




Date: Sun, 26 Feb 1995 21:43:56 -0400
From: jdharris@teal.csn.net (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Postscript in Archives for Mac

Hey Gang! -

        In re my now couple-week-old post on my inability to view the
Postscript files of diagrams in the archives of this forum, I have found a
way to do it on my Mac -- and thought that other Mac persons would benefit
from this trick.

        When downloading graphic files for a Mac from an ftp site, such as
the rugcis.rug.nl one, they are assigned a "file type" and a "creator type"
by the Mac; I was using the very common ftp program called Fetch.  Now,
Fetch allows you to specify which file and creator types are default for
your computer -- different programs are able to read different kinds.  The
default types for the Mac are ???? and ???? for both -- and, as far as I
know, there aren't _any_ programs that will read that type!  That was my
problem.

        Now, depending on which program you will want to use to view and/or
print the Postscript files will depend on which file and creator types you
tell Fetch to use.  The only way I know how to decide which is to see what
the default types are for a document created by your existing graphics
program.  You can do this with the program ResEdit -- please remember, when
using ResEdit, to _always_ use it on copies of files, not the originals!!!
-- with its "Get File/Folder Info" command.  (I have heard that other
programs, such as some of the Norton Utilities, will also allow you access
to this information, but I don't know how to do it!)  Do take note of the
four-character codes, and whether or not they are in upper-case or
lower-case letters -- that does make a difference!

        I decided, upon recommendation of various kind and helpful persons
in this forum to use the program Drop PS, which sends Postscript files
direct to my printer (an HP LaserJet 4M, which does Postscript native).  I
obtained this from CompuServe; I have no idea where it's located on the
'Net.  The codes I found useful for this are:  EPSF for the file type, and
ARTY for the creator.  (These are actually formats for Aldus FreeHand 3.1;
FreeHand is a Postscript-oriented program, so these work well).  After
this, they print out nice and clean -- and, if I so desire, I can view them
in FreeHand first.

        Hope this helps someone!

Jerry D. Harris
Denver Museum of Natural History
2001 Colorado Blvd.
Denver, CO  80205
(303) 370-6403

Internet:  jdharris@teal.csn.net
CompuServe:  73132,3372

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OOO f the Earth's many creatures, not all did survive.
O   O Only those that adapted are today still alive!
OOO Those that couldn't -- or wouldn't -- are with us no more:
The most famous of these is the great dinosaur!
"Evolution," they call it; a 10-dollar word.
That's how nature, in time, from a fish, made a bird.

                                                -- Martin J. Giff

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Date: Sun, 26 Feb 1995 21:46:24 -0400
From: GD_ROPPENHEI@fair1.fairfield.edu
Subject: Re: How do _you_ memorize folds?

I would love some pointers on memorizing complex folds..





Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 07:00:42 -0400
From: "Mr B.R. Stephens" <bruce@liverpool.ac.uk>
Subject: Since we're plugging books...

On the subject of books, Dave Brill tells me that his first book should
be available this summer, or thereabouts.
--
Bruce                   Institute of Advanced Scientific Computation
bruce@liverpool.ac.uk   University of Liverpool





Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 08:52:53 -0400
From: Yusri Johan <gs01yyj@panther.Gsu.EDU>
Subject: Re: What do you do with your origami models?

Penelope R. Chua writes:
> .....<deleted lines>.........
> have almost made it to the completed model!  Despite all this, I am
> eagerly awaiting Mr. Lang's new insect book.  I hope there are more flies
> in there to fold for my friend!
>

I always have a fascination with insect models.  Mr. Lang's origami insect
book will be a perfect gift I can buy for myself eventhough it won't be my
birthday by the time the book is available 8:-).  By the way, have you or
any of this list subscribers seen a bee model with a realistic look (that is
complete with legs and a sting at the end of the abdomen)?  Please let me
know if you have.

> So what's your most memorable use of an origami model?
>

Last year, a week before X'mas, a lady with whom I used to work with gave
a present wrapped in a Christmas wrapping paper (green with lots of
mistletoe printed on it) since that was my last day at work. I told her
that I am going to fold her a dog (she loves dogs) from that wrapping
paper in return of the present. I cut the wrapping paper into an 8" or
9" (I don't remember) square and folded it into a boxer model (from
Montroll's "Origami Sculpture"). She loved that boxer, and that boxer has
been on display (on the top of her computer) eversince.

--
------------------------------------+------------------------------------------
Yusri Johan                         | Some days we feel like strangers. When
Georgia State University            | our heart opens, we will realize that
gs01yyj@panther.gsu.edu             | we belong just here.
Psychology and Communication        | (Jack Kornfield)





Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:21:51 -0400
From: Kim Best <Kim.Best@m.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: Re: Mr. Robert Lang's Insect Origami Book

On Sun, 26 Feb 1995 Rjlang@aol.com wrote:

>
> The Lang book should be ready by convention time (or I'm gonna be really
> ticked). North American Animals is, according to John, imminently available.
> Birds in Origami is not yet written. They'll all be sold through Dover, so
> get your Dover catalogs now!
>

Are you sure that's not the other way round.  I have the bird book on
order from Barne's and Noble, but they tell me the North American Animals
is not available.

Kim Best                                  *************************
                                          *      Origamists       *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System         *  Are good with their  *
420 Chipeta Way #120                      *        Hands          *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108               *************************





Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:31:02 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Lang's Insects and Montroll's Lobster

<<Origami flys on the computer monitors...>>

We all have FROGS on our monitors in my office...

[Hint: What do frogs eat?]

--valerie





Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:33:37 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Mr. Robert Lang's Insect Origami Book

Re:     Re: Mr. Robert Lang's Insect Origami Book

rjlang wrote: <<Origami Insects is 100% complex models,
chock-full of closed sinks, edgeless wraps, and other brutally
finger-numbing, tendon-popping maneuvers.>>

After a weekend of folding skinny points, multiple sinks etc in cardstock
     weight paper
I'm beginning to suspect that marathon sessions with the computer keyboard/mouse
aren't the only way to get carpel tunnel syndrome...  :-)
Next thing you know we'll be getting warnings in the origami books
that folding is hazardous to your health (even if you don't stay
up all night trying to "get it right...")
--valerie





Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 16:20:18 -0400
From: SharynN@aol.com
Subject: piano model, cellist model, etc

I have to say that I have never ever tried to fold any of Lang's more complex
models because they just seem too daunting.  Any pointers, folks?  (Other
than using a sheet of paper the size of my desk)

I used to ask dinner guests to select whatever model they wanted from those
sitting on my bookshelves.  Always very telling.

Sharyn November





Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 19:42:34 -0400
From: Cynthia Pettit <pettit@cs.unc.edu>
Subject: Re: What do you do with your origami models?

<On being frustrated with the housefly...>

Of course, now is when the real pain comes, because since you have
successfully folded the housefly, you won't be able to quit once you
start folding it the second time!

i.e. you won't have the luxury of saying "this is not possible!" since
it *was* possible once-upon-a-time!

I find refolding difficult-and-almost-impossible models to be the
absolute *worst*!  I'm not allowed to give up!  ARRGH!

:)

Cyn

PS Whenever I have a hard time folding something, I *always* write
notes to myself in that book.  [Once I got frustrated trying to write
out an explanation and it says now, "oh..just *look* at it, you'll
get it..." :) I do, and I do! :) ]





Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 22:09:15 -0400
From: Philip Craig Chapman-Bell <CHAPBELL@delphi.com>
Subject: Memorization and a paper request

Dear All & Sundry,
        When I memorize folds, especially complex folds, I try to turn off
my eidetic memory and try to turn on my process memory, that is, I _don't_
memorize the images of the diagrams, but instead commit to memory the
logical sequence of steps.  When finding your way to a strange room in a
large building, you don't memorize the map, you memorize 2 lefts here, a
right there, up a flight of stairs, past the Coke machine...and then, after
you've been there twice or thrice, you try _not_ to think about it and let
your feet guide you there.  Same thing.  For practice, I try to memorize
models in books I don't buy at the bookstore.  (Do copyright lawyers ever
worry about this?)  Is diagramming the enemy of memory, `a la Plato?
I doubt it: it takes me so long to diagram anything, it gets permanently
burnt in to the synapses.  But perhaps having someone else's diagrams around
_is_, in that it's too convenient to check when you get stuck.
        Of course, I spend a lot of time getting lost in large buildings.
        *  *  *
        Tyvek, anyone?  I'm looking for a source of _small_ amounts,
relatively, of a paper or paper-like substance called Tyvek.  It's used
for ATM card envelopes, 2lb express mail envelopes, and vapor-barriers on
new buildings.  I've been impressed by its durability and ability to hold
a crease, and want to investigate its load-holding ability in really large
modulars.  However, the art store doesn't have it, and the smallest amount
the lumberyard will sell me is 3' x 100' (for those blessed with the
inhuman metric system, that's roughly a whole lot).  Has anyone found this
paper in small amounts?  Any help would be appreciated.
        Yours,
        <>Philip Craig Chapman-Bell<>
        chapbell@delphi.com
        philip.chapman-bell@busilink.com

"When folding a Snark, never start from the Blintz Boojum Base."

`[1;35;45mRainbow V 1.06 for Delphi - Test Drive





Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 23:11:12 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Paper request: Tyvek

Philip writes about Tyvek paper:

I've seen tyvek in A-size sheets in large office supply mail order
catalogs from time to time, though the least amount as I recall was
50 or 100 sheets. White of course. I've folded with it (salvage from
Fed Ex envelopes etc.) and it does fold OK. Try a big Quill catalog
or warehousing/shipping outfit.

Most intriguing, but no luck so far, I've seen Tyvek computer covers
printed in beautiful designs, and also clothing. A bike nut friend of
mine was contacted by an Oregon (I think) company who makes Tyvek
windbreaker-type jackets in custom printed designs for bike and other
sports teams, corporate events, etc. But he didn't have any luck trying

I have "stained" Tyvek with some of the more "nasty" kinds of markers,
the ones that "write on anything"...

--valerie     Valerie Vann        compuserve: 75070,304
INTERNET:     vvann@delphi.com
      or:     75070.304@compuserve.com
>> He bought a large map representing the sea,             <<
>> without the least vestige of land;                      <<
>> And the crew were much pleased when they found it to be <<
>> A map they could all understand... [Carroll: Hunting of the Snark<<





Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 13:39:05 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: 30 Unit Omega Star, Contin.

Mike Naughton wrote that he "taught the 30 Unit 30 Point Omega Star at a FOCA
conference
some years ago":

Mike, Is the 30 pt version we've been discussing here your design, or did you
learn it
from someone else?   I try to keep track of whose shoulders I'm standing on when
I
diagram variations & developments of existing modular technologies... :-)

--valerie





Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 17:38:13 -0400
From: Mark Morden <marmonk@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: Memorization and a paper request

On Mon, 27 Feb 1995, Philip Craig Chapman-Bell wrote:

[among other things]
>       *  *  *
>       Tyvek, anyone?  I'm looking for a source of _small_ amounts,
> relatively, of a paper or paper-like substance called Tyvek.  It's used
> for ATM card envelopes, 2lb express mail envelopes, and vapor-barriers on
> new buildings.  I've been impressed by its durability and ability to hold
> a crease, and want to investigate its load-holding ability in really large
> modulars.  However, the art store doesn't have it, and the smallest amount
> the lumberyard will sell me is 3' x 100' (for those blessed with the
> inhuman metric system, that's roughly a whole lot).  Has anyone found this
> paper in small amounts?  Any help would be appreciated.
>       Yours,
>       <>Philip Craig Chapman-Bell<>
>       chapbell@delphi.com
>       philip.chapman-bell@busilink.com
>
>
> "When folding a Snark, never start from the Blintz Boojum Base."
>
> `[1;35;45mRainbow V 1.06 for Delphi - Test Drive
>
Check housing construction sites.  You can find scraps or roll ends of
Tyvek laying around.  Avoids having to buy 100' feet of the stuff.  If
you are scavaging on a job site, it is probably better to go after
hours.  Each one is different, but some companies get very annoyed about
tresspassers and scavengers (he said speaking from experience).

Mark Morden
marmonk@eskimo.com





Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 18:36:26 -0400
From: Tamar Schiller <aimee@free.org>
Subject: Re: Mr. Robert Lang's Insect Origami Book

On Mon, 27 Feb 1995, Valerie Vann wrote:

> rjlang wrote: <<Origami Insects is 100% complex models,
> chock-full of closed sinks, edgeless wraps, and other brutally
> finger-numbing, tendon-popping maneuvers.>>
>
> After a weekend of folding skinny points, multiple sinks etc in cardstock
     weight paper
> I'm beginning to suspect that marathon sessions with the computer
     keyboard/mouse
> aren't the only way to get carpel tunnel syndrome...  :-)
> Next thing you know we'll be getting warnings in the origami books
> that folding is hazardous to your health (even if you don't stay
> up all night trying to "get it right...")
> --valerie

boy can i relate! i've stayed up till about 2 in the morning because i
couldn't stop! but, i guess that's drive for ya!
p.s. does anyone else get cold fingers sometimes when folding models?
     (just wondering)

-aimee





Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 23:47:53 -0400
From: MJNAUGHTON@amherst.edu
Subject: Looking for Tyvek

Philp Craig Chapman-Bell asked for suggestions for finding Tyvek in
smaller than 3' x 100' amounts.  One possibility might be looking for
construction sites -- especially wood-frame buildings.  There are bound
to be scraps, and since the contractor pays for going to the dump I'm
sure he or she would be more than happy to let you carry away what you
want.

Good luck!
Mike Naughton





Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 23:56:03 -0400
From: Daniel Say <say@sfu.ca>
Subject: Re: Looking for Tyvek

Another source of Tyvek
        [and does it hold a crease?]

..And the Sasuga Japanese Bookstore (7 upland Road,
Cambridge, Mass 02140) sends out their
Origami Book Lists, 3 full pages,
in Tyvek envelopes.





Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 00:03:47 -0400
From: MJNAUGHTON@amherst.edu
Subject: 30-point Omegas

Valerie Vann asked if the 30-point Omega Star I have taught at FOCA
conventions is my own design.  The answer is "yes", with a qualifier:
I was fooling around with waterbomb bases some years ago and came up
with both the 12-piece 12-pointed star and also the 30-piece 30-pointer
(after these, the 24-pointer and 90-pointer were not far behind).
I subsequently discovered that Robert Neale had invented both of these
(and a lot of other things) many years ago (maybe during the sixties?),
although nobody at FOCA seemed to remember this. . . .
Consequently, I claim to have "created" (or "discovered") these models,
but _not_ to have "originated" them (I believe that distinction clearly
belongs to Dr. Neale).  I also claim to have "popularized" them, since
when I first started showing them around everyone thought they were
original (until I showed them to Neale!).
I have taught these models (and others) at my "Omega Star Workshop" at
the FOCA (now OUSA) conventions, and I will probably keep on doing so as
long as people seem interested (so far, it's been pretty popular, if I
do say so myself).  That's where Wendy Zeichner learned it, and I'm happy
to see that she likes it well enough to want to teach it herself.  Anyone
who's interested is welcome to come check it out!
I also teach a "Sonobe Module Workshop", where among other things I show a
60-piece, 30-point star made with Sonobe modules (tricky to construct, but
pretty impressive).  I believe that I am the originator of that model . . .
I'm happy to do what I can to clear up the history -- one thing I've learned
from talking with Robert Neale is that much of the early history of origami
at Lillian Oppenheimer's has been lost, which is a real shame!
Mike Naughton





Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 00:17:20 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: long weekend!

Hey there! I go away for a weekend and everyone got on-line!  My mail box was
CRAMMED!! (Don't take that as a complaint though !! :-) )  Anyone else get bad
weather? We drove from Billings Montana to Denver Colorado in a hellacious
snowstorm...

Anyway - for those of you looking for Tyvek, and don't want to buy a huge roll,
or can't find a contractor willing to allow you on his job site to scavenge (or
you fell a little oozy inside about doing that ;-)) - have you ever given any
thought to sharing the cost of a large roll wil fellow folders? Might be an
elegant solution, and you wouldn't have mud all over the tyvek!

I have memorized around thirty plus models (at last count) including dome
(make that some) modulars and some fairly comp[lex models (one of the most
impressive is Patricia Crawfords "3 Masted Sailboat"... I love springing that
on people...) but I've never given any thought about how I do that - memorizing
them, I mean. I think probably that most of you hit it on the head when you say
     you just fold the same model over and over - but there are some models I
     learn
just by looking at them in the book. I have found that the models that come
the easiest are those that are based on something familiar - anything on a bird
or a frog base will come a lot easier than one of John Montroll's or Robert
Lang's where you don't really start on a particular base... I find that some-
times when I get stuck, I can remember the diagrams - I close my eyes and
     imagine the book in front of me, aometimes I can see the next step...

rambling sorry...

for aimee - no, my fingers don't get cold, but my hair starts standing on end -
no doubt from pulling it up and out when I'm trying to figure out a reverse
double sink with a half twist!!!

Dee





Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 08:40:55 -0400
From: Yusri Johan <gs01yyj@panther.Gsu.EDU>
Subject: Montroll's "Birds in Origami"

I called several of the local bookstores in Atlanta yesterday asking
about the availability of John Montroll's origami books. All of them told
me that there is only one that is going to be available sometime this
month or next month. The name of the book is "_Birds in Origami_."
The date of publication of this book is actually today, March 1. The
price of this book is $2.95, so I am assuming that this book is going to
be rather thin. And, I don't know how many models will be in this book.

Later.
YJ





Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 11:48:25 -0400
From: Sandra Wambold <wambold@kepler.enc.org>
Subject: Bookstore locations

> ..And the Sasuga Japanese Bookstore (7 upland Road,
> Cambridge, Mass 02140) sends out their
> Origami Book Lists, 3 full pages,
> in Tyvek envelopes.

I'll be visiting the Boston area soon (and with any luck, finding a
job and moving there) so I would be interested in finding out the location
of any shops there.

In fact, if it hasn't been done, I'll start a origami shop by location
list and put it on my Web pages.  Send additions to my account
directly (no need to clog the list) and I'll let people know when a
URL is ready.

-sew





Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 13:38:05 -0400
From: rueger@areaplg2.corp.mot.com
Subject: Re: Bookstore locations

>>>>> "sew" == Sandra Wambold <wambold@kepler.enc.org> writes:

    >> ..And the Sasuga Japanese Bookstore (7 upland Road,
    >> Cambridge, Mass 02140) sends out their
    >> Origami Book Lists, 3 full pages,
    >> in Tyvek envelopes.

    sew> I'll be visiting the Boston area soon (and with any luck, finding a
    sew> job and moving there) so I would be interested in finding out the
     location
    sew> of any shops there.

For a visit back to Boston last year (I went to school at MIT), I dug
thru the archives of this mailing list.  I found the message appended.
When I got to Boston, Anne was very helpful; she even gave me directions
for when I got to Porter Square.

Hope this helps...
-Tim

--
Tim Rueger             Motorola CCR&D IC Design Laboratory, IL02-2921
Fax  : (708) 538-4593  Internet: rueger@areaplg2.corp.mot.com

----------

    Date: Thu, 20 Jan 94 15:24:40 AST
    From: lavin@MIT.EDU
    Subject: Re: Stores in Boston

    (Perhaps I should send this directly, rather than to the list, but,
    hey, in case any of you Boston-area folks don't know about some of
    these, here they are.)

    Off the top of my head, my favorites are:

     - the Origami Store (or some very similar variation on that name) in
    Faneuil Hall (that's in Dowtown Boston, easily accessible by the T)
    which sells a variety of paper, books, origami jewelry and other neat
    stuff.

     - Wordsworth bookstore in Harvard Square (Cambridge, a T stop on the
    Red Line) usually has a reasonable selection of origami books (but
    this varies drastically from month to month, for some reason.)

     - Sasuga in Porter Square (also in Cambridge, and also a Red line T
    stop) is a Japanese bookstore, and usually carries a small selection
    of origami books in Japanese.  They also are very willing to order
    books, and take suggestions for things to carry.

     - The Paper Source (also right near Porter Square) sells all sorts of
    nice paper, in the form of large loose sheets.

     - Rugg Road paper (hmmm, hard to tell you how to get there, but it's
    in Cambridge) is a very, very cool place, run by artists who make much
    of the paper they sell there.  Great stuff for bookbinding, etc, and
    of course nice papers for wetfolding.

     - Tokai (also in Porter Sq.) is a Japanese antique/stuff store that
    happens to sell a nice selection of interesting origami paper, and
    some books.  If you were at Sasuga or Paper Source, you should stop
    there as well.

    Of course, if you're from SF, then you have Kinokuniya, and therefore
    you probably don't need any of the above...But if any of these sound
    interesting and you need more pointers, feel free to get in touch with
    me.

    Anne R. LaVin                    | "Say, Pooh, why aren't YOU busy?" I said.
    lavin@mit.edu                    | "Because it's a nice day," said Pooh.
    MIT Information Systems          | "Yes, but---"
    (617) 253-0115                   | "Why ruin it?" he said.





Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 17:07:36 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Tyvek paper request

My bike riding friend tells me the company that makes the Tyvek
jackets with printed designs is in Seattle. He also says that
KITES are sometimes made of Tyvek, and he's seen Tyvek for sale
by the yard in Hobby Shops that carry kite making supplies. He
didn't recall whether any of the Tyvek kite kits or the yardage
were colored or not.

--valerie





Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 22:25:42 -0400
From: PamGotcher@aol.com
Subject: Huntsville, AL folders?

Hi, I'm a lurker who saves every message (except the unsubscribe ones!)
because I've only been folding since the Southeastern Festival in Sept., and
I know the messages will be a real resource the more I learn.  (They're a
real resource now!)

Anyway, we have a 14 yr old here in Charlotte who is an excellent folder
(part of the '94 Origami by Children exhibit at the NY pub library).  She's
moving to Elkmont, near Huntsville, and can't locate any folders in the
vicinity.  Is there anyone on the list who is from that area that she could
contact for local information?

Thanks so much!
Pam Gotcher

PamGotcher@aol.com      (or)
71042.1461@compuserve.com





Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 23:42:55 -0400
From: Amy Dragon Rawson <a_rawson@storm.simpson.edu>
Subject: eidetic memories

someone recently (last week or so) mentioned having an eidetic memory
and being able to 'turn it off' to memorize folds ...

I wonder if that person could identify him/herself again ... because
I have a few question to ask of you if you don't mind ...

Dragon





Date: Thu, 02 Mar 1995 07:13:47 -0400
From: a.mccombs3@genie.geis.COM
Subject: Montroll books update

John Montroll gave me the following news to pass along to everyone on the
mailing list.  First, "North American Animals in Origami" is at the printer
now and will be available in about a week.  It will be available from OUSA
and Dover, or it can be ordered directly from him:

        John Montroll
        2616 Elmont St.
        Wheaton MD 20902

Price from him is $9.95 plus $2.00 p&h.

The "Birds" book is a book that he has done for Dover, so Dover has control
of when it comes out.  He does not know when that will be, but his part of
the job is complete.

Big news: he was showing the Capital Folders group a whole box of models
from his NEXT book, which he's very excited about.  So am I -- it's going to
be his best EVER!  The working title is "Origami Fantasy and Chinese
Zodiac."  IMPORTANT: It won't be ready for at least one year; he's barely
started diagramming.  He has 11 of the twelve signs of the Chinese Zodiac
finished: pig, horse, dog, ram, monkey, rat, rabbit, dragon, snake, ox ...
AAACK! I didn't write down the eleventh one!  The tiger is the only one he
hasn't done yet though, so maybe someone can look at a Chinese restaurant
placemat and fill us all in :)  And a real shock - he had done all of the
models WET-FOLDED IN WASHI!!!  Particularly outstanding were the ox (a water
buffalo), rat, and pig.  John's working with what he's calling his "new
style", which another member described as "open"; it reminds me of Japanese
brush painting, capturing the essence of the creature in a very economical
manner.

The fantasy (mythological) creatures included a cockatrice, 3-headed dragon,
gryphon, Pegasus, unicorn, and Cerberus.  I think he might be planning to do
a few more.  He had made these all up in kami paper.  The cockatrice was
particularly personable (monstrous?)

We also had a long and fascinating conversation about creating designs;
unfortunately, the most I can report on that is that he very emphatically
states that he cannot put into words how he does it.  It's obviously very
clear in his mind, but not readily verbalized.  He talked a lot about his
"ideas of proportions" being the key to how he works.

All in all, a very interesting evening.  Capital Folders will be meeting at
=Pentagon City Mall= in the food court on the first Wednesday evening of the
month, starting next month (D.C. is discontinuing Wednesday evening hours at
the library we've been meeting at), so anyone in the Washington D.C. area
that's interested should feel free to join us at our new location!

Anne





Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 09:16:42 -0400
From: jrausch@meaddata.com (John Rausch)
Subject: Re: Tyvek paper request

You can buy all the Tyvek you want from Into the Wind in Boulder, CO.  I don't
     know the phone number, but they advertise every month in Smithsonian and
     there's always 303-555-1212.





Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 09:27:18 -0400
From: Mark Morden <marmonk@eskimo.com>
Subject: Huzzah for Alex Barber

Alex Barber the OAB award (Origami Atta Boy) for his work translating the
Postscript files at the archives to Acrobat PDFs.  If you have ever
complained about trying to get the Postscript files printed, you should
vist Alex's Web page.  You can download the Acrobat program and the PDF
versions of the archive files.  Running Acrobat is easy.  Viewing and
printing files is a snap.  The printed output is clean and sharp. This
works so well I can get rid of those Ghostscript files etc. and free up
about 8 megs of precious space on my computer's hard drive.  If you don't
have a postscript printer, believe me, this is the solution.  Thanks for your
work and contribution Alex.

In case you missed it, Alex's Web page is at:

http://starbase.neosoft.com/~barber

Mark Morden
marmonk@eskimo.com





Date: Thu, 02 Mar 1995 11:13:49 -0400
From: Anita Reinehr <ali@ALBEMARLE.AERO.ORG>
Subject: Re: Montroll books update

>... He <Montroll> has 11 of the twelve signs of the Chinese Zodiac
>finished: pig, horse, dog, ram, monkey, rat, rabbit, dragon, snake, ox ...
>AAACK! I didn't write down the eleventh one!  The tiger is the only one he
>hasn't done yet though, so maybe someone can look at a Chinese restaurant
>placemat and fill us all in :)    ....

The missing one is chicken/cock. <I am Chinese and got the zodiac memorized.>

Anne, thanks for the info on where the Capital Folders will now be meeting.
I wished I hadn't missed John's presentation of his models.

Anita





Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 13:29:34 -0400
From: Sheila Davis <sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com>
Subject: Re: Tyvek paper request

>
> You can buy all the Tyvek you want from Into the Wind in Boulder, CO.  I
     don't know the phone number, but they advertise every month in Smithsonian
     and there's always 303-555-1212.
>
        Being in Colorado, I suppose I should be helpful at this point.
        My Boulder phone book lists "Into the Wind" at (303)449-5356.

Regards,

  Sheila Davis        Hewlett-Packard IC Business Division
 sew@hpfisew.fc.hp.com          Fort Collins, Colorado





Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 15:07:57 -0400
From: Debra Leann Russell <deruss@tenet.edu>
Subject: Re: Montroll books update

Hello From Texas,

        The missing Zodiac sign is the Rooster.

deruss@tenet.edu





Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 23:06:48 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: Into the Wind - Tyvek

I just looked up the phone numbers for the Boulder, CO, store mentioned
by John Rausch and they are:
        Into The Wind - Kite Catalog (303) 449-5356
        Into the Wind - Kite Store   (303) 449-5906





Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 23:22:14 -0400
From: Tamar Schiller <aimee@free.org>
Subject:

I can't really remember that many folds of the top of my head, but
sometimes the simple ones really impress people.
There's this one of an iris, (you even curl the 'petals' to make it look
real) and it's really cool in dark colors, but it's even cooler to see
people's faces (it looks really hard, but it isn't).
I'm gonna try to write down the instructions, but i can't do .ps files
yet, so you'll all have to bare with ascii  :>
Mail me at aimee@free.org if you would like a copy (don't expect it for
at least a week though :)
With love for origami, and hatred for papercuts,

Aimee

-aimee@free.org





Date: Fri, 03 Mar 1995 10:36:57 -0400
From: smwad@hookup.NET (David Sharpe)
Subject: Re:

Hay this is Michael Sharpe but you can call me Mike. I think I know the
fold, is it the iris?
Because it is, I know what your talking about.
By the way ,what state do you live in?
Mike





Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 11:58:11 -0400
From: Don.Shall@um.cc.umich.edu
Subject: Origami memory enhancement

A technique favored by my father, years ago, was "step folds".  He (and
apparently many others of the earlier generations of folders who sent
packets of step folds to Lillian Oppenheimer @ her 'home office':
The Origami Center of America, as well as to dad and other creators) would
start with many pieces of paper at the same time, repeating all folds
on all sheets.

After the first 4 - 8 folds, he would write a "1" on one of them, and
put it aside.  After each sequence or cluster of folds, he would up the
number, sometimes putting arrows or notes as well.  When he was done,
they'd go into a recycled 9" x 12" kraft envelope, get marked by title
and creator and filed for future reference.

He would do this occasionally at Lillian's folding sessions in NYC, and
the early conventions with intriguing new models.  He also did this
backwards, 'deconstructing' finished models sent to him with no steps,
diagrams or other instruction.  Oh, his name: Herman Nathan Shall (1913
- 1971).

Later, best wishes, Don.





Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 20:49:20 -0400
From: Basja Samuelson - WCCLS <samuelso@iclnet93.iclnet.org>
Subject: Michael Shall's obituary

Michael Shall's deatj a few weeks ago is a huge loss to the origami
community, and to me personally.  Michael and I knew each other since
childhood; his late father, Herman, and my father, Wally Samuelson, were
close partners for 20 years in the quartz crystal business in Carlisle,
Pa.  Michael (and his paperfolding brothers David and Don) stimulated my
own interest in origami, and I have been folding and teaching for many
years.  New to the Internet, and to the Origami List, I want to introduce
myself, Basja Samuelson, and share these moving obituaries with all of you:

>From the NY Times, Feb.16, 1995, Written by J. Michael Elliott --
"Michael Shall, a leading American expert in origami, the popular
Japanese art of paper folding, died on Feb.9 at New York University
Medical Center.  He was 45 and lived in Manhattan.

The cause was complications from AIDS, said a brother, David Shall, of
Harrisburg, Pa.  The youngest of three sons to whom Herman Shall taught
the traditional Japanese art form, Michael Shall learned to create
complicated objects like a dinosaur and a mother pushing a stroller, all
fashioned from a single sheet of paper.

Mr. Shall, raised in Carlisle, Pa., graduated from Lycoming College in
Williamsport, Pa., and taught English in New Jersey high schools for four
years before moving to Manhattan in 1974 to try to become the art's first
full-time professional.

He studied and worked with Lillian Oppenheimer, who for generations had
been the primary force in furthering the popularity of origami through a
loosely organized group that she operated from her home, the Origami
Center of America.

In 1980, he helped to found an affiliated group that is now called
Origami, USA.  The organization had grown to include more than 60
affiliate clubs across the country.  Mr. Shall taught at schools and
museums, including the American Museum of Natural History, the
Cooper-Hewitt Museum, the Museum of Modern Art and the Smithsonian
Institution in Washington.

He was also a consultant to the National Geographic Society and the
United States Committee for UNICEF.  He was also well-knownb for
designing origami Christmas trees.  The best-known were "Paper Magic on
Fifth Avenue" and "The Origami Holiday Tree" for the American Museum of
Natural History.

In addition to his brother David, Mr. Shall is survived by his mother,
Tillie Shall of Winter Park, Fla; a sister, Maxine Burkholder, of Media,
Pa., and another brother, Donald, of Ann Arbor, Mich."

****And, from the NY Times, Feb.10th, 1995, Written by The Members and
Board of Directors of Origami, USA:

"SHALL--Michael, on February 8th, 1995.  Origami USA announces with
profound sorrow the passing of our beloved Founding Father, taken from us
at age 45 after a long illness.  Michael was a teacher, creator, showman,
folder, and most of all, charismatic spokesman for the magic to be found
in a single sheet of paper.  He taught in schools, at hospitals, at
parties, and at virtually every library in the New York area.  His "Paper
Magic" origami holiday tree at the Japan Airlines ticket office on Fifth
Avenue brought joy and wonder to all who saw it.  He designed and created
origami trees all over the world.  No one who met Michael or saw his
trees could forget him, or his art.  Michael was a man of faith, vision
and dedication.  His belief that the sharing of origami could make the
world a finer place filled his life.  He founded the Friends of the
Origami Center of America, recently renamed Origami USA, and spent years
working to make it a viable and strong home for his dream, filled with
volunteers working together.  To the entire Shall family and to all who
loved him, we offer our heartfelt condolences."





Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 13:35:56 -0400
From: mirjamv@sci.kun.nl
Subject: Re: Hello

Hi,

If you want to learn some new models, thats perfectly possible:

On the ftp-side rugcis.rug.nl is a directory origami/models, with a
large number of poscript-files, with step by step-instructions for
different models, an armadillo, a pencilbox, a praying mantis and so
on.

On WWW there is a page (I believe it is Joseph Wu's homepage),
where those models are described, and divided into five difficulty-
classes.

Bye, and enjoy origami,
                Mirjam.





Date: Tue, 07 Mar 1995 10:26:25 -0400
From: John Olsson <d91johol@und.ida.liu.se>
Subject: How to fold a dragon...

Hi!

I'm new here on this mailing-list. I have a problem, which I hope someone
which subscribes to this mailing-list can solve! :)

For several years I have been searching for how to fold a certain kind of
western-style dragon, but I have not succeeded yet. Now, that I found this
mailing-list I thought that there is a small chance that someone knows
how to fold this dragon. To make it easyer for me to explain what I mean (and
for you to understand) I have scanned a photograf of it, which you can access
from my WWW-page.

So, if you want a challange, please wisit my WWW-page and look at the
photograf and try to figure out how to fold the dragon! ;)

My URL is: http://www.edu.isy.liu.se/~d91johol/

/John





Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 12:50:36 -0400
From: bryan@sgl.ists.ca (Bryan Feir)
Subject: Re: How to fold a dragon...

> So, if you want a challange, please wisit my WWW-page and look at the
> photograf and try to figure out how to fold the dragon! ;)

   That dragon looks awfully familiar... I'd have to check to be certain,
but I'm about 90% certain right now that it's one of the three dragons in
Jay Ansill's book _Origami today: Mythical Beings_.  If you can find a copy
of that, it should have the full description of the folds in it.

---------------------------+---------------------------------------------------
Bryan Feir           VE7GBF|"Every man has somewhere in the back of his head
bryan@sgl.ists.ca          | the wreck of a thing which he calls his
                           | education."              -- Stephen Leacock





Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 13:34:08 -0400
From: Marc_Hache@MBnet.MB.CA (Marc Hache)
Subject: Re: How to fold a dragon...

>> So, if you want a challange, please wisit my WWW-page and look at the
>> photograf and try to figure out how to fold the dragon! ;)
>
>   That dragon looks awfully familiar... I'd have to check to be certain,
>but I'm about 90% certain right now that it's one of the three dragons in
>Jay Ansill's book _Origami today: Mythical Beings_.  If you can find a copy
>of that, it should have the full description of the folds in it.

Yep. That's it. You can, if you are not too much of a purist, fold a cool
head for this dragon. I use one based a stretched bird base (the two short
flaps are rabbit eared to become horns). I'll look up the book it is in when
I get home this evening. It's from a three part dragon by a Japanese folder.

Marc





Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 17:10:30 -0400
From: brannon@ranger.enet.dec.com
Subject: RE: How to fold a dragon...

John,

The dragon on your web page IS an exact match for the "Winged Dragon"
in Jay Ansill's book "Mythical Beings".  It was created by Robert Neale.
The book was published in 1992 by
HarperCollins Publishers,
10 East 53 Street, New York, NY 10022
ISBN 0-06-096866-4  $10.00 US

I've also see it in the OrigamiUSA supply catalog.

That was the first dragon I ever folded and lots of variations on it
are covering my PC monitor (its my favorite model).

dennis





Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 17:40:02 -0400
From: Eric Tend <eric@hpisdaja.ptp.hp.com>
Subject: origami on cable tonight

I don't know if this was mentioned (since the list dropped me over the
weekend) ...

Beyond 2000 (on the Discovery Channel) has a scheduled segment on origami
listed on Tuesday (3-7) in the TV Guide.  It is on at 7PM (PST).
Check your local listings.

--Eric--

==============================================================================
     ____/__/__/__/__/__/__/ | "Its all in the reflexes"
      __/         __/        |                       -- Jack Burton
_______/__/      __/         |================================================
    __/         __/          | Eric Tend
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 18:10:11 -0400
From: Mary Jane Heussner <rgtmjh@gsusgi2.Gsu.EDU>
Subject: Atlanta origami Meeting March 10

This is just a reminder to people within driving distance of Atlanta that
we are meeting this Friday at the home of Martha Mitchen, 2933 Ridgelock
Ct., Doraville.  Phone her at 396-4586 for directions or email me personally.
We start around 7:30, but lots of people come later.

Mary Jane Heussner





Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 18:36:48 -0400
From: hull@hypatia.math.uri.edu
Subject: Origami and Bauhaus

Hey there, young lovers!

        A while back someone asked about how origami was utilized by
Josef Albers in his design courses as part of the Bauhaus movement
in 1920's Germany. While I am no expert on Bauhaus, I have done a little
research on this, and it certainly is an interesting chapter in
origami history!

        Bauhaus was a movement initiated by a group of young architects,
designers and artists in post World War I Germany. Although their
inertia was thwarted by WWII, their work became highly influential
around the world. You can even see the influences in later artistic
periods like Art Nouveu (sp???). Or at least that's what I make of it.
        Josef Albers was a designer who did much writing and teaching on
the stylistic ideals of Bauhaus. Of particular interest is his "Preliminary
Course" where he askes the student to explore new ways to manipulate
material. The idea is to develop skills in thinking constructively and
innovatively rather than by copying only what you see around you. But
waving my arms around like this does little good - let me quote
Josef Albers himself:

           "The learning and application of established methods of
        manufacturing develop discernment and skill, but hardly
        creative potentialities. The ability to construct inventively
        and to learn through observation is developed - at least in
        the beginning - by undisturbed, uninfluenced and unprejudiced
        experiment, in other words, by a free handling of materials
        without practical aims."

So what does this have to do with paperfolding? Read on...

           "In order to insure first-hand, manual knowledge of the
        material we restrict the use of tools. As the course advances
        the possibilities in the use of various materials as well as
        their limitations are gradually discovered. The most familiar
        methods of using them are summarized; and since they are already
        in use they are forbidden. For example: paper, in handicraft
        and industry, is generally used lying flat; the edge is rarely
        utilized. For this reason we try paper standing upright, or
        even as a building material; we reinforce it with complicated
        folding; we use both sides; we emphasize the edge. Paper is
        usually pasted: instead of pasting it we try to tie it, to pin
        it, to sew it, to rivet it. In other words, we fasten it in a
        multitude of different ways. At the same time we learn by
        experience its properties of flexibility and rigidity, and its
        potentialities in tension and compression. Then, finally, after
        having tried all other methods of fastening we may, of course,
        paste it."
                ----- from "Concerning Fundamental Design" by Josef Albers,
                      in _Bauhaus_ ed. by Bayer, Gropius and Gropius,
                      the Charles T. Branford Co., 1959, p. 114.

        Thus as a design exercise Jospef encouraged his students to
manipulate paper in any non-standard creative way. Certainly folding
was explored deeply, and this is evident in the pictures we find
in books such as the one cited above. On pages 115-119 one can find
pictures of complex (but abstract) origami constructions, including
a few tessellation folds and some Paul Jackson-esque "curve" folds.
One also finds lots of "origamic architecture" pop-up cut-outs.
In fact, I get the impression that the Bauhaus members explored a wide
range of paperfolding and paper cutting techniques way before their
revival during the past 20 years.
        Of particular interest is something I only heard "through
the grapevine". While in Japan last December I got a chance to see a
lecture by the Swiss freelance designer Carl Shwabe. His talk was
about "kinetic polyhedra", and he had lots of metal contructions
of polyhedra that *move* and twist into various things. Pretty killer!
So after the talk I quickly folded a hyperbolic paraboloid (from
Paul Jackson's book, _The Complete Origami Course_) because I thought
Mr. Shwabe might be interested in some "kinetic origami". (The hyperbolic
paraboloid can be "flipped" from one position into another.) He looked
at the model and said, "Ah yes! I've seen this before," and proceeded
to tell me that he saw this model on the cover of one of the Bauhaus
magazines, circa 1925 or so! He didn't remember the exact reference,
but this started me looking through old books on the Bauhaus
movement for glimpses of older origami!
        So if you're interested in learning more about this fleeting
period where designers used paperfolding as an *exercise* to develop
their creative skills (but who apparently didn't take it up as an art
in and of itself), go to your library and thumb through any book on
Bauhaus that you can find. Look up Josef Albers' name in the index
if you get desperate.
        And if anyone learns (or knows) more about all this, please
share it with the rest of us!

----------------- Tom "origami history for the macho" Hull





Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 20:55:07 -0400
From: Kevin Thorne <C598033@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu>
Subject: Wet folds

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
     Although I have heard quite a bit about wet folds mentioned on this
list, I have never seen a book which diagrams the specifics about it or
even gives a description of it in general and its purpose.  Since I know
that many of you do it, please give me a good description of wet folding
and what it is that puts it apart from regular folding in methods and final
results of a project.  Thank you.

Kevin Thorne
c598033@mizzou1.missouri.edu
Columbia, MO





Date: Thu, 09 Mar 1995 07:22:30 -0400
From: chee.tang@eng.ox.AC.UK (Chee Tang)
Subject: Origami Societies

Dear All,

Can anyone tell me the current addresses for OrigamiUSA and the British Origami
     Society? I don't want to pester the wrong people with irrelevent mail.

Thanks,

Chee Fai Tang.

Dept. of Engineering Science
Oxford University
UK.





Date: Thu, 09 Mar 1995 10:28:32 -0400
From: dobro@sandcastle.se (Steve Dobrogosz)
Subject:

Hi out there! I have a bright little 8 year old boy who's really into
origami and would like to know some good Net sites for kids. Any tips?

Thanks.

Steve Dobrogosz





Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 10:29:17 -0400
From: dobro@sandcastle.se (Steve Dobrogosz)
Subject:

Hi. I'm trying to download models in postscript form from the origami
directory and keep getting "invalid data" back. What am I doing wrong?





Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 11:31:09 -0400
From: Jose Tomas Buitrago Molina <buitrago@calvin.univalle.edu.co>
Subject: Origami books fot the blind people ?

Hi all!
Is there some origami books for the blind people ?
Where can I find it?

I like further information about them.
Thank you for the help.

Jose Tomas





Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 13:46:36 -0400
From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: Error Condition Re: Re: Origami Societies

>
> Can anyone tell me the current addresses for OrigamiUSA and the British
Origam

i Society? I don't want to pester the wrong people with irrelevent mail.
>
> Thanks,

Origami USA
15 West 77th St.
New York, NY 10024-5192

---
Sheldon Ackerman
ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org
sheldon.ackerman@nycps.nycenet.edu





Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 14:48:35 -0400
From: "M.J.van.Gelder" <M.J.van.Gelder@rc.rug.nl>
Subject: Re: Origami books fot the blind people ?

Hi Jose,

m>Is there some origami books for the blind people ?
m>Where can I find it?
m>
m>I like further information about them.
m>Thank you for the help.

There have been some messages on this list.
You can retrieve them by sending a message to

   maarten@info.service.rug.nl

with in the body the lines:

   messages blind
   stop

MIND: the above address looks like the 'From'address but is different. So
don't do a reply on this message!

Maarten van Gelder, Rekencentrum RuG, RijksUniversiteit Groningen, Holland





Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 21:14:12 -0400
From: Origamiist@aol.com
Subject: so called "3-D origami"

I was at the book store recently checking for new origami books when I came
across a book called 3-D origami. As for as I understand the definition of
origami this book did not seem to fit. All the models were intricately cut
collapsably 3-D structures made from many carefully cut pieces held together
with thread or glue. Is there some form of origami I was not aware of? It
seemed funny to me later that my initial reaction was anger that someone
would not know that this was not true origami. Then I thought maybe I was in
the dark. Let me know what you think.
            -Vern





Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 21:44:06 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: 3-d "origami"

I received the book that Vern was speaking of as a Christmas present. While it
is an interesting book, and some of the things are kind of fun to experiment
with, I would never have bought it myself to add to my origami collection. I
don't consider it to be origami at all. In fact, the only relation to origami I
could see was that you use paper.

There are some interesting pop-up cards and things, like I have seen in other
origami books (Jay Ansill's for one and _Origami for Christmas_ is another),
     butI would still not consider this as origami at all - perhaps a form of
     kirigami.

Dee





Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 21:50:15 -0400
From: txa14@rabbit.INS.CWRU.Edu (Tim Arai)
Subject: Re: so called "3-D origami"

>I was at the book store recently checking for new origami books when I came
>across a book called 3-D origami. As for as I understand the definition of
>origami this book did not seem to fit. All the models were intricately cut
>collapsably 3-D structures made from many carefully cut pieces held together
>with thread or glue. Is there some form of origami I was not aware of? It
>seemed funny to me later that my initial reaction was anger that someone
>would not know that this was not true origami. Then I thought maybe I was in
>the dark. Let me know what you think.
>            -Vern
>
>

I saw this in an old issue of Omni a few years back.  No, I don't think it's
real origami but you know how these people are.  If you use paper to make
something, they automatically assume that it's "origami".  Oh well.  It is
interesting though and I did try it but it collapsed on me :(  I guess it
makes good greeting cards but it's not the same as origami.

Tim
-----------
"Maybe you should telephone the Internet and talk to their tech support
 people." -- Reply from an America Online technical-support representative
 speaking to a customer who complained about e-mail that failed to go  through.





Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 00:08:58 -0400
From: Stamm@aol.com
Subject: Origami on FIDOnet

I am forwarding this on behalf of *** Nick Robinson *** (in England), who
keeps getting bumped off the list and has given up.  He is setting up an
origami group on FIDONET.  Since my only access right now is thru AOL, I know
nothing of FIDONET 'cept maybe its a Europian Thing.  Perhaps if we have any
FIDONET folks they could clue the rest of us in.

Anyways here is his message to me...
Tom Stamm

--------------------------------------------------------
Subj:  hello
Date:  Thu, Mar 9, 1995 10:28 AM EST
From:  Nick.Robinson@p666.f405.n250.z2.fidonet.org

Hi Tom - how's things? I'd imagine the Shall death has hit you Americans
hard - I spent a night in his room (innocently, of course!) & we got on
wonderfully. I'll miss his energy & vitality.

I've persuaded my local sysop to let me set up an origami area for people
to access from the Fidonet. Since I'm not getting any joy from origami-l
(given up trying!), could you post this fact & ask anyone who has fido
contacts to hassle their sysops to take it on as an echo? Requests should be
sent to Paul Smith, Cascades BBS, 2:250/405.

If I can ever get access to origami-l, I'd like to add these to my Fido
mailouts - does anyone have any objection? Is this type of thing
acceptable?

Got my copy of the Kittyhawk planes program - pretty good too. Only snag
was they didn't pay tax so I had to fork out #4.50 to get hold of it!!!!

I'll sithee,

Nick Robinson

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|Fidonet:  Nick Robinson 2:250/405.666
|Internet: Nick.Robinson@p666.f405.n250.z2.fidonet.org
|
| Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.





Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 14:46:05 -0400
From: Kim Best <Kim.Best@m.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: Origami Chessboard

In his book 'Origami Inside-out' John Montroll has some great chess
pieces.  He also has instructions for a great chessboard.  Unfortunately,
unless you fold it using paper that is 50 X 50 inches, the board is too
small to use with the pieces.  Since I liked the chess set so much, I
have deviced a modular chessboard made with 64 units.  The nice thing
about this board is that you can use paper that is the same size as the
individual chess pieces.  I have written up the directions for folding this
board.  Unfortunately, I don't have the resources to create post-script files,
so the directions are in GIF format.  I have uploaded the files to the
ftp site as  chessbd1.gif, chessbd2.gif, and chesscon.gif.  Chessbd1 and
Chessbd2 have the actual folding directions.  Chesscon has directions on
putting the units together and instructions on planning your chess board,
so it should be read first before folding the individual units. I also
appologize for the numerous typos in the instructions, I was using a paint
program, and editing text was extremely difficult, so I left a lot in.

So let me know what you think. I would also be interested in what others
have done in this matter.

Kim Best                                  *************************
                                          *      Origamists       *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System         *  Are good with their  *
420 Chipeta Way #120                      *        Hands          *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108               *************************





Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 15:03:27 -0400
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@concentra.com>
Subject: bumped from the list (was Re: Origami on FIDOnet)

Poor Nick Robinson has been bumped from the list so many times he's
giving up.  I've been bumped from the list myself, about three times,
I think.  I asked someone at my site about it and was told that the
list-server probably has some built in time-limit such that if it
can't reach you within the limit, it assumes your address is no longer
valid and drops you from the list.  This makes sense, as every time I
gotten bumped, it was just after we experienced network difficulties.
Perhaps Nick's site has flakier network connections than the rest of
us.  But more importantly, perhaps someone could tell the origami
list-server to use a longer time-out limit.

        -- jeannine mosely





Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 15:44:03 -0400
From: "TATE,TROY D" <troy.tate@zeta.dhs.texas.gov>
Subject: RE: BUMPED FROM THE LIST

> ......
>giving up.  I've been bumped from the list myself, about three times,
>I think.  I asked someone at my site about it and was told that the
>list-server probably has some built in time-limit such that if it
>can't reach you within the limit, it assumes your address is no longer
>valid and drops you from the list.  This makes sense, as every time I
> .....
>us.  But more importantly, perhaps someone could tell the origami
>list-server to use a longer time-out limit.

> -- jeannine mosely

Yes, I just experienced being bumped off (but I'm back now) this week!
I hope this isn't a sign of things "not" to come.  Good idea about
increasing time-out limit!

Troy
LabNuke@ix.netcom.com

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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 15:56:23 -0400
From: Sandra Wambold <wambold@kepler.enc.org>
Subject: Origami shops and suppliers list

I've started on my list of shops and suppliers.  You can find it at

        http://kepler.enc.org/~wambold/origami.html

I'd appreciate any comments or additions.

-sew





Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 16:45:47 -0400
From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: Origami Chessboard

>
>
> In his book 'Origami Inside-out' John Montroll has some great chess
> pieces.  He also has instructions for a great chessboard.  Unfortunately,
> unless you fold it using paper that is 50 X 50 inches, the board is too
> small to use with the pieces.

Have you ever seen how small Joseph Wu can make that chessboard? I wonder
how small he can make those chess pieces? :-)

--
Sheldon Ackerman
ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org
sheldon.ackerman@nycps.nycenet.edu





Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 17:58:07 -0400
From: John Olsson <d91johol@und.ida.liu.se>
Subject: How to fold a dragon...

Hi!

I would like to thank everyone who have helped me with my problem of how
to fold the dragon!

/John
