Fold in RTGDIR feedback (eckert).¶
Fold in unanswered questions from INTDIR review (Haberman):
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-bier-frr-08-intdir-telechat-haberman-2025-06-03/)¶
Section 6.1: Add text about PMTU when using tunnels (Evyncke DISCUSS). Although: RFC7490 which explicitly require stunnels also does not address tunnels MTU issues. Maybe attempt to declare MTU problem out of scope given how we're "just" doing something similar for BIER that several unicast RFCs are doing - without addressing MTU.¶
Check/remove unused references. Add text explaining benefits of reading reference
"Performance Comparison of Resilience Mechanisms for Stateless Multicast Using BIER" (aka: which pieces relevant to this draft does this research paper cover).¶
Add text about egress protection (Aka: node protection against BFER failure),
reference I-D.chen-bier-egress-protect (Roman Danilyv).¶
EVyncke: I fail to see the logical link between Typically, BIER packets are forwarded without an outer IP header.
and the consequence if a link or node failure occurs, the corresponding BFR Neighbor (BFR-NBR) becomes unreachable
. Strongly suggest adding some explanations. Answer: linkage is that BIER can not automatically use IP FRR but has to deal with unreachability events itself. But even if BIER was using per-hop IP/MPLS encap to rely on IP/MPLS FRR, then the result would not be as good as "direct" BIER-FRR. Text rewrite requires some restructuring.¶
EVyncke: Should a reference be provide for SR in If segment routing is employed
?¶
Evyncke: The last paragraph does not mention the 'explicit' forwarding action, is it on purpose ? If so, the read will welcome an explanation.¶
Ketan: major: Please provide a reference or explanation of "normal BIER-LFAs". Did
you mean RFC5286? Same goes for the other types - please provide references. TBD because text needs more structured rewrite of aligning the BIER behavior with the pre-defined unicast FRR terminology / cases.¶
Ketan: Is that IP-TI-LFA ? Same Q for TI-BIER-LFA. Need more structured rewrite of text...¶
Ketan: Isn't that 100% theoretical? Practically, there are limits of platform
and implementations. Also, all routers should be BFRs. Answer: No, should be as practically applicable as unicast TI-LFA is. There may be othrer platform limitations for BIER-FRR though.¶
DebCooley: The word 'tunnel' is used many times in this draft. There is no definition of what is meant by tunnel(s), I have to assume that they are not for security purposes. If they are specific types of tunnels, e.g. MPLS or other security tunnel options (IPsec), then it would be nice to have that defined. Yes: Need to define "tunnel" for the purpose of this ocument as an encapsulation of BIER packets into some unicast header that allows forwarding of the packet to a remote BFR. On the other hand, RFC like RFC7490 (RLFA in unicast) uses "tunnel" without explaininf/defining it.¶
Ketan: References to respective RFCs related to different types of LFA/FRR
unicast mechanisms would be helpful in this section as well. Yes!¶
All of Mohammeds IESG review (sorry, ran out of time).¶