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>>>>> "Martin" == Martin Buchholz <mrb@eng.sun.com> writes:
>>>>> "Pez" == Peter Pezaris <pez@dwwc.com> writes:

Pez> I would vote for changing it.  I would also vote for
Pez> including a EOF delimiter by default.

Martin> Referring to the value of require-final-newline, right?

I thought he meant a tag like the ``[END]'' in VAX Editors.

Martin> I think require-final-newline should default to something
Martin> other than nil.  Very few people edit files which require the
Martin> final newline to be MISSING.

But when they need it missing, they *really* need it missing.  I've
lost track of the number of times Emacs has saved my butt due to its
ability to edit binary files.

Martin> Most object code files are not damaged by having a trailing
Martin> newline added at the end, so even if you're in the habit of
Martin> editing binary executables directly, nothing should go wrong.

Martin> It *is* true that there is a slight chance of user
Martin> astonishment, if the user does an ls -l before and after
Martin> editing, and compares file sizes (I've done this).

Martin> Proposal:

Martin> require-final-newline should default to t.

Martin> (The folks I support have run this way for years)

Martin> Alternate proposal:

Martin> require-final-newline should default to 'ask.

I prefer the alternate proposal of the two, but I've never had a
problem with how Emacs deals with this.
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