




Date: Sat, 31 Mar 90 11:51:56 EST
From: cs00elm@unccvax.uncc.edu (e. morgan)

Welcome to the group , Robin!

You have been folding for a much longer time than anybody I know.
And it is nice to know you found a use for the computer.

What do you thinque of a group effort by the "electronic oriamians"
(my term) to create a modular work?  We would need an organizer,
someone to put the work together, and someone to take the model
to the convention.  Do I see/hear any volunteers?

Eric Lease Morgan





Date: Wed, 4 Apr 90 21:25:40 EDT
From: cs00elm@unccvax.uncc.edu (e. morgan)
Subject: Origami: art or craft?

  April 4, 1990

  Let's start an aesthetic discussion.

  Do you thinque origami is an art or a craft?

  For the most part, I thinque origami is a craft and
not an art.  Let me explain myself.  When I do origami I
usually begin with instructions from a book.  I examine
the instructions and try my best to *duplicate* the
model. After I practice the model a few times I may
modify a fold here or there and then I might call it my
own.  This method of creating origami, in my opinion, is
a craft. (Compare this to the things you see at craft
shows. How much of that is art? How many of those people
are artists?)

  I believe origami becomes an art when the folder
creates something totally new.  His/her creation is
*original*. The art of origami is the ability to take
the experiences of others and create something
different. Take for example the skills of a person like
Montrol.  Apparently he is able to thinque of a shape
and create a paper representation. This, in my opinion,
is the true origamian.

  You may ask "How original does my model have to be in
order to be art?" I don't know the answer to that.
There is a *very* fine line between an art and a craft.

  I beleive that there is no clear cut answer to the
question "Is origami an art or a craft?", but it is
interesting to discuss.

  What do you thinque?

  Eric Lease Morgan





Date: Thu Apr 5 07:56:08 1990
From: mskelton@wrdis01.af.mil (Skelton)
Subject: art or craft ?

i think origami weaves in and out of art, craft and mathematics. iv'e seen
books on origami which contain geometric equations to derive or create a
desired effect, and in fact they were quite complicated. there can be much
more to following instructions or experimenting to get a desired effect.
according to these books you can actually derive a new design by first
creating a model mathematically.





Date: Thu, 5 Apr 90 11:24:56 -0700
From: storm@smaug.nas.nasa.gov (Steve Storm)

Craft or art?  An interesting question.  The original
post had a comment about a "fine line between art and
craft".  I would have to disagree.  There is a broad,
fuzzy, vague and grey line between art and craft.  I
agree that copying a fold from a book is a craft, a
rather pleasing and beautiful craft at that.  But, the
first time you modify a fold or try out an unusual paper,
you begin to cross into that boundary towards artist.  On
the other end of the scale, the person that creates a
new fold is definitely an artist.  I find parallels to
my wife's interest in needlework.  The creator of a
needlework pattern is an artist.  The one wielding the
needle is a craftsman.  For those who creatively interpret
the patterns, I offer the middle ground word, artisan.

What some people do with their artistic endeavors is mere
craftmanship.  What some people do with their craft is
sheer art.  In between are people like you and me, hopefully
having fun while doing what we can.

-storm

As we endure storms,     |  storm@smaug.nas.nasa.gov
So we receive rainbows.  |  (415) 604-4334





Date: Fri, 6 Apr 90 18:00:49 EDT
From: cs00elm@unccvax.uncc.edu (e. morgan)
Subject: Re:  art or craft ?

The idea of mathematics in oriami interesting!  Although
I have never tried to create an origami model by first
designing it mathematically I am sure it can be done.

I own a book on the subject of mathematics and origami.
I bought it through the Friends of the Origami Society,
but I don't remember its title.  I thinque it was written
by an East Indian.  Among other things, this book tries to
prove the Pythagorean Theorem with origami.

What we are saying is origami can be percieved as an
interdisciplinary subject.  This is something I have been
thinquing for a long time.  I have coined the word
"arscience" to represent my idea.

"Arscience" (pronounced R-see-ants) is obviously a
concantination of "art" and "science".  Arscience describes
activities that are both artistic and scientific. In this case,
origami is arscient.  I believe astronomy is arscient.  In
fact, most any subject can be arscient.  I use arscience
(the perspectives of artists and scientists) to make my
world a cosmos from an apparent chaos.

People are always saying origami can be used to teach
children.  It would have been quite off-the-wall if I was
taught geometry in 9th grade by folding paper.  I don't
thinque very many people would have approved.

Eric Lease Morgan





Date: Fri, 6 Apr 90 18:02:02 EDT
From: cs00elm@unccvax.uncc.edu (e. morgan)
Subject: Origami: art or craft?

I thinque the comparison of origami to needlework is a
good one. There are aspects of art and craft in both
endevours.

I aspire to be the origami artist, but I find it *very*
difficult.  I can be an artist when it comes to music.  I can
be an artist when it comes to painting.  But I have a real
difficulty creating "artistic" origami models.  Do y'all have
this difficulty too?  Why can't I create new folds?  Why
do my new folds (when I do make them) look like
accordians?  Maybe my spacial perception is not as
advanced as my other perceptions.

I don't expect you to have the answers, but maybe you
could tell me how you thinque.

Eric Lease Morgan





Date:         Sat, 07 Apr 90 10:51:48 EST
From: COM.SHROUT@ukpr.uky.edu
Subject:      Art or craft?

Dear fellow paper folders,

     Well, I thought I'd just put my two cents in on the origami art or
craft debate.  I sort of look at origami the way the geishas did in
ancient Japan,  Origami is not so much an art or a craft, but an
entertaining and productive way to pass time.  If I'm just sitting
around and vegetating, I'll pick up a piece of paper and start to
fold.  It may not be as productive as reading or doing something else,
but in thirty or forty minutes, I at least have something beautiful
and perhaps even useful to show for my idleness.

     Anyway, I feel that origami is both an art and a craft, but
I use it primarily as an pass-time.

                                         Talk to yall later,

                                             Bill Shrout





Date: Mon, 9 Apr 90 12:30:48 EDT
From: actnyc!jeff@uunet.UU.NET (Jeffrey Poretsky)
Subject: my modular piece

Hi again,

	A quick correction.  Specifically to Eric Lease Morgan.
The modular works mentioned will be done by me, Jeff Poretsky.

Also, I love the idea of everyone doing modules.  A secondary thought to follow
that would be: Leave the model in the Home Office since I doubt that it could
be finished in time for the convention.

	Anyone interested in this model can e-mail me. I will respond
with a e-mail to each person describing quantity (please specify maximum)
and paper size (probably 2" square)  made into Sonobe modules.

Due to Passover I will have trouble responding to mail until April 18th.

Keep on folding.

 Jeff Poretsky              uunet!actnyc!jeff      jeff@actnyc.UUCP





Date: Mon, 16 Apr 90 09:17:44 EDT
From: cs00elm@unccvax.uncc.edu (e. morgan)
Subject: Re:  my modular piece

 At this time I do not think I will participate in a
modular origami work ... too much work to be done here.
Maybe next year we could plan better and create something.

I'm sorry I may have started something I cannot finishe
(I hate doing that), but this seems to be what I have done.

Jeff Poretsky, I hope your model comes out perfectly!

Eric Lease Morgan.





Date: Wed, 18 Apr 90 21:08:17 EDT
From: yacullo@topaz.rutgers.edu (Mike Yacullo)

hi folks!

i'm new on this group; my name's mike, and i'm a computer sci/philosophy
major at rutgers university.

i've been folding for about 9 or 10 years now.  when i was about 12, i had
to be flat on my back in the hospital for 2 weeks.  that's when i first
was given a very simple origami book...i've been in love with it ever since!

my favorite types of works are the detailed complex folds such as those done
by Engel and Montroll.  looking forward to hearing from the rest of you soon.
happy folding!

	mike
	yacullo@topaz.rutgers.edu





Date: Wed, 18 Apr 90 22:08:39 EDT
From: cs00elm@unccvax.uncc.edu (e. morgan)
Subject: Hello new member, Mike

 Hello Mike, glad to meet you.

 I am a computer science student as well and I am a
philosophy major as well.  "Let's talk Ockham's razor!" :-)

 In fact, I began origami as a project in an aesthetics class
I was studying sculpture as an art form and applied my
learning to origami.  My first book was _How_to_make_
origami_.

 You have joined us just after a short discussion on the topic
of origami and whether or not it is an art or a craft.  I
thinque the  consensious of the participating members of the
group thought that origami was both and art and a craft
depending on the time, effort and thought put into folding.

Welcome again.  Write often!

Eric Lease Morgan, Charlotte, NC





From: brad@cs.utexas.edu (blumenthal @ home with the armadillos)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 90 01:31:23 CDT
Subject: Long overdue replies

Boy, when it rains it pours.  I took off for two weeks of conference
hopping, and the origami list sees more activity in two weeks then it
usually gets in two months.  In all, I got six new subscription, one
unsubscribe, and seventeen messages that were just about origami.  I
should leave town more often.

The big news for me is that I'm going to the FOCA convention in NYC at
the end of April.  Between the generosity of the NYC-area FOCA members
who put people up in their homes, and my free round-trip on Midway
(for getting off of an airplane that was too heavy to fly -- which I
was more than happy to do :-), I managed to scrape it together.  If
anyone else from the list is going, let me know; I love putting
net-names and faces together.  When I talked to Michael Shall on the
phone, he mentioned that they sometimes have the reps from various
clubs stand up and say a word or two about what they're up to.  If any
of y'all have anything you think I should say, let me know.

To reply to some of the messages:

First off, there seems to be some confusion about who is sending what
to whom and exactly how this mailing list works.  In short, any mail
message that gets sent to origami@cs.utexas.edu gets echoed out to
everyone who is on the mailing list.  What happens is that each
incoming message automatically gets stripped of most of its mail
headers and re-mailed back out to the list.

As a result, what you'll generally see at the top of each message are
two sets of headers that look something like this:

>From brad Sat Mar 31 10:56:59 1990
<Mailer headers>
. From: brad (The Origami Mailing List)
<More mailer cruft>
. To: origami

. From jro@nowhere.cs.edu  Sun April 1 11:23:23 1990
. Date: Sun, 1 April 90 11:23:23 CDT
. From: jro@nowhere.cs.edu (J. Random Origamian)
. To: origami@cs.utexas.edu
. Subject: paper wads

The first group of headers is produced by the re-mailing.  Anytime you
see "The Origami Mailing List" in the header, you can ignore that
information.  The second set of headers is the important set that
tells you who the message is really from.  The way I have things set
up, using the reply option in your mailer is *supposed* to send mail
back to the origami mailing list.  If you want to say something
private to the person who sent the message, you can get the address
from the second set of headers.

To Mike Jenkins, who is getting married this summer and is planning on
decorating with origami:  why don't you tell us what models you want
and where we can send some.  I'd like to kick in two or three just for
grins.

To Jeffrey Poretsky: Thanks for the greetings from Mark Kennedy.
People, I'm beginning to think Mark is my patron saint.  Not only has
he done some great PR work for this list  (he spread the word at the
Home Office in NYC and in various newsletters.  Several subscribers
have mentioned hearing about the list from him), he has also passed my
number on to several folks down here.  As a result, we may have an
Austin origami group in the not-to-distant future.

To Stan and Robin Mendenhall and Don Shall: I assume someone up there
works at the U. Mich. comp center and is friendly to origamians.
Y'all can snarf the archives of this list (as can anyone) by ftp'ing
to cs.utexas.edu, logging in as anonymous, and getting the files
~ftp/tmp/origami.archive.*.  There are four of them up there now.  The
tmp directory gets cleaned out every now and then, so if you don't
find them, send me mail.  By the way, can we get periodic reports on
the doings of AAS4O (to quote Don Shall, that's the "Ann Arbor Society
4 Origami...AASO = AhSo!")?  Anyone else who is involved with a local
group please let us know what your gang is up to as well.

Is origami an art or a craft?  I'm not sure I'd glorify what I do with
the name "craft" even :-).  In my mind, Montroll is certainly an
artist.  I've seen packaged origami greeting cards (in San Francisco)
and origami earrings (in Seattle) for sale that I think qualified as
craft.  I tend more toward Bill Shrout's notion of origami as a way to
pass the time, though.

For me, origami is more often a performance than an art or craft.  I
sometimes refer to origami as throw-away art, and I think the reason
is that most of the time, I do origami to amuse myself or others with
the process more than the result.  For example, the other night, I
folded a crane out of the end of a fortune-cookie fortune.  It was a
lousy crane, but it was recognizable and it fit on the tip of my
little finger.  The folks I was eating with were much more amused by
the fact that I could work with something that small than by the end
result.  Another example is folding Montroll bugs to keep myself awake
during boring computer lectures.  More often than not, I just leave
them wherever I was sitting.

I'm getting to the point now where I can improvise on folds, but I
still haven't created anything completely original that I'm satisfied
with.  If I start a fold and can't remember all of the details, I can
usually fudge it (sort of like program debugging, I guess.  It's much
harder to debug a blank piece of paper).

Eric Morgan: If you're interested in the relation between origami and
math (and zen for that matter), I strongly recommend the introduction
to Peter Engel's book _Folding the Universe_.  Engel considers the kite
fold, the fish base, the bird base, and the frog base.  The same
pattern of creases is repeated 1, 2, 4, and 8 times respectively in
these bases.  It's definitely a worthwhile read.  So are some of the
exercises by Kasahara in _Origami Omnibus_.

A request to anyone who can help:  Has anyone gotten past step 11 on
the biplane in Robert Lang's _The Complete Book of Origami_?  I'm
stuck there and would appreciate any hints.

I guess that more or less clears out my mailbox.  More in a couple of
weeks when I get back from the convention.

Take care,
brad





Date: Thu, 19 Apr 90 10:18:54 EDT
From: Don_Shall@um.cc.umich.edu
Subject: O R I G A M I

Hi Brad (& digital pen-pals).  This is the second pack of messages from
the ori-bulletin-board.  Thanks!  As soon as I get help understanding
and accessing the archives, I will download & try to catch up.
	Tonight (3rd Thursday) is the Fifth Anniversary of AASO, and we may see
a new record of attendees (we would have to top 93!).  At least six
of us (from the core group I call "the Regulars") will be in NYC for
OriCon'90:  Sandy Toivonen, Robin Mendenhall, Laura Hayes, Bob Brill,
Judith Starks & yours truly.  I will report on our meeting later.
	Gotta get back to work, Best Wishes, Don.





Date:     Sun, 22 Apr 90 20:44 EST
From: TIM PIGOT <VY2366%BINGVAXA.BITNET@BINGVMC.CC.BINGHAMTON.EDU>
Subject:  Larry's introduction

Hello origamians!
My name is Larry Biederman, and I've been addicted to origami for the past
twelve years.  I am a freshman at the State University of New York at
Binghamton, where I am looking at a possible major in biology or biochemistry.

I am from Livingston, New Jersey.  I have always enjoyed teaching origami to
others.  It started in elementary school with presentations to my classes and
continued into high school with yearly presentations at a local private school a
nd
and with a few summers at a day camp.

This idea of an origami computer network seems really cool.  I hope I'll have
time to send stuff often.





Date: Tue, 24 Apr 90 15:58:58 EDT
From: elsa@GANDALF.LL.MIT.EDU (Elsa Chen)
Subject: Greetings!

Hi! I'm Elsa, and I'm new to this list. A friendly person here at
Lincoln Lab showed me that this list existed, and it looks really
cool! My mom first got me interested in origami (simple figures from
books in Japanese - she once translated a book from Japanese to
Chinese). Later in high school, Cara Lin Bridgman introduced me to
more complicated figures from the likes of Harbin and Montoya. At MIT,
Anne LaVin's IAP classes renewed my interest. (I am glad to see Anne
is on this list. Cara Lin, if you are out there, special greetings.
It's been a long, crazy time.) I am currently trying to get to the
convention in New York this weekend. I sent off for information from
FOCA last week, and the letter arrived yesterday. I've looked into a
hotel room, flying down, and taking the train back. All these I intend
to confirm tonight. I'm bringing a non-folding volunteer, also. (I
take it those are useful.) If my plans work out, I look forward to
meeting folk at OriCon this year.

						Elsa Chen
						elsa@gandalf.ll.mit.edu
						elsa@athena.mit.edu
						72 Nichols Avenue
						Watertown, MA 02172
						h:(617)924-2261
						w:(617)981-3102





From: elsa@GANDALF.LL.MIT.EDU (Elsa Chen)
Date: 26 Apr 90
Subject: OriCon

I'm still working on the logistics of getting us to the con. Transport
to and from seems to be arranged. (to: Trump or Pan Am shuttle,
from:Amtrak) However, I'm still looking for a place for my friend and
me to stay Friday and Saturday nights. We've been calling Michael
Shall and leaving messages on his machine, since the Home Office said
he was in charge of Hospitality and might have some ideas. Both the
Esplanade and Excelsior Hotels were full, and the Milburn (recommended
by one of the others) is full Friday night and might be full Saturday
night by the time we hear from Mr. Shall. (I hope not.) If anyone has
any advice or suggestions, PLEASE CALL ASAP. my phone numbers are:
h:(617)924-2261 [the only one here that accepts collect calls, but if
you call any number and tell me your number, I can call you back if
you want to save yourself some phone money] and w:(617)981-3102. My
friend (Jim Roberts) can be reached at w:(617)969-0051 or -0050 or
-8470, ext. 258 or ext.257. (He has voice mail there, if that helps. I
HATE answering machines.) We are looking for something reasonably
close to the Con, in an area that won't make my friend TOO paranoid.
He's something of a NewYorkophobe because a friend of his at Barnard
once took him on a subway ride through Harlem at night. (I think the
New York cabbies will like him.  $$$ :-) We're quite willing to bring
sleeping bags, if someone tells us that they still have crash space.
We're kinda used to this concept; both of us go to science fiction
cons. In any case, we do plan to show up at this OriCon, just gotta
work out a few bugs first....

						Elsa





Date: Thu, 3 May 90 07:23:09 EDT
From: mwj@icc.com (Mike Jenkins)
Subject: Origami News

Brad,

Hello and sorry about my lack of response to the net.  Well I now own a house
and will be in debt for years to come (but loving it).  So one of my dist-
ractions is gone and I can try to pick up my correspondence to this group.
Thanks for the information on O.I.L., it is quite interesting.  In the last FOCA
newsletter I saw an article about the "Thousand Crane Club".  It said to send
$5.00 for a booklet about the club, why it was established and a little story
about Sadako (the girl who died from radiation from the bomb in Hiroshima).
It also says to send $5.00 to get a picture of the peace monument that they had
built in honor of her.   So I rushed out the money and I got the booklet and the
picture yesterday.  For those interested in her story and those interested in
what the Thousand Crane Club is all about I highly recommend getting these
items.  As I mentioned before I am getting married in August and plan to use
origami folds as table center pieces.  I am considering using the crane and then
sinking the back and putting small planters with flowers in them.
Anyone have any ideas?

Michael W. Jenkins          Intercomputer Communications Corp.
Software Engineer           8230 Montgomery Road, Cincinnati, OH  45236
Micro/Mini Products         (513) 745-0500 * FAX (513) 745-0327
                            DDN: mwj@ICC.COM  UUCP: ...!ukma!spca6!icc!mwj





Date: Thu, 03 May 90 21:52:57 EDT
From: Anne R. LaVin <lavin@ATHENA.MIT.EDU>

on Michael W. Jenkins' mail (origami for his wedding):
>I am considering using the crane and then
>sinking the back and putting small planters with flowers in them.
>Anyone have any ideas?

There's a nice "crane-shaped recepticle" in one of my books...it's one
of the small paperback origami books by a japanese author, I can't
remember his name.  Todai, maybe?  It looks basically like a normal
crane, except the center is built sunk (I can't explain it any better,
it's been a while since I've folded it) It might be easier than trying
to sink the backs of regular cranes.  I can look up the book at home,
or, if you don't have it, I can send the plans.

And how was the convention, folks?  I wanted to go, but had family
visiting that weekend...

Anne LaVin
MIT Project Athena
lavin@athena.mit.edu





Date: Sat, 5 May 90 19:06:32 PDT
From: andataco!vann@ucsd.edu (V'Ann Cornelius)
Subject: intro from v'ann

Hello, Paperfolders,
My name is V'Ann Cornelius. I live in Cardiff-by-the-Sea,
California with my husband and two boys. My husband has
been working with unix hardware and software for 20+ years.
Our boys are 19 and 20. Our twenty year old has decided to
join the army and will leave home in July.

I began folding as a teenager when I found a book that showed
how to fold polyhedra with one piece of paper. My interest
ebbed and flowed until I bought Eric Kenneway's book, COMPLETE
ORIGAMI. In his book was a list of organizations. By writing
to them, I delighted in finding other folders.

Avenues for money are my job at Fujitsu Customer Service, and
a job as paperfolding consultant to public schools. Before that
I managing a library and computer lab for a public school for
eight years.

When folding, there are two concepts that I seem to rotate
around. One is something with practical value (like containers).
The other is the math that gives a person the power to predict
the size of paper needed to make an object of a given size.

The other way I like to participate with folders is by producing
the WEST COAST ORIGAMI PROCEEDINGS.  Working with people to make
the newsletter provides an arena for communication that I enjoy.

V'Ann Cornelius                    vann%andataco.uucp@ucsd.edu
Paperfolding Arts
1828 Dora Drive
Cardiff-by-the-Sea, CA 92007





Date: Sun, 6 May 90 10:40:19 EDT
From: cs00elm@unccvax.uncc.edu (e. morgan)
Subject: Re:  intro from v'ann

Welcome V'ann!  I am a librarian myself.  Did you enjoy being a librarian?

Eric Lease Morgan     cs00elm@unccvax





Date: Tue, 8 May 90 10:59 MET
From: Maarten van Gelder <MAARTEN%RUG.NL@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: Introduction

I am 45 years old, married and have two children: a boy of 15 and a girl of 13.
My wife doesn't fold at all but she is interested in what I fold. My son folds
just the same things I do: single objects and they may be very difficult (Top
Origami and the like). My daughter doesn't  do much folding and when she does
she makes easy things for decoration etcetera.
My profession is computer programmer at the computer centre of the University
in Groningen, Holland. Besides making programs I give some programming courses
too (in Pascal).

At an age of about 8 years I got my first folding book. It was a Dutch
translation of "The art of Chinese paper folding for young and old" by Mrs.
Maying Soong (1948). This book contains a series of models, but no explicit
folding technique. So after that I didn't do real Origami, but just a little
bit folding among a lot of other things.
But summer 1980 there was some information about Origami in the newspaper and I
got wondering. Than at Xmas 1980 I received a book along with some real Origami
paper. The next three months I did nothing but folding.
I took some of the folded objects with me to my office. Someday one of our
users came in, saw the Origami objects and told me about the BNOS. So I became
a member of the association and kept folding.
Not as much as that first three months, but steady.

Brad told me I am the first Dutch subscriber. Because of that I think it is
worth while to give you some information about the Dutch Origami association
OSN.

OSN stands for:    Origami Societeit Nederland

History:
    In 1979 the BNOS (Belgisch-Nederlandse Origami Societeit) was founded.
    Because of some internal troubles and the growth of the association there
    was a split in 1983.
    From off december 1983 the OSN (Origami Societeit Nederland) existed as a
    separate association with about 300 members.

Size:
    At this moment (may 1990) the OSN has about 6000 members so it is the
    largest Origami association in the world.
    In the last 7 years this amount grew with about 50% each year. That is why
    we have a lot of beginners and only a few people folding difficult things.

Newsletter:
    Our newsletter is the "ORISON" and has 6 issues a year.
    It contains models from members, cultural information, messages and
    information about activities and actual information from the OriService.
    I am one of the members of the editorial staff.

Activities:

    OriService:
         Selling books and Origami paper via post-order.

    Courses:
         beginners and following up (renders a lot of new members).

    Regional meetings for members:
         Members show their models. Non-members may come and see.

    "Vouwkringen":
         Small Origami-groups in towns and other parts of the country.

Maarten van Gelder                         MAARTEN@RC.RUG.NL
Lichtboei 210
9732 JK  Groningen
Holland





Date: Tue, 8 May 90 21:57:31 PDT
From: andataco!vann@ucsd.edu (V'Ann Cornelius)
Subject: welcome

Maarten,
Welcome to our network. I am pleased to meet you. I am amazed to hear that
origami has gained so much attention in Holland. I thought the British
Origami Society was the most widely joined group. Are there books translated
into Dutch or do your beginners learn like we do, by reading diagrams
regardless of their support language?
By the by, I was in Gronigen about ten years ago... a very beautiful place.

V'Ann Cornelius
vann%andataco.uucp@ucsd.edu





From: RLANG@vlsi.JPL.NASA.GOV
Date: Mon,  7 May 90 08:57:43 PDT
Subject: origami PostScript files

Oh yeah--I forgot the intro and bio for the eavesdroppers. I'm a laser
physicist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, working on
semiconductor lasers and related optoelectronics (the trendy yuppie
word is now "photonics"). I'm married (my wife's name is Diane) and
have a 3-month-old son who recently created his first origami design
from a restaurant placemat (it was an asteroid).

I'm also working on a computer program (in Pascal, on the Macintosh)
to do origami on-screen (and possibly automatically generate diagrams,
perform animation of folds, and anything else if time, and my
programming skills, permit). Jacob Fastag (TelNet STO@CORNELLA) is
doing something similar for the PC and we have agreed to share our
efforts and work in Object Pascal to facilte porting from one platform
to the other. Therefore, I'd be interesting in receiving any
suggestions, particularly on the user interface and features that
folks would like to see.

Ciao,

Robert J. Lang





Date: 9 May 90 11:10:00 EDT
From: "SI02::HAMMONDR" <hammondr%si02.decnet@gw2.hanscom.af.mil>
Subject: Hello

My name is Reed Hammond. I have been fascinated by the many creations I have
seen with origami and have been wanting to buy a book to learn how but
procrastination has always gotten the better of me. When I noticed this
interest group I thought that I could get some good ideas and know better what
to look for in a beginners book.

I am in the Air Force, Currently stationed in Massachusetts. I claim Oregon as
Home. I am a Computer Programmer working mostly in FORTRAN.  I am interested
in just about anything I can get to learn the art of folding.

Looking forward seeing your ideas.

Thanks
Reed





Date: Sun, 13 May 90 08:24:35 PDT
From: andataco!vann@ucsd.edu (V'Ann Cornelius)
Subject: thanks...convention...art/craft

Brad... thank you for the archive. Reading the whole set seemed like
watching something come to life. Thank you for making it to the convention
so that I could meet you, hear more about the network, and beable to
write this note.

As I read your description of the 'Home Office', I was able to remember
how friendly the people were there. Jan Polish greeted each person who
came in and always took time to introduce new folk around. With her
energy, the sparkle of Kathy O'Regan, the dynamism of Mike Shall, they
communicated a sense of 'welcome home' to me. What a great feeling, meeting
folders from all many places, and seeing unbelievalbe models. People who
didn't make the conference this year ... be encouraged to plan for next
year...

Eric Lease Morgan... I wonder if our librarian bent created the interest
in classifying origami ... art or/and craft. I've been asking people's
opinion for a few years and Don Shall made a comment last year that
has stayed with me...'whenever you come to a definition, you'll find that
there is still more...'. Sounds like that 'vague, gray, fuzzy' discussion
earlier.

I'd like to hear more of your thoughts on the interdisciplinary nature of
origami. I've got some thoughts on that (I'll share in a different message).

until later... V'Ann Cornelius...vann@andataco.uucp.edu





Date: Fri, 18 May 90 10:54 MET
From: Maarten van Gelder <MAARTEN%RUG.NL@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Hello Origamians

It takes some time to read the archives and I have not yet finished them
all. I got them by FTP and that went very fast. I took about five minutes
to get them and because I accidentally deleted the oldest files I had to
get them again. It gave me a sort of kick to read the directory in a
computer in the States (in the dark night there) from my keyboard (at 10
o'clock in Holland).

I saw one question that I can answer:      KON-NICHI-WA
means "good day". And KON-BAN-WA is good evening. The Japanese say "O-HAYO"
(it's early) only early in the morning (till about 9).
I followed Japanese lessons for one year so I know some Japanese words and
sentences. The reason to learn Japanese was that I have _TOP ORIGAMI_ (the
original Japanese version of _Origami for the Connoiseur_) but I couldn't
read the text. Some Japanese person here in Holland had translated a lot of
the text in English and another person translated this to Dutch. But I
didn't like the layout of that text so I put it in the text processor to
get a nice layout. While typing I discovered that some of the sentences
were just rubbish and the appered to be rubbish in the English version too.
Then I tried to reconstruct the sentences by comparing the three version of
the text and I succeeded in finding the meaning of about 60 Japanese
(Chinese) characters. I also succeeded to get the text I wanted but I was
not totally content. Some statement was made about a theorema in _VIVA OR-
IGAMI_ about origami and I wanted to know that theorema. But as you may
know _VIVA ORIGAMI_ is in Japanese (there are only 6 English words in it of
which three are: Made in Japan). So I decided to learn Japanese.
I found that Japanese is a very difficult language.
Last october (1989) seven members of the OSN visited Japan but I only once
spoke Japanese. The guides on the touristical trip always speak English.

Finally I had like to know some more about sending diagrams by Email.

Maarten van Gelder                         MAARTEN@RC.RUG.NL





Date: Mon, 21 May 90 16:12 MET
From: Maarten van Gelder <MAARTEN%RUG.NL@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: Hint

Hello OrigaMailers

I found a question about a group name but no suggestions. Doesn't this sound a
good name for our group: OrigaMailers?

> 900 unit kusudama
My son and I have made the 900 unit kusudama last year. We both folded 450
units of 3x3inch. Folding took us together about 23 hours (1.5 min per unit)
and assembling 7 hours. This labor was spreaded over a time of several weeks
(only freetime).
We used an adapted Sonobe module so the total kusudama was assembled without
any glue. We suspended the kusudama by a six sided piece of cardboard about
three quarters the diameter of the kusudama.

>>>>> To V'Ann:
Most Origami books we have in Holland are in English and Japanese so we just
fold from the diagrams. Only a few books are translated to Dutch. Finally: we
have some original Dutch Origami books but they contain all easy models. Our
OriService has just started a series of books with difficult models but that
is not printed in full color etcetera but simple, black and white and cheap.

>>>>> To Brad:
I just folded the biplane of RobertLang this sunday afternoon. You asked for
help on step 11 in begin March. If you still need a hint here it is.

   In diagram 11 the folding lines look like:

   --------------     valley fold
    \  * _                           <---   Looking inside the flap (wing)
      \     * _                             from here you see a triangle.
        \        *    mountain fold         This triangle should be squash
          \                                 folded on the lines indicated.
            \                               So in the layer(s) beneath there
              \                             is an extra valley fold just
                \      valley fold          under the mountain fold.

>>>>> To Michael Jenkins:
I read the archives and thank you for your direct E-mail. Answers to your nail
are:
Yes, I know Everdien Tiggelaar. She is the 'engine' of our association.
No, I don't know any addresses of other Origami associations. But two years
ago we got a request for information like yours from Paul Seth Hoffman. I gave
him the same information as on my intro. Also I sent him one address not of an
association but of a newsletter for experienced origamians "The Origami
Collection". This newsletter was run at that time by Mark Overmars but he
hasn't enough time any more to continue. Mike Bridges (member of the BOS) wil
take over his job. I don't know his address but here is the address of Paul
(in februari 1988):

      Paul Seth Hoffman
      4817 Sheboygan Avenue/Apt. #408
      Madison, Wisconsin          53705

Maarten van Gelder                         MAARTEN@RC.RUG.NL
Lichtboei 210
9732 JK  Groningen
Holland





From: tiger@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Hi, I have just subscribed to this miling list
Date: Wed, 23 May 90 18:02:18 EDT

 Hi, my name is Jenn Scwartz (tiger@athena.mit.edu) and I was instructed
to send an origami biography to introduce myself.  I have just finnished
my freshman year at MIT and I plan to major in enviromental engineering
science.  I have enjoyed doing origami for several years, but I find it
hard to find time to do very much these days.  Maybe this summer...

 Hopefully I will spend some time soon figuring out how to make some
multi-pieced models I have directions for.

 I am eager to make contact with other origami enthusiasts.

			-Jenn Schwartz





Date: Fri, 25 May 90 07:14:00 PDT
From: andataco!vann@ucsd.edu (V'Ann Cornelius)
Subject: thinking and folding

Origami as a multi-dimensional experience.

When folding, I have observed a human capability.
Some readers may have formal explanation for the follow, I hope you
will share them.

The process of folding suggests to me an intuitive understanding of
mathematics as a language. I have very little math to lean on and
yet I was able to 'discover' for myself a ratio between the square
paper and the blintz base (I did have a highschool intro to pythagoras).
When I told a friend... "look what happens!" he told me about sine/cosine.
I still haven't generalized what I've found but the possiblity that the idea
was noticed by an a-mathematical person seems exciting.

It seems that people must have an internal math interpreter or they
couln't play catch. This internal-math-interpreter gets free reign when a
person folds paper.

Any comments on what cognitive abilities people have that help paperfolders?

V'Ann Cornelius
vann%andataco.uucp@ucsd.edu





Date:     Fri, 1 Jun 90 17:14:12 EDT
From: Bernie Cosell <cosell@BBN.COM>
Subject:  Origami video tape available

I was thumbing through the catalog from Victorian Video Productions,
and ran across:

  Origami --- The art of Paper Folding, Volume I   is a unique and
  fascinating videotape that reveals the secrets of this ancient art form.
  For centuries people all over the world have loved the art of paper
  folding.  Now you and your entire family can quickly learn the magic of
  origami.  With step-by-step, easy to follow instructions children learn as
  quickly as adults.  You will learn to make about 20 designs, including a
  sailboat, cup, flying bird, butterfly, snake, and a whale.  You will learn
  about making origami paper, creating giant origami figures and a little
  history.  65 minutes   $19.95

These folks have LOTS of neat-looking crafts video titles {although this was
the only origami one}.   Victorian Video Productions
			 1304 Scott Street
			 Petaluma, CA 94952

   __
  /  )                              Bernie Cosell
 /--<  _  __  __   o _              BBN Sys & Tech, Cambridge, MA 02138
/___/_(<_/ (_/) )_(_(<_             cosell@bbn.com





Date: Sat, 2 Jun 90 01:56:07 -0400
From: stiller@cs.bu.edu
Subject: origami mailing list

>   Posted-Date: Fri, 1 Jun 90 08:44:33 CDT
>   From: brad@cs.utexas.edu (blumenthal @ home with the armadillos)
>   Date: Fri, 1 Jun 90 08:44:33 CDT
>   X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (6.5.6 6/30/89)
>
>   I would appreciate it if you would send something to the list (i.e.,
>   send mail to origami@cs.utexas.edu) introducing yourself (who and
>   where you are in real life), and telling folks how you got into
>   origami, what kind of stuff you like to do, etc (just a little origami
>   biography).  This will also check the entry in the origami address
>   list if no other traffic comes along first.

OK. I am not knowledgeable about the field.  My only origami
experience was working through the first Montroll book, which I
enjoyed very much. I was bothered by the non-planarity (thickness),
non-regularity and stretchability of the paper, (so that folds were
not isometries). I would be interested in software for origami
development (a graphics interface that presumes a perfect square of
zero thickness) or a material that could be used for folding and would
be much thinner and less stretchable than paper. Perhaps this could
help in creating, either on computer or in the physical world, models
of fold sequences more precise, possibly even more complex, than, for
example, the photographed models in the Montroll book.
lewis





Date: Mon, 4 Jun 1990 21:28:38 EDT
From: Maverick <shoopak@topaz.rutgers.edu>

	Ummm, I wonder if there is any "fractal-like" modular origami
(yeah, I know that most modular can be fractal) for use in computer
generation.  Theoretical Origami, assuming ideal characteristics would be
nice, but - I can't remember where I saw it - a program that scales and
assumes finite papyral elasticity and thickness, thus taking into account
shear and strain for all models generated.

	T.O. appears to be comparable to an infinite stretchable torus of
genus 1 which can be turned inside out.

	I propose a T.O. program with the following constraints:

		a)	True planarity ( 0 thickness )
		b)	Infinite shear and strain
		c)	No stretchability

	This should allow a variety of "simple" folds to be generated with
a finite possibility -- finite impossibility ergo infinite improbability :-)

	IITO, Infinite Improbability Theoretical Origami, should be as
possible and improbable as IID in HGTTG by Adams.  :-)

p.s.  actually, I tried working on a program to practice making models but
      in 3 2-d views iut's a pain.  Maybe, it's a job for Virtual Reality
      simulators.

					-rick.





Date: Tue, 5 Jun 90 22:16:48 PDT
From: andataco!vann@ucsd.edu (V'Ann Cornelius)
Subject: sending graphics

In response to some comments from earlier writers to 'sending diagrams'
through the network...

A few years ago, while managing a computer lab in a public school, we
sent Logo scripts through unix and shared the graphics generated by
our students. Our communications software had a feature that converted
the language of the graphics script to ??? and re-conveted the file
when received.

I am using EasyCad to diagram. It has a 'script' feature which stores the
program as a text file. If anyone reading this has EasyCad and wants
to mail scripts.... let me know.

I've also heard about 'page scanners' which will make a bit map of a
'graphics image'. A computer store 'down the block' scans an image for
$2. It takes ..(***much***)... memory. BUT maybe there is a "feature"
someone knows about that... converts bit scans into some readable form.
(They cost $much.) Is this technology really only available to serious
science and commercial adventurers?

In the meantime... how many graphics generating programs have a 'script'
feature?
V'Ann





Date: Wed, 6 Jun 90 21:39:23 PDT
From: andataco!vann@ucsd.edu (V'Ann Cornelius)
Subject: more on graphics

More thoughts about sharing diagrams....

The following is a sample of a file converted by EasyCad utility into an .EXF
format. Since it looks like plotting info, maybe other programs can interpret
this file and produce... a square...???  Some editing may be required but
this is a clean text file. I'm using pc-write.

V'Ann

--> --> -->  file explanation <-- <-- <--

Page 5-42 EasyCad manual

Line  1: the protocol used by EasyCad.
Line  2: the name of the file in EasyCad.
Line  3: EasyCad version info.
Line  4: inches per unit (measuring specs)
Line  5: vertical dimension text,font,format,decimal
Line  6: arrowhead angle (in radians), arrowhead type, size
Line  7: * indicates an entity record start
Line  8: entity type#, entity name
Line  9: layer,color,fill,outline,style
Line 10: node
Line 11-14: x,y coordinates
Line 15: last entry is alway 0,end of file

---- cut ----------- the .EXF file ----------------------

EXF2
SQUARE1.FCD
ECAD v2.05 drawing file:  Unlabeled drawing.
1.000000,Units
0,1,1,3,Dim Specs
2.932150,5,1.250000,Arrowhead Specs
*
7,POLYGON
1,1,0,0,1
4
2.061225,3.842365
2.061225,7.339902
5.153062,7.339902
5.153062,3.842365
*
0,EOF





Date: Thu,  7 Jun 90 13:41:58 PDT
From: RLANG@vlsi.JPL.NASA.GOV

There are several standard formats floating around for graphics
applications, but for sending over a network, one needs a text version.
Scanning a file as a bitmap takes mucho memory, as V'Ann mentioned,
and it isn't ASCII (which uses only 7 of the 8 bits of a byte; the
remaining 128 characters are undefined). There are also assorted
data compression schemes that can reduce the memory requirements
(particularly for images that are mostly white, like diagrams).
However, the images are still quite large and don't address the ASCII
requirement.

There are several quasi-universal graphics standards. Although I hadn't
heard of V'Ann's EXF format, the AutoCAD format DXF is a standard in
the CAD world. Don't know if it is text-based. The most common text-
based standard I know of is PostScript, whose praises I have sung
often; it is accepted by a wide variety of printers (including
all Apple laser printers and several IBM ones). There is also a widely-
distributed public description of the standard (it is published by
Addison-Wesley).

The drawback to using a low-level standard like PostScript, rather than
a high-level standard, like a CAD description, is that the former is
not generally editable.

I'm sending some PS files to Brad, who will distribute them to interested
parties.

Robert J. Lang





Date: Thu, 7 Jun 90 16:48:32 EDT
From: cs00elm@unccvax.uncc.edu (e. morgan)
Subject: Re:  thinking and folding

I like the idea of an "internal math interpreter to whom V'Ann
alludes. This sort of thinquing, origami as mathematics eduation is
something our schools need. But could you imagine what some parents
would think when they discovered their children were learning
mathematics through paper folding.  There certainly would be a large
turn out at school board meetings!

In my opinion, orgiami is just one of  many disciplines that
 are multi-disciplinary. Again, I believe if more people had a inter
-disciplinart approach to living, then there would be more
understanding between people of different cultures and ethnic
backgrounds.

Eric Lease Morgan





Date: Thu, 7 Jun 90 16:49:46 EDT
From: cs00elm@unccvax.uncc.edu (e. morgan)
Subject: Re:  origami mailing list

I thinque Lewis Stiller(?) has verbalized a barrier to unlimited
origami creation when he mentions the limitations of a paper's
thickness and stretchability. There is a similar limitation in
astronomy when the astronomer can never do experiments on the stars.

On the other hand, one of the joys of origami is the creation of
models from the materials at hand; "make due with what you got."

Eric Lease Morgan





From: brad@cs.utexas.edu (blumenthal @ home with the armadillos)
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 90 23:04:01 CDT
Subject: Come and get it!!

Arrghh.  I'm so behind, it's unreal.  I have 30 messages to origami
sitting in my mailbox waiting to be answered, and I'm still working on
my trip report from the origami convention in April (!).  However,
this just couldn't wait.  Robert Lang has sent three pages of fold
diagrams in postscript format.  They are about 50K each.  They are
sitting in the anonymous ftp directory on cs.utexas.edu under
~ftp/tmp/pcock?.ps (where the ? is 1, 2, or 3).  These should be ready
to blast to your favorite postscript printer; I know for a fact that
lpr will work for a unix host sending to a laserwriter.  I folded it
tonight and it's a very nice model.  Anyone who can't ftp and has the
appropriate printer *and* is ready to accept 150K worth of mail, send
me some email, and we'll work something out.

Share and enjoy!

Take care,
brad

P.S.  Just to document what I think is the first instance of a fold
being distributed in this manner, please send a short note to me if
you ftp the files and print them out successfully.

BBB





Date: Wed, 13 Jun 90 09:34:55 -0700
From: storm@smaug.nas.nasa.gov (Steve Storm)
Subject: It worked!!

On top of my Sun monitor sits a little peacock folded out
of a dollar bill, proof that a fold can be FTP'd, printed,
and folded, and work wonderfully.  I love it!!

Now, to the person who made those files, how did you do that?
The drawings were crisp and clear and quite followable.  I
have done a good deal of drawing on my Mac, but would find
myself hardpressed to come up with something that excellent.
One person I showed the printout to bvelieved it's from some
CAD/CAM package.  It piques my curiousity mightily.  Also,
got any more of these wonderful files???

-storm

As we endure storms,     |  storm@smaug.nas.nasa.gov
So we receive rainbows.  |  (415) 604-4334





Date: Thu, 14 Jun 90 10:33:26 EDT
From: cs00elm@unccvax.uncc.edu (e. morgan)
Subject: K U D O S !

Dear Fellow Origamians,

Kudos to Robert Lang and and Brad Blumenthal!

After many steps (uploading the files to my VAX, uploading the files to
my Macintosh, and downloading the files to my laser printer) I have
successfully printed Robert Lang's diagrams.

They are clear and easy to read ... very professional looking. I truely
believe he has hit on something here.

Here is a hint if you use a Macintosh environment to print the
diagrams. Use SendPS to download the files to your laser printer. As its
About Box states, "This file can be freely distributed ... ". Maybe it
should be added to the archives.

Again, excellent work Robert Lang and Brad Blumenthal.

Eric Lease Morgan
CS00ELM@UNCCVAX





Date: Sun, 17 Jun 90 15:03:57 EDT
From: cs00elm@unccvax.uncc.edu (e. morgan)
Subject: Re:  It worked!!

Yes, I thinque so too! In my opionion all you need is a drawing program
that saves files in encapsulated postscript format. The result is a text file
that is interpreted by you postscript printer. Many drawing programs for the
Macintosh  do this.

I am thinquing of contributing a simple chess set.

Eric Lease Morgan





Date:     Sun, 17 Jun 90 16:42:52 EDT
From: Bernie Cosell <cosell@BBN.COM>
Subject:  Copyright and diagrams

Assuming that it becomes easier to exchage "computer drawn" folds,
please be careful about where you get the folds from.  Almost every
*normal* source of folds is copyrighted, and so you can **NOT** just
copy it into MacDraw and ship it out.

For example, the BoS states: "No part of this publication may be
reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted, in any form
or by any means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or
otherwise, without the prior permission of the publisher."   Most
books, of course, are simply copyrighted by the publisher and/or the
author, and so you can't copy _them_.  I don't have any FoCA stuff
handy, so I can't check, but I would be surprised if it didn't include
similar restrictions.

I would think a simple rule is prudent: if the fold has a well-defined
creator, then you *for*sure* should get their permission before you
make a copy.  If it does not, then you're _probably_ OK, but you still
can't copy any diagram you've seen for it (or else you need the
permission of the artist who did THAT diagram), but you could do your
own diagram from scratch.

   __
  /  )                              Bernie Cosell
 /--<  _  __  __   o _              BBN Sys & Tech, Cambridge, MA 02138
/___/_(<_/ (_/) )_(_(<_             cosell@bbn.com





Date: Sun, 17 Jun 90 19:02:49 PDT
From: andataco!vann@ucsd.edu (V'Ann Cornelius)
Subject: chess set

Our San Diego Group has been looking for chess sets. If you contribute one
in postscript... I'll be force to find a way to get a copy.
V'Ann





Date: Mon, 18 Jun 90 09:20:59 EDT
From: cs00elm@unccvax.uncc.edu (e. morgan)
Subject: Re:  chess set

... this chess set is my own creation ... it is *very* simple!
Eric Lease Morgan





Date: Mon, 18 Jun 90 07:58:10 PDT
From: RLANG@vlsi.JPL.NASA.GOV
Subject: Peacocks and PostScript

For those who wondered about how I did the peacock: I drew the diagrams using
Aldus FreeHand 2.0 (on the Mac), which is a top-flight drawing program. It's
what John Montroll used for the second edition of Origami Sculptures, and what
we (John and I) used for our just-a-few-days-from-publication collaboration,
Origami Sea Life.  FreeHand lets you link in your own PostScript code, and
I wrote a set of routines in PostScript to do dashed line justification; if
you print out the text for the Peacock, you can find my routines (they start
with the line "%Copyright )1989,1990 by Robert J. Lang" and end with the line
"%end of origami line definitions").

Any drawing program that can export to Encapsulated PostScript Format (EPSF)
can create a text file of PostScript, although Brad has pointed out to me that
you need to insert a "showpage" command at the end to send it directly to a
PostScript printer. A lesser-known fact is that ANY Mac program that can print
to the LaserWriter can create a text file of PostScript! All you have to do
is, after you've clicked the "OK" button in the Print dialog, immediately
press and hold down the F key until you see the words "Creating PostScript
File" appear (instead of "Looking for LaserWriter..."). The LaserWriter driver
will create a file called PostScript0 that can be directly downloaded to the
printer.

In fact, if you are handy with ResEdit, there is a zero-size (hence invisible)
check box in the LaserWriter driver that you can go in and make visible, and
if you then check it when the print dialog comes up, it will create the
postscript file without you having to hold down the F key (as if that were
such a burden...).

-------------------------------------------------

Now, as goes copyrights: The FOCA has a two-page statement about rights and
customs as goes copying drawings, drawn up in consultation with a lawyer.
They point out that origami custom and courtesy is generally stricter than
law, and, without going into great detail, their position is more or less,
"don't duplicate and distribute anything without the permission of the
designer of the fold AND the diagrammer.

There is no question that PostScript diagrams are covered by copyright law
if they contain a copyright notice (mine do). PostScript instructions are
a computer program, and computer programs are protected by copyright law.
(That's why you can't legally redistribute a PostScript font, even if the
font itself is public-domain: because the font description is a program).

It would probably be a good idea for the PostScript diagrammer to include
code that printed the copyright notice (and maybe even other restrictions)
on the hard copy output, as well as including a comment line in the
PostScript code itself (for you non-postfix-notation aficionados, you
can insert a comment line by putting a % at the beginning of the line).

___________________________________________________

To all you folks who sent friendly comments about the Peacock--thanks!
This sure beats waiting a few years for the book to come out! If you have
any suggestions about the diagrams or wording that would make them clearer
to a beginning folder, please send them to me, either over the BBS or
directly. I see one of the great advantages of sending out PS diagrams is
that I can get rapid feedback on how to improve them. So just think of
yourselves as beta-testers for origami diagrams.

Robert J. Lang





Date: Mon, 18 Jun 90 20:01:03 PDT
From: kavanagh%ece@ucsd.edu (Karen Kavanagh)
Subject: New History

Karen Kavanagh - Assistant Prof at UCSD in the
Electrical and Computer Enegineering Dept.
Experimentalist studying structure and transport at
semiconductor surfaces and interfaces - electronic
materials science, TEM,RBS, Scanning tunneling
microscopes, etc.
I discovered the Friends of the Origami main office
in the Museum of Natural History in NY 2 years ago
and became a member shortly before moving to San Diego.
Didn't get to a San Diego meeting until last week where
I was immediately drafted into a demo at the famous
Del Mar Fair. Basically, I like puzzles and figuring out
models is pure fun. No new ones to report but now maybe
I'll think about it. Very pleased to have found another
great e-mail connection.
-K2
