




Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 11:50:38 -0400
From: Laurie_Reynolds@smec.sel.sony.com (Laurie Reynolds)
Subject: Sinks are sooooo hard - Help!

Hello,

I just bought the book "origami sea life" and after temporarily giving up
on the chambered nautilus, I thought that I would try the atlantic purple sea
urchin.  It seemed to have mostly the types of folds found on the frog, and
lily, items that I can easily do.  BUT, he snuck in a sink fold, and I spent
an hour ripping several models while I tried in vain to do a sink from step 20.

Any hints on how to do a sink?

thanks,
laurie





Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 11:51:44 -0400
From: jdharris@teal.csn.NET (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: T Rex

>Until I see a live one I'll consider Montroll's as accurate as the one I see
>in the movies or at museums! :-)
>
>
>>
>--
>Sheldon Ackerman

Sheldon -

        Hi!  Actually, my comments were based on absolutely sound
scientific techniques of paleontology:  we know, for example, that no
dinosaur dragged its tail on the ground for two reasons:  <1> virtually no
dinosaur trackways show tail drag marks (an absolutely telling sign!), and
<2> most dinosaurs have tail vertebral articulations of such design that to
bend the tail enough to drag it on the ground, you'd have to literally
break the natural articulations of each bone!  Errors in origami dinosaurs
such as this are analagous to giving an origami elephant two trunks, just
because you've never seen a live one.  No one would expect these errors in
a painting or sculpture; origami should be no different, especially when it
is just as viable as an educational tool!  8-)

Jerry D. Harris
Denver Museum of Natural History
2001 Colorado Blvd.
Denver, CO  80205
(303) 370-6403

Internet:  jdharris@teal.csn.net
CompuServe:  73132,3372
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        "I repainted the picture Brown had painted for us.  A dying,
shrinking lake...these great...behemoths...dying..."
        "Well," she said, "all you tell me may be so...but I still can't
see why such creatures would have wanted to do it in the first place."
        "Do what, ma'am?"
        "Why, crawl away back under all that rock to die."

-- Roland T. Bird, _Bones for Barnum Brown_





Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 12:11:28 -0400
From: Bateman "A." "G." <agb@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Fabulous Books

I have rekindled my interest in origami and have been trying to find articles
>regarding the mathematics of origami - Peter Engel's book is not only a
>wonderful history and discussion of Origami, it also has a section on fractals.
>
Dear Laurie,
            If you are looking for articles on mathematics of origami, you
may also be interested in the excellent Robert Lang article in the 1989
Christmas issue of New Scientist.
  The February 1995 issue of TIBS (Trends in Biochemical Science) contains
diagrams for Thokki Yenns super "DNA molecule", definately worth folding!

Yours Alex Bateman





Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 12:12:37 -0400
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@icad.COM>
Subject: Re:  Boston stores?

A friend told me yesterday that some of the Japanese shops in the
Porter Exchange had a lot of Origami books on display.  They didn't
the last time I was there, but things do change.

The Porter Exchange is a large building in Porter Square (Cambridge)
that used to be a Sears.  It didn't do well as such, and was sold in
the late 80's to developers who remodeled it in the hopes of turning
it into a mini-mall of upscale stores.  It failed miserably as such,
but for some mysterious reason, the only shops that succeeded were
little Japanese boutiques, food shops and sushi bars.  It is located
next door to the Porter Square subway, almost across the street from
Sasuga, a Japanese bookstore.

        -- jeannine mosely





Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 13:45:46 -0400
From: plank@cs.utk.edu
Subject: New pics

Hey y'all,

I've just scanned in a new batch of modular pics:

URL: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~plank/plank/origami/origami.html
or
anon ftp to cs.utk.edu, cd to pub/plank/origami, and read the README.

Enjoy,

Jim
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Plank
plank@cs.utk.edu
http://www.cs.utk.edu/~plank

Department of Computer Science
University of Tennessee
107 Ayres Hall
Knoxville, TN 37996

615-974-4397





Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 14:42:08 -0400
From: jdharris@teal.csn.net (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: Lang's Chambered Nautilus - Help!

>Hello,
>
>I was trying to do the Chambered Nautilus model in Lang & Montroll's
>"Origami Sea Life" -  I got stuck on step 19 - crimp both bottom edges.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>thanks,
>laurie

Laurie -

        The process of "crimping" in origami is a tricky thing, and, IMHO,
most diagrammers (even excellent ones like Lang and Montroll) screw up the
semantics when describing the procedure.  I hope I can help!

        Let's start at the beginning, with the simple procedure of
pleating.  I think everyone, even non-origami enthusiasts, understand
pleating!  Just about everyone, at some time or another, has pleated a
piece of paper, back and forth, like an accordion, to make a simple fan.
What are the characteristics of a pleat?  Well, after you fold a square up,
back and forth, like a fan or an accordion, unfold the paper and look at
the crease lines.  What do you see?  An alternating series of valley
mountain folds.  Notice _especially_ that none of the lines intersect;
they're all parallel to one another (and would remain so if extended onto
infinity).  That is, by definition, a pleat.  Steps 4-7 and 10-15 of
Montroll's "Cichlid" in the same book are all examples of pleating.  Step
17 of Lang's "Nautilus" is NOT pleating!!!  (Everyone get out their red
pens and correct this).

                                ____________________
                                |                                      |
                                |-----------------------------|
                                |                                      |
                                |-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-|
                                |                                      |
                                |-----------------------------|
                                |                                      |
                                |-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-|
                                |___________________|

        HERE'S A ROUGH TEXT-LINE DIAGRAM OF A SQUARE, PLEATED
        ---- IS A VALLEY FOLD,  -.-.-.- IS A MOUNTAIN FOLD.

        A crimp is a variation on this theme.  Crimping it similar to
pleating, except that the lines _do_ intersect!  A simple pleat would be
where the lines intersect right at the edge of the paper.  This is easy to
imagine:  take the piece of paper with all the pleats on it from the last
example -- the one with all the parallel pleat lines.  Now just put in a
series of folds that connects the left side of one pleat line that extends
to the right side of the pleat line below it.

                                ____________________
                                |                                      |
                                |-----------------------------|
                                | `---                                |
                                |       `---                          |
                                |             `---                    |
                                |                  `---               |
                                |                       `---          |
                                |                            `---     |
                                |________________`--- |

        HER'S A ROUGHT DIAGRAM OF A PLAIN CRIMP:  NOTICE THAT THE TWO LINES
INTERSECT IN THE UPPER LEFT.

        This is just plain, ordinary crimping.  A sample of this kind of
crimp is steps 20-21 of Lang's "Cuttlefish" in the same book.  Step 17 of
the "Nautilus," as you have by now deduced, is a crimp, NOT a pleat.

        Now, to compound the difficulty, there are two additional kinds of
crimps:  an inside crimp, and an outside crimp.  These terms have fallen
out of favor recently, but they are good terms because they differ from the
kind of crimp outlined above.  (In actuality,  the line is really blurry
between inside and outside crimps, but we won't delve into that right
now...  8-)  ).  The crimp you're having problems with in Lang's "Nautilus"
is an inside crimp.  These crimps share with the plain crimp the fact that
the lines intersect at some point; in the case of step 19, it's the top
edge.

        You can imagine performing Step 19 as two sets of plain crimps:
one on the top layer of paper, and one on the bottom.  That is to say:
look at the diagram.  Notice that the MOUNTAIN fold is always CLOSER TO THE
LARGE END OF THE MODEL than the valley fold line.  If you were to take that
diagram at face value, and just perform the folds as labeled, you'd end up
with Steps 17-18 all over again!  The mountain fold translates all the way
through the model to the other side; doing it this way -- with plain
crimps, like in Step 17 -- if you flipped the model over, you'd see a
series of fold lines where the VALLEY fold is always CLOSER TO THE LARGE
END OF THE MODEL!  This isn't what you want.  You want it so that, no
matter which side of the model you're looking at, the MOUNTAIN folds are
always CLOSER TO THE LARGE END OF THE MODEL.

        The best way to perform inside crimps like this, I've found, is to
hold one side of the model stewady in one hand, and use the other hand to
sort-of swivel the paper.  In the case of Step 19, you'd be best off
holding the LARGE end of the model and using your other hand to "swivel"
the SMALL end of the model inside.  Remember that the vertical line you see
in Step 19's diagram is also a mountain fold on the other side of the
model, and the diagonal valley fold line is likewise a valley fold on the
other side.  What is going to happen is that a small part of the SMALL end
of the model is going to get tucked inside, covered by a portion of the
LARGE end of the model.  The entire SMALL end of the model will be tilted
down somewhat -- in fact, the model will look similar to the diagram in
Step 16, except in _that_ diagram, the SMALL end lies on top of the LARGE
end.  If you've done it correctly, then the LARGE end will overlie the
SMALL end, no matter which side of the model you look at.

        Of course, the hardest part of this particular model is Step 22!  8-)

        I really hope this has helped a little -- it's inordinately
difficult to explain origami models with text alone!  If I can help some
more, please let me know.

Jerry D. Harris
Denver Museum of Natural History
2001 Colorado Blvd.
Denver, CO  80205
(303) 370-6403

Internet:  jdharris@teal.csn.net
CompuServe:  73132,3372
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        "I repainted the picture Brown had painted for us.  A dying,
shrinking lake...these great...behemoths...dying..."
        "Well," she said, "all you tell me may be so...but I still can't
see why such creatures would have wanted to do it in the first place."
        "Do what, ma'am?"
        "Why, crawl away back under all that rock to die."

-- Roland T. Bird, _Bones for Barnum Brown_





Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 14:54:00 -0400
From: Kelly Reed <kreed@lcsc.edu>
Subject: Re: Michael Shall

On Sun, 12 Feb 1995, Cyrene Slegona wrote:

> On February 14th my class of 27 6th graders, all folders, will fold
> hearts to honor Michael, a friend they never knew, but are indebted to.
>
>

        I will be teaching a fifth grade class to fold hearts and that
class will also be in honor of Michael Shall.  I never knew Michael but
he sounds like a wonderful person.

                              kelly reed
                              lewiston, idaho





Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 14:51:39 -0400
From: Brad Blumenthal <brad@eecs.uic.edu>
Subject: Michael Shall

[...stepping up to the mike...] Ahem, is this thing on?

I realize I've already shared some memories of Michael, but there's
one I forgot to mention, and it won't leave me alone until I share it.

Maybe the most impressive thing about Michael's enthusiasm for origami
was the effect it had on others.  Whenever you asked for something
from origami or FOCA or Origami USA or Michael, he always asked you to
give something back to origami.  Once you saw how much Michael gave,
you couldn't help but want to give as well.

I was at the convention last summer, skipping lunch so I could fold.
Bill Dollar was teaching me the box that helps with butterfly bomb
assembly, and I was folding a couple for his class.  Someone else was
teaching me a dollar bill elf boot fold.  I was teaching yet someone
else Fred Rolm's dollar bill star of David.  So there were about five
people sitting around the table, and we all had about three half-done
models going at once, and everybody's teaching everybody; you get the
picture.

As usual with Michael, I didn't see him, but I heard him.  "I need
someone to..."

I found that I couldn't move fast enough.  "Yes sir!"

"...take this down to registration and bring a box of Annuals back up
to the sales area."

Before I could think about it, I was on my way.  It's not that I'm
always such a helpful guy; it's just that Michael brought out the
impulse to share and help out, and like any good leader, he always did
it by example.

Share and enjoy.

Take care,
brad





Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 15:03:25 -0400
From: Debra Leann Russell <deruss@tenet.edu>
Subject: Re: Michael Shall

Hello All!
        I am new to the list and need some help. I subscribed in hopes of
getting some info on origami. I teach learning disabled (grades 1-6)
students that are socio-economically disadvantaged. The P.E. teacher is
involved in the Boys Club and we have decided that we would like to
begin an origami group for our students. Many of
them are very talented and do fold but are limited by the fact that they
have learned on their own. Now for my question: can anyone give us some
help in starting the group? Where can we get books (that range from beginner
to intermediate) to help us teach the kids? Also, where can we get
something on the history of origami? We would be grateful for any help!

deruss@tenet.edu





Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 15:47:12 -0400
From: John_Morin@transarc.com
Subject: Re: Michael Shall

I met Michael only once about two years ago when he visited Pittsburgh
fold at the Cranberry Arts Festival. I was able to spend a couple of
hours watching and folding with him as he taught children different
origami pieces. Most of the techniques I use in teaching origami I
learned in those few hours.

We had lunch together where I was able to sit with him for an hour and
just chat (one on one). He had just stepped down from the presidency of
the Friends, and I had just joined the Friends. We talked about why he
stepped down from the presidency; how he enjoyed living in NYC; his
views on the success of origami in the US; and teaching origami. I
talked about my family and my two daughters (one of whom was with me). I
talked about my starting a regional group, the "Origami Club of
Pittsburgh - University Chapter," and the worries I had for the club. He
couldn't see how I could fail. And always being in character, he
encouraged me to go to the origami convention.

This single conversation we had together set the tone for my approach to
origami in Pittsburgh. The enthusiasm Michael showed for origami has
rejuvenated me. I think often of that conversation as I help make plans
with the "Origami Club of Pittsburgh."

Just this past weekend, I met another whose life Michael touched. While
visiting, my neighbor pulled out an origami book that she had been
promising to show me (the 89 convention book) and started talking about
a class that she took while in NYC six years ago. Michael Shall had
taught that class.

Happy folding to all!!

        - John Morin.
          Morin@Transarc.com





Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 16:26:43 -0400
From: BPearl@eworld.com
Subject: Re: T Rex

Dear Jerry:
I really appreciated the paleontology lesson. How is my spelling?
Sign me up! It made great dinner conversation last night.  I also shared this
information with Neil Eisman who spends hours folding dinosaur skeletons. I
tried to write you directly but it was returned. Apologizes to those who have
to read this. Thank you again. OM (Origami Mommy) :-)





Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 17:37:49 -0400
From: Cynthia Pettit <pettit@cs.unc.edu>
Subject: Kawasaki Rose -- twist? How?!

Okay, drat it!  I've gotten as far as step 10 in Kawasaki's rose in
_Origami for the Connoiseur_ and I can't do that derned twist thingy!

I searched the archives for postings on the rose, but none were helpful
enough for me to get it... :(  Someone help!

I see the valley folds I'm supposed to do which auto-magically open up
the hole in the center, but I can't see *how* to do it.  I made all
the mountain and valley folds as shown in the diagrams, but it just
doesn't come out right.  It looks like one of those "and with your
*third* hand..." type of steps.

Can anyone explain what they had done wrong and how they finally got
it right?  Are there any simple tricks I need to use?  Are there
in-between steps or photographs of intermediate steps that someone has
out there on the 'Net?

I am determined to get this one!  It's Valentine's day tomorrow! :)

Cyn

PS I just wanted to say that by using appropriate Subject:
descriptions it made it *very* easy to search the archives!  Keep up
the good Subject: lines!
--
"I got a *straw* right here, pal!  You want a demonstration?!?!" -- The Tick





Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 18:18:33 -0400
From: jdharris@teal.csn.net (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: T Rex

>Dear Jerry:
>I really appreciated the paleontology lesson. How is my spelling?
>Sign me up! It made great dinner conversation last night.  I also shared this
>information with Neil Eisman who spends hours folding dinosaur skeletons. I
>tried to write you directly but it was returned. Apologizes to those who have
>to read this. Thank you again. OM (Origami Mommy) :-)

Mom (!) -

        No problem!  Are the origami dinosaur skeletons you referred to the
ones invented by Fumiaki Kawahata?  Are diagrams for these things
available?  If so, could I formally request some xerox copies (or,
alternatively, an address where I can obtain real ones)?  I've seen
pictures, but not the diagrams...

Jerry D. Harris
Denver Museum of Natural History
2001 Colorado Blvd.
Denver, CO  80205
(303) 370-6403

Internet:  jdharris@teal.csn.net
CompuServe:  73132,3372
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        "I repainted the picture Brown had painted for us.  A dying,
shrinking lake...these great...behemoths...dying..."
        "Well," she said, "all you tell me may be so...but I still can't
see why such creatures would have wanted to do it in the first place."
        "Do what, ma'am?"
        "Why, crawl away back under all that rock to die."

-- Roland T. Bird, _Bones for Barnum Brown_





Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 18:26:08 -0400
From: davevans@onramp.net (David W. Evans)
Subject: Shareware: DIRECTLY E-MAIL ME, please, with apologies to all

Origami list subscribers,

        I apologize that your e-mail was taken up by the messages regarding
requests for this elementary shareware origami.

        To: k355@lafn.org (Richard Goczal) [actually, Lili Goczal] and THREE
OTHERS who posted your responses to the list, when I attempted to direct my
reply to you and used your addresses, not the list server, your messages
bounced back to me.

        ******PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOUR INTERNET ACCESS PROVIDER DOES NOT
HAVE A LOW LIMIT ON THE SIZE OF RECEIVED E-MAIL, BECAUSE THAT COULD BE THE
REASON YOUR E-MAIL BOUNCED BACK TO ME WITH MESSAGES SO SCRAMBLED THAT THE
ONLY RECIPIENT'S I.D. I COULD MAKE OUT FROM THE JIBBERISH WAS LILI
GOCZALI'S********  [The *.zip file is 190kb before it's encoded and the
e-mail instructions are probably 5k, so assuming that encoding does not
increase the size of the file - I wouldn't know - you'd need rights to
receive, say, 250kb]

        PLEASE DIRECTLY E-MAIL YOUR REQUESTS, SO THAT ALL I HAVE TO DO IS
CLICK ON "REPLY", ATTACH THE *.ZIP FILE AND INSERT FROM THE CLIPBOARD SOME
INSTRUCTIONS WHICH YOU'LL NEED.

        Please wait a day to make sure that you don't receive it.  It
successfully transferred to many (I have no idea in what shape it arrived).
=====================================
David Evans
davevans@onramp.net





Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 18:56:52 -0400
From: jdharris@teal.csn.net (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: Kawasaki Rose -- twist? How?!

>Okay, drat it!  I've gotten as far as step 10 in Kawasaki's rose in
>_Origami for the Connoiseur_ and I can't do that derned twist thingy!
>
>I searched the archives for postings on the rose, but none were helpful
>enough for me to get it... :(  Someone help!
>
>I see the valley folds I'm supposed to do which auto-magically open up
>the hole in the center, but I can't see *how* to do it.  I made all
>the mountain and valley folds as shown in the diagrams, but it just
>doesn't come out right.  It looks like one of those "and with your
>*third* hand..." type of steps.
>
>Can anyone explain what they had done wrong and how they finally got
>it right?  Are there any simple tricks I need to use?  Are there
>in-between steps or photographs of intermediate steps that someone has
>out there on the 'Net?
>
>I am determined to get this one!  It's Valentine's day tomorrow! :)
>
>Cyn

Cyn -

        Ah, the "Rose"...one of my favorite origami models!   But I agree
-- it's a doozy!  Of course, I've made so many of them at this point, that
I can't recall exactly what tipped me off to complete Steps 11-14, where
you're having problems, but let me see if I can be of some assistance!

        Kawasaki's "Rose" is one of those models that can be folded in a
few different ways.  The way _I_ personally do it is this:  ignore the
portion of Steps 10-14 that show the center "hole" opened up.  It's easier
to not open the hole until the rest of the model is locked up tight!

        To do this, when performing Step 10, let's take just the lower
right corner.  See the line Kasahara's got marked with the script "l"?
That's the line you valley fold on.  The short horizontal line directly
below that -- the diagram shows it to be a mere crease line, but as the
model becomes 3D in the procedure from Step 10 onwards, it's easier here to
make it a mountain fold -- and, as a mountain fold, it continues up (hidden
in the diagram) up until the point at which it intersects the diagonal line
(which is, in the diagram for Step 10, the folded edge that runs down into
the lower right corner -- and, of course, all the other corners, too!)
=46olding the model this way causes the upper part of the diagonal line to
"poof" up into 3D; after doing all four corners in a similar manner, the
hole in the center _still_ isn't open, but you can proceed on to the other
steps.  Be careful in Step 11! -- be aware that there are folds on _both_
sides of each corner, which is pictured clearly only in the upper right
corner of the diagram!

        Another hint:  when doing Steps 11-14,  do the specified folds for
those steps on each corner before doing the rest!  That is to say, do steps
11, 12, and 13 (producing 14) on the lower right corner, then go back and
do 11, 12, and 13 on another corner, and so forth.  This helps each corner
stay locked together while you do another one.  (OK, parts of them _do_
have to be done in conjunction with each other, but try it this way first,
and you'll see what I mean!)  Lastly, at Step 15, beware to fold the points
in in a _clockwise_  manner -- that is, fold one point down; the next one
should be the one clockwise to it.  Otherwise, it won't work.

        After the model is locked up at Step 15, you can now turn it over
and carefully use your finger to round out the central hole (which is
formed from the tiny square twist-folded in Step 8).  Now you can round the
petals, and voil=E0!  One instant "Rose!"   I recommend backing it with the
"Calyx" by Eric Kenneway in his book _Origami:  Paperfolding For Fun_.  The
leaves there, too, can be modified slightly to more closely resemble a real
rose's leaves.  I've invented a technique using a piece of coat-hanger for
a stem, and then using long strips of green paper (the same for the calyx
and leaves) to wrap the stem, and even create thorns!

        A final hint:  the model actually works best if wet-folded or using
tissue foil -- the locking steps really do hold together best that way!

Jerry D. Harris
Denver Museum of Natural History
2001 Colorado Blvd.
Denver, CO  80205
(303) 370-6403

Internet:  jdharris@teal.csn.net
CompuServe:  73132,3372
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
        "I repainted the picture Brown had painted for us.  A dying,
shrinking lake...these great...behemoths...dying..."
        "Well," she said, "all you tell me may be so...but I still can't
see why such creatures would have wanted to do it in the first place."
        "Do what, ma'am?"
        "Why, crawl away back under all that rock to die."

-- Roland T. Bird, _Bones for Barnum Brown_





Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 19:36:49 -0400
From: Jonathan Wildstrom <95JWILDSTROM@vax.mbhs.edu>
Subject: Re: Michael Shall

>        I will be teaching a fifth grade class to fold hearts and that
>class will also be in honor of Michael Shall.  I never knew Michael but
>he sounds like a wonderful person.

Well, might as well keep up the thread. I'm a student, and though I never knew
Michael Shall, I thought it would be nice to do this. I'm going to teach a
class I'm taking some simple origami (probably the star box). The only problem
is that the available day is Wed. (instead of tuesday). But I feel that it's
still a good way to pay my respects, even if it is a day late.
               -Jon





Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 22:23:51 -0400
From: Kevin Thorne <C598033@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu>
Subject: A test!!

     To everyone out there.  A question for everyone to put in there opinion
about.  What is the most difficult origami model from a sigle piece of paper?
I'm looking for something new to work on, and wonder what you think.

                         Kevin





Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 14:10:51 -0400
From: pdc@lunch.engr.sgi.com (Paul Close)
Subject: Re: A test!!

>      To everyone out there.  A question for everyone to put in there opinion
> about.  What is the most difficult origami model from a sigle piece of paper?
> I'm looking for something new to work on, and wonder what you think.

How about a perfect sphere?  :-)

I think traditionally, that to take a square with four corers, and make
something with more than four extensions has always been difficult, or at
least tricky.  For example, the crab is a classic, with eight legs.  However,
because it is a classic example, it has been done, many times.  Also
difficult is odd numbers of corners, like a five-pointed star.  Montrol
has an example in Animal Origami for the Enthusiast.  It's a cool fold, in
that an intermediate step is a five pointed preliminary fold!

Also difficult is any realistic looking animal or insect shape, but those
have been done before :-)  Also, nature is very regular, and usually
symmetric.  Since a square is also symmetric, that's too easy!  (ha, ha)

Another thing I see rarely done is a three-dimensional car.  I'm sure that
four wheels on the corners is hard enough, without trying to fold a hollow
in the middle!  Paul Jackson has a Bugatti in one of his books about learning
origami.  You start by creasing a piece of paper into a 16x16 grid, if I
remember properly!

So, either something rather unsymmetric, like that crab with one claw very
large (afraid I don't know my crabs very well), or a seven-pointed star.
Depends on whether you like geometric shapes or animals.  Those should keep
you busy for a while!  How about it?
--
Paul Close          pdc@sgi.com          http://reality.sgi.com/employees/pdc/

                     No fate but what we make





Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 15:00:41 -0400
From: Winson Chan <winsonc@sfu.ca>
Subject: Re: A test!!

>
>      To everyone out there.  A question for everyone to put in there opinion
> about.  What is the most difficult origami model from a sigle piece of paper?
> I'm looking for something new to work on, and wonder what you think.
>
>
>
>                          Kevin
>
How about making a stem for a flower (the rose in particular).  To make it
a bit harder, add a bit of math into it.  If I remember from math class, the
spacing in the leaves exibit a fibinocci (sp?) sequence.  The fibinocci
sequence is 0 1 1 2 3 5 8 13

x[n] = x[n-1] + x[n-2], given that x[0] = 0 and x[1] = 1.





Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 17:10:58 -0400
From: Kim Best <Kim.Best@m.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: Re: A test!!

On Mon, 13 Feb 1995, Kevin Thorne wrote:

>      To everyone out there.  A question for everyone to put in there opinion
> about.  What is the most difficult origami model from a sigle piece of paper?
> I'm looking for something new to work on, and wonder what you think.
>
>
>
>                          Kevin
>

I would say Engel's butterfly from his book 'From Angel Fish to Zen'.  By
the time I get to the head, the paper is so frayed, that if I try to fold
as specified in the directions, the paper starts to split.  So I alway
end up folding some simple looking head not quite like the directions.
People still seem to like my results anyway.

Kim Best                                  *************************
                                          *      Origamists       *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System         *  Are good with their  *
420 Chipeta Way #120                      *        Hands          *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108               *************************





Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 18:37:52 -0400
From: Dan Gries <dangries@math.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: splitting paper

> ...By the time I get to the head, the paper is so frayed, that if I try
> to fold as specified in the directions, the paper starts to split.

splitting paper is a problem for me sometimes - i wonder if it has something
to do with the age of the paper.  perhaps someone could shed some light on
this - i.e., the strength of variuos types of paper.  perhaps the answer
is to just not crease as hard.  that would be a hard habit to break!

thanks
 -dan





Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 19:54:21 -0400
From: Gordon Crane <craneg@DGS.dgsys.COM>
Subject: looking for tassel material

I am looking for diverse colored tassel material. I do not want ready
made tassels but rather the material composing the tassels themselves.
This is to be used on geometric, kusudama type origami figures. Thanks in
advance.  Kim's Crane





Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 23:43:42 -0400
From: pdc@lunch.engr.sgi.COM (Paul Close)
Subject: Re: junk msgs, end sub etc

Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>, nicely points out the following:
>
> One of the "novices" asked about the meaning of an "end subscription"
> message in a thread about origami books:
>
> The meaning is that someone not only doesn't know how to properly place a
> subject heading in their message, they also haven't troubled to learn how
> to get off a mail list, and are broadcasting their "unsubscribe" and "end
> subscription" message to the whole list instead of sending the request to
> the list server.
>
> Don't let this happen to you!
> Read the FAQs! Ask! Read a book!
> Some of us have to pay for email!
>
> --valerie
> Compuserve: Valerie Vann 75070,304
> Internet: 75070.304@compuserve.com

Then, someone immediately follows up with:
>
> unsubscribe mranese@orion.it.luc.edu
> _____________________________________________________________________
> maria raneses            mranese@orion.it.luc.edu
> _____________________________________________________________________

=:-o

This is the rudest thing I have ever seen!  The sheer audacity is
mind-boggling!  Someone just got finished telling you NOT TO DO THIS!!
(Counting slowly to 10..............)

I run several lists on my machine, using majordomo.  Majordomo has a message
filter so that subscribes, etc., are sent to the list maintainer so the
whole list doesn't see them.  A fair bit of junk gets filtered out that way!
I've only been on this list for two days, and I've seen more unsubscribes
than messages!  Doesn't listproc have an admin filter of some sort?  This is
getting out of hand....

Obligitory Origami question: has anyone worked out some mathematical function
to take the guesswork out of the initial steps of Montrol's Dromedary?  With
some paper, like foil, it's hard (and unsightly) to make multiple "guess"
folds.  And if you don't get that fold right, you end up playing "catch up"
for the rest of the model.  As a side note, I'm very impressed with the way
the head turns out on that and the camel model!  Simple but effective....
--
Paul Close          pdc@sgi.com          http://reality.sgi.com/employees/pdc/

                     No fate but what we make





Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 01:42:33 -0400
From: jdharris@teal.csn.net (Jerry D. Harris)
Subject: Re: junk msgs, end sub etc

Paul -

>Obligitory Origami question: has anyone worked out some mathematical function
>to take the guesswork out of the initial steps of Montrol's Dromedary?  With
>some paper, like foil, it's hard (and unsightly) to make multiple "guess"
>folds.  And if you don't get that fold right, you end up playing "catch up"
>for the rest of the model.  As a side note, I'm very impressed with the way
>the head turns out on that and the camel model!  Simple but effective....
>--
>Paul Close

        Montroll himself did this; check out his book _African Animals in
Origami_, specifically the instructions for the "Gorilla," pp. 70-71.  It's
a non-guesswork technique for obtaining the identical base folds seen in
the "Dromedary."

Jerry D. Harris
Denver Museum of Natural History
2001 Colorado Blvd.
Denver, CO  80205
(303) 370-6403

Internet:  jdharris@teal.csn.net
CompuServe:  73132,3372
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
        "I repainted the picture Brown had painted for us.  A dying,
shrinking lake...these great...behemoths...dying..."
        "Well," she said, "all you tell me may be so...but I still can't
see why such creatures would have wanted to do it in the first place."
        "Do what, ma'am?"
        "Why, crawl away back under all that rock to die."

-- Roland T. Bird, _Bones for Barnum Brown_





Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 01:59:34 -0400
From: Joseph Wu <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Montroll's Dromedary (was Re: junk msgs, end sub etc)

On Wed, 15 Feb 1995, Jerry D. Harris wrote:

> >Obligitory Origami question: has anyone worked out some mathematical function
> >to take the guesswork out of the initial steps of Montrol's Dromedary?  With
> >some paper, like foil, it's hard (and unsightly) to make multiple "guess"
> >folds.  And if you don't get that fold right, you end up playing "catch up"
> >for the rest of the model.  As a side note, I'm very impressed with the way
> >the head turns out on that and the camel model!  Simple but effective....
>
>         Montroll himself did this; check out his book _African Animals in
> Origami_, specifically the instructions for the "Gorilla," pp. 70-71.  It's
> a non-guesswork technique for obtaining the identical base folds seen in
> the "Dromedary."

Ah, but the solution provided in the Origami Tanteidan newsletter is so
much more elegant. I've just finished the diagrams, by the way, and will
upload it to the ftp site now. It will be in the file "guess.ps".

Joseph Wu      <jwu@cs.ubc.ca> | Witty quote is now back to the
Master's Student               |   drawing board due to squeamish
University of British Columbia |   readers. Any suggestions?
WWW: http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html (Origami Page)





Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 02:05:53 -0400
From: Joseph Wu <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Diagrams for the base to Montroll's Dromedary

I have finished these diagrams, as previously mentioned, but have yet to
upload them to the archives since the connection keeps timing out. They
will, however, be available via the Origami Page (see URL below).

Joseph Wu      <jwu@cs.ubc.ca> | Witty quote is now back to the
Master's Student               |   drawing board due to squeamish
University of British Columbia |   readers. Any suggestions?
WWW: http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html (Origami Page)





Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 10:44:45 -0400
From: Anita Reinehr <ali@albemarle.aero.org>
Subject: Info on Origami Tanteidan please

Joseph:

Who produces the Origami Tanteidan newsletter? How much? How often?

Anita





Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 10:31:26 -0400
From: Jeannine Mosely <j9@icad.com>
Subject: Re: A test!!

   Errors-To: listmgr@nstn.ca
   Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 14:10:51 -0400
   Errors-To: listmgr@nstn.ca
   Reply-To: origami-l@nstn.ca
   Originator: origami-l@nstn.ca
   Sender: origami-l@nstn.ca
   Precedence: none
   From: pdc@lunch.engr.sgi.com (Paul Close)
   X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas

   >      To everyone out there.  A question for everyone to put in there
     opinion
   > about.  What is the most difficult origami model from a sigle piece of
     paper?
   > I'm looking for something new to work on, and wonder what you think.

In addition to folding paper, I also collect antique spinning wheels.
I'd love to see someone fold one of those!  Also, for those familiar
with Montroll's chessboard, does anyone know how to fold a Go board?

        -- jeannine





Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 10:50:32 -0400
From: Anita Reinehr <ali@albemarle.aero.org>
Subject: Re: looking for tassel material

If you are lucky enough to live in an area with a decent size Japanese
American population, try a Japanese yarn shop or a Japanese craft shop
that teaches 'lili bunka'.  Lili bunka is punch embroidery using unraveled
tassel material to give the picture a rich texture.

Or go to a regular fabric shop and get the fringe by the yard trim
material.  Roll the ribbon/attached part into a jelly roll to from
your own tassel.  Some of these can be overwhelming and may not be
suitable for kusudama unless the kusudama is very big.

Anita





Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 12:00:13 -0400
From: WILD CHUCK HENRY <HENR2905@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu>
Subject: Newletters and such...

Howdy everybody,
  I'm new to the list, but have been practicing origami for years.  I
wasn't aware until joining the list how active some of the origami
some addresses of some organizations and newsletters?  I'm interested in
seeing what's new in the origami world.
  I also have a small question- Has anyone seen (or created) good
instructions for a model of a gargoyle?  There's one in a book called
"Mythical Beings" by... I don't remember who.  It was nice, but it didn't
capture the "stoney" feeling of the beast.  Help anyone?
 Thanks!
-C
   I\       /     I Wild Chuck Henry
 \ I\ \    /      I HENR2905@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu
  \I  \ \ /       I Elementary Education Major at SUNY Plattsburgh
   I\   \ \       I
   I \    \ \     I Geek Code 2.1  GED/GSS d H++>+++ s !g p1+ !au a- w+
   I  \     \ \   I v+(*) C++ U- !P !L !3 E? !N K W--- M- V -po+ Y+ t 5+
   I   I      \ \ I j- R++ G++>' tv- b++ D+ B--- e+(*) u+(*) f+>++ r++
   I   I        \ I n--- y+





Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 13:46:41 -0400
From: BPearl@eworld.com
Subject: Re: Michael Shall

Dear Debra:

Another very EASY origami book is: Math in Motion: Origami in the Classroom
(K-6).  Call Delta Education toll free at l-800-442-5444 for more
information. Good luck with your project.

Barbara





Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 14:19:31 -0400
From: Yusri Johan <gs01yyj@panther.Gsu.EDU>
Subject: Origami book for beginners to intermediate (was Re:Michael Shall)

Hi Debra,
If you are looking for origami books that are suitable for beginners to
intermediate, there are two books that I would recommend. Both books are
written by Steve Biddle and Megumi Biddle.
They are:
1. New Origami
2. Essential Origami
The models in these two books range from beginners to intermediate
although some are complex.

Another source that I would recommend is the origami videos. There are
actually several of them, but the only one I have seen is "The Magic of
Paper Folding"(4 vols). The models in this video are fairly simple, so it
is suitable for beginners.

Later.
Yusri





Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 15:28:50 -0400
From: Helen Horner 407-359-7533 <HORNERH@mail.firn.edu>
Subject: RE: hellooooo

Dee, I would like to know how to subscribe to the OUSA newsletter and
anything else that pertains to origami would be helpful. I'm in Orlando and
would like to get in touch with a group here if you know of one. Thanks to
all theose who answered my inquiries to date.

Helen
HORNERH@A1.firn.edu





Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 16:32:09 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: junk msgs, end sub etc

Sheldon,

The person who originally asked the question about the meaning of "end
subscription" in a thread on origami books was not, as far as I could tell,
trying to get off the list, but rather a new user who was interested in the
subject of the thread, but new enough to be confused by the content of the
message in question.

I don't know about you, but when I subscribed to this list (and others...) I got
a reply which stated how to unsubscribe and how to get additional info via email
from the archives (it is even possible to get about anything from the archives
via email), including how to get the FAQs.

The other reason I suggested looking it up, asking, reading a book is that
people are far more likely to remember something if it takes a little effort.
But I'm sure that unsubscribe directions will now be lavishly posted... I
emailed a copy of the FAQ to a couple of folks who asked.

The good news is that all the "new computer for Xmas" folks have exhausted the
free online service subscriptions that came with their new modems and are
dropping off mail lists and the said services in droves. The next flurry of
"unsubscribe" messages will occur at the end of the school year, when the
students lose their free Internet access....

Valerie Vann
Compuserve: 75070,304
Internet:       75070.304@compuserve.com
                         vvann@delphi.com
                         vvann@netcom.com
                   valerivann@aol.com





Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 16:51:43 -0400
From: Kevin Kennedy 356-2447 <KKENNEDY@galaxy.gov.bc.ca>
Subject: Re: junk msgs, end sub etc

    Hi,

    REAL ORIGAMI STUFF is at the end of this message...

    I have been lurking for a few months now and I really enjoy this
    list despite the extraneous "unsubscribes" and "me too" messages
    which clutter it.

    As someone else has pointed out, I think that part of the problem
    is that people don't have easy access to the FAQ(s) for this
    group.  In particular, new or inexperienced users have to ask for
    information just to figure out how to get any information.  What
    some usenet groups do is periodically post their FAQ to the group,
    so that if a new users waits around long enough, he or she will
    get the FAQ sent to them automatically.

    Are there any problems with mailing the FAQ to the list once a
    month?  The disadvantage of a FAQ-sized message every so often
    might be outweighed by a less junk mail on the list (including
    stuff like this message).

    REAL ORIGAMI STUFF:
    For Valentine's Day, I made several "hearts on a stand" (the stand
    is at the back, like on a picture frame) which I learned somewhere
    (a book by Paul Jackson?).  This was fun, but while sitting at my
    desk at work, I noticed a pad of square pink Post-it notes.
    Always eager for a new medium, I figured out a way to fold the
    heart so that the sticky part of the paper came out at the back
    (on the stand), making a perfect way to stick the heart onto
    documents, lapels, computer monitors, etc.  I am I the first to
    exploit the post-it media?  Does anybody else have any models
    which might be appropriate for it?

    Sorry for the long message,
    Kevin Kennedy

    kkennedy@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
    "I'm just a poor slob trying to make movies" - Orson Welles





Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 17:57:20 -0400
From: rshuster@netaxs.com (Bob Shuster)
Subject: Valentine's Day folding project

For Valentine's Day I decided to tackle Peter Engel's "Valentine" (from
Folding the Universe p.142.)  This looked like a difficult model (and I was
right!) so I never tried it before, but thought I'd give it a shot.  I used
6" paper, pink on one side, white on the other.  If I ever did it again, I
think I'd have to start with at least 10" paper, and perhaps wet-fold it
since there are some very minute folds to make.  I did encounter some minor
tearing, but all the torn bits were concealed inside the model.  Once
completed I had a lovely pink 3D heart with an arrow coming through it.  My
wife loved it.   - Bob

      = = =      /| Bob Shuster                           |\      = = =
[>----|-|-|-----/ |   Composer/Arranger/Copyist/MIDI &    | \-----|-|-|----<]
  (___|_|_|____)\ |   Computer Consultant  (215-927-4928) | /(____|_|_|___)
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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 18:08:55 -0400
From: Kim Best <Kim.Best@m.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: Re: junk msgs, end sub etc

On Tue, 14 Feb 1995, Paul Close wrote:

>
> Obligitory Origami question: has anyone worked out some mathematical function
> to take the guesswork out of the initial steps of Montrol's Dromedary?  With
> some paper, like foil, it's hard (and unsightly) to make multiple "guess"
> folds.  And if you don't get that fold right, you end up playing "catch up"
> for the rest of the model.  As a side note, I'm very impressed with the way
> the head turns out on that and the camel model!  Simple but effective....

I don't know about the guess work problem, but...

I have found that you can make a really good camel by combining the body
of the camel in 'Origami Zoo' with Montrols Camels head.  It's been a
while since I have folded it.  So I don't recall which steps you have to
change (If any) to do it.  But the if you try it out, you will probably
be able to figure it out.  If anyone has problems doing this.  I'll post
more explicit instructions.

Kim Best                                  *************************
                                          *      Origamists       *
Rocky Mountain Cancer Data System         *  Are good with their  *
420 Chipeta Way #120                      *        Hands          *
Salt Lake City, Utah  84108               *************************





Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 18:10:10 -0400
From: "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu>
Subject: easy origami for Debra

Debra -

Someone mentioned earlierthe Biddle book "Essential Origami"  While it is good,
the Biddle's have an even better book for kids (IMHO ;-> [I just learned that
one the other day])  It is called _Amazing Origami for Children_ and it is
published by Chartwell Books, Inc., in Secaucus, NJ.  I couldn't find an ISBN
anywhere...  There are a lot of really fun things for kids to do.

Another good book is Florence Temko's _Paper Pandas and Jumping Frogs_ (this
one DOES have an ISBN #0-8351-1770-7.  In addition to diagrams, Mrs. Temko
also lists alternate projects to do with the models (like making up games
with the jumping frogs, making hats out of salt cellars, etc.)  I have used the
models in this book for several classes I've taught.

Have fun!

Dee





Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 18:45:22 -0400
From: pdc@lunch.engr.sgi.com (Paul Close)
Subject: Re: Montroll's Dromedary

> I have finished these diagrams, as previously mentioned, but have yet to
> upload them to the archives since the connection keeps timing out. They
> will, however, be available via the Origami Page (see URL below).

Interesting!  And if you want to cheat, I figured out that the height of the
corner triangle is:

 h = ________w__________ = __w___   OR   h = __d___
     ( 2 * sqrt(2) - 1 )   1.8284            2.5858

Where w is the width of the paper, and d is the diagonal measurement (and of
course d = srqt(2) * w).  Not really intuitive :-)
--
Paul Close          pdc@sgi.com          http://reality.sgi.com/employees/pdc/

                     No fate but what we make





Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 19:48:46 -0400
From: "Lisa, Hodsdon" <LISAHAA@vax3.hmco.com>
Subject: RE: junk msgs, end sub etc

The server automatically acknowledges the subscription with information about
     HELP from listserv, could new subscribers also get the FAQ which includes
     information on where to find lists of organizations, how to contact
     Origami-USA (is that their name now

Granted, this would not save the list from "subscribe" messages. And probably
     also would not save many "unsubscribe" messages. But it could cut down on
     a few of the frequently asked questions (which is what the FAQ is for --
     right?) and would seem like a

I don't like making new subscribers feel uncomfortable by complaining about how
     they don't know what to do. I personally make a point of trying not to
     look like an idiot (well, that's only true if you don't know me very
     well). But that's mostly because I

Obligatory Origami Question : I remember skimming a discussion about making
     paper with an edge of square root 2 (?) (around August?) -- was this
     something that might make a reasonable sort of math question/application?
     (Sorry, I don't have access to the a

Just my 2 cents.

(and glad to be re-subscribed!)

Lisa Hodsdon
hodsdon@hmco.com





Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 19:55:41 -0400
From: Doug Philips <dwp+@transarc.com>
Subject: Folding with "non-"origami paper (was: making paper)

In message <199502062040.NAA25606@mercury.cair.du.edu>,
    "BOB T. LYNCH" <blynch@du.edu> wrote:
+holographic papers.  The advantages of wrapping paper are legion - you can
+cut it to just about any size you want (or at least a square as big as the
+roll is wide), it's cheaper, and sometimes it's more fun to work with due to
+the prints and colors you can find.

Indeed!  Another source of paper is "artists" paper, (Fadeless is one brand
name that pops to mind).  One annoying thing about most wrapping paper is that
the patterns tend to be large, which is OK for visibility on packages, but
which doesn't do too well when folded.

+The holographic papers I use are sometime bad about that too - you wind up
+seeing all (and I do mean all) your creases! (I have learned to do models befo
+rehand and figure out exactly what creases I really need, or if I can just get
+by with partial creases, etc.)

I like the looks of the unfolded holographic/prismatic papers, but I find that
the paper cracks along the crease lines and doesn't like to hold the creases
very well.

+After that huge missive - there really isnt anything wrong with using wrapping
+paper rather tham regular origami paper!

Agreed!  You have to get to know the paper, expect your first few models to
be experiments, find out how the paper will react, and you'll do fine.  If
you expect wrapping paper to act like pre-packaged (kami) origami paper, you
will be in for a suprise!

-Doug





Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 20:03:31 -0400
From: Sheldon Ackerman <ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: Valentine's Day folding project

> For Valentine's Day I decided to tackle Peter Engel's "Valentine" (from
> Folding the Universe p.142.)  This looked like a difficult model (and I
was
> right!) so I never tried it before, but thought I'd give it a shot.  I
used
> 6" paper, pink on one side, white on the other.  If I ever did it again,
I
> think I'd have to start with at least 10" paper, and perhaps wet-fold it
> since there are some very minute folds to make.  I did encounter some
minor
> tearing, but all the torn bits were concealed inside the model.  Once
> completed I had a lovely pink 3D heart with an arrow coming through it.
My
> wife loved it.   - Bob

I've completed the model numerous times and love it. I am finally getting
to the point where the sinking that is done on the shaft is getting to be
easy. At this point I am no longer afraid to unfold the flaps on either
side of the shaft to obtain a neater sink fold.

What I would love to figure out, but it seems beyond me, would be a way
that the shaft would end up facing properly oriented. That is what upsets
me about this model. Sometimes I end up twisting the entire shaft to get a
screw-type effect. Other times I just twist the parts closest to the hearts
and then cover them with the loose flaps.
Like you mention, the model is always a hit.

----
ackerman@dorsai.dorsai.org
sheldon.ackerman@nycps.nycenet.edu





Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 22:48:33 -0400
From: Valerie Vann <75070.304@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Post-it (tm) origami

Kevin,

A heart with the sticky in the right place is a wonderful Idea!
Like most folders, I can't keep my hands off any "little square
piece of paper" but all I came up with for Post-its is a cube that
uses the sticky as G__e (pardon the expression...). But all my
office's Post-its are pastel (boring); we can't get the bright
colors (sigh).

I have got several modular units from the paper part of gum wrappers;
they just happen to come 15 to a pack, so 2 packs make an icosahedron
type model. Even one of my bosses kids save the packs for me after
pulling out the gum in the inner white or silver wrap, so the outer
packaging gets recycled at least!

--valerie
Compuserve: Valerie Vann 75070,304
Internet: 75070.304@compuserve.com





Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 23:42:15 -0400
From: davevans@onramp.net (David W. Evans)
Subject: DALLAS Origami Bookstores?

Does anyone have a list of origami bookstores in the Dallas-Ft.Worth
metroplex? Austin? Houston? San Antonio?

Thanks.
=====================================
David Evans
davevans@onramp.net





Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 00:32:06 -0400
From: Joseph Wu <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Montroll's Dromedary (was Re: junk msgs, end sub etc)

On Tue, 14 Feb 1995, Paul Close wrote:

> Obligitory Origami question: has anyone worked out some mathematical function
> to take the guesswork out of the initial steps of Montrol's Dromedary?  With
> some paper, like foil, it's hard (and unsightly) to make multiple "guess"
> folds.  And if you don't get that fold right, you end up playing "catch up"
> for the rest of the model.  As a side note, I'm very impressed with the way
> the head turns out on that and the camel model!  Simple but effective....

Yes, there is a way. In fact, I just saw it in the latest Origami
Tanteidan (Detectives) newsletter. However, it is not easy to explain.
I'll try to whip up a Postscript version of it and send it to the archives.

Joseph Wu      <jwu@cs.ubc.ca> | Witty quote is now back to the
Master's Student               |   drawing board due to squeamish
University of British Columbia |   readers. Any suggestions?
WWW: http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/jwu/origami.html (Origami Page)





Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 22:10:40 -0400
From: JanetJWH@aol.com
Subject: Re: Michael Shall

>       I am new to the list and need some help. I subscribed in hopes of
>getting some info on origami. I teach learning disabled (grades 1-6)
>students that are socio-economically disadvantaged. The P.E. teacher is
>involved in the Boys Club and we have decided that we would like to
>begin an origami group for our students. Many of
>them are very talented and do fold but are limited by the fact that they
>have learned on their own. Now for my question: can anyone give us some
>help in starting the group? Where can we get books (that range from beginner

>to intermediate) to help us teach the kids? Also, where can we get
>something on the history of origami? We would be grateful for any help!

Debra,

The annual Origami USA (OUSA) convention will be June 23-25 in NYC.  There
will also be a Conference on Origami in Education and Therapy (COET) as a
follow-on, I believe on June 26.  You can get information from OUSA by
contacting them at 212-769-5635.

You can get books and paper from the OUSA supply center:
The Origami Source
c/o Phyllis Meth
40-05 166th Street
Flushing, NY 11358.

A very simple book for beginners is "Easy Origami" by John Montroll.  The
supply center list includes information on the difficulty of each book.

Janet
