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From: Jens Lautenbacher <jens@lemcbed.lem.uni-karlsruhe.de>
Date: 06 Mar 1997 16:50:14 +0100
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Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes:

> I really think it is a bad idea to have the Edit Faces menu entry call
> customize.  If you don't like what it does, just remove the item.
> 
> If you want to emphasize customize, move the customize submenu from
> the end of the help menu to the beginning of the Options menu.

I'm the one responsible for this step, so I'm to blame...

Could you tell me what is wrong with the following:

a) edit-faces.el and customize are two /different/ ways to change
   faces.

b) edit-faces.el and customize are not compatible with each other. If
   you change a face with edit-faces.el _and_ with customize, the
   results are pretty irritating, to say the least.

c) edit-faces does not work. We talked about this on this list many
   times that and why this is so.

d) custom.el is not ready, as you say. But basically, what it does
   with regards to faces it does better than edit-faces.el. 

e) if we are about to give features are that broken, we should at least
   give a version that is less broken than the other one. (Not that I
   would say custom is broken. It's you who is very careful in this
   regards) 

Conclusion: In any case -- remove edit-faces and stop save-options
from saving faces (with the exception of the 'default face's size,
weight and family: this should be saved as a valid customization
expression, maybe I'll find the time to look into this.) 

If we really want to give an "Edit faces" entry, use cutom -- but I
see that the authors opinion counts here. But would you please give a
little more reasoning than "I really think it is a bad idea".

       JTL

PS: Please include IMHO on places it seems appropriate to you.

