Date:	Thu, 7 Mar 1996 23:53:54 -1000
From:	gerfen@hsc.usc.edu (Gary W. Gerfen)
Message-Id: <4hp0da$i2j@usc.edu>
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Subject: Ivanpah and Quadtrac questions


I GOT ME A NEW QUADTRAC AND I'M GETTIN' MY FIRST BUGGY AND  I'M GOING 
TO IVANPAH  AND I'M PUMPED !!!!!!

Thanks, I needed to get that out.  

Unfortunately, there's a few details I gotta work out and maybe some of you can
help.  Does anybody know if camping is allowed on the lakebed or anywhere
nearby, or would anyone be interested in sharing a room?  I won't be coming out
until the 15th or 16th and staying till Sunday.  

What are some easy directions to the lakebed and where will everyone be meeting?


I just bought a QuadTrac 3 last weekend  and I'd like to know what wind range
this size kite would be adequate for.  I've currently got it set up with 100' of
200#/150#  lines.  Are these strong enough for buggying in the high wind
conditions out there?  Should I bring a set of 50' lines also?  

Should I make some sort of backstrap for the control handles to take the load
off my arms and shoulders?  Any recommendations on what type of material to use
or how long to make it?  Should the length not quite exceed my reach?

Any other useful info would be appreciated.  

TIA and see you all out there!

Gary





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Date:	Fri, 8 Mar 1996 07:00:33 -1000
From:	francis@blue.seas.upenn.edu (Francis J Gramkowski Iii)
Message-Id: <4hpp3h$ooq@netnews.upenn.edu>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Subject: Re: Ivanpah and Quadtrac questions

Gary W. Gerfen (gerfen@hsc.usc.edu) wrote:


: Unfortunately, there's a few details I gotta work out and maybe some of you can
: help.  Does anybody know if camping is allowed on the lakebed or anywhere
: nearby, or would anyone be interested in sharing a room?  I won't be coming out
: until the 15th or 16th and staying till Sunday.  

Camping is allowed on the lake bed.
: What are some easy directions to the lakebed and where will everyone be meeting?
Ivanpah is actually on most ggod road maps, its located on I-15 at the NV 
CA state line.  Take exit 1 in Nevada and go towards the convience store, 
next to the convinence store there is a gate which leads to the lake 
bed.  There is a marked road on the lake bed and you must stay on this 
road.  Follow this road for about 10 miles and there you will find the 
other buggiers.  This dry lake is home to a few endangered species so you 
are not supposed to ry faster than 30 miles on it.
: conditions out there?  Should I bring a set of 50' lines also?  

: Should I make some sort of backstrap for the control handles to take the load
: off my arms and shoulders?  
I would reccommed that you get a wind surfing harness or something 
similar.  A strap behind your back is not a good idea, if you were to 
fall out of your buggy with the kite in the power you will get dragged 
accorss the desert if you can't release the kite.

I'll see you out there

Fritz




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