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From: Peter Pezaris <pez@dwwc.com>
To: Neal Becker <neal@ctd.comsat.com>
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Subject: Re: Signaling: (error "Variable binding depth exceeds max-specpdl-size")
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Okay, now I'm reduced to begging.

Not everyone on this mailing list has T1 access to their email.
There has been an incredible rise in the average message size on
this list of late, and this message is the latest example; 521 KB.

I am very interested in XEmacs development and would hate to have to
remove myself from this list (although some of you would probably
prefer not to have to listen to whining like this ;-) but I think
I'll be forced to unless we come up with some sort of policy about
this.

We all learned in C about how important pointers are.  Imagine if
you had to pass everything by value? Worse yet, what if every time
you wanted to pass a structure to a function you had to pass it to
every function in the program? That's what we're doing today with
this list.  Okay, so it's a bad metaphor, but you get the idea; it's
incredibly inefficient.

Luckily, with the advent of the internet and the ease of use of
products like Netscape and W3, and the ubiquitousness (is that a
word?) of ftp access, we can pass pointers to each other.  They're
called URLs.

This message wasn't meant to single out Neal in any way, I just
wanted to point out what I see as an increasing (and somewhat
disturbing) trend.

Thanks,
Pez

