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From: Martin Buchholz <mrb@Eng.Sun.COM>
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Subject: Re: 20.2-beta1 frozen!
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Reply-To: Martin Buchholz <mrb@Eng.Sun.COM>

>>>>> "sb" == Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com> writes:

sb> Jens Lautenbacher <jens@metrix.de> writes:
>> OK. I'll look into it.

sb> Cool.

>> How many colors do you give me guys?

sb> 12.[1]


sb> Footnotes: 
sb> [1]  That's how many colors the current icon uses.

I won't argue about the aesthetics of the current XE icon
(etc/xemacs-icon.xpm), but it does have some technical merit on a
colormap-challenged display:

- It doesn't actually have 12 distinct colors, as Steve claims.  And
  given that the primary colors are likely to be loaded anyways, that
  only leaves 7 shades of gray:

"a c #ADADADADADAD m white",
"b c #737373737373 m black",
"c c #636363636363 m black",
"d c #424242424242 m black",
"  c #DEDEDEDEDEDE m white s BgColor",
"h c #949494949494 m black",
"m c #BDBDBDBDBDBD m white",

- The color set was chosen with CDE conventions in mind.  If everyone
  follows the guidelines, then icons will look consistent across
  different apps, and they will SHARE entries in the colormap.  On the 
  other hand, the XEmacs community doesn't have much overlap with the
  CDE community.

I'm sure Jens can produce a more beautiful icon. Nevertheless, Sun
will likely ship XEmacs with the current icon.

Martin

Excerpt from xemacs-icon.xpm follows:

"a c #ADADADADADAD m white",
"b c #737373737373 m black",
"c c #636363636363 m black",
"d c #424242424242 m black",
"  c #DEDEDEDEDEDE m white s BgColor",
"g c #FFFF00000000 m black",
"h c #949494949494 m black",
"i c #636363636363 m black",
"j c #FFFFFFFFFFFF m white",
"k c #FFFFFFFF0000 m white",
"l c #DEDEDEDEDEDE m white",
"m c #BDBDBDBDBDBD m white",

