Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 09:36:36 -1000 From: c.v.dunton@LaRC.NASA.GOV (Charlie Dunton) Message-Id: <2vs704$ilv@reznor.larc.nasa.gov> Organization: NASA, Langley Research Center Subject: A question of phonetics One of the problems with e-mail is that pronunciation is seldom provided. I have been building and flying rokkakus for a number of years, but it was not until I found Rec.Kites that I saw the term "Rok" used. My question: Is this pronounced with a long 'O' as in Rokkaku or with a short 'O' as in rock? An answer to such a profound question should be worth the echos of a thousand chanting Sanjo warriors. Charlie -- Charlie Dunton c.v.dunton@larc.nasa.gov May you never stand in the shadow of your kite. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 20:24:34 -1000 From: andrew@tug.com (Andrew Beattie) Message-Id: Organization: /usr/lib/news/organisation Subject: Re: A question of phonetics In article <2vs704$ilv@reznor.larc.nasa.gov> c.v.dunton@LaRC.NASA.GOV (Charlie Dunton) writes: >One of the problems with e-mail is that pronunciation is seldom >provided. I have been building and flying rokkakus for a number >of years, but it was not until I found Rec.Kites that I saw the >term "Rok" used. This may be because of fear of misspelling "rokkaku" :-) >My question: Is this pronounced with a long 'O' as in Rokkaku or >with a short 'O' as in rock? With a short "O" as in Anne Rock. Round these parts, rokkaku is pronounced with a kinda short 'O' too, more rock-ack-oo than row-cack-oo, so your mileage may vary. You owe the Kite Oracle a leather bound copy of "English as she is spoke". >An answer to such a profound question should be worth the echos >of a thousand chanting Sanjo warriors. The Kite Oracle acknowledges your groveling and laments the omission of such grovelling from other questions of late. Andrew -- Kite jumping is for morons. If you want to fly, get a hang-glider. Netiquette-of-the-day: Think twice before posting! You can FTP the kite FAQ's from ftp.hawaii.edu (directory /pub/rec/kites/faq) The FAQ's have lists of kites, kite stores, kite questions, kite books & plans. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 07:03:30 -1000 From: sasaki@das.harvard.edu (Marty Sasaki) Message-Id: Organization: Harvard University OIT/NSD Subject: Re: A question of phonetics In article , andrew@tug.com (Andrew Beattie) writes: >In article <2vs704$ilv@reznor.larc.nasa.gov> c.v.dunton@LaRC.NASA.GOV (Charlie Dunton) writes: >>One of the problems with e-mail is that pronunciation is seldom >>provided. I have been building and flying rokkakus for a number >>of years, but it was not until I found Rec.Kites that I saw the >>term "Rok" used. >This may be because of fear of misspelling "rokkaku" :-) > >>My question: Is this pronounced with a long 'O' as in Rokkaku or >>with a short 'O' as in rock? >With a short "O" as in Anne Rock. > >Round these parts, rokkaku is pronounced with a kinda short 'O' too, >more rock-ack-oo than row-cack-oo, so your mileage may vary. Most syllables in Japanese start with a consonant and end with a vowel. The exceptions are those syllables that are a single vowel. Emphasis on syllables is less than in other languages, some Japanese linguists claim that there are no emphasized syllables in words. Anyway, that makes rokkaku pronounced "ro-ka-koo", with a long o. I've heard Japanese emphasize either the first syllable, or the second syllable. Around here, the short form is pronounced "rock". -- Marty Sasaki Harvard University Sasaki Kite Fabrications sasaki@noc.harvard.edu Network Services Division 26 Green Street 617-496-4320 10 Ware Street Jamaica Plain, MA 02130 Cambridge, MA 02138-4002 phone/fax: 617-522-8546 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =