




Date: Sun, 25 Jun 1995 23:13:54 -0300
From: DBSH47B@prodigy.com (MRS. JANET J HAMILTON)
Subject: OUSA Convention

-- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

Well, this isn't going to be a complete convention report, because I
only attended Saturday, but I'm sure others will fill in things that I
forget to mention and add any interesting items from Sunday and Monday.

This convention seemed less frenetic than usual - the volunteers were
calmer with less of the last minute panic.  Since this is the third
year at FIT, maybe they have the routine down pat now.  The model menu
was impressive, and the volunteers demostrated all the action models on
request, including some puppets, a flasher and a flasher deluxe (both
by Jeremy Shafer).  I couldn't schedule either flasher class, but
Jeremy was kind enough to let me borrow the diagrams during a break and
to help me out a little.  He was a little worn out from some late
nights trying to finish the  diagrams for his Starship Enterprise,
which was really nice.  There were some classes on flowers and
arrangements, origami housplants, and using flowers to decorate gifts.
There were some of the annual standards like the butterfly bomb and Rae
Cooker's Strawberry.  A special interest table for money folds was
active during lunch, and Michael LaFosse's video tapes were played in
part of the main room.  I saw someone approach Robert Lang with a
partially complete cuckoo clock and Robert helped him finish it.
Jeannine Mosely was easy to pick out with the boxes of business cards.
She was scheduled to teach some of her modulars - maybe I can make that
one next year!

The displays were spectacular, as usual.  Tom Hull and Chris Palmer(?)
had a large display of tesselations, Robert Lang had his insects and
animals, there was a beautiful floral lei (I can't remember the folder),
 Peter Budai had a amazing array of crests (like family crests - a
shield with a picture), and I was impressed with Micheal LaFosse's frog
(the paper made it look like it was wet).

The new books were grouped together in the Supply Center, which was a
nice touch.  New papers were also grouped together with sample sheets
out so yor could gauge the thickness and feel.  The silent auction area
was in a corner of the supply center - I almost missed it.  There were
some editions of out of print books, shirts, a jigsaw puzzle, and more
that I can't remember.

I ended up in the Origami Tesselations class with Tom Hull.  It was
really interesting to see how he used the origami math that he has been
writing articles about in the OUSA Newsletter (now called The Paper) to
design tesselations that would work.  I also attended a class taught by
Ron Weinstock on folding an ocean liner.  Ron was very patient even
when some latecomers needed extra help to catch up.  Joseph Wu taught a
sold out class for When Pigs Grow Wings and Fly.  The model was
actually easier than it looked, mostly because Joseph took pains to
describe the next fold in words, to use landmarks, and to walk around
the class at any particularly tricky spots.  Surprisingly, there was
another flying pig to be taught Sunday - how odd, two flying pigs in
one year!  I also took the Planes for Brains class, based on Michael
LaFosse's planes in his videotape.  I expected either to see part of
the video and fold with it, but we had some draft diagrams that we
shared around the class and worked our way through them on our own.

I can't report on the evening festivities as I skipped out with my
family to see Grease on Broadway, but when we got back late there were
still a number of people in the lobby of the Alumni Hall, and a large
variety of beautiful Origami jewelry on sale.  I managed to limit
myself to 4 new books, two pairs of earrings, and a few packs of paper.

A couple of other comments:  There were no money folds in the Annual
Collection this year, which was a dissapointment.  All the authors and
model creators were very approachable - even though there was no set
"book signing" time, I did not hear of anyone having a request to sign
a book, or even a model, turned down.  I would still like to see
diagrams given out at classes, at least for models that are not yet
published.

Thanks to all the volunteers and teachers who made the convention
possible.

Janet Hamilton





Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 01:23:49 -0300
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@pipeline.com>
Subject: Thoughts on Origami USA Convention 95

In Outbox: Your outgoing mail marckrsh said:
Subject: Thoughts on Origami USA Convention 95
From: marckrsh

As I am writing this, I realize that the convention is not truly over; COET
is going to be held this Monday. I did think that it would be nice to start
a thread on our experiences this year. I also wanted to make sure that the
list server is still working (no new messages in almost a week!). Here it
goes.

>From an organizational point of view, this year seems to have been the
smoothest; thank you Jan and Tony. Also, credit card acceptance was a great
addition.

The exhibition this year was great (as if we would expect anything less
from V'Ann), but I must admit that I missed the extensive display that our
Japanese guests provided last year.

Perhaps for next year, we should include in the schedule am alloted tome
for sleep; It semms that many of us forgot to participate in this important
activity.

A small complaint; the smileys were a great idea, but thy would me much
better if they were more noticable. I had spoken with a lot of people whose
names were famililiar, but I just didn't make the connection with them to
the internet. We should get a litle more extreme next year, and wear our
designation with pride. Nonetheless, I was great to see so many new and old
faces; It is my favorite aspect of the convention.

On a more emotional perspective, I realized how much I missed Micheal
Shall. His presence has been especialy important to me at conventions, as
he is my strongest tie to the origami past. I always found it exciting to
reminise with him (along with my immediade family) durring convention. This
years convention was certainly a high energy spectacular, but it was with
deep regret that we have lost origami's biggest source of energy. We will
all miss you.

Marc Kirschenbaum





Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 11:08:25 -0300
From: Jay@garter.dhr.com
Subject: New Origami Page!

This last week I added a home page.  Please come and visit it!

        http://www.dhr.com/staff/nolan/nolnhome.htm

J.C. Nolan <jay@dhr.com>
"When people run around and around in circles we say they
are crazy. When planets do it we say they are orbiting."





Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 12:00:46 -0300
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: Paul Jackson Video

   Errors-To: listmgr@nstn.ca
   Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 00:04:27 -0300
   Errors-To: listmgr@nstn.ca
   Reply-To: origami-l@nstn.ca
   Originator: origami-l@nstn.ca
   Sender: origami-l@nstn.ca
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   From: billhall@computek.net (Bill Hall)
   X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas

   >
   >The Paul Jackson video is entitled "ORIGAMI for Children". It can be
   >obtained from Mentor Video Productions Ltd.,
   >              5, Hampton Court,
   >              Alexandra Park Road,
   >              LONDON  N22 4UH                tel: (0181) 888 0531
   >The price is 8.99 pounds + 1.50 pounds postage and packing within the UK.
   >I don't have pricing for export. I also suspect that the video format
   >may not be compatible with North American VCR's. I believe that it is
   >possible to hire equipment to play VHS video tapes in the US & Canada.
   >
   >Richard Kennedy.

   VHS is not the problem. VHS is used almost exclusively here in the US.
   However, TV's there use the NTSC format, while European TV's use PAT. (I
   think I have the initials correct.) At any rate, if you brought a British TV
   to the US, you would not be able to watch any of our TV stations. British
   TV's don't "understand" the US TV signals, or vice versa. In other words,
   they speak different "languages."

   ============================================
   If builders built buildings the way most programmers
   construct programs, the first woodpecker would
   destroy civilization.

   Bill Hall   (billhall@computek.net)   Dallas

The initials for the European television system are actually PAL, but
I don't know what they stand for.  One of the biggest differences
between the two system is that they use a different number of scan
lines per screen.  Highly incompatible!

        -- jeannine





Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 12:30:47 -0300
From: A004773%LBVM1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com
Subject: NO SUBJECT

  >  >> I've updated my home page to include four pictures of models I've
 folded.
  >  >> The url is:
  >  >>     http://reality.sgi.com/employees/pdc/origami.html
  >
  >  I just tried your page via Charlotte (a VM browser) and got to it ok,
  >  but I see no fields that I can click on, i.e., no HTML that Charlotte
  >  can use to get to the picture(s). ??? john

 >> Try now....
 >> --
 >> Paul Close          pdc@sgi.com
 http://reality.sgi.com/employees/pdc/

 Thanks, Paul, I got the GIF files ok this time.  john

 John Andrisan
 IBMMAIL: USMCDQND   Internet: a004773%lbvm1.profs@lbgwy.mdc.com





Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 13:35:19 -0300
From: jls@omg.org (John L. Soley)
Subject:

There is an origami diagram called The Last Waltz. My understanding
is that the BOS booklet number 10 called Neal Elias: Selected Works
includes this work. Does anyone know how I could get my hands on
this issue? It is out of print. Any information would be greatly
appreciated.

John





Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 13:42:38 -0300
From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org>
Subject: Origami convention

I waited two years to fold that rose! Sue Walsh was a fantastic teacher and
really made the rose a cinch to fold. Sue was the one walking around in a
rose costume.

Everything else at the convention was great! I loved all the exhibits
especially the one with all the musicians--the pianist, violinist, dancers,
etc...
But after that rose who cared about anything! :-)

--
Sheldon Ackerman
ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org
sheldon.ackerman@nycps.nycenet.edu





Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 14:08:09 -0300
From: Jennifer.Campbell@CCIW.ca (Jennifer Campbell)
Subject: Re: The Last Waltz

>There is an origami diagram called The Last Waltz. My understanding
>is that the BOS booklet number 10 called Neal Elias: Selected Works
>includes this work. Does anyone know how I could get my hands on
>this issue? It is out of print. Any information would be greatly
>appreciated.
>
>John

Ahhh, memories. This is such an elegant fold. My husband folded The Last
Waltz as a cake decoration for our wedding three years ago (he got the
better deal--I made 125 Kawasaki roses complete with leaves, calyx and
stems). Anyway, I borrowed the book you mentioned from a fellow member of
the Origami Society of Toronto. It is indeed so far out of print (and quite
uncommon) that I really wish you luck finding it. But wait!! I can offer
some assistance... Maybe I shouldn't admit to this but I ph*t*c*pied just
the diagrams for The Last Waltz so I could return the book (its owner was
quite anxious to see it back). If nothing else pans out on the net or in
the corporeal world closer to your home, the diagrams are up here in
Mississauga, Ontario and I could get them to you somehow.
Jennifer.

       /\_/\       ________
     `(     )' oo /        \
       `==='     | Maguro o |
       /   \     |  kudasai |
      |     |     \________/
      |     |
    ___\___/__jennifer.campbell@cciw.ca





Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:12:54 -0300
From: Richard Kennedy <KENNEDRA@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Paul Jackson Video

Ja, jetzt verstehe ich.





Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:22:29 -0300
From: bryan@SGL.ISTS.CA (Bryan Feir)
Subject: NORM Re: Paul Jackson Video

> The initials for the European television system are actually PAL, but
> I don't know what they stand for.  One of the biggest differences
> between the two system is that they use a different number of scan
> lines per screen.  Highly incompatible!

   If anyone cares...

   PAL: Phase Alternating Line.  (The colour information is phase inverted
on every other line so that a simple phase error can be corrected for.)
In France, of coures, it's SECAM: Sequential Couleur a Memoire.  And the
North American system is NTSC: National Televesion Systems Committee.
PAL systems use 625 lines per frame; NTSC use 525.

   Yet more brain cells wasted from my Communications major in University.

---------------------------+---------------------------------------------------
Bryan Feir           VE7GBF|"A landlady may be reduced to her lowest terms by a
bryan@sgl.ists.ca          | series of propositions."
                           |                          -- Stephen Leacock





Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:23:17 -0300
From: Sheila Davis <sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com>
Subject: Copyrights & Use

 Steve Karpf writes:
> There was a recent thread concerning how one gets a copyright.
> But what rights does the copyright protect?
>
        I had a similar question several months ago, and went on a quest
        to find the answer.  Here is my post from last October.

Some time ago I posted a question about the legality and ethics
of selling models.  Someone mentioned the FOCA policy in the back
of the convention programs (thanks to whomever that was).  I
recently received my copy of the 1993 collection and the policy
mentioned is quite clear.  I thought I'd repeat it here for
everyone's benefit.  Note that the legal issues refer only to
US copyright law, but the ethics should apply to everyone on
the list.

A number of issues are covered including charitable work and
exhibitions, but regarding the original question, under the
heading "May I fold some else's model?" and the subtitle
"For commercial use", the entry reads:

"by law yes, as long as you don't use the creator's name for
commercial purposes, but The Friends recommends that you obtain
written permission for the creator."

So it seems it's entirely legal to sell a model you folded
yourself with or without permission, but ethically, you
should obtain the creator's permission first.  And it is
illegal to try to sell something as, for example, "Montroll
Dragonfly" without John Montroll's permission.

        In general, a model cannot be copyrighted, but the diagrams
        and accompanying instructions are.  It's quite legal to take
        someone else's design, work up your own diagrams and publish
        it.  It's extremely unethical--but it is legal.  If two people
        independently develop similar models, there is no problem with
        either ethics or legality, though it might be nice to acknowledge
        the other's work.

Regards,

  Sheila Davis        Hewlett-Packard IC Business Division
 sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com          Fort Collins, Colorado





Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:30:57 -0300
From: Richard Kennedy <KENNEDRA@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Early BOS booklets

A number of BOS members (including myself) are concerned that so many of
the early BOS booklets have never been reprinted. They contained much
excellent material. The originals are still in existence, and some pressure
has been applied via the council to try to encourage reprinting. In the
meantime, it's a case of trying to find a copy, and copy the bits you
want. If you cannot find someone with this booklet in the US, get back to
me and I'll try to track one down in the UK - but the postage costs will
be higher than for a copy located in the US.

Thanks for the message, it should provide some more ammunition in my
efforts to push the booklets team towards reprinting. Are there requests
from other members of origami-l for the Elias BOS booklet, or indeed any
BOS booklets? I do have a full list of the booklets, but I'm too lazy to
type it in tonight. There are facsimiles of pages from Elias's notebooks
in a set of three booklets, but I'm told that these diagrams are not that
easy to work from. As far as I know these booklets are all still available.

Richard Kennedy.





Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:34:03 -0300
From: Jay@garter.dhr.com
Subject: "Creating Origami"

Rona Gurkewiz Wrote...

>Hello,
>     Someone mentioned that there was a book by a Nolan on
> creativity and inventive thinking.
>     Did you write such a book? If so, can you tell me how to
> order it, like who is the publisher?

Yeah Rona, that's me!  Thanks for the inquery.  I was thrilled and overwelmed
by the response to my book at the convention and am very pleased that my
intention in writing the book  (which is to incite and inspire people into
designing their own work) may be fulfilled.

The book is called "Creating Origami - An Exploration into the Process of
Designing Paper Sculpture" and can be purchased mail order though Michael
LaFosse's Company:

        Alexander Blace & Co., Inc.
        170 Margin St.
        Haverhill, MA 01832-5109
        Tel (508) 373-5645, Fax (508) 373-5503

You can also purchase it through OUSA via the Origai Center.  The book sold out
during the convention but another run is due to be printed.

P.S. Anyone out there with the book, I want to know if anyone successfully
completes the "Clown Fish & Anemone", "Frost Dragon" or "Tarantula" either with
or without using cheaters.  To my knowledge, the "Frost Dragon" has never been
completed using a folded base.  I'd intended to try but burned out during the
20 page diagramming process.  MIchael LaFosse sucessesfully folded the
"Tarantula" with the folded base and as far as I know no one has ever folded
the CF&SA though I did it succesfully twice.

J.C. Nolan <jay@dhr.com>
"When people run around and around in circles we say they
are crazy. When planets do it we say they are orbiting."





Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:47:58 -0300
From: Jennifer.Campbell@CCIW.ca (Jennifer Campbell)
Subject: Re: NORM Re: Paul Jackson Video

And now, Richard Kennedy, you understand even more!

>> The initials for the European television system are actually PAL, but
>> I don't know what they stand for.  One of the biggest differences
>> between the two system is that they use a different number of scan
>> lines per screen.  Highly incompatible!
>
>   If anyone cares...
>
>   PAL: Phase Alternating Line.  (The colour information is phase inverted
>on every other line so that a simple phase error can be corrected for.)
>In France, of coures, it's SECAM: Sequential Couleur a Memoire.  And the
>North American system is NTSC: National Televesion Systems Committee.
>PAL systems use 625 lines per frame; NTSC use 525.
>
>   Yet more brain cells wasted from my Communications major in University.
>
>---------------------------+---------------------------------------------------
>Bryan Feir           VE7GBF|"A landlady may be reduced to her lowest terms by a
>bryan@sgl.ists.ca          | series of propositions."
>                           |                          -- Stephen Leacock
>---------------------------+---------------------------------------------------

       /\_/\       ________
     `(     )' oo /        \
       `==='     | Maguro o |
       /   \     |  kudasai |
      |     |     \________/
      |     |
    ___\___/__jennifer.campbell@cciw.ca





Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 18:44:30 -0300
From: chiug@cognos.com (Grace Chiu)
Subject: Re: Can. Customs update:duty-...

>Grace....
>      What is Rickard's Red? I'm a beer snob and hadn't heard of this one
>last time I was in The Great White North...Samples will be greatly
>appreciated. Anything you'd like to trade???
>
>Steve Buck
>
Hi, Steve...

Sorry I didn't get online since your posting.  I left for NY on Tuesday a.m.
Rickard's Red is a red/dark beer.  It's similar in colour to Killian's but
a touch more bitter.  It's been sold only on draft and has only recently
been available in bottles -- but not cans, otherwise I would've brought
more.  Actually, all the beer got drank before the weekend.  %^P...

I'll be sure to bring more next time...

As for trading things, see my next post cuz I'm listing a buncha things I
couldn't source at the convention that I'm still lookin' for.





Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 20:20:08 -0300
From: chiug@cognos.com (Grace Chiu)
Subject: Re: Origami convention

Sheldon wrote:
>I waited two years to fold that rose! Sue Walsh was a fantastic teacher and
>really made the rose a cinch to fold. Sue was the one walking around in a
>rose costume.
>
That looked cool.  I wanted to try it but was remedially busy with Marc's
bear all Sunday afternoon.  Are there electronic or hard copy instructions
for Sue's rose?  If so, could someone send them to me?

Grace
---
Grace Chiu, Enslavened Manager, Technology Support Services,
Cognos Inc.: Rubberneckers on the Information Super-Dirt Road
Ottawa, ON 1-800-365-3968, ext. 3218.





Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 23:36:47 -0300
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@pipeline.com>
Subject: Ultimate paper?

As with most origamists, I am always in search of a better folding
material. Back in '86, Robert Lang turned me on to tissue-foil (aluminum
foil backed with tissue paper via spray adhesive), which vastly expanded
the limits of what a folding material could handle. I could now create
ultra complex models, and not worry about being able to shape the model in
the end. While the foil gave my models an unusual irridesance, they still
looked flimsy.

Peter Engle seemed to have an answer to this problem. Through the use of
fancier and slightly thicker handmade papers (such as the Japanese Unryu
variety), foil backed models could now have the rich look of a wet folded
model, while having a greater level of flexibility in the shaping stage.
Apparently, the foil content could still easily support the thicker papers.
There is still a problem with this paper preparation; the level of
permanency leaves much to be desired. Thicker appendages are fine, but
anything less than a few layers thick can be easily dented. I am only able
to put up with this, as I am usually the one who sets up my origami
displays.

At the recent Origami USA convention, I got some inspiration from Courtney
Spooner on a workaround to this problem. She convinced me to try out paper
infused with  methyl celluose (a natural thickener). The resulting paper
was very good, but not as easy to shape in it's dry state when compared to
the foil based variety. Courtney made one comment that started me to think
about varoius possibilities. She said that the methyl cellulose paste could
not be used to bind paper to foil. This made sense, as foil is non pourus,
and will not take to the past. Why not add the past to a completed model
(or almost completed, as that might be easier)? My big concern with this is
to avoid the glossy look that results from saturating the paper with paste
(I hate shiny animal). has anyone tried adding methyl cellulose to a foil
backed model? If so, how did it work out, and what was the best way of
eliminating the excess paste? I am awaiting your suggestions.

Marc Kirschenbaum





Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 23:39:23 -0300
From: ACPQUINN@myriad.middlebury.edu
Subject: RE: last waltz

John --
I bought that issue before it went out of print.  I would be glad to invoke
my usual rule about distributing diagrams, which is as follows:

send me a mail message.
I will respond with my snail-mail address
you may send me a SASE and $1.00 to cover copying costs.

that's it.

While I am writing this, I will also mention that this offer still stands for
any of my previous models that have been diagrammed, as well as the
"Zig-Zag Bracelet" which I taught (to one lucky individual, due to the heated
competition between my class and a Marc Kirschenbaum class _and_ a Jeremy
Shafer class) at the 95 Convention.

Alasdair Post-Quinn
acpquinn@myriad.middlebury.edu





Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 23:41:00 -0300
From: ACPQUINN@myriad.middlebury.edu
Subject: RE: "Creating Origami"

I was one of the lucky people who picked up J.C. Nolan's new book. While I
bought it essentially for "the technology" as J.C. put it, i.e. the unusual new
folding methods, I'm sure the 1/3 of the book that is text will be equally
interesting.  I know one person who tried the CF&SA but gave up when he hit the
octagonal sinks.  Another person told me it might be easier to simply fold a
square into 16 bird bases before attempting the model, or simply collapse from
that point (leaving one corner square unfolded, of course, for the fish).  I
am a bit folded out, and have other work to do, so I will probably wait a while
before attempting this incredible model.  I'll inform the group when I succeed,
though :)
Alasdair
acpquinn@myriad.middlebury.edu





Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 23:42:43 -0300
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@pipeline.com>
Subject: COET 95

Unfortunately, I was unable to attend this year's COET. I am interested in
hearing about what happened over there. Thank you.

Marc





Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 01:12:12 -0300
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@pipeline.com>
Subject: RE: "Creating Origami"

On Mon, 26 Jun 1995 ACPQUINN@myriad.middlebury.edu said:

>I was one of the lucky people who picked up J.C. Nolan's new book. While I

>bought it essentially for "the technology" as J.C. put it, i.e. the
unusual new
>folding methods, I'm sure the 1/3 of the book that is text will be equally

>interesting.  I know one person who tried the CF&SA but gave up when he
hit the
>octagonal sinks.  Another person told me it might be easier to simply fold
a
>square into 16 bird bases before attempting the model, or simply collapse
from
>that point (leaving one corner square unfolded, of course, for the fish).

The best description for this model is a *Jackstone on steroids with a
fish.* I figured that since much of the model has to be unfolded anywayfor
the octagonal sinks, I may as well colloapse the model from scratch(the
folding pattern should become apparent. My rational ws that leaving the
points around the perimiter folded only got in the way, so with that line
of logic, I decided to collapse the model from the center outwards. After
forming the center point, your model will resemble a salt cellar. Each of
the cellars can then be sunk upwards. As for the rest, I just (simply?)
followed the creases.While I am not that crazy about the anemone part of
the model (better folding sequences exist for simmilar models), the
combination of the anemone with the excelent fish makes this one of the
most refreshingly original models that I have seen in a while. Great job
Jay.

Marc





Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 05:50:16 -0300
From: Shai Seger <SHAIS@evs.elbit.co.il>
Subject: Quest for the Magic hat

Ten years ago I saw a very special fold on TV:
It looks like a simple cylinder hat, however when you press on its sides,
a rabbit pops out.
Can anyone tell me where can I find diagrams for this fold???

Shai.
shais@evs.elbit.co.il





Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 09:13:18 -0300
From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org>
Subject: Origami convention

>
> > That looked cool.  I wanted to try it but was remedially busy with Marc's
> > bear all Sunday afternoon.  Are there electronic or hard copy instructions
> > for Sue's rose?  If so, could someone send them to me?
>
 Did you see Marc's exhibit at the convention? Twas great!
 And don't call his model a bear! Anyone can fold a bear. This was a
 FLUFFY. The model on display certainly looked fluffy. Loved that
 paper.
 (Marc, are the instructions published yet?) If not for that rose that
 I had been waiting two years to complete, your b... fluffy was my
 next choice :-)

--
Sheldon Ackerman
ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org
sheldon.ackerman@nycps.nycenet.edu





Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 09:14:08 -0300
From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org>
Subject: Origami convention

>
> > Sheldon wrote:
> > >I waited two years to fold that rose! Sue Walsh was a fantastic teacher and
> > >really made the rose a cinch to fold. Sue was the one walking around in a
> > >rose costume.
> > >
> > That looked cool.  I wanted to try it but was remedially busy with Marc's
> > bear all Sunday afternoon.  Are there electronic or hard copy instructions
> > for Sue's rose?  If so, could someone send them to me?
>
 It's not Sue's rose! Do you want to be sued! :-)
 I think it's Kasahara's or Kawasaki's rose. I don't know how much good the
 instructions will do you. I had them for two years. I had no problem
 folding the crease pattern but that was it. Sue made it a cinch!
 I no longer have a set of the instructions but I am sure someone will
 state the name of the book where you can find it. It is a really
 wonderful model. Sue had us make a leaf and a calyx. She then
 supplied us with florist's wire and tape. We then had the rose
 wrapped in celephane and affixed a ribbon to it. My wife flipped when
 I presented it to her.

--
Sheldon Ackerman
ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org
sheldon.ackerman@nycps.nycenet.edu





Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 10:47:25 -0300
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: Early BOS booklets

Richard Kennedy writes:

                                                         Are there requests
   from other members of origami-l for the Elias BOS booklet, or indeed any
   BOS booklets? I do have a full list of the booklets, but I'm too lazy to
   type it in tonight. There are facsimiles of pages from Elias's notebooks
   in a set of three booklets, but I'm told that these diagrams are not that
   easy to work from. As far as I know these booklets are all still available.

I would like as many as I could get.  Please, reprint!

        -- jeannine mosely





Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 11:06:26 -0300
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: Quest for the Magic hat

Shai writes:

   Ten years ago I saw a very special fold on TV:
   It looks like a simple cylinder hat, however when you press on its sides,
   a rabbit pops out.
   Can anyone tell me where can I find diagrams for this fold???

   Shai.
   shais@evs.elbit.co.il

This model is folded from a dollar bill.  The instructions are in a
booklet called "Bunny Bill", available from Origami USA.  I bought a
copy at the convention this weekend.  I think I paid 3.50 for it, but
I'm not surse.  Write to OUSA for a catalog.

        -- jeannine (j9@concentra.com)





Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 11:57:47 -0300
From: Jennifer.Campbell@CCIW.ca (Jennifer Campbell)
Subject: Origami Lobster Anxiety

Help!
I've just spent a frustrating coffee break here at work fighting with steps
7-8 of John Montroll's lobster from "Animal Origami for the Enthusiast".
I've successfully made 5 lobsters before, but that was about 2 years ago.
I'm under the gun to get this one done by Friday for a gift and I'm
starting to despair of ever getting past step 7-8. My beautiful, expensive
piece of 18" red silk paper is starting to look mutilated and I'm starting
to lose my mind (or certainly my concentration on my real job).

My Montroll books are scribbled with hints and sketches that I find helpful
for future attempts, but I've got nothing written at step 7-8, implying
that I sailed through it joyfully the last few times...Is there's anyone
out there who's made the lobster and can offer me some words of
encouragement? I realize it would be easier to talk a non-pilot through the
landing of a jet airplane in the fog than explain the lobster with just
words but I'm desperate. The diamond-shaped piece that's supposed to be
valley-folded in step 7 doesn't seem free to do so. And all those folds in
step 8 to swing the flap around--they don't seem do-able without turning
the works inside-out and crumpling it. Hopefully, I'll regret posting this
after lunch time, when I'll have progressed past step 25, but somehow I
doubt it. This is serious origami anxiety!
P.S. It's me with the problem, not the diagrams.
Thanks for listening.

       /\_/\       ________
     `(     )' oo /        \
       `==='     | Maguro o |
       /   \     |  kudasai |
      |     |     \________/
      |     |
    ___\___/__jennifer.campbell@cciw.ca





Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 12:24:34 -0300
From: "Mr B.R. Stephens" <bruce@liverpool.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Origami Lobster Anxiety

> words but I'm desperate. The diamond-shaped piece that's supposed to be
> valley-folded in step 7 doesn't seem free to do so. And all those folds in
> step 8 to swing the flap around--they don't seem do-able without turning
> the works inside-out and crumpling it. Hopefully, I'll regret posting this
> after lunch time, when I'll have progressed past step 25, but somehow I
> doubt it. This is serious origami anxiety!

(This is John Montroll's lobster in Animal Origami for the Masochist.)
I think I know the step you mean, and I've not found a nice way to do
it either.  Mine always ends up rather crumpled.  With practice you can
reduce the crumpling, but that's it as far as I can see.

--
Bruce                   Institute of Advanced Scientific Computation
bruce@liverpool.ac.uk   University of Liverpool





Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 16:11:00 -0300
From: Jennifer.Campbell@CCIW.ca (Jennifer Campbell)
Subject: Origami Lobster Anxiety Resolved

>> words but I'm desperate. The diamond-shaped piece that's supposed to be
>> valley-folded in step 7 doesn't seem free to do so. And all those folds in
>> step 8 to swing the flap around--they don't seem do-able without turning
>> the works inside-out and crumpling it. Hopefully, I'll regret posting this
>> after lunch time, when I'll have progressed past step 25, but somehow I
>> doubt it. This is serious origami anxiety!
>
>(This is John Montroll's lobster in Animal Origami for the Masochist.)
>I think I know the step you mean, and I've not found a nice way to do
>it either.  Mine always ends up rather crumpled.  With practice you can
>reduce the crumpling, but that's it as far as I can see.
>
>--
>Bruce                   Institute of Advanced Scientific Computation
>bruce@liverpool.ac.uk   University of Liverpool

Thank you Bruce Stephens, for responding so quickly to my distress call
with exactly what I wanted to hear. When I heard that you also think that
the step is "not nice" and  involves crumpling, I crumpled away (ever so
gently) and now am happy to report that I am indeed at step 25, right on
schedule. Luckily my red silk paper is rather forgiving and fabric-like and
it is very humid here, so any crumpling was easily undone.
My boss says it will be a miracle when either of us do anything
work-related on the Internet. But I think alleviating my origami lobster
anxiety will definitely allow me to perform my job better this afternoon.
"Animal Origami for the Masochist"--I love it!!
Best regards.

       /\_/\       ________
     `(     )' oo /        \
       `==='     | Maguro o |
       /   \     |  kudasai |
      |     |     \________/
      |     |
    ___\___/__jennifer.campbell@cciw.ca





Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 16:16:02 -0300
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: NORM Re: Paul Jackson Video

> North American system is NTSC: National Televesion Systems Committee.

Actually, anyone who's ever worked in the TV industry knows that NTSC stands
for "Never Twice the Same Color" <g>.

Robert





Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 16:17:08 -0300
From: DBSH47B@prodigy.com (MRS. JANET J HAMILTON)
Subject: Fwd: Re: Early BOS booklets

-- [ From: Janet Hamilton * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

------- FORWARD, Original message follows -------

Date: Tuesday, 27-Jun-95 01:44 PM

From: Janet Hamilton           \ PRODIGY:     (DBSH47B)

Subject: Re: Early BOS booklets

-------- REPLY, Original message follows --------

> Date: Tuesday, 27-Jun-95 09:50 AM
>
> From: Jeannine Mosely          \ Internet:    (j9@concentra.com)
> To:   Janet Hamilton           \ PRODIGY:     (DBSH47B)
>
> Subject: Re: Early BOS booklets
>
> Richard Kennedy writes:
>
>                                                          Are there
> requests
>    from other members of origami-l for the Elias BOS booklet, or
indeed
> any
>    BOS booklets? I do have a full list of the booklets, but I'm too
lazy
> to
>    type it in tonight. There are facsimiles of pages from Elias's
> notebooks
>    in a set of three booklets, but I'm told that these diagrams are
not
> that
>    easy to work from. As far as I know these booklets are all still
> available.
>
> I would like as many as I could get.  Please, reprint!
>
>         -- jeannine mosely
>
>
>

-------- REPLY, End of original message --------

I'd be interested in that list of the BOS booklets.

Janet

------- FORWARD, End of original message -------





Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 16:17:41 -0300
From: Richard Kennedy <KENNEDRA@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: NORM Re: Paul Jackson Video

But my japanese is not of a sufficient standard to reply appropriately
to your cat. I wonder what TV standard the Japanese use? Please don't reply!

Richard.





Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 16:48:12 -0300
From: Richard Kennedy <KENNEDRA@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Early BOS booklets

I guess I'm going to have to bite the bullet and type in the whole list,
then I hope you'll give an indication of which you'll buy when (if?)
they are reprinted. Cash flow may be a factor in getting this exercise
off the ground, as far as the BOS are concerned.

Richard Kennedy.





Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 17:22:29 -0300
From: Mary Jane Heussner <rgtmjh@gsusgi2.Gsu.EDU>
Subject: Re: your mail

On Mon, 26 Jun 1995, John L. Soley wrote:

> There is an origami diagram called The Last Waltz. My understanding
> is that the BOS booklet number 10 called Neal Elias: Selected Works
> includes this work. Does anyone know how I could get my hands on
> this issue? It is out of print. Any information would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> John
>
Hi John,

I have this book which is a great one.   I also took the "Last Waltz"
class at the convention--the diagrams in the book are just fine, but I'm
so lazy, I wanted someone else to cut the 2x1 rectangle, give me some
very nice two sided foil, and say OK fold it, now you have no excuse!
Roz Joyce did an excellent job teaching it.  She did announce, however,
that the book is out of print and apparently  BOS doesn't have anymore.
She could not hand out the diagrams to people who don't have them because
of the copyright problems...so there's you're answer.

Mary Jane





Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 05:03:20 -0300
From: bruno@ccaix.ibm.fr (Bruno DESTREZ - Stagiaire)
Subject: Re: NORM Re: Paul Jackson Video

>
> > North American system is NTSC: National Televesion Systems Committee.
>
> Actually, anyone who's ever worked in the TV industry knows that NTSC stands
> for "Never Twice the Same Color" <g>.
>
> Robert
>
>
That's right, beleive the best system is SECAM, and i don't say that because
     i'm french!

Bruno





Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 05:04:47 -0300
From: Shai Seger <SHAIS@evs.elbit.co.IL>
Subject: Bunny Bill

Thank you jeannine, Thank you Bob, for your fast response.

shai.
shais@evs.elbit.co.il





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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 10:14:09 -0300
From: "Londono, Juancarlos (3421)" <J.LONDONO@CGNET.COM>
Subject: Ooops   *********************** ZEN

Do you remember this message written on June 16?

>  Hello, I'm a new listmember living in Cali, Colombia, South America.
>  I would like to get addresses where I could order books and paper. Or if
any of you could help me, please let me know.
>  I would also like to know about the copyrighting figures. I have only
design a few and would like to find out if anyone else has already
>  registered them. Could someone please help me with this?
>  THANKS A LOT for any help you can give me.

SORRY!
I forgot to include my address
J.LONDONO@CGNET.COM

I'm very interested to know (read) more about ZEN-Origami. Could you please
send me some references/books/attachments
about it?

I'll really appreciatte it.





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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 10:51:37 -0300
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.COM>
Subject: Re: Early BOS booklets

Richard,
        Thanks for the info.  I would very much like to have old BOS booklets.
Considering that the only ones I have seen are B&W, production costs shouldn't
be too bad.  Heck, OUSA puts out books, maybe they could collaborate in some
way.  At least in making them available in the US!!

Thanks,

    -Doug "Is it time to sleep yet?" Philips





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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 11:12:03 -0300
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: Early BOS booklets

+I guess I'm going to have to bite the bullet and type in the whole list,
+then I hope you'll give an indication of which you'll buy when (if?)
+they are reprinted. Cash flow may be a factor in getting this exercise
+off the ground, as far as the BOS are concerned.

Richard,
    If I had the list, and a guarantee, I might be willing to prepay on the
    order, if a delivery/printing schedule were also set out.

    Or, you could bundle them, either by subject or number (or whatever), and
    let Dover reprint them 10 (or n) at a time!  You won't make much money
    that way, but Dover seems to be good at keeping origami stuff in print,
    and inexpensively too!

    -Doug





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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 20:02:30 -0300
From: jpolish@usa.pipeline.com (Jan Polish)
Subject: Re: Re: Early BOS booklets

On Wed, 28 Jun 1995, 'Doug Philips' said:

>+I guess I'm going to have to bite the bullet and type in the whole list,
>+then I hope you'll give an indication of which you'll buy when (if?)
>+they are reprinted. Cash flow may be a factor in getting this exercise
>+off the ground, as far as the BOS are concerned.
>
>Richard,
>If I had the list, and a guarantee, I might be willing to prepay on the
>order, if a delivery/printing schedule were also set out.
>
>Or, you could bundle them, either by subject or number (or whatever), and
>let Dover reprint them 10 (or n) at a time!  You won't make much money
>that way, but Dover seems to be good at keeping origami stuff in print,
>and inexpensively too!
>
>-Doug
>
>.

Hi ... I'm back from Convention (I have to stay at the dorms until the last
sponsored night .... sigh) and can respond to a few things. We (as in
Origami USA) have been trying to negotiate with BOS for several years now
for reprint rights. Martin Wall (who is the Supplies Secty of BOS and was
at our convention) says that he will make certain that is addressed at the
next BOS council meeting he attends.

We would love to obtain master art and reprint here, avoiding shipping
costs and therefore keeping the price down, and paying royalties to the BOS
and the author. Reprinting here would also improve the logistics of getting
the materials here, which seems to take eons right now. Maybe Nick Robinson
(hi, Nick) could also push for this at the Council meeting.

We get tremendous numbers of requests for out-of-print BOS pamphlets,
especially the Elias one.

Jan Polish
jpolish@usa.pipeline.com





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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 20:12:06 -0300
From: jpolish@usa.pipeline.com (Jan Polish)
Subject: Re: Re: Paul Jackson Video

>>
>>The Paul Jackson video is entitled "ORIGAMI for Children". It can be
>>obtained from Mentor Video Productions Ltd.,
>>              5, Hampton Court,
>>              Alexandra Park Road,
>>              LONDON  N22 4UH                tel: (0181) 888 0531
>>The price is 8.99 pounds + 1.50 pounds postage and packing within the UK.

>>I don't have pricing for export. I also suspect that the video format
>>may not be compatible with North American VCR's. I believe that it is
>>possible to hire equipment to play VHS video tapes in the US & Canada.
>>
>>Richard Kennedy.
>

I seem to recall Paul Jackson telling me that the video is also available
in US format ... it's worth asking about. Now that Origami USA has broken
the ice and started carrying videos, we'll be looking into adding this one,
too, but I suspect it will be a while. .....

Jan Polish
jpolish@usa.pipeline.com





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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 23:56:50 -0300
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Convention Thanks!

I got back from the convention tuesday night, and I think it will take me a
month to recover!  To say it was wonderful and great and .... would be an
understatement.  I'll post my impressions and "report' later, but I wanted
to thank everyone who made this year's convention a rip roaring success!  I
was going to name names, but well, I've forgotten many of them and I didn't
want to slight anyone by that forgetfulness.

So to everyone who helped out, many of whom I am sure I never saw or met:

####### #     #    #    #     # #    #   #####    ###     ###     ###     ###
   #    #     #   # #   ##    # #   #   #     #   ###     ###     ###     ###
   #    #     #  #   #  # #   # #  #    #         ###     ###     ###     ###
   #    ####### #     # #  #  # ###      #####     #       #       #       #
   #    #     # ####### #   # # #  #          #
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   #    #     # #     # #    ## #   #   #     #   ###     ###     ###     ###
   #    #     # #     # #     # #    #   #####    ###     ###     ###     ###

####### #     #    #    #     # #    #   #####    ###     ###     ###     ###
   #    #     #   # #   ##    # #   #   #     #   ###     ###     ###     ###
   #    #     #  #   #  # #   # #  #    #         ###     ###     ###     ###
   #    ####### #     # #  #  # ###      #####     #       #       #       #
   #    #     # ####### #   # # #  #          #
   #    #     # #     # #    ## #   #   #     #   ###     ###     ###     ###
   #    #     # #     # #     # #    #   #####    ###     ###     ###     ###

I had a great time, and I'd especially like to thank the four folks (you know
who you are) who took me under their wing for my first day.  You got me
started on the right foot and I really appreciate it.

-Doug "I *can't* sleep now even though I *want* to" Philips





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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 02:04:09 -0300
From: CToddR@aol.com
Subject: Re: Early BOS booklets

Add my voice to the chorus.  Please reprint!

-- Todd Reichart





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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 03:10:47 -0300
From: LEMIEUXJ@aspen.uml.edu
Subject: RE: Re: Early BOS booklets

Add my name to the list, if there is one.
Please reprint early BOS booklets!

Bob
J. Robert A. Lemieux
lemieuxj@woods.uml.edu





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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 10:14:21 -0300
From: chiug@cognos.com (Grace Chiu)
Subject: Re: Origami convention/Fluffy

Sheldon wrote:
>> > That looked cool.  I wanted to try it but was remedially busy with Marc's
>> > bear all Sunday afternoon.  Are there electronic or hard copy instructions
>> > for Sue's rose?  If so, could someone send them to me?
>>
> Did you see Marc's exhibit at the convention? Twas great!
> And don't call his model a bear! Anyone can fold a bear. This was a
> FLUFFY. The model on display certainly looked fluffy. Loved that
> paper.
> (Marc, are the instructions published yet?) If not for that rose that
> I had been waiting two years to complete, your b... fluffy was my
> next choice :-)

As Marc knows, my Fluffy didn't fluff.  Because of an early screw-up, my
Fluffy ended up with a jet pack on his back.  Still trying again ...

Grace
---
Grace Chiu, Enslavened Manager, Technology Support Services,
Cognos Inc.: Rubberneckers on the Information Super-Dirt Road
Ottawa, ON 1-800-365-3968, ext. 3218.





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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 11:00:34 -0300
From: chiug@cognos.com (Grace Chiu)
Subject: Canadian Tire Money .. cheap bill folds

Yesterday, I ran out of real money and started folding shirts and peacocks
with Canadian Tire money.  For you foreigners... Canadian Tire is a major
chain of automotive supply stores; actually, they've become more like a
K-mart because you can get everything there (Nintendo cartridges, patio
furniture, sports gear, kitchenware, gasoline, ...).  When you pay with cash
or debit card, you get around 4% of your purchase back in Canadian Tire
money.  These are bills in denominations of 5, 10, 25, 50 cents and 1
dollar, all in %lovely% pastel colours.  I've seen people buy lawnmowers and
toaster ovens with this stuff.  They look and feel just like regular
currency, but a bit narrower.  The weight is good and strong too.  And most
Canadians have amassed loads of this stuff in their glove compartments.

If anyone wants to try some, send me some of your lower-denominationed
currency, a piece of cool paper or a cool fold in exchange... I'll give you
a good exchange rate :^)   (My home address is on the OUSA members list from
Convention).

Grace

---
Grace Chiu, Enslavened Manager, Technology Support Services,
Cognos Inc.: Rubberneckers on the Information Super-Dirt Road
Ottawa, ON 1-800-365-3968, ext. 3218.





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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 13:07:18 -0300
From: Jennifer.Campbell@CCIW.ca (Jennifer Campbell)
Subject: Re: Canadian Tire Money .. cheap bill folds

On June 29, Grace Chiu gave us an interesting suggestion for money folds:

>Yesterday, I ran out of real money and started folding shirts and peacocks
>with Canadian Tire money.
.........................
These are bills in denominations of 5, 10, 25, 50 cents and 1
>dollar, all in %lovely% pastel colours.  I've seen people buy lawnmowers and
toaster ovens with this stuff.
.........................
And most
>Canadians have amassed loads of this stuff in their glove compartments.
>
>If anyone wants to try some, send me some of your lower-denominationed
>currency, a piece of cool paper or a cool fold in exchange... I'll give you
>a good exchange rate :^)   (My home address is on the OUSA members list from
>Convention).
>

This is a neat idea, Grace! I loved the statement that most Canadians have
amassed loads of it in the glove compartment. I keep mine in the house
actually but my friend had her car broken into and all they took was her
Canadian Tire money from the glove compartment! (perhaps they were looking
for something better?) Yes, it's practially legal tender and it's even
produced by the same company that prints the real money. And soon it will
be all we can fold with, since they've changed our $1 to coin and soon the
$2 as well.
But Grace, if you surrender your C.T. money how will you buy your next
toaster oven or lawnmower?

       /\_/\       ________
     `(     )' oo /        \
       `==='     | Maguro o |
       /   \     |  kudasai |
      |     |     \________/
      |     |
    ___\___/__jennifer.campbell@cciw.ca





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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 15:17:17 -0300
From: Bonnie McBride <bmcbride@leroy.cc.uregina.ca>
Subject: Re: Early BOS booklets

>Add my voice to the chorus.  Please reprint!
>
>-- Todd Reichart

Me Too!!

Bonnie McBride A.Sc.T.
email: bmcbride@leroy.cc.uregina.ca





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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 15:54:40 -0300
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <contract@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: Early BOS booklets

On Thu, 29 Jun 1995 Bonnie McBride <bmcbride@leroy.cc.uregina.ca> said:

>>Add my voice to the chorus.  Please reprint!
>>
>>-- Todd Reichart
>

Me too (mine fell apart already)





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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 17:14:39 -0300
From: ACPQUINN@myriad.middlebury.edu
Subject: Re: Early BOS booklets

What the heck, I'll support the effort (I have the list of old booklets and it\
looks pretty nice)

Alasdair Post-Quinn
acpquinn@myriad.middlebury.edu





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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 20:06:26 -0300
From: dragon@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
Subject: Re: Early BOS booklets

Add me to that list.  I would be interested in the BOS booklets as well.
Thanks.
Lynda Hayashi

On Thu, 29 Jun 1995, Marc Kirschenbaum wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Jun 1995 Bonnie McBride <bmcbride@leroy.cc.uregina.ca> said:
>
>
> >>Add my voice to the chorus.  Please reprint!
> >>
> >>-- Todd Reichart
> >
>
> Me too (mine fell apart already)





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Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 08:25:57 -0300
From: tron!nort.bwi.wec.com!DEWEY.D.M-_at_BALT.PO.020@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Re[2]: Early BOS booklets

If this isn't a band wagon to follow, I don't know what is! *Me too* please.

                                                Thanks,
                                                Dave Dewey
______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Re: Early BOS booklets
Author:  uunet!nstn.ca!origami-l@tron.bwi.wec.com at BALT.SMTP
Date:    06/29/95 07:03 PM

Add me to that list.  I would be interested in the BOS booklets as well.
Thanks.
Lynda Hayashi

On Thu, 29 Jun 1995, Marc Kirschenbaum wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Jun 1995 Bonnie McBride <bmcbride@leroy.cc.uregina.ca> said:
>
>
> >>Add my voice to the chorus.  Please reprint!
> >>
> >>-- Todd Reichart
> >
>
> Me too (mine fell apart already)





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Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 10:06:44 -0300
From: bleu@prometheus.hol.gr (Dimmis Petrides)
Subject: Re: Early BOS booklets

I will like to be added to the list please.
Here in Greece is like a desert about origami

regards from sunny Greece

Dimmis Petrides
Graphic Designer HND
bleu@prometheus.hol.gr





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Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 10:20:21 -0300
From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: Early BOS booklets

>
> I will like to be added to the list please.
> Here in Greece is like a desert about origami
What's this BOS thingie that everyone is me tooing? I must have missed that
original post? Should I "me too" it as well?

--
Sheldon Ackerman
ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org
sheldon.ackerman@nycps.nycenet.edu





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Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 10:53:00 -0300
From: "Mr B.R. Stephens" <bruce@liverpool.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Early BOS booklets

ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org writes
> What's this BOS thingie that everyone is me tooing? I must have missed that
> original post? Should I "me too" it as well?

Please don't.  It's about the large number of BOS booklets (typically
A5, 30 pages or so) which are currently unavailable.  I think everybody
would like them to become available.  My preference would be to let Dover
publish them in blocks: I'd pay 10 or 20 pounds for a decent sized book
of folds, regardless of what's in it.

--
Bruce                   Institute of Advanced Scientific Computation
bruce@liverpool.ac.uk   University of Liverpool





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Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 13:39:43 -0300
From: Cyrene Slegona <slegona@saturn.caps.maine.edu>
Subject: Re: Early BOS booklets

Me too on the BOS vote.
