From: wlhuber@airmail.net (Bill Huber) Subject: Kite Flyers Database Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 20:52:58 -1000 Organization: customer of Internet America Message-ID: <319c1dac.10454169@news.airmail.net> I have been a reader of REC.KITS for some time now and there is always the question about who fly in what area. Like: I am in Kansas City and would like to know if there are any kite flyers around. So I have been thinking about this and if we could get a WEB site to put the file up for download I would keep the database. The file could be in a DBF format or just a plan text file. If you wanted you name in the file just Email me and I could add it to the database. Suggest information for the file. Name , first and last Email address. State. Country. Zip Code. Area of and City name. Type of flying you do. Level of flyer. Example: Bill Huber wlhuber@airmail.net Texas USA 76180 North Fort Worth Stunt kits 2 and 4 line Beginner Think about it, you are going on vacation and could send some one in your vacation area a note and meet a new flyer and get in a little flying. You are moving and want to get to know flyers in your area. Lets kick it around and if people want to do it, all we need is a Web site and I am ready to go. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = From: dgomberg@ednet1.osl.or.gov (David Gomberg) Subject: Re: Kite Flyers Database Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 06:08:18 -1000 Organization: Eastern Oregon State College Message-ID: <4ni89i$mrq@ednet1.orednet.org> Bill Huber suggests a database of kiters so we can know who is where. Nice idea, Bill - especially since you are willing to do the work. Thanks! But to save you a LOT of effort, let me tell you that this database already exists. The AKA membership directory lists 5,000 members in the USA and around the world. They are listed alphabetically, with address, phone numbers, and email addresses 9when available). The directory also lists all members geographically. This means you can look up Winnamucka WY in the directory and will find a list of all the AKA members there. Joining AKA cost $20 a year. You get the directory, $100,000 of insurance whenever you fly, a newsletter/magazine every two months, a 10 0iscount in most kite stores, and several other benefits. Hope that helps. -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Gomberg Kite Productions, International Please note my new email address: dgomberg@orednet.org The "from" line is this posting may be incorrect = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = From: rloiseau@aol.com (RLoiseau) Subject: Re: Kite Flyers Database Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 00:43:50 -1000 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Message-ID: <4nk9l6$7nk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> In article <319c1dac.10454169@news.airmail.net>, wlhuber@airmail.net (Bill Huber) writes: >Suggest information for the file. > > Name , first and last > Email address. > State. > Country. > Zip Code. > Area of and City name. > Type of flying you do. > Level of flyer. > >Example: >Bill Huber >wlhuber@airmail.net >Texas >USA >76180 >North Fort Worth >Stunt kits 2 and 4 line >Beginner > >Think about it, you are going on vacation and could send some one in >your vacation area a note and meet a new flyer and get in a little >flying. You are moving and want to get to know flyers in your area. > >Lets kick it around and if people want to do it, all we need is a Web >site and I am ready to go. > > AWESOME, but I dont see the need to classify your skill level. Robin RLoiseau@aol.com(the bird) Transcendent kites Robin Levick = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = From: The Kite Society of Great Britain <100255.116@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: Kite Flyers Database Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 08:29:10 -1000 Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736) Message-ID: <4nnp9m$s3p$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> But what about the rest of the world! We have 3500 members and I would guess that if 50f them were AKA members it would be a lot. Unless of course: a) Our members are not kitefliers or b) Rec.kites is only for America Jon and Gill Bloom -- The Kite Society of Great Britain = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = From: mark@murder.compulink.co.uk (Mark de Roussier) Subject: Re: Kite Flyers Database Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 08:00:31 -1000 Organization: damage Message-ID: <4o4uh3$9df@zinc.compulink.co.uk> The Kite Society of Great Britain <100255.116@CompuServe.COM> wrote: >But what about the rest of the world! We have 3500 members and I >would guess that if 50f them were AKA members it would be a >lot. > >Unless of course: > >a) Our members are not kitefliers > >or > >b) Rec.kites is only for America > Lets take a look at the original idea again, because it seems like its getting lost - the original poster ( An American ) wanted a way of finding out who the flyers *in his area* were, wanted to use a Web site to do it, and offered his services to maintain a database. I'd say David's response was appropriate. It certainly wouldn't cater for the average British flyer, but then why should it ? As you point out, if that were an objective ( and it certainly doesn't need to be), using a combination of different databases would be necessary, although I wasn't aware that the KSGB directory was presently available even to KSGB members. So, are the AKA and/or KSGB willing to act on Bill's initiative ? This issue, and related ones, have been discussed here before. I think there are two main problems here : 1. Its one thing to give your details on the understanding that they will be distributed or sold to other members, quite another to publish them for worldwide public consumption. I would certainly object strongly if I was not at least given the chance to remove my details >From any such list. If this were to be done, it would be an administrative overhead that I'm sure the relevant organisations could do without. 2. Organisations tend to perceive such lists as important assets, and are hence reluctant to distribute them freely. As David makes clear, the opportunity to get this list can be presented as a selling point for the organisation concerned. So unfortunately I think this idea, good though it may be from the individual flier's perspective, isn't going to happen any time soon. The time-honoured method of posting a cry for company to r.k still seems like the best bet. MdeR. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Final thoughts, as breath is taken, Fall to rhythm, and the Edge of pure obsession, Resting in the wind blown cradle, Nothing moves, the world is still... = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = From: wlhuber@airmail.net (Bill Huber) Subject: Re: Kite Flyers Database Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 07:40:14 -1000 Organization: customer of Internet America Message-ID: <31a5f3f9.6084760@news.airmail.net> Well I am going to do it. I have the web site started and the database is nothing, I can do that in 15 min. I have taken off the level of flyer, who needs it. As soon as I get the page working and working right I will post the address for all. It will be a start..... = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =