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Subject: Default background menu
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Jens Lautenbacher writes:
 > Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> writes:
 > 
 > > Michael Harnois <mharnois@sbt.net> writes:
 > > 
 > > > I think this is way too dark. The white was too hard on the eyes
 > > > because of the high contrast, but this is hard on the eyes on account
 > > > of the low contrast -- black is fine on it, but trying to read any but
 > > > the brightest colors against it makes me squint. I use ghost white and
 > > > think it's just about right. Anything darker than about a grey95 is
 > > > too dark, imho.
 > > 
 > > As Steve said, there's no way to please everyone.  That's what your
 > > ~/.Xdefaults is for, for you to have personal settings.  Some of us
 > > like the new default.
 > 
 > Of course some of us like this. But you have to admit, this was a
 > rather fast shoot. I don't think that what we did today (with the
 > colours or with the logo) counts as being long and well discussed with
 > everyone... :-)

I agree.  I didn't hear anyone say the matter was decided.  I know
this isn't a democracy, but maybe a *little* more discussion is
warranted.

Please remember that my preference is actually for light text (Wheat1)
on a dark, but not quite black (Gray20) background.  I think there are
many more colors that look good on dark than on light.  So to some
extent I find all these options relatively eye-searing.  I'm trying to
use a light background in my web pages, though, since most people seem
to prefer that, so I have thought about this some.

Having said that, I took a look in my rgb.txt and pulled out a few
light colors:

255 255 255		white

242 242 242 		gray95
229 229 229 		gray90
217 217 217 		gray85
204 204 204 		gray80

255 250 250		snow
248 248 255		GhostWhite
245 245 245		WhiteSmoke

255 250 240		FloralWhite
250 240 230		linen
253 245 230		OldLace
255 245 238		seashell
245 255 250		MintCream
255 255 240		ivory

250 235 215		AntiqueWhite
255 240 245		LavenderBlush
255 228 225		MistyRose
240 255 255		azure
255 248 220		cornsilk

Then I threw a menu up so I could switch easily between them:

(add-menu 'nil "Backgrounds"
	  '(
	    ["white"  (set-face-background 'default "white") t]
	    ["gray95"  (set-face-background 'default "gray95") t]
	    ["gray90"  (set-face-background 'default "gray90") t]
	    ["gray85"  (set-face-background 'default "gray85") t]
	    ["gray80"  (set-face-background 'default "gray80") t]
	    ["gray75"  (set-face-background 'default "gray75") t]
	    "-----"
	    ["snow"  (set-face-background 'default "snow") t]
	    ["WhiteSmoke"  (set-face-background 'default "WhiteSmoke") t]
	    ["GhostWhite"  (set-face-background 'default "GhostWhite") t]
	    "-----"
	    ["FloralWhite"  (set-face-background 'default "FloralWhite") t]
	    ["linen"  (set-face-background 'default "linen") t]
	    ["OldLace"  (set-face-background 'default "OldLace") t]
	    ["seashell"  (set-face-background 'default "seashell") t]
	    ["ivory"  (set-face-background 'default "ivory") t]
	    ["MintCream"  (set-face-background 'default "MintCream") t]
	    "-----"
	    ["AntiqueWhite"  (set-face-background 'default "AntiqueWhite") t]
	    ["LavenderBlush"  (set-face-background 'default "LavenderBlush") t]
	    ["MistyRose"  (set-face-background 'default "MistyRose") t]
	    ["azure"  (set-face-background 'default "azure") t]
	    ["cornsilk"  (set-face-background 'default "cornsilk") t]
	    "-----"
	    ["gray20"  (set-face-background 'default "gray20") t]
	    ))

The first section are the grays, then some almost-whites, then some
more off-white, and then some that I think have way too much color.
Finally my default so I could get back to my preference easily.

Anyway, if others want to fool around with these, have at it.

-- 
John Turner
http://www.lanl.gov/home/turner

