From:	sc5@prism.gatech.edu (SPC)
Subject: Re: Box Kite Dimensions
Date:	Mon, 17 Jun 1996 04:20:33 -1000
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <4q3pjh$bn6@acmex.gatech.edu>

In article <31bc5255.4973458@NEWS.MOTHER.COM>,
John Gabby <KITEJAG@MOTHER.COM> wrote:
>I am looking for dimensions/proportions on a good old fashioned box
>kite.  I want to build a six foot tall kite but am very unsure of sail
>width (top to bottom of each cell) or length (distance between the
>longerons).  Any help would be most appreciated.
>
John,

I normally will keep everything equal on a box kite. So this would
mean a 2' X 2' panel (4 of them) with a 2' longeron on the next section
of the kite which is build to the same dimensions.

Many published plans have the cells more like 300r so of the 
over-all lenght of the kite. That would make for approx. a
21.5" X 21.5" cell with 29" between the cells. Some will
go down as far as 250f lenght making for 18" X 18" cells
and 36" between cells. 

In any case, the important thing to do with a box kite is
keep the face of the cells a square and the section of
the kite a square. 

Happy building,

Steve

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From:	KITEJAG@MOTHER.COM (John Gabby)
Subject: Box Kite Dimensions
Date:	Mon, 10 Jun 1996 06:55:13 -1000
Organization: Mother.COM
Message-ID: <31bc5255.4973458@NEWS.MOTHER.COM>

I am looking for dimensions/proportions on a good old fashioned box
kite.  I want to build a six foot tall kite but am very unsure of sail
width (top to bottom of each cell) or length (distance between the
longerons).  Any help would be most appreciated.

Thanks

John



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From:	sendan <sendan@aloha.net>
Subject: Re: Box Kite Dimensions
Date:	Mon, 17 Jun 1996 06:37:52 -1000
Organization: Hawaii OnLine - Honolulu, HI
Message-ID: <31C589E0.7024@aloha.net>

SPC wrote:
cut, snip, tear....
> 
> In any case, the important thing to do with a box kite is
> keep the face of the cells a square and the section of
> the kite a square.
> 
> Happy building,
> 
> Steve

I agree with the part about keeping the face of the kite square, but 
this means to me that the *diagonals* match.

		<     3 units     >
		-------------------
2	|\               /|
-	|   \         /   |
u	|      \   /      |
n	|        *        |
i	|      /   \      |<<<<sail (cell #1)
t	|   /         \   |
s	|/               \|
		-------------------
3	|                 |
-	|                 |
u	|                 |
n |                 |<<<Longerons
i	|                 |
t	|                 |
s	-------------------
		|\               /|
		|   \         /   |
		|      \   /      |
		|        *        |
		|      /   \      |
		|   /         \   |
		|/               \|
		-------------------

The face dimensions can be any size you want, 21" BY 21" or 21" by 
30", for example. I like to use a unit layout. 8" for instance. and 
make the each side 2 by 3 units, leave a space of 3 units between the 
cells. I like the proportions of doing it this way.

I've also had a lot of success with building my box kites with a 
diagonal section. Instead of making the spreaders so the kite ends up 
square (eg. for a box kite 24" on a side; aprox.33"), cut then to give 
you a diamond section.
              / | \
          /     x     \
      /_____y___|_________\
      \         |         /
          \     |     /
              \ | /
                B
If you make x about 1/2 the length of y, you end up with a nice 
dihedral, a good proportion, and a box kite that will fly in lighter 
winds. attach your bridle at point B.

I hope that this make sense to someone else besides me. It another 
one of those things that its easier to do than to draw in ascii.

aloha.
nathan
sendan

sendan@aloha.net

'oh my god, its early'



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From:	sendan <sendan@aloha.net>
Subject: Re: Box Kite Dimensions
Date:	Mon, 17 Jun 1996 06:44:34 -1000
Organization: Hawaii OnLine - Honolulu, HI
Message-ID: <31C58B72.3B1C@aloha.net>

SPC wrote:
cut, snip, tear....
> 
> In any case, the important thing to do with a box kite is
> keep the face of the cells a square and the section of
> the kite a square.
> 
> Happy building,
> 
> Steve

I agree with the part about keeping the face of the kite square, but 
this means to me that the *diagonals* match.

		<     3 units     >
		-------------------
2	|\               /|
-	|   \         /   |
u	|      \   /      |
n	|        *        |
i	|      /   \      |<<<<sail (cell #1)
t	|   /         \   |
s	|/               \|
		-------------------
3	|                 |
-	|                 |
u	|                 |
n |                 |<<<Longerons
i	|                 |
t	|                 |
s	-------------------
		|\               /|
		|   \         /   |
		|      \   /      |
		|        *        |
		|      /   \      |
		|   /         \   |
		|/               \|
		-------------------

The face dimensions can be any size you want, 21" BY 21" or 21" by 
30", for example. I like to use a unit layout. 8" for instance. and 
make the each side 2 by 3 units, leave a space of 3 units between the 
cells. I like the proportions of doing it this way.

I've also had a lot of success with building my box kites with a 
diagonal section. Instead of making the spreaders so the kite ends up 
square (eg. for a box kite 24" on a side; aprox.33"), cut then to give 
you a diamond section.
              / | \
          /     x     \
      /_____y___|_________\
      \         |         /
          \     |     /
              \ | /
                B
If you make x about 1/2 the length of y, you end up with a nice 
dihedral, a good proportion, and a box kite that will fly in lighter 
winds. attach your bridle at point B.

I hope that this make sense to someone else besides me. It another 
one of those things that its easier to do than to draw in ascii.

aloha.
nathan
sendan

sendan@aloha.net

'oh my god, its early'

forgive if this gets sent twice...
(damn internet! why doncha work right?)



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From:	sc5@prism.gatech.edu (SPC)
Subject: Re: Box Kite Dimensions
Date:	Tue, 18 Jun 1996 02:36:26 -1000
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <4q67sa$5f5@acmex.gatech.edu>

In article <31C589E0.7024@aloha.net>, sendan  <sendan@aloha.net> wrote:

>I've also had a lot of success with building my box kites with a 
>diagonal section. Instead of making the spreaders so the kite ends up 
>square (eg. for a box kite 24" on a side; aprox.33"), cut then to give 
>you a diamond section.

Yup, sure enough. 

But then again, making it into a diamond section transforms the kite
into a paralelogram kite and not a classic "box kite". '-)

Gentle breezes,

Steve

       ************************ aoxomoxoa ************************
       *     I'm not a participant in any organized hobby...     *   
       *                     I'm a kiteflier!                    *   
       *             (with appologies to Will Rogers)            *   
       http://server1.admin.gatech.edu/fac/steve/kiting/kiting.htm





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