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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 11:14:08 -0300
From: Nick Robinson <nick@tritec.demon.co.uk>
Subject: ori compos

Hi all,

>      They also plan to have a large exhibition of modular origami, which
>      will be judged and prizes awarded. The items do not need to be
>      original creations.

What a shame. I would have hoped the Japanese would take a lead in the
"keep commercial interests out of folding".  I can accept a competition for
new creations, but prizes just for neat folding seems a bit weak.

Competitions do encourage creativity, but I feel are a big deterrent for
budding folders who might feel "well, my work simply isn't up to it" if they
don't win.

The BOS used to have compos at conventions, but good sense prevailed & we
ceased.

Feel free to disagree with me!

Nick Robinson

            ***** "Origami isn't just for squares!" *****
          www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/Origami/BOS/nickdata.html





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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 11:18:42 -0300
From: wdawes@cs.nmsu.EDU ("Iron Will" Dawes)
Subject: Enterprise

  Much like Sharon (or her husband, anyway), I am a Trekkie and would
LOVE folding instructions (or, at least, information on where I could
obtain them) on the Starship Enterprise. Is it the Enterprise from the
original series, right (not the movies or the new Star Trek shows)?
                              -Will
P.S. I missed some of the conversation and I'm not sure if this is
what was being asked for, but I seem to recall someone asking for a
gif on Kawasaki's rose model. Joseph Wu, who has an outstanding
origami page, has a gif and a full-size jpeg at the following URL:

http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/gallery.html





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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 11:20:51 -0300
From: Jennifer.Campbell@cciw.ca (Jennifer Campbell)
Subject: non-modular business card folds

Hi everyone,

Ever since Jeannine Moseley's posts a while back about the business card
modulars I've been "doodling" with business cards. My boss was thrilled
with his namesake polyhedrons.

But then I started to let my mind go freeform (I'm normally way too linear
and rigid--you should see my garden!) and for the second time in my origami
life I created something worth keeping. I made a little frog, similar to
the "traditional" frog (the one in the introductory books right after the
crane). The angles and technique are different because of the rectangle.
It's kind of cute but if you try to "jump" it, it does a somersault (being
a former gymnast I found that hilarious).

So this minor triumph got me thinking: is there a body of established
business card models out there, like there is for bill folds? Does anyone
else do this sort of thing?

P.S. all those vocation responses, was anyone tallying them?

       /\_/\       ________
     `(     )' oo /        \
       `==='     | Maguro o |
       /   \     |  kudasai |
      |     |     \________/
      |     |
    ___\___/__jennifer.campbell@cciw.ca





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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 11:23:12 -0300
From: Douglas Zander <dzander@solaria.sol.net>
Subject: Star Trek Enterprise model?

  Hello all,
    I am also interested in the Enterprise model.  I read that the person
    who made this was going to diagram the model (I'm sorry I forget his
    name)  Has he finished?  Are the diagrams available?  Anxiously waiting.

--
 Douglas Zander          | editor of GAMES Player's Zine (GPZ)
 dzander@solaria.sol.net | an ezine for subscribers of GAMES Magazine (tm)





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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 11:25:40 -0300
From: CM2018@aol.com
Subject: Re: new Vocation location

YES! ME TOO PLEASE





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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 11:27:25 -0300
From: Luisa Urgias <urgias@tsmix1.sissa.it>
Subject: Star Trek Enterprise

> If you have the instructions to build the Star Trek ships I'd Iove to get
> hold of it.
> I live in Australia so I'm not sure how you could tell me, but I do have
> access the internet. But my husband is a mad Star Trekkie and would love the
> models, anyway
> here is my email address:
> SWayland@cocam.com.au
>
I have two friends "mad Star Trekkie" too: does someone know if there
are diagrams available?

Thank you,

        Luisa





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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 12:44:39 -0300
From: Joseph Wu <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Re: Star Trek Enterprise model?

On Fri, 21 Jul 1995, Douglas Zander wrote:

>     I am also interested in the Enterprise model.  I read that the person
>     who made this was going to diagram the model (I'm sorry I forget his
>     name)  Has he finished?  Are the diagrams available?  Anxiously waiting.

The Enterprise model is of the original series Enterprise ("no bloody A, no
bloody B, no bloody C, no bloody D", as Scotty put it). A very nice model,
best folded out of foil. It was designed by Jeremy Shafer who is away from
the 'Net this summer. He has finished diagramming it. I have a set of the
diagrams, but since I have no permission from him to duplicate them, I will
*NOT* be making copies available. Please do not send any requests to me!
Jeremy should be back online in September: try him then. Or, you can
subscribe to the BARF newsletter (he's the editor) in which the diagrams
have been published. Write to him at:

BARF Newsletter
c/o Jeremy Shafer
1744 Virginia Street
Berkeley, CA  94703

Joseph Wu      <jwu@cs.ubc.ca> | Witty quote is now back to the
Master's Student               |   drawing board due to squeamish
University of British Columbia |   readers. Any suggestions?
WWW: http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html (Origami Page)





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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 12:45:51 -0300
From: Richard Kennedy <KENNEDRA@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: non-modular business card folds

Jennifer

There is a school of Paris metro ticket folding. The tickets are of light
card, 60 mm x 33 mm (I think). There's an example (modular I'm afraid) in
Kenneway's "Complete Origami" - a palm tree. A booklet has been published
by MFPP - there are various one ticket birds and animals.

Regards,

Richard K.





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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 15:32:26 -0300
From: mdc@ivc.ivc.com (Michael Clark)
Subject: Bookmark folds?

Does anyone have any suggestions for folds which would be suitable for use
as a bookmark?  I guess I mean a model with the right aspect ratio (tall &
skinny). My wife's parents brought a couple of nice bookmarks to us from
japan which aren't exactly origami (I'm sure it some kinda mumble-gami). It
is a simple model of a woman which has been glued together. It makes a nice
bookmark and it got me thinking....

Regards,

<<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>><<<<<>>>>>

Michael Clark                        <> Good breeding consists of concealing
how
Intelligent Visual Computing         <> much we think of ourselves and how
little
2205 Candun Drive, Suite C           <> we think of the other person.
Apex, North Carolina  27502          <>
919.363.0292                         <>                         Mark Twain
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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 15:53:23 -0300
From: wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu ("Iron Will" Dawes)
Subject: Re: Bookmark folds?

Michael-
  Although I've never seen any traditional bookmark-shaped folds, both
of Francis Ow's books on hearts contain heart designs made to fit on
the corner of a page. Also, the current OUSA catalogue advertises a
series of folding letterheads, if you don't mind having dog-eared
pages in your books.
                              -Will





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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 16:17:49 -0300
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <contract@pipeline.com>
Subject: Bookmark folds?

On Fri, 21 Jul 1995 mdc@ivc.ivc.com (Michael Clark) said:

>Does anyone have any suggestions for folds which would be suitable for use
as a
>bookmark?  I guess I mean a model with the right aspect ratio (tall &
skinny).

I saw a nice model of a pencil in a recent NOA magazine; I thought that it
would make a nice bookmark. I also came up with a decent one of my own. If
there seems to be interest in this sort of a thing, I might draw up some
nice diagrams for it.

Marc





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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 16:34:06 -0300
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: GIF of Kawasaki Rose Query

<<I'm not sure if this is
what was being asked for, but I seem to recall someone asking for a
gif on Kawasaki's rose model. >>

The discussion was about a diagram I did of Kawasaki's ROSE TESSELLATION (or
"Crystallization", as it's called), not the stand-alone, realistic,
Kawasaki ROSE, which is diagrammed in "Origami for the Connoisseur"
and illustrated on Joseph Wu's Home Page.

The Rose Tessellation appears in a photo in Jackson's Encylopedia
of Origami & Paper Craft (not sure of exact title; we all are generally
referring to it as "Jackson's Encyclopedia").

A number of us have played with and/or reverse engineered some of
the origami models in Jackson, including the Enigma Cube, and I had
been discussing the tessellations in Jackson with Tom Hull. The
diagram referred to in the immediate discussion was one I posted in
the mail list archives (1 sheet PS file) after reverse engineering
the Rose Crystallization (tessellation) in Jackson, which is a
3D tessellation by Kawasaki. It looks like a 4x4 array of little
roses, each of which is formed similar to the center of the more
famous Kawasaki Rose (now I gather referred to as "Kawasaki Rose I" - ??).

Anyway, my diagram was intended for those who were familiar with the
photo in Jackson and the idea of tessellations or "twist folding"
in general, and wanted to try a possible solution for the
Rose Crystallization.

So I was informing the person who inquired that I don't have a GIF
but was relying on access to Jackson's book. My diagram is pretty
minimal, only a fold map plus some brief hints on pre-creasing etc.
I will try to add another page with sketch of finished product and
more complete instructions when I get more time.

By the way, there is an earlier diagram by someone else (sorry, I
forget the name and can't look it up right now) in the archives too.
But I think mine is closer to the original, especially since it
duplicates the center folds of the regular Kawasaki Rose.

Valerie Vann
Compuserve: 75070,304  or Internet:75070.304@compuserve.com
                                Or: valerivann@aol.com





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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 16:44:18 -0300
From: Jae Hyuk Lee <jaelee@WPI.EDU>
Subject: Re: Star Trek Enterprise model?

> Jeremy should be back online in September: try him then. Or, you can
> subscribe to the BARF newsletter (he's the editor) in which the diagrams

BARF = Bay Area Rapid/Real/etc Folders?

Is there an annual membership fee or a backissue fee for this newsletter?





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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 16:44:59 -0300
From: Emma Craib <EMC94001@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Subject: free cool stuff

All the talk of transparent folding material brought to mind a local resource
in Spencer MA that is heavily used by teachers, troop leaders and grown-ups in
general as a source of a contact paper like material.  It is free, it is all
sizes fome small sheets to 5 foot rolls, and best of all, the peel away backer
materials are papers or mylars of all different weights.  I know folks travel
from far away to go there ( Virginia!).  You can take tons as it will be land
filled if not recycled into art, storm windows, wall paper, etc.  Contact me
for clearer description or get a recording on directions to it by calling
FLEX-CON, Spencer, MA.  Great stuff for GIANT origami.  Free,too!    Emma





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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 17:16:33 -0300
From: Nick Robinson <nick@tritec.demon.co.uk>
Subject: 4D folding

Nah, you've lost me!!!! 3D I can just about cope with.

Don't forget to check out the BOS page in GB for details of the next convention
in York; http://sonja.acad.cai.cam.ac.uk/alex.htm

Next Autumn will be in my home town of Sheffield - I hope some of you will make
it over here - there's floorspace if you need it!

Nick Robinson

            ***** "Origami isn't just for squares!" *****
          www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/Origami/BOS/nickdata.html





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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 17:32:12 -0300
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: free cool stuff

   All the talk of transparent folding material brought to mind a local resource
   in Spencer MA that is heavily used by teachers, troop leaders and grown-ups
     in
   general as a source of a contact paper like material.  It is free, it is all
   sizes fome small sheets to 5 foot rolls, and best of all, the peel away
     backer
   materials are papers or mylars of all different weights.  I know folks travel
   from far away to go there ( Virginia!).  You can take tons as it will be land
   filled if not recycled into art, storm windows, wall paper, etc.  Contact me
   for clearer description or get a recording on directions to it by calling
   FLEX-CON, Spencer, MA.  Great stuff for GIANT origami.  Free,too!    Emma

Directory assistance tells me that Spencer is in area code 508.  When
I dial 1-508-FLEX-CON, I get a recording telling me that my call
cannot be completed as dialed.  Help!

        -- jeannine (j9@concentra.com)





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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 17:53:48 -0300
From: Eric Tend <eric@hpisdaja.ptp.hp.com>
Subject: Re: Star Trek Enterprise model?

On July 21 Jae Hyuk Lee wrote:

> Is there an annual membership fee or a backissue fee for this newsletter?

Yes there is an annual fee and yes you can order back issues directly from
Jeremy ... but you are going to have to wait until he gets back from summer
camp.

--Eric--

==============================================================================
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      __/         __/        |                       -- Jack Burton
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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 18:50:12 -0300
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: free cool stuff

Excuse my earlier stupidity! FLEX-CON looked like one of those phone
numbers you dial.  For those who are interested, I have got their





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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 18:51:07 -0300
From: Cynthia.Pettit@virtus.com (Cynthia Pettit)
Subject: Re: Enterprize

As Joseph said, this model was made by Jereme Shafer.  The diagrams were
published in the BARF newsletter for summer 1995.  [I don't see an issue
number on here, but the date should be enough.]  The issues are $5 apiece,
if I'm not mistaken, and it's $15 to join [$20 outside the US.]  I went
ahead and joined since it appears there's occasional good models, plus
you're supporting origami, right! :)

At first, I was kinda miffed that Jereme would only "sell" the issues from
his club if you wanted diagrams -- it seemed a little too like for-profit.
But as I thought about it, he seems like a very busy guy, plus, he's still
young enough that he's living with his parents [he's heading to college
this coming semester, though] and therefore also has little money.
"Selling" issues is certainly the easiest for him, time- and money-wise.
[Also note that he *tried* to have photocopies made for the class at the
convention, but spent $20 getting very bad reproductions made and had to
throw them away...]

I also want to take this posting to say how much I appreciate his sending
the Enterprize issues out to those of us who "bought" them.  He sent them
out during the *11* hours he had at home after the convention before he
left again to teach summer camp!  I also noticed that the addresses were
*hand-written*!  Quite a dedicated young man!  Thank you Jeremy!

So here's the address again:

>BARF Newsletter
>c/o Jeremy Shafer
>1744 Virginia Street
>Berkeley, CA  94703

Cyn "someday gonna post my experiences on the convention! :) " Pettit

PS For those who care, note the new address:

Cynthia.Pettit@virtus.com        "It's not about driving down route
Virtus Corporation                66 and stopping at the Holiday Inn...
http://www.virtus.com             ...It's about *adventure*!"
(v) 919 467-9700 x27                     -- Richard Feynman





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Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 15:39:32 -0300
From: Nick Robinson <nick@tritec.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: Bookmark folds?

>   Although I've never seen any traditional bookmark-shaped folds

Surely you jest? There are lots of them. Here's two of mine (I have lots). They
appeal to me because of their simple function - you basically need a pocket & a
sequence. The Jumping Jack of mine that was in one of Gay Gross' wonderful books
started life as a bookmark! If you want more, let me know! They are so simple
that loads of people will probably have created them already, but who cares?

                    oOo BOOKMARK by Nick Robinson oOo

1) Start with a square, fold in half both ways & open out.
2) Fold all four corners to the middle, open two adjacent ones out.
3) Turn the paper so it resembles a house. Fold one wall to the other.
4) You have half a house with a crease marking the bottom of the roof.
   Fold the roof down using that crease, leaving a square/two triangles.
5) Using the creases made in step 2, tuck the thin triangle inside the
   thick one. It should go all the way inside.

Finished! Use the same pocket to slide onto the page of your book.

                *** Bookmark #2 ***

Start with a rectangle, A4 is ideal.

1) Fold a short edge to meet a long edge.
2) Fold the sharp corner back down the folded edge, folding the triangular
section in half.
3) Fold both original corners to meet the lower edge of the triangular flap.
4) Fold the triangle over on its lower edge, crease firmly & unfold.
5) Now fold the flap with the two small triangles into the UPPER pocket of
the large triangular flap - it should tuck inside completely.

Finished!!!!??

Nick Robinson

            ***** "Origami is in creasing" *****
          www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/Origami/BOS/nickdata.html





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Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 15:41:43 -0300
From: Nick Robinson <nick@tritec.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Kawasaki Rose Query

When Kawasaki came to the Brummy convention, he broght a set of about 16 roses
from a single square, the model being about 4" across! Apparently, he "draws"
precreases using a knife (carefully, I'd imagine!)

Nick Robinson

            ***** "Origami isn't just for squares!" *****
          www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/Origami/BOS/nickdata.html





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Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 15:42:14 -0300
From: Nick Robinson <nick@tritec.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: non-modular business card folds

> So this minor triumph got me thinking: is there a body of established
> business card models out there, like there is for bill folds? Does anyone
> else do this sort of thing?

Very probably - I "do it" with bus/tram tickets. The French mob released a book
of metro folds...

Nick Robinson

            ***** "Origami isn't just for squares!" *****
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Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 18:51:59 -0300
From: billhall@computek.net (Bill Hall)
Subject: Re: Bookmark folds?

>Does anyone have any suggestions for folds which would be suitable for use
>as a bookmark?

Somewhere I have the instructions for making an origami bookmark that is
basically a triangle that has a pocket. It slips over the corner of the
page. I can't remember how it was made exactly, but I just experimented, and
came up with a way to do it. It's so simple, I can (perhaps) describe it in
words. Fold a preliminary fold (I think that's what it's called - the fold
you fold _before_ a bird base. Fold paper on both diagonals and then in half
the other way, and then make it into a diamond with all four corners of the
paper at one end and the center of the paper at the other end. If it comes
out into a triangle, flip it inside-out). Hold with the open end down. Fold
the upper layer of paper in half so the corner meets the top, which was the
center of the original paper. Turn over and repeat. Fold the top layer in
half from left to right. Flip over the paper left-to-rignt and repeat. Now
you have two more corners. Underneath you have two pockets. Fold both of the
remaining corners into one of the pockets. Now you have a triangle that will
fit over the corner of a page.

Well, I'm glad it's not me trying to make it from _those_ instructions. At
least I tried!

=================================================
 Clarinet -- Medieval instrument of torture. The only thing
worse than a clarinet is _two_ clarinets.  -- Ambrose Bierce

Bill Hall                    billhall@computek.net                     Dallas





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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 00:00:28 -0300
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: Re: Bookmark folds?

Bill -

(and others interested)

The bookmark that you are thinking of is from "The Flapping Bird" - I don't
know if it a Randlett model (the book is).

Dee





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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 01:56:06 -0300
From: billhall@computek.net (Bill Hall)
Subject: Re: Bookmark folds?

>Bill -
>
>(and others interested)
>
>The bookmark that you are thinking of is from "The Flapping Bird" - I don't
>know if it a Randlett model (the book is).
>
>Dee

You're right, page 86 in "The Flapping Bird." The model is by Jessie Seto.
It's much simpler than mine :-)    Let me try to describe it.

Fold three corners of a piece of paper to the center. This would form a
diamond shape except for the unfolded corner. Fold the diamond in half along
a line from one of its points to where the opposite point would be except
for the unfolded corner. This will form a triangle with the unfolded corner
sticking out of one of the shorter sides. Fold the triangle in half along a
line from the center of the long side to the opposite point. You now have a
smaller triangle that is the size of the unfolded corner. It has a pocket in
it. Fold the unfolded corner into the pocket.

Let me know if anyone can actually make this thing from my poor description.

=================================================
 Clarinet -- Medieval instrument of torture. The only thing
worse than a clarinet is _two_ clarinets.  -- Ambrose Bierce

Bill Hall                    billhall@computek.net                     Dallas





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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 02:29:11 -0300
From: Shai Seger <SHAIS@evs.elbit.co.IL>
Subject: RE: new Vocation location

>If you have the instructions to build the Star Trek ships l'd love to
get
>hold of it.

Me too!

> But my husband is a mad Star Trekkie and would love the

Me too!!!!!

shai
shais@evs.elbit.co.il





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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 15:29:18 -0300
From: marmonk@eskimo.com (Mark Morden)
Subject: Paper for the cuckoo clock

I am looking for suggestions or information about what types of big papers
are available. I finished Robert Lang's cuckoo clock, but I don't like the
paper I had to use to fold it.  The only paper I could find large enough
(10"x70") was a foil coated paper.  It doesn't look that great and the foil
has a tendency to flake off if the crease is re-folded too many times.

Does anybody have ideas about what would be a good paper for this model.
Ideally it would be a thin, long-fibered paper with an interesting pattern.
Unfortunately, I haven't found any paper like that longer than about 36".

Thanks for the responses.

Mark Morden == marmonk@mail.eskimo.com
--------------------------------------------------------
I believe in Christianity as I belive in the rising sun;
not because I see it but by it I see all else.
                                           C.S. Lewis





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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 15:31:41 -0300
From: LEMIEUXJ@aspen.uml.edu
Subject: Bookmark folds

 From Bill Hall regarding bookmark fold, 23 Jul 1995:

 > Let me know if anyone can actually make this thing from my poor description.

I had no trouble following your description...

After a week of trying to communicate in English to French speaking
relatives in Quebec, Canada - your directions were easy to understand.

Bob
J. Robert A. Lemieux
lemieuxj@woods.uml.edu





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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 16:13:06 -0300
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: Origami Ants, Tessaracts, and Vocation

>>>>
..the explanation in the book [A Wrinkle in Time],
("imagine an ant walking from one point to another along the hem of a
dress...") sounds suspiciously like the proof Tom Hull used in his
lecture at the convention for some formulas related to flat origamis
("imagine an ant walking back and forth along the pleats of a flat
origami...")
<<<<

Boy, that ant sure gets around. I've used an ant (sometimes accompanied by a
burrowing bookworm) in explanations of the tree theory of origami design! <g>

Robert

P.S. For a fun discussion of tesseract architecture, I favor the Heinlein
shorty "And He Built a Crooked House".

P.P.S. In answer to the long-ago vocation query, I'm a physicist/engineer at
SDL, Inc., working on theoretical modeling and design of semiconductor
lasers.





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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 16:14:52 -0300
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Kawasaki Rose Query

>>Nick Robinson wrote:
   When Kawasaki came to the Brummy convention, he broght a set of about 16
roses
    from a single square, the model being about 4" across! Apparently, he
"draws"
    precreases using a knife (carefully, I'd imagine!)<<

Nick, you're talking about the Kawasaki ROSE CRYSTALLIZATION (tessellation)
that's been under discussion here for the last few weeks, except I imagine the
one you saw may have been the 2nd incarnation, which Tom Hull mentioned to me a
while back. I think Tom said it's folded slightly differently than the the first
one (the one pictured with the twist/folds/tessellations in Jackson's
Encyclopedia).

About a week ago I put a one page PS file in the List archive ROSETESS.PS. It's
a fold map with some basic precreasing directions etc. and presumes you know
what the end results looks like and/or have access to Jackson's encyclopedia.
This was reverse-engineered from the Jackson photo and experience with the
regular single Kawasaki Rose model. The archive also has another older fold map
of the crystallization, but I think mine is closer to the mark.

It does in fact look like a 4x4 array of 16 little Kawasaki Roses, and is made
from a single sheet. If you
start with an 8-9inch square you will end up with about a 4in square model.

Could you further elucidate the idea of "drawing precreases with a knife?

Tom: Can you shed any light on this?

--valerie
Compuserve: Valerie Vann 75070,304
Internet: 75070.304@compuserve.com
Internet: valerivann@aol.com





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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 16:14:22 -0300
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: Robert Lang's Musicians

> I recently completed RL's musicians from "The Complete Book of Origami."
> Anyone who would like to tackle these designs and fold the trio, here are
> paper sizes that will result in each of the musicians being about the same
> size.

Just a note: if you make the long side of the Violinist rectangle equal to
the short sides of the Bassist and Pianist rectangles, all three musicians
will be exactly the same size.

Incidentally, Origami in Action (in progress) will contain further action
musicians -- a guitarist and bassist -- both from squares.

Robert





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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 16:14:02 -0300
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: Molecular modeling

>  I'm a chemistry student at Fairfield University, CT, USA. I'm
> doing molecular modeling like Mark Casida.

As I've mentioned here before, I've done some work on computer design of
origami bases. One of the algorithms that is extremely powerful treats each
point as a circle and packs the circles into a square (along with some other
constraints). I would think that this algorithm would be similar to a
molecular modeling on a 2-D surface using hard-sphere models of the atoms,
and thus, there may be some spiffy numerical algorithms/tools for finding
optimum (lowest-energy) configurations. Does this ring any bells to you
modeling folks?

Robert





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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 16:15:41 -0300
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: RE: Vocation location & SUBJECTs

I don't want to be a party-pooper y'all, but could y'all maybe pretty please:

Direct email plain "thank yous" and "me toos" to the appropriate party rather
than the List?

AND/OR:

Change your reply SUBJECT to reflect the actual subject?

Some of us have to pay for email and appreciate SUBJECT headings that enable us
to identify
messages we can delete unread (we don't get charged for unopened/unread mail...)

Much appreciated....
(and yes I know I can get lists "digested" but its nicer the regular way...)

--valerie
Compuserve: Valerie Vann 75070,304
Internet: 75070.304@compuserve.com
Internet: valerivann@aol.com





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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 16:51:20 -0300
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: Paper for the cuckoo clock

> I am looking for suggestions or information about what types of big papers
> are available. I finished Robert Lang's cuckoo clock

I use thin foil wrapping paper for this, cut to 4x28". The stuff you find at
Hallmark stores works quite well. You can also tape together larger sheets of
other types of paper if you locate the joints at places that will be hidden
inside the model. (The best way to find such places is, fold a small one,
spray-paint the entire model, then unfold it and see where the un-colored
regions are.)

Robert





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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 16:53:02 -0300
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Kawahata's NEW dinosaur book

Hi all,

I just got a copy of Fumiaki Kawahata's NEW dinosaur book, "Origami Fantasy,"
and I gotta tell ya, it's one of the best books to come along in years. This
is the no-holds-barred, hard-core finger-numbing tendon-popping
complex-folding real thing. Front and back covers show wet-folded versions of
a T. Rex (with teeth, claws, and toes) and a Stegosaurus, respectively. Color
plates inside the front show all of the other models, beautifully wet-folded.
Contents are:

Protoceratops
Apatosaurus
Pteranodon
Triceratops
Tyrannosaurus
Allosaurus
Parasauralophus
Corythosaurus
Lambeosaurus
Maiasaurus
Archeopteryx
Styracosaurus
Dimetrodon
Tuojiangosaurus
Ankylosaurus
Stegosaurus
Unicorn
Pegasus

Obviously, there are a few things other than dinosaurs (therapsids, mythical
beings) but it's mostly dinos and they are all STUNNING, if not for the faint
of heart. There are more spikes, plates, teeth, horns, claws, and toes than
you can shake a stick at, and many of the models run well over 100 steps. All
models are folded from one uncut square. The diagrams are clear and sharp but
the verbal instructions are in Japanese. Occasionally an English word is
thrown in ("Open Sink") for the benefit of his foreign readers. I've folded
several of the models and have found no problems. The last few pages describe
Kawahata's design approach, some of which he displayed at the Origami Science
meeting. Of course, it's all in Japanese as well, but you can get the basic
idea from the diagrams, pictures, and mathematical formulas.

If you loved Viva Origami and drooled over Top Origami, you'll go positively
ga-ga over Fantasy Origami. Hopefully, OUSA will stock this in Supplies.
(Unfortunately, I can't read the publisher (it's in Japanese) but it's got
the Gallery Origami House logo on the front, so it may be published by Makoto
Yamaguchi.)

Cheers,

Robert





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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 17:16:54 -0300
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: Molecular modeling

Hello,

I just want to give a quick response to Robert's question.  This involves
a touch of high-level chemistry and physics, but I'll try to keep it at a
popular level.  However feel free to disregard this message if you dislike
the technical flavor.

Here is what I imagine most people in the area would try first.
I think I would address the packing problem by first softening the hard-sphere
potentials and then doing Metropolis Monte-Carlo to find the optimum energy
configuration.  In layman's (?) terms, that means that I would let the
sphere's feel each other when they are near (i.e. before they touch).  Then
I would play a sort of gambling game, in which I move the spheres around
according to some rule related to "temperature" until I found the packing
which minimized their collective energy.

A related method which I would _not_ use is to slowly cool a hot gas of
spheres to see how it crystalized.  This doesn't always give closest
packing and should be especially bad in 2 dimensions where spheres cannot
move through each other.  The result is something like shaking up oranges
in a crate --- despite popular opinion, this does not usually give the
most efficient packing arrangement.

OK, no more chemical physics for now.  But Robert, won't you tell us what
closest packed circles have to do with origami bases?

                                    ... Mark

P.S. I bet these circles aren't all the same size, are they?

>
> >  I'm a chemistry student at Fairfield University, CT, USA. I'm
> > doing molecular modeling like Mark Casida.
>
> As I've mentioned here before, I've done some work on computer design of
> origami bases. One of the algorithms that is extremely powerful treats each
> point as a circle and packs the circles into a square (along with some other
> constraints). I would think that this algorithm would be similar to a
> molecular modeling on a 2-D surface using hard-sphere models of the atoms,
> and thus, there may be some spiffy numerical algorithms/tools for finding
> optimum (lowest-energy) configurations. Does this ring any bells to you
> modeling folks?
>
> Robert
>

--
*-------------------------------------------------------*
|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|          e-mail: casida@chimcn.umontreal.ca           |





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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 20:35:26 -0300
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Kawahata's NEW dinosaur book

Robert,
Can you give us the ISBN number on this book? It's the surest way to
Id both book and publisher. Should be on the Cover or copyright page
somewhere.
--valerie





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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 21:11:49 -0300
From: ACPQUINN@myriad.middlebury.edu
Subject: Rose Crystalization

Ok, ok... I finished the rose crystalization as diagrammed in ROSETESS.PS.
If I squeeze it together, it looks approximately the same as the one in the
book... however, there is no easy way to keep it together... Is there a locking
step for this model, either on the bottom or around the edges?  It would be
possible to fold in certain corners, but that will not effectively lock the
entire model... There must be such an extra step, or Kawasaki could not have
finished those tesselations in the book...or else he wet-folded them...>shrug<
-Alasdair
acpquinn@myriad.middlebury.edu





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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 1995 21:22:33 -0300
From: billhall@computek.net (Bill Hall)
Subject: Re: Bookmark folds

>
> From Bill Hall regarding bookmark fold, 23 Jul 1995:
>
> > Let me know if anyone can actually make this thing from my poor description.
>
>I had no trouble following your description...
>
>After a week of trying to communicate in English to French speaking
>relatives in Quebec, Canada - your directions were easy to understand.
>
>Bob
>J. Robert A. Lemieux
>lemieuxj@woods.uml.edu

:-)

=================================================
 Clarinet -- Medieval instrument of torture. The only thing
worse than a clarinet is _two_ clarinets.  -- Ambrose Bierce

Bill Hall                    billhall@computek.net                     Dallas





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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 00:36:10 -0300
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: Re:  Paper for the cuckoo clock

Marmonk --

I've only tried the Cuckoo Clock once and gave up because the paper I was
using was too brittle (I found a really old roll of teletype paper - it was WAY
to brittle). I was wondering if anyone has used Fadeless Art Paper. I found a
school/carnival supply house (don't ask me why they are lumped together) and
they sell it on rolls that are about 2' wide and maybe 12- 15 feet long. I
haven't had the time to devote to the project though, so I don't know if it
will hold up to the strain!

Dee





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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 00:41:09 -0300
From: Jae Hyuk Lee <jaelee@WPI.EDU>
Subject: Re: Vocation location & SUBJECTs

> Change your reply SUBJECT to reflect the actual subject?

I found this out from another mailing list when I made a suggestion like
yours;  some internet users (e.g. Delphi) *cannot* change the subject
because of the way the software is set up.

If I could add one more suggestion...  please read through all your e-mail
before answering a question or making a request.  More often than not,
someone else has already done it for you.





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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 06:28:41 -0300
From: "Mr B.R. Stephens" <bruce@liverpool.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: GIF of Kawasaki Rose Query

> By the way, there is an earlier diagram by someone else (sorry, I
> forget the name and can't look it up right now) in the archives too.
> But I think mine is closer to the original, especially since it
> duplicates the center folds of the regular Kawasaki Rose.

That would be me.  Yours is certainly better explained than mine (and
probably lacks the error in dimensions that mine has!).  I haven't yet
managed to make yours, so I can't really comment on how it works!

> Valerie Vann
> Compuserve: 75070,304  or Internet:75070.304@compuserve.com
>                                 Or: valerivann@aol.com

--
Bruce                   Institute of Advanced Scientific Computation
bruce@liverpool.ac.uk   University of Liverpool





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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 08:26:27 -0300
From: PamGotcher@aol.com
Subject: Vocation  Compilation

Well, if all the messages made it to me on the AOL connection (sometimes AOL
drops them) and if I picked up all the ones in the middle of other messages,
the compilation is as follows:
1 advertising person (who has since changed jobs)
1 analog IC designer
2 architects (one consulting)
2 biologists (one working as a training materials producer)
1 children's book editor, author and musician
8 computer programmers
7 software engineers
1 data management specialist
1 systems analyst
1 Info Systems Major
1 Info Systems Management Specialist
1 programmer/system administrator
1 development engineer
1 domestic engineer extraordinaire
1 electrical engineer
1 exotic dancer and photographer
1 geographic-geomorphologic-hydrolic-civil-engineering technician
1 geometrix
2 graphic designers
1 human resource specialist
1 job search specialist for the computer field
2 librarians, and;
3 technical services librarians
1 mortgage banker's VP (about to change jobs)
1 pediatrician
1 physicist/engineer
1 professional musician
1 publications specialist
1 radio producer
1 recent college graduate about to be med student
1 restorer of aircraft and spacecraft for the Smithsonian
1 statistical/computer tester proofer
4 students at the college and graduate level
1 8th grader
5 teachers including a University lecturer
1 theoretical chemist
1 technical analyst
1 faculty computer trainer

If I missed you or if I didn't get quite the right spin on your position, I
apologise.  It's been fun to "get to know" you all.
Pam





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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 10:20:01 -0300
From: sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV (Shi-Yew Chen \(a.k.a. Sy\))
Subject: Re: Kawahata's NEW dinosaur book

>Robert,
>Can you give us the ISBN number on this book? It's the surest way to
>Id both book and publisher. Should be on the Cover or copyright page
>somewhere.
>--valerie
>
>

Me too!
Shi-Yew Chen (Sy)
E-Mail - sychen@enh.nist.gov
WWW URL - http://www.iia.org/~chens/syhome.htm





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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:48:13 -0300
From: Lillian Sun <Lillian_Sun@mail.amsinc.com>
Subject: Re: Paper for the cuckoo clock

          To get BIG paper.... try one of those school-supply stores
          that cater to teachers.  There are these HUGE rolls of
          colored paper that teachers use to cover bulltin boards
          with.  They are at least 36" wide, and as long as you want
          (practically!).  Or else, go raid a school!

          Good luck,
          Lillian  :)





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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:50:58 -0300
From: Grace.Chiu@Cognos.COM (Chiu, Grace)
Subject: RE: Kawasaki Rose Query

Nick wrote:
>When Kawasaki came to the Brummy convention, he broght a set of about 16
>roses from a single square, the model being about 4" across! Apparently, he
>"draws" precreases using a knife (carefully, I'd imagine!)

"Brummy" convention?

And Valerie wrote:
>It's a fold map with some basic precreasing directions etc. and presumes
you
>know what the end results looks like and/or have access to Jackson's
>encyclopedia.

Okay.  I have given up on finding this Jackson's encyclopedia up here.
Do any Montreal or Toronto people know where to find it?

And this mangled tesselation still sits here on my desk...

I have a photo of the single (not a tesselation) Kawasaki rose on the back
cover of the Spanish book "Papiroflexia Basica" by Vincent V. The book
doesn't have the instructions to fold the roses, however.  :^(

So, other than "Origami for the Connoisseur"* which is
out-of-print/permanently-
backordered, are there instructions for the single Kawasaki rose elsewhere?
I tried interpolating the rose tesselation and ended up with a four-leafed
clover (sink-folded the little tesseled square & mtn-folded the corners).
 %^P

* I nearly had it, but I lost out on the auction by $3 at Convention.  :^(

Grace
 ---
Grace Chiu, Enslavened Manager, Technology Support Services,
Cognos Inc.: Rubberneckers on the Information Super-Dirt Road
Ottawa, ON 1-800-365-3968, ext. 3218.
Grace.Chiu@Cognos.COM or chiug@cognos.com





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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:51:44 -0300
From: Beck Twachtman Hutchinson <HUTCHIB@mail.firn.edu>
Subject: RE: vocation

Would you happen to know of any origami groups that are meeting in Colombia
or Venezuela or Nicaragua? Thank you, Beck





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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:51:18 -0300
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: Origami Ants, Tessaracts, Flies and Stellation

   From: Rjlang@aol.com
   X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas

   >>>>
   ..the explanation in the book [A Wrinkle in Time],
   ("imagine an ant walking from one point to another along the hem of a
   dress...") sounds suspiciously like the proof Tom Hull used in his
   lecture at the convention for some formulas related to flat origamis
   ("imagine an ant walking back and forth along the pleats of a flat
   origami...")
   <<<<

   Boy, that ant sure gets around. I've used an ant (sometimes accompanied by a
   burrowing bookworm) in explanations of the tree theory of origami design! <g>

   Robert

The use of insects crawling on mathematical surfaces (folded or
otherwise) has a long tradition.  H.S.M. Coxeter, in his classic
monograph "The Fifty-Nine Icosahedra" refers to a fly crawling on the
surface of a stellation, requiring that it be able to reach all
portions of the surface (without burrowing).  I think he wrote this is
the 20's, but I'm not sure.  (You still have my copy, Tom.)

        -- jeannine





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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:52:47 -0300
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Vocation location & SUBJECTs

>>some internet users (e.g. Delphi) *cannot* change the subject
because of the way the software is set up.<<

Well I suppose the answer to THAT is, if you're pretty well off the subject,
don't just REPLY, mail a NEW message with a new more appropriate subject
to the list...

On compuserve, you almost have to do that anyway, as the the address is
autoset to the original mailer, and you have to make sure to put in the
list address when replying

Oh, well...
Ain't technology wonderful?

--valerie





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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:52:14 -0300
From: vann@tredgar.cardiff.com (VAnn Cornelius)
Subject: footballs

Someone has asked for a football.

The need is for it to be delivered flat or partially folded
as in an envelop but easy for the receiver of the envelop to
understand and convert into the said football.

a 3-d standard issue football.

Has anyone done this?

V'Ann
vann@cardiff.com





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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:53:22 -0300
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Rose Crystalization

"locking the rose crystalization"

I make them out of heavy colored 8.5x8.5 copy paper about 30lb I think.
With manipulation it softens (damp folding??) so makes good regular
K.Roses too. And the Crys. stays collapsed quite well then after you
sharpen up all the final creases. But as I told someone else, if you
make a classic origami box (the 2x2x1 unit one with all the corners of the
paper meeting inside the bottom) of the same size square as you use for
the Crys., the Crys. will fit inside tightly collapsed. Maybe Kawasaki does
wet fold his! (Tom Hull might know)

--valerie





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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:53:56 -0300
From: "Lisa, Hodsdon" <LISAHAB@vax3.hmco.com>
Subject: Ligia Montoya

Jay Ansill talks about Ligia Montoya and her original form of origami
in _Lifestyle Origami_ . I haven't heard anything about her anywhere
else. Can anyone tell me more information about her and/or her work?

Thanks.

Lisa Hodsdon
Lisa_Hodsdon@hmco.com      or      lisahab@vax3.hmco.com





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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:54:54 -0300
From: A004773%LBVM1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com
Subject: A4 format

 >           An easy method using 8.5" X 11" paper, as used in the U.S. of A.,
 >   was posted to this mailing list not too long ago.  I don't remember who
 >   wrote the message, but (s)he said that cutting a 0.75" X 11" strip off of
 >   the 8.5" X 11" paper left you with a 7.5" X 11" sheet of paper, which is
 >   roughly the dimensions of an A4 sheet.  I've tried this and it works
 >   pretty well.
 >           Hope this helps...
 >   -Kevin

    I took Kevin's method a bit further, eliminating the need for a ruler,
  thanks to some ideas from John Wiggins, a friend at work.

   1. Label an 8.5 by 11 inch sheet, naming the upper left corner A,
      the upper right corner B, with side AB being 8.5 inches, the lower
      right corner C, with side BC being 11 inches, and the lower left
      corner D.

   2. Fold the bisector of angle ABC, producing a line that intersects
      side AD at a point somewhere above D, call it X, and the new line BX.
      Open the fold.

   3. Fold the bisector of angle ABX to create a temporary fold, intersecting
      side AD at point Y below A.  This fold will be useful later, leave it
      in place.

   4. Fold the bisector of angle BCD, producing a line that intersects
      line BX at point F, and line BY at point H.

   5. Open all folds, and you will see a vertical fold from side AB,
      about 0.75 inch to the right of corner A and parallel to side AD,
      which intersects line BY at point H.  Call the intersection of side
      AB and this fold point E, and the new line EH.

   6. Extend fold line EH down to side CD, intersecting at a point we'll
      call G.

   7. Rectangle EBCG is of the A4 format, with the lengths of sides EB and
      BC having a ratio of 1:suareroot(2).

   Proof:
      By construction, triangle BFC is a 45-45-90 triangle, and thus the
   ratio of the lengths of side BF to side BC is 1:squareroot(2).  Also by
   construction, line BE is the same length as line BF, so the ratio of the
   lengths of sides BE and BF is 1:squareroot(2), or A4 format.  QED

   I suspect that this fold produces the largest A4 format rectangle from an
   8.5 by 11 inch sheet, but I have not yet proved this.

       John Andrisan

 John Andrisan
 IBMMAIL: USMCDQND   Internet: a004773%lbvm1.profs@mdcgwy.mdc.com





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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:54:21 -0300
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: non-modular business card folds

I was bumped from the list last week without knowing it, so I guess I
missed the start of this thread.  I would be interesting in hearing
more about non-modular business card models.  I have already seen a
frog.

I've concentrated on modulars myself because I'm interested in
geometric forms, but also because that's what I feel the medium best
lends itself to.  B-cards are thick and stiff and cannot be folded
into insects with many legs, etc.  But their springiness makes special
modular assemblies possible (flaps without pockets) which are
difficult or impossible with regular paper.

My son Simon, who will be 8 next week, has started making animal
models out of multiple cards.  The designs are crude, but he is
developing some interesting techniques.

        -- jeannine mosely





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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:55:54 -0300
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: Molecular modeling

> OK, no more chemical physics for now.  But Robert, won't you tell us what
> closest packed circles have to do with origami bases?

Okay, here goes. There is growing body of work on the problem of designing an
origami base with a given number and distribution of flaps (or points, if you
prefer). It turns out that the problem of designing a base with N flaps of
length L1, L2,...LN, all of which meet at a common point, is isomorphic to
the problem of packing N circles of radii L1...LN such that their centers lie
within a square. "Isomorphic" means if you have a solution to the circle
packing problem, you can add a few more lines to it and get the crease
pattern for the origami base (and vice versa). The problem of constructing a
base with N equal-length flaps is isomorphic to the problem of packing N
circles wholly into a square -- which itself has a rather interesting history
(the solution for N=10 was only found (or rather, conjectured) as recently as
1990).

The circle-packing only applies to bases in which all the flaps come together
at a single point, but one can extend the theory to cover more general
networks. This theory is the basis of TreeMaker, which I have mentioned here
before, and which I PROMISE will be posted shortly on the archives.

Robert





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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:55:21 -0300
From: Sue Sierra <ssierra@math.lsa.umich.edu>
Subject: Recommendations for 10" paper?

Hello all - I recently discovered that the paper that I had thought was 9 3/4"
     by
9 3/4 " was actually 1/16 of an inch longer on one side than on the other!
(This explains a lot of the trouble I have been having recently).
     Unfortunately,
I'm not keeping the paper in its original package, so I don't know what size
it is.

Does anyone have a recommendation for origami paper, approx. 10" on a side, that
I can trust to be square?  I want what I think is called kami weight, the
kind that is colored on one side and white on the other.

Thanks so much,

Sue Sierra
ssierra@math.lsa.umich.edu





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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:56:56 -0300
From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org>
Subject: North American Animals in Origami

So far so good!
The duck, swan and heron offered no difficulties. That does not mean that
they are not good models :-) It would be nice to get that heron to stand on
its own two legs. Is that possible?

The next model--the roadrunner--is quite cute (for lack of any other
adjective). I must have been lucky. My completed model is able to stand on
its own!

Loved the Jack Rabbit--especially its ears!
(Yep, I skipped the two models of the cactus (or is it cacti).

The mouse is fantastic and has nice ears as well.

Ultra-fantastic! That's the armadillo. (It seems obvious that step 28 has too
many valley folds indicated :-)

The Bald Eagle was also a nice model to fold and ends up looking very nice..

I completed one Bighorn Sheep but I was not too happy with its look. I'll
have to try again to see if I can get it to look a bit more alive.

The Bobcat is one of the most frustrating models I have encountered in quite
a while. Some of the steps are really weird. What makes them even more weird
is that they actually work! That sink in step 43 took quite a while to
complete. I still can't believe I completed steps 52 - 54.

If the armadillo was ultra-fantastic then the Great Horned Owl is
indescribable! It progresses simply and looks perfect when complete.

The Quail and Pheasant were quite nice to complete. When my wife first saw
the quail she asked why there was a third leg coming out of "that bird's"
head!

The Squirrel and Beaver are really cute! I still haven't figured out why
they rate 3 stars in terms of complexity. My only complaint regarding these
two models is the thickness of those forelegs--not too simple to shape them
at the end.

Get rid of that sink in step 35 of the bear and you will have a simple model
:-) I like the model and was finally able to complete it out of a smaller
sheet of paper. Couldn't get that sink right for some reason on the larger
sheet.

In terms of simplicity of progression, I enjoyed the Coyote almost as much
as the squirrel. I even like its legs better!

The Bison--the model I have just completed--is the coup-de-etat! It takes a
while to complete all the folds but none of them are too difficult. The
completed model is just great!

--
Sheldon Ackerman
ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org
sheldon.ackerman@nycps.nycenet.edu





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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:56:24 -0300
From: "Londono, Juancarlos (3421)" <J.LONDONO@CGNET.COM>
Subject: RE: Star Trek Ship

>If you have the instructions to build the Star Trek ships l'd love to
   get
>hold of it.

Me too!

Juancarlos
J.londono@cgnet.com





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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 22:24:14 -0300
From: Origamiist@aol.com
Subject: Thanx to Joe & Cyn & more TREK

Thanx to Joseph and Cynthia (Hi Cyn, I quit my job after the Convention) for
answering the questions about the enterprise model. It never occurred to me
how many people would be interested in that one when I mentioned it and I
haven't checked my mail in a couple of days. By the way if you try to make
one real big it has to be pretty heavy paper because the saucer section flops
over otherwise. (I made one that when finished was about a foot long. It was
pretty sad looking) I am inspired now to try and design some of the other
ships from that show. I hope Jeremy doesn't mind if I use variations of his
"enterprise Base" to do this. Who Knows maybe we could sell it to Paramount!
:-)
-Vern





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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 22:46:01 -0300
From: William Anstine <cptcobel@yrkpa.kias.com>
Subject: RE: Kawasaki Rose Query

I work in a small bookstore in a mall, and I think we may have that
book.. "The Encyclopedia of Origami and Papercraft Techniques" I believe
it is called.. shows the photo of that darn enigma cube and the rose
tesselations... If anyone is interested, mail me and I can hold it,
purchase and ship it...

On Mon, 24 Jul 1995 Grace.Chiu@cognos.com wrote:

>
> Nick wrote:
> >When Kawasaki came to the Brummy convention, he broght a set of about 16
> >roses from a single square, the model being about 4" across! Apparently, he
> >"draws" precreases using a knife (carefully, I'd imagine!)
>
> "Brummy" convention?
>
> And Valerie wrote:
> >It's a fold map with some basic precreasing directions etc. and presumes
> you
> >know what the end results looks like and/or have access to Jackson's
> >encyclopedia.
>
> Okay.  I have given up on finding this Jackson's encyclopedia up here.
> Do any Montreal or Toronto people know where to find it?
>
> And this mangled tesselation still sits here on my desk...
>
> I have a photo of the single (not a tesselation) Kawasaki rose on the back
> cover of the Spanish book "Papiroflexia Basica" by Vincent V. The book
> doesn't have the instructions to fold the roses, however.  :^(
>
> So, other than "Origami for the Connoisseur"* which is
> out-of-print/permanently-
> backordered, are there instructions for the single Kawasaki rose elsewhere?
> I tried interpolating the rose tesselation and ended up with a four-leafed
> clover (sink-folded the little tesseled square & mtn-folded the corners).
>  %^P
>
> * I nearly had it, but I lost out on the auction by $3 at Convention.  :^(
>
> Grace
>  ---
> Grace Chiu, Enslavened Manager, Technology Support Services,
> Cognos Inc.: Rubberneckers on the Information Super-Dirt Road
> Ottawa, ON 1-800-365-3968, ext. 3218.
> Grace.Chiu@Cognos.COM or chiug@cognos.com





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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 22:49:39 -0300
From: Modice@aol.com
Subject: paper longevity

     With what can I paint/spray my folded boxes as to make them
leathery/"vinyl-esque"? Everything I have tried makes them sticky and
unusable. (Decoupage, MogdePodge, DecoGlaze, JoliGlaze).
