




Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 00:50:55 -0300
From: Canyonmn@ix.netcom.com (Kaleb Tilley)
Subject: Re: Posting folding experiences

Well, I recently 'attempted' folding the Mantis.  Let me recommend that
you use something other than regular origami paper.     I got to the
rabbit folds on the several thicknesses of paper, and the paper just
fell apart.  This one has a lot of what I refer to as "mangle folds" in
it.  By that, I mean instead of having folds on foldlines, it has you
make several foldlines, and then open up a portion and sort of
"man-handle" it into another shape, using the foldlines as guides.
After several attempts, which usually include a lot of squashing and
mangling, you usually get it right.  Those "mangle folds" are rewarding
when you finish them, but a pain.
        I will attempt the Mantis again when I get some decent paper.
I'll keep you informed.

Kaleb





Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 14:04:06 -0300
From: elsa@cheshire.com (Elsa Chen)
Subject: Japan and Taiwan origami sources?

Hi all,

It is looking likely that I will be in Japan for a week starting April
18 and then in Taiwan for 2 weeks. My mother is going to do some
touring in Japan and to visit her many relatives in Taiwan, and she
has offered me the opportunity to go along. We will probably start
with 2-3 days in Tokyo and then take the trains to other parts of
Japan, including Kyoto. For the two weeks in Taiwan we will be in
Taipei, Tainan, and Kaohsiung.

IMHO, this is a rare, great opportunity. We have not been to that area
since I was about 4 years old and my father was working in Japan and
Taiwan, and I am MUCH less familiar with my mother's side of the
family than my father's, partly because all his siblings are in the
U.S. and most of hers are in Taiwan. I hope to be able to recall more
from this trip than I can from the last, and I am very much looking
forward to meeting the other side of the family!

Can anyone recommend places to find books or paper in Japan or Taiwan?
Will there be any origami events (e.g., exhibitions, conventions,
meetings) during that time?  Should I visit the NOA offices? Is it
possible to visit the Tanteidan or the International Origami Centre?
(And did I just make a major social blunder putting the Tanteidan and
Master Yoshizawa's group in the same sentence? Sigh. Probably.)

Though I might at first glance look like I should know how to function
(I am Asian-American, specifically Chinese/Taiwanese-American), I have
spent my life in the USA and been "Americanized" to a great extent. So
as such a foreigner, ignorant of many facets of Japanese etiquette, I
would be happy to meet people and perhaps do some folding but I feel
very shy because I am afraid of giving offense. Any advice would be
welcome!

I have been reading with great enthusiasm and interest everything that
came my way about the Origami Science & Math event last year - a
special thanks and kudos to Tom Hull and V'Ann Cornelius and others
who wrote about their trips, here and in other publications!

Thanks in advance for any help. I will report back to the list about
any origami resources found.

Elsa Chen
elsa@cheshire.com
(617) 646-9878





Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 14:52:29 -0300
From: galouie@ix.netcom.com (Gerald Louie)
Subject: Re: Japan and Taiwan origami sources?

Elsa,
        You are about to embark on a trip that would make my wife go
nuts over.  She just started doing origami a few months ago and just
loves it.  She's been having a hard time finding new papers ("washi"?)
to fold with though- even in San Francisco.  We've been trying to find
places with larger selections to appease her tastes but have been
limited in our success.  We wrote via e-mail to several paper/printing
companies in Hong Kong via the web at:

        http://www.fareast.com/hongkong.html

but we never received any response.  Either they were not interested in
providing swatches for us to view or we were writing to the wrong
people.  If you have the time, would you mind sharing the names &
addresses of some of the sources or paper that you may encounter during
your trip back East?

/gerald/

PS- Have a lot of fun.  Even without the origami, the shopping
    possiblities will make your head swim.





Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 16:05:18 -0300
From: Origamiist@aol.com
Subject: Origami sea life

Well the book store called me yesterday (after 3 weeks of waiting) to tell me
that North American Animals in Origmi was finaly in. I will go pick it up
shortly. I also picked up Birds in Origami. Am I suffering a bad case of De
ja vous or are some of these models repeats from another book? I also saw a
new addition of origami sea life. Does this new one have the same models as
the first, or does it have some new ones? (I only had a chance to look at it
quickly the last time I saw it). Thanx in advance for your answers.

-Vern





Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 16:44:26 -0300
From: JMontroll@aol.com
Subject: Re: Origami sea life

In Response to Vern's letter,

No, there are no repeats in my Bird origami book from any other book.

Origami Sea Life came out in a new edition, the publisher requested the
dimensions of the book to be larger. The models are the same.

I hope you enjoy the North American Animals book.

John





Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 18:19:54 -0300
From: Origamiist@aol.com
Subject: "Guru"

Wow, fastest response to a letter I have ever gotten John, thanx. I hope you
were not offended by my suggestion that you may have repeated any of of your
bird designs. There is a flamingo in your African animals in Origami, and if
I had any patience at all I would have looked a little closer before I stuck
my foot in my mouth! I am also interested in the software used for your
books. Not to say that any program is better, just curious. Also could you
give a ball park figure figure as to how long it takes you to diagram a
fairly complex model?
It is great to speak with you directly. I have sort of built you up in my
mind over the years as a sort of "Guru" of origami and am looking forward to
some "behind the scenes info" that I am sure all of us online would like to
hear.
Hope to meet you in person some day.
-Vern





Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 19:55:12 -0300
From: Cynthia Pettit <pettit@cs.unc.edu>
Subject: North American Animals book!

Well, this past week I successfully folded the moose!  [I chanted to
my friends "I'm making a *moose*!!" gleefully for three days.  I
folded only occasionally, since I was helping a lot of students and
grading a lot of programs...  I became quite brain-dead by the end
[not by the moose, but by the programs... :) ] and so this has become
my brain-dead slogan... :) ]

After I finished the moose I set it up and it promptly fell on its
nose!  Made me worry about real moose. :) [I had left the antlers up
because it looked nicer -- but it *didn't* look nicer nose-down... :) ]
A little fiddling and it looks great now.

The hardest part was the antlers -- folding 18, yes 18 layers was a
bit difficult...  I did my best but the results are *great*!

[My friends say I must fold a flying squirrel next...get it?  Moose
and squirrel?  Never mind... :) ]

I have also folded the Musk Ox -- another wonderful model!

The next one I'll fold will be the ram -- go TarHeels!  I'll fold it
out of our school colors: white and Carolina blue.

Which made me wonder: has anyone made up any school-mascots?  That
would make a wonderful book!

So here's my challenge, if anyone is interested: make a ram out of
light blue and white, but have the ram all-white, except for the
middle, like a blanket is laying over its back.  If the horns are
blue, that's an extra bonus! :)  And if you can have UNC written on
the side in white, well, I guess I'll just be horn-swoggled! :) :)

When I'm "free" this summer, I'm going to try to make one of my own --
I've never tried to create something before, but maybe I can give it a
shot!  At least modify an existing fold of some kind...

Hmmm...  I guess I coooullllld fold the square all up so there's a
band of blue in the center...  <slightly disgusted look>

Another interesting idea: has anyone made an Enterprize?

Well, back to the grind...

Cyn
--
"I made a moose!"





Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 00:51:31 -0300
From: Douglas Zander <dzander@solaria.sol.net>
Subject: USS Enterprise

>
> Another interesting idea: has anyone made an Enterprize?
>
> Well, back to the grind...
>
> Cyn
> --
> "I made a moose!"
>

   I had heard (I think on this list) that someone made an Enterprise
   spaceship, but I can't give you any more details.  I had seen another
   origamist make a spaceship but it wasn't the Enterprise.  I am also
   interested in the Enterprise if anyone knows anything.





Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 11:31:42 -0300
From: jdharris@teal.csn.net (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: USS Enterprise

>   I had heard (I think on this list) that someone made an Enterprise
>   spaceship, but I can't give you any more details.  I had seen another
>   origamist make a spaceship but it wasn't the Enterprise.  I am also
>   interested in the Enterprise if anyone knows anything.

        There's a "Starship" by Gene Pennello in the '92 FOCA Annual
Collection, p. 27 which bears a striking resemblance to the USS Enterprise
(original or A), made from a 3x4 rectangle.  (It probably isn't called
"Enterprise" outright for copyright reasons -- apparently, someone a while
back tried to get DC Comic's permission to copyright an origami "Batman,"
and nearly had the pants sued off of them!)  It's cute.  I myself have been
working on box-pleating a good _Enterprise_ for a while, but haven't come
up with anything spectacular yet...

Jerry D. Harris
Denver Museum of Natural History
2001 Colorado Blvd.
Denver, CO  80205
(303) 370-6403

Internet:  jdharris@teal.csn.net
CompuServe:  73132,3372

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OOO f the Earth's many creatures, not all did survive.
O   O Only those that adapted are today still alive!
OOO Those that couldn't -- or wouldn't -- are with us no more:
The most famous of these is the great dinosaur!
"Evolution," they call it; a 10-dollar word.
That's how nature, in time, from a fish, made a bird.

                                                -- Martin J. Giff

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Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 14:15:51 -0300
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Spray adhesive

Amen to Cynthia's post on spray hazards! I've worked all my life
in drafting & graphics arts, plus a wide variety of crafts, and
wish I'd been warned about the hazards. The University art departments
now have courses about material hazards and an environmental safety
officer.

Professional graphic art organizations - if they don't want to get
sued into oblivion - have available and USE a variety of safety
measures ESPECIALLY with spray adhesives and airbrush operations,
including hoods with suction exhaust systems for spraying, respirators,
filter masks etc.

Don't let your kids or students use this stuff without supervision,
take the necessary precautions, and even outdoors, use at least one
of those basic filter masks plus safety glasses or goggles, all available
inexpensively at your local hardware store.

And while I'm sharing a soap box: some artist grade marker pens, and
the dyes in some origami papers are potent enough to make fresh air
the best place to work with them too...

In fact, many owners of pet birds (macaws, parrots, etc.) have tragically
learned the hard way that using some of this stuff with a bird in the
house can result in a dead bird in a matter of minutes. (Heard of the
old canary in the coal mine practice?) Seems to me that what will do in
your $2000 macaw is best not inhaled or ingested by other living things...

--valerie





Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 11:19:37 -0300
From: Wadsworth Jeffrey T <jtw8340@usl.edu>
Subject: Lang's BlackDevil Angler

Yeah, I'd like to see a *neat* model of the BDA made from 10 inch paper.  I'm
not saying that it can't be done, I'd just have to drop to my knees and praise
your skill.  Believe it or not, I started out with 8 inches... of course, my
mistake surfaced around move 43 or so when even tweesers couldn't pull it off.
BTW, I use typing paper and it works just fine for everything else.  It has
incredible tensile strength and creases well.

For the Mantis, typing paper worked very well, it has never torn on me.

BoneFish





Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:11:58 -0300
From: Eric Tend <eric@hpisdaja.ptp.hp.com>
Subject: Re: USS Enterprise

> >   I had heard (I think on this list) that someone made an Enterprise
> >   spaceship, but I can't give you any more details.  I had seen another
> >   origamist make a spaceship but it wasn't the Enterprise.  I am also
> >   interested in the Enterprise if anyone knows anything.

Jeremy Shafer has an excellent USS Enterprise (from the old show) design
that he taught once during one of our BARF meetings.  It is amazingly
complex & detailed and took over two hours to complete.  I've been asking
him for diagrams but he hasn't gotten around to doing them yet.

--Eric--

==============================================================================
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      __/         __/        |                       -- Jack Burton
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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:20:02 -0300
From: Lillian Sun <Lillian_Sun@mail.amsinc.com>
Subject: Re: Japan and Taiwan origami sources?

          Hi Elsa!

          Coolnes that you will be going over to BOTH Japan and
          Taiwan!

          All I can say is that you should hit stationers stores in
          both places.  When I was in Japan (about 3 years ago), I
          found that a lot of the outdoor markets often had really
          beautiful paper.  So, if you happen to be prowling outside,
          take a look.

          Advice -- take along one of those rigid plastic tubes (some
          are expandable) that architects/artists use for large
          drawings (or at the very least, take a sturdy cardboard
          cylinder mailing tube) to roll oversized papers into.  I
          should have even done so for Convention last year!

          Cheers!
          Lillian
          Lillian_Sun@mail.amsinc.com





Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:41:41 -0300
From: jtweres@psp.att.com
Subject: new questions, USS Enterprise & spray adhesive

hello fellow paper folders,,,

i'm new to the group -- only been here for a couple of weeks

i do have some questions about a few items not covered by the FAQ:

i.)     i've seen several references to what seem like conference booklets
        which have origami model and instructions in them,
        e.g. "'92 FOCA Annual Collection"

        or are these books that you can purchase through a bookstore
        like barnes & noble, borders, etc.

ii.)    if the models references are from past conference booklets
        how does one obtain a copy???
        are we lucky enough to have on-line copies somehow
        to send via the internet???
        can we can people to send them via fax???

iii.)   via whatever mechanism
        i'm interested in the instructions for
        -  the USS Enterprise
        -- spaceships of any kind
        -- "Batman"

>>    I had heard (I think on this list) that someone made an Enterprise
>>    spaceship, but I can't give you any more details.  I had seen another
>>    origamist make a spaceship but it wasn't the Enterprise.  I am also
>>    interested in the Enterprise if anyone knows anything.
>
>         There's a "Starship" by Gene Pennello in the '92 FOCA Annual
> Collection, p. 27 which bears a striking resemblance to the USS Enterprise
> (original or A), made from a 3x4 rectangle.  (It probably isn't called
> "Enterprise" outright for copyright reasons -- apparently, someone a while
> back tried to get DC Comic's permission to copyright an origami "Batman,"
> and nearly had the pants sued off of them!)  It's cute.  I myself have been
> working on box-pleating a good _Enterprise_ for a while, but haven't come
> up with anything spectacular yet...

on the topic of spray adhesive:
        i too have used the spray adhesive and am happy with the results;

        for last mother's day i gave my mother of bouquet of origami lilies
        using flower wrapping paper and metallic paper joined together
        with spray adhesive

        i used pieces of coat hanger for the stems
        which i wrapped with green paper

        the bouquet turned out rather nice i think,
        my mother must've thought so too
        because she has it in her display case year round

i would appreciate in any help with obtaining the folding instructions
for the models i previously mentioned

thanks

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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 13:48:26 -0300
From: Jay@garter.dhr.com
Subject: More This and That

===============================================================
Some more Bits and Pieces...
>I also folded Engel's giraffe using foil-backed tissue paper (see a pic on
>my origami page!  --> html://www.netaxs.com/~rshuster/origami.html/) but I
>did use the 3M spray adhesive.  I folded that model a long time ago (the
>only one I ever did using foil-backed paper!) and to this day all the folds
>are intact.  I haven't used the 3M spray since 'cause I don't have a good
>place to do it (and my wife doesn't appreciate sticky floors and tables :)
>but I certainly would space (and wife) permitting.   - Bob

I always put down newspaper to avoid the "stickys".  You can also spray
outside
(weather permiting) using a large piece of cardboard.  Put a VERY light coat
of
glue on the cardboard to prevent the paper from blowing away.  Also, alcohol
is
an excellent solvent for the glue if you do get it on a table or on your
fingers (which can make folding very interesting!)
>> The Nashua Flea Market (indoors) in Nashua, New Hampshire, USA has a
vendor
>> selling very narrow tweezers (made in India) that I've found very useful
>> for folding small bugs out of tissue foil (tissue glued to kitchen foil).

>I heard about Robert Lang having some life-sized insects at a recent
>OUSA (then FOCA?) convention - does anyone have further details?

Yes, At the '93 Convention I believe that he had an Ant & a Tick, both of
which
were very small and displayed in little magnifying boxes.  Last year (at the
'94 convention) I displayed my fly sized version of his Horsefly, (folded
from
a 1 1/2" square of green japanese foil and colored strategically to produce a
3/8" model with white wings, black body and shiny green eyes), a 1" long
Paper
Wasp and my 2 1/2" version of the T-rex skeleton (folded from 1" squares of
Japanese foil).  These models were all done using an unfolded paperclip and a
pair of very sharp pointed locking tweezers made by X-acto.  They are
wonderful
to work with because they have a sliding lock which allows you to use the
tweezers either as a sculpting tool or an extra hand.  And since they are
from
store.  They cost approx $2.
>When you have to fold a crease between two points, are there any
>tricks/tips/devices for making the fold accurate?

When I work with these sorts of "Crease Pattern" models I find that I get the
best results by a) folding in the air rather than flat, B) make Mountain
folds
rather than valleys, rolling the paper to line up the points and then
carefully
pinching the line into place.  This is the exact opposite appraoch that I
take
with "regular" models, always avoiding mountains if possible, but I've found
that in this type of folding it gives maximal control.
You didn't ask me but I use MicroGraphix Designer 3.1 on the Windows platform
(4.0 is worthless).  I average about 2 hours per page, regardless of the
length
of the model, though some do take longer (I just finished re-doing Ronald
Koh's
Ankylosaurus for the '95 Convention Annual and it averaged 6 hours a page!)
And a little unsolicited advice (and I hope he doesn't mind) "John Montroll
is
just this guy, you know?" He is regular person just like the rest of us and
prefers to be treated the same as anyone else.   I made the mistake of
approaching him as a "guru" the first time I met him and only suceeded in
embarassing him. (Which is understandable)  Since then I have "mellowed out"
and we have become good friends.

J.C. Nolan (jay@dhr.com)
============================================================

===============================================================
Some more Bits and Pieces...
>I also folded Engel's giraffe using foil-backed tissue paper (see a pic on
>my origami page!  --> html://www.netaxs.com/~rshuster/origami.html/) but I
>did use the 3M spray adhesive.  I folded that model a long time ago (the
>only one I ever did using foil-backed paper!) and to this day all the folds
>are intact.  I haven't used the 3M spray since 'cause I don't have a good
>place to do it (and my wife doesn't appreciate sticky floors and tables :)
>but I certainly would space (and wife) permitting.   - Bob

I always put down newspaper to avoid the "stickys".  You can also spray
outside
(weather permiting) using a large piece of cardboard.  Put a VERY light coat
of
glue on the cardboard to prevent the paper from blowing away.  Also, alcohol
is
an excellent solvent for the glue if you do get it on a table or on your
fingers (which can make folding very interesting!)
>> The Nashua Flea Market (indoors) in Nashua, New Hampshire, USA has a
vendor
>> selling very narrow tweezers (made in India) that I've found very useful
>> for folding small bugs out of tissue foil (tissue glued to kitchen foil).

>I heard about Robert Lang having some life-sized insects at a recent
>OUSA (then FOCA?) convention - does anyone have further details?

Yes, At the '93 Convention I believe that he had an Ant & a Tick, both of
which
were very small and displayed in little magnifying boxes.  Last year (at the
'94 convention) I displayed my fly sized version of his Horsefly, (folded
from
a 1 1/2" square of green japanese foil and colored strategically to produce a
3/8" model with white wings, black body and shiny green eyes), a 1" long
Paper
Wasp and my 2 1/2" version of the T-rex skeleton (folded from 1" squares of
Japanese foil).  These models were all done using an unfolded paperclip and a
pair of very sharp pointed locking tweezers made by X-acto.  They are
wonderful
to work with because they have a sliding lock which allows you to use the
tweezers either as a sculpting tool or an extra hand.  And since they are
from
store.  They cost approx $2.
>When you have to fold a crease between two points, are there any
>tricks/tips/devices for making the fold accurate?

When I work with these sorts of "Crease Pattern" models I find that I get the
best results by a) folding in the air rather than flat, B) make Mountain
folds
rather than valleys, rolling the paper to line up the points and then
carefully
pinching the line into place.  This is the exact opposite appraoch that I
take
with "regular" models, always avoiding mountains if possible, but I've found
that in this type of folding it gives maximal control.
You didn't ask me but I use MicroGraphix Designer 3.1 on the Windows platform
(4.0 is worthless).  I average about 2 hours per page, regardless of the
length
of the model, though some do take longer (I just finished re-doing Ronald
Koh's
Ankylosaurus for the '95 Convention Annual and it averaged 6 hours a page!)
And a little unsolicited advice (and I hope he doesn't mind) "John Montroll
is
just this guy, you know?" He is regular person just like the rest of us and
prefers to be treated the same as anyone else.   I made the mistake of
approaching him as a "guru" the first time I met him and only suceeded in
embarassing him. (Which is understandable)  Since then I have "mellowed out"
and we have become good friends.

J.C. Nolan (jay@dhr.com)





Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 15:44:23 -0300
From: marmonk@mail.eskimo.com (Mark Morden)
Subject: Re: Batman (was Re: USS Enterprise)

[snip]
>apparently, someone a while
>back tried to get DC Comic's permission to copyright an origami "Batman,"
>and nearly had the pants sued off of them!)  It's cute.
>
[snip]
>Jerry D. Harris
>Denver Museum of Natural History
>2001 Colorado Blvd.
>Denver, CO  80205
>(303) 370-6403
>

This posts begs the response: Where could the Batman instructions be found?

Thank you

Mark Morden
marmonk@eskimo.com





Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 16:46:08 -0300
From: Tim Rueger <rueger@areaplg2.corp.mot.com>
Subject: Re: Lang's BlackDevil Angler

Hi, All,

>>>>> "jtw" == Wadsworth Jeffrey T <jtw8340@usl.edu> writes:
    jtw> Yeah, I'd like to see a *neat* model of the BDA made from 10
    jtw> inch paper.  I'm not saying that it can't be done, I'd just
    jtw> have to drop to my knees and praise your skill.  Believe it or
    jtw> not, I started out with 8 inches... of course, my mistake
    jtw> surfaced around move 43 or so when even tweesers couldn't pull
    jtw> it off.  BTW, I use typing paper and it works just fine for
    jtw> everything else.  It has incredible tensile strength and
    jtw> creases well.

I've had some luck with this model using the 10-inch kami paper sold by
OrigamiUSA's supplies center.  It is *very* nice to fold with.  It's
flexible, but very strong.  I also find the color sometimes makes a
difference in the strength of the paper (for some reason).

The blackdevil I get from this 10-inch paper looks reasonably good.  The
results aren't *quite* as good as I'd like - the lure ends up a bit
frazzled, and the center tooth on the upper jaw is quite easy to destroy
by the time I'm done with the whole model.  Also, the upward "sink" of
the forehead from the central jaw area is difficult to do smoothly.

This is an excellent model to illustrate the fact paper, in general, has
finite thickness :^).

    jtw> For the Mantis, typing paper worked very well, it has never
    jtw> torn on me.

I've also used 10-inch kami from the supplies center for this model - it
works great.  I believe Mr. Lang once said in this forum that he had
designed that model for 10-inch kami paper, but I've never understood
exactly what he meant by that.

I found that doing the early creases as lightly as possible (while still
maintaining accuracy) helps a lot.  Also - there's one crease that I
always make sure goes perpendicular to the grain of the paper (I'd have
to draw it out to show it clearly), since it consistently exploded on me
in my first few attempts, when it ran parallel to the paper grain.

-Tim
--
Tim Rueger             Motorola CCR&D IC Design Laboratory, IL02-2921
Fax  : (708) 538-4593  Internet: rueger@areaplg2.corp.mot.com





Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 16:52:37 -0300
From: jdharris@teal.csn.net (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: Lang's BlackDevil Angler

>Yeah, I'd like to see a *neat* model of the BDA made from 10 inch paper.  I'm
>not saying that it can't be done, I'd just have to drop to my knees and praise
>your skill.  Believe it or not, I started out with 8 inches... of course, my
>mistake surfaced around move 43 or so when even tweesers couldn't pull it off.
>BTW, I use typing paper and it works just fine for everything else.  It has
>incredible tensile strength and creases well.
>
>For the Mantis, typing paper worked very well, it has never torn on me.

BoneFish et al -

        Oh, it can be done all right!  8-)  I made the mistake of saying
that it couldn't, shortly after the book came out, and Robert Lang himself
promptly mailed me one, made from the usual 9 3/4" square origami paper!

Jerry D. Harris
Denver Museum of Natural History
2001 Colorado Blvd.
Denver, CO  80205
(303) 370-6403

Internet:  jdharris@teal.csn.net
CompuServe:  73132,3372

--)::)>   '''''''''''''/O\'''''''''''`  Jpq--   =o}\   w---^/^\^o

OOO f the Earth's many creatures, not all did survive.
O   O Only those that adapted are today still alive!
OOO Those that couldn't -- or wouldn't -- are with us no more:
The most famous of these is the great dinosaur!
"Evolution," they call it; a 10-dollar word.
That's how nature, in time, from a fish, made a bird.

                                                -- Martin J. Giff

--)::)>   '''''''''''''/O\'''''''''''`  Jpq--   =o}\   w---^/^\^o





Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 19:26:39 -0300
From: jdharris@teal.csn.net (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Big Paper Packets

Hello! -

        Does anyone know if the typical 10" (well, OK, 9 3/4") square
origami paper comes in large monochrome packets?  I get really tired of
having to shell out lots of money for a package of 100 sheets which only
has like 5 reds, 5 greens, 5 browns, etc.  I'd like to see packets of 100
sheets of ALL red, ALL green, ALL brown, etc.  Does this exist?

        Also, just FYI, the Koma company, aside from the 9 3/4" squares,
makes packages of 30 sheets of assorted color 13 3/4" origami paper.  The
stuff is sold locally (Denver) by the Kobun-sha bookstore, but the label in
the package says it's distributed by the Kotobuki Trading Co. of S. San
Francisco.  Koma's paper is good quality, but a large number of the
packages contain pieces of paper that aren't quite square -- at least in
the 9 3/4" size.

Jerry D. Harris
Denver Museum of Natural History
2001 Colorado Blvd.
Denver, CO  80205
(303) 370-6403

Internet:  jdharris@teal.csn.net
CompuServe:  73132,3372

--)::)>   '''''''''''''/O\'''''''''''`  Jpq--   =o}\   w---^/^\^o

OOO f the Earth's many creatures, not all did survive.
O   O Only those that adapted are today still alive!
OOO Those that couldn't -- or wouldn't -- are with us no more:
The most famous of these is the great dinosaur!
"Evolution," they call it; a 10-dollar word.
That's how nature, in time, from a fish, made a bird.

                                                -- Martin J. Giff

--)::)>   '''''''''''''/O\'''''''''''`  Jpq--   =o}\   w---^/^\^o





Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 19:25:57 -0300
From: jdharris@teal.csn.net (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: Batman (was Re: USS Enterprise)

>[snip]
>>apparently, someone a while
>>back tried to get DC Comic's permission to copyright an origami "Batman,"
>>and nearly had the pants sued off of them!)  It's cute.
>>
>[snip]
>>Jerry D. Harris
>>Denver Museum of Natural History
>>2001 Colorado Blvd.
>>Denver, CO  80205
>>(303) 370-6403
>>
>
>This posts begs the response: Where could the Batman instructions be found?
>
>Thank you
>
>Mark Morden

Mark et al -

        Gee, I shoulda guessed I'd get this kind of response!  8-)
Unfortunately, I don't even clearly remember where I heard this, let alone
whose model it was -- but i'm pretty sure it's not published.  I've been
out of the origami circuit for a while; I'm not even a member of the BOS
(too expensive) or OrigamiUSA anymore.  This may have been mentioned in an
old FOCA Newsletter, but I don't know for sure.  Or a BOS newsletter?
Anyone else have this memory???

Jerry D. Harris
Denver Museum of Natural History
2001 Colorado Blvd.
Denver, CO  80205
(303) 370-6403

Internet:  jdharris@teal.csn.net
CompuServe:  73132,3372

--)::)>   '''''''''''''/O\'''''''''''`  Jpq--   =o}\   w---^/^\^o

OOO f the Earth's many creatures, not all did survive.
O   O Only those that adapted are today still alive!
OOO Those that couldn't -- or wouldn't -- are with us no more:
The most famous of these is the great dinosaur!
"Evolution," they call it; a 10-dollar word.
That's how nature, in time, from a fish, made a bird.

                                                -- Martin J. Giff

--)::)>   '''''''''''''/O\'''''''''''`  Jpq--   =o}\   w---^/^\^o





Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 20:09:05 -0300
From: Origamiist@aol.com
Subject: Convention and spelling?

I just called OUSA and they said the convention info had not gone out yet
(actually they said they hadn't even started planning the stuff to send out
yet!) So I will become a member and go to the convention at the same time
(almost) Thanx to PamGotcher (I love that name!) for the info on how to
contact OUSA and the dorms available. I was told accomadations are easy to
get if you register early. My spelling question is in regards to my screen
name; should it be Origamiist or Origamist (not that I can change it now)

In regards to J.C. Nolan's More this and that post:

>You didn't ask me but I use MicroGraphix Designer 3.1 on the Windows
platform<
>(4.0 is worthless).  I average about 2 hours per page, regardless of the<
>length of the model, though some do take longer<
I was hoping to finish diagraming an origami computer but it looks like I
might not get done in time. (Illustrator 5.5 on Mac)

As for Mr. Montroll not likeing all the attention:
>John Montroll is just this guy, you know?" He is regular person just like
the rest<
>of us and prefers to be treated the same as anyone else.<

when you become a celebrity you have to make sacrifices. (Hey John can we
switch badges at the convention? I wouldn't mind some origami groupies!  ;-)
I am really looking forward to meeting all you cool people at the convention!

-Vern
P.S. If I am annoying please tell me!





Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 20:28:03 -0300
From: Douglas Zander <dzander@solaria.sol.net>
Subject: Re: USS Enterprise

   Eric, I assume this isn't the same as in the '92 Convention Booklet,
   I know I shouldn't ask a question like this but... Which do you think
   is more realistic? :-)  (Have you seen the '92 Convention Booklet one?)

>
> Jeremy Shafer has an excellent USS Enterprise (from the old show) design
> that he taught once during one of our BARF meetings.  It is amazingly
> complex & detailed and took over two hours to complete.  I've been asking
> him for diagrams but he hasn't gotten around to doing them yet.
>
> --Eric--
>
> ==============================================================================
>      ____/__/__/__/__/__/__/ | "Its all in the reflexes"
>       __/         __/        |                       -- Jack Burton
> _______/__/      __/         |================================================
>     __/         __/          | Eric Tend
>  ____/__/__/   __/           | eric@hpisdaja.ptp.hp.com





Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 21:31:09 -0300
From: Origamiist@aol.com
Subject: Mi-grain

Tim Rueger wrote:

>Also - there's one crease that I
>always make sure goes perpendicular to the grain of the paper (I'd have
>to draw it out to show it clearly), since it consistently exploded on me
>in my first few attempts, when it ran parallel to the paper grain.

Great Idea! I have never in my years of folding thought to worry about the
grain of the paper! That explains a lot of things! Maybe someone should start
putting the direction of the grain as well as the size of paper to be used in
the more complex models!

-Vern





Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 22:18:23 -0300
From: elsa@cheshire.com (Elsa Chen)
Subject: Re: possible paper sources

Gerald wrote:

>If you have the time, would you mind sharing the names & addresses of
>some of the sources or paper that you may encounter during your trip
>back East?
>
>/gerald/

If I get the chance to visit any origami resource I will gladly post
its name, address, whatever information I might get that will help
others find it, to the list.

Meanwhile, within the U.S.,

(I got this one from Michael LaFosse, who has ordered paper in
quantity from them. They make the usual origami paper, in many
different varieties - regular, patterened, foils, duo, etc.)

Aitoh
1434 28th Ave.
San Francisco, CA 94122
1-800-681-5533
FAX 415-566-1448
ask for catalog
minimum order $100 or so
if you pay up front they ship free

(These two I first heard about in LaFosse classes - they'd be more for
handmade papers, fancy stuff, usually rectangular/not pre-cut into
squares. I don't know whether they mail order or not.)

Sanpho Corp.
189 State Street
3rd Floor
Boston, MA 02109
(617) 720-5370
FAX (617) 720-0887

Rugg Road Paper & Prints
One Fitchburg Street
Somerville, MA 02143
(617) 666-0007

Gerald, you're in San Francisco, so you probably already know about
the small Kinokuniya stationery shop in a corner across from the big
Kinokuniya bookstore in the Japantown mall. I take it your wife
requires more beyond what they carry. Can you give us more of an idea
what sort of paper she is seeking? Like, does she want different
varieties of the usual square origami paper, or handmade papers, or a
certain kind of paper for a project?

- Elsa





Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 22:20:49 -0300
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: Batman (was Re: USS Enterprise)

Hi Jerry,

Regarding the "Batman" diagrams, I remeber the story fairly well. Diagrams
were received (from Spain I believe), along with diagrams for the "Joker"
at the FOCA, for use in their publications. The FOCA justifiably was scared
to publish such trademarked material. Both diagrams are still sitting in
the files of the FOCA in NY.

It is always upsetting when I see great models like these collecting dust.
Supposedly the FOCA (now OrigamiUSA) could approach DC Comics, but I guess
that they felt that it would be too much of a hastle.

When the FOCA received diagrams for the USS Enterprise, they simply renamed
the model "Starship." Perhaps due to the accuracy of the Batman and Joker
models, the FOCA felt that they would be met with more resisstance. I guess
for now, we will have to wait until such material becomes public domain.

Marc Kirschenbaum





Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 22:35:15 -0300
From: Marc Kirschenbaum <marckrsh@pipeline.com>
Subject: new questions, USS Enterprise & spray adhesive

Hi Jack,

Welcom to the group (I'm new myself). Regarding the FOCA Annual Collections
(which I have been instrumental in producing), the best place to purchase
them is though the supplies center of OrigamiUSA, known as the Origami
Source. OrigamiUSA would be glad to send out a supplies list (address in
FAQ), and orders would then be sent to:

The Origami Source
c/o Phyliss Meth
40-05 166th Street
Flushing, NY 11358
USA

The books themselvs are a diagram lover's paradise. They contain a few
hundred pages worh of diagrams from all around the world, which are
expertly edited by OrigamiUSA's staff for accuracy. Many of the models
contained appear years before they are available in more commercial stores.
The black spiral binding is neat enough for my bookshelf.

Marc Kirschenbaum





Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 01:53:55 -0300
From: JMontroll@aol.com
Subject: Diagramming is Phun

To Vern et al,

How would you like to do my diagramming? (Just kidding)

For most of my books I used FreeHand 2.0, now I'm using 3.0. Robert Lang
helped me set it up and also wrote some code for the valley fold lines...

You asked how long it takes to diagram a page-the first few pages are
generally quick, maybe half an hour, often less when the drawings were
already done from a previous model. The last few pages do get a bit tedious
and could take about an hour. That's when I grumble and would rather start
drawing a new model than finish the old one. Anyway, if I should spend an
hour a day diagramming then I feel productive. As most of my books are 120
pages, it still takes about 2 years from start to finish.

So have phun diagramming!

John Montroll

(p.s. You can call me Guru, John, or John Montroll but don't Mr. Montroll me)





Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 04:53:39 -0300
From: Jeffrey.z.h.t.o.f.Tolmie@zhflur.ch.ubs.ch
Subject: Favorite Books

Hello All,

The two biggest bookstores here in Zurich deny the existence of a
certain Peter Engel. (They usually start muttering something about
Marx and Lennin and I sigh very deeply). Despite assurances that they
are the best and can get any book, they also seemed to have no record of a
"Lang" or a "Montroll" either. Sensing a pattern here, I enquired if they had
heard of "Dover Publishing". Blank stares confirmed my deepest
fears!

Anyway, the best way to checkmate the sales droids in Bookstores is to hit
them with an ISBN number.

Could some kind soul send me the the ISBN numbers for the following
books:-

Engel - Folding the Universe.

Montroll        - Origami Sculptures
        - North American Animals in Origami
        - Birds in Origami

Does anyone know of a place in the USA where said ISBN number
and my credit card would suffice to get the books posted here?

Robert Lang started me off in Origami again while we were working
together years ago in Germany. It had been a childhood pasttime thanks
to a book from Harbin that my mum bought me once as a
Christmas present. My subsequent experience is therefore heavilly
oriented towards Rob Lang's books. He suggested I try out John Montroll's
stuff. But apart from these two guys I have seen very few other styles.

I would like to hear from you all what you would say are classic
books that belong in my collection.

Regards,

Jeff Tolmie

Email = Jeffrey.Tolmie@zhflur.ubs.ubs.ch





Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 05:11:50 -0300
From: Jeffrey.z.h.t.o.f.Tolmie@zhflur.ch.ubs.ch
Subject: Cutting Techniques

Hi again all,

Sunday afternoon was wounderfully sunny for April in Switzerland. So I
decided to leave the dim bowels of my office and curtail my exploration
of the latest Windows 95 beta. I grabbed "Origami Sea Life" from the
bookshelf, gathered my tweezers, knife, ruler, pencil and a delightfull
little device stolen from my wife's manicure set, whose inventer
undoubtably intended it to be used for pushing back cuticles, but makes
a perfect creasing tool for those "hard to get at bastards of sinks" that
people like Robert Lang like to proliferate throughout their models ;-)
I set myself up on the terrace with an iced tea and set about cutting
a square from my favorite roll of paper. I had decided to fold Montroll's
Blue Shark, since I'd folded it quickly once before with practice paper and
had been meaning to fold a neat one for ages. The finished product
turned out great by the way. It is not too difficult, considering the amount
of detail. It now takes pride of place on top of my monitor so all my
collegues can be suitably impressed and I my insatiable ego can get
regular boosts of praise ;-)

The most frustrating part of folding, is cutting the paper. I guess I need
at least a half hour to cut a perfect square. Since I am eager to begin
folding, it taxes my patience having to take my time to measure and cut
correctly. I use a 40cm  metal ruler for cutting, and also as a baseline
for a draftmans Right angle. I measure the paper size from two adjacent
sides, and use the right angle to pencil lines at right angles to these points.
Where the lines meet should be the fourth point of the square. It is usually
about 0.5 mm off. I then have to stuff around measuring the length of
all four sides, trying to figure out which edge has the error in it.

I would like to hear from y'all how you prefer to cut paper and whether
anyone else takes as long as me ;-)

Regards,

Jeff Tolmie

Email = Jeffrey.Tolmie@zhflur.ubs.ubs.ch





Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 05:30:18 -0300
From: logician!sophie!pat@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Re: USS Enterprise

In Regards to your letter <v01510100abad21456d59@[204.131.233.11]>:
>   I had heard (I think on this list) that someone made an Enterprise
>   spaceship, but I can't give you any more details.  I had seen another
>   origamist make a spaceship but it wasn't the Enterprise.  I am also
>   interested in the Enterprise if anyone knows anything.

Jeremy Schafer in Santa Cruz has designed a nifty Enterprise (of the
first generation, I believe) that BARF* members had the pleasure of
folding (and sinking, and folding and sinking) about 4 months ago.
I do not know if he has diagrammed it, but he has just come on line
and should be monitoring this list.

Regards,

Pat

*Bay Area Rapid Folders





Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 10:02:46 -0300
From: David Vaules <dvaules@BBN.COM>
Subject: Re:  Diagramming is Phun

John,

Just a thought, have you (or your colleagues) ever tried a TV camera into
a computer with image processing software?  They have some pretty fancy
edge detection algorthms out there, and it might be worth a look if
it is really that time intensive.

Take care & I look forward to your next book.
(actually, I look forward to your current book hitting my area so
I can fold my mom her wedding Moose favor :^)

                              David Vaules Jr,
                              dvaules@bbn.com

"Come Pinky, a mind like yours belongs on Television"
                              The Brain, Pinky and the Brain
                              "Animaniacs"





Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 10:22:38 -0300
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Nasty Adhesives.

On 4/7/95, Nigel Pottle wrote about using Post-it(TM) glue to bond foil and
tissue, but that it didn't work very well at keeping the foil and tissue
connected/attached.  (BTW:  Thanks for that message, I thought it was very
interesting and not at all long winded)

Many others wrote about the utility and dangers of spray adhesives.

Having read the warning labels on the adhesives, and from reading the
messages in origami-l, I find the danger/caution/precautions of spray
adhesive unacceptable.  As Nigel mentioned, the Post-It(TM) glue stick
solution doesn't work very well.  One alternative that comes to mind is
backcoating.  I have never tried backcoating, but I know there are some
readers of this list who have.  Perhaps some of them will step forward and
talk about how well backcoating works with foil and tissue.  Perhaps tissue
is just too thin/unsubstantial to hold the backcoating without turning to
mush?  What about the foil/Unryu possibilities as an alternative?

-Doug Philips





Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 10:16:15 -0300
From: Tim Rueger <rueger@areaplg2.corp.mot.com>
Subject: Re: Cutting Techniques

Hi, All,

>>>>> "j" == Jeffrey z h t o f Tolmie <Jeffrey.z.h.t.o.f.Tolmie@zhflur.ch.ubs.ch
     > writes:

    j> The most frustrating part of folding, is cutting the paper. I
    j> guess I need at least a half hour to cut a perfect square. Since
    j> I am eager to begin folding, it taxes my patience having to take
    j> my time to measure and cut correctly. I use a 40cm metal ruler
    j> for cutting, and also as a baseline for a draftmans Right
    j> angle. I measure the paper size from two adjacent sides, and use
    j> the right angle to pencil lines at right angles to these points.
    j> Where the lines meet should be the fourth point of the square. It
    j> is usually about 0.5 mm off. I then have to stuff around
    j> measuring the length of all four sides, trying to figure out
    j> which edge has the error in it.

    j> I would like to hear from y'all how you prefer to cut paper and
    j> whether anyone else takes as long as me ;-)

I use a technique I saw on a home/fixit show that used a Pythagorean
triangle (sides 3/4/5 ratios) to establish accurate right angles for
garden plots or deck framing.  I've used this more or less by necessity,
since I don't have any draftsman's tools.  Just mark off three units
along one side of an angle, four units along another, and the marks
should be exactly five units apart.  Generally, I like to use as large a
triangle as possible to minimize measurement errors.

As for "squaring up" an quadrilateral with four equal sides, I use the
fact that the diagonals of a square are equal.  This also helps me fix
up pre-packaged origami papers that aren't quite "true".

I've found it's not a quick process (but maybe I just need more
practice) - the iterations around the square can get tedious.
Especially for larger squares, it's hard making sure I don't damage the
paper in my eagerness to fold.  :^)

-Tim
--
Tim Rueger             Motorola CCR&D IC Design Laboratory, IL02-2921
Fax  : (708) 538-4593  Internet: rueger@areaplg2.corp.mot.com





Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 12:18:37 -0300
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: Paperfolding cartoon characters

A recent message from David Vaules contains the first sig I have seen
that quotes the Brain, from the Animaniacs TV show. This, and recent
conversations about a Batman model lead me to the following question.
I would love to know if anyone can paperfold Yakko, Wakko and Dot --
they'd be great for Montroll's "inside-out" style of folding, being
largely black and white.  I'm not good at "organic" designs, all my
stuff if geometric.  Maybe I'll try to fold the water tower.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, call your local Fox station
and ask when the show is on in your town.  Not since Bugs Bunny baked
a cake for the Sheriff of Nottingham has such unhinged lunacy been
brought to the screen.

        -- jeannnine





Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 12:28:05 -0300
From: Lillian Sun <Lillian_Sun@mail.amsinc.com>
Subject: Re: Nasty Adhesives.

          Hi!

          I was wondering what was wrong/difficult about using REGULAR
          glue stick (as opposed to Post-It's *removable* glue stick)
          to attach foil to tissue....  I have used UHU's disappearing
          purple glue stick to do *small* batches of foil to tissue,
          and discovered that if you apply the glue to the foil only,
          and then !slowly! lay the tissue down (starting from one
          edge/side and smoothing it down as you go with a ruler or
          other flat object), it works well.

          The reason that you don't just plop the whole piece of
          tissue is that it is likely you'll get wrinkles/bubbles
          trapped under the surface (anyone who has used contact paper
          to "laminate" anything knows this firsthand!).  That's where
          the ruler is handy.

          Good luck!

          Cheers,
          Lillian
          Lillian_Sun@mail.amsinc.com





Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 12:45:58 -0300
From: DEWEY.D.M%wec@dialcom.Tymnet.COM
Subject:

        This request may seem a little out of season, but its only
     approximately 250 shopping days until Christmas, so-...
     I am trying to relocate the instructions for on origami nativity set
     that I made around (it seems like only yesterday) 20 years ago. The
     models, which I guess would be considered intermediate level, came
     from a large (200 to 300 page) hardbound book that I borrowed from a
     library in New Jersey. I made the set out of foil and it turned out
     very nicely. But now it is beginning to show its age, so I'd like to
     try it again if I can relocate the instructions. If anyone could help
     I would appreciate it.

                                                Thanks,
                                                Dave Dewey

     ______________________________________________________________________

     The ideas expressed herein are not those of my employer.





Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 12:44:07 -0300
From: Wadsworth Jeffrey T <jtw8340@usl.edu>
Subject: BlackDevil Angler

I can't seem to figure out ( step 43?? )... the one which calls for you to
pull out the trapped paper.  In the diagram, you end up with a colored tri-
angular flap on the left and a larger white triangle on the right which you are
     supposed to squash fold.  I've tried to get this configuration but keep
     ending
up with a *single* white flap ( on the bottom part ) when a *double* flap is
clearly indicated in the diagram.  In other words, I can't squash fold it.
Can anyone shed some light on this?  Thanks!

BoneFish





Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 12:56:18 -0300
From: Wadsworth Jeffrey T <jtw8340@usl.edu>
Subject: Nativity set

This is Robert Harbin's book, "Secrets of Origami".
Out of print, though I'm sure a library would carry it.  Mine does.

BoneFish





Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 13:23:11 -0300
From: jmarcoli@strata.com (John Marcolina)
Subject: BARF Information

Hi,
I would like to get more information about Bay Area Rapid Folders, which I
heard about on this list. I live in the bay area (San Jose), and would like
to hear about any local groups that exist. I don't have a lot of free time,
having two little ones at home, but if meetings were reasonably close to
home, I might be able to attend. I would like to know how often meetings are
held, at what time, and for how long.

Thanks in advance,

John Marcolina
jmarcolina@strata.com





Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 13:31:45 -0300
From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: BlackDevil Angler

>
> I can't seem to figure out ( step 43?? )... the one which calls for you to
> pull out the trapped paper.  In the diagram, you end up with a colored tri-
> angular flap on the left and a larger white triangle on the right which you
     are supposed to squash fold.  I've tried to get this configuration but
     keep ending
> up with a *single* white flap ( on the bottom part ) when a *double* flap is
> clearly indicated in the diagram.  In other words, I can't squash fold it.
> Can anyone shed some light on this?  Thanks!
I am doing this from memory. I started the model the other day. If the step
you are referring to is the first step at the top of a page...
You are in a sense peeling the paper and turning it inside out. Let the top
layer of the model open almost completely so that you can do this step. Then
look at the diagram and get the model to look the way it should. Again you
are in a sense reversing the paper.

--
Sheldon Ackerman
ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org
sheldon.ackerman@nycps.nycenet.edu





Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 13:47:01 -0300
From: pdc@lunch.engr.sgi.com (Paul Close)
Subject: Re: Favorite Books

Note, there's a file called oribooks.zip on the archive site that has many
of the isbn numbers you might like.  It's a bit out of date, though.

Engel - Folding the Universe.      ISBN: 0-394-75751-3

Montroll - Origami Sculptures      ISBN: 0-486-24792-9
         - Origami Sculptures, 2nd ed.         ISBN: 0-486-26587-0
         - North American Animals in Origami   ISBN: 0-486-28667-3
         - Birds in Origami         ISBN: 0-486-28341-0

Note, I happen to have Origami Sculptures (2nd ed) handy (because I brought
it into work today to show a co-worker!).  It has a different ISBN number.
So be careful -- you might get older editions, which might not be in print
even if the later editions are.

I would think that Dover would mail just about anywhere.  They are strictly
a "mail in your order" kind of place -- I don't know if there's even a phone
number for inquiries.  My catalogs are at home -- I can check later if you
like....

As for favorites, Origami Sculptures was my first "real" book, and still one
of my favorites.  I definitely like the "3d" models (i.e. ones that stand up
rather than lie flat).  Origami Sculptures has a very nice camel/dromedary.
The face/head is perfect!  There's also "Montroll's Dog Base" and "Montroll's
Insect Base", which you can use to make lots of different models.

My other favorite is Animal Origami for the Enthusiast, also by Montroll.
The turtle in that book was especially surprising, since it LOOKS like a
flat model, but when you fold it, it is delightfully 3d!  Nice thickness
to the shell and everything.  And it's easy to fold.  Also really nice from
that book is the lobster.  I find it's a very logical, straightforward fold,
and looks great when you're done.  My only criticism is the tail is too
wimpy, but the rest of the outer shell is great!  Also, use large, thin
paper.  I folded one from typing paper (8-1/2" square), and the resultant
model was only about 2 or 3 inches long!  I folded a second one from a 16"
square (wrapping paper), and that worked much better.

I also have Origami Sea Life, by Montroll/Lang, and Origami Zoo by
Lang/Weiss.  Both are nice books with a few favorites too.  The latter
has the fiendish Horsefly by Lang and a neat "Dog in a Doghouse" by Weiss,
and the former has the Chambered Nautilus Shell and the "impossible"
Blackdevil Angler that have been much discussed recently (Robert, if
you'd like to mail ME one, I'll change that to "near-impossible" :-).

BTW, I made the Chambered Nautilus from plain photocopy (typing) paper, and
it worked just fine.  No tearing or anything.  You can't hear the sea though
:-)

Finally, "Complete Book of Origami" by Lang looks promising.  I've ordered
it, but not yet received it.  My wife's a Biplane fan, so I couldn't resist!

If you don't get more help soon, let me know, and I'll dig up my Dover
catalogs.  If worse comes to worse, I'll even order the books and ship them
to you!  You can repay me in Swiss chocolate :-)
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Paul Close          pdc@sgi.com          http://reality.sgi.com/employees/pdc/

                     No fate but what we make
