




Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 15:36:15 -0300
From: Yusri Johan <gs01yyj@panther.Gsu.EDU>
Subject: Re: WET FOLD

You (Bill Hall) wrote:
>
> What's all this talk about wet folding? I've been folding for about 15 years
> and have never run across it, but I admit that I haven't been really in
> touch with the origami community for the past five or six years.
>
> How do you do it, and what does it accomplish? Where can I find out more
> about it?
>
> Bill Hall
>

Before I answer your question Bill,  I will answer the question of where
about the musk ox model is.  The musk ox model can be found  in John
Montroll's latest origami book "North American Animals in Origami."  The
musk ox is a creation of Fumiaki Kawahata along with three other models
in that book.

Now, about wet folding.  The technique's name indicated that you have to
actually wet the paper while folding it.  Wet folding doesn't always work
for all types of paper.  The trick is to experiment it with different
types of paper.  Wet folding is very helpful in folding a model with
multiple layers or a model that requires sculpturing.  It will give a
different kind of effect on the model that you fold.

The question now is how much do you need to wet the paper.  It depends on
the type of the paper.  The trick is to wet the paper so it's not too
soft, but just enough for you to fold the paper without ripping it.  You
can wet the paper by using damp-cloth or damp-sponge (sometimes I use wet
cotton ball to wet the paper especially if don't want to wet a large
area of the paper) on an shallow oblong tray.  You can wet the paper
before you start folding or while you are folding.

Wet folding has been mentioned in several origami books.  Several of
Montroll latest books (including North American Animals in Origami, I
believe) have a brief discussion on Wet folding.  Origami Sea Life also
has a discussion on this topic.  I think there is one section in Peter
Engel's "Origami from Angelfish to Zen" that talks about wet folding.

Hope this helps.
----
Yusri Johan (gs01yyj@panther.gsu.edu)
Georgia State University
http://www2.gsu.edu/~gs01yyj/home.html
Origami Page: http://www2.gsu.edu/~gs01yyj/origami/origami.html





Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 17:29:51 -0300
From: billhall@computek.net (Bill Hall)
Subject: Re: WET FOLD

Thanks for the answers about wet folding. I guess I'll just have to try it.
And maybe buy one of the mentioned books.

================================================
Hey, just because I _look_ dumb doesn't mean I'm _not_!
Bill Hall (billhall@computek.net) Dallas





Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 11:36:35 -0300
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.COM>
Subject: Re: post-its, color fading & ...

Yes, the major advantage of Postit pads for modular origami,
if you object to built-in glue, is that you usually don't have to
buy them yourself ;-) and there's usually lots lying around in
conference rooms when you get stuck in a boring meeting...

--valerie





Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 11:39:28 -0300
From: Josh Kifer <kiferj@elwha.evergreen.edu>
Subject: origami jets

Anyone know where I can find some diagrams for air force/navy jets,
helicopters, U.S. or otherwise?  Thanks... :)

josh





Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 11:40:36 -0300
From: Richard Kennedy <KENNEDRA@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: WET FOLD

I think one of your messages said you had been given some references to
descriptions of wet folding in books. Do you think you could post them?
I keep hearing about wet folding, and I've seen some impressive examples of
what can be achieved (not least Robert Lang's display at the BOS
convention), but I don't know where to start.

With thanks,

Richard K.





Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 11:41:25 -0300
From: Joseph Wu <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Re: Not going to Convention? Check this out

On Mon, 15 May 1995, Grace Chiu wrote:

> I've registered but I'm trying to gauge how much stuff I'll
> be bringing back through Canada Customs.  Does anyone know
> if books and paper are duty free yet?

They are not. Canada Customs will gouge you for every penny that they can.

Joseph Wu      <jwu@cs.ubc.ca> | Witty quote is now back to the
Master's Student               |   drawing board due to squeamish
University of British Columbia |   readers. Any suggestions?
WWW: http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html (Origami Page)





Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 11:42:38 -0300
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.EDU>
Subject:

just testing

Hello - is anyone out there? It's so quiet! Have I been bumped? Apologies to
all that have to pay to read this drivel...

I did have one question, though - does OUSA have the new Montroll books?

Also, (I guess I have two questions) does anyone know where I can get a copy
of Origami Omnibus? A friend can't find a copy anywhere... It seems to be out
of print. I have checked with several bookstores here in the Denver area, (so
has she) OUSA no longer has it... I'd appreciate it.

Dee





Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 11:43:49 -0300
From: JENEVOLD@aol.com
Subject: Unit Origami: Octagon Box Insert

Hello. I'm new to this list, and not too experienced with origami, but I've
recently discovered unit origami, and I've been having a "ball".

I hope someone here can help me: I've been enjoying making boxes from Tomoko
Fuse's book "Origami Boxes". I'm quite tantalized by the illustration of four
four-sided inserts in the octagon box; nowhere can I find instructions, and,
although I've fiddled around quite a bit, I just can't seem to duplicate
them. Does anybody know of another resource for instructions for these?

Thanks.
jenevold@aol.com





Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 11:45:00 -0300
From: Yusri Johan <gs01yyj@panther.Gsu.EDU>
Subject: Dinosaur's skeleton

Hi all,
        I just have some quick questions.  How many dinosaur's skeleton models
have been designed?  By who? and in Which publications?

You can reply directly to me or to the list.

Regards,
Yusri (gs01yyj@panther.gsu.edu)





Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 13:09:54 -0300
From: rshuster@netaxs.com (Bob Shuster)
Subject: Re: origami jets

>Anyone know where I can find some diagrams for air force/navy jets,
>helicopters, U.S. or otherwise?  Thanks... :)

Josh - I have a Stealth SR-71 and a Space Shuttle model pictured on my
origami page (http://www.netaxs.com/~rshuster/origami.html) and the source
for those is listed there.  If you don't ave Web access let me know and
I'll look them up!   - Bob

      = = =      /| Bob Shuster                           |\      = = =
[>----|-|-|-----/ |   Composer/Arranger/Copyist/MIDI &    | \-----|-|-|----<]
  (___|_|_|____)\ |   Computer Consultant  (215-927-4928) | /(____|_|_|___)
      " " "      \|   (& trumpet!)  (rshuster@netaxs.com) |/      " " "
                   URL  -  http://www.netaxs.com/~rshuster





Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 13:19:19 -0300
From: Jay@garter.dhr.com
Subject: Kasahara's Persian Cat

Does anyone know where Kasahara's Persian Cat is diagrammed?
Is it anywhere other than "Origami Omnibus"? (Which is out of print...)





Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 13:49:28 -0300
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: planes

Josh (and everyone)

There are a couple of really great planes in Kasahara/Takahama's _Origami for
the Connoiseur_. There is a SR-71 Stealth plane and the Space Shuttle. I
have seen one of those "Quick and Easy" books called "Origami that Flies, but
since they are always boxed, I've never been able to really look at it to see
what it has in there.

Dee





Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 14:26:59 -0300
From: Jennifer.Campbell@CCIW.ca (Jennifer Campbell)
Subject: (Canada Customs Info) Re: Not going to Convention? Check this out

On May 24 Joseph Wu responded to Grace Chiu's query about Canada Customs:

>On Mon, 15 May 1995, Grace Chiu wrote:
>
>> I've registered but I'm trying to gauge how much stuff I'll
>> be bringing back through Canada Customs.  Does anyone know
>> if books and paper are duty free yet?
>
>They are not. Canada Customs will gouge you for every penny that they can.
>
>Joseph Wu      <jwu@cs.ubc.ca> | Witty quote is now back to the
>Master's Student               |   drawing board due to squeamish
>University of British Columbia |   readers. Any suggestions?
>WWW: http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html (Origami Page)

I just phoned Canada Customs to find out more about this. As Joseph states,
YES Customs will gouge you for every penny. BUT...there are exemptions you
can take advantage of that will help reduce the gouging. So--for all
Canadians travelling to the Convention who expect to come home laden with
goodies:

The following rules apply to items brought in for personal use (not gifts
or commercial use) and don't include tobacco or alcohol. The rules
regarding those substances are complicated, and we're talking paper and
books from the Convention, right?

-If your stay is 24 h or more you can claim up to $20 of merchandise duty
free. There is no limit to the number of times a year you can take
advantage of this exemption.

-If your stay is 48 h or more you can claim up to $100 duty free, again no
limit to the number of times a year.

-If your stay is 7 days or more you can claim up to $300 duty free. You can
do this once a year. Exclude day of departure, include day of return when
calculating the 7 days.

Other things to note:
-convert the merchandise costs into $CDN when coming up with your total
-if total worth of merch. is over the duty free limit you pay duty on the
difference. I don't know what the rates are...i.e. would it be worth it to
buy something in the U.S. that you could get here, given exchange and
duties...
-SAVE YOUR RECEIPTS!! To prove how long you were away and the cost of the goods.
-there is a booklet called "I Declare" available from Customs wich has more
details.

Happy Conventioning All! (And happy shopping, Canadians)
I'll make it down there some year.

I know this is an origami discussion group, but don't those exemptions seem
a little stingy?

       /\_/\       ________
     `(     )' oo /        \
       `==='     | Maguro o |
       /   \     |  kudasai |
      |     |     \________/
      |     |
    ___\___/__jennifer.campbell@cciw.ca





Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 16:32:07 -0300
From: Mark.Kantrowitz@GLINDA.OZ.CS.CMU.EDU
Subject: Origami WWW Page

The Carnegie Mellon Origami Club now has a page on the World-Wide Web. In
addition to providing information about the club, it has a comprehensive
collection of pointers to other resources. (We would appreciate the URLs
of any resources we have missed.)

The URL for the page is
   http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/usr/origami/home.html

Thanks,

Mark Kantrowitz





Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 18:12:40 -0300
From: marmonk@mail.eskimo.com (Mark Morden)
Subject: Seattle Area Folders Group - Interested?

A week or so ago, I posted a message asking for a response from those who
would be interested in participating in a newly forming folders group in the
Seattle area.  Unfortunately, I was bumped from the listserver and haven't
been on-line since then.  So this is a repost of my request for interest.
------------------------------------------------------------

If you live in the Puget Sound area (Seattle, Everett, Tacoma, Olympia, and
all points in-between) and would like to be a part of a folders group,
please e-mail your response to me.  I am willing to get the group organized
and would like to know who is interested.  For now the information I need is
simple:

1. when would you prefer to meet?  day of the week and time of day
2. Where in the area would you like to meet?  North, south, east, downtown,
on a ferry, etc.

I look forward to hearing from the local folders and am excited about
getting together with others that have a passion for paper.  Thanks

Mark Morden == marmonk@mail.eskimo.com
--------------------------------------------------------
I believe in Christianity as I belive in the rising sun;
not because I see it but by it I see all else.
                                           C.S. Lewis





Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 18:33:59 -0300
From: sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV (Shi-Yew Chen \(a.k.a. Sy\))
Subject: Diagram for Eskimo in Kayak by Robert Lang?

Dear Origami lovers,

Could someone point me the direction for Eskimo in Kayak by Robert Lang?
I saw it in http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/usr/origami/exhibit95.html.

Thanks a lot!

Shi-Yew Chen (Sy)
E-Mail - sychen@enh.nist.gov
WWW URL - http://www.iia.org/~chens/syhome.htm





Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 19:40:57 -0300
From: Yusri Johan <gs01yyj@panther.Gsu.EDU>
Subject: Re: Diagram for Eskimo in Kayak by Robert Lang?

You (Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)) wrote:
>
> Dear Origami lovers,
>
> Could someone point me the direction for Eskimo in Kayak by Robert Lang?
> I saw it in http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/usr/origami/exhibit95.html.
>
> Thanks a lot!

Those two models are published in Origami Animals.  I don't know if this
book is still out there or not.

Have fun,
--
Yusri Johan (gs01yyj@panther.gsu.edu)
Georgia State University
http://www2.gsu.edu/~gs01yyj/home.html
Origami Page: http://www2.gsu.edu/~gs01yyj/origami/origami.html





Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 01:29:23 -0300
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@pipeline.com>
Subject: Dinosaur's skeleton

On Wed, 24 May 1995 Yusri Johan <gs01yyj@panther.Gsu.EDU> said:

>Hi all,
>       I just have some quick questions.  How many dinosaur's skeleton models
have
>been designed?  By who? and in Which publications?
 As far as single piece T-rex skeletons are concerned, there are only two
that I know of. Robert Lang got his published in last years Annual
Collection (from OUSA). I will have my own published in the upcoming Annual
Collection.

Happy fossil-hunting,
Marc Kirschenbaum





Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 03:48:29 -0300
From: LEMIEUXJ@aspen.uml.edu
Subject: Dollar Bill Shirt

   Does anyone know the source of an origami shirt made from a
dollar bill?

   Several years ago a woman at a folk concert folded a dollar
bill shirt for me. I have since adopted her practice of giving
the "Shirt Off My Back" as partial payment when leaving a tip
at a restaurant.

   I have also given shirt folding instructions to hundreds of
people. Once they see it, they want one.

   It is not the Jacket described by Honda, nor is it the Shirt
Waist from  Murry & Rigney.

   I have, by the way, written a set of instructions on how to
fold the shirt, and will E-mail a copy to any one interested.

   Any assistance in locating the original source of the shirt
will be greatly appreciated.

Bob
J. Robert A. Lemieux
lemieuxj@woods.uml.edu





Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 04:03:50 -0300
From: Winson Chan <winsonc@sfu.ca>
Subject: Re: Unit Origami: Octagon Box Insert

> I hope someone here can help me: I've been enjoying making boxes from Tomoko
> Fuse's book "Origami Boxes". I'm quite tantalized by the illustration of four
> four-sided inserts in the octagon box; nowhere can I find instructions, and,
> although I've fiddled around quite a bit, I just can't seem to duplicate
> them. Does anybody know of another resource for instructions for these?

I had the same problem myself, I spent some time trying to make my own
and after a while I managed to make them.  It's not a very elegant method,
but it does look OK.

--
Winson Chan
Electronic Engineering
Simon Fraser University
Burnaby, Canada





Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 07:42:29 -0300
From: Cyrene Slegona <slegona@saturn.caps.maine.edu>
Subject: Re: Dollar Bill Shirt

Try:  Gross, Gay Merrill(1993). THE ART OF ORIGAMI.BDD Illustrated Books,
        NYC. ISBN 0-7924-5841-9 Pages 22-25, shirt, pants and skirt.

Happy folding...





Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 10:20:29 -0300
From: "TATE,TROY D" <troy.tate@zeta.dhs.state.tx.us>
Subject: ORIGAMI SOURCE

Well, got dropped again sometime this week!  Had to resubscribe.

Found an origami book source this week that I didn't expect.  The
NATURE COMPANY store here in Austin, TX has John Montroll's 'Animal
Origami for the Enthusiast'!  It's the first time I've seen his book!
Looks like lots of fun.  I see the lobster that has been referenced
here.  Gotta try it.

BTW, they are supposed to have an Origami demo this Saturday at the
NATURE COMPANY store at Highland Mall in Austin, TX at 3:00.

Happy folding..../\/\|

Troy
LabNuke@ix.netcom.com





Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 15:14:08 -0300
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: box partitions

Tomoko Fuse has a book out called "Quick and Easy Origami Boxes" (ISBN0-87040-
939-5, Japan Publications) that has two different partitions for boxes. I do
not know if they will fit in the octagonal boxes since they are only shown in
the square ones, but they might.

Dee





Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 21:05:51 -0300
From: billhall@computek.net (Bill Hall)
Subject: Re: Dollar Bill Shirt

I don't know where it came from, either. (Sorry to get your hopes up by
having a message with the subject land in your mailbox.) I also learned it
years ago from someone, a Japanese lady who learned it in Japan.

BTW, I also leave them as tips. I also use a dollar bill bow tie which I
think is a Sam Randlett fold - I'd have to look it up. I've gone back into
restaurants that I've visited to find my origami posted behind the cash
register.

Bill Hall

>
>   Does anyone know the source of an origami shirt made from a
>dollar bill?
>
>   Several years ago a woman at a folk concert folded a dollar
>bill shirt for me. I have since adopted her practice of giving
>the "Shirt Off My Back" as partial payment when leaving a tip
>at a restaurant.
>
>   I have also given shirt folding instructions to hundreds of
>people. Once they see it, they want one.
>
>   It is not the Jacket described by Honda, nor is it the Shirt
>Waist from  Murry & Rigney.
>
>   I have, by the way, written a set of instructions on how to
>fold the shirt, and will E-mail a copy to any one interested.
>
>   Any assistance in locating the original source of the shirt
>will be greatly appreciated.
>
>Bob
>J. Robert A. Lemieux
>lemieuxj@woods.uml.edu
>
>

================================================
Hey, just because I _look_ dumb doesn't mean I'm _not_!
Bill Hall (billhall@computek.net) Dallas





Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 21:15:52 -0300
From: billhall@computek.net (Bill Hall)
Subject: Re: Unit Origami: Octagon Box Insert

I don't have the book you're talking about, but there are instructions for
some inserts that go into unit origami in her book, "Multidimensional
Transformations Unit Origami", Japan Publications, Inc, 1992.

Bill Hall

>> I hope someone here can help me: I've been enjoying making boxes from Tomoko
>> Fuse's book "Origami Boxes". I'm quite tantalized by the illustration of four
>> four-sided inserts in the octagon box; nowhere can I find instructions, and,
>> although I've fiddled around quite a bit, I just can't seem to duplicate
>> them. Does anybody know of another resource for instructions for these?
>
>I had the same problem myself, I spent some time trying to make my own
>and after a while I managed to make them.  It's not a very elegant method,
>but it does look OK.
>
>--
>Winson Chan
>Electronic Engineering
>Simon Fraser University
>Burnaby, Canada
>

================================================
Hey, just because I _look_ dumb doesn't mean I'm _not_!
Bill Hall (billhall@computek.net) Dallas





Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 22:31:40 -0300
From: Tim Kennedy <TKENNEDY@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Dollar Bill Shirt

I first encountered the Dollar Bill Shirt in the Origami Catalogue for the 1987
convention. It's cited as from Takahama by Rachel Katz. I have used it in numer
ous situations from job interviews (I'm a designer), to tips for waitresses,to
impressing the ladies (when I was single). I have always wanted to thank
Ms. Katz for the kind mitzvah she did in making the pantsuit available. While I
lived in New Haven,CT. some years ago, I frequented the middle eastern restaura
nt called MAMOU'S for lunch. Upon presenting Mamou with a Dollar Bill Shirt,he
requested any additional money folds that I might know. Several times thereafte
r I was given a free dish of his reknowned felafel in exchange for a dollar bil
l figure. He displayed the origami figures in an old glass case by the cash

register that held a small selection of sweets such as halevah and bakalava.Aft
er awhile I ran out of figures and Mamou eventually replaced the figures on
display with a variety of exotic treats. He would always play the music of the
famous Egyptian singer Om Khalsoum upon request.This was my first experience of
the art of paperfolding as a universal language different from the written or
spoken word.

BTW, does anyone have the instructions for the Dollar Bill Cat the was recently
 mentioned on this forum. I would appreciate anyone's assistance in this matter
Thanks in advance.





Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 09:23:22 -0300
From: Jennifer.Campbell@CCIW.ca (Jennifer Campbell)
Subject: Re: Dinosaur's skeleton

Marc K. helped in Yusri Johans's search for dinosaur skeletons by sending
in a reference for a single-piece model. If multi-sheet origami doesn't
bother you I know of an awesome T-Rex Skeleton design by Issei Yoshino.

It's made of 21 equally sized sheets (at least 8" each!) and is quite
complex. Originally it was published serially in the Origami Tanteidan
Newsletter in 1991. Now the diagrams (as well as some articles) are
available in a 60-page softcover book published by Origami Maple of
Toronto.

The book is called "Origami Skeleton of Tyrannosaurus Rex"
At the time of publication (Sept. 1992) it was available from the Japanese
Paper Place (JPP) in Toronto, and should still be... Their address is:
887 Queen St. W.
Toronto, Ont.
CANADA M6J 1G5
Fax (416) 369-0163

JPP does a lot of business by mail order. Sorry I don't know $$ as my copy
was a gift and the price is not shown on the cover.
Hope this helps!

>On Wed, 24 May 1995 Yusri Johan <gs01yyj@panther.Gsu.EDU> said:
>
>
>>Hi all,
>>       I just have some quick questions.  How many dinosaur's skeleton models
>have
>>been designed?  By who? and in Which publications?
> As far as single piece T-rex skeletons are concerned, there are only two
>that I know of. Robert Lang got his published in last years Annual
>Collection (from OUSA). I will have my own published in the upcoming Annual
>Collection.
>
>Happy fossil-hunting,
>Marc Kirschenbaum

       /\_/\       ________
     `(     )' oo /        \
       `==='     | Maguro o |
       /   \     |  kudasai |
      |     |     \________/
      |     |
    ___\___/__jennifer.campbell@cciw.ca





Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 11:00:33 -0300
From: Stefan Gumhold Geomod WS94/95 <sgumhold@gris.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de>
Subject: Peter Engel's reindeer

Hi,

yesterday I tried to fold Peter Engel's reindeer and didn't manage the
head. My problems araise between step 48 and 49. I don't know how to
flaten the model. I never got the triangle in the lower half. It was
always a rectangle like figure.

STE





Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 11:35:05 -0300
From: Steve Vinik <z007169b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us>
Subject: party hats for grownups

Our office (Broward County Public Information/Graphics) recently started
a new tradition. On an employee's birthday, we decorate their desk with
balloons and then descend upon them all at once after break time and give
them a birthday card, a Happy Birthday song, a cake for one, AND AN
ORIGAMI HAT! Now, this wasn't my idea. But guess who gets to make them?

We have had four or five birthdays and each time I go for a different
cap. I was sick for two days when I was supposed to provide a papal cap
(mitre) so someone else folded a newspaper cap (from the sailboat fold).
I made a sturdy baseball cap that someone else put racing stripes on and
a "P" for Pittsburgh. The samurai hat looked great on the graphics
supervisor--he's a Harley kind of guy and looks like he'd do well with a
sword.

The best cap I ever made for a party--and probably what inspired all
these birthday caps--was a construction using a roll of cardboard as a
kind of crown topped off with a circular pleated fan. It was all done
with an elegant foil wrapping paper and looked quite stylish. I sewed the
two pieces together in about four places. It was almost like a chef's hat
in shape but with the gleam of a tiara.

Folder's note: I always make a newspaper model first to get the size
right, before I go to the special paper and sharper creasing.

Steve Vinik
z007169b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us

Paper: the launching pad of the imagination





Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 16:54:46 -0300
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: stuff

ummmmm.... the Yoshino T. Rex was mentioned, I thought I might add that the
OUSA supply source lists it at $10.95.

Also, I BELIEVE, and correct me if I am wrong, someone, but I seem to remember
asking for the $bill cat, too and being told that the model wasn't diagrammed,
that the person who mentioned it learned it straight from the designer/or a
model...

take care all and have a great holiday weekend! Drive safe! Be careful! Have
fun!  (I'm a mom, I'm allowed to say things like that!)

Dee





Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 17:14:53 -0300
From: Origamiist@aol.com
Subject: Online names for conv.

I was out of touch for a while. Was a decision made on the symbol to be used
for name tags at the convention to identify online origamiists? The only 2
suggestions I saw were "OLO" and :-). Please let me know as I have not yet
sent in my convention info (I have a case of terminal procrastination!.)

-Vern





Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 10:57:50 -0300
From: Laurie_Reynolds@smec.sel.sony.com (Laurie Reynolds)
Subject: apologies to Maarten van Gelder

Hello,

I apologize Mr. van Gelder.  The caterpillar that I downloaded was indeed your
model.  I was also looking at Peter Engel's book "From Angelfish to Zen"
ISBN: 0 - 486 - 28138 -8 in which he has a model for a centipede and calculates
the number of legs that are obtainable given a specified length of paper.

Sincere apologies.

laurie





Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 12:05:50 -0300
From: "Bimal R. Desai" <bdesai@emory.edu>
Subject: Re: Diagram for Eskimo in Kayak by Robert Lang?

On Wed, 24 May 1995, Yusri Johan wrote:

> You (Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)) wrote:
> >
> > Dear Origami lovers,
> >
> > Could someone point me the direction for Eskimo in Kayak by Robert Lang?
> > I saw it in http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/usr/origami/exhibit95.html.
> >
> > Thanks a lot!
>
> Those two models are published in Origami Animals.  I don't know if this
> book is still out there or not.
>
> Have fun,
> --
> Yusri Johan (gs01yyj@panther.gsu.edu)
> Georgia State University
> http://www2.gsu.edu/~gs01yyj/home.html
> Origami Page: http://www2.gsu.edu/~gs01yyj/origami/origami.html
>

Who wrote Origami Animals?  What year was it published?
Sounds like a nifty model.  Also, did I hear mention of an origami bat by
Lang?  Any idea if the diagrams have been published?

 -Bimal





Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 13:07:11 -0300
From: DonShall@aol.com
Subject: "Origami Animals"

"Origami Animals - Paper Animals from Around the World," by Robert J. Lang,
copyright c 1992  Quintet Publishing Limited, ISBN 0-517-07320-X.  Beautiful
book!





Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 14:39:04 -0300
From: DEWEY.D.M%wec@dialcom.Tymnet.COM
Subject:

     Origami animals is probably Origami Zoo by Lang and another author.

                                                         Dave Dewey
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From: "Bimal R. Desai" <bdesai@emory.edu>
Subject: Re: Diagram for Eskimo in Kayak by Robert Lang?
Disclose-Recipients: TRUE

On Wed, 24 May 1995, Yusri Johan wrote:

> You (Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)) wrote:
> >
> > Dear Origami lovers,
> >
> > Could someone point me the direction for Eskimo in Kayak by Robert Lang?
> > I saw it in http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/usr/origami/exhibit95.html.
> >
> > Thanks a lot!
>
> Those two models are published in Origami Animals.  I don't know if this
> book is still out there or not.
>
> Have fun,
> --
> Yusri Johan (gs01yyj@panther.gsu.edu)
> Georgia State University
> http://www2.gsu.edu/~gs01yyj/home.html
> Origami Page: http://www2.gsu.edu/~gs01yyj/origami/origami.html
>

Who wrote Origami Animals?  What year was it published?
Sounds like a nifty model.  Also, did I hear mention of an origami bat by
Lang?  Any idea if the diagrams have been published?

 -Bimal





Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 14:54:14 -0300
From: Joseph Wu <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Re: Dinosaur's skeleton

On Wed, 24 May 1995, Yusri Johan wrote:

>       I just have some quick questions.  How many dinosaur's skeleton models
> have been designed?  By who? and in Which publications?

There were several dinosaur skeletons on display at Convention '94 last
year. It is unclear whether they were all designed by Yoshino or if some
of them were by Kawahata. I remember the now famous T.rex and also a
tricerotops. A while back, in one of the Friends' newsletters, Robert
Lang wrote about his trip to Japan, and included a very small photo of a
very large Yoshino T.rex skeleton surrounded by smaller skeletons of
other dinosaurs, including a brachiosaurus, a dimetrodon, and a
stegosaurus. If I remember correctly, he said that they were all designed
by Kawahata after being inspired by Yoshino's T.rex. (Note that all of
these designs are of the multiple piece variety.)

Joseph Wu      <jwu@cs.ubc.ca> | Witty quote is now back to the
Master's Student               |   drawing board due to squeamish
University of British Columbia |   readers. Any suggestions?
WWW: http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html (Origami Page)





Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 14:59:02 -0300
From: Richard Kennedy <KENNEDRA@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: "Origami Animals"

In the U.K. I think this book is titled "Paper Animals". I'll dig out
my copy tonight, and try and confirm this.
Richard K.





Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 15:33:50 -0300
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: Dinosaur's skeleton

On Tue, 30 May 1995, Joseph Wu wrote:

   >    I just have some quick questions.  How many dinosaur's skeleton models
   > have been designed?  By who? and in Which publications?

   There were several dinosaur skeletons on display at Convention '94 last
   year. It is unclear whether they were all designed by Yoshino or if some
   of them were by Kawahata. I remember the now famous T.rex and also a
   tricerotops. A while back, in one of the Friends' newsletters, Robert
   Lang wrote about his trip to Japan, and included a very small photo of a
   very large Yoshino T.rex skeleton surrounded by smaller skeletons of
   other dinosaurs, including a brachiosaurus, a dimetrodon, and a

Just a nit, but ... Dimetrodon is NOT a dinosaur.  It is a sail-backed
reptile from the Permian, and is more closely related to us than to
the dinosaurs.

        -- jeannine "mother of a dinosaur fanatic" mosely





Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 17:16:19 -0300
From: Angel Rodriguez Negron <arodrign@ns.inter.edu>
Subject: "angel" models

I've worked with the angel model found at INTERNET (of Maarteen van
Gelder). Do you know other models of this kind? In which books can I find
them?

Please, help me ;( My girlfriend is asking me for them a lot time ago.

Another question. Do you know of any catalog that have origami books?
These kind of books are not very easy to find where I live.





Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 17:54:03 -0300
From: Joseph Wu <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Re: Dinosaur's skeleton

On Tue, 30 May 1995, Jeannine Mosely wrote:

> Just a nit, but ... Dimetrodon is NOT a dinosaur.  It is a sail-backed
> reptile from the Permian, and is more closely related to us than to
> the dinosaurs.

You are quite right. It is related to the class of mammal-like reptiles
that ruled the earth just prior to the dinosaurs. Some cataclysm wiped
them out to allow the dinosaurs to take over. I should have known
better...I was just to lazy to make the distinction in my previous
posting. Apologies to any dinosaurophiles whom I've offended. 8)

Joseph Wu      <jwu@cs.ubc.ca> | Witty quote is now back to the
Master's Student               |   drawing board due to squeamish
University of British Columbia |   readers. Any suggestions?
WWW: http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html (Origami Page)





Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 18:35:35 -0300
From: sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV (Shi-Yew Chen \(a.k.a. Sy\))
Subject: Re: "angel" models

>I've worked with the angel model found at INTERNET (of Maarteen van
>Gelder). Do you know other models of this kind? In which books can I find
>them?
>
Do you mean oriindex or Maarteen van Gelder's own model?

I have a 'Girl Angel' of my own design.  I don't know this is what you want
or not.

Shi-Yew Chen (Sy)
E-Mail - sychen@enh.nist.gov
WWW URL - http://www.iia.org/~chens/syhome.htm





Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 02:03:23 -0300
From: jdharris@csn.net (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: Dinosaur's skeleton

>On Tue, 30 May 1995, Joseph Wu wrote:
>
>   >    I just have some quick questions.  How many dinosaur's skeleton models
>   > have been designed?  By who? and in Which publications?
>
>   There were several dinosaur skeletons on display at Convention '94 last
>   year. It is unclear whether they were all designed by Yoshino or if some
>   of them were by Kawahata. I remember the now famous T.rex and also a
>   tricerotops. A while back, in one of the Friends' newsletters, Robert
>   Lang wrote about his trip to Japan, and included a very small photo of a
>   very large Yoshino T.rex skeleton surrounded by smaller skeletons of
>   other dinosaurs, including a brachiosaurus, a dimetrodon, and a
>
>Just a nit, but ... Dimetrodon is NOT a dinosaur.  It is a sail-backed
>reptile from the Permian, and is more closely related to us than to
>the dinosaurs.
>
>        -- jeannine "mother of a dinosaur fanatic" mosely

Jeannine -

        As a paleontologist, please let me say THANK GOD there are some
people out there who KNOW this!!!!!  I can't tell you how many
unenlightened people there are in this society...   >>>SIGH<<<

        ;-)

-- Jerry

Jerry D. Harris
Denver Museum of Natural History
2001 Colorado Blvd.
Denver, CO  80205
(303) 370-6403
Internet:  jdharris@teal.csn.net
CompuServe:  73132,3372

--)::)>   '''''''''''''/O\'''''''''''`  Jpq--   =o}\   w---^/^\^o

Overheard in the Denver Museum's
old Fossil Mammal Hall, from a mother
to her daugher:

"See there?  That's the camel-dinosaur, and
the horse-dinosaur, and the elephant-dinosaur..."

--)::)>   '''''''''''''/O\'''''''''''`  Jpq--   =o}\   w---^/^\^o





Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 09:19:20 -0300
From: Jennifer.Campbell@CCIW.ca (Jennifer Campbell)
Subject: Re: "angel" models

>I've worked with the angel model found at INTERNET (of Maarteen van
>Gelder). Do you know other models of this kind? In which books can I find
>them?
>
>Please, help me ;( My girlfriend is asking me for them a lot time ago.
>
>Another question. Do you know of any catalog that have origami books?
>These kind of books are not very easy to find where I live.

There is a nice angel in Kasahara's Origami Omnibus. But did I hear
somewhere that this book is out of print? Last Christmas I tried several
angels, looking for one simple enough to "mass-produce" for a Christmas
tree yet look elegant. This model won out. Foil paper (silver) works well
for holding the curve of the wings and face.

       /\_/\       ________
     `(     )' oo /        \
       `==='     | Maguro o |
       /   \     |  kudasai |
      |     |     \________/
      |     |
    ___\___/__jennifer.campbell@cciw.ca





Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 10:17:12 -0300
From: "Penelope R. Chua" <chupenr@minerva.cis.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: "angel" models

On Wed, 31 May 1995, Jennifer Campbell wrote:
>
>
> There is a nice angel in Kasahara's Origami Omnibus. But did I hear
> somewhere that this book is out of print? Last Christmas I tried several
> angels, looking for one simple enough to "mass-produce" for a Christmas
> tree yet look elegant. This model won out. Foil paper (silver) works well
> for holding the curve of the wings and face.
>

I was in New York City over the weekend, and saw several copies of
Origami Omnibus in several bookstores where i was shopping for origami
books.  One of them was Kinokuniya, by the Rockefeller Center - I think
there was only one or two copies on the shelf.  So for those of you out
there searching for this out of print book, it is still available in some
bookstores...

--
Penelope Chua                 chupenr@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Department of Biology         (203) 432-5052
Yale University
219 Prospect Street
Box 6666
New Haven, CT 06511





Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 10:32:57 -0300
From: sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV (Shi-Yew Chen \(a.k.a. Sy\))
Subject: Re: "angel" models

>I've worked with the angel model found at INTERNET (of Maarteen van
>Gelder). Do you know other models of this kind? In which books can I find
>them?
>
>Please, help me ;( My girlfriend is asking me for them a lot time ago.
>
>Another question. Do you know of any catalog that have origami books?
>These kind of books are not very easy to find where I live.
>
>

Hi, Angel,

I left your reply post at home. Sorry for not quoting it here.
With regard to my 'Girl Angel' I don't fold enough to publish a book. It is
not diagrammed either (in my brain). If you can wait till I put photo of the
finished product in my origami page you may decide whether it fits your need
(serveral weeks expected). Or I can mail you my finished works if you can't
wait. I don't have time to diagram it now.

Shi-Yew Chen (Sy)
E-Mail - sychen@enh.nist.gov
WWW URL - http://www.iia.org/~chens/syhome.htm





Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 11:24:18 -0300
From: Angel Rodriguez Negron <arodrign@ns.inter.EDU>
Subject: Re: "angel" models

On Wed, 31 May 1995, Penelope R. Chua wrote:

> On Wed, 31 May 1995, Jennifer Campbell wrote:
> >
> >
> > There is a nice angel in Kasahara's Origami Omnibus. But did I hear
> > somewhere that this book is out of print? Last Christmas I tried several
> > angels, looking for one simple enough to "mass-produce" for a Christmas
> > tree yet look elegant. This model won out. Foil paper (silver) works well
> > for holding the curve of the wings and face.
> >
>
> I was in New York City over the weekend, and saw several copies of
> Origami Omnibus in several bookstores where i was shopping for origami
> books.  One of them was Kinokuniya, by the Rockefeller Center - I think
> there was only one or two copies on the shelf.  So for those of you out
> there searching for this out of print book, it is still available in some
> bookstores...
>
> --
> Penelope Chua                 chupenr@minerva.cis.yale.edu
> Department of Biology         (203) 432-5052
> Yale University
> 219 Prospect Street
> Box 6666
> New Haven, CT 06511
>
>

I will be in search for those books. Thanks a lot for your help.

Anybody else know of other books? Any catalogs?





Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 14:40:27 -0300
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Folding Hamburger Patty "paper" (was Re: Geometry Forum...

In message <Pine.OSF.3.91.950422190920.14732A-100000@sun.lclark.edu>
    Gretchen Klotz  wrote:
+
+And while I'm on the commercial channel here, I'd better pass on the
+contact info for Key Curriculum Press, a wonderful geometry-oriented
+catalog.  They have Fuse's _Unit Origami_ book, as well as *huge* packs of
+origami paper and patty paper ("translucent squares of paper used by
+restaurants to separate hamburger patties," of all things!).  And lots of
+other great stuff for the math/geometry/origami junkie in *your* life...
+To order a catalog, write or call Key Curriculum at:
+
+       PO Box 2304
+       Berkeley, CA  94702-9983
+       (800) 995-MATH

Has anyone out there ever folded with the hamburger patty separator "paper".
The Dale Seymour Catalog (they also have lots of neat stuff - Thanks to
Michael Naughton for turning me on to them!) also has this stuff.  I am, to
say the least, suspicious, that this stuff really works.

Dale Seymour contact info (I have no affiliation with them except as happy
customer):

        Dale Seymour Publications
        P.O. Box 10888
        Palo Alto, CA  94303-0879
        800-872-1100

        -Doug





Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 16:08:10 -0300
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: patty paper

Doug - and all

I haven't ever folded with "official" patty paper, but I have folded with
waxed paper (it's probably very similar). It holds a crease well, except that
the finish shows every little crimple, crink and crease! I like it because it
is thin, and it works well to do small things. Of course, there isn't much
COLOR to it! :-)  I also like to fold the paper that places WRAP your finished
burger in (although, it gets pretty messy if you have had a juicy burger drip
all over it!)

Bye!

Dee





Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 19:12:30 -0300
From: Grace Chiu <chiug@Cognos.COM>
Subject: Re: Diagram for Eskimo in Kayak by Robert Lang?

Bimal wrote:
> On Wed, 24 May 1995, Yusri Johan wrote:
>
> > You (Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)) wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Origami lovers,
> > >
> > > Could someone point me the direction for Eskimo in Kayak by Robert Lang?
> > > I saw it in http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/usr/origami/exhibit95.html.
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot!
> >
> > Those two models are published in Origami Animals.  I don't know if this
> > book is still out there or not.
>
> Who wrote Origami Animals?  What year was it published?
> Sounds like a nifty model.  Also, did I hear mention of an origami bat by
> Lang?  Any idea if the diagrams have been published?

I've seen a book called "Origami Animals" by Rojas.  It's got colour photos of
painted animals.  I'll try to remember to jot down the ISBN next time I see
it (which is often -- I can never find the books I'm looking for around here,
but I keep seeing the Rojas book).

Grace





Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 19:47:34 -0300
From: Phillip Yee <Phillip_Yee++LOCAL+dADR%Nordstrom_6731691@mcimail.com>
Subject: BAKING SHEETS

RE: Waxed Paper

Also  heard  that baking sheets (Not  wax paper, but similar) are
good for making minatures. They hold  a crease very well  and  is
also similar to the "Patty paper". They come in rolls and can  be
found in any supermarket. I think Reynolds makes a brand.

-----P





Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 20:39:37 -0300
From: Cyrene Slegona <slegona@saturn.caps.maine.edu>
Subject: Re: Folding Hamburger Patty "paper" (was Re: Geometry Forum...

Several years ago I stayed at the Washington Omni Hotel. There is a
wonderful deli diagonally across the street. One day I was waiting for a
sandwich to be made and I noticed the "patty" paper they were using. I
asked if I could have some pieces and that I would make something for the
clerk... When I brought back a bouquet of origami flowers, he gave me an
even bigger stack of the paper.

It is a pleasure to fold with and some of my best pieces are made with
it. The important thing to keep in mind is that there are different types
of patty paper and you have to be selective. The paper is cost-effective,
to say the least. While I am a staunch supporter of Dale Seymore as a
mathematics teacher, there are less expensive sources you can tap into.





Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 22:08:15 -0300
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject:

The Origami Animals book by Rojas has the ISBN 0-8069-8648-4. Its published by
     Sterling
Publishing Co, and was originally published in German under the name
"Faszinierende Origami-Tierwelt".  It does NOT contain the Eskimo and the kayak
however. I found the book to be very pretty, but there is a lot of cutting for
some of the models.

Dee





Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 07:28:02 -0300
From: "K.StJ.Reavell" <92ksr@eng.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Rojas' Animals

I have this "Origami Animals" book by Rojas: I found it very much reduced
in a damaged stock sale. However, the vast majority of the models in it are
not really origami: there is liberal use of glue, scissors and some very
perculiar paper shapes. There is one moderately appealing beatle, and
the models are easy, but it's more a paper models than origami book. If
anyone does want the ISBN, I can dig it out.

Kingsley Reavell

On Wed, 31 May 1995, Grace Chiu wrote:

> Bimal wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 May 1995, Yusri Johan wrote:
> >
> > > You (Shi-Yew Chen (a.k.a. Sy)) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Origami lovers,
> > > >
> > > > Could someone point me the direction for Eskimo in Kayak by Robert Lang?
> > > > I saw it in http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/usr/origami/exhibit95.html
     .
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a lot!
> > >
> > > Those two models are published in Origami Animals.  I don't know if this
> > > book is still out there or not.
> >
> > Who wrote Origami Animals?  What year was it published?
> > Sounds like a nifty model.  Also, did I hear mention of an origami bat by
> > Lang?  Any idea if the diagrams have been published?
>
> I've seen a book called "Origami Animals" by Rojas.  It's got colour photos of
> painted animals.  I'll try to remember to jot down the ISBN next time I see
> it (which is often -- I can never find the books I'm looking for around here,
> but I keep seeing the Rojas book).
>
> Grace





Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 09:59:01 -0300
From: Rjlang@aol.com
Subject: Re: Dinosaur's skeleton

>>  I just have some quick questions.  How many dinosaur's skeleton models
>> have been designed?  By who? and in Which publications?
>
> There were several dinosaur skeletons on display at Convention '94 last
> year. It is unclear whether they were all designed by Yoshino or if some
> of them were by Kawahata.

To my knowledge, Issei Yoshino designed the first multi-piece dinosaur
skeleton, which was a T. Rex. He has also done a Triceratops as well (watch
for stunning photos of both in the upcoming origami CD-ROM, "Origami -- the
Secret Life of Paper"). The T. Rex is published in a book by Origami Maple
and is carried by OUSA.

Fumiaki Kawahata was thusly inspired and developed his own T. Rex,
Triceratops, Stegosaurus, Brachiosaurus, and (my personal favorite)
Dimetrodon, again, all multi-piece. The Triceratops has been diagrammed, but
not published to my knowledge.

Being of a perverse mind, I devised a one-sheet T. Rex skeleton that was
published in the convention '94 program.

Being of an equally perverse mind (and an equally competitive nature), Marc
Kirschenbaum has also devised a one-sheet T. Rex that I gather will be
published in the convention '95 program.

To my knowledge, those are all the dino bones out there in origami-land.

Robert Lang





Date: Thu, 01 Jun 1995 10:10:44 -0300
From: "Lisa, Hodsdon" <LISAHAB@vax3.hmco.COM>
Subject: FW: origami that starts with lotus fold

I just received a request for help, but I don't have anything in my
known repetoire or in any of my "at work" references.
Anything SIMPLE other than the fortune teller or salt shaker?
______________________________
Does any of you know an origami figure that starts by
folding the corners of a square to the center, then folding
the resulting corners to the center, and so on? (For at least
an iteration or two.)
______________________________
Thanks!
Lisa Hodsdon





Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 11:07:43 -0300
From: sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV (Shi-Yew Chen \(a.k.a. Sy\))
Subject: Copyright of origami works?

Hi,

Could anyone point me the direction about how to get copyright of own
origami design in USA?

Thanks!

Shi-Yew Chen (Sy)
E-Mail - sychen@enh.nist.gov
WWW URL - http://www.iia.org/~chens/syhome.htm





Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 11:42:29 -0300
From: "Andrew P. Anselmo" <anselmo@ERXSG.rl.plh.af.mil>
Subject: multiple blintz folding (origami that starts with lotus fold)

Lisa Hodsdon wrote:

Does any of you know an origami figure that starts by
folding the corners of a square to the center, then folding
the resulting corners to the center, and so on? (For at least
an iteration or two.)

How about Montroll's moth?  That uses a bit of multiple blintzing.
I don't know if you'd classify it as simple, but it is relatively
easy to fold (straightforward, no tricks).

A.

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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 11:51:24 -0300
From: zeus!lin6@uunet.uu.net (Someone)
Subject: Re: FW: origami that starts with lotus fold

>Does any of you know an origami figure that starts by
>folding the corners of a square to the center, then folding
>the resulting corners to the center, and so on? (For at least
>an iteration or two.)
>______________________________
>Thanks!
>Lisa Hodsdon

My dad taught me this one.  I think it was the first i ever learned.
It's a frog like creature.
You start by folding the corners to the center.
Turn over.
Fold to the center again.
Turn over.
Fold to center one last time.
Don't turn over... Pick up a corner from the center and squish it open to
        form an eye.  Repeat with the corner next to it.  (2 eyes)
Now turn over.
Unfold the top layers of corners.
Turn over.
Unfold the two non-eye corners.
Using the creases formed by the last unfold, form two "legs" on the underside.
        It's done sort of by turning it over and folding three sides of a box.
last step. From the underside, unfold a corner from the very first center fold
        to form a mouth under the nose.

Walter Lin
lin6@cooper.edu
(it's simpler than it sounds :-)





Date: Thu, 01 Jun 1995 12:06:36 -0300
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.COM>
Subject: Re: Folding Hamburger Patty "paper" (was Re: Geometry Forum...

+It is a pleasure to fold with and some of my best pieces are made with
+it. The important thing to keep in mind is that there are different types
+of patty paper and you have to be selective. The paper is cost-effective,
+to say the least. While I am a staunch supporter of Dale Seymore as a
+mathematics teacher, there are less expensive sources you can tap into.

I never meant to endorse Dale Seymour as the most cost effective source for
patty paper...  Please, shop around... get a good deal.

-Doug





Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 12:35:43 -0300
From: Stamm@aol.com
Subject: Origami WEB sites

I just got WEB access thru AOL.  Does anybody have a full or parial list of
origami related WEB sites?

Thanks in advance
tom





Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 12:38:07 -0300
From: bryan@SGL.ISTS.CA (Bryan Feir)
Subject: Re: FW: origami that starts with lotus fold

> folding the corners of a square to the center, then folding
> the resulting corners to the center, and so on? (For at least
> an iteration or two.)

   Hmmm... vague memory here.  Kunihiko Kasahara did a rose once that
worked this way.  You kept folding the corners in towards the centre, then
petal-folded parts of them back out afterward.  I believe it was in the
book _Origami Made Easy_; it's the one with the bride & groom pair in it.

   Unfortunately, I can't give you details on how to build it from my own
'at-work' references (e.g., my somewhat flawed memory), but I could probably
look it up for tomorrow.

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Bryan Feir           VE7GBF|"A landlady may be reduced to her lowest terms by a
bryan@sgl.ists.ca          | series of propositions."
                           |                          -- Stephen Leacock





Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 12:47:18 -0300
From: bryan@SGL.ISTS.CA (Bryan Feir)
Subject: Re: Origami WEB sites

> I just got WEB access thru AOL.  Does anybody have a full or parial list of
> origami related WEB sites?

   Best place to start would be Jim Plank's list of such pages, which points
to several others.  It's at:

  http://www.cs.utk.edu/~plank/plank/pics/origami/hp.html

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Bryan Feir           VE7GBF|"A wrangle is the disinclination of two boarders to
bryan@sgl.ists.ca          | each other that meet together but are not in the
                           | same line."              -- Stephen Leacock





Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 12:56:48 -0300
From: ec@rga.com (ephraim cohen)
Subject: Fortune teller variations

There are many simple variations on the fortune teller fold:

1.  Fold the sides in to the center, so the corners point up.  Turn it over.
    Voila! A little square table.
2.  Fold the little table in half the short way (not on the diagonal).  Flatten
     out the legs
    and open the pockets.  It's a catamaran (a double-hulled boat).

3.  Fold the table on the diagonal, and reverse-fold one of the corners.  It's
     a little critter
    with a head, two front legs, and a tail.  It looks like an abstract seal,
     but I recall seeing
    it in a book by Leeming (Fun with Paper?   Papercraft?) from the 1940's
     that called it a crow.





Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 13:05:24 -0300
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Re: Origami WEB sites

In message <950601112906_19070061@aol.com> you wrote:
+I just got WEB access thru AOL.  Does anybody have a full or parial list of
+origami related WEB sites?

Tom!
    Start at: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~plank/plank/pics/origami/hp.html
and follow every link you can find.

    ***WEB FLAME ON***
    For some reason, the web encourages people to make zillions of duplicate
copies of the same info... "Oh cool, look, I'll copy all those pointers to my
page, then I'll be even cooler!", rather than keeping a single site up to
date.  This means that you'll have to chase down everyone's origami pages
just to make sure you've found all the pointers.
    10 million monkeys typing for two years may not have written any
shakespeare, but they have created the World Wide Web!
    ***WEB FLAME OFF***

    -Doug





Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 13:08:39 -0300
From: Lillian Sun <Lillian_Sun@mail.amsinc.com>
Subject: Re: FW: origami that starts with lotus fold

          Dear Lisa,

          I know of a model of an instant camera that begins that
          way...

          Write back for more info.

          Lillian

          Lillian_Sun@mail.amsinc.com





Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 14:45:35 -0300
From: Richard Kennedy <KENNEDRA@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: "Origami Animals"

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/Original message\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

"Origami Animals - Paper Animals from Around the World," by Robert J. Lang,
copyright c 1992  Quintet Publishing Limited, ISBN 0-517-07320-X.  Beautiful
book!

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

In the UK this book is:
"Paper Animals", by Robert J. Lang
A Quintet Book, copyright 1992, published by The Apple Press,
isbn  1-85076-404-2.

Richard K.





Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 15:20:14 -0300
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Re: Copyright of origami works?

You can't actually copyright an origami design, you can only copyright
the directions for making it.  You can patent the design itself, but
that costs several thousand dollars in filing fees and legal fees.  My
father is a patent lawyer, and he once got a patent on an origami
design of mine as a birthday present.

        -- jeannine mosely (j9@concentra.com)





Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 15:23:51 -0300
From: Richard Kennedy <KENNEDRA@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: "angel" models

There is an attractive Simple Angel by Alfredo Giunta in "Origami" by
Paulo Mulatinho. Grange Books (1995), isbn 1-85627-689-9.

Richard K.





Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 15:47:10 -0300
From: Eric Tend <eric@hpisdaja.ptp.hp.com>
Subject: Re: Copyright of origami works?

jeannine (j9@concentra.com) wrote:

> You can't actually copyright an origami design, you can only copyright
> the directions for making it.

If you submit diagrams to Origami USA for the convention book (or
newsletter), they will automatically copyright the diagrams for you
when they publish them.  That's what they did for my three money
fold designs a few years back.  The complimentary copies of the
convention books were a nice bonus!

--Eric--

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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 16:49:13 -0300
From: Josh Kifer <kiferj@elwha.evergreen.edu>
Subject: Re: Fortune teller variations

> There are many simple variations on the fortune teller fold:
>
> 1.  Fold the sides in to the center, so the corners point up.  Turn it over.
>     Voila! A little square table.
> 2.  Fold the little table in half the short way (not on the diagonal).
     Flatten out the legs
>     and open the pockets.  It's a catamaran (a double-hulled boat).

>From the catamaran point, you can go on to make a pretty cool chinese
junk.  Anyone want to know how?
josh





Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 16:51:54 -0300
From: Josh Kifer <kiferj@elwha.evergreen.edu>
Subject: sweaty fingers

Anyone else have the problem that when working on a particularly
difficult and tiny fold, the sweat on your fingers begins to get into the
paper making it all soggy, causing it to tear a little... i hate this.
What should I do, put a little fan next to my hands?

josh
