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From: Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr>
Date: 04 Mar 1997 02:36:14 +0100
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Martin Buchholz <mrb@Eng.Sun.COM> writes:

> XEmacs should adopt, by default, the look and feel of the applications
> in that operating environment - e.g. in vanilla OpenWindows, use the
> resources that apps use in that environment, and the same for CDE.

You are right.

> Linux is too chaotic to have a `default' look and feel, although CDE
> is available there as well as a commercial add-on.

This has nothing to do with Linux.  On Linux you have CDE
(commercial), OpenLook (free), Qt and others.  On each of these XEmacs
should behave as appropriate.  Only I haven't the faintest idea how to
go about it.  To make things worse, with plain X11/fvwm settings there
is really no clue as to how XEmacs should behave.

> Even if most XEmacs users don't use CDE today, that number is
> increasing, and CDE provides an obvious source of interface design
> ideas and specific color choices.

The number of fvwm2 users is increasing too.  Increasing number is no
argument in this case.

One of the problems with XEmacs, as with many other free software
projects, is that much of the work is done by hackers/programmers
(and/or their likes), and too little is done by designers and UI
experts (as designers will seldom work for little or no fee).

XEmacs looks like a project that *cries* for a competent team of
outlook designers.  If CDE can provide a set of "finished" design
guidelines for making interface/color design nice-looking and
consistent, I think we should go for it.

OTOH, if CDE design style makes XEmacs too ugly or doesn't fit into
existing schemes (XEmacs, being an Emacs, quite differs from a lot of
existing software), then I say we dump it, and use something else
instead.

-- 
Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia
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