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From: Heiko Muenkel <muenkel@tnt.uni-hannover.de>
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Subject: Re: HTML mode indentation bug
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>>>>> "Jens" == Jens Lautenbacher <jens@metrix.de> writes:

    Jens> Please. This is no religion. I'm making part time money with
    Jens> web technologies, and it's just that you _need_ all these
    Jens> netscape/msie extensions if you want real funky web
    Jens> pages. The web is in the commercial world not for
    Jens> /information/ but for /advertisement/, and even where it is
    Jens> meant as a information about a certain company this company
    Jens> simply *has* to make use of all the design possibilities the
    Jens> WWW offers -- they don't care about the theoretical
    Jens> background of sgml or the like.

Hmm and I've thought that companies would like to reach as many people
as possible with there information or non information :-). And that's
not possible if they use non standard html elements. I think that
Netscape and Microsoft are going to kill the main ideas of the
WWW. The Xemacs should not follow this bad way by default. Even in
these days, where most of the WWW authors don't know anything about
the philosphy behind the WWW, the HTML developing tools should use the
HTML standard by default to make it esasier for them to write HTML
documents, which could be read by everyone.

So include the non standard HTML elements, but please don't make it
easier to use these elements as to use only the standard elements.

I don't want to convert people to the right way, but I'd like to help
them to find it.

    Jens> People actually using XEmacs for web design have enought
    Jens> knowledge about what they do or do not, I suppose. The
    Jens> people you talk about don't use (plain text) editors anymore
    Jens> for HTML.

I don't think, that most people who are using the XEmacs for web
design are knowing more about web design than other authors. I think
most authors, if they are using the XEmacs or not, have never read
anything about the ideas of the web and about good or bad web
design. They are only trying to put all HTML elements they find in
there HTML editor in one page, so that they can bother as much people
as possible :-)


Regards,

Heiko

