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From: Kyle Jones <kyle_jones@wonderworks.com>
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Subject: Re: time-el 1.3 / bug in balloon-help & transparent pixmaps ?
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Jens Lautenbacher writes:
 > Kyle Jones <kyle_jones@wonderworks.com> writes:
 > 
 > > The upper left corner is the only corner for which ballon-help
 > > has even remotely accurate coordinate information.  If the balloon
 > > is always displayed SE, then it will never be under the mouse.
 > > It might be off the screen, but such is life. :)
 > 
 > But can't we just add (subtract?) the frameheight * charheight pixels
 > if over the modeline -- we asume fixed.width and height fonts anyway? [1]
 > (so it will still be moved to the right of the mouse, but to the north
 > instead of the south)

The little mouse arrow usually points toward the sun in GUI-land,
i.e. northwest.  This means the thing the user is looking/pointing at
is least likely to be overlapped if the balloon is displayed in the
opposite direction, i.e. southeast.  So I'd rather keep the balloon
southeast.

 > > Sorry, I misunderstood what you were complaining about.  The
 > > extra line is a display hack for earlier versions of XEmacs that
 > > have no way to remove the minibuffer window.
 > 
 > OK, but can we conditionalize around this?

We can just get rid of it.  I don't care about 19.12 anymore.

