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This question was asked (and answered) by someone else within the past 48
hours.  The answer is (still):

 |You can read about setting up the UNIX version of Pine to access a POP
 |server in the Pine Frequently Asked Questions guide:
 |
 |      http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/index.html

Cheers,

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On 30 Jun 1997, Kow Teik Same wrote:

> 
> 
> --
> Hi,
> 	Does anybody know if Pine support POP mail service, which is to 
> retrieve mail from other mail server ?
> I have an email address at other server and i want to know if there is 
> any possibility to retrive mails sent to that server to my Pine email 
> account. Welcome any suggestion ! 
> Is it practical to use mailing list software to do the above task ?
> 
> 
> rgrds,
> Sam
> 


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On 26 Jun 1997, Russell W. Behne wrote:

> How can I subscribe to the following news using pine?:
> 
> news://starnews.stardivision.com/stardivision.com.support.unix

You don't. It's not a newsgroup. I have NO idea what it is. It looks like
a messed up http URL. Should read "http://starnews..." Even when using a
browser to get news it would be "news:comp.mail.pine" 

		Be well and happy
			
			Geordi Byron (aka Arete)

		http://www.smart.net/~arete/classics

             [Please cc on-group replies personally to me]


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On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Vladimir Dyo wrote:

> Please tell me if there's a shell escape in Pine

Yes.









Control-Z (Suspend)  Good enough?


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We're running Dec Unix 4.0b and attempting to install iap-4.1.  All works
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Hello All.  I would like to see a size filter via ;

Mike.



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>Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 00:05:26 -0500 (EST)
>From: Geneseo Postmaster <POSTMASTER%UNO@uno.cc.geneseo.edu>
>Subject: can you help this girl? ~jon
>To: COLOCCIA@uno.cc.geneseo.edu
>X-VMS-To: COLOCCIA
>X-VMS-Cc:
>
>From:	IN%"klt99@uno.cc.geneseo.edu"  "Samantha Mulder" 22-JUN-1997
12:05:53.42
>To:	IN%"Postmaster@uno.cc.geneseo.edu"  "Pine Bug Report"
>CC:	
>Subj:	Bug (ID Y78PM): INBOX no messages...
>
>Return-path: <KLT99@uno.cc.geneseo.edu>
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> 22 Jun 1997 12:05:50 EST
>Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 12:05:50 -0500 (EST)
>From: Samantha Mulder <klt99@uno.cc.geneseo.edu>
>Subject: Bug (ID Y78PM): INBOX no messages...
>To: Pine Bug Report <Postmaster@uno.cc.geneseo.edu>
>Reply-to: Samantha Mulder <klt99@uno.cc.geneseo.edu>
>Message-id: <Pine.PMDF.3.95.970622115838.194130A-200000@uno.cc.geneseo.edu>
>Content-id: <Pine.PMDF.3.95.970622120007.194130E@uno.cc.geneseo.edu>
>MIME-version: 1.0
>Content-type: MULTIPART/MIXED;
BOUNDARY="Boundary_[ID_vCBpGN3xV7kUTrWSjyw9yg]"
>
>  This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,
>  while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.
>  Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info.
>
>--Boundary_[ID_vCBpGN3xV7kUTrWSjyw9yg]
>Content-id: <Pine.PMDF.3.95.970622120007.194130F@uno.cc.geneseo.edu>
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>
>Probably been seen before, but...this has happened to me a few times...
>
>Occasionally, when I get to the last message in my INBOX/NEWMAIL folder,
>I'll delete it and then e(X)punge (so the folder appears empty).  Then
>I'll hit (N)ext, to make sure no new mail has arrived that just hasn't
>shown up in the folder index yet, and Pine exits with the following
>message:
>
>Problem detected: "Bad msgno in mail_fetchstructure".
>Pine Exiting.
>$
>
>Please pass this message along to the appropriate person (I went to the
>bug report screen, and expected this to go to the Univ. of Washington, but
>I notice it's going to the Geneseo Postmaster instead...)
>
>Thank you,
>Kristen Tozer
>
>The Truth Is Out There; Trust No One except yourself to find that truth
>\/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/
>/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\
>      http://www.geneseo.edu/~klt99 **IWTBJLGAWIGU X SPCDD #20**
>
>--Boundary_[ID_vCBpGN3xV7kUTrWSjyw9yg]
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>
>Pine built 22-JAN-1997 11:05:13.29 on host: limpet.innosoft.com
>========== struct pine * ==========
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>userdom=	NULL
>maildom=	uno.cc.geneseo.edu
>cur_cntxt=	[]
>cur_fldr=	INBOX
>actual mbox=	NEWMAIL
>msgmap: tot=0, cur=0, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival
>inbox is mail_stream
>term type=, size=25x80, speed=normal
>======= Current_val options set =======
>        personal-name : Samantha Mulder
>              user-id : klt99
>          nntp-server : news.cc.geneseo.edu
>           inbox-path : NEWMAIL
>   folder-collections : local []
>     news-collections : *{news.cc.geneseo.edu/nntp}[]
>          default-fcc : ""
> default-saved-msg-fo : MAIL
>     postponed-folder : postponed-msgs
>       mail-directory : pine-mail
>  read-message-folder : MAIL
>       signature-file : pine.signature
>         address-book : pine.addressbook
>         feature-list : enable-aggregate-command-set
>                      : enable-alternate-editor-cmd
>                      : enable-bounce-cmd
>                      : enable-flag-cmd
>                      : enable-full-header-cmd
>                      : enable-jump-shortcut
>                      : enable-suspend
>                      : enable-tab-completion
>                      : news-approximates-new-status
>                      : signature-at-bottom
>                      : no-enable-suspend
>                      : quell-dead-letter-on-cancel
>  saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder
>        fcc-name-rule : default-fcc
>             sort-key : arrival
>   addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last
>        character-set : DEC-MCS
>               editor : EDIT/TPU
> composer-wrap-column : 74
>  reply-indent-string : > 
> empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients
>         image-viewer : pmdf_exe:xv.exe
> use-only-domain-name : no
>              printer : PRINT/DELETE
>     standard-printer : PRINT/DELETE
> last-time-prune-ques : 97.6
>    last-version-used : 3.95
>        bugs-fullname : Pine Bug Report
>         bugs-address : Postmaster
>     suggest-fullname : Pine Developers
>      suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu
>       local-fullname : Local Support
>        local-address : postmaster
>  kblock-passwd-count : 1
>       viewer-overlap : 2
>        scroll-margin : 0
> status-message-delay : 0
>  mail-check-interval : 150
>       elm-style-save : no
>      header-in-reply : no
>        feature-level : sapling
>      old-style-reply : no
>       save-by-sender : no
>======= Command_line_val options set =======
>======= User_val options set (USER3:[KLT99]pine.pinerc) =======
>        personal-name : Samantha Mulder
>          nntp-server : news.cc.geneseo.edu
>           inbox-path : NEWMAIL
>         feature-list : news-approximates-new-status
>                      : signature-at-bottom
>                      : no-enable-suspend
>                      : quell-dead-letter-on-cancel
> last-time-prune-ques : 97.6
>    last-version-used : 3.95
>======= Global_val options set (pmdf_table:pine.conf) =======
>           inbox-path : inbox
>   folder-collections : local []
>          default-fcc : ""
> default-saved-msg-fo : MAIL
>     postponed-folder : postponed-msgs
>       mail-directory : pine-mail
>  read-message-folder : MAIL
>       signature-file : pine.signature
>         address-book : pine.addressbook
>         feature-list : enable-aggregate-command-set
>                      : enable-alternate-editor-cmd
>                      : enable-bounce-cmd
>                      : enable-flag-cmd
>                      : enable-full-header-cmd
>                      : enable-jump-shortcut
>                      : enable-suspend
>                      : enable-tab-completion
>  saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder
>        fcc-name-rule : default-fcc
>             sort-key : arrival
>   addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last
>        character-set : DEC-MCS
>               editor : EDIT/TPU
> composer-wrap-column : 74
>  reply-indent-string : > 
> empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients
>         image-viewer : pmdf_exe:xv.exe
> use-only-domain-name : no
>              printer : PRINT/DELETE
>     standard-printer : PRINT/DELETE
>        bugs-fullname : Pine bug report
>         bugs-address : Postmaster
>     suggest-fullname : Pine Developers
>      suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu
>       local-fullname : Local Support
>        local-address : postmaster
>  kblock-passwd-count : 1
>       viewer-overlap : 2
>        scroll-margin : 0
> status-message-delay : 0
>  mail-check-interval : 150
>       elm-style-save : no
>      header-in-reply : no
>        feature-level : sapling
>      old-style-reply : no
>       save-by-sender : no
>======= Fixed_val options set (pmdf_table:pine.conf-fixed) =======
>        bugs-fullname : Pine Bug Report
>         bugs-address : Postmaster
>========== Feature settings ==========
>  no-allow-talk
>  no-assume-slow-link
>  no-auto-move-read-msgs
>  no-auto-open-next-unread
>  no-auto-zoom-after-select
>  no-auto-unzoom-after-apply
>  no-compose-cut-from-cursor
>  no-compose-maps-delete-key-to-ctrl-d
>  no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs
>  no-compose-send-offers-first-filter
>  no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm
>  no-delete-skips-deleted
>  no-disable-config-cmd
>  no-disable-default-in-bug-report
>  no-disable-busy-alarm
>  no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd
>  no-disable-keymenu
>  no-disable-password-cmd
>  no-disable-update-cmd
>  no-disable-signature-edit-cmd
>  no-enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation
>  no-enable-8bit-nntp-posting
>     enable-aggregate-command-set
>     enable-alternate-editor-cmd
>  no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly
>     enable-bounce-cmd
>  no-enable-cruise-mode
>  no-enable-cruise-mode-delete
>  no-enable-dot-files
>  no-enable-dot-folders
>     enable-flag-cmd
>  no-enable-flag-screen-implicitly
>     enable-full-header-cmd
>  no-enable-goto-in-file-browser
>  no-enable-incoming-folders
>     enable-jump-shortcut
>  no-enable-mail-check-cue
>  no-enable-mouse-in-xterm
>  no-enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon
>  no-enable-suspend
>     enable-tab-completion
>  no-enable-verbose-smtp-posting
>  no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks
>  no-expanded-view-of-distribution-lists
>  no-expanded-view-of-folders
>  no-expunge-without-confirm
>  no-fcc-on-bounce
>  no-include-attachments-in-reply
>  no-include-header-in-reply
>  no-include-text-in-reply
>     news-approximates-new-status
>  no-news-post-without-validation
>  no-news-read-in-newsrc-order
>  no-pass-control-characters-as-is
>  no-preserve-start-stop-characters
>  no-print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt
>  no-print-includes-from-line
>  no-print-index-enabled
>  no-print-formfeed-between-messages
>     quell-dead-letter-on-cancel
>  no-quell-lock-failure-warnings
>  no-quell-status-message-beeping
>  no-quit-without-confirm
>  no-reply-always-uses-reply-to
>  no-save-aggregates-copy-sequence
>  no-save-will-quote-leading-froms
>  no-save-will-not-delete
>  no-save-will-advance
>  no-select-without-confirm
>  no-show-cursor
>  no-show-selected-in-boldface
>     signature-at-bottom
>  no-single-column-folder-list
>  no-tab-visits-next-new-message-only
>  no-use-current-dir
>  no-use-function-keys
>  no-use-sender-not-x-sender
>  no-use-subshell-for-suspend
>========== Latest keystrokes ==========
>
>--Boundary_[ID_vCBpGN3xV7kUTrWSjyw9yg]--
>
==========================================================
Rick Coloccia			Residential Network Coordinator
124B1 South Hall		SUNY Geneseo 
Geneseo, NY 14454		coloccia@geneseo.edu
(716) 245-5577			http://www.geneseo.edu/~coloccia
==========================================================

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can u get me a mailbomb

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On 1 Jul 1997, Mike Robinson wrote:

> Am I missing something?  Can I somehow get the imap daemon to proxy NNTP requests?  I 
> mean, can I read news through Netscape or FreeAgent or something using the UW imapd????
> 

I haven't tried it with the other clients, but with Pine you can set

	news-collections={imapserver.domain}{newsserver.domain/nntp}[]

to have your news proxied by imapserver.domain.  Your .newsrc file
will be stored on imapserver.

Note:  You need to be running a quite recent version of the IMAP4 UW
imapd for this to work properly.  Older versions of the UW imapd
didn't quite work correctly.  You can get the current server from:

	ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.tar.Z

Good luck!

-- 
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On Sat, 28 Jun 1997 sysop@calcasieu.com wrote:
> 
> tap. tap.
> 
> calcas.sysop:$ pwd
> /ecs/bin/source/packages/mail/pine3.95/pine/osdep
> calcas.sysop:$ grep ALLOW *.h
> os-a32.h:/* #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM  /* comment out to not allow changing 
> From */
> os-a41.h:/* #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM  /* comment out to not allow changing 
> From */
> os-aix.h:/* #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM  /* comment out to not allow changing 
> From */
> os-asv.h:/* #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM  /* comment out to not allow changing 
> From */
> os-aux.h:/* #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM  /* comment out to not allow changing 
> From */
> os-bsd.h:/* #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM  /* comment out to not allow changing 
> From */
> .... etc.
> 
> in ../pine/osdep/os-xxx.h


Is Microsoft Windows one of the OS's in this list?  If so, has
anyone compiled PC Pine for Windows with ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM
uncommented and willing to put it on the Net?  I'd love to get a
hold of a copy of PC Pine for Windows that would allow me to have
the "From: " header show up in my default-composer-hdrs.  Then I
could change my From header on the fly while I'm in the
midst of composing a message.

Thanks,
Nancy aka
 nm@NoAdsPlease.ii.com
 faq-editor@NoAdsPlease.ii.com
 web-editor@NoAdsPlease.ii.com
 nancy@magoo.com
 admin@magoo.com
 ii@best.com
 magoo@best.com
 and many more...


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Bonnie Lee Kellogg wrote:
> 
> Check our new domain names!
> http://www.netforward.com
> v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
> 
> Today I tried using the Pine "suspend" command (Control Z).  It worked,
> kinda ... I couldn't figure out hwo to "un-suspend" the process and get
> back into Pine.  I when I tried "exit" I got a message that there were no
> suspended jobs; when I tried getting back into Pine I was told that it was
> already running.
> 
> Could someone please let me know by direct mail (as I don't read the
> newsgroup) how to correct whatever I did.
> 
> thanks.
> 
> bonnie kellogg
> 
>                  "He was born with the gift of laughter
>                   and a sense that the world was mad."
> 
> bonnie@kellco.com   http://www.kellco.com/bonnie  www.kellco.com
> 
> KELLCO Services, Inc.      ph: 510-659-9751    fax: 510-659-0147
> 44814 Osgood Road
> Fremont, CA  94539
> 
> Two Wheel Safety Training     ph: 510-659-8978    fax: 510-659-0147
> CMSP Approved Motorcycle Rider Instruction
> REMOVE......
> 
> 
> PLEASE TAKE US OFF YOUR LIST NOW!!!!
> 
> 
> THANKS FOR YOUR COOPERATION......
> REMOVE......
> 
> 
> PLEASE TAKE US OFF YOUR LIST NOW!!!!
> 
> 
> THANKS FOR YOUR COOPERATION......
> REMOVE......
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> 
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> 
> 
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> REMOVE......
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> 
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> 
> 
> THANKS FOR YOUR COOPERATION......
> REMOVE......
> 
> 
> PLEASE TAKE US OFF YOUR LIST NOW!!!!
> 
> 
> THANKS FOR YOUR COOPERATION......

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Craig Niederberger wrote:
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> Check our new domain names!
> http://www.netforward.com
> v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
> 
> Hi Pine gurus,
> 
> I'm running Pine 3.95 on Solaris 2.4.  I'd like to disable the feature
> that asks at the initiation of Pine, 'To save space, do you want to delete
> sent-mail-<month>'.  Does anyone know how to do that?
> 
> TIA,
> Craig
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ craign@uic.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Craig Niederberger MD FACS          | Chief, Division of Andrology
> University of Illinois at Chicago   | Director Urologic Basic Research
> Department of Urology M/C 958       | 312-996-2779   Fax: 312-996-1291
> 840 South Wood St, Chicago IL 60612 | http://godot.urol.uic.edu
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Steve Knechtly wrote:
> 
> --
> 
> Regards,
> 
>            Steve Knechtly, Systems Administrator
>            for Cincinnati Belting and Transmission.
> 
>                 Mailto:knechtly@cinbelt.com
> 
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Pico 2.9 problem
> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 16:48:15 -0400
> From: Steve Knechtly <knechtly@cinbelt.com>
> Organization: Cincinnati Belting and Transmission
> To: pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu
> 
> I am trying to port PICO 2.9 and ELM to my HP9000 G40
> running HP-UX 10.01.  We are running WYSE60 terminals (24 line
> display).  Everything works fine EXCEPT the arrow keys.
> Without this feature my users (100+) will be clueless on
> how to use the editor.  Can you give me some ideas on this ?
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> --
> 
> Regards,
> 
>            Steve Knechtly, Systems Administrator
>            for Cincinnati Belting and Transmission.
> 
>                 Mailto:knechtly@cinbelt.com
> 
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jackpot@ilnk.com wrote:
> 
> Bonnie Lee Kellogg wrote:
> >
> > Check our new domain names!
> > http://www.netforward.com
> > v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
> >
> > Today I tried using the Pine "suspend" command (Control Z).  It worked,
> > kinda ... I couldn't figure out hwo to "un-suspend" the process and get
> > back into Pine.  I when I tried "exit" I got a message that there were no
> > suspended jobs; when I tried getting back into Pine I was told that it was
> > already running.
> >
> > Could someone please let me know by direct mail (as I don't read the
> > newsgroup) how to correct whatever I did.
> >
> > thanks.
> >
> > bonnie kellogg
> >
> >                  "He was born with the gift of laughter
> >                   and a sense that the world was mad."
> >
> > bonnie@kellco.com   http://www.kellco.com/bonnie  www.kellco.com
> >
> > KELLCO Services, Inc.      ph: 510-659-9751    fax: 510-659-0147
> > 44814 Osgood Road
> > Fremont, CA  94539
> >
> > Two Wheel Safety Training     ph: 510-659-8978    fax: 510-659-0147
> > CMSP Approved Motorcycle Rider Instruction
> > REMOVE......
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> > REMOVE......
> >
> >
> > PLEASE TAKE US OFF YOUR LIST NOW!!!!
> >
> >
> > THANKS FOR YOUR COOPERATION......
> > REMOVE......
> >
> >
> > PLEASE TAKE US OFF YOUR LIST NOW!!!!
> >
> >
> > THANKS FOR YOUR COOPERATION......
> > REMOVE......
> >
> >
> > PLEASE TAKE US OFF YOUR LIST NOW!!!!
> >
> >
> > THANKS FOR YOUR COOPERATION......
> > REMOVE......
> >
> >
> > PLEASE TAKE US OFF YOUR LIST NOW!!!!
> >
> >
> > THANKS FOR YOUR COOPERATION......

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	I have e-mail accounts in two different servers, and I would like
to access both accounts from a single terminal session; what do I do?

					Thanks.

					Jaime Piña

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July  2nd. ,  1997

Dear Sir in charge:

Could you please tell me how to change my personal password in "bazooka"?

Many good wishes on your new coming days.Thanks a lot for your checking on
my letter this time.See you in the near future.


Sincerely yours,
Kang Zhaohua 
Nickname: Joanna
Mail Box 49, AIT
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On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Edward M Greshko wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, John Littlejohn wrote:
> 
> > Could someone please tell me how to print out something on pine.  I press
> > >Y< and the computer looks at all of the message and then nothing.
> 
> If you *really* want help you'll be more descriptive.  What kind of
> printer do you have?  

Hewlett Packard Laserjet 5L

> How is it connected to your system?

?

> What do you
> have in the setup for the print command?

This:

You may "Select" a print command as your default printer.
  You may also add custom print commands to the list in the "Personally"
  selected print command" section below.

    Default printer currently set to "attached-to-ansi".

 Printer attached to IBM PC or compatible, Macintosh *highlighted*
      This may not work with all attached printers, and will depend on the
      terminal emulation/communications software in use. It is known to
work
      with Kermit and the latest UW version of NCSA telnet on Macs and
PCs,
      Versaterm Pro on Macs, and WRQ Reflections on PCs.
        Printer: attached-to-ansi *highlighted*
                 attached-to-ansi-no-formfeed

 Standard UNIX print command
      Using this option may require setting your "PRINTER" or "LPDEST"
      environment variable using the standard UNIX utilities.
        Printer List: ""                      lpr                           

 Personally selected print command *highlighted*
      The text to be printed will be piped into the command given here.
The
      command is in the 2nd column, the printer name is in the first
column. Som
      examples are: "prt", "lpr", "lp", or "enscript". The command may be
given
      with options, for example "enscript -2 -r" or "lpr -Plpacc170". The
      commands and options on your system may be different from these
examples.
        Printer List:




Many thanks,
JL


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> What is "Dev/Null"

"ERROR" - you must not divide by a number with value zero.  AOL.COM - sheesh.

Sven

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hag@hp750.neurones.espci.fr (Howard Gutowitz):
> I'm trying to see if I should switch from elm to pine.
> One reason would be to get spell-checker implemented.

"get spell-checker implemented"?  Huh?  Both ELM and PINE have it.  *shrug*

> pine seems to make little distinction between the speller and the editor.
> I want lets say vi as my default editor, invoked automatically, and the
> option of doing a spell check with ispell once the message is edited.
> I see that I can get both functionalities if I invoke them each time
> (with ^_ (BAD name for a command, hard to type) ...

That's why people prefer newsreaders which allow key binding.  ;-)

> ... ^t (why not ^s ?) for alternate editor ...

The key ^S is usually defined for "stop"ping the terminal output.
Check with "stty -a" to see the start/stop keys.

> but if I set vi (say) to be the default editor, I can't get the cursor into
> the body of the message without invoking the editor and I want the speller.

You can call ispell from Vi - but Vi does not have an extra command for this.
It simply is different in this repect from pico, you see.

So - do you want to change Vi, Elm, or Pine?

Sven

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Marc.Roger@belnet.be (Marc Roger):
> I would find a centralized .newsrc file very interesting too.
> Could it be implemented in slrn ?

Yes.

Sven

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> Please tell me if there's a shell escape in Pine

Try ctrl-z.  "fg" to resume your pine.

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I also had the same problem, but mine says "error saving configuration
in file: no space"

I have no idea what configuration they are talking about, and i should 
have plenty of space in my files.  can someone help me with this?

thank you!

shirley


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I didn't know about the Unix "strip" command.  I have never used C in a
Unix environment. 

I am sorry to bore you with this stuff.


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In article <Pine.WNT.4.00.970621163036.-798481J-100000@tuppence_cac>,
gray@cac.washington.edu (Terry Gray) wrote:

> For comparison, on a DECstation or RS6000 the stripped binary is
> about 2MB.
> 
> -teg
> 
> On Sat, 21 Jun 1997, Felix Tilley wrote:
> 
> > Earlier today, I compiled the Pine 3.96 on a Hewlett-Packard Model 730
> > using HP-UX 9.x.  It came out to 6 Megs for the Pine binary.
> > 
> > Am I doing something wrong here?  Or is Pine going the way of Microsoft: 
> > The product doubles in size every 4 revisions.
> > 
> > Felix Tilley
> > 
> > ftilley@goodnet.com
> >

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On Sat, 21 Jun 1997, ase wrote:

> Long Story made short so as not to waste precios time:
> 
> 	1: Purchased Linux Universe 2 CD Distribution (1.2.13 kernel ?)
>         2: Almost fried my brain getting XF86Config file right for my setup
>         3: Finally got a X-top (X desktop :) )
>         4: Setup a PPP connection (cant use diald but thats OK) (whole 
> other story)
> 	5: plugged in pine 3.91 (came with distibution) and got it 
> working (sorta)
> 	6: ftp'd pine 3.96 source from UW (I went there for a quarter)
>         7: built it in /usr/local with 'build lnx'
>         8: saw some strange cc warnings but wasnt to worried (stable right?)
>         9: copied resultant bin files to /usr/bin (1 to usr/sbin/ "imapd?")
>        10: new pine [Can't connect to news.seanet.com,119: Unknown error]
>            (previous line between [] cut right out of pine 3.96)

That error message indicates that the difficulty was in connection to
your News server on the NNTP port (119).  I see that news.seanet.com
only allows connections from authorized hosts.  Have you verified that
your system has the proper authorization?

>        
> 
> 	So two ?'s:
> 		1) why 3.91 work and 3.96 not?
>                 2) i use a mailserver that uses a seperate address for
>                    outgoing and incoming mail. i.e. mx.seanet.com (out) and
>                    pop.seanet.com (in) (pop3?) how do I set this up w/ pine?
> 
> 

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Is there anything I have to set-up in order to
print from pine running under Windows NT. I can
print other apps i.e. Microsoft software, notepad,
from a DOS prompt, but when I print from pine,
it does a screen print. My printer is a HP 6p
laser printer attached locally to the LPT1 port.

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Mary Keller wrote:
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> I also had the same problem, but mine says "error saving configuration
> in file: no space"
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Mark wrote:
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> Is there anything I have to set-up in order to
> print from pine running under Windows NT. I can
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> from a DOS prompt, but when I print from pine,
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David L Miller wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 21 Jun 1997, ase wrote:
> 
> > Long Story made short so as not to waste precios time:
> >
> >       1: Purchased Linux Universe 2 CD Distribution (1.2.13 kernel ?)
> >         2: Almost fried my brain getting XF86Config file right for my setup
> >         3: Finally got a X-top (X desktop :) )
> >         4: Setup a PPP connection (cant use diald but thats OK) (whole
> > other story)
> >       5: plugged in pine 3.91 (came with distibution) and got it
> > working (sorta)
> >       6: ftp'd pine 3.96 source from UW (I went there for a quarter)
> >         7: built it in /usr/local with 'build lnx'
> >         8: saw some strange cc warnings but wasnt to worried (stable right?)
> >         9: copied resultant bin files to /usr/bin (1 to usr/sbin/ "imapd?")
> >        10: new pine [Can't connect to news.seanet.com,119: Unknown error]
> >            (previous line between [] cut right out of pine 3.96)
> 
> That error message indicates that the difficulty was in connection to
> your News server on the NNTP port (119).  I see that news.seanet.com
> only allows connections from authorized hosts.  Have you verified that
> your system has the proper authorization?
> 
> >
> >
> >       So two ?'s:
> >               1) why 3.91 work and 3.96 not?
> >                 2) i use a mailserver that uses a seperate address for
> >                    outgoing and incoming mail. i.e. mx.seanet.com (out) and
> >                    pop.seanet.com (in) (pop3?) how do I set this up w/ pine?
> >
> >
> 
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Felix Tilley wrote:
> 
> I didn't know about the Unix "strip" command.  I have never used C in a
> Unix environment.
> 
> I am sorry to bore you with this stuff.
> 
> If you prefer to reply via email, my real address is below:
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> In article <Pine.WNT.4.00.970621163036.-798481J-100000@tuppence_cac>,
> gray@cac.washington.edu (Terry Gray) wrote:
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> > For comparison, on a DECstation or RS6000 the stripped binary is
> > about 2MB.
> >
> > -teg
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> > On Sat, 21 Jun 1997, Felix Tilley wrote:
> >
> > > Earlier today, I compiled the Pine 3.96 on a Hewlett-Packard Model 730
> > > using HP-UX 9.x.  It came out to 6 Megs for the Pine binary.
> > >
> > > Am I doing something wrong here?  Or is Pine going the way of Microsoft:
> > > The product doubles in size every 4 revisions.
> > >
> > > Felix Tilley
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Dear pine-users,

How to use rules to filter in-coming mails using pine like Pmail. I use 
pine in unix system.

Thank you!

j bai

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I've modified the imapd server (version 4.4) to work with DCE (I'm
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files around after the imapd disconnects. This is causing the
/opt/dcelocal/var/security/creds to fill up unnecessarily.

Does anyone else have a version of imapd for DCE that does a better
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Just a test!



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>> In article <5pgepe$4d2$1@dux.dundee.ac.uk>, jbai@dux.dundee.ac.uk
>> (J. Bai Civil Engineering) writes: 

JBCE> Dear pine-users, How to use rules to filter in-coming mails
JBCE> using pine like Pmail. I use pine in unix system.

RTFM =8-0

  How can I filter messages into different incoming folders?
   Pine does not perform delivery filtering; that is the function of
   other programs, such as (on Unix hosts) "procmail" or "mailagent." 


man procmail
man emil
man filter
man mailagent


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I've been using Pine for a couple of years from a unix environment and
just downloaded a copy that is for the PC/windows world.  I admit, I'm
having trouble translating the unix info into PC info.  Specifically,
i am trying to configure the INBOX so I can receive and send mail.  I
am hooked to a PPP account, but all the examples in text are for
someonw who is getting mail from a university unix server.  Anyone
using PINE from a windows-based PC who has configuration info will be
much appreciated.  I enjoy PINE, but need some translation assistance.
thanks to all.   david

David        d.s.kirk@ix.netcom.com
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Folks,

Howdy.  I hope this posting finds folks doing well.

A few weeks ago I was introduced to the MH style of mail.  Some folks I
know have a pretty sweet setup using glimpse/MH style/emacs MH/WWW etc.  I
was intriqued by the MH style since I had not previously had experience
with it.

A posting within the last couple of weeks alluded to the fact that Pine
supports MH style mail.  I looked around the on-line documentation, the man
pages as well as the UW Pine information site for more information on how
to configure Pine for MH style mail.  The only blurb I could find about MH
was from the technical notes on the UW WWW site:

       A folder is a group of messages. The default format used by Unix
       Pine is the Berkeley mail format. It is also used by the standard
       mail command and by elm. Unix Pine also understands message folders
       in other formats, such as Tenex, MH, MMDF, Carmel, and Netnews. (For
       more information about the carmel format, see the directory
       ./contrib/carmel in the Pine distribution.)

I'm hoping that there is some technical documentation out there on how to
setup MH style mail that I just haven't come across.  I'd appreciate any
such pointers.  In the case that there is no more documentation, I'd
appreciate any tips/hints on how to set it up and what I need to be aware
of in making the transition from Berkley to MH.

Thanks in advance for all assistance.

Peace.

jte

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>> On Thu, 3 Jul 1997 13:25:02 +0200, Justine Bhandary 5124
>> <bhandary@ties.itu.int> said:

JB5> Hello, Are there any general/detailed guidelines regarding the
JB5> use of the Pipe command under Unix-Pine? 

Since this might be of general interest (are you with me Dos-lusers?
This is what you're missing...) --- man pipe:

PIPE(2)             Linux Programmer's Manual             PIPE(2)
NAME
       pipe - create pipe
SYNOPSIS
       #include <unistd.h>
       int pipe(int filedes[2]);
DESCRIPTION
       pipe  creates  a  pair  of file descriptors, pointing to a
       pipe inode, and places them in the  array  pointed  to  by
       filedes.   filedes[0]  is  for  reading, filedes[1] is for
       writing.
RETURN VALUE
       On success, zero is returned.  On error, -1  is  returned,
       and errno is set appropriately.
[...]
SEE ALSO
       read(2), write(2), fork(2), socketpair(2)        

JB5> I've carried out some preliminary tests but I feel I'm not making
JB5> the most of it.  

Robert de Bath (I guess the spelling's wrong - sorry, Robert :-/)
posted a very nice script a couple of months ago that utilises the
pipe command to start lynx "within" pine. Check the archive for it and 
you'll see how the pipe command can be used sensibly.

JB5> Also, I've failed to find much information on this in the FAQ and
JB5> would appreciate some feedback.

There's a nice example in the faq that actually covers everything you
need to understand _if_ you know how to do shell scripts or perl ;-) 

Get yourself a comfortable chair, a few packets of crisps, some Coke
and then say:

	man bash

or whatever shell you're using. Using the pipe is in fact the easy
part >;->

Later,
Robin


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>> Michael  said on Thu, 03 Jul 1997 14:23:35 GMT:

M> How can I access my University Pine account using Eudora?
M> http://www.lsu.edu
M> I was told there was no pop server.  Can anyone help

Well, you don't have a "pine" account, but probably a u*ix account. If 
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Morten Holck wrote:
> 
> A little while back, I was browsing these newsgroups, just like you
> are
> now, and came across an article similar to this that said you could
> make
> thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial investment of
> $5.00!  So I thought, "Yeah, right, this must be a scam," but like
> most
> of us I was curious, so I kept reading.  Anyway, it said that you send
> $1.00 to each of the 5 names and addresses stated in the article.  You
> then place your own name and address on the bottom of the list at #5,
> and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups.  (There are
> thousands)
> No catch, that was it.
> 
> So after thinking it over, and talking to a few people first, I
> thought
> about trying it.  I figured what have I got to lose except 5 stamps
> and
> $5.00, right?
> 
> Like most of us I was a little skeptical and a little worried about
> the
> legal aspects of it all.  So I checked it out with my country Post
> Office, and other had with US Post (800-725-2161) and they confirmed
> that it is indeed legal!
> 
> Then I invested the measly $5.00…
> 
> Well GUESS WHAT!!… Within 7 days, I started getting money in the mail!
> 
> I was shocked!  I still figured it would end soon, and didn't give it
> another thought.  But the money just kept coming in.  In my first week
> I
> made about $20.00 to $30.00.  By the end of the 2nd week I had made a
> total of over $1,000.00!!!!!  In the 3rd week I had over $10,000.00
> and
> it's still growing.  This is now my 4th week and I have made a total
> of
> just over $42,000.00 and it's still coming in…
> 
> It's certainly worth the $5.00 and the 5 stamps, I spent more than
> that
> on the lottery!!  Let me tell you how this works and most importantly,
> WHY.  Also, make sure you print a cop of this article NOW, so you can
> get the information off of it, as you need it.  The process is very
> simple and consists of 3 easy steps:
> 
> STEP 1:  Get  5 separate pieces of paper and write the following on
> each
> piece of paper "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST."  Now get 5 $1.00
> bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 5 pieces of paper so the bill
> will not be seen through the envelope to prevent thievery.  Next place
> one paper in each of the 5 envelopes and seal them.  You should now
> have
> 5 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the above
> phrase
> and $1.00.  What you are doing is creating a service by this.  THIS IS
> PERFECTL LEGAL!
> 
> Mail the 5 envelopes to the following addresses:
> 
> #1 H.J. Sung
> 1839 Keeaumoku St.
> Honolulu, HI 96822-3004
> 
> #2  Eric Normand
> 1707 Esplanade Ave.
> New Orleans, La 70116
> 
> #3  Luca Reni
> 28313 Bonnie View Ave.
> Canyon Country, CA 91351
> 
> #4 Morten Holck
> Skejbyvej 269
> 8240 Risskov
> Denmark,Europe
> 
> #5 Sami Kosonen
> Isopallinkatu 15 A 2
> 53300 Lappeenranta
> Finland
>
> STEP 2:  Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move
> the
> other names up (5 becomes4, 4 becomes 3, etc…) and add YOUR name as #5
> on the list.
> 
> STEP 3:  Change anything you need to but try to keep this article as
> close to original as possible.  Now, post you amended article to at
> least 200 newsgroups.  (I think there is close to 25,000 groups) ALL
> you
> need is 200, but remember, the more you post the more money you make!
> 
> Don't know how to post in the newsgroups? Well, do exactly the
> following:
> 
> FOR NETSCAPE USERS:
> 1) Click on any newsgroup, like normal. Then click on "To News", which
> is on the top left hand corner of the newsgroup page. This will bring
> up
> a message box.
> 2) Fill in the SUBJECT with a flashy title, like the one I used,
> something to catch the eye!!!
> 3) Now go to the message part of the box and retype this letter
> exactly
> as it is here, with the exception of your few changes. (Remember to
> add
> your name to #5 and move the rest up)
> 4) When you're done typing the whole letter click on "FILE" above the
> send button. Then "SAVE AS"
> DO NOT SEND YOUR ARTICLE UNTIL YOU SAVE IT.  (so you don't have to
> type
> this 200 times)
> 5) Now that you have saved the letter, go ahead and send your first
> copy!  (click the "send" button in the top left corner)
> 6) This is where you post all 200!  Okay, go to ANY newsgroup article
> and click the "TO NEWS" button again, Type in your flashy subject in
> the
> "SUBJECT BOX," then go to the message and place your cursor here.  Now
> click on "ATTACHMENT" which is right below the "SUBJECT BOX."  Click
> on
> "ATTACH FILE" then find you letter wherever you saved it.  Click once
> on
> your file then click "OPEN" then click "OK."  If  you did this right,
> you should see your filename in the "ATTACHMENT BOX" and it will be
> shaded.
> 7) NOW POST AWAY!!!
> 
> FOR INTERNET EXPLORER:
> It's just as easy, holding down the left mouse button, highlight this
> entire article, then press the "CTRL" key and "C" key at the same time
> to copy this article.  Then print the article for your records to have
> the names of those you will be sending $1.00 to.
> 
> Go to the newsgroups and press "POST AN ARTICLE" type in your flashy
> subject and click the large window below.  Press "CTRL" and "V" and
> the
> article will appear in the message window.  **BE SURE TO MAKE YOUR
> ADDRESS CHANGES TO THE 5 NAMES.**  Now re-highlight the article and
> re-copy it so you have the changes…then all you have to do for each
> newsgroup is "CTRL" and "V" and press "POST."  It is that easy!!!
> THAT'S IT!  All you have to do is jump to different newsgroups and
> post
> away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about 30 seconds for
> each newsgroup!
> 
> **REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL
> MAKE!!  BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200.**
> 
> **If these instructions are too complex to follow, try Forte's "Free
> Agent."  It is a freeware for noncommercial use.  To download it,
> simply
> use a search utility and type "Forte Free Agent."  You should be able
> to
> find it.**
> 
> That's it!!  You will begin receiving money from around the world
> within
> days!  You may eventually want to rent a P. O. Box due to the large
> amount of mail you receive.  If you wish to stay anonymous, you can
> invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it.
> 
> **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT**
> 
******************************************************************************
********
> Now the WHY part:
> 
> Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low
> example).
> So then I made $5.00 with my name at #5 on the letter.  Now, each of
> the
> 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200 postings, each
> with my name at #4 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original
> 5,
> that is another $25.00 for me.  Now those 25 persons each make 200
> MINIMUM postings with my name at #3 and only 5 persons respond to each
> of them, I will bring in an additional $125.00!!!  Now, those 125
> persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #2 and
> only
> receive 5 replies each, I will make and additional $626.00!!  Okay,
> now
> here is the fun part each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200
> letters with my name at #1 and they each only receive 5 replies, that
> just made me $3,125.00!!!!  With an original investment of only $5.00!
> 
> AMAZING!  And as I said % responses is actually Very Low!  Average is
> probably 20 to 30! So lets put those figures at just 15 responses per
> person.  Here is what you will make:
> 
> At #5… $15.00
> At #4… $225.00
> At #3… $3,375.00
> At #2… $50,625.00
> At #1… $759,375.00
> 
> When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest
> posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $5.00 to names on the
> list, putting your name at #5 again.  And start posting again.  The
> thing to remember is that thousands of people all over the world are
> joining the Internet and reading these articles everyday.  JUST LIKE
> YOU
> are now!!!  So can you afford $5.00 and see if it really works??  I
> think so… People have said, "What if the plan is played out and no one
> sends you the money?"  So What!  What are the chances of that
> happening
> when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are
> joining the Internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to give
> it
> a try?  Estimates are at 20,00 to 50,00 new users, everyday, with
> thousands of those joining the actual Internet.  Remember, play FAIRLY
> and HONESTLY and this will work.  You just have to be honest.  Make
> sure
> you print this article out RIGHT NOW.  Try to keep a list of everyone
> that sends you money and always keep an eye on the newsgroups to make
> sure everyone is playing fairly.
> 
> Remember, HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY.  You don't need to cheat the
> basic
> idea to make to money!!
> 
> GOOD LUCK to all and please play fairly and reap the huge rewards from
> this, which is tons of extra CASH.  **BY the way, if you try to
> deceive
> people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not
> sending the money to the rest of the people already on the list, you
> will NOT get as much.**  Someone I talked to knew someone who did that
> and he only made about $150.00, and that's after seven or eight weeks!
> 
> Then he sent the 5 $1.00 bills, people added him to their lists, and
> in
> 4-5 weeks he had over $10k.
> 
> This is the fairest and most honest way I have ever seen to share the
> wealth of the world without costing anything but our time!!!
> 
> Don't listen to the people that don't trust it and continue to say
> it's
> illegal and does not work… They are just skeptics.  You also may want
> to
> buy mailing and e-mail lists for future dollars.
> 
> Please remember to declare your extra income.  Thanks once again…

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This message is being sent to this mailing list weekly in order to
aid readers in finding information about Pine.  Before sending questions 
to the mailing list -- which is mirrored in the newsgroup comp.mail.pine --
please consult these resources:

The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive
help.  Additional information, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, 
Questions & Answers, where to obtain the Pine software, what tools are 
available to perform tasks that Pine itself does not, and more, can be 
accessed:

     - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL:
       http://www.washington.edu/pine/

     - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the
       subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the
       documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form.

     - The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can
       also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection
       (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to
       folder-collections and choose Add Value) as:
            *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[]
    

The messages from this mailing list/newsgroup are archived.  These archives
can be accessed:

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        on how to subscribe to this mailing list)

     - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the
       subdirectory /pine/pine-info/.

     - From within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN
       MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and 
       choose Add Value) as:
            *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[]

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and you can find the answer either through the searchable index of past
messages, or among the "Questions & Answers" at the URL: 

http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/ 
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ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt

If you need personal assistance with using or configuring Pine, contact
the technical support staff or computer help desk of your Internet Service
Provider, school, university, employer, ... -- whichever organization
provided you with the email account on which you are using, or planning on
using, Pine.  Because system functions and configuration can vary from
site to site, they are best qualified to assist you.  (Due to the large
number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington
cannot provide individual support services to Pine users at other
organizations.)

Sun Jul  6 03:00:05 PDT 1997

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pine-robot@docserver.cac.washington.edu wrote:
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> This message is being sent to this mailing list weekly in order to
> aid readers in finding information about Pine.  Before sending questions
> to the mailing list -- which is mirrored in the newsgroup comp.mail.pine --
> please consult these resources:
> 
> The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive
> help.  Additional information, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes,
> Questions & Answers, where to obtain the Pine software, what tools are
> available to perform tasks that Pine itself does not, and more, can be
> accessed:
> 
>      - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL:
>        http://www.washington.edu/pine/
> 
>      - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the
>        subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the
>        documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form.
> 
>      - The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can
>        also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection
>        (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to
>        folder-collections and choose Add Value) as:
>             *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[]
> 
> 
> The messages from this mailing list/newsgroup are archived.  These archives
> can be accessed:
> 
>      - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL:
>        http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
>        (includes a searchable index of all archived messages, and information
>         on how to subscribe to this mailing list)
> 
>      - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the
>        subdirectory /pine/pine-info/.
> 
>      - From within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN
>        MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and
>        choose Add Value) as:
>             *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[]
> 
> If you have a question about Pine, chances are it has been asked before
> and you can find the answer either through the searchable index of past
> messages, or among the "Questions & Answers" at the URL:
> 
> http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/
>   or
> ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt
> 
> If you need personal assistance with using or configuring Pine, contact
> the technical support staff or computer help desk of your Internet Service
> Provider, school, university, employer, ... -- whichever organization
> provided you with the email account on which you are using, or planning on
> using, Pine.  Because system functions and configuration can vary from
> site to site, they are best qualified to assist you.  (Due to the large
> number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington
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> organizations.)
> 
> Sun Jul  6 03:00:05 PDT 1997
> 
>  -----------------------------------
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David Hansen wrote:
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> This problem was fixed with release of v.3.0.2 of SMTPGATE.EXE.  Refer to Q100352.
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David wrote:
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> I've been using Pine for a couple of years from a unix environment and
> just downloaded a copy that is for the PC/windows world.  I admit, I'm
> having trouble translating the unix info into PC info.  Specifically,
> i am trying to configure the INBOX so I can receive and send mail.  I
> am hooked to a PPP account, but all the examples in text are for
> someonw who is getting mail from a university unix server.  Anyone
> using PINE from a windows-based PC who has configuration info will be
> much appreciated.  I enjoy PINE, but need some translation assistance.
> thanks to all.   david
> 
> David        d.s.kirk@ix.netcom.com
> ____________________________________

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ThuyTrang Dao wrote:
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> Just a test!
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> M> How can I access my University Pine account using Eudora?
> M> http://www.lsu.edu
> M> I was told there was no pop server.  Can anyone help
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> you don't have pop or imap (or whatever), you won't be able to use
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> Morten Holck wrote:
> >
> > A little while back, I was browsing these newsgroups, just like you
> > are
> > now, and came across an article similar to this that said you could
> > make
> > thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial investment of
> > $5.00!  So I thought, "Yeah, right, this must be a scam," but like
> > most
> > of us I was curious, so I kept reading.  Anyway, it said that you send
> > $1.00 to each of the 5 names and addresses stated in the article.  You
> > then place your own name and address on the bottom of the list at #5,
> > and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups.  (There are
> > thousands)
> > No catch, that was it.
> >
> > So after thinking it over, and talking to a few people first, I
> > thought
> > about trying it.  I figured what have I got to lose except 5 stamps
> > and
> > $5.00, right?
> >
> > Like most of us I was a little skeptical and a little worried about
> > the
> > legal aspects of it all.  So I checked it out with my country Post
> > Office, and other had with US Post (800-725-2161) and they confirmed
> > that it is indeed legal!
> >
> > Then I invested the measly $5.00…
> >
> > Well GUESS WHAT!!… Within 7 days, I started getting money in the mail!
> >
> > I was shocked!  I still figured it would end soon, and didn't give it
> > another thought.  But the money just kept coming in.  In my first week
> > I
> > made about $20.00 to $30.00.  By the end of the 2nd week I had made a
> > total of over $1,000.00!!!!!  In the 3rd week I had over $10,000.00
> > and
> > it's still growing.  This is now my 4th week and I have made a total
> > of
> > just over $42,000.00 and it's still coming in…
> >
> > It's certainly worth the $5.00 and the 5 stamps, I spent more than
> > that
> > on the lottery!!  Let me tell you how this works and most importantly,
> > WHY.  Also, make sure you print a cop of this article NOW, so you can
> > get the information off of it, as you need it.  The process is very
> > simple and consists of 3 easy steps:
> >
> > STEP 1:  Get  5 separate pieces of paper and write the following on
> > each
> > piece of paper "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST."  Now get 5 $1.00
> > bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 5 pieces of paper so the bill
> > will not be seen through the envelope to prevent thievery.  Next place
> > one paper in each of the 5 envelopes and seal them.  You should now
> > have
> > 5 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the above
> > phrase
> > and $1.00.  What you are doing is creating a service by this.  THIS IS
> > PERFECTL LEGAL!
> >
> > Mail the 5 envelopes to the following addresses:
> >
> > #1 H.J. Sung
> > 1839 Keeaumoku St.
> > Honolulu, HI 96822-3004
> >
> > #2  Eric Normand
> > 1707 Esplanade Ave.
> > New Orleans, La 70116
> >
> > #3  Luca Reni
> > 28313 Bonnie View Ave.
> > Canyon Country, CA 91351
> >
> > #4 Morten Holck
> > Skejbyvej 269
> > 8240 Risskov
> > Denmark,Europe
> >
> > #5 Sami Kosonen
> > Isopallinkatu 15 A 2
> > 53300 Lappeenranta
> > Finland
> >
> > STEP 2:  Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move
> > the
> > other names up (5 becomes4, 4 becomes 3, etc…) and add YOUR name as #5
> > on the list.
> >
> > STEP 3:  Change anything you need to but try to keep this article as
> > close to original as possible.  Now, post you amended article to at
> > least 200 newsgroups.  (I think there is close to 25,000 groups) ALL
> > you
> > need is 200, but remember, the more you post the more money you make!
> >
> > Don't know how to post in the newsgroups? Well, do exactly the
> > following:
> >
> > FOR NETSCAPE USERS:
> > 1) Click on any newsgroup, like normal. Then click on "To News", which
> > is on the top left hand corner of the newsgroup page. This will bring
> > up
> > a message box.
> > 2) Fill in the SUBJECT with a flashy title, like the one I used,
> > something to catch the eye!!!
> > 3) Now go to the message part of the box and retype this letter
> > exactly
> > as it is here, with the exception of your few changes. (Remember to
> > add
> > your name to #5 and move the rest up)
> > 4) When you're done typing the whole letter click on "FILE" above the
> > send button. Then "SAVE AS"
> > DO NOT SEND YOUR ARTICLE UNTIL YOU SAVE IT.  (so you don't have to
> > type
> > this 200 times)
> > 5) Now that you have saved the letter, go ahead and send your first
> > copy!  (click the "send" button in the top left corner)
> > 6) This is where you post all 200!  Okay, go to ANY newsgroup article
> > and click the "TO NEWS" button again, Type in your flashy subject in
> > the
> > "SUBJECT BOX," then go to the message and place your cursor here.  Now
> > click on "ATTACHMENT" which is right below the "SUBJECT BOX."  Click
> > on
> > "ATTACH FILE" then find you letter wherever you saved it.  Click once
> > on
> > your file then click "OPEN" then click "OK."  If  you did this right,
> > you should see your filename in the "ATTACHMENT BOX" and it will be
> > shaded.
> > 7) NOW POST AWAY!!!
> >
> > FOR INTERNET EXPLORER:
> > It's just as easy, holding down the left mouse button, highlight this
> > entire article, then press the "CTRL" key and "C" key at the same time
> > to copy this article.  Then print the article for your records to have
> > the names of those you will be sending $1.00 to.
> >
> > Go to the newsgroups and press "POST AN ARTICLE" type in your flashy
> > subject and click the large window below.  Press "CTRL" and "V" and
> > the
> > article will appear in the message window.  **BE SURE TO MAKE YOUR
> > ADDRESS CHANGES TO THE 5 NAMES.**  Now re-highlight the article and
> > re-copy it so you have the changes…then all you have to do for each
> > newsgroup is "CTRL" and "V" and press "POST."  It is that easy!!!
> > THAT'S IT!  All you have to do is jump to different newsgroups and
> > post
> > away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about 30 seconds for
> > each newsgroup!
> >
> > **REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL
> > MAKE!!  BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200.**
> >
> > **If these instructions are too complex to follow, try Forte's "Free
> > Agent."  It is a freeware for noncommercial use.  To download it,
> > simply
> > use a search utility and type "Forte Free Agent."  You should be able
> > to
> > find it.**
> >
> > That's it!!  You will begin receiving money from around the world
> > within
> > days!  You may eventually want to rent a P. O. Box due to the large
> > amount of mail you receive.  If you wish to stay anonymous, you can
> > invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it.
> >
> > **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT**
> >
> ******************************************************************************
> ********
> > Now the WHY part:
> >
> > Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low
> > example).
> > So then I made $5.00 with my name at #5 on the letter.  Now, each of
> > the
> > 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200 postings, each
> > with my name at #4 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original
> > 5,
> > that is another $25.00 for me.  Now those 25 persons each make 200
> > MINIMUM postings with my name at #3 and only 5 persons respond to each
> > of them, I will bring in an additional $125.00!!!  Now, those 125
> > persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #2 and
> > only
> > receive 5 replies each, I will make and additional $626.00!!  Okay,
> > now
> > here is the fun part each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200
> > letters with my name at #1 and they each only receive 5 replies, that
> > just made me $3,125.00!!!!  With an original investment of only $5.00!
> >
> > AMAZING!  And as I said % responses is actually Very Low!  Average is
> > probably 20 to 30! So lets put those figures at just 15 responses per
> > person.  Here is what you will make:
> >
> > At #5… $15.00
> > At #4… $225.00
> > At #3… $3,375.00
> > At #2… $50,625.00
> > At #1… $759,375.00
> >
> > When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest
> > posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $5.00 to names on the
> > list, putting your name at #5 again.  And start posting again.  The
> > thing to remember is that thousands of people all over the world are
> > joining the Internet and reading these articles everyday.  JUST LIKE
> > YOU
> > are now!!!  So can you afford $5.00 and see if it really works??  I
> > think so… People have said, "What if the plan is played out and no one
> > sends you the money?"  So What!  What are the chances of that
> > happening
> > when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are
> > joining the Internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to give
> > it
> > a try?  Estimates are at 20,00 to 50,00 new users, everyday, with
> > thousands of those joining the actual Internet.  Remember, play FAIRLY
> > and HONESTLY and this will work.  You just have to be honest.  Make
> > sure
> > you print this article out RIGHT NOW.  Try to keep a list of everyone
> > that sends you money and always keep an eye on the newsgroups to make
> > sure everyone is playing fairly.
> >
> > Remember, HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY.  You don't need to cheat the
> > basic
> > idea to make to money!!
> >
> > GOOD LUCK to all and please play fairly and reap the huge rewards from
> > this, which is tons of extra CASH.  **BY the way, if you try to
> > deceive
> > people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not
> > sending the money to the rest of the people already on the list, you
> > will NOT get as much.**  Someone I talked to knew someone who did that
> > and he only made about $150.00, and that's after seven or eight weeks!
> >
> > Then he sent the 5 $1.00 bills, people added him to their lists, and
> > in
> > 4-5 weeks he had over $10k.
> >
> > This is the fairest and most honest way I have ever seen to share the
> > wealth of the world without costing anything but our time!!!
> >
> > Don't listen to the people that don't trust it and continue to say
> > it's
> > illegal and does not work… They are just skeptics.  You also may want
> > to
> > buy mailing and e-mail lists for future dollars.
> >
> > Please remember to declare your extra income.  Thanks once againÖ

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> Folks,
> 
> Howdy.  I hope this posting finds folks doing well.
> 
> A few weeks ago I was introduced to the MH style of mail.  Some folks I
> know have a pretty sweet setup using glimpse/MH style/emacs MH/WWW etc.  I
> was intriqued by the MH style since I had not previously had experience
> with it.
> 
> A posting within the last couple of weeks alluded to the fact that Pine
> supports MH style mail.  I looked around the on-line documentation, the man
> pages as well as the UW Pine information site for more information on how
> to configure Pine for MH style mail.  The only blurb I could find about MH
> was from the technical notes on the UW WWW site:
> 
>        A folder is a group of messages. The default format used by Unix
>        Pine is the Berkeley mail format. It is also used by the standard
>        mail command and by elm. Unix Pine also understands message folders
>        in other formats, such as Tenex, MH, MMDF, Carmel, and Netnews. (For
>        more information about the carmel format, see the directory
>        ./contrib/carmel in the Pine distribution.)
> 
> I'm hoping that there is some technical documentation out there on how to
> setup MH style mail that I just haven't come across.  I'd appreciate any
> such pointers.  In the case that there is no more documentation, I'd
> appreciate any tips/hints on how to set it up and what I need to be aware
> of in making the transition from Berkley to MH.
> 
> Thanks in advance for all assistance.
> 
> Peace.
> 
> jte
> 
> ------------------------------+-------------------------------------------------
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> Dear pine-users,
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> How to use rules to filter in-coming mails using pine like Pmail. I use
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> >> In article <5pgepe$4d2$1@dux.dundee.ac.uk>, jbai@dux.dundee.ac.uk
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> JBCE> Dear pine-users, How to use rules to filter in-coming mails
> JBCE> using pine like Pmail. I use pine in unix system.
> 
> RTFM =8-0
> 
>   How can I filter messages into different incoming folders?
>    Pine does not perform delivery filtering; that is the function of
>    other programs, such as (on Unix hosts) "procmail" or "mailagent."
> 
> man procmail
> man emil
> man filter
> man mailagent
> 
> --
> Robin S. Socha,
> Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn
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I need to have some way of auto-encrypting incoming mail as soon as it
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Is it possible to do this -- if so how?

System = Unix freeBSD ..

Also how do I use PGP for outgoing mail??

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David Southwell wrote:
> 
> I need to have some way of auto-encrypting incoming mail as soon as it
> arrives and
> keeping my mail in an encrypted form..
> 
> Is it possible to do this -- if so how?
> 
> System = Unix freeBSD ..
> 
> Also how do I use PGP for outgoing mail??
> 
> david S.
REMOVE......


PLEASE TAKE US OFF YOUR LIST NOW!!!!


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;
> REMOVE......
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> 
> PLEASE TAKE US OFF YOUR LIST NOW!!!!
> 
> 
> THANKS FOR YOUR COOPERATION......
> REMOVE......
> 
> 
> PLEASE TAKE US OFF YOUR LIST NOW!!!!
> 
> 
> THANKS FOR YOUR COOPERATION......
> REMOVE......
> 
> 
> PLEASE TAKE US OFF YOUR LIST NOW!!!!
> 
> 
> THANKS FOR YOUR COOPERATION......
> REMOVE......
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> 
> PLEASE TAKE US OFF YOUR LIST NOW!!!!
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> 
> THANKS FOR YOUR COOPERATION......

;;;slpdllkrojf;lk@lddpkjgf.com;;;;;;;; wrote:
> 
>   One-Number service puts you in control of your calls while ensuring that your calls,
>   messages and faxes reach you regardless of your location.  One-Number service
>   does this by linking your existing telephones, cell phones, pagers, and fax machines
>   through a single telephone number.
> 
>  YOUR One-Number ACCOUNT COMES STANDARD WITH THESE
>   FEATURES
>   - Consolidates your phone, fax, voice-mail and paging services
>   - Works with your existing products and services, no need to change
>   - Easily lets you designate yourself as available or unavailable
>   - Rings you at up to three numbers simultaneously
>   - Never-busy number accepts multiple incoming calls and faxes
>   - Call Screening (by name) lets you know who is calling
>   - Call Waiting lets you know somebody else is calling
>   - Call Move lets you easily transfer calls among different phones
>   - Call Conferencing allows conferences with other parties
>   - Fax Notification on your pager for incoming fax messages
>   - Redirect calls to Personal Operator (live person) if desired
>   - AND MUCH MORE
> 
>  Virtual Office Communications Company is not a phone company, a long distance carrier,
>  nor do we sell telephone equipment, cellular phones, cellular service, pager or pager service.
>  Instead, we offer service to integrate your existing products, adding value to what you already
>  have by letting your phones, pagers, fax machines and voice-mail systems work together
>  seamlessly.
> 
>  To learn more please visit our web site at: http://www.mynumber.com
> 
>  Please do not reply by e-mail as we are not set up to respond to e-mail requests.

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jackpot@ilnk.com wrote:
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>
> check this out. see the problem???
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> [ message/rfc822 ] :
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> >UNSUBSCRIBE PINE-INFO <jackpot@ilnk.com>
>
> jackpot@ilnk.com: You are not subscribed to list pine-info@u.washington.edu
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> If you wish to contact a person, please send mail to
owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu dlm@cac.washington.edu .

Weird... anyway, try emailing those 2 addresses.  Looks like they might
actually get to a human.


> To get general help on Listproc, please send the command:
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> PS: Any subsequent requests you might have submitted in the same message
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>> On 6 Jul 1997 04:36:32 GMT, SFD17 from the organization of AT&T
>> WorldNet Services who can be reached at: SFD17@worldnet.att.net
>> (whose comments are cited below with "S> "), had this to say in
>> article <5pn7cg$4gp@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> in newsgroups
>> comp.mail.pine concerning the subject of telnet??!!!

S> Somebody help me!! I use pine email at school and I am trying to
S> access it from my house.  What telnetting program do I need to do
S> this?  Also how would I do this?  I'm a little bit confused, so if
S> anyone could help me [...]

1) You don't have a real name in your message.
2) You don't have a signature in your message.
3) You obviously haven't read the faq.
4) You didn't provide your audience with the essential information
   about your computer system, remote or local.

Now, what do you expect from us? Should we do some mind-reading?
Taking 1-4 into consideration, it's a safe bet you're using Win95. So
goto http://www.yahoo.com and check the computer/software/internet
section. Get some telnet, install it. Open a connection to your
university, login and say pine. That's it. The helpdesk people at your 
school should be able to provide you with the necessary information
you need about how to connect to them.

Robin


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around the core is where we make the difference. (Charles Handy)

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On Pine 3.91 you cannot pre-type into the composer with the initial
keystroke list. I am wondering if there is anyway to work around this 
so I can use a shell script to send files via Pine. Or do I have 
to start investigating sendmail?
::::::Grg Matehson  grratboradotdacomdotcodotkr:::::::

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>> "DS" == David Southwell <david@gibson.bathl.westnet.net.uk> writes:

DS> I need to have some way of auto-encrypting incoming mail as soon
DS> as it arrives and keeping my mail in an encrypted form..
DS> Is it possible to do this -- if so how?

Yes -- man procmail.

DS> Also how do I use PGP for outgoing mail??

RTFM: http://www.rhein.de/~roland/

Robin

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Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn
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around the core is where we make the difference. (Charles Handy)

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Subject: Re: telnet??!!!REMOVE......
	
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Robin S. Socha wrote:
> 
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> 
> >> On 6 Jul 1997 04:36:32 GMT, SFD17 from the organization of AT&T
> >> WorldNet Services who can be reached at: SFD17@worldnet.att.net
> >> (whose comments are cited below with "S> "), had this to say in
> >> article <5pn7cg$4gp@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> in newsgroups
> >> comp.mail.pine concerning the subject of telnet??!!!
> 
> S> Somebody help me!! I use pine email at school and I am trying to
> S> access it from my house.  What telnetting program do I need to do
> S> this?  Also how would I do this?  I'm a little bit confused, so if
> S> anyone could help me [...]
> 
> 1) You don't have a real name in your message.
> 2) You don't have a signature in your message.
> 3) You obviously haven't read the faq.
> 4) You didn't provide your audience with the essential information
>    about your computer system, remote or local.
> 
> Now, what do you expect from us? Should we do some mind-reading?
> Taking 1-4 into consideration, it's a safe bet you're using Win95. So
> goto http://www.yahoo.com and check the computer/software/internet
> section. Get some telnet, install it. Open a connection to your
> university, login and say pine. That's it. The helpdesk people at your
> school should be able to provide you with the necessary information
> you need about how to connect to them.
> 
> Robin
> 
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> --
> Robin S. Socha, M.A.
> Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn
> In the doughnut way of life, the core is fixed and the bounded space
> around the core is where we make the difference. (Charles Handy)


> REMOVE......
> 
> 
> PLEASE TAKE US OFF YOUR LIST NOW!!!!
> 
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> THANKS FOR YOUR COOPERATION......
> REMOVE......
> 
> 
> PLEASE TAKE US OFF YOUR LIST NOW!!!!
> 
> 
> THANKS FOR YOUR COOPERATION......
> REMOVE......
> 
> 
> PLEASE TAKE US OFF YOUR LIST NOW!!!!
> 
> 
> THANKS FOR YOUR COOPERATION......

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Green Matheson wrote:
> 
> On Pine 3.91 you cannot pre-type into the composer with the initial
> keystroke list. I am wondering if there is anyway to work around this
> so I can use a shell script to send files via Pine. Or do I have
> to start investigating sendmail?
> ::::::Grg Matehson  grratboradotdacomdotcodotkr:::::::


> REMOVE......
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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> REMOVE......
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> THANKS FOR YOUR COOPERATION......
> REMOVE......
> 
> 
> PLEASE TAKE US OFF YOUR LIST NOW!!!!
> 
> 
> THANKS FOR YOUR COOPERATION......

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How  do I get access to the internet from off campus.

Thanks...  Carolyn Stephens



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On 29 Jun 1997, Robert Freedman wrote:
> Hi, I accidentally "erased" an incoming email letter before reading it.
> Are these messages stored somewhere in the system and is there a way I can
> retrieve it?
> Thanks
> Bob Freedman
> Orinda, CA 
> email: rfreedma@jfku.jfku.edu
> 
As far as I know, you have only one opportunity to undelete mail, and that
is _BEFORE_ you exit Pine. Once you have exited and approved deletions,
then that is the _end_. As far as being stored _elsewhere_, it _was_,
before you retrieved it.
Someone else may know of a way to do it, but I don't hold much hope.

		sorry,


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I am trying to set up an IMAP server (University of Washington version),
however when trying to access it from pine, it is very slow in connecting.
I have tried a variety of machines running different versions of pine.
The oddest thing is that pine 3.91 running on an old Linux machine has no
delay associated with it.  All other versions take about a minute to log
in (when pine starts, it says opening inbox with the rotating status
bar)..  Telneting directly to the IMAP port and manually logging in I can
see that it is running fine and fast.  The mailbox is small (normally
empty)..

I am just curious what pine is doing while it is sitting there, and how
can I fix it so it doesn't take so long to load up.  I tried it with level
9 debugging turned on, and did not see anything out of the ordinary in the
debug file.

Any help would greatly be appreciated.

-Eric




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Subject: Re: Pine and IMAP
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Hi -

I think this sounds as if your Pine session is trying to establish a
"pre-suthenticated" IMAP connection (to avoid the need for you to type in
your username and password), before falling back to a conventional
connection to port 143 (whereupon it prompts you for username and
password).

Assuming you have rsh access to the host your IMAP service runs on you may
like to set up the pre-authenticated version of the IMAP daemon.  This is
done very simply: just make a symbolic link so that the filename
/etc/rimapd points to your real IMAP server executable.  Then test it by,
from the machine you use Pine on, giving a command of the form:

    rsh imap.mysite.mydomain exec /etc/rimapd

You should get a welcome banner which includes something about the
connection being pre-authenticated.

If you don't want to set this up, or don't allow rsh access to the IMAP
server host, you instead need to configure Pine to avoid trying to
establish a pre-authenticated connection and instead just go straight for a
conventional connection to port 143.

There are two ways you can do this:

1.  On a per-IMAP-server basis...

Simply alter the mailbox specification to include the explicit port number
after the machine IP name.  For example:

    inbox-path = {imap.mysite.mydomain:143}INBOX

This method allows you to avoid the pre-authenticated connections for some
servers, but retain them for others.

2.  If instead you just want to turn off all attempts at
pre-authentication, for any and all IMAP servers you may link to...

Edit the Pine settings file ($HOME/.pinerc for UNIX Pine) and set the
"rsh-open-timeout" variable to zero.

(You have to do this by editting the file directly; because it is quite an
unusual thing to alter there is no user interface to alter it in the Setup
Configuration screen (if memory serves).  This can, of course, be set in
the systemwide pine.conf file if you so wish.)

Cheers,

-- 
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--On Mon, Jul 7, 1997 2:29 am -0500 "Eric Huss" <e-huss@uiuc.edu> wrote: 

> I am trying to set up an IMAP server (University of Washington version),
> however when trying to access it from pine, it is very slow in
connecting.
> I have tried a variety of machines running different versions of pine.
> The oddest thing is that pine 3.91 running on an old Linux machine has no
> delay associated with it.  All other versions take about a minute to log
> in (when pine starts, it says opening inbox with the rotating status
> bar)..  Telneting directly to the IMAP port and manually logging in I can
> see that it is running fine and fast.  The mailbox is small (normally
> empty)..
> 
> I am just curious what pine is doing while it is sitting there, and how
> can I fix it so it doesn't take so long to load up.  I tried it with
level
> 9 debugging turned on, and did not see anything out of the ordinary in
the
> debug file.
> 
> Any help would greatly be appreciated.

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Hello, pine community, I'm a pine beginner, my problem is:
I've used Digital dxmailer for two years (alpha OSF/1 environment), 
and now I've a lot of mails, saved by that mailer; as I'd like to
use pine but not to loose my previous mails, I'm asking if it exists
a converter. For what I saw, the major difference in the formats is that
Digital dxmailer saves each mail into a separate file.

Any help would be greately appreciated

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Bruce Toews wrote:
> 
> Hi. How does one go about changing the From: header in a message? Please,
> no lecture on ethics or advisability at this point. I'm referring, in this
> case, to using a portable e-mail address as opposed to the one my ISP gave
> me. You can configure your name, and your domain name, but not the user
> name. In my case I'm lucky, since my portable address and my permanent
> address share the same username of btoews, but I want to configure Pine
> for a friend. So, ethics and advisability aside, if I wanted to do this,
> how could it be done? thanks.
> 
> Bruce

I also want to know how to do this.

I install pine on my Linux box. My login name on my Linux box is
different
from that of my ISP account. I really don't want to create another
account
on my Linux box simply just for using pine.

This is not an ethics issue. There is such need in reality.

HH

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Hi,

Are there plans to implement color for xterms and VT-100 terminal emulators
in future versions of Pine?  For example, several UNIX news readers (slrn,
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signatures in another etc.

Thanks in advance!
-Rocky

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Can I put a bcc in a address list so that I can do a bounce instaid of a
forward? ie

	nickname meleager
	address arete@smart.net
	bcc 1@1
	    2@2



		Be well and happy
			
			Geordi Byron (aka Arete)

		http://www.smart.net/~arete/classics

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Just use control-R to get your rich header, leave the To: field blank, and
put your distribution list in the Bcc: field. Simplicity, and it sounds a
little too obvious, I know. I ran into the same problem a few months ago,
posted almost word for word your question, and got a response of "Try it."
<GRIN> Hope this helps. What you'll get, by the way, if you do this, is
"recipients suppressed" or something like that in the To: field.

Bruce



On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Jim Messina wrote:

> Sorry if this is already answered in FAQs; will check there in a moment. 
> "Address Book Commands" doesn't seem to answer the following question in
> unix Pine 3.95
> 
> Sending mail to a Distribution list of several addresses in the address
> book shows every address in this list in the header. Is there a way to
> hide the list or redirect the list to the Bcc line and not to the To:
> line? 
> 
> Looking for a way to cut down on the header overhead, not to hide anything
> from anyone.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> ---
> Bluecoat Digest List Manager - Jim Messina
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> 
> 
> 


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Arnaud Taddei <taddei@mail.cern.ch> writes:

> 	2) anybody who wants to deploy IMAP servers for "big" sites and 
>     	   wants to rely on this feature will go for trouble (try to tell 
> 	   users that now they have to use a password)

Well, we're installed in some "big" sites, and it doesn't seem to be
a problem. A well designed client will provide an option to cache (in
memory -- not on disk!) a default password for a given message store, and
replay it on the users behalf. Thus, you enter the password the first
time you access the message store, and the client enters it for you
on any subsequent folder opens against the same server.

> 	4) In the longer term there is a general problem with
> 	   preauthentication

Yup. That's why we highly recommend alternative solutions such
as Kerberos.

--lyndon



Lyndon Nerenberg				The ESYS Corporation
Sr. Software Developer
Server Products					http://www.esys.ca/


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On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Andreas Klein wrote:

> Hello!
> 
> Does anybody know if there is a possibility to integrate pgp into pine?

Yes!
Look for pinepgp on http://www.aigis.demon.nl

Anton Tomas
PGP-key on http://www.aigis.demon.nl


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Does anyone know if pine does ph or ldap directory services?
I havn't found it yet if it does.  Please email me to the 
address below.  Thanks.
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In article <5pdnrb$43o@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca>, cyberhaggis@.karsy.org wrote:
|Does Pine 3.95 work OK with IMAP4? Specifically the UW Imap4 Rev1 server? 

|We need to know if it'll work in this fashion until Pine 4.00 comes out

Working fine on this end.

_______________________________________________________________
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I have been asked to setup a 386 with 2meg of Ram for accessing
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In the install text file it says "We assume that your DOS networking
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someone suggest software for this task I assume it means software that
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Hi there! I'm a compsci stude and would like to know how PINE was
accessed?  Was it done by networking? Thank you.
  

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I am trying to compile Pine 3.96 on my DG/UX Release 5.4R3.10 system and I
am getting some errors that follow:

Making c-client library, mtest and imapd
        make build SYSTYPE=ANSI OS=d-g
        echo d-g > OSTYPE
        rm -rf systype
        ln -s ANSI systype
        cd ANSI/c-client; make d-g
        make mtest OS=d-g EXTRADRIVERS="" \
                STDPROTO=bezerkproto MAILSPOOL=/var/mail \
                ACTIVEFILE=/local/news/active NEWSSPOOL=/var/spool/news \
                RSH=remsh RSHPATH=/usr/bin/remsh \
                CFLAGS="-g -DNFSKLUDGE " RANLIB=true
        ./drivers  imap nntp pop3 mh tenex mtx mmdf bezerk news phile dummy
        rm -f CCTYPE CFLAGS LDFLAGS osdep.h
        echo cc > CCTYPE
        echo -g -DNFSKLUDGE  > CFLAGS
        echo   > LDFLAGS
        ln -s os_d-g.h osdep.h
        cc -g -DNFSKLUDGE  -c mail.c
In file included from mail.c:39:
mail.h:519: syntax error before `char'
mail.h:520: syntax error before `char'
In file included from mail.c:43:
rfc822.h:88: parse error before `const'
rfc822.h:104: parse error before `const'
mail.c:1080: syntax error before `char'
mail.c:1082: syntax error before `char'
mail.c: In function `mail_date':
mail.c:1087: `const' undeclared (first use this function)
mail.c:1087: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
mail.c:1087: for each function it appears in.)
mail.c:1087: parse error before `char'
mail.c:1090: `s' undeclared (first use this function)
mail.c: In function `mail_cdate':
mail.c:1105: `const' undeclared (first use this function)
mail.c:1105: parse error before `char'
mail.c:1115: `s' undeclared (first use this function)
mail.c: In function `mail_parse_date':
mail.c:1157: `const' undeclared (first use this function)
mail.c:1157: parse error before `char'
mail.c:1161: parse error before `char'
mail.c:1162: parse error before `char'
mail.c:1162: parse error before `*'
mail.c:1162: parse error before `)'
mail.c:1188: parse error before `char'
mail.c:1189: parse error before `('
mail.c:1189: parse error before `)'
mail.c:1201: parse error before `char'
mail.c:1203: parse error before `char'
mail.c:1204: parse error before `char'
mail.c: In function `mail_sequence':
mail.c:1466: `const' undeclared (first use this function)
mail.c:1466: parse error before `char'
mail.c:1474: parse error before `char'
Fatal error in /usr/lib/gcc/cc1
Child exit status 041
*** Error code 1

Can anyone help me.

Thank's Chris Hartmann
hartmann@dccinc.com

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One of the companies we usually communicate with has Internet connectivity
problems.  Hence, we have a lot of deferred messages in our mail queue.
Our sysadmin is on vacation and I need to forward all these deferred
messages to another address.  Where are these messages stored and how can
these messages be forwarded?  We have PINE for AIX installed.

Would appreciate any help.

Thanks,
Lydia Pablo
l.pablo@saturn.sbf.com


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I was trying to send a message through pine (v3.95) and i got the
following error message -> "Mail not sent. Sending error:452 <my email
address>...Insuff". does anyone know what this means?? help?! thanks.
    christian 

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We are trying to run pine on Sequent ptx.  For resons having to do 
with our core application ("minotaur") and multiple terminfo's, we 
have to call pine from a script, which is shown, along with a lot of 
other stuff, below.  The problem is, I (user jack) am the only user 
who can actually use pine.  I suspect this is because I have the same 
user id and effective user id, which is also the same as the id as 
the process which calls the script which calls pine.  Other users are 
not so priveleged.

 When login judy (or anyone other than jack)
tries to run pine the first time, it opens, but reports the following
message:  "[Error saving configuration in file
"/s/users/judy/.pinerc": Cross-device link]"

On subsequent attempts, pine refuses to run.  The message is:
"The "/s/users/judy/mail" subdirectory already exists, but it
is not writable by Pine so Pine cannot run.  Please correct the
permissions and restart Pine."  This message persists even if the 
mail directory's permissions are fully open to user, group and world.

I suspect this has something to do with real user id and effective
user id, but really don't have a clue where to go from here.   All 
help is deeply appreciated.

Here is what we look like:

Entries from the password file:
minos:x:100:100:Minos,,:/s/minos:/bin/csh
jack:x:100:100:Bill Johnson:/s/users/jack:/bin/sh
judy:x:764:100:Judy:/s/users/judy:/bin/sh


/s/minos/Minotaur/Bincustom/pine:
-rwxr-xr-x    1 minos    users        474 Jul  8 15:49 pine

the script /s/minos/Minotaur/Bincustom/pine:
  SHELL="echo Shell functions not available"
  export SHELL
  trap "" 2 3
  # use the native terminfo instead of minos'
  TERMINFO="/usr/lib/terminfo"
  export TERMINFO
  # if this is a wyse60, save that, and make it be a vt100
  if test "$TERM" = "wyse60"
   then TERMWAS="wyse60"; echo "\0033~;"
  fi
  # treat all terminals as vt100
  TERM="vt100"
  export TERM
  # run pine
  /u/pine/pine3.96/bin/pine
  wait
  # if this was a wyse60, make it be a wyse60 again
  if test "$TERMWAS"="wyse60"
   then echo "\0033[42h"
  fi
  # return to minos clean
  exit 0

/u/pine/pine3.96/bin/pine:
-rwxr-xr-x    2 root     nuucp    3804656 Jun 17 10:42 pine
(don't ask; this is where the system administrator put it)

/usr/mail:
-rw-rwl---    1 minos  mail       15460 Jul  7 15:56 jack
-rw-rwl---    1 coord    mail         422 Jul  7 16:59 judy

/s/users/jack:
drwxrwx---    4 753      users       1024 Jul  7 16:58 .
drwx------   83 minos    users       1536 Aug 29  1996 ..
-rw-r--r--    1 minos    users          0 Jun 17 20:32 .addressbook
-rw-r--r--    1 minos    users       2285 Jun 17 20:32 
.addressbook.lu
-rw-------    1 minos    users       7260 Jul  7 16:59 .pine-debug1
-rw-------    1 minos    users       6517 Jul  7 16:31 .pine-debug2
-rw-------    1 minos    users       7448 Jul  7 15:56 .pine-debug3
-rw-------    1 minos    users       7448 Jul  7 15:53 .pine-debug4
-rw-------    1 minos    users      10379 Jul  7 16:58 .pinerc 
drwx------    2 minos    users        512 Jul  7 16:59 mail

/s/users/judy:
drwxrwx---    4 judy    users        512 Jul  8 15:51 .
drwx------   83 minos    users       1536 Aug 29  1996 ..
-rw-------    1 minos    users       5808 Jul  8 15:51 .pine-debug1
-rw-------    1 minos    users       5808 Jul  8 15:51 .pine-debug2
-rw-------    1 minos    users       6500 Jul  8 15:51 .pine-debug3
drwx------    2 minos    users        512 Jul  8 15:50 mail

********************
Bill Johnson
CEL Regional Library
Savannah, Georgia
********************

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On 8 Jul 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote:
> NMG> Can you change the From header while in the midst of composing a
> NMG> message? 
> 
> Now, this is something worth discussion. Honestly, I love your filtering
> faq. To me, it was invaluable. However, I don't agree with forging headers
> the way you do (or is that really your FQDN?). Anyway, one should not mess
> with the header, should one?

I also do not believe in forging headers.  The From address I
posted that message with (nm@NoAdsPlease.ii.com) is completely
legit and if you send mail to it, I'll write you back.  And the
address I'm using in the From header in this message
(nm+news@ii.com) is also legit.  Given the insane amount of junk
email I get, I need to come up with a good solution for filtering
it.  Part of my solution involves using different email addresses
for public and private.  I need a mailer that will allow me to
easily change my From header between my public and private
addresses.

I hope this really is worth discussing...
Thanks,
Nancy


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On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Geordi Byron wrote:

> Can I put a bcc in a address list so that I can do a bounce instaid of a
> forward? ie
> 
> 	nickname meleager
> 	address arete@smart.net
> 	bcc 1@1
> 	    2@2

    No.  Address lists are nothing but lists of addresses (or aliases,
which represent addresses).  You may, however, put an address list in 
the Bcc: field in the header of a message.

Paul                             <pobart@access.digex.net>
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      Hi, 
   thanks fery much abaut your informansion but can u give it to me some
info. abaut E-MAIL because i don,t how to used E-MAIL,thank were ever u
want to give it info.


     thank bye,                           from adit,
   


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I am not quite sure but I had about 50 messages in my folder that were
sent to me......highly classified stuff and I pressed that little X at the
top right when I was looking at the messages in the folder ....then I got
out came back in only to find an empty folder..............


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH  PLEASE HELP RETRIEVE......):


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The pine technical notes state that if an empty or 10X format file named
mail.txt exists in a user's home directory, pine will move mail from
/usr/spool/$USER to that file.  Does this apply if the inbox is on an imap
server?  I tried creating an empty file named mail.txt in my home directory
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Adam Myrow


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In article <33c60998.4311337@nntp.ix.netcom.com>,
David <d.s.kirk@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Well, jackpot, I can take a hint,  but this seemed uncalled for.... I
>read all the PINE material, read the NG for several days, and posted
>what seemed a simple question.  If questions about PINE in non-UNIX
>environment are not welcome, just say so.  Your note was unnecessarily
>offensive.  I serve on several NGs to help people with various
>computer topics and we generally give a bit of slack to new posters.
>The documents from U. Washington encourage posts to this group.  If
>this is inappropriate, why not a gentle suggestion on where PINE info
>for Windows users exists?  
>Thank you.   

No, David, it's this guy who is off base.  I'm sorry that I don't have an
answer for your specific question, but comp.mail.pine is the place for ALL
questions regarding pine.  I'll look around though and see if I can find
anything.

>David        d.s.kirk@ix.netcom.com
>____________________________________
>



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Hello

I am using BSD 2.0 and pine 3.91 now I am facing some problem while using
pine like if the mailbox is too larrge
or if i receive some large attachment of 10 to 15 K it giving error message
unable to resize pine windows
What is soln of this??.

If I have to upgrade the how do I Upgrade it?

Any help would be appreciated

Thanks

Jayanta
please mail me directly
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Subject: Re: pine and pgp
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ajt@aigis.demon.nl wrote:
> 
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> On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Andreas Klein wrote:
> 
> > Hello!
> >
> > Does anybody know if there is a possibility to integrate pgp into pine?
> 
> Yes!
> Look for pinepgp on http://www.aigis.demon.nl
> 
> Anton Tomas
> PGP-key on http://www.aigis.demon.nl
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Subject: 
         Error Condition Re: Invalid request
   Date: 
         Sun, 6 Jul 1997 12:28:39 PDT
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>UNSUBSCRIBE PINE-INFO <jackpot@ilnk.com>

jackpot@ilnk.com: You are not subscribed to list
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Subject: 
         WHICH
   Date: 
         Mon, 7 Jul 1997 05:12:08 PDT
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>SIGNOFF PINE-INFO

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I AM BEING SPAMMED BY THE PINE-INFO GROUP. I HAVE TRIED FOR OVER 3
MONTHS TO GET OFF THE LIST. NOTHING HAS WORKED. PLEASE DON'T SEND ME ANY
MORE MESSAGES, BUT IF YOU KNOW WHO TO CONTACT OR HOW TO DO IT, JUST SEND
A MESSAGE TO WHOMEVER CAN REMOVE ME FROM THE LIST. MY MAILBOX HAS
CONTAINED OVER 4,000 MESSAGES AT ONE TIME. I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU WHAT
PROBLEMS THIS HAS CREATED. I never subscribed to the list, and they say
I'm not on it. Which is the way it ought to be, but they keep sending me
mail.

So if I'm not on the list, then I'm not sending you this message -
everything ought to be OK, huh?Subject: 
         Error Condition Re: Invalid request
   Date: 
         Sun, 6 Jul 1997 12:28:39 PDT
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>UNSUBSCRIBE PINE-INFO <jackpot@ilnk.com>

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Subject: 
         WHICH
   Date: 
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>SIGNOFF PINE-INFO

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I AM BEING SPAMMED BY THE PINE-INFO GROUP. I HAVE TRIED FOR OVER 3
MONTHS TO GET OFF THE LIST. NOTHING HAS WORKED. PLEASE DON'T SEND ME ANY
MORE MESSAGES, BUT IF YOU KNOW WHO TO CONTACT OR HOW TO DO IT, JUST SEND
A MESSAGE TO WHOMEVER CAN REMOVE ME FROM THE LIST. MY MAILBOX HAS
CONTAINED OVER 4,000 MESSAGES AT ONE TIME. I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU WHAT
PROBLEMS THIS HAS CREATED. I never subscribed to the list, and they say
I'm not on it. Which is the way it ought to be, but they keep sending me
mail.

So if I'm not on the list, then I'm not sending you this message -
everything ought to be OK, huh?

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Hong Huang wrote:
> 
> Bruce Toews wrote:
> >
> > Hi. How does one go about changing the From: header in a message? Please,
> > no lecture on ethics or advisability at this point. I'm referring, in this
> > case, to using a portable e-mail address as opposed to the one my ISP gave
> > me. You can configure your name, and your domain name, but not the user
> > name. In my case I'm lucky, since my portable address and my permanent
> > address share the same username of btoews, but I want to configure Pine
> > for a friend. So, ethics and advisability aside, if I wanted to do this,
> > how could it be done? thanks.
> >
> > Bruce
> 
> I also want to know how to do this.
> 
> I install pine on my Linux box. My login name on my Linux box is
> different
> from that of my ISP account. I really don't want to create another
> account
> on my Linux box simply just for using pine.
> 
> This is not an ethics issue. There is such need in reality.
> 
> HH
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e wrote:
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> Hi there! I'm a compsci stude and would like to know how PINE was
> accessed?  Was it done by networking? Thank you.
> 
> 
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References: <UnkXWde00WB34TZodL@andrew.cmu.edu>
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Christian R Laurenzano wrote:
> 
> I was trying to send a message through pine (v3.95) and i got the
> following error message -> "Mail not sent. Sending error:452 <my email
> address>...Insuff". does anyone know what this means?? help?! thanks.
>     christian
Subject: 
         Error Condition Re: Invalid request
   Date: 
         Sun, 6 Jul 1997 12:28:39 PDT
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I AM BEING SPAMMED BY THE PINE-INFO GROUP. I HAVE TRIED FOR OVER 3
MONTHS TO GET OFF THE LIST. NOTHING HAS WORKED. PLEASE DON'T SEND ME ANY
MORE MESSAGES, BUT IF YOU KNOW WHO TO CONTACT OR HOW TO DO IT, JUST SEND
A MESSAGE TO WHOMEVER CAN REMOVE ME FROM THE LIST. MY MAILBOX HAS
CONTAINED OVER 4,000 MESSAGES AT ONE TIME. I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU WHAT
PROBLEMS THIS HAS CREATED. I never subscribed to the list, and they say
I'm not on it. Which is the way it ought to be, but they keep sending me
mail.

So if I'm not on the list, then I'm not sending you this message -
everything ought to be OK, huh?Subject: 
         Error Condition Re: Invalid request
   Date: 
         Sun, 6 Jul 1997 12:28:39 PDT
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Subject: 
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>SIGNOFF PINE-INFO

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I AM BEING SPAMMED BY THE PINE-INFO GROUP. I HAVE TRIED FOR OVER 3
MONTHS TO GET OFF THE LIST. NOTHING HAS WORKED. PLEASE DON'T SEND ME ANY
MORE MESSAGES, BUT IF YOU KNOW WHO TO CONTACT OR HOW TO DO IT, JUST SEND
A MESSAGE TO WHOMEVER CAN REMOVE ME FROM THE LIST. MY MAILBOX HAS
CONTAINED OVER 4,000 MESSAGES AT ONE TIME. I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU WHAT
PROBLEMS THIS HAS CREATED. I never subscribed to the list, and they say
I'm not on it. Which is the way it ought to be, but they keep sending me
mail.

So if I'm not on the list, then I'm not sending you this message -
everything ought to be OK, huh?

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Jennifer Castaneda wrote:
> 
> I am not quite sure but I had about 50 messages in my folder that were
> sent to me......highly classified stuff and I pressed that little X at the
> top right when I was looking at the messages in the folder ....then I got
> out came back in only to find an empty folder..............
> 
> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH  PLEASE HELP RETRIEVE......):
Subject: 
         Error Condition Re: Invalid request
   Date: 
         Sun, 6 Jul 1997 12:28:39 PDT
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>SIGNOFF PINE-INFO

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I AM BEING SPAMMED BY THE PINE-INFO GROUP. I HAVE TRIED FOR OVER 3
MONTHS TO GET OFF THE LIST. NOTHING HAS WORKED. PLEASE DON'T SEND ME ANY
MORE MESSAGES, BUT IF YOU KNOW WHO TO CONTACT OR HOW TO DO IT, JUST SEND
A MESSAGE TO WHOMEVER CAN REMOVE ME FROM THE LIST. MY MAILBOX HAS
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PROBLEMS THIS HAS CREATED. I never subscribed to the list, and they say
I'm not on it. Which is the way it ought to be, but they keep sending me
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So if I'm not on the list, then I'm not sending you this message -
everything ought to be OK, huh?Subject: 
         Error Condition Re: Invalid request
   Date: 
         Sun, 6 Jul 1997 12:28:39 PDT
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I AM BEING SPAMMED BY THE PINE-INFO GROUP. I HAVE TRIED FOR OVER 3
MONTHS TO GET OFF THE LIST. NOTHING HAS WORKED. PLEASE DON'T SEND ME ANY
MORE MESSAGES, BUT IF YOU KNOW WHO TO CONTACT OR HOW TO DO IT, JUST SEND
A MESSAGE TO WHOMEVER CAN REMOVE ME FROM THE LIST. MY MAILBOX HAS
CONTAINED OVER 4,000 MESSAGES AT ONE TIME. I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU WHAT
PROBLEMS THIS HAS CREATED. I never subscribed to the list, and they say
I'm not on it. Which is the way it ought to be, but they keep sending me
mail.

So if I'm not on the list, then I'm not sending you this message -
everything ought to be OK, huh?

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Subject: Re: mail.txt
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Adam Myrow wrote:
> 
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> 
> The pine technical notes state that if an empty or 10X format file named
> mail.txt exists in a user's home directory, pine will move mail from
> /usr/spool/$USER to that file.  Does this apply if the inbox is on an imap
> server?  I tried creating an empty file named mail.txt in my home directory
> and pine never moved the mail.  Thanks for any info.
> 
> Adam Myrow
> 
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> Version: 2.6.2
> 
> iQCVAwUBM8MPHtVYlDpLJRrNAQEzTwQA0e8Yck6FtWHftQ5WXtkUg/wwUCXK9eFz
> SfU1h3W+S5BeTjpy/06L0x7BH3gsli6j8T9IzwgiD4erax8AYjzM2oFEfZq0Y9nT
> PU/8Pyb5elwD5DDQQkrRzS2lxEiMk1LrHgH1AhjNFvlQpCAfd1T5f85wIW/GK0Pz
> ZM2yu/3SEZ8=
> =+KKK
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Subject: 
         Error Condition Re: Invalid request
   Date: 
         Sun, 6 Jul 1997 12:28:39 PDT
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>SIGNOFF PINE-INFO

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I AM BEING SPAMMED BY THE PINE-INFO GROUP. I HAVE TRIED FOR OVER 3
MONTHS TO GET OFF THE LIST. NOTHING HAS WORKED. PLEASE DON'T SEND ME ANY
MORE MESSAGES, BUT IF YOU KNOW WHO TO CONTACT OR HOW TO DO IT, JUST SEND
A MESSAGE TO WHOMEVER CAN REMOVE ME FROM THE LIST. MY MAILBOX HAS
CONTAINED OVER 4,000 MESSAGES AT ONE TIME. I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU WHAT
PROBLEMS THIS HAS CREATED. I never subscribed to the list, and they say
I'm not on it. Which is the way it ought to be, but they keep sending me
mail.

So if I'm not on the list, then I'm not sending you this message -
everything ought to be OK, huh?Subject: 
         Error Condition Re: Invalid request
   Date: 
         Sun, 6 Jul 1997 12:28:39 PDT
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I AM BEING SPAMMED BY THE PINE-INFO GROUP. I HAVE TRIED FOR OVER 3
MONTHS TO GET OFF THE LIST. NOTHING HAS WORKED. PLEASE DON'T SEND ME ANY
MORE MESSAGES, BUT IF YOU KNOW WHO TO CONTACT OR HOW TO DO IT, JUST SEND
A MESSAGE TO WHOMEVER CAN REMOVE ME FROM THE LIST. MY MAILBOX HAS
CONTAINED OVER 4,000 MESSAGES AT ONE TIME. I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU WHAT
PROBLEMS THIS HAS CREATED. I never subscribed to the list, and they say
I'm not on it. Which is the way it ought to be, but they keep sending me
mail.

So if I'm not on the list, then I'm not sending you this message -
everything ought to be OK, huh?

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From: jackpot@ilnk.com
To: "Pine Discussion Forum" <pine-info@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Color in Future Versions of Pine?
References: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970707145349.6553A-100000@apollo>
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Rocky Giannini wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Are there plans to implement color for xterms and VT-100 terminal emulators
> in future versions of Pine?  For example, several UNIX news readers (slrn,
> tin, etc.) display normal text in one color, quoted text in another, and
> signatures in another etc.
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> -Rocky
> 
> --
> Rocky Giannini
> UMUC Unix and VMS Systems
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         Error Condition Re: Invalid request
   Date: 
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Subject: Re: Munging From Header (Was: mutt vs. pine...)
References: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970707145349.6553A-100000@apollo> <m3n2nyd442.fsf@sushi.uni-bonn.de> <ED07no.EqJ@nonexistent.com> <m320595qmi.fsf@sushi.uni-bonn.de> <ED0t7M.3vn@nonexistent.com>
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nm+news@ii.com wrote:
> 
> On 8 Jul 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote:
> > NMG> Can you change the From header while in the midst of composing a
> > NMG> message?
> >
> > Now, this is something worth discussion. Honestly, I love your filtering
> > faq. To me, it was invaluable. However, I don't agree with forging headers
> > the way you do (or is that really your FQDN?). Anyway, one should not mess
> > with the header, should one?
> 
> I also do not believe in forging headers.  The From address I
> posted that message with (nm@NoAdsPlease.ii.com) is completely
> legit and if you send mail to it, I'll write you back.  And the
> address I'm using in the From header in this message
> (nm+news@ii.com) is also legit.  Given the insane amount of junk
> email I get, I need to come up with a good solution for filtering
> it.  Part of my solution involves using different email addresses
> for public and private.  I need a mailer that will allow me to
> easily change my From header between my public and private
> addresses.
> 
> I hope this really is worth discussing...
> Thanks,
> Nancy
> 
> --                                                                  /
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>  /     \         /   \       .-.     _     .-.       /   \       /
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Subject: Re: DGUX Pine3.96 HELP!!!
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Christopher J. Hartmann wrote:
> 
> I am trying to compile Pine 3.96 on my DG/UX Release 5.4R3.10 system and I
> am getting some errors that follow:
> 
> Making c-client library, mtest and imapd
>         make build SYSTYPE=ANSI OS=d-g
>         echo d-g > OSTYPE
>         rm -rf systype
>         ln -s ANSI systype
>         cd ANSI/c-client; make d-g
>         make mtest OS=d-g EXTRADRIVERS="" \
>                 STDPROTO=bezerkproto MAILSPOOL=/var/mail \
>                 ACTIVEFILE=/local/news/active NEWSSPOOL=/var/spool/news \
>                 RSH=remsh RSHPATH=/usr/bin/remsh \
>                 CFLAGS="-g -DNFSKLUDGE " RANLIB=true
>         ./drivers  imap nntp pop3 mh tenex mtx mmdf bezerk news phile dummy
>         rm -f CCTYPE CFLAGS LDFLAGS osdep.h
>         echo cc > CCTYPE
>         echo -g -DNFSKLUDGE  > CFLAGS
>         echo   > LDFLAGS
>         ln -s os_d-g.h osdep.h
>         cc -g -DNFSKLUDGE  -c mail.c
> In file included from mail.c:39:
> mail.h:519: syntax error before `char'
> mail.h:520: syntax error before `char'
> In file included from mail.c:43:
> rfc822.h:88: parse error before `const'
> rfc822.h:104: parse error before `const'
> mail.c:1080: syntax error before `char'
> mail.c:1082: syntax error before `char'
> mail.c: In function `mail_date':
> mail.c:1087: `const' undeclared (first use this function)
> mail.c:1087: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> mail.c:1087: for each function it appears in.)
> mail.c:1087: parse error before `char'
> mail.c:1090: `s' undeclared (first use this function)
> mail.c: In function `mail_cdate':
> mail.c:1105: `const' undeclared (first use this function)
> mail.c:1105: parse error before `char'
> mail.c:1115: `s' undeclared (first use this function)
> mail.c: In function `mail_parse_date':
> mail.c:1157: `const' undeclared (first use this function)
> mail.c:1157: parse error before `char'
> mail.c:1161: parse error before `char'
> mail.c:1162: parse error before `char'
> mail.c:1162: parse error before `*'
> mail.c:1162: parse error before `)'
> mail.c:1188: parse error before `char'
> mail.c:1189: parse error before `('
> mail.c:1189: parse error before `)'
> mail.c:1201: parse error before `char'
> mail.c:1203: parse error before `char'
> mail.c:1204: parse error before `char'
> mail.c: In function `mail_sequence':
> mail.c:1466: `const' undeclared (first use this function)
> mail.c:1466: parse error before `char'
> mail.c:1474: parse error before `char'
> Fatal error in /usr/lib/gcc/cc1
> Child exit status 041
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Can anyone help me.
> 
> Thank's Chris Hartmann
> hartmann@dccinc.com
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Mark Addy wrote:
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> Does anyone know if pine does ph or ldap directory services?
> I havn't found it yet if it does.  Please email me to the
> address below.  Thanks.
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how can I save file into pine for attachment




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On 8 Jul 1997, Vikas Agnihotri wrote:

> >Adding this to your .mailcap file will work:
> 
> >application/x-www-url-form-encoded ; cat %s
> 
> >then you can just view it within pine, instead of saving it.

    I am not a .mailcap guru, but based on my experience launching 
Lynx from Pine, you might give this a try:

application/x-www-url-form-encoded ; cat %s; needsterminal

NOTE: try this at your own risk, as I cannot guarantee results or
promise lack of damage.

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Subject: Re: Urgent -- Pine ver 3.96 for BSD 2.0
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Sujoy Ghosh wrote:
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> Dear all
> 
> I am using BSD 2.0 and pine version 3.91, presently I want to upgrade pine
> to 3.96 (latest). For this I downloaded source code from cac.washington.edu
> ftp site
> but unfortunately I can't untar the downloaded file pine3.96.tar.Z.
> Can anyone help me regarding extracting the above file and also how to
> build the
> pine in my BSD platform, or can anyone suggest me any other alternative
> to upgrade the same.
> Can any one help me by giving the pine 3.96 already compiled in BSD
> environment?
> 
> Please mail me directly to
> sujoy@allindia.com
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> thanks
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> warm regards
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Robin S. Socha wrote:
> 
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> 
> "n"=<nm+news@ii.com> wrote:
> n> On 8 Jul 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote:
> 
> n> I also do not believe in forging headers.
> [...]
> n> Given the insane amount of junk email I get, I need to come up with
> n> a good solution for filtering it.  Part of my solution involves
> n> using different email addresses for public and private.  I need a
> n> mailer that will allow me to easily change my From header between my
> n> public and private addresses.
> 
> I doubt the sense of it. IMVHO (and I'm not the one to tell *you*
> about filtering), NoCEM is the way to go, and for this, you need
> proper PGP-support which pine doesn't offer. Mutt and Gnus do, so
> that's why I said both are better mailers.
> I understand, why the pine developers aren't going to support PGP, but
> I still need it, so...
> 
> Sorry if there was any kind of misunderstanding about your account,
> btw.
> 
> Later,
> Robin
> 
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
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> 
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Anthony Pierce wrote:
> 
> I have been asked to setup a 386 with 2meg of Ram for accessing
> internet email and have downloaded Pine (pcp_pct.zip).  I am not
> familiar with pine and need some help in setting up the program.
> 
> In the install text file it says "We assume that your DOS networking
> software has been installed and configured for regular use"  Can
> someone suggest software for this task I assume it means software that
> will connect to the ISP??
> 
> apierce@wt.com.au
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Subject: Re: Addressbook
References: <Pine.BSI.3.95.970706142801.29622B-100000@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970707020820.29653B-100000@viking.cris.com>
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Bruce Toews wrote:
> 
> Just use control-R to get your rich header, leave the To: field blank, and
> put your distribution list in the Bcc: field. Simplicity, and it sounds a
> little too obvious, I know. I ran into the same problem a few months ago,
> posted almost word for word your question, and got a response of "Try it."
> <GRIN> Hope this helps. What you'll get, by the way, if you do this, is
> "recipients suppressed" or something like that in the To: field.
> 
> Bruce
> 
> On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Jim Messina wrote:
> 
> > Sorry if this is already answered in FAQs; will check there in a moment.
> > "Address Book Commands" doesn't seem to answer the following question in
> > unix Pine 3.95
> >
> > Sending mail to a Distribution list of several addresses in the address
> > book shows every address in this list in the header. Is there a way to
> > hide the list or redirect the list to the Bcc line and not to the To:
> > line?
> >
> > Looking for a way to cut down on the header overhead, not to hide anything
> > from anyone.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > ---
> > Bluecoat Digest List Manager - Jim Messina
> > http://www.neosoft.com/~sky
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Subject: Re: PINE and Windows 3.1 - one more time
References: <33c58966.13854227@nntp.ix.netcom.com> <33BFA984.406F@ilnk.com> <33c60998.4311337@nntp.ix.netcom.com> <5pp895$dfi$1@eskinews.eskimo.com>
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Carlos Nunes-Ueno wrote:
> 
> In article <33c60998.4311337@nntp.ix.netcom.com>,
> David <d.s.kirk@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> >Well, jackpot, I can take a hint,  but this seemed uncalled for.... I
> >read all the PINE material, read the NG for several days, and posted
> >what seemed a simple question.  If questions about PINE in non-UNIX
> >environment are not welcome, just say so.  Your note was unnecessarily
> >offensive.  I serve on several NGs to help people with various
> >computer topics and we generally give a bit of slack to new posters.
> >The documents from U. Washington encourage posts to this group.  If
> >this is inappropriate, why not a gentle suggestion on where PINE info
> >for Windows users exists?
> >Thank you.
> 
> No, David, it's this guy who is off base.  I'm sorry that I don't have an
> answer for your specific question, but comp.mail.pine is the place for ALL
> questions regarding pine.  I'll look around though and see if I can find
> anything.
> 
> >David        d.s.kirk@ix.netcom.com
> >____________________________________
> >


david this is nothing personal and my comments were not directed to you,
it's only that i have been trying to get off this list for over three
months. my mailbox has been flooded with pine mail. and i just want you
folks to quit mailing to me. if you quit mailing to me, then i won't
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Subject: Re: Munging From Header (Was: mutt vs. pine...)
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"n"=<nm+news@ii.com> wrote:
n> On 8 Jul 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote:

n> I also do not believe in forging headers. 
[...]
n> Given the insane amount of junk email I get, I need to come up with
n> a good solution for filtering it.  Part of my solution involves
n> using different email addresses for public and private.  I need a
n> mailer that will allow me to easily change my From header between my
n> public and private addresses.

I doubt the sense of it. IMVHO (and I'm not the one to tell *you*
about filtering), NoCEM is the way to go, and for this, you need
proper PGP-support which pine doesn't offer. Mutt and Gnus do, so
that's why I said both are better mailers. 
I understand, why the pine developers aren't going to support PGP, but 
I still need it, so...

Sorry if there was any kind of misunderstanding about your account,
btw.

Later,
Robin


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-- 
Robin S. Socha, M.A.
Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn
On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better"  
                                  ... so I got myself Linux. 

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Dear all

I am using BSD 2.0 and pine version 3.91, presently I want to upgrade pine
to 3.96 (latest). For this I downloaded source code from cac.washington.edu
ftp site
but unfortunately I can't untar the downloaded file pine3.96.tar.Z.
Can anyone help me regarding extracting the above file and also how to
build the 
pine in my BSD platform, or can anyone suggest me any other alternative 
to upgrade the same.
Can any one help me by giving the pine 3.96 already compiled in BSD
environment?

Please mail me directly to 
sujoy@allindia.com

thanks

warm regards

Sujoy

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Sum Pui Leung wrote:
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> how can I save file into pine for attachment
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Aditya Aryadi Duma wrote:
> 
>       Hi,
>    thanks fery much abaut your informansion but can u give it to me some
> info. abaut E-MAIL because i don,t how to used E-MAIL,thank were ever u
> want to give it info.
> 
>      thank bye,                           from adit,
> 
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Jayanta Mukherjee wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> I am using BSD 2.0 and pine 3.91 now I am facing some problem while using
> pine like if the mailbox is too larrge
> or if i receive some large attachment of 10 to 15 K it giving error message
> unable to resize pine windows
> What is soln of this??.
> 
> If I have to upgrade the how do I Upgrade it?
> 
> Any help would be appreciated
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jayanta
> please mail me directly
> jayanta@vedika.co.in
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Jayanta Mukherjee
> Vedika Software                Ph   :91-33-2473810
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> Visit us on Web http://www.fact.com.sg
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Subject: Re: Preauthentication problem with rsh
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Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
> 
> Arnaud Taddei <taddei@mail.cern.ch> writes:
> 
> >       2) anybody who wants to deploy IMAP servers for "big" sites and
> >          wants to rely on this feature will go for trouble (try to tell
> >          users that now they have to use a password)
> 
> Well, we're installed in some "big" sites, and it doesn't seem to be
> a problem. A well designed client will provide an option to cache (in
> memory -- not on disk!) a default password for a given message store, and
> replay it on the users behalf. Thus, you enter the password the first
> time you access the message store, and the client enters it for you
> on any subsequent folder opens against the same server.
> 
> >       4) In the longer term there is a general problem with
> >          preauthentication
> 
> Yup. That's why we highly recommend alternative solutions such
> as Kerberos.
> 
> --lyndon
> 
> Lyndon Nerenberg                                The ESYS Corporation
> Sr. Software Developer
> Server Products                                 http://www.esys.ca/
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Geordi Byron wrote:
> 
> Can I put a bcc in a address list so that I can do a bounce instaid of a
> forward? ie
> 
>         nickname meleager
>         address arete@smart.net
>         bcc 1@1
>             2@2
> 
>                 Be well and happy
> 
>                         Geordi Byron (aka Arete)
> 
>                 http://www.smart.net/~arete/classics
> 
>              [Please cc on-group replies personally to me]
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Subject: Re: How to forward Deferred messages?  HELP.
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Lydia Pablo wrote:
> 
> One of the companies we usually communicate with has Internet connectivity
> problems.  Hence, we have a lot of deferred messages in our mail queue.
> Our sysadmin is on vacation and I need to forward all these deferred
> messages to another address.  Where are these messages stored and how can
> these messages be forwarded?  We have PINE for AIX installed.
> 
> Would appreciate any help.
> 
> Thanks,
> Lydia Pablo
> l.pablo@saturn.sbf.com
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Subject: Re: Pine3.95 and IMAP4
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Joe Morris wrote:
> 
> In article <5pdnrb$43o@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca>, cyberhaggis@.karsy.org wrote:
> |Does Pine 3.95 work OK with IMAP4? Specifically the UW Imap4 Rev1 server?
> 
> |We need to know if it'll work in this fashion until Pine 4.00 comes out
> 
> Working fine on this end.
> 
> _______________________________________________________________
> Joe Morris  -  morris@unc.edu  -  http://sunsite.unc.edu/morris
> Academic Technology and Networks (formerly OIT), Development
> University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
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Davide Sacchetti wrote:
> 
> Hello, pine community, I'm a pine beginner, my problem is:
> I've used Digital dxmailer for two years (alpha OSF/1 environment),
> and now I've a lot of mails, saved by that mailer; as I'd like to
> use pine but not to loose my previous mails, I'm asking if it exists
> a converter. For what I saw, the major difference in the formats is that
> Digital dxmailer saves each mail into a separate file.
> 
> Any help would be greately appreciated
> 
> | Davide Sacchetti     CMIRL Centro Meteo-Idrologico Regione Liguria |
>  \ Genova University, Physics Dep. Via Dodecaneso, 33, 16146, Genova \
>  / e-mail davide@cmirl1.ge.infn.it       http://www.cmirl.ge.infn.it /
> |          tel +39(0)10 3536478              fax +39 (0)10 353626    |

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Paul O Bartlett wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Geordi Byron wrote:
> 
> > Can I put a bcc in a address list so that I can do a bounce instaid of a
> > forward? ie
> >
> >       nickname meleager
> >       address arete@smart.net
> >       bcc 1@1
> >           2@2
> 
>     No.  Address lists are nothing but lists of addresses (or aliases,
> which represent addresses).  You may, however, put an address list in
> the Bcc: field in the header of a message.
> 
> Paul                             <pobart@access.digex.net>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA
> Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key
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Bill Johnson wrote:
> 
> We are trying to run pine on Sequent ptx.  For resons having to do
> with our core application ("minotaur") and multiple terminfo's, we
> have to call pine from a script, which is shown, along with a lot of
> other stuff, below.  The problem is, I (user jack) am the only user
> who can actually use pine.  I suspect this is because I have the same
> user id and effective user id, which is also the same as the id as
> the process which calls the script which calls pine.  Other users are
> not so priveleged.
> 
>  When login judy (or anyone other than jack)
> tries to run pine the first time, it opens, but reports the following
> message:  "[Error saving configuration in file
> "/s/users/judy/.pinerc": Cross-device link]"
> 
> On subsequent attempts, pine refuses to run.  The message is:
> "The "/s/users/judy/mail" subdirectory already exists, but it
> is not writable by Pine so Pine cannot run.  Please correct the
> permissions and restart Pine."  This message persists even if the
> mail directory's permissions are fully open to user, group and world.
> 
> I suspect this has something to do with real user id and effective
> user id, but really don't have a clue where to go from here.   All
> help is deeply appreciated.
> 
> Here is what we look like:
> 
> Entries from the password file:
> minos:x:100:100:Minos,,:/s/minos:/bin/csh
> jack:x:100:100:Bill Johnson:/s/users/jack:/bin/sh
> judy:x:764:100:Judy:/s/users/judy:/bin/sh
> 
> /s/minos/Minotaur/Bincustom/pine:
> -rwxr-xr-x    1 minos    users        474 Jul  8 15:49 pine
> 
> the script /s/minos/Minotaur/Bincustom/pine:
>   SHELL="echo Shell functions not available"
>   export SHELL
>   trap "" 2 3
>   # use the native terminfo instead of minos'
>   TERMINFO="/usr/lib/terminfo"
>   export TERMINFO
>   # if this is a wyse60, save that, and make it be a vt100
>   if test "$TERM" = "wyse60"
>    then TERMWAS="wyse60"; echo "\0033~;"
>   fi
>   # treat all terminals as vt100
>   TERM="vt100"
>   export TERM
>   # run pine
>   /u/pine/pine3.96/bin/pine
>   wait
>   # if this was a wyse60, make it be a wyse60 again
>   if test "$TERMWAS"="wyse60"
>    then echo "\0033[42h"
>   fi
>   # return to minos clean
>   exit 0
> 
> /u/pine/pine3.96/bin/pine:
> -rwxr-xr-x    2 root     nuucp    3804656 Jun 17 10:42 pine
> (don't ask; this is where the system administrator put it)
> 
> /usr/mail:
> -rw-rwl---    1 minos  mail       15460 Jul  7 15:56 jack
> -rw-rwl---    1 coord    mail         422 Jul  7 16:59 judy
> 
> /s/users/jack:
> drwxrwx---    4 753      users       1024 Jul  7 16:58 .
> drwx------   83 minos    users       1536 Aug 29  1996 ..
> -rw-r--r--    1 minos    users          0 Jun 17 20:32 .addressbook
> -rw-r--r--    1 minos    users       2285 Jun 17 20:32
> .addressbook.lu
> -rw-------    1 minos    users       7260 Jul  7 16:59 .pine-debug1
> -rw-------    1 minos    users       6517 Jul  7 16:31 .pine-debug2
> -rw-------    1 minos    users       7448 Jul  7 15:56 .pine-debug3
> -rw-------    1 minos    users       7448 Jul  7 15:53 .pine-debug4
> -rw-------    1 minos    users      10379 Jul  7 16:58 .pinerc
> drwx------    2 minos    users        512 Jul  7 16:59 mail
> 
> /s/users/judy:
> drwxrwx---    4 judy    users        512 Jul  8 15:51 .
> drwx------   83 minos    users       1536 Aug 29  1996 ..
> -rw-------    1 minos    users       5808 Jul  8 15:51 .pine-debug1
> -rw-------    1 minos    users       5808 Jul  8 15:51 .pine-debug2
> -rw-------    1 minos    users       6500 Jul  8 15:51 .pine-debug3
> drwx------    2 minos    users        512 Jul  8 15:50 mail
> 
> ********************
> Bill Johnson
> CEL Regional Library
> Savannah, Georgia
> ********************
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We are having problems trying to get both PC Pine and UNIX Pine provide
the desired "From" address when replying to mail messages.

We're using Netscape's mailserver 2.02. We recently changed our domain
domain and along with it we decided to change the structure for email
addresses from lastnamefirstinitial@domain (8 letter max.) to
firstname.lastname@domain (no 8 letter limit).

In addition to Pine users we also have people using Netscape mail
clients.  Netscape client can get its "From" information from the
primary alias on the server which for us now is
firstname.lastname@domain.  This alias is independent of the POP/IMAP
username on the server. PC Pine seems to get its "From:" information
from user-id and user-domain specs in pinerc.  "user-id" maps back to
POP/IMAP username on the server for authentication, so by changing this
parameter to firstname.lastname on both the server and within pinerc
everything works OK..

Our problem is that the same people who use PCPine or Communicator on
site also login via a terminal shell from home to the UNIX box mail
server.  Here they need UNIX Pine.  UNIX pine config files have no
user-id field. user-id appears to be mapped to /etc/passwd which has the
8 character limit.  Typing in firstname.lastname and overwriting the
UNIX account id that shows up by default will provide access to inbox,
but then any navigation to other areas will continue to generate
user-id/password requests with UNIX account id showing up time after
time. I have to log in about four times to send a message
using firstname.lastname as a user-id.

Is it possible to have a configuration that meets all of the parameters
I have specified (i.e., first.lastname@domain "From" identifier, and
compatibility with both UNIX Pine and PC Pine clients)?  I assume I may
be overlooking something as firstname.lastname@domain is a fairly
standard addressing scheme.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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On 9 Jul 1997 11:18:30 GMT, Sven Guckes <guckes@math.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
>> Does it support IMAP?
>
>Not yet.  Real soon now.

I haven't looked at PINE's IMAP support, but I suspect it is much more
functional that Mutt's first go is.  Right now there is only basic support
for reading mailboxes and things like searching the body of a message don't
work.

>> Is there a Win95 version of it?
>
>No.  However, Fefe once compiled it for DOS to be able to read mail folders
>with it.  I don't expect a real DOS post any time soon, but I fear that once
>Mutt-1.0 is released that DOS users will cry out for it.
>
>> Can you change the From header while in the midst of composing a message?
>
>Yes - with "header editing".  Just ":set edit_hdrs" before replying
>and the header will be part of the edit buffer for your editor.
>This allows to change the From: line, too.

You can also automatically set arbitrary header fields based on which
mailbox you are reading or who you are sending mail to.

>Btw:  Mutt also has support for MIME, PGP, and color.  :-)

Threading is also another popular feature.

me
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I'm using pc-pin (win95) and would like to know where to find an external
spell checking prg. that I can use with pine's ctrl-t (To Spell) feature.


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Forgive my intrusion on this list, but my local support staff can't seem to
replicate this problem, which occurs on every computer with NT of any flavor
I've ever used for telnetting.

I'm telnetting from a large facility which has both Unix machines (SGIs) and
NT machines (running NT 4.0).

When invoking pine3.95 from the SGIs, the window on pine stays the same size
as the window on the SGI. When invoking pine3.95 from the NT machines, the
window resizes to 24 lines by 80 columns.

A log of this actually appears in the .pine-debug file.

	---- write_pinerc ----
	Context mail/[] type: LOCAL
	new win size -----<24 80>-----

What is causing pine to arbitrarily set a "new win size" without a request for
such, and how can I defeat it? Why doesn't the same thing occur when I telnet
from the SGI?

Please forgive me if this isn't the correct place to request this info, but
since it will be awhile before my ISP (Primenet/Globalnet) upgrades to 3.96,
and bug reports for 3.95 are not receiving a very high priority, I don't
really know where else to turn. I prefer pine over the other Unix mail
readers.

Thanks in advance for any help or advice I may receive.


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ok-i read the faq and a bunch of other stuff on the university's webpage
but there's two things i can't figure out--or just don't understand.
one--why is it when i send a message to a new group it says to:newsgroup
instead of saying my name or e-mail address like it does with everybody
else?

two: i just don't understand how to get an attachment out of my e-mail and
on to my computer so i can run it.  it's an application of some sort.
again--i read what i think may have been the answer--but i really don't
understand what it was saying.  

thanx for any help
-Corvus-
corvus@u.washington.edu





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Hello

I am using BSD 2.0 and pine 3.91 now I am facing some problem while using
pine like if the mailbox is larrge enough
or if i receive some large attachment of 10 to 15 K it giving error message
unable to resize free storage Exiting pine
What is soln of this??.

If I have to upgrade the how do I Upgrade it?

Any help would be appreciated

Thanks

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>> Regarding Re: Different "From:" Addresses; Bruce Toews
>> <Btoews@usa.net> adds: 

>> 1) Changing your header isn't only forgery, it's also a possible
>> danger for your own mail system. Nasty things can happen if you do
>> that.
BT> It's only forgery if you try passing off another address as your
BT> own. In the case of what I'm asking about, that would not be the
BT> case.

It's against RFC 1036 2.1.1. Nuff said. The postmaster who has to deal
with your bounces won't ask what caused them or whether or not you got
any kind of kick out of altering your header.

Robin

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pine 3.96 has started to core dump (floating point exception) again.

It did this a while back, and I resorted to running 3.94 from by
$HOME/bin directory.  

It was core dumping with FreeBSD 2.2.1RELEASE and now it's core
dumping with FreeBSD 2.2.2-STABLE.  I have posted messages to a
newsgroup and to freebsd-questions but received no answers or
suggestions.

I'm not subscribed to this list but would be happy to look at any
archives you may have.

Thanks--

	Annelise


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On Wed, 9 Jul 1997 15:49:52 +0200, Henrik Edlund <piett@piett.com> wrote: 
>It would be nice if one could "postpone-for-later-sending", i.e. when you
>finished the letter locally and are not connected via modem to your ISP
>you could postpone it like that. Later when you dialed up you could
>select the send all "postponed-for-later-sending"-letters.
>Like the queue function in Eudora.

Ehh? 'Postpone' feature has been available in Pine since at least 3.92, I
think. I see that you are using Pine 3.95. This definitely has postpone
capability. Go to your Main/Setup/Config and look for 'postponed-folder'.

Vikas

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References: <slrn5s4kih.hdi.vikas@joshua.insight.att.com> <5ptri8$2m1@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <slrn5s4ut4.hdi.vikas@joshua.insight.att.com> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970708183839.28784A-100000@access1.digex.net>
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On Tue, 8 Jul 1997 18:41:32 -0400, 
Paul O Bartlett <pobart@access.digex.net> wrote: 
>On 8 Jul 1997, Vikas Agnihotri wrote:

>> >application/x-www-url-form-encoded ; cat %s

>> >then you can just view it within pine, instead of saving it.

>    I am not a .mailcap guru, but based on my experience launching 
>Lynx from Pine, you might give this a try:

>application/x-www-url-form-encoded ; cat %s; needsterminal

Thanks.

It is certainly better than without the 'needsterminal' in that now I can
see the contents of the attachment flash briefly on the screen before
coming back the Pine attachment screen.

How can I keep the screen from coming back to Pine's control? Something
like the 'Free output/Capture output' toggle that is there for the '|'
command?

Thanks,
Vikas

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Dear all

I am using BSD 2.0 and pine version 3.91, presently I want to upgrade pine
to 3.96 (latest). For this I downloaded source code from cac.washington.edu
ftp site
but unfortunately I can't untar the downloaded file pine3.96.tar.Z.
Can anyone help me regarding extracting the above file and also how to
build the 
pine in my BSD platform, or can anyone suggest me any other alternative 
to upgrade the same.
Can any one help me by giving the pine 3.96 already compiled in BSD
environment?

Please mail me directly 


thanks

warm regards

Jayanta
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i normally use telnet and pine v3.5 to access my mail on a unix host.

i alos have the option of using a pop3 mail client but it does not let me
see the folders i have created with pine.

how can i access the pin created folders with a program other than pine
with out using telnet and pine.

thanks


mike


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i have suddenly lost several months worth of sent messages. i have not
deleted the folder, nor have i lost any recent messages that i have
received. yet i am unable to find any message that i have sent since may
1997. 


:)


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On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Victor A. Prylipko wrote:

> Can anybody advice my how to setup Pine to receive confirmation of
> delivering my mail to recepients.

    Go into your personal configuration.  Scroll down to 

customized-hdrs:

Add the field

Return-Receipt-To: _your_email_address_

However, this is no guarantee that you will in fact get a delivery
receipt.  Some systems honor the request and many do not.  Receipts 
not part of Internet standards, and there is no way to force issuance
of one.  Also, a receipt only tells you that the mail was delivered. 
It does not tell what, if anything, the recipient did with that mail.

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On 8 Jul 1997, Jennifer Castaneda wrote:

> I am not quite sure but I had about 50 messages in my folder that were
> sent to me......highly classified stuff and I pressed that little X at the
> top right when I was looking at the messages in the folder ....then I got
> out came back in only to find an empty folder..............
> 
> 
> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH  PLEASE HELP RETRIEVE......):

    It's not clear (to me, anyway) just what your situation is, but you
may be out of luck.  (And what were you doing with "highly classified
stuff" on a non-secure system?)

    Were these messages in an incoming mail folder?  Were they in a
newsgroup?  Were they in a folder in which you had already saved them? 
Had you issued a Delete command against them?  I don't recall ever
seeing "that little X at the top right."  What operating system are you
using?  Are you even using Pine, and if so, what version?

    In short, we need a lot more information before we can help you. 
But unless they were newsgroup articles, your prospects for retrieval
may be slim.

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Pine team

I am talking from Brazil, and I can say to you: is a very nice pleasure
talk to you (and practice my english conversation).
The pine software is very useful. Here, in Parana's University, the main
e-mail programs is yours.=20
Well, I'll try to make my questions as clearly as posible. How can I save
my received messages? Please answers me using "soft" and simple english.
(You may write in spanish or portuguese...)
Sorry for my grammars error, and thank you for attention.
Sincerly yours

Leonard Biscaia de Lacerda
=20
P.S.:The text in signature means: "sadness has not end/ happyness has"; it
was created by a great brazilian poet and composer, called Vinicius de
Moraes, close friend of Tom Jobim
______________________________________________________________________=20
=09=09Tristeza n=E3o tem fim
=09=09Felicidade sim
=09=09=09Vinicius de Moraes

=09=09=09=09Leonardo Biscaia de Lacerda
=09=09=09=09blacerda@cce.ufpr.br=09=09=09
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On 9 Jul 1997, Vikas Agnihotri wrote:

> On Tue, 8 Jul 1997 18:41:32 -0400, 
> Paul O Bartlett <pobart@access.digex.net> wrote: 
> 
> >application/x-www-url-form-encoded ; cat %s; needsterminal
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> It is certainly better than without the 'needsterminal' in that now I can
> see the contents of the attachment flash briefly on the screen before
> coming back the Pine attachment screen.
> 
> How can I keep the screen from coming back to Pine's control? Something
> like the 'Free output/Capture output' toggle that is there for the '|'
> command?

Try replacing "needsterminal" with "copiousoutput". This will cause the
data printed by the attachment filter to be displayed in Pine's own
viewer. Doesn't exactly do what you're asking for (now the screen totally
is under Pine's control) but I think it does what you want :-)  Right? 

> Thanks,
> Vikas

My pleasure!

Kind regards,

- Richard Gering.

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I need to learn how to block messages quick.  How do I set up a refusal of
messages sent to me from a certain address?

Jilleen Moore


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I'm getting that same "disk quota exceeded" message.  It seems that the
problem could be resolved right away if only I could save various email
files to disks and get them off of your server.  Please tell me how to
do this.
thanks,
Becky A. Smith
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The email that I send is going to the recipients wtihout and spaces -
as if the text is being packed.  Any idea how to fix this??


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>> In article
>> <Pine.SOL.3.96.970710090516.7265A-100000@Ra.MsState.Edu>,
>> jem5@Ra.MsState.Edu (Jilleen Elaine Moore) writes: 

JEM> I need to learn how to block messages quick.  How do I set up a
JEM> refusal of messages sent to me from a certain address?

Read the fine manual...

1. scan deja news for a some 5-600 postings on this topic on
   comp.mail.pine alone.

2. You're on a Solaris system. Try saying "man procmail", "man
   procmailex", "man filter", "man emil" or whatever.

3. Read Nancy McGough's fabulous mail filtering faq:

	http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/
		filtering-faq/faq.html 
	http://www.smartpages.com/faqs/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html
	ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering_mail_faq.txt
	ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq  

4. Ask on comp.asylum.aol for some instructions on how to build
   mailbombs.

HTH,
Robin


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-- 
Robin S. Socha, M.A.
Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn
On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better"  
                                  ... so I got myself Linux. 

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From: Irena Franchi <d001720c@dc.seflin.org>
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I sent my reply  privately several times, but it always returned.

I'm a writer in Miami, Florida, and I would like to have the address and 
phoe number of your branch in Florida, plese.

Thanks.




Irena Franchi
d001720c@dcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us


On Sun, 6 Jul 1997 ftr45r@aol.com wrote:

> We are a New York based international literary agency with two branch offices, one of 
> which is in* Florida. We are seeking new and> previously published authors, so please 
> adhere to the >following-- guidelines.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> 
> All fiction: send brief <synopsis, first chapter, and include a self addressed, stamped
> envelope (SASE).
> All nonfiction: brief synopsis, first chapter, SASE.>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Short-Stories: brief synopsis, 3 pages, SASE.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Poetry: send 3 poems, SASE.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Please do not send complete manuscript unless we ask for it.
> 
> <<Send to: Woodside International Literary Agency>>
> =33-29 58 Street>>>>>>>>//
> =Woodside, New York>>>>>>>>//
> =11377>>>>>>>
> =Phone (main office):
> =718--651-8145>>>>>>>//
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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On Sat, 5 Jul 1997, Kiat Huang wrote:
> I'd like to copy over my pine addressbook to Netscape Mail readable
> format.  Anyone know of a script?  Please email if you know.  Thanks,
> Kiat
> huangk@maths.ox.ac.uk
> 
> 
Check out the newsgroups with the word *.browsers.* in them. I hope it
convinces you not to make the horrible mistake you are now contemplating.
If you are still able to use Pine, stick with it.


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On Sat, 5 Jul 1997, C. Hanson wrote:
> two: i just don't understand how to get an attachment out of my e-mail and
> on to my computer so i can run it.  it's an application of some sort.
> again--i read what i think may have been the answer--but i really don't
> understand what it was saying.  
> thanx for any help
> -Corvus-
> corvus@u.washington.edu
> 
Assuming you are running Pine from a Unix shell, press "V" to "view" the
attachment. Then place the cursor over the line that indicates the
attachment. Then press "S" to save the attachment. Then download it to
your computer.


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I'm using the lastest release of Pine for Solaris.  I use vi as my editor, which
is invoked implicitly.  I just realized that every time I post to a newsgroup,
Pine puts two copies of my signature at the bottom of the message, rather
than one.  Oddly, this doesn't happen when I send email messages.

I feel kind of like someone who has just found out that he has been walking
around the office with his fly down.  What's worse, I don't know how to fix it.
My .signature file has only one copy of my signature in it.  Does anyone know
what I should check to fix this?

(BTW, I don't see two signatures in the messages before I send them, so with
my luck this message won't contain two signatures, and I'll end up looking like
an even bigger fool than apparrently I already am.  :-))

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mailto:hand@scf.usc.edu       http://www-scf.usc.edu/~hand       news:alt.david

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On 10 Jul 1997, David Michael Hand wrote:

> I'm using the lastest release of Pine for Solaris.  I use vi as my editor, which
> is invoked implicitly.  I just realized that every time I post to a newsgroup,
> Pine puts two copies of my signature at the bottom of the message, rather
> than one.  Oddly, this doesn't happen when I send email messages.

I'm guessing it is the news server causing your problem.  Notice the
difference below.

> _______________________________________________________________________________
>                       D A V I D   M I C H A E L   H A N D
> mailto:hand@scf.usc.edu       http://www-scf.usc.edu/~hand       news:alt.david
> 
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> 

See that there are 3 sets of "-"?  

Suggest you edit your .signature to *not* have the long string of "-" but
to have simply 2 like you see below.  You can even try 2 first and on the
next line the long string if you *really* like them.

Ed

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Anyone happen to know why e(x)punge doesn't work from within the message
viewing screen in Pine?

Bruce


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Hello

Can any one have any idea about this message Pine Bug " Unable to resize
free storage ,Exiting Pine "
though there are enough space in the server 
by the way This information may need
OS platfrom  BSD 2.0 and pine ver 3.91 
Occured when the mailbox is larrge enough
or if users  receive some large attachment of 5 to 10 K

Any patch file is there to solve this .

Thanks

warm regards
Jayanta

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From: Brett McDonald <brett_mcdonald@aapl.com.au>
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Hi Pines,

I am from Melbourne Australia and work on a Data General AViiON running
DG/UX 5.4R3.10

I need the ability to send attachments with messages and I have read that
pine is able to do this.

I have downloaded a file called pine3_96.gz onto my system but how do I
extract it?

I have been trying to find out about a program called gunzip is this what I
need to use to extract pine? If so, where can I obtain gunzip from?

Pardon my ignorance but if any one could point me in the right direction I
would appreciate it.

Regards,

Brett McDonald




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On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, Bruce Toews wrote:

> Anyone happen to know why e(x)punge doesn't work from within the message
> viewing screen in Pine?

Because it is not defined for use in that screen?

Ed

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I have a message with these headers:

	From: thrall@serv.net (Dean Johnson)
	Subject: Strange message in Console
	Date: 10 Jul 1997 03:25:14 GMT
	Message-ID: <5q1kmq$kjp$1@brockman.serv.net>
	Reply-To: thrall@serv.net
	Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
	To: comp-sys-next-sysadmin@antigone.com
	X-SpamChecker: PASSED
	X-Formail-Reply-To: thrall@serv.net

when I reply to this message, it does not ask me if I want to POST my
reply (ie to the newsgroup 'comp.sys.next.sysadmin') it just asks me if I
want to send it to all the original folks via email.

I asked this before and got no responses... or our news server was having
problems.  Is there something besides the 'Newsgroups' line that it checks
for??

Thanks
TjL

ps -- please CC me if possible, since our Usenet connection is
occasionally flaky.




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On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Timothy Luoma wrote:
>I have a message with these headers:
>
>	From: thrall@serv.net (Dean Johnson)
>	Subject: Strange message in Console
>	Date: 10 Jul 1997 03:25:14 GMT
>	Message-ID: <5q1kmq$kjp$1@brockman.serv.net>
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>	X-SpamChecker: PASSED
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>
>when I reply to this message, it does not ask me if I want to POST my
>reply (ie to the newsgroup 'comp.sys.next.sysadmin') it just asks me if I
>want to send it to all the original folks via email.

Perhaps it looks for a "Followup-To" header?

Perhaps the existance of the "Reply-To" header precludes posting?

Perhaps your news server prohibits posting, so Pine doesn't even offer
the option?

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Hi.
Is there any way to configure pine to auto-cc every outgoing message to
some address ???
Please answer, that's kinda important to me.
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>> Regarding > >UNSUBSCRIBE PINE-INFO <jackpot@ilnk.com>; Mike Uhl
>> <shulethr@longbeach.goldinc.com> adds: 

[snipped giant soapbox]

MU> From what I see, you are subscribed to news:comp.mail.pine

I had a nice talk with his tech-support guy over the last two
days. Except for the fact that he condones the use of Windog,
he's a pretty nice chap. He finally managed to unsubscribe this
user. That good news or what? Duh.

BTW, Mike, your signature isn't compliant to Son-of-RFC 1036 4.3.2. It 
is not separated by a "-- ", either. You should consider changing
that.

Later,
Robin


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On 10 Jul 1997, Leonardo Biscaia de Lacerda wrote:
> Well, I'll try to make my questions as clearly as posible. How can I save
> my received messages? Please answers me using "soft" and simple english.

Look at the message, press "S", then press the "ENTER" button.
That will save your message.


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> since expunge is mean't to remove messages that are deleted it kind of
> makes sense that you be at the screen showing the deleted messages before
> using eXpunge. at least that is my guess. :)

That makes sense. I use expunge as a way of manually forcing Pine to check
for new mail, and I often do that involuntarily from within the message
viewing screen. It would be nice if there were some universal "check for
new messages" command. Maybe there is one.???

Bruce


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	"Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" <<scoile@patriot.net> wrote on 

	Fri, 11 Jul 1997 09:45:20 -0400 (EDT) in 

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> Perhaps it looks for a "Followup-To" header?


Nope.

 

> Perhaps the existance of the "Reply-To" header precludes posting?


Nope.

 

> Perhaps your news server prohibits posting, so Pine doesn't even offer

> the option?


Nope.


It looks for a 'Path: ' line.


Someone told me there is a one line mention of this in the release notes.


TjL


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That explanation was exactly right.

Incidentally, you can use control-L to check for new mail from either the
index or message view screens.

-teg

On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, Bruce Toews wrote:

> > since expunge is mean't to remove messages that are deleted it kind of
> > makes sense that you be at the screen showing the deleted messages before
> > using eXpunge. at least that is my guess. :)
> 
> That makes sense. I use expunge as a way of manually forcing Pine to check
> for new mail, and I often do that involuntarily from within the message
> viewing screen. It would be nice if there were some universal "check for
> new messages" command. Maybe there is one.???
> 
> Bruce
> 
> 


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After working painlessly for months, the postponed message feature on my
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I'm having a bit of trouple and as it was covered *3* times recently, I
don't want to bring it up again. Where can I find an archive of the
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From: Gabriela Segarra <gaby@lsu.edu>
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Hello,
I was wondering if anybody has ever come across the following error
when updating the pine addressbook:
 	
Addrbook changed by another process, aborting our change to avoid 	
damage...]
   
I am using PCpine v.3.96 on windows NT (pcp_w32.zip). I started having 
this problem already with v.3.95 and thought that maybe upgrading was
the answer but it is not. I've wiped out my addressbook (which was big)
and deleted also de corresponding *.lu to try with a brand new
addressbook. But even after creating the first address it does not allow
me to add or edit any entries.

Any clues? Anybody?
If you have any ideas on how to fix this, please send me e-mail to 
gaby@lsu.edu (I don't usually read this group).

Thanks in advance,

Gaby


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I did this a few months ago.  As far as I can remember, it didn't
require any special tricks.  All I did was copy the things from my mac
partition to my linux partition, rename them, and dump them into my
~/mail folder.  As long as you have backups, there's no harm in
trying.  

ciao,

g.y.

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Subject: Re: E(x)punge Key
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References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970711003917.10854A-100000@galileo.cris.com> <slrn5sc8uh.ung.jeff@photuris.jehosophat.com> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970711214846.22730C-100000@mariner.cris.com>
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On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, Bruce Toews wrote:

> That makes sense. I use expunge as a way of manually forcing Pine to check
> for new mail, and I often do that involuntarily from within the message
> viewing screen. It would be nice if there were some universal "check for
> new messages" command. Maybe there is one.???
> 

Well, there is a command, just kinda hidden in the help docs somewhere.
In your INBOX index (or just plain any folder) just hit the down arrow or
Control-L to force a check.  Control-L is slower because it also forces a
screen rewrite.

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It was too hot.


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From: d025622c@dc.seflin.org (Ralph Kappeli)
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I am using a HPC with Windows CE on it. With the Terminal program,
I can't use ^C and ^X commands in PINE.
How can I solve this problem? Any help would be appreciated!
(My server does not have the newest PINE-release)

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From: "Darren Hayes" <darrenh@efn.org>
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Is it possible to auto-forward or auto-copy an email to an email
address? When I am off site I telnet to my ISP and use Pine 3.95 to
compose/send email. I would like to auto enter my email address in
the cc: field so copies of my messages are auto sent back to me
(then at home when I log in via PPP I can access them via Pegasus).
Yes I can manually enter my email address in the cc: field but I
forget too often (or am too lazy ;-). I know how to fcc my sent mail 
to a Pine sent-mail folder but this does not automate the process. I 
still have to manually forward those messages.

Thanks for any info.

Darren
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From: "Robin S. Socha" <r.socha@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de>
To: "Pine Discussion Forum" <pine-info@u.washington.edu>
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>> "RMD" == Regelyn Marie Doton <cs964215@rizal.slu.edu.ph> writes:

RMD> How to get in touch with help environment of using ftp?

Try saying 
	man ftp
for a start. If you find that too difficult, try saying
	ncftp -u <ftp.foo.bar>
Or you might even try one of the X-ftp clients like xftp.

There should be help available in many kinds of formats. You could try 
something like
	locate ftp | grep dvi
and then view that document...

In short: Talk to your local help desk.

HTH,
Robin


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On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better"  
                                  ... so I got myself Linux. 

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This message is being sent to this mailing list weekly in order to
aid readers in finding information about Pine.  Before sending questions 
to the mailing list -- which is mirrored in the newsgroup comp.mail.pine --
please consult these resources:

The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive
help.  Additional information, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, 
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available to perform tasks that Pine itself does not, and more, can be 
accessed:

     - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL:
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awinkler@levtech.com (Anna Winkler) writes:


 >Hi,

 >I am running pine 3.95q on a Sparc 2 running Solaris.

 >I recently starting having problems accessing my mail via pine.
 >When first starting pine, I would get the error that the mail
 >file is in the wrong format.  When I specify the inbox path,
 >I can open one very large message read-only that contains all of
 >the mail messages.

This suggests that the first line of the folder is botched.  Pine is able to
handle several formats, but I have never had any occasion to deal with
anything except Berkeley mbox format.  In that format, which is what Sun and
Berkeley sendmail deliver the mail in, the first line of every message
should look like:

>From username@host.domain Thu Jun 29 15:45 EDT 1995

Then all the headers should follow without any blank lines, followed by a
blank line, then the body, a blankline and another start header in the above
format, and so on.

 >I have no problems looking at the file in unix mail, elm, or
 >an X mail tool that came with CDE.

One of them may have scrambled it.  Elm by default presents the (e)dit
option which opens your spool file in an editor, the single biggest problem
I have had in supporting elm for 6 or 7  years.

 >Has anyone experienced problems like this before?  I'm really frustrated
 >because nothing has changed in the system.

Something may have, but probably you inadvertently did something.  You did
not by any chance open the mail spool with a GNU EMACS mailreader did you?

 >Another variable to mention, I use a perl script called 'unixpop' to
 >move mail from a remote machine to my local machine.  It was working fine
 >before with pine, so although it is suspicious, it doesn't make sense.

 >Thanks in advance for any help,
 >Anna Winkler
 >awinkler@levtech.com



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Hi!
 I have a very simple question. When we sent a message without the
address by mistake,will it be saved/coped in sent-mail? Can we open 
this mail?
This is my question and I hope you will answer me as soon as possible.
Thank you.

Sukan.


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From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri)
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Hello,
 If one sets the ACTION attribute of a HTML FORM tag to "mailto:username",
the results of the form submission are mailed to the specified user.

Unfortunately, this mail is sent by most browsers as a attachment of type
application/x-www-url-form-encoded or something like that. 

The attachment data is nothing but plain-text, so there is no reason why
Pine's internal viewer cant handle it, but because of the unknown
attachment type, I am forced to save it to a file and then view it outside
of Pine.

Question:
  How can I tell Pine that this application/x-www-url-form-encoded
attachment is really text/plain and to therefore show it in the internal
viewer?

What do I put in my .mailcap for this attachment type to indicate its
equivalent handling as the text/plain MIME type?

Thanks,
Vikas


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Is there anyway to operate on multiple news groups in the way we can
operate on multiple postings or email messages?  Sometimes, because I have
been away, I would like to set all my subscribed groups as read. Is there
anyway to do that all at once, rather than opening each group individualy. 
Thank you
Tommy


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> From: Bruce Toews <Btoews@usa.net>

> It would be nice if there were some universal "check for
> new messages" command. Maybe there is one.???
> Bruce


If you enable-mail-check-cue in your pine config you can use Ctrl L to
check for messages

						Madison


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On 29 Jun 1997, bhavinsh wrote:

> Everytime I compose to a newsgroup, the sender name (next to date) always
> says To:alt.binaries.....(name of newsgroup).  How do I get my name to be
> in there?

    Old, old, old, old, old Frequently Asked Question.  Pine is
designed that way but gives you the option to change it.  Go into 
your personal configuration, scroll down to index-format, and read 
the online help.  (When all else fails, read the instruction book.)

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On 9 Jul 1997, Vikas Agnihotri wrote:

> On Tue, 8 Jul 1997 18:41:32 -0400, 
> Paul O Bartlett <pobart@access.digex.net> wrote: 
> >On 8 Jul 1997, Vikas Agnihotri wrote:
> 
> >> >application/x-www-url-form-encoded ; cat %s
> 
> >> >then you can just view it within pine, instead of saving it.
> 
> >    I am not a .mailcap guru, but based on my experience launching 
> >Lynx from Pine, you might give this a try:
> 
> >application/x-www-url-form-encoded ; cat %s; needsterminal
> 
> It is certainly better than without the 'needsterminal' in that now I can
> see the contents of the attachment flash briefly on the screen before
> coming back the Pine attachment screen.
> 
> How can I keep the screen from coming back to Pine's control? Something
> like the 'Free output/Capture output' toggle that is there for the '|'
> command?

Instead of cat, use something like pg or less that will pause for
user-input before returning...

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I have a printer thats a Hewlett Packard DeskJet 600C, and It wond print
color. It's supposed to, and always has but now it won't. the carrilage
is full, I've checked the settings and there on color.I just don't get
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Hi!

Can anyone please tell me about the following :

1. I want to reply automatically to all my e-mails. Can this be done.
2. I want to save all the mails recieved automatically.
3. Can I forward mail to another address.

I use Pine on UNIX systems.

Thank you,
Sanjay.


Sanjay Kharche
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On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Sukanthy.R wrote:

>  I have a very simple question. When we sent a message without the
> address by mistake,will it be saved/coped in sent-mail? Can we open 
> this mail?
> This is my question and I hope you will answer me as soon as possible.

Yes.

BTW, you could have simply tried it yourself......its called an
"experiment".

Ed

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On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Sanjay Kharche wrote:

> Can anyone please tell me about the following :
> 
> 1. I want to reply automatically to all my e-mails. Can this be done.

Yes, but not with pine.  Check the archives of this mailing
list/newsgroup.  Your question was asked/answered within the past week.

> 2. I want to save all the mails recieved automatically.

You need to be more specific about this question.  The answer is yes, but
you may have to check the archives again.

> 3. Can I forward mail to another address.

Yes.  On your system type "man forward" or "man sendmail".  Look for
information concerning the ".forward" file.

Ed

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On Sat, 12 Jul 1997, Darren Hayes wrote:

> Is it possible to auto-forward or auto-copy an email to an email
> address? When I am off site I telnet to my ISP and use Pine 3.95 to
> compose/send email. I would like to auto enter my email address in
> the cc: field so copies of my messages are auto sent back to me
> (then at home when I log in via PPP I can access them via Pegasus).
> Yes I can manually enter my email address in the cc: field but I
> forget too often (or am too lazy ;-). I know how to fcc my sent mail 
> to a Pine sent-mail folder but this does not automate the process. I 
> still have to manually forward those messages.
> 

Go to setup/configure.  Find the line that says "customized-headers".

Add an entry for "Cc: user@foo.bar.com"

You're done.

Ed

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 I'm having no problems sending attachments of any sort, yet when the 
mail goes out I get a notice on the screen saying something about 'error 
positioning' and 'invalid attachment argument' or somesuch.  
 Anyone have a clue what it means?


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where would i find a version of pine to run under a Sun computer?

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>> "CL" == Chris Lusena <lusena@cs.engr.uky.edu> writes:

CL> It this possable? 

No. Mutt could do it, though. Duh.

CL> I would like to write a script that sends variosu files to people
CL> automatically, using MIME attachments.

Well, you have mail... Since you didn't say what "automatically"
means, I'm not quite sure what to say, but using procmail would be
_the_ solution if you want to do things like sending pgp-keys upon
request etc. Procmail's commands.rc has some nifty examples you might
be interested in.

CL> Please respond via email.

If you can post, you can read, too.

CL> --Chris 
That's "-- " and a linefeed...

Later,
Robin

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On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, GTS wrote:

> where would i find a version of pine to run under a Sun computer?

Look to: http://www.washington.edu/pine/

Ed

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 Sir,
    please give me more information about pine. I am in
  cyberspace. I am a new user. So please guide me.

    My add: maktil<maktil@cyberspace.org>




					Yours faithfully ,
					  Maktil
					India


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From: kpwong@psy.cuhk.hk (Kit-pui Wong)
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Hello, 

We have a HP 9000 712/60 running HPUX 9.05, being used
as our SMTP server. Recently I found that there is a
"serious" error - the /usr/lib/aliases developed a 
"memory effect". 

When an old alias is removed, newalias is executed, this 
pariticular alias is still retained somewhere in the system ! 
Since we are running NIS, I have also run ypmake in order
ensure no old "memory" is being kept. However, it failed !

i.e. once the following line is created in /usr/lib/aliases,
it is kept forever!!
-----------------------

fool: fooltoo@abc.xyz

------------------------

It became a great problem for us. Any expert here please
advise me how to completely flush away stray memory of 
this kind.

Please drop me an email of your hint.
    kpwong@psy.cuhk.edu.hk

Many thanks in advance!
KiT


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Go to the setup screen off the main menu, choose configure. Scroll down
until you find a prompt about custom-hdr, or something to that effect. Hit
A for add, and type in

Reply-to: name@domain.com

where name@domain.com is your Internet address. I wish everyone gave
advice as concise. I tend to find that whenever I ask how to do something,
I get five or six people telling me why I don't want to do it before I
actually get my answer.

Bruce



On Sun, 13 Jul 1997 engelke@rumms.uni-mannheim.de wrote:

> Hi All!
> 
> I would like to set up my reply-addres with pine but I can't fiend any
> option in the configuration option of my pine on our unix server.
> any hints?
> 
> cu,
> 	thiemo.
> 
> 


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We have been using pine 3.91 under unix quite happily and users
are able to type chinese (8bit BIG-5) characters in their mail
But after we upgraded to 3.96 yesterday, chinese characters cannot
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What do we do to make chinese characters i/o work under this latest
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It this possable? I would like to write a script that sends 
variosu files to people automatically, using MIME attachments.
And since Pine is the only mailer I have access to that uses MIME.
I hope this would be the tool. 

Please respond via email. 

Thanks you for your time and effort.

--Chris Lusena                     U of Kentucky, Dept. of Com. Sci. 
Just a plain boring .SIG, eh?      Lexington, Kentucky, U.S.A. 
email: Lusena@cs.engr.uky.edu      #include<standard disclaimer>
and for the webbies out there:     http://www.cs.engr.uky.edu/~lusena


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I have a remote UNIX account I can access via Telnet.  I am able to use
pine on my systems account but do not know how to use PINE on
a POP email mailboxes I created.  How can I access these accounts in PINE? 
Right now I must use a PC client and access the accounts.

Im other words my account: owner@myhost.com can be accessed through PINE
but not username@myhost.com 

Please help...............


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Got a problem: I have a customer who uses AOL and sends us text files in
Word format for PowerMac. The problem is in the way AOL encodes the
attachments to thier E-mail. The AOL techs told me that the AOL mail
software custom encodes attached files. Can I use BinHex to encode befor
sending them or is there another solution?
-- 
Dana Adams
GM Productions, Inc.
Voice: 770-752-4513
Fax: 770-752-4545
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Hi All!

I would like to set up my reply-addres with pine but I can't fiend any
option in the configuration option of my pine on our unix server.
any hints?

cu,
	thiemo.

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>> Regarding Re: mutt vs. pine (Was: Color in Future Versions of
>> Pine?); Bruce Toews <Btoews@usa.net> adds: 

[...]
>> Anyway, one should not mess with the header, should one?
BT> You have made your position ***EXTREMELY*** clear on the subject. Is
BT> it time, perhaps, to move over and allow for those who might, heaven
BT> forbid, disagree?

Sure, Bruce. Just what /was/ your argument again?

Later,
Robin


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On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better"  
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From: YUEH-KU CHUNG <yxc400z@mail.odu.edu>
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Subject: Bug (ID 773DP): 

Hi There:
	I have a question of using pine. I've applied for a new e-mail
address. So I want to forward all of my new mails to the new address.
Would you teach me how to do that in Unix System? Or what command or
setting should I use? I appreciate  your help.
							Henry Chung



 

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  kblock-passwd-count : 1
       viewer-overlap : 2
        scroll-margin : 0
 status-message-delay : 0
  mail-check-interval : 150
       elm-style-save : no
      header-in-reply : no
        feature-level : sapling
      old-style-reply : no
       save-by-sender : no
======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) =======
========== Feature settings ==========
     allow-talk
  no-assume-slow-link
  no-auto-move-read-msgs
  no-auto-open-next-unread
  no-auto-zoom-after-select
  no-auto-unzoom-after-apply
  no-compose-cut-from-cursor
  no-compose-maps-delete-key-to-ctrl-d
  no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs
  no-compose-send-offers-first-filter
  no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm
  no-delete-skips-deleted
  no-disable-config-cmd
  no-disable-default-in-bug-report
  no-disable-busy-alarm
  no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd
  no-disable-keymenu
  no-disable-password-cmd
  no-disable-update-cmd
  no-disable-signature-edit-cmd
  no-enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation
  no-enable-8bit-nntp-posting
  no-enable-aggregate-command-set
  no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd
  no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly
  no-enable-background-sending
  no-enable-bounce-cmd
  no-enable-cruise-mode
  no-enable-cruise-mode-delete
  no-enable-dot-files
  no-enable-dot-folders
  no-enable-flag-cmd
  no-enable-flag-screen-implicitly
  no-enable-full-header-cmd
  no-enable-goto-in-file-browser
  no-enable-incoming-folders
  no-enable-jump-shortcut
  no-enable-mail-check-cue
  no-enable-mouse-in-xterm
  no-enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon
  no-enable-suspend
  no-enable-tab-completion
  no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd
  no-enable-verbose-smtp-posting
  no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks
  no-expanded-view-of-distribution-lists
  no-expanded-view-of-folders
  no-expunge-without-confirm
  no-fcc-on-bounce
  no-include-attachments-in-reply
  no-include-header-in-reply
  no-include-text-in-reply
  no-news-approximates-new-status
  no-news-post-without-validation
  no-news-read-in-newsrc-order
  no-pass-control-characters-as-is
  no-preserve-start-stop-characters
  no-print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt
  no-print-includes-from-line
  no-print-index-enabled
  no-print-formfeed-between-messages
  no-quell-dead-letter-on-cancel
  no-quell-lock-failure-warnings
  no-quell-status-message-beeping
  no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file
  no-quit-without-confirm
  no-reply-always-uses-reply-to
  no-save-aggregates-copy-sequence
  no-save-will-quote-leading-froms
  no-save-will-not-delete
  no-save-will-advance
  no-select-without-confirm
  no-show-cursor
  no-show-selected-in-boldface
  no-signature-at-bottom
  no-single-column-folder-list
  no-tab-visits-next-new-message-only
  no-use-current-dir
  no-use-function-keys
  no-use-sender-not-x-sender
  no-use-subshell-for-suspend
========== Latest keystrokes ==========
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	 	(0x0020)
	RETURN	(0x000d)
	i	(0x0069)
	d	(0x0064)
	m	(0x006d)
	c	(0x0063)
	l	(0x006c)
	x	(0x0078)
	x	(0x0078)
	x	(0x0078)
	n	(0x006e)
	x	(0x0078)
	x	(0x0078)
	x	(0x0078)
	n	(0x006e)
	x	(0x0078)
	x	(0x0078)
	x	(0x0078)
	n	(0x006e)
	x	(0x0078)
	n	(0x006e)
	x	(0x0078)
	n	(0x006e)
	x	(0x0078)
	n	(0x006e)
	x	(0x0078)
	n	(0x006e)
	x	(0x0078)
	n	(0x006e)
	x	(0x0078)
	n	(0x006e)
	x	(0x0078)
	n	(0x006e)
	x	(0x0078)
	n	(0x006e)
	x	(0x0078)
	n	(0x006e)
	x	(0x0078)
	n	(0x006e)
	x	(0x0078)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	x	(0x0078)
	n	(0x006e)
	x	(0x0078)
	n	(0x006e)
	x	(0x0078)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	x	(0x0078)
	x	(0x0078)
	x	(0x0078)
	p	(0x0070)
	x	(0x0078)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	x	(0x0078)
	n	(0x006e)
	x	(0x0078)
	n	(0x006e)
	x	(0x0078)
	n	(0x006e)
	x	(0x0078)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	x	(0x0078)
	s	(0x0073)
	y	(0x0079)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	RETURN	(0x000d)
	c	(0x0063)
	RETURN	(0x000d)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	^H	(0x0008)
	^H	(0x0008)
	^H	(0x0008)
	^H	(0x0008)
	^H	(0x0008)
	^H	(0x0008)
	^H	(0x0008)
	^H	(0x0008)
	^H	(0x0008)
	^H	(0x0008)
	^H	(0x0008)
	^H	(0x0008)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	O	(0x004f)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	O	(0x004f)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	O	(0x004f)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	O	(0x004f)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	O	(0x004f)
	B	(0x0042)
	^H	(0x0008)
	^H	(0x0008)
	^H	(0x0008)
	^H	(0x0008)
	^H	(0x0008)
	^H	(0x0008)
	^H	(0x0008)
	^H	(0x0008)
	^H	(0x0008)
	^H	(0x0008)
	^H	(0x0008)
	^H	(0x0008)
	^H	(0x0008)
	^H	(0x0008)
	^C	(0x0003)
	e	(0x0065)
	a	(0x0061)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	n	(0x006e)
	p	(0x0070)
	p	(0x0070)
	p	(0x0070)
	p	(0x0070)
	RETURN	(0x000d)
	e	(0x0065)
	y	(0x0079)
	 	(0x0020)
	n	(0x006e)
	d	(0x0064)
	y	(0x0079)
	p	(0x0070)
	p	(0x0070)
	p	(0x0070)
	p	(0x0070)
	p	(0x0070)
	p	(0x0070)
	d	(0x0064)
	y	(0x0079)
	i	(0x0069)
	n	(0x006e)
	RETURN	(0x000d)
	 	(0x0020)
	i	(0x0069)
	d	(0x0064)
	m	(0x006d)
	a	(0x0061)
	n	(0x006e)
	d	(0x0064)
	y	(0x0079)
	m	(0x006d)
	s	(0x0073)
	c	(0x0063)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	c	(0x0063)
	^C	(0x0003)
	e	(0x0065)
	r	(0x0072)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	e	(0x0065)
	p	(0x0070)
	p	(0x0070)
	p	(0x0070)
	RETURN	(0x000d)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	b	(0x0062)
	 	(0x0020)
	p	(0x0070)
	RETURN	(0x000d)

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It would be nice if one could "postpone-for-later-sending", i.e. when you
finished the letter locally and are not connected via modem to your ISP
you could postpone it like that. Later when you dialed up you could
select the send all "postponed-for-later-sending"-letters.
Like the queue function in Eudora.

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From: Paul O Bartlett <pobart@access.digex.net>
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Subject: Re: Default entry in cc: field possible?
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On 12 Jul 1997, Darren Hayes wrote:

> Is it possible to auto-forward or auto-copy an email to an email
> address?

    Yes, but not with Pine.  With respect to incoming mail, Pine is
completely passive.  It takes no action on its own.  In fact, most of
the time when mail is coming in, Pine does not even exist.  You need to
use some program which hooks into the mail delivery process, which Pine
does not.  On Un*x systems, procmail is one of the most commonly used
such agents.

>          When I am off site I telnet to my ISP and use Pine 3.95 to
> compose/send email.

    No problem with that.

>                     I would like to auto enter my email address in
> the cc: field so copies of my messages are auto sent back to me
> (then at home when I log in via PPP I can access them via Pegasus).
> Yes I can manually enter my email address in the cc: field but I
> forget too often (or am too lazy ;-).

    If you are too lazy, that's your problem, not ours. :-)  You can,
however, put your other address in the Cc: field in your configuration
so that it is always there unless you consciously take it out.  Read
the instruction book for configuration.

>                                       I know how to fcc my sent mail 
> to a Pine sent-mail folder but this does not automate the process. I 
> still have to manually forward those messages.

    Only if you are not set up correctly with suitable tools and
configuration.  Remember, there are some things Pine was never
designed, intended, or implemented to do.  For some of those tasks, 
you must use tools external to Pine.

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I got the above error while scanning through news groups. It then wouldn't
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engelke@rumms.uni-mannheim.de wrote:
> 
> Hi All!
> 
> I would like to set up my reply-addres with pine but I can't fiend any
> option in the configuration option of my pine on our unix server.
> any hints?
> 
> cu,
>         thiemo.
Hi thiemo.
I got the same problem and I think the only way out is to use the From:
field instead of the real Reply-Address: field. However - most
mailreaders tend to use this field anyhow instead of the reply-field...
You can tell pine in its options the Domain-Part of your From: field,
which would be the first part of the solution. The second part, the
actual username, seems to be a lot more complicated, because Pine always
uses the name you've loged in with. For you that would mean to create a
user engelke on your Unix-System and use only that user to compose or
reply mails. Thats of course not the real McCoy and I'm working on a
better solution, trying to catch the data sent from Pine to Sendmail
(which actually delivers the mail, implying that you did not enter a
mail-server directly in the pine-options..) and replacing the From:
-line. But perhaps other people on this world do have a less-rude way...
Let me know!!!

drago

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	I would like to ask you somethig, why i can not use my cursor to
move the highligted area insteda i have to use command next and previous.
It used to be possible, but not now. Thank you so much for your attention.




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Hello,

I just joined this mailing list today and I could not find any
information in the archives regarding this problem that we found
in Pine 3.96 last week.

We have found that when you go into Pine 3.96, a lock file gets created
in our /tmp area of the system.  This lock file has world read-write
permissions on it.  For example:

-rw-rw-rw-   1 jkrm     consult        5 Jul 11 14:50 /tmp/.78.16ae

So, if someone knows the name of this file and the location of it,
anyone on the system can remove it and then create a new file in its
place with the same name.  This prevents the original user who owned
the lock file from removing it and using pine properly.

This also causes Pine to think that the person's inbox is locked and 
pine will make the inbox read only.  Here are the errors we got from
the Pine debug files:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Userid: ucc4038
Fullname: "Iolanthe UCCtest"
User domain name being used ""
Local Domain name being used "cc.rochester.edu"
Host name being used "uhura.cc.rochester.edu"
Mail Domain name being used (by c-client too)"uhura.cc.rochester.edu"
---- write_pinerc ----
Context mail/[] type: LOCAL
new win size -----<24 80>------
Terminal type: vs100
Context mail/[] type: LOCAL
Context *{news.cc.rochester.edu/nntp}[] type: REMOTE BBOARD OLDTECH
About to open folder "INBOX"    inbox: "INBOX"
IMAP 14:01:48 7/11 mm_log ERROR: SECURITY ALERT: hard link to lock name!
IMAP 14:01:48 7/11 mm_log warn: Can't open mailbox lock, access is readonly
Opened folder "/var/mail/ucc4038" with 4 messages
Sorting by Arrival
IMAP 14:01:48 7/11 mm_log babble: Find of mailbox outside context: /u/guest/test
/ucc4038/.pine-interrupted-mail
- mailcap_free -

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

So, if someone does this to another person, they have essentially made
it impossible for the person to delete any mail from their INBOX.  

This isn't really a security concern, but more of a nuisance than
anything.  If someone does this to another user, all they are doing
is preventing the person from deleting any mail from their INBOX.  They
can't get any system privileges or read the users mail (we think). 

Do we have our Pine configured incorrectly?  Is there anyway to have 
pine use the umask of the person in setting the permissions on this
lock file instead of it having to be world readable and writeable?

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Joe Karam


-- 
Joe Karam                               UNIX Systems and Consulting Group
jkrm@uhura.cc.rochester.edu             U. of Rochester Computing Center
(716) 275-9166                          Taylor Hall, Room 21A


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Have you tried setting the "pass-control-characters-as-is" feature?

-teg

On 11 Jul 1997, P.M.Wong wrote:

> We have been using pine 3.91 under unix quite happily and users
> are able to type chinese (8bit BIG-5) characters in their mail
> But after we upgraded to 3.96 yesterday, chinese characters cannot
> be typed anymore. (Note: the new pico is also used)
> What do we do to make chinese characters i/o work under this latest
> version of PINE
> --
>         __
>    / \_/  )             __   Pui Ming WONG (E-mail: pm@hkbu.edu.hk) 
>   /      ( -------------  }  System Support Programmer, 
>  (  =l=ll===============__}  Computing & Telecomm. Services Centre
>   \   _  (                   Hong Kong Baptist University 
>    \_/ \__)                  224 Waterloo Road, Hong Kong  
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Is there a simple way to get Pine to use tenex format mailfolders by
default? I've been through the documentation and the only thing I can find
is a reference to a `mail.txt' file in $HOME, which doesn't sound right. 
Ideally I'd like Pine to extract mail in Berkeley format from
/var/spool/mail/<user> and splat it in tenex format into $HOME/mail/INBOX,
and create new folders in tenex format.

Also, is there a berkeley->tenex conversion script out there, before I go
and reinvent the wheel?

[I'm running into memory problems with huge -- >10Mb, 600+ msgs -- Berkeley
mailfolders; the machine thrashes for several minutes when such a folder is
opened.  It seems Pine triggers pathological behavior in malloc() such that
a big Berkeley mailfolder wants memory to the tune of O(folder size*10), and
the machine doesn't have 100Mb of real RAM.  There're some messages in the
pine-users archive implying that tenex format does better in this case,
hence the question.]

zw... dreading the day when three people open 10M saved-messages folders
simultaneously and Solaris suicides for lack of swap...

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Hi,
I am a new user of pine and am trying to learn how to get a message to
print.  I have a Mac computer (Performa 637CD) and a Color StyleWriter
2400 printer.  I am using Clarisworks 2.1 as a communication tool.  I have
tried to print from the menu bar at the top of the screen and it prints
everything on the complete communication file.  Could someone please tell
me how to get it to just print the screen or a particular message?  I
would appreciate it!!
Shirley



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From: "Robin S. Socha" <r.socha@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de>
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>> "Sukanthy R" writes:

"R> Hi!  "R> I have a very simple question. When we sent a message
without the "R> address by mistake,will it be saved/coped in
sent-mail? Can we open "R> this mail?  "R> This is my question and I
hope you will answer me as soon as possible.  "R> Thank you.

No, it will bounce and you will then return to your inbox. This will
probably happen immediately. However, you can additionally specify a
fcc: (file carbon copy) for certain users in pines addressbook. Say
M(ain), A(ddressbook).

BTW, your address kinda sucks (i.e. cannot be quoted properly) :-)

Later,
Robin

-- 
Robin S. Socha, M.A.
Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn
On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better"  
                                  ... so I got myself Linux. 

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	To whom it may concern

	I just have a question about how do i talk to someone in pine?
I'm not saying write them an e-mail ok...  For example a friend of mine
was talking to me she said she knew i was in Pine, she said she kept
calling me but I really don't know how to respond...  Would someone please
help me an explain to me more about Pine...  I thank you very very much in
advance....

	sincerely,

********************* Sidney *nukid* Sirany *********************


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Hello,
	I am trying to get Pine running on my pc. I would prefer to run
pc-pine for dos. That leaves me with the following request, I would
appreciate it if anyone would E-mail me if they know the location of the
following, ftp inc's pc/tcp, Novell's LAN Workplace for dos, Sun's
pc/nfs, and Wattc for Packet drivers. I would also like the location of a
packet driver. Please E-mail.
Thank you.
Dave.

Dave Mehler

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Hello;

Is there any filtering mechanism in pine providing me not to get e-mails
from any user ?

Regards, Fuat AKAL.



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Hi...

	After spending a good deal of time trying to debug this in 
sendmail, and having asked it of the sendmail ppl, I've finally narrowed
down a problem with mail to being pine, not sendmail, related...

	If I send email To: <localuser>, using a client like Pegasus,
that connects via SMTP to my local mail server, it gets delivered to
the localuser with a header that says:

To: <localuser>

	Since there is no domain attached to it, when I bring it up in 
Pine with 'full headers disabled', it tells me that its:

To: <localuser>@unspecified-domain

	But, if I bring it up with 'full headers enabled', it comes up
correctly...

	Of course, if I try to reply to the email, including all
recipients, it tries to send to <localuser>@unspecified-domain

	Since I'm trying to convince ppl to switch *to* pine for email,
from elm, and since a good portion of our campus is using Pegasus, I'd
like to fix this "bug" so that pine is usable.  Someone in Pegasus shouldn't
have to enter '<localuser>@<localdomain>', if its to be locally delivered...

	Has anyone else seen this?  Is there a way of fixing it?

	This is under Solaris 2.5.1, using both 3.91 and 3.96 (3.96 being 
the binary available at UofW)...




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On Wed, 16 Jul 1997, Marc Fournier wrote:

> 	Since I'm trying to convince ppl to switch *to* pine for email,
> from elm, and since a good portion of our campus is using Pegasus, I'd
> like to fix this "bug" so that pine is usable.  Someone in Pegasus shouldn't
> have to enter '<localuser>@<localdomain>', if its to be locally delivered...
> 
> 	Has anyone else seen this?  Is there a way of fixing it?
> 
> 	This is under Solaris 2.5.1, using both 3.91 and 3.96 (3.96 being 
> the binary available at UofW)...

Seen it?  No, all of my systems are configured properly.  :-) :-)

I suspect your system may not be properly setup to return a domainname.
Take a look in your /etc/hosts file.  Does the host name appear in the
table before the FQDN?  Like this:

xx.xx.xx.xx	foo foo.bar.com

If so, try setting it to:

xx.xx.xx.xx	foo.bar.com foo

which is what it should be anyway.

Also, you may be able to work around your problem by looking into the
"user-doamin" in the setup/config and setting that in the system-wide
pine config file.  

Another thing, which may not be related, is to set the "defaultdomain"
in /etc ... but maybe that only has to do with NIS.

Ed

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> Seen it?  No, all of my systems are configured properly.  :-) :-)

	Since I just started working here a few months back, and am
still wading through various "interesting features" left by my 
predecessor...I still learning what is and isn't configured properly...

> I suspect your system may not be properly setup to return a domainname.
> Take a look in your /etc/hosts file.  Does the host name appear in the
> table before the FQDN?  Like this:
> 
> xx.xx.xx.xx	foo foo.bar.com
> 
> If so, try setting it to:
> 
> xx.xx.xx.xx	foo.bar.com foo
> 
> which is what it should be anyway.

	Good suggestion, but the end result, I fear, wouldn't be what 
I need :(

	See, the problem is that I have a network of something like 5k
computers (mostly notebooks) that is now configured to read mail and
send mail through one central mail server.  Probably a good 75% of
the mail readers used happens to be Pegasus.

	Now, if I send email from pine, there is no problem, since pine
will (and does) automatically add the domain (@acadiau.ca) to any address
that I just type the local userid for...that is, on outbound email.  But,
Pegasus doesn't do this, which, for my purposes, I can live with...

	What I would like is that if pine displays a message with a header
like:

To: unixsys,scrappy@hub.org

	It leaves it like that, instead of:

To: unixsys@unspecified-domain,scrappy@hub.org

	Which would solve my problem.

	*If*, by your explanation, my system were "properly configured",
I believe you are suggesting that pine should give me:

To: unixsys@iceberg.acadiau.ca,scrappy@hub.org

	As iceberg.acadiau.ca is the system that I'm running my pine
session from...except that there is no user named unixsys on iceberg,
and the domain should be set to @acadiau.ca, if anything...

	Not sure if that makes much more sense then my original...

> Also, you may be able to work around your problem by looking into the
> "user-doamin" in the setup/config and setting that in the system-wide
> pine config file.  

	Good thought, tried that...it does set the outgoing @acadiau.ca,
but doesn't seem to handle the inbound stuff... :(


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> 
> 
> > Seen it?  No, all of my systems are configured properly.  :-) :-)
> 
>       Since I just started working here a few months back, and am
> still wading through various "interesting features" left by my 
> predecessor...I still learning what is and isn't configured properly...

Well, at least you have someone else to blame.  :-) :-)

> > I suspect your system may not be properly setup to return a domainname.
> > Take a look in your /etc/hosts file.  Does the host name appear in the
> > table before the FQDN?  Like this:
> > 
> > xx.xx.xx.xx foo foo.bar.com
> > 
> > If so, try setting it to:
> > 
> > xx.xx.xx.xx foo.bar.com foo
> > 
> > which is what it should be anyway.
> 
>       Good suggestion, but the end result, I fear, wouldn't be what 
> I need :(

OK....but please do make the changes as this format is a "good idea".
 
>       See, the problem is that I have a network of something like 5k
> computers (mostly notebooks) that is now configured to read mail and
> send mail through one central mail server.  Probably a good 75% of
> the mail readers used happens to be Pegasus.
> 
>       Now, if I send email from pine, there is no problem, since pine
> will (and does) automatically add the domain (@acadiau.ca) to any address
> that I just type the local userid for...that is, on outbound email.  But,
> Pegasus doesn't do this, which, for my purposes, I can live with...
> 
>       What I would like is that if pine displays a message with a header
> like:
> 
> To: unixsys,scrappy@hub.org
> 
>       It leaves it like that, instead of:
> 
> To: unixsys@unspecified-domain,scrappy@hub.org
> 
>       Which would solve my problem.

Ahh....now I understand.  I've been a little slow these days....
 
>       *If*, by your explanation, my system were "properly configured",
> I believe you are suggesting that pine should give me:
> 
> To: unixsys@iceberg.acadiau.ca,scrappy@hub.org

Mmmmm....not really.  What I was thinking was the if pine were configured the 
way I mentioned that is what would happen.  But, when I was saying "system" I
was thinking bigger picture than pine alone.

Please read on.

>       As iceberg.acadiau.ca is the system that I'm running my pine
> session from...except that there is no user named unixsys on iceberg,
> and the domain should be set to @acadiau.ca, if anything...
> 
>       Not sure if that makes much more sense then my original...

I'm awake now....if that's any better.
 
> > Also, you may be able to work around your problem by looking into the
> > "user-doamin" in the setup/config and setting that in the system-wide
> > pine config file.  
> 
>       Good thought, tried that...it does set the outgoing @acadiau.ca,
> but doesn't seem to handle the inbound stuff... :(

OK.

Now, are you ready for the *real* solution?

You've stated that on system iceberg.acadiau.ca you could get an email from 
someone on a different system with a name of unixsys.  However, when it 
arrives it arrives as "unixsys".  You've said pine will create/display it as 
"unixsys@unspecified-domain" and thus it is not repliable.

You would like pine to leave it as "unixsys" or "maybe" make it 
"unixsys@acadiau.ca".  However, either of these may also be not repliable.

What *really* needs to be done is to fix your sendmail configuration.  I 
suspect you may be using the stock sendmail.cf supplied with your Solaris box, 
which, IMHO, is a bad idea.  You sendmail should be configured such that it 
tacks on the FQDN to *all* underspecified addresses.  So, the sendmail which 
first received the mail with "unixsys" should have rewritten it to be 
something like "unixsys@foo.acadiau.ca" *or* "unixsys@acadiau.ca" iff you are 
using "universal" addressing.  

Compare my headers with your headers:

In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970716225042.27405A-100000@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970716201020.332Q-100000@iceberg>

Notice that when pine created your Message-ID it was not aware of any 
domainname.  This *is* a problem with your system configuration.  I'm not in a 
possition to test since I don't have an available system I can mis-configure
but doing the "hosts" trick or setting defaultdomain may help.

All in All, you need to fix the problems with your MTA and system.  You should 
not try to cover them up by dinking with pine.

Regards,

Ed


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Hello,
	I'm not sure if my last posting went through, so if it did I'm
sorry. I am trying to get Pc-pine on my computer. I would prefer the dos
version, but I'm not sure what Packet drivers it needs and I don't know
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Could someone teach me how I can hide my email address with pine when I
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Hello everybody,

was there anyone successful in compiling the IMAP server 
on a HPUX 10.20 trusted system?
I tried to compile the latest 4.1.BETA version from
ftp.cac.washington.edu.
I can make hpp, hpx, hxd (none of them works for me), 
but not shp (which should).
The compile results in a series of errors - I'm appending 
the output to the end of this mail. 
If there's any idea, please add a 'cc' to my e-mail - I'm not 
subscribed in this list.

   Bohumil Chalupa
   Dept. Met. Phys., Charles Univ., Prague, Czech Republic
   bochal@met.mff.cuni.cz

>    To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu 
>    Subject: Re: Pine/Imap on trusted HPUX 10.01 
>    From: Mark Crispin <mrc@cac.washington.edu
>    Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:42:00 -0700 
>    
> Get a copy of imap-4 from
>         ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.tar.Z
> and build using the "shp" port instead of "hpp".
> 
> On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Virtual Joe wrote:
> 
> > Has anyone successfully compiled the IMAP daemon for a trusted 
> > HPUS 10.01 system yet? I am having the hardest time making this 
> > work (my C skills are mostly non-existent!).

--------- the output from the compile follows ------------------

$ make shp
        make build OS=shp PROCESS=an AFS=false
Removing old processed sources and binaries...
        rm -rf OSTYPE c-client mtest imapd ipopd
        cd tools;make clean
        rm -f *.o uahelper
Processing sources for shp...
        tools/an "ln -s" src/c-client c-client
        tools/an "ln -s" src/ansilib c-client
        ln -s `pwd`/src/kerberos/* c-client
        tools/an "ln -s" src/osdep/unix c-client
        sh src/afs/afs-patches false `pwd`/src/afs `pwd`/c-client
        tools/an "ln -s" src/mtest mtest
        tools/an "ln -s" src/ipopd ipopd
        tools/an "ln -s" src/imapd imapd
        echo shp > OSTYPE
Building processed sources for shp...
        cd c-client;make `cat ../OSTYPE` CC=cc
        rm -f siglocal.c
        ln -s sig_psx.c siglocal.c
        make c-client.a OS=shp EXTRADRIVERS="mbox" \
                STDPROTO=unixproto MAILSPOOL=/usr/mail \
                ACTIVEFILE=/usr/lib/news/active NEWSSPOOL=/usr/spool/news
\
                RSH=remsh RSHPATH=/usr/bin/remsh \
                CFLAGS="-g -DNFSKLUDGE " \
                RANLIB=true LDFLAGS="-lnet -lsec"
        ./drivers mbox imap nntp pop3 mh mx mbx tenex mtx mmdf unix news
phile dummy
        ./mkauths  log
        rm -f CCTYPE CFLAGS LDFLAGS osdep.h
        echo cc > CCTYPE
        echo -g -DNFSKLUDGE  > CFLAGS
        echo -lnet -lsec  > LDFLAGS
        ln -s os_shp.h osdep.h
        cc -g -DNFSKLUDGE  -c mail.c
cc: "mail.h", line 519: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 521: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 523: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 716: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 793: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "f".
cc: "mail.h", line 794: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "GETS_DATA".
cc: "mail.h", line 795: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 796: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 800: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "challenger".
cc: "mail.h", line 801: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 805: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "responder".
cc: "mail.h", line 807: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 808: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "ENVELOPE".
cc: "mail.h", line 809: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 809: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "OVERVIEW".
cc: "mail.h", line 817: warning 5: "const" will become a keyword.
cc: "mail.h", line 817: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "char".
cc: "mail.h", line 818: warning 5: "const" will become a keyword.
cc: "mail.h", line 818: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "char".
cc: "mail.h", line 885: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 887: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 889: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 891: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 893: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 895: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 897: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 899: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 901: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 904: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 906: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 908: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 910: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 912: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 912: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "overview_t".
cc: "mail.h", line 914: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "ENVELOPE".
cc: "mail.h", line 917: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 920: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 920: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "STRING".
cc: "mail.h", line 922: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 926: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 928: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 930: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 932: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 932: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 934: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 936: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 939: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 941: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 943: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 945: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 947: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 949: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 950: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "STRING".
cc: "mail.h", line 952: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1002: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1003: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1004: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1005: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1006: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1007: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1008: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1009: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1009: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "MAILSTATUS".
cc: "mail.h", line 1012: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1013: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1014: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1015: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1017: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1020: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1021: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1022: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1024: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1025: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1027: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "NETMBX".
cc: "mail.h", line 1028: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1029: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1030: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1031: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1032: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1033: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1034: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1035: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1036: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1037: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1038: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1039: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: "mail.h", line 1040: error 1000: Unexpected symbol: "*".
cc: error 2017: Cannot recover from earlier errors, terminating.
*** Error exit code 1

Stop.
*** Error exit code 1

Stop.
*** Error exit code 1

Stop.
*** Error exit code 1

Stop.
$ 
--------------------- end of file ---------------------------


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On Wed, 16 Jul 1997, Fuat AKAL wrote:

# Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 13:37:24 +0400 (EET DST)
# From: Fuat AKAL <akal@eti.cc.hun.edu.tr>
# To: Pine Discussion Forum <pine-info@u.washington.edu>
# Subject: filtering...
# 
# 
# Hello;
# 
# Is there any filtering mechanism in pine providing me not to get e-mails
# from any user ?
# 
# Regards, Fuat AKAL.

This is one of the most frequently asked questions (FAQs) about PINE.  The
answer can be found among other PINE FAQs at

http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/FAQs.html 

	or at

ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/FAQs.txt

and I have also appended it to this message for your convenience.  The
technical support people at your university should be able to help you set
up filtering mechanisms. 

----------------------------------------------------
 Stefan Kramer    \|/    skramer@cac.washington.edu
----------------------------------------------------


How can I filter messages into different incoming folders?

Pine does not perform delivery filtering; that is the function of other
programs, such as (on Unix hosts) "procmail" or "mailagent." For details
on selection and configuration of such programs, see the Filtering Mail FAQ
(by Nancy McGough) at one of the following locations: 

ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html
ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering_mail_faq.txt

Once you have successfully set up your delivery filtering, you will have
new mail arriving in several different folders, in addition to your INBOX.
You can then access these folders just like any other mail folder. You can
also define a collection of incoming message folders in Pine, through which
you can then TAB to read new messages. For more information, see Pine's
internal help on the enable-incoming-folders feature in Pine's SETUP
CONFIGURATION menu.



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Hello,
	I have found sights, where I can download dos packet drivers. I
need to know which one I am looking for, also, does anyone know a voice
number for u.washington's cac? Please E-mail.
Dave.

Dave Mehler

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I'm setting up a new email account at my new institution, using pine as I
did at my previous school. Yesterday I started building my addressbook and
configuring pine. Today when I tried to take an address and/or add an
address, I get the following sequence:
	- addressbook problem...attempting to resync...
	- aborting our change to avoid damage
	- resetting addressbook
	- now in addressbook (which claims it is empty)

Can you help?? Thanks.

Mary Todd
Department of History
Concordia University
River Forest IL



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Hello,
	I hope this message reaches someone who uses Pc-pine for dos, or
who knows how to configure it. I am trying to get Pc-pine working on my
computer. I would prefer the Dos versions, but in one of the .txt files
it says I can only use ftp's pc/tcp, Novell's LAN Workplace for Dos,
sun's pc/nfs, and wattcp for packet diriers. Anyone who could direct me
as to where I can get any of these items, please E-mail me. Also, what
additional software will I need, I already have the isp, what else and
where can I get it? On the Packet drivers, please be specific as to
filename &/or location, if you know it. Please E-mail. Thanks loads.
Dave.

Dave Mehler

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[originally sent as usenet message, I'm now using the mailing list]

I've not tried making `.' as a location of mail folders but this seems
like a horrible hack.

Thanks

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Alan Thew                                       alan.thew@liverpool.ac.uk
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From: alan.thew@liverpool.ac.uk (Alan Thew)
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Hi,
this is probably really old but I've been using pine since before 3.05 and 
it's never been an issue until now.

We have a requirement (limited) where we can just point a (Unix) MUA at a file 
and the MUA reads it like a mail folder. Elm does this by 

elm -f file

pine's -f wants to look in ~/mail (or whatever the .pinerc says) and
pine -F is a more/less program.

What have I missed?

Thanks

Alan Thew




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I have a two questions/issues:

1) We would like to remove the option for our users to request the latest
documentation from UW, is this a "hack the source" fix?

2) Does anyone have a sure fire method of ensuring that bug reports go to
a local address rather than UW?

Thanks.

--
Alan Thew                                       alan.thew@liverpool.ac.uk
Computing Services,University of Liverpool      Fax: +44 151 794-4442


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I am now using Pine for my Email and my emulator is Tera Term.  I have two
problems: (I use Windows 95 as my operating system)
	a) If I use the print command under "file" I can only print what
is on the screen and if that is not the full message, then I must scroll
down and print the next section separately, etc.  I cannot use the Y
command in Pine because it will not print, as it used to on my printer. IS
THERE AN EASY SOLUTION TO THIS THAT ANYONE KNOWS OF? 
	b) The screen with the Email message is small--about 4 inches by 8
inches. The "full screen" symbol is dimmed and does not respond.  If I
could enlarge the screen to the full size of my monitor screen, then I
could not only read more quickly but I could print more complete sections
of each message (given the limitation on printing disussed in A above. 

Please Email me any solutions you have.  I tried my local people and they
don't have any

Ira L. Reiss -- reiss001@atlas.socsci.umn.edu
5932 Medicine Lake Road
Minneapolis, Minnesota 55422
Phone: 612-544-8016
Fax: 612-544-6135


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Alan,
Try 
  pine -c0 -f foo

The -c argument defines the context for interpreting -f
  0 = home directory
  1 = incoming folder collection
  2 = first/primary folder collection
  3 = second folder collection
      <etc>

The default is -c2 on the assumption that most of the time you want to get
at a folder in your primary collection.

-teg

On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, Alan Thew wrote:

> [originally sent as usenet message, I'm now using the mailing list]
> 
> I've not tried making `.' as a location of mail folders but this seems
> like a horrible hack.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> --
> Alan Thew                                       alan.thew@liverpool.ac.uk
> Computing Services,University of Liverpool      Fax: +44 151 794-4442
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: alan.thew@liverpool.ac.uk (Alan Thew)
> Subject: reading files as mail boxes (-f and -F NOT)
> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII
> Message-ID: <ED2Fn1.50C@liverpool.ac.uk>
> Organization: The University of Liverpool
> X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.9 (Released Version) (x86 32bit)
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:04:12 GMT
> 
> Hi,
> this is probably really old but I've been using pine since before 3.05 and 
> it's never been an issue until now.
> 
> We have a requirement (limited) where we can just point a (Unix) MUA at a file 
> and the MUA reads it like a mail folder. Elm does this by 
> 
> elm -f file
> 
> pine's -f wants to look in ~/mail (or whatever the .pinerc says) and
> pine -F is a more/less program.
> 
> What have I missed?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Alan Thew
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Hello everyone,
I need some help with attaching files to e-mail, and downloading files
that are attached to e-mail that I read.  I must say that your interface
is a little awkward, nowhere is this sugject mentioned, except to say
that pine accepts SMTP, MNTP, MIME, etc.

Complaints aside, I would appreciate some help, thanks-LAW

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On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, Terry Gray wrote:

> Alan,
> Try 
>   pine -c0 -f foo

Thanks very much. If I try pine -f /tmp/sent it will open after a IMAP
login, is this how it behaves with absolute paths, or have I done
something strange?
> 
> The -c argument defines the context for interpreting -f
>   0 = home directory
>   1 = incoming folder collection
>   2 = first/primary folder collection
>   3 = second folder collection
>       <etc>
> 
> The default is -c2 on the assumption that most of the time you want to get
> at a folder in your primary collection.
> 
> -teg
> 
> On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, Alan Thew wrote:
> 
> > [originally sent as usenet message, I'm now using the mailing list]
> > 
> > I've not tried making `.' as a location of mail folders but this seems
> > like a horrible hack.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > --
> > Alan Thew                                       alan.thew@liverpool.ac.uk
> > Computing Services,University of Liverpool      Fax: +44 151 794-4442
> > 
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: alan.thew@liverpool.ac.uk (Alan Thew)
> > Subject: reading files as mail boxes (-f and -F NOT)
> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII
> > Message-ID: <ED2Fn1.50C@liverpool.ac.uk>
> > Organization: The University of Liverpool
> > X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.9 (Released Version) (x86 32bit)
> > Mime-Version: 1.0
> > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:04:12 GMT
> > 
> > Hi,
> > this is probably really old but I've been using pine since before 3.05 and 
> > it's never been an issue until now.
> > 
> > We have a requirement (limited) where we can just point a (Unix) MUA at a file 
> > and the MUA reads it like a mail folder. Elm does this by 
> > 
> > elm -f file
> > 
> > pine's -f wants to look in ~/mail (or whatever the .pinerc says) and
> > pine -F is a more/less program.
> > 
> > What have I missed?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Alan Thew
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 


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On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, Alan Thew wrote:

> I have a two questions/issues:
> 
> 1) We would like to remove the option for our users to request the latest
> documentation from UW, is this a "hack the source" fix?

Presumably you mean the "Update" command from the Configuration screen
here. If so, there is no need to hack the source, as it can be done quite
nicely using the global configuration file.

Simply add "disable-update-cmd" to the "feature-list=" entry in this file. 
Best put it in pine.conf.fixed (normally in /usr/local/lib) if you want to
make sure your users can't override the value.


If you're referring to the

  SPECIAL OFFER:  Would you like to receive (via email) a brief document
                  entitled "Getting the most out of Pine" ?

message an initial user gets, it looks like you will need to hack the
source (at least it does to me). Check for the calls to phone_home_blurb() 
and phone_home() in pine/pine.c. 


> 2) Does anyone have a sure fire method of ensuring that bug reports go to
> a local address rather than UW?

Again an issue for pine.conf.fixed. Try:

   bugs-fullname=Local Pine Helpdesk (Alan Thew)
   bugs-address=Alan.Thew@liverpool.ac.uk

and wait for the messages to come in :-)

Regards,

- Richard Gering.

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I am requesting help with pine.  My local support staff did not know the
answer and I hope you can help me.  I want to know if there is a way to 
delete a folder after it has been created.  Any information you can share
with me would be helpful.  Thanks for your time and consideration.

Sincerely,
Jennifer Pogue
poguejr@cc3.adams.edu


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Slect the folder in your folder list and press d

On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, Jennifer Pogue (103318) wrote:

> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 12:58:58 -0600 (MDT)
> From: "Jennifer Pogue (103318)" <poguejr@cc3.adams.edu>
> To: Pine Discussion Forum <pine-info@u.washington.edu>
> Subject: question
> 
> I am requesting help with pine.  My local support staff did not know the
> answer and I hope you can help me.  I want to know if there is a way to 
> delete a folder after it has been created.  Any information you can share
> with me would be helpful.  Thanks for your time and consideration.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Jennifer Pogue
> poguejr@cc3.adams.edu
> 
> 


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Go to the folder (L)ist off the main or index menu. Highlight the folder
you want to delete, and hit D. You'll be asked to confirm, your folder
will be deleted, and you can go on your way. If you have basic shell
access, it might be easier to just go into your mail directory off your
home directory and delete the file with the name of that folder manually
... either approach accomplishes the same thing.

Bruce


On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, Jennifer Pogue (103318) wrote:

> I am requesting help with pine.  My local support staff did not know the
> answer and I hope you can help me.  I want to know if there is a way to 
> delete a folder after it has been created.  Any information you can share
> with me would be helpful.  Thanks for your time and consideration.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Jennifer Pogue
> poguejr@cc3.adams.edu
> 
> 


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Subject: Bug (ID 2H66N): Valid multi-part/mixed breaks pine
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The problem is that the boundary=3D field in the header is unquoted.
According to rfc2046 (line 1048) this is perfectly valid if the=20
characters in the boundary string all pass rfc822's rules.

From=20rfc822 the characters in a header atom can be any printable
ascii except space, control characters and the specials: ()<>*,;:\".[]

The header of this messages has the boundary:  _=3D-742
This passes these rules but pine 3.96 does not display the first part of
the message and panics with an abort() if you attempt to view any other
part.

Machine: IBM PC running Linux 2.0.30 with GCC 2.7.2 and libc 5.4.7
Pine Vs: 3.95q and 3.96
Attached message is JUNK!!!

--=20
Rob.                           (Robert de Bath <http://www.cix.co.uk/~mayda=
y>)

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  no-assume-slow-link
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  no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs
  no-compose-send-offers-first-filter
  no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm
  no-delete-skips-deleted
  no-disable-config-cmd
  no-disable-default-in-bug-report
  no-disable-busy-alarm
  no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd
  no-disable-keymenu
  no-disable-password-cmd
  no-disable-update-cmd
  no-disable-signature-edit-cmd
     enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation
  no-enable-8bit-nntp-posting
     enable-aggregate-command-set
     enable-alternate-editor-cmd
  no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly
  no-enable-background-sending
     enable-bounce-cmd
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  no-enable-cruise-mode-delete
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  no-enable-dot-folders
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     enable-full-header-cmd
  no-enable-goto-in-file-browser
     enable-incoming-folders
     enable-jump-shortcut
     enable-mail-check-cue
  no-enable-mouse-in-xterm
  no-enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon
     enable-suspend
     enable-tab-completion
     enable-unix-pipe-cmd
     enable-verbose-smtp-posting
  no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks
  no-expanded-view-of-distribution-lists
  no-expanded-view-of-folders
     expunge-without-confirm
  no-fcc-on-bounce
  no-include-attachments-in-reply
  no-include-header-in-reply
     include-text-in-reply
     news-approximates-new-status
  no-news-post-without-validation
     news-read-in-newsrc-order
  no-pass-control-characters-as-is
  no-preserve-start-stop-characters
     print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt
     print-includes-from-line
  no-print-index-enabled
  no-print-formfeed-between-messages
  no-quell-dead-letter-on-cancel
  no-quell-lock-failure-warnings
  no-quell-status-message-beeping
  no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file
     quit-without-confirm
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  no-save-aggregates-copy-sequence
  no-save-will-quote-leading-froms
  no-save-will-not-delete
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  no-show-cursor
  no-show-selected-in-boldface
  no-signature-at-bottom
  no-single-column-folder-list
  no-tab-visits-next-new-message-only
     use-current-dir
  no-use-function-keys
     use-sender-not-x-sender
  no-use-subshell-for-suspend
========== Latest keystrokes ==========
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	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	RETURN	(0x000d)
	 	(0x0020)
	i	(0x0069)
	l	(0x006c)
	-	(0x002d)
	-	(0x002d)
	RETURN	(0x000d)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	d	(0x0064)
	d	(0x0064)
	d	(0x0064)
	RETURN	(0x000d)
	 	(0x0020)
	n	(0x006e)
	 	(0x0020)
	i	(0x0069)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
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	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
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	d	(0x0064)
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	[	(0x005b)
	C	(0x0043)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	C	(0x0043)
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	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
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	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
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	ESC	(0x001b)
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	ESC	(0x001b)
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	[	(0x005b)
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	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
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	 	(0x0020)
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	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	l	(0x006c)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
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	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
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	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
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	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
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	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
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	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	C	(0x0043)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	D	(0x0044)
	RETURN	(0x000d)
	l	(0x006c)
	RETURN	(0x000d)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	C	(0x0043)
	RETURN	(0x000d)
	RETURN	(0x000d)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	i	(0x0069)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	A	(0x0041)
	RETURN	(0x000d)
	 	(0x0020)
	n	(0x006e)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	 	(0x0020)
	i	(0x0069)
	n	(0x006e)
	RETURN	(0x000d)
	i	(0x0069)
	RETURN	(0x000d)
	i	(0x0069)
	RETURN	(0x000d)
	n	(0x006e)
	p	(0x0070)
	h	(0x0068)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	i	(0x0069)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	RETURN	(0x000d)
	h	(0x0068)
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	h	(0x0068)
	i	(0x0069)
	d	(0x0064)
	u	(0x0075)
	e	(0x0065)
	/	(0x002f)
	t	(0x0074)
	m	(0x006d)
	p	(0x0070)
	/	(0x002f)
	x	(0x0078)
	RETURN	(0x000d)
	o	(0x006f)
	s	(0x0073)
	/	(0x002f)
	t	(0x0074)
	m	(0x006d)
	p	(0x0070)
	/	(0x002f)
	x	(0x0078)
	RETURN	(0x000d)
	u	(0x0075)
	b	(0x0062)
	^C	(0x0003)
	m	(0x006d)
	o	(0x006f)
	b	(0x0062)
	ESC	(0x001b)
	[	(0x005b)
	B	(0x0042)
	RETURN	(0x000d)

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On 15 Jul 1997, Zack Weinberg wrote:

> Is there a simple way to get Pine to use tenex format mailfolders by
> default? I've been through the documentation and the only thing I can find
> is a reference to a `mail.txt' file in $HOME, which doesn't sound right. 
> Ideally I'd like Pine to extract mail in Berkeley format from
> /var/spool/mail/<user> and splat it in tenex format into $HOME/mail/INBOX,
> and create new folders in tenex format.
Pine's support for it proprietary format seems seems a bit spotty, As
far as I can tell you can't say that new folders are to be in tenex format.

The ref to mail.txt is to do with having pine automatically copy INBOX
to that file when it spots mail in the real INBOX. Pine then treats
mail.txt as the INBOX; of course this is useless if you're using procmail.

> Also, is there a berkeley->tenex conversion script out there, before I go
> and reinvent the wheel?
There's a program called 'mbxcvt' in the imap daemon gzip which will
convert a mailbox between pine's various formats. Because it uses the
same interface as pine it is horribly slow but it does get everything.

I've also attached a quick hack C program that converts a mbox folder to
tenex, it loses the 'Status:' and 'X-Status:' info; but only 'cause I
didn't need them: If you want to add them it shouldn't be difficult.
This is just a little slower than 'cp'.

I use this to make procmail create tenex format inboxes with lines like:
| tenex -1 >> linux-kernel

> [I'm running into memory problems with huge -- >10Mb, 600+ msgs -- Berkeley
> mailfolders; the machine thrashes for several minutes when such a folder is
> opened.  It seems Pine triggers pathological behavior in malloc() such that
> a big Berkeley mailfolder wants memory to the tune of O(folder size*10), and
> the machine doesn't have 100Mb of real RAM.  There're some messages in the
> pine-users archive implying that tenex format does better in this case,
> hence the question.]
I use mbox format upto about 800 messages then it gets rather slow; Pine's
implementation of it's tenex format is better and runs out of steam over
about 2-3000 messages.

> zw... dreading the day when three people open 10M saved-messages folders
> simultaneously and Solaris suicides for lack of swap...

-- 
Rob.                           (Robert de Bath <http://www.cix.co.uk/~mayday>)

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From: Rukn Luthra <ruknitas@del2.vsnl.net.in>
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Subject: HOW TO FIND E-MAIL ADDRESS
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DEAR SIR,
WOULD APPRECIATE GREATLY IF YOU COULD KINDLY ADVISE ME ON HOW I CAN USE
YOUR SYSTEM TO FIND OUT SOMEONE'S E-MAIL ADDRERSS.
FOR INSTANCER I NEED KNOW: GITANJALI PANDE'S E-MAIL ADDRESS. HER
RESIDENTIAL ADDRESS IS 580E, 191ST STREET BRONX NY- 10458 U.S.A
TEL:718-2201888 AND SHE IS MOST PROBABLY STUDYING IN THE UNIVERSITY OF NEW
YORK.WOULD LIKE TO SURPRISE HER BY SENDING HER A MESSAGE OUT OF THE BLUE.

THANKS AND LOOKING FORWARD TO HEAR FROM YOU
RUKN LUTHRA


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From: Broken Hearted <willpeng@remus.rutgers.edu>
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Hi Pine Experts!

My name is Willy and I have a question concerning about pc-pine. I am
using pc-pine 3.96 and unix-pine 3.94. I wish to use the mail files from
my unix in my pc. So I use ftp to transfer them to my pc. It works for
most of files, but for one of the file, it gave me a line too long error.
Is there a way to fix it, or do I overlook something that I suppose to do?
And the thing is that file is not the largest file that I have. The
largest file went in no problem. I think it is one of the header in the
file. But how do I suppose to find that header if pine only gave me this:

Sorry, Problem detected. Line too long in mailbox. Very Sorry, pine will
now crash, please report this.

The mailbox is still readable by the unix-pine. 

Anyone have any idea how to fix this problem???

Also another question about sorting speed with a large mailbox. I used
PC-Pine 16 and sort very slow, but PC-Pine 32 and it sort like a few sec.
Why is there so much difference? I am using 16 now because it is only one
have spell checking. When is the 32 spell checker available? So I am using
both 16 and 32. One for composing and one for keeping my old mails. Any
idea on how to solve this one? Maybe wait?? :)

Thanks in advance...

WillYp.
            Numeric: NJ only - 8002120182 Outside NJ - 9089899914 
           Alpha Numeric: Internet - 9089837243.0122826@pagenet.net
       (WWW) http://remus.rutgers.edu/~willpeng <Email> willyp@usa.net



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From: Bruce Toews <Btoews@usa.net>
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Hi. I am trying to set my time zone. I'm on a nation-wide network. I think
my answer lies in the TZ variable. As you can see by the date shown for
this message ... I've got it wrong. I'm in the central time zone. To what
should I be setting my TZ variable? Currently, that line in my .zprofile
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export TZ="CST6CDT"

Can anyone guide and direct me? Thanks.

Bruce


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On Mon, 21 Jul 1997, Rukn Luthra wrote:

> DEAR SIR,
> WOULD APPRECIATE GREATLY IF YOU COULD KINDLY ADVISE ME ON HOW I CAN USE
> YOUR SYSTEM TO FIND OUT SOMEONE'S E-MAIL ADDRERSS.
> FOR INSTANCER I NEED KNOW: GITANJALI PANDE'S E-MAIL ADDRESS. HER
> RESIDENTIAL ADDRESS IS 580E, 191ST STREET BRONX NY- 10458 U.S.A
> TEL:718-2201888 AND SHE IS MOST PROBABLY STUDYING IN THE UNIVERSITY OF NEW
> YORK.WOULD LIKE TO SURPRISE HER BY SENDING HER A MESSAGE OUT OF THE BLUE.
> 
> THANKS AND LOOKING FORWARD TO HEAR FROM YOU

First, don't use all uppercase when sending email.  It is taken to mean
you are SHOUTING.

Second, pine is an email user agent.  For locating a person's email
address you should go to the World Wide Web and use one of the various
search agents.

Third, even though it may be gotten easily, don't send people's telephone
numbers to mailing lists or usenet newsgroups.  It just isn't wise.

Fourth, since you have her phone number....why not call *her* and ask her
what her email address is????  This way you can be sure to get the correct
address.

Fifth, if it is too expensive for you to call her...then send airmail and
include your email address and ask her to email you back.  

Oh, sixth, don't send out residential addresses either....same reason..
it isn't wise.

Regards,

Ed


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if you have a number of folder collections, how do you move emails from
one folder to another within a collection and to folders in another
collections

and how do you move whole forlders to another collection?

examples:

I saved an email to a folder in a collection, and now for whatever
reasons wnat to move the email to another folder.  Ditto, move a folder to
another collection.

Please post to my address as I'm not subscribed to the list   

(If you conveniently know the subscription-request address of Pine list
please let me have it)

Thank you 
John de Boer


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hello all
new subscriber. using v3.93  interested in learning to better use my
folder collections configuration, and send mail to supressed-name
distribution list.
Regards -  John de Boer


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What I am tring to do is the use Pine's SMTP to access a 
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know if you can access your mail on an Exchange Server and what 
Pine files I need for SCO. Please help I'm on a tight deadline. 
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I hav a mac at home, connected by modem to Uni's Unix.  I have a Mac
imagewriter connected to my mac.  How do I print an email to my own
printer?

In the comp lAb at the Uni, I type Y and prompt asks (something like)
Print to attached printer ANSI?   If I type Y it prints.

Here at home, if I type N,the command is cancelled.

I'd like to be able to print a home.         Thank you


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Hello,
	I have a question. I am using pine v3.96 on my computer. I am
getting the following:
Run-time error 6009
-Not enough space for Environment

	Can anyone tell me what this means? Thank you.
Dave.

Dave Mehler

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From: adam@internetnorth.com.au (Adam Kuklycz)
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Ewps wrong address first time :P  Sorry for the inconvenience!!

Adam.

>Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 12:16:20 +1000
>To:pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu
>From:adam@internetnorth.com.au (Adam Kuklycz)
>Subject:Pine compiles for SunOS 5.4
>
>Hi,
>
>I have a SunOS SparcStation at the ISP I work for running SunOS 5.4 and
>was wondering how to compile pine on the system.  I have tried the
>numerous SunOS and Solaris options in building pine already and none of
>them have worked.  If there's some options that I need to change can you
>please let me know how it is done so I can compile pine for the system?
>
>My compiler is GCC...
>
>Any and all help is greatly appreciated.
>
>Adam.
>
>

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Dave Mehler
Hello,
	No problem. Perhaps you can help me. I am trying to use Pine 3.96
on my computer, the dos version with a wat packet driver. I load the
driver high, so I have enough conventional memory, then start pine. I am
getting two separate error messages. The first says:
run-time error,
-not enough space for environment.
	The second says:
Bootp failed.
	Can you offer any suggestions?
Dave.

On Wed, 23 Jul 1997 12:19:18 +1000 adam@internetnorth.com.au (Adam
Kuklycz) writes:
>Ewps wrong address first time :P  Sorry for the inconvenience!!
>
>Adam.
>
>>Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 12:16:20 +1000
>>To:pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu
>>From:adam@internetnorth.com.au (Adam Kuklycz)
>>Subject:Pine compiles for SunOS 5.4
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I have a SunOS SparcStation at the ISP I work for running SunOS 5.4 
>and
>>was wondering how to compile pine on the system.  I have tried the
>>numerous SunOS and Solaris options in building pine already and none 
>of
>>them have worked.  If there's some options that I need to change can 
>you
>>please let me know how it is done so I can compile pine for the 
>system?
>>
>>My compiler is GCC...
>>
>>Any and all help is greatly appreciated.
>>
>>Adam.
>>
>>
>
>=====================================================================
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>Dave Mehler
>Hello,
>        No problem. Perhaps you can help me. I am trying to use Pine 3.96
>on my computer, the dos version with a wat packet driver. I load the
>driver high, so I have enough conventional memory, then start pine. I am
>getting two separate error messages. The first says:
>run-time error,
>-not enough space for environment.
>        The second says:
>Bootp failed.
>        Can you offer any suggestions?

Ok.  Not being familiar with the DOS version of Pine (I am assuming it is
very similar in operation etc as the Unix ports of Pine) I may not be able
to offer a great deal of assistance.  However I can suggest trying the
following:

(i) Running Memmaker or Qemm to improve your memory capabilities.  I've
found that in a lot of cases DOS machines with under 590kb's of
conventional RAM free (after loading things like mouse drivers etc) will
sometimes cause problems with certain applications.
(ii) If you're running a version of DOS under 6.0...try upgrading to
version 6.0 or higher?  I've seen bugs with the older versions of DOS in
some of the new applications released...

As for your second error message I would say that is caused by the first
error message, since it cannot start up due to a lack of memory somehow or
for some reason.

Just some other information I could use to try and do what I can in helping
you...how much RAM has your computer got total, and what speed is it, and
how much hard drive space free has the machine got?

Sorry I cannot be much more help to you.  If there's anything else I can do
please let me know.  However I would like some information on how to get
Pine compiled on the SparcStation here at work...:)

Adam.


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We are evaluating the possibility of internet tools adding in an owner
dos-like platform.

Searching for POP3/SMTP client sw i found your sites.

In order to evaluate your tool insertion in this dos-like platform, is it
possible to have PC-PINE sources ?

Have you developped on dos TCP/IP-SLIP/PPP protocol ?

And what about an 1.0 HTML browser ?

And what about secutity tools ?

Best Regard.


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On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, mr.David Mehler Mehler wrote:

> Hello,
> 	I have a question. I am using pine v3.96 on my computer. I am
> getting the following:
> Run-time error 6009
> -Not enough space for Environment
> 
> 	Can anyone tell me what this means? Thank you.

Sure. It means that you've run out of usable memory for the environment
(that place where DOS stores the variables you get to see with "set").

Make sure your CONFIG.SYS has something along the lines of

   SHELL=COMMAND.COM /E:512 /P

You can enlarge the size of the environment by increasing the number
following "/E:".

Regards,

- Richard Gering.

P.S.  When asking for help, always mention the platform you are
      using in your message. The error message is a typical DOS one,
      but not everyone knows this (and its not printed by Pine itself).

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Is it possible to attach a receipt to a sent message on the pine system.
I can not seem to figure this out on my own.
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How do I convert RMAIL folders into a pine-readable format?
I've looked at your "pine discussion formum", the question has been asked
in at least two places, but no one have given a good reply.

thanks,
Tom duchamp

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Hi Everyone:

I have two questions:

1) Is there anyway to add more fonts to the Windows
95 PCPine Package?

2) Also, I'm not sure if I would have to contact
tech support for my ISP to use this feature 
of pine mail.  Is this something I could configure
or execute myself?

In these cases, setting a custom print command may be 
appropriate, perhaps using the "ansiprt"
Unix command included in the Pine distribution 
and the commonly available "enscript" postscript 
encoder command. 

thx

Kathleen


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Gentlemen,

I have developed a word processor that uses W..TXT as an 80 character text
string variable and would like to convert files made with the program to the
ASCII format. I understand that your BINHEX program does this.

My E-MAIL address us HMS707@AOL.COM. Please send any information you have
that might help.

HOWARD M. STANLEY
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How I can get any copy of PINE for SUN Solaris for Sun Sparc 10
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I try to compile pine 3.96 on AT&T unix (MP-RAS) Rel. 3.00
The size fo pine program (binary) more than 4MB
Is that normal or not ?
I see, that another executable program (pico, etc), look normal.

Thank's for help...

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>I try to compile pine 3.96 on AT&T unix (MP-RAS) Rel. 3.00
>The size fo pine program (binary) more than 4MB
>Is that normal or not ?
>I see, that another executable program (pico, etc), look normal.

predator:/usr/bin# ls p* -l
-rws--x--x   1 root     bin          7192 Oct 16  1995 passwd*
-rwxr-x---   1 root     bin          7897 Aug  7  1995 paste*
-rwxr-x---   1 root     bin         37392 Oct 17  1995 patch*
-rwxr-x---   1 root     bin          6153 Aug 15  1995 pathchk*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root            9 Sep  6  1996 perl -> perl5.001*
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     bin        410192 Oct 13  1995 perl5.001*
-rwxr-x---   1 root     bin          4125 Oct 13  1995 perldoc*
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root       436363 Mar  7 14:17 pico*
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root       431169 Jan 31 20:23 pilot*
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root      3128996 Mar  7 14:17 pine*

Pine is 3Mb for Linux...I dare say 4Mb would be normal for your OS.
However I am not part of the Pine Software Development Team and may be
wrong :)

Adam.



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Hallo Adam,

Try the Unix-Cmd 'strip', which strips symbol table, debugging and line
number information from an object file.

Cheers, Rudolf

On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, Adam Kuklycz wrote:

-> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 15:47:27 +1000
-> From: Adam Kuklycz <internetnorth.com.au!adam@ife-le.de>
-> To: Pine Discussion Forum <u.washington.edu!pine-info@ife-le.de>
-> Subject: Re: Pine on NCR MP-RAS
-> 
-> >I try to compile pine 3.96 on AT&T unix (MP-RAS) Rel. 3.00
-> >The size fo pine program (binary) more than 4MB
-> >Is that normal or not ?
-> >I see, that another executable program (pico, etc), look normal.
-> 
-> predator:/usr/bin# ls p* -l
-> -rws--x--x   1 root     bin          7192 Oct 16  1995 passwd*
-> -rwxr-x---   1 root     bin          7897 Aug  7  1995 paste*
-> -rwxr-x---   1 root     bin         37392 Oct 17  1995 patch*
-> -rwxr-x---   1 root     bin          6153 Aug 15  1995 pathchk*
-> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root            9 Sep  6  1996 perl -> perl5.001*
-> -rwxr-xr-x   1 root     bin        410192 Oct 13  1995 perl5.001*
-> -rwxr-x---   1 root     bin          4125 Oct 13  1995 perldoc*
-> -rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root       436363 Mar  7 14:17 pico*
-> -rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root       431169 Jan 31 20:23 pilot*
-> -rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root      3128996 Mar  7 14:17 pine*
-> 
-> Pine is 3Mb for Linux...I dare say 4Mb would be normal for your OS.
-> However I am not part of the Pine Software Development Team and may be
-> wrong :)
-> 
-> Adam.
-> 
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Hi -

Pine is not a "talk" program.  You must quit out of Pine and then use your
"talk" program.  (The "allow-talk" option in Pine merely allows talk
requests to come through to your screen, corrupting Pine's display in the
process.)

On most UNIX systems this is started by giving a "talk"  command followed
by the return address of the person calling you.  For example.

	talk ozw1@somemachine.somesite.somedomain

See the manual page for your "talk" program for information on how to use
it (this forum is not a suitable place to sort out using talk).  The
return address is almost always displayed as part of the connection
request you see when someone tries to contact you; make a note of it
(it'll say something like "Respond with xxx@yyy.zzz").

Cheers,

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On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, Sidney Sirany wrote:

> 
> 	To whom it may concern
> 
> 	I just have a question about how do i talk to someone in pine?
> I'm not saying write them an e-mail ok...  For example a friend of mine
> was talking to me she said she knew i was in Pine, she said she kept
> calling me but I really don't know how to respond...  Would someone please
> help me an explain to me more about Pine...  I thank you very very much in
> advance....
> 
> 	sincerely,
> 
> ********************* Sidney *nukid* Sirany *********************
> 
> 


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I'd like to invoke pine in a script file to mail reports as attachments
to users without using menu interface.   Played around with the
keystroke qualifier with limited success.   Is this feasible?

pam tauer
tauer_pw@vdot.state.va.us	 

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From: /Lim Eong Chin <b56099@ktdi.upm.edu.my>
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	Hi! I received a mail on pine a week ago and I got to compile a
few questions. 

	About this Email, I was quite surprise to find out that the letter
I wrote to my friend can't be justified at the both side. Meaning, the
left and the right column is in the same margin throughout the document.
Is it that I don't know how to do it or is it that this program can't do
it? 

	Second, I feel like this program only allows me to send a 'dead'
letter. I can't find any way to make my letter/mail more lifely. That is,
I can't "underline, bold or italic" some of the letters I want to. Some of
the words cannot be missed, you know. 

	As a whole, can you guys make this program something like 
Microsoft Words or at least like Wordstar?

	Lastly, you don't mind letting me know how Email really works
right? I really need to how you people deal with this program. I got to
register for free here. Not just that, I can also sent a mail for free. 
Do you people get anything for creating and managing this 'thing'. 
Someone got to pay right? Like telephone bills.

	Well, this is about all that I want to say/write. Is there any
word or sentence a wrote that hurt you guys? If there is please forgive me
as I don't know the better way of giving away my thoughts. 

	Please reply. I really need to know the answers as soon as
possible. 

	Bye. Thanks a lot for your time.

Yours Sincerely
eongchin


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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 11:07:27 -0800 (GMT)
From: /Lim Eong Chin <b56099@sktdi>
To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu
Subject: Re: Pine info you requested (last changed Sep 12 1995) (fwd)


	Hi! I received a mail on pine a week ago and I got to compile a
few questions. 

	About this Email, I was quite surprise to find out that the letter
I wrote to my friend can't be justified at the both side. Meaning, the
left and the right column is in the same margin throughout the document.
Is it that I don't know how to do it or is it that this program can't do
it? 

	Second, I feel like this program only allows me to send a 'dead'
letter. I can't find any way to make my letter/mail more lifely. That is,
I can't "underline, bold or italic" some of the letters I want to. Some of
the words cannot be missed, you know. 

	As a whole, can you guys make this program something like 
Microsoft Words or at least like Wordstar?

	Lastly, you don't mind letting me know how Email really works
right? I really need to how you people deal with this program. I got to
register for free here. Not just that, I can also sent a mail for free. 
Do you people get anything for creating and managing this 'thing'. 
Someone got to pay right? Like telephone bills.

	Well, this is about all that I want to say/write. Is there any
word or sentence a wrote that hurt you guys? If there is please forgive me
as I don't know the better way of giving away my thoughts. 

	Please reply. I really need to know the answers as soon as
possible. 

	Bye. Thanks a lot for your time.

Yours Sincerely
eongchin



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From: awesome-dave1@juno.com (mr.David Mehler Mehler)
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Hello,
	I need help! I am trying to use pine, having finally got
everything my computer needs. I'm getting the following message:
[Can't send message without an open remote folder.]
	I would like to know what this means. Does it mean my internet
provider has to have an open folder, my inbox, or saved message place,
one of those, or do I have to have folders created on my computer. If I
have to have folders on my computer, please tell me cleasrlyand
detailedly how to do it. If it is a problem with my ISP what might it be?
Anyone who also uses pine, if you would include your pinerc file as a
plain text file in the body of your message, after your information, NOT
as an attachment, that would be greatly appreciated. Usernames and
passwords, please omit.
Please help!!!!
Dave.

Dave Mehler

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Subject: Re: Pine info you requested (last changed Sep 12 1995) (fwd)
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On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, /Lim Eong Chin wrote:

> 	Hi! I received a mail on pine a week ago and I got to compile a
> few questions. 

Well, pine is a "User Agent".  It is not an email system onto itself.

> 	About this Email, I was quite surprise to find out that the letter
> I wrote to my friend can't be justified at the both side. Meaning, the
> left and the right column is in the same margin throughout the document.
> Is it that I don't know how to do it or is it that this program can't do
> it? 

pine's  builtin editor is not designed to perform this function.  Part of
the reason for this is that it is a "simple" text editor which does not
take into account the fonts which you may be using nor does it carry
or include that type of information since that is the only way you can
ensure the receiver will see the same thing you type.

> 	Second, I feel like this program only allows me to send a 'dead'
> letter. I can't find any way to make my letter/mail more lifely. That is,
> I can't "underline, bold or italic" some of the letters I want to. Some of
> the words cannot be missed, you know. 

This is sort of related to your first question.  To create a more lively
email you must compose it in a format that you know the receiving side
can render properly.  You could use control characters to cause the
colors to change or blink...but that doesn't work for every receiver and
indeed it can turn the screen to junk in some cases.  You could compose
your email in MS-Word or a similar word processor and send the file as
an attachment...but you must know that the receiver can handle it.  The
same is true if you compose in HTML.

> 	As a whole, can you guys make this program something like 
> Microsoft Words or at least like Wordstar?

Generally *not* a good ideas for the reasons cited above and the fact
that not everyone uses pine.
 
> 	Lastly, you don't mind letting me know how Email really works
> right? I really need to how you people deal with this program. I got to
> register for free here. Not just that, I can also sent a mail for free. 
> Do you people get anything for creating and managing this 'thing'. 
> Someone got to pay right? Like telephone bills.

If you want to know how email works you should take a trip to your local
bookstore.  The pine development team works for the University of
Washington and we are all fortunate that the U allows everyone to use
pine at no cost.

> 	Well, this is about all that I want to say/write. Is there any
> word or sentence a wrote that hurt you guys? If there is please forgive me
> as I don't know the better way of giving away my thoughts. 

This is a public mailing list or newsgroup.  Thousands of people all over
the world read this.  So, your audience is much broader than you expected.
 
Regards,

Ed

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From: awesome-dave1@juno.com (mr.David Mehler Mehler)
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Subject: awesome-dave1@juno.com (mr.David Mehler Mehler): *URGENT* help needed.
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Dave Mehler
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From: awesome-dave1@juno.com (mr.David Mehler Mehler)
To: "Pine Discussion Forum" <pine-info@u.washington.edu>
Subject: *URGENT* help needed.
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 23:44:30 EDT
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Hello,
	I need help! I am trying to use pine, having finally got
everything my computer needs. I'm getting the following message:
[Can't send message without an open remote folder.]
	I would like to know what this means. Does it mean my internet
provider has to have an open folder, my inbox, or saved message place,
one of those, or do I have to have folders created on my computer. If I
have to have folders on my computer, please tell me cleasrlyand
detailedly how to do it. If it is a problem with my ISP what might it be?
Anyone who also uses pine, if you would include your pinerc file as a
plain text file in the body of your message, after your information, NOT
as an attachment, that would be greatly appreciated. Usernames and
passwords, please omit.
Please help!!!!
Dave.

Dave Mehler
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--On Thu, Jul 24, 1997 11:44 pm +0000 "mr.David Mehler Mehler"
<awesome-dave1@juno.com> wrote: 

> Hello,
> 	I need help! I am trying to use pine, having finally got
> everything my computer needs. I'm getting the following message:
> [Can't send message without an open remote folder.]
> 
> 	I would like to know what this means.

The message means that you are trying to send a message to someone without
first having "logged into" your mail server (to opwn a mail folder)....

When people send you e-mail the messages get stored in "folders"
(collections of messages) on the mail server computer managed by your ISP. 
To read your messages you run Pine and have it connect to the mail server
and open up your INBOX folder.  However in order to do this you will need
to type in the username and password you have been assigned on the mail
server.  This authenticates you to the mail server software (actually the
"IMAP server" software running there) and proves you're actually allowed to
access the messages stored in the folder.

When you send a message Pine includes some basic information about the
username you used to authenticate to the mail server.  (Don't worry: it
doesn't include your password!)  This provides a basic level of prrof that
the message really did originate from yourself, and not someone else trying
to froge a message to make it appear as though you wrote it.

Obviously in order to do this Pine needs the authentication information to
have been supplied: that is, you to have opened a connection to/folder on
your mail server.  If you haven't got such a connection open then the
authentication information isn't available to Pine, and it refuses to post
your message, displaying the above error message instead.

So before you can send any messages you must open your INBOX folder.  I'm
half-surprised Pine didn't ask you for your username and password when you
started it running so that it could do so.  If it did and you just
cancelled the prompt then you can't do much beyond change settings in the
Configuration screens until you do supply a username and password.

Try running Pine again and be sure to supply the username and password it
prompts you for.  (If it doesn't ask for one try giving the "L" command and
then highlight and select the "INBOX" folder from the list shown to you.)

Cheers,
-- 
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I was wondering if anyone knows how to cut and paste snippets of several
received messages into a reply.  I belong to several other mailing lists,
and local ettiquite calls for replying to several messages at once in
order to conserve bandwith.  I've tried postponing my message, going to
one of my received mails and using ^K to copy text into the buffer.
However, when I resume my composition, the buffer seems to have been
erased.  Any suggestions?

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Hello,

My name is Andrea Morcillo, student of Rider University. My question is:
Do folders in the address book take up a lot of space? I would like to
know why I there's often a probelm with space if I remember that last
semester I used to save up to 70 and more messages and never gave me a
problem and now that I only have saved 10, it's giving me a hard time and
barely space. I don't know what to do.

Thanks for your attention


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Hello,
	Can someone dexcribe in detail how to create folders in pine? I
need to have folders to send mail or to make mail. Do they have to be on
my remote server, my ISP, or do they reside on my own computer? Please
E-mail.
Dave.

Dave Mehler

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Could someone point me to where I could get some info on the command

sz    
 
Are there any switches that modify this?  I constantly get CRC errors
(zmodem) using Lynx on the web that I never get with BBS's.
I dialup (pc and DOS) to pine on a Unix server which uses Lynx on an NT
server (I think) to browse the web.   
If the info about my setup is not clear and you think you could help, 
let me know and I'll tell you more about my system.
Thanks much
Bob Sylvester
 


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	BROWSING THROUGH ALL THE COMMANDS, I SAW THAT YOU HAVE A MAILING
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Hello,
	I have posted a similar request for folders and how to create
them. I want to clarify it. I am using pc-pine on my computer to connect
to my ISP, whose E-mail service runs a POP server. I was told that 3.96
is the first version of pine that will support POP, which is fortunate,
because it's what I've got. I bellieve I have entered all the
configuration data correctly, domain, username,etc. My only drawback is
folders. Do I have to create them on my own computer or are they created
for me on the remote server, my ISP? If I do have to create them on my pc
what is the format. I have tried c:\pine\foldername, although that is
definitely not correct and the program told me this with a folder format
is invalid message. It also said it couldn't open my inbox, folder
doesn't exist, even though I gave it the location in the setup
configuration, [pop.example.net/pop3]INBOX. Do I have to create this
identical folder on my machine, or can I name my inbox what I want?
Please E-mail. Thank you very much for your time.
Dave.

Dave Mehler

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How to move files and folders from one collection to another collection?

Regards  John de Boer



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Dist List "listname":; ?

I have three lists with 20, 60 and 80 names also one with 8 names,
respectively called A, B, C, and C1.   The C1 list is of the names of the
committee of a
Club, C
.

I can post to the lists using Rich header and typing the relevant list
name in the BCC field, ie list A, B, or C or C1.

BUT

If, in the To: field:

1. I type nothing, then Pine will not send the message

2. I type   ;:   then Pine sends the message to all on the list 

3. I type   "somename";:   then Pine sends the message only to the first
name on 
the list

I would like to be able:

a. to type "somename" in the To field, so that recipients will see that
name in t
heir "To: field.  Of course Pine to send the message to all names on the
list

b. I would like the "somename" list names to be selectable from somewhere
so that
 I don't have to type it in everytime I want to send a message to the list
of nam
es.  of course I would like to have a "somename" for everyone of the three
(or mo
re) lists.

Further, though this is not as urgent, I believe it is possible to "nest"
a list 
inside a ("master") list where nicknames in the nested list point to
addresses in
 the "master list.  This could be extremely useful for me.  

Example (for illustration purposes)


"Master" list  "C"    (MTB CLub members list)

nicka  Fulll name    EMAIL ADDRESS
nickb  Full name    EMAIL ADDRESS
nickb  Full name    EMAIL ADDRESS
nick...  Full name    EMAIL ADDRESS
nickz   Full name    EMAIL ADDRESS

(I don't especially need nicks in this list,  because I always post to the
list a
s a whole)



"Nested" list  "C1"    (MTB CLub management committee list)

Pres      Nickc       	(The president is the person nickc in the master
list
Secy      nicka 	(The secretary is the person nickc in the master
list)
Etc.


Sometimes I will send a message ONLY to the committee

How should I set up the nested list?


Regards    John de Boer
           




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A __ How can I 
1. transfer the whole of a WORD document into a Pine Composition without
using cu
t and paste?  

2. transfer such that lines wrap around to the next line
(item 1 above is an actual example of what happens to text copied into
pine from a word document)

B ____ How can I transfer the whole of an email into to a WORD document?

Regards 


John de Boer
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I am curious to know about how many sites/users there are using Pine
compared to
 Elm?  And how these numbers compare to say Eudora and do you need a
program like
 Pine or Elm with a program like Eudora?

Regards   John de Boer
          




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John,


You are using pine 3.93.  This is rather old.  Get pine 3.96 and learn
about Lcc:  It should meet your needs.

Ed

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On Sat, 26 Jul 1997, John de Boer wrote:

> A __ How can I 1. transfer the whole of a WORD document into a Pine
> Composition without using cu t and paste? 

By "WORD" do you mena MS-Word?  How about attaching it?

> 2. transfer such that lines wrap around to the next line (item 1 above
> is an actual example of what happens to text copied into pine from a
> word document) 

If you cut and past and get ugly line...try ^J(ustify).

> B ____ How can I transfer the whole of an email into to a WORD document?
> 
Save the email to a file and "import" it to MS-Word.

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On Sat, 26 Jul 1997, John de Boer wrote:

> I am curious to know about how many sites/users there are using Pine
> compared to Elm?  And how these numbers compare to say Eudora and do you
> need a program like  Pine or Elm with a program like Eudora?

Impossible to know.

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Hello,
	This message should go to experienced pine user's and technically
inclined individuals. First, I have posted some requests for information
about folders and how to make them on a pc, meaning where and what is
there format? Secondly, can folders be stored on the pc, or must they be
on the remote host? Finally, what are environment variables, such as
home, etc? Please be specific, long explanations are welcome. Where are
they set? Please E-mail. Thank you.
Dave.

Dave Mehler

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PC-Pine 3.96 does not support POP.

You'll need to wait for 4.00 for that (and even then it will be use POP
for "quasi-online" mode, not "offline" access.)  Or find an ISP that
supports IMAP...

-teg

On Sat, 26 Jul 1997, mr.David Mehler Mehler wrote:

> Hello,
> 	I have posted a similar request for folders and how to create
> them. I want to clarify it. I am using pc-pine on my computer to connect
> to my ISP, whose E-mail service runs a POP server. I was told that 3.96
> is the first version of pine that will support POP, which is fortunate,
> because it's what I've got. I bellieve I have entered all the
> configuration data correctly, domain, username,etc. My only drawback is
> folders. Do I have to create them on my own computer or are they created
> for me on the remote server, my ISP? If I do have to create them on my pc
> what is the format. I have tried c:\pine\foldername, although that is
> definitely not correct and the program told me this with a folder format
> is invalid message. It also said it couldn't open my inbox, folder
> doesn't exist, even though I gave it the location in the setup
> configuration, [pop.example.net/pop3]INBOX. Do I have to create this
> identical folder on my machine, or can I name my inbox what I want?
> Please E-mail. Thank you very much for your time.
> Dave.
> 
> Dave Mehler
> 


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> I am curious to know about how many sites/users there are using Pine

Over the past several years, our document autoresponder has heard from
well over six million Pine users... Can't say how many of them still use
it, but we can say from local experience that only half of our population
asked for the add'l documentation from the autoresponder... So the number
of users might be on the order of ten million, but it is impossible to
know with precision. 

I can't recall the corresponding site count, but it's many thousands.

> compared to Elm?

I have no idea how many people use Elm.

> And how these numbers compare to say Eudora 

I believe Qualcomm commissioned a study recently that concluded there are
also ten million Eudora users (my memory could be off a couple mill
either way.)

> and do you need a program like Pine or Elm with a program like Eudora? 

Standards vary.  Eudora doesn't yet support IMAP, which makes it unusable
for many of us.  Of course, PC-Pine would be the version to compare most
directly to Eudora, since comparing a native GUI mailer to a
character-based Unix timesharing mailer introduces quite a few apples and
oranges... 

-teg


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This message is being sent to this mailing list weekly in order to
aid readers in finding information about Pine.  Before sending questions 
to the mailing list -- which is mirrored in the newsgroup comp.mail.pine --
please consult these resources:

The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive
help.  Additional information, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, 
Questions & Answers, where to obtain the Pine software, what tools are 
available to perform tasks that Pine itself does not, and more, can be 
accessed:

     - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL:
       http://www.washington.edu/pine/

     - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the
       subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the
       documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form.

     - The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can
       also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection
       (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to
       folder-collections and choose Add Value) as:
            *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[]
    

The messages from this mailing list/newsgroup are archived.  These archives
can be accessed:

     - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL:
       http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/
       (includes a searchable index of all archived messages, and information
        on how to subscribe to this mailing list)

     - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the
       subdirectory /pine/pine-info/.

     - From within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN
       MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and 
       choose Add Value) as:
            *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[]

If you have a question about Pine, chances are it has been asked before
and you can find the answer either through the searchable index of past
messages, or among the "Questions & Answers" at the URL: 

http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/ 
  or
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt

If you need personal assistance with using or configuring Pine, contact
the technical support staff or computer help desk of your Internet Service
Provider, school, university, employer, ... -- whichever organization
provided you with the email account on which you are using, or planning on
using, Pine.  Because system functions and configuration can vary from
site to site, they are best qualified to assist you.  (Due to the large
number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington
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organizations.)

Sun Jul 27 03:00:07 PDT 1997

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>> "EMG" == Edward M Greshko <Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com> writes:

EMG> On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, /Lim Eong Chin wrote:
>> Hi! I received a mail on pine a week ago and I got to compile a few
>> questions.

EMG> Well, pine is a "User Agent".  It is not an email system onto
EMG> itself.

[justifying mail]

EMG> pine's builtin editor is not designed to perform this function.
EMG> Part of the reason for this is that
[snipped strange stuff ;->]

... mail is ascii and therefore monospaced. Duh. [:]

[KeWLifYinG mail]
[snipped totally misleading stuff >;->]

>From the netiquette:

-    Capitalize words only to highlight an important point or to distinguish
     a title or heading. *Asterisks* surrounding a word also can be used to
     make a stronger point. Capitalizing whole words that are not titles is
     generally termed as SHOUTING! [1]
                                       
-    Limit line length and avoid control characters.

>> As a whole, can you guys make this program something like Microsoft
>> Words or at least like Wordstar?

Free Software: Contribute nothing, expect nothing

EMG> Generally *not* a good ideas for the reasons cited above and the
EMG> fact that not everyone uses pine.

Hey, Ed, could it be the weather is becoming too mild where you're at
right now? The correct answer would have included stuff like fubir lbhe 
urnq hc n qrnq cvt or something.

[snip]

What a totally depressing mail... 

Later,
Robin

Footnotes: 
[1]  You can use /this/ to italicise and _this_ to underline. Certain
MUAs can digest this and display the according font. Yes, Gnus can do
it. Hehehe...

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>> "TP" == Tauer, Pam <tauer_pw@vdot.state.va.us> writes:

TP> I'd like to invoke pine in a script file to mail reports as
TP> attachments to users without using menu interface.  Played
TP> around with the keystroke qualifier with limited success.  Is
TP> this feasible?

No. Besides, writing a shell script that uses pine is pretty
lame. Try saying:

	uuencode <filename> <filename> | mail [1] foo@bar.com

for binaries or simply 
	
	cat <filename> | mail foo@bar.com

for ascii files.

Say:

	man mail

for further information on stuff like bcc:, cc: and others. If you
really *need* to use a "regular" mailprogram, try 
	
	mutt -a filename

Later,
Robin

Footnotes: 
[1]  check what flavour of mail you're using, but it should work like
this. 

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>> Robert Sylvester writes:

RS> Could someone point me to where I could get some info on the
RS> command sz

[snip]

Telnet your provider. Say:

	man sz | mail roberts@nicon.org

Happy reading.

Robin

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>> On Fri, 25 Jul 1997 09:43:36 -0400 (EDT), Mistress of IDL
>> <patchow@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> said: 

MoI> I was wondering if anyone knows how to cut and paste snippets of
MoI> several received messages into a reply.  
[snipped soapbox]

Export, Append. Edit. Insert. Mail.

Robin

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>> Regarding e-mail; morcillo@genius.rider.edu adds: 

m> My question is: Do folders in the address book take up a lot of
m> space? 
[snip]

Say:

	du ~/ | sort -n

See which dirs take up the most space. rm stuff in these
dirs. The addressbook itself doesn't take up any significant
space. Read the netiquette for further instructions of how to handle
an account properly.

Robin

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Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn
On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better"  
                                  ... so I got myself Linux. 

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>> "JdB" == John de Boer <jdeboer@metz.une.edu.au> writes:

JdB> A __ How can I
JdB> 1. transfer the whole of a JBEQ document into a Pine Composition
JdB>    without using cu t and paste?

UsE ThE PoWEr of WinDOs, DuDE! You're using the world's most advanced
OS, the most intuitive GUI, and *the* one powerful word processor. Of
course, Word can do emails, too. You need servicepack 7.9, patchlevel
2, codename "Challenger".

Otherwise, save the thing as plain ascii and import it into pine.

JdB> 2. transfer such that lines wrap around to the next line
JdB> (item 1 above is an actual example of what happens to text copied
JdB> into pine from a jbeq document)

Do the words sed and tr mean anything to you? If not, just forget
it. You could try the yanky-yanky thing (that's ^J) but it's kinda
painful.

Ever considered attaching the document?

JdB> B ____ How can I transfer the whole of an email into to a JBEQ
JdB> document?

Depends on what you call "whole". If you mean including all headers,
you need to go into show headers mode before saving. Then you can
import the file into word. 

BTW, your signature is too long.

Robin

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On 27 Jul 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote:

> Hey, Ed, could it be the weather is becoming too mild where you're at
> right now? The correct answer would have included stuff like fubir lbhe 
> urnq hc n qrnq cvt or something.

I'm currently in the USA on a business trip.  Minneapolis to be specific.
Although some folks call it Minnehopeless.  :-)

It is quite hot and humid here these days.  However, I'm breathing clean
air, enjoying wide open spaces, driving a car, and inviting myself to a
Bar-B-Que or two.  So, that somewhat explains my "charitable" nature these
days.  :-) :-)

Regards,

Ed

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Can somebody help me get the arrow keys working on the console of my HP
machine?  I am running HP-UX 10.10 and I have a 700/96 console.  I've read
through the pine-info archives and seen much discussion about the arrow
keys.

I have tried recompiling with the -DTERMCAP_WINS flag, but this did not
work.  I saw a script for reassinging the arrow keys for a Wyse console;
can something like this be done for my HP console?

The symptoms of the problem are this:  No matter what I try, the arrow
keys move on the screen, but not in the file.  In fact, if I use the down
arrow enough it scrolls around to the top of the screen rather than
scrolling the file down.  Since the arrow keys work in VI, I am guessing
that for some reason PINE isn't telling the console that it want's to
operate in some kind of cursor mode instead of the default terminal mode.
I've try doing the above things as well as playing with the termcaps and
terminfo.  All to no avail.  Any help with this would be greatly
appreciated!   


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How can I see all the headers of a message without openen the mail-file in
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--On Sun, Jul 27, 1997 11:07 pm +0200 "Mike Rakhabit"
<fatmike@bewoner.dma.be> wrote: 

> How can I see all the headers of a message without openen the mail-file
in
> an editor ?

Yes... view the message and then give the "H" (full headers) command.

If Pine complains that this is not available you will need to go to the
Setup Configuration screen and enable the "enable-full-headers" option.

Cheers,

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Dear MIME-aware tools representative,

I have recently received an e-mail message that has an encryped section
that I need to read with MIME-aware tools.  How do I get a copy of this
software?

Sincerely,
Audra Bullock  

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How do I read a friends e-mail if I don't have thier password?



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necesito informacion de gertrude stein en espanol

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>> On Thu, 5 Jun 1997 13:58:31 -0700, lafuente@prtc.net (lafuente)
>> said: 

l> necesito informacion de gertrude stein en espanol

Ok, so here we have: 

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KeWL stuff, DuDE. Too bad you're way behind the rest of the world... 

X-Sent: 7 weeks, 3 days, 23 hours, 15 minutes, 5 seconds ago

Check http://www.metacrawler.com for "Gertrude Stein" and "Spanish
sucks". While you're there, grab a copy of the netiquette...

Geez, what a dork...

Cheers,
Robin

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>> On Mon, 28 Jul 97 15:52:46 -0700,
>> Gayle Ryland
>> who can be reached at: ryland.1@osu.edu
>> (whose comments are cited below with "GR> "),
>> had this to say in article <199707281953.PAA07288@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu>
>> concerning the subject of (no subject)

GR> How do I read a friends e-mail if I don't have thier password?

Beat'em over the head with a baseball bat. BTW, you should really turn 
on the spellchecker in your totally outdated version of Netrape - you
misspelled "snoop".

Robin

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On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, Gayle Ryland wrote:

> How do I read a friends e-mail if I don't have thier password?

You are joking, right?  Or do you also steam open other people's
surface mail?  Chances are you also seek to steal answers to the
exams at osu.edu.  Hummmm....maybe we will help you out by sending 
this message to the postmaster at osu.  Sounds like a little
disiplinary action is in order.  

What do you think Robin???

Ed

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On Tue, 29 Jul 1997, Edward M Greshko wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, Gayle Ryland wrote:
> 
> > How do I read a friends e-mail if I don't have thier password?
<snip>
> exams at osu.edu.  Hummmm....maybe we will help you out by sending 
> this message to the postmaster at osu. 

Done already, Ed.

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>> "EMG" == Edward M Greshko <Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com> writes:

EMG> On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, Gayle Ryland wrote:
>> How do I read a friends e-mail if I don't have thier password?

EMG> Hummmm....maybe we will help you out by sending this message to
EMG> the postmaster at osu.  Sounds like a little disiplinary action
EMG> is in order.

EMG> What do you think Robin??? 

Nothing much...

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Hi,

the following e-mail (full message included below)
was sent to me - apparently from your host. Please stop this
practice, as it is implies an abuse of the Internet mail system!

TIA,
R. Socha
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Hey, Pine devvies, are you there? This is a slightly modified version
of XEmacs' Gnus' junk.el. With so many morons out there, it'd be
pretty cool to have this in pine: hit $ and you're there, including
full set of headers (not the entire message as in this case) and
all. This rocks. Can we have it, prettyplease?

Later,
Robin

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Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn
On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better"  
                                  ... so I got myself Linux. 

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I was curious if any out there knew how to convert Pegasus mail folders 
to the Pine mail folder format.  I would appreciate it if some one could
let me know how this could be done.

Thanks,
sam fintz



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i need info

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How do you move a file from one folder to another and
how do you move a folder from one collection of folders to another?

Simple examples:

saved an email E into file A in collection of folders A

But want to move th email into file B, and

want to move file A into collection of folders B.

Some urgency. will appreciate advise or where exactly in help to look

THANKS    John de Boer        Laugh often
                                          


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On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, Stephen Anderson wrote:

> Can somebody help me get the arrow keys working on the console of my HP
> machine?  I am running HP-UX 10.10 and I have a 700/96 console.  I've read
> through the pine-info archives and seen much discussion about the arrow
> keys.
> 
> I have tried recompiling with the -DTERMCAP_WINS flag, but this did not
> work.  I saw a script for reassinging the arrow keys for a Wyse console;
> can something like this be done for my HP console?
> 
> The symptoms of the problem are this:  No matter what I try, the arrow
> keys move on the screen, but not in the file.  In fact, if I use the down
> arrow enough it scrolls around to the top of the screen rather than
> scrolling the file down.  Since the arrow keys work in VI, I am guessing
> that for some reason PINE isn't telling the console that it want's to
> operate in some kind of cursor mode instead of the default terminal mode.
> I've try doing the above things as well as playing with the termcaps and
> terminfo.  All to no avail.  Any help with this would be greatly
> appreciated!   

Hi Stephen,

Maybe the difference in behavior between VI and Pine can be explained by
the fact that both use a different set of terminal definitions. VI would
almost certainly use terminfo but, judging from the .hpp makefiles, Pine
uses termcap. 

Although the problem ought to be fixable in termcap as well, it might be
worth to convert your Pine to use terminfo, as the terminal definitions in
here are usually the most up to date. You can try this with just Pico. 

I don't have an HP-UX system here, so I can't check it for you, but look
in /usr/lib and /lib to find the name of the terminfo library available on
your system (libterminfo.a?, libtinfo.a?, libtermlib.a?) 

Next, make the following changes to pico/makefile.hpp:

- Replace "-ltermcap" at LIBS= with "-lXXX" (XXX matching libXXX.a for the
  library just picked)

- Replace tcap.c with tinfo.c at CFILES= and tcap.o wit tinfo.o at OFILES=

Be sure to keep the previously added -DTERMCAP_WINS option in your CFLAGS. 

Now try a "build clean" followed by "build hpp pico".

If this results in a version of Pico that does allow you to move your
cursor around properly, your terminfo database is indeed better than 
your termcap. If so, Pine itself needs to be modified as follows:

- Make the terminfo library change at STDLIBES= in pine/makefile.hpp

- Uncomment USE_TERMINFO in pine/osdep/os-hpp.h

After a "build hpp", you should be in business :-)

If all this doesn't help, your console might indeed require a special
setup string that isn't defined at "ti=" (termcap) / "smcup=" (terminfo). 
Shouldn't happen, but terminal databases are known to be notoriously bad. 
Let us know if this is the case, we might be able to cook something up. 

Best regards,

- Richard Gering.

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> > Can somebody help me get the arrow keys working on the console of my HP
> > machine?  I am running HP-UX 10.10 and I have a 700/96 console.  I've read
> > through the pine-info archives and seen much discussion about the arrow

> Maybe the difference in behavior between VI and Pine can be explained by
> the fact that both use a different set of terminal definitions. VI would
> almost certainly use terminfo but, judging from the .hpp makefiles, Pine
> uses termcap. 

> Next, make the following changes to pico/makefile.hpp:

> If all this doesn't help, your console might indeed require a special
> setup string that isn't defined at "ti=" (termcap) / "smcup=" (terminfo). 
> Shouldn't happen, but terminal databases are known to be notoriously bad. 
> Let us know if this is the case, we might be able to cook something up. 


Thanks for your help Richard.  I tried tweaking the makefile as you
suggested to get it to use terminfo.  Unfortunately, that did not fix the
problem.  The cursor still did not bind to the point of text insertion.  I
took a look at my termcap and my particular console was indeed not
included.  The terminfo library did include a file for my console though,
and I am slightly bewildered why this last attempt didn't cure the
problem.

If we could try "cooking" an initialization string up as you say, I would
sure appreciate it.  Thanks again for your time and help!


Stephen Anderson
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THISE IS A QUISTION FOR ANAY PERSON TO RESPOND TO.
I AM A NUWE PERSON DEALING WITH PINE THE FIRST TIME.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF SOMEONE SENDS YOU A PICTURE THROU
PINE (E-MAIL) IF YOU CAN LOOK AT IT THROU PINE (E-MAIL),
AND HOW (INSTRUCTIONS).

PS.NICO




































   



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HI THEIR.
I AM A NUWE USER OF PINE AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW,
IF SOMEONE SEND'S ME A PICTURE THROU E-MAIL IF I
CAN LOOK AT IT THROU PINE,AND HOW (INSTRUCTIONS)
PLEASE.

PS.NICO
  





































   



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I want that my message which come to my inbox be forwarded to new address
and then deleted from my inbox. Is it possible.

Thanks 

________________________________________________________________
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Master's student(Computer Science)               a97340@cs.ait.ac.th  
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hello all
please tell me if there is any way that i could know the message i sent
is read along with the the time and date.
Thanks

Ayaz

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>> In article <Pine.HPP.3.95.970730161326.28594A-100000@k200>, Nico
>> Hough <nicoh@k200.rtt.co.za> writes: 

NH> HI THEIR.  I AM A NUWE USER OF PINE AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, IF
NH> SOMEONE SEND'S ME A PICTURE THROU E-MAIL IF I CAN LOOK AT IT THROU
NH> PINE,AND HOW (INSTRUCTIONS) PLEASE.

1) man pine
2) read it
3) grab a copy of the pine-faq
4) read it

This will tell you which values to set in pine's setup. Check the
mailcap settings in particular:

5) man mailcap
6) read it
7) see if you get your sysadmin to set up mailcap to a value that
   allows, say, launching XV - like this:

# The following line is for sites where xv understands jpeg but
# xloadimage is preferred.  the test line specifies that this viewer
# should only be used if the display variable is set.
image/jpeg; xv %s;  test=test -n "$DISPLAY"
# The following sends all other image subtypes to xli
image/*; xloadimage %s; ;  test=test -n "$DISPLAY"
# The following sends all other image subtypes to wmli
image/*; wmli %s; ;  test=test -n "$DISPLAY"

You could copy this into a file called /.mailcap, provided the
programs are available on your system. Try saying

	which xv
	which xli
	which xloadimage

9) STOP SHOUTING. All caps is reserved for yelling at Joe Random
   AOL-user. 

Later,
Robin

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>> "JdB" == John de Boer <jdeboer@metz.une.edu.au> writes:

JdB> How do you move a file from one folder to another and how do you
JdB> move a folder from one collection of folders to another?
[...]
JdB> Some urgency. will appreciate advise or where exactly in help to
JdB> look

Check "aggregate commands" in the help. It'll do what you want.

Later,
Robin

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Remember the 'how can I read someone's mail if I don't have their
password' question from the other day?

Just got this response to my post to osu's postmaster:


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:21:33 -0400
From: Steve Romig <romig@net.ohio-state.edu>
To: Marianne.Aldridge@ualberta.ca
Subject: Re: user education

Thanks for the info.  We will send a note to that user explaining
proper use of Usenet and the nature of computer crime law in the state
of Ohio.

--- Steve Romig, OSU Network Security



Thought you guys'd be interested.

Lea


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From: John de Boer <jdeboer@metz.une.edu.au>
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Hope I'm not imposing with this one. 

in cshrc.ch  I've had the following instruction:

set watch=(1 username any username any)
set who="%S%n%s has %a %S%l%s from %S%M%s: AT %t: ON %w %D"

(where username is a current user on the network). Suddenly it doesn't sem
to work anymore.

with this command, when the specified username logs onto the system a
message appears on my screen, eg username has logged on.

Regards       John de Boer


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As postmaster and occasionally as a user, I receive mail where some of the
headers are:

From: Mail Administrator <Postmaster@mail.sailahead.com>
Reply-To: Mail Administrator <Postmaster@mail.sailahead.com>
Subject: Mail System Error - Returned Mail
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 01:50:38 -0700
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_=
              8967895(229)"
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This looks totally illegal and pine does not display anything beyond this.
However, there is a message here and it would be useful if I could force
pine to read it. Any suggestions?

Attempts to use various pagers (and even /bin/cat) fail since pine appears
to format the data rather then sending the raw information to the pager.

Thanks

--
Alan Thew                                       alan.thew@liverpool.ac.uk
Computing Services,University of Liverpool      Fax: +44 151 794-4442


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Hi,

I'm using Pine on Unix (solaris).

How to make Pine (when iconized) to pop up and showing the incoming mail ?

Thanks,

Yossi


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From: Joe Montesano <jmontesa@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
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I have a problem, that I think you can help me with!

When I make entries into the address book, I often do not use "nicknames".
When I compose a message and use Control T to get an address, it will not
take those addresses without nicknames!  I get by this by going first to
the Address Book, select the person I want, (without a nickname), then
tell it to compose.  This will put the name into the To line.  This
works, BUT,  often I want to end to same note to several people, a sine I a=
m not a fan of
nickname, I have to to through the entire process every time. I rid enterin=
g the first
name of the person into he nickname but I a allowed only one appearance of =
any nickname.
I=92ve -maled to my Tech Support people at Suffolk Library, and they had no
suggestions, they have never had the instance to have that problem.  The
following is their honest response:

We all, learn something new everyday!  Even if you change the order of the
fields within the address book (Setup - somewhere near the bottom) it
won't take an address from somebody if they don't have a nickname.  So if
that's the case, then why isn't it a required element?
So I guess you have to add nicknames or compose from the Main Menu....who
knows.
Good Luck!  E-mail if you need any other assistance and check the FAQs on
SuffolkWeb on the SuffolkWeb Help and New This Week pages.  You can access
SuffolkWeb from SuffolkNet by using Lynx - http://www.suffolk.lib.ny.us

Awaiting your reply and hopeful solution.



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I have just installed Pine 3.95 for a customer on their SparcStation 5
running Solaris 1.1.3. I used the pre-compiled SunOS version and it
works fine on their sun box but all users are accessing it from WISE 50
terminals. Currently the cursor will not go to the first field of
Compose Message ( i.e. To :.....). 
I have seen the messages relating to the problems with these terminals
back in June 95. I have tried the wpinesetup() script but it does not
work.

Can anyone HELP !
Regards
Michel Gelinas

PS
I cannot re-compile it with special command line flags as they do not
have a compiler. 

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From: Nathalie Ellison <Eilahtan@L2.lonet.ca>
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Subject: PROPOSAL
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1326 Huron Street, Suite 271
London, Ontario, Canada   N5V 2E2
Email: Eilahtan@lonet.ca
July 29, 1997


RE: Email List Proposal

Dear Sir/Madame:

I am about to embark on a international advertising campaign in which I 
will be selling a business opportunity to interested parties. A part of 
this campaign will consist of Emailing many, many people around the world 
to propose this opportunity. What I need in order to carry out a 
competent and complete campaign is to secure the Email addresses of 
people around the world to propose my business opportunity. This is the 
reason I am contacting your organization. 

I have a proposal for you which will help both your organization and mine 
at no cost to either. A part of my business opportunity (that I Email to 
other people) has a “multi-level marketing” component in which these 
people must, likewise, contact others through Email, via an Email mailing 
list organization like yours. My proposal to you consists of the 
following: I will agree to list the “Email address and webpage” of  your 
organization in my business proposal as a GREAT organization from whom to 
purchase Email lists. 

This proposal would clearly help both of our companies, in that you would 
get free advertising to as many Email addresses as you could provide to 
me across the world of Internet, and I would have access to millions of 
current Email addresses to use for my business opportunity. 

Yours appears to be a very competent organization with which to do 
business. Please respond promptly as I am ready to send these Emails out, 
and am therefore, approaching other companies like yours with same 
proposal. Thank you for your time, and I hope to hear from you soon!


Sincerely, 

Chris Ellison




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See the section 

	Can I get a "return-receipt" when sending a message with Pine?
at 
	http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/problems.html
or
	ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt

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  Stefan Kramer                   skramer@cac.washington.edu
  University of Washington        Computing & Communications        
  Mailstop 354841         Seattle, WA 98105-4527         USA
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On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Sumita Pokharel wrote:

# Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:20:27 +0700
# From: Sumita Pokharel <b96393@cs.ait.ac.th>
# To: Pine Discussion Forum <pine-info@u.washington.edu>
# Subject: can i know that the message i sent is read
# 
# hello all
# please tell me if there is any way that i could know the message i sent
# is read along with the the time and date.
# Thanks
# 
# Ayaz
# 



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>> "YI" == Yossi Itzkovich <Yossi.Itzkovich@ecitele.com> writes:

YI> How to make Pine (when iconized) to pop up and showing the
YI> incoming mail ?

Get the xbiff, coolmail, asmail or whatever sources and hack the part
that does the signalling in a way that launches an xterm with
pine. Kinda stupid, but if you *really* want that :-)

Those programs are available on any ftp-server near you.

Later,
Robin

-- 
Robin S. Socha, M.A.
Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn
On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better"  
                                  ... so I got myself Linux. 

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There seems to be a problem canceling a message that is being composed.
Originally I thought it was a problem with my computer however it happens
on other computers I use also.  Pressing ^C does nothing and often causes
the screen to freeze.

Chris Schafer	
cschafer@hawaii.edu
schafers@lava.net

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"You see, I don't believe that libraries should be drab places where
people sit in silence, and that's been the main reason for our policy of
employing wild animals as librarians."	-Monty Python skit

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Hello,
	I am running pc-pine v3.96 on my computer. It is connecting up to
my ISP, which runs pop3, but I was told v3.96 supported that. When I get
to my destination, my user-domain, example.example.net, Pine says no
inbox! Folder to use as inbox: so I type in inbox. I save and exit. The
next time I start Pine, it gives me the same message. I called my ISP,
and asked them. They told me that there inbox is
[pop.example.net/pop3]INBOX. When I tried this, Pine said, can't open
inbox, my inbox name, no such folder. On another occation, I tried to
send a message. Pine said, can't compose message without an open remote
folder. Please E-mail.
Urgent!!!
Dave.

Dave Mehler

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On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, mr.David Mehler Mehler wrote:

> 	I am running pc-pine v3.96 on my computer. It is connecting up to
> my ISP, which runs pop3, but I was told v3.96 supported that. When I get

You must have mis-read his email to you.....

Terry Gray of the infamous "pine-team" wrote you to tell you that 

PC-Pine 3.96 *does not* support POP3


Regards,

Ed



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Can you help me to find a decoder to open attachments from a PC encoded
in base 64 by a Macintosh?
Thanks in advance.

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Is it possible to mail to *all* entries in my address book at once? If so,
how? I have some distribution lists but they are not comprehensive. 

I don't subscribe to this list, so please respond to me direct, with a cc
to the list. Many thanks!


Bill Spencer

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From: John de Boer <jdeboer@metz.une.edu.au>
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On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, Christine L Schafer wrote:
> There seems to be a problem canceling a message that is being composed.
> on other computers I use also.  Pressing ^C does nothing and often causes
> the screen to freeze.

Try ctrl ctrl C ,that is, hit ctrol key, and again, then c

Regards  John de Boer    -  Laugh often.

