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From: John Turner <turner@xdiv.lanl.gov>
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Subject: Re: 19.15-b4 on Solaris 2.5.1 success
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Steven L. Baur writes:

 > Under similar compiler optimization settings 19.14 and 19.15 are about
 > the same speed.  At any rate, I haven't received or installed any
 > performance patches yet.

That's what I had gathered, but I've been wondering how much
difference the extra UltraSPARC-specific flags would make.

 > You didn't set `--debug=no'.

Argh.  We're a pair.  I just recently reminded you of
--error-checking, and here I've gone and forgotten this one.

 > It's in the Tools menu.  Actually, it appeared first in 20.0, put in
 > by Martin?

Not that it matters much, but I'd like to argue for Apps instead,
because I view the things in Apps as sort of independent processes.
VM, Gnus, W3 seem to fit that, and I see the shells similarly.  Tools
are more things you do on a file or buffer or directory or whatever.

Anyway, this has been argued about before.  It doesn't matter that
much, and there are other things that don't really fit which menu
they're in, IMHO (like Spell-Check Buffer).

Whatever.

 > John> (add-menu '("Apps") "Shells"
 > John> 	  '(
 > John> 	    ["local machine"              shell   t]
 > John> 	    ["remote machine via rsh"     rsh     t]
 > John> 	    ["remote machine via telnet"  telnet  t]
 > John> 	    ) "Read Mail (VM)...")
 > John> (add-menu-item '("Apps") "-----" 'nil nil "Read Mail (VM)...")
 > 
 > O.K.  That's not bad.  I'd like to see the remote hosts be expanded on
 > by being able to specify host and username, something like
 > 
 > (setq remote-hosts-alist '(("geordi" . "root")
 >                            ("deanna" . "steve")
 >                            ("riker" . "slist")))
 > 
 > Has anyone coded (or care to code) this?

That would be pretty cool.

 > John> o Tried forwarding a post in Gnus, and noticed that although ,
 > John>   and SPC expand aliases in the From: line, C-n doesn't.  I
 > John>   mentioned this very late in the 19.14 beta cycle, and can't
 > John>   remember what became of it.
 > 
 > It's a feature.

Hmm.  OK.

--
John A. Turner         |"Music is the cup which holds the wine of silence;
Los Alamos Natl. Lab.  |  sound is that cup, but empty;
e-mail: turner@lanl.gov|    noise is that cup, but broken."
                       |                        - Robert Fripp

