From:	<kites-request@das.harvard.edu>
Date:	Sun, 18 Sep 1994 07:12:43 -1000
	From:	T.Hall<THALL0.000000E+00STEC.BITNET@netop8.harvard.edu>
Message-Id: <94261.181243THALL@ESTEC.BITNET>
Subject: Adding lights to flexifoil

Has anybody had any experience with attaching lights to flexifoils? Either LEDS
or bulbs.

Any feedback would  be appreciated



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Date:	Tue, 20 Sep 1994 17:51:18 -1000
From:	kitebaron@aol.com (Kite Baron)
Message-Id: <35oajm$12j@newsbf01.news.aol.com>
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Subject: Re: Adding lights to flexifoil

In article <94261.181243THALL@ESTEC.BITNET>, T. Hall <THALL@ESTEC.BITNET>
writes:
>Has anybody had any experience with attaching lights to flexifoils?
Either >LEDS
>or bulbs.

Well T, I haven't found a way with LEDs or bulbs but I do have a way to
light up at night.  I use the Cyalume novelty necklaces strung together
and slip them in the spar pocket.  It will make the whole kite glow
softly.  Couple this with the quiet flight of a Flexi at night and the UFO
people come out to watch.  The local police were sent to investigate one
night to see "what was up there".  When they found out it was me, they
stayed and watched.

Fly Safe.     Good winds.

Kite Baron --+--+--+--+--+--+--<>




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Date:	Sun, 25 Sep 1994 13:55:06 -1000
From:	pbc@ufl.edu (Philip Chase)
Message-Id: <pbc.13.2E860DDA@ufl.edu>
Organization: CIRCA, University of Florida
Subject: Re: Adding lights to flexifoil

In article <94261.181243THALL@ESTEC.BITNET> T. Hall <THALL@ESTEC.BITNET> writes:
>Date: Sun, 18 Sep 1994 18:12:43 MET
>From: T. Hall <THALL@ESTEC.BITNET>
>Subject: Adding lights to flexifoil

>Has anybody had any experience with attaching lights to flexifoils? Either LEDS
>or bulbs.

>Any feedback would  be appreciated

I've attached Vista lights to Flexi's.  In case you are not familiar, these 
are flashing LEDs mounted in a plastic case and sold to bikers and runners.  I 
have a single light clipped to one spar end twice.  IN high wind it works, but 
in low wind the balance is so bad the kite will want to turn toward the light. 
I would advise a symetric arrangement attached to each spar end. 

If you do choose the vista lights, they now make a very small one (3 cm in 
diameter) powered by watch batteries.  it is much lighter and a bit cheaper 
than the classic Vista bike light.

Another fun trick is to run some thin luminescent tubes partway into the spar 
pockets.  Use cable ties (wire ties) to affix each tube to a spar end.  The 
I flight the Flexi appears to have antennae coming off each end.  It's a nice 
effect.

Philip

Philip Chase              Ask me about the Power Kiting Web Page.
pbc@ufl.edu                 ------------------------------------
904-378-6893              Have any good power kiting info?  I would
FAX: 904-392-3760         like to put it on the power kiting page.


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Date:	Tue, 27 Sep 1994 01:55:25 -1000
From:	seanl@harlequin.co.uk (Sean Lange)
Message-Id: <SEANL.94Sep27125526@beaver.harlqn.co.uk>
Organization: Harlequin Ltd, Barrington Hall, Cambridge UK
Subject: Re: Adding lights to flexifoil


I've not flown a flexi at night, but I have with revolutions and dual line
stunters. I use the small snap and glow lights used by fishermen for
night fishing. They're very small and light-weight but very bright
and reasonable cost (about 40p each) - typically they last a full
evenings flying and some were still glowing next morning.
 They are even light enough to use on an indian fighter I have. Flying was near
impossible since with only one light on the nose it was very difficult
to determine the direction of flight.
Does anyone have experience of putting a bank of LEDs on a kite. I saw
a thing called a night stick (I think) at the Bristol Kite Fest
earlier this year, but would be interested if anyone has some first
hand experience.

-sean


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