




Date: Mon, 20 Mar 1995 21:53:25 -0400
From: Eric Tend <eric@hpisdaja.ptp.hp.com>
Subject: Cherry Blossom Festival, S.F.

Hello fellow Bay Area Rapid Folders,

Its time for the annual origami exhibit and demo at the Cherry Blossom
Festival in San Francisco's Japantown.  This year's event will be held
at the Miyako Hotel (1625 Post St.) on Sat 4-15, Sun 4-16, Sat 4-22, and
Sun 4-23 from 12 noon till 5 PM.  It is also a great excuse to take in the
other arts and crafts, exhibits, food booths and wonderful free
entertainment.

Robert Lang and Peter Engel are scheduled to have models on display.
Other models on display tentatively include the complex designs (and
twists) by Chris Palmer and Jeremy Shafer, dollar bill designs by
Eric Tend and Hoan Bui, single-piece connected crane designs
by Linda Mihara-Atcovitz, 1000 crane display, unit origami, and
hopefully many more ...

Anyone interested in displaying or teaching (paper will be available)
feel free to drop by.  For more information contact Vicky Mihara-Avery
at VickyAV@aol.com.  Setup should begin at around 9:30 AM on Sats.

--Eric--

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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 16:37:32 -0400
From: hull@hypatia.math.uri.edu
Subject: Re: MAJOR origami-math boo-boo

Hello intrepid origamists!

        I just put a response to the _Monthly_ article ("Totally Real
Origami and Impossible Paper Folding") in the .incoming subdirectory
in the archives (anonymous FTP at rugcis.rug.nl). I've also submitted
it for publication in the _Monthly_. Hopefully they will.
        Even if you haven't been following the controversy over this
article, I still might find my response interesting. (It's in the
file "OriNote.ps") I include diagrams for Hisashi Abe's elegant
method for trisecting an angle. I especially encourage the geometry
teachers out there to check this method out!

        To respond to some of you who asked questions last week:
        Bob Roos: There isn't any need for a "construction proof"
of this axiom as it is easily done by folding. That's the point of an
axiom - to nail down what can be done by folding a piece of paper.
Yes, the points p1 and p2 should NOT be on the line L1 and L2, but
the case p1=p2 is OK. If you want to learn more about this, I suggest
you either (1) read the references I give at the end of my "response"
article mentioned above or (2) convince the powers-that-be at your 
college that they should hire me to give a lecture there! I'm cheap too!

        Jerry Harris: Here's the scoop on the proceedings from those
two "Origami science" meetings: The proceedings from the first meeting
was self-published in 1991 by H. Huzita, and so far the only real way
to buy a copy was through him. But he lives in Italy, and I haven't heard
anyone say that they've succeeded in ordering a copy of him. BUT
Origami USA is supposed to be trying to order a slew of copies to make 
available to its members, so look in future Origami Source (OUSA's
supply center) catalogus. As for the proceedings for the 2nd Meeting,
the haven't come out yet. (Hell, the meeting was only last December!
These things tend to take time!) But rest assured, Origami USA will
get plenty of copies when it does come out.
        As for writing an "origami-math bibliography", I hope to do
this eventually. Yet my list of articles has grown so large that I
haven't been able to post references to all of them on origami-l!
COnstructing such a bibliography will be quite a task, so don't
hold your breath.

----------- Tom "thesis? What thesis?" Hull





Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 11:11:37 -0400
From: Rjlang@aol.COM
Subject: BOS Birmingham Convention

To any of our British members,

I will be traveling to England April 3-7 and noticed on an old BOS magazine
that the British Origami Society Spring Convention is April 8-9 in
Birmingham, which means I could stretch my stay to attend. Does anyone have a
name and/or phone number of the convention organizer(s)?

Robert J. Lang





Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 11:23:06 -0400
From: Bateman "A." "G." <agb@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: BOS Birmingham Convention

>
>To any of our British members,
>
>I will be traveling to England April 3-7 and noticed on an old BOS magazine
>that the British Origami Society Spring Convention is April 8-9 in
>Birmingham, which means I could stretch my stay to attend. Does anyone have a
>name and/or phone number of the convention organizer(s)?
>
>Robert J. Lang
>
>Hi Robert,
           Cool! :). Um , well, I know Rick Beech is doing the convention
book this year. I will find out for you tonight if no one else has.
What brings you to Sunny England? If you are in the vicinity of Cambridge
you would be more than welcome to come to our weekly meeting. How is
Treemaker 3 coming along? Pleeaase could you do a technical talk at the
convention. I would certainly come along and ask lots of questions.

I will give you the details later.

Yours Alex.





Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 17:13:19 -0400
From: "Richard Kennedy"@bham.ac.uk
Subject: BOS convention, Birmingham, Robert Lang.

Robert,
       I'm new to this computer mailing list, so I've only picked up
Alex's reply to your enquiry about the BOS convention. As Alex
indicated, Rick Beech has been organising the programme. Penny Groom
has been doing the bookings, I'm afraid I don't have her address or
'phone number with me right now - I'm fairly certain it is on the rear
cover of the BOS magazine. We are adding an extra digit to our 'phone
numbers in the UK, so that numbers that used to begin, for example
032 now begin 0132.
    Are you in need of local accommodation in Birmingham to allow you
to attend the convention? My home is no more than a mile from the
venue. Rick Beech, and Alex too (I think) will stay with me. There is
room for more, if you can face rather spartan conditions! I have two
beds, so there will have to be people on the floor - I'm arranging
to borrow some camping mats, so it should not be too bad. If this does
not appeal several other BOS members do live close to the venue, and
I would be willing to see if they could provide you with accommodation.

     I can be contacted by email, either by the origami-l list, or
directly, R.A.Kennedy at uk.ac.bham. (If this fails the full version
is kennedra at uk.ac.birmingham.ibm3090. My address and telephone
number are in the BOS members book, or send me a direct email and I'll
reply with them.

     I hope we will see you at the convention in Birmingham.

     Richard Kennedy.





Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 21:19:09 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: math conference

Hi!

I seem to remember someone mentioning a math conference or two on the list
awhile back. Has it already happened, and it it hasn't, how do I find more
info?

Thanks.

Dee





Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 10:46:25 -0400
From: LHODSDON@smith.smith.EDU
Subject: Re: math conference

One of them was probably Art & Math at SUNY Albany June 24-28. Those dates
should ring a bell. It's the same weekend as the Orimgami Convention in NY.

Arg!

For info, contact:
Nat Friedman
University at Albany, SUNY
1400 Washington Avenue
Albany, NY 12222
(518)442-4621 (office)
artmath@math.albany.edu

I'm attending A&M rather than origami in NY. I would be happy to meet any
other folders who choose Albany instead of NY.

Lisa





Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 23:12:33 -0400
From: cardiff!vann@uunet.uu.net (V'Ann Cornelius)
Subject: Re: math conference

>
>One of them was probably Art & Math at SUNY Albany June 24-28.
>
Lisa, when a university speaks of 'Art and Math' at the same time,
what type of topics do they discuss? Is there usually origami presented
as an art medium?
V'Ann
vann@cardiff.com





Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 05:07:27 -0400
From: "M.J.van.Gelder" <M.J.van.Gelder@rc.RUG.NL>
Subject: Origami Chessboard

Kim (and other people who will upload files),

I missed your message about the chessboard .gif files.
Because I want to know what is uploaded I urge you to send me a message
personally (see the from of this message).
So because I didn't know where the files came from I deleted them from the
.incoming directory.
Afterwards I read the mail of 10 March again and realised that you'd posted a
message about the files.
So please upload them again and I'll put them on the right place.

And DO SEND ME A PERSONAL message to tell me that the files are there.

Maarten van Gelder, Rekencentrum RuG, RijksUniversiteit Groningen, Holland





Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 12:56:11 -0400
From: Yusri Johan <gs01yyj@panther.Gsu.EDU>
Subject: Origami Homepage

Hi all,
I have just added some pictures to my homepage under the "Things that I
have folded."  They are all in JPEG format, so you have to click on the
words to view the finished models.  I am working on the GIF format for
those pictures.

Check it out.
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                      Georgia State University
                       Psychology & Communication
                  http://www2.gsu.edu/~gs01yyj/home.html
        Origami Page: http://www2.gsu.edu/~gs01yyj/origami/origami.html





Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 17:53:06 -0400
From: LHODSDON@smith.smith.edu
Subject: Re: math conference

I am a bad mail editor user so forgive my lack of quotation...
V'Ann asked "What goes on at an "Art & Math" conference?"

It's a sort of medium sized group (last year <100) of artists, mathematicians,
teachers, and people who think art and/or math is cool. They give talks about
where they see the two desciplines interacting in their work.

Some of this years lecture titles:
Dynamical Symmetry within Root Rectangles
Intuitive Topology in Sculpture
Intuitive Topology in Sculpture
Quilts, Islamic Art, Geometry, Museums and Education
Fractal Analysis of Early Chinese Landscape Paintings
Geometric CHoreography
Geometric Origami and Tesselations
Sculpture, Soap Films and Minimal Surfaces

THere's also usually lots of time to talk about other things. This is the
first time I have seen origami included as a lecture topic, though I have
certainly introduced some in between talks and in the evenings.

Lisa





Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 14:15:25 -0400
From: GD_ROPPENHEI@fair1.fairfield.edu
Subject: Re: math conference

Will some kind person post the details of the math conference ?
Thanks in advance.





Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 14:26:09 -0400
From: JMontroll@aol.com
Subject: new member

Hello everyone,

I just joined and hope to hear from you.

John Montroll





Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 17:02:19 -0400
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: new (?) model

I have just created a new modular design and I am wondering if anybody
has seen anything like it before.  Excuse for me for giving such a
technical description -- I am assuming that those most likely to know
if it's been done before will also understand my terminology.

The edges of an icosidodecahedron can also be viewed as the edges of 6
regular decagons that intersect in a single common point at the center
of each.  It is possible to draw a "decagram" inside a decagon by
starting with a vertex and drawing a straight line from it to the
third next vertex (skip two vertices), and so on, until you get back
to the starting point.  In the interior of this collection of crossing
lines is another, smaller decagon.  The part we are interested in is
the star shaped ring between the inner decagon and the outer decagram.
Make 6 of these (in 6 different colors!) in the 6 planes of the edges
of the icosidodecahedron.

The module is pretty easy to make.  I'll try to post directions later.

        -- jeannine mosely





Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 17:03:28 -0400
From: GRANTGV@MINNIE.HOLLINS.EDU
Subject: RE: new member

Hey john
welcome to the group. If you need any help with the new paper folding
techniques or have any questions just ask. We are a very supportive goup
and I consider many of the people on the network my closest friends. There
is a great counselling group if you ever just want someone to talk to.
Have a sunshine day.
Fondly,
Grantgv





Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 17:39:02 -0400
From: rshuster@netaxs.com (Bob Shuster)
Subject: RE: new member

>Hey john
>welcome to the group. If you need any help with the new paper folding
>techniques or have any questions just ask. We are a very supportive goup
>and I consider many of the people on the network my closest friends. There
>is a great counselling group if you ever just want someone to talk to.
>Have a sunshine day.
>Fondly,
>Grantgv

I found this helpful message amusing.  Grant - I'm sure John Montroll
appreciates the offer, but he is a well-known folder and origami author.
We should be asking *him* about the new folds!    - Bob

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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 18:12:22 -0400
From: Kim Best <Kim.Best@m.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: Re: new member

Hello John!

It is so exciting to see you have joined the group!  You are definately
my favorite folder.  I have all your books, and religiously order every
new book that comes out as soon as I can.

Speaking of which, can you tell give us a update on the availability of
your new books:  "Birds in Origami" and "North American Birds in
Origami".   I ordered the bird book resently, but got back a card saying
the book was not yet released.  When would be a good time to reorder
these books.

Kim Best                                  *************************
                                          *      Origamists       *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System         *  Are good with their  *
420 Chipeta Way #120                      *        Hands          *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108               *************************





Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 19:37:17 -0400
From: Cyrene Slegona <cslegona@ssi.edc.org>
Subject: Re: math conference

Are you referring to the NTCM Conference in Boston, starting on April 6th
thur to the 9th? It is the national conference and what else would you
like to know? I'll answer any questions to the best of my ability. Cheers.

On Sun, 26 Mar 1995 GD_ROPPENHEI@fair1.fairfield.edu wrote:

> Will some kind person post the details of the math conference ?
> Thanks in advance.





Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 19:39:35 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: John Mon

Perhaps Grant was being ironic with his offer to help John with folds??

Dee





Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 21:49:27 -0400
From: LHODSDON@smith.smith.edu
Subject: nctm conference

Oh. That's a good math conference too. I work down the street from it and
my boss has encouraged us all to attend as much as possible. Anybody here
who's going there want to arrange to fold over dinner one evening?

e-mail me directly so that the whole list doesn't have to suffer through the
agonies of organizing.

Lisa Hodsdon
lhodsdon@smith.smith.edu
(but I really work in Boston)





Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 11:14:12 -0400
From: sychen@ENH.NIST.GOV (Shi-Yew Chen \(a.k.a. Sy\))
Subject: Two questions?

Hello, everyone,

I am new to this list. Is there any book list about origami available on
line? I am also looking for any one piece/no cut published works for
oriental dragon (Chinese). Any direction would be appreciated.

Shi-Yew Chen (Sy)
Office TEL => (301)975-4675
E-Mail => sychen@enh.nist.gov
WWW => http://www.iia.org/~chens/syhome.htm





Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 11:58:44 -0400
From: Stamm@aol.com
Subject: Re: Two questions?

Shi-Yew Chen (Sy),

> I am new to this list. Is there any book list about origami available on
> line? I am also looking for any one piece/no cut published works for
> oriental dragon (Chinese). Any direction would be appreciated.

You may want to try V'Ann Cornelius'  Origami BBS (San Diego).  V'Ann keeps
the origami bibliography DB for OrigamiUSA and you may be able to access it
there.  I don't have the number right now. I can post it later...

Tom Stamm





Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 13:13:21 -0400
From: cardiff!vann@uunet.uu.net (V'Ann Cornelius)
Subject: polyhedrons

One of the forms that first caught my attention and drew me into
origami was the polyhedron from one piece of paper. Since then
I greatly enjoy the look of the modulars that I have seen.

But I have been wondering if there is more to them than their
visual aesthetics, since people in science seem to find them so
interesting.

I remember from somewhere that some shapes support molecular studies.
I don't know if I understood this correctly.

I'm not a mathematician but I wonder if it may be true that
all these tremendous shapes have a deeper use... meaning ... something?

V'Ann
vann@cardiff.com





Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 14:14:13 -0400
From: "Timothy J. Durow" <tdurow@tagore.helios.nd.edu>
Subject: hello?

hey there folks!
        i am new to this list and am just checking it out right now.
please let me know if you see this...actually, why don't i ask a question
and make it worthwhile...

        i did my first origami last week by making a crane shown on
netscape at "http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/baspitz/Origami/origami.html".
if that is yours, thanks, it was fun!

        my question then is where else can i find "origami in 20 steps or
less" type information on-line?  thanks for your help!  i look forward to
hearing some cool places to look!

        later all!

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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 15:30:53 -0400
From: Rob Rogers <ROGERSR@pvlink.k12.ar.us>
Subject: Hello

 I also am new to this listserv and also a novice at paper folding,
other than airplanes, but I am interested and willing to learn.
Thanks in advance,
Rob Rogers





Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 18:14:28 -0400
From: cardiff!vann@uunet.uu.net (V'Ann Cornelius)
Subject: Model Searches

FYI
Maarten has the model index on his system and he has
written a utility that will answer e-mail requests.

The address is:  maarten@info.service.rug.nl

the message need
only say........   oriindex [key] [key2...]

This will cause all models with [key] [key2...] to be mailed
to your address.

The program also will respond to the single word
help.

BTW... Joseph Wu has a terrific Chinese Dragon.

V'Ann
vann@cardiff.com





Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 18:29:11 -0400
From: casida@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Casida Mark)
Subject: polyhedrons

Hi all,

V'Ann Cornelius asked if polyhedra have some deeper meaning in,
say, chemistry.  The 3 dimensional shapes of molecules are very
important in chemistry.  Polyhedra show up here and there.  For
example, many transition metal coordination compounds
consist of either a tetrahedral or octahedral arrangement
of ligand molecules around a central metal atom.  Irregular
polyhedra also occur in chemistry.  For example, coordination compounds
may take the form of a square pyramid or a trigonal bipyramid.

Clusters of atoms also form an interesting area to search for
interesting forms.  A cluster of 4 argon atoms form the vertices
of a tetrahedron.  A cluster of 13 argon atoms form the 12 vertices
of an icosahedron plus one in the center.  The rules are different
for clusters of sodium atoms.  A cluster of 4 sodium atoms is a planar
rhombus.  A cluster of 7 sodium atoms is a pentagon with an atom capping
the face on each side of the pentagon.  And the most stable structure for
a cluster of 13 sodium atoms has very little symmetry (and is still
a matter of some debate)!  Nevertheless if we continue on until we
have solid sodium, the crystal structure is again very symmetrical.

I think there are deeper questions involved in all of this.  Do we
find symmetry in nature because we look for it or because that is
what nature prefers?  I suspect that the answer is a bit of both.

Perhaps beautiful and symmetric structures such as the ones I've
described above are part of the reason why chemists sometimes
seem to go out of their way to synthesize a new previously unknown
structure just because it is "beautiful".  One example is "cubane"
in which 8 carbon atoms form the vertices of a cube.

Finally, I cannot end this letter without mentionning the discovery
that a cluster of 60 carbon atoms forms a "soccer ball".  One of
the first names for this molecule was in fact "soccerene".  However
it is now almost universally known by the name "Buckministerfullerene"
(or simply "bucky ball") after the inventor of geodesic domes.

I'm interested in what types of polyhedra can be folded from a
single square sheet of paper.  I have a book with instructions
for some of these but haven't tried them yet.  Any tips from
people who have tried this type of figure?

                             ... Mark

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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 19:59:42 -0400
From: Cyrene Slegona <cslegona@ssi.edc.org>
Subject: Re: nctm conference

Lisa,

I am writing to you and giving this to "multiple recipients" because I
believe there are others out there that may be interested. I have already
spoken to some of them and a get-together has been discussed, but nothing
final yet.

There will be several presentations at the conference on origami. I don't
know the presenters, but I hope to attend those sessions.

I do know that there will be a mini course (all day) offered at the N.E.
regional mathematics conference in Portland, Maine, this fall on origami
and mathematics/geometry. Barbara Palicki of NH and I will be doing it
together. We are excited about doing this because there is never enough
time to cover all that we want to in two hour session so we have been
asked to do a day. I'll probably bring some of my students along that are
fanatic folder.

I teach 6th grader. One student really became intrigued
with the (?) zig-zag pattern in a book by Florence Tomoko(?). He has
inspired a group of his classmates to experiment with the pattern and
they are creating some marvelous take-offs.

I am staying at the Marriott-Copley, 110 Huntington. Please contact me. I
have some teacher colleagues who would also enjoy a fold session.

Excuse my wordyness. Cheers. Cyrene

On Mon, 27 Mar 1995 LHODSDON@smith.smith.edu wrote:

> Oh. That's a good math conference too. I work down the street from it and
> my boss has encouraged us all to attend as much as possible. Anybody here
> who's going there want to arrange to fold over dinner one evening?
>
> e-mail me directly so that the whole list doesn't have to suffer through the
> agonies of organizing.
>
> Lisa Hodsdon
> lhodsdon@smith.smith.edu
> (but I really work in Boston)





Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 10:48:05 -0400
From: Joseph Wu <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Chinese Dragons... (was Re: Model Searches)

On Tue, 28 Mar 1995, V'Ann Cornelius wrote:

> BTW... Joseph Wu has a terrific Chinese Dragon.

Thanks, V'ann. However, it's not diagrammed. I also have a new Chinese
Dragon, complete with scales along its back. I'll be showing it off at
Convention in June.

Joseph Wu      <jwu@cs.ubc.ca> | Witty quote is now back to the
Master's Student               |   drawing board due to squeamish
University of British Columbia |   readers. Any suggestions?
WWW: http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html (Origami Page)





Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 10:45:19 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: folding polyhedra

mark -

ou asked for tips on folding polyhedra - patience

Dee





Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 12:14:30 -0400
From: cardiff!vann@uunet.uu.net (V'Ann Cornelius)
Subject: Re:  polyhedrons

Thanks for your comments on the polyhedra in nature.
So again, art is imitating 'life', as it were.
I'm glad I asked.
V'Ann
vann@cardiff.com





Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 13:16:37 -0400
From: Wadsworth Jeffrey T <jtw8340@usl.edu>
Subject: Robert Lang

What is your favorite model by this folder?
I only have the praying mantis at present and I'm still amazed.

Thanks!

P.S.   I'm working on a cheetah figure... anyone else?





Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 13:56:39 -0400
From: Tim Rueger <rueger@areaplg2.corp.mot.com>
Subject: Re: Robert Lang

>>>>> "wjt" == Wadsworth Jeffrey T <jtw8340@usl.edu> writes:
    wjt> What is your favorite model by this folder?
    wjt> I only have the praying mantis at present and I'm still amazed.

Hi, All,

The praying mantis is indeed amazing.  And for being designed five or so
years ago, especially impressive (to me, anyway).

My favorite Lang model (and one of my all-time favorites, actually) is
Lang's Hermit Crab from Origami Sea Life (by Montroll and Lang).

It's an amazing study in contrasts.  The shell is one side of the paper,
and the crab's body is the other, so you get really good color contrast
with appropriate paper.  The shell is has an excellent feel of volume to
it, while the body is a mass of spiky points, so there's a "density"
contrast.  Also, the shell is asymmetric, with a spiral on one side,
while the body is very mirror-symmetric, so there's symmetry contrast in
it as well.

It's just a really cool model, and actually not *too* difficult to fold
- I got it done on my first shot.  Origami Sea Life is one of my two or
three favorite origami books.  (Check out Montroll's Blue Shark on the
cover - another particularly excellent model.)

I'll stop drooling now.  :^)
-Tim

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Fax  : (708) 538-4593  Internet: rueger@areaplg2.corp.mot.com





Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 16:04:23 -0400
From: bunk@bunk.seanet.com (Gary Bunker)
Subject: Seattle Supplies

I am looking for a Seattle/Tacoma area supplier of Origami papers.  Any help?
Tacoma is preferable, but I'll go to Seattle if needed.  All I can find is
six inch or smaller paper, and some of those Montroll and Lang models just
aren't happening with that size.  Thanks for any help.
 GGGG     A    RRRR   Y   Y
G    G   A A   R   R  Y   Y
G       A   A  R   R   Y Y
G       A   A  RRRR     Y
G  GGG  AAAAA  R   R    Y
G    G  A   A  R   R    Y
 GGGG   A   A  R   R    Y





Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 17:02:28 -0400
From: JMontroll@aol.com
Subject: books

Hi everyone,

Thanks for the welcome! I'll be glad to tell you anything about my origami.
Some of you were asking about the availability of my new books 'Birds in
Origami' and 'North American Animals in Origami'. Both are out, you can try
book shops, Origami USA, or Dover Publications (31 E 2nd st, Mineola NY
11501). If all else fails, you can order the north american book from me
($9.95 + $2 postage, 2616 Elmont St, Wheaton MD 20902).

Is anyone from Japan on this list?

Bye,  John Montroll





Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 18:23:21 -0400
From: txa14@rabbit.INS.CWRU.Edu (Tim Arai)
Subject: Re: books

>Is anyone from Japan on this list?
>

Well I am Japanese.  Although I'm not into the heavy origami like some of
you are (it's just a hobby that I partake in once in a while) I was
introduced to origami when my mom showed me a small origami book when I was
around 5.
Since I've lived in the U.S. most of my life, I can't say that I'm totaly
Japanese but it's nice that I can get an origami book in Japanese and be
able to read and understand the writing. :)

Tim
-----------
"So understand
 Don't waste your time always searching for those wasted years.
 Face up...make your stand
 And realize you're living in the golden years."
-"Wasted Years" by Iron Maiden in Somewhere in Time





Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 21:05:54 -0400
From: Kellie <KELLIECASS@delphi.com>
Subject: Flying Fish

     I am very new here so apologize if I am doing something
wrong!
     But I would greatly appreciate information about where
I could get the pattern for the origami flying fish everyone
raves about. I haven't seen it in any books I've found.
     Thank you so much!
                                       Kellie Cass
                                       a/k/a "Sassy Cassie"





Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 00:15:04 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: flying fish

Kellie Cass was asking about a flying fish. I wonder, are you referring to
the sailfish in Robert Lang/John Montroll's _Origami Sea Life_? It's the only
flying fish I can think of off the top of my head, and that book seems to
have been under discussion a lot lately...

If there is another flying fish, I'd be interested in hearing about it, too.

Speaking of OSL, all the discussion several weeks ago about the chambered
nautilus got me interested, and I finally had a chance to sit down and try it.
After a couple of false starts, I finally figured out everything EXCEPT how to
keep the paper from shredding when I go to pull the crimps out in about step
23 (I think) Any suggestions? Thanks!

Dee





Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 01:37:32 -0400
From: jdharris@teal.csn.net (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: books

Hi John! -

        I've got both your new books on back-order from our local bookstore
-- although they're "out," apparently at least some distributors are having
some problem getting them to the shelves (our store works through 3 of
them, and none are helping)!  Just so no one is disappointed.  They _are_
there, but it may be a while before we see them!

Jerry D. Harris
Denver Museum of Natural History
2001 Colorado Blvd.
Denver, CO  80205
(303) 370-6403

Internet:  jdharris@teal.csn.net
CompuServe:  73132,3372

--)::)>   '''''''''''''/O\'''''''''''`  Jpq--   =o}\   w---^/^\^o

OOO f the Earth's many creatures, not all did survive.
O   O Only those that adapted are today still alive!
OOO Those that couldn't -- or wouldn't -- are with us no more:
The most famous of these is the great dinosaur!
"Evolution," they call it; a 10-dollar word.
That's how nature, in time, from a fish, made a bird.

                                                -- Martin J. Giff

--)::)>   '''''''''''''/O\'''''''''''`  Jpq--   =o}\   w---^/^\^o





Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 04:26:38 -0400
From: "Bateman A. G." <agb@mrc-lmb.cam.AC.UK>
Subject: Montroll Sharks

>Thanks for the welcome! I'll be glad to tell you anything about my origami.
>
>Bye,  John Montroll
>

Hi John,
        Your Blue shark is a big favourite of mine. Have you designed and
published any more? I saw a Great white, Hammerhead and Blue shark design
in a Kasahara book ( I don't know the name). I was told these models
are yours. Is this true?

Alex Bateman





Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 04:34:06 -0400
From: Bateman "A." "G." <agb@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Cheetah

>P.S.   I'm working on a cheetah figure... anyone else?

Dear Jeffrey,
             Good luck, I have found that anything feline is
nigh impossible to design. I'm not sure why, but it could be
because cats are so familiar to us. There are also very few
good human figure models!

Alex Bateman





Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 09:49:39 -0400
From: jdharris@teal.csn.net (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: flying fish

>Kellie Cass was asking about a flying fish. I wonder, are you referring to
>the sailfish in Robert Lang/John Montroll's _Origami Sea Life_? It's the only
>flying fish I can think of off the top of my head, and that book seems to
>have been under discussion a lot lately...
>
>If there is another flying fish, I'd be interested in hearing about it, too.
>
>Speaking of OSL, all the discussion several weeks ago about the chambered
>nautilus got me interested, and I finally had a chance to sit down and try it.
>After a couple of false starts, I finally figured out everything EXCEPT how to
>keep the paper from shredding when I go to pull the crimps out in about step
>23 (I think) Any suggestions? Thanks!

Dee et al -

        A sailfish is most emphatically _not_ the same as a flying fish!
Completely different animals!  The only origami flying fish I've seen is
one of Yoshizawa's, in _Sosasku Origami_.  It's not that great.  But, if
you think about what a flying fish looks like, you can also see that it
shouldn't be that hard to invent one!...

Jerry D. Harris
Denver Museum of Natural History
2001 Colorado Blvd.
Denver, CO  80205
(303) 370-6403

Internet:  jdharris@teal.csn.net
CompuServe:  73132,3372

--)::)>   '''''''''''''/O\'''''''''''`  Jpq--   =o}\   w---^/^\^o

OOO f the Earth's many creatures, not all did survive.
O   O Only those that adapted are today still alive!
OOO Those that couldn't -- or wouldn't -- are with us no more:
The most famous of these is the great dinosaur!
"Evolution," they call it; a 10-dollar word.
That's how nature, in time, from a fish, made a bird.

                                                -- Martin J. Giff

--)::)>   '''''''''''''/O\'''''''''''`  Jpq--   =o}\   w---^/^\^o





Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 10:06:20 -0400
From: Tim Rueger <rueger@areaplg2.corp.mot.COM>
Subject: chambered nautilus tips (was Re: flying fish)

>>>>> "btl" == BOB T LYNCH <blynch@du.edu> writes:
    btl> Speaking of OSL, all the discussion several weeks ago about the
    btl> chambered nautilus got me interested, and I finally had a
    btl> chance to sit down and try it.  After a couple of false starts,
    btl> I finally figured out everything EXCEPT how to keep the paper
    btl> from shredding when I go to pull the crimps out in about step
    btl> 23 (I think) Any suggestions? Thanks!

Hi, All,

A short answer: avoid standard kami-weight paper.

I met Michael LaFosse at his Boston area exhibit last October.  I
related virtually the same story to him, and he said that the problem
wasn't necessarily my folding, but that the *paper* was the problem.

He suggested that you need *very* high quality paper to do that model.
Perhaps washi, or some other long-fibered paper.  (Here's a scary
thought: has anyone tried wet-folding it?)

-Tim
--
Tim Rueger             Motorola CCR&D IC Design Laboratory, IL02-2921
Fax  : (708) 538-4593  Internet: rueger@areaplg2.corp.mot.com





Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 09:58:02 -0400
From: jdharris@teal.csn.net (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: Cheetah

>             Good luck, I have found that anything feline is
>nigh impossible to design. I'm not sure why, but it could be
>because cats are so familiar to us. There are also very few
>good human figure models!

Alex -

        I agree that cats are really difficult to fold and have the result
be as lithe as a real cat -- Pat Crawford's "Stalking Cat" comes very
close, but I don't like the head.  My favorite is an unpublished model of a
Dollar Bill Cat by Stephen Weiss...it is excellent, and I'd like to find a
way to mimic it from a square!  Unfortunately, due to one particular aspect
of the head folds, unperceptive persons failing to notice the shape of the
body usually end up asking if it's a schnauzer...  8-)

Jerry D. Harris
Denver Museum of Natural History
2001 Colorado Blvd.
Denver, CO  80205
(303) 370-6403

Internet:  jdharris@teal.csn.net
CompuServe:  73132,3372

--)::)>   '''''''''''''/O\'''''''''''`  Jpq--   =o}\   w---^/^\^o

OOO f the Earth's many creatures, not all did survive.
O   O Only those that adapted are today still alive!
OOO Those that couldn't -- or wouldn't -- are with us no more:
The most famous of these is the great dinosaur!
"Evolution," they call it; a 10-dollar word.
That's how nature, in time, from a fish, made a bird.

                                                -- Martin J. Giff

--)::)>   '''''''''''''/O\'''''''''''`  Jpq--   =o}\   w---^/^\^o





Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 10:55:20 -0400
From: Cynthia Pettit <pettit@cs.unc.edu>
Subject: Re: Robert Lang

My favorite Lang model is the origamiist!  It's a little man folding a
paper crane -- and if you pull on his head and feet he flaps the
crane!  [Gives me a "recursive" feeling -- me, and origamiist,
"flapping" a man flapping a crane...  I still wish he would make
an origamiist making an *origamiist*, flapping a crane!! :) :) :) ]

I also like his guitarist because I can fold it for performers at
concerts!  David Wilcox and Leo Kottke are two I've given them to!

I like Lang's "action" models!  I'm psyched about getting his new
book!

Oh!  Almost forgot: the origamiist is in the very first "Models by
Members" from OUSA [$7] and the guitarist is in another OUSA book but
I don't remember which year.  Both, he says, will be in his new
"Action Origami" book [due out sometime next year, I think...?]

Cyn
--
        "It's not about driving down rt 66 and stopping at the Holiday Inn!
               It's about *adventure*!!"
                          ---Richard P Feynman





Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 12:09:01 -0400
From: ACPQUINN@middlebury.edu
Subject: Lang's Guitarist

Hallo all...

I noticed Lang's Guitarist model mentioned in a recent message and it jogged my
memory about a problem I had with that model.  I swear I have made it before
with no problems, but twice I tried it recently and to no avail.  The problem
comes early on; I don't have the book with me, else I would name the step, but
it's just after two flaps are folded up and to the right, and you have to pull
a long flap out and down.  The text says that there is some loose paper that
will come free.  The problem is that there is some loose paper, but that it
does no good; the paper invariably rips or comes close to doing so and  I give
up.  Is there something I am doing wrong, or is there something wrong in the
diagrams? Could anyone out there, Robert or otherwise, give me a push in the
right direction?
Incidentally, I was doin this model at a Home and Garden show where I was
selling my models, boxes, and geometrics, and someone wanted a guitarist for
her boyfriend.  When I failed twice on this one, I went to my reserves and
folded Neal Elias' Andres Segovia.  She was quite happy with that one :)

-Alasdair Post-Quinn-
acpquinn@middlebury.edu

P.S. in one of the recent Convention books, there is a grasshopper (Lang's, I
think) that is missing the last page.  Does anyone know where to get the last
page? Or, if it is Robert's model, is it going to be in the new Insects Book?





Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 12:40:41 -0400
From: hull@hypatia.math.uri.edu
Subject: Re: chambered nautilus tips (was Re: flying fish)

Hey there!
        I love the Chambered Nautilus model, and I've been able to make
it with any kind of paper I want.  BUT I don't follow Robert Lang's
instructiions!  Sorry Rob, but the method of "popping" open the
spirals is very hard on the paper and tends to tear.
        So my suggestion is to totally skip that "popping" step (I don't
have the book with me now, so I don't know the step number).  Instead
maneuver the paper into it's spiral shape on your own - all the creases
are there (I think) so just do it!  (It's kinda like making Matthew
Green's "Wave", or any other pattern fold.)
        That probably doesn't help much. Sorry.  Just don't follow the
diagrams - study what the model is supposed to become and get their
via your own route.  The paper need not tear!

------------- Tom "hard and tenderly" Hull





Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 13:08:30 -0400
From: Wadsworth Jeffrey T <jtw8340@usl.edu>
Subject: Akira 's Monkey

First of all... Welcome John Montroll!!  What other newsletter group can claim
access to such high profile masters?  I almost fell out of my chair when I
noticed Robert Lang's insignia... wow!

Do the diagrams for Akira's Swivel Monkey exist anywhere?  This fine model
got me started in Origami but I could never find the instructions.

I have only access to Harbin's "Secrets of Origami" and a few others.
I've yet to fold any of Montroll's models and have only tackled Lang's
Praying Mantis... envy me!  ;>)

Thanks for your time





Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 13:26:10 -0400
From: MKFIRE@aol.com
Subject: Re: Lang's Guitarist

I have the last page of instructions to Robert Lang's grasshopper-it was
copied but not bound into the annual that I received at the Convention last
year.  If you email your name & address to me I would be happy to send you a
copy of the last page.
Marsha





Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 13:35:30 -0400
From: BPearl@eworld.com
Subject: More NCTM

Dear Origami Families and Elementary Educators:

I will be presenting 2 workshops at the National Math Conferences in Boston.

 On April 5, National Council of Supervisors of Mathematics NCSM "Math in
Motion: Integrating Math and Art to Relieve Math Anxiety." On April 7,
National Council of Teachers of Mathematics NCTM, Math in Motion: Origami in
the Classroom (MIM). My workshops are geared for (K-6).

I will be staying at the Sheraton Hotel and Towers, April 4-8 adjacent to the
Hynes Convention Center. I look forward to meeting you.  For more
information, please email or  leave a message at the Hotel (617) 236-2000.
 If you cannot attend, but would like to learn more about MIM, send a SASE
to: MIM, 2417 Vista Hogar, Newport Beach, CA  92660.  Wish me luck!
Barbara "got my taxes done!" Pearl





Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 15:53:04 -0400
From: pdc@lunch.engr.sgi.com (Paul Close)
Subject: Re: Robert Lang

> The praying mantis is indeed amazing.  And for being designed five or so
> years ago, especially impressive (to me, anyway).

This piqued my interest.  So I printed out the praying mantis and gave it a
whirl.  Steps 8-11 have got to be the most twisted, devlishly complex folds
I have seen since his horse fly model!  (and I mean that as a compliment :)
I suspect the chronology is reversed, but that's the order I saw them in....

Someone mentioned that Montroll's models tend to define the line between
intermediate and advanced.  I agree, and would add that Lang's models define
the line between advanced and insane!  Let me explain....

Montroll's models are always impressive looking, and in most cases, not too
hard to fold (well, in an advanced sort of way).  As an example, the American
Lobster in Animal Origami for the Enthusiast.  This is a great model, with
over a hundred steps, yet the whole thing progresses very smoothly and
logically.  I found it very easy and relaxing to fold.  The only tricky
part is at the end, where you are folding around 20(!) layers at once for
the legs.  But it works, and looks great!

On the other hand, Lang's models always have me gaping in amazement (if not
outrage) at the audacity of some folds.  Until I figure them out, of course,
and then I'm just plain impressed.  Lang's models are anything but relaxing,
but when I'm done there's a certain perverse pleasure in having "solved the
puzzle".  As an example, the Horse Fly (in Origami Zoo, I think) is a
torturous fold!  At one point in the model, you unfold practically the
entire model, change about half the valleys to mountains and vice versa,
then (in one step!) refold into a completely different shape.  It's not
always fun, but it's challenging, which is just as good :-)

In case it's not clear, I admire both folders for the wonderful models they
create.  I'm just impressed at the difference between their respective
approaches.  Vive la difference, as they say!

P.S. It's great to have both of these accomplished folders on the list.
Welcome to the list, John!
--
Paul Close          pdc@sgi.com          http://reality.sgi.com/employees/pdc/

                     No fate but what we make





Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 16:08:57 -0400
From: Lee Kinkade <kinkale@quincy.edu>
Subject: Papers in the Chicago Area

I am moving to the Chicago area soon. Does anyone know of a good place
to get origami paper there?

Lee

P.S.  Is there a faq for this list?

-----
kinkale@shamino.quincy.edu        | "vi,vi,vi editor of the beast."---A.E.M
"If you don't want to know the answer, don't ask the question." ---D.L.K.





Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 17:35:09 -0400
From: jmarcoli@Strata.COM (John Marcolina)
Subject: Re: Re: Robert Lang

Hi Everyone,
I agree completely with Paul Close about the differences between Montroll's
and Lang's folding. I think it would be very easy to identify one or the
other's models based on folding technique alone!
As for my favorite Lang model (of those I've successsfully folded!), I think
it would be the Cicada. I used some very thin, very strong yellow paper I
found in an art store (it was called canary, or something). Unfortunately, it
folded a little like foil, in that it held a crease well, but it didn't
reverse well at all! The final result was, however, spectcular. And I, like
Paul, was pleasantly exhausted!

John Marcolina
jmarcolina@strata.com





Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 19:34:18 -0400
From: Ginger Beal <gab138@arts.usask.ca>
Subject: books

I'm new to the internet, but i've been folding on my own for about 3
years. after reading all the messages on here and seeing all the possible
new designs i can learn i find i want them all :), do could someone
please tell me some good books, especily that one with the man folding a
crane and the crane flaps in it.

i've been exploring and i found the praying mantis (i dont know any of
the creators of these), i just tred it for the first time today and i got
stuck on step #9 going to 10, i cant make sence of it. (the creator is
Lang, i looked it up).

Ginger





Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 20:00:16 -0400
From: Kevin Thorne <C598033@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu>
Subject: Models

     Mr. Wu, from all you have written on this list and what others have
written about you, it sounds like you have created enough models to put
together your own book.  Has that been done?  Will it?
     Also, several of the models mentioned lately sound quite exciting.
One's like the Chambered Nautilis and Guitarist for example except it wasn't
mentioned what books they are in.  Also, one person on the list said he
"printed out" the instructions for Lang's praying mantis.  Are the instructions
for this model (and other complicated ones) in the archives.  If so how
can they be retrieved.
                        Thanks,

                        Kevin Thorne





Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 20:43:08 -0400
From: pdc@lunch.engr.sgi.com (Paul Close)
Subject: Re: books

> i've been exploring and i found the praying mantis (i dont know any of
> the creators of these), i just tred it for the first time today and i got
> stuck on step #9 going to 10, i cant make sence of it. (the creator is
> Lang, i looked it up).

This was one of the hardest steps for me too (the hardest was 47!).  First
of all, make sure you do an open sink.  There should be a little flap inside,
as shown in step 9.  The mountain fold in step 9 becomes the edge of the
diamond shape in step 10, and the valley vold becomes the vertical line.  The
part you push up becomes the min-peak in the middle of the diamond shape.

Hope this helps....
--
Paul Close          pdc@sgi.com          http://reality.sgi.com/employees/pdc/

                     No fate but what we make





Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 23:37:05 -0400
From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: Models

>
>      Mr. Wu, from all you have written on this list and what others have
> written about you, it sounds like you have created enough models to put
> together your own book.  Has that been done?  Will it?
>      Also, several of the models mentioned lately sound quite exciting.
> One's like the Chambered Nautilis and Guitarist for example except it wasn't
> mentioned what books they are in.  Also, one person on the list said he
> "printed out" the instructions for Lang's praying mantis.  Are the
     instructions
> for this model (and other complicated ones) in the archives.  If so how
> can they be retrieved.
>                         Thanks,
>
>                         Kevin Thorne
>
You can find the Chambered Nautilus Shell in _Origami Sea Life_ by John
Montroll and Robert J. Lang. The book contains models by both Montroll and
Lang. The last page lists the models according to their designers.
Can't help you with the Guitarist, but in _The Complete Book Of Origami_ by
Lang, you can find a Violinist, Bassist, and Pianist.

--
Sheldon Ackerman
ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org
sheldon.ackerman@nycps.nycenet.edu





Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 02:18:25 -0400
From: Joseph Wu <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Re: Models

On Thu, 30 Mar 1995, Kevin Thorne wrote:

>      Mr. Wu, from all you have written on this list and what others have
> written about you, it sounds like you have created enough models to put
> together your own book.  Has that been done?  Will it?

Please call me Joseph (or Joe). I'm still young enough that "Mr. Wu"
makes me think of my father! 8)

As for a book, yes, that will be started after the end of April. I'm
pushing to finish my Master's thesis right now. There has been enough
pressure for me to consider attempting a book. At least, there has been
enough demand for diagrams of my models--whether or not people are
willing to pay for them is another matter entirely! 8) Hopefully, I'll
have a manuscript ready by the end of the year. Then comes the daunting
prospect of finding a publisher...although I do have a few leads already.

Joseph Wu      <jwu@cs.ubc.ca> | Witty quote is now back to the
Master's Student               |   drawing board due to squeamish
University of British Columbia |   readers. Any suggestions?
WWW: http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html (Origami Page)





Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 02:57:22 -0400
From: Jeffrey.z.h.t.o.f.Tolmie@zhflur.ch.ubs.ch
Subject: Cicadas and paper (was Re:Robert Lang)

Hi all,

>I agree completely with Paul Close about the differences between Montroll's
>and Lang's folding. I think it would be very easy to identify one or the
>other's models based on folding technique alone!

The styles are very distinctive. John "unfold everything" Montroll has
a way of creating beautifully detailed models with simple steps. The
blue shark in Origami Sea Life is an excellent example of this.
Robert "sink all 30 claws" Lang on the other hand is going to take
your skill (and your sanity) to the limit. The resulting 3D models are
anatomically amazing...

>As for my favorite Lang model (of those I've successsfully folded!), I think
>it would be the Cicada.

.. and this is one of the best examples of that. Once you get it right,
including the last few tweezer assisted surgical adjustments to the head,
and if you chose the right paper, it will take your breath away. A while ago
the Gerbil (also from "The Complete Book of Origami") replaced the
traditional crane as my meditatory piece, ie, the piece to do to keep my
fingers busy, or to while away time in the delightful european trains I
spend so much time in. It has a nice structural simplicity reminiscent
of the traditional Japanese models. Anyway, I have one that sits on top
of my monitor and peers out the window. People notice it and say,
"Oh, look! That's that Japanese, um, what's it called, obiwami or
something." "ORIGAMI, yes that's right", I say. "but have  you seen this!"
and point to the cicada and scorpion models locked in combat at the
base of my monitor. They go very quiet with disbelief.

>I used some very thin, very strong yellow paper I
>found in an art store (it was called canary, or something). Unfortunately, it
>folded a little like foil, in that it held a crease well, but it didn't
>reverse well at all!
As I suppose all of us "intermediates" do, I am ever on the lookout for
good paper for folding. I have long since given up asking in craft stores,
since the worker droids there have very simple programming:-

        if(customer says "origami") {
               get prepacked origami paper
        }

which as we all know is too thick, too unforgiving and outrageously
innaccurate. They (the worker droids) also have that quaint old
european tendency to argue with you that they know what you want
better than you do. So I just say I am looking and proceed to ferret through
every nook and cranny of the store for that perfect sheet of paper. The
droid usually follows me around with a perplexed expression on it's face
not quite knowing what to do next. (I told you their programming was
simple).

Well one day I found a little shop in Zurich which sells stationery
supplies and had one of these origamiist - sales_droid encounters.
I spied some wrapping paper that I suppose you would call tissue paper.
However, this paper had a sort of metalic sheen to it, and whatever it was
that the manufacturer used to achieve that sheen had the side effect of
transforming usually cantankerous tissue paper into the most amazing
origami paper I have yet found. It has excellent tensile strength, making it
resistant to tears. It is also almost totally forgiving. This means that
crease lines are basically invisible. Being tissue, it is extremely thin
and this is very important for models like the cicada.

So, I carefully pull out one sheet of this stuff from the rack, selecting one
with no bent edges or tears. I hold it draped over my two findertips and
hand it to the sales droid. "I'll take this please", I say, "but under no
circumstances are you to crease this sheet". Well as you can imagine
the droid is no longer perplexed, but convinced that she is dealing with
a madman here. Not wanting to do anything wrong at this stage, she
complies with my request and sells me one 20cent sheet of tissue
paper rolling it obediently in a piece of ordinary shop wrapping paper.
Deciding that smiling is the safest course of action, she bids me goodbye.

The properties of this paper are, as I said, excellent for complex folds.
The drawback is that the early stages of folding are very time consuming
since the precreasing is very light. For example, folding a simple preliminary
fold is hampered by the fact that the paper wants to unfold itself! Once
you are a few steps on the fold will keep itself locked together and
the rest is sheer delight.

I know that stories like this are probably frustrating or irritating to some,
since we are talking about paper that nobody else is going to be able to
get. (I went back to that store, by the way, and tried to get the droid to
guarantee me that they would never stop selling that paper. Unable to
do so, I promptly bought most of the stock.) However, my point is that
you will probably encounter similar paper wherever you might live. For
complex 3D folds like insects and crustaceans you need:-

        1. Thin               there will be lots of layeres
        2. Strong      there will be stretching and pulling
        3. Forgiving   there will be unfolding and reversing

Just one last thing, there is no one perfect paper for Origami.

>The final result was, however, spectcular. And I, like
>Paul, was pleasantly exhausted!
I am by no means an excellent folder. It took about 4-5 tries to get it
perfect and I need about 4 hours to fold it. "Pleasantly exhasted" is
a nice description.

sheesh, and I was only going to write a quick reply,

have a great day all!

Jeff Tolmie
Zurich, Switzerland.

Jeffrey.Tolmie@zhflur.ubs.ubs.ch

(yes, it really is two ubs's!)





Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 03:03:41 -0400
From: moconnel@cats.ucsc.edu (Michael O'Connell)
Subject: Re: Re: Robert Lang

>Hi Everyone,
>I agree completely with Paul Close about the differences between Montroll's
>and Lang's folding. I think it would be very easy to identify one or the
>other's models based on folding technique alone!

Indeed, I've done so my self working through _Origami_Sea_Life_.

Hello,
I just joined the list so bear with me.
I just thought I'd say that although Montroll's models are usually less
sophisticated with regards to major model disassembly and refolding , they
often contain brilliant twists and turns.  When folding a model for the
first time and a head, tail or other part materializes unexpectedly by a
fold that causes a chain-reaction fold elsewhere I can hardly keep from
laughing out loud.  Montrol is amazing.
When I can figure them out, Lang's models are fascinating in part  because
they are SO dense and the subject so immaginative.  He establishes the
high-water mark to which one can aspire; I'm certainly not there yet!
Origami literature is sparse at the local bookstores. Where can I find these
newsletters I've been hearing about?  Is there a FAQ somewhere? (..a newbie
remember)
