From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 02:28:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21936; Fri, 1 Sep 95 02:28:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10201; Fri, 1 Sep 95 02:16:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10195; Fri, 1 Sep 95 02:16:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soS9L-00038CC; Fri, 1 Sep 95 02:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Where is the latest Pine FAQ? Date: 23 Aug 1995 18:05:23 GMT Message-Id: <41fql3$64o@news1.wolfe.net> References: <9508222346.AA15963@shiva1.cac.washington.edu> Status: O X-Status: pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu (The Pine Development Team) writes: >It may also be accessed in Pine as a folder-collection by adding > > *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] > >to your "folder-collections" list in the Setup/Config screen (Pine 3.90 >and higher) or in your .pinerc file (Pine 3.85 and higher). This is very cool - thanks for telling us about this! It would be great if the Pine FAQ were also regularly crossposted to comp.mail.pine,comp.answers,news.answers so that it would get archived on all the FAQ archive servers like rtfm.mit.edu, etc. FYI, I have lots of info about FAQ archives at: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/internet/faqs.html Thanks, Nancy -- Nancy McGough Primary Web: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ Infinite Ink Mirror Web: http://www.best.com/~ii/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 05:02:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25963; Fri, 1 Sep 95 05:02:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12505; Fri, 1 Sep 95 04:56:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12499; Fri, 1 Sep 95 04:56:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soUi2-00038CC; Fri, 1 Sep 95 04:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ronald Wahl Subject: Re: Base64 decoder ??? Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 12:31:05 +0200 Message-Id: References: <4205rh$efg@watt.electriciti.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4205rh$efg@watt.electriciti.com> Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 29 Aug 1995, Fred A Watkins wrote: > krok@nostromo.fact.rhein-ruhr.de (Matthias Krok) wrote: > > >Hi ! > > >Can anyone mail me the ftp-path to a unix-source for a decoder that decodes > >the base64-format ? doesn't need to be a complete program, just a code, that > >I can compiler under Linux. A DOS executable would also be good. > > I'd like to know the answer to this also. Please post. Look for uudeview with archie. Rel 0.4.11 is the current (I think). Ronald. +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Ronald Wahl rwa@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de | | >> PGP key available by finger << http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~row | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | PGP fingerprint: 9D 4A 66 7C A9 9F 6A 5F 90 45 D5 0C DF E5 CB 71 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 07:23:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28551; Fri, 1 Sep 95 07:23:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14071; Fri, 1 Sep 95 07:16:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14065; Fri, 1 Sep 95 07:16:53 -0700 Received: from zodiac.unl.ac.uk by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26884; Fri, 1 Sep 95 07:16:37 -0700 Received: by zodiac.unl.ac.uk (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA22828; Fri, 1 Sep 1995 15:18:17 +0100 Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 15:18:16 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford Wesley Fulford 91705162 To: Mark Crispin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: message shrank In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Mark Does this mean the problem lies with the IMAP server (in whole or in part)? I'm happy to recompile Pine (in the prescence of the 3.6 toolkit) but the IMAP server is from PMDF running on a VAX (VMS) over which I have no control. On Thu, 31 Aug 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > Yes, this is a known bug that will be fixed in Pine 3.92. If you > substitute the imap-3.5 toolkit with the imap-3.6.BETA toolkit and rebuild > Pine and imapd you'll get the fix; otherwise just wait until Pine 3.92 > comes out. > > > > [Message to save shrank! (#msgno: n_bytes --> n1_bytes)] > > > > > > And nothing is saved. > > > > > > Fingles law applies. It doesn't happen every time, only when its really > > > important. > > > Any ideas/fixes? > > > > > > When we see it (rarely), the message has control-M characters in it. > > Now that I noticed this, I've verified it every time, maybe 5 times. > > The messages originate on PCs and get inserted with both control-J and > > control-M at end of line, non-unix-style. > > > > Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems > > Columbia University in the City of New York > > brennan@columbia.edu > > > -- Mark -- > Clifford W Fulford UNIX Development University of North London From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 08:16:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00277; Fri, 1 Sep 95 08:16:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15058; Fri, 1 Sep 95 08:12:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15052; Fri, 1 Sep 95 08:12:31 -0700 Received: from localhost by Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.27.MRC ) id AA04947; Fri, 1 Sep 95 08:12:14 -0700 Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 08:10:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: message shrank To: Clifford Wesley Fulford 91705162 Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 1 Sep 1995 15:18:16 +0100 (BST), Clifford Wesley Fulford 91705162 wrote: > Does this mean the problem lies with the IMAP server (in whole or in > part)? I'm happy to recompile Pine (in the prescence of the 3.6 toolkit) > but the IMAP server is from PMDF running on a VAX (VMS) over which I > have no control. The PMDF server may have the same bug. I don't know. The error message from Pine comes out when strlen() of the header in CRLF form plus strlen() of the text in CRLF form is not equal to the reported RFC 822 message size. This is not a very good check for other reasons (it breaks on NULs in the message). When Pine uses the imap-4 toolkit it won't depend upon strlen(). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 08:43:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01427; Fri, 1 Sep 95 08:43:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15519; Fri, 1 Sep 95 08:37:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15513; Fri, 1 Sep 95 08:37:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soY6E-00038CC; Fri, 1 Sep 95 08:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: HELP: Vacation EMAIL?? Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 10:44:00 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <425t08$pg8@lizzy.mcs.csuhayward.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 31 Aug 1995, DARSHANA wrote: > I would like to know how to set up pine to send out > vacation email automatically when you receive an email. Pine itself will not do this for you. You have to use some other facility, which will depend on what kind of system you are on. IF you are on a Unix(-like) system, there is a 'vacation' command, or you can be more elaborate and use a program like procmail. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 08:52:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01972; Fri, 1 Sep 95 08:52:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15345; Fri, 1 Sep 95 08:46:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vax8530.cesi.it by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15339; Fri, 1 Sep 95 08:46:47 -0700 Received: by cesi.it (MX V4.1 VAX) id 20; Fri, 01 Sep 1995 17:46:43 +0200 Date: Fri, 01 Sep 1995 17:46:43 +0200 From: Giuseppe Bottasini To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: bottasini@cesi.it Message-Id: <00995C1B.5D32F852.20@cesi.it> Subject: Is it possible to force user-id to be identical to username login ? Status: O X-Status: I am testing PCPINE 3.91 (both Win and DOS versions) with a IMAP Unix server. What it seems strange to me is that a PCPINE user can change his/her "user-id for From address" so that there is no relationship between his/her username (checked by the server when he/she opens the remote INBOX folder) and a completely different user-id written in the From line. So I can login as "bottasini" (my username on the Unix server) and send messages with "rossi" (the name of the big boss) in the "From" line ! Is it possible to force the "From" user-id to be identical to login username ? Thanks Giuseppe Bottasini bottasini@cesi.it From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 09:30:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04401; Fri, 1 Sep 95 09:30:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16932; Fri, 1 Sep 95 09:25:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dmog10.bell.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16926; Fri, 1 Sep 95 09:25:28 -0700 Received: from dmoc61.on.bell.ca by dmog10.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA28122; Fri, 1 Sep 95 12:25:24 -0400 Received: from huhc53.ON.Bell.Ca by dmoc61.on.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA21103; Fri, 1 Sep 95 12:25:20 -0400 Received: from huhc06 by huhc53 with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24866; Fri, 1 Sep 95 12:25:21 -0400 Received: by huhc06 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06434; Fri, 1 Sep 95 12:25:17 -0400 Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 12:25:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Violette" To: PineInfo Subject: Feature Question Message-Id: Organization: Bell Canada Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to have a command executed when all new mail has been seen. For example, when all new mail has been seen, I wan't Pine to execute 'cat /dev/null > .newmail' so that my mail notification is turned off. I use an imap server so when I get new mail, I use procmail to put something in this file. When I start up Pine, I zero this file, so my mail notification works. While in Pine if I get new mail and read it all, I want to zero this file so my mail notification goes out. Or is there a program to monitor the imap server to know when you have read all your mail? Thanks for any help. -- -- | John R. Violette | Software Development | | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | | Operations Support | E-Mail: jviolett@on.bell.ca | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 10:37:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07806; Fri, 1 Sep 95 10:37:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17929; Fri, 1 Sep 95 10:32:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17923; Fri, 1 Sep 95 10:32:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soZvk-00038CC; Fri, 1 Sep 95 10:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Laura Kishore Subject: Re: Is it possible to force user-id to be identical to username login ? Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 17:34:05 +0100 Message-Id: References: <00995C1B.5D32F852.20@cesi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <00995C1B.5D32F852.20@cesi.it> Status: O X-Status: On 1 Sep 1995, Giuseppe Bottasini wrote: (snip) > What it seems strange to me is that a PCPINE user can change his/her "user-id > for From address" so that there is no relationship between his/her username > (checked by the server when he/she opens the remote INBOX folder) and > a completely different user-id written in the From line. > So I can login as "bottasini" (my username on the Unix server) and send > messages with "rossi" (the name of the big boss) in the "From" line ! > Is it possible to force the "From" user-id to be identical to login username ? I hope not!! And the reason I say this, is because when I joined the wonderful world of e-mail a couple of months ago, our admin asked me to complete a form before they would give me a login. The form asked for *all* of my names and innocently I wrote them in. I was not then best pleased when *all* of my names kept appearing on messages! (I did beg and plead with admin. but they were adamant that my login would have to use all my names, even though I have a fairly unusual surname.) Luckily I discovered that you could alter the "From" user-id and now hopefully you will be receiving this message from *plain* [ :-) ] Laura Kishore From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 10:50:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08618; Fri, 1 Sep 95 10:50:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18313; Fri, 1 Sep 95 10:47:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18305; Fri, 1 Sep 95 10:47:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soa9A-00038DC; Fri, 1 Sep 95 10:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: crtcorp@access5.digex.net (Erik D. McWilliams) Subject: Re: Base64 decoder ??? Date: 1 Sep 1995 13:27:57 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4205rh$efg@watt.electriciti.com> Status: O X-Status: Ronald Wahl writes: >On Tue, 29 Aug 1995, Fred A Watkins wrote: >> krok@nostromo.fact.rhein-ruhr.de (Matthias Krok) wrote: >> >> >Hi ! >> >> >Can anyone mail me the ftp-path to a unix-source for a decoder that decodes >> >the base64-format ? doesn't need to be a complete program, just a code, that >> >I can compiler under Linux. A DOS executable would also be good. >> >> I'd like to know the answer to this also. Please post. I use metamail. I don't remember where I got it. Maybe sunsite.unc.edu?? -- The CRT Corporation Computer Based Research and Training crtcorp@access.digex.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 10:52:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08750; Fri, 1 Sep 95 10:52:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18975; Fri, 1 Sep 95 10:47:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18969; Fri, 1 Sep 95 10:47:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soa99-00038CC; Fri, 1 Sep 95 10:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Gold Subject: =20 at the end of lines? Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 13:18:12 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Does anyone know why many of my mail messages and posts using Pine have a "=20" at the end of many of the lines. I use the PICO editor to include files. The "=20"'s only appear after the files that I send are received by the sendee or newsgroup. Thanks for your assistance. - Mark mgold@tiac.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 10:52:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08798; Fri, 1 Sep 95 10:52:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18983; Fri, 1 Sep 95 10:47:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18977; Fri, 1 Sep 95 10:47:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soa9A-00038HC; Fri, 1 Sep 95 10:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Daniel M. DiPasquo" Subject: Interrupted composition error Date: 1 Sep 1995 17:23:27 GMT Message-Id: <427fif$58r0@theory.tc.cornell.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I've got a problem that noone has been able to help me with. At some point, a message I was composing got interrupted. Now, when I hit "C" to compose a new message, I get "Continue interrupted composition..." If I hit "Y" I get an error beep and "Empty folder. No messages really postponed!" I can't figure out how to clear that interrupted message out so that pine doesn't think it's waiting for me to finish it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Dan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 11:06:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09596; Fri, 1 Sep 95 11:06:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18644; Fri, 1 Sep 95 11:02:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18638; Fri, 1 Sep 95 11:02:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soaLv-00038CC; Fri, 1 Sep 95 10:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cdh@worf.MR.Net (Chris D. Halverson) Subject: Re: Automatic replies? Date: 01 Sep 1995 10:56:49 -0500 Message-Id: References: <425vup$4kh@dns.city-net.com> In-Reply-To: solf@dns.city-net.com's message of 1 Sep 1995 03:50:49 GMT Status: O X-Status: >>>>> "Robert" == Robert Solfanelli writes: In article <425vup$4kh@dns.city-net.com> solf@dns.city-net.com (Robert Solfanelli) writes: Robert> Would someone please tell me if there is a way to Robert> configure Pine to automatically reply to all incoming Robert> messages? I will be changing email addresses and would like This isn't a function of Pine. Pine is a Mail User Agent (MUA). That means it's basic funtion in life is to read and send mail. It doesn't do anything like respond, filter, or anything like that to mail. The Mail Delivery Agent (MDA) or an external program is used for that. What you are probably looking for is something like procmail. Robert> to have Pine automatically notify everyone who emails me. Robert> Also, does Pine have a built in forwarding configuration that Robert> I can activate? Please reply directly to me if possible, or Your Unix shell should provide that via the "~/.forward" file. See aliases(4) for more info. Chris -- Chris D. Halverson | Network Engineer Minnesota Regional Network | Voice: (612) 342-2838 511 11th Avenue South, Box 212 | Email: cdh@MR.Net Minneapolis, MN 55415 | WWW: http://www.MR.Net/~cdh/ PGP signed/encrypted mail accepted, finger for PGP public key From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 11:10:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09738; Fri, 1 Sep 95 11:10:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19551; Fri, 1 Sep 95 11:06:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19545; Fri, 1 Sep 95 11:06:39 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02292; Fri, 1 Sep 95 11:05:43 -0700 Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 11:05:40 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Giuseppe Bottasini Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, bottasini@cesi.it Subject: Re: Is it possible to force user-id to be identical to username login ? In-Reply-To: <00995C1B.5D32F852.20@cesi.it> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: If you look closely at the "forged" message (in full-headers mode), you should see an X-sender: header that corresponds to the login that was used to open INBOX on the IMAP server. It's not perfect, but it's about the best we could come up with without breaking some other functionality... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 1 Sep 1995, Giuseppe Bottasini wrote: > Date: Fri, 01 Sep 1995 17:46:43 +0200 > From: Giuseppe Bottasini > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Cc: bottasini@cesi.it > Subject: Is it possible to force user-id to be identical to username login ? > > I am testing PCPINE 3.91 (both Win and DOS versions) with a IMAP Unix server. > What it seems strange to me is that a PCPINE user can change his/her "user-id > for From address" so that there is no relationship between his/her username > (checked by the server when he/she opens the remote INBOX folder) and > a completely different user-id written in the From line. > So I can login as "bottasini" (my username on the Unix server) and send > messages with "rossi" (the name of the big boss) in the "From" line ! > Is it possible to force the "From" user-id to be identical to login username ? > Thanks > > Giuseppe Bottasini > bottasini@cesi.it > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 11:18:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10197; Fri, 1 Sep 95 11:18:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18940; Fri, 1 Sep 95 11:12:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18934; Fri, 1 Sep 95 11:12:38 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02433; Fri, 1 Sep 95 11:12:35 -0700 Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 11:12:32 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Mark Gold Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: =20 at the end of lines? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: The =20 means that there is something in the message that triggered Quoted-Printable encoding. The =20 itself is a space at the end of a line and will not trigger encoding, but there should be some other =xx in the message that did. Possible triggers include any single line over 1000 characters, or one or more 8bit characters somewhere in the message. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 1 Sep 1995, Mark Gold wrote: > Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 13:18:12 -0400 > From: Mark Gold > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: =20 at the end of lines? > > > Does anyone know why many of my mail messages and posts using Pine have > a "=20" at the end of many of the lines. I use the PICO editor to > include files. The "=20"'s only appear after the files that I send are > received by the sendee or newsgroup. > > Thanks for your assistance. > > - Mark > mgold@tiac.net > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 11:18:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10238; Fri, 1 Sep 95 11:18:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19019; Fri, 1 Sep 95 11:15:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19013; Fri, 1 Sep 95 11:15:25 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02499; Fri, 1 Sep 95 11:15:22 -0700 Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 11:15:19 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Daniel M. DiPasquo" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Interrupted composition error In-Reply-To: <427fif$58r0@theory.tc.cornell.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This is a bug in Pine 3.91 (that will be fixed in 3.92). To get rid of the message, delete the ".pine-interrupted-mail" file from your home directory. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 1 Sep 1995, Daniel M. DiPasquo wrote: > Date: 1 Sep 1995 17:23:27 GMT > From: Daniel M. DiPasquo > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Interrupted composition error > > I've got a problem that noone has been able to help me with. > > At some point, a message I was composing got interrupted. Now, when I hit "C" > to compose a new message, I get "Continue interrupted composition..." > > If I hit "Y" I get an error beep and "Empty folder. No messages really > postponed!" I can't figure out how to clear that interrupted message out so > that pine doesn't think it's waiting for me to finish it. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Dan > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 12:23:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13383; Fri, 1 Sep 95 12:23:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21189; Fri, 1 Sep 95 12:18:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21183; Fri, 1 Sep 95 12:18:23 -0700 Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-5 #2001) id <01HURFBYTAVM90NC4M@INNOSOFT.COM>; Fri, 01 Sep 1995 12:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 1995 12:17:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Portia Shao Subject: Pine address book enhancement request (fwd) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Mickey Belote Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: this is rather a generic request, what do you guys think? +-----POP3's "Leave mail on server" is for the birds ----------------+ | | | /portia portia@innosoft.com | | Innosoft International Inc. (818)919-3600 voice, (818)919-3614 fax| | 1050 East Garvey Ave South, West Covina, CA 91790 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 01 Sep 1995 12:05:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Mickey Belote To: Portia Shao Cc: "Michael R. Belote" Subject: Pine address book enhancement request Hi Portia, Hope things are going well for you. I have a request for an enhancement to the Pine address book. Right now when you create a list in the personal address book, you don't have any method of getting to the global address book for selecting/verifying names, addresses, etc. Would it be possible to add the ^T function as a menu option when creating lists in the personal address book? Thanks for your consideration of this request. Have a nice weekend! Mickey ******************************************************************************** Michael R. Belote Phone: 912.752.2850 Mercer University Fax: 912.752.2313 Director, Technology Support Services Belote_MR@Mercer.EDU From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 13:58:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17153; Fri, 1 Sep 95 13:58:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23349; Fri, 1 Sep 95 13:53:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23343; Fri, 1 Sep 95 13:53:29 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07244; Fri, 1 Sep 95 13:53:26 -0700 Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 13:53:22 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Portia Shao Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Mickey Belote Subject: Re: Pine address book enhancement request (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This will be available in Pine 3.92. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 1 Sep 1995, Portia Shao wrote: > Date: Fri, 01 Sep 1995 12:17:43 -0700 (PDT) > From: Portia Shao > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Cc: Mickey Belote > Subject: Pine address book enhancement request (fwd) > > > this is rather a generic request, what do you guys think? > > > +-----POP3's "Leave mail on server" is for the birds ----------------+ > | | > | /portia portia@innosoft.com | > | Innosoft International Inc. (818)919-3600 voice, (818)919-3614 fax| > | 1050 East Garvey Ave South, West Covina, CA 91790 | > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Fri, 01 Sep 1995 12:05:58 -0400 (EDT) > From: Mickey Belote > To: Portia Shao > Cc: "Michael R. Belote" > Subject: Pine address book enhancement request > > Hi Portia, > > Hope things are going well for you. > > I have a request for an enhancement to the Pine address book. > Right now when you create a list in the personal address book, you don't > have any method of getting to the global address book for > selecting/verifying names, addresses, etc. > > Would it be possible to add the ^T function as a menu option when > creating lists in the personal address book? > > Thanks for your consideration of this request. > > Have a nice weekend! > > Mickey > ******************************************************************************** > Michael R. Belote Phone: 912.752.2850 > Mercer University Fax: 912.752.2313 > Director, Technology Support Services Belote_MR@Mercer.EDU > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 18:31:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27812; Fri, 1 Sep 95 18:31:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26727; Fri, 1 Sep 95 18:28:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26721; Fri, 1 Sep 95 18:28:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sohMF-00038CC; Fri, 1 Sep 95 18:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "KMA Computer Solutions, Inc." Subject: Re: Offline reader for pine In-Reply-To: <425net$aka@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <425net$aka@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 22:53:47 GMT Status: O X-Status: On 1 Sep 1995, Rich Ruggiero wrote: > Does anyone know if an off line mail reader exists for pine? Also, I would like to know if it's possible to have Pine download an entire newsgroup (or more), to be read offline. (Or can this feature be added) -- Keith Moore Senior Software Engineer // ***************** Reply to kmacs@postoffice.ptd.net ***************** // // * KMA Computer Solutions, Inc. Network Consulting - Novell, TCP/IP * // // * Software Consulting - C/C++, COBOL : *IX, OS/2, Windows, DOS * // // ********************************************************************* // From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 18:38:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27938; Fri, 1 Sep 95 18:38:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28967; Fri, 1 Sep 95 18:28:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28961; Fri, 1 Sep 95 18:28:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sohNS-00038DC; Fri, 1 Sep 95 18:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Vaishali Goradia Subject: reading forwarded mime file Date: 23 Aug 1995 17:50:34 GMT Message-Id: <41fppa$jin@spruce.citicorp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I'm new to pine and have a question about MIME files. How do I read a MIMEd file that was attached in the original email but when forwarded to me, sent as text? It's an msword doc that I've tried to save and read in word but it only shows MIME. thanks shali From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 19:50:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29194; Fri, 1 Sep 95 19:50:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27560; Fri, 1 Sep 95 19:48:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27554; Fri, 1 Sep 95 19:48:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soiZo-00038CC; Fri, 1 Sep 95 19:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bryanm@chch.planet.org.nz (Bryan McNally) Subject: Amiga Pine Date: Sat, 02 Sep 95 11:28:24 GMT Message-Id: <428c6p$904@sirius.chch.planet.co.nz> Status: O X-Status: Where can I find the Amiga version of Pine?? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 19:55:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29260; Fri, 1 Sep 95 19:55:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00181; Fri, 1 Sep 95 19:53:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00175; Fri, 1 Sep 95 19:53:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soifM-00038DC; Fri, 1 Sep 95 19:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: doom Subject: Re: message shrank Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 21:34:37 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Any way to reconfigure assigned keys in Pine? Both QModemPro for Win, and Telix for Win will not recognize the mark set keystroke of CTRL-6, and that is one I use very frequently... Any way to re assign? Thanks... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 20:50:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00423; Fri, 1 Sep 95 20:50:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28136; Fri, 1 Sep 95 20:48:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28130; Fri, 1 Sep 95 20:48:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sojY1-00038CC; Fri, 1 Sep 95 20:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: evd Subject: [?] Getting to the tail/head of file Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 22:47:22 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is there a simple and direct way to go to the end of mail thats being composed in Pine (3.91) and, once there, back to the top? What about the same for news being viewed with Pine? And Pico? I've checked the manual, FAQ, etc. I must be missing something. There's got to be a better way than paging down/up a screen at a time. Thanks, -- evd@gwis.com . From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 20:51:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00456; Fri, 1 Sep 95 20:51:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00867; Fri, 1 Sep 95 20:48:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00861; Fri, 1 Sep 95 20:48:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sojY1-00038DC; Fri, 1 Sep 95 20:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: issloan@netcom.com (Irene S. Sloan) Subject: Pine 3.91 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 03:09:18 GMT Status: O X-Status: I'd really appreciate it if someone could tell me in some detail where and how I go about downloading Pine 3.91. Thanks very much in advance, Irene Sloan issloan@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 1 21:46:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01352; Fri, 1 Sep 95 21:46:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28694; Fri, 1 Sep 95 21:43:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28688; Fri, 1 Sep 95 21:43:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sokQS-00038CC; Fri, 1 Sep 95 21:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: perumtl@step.polymtl.ca (Jose Aguilar) Subject: binaires files in pine Date: 1 Sep 1995 20:10:38 GMT Message-Id: <427pbu$d4a@charles.cdec.polymtl.ca> Status: O X-Status: Hello; Somebody can tell me how can I send binaires files by pine. Thanks -- __________________________________________ | | | Jose Aguilar | | Ecole Polytechnique | | Dpt.de Mathematique et Genie Industriel | | Programme de Maitrise en Productique | | Montreal-Canada | |__________________________________________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 2 03:22:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07563; Sat, 2 Sep 95 03:22:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05594; Sat, 2 Sep 95 03:19:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05588; Sat, 2 Sep 95 03:19:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sopcB-00038CC; Sat, 2 Sep 95 03:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phill@eskimo.com (Phill Lowe) Subject: Pico binarys for SCO anywhere?? Message-Id: Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 08:12:16 GMT Status: O X-Status: I'd like to run pico on our SCO unix box. We don't have C so I'd have to get GCC up first then compile pico. I am trying to find an easier way. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 2 06:47:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11096; Sat, 2 Sep 95 06:47:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04053; Sat, 2 Sep 95 06:44:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04047; Sat, 2 Sep 95 06:44:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sospE-00038CC; Sat, 2 Sep 95 06:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mbruce@orion.tower.com.au (Matt Bruce) Subject: Re: HELP: Vacation EMAIL?? Date: Fri, 01 Sep 1995 16:02:16 GMT Message-Id: <427ap7$hro@orion.tower.com.au> References: <425t08$pg8@lizzy.mcs.csuhayward.edu> Status: O X-Status: rchauhan@mcs.csuhayward.edu (DARSHANA) wrote: >I would like to know how to set up pine to send out >vacation email automatically when you receive an email. There is a piece of software called "vacation" (funnily enough) that comes with most distributions of Unix. I haven't a clue how to use it, as I've only just heard of it myself. ---------- Matt Bruce -------- mbruce@orion.tower.com.au ---------- Kryten: "It seems, after all this time, that Mr Lister is a robot." Rimmer: "I'll write you into my will if you let me tell him." ------------- http://www.mdstud.chalmers.se/~md4sepid/ ------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 2 06:57:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11207; Sat, 2 Sep 95 06:57:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08064; Sat, 2 Sep 95 06:54:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08058; Sat, 2 Sep 95 06:54:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soszt-00038DC; Sat, 2 Sep 95 06:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rrich@ksu.ksu.edu (Ron Richolson) Subject: Re: How Can I *&^%$@#-list Someone's Mail? Date: 29 Aug 1995 08:26:52 -0500 Message-Id: <41v4is$594@nbc.ksu.ksu.edu> References: <41tg9h$do4@mark.ucdavis.edu> Status: O X-Status: ez055079@betty.ucdavis.edu (Elizabeth Mills) writes: >is it possible to automatically bounce messages from a particular sender? >i don't particularly want to receive mail from certain person and i'd >like to just bounce it back to them w/ some sort of "your mail is being >refused" message. >i can't find anything in the pine program that does this. is there a way >thru pine? or do i have to write a unix script to do the deed... let >me know, please. >email me at: eamills@ucdavis.edu Please post the info. Since school has started my junk e-mail has gone up. I would also like to do the above. Ron Richolson Associate Professor amateur call: KA7FYA KSU-Salina rrich@ksu.ksu.edu 2409 Scanlan Salina, KS 67401 (913)-826-2675 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 2 07:47:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11838; Sat, 2 Sep 95 07:47:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04540; Sat, 2 Sep 95 07:44:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04534; Sat, 2 Sep 95 07:44:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sotnh-00038CC; Sat, 2 Sep 95 07:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: [?] Getting to the tail/head of file Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 10:16:49 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 1 Sep 1995, evd wrote: > Is there a simple and direct way to go to the end of mail thats being > composed in Pine (3.91) and, once there, back to the top? What about the > same for news being viewed with Pine? And Pico? When composing, press ^W^V to go to the bottom of the file. Press ^W^Y to go to the top of the file. (^ refers to the Control key.) The same will work when viewing a file, although you can simply press W rather than ^W when viewing. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 2 13:17:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17624; Sat, 2 Sep 95 13:17:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12742; Sat, 2 Sep 95 13:15:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12736; Sat, 2 Sep 95 13:15:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soyxm-00038HC; Sat, 2 Sep 95 13:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root Subject: Pine and Cnews Date: Sat, 02 Sep 1995 16:44:54 GMT Message-Id: <810060294.16772@pundit.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O X-Status: Can somebody please help me by explaining how to make pine work with Cnews. I have seen people using pine as a news agent. How is it done? -- *** Salim Fadhley - Projects co-ordinator of University Radio Nottingham *** eMail: psykscf@unicorn.nott.ac.uk http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~scf From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 2 13:39:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17944; Sat, 2 Sep 95 13:39:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08002; Sat, 2 Sep 95 13:35:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07992; Sat, 2 Sep 95 13:35:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sozGI-00038HC; Sat, 2 Sep 95 13:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: holmberg@upp.promotor.telia.se (Johan Holmberg) Subject: Strange delay accessing IMAPD from PINE Date: 02 Sep 1995 17:23:21 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I'm using PINE 3.91 on SunOS 4.1.3. Reading mail locally works fine. But when I try to access a remote folder (via IMAP) a strange delay occurs. When I select the remote folder, PINE "hangs" for about a minute, and after that I get the username/password prompt to use on the remote machine. Why this delay ? The IMAPD server I'm accessing is running on a Silicon Graphics running IRIX 5.3. The server is built from the PINE3.91 distribution. I have watched the TCP-traffic (with "tcpdump") on the LAN where the IMAPD server is running. Nothing arrives from the machine I'm running PINE on until after the strange delay of about a minute. I have also stopped PINE while it is "hanging" to see what PINE is doing. The stack frame then looks like this: tcp_getdata(stream = 0x1e3038) tcp_getbuffer(stream = 0x1e3038, size = 1, buffer = 0xefffe216 "ÿ") map_open(stream = 0x19c920) mail_open(stream = 0x19c920, name = 0xefffeb70 "{host.with.impd.server}INBOX", options = 0) context_open(context = 0x185d88 "[]", old = (nil), name = 0xefffeb70 "{host.with.impd.server}INBOX", opt = 0) do_broach_folder(newfolder = 0x18ca00 "MM-INBOX", new_context = 0x185d98) folder_lister(ps = 0x181910, do_what = FolderMaint, start_context = (nil), return_context = (nil), return_string = (nil), context_list = 0x185d98, f_state = (nil)) folder_screen(pine_state = 0x181910) main(argc = 1, argv = 0xeffff9a4) I have also accessed the IMAPD server from a PINE running on the same machine as the server. Then there is NO delay. Can anybody help me explain what is wrong ? Thanks, /johan holmberg -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Johan Holmberg Email: holmberg@upp.promotor.telia.se Telia Promotor Uppsala AB Phone: +46 18 18 94 55 Box 1218 Mobile: +46 70 528 94 55 751 42 Uppsala, SWEDEN Fax: +46 18 18 94 99 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 2 14:30:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18811; Sat, 2 Sep 95 14:30:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13529; Sat, 2 Sep 95 14:27:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from actcom.co.il by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13523; Sat, 2 Sep 95 14:27:44 -0700 Received: from galtronics.UUCP by actcom.co.il with UUCPgaltronics (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id XAA20485; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 23:15:42 +0200 (rfc931-sender: uucp@localhost) Received: by aviion.galtronics.co.il (5.4R2.10/ACTCOM-GALTRONICS-S-1.0) id AA06518; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 23:57:00 GMT Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 23:57:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Aladdin Khamis To: "Irene S. Sloan" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 2 Sep 1995, Irene S. Sloan wrote: >I'd really appreciate it if someone could tell me in some detail where >and how I go about downloading Pine 3.91. > >Thanks very much in advance, > >Irene Sloan >issloan@netcom.com > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine Aladdin Khamis Information Systems Department Galtronics Ltd. P.O.Box 1589 Tiberias 14115 Tel: 972-6-732-111 Ext.299 Fax: 972-6-732-037 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 2 16:07:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20563; Sat, 2 Sep 95 16:07:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14687; Sat, 2 Sep 95 16:05:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14681; Sat, 2 Sep 95 16:05:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sp1af-00038CC; Sat, 2 Sep 95 16:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bottasini@cesi.it (Giuseppe Bottasini) Subject: Wrong identification of mail sender Message-Id: <1995Aug28.114300.856@cesi> Date: 28 Aug 95 11:43:00 +0200 Status: O X-Status: I am testing PCPINE 3.91 (both Win and DOS versions) with a IMAP Unix server. What it seems strange to me is that a PCPINE user can change his/her "user-id for From address" so that there is no relationship between his/her username (checked by the server when he/she opens the remote INBOX folder) and a completely different user-id written in the From line. So I can login as "bottasini" (my username on the Unix server) and send messages with "rossi" (the name of the big boss) in the "From" line ! Is it possible to force the "From" user-id to be identical to login username ? Thanks Giuseppe Bottasini bottasini@cesi.it From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 2 16:17:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20835; Sat, 2 Sep 95 16:17:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09517; Sat, 2 Sep 95 16:15:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09511; Sat, 2 Sep 95 16:15:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sp1kv-00038CC; Sat, 2 Sep 95 16:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bottasini@cesi.it (Giuseppe Bottasini) Subject: "From" userid authentication Message-Id: <1995Sep1.093800.857@cesi> Date: 1 Sep 95 09:38:00 +0200 Status: O X-Status: I am testing PCPINE 3.91 (both Win and DOS versions) with a IMAP Unix server. What it seems strange to me is that a PCPINE user can change his/her "user-id for From address" so that there is no relationship between his/her username (checked by the server when he/she opens the remote INBOX folder) and a completely different user-id written in the From line. So I can login as "bottasini" (my username on the Unix server) and send messages with "rossi" (the name of the big boss) in the "From" line ! Is it possible to force the "From" user-id to be identical to login username ? Thanks Giuseppe Bottasini bottasini@cesi.it From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 2 16:22:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20898; Sat, 2 Sep 95 16:22:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09549; Sat, 2 Sep 95 16:19:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from popb-f.gsfc.nasa.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09543; Sat, 2 Sep 95 16:19:23 -0700 Received: from pplourd.gsfc.nasa.gov (pplourd.gsfc.nasa.gov [198.119.34.41]) by popb.gsfc.nasa.gov (8.6.10/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA17638; Sat, 2 Sep 1995 19:19:08 -0400 Message-Id: <199509022319.TAA17638@popb.gsfc.nasa.gov> X-Sender: pplourd@pop500.gsfc.nasa.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 02 Sep 1995 19:18:04 -0400 To: holmberg@upp.promotor.telia.se (Johan Holmberg), pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Plourd Subject: Re: Strange delay accessing IMAPD from PINE Status: O X-Status: I noticed the same problem a month ago. The suggested answer at that time was to put :143 in the inbox-path command in the pine configuration file. The line looks similar to inbox-path=3D{hostname:143} Hope this helps At 05:23 PM 9/2/95 GMT, Johan Holmberg wrote: > >I'm using PINE 3.91 on SunOS 4.1.3. >Reading mail locally works fine. But when I try to access >a remote folder (via IMAP) a strange delay occurs. > >When I select the remote folder, PINE "hangs" for about a minute, >and after that I get the username/password prompt to use on the >remote machine. Why this delay ? > >The IMAPD server I'm accessing is running on a Silicon Graphics running >IRIX 5.3. The server is built from the PINE3.91 distribution. > >I have watched the TCP-traffic (with "tcpdump") on the LAN where >the IMAPD server is running. Nothing arrives from the machine I'm >running PINE on until after the strange delay of about a minute. > >I have also stopped PINE while it is "hanging" to see what PINE is doing. >The stack frame then looks like this: > > tcp_getdata(stream =3D 0x1e3038) > tcp_getbuffer(stream =3D 0x1e3038, size =3D 1, > buffer =3D 0xefffe216 "=FF") > map_open(stream =3D 0x19c920) > mail_open(stream =3D 0x19c920, > name =3D 0xefffeb70 "{host.with.impd.server}INBOX", > options =3D 0) > context_open(context =3D 0x185d88 "[]", old =3D (nil), > name =3D 0xefffeb70 "{host.with.impd.server}INBOX", > opt =3D 0) > do_broach_folder(newfolder =3D 0x18ca00 "MM-INBOX", > new_context =3D 0x185d98) > folder_lister(ps =3D 0x181910, do_what =3D FolderMaint, > start_context =3D (nil), return_context =3D (nil), > return_string =3D (nil), context_list =3D 0x185d98, > f_state =3D (nil)) > folder_screen(pine_state =3D 0x181910) > main(argc =3D 1, argv =3D 0xeffff9a4) > > >I have also accessed the IMAPD server from a PINE running on the same >machine as the server. Then there is NO delay. > >Can anybody help me explain what is wrong ? > >Thanks, > >/johan holmberg > >-- >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >Johan Holmberg Email: holmberg@upp.promotor.telia.se >Telia Promotor Uppsala AB Phone: +46 18 18 94 55 >Box 1218 Mobile: +46 70 528 94 55 >751 42 Uppsala, SWEDEN Fax: +46 18 18 94 99 >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 2 16:48:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21279; Sat, 2 Sep 95 16:48:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15137; Sat, 2 Sep 95 16:45:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15131; Sat, 2 Sep 95 16:45:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sp2DP-00038CC; Sat, 2 Sep 95 16:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jweber@pluggers.esu8.k12.ne.us (Jim Weber) Subject: Re: Base64 decoder ??? Date: 2 Sep 1995 22:54:14 GMT Message-Id: <42anam$8he@news.nde.state.ne.us> References: Status: O X-Status: Matthias Krok (krok@nostromo.fact.rhein-ruhr.de) wrote: : Hi ! : Can anyone mail me the ftp-path to a unix-source for a decoder that decodes : the base64-format ? doesn't need to be a complete program, just a code, that : I can compiler under Linux. A DOS executable would also be good. In a pinch, I used PGP under DOS to decode it once. I prettied it up to look like a PGP message, and PGP decoded enough to decide it wasn't the right thing, so after it gave me an error message I just undeleted the temporary file. Just something to keep in mind. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 2 16:57:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21402; Sat, 2 Sep 95 16:57:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09838; Sat, 2 Sep 95 16:55:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09832; Sat, 2 Sep 95 16:55:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sp2LX-00038DC; Sat, 2 Sep 95 16:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dpiatkow@uoguelph.ca (Dariusz S Piatkowski) Subject: IMAP protocol using Pine in Linux Date: 2 Sep 1995 22:48:35 GMT Message-Id: <42an03$ld7@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> Status: O X-Status: Hi everyone! A short question here, I am trying to read my mail which is held on a different machine. From my Linux system at home I simply change the mail_box location to point to the other machine (this is in the pine .pinerc configuration file). I am connected to the other network using PPP, it seems Pine correctly goes to that other system, but the next thing I get even before any folders are open is the following error message: IMAP connection broken on reply I searched through the FAQ but couldn't find anything. Am I simply missing some little configuration detail, or is there a problem with the protocol the mail_server machine is using (it is using IMAP2bis BTW). Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks. -Dariusz From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 2 17:43:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22307; Sat, 2 Sep 95 17:43:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15800; Sat, 2 Sep 95 17:40:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15794; Sat, 2 Sep 95 17:40:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sp36x-00038CC; Sat, 2 Sep 95 17:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Jahn Subject: relevant directory Fcc's? Date: 2 Sep 1995 23:36:20 GMT Message-Id: <42appk$h74@lynx.unm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: If I am replying to a message in mail/personal/bob how can I get pine to automatically store the message I sent in that same folder (as opposed to mail/bob)? Same question for storing messages from bob in my INBOX. Thanks much, MAJ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 2 21:49:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25691; Sat, 2 Sep 95 21:49:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12689; Sat, 2 Sep 95 21:46:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12683; Sat, 2 Sep 95 21:46:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sp6wF-00038CC; Sat, 2 Sep 95 21:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@tardis.iupui.edu (Operator) Subject: Don't Read. This is a test. Message-Id: <1995Sep2.215337.17547@indyvax.iupui.edu> Date: 2 Sep 95 21:53:37 -0500 Status: O X-Status: This is a test. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Richard Sanchez email: rsanchez@indyunix.iupui.edu Indiana School of Medicine Indianapolis, Indiana -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 3 01:26:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00114; Sun, 3 Sep 95 01:26:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21389; Sun, 3 Sep 95 01:16:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21383; Sun, 3 Sep 95 01:16:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spAEN-00038DC; Sun, 3 Sep 95 01:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bob@hobbes.dtcc.edu (Bob Rahe) Subject: Re: Can I disable .pine-debug files? Date: 23 Aug 1995 19:32:19 GMT Message-Id: <41fvo3$djp@hopi.dtcc.edu> References: <40dnnv$lh1@mindy.cs.utexas.edu> <40sq82$nc5@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au> Status: O X-Status: In article <40sq82$nc5@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au>, System Adminstrator wrote: >In article <40dnnv$lh1@mindy.cs.utexas.edu>, > ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) writes: >>[ larry@austin.ibm.com wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] >> >>-> I'd like to disable the .pine-debug? file generation. Is there any >>-> way to do that vi pine or the .pinerc? Thanks ... >> >> Start up PINE with "pine -d0". > >Or you can recompile... there's an option for default debug levels >somewhere... in the /pine source directory in on of the two files > Makefile.xxx >OR > os-xxx.c > >where xxx represents your build architecture. Have fun. It's in the Makefile - take out the "-DDEBUG". -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Bob Rahe, Delaware Tech&Comm Coll.| "It is a very great poverty to decide | |Computer Center, Dover, Delaware |that a child must die that you may live| |Internet: bob@hobbes.dtcc.edu |as you wish." Mother Theresa | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 3 07:17:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06239; Sun, 3 Sep 95 07:17:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18122; Sun, 3 Sep 95 07:12:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18116; Sun, 3 Sep 95 07:12:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spFj4-00038HC; Sun, 3 Sep 95 07:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mbruce@orion.tower.com.au (Matt Bruce) Subject: Re: binaires files in pine Date: Sun, 03 Sep 1995 06:14:54 GMT Message-Id: <42bh6k$7r9@orion.tower.com.au> References: <427pbu$d4a@charles.cdec.polymtl.ca> Status: O X-Status: perumtl@step.polymtl.ca (Jose Aguilar) wrote: >Somebody can tell me how can I send binaires files by pine. You use the "Attachments:" line to attach binaries to an email document. It will attach them in MIME-format. Move your cursor to this line, then press ^T to go to the files, then read the instructions on the bottom of the screen. I don't recommend you attach anything past about 1Mb. Even that's prolly too much. ---------- Matt Bruce -------- mbruce@orion.tower.com.au ---------- Kryten: "It seems, after all this time, that Mr Lister is a robot." Rimmer: "I'll write you into my will if you let me tell him." ------------- http://www.mdstud.chalmers.se/~md4sepid/ ------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 3 12:15:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10416; Sun, 3 Sep 95 12:15:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28916; Sun, 3 Sep 95 12:13:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28910; Sun, 3 Sep 95 12:13:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spKT4-00038HC; Sun, 3 Sep 95 12:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: males@wotangate.micro.ti.com (Mike Ales) Subject: folders being loaded read-only Message-Id: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 19:41:38 GMT Status: O X-Status: I just pulled the latest Pine release for Windows from www.washington.edu. I'm off to a real good start, but for some strange reason all of the Mail-folders that I am able to generate indexes for come up read-only. So I cannot delete messages, etc. The mail-folder is local to the PC, I am just trying to get setup for an off-line reader at this point. Any clues would be greatly appreciated. -- Thanks and Regards, Mike Ales males@wotangate.sc.ti.com These opinions are of course just my own. I do not let my employer speak for me and I will not speak for them, unless paid to do so, by my employer. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 3 13:53:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12085; Sun, 3 Sep 95 13:53:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21689; Sun, 3 Sep 95 13:50:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21683; Sun, 3 Sep 95 13:50:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spLwM-00038HC; Sun, 3 Sep 95 13:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jibby Subject: Usenet Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 12:24:58 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Please Help I was wondering if there is a way to get rid of all the messages in a usenet news group. For example, I joined the Phish news group and it has over a 1000 messages. I can't read all those, I want to start with todays messages and go from there...how do I do that? Rather than going through and deleteing every message until I am current. I am using PINE 3.91. Any Help is greatly loved...Thanks in advance. _______________________________________________________jibby@mail.unm.edu_______ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 3 14:00:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12183; Sun, 3 Sep 95 14:00:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00194; Sun, 3 Sep 95 13:58:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00188; Sun, 3 Sep 95 13:58:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spM5e-00038HC; Sun, 3 Sep 95 13:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ldd@step.polymtl.ca (Louis-D. Dubeau) Subject: Re: Pine on Solaris Date: 03 Sep 1995 15:23:33 GMT Message-Id: References: <4257ib$c5a@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In-Reply-To: Mark Crispin's message of Thu, 31 Aug 1995 21:07:14 -0700 Status: O X-Status: >>>>> "MC" == Mark Crispin writes: MC> The official way is with SUN's compiler, and that is what the MC> sol part is designed for. As many people have noticed, the MC> sol port does not build using gcc without substantial MC> modification. About 90% of the sol port are specific details MC> for the native Solaris compiler, only about 10% is for the MC> Solaris operating system. It does not require much modifications. A patch follows. If anobody has trouble with the patch, let me know. The patch also includes a fix for imapd. I don't know about other architectures but on Solaris 2.4 (probably 2.x), inetd seems to give non-blocking sockets to the deamons it starts. Imapd therefore never stops while waiting for a command and sucks up all the CPU power. :-( The solution is to force stdin to be blocking. ldd -- Louis-Dominique Dubeau == ldd@step.polymtl.ca == hallu@info.polymtl.ca -- -- Home page: http://step.polymtl.ca/~ldd/ ---Cut here--- --- pine3.91/pine/makefile.sol 1995/08/22 18:40:59 1.1 +++ pine3.91/pine/makefile.sol 1995/08/29 13:14:01 1.2 @@ -70,12 +70,12 @@ # Use these for the Solaris C compiler CFLAGS= -DSV4 $(OPTIMIZE) $(PROFILE) $(DEBUG) -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" -# LDCC= /usr/bin/cc +LDCC= gcc # If you don't have /usr/bin/cc (our Solaris 2.2 doesn't seem to have it, # it only has /usr/ucb/cc) then change LDCC to the following line and # give that a try. This is still using the Solaris compiler but # leaving out the UCB compatibility includes and libraries. -LDCC= $(PICODIR)/cc5.sol +# LDCC= $(PICODIR)/cc5.sol # Use these for the gcc compiler # CC= gcc --- pine3.91/pine/osdep/os-sv4.h 1995/08/22 18:09:53 1.1 +++ pine3.91/pine/osdep/os-sv4.h 1995/08/29 13:14:44 1.2 @@ -185,9 +185,9 @@ /*----------------- Are we ANSI? ---------------------------------------*/ -/* #define ANSI /* this is an ANSI compiler */ +#define ANSI /* this is an ANSI compiler */ -#define const /* compiler doesn't support const */ +/* #define const /* compiler doesn't support const */ /*------ If our compiler doesn't understand type void ------------------*/ /* #define void char /* no void in compiler */ --- pine3.91/imap/non-ANSI/imapd/imapd.c 1995/08/31 20:57:04 1.1 +++ pine3.91/imap/non-ANSI/imapd/imapd.c 1995/08/31 20:59:38 @@ -154,6 +154,10 @@ struct stat sbuf; void (*f) () = NIL; #include "linkage.c" + /* blocking */ + fcntl(0,F_GETFL,i); + i &= ~O_NONBLOCK; + fcntl(0,F_SETFL,i); openlog ("imapd",LOG_PID,LOG_MAIL); gethostname (cmdbuf,TMPLEN-1);/* get local name */ host = cpystr ((hst = gethostbyname (cmdbuf)) ? hst->h_name : cmdbuf); --- pine3.91/pico/makefile.sol Fri Feb 25 13:37:22 1994 +++ pine3.91/pico/makefile.sol Fri Sep 1 11:02:01 1995 @@ -48,7 +48,7 @@ # it only has /usr/ucb/cc) then change LDCC to the following line and # give that a try. This is still using the Solaris compiler but # leaving out the UCB compatibility includes and libraries. -LDCC= cc5.sol +LDCC= gcc #CFLAGS= -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -ansi #otherwise ---Cut here--- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 3 14:55:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12987; Sun, 3 Sep 95 14:55:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22205; Sun, 3 Sep 95 14:53:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22199; Sun, 3 Sep 95 14:53:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spMy7-00038HC; Sun, 3 Sep 95 14:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yossl@linet02.li.net (Joe Brook) Subject: ***** URGENTLY NEED HELP WITH MIME/PINE *** Date: 3 Sep 1995 20:51:34 GMT Message-Id: <42d4gm$qp7@linet02.li.net> Status: O X-Status: [ Article crossposted from comp.mail.mime ] [ Author was Joe Brook ] [ Posted on 3 Sep 1995 20:36:09 GMT ] My ISP uses PINE 3.91 as a mail agent. I am receiving a great deal of mail that is MIME encoded but neither the ISP nor myself have any idea as to how to couple the two together. Every time I select Y to read in MIME format I receive the message "Metamail not found" Please help if you can or steer me in the right direction. TIA JoeB From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 3 15:58:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13758; Sun, 3 Sep 95 15:58:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01519; Sun, 3 Sep 95 15:53:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01507; Sun, 3 Sep 95 15:53:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spNuR-00038KC; Sun, 3 Sep 95 15:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Pine Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) Date: 3 Sep 1995 21:47:16 GMT Message-Id: <42d7p4$ph3@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/DIGEST; BOUNDARY="----------------------------" Status: O X-Status: Archive-name: mail/pine-faq ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: Where is the latest FAQ? The most up-to-date version of this FAQ can be found at any of these places: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/faq/ ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/faq mailto:pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu Last updated: 940106 Current release: Pine 3.91, Pico 2.5 Pine and Pico are registered trademarks of the University of Washington. Copyright 1995 by the University of Washington. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: What is Pine? Pine(tm) --a Program for Internet News & Email-- is a tool for reading, sending, and managing electronic messages. It was designed specifically with novice computer users in mind, but can be tailored to accommodate the needs of power users as well. Pine uses Internet message protocols (e.g. RFC822, SMTP, MIME, IMAP, and NNTP) and runs on Unix, MS-DOS, and MS Windows. The guiding principles for Pine's user-interface were: careful limitation of features, one-character mnemonic commands, always-present command menus, immediate user feedback, and high tolerance for user mistakes. It is intended that Pine can be learned by exploration rather than reading manuals. It has the ability to perform full screen editing of messages, include and extract attachments (such as Word or Excel files), and other advanced message system features. Pine uses IMAP for accessing message folders on remote computers and MIME for sending multimedia or other binary files as attachments to normal messages. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: What is MIME? MIME (RFC1521) stands for "Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions". It is an Internet standard which allows transfer of binary files (word-processing documents, spreadsheets, images, sounds, etc) between any compliant mailers. You can get technical information about MIME from the RFC. Ongoing discussion on MIME takes place in the newsgroup comp.mail.mime. There is also a Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) list that is posted regularly to comp.mail.mime, comp.answers and news.answers. If you have a Web browser you can access it through: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/bngusenet/comp/mail/mime/top.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: What is IMAP? IMAP stands for "Internet Message Access Protocol". An IMAP client program on any platform at any location on the Internet can access email folders on an IMAP server. While the messages appear to be local, they reside on the server until the client explicitly moves or deletes them. The IMAP protocol is a functional (but incompatible) superset of POP. A principal advantage of IMAP over POP is that it permits using more than one computer to access your mail. Using multiple computers with POP typically results in your mail ending up scattered across all of those computers. Another key advantage is IMAP's ability to selectively access parts of messages, e.g. you don't have to wait for a 2MB audio attachment to be retrieved until you specifically ask for it. This is a big win over low-speed (e.g. dialup) connections. For a detailed comparison of IMAP and POP, see the paper "Comparing Two Approaches to Remote Mailbox Access: IMAP vs. POP." It is available from: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.vs.pop IMAP is what allows Pine (or any other IMAP client) to access email on a remote mail server, usually one that is shared (central or departmental). The current IMAP4 Proposed Standard is described in RFC1730. Additional information is included in RFC1731, RFC1732, and RFC1733. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: How can I get a copy of Pine? Pine is available via anonymous ftp from the pine directory of ftp.cac.washington.edu. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: What documentation is available? The Pine program itself includes extensive online help. Additional documentation may be found via anonymous FTP or via World-Wide-Web at the following locations: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine The following contributed documentation is also available: http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/creations/ca_pine_guide.html http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/creations/PineIntroduction http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/creations/PineIntermediate If you have documentation that you would like to share, please mail pine@cac.washington.edu a pointer to them and we'll include it here. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: What mailing lists and newsgroups are there dealing with Pine? The "comp.mail.pine" newsgroup is devoted to Pine. It is bi-directionally gatewayed to the "pine-info" mailing list described below. The following mailing lists deal with Pine and related topics: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Pine-Info is a mailing list for the email program Pine. The mailing list includes discussion of Pine features, bugs, tricks, etc. Often technical and installation questions appear on the list. New releases, fixes and version of Pine are announced on the pine-info mailing list. For official announcements only, you may wish to see pine-announce instead of this list. To subscribe to pine-info, send a message to majordomo@cac.washington.edu with subscribe pine-info in the body of the message. Owners of this mailing list can be contacted at owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu. Pine-Announce@cac.washington.edu Pine-Announce is a announcement list for the email program Pine. When new Pine products are released and old ones updated, a message goes out to this group describing the development. It is a very low volume list and includes no discussion whatsoever. NOTE: All messages to this list are automatically forwarded to pine-info, so it is not necessary to subscribe to both lists! To subscribe to pine-announce, send a message to majordomo@cac.washington.edu with subscribe pine-announce in the body of the message. Owners of this mailing list can be contacted at owner-pine-announce@cac.washington.edu. IMAP@CAC.Washington.EDU This is the official mailing list for the IETF IMAP working group and other interested parties. Discussion of the evolving IMAP standard and related issues is conducted on this list. To subscribe to IMAP, send a message to imap-request@cac.washington.edu. C-Client@CAC.Washington.EDU This list is for discussion of the C-Client library which is used by Pine and various other mail and IMAP clients and servers. To subscribe to C-Client, send any message to c-client-request@cac.washington.edu. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: How many sites use Pine? Based on the number of people getting copies of Pine and its documentation, we know for sure that Pine is used at over 12,000 sites in 60 different countries. We do not have any way to count the exact number of sites using Pine or the total number of users, but we estimate that well over one million people use Pine right now (12/94). People are still jumping on the Pine bandwagon -- about 4,000 new users each day -- so any guess about the number of people who use Pine today will surely be too small tomorrow. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: Can we use Pine source code in commercial products? Pine and C-client source code is copyright by the University of Washington, however it may be used without fee to the University of Washington, even for commercial purposes, subject to the terms of the copyright notice in the code. If you want to use Pine code in commercial products, you must retain the indication of UW trademark and copyright and we ask that you also "explicitly and conspiciously" indicate that there is no business relationship of any kind between you and the University of Washington. Note that the copyright restrictions may not be the same in all versions of the code, but the general information above pertains to all versions of Pine up to and including the current 3.91 release. A related issue concerns use of the name Pine... "Pine and Pico are registered trademarks of the University of Washington. No commercial use of these trademarks may be made without prior written permission of the University of Washington." If you have any doubts about what you need to do to use Pine commercially, write to the Pine Development Team and ask. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: How do I send a message to lots people without showing all the names? Put addresses and/or list from your address book in the Bcc: (blind carbon copy) header field. You will see all the names and addresses as you compose the message, but they are erased before arriving in other people's INBOXes. The Bcc: header is not displayed automatically in the default Pine configuration, so you may need to use the rich headers command (Ctrl-R) while the cursor is in the header to expose it. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: Mike Ramey , Nancy McGough Content-Description: How do I use Ispell with Pine and Pico? If you use ispell and have an ispell custom dictionary (usually ispell.words or .ispell_words in your home directory, which contains a list of words, one word to a line) then it is nice to also use ispell for spell checking your outgoing mail messages. There are two methods for setting this up. METHOD 1 ======== If you always use Pine's default composer, Pico, then you can use ispell as your "alternate editor." In your .pinerc set enable-alternate-editor and set the editor variable like this: editor=/usr/local/bin/ispell (See step 1 of Method 2 below for instruction for finding the full path to ispell on your machine.) Then, when you are composing a message you can type ^_ to run ispell on your message and display the output in Pine's viewer. In the viewer you can use ispell's usual commands. While in ispell you can type ? for help on ipell's commands. One useful command is ``I'' which inserts the current word in your custom dictionary. METHOD 2 ======== If you use an alternate editor, such as vi or emacs, then you need to fool Pine into thinking that ispell is spell. Here's how to set this up: 1] Determine what directory ispell is in by using one of these commands: which ispell type ispell whereis ispell where ispell 2] In your bin directory, e.g., $HOME/bin, link spell to ispell with: ln -s /usr/local/bin/ispell $HOME/bin/spell Replace ``/usr/local/bin'' with ispell's path (see #1). 3] If you use the csh or tcsh set the SPELL environment variable by putting a line like this in your .cshrc: setenv SPELL "$HOME/bin/spell" If you use the Bourne shell set the SPELL environment variable by putting a line like this in your .profile: SPELL="$HOME/bin/spell" export SPELL 4] In your home directory create a file called ispell.words that contains your private dictionary of words that should pass the spell check. This will probably include your name, email address, etc. 5] Logout and log back in to make sure that your new settings are in place. 6] Test that this is set up correctly by using Pine to compose a message and include words, like your name, that are in your custom dictionary. Spellcheck the message with ^T. If your name passes the spellcheck (and your name isn't in regular dictionaries) then it is set up correctly. With Method 2 you cannot use many of ispell's features, for example, ``I'', which inserts a word in your dictionary doesn't work. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: How can I have a signature automatically appended to my mail messages? Using your favorite text editor (e.g. Pico), create a file in your home directory called .signature containing the text you want appended to each message. PC-Pine users should put their signatures in the file \PINE\PINE.SIG. For more details see Nancy McGough's Signature and Finger FAQ. The hypertext version is at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/signature_finger_faq/faq.html The plain text version is at: ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/signature_finger_faq ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team , Nancy McGough Content-Description: How can I filter messages into different incoming folders? Pine does not do delivery filtering. That function is done by other programs, such as "procmail" or "filter" or "deliver" or "mailagent." Once you have set-up your delivery filtering, e.g. via the "procmail" program, then you will have new mail arriving in several different mailboxes/folders, in addition to your INBOX. So then the question becomes, how do you access those new "incoming message" folders that your favorite delivery filter program has created? One solution is to just access them the same way you access your other mail folders. If they are in your default folder directory (usually $HOME/mail) then just type L to list your folders and select the folder you'd like to view. If they are in a different directory, for example $HOME/mail/IN, add that directory to your folder-collections by putting this into your .pinerc: folder-collections=mail/[], mail/IN/[], And then when you list your folders by typing L the mail/IN directory will be in your list. Another solution is to use Pine's incoming-folders variable. With this method you can use the Tab key to tab through new messages in all your incoming folders. When you are at the last new message in one incoming folder pressing the Tab key will move you to the next incoming folder with a new message. Here is part of a sample .pinerc for setting up incoming folders: incoming-folders=Art151 {warhol.art.nowhere.edu}IN/art151, Art-L {warhol.art.nowhere.edu}IN/Art-L, Old-Student-Acct {fozzie.elsewhere.edu}INBOX In this case, the pinerc entries presume that your delivery filtering program has been configured to put mail relating to the Art151 class into the folder "IN/art151" and mail relating to the Art-L mailing list into "IN/Art-L". >From the Folders List screen, you can then easily access those folders. Eventually we will have a way to indicate which of these may have new mail waiting for you, so that you don't forget that you have more than one place to look for new mail. For a more detailed treatment of filtering, see the Filtering Mail FAQ and the Procmail FAQ. The hypertext version of these are available at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/procmail-faq/faq.html The plain text versions are available at: ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering_mail_faq ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/procmail_faq ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: Nancy McGough Content-Description: How do I define my own headers like Reply-To and Organization? In Pine 3.90, and later versions, you can set Reply-To, Organization, and other headers using the customized-hdrs variable. 1. From the Main Menu type s for Setup 2. Type c for Configuration 3. To change the value of the customized-hdrs variable: a) To use the Where command type: w b) At the prompt type: customized-hdrs c) To Add a value type: a d) At the prompt type: Organization: Your Organization Name e) Repeat steps c and d for other headers such ast Reply-To Note that Pine understands environment variables so you can use lines like the following (if the variables are set): Organization: $ORGANIZATION Reply-To: $REPLYTO While reading a message that you've received you can view all headers by typing h. If h does not work you need to go to your configuration menu and set the enable-full-header-cmd variable. While composing a message you can view all the headers by placing the cursor in the header region and typing ^R (view rich headers). Customized headers are not available in Pine 3.89 and earlier. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: Can I use Pine non-interactively, e.g., in a shell script? This is not currently possible. If it were possible you could use Pine, and your Pine addressbook, to mail people from within a shell script, at the end of a pipeline, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: When I get new mail, xbiff lets me know about it, but pine doesn't know about it. There are currently two ways to force a new mail check. * Press `Ctrl-L' (Refresh Display). * At the last message in a folder, press 'N' 4-5 times. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: How can I read a ROT13 encoded message? When viewing the message, use the '|' (Pipe) command and give it the following: tr '[A-Za-z]' '[N-ZA-Mn-za-m]' You could also write a script, maybe called unrot, that does this and then pipe the message to the script. In order for the pipe command to work you need to be using Pine 3.90 or higher and have the enable-unix-pipe-cmd variable set. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: Can I eliminate the @host.domain from local addresses? This is not a new idea. It's a very old idea, in fact, and just about everyone who has ever dealt with email has had it at one time or another. Regretably, it has come to be recognized as a bad idea. Here's why: An email address without a host name is not syntactically valid according to RFC822. Now, it is true that RFC822 only specifies what must be done in messages which are transmitted over the network, and that strictly local messages are not under RFC822's dictates. This means that there are two formats of email, one that conforms to RFC822 and one that does not. Careful efforts must be made to ensure that the non-conforming mail format never escapes the local system onto the network. Twenty years' of experience has shown that it is impossible to guarantee that the non-conforming format does not escape into the network, even in the face of traps to catch such messages on their way out and convert them to RFC822 conforming format. Indeed, such traps have often contributed additional problems on their own. The non-conforming format is ambiguous as to what host is intended. Although the off-the-cuff solution (and the one that everyone implements) is ``use the local host'', numerous examples have occurred in which this leads to wrong behavior. For example, it may be the ``local mail center'' instead of the ``local machine which is a single-user workstation''. Or, if a one of the non-conforming messages escaped on to the network, it's some remote system and we have no idea at all what system that may be! There's no way for the mail reader to tell; a human may infer from context but often does so by using information that is not available to the program. The Pine team has spent long (and at times heated) meetings reviewing this issue, before coming to the conclusion (as other email groups have independently done) that it's a no-win situation. The policy of the email development community for 15 years (since the RFC733 discussions) has been to exterminate the non-conforming format by not implementing it in modern mail tools. It may be feasible to implement a feature in a future version of Pine that would suppress the display of the local host name in email addresses. That is, the host name would still be in the file on disk, but would not show up on the screen. We'll consider it, but we have a large list of very high priority tasks which must be done first. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: Why doesn't "attached-to-ansi" printing work? So-called "attached-to-ansi" printing relies on the communication software you are using to interpret certain special characater sequences that tell it to divert the incoming stream of characters to your printer, and then back to your screen. Perhaps 99% of "pine printing problems" are either due to PC or Mac communications software that doesn't understand ANSI escape sequences for printing, *or* (in the dialin case) softare flow- control problems. We didn't understand how big a problem software flow control was until 3.90 came out... we changed pine to intercept flow control characters so that users would not see Pine "wedge" mysteriously if a mis-type or noise generated a control-S, but that did bad things when printers, modems, or comm software was depending on s/w flow control. So in 3.91 we added the "preserve-start-stop-characters" feature, so that Pine could be configured to respect s/w flow control characters (if the operating system did) for those folks who needed them. Enabling this feature should make Pine 3.91 behave the same way as earlier versions. Then we discovered that some operating systems don't enable software flow control by default. So in 3.92, the "preserve-start-stop-characters" feature will do more than simply "not ignoring" them, it will try to force the OS to pay attention to them. So here's the sequence of things to try if you have pine printing problems: 1. CHECK FOR SOFTWARE FLOW-CONTROL PROBLEMS: A. Try enabling "preserve-start-stop-characters" <- requires 3.91 B. If that doesn't help, verify that the OS is enabling s/w flow control; if it isn't, you can either change that in a global .login script, or as a worst case, wrap pine in a script that does it. By the way, on our AIX systems, we had to execute "stty -ixon" followed by "stty ixon" --no one here knows why the first stty is needed. (Note that explicitly enabling s/w flow control in the OS will not be needed in 3.92). C. If neither of the above apply, double-check that you actually have *some* kind of flow control enabled on your system, either hardware or software. 2. CHECK YOUR COMM SOFTWARE FOR ANSI PRINTING CAPABILITY A. After ruling out s/w flow control problems, if printing still doesn't work, the odds are that the PC or Mac comm s/w is at fault. I don't know how to determine this other than via trial-and-error and word-of-mouth. B. The "ansiprt" utility included in the pine distribution can also be used for testing. It simply sends the specified text file to user's terminal device, bracketed with the ANSI escape sequences for print diversion. This is just what Pine does as well (although some versions of ansiprt offer a few options not available via Pine.) 3. POSSIBLE OTHER PRINTING PROBLEMS A. Printing via Pine's "attached-to-ansi" facility to a postscript-only printer. Pine does not yet have the ability to encapsulate text into postscript, ala "enscript", so the custom print option using enscript and ansiprt will be needed in that case. B. Other printer-specific configuration problems. For example, whether or not the printer needs a trailing formfeed to eject the last page, or a control-D, or non-Unix newline conventions, etc. Many of these problem will also require using the custom print command option and "ansiprt". ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: What PC comm software works with the "Print to ANSI" print option? The attached-to-ansi option works on most PC communication packages. In particular, Kermit, NCSA Telnet, and WinQVT have been tested. Brent Blumenstein reports "It works in under OS/2 using IBM's TCP/IP for OS/2 telnet capabilities (provided you have updated to the latest corrective service diskettes - readily available). I do this using both a token ring network connection and SLIP from home." Ryan reports "Works great with QmodemPro for DOS." Ben Cacace reports "I'm using ProComm Plus for Windows ver 1.02: I can print E-Mail if it is *not* a large memo (memos of 48K or larger give me a ProComm error message)." Nancy McGough reports "It works with Delrina's WinComm. Other packages will be listed as reports come in. Please send reports to pine@cac.washington.edu. IMPORTANT NOTE ============== If you have a postscript printer and you are printing from a MS Windows Comm program you need to use a non-postscript printer driver. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: What Mac comm software works with the "Print to ANSI" print option? The UW modified versions of Kermit and NCSA Telnet are known to work with the attached-to-ansi print option. Versaterm Pro is also reported to work. Other packages will be listed as reports come in. Please send reports to pine@cac.washington.edu. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: David Miller Content-Description: What Amiga comm software works with the "Print to ANSI" print option? David Miller reports "Term 3.2 starts printing, but misses the sequence to stop printing. Term 4.1 printing is garbled." Other packages will be listed as reports come in. Please send reports to pine@cac.washington.edu. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: How do I read News with Pine? Beginning with version 3.91, it is usually sufficient to set the nntp-server variable, via the Setup/Config menu. This will automatically define a default news-collection. In case the default is not appropriate for your site, the following details may help... Three ways to access news via Pine: 1. Via NNTP. Your .newsrc file must be on the machine where Pine is running. Assuming news is stored on the machine news.nowhere.edu, a typical .pinerc entry would be: news-collections = News *{news.nowhere.edu/nntp}[*] Note that if the nntp-server variable is set, your news-collections will default to NNTP access from that same server. 2. Via IMAP. Your .newsrc file must be on the machine where news is stored. Assuming news is stored on the machine news.nowhere.edu, a typical .pinerc entry would be: news-collections = News *{news.nowhere.edu}[*] 3. Local News. If news is stored on the same machine you run Pine on, you can specify: news-collections = News *[*] The advantage of IMAP newsreading is that the same .newsrc can be used for both Unix Pine and PC-Pine. The disadvantage is that you must have an account on the machine that stores the news and runs the NNTP server. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: Can I post news with Pine? Versions of Pine prior to Pine 3.90 do not support posting. In Pine 3.90 and later you can enter a list of newsgroups on the Newsgrps: header to post a message. If the Newsgrps: header is not displayed when you are composing you can view it by putting your cursor in the header and typing ^R to view rich headers. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: Why does Pine encode text attachments? Pine uses MIME's Base64 encoding for *all* attachments, including text, in order to assure that they are not modified in transit. The goal is make sure that sending file attachments in Pine is as dependable as using FTP. Although it may seem like encoding is unnecessary for files that are plain text, certain email gateway, trasport, and delivery agents pose a threat to the integrity of even text files (much less binary files). For example, long lines may be wrapped, trailing spaces deleted, tabs turned into spaces, lines beginning with "From " modified, etc. Pmay there are actually several potential sources of corruption ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: How can someone without Pine decipher an attachment? Pine uses the MIME Internet standard for attaching files to email messages. Any MIME-capable mailer should be able to understand Pine's attachments. If you use Pine's attachment feature, your recipient needs to have either a MIME-capable mail reader or software that can decode MIME. Fortunately, these are not hard to find. The major proprietary mail vendors have committed to MIME support, but some of their upgraded products are some months away. One freely-available program which can decipher a MIME attachment is munpack from Carnegie Mellon. It is available at: ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu//pub/mpack ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: How can I send a text file without it being encoded? This is easily done by using Pine's "file inclusion" key (Control-R). Instead of entering the file name on the Attchmnt header line, move the cursor to the bottom of your messaage, and press Control-R, then enter the name of the text file. It will be included at the end of your message without any encoding (unless the file contains 8bit or binary characters, in which case the entire message becomes subject to MIME encoding rules.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: Why does Pine use Base64 instead of UUENCODE? Pine uses the Internet MIME (Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions) standard for all attachments. MIME uses "Base64" encoding rather than uuencode, because uuencode uses characters that are transformed by some email gateways, and there are also several incompatible versions of uuencode. However, if needed, you can certainly uuencode a file outside of Pine, then use the Composer's Ctrl-R (file inclusion) command to insert the uuencoded file into the message. ------------------------------ Return-Path: Received: via tmail for dlm; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 17:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15324; Tue, 15 Aug 95 17:06:27 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07287; Tue, 15 Aug 95 17:06:26 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21890; Tue, 15 Aug 95 17:06:25 -0700 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 17:06:22 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller Reply-To: David L Miller To: David L Miller Content-Description: How do I convert a Sun Mailtool attachment to MIME format? Message-Id: Return-Receipt-To: David L Miller Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Keith Moore has written a Perl conversion script to convert Mailtool to MIME. The Perl script and C conversion are available in ftp://cs.utk.edu/pub/MIME/sun-to-mime.perl.Z ftp://cs.utk.edu/pub/MIME/sun-to-mime.c.Z The following is from ftp://cs.utk.edu/pub/MIME/sun-to-mime.README This is a simple filter that takes Sun OpenWindows 3 messages as input, and produces MIME messages as output. It's written in perl, so you need perl installed to run it. As shipped, the perl program may call uudecode to undo the effects of uuencoded files, and uuencode to convert binary files to base64 (!). It calls "zcat" to uncompress files. Finally, it needs a program to convert Sun raster files to some other format (like GIF) that MIME supports. As supplied, it uses the "convert" program (part of ImageMagick) to do this, but some other program or set of programs (like the pbm stuff: "rasttopnm | ppmtogif") will also work. Just change the line that calls "convert" to use whatever you have. If you are using MH 6.8 or later with MIME support, put this in your .mhn-profile file (or wherever $MHN points): mhn-show-x-sun-attachment/: sun-to-mime.perl | mhn -file - -show If you are using metamail, put this in your .mailcap file: x-sun-attachment; sun-to-mime.perl < %s | metamail -T ; needsterminal Enjoy! Keith Moore moore@cs.utk.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: If I postpone a Reply, Pine never marks it as answered. This is a known limitation of the current release of Pine. When you postpone a composition, Pine does not have any way to keep track of which message was being replied to (or that it was a reply at all). This limitation will be removed in a future release. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: "Folder Format Invalidated (consult an expert), aborted" The message "Folder Format Invalidated (consult an expert), aborted" means that Pine was reading your mail folder, and at the point in which it expected a start-of-message header line, it found something else. The ``format invalidated'' condition can happen in one of three ways: 1. bad data exists at the beginning of the folder. 2. data was appended to the folder after Pine initially read it, and the new data did not begin with a start-of-message-header. 3. the folder was modified without Pine being aware of it. All three problems are generally caused by software external to Pine. Condition (1) can be determined by whether or not the problem repeats itself after restarting Pine. If restarting Pine does not make the problem go away, then you need to look at the actual file for the folder and see what is wrong with the very first line. In particular, make sure that there are no blank lines at the beginning of the file and that the first character of the folder file is a capital ``F'' , the second an ``r'', the third an ``o'', etc. In the case of an INBOX, you may want to rename the folder so that new mail can be delivered while repairs on the corrupt folder are being done. Condition (2) may be caused by a mail delivery process (e.g. /bin/mail) which writes some characters other than ``From '' at the beginning of the new data. Condition (3) is caused by another program manipulating the mail folder without following the normal folder locking protocols. This is a general problem on UNIX. Conditions (2) and (3) have also been known to occur when accessing folders via NFS, if the information returned by the stat() and read() system calls do not correspond with each other as a result of NFS attribute caching. Restarting Pine on that folder always clears conditions (2) and (3). If the problem is chronic, it may be worth an investigation to determine its cause. Usually, it is due to the misbehavior of some external software. The reason why Pine gives up with conditions (2) and (3) is that it does not want to risk damaging user data by guessing what is right. Pine never writes to the folder unless it is absolutely sure it knows what it is doing. There are some steps which can be taken to reduce the risk of these conditions coming up. Some of these steps may require the assistance of your system adminstrator (or whomever it was that built and installed Pine on your system): 1. Use IMAP instead of NFS to access remote folders. Problems with locking over NFS are perhaps the single most important cause of user difficulties. Using IMAP eliminates this class of problem. 2. Consider enabling the mbox driver in Pine. If the mbox driver is enabled, mail is transferred from the /usr/spool/mail mail into a file called mbox in your home directory, if mbox exists. The home directory mbox file is then your INBOX. This has the advantage that Pine and the mail delivery system are less often in contention for the INBOX, and never both trying to update it. Pine only empties the /usr/spool/mail file, it never tries updating it. 3. Be careful not to run other programs that modify your folders while you are running Pine. Such programs may change the folder out from under Pine, and lead Pine to conclude that there is a problem with its view of the file. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: What is folder locking and how does it work? Locks are used by Pine and other mail programs to prevent damage from occurring to the mail file when multiple programs try to write to the file at the same time. Because there are many different schemes of mail file locking used on UNIX, Pine implements all of them. The result is a lot of complexity. There are several reasons why locking needs to be done: 1. If you want to read the mail file, you want to make sure that no other process will modify the mail file while you are reading it. 2. If you want to write to the mail file, you want to make sure that no other process is accessing the mail file while you are writing it. 3. If you have the mail file open, you want to make sure that no other process can alter any of the internal contents of the mail file that you have read, but it is OK if another process appends new data to the mail file. 4. If you want to alter any of the internal contents of the mail file, you want to make sure that no other process has the mail file open. There are several mechanisms of locking: * The creation of a file which has the same name as the mail file, but with a suffix of ".lock" (for example, this lock for /usr/spool/mail/isma is named /usr/spool/mail/isma.lock). This file accomplishes locks (1) and (2) above. This is an exclusive lock. * The use of an flock() with LOCK_SH on the mail file. This accomplishes lock (1), and prevents lock (2). Multiple processes can do this. * The use of an flock() with LOCK_EX on the mail file. This accomplishes lock (2), and prevents lock (1). This is an exclusive lock. * The use of an flock() with LOCK_EX on a file on /tmp. The file name used depends upon the version of Pine. This accomplishes locks (3) and (4). This is an exclusive lock. On SVR4-based systems, the lockf() subroutine or fcntl() system call it used instead of flock(). It is rumored that this creates a kind of lock file as well, but this has not been directly verified. _NOTE: flock() on BSD systems does not work over NFS, so only the most basic .lock file locking -- locks (1) and (2) happen over NFS. On SVR4 systems, fcntl() locking attempts to work over NFS, but there are known problems in the rpc.lockd daemon which have caused hangs if an application beats on the mechanism too much (and Pine beats on it). All of the above mechanisms work reliably over IMAP connections._ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: What happens when two Pine sessions access the same mailbox at the same time? This varies depending on what format your folders are stored in. With the default Berkeley format, the last session to open a folder will get full access to the folder and the previous session(s) will be changed to read-only access. When a folder is read-only, you will not see any further updates to that folder until it is reopened with full access. Currently the INBOX cannot be reopened without exiting and restarting Pine. With the Tenex format, any number of sessions can simultaneously have full access to a folder, with the exception that expunging is disabled. See "What is a Tenex mailbox and why should I use it?" for more information. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: Why did I get the message "locked, override in _XXX_ sec"? The message "locked, will override in _xxx_ seconds" occurs when Pine has discovered that some other mail program claims to be accessing your mail folder (i.e. _folder_.lock exists). This is a very low-level lock used by programs such as the system mailer in delivering mail, and by certain programs such as mail, elm, babyl, mm, etc. Supposedly, this lock is only to be acquired and held for a very short period of time (less than a second). It starts with 285 seconds, retries every second, and issues that message every 15 seconds. The total period of time, 5 minutes, is the time that it will keep on trying before it concludes that the lock is false -- that is, that whatever program locked the folder forgot to unlock it (perhaps it crashed) -- and Pine will go ahead and claim the lock for itself. This is not due to a conflict between two copies of Pine, since Pine interlocks against itself in a higher-level fashion. _NOTE: On some systems with 14 character filename limits, attempting to open a folder with a 14 character name (e.g. saved-messages) will trigger this sequence. Folder names should be limited to 9 characters or less on those systems._ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: Why doesn't Pine recognize Content-Length header field? It would be a significant detriment to the performance of the Berkeley format mailbox parsing code, as well as to Pine's behavior on normal systems which do not use the Content-Length: header, if any attempt were made to implement Content-Length:. There are many serious technical problems with the Content-Length: header, and we do not recommend its use. Furthermore, we recommend that a mail delivery agent such as our sendit or tmail tool be used that applies smart quoting, as opposed to the ordinary BSD /bin/mail quoting of all lines that begin with "From ". We have installed such tools on all of our systems. For example, one problem is that a system whose mailer does not implement Content-Length: will also not enforce its validity should that header appear. This offers significant potential for mischief. Another problem is that Berkeley format mailbox files which use the Content-Length: header can not be edited with an editor such as emacs or vi without invalidating the Content-Length: field. If this problem is not a consideration at your site, we recommend the use of the tenex format (mail.txt), which is also length tagged but in a much more efficient fashion. >From our perspective, these problems outweigh any possible benefit of supporting Content-Length: in Berkeley format mailbox files. At the present time there are no plans to do so. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: How do I "paste" an address from the addressbook into the text of a message? Pine does not currently support this directly, but here is a work-around: 1. Move the cursor to the Cc: line. 2. Enter the nickname or press Ctrl-T to search the addressbook and select the entry. 3. Use Ctrl-K to delete that address from the Cc: line. 4. Move the cursor where you want it in the body of the message. 5. Press Ctrl-U to insert the address. This is a round-about way to get the job done, but it works... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: How do I convert Berkeley Mail aliases to Pine Addressbook? The Pine source distribution includes a shell script to do this in the contrib/utils directory. It is called brk2pine.sh. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: Klaus Wacker Content-Description: How do I convert Elm aliases to Pine Addressbook? Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="+++++" --+++++ Content-Description: How do I convert Elm aliases to Pine Addressbook? I wrote my own perl script, which I claim digests everything elm accepts and converts it into something pine accepts. Please tell me if you find otherwise. I intend to use this script regularly to keep system-wide aliases and addressbooks in synch. It is archived at: http://www.Physik.Uni-Dortmund.DE/wacker/elm-to-pine A copy is below. --+++++ Content-Description: elm-to-pine: Convert elm aliases file to Pine Addressbook Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="elm-to-pine" #!/usr/local/bin/perl # # elm-to-pine: Convert elm aliases file to pine address book # Author: Klaus Wacker (wacker@Physik.Uni-Dortmund.DE) # # Usage e.g. # elm-to-pine ~/.elm/aliases.text >~/.addressbook # # get a line, combining continuation lines # that start with whitespace # (taken from the perl man page and modified) sub get_line { return 0 if eof(); $thisline = $lookahead; line: while ($lookahead = <>) { if ($lookahead =~ /^[ \t]/) { $thisline .= $lookahead; } else { last line; } } $thisline; } $lookahead = <>; # get first line while ($_ = do get_line()) { next if /^\#/; # Skip comments chop; s/\t/ /g; # Lets not get confused by any tabs in the file ($nicks,$name,$address)=split(/ *= */,$_,3); @nick=split(/ *, */,$nicks); ($fullname,$remark)=split(/ *, */,$name,2); $fullname =~ s/;/,/; # Lastname[;,] Firstname if ($address =~ /,/ ) {$address="(".$address.")";} # Its a list foreach $nicki (@nick) { # Pine doesn't allow multiple nicknames printf "%s\t%s\t%s\t\t%s\n", $nicki, $fullname, $address, $remark; $address = $nick[0]; # Let additional nicks point to the first one } } --+++++-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: Can Kerberos or AFS authentication be used with Pine? Not yet, but Kerberos support is planned for a future release of Pine. If you have access to Kerberos or AFS compatible IMAP clients already, the following information may be useful. The current version of imapd does not support AFS or Kerberos authentication. However, the routine which validates authentication is designed as a drop-in module, to allow you to replace with alternative authentication schemes such as AFS, Kerberos, S/Key, etc. This routine is server_login(). Depending upon which version of c-client you have, it is either in the os__xxx_.c (where _xxx_ is the name of your port) or it is in a file named log__yyy_.c which is included by the os_xxx.c file. The log__yyy_.c is usually log_std.c (std for "standard UNIX"), but it may be log_sv4.c (SVR4) or a couple of other variants. This file only contains that one routine, so it should be a simple matter to modify that file and rebuild imapd. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: Can PC-Pine be used with a POP server? No. Neither Pine nor PC-Pine currently support POP's offline mail model (wherein pending mail is pulled from the mail server to the local machine and deleted from the server). However, it is likely that this model will be supported, with a choice of either IMAP or POP as the access protocol, in a future release. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: What is a Tenex mailbox and why should I use it? Using the Tenex format for INBOXes allows multiple sessions (or mulitple users, subject to the usual access controls) to have *almost* full Read-Write access to the INBOX. The only limitation on full RW access is that if there are multiple sessions at a given moment, no one can do an Expunge. However, message state changes (e.g. marking a msg as deleted) *can* be done, and this state is preserved across sessions. If an explicit Expunge command fails, it will say so and tell you that the mailbox is in use by another process. When there is only one session left using that mailbox, expunge will resume working again. In contrast: the normal Berkeley style folders can have only one RW client at a time, so _given the current software_ the latest session steals the RW lock away from any previous session, with the earlier session becoming RO. NOTE: Mailbox format for INBOX is a function of the mail transfer agent (sendmail, tmail), not the mail user agent (Pine), so this is a decision for sys/mail admins, not for regular Pine users. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: Where does Pine look for configuration information? In Unix and PC Pine 3.90 and higher, the Release Notes (Press "R" on the Main Menu) contain a section on Configuration, including default file names and environment variables. Almost all personal configuration can be accomplished through the Setup (S) command on the main menu. Unix Pine uses three configuration files: a system-wide defaults file, a system-wide non-overridable settings file and a personal coniguration file. If you need to generate a "blank" copy of the system wide configuration files, run "pine -conf > /usr/local/lib". If, for some reason, you need to generate a blank personal configuration file, run "pine -P pinerc.blank". ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: How do I make Pine work with my older terminal? Pine does not support some older terminals (e.g. tvi925, WYSE-60) very well. Some problems can be overcome with a proper termcap entry, but others, such as handling cursor keys, do not have a good solution. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: How do I configure Pine to not leave mail in /usr/spool/mail? You have several options: 1. Leave inbox in /usr/spool/mail, but turn on the Pine option to prompt users to move read messages to a folder in their home directory upon exiting Pine. 2. Modify your mail delivery program to deliver mail directly into the user's home directory, and specify that inbox-path in your global pine.conf (See the "tmail" program on ftp.cac.washington.edu for an example.) 3. "touch mail.txt" in each home directory, which will cause Pine (upon startup) to pull mail from /usr/spool/mail into ~/mail.txt -- however, mail.txt will be a Tenex-format, rather than Berkeley mail format folder (faster, but non-standard). 4. Link in the "mbox" driver when you build Pine. This driver will (upon Pine startup) pull mail from /usr/spool/mail into ~/mbox, which will be a Bky-format folder. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: To what platforms has Pine been ported? The Pine distribution includes binaries for AIX 3.2 (on RS/6000), HP/UX 9.0, Linux 1.1, NeXTStep (on NeXT hardware), SunOS 4.1 (on SPARCStations), Solaris 2.2, Ultrix 4.1 and 4.2 (on DECStations), MS-DOS (PC-Pine) and MS-Windows (PC-Pine for Windows). PC-Pine is available for the following TCP/IP stacks: FTP's PC/TCP, University of Waterloo's WATTCP stack with packet drivers, Novell's LAN Workplace, Sun's PC/NFS, and Winsock. Pine has been compiled on other UNIX platforms (4.3 Berkeley UNIX, DEC OSF/1 V1.2A, Dynix/PTX V1.4.0, VAX Ultrix 4.1, A/UX 3.0, BSD/386 Gamma 4.1, Convex, Dynix 3.0 and 3.1 on Sequent Symmetry, Interactive Systems Corporation UNIX, Silicon Graphics IRIS with IRIX 4.0.1, SCO Unix, System V release 4) as well. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: Pine 3.89 on an IBM RS/6000 running AIX 3.2.3 crashes every time I try to open a folder. Some AIX distributions apparently include a compiler that does not correctly compile certain constructs used in Pine 3.89 and earlier. We think that Pine 3.90 works around the problems but it is difficult for us to confirm this since there is considerable variation among AIX systems. We have also not been able to identify a particular version or patch of AIX or the compiler that is the culprit. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: Gunther Anderson Content-Description: I cannot compile under SCO unix, why not? Pine has been tested and compiles just fine on a suitably equipped SCO Unix 3.2.4, and probably works on the whole 3.2 series (testing has not been as extensive). It handles both MMDF and sendmail mailboxes without needing recompilation. It should be sufficient just to unpack the source tree and run "sh build sco" at the top level. You need to own the complete Development System, and the Developer's Versions of the other packages. Pine will not compile without TCP/IP support. The most common problem is when people own the Development System, but keep getting missing header files (netbd.h is one) in their builds. This is a common problem on SCO systems because of the great fragmentation SCO enjoys in the marketing of system components. It is easy to get confused about just what you've bought. And in this case, haven't bought. What you need is the "Developer's Version" of the TCP/IP product. The normal version just supports the TCP/IP protocol, but doesn't include tools (including header files) to compile TCP/IP-specific programs. Alas, the only remedies available to you are to pick up a pre-compiled version (mine is on odi.cwc.whecn.edu, ftp.celestial.com has their own, which prefers Bezerk mailboxes, though it supports MMDF too), or to buy the Developer's Version of TCP/IP. If you intend to do any serious compiling of Internet- available programs, I'd recommend the latter, though many of the most useful ones are available precompiled on other FTP sites. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: Why should I use the builtin Bug Report command? Using the built-in Bug Report command (B on the Main Menu or any Help screen) is useful because it will automatically include configuration information that may be essential to determining the cause of the problem you are experiencing. It also gives you the opportunity to conveniently include the current message as an attachment in case you believe that the problem is specific to that message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: Why does the Bug Report Screen come up when I didn't ask for it? We don't know yet. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: I have found a bug in Pine 3.05. Could you please fix it? When a bug is identified in an old release, there is a very strong possibility that the associated code has been re-written to the point that a fix will not apply to the current release. Hence, if we can't reproduce the problem in the current version, our standard response will be to ask you to upgrade. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: What are the current versions of Pine and related software? The current version of Pine is 3.91. The current version of Pico is 2.5. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: What is new in this version of Pine? These are the changes and improvements since Pine 3.89: * Finished all the "Not implemented yet" commands: + Bounce (Remail) + Flag (Set message status) + Pipe (Pipe msg to external cmd; Unix only) + Select,Apply,Zoom (Aggregate operations) + Setup/Config (Pinerc configuration screen) * News posting * News subscription/unsubscription * Multiple address books * Postpone multiple messages * Customizable headers for Composer * Mailcap support * Improved support for multiple incoming message folders * enable-alternate-editor-implicitly feature (except for editing headers) * All .pinerc features now settable from command line * Way to control which options are user-configurable (Unix only) * Way to have Save *not* implicitly delete * Way to use current-working-directory for Export, Read File, etc. * A _preliminary_ version of PC-Pine for Windows/Winsock (but not OS/2) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: When is the next release of Pine (tentatively) scheduled? We don't know right now. 3.92 is under active development, but no dates yet. Besides, our track-record on meeting projected release schedules is terrible, so you shouldn't believe any dates we are foolish enough to suggest anyway. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: What new features will future releases of Pine include? The list for 3.92 is not frozen yet. This release will have a number of bug fixes, but it will also introduce several new features. Some of the things we know will be there include: o Fix for some pine.conf variables not working (e.g. local bug address). o Delete flag will no longer be preserved on Save. o Bky mbox format performance bug fixed. o Reply prompt will change if there is a Newsgroups header present. o Improvements in software flow-control handling. o Improvements in bug report command. o Ability to specify an alternative to the sendmail MTA. o Support for negotiating 8BITMIME with an ESMTP server. o Mouse support for use with X terminals. o Pull-down command menus in the Windows version. o Feature to disable capture of pipe command output. o Ability to use mailcap viewer for attachments of type TEXT. o Support for .mime.types file to specify attachment types. After 3.92 is released, here are a few of the things that we plan to work on: * Additional MIME support, esp. controlling file TYPING * PEM and/or PGP support * External directory services access * Kerberos support * RFC1522 header encoding for 8bit character sets * Location independence of support files * Offline support * Hierarchy support (awaits IMAP4) * Answered flag not set if reply is postponed (awaits IMAP4) * Faster detection of folders with Recent messages (awaits IMAP4) * Faster fetching of headers (awaits IMAP4) * Determination of which flags are permanent (awaits IMAP4) -------------------------------- -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 3 17:30:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15476; Sun, 3 Sep 95 17:30:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23729; Sun, 3 Sep 95 17:28:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23723; Sun, 3 Sep 95 17:28:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spPMv-00038HC; Sun, 3 Sep 95 17:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: ***** URGENTLY NEED HELP WITH MIME/PINE *** Date: 4 Sep 95 00:04:03 GMT Message-Id: References: <42d4k3$qp7@linet02.li.net> Status: O X-Status: yossl@newshost.li.net (Joe Brook) writes: >My ISP uses PINE 3.91 as a mail agent. I am receiving a great deal of >mail that is MIME encoded but neither the ISP nor myself have any idea as >to how to couple the two together. Every time I select Y to read in MIME >format I receive the message "Metamail not found" Sounds like metamail isn't found in the path used by PINE. At least this answer fits 90% of the cases where this error occurs. Followup-To: comp.mail.pine !! Sven Cc: yossl@newshost.li.net (Joe Brook) -- ELM - the screen oriented mail program. Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm ELM versions: Latest release: ELM 2.4 PL24 || Latest alpha: ELM 2.5a06 The "ELM Pages" - all about ELM on the World Wide Web: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ [950825] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 3 17:44:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15828; Sun, 3 Sep 95 17:44:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23915; Sun, 3 Sep 95 17:42:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from frank.mtsu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23909; Sun, 3 Sep 95 17:41:59 -0700 Received: by frank.mtsu.edu (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA075335336; Sun, 3 Sep 1995 19:42:16 -0500 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 19:42:15 -0500 (CDT) From: tyoung To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Internet/E-mail correspondence Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am new on this service and I don't know anyone with the Internet/E-mail. Is there anyway I can get on a list for correspondence? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 3 21:24:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19168; Sun, 3 Sep 95 21:24:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05394; Sun, 3 Sep 95 21:21:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05388; Sun, 3 Sep 95 21:21:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spSxh-00038HC; Sun, 3 Sep 95 21:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: ***** URGENTLY NEED HELP WITH MIME/PINE *** Date: 4 Sep 1995 03:42:54 GMT Message-Id: <42dsju$2sh@grape.epix.net> References: <42d4gm$qp7@linet02.li.net> Status: O X-Status: Joe Brook (yossl@newshost.li.net) wrote: : My ISP uses PINE 3.91 as a mail agent. I am receiving a great deal of : mail that is MIME encoded but neither the ISP nor myself have any idea as : to how to couple the two together. Every time I select Y to read in MIME : format I receive the message "Metamail not found" : Please help if you can or steer me in the right direction. : TIA JoeB Try answering N rather than Y ... only a thought ... G'Day. /\ /~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ cc m j From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 3 21:47:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19457; Sun, 3 Sep 95 21:47:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26105; Sun, 3 Sep 95 21:44:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26099; Sun, 3 Sep 95 21:44:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spTNy-00038HC; Sun, 3 Sep 95 21:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jef@netcom.com (Jef Poskanzer) Subject: Re: Does pine read all the mail into memory? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 04:09:59 GMT Status: O X-Status: I wrote: >I don't use pine myself, haven't done more than browse through >the man page. I'm a sysadmin on a public access system where it's >installed. One of our users has a 17meg mail file (he likes mailing >lists), and I've noticed that when he fires up pine he gets a ~25meg >process, we run out of memory and start swapping, and system performance >goes to hell. > >Is pine really reading the whole mail file into memory? Is there >a way to configure it to not do this? The answer is yes, it really does. Accordingly I produced the appended patch which makes pine refuse to read mailboxes larger than a megabyte. Enjoy. --- Jef Jef Poskanzer jef@acme.com jef@river.org http://www.river.org/~jef/ "If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man." -- Mark Twain *** 1.1 1995/09/04 03:45:35 --- c-client/bezerk.c 1995/09/04 04:01:48 *************** *** 1263,1268 **** --- 1263,1277 ---- return -1; } fstat (fd,&sbuf); /* get status */ + /* check for too-large mailboxes */ + if (sbuf.st_size > 1000000L) { + sprintf (LOCAL->buf,"Mailbox is too large, aborted - use another mail program until it's smaller"); + mm_log (LOCAL->buf,ERROR); + bezerk_unlock (fd,stream,lock); + bezerk_abort (stream); + mail_unlock (stream); + return -1; + } /* calculate change in size */ if ((delta = sbuf.st_size - LOCAL->filesize) < 0) { sprintf (LOCAL->buf,"Mailbox shrank from %d to %d bytes, aborted", From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 4 01:19:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23364; Mon, 4 Sep 95 01:19:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08200; Mon, 4 Sep 95 01:13:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08194; Mon, 4 Sep 95 01:13:56 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 4 Sep 1995 09:11:49 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA00460; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 09:12:30 +0100 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 09:12:29 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Jibby Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Usenet In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This anser assumes you are using Pine 3.91... First go into the Setup Configuration screen (S then C from the Main Menu) and make sure you have the "enable-aggregate-command-set" feature turned on. This adds three very useful commands to Pine's menus: ; Select -- selects a set of messages according to a criterion A Apply -- applies a command to the set of selected messages Z Zoom -- Zoom the index to just show selected messages Thus the sequence to "catch-up" a newsgroup (also works for mail folders) is to select the messages you want to operate on (ithis case all of them) and then apply a "delete" command to them: ; A A D Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sun, 3 Sep 1995, Jibby wrote: > Please Help > I was wondering if there is a way to get rid of all the messages > in a usenet news group. For example, I joined the Phish news group and > it has over a 1000 messages. I can't read all those, I want to start > with todays messages and go from there...how do I do that? Rather than > going through and deleteing every message until I am current. I am using > PINE 3.91. > Any Help is greatly loved...Thanks in advance. > > _______________________________________________________jibby@mail.unm.edu_______ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 4 06:45:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29686; Mon, 4 Sep 95 06:45:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12241; Mon, 4 Sep 95 06:40:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12233; Mon, 4 Sep 95 06:40:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spbjy-00038DC; Mon, 4 Sep 95 06:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Davy Cheung Subject: Re: "From" userid authentication Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 20:58:51 +0800 Message-Id: References: <1995Sep1.093800.857@cesi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1995Sep1.093800.857@cesi> Status: O X-Status: Hello, On 1 Sep 1995, Giuseppe Bottasini wrote: > Is it possible to force the "From" user-id to be identical to login username ? In view of programming, I believe it is possible. However, I believe it is not too meaningful to do so too. In SMTP, it is always easy to fake others' ID... Regards, Davy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 4 06:54:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29864; Mon, 4 Sep 95 06:54:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01788; Mon, 4 Sep 95 06:45:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01782; Mon, 4 Sep 95 06:45:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spboM-00038CC; Mon, 4 Sep 95 06:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Davy Cheung Subject: Re: can't connect to linux 143? Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 21:19:07 +0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Hello, On 30 Aug 1995, Aladdin Khamis wrote: > When I try access a folder that is setting on my Linux server I get an > error like what you see in the subject field. And then I get another > error message saying: "Can't access server". I got similar error message sometime ago too. That was due to imapd was not installed in my Linux server. Get a copy of imapd for Linux from ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine. Then add it into inet.conf and /etc/services (143/tcp). Hope this works. Regards, Davy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 4 07:01:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00179; Mon, 4 Sep 95 07:01:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12297; Mon, 4 Sep 95 06:45:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12290; Mon, 4 Sep 95 06:45:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spboM-00038DC; Mon, 4 Sep 95 06:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Davy Cheung Subject: Re: Connecting to Pine Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 21:22:19 +0800 Message-Id: References: <425nd6$8mu@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <425nd6$8mu@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> Status: O X-Status: Hello, On 1 Sep 1995, Rich Ruggiero wrote: > capable of running winsock clients, but I can't seem to get PC-PIne to > operate. If anyone can help, it would be most appreciated. Actually, what problem did you have? Does you ISP support imap? Regards, Davy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 4 07:06:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00284; Mon, 4 Sep 95 07:06:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01882; Mon, 4 Sep 95 06:55:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01876; Mon, 4 Sep 95 06:55:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spbvu-00038CC; Mon, 4 Sep 95 06:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Davy Cheung Subject: Re: Base64 decoder ??? Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 21:06:47 +0800 Message-Id: References: <4205rh$efg@watt.electriciti.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4205rh$efg@watt.electriciti.com> Status: O X-Status: Hello, On Tue, 29 Aug 1995, Fred A Watkins wrote: > >Can anyone mail me the ftp-path to a unix-source for a decoder that decodes > >the base64-format ? doesn't need to be a complete program, just a code, that > >I can compiler under Linux. A DOS executable would also be good. Oh yes, I have a DOS MIME en/decoder in hand. E-Mail me if you want. Regards, Davy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 4 07:17:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00426; Mon, 4 Sep 95 07:17:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12634; Mon, 4 Sep 95 07:10:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12628; Mon, 4 Sep 95 07:10:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spcDy-00038CC; Mon, 4 Sep 95 07:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Davy Cheung Subject: Re: Pico binarys for SCO anywhere?? Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 21:32:47 +0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Hello, On Sat, 2 Sep 1995, Phill Lowe wrote: > I'd like to run pico on our SCO unix box. We don't have C so I'd have > to get GCC up first then compile pico. I am trying to find an easier way. Visit ftp.cac.washington.edu and go into /pine. There are a few "ready-to-run" pico ports. See if there is one for SCO. Regards, Davy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 4 07:52:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00999; Mon, 4 Sep 95 07:52:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02424; Mon, 4 Sep 95 07:45:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02418; Mon, 4 Sep 95 07:45:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spciA-00038CC; Mon, 4 Sep 95 07:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Davy Cheung Subject: PINE 3.91 on SVR4 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:25:44 +0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello, I tried to compile PINE 3.91 on UNIX System V Release 4. But there seemed to be problems with addrbook.c. pico, imapd and the imap test program could all be successfully built, while pine couldn't. As I am not familiar with C, I didn't understand what the problem was. I think sv4 should be the appropriate makefile, right? Does anyone succeed to build pine 3.91 on this platform? Thanks a lot. Regards, Davy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 4 08:25:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01536; Mon, 4 Sep 95 08:25:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13352; Mon, 4 Sep 95 08:05:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13346; Mon, 4 Sep 95 08:05:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spd3Q-00038CC; Mon, 4 Sep 95 08:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nisheeth Parekh Subject: Re: Suppressing Fcc in Unix Pine Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 21:59:23 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <411fva$8tu@news.alaska.edu> Status: O X-Status: _____________________________________________________________________________ >From the Desk of Nisheeth Parekh, University of Texas Medical Branch nparekh@marlin.utmb.edu at Galveston _____________________________________________________________________________ On 18 Aug 1995, Tom McGrane wrote: > How do you stop Unix Pine from saving a copy of every message sent into > the Fcc folder? > > Help in setup/config says to use "" as the "default Fcc folder name. but > that just causes a folder called "" to be created. > > Thanks. > > > -- > Tom McGrane > KUAC FM/TV > University of Alaska Fairbanks > TFTFM@AURORA.ALASKA.EDU > I had the same experience. So, instead of typing "", I simply changed the default Fcc folder option to a blank space and pushed return. The set up then showed the value for my default Fcc. This works perfectly for me. Nisheeth ______________________________________________________________________________ Nisheeth Parekh - University of Texas Medical Branch @ Galveston nparekh@marlin.utmb.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 4 08:56:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02221; Mon, 4 Sep 95 08:56:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03213; Mon, 4 Sep 95 08:50:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03207; Mon, 4 Sep 95 08:50:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spdiZ-00038CC; Mon, 4 Sep 95 08:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jicore@umiacs.umd.edu (Joshua Icore) Subject: Re: Suppressing Fcc in Unix Pine Date: 4 Sep 1995 15:01:49 GMT Message-Id: <42f4ct$ja8@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: Nisheeth Parekh (nparekh@marlin.utmb.edu) wrote: : _____________________________________________________________________________ : From the Desk of Nisheeth Parekh, University of Texas Medical Branch : nparekh@marlin.utmb.edu at Galveston : _____________________________________________________________________________ : On 18 Aug 1995, Tom McGrane wrote: : > How do you stop Unix Pine from saving a copy of every message sent into : > the Fcc folder? : > : > Help in setup/config says to use "" as the "default Fcc folder name. but : > that just causes a folder called "" to be created. : > : > Thanks. : > : > : > -- : > Tom McGrane : > KUAC FM/TV : > University of Alaska Fairbanks : > TFTFM@AURORA.ALASKA.EDU : > : I had the same experience. So, instead of typing "", I simply changed the : default Fcc folder option to a blank space and pushed return. The set up : then showed the value for my default Fcc. This works : perfectly for me. : Nisheeth Actually, I believe the "proper" way to suppress Fcc is to set the default to /dev/null (on *nix). -- /_/_ Joshua R. Icore _\_\ /_/_ Lance Corporal, USMCR _\_\ /_/_ jicore@umiacs.umd.edu _\_\ /_/_ http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~jicore _\_\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 4 09:49:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03947; Mon, 4 Sep 95 09:49:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14824; Mon, 4 Sep 95 09:45:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14818; Mon, 4 Sep 95 09:45:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spebL-00038CC; Mon, 4 Sep 95 09:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marielle Schneider Subject: Pico behaves strangely with Windows 3.11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <1995Sep4.153515.6575@news.unige.ch> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 15:35:15 GMT Status: O X-Status: As I try to compose a message with Pico, I get a hard return for each space I type in, and "alpha" instead of an accentued e, "beta" for another accentued character. Using the SET FONT Option for the menu bar and choosing Fixedsys instead of the default which is nothing, fixes the accentued character set pb but not the space pb. The new selected font is not saved and the next time I start Pine alphas and betas are back... Is there any way to configure Pico? What's wrong? Help is really appreciated. -- .. Marielle Schneider The Graduate Institute of International Studies (I.U.H.E.I) Rue de Lausanne 132 - Case postale 36 - CH 1211 Geneva 21 tel : +41 22 731 17 30 or +41 22 734 89 50 email: schneidm@hei.unige.ch - www : http://heiwww.unige.ch/schneidm/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 4 09:50:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03985; Mon, 4 Sep 95 09:50:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04029; Mon, 4 Sep 95 09:45:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04023; Mon, 4 Sep 95 09:45:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spebL-00038DC; Mon, 4 Sep 95 09:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Jagdis Subject: Re: Does pine read all the mail into memory? Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 14:29:11 GMT Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: Jef Poskanzer said: >>Is pine really reading the whole mail file into memory? Is there >>a way to configure it to not do this? > >The answer is yes, it really does. Accordingly I produced the appended >patch which makes pine refuse to read mailboxes larger than a megabyte. Alternatively create an empty file "mail.txt" in the user's home directory. When Pine finds mail in the INBOX it will move it to this mail.txt file which is stored in Tenex format. Tenex format mail files aren't slurped in to memory and can be modified in place without copying the whole file - a great improvement if you are in the habit of having dirty great messages... Mike -- Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Voice: +44 1734 890403 Fax: +44 1734 891192 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 4 10:59:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05489; Mon, 4 Sep 95 10:59:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15842; Mon, 4 Sep 95 10:55:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15836; Mon, 4 Sep 95 10:55:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spfhV-00038CC; Mon, 4 Sep 95 10:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: glass@tavosf.iso.dec.com (Yossi Glass) Subject: Is it possible to set an auto-reply? Date: 4 Sep 1995 16:56:33 GMT Message-Id: <42fb41$582@mrnews.mro.dec.com> Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to set in pine an auto reply message (one that is sent automatically as a reply to any new message). Regards, Yossi. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yossi Glass phone (972) 9-593254 (DTN 882-3254) Digital Equipment (DEC) Ltd. Israel fax (972) 9-542530 email: glass@tavosf.iso.dec.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 4 12:07:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07266; Mon, 4 Sep 95 12:07:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05717; Mon, 4 Sep 95 12:01:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05707; Mon, 4 Sep 95 12:01:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spghV-00038HC; Mon, 4 Sep 95 11:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: errol@io.org (Errol Porter) Subject: How to Filter Out Unwanted Mail Date: 4 Sep 1995 14:36:09 -0400 Message-Id: <42fgup$4m@ionews.io.org> Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to block or eliminate unwanted mail from a specific source? Any suggestions would be appreciated as I am being bombarded by mail from someone advertising a product who somehow got my email address and won't stop sending his rubbish. Thanks. -- Errol Porter Horizon Books errol@io.org (416) 226-4282 | Travel & Exploration http://www.io.org/~errol/ | Natural History From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 4 15:02:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11100; Mon, 4 Sep 95 15:02:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07914; Mon, 4 Sep 95 14:58:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07908; Mon, 4 Sep 95 14:58:08 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA26192; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 17:58:01 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id RAA31648; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 17:58:00 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA29049; Mon, 4 Sep 95 17:56:39 EDT Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 17:56:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Ron Richolson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How Can I *&^%$@#-list Someone's Mail? In-Reply-To: <41v4is$594@nbc.ksu.ksu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: There is a program called procmail which can be programmed by each user to redirect a user's incoming mail to different incoming folders, to other users, or to the bit bucket based on information in the message header. Barring getting your system administrators to install procmain and your setting up a procmail program script, you can use pine to quickly sort your incoming mail by subject, From, etc, or select by subject, From, etc., and then Apply Delete and eXpunge the unwanted messages. I use the latter, not wanting to mess with procmail. Good luck. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com On 29 Aug 1995, Ron Richolson wrote: > ez055079@betty.ucdavis.edu (Elizabeth Mills) writes: > > >is it possible to automatically bounce messages from a particular sender? > >i don't particularly want to receive mail from certain person and i'd > >like to just bounce it back to them w/ some sort of "your mail is being > >refused" message. > > >i can't find anything in the pine program that does this. is there a way > >thru pine? or do i have to write a unix script to do the deed... let > >me know, please. > > >email me at: eamills@ucdavis.edu > > Please post the info. Since school has started my junk e-mail has > gone up. I would also like to do the above. > > > Ron Richolson > Associate Professor amateur call: KA7FYA > KSU-Salina rrich@ksu.ksu.edu > 2409 Scanlan > Salina, KS 67401 (913)-826-2675 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 4 15:12:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11284; Mon, 4 Sep 95 15:12:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19540; Mon, 4 Sep 95 15:07:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19526; Mon, 4 Sep 95 15:06:59 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 5 Sep 95 06:04:26 +0800 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 06:04:26 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Davy Cheung Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE 3.91 on SVR4 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 4 Sep 1995, Davy Cheung wrote: > I tried to compile PINE 3.91 on UNIX System V Release 4. But there seemed > to be problems with addrbook.c. pico, imapd and the imap test program > could all be successfully built, while pine couldn't. As I am not familiar > with C, I didn't understand what the problem was. > > I think sv4 should be the appropriate makefile, right? Does anyone succeed > to build pine 3.91 on this platform? In the makefile.sv4 (or whatever...) you need to add -Dconst= to the CFLAGS= line. That should take care of it.... Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 4 15:18:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11398; Mon, 4 Sep 95 15:18:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08081; Mon, 4 Sep 95 15:15:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08075; Mon, 4 Sep 95 15:15:20 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 5 Sep 95 06:12:48 +0800 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 06:12:47 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Yossi Glass Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Is it possible to set an auto-reply? In-Reply-To: <42fb41$582@mrnews.mro.dec.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 4 Sep 1995, Yossi Glass wrote: > Is it possible to set in pine an auto reply message (one that is sent > automatically as a reply to any new message). No, that is not the job of pine and should not be the job of pine or any User Agent for that matter. Many Unix systems have the "vacation" program that will take care of your needs. Type "man vacation". Otherwise, you can always use the mail filter programs such as "procmail". Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 4 16:44:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12824; Mon, 4 Sep 95 16:44:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20669; Mon, 4 Sep 95 16:36:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20663; Mon, 4 Sep 95 16:36:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spl2O-00038CC; Mon, 4 Sep 95 16:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root Subject: (no subject) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 1995 22:56:21 GMT Message-Id: <810255381.22214@pundit.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: RO X-Status: -- Dear Pinesters: I would dearly like to be able to make my Pine work with a localy running copy of Cnews. Does anybody know how to set this up? I currently use nn and tin - they both suck. Only pine will do! I also have a not entirely related to pine problem: Whenever I post some news, this happens: --Posting article...relaynews: set[ug]id failed (Bad file number) I suspect this may be something to do with permissions or something dull like that. According to some dox somebody gave me I have to set file permissions thus: FILE(S) OR DIRECTORY(IES) OWNER GROUP OTHER REQUIREMENTS ------------------------- ----- ----- ------------------ /var/lib/news/setnewsids root (any) setuid /usr/lib/newsbin/relay/relaynews news news setuid + setgid /usr/lib/newsbin/input/newsspool news news setuid + setgid Can somebody explain to me what setuid and setgid actualy mean and the syntax of the command used to change them? Please reply to me via mail rather than in this newsgroup. Apologies for the partial off-topicness of this message. *** Salim Fadhley - Projects co-ordinator of University Radio Nottingham *** eMail: psykscf@unicorn.nott.ac.uk http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~scf From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 4 16:45:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12871; Mon, 4 Sep 95 16:45:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08910; Mon, 4 Sep 95 16:41:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08904; Mon, 4 Sep 95 16:41:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spl4l-00038CC; Mon, 4 Sep 95 16:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Wells Subject: Pine 3.91 Security Patch Date: 4 Sep 1995 22:58:37 GMT Message-Id: <42g0at$qv8@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: titl: Pine 3.91 FreePort Security Patch rev: 25.08.95 auth: John Wells , CapAccess Freenet Staff abs: This will patch the original Pine 3.91 mailer to allow greater security. Some Features ------------- * Restricted directory access above the user's home directory * Disallowed 'read file' option from inside Pico * Restricted feature list using the included 'pine-fp.conf[.fixed]' file(s) License ------- This patch is distributed under the GNU Public License. If the file COPYING was not included with the patch, it can be obtained by ftp at prep.ai.mit.edu:/pub/gnu/COPYING Installation ------------ 1. Make/rename a directory 'clnpine' for the original Pine sources and a directory 'pine' for the "dirty" Pine sources. Follow the same procedure for Pico: e.g. 'clnpico' and 'pico'. 2. If you don't use os_unix.c as your osdep.c file in the Pico directory, make sure you copy os_unix.c to osdep.c before you use the patch. 3. The vital FreePort information (location of the pine-fp.conf[.fixed] file(s), exempt group, etc.) are located in pico.h and pine.h respectively. Change those to suit your needs 4. Use 'patch < pine.diff' from your Pine source directory. 5. Recompile. Notes ----- I compiled this under a SunOS 4.1.2 machine using the Sun 'cc'. Things should work under any Unix machine, but if they don't, mail me. :) This patch archive is available by anonymous ftp at ftp.capaccess.org:/pub/freeport/pine/3.91/pine3.91-fp.tar.gz. Please direct all questions/comments/suggestions (I know there'll be suggestions :) to . ---------------------------------------------------------------------- John Wells | Reply to jowells.vt.edu CapAccess Staff | Pine 3.91-FP Development / Help Desk | ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 4 18:01:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14660; Mon, 4 Sep 95 18:01:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21944; Mon, 4 Sep 95 17:56:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21938; Mon, 4 Sep 95 17:56:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spmFF-00038CC; Mon, 4 Sep 95 17:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hgoldste@bbs.mpcs.com (Howard Goldstein) Subject: Re: Does pine read all the mail into memory? Date: 5 Sep 1995 01:05:49 GMT Message-Id: <42g7pd$28t@ddi2.digital.net> References: Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 4 Sep 1995 14:29:11 GMT, Mike Jagdis wrote: : Alternatively create an empty file "mail.txt" in the user's home : directory. When Pine finds mail in the INBOX it will move it to this : mail.txt file which is stored in Tenex format. Mike, is this behavior documented anywhere? -- Howard Goldstein, N2WX http://www.tapr.org/~n2wx/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 4 18:44:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15580; Mon, 4 Sep 95 18:44:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10451; Mon, 4 Sep 95 18:41:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10445; Mon, 4 Sep 95 18:41:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spmwm-00038CC; Mon, 4 Sep 95 18:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ben@chinook.uoregon.edu (Ben Marcotte) Subject: Pine does not use a mime.types file??? Date: 5 Sep 1995 00:44:14 GMT Message-Id: <42g6gu$2ql@pith.uoregon.edu> Status: O X-Status: I've looked through some of the FAQ's and the technical specifications document on the pine web server (http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine) and I would like to know if someone here can verify an observation of mine. If I understand correctly, Pine uses the ~/.mailcap file (or $MAILCAP or /etc/mailcap) file for decoding a mime-encoded message, but it does not use any configuration file (such as a ~/.mime.types) to determine content-type when encoding a message. Instead it does some kludgy internal file-type identification scheme to set the content-type. Is this correct? Is there anyway around this? Might something like a .mime.types file be used in version 3.92 or later? ============================================================================== Ben Marcotte ben@chinook.uoregon.edu (503) 346-4592 ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 4 19:54:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17083; Mon, 4 Sep 95 19:54:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23558; Mon, 4 Sep 95 19:46:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23552; Mon, 4 Sep 95 19:46:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spnxt-00038CC; Mon, 4 Sep 95 19:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Vern Buis Subject: Win95 Winsock & Pine? Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 20:59:09 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I'm attempting to get the Winsock version of PC Pine to run under the Windows 95 Winsock. Has anyone else done this? I have other applications, such as Netscape, running, but Pine reports the following when trying to open an inbox: Host not found (#11004): 164.119.101.1. I have never before tried to run the Winsock Pine, so could have problems not related to Win95 (we normally run the Novell Lan WorkPlace version). Any reports or suggestions greatly appreciated. Thanks! Vern Buis Internet: vbuis@neon.nlc.state.ne.us Computer Services Director CompuServe: 76666,103 Nebraska Library Commission From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 4 20:59:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18403; Mon, 4 Sep 95 20:59:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12001; Mon, 4 Sep 95 20:57:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11995; Mon, 4 Sep 95 20:57:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spp6u-00038CC; Mon, 4 Sep 95 20:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mcm7738@is2.nyu.edu (Michael C. Montero) Subject: How do I get "Reply To:" in PINE 3.89? Date: 4 Sep 1995 22:03:32 GMT Message-Id: <42ft3k$632@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> Status: O X-Status: I am running PINE 3.89 from my home machine using Linux. I pop my mail from a server at NYU. However, when I send mail from my home machine, the address used is localhost@nyu.edu (I am using SLIP). People cannot reply to this. I want to send out mail with PINE activating the "Reply To:" options so that I can put my NYU e-mail address in it. I have been searching for this for days. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Mike mcm7738@is2.nyu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 4 21:02:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18494; Mon, 4 Sep 95 21:02:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24622; Mon, 4 Sep 95 20:57:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24616; Mon, 4 Sep 95 20:57:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0spp6v-00038DC; Mon, 4 Sep 95 20:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mcm7738@is2.nyu.edu (Michael C. Montero) Subject: Re: HELP: Vacation EMAIL?? Date: 4 Sep 1995 22:06:32 GMT Message-Id: <42ft98$632@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> References: Status: O X-Status: The vacation program can be tricky since there are another 2 files (I believe) on which it relies. O'Reilly's THE WHOLE INTERNET gives an excellent description on how to set up this program. Mike Paul O Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) wrote: : On 31 Aug 1995, DARSHANA wrote: : > I would like to know how to set up pine to send out : > vacation email automatically when you receive an email. : Pine itself will not do this for you. You have to use some other : facility, which will depend on what kind of system you are on. IF you : are on a Unix(-like) system, there is a 'vacation' command, or you can be : more elaborate and use a program like procmail. : Paul : -------------------------------------------------- : Paul O. Bartlett : P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. : Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key : -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 4 21:45:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19146; Mon, 4 Sep 95 21:45:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12479; Mon, 4 Sep 95 21:43:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12472; Mon, 4 Sep 95 21:43:34 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10594; Mon, 4 Sep 95 21:43:30 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 21:42:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Ben Marcotte Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine does not use a mime.types file??? In-Reply-To: <42g6gu$2ql@pith.uoregon.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: Ben, A .mime.types file will indeed be supported in version 3.92. -teg On 5 Sep 1995, Ben Marcotte wrote: > > I've looked through some of the FAQ's and the technical specifications > document on the pine web server (http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine) and I > would like to know if someone here can verify an observation of mine. If > I understand correctly, Pine uses the ~/.mailcap file (or $MAILCAP or > /etc/mailcap) file for decoding a mime-encoded message, but it does not > use any configuration file (such as a ~/.mime.types) to determine > content-type when encoding a message. Instead it does some kludgy > internal file-type identification scheme to set the content-type. > > Is this correct? Is there anyway around this? Might something like a > .mime.types file be used in version 3.92 or later? > > ============================================================================== > Ben Marcotte ben@chinook.uoregon.edu (503) 346-4592 > ============================================================================== > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 5 05:09:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28311; Tue, 5 Sep 95 05:09:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00990; Tue, 5 Sep 95 05:04:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tortoise.oise.on.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00984; Tue, 5 Sep 95 05:04:49 -0700 Received: by tortoise.oise.on.ca (5.0/SMI-SVR4 (rsm940906)) id AA27190; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 07:58:19 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 07:58:18 -0400 (EDT) From: William McQueen To: tyoung Cc: Pine-info List Subject: Re: Internet/E-mail correspondence In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 3520 Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 3 Sep 1995, tyoung wrote: > > I am new on this service and I don't know anyone with the > Internet/E-mail. Is there anyway I can get on a list for correspondence? > Listserver programmes on virtual machines distribute mail to lists of subscribers who discuss specific subjects or topics of interest to the group. There are several brands of listservers: majordomo, listserv, listproc, and listmanager are known to me. Each is similar, with a variety of range and possibility of commands. Listserv is the oldest, has the widest use and can be asked to look for lists which are of interest to you through keyword search. Although I think majordomo is fast behind listserv in popularity, there is a reluctance of its creators to develop the advanced search techniques of "Listserv." Commands contained in email messages may be sent to known sites which maintain lists and each site will respond with the names of various lists which they maintain and distribute. BUT you must know the kind of listserver which is used in each case. Each variety of listserv generally responds to the command HELP which you insert in an email message to the machine which maintains the lists. So, if you know a particular site you wish to search for a list which interests you, you may send, for example, the command HELP in an email to majordomo@site_name. This variety of listserv will send back a short synopsis of commands and information. Listserv programme - which is the original listserver - has a more complete system of interaction, and for that reason is a little complicated. But once you have studied its commands, it will provide you more information about the kinds of lists using the programme throughout the entire internet and you can more easily identify the discussion groups in which you wish to participate. This is accomplished through keyword search. As a trial you might send commands to one of the main distribution machines for Listserv at the following address: listserv@cunyvm.cuny.edu Try these commands: get refcard help You can actually stack these commands within a single email. AND, if you already have an idea of a topical list to which you would like to subscribe, you may want to try the following command: Lists Global /xyz WHERE xyz is a keyword, e.g. music, disability, math, ESL etc. It is a very literal search of all listserv sites known to the cunyvm machine, so you may have to refine the word you use. For example DISAB will pick up disability and disabled. But you may want to try the word handicap (even though this word is often misused). NB! If you fail to use the slash switch / with the qualifier "Global", the server will return a HUGE file with hundreds and hundreds of lists from sites all over the world. (This file is REALLY big.) Using the word "Lists" by itself will return a list of only the lists provided by the cunyvm machine itself. Finally, the help files will tell you the explicit way in which you may join a list discussion group. The keyword list from listserv will also tell you how to join the specific lists for which you have searched. I hope this information will help you in your search. Bill McQueen in Toronto .________________________________________________________. | | | wmcqueen@oise.on.ca | | "Life is a seamless robe of learning!" | |________________________________________________________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 5 09:25:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05531; Tue, 5 Sep 95 09:25:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05262; Tue, 5 Sep 95 09:14:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05254; Tue, 5 Sep 95 09:14:36 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA23940 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 12:09:30 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id MAA24217 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 12:09:29 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA02740; Tue, 5 Sep 95 12:08:09 EDT Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 12:08:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: MS-TNEF Attachments Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Anyone, I recently started receiving messages from someone (on another list) that contained MS-TNEF attachements. Pine says it cannot view it and tells me to save the file. I did that, but cannot view the file with Pico or vi, etc. What is the file type, and how do I view it? TIA, Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 5 09:59:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06844; Tue, 5 Sep 95 09:59:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05541; Tue, 5 Sep 95 09:28:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05532; Tue, 5 Sep 95 09:28:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sq0oO-00038CC; Tue, 5 Sep 95 09:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Including mutiple mails during compose... Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 14:45:56 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <41cc0s$53v@alpha.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com> Status: O X-Status: On 22 Aug 1995, Tim Walton wrote: > I've read the help , but i cant see a straightforward way of including several > mail files within a compose session: > By this i mean: how can i include the text of mails i have received , in a message > i am composing , but without using the cut/paste buffer. > Its a common feature in mny other mail tools , but not pine it seems. > Any pointers appreciated, > Regards,Tim. > Assuming you are using 3.91, you can do this with the Aggregate commands. First permit the use of the aggregate commands (go to setup, switch on enable-aggregate-command-set). Then use ; to mark the message you want to include Then use A F (All Forward) to include the messages in forward format or A R (All Reply) to include the messages in reply format (with > before the text). Then cut out the lines you dont want. OK? ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 5 10:20:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07734; Tue, 5 Sep 95 10:20:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21214; Tue, 5 Sep 95 09:43:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21208; Tue, 5 Sep 95 09:43:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sq0wI-00038CC; Tue, 5 Sep 95 09:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Sorting by "arrival" is not intuitive Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 14:51:06 +0100 Message-Id: References: <41b1g0$6o6@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <41b1g0$6o6@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 21 Aug 1995, dawn hewitt wrote: > I work at the UCS Support Center at Indiana University. A user wishes > to sort his messages by "arrival" date/time, and not "date" (i.e., > date/time sent). Pine's online help says that "arrival" sorts by the > date the message arrived in one's mailbox. What that seems to mean is > that it sorts based on the time a message is moved into a specific folder. > > Example: Set sort order to "arrival". Move a rather old message into > a folder which contains newer messages. The old message will appear > at the bottom of the list, as though it arrived recently. In fact, it > *did* arrive recently into that folder. Is it possible to sort based > on the date/time that a message arrived on one's account, regardless > of which folder the message is moved to? > > Are there others out there frustrated (and misled) by this behavior? > > Thanks. > > --dawn > > There is an option in the configuration settings to set "sort by date" which may be more to your taste. ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 5 10:58:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09423; Tue, 5 Sep 95 10:58:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06477; Tue, 5 Sep 95 10:08:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06471; Tue, 5 Sep 95 10:08:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sq1Ta-00038DC; Tue, 5 Sep 95 10:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lars Scheffmann Subject: Re: Pico behaves strangely with Windows 3.11 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 11:22:15 +0200 Message-Id: References: <1995Sep4.153515.6575@news.unige.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1995Sep4.153515.6575@news.unige.ch> Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 4 Sep 1995, Marielle Schneider wrote: > > As I try to compose a message with Pico, I get a hard return for each > space I type in, and "alpha" instead of an accentued e, "beta" for > another accentued character. > I have the same problem with the acting as , in the Subject-field and in the mail text. If you use D to erase a character, then the problem is solved??!! Regards Lars .............................................................................. . Lars Scheffmann | DOU | Mail: scheffmann@dou.dk . . Netadministrator | Niels Bohrs Alle 11 | Phone: +45 66130827 ext.247 . . Postmaster | 5230 Odense M | Direct: +45 65914700 + 247 . . University of Odense | Denmark | Fax: +45 66123366 . .............................................................................. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 5 11:29:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10876; Tue, 5 Sep 95 11:29:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22438; Tue, 5 Sep 95 10:43:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22432; Tue, 5 Sep 95 10:43:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sq21P-00038IC; Tue, 5 Sep 95 10:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Jagdis Subject: Re: Does pine read all the mail into memory? Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 08:09:09 GMT Message-Id: References: <42g7pd$28t@ddi2.digital.net> Status: O X-Status: Howard Goldstein said: > : Alternatively create an empty file "mail.txt" in the user's home > : directory. When Pine finds mail in the INBOX it will move it to this > : mail.txt file which is stored in Tenex format. > >Mike, is this behavior documented anywhere? I _think_ it's in the tech-notes. Mike -- Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Voice: +44 1734 890403 Fax: +44 1734 891192 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 5 15:10:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21885; Tue, 5 Sep 95 15:10:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13669; Tue, 5 Sep 95 14:53:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13663; Tue, 5 Sep 95 14:53:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sq5u4-00038DC; Tue, 5 Sep 95 14:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Subject: [MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR] Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 11:26:02 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I've a rather unique situation I guess. I am using pine to read news on another machine and I am NOT using pine to read mail on my machine... at least, I don't want to. I have my own mail reader which I keep going while using pine (3.91) but this causes PINE to be confused somehow, as I keep getting a message: [MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR] namely, my other mail reader stole the mail away from pine. So how do I use pine just for news and not for mail, or, how can I just workaround this problem? Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma NeXT 3.2 m68k MIME and NeXTMail OK Another convert to the Z-Shell "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." "I see your WinDows(tm) and I want to paint them black...." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 5 15:30:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22983; Tue, 5 Sep 95 15:30:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28253; Tue, 5 Sep 95 15:25:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28247; Tue, 5 Sep 95 15:25:12 -0700 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0sq6TS-000sBqC; Wed, 6 Sep 95 00:28 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Wed, 6 Sep 95 00:25 MESZ Received: from paddington (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paddington (8.7.Beta.11/8.7.Beta.11) with SMTP id AAA00520; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 00:24:53 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Joswig Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 00:24:49 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: "Timothy J. Luoma" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR] In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Timothy, I think you can get around if you change the path to your INBOX (must be in the Config-Screen) to some other existing mailfolder (or create an empty one). Ciao, Michael Joswig On Tue, 5 Sep 1995, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > I've a rather unique situation I guess. I am using pine to read news on > another machine and I am NOT using pine to read mail on my machine... at > least, I don't want to. I have my own mail reader which I keep going > while using pine (3.91) but this causes PINE to be confused somehow, as I > keep getting a message: > > [MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR] > > namely, my other mail reader stole the mail away from pine. > > So how do I use pine just for news and not for mail, or, how can I just > workaround this problem? > > Thanks > > TjL > > > -- > Timothy J. Luoma NeXT 3.2 m68k > MIME and NeXTMail OK Another convert to the Z-Shell > "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." > "I see your WinDows(tm) and I want to paint them black...." > > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 5 15:34:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23136; Tue, 5 Sep 95 15:34:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14631; Tue, 5 Sep 95 15:29:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14625; Tue, 5 Sep 95 15:29:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sq6Nc-00038IC; Tue, 5 Sep 95 15:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: showie@uoguelph.ca (Steve Howie) Subject: Windows PC-PINE Date: 5 Sep 1995 20:52:29 GMT Message-Id: <42idad$lab@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> Status: O X-Status: I'm running PC-Pine for Windows 3.91 (winsock version). Whenever I terminate the application, the program manager is restored. Since I prefer to run with the PM minimized, does anyone know how to have it stay minimized? Is this a PC Pine for Windows problem or a Windows problem? Any ideas appreciated .... I despise Windows but *have* to use it :( Scotty -- ================================================================= Steve Howie Email: showie@uoguelph.ca NetNews and Gopher Admin. Phone: (519) 824-4120 x2556 Computing and Communications Svcs. Fax: (519) 763-6143 University of Guelph If it's not Scottish its CRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP ================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 5 15:38:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23264; Tue, 5 Sep 95 15:38:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28365; Tue, 5 Sep 95 15:29:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28359; Tue, 5 Sep 95 15:29:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sq6Nc-00038HC; Tue, 5 Sep 95 15:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: Pico binarys for SCO anywhere?? Date: 5 Sep 1995 20:45:55 GMT Message-Id: <42icu3$4bc@tristram.edc.org> References: Status: O X-Status: Davy Cheung (davyc@ecs.ie.cuhk.hk) wrote: : On Sat, 2 Sep 1995, Phill Lowe wrote: : > I'd like to run pico on our SCO unix box. We don't have C so I'd have : > to get GCC up first then compile pico. I am trying to find an easier way. : Visit ftp.cac.washington.edu and go into /pine. There are a few : "ready-to-run" pico ports. See if there is one for SCO. I'm fairly sure there aren't. Check out ftp.celestial.com or odi.cwc.whecn.edu instead. I know for a fact there are Pine binaries for SCO there. They were built on 3.2.4.2, and often work just fine on other versions of SCO. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 5 19:00:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00356; Tue, 5 Sep 95 19:00:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02142; Tue, 5 Sep 95 18:54:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02134; Tue, 5 Sep 95 18:54:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sq9dc-00038CC; Tue, 5 Sep 95 18:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rich Ruggiero Subject: Does PCPINE_W work with Netcruiser from Netcom Date: 6 Sep 1995 01:22:47 GMT Message-Id: <42it57$h11@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Does anyone have any tips on operating pcpine within netcruiser. I am not sure whether I have the setup misconfigured or that the blasted program will not work within Netcruiser. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Rich From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 5 21:10:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03249; Tue, 5 Sep 95 21:10:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20783; Tue, 5 Sep 95 21:04:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20777; Tue, 5 Sep 95 21:04:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqBdX-00038CC; Tue, 5 Sep 95 20:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: d.scott@Auckland.ac.nz (David Scott) Subject: combining addressbooks Date: 6 Sep 1995 02:27:39 GMT Message-Id: <42j0ur$bhk@net.auckland.ac.nz> Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to combine two pine addressbooks? I couldn't find any mention of it in the FAQ. Please email---I don't read this newsgroup David Scott -- _________________________________________________________________ David Scott Division of Science and Technology, Tamaki Campus The University of Auckland, PB 92019 Auckland NEW ZEALAND Phone: +64 9 373 7599 ext 6830 Fax: +64 9 373 7001 Email: d.scott@Auckland.ac.nz From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 6 00:52:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08544; Wed, 6 Sep 95 00:52:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06498; Wed, 6 Sep 95 00:44:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06492; Wed, 6 Sep 95 00:44:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqF2T-00038CC; Wed, 6 Sep 95 00:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: foka@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Anthony Fok) Subject: Re: binaires files in pine Date: Sat, 02 Sep 1995 04:36:31 -0600 Message-Id: References: <427pbu$d4a@charles.cdec.polymtl.ca> Status: O X-Status: In article <427pbu$d4a@charles.cdec.polymtl.ca>, perumtl@step.polymtl.ca (Jose Aguilar) wrote: > Hello; > Somebody can tell me how can I send binaires files by pine. > Thanks It is very simple. Just "A"ttach the file to the message. :) (Ctrl-A)?? -- Anthony Fok Tung-Ling foka@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 2nd Year Civil Engineering http://www.ualberta.ca/~foka/ University of Alberta, Canada Keep smiling! *^_^* -- -- Anthony Fok Tung-Ling foka@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca Civil Engineering http://www.ualberta.ca/~foka/ University of Alberta, Canada Keep smiling! *^_^* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 6 00:55:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08675; Wed, 6 Sep 95 00:55:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24022; Wed, 6 Sep 95 00:49:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24016; Wed, 6 Sep 95 00:49:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqFEO-00038DC; Wed, 6 Sep 95 00:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ktsalmi@alpha.hut.fi (Kari Salmi) Subject: multiple users problem in pc-pine?? Date: 6 Sep 1995 07:13:11 GMT Message-Id: <42jhm7$7jn@nntp.hut.fi> Status: O X-Status: I have following problem. I use pc-pine in pc which have several users. When some user sends mail with pc-pine it is copied in folder SENTMAIL.MTX and if one saves read messages (which are in INBOX folder) these messages are copied in folder SAVEMAIL.MTX. The problem is that these two .MTX files are on pc's hard disk and every user can read these two folders. Can one define 'private folders' in pc-pine or is it possible to use unix folders saved-messages and sent-mail (which one can't access unless knowing my login and password to unix system) instead of these two .MTX files. Kari -- * Laboratory of Physical Chemistry and Electrochemistry * * Helsinki University of Technology tel: +358-0-451 2579 * * Kemistintie 1 email: Kari.Salmi@hut.fi * * FIN-02150 Espoo, FINLAND WWW: http://www.hut.fi/~ktsalmi * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 6 00:57:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08755; Wed, 6 Sep 95 00:57:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06559; Wed, 6 Sep 95 00:49:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06553; Wed, 6 Sep 95 00:49:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqFEP-00038HC; Wed, 6 Sep 95 00:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jarlehto@tuug.utu.fi (Jari Lehtonen) Subject: How to force Content-Transfer-Encoding? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 07:16:08 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hello all! I'm looking for a way to force Pine to set Content-Transfer-Encoding to 8bit instead of Quoted-Printable. Is it possible at all? The only answer I've though out is to put line "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit" to my .pinerc in customized-hdrs. Now, is this "the right thing" to do? (Pine is 3.91 on SunOS 4.1.3) Thanks, Jari From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 6 04:15:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15468; Wed, 6 Sep 95 04:15:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26982; Wed, 6 Sep 95 04:05:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26972; Wed, 6 Sep 95 04:05:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqIB2-00038CC; Wed, 6 Sep 95 03:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pjh@mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg) Subject: attached-to-ansi ??? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 09:08:07 GMT Status: O X-Status: What does "attached-to-ansi" mean in reference to printing? Where in the documantation is printing (i.e., hard copy) discussed? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 6 05:11:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16790; Wed, 6 Sep 95 05:11:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27600; Wed, 6 Sep 95 04:57:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tortoise.oise.on.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27594; Wed, 6 Sep 95 04:57:49 -0700 Received: by tortoise.oise.on.ca (5.0/SMI-SVR4 (rsm940906)) id AA22843; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 07:57:49 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 07:57:48 -0400 (EDT) From: William McQueen To: tyoung , Pine-info List Subject: Re: Internet/E-mail correspondence In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 742 Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 5 Sep 1995, In part I wrote: > As a trial you might send commands to one of the main distribution > machines for Listserv at the following address: > > listserv@cunyvm.cuny.edu > > Try these commands: > > get refcard > help > I left out a crucial word in the suggested commands. I should have suggested the command get listserv refcard or info refcard I am sorry for any confusion I may have caused. Bill McQueen in Toronto .________________________________________________________. | | | wmcqueen@oise.on.ca | | "Life is a seamless robe of learning!" | |________________________________________________________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 6 05:13:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16843; Wed, 6 Sep 95 05:13:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09658; Wed, 6 Sep 95 05:00:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09652; Wed, 6 Sep 95 05:00:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqJ7B-00038CC; Wed, 6 Sep 95 04:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mcm7738@is2.nyu.edu (Michael C. Montero) Subject: What is imapd incl. w/ Pine 3.91? Date: 6 Sep 1995 04:33:30 GMT Message-Id: <42j8aq$oqi@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> Status: O X-Status: I just upgraded my PINE version to 3.91. I ftped all of the binaries from uwash and included was some imapd binary. Can someone help me determine what that binary is for? I do not have a version of it currently on my Linux system. If I do, I was unable to locate it. Thanks, Mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 6 07:27:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19524; Wed, 6 Sep 95 07:27:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29127; Wed, 6 Sep 95 06:56:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29121; Wed, 6 Sep 95 06:56:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqKtl-00038CC; Wed, 6 Sep 95 06:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: s11976@net2.hkbu.edu.hk (Wong Pui Ming) Subject: How to handle MIME file received Date: 6 Sep 1995 12:26:15 GMT Message-Id: <42k417$lk9@ctsc.hkbc.hk> Status: O X-Status: When someone sent me an attached file (MIME), i can be able to use the command v to decode/save it. However, when someone forward a MIME file (received by him using a MIME unaware mail interface) to me, the following is what i see under pine . How can i decode/extract it back to its original binary format ================================================= To: s11976@net2.hkbu.edu.hk Subject: test sending mime 1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1920136985-1162490389-810265961=:7972" X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1920136985-1162490389-810265961=:7972 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi this is the message main bye --1920136985-1162490389-810265961=:7972 Content-Type: APPLICATION/octet-stream; name="mmm.doc" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: /1dQQ24FAAABCgABAAAAAPv/BQAyAAcCAAD//w4AAABCAAAABgAQAAAAUAAA AAwAWgAAAKYAAAADAAcBAAAAAQAAQ291cmllciAxMGNwaQAAI3wAeAAAAAEA AAAAAAAAAQAAAAClLPQBeAD+FTYQWAcAAAAEEUDJAJM4URADAFgCQP7+/v7+ /v7///////////7///////////////////////7//0hQIExhc2VySmV0KwAA -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 6 07:44:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19966; Wed, 6 Sep 95 07:44:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11305; Wed, 6 Sep 95 07:28:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dmog10.bell.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11299; Wed, 6 Sep 95 07:28:36 -0700 Received: from dmoc61.on.bell.ca by dmog10.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA24679; Wed, 6 Sep 95 10:28:32 -0400 Received: from huhc53.ON.Bell.Ca by dmoc61.on.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA20474; Wed, 6 Sep 95 10:28:31 -0400 Received: from huhc06 by huhc53 with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20284; Wed, 6 Sep 95 10:28:27 -0400 Received: by huhc06 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12277; Wed, 6 Sep 95 10:28:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:28:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Violette" X-Sender: jviolett@huhc06 To: Jonathan and DearOldDad Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help Wanted: sigs In-Reply-To: <4265ou$qm7@grape.epix.net> Message-Id: Organization: Bell Canada Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 1 Sep 1995, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: > Paul Cowan (minotaur@union4.su.swin.edu.au) wrote: > : Just a quick question, which has probably been asked a million times > : before, but here goes: > : Does anyone know of an easy way to randomize the .signature used for each > : message in UNIX Pine 3.91? > : Paul Cowan minotaur@union4.swin.edu.au > > Nope ... cannot be done ... but here's a workaround ... make filenames > sig1 sig2 sig3 sigpaul sigsex sigmino ... whatever ... then ^R it in > after yer' message ... G'Day ... here comes filename ds3 (that's Dad's > 3-line signature) ... Tallyho ! > Create a shellscript that is run by cron every minute or hour or whatever that copies a random file (.signature.x) to .signature where x is a ramdom number from 0 to 9. You can use the $RANDOM shell variable to get a pseudo-random number. Just use the last digit of this variable to select you file. I don't have an example handy but I once did this with .gif files to get a random backdrop. -- -- | John R. Violette | Software Development | | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | | Operations Support | E-Mail: jviolett@on.bell.ca | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 6 08:04:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20668; Wed, 6 Sep 95 08:04:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11610; Wed, 6 Sep 95 07:50:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from post.larc.nasa.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11604; Wed, 6 Sep 95 07:50:15 -0700 Received: from express.larc.nasa.gov (express.larc.nasa.gov [128.155.4.44]) by post.larc.nasa.gov (8.6.12/pohub3.3) with ESMTP id KAA14825 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:50:13 -0400 Received: (from z1802ag@localhost) by express.larc.nasa.gov (8.6.12/posvr3.3) id KAA00914; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:50:12 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:50:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christian M. Fernholz" X-Sender: c.m.fernholz@express.larc.nasa.gov To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine Distribution Lists Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to forward one of my Pine distribution lists from my address book to another user such that this user will then be able to use the distribution list himself? I am running Pine 3.91 in a Unix environment. Thanks in advance. ********************************************************************** Christian M. Fernholz 804 864 8221 The George Washington University, Mail Stop 463 The National Aeronautics & Space Administration, Langley Research Center ********************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 6 09:14:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24414; Wed, 6 Sep 95 09:14:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02086; Wed, 6 Sep 95 09:04:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhub.acsu.buffalo.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02075; Wed, 6 Sep 95 09:04:24 -0700 Received: from alcott.acsu.buffalo.edu (br@alcott.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.15.17]) by mailhub (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id MAA10955; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 12:04:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 12:04:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Pulp-Fiction To: Errol Porter Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to Filter Out Unwanted Mail In-Reply-To: <42fgup$4m@ionews.io.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: yes through a utility in unix, which filters mail. In solaris 2.3, it is called procmail. to activate it, you need to create 2 files. .forward (dot forward) and .procmailrc in dot forward you type "|IFS=' ' && exec /util/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 # username", where username is your username. You use the quotes. In the dot procmailrc, you create folders that store the various mail. For example if you want all the emails that come to you from pine-info@cac.washington.edu, to be stored in a different mail folder within pine, called for example 'Pine', and not 'INBOX', you may create the following in your dot procmailrc MAILDIR=$HOME/mail SHELL=/bin/sh PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/log MY_NAME="Jaz" MY_ADDR="" :0: * ^From .*PINE PINE If you dont want "Junk" mail, I suggest you creat a Junk folder, within pine if u like, then all those mail will be placed in junk, which u can delete 'en-block', or read a few. Love, Peace & Respect Jaz ........ On 4 Sep 1995, Errol Porter wrote: > Is there a way to block or eliminate unwanted mail from a specific source? > > Any suggestions would be appreciated as I am being bombarded by mail from someone advertising a product who somehow got my email address and won't stop sending his rubbish. Thanks. > -- > Errol Porter > Horizon Books errol@io.org (416) 226-4282 | Travel & Exploration > http://www.io.org/~errol/ | Natural History > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 6 10:01:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26818; Wed, 6 Sep 95 10:01:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13963; Wed, 6 Sep 95 09:40:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhub.acsu.buffalo.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13957; Wed, 6 Sep 95 09:40:33 -0700 Received: from alcott.acsu.buffalo.edu (br@alcott.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.15.17]) by mailhub (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id MAA15187; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 12:40:25 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 12:39:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Pulp-Fiction To: Errol Porter , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to Filter Out Unwanted Mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: hi errol, you do the same, but put the site name or person name, in the from column, for example u may want to do something like :0: * ^From.*berg from_me :0 * ^Subject:.*dumbass /dev/null where dumbass is the mail u keep getting. It is automatically put in the bin, and is deleted If you dont want "Junk" mail, I suggest you creat a Junk folder, within pine if u like, then all those mail will be placed in junk, which u can delete 'en-block', or read a few. > > Love, Peace & Respect Jaz ........ > > On 4 Sep 1995, Errol Porter wrote: > > > Is there a way to block or eliminate unwanted mail from a specific source? > > > > Any suggestions would be appreciated as I am being bombarded by mail from someone advertising a product who someh$ > > -- > > Errol Porter > > Horizon Books errol@io.org (416) 226-4282 | Travel & Exploration > > http://www.io.org/~errol/ | Natural History > > > Love, Peace & Respect Jaz ........ On Wed, 6 Sep 1995, Pulp-Fiction wrote: > yes through a utility in unix, which filters mail. In solaris 2.3, it is > called procmail. > to activate it, you need to create 2 files. > .forward (dot forward) and > .procmailrc > in dot forward you type > "|IFS=' ' && exec /util/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 # username", where > username is your username. You use the quotes. > In the dot procmailrc, you create folders that store the various mail. > For example if you want all the emails that come to you from > pine-info@cac.washington.edu, to be stored in a different mail folder > within pine, called for example 'Pine', and not 'INBOX', you may create > the following in your dot procmailrc > MAILDIR=$HOME/mail > SHELL=/bin/sh > PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin > LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/log > MY_NAME="Jaz" > MY_ADDR="" > :0: > * ^From .*PINE > PINE > Love, Peace & Respect Jaz ........ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 6 10:06:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27183; Wed, 6 Sep 95 10:06:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03178; Wed, 6 Sep 95 09:50:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03172; Wed, 6 Sep 95 09:50:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqNco-00038CC; Wed, 6 Sep 95 09:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maor@celsiustech.se Subject: Re: What is imapd incl. w/ Pine 3.91? Date: 06 Sep 1995 15:56:05 MET Message-Id: <42k971$s9@world.celsiustech.se> References: <42j8aq$oqi@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: mcm7738@is2.nyu.edu (Michael C. Montero) wrote: > I just upgraded my PINE version to 3.91. I ftped all of the binaries > from uwash and included was some imapd binary. Can someone help me > determine what that binary is for? I do not have a version of > it currently on my Linux system. If I do, I was unable to locate it. > If you run imapd on a server, it enables fx. pine to retrieve your mail on that server, from another machine, using the imap-protocol. We run such a server and the people here can read their mailbox, regardless of what machine they are working on, just for the moment (we have suns, rs'es, vax'es, and you reach the same mailbox from them all). /Mats From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 6 10:47:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29072; Wed, 6 Sep 95 10:47:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15299; Wed, 6 Sep 95 10:40:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15293; Wed, 6 Sep 95 10:40:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqOKG-00038CC; Wed, 6 Sep 95 10:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Cindy L. Jones" Subject: Re: HELP: Vacation EMAIL?? Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 11:33:07 -0500 Message-Id: References: <425t08$pg8@lizzy.mcs.csuhayward.edu> <427ap7$hro@orion.tower.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <427ap7$hro@orion.tower.com.au> Status: O X-Status: > >I would like to know how to set up pine to send out > >vacation email automatically when you receive an email. > > There is a piece of software called "vacation" (funnily enough) that > comes with most distributions of Unix. > > I haven't a clue how to use it, as I've only just heard of it myself. Try this: At the Unix prompt, simply type the word vacation and enter. If your Unix supports that program, it will walk you through it, asking if you want to view the message, edit it, or enable it. clj %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Cindy L. Jones | BSW Student, University of | social@comp.uark.edu | Arkansas, Fayetteville | Owner/Manger of SOCWORK cljones@comp.uark.edu | BSW Rep -- NASW Board of | and ARSCWK-L | Directors, Arkansas Chapter | My Internet activities are my own. The University of Arkansas Social Work Program is not responsibile for the management or administration of SOCWORK or ARSCWK-L. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 6 11:31:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01609; Wed, 6 Sep 95 11:31:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16233; Wed, 6 Sep 95 11:25:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16227; Wed, 6 Sep 95 11:25:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqP5y-00038DC; Wed, 6 Sep 95 11:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Cindy L. Jones" Subject: Re: Is it possible to set an auto-reply? Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 11:38:01 -0500 Message-Id: References: <42fb41$582@mrnews.mro.dec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <42fb41$582@mrnews.mro.dec.com> Status: O X-Status: On 4 Sep 1995, Yossi Glass wrote: > Is it possible to set in pine an auto reply message (one that is sent > automatically as a reply to any new message). You can set the .vacation feature if you're running on Unix. I often do this when I'm facing a deadline and not tending to my e-mail for a day or so. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Cindy L. Jones | BSW Student, University of | social@comp.uark.edu | Arkansas, Fayetteville | Owner/Manger of SOCWORK cljones@comp.uark.edu | BSW Rep -- NASW Board of | and ARSCWK-L | Directors, Arkansas Chapter | My Internet activities are my own. The University of Arkansas Social Work Program is not responsibile for the management or administration of SOCWORK or ARSCWK-L. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 6 11:33:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01712; Wed, 6 Sep 95 11:33:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05465; Wed, 6 Sep 95 11:25:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05459; Wed, 6 Sep 95 11:25:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqP5N-00038CC; Wed, 6 Sep 95 11:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Cindy L. Jones" Subject: Re: Usenet Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 11:36:17 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 3 Sep 1995, Jibby wrote: > Please Help > I was wondering if there is a way to get rid of all the messages > in a usenet news group. For example, I joined the Phish news group and > it has over a 1000 messages. I can't read all those, I want to start > with todays messages and go from there...how do I do that? Rather than > going through and deleteing every message until I am current. I am using > PINE 3.91. > Any Help is greatly loved...Thanks in advance. Try using the aggregate commands ... That's what I do when I subscribe to a new Usenet group. When you are in the group, enter ';a' (wihtout the quotes of course). That will choose all the messages. Then enter 'ad' to delete them all. The next time you come to the newsgroup, those messages won't show up for you. If you have problems with the aggregate command, check your set-up to make you that aggregate commands are enabled. If this doesn't work, drop me a note ... clj %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Cindy L. Jones | BSW Student, University of | social@comp.uark.edu | Arkansas, Fayetteville | Owner/Manger of SOCWORK cljones@comp.uark.edu | BSW Rep -- NASW Board of | and ARSCWK-L | Directors, Arkansas Chapter | My Internet activities are my own. The University of Arkansas Social Work Program is not responsibile for the management or administration of SOCWORK or ARSCWK-L. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 6 14:51:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10479; Wed, 6 Sep 95 14:51:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10450; Wed, 6 Sep 95 14:46:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10444; Wed, 6 Sep 95 14:46:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqSI1-00038CC; Wed, 6 Sep 95 14:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Subject: Re: [MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR] Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 12:46:53 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 5 Sep 1995, Michael Joswig wrote: > Timothy, > > I think you can get around if you change the path to your INBOX (must be in the > Config-Screen) to some other existing mailfolder (or create an empty one). > geez, yeah that wasn't too obvious.... I think I've been sitting in front of the monitor for too long. Thanks for the pointer. My inbox is now /dev/null and it works just fine. TjL --- Timothy J. Luoma NeXT 3.2 m68k MIME and NeXTMail OK Another convert to the Z-Shell "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." "I see your WinDows(tm) and I want to paint them black...." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 6 15:21:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12335; Wed, 6 Sep 95 15:21:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21481; Wed, 6 Sep 95 15:16:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21475; Wed, 6 Sep 95 15:16:44 -0700 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA19821; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 15:16:31 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 15:16:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" To: Pine Mailing List Subject: pegasus users? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Can someone who knows their way around Pegasus Mail drop be a line at the address below? I am trying to help someone, and, of course, use pine. Our news server does not get any of the other comp.mail groups, so I'm posting this a quickie here, and asking for Email replies. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/---------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 6 15:36:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13239; Wed, 6 Sep 95 15:36:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21794; Wed, 6 Sep 95 15:31:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21788; Wed, 6 Sep 95 15:31:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqSrL-00038DC; Wed, 6 Sep 95 15:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mlieberg@vespucci.iquest.com (Marlaina Lieberg) Subject: Pine & Usenet Mail, etc. Date: 29 Aug 1995 01:09:03 -0500 Message-Id: <41uatv$3mt@vespucci.iquest.com> Status: O X-Status: I'd like to know if Pine can be used to read Usenet newsgroups and if so, how do I configure it? Also, I am a blind user, using a text-to-speech conversion package. Pine seems to haul the system cursor around the screen after each Pine command. This causes my screen access software to read the screen to me over and over. Is there a way to configure Pine so that it is more interactive with the system cursor as it really exists? For instance, if I am in the index feature, and I D msg 4, I will hear that I have deleted msg 4 before I her that I am on msg 5. If I am quoting a msg in a reply, I will hear, as I type my new reply, the quoted parts over and over. If I cursor down through the screen to edit, I will have to hit my next line then my key whhich reads my current line because the Pine cursor and the system cursor seem to meld at this point and my speech *thinks* we are on the previous line. It has been explained to me by my sys op that Pine grabs the keyboard and treats the machine of the user like a dumb terminal. My terminal has to stay smart@!! got any ideas? Thanks!! Touch And Know! If you can mail it, we can Braille it! Converting print-to-Braille, that all may Touch and Know! E-Mail mlieberg@iquest.com. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 6 16:07:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15335; Wed, 6 Sep 95 16:07:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12426; Wed, 6 Sep 95 16:02:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12420; Wed, 6 Sep 95 16:02:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqTRn-00038CC; Wed, 6 Sep 95 15:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: meeth@caffeine.cen.uiuc.edu (Scott Meeth) Subject: imapd pre-authentication Date: 6 Sep 1995 22:14:06 GMT Message-Id: <42l6fe$7st@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Status: O X-Status: I can't make any sense of the documentation on this issue. They mention using rsh to do it. I have users NFS mounting their mail spool file. Can they just put some file in their home directory that gives authentication? Scott Meeth From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 6 23:02:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27385; Wed, 6 Sep 95 23:02:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28442; Wed, 6 Sep 95 22:57:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28436; Wed, 6 Sep 95 22:57:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqZtu-00038DC; Wed, 6 Sep 95 22:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sfoy@srtb0511a12.resnet.ubc.ca (Shaun Patrick Foy) Subject: sh:Bus error Date: 7 Sep 1995 04:49:18 GMT Message-Id: <42ltke$e4g@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Status: O X-Status: Hi all, I am trying to terminate a pine mailing list of about 400 people. However, every time I try to mail my 'last' mailing to tell people we are switching to majordomo, I get this bus error and none of the mail gets sent out. Does anyone perhaps know why i get this error and how to eliminate it?? Thanks in advance, Shaun. -- \ o / o __| \ / |__ o \ o / | -/\ ___\o \ o | o / o/___ /\- | / \ | \ /) | ( \ /o\ / ) | (\ / | / \ sfoy@bcu.ubc.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 7 00:49:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29610; Thu, 7 Sep 95 00:49:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21026; Thu, 7 Sep 95 00:42:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from windrush.tvu.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21020; Thu, 7 Sep 95 00:42:03 -0700 Received: from shost-188.tvu.ac.uk by windrush.tvu.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 7 Sep 1995 08:45:53 +0100 From: thames valley uni To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 09:19:09 -0400 (EDT) Priority: NORMAL X-Mailer: Simeon for Windows X-Authentication: IMSP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Can anyone tell me how I can post and join newsgroups. Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 7 01:30:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01045; Thu, 7 Sep 95 01:30:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29900; Thu, 7 Sep 95 01:02:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29894; Thu, 7 Sep 95 01:02:34 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 7 Sep 1995 09:01:03 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA26598; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 09:01:54 +0100 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 09:01:54 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Shaun Patrick Foy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: sh:Bus error In-Reply-To: <42ltke$e4g@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: It sounds very likely that your problem lies not with Pine, but with an old version of the system "sendmail" program (Pine composes the message then hands it to sendmail for transmission/delivery). The problem came about when a security hole was discovered in sendmail; there have been a number of them over the years. A new version of sendmail (8.6.11) was released which fixed the security hole, and most sites put this up (after all, a security hole is a security hole!). However there was a but in this new version of sendmail that caused it to crash and core dump when sending a message to more than a small (I think about 20) number of recipients. This was fixed in another new version (8.6.12) and works OK. Unfortunately quite a number of sites don't seem to have heard about this version, or at least they haven't bothered to put it up (after all security isn't an issue ;-). So the solution is to ask your System Manager to check which version of sendmail is installed on your machines and upgrade (if this is indeed the problem) to 8.6.12. As a footnote... we had some problems here persuading Silicon Graphics that 8.6.12 was needed. They claimed the problem lay in Pine! Anyway, after flooding them with copies of messages about the matter received from the Net we convinced them, and they duly made 8.6.12 available for IRIX. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 7 Sep 1995, Shaun Patrick Foy wrote: > Hi all, > > I am trying to terminate a pine mailing list of about 400 people. > However, every time I try to mail my 'last' mailing to tell > people we are switching to majordomo, I get this bus error and > none of the mail gets sent out. Does anyone perhaps know why i > get this error and how to eliminate it?? > > Thanks in advance, > > Shaun. > -- > \ o / o __| \ / |__ o \ o / > | -/\ ___\o \ o | o / o/___ /\- | > / \ | \ /) | ( \ /o\ / ) | (\ / | / \ > > sfoy@bcu.ubc.ca > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 7 01:50:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01468; Thu, 7 Sep 95 01:50:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00402; Thu, 7 Sep 95 01:34:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00396; Thu, 7 Sep 95 01:34:47 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 7 Sep 1995 09:33:49 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA28321; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 09:34:38 +0100 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 09:34:37 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Scott Meeth Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: imapd pre-authentication In-Reply-To: <42l6fe$7st@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: First some terminology so we're talking the same language :-) I tend to refer to the file new mail get delivered into as the "delivery file"; this typically is called something like /var/mail/username. Also the directory in which this file lives (/var/mail in the above example) as the "delivery area". For most people's setups Pine presents the contents of the delivery file as the INBOX folder. However in some special cases (if you are using the mbox or Tenex drivers within Pine to keep the INBOX in a file called "mbox" or "mail.txt" respectively in the user's home directory) messages are moved out of the delivery file into the mbox (mail.txt) file, and this is then presented as the INBOX folder. OK, having now no doubt got you confused.... :-} If you are accessing the delivery file over NFS then "authentication" doesn't enter the situation at all. At least, not beyond that you have already done by logging in to UNIX. In this setup it is UNIX's file access mechanisms that determine whether or not you can read/write the delivery file. So if you are using NFS for delivery file access then don't worry about authentication within Pine: you don't need it. Instead just make sure that Pine was compiled properly so that it knows where your delivery area is. It will append the username to create the delivery file name and access it directly. Unfortunately accessing the delivery file over NFS has assorted problems and is not recommended. These difficulties lie in limitations in the file locking mechanism as implemented over NFS. Specifically some systems do not implement it at all, whilst others attempt to but can fail to work properly when subject to high locking activity. The recommended route is to use an IMAP server.... The source code for an IMAP server is included within the Pine distribution. Ths server is run on the same machine that physically hosts the mailstore disk, and mail reading clients then link to the IMAP server and request it to return or manipulate messages. This has the advantage that the IMAP server can use file locking successfully (as the disk is local to the machine). It also means that mail clients for micros (eg, ECSmail/Simeon for PCs, Mailstrom or Mulberry for Macs) can access the same mailstore. Unlike the vaguely similar POP protocol IMAP manipulates the messages in place on the server computer; POP downloads the messages to the micro's hard disk. This means that IMAP is much better in distributed environments, where mail may be read from many different computers including classroom machines. To tell Pine to use IMAP to access the INBOX folder you must set the "inbox-path" configuration variable (typically in the system wide Pine configuration file) to something like this: '{imap.host.domain}inbox' Doing this tells Pine not to use read/write calls to access the file directly over NFS, but to open a connection to the IMAP server computer ("imap.host.domain") and obtain the INBOX folder. Obviously the IMAP server needs ot be sure that the person connecting is allowed to see the mail stored in a particular folder, and so needs some form of authentication whereby it can be sure of the username told it. One way is, naturally, to ask the user of the mail reader to enter their username and password for the IMAP server computer. If the IMAP server validates these it then allows access. However this makes mail reading a bit of a pain as the username and password have to be entered every time the mail reader (Pine) is started up. So a short-cut mechanism can be set up... On the IMAP server computer a symbolic link should be made from "/etc/rimapd" to point to the real IMAP server software (typically somewhere like "/usr/local/lib/imapd"). When Pine starts up it first tries to issue an "rsh imap.host.domain /etc/rimapd" command to open the connection to the IMAP server. This uses the UNIX "rsh" mechanism to link to the server machine and tries to run the "/etc/rimapd" program. If all is well the software (IMAP server) runs and, because it was invoked through the rsh mechanism, can determine and trust the username of the person at the far end. The IMAP session springs into life without any need for the user to type in a username and password as Pine starts up. If the rsh command fails Pine fails back to prompting the user to enter their username and password in order to start the session. If you use the (recommended) IMAP access method for reaching your mail folders then it is definitely worth looking at setting up the rsh mechanism. To do this you will need to set up the symbolic link mentioned above AND ALSO allow your users to rsh to the IMAP server computer without having to quote a password. This typically involves setting up either a "hosts.equiv" file on the IMAP server computer, or a ".rhosts" file in the home directory of each and every user (we went for the former approach). Check the manual pages about "rsh" and "rshd" for information about this. If you decide not to use the rsh mechanism but still want to use IMAP for mail access (thereby forcing your users to enter their username and password every time they start Pine) you should bypass the rsh attempt so that they don't get delayed for long periods whilst the attempt is made and fails. You can do this by adding the particulat port your IMAP server runs on (usually 143) to the IMAP path specification for the inbox-path. Thus "{imap.host.domain}inbox" would instead be set as "{imap.host.domain:143}inbox". I hope all this helps. (I don't *think* I've got it all right!) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 6 Sep 1995, Scott Meeth wrote: > > I can't make any sense of the documentation on this issue. > They mention using rsh to do it. > I have users NFS mounting their mail spool file. Can they just > put some file in their home directory that gives authentication? > > Scott Meeth > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 7 09:15:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13688; Thu, 7 Sep 95 09:15:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28533; Thu, 7 Sep 95 08:58:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28527; Thu, 7 Sep 95 08:58:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqjEq-00038HC; Thu, 7 Sep 95 08:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: graham@arl.mil (Graham Bouton) Subject: Deleting multiple messages? Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-Id: <1995Sep7.152308.921@arl.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 15:23:08 GMT Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to delete a range of messages, like 1-500, without having to hit 'd' for every message? I'm using 3.91 with SGI's IRIX 5.3. Thanks, Graham Bouton From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 7 09:21:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13996; Thu, 7 Sep 95 09:21:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06375; Thu, 7 Sep 95 09:08:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06369; Thu, 7 Sep 95 09:08:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqjPm-00038CC; Thu, 7 Sep 95 09:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "FAISAL NASSER H.S. AL-ROOMI" Subject: Pine Help?? Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 12:41:09 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi Is it possible to have an special interface like Unix Shell for Pine or all other Internet tools to have them in a menu driven for novice users?????? If The answer yes how ?? If the snswer not Whay ?? Please helppppppppp?? very Soonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn?? Thanks Faisal From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 7 09:41:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14781; Thu, 7 Sep 95 09:41:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29608; Thu, 7 Sep 95 09:33:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29602; Thu, 7 Sep 95 09:33:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqjnA-00038CC; Thu, 7 Sep 95 09:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Wenzel Subject: Rename the INBOX Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 10:12:21 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi all! I have a little problem: I want to give the INBOX another name (i. e. 'NEW' or an german expression), but (R)ename doesn't work. Could anyone help me? (Please send the answere or a copy of it per mail - THX) -- ...uuuuund tschuess! * WINDOWS 95: Gesehen - gelacht - F8 * +-----------------------+-------------+-----------------------------------+ | Ralf Wenzel | ? | n06600@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de | | Kavallerieweg 18 | \|/ + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | 33104 Paderborn (GER) | @ @ | PHONE: 0049 - 5254 - 87293 | +-----------------------+-oOO-(_)-OOo-+-----------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 7 09:56:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15239; Thu, 7 Sep 95 09:56:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29900; Thu, 7 Sep 95 09:43:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from goggins.bath.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29894; Thu, 7 Sep 95 09:43:44 -0700 Received: from bath.ac.uk (actually host mary.bath.ac.uk) by goggins.bath.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:43:05 +0100 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:41:44 +0100 (BST) From: mickey To: Graham Bouton Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Deleting multiple messages? In-Reply-To: <1995Sep7.152308.921@arl.mil> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Yes, there is! Once you're in the right folder, hit ; (select) then A (all) then A (apply) then D (delete). This will mark all the messages in that folder for deletion. Alternatively if you want to select a range, e.g. 1-500, type in 1-500 after you've hit ;. Whether you can use the above commands is determined by the "feature-list" options in your Pine configuration. Best wishes, Mickey. ********************* The mark of a moderate man is freedom from his own ideas. (Tao Te Ching) ********************* On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Graham Bouton wrote: > Is there a way to delete a range of messages, like 1-500, without having to > hit 'd' for every message? I'm using 3.91 with SGI's IRIX 5.3. > > Thanks, > Graham Bouton > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 7 10:00:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15530; Thu, 7 Sep 95 10:00:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07380; Thu, 7 Sep 95 09:50:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07374; Thu, 7 Sep 95 09:50:12 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:48:48 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id RAA01938; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:49:26 +0100 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:49:26 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Graham Bouton Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Deleting multiple messages? In-Reply-To: <1995Sep7.152308.921@arl.mil> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Assuming you're using Pine 3.91... Go into the Setup Configuration screen (S then C from the Main Menu) and make sure that "enable-aggregate-cmd-set" is turned on. Now go to the index and give the Select command by typing ";" This allows you to select messages using a variety of criteria. (Additional Select commands can Broaden (or) or Narrow (and) criteria.) Now Apply a command by typing "A", followed by the command you want to apply (in this case "D" for delete). [I wish I had a pound for every time this has been asked and answered here!] Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Graham Bouton wrote: > Is there a way to delete a range of messages, like 1-500, without having to > hit 'd' for every message? I'm using 3.91 with SGI's IRIX 5.3. > > Thanks, > Graham Bouton > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 7 10:06:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15969; Thu, 7 Sep 95 10:06:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07524; Thu, 7 Sep 95 09:56:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhub.acsu.buffalo.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07518; Thu, 7 Sep 95 09:56:26 -0700 Received: from autarch.acsu.buffalo.edu (br@autarch.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.7.24]) by mailhub (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id MAA11909 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 12:56:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 12:56:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Pulp-Fiction To: info pine Subject: Renaming INBOX Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Can u rename the INBOX folder, since i have tried, and was unable to get rid of INBOX. Also can u tag multiple emails as junked, instead of using say ,a and del cmd. Love, Peace & Respect Jaz ........ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 7 10:57:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18361; Thu, 7 Sep 95 10:57:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01631; Thu, 7 Sep 95 10:48:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01625; Thu, 7 Sep 95 10:48:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sql2v-00038DC; Thu, 7 Sep 95 10:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hanus Adler Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 17:20:08 +0000 Subject: pc-pine over a slip connection Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: I am trying to get pine working from home. I am using cslipper.exe and it's okay for everything (CUTCP Telnet, Minuet etc.) but when I try to run pine, it just blanks the screen and then does not say anything for a very long time and I have to reboot. It doesn't freeze the computer, however - I can pop up my TSR alarm over it...=20 Can anyone help? Hanu=B9 Adler -- e-mail:=09had@radio.cz www:=09http://www.ff.cuni.cz/~had/had.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 7 10:57:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18378; Thu, 7 Sep 95 10:57:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08705; Thu, 7 Sep 95 10:48:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08699; Thu, 7 Sep 95 10:48:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sql2u-00038CC; Thu, 7 Sep 95 10:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hanus Adler Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 17:06:25 +0000 Subject: key assignments in pico Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: This is probably something for the developers.=20 I would like to have the possibility to re-define the key assignments in pico, so that I could use ^y to delete lines instead of ^k. So far, I tend to use the alternate editor (joe) for longer texts, because pico just drives me crazy whenever I try to delete a line.=20 Hanu=B9 Adler -- e-mail:=09had@radio.cz www:=09http://www.ff.cuni.cz/~had/had.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 7 11:12:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19020; Thu, 7 Sep 95 11:12:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09047; Thu, 7 Sep 95 11:03:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09041; Thu, 7 Sep 95 11:03:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqlFF-00038CC; Thu, 7 Sep 95 11:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: showie@uoguelph.ca (Steve Howie) Subject: Re: Deleting multiple messages? Date: 7 Sep 1995 17:31:01 GMT Message-Id: <42na8l$kie@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <1995Sep7.152308.921@arl.mil> <42n9g4$k2k@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> Status: O X-Status: Steve Howie (showie@uoguelph.ca) wrote: : Graham Bouton (graham@arl.mil) wrote: : : Is there a way to delete a range of messages, like 1-500, without having to : : hit 'd' for every message? I'm using 3.91 with SGI's IRIX 5.3. : : : : Type "O" To invoke Other Commands : ";" To invoke the Select command Actuall, you don't even need to go to other commands. ";" is available regardless. Sorry : "n" To specify Selection by message numbers : Type the range of messages e.g. 1-345 (Pressing "?" gives more details) : -- Scotty -- ================================================================= Steve Howie Email: showie@uoguelph.ca NetNews and Gopher Admin. Phone: (519) 824-4120 x2556 Computing and Communications Svcs. Fax: (519) 763-6143 University of Guelph If it's not Scottish its CRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP ================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 7 11:32:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19915; Thu, 7 Sep 95 11:32:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02510; Thu, 7 Sep 95 11:28:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02502; Thu, 7 Sep 95 11:28:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqlWz-00038CC; Thu, 7 Sep 95 11:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "FAISAL NASSER H.S. AL-ROOMI" Subject: Pine sharing system Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:50:19 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi Can any one answer the following: Is Pine specify these requirements: 1. Need for system manager? 2. Need for sharing subprojects? 3. Need for cooperative document update/exchange? Is it possible? How??????? Thank you in advance Faisal From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 7 11:33:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20029; Thu, 7 Sep 95 11:33:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09584; Thu, 7 Sep 95 11:28:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09578; Thu, 7 Sep 95 11:28:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqlX0-00038DC; Thu, 7 Sep 95 11:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ken Shaffer Subject: Multiple pine sessions and readonly INBOX Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 12:33:25 GMT Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O X-Status: I typically move around from a lab to my office and use pine in both places to access my mail. I start pine in the lab, go to my office during lunch, and start pine there. When I access INBOX from the office pine session, the lab pine session gets its INBOX set to readonly. Fine. Now, I go back to the lab and want this pine session to take control but it's INBOX is set to readonly. The only way I've found around it, is to quit and restart pine. Is there a way within the current session to take control of the INBOX, i.e., set the other pine session to readonly? -- Ken Shaffer (kshaffer@encore.com) Encore Computer Corporation (305) 587-2900, ext. 5053 FAX: (305) 797-5807 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 7 14:24:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27829; Thu, 7 Sep 95 14:24:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06664; Thu, 7 Sep 95 14:18:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06658; Thu, 7 Sep 95 14:18:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqoEl-00038CC; Thu, 7 Sep 95 14:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: showie@uoguelph.ca (Steve Howie) Subject: Re: Deleting multiple messages? Date: 7 Sep 1995 17:17:56 GMT Message-Id: <42n9g4$k2k@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <1995Sep7.152308.921@arl.mil> Status: O X-Status: Graham Bouton (graham@arl.mil) wrote: : Is there a way to delete a range of messages, like 1-500, without having to : hit 'd' for every message? I'm using 3.91 with SGI's IRIX 5.3. : Type "O" To invoke Other Commands ";" To invoke the Select command "n" To specify Selection by message numbers Type the range of messages e.g. 1-345 (Pressing "?" gives more details) This will mark all messages you want to delete. There will either be an "X" beside each selected message, or it will be in bold type, depending on your config options. Next, type "A" for Apply type "d" to delete This will mark the selected range as deleted. You can then expunge them, or do with them what you wish. This is a REALLY nice feature of 3.91 Scotty -- ================================================================= Steve Howie Email: showie@uoguelph.ca NetNews and Gopher Admin. Phone: (519) 824-4120 x2556 Computing and Communications Svcs. Fax: (519) 763-6143 University of Guelph If it's not Scottish its CRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP ================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 7 14:26:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27932; Thu, 7 Sep 95 14:26:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06748; Thu, 7 Sep 95 14:21:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhub.acsu.buffalo.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06742; Thu, 7 Sep 95 14:21:55 -0700 Received: from conciliator.acsu.buffalo.edu (br@conciliator.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.7.20]) by mailhub (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id RAA07309 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:21:54 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 17:21:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Pulp-Fiction To: info pine Subject: log file Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: does anyone know how to set up the log file in procmail, such that it deletes all the previous days enteries. That way it does not get longer and longer. Also does anyone know how to append the pine 'distribution list' in procmail, so that all that mail, from different sites can go say into your personal folder within pine thanks in advance Love, Peace & Respect Jaz ........ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 7 16:59:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05344; Thu, 7 Sep 95 16:59:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16384; Thu, 7 Sep 95 16:53:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16378; Thu, 7 Sep 95 16:53:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqqeW-00038CC; Thu, 7 Sep 95 16:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mary Ann Bynum Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi ??? Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 16:59:26 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 6 Sep 1995, Pete Holsberg wrote: > What does "attached-to-ansi" mean in reference to printing? > Where in the documantation is printing (i.e., hard copy) > discussed? > > Thanks. > > "attached-to-ansi" means that a user who is logged on to a UNIX workstation from a PC or MAC with an printer directly attached to the PC or MAC (or a UNIX workstation) can hit prYnt and the output will go to the attached printer. In some communication packages, the ^S/^Q have to be temporarily disabled for this to work. Our users have found this very convenient since we have a central Electronic Post Office where users can read their mail with PINE, but printers are not directly available to the users at this time. ______________________________________________________________________ Mary Ann Bynum | I-NET/NASA Langley Research Center m.a.bynum@larc.nasa.gov | M/S 157B (804) 864-2925 | Hampton, Virginia 23681-0001 | ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 7 17:00:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05380; Thu, 7 Sep 95 17:00:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10362; Thu, 7 Sep 95 16:53:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10355; Thu, 7 Sep 95 16:53:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqqeW-00038DC; Thu, 7 Sep 95 16:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mary Ann Bynum Subject: Re: Locks in SUNOS 5.X Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 16:51:59 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Summary: A problem with user.lock files remaining when users disconnect a terminal session on a Solaris 2.4 compuer without closing PINE 3.91 was solved by adding mailbox cleanup code to the signal handling routines. I recently built PINE 3.91 on a SUNOS 5.X (Solaris) system using the "build sol" option in the configuration. We began having problems with instances of /var/mail/user.lock files being left around. The problem can be reproduced by closing an Xwindow session or quitting a telnet session with a Ctrl-] without previously closing the running PINE session. The problem does not occur under SUNOS 4.X. The problem occurs only when the session is interrupted with a mailbox which contains mail is open. Building PINE with DEBUG turned on and using the d 9 option on the command line showed that PINE was ending by two different paths: one which passed through the signal handler for SIGHUP, hup_signal() which calls a routine fast_clean_up() to close open mailbox streams and remove the user.lock file, and another which was finally tracked to a call to "read" in the function read_with_timeout() in ttyin.c (line 381) where the debug message "** Error reading from tty : No such file or directory" was returned. The system utility "truss" under Solaris 2.4 was used to trace the system calls PINE performed, the signals it received, and the machine faults it incurred. (Paraphrasing from the man page). This showed that two signals, SIGHUP and SIGTSTP were produced when the terminal session was interrupted. In addition, it showed that the read in ttyin.c which failed returned 0. The man page for termio under Solaris 2.4 states that these two signals are produced when a modem disconnect is detected. The man page for termio on a SUNOS 4.X system states that only a SIGHUP is produced in the same circumstances. The signal handling code for PINE is contained in signals.c. The only call to the routine fast_clean_up() which removes the user.lock file occurs in the signal handlers hup_signal() and term_signal(). The SIGTSTP is ignored. Adding a call to fast_clean_up() to the routine auger_in_signal() causes it to also check for open mailboxes and their associated user.lock files and remove them if present. The signal call to handle SIGTSTP was changed to signal (SIGSTSP, auger_in_signal) Adding this mailbox check has resulted in no locks being left around. The code which appears to clean up the mailbox in the function read_with_timeout() in ttyin.c after the read fails is probably never executed when terminal disconnects occur . Dprint statements there were never executed. ______________________________________________________________________ Mary Ann Bynum | I-NET/NASA Langley Research Center m.a.bynum@larc.nasa.gov | M/S 157B (804) 864-2925 | Hampton, Virginia 23681-0001 | ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 7 18:24:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08689; Thu, 7 Sep 95 18:24:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17929; Thu, 7 Sep 95 18:19:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17923; Thu, 7 Sep 95 18:19:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqrx5-00038DC; Thu, 7 Sep 95 18:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simone@crash.cts.com (Simone Shoemaker) Subject: Help wanted: lost mail Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 21:18:39 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I just got stuck in my mail program (Pine), and since nothing else would work, I quit the entire session. Turning on again and logging in I found that all my messages had disappeared from the inbox - unfortunately unread. Is there any way to retrieve them? Should I contact my server? - Sorry: don't know much about computers. Just hope the messages are still out there somewhere... Simone From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 7 19:07:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09970; Thu, 7 Sep 95 19:07:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12653; Thu, 7 Sep 95 18:54:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12647; Thu, 7 Sep 95 18:54:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqsZi-00038HC; Thu, 7 Sep 95 18:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rl_gerv@alcor.concordia.ca (Bob Gervais - YUL) Subject: Re: Running on DG/UX Date: 8 Sep 1995 00:30:01 GMT Message-Id: <42o2q9$kfl@newsflash.concordia.ca> References: <41bhm5$5s0@saucer.inet-serv.com> <41orlv$qc5@hopi.dtcc.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <41orlv$qc5@hopi.dtcc.edu>, Ken Weaverling wrote: >In article <41bhm5$5s0@saucer.inet-serv.com>, wrote: >>Will Pine 3.91 work on a Data General 8500 AViion running >>DG/UX v.5.4R3.10? If so what driver is required? Wow What a great machine you have!! I have the same one!! > >Yes > >build d-g Well I tried this, but I kept getting error messages about files missing in c-client. I didn't want to run in c-client, so now I'm just looking around to see if there isn't another way on installing it. (I say looking around 'cause the old rule is your supposed to look everywhere before asking. > >You may have to add #include to the os-d-g.c file >(from my own memory, been a while) > Never did find this file. ______________________________________________________ Bob Gervais - YUL If Your Wondering... It's The Airport Code For Montreal, Canada rl_gerv@vega.concordia.ca....or....roscan1@odyssee.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 7 19:14:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10144; Thu, 7 Sep 95 19:14:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18550; Thu, 7 Sep 95 19:09:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18544; Thu, 7 Sep 95 19:09:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqsrF-00038IC; Thu, 7 Sep 95 19:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jlempk1@umbc.edu (Jason Lempka) Subject: PC-Pine using Unix ~/.addressbook? Date: 7 Sep 1995 19:28:09 -0400 Message-Id: <42nv69$3q8@umbc7.umbc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Quick question: We are using a PC-Pine setup over a TIA link, for the students at my school, and I am trying to find a way to get the PC-Pine to look at the Unix Host that it is connected to, for the addressbook. Can this be done? I have tried putting in the pinerc, the following, at the proper place: 1) ~/.addressbook 2) .addressbook 3) {host.domain.edu}.addressbook And none of the above works. Am I trying to do something impossible? Thanks! Jason -- jlempk1@gl.umbc.edu http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~jlempk1/ "A man sits with a pretty girl for an hour and it seems shorter than a minute. But tell that same man to sit on a hot stove for a minute, it is longer than any hour. That's relativity. -- Einstein" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 7 19:29:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10429; Thu, 7 Sep 95 19:29:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13091; Thu, 7 Sep 95 19:24:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13085; Thu, 7 Sep 95 19:24:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqszr-00038KC; Thu, 7 Sep 95 19:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Daryl Edward Barnes Subject: Addresses to interesting newsgroups? Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:50:05 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am new to computers and I just started using pine. I heard about newsgroups and was wondering if anyone could give me addresses to interesting newsgroups. I am interested in all kinds of things like sports, computers, animals, RC car racing, and computer and video games to name a few. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. It would be nice if you could give the subject of the newsgroup with the address. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 7 19:54:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11047; Thu, 7 Sep 95 19:54:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18982; Thu, 7 Sep 95 19:49:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18976; Thu, 7 Sep 95 19:49:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqtPi-00038KC; Thu, 7 Sep 95 19:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Multiple pine sessions and readonly INBOX Date: Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:18:55 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Ken Shaffer wrote: > I typically move around from a lab to my office and use pine in both places > to access my mail. I start pine in the lab, go to my office during lunch, > and start pine there. When I access INBOX from the office pine session, the > lab pine session gets its INBOX set to readonly. Fine. Now, I go back to the > lab and want this pine session to take control but it's INBOX is set to > readonly. The only way I've found around it, is to quit and restart pine. > > Is there a way within the current session to take control of the INBOX, i.e., > set the other pine session to readonly? No. It's more than just "taking control". It's knowing what is in the folder. "Readonly" means that the in-memory snapshot no longer corresponds to what is on the disk. The only way to restore that correspondence is to toss out the snapshot and start over, and the easiest way to do that is to quit and restart Pine. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 8 00:19:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16700; Fri, 8 Sep 95 00:19:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16884; Fri, 8 Sep 95 00:02:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16878; Fri, 8 Sep 95 00:02:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sqxMj-00038tC; Thu, 7 Sep 95 23:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: George Lewycky Subject: PICO on SCO unix (ver. 4.x - 5.x) ??? Date: 8 Sep 1995 01:20:12 GMT Message-Id: <42o5oc$ot4@news.ios.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Is there a version to run on SCO Unix version 4.x thru 5.x, if so where can I obtain it ? Can I obtain it without the PINE modules ? I "tried" loading the tar file from the ftp site on my SCO box at work. And I cannot find the "executable" program to run PICO as a standalone editor, nor can I find the version to run on SCO (if avaialable) I'm in dire need of a good editor at my new job and I vi and me dont get along too well which is why I want PICO. Is there a version to run on SCO Unix version 4.x thru 5.x, if so where can I obtain it ? Can I obtain it without the PINE modules ? I'd appreciate any information on obtaining PICO for SCO.. please email any info directly to me if possible.... thanks in advance......george From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 8 06:28:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24670; Fri, 8 Sep 95 06:28:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21966; Fri, 8 Sep 95 06:15:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21960; Fri, 8 Sep 95 06:15:36 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA05345 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:15:35 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA19065 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:15:33 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA20683; Fri, 8 Sep 95 09:14:14 EDT Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:14:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: [Q] e-mail service Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Anyone, Can you point me to a best-buy internet service, primarily for e-mail, in the Boston area? TIA, Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 8 06:42:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25058; Fri, 8 Sep 95 06:42:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22186; Fri, 8 Sep 95 06:34:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vax8530.cesi.it by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22164; Fri, 8 Sep 95 06:33:03 -0700 Received: by cesi.it (MX V4.1 VAX) id 1; Fri, 08 Sep 1995 15:31:41 +0200 Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 15:31:39 +0200 From: Giuseppe Bottasini To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: bottasini@cesi.it Message-Id: <00996188.A7CBD952.1@cesi.it> Subject: Minimum hardware requirement for PC-PINE / DOS Status: O X-Status: What are the minimum hardware requirement for PC-PINE / DOS i.e. processor / memory ? Giuseppe Bottasini bottasini@cesi.it From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 8 06:44:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25096; Fri, 8 Sep 95 06:44:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22293; Fri, 8 Sep 95 06:37:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22287; Fri, 8 Sep 95 06:37:39 -0700 Received: from [192.94.212.14] by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08456; Fri, 8 Sep 95 06:36:26 -0700 Received: by cesi.it (MX V4.1 VAX) id 4; Fri, 08 Sep 1995 15:34:57 +0200 Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 15:34:55 +0200 From: Giuseppe Bottasini To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: bottasini@cesi.it Message-Id: <00996189.1C9CE53C.4@cesi.it> Subject: Remote addressbook Status: O X-Status: How can I define a remote addressbook in PC-PINE configuration file ? Giuseppe Bottasini bottasini@cesi.it From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 8 06:49:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25185; Fri, 8 Sep 95 06:49:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26043; Fri, 8 Sep 95 06:39:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [192.94.212.14] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26027; Fri, 8 Sep 95 06:38:41 -0700 Received: by cesi.it (MX V4.1 VAX) id 7; Fri, 08 Sep 1995 15:37:04 +0200 Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 15:37:02 +0200 From: Giuseppe Bottasini To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: bottasini@cesi.it Message-Id: <00996189.6888790C.7@cesi.it> Subject: MAILCAP format Status: O X-Status: How can I add new MIME type in mailcap file of PC-PINE for Windows ? E.g. I would like to add a viewer for WordPerfect files by defining a "wpf" type associated with wp.exe Please send me full details. Giuseppe Bottasini bottasini@cesi.it From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 8 08:10:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27205; Fri, 8 Sep 95 08:10:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27093; Fri, 8 Sep 95 08:00:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27087; Fri, 8 Sep 95 08:00:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sr4qw-00038CC; Fri, 8 Sep 95 07:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dsm2@keene.edu (Della S McLaughlin) Subject: help needed with creating plan Date: 8 Sep 1995 13:38:42 GMT Message-Id: <42ph12$738@top.monad.net> Status: O X-Status: Hello...I am new at the internet, but know enough to basically get around. One thing that I have not been able to do is to create a plan. If anybody know the commands and steps for this procedure, please post here or e-mail me at dsm2@monadnock.keene.edu Thankyou Della From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 8 09:14:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00134; Fri, 8 Sep 95 09:14:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28438; Fri, 8 Sep 95 09:03:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28432; Fri, 8 Sep 95 09:03:03 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08235; Fri, 8 Sep 95 08:58:14 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 08:58:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Giuseppe Bottasini Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Remote addressbook In-Reply-To: <00996189.1C9CE53C.4@cesi.it> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Giuseppe, Remote access to address books is a planned enhancement, but not yet available. (In the upcoming 3.92 version, it will be possible to share addressbooks between Unix Pine and PC-Pine if you have a shared filesystem, e.g. NFS or SMB, but true remote access without relying on a file system protocol is not done yet, and won't make it into 3.92.) -teg On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, Giuseppe Bottasini wrote: > How can I define a remote addressbook in PC-PINE configuration file ? > > Giuseppe Bottasini > bottasini@cesi.it > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 8 10:00:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02364; Fri, 8 Sep 95 10:00:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26286; Fri, 8 Sep 95 09:50:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26280; Fri, 8 Sep 95 09:50:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sr6aG-00038CC; Fri, 8 Sep 95 09:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tycho Fruru Subject: How can I tell pine I want to use pgpsendmail instead of sendmail? Date: 7 Sep 1995 02:28:13 GMT Message-Id: <42llbt$hqu@idefix.CS.kuleuven.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hello people, I want to use pgpsendmail instead of the standard sendmail but I'm just a mere mortal on the machines I'm using (ie I'm not root) and I don't want to recompile pine from scratch because it would take up too much space in my account... so what i need is an option to send outgoing mail to a local program, but this program is NOT sendmail. I think that the SMTP-server line in .pinerc is not usable in this case since it is a program i want to specify and not a host. Has anyone had experience with this? Please reply via email, I'll summarize. Thanks in advance ! -- =========================================================================== Tycho Fruru http://www.esat.kuleuven.ac.be/~fruru fruru@cs.kuleuven.ac.be "An elephant is a mouse with an operating system" =========================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 8 10:32:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03839; Fri, 8 Sep 95 10:32:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27258; Fri, 8 Sep 95 10:25:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27252; Fri, 8 Sep 95 10:25:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sr77Z-00038CC; Fri, 8 Sep 95 10:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Pine Help?? Date: 8 Sep 1995 15:33:24 GMT Message-Id: <42pno4$onh@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: FAISAL NASSER H.S. AL-ROOMI (roomi@coventry.ac.uk) wrote: : Hi : Is it possible to have an special interface like Unix Shell for Pine : or all other Internet tools to have them in a menu driven for novice : users?????? If The answer yes how ?? If the snswer not Whay ?? Try Lynx, ... make a file named MENU (or something like that) in html, then make PINE, FTP, TELNET, Helps, UseNets, whatever, start (link) from that lynx menu. It's not as good as a Dosshell for example, but it's easy for novices, and they don't have to remember the unix commands. I'm not sure this answers your question, but hope it helps. G'Day. /\ /~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 8 10:34:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03905; Fri, 8 Sep 95 10:34:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00517; Fri, 8 Sep 95 10:25:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00511; Fri, 8 Sep 95 10:25:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sr77a-00038DC; Fri, 8 Sep 95 10:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tycho Fruru Subject: PINE config : using another local program instead of sendmail? Date: 7 Sep 1995 15:40:51 GMT Message-Id: <42n3q3$68h@idefix.CS.kuleuven.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hi there ! sorry if you got this message twice, but i had some posting troubles here :( i hope all is well now... I want to use PGPsendmail (a wrapper for sendmail) on my account here but since i am not root i cannot simply replace sendmail with pgpsendmail. I have to configure PINE to use a local program to send mail to... but i don't know how to do this :( Can any of you net people help me out? Thanks in advance :) -- =========================================================================== Tycho Fruru http://www.esat.kuleuven.ac.be/~fruru fruru@cs.kuleuven.ac.be "An elephant is a mouse with an operating system" =========================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 8 11:09:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06154; Fri, 8 Sep 95 11:09:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01262; Fri, 8 Sep 95 11:01:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01255; Fri, 8 Sep 95 11:01:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sr7cR-00038CC; Fri, 8 Sep 95 10:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Shannon Price Subject: Re: Return Receipt w/PINE In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:56:15 GMT Status: O X-Status: Add the value: Return-Receipt-To: to the customized-hdrs field in Setup -> Config. When you compose a message, you can enable Rich Headers to let you add your e-mail address (complete address). You *could* add: Return-Receipt-To: but you'd be setting return receipting as the default action. I don't use it unless it's an important message..... Shannon Price sprice@eng.auburn.edu On Tue, 29 Aug 1995, Richard D. Meadows wrote: > > I just grabbed the FAQ and this probably answered in it, but, on the off > chance it isn't.... > > Can I put a line in my mail so that I get a note back saying the recipent > has gotten the mail or opened the mail? > > Thanks > > Richard > -- > I'll Give Up The Internet -- > When They Pry The Keyboard From My Cold Dead Fingers. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 8 11:15:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06334; Fri, 8 Sep 95 11:15:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28430; Fri, 8 Sep 95 11:08:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from elwha.evergreen.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28424; Fri, 8 Sep 95 11:08:50 -0700 Received: by elwha.evergreen.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/16Jan95-8.2MPM) id AA18093; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:14:09 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 11:14:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe Pollock To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Display problems in 3.91 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: We just upgraded to 3.91 and a few users are seeing a subtle display problem: When exiting Pine, the prompt line, such as "save read-mail to..." is overwritten by the next line, and vanishes before the user sees it. This problem has not been reported at any other screen. So far, I have not seen enough instances of this to determine a pattern based on either machine type or software (all machines are using some version of telnet to connect; this is not happening on serial lines). Anyone see anything like this? Any clues as to what to look for? I suspect some kind of video display glitch - every Gateway 486 or pentium running the WFW 32-bit TCP stack has the problem, plus one Mac (the only one of that model on campus). Joe Pollock The Evergreen State College From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 8 11:17:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06419; Fri, 8 Sep 95 11:17:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28547; Fri, 8 Sep 95 11:12:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhub.acsu.buffalo.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28541; Fri, 8 Sep 95 11:11:58 -0700 Received: from lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu (br@lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.7.4]) by mailhub (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id OAA18571 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 14:11:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 14:11:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Pulp-Fiction To: info pine Subject: Re: Renaming INBOX & editing procmail log Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: hello tran, thanks for the info. Your renaming of INBOX, seems cryptic to me, so can one change its name, by chaning the setting, for example incoming mail path (for INBOX) set to say $Home/Mail/'new_inbox_name, instead of /bin/mail/userid?? Love, Peace & Respect Jaz ........ -------- On Thu, 7 Sep 1995 > In comp.mail.pine, you apparently wrote: > | Can u rename the INBOX folder, since i have tried, and was unable to get > | rid of INBOX. > > The INBOX is usually /var/mail/ > > | Also can u tag multiple emails as junked, instead of using > | say ,a and del cmd. > > Yes... You can ";-[return]" on multiple mails and "A-D" (apply-Delete) on > marked mails. --------------------- oh thanks, i knew that one, i believe u have to set up for Config sys in pine, to have that ability . Last Tran, do u know HOW to set up procmail, such that a new log file is created every day, and the old is deleted, do u set up %d,-f, option or something. thanks in advance Love, Peace & Respect Jaz ........ ---------------------- > ____________________________________________________________________ > \ TRAN, Huu Da e-mail: tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca \ > ) B.Sc info (1hre annie) http://libertel.montreal.qc.ca/~tranhu/ ) > ( Universiti de Montrial tiliphone/tilicopieur: (514) 341-9674 ( > \______I'm_not_OKAY,_____You're_not_OKAY,_____But_that's_OKAY!______\ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 8 12:42:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10244; Fri, 8 Sep 95 12:42:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00606; Fri, 8 Sep 95 12:36:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00594; Fri, 8 Sep 95 12:36:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sr9D7-00038CC; Fri, 8 Sep 95 12:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cmr4@Ra.MsState.Edu (Christopher M Ruffin) Subject: auto-move read messages, but saving some in INBOX? Date: 8 Sep 1995 14:11:26 -0500 Message-Id: <42q4gu$4dj@Ra.MsState.Edu> Status: O X-Status: A while ago, I posted an article asking how to auto-move read messages. Well, I got many wonderful replies (thanks) and it works great, but what do you do when you read a message but don't have time to reply to it. You could save it to read-messages and come back to it of course, but I am letting important email slip by me that way. Is there a way to mark some messages to keep so that it wont move them to read-messages? Chris Ruffin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 8 13:12:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12143; Fri, 8 Sep 95 13:12:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03793; Fri, 8 Sep 95 12:59:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dmog10.bell.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03787; Fri, 8 Sep 95 12:59:24 -0700 Received: from dmoc61.on.bell.ca by dmog10.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA19485; Fri, 8 Sep 95 15:59:09 -0400 Received: from huhc53.ON.Bell.Ca by dmoc61.on.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA13446; Fri, 8 Sep 95 15:59:08 -0400 Received: from huhc06 by huhc53 with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12039; Fri, 8 Sep 95 15:59:07 -0400 Received: by huhc06 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03269; Fri, 8 Sep 95 15:59:05 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 15:59:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Violette" To: PineInfo Subject: IMAP mail notification client? Message-Id: Organization: Bell Canada Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is there such a program that can connect to my IMAP server at port 143, and without a login, check if I have new messages and return > 0 if I do and 0 if I don't? For example, at my unix ksh prompt: (host:jviolett) $ cmail {hostname:143}/var/mail/username (host:jviolett) $ echo $? (host:jviolett) $ 3 which would indicate the number of new messages. We don't use rsh for security reasons. Can this be done without me actually having to type my username and password to access the mail box as is the case when I first connect with Pine? Thanks for any help. -- -- | John R. Violette | Software Development | | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | | Operations Support | E-Mail: jviolett@on.bell.ca | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 8 13:29:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12837; Fri, 8 Sep 95 13:29:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04464; Fri, 8 Sep 95 13:21:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04456; Fri, 8 Sep 95 13:21:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sr9nE-00038DC; Fri, 8 Sep 95 13:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rick Bill Subject: imap & pine Date: Fri, 08 Sep 95 11:19:44 PDT Message-Id: <42q4ib$30c@news.laser.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have a couple of questions regarding imap and Pine. I am running BSDI v2.0 on several machines. One machine is the mail server. Users cannot access this machine except in Pine (or other imap client). When attaching a file from a machine (other than the mail server) we get the message: error in postioning attachment. The file does attach and is sent. However users are upset with the message. What is causing the message? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 8 15:04:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17315; Fri, 8 Sep 95 15:04:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04317; Fri, 8 Sep 95 14:56:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04301; Fri, 8 Sep 95 14:56:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0srBFy-00038CC; Fri, 8 Sep 95 14:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralph Hubbard Subject: PINE.CONF Date: 8 Sep 1995 19:30:45 GMT Message-Id: <42q5l5$fpf@beacon.regent.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: We have recently installed a news server and have initially set up pine 3.91 on a test basis. I noticed in the manifest that there was no default "pine.conf" file. We would like to set it so the first time a user uses pine3.91, he or she will not have to do set up and configuration on their own. We'd like to have so immediately, the user will read his or her newsgroups as folders and they will have an expanded view of their folders with newsgroups. Also the news server will be defaulted to our news server. Any help in this regards would be greatly appreciated. []===================================================================[] [] Ralph M. Hubbard [] Internet:ralphub@beacon.regent.edu [] [] Chesapeake, VA 23320 [] CompuServe: 73140,1203 [] [] Regent University [] http://www.regent.edu/~ralphub [] [] Computer Networking [] [] []===================================================================[] [] Rom 8:38-39 For I am sure that neither death, nor life, nor [] [] angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to [] [] come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor anything else in all [] [] creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in [] [] Christ Jesus our Lord. [] []===================================================================[] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 8 15:07:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17509; Fri, 8 Sep 95 15:07:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06551; Fri, 8 Sep 95 14:58:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06545; Fri, 8 Sep 95 14:58:36 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25280; Fri, 8 Sep 95 14:58:30 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 14:58:19 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Joe Brook Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ***** URGENTLY NEED HELP WITH MIME/PINE *** In-Reply-To: <42d4gm$qp7@linet02.li.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Pine doesn't invoke metamail directly. Is it possible that you have a .mailcap file that calls metamail? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 3 Sep 1995, Joe Brook wrote: > Date: 3 Sep 1995 20:51:34 GMT > From: Joe Brook > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: ***** URGENTLY NEED HELP WITH MIME/PINE *** > > [ Article crossposted from comp.mail.mime ] > [ Author was Joe Brook ] > [ Posted on 3 Sep 1995 20:36:09 GMT ] > > My ISP uses PINE 3.91 as a mail agent. I am receiving a great deal of > mail that is MIME encoded but neither the ISP nor myself have any idea as > to how to couple the two together. Every time I select Y to read in MIME > format I receive the message "Metamail not found" > Please help if you can or steer me in the right direction. > TIA JoeB > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 8 15:25:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18100; Fri, 8 Sep 95 15:25:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04876; Fri, 8 Sep 95 15:19:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha.loyno.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04870; Fri, 8 Sep 95 15:19:16 -0700 Received: by alpha.loyno.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/22Jul94-0234PM) id AA20078; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 19:20:38 +0200 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 19:20:37 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mary Aplin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Stopping printing of help... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello All -- I posted this message a couple of weeks ago with NO responses...here goes again: Is there a way to prevent users from printing the "help file" from within pine? Also, is there a way to prevent users from prining the "public" address book? Thanks, Mary Aplin Loyola University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 8 16:13:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19988; Fri, 8 Sep 95 16:13:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07960; Fri, 8 Sep 95 16:06:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07952; Fri, 8 Sep 95 16:06:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0srCSU-00038CC; Fri, 8 Sep 95 16:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Don Meyers Subject: Printing index of messages Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 14:31:09 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I will be happy (if somewhat embarrassed) to hear how easy it is to simply print out the Index to a given newsgroup when using Pine to view newsgroups. (Other than by doing successive screen prints, of course.) _________________________________________________ : Don Meyers & Kathi Ploeger : : Seattle, Washington USA 206-789-2678 : : /\_/\ /\_/\ /\_/\ : : ( o.* ) ( o.o ) ( o.o ) : :__ > ~ < _________ > + < ___________ > ~ < ____: Possum Tuxedo Aska From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 8 17:07:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22274; Fri, 8 Sep 95 17:07:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07146; Fri, 8 Sep 95 17:03:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from news.pacifier.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07140; Fri, 8 Sep 95 17:03:04 -0700 Received: from bart by news.pacifier.com with uucp for cac.washington.edu!pine-info (Linux Smail3.1.29.1 #30) id m0srDNp-0009ByC; Fri, 8 Sep 95 17:02 PDT Received: from bart.wfsg.com by bart.wfsg.com id aa16089; 8 Sep 95 16:48 PDT Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:48:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Hansen To: Pine Info List Subject: Embarrasing Question # 433 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Of all the abbreviations I've seen people use, I can't figure out what "TIA" means and I see many people on this list using it. PLEASE HELP ME NOT GO CRAZY! What does TIA mean? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dave "I just do phones and computers" Hansen dave@wfsg.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 8 17:56:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23652; Fri, 8 Sep 95 17:56:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08229; Fri, 8 Sep 95 17:51:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08223; Fri, 8 Sep 95 17:51:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0srE2b-00038DC; Fri, 8 Sep 95 17:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maor@celsiustech.se Subject: Re: Multiple pine sessions and readonly INBOX Date: 08 Sep 1995 10:11:34 MET Message-Id: <42otp1$j44@world.celsiustech.se> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Ken Shaffer wrote: > I typically move around from a lab to my office and use pine in both places > to access my mail. I start pine in the lab, go to my office during lunch, > and start pine there. When I access INBOX from the office pine session, the > lab pine session gets its INBOX set to readonly. Fine. Now, I go back to the > lab and want this pine session to take control but it's INBOX is set to > readonly. The only way I've found around it, is to quit and restart pine. > > Is there a way within the current session to take control of the INBOX, i.e., > set the other pine session to readonly? Go to "list folders", select another folder, and then select the INBOX-folder again. Then you shall get it read-write. /Mats From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 8 19:25:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26080; Fri, 8 Sep 95 19:25:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10848; Fri, 8 Sep 95 19:21:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10841; Fri, 8 Sep 95 19:21:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0srFVt-00038CC; Fri, 8 Sep 95 19:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "R. Allen Wilkinson" Subject: ASCII mail alias file to .addressbook ? Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 21:42:28 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Dear Pine users, I need to make the subject conversion and haven't succeeded yet I am converting from DOS using FTP Software's PCTCP mail functions. It uses a simple mail.rc file with "aliases". I have ASCII edited the file to have space delimited fields like the PINE .addressbook. But PINE fails to understand it. Can someone advise me if and how to do such a conversion? Please reply to my signature e-mail address. Thanks, Allen Address: Dr. Allen Wilkinson (phone) (216) 433-2075 NASA Lewis Research Center (fax) (216) 433-8660 M.S. 500-102 21000 Brookpark Road Cleveland, OH 44135 USA (INTERNET) AW@LERC.NASA.GOV From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 9 09:33:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12787; Sat, 9 Sep 95 09:33:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20357; Sat, 9 Sep 95 09:28:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20351; Sat, 9 Sep 95 09:28:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0srSgk-00038DC; Sat, 9 Sep 95 09:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: richgold@netcom.com (Richard Goldstein) Subject: Re: Embarrasing Question # 433 Message-Id: References: Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 12:44:38 GMT Status: O X-Status: Dave Hansen (dave@wfsg.com) wrote: : Of all the abbreviations I've seen people use, I can't figure out what : "TIA" means and I see many people on this list using it. PLEASE HELP ME : NOT GO CRAZY! What does TIA mean? : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ : Dave "I just do phones and computers" Hansen : dave@wfsg.com : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tia=thanks in advance Rich From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 9 12:53:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16658; Sat, 9 Sep 95 12:53:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21817; Sat, 9 Sep 95 12:48:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21811; Sat, 9 Sep 95 12:48:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0srVrc-00038DC; Sat, 9 Sep 95 12:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Russell_Schulz@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) Subject: WARNING: Re: Pine Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) Message-Id: <950909.105132.0W6.rnr.w164w_-_@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 10:51:32 -0600 References: <42d7p4$ph3@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Status: O X-Status: The Pine Development Team writes: > Archive-name: mail/pine-faq actually, that address is NOT the Pine Development Team. it's an autoresponder that simply mails you the FAQ. if you mail updates or fixes, they get discarded. I've notified the address in the sig. -- Russell_Schulz@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca Shad 86c From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 9 15:59:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20200; Sat, 9 Sep 95 15:59:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25305; Sat, 9 Sep 95 15:55:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ucsu.Colorado.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25299; Sat, 9 Sep 95 15:55:43 -0700 Received: (from villasen@localhost) by ucsu.colorado.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12/CNS-3.6) id QAA14282; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 16:55:37 -0600 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 16:55:36 -0600 (MDT) From: VILLASENOR ADRIAN To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help with printing text Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Please, I would like to know how to get my HP Deskwriter printer at home to print hardcopies of e-mail I reveive on pine! Does anyone out there know how to do it? If you do, will you please respond? Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 9 23:00:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27154; Sat, 9 Sep 95 23:00:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00456; Sat, 9 Sep 95 22:54:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00450; Sat, 9 Sep 95 22:54:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0srfHR-00038CC; Sat, 9 Sep 95 22:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: help needed with creating plan Date: 10 Sep 1995 04:45:39 GMT Message-Id: <42tqhj$4pk@grape.epix.net> References: <42ph12$738@top.monad.net> Status: O X-Status: Della S McLaughlin (dsm2@keene.edu) wrote: : Hello...I am new at the internet, but know enough to basically get : around. One thing that I have not been able to do is to create a plan. : If anybody know the commands and steps for this procedure, please post : here or e-mail me at dsm2@monadnock.keene.edu Make a plan with any text editor (if you're familiar with pine, then pico is probably yer best bet), then save it your home directory as filename .plan (notice it's '.plan', not 'plan'). Hope this helps... G'Day. PS afterthought ... as you're on an edu server, they may have that function disabled, or maybe not installed ... I dunno, I'll try to get into your server after this post, and if I find out anything else I'll followup. /\ /~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 10 09:10:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06960; Sun, 10 Sep 95 09:10:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03527; Sun, 10 Sep 95 09:07:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03521; Sun, 10 Sep 95 09:07:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sroqw-00038EC; Sun, 10 Sep 95 09:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cdh@worf.MR.Net (Chris D. Halverson) Subject: Re: Embarrasing Question # 433 Date: 08 Sep 1995 21:09:19 -0500 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: dave@wfsg.com's message of 8 Sep 1995 17:07:37 -0700 Status: O X-Status: >>>>> "Dave" == Dave Hansen writes: In article dave@wfsg.com (Dave Hansen) writes: Dave> it. PLEASE HELP ME NOT GO CRAZY! What does TIA mean? Thanks In Advance. -- Chris D. Halverson | Network Engineer Minnesota Regional Network | Voice: (612) 342-2838 511 11th Avenue South, Box 212 | Email: cdh@MR.Net Minneapolis, MN 55415 | WWW: http://www.MR.Net/~cdh/ PGP signed/encrypted mail accepted, finger for PGP public key From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 10 09:27:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07305; Sun, 10 Sep 95 09:27:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07787; Sun, 10 Sep 95 09:22:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07781; Sun, 10 Sep 95 09:22:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0srp5p-00038EC; Sun, 10 Sep 95 09:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nsheth@asu.edu (Nischal Sheth) Subject: Disabling Beep in Pine Message-Id: Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 10:46:12 GMT Status: O X-Status: How do I shut off the beeping in pine? I don't want a beel to sound every time I press an incorrect command. Thx, Nischal. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 10 10:55:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08983; Sun, 10 Sep 95 10:55:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04616; Sun, 10 Sep 95 10:52:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04610; Sun, 10 Sep 95 10:52:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0srqVn-00038EC; Sun, 10 Sep 95 10:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jonathan Ben-Avraham Subject: pine takes 1-2 minutes to start on LINUX Date: 10 Sep 1995 16:28:46 GMT Message-Id: <42v3nu$138@sarah.netmedia.co.il> Status: O X-Status: Please have patience for a new-be question: I reconfigured my LINUX kernel, rebooted. Now pine takes a minute or two to come up. I also changed some network stuff like my IP address. Can anyone give me a hint? - yba (benavrhm@netmedia.co.il) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 10 11:09:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09364; Sun, 10 Sep 95 11:09:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09194; Sun, 10 Sep 95 11:07:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09186; Sun, 10 Sep 95 11:07:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0srqjR-00038EC; Sun, 10 Sep 95 11:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J.S." Subject: Re: STARTING MY OWN NEWSGROUP Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 13:36:07 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Can anyone tell me how I can start my own group of a particular issue over this system. Please help me. Thanks. :) (When you do send me mail please just name the Subject JS so I know it's for me. Thanks again. JS From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 10 15:40:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14119; Sun, 10 Sep 95 15:40:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07409; Sun, 10 Sep 95 15:35:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07403; Sun, 10 Sep 95 15:35:13 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA26816; Mon, 11 Sep 95 00:33:06 +0200 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 00:33:05 +0200 (METDST) From: Vladimir Solnicky =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: The Pine Discussion List Cc: "R. Allen Wilkinson" Subject: Re: ASCII mail alias file to .addressbook ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Acknowledge-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, R. Allen Wilkinson wrote: > uses a simple mail.rc file with "aliases". I have ASCII edited the file= =20 > to have space delimited fields like the PINE .addressbook. But PINE fails= =20 > to understand it.=20 I am nearly sure that pine uses TAB delimited fields in the addressbook.= =20 This is probably the problem.=20 Hope this helps V. S. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz ftp.utia.cas.cz http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-{en|cz|ce}.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 10 17:06:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16116; Sun, 10 Sep 95 17:06:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08282; Sun, 10 Sep 95 17:03:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08276; Sun, 10 Sep 95 17:03:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0srwBH-00038EC; Sun, 10 Sep 95 16:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chdemgt@state.systems.sa.gov.au Subject: Spell Checking Message-Id: <1995Sep10.203611.28102@state.systems.sa.gov.au> Date: 10 Sep 95 20:36:11 +0930 Status: O X-Status: Anyone know how to spell-check pine with ispell? Is there an alternative program (publicly accessible) that will do what Unix spell does, i.e. emit the errors only (rather than the corrected text as ispell does). I guess it would not be a vast project to roll your own Unix spell, but I can't get perl5 to work with gdbm (seems the natural way). So would like a readymade'un. -- Michael Talbot-Wilson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 10 23:15:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23192; Sun, 10 Sep 95 23:15:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18356; Sun, 10 Sep 95 23:08:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from joyl.joensuu.fi by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18350; Sun, 10 Sep 95 23:07:59 -0700 Resent-From: PFALER@JOYL.JOENSUU.FI Resent-Message-Id: <9509110607.AA18350@mx1.cac.washington.edu> Received: from JOYL.JOENSUU.FI by JOYL.JOENSUU.FI (PMDF V5.0-3 #9276) id <01HV57PMCVPI9I4JQL@JOYL.JOENSUU.FI> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:10:45 GMT+2 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:10:45 GMT+2 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:10:42 GMT+2 From: pfaler@JOYL.JOENSUU.FI Subject: Re: Placeholder message created by PINE (fwd) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: Help me!!! I'm absolutely confused! Kristina ********************************************************* Kristina v.Pfaler-Kuisma, lektor i svenska JOENSUU UNIVERSITET Institutionen f|r interkulturell kommunikation e-mail: Pfaler@joyl.joensuu.fi ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 08:54:49 GMT+2 I have this message in my Pine: > From: PMDF IMAP server > Subject: > > This is a placeholder file created when you created a folder explicitly from > an IMAP client such as Pine. > > You can delete this message if there are other messages in this folder. > If there are no other messages in this folder, the folder will be > deleted automatically. 1. What can I do with this? This kind of placeholders are borne by themselves? My folder is empty - but this message and folder stays... I can't get rid of it! Always a message about "this command doesn't work" just here and so on... D doesn't delete... Just this message in a folder of it's one... 2. What shall I do to get the Prynt to print somewhere where I can find the text? It doesn't come to the attached printer in my room, not to the one in our net here in Savonlinna, so I suppose it goes to a "main university printer" in Joensuu, some 150 km from here... But when I use Internet I can choose if I want to get my text in my room or in our net room... - How can I chose the printer in Savonlinna for Pine? I tried the three suggested methods - none worked! 3. When or where can I get the Faq? 4. Where can I find something on the editor or spelling control program for Pine, if you have one? TIA Kristina ********************************************************* Kristina v.Pfaler-Kuisma, lektor i svenska JOENSUU UNIVERSITET Institutionen f|r interkulturell kommunikation e-mail: Pfaler@joyl.joensuu.fi From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 11 01:02:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25596; Mon, 11 Sep 95 01:02:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13308; Mon, 11 Sep 95 00:56:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vax8530.cesi.it by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13298; Mon, 11 Sep 95 00:56:35 -0700 Received: by cesi.it (MX V4.1 VAX) id 41; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:52:28 +0200 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:52:27 +0200 From: Giuseppe Bottasini To: dave@wfsg.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, bottasini@cesi.it Message-Id: <009963B4.C4783F04.41@cesi.it> Subject: RE: Embarrasing Question # 433 Status: O X-Status: >Of all the abbreviations I've seen people use, I can't figure out what >"TIA" means and I see many people on this list using it. PLEASE HELP ME >NOT GO CRAZY! What does TIA mean? Thanks In Advance Giuseppe Bottasini From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 11 01:57:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26912; Mon, 11 Sep 95 01:57:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20434; Mon, 11 Sep 95 01:49:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20428; Mon, 11 Sep 95 01:49:02 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:47:58 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA04103; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:48:51 +0100 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:48:50 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Ralph Hubbard Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE.CONF In-Reply-To: <42q5l5$fpf@beacon.regent.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 8 Sep 1995, Ralph Hubbard wrote: > We have recently installed a news server and have initially set up pine > 3.91 on a test basis. > > I noticed in the manifest that there was no default "pine.conf" file. First some terminology: "pine.conf" is the name of the systemwide configuration file that the System Manager sets up. The usual location for this file is "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf". The settings in this file act as defaults for every user, but can be overridden by users setting up their own preferences. "pine.conf.fixed" is the name of the systemwise configuration file also set up by the System Manager. It too lives in the "/usr/local/lib" directory. The settings in this file act as enforced settings for every user: they cannot be overrideen by users' own preferences. (If someone tries they are given a warning as Pine starts and their value is ignored.) ".pinerc" is the name in a user's home directory of the file which stores their own preferences. Whilst it is possible to edit this file directly with your favourite text editor Pine 3.91 has a very good Setup Configuration screen that allows all the options to be set up and includes excellent context sensitive help. This screen is reached with "S" then "C" from Pine's Main Menu. > We would like to set it so the first time a user uses pine3.91, he or > she will not have to do set up and configuration on their own. Whenever a new user uses Pine they will have a personal ".pinerc" file set up in their home directory. However most of the variables in it have no values assigned to them, meaning that whatever systemwide defaults have been set up in the "pine.conf" file are used instead. So what you need to do is: 1. Set up the systemwide pine.conf file with appropriate defaults. 2. Decide if you want to enforce any settings by also including them in the systemwide pine.conf.fixed file As you say, no "pine.conf" file is included in the Pine distribution. This is because it is generated from Pine itself. Simply give this command: pine -conf >pine.conf And you will have a systemwide configuration file template that you can edit and move into position. Remember to give everyone "read" access to it! Any settings you want to enforce can be copied into a file called pine.conf.fixed file (I usually copy the comments across too). Note that things like the "feature-list" variable work as you would hope, not as you might expect. That is, those values assigned to "feature list" in the pine.conf.fixed file are "fixed", and the others are over-ridable by the users (when I at first tried this I wondered if every possible value of "feature-list" would be fixed as a result). > We'd like to have so immediately, the user will read his or her > newsgroups as folders and they will have an expanded view of their > folders with newsgroups. To do this, set the following up in your systemwide pine.conf file: nntp-server ... the IP address of your News server. feature-list expanded-view-of-folders ... expand all folders. news-approximates-new-status ... this can be useful too: it tries to guess which articles are new News, and which you read but did not delete last time you read the News. Note that we have found it better *not* to expand the folders. The reason is that *all* folders get expanded whenever the "L" command is used, which can slow things down. Our users seem capable of hitting the Down Arrow key (to move to the "News Collections" field) and then pressing Return (to expand the list). > Also the news server will be defaulted to our news server. See above about setting the "nntp-server" variable. > Any help in this regards would be greatly appreciated. We have written a little "Quick Reference Guide" for using Pine to access Usenet News. We print it double sided on one sheet of A4 card, which is then folded to make a mni-pamphlet. You can see the text of this on our Web server at: http://www.york.ac.uk/services/cserv/documentation/guides/comms/usenetqr.html Please make allowances for the fact it is a semi-converted dump of a PageMaker document, so the font used to show keystrokes comes up as funny characters over the Web (I must get round to fixing the HTML version up!). The one snippet of information I didn't know at the time I wrote the guide was the usefulness of the "Tab" key. This steps on to the next New article in the current newsgroup. If none are left it offers to check following newsgroups for New articles, before eventually offering to return you to the INBOX folder. (I'll be putting this in the next release of the Guide when we reprint.) If you wish to use our Quick Reference Guide as a basis for something of your own you are welcome, but please contact our Information Desk (infodesk@york.ac.uk) to check about acknowledgements first of all. Thanks! Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 11 02:08:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27108; Mon, 11 Sep 95 02:08:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13981; Mon, 11 Sep 95 02:03:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13975; Mon, 11 Sep 95 02:03:09 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 11 Sep 1995 10:02:05 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA05189; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 10:02:58 +0100 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 10:02:58 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: VILLASENOR ADRIAN Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help with printing text In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ASSUMING that the terminal emulation software you are using understands the ANSI control sequences to start and stop redirecting arriving information to the attached printer THEN you could try using the "attached-to-ansi" printer setting. You do this by selecting Setup Printer ("S" then "P" from Pine's Main Menu) and then picking item number 1. If your terminal emulator accepts the control code sequences needed to work you should be able to print a message simply by using Pine's "Y" command. (If it doesn't work the message text will probably just appear on the screen instead.) (Note that you may need to fiddle with your micro's printer setup options to make sure it goes to the right output port, etc.) If you find that it sort of works, but is getting corrupted at points you may need to turn on the "preserve-start-stop-characters" feature in the Setup Configuration screen ("S" then "C" from the Main Menu). Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sat, 9 Sep 1995, VILLASENOR ADRIAN wrote: > Please, I would like to know how to get my HP Deskwriter printer at home > to print hardcopies of e-mail I reveive on pine! Does anyone out there > know how to do it? If you do, will you please respond? > > Thanks > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 11 02:12:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27233; Mon, 11 Sep 95 02:12:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20665; Mon, 11 Sep 95 02:08:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20659; Mon, 11 Sep 95 02:07:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ss4pE-00038EC; Mon, 11 Sep 95 02:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ferry Winarta Subject: [NO Message Text Available] Date: 11 Sep 1995 05:21:29 GMT Message-Id: <430h0p$q99@mippet.ci.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I am using Pine 3.91 (with IMAPD toolkit 3.6) and Winsock ver PC Pine 3.91. >From time to time, I am getting "NO Message Text Available" in my mailbox. This happen as well, when I tested Eudora using ipop3d (which comes together with IMAPD toolkit 3.6). Anybody has any idea ? Thanks and Best Regards Ferry Winarta From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 11 11:59:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17178; Mon, 11 Sep 95 11:59:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00226; Mon, 11 Sep 95 10:56:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from suc1a.harris.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00220; Mon, 11 Sep 95 10:56:56 -0700 Received: from spirit (spirit.farinon.harris.com) by suc1a.harris.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA20894; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 13:56:50 -0400 Received: from legend.farinon.harris.com by spirit (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25192; Mon, 11 Sep 95 10:54:36 PDT Received: by legend.farinon.harris.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA19924; Mon, 11 Sep 1995 10:58:10 +0800 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 10:58:10 +0800 From: mahmood@farinon.harris.com (Rehan Mahmood (ITG) SC) Message-Id: <9509111758.AA19924@legend.farinon.harris.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Six minutes to get into Compose Window. X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 1413 Status: O X-Status: Hi, I have Pine 3.91 on a Sparc10 (SunOS 4.1.3), with a global-address-book (GAB) of about 1 MEG. Normally it would take ~10 seconds for pine to create a /usr/tmp/a30????? file from the GAB when in Compose window. But since last Friday 9/8, it is taking ~5 minutes to create that file for each user. This is what happens exactly: 1. Go into pine. 2. C for compose message 3. Put in the destination name: To: scmahmoo 4. Get a message: Lookup file /usr/tmp/a3003263 doesn't exist, creating 5. ls -l a4003263 -rw-r--r-- 1 scmahmoo staff 34104 Sep 11 10:37 a4003263 -rw-r--r-- 1 scmahmoo staff 104462 Sep 11 10:37 a4003263 -rw-r--r-- 1 scmahmoo staff 219121 Sep 11 10:39 a4003263 -rw-r--r-- 1 scmahmoo staff 322186 Sep 11 10:39 a4003263 -rw-r--r-- 1 scmahmoo staff 434176 Sep 11 10:40 a4003263 -rw-r--r-- 1 scmahmoo staff 507904 Sep 11 10:40 a4003263 -rw-r--r-- 1 scmahmoo staff 606208 Sep 11 10:41 a4003263 -rw-r--r-- 1 scmahmoo staff 663552 Sep 11 10:41 a4003263 6. Message clears, and user can resume with the message. Took about 5 minutes. Very annoying for the user. Load Average on system: 4.24 Number of users: 81 (Not all are using Pine) Pine Users: 20 Any insight into this matter will be appreciated. Thanks Rehan Mahmood rehan.mahmood@farinon.harris.com (415) 594-3872 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 11 12:19:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17928; Mon, 11 Sep 95 12:19:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23191; Mon, 11 Sep 95 12:13:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23185; Mon, 11 Sep 95 12:13:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ssEBC-00038CC; Mon, 11 Sep 95 12:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tonyw8@aol.com (TonyW8) Subject: PC Pine slow to exit when deleting messages Date: 11 Sep 1995 09:28:16 -0400 Message-Id: <431dhg$614@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Status: O X-Status: I've noticed that PC Pine is very slow (on the order of minutes) when exiting when you delete, say 100+ messages. Any way of speeding this up or is this just the way it is. The Unix version doesn't seem to have this problem and from what I can tell the server isn't the problem (according to top). Tony Wyland Messiah College wyland@messiah.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 11 13:08:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20957; Mon, 11 Sep 95 13:08:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03074; Mon, 11 Sep 95 12:54:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03068; Mon, 11 Sep 95 12:54:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ssEmh-00038CC; Mon, 11 Sep 95 12:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Wenzel Subject: Re: Disabling Beep in Pine Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 16:01:38 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 10 Sep 1995, Nischal Sheth wrote: > How do I shut off the beeping in pine? I don't want a beel to sound every > time I press an incorrect command. It's very simple - use the RIGHT cmds... :-)))) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 11 14:50:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26115; Mon, 11 Sep 95 14:50:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26810; Mon, 11 Sep 95 14:45:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26804; Mon, 11 Sep 95 14:45:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ssGbT-00038CC; Mon, 11 Sep 95 14:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Disabling Beep in Pine Date: 11 Sep 1995 18:07:13 GMT Message-Id: <431tsh$84u@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Ralf Wenzel (n06600@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de) wrote: : On Sun, 10 Sep 1995, Nischal Sheth wrote: : > How do I shut off the beeping in pine? I don't want a beel to sound every : > time I press an incorrect command. : It's very simple - use the RIGHT cmds... :-)))) Nischal: PINE doesn't beep ... your terminal does ... ... ... Oh, excuse me I must have fallen asleep (using Windowzzzzzz Terminal with the beeper off). G'Day. ;-) :-( /\ /~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 11 15:45:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28555; Mon, 11 Sep 95 15:45:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07449; Mon, 11 Sep 95 15:39:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07443; Mon, 11 Sep 95 15:39:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ssHMF-00038OC; Mon, 11 Sep 95 15:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: spatlan@gp807.jsc.nasa.gov (Steve Patlan) Subject: Re: WARNING: Re: Pine Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 17:09:07 -0600 Message-Id: References: <42d7p4$ph3@nntp5.u.washington.edu> <950909.105132.0W6.rnr.w164w_-_@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> Status: RO X-Status: I assume everybody here know that this "warning" is entirely unnecessary, but just in case...... Russell_Schulz@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) wrote: > The Pine Development Team writes: > > > Archive-name: mail/pine-faq > actually, that address is NOT the Pine Development Team. it's an > autoresponder that simply mails you the FAQ. if you mail updates or > fixes, they get discarded. > > I've notified the address in the sig. > -- > Russell_Schulz@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca Shad 86c Ummmm, I'm assuming that you clipped the wrong line from the FAQ. The one you quoted above makes no claims about being an e-mail address. "Archive-name" is "always" the first non-header line in any FAQ that is archived at MIT. Surely you have seen at least one other FAQ and noticed this. The archive name is a standardized form which can be used to retrieve any FAQ from the rtfm.mit.edu mail server without knowing the full path to the file. In this case, pine-faq is in the comp.mail hierarchy, so its name starts with "mail/". It is *not* a "mailto" URL and should not be construed as one. Here is what how the Pine FAQ starts: ========= Begin Quote Archive-name: mail/pine-faq ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Content-Description: Where is the latest FAQ? The most up-to-date version of this FAQ can be found at any of these places: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/faq/ ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/faq mailto:pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu ========= End Quote The "mailto" URL is clearly indicated as a method for retrieving the FAQ. The address given is the same as the FAQ originator, 8 lines above. If you aren't paying attention and simply Reply-To the FAQ, you will obviously not receive your expected response. - Steve Patlan -- Steve Patlan NASA/DF73 (713) 483-1406 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 19 11:43:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22695; Tue, 19 Sep 95 11:43:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11219; Tue, 19 Sep 95 11:36:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11211; Tue, 19 Sep 95 11:36:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sv7NP-00038MC; Tue, 19 Sep 95 11:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tigerwolf@yiffy.tigerden.com (Tigerden System Admin) Subject: Re: Slow startup when not connected Date: 19 Sep 1995 17:16:01 GMT Message-Id: <43mtsi$dm6@ns.oar.net> References: Status: RO X-Status: John A. Rinere (jrinere@eznet.net) wrote: > Pine version: 3.91 > SCO Openserver 5 > We are having a problem with slow startup time of PINE (over 1 minute) > when our net connection is down. Since we are only sporadicaly connected > via dialup PPP link, this creates a problem for users a good deal of the > time. > Does anyone know of a workaround for this ? Any help would be appreciated. We echo your concern. Although connected continually, our provider's NNTP server is often dead or down for whatever reason. Sometimes it will accept a connection, but never respond beyond that. When this happens, pine just freezes solid, requiring the session to be disconnected. I suspect this is also related to 'runaway' pine processes which sometimes take all the cpu time, even though the user who started the program is not logged in. I'd definately like to hear any solutions. George Nemeyer System Administrator Tigerden.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 19 12:34:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25412; Tue, 19 Sep 95 12:34:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24458; Tue, 19 Sep 95 12:27:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24452; Tue, 19 Sep 95 12:27:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sv85s-00038OC; Tue, 19 Sep 95 12:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: steck@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Steckler) Subject: Re: notification of new mail Message-Id: References: <43jtdl$g3g@news.laser.net> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:19:30 GMT Status: RO X-Status: In article <43jtdl$g3g@news.laser.net> Rick Bill writes: > >I have a mail server running imap. Everybody within the organization accesses >only this machine for mail. My problem, how can I get pine or some other agent >to notify users they have new mail? Glad you asked that question. I have an email notification program for Windows, WinBiff, to which I've just added IMAP support. It's still in beta, should be released by mid-October. If your users have Windows boxes with WinSock, this should do the trick. Mail me at winbiff@blimpy.demon.co.uk if you need more information. -- Paul -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Paul Steckler | World-Wide Web: | | steck@dcs.ed.ac.uk | URL = http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/steck | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 19 13:04:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27011; Tue, 19 Sep 95 13:04:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13138; Tue, 19 Sep 95 12:56:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13132; Tue, 19 Sep 95 12:56:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sv8eq-00038RC; Tue, 19 Sep 95 12:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mreiser@netcom.com (Matthew Reiser) Subject: Printing flaky in 3.91 for SunOS 4.x Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 18:29:46 GMT Status: O X-Status: Summary: Anyone else experienced any flakiness in pine's printing? Background: Connecting, via telnet, to SunOS 4.1.x box running pine 3.91. Telnet is via WTNVT from FTP Software's OnNet 1.2. Using "attached-ansi" as the print option in pine. Symptom: Print jobs are sometimes held up until the terminal emulation window is closed, at which time, the print job is sent ok. Questions: 1. How can I configure WTNVT and/or pine to send the print jobs upon request (instead of having to close the emulation window)? 2. Is this an emulation problem or a pine flakiness problem? 3. Anyone else have similar problem and/or configuration? Thanks in advance. -- Matthew Reiser /\_/\ mreiser@netcom.com "Wise is the man with a brief signature." ( o.o ) ---------------------------------------------------------------- > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 19 14:58:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02872; Tue, 19 Sep 95 14:58:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28011; Tue, 19 Sep 95 14:52:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28003; Tue, 19 Sep 95 14:52:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svAT2-00038QC; Tue, 19 Sep 95 14:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rpr@tcd.net Subject: Newbie Pine, AIX question Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 21:22:49 GMT Message-Id: <43nc3r$vn5@news.tcd.net> Status: O X-Status: Greetings All, I am a new systems administrator of an IBM RS/6000 system running aix 3.2.5 I would like to use Pine for our in-house e-mail package. I have retrived the pine3.91.tar.Z file from ftp.cac.washington.edu and placed it in the /pine directory on the RS. Now for my newbie questions: 1. How do I extract the files from the pine3.91.tar.Z file? Sorry, i am also fairly new to AIX and Unix in general. 2. What needs to be done next to make pine work in AIX? I have looked at the FAQ file and the information on the Pine Information Center on the WWW. the How to documentation starts with running pine and sending messages. Any and all help is much appreciated. Ron Randquist Internet: rpr@tcd.net From skramer@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 19 16:03:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06656; Tue, 19 Sep 95 16:03:37 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17481; Tue, 19 Sep 95 16:03:35 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21267; Tue, 19 Sep 95 16:03:34 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 16:03:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Kramer Subject: Gap in archiving of messages: 9/11-9/19/95 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: Because of a technical problem with the archiving script, any messages to this list in the time period between Sep. 11, 1995, late afternoon and Sep. 19, late morning were not archived. Apologies for any inconvenience! -------------------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu Network Information Center University of Washington -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 19 17:24:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10695; Tue, 19 Sep 95 17:24:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19187; Tue, 19 Sep 95 17:19:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19181; Tue, 19 Sep 95 17:19:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svChp-00038QC; Tue, 19 Sep 95 17:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul-Joseph de Werk Subject: Re: Any ways to check whether mails are received? Date: 19 Sep 1995 22:31:25 GMT Message-Id: <43ngbt$4si@hpchase.rose.hp.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: jyetse@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (E Tse) wrote: > Is there any ways to check whether an entire e-mail has reached the >recipient's account? Assuming you're using elm add the following to your .elm/elmheaders file: Return-Receipt-To: your_email_address -- \ / )) (( Paul-Joseph "Dragon" de Werk (( )) Software Engineer/QA \\^^// Non-HP Personnel {o\/o} pauld@hpfriend.rose.hp.com \)(/ PGP Key ID: 0xB6179AA9 (@@) Personal URL: http://www.calweb.com/~merlyn/ / vv \ Linux: It's Not Just for Breakfast Anymore. ________________________________________________________________ Note: This email address invalid after September 29, 1995. Please use merlyn@calweb.com from then on. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 19 17:32:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10956; Tue, 19 Sep 95 17:32:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02036; Tue, 19 Sep 95 17:27:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02030; Tue, 19 Sep 95 17:27:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svCuA-00038QC; Tue, 19 Sep 95 17:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: awnbreel@panix.com (Michael Weholt) Subject: Re: Auto-Reply Of Emails Date: 19 Sep 1995 19:58:19 -0400 Message-Id: <43nler$cb3@panix2.panix.com> References: <43m4q7$nfu@nuscc.nus.sg> Status: O X-Status: Loh Kir Chern (mcblohkc@leonis.nus.sg) wrote: > Dear World, > > Can someone enlighten me on how to do auto-reply of emails, example an > email that notifies that "I will be away for ---" when there are incoming > messages. Caught chewing gum, were we? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 20 01:43:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24529; Wed, 20 Sep 95 01:43:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25570; Wed, 20 Sep 95 01:39:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from goggins.bath.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25562; Wed, 20 Sep 95 01:39:30 -0700 Received: from bath.ac.uk (actually host mary.bath.ac.uk) by goggins.bath.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 20 Sep 1995 09:39:13 +0100 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 09:39:01 +0100 (BST) From: mickey To: Michael Weholt Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Auto-Reply Of Emails In-Reply-To: <43nler$cb3@panix2.panix.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: >> Loh Kir Chern (mcblohkc@leonis.nus.sg) wrote: >On 19 Sep 1995, Michael Weholt wrote: > Caught chewing gum, were we? > After that wise and informative advice from Mr. Werholt, now on to something completely different..... Mickey --------------------------------------------- | Two wrongs don't make a right, | | but three lefts do. | --------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 20 08:46:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08071; Wed, 20 Sep 95 08:46:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16253; Wed, 20 Sep 95 08:40:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from franklin.seas.gwu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16241; Wed, 20 Sep 95 08:39:59 -0700 Received: from gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (gwis2.circ.gwu.edu [128.164.127.252]) by franklin.seas.gwu.edu (v8) with ESMTP id LAA16617; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 11:39:56 -0400 Received: (from tm1@localhost) by gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00572; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 11:39:54 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 11:39:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Tin-Mala Subject: filtering incoming mail To: Jonathan and DearOldDad Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <43mlj9$q12@grape.epix.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: DOD> know how to fcc outgoing mail copies to certain saved mail folders, DOD> rather than just dumping it into sent-mail, etc, ********** please tell me how! also, would someone please remind me how to: (1) filter incoming listserv mail into seperate folders, and (2) set the command for 2 separate inboxes in .pinerc *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Tin-Mala * Voice: 202-994-8637 * in cyberspace, i'm ethereal Fax: 202-994-6382 *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 20 09:51:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11781; Wed, 20 Sep 95 09:51:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03181; Wed, 20 Sep 95 09:40:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03175; Wed, 20 Sep 95 09:40:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svS4T-00038CC; Wed, 20 Sep 95 09:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: showie@uoguelph.ca (Steve Howie) Subject: Re: notification of new mail Date: 20 Sep 1995 13:28:30 GMT Message-Id: <43p4tu$mqu@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <43jtdl$g3g@news.laser.net> Status: O X-Status: Paul Steckler (steck@dcs.ed.ac.uk) wrote: : In article <43jtdl$g3g@news.laser.net> Rick Bill writes: : > : >I have a mail server running imap. Everybody within the organization accesses : >only this machine for mail. My problem, how can I get pine or some other agent : >to notify users they have new mail? : : Glad you asked that question. I have an email notification program : for Windows, WinBiff, to which I've just added IMAP support. : It's still in beta, should be released by mid-October. : If your users have Windows boxes with WinSock, this should do the : trick. : Blatant testimonial - I've had a peek at the beta and it is a very slick program indeed. The IMAP support works like a charm. So howzabout a *wee* help file, Paul :) Definitely worth trying out Scotty ================================================================= Steve Howie Email: showie@uoguelph.ca NetNews and Gopher Admin. Phone: (519) 824-4120 x2556 Computing and Communications Svcs. Fax: (519) 763-6143 University of Guelph If it's not Scottish its CRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP ================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 20 11:45:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17781; Wed, 20 Sep 95 11:45:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06028; Wed, 20 Sep 95 11:38:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06022; Wed, 20 Sep 95 11:38:52 -0700 Received: from zodiac.unl.ac.uk by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17308; Wed, 20 Sep 95 11:38:49 -0700 Received: by zodiac.unl.ac.uk (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA16130; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 19:38:59 +0100 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 19:38:58 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford Wesley Fulford To: Paul L Schumann Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ispell In-Reply-To: <439s2v$10s@nitrogen.mankato.msus.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Many thanks Paul. I've done it your way. No one came up with a solution to the problem I encountered with method 2. A good candidate for method 3 on the faq, and possibly a configurable option for a future release of Pine? On 14 Sep 1995, Paul L Schumann wrote: > Clifford Wesley Fulford 91705162 (cwf@zodiac.unl.ac.uk) wrote: > : I have tried following the faq on using ispell within pine. I used > : method 2 as vi is already defined as the alternate editor. > > I'm afraid I can't answer the question asked about method 2, but after > reading the FAQ and thinking about the issues myself when I set up my > pinerc file, I decided I wasn't willing to give up the ability to use > ispell's 'I' command (to insert a word into my custom dictionary). I > also prefer to use vi as my editor, so I wasn't able to use method 1. > > So here's how I set it up. In the pine configuration screen, I turned > on enable-alternate-editor-cmd, but left editor=. This > way, when I'm in composer (after filling out the header fields), I can > hit ^_, which leads pine to ask me which alternative editor I want to > use. At this prompt, I can type vi to invoke the vi editor to type my > message text. When I'm done with vi, I exit vi in the usual way (:wq), > which brings me back to composer. I then do another ^_, which again > leads pine to prompt me for an alternative editor. This time, I can > type ispell, to fire up ispell with full access. When I finish with > ispell, I'm back in composer, where I can then send the message in the > usual pine way. > > It is a bit of a hassle to have to type which alternative editor I want > to use, but it's a tradeoff I've been willing to make to have full > access to both vi and ispell. > Clifford W Fulford University of North London From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 20 13:48:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24795; Wed, 20 Sep 95 13:48:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24371; Wed, 20 Sep 95 13:38:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from maze.vsc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24365; Wed, 20 Sep 95 13:37:57 -0700 Received: by maze.vsc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/27Sep94-0126PM) id AA21223; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 16:39:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 16:39:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael H. Martel" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help compiling PINE 3.91 under MachTen 4.0 . Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Greetings. I just started to compile PINE under MachTen 4.0 with the command : build mct This chugged for a while and then died on the c-client, pico and pine. I was able to get pico to compile by modifying the declaration for sys_errlist in the osdep file. It actually works too! :) NOw when I compile Pine, it needs files from the c-client. Fine. I compile the c-client (doing these all with build mct's). And I get the messages: bezerk.c:430: 'W_OK' undeclared (first use this function) then I get ... bezerk.c:1278: 'L_SET' undeclared (first use this function) I grepped around and found that in the os_mnt.h file there is a definition of L_SET. The upshot of all this. (1) Has anyone compiled Pine 3.91 on MachTen 4.0 yet? And, what do I need to change to get it to compile ? Many thanks! Michael --------------------------------------------------------------- Michael H. Martel | Vermont State Colleges michael@maze.vsc.edu | Technical Support Specialist http://probe.vsc.edu/~michael | PH:802-241-2535 FX:802-241-3363 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 20 14:30:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26811; Wed, 20 Sep 95 14:30:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25470; Wed, 20 Sep 95 14:21:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25464; Wed, 20 Sep 95 14:21:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svWVM-00038CC; Wed, 20 Sep 95 14:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sdeboer@uoguelph.ca (Simon J DeBoer) Subject: Always a first time. Date: 20 Sep 1995 17:45:52 GMT Message-Id: <43pk0g$2ck@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> Status: O X-Status: Okay I just compiled and installed pine (and sundry imap/pico stuff) on my system and it all ran, yeah! BUT (there is always a but isn't there?) EVERYTIME I run it, pine thinks this is the first time. It overwrites my .pinerc (happily ignoring the fact I had already set it up) and then asks if I want to mail off that request. What is it looking for to determine if this is your first time? Simon - = = - = = - = = - Real World Info: Name : Simon de Boer email : sdeboer@uoguelph.ca Studying : Theoretical Physics @ University of Guelph (Canada) In Character Info: Name : Katrina Deazin +mail : katrina@realtime.pci.on.ca 6125 Position : Wizard of Arisia Mush located at realtime. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 20 14:35:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27162; Wed, 20 Sep 95 14:35:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25682; Wed, 20 Sep 95 14:32:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25676; Wed, 20 Sep 95 14:31:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svWer-00038IC; Wed, 20 Sep 95 14:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eattiyeh@tucson.princeton.edu (Edward F. Attiyeh) Subject: Reading UNIX PINE folders with PC-PINE... Date: 20 Sep 1995 16:42:36 GMT Message-Id: <43pg9s$2uo@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Status: O X-Status: Hi. I saved some mail messages to a folder using PINE running on a UNIX server. I then ftp'ed the file to my hard drive. I can read the file using a text editor but PC-PINE refuses to recognize it (I downloaded pcpine_w). Is there a way to get PC-PINE to recognize the text file or does it only work if it downloads the mail itself? Alternatively, is there a utility that would convert the text file that PINE saved into a text file that ELM can read (because I have gotten ELM on my PC to read text files saved by UNIX ELM but, of course, it won't read text files saved by PINE)? Thank you. Eddie From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 20 14:38:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27446; Wed, 20 Sep 95 14:38:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10203; Wed, 20 Sep 95 14:32:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10197; Wed, 20 Sep 95 14:32:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svWer-00038KC; Wed, 20 Sep 95 14:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul Weber Subject: pine login Date: 20 Sep 1995 18:39:13 GMT Message-Id: <43pn4h$sus@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: When I login into my computer as root and later try to read my mail as a user. PINE ask me for userid and displays root. I back space over root and type in my userid and then my passwd. However, the FROM line is always root@xxx.xxx.xxx.xx instead of user@xxx.xxx.xxx.xx in sent messages. Is there a work around for this? Thanks ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Paul R. Weber ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Computer Operations Manager II ~ ~ 301 Phillips Hall ~ ~ Electrical Engineering ~ ~ Cornell University ~ ~ Ithaca, NY 14853-6401 ~ ~ ~ ~ E-mail: prw1@cornell.edu ~ ~ Phone: (607) 255-1460 ~ ~ Fax: (607) 254-4565 ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 20 14:41:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27690; Wed, 20 Sep 95 14:41:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10191; Wed, 20 Sep 95 14:31:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10185; Wed, 20 Sep 95 14:31:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svWeR-00038CC; Wed, 20 Sep 95 14:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Help..usegroup e-mail Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 19:28:20 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 11 Sep 1995, Jibby wrote: > Is there a way to send e-mail to a person that posts a message in the > usegroups. The only thing I know how to do is to reply to the post, ie > posting another post. But how do I send e-mail to the poster? Easy. When you reply, pine will ask you whether want to post reply to news groups (this question is before it goes into "compose mode"). Answer No and it will have you composing a reply to the original poster. What is annoying (and the reason that I posted this instead of just replying) is that it is not simple to do a "Follow-up and Reply". I know how to do it, but I wish I could do it with fewer steps. -jeff Jeffrey Goldberg Email: J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk WWW: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 20 16:39:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02815; Wed, 20 Sep 95 16:39:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12963; Wed, 20 Sep 95 16:33:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12957; Wed, 20 Sep 95 16:33:09 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15663; Wed, 20 Sep 95 16:33:08 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 16:44:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Dave Rasmussen To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine news update question Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 16:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: What does one have to set to get the the .newsrc file updated so that the next time in pine, the read articles don't show up? Dave Rasmussen - Information & Media Technologies (ex-CSD) Client Services Internet: dave@csd.uwm.edu Phone: 414-229-5133 2m HAM Radio: N9REJ USmail: Box 413 Bol213, Milwaukee, WI 53201 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 20 17:08:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04646; Wed, 20 Sep 95 17:08:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29398; Wed, 20 Sep 95 17:02:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29392; Wed, 20 Sep 95 17:02:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svZ0A-00038CC; Wed, 20 Sep 95 16:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: filtering incoming mail Date: 20 Sep 1995 20:51:11 GMT Message-Id: <43purv$um7@ratty.wolfe.net> References: <43mlj9$q12@grape.epix.net> Status: O X-Status: tm1@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Tin-Mala) writes: >also, would someone please remind me how to: > (1) filter incoming listserv mail into seperate folders, and > (2) set the command for 2 separate inboxes in .pinerc #1 is covered in my Filtering Mail FAQ and #2 is covered in the Pine FAQ. Both are accessible from: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/groups/comp/mail/pine/ Good luck! Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 20 18:57:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07727; Wed, 20 Sep 95 18:57:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15465; Wed, 20 Sep 95 18:52:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15459; Wed, 20 Sep 95 18:52:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svai4-00038CC; Wed, 20 Sep 95 18:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Help compiling PINE 3.91 under MachTen 4.0 . Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 17:47:22 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: I just received a copy of MachTen 4.0 today. Unfortunately, my Mac is a PB165c and MachTen 4.0 is for PPC Macs only. I will check with Tenon to determine the next step. Please nag me about a week from now to learn the latest status of Pine for MachTen 4.0. I have heard that the current MachTen Pine binary starts under 4.0, but quickly dies with an out of memory error. It may not be feasible to run Pine under 4.0. 4.0 does not offer virtual memory, and should be considered to be a transitional release. I would recommend staying with MachTen 2.2 unless you need some of the new capabilities of 4.0, and wait for 4.1 to come out. On 20 Sep 1995, Michael H. Martel wrote: > > Greetings. I just started to compile PINE under MachTen 4.0 with the > command : > > build mct > > This chugged for a while and then died on the c-client, pico and pine. I > was able to get pico to compile by modifying the declaration for > sys_errlist in the osdep file. It actually works too! :) > > NOw when I compile Pine, it needs files from the c-client. Fine. I > compile the c-client (doing these all with build mct's). And I get the > messages: > > bezerk.c:430: 'W_OK' undeclared (first use this function) > > then I get ... > > bezerk.c:1278: 'L_SET' undeclared (first use this function) > > I grepped around and found that in the os_mnt.h file there is a > definition of L_SET. > > The upshot of all this. (1) Has anyone compiled Pine 3.91 on MachTen 4.0 > yet? And, what do I need to change to get it to compile ? > > Many thanks! > > Michael > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Michael H. Martel | Vermont State Colleges > michael@maze.vsc.edu | Technical Support Specialist > http://probe.vsc.edu/~michael | PH:802-241-2535 FX:802-241-3363 > > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 20 22:54:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13121; Wed, 20 Sep 95 22:54:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04796; Wed, 20 Sep 95 22:48:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04784; Wed, 20 Sep 95 22:48:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sveQB-00038CC; Wed, 20 Sep 95 22:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ronald L. Askew" Subject: Re: Help on Pine Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 00:58:32 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9509182356.AA14293@kimia> Status: O X-Status: On 18 Sep 1995, Vijendren Muthuthamby wrote: > Hi, > I downloaded the file pine3.91.tar.Z again to install pine in > our pentium servers running on Interactive Unix OS . I was able to > able to uncompress the file to pine3.91.tar. On using the command > tar -xvf pine3.91.tar, a subdir pine3.91 was created. During file extraction, > the following message was displayed for each file : > "tar - ignoring bad extent info for pine3.91/dir/x " > where dir is the sub dir that was created and x is the file that was extracted. > Anyway, the relevant subdirs and the files were extracted (I think so). > Then, I used "build isx" command to build the pine and pico. > The following was displayed on the screen : > ------------------------------------------------- > make args are "CC=cc" > > Making c-client library, mtest and imapd > make build SYSTYPE=non-ANSI OS=isc > echo isc > OSTYPE > rm -rf systype > ln -s non-ANSI systype > cd non-ANSI/c-client; make isc > make mtest OS=isc EXTRADRIVERS="" \ > STDPROTO=bezerkproto \ > CFLAGS="-Xp -Dconst= " RANLIB=true \ > LDFLAGS="-linet -lnsl_s -lgen -lx -lsec" > ./drivers imap nntp pop3 mh mtx tenex mmdf bezerk news phile dummy > rm -f OSTYPE CFLAGS LDFLAGS osdep.h > echo isc > OSTYPE > echo -Xp -Dconst= > CFLAGS > echo -linet -lnsl_s -lgen -lx -lsec > LDFLAGS > ln -s os_isc.h osdep.h > cc -Xp -Dconst= -c mail.c > cc -Xp -Dconst= -c bezerk.c > cc -Xp -Dconst= -c mtx.c > cc -Xp -Dconst= -c tenex2.c > cc -Xp -Dconst= -c mbox.c > cc -Xp -Dconst= -c mh.c > cc -Xp -Dconst= -c mmdf.c > cc -Xp -Dconst= -c imap2.c > cc -Xp -Dconst= -c pop3.c > cc -Xp -Dconst= -c news.c > cc -Xp -Dconst= -c nntpcunx.c > cc -Xp -Dconst= -c phile.c > cc -Xp -Dconst= -c dummy.c > cc -Xp -Dconst= -c smtp.c > cc -Xp -Dconst= -c nntp.c > cc -Xp -Dconst= -c rfc822.c > cc -Xp -Dconst= -c misc.c > cc -Xp -Dconst= -DSTDPROTO=bezerkproto \ > -DRSH=\"rsh\" -DRSHPATH=\"/usr/ucb/rsh\" \ > -c os_isc.c > mv os_isc.o osdep.o > cc -Xp -Dconst= -c sm_unix.c > cc -Xp -Dconst= -c newsrc.c > rm -f c-client.a > ar rc c-client.a mail.o bezerk.o mtx.o tenex2.o mbox.o mh.o mmdf.o imap2.o pop3.o news.o nntpcunx.o phile.o dummy.o smtp.o nntp.o rfc822.o misc.o osdep.o sm_unix.o newsrc.o > true c-client.a > cc -Xp -Dconst= -c mtest.c > cc -Xp -Dconst= -o mtest mtest.o c-client.a -linet -lnsl_s -lgen -lx -lsec > *** Error code 13 > *** Error code 1 > *** Error code 1 > *** Error code 1 > > Making Pico > rm -f osdep.c > cp os_unix.c osdep.c > rm -f osdep.h > cp os_unix.h osdep.h > cc -c -I/usr/include -Disc -g ansi.c > cc -c -I/usr/include -Disc -g attach.c > cc -c -I/usr/include -Disc -g basic.c > cc -c -I/usr/include -Disc -g bind.c > cc -c -I/usr/include -Disc -g browse.c > cc -c -I/usr/include -Disc -g buffer.c > cc -c -I/usr/include -Disc -g composer.c > cc -c -I/usr/include -Disc -g display.c > cc -c -I/usr/include -Disc -g file.c > cc -c -I/usr/include -Disc -g fileio.c > cc -c -I/usr/include -Disc -g line.c > cc -c -I/usr/include -Disc -g osdep.c > cc -c -I/usr/include -Disc -g pico.c > cc -c -I/usr/include -Disc -g random.c > cc -c -I/usr/include -Disc -g region.c > cc -c -I/usr/include -Disc -g search.c > cc -c -I/usr/include -Disc -g spell.c > cc -c -I/usr/include -Disc -g tcap.c > cc -c -I/usr/include -Disc -g window.c > cc -c -I/usr/include -Disc -g word.c > ar ru libpico.a ansi.o attach.o basic.o bind.o browse.o buffer.o composer.o display.o file.o fileio.o line.o osdep.o pico.o random.o region.o search.o spell.o tcap.o window.o word.o > echo libpico.a > libpico.a > cc -I/usr/include -Disc -g main.c libpico.a -ltermcap -lc -lcposix -linet -o pico > > Making Pine. > rm -f os.h > ln -s osdep/os-isc.h os.h > ./cmplhlp2.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.h > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c addrbook.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c adrbklib.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c args.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c context.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c filter.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c folder.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c help.c > ./cmplhelp.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c helptext.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c imap.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c init.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c mailcap.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c mailcmd.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c mailindx.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c mailpart.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c mailview.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c newmail.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c other.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c pine.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c print.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c reply.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c screen.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c send.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c signals.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c status.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c strings.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c ttyin.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c ttyout.c > cd osdep; make includer os-isc.c; cd .. > cc -o includer includer.c > ./includer < os-isc.ic > os-isc.c > rm -f os.c > ln -s osdep/os-isc.c os.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -c os.c > echo "char datestamp[]="\"`date`\"";" > date.c > cc -c -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" date.c > cc -DISC -Dconst= -O -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ISC\" -o pine addrbook.o adrbklib.o args.o context.o filter.o folder.o help.o helptext.o imap.o init.o mailcap.o mailcmd.o mailindx.o mailpart.o mailview.o newmail.o other.o pine.o print.o reply.o screen.o send.o signals.o status.o strings.o ttyin.o ttyout.o os.o date.o ../pico/libpico.a ../c-client/c-client.a -ltermlib -linet -lcposix -lx -lnsl_s -lsec > *** Error code 13 > > Links to executables are in bin directory: > bin/pico: 110988 + 30876 + 7496 = 149360 > Done > > > ---------------------------------------------- > > Each error was followed by a STOP. > The only file in the ./pine3.91/bin/directory was pico which I was > able to execute. There was no executable pine file. > I tried other port options with build but got more errors than above. > Please help. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Vijendren Muthuthamby > Department Of Chemistry, Malaysia > Jalan Sultan, 46661 Petaling Jaya, > MALAYSIA. > Tel. : (60) 3-7569533 > Fax. : (60) 3-7556764 > email: viji@kimia.sains.my > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > You have a small problem!!!!!! if you check ``/usr/include/sys/errno.h'', you will find that error 13 refers to a permissions problem. Security on you system is preventing the writing of some files. Perhaps the file belonged to another user, prior to your attempted write; or you don't have permission to write in the particular directory. Notice that the Error 13's have something in common with each other --- they occur during the final linking phase. This could indicate problems writing to the bin directory, or problems accessing a given library. Let me know what happens. Yours Truely, Ronald L. Askew Advanced Application Development Roswell, GA e-mail: raskew@netdepot.com vmail: (770) 426-5840 fax: (770) 640-7245 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 20 23:12:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13539; Wed, 20 Sep 95 23:12:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18440; Wed, 20 Sep 95 23:03:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18434; Wed, 20 Sep 95 23:03:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svec4-00038CC; Wed, 20 Sep 95 22:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jaffray@qlippoth.net (Alan Jaffray) Subject: Re: warning about PINE becoming detached Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 04:29:24 GMT Status: O X-Status: I'm crossposting this to comp.mail.pine in case any of the kind folks there have any ideas... At least one of the affected users formerly used MM and has a ~/mail.txt file, and I think people with mail.txt files are the only ones affected since otherwise Pine wouldn't pull mail out of the spool without being asked. One fix would be to shut off the periodic checks for new mail for users with such files, but I haven't written a patch yet. It seems kind of difficult to separate the periodic things we do want (checkpointing) from the ones we don't (snarfing). Thanks. In article , Chris Koenigsberg wrote: > >Warning: the version of the PINE mail program that is in >/usr/unsupported/bin apparently has the following serious problem. I >don't know if ALL versions of Pine have this problem or not; I haven't >checked into it yet and I have definitely had several reports of it >occurring this week with /usr/unsupported/bin/pine. > >If you are connected via SLIP and you get disconnected (hung up), the >Pine process will not exit as it should. Instead, it will become >detached, and will continue to run forever, or until killed. And it >will continue to slurp all incoming mail messages out of your mail >spool file. But it won't save them anywhere, so they'll be lost! > >We've already had several people who were bit by this problem. > >We do plan to put a version of Pine into /usr/local/bin soon, and >support it through the ACS Techline (advisor@midway). But it will have >to be a version in which I've fixed this problem somehow. I haven't >had a chance to check into it yet, but I assume there's a HUP signal >handler which needs to be declared etc. > >If you think you might have a detached Pine process running and eating >all your new mail into oblivion, here's what you can do: > >Suppose your username (logon id) is "cobain". Then you would issue the >following command, on each cluster machine (quads, ellis, kimbark, >woodlawn) where you might have recently been logged in and running >Pine ("ps aux" lists all the processes on the machine. "grep cobain" >searches for the word "cobain" among the process listing. "grep -v >grep" screens out the "grep" process itself, leaving only other ones, >like maybe pine): > >ps aux | grep cobain | grep -v grep > >If nothing is output, it means you have no processes running, and >you're OK. > >If anything is output, it will be a line describing a process of >yours. If the process is running pine, take note of the process id >number which comes just after your username on the output line. > >For example, if it looks like this: > >cobain 8563 0.0 0.1 32 200 pb S 16:37 0:00 grep pine > >then your background Pine process is process ID number 8563. > >And then you have to kill the process. Issue the following command (replace 8563 by whatever number appeared in your own output): > >kill 8563 > >Then repeat the "ps aux" command and it should return nothing, >indicating that your pine process is no longer running. > >Chris Koenigsberg >Academic Computing Services (formerly AIT) > >p.s. please correct any inaccuracies, I really haven't had a chance to >look into the problem in detail yet but I wanted to get this warning >out quickly before too many people are hit by it. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 00:03:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14556; Thu, 21 Sep 95 00:03:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05729; Wed, 20 Sep 95 23:58:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05723; Wed, 20 Sep 95 23:58:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svfUQ-00038CC; Wed, 20 Sep 95 23:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rick Bill Subject: imap & pine Date: Fri, 08 Sep 95 11:19:44 PDT Message-Id: <42q4ib$30c@news.laser.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have a couple of questions regarding imap and Pine. I am running BSDI v2.0 on several machines. One machine is the mail server. Users cannot access this machine except in Pine (or other imap client). When attaching a file from a machine (other than the mail server) we get the message: error in postioning attachment. The file does attach and is sent. However users are upset with the message. What is causing the message? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 01:12:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16290; Thu, 21 Sep 95 01:12:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19809; Thu, 21 Sep 95 01:07:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19803; Thu, 21 Sep 95 01:07:40 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 21 Sep 1995 09:06:33 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA11682; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 09:07:42 +0100 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 09:07:42 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Paul Weber Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine login In-Reply-To: <43pn4h$sus@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: The authentication you are doing by providing a username and password applies only to the *reading* of e-mail over IMAP. Sending mail is quite separate from IMAP (it either pipesinto sendmail on the local machine or uses a nominated SMTP server) and can be performed without an IMAP connection (eg, try "pine e-mail-address"). As a result mail you send out is always stamped with the username you are logged in under (for security/identification reasons I presume). Perhaps you instead need to look at adding a "Reply-to:" header and setting this to your own personal e-mail address? Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 20 Sep 1995, Paul Weber wrote: > When I login into my computer as root and later try to read my mail as a user. > PINE ask me for userid and displays root. I back space over root and type in > my userid and then my passwd. However, the FROM line is always > root@xxx.xxx.xxx.xx instead of user@xxx.xxx.xxx.xx in sent messages. Is there > a work around for this? > > Thanks > ~ Paul R. Weber ~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 01:19:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16446; Thu, 21 Sep 95 01:19:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19885; Thu, 21 Sep 95 01:13:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19879; Thu, 21 Sep 95 01:13:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svgfO-00038KC; Thu, 21 Sep 95 01:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oub@essex.UCHSC.edu (Brandon S. Ou) Subject: How to include attribution in replies? Date: 20 Sep 1995 23:49:32 -0600 Message-Id: <43qudcINNcoi@essex.UCHSC.edu> Status: O X-Status: Sorry if this question has been asked already. I can't seem to figure out how to include an "attribution" in my email replies, ie, I want to add a customized text before the included message looking something like this: On XXX time, user XXX wrote: <---- this is what I am getting at > blah blah blah > blah blah blah > blah blah blah Is this possible? Thanks. -- Brandon S. Ou ~{Iq3x4sO@E7Ji:j~} oub@essex.UCHSC.EDU University of Colorado Health Sciences Center School of Pharmacy Denver, Colorado 80262 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 01:49:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17418; Thu, 21 Sep 95 01:49:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20251; Thu, 21 Sep 95 01:44:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20245; Thu, 21 Sep 95 01:44:13 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 21 Sep 1995 09:40:49 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA13958; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 09:41:47 +0100 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 09:41:47 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Brandon S. Ou" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to include attribution in replies? In-Reply-To: <43qudcINNcoi@essex.UCHSC.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: It is not possible to customise the "attribution" in Pine 3.91 (short of modifying and recompiling the source code, of course). I *think* I recall the Pine Development Team saying it would be configurable in Pine 3.92. (But don't quote me on this! ;-) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 20 Sep 1995, Brandon S. Ou wrote: > Sorry if this question has been asked already. > I can't seem to figure out how to include an "attribution" in my > email replies, ie, I want to add a customized text before the > included message looking something like this: > > On XXX time, user XXX wrote: <---- this is what I am getting at > > > blah blah blah > > blah blah blah > > blah blah blah > > Is this possible? Thanks. > > -- > Brandon S. Ou ~{Iq3x4sO@E7Ji:j~} > oub@essex.UCHSC.EDU University of Colorado Health Sciences Center > School of Pharmacy Denver, Colorado 80262 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 02:00:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17740; Thu, 21 Sep 95 02:00:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07255; Thu, 21 Sep 95 01:53:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07249; Thu, 21 Sep 95 01:53:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svhGI-00038CC; Thu, 21 Sep 95 01:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Help with term type Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 22:49:06 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I get frustrated with pine when using it remotely from home over a modem because the window is only 24 lines long. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to convince pine to lengthen itself to 40 lines or something. My modem is pretty speedy, so I am less concerned about scroll speed than I am being able to read more than a small portion of the text at a time. I tried changing the term to various things, but I always seem to end up with something that looks like vt100. Ian Please CC: a reply to iano@scripps.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 02:16:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18086; Thu, 21 Sep 95 02:16:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20668; Thu, 21 Sep 95 02:13:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20662; Thu, 21 Sep 95 02:13:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svhb5-00038KC; Thu, 21 Sep 95 02:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Compiling on MachTen Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 19:01:45 -0700 Message-Id: References: <437ptm$v2a@news.myriad.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <437ptm$v2a@news.myriad.net> Status: O X-Status: On 13 Sep 1995, Michael wrote: > Forgive me if this is hard to read. I just installed tin on my system, > and I am not completely sure if it is working correctly yet. I have > Tenon's MachTen for the Macintosh, and when I tell pine to make bsd, it > says it does not know how to make ../c-client/mail.h. I can do make bsd > in the pico directory, and it compiles correctly. Pine will not. If > anybody could give me some help I would appreciate it. I am learning > Unix, so I probably sound like an idiot. Thanks in advance for help. The command to build Pine under MachTen is "build mct" while connected to the pine3.91/ directory. It does not work to invoke the makefiles directly. A pre-built Pine binary for MachTen is on ftp.cac.washington.edu in pine/unix-bin -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 04:11:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21682; Thu, 21 Sep 95 04:11:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08962; Thu, 21 Sep 95 03:59:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08956; Thu, 21 Sep 95 03:59:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svjDr-00038CC; Thu, 21 Sep 95 03:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sam Liddicott Subject: Re: Reading UNIX PINE folders with PC-PINE... Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 08:51:50 GMT Message-Id: References: <43pg9s$2uo@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <43pg9s$2uo@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Status: O X-Status: On 20 Sep 1995, Edward F. Attiyeh wrote: > Is there a way to get PC-PINE to recognize the text file or does > it only work if it downloads the mail itself? Did you use ASCII or BINARY mode? On unix, the line terminator is LF, but if you ftp'd in ASCII mode these will have been converted to CR,LF, which PCPine mmay not like. Alternatively, maybe you got it in binary mode, but PC-Pine wants CR,LF To fix this, load the file into MS Edit, type a space and delete it (change the file) and save it. But whatever :- try ftp'ing in the opposite mode. -- Sam Liddicott Campbell Scientific Ltd. 14-20 Field Street, Shepshed, Leicestershire, Phone: +44 (0) 1509 601141 United Kingdom. LE12 9AL Fax: +44 (0) 1509 601091 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 04:48:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22527; Thu, 21 Sep 95 04:48:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09741; Thu, 21 Sep 95 04:42:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09735; Thu, 21 Sep 95 04:42:11 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id HAA21926 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 07:42:10 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id HAA09362 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 07:42:10 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA01528; Thu, 21 Sep 95 07:40:50 EDT Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 07:40:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Novell-based Pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Does anyone have a cookbook guide for installing Pine on a 386 on a Novell network? This is for a friend, and I don't have any resource to try to figure it out for him. I'm East Coast; he's West, so I can't go there to work on it. ;-) TIA, Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 05:56:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24069; Thu, 21 Sep 95 05:56:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10637; Thu, 21 Sep 95 05:49:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10631; Thu, 21 Sep 95 05:49:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svkxp-00038IC; Thu, 21 Sep 95 05:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yehavi@vms.huji.ac.il (Yehavi Bourvine (58-4279)) Subject: Re: attachment of binary file in VMS Pine Message-Id: <1995Sep21.140303.3210@vms.huji.ac.il> Date: 21 Sep 95 14:03:03 GMT References: Status: O X-Status: > we recently installed PINE (3.89 - to be upgraded to 3.91 shortly) on our > VMS platforms (V 6.1). It works great, however, we run into a bug when we > try to attach a binary file. > The error is as follows: > > Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". > > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. VMS/PINE 3.89 does not support attachments. V3.91 does it. __Yehavi: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 06:11:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24460; Thu, 21 Sep 95 06:11:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23223; Thu, 21 Sep 95 05:49:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23217; Thu, 21 Sep 95 05:49:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svkwZ-00038CC; Thu, 21 Sep 95 05:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ank@freenet.asg.com (Adele Keuhs) Subject: Re: HOW TO IMPORT DOCUMENTS INTO PINE FOR SENDING? Date: 20 Sep 1995 13:44:27 GMT Message-Id: <43p5rr$a3e@newsserv.grfn.org> References: <9509182356.AA14293@kimia> Status: O X-Status: -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 06:57:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25657; Thu, 21 Sep 95 06:57:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23881; Thu, 21 Sep 95 06:49:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23875; Thu, 21 Sep 95 06:49:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svlrl-00038CC; Thu, 21 Sep 95 06:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hoareau@MicroNet.fr (Fernando) Subject: Pine&POP3 via PPP Date: Thu, 21 Sep 95 18:45:23 GMT Message-Id: <43rmlh$7ng@chleuasme.francenet.fr> Status: O X-Status: Pine users , Could anybody tell me if PINE is a POP3 client ? I cannot get any response Thks/ Fernando From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 06:58:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25713; Thu, 21 Sep 95 06:58:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11478; Thu, 21 Sep 95 06:49:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11469; Thu, 21 Sep 95 06:49:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svlsU-00038IC; Thu, 21 Sep 95 06:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steven Lichtenberg Subject: uucp mailhost and Pine Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 09:14:27 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am in the middle of trying to connect my local machines to a mail server and am running into a few problems. I was hoping someone might be able to offer some assistance. Setup: We are running an internal network using TCP/IP to the user desktop. We have a seperate machine (not on the net) connected to the Internet. the Internet connection is currently accessed by executing a 'cu' command to that machine (both our Unix hosts are connected via a null modem) from the Unix host. We can then run Pine etc on the inet host. I have installed imapd on that machine and am trying to figure a way to connect to that host using bang path expansion from the desktop machines. This is where I am running into trouble. Could anyone offer any pointers? TIA for any info. Please send responses via private email as I am more likely to get it that way. Thanks.. **** ---- "There's always time for a Homebrew!" ---- **** O|~~| ------------ Steven Lichtenberg --------------- |~~|0 `--' ---------- steve@inet.ttgva.com ------------- `--' -------- Programmer/Analyst - TTG --------- ---------- Alexandria, VA ------------ ----------------------------------- ENJOY LIFE--THIS IS NOT A REHEARSAL From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 08:19:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28925; Thu, 21 Sep 95 08:19:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25269; Thu, 21 Sep 95 08:09:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25263; Thu, 21 Sep 95 08:09:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svnAk-00038OC; Thu, 21 Sep 95 08:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sam Liddicott Subject: Re: Pine news update question Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 12:22:52 GMT Message-Id: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 20 Sep 1995, Dave Rasmussen wrote: > What does one have to set to get the the .newsrc file updated so that the > next time in pine, the read articles don't show up? You have to press the D key to delete the messages you have read. -- Sam Liddicott Campbell Scientific Ltd. 14-20 Field Street, Shepshed, Leicestershire, Phone: +44 (0) 1509 601141 United Kingdom. LE12 9AL Fax: +44 (0) 1509 601091 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 08:31:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29520; Thu, 21 Sep 95 08:31:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25560; Thu, 21 Sep 95 08:22:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from norwich.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25554; Thu, 21 Sep 95 08:22:38 -0700 Received: by clover.norwich.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/15Jan95-1221PM) id AA16815; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 11:21:56 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 11:21:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Lisa Parrish To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Lisa Parrish Subject: "perserve-start-stop-characters" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have set this on and off and can't seem to print entire mail messages from my attached printer. Slightly more that a screen will print ...almost an entire page of text....but then it just stops or ejects a blank page. We have a DEC ALPHA machine (DEC Unix) and access the mainframe from terminals and PC's using kermit and an old communication package called Zstem. We use mostly HP Deskjets, Deskjet Plusses, some Epsons. No combination of terminal/PC/printer seems to print entire message to attached printer whether "preserve_start_stop_characters" is on or off. Any help is appreciated. Lisa Parrish Norwich University Northfield, VT Lisa@Norwich.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 10:10:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05339; Thu, 21 Sep 95 10:10:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28027; Thu, 21 Sep 95 10:04:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28021; Thu, 21 Sep 95 10:04:34 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09246; Thu, 21 Sep 95 10:04:34 -0700 From: Dave Rasmussen Message-Id: <199509211415.JAA14337@opus.csd.uwm.edu> Subject: Re: Pine news update question To: pmb1@mailer.york.ac.uk (Mike Brudenell) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 09:15:23 -0500 (CDT) Cc: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Mike Brudenell" at Sep 21, 95 01:08:59 pm Word-Of-The-Day: officeholder X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23beta2] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 536 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 10:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: >From pmb1@mailer.york.ac.uk Thu Sep 21 07:13:22 1995 >From: Mike Brudenell > >When you have finished with a News article you must Delete it ("D" >command), just as if it were a message you had finished with. This >causes the .newsrc file to be updated and the article not listed by >default when you next read News (it can be listed by using the Unexclude >(&) command). thanks! One other thing, are there any user manuals available for current versions of, in my case, pine in the unix environment? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 10:10:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05388; Thu, 21 Sep 95 10:10:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28011; Thu, 21 Sep 95 10:04:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28005; Thu, 21 Sep 95 10:04:20 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09229; Thu, 21 Sep 95 10:04:19 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 13:08:59 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Dave Rasmussen Cc: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine news update question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 10:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: When you have finished with a News article you must Delete it ("D" command), just as if it were a message you had finished with. This causes the .newsrc file to be updated and the article not listed by default when you next read News (it can be listed by using the Unexclude (&) command). Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 20 Sep 1995, Dave Rasmussen wrote: > What does one have to set to get the the .newsrc file updated so that the > next time in pine, the read articles don't show up? > > > Dave Rasmussen - Information & Media Technologies (ex-CSD) Client Services > Internet: dave@csd.uwm.edu Phone: 414-229-5133 2m HAM Radio: N9REJ > USmail: Box 413 Bol213, Milwaukee, WI 53201 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 10:50:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07409; Thu, 21 Sep 95 10:50:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28862; Thu, 21 Sep 95 10:42:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from titan4.tpa.cst.titan.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28856; Thu, 21 Sep 95 10:42:11 -0700 Message-Id: <9509211742.AA28856@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Received: by titan4.tpa.cst.titan.com (1.38.193.5/16.2.1) id AA18025; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 13:23:05 -0400 From: Kevin Baluha Subject: I wish to not translate plain/text to base64 is this possible To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Thu, 21 Sep 95 13:23:04 EDT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Status: O X-Status: -- / / _ /--' /_) | / \\|// / \ (_ |/ (o ~) ---------------------------------------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo----- Kevin.Baluha@titan.com tmail titan.k.baluha work phone: 813-979-2417 home phone: 813-985-4522 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 11:15:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08943; Thu, 21 Sep 95 11:15:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17723; Thu, 21 Sep 95 11:08:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17717; Thu, 21 Sep 95 11:08:34 -0700 Received: from zodiac.unl.ac.uk by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14216; Thu, 21 Sep 95 11:08:31 -0700 Received: by zodiac.unl.ac.uk (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA03675; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 19:09:31 +0100 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 19:09:30 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford Wesley Fulford To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine login (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Paul > When I login into my computer as root and later try to read my mail as a user. > PINE ask me for userid and displays root. I back space over root and type in > my userid and then my passwd. However, the FROM line is always > root@xxx.xxx.xxx.xx instead of user@xxx.xxx.xxx.xx in sent messages. Is there > a work around for this? You may find there are several ways around this: 1. login in as yourself first and only su to root. If your on a multi user system this has the additional benefit of not exposing root to login spoofing. 2. When you switch user use the syntax su - The effect varies with different OS/s and system configurations (some sysops prevent changes to LOGNAME) but essentially su changes the effective id, su - changes the effective id and sets the environment to the login environment of . Under solaris 2.4 which I'm using currently this includes changing LOGNAME and effects the change you want for pine. 3. Login as root and configure pine (either through set up or editing ./pinerc) to set 'personal name' to what ever you prefer your mail will then be received as something like From: "Paul Weber" You can combine this with configuring an additional header as Reply-To: weber@psg.com which will give recipients the choice of where to reply to. (Pine prompts for this when replying to e-mail with a Reply-To: field. If you are the regular sysop for psg.com you might also put weber in your /.forward file so that if anyone does reply to root@psg.com its forwarded straight to you. Clifford W Fulford University of North London From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 11:19:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09243; Thu, 21 Sep 95 11:19:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29600; Thu, 21 Sep 95 11:11:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs.stritch.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29594; Thu, 21 Sep 95 11:11:34 -0700 Received: by acs.stritch.edu; id AA02349; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 13:18:01 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 13:18:00 -0500 (CDT) From: Jim Esten To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Setting Bug Reports Address Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: After perusing every doc I could find (and looking for a digest of this list), I'm at a loss for getting the Bug Report address changed. We are preparing (finally) to upgrade from 3.05 to 3.91 and I must admit that my users are somewhat unresponsive to any guidance, but rather openly do things that would certainly be a bother to the development team. I've set the real name and address in both pine.conf and pine.conf.fixed and start with a fresh account. When I test the bug report option, it still address to the development team. Is that where it would really go? I'd rather the questions filter through me as the Sys Admin. Any hints much appreciated as we are ready to go live with the new version in the wee hours of Friday morning. Jim __| \ \ / __| _ \ _ \ Jim Esten sysop@acs.stritch.edu \__ \ \ / \__ \ ( | __/ ---> Cardinal Stritch College <--- \____/ _| \____/ \___/ _| "In the beginning was the word, _____________________________ and the word was ..... adjust" ....also at jesten@interserv.com jimesten@omnifest.uwm.edu ....find me on the web at http://www.stritch.edu/jestenhome.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 11:24:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09696; Thu, 21 Sep 95 11:24:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17941; Thu, 21 Sep 95 11:17:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17935; Thu, 21 Sep 95 11:17:28 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05394; Thu, 21 Sep 95 11:17:22 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 11:17:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Kevin Baluha Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: I wish to not translate plain/text to base64 is this possible In-Reply-To: <9509211742.AA28856@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: You can *include* a text file using ^R, rather than *attaching* it. -teg On Thu, 21 Sep 1995, Kevin Baluha wrote: > > -- > > / / _ > /--' /_) | / \\|// > / \ (_ |/ (o ~) > ---------------------------------------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo----- > Kevin.Baluha@titan.com > tmail titan.k.baluha > work phone: 813-979-2417 > home phone: 813-985-4522 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 11:39:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10696; Thu, 21 Sep 95 11:39:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18327; Thu, 21 Sep 95 11:30:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18321; Thu, 21 Sep 95 11:30:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svqCd-00038IC; Thu, 21 Sep 95 11:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: svreddy@CSTP.UMKC.EDU Subject: sent-mail...help Date: 21 Sep 1995 15:43:17 GMT Message-Id: <43s16l$pph@kasey.umkc.edu> Status: O X-Status: hello I use pine on a vax system and I noticed that pine doesn't create a sent-mail folder like it does on a unix system...can anyone tell me if this is a switch that I have to set and if so ..how do I do this? Someone please help...if they know anything about this thanks in advance Sridhar .......svreddy@cstp.umkc.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 11:45:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11015; Thu, 21 Sep 95 11:45:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00398; Thu, 21 Sep 95 11:41:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00392; Thu, 21 Sep 95 11:41:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svqVB-00038CC; Thu, 21 Sep 95 11:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: showie@uoguelph.ca (Steve Howie) Subject: Changes to Pico Date: 21 Sep 1995 16:03:43 GMT Message-Id: <43s2cv$7ei@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> Status: O X-Status: Howdy, I was wondering if some could point me to a list of changes made to Pico between version 2.3 and 2.5? We just installed 3.91 of Pine into production, and would like to keep the latest version of Pico as an external editor too. Thanks! Scotty ================================================================= Steve Howie Email: showie@uoguelph.ca NetNews and Gopher Admin. Phone: (519) 824-4120 x2556 Computing and Communications Svcs. Fax: (519) 763-6143 University of Guelph If it's not Scottish its CRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP ================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 12:23:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12688; Thu, 21 Sep 95 12:23:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19376; Thu, 21 Sep 95 12:16:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19370; Thu, 21 Sep 95 12:16:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svr1r-00038CC; Thu, 21 Sep 95 12:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Penio Penev Subject: Bug (ID Y317C): BASE64 vs. text encoding of attachemnts Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-2125129881-1641859947-811697842=:27176" Message-Id: Content-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 15:37:22 GMT Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---2125129881-1641859947-811697842=:27176 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Dear Developers, In the expectation of 3.92, I have the following concern. When Pine attaches files to messages, it has to make a decision which encoding to use. I would expect it to make a decision, based on the data in the file. Currently, Pine encodes as BASE64 everything, which does not promote the smooth transition to MIME. I searched the pine-info archives and didn't find any explanation on why this is so. If it is difficult or unfeasible to analyze every attachment, I would propose having another key in the header editing besides ^J, that attachest a text file. -- Penio Penev 1-212-327-7423 ---2125129881-1641859947-811697842=:27176 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = penev, full = Penio Penev home = /usr/people/penev home_dir= /usr/people/penev hostname= pisa.rockefeller.edu localdom= rockefeller.edu userdom= pisa.rockefeller.edu maildom= pisa.rockefeller.edu cur_cntxt= {pisa.rockefeller.edu:143}user.penev.[] cur_fldr= WWW.BG actual mbox= {pisa.rockefeller.edu}user.penev.WWW.BG msgmap: tot=14, cur=12, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=OrderedSubj actual inbox= /usr/people/penev/M/INBOX inbox map: tot=10, cur=8, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=OrderedSubj term type=iris-ansi, ttyname=/dev/ttyq0, size=45x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Penio Penev user-id : penev user-domain : pisa.rockefeller.edu smtp-server : pisa.rockefeller.edu nntp-server : rockyd.rockefeller.edu inbox-path : M/INBOX incoming-folders : Received {pisa.rockefeller.edu:143}user.penev.received : RFE M/RFE : Diag M/Diag : Lists M/Lists : returned M/returned : AUBG M/AUBG : Connectionists M/nnet : ANSForth M/ANSForth : SmartList M/SmartList : HPC M/HPC : HPCNews M/news : InterNIC M/internic : reinforce M/reinforce : PFE M/PFE : WINE M/WINE : RemotePrinting M/tpc-rp : s.c.b *{pisa:11900/nntp}soc.culture.bulgaria folder-collections : pisa {pisa.rockefeller.edu:143}user.penev.[] : Lists @ pisa {pisa.rockefeller.edu:143}list.[] : Mail Mail/[] : News saves News/[] : home ~/[] : Anonymous@pisa {pisa/anonymous}[] : {cyrus.andrew.cmu.edu/anonymous}archive.[] : *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}[] : Bulgaria htdocs/Bulgaria/Articles/[] news-collections : News *{rockyd/nntp}[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail read-message-folder : received signature-file : .pinesig address-book : .addressbook feature-list : news-read-in-newsrc-order : show-selected-in-boldface : signature-at-bottom : compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm : delete-skips-deleted : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : save-will-advance : auto-move-read-msgs : expunge-without-confirm : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : enable-incoming-folders : include-attachments-in-reply : enable-flag-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut customized-hdrs : Reply-To: : Return-Receipt-To: saved-msg-name-rule : by-sender fcc-name-rule : by-recipient sort-key : OrderedSubj addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last editor : xemacs -nw use-only-domain-name : no printer : lp personal-print-comma : lp standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 95.9 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/usr/people/penev/.pinerc) ======= user-domain : pisa.rockefeller.edu smtp-server : pisa.rockefeller.edu nntp-server : rockyd.rockefeller.edu inbox-path : M/INBOX incoming-folders : Received {pisa.rockefeller.edu:143}user.penev.received : RFE M/RFE : Diag M/Diag : Lists M/Lists : returned M/returned : AUBG M/AUBG : Connectionists M/nnet : ANSForth M/ANSForth : SmartList M/SmartList : HPC M/HPC : HPCNews M/news : InterNIC M/internic : reinforce M/reinforce : PFE M/PFE : WINE M/WINE : RemotePrinting M/tpc-rp : s.c.b *{pisa:11900/nntp}soc.culture.bulgaria folder-collections : pisa {pisa.rockefeller.edu:143}user.penev.[] : Lists @ pisa {pisa.rockefeller.edu:143}list.[] : Mail Mail/[] : News saves News/[] : home ~/[] : Anonymous@pisa {pisa/anonymous}[] : {cyrus.andrew.cmu.edu/anonymous}archive.[] : *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}[] : Bulgaria htdocs/Bulgaria/Articles/[] news-collections : News *{rockyd/nntp}[] read-message-folder : received signature-file : .pinesig feature-list : news-read-in-newsrc-order : show-selected-in-boldface : signature-at-bottom : compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm : delete-skips-deleted : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : save-will-advance : auto-move-read-msgs : expunge-without-confirm : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : enable-incoming-folders : include-attachments-in-reply : enable-flag-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut customized-hdrs : Reply-To: : Return-Receipt-To: saved-msg-name-rule : by-sender fcc-name-rule : by-recipient sort-key : OrderedSubj editor : xemacs -nw printer : lp personal-print-comma : lp last-time-prune-ques : 95.9 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd enable-aggregate-command-set enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly enable-bounce-cmd 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Thu, 21 Sep 1995 17:38:54 GMT Message-Id: <43s7u7$3pl@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to limit users to just their home directory in pico, not the rest of the system? Tony ambrose@ix.netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 13:04:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14869; Thu, 21 Sep 95 13:04:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20209; Thu, 21 Sep 95 12:55:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20203; Thu, 21 Sep 95 12:55:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svrfX-00038KC; Thu, 21 Sep 95 12:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gesv0011@rz03.FH-Karlsruhe.DE (Sven Geggus) Subject: PINE and pgp ? Date: 21 Sep 1995 16:49:59 GMT Message-Id: <43s53n$4ha@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Hi there, is there a possibility of using pgp with pine ? If so, please let me know TIA Sven -- E-MAIL: gesv0011@rz03.FH-KARLSRUHE.DE PHONE: +49 7244 4952 URL: http://www.fh-karlsruhe.de/~gesv0011 SNAILMAIL: Sven Geggus - Haydnstr.5 - 76356 Weingarten - GERMANY > In the meantime the trafic jam on our Data Highway is like on the Autobahn < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 13:07:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15155; Thu, 21 Sep 95 13:07:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02068; Thu, 21 Sep 95 13:00:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02060; Thu, 21 Sep 95 13:00:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svrkz-00038CC; Thu, 21 Sep 95 12:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kruise@rs6a.wln.com (kruise) Subject: E-mail: Pine to Groupwise questions Date: 21 Sep 1995 17:47:23 GMT Message-Id: <43s8fb$fs4@calliope.wln.com> Status: O X-Status: At my agency some users have network access through Sun workstations and others are on Novell. We recently get email connectivity between Unix and Novell. My question, how do you sent binary files between the two using Pine and Groupwise? These two email softwares seem not to recognise each other's attachments. How do I decode them? Thanks! Randy Kreuziger kruise@wln.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 14:18:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18289; Thu, 21 Sep 95 14:18:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22065; Thu, 21 Sep 95 14:05:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22059; Thu, 21 Sep 95 14:05:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svshd-00038KC; Thu, 21 Sep 95 13:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Vern Buis Subject: Wanted: Sample Winsock Pinerc Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 14:41:51 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I'm continuing my struggle to install Winsock Pine under Windows 95. Could anyone who has Winsock Pine running send me a copy of your PINERC for comparison? Should a PINERC that works with a different version of PC Pine also work with the Winsock version? Thanks. Vern Buis Internet: vbuis@neon.nlc.state.ne.us Computer Services Director CompuServe: 76666,103 Nebraska Library Commission From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 14:28:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19102; Thu, 21 Sep 95 14:28:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04031; Thu, 21 Sep 95 14:20:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04023; Thu, 21 Sep 95 14:20:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svszs-00038CC; Thu, 21 Sep 95 14:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Lees Subject: Help with lists! Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 16:06:48 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am using pine on a cluster of IBM workstations using AIX 3. In my .addressbook I have a DISTRIBUTION LIST: which has 41 addresses in it. When I try to send mail to the list, I am getting an error. Help please! Thanks, John Lees Center for Simulational Physics Department of Physics and Astronomy University of Georgia Athens, Georgia 30602-2451 USA jlees@sb.dcs.uga.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 14:47:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20192; Thu, 21 Sep 95 14:47:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23017; Thu, 21 Sep 95 14:40:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23011; Thu, 21 Sep 95 14:40:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0svtHw-00038CC; Thu, 21 Sep 95 14:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: irisifec@comnet3.ksc.net.th (IRIS-IFEC Co.) Subject: Help on PINE's margin settings Date: 20 Sep 1995 10:41:44 GMT Message-Id: <43or58$pd@abac.au.ac.th> Status: O X-Status: Hi, I would like to ask a question about PINE's margins. I wanted to set the number of characters per line to 70 characters only. In others words, I would like PINE to wrap the line to the next one after 70 chars. I looked in the .pinerc file, but they don't have any setting for that. Or is it my impression that PINE doesn't have margin settings. Thanx in advance. Regards, -EG- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 21 15:03:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20741; Thu, 21 Sep 95 15:03:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04908; Thu, 21 Sep 95 14:56:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04894; Thu, 21 Sep 95 14:56:19 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.09/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19817; Thu, 21 Sep 95 14:56:15 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 14:56:12 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jim Esten Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Setting Bug Reports Address In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-2095879823-811720572=:7835" Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-2095879823-811720572=:7835 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You need to apply the attached patch to the Pine 3.91 sources and recompile... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 21 Sep 1995, Jim Esten wrote: > Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 13:18:00 -0500 (CDT) > From: Jim Esten > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Setting Bug Reports Address > > > After perusing every doc I could find (and looking for a digest of this > list), I'm at a loss for getting the Bug Report address changed. We are > preparing (finally) to upgrade from 3.05 to 3.91 and I must admit that my > users are somewhat unresponsive to any guidance, but rather openly do > things that would certainly be a bother to the development team. > > I've set the real name and address in both pine.conf and pine.conf.fixed > and start with a fresh account. When I test the bug report option, it > still address to the development team. Is that where it would really go? > I'd rather the questions filter through me as the Sys Admin. > > Any hints much appreciated as we are ready to go live with the new > version in the wee hours of Friday morning. > > Jim > > __| \ \ / __| _ \ _ \ Jim Esten sysop@acs.stritch.edu > \__ \ \ / \__ \ ( | __/ ---> Cardinal Stritch College <--- > \____/ _| \____/ \___/ _| "In the begi