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To: turner@lanl.gov
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Subject: Re: 19.15-b4 bench results (get ready...)
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From: Adrian Aichner <aichner@ecf.teradyne.com>
Date: 16 Dec 1996 14:33:47 +0100
In-Reply-To: John Turner's message of Sun, 15 Dec 1996 23:46:01 -0700
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John Turner <turner@xdiv.lanl.gov> writes:

Hah!

I regularily hang up during benchmarks with
XEmacs 20.0 [Lucid] (sparc-sun-solaris2.5, Mule) of Thu Dec 12 1996 on engine
beta30
and i DO use (display-time)

That's my point of light (I don't have thousands of 'em).

Adrian

> 
> You're not gonna believe this...
> 
> John Turner writes (responding to Steve Bauer):
> 
>  >  > Keep turning things off then.  If it isn't lazy-lock, or func-menu it
>  >  > must be something else then.  I hope what you meant by `turned off',
>  >  > was exiting the program, commenting out the lines in .emacs that turn
>  >  > on the specific package and restarting.  All bets are off otherwise.
>  > 
>  > Definitely.  Everything from clean starts.
>  > 
>  >  > If you didn't lock up when running in a naked environment, but you did
>  >  > when your .emacs is loaded, then you need to isolate which package is
>  >  > doing the damage.
>  >  > 
>  >  > I think if we only get as far as isolating that, it would be an
>  >  > enormous improvement.
>  > 
>  > I know.  I don't look forward to doing this.  If I had finished this
>  > msg before my recompile with --debug=no finished I was going to go
>  > home.  But the rebuild just finished, so I guess I'll play with it
>  > some...
> 
> First modified bench.el to just do the 1st 3 tests.
> 
> Then I omitted each of the following in turn (independently):
> 
> o my .xemacs-options
> o scroll-in-place
> o all the unbundled stuff I have
> o filladapt
> o (display-column-mode)
> 
> Each time, the display hung during test 3 until C-l.
> 
> Then I found it.  Commented out (display-time) -> no hang.
> 
> Did (bench 5) just to make sure -> success.
> 
> Uncommented it again and watched the time as it executed.  Sure
> enough, when the minute changed, it hung.
> 
> So is everybody who sees these hangs using (display-time)?  This is
> hilarious, because there's really no need for time in the modeline any
> more anyway.  This is a relic from my earliest days using Emacs back
> in the Emacs 18 days.
> 
> Just for clarification, these really aren't hangs per se.  XEmacs just
> sits there until it receives some sort of input.  Those of us who see
> it have gotten in the habit of just hitting C-l when we think we've
> typed something and it isn't showing up.
> 
> As for the Hanoi test being 2.5x longer using my .emacs versus -q, I
> don't see that any more.  They're slightly slower (15%), but it's not
> a big deal, and I don't know what the deal was with those earlier
> results.
> 
> I'm going to leave a (bench 20) running, and I'll report that
> tomorrow...
> 
> --
> John A. Turner         |"Music is the cup which holds the wine of silence;
> Los Alamos Natl. Lab.  |  sound is that cup, but empty;
> e-mail: turner@lanl.gov|    noise is that cup, but broken."
>                        |                        - Robert Fripp
> 
> 

