From:	Steve Bateman <bateman@mail.sdsu.edu>
Subject: Floats on Peter Lynn handles?
Date:	Wed, 29 May 1996 09:00:52 -1000
Organization: San Diego State University
Message-ID: <31AC9EE4.797F@mail.sdsu.edu>

I was looking at the old Beyond 2000 show on buggies from Wildwood (2-3 years ago).
Most of the buggiers were flying Peels, and just below the PL handles on the harness 
were what looked like floats, bouy looking things.  What are these for? 

Steve Bateman
bateman@mail.sdsu.edu
Flying along.



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From:	francis@blue.seas.upenn.edu (Francis J Gramkowski Iii)
Subject: Re: Floats on Peter Lynn handles?
Date:	Wed, 29 May 1996 11:04:20 -1000
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <4oie4k$fec@netnews.upenn.edu>

Steve Bateman (bateman@mail.sdsu.edu) wrote:
: I was looking at the old Beyond 2000 show on buggies from Wildwood (2-3 years ago).
: Most of the buggiers were flying Peels, and just below the PL handles on the harness 
: were what looked like floats, bouy looking things.  What are these for? 

: Steve Bateman
: bateman@mail.sdsu.edu
: Flying along.
These floats are for boating.  When playing in surf the boat sometimes 
flip over requiring that you release the kite.  These floats keep your 
quick release handles from sinking.

I once lost a set without floats but luckily found it the next morning 
after the tide went out.

Fritz



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From:	ahclem0013@aol.com (AhClem0013)
Subject: Re: Floats on Peter Lynn handles?
Date:	Wed, 29 May 1996 19:22:09 -1000
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Message-ID: <4ojba1$g41@newsbf02.news.aol.com>

In article <31AC9EE4.797F@mail.sdsu.edu>, Steve Bateman
<bateman@mail.sdsu.edu> writes:

>I was looking at the old Beyond 2000 show on buggies from Wildwood (2-3
years
>ago).
>Most of the buggiers were flying Peels, and just below the PL handles on
the
>harness 
>were what looked like floats, bouy looking things.  What are these for? 
>
>

So you don't lose the handles when you drop them in the water.  There are
already a few at the bottom of Lake Clearwater.

aoxo-dean



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From:	windwiz@west.net (Dan Rubesh)
Subject: Re: Floats on Peter Lynn handles?
Date:	Wed, 29 May 1996 16:19:01 -1000
Organization: Wind Wizard
Message-ID: <4oj0il$mav@acme.sb.west.net>

In article <31AC9EE4.797F@mail.sdsu.edu>,
Steve Bateman  <bateman@mail.sdsu.edu> wrote:
>I was looking at the old Beyond 2000 show on buggies from Wildwood (2-3 years ago).
>Most of the buggiers were flying Peels, and just below the PL handles on the harness 
>were what looked like floats, bouy looking things.  What are these for? 
>
>Steve Bateman
>bateman@mail.sdsu.edu
>Flying along.

They _are_ floats, and likely the buggy pilot you saw was Fritz 
Gramkowski.. As Fritz spends a lot of time on the Buggy Boat, he just 
leaves the floats on.. When on the water, a dropped handle sinks like a 
brick without the floats.. :-)

See ya at El Mirage!!



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From:	gramfran@aol.com (Gramfran)
Subject: Re: Floats on Peter Lynn handles?
Date:	Wed, 29 May 1996 17:15:06 -1000
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Message-ID: <4oj3rq$d1i@newsbf02.news.aol.com>

Steve
The floats are needed when using the P L handles in the water on a boat.
They will stay on top if you drop them in a real bailout.
Fran
Fran Gramkowski, High Fly Kite Co.,30 West End Ave.
Haddonfield,NJ 08033 USA Ph 609 429 6260 Fax 609 429
0142
Peter Lynn Products,Team High Fly,Kite Building Supplies, Lazer Pro Line



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From:	andrew@tug.com (Andrew Beattie)
Subject: Re: Floats on Peter Lynn handles?
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organisation
Date:	Wed, 29 May 1996 20:52:32 -1000
Message-ID: <Ds7HrL.CGw@tug.com>

francis@blue.seas.upenn.edu (Francis J Gramkowski Iii) writes:
>Steve Bateman (bateman@mail.sdsu.edu) wrote:
>: just below the PL handles on the harness 
>: were what looked like floats, bouy looking things.  What are these for? 
>These floats are for boating.  When playing in surf the boat sometimes 
>flip over requiring that you release the kite.  These floats keep your 
>quick release handles from sinking.

Yes, but like everything else, it's got a flip-side.  If you're going
boating in anything more than a light breeze, you're going to want to use
hooks, to transfer the power to the boat.  The problem with the hooks is
that it limits your steering movement - when you've pulled the handle all
the way down to the hook, you can't go any further.  I take care to tie my
harness line to minimise this problem.  I use a fat rope, which I can just
manage to poke through the hole in the handle, then tie a stopper-knot
on the other side, so that the hook can slide all the way up to the handle.
A float throws all this out the window by chopping 2 or 3 inches of movement
off the end.

Andrew
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From:	andrewh@holly (Andrew Hawken)
Subject: Re: Floats on Peter Lynn handles?
Date:	Fri, 31 May 1996 04:41:05 -1000
Organization: Queen Mary & Westfield College, London, UK
Message-ID: <4on0e1$69a@epsilon.qmw.ac.uk>

Andrew Beattie (andrew@tug.com) wrote:

: I use a fat rope, which I can just
: manage to poke through the hole in the handle, then tie a stopper-knot
: on the other side, so that the hook can slide all the way up to the handle.
: A float throws all this out the window by chopping 2 or 3 inches of movement
: off the end.

With your set up, the float could go on the outside of the handle.  Better
still would be to make the handles themseves more buoyant. However, you could
always tie the handle to the boat!

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