




Date: Thu, 17 Jun 93 20:38:47 ADT
From: wbfst1@cislabs.pitt.edu
Subject: Re: Repetitive motion and flowers

Sue mentions leaving origami cranes (since she loves them) all throughut
Disneyland.  I've thought of that, leaving them in people's houses, as sort
of a present.  Of coursese, they might not appreciate all that paper in
odd places like the flour can :):)

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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 93 21:02:03 ADT
From: Joseph Wu <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Re:Repetitive motion and flowers

William Fisher writes:
>Sue mentions leaving origami cranes (since she loves them) all throughut
>Disneyland.  I've thought of that, leaving them in people's houses, as sort
>of a present.  Of coursese, they might not appreciate all that paper in
>odd places like the flour can :):)

When I travel (which isn't much, these days), I often stay in friends' homes.
I like to give origami models as housegifts. There is something satisfying
about asking the host what they would like and then making it for them on the
spot. Mind you, sometimes it takes a while for them to name something that I
can actually make on the fly! 8) I also like to leave origami models as part
of the tip in restaurants. There's a restaurant in town that serves something
called "Albino Rhino" ale, so I leave a white rhinoceros (Kasahara's). 8)

Joseph Wu    <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>   | Witty quote is now back to the
Master's Candidate             |   drawing board due to squeamish
University of British Columbia |   readers. Any suggestions?





Date: Fri, 18 Jun 93 08:55:36 ADT
From: Agnes Tomorrow <atom@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Greetings! and re: Bill folds

 Hello!  I've finally gotten the right combination to get on to
this list--dunno what I was doing wrong, but I've tried a couple of times
without success, so I'm highly gratified to be here at last!

On Thu, 17 Jun 1993, Joseph Wu wrote:

>  I also like to leave origami models as part
> of the tip in restaurants. There's a restaurant in town that serves something
> called "Albino Rhino" ale, so I leave a white rhinoceros (Kasahara's). 8)

 I only know a couple of bill folds, which I've learned from other
people--can you recommend a good source for more?  It really is fun to
leave models as tips--I just wish I knew more of them!  I recall seeing a
book, "Bill Folds" or some such, in the Friends catalogue--is it any good?
 Also--I've read about wet folding, but so far it just seems like
damp paper wants to come apart in my hands--is this something that can be
explained verbally, or will I have to go to the convention one of these
years to learn more about it?
 Thanks in advance for feedback--it's really exciting to be here!

 Agnes Tomorrow
 <atom@u.washinton.edu>





Date: Fri, 18 Jun 93 09:56:01 ADT
From: reddi@sgi1.fels.temple.edu (Shashi Reddi)
Subject: Re: Hello

Hi! I thought i would use the collective wisdom of the group, what are some
good books on origami.
thank you for your help, in advance.
ciao.
sashi.





Date: Fri, 18 Jun 93 10:55:30 ADT
From: bruce <bruce@uxb.liverpool.ac.uk>
Subject: Wet folding

>  Also--I've read about wet folding, but so far it just seems like
> damp paper wants to come apart in my hands--is this something that can be
> explained verbally, or will I have to go to the convention one of these
> years to learn more about it?

Try using thicker paper.  By wet-folding, it's quite possible to fold thick
coloured paper, which, when tried, produces a nearly permanent object.

Another often mentioned trick is if the paper seems about to break, just let
it dry a little before continuing.

Bruce              CMSR, University of Liverpool





Date: Fri, 18 Jun 93 11:20:14 ADT
From: "M. KENT VILLARD" <villard@venus.cc.hollandc.pe.ca>
Subject: RE: Greetings! and re: Bill folds

Hi all,

I do not post much but I was curious,

My fiance's brother (he's 15) does these really cool thing with paper money.
He folds 5 paper bills (he's gone as high as 20's I think) into what looks like
a very neat miniture men's dress shirt.  Is this origami???

Just curious
Kent
villard@venus.cc.hollandc.pe.ca





Date: Sat, 19 Jun 93 02:50:38 ADT
From: andataco!vann@UCSD.EDU (V'Ann Cornelius)
Subject: Re: Wet folding

As a follow up on Bruce's comment, I went to Michael LaFosse's
class on wet folding. He spoke about how the sizing in paper is
softened so that the only thing being folded is the paper, therefore
(as bruce mentioned) it is possible and realistic to do some interesting
things with 'thick paper' like watercolor weight paper.

Michael had us spray the paper and sponge it until it was 'leathery'.
We worked with canson paper in the class.
v'ann





Date: Sat, 19 Jun 93 02:52:29 ADT
From: andataco!vann@UCSD.EDU (V'Ann Cornelius)
Subject: RE: Greetings! and re: Bill folds

Kent, you bring up an interesting topic... at what point do paperfolders
stop considering folded objects as 'origami'?  Is the folded cardboard
display at the grocery story origami if the opened shape is not cut?
Is a piece of clay that has been formed only by folding into a bowl
giving the appearance of an origami box.... called origami?

The men's dress shirts that I have seen folded with money or not have
delighted the people who received them.  They have not included cuts/glue.
I'd count them!
V'Ann





Date: Sat, 19 Jun 93 04:16:43 ADT
From: awong@cns.caltech.edu (A Wong)
Subject: RE: Greetings! and re: Bill folds

Where is the men's dress shirt with multiple $1 bills described?
This sounds like a pretty item.





Date: Sat, 19 Jun 93 14:35:17 ADT
From: bruce <bruce@uxb.liverpool.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Wet folding

> softened so that the only thing being folded is the paper, therefore
> (as bruce mentioned) it is possible and realistic to do some interesting
> things with 'thick paper' like watercolor weight paper.
>
> Michael had us spray the paper and sponge it until it was 'leathery'.
> We worked with canson paper in the class.
> v'ann

Leathery is an excellent description of the state of the paper, assuming you're
using watercolor paper (as I tend to).  Remember also to wet the paper before
cutting to shape, because the paper will tend to expand in one direction more
than the other.

Bruce              CMSR, University of Liverpool





Date: Sat, 19 Jun 93 16:23:19 ADT
From: lavin@Athena.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Wet folding

Bruce writes:

>Leathery is an excellent description of the state of the paper,
>assuming you're using watercolor paper (as I tend to).  Remember also
>to wet the paper before cutting to shape, because the paper will tend
>to expand in one direction more than the other.

You have to be careful with this.  It depends on the type of paper you
use (in particular, whether it has a really noticeable grain), how
much it tends to expand when wet, etc.

The way Michael LaFosse described it, in paper with a strong grain
(most machine-made papers, for instance) the paper will expand during
wetting much more in one direction than the other because the paper
fibers act like little hoses -- when wet, they fill up and expand in
width, but not much in length.  So if you have paper with grain, i.e.
most of the fibers oriented in one direction, the sheet as a whole
will expand most in the direction of the width of the fibers.
Hand-made paper will tend to expand more evenly, so it's not as much
of a problem.

In Michael's class at the convention (and others I've taken with him
here in Boston) when we used machine-made (grained) paper we cut the
paper to square while it was dry, wet it, and folded the non-square
shape.  The reasoning being that the paper will, as it dries, pull
itself back into the original square.  If you cut it to square while
wet, the resulting dry shape will not be square, and the model can
pull itself out of shape.

Folding the non-square shape is an interesting challange.  You have to
make your creases in such a way that they'll be in the right places
when the paper's dry.  For folding a bird base, this meant that the
diagonal folds from corner to corner of the paper had to be folded so
that they went accurately from corner to corner in a straight line,
but when you made the fold the two other points *didn't line up*.

That is, with your paper as at right,
wet and slightly off square, fold               a                     b
on a crease between c and b.  Unlike             ---------------------
what happens with a square, points              |                     |
c and d will NOT overlap evenly.                |                     |
Similarly, if you fold between e and f          |                     |
it is important that lines a-b and c-d          |                     |
lie on top of each other, but points          e |                     | f
a and c, and b and d, will not match            |                     |
up.                                             |                     |
                                                |                     |
This will make the center of the folds          |                     |
the center of the paper when it dries,           ---------------------
and thus all the other folds you make based     c                     d
on them will work out.  (At least I think
that's how it works out...I have to ponder it a bit more.)

Whatever the exact geometrical reasoning, it does work.  :)

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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 93 04:44:05 ADT
From: "Maarten.J.van.Gelder" <MAARTEN@rc.rug.nl>
Subject: Origami may be injuring

Folding a lot of paper in a short time may cause injuries indeed.

Wil Haarsma here in Holland has folded several hundreds of units to build
a temple (the model is in a Momotani book) together with some other people.
She was in a hurry and folded very fast. After that she came to our convention
with her arm in a mitella because she suffered a tennis elbow! Did you know
that you can get a tennis elbow also when knitting? Wil told me.

When folding units (about 500) for a castle (an adaptation of the Bluebeard
castle of Ed Sullivan) I had problems. I started folding about 30 units a
day, but after two days my fingers got hurt. Slowing down to 20 units a day
was enough to go on. But sharpening the first diagonal crease caused a blaze
on my thumb!

Folding the units for my arch took me a long time. They are folded from A4
typewriter paper. That is stiff and rough. When you fold more than about 8
units a day you get hurt on your fingertips. I prefer using only my bare
fingers when folding and not using aids. So your skin is wearing when folding
rough stuff. Folding 640 units from A4 paper plus 350 sheets of Origami paper
for flowers and leaves took me half a year.

So if you use something else than your fingertips to sharpen the creases you
may fold more without hurting your fingers. But still there is a possibility
to get a tennis elbow or pain in your wrists.

Maarten van Gelder                   M.J.van.Gelder@RC.RUG.NL
Lichtboei 210                        Rekencentrum Rijksuniversiteit RuG
9732 JK  Groningen                   Groningen
Holland                              Holland





Date: Tue, 22 Jun 93 05:51:31 ADT
From: "Maarten.J.van.Gelder" <MAARTEN@rc.rug.nl>
Subject: Convention

Hello OrigaMailers,

Here some comments on the convention in New York:

I want to correct Thom Hulls message about the Tyrannosaurus Rex. In folding
the segments 7 nationalities took part: Canada, USA, Mexico, Japan, England,
Italy and Holland. Toshi Aoyagi set this up. He lives in Canada Toronto, but
said to be the Japanese in the folding group. I like this kind of activity
very much. Just informal but running. Besides: the model is a very good one.

I took two classes on Saturday.
First Robert Lang on designing models. Because I have designed several models
myself I didn't know if I would learn something new from him. But I did! As
Thom already said he showed a way to find a base figure from the measures of
the body, legs, antenae etcetera. At least you can find a base, but it is not
said you can fold it.
At the end of the class Robert asked for an animal to try and fold. Someone
suggested a kiwi (bird). After sketching the animal and making estimates of
the dimensions of the body, beak and legs (the kiwi has no wings!) he came up
with a base. And indeed he made a fairly realistic kiwi of it! In about a
quarter of an hour!
In the other class we learned how to make a fish skeleton from several
segments. It is a nice model.

On Sunday afternoon I taught a waterlilly and a caterpillar. Both are my
design. I will put the diagrams (PostScript files) in the archives soon.

I enjoyed the convention very much. Meeting several of you and connecting
real faces to names in messages. Folding in classes but also at the dinner
table and other informal places.

Maarten van Gelder                   M.J.van.Gelder@RC.RUG.NL
Lichtboei 210                        Rekencentrum Rijksuniversiteit RuG
9732 JK  Groningen                   Groningen
Holland                              Holland





Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1993 06:00:26 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Alan K.-C. Tai" <akctai@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Kit Kat ad origami

Hello,

I remember seeing a TV ad quite a while ago for the Kit Kat candy
bar (I think).  In it they showed origami models.  The two that I
remember the most was the kangaroo and the winged dragon.  Does
anyone know where I could get plans to fold these two models?

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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 93 06:23:28 ADT
From: "Maarten.J.van.Gelder" <MAARTEN@rc.rug.nl>
Subject: Folding on strange places

After the convention Michael Shall showed a small group around in New York.
Visiting the Liberty Statue takes a lot of time. Going up the staircase
inside the Statue is very slow, and somebody had paper... We folded an
alligator (action model) and also cranes. Behind us in the line were children
from a school class to which we gave the models.

After folding these models I taught two people my waterlilly: walking slowly
up the steps and indeed folding in the air. It was difficult to fold this
complex model in the half dark, but we succeeded.

For me this was the strangest place to fold: sometimes light, sometimes dark,
no tables (I am not used to fold in the air), walking slowly.

Maarten van Gelder                   M.J.van.Gelder@RC.RUG.NL
Lichtboei 210                        Rekencentrum Rijksuniversiteit RuG
9732 JK  Groningen                   Groningen
Holland                              Holland





Date: Wed, 23 Jun 93 13:34:06 ADT
From: storm@nas.nasa.gov (Steve Storm)
Subject: Strange places to be doing that.

I am not an advanced folder, but I do a few models and have found a few
strange places to fold and leave origami.  My latest trick was at the
last InterOp in San Francisco.  For those whe are unaware, InterOp is a
major trade show and conference for the field of computer networking.  I'm
in that field, so I get to go to the lectures and look at the trade show and
all the high tech toys and wonders.  During the long dry lectures, I sometimes
fold to keep from fidgeting or falling asleep.  Sometimes I have a packet
of paper; sometimes I have to improvise.  At that time I had been interested
in doing the connected crane folds I had seen in one or two books.  Since
networking is about connectedness, it seemed somehow appropriate.  So I
took out one of the pages of the glossy paper conference guide, (It was one
of the pages of the alphabetical list of speakers.) and made a square, (no
scissors, careful tearing) and went for the 4 cranes in a circle model.  I
came close.  One of the cranes was coming out terrible.  Then one of the wing
to wing connections broke.  I salvaged it into three cranes in a row.  I tried
again.  This time I got it.  Mind you, this has been over two solid days of
lecture with the people next to me staring every so often.  I was riding a
commuter train into San Francisco and I knew I'd never get these models home
safe to show my wife and brag about.  What could I do?  I snuck into this room
marked "VIP LOUNGE" and left them on a couple of the coffee tables there.
Maybe someone figured it out that the line of three was an ethernet and the
circle of four was a token ring.  Maybe not.  But it was the neatest origami
I had ever folded, and the strangest place I had found to leave my models.

-storm

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 93 17:49:07 ADT
From: Joseph Wu <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Re:Strange places to be doing that.

storm@smaug.nas.nasa.gov wrote about folding connected crane models out of
a page from a conference guide at a computer networking conference. This
reminded me of two different folding incidents I had.

The first of these was when I folded a rhinoceros (Kasahara's from _Origami_
_for_the_Connoisseur_) out of a flyer that I was handed at the first game
between the Vancouver Canucks and the LA Kings in this year's Stanley Cup.
It made for a good way to get through the breaks between the periods.

The second one happened yesterday. I went to a local Japanese restaurant
and was surprised (and pleased) to find that they had put on display one of
the New Year's cranes (I think it's by Chino, found in Kasahara's _Origami_
_Omnibus_) that I had left there with my tip about a month back. The next
time I visit, I'm to teach the owner how to make it. 8)

Joseph Wu    <jwu@cs.ubc.ca>   | Witty quote is now back to the
Master's Candidate             |   drawing board due to squeamish
University of British Columbia |   readers. Any suggestions?





Date: Wed, 23 Jun 93 21:55:09 ADT
From: Comet <COMET@us.oracle.com>
Subject: surprised (and pleased) to find

Joseph Wu <jwu@cs.ubc.ca> on JUN-23-93 13:44:01 sent mail including:

> I went to a local Japanese restaurant and was surprised (and pleased) to find
> that they had put on display one of the New Year's cranes (I think it's by
> Chino, found in Kasahara's _Origami_ _Omnibus_) that I had left there with my
> tip about a month back.

Yesterday, I went to the Ben & Jerry's in San Francisco at Haight/Ashbury,
and was pleasantly surprised to see the origami tsuru I had folded a month ago
hanging from the ceiling.  It was difficult folding the diffraction-patterned
mylar sheet; it kept wanting to unfold.  But it's quite flashy!  =D

Comet
437 Wessex Way
Belmont, CA  94002-2757





Date: Thu, 24 Jun 93 06:19:48 ADT
From: Agnes Tomorrow <atom@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: folding mylar

On Wed, 23 Jun 1993, Comet wrote:

> ...  It was difficult folding the diffraction-patterned
> mylar sheet; it kept wanting to unfold.  But it's quite flashy!  =D

 Mylar comes in such wonderful patterns, it's really tempting to
try one's favorite models in it--I've managed to overcome the 'wanting to
unfold' by doing a few steps, pressing the model in a phone book (or any
heavy book) for a few hours, taking it out and doing a few more steps,
etc.  It takes a while, but at least the finished piece tends to stay the
way I folded it for more than five minutes!  Has anyone else found a
better way to do this?
 The problem I don't have a solution to, is: after two or more
folds, the pretty flashy stuff tends to (crack? rub off?
fatigue?)--anyhow, it just leaves dull edges on any sort of complicated
work.  Any suggestions to counter this?  ('Cause I really like the result,
except for the dull-edged creases and points!)

Agnes Tomorrow
atom@u.washington.edu





Date: Thu, 24 Jun 93 10:40:37 ADT
From: Paco Ojeda_Gonzalez <ffoogg@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu>
Subject: Strange places to fold

Mail*Link(r) SMTP               Strange places to fold
I remember once sitting with some friends at a Thai restaurant for lunch. And
while we waited for our meals to arrive, I started folding napkins just to help
the time pass. Eventually I noticed a man sitting by himself at the other end
of the restaurant, staring at me. Finally, he approached me and introduced
himself as the manager. He was fascinated by what I was doing! He then
proceeded to attempt to fold the napkings along with me (and failed miserably,
unfortunately...!!).

We all ended up with a free lunch that day, courtesy of a curious manager.

Paco





Date: Thu, 24 Jun 93 12:56:32 ADT
From: SPARKER@U.WASHINGTON.EDU
Subject: Re: Strange places to fold

Never managed to get any free meals from origami...

At the last 2 Lollapalooza's we've spent most of the time folding and getting
interesting looks from all the folks who there for the music.  This year, one
of the Northern Exposure crew members came over and asked about what we were
doing.  He mentioned that a show he had worked had an episode with 1000 cranes
that they folded for a wedding and strung them from the ceiling.  It was then
I figured out he was talking about Northern Exposure (filmed in Roslyn, WA, not
far from George, WA, which is where Lolla was this year here).

I've also spent the last 2 Pacific NW SAS Users Group meetings folding cranes
in the dark.

I'm surprised (and pleased) that I haven't experienced any stiffness or pain
from folding all day, sitting in an odd position.

Sue





Date: Thu, 24 Jun 93 16:47:26 ADT
From: Dan Meyer <dmeyer@nas.edu>
Subject: Mathematical Crossroads

I am working on a project for the Mathematical Sciences Education Board (MSEB)
of the National Resource Council (NRC) called Mathematical Crossroads.  The
purpose of the project is to illustrate the wide relevence of mathematics and
mathemacal skills in everday life.  I am working to compile a database of such
examples.

One of the four areas is Aesthetic Life (along with Work, Citizen and Daily
Life).  I have been a long time fan of Origami, and believe there it represents
a great opportunity for the types of examples I am looking for.  For instance,
I was forwarded a recent origami interest group note written by Ann LaVin on
folding with wet paper.  It was a beautiful illustration of transformations.

I would be interested in any ideas, big or small, that anyone might have.
Please contact me directly:

Dan Meyer
Mathematical Sciences Education Board
National Research Council
HA 476
2001 Wisconsin Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20007

dmeyer@nas.edu
(202) 334-3098

Thank you very much.

Dan Meyer





Date: Thu, 24 Jun 93 22:08:11 ADT
From: Cynthia Pettit <pettit@cs.unc.edu>
Subject: Re: surprised (and pleased) to find

> Yesterday, I went to the Ben & Jerry's in San Francisco at Height/Ashbury,
> and was pleasantly surprised to see the origami tsuru I had folded a month ago
> hanging from the ceiling.  It was difficult folding the diffraction-patterned
> mylar sheet; it kept wanting to unfold.  But it's quite flashy!  =D

I folded a "life-sized" lobster [from 3'X3' paper] and it had a happy
home at the local bake shop [Columbia St. Bakery in Chapel Hill NC,
USA].  It was loved until it became partially shreded -- a long and
happy Velveteen-Rabbit-like life. :)

Cyn

 "It's not about driving down rt 66 and stopping at the Holiday Inn!
  It's about *adventure*!!"
    ---Richard P Feynman





Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 00:59:01 ADT
From: Andrew Healey <andrew@qimr.edu.au>
Subject: lost pet spider

Hi everyone,
   It's been fascinating to read your postings...I haven't been into
folding a lot in recent years, but am just starting to get going again
as my kids are getting quite facile with the fingers. I began origami at
about seven years, so I know what fun they can get from creating. When I
was about nine, I was lucky enough to be asked to make a series of birds
for a Christmas window display at the local haberdashery.
   But my most spectacular moment came in the aftermath of a car accident.
As I recuperated at home, out came the paper and the mischief that lurked
in the back of a bored mind. I fashioned a spider which approximated our
famed venomous 'funnel-web' in size, painted it black, and added some beady
eyes of aluminium foil rolled into balls, and a long cotton thread.
I was armed with this during my next trip to the doctor. As he peeled the
layers of old bandage off my ankle, he bent down real close for a better
look! I've always savoured my moment of triumph, as the spider whisked
past his face and he jumped back several paces!
  My reason for recalling this, is that I no longer have the plans to the
spider fold. I think it originated from one of the books by Robert Harbin
in the sixties, but am not sure which title. It used a series of cuts to
make the legs.
  For sentimental value, if anyone out there has this information, I'd
appreciate hearing from you.

Bye for now
Andy

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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 11:33:06 ADT
From: anselmo@thermsa.eng.sunysb.edu (Andrew P. Anselmo)
Subject: Re: origami in strange places...

I've folded a few things in the lobby of a company called Ferrofluidics,
in Nashua, New Hampshire (Montrol's shark, is the centerpiece).
I left them at the front desk a year ago, and they are still there!  The company
deals with the Japanese a lot, maybe they thought it would be a nice touch.

I've also folded on airplane flights; the highlight of my travels was when
I had four flight attendants standing around me on final approach to Chicago,
asking for various models, and watching me fold as fast as I could (Engel`s
heart with arrow through it).  My doctoral advisor, sitting a few rows back,
was quite shocked.  One of the attendants said, "white, red, or champagne?"
I asked for white (thinking they would reward me with a small glass of wine),
and they came back with an entire *bottle*.

-A.





Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 12:01:32 ADT
From: Paco Ojeda_Gonzalez <ffoogg@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu>
Subject: Strange Origami Occurrences

Mail*Link(r) SMTP               Strange Origami Occurrences
I was at a Japanese restaurant for lunch the other day and I was wearing my
silk origami tie. It's a maroon tie covered with cranes of different sizes and
colors. I picked it up at the Boston Museum of Fine Arts. And I'm convinced
that we got a table sooner than not because the host noticed my tie and smiled
at me!

Paco





Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 13:46:13 ADT
From: Agnes Tomorrow <atom@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: surprised (and pleased) to find

 I vacation frequently in Ashland, Oregon (home of the Oregon
Shakespeare Festival), and on Main Street is a book store called The Blue
Dragon.  I happened to receive a gift wrapped in blue paper, and so I
decided to fold it up into a dragon.  I took it in to them, and they
immediately put it in their display window--and when I went to pay for the
books I'd found there, they just gave them to me!
 It seems origami is a karmic barter medium...

Agnes Tomorrow
atom@u.washington.edu





Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 16:17:14 ADT
From: Brad Blumenthal <brad@bert.eecs.uic.edu>
Subject: Another try ... and another... and another

There's a certain irony when I find I can't post to a list I founded.
But I think I've got the gatekeeper sorted out.  Sigh.  One more time....

As Maarten and others have pointed out, folding the same thing over
and over can certainly lead to repetitive stress syndrome-like
symptoms, as can any repetitive action.  However, according to an
expert on repetitive stress injury and carpel tunnel syndrome that
spoke at the University of Texas about three years ago (while I was a
grad student), one thing that helps such conditions is to engage in
some manual exercise that is different from what is causing the
discomfort.

Thus, for those of us who sometimes suffer at the keyboard, folding
origami can be good therapy, as long as we don't do the same model
over and over and over.  I've had pretty good experience with this on
occasion.

Playing a musical instrument can help too.  In any case, remember to
keep those wrists straight.

Take care,
brad





Date: Fri, 25 Jun 93 18:09:10 ADT
From: Brad Blumenthal <brad@bert.eecs.uic.edu>
Subject: Fun with folding

Ahhhhh.  I can finally post again.  Frabjous day, calooh, calay.

I find myself folding origami when I get irritated.  For me, it's a
great way to calm down, "the peace of paper" as it were.

I once folded a pig out of an American Express card application and
left it on the counter of an airline that was making life miserable.

I almost always fold a flower or small animal of some kind to hand to
flight attendants when they come around with the drinks.  Goddesses
know passengers usually make their lives miserable enough.

After having been kept waiting 45 minutes in a pub for a lunch that I
paid for and never got and catching a train with seconds to spare, I
was quite annoyed.  I sat down across from a Mom and daughter pair
that were eyeing me suspiciously until I took out my origami paper and
started folding a peacock and a kangaroo; then they started eyeing me
curiously.  Within about 10 minutes, I was feeling much better.

My favorite incident, though, was at a sushi bar in Cupertino,
California.  The place had an outdoor goldfish pond with some *big*
goldfish in it, so while I was sitting at the sushi bar waiting for my
order, I took out some gold foil and folded Montroll's goldfish (the
early one, not the bug-eyed job).  The woman next to me was a
Japanese-American who did some translating (voice-overs) for the
various network news shows.  She asked me if I was folding a crane,
and I told her what I was doing, and we chatted a bit about origami
and the Japanese and American culture.

When I put the model up on the bar, though, the sushi chef (who was
Japanese) eyed it with some surprise and what looked like a little
annoyance.  To someone raised in a culture where "the nail that sticks
out gets hammered down," an American folding untraditional origami may
not be quite as clever as I'd hoped.  He threw up his hands in mock
surprise and exclaimed, "Oh!  A bunny rabbit!"  I immediately smiled
enthusiastically and said, "Yes!  That's right!"  Apparently, that was
the right thing to say, because he gave me a couple of extras at no
charge.

My least favorite incident was when a toy store (that shall remain
nameless) asked me to do an origami workshop with them.  I folded some
samples and brought in some of my better saved folds to help with the
advertising.  About a month later, after postponing the workshop
twice, I was told that all of my models (including three or four money
folds and a kusudama ball) had been "lost."  Poof.  Hasta la nunca.
Bummer there, but I guess it happens.

Hmmm.  That remids me...it's time to do another kusudama, and maybe
I'll get back to work on my 1000 cranes this weekend (I'm up around
650 and holding).

Take care,
brad





Date: Sat, 26 Jun 93 20:04:12 ADT
From: Bob Nienhuis <IBFIRBN@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>
Subject: Strange Origami Occurrences

Strange Origami Occurrences

A few years ago I was sitting at the counter in a coffee shop in
downtown Los Angeles. I folded a dollar bill figure to leave as
a tip for the very pretty Japanese waitress. I think I did
Kasahara's elephant. I noticed a guy sitting few stools down
watching intently. Suddenly he whipped out a piece of paper and
folded a flower which he proceeded to present to the waitress!
I countered with my own original dollar bill butterfly and my
bill pig.

He looked intently at my creations, got up and went out to his
car. He returned shortly with a packet of origami paper and
proceeded to fold a two piece tarantula!

I conceded defeat, but kept his tarantula model, took it home,
unfolded it and figured out how to do it! So my defeat didn't
sting too badly.

Unfortunately, I never got the guy's name so I don't know who
to attribute the model to, but I still have fun making it,
particularly at Holloween.

Bob Nienhuis                                        :   <\........>
IBFIRBN@mvs.oac.ucla.edu  (Internet)                :  Reality-ometer
bob.nienhuis@f129.n102.z1.calcom.socal.com (Fidonet): Hmmph!  Thought so...





Date: Sun, 27 Jun 93 20:29:58 ADT
From: ACPQUINN@MIDD.BITNET
Subject: Re: origami in strange places...

I must say that, as a known folder in my area, I find it difficult to play
poker.  When I am dealt a bad hand, I can say "I fold," but everyone already
knows that...

Anyway, RE: origami in strange places:

        Of course, like many other folders, when I am in possession of a crisp
bill that I intend to leave as a tip, I will fold it into something...
For example:
-There is a billfold called "inflation" that takes a dollar bill and, using
landmarks on the bill, shrinks it down to a bill of the same proportions but a
different size.  GW is still there in all his glory, however.  I only leave
this at restaurants that charge too much for average food.
-For restaurants that serve portions that are much too large, I will leave an
origami pig.
-for a combination of the two, a billfold piggybank, complete with quarter
stuck in the back.
-anywhere else, I will leave a star or some such pleasing item...

        so that's my contribution...

                --*ACPQ*--





Date: Sun, 27 Jun 93 20:43:00 ADT
From: ACPQUINN@MIDD.BITNET
Subject: RE:surprised&pleased...

This morning I went to a local strawberry farm to pick (what else)strawberries!
   As we left, I pulled an almost-finished Rae Cooker strawberry (10" paper) fro
   m
my pocket.  I blew it up, shrugged, and handed it to the girl behind the
counter.  She thanked me, and, as I walked out to the car, the owner of the farm
   ran out and asked me if this was origami... Of course, I was pleased to find
that someone around town that I didn't know had actually heard of origami...
Anyway, the strawb is now hanging from their ceiling... The owner actually made
   me an offer to sell the little strawbs, but I'm still thinking about that one

Hey, as a teenager with no constant source of income, I might just try it!

        --*ACPQ*--





Date: Sun, 27 Jun 93 20:49:28 ADT
From: ACPQUINN@MIDD.BITNET
Subject: Re: lost pet spider

I like your sense of humor... sort of akin to going to a dentist's office that
has a crowded waiting room, going in for your appointment, grabbing the drill,
starting it, and screaming as loud as you can... If you try this, I hope your
dentist has a good sense of humor too.\

Anyway, the only incised spider I know of is in Eric Kenneway's _Complete
Origami_.  It's a rather flat model, with nice long legs, but I don't think
it would fool me...  maybe it would...  But the book is quite readily available
at finer bookstores across the nation, and easily ordered too...
Hope I was of some help...

        --*ACPQ*--





Date: Wed, 30 Jun 93 06:13:55 ADT
From: "Andrea(s) Sterbini" <andrea@dsi-encore.ing.uniroma1.it>
Subject: Re: folding mylar

>
>
> On Wed, 23 Jun 1993, Comet wrote:
>
> > ...  It was difficult folding the diffraction-patterned
> > mylar sheet; it kept wanting to unfold.  But it's quite flashy!  =D
>
>  Mylar comes in such wonderful patterns, it's really tempting to
> try one's favorite models in it--I've managed to overcome the 'wanting to
> unfold' by doing a few steps, pressing the model in a phone book (or any
> heavy book) for a few hours, taking it out and doing a few more steps,
> etc.  It takes a while, but at least the finished piece tends to stay the
> way I folded it for more than five minutes!  Has anyone else found a
> better way to do this?
>  The problem I don't have a solution to, is: after two or more
> folds, the pretty flashy stuff tends to (crack? rub off?
> fatigue?)--anyhow, it just leaves dull edges on any sort of complicated
> work.  Any suggestions to counter this?  ('Cause I really like the result,
> except for the dull-edged creases and points!)
>
> Agnes Tomorrow
> atom@u.washington.edu
>
>
Have you tried to heat the mylar sheet with hot water before folding and then
to cool it with cool water?

This works fine with any plastic sheet, the sheet doesnt crack .....

Please, as I dont have any mylar sheet, let me know if this works.

Andrea





Date: Wed, 30 Jun 93 13:41:42 ADT
From: Comet <COMET@us.oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Where does one buy mylar?

Paco Ojeda_Gonzalez asked on JUN-30-93 07:42:23, "Where does one buy mylar?"

I find mylar in a variety of colors and patterns at Art Supply stores,
and also in party-supply stores.  It is often sold as a type of gift-wrap.

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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 93 13:19:02 ADT
From: base00!jhc@codas.attmail.com
Subject:

Hello!  I'm new to the list and pretty new to origami.
My personal info:
Javier Cubero
940 Douglas Ave, #210
Altamonte Springs, FL. 32714  (That's in Orlando - Home of Disney)

e-mail: base00!jhc@codas.attmail.com

I first got into the origami thing due to a *gorgeous* dragon a friend of
mine had.  I took it apart and figured it out, and found I really enjoyed
doing origami.  I've been doing it since, but consider myself a novice.

I *would* like some help on the caterpillar (which I downloaded).  I do
fine up to unfolding the head into a triangle, and I can't seem to get
the hidden folds right.  The diagram doesn't seem clear enough for me to
figure out where things go behind the triangle.  Any help would be
appreciated.

Also, is anybody on this list from my area?  I'd love to spend face time
with someone who can *show* me how it should be done!





Date: Tue, 13 Jul 93 11:44:04 ADT
From: andataco!vann@UCSD.EDU (V'Ann Cornelius)
Subject: Re: folding mylar

On folding mylar...  I asked around about mylar.  If anyone knows chemisty,
perhaps they can add or correct the next comment.  The drift of the info
given to me about mylar is that the important thing to the makers of mylar
is stability.  One person mentioned something about the effort needed to
get polymers to bond at a molecular level requires heat to glassification.
The implication suggested that to reverse the stabilizing to enable folding
would require reheating to glassification.  Someone also mentioned the
presence of carbon atoms that support the polymer. That comment was followed
by a shrug saying of course if you can convince the polymer to share one
carbon in the place of two you will have a fold.
I know nothing about this except what I heard.  I may not have heard it right.
Does this make sense?
-v'ann-                             1828 Dora Drive
                                    Cardiff-by-the-Sea, CA 92007
vann@andataco.com                   (619) 753-9623





Date: Tue, 13 Jul 93 14:48:21 ADT
From: Alan "K.-C." Tai <akctai@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Subject: Kit Kat ad origami

Hello,

I remember seeing a TV ad quite a while ago for the Kit Kat candy
bar (I think).  In it they showed origami models.  The two that I
remember the most was the kangaroo and the winged dragon.  Does
anyone know where I could get plans to fold these two models?

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 93 15:10:00 ADT
From: lavin@Athena.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Kit Kat ad origami

The guy who folded the dragon for the Kit Kat ad had a display of the
dragon at last year's ('92) New York Convention.  Unfortunately, I do
not remember his name.  Maybe someone else does?

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lavin@mit.edu                    | "Because it's a nice day," said Pooh.
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(617) 253-0115                   | "Why ruin it?" he said.





Date: Tue, 13 Jul 93 15:35:36 ADT
From: base00!jhc@codas.attmail.com
Subject: Re: Kit Kat ad origami

Well, I didn't see the Kit-Kat ad, but I can make some suggestions.
As far as a Kangaroo:
  John Montroll, _Animal_Origami_for_the_Enthusiast_
                (ISBN 0-486-24792-9 by Dover)
  Robert Lang,  _The_Complete_Book_of_Origami_ (ISBN 0-486-24792-9 by Dover )
  Peter Engel, _Folding_the_Universe_ (ISBN 0-394-75751-3 by Vintage Books)
  Note that Engel's kangaroo has a Joey in its pouch!

For a dragon, I make a winged dragon using a squashed bird base, but don't
have it diagrammed.  There's a book titled something like Mythical Origami
at my local Book Stop, which has that version in it.  I'll stop by and get
the exact name this evening, and post it here tomorrow.

Hope that helps!

-- Javier

 + jhc%base00@codas.attmail.com     +  AT&T                               +
 + Javier Cubero                    +  Orlando, Florida                   +





Date: Wed, 14 Jul 93 01:12:59 ADT
From: andataco!vann@UCSD.EDU (V'Ann Cornelius)
Subject: Re: Kit Kat ad origami

The origami step folds for the animation were folded by
Toshi Aoyagi of Toronto. I'll indicate his address separately to
people who are interested.
-v'ann-                             1828 Dora Drive
                                    Cardiff-by-the-Sea, CA 92007
vann@andataco.com                   (619) 753-9623
