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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 19:41:15 -0300
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: A4

In message <Pine.SUN.3.91.950708003749.20218A-100000@elaine45.Stanford.EDU>,
Kevin wrote:
+On Sat, 8 Jul 1995, Robert Hudson wrote:
+> This has probably been posted and asked.. .but what is the EASIEST way
+> to make A4 sized paper?  I'm trying to make a modular dodecahedron (from
+Robert,
+       An easy method using 8.5" X 11" paper, as used in the U.S. of A.,
+was posted to this mailing list not too long ago.  I don't remember who
+wrote the message, but (s)he said that cutting a 0.75" X 11" strip off of
+the 8.5" X 11" paper left you with a 7.5" X 11" sheet of paper, which is
+roughly the dimensions of an A4 sheet.  I've tried this and it works
+pretty well.
+       Hope this helps...

Kevin,

    I am the guilty party you are referring to.  Note that if you take a
.75x11 inch strip from a 8.5x11inch piece of paper, you should get a
7.75x11inch piece of paper left over.  For a TRUE 1:sqrt(2) rectangle you
would want a 7.778...x11inch piece of paper.  The difference between that and
     the 7.75x11 is approximately a third of a percent.

    Warning:  I have noticed that a lot of the paper I have started from has
been wider that 8.5inches (though, so far, always 11inches long), so I find
it better to cut the paper explicitly to 7.75x11, rather than cut off a
.75inch strip, because if you strip off .75 from an 8.6inch wide piece, your
resulting paper has about three times the error that the 7.75x11inch piece
does.

For the "standard" 8.5x11inch paper, the numbers are:

    11/7.75                     = 1.41935483870967741935
    (11/7.75)-sqrt(2)           =  .00514127633658237055
    ((11/7.75)-sqrt(2))/sqrt(2) =  .00363543136155132495
                          =  .36354313615513249500% error

If your paper is 8.6x11inch and you trim off .75inches, then the numbers are:
    11/7.85            = 1.40127388535031847133
    (11/7.85)-sqrt(2)     = -.01293967702277657747
    ((11/7.85)-sqrt(2))/sqrt(2) = -.00914973336916907409
                          = -.91497333691690740900% error

which is off by almost three times as much! ;-)

-Doug "Overanalyzing again" Philips





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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 20:02:06 -0300
From: Richard Kennedy <KENNEDRA@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: A4

Surely the easiest way to get A4 paper is to start up a correspondence
with someone in Europe! We have reams of the stuff.

Richard K.





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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 20:16:05 -0300
From: Sheila Davis <sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.COM>
Subject: Re: Cat toys

Nick Robinson writes:

> >     Whenever I make one of these
> >     for our Tabby, he chases it around the house for a hour or so.
> >     We later find a thoroughly stoned cat lying in a pile of
> >     origami confetti.
>
> Catnip or cannabis????
>
        :-)  Catnip.  For how the cat acts, though,  it might as well be pot.
        You can almost hear him purring "Wowwwww maaaan".

Regards,

  Sheila Davis        Hewlett-Packard IC Business Division
 sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com          Fort Collins, Colorado





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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 20:26:55 -0300
From: jnoll@su19bb.ess.harris.com (John Noll)
Subject: Re: Vocation

> >>
> >> What other vocations do folks on this list have?
> >
> >>

I am an electrical engineer.  Mostly DSP (Digital Signal Processing) and
     Communications
work.  I do both hardware and software (mostly low level embedded software)





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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 20:39:06 -0300
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@tritec.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: HELLLP!!! // SORRY!!!

> also wondering If Steve + Megumi Biddle are part of this mailing list.

Unlikely - I don't think they are computer-literate, as it were. I'm happy
to be proved wrong Steve!

Nick Robinson

***** "Origami isn't just for squares!" *****





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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 20:49:44 -0300
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@tritec.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: RE: Greg Rusedski

Hi there,

T'was but a joke :)

Nick Robinson

***** "Origami isn't just for squares!" *****





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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 21:00:33 -0300
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@tritec.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: folding tools

Hi,

>  I was folding "the wave" today at a meeting and I found that the edge of
>  the table was quite useful in folding the diagonals that are hard to
>  position because they are not parallel or vertical to anything. I would
>  use the table edge to set up a pre-fold line.

Surely you position them by lining up adjacent sides??? Don't wrry about the
corners, line up any 2 points on a side & the corners will be OK.

Nick Robinson

***** "Origami isn't just for squares!" *****





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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 10:16:32 -0300
From: Bonnie McBride <bmcbride@leroy.cc.uregina.CA>
Subject: Re: Vocation

On Mon, 10 Jul 1995 15:53:12 -0300 PamGotcher@aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 95-07-08 16:37:55 EDT, you write:
>
>>>
>>> What other vocations do folks on this list have?
>>
>>>

This says it all:

Bonnie McBride A.Sc.T.
Technical Analyst
University of Regina, SK

email: bmcbride@leroy.cc.uregina.ca





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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 10:23:10 -0300
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@tritec.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: OUSA

Hi

> Thanks in advance, (And sorry for my lousy English... :-( )

You're American aren't you? 'Nuff said :)

Nick Robinson

***** "Origami isn't just for squares!" *****





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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 10:26:36 -0300
From: Nick Robinson <Nick@tritec.demon.co.uk>
Subject: occupations

Hi there,

I'm a teacher basically. Check my web page (click on my name at the BOS
page chez Josephs...)

Nick Robinson

***** "Origami isn't just for squares!" *****





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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 10:30:02 -0300
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Square paper...

While at the convention Rob Hudson ("Soylent Green" on origami-l) turned me on
to Astro Brights Note Cubes.  But then I forgot about them until I was
persuing the article archives and found the message:

    Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 20:10:56 -0300
    From: Folderbuck@aol.COM
    Subject: Re: post-its, color fading & ...

    Valerie Vann and all others interested in memo cubes,
        I've read with great interest the discussion about using post-it
    paper for folding. Office Depot carries note cubes of Astro Brights
    paper manufactured by Wausau Papers. For about $4.00, the pad cosists of
    550 3 1/2 x 3 1/2 inch sheets, accuartely cut into squares, of 11
    colors. Magenta, lime, forest green, school bus yellow, chinese red,
    brilliant red-orange, pumpkin, canary, hot pink, teal and grape. The bar
    code number is 59598 21501. Check your office supply stores - I've seen
    essentially the same product in Kansas City, MO. This stuff is ideal for
    any kind of modulars and no adhesive strips to deal with.

    Steve

And I thought to myself, "Accurately cute" and "truly square"... Yeah Right.
Well, I was wrong.  I was in the local Office Max recently and had
completely forgotten about Astro Brights when I just happened to run across
a display of them.  Something clicked in my poor rusted brain, and I thought
again:  Yeah Right.  But they are cheap, what the heck.  So I got two
cubes.  One I took home, the other I took into my office.  The one I have at
home is close to square, but noticebly not square.  The one I have in my
office is almost perfect, it depends on the particular sheet.  I have found
several that I thought weren't square, but it turned out that I hadn't
aligned the corners correctly when folding!  I think the reason for the
difference is simply humidity.  For whatever reason, the humidity in my
office is very close to the humidity in the plant where the paper was cut.
My house doesn't have A/C, so it is very humid and uncomfortable there and I
think that is making that paper slightly rectangular.  Since I am not likely
to use up all 1100 sheets, plus the cube of 1000 sheets that I got at the
Convention, by winter, I'll be able to see if the forced air furnace induced
dryness this fall helps to square them up.  (Naw, I could just bring them
into the office for a few days, but that's toooo easy!).

Ok, so what is the paper like?  It is a real self-sufficient note cube, and
as such it has a glued side to hold all the paper together.  You have to
double check the glued edge when you remove a sheet, and if it still has
some glue stuck to it, remove it.  No biggie.  The fact that it is a glued
cube means that until you've used a lot of it, it will hold itself together
nicely without an extra box, or whatever.  That is useful.  The paper
surface is smooth and the paper is about twice as thick as Kami, at least it
fells that way to my blunt fingers.  Maybe twice as thick is an
exaggeration.  Thicker than Post-It Notes paper, but not by much.  When you
crease it, it tends to crease a little bit like construction paper creases.
If you open the fold it tends to be a thick-ish fold with a very thin ridge
of compressed paper on the mountain side of the fold, rather than a thin
crisp one like you get with Kami.  I haven't yet done anything that has lots
of layers, or that really tests the strength of the paper, so I'm withholding
final judgement.  I like it well enough to keep using, and to try out on some
other local folders.  Will report more later.

-Doug





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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 10:34:35 -0300
From: "Bimal R. Desai" <bdesai@emory.edu>
Subject: RE: Vocation

I'm a recent college gradutate (Emory University in Atlanta) with plans to
attend Med School in the fall of '96.

ps - I'll be in school at the Washington University School of Medicine
starting the summer of 96, and I'd love to hear from folders in the St.
Louis area.  Also, I'll be at the University of St. Andrews in Scotland
from September '95 to June '96.  Any info about joining B.O.S.  or other
societies in the area would be greatly appreciated.

-Thanks!

Bimal





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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 10:38:30 -0300
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <contract@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: Vocation

On Mon, 10 Jul 1995 DBSH47B@prodigy.com (MRS. JANET J HAMILTON) said:

>Not that I think there are a disproportionate number of programmers
folding,
>just a disproportionate number of programmers with internet access.
>
Actually, I think that it is both. As for myself, I have a degree in CS,
but I act as a job search specialist for the computer field.

Marc





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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 10:42:07 -0300
From: CM2018@aol.com
Subject: Re: Vocation

I am a 8th grader / vollunteer / photographer / woodworker / person.





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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 10:46:47 -0300
From: Bateman "A." "G." <agb@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Home page

Hi all,
       Could someone check out my new home page, to see if it works.
It has a couple of pictures of things I've folded.

http://sonja.acad.cai.cam.ac.uk/alex.htm

Send mail to me

agb@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk





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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 10:50:19 -0300
From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: Help!

>
> I am not sure if I have a PostScript printer, I have a LaserJet 4+.  Also, is
> there a better .ps reader than GhostScript (I don't like it)?
>
Odds are if you had one you'd know as you'd be able to print .ps files.
And I've never yet found someone who liked GhostScript, but until theres
something else, that's what we are stuck using.

--
Sheldon Ackerman
ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org
sheldon.ackerman@nycps.nycenet.edu





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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 10:53:43 -0300
From: Eric Tend <eric@hpisdaja.ptp.hp.com>
Subject: Re: Vocation

I am a development engineer with Integrated Systems Division at
Hewlett-Packard.





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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 10:57:25 -0300
From: Douglas Zander <dzander@solaria.sol.net>
Subject: convention package?

  Hello all,

    I'm just wondering when those of us who didn't attend the convention
  are to receive the "Sorry I couldn't attend" convention packet.  I'm
  anxious to see the convention book!  Did anyone else receive theirs yet?
--
 Douglas Zander          | editor of GAMES Player's Zine (GPZ)
 dzander@solaria.sol.net | an ezine for subscribers of GAMES Magazine (tm)





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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:00:58 -0300
From: PamGotcher@aol.com
Subject: Jewelry Coatings

I'm wondering what is used by various list members to harden the jewelry that
they make from origami.  I've heard finger polish and some sprays, and even
something called liquid porcelin, but I was wondering what people's
experience with these kinds of things were. Thanks!
Pam Gotcher





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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:04:33 -0300
From: SharynN@aol.com
Subject: vocation

I am a children's book editor, author, and musician.  I don't fold much any
more; I knit now.  I think I rationalize this by saying: "Yes, but I can WEAR
what I make now."  But I still fold in boring meetings.

Sharyn November





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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:09:18 -0300
From: Philip Craig Chapman-Bell <CHAPBELL@delphi.COM>
Subject: Another Silly Paper Query

Dear OLOians,
     Out upon it: I have finally triple-decreeped the octagonal tato,
preliminary to attempting the Mehhara Khatem Masu.  (What lovely jargon, I
couldn't resist.)  Decreeping being a process of freeing up trapped layers
in a model through a combination of spiraling and pleating, sort of, a tato
being a Japanese purse, a masu a measuring-box, and mehhara khatem an Old
Moorish octagon-square decoration deal.  I don't know, it's a model
developed by Chris Palmer, which some you may have seen at the Convention.
It's been preying on my mind ever since I got back.  The tato I made out of
a 19-inch square of heavy Italian paper, but even this finally fatigued at
the corners, and is a bit out at the elbows.  The model Chris brought to the
Convention was made out of something I think he said was Fleckstone, and
used to be called Elephant Hide -- whatever it was looked quite tough, but
neither term rang any bells at the art supply store.  Does anyone know
anything about this mystery paper?  I'd appreciate any hint.
     Yours, <>Philip<>

Philip Craig Chapman-Bell  Northampton, Massachusetts
chapbell@delphi.com

`[1;35;43mRainbow V 1.17.0 for Delphi - Test Drive





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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:12:51 -0300
From: Folderbuck@aol.com
Subject: Re: Vocation, etc.....

Responses to various topics...

I'm an architect and typically work on large commercial projects, university
buildings and the latest, a new downtown arena for Washington, D.C. Much like
origami, my job deals with conversion of two-dimensional information into
three dimensional objects. Although origami is much faster and doesn't have
to conform to codes or zoning...

As for cat toys, I've had great success using a three unit Toshie's jewel
made from Astrobrights memo cube sheets with a single round pellet of high
quality cat food rolling around inside to create some  noise. If the cat
doesn't knock it under the sofa, he gets a little treat for tearing the jewel
apart. Cats seem to love the eccentric ways the jewel bounces.

As for tools,  the only one that I use often is similar to a bone folder.
I didnt like the look or feel of bone or plastic and discovered that certain
sculpting tools come in a variety of shapes and types of wood. Just pick the
one or two that seem to suit you best. The one I have is flat on one end like
a folder and has a more pointed, slightly rounded , slightly bent point at
the other. This end helps pick out hidden flaps and other layers of paper.
And the wood feels great in your hand.

Business cards:
While at the convention I visited an oriental gift store that had small
origami paper in plastic holders imported from Korea. The Oriental Culture
Enterprises Co., Inc. at 13-17 Elizabeth St. has business cards which measure
57mm x 95 mm ( 2 1/4" x 3 3/4").

-Steve Buck





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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:16:28 -0300
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: A4

Richard,

+Surely the easiest way to get A4 paper is to start up a correspondence
+with someone in Europe! We have reams of the stuff.

Cute idea, but frankly I don't think it'd survive the journey unwrinkled. :-(
It is very hard to get squre KAMI paper here from Japan (humidity might be the
spoiling factor though, you'd think they'd print on the package:  This paper
square at <m>%percent relative humidty at <n>degrees centigrade.)

-Doug





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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:20:05 -0300
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: convention displays

to V'Ann -

BOOHOO, you make me even more sad that I missed the convention (One of these
days... )

Anyway, your description of some of the models has intriguied (sp?) me - for
example, what the heck is a Pittsburgh Table?

I'm also interested in the tessalations that keep

being mentioned - quite frequently lately. I have only seen pictures in the
OUSA newsletter, and I can't help but thinking they probably don't do much
justice to the model (no offense to all the photographers out there! I know
though how hard it is do something justice with a still, then have it rendered
into balck and white) Could someone explain more about this form? Sorry I
am such a bonehead - I've been folding for 20+ more years than I like to think
about, and I never even heard of wet-folding until a year or two ago! (Or
should I admit something like that on-line?! ;-)

Dee.





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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:42:35 -0300
From: Basja Samuelson - WCCLS <samuelso@iclnet93.iclnet.org>
Subject: Re: Vocation

I also (the 3rd, I believe) am a technical services librarian, for a
consortium of libraries in Washington County, outside of Portland,
Oregon. Our County is home to Intel, Tektronics, Nike, and Sequent Computers.
My name, Basja, rhymes with Sasha; Been doing origami for about 25 years
-- learned with Michael, Don and David Shall in  Harrisburg, Pa.





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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 08:27:35 -0300
From: jfryer@lib.ursinus.EDU
Subject: RE: occupations

I'm a Reference Librarian at a small liberal arts college.

=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=

                               Judith E. Fryer
                     Reference Librarian, Myrin Library
           Ursinus College, Box 1000   Collegeville PA  19426-1000
             (610) 489-4111 ext. 2302      jfryer@lib.ursinus.edu





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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 08:39:57 -0300
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.COM>
Subject: Re: Help! PS printer

No, a LaserJet4+ is not a Postscript Printer. It uses a different
language called HPCL. However, any LaserJet with an M in the name,
eg. LaserJet4M, is compatible with Macintosh computers too, and DOES
come with PostScript. Also, most HP LaserJets can be retrofitted
with PostScript, either by an HP-made circuit board/cartridge, or
one from another manufacturer, eg. Pacific Data. Look for "Pacific
Page" units in computer catalogs and check for your specific model
of laserjet. The unit for LaserJet4 (not 4+) is about $250 (we just
retro'd one at work); the "Plus" may need a different model or just
the HP may be available. HP stuff is usually more expensive. Also,
depending on how much RAM you've got on your printer you may need to
add more if you want to print full page PS graphics. Its worth
considering if you are printing lots of PS files - saves time and
aggravation...

--valerie

 Valerie Vann        compuserve: 75070,304
   INTERNET:75070.304@compuserve.com
>> It is the art of engineering to reach         <<
>> sufficient conclusions from insufficient data <<





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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 08:47:47 -0300
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.COM>
Subject: Re: Vocation

I am a Software Engineer, but have been doing mostly programming and porting
of other folks software to different platforms, of late.

-Doug
http://www.transarc.com/afs/transarc.com/public/dwp/html/Home.html





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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 08:55:51 -0300
From: Jennifer.Campbell@cciw.CA (Jennifer Campbell)
Subject: vocation

Seeing as this poll is really catching on...

I'm a "data management specialist" with the Canadian Hydrographic Service.
These days that means developing database applications in Oracle. In the
past I've worked on hydrographic surveys and prepared digital chart files.
I know there are other Oracle people on this list!

       /\_/\       ________
     `(     )' oo /        \
       `==='     | Maguro o |
       /   \     |  kudasai |
      |     |     \________/
      |     |
    ___\___/__jennifer.campbell@cciw.ca





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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 09:00:44 -0300
From: Joseph Wu <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Re: Another Silly Paper Query

On Tue, 11 Jul 1995, Philip Craig Chapman-Bell wrote:

> Convention was made out of something I think he said was Fleckstone, and
> used to be called Elephant Hide -- whatever it was looked quite tough, but
> neither term rang any bells at the art supply store.  Does anyone know
> anything about this mystery paper?  I'd appreciate any hint.

Sounds like "marble" a paper made by Wyndstone. If all else fails, I know
that New York Central Art Supply carries it (although they still use the
old name of "elephant hide").

Joseph Wu      <jwu@cs.ubc.ca> | Witty quote is now back to the
Master's Student               |   drawing board due to squeamish
University of British Columbia |   readers. Any suggestions?
WWW: http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html (Origami Page)





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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 09:04:41 -0300
From: Phillip Yee <Phillip_Yee++LOCAL+dADR%Nordstrom_6731691@mcimail.com>
Subject: ANOTHER SILLY PAPER QUERY

Philip,

Sounds to  me  like it's Wyndstone marbled paper. It's very  much
like elephant hide and sort  of rhymes with Fleckstone. Hope it's
what you're after.

Phillip





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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 09:09:24 -0300
From: Eric Tend <eric@hpisdaja.ptp.hp.com>
Subject: Re: convention package?

>   Hello all,

>     I'm just wondering when those of us who didn't attend the convention
>   are to receive the "Sorry I couldn't attend" convention packet.  I'm
>   anxious to see the convention book!  Did anyone else receive theirs yet?

I'm still waiting too ... I spoke with Origami USA and they said that
they will begin sending the paks out starting the week of August 1st.

--Eric--

==============================================================================
     ____/__/__/__/__/__/__/ | "Its all in the reflexes"
      __/         __/        |                       -- Jack Burton
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    __/         __/          | Eric Tend
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 09:13:38 -0300
From: ACPQUINN@myriad.middlebury.edu
Subject: RE: business card dimensions

Jeannine-
I went through my foreign business cards and found that Asian standards, at
least, are the same as ours.  I have cards from Taiwan, China, and India, all
the same 2x3.5" dimensions as North American cards.  The only deviation from
"the norm" was a set of cards that were 3.75" long.  I found some oversize
cards from some European countries, but not enough to generalize.
Alasdair





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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 09:21:44 -0300
From: Richard Kennedy <KENNEDRA@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Vocation

University Lecturer, Physical Chemistry, University of Birmingham.
see also:  http://chemwww.bham.ac.uk/staff/kennedy.html





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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 09:26:21 -0300
From: wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu ("Iron Will" Dawes)
Subject: hajimemashite

Folders-
  Hey! My name is Will and I'm an undergrad at New Mexico State
University in Las Cruces. Yes; New Mexico is part of the United
States. I'm double majoring in Electrical Engineering and Mathematics,
with a minor in Computer Science. I've been folding since I was seven
(14 years). I am sort of a purist; I don't use tools, modulars, glue
or non-square paper. Of course, I don't condemn folders who do.

Japanese-speakers:
  Konnichiwa. Boku wa Uiriamu.Douzu de gozaimasu. Rainen no ichi-gatsu
ni Nihonhe iku kara Nihonjin ni aitai desu. Nihonjin wa boku ni kaite
kudasai. Arigatou.

                              -William R. Dawes





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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 11:48:15 -0300
From: dzimm@nando.net (David Zimmerman)
Subject: Re: vocation

I'm a software engineer for a small widget company in Cary, NC.
Widget Workshop, Inc
1143-I Executive Circle
Cary, NC 27511      919 481 3352       dzimm@widget.com

We make "Software Objects for Graphical User Interfaces."

Sounds impressive, doesn't it?

--
David P Zimmerman             dzimm@nando.net
916 Riderwood Ct               919 557 7692
WillowSpring NC 27592





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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 11:50:58 -0300
From: Cyrene Slegona <slegona@saturn.caps.maine.edu>
Subject: Re: Tell me al you know about....

On the page facing the title page of Paul Jacksons' -Encyclopedia of
Origami & Papercraft Techniques-, isbn 1 -56138-063-6, there is a piece
that looks like a tesselation, is red and white, and is located beside
the "enigma cube."

Please, tell me all that you can about it. I have looked at it for years,
love it and can't figure it out. Who designed it, etc.?

Thanks for any information.

Cyrene Slegona





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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:05:14 -0300
From: Kelly <kellyd@azstarnet.com>
Subject: crane symbol; and origami for sale

First, for the survey of jobs, I am an accountant.

CRANE SYMBOL
When my sister became sick last year, I sent her a string of nine
origami cranes, as a sort of get well card.  I told her that in
Japan, I thought the origami crane represented joy, hope,
good luck, good health and long life.
Now I can't remember where I heard this. The closest I have gotten is
the reference in Sadako and the 1000 paper cranes.

What does it represent?

ORIGAMI FOR SALE
I've often wondered about how I might be able to turn my hobby into a
part-time career.  What experience have others had with selling
origami?  With charging for lessons?  With entertaining at children's
parties?  Are there other options?





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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:07:06 -0300
From: Eric Tend <eric@hpisdaja.ptp.hp.com>
Subject: Re: ANOTHER SILLY PAPER QUERY

> Sounds to  me  like it's Wyndstone marbled paper. It's very  much
> like elephant hide and sort  of rhymes with Fleckstone. Hope it's
> what you're after.

Nope, Chris P. uses Wyndstone for his tesellations but the piece in question
was definitely made of some type of very thick and sturdy hide (almost like
the dog chewies stuff).

--Eric--

==============================================================================
     ____/__/__/__/__/__/__/ | "Its all in the reflexes"
      __/         __/        |                       -- Jack Burton
_______/__/      __/         |================================================
    __/         __/          | Eric Tend
 ____/__/__/   __/           | eric@hpisdaja.ptp.hp.com





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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:08:47 -0300
From: "TATE,TROY D" <troy.tate@zeta.dhs.state.tx.us>
Subject: RE:OCCUPTIONS

Occupational chain (movin' on up?)

SOFTWARE ENGINEER
     ^
     |
LAN ADMINISTRATOR
     ^
     |
ENVIRONMENTAL CHEMIST
     ^
     |
NUCLEAR OPERATOR

Avocation.....'FULL CONTACT' ORIGAMI

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit
there.      Will Rogers





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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 17:42:16 -0300
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: RE:OCCUPTIONS

One of my former co-workers liked to say that I am a GEOMETRIX.  I
design and implement software for geomtric modeling.  That is, I draw
lines tangent to circles and circles tangent to lines, tesselate
surfaces, make faces, and go for walks in the 4th dimension.

        -- jeannine mosely (j9@concentra.com)





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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 19:37:22 -0300
From: rmoes@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu (Robert Moes)
Subject: Re: vocation

I work as a pediatrician, here at the University of Iowa.  I have been
folding paper for almost 20 years longer than I've been a doctor!  What
used to be my huge collection of models has dwindled--but the kids do love
them....

--Rob





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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 19:38:45 -0300
From: Makaala647@aol.com
Subject: Re: Vocation

I am a Programmer/ System administrator for Pinkerton Security and
Investigation Services.

Matthew Sparks.





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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 19:38:08 -0300
From: brannon@ranger.enet.dec.com
Subject: Re: Vocation

another programmer -

Principal Software Engineer
Digital Equipment Corporation, Littleton, Massachusetts USA

Dennis Brannon   brannon@ranger.enet.dec.com





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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 19:39:48 -0300
From: wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu ("Iron Will" Dawes)
Subject: Re: crane symbol; and origami for sale

With profound wisdom, infinite insight and unparallelled studliness, Kelly
     writes:
-->CRANE SYMBOL
-->When my sister became sick last year, I sent her a string of nine
-->origami cranes, as a sort of get well card.  I told her that in
-->Japan, I thought the origami crane represented joy, hope,
-->good luck, good health and long life.
-->Now I can't remember where I heard this. The closest I have gotten is
-->the reference in Sadako and the 1000 paper cranes.
-->
-->What does it represent?
-->
-->
Kelly-
  Hey! The Japanese consider the crane (as well as the turtle) a very
lucky animal because it is believed to live for 1000 years. Along with
the frog (Have you heard the story of the princess and the origami
frog?), it is one of the first known origami designs. It is also used
in stores to welcome customers. The Japanese don't use the frog for
the same purpose because the Japanese word for frog, "kaeru", is a
homonymn for "to return". Anyway, the senba-tsuru ("1000 cranes") is
given to very sick friends and relatives. The makers of a senba-tsuru
may petition for the recovery of 1 sick person upon its completion.
Isao Honda's "The World of Origami" has an excellent introductory
chapter on the Japanese crane.
                              -William R. Dawes





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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 19:40:36 -0300
From: logician!sophie!pat@uunet.uu.net (Pat Zura)
Subject: Re: Another Silly Paper Query

In Regards to your letter <01HSPYEUDXT49GZ8LC@delphi.com>:

>The model Chris brought to the
>Convention was made out of something I think he said was Fleckstone, and
>used to be called Elephant Hide --

Try asking for Windstone (sp?) papers at art supply houses.  They will give
you several books of swatches and the one you are looking for will
probably be in there.  Chris folds many of his decreeped models from
something that is like lightweight oaktag, in decorator colors.  Those
are Windstone products.

Regards,

Pat





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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 22:03:52 -0300
From: DBSH47B@prodigy.com (MRS. JANET J HAMILTON)
Subject: Re: crane symbol; and origami for sale

-- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

> (Have you heard the story of the princess and the origami frog?)

No, I haven't heard this one.  Can you give more details?

Janet





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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 22:29:57 -0300
From: Todd.Graham@phoenix.net
Subject: Re: Vocation

> What other vocations do folks on this list have?

I am a graphic designer / commercial artist.  I have also done some
programming and database design.

Todd
(Origami Newbie)





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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 23:12:23 -0300
From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: Vocation

>
> > What other vocations do folks on this list have?

I teach homebound pupils.

--
Sheldon Ackerman
ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org
sheldon.ackerman@nycps.nycenet.edu





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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 23:16:24 -0300
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Kawasaki Rose Tessellation/Crystallization

Tom Hull & I had been discussing tessellations, and along with the recent
discussion on the list of Kawasaki's Rose I recalled that it had been awhile
since I tried reverse engineering the Rose Crystallization from Jackson's
Encyclopedia, and asked him if he'd done it. He mentioned discussing it with
Joseph Wu at the convention (Joseph, if you want the PS file for your page or
anything, feel free).

 In short, with a lot more experience in tessellations and the "real " Rose
since my first attempt, I found a good solution that isn't that difficult.

(Inventing it in the first place is an entirely different matter...  :-)

I diagrammed it on one page, along with some folding direction that make the
first try easier, and the resulting model is a 4 x 4 roses block like those
shown in Jackson.

As it happens, it had also been a long time since I visited the archives, too,
owing to an extremely awkward FTP facility, but now I have a fast modem and much
better software. So I was surprised and chagrined to discover there was already
on there!  But at the risk of immodesty, I think mine is a far better solution.
Anyway: the file is ROSETESS.PS, about 212K bytes.

The model  holds together quite well by itself (the opposing twists counteract
each other I think), but if you make a traditional Japanese square box from the
same size square, it holds it completly compressed to the size of the 4 x 4
bottoms of the sinks... The box I mean is 1/2 as high as square, is folded on
the diagonal of the paper, the 4 corners of the square end up meeting in the
center of the inside bottom. (The initial folds are similar to a Sullivan Castle
module.) The first 2 side are folded flat, stood up, and the other 2 sides wrap
up and over to the inside. The model fits snuggly inside.

--valerie
Compuserve: Valerie Vann 75070,304
Internet: 75070.304@compuserve.com





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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 01:14:08 -0300
From: Steve Vinik <z007169b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us>
Subject: Re: crane symbol; and origami for sale

I once created an original origami model for a TV commercial,
successfully auditioned for it and spent a whole day filming the thing. I
was folding a dollar bill into a sailboat for a bank commercial. It's not
an easy way to earn money with origami, but it sure was interesting.

My brother Tom does a lot with origami. He's something of a celebrity in
Davis, California. He sells collections of a thousand cranes, he teaches
origami (and is paid for it) in public schools and day care centers, he
entertains at parties, and he sells origami at fairs--the dollar bill folds
do good business because people see the paper itself as having value. I
think he's does some displays for wedding receptions too.

Steve Vinik
z007169b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us

Paper: the launching pad of the imagination

On Wed, 12 Jul 1995, Kelly wrote:

>
> ORIGAMI FOR SALE
> I've often wondered about how I might be able to turn my hobby into a
> part-time career.  What experience have others had with selling
> origami?  With charging for lessons?  With entertaining at children's
> parties?  Are there other options?





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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 05:23:00 -0300
From: "M.J.van.Gelder" <M.J.van.Gelder@rc.rug.nl>
Subject: Re: vocation

Saryn,

m> I am a children's book editor, author, and musician.  I don't fold much any
m> more; I knit now.  I think I rationalize this by saying: "Yes, but I can WEAR
m> what I make now."  But I still fold in boring meetings.

I made a vest from 800+ units. You can WEAR that too, although not for a long
time. It will too easy rip...

Maarten van Gelder, Rekencentrum RuG, RijksUniversiteit Groningen, Holland





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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:35:26 -0300
From: "Dorinha M.S.S. Vitti" <dmssvitt@carpa.ciagri.usp.br>
Subject: vocation

I am  biologist and an animal science research worker at Universidade of
Sao Paulo-





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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 11:14:17 -0300
From: rshuster@netaxs.com (Bob Shuster)
Subject: Re: vocation

I am a professional musician.  I mainly do theatre work (Broadway shows,
acts, etc.) but I also do weddings, bar mitzvahs, dixieland, pop
orchestras, and small ensemble work.  I am also a professional
composer/arranger/copyist (of music!) and this fills most of my days.  I've
always felt that origami helps me bring out the visual side of my
creativity (I haven't yet figured out how to make 'audio' origami! :)    -
Bob Shuster

      = = =      /| Bob Shuster                           |\      = = =
[>----|-|-|-----/ |   Composer/Arranger/Copyist/MIDI &    | \-----|-|-|----<]
  (___|_|_|____)\ |   Computer Consultant  (215-927-4928) | /(____|_|_|___)
      " " "      \|   (& trumpet!)  (rshuster@netaxs.com) |/      " " "
                   URL  -  http://www.netaxs.com/~rshuster





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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 11:50:11 -0300
From: Molly Haarhoff <mhaarhof@stimpy.acofi.edu>
Subject: Re: Vocation + paper question

I am a librarian, who like Maarten, knits more than I fold...

I would like ideas on how to make a really large crane.  I have made one
of  4 foot square newsprint but I can no longer get newsprint. What sort of
glue would be best for "constructing" paper.?  I figure wrapping paper or
foil will be best. And what would be a range of reasonable sizes?  I am
not interested in a record here, just getting a crane that will display
well and be fun for a group to make.

> >
> > > What other vocations do folks on this list have?





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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 14:15:38 -0300
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <contract@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: Vocation + paper question

On Thu, 13 Jul 1995 Molly Haarhoff <mhaarhof@stimpy.acofi.edu> said:

>I would like ideas on how to make a really large crane.  I have made one
of  4
>foot square newsprint but I can no longer get newsprint. What sort of glue

>would be best for "constructing" paper.?  I figure wrapping paper or foil
will
>be best. And what would be a range of reasonable sizes?  I am not
interested in
>a record here, just getting a crane that will display well and be fun for
a
>group to make.

 When you want to use large paper, and none is available, the only
alternative that I can think of is to tape sheets together. The critical
thing is not to let the seams show: First fold a test model from lightly
coloured paper. Then colour your model with a marker. When you unfold your
model, it should become apparent as to which surfaces are exposed. With
this info, you can join papers together, and then trim it to your square.
When folding very large models, the paper might not be able to support
itself; you might have to wire your model.

Marc





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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 16:21:00 -0300
From: gjones@yeti.polarnet.fnsb.ak.us (G. Jones)
Subject: Re: crane symbol; and origami for sale

Hi Steve,

You wrote:
and he sells origami at fairs--the dollar bill folds
do good business because people see the paper itself as having value.

Just out of curiosity (we have lots of chrismas craft shows here) how much
do he sell them for?

TIA--gj





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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 17:30:59 -0300
From: wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu ("Iron Will" Dawes)
Subject: large crane

With profound wisdom, infinite insight and unparallelled studliness, Molly
     Haarhoff writes:
-->I would like ideas on how to make a really large crane.  I have made one
-->of  4 foot square newsprint but I can no longer get newsprint. What sort of
-->glue would be best for "constructing" paper.?  I figure wrapping paper or
-->foil will be best. And what would be a range of reasonable sizes?  I am
-->not interested in a record here, just getting a crane that will display
-->well and be fun for a group to make.
Molly-
  Hey! You might want to try shoji (the sheet paper for traditional
Japanese "walls"). It's not as easy to find as origami, but you can
get squares as large as you like. It's also much better for folding
than wrapping paper (educators in Japan use it to instruct children in
origami). You might also want to try separate sheets for separate
parts of the crane, particularly since it's a group project.
                              -Will





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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 17:56:17 -0300
From: wdawes@cs.nmsu.edu ("Iron Will" Dawes)
Subject: origami frog

Janet-
  Hey! I read this story when I was seven or eight, so please forgive
me if I botch the details.
  This story takes place in early 9th century Japan. There was a
Japanese princess who was eligible for marriage and petitioning for
suitors. Many rich suitors came and sought her hand, bringing fabulous
gifts of ornamental animals. The only man she found interesting was
the son of a farmer, who (of course) was very poor and had no gifts to
bring. The girl's father would not hear of her wasting her time with a
suitor who couldn't even match the gifts of the others. When he heard
this, the peasant made a frog from paper and delivered it to her, this
being the first origami design ever. Predictably, the two married.
  I don't find this story very believable, since paper was more
expensive in Japan at that time than jeweled frogs could have been.
Still, it's a nice story.
                              -Will

_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
_/                                              _/
_/      "In origami, crossing the divide is a   _/
_/       spiritual act. Is the model immanent   _/
_/       in the paper, or is the square a       _/
_/       blank slate to be written on by the    _/
_/       creator? Does each model possess a     _/
_/       set of phylogenetic rules governing    _/
_/       its shape and structure? In the        _/
_/       morphogenesis of the model, how do     _/
_/       local(cellular) and global(organismic) _/
_/       structures meet? Like natural          _/
_/       selection - or God - does the folder   _/
_/       impose a teleology on a blind,         _/
_/       mechanical process? The answers are    _/
_/       remote and elusive - as elusive as     _/
_/       the origin of life."                   _/
_/                  -M.C. Escher    _/





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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 18:11:30 -0300
From: LEMIEUXJ@aspen.uml.edu
Subject: Found Paper

  After my  automobile was serviced, I found a  16 inch
perfect square of paper on the floor. It was white on one
side and the other side had a message:
  This Paper "Floor Mat" Was Used to Protect The Carpet While
We Serviced Your Car.   Kendall Motor Oil

  To see if it was square I folded it into a crane, went back
to see the service manager and gave him an origami gift.

  When I explained how such a large sheet of paper would be
very visible to a class of 15 would be paper folders, he gave
me a pad to the paper. The children were impressed.

Bob
J. Robert A. Lemieux
lemieuxj@woods.uml.edu





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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 21:18:46 -0300
From: PamGotcher@aol.com
Subject: Jewelry coatings

I asked this question several days ago and I'm not sure that it actually made
it to the list.  I'm playing around with miniatures and would like to make
some jewelry.  I noticed that the porcelain glazed earrings I bought at
convention actually stick to my earlobes - which is a little disconcerting
when one goes to take them out (off?) at night. I was wondering what
experiences others on the list have with some of the other coatings used to
harden up origami for jewelry.  Thanks!





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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 22:43:55 -0300
From: LarryFinch@aol.com
Subject: Re: Vocation

I'm a software designer/development manager.

Larry Finch
larry@jyacc.com
larryfinch@aol.com





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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 23:53:50 -0300
From: jdharris@lust.isem.smu.edu (Jerry Harris)
Subject: Re: Vocation

        I'm not sure what this string is about, as I've been out of commission
     for a while, but if it's just a poll about the career choices of we
     folders, I'm a PhD student at Southern methodist University, studying
     paleontology (dinosaurs in particular)

                                    -- Jerry Dis





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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 00:22:13 -0300
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Vocation

> > What other vocations do folks on this list have?

I'm a geographic-geomorphologic-hydrologic-civil-engineering technician, based
on
an education in architecture, decorative arts, German, European History and
Physical & Cutural Geography, with a little engineering, cartography, italian,
Latin,
photo interpretation, etc. thrown in. (That's the stuff on the transcript) Most
of the
really useful stuff I picked up in the real world. I'm also my company's
computer
hardware & software support person. Librarian. Archivist. Historian. Whatever.
(I've
been there longer than the current management & know where all the bones are
buried.) The civil engineering we do is so specialized & exotic none of can
describe
what we do, but we've noticed that whoever needs us always manages to find us.

 I like rabbits, parrots, teddy bears, computers & steam engines.  I like to
tinker, invent & fix stuff, energies that are currently mainly devoted to
Origami plus
keeping an old house from falling down around my ears. Heck I've got so many
vocations I don't know what my vocation is!

--valerie





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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 00:22:58 -0300
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Paper to make large crane

Some other sources:

Engineering or blueprint services or supply stores carry large sizes of white
bond paper for the large document xerox machines used to reproduce engineering
drawings these days. A blueprint service might be the best bet as they keep
reams of
it arround and might be talked out of small quantities. Maybe even cut it square
for you (its rectangular eg 18 x24, 36 x 42 etc.) if its for a good cause. They
routinely send us samples to try out as its used in engineering printers &
plotters too and some papers work better than others with a particular machine.
(some of the samples, needless to say end up folded :-)

Engineering Vellum, a sort of translucent white "tracing paper" also comes in
these
big sizes. Good for tessellations & made to stand up to lots of handling and
long
storage. Same places have this stuff.

Another: available at art supply stores - rolls of heavy wrapping paper weight
solid colored paper (most bright colors) used for photo & display backdrops,
bulletin boards etc. doesn't fade real fast. About 40 inches wide I think.

Also Tyvek builders paper, discussed here previously. New houses are "wrapped"
in it Check building sites, lumber yards. Usually has brand info printed all
over it; some
Ive seen here lately is pale blue.

--valerie
Compuserve: Valerie Vann 75070,304
Internet: 75070.304@compuserve.com





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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 00:53:40 -0300
From: sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV (Shi-Yew Chen)
Subject: Re: Vocation

Software programmer, engineer, designer, ......
I guess either internet is not yet into non-computer related professions or
commercial internet service charge is still too high....

-----------------------------------------
Shi-Yew Chen (Sy)
E-Mail: sychen@enh.nist.gov
WWW: http://www.iia.org/~chens/syhome.htm





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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 04:19:48 -0300
From: gjones@yeti.polarnet.fnsb.ak.us (G. Jones)
Subject: Re: Vocation + paper question

>On Thu, 13 Jul 1995 Molly Haarhoff <mhaarhof@stimpy.acofi.edu> said:
>
>>I would like ideas on how to make a really large crane.  I have made one
>of  4
>>foot square newsprint but I can no longer get newsprint. What sort of glue
>
>>would be best for "constructing" paper.?  I figure wrapping paper or foil
>will
>>be best. And what would be a range of reasonable sizes?  I am not
>interested in
>>a record here, just getting a crane that will display well and be fun for
>a
>>group to make.

I haven't tried folding it yet, but I bought some paper at the local school
supply place,  It is like very heavy construction paper and is about 4 feet
by whatever you want.  I'm not sure for small folds (6 inch paper) but I
bet it would work for a very large fold.  If I am guessing right from my
Dick Blick cataloge I think it is 40-50 lb kraft or poster paper.

Good Luck -- gj





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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 06:00:17 -0300
From: Stefan Gumhold Geomod WS94/95 <sgumhold@gris.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de>
Subject: Re: Vocation

I'am a student in physics and computer science at the University of Tuebingen
Germany. I'm particularly interested in computer programs being able to fold.

By the way from september on I'll study in Boston for a year. Anyone from
Boston on the list ?

Stefan Gumhold
stefan.gumhold@student.uni-tuebingen.de





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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 11:10:45 -0300
From: marmonk@eskimo.com (Mark Morden)
Subject: Vocations

>>>>
>>>> What other vocations do folks on this list have?
>>>
I am a consulting architect.  I specialize in investigating buildings with
problems and figure out how to fix them.  A "building doctor," so to speak.

Largest project to date: Reroofing the Kingdome in Seattle.

Coolest project to date:  Repairing the limestone ornamentation and
gargoyles on the Chicago Tribune Building.

Most nervous project to date:  Riding the window washing scaffolding up and
down the outside of the 84-story Amoco Building, in Chicago.

Strangest project to date: (tie) Investigating the inside of a 100 foot tall
grain silo in Prince Rupert, Canada and having to inspect roofs at the
Hanford Nuclear Reservation in full protective clothing.

Mark Morden == marmonk@mail.eskimo.com
--------------------------------------------------------
I believe in Christianity as I belive in the rising sun;
not because I see it but by it I see all else.
                                           C.S. Lewis





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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 13:58:45 -0300
From: Tim Rueger <rueger@areaplg2.corp.mot.com>
Subject: spam prevention (was Re: french nuclear tests)

>>>>> "jhl" == Jae Hyuk Lee <jaelee@wpi.edu> writes:

    >> I prefer NOT to recieve spams and junk mail in this mailing list.
    >> Please keep your personal **** out of this list!
    >> If you can't do that then I will ask the list maintainer too have you
    >> removed from this *origami* list!

    jhl> It was sent to many different mailing lists.  Just igore it.

This is *not* a solution.  What if *everyone* who wanted to, spammed
*every* mailing list?  You certainly could *NOT* ignore the junk, and
all mailing lists, USENET newsgroups, etc., would become filled with
useless noise.

The solution is to prevent spam at the source, by vigilantly alerting
sysadmins to offenders (as the first person above has suggested - sorry,
I lost the attribution), so that further abuse is prevented.

For any further discussion on this topic, please email me directly and
we'll discuss it off-line from origami-l.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled origami discussions.

ObVocation: I'm an analog IC designer.  Mixed-mode CMOS for sensor
applications and such.  I'm 27.

-Tim
--
Tim Rueger             Motorola CCRL IC Design Laboratory, IL02-2921
Fax  : (708) 538-4593  Internet: rueger@areaplg2.corp.mot.com





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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 14:42:28 -0300
From: REThib@aol.com
Subject: Vocation

I'm a radio producer. I haven't folded in a while, but this list is inspiring
me to get back
into it.

Thanks





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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 15:43:11 -0300
From: wunn@teleport.com (Ric and Nancy Wunn)
Subject: Vocation

I teach computer aided drafting (AutoCAD)in a high school.  I have been
doing origami for about 30+ years off and on.  My big interest is boxes and
modular origami.  I am also working on getting some of our geometry art
teachers to teach it to kids.

Nancy Wunn





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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 16:17:58 -0300
From: LEMIEUXJ@aspen.uml.edu
Subject: Origami Poem English/French

  Master sheets of the Origami Poem were mailed today,
Friday July 14, to all who made a request.

  In the event I might have missed a request or two. Let
me know if you don't receive your copy in about a week.

  Sample cards of various colors were also included.

  Also included was a French version, graciously
translated by Anne-Marie Marcoux at the request
of John Andrisan.

  The French version may, or may not be useful to you.
If you do intend to use the French version realize that
I am not French literate, and EMail does not convey the
special characters required. If anyone does detect an
error let me know and I will correct it and send you a
new copy.

  Enjoy

  Bob
  J. Robert A. Lemieux
  lemieuxj@woods.uml.edu





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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 17:03:12 -0300
From: SharynN@aol.com
Subject: origami vest

OK, Maarten, you now have to tell me how you made this vest.  My production
editor is also a folder, but she specializes in boxes.  (I prefer
representational origami.)  I think she would get a kick out of this.

The last piece I folded before I started knitting in earnest was the origami
Pieta (from THE FLAPPING BIRD, I think).  I brought this in to work and
everyone thought I was insane, especially because I am Jewish.  I gave it to
our managing editor, who is Catholic.  I've actually given tons of paper to
my art director, who uses it on certain covers.  The colors and textures
really spark her mind.  We also published EASY ORIGAMI (Nakano) in paperback.
 I can't say I recommend the book; I folded everything in it and found it
very confusing, but we couldn't revise it.  (It's done very well for us,
though.)   I learned from Oppenheimer/Lewis at age 7 and have been folding
ever since.

Sharyn November

P.S.  Speaking of tesselations (?) -- who has read A WRINKLE IN TIME?  This
is about tesseracts, very wonderful book.  sdn





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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 17:41:07 -0300
From: casida@ere.umontreal.ca (Casida Mark)
Subject: Re: A Wrinkle in Time

> P.S.  Speaking of tesselations (?) -- who has read A WRINKLE IN TIME?  This
> is about tesseracts, very wonderful book.  sdn

I have! I have! when I was _much_ younger (so don't expect me to
remember it all, eh?) and I agree.  I do remember really liking the
explanation about how 2 points which are far apart in 3-dimensions
could be close together in 4-dimensions.  Do I remember hearing
something about designing origami in 4-dimensions?  Who does
this?  Are the final pieces 4-dimensional (hence not foldable by us
mere mortals) or is the 4th dimension a trick to simplify design
at some intermediate stage?

                            ... Mark

--
*-------------------------------------------------------*
|          Mark E. Casida                               |
|          e-mail: casida@chimcn.umontreal.ca           |





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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 22:41:46 -0300
From: Lillian Sun <Lillian_Sun@mail.amsinc.com>
Subject: Re: spam prevention (was Re: french nuclear tests)

          Just a quick question... where did the term "spam" in this
          instance come from?  I don't know the reference.

          As far as vocation, add me to the list of "systems
          analyst"-types out there.  I work for American Management
          Systems in their Fairfax headquarters.

          Cheers,

          Lillian Sun





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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 00:38:22 -0300
From: marmonk@eskimo.com (Mark Morden)
Subject: Robert Lang's Musicians

I recently completed RL's musicians from "The Complete Book of Origami."
What a great feeling to have "mastered" a complex model.

Anyone who would like to tackle these designs and fold the trio, here are
paper sizes that will result in each of the musicians being about the same size.

The Violinist:  9" x 12 3/4"
The Bass Player:  12 1/2" x 15 1/8"
The Pianist:  9 9/16" x 37"

Here is tip for folding the Pianist.  Steps 3-5 seem to be for the purpose
of locating the vertical valley fold in step 6.  If you use the paper size
above, then you can skip those other folds and measure 1 19/32" from the
right edge of the paper.  This will locate the vertical fold without making
an additional 6 folds in the paper.

Happy folding.
Mark Morden == marmonk@mail.eskimo.com
--------------------------------------------------------
I believe in Christianity as I belive in the rising sun;
not because I see it but by it I see all else.
                                           C.S. Lewis





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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 10:19:42 -0300
From: a.mccombs3@genie.geis.com
Subject: Re: Vocation

I restore aircraft and spacecraft for the National Air and Space Museum
(Smithsonian Institution).
