From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 1 08:17:49 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 08:17:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA26064 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 08:17:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA15191; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 08:17:43 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA00355; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 08:15:34 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA20582 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 08:14:03 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA25792 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 08:14:03 -0800 Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA03413 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 08:14:00 -0800 Received: from default ([12.69.67.163]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA9135 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 16:13:28 +0000 Message-Id: <34ABC17F.2530@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 11:17:03 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: SANDY SIMPLER To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Please Help ME! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/95.01/msg00257.html X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am VERY computer illertiate! I have AT&T Worldnet Service. I can't open my attachments because I don't know how! I am hoping you will be able to help me! Thank- You Beth From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 1 16:11:00 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 16:11:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA30073 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 16:10:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA20443; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 16:10:54 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA01631; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 16:08:30 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA26046 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 16:07:38 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA27688 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 16:07:38 -0800 Received: from imo01.mx.aol.com (imo01.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.113]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA20414 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 16:07:35 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 19:06:51 EST Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ben Jen 01 To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: binhex 4.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I recieved mail stating it must be converted using binhex 4.0. I am not fimular with conversions. Found your address using yahoo!. Can you help me. We have a Japanees student staying with us. This letter is from her father. Would like to convert before she leaves for home Sunday. Thanx. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 1 17:31:53 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 17:31:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA30956 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 17:31:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA09603; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 17:31:47 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA15763; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 17:29:22 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA15086 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 17:28:51 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id RAA07806 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 17:28:50 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 02 Jan 98 02:28:26 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA23691; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 01:53:05 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 02 Jan 1998 01:53:05 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: binhex 4.0 In-Reply-To: Ben Jen 01's message of "Thu, 1 Jan 1998 19:06:51 EST" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ben Jen 01 X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > "BJ0" == Ben Jen 01 writes: BJ0> I recieved mail stating it must be converted using binhex 4.0. BJ0> I am not fimular with conversions. Found your address using BJ0> yahoo!. Check this instead: And while being at yahoo!, you should have browsed the software corner, because that's where the converters are. BJ0> Can you help me. No. You didn't state what operating system you're using and if you've ever installed a program from the net. BJ0> We have a Japanees student staying with us. This letter is from BJ0> her father. Would like to convert before she leaves for home BJ0> Sunday. Send more details, then we might be able to help. Note also that this is the wrong forum for your question. Robin -- Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept., Bonn University There comes a time when you put your lives Into the hands of the gods From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 1 21:09:22 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 21:09:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA32563 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 21:09:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA23771; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 21:09:15 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA21824; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 21:07:05 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA14486 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 21:06:03 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA07173 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 21:05:45 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:04:13 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:04:13 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Please Help ME! In-Reply-To: <34ABC17F.2530@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: SANDY SIMPLER X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, SANDY SIMPLER wrote: > I am VERY computer illertiate! I have AT&T Worldnet Service. I can't > open my attachments because I don't know how! I am hoping you will be > able to help me! Thank- You Are you using "pine" as your email program? From what I can see....it seems "not". Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 1 21:48:58 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 21:48:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA00046 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 21:48:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA24152; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 21:48:52 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA10562; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 21:46:54 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA17638 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 21:46:24 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA14748 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 21:46:24 -0800 Received: from post5.inre.asu.edu (post5.inre.asu.edu [129.219.10.175]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA24112 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 21:46:22 -0800 Received: from smtp1.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #24133) with ESMTP id <01IRVNUSR7Z28Y59L8@asu.edu> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 22:46:12 MST Received: from aztec.asu.edu (aztec2.asu.edu [129.219.129.221]) by smtp1.asu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA22242 for ; Thu, 01 Jan 1998 22:46:18 -0700 (MST) Received: by aztec.asu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18814; Thu, 01 Jan 1998 22:46:19 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <9801020546.AA18814@aztec.asu.edu> Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 22:46:19 -0700 (MST) Reply-To: klabis@aztec.asu.edu Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: klabis@aztec.asu.edu (SCOTT KLABIS) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: this is a recording (last changed May 23 1996)//cqcqcq! X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Friends: I am curious to know if Pine or Pico editing software will work in a Lynx page, or maybe in a Unix server. I am using a Macintosh LC at 6.0.8 with a Supra* 144LC modem at home with generally perfect emulation, at least off prime time, in AzTeC's "Chet's Editor" right now. I also have an account <125790.ef.smc.maricopa.edu> which is functional access to IRC, but currently disabled for unknown reason to send e-mail in. System administrators at SMC are re- luctant to say anything about their WWW connection, and AzTeC Computing apparently assumes most of the local load. My home screen comes from straight Kermit "Q" turnaround with 512 bit packages, and the Supra with no Netscape. The school (SMC) LAN consists of an assortment of Wyse terminals and CompacQ Pentium 386s. Any advise and/or software you could give on upgrades for text applications to this system would be most appreciated; SMC SysAdmin are and AT . yt, Scott A. Klabis, student SMC/SMCC / FCC:PG-GB-021435, , , <125790@ef.smc.maricopa.edu>. US West (602) 252-1951 / AzCom 306-0531. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 2 10:30:05 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 10:30:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA08944 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 10:30:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA21443; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 10:29:58 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA29877; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 10:25:10 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA21224 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 10:23:10 -0800 Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA01717 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 10:23:09 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id KAA18278; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 10:23:05 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 10:23:02 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David L Miller To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Mac version of pine?? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Justin Dews X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN How about MachTen? It's a commercial Unix clone for the Mac, but there is a Pine port available for it... -- David L. Miller | If toast always lands butter-side Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | down, and cats always land on Box 354841, University of Washington | their feet, what happen if you 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | strap toast on the back of a cat Phone: (206)685-6240 FAX: (206)685-4045 | and drop it? -- Steven Wright On Wed, 31 Dec 1997, Justin Dews wrote: > Good point, and I've thought of that, but this is an older mac and none of > the versions of NetBSD will run on it. And MkLinux and Linux for PMac > won't run because this machine isn't a pmac. ;-) > Oh well... > > Thanks, > > Justin > > On Wed, 31 Dec 1997, Drachen wrote: > > > > > Well, you could put linux on your mac :) > > > > > > On Tue, 30 Dec 1997, Justin Dews wrote: > > > > > First, I'd like to say that I am a new member of this list.OK, ok, I know > > > that on the pine webpages and stuff, they say that there is > > > no mac version of pine yet, but I'd really like to know if anyone is > > > working on a port of it to the Mac. I'm tired of using Eudora and then > > > getting on my shell and using pine. I want to use something simple yet > > > powerful on my mac also. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Justin > > > > > > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 2 17:03:57 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 17:03:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA15151 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 17:03:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA28562; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 17:03:23 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA22936; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 17:00:15 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA22076 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 16:58:29 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA26478 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 16:58:28 -0800 Received: from yarra.vicnet.net.au (yarra.vicnet.net.au [203.10.72.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA10050 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 16:58:25 -0800 Received: from rvib2.rvib.org.au (rvib2.rvib.org.au [203.3.138.1]) by yarra.vicnet.net.au (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id LAA09822 for <@yarra.vicnet.net.au:pine-info@cac.washington.edu>; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 11:56:57 +1100 (EST) Received: from rvib2.rvib.org.au by rvib2.rvib.org.au id aa14860; 3 Jan 98 11:59 AEST Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 11:59:13 +1000 (AEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Kalman DEE To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: can anyone help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I hope I'm sending this email to the right place as I would not want to send any junkmail. I'm having (or rather a blind client of ours as I work for the local Blind Institute ) a strange trouble. She is using Bitcom (DOS platform) to connect and access PINE.Everithing works swimmingly,except for in "Compose" all the lines of the header behave in a peculiar way. Let's say I want to type "blob" in the "To" headerline.When I type "b",nothing happens.Then I type "l",four characters appear,left arrow, left square bracket,the "at"character then the letter b.When Typing the next letter (o),similarly four characters appear,the three special ones then "l".that is,the letter I previosly typed. When I manipulate the line,for example with the Ctrl-Ll (refresh line), or with the Ctrl-K then Ctrl-U commands (cut then uncut text) everything reverts to normal,"blob" appears in the "To" line. Same with the other header entries. The body of the email itself causes no problems itself,it works perfectly normally. I repeat :THE HEADER AND THE BODY WORK DIFFERENTLY. Now,I've tried every reasonable configuration modifications in both PINE and Bitcom with no avail.The fault itself(even if peculiar) is not a great one for a sighted person,but she being blind and using screen vocalizing program (by the way the screen program is not the cause) the garbled text really confuses her. If anyone has a suggestion,please drop me an email. Cheers from Melbourne, Kal deeka@rvib2.rvib.org.a From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 2 17:13:07 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 17:13:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA15409 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 17:13:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA28776; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 17:13:00 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA28523; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 17:11:00 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA17368 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 17:09:49 -0800 Received: from gw.neads.com (gw.neads.com [207.60.76.18]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA22869 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 17:09:47 -0800 Received: from tlgm.neads.com ([207.60.76.62]) by gw.neads.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA07739; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 20:13:40 -0500 Message-Id: <34AD8F87.6B31@green.mv.com> Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 20:08:23 -0500 Reply-To: tlgm@green.mv.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "C. Wible" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Lock files in /var/spool/mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I recently upgraded to pine 3.95. Shortly after I realized that pine was complaining about creating lock files. I read some web listings of questions about this problem and found that the only suggestion was to change the permissions on the /var/spool/mail directory. That is all good, but, I dont like the idea of users being able to write files to that directory. I was wondering if sometime in the furure pine might include an option to specify a seperate lock directory. Cullin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 2 18:57:58 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 18:57:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA16303 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 18:57:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA29989; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 18:57:53 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA20421; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 18:55:37 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA21106 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 18:53:55 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA14839 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 18:53:54 -0800 Received: from mallard.duc.auburn.edu (mallard2.duc.auburn.edu [131.204.2.23]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id SAA11524 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 18:53:52 -0800 Received: from localhost by mallard.duc.auburn.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA19904; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 20:53:57 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 20:53:57 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Claude W Gossett To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: How to answer Planet All? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: gossecw@mallard X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Sirss: I have signed on to Planet All and have received messages which I am unable to answer as requested. One of the requests is to place an x in a box which identifies specific requests regarding services offered. What might I do to enable me to perform the operation? Your assistance will be appreciated. Thank you for your assistance: Claude Gossett From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 2 19:36:34 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 19:36:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA16646 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 19:36:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA00554; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 19:36:29 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA03260; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 19:34:17 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA28806 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 19:33:54 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id TAA19156 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 19:33:53 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 03 Jan 98 04:33:31 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA14261; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 04:34:47 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 03 Jan 1998 04:34:44 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How to answer Planet All? In-Reply-To: Claude W Gossett's message of "Fri, 2 Jan 1998 20:53:57 -0600 (CST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Claude W Gossett X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "CWG" == Claude W Gossett writes: CWG> I have signed on to Planet All and have received messages which CWG> I am unable to answer as requested. One of the requests is to CWG> place an x in a box which identifies specific requests regarding CWG> services offered. What might I do to enable me to perform the CWG> operation? Write to Planet All? Thy certainly have a customer support. Robin -- Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept., Bonn University Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 2 20:48:19 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 20:48:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA17280 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 20:48:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA01410; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 20:48:10 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA23575; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 20:46:19 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA15320 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 20:45:53 -0800 Received: from sundial.alumni.ust.hk (sundial.alumni.ust.hk [143.89.127.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA21433 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 20:45:50 -0800 Received: from localhost (koebi@localhost) by sundial.alumni.ust.hk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA20390; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 12:46:15 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 12:46:15 +0800 (HKT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Y M Kung Charles To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Lock files in /var/spool/mail In-Reply-To: <34AD8F87.6B31@green.mv.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "C. Wible" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi Cullin, I think you can set the sticky bit of your spool, my spool have the bit set. Charles On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, C. Wible wrote: > I recently upgraded to pine 3.95. Shortly after I realized that pine > was complaining about creating lock files. I read some web listings of > questions about this problem and found that the only suggestion was to > change the permissions on the /var/spool/mail directory. That is all > good, but, I dont like the idea of users being able to write files to > that directory. I was wondering if sometime in the furure pine might > include an option to specify a seperate lock directory. > > Cullin > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 3 03:52:22 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 03:52:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA21340 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 03:52:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA06179; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 03:52:15 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA13259; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 03:50:08 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA15302 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 03:49:39 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA12379 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 03:49:38 -0800 Received: from sangam.ncst.ernet.in (sangam.ncst.ernet.in [202.41.110.33]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA06130 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 03:49:19 -0800 Received: (from root@localhost) by sangam.ncst.ernet.in (8.7.5) id RAA20328 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 17:31:13 +0530 (GMT+05:30) Message-Id: <199801031201.RAA20328@sangam.ncst.ernet.in> >Received: by krcl.ernet.in; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/25Sep96-0432PM) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 17:15:10 +0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: vi1@krcl.ernet.in To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: assistance Content-Type: text X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN assitance From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 3 13:19:15 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 13:19:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA26394 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 13:19:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA26243; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 13:19:10 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA17436; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 13:15:58 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA15758 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 13:14:40 -0800 Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA15267 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 13:14:38 -0800 Received: from Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (weiner@tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.58]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id NAA18279; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 13:14:34 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 13:14:26 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mark Crispin To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Lock files in /var/spool/mail In-Reply-To: <34AD8F87.6B31@green.mv.com> References: <34AD8F87.6B31@green.mv.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "C. Wible" X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, C. Wible wrote: > I recently upgraded to pine 3.95. Shortly after I realized that pine > was complaining about creating lock files. I read some web listings of > questions about this problem and found that the only suggestion was to > change the permissions on the /var/spool/mail directory. That is all > good, but, I dont like the idea of users being able to write files to > that directory. I was wondering if sometime in the furure pine might > include an option to specify a seperate lock directory. That wouldn't be very useful. The whole purpose of the /var/spool/mail lock file is to lock against mail delivery. The mail delivery program looks for a /var/spool/mail lock file. If Pine used a different lock directory, then it wouldn't lock against mail delivery. Then wouldn't be any point for the locking code at all. You might as well just delete the useless locking code, and accept that every so often, your mail file will be smashed because Pine and mail delivery wrote the mail file at the same time. If you've hacked your mail delivery program source code to lock someplace else, then you can hack Pine source code to do the same thing. It should not be any easier (e.g. an option for a lock directory in Pine), otherwise people will be misled (as you were misled) to set that option without recognition of the consequences. You're really being protected from making a bad decision. It's a complicated issue; I wrote a document which goes into it in much more detail. I'll forward you a copy if you're interested. -- Mark -- * Unsolicited commercial email is NOT welcome at this email address. * Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 3 15:12:02 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:12:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA27218 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:12:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA27513; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:11:55 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA01850; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:09:23 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA19974 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:08:10 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA19125 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:08:06 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 07:07:32 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 07:07:32 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: assistance In-Reply-To: <199801031201.RAA20328@sangam.ncst.ernet.in> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: vi1@krcl.ernet.in X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 3 Jan 1998 vi1@krcl.ernet.in wrote: > assitance What type? In Taipei you dial 119 for emergency assistance or 104 for directory assistance. -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 3 15:18:57 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:18:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA27175 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:18:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA16194; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:18:52 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA02101; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:16:52 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA22784 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:15:54 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA21775 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:15:53 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA03078 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 17:14:42 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 17:14:42 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: assistance In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Edward M Greshko >Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 07:07:32 +0800 (GMT) >On Sat, 3 Jan 1998 vi1@krcl.ernet.in wrote: >>assitance >What type? >In Taipei you dial 119 for emergency assistance or 104 for directory >assistance. Spelling, which is ^t, by the way. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 3 15:24:17 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:24:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA27300 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:24:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA16258; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:24:11 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA02393; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:21:58 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA26280 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:21:39 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA19660 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:21:37 -0800 Received: from tornado.ocis.temple.edu (tornado.ocis.temple.edu [155.247.166.103]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA27621; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:21:31 -0800 Received: from localhost (tjdean@localhost) by tornado.ocis.temple.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA10187; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:21:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:21:30 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: Thomas J Dean Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Thomas J Dean To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Thanks, but no thanks, for the "improved" Pine 3.96 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine@cac.washington.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear People-at-Pine (assuming this gets through to you), I am getting more and more confused, and indeed upset, with the new "improved" system of Pine 3.96 which my university has installed to replace Pine 3.91. I wonder if my problems are unique. Here are just some of the reasons for my new confusions and irritations: 1. It would seem that someone has decided that it would be a vast improvement, in my previous "sent mail" folders, to erase all the names of the persons to whom I sent e-mail and replace each and every one of them with my own name. I don't suppose there is anyway to retrieve all that information. Absent that, assuming there is some way to erase own name and restore the names of the persons to who all that mail was sent, how would I do that? (Probable answer: don't ask, it can't be done.) Even if it could be done, it is a pain to think I have to go through each of them individually, find out to whom it was sent, and then somehow change it on the screen. But probably I should not worry. I'll wake up tomorrow and find out that in the meantime someone has simply erased all the sent mail folders (see 2. below). End of problem! 2. But wait, it gets worse. It now seems that mail I have sent out after January 1st (i.e., after the new system of Pine was up and running, I guess) is no longer even recorded in my sent mail folder, not even under my own name, let alone the names of recipients. Guess I didn't know I had it so good in 1. above, huh? I trust the messages are getting through, but it's anybody's guess. (Hence my question in the opening above whether you will even receive this one.) So where (if anywhere) is there a record of my sent mail NOW? (Probable answer: don't ask, it doesn't exist.) 3. Probably related to 2., I note that here is a new line now after "cc" on messages sent out, namely, "fcc". Now when I send out a letter an abbreviated name pops up automatically on "fcc". Not knowing or having been told what it is, I eliminate it each time. Why? Once I tried sending something without doing that, and when it found there was "no such file (with that person's name)", it simply refused to send the message. So I went back to eliminating the entry after "fcc", so at least the message could go out (though, since there is now no record, who knows if it REALLY went out). So what on earth is this "fcc" all about? Does it mean (related back to 2. above), that if I want to have a record of mail sent, I now have to create individual folders for each addressee to store my sent mail in, otherwise there will be no record of having sent it out? And if so, to check my sent mail, I have to go through each and every individual person's folder? I hope this is not so, because otherwise this vaunted improvement, Pine 3.96, has become an nightmare. Conclusion: Assuming not a whole lot can be done about this "improved system", perhaps I should switch, as my friends have been encouraging me to do, to EUDORA, since it would appear that my refusal to switch earlier from Pine to Eudora was based on misplaced loyalty to Pine. I guess Eudora must be the way to go from now on. That way I can simply circumvent this new "improved" version of Pine altogether. Idea: Perhaps, if my colleagues using Pine are suffering similar indignities, I should recommend that they switch to Eudora too. Perhaps we can persuade the university to just forget about Pine. Yep, that's what we should do. So, thanks for hearing me out. You've been a big help, really! Yours for even further "improvements" to Pine! Tom Dean P.S. I shall try to send a copy of this, as the "robot" advised, to the web discussion group at "comp.mail.pine". Perhaps THAT will get through, and perhaps THEY will be interested to know. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 3 15:32:17 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:32:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA27348 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:32:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA27714; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:32:11 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA02669; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:30:09 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA29182 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:29:53 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA22247 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:29:52 -0800 Received: from localhost (cjraven@localhost) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA21206 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 23:29:06 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:29:05 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: "Colin J. Raven" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Multiple .pinerc's spawned MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Group X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hey Ed? Robin? I found something odd that might attract your interest; Running Pine under AIX4.0, for no (known) reason, each time I invoke Pine, it spawns four pinerc's (not dot pinerc's) and with a letter following, then a five digit number. I stopped the problem (though I wish I really knew how) but wodered if you had ever seen/heard of Pine doing this. Like I said, it's gone away and I didn't follow any methodical troubleshooting method, just "thrashed around" in the users' home directory until Pine worked, and the spawning of pinerc's quit. Not the most scientific solution I know...any suggestions? -Colin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 3 15:32:33 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:32:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA27355 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:32:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA16321; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:32:28 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA02707; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:30:29 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA28988 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:30:14 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA16449 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:30:13 -0800 Received: from tornado.ocis.temple.edu (tornado.ocis.temple.edu [155.247.166.103]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA27694 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:30:10 -0800 Received: from localhost (tjdean@localhost) by tornado.ocis.temple.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA07744 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:30:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:30:09 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Thomas J Dean To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: getting a messsage to the world-wide "comp.mail.pine" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Pine-info: How does one get a message to the "comp.mail.pine" group? Via an e-mail address, or via a web address? I tried "http://www.comp.mail.pine" and that did not work. I tried "http://comp.mail.pine" and that did not work. Any suggestions or help greatly appreciated! T. D. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 3 15:36:39 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:36:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA27375 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:36:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA27761; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:36:34 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA02952; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:34:42 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA17308 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:34:22 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA22407 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:34:22 -0800 Received: from localhost (cjraven@localhost) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA21500 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 23:33:35 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:33:35 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Multiple .pinerc's spawned In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Oh yes, it's Pine 3.96 (like that makes any difference)... Oh and to all that say 3.96 has anything "wrong" with it...it doesn't! :) But...that's just my .02 cents' worth! -Colin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 3 15:46:39 1998 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:46:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA27442 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:46:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA27890; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:46:34 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA03311; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:44:27 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA24228 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:43:29 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA02958 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:43:27 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA03313 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 17:42:19 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 17:42:19 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: "Adam H. Kerman" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: getting a messsage to the world-wide "comp.mail.pine" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Thomas J Dean >Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:30:09 -0500 (EST) >How does one get a message to the "comp.mail.pine" group? Via an e-mail >address, No! >or via a web address? No! >I tried "http://www.comp.mail.pine" and >that did not work. I tried "http://comp.mail.pine" and that did not work. Of course not. "http" is the URL for "hypertext transport protocol", a method for viewing Web pages in your browser. comp.mail.pine is a newsgroup in Usenet, and Usenet has its own URL. >Any suggestions or help greatly appreciated! I take it you have the ability to post news articles through your Web browser. You clearly don't have a question about pine. My suggestion is, Don't ask an inappropriate question on the comp.mail.pine newsgroup! btw, this is the pine-info mailing list. People here are willing to answer questions about pine, hence the name of the list. If you ask a question that is asked repeatedly, the answer will be, "Read the context-sensitive help." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 16:08:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA27642 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 16:08:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA28131; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 16:08:45 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA04166; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 16:06:13 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA12624 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 16:05:58 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA03830 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 16:05:55 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA03513 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:04:46 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:04:46 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: "Adam H. Kerman" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Thanks, but no thanks, for the "improved" Pine 3.96 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Thomas J Dean >Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:21:30 -0500 (EST) > I am getting more and more confused, and indeed upset, with the >new "improved" system of Pine 3.96 which my university has installed to >replace Pine 3.91. I wonder if my problems are unique. Here are just some >of the reasons for my new confusions and irritations: STOP PANICKING. Relax, take a deep breath, control your own situation. > 1. It would seem that someone has decided that it would be a vast >improvement, in my previous "sent mail" folders, to erase all the names of >the persons to whom I sent e-mail and replace each and every one of them >with my own name. I don't suppose there is anyway to retrieve all that >information. All the information is still there. What probably happened was your system administrator got sick of all the complaints of the nature, "How come when I send mail (or news), the recipient's (or newsgroup's) name appears in the index, instead of my name?" and changed the setting in the system-wide configuration file. So, override it in your own configuration file! As an experienced pine user, you are familiar with the configuration file, right? You are familiar with reading the context-sensitive help, right? 3.96 has many additional features. Look at the configuration file, and if there is a feature you don't understand or don't recognize, read the context-sensitive help. It's that simple. The feature that was changed is "index-format", and the FROMORTO token was replaced with FROM. Read the context-sensitive help with this feature, and choose the tokens that best suit your needs. > 2. But wait, it gets worse. It now seems that mail I have sent >out after January 1st (i.e., after the new system of Pine was up and >running, I guess) is no longer even recorded in my sent mail folder, not >even under my own name, let alone the names of recipients. You did this yourself, as you explain in 3. > 3. Probably related to 2., I note that here is a new line now >after "cc" on messages sent out, namely, "fcc". Now when I send out a >letter an abbreviated name pops up automatically on "fcc". Not knowing or >having been told what it is, I eliminate it each time. Why? Once I tried >sending something without doing that, and when it found there was "no such >file (with that person's name)", it simply refused to send the message. >So I went back to eliminating the entry after "fcc", so at least the >message could go out (though, since there is now no record, who knows if >it REALLY went out). > So what on earth is this "fcc" all about? Does it mean (related >back to 2. above), that if I want to have a record of mail sent, I now >have to create individual folders for each addressee to store my sent mail >in, otherwise there will be no record of having sent it out? And if so, >to check my sent mail, I have to go through each and every individual >person's folder? "fcc" means "file carbon copy", which has been a feature of pine since the beginning. You may not have noticed it before, as it may have been a rich header, not revealed until you press ^r. If you want to know about it, READ THE CONTEXT-SENSITIVE HELP. It is simply a way of saving a copy of an outgoing message on your own system. Even if you are able to save a sent message, it hasn't necessarily left your system due to other problems. You don't know unless your recipient tells you he actually received it. If you continuously delete the "fcc" line, your message won't be saved anywhere. In the context-sensitive help, read about "customized-hdrs" and "fcc-name-rule" from the configuration file. Also, read the context-sensitive help in the address book for naming customized sent-mail folders for specific correspondents. And, read about "folder-collections" from the configuration file and the List folders screen. > I hope this is not so, because otherwise this vaunted improvement, >Pine 3.96, has become an nightmare. > Conclusion: > Assuming not a whole lot can be done about this "improved system", >perhaps I should switch, as my friends have been encouraging me to do, to >EUDORA, since it would appear that my refusal to switch earlier from Pine >to Eudora was based on misplaced loyalty to Pine. Well, if you refuse to read the help text or learn the program, you won't have any greater satisfaction with Eudora. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 16:14:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA27675 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 16:14:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA28192; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 16:14:43 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA04604; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 16:12:49 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA26192 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 16:12:19 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA08151 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 16:12:18 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA13798; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 00:11:28 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 16:11:28 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: getting a messsage to the world-wide "comp.mail.pine" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Adam H. Kerman" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN If I may interject a small suggestion here, Since Pine is also a mail reader, perhaps the esteemed list member could access "L" (Folder List) then travel down to "New Collection" and follow menu prompts from there onwards. entering comp.mail when prompted for groups to search for will immediately access comp.mail.pine, along with other interesting newsgroups that relate to mail programs out there. Just a suggestion, which would get the reader to the resource he wants, while *still using* the resources of this list. Regards to all, and best wishes for a "Great '98"! -Colin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 16:55:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA27898 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 16:55:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA17189; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 16:55:33 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA25963; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 16:52:50 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA15900 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 16:52:30 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id QAA05310 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 16:52:27 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 04 Jan 98 01:52:04 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA09553; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 01:51:11 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 04 Jan 1998 01:51:10 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Thanks, but no thanks, for the "improved" Pine 3.96 In-Reply-To: Thomas J Dean's message of "Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:21:30 -0500 (EST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Thomas J Dean X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "TJD" == Thomas J Dean whined: [Thomas J. Dean has new confusions and irritations] TJD> 1. It would seem that someone has decided that it would be a vast TJD> improvement, in my previous "sent mail" folders, to erase all the TJD> names of the persons to whom I sent e-mail and replace each and TJD> every one of them with my own name. That's a FAQ, Thomas. TJD> 2. It now seems that mail I have sent out after January 1st TJD> (i.e., after the new system of Pine was up and running, I guess) TJD> is no longer even recorded in my sent mail folder, not even TJD> under my own name, let alone the names of recipients. That's a FAQ, Thomas. TJD> 3. Probably related to 2., I note that here is a new line now TJD> after "cc" on messages sent out, namely, "fcc". So what on TJD> earth is this "fcc" all about? That's a FAQ, Thomas. TJD> Conclusion: Assuming not a whole lot can be done about this TJD> "improved system", perhaps I should switch, as my friends have TJD> been encouraging me to do, to EUDORA, since it would appear that TJD> my refusal to switch earlier from Pine to Eudora was based on TJD> misplaced loyalty to Pine. I guess Eudora must be the way to go TJD> from now on. Absolutely correct, Thomas. Eudora is much simpler to use, the knowledge base of the people supporting it on the net is much higher, and commercial software is always better than free software. TJD> Idea: Perhaps, if my colleagues using Pine are suffering similar TJD> indignities, I should recommend that they switch to Eudora too. Yes, please do that, Thomas. TJD> Perhaps we can persuade the university to just forget about TJD> Pine. Yep, that's what we should do. Correct, Thomas. "Heute die Uni und morgen die ganze Welt." TJD> You've been a big help, really! Yours for even further TJD> "improvements" to Pine! Thomas? Are you there? Have you talked to some professional about your problems yet? You know, it's not that we don't like you... It's just that you have this attitude problem that makes reading your larmoyant drivel really, really revolting. TJD> I shall try to send a copy of this, as the "robot" advised, to TJD> the web discussion group at "comp.mail.pine". Perhaps THAT will TJD> get through, and perhaps THEY will be interested to know. Great idea, Thomas. Please do that. I will gladly provide you with some more in-depth information about your attitude problem there. However, since this is a mailing list that is read by kind and helpful people, I'll spare you for now. See you on the usenet, Thomas. Don't forget to wear an asbestos suit. Robin -- Robin S. Socha This message brought to you by Microsoft. Inventors of multitasking, windowing, graphical user interfaces, the 32 bit OS, the Internet, the wheel, fire, air, and God. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 17:24:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA28233 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 17:24:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA17507; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 17:23:58 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA12418; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 17:21:38 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA21278 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 17:19:56 -0800 Received: from dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA23671 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 17:19:52 -0800 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA27667 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:19:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from lap-ca10-05.ix.netcom.com(206.214.145.197) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma027075; Sat Jan 3 19:16:44 1998 Message-Id: <34AEE2CA.76A3298F@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 17:15:55 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: chuck bravo To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Minors name change. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN What would it take to have a mother change her daughters last name? Would she have to consult the father with the name that she wants to change? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 17:25:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA28208 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 17:24:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA17522; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 17:24:55 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA27014; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 17:22:39 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA26156 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 17:22:25 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id RAA25536 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 17:22:24 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 04 Jan 98 02:22:02 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA09874; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 02:00:15 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 04 Jan 1998 02:00:12 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Multiple .pinerc's spawned In-Reply-To: "Colin J. Raven"'s message of "Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:29:05 -0800 (PST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Colin J. Raven" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "CJR" == Colin J Raven writes: CJR> Hey Ed? Robin? Here, here! CJR> I found something odd that might attract your interest; Running Pine CJR> under AIX4.0, for no (known) reason, each time I invoke Pine CJR> [...] Well, you gave the answer yourself. I don't know of any reason why one should run Pine und AIX. Install Linux. Problem solved. KeWL, huh? Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept., Bonn University main(){printf(&unix["\021%six\012\0"],(unix)["have"]+"fun"-0x60);} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:38:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA28687 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:38:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA29860; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:38:37 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA10474; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:36:08 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA22054 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:34:26 -0800 Received: from tornado.ocis.temple.edu (tornado.ocis.temple.edu [155.247.166.103]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA22249 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:34:25 -0800 Received: from localhost (tjdean@localhost) by tornado.ocis.temple.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA13148; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 21:34:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 21:34:16 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Thomas J Dean To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: your reply In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Thomas J Dean , Pine Discussion Forum , X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Robin, Many thanks for matching my sarcastic attitude! At least it was a response from a real person, not the "robot" However, you might also be interested in the following reply from Steve Lowe which managed to overlook or see past my attitude problem and offer some real help (though I will have to get help to figure out how to look at something called the ".pinerc file"). Meantime, as to your response, I did look at the FAQ and did find an answer to one of my questions. But I was not successful in finding answers to the others, or if they were there, I was unable to recognize them (you're probably not surprised by that). So, what you could do to also be of real help, if you're so inclined, in addition to simply "agreeing" with each of my ill-tempered remarks, would be to tell me WHICH of the FAQ's (which I note were numbered) answer each of my problems. If you're not so inclined, I can't say as I blame you. Hoping (beyond hope?), Tom ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 18:36:09 -0600 From: Steve Lowe To: Thomas J Dean Subject: Re: Thanks, but no thanks, for the "improved" Pine 3.96 Thomas -- As a data center manager, we have made the transition several times over the past three years to different versions of Pine. We have not noticed the problems that you outlined in your message. I can only one of them--the 'fcc' line. 'fcc' indicates the default mail folder where your sent mail is stored -- might be related to the disappearing copies of your sent mail. Pine 3.96 allows the user to store his outgoing mail messages in any folder that he/she desires. If the folder does not exist, Pine 3.96 will prompt you for folder creation. I would check your .pinerc file and ensure that extra characters have not been added to the default sent mail folder entry. This might clear up your problem. HTH. -- Steve Lowe Director, Computing and Information Services Aurora University --------------------------------------------------- On 4 Jan 1998, Robin S. Socha wrote: > >> "TJD" == Thomas J Dean whined: [He sure did! :=) ] > [Thomas J. Dean has new confusions and irritations] > TJD> 1. It would seem that someone has decided that it would be a vast > TJD> improvement, in my previous "sent mail" folders, to erase all the > TJD> names of the persons to whom I sent e-mail and replace each and > TJD> every one of them with my own name. > > That's a FAQ, Thomas. [Which one, Robin; and, how do I get all the original names of the addressees back?] > > TJD> 2. It now seems that mail I have sent out after January 1st > TJD> (i.e., after the new system of Pine was up and running, I guess) > TJD> is no longer even recorded in my sent mail folder, not even > TJD> under my own name, let alone the names of recipients. > > That's a FAQ, Thomas. [Which one, bitte?] > > TJD> 3. Probably related to 2., I note that here is a new line now > TJD> after "cc" on messages sent out, namely, "fcc". So what on > TJD> earth is this "fcc" all about? > > That's a FAQ, Thomas. [I think Steve has helped with this one.] > Thomas? Are you there? Have you talked to some professional about your > problems yet? [Well, that's sort of what I was hoping for from YOU professionals ...sigh] > You know, it's not that we don't like you... It's just > that you have this attitude problem that makes reading your larmoyant > drivel really, really revolting. [Assuming you do in fact speak for "we", I am properly chastised.] > Great idea, Thomas. Please do that. I will gladly provide you with some > more in-depth information about your attitude problem there. However, > since this is a mailing list that is read by kind and helpful people, > I'll spare you for now. See you on the usenet, Thomas. Don't forget to > wear an asbestos suit. [If this singeing is any example, ouch!] > Robin S. Socha > This message brought to you by Microsoft. Inventors of multitasking, > windowing, graphical user interfaces, the 32 bit OS, the Internet, the > wheel, fire, air, and God. [Well, I don't know about all of the above, but I sure felt that hot breath of fire! Here's hoping for more Steve's and fewer Robin's--and then fewer me's. Dare I hope?] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:41:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA28733 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:41:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA18445; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:41:52 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA00520; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:39:47 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA26340 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:38:49 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA26394 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:38:44 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 10:38:04 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 10:38:04 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: assistance In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Adam H. Kerman" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > Spelling, which is ^t, by the way. It is *very* bad form to comment on anyone's spelling errors. This is especially true when the message is from a person's whose native language is not "English". Regards -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:49:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA28783 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:49:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA29979; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:49:00 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA00807; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:47:13 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA26162 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:46:07 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA09140 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 18:46:04 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 10:45:54 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 10:45:54 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Minors name change. In-Reply-To: <34AEE2CA.76A3298F@ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: chuck bravo X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, chuck bravo wrote: > What would it take to have a mother change her daughters last name? > Would she have to consult the father with the name that she wants to > change? Talk to a lawyer. BTW, please tell us how you came upon the pine-info mailing list and what prompted you to ask your question here. We keep getting these questions about changing names....and pine is an email program. Go figure. -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:54:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA29207 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:54:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA00843; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:54:27 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA12795; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:51:57 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA25004 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:50:53 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id TAA24535 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:50:52 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 04 Jan 98 04:50:29 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA10833; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 04:35:24 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 04 Jan 1998 04:35:24 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: assistance In-Reply-To: Edward M Greshko's message of "Sun, 4 Jan 1998 10:38:04 +0800 (GMT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edward M Greshko X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "EMG" == Edward M Greshko writes: EMG> On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >> Spelling, which is ^t, by the way. EMG> It is *very* bad form to comment on anyone's spelling errors. Ed, your vary rite! spelling flame [USENET] n. A posting ostentatiously correcting a previous article's spelling as a way of casting scorn on the point the article was trying to make, instead of actually responding to that point (compare dictionary flame). Of course, people who are more than usually slovenly spellers are prone to think *any* correction is a spelling flame. It's an amusing comment on humAn nature that spelling flames themselves often contain spelling errors. EMG> This is especially true when the message is from a person's whose EMG> native language is not "English". Zis iz vary tru! Robin P.S. Needless to say that Adam is right and Ed is wrong. Why? Dunno... -- Robin S. Socha The spaceship shuddered. Captain Wilson saw his navigator cringing from a suddenly blue screen. Damn it. If they survived this, a certain Redmond, USA, earth would find itself in hot plasma... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:55:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA29214 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:55:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA19372; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:55:12 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA12870; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:52:59 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA16076 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:50:56 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id TAA15347 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:50:54 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 04 Jan 98 04:50:31 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA10761; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 04:24:38 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 04 Jan 1998 04:24:38 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: your reply In-Reply-To: Thomas J Dean's message of "Sat, 3 Jan 1998 21:34:16 -0500 (EST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Thomas J Dean X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "TJD" == Thomas J Dean writes: TJD> Robin, Many thanks for matching my sarcastic attitude! Good to see you have a sense of humour. ]:-> TJD> I will have to get help to figure out how to look at something called TJD> the ".pinerc file"). You know pico, the editor you write your emails with. Yes, it's a stand-alone app, too. So say: pico ~/.pinerc to edit your personal pine configuration file. But say cp ~/.pinerc ~/pinerc.sic first. [...] TJD> 1998, Robin S. Socha wrote: >> "TJD" == Thomas J Dean wrote: >> [Thomas J. Dean has new confusions and irritations] TJD> "sent mail" >> That's a FAQ, Thomas. TJD> [Which one, Robin; and, how do I get all the original names of TJD> the addressees back?] "Why does my message index show From: instead of To:?" No, wait. I suck. You're right - that's abnormal. I just checked. Ummm... HELP! Are you sure you didn't change anything with your mail folders? From a short glance at pine, I cannot even begin to understand how this could happen. You could say "less" on one of the folders to check if they're ok. TJD> 2. It now seems that mail I have sent out after January 1st TJD> is no longer even recorded in my sent mail folder, not even under TJD> my own name, let alone the names of recipients. >> That's a FAQ, Thomas. TJD> [Which one, bitte?] I don't know. It should be one. Whatever... You need to set default-saved-msg-folder = in M(ain) S(etup) C(onfig). From the online help: OPTION: Default-Saved-Msg-Folder This option determines the default folder name for Saves... If this is not a path name, it will be in the default collection for saves. Any valid folder specification, local or IMAP, is allowed. This default folder only applies when the saved-msg-name-rule (see later in this configuration screen) doesn't override it. Unix Pine default is normally "saved-messages" in the default folder collection. PC-Pine default is "SAVEMAIL" (normally stored as SAVEMAIL.MTX) FOR MORE INFORMATION: From the Main Menu, select "L FOLDER LIST" and press "?" for Help... Look for the section "Valid Folder Names". Make sure that one is properly set and that your admin didn't set them to something weird. >> Thomas? Are you there? Have you talked to some professional about >> your problems yet? TJD> [Well, that's sort of what I was hoping for from YOU professionals TJD> ....sigh] I'm not a professional. I'm just... errr... I was... Shoot. I've been a professional for three days now. Oh dear... TJD> [Well, I don't know about all of the above, but I sure felt that TJD> hot breath of fire! Here's hoping for more Steve's and fewer TJD> Robin's--and then fewer me's. Dare I hope?] No. Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept., Bonn University One question: How come the .44 magnum is the worlds only usable point and click interface ? Alan Cox From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 21:07:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA29949 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 21:07:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA01814; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 21:07:52 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA05627; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 21:05:29 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA15836 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 21:04:20 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA17775 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 21:04:17 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 13:04:11 +0800 Message-Id: <34af184b48c3004@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 13:04:12 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ed Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: assistance Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: robin@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Robin, > P.S. Needless to say that Adam is right and Ed is wrong. Why? Dunno... I think this is similar to the laws of physics, which are extremely hard to violate. Rule #45104 - Ed is always wrong. :-) Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 21:13:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA29985 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 21:13:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA20494; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 21:13:41 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA05836; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 21:11:47 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA16990 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 21:10:52 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA27060 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 21:10:50 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 13:10:46 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 13:10:45 +0800 (GMT) Reply-To: Edward M Greshko Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: TO: "assistance" needing person MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear vi1@krcl.ernet.in.... Everytime I send an email to you I get back a "blank" message. If you want folks to correspond with you you should try getting that fixed. Regards, -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 03:04:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA00867 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 03:04:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA07516; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 03:04:06 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA23823; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 03:02:00 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA17166 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 03:00:08 -0800 Received: from shivax.cac.washington.edu (shivax.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.4]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA02307 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 03:00:07 -0800 Received: (from skramer@localhost) by shivax.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) id DAA29344 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 03:00:06 -0800 Message-Id: <199801041100.DAA29344@shivax.cac.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 03:00:06 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: pine-robot@docserver.cac.washington.edu To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: WHERE TO FIND INFORMATION ABOUT PINE X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is being sent to this mailing list weekly in order to aid readers in finding information about Pine. Before sending questions to the mailing list, please consult these resources: The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive help. Additional information, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, Questions & Answers, where to obtain the Pine software, what tools are available to perform tasks that Pine itself does not, and more, can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form. - The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[] The messages from this mailing list are archived. 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If you have a question about Pine, chances are it has been asked before and you can find the answer either through the searchable index of past messages, or among the "Questions & Answers" at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/ or ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt If you need personal assistance with using or configuring Pine, contact the technical support staff or computer help desk of YOUR Internet Service Provider, school, university, employer, ... -- whichever organization provided you with the email account on which you are using, or planning on using, Pine. Because system functions and configuration can vary from site to site, they are best qualified to assist you. (Due to the large number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington cannot provide individual support services to Pine users at other organizations.) Sun Jan 4 03:00:06 PST 1998 ----------------------------------- Pine development and support team University of Washington Computing & Communications ----------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 06:55:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA03764 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 06:55:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA00920; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 06:55:25 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA17237; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 06:53:35 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA12302 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 06:52:29 -0800 Received: from tornado.ocis.temple.edu (tornado.ocis.temple.edu [155.247.166.103]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA01029 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 06:52:27 -0800 Received: from localhost (tjdean@localhost) by tornado.ocis.temple.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA32387; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 09:52:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 09:52:16 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Thomas J Dean To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: your reply In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Thomas J Dean , Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Robin, Many thanks for bearing with me and helping out with the below. I am beginning to suspect that, as you say, the problem may lie with how the local admin installed things when they did the conversion from 3.91 to 3.96 over the holidays. And since I don't understand all the technical aspects you refer to below, I think my best course of action is to take all these problems back to the local folks and see what they make of it all. They should be back from New Year's break tomorrow. Fingers crossed! (Final word at end of following...) On 4 Jan 1998, Robin S. Socha wrote: > > TJD> I will have to get help to figure out how to look at something called > TJD> the ".pinerc file"). > > You know pico, the editor you write your emails with. Yes, it's a > stand-alone app, too. So say: > pico ~/.pinerc > to edit your personal pine configuration file. But say > cp ~/.pinerc ~/pinerc.sic > first. > > TJD> "sent mail" > >> That's a FAQ, Thomas. > TJD> [Which one, Robin; and, how do I get all the original names of > TJD> the addressees back?] > > > "Why does my message index show From: instead of To:?" > > No, wait. I suck. You're right - that's abnormal. I just > checked. Ummm... HELP! Are you sure you didn't change anything with > your mail folders? From a short glance at pine, I cannot even begin to > understand how this could happen. You could say "less" on one of the > folders to check if they're ok. > > TJD> 2. It now seems that mail I have sent out after January 1st > TJD> is no longer even recorded in my sent mail folder, not even under > TJD> my own name, let alone the names of recipients. > >> That's a FAQ, Thomas. > TJD> [Which one, bitte?] > > I don't know. It should be one. Whatever... You need to set > default-saved-msg-folder = > in M(ain) S(etup) C(onfig). From the online help: > > OPTION: Default-Saved-Msg-Folder > This option determines the default folder name for Saves... If > this is not a path name, it will be in the default collection for > saves. Any valid folder specification, local or IMAP, is allowed. > This default folder only applies when the saved-msg-name-rule (see > later in this configuration screen) doesn't override it. Unix > Pine default is normally "saved-messages" in the default folder > collection. PC-Pine default is "SAVEMAIL" (normally stored as > SAVEMAIL.MTX) > FOR MORE INFORMATION: From the Main Menu, select "L FOLDER LIST" and > press "?" for Help... Look for the section "Valid Folder Names". > > Make sure that one is properly set and that your admin didn't set them > to something weird. > > >> Thomas? Are you there? Have you talked to some professional about > >> your problems yet? > TJD> [Well, that's sort of what I was hoping for from YOU professionals > TJD> ....sigh] > > I'm not a professional. I'm just... errr... I was... Shoot. I've been > a professional for three days now. Oh dear... > > TJD> [Well, I don't know about all of the above, but I sure felt that > TJD> hot breath of fire! Here's hoping for more Steve's and fewer > TJD> Robin's--and then fewer me's. Dare I hope?] > No. [Robin, Good! I take it back. Let's have lots more Steve's AND Robin's--and perhaps you'll let me hang around a bit longer too!] Cheers and Happy New Year to Robin and ALL the Pine gang! Tom From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 14:20:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA07846 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 14:20:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA09248; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 14:20:32 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA02230; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 14:18:25 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA23180 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 14:17:08 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA15745 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 14:17:07 -0800 Received: from molbio.usc.edu (molbio.usc.edu [128.125.56.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA09186 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 14:17:05 -0800 Received: from localhost (leeflang@localhost) by molbio.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id OAA04387 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 14:16:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 14:16:59 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Esther P. Leeflang" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Pine Person, I've been using Pine for some time now. Recently my messages have become "Read Only", and are not deletable. Is this something you can help me with, or do I need to contact my system's administrator? Thanks for your help. Sincerely, Esther P. Leeflang leeflang@molbio.usc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 20:52:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA12517 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 20:52:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA26726; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 20:52:35 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA16950; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 20:50:08 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA28820 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 20:46:18 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA05481 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 20:46:17 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA35668; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 04:45:16 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 20:45:16 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Multiple .pinerc's spawned In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi All! Y'Know, we never did address Pine's odd behavior in suddenly spawning multiple pinerc's. As I mentioned before, any suggestions as to how thos peculiar behavior began would be welcome. -Colin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 21:59:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA13203 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 21:59:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA27665; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 21:59:09 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA21305; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 21:57:13 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA13786 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 21:56:00 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA01489 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 21:55:57 -0800 Received: from giascl01.vsnl.net.in (giascl01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.9.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id VAA17730 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 21:55:51 -0800 Received: by giascl01.vsnl.net.in; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/27May97-1036AM) id AA23984; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 11:29:45 GMT Message-Id: <9801051129.AA23984@giascl01.vsnl.net.in> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 11:29:45 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: INDICA RESEARCH PVT LTD To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: binary files X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: asquare@giascla.vsnl.net.in X-Url: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/96.01/msg00021.html X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Sir, i have downloaded Internet Explorer from the Net. There is one 4MB file having extension '.bin'. I do not know how to extract the original file. Please help me out. S.Huq From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 03:23:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA16645 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 03:23:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA22758; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 03:23:14 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA27819; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 03:13:22 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA15404 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 03:12:01 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA10917 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 03:11:59 -0800 Received: from proxy.jet.es (proxy.jet.es [194.179.100.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA22581 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 03:11:55 -0800 Received: from business.co-de.com (business.co-de.com [194.224.183.9]) by proxy.jet.es (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22055 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 11:13:39 -0100 (GMT) Received: (from sochoa@localhost) by business.co-de.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA22134; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:12:03 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:12:03 +0100 (GMT+0100) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Sergio Ochoa To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: tcp/ip on windows 3.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I have installed the tcp/ip stack on a win 3.11. The problem is that I want to compart the HD of a Linux (server of the ethernet). What kind of Lan's support do I have to put in the configuration of the tcp/ip (on win 3.11) to recognize my ethernet? Do I have to use SAMBA? Do I need a SAMBA client for win 3.11? Where can I find it? Can You help me? Thanks Sergio Ochoa From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 04:31:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA18186 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 04:31:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA23926; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 04:31:52 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA08264; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 04:26:51 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA26146 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 04:25:28 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA15989 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 04:25:26 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 20:24:54 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 20:24:54 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: binary files In-Reply-To: <9801051129.AA23984@giascl01.vsnl.net.in> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: INDICA RESEARCH PVT LTD X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, INDICA RESEARCH PVT LTD wrote: > i have downloaded Internet Explorer from the Net. There is one > 4MB file having extension '.bin'. I do not know how to extract the > original file. Please help me out. Wrong group.... Contact Bill Gates. -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 04:33:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA18181 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 04:33:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA03908; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 04:32:58 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA08316; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 04:29:27 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA28514 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 04:28:25 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA18380 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 04:28:23 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 20:27:19 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 20:27:18 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: tcp/ip on windows 3.11 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Sergio Ochoa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Sergio Ochoa wrote: > What kind of Lan's support do I have to put in the configuration of the > tcp/ip (on win 3.11) to recognize my ethernet? Depends on whose TCP/IP implementation you are using. Contact the vendor. > Do I have to use SAMBA? Do I need a SAMBA client for win 3.11? Where can > I find it? Depends on what you want do to... > Can You help me? Probably not....you've stumbled onto the wrong group for your questions. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 10:00:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA23466 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 10:00:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA01240; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 10:00:39 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA23825; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:55:51 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA18934 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:54:11 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id JAA23621 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:54:05 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 05 Jan 98 18:53:41 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25982; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 18:54:42 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 05 Jan 1998 18:54:38 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pine In-Reply-To: "Esther P. Leeflang"'s message of "Sun, 4 Jan 1998 14:16:59 -0800 (PST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Esther P. Leeflang" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "EPL" == Esther P Leeflang writes: EPL> I've been using Pine for some time now. Recently my messages have EPL> become "Read Only", and are not deletable. Is this something you EPL> can help me with, or do I need to contact my system's administrator? Say this: ps -ax | grep pine If more than one instance of pine is running, kill it by saying kill where pid is the number ps gives you. You can only run one session at a time, otherwise will will create read-only sessions. HTH, Robin -- Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept., Bonn University Vidi, vici, veni From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 10:02:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA23487 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 10:02:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA10984; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 10:02:33 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA24044; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:57:39 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA21058 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:55:33 -0800 Received: from casabyte.com (smtp.seattlesoft.com [38.226.62.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id JAA03984 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:55:32 -0800 Received: from smtp by casabyte.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA03629; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:51:13 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:51:13 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Andrew Le To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: binhex 4.0 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ben Jen 01 X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: andrew@smtp X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Find someone w/ a Mac and use BinHex program on that to convert it... On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Ben Jen 01 wrote: > I recieved mail stating it must be converted using binhex 4.0. I am not > fimular with conversions. Found your address using yahoo!. Can you help me. > > We have a Japanees student staying with us. This letter is from her father. > Would like to convert before she leaves for home Sunday. > > Thanx. > Andrew Le (425) 271-9410 phone Casabyte LLC http://www.casabyte.com Managing networks under one roof. ------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:52:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA27581 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:52:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA06163; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:52:42 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA29418; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:49:49 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA16152 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:48:28 -0800 Received: from fw.loho.com (fw.loho.com [205.142.31.50]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id MAA19603 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:48:23 -0800 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by fw.loho.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA26059 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:48:18 -0500 Received: from unknown(192.0.0.149) by fw.loho.com via smap (V1.3) id sma026055; Mon Jan 5 15:48:01 1998 Received: by loho.com with NT SMTP Gateway ver 31 id <34B1497B@loho.com>; Mon, 05 Jan 98 15:58:35 E Message-Id: <34B1497B@loho.com> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 98 15:43:00 E Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Randi Bagley To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Name Change form X-To: "'pine-info@u.washington.edu'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN If there is a form available for use by a self-representing citizen to change his/her name on their own, could you please point me in the right direction. Lawyers quote very expensive rates for something that seems as if it should be "fill-in-the-blanks" easy. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 14:20:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA29778 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 14:20:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA18728; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 14:19:58 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA14494; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 14:16:50 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA26586 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 14:15:25 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA19109 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 14:15:19 -0800 Received: from ops_svr (ip20.irvine.quik.com [207.38.102.20]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA23422 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 22:14:26 GMT Message-Id: <009b01bd19e3$dfac3f00$1f6626cf@ops_svr> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 14:10:55 -0000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Name Change form MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I now have to begin seriously wondering where all this name change stuff stems from. Is there a Search Engine weird link thing that causes a simple query "Name+Change" to somehow return a value of Pine Discussion Group?? When this happened the first (six? eight?) times I thought it might have been word of mouth...but now??? Anyone got any ideas how this crap winds up here? Better still, how do we change this? -Colin -----Original Message----- From: Randi Bagley To: Pine Discussion Forum Date: Monday, January 05, 1998 8:57 PM Subject: Name Change form > >If there is a form available for use by a self-representing citizen to >change his/her name on their own, could you please point me in the right >direction. Lawyers quote very expensive rates for something that seems >as if it should be "fill-in-the-blanks" easy. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:37:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA31438 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:37:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA10992; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:37:28 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA20149; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:33:40 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA16596 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:32:28 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA26771 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:32:25 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA32029 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 17:31:19 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 17:31:19 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Name Change form In-Reply-To: <009b01bd19e3$dfac3f00$1f6626cf@ops_svr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: "Colin J. Raven" >Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 14:10:55 -0000 >I now have to begin seriously wondering where all this name change stuff >stems from. I sent Randi a message asking her, and she sent back a nasty reply, saying I wasn't "friendly". Perhaps Robin could be friendlier than I. She said she used yahoo, but didn't tell me what her search criterion was. This list is archived, and the archives aren't hidden from search engines. My guess is that the more inappropriate questions we get on this topic, the higher this mailing list will score, in a geometric progression. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:49:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA31738 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:49:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA11325; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:49:45 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA21006; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:46:31 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA28380 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:45:24 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA11449 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:45:20 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 07:44:42 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 07:44:41 +0800 (GMT) Reply-To: Edward M Greshko Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Name Change form In-Reply-To: <34B1497B@loho.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Randi Bagley X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Randi Bagley wrote: > If there is a form available for use by a self-representing citizen to > change his/her name on their own, could you please point me in the right > direction. Lawyers quote very expensive rates for something that seems > as if it should be "fill-in-the-blanks" easy. Please tell us why you send to this list? We are trying to track down how people come to the conclusion that your type of question should be directed here. Your assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time. -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 16:47:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA00338 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 16:47:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA12820; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 16:47:19 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA24592; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 16:44:27 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA24380 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 16:43:11 -0800 Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA11940 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 16:43:09 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id QAA15044; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 16:43:04 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 16:43:02 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David L Miller To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Multiple .pinerc's spawned In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Colin J. Raven" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Colin J. Raven wrote: > I found something odd that might attract your interest; > Running Pine under AIX4.0, for no (known) reason, each time I invoke Pine, > it spawns four pinerc's (not dot pinerc's) and with a letter following, > then a five digit number. Those are the temp files that Pine writes when updating your .pinerc file. If an error occurs during the write (e.g. out of disk space) the temp file is abandoned, otherwise it is renamed to .pinerc... -- David L. Miller | Everything has been figured out, Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | except how to live. -- Jean-Paul Box 354841, University of Washington | Sartre 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | Phone: (206)685-6240 FAX: (206)685-4045 | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 20:56:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA03749 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 20:56:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA17046; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 20:56:28 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA12250; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 20:53:39 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA22884 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 20:52:15 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA23577 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 20:52:14 -0800 Received: from ops_svr (ip110.anaheim.quik.com [207.38.102.110]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA16022; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 04:51:11 GMT Message-Id: <004201bd1a1b$4cedbd50$6e6626cf@ops_svr> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 20:48:14 -0000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Name Change form MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Adam H. Kerman" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ouch! that's richly bizarre isn't it? I'll have to do a search and see what happens. I can hardly wait for Robin's take on this subject Adam, it should be somewhat enlightening. Robin??? Would you care to step up to the podium for a moment and share your thoughts with us? -----Original Message----- From: Adam H. Kerman To: Pine Discussion Forum Date: Monday, January 05, 1998 11:47 PM Subject: Re: Name Change form >>From: "Colin J. Raven" >>Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 14:10:55 -0000 > >>I now have to begin seriously wondering where all this name change stuff >>stems from. > >I sent Randi a message asking her, and she sent back a nasty reply, saying I >wasn't "friendly". Perhaps Robin could be friendlier than I. > >She said she used yahoo, but didn't tell me what her search criterion was. > >This list is archived, and the archives aren't hidden from search engines. My >guess is that the more inappropriate questions we get on this topic, the higher >this mailing list will score, in a geometric progression. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 05:20:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA09860 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 05:20:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA02881; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 05:20:47 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA25761; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 05:16:35 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA18928 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 05:15:26 -0800 Received: from jeeves.egr.msu.edu (jeeves.egr.msu.edu [35.9.37.127]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id FAA10292 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 05:15:25 -0800 Received: from mulder by jeeves.egr.msu.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA14688; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 08:15:07 -0500 Received: from localhost by mulder (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA01973; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 08:15:06 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 08:15:05 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Chris Schafer To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Name Change form In-Reply-To: <004201bd1a1b$4cedbd50$6e6626cf@ops_svr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Colin J. Raven" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: cjs@mulder X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Just for kicks I tried it my self and found that the following search will hit the pine-info archive right off the bat even though the first document found is about a user wanting to "legally" change his name in pine. It might help if the disclaimer at the top included a little extra information (ie. What is "Pine-info"). Anyhow. If anyone wants to reproduce the search: http://av.yahoo.com/bin/query?p=legal+name+change+help&hc=0&hs=11 Chris. On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Colin J. Raven wrote: > Ouch! that's richly bizarre isn't it? > I'll have to do a search and see what happens. > I can hardly wait for Robin's take on this subject Adam, it should be > somewhat enlightening. > > Robin??? Would you care to step up to the podium for a moment and share your > thoughts with us? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Adam H. Kerman > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Date: Monday, January 05, 1998 11:47 PM > Subject: Re: Name Change form > > > >>From: "Colin J. Raven" > >>Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 14:10:55 -0000 > > > >>I now have to begin seriously wondering where all this name change stuff > >>stems from. > > > >I sent Randi a message asking her, and she sent back a nasty reply, saying > I > >wasn't "friendly". Perhaps Robin could be friendlier than I. > > > >She said she used yahoo, but didn't tell me what her search criterion was. > > > >This list is archived, and the archives aren't hidden from search engines. > My > >guess is that the more inappropriate questions we get on this topic, the > higher > >this mailing list will score, in a geometric progression. > > > > > Christopher James Schafer cjs@egr.msu.edu http://www.egr.msu.edu/~cjs VOX:353.9769 FAX:355.7516 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 06:31:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA10359 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 06:31:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA03683; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 06:31:33 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA20391; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 06:26:26 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA26914 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 06:25:06 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA13828 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 06:25:04 -0800 Received: from voland.freenet.bishkek.su (voland.freenet.bishkek.su [193.125.230.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA03598 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 06:23:28 -0800 Received: from freenet.bishkek.su (fygrave@freenet.bishkek.su [193.125.230.1]) by voland.freenet.bishkek.su (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA10901 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 20:06:55 +0500 Received: from localhost (fygrave@localhost) by freenet.bishkek.su (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA04600 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:28:04 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:28:04 -0500 (GMT+5) Reply-To: fygrave@usa.net Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Fyodor To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine locking. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-lummer: Bill Gates X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello people I am using pine 3.96. and i don't want this pine to be able writing to /var/spool/mail/.. dir (OS. Linux. R.H. 4.1). However, when pine reads M.B it attempts to lock mailbox by creating similar lock file in the same dir. i tried to set quell-waring-lock-... but it doesn't help. Any ideas how to force pine to complain about locking or get it using another path for lock? --- Fyodor Yarochkin email:fygrave@usa.net http://www.tigerteam.net/linuxgroup/ tel:(3312) 474465 "Optima philosophia et sapientia est meditatio mortis." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 06:48:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA10377 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 06:48:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA03880; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 06:48:15 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA28931; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 06:45:04 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA31484 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 06:43:51 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA10930 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 06:43:50 -0800 Received: from naveen.ncst.ernet.in (naveen.ncst.ernet.in [202.41.110.35]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id GAA03818 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 06:43:21 -0800 Received: from iucaa (iucaa.ernet.in [144.16.31.4]) by naveen.ncst.ernet.in (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA29713 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 20:21:47 +0530 Received: from unipune.ernet.in by iucaa (5.65v3.2/SMI-4.1) id AA08586; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 20:10:57 +0500 Received: from chem.unipune.ernet.in by unipune.ernet.in (8.8.5/UNIPUNE-MAILHUB(02.04.97)) id UAA01513; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 20:07:19 -0500 (GMT) Received: from localhost by chem.unipune.ernet.in (8.7.5/SMI-SVR4) id UAA01757; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 20:19:54 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 20:19:54 -0500 (GMT+5) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Dr. Subhash B. Padhye" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: regarding address book Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have been trying to enter addresses in address book but this message is displayed"adress book is read only" so how can I enter address in address book please help me. *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Professor Subhash Padhye Department of Chemistry University of Pune Pune 411 007. INDIA Tele. : (0212) 356061(Ext. 2076) Fax : 91-212-353899/351728 e-mail: sbpadhye@chem.unipune.ernet.in From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 07:42:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA11025 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 07:42:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA24852; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 07:42:03 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA01016; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 07:38:30 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA27210 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 07:38:09 -0800 Received: from sundial.alumni.ust.hk (sundial.alumni.ust.hk [143.89.127.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA14249 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 07:38:07 -0800 Received: from localhost (koebi@localhost) by sundial.alumni.ust.hk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA09445; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:38:06 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:38:05 +0800 (HKT) Reply-To: Y M Kung Charles Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Y M Kung Charles To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: regarding address book In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Dr. Subhash B. Padhye" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear sir/madam, You can enter the Config session of Setup to find your address book's filename and then check the write permissions of that file. Charles On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Dr. Subhash B. Padhye wrote: > I have been trying to enter addresses in address book > but this message is displayed"adress book is read only" > so how can I enter address in address book > please help me. > > > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > Professor Subhash Padhye > Department of Chemistry > University of Pune > Pune 411 007. > INDIA > Tele. : (0212) 356061(Ext. 2076) > Fax : 91-212-353899/351728 > e-mail: sbpadhye@chem.unipune.ernet.in > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:31:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA20447 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:31:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA05812; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:30:57 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA43070; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:24:07 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA42240 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:20:29 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA02346 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:20:28 -0800 Received: from pop.netgate.net (root@pop.netgate.net [204.145.147.7]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA15268 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:20:24 -0800 Received: from piercent.netgate.net (pm3-60.netgate.net [205.214.163.60]) by pop.netgate.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA03106 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:11:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <34B2AEF5.5688@d2m.com> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 14:23:49 -0800 Reply-To: piercent@d2m.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Don Pierce To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: The Around Town Mall ! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Draw more people to your website! > > http://www.aroundtown.com > > The Internet has become one of the most popular mediums for businesses > to advertise their products and/or services. Companies can reach > customers both locally and worldwide. But with thousands of businesses > jumping on the Internet each month, it is difficult for potential local > customers to find your business without weeding through dozens of > national websites. That ís where the AROUNDTOWN MALL can help. The > mall covers the Greater Bay Area, from Napa to Monterey. You can > advertise your business on the Around Town Mall and gain Internet > exposure, and draw more people to your website. > > An AROUNDTOWN advertising space will cost your company just $50.00 per > quarter (three months) or $150 per year with a one time set-up fee of > $39. > > Call me, Don Pierce at 408 735-1698 or email me at piercent@d2m.com and > I will arrange to come out and discuss the AROUNDTOWN MALL. > > To set up your mall advertisement, all we need is: > > Your logo, picture, camera ready art or digital image or business card > for our graphic artist. > > Up to a 200 word description of your business, it's products and/or > services. We advertise and market your website advertisement and the > mall monthly to maximize visitors to your ad. > > Since you already have a website, all people would have to do is click > on your logo and be linked directly to your website. > > To find out more about AROUNDTOWN or arrange a meeting call Don Pierce > at 408 735-1698 or email me at piercent@d2m.com. > > Thank You, > > Donald E. Pierce > AROUNDTOWN > New Accounts Manager > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:00:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA20891 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:00:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA16444; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:00:24 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA35216; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:56:04 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA23212 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:46:59 -0800 Received: from edmonds.wednet.edu (gatesj@nova.edmonds.wednet.edu [168.99.160.78]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA29932 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:46:57 -0800 Received: from localhost (gatesj@localhost) by edmonds.wednet.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA08341 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:48:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:48:03 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: John Gates Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: John Gates To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: INBOX specification problem in PC-Pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am trying to run pine OFFLINE on a PC (c:\pine and c:\pine\mail). I use Trumpet Winsock under Win311. I hope to use Pine in this fashion only to access archive folders I have in the mail dir. I don't want/need to do a dialup to an ISP. Problem: the delay of 20 seconds or so while pine tries to find an INBOX is frustrating. The search finally times out and allows me to hit ENTER to choose a default path and then the folder screen will show an inbox with no files in it - all is ok after that - can access the other folders just fine. Would like to have it find INBOX and open it quicker than 20 seconds. In the PINERC file I have set user-id=gatesj, personal-name=John Gates, and inbox-path=c:\pine\$user. I have copied a valid folder/file from the pine\mail dir into the \pine dir and renamed it "gatesj". Haven't made any progress - any ideas? Thanks all! John Gates ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John/Nicki Gates 425-774-3777 750 Northstream Ln, Edmonds WA 98020-2637 gatesj@edmonds.wednet.edu Ham Radio:N7BTI ICBM:47.8241768N x 122.3693085W ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:03:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA21303 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:03:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA16523; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:02:58 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA29714; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:58:31 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA21424 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:57:45 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id OAA01061 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:57:40 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 06 Jan 98 23:57:15 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA21050; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:58:47 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 06 Jan 1998 23:58:43 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Name Change form In-Reply-To: Randi Bagley's message of "Mon, 05 Jan 98 15:43:00 E" References: <34B1497B@loho.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Randi Bagley X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "RB" == Randi Bagley writes: RB> If there is a form available for use by a self-representing citizen RB> to change his/her name on their own, could you please point me in the RB> right direction. Lawyers quote very expensive rates for something RB> that seems as if it should be "fill-in-the-blanks" easy. Dear Randi, there are quite a few ways to get one's name changed. There is a hard one, which would turn you into St. Bagley. It would involve stuff that majorly sucks like cutting coats in two and stuff. Not cool. Secondly, there is a way that would turn you into Mrs. Randi Cummins, which would require marrying one of the lamest morons the world has ever seen. If you're into this kind of guy, you should consider it an option. Right now, the most attractive solution for you in my mind would be to keep posting to this list. It would certainly lead to a couple of people helping you to change your name to "the late Ms Bagley". This would not require any additional input on your behalf, but instead the kind and generous application of fire-arms, baseball bats, chainsaws and heavy artillery on ours. If you don't like any of these choices: [x] get a life [x] get lost [x] get professional help [x] drop dead Robin "you're posting to an email list dealing with an email program" Socha -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University *S*A*T*A*N* ROOLEZ (D. Moehwald) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:42:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA22167 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:41:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA17484; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:41:54 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA25580; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:35:08 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA19092 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:30:01 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA04018 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:30:00 -0800 Received: from expert.cc.purdue.edu (jfalbe@expert.cc.purdue.edu [128.210.10.11]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA07461 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:29:57 -0800 Received: from localhost (jfalbe@localhost) by expert.cc.purdue.edu (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA08014 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:30:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:30:03 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jamie Falbe To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: new update MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN My email was updated automatically in the last 24 hours. My folders were supposedly put into a new directory, but i can not find any of them. Furthermore, i lost all my adresses saved in my address. One more thing, am I suppose to receive and send files, if so how do I retrieve them? Thanks so much for your time! :) Jamie From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:50:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA22281 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA17731; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:49:56 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA26917; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:43:43 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA22862 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:41:51 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA13829 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:41:47 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 07:40:55 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 07:40:55 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: N ame C hange f orm In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Robin, Sorry, I zapped your entire message. However, you always complain that irrelevant stuff shouldn't be quoted. :-) I have an email contact with several individuals who have posted to pine-info asking about "C hanging N ames". It seems all of the ones I've communicated with have performed searches at yahoo or other places with phrases shown to produce results point to pine-info a previously holding conversations about that subject. The folks performing the search just assume that their seach request will return "valid" pointers and proceed to contact one of the indicated sources. The people doing the search tend to be "regular" people with little or no knowledge of the technology they are using, let alone its limitations. They've never heard of "pine" and wouldn't have a reason to stop and think about how "pine" can or cannot be connected with their request. Like it or not, these people make up a growing percentage of the Internet comunity. So, you will be seeing more and more of this type of "error". Yelling at them and making rude comments is not going to improve the situation. The only purpose it serves is to foster the image of the Internet as and unfriendly place. The situation is bound to get worse before it gets better. But, by their numbers, these folks make the Internet a cheaper place for all. So, we (and that *surely* includes me) should learn a bit of tolerance and try to help rather than attack. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:12:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA22886 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:12:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA08623; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:12:10 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA29128; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:09:33 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA46274 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:09:06 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA26153 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:09:06 -0800 Received: from mail.xmission.com (mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id QAA08562 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:09:03 -0800 Received: from [166.70.7.175] [166.70.7.175] by mail.xmission.com with smtp (Exim 1.73 #4) id 0xpj3J-0005fk-00; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:08:58 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 06 Jan 98 17:08:51 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Evans To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Wyse 50 / Wyse 150 and UNAME X-To: "pine-info@cac.washington.edu" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -- [ From: Steve Evans * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- Running Solaris 2.5 on a Sun Ultra Sparc with Wyse 50's, 150's and 150es'.. Problem #1 TERM=wyse50 for an environment variable. The Wyse 150 and 150es terminals run Pine beautifully as long as the terminal is set up to emulate a Wyse 150 or 150+. If I set them up to emulate a Wyse 50 or 50+, the screen displays are misaligned. The Wyse 50 terminals that we have only have one Wyse emulation available (WY50). So with these terminals the screen displays are misaligned. I have tried messing with the environment variable in unix, but can find nothing that will work. I also attempted going with vt100 for everything, but our ancient database program will not fully support vt100 mode. Does anyone know of a pine config setting that I can change, or have any other solution to this problem? Problem #2 We do not currently have an Internet connection, so our nodename (uname) does not have an internet extension (i.e. .COM, .EDU, .GOV). Because of this , we get warnings from pine that our mail domain is incomplete. Does anyone know of a way to shut these warnings off without changing out nodename? Please e-mail replies to steve@xmission.com Thanks for your time. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:39:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA23519 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:39:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA09281; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:39:05 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA01266; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:36:07 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA42658 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:34:40 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA28136 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:34:39 -0800 Received: from ops_svr (ip34.irvine.quik.com [207.38.102.34]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA48556; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 00:33:22 GMT Message-Id: <004e01bd1ac0$71c5bfb0$226626cf@ops_svr> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:30:25 -0000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: new update MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Jamie Falbe" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN There's too much that's unknown to constructively help you. First thing...verry first thing, contact your local systems administrator and ask that person precisely what you posted here. We could send you off on an "ls -laF" this and "grep" that and chances are you'd wind up really frustrated, and neither learn what the problem was, or learn much about Pine in the process either. All of the questions you posed can be succinctly answered by your local sysadmin...too many variables for anyone to have the slightest hope of constructively helping you. Try that first, then if you have further Pine questions, well then come on back and we'll help you. -Colin ------------------------------------------------------ Colin J. Raven Network & Systems Administration HDS Lab, Inc. Costa Mesa CA | Harrison NY. -----Original Message----- From: Jamie Falbe To: Pine Discussion Forum Date: Tuesday, January 06, 1998 11:43 PM Subject: new update > My email was updated automatically in the last 24 hours. My >folders were supposedly put into a new directory, but i can not find any >of them. Furthermore, i lost all my adresses saved in my address. One more >thing, am I suppose to receive and send files, if so how do I retrieve >them? > Thanks so much for your time! > :) Jamie > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:40:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA23537 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:40:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA09337; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:40:53 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA47926; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:37:48 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA35758 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:34:41 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA00138 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:34:39 -0800 Received: from post-ofc06.srv.cis.pitt.edu (root@post-ofc06.srv.cis.pitt.edu [136.142.185.43]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA18954 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:34:36 -0800 Received: from unixs2.cis.pitt.edu (jmast40@unixs2.cis.pitt.edu [136.142.185.53]) by post-ofc06.srv.cis.pitt.edu with SMTP (8.8.7/cispo-2.0.1.7) ID for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:33:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:33:25 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jen Allen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: jmast40@unixs2.cis.pitt.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Sir or Miss, I received a attachment along with one of the letters that I received and I can't figure out how to get it. The attachment is my Uncle, Aunt and cousin singing we wish you a merry christmas. The system said to save it so I did and now I can't find it. Please tell me how to get to it if you can. Thanks, Jenn From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:54:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA25120 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:54:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA20683; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:54:37 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA06841; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:51:30 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA22274 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:49:21 -0800 Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA24518 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:49:16 -0800 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (avardy@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA19942; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 22:19:14 -0330 (NST) Received: (from avardy@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.8/8.8.3) id WAA12679; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 22:19:14 -0330 (NST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 22:19:13 -0330 (NST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Andrew Vardy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jen Allen X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: avardy@plato.ucs.mun.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Jen Allen wrote: > Dear Sir or Miss, > > I received a attachment along with one of the letters that I > received and I can't figure out how to get it. The attachment is my > Uncle, Aunt and cousin singing we wish you a merry christmas. The system > said to save it so I did and now I can't find it. Please tell me how to > get to it if you can. > Perhaps you should save it again from the message. It does tell you the filename when you hit S. You can pick another filename if you want. I am not sure what you mean there "The system said to save it". Pine allows you to save attachments, but I'm not sure about *instructing* you to save it. Once saved, you can download the file. And do with it as you wish. > > Thanks, > Jenn > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:34:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA25560 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:34:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA21320; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:34:48 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA30852; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:31:31 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA23190 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:30:26 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA18827 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:30:24 -0800 Received: from gw.cba.com.au (firewall-user@gw.cba.com.au [203.17.185.171]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA21275 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:30:18 -0800 Received: by gw.cba.com.au; id NAA23097; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 13:28:35 +1100 (EST) Received: from mailgate.cba.com.au(172.29.101.179) by gw.cba.com.au via smap (3.2) id xmaz22268; Wed, 7 Jan 98 13:28:10 +1100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 13:25:50 +1100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Costing & Provisioning" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re - Application/MS-TNEF MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-To: <'pine-info@cac.washington.edu'> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do you have or know of any drivers that will help us open an attachment sent to us in MIME format in Word 6 or Notepad. At the moment when we try to open them they change to .BIN format and when opened in Word or Notepad they appear in hieroglyphics. Please help or let me know if there is anyone else who can help????? Georgette Ertas EDS Sydney - Australia From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:22:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA26012 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:22:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA12039; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:22:29 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA11535; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:17:54 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA35880 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:16:47 -0800 Received: from quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.19]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA21706 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:16:45 -0800 Received: from gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.19]) by quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA30882; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 20:16:26 -0700 Received: from localhost (maldridg@localhost) by gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA123404; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 20:16:25 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 20:16:25 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Lea To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Information List X-Cc: jmast40+@pitt.edu X-Sender: maldridg@gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Andrew Vardy wrote: > I am not sure what you mean there "The system said to save it". Pine allows > you to save attachments, but I'm not sure about *instructing* you to save it. When Pine isn't sure of the format of the attachment, it does tell you to use View/Attach to save it to a file... Jenn, you need to find out from your local computing support people what you have available to you as a file transfer program, and how to use it. Use View/Attach in the e-mail message to save the attachment to a file in your account's home directory (Pine will automatically save to the home directory by default). Then use your system's FTP client to download the file to the hard drive of your computer. Later... Lea From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:56:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA26275 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:56:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA12454; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:56:05 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA19218; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:52:04 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA36832 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:50:10 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA13224 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:50:05 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA17548 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 21:48:56 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 21:48:56 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: N ame C hange f orm In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Edward M Greshko >Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 07:40:55 +0800 (GMT) >Robin, >I have an email contact with several individuals who have posted to >pine-info asking about "C hanging N ames". It seems all of the ones >I've communicated with have performed searches at yahoo or other places >with phrases shown to produce results point to pine-info a previously >holding conversations about that subject. I think they are submitting questions to this list through their browser using the mailto: URL in the archives. Unless Robin were to write to them directly, her pithy observations are for our entertainment only. The pine-info list is open to postings from non-subscribers. There is a solution to this problem: Moderate questions posted by non- subscribers. Move long-time contributors to a hidden, unmoderated list. The first time a subscriber asks a question having to do with pine, move him to the unmoderated list. Irrelevant questions get relevant "best of Robin" responses. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:28:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA30884 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:28:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA26268; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:28:42 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA24554; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:25:55 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA35636 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:23:54 -0800 Received: from connect1.reach.net (root@connect1.reach.net [204.50.58.9]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA05662 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:23:53 -0800 Received: from nell.reach.net (A28.reach.net [204.50.58.59]) by connect1.reach.net (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id CAA27297 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 02:21:39 -0500 Message-Id: <199801070721.CAA27297@connect1.reach.net> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 02:26:34 -0500 Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Helen Bates" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Bug in Pine? (CTRL-^ to mark text inconsistent) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm not subscribed to this list, but am reading an archived post. I have had a similar problem to that of Felix Karpfen when trying to mark text so I can delete several lines at once. I run Pine by proxy by telnetting to the WORLD.STD.COM system and using the login and password (by permission) of a user of that system. I configured the version of Pine he is using to allow the marking of text, and it did work at first, and has worked occasionally since, but mostly, it just causes characters to be typed to the composed post and I usually have to quit Pine and re-enter it to fix this, or I cannot even use the regular commands. Anyone have any ideas about why this should happen? Helen Bates nell@connect.reach.net nell@connect.reach.net Type 2, Diet & Exercise From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:49:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA31106 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:49:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA16421; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:49:22 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA01344; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:46:37 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA15584 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:44:38 -0800 Received: from felix.unife.it (cova@felix.unife.it [192.167.208.125]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA06471 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:44:31 -0800 Received: from localhost (cova@localhost) by felix.unife.it (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id IAA32465 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:44:28 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:44:28 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Fabio Coatti To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: problem with display filter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've a problem with display filters in pine 3.96. I'm trying to use this option with a perl script, but if the script returns any "\n" character the only thing I get is a "Success Hit return to continue" from pine, and when I hit return, the viewer shows only a [Error: Formatting Error: Success] I've tried several scripts,always with the same result. If the output contains no "\n", pine shows no errors but also no text. Can someone give me a hint to track down the problem? I'm using pine under linux 2.1.75 and perl 5. Thanks in advance. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Fabio Coatti 2:332/409.414 Fidonet cova@felix.unife.it Internet http://felix.unife.it/~cova Home page Old SysOps never die... they simply forget their password. ----------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 02:48:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA01127 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 02:48:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA28816; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 02:48:15 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA05250; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 02:45:10 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA34120 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 02:43:16 -0800 Received: from bonk.akap.com (steve@[208.218.21.7]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA12354 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 02:43:14 -0800 Received: from localhost (steve@localhost) by bonk.akap.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA12810 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 05:43:43 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 05:43:43 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "s.blood" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "s.blood" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: is there a way to quell the 'delete old SENT mail folder' message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN "To save disk space, delete old SENT mail folder sent-mail-dec-1997?" I've looked through .pinerc a couple of times and tried some searches through the archives of this mailing list but haven't been able to find how to turn this option off. Is there a switch somewhere? Any help would be appreciated, thanks, steve blood ps-please cc a copy to me. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 03:46:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA01991 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 03:46:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA29519; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 03:46:21 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA00380; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 03:44:07 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA29642 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 03:42:22 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA26015 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 03:42:21 -0800 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id DAA29483 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 03:42:16 -0800 Received: from localhost by del2.vsnl.net.in (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/29Nov96-0812PM) id AA22570; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 17:15:10 +0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 17:15:10 +0500 (GMT+0500) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rukn Luthra To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: PROBLEM!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: HELPDESK NEW DELHI X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Sir, When I log into my e-mail, I get the following message "ERROR IN SAVING CONFIGURATON......." and when ever I send a message i get "write to sent mail failed" as a result messages do not get reflected in the sent mail box....While also composing a message i get "No room...Disc quota exceeded..." Please advise urgently on problem and its solution. Thanks Rukn Luthra From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:20:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA03094 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:20:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA00284; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:20:13 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA06829; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:17:26 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA36048 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:16:14 -0800 Received: from isc.lf.net (isc.LF.net [194.64.4.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA26898 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:16:13 -0800 Received: by isc.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.95/isc.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remotehost sparclx with uucp for mxu2.u.washington.edu id m0xpuOv-000oZ3C; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 13:16:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de(really [192.9.200.142]) by mail.delta-ii.de via sendmail with smtp id for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 13:15:56 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jul-11) Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA00933; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 13:15:56 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 07 Jan 1998 13:15:56 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: PROBLEM!! In-Reply-To: Rukn Luthra's message of "Wed, 7 Jan 1998 17:15:10 +0500 (GMT+0500)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Rukn Luthra X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: viteno X-Organisation: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >>>On Wed, 7 Jan 1998 17:15:10 +0500 (GMT+0500), Rukn Luthra said: Hi, RL> Dear Sir, When I log into my e-mail, I get the following message RL> "ERROR IN SAVING CONFIGURATON......." and when ever I send a RL> message i get "write to sent mail failed" as a result messages do RL> not get reflected in the sent mail box....While also composing a RL> message i get "No room...Disc quota exceeded..." Please advise RL> urgently on problem and its solution. Thanks Rukn Luthra this problem is (still) not a pine issue. The message tells you that you should tidy up your place because the part of disk space which has been given to you is all used up. There exist some possible solutions, to be used in the mentioned order (a) remove old, now unwanted since no more needed files (some old mails, eg) (b) bribe your sys admin / help desk clerk to rise your disk quota (c) ... I know, I've been missing some ways to solve the problem (shoot other users and get their disk quota for example) ... but this I consider unprofessional. After you've cleaned some files your configuration file can be saved again (perhaps you should take a glance at it, it might be broken) and sent-mail should work again. l8er, norbert. -- Norbert Koch a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:37:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA03344 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:37:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA00484; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:37:25 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA01129; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:35:09 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA35876 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:34:08 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA00149 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:34:06 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:33:55 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:33:55 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: is there a way to quell the 'delete old SENT mail folder' message In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "s.blood" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, s.blood wrote: > "To save disk space, delete old SENT mail folder sent-mail-dec-1997?" > > > I've looked through .pinerc a couple of times and tried some searches > through the archives of this mailing list but haven't been able to find > how to turn this option off. Is there a switch somewhere? > > Any help would be appreciated, In your .pinerc file find the entry: # Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. last-time-prune-questioned=98.1 Set it to 110.1 and the next time it will ask you is 2010. Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:39:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA03298 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:39:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA00524; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:39:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA07077; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:37:46 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA45280 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:36:40 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA27364 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:36:38 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:36:33 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:36:33 +0800 (GMT) Reply-To: Edward M Greshko Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: PROBLEM!! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Rukn Luthra X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Along with the good advice of Norbert, you should also be made aware that these types of problems should be first worked thru you ISP's helpdesk. VSNL has a helpdesk in Deli, yes? -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:53:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA03592 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:53:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA20487; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:53:48 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA07336; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:51:28 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA34252 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:50:19 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA15729 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:50:16 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:49:31 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:49:31 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: N ame C hange f orm In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Adam H. Kerman" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > I think they are submitting questions to this list through their browser using > the mailto: URL in the archives. Unless Robin were to write to them directly, > her pithy observations are for our entertainment only. You seem to be saying that being rude to someone is OK as long as they can't hear you. Or, maybe being rude to strangers is somehow humorous? > The pine-info list is open to postings from non-subscribers. > > There is a solution to this problem: Moderate questions posted by non- > subscribers. Move long-time contributors to a hidden, unmoderated list. The > first time a subscriber asks a question having to do with pine, move him to the > unmoderated list. Offering to fill this role? > Irrelevant questions get relevant "best of Robin" responses. Some people are ignorant of the fact their questions are irrelevant. That means you have a license to snap at them? Sorry for this off topic comment....now back to "pine" issues. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:14:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA06175 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:14:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA03838; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:14:28 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA15950; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:06:07 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA19366 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:04:00 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA04750 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:03:54 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA24746 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:02:46 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:02:46 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: N ame C hange f orm In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Edward M Greshko >Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:49:31 +0800 (GMT) >On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>I think they are submitting questions to this list through their browser using >>the mailto: URL in the archives. Unless Robin were to write to them directly, >>her pithy observations are for our entertainment only. >You seem to be saying that being rude to someone is OK as long as they >can't hear you. No, Ed. Rudeness requires that the target be aware of what was said. >Or, maybe being rude to strangers is somehow humorous? Unless Robin sent them private e-mail, she's can't be rude to someone who isn't on the list. Whether or not YOU found it funny is another matter. >>The pine-info list is open to postings from non-subscribers. >>There is a solution to this problem: Moderate questions posted by non- >>subscribers. Move long-time contributors to a hidden, unmoderated list. The >>first time a subscriber asks a question having to do with pine, move him to >>the unmoderated list. >Offering to fill this role? It's up to the list owner. But, I'd be willing to help. >>Irrelevant questions get relevant "best of Robin" responses. >Some people are ignorant of the fact their questions are irrelevant. That >means you have a license to snap at them? You volunteering to write the responses? >Sorry for this off topic comment....now back to "pine" issues. Actually, we get a significant amount of off-topic posting, and we should attempt to solve the problem. I suggest that we continue this thread. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:23:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA06310 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:23:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA04050; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:22:56 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA17156; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:20:01 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA15576 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:18:23 -0800 Received: from intraactive.com (huka.intraactive.com [208.212.192.12]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA04382 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:18:21 -0800 Received: from huka.intraactive.com (mail.intraactive.com [208.212.192.140]) by intraactive.com (8.7.5/1996042601) id LAA14629; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:18:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:18:11 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Julianne Kurtz To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: N ame C hange f orm In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Why don't we send mail to yahoo explaining the situation and asking if they could possibly remove that particular listing for us? Does anyone know anyone over there? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Julianne Kurtz julianne@intraactive.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:01:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA07262 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:01:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA24832; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:01:04 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA19522; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:55:28 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA13518 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:53:36 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA07156 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:53:34 -0800 Received: from sheerx.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA12998; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:54:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:54:07 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: N ame C hange f orm In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Adam H. Kerman" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN A solution a little less drastic than full moderation would simply be to not allow posts from people who haven't subscribed--it's a common enough mailing list convention. Yes, it means that to ask a question, one must figure out how to subscribe, but it's not that hard, and it would probably filter out most of the accidental off topics. Vinnie On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > Actually, we get a significant amount of off-topic posting, and we should > attempt to solve the problem. I suggest that we continue this thread. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:04:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA07562 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:04:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA05122; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:04:10 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA29932; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:58:06 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA29584 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:57:07 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA03293 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:57:02 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA25299 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:55:59 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:55:59 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: N ame C hange f orm In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Julianne Kurtz >Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:18:11 -0500 (EST) >Why don't we send mail to yahoo explaining the situation and asking if >they could possibly remove that particular listing for us? It should be fixed in the pine archives themselves. yahoo, and the other search engines, wouldn't customize anything unless the university paid a fee. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:33:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA08032 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:33:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA25806; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:32:56 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA35716; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:27:36 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA20772 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:25:31 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA10818 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:25:31 -0800 Received: from hjalmar.kalmar.se (ns.kalmar.se [193.45.96.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA05719 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:25:27 -0800 Received: from hjalmar (kk100-25.kalmar.se [193.45.100.25]) by hjalmar.kalmar.se (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA28722 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 18:16:44 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980107172217.0067d3a0@mailgate.kalmar.se> Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 18:22:17 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Anne-Li Fredriksson To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: I understand nothing.. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: ofafn@mailgate.kalmar.se (Unverified) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Can someone please tell me about ISO-8859-1. Does the following message mean something? =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_ _=E4r _ _??= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:17:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA08957 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:17:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA06989; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:17:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA19529; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:12:50 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA39136 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:11:19 -0800 Received: from ppnt41.physics.ox.ac.uk (ppnt41.physics.ox.ac.uk [163.1.244.27]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA09699 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:11:17 -0800 Received: by ppnt41.physics.ox.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 18:11:18 -0000 Message-Id: <21A996716DF4D011BDCA006097AD19450DB287@ppnt41.physics.ox.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 18:11:16 -0000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ian McArthur To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine with Exchange 5.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-To: "'pine-info@u.washington.edu'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear All, I notice that a couple of people have reported on this list that they are unable to get Pine 3.96 to see all folders on an exchange server running 5.5 with IMAP enabled. I too have encountered this and was told that this is due to the absence of some optional IMAP2 backwards compatibility in the MS product. Can anyone confirm this and if so anyone put a timescale on the release of a full IMAP4 version of Pine ? I'm certainly keen to see it. Cheers, Ian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:26:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA09387 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:26:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA27216; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:26:04 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA20034; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:20:32 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA27434 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:19:25 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id KAA22324 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:19:24 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 07 Jan 98 19:18:52 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA11740; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 19:20:27 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 07 Jan 1998 19:20:26 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: N ame C hange f orm In-Reply-To: Edward M Greshko's message of "Wed, 7 Jan 1998 07:40:55 +0800 (GMT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edward M Greshko X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "EMG" == Edward "Saint" Greshko writes: ESG> I have an email contact with several individuals who have posted ESG> to pine-info asking about "C hanging N ames". Nice try, but a regexp search will catch those, too, Ed... ESG> It seems all of the ones I've communicated with have performed ESG> searches at yahoo or other places with phrases shown to produce ESG> results point to pine-info a previously holding conversations ESG> about that subject. Oh... emmm... like "how to change the name in the from line"? Ray, Annelise, are you there? You suck. You hear me? [...] ESG> The people doing the search tend to be "regular" people with ESG> little or no knowledge of the technology they are using, let ESG> alone its limitations. They've never heard of "pine" and ESG> wouldn't have a reason to stop and think about how "pine" can ESG> or cannot be connected with their request. Sure. We all know that, Ed. The problem is: would you like me to run you over with a ten-ton truck, saying "sorry, but I didn't know the technology"? ESG> Like it or not, these people make up a growing percentage of the ESG> Internet comunity. So, you will be seeing more and more of this ESG> type of "error". The dawning of doom. But... *we* don't surrender. *We* don't take any prisoners either. If *they* don't listen to reason, *we*'ll bring our superior firepower to bear. while true ; echo "RTFM" | mail loser@i.suck.com ; done ESG> Yelling at them and making rude comments is not going to improve ESG> the situation. Noone's done that IIRC. We've all been very helpful and understanding. Face it, Ed, she could be a saint now, if she only had listened... ESG> The only purpose it serves is to foster the image of the Internet ESG> as and unfriendly place. Oh yeah? If somehow Microsoft decided to give away guns for free, so that everyone could have even more information at their fingertips, would you just sit there and say "thanks guys, great job"? The internet is not an unfriendly place at all if you stick to the rules that guys much cleverer than you and I made up years ago. If for whatever reason *they* should decide that pouring their crap into *our* information network would be a pretty KeWL idea... well, you know... ESG> The situation is bound to get worse before it gets better. It's certainly not going to get any better if the people who know what the internet can do just sit there silently waiting for the next glorious toilet appliance from Redmond. ESG> But, by their numbers, these folks make the Internet a cheaper ESG> place for all. May I politely interject here: this is about the dumbest thing I've heard for years? The internet is not cheap, and if it is to work at all, it will have to be made a *lot* more expensive. Just look at what AOL, compusmurf and MSN have done to the net already. Hell, I got about the fastest machine I ever had - but my download ratios plainly suck. IRC is being taken over by child pornographers and KeWL WaREz GuYZ. Even a.s.s. is full of commercial crap. And you want to tell *me* that the net is getting cheaper? I mean, yeah, it's being cheapened and nastied, but it's not getting any cheaper... This sucks. I hate those lusers. ESG> So, we (and that *surely* includes me) should learn a bit of ESG> tolerance and try to help rather than attack. Appeasement? No, Sir, thank you, we've had that before, and it didn't work then, either. I say, let's stand and fight. Ummm... and help, where we can, too. }:-> Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept., Bonn University Free Software: Contribute nothing, expect nothing From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:52:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA11497 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:52:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA29395; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:52:49 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA26329; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:42:55 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA14638 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:41:04 -0800 Received: from bkb01-ims-01.us.ikom.net (bkb01-ims-01.ikon.com [205.145.58.62]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA30102 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:41:03 -0800 Received: by BKB01-IMS-01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 14:40:33 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 14:40:40 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Everett, Marty" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: RE: Pine with Exchange 5.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-To: Pine Discussion Forum , "'Ian McArthur'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have pine working with the default inbox and exchange 5.5 jut fine. I have not at this time tried any other folders. ( not user how ?). If you need some setup detail let me know. ---------- From: Ian McArthur[SMTP:Ian.McArthur@physics.ox.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 1998 1:11 PM To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine with Exchange 5.5 Dear All, I notice that a couple of people have reported on this list that they are unable to get Pine 3.96 to see all folders on an exchange server running 5.5 with IMAP enabled. I too have encountered this and was told that this is due to the absence of some optional IMAP2 backwards compatibility in the MS product. Can anyone confirm this and if so anyone put a timescale on the release of a full IMAP4 version of Pine ? I'm certainly keen to see it. Cheers, Ian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 12:22:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA12207 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 12:22:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA00181; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 12:22:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA00200; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 12:18:12 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA29512 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 12:16:31 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA20576 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 12:16:29 -0800 Received: from dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.11]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA10033 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 12:16:26 -0800 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA24268; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 14:15:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from dsl52.phnx.uswest.net(207.225.190.52) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma024220; Wed Jan 7 14:15:16 1998 Message-Id: <199801073862CAA23210@post.ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 14:15:53 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: billy@bingo.edu (TVC, TImeshare, Travel Club) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: See where your Competion is advertising X-To: billy@bingo.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Are your clients: Travelers, Vacationers or Timeshare Owners? 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NOW! http://www.fsbo-home.com/tvc/timeshare.htm Or send for more information: < mailto:profit@fsbo-home.com > To be removed from this mailing list please reply to: < remove@fsbo-home.com > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:45:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA15634 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:45:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA05050; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:45:40 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA24300; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:42:34 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA21574 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:41:59 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA10182 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:41:57 -0800 Received: from post-ofc04.srv.cis.pitt.edu (root@post-ofc04.srv.cis.pitt.edu [136.142.185.11]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA15280 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:41:55 -0800 Received: from unixs4.cis.pitt.edu (jmast40@unixs4.cis.pitt.edu [136.142.185.55]) by post-ofc04.srv.cis.pitt.edu with SMTP (8.8.8/cispo-2.0.1.7) ID for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:43:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:43:29 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jen Allen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: jmast40@unixs4.cis.pitt.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Sir or Miss, I figured out my problem. So nobody has to email me anymore. Thanks anyway. Jenn From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:57:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA17277 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:57:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA05359; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:57:51 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA21176; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:54:07 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA22398 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:52:54 -0800 Received: from sindbad.rz.uni-augsburg.de (root@sindbad.RZ.Uni-Augsburg.DE [137.250.111.37]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA11403 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:52:50 -0800 Received: from localhost (binder@localhost) by sindbad.rz.uni-augsburg.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA09852 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 00:36:58 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 00:36:58 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: Thomas Binder Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Thomas Binder To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: how to use pine with different email-accounts? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi. i have several folders in my pine which are filled by my procmail with e-mail from differnet servers. now i want to write an email from the folder "xy" with my email-address binder@xy; when i am in folder "xz", i want to write an email with the adresse binder@xz. I had a possible solution with different .pinerc, but this does not solve it proper for my needs, i just want to go from one folder and reply with one of the email-adresses... I don't know much about filtering with pine, but could this be done with an outgoing filter, which does some sendmail? (don't know much about sendmail either!). thanx for your help... Thomas. -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ |oooO / ) ( \ Oooo. | |( ( ) / ( ) \ ( ) ) imehl: binder@sindbad..uni-augsburg.de | | \ ( ( ) ) ( ) ) ) / | | \_) .oooO Oooo. 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Fields) | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 22:33:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA22923 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 22:33:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA11917; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 22:33:43 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA20181; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 22:30:33 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA16766 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 22:30:12 -0800 Received: from fsmat.htu.tuwien.ac.at (fsmat.htu.tuwien.ac.at [128.130.43.74]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA13118 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 22:30:03 -0800 Received: from localhost (kellner@localhost) by fsmat.htu.tuwien.ac.at (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA03551 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 07:29:54 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 07:29:54 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: kellner@fsmat.htu.tuwien.ac.at Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jakob Kellner To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: folder index - sender or recipient MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: kellner@fsmat X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi! In the FOLDER INDEX pine displays the SENDER of a message. "If you are the sender, the first recipient's name is shown here." Can you tell pine somehow that you have more than one email-address? My email-address has changed a few times (partly becouse I traveld to other countries), and so I often see my name instead of the recipient's when I brouwse through old mailfolders. (The alternative of changing the From: Name lines "manually" in old mailfolders doesn't seem too attractive to me.) If there is no such feature, maybe this could be a suggestion for further versions? Please answer directly, since I am not a subscriber of the mailing-list. thanks (__) Jakob Kellner vv vv (oo) School of Mathematics F07 ||----|| * /-------\/ University of Sydney, NSW 2006 || | / / | || eMail: kellner@pap.univie.ac.at /\-------/ * ||----|| (oo) ~~ ~~ Australian Cow Austrian Cow (~~) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 23:16:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA23288 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 23:16:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA12413; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 23:16:12 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA16182; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 23:12:54 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA43666 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 23:11:44 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA10452 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 23:11:39 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA01417; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 01:10:16 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 01:10:16 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: folder index - sender or recipient In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jakob Kellner X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Jakob Kellner >Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 07:29:54 +0100 (MET) >Can you tell pine somehow that you have more than one email-address? In the configuration file, add your old addresses to the option "alt-addresses". For more information, read the context-sensitive help. You may have as many as you like. In your folders, you will see the recipient's name or newsgroup listed if you are the author, and you will also see the "+" if you are the recipient for any of the addresses you list. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 06:50:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA28896 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 06:50:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA00601; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 06:50:02 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA02604; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 06:44:55 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA35498 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 06:43:41 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA26445 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 06:43:39 -0800 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.176]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA00481 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 06:43:36 -0800 Message-Id: <2cfad49f.34b4e525@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:39:31 EST Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: CMandracch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: importing jewelry Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To whom it may concern: I am interested in getting started in the importing business; the product that I will se selling is filigree jewelry from India. I am a teacher by profession and I need some info. in getting started in this business. If you have any info. available, I would deeply appreciate it. Thank you for your time; I am looking forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Cindi Email address: CMandracch From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 08:07:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA29781 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 08:07:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA02385; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 08:07:00 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA05866; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 08:01:52 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA14850 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 08:00:36 -0800 Received: from bkb01-ims-01.us.ikom.net (bkb01-ims-01.ikon.com [205.145.58.62]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA02156 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 08:00:35 -0800 Received: by BKB01-IMS-01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:00:28 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:00:19 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Everett, Marty" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: RE: Pine with Exchange 5.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-To: "'Feinholz, Steven'" X-Cc: "'pine-info@u.washington.edu'" , "Riley, David" , "Wyant, Rich" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Port 143 is the imap tcp port. This tells me that IMAP is NOT turned running on the NT exchange server. Need to make sure you have IMAP running on that box!. A simple test will let you know when it is running. from a command prompt run: $ telnet imap01 143 - imap01 is the hostname of exchange server. this is what you should get back Trying... Connected to imap01. Escape character is '^T'. OK Microsoft Exchange IMAP4rev1 server version 5.5.1960.6 (imap01) ready If you do not get the message from exchange then it is not running. Thanks Marty ---------- From: Feinholz, Steven[SMTP:sf3@ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 1998 5:47 PM To: Everett, Marty Subject: RE: Pine with Exchange 5.5 I keep getting: Can't connect to <...> server, 143: refused or: Can't connect to <...> server, 143: timed out __________________________________________________ Steven Feinholz NCR Parallel Systems Client Software Phone: (310) 524-5945 Fax: (310) 524-5515 VoicePlus: 427-5945 email: Steven.Feinholz@ElSegundoCa.NCR.COM > ---------- > From: Everett, Marty[SMTP:MEverett@IKON.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 1998 1:45 PM > To: Everett, Marty; 'Feinholz, Steven' > Cc: Wyant, Rich; Riley, David; Wessells, Jim; Yang, Jennifer > Subject: RE: Pine with Exchange 5.5 > > What I did. > > 1) find out what system my mail box was on. > 2) Make sure Imap is turned on that system. Has be on that system > 3) Note your NT account login. > 4) Then set these two lines in you .pinerc > inbox-path={fred01/user=imap}inbox > rsh-open-timeout=0 > > fred01 is the hostname of the Exchange server i.e. > should resolve to the ip address of your NT exchange server that has > your mail box on it. > imap is the your nt account name on the nt server > rsh-open-timeout will set it so that it will prompt you > for a password right away and not try to see if r-commands will work > first. > > Other option of note : > > To make it so it looks like the mail you send came from your > exchange account set these options in your .pinerc. > > 1) personal-name="Imap User" > This should match what your full name is in exchange > 2) customized-hdrs=From: Imap User > this should match your full name in exchange and what > your smtp address is in exchange ( not your local host but on the > exchange server !!) > Also note the for the hdrs change to work you must > compile pine with the proper support turned on. > > To use exchange as your sendmail server and not your local > sendmail daemon then. > > 1) smtp-server=jane01 > This should be what ever exchange server has the > "Internet Mail connector turned on" this does not have to be the same > server that has your mail box but can be. This can be nice because you > will not have to setup or play with local sendmail daemon to make pine > sendmail. > > To get a global address from exchange. This is more difficult > because pine does not have ldap support at this time. What you can get > around this with and external ldap query program that runs the creates > the pine address book on a timely basis. If you need to know how to do > this let me know but you will some none pine programs. > > Thanks Marty > > > > > > > ---------- > From: Feinholz, Steven[SMTP:sf3@ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 1998 4:17 PM > To: Everett, Marty > Subject: RE: Pine with Exchange 5.5 > > Actually, I could use some help. We have Exchange 5.x > running with an MSMail 7.0 server. I think we are switching > to the Exchange server in the next few months. > > But I have been unable to get Pine to even recognize my > INBOX on the server. Maybe I am setting it up incorrectly. > I was pointing the INBOX to my PST file on the server. > > __________________________________________________ > Steven Feinholz > NCR Parallel Systems > Client Software > Phone: (310) 524-5945 > Fax: (310) 524-5515 > VoicePlus: 427-5945 > email: Steven.Feinholz@ElSegundoCa.NCR.COM > > > ---------- > > From: Everett, Marty[SMTP:MEverett@IKON.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 1998 11:40 AM > > To: Pine Discussion Forum > > Subject: RE: Pine with Exchange 5.5 > > > > I have pine working with the default inbox and exchange 5.5 > jut fine. > > I > > have not at this time tried any other folders. ( not user how > ?). If > > you > > need some setup detail let me know. > > > > ---------- > > From: Ian McArthur[SMTP:Ian.McArthur@physics.ox.ac.uk] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 1998 1:11 PM > > To: Pine Discussion Forum > > Subject: Pine with Exchange 5.5 > > > > Dear All, > > I notice that a couple of people have reported on this > list that > > they > > are unable to get Pine 3.96 to see all folders on an > exchange > > server > > running 5.5 with IMAP enabled. I too have encountered > this and > > was told > > that this is due to the absence of some optional IMAP2 > backwards > > compatibility in the MS product. Can anyone confirm this > and if > > so > > anyone put a timescale on the release of a full IMAP4 > version of > > Pine ? > > I'm certainly keen to see it. > > Cheers, Ian > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:08:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA31292 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:08:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA04256; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:08:06 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA07962; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:03:58 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA24590 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:01:45 -0800 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id JAA10959 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:01:40 -0800 Received: from localhost by del2.vsnl.net.in (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/29Nov96-0812PM) id AA03654; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 22:33:11 +0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 22:33:11 +0500 (GMT+0500) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rukn Luthra To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: PROBLEM!! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Norbert Koch X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi Norbert! Thanks..I figured all this ...but deleting almost all my messages in the inbox and sent mail box did not help...so...anyways I have solved the problem...Thanks. Rukn On 7 Jan 1998, Norbert Koch wrote: > >>>On Wed, 7 Jan 1998 17:15:10 +0500 (GMT+0500), Rukn Luthra said: > > Hi, > > RL> Dear Sir, When I log into my e-mail, I get the following message > RL> "ERROR IN SAVING CONFIGURATON......." and when ever I send a > RL> message i get "write to sent mail failed" as a result messages do > RL> not get reflected in the sent mail box....While also composing a > RL> message i get "No room...Disc quota exceeded..." Please advise > RL> urgently on problem and its solution. Thanks Rukn Luthra > > this problem is (still) not a pine issue. The message tells you that > you should tidy up your place because the part of disk space which has > been given to you is all used up. There exist some possible solutions, > to be used in the mentioned order > > (a) remove old, now unwanted since no more needed files (some old > mails, eg) > (b) bribe your sys admin / help desk clerk to rise your disk quota > (c) ... > > I know, I've been missing some ways to solve the problem (shoot other > users and get their disk quota for example) ... but this I consider > unprofessional. > > After you've cleaned some files your configuration file can be saved > again (perhaps you should take a glance at it, it might be broken) and > sent-mail should work again. > > l8er, norbert. > > -- > Norbert Koch > a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:37:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA00640 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:37:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA26962; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:37:49 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA46168; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:32:38 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA39174 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:30:12 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA19660 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:30:09 -0800 Received: from cocoon.ucr.edu (trana06@cocoon.ucr.edu [138.23.226.104]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA26703 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:30:06 -0800 Received: from localhost (trana06@localhost) by cocoon.ucr.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA12237 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:26:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:26:42 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ann Huynh Tran To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Sug (ID Y777J): (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: trana06@cocoon X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:19:49 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Huynh Tran To: Pine Developers Subject: Sug (ID Y777J): Hi, please help me retrieve my old messages. I was asked if I wanted to empty out my folder and start from January to save space. I did so without thinking that it would delete all my old messages. How do I get them all back??? Please Help!!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:40:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA00710 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:40:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA07176; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:40:43 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA15766; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:36:39 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA27190 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:36:17 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA13873 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:36:14 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA07602 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:35:14 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:35:14 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: irrelevant posts (was: importing jewelry) In-Reply-To: <2cfad49f.34b4e525@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: CMandracch >Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:39:31 EST >I am interested in getting started in the importing business; the product that >I will se selling is filigree jewelry from India. Sigh. Who has a theory on how a Web page from the archives was the highest scoring hit for "filigree jewelry"? I assume this person isn't a subscriber. This is still an argument for modera- ting mail from nonsubscribers. Does anyone else think this is a good idea? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:24:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA10342 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:24:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA17632; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:23:57 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA14777; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:19:53 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA44478 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:17:49 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA26216 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:17:45 -0800 Received: from ops_svr (ip39.irvine.quik.com [207.38.102.39]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA47044; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 01:16:34 GMT Message-Id: <000201bd1c58$cdde4e40$276626cf@ops_svr> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:00:52 -0000 Reply-To: "Colin J. Raven" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: irrelevant posts (was: importing jewelry) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Adam H. Kerman" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Adam; I recently wrote to Ed on this subject. Having read the thread that seems to have developed, I concur with the apparent concensus that a moderated list and an unmoderated private one alongside seems to have the structure necessary to solve the problem. I would be willing to moderate a new subscriber's list, and since I prefer to avoid flaming or retorting to silly-assed queries, maybe that might be of some help when acting as a moderator. For that matter, perhaps those core members could rotate moderation on (say) a three month basis. If we had four willing members, then each would run the list once per year. If not, then what the hell, I'll moderate it. What would be necessary from U/Wash point of view to make this happen, and would they necessarily agree with the need to do this? Does this become a policy issue? I have no clue what the possible answers are to any of the above. Maybe it doesn't matter...I don't know. I accede to the wishes of the majority here, but I have the patience to do it which may help. -Colin > >>I am interested in getting started in the importing business; the product that >>I will se selling is filigree jewelry from India. > >Sigh. Who has a theory on how a Web page from the archives was the highest >scoring hit for "filigree jewelry"? > >I assume this person isn't a subscriber. This is still an argument for modera- >ting mail from nonsubscribers. Does anyone else think this is a good idea? > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:46:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA10840 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:46:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA18096; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:46:38 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA17655; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:43:24 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA29524 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:41:08 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA05289 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:41:06 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA12489 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:40:07 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:40:07 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: irrelevant posts In-Reply-To: <000201bd1c58$cdde4e40$276626cf@ops_svr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: "Colin J. Raven" >Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:00:52 -0000 >What would be necessary from U/Wash point of view to make this happen, and >would they necessarily agree with the need to do this? Does this become a >policy issue? I don't know who the Webmaster is, and who the list-owner is. The Webmaster would need to change the archives to clearly give a description of pine on any Web page that has a mailto: URL. I got a letter today on "lxgal nxme chxnge". Fixing the Web pages would likely eliminate 90% of the irrelevant posts from nonsubscribers. Any post from a nonsubscriber would be sent to the moderation pool. Any new subscriber could be moderated till he asks a relevant question. The list server used is ListProc, and I assume it could filter mail along these lines. This is my suggestion. I wish the list-owner would post a message offering the University's opinion. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:02:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA11791 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:02:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA09637; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:02:36 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA40216; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 18:58:58 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA49272 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 18:57:23 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA02906 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 18:57:21 -0800 Received: from seovca.seovec.ohio.gov (seovca.seovec.ohio.gov [156.63.161.8]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA09557 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 18:57:19 -0800 Received: from SEOVCA.SEOVEC.OHIO.GOV by SEOVCA.SEOVEC.OHIO.GOV (PMDF V5.1-9 #6787) id <01IS5E8A9Y7A8WXIQP@SEOVCA.SEOVEC.OHIO.GOV> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:57:53 EST Message-Id: Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 21:57:53 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: wl_csmith@SEOVCA.SEOVEC.OHIO.GOV To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Messages not delivered MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: Carolyn Smith X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN For the past four days, I have not been receiving all my e-mail. Only part of the messages are getting through. I've sent myself test messages as well as messages to a group. These are not getting through. Messages to certain individuals are being delivered. Any suggestions? Carolyn Smith From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:21:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA12061 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:21:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA19807; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:21:41 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA25155; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:17:54 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA51618 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:16:39 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA26232 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:16:37 -0800 Received: from seovca.seovec.ohio.gov (seovca.seovec.ohio.gov [156.63.161.8]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA19722 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:16:35 -0800 Received: from SEOVCA.SEOVEC.OHIO.GOV by SEOVCA.SEOVEC.OHIO.GOV (PMDF V5.1-9 #6787) id <01IS5ERVN8BK8WXIQP@SEOVCA.SEOVEC.OHIO.GOV> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 22:17:15 EST Message-Id: <01IS5ESLYQJO8WXIQP@SEOVCA.SEOVEC.OHIO.GOV> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 22:14:43 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: WL_CSMITH@SEOVCA.SEOVEC.OHIO.GOV To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Problems with delivery MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Much of my mail sent through Pine is not getting out. I am not using Pine to send this message. I have been unable to send messages to myself or to a dist- tribution group that I head up. This problem has only happened for the last four days. Any suggestins????? Carolyn SMith From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 22:32:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA06378 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 22:32:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA22584; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 22:32:00 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA01749; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 22:28:07 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA20288 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 22:26:59 -0800 Received: from isc.lf.net (isc.LF.net [194.64.4.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA20602 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 22:26:57 -0800 Received: by isc.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.95/isc.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remotehost sparclx with uucp for mxu2.u.washington.edu id m0xqXu6-0000DlC; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 07:26:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de(really [192.9.200.142]) by mail.delta-ii.de via sendmail with smtp id for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 07:24:39 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jul-11) Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA05731; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 07:24:27 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 09 Jan 1998 07:24:27 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Sug (ID Y777J): (fwd) In-Reply-To: Ann Huynh Tran's message of "Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:26:42 -0800 (PST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ann Huynh Tran X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >>>On Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:26:42 -0800 (PST), Ann Huynh Tran said: AHT> Hi, please help me retrieve my old messages. I was asked if I AHT> wanted to empty out my folder and start from January to save AHT> space. I did so without thinking that it would delete all my old AHT> messages. How do I get them all back??? Hi, your message-id is something like 'Pine.SOL.3.95...'. Therefore, I guess that you are on a unix machine. If this holds true, you must ask your local sys admin whether she's got any backup tapes of your folder collection directory ($HOME/mail or whatever you've put into your .pinerc), because delete in the unix world doesn't provide any means to retrieve old files by guessing strange leading characters. On Windows systems it should be possible to get them back using undelete, but I'm absolutely the wrong person to answer this :-) Hmm ... Ed, is this statement correct? To all the others ... is this statement *not* offending? l8er, norbert. -- Norbert Koch a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 22:35:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA14139 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 22:35:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA22627; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 22:35:35 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA01977; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 22:32:13 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA15050 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 22:31:04 -0800 Received: from isc.lf.net (isc.LF.net [194.64.4.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA13669 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 22:31:02 -0800 Received: by isc.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.95/isc.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remotehost sparclx with uucp for mx5.u.washington.edu id m0xqXy4-0000DlC; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 07:30:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de(really [192.9.200.142]) by mail.delta-ii.de via sendmail with smtp id for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 07:30:52 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jul-11) Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA05795; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 07:30:41 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 09 Jan 1998 07:30:41 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: irrelevant posts (was: importing jewelry) In-Reply-To: "Adam H. Kerman"'s message of "Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:35:14 -0600 (CST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Adam H. Kerman" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >>>On Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:35:14 -0600 (CST), "Adam H. Kerman" said: [...crap...] AHK> Sigh. Who has a theory on how a Web page from the archives was AHK> the highest scoring hit for "filigree jewelry"? AHK> I assume this person isn't a subscriber. This is still an AHK> argument for modera- ting mail from nonsubscribers. Does anyone AHK> else think this is a good idea? Hi, you are absolutely right ... this is not a primary pine problem :-) The problem with moderation is: who's got the spare time and is willing/able to read/stand all the crap that is coming along the strange and twisted channels knocking at the pine mailing-list's door. It is certainly not possible for me, my chef is going to kill me on the spot :-/ just my 2p, norbert. -- Norbert Koch a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 02:28:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA15927 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 02:27:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA25377; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 02:27:55 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA12123; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 02:23:20 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA37096 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 02:22:04 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA14799 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 02:22:03 -0800 Received: from mallard.duc.auburn.edu (mallard2.duc.auburn.edu [131.204.2.23]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id CAA25336 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 02:22:00 -0800 Received: from localhost by mallard.duc.auburn.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id EAA28159; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 04:21:58 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 04:21:58 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Chi-Hao Hu To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: huchirh@mallard X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN what does it mean when it says "read-only" next to the word "inbox"? thank you ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Chi-Hao Hu e-mail - huchirh@mail.auburn.edu 111 Thomas St. Apt#7 -or- Auburn, Al 36832 Batman429@aol.com 334-826-7717 homepage - http://www.auburn.edu~huchirh ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A UUUUU A A UUUUU U A A U U AAAAAAA U U A A U UA AU AAAAAA AAAAAA U U UUUUUUUUUUU From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 02:46:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA16857 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 02:46:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA15521; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 02:46:42 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA08547; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 02:42:58 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA36908 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 02:41:51 -0800 Received: from pump2.york.ac.uk (pump2.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.12]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA15479 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 02:41:49 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk (pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.6]) by pump2.york.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA05798; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:41:46 GMT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:41:46 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: irrelevant posts In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Norbert Koch X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Just a thought... Rather than going the whole hog and turning the list into a moderated one (ie, have every article vetted by a human before passing on to the list at large) how about converting it to become a _closed_ list, so that only subscribers can post to it? Then people who haven't subscribed but try to post would get an error message back telling them that the list is a closed one, and presumably this could go on to explain (a) what the list is REALLY for, and (b) how to subscribe. This would avoid the burden on, and delays in postings caused by having to filter articles through, a humanoid whilst hopefully significantly cut down the junk from spammers, web-searchers, and other random odds-n-sods. Any comments anyone? -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On 9 Jan 1998, Norbert Koch wrote: > >>>On Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:35:14 -0600 (CST), "Adam H. Kerman" said: > > [...crap...] > > AHK> Sigh. Who has a theory on how a Web page from the archives was > AHK> the highest scoring hit for "filigree jewelry"? > > AHK> I assume this person isn't a subscriber. This is still an > AHK> argument for modera- ting mail from nonsubscribers. Does anyone > AHK> else think this is a good idea? > > Hi, > > you are absolutely right ... this is not a primary pine problem :-) > > The problem with moderation is: who's got the spare time and is > willing/able to read/stand all the crap that is coming along the > strange and twisted channels knocking at the pine mailing-list's > door. It is certainly not possible for me, my chef is going to kill me > on the spot :-/ > > just my 2p, norbert. > > -- > Norbert Koch From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 02:52:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA16929 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 02:52:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA25651; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 02:52:20 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA12584; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 02:48:25 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA44248 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 02:47:21 -0800 Received: from mailserv.tem.nhl.nl (mailserv.tem.nhl.nl [141.252.150.3]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id CAA15645 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 02:47:19 -0800 Received: from hio.tem.nhl.nl by mailserv.tem.nhl.nl id aa11807; 9 Jan 98 11:47 CET Received: from localhost by hio (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0) id AA04605; Fri, 9 Jan 98 11:41:54 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:41:53 +0100 (GMT+0100) Reply-To: Andreas Sikkema Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Andreas Sikkema To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: irrelevant posts In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Brudenell X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: sikke600@skutsje X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Rather than going the whole hog and turning the list into a moderated one > (ie, have every article vetted by a human before passing on to the list at > large) how about converting it to become a _closed_ list, so that only > subscribers can post to it? Then people who haven't subscribed but try to > post would get an error message back telling them that the list is a > closed one, and presumably this could go on to explain (a) what the list > is REALLY for, and (b) how to subscribe. This is the best suggestion I heard sofar. (PS I'm just a lurker, but I'm getting more and more annoyed with all this ch*ng*ng *f n*m*s) ___ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ Andreas Sikkema ___/ _/ _/ _/ sikke600@hio.tem.nhl.nl __ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/ Gato blanco, gato negro, lo _ _/ _/ _/ _/ importante es que cace ratones ___/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ www.engineering.tem.nhl.nl/~sikke600 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 03:26:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA17242 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 03:26:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA26035; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 03:25:57 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA13494; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 03:21:37 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA44008 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 03:20:36 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA24358 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 03:20:35 -0800 Received: from narpes.fi (www.narpes.fi [194.251.133.9]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA25993 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 03:20:25 -0800 Received: from localhost (jsjoberg@localhost) by narpes.fi (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA11649 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:17:22 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:17:15 +0200 (EET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: =?1?Q?Johan_Sj=F6berg?= To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: what MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN How can you send a letter to another person secret From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 03:42:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA16641 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 03:42:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA26241; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 03:42:45 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA13816; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 03:38:06 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA34690 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 03:36:54 -0800 Received: from isc.lf.net (isc.LF.net [194.64.4.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA29549 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 03:36:53 -0800 Received: by isc.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.95/isc.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remotehost sparclx with uucp for mxu2.u.washington.edu id m0xqcjh-000qQKC; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:36:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de(really [192.9.200.142]) by mail.delta-ii.de via sendmail with smtp id for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:36:18 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jul-11) Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA10970; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:36:09 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 09 Jan 1998 12:36:09 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: question In-Reply-To: Chi-Hao Hu's message of "Fri, 9 Jan 1998 04:21:58 -0600 (CST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Chi-Hao Hu X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >>>On Fri, 9 Jan 1998 04:21:58 -0600 (CST), Chi-Hao Hu said: chh> what does it mean when it says "read-only" next to the word chh> "inbox"? thank you hmmm, maybe that the inbox is read only and you can't work with the mails in it apart from reading them? But well, let's see ... either you started pine with a '-o' switch (that's read only for the first folder) or another pine process is allocating your inbox. In the second case, which is announced by pine at start up time, kill the other process (you know ... ps -ef | grep pine ; kill -9 ). l8er, norbert. -- Norbert Koch a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 03:53:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA17553 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 03:53:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA16244; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 03:52:58 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA44290; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 03:47:15 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA41090 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 03:45:50 -0800 Received: from isc.lf.net (isc.LF.net [194.64.4.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA24195 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 03:45:48 -0800 Received: by isc.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.95/isc.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remotehost sparclx with uucp for mx5.u.washington.edu id m0xqcsh-000qS0C; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:45:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de(really [192.9.200.142]) by mail.delta-ii.de via sendmail with smtp id for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:45:39 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jul-11) Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA11082; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:45:38 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 09 Jan 1998 12:45:37 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: irrelevant posts In-Reply-To: Mike Brudenell's message of "Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:41:46 +0000 (GMT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Brudenell X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >>>On Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:41:46 +0000 (GMT), Mike Brudenell said: MB> Just a thought... Rather than going the whole hog and turning MB> the list into a moderated one (ie, have every article vetted by a MB> human before passing on to the list at large) how about MB> converting it to become a _closed_ list, so that only subscribers MB> can post to it? Then people who haven't subscribed but try to MB> post would get an error message back telling them that the list MB> is a closed one, and presumably this could go on to explain (a) MB> what the list is REALLY for, and (b) how to subscribe. [...] MB> Any comments anyone? Of course :-) The suggestion sounds quite good to me ... the only problem might be, imo, that point (b) only delays the emergence of off-topic mails, but it's worth a try. Point (a) is *very* interesting, since this mailing-list has been set up in order to separate more technically based questions on pine from FAQs that are to be posted to comp.mail.whine (oops :-). In fact, FAQs shouldn't be posted at all, but that's a different cup of tea. Ed, Robin what do you think? l8er, norbert. -- Norbert Koch a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 04:00:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA17596 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 04:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA16323; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 03:59:57 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA09748; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 03:53:56 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA41792 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 03:52:54 -0800 Received: from bramber.windsor.com (bramber.windsor.com [199.181.96.54]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id DAA29902 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 03:52:53 -0800 Received: (from erics@localhost) by bramber.windsor.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id GAA01777 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 06:52:52 -0500 Message-Id: <199801091152.GAA01777@bramber.windsor.com> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 06:52:52 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: EricSmith@windsor.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Eric V. Smith" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Garbage in mail bodies using IMAP and Exchange 5.5 Content-Type: text X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm using Pine 3.96 on FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE talking to a Microsoft Exchange 5.5 machine. My problem is that when I attach to my Exchange inbox using IMAP, the mail bodies are displayed as garbage characters that contain random characters. Sometimes part of the message is displayed and the end is truncaged and/or garbage, and sometimes just garbage is displayed. The headers always look fine. This is not just a display problem, because if I forward the mail to another machine (not running Pine), it sees this garbage also. This leads me to believe that the problem is in the mail itself, and is not just a display issue. I've put a sniffer on the line to see what is being transferred back and forth from Exchange. Everything looks okay. The entire message is transmitted from Exchange with no garbage and no truncation. Still the mail doesn't show correctly in Pine. I do not have similar problem when looking at a local mailbox. Has anyone heard of this problem? Any hints as to what to try? I've looked through the archives but I could not find any information. Thanks in advance. Eric. -- Eric V. Smith | For opinion in good men is but knowledge EricSmith@windsor.com | in the making. Windsor Software Corp +----------------------------------+ John Milton http://www.windsor.com/ Windows NT, Unix, SQL Server | 1608-74 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 04:06:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA18219 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 04:06:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA16618; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 04:06:35 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA10053; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 04:02:38 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA41784 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 04:01:20 -0800 Received: from isc.lf.net (isc.LF.net [194.64.4.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA17442 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 04:01:13 -0800 Received: by isc.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.95/isc.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remotehost sparclx with uucp for mx4.u.washington.edu id m0xqd7Y-000oXXC; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:01:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de(really [192.9.200.142]) by mail.delta-ii.de via sendmail with smtp id for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:00:58 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jul-11) Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA11405; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:00:53 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 09 Jan 1998 13:00:52 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: what In-Reply-To: =?1?Q?Johan_Sj=F6berg?='s message of "Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:17:15 +0200 (EET)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: =?1?Q?Johan_Sj=F6berg?= X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >>>On Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:17:15 +0200 (EET), =?1?Q?Johan_Sj=F6berg?= said: Hi, first of all ... please have a look at your slightly mal formatted name :-) it's not very easy to pronounce, is it? j> How can you send a letter to another person secret Hmm, we had a discussion about this not long ago. Why in all world would you need to send a letter to someone secret. Btw, what do you mean, when you write secret? l8er, norbert. -- Norbert Koch a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 05:44:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA19565 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 05:44:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA27862; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 05:43:58 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA12816; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 05:39:21 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA11154 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 05:38:10 -0800 Received: from green.indy.net (green.indy.net [199.3.65.18]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA00158 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 05:38:09 -0800 Received: from indy4.indy.net (root@indy4.indy.net [199.3.65.4]) by green.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA09158 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:38:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (pfarabee@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by indy4.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA08312 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:38:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:38:33 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Noone Special To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Sug (ID Y777J): (fwd) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: pfarabee@indy4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > On Windows systems it should be possible to get them back using > undelete, but I'm absolutely the wrong person to answer this :-) Well.. unless she's running WinBlows 95 (no undelete unless you can find one on the net somewhere.. if you do, lemme know ;) 95 has the recycle bin, but that is Windows specific. If you delete a file any other way than "moving it to the recycle bin".. it's GONE Pat From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 06:55:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA19993 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 06:55:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA28702; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 06:55:49 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA50330; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 06:51:29 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA44256 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 06:48:54 -0800 Received: from beacon.eastern.edu (BEACON.EASTERN.EDU [204.78.0.198]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id GAA03280 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 06:48:49 -0800 Received: from jcarpent ([204.78.2.206]) by beacon.eastern.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09930; Fri, 9 Jan 98 09:43:14 EST Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980109145306.009953bc@beacon.eastern.edu> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 09:53:06 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jim Carpenter To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: irrelevant posts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: jcarpent@beacon.eastern.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN At 10:41 AM 1/9/98 +0000, Mike Brudenell wrote: >Rather than going the whole hog and turning the list into a moderated one >(ie, have every article vetted by a human before passing on to the list at >large) how about converting it to become a _closed_ list, so that only >subscribers can post to it? Then people who haven't subscribed but try to >post would get an error message back telling them that the list is a >closed one, and presumably this could go on to explain (a) what the list >is REALLY for, and (b) how to subscribe. IMHO: bravo, ditto, etc! Jim Carpenter Manager of Student Information Systems Eastern College Saint Davids, PA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 07:34:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA20443 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 07:34:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA19261; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 07:34:48 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA17769; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 07:29:32 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA21454 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 07:27:21 -0800 Received: from bkb01-ims-01.us.ikom.net (bkb01-ims-01.ikon.com [205.145.58.62]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA04095 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 07:27:20 -0800 Received: by BKB01-IMS-01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:27:19 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:27:08 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Everett, Marty" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: RE: Garbage in mail bodies using IMAP and Exchange 5.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-To: Pine Discussion Forum , "'Eric V. Smith'" X-Cc: "Wyant, Rich" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have seen this problem here also. What I found is the it is a problem word mail on exchange client side. If I create a message from exchange client using the default editor ( NOT WORD or what is called WORD MAIL ) then the message and send it then check the message with pine looks fine. If I use WORD MAIL on the exchange client then send it and check it with pine I have trash at the end of the message. I think this is because WORD MAIL is not ending the document correctly. But I am still working on it. Can you run a test like this a see if you find the same thing. Also can anyone tell me what to look for in the format of the mail message to find out what WORD MAIL might be doing wrong in the email message format. If I can find that then I think I can get Microsloth to look at it. Thanks Marty ---------- From: Eric V. Smith[SMTP:EricSmith@windsor.com] Sent: Friday, January 09, 1998 6:53 AM To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Garbage in mail bodies using IMAP and Exchange 5.5 I'm using Pine 3.96 on FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE talking to a Microsoft Exchange 5.5 machine. My problem is that when I attach to my Exchange inbox using IMAP, the mail bodies are displayed as garbage characters that contain random characters. Sometimes part of the message is displayed and the end is truncaged and/or garbage, and sometimes just garbage is displayed. The headers always look fine. This is not just a display problem, because if I forward the mail to another machine (not running Pine), it sees this garbage also. This leads me to believe that the problem is in the mail itself, and is not just a display issue. I've put a sniffer on the line to see what is being transferred back and forth from Exchange. Everything looks okay. The entire message is transmitted from Exchange with no garbage and no truncation. Still the mail doesn't show correctly in Pine. I do not have similar problem when looking at a local mailbox. Has anyone heard of this problem? Any hints as to what to try? I've looked through the archives but I could not find any information. Thanks in advance. Eric. -- Eric V. Smith | For opinion in good men is but knowledge EricSmith@windsor.com | in the making. Windsor Software Corp +----------------------------------+ John Milton http://www.windsor.com/ Windows NT, Unix, SQL Server | 1608-74 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:34:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA21305 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:34:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA20398; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:34:15 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA21394; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:30:20 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA29218 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:28:58 -0800 Received: from quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.19]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA00919 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:28:56 -0800 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.13]) by quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA31562 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:28:53 -0700 Received: from localhost (maldridg@localhost) by gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA54284 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:28:53 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:28:53 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Lea To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: what In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Pine Information List X-Sender: maldridg@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, [1] Johan Sj=F6berg wrote: > How can you send a letter to another person secret Do it very quietly. Re closing the list to subscribers only: I'm probably wrong and too tired to think straight anyhow, but just a sec - I thought that one of the main reasons we have such a problem with off-topic posts on the mailing list is that the pine newsgroup gateways posts to list. Is that right? I probably explained it wrong, but basically I thought there was some sort of transfer between the two entities. If we stopped the newsgroup-to-mailing-list flow, wouldn't that fix the problem? Lea From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:46:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA21548 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:46:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA00994; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:46:23 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA26396; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:42:44 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA29078 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:41:14 -0800 Received: from bramber.windsor.com (bramber.windsor.com [199.181.96.54]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id IAA01869 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:41:01 -0800 Received: (from erics@localhost) by bramber.windsor.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA04674; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:40:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199801091640.LAA04674@bramber.windsor.com> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:40:49 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: EricSmith@windsor.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Eric V. Smith" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Garbage in mail bodies using IMAP and Exchange 5.5 In-Reply-To: from "Everett, Marty" at Jan 9, 98 10:27:08 am Content-Type: text X-To: MEverett@IKON.com (Everett, Marty) X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I get the problem even when I create the mail by telnetting into the smtp port on the mail server and typing in a straight ASCII message. My particular problem doesn't depend on the type of client being used. Eric. Everett, Marty wrote: > > I have seen this problem here also. What I found is the it is a problem > word mail on exchange client side. If I create a message from exchange > client using the default editor ( NOT WORD or what is called WORD MAIL ) > then the message and send it then check the message with pine looks > fine. If I use WORD MAIL on the exchange client then send it and check > it with pine I have trash at the end of the message. I think this is > because WORD MAIL is not ending the document correctly. But I am still > working on it. Can you run a test like this a see if you find the same > thing. > > Also can anyone tell me what to look for in the format of the mail > message to find out what WORD MAIL might be doing wrong in the email > message format. If I can find that then I think I can get Microsloth to > look at it. > > Thanks Marty > > ---------- > From: Eric V. Smith[SMTP:EricSmith@windsor.com] > Sent: Friday, January 09, 1998 6:53 AM > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Garbage in mail bodies using IMAP and Exchange 5.5 > > I'm using Pine 3.96 on FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE talking to a > Microsoft > Exchange 5.5 machine. > > My problem is that when I attach to my Exchange inbox using > IMAP, > the mail bodies are displayed as garbage characters that contain > random characters. Sometimes part of the message is displayed > and the end is truncaged and/or garbage, and sometimes just > garbage > is displayed. The headers always look fine. > > This is not just a display problem, because if I forward the > mail > to another machine (not running Pine), it sees this garbage > also. > This leads me to believe that the problem is in the mail itself, > and is not just a display issue. > > I've put a sniffer on the line to see what is being transferred > back and forth from Exchange. Everything looks okay. The > entire > message is transmitted from Exchange with no garbage and no > truncation. Still the mail doesn't show correctly in Pine. > > I do not have similar problem when looking at a local mailbox. > > Has anyone heard of this problem? Any hints as to what to try? > I've looked through the archives but I could not find any > information. > > Thanks in advance. > > Eric. > > -- > Eric V. Smith | For opinion in good men is but > knowledge > EricSmith@windsor.com | in the making. > Windsor Software Corp +----------------------------------+ > John Milton > http://www.windsor.com/ Windows NT, Unix, SQL Server | > 1608-74 > > -- Eric V. Smith | For opinion in good men is but knowledge EricSmith@windsor.com | in the making. Windsor Software Corp +----------------------------------+ John Milton http://www.windsor.com/ Windows NT, Unix, SQL Server | 1608-74 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:53:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA21584 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:53:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA01120; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:53:41 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA41858; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:46:31 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA39328 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:44:46 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA11350 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:44:43 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA21408 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:43:39 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:43:39 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: irrelevant posts In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Norbert Koch >Date: 09 Jan 1998 12:45:37 +0100 >On Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:41:46 +0000 (GMT), Mike Brudenell >said: >>Then people who haven't subscribed but try to post would get an error message >>back telling them that the list is a closed one, and presumably this could go >>on to explain (a) what the list is REALLY for, and (b) how to subscribe. >The suggestion sounds quite good to me ... the only problem might be, imo, >that point (b) only delays the emergence of off-topic mails, but it's worth a >try. Point (a) is *very* interesting, since this mailing-list has been set up >in order to separate more technically based questions on pine from FAQs that >are to be posted to comp.mail.whine (oops :-). First, however, the explanation must be given on every Web page in the archives that has a mailto: URL. This is where the irrelevant questions originate from. Does anyone want to admit to being the listowner or the Webmaster? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:54:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA21630 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:54:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA20802; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:54:30 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA23168; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:49:49 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA37134 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:47:38 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA02448 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:47:34 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA21439 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:46:36 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:46:36 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: mail to news gateway (was: what) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Lea >Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:28:53 -0700 (MST) >I thought that one of the main reasons we have such a problem with off-topic >posts on the mailing list is that the pine newsgroup gateways posts to list. The gateway was eliminated several months ago. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:06:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA22168 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:06:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA01506; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:06:09 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA27341; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:51:45 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA41216 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:50:15 -0800 Received: from pump2.york.ac.uk (pump2.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.12]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA10613 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:50:11 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk (pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.6]) by pump2.york.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA16509; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 16:49:59 GMT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 16:49:58 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: what In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Lea X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN It was indeed bi-directionally gatewayed to comp.mail.pine for quite a long time. However the gatewaying broke and nobody noticed for 2-3 months. They then sought opinion on the List whether the gateway should be re-established and the result was, if memory serves, that it shouldn't be. The idea was, I think, that comp.mail.pine would be more newbie-question-ish whilst pine-info focussed more on discussing ways of improving and devloping Pine. Mark Crispin/David Miller/Another Pine Team Entity... care to comment? -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Lea wrote: > Re closing the list to subscribers only: I'm probably wrong and > too tired to think straight anyhow, but just a sec - I thought > that one of the main reasons we have such a problem with > off-topic posts on the mailing list is that the pine newsgroup > gateways posts to list. Is that right? I probably explained it > wrong, but basically I thought there was some sort of transfer > between the two entities. If we stopped the > newsgroup-to-mailing-list flow, wouldn't that fix the problem? > > Lea From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:44:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA22966 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:44:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA22147; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:44:04 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA01146; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:36:09 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA37734 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:34:31 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA06849 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:34:27 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (skramer@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id JAA19156 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:34:25 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:34:25 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Stefan Kramer To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: irrelevant posts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In order to hopefully cut down somewhat on that phenomenon of people performing searches in WWW indexes, retrieving pages from the pine-info (converted-to-HTML) archives as a result, and then writing to the list on non-Pine topics, I have added a blurb to the HTML files for individual messages and listings of messages. Also, the individual-message HTML files now contain the element: which should eventually reduce the presence of pine-info postings in WWW indexes. All this is in effect only for the current month's (Jan. '98) messages now, and will be for the entire archives starting early next month. With luck, that will help a bit with reducing irrelevant posts. ------------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu PINE Information Center http://www.washington.edu/pine/ Computing & Communications University of Washington ------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:54:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA23204 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:54:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA02657; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:54:21 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA37650; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:45:04 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA24504 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:43:31 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA07693 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:43:29 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA22101 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:42:31 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:42:31 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: irrelevant posts In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Stefan Kramer >Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:34:25 -0800 (PST) >In order to hopefully cut down somewhat on that phenomenon of people >performing searches in WWW indexes, retrieving pages from the pine-info >(converted-to-HTML) archives as a result, and then writing to the list on >non-Pine topics, I have added a blurb to the HTML files for individual >messages and listings of messages. What will the blurb say? Legxl nxme chxnge has now been asked so many times, it should be a FAQ. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:08:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA23529 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA22756; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:08:29 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA03445; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:03:11 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA27960 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:01:45 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA18191 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:01:44 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (skramer@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id KAA19815; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:01:33 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:01:32 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: Stefan Kramer Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Stefan Kramer To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: irrelevant posts In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Adam H. Kerman" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > .... > What will the blurb say? > .... Take a look at any page under http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/1998.01/ -- if it's not noticeable enough, I could make it ?! ------------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu PINE Information Center http://www.washington.edu/pine/ Computing & Communications University of Washington ------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:27:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA23890 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:27:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA23187; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:26:56 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA24470; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:21:07 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA42582 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:20:00 -0800 Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA05122 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:19:58 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.11) with SMTP id KAA11849; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:19:50 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:19:48 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David L Miller To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: what In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Brudenell X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Mike Brudenell wrote: > It was indeed bi-directionally gatewayed to comp.mail.pine for quite a > long time. However the gatewaying broke and nobody noticed for 2-3 > months. > > They then sought opinion on the List whether the gateway should be > re-established and the result was, if memory serves, that it shouldn't be. > Yup. Another factor was that no-one stepped forward as a volunteer to re-establish and maintain the gateway. > The idea was, I think, that comp.mail.pine would be more > newbie-question-ish whilst pine-info focussed more on discussing ways of > improving and devloping Pine. That was the hope, though I haven't really seen much shift in that direction :-( We would love to restrict pine-info postings to subscribers, but there are just too many pointers to it floating around. When/if Listproc can generate a satisfactory "bounce" message for non-subscribers, we may consider the restriction. BTW, we're also considering a way to allow posting to comp.mail.pine through the (re-designed) Bug Report screen. -- David L. Miller | The opposite of a correct Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | statement is a false statement. Box 354841, University of Washington | The opposite of a profound truth 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | may well be another profound Phone: (206)685-6240 FAX: (206)685-4045 | truth. -- Niels Bohr From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:02:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA24814 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:02:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA24118; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:02:37 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA04048; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:57:21 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA41820 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:55:45 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA14949 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:55:42 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA15120; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:55:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:54:22 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: what In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Lea X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Lea wrote: > Re closing the list to subscribers only: I'm probably wrong and > too tired to think straight anyhow, but just a sec - I thought > that one of the main reasons we have such a problem with > off-topic posts on the mailing list is that the pine newsgroup > gateways posts to list. Is that right? I probably explained it > wrong, but basically I thought there was some sort of transfer > between the two entities. If we stopped the > newsgroup-to-mailing-list flow, wouldn't that fix the problem? more like the webtraffic-to-mailing-list flow--make them either type in the email address of the list, or else make the only place one can get to it on a page which says in big letters "Pine is an email program. This is a list for questions about pine. Not anything else." it might help From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:09:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA24977 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:09:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA24283; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:09:15 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA04855; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:03:50 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA44074 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:59:15 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA15288 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:59:12 -0800 Received: from ops_svr (ip32.irvine.quik.com [207.38.102.32]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA47014; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 18:57:45 GMT Message-Id: <004101bd1ced$0e5face0$206626cf@ops_svr> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:33:15 -0000 Reply-To: "Colin J. Raven" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: irrelevant posts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Adam H. Kerman" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN OK, let's get hold of the list owner, and take this to the next step. Otherwise we'll continue to endure the same blistering "asbestos gloves" nonsense concerning irrelevant posts and I for one would rather help fix it, than complain about it, and have to read Robin's "insult du jour" which bless his heart...gets real old after a while. I don't mind moderating a new list, I just want the problem to go away by proactive means. I welcome any suggestions you can come up with. I asked two people who mis-posted (after *politely* telling them where they had posted to, and why it/we couldn't help 'em) to send me URL's of any *actual" resource on the name change thig. If I can get hold of those URL(s) I'll do up a recipe in procmail to send out an autoresponse that will take care of those posts. In the meantime, I wish I knew that anyone from the University actually read anything from the lists! >I don't know who the Webmaster is, and who the list-owner is. The Webmaster >would need to change the archives to clearly give a description of pine on any >Web page that has a mailto: URL. I got a letter today on "lxgal nxme chxnge". From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:10:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA24940 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:10:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA04430; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:09:55 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA04561; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:01:05 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA39224 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:58:54 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA23246 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:58:49 -0800 Received: from ops_svr (ip32.irvine.quik.com [207.38.102.32]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA53140; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 18:57:43 GMT Message-Id: <004001bd1ced$0d4fc380$206626cf@ops_svr> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:18:54 -0000 Reply-To: "Colin J. Raven" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Messages not delivered MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Carolyn; You should immediately contact your *local* systems administrator about this. Members of this list could not render any assistance whatsoever, it's a problem which must be resolved within your network locally, there are a dozen possible reasons that this could be happening, and none of us could troubleshoot your local network. Sorry we couldn't be of more help to you and Good Luck! -Colin -----Original Message----- From: wl_csmith@SEOVCA.SEOVEC.OHIO.GOV To: Pine Discussion Forum Date: Friday, January 09, 1998 3:01 AM Subject: Messages not delivered > > >For the past four days, I have not been receiving all my e-mail. Only >part of the messages are getting through. I've sent myself test messages >as well as messages to a group. These are not getting through. Messages >to certain individuals are being delivered. Any suggestions? > >Carolyn Smith > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:15:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA25930 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:15:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA05844; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:15:21 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA14041; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:10:34 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA33804 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:08:38 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA00831 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:08:36 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA23826 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:07:36 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:07:36 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: irrelevant posts In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Stefan Kramer >Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:01:32 -0800 (PST) >Take a look at any page under >http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/1998.01/ That should be fine. >if it's not noticeable enough, I could make it ?! No, make it activate the mallet-attached-to-ANSI. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:48:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA26538 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:48:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA26337; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:48:13 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA41826; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:43:23 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA39290 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:42:10 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA03206 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:42:07 -0800 Received: from localhost (skramer@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id MAA28026 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:42:06 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:42:04 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: Stefan Kramer Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Stefan Kramer To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: irrelevant posts In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Since at least some irrelevant posts seem to come to the list via people clicking on the links on the individual messages' WWW pages in the archives, those will also no longer be generated -- for the current month starting tomorrow, for the other months starting early next month. ------------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu PINE Information Center http://www.washington.edu/pine/ Computing & Communications University of Washington ------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:23:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA27542 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:23:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA07311; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:23:51 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA42788; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:17:45 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA36850 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:15:36 -0800 Received: from hotmail.com ([207.82.251.43]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id NAA21923 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:15:35 -0800 Received: (qmail 9116 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jan 1998 21:15:30 -0000 Received: from 199.238.226.1 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Jan 1998 13:15:30 PST Message-Id: <19980109211530.9115.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 13:15:30 PST Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Roberto Jauregui" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: help /// Content-Type: text/plain X-Originating-IP: [199.238.226.1] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN okay i'm new using pine ..... :) and i need some help, i try to make some filtering file ! So i did this ?..... ~/mail/ ~/mail/filtering/ how can i make this work ...( ~/mail/filtering/ ) i need to put something inside the file ( filtering ) like ( e-mails ) that i not wanna can someone tell me what's next ..... thanks in advance .... Life is Short @ just be you self ... bi974r@hotmail.com www.scn.org/news/ Java is not JavaScript @ (t) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:14:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA28974 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:14:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA08678; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:14:34 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA21774; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:09:01 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA03420 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:07:53 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA10785 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:07:49 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA19713; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:08:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:06:54 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: Drachen Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help /// In-Reply-To: <19980109211530.9115.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Roberto Jauregui X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN there's some nice info about it at http://www.ii.com/internet/faqs/launchers/mail/filtering-faq/ This doesn't work if you're using IMAP..and that's a solution that I'm working on in my (never copious) free time. Vinnie On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Roberto Jauregui wrote: > okay i'm new using pine ..... :) > and i need some help, i try to make some filtering file ! So i did this > ?..... > ~/mail/ > ~/mail/filtering/ > how can i make this work ...( ~/mail/filtering/ ) > i need to put something inside the file ( filtering ) like ( e-mails ) > that i not wanna > can someone tell me what's next ..... > thanks in advance .... > Life is Short @ just be you self ... > bi974r@hotmail.com > www.scn.org/news/ > Java is not JavaScript > @ (t) > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 17:51:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA00856 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 17:51:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA13224; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 17:51:26 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA07949; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 17:48:29 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA41196 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 17:47:12 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA11729 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 17:47:11 -0800 Received: from ds11.acs.ucalgary.ca (root@ds11.acs.ucalgary.ca [136.159.244.11]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id RAA03307 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 17:47:08 -0800 Received: by acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA29862; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 18:46:21 -0700 Message-Id: <9801100146.AA29862@acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 98 18:46:17 MST Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Connie Yuen" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: ?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To Pine... I would like to have more than 1 plan (or project) for my account... I currently have 1... but... I would like to have more than one so that whenever I log in... I can retrieve the saved plans (projects)... I would like to know how I can save more than 1 plan (or project) in a file... and how to retrieve it??/ Thank you for your time... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 20:56:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA02449 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 20:56:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA15421; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 20:56:52 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA14897; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 20:54:11 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA33692 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 20:51:06 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA20050 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 20:51:04 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 12:49:40 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 12:49:40 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: what In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: =?1?Q?Johan_Sj=F6berg?= X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, [1] Johan Sj=F6berg wrote: > How can you send a letter to another person secret By "secret" do you mean that only the intended receipient can read it? There are various methods for doing this. However, both ends need to=20 support the method being used. I use PGP for this purpose. http://www.pgp.com --=20 Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:42:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA11131 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:42:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA25252; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:42:08 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA07209; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:37:23 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA43364 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:34:57 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA03548 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:34:56 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA48748 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 19:33:59 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:33:58 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Moderating Newbie List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Group X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ok,U/Wash has kindly modified their web page(s) to avoid getting hits on "legal name change" to this list, does anyone still feel that a separate moderated list should exist in order to prune new posings? Is there a concensus on this? -Colin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 03:04:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA20082 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 03:04:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA05504; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 03:04:25 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA02671; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 03:01:19 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA38260 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 03:00:10 -0800 Received: from shivax.cac.washington.edu (3031@shivax.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.4]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA11631 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 03:00:08 -0800 Received: (from skramer@localhost) by shivax.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) id DAA23557 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 03:00:06 -0800 Message-Id: <199801111100.DAA23557@shivax.cac.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 03:00:06 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: pine-robot@docserver.cac.washington.edu To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: WHERE TO FIND INFORMATION ABOUT PINE X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is being sent to this mailing list weekly in order to aid readers in finding information about Pine. Before sending questions to the mailing list, please consult these resources: The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive help. Additional information, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, Questions & Answers, where to obtain the Pine software, what tools are available to perform tasks that Pine itself does not, and more, can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form. - The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[] The messages from this mailing list are archived. These archives can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ (includes a searchable index of all archived messages, and information on how to subscribe to this mailing list) - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/pine-info/. - From within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] Please note: the mailing list is no longer mirrored in the comp.mail.pine newsgroup. If you have a question about Pine, chances are it has been asked before and you can find the answer either through the searchable index of past messages, or among the "Questions & Answers" at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/ or ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt If you need personal assistance with using or configuring Pine, contact the technical support staff or computer help desk of YOUR Internet Service Provider, school, university, employer, ... -- whichever organization provided you with the email account on which you are using, or planning on using, Pine. Because system functions and configuration can vary from site to site, they are best qualified to assist you. (Due to the large number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington cannot provide individual support services to Pine users at other organizations.) Sun Jan 11 03:00:06 PST 1998 ----------------------------------- Pine development and support team University of Washington Computing & Communications ----------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 03:29:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA20086 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 03:29:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA05781; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 03:29:30 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA00531; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 03:27:17 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA36726 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 03:26:46 -0800 Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.245]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA18545 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 03:26:45 -0800 Received: from alpha.computers.org (ssdipola@slip139-92-33-100.lju.si.ibm.net [139.92.33.100]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA55914 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 11:26:35 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:28:50 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: News! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@alpha.computers.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello !!! I use newsfetch to access my news. It works perfectly with Pine. But when i want to replay to some news, then pine tries to lookup all news on server. Can be this somehow dissabled and be still able sending news??? Bye. xxxxxx ////// xx xx ( o o ) xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ xxxx | From: Iztok Polanic | xx xx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | xx xx | WWW: http://www2.arnes.si/~ssdipola | xx xx \-----------------------------------------/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 11:12:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA00807 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 11:12:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA10662; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 11:00:54 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA09047; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 10:57:33 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA34310 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 10:56:12 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA16908 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 10:56:10 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA13558 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 18:55:12 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 10:55:11 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: News! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Group X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Go to the main menu screen of Pine, select "S" (setup) "C" (Configure) and tab down to "nntp server" It should be set to which will cause Pine to ignore the existence of a news server. BTW, before doing that, you might also check out Pine's newsgroup feature set. It's nicely integrated with the mail client, and is usually a fast and easy newsreader to use. That however, is just IMHO (In My Humble Opinion) others may have religous fervor concerning the newsreader you should use. At the end of the day, it's what suits *you* best that decides the issue. You can't beat the simplicity of Pine's newsreader though. Good Luck! -Colin > I use newsfetch to access my news. It works perfectly with Pine. But when > i want to replay to some news, then pine tries to lookup all news on > server. Can be this somehow dissabled and be still able sending news??? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:29:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA01374 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:29:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA11880; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:29:46 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA13141; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:27:08 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA50162 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:25:30 -0800 Received: from pcug.org.au (supreme.pcug.org.au [203.10.76.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA13123 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:25:28 -0800 Received: from supreme (supreme [203.10.76.34]) by pcug.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7/TIP-1.12) with SMTP id HAA16783; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:25:21 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:25:18 +1100 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Felix Karpfen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: File transfer problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: felkarp@supreme X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This request for help relates not to a problem experienced with the Pine program, but with an associated program which also needs to work in order to use all the features available by the Pine program. I take the liberty to send it to this newsgroup, because the local Service Provider has not been able to help and I do not know where else to send it. The relevant associated program is concerned with transferring files between my `home' directory use by the Pine program and the hard drive of my PC. This program has two available routines - one (sz) for moving files from the Pine `home' directory to my PC and the second (rz) for moving files from my PC to my Pine `home' directory. When either routine is invoked, the routine requests an argument and a file name but from that point the behaviour is different. With the `sz' routine, the name of the file to be transferred to the PC is sufficient for the transfer to occur. However, when the `rz' routine without an argument is invoked and an attempt is made to use the Communication Program's `send routine' (which works smoothly with the local Bulletin Board), the appropriate `send screen' is displayed but no file transfer occurs. From this, I presume that the argument requested by the rz routine is not an optional extra. The attached help screen lists 10 different arguments that can be used with the `rz' routine. However, the screen gives no information about the circumstances in which such use would be appropriate. I am reluctant to take a `trial-and-error' approach in case I louse up my `home' directory. I am therefore trying my luck by sending a request for help to this newsgroup in the hope that someone will either recognise and have an answer to the problem or will be able to tell me where this inquiry should be sent to in order to get an answer. I might add that I have no problems in preparing a text offline, copying the text to the Windows' clipboard and then pasting it into the appropriate area when in Pine's Message Composer. However, if I wanted to send two different Email messages in the same session, then I would be history. Thank you in advance to anyone who responds to this request for help. Felix Karpfen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:58:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA01691 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:58:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA12262; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:58:12 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA16775; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:55:13 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA35840 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:54:08 -0800 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA29609 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:54:06 -0800 Received: from alpha.computers.org (ssdipola@slip139-92-33-73.lju.si.ibm.net [139.92.33.73]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA33882; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:54:00 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:56:14 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: News! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Colin J. Raven" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@alpha.computers.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello !!! If I do that then i can't post new to usenet!!! What about that :] Bye. On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Colin J. Raven wrote: > Go to the main menu screen of Pine, select "S" (setup) "C" (Configure) and > tab down to "nntp server" > It should be set to which will cause Pine to ignore the > existence of a news server. > BTW, before doing that, you might also check out Pine's newsgroup feature > set. It's nicely integrated with the mail client, and is usually a fast > and easy newsreader to use. That however, is just IMHO (In My Humble > Opinion) others may have religous fervor concerning the newsreader you > should use. At the end of the day, it's what suits *you* best that decides > the issue. You can't beat the simplicity of Pine's newsreader though. > Good Luck! > -Colin > > > I use newsfetch to access my news. It works perfectly with Pine. But when > > i want to replay to some news, then pine tries to lookup all news on > > server. Can be this somehow dissabled and be still able sending news??? > > > xxxxxx ////// xx xx ( o o ) xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ xxxx | From: Iztok Polanic | xx xx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | xx xx | WWW: http://www2.arnes.si/~ssdipola | xx xx \-----------------------------------------/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:37:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA02626 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:37:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA04030; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:37:01 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA21731; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:33:52 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA36002 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:32:45 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA04280 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:32:45 -0800 Received: from mis.USIU.AC.KE (AfOL-Gateway.africaonline.com [199.103.213.124]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA13333 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:32:39 -0800 Received: from usiu.ac.ke (rvalli@usiu.ac.ke [10.176.100.249]) by mis.USIU.AC.KE (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id BAA00445 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 01:35:22 +0300 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 01:51:36 +0300 (EAT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Mujtaba H.R. Valli" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 15:05:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA02878 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 15:05:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA13769; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 15:05:15 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA23091; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 15:02:58 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA13480 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 15:01:45 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id PAA05364 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 15:01:42 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 12 Jan 98 00:01:18 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA00651; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 00:17:13 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 12 Jan 1998 00:17:13 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: News! In-Reply-To: Iztok Polanic's message of "Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:56:14 +0100 (MET)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Iztok Polanic X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> Iztok Polanic writes: > Hello !!! If I do that then i can't post new to usenet!!! What > about that :] That's pretty cool until you've learnt to crop your quotes. Maybe you'd like to rm /usr/bin/sendmail, too? Robin "SCNR" Socha -- Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept., Bonn University If Windows 95 were your car, you'd never get anywhere. You'd be too busy breaking down. (Brian Knox) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 17:33:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA04175 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 17:33:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA15541; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 17:33:22 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA25315; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 17:31:04 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA45810 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 17:29:05 -0800 Received: from results.resultsp.com.mx (rodolfo@[140.148.120.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id RAA12643 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 17:29:03 -0800 Received: from localhost (rodolfo@localhost) by results.resultsp.com.mx (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA30654 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:29:27 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:29:26 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rodolfo Gonzalez Gonzalez To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pico's secure mode (?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, I don't know if this is the right place to ask it, but any help will be appreciated: how can I activate the "secure mode" of Pico?. I've been looking the source code, and I found some #define's about this, but I don't know what to do with them... Thanks. Rodolfo. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 17:40:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA04226 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 17:40:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA15651; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 17:40:23 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA28416; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 17:38:12 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA43288 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 17:36:17 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA26949 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 17:36:16 -0800 Received: from mrin39.mx.aol.com (mrin39.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.149]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA15584 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 17:36:14 -0800 Received: (from root@localhost) by mrin39.mx.aol.com (8.8.5/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA27293 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:35:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <980111203541_2017101650@mrin39.mx> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:35:43 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: DRudi9140@aol.com To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Research X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Help!! How do you get to the great places on the net through pine???? rudi@nevada.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:31:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA06032 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:31:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA08894; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:31:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA04602; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:27:47 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA23450 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:24:38 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA24166 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:24:36 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA23476 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 23:23:42 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 23:23:42 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Moderating Newbie List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: "Colin J. Raven" >Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:33:58 -0800 (PST) >Ok,U/Wash has kindly modified their web page(s) to avoid getting >hits on "legal name change" to this list, does anyone still feel that a >separate moderated list should exist in order to prune new posings? >Is there a concensus on this? I'm still in favor of moderating nonsubscribers and new subscribers, but just till they ask a question related to pine. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:33:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA06040 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:33:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA08909; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:33:44 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA06877; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:30:41 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA34392 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:28:11 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA08420 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:28:08 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA23504 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 23:27:12 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 23:27:12 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Research In-Reply-To: <980111203541_2017101650@mrin39.mx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: DRudi9140@aol.com >Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:35:43 -0500 (EST) >Help!! How do you get to the great places on the net through pine???? We can help. Please post your credit card number, and we'll send you somewhere. But first, we'll just need to check it out to see if it'll meet your needs. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:41:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA06119 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:41:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA09025; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:41:43 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA04994; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:39:33 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA44264 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:37:40 -0800 Received: from mole (mole.slip.net [207.171.193.16]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id VAA22467 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:37:40 -0800 Received: from slip-3.slip.net [207.171.193.17] (batchman) by mole with smtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 0xrcZ3-0000qe-00; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:37:33 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:37:34 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shoeless in San Jose To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Research In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Adam H. Kerman" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: batchman@slip-3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > >From: DRudi9140@aol.com > >Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:35:43 -0500 (EST) > > >Help!! How do you get to the great places on the net through pine???? > > We can help. Please post your credit card number, and we'll send you > somewhere. But first, we'll just need to check it out to see if it'll > meet your needs. Good one...let me know a day in advance so I can get packed! ;) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:27:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA06502 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:27:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA18985; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:27:20 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA09409; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:25:09 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA40140 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:23:18 -0800 Received: from schilling.ucdavis.edu (root@schilling.ucdavis.edu [128.120.8.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA17834 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:23:18 -0800 Received: from catbert.ucdavis.edu (root@catbert.ucdavis.edu [128.120.8.190]) by schilling.ucdavis.edu (8.8.8/UCD3.11.23) with ESMTP id WAA25160 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:23:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by catbert.ucdavis.edu (8.8.7/UCD3.11.23) with SMTP id WAA01301 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:23:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:22:32 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: Shafinah Rosauro Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shafinah Rosauro To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: how do you convert pine addressess to eudora? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: ez072620@catbert.ucdavis.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear all, I was wondering how I can convert my pine addies to eudora format, as I am cancelling this shell account on the 14th. I saw the message from Svein skjaeveland (Convert Pine Addressbook to Eudora Nicknames (addresses) 1/17/96) but his site at http://www.interguru.com/pineudo.html seems to be down. If any of you could help me out with this asap, it would be much appreciated. Thank you! Shafinah Rosauro please mail to: shafinah@sprynet.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:40:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA06614 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:40:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA09795; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:40:06 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA09706; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:37:34 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA48834 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:35:38 -0800 Received: from schilling.ucdavis.edu (root@schilling.ucdavis.edu [128.120.8.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA18468 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:35:35 -0800 Received: from catbert.ucdavis.edu (catbert.ucdavis.edu [128.120.8.190]) by schilling.ucdavis.edu (8.8.8/UCD3.11.23) with ESMTP id WAA27483 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:35:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by catbert.ucdavis.edu (8.8.7/UCD3.11.23) with SMTP id WAA02824 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:34:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:34:09 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shafinah Rosauro To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: correction on how do you convert pine addressess to eudora? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: ez072620@catbert.ucdavis.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear all: well I found the site; ".../pineeudo.html" was misspelled in mr. skjaeveland's message. If you have a easier way to convert addresses, please tell me!!! hehe thanks again Shafinah@sprynet.com --------------------------addendum to:--------------------------------- Dear all, I was wondering how I can convert my pine addies to eudora format, as I am cancelling this shell account on the 14th. I saw the message from Svein skjaeveland (Convert Pine Addressbook to Eudora Nicknames (addresses) 1/17/96) but his site at http://www.interguru.com/pineudo.html seems to be down. If any of you could help me out with this asap, it would be much appreciated. Thank you! Shafinah Rosauro please mail to: shafinah@sprynet.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:51:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA06695 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:51:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA09918; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:51:46 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA10260; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:49:14 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA29738 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:46:40 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA28284 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:46:37 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA21450; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:45:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:43:58 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: News! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Iztok Polanic X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN simply don't use newsfetch. pine can grab news on its own. use the D key to "delete" things you read that you don't want to read again (it marks it as read, and does not delete it from the server. it could be clearer about that for newbies, but :) ) just keep it set up as it is, just don't use newsfetch simple as that :) Vinnie On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Iztok Polanic wrote: > Hello !!! > > If I do that then i can't post new to usenet!!! What about that :] > > Bye. > > On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Colin J. Raven wrote: > > > Go to the main menu screen of Pine, select "S" (setup) "C" (Configure) and > > tab down to "nntp server" > > It should be set to which will cause Pine to ignore the > > existence of a news server. > > BTW, before doing that, you might also check out Pine's newsgroup feature > > set. It's nicely integrated with the mail client, and is usually a fast > > and easy newsreader to use. That however, is just IMHO (In My Humble > > Opinion) others may have religous fervor concerning the newsreader you > > should use. At the end of the day, it's what suits *you* best that decides > > the issue. You can't beat the simplicity of Pine's newsreader though. > > Good Luck! > > -Colin > > > > > I use newsfetch to access my news. It works perfectly with Pine. But when > > > i want to replay to some news, then pine tries to lookup all news on > > > server. Can be this somehow dissabled and be still able sending news??? > > > > > > > > xxxxxx ////// > xx xx ( o o ) > xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ > xxxx | From: Iztok Polanic | > xx xx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | > xx xx | WWW: http://www2.arnes.si/~ssdipola | > xx xx \-----------------------------------------/ > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:54:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA06717 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:54:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA19314; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:53:57 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA08044; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:51:57 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA40132 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:47:29 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA28325 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:47:28 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA21741; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:48:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:46:30 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Research In-Reply-To: <980111203541_2017101650@mrin39.mx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: DRudi9140@aol.com X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN you don't. use lynx newbies! :) On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 DRudi9140@aol.com wrote: > Help!! How do you get to the great places on the net through pine???? > rudi@nevada.edu > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 05:04:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA11634 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 05:04:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA23851; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 05:04:49 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA16302; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 04:58:59 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA10462 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 04:56:28 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA03781 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 04:56:28 -0800 Received: from mozcom.com (mozcom.com [202.47.132.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA23737 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 04:56:24 -0800 Received: from localhost (fscbrd@localhost) by mozcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA17825 for <"pine-info@cac.washington.edu"@mozcom.com>; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:56:22 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:56:22 +0800 (HKT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Brother Rafe S Donato FSC To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: unclear message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "pine-info@cac.washington.edu"@mozcom.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I keep getting message that my file is full. I am sure it is not and just to make sure, I deleted a lot of message in my IN box. BROTHER RAFE S DONATO, FSC "fscbrd@lasalipa@edu.ph" to seek peace persistenly and courageously" DE LA SALLE LIPA BATANGAS PHILIPPINES PHONE: 63)43)756-3118(office hours); 63)43)756-1849 Connecting all departments; FAX: (63 43)756-3117;Cellular 0917-5040-531 http://www.lasalipa.edu.ph From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 05:34:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA11849 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 05:34:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA24189; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 05:34:34 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA19683; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 05:29:55 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA49294 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 05:27:41 -0800 Received: from green.indy.net (green.indy.net [199.3.65.18]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA31187 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 05:27:40 -0800 Received: from indy4.indy.net (root@indy4.indy.net [199.3.65.4]) by green.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29639; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 08:28:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (pfarabee@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by indy4.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA02324; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 08:28:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 08:28:02 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Noone Special To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Research In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Drachen X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: pfarabee@indy4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN It has been my experience that only newbies tend to use the word "newbies" alot :P~ Pat On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Drachen wrote: > > you don't. use lynx > newbies! :) > On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 DRudi9140@aol.com wrote: > > > Help!! How do you get to the great places on the net through pine???? > > rudi@nevada.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 06:45:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA12317 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 06:45:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA15642; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 06:44:59 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA21460; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 06:39:18 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA30248 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 06:36:20 -0800 Received: from mail.wittenberg.edu (mail.Wittenberg.EDU [136.227.1.15]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA28576 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 06:36:18 -0800 Received: from reci52a (Reci52a.Wittenberg.EDU [136.227.128.6]) by mail.wittenberg.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA13633 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:36:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <34BA2A8D.38D81D12@wittenberg.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:37:01 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Gene Harvey To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Rerouting Incoming mail to other folders MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello: I have an alias e-mail address and would like to automate the moving of incoming e-mail to that alias from the INBOX directly and into a folder with that alias name. Has anyone done something like this? How? Thanks Gene Harvey gharvey@wittenberg.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 06:54:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA12440 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 06:54:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA15787; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 06:54:12 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA19757; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 06:48:25 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA25680 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 06:45:46 -0800 Received: from turing.mathworks.com (turing.mathworks.com [144.212.100.12]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA01924 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 06:45:45 -0800 Received: from gamara.mathworks.com (gamara [144.212.12.22]) by turing.mathworks.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16466; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:45:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (cby@localhost) by gamara.mathworks.com (8.7.1/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA07618; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:45:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:45:43 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Caroline Brossi Yates To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: what In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Brudenell X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: gamara.mathworks.com: cby owned process doing -bs X-Sender: cby@gamara X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Mike Brudenell wrote: > The idea was, I think, that comp.mail.pine would be more > newbie-question-ish whilst pine-info focussed more on discussing ways of > improving and devloping Pine. If you want to remove newbie questions from this list, try removing the suggestion on the Pine Web page that people should email their questions to this list. Or at least state your above description on the Pine web page. my ta'pence... -Caroline From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 06:58:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA12494 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 06:58:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA25284; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 06:58:15 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA19981; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 06:53:49 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA43082 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 06:51:44 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA06743 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 06:51:42 -0800 Received: from studserv.uni-leipzig.de (studserv.uni-leipzig.de [139.18.1.15]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA25190 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 06:51:39 -0800 Received: from localhost (soz89abk@localhost) by studserv.uni-leipzig.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA36508 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:51:27 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:51:27 +0100 (MEZ) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: soz89abk@studserv.uni-leipzig.de To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Bugs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Since I began using pine I have had a number of problems which I was unable to overcome eventhough I did read your mannual.I have a text in wordperfect 5.1 format more than 700,000 million byte.Question 1)how can I send this text using pine; 2)if this is not possible into what form of data should I convert to send it per pine.I shall be very much glad if you were to promptly respond to my queries. Yours Sinceryl Professor Dr.samuel Tadesse From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:49:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA13004 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:49:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA16623; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:49:09 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA24354; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:41:43 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA26688 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:39:25 -0800 Received: from isc.lf.net (isc.LF.net [194.64.4.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA05111 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:39:22 -0800 Received: by isc.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.95/isc.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remotehost sparclx with uucp for mxu1.u.washington.edu id m0xrlxI-000qpqC; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 16:39:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de(really [192.9.200.142]) by mail.delta-ii.de via sendmail with smtp id for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 16:39:04 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jul-11) Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA06901; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 16:39:03 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 12 Jan 1998 16:39:03 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Bugs In-Reply-To: soz89abk@studserv.uni-leipzig.de's message of "Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:51:27 +0100 (MEZ)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: soz89abk@studserv.uni-leipzig.de X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >>>On Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:51:27 +0100 (MEZ), soz89abk@studserv.uni-leipzig.de said: Hi, s> Since I began using pine I have had a number of problems which I s> was unable to overcome eventhough I did read your mannual.I have a s> text in wordperfect 5.1 format more than 700,000 million s> byte.Question 1)how can I send this text using pine; 2)if this is s> not possible into what form of data should I convert to send it s> per pine.I shall be very much glad if you were to promptly respond s> to my queries. (1) is it possible that you mixed up some numbers? You are talking about sending a file of 700 GB ... quite a story. (2) if you've tried send a mail with your document inserted into it, the sendmail agent fails (I hope, I haven't mixed up things here). So, here we go ... provided, the file is less than, let's say, 2 MB which I regard of as a reasonable size to send via email (use ftp in other cases or split the file), try to attach the file, that is Ctrl-J while you are in the header region. This converts the binary data into ASCII and sendmail (or whatever) won't complain about it. hth, norbert. -- Norbert Koch a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:49:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA13020 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:49:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA26153; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:49:20 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA24520; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:43:55 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA26834 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:40:57 -0800 Received: from turing.mathworks.com (turing.mathworks.com [144.212.100.12]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA19113 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:40:54 -0800 Received: from gamara.mathworks.com (gamara [144.212.12.22]) by turing.mathworks.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27932 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:40:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (cby@localhost) by gamara.mathworks.com (8.7.1/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA07645 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:40:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:40:49 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: Caroline Brossi Yates Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Caroline Brossi Yates To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: weirdness MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: gamara.mathworks.com: cby owned process doing -bs X-Sender: cby@gamara X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is a followup to a pine weirdness I experienced recently in case anyone else runs into something similar. Pine was behaving truly sluggish at times when the user tried to save a file (it took about 30 seconds and there was no network/nfs server/imap server bogging), and I believe it was due to a large time skew between the imap server and the nfs server. (The nfs server being a Netapp Toaster whose clock battery is evidently suffering). I'm always amazed how simple some solutions turn out to be. Perhaps there is a correlation between effort and simplicity... Cheers, -Caroline unix weeny From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:57:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA13117 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:57:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA26255; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:57:15 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA25049; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:51:34 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA41970 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:48:52 -0800 Received: from mail.arch.wsu.edu (mail.arch.wsu.edu [134.121.78.80]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA03344 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:48:51 -0800 Received: from m518 (carp078026.arch.wsu.edu) by mail.arch.wsu.edu with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA021690337; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:52:17 -0800 Message-Id: <34BA3B02.2E6F@arch.wsu.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 07:47:14 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Mahaffy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: irrelevant posts & consider this... References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello all, Here's a thought. How about just sending a message that reflects the following sentiment. "Wrong type of question for this forum." When the individual gets so 'MANY' responses back from the entire (lots anyway) pine group they will have figured out that 'hey, maybe this is the wrong group to ask'. This might be preferred instead of other options (no names) that have been used in the past to try to turn people away. All that does is - well - nothing. OK it might be frustrating at first but you are reading your mail anyway, aren't you??? Like this one for example... ...and as mentioned before, who has the time or really wants to moderate a list for a large group like this? Mike........... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 08:19:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA13379 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 08:19:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA26694; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 08:19:21 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA26523; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 08:11:12 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA44998 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 08:08:40 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA07048 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 08:08:39 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA25674; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 08:09:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 08:07:33 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Research In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Noone Special X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Or people who worked ISP tech support wa-a-a-a-a-a-ay too long :P On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Noone Special wrote: > It has been my experience that only newbies tend to use the word "newbies" > alot :P~ > > Pat > > On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Drachen wrote: > > > > you don't. use lynx > > newbies! :) > > > On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 DRudi9140@aol.com wrote: > > > > > Help!! How do you get to the great places on the net through pine???? > > > rudi@nevada.edu > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:39:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA15174 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:39:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA19190; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:39:05 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA48672; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:32:44 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA30274 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:29:42 -0800 Received: from studserv.uni-leipzig.de (studserv.uni-leipzig.de [139.18.1.15]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA19013 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:29:40 -0800 Received: from localhost (soz89abk@localhost) by studserv.uni-leipzig.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA100952 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:29:38 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:29:38 +0100 (MEZ) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: soz89abk@studserv.uni-leipzig.de To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Further Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Suppose the datas are in the directory path user\diss and I had liked to upload the datas so that it can be e-mailed using the pine command,what are the instructions that I should follow? Yours Sincerly Professor Dr.Samuel Tadesse From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:41:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA16809 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:41:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA21087; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:41:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA04160; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:36:52 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA51010 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:34:47 -0800 Received: from sakaki.communique.net (sakaki.communique.net [204.27.65.7]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA25636 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:34:36 -0800 Received: from nodon.communique.net (ppp-204-27-123-208.co.communique.net [204.27.123.208]) by sakaki.communique.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA03663 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:34:13 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <002201bd1f88$50d6a720$c8a3070a@nodon.communique.net> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:31:35 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Don Allaire" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Hiding Main Menu Options from Pine users... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello: I admin a site which runs version 3.96. Is there a command line option or compile time option that would allow me to hide some of the main menu options, such as Setup and folder index? I have checked through the man pages, and checked through the configuration files without success. Thanks in advance. don. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:12:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA17722 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:12:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA01558; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:12:21 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA06717; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:07:54 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA18960 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:06:45 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA23950 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:06:44 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA26736; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:07:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:05:41 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Rerouting Incoming mail to other folders In-Reply-To: <34BA2A8D.38D81D12@wittenberg.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Gene Harvey X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN sounds like a job for procmail :) try http://www.ii.com/internet/faqs/launchers/mail/filtering-faq/ On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Gene Harvey wrote: > Hello: > > I have an alias e-mail address and would like to automate the moving of > incoming e-mail to that alias from the INBOX directly and into a folder > with that alias name. Has anyone done something like this? How? > > Thanks > Gene Harvey > gharvey@wittenberg.edu > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:22:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA17943 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:22:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA01801; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:22:14 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA09866; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:18:14 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA34536 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:16:18 -0800 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA22519 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:16:14 -0800 Received: from alpha.computers.org (ssdipola@slip139-92-33-125.lju.si.ibm.net [139.92.33.125]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA73202 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:16:10 GMT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:18:27 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Problem! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@alpha.computers.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello !!! I recenty got this in my PINE window! init: could not get current directory: getwd: cannot access parent directories What's wrong? Bye. xxxxxx ////// xx xx ( o o ) xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ xxxx | From: Iztok Polanic | xx xx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | xx xx | WWW: http://www2.arnes.si/~ssdipola | xx xx \-----------------------------------------/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:52:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA18924 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:52:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA23142; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:52:25 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA12478; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:47:48 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA49346 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:46:24 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA03008 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:46:20 -0800 Received: from dns.oklahoma.net (dns.oklahoma.net [208.2.112.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA22953 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:46:16 -0800 Received: from 208.2.116.173 (r116-173.okc.oklahoma.net [208.2.116.173]) by dns.oklahoma.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA22663 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:44:49 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <34BA73BD.163FC57C@oklahoma.net> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:49:20 -0600 Reply-To: buttons@oklahoma.net Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jim Cooprider To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: x-uuencode help! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I recieved e-mail with attachment and needs to be decoded by x-uuencode. I have a macintosh and am on netscape 4.0 . Can you help me out. Jim Cooprider - Oklahoma City e-mail: buttons@oklahoma.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:15:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA19483 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:15:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA03294; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:15:04 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA12118; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:08:31 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA31082 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:06:38 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA14271 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:06:32 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA32680 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:05:34 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:05:34 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Hiding Main Menu Options from Pine users... In-Reply-To: <002201bd1f88$50d6a720$c8a3070a@nodon.communique.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Don Allaire >Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:31:35 -0600 >I admin a site which runs version 3.96. Is there a command line option or >compile time option that would allow me to hide some of the main menu >options, such as Setup and folder index? I have checked through the man >pages, and checked through the configuration files without success. Check through the file called tech-notes.txt. You can fix configuration options that users cannot override. There's no need to hide Setup from users; numerous user-configurable options have no security implications. Why prevent users from changing those? What possible reason could you have for hiding the message index? How do you expect users to get conveniently from one to the next? You had better explain in greater detail about what you want to do. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:50:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA20148 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:50:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA24553; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:50:30 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA16913; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:46:16 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA45712 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:41:41 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA00930 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:41:39 -0800 Received: from onyx.southwind.net (vlu@onyx.southwind.net [206.53.103.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA04017 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:41:36 -0800 Received: from localhost (vlu@localhost) by onyx.southwind.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id OAA11188 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:41:35 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:41:35 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Verney Unruh To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: printer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have been using Pine 3.95 for sometime but have never been able to get it to print for me from the Y command. I have an Epson LQ 850 printer and am able to print from the "print scrn" key. I have read and re-read your "help" message and have tried different settings but to no avail. What suggestions to do you have? Verney Unruh From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:52:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA20191 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:52:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA24599; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:52:31 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA14922; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:48:41 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA43252 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:41:51 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA00945 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:41:49 -0800 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.177]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA24356 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:41:44 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:36:46 EST Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: UGPUG1 To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: require more info Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: sforker@u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have and e-mail account through pine, but I would like to access campus info at home, but I don't know how From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:46:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA21581 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:46:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA05645; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:46:38 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA20711; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:42:03 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA31170 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:39:01 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA06480 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:39:00 -0800 Received: from tesla.esimez.ipn.mx (tesla.esimez.ipn.mx [148.204.219.60]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id NAA05488 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:38:54 -0800 Received: (from lsalinas@localhost) by tesla.esimez.ipn.mx (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA02946 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:51:03 -0800 Message-Id: <9801121551.ZM2944@tesla.esimez.ipn.mx> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:51:03 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Luis Miguel Salinas" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine for SGI 6.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN PLEASE I WANT TO BUILD THE LASTEST RELEASE OF PINE FOR AN SGI, RUNNING IRIX 6.2. PLEASE. Advice & suggestions appreciated AND THE OPTIONS IN THE BUILD SCRIPT. THANK YOU LUIS MIGUEL. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:42:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA22974 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:42:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA27650; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:42:41 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA24320; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:37:20 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA34578 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:35:30 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA19695 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:35:22 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA05980; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:36:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:34:20 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: require more info In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: UGPUG1 X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN most likely you would want to find out the name of your campus mail server and set up pine on your home PC with the proper information. On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, UGPUG1 wrote: > I have and e-mail account through pine, but I would like to access campus info > at home, but I don't know how > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:50:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA23134 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:50:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA07285; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:50:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA24889; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:47:02 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA46112 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:44:45 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id OAA20656 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:44:42 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 12 Jan 98 23:44:18 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA00848; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:27:55 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 12 Jan 1998 18:27:46 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Research In-Reply-To: Drachen's message of "Mon, 12 Jan 1998 08:07:33 -0800 (PST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Drachen X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >>>> On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 DRudi9140@aol.com wrote: >>> Drachen writes: >> On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Drachen wrote: > On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Noone Special wrote: >>>> Help!! How do you get to the great places on the net through >>>> pine???? >>> you don't. use lynx newbies! :) >> It has been my experience that only newbies tend to use the word >> "newbies" alot :P~ > Or people who worked ISP tech support wa-a-a-a-a-a-ay too long :P Sure, but those know how to quote properly. LaMEr ]:-> Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept., Bonn University main(){printf(&unix["\021%six\012\0"],(unix)["have"]+"fun"-0x60);} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:55:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA23214 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:55:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA07418; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:55:20 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA14064; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:50:37 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA26196 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:44:52 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id OAA13000 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:44:48 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 12 Jan 98 23:44:19 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA00849; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:31:06 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 12 Jan 1998 18:31:05 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: unclear message In-Reply-To: Brother Rafe S Donato FSC's message of "Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:56:22 +0800 (HKT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Brother Rafe S Donato FSC X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Brother Rafe S Donato FSC writes: > I keep getting message that my file is full. I am sure it is not > and just to make sure, I deleted a lot of message in my IN box. Yo, brother, chant a couple of "man quota"s - that'll help. What's happening is that that you local system administrator has assigned you a limited amount of diskspace which you've exceeded. That need not necessarily be mail, it can be all sorts of files. Do the following: du ~/ | sort -n | less and see where the big files are. You quit less by saying "q". Delete those files at random. Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept., Bonn University Vidi, vici, veni From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:58:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA23262 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:58:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA07499; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:58:02 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA23625; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:54:02 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA29020 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:48:13 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA21004 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:48:11 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA09628; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:48:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:47:01 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Research In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 12 Jan 1998, Robin S. Socha wrote: > Sure, but those know how to quote properly. LaMEr ]:-> or are simply too lazy too unless goaded into it :) it's been one of those where are the netscape /facks/ (no they don't mean faqs) days :) Vinnie From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:12:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA23647 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:12:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA07849; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:12:20 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA24908; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:09:37 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA41832 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:06:03 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id PAA18451 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:06:02 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 13 Jan 98 00:05:39 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA00518; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:50:26 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:50:24 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Problem! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Iztok Polanic X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Iztok Polanic wrote: > Hello !!! > I recenty got this in my PINE window! > init: could not get current directory: getwd: cannot access > parent directories > What's wrong? You deleted the dir you were in. Your signature is too long. Robin BTW, you know that you're fscked when you get this: tail: /var/log/messages: I/O error Guys, I think you won't be seeing me for a couple of days... F***! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:17:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA23747 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:17:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA08006; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:17:28 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA27312; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:12:40 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA45660 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:06:02 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id PAA22807 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:05:58 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 13 Jan 98 00:05:33 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA00525; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:52:42 +0100 Message-Id: <19980113005242.64261@sushi.uni-bonn.de> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:52:42 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: require more info In-Reply-To: ; from UGPUG1 on Mon, Jan 12, 1998 at 03:36:46PM -0400 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, Jan 12, 1998 at 03:36:46PM -0400, UGPUG1 wrote: > I have and e-mail account through pine, but I would like to access campus info > at home, but I don't know how Talk to your local help desk. You need a connection. *They* have the necessary hard- and software. Robin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:18:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA23752 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:18:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA08012; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:17:58 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA25404; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:14:37 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA13684 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:06:04 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id PAA02906 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:06:01 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 13 Jan 98 00:05:36 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA00530; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:53:51 +0100 Message-Id: <19980113005351.54319@sushi.uni-bonn.de> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:53:51 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: x-uuencode help! In-Reply-To: <34BA73BD.163FC57C@oklahoma.net>; from Jim Cooprider on Mon, Jan 12, 1998 at 01:49:20PM -0600 References: <34BA73BD.163FC57C@oklahoma.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, Jan 12, 1998 at 01:49:20PM -0600, Jim Cooprider wrote: > I recieved e-mail with attachment and needs to be decoded by x-uuencode. I > have a macintosh and am on netscape 4.0 . Can you help me out. No. This is a list for the discussion of problems related to the pine MUA. Go to and pick up the necessary software there. Robin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:34:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA28121 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:34:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA13011; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:34:07 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA12420; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:29:28 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA27422 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:27:35 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA04074 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:27:34 -0800 Received: from ops_svr (ip25.irvine.quik.com [207.38.102.25]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA12370; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 03:26:21 GMT Message-Id: <006301bd1f8f$9b6e3f80$196626cf@ops_svr> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:23:30 -0000 Reply-To: "Colin J. Raven" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: irrelevant posts & consider this... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Mike Mahaffy" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN OK that solves one matter alone Mike....it deluges *that* individual with mail which says that they've posted to the wrong list. Agreed without reservation. Yessir...that tells 'em...noooooo question about it! However, the larger issue is not what you do to Joe Schmo, the one poor schlemiel who gets 99,000 emails (98,999 of 'em from Robin!) telling him he's in the wrong place, but what you do to *avoid* getting irrelevent posts to begin with. IMHO *that* is the issue, and where we're heading by trying to figure out if there should be two lists, one for newcomers (er inexperienced NEWcomers) and one for the folks who realize fully what the heck the list is for, and who post on (or close to) topic. A Regarding moderating the list...well for starters, a few boilerplate email text files would certainly reduce the workload considerably. Time to accomplish this? I dunno...anyone have any estimates on this?? Oh well...back to the iron foundry -Colin >Hello all, > >Here's a thought. How about just sending a message that reflects the >following sentiment. > >"Wrong type of question for this forum." > >When the individual gets so 'MANY' responses back from the entire (lots >anyway) pine group they will have figured out that 'hey, maybe this is >the wrong group to ask'. This might be preferred instead of other >options (no names) that have been used in the past to try to turn people >away. All that does is - well - nothing. > >OK it might be frustrating at first but you are reading your mail >anyway, aren't you??? Like this one for example... > >...and as mentioned before, who has the time or really wants to moderate >a list for a large group like this? > >Mike........... > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:43:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA28191 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:43:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA13124; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:42:59 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA12943; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:39:20 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA23370 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:37:31 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA03087 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:37:31 -0800 Received: from ops_svr (ip25.irvine.quik.com [207.38.102.25]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA10942; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 03:30:36 GMT Message-Id: <008801bd1f90$32ee4670$196626cf@ops_svr> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:27:56 -0000 Reply-To: "Colin J. Raven" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Moderating Newbie List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Adam H. Kerman" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Yup...'xactly, that's what I had in mind...just that. > >I'm still in favor of moderating nonsubscribers and new subscribers, but just >till they ask a question related to pine. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:31:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA29747 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:31:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA05991; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:31:46 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA22697; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:28:28 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA21250 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:25:40 -0800 Received: from isc.lf.net (isc.LF.net [194.64.4.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA12903 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:25:38 -0800 Received: by isc.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.95/isc.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remotehost sparclx with uucp for mxu1.u.washington.edu id m0xrzn5-000qp7C; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:25:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de(really [192.9.200.142]) by mail.delta-ii.de via sendmail with smtp id for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:25:29 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jul-11) Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA19552; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:25:25 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 13 Jan 1998 07:25:25 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Further Question In-Reply-To: soz89abk@studserv.uni-leipzig.de's message of "Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:29:38 +0100 (MEZ)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: soz89abk@studserv.uni-Leipzig.de X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >>>On Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:29:38 +0100 (MEZ), soz89abk@studserv.uni-Leipzig.de said: Good Morning Leipzig ... s> Suppose the datas are in the directory path user\diss and I had s> liked to upload the datas so that it can be e-mailed using the s> pine command,what are the instructions that I should follow? well maybe I'm dumb and I don't really get what you are heading for, but as I can see the famous combination of keystrokes should be c -> compose message Then, while in the header region ctrl-j -> attach file(s) ctrl-t -> to files This last command opens a file selector. Since I suppose you are on a Windows Machine (who else would use a backslash to separate directories?) you'll see one of the famous explorer pop-ups which you can use to move around (maybe to user/diss) and get the file you intend to attach. You might even be lucky that you'll (a) get those keystrokes above via mouse (don't know, don't care) (b) get the desired result (c) not get shot for disregarding pine's online help ... l8er, norbert. -- Norbert Koch a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:03:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA05233 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:03:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA14511; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:03:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA12853; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 08:59:21 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA29178 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 08:57:24 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA08400 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 08:57:23 -0800 Received: from fes3.cs.tol.it (mail.tin.it [194.243.154.39]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA14304 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 08:57:20 -0800 Received: from ademio.tin.it (Milano33-241.tin.it [195.31.189.240]) by fes3.cs.tol.it (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA02349 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:57:13 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199801131657.RAA02349@fes3.cs.tol.it> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:56:39 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Plastic Division Graf3 srl" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Looking for BINHEX CONVERTER 4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BD204C.98F2E360" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Messaggio a più sezioni in formato MIME. ------=_NextPart_000_01BD204C.98F2E360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello we've read your message and it seems that we have the same problem of yours! If you have already any solution / or if you have found out where to get the "binhex converter 4.0" we would appreciate that you send it to us, or just give us the address where to find it ! Thank you Please reply to e-mail: pdgraf@tin.it ------=_NextPart_000_01BD204C.98F2E360 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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we've read your message and it = seems that we have the same problem of yours!
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------=_NextPart_000_01BD204C.98F2E360-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:06:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA09392 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:06:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA28613; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:06:09 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA28734; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:59:43 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA12422 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:59:13 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA03046 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:59:12 -0800 Received: from mail1.wa.gov (mail1.wa.gov [147.55.96.33]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA28391 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:59:09 -0800 Received: from [209.74.223.3] (cdhd.health-chelan-douglas.wa.gov) by mail1.wa.gov (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA174 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:56:01 -0800 Received: from CDHD_1/SpoolDir by 209.74.223.3 (DaVinci Version: 4.10); 13 Jan 98 11:56:13 -0800 Received: from SpoolDir by CDHD_1 (DaVinci Version: 4.10); 13 Jan 98 11:55:52 -0800 Received: from by 209.74.223.3 (DaVinci Version: 4.10); 13 Jan 98 11:55:47 -0800 Message-Id: <34BBC6C1.2E7F@health-chelan-douglas.wa.gov> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:55:45 -0800 Reply-To: STORY@health-chelan-douglas.wa.gov Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Greg Story To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: ms-tnef MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there a plug-in or helper application for NETSCAPE that will translate ms-tnef attachments? If so, please email to STORY@health-chelan-douglas.wa.gov Thanks. Greg Story Chelan-Douglas Health District Wenatchee, Washington From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:04:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA11170 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:04:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA20813; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:04:11 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA03031; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:59:27 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA23816 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:57:14 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id MAA16086 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:57:10 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 13 Jan 98 21:56:47 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA19419; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:33:24 +0100 Message-Id: <19980113223324.44902@sushi.uni-bonn.de> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:33:24 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: ms-tnef In-Reply-To: <34BBC6C1.2E7F@health-chelan-douglas.wa.gov>; from Greg Story on Tue, Jan 13, 1998 at 11:55:45AM -0800 References: <34BBC6C1.2E7F@health-chelan-douglas.wa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-To: STORY@health-chelan-douglas.wa.gov X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, Jan 13, 1998 at 11:55:45AM -0800, Greg Story wrote: > Is there a plug-in or helper application for NETSCAPE that will > translate ms-tnef attachments? Did you write a mail to isuck@netscape.com? If so, it went astray and made its way to the pine discussion forum. We don't use Netscape and we *don't* use ms-tnef. > If so, please email to STORY@health-chelan-douglas.wa.gov Yeah, sure... [x] get a clue Robin -- /home/robin/.signature: I/O error *argl* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:05:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA11218 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:05:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA20874; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:04:52 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA03831; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:58:01 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA23550 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:57:13 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id MAA00373 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:57:12 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 13 Jan 98 21:56:46 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA19437 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:38:12 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:38:12 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Looking for BINHEX CONVERTER 4.0 In-Reply-To: <199801131657.RAA02349@fes3.cs.tol.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Plastic Division Graf3 srl wrote: > we've read your message and it seems that we have the same problem of > yours! Congratulations. > If you have already any solution / or if you have found out where to get > the "binhex converter 4.0" we would appreciate that you send it to us, > or just give us the address where to find it ! > Please reply to e-mail: pdgraf@tin.it You've *got* to be joking... Robin -- /home/robin/.signature: I/O error *argl* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:11:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA11323 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:11:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA00525; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:10:57 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA04228; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:05:45 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA50344 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:04:41 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA00634 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:04:39 -0800 Received: from darwin.helios.nd.edu (darwin.helios.nd.edu [129.74.250.114]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA20854 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:04:29 -0800 Received: from dante.helios.nd.edu (mmendlik@dante.helios.nd.edu [129.74.221.8]) by darwin.helios.nd.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26391 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:04:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (mmendlik@localhost) by dante.helios.nd.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA10146 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:04:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:04:14 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Matt Mendlik To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: hello. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Authentication-Warning: dante.helios.nd.edu: mmendlik owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Sir or Madam, At the following web address, http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/96.05/msg00536.html is a message from me with my address and full name printed. Could you tell me why it is there, and could you please remove it? Thank you. Matt Mendlik From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 14:53:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA13471 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 14:53:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA23628; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 14:53:05 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA12610; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 14:47:46 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA18738 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 14:46:25 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA11317 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 14:46:23 -0800 Received: from pill.Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU (call@pill.Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU [128.196.140.107]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA23401 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 14:46:16 -0800 Received: from localhost (call@localhost) by pill.Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA03004 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:46:11 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:46:10 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jennifer Call To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN some of my friends send me pictures or some text to my mailbox. When i try to viwe it, it tells me to to hit v then s. Well i can't find it and i don't know how to retreave it!!! When i type DIR when i log in, there it is...i can't get to it, is there any way to put it on a disk and open it later??/what can i DO???? Any help would be appreciated!!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:16:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA14067 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:16:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA03785; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:16:02 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA44618; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:12:15 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA26176 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:10:55 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA29460 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:10:53 -0800 Received: from smtp1.fas.harvard.edu (root@smtp1.fas.harvard.edu [140.247.30.81]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA24076 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:10:47 -0800 Received: from login6.fas.harvard.edu (ikpe@login6.fas.harvard.edu [140.247.30.76]) by smtp1.fas.harvard.edu with ESMTP id SAA11824; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 18:10:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by login6.fas.harvard.edu with SMTP id SAA32593; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 18:10:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 18:10:45 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "*Edidiong N. Ikpe*" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: "Disc Quota Exceeded?" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN WHat does it mean when the computer says "disc quota exceeded" and refuses to let you forward messages or save messages in any of your folders? How do you fix this problem? As I am typing this letter, the message : NO room for file, disc quota exceeded just appeared at the bottom of my screen! Edidiong Ikpe Harvard University * When you educate a WOMAN...You educate a NATION * * * * * Blessing in DeeSkies* * * * * * Edidiong N. Ikpe * * (617) 493-6275 * * 309 Pforzheimer House Mail Center* * Cambridge, MA * * 02138 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:54:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA14833 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:54:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA25376; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:54:02 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA16358; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:50:04 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA05584 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:49:45 -0800 Received: from results.resultsp.com.mx (rodolfo@[140.148.120.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id PAA03443 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:49:42 -0800 Received: from localhost (rodolfo@localhost) by results.resultsp.com.mx (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA13991; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:50:37 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:50:36 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: Rodolfo Gonzalez Gonzalez Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rodolfo Gonzalez Gonzalez To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jennifer Call X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Jennifer Call wrote: > some of my friends send me pictures or some text to my mailbox. > When i try to viwe it, it tells me to to hit v then s. Well i can't find > it and i don't know how to retreave it!!! When i type DIR when i log in, > there it is...i can't get to it, is there any way to put it on a disk and > open it later??/what can i DO???? Any help would be appreciated!!! I guess you're under UNIX. If so, when you're reading the message, type v to go to the viewer, then a list of the parts which form the message are displayed, you should then place the hightlight over the part you want to save (in this case, the picture file), and then press s in order to save it to the current direcory... at this step a line asking you to enter the name under which you want to save the file will appear, enter a name, press enter and voila! :) Do you want to get it to your local computer?... well, ftp it from the UNIX server with any ftp client (like CuteFTP in Windows, for example). Saludos. Rodolfo. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:57:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA14905 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:57:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA04726; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:57:08 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA16651; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:54:04 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA47344 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:53:50 -0800 Received: from results.resultsp.com.mx (rodolfo@[140.148.120.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id PAA14230 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:53:47 -0800 Received: from localhost (rodolfo@localhost) by results.resultsp.com.mx (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA14030; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:54:43 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:54:42 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rodolfo Gonzalez Gonzalez To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: "Disc Quota Exceeded?" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "*Edidiong N. Ikpe*" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi there, On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, *Edidiong N. Ikpe* wrote: > WHat does it mean when the computer says "disc quota exceeded" and refuses > to let you forward messages or save messages in any of your folders? You have run out of disk space, I guess... > How do you fix this problem? Delete some files from your directory, or ask your sysadmin to increase your quota os space... use the quota command to learn about how much disk space is available for you... also use the df command to see if there is enough room in the filesystems to send mail (sometimes if some areas get full, then you can't send mail). Use the man command to learn about the quota and df commands: man df & man quota... > As I am typing this letter, the message : NO room for file, disc quota > exceeded just appeared at the bottom of my screen! See comment two... > Edidiong Ikpe > Harvard University Saludos. Rodolfo. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:02:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA15039 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:02:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA04864; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:02:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA17143; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:59:39 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA19450 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:59:16 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA27171 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:59:12 -0800 Received: from abyss.netactive.co.za (root@abyss.infonet.co.za [196.27.15.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA25497 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:59:06 -0800 Received: from zrkciqab (db139.netactive.co.za [196.27.19.139]) by abyss.netactive.co.za (8.8.7/OpenMail) with ESMTP id BAA09868 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 01:58:57 +0200 (SAT) Message-Id: <199801132358.BAA09868@abyss.netactive.co.za> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 01:48:59 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "rodger ebelthite" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Help-.tif file conversion with binhex MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BD208E.94F263C0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BD208E.94F263C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I received an attached file with e-mail from Canada(a photogragh) and it apparently needs to be converted with binhex 4.0. I have an IBM compatible PC with Windows 95, msPicture-it and Easyphoto. None of these will open the file('the files format is invalid or not supported' etc). HOW DO I DO IT? Rodger Ebelthite rodger@netactive.co.za Durban, South Africa ------=_NextPart_000_01BD208E.94F263C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I received an attached file with e-mail = from Canada(a photogragh) and it apparently needs to be converted with = binhex 4.0.

I have an IBM compatible PC with Windows 95, = msPicture-it and Easyphoto. None of these will open the file('the = files format is invalid or not supported' etc).

HOW DO I DO = IT?
Rodger Ebelthite    rodger@netactive.co.za =      Durban, South Africa

------=_NextPart_000_01BD208E.94F263C0-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:16:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA16982 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:16:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA06708; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:16:29 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA16514; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:12:03 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA49308 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:11:35 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA25730 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:11:32 -0800 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.172]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA06576 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:11:28 -0800 Message-Id: <50b4e7e2.34bc1019@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:08:39 EST Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: RyouNneed2 To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: ascii character sets Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I am looking for a chart showing ascii character sets. If you know where on the web I can find one, please e-mail me back. Thanx From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:44:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA17399 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:44:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA27850; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:44:09 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA24875; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:41:07 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA41014 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:39:51 -0800 Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA26846 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:39:49 -0800 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (avardy@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA02506; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:09:45 -0330 (NST) Received: (from avardy@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.8/8.8.3) id WAA16644; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:09:45 -0330 (NST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:09:45 -0330 (NST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Andrew Vardy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jennifer Call X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: avardy@plato.ucs.mun.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Jennifer Call wrote: > some of my friends send me pictures or some text to my mailbox. > When i try to viwe it, it tells me to to hit v then s. Well i can't find > it and i don't know how to retreave it!!! When i type DIR when i log in, > there it is...i can't get to it, is there any way to put it on a disk and > open it later??/what can i DO???? Any help would be appreciated!!! > So you see your file in the directory. OK. Type sz filename Then it will download your file. Then you can view that file later with whatever program you choose. If you wanted it on a disk, I guess you could copy it there after. Windows Explorer could copy the file to your drive A: (supposedly). Somehow. Or make a wish. Let us hope Robin doesn't spam Jennifer. As she needs help. Beware. _ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:27:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA18482 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:27:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA29396; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:27:29 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA01882; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:24:24 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA46910 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:23:41 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA01179 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:23:41 -0800 Received: from mail1.halcyon.com (mail1.halcyon.com [206.63.63.40]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA29345 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:23:38 -0800 Received: from [206.63.32.50] (blv-pm101-ip20.halcyon.com [206.63.32.50]) by mail1.halcyon.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA10188 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:23:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:23:35 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Wallace R. Ackerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: request info RE:Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: wack@mail.halcyon.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Request info re: Pine From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:57:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA18654 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:57:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA29758; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:57:24 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA02995; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:52:29 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA03332 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:52:08 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA30755 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:52:07 -0800 Received: from ops_svr (ip21.irvine.quik.com [207.38.102.21]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA34830; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 03:50:46 GMT Message-Id: <007401bd205c$2f01d050$156626cf@ops_svr> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:48:02 -0000 Reply-To: "Colin J. Raven" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Jennifer Call" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Since Robin is repairing his hard drive, permit me to offer one or two observations on his behalf. 1. Hit "V" to view the message parts 2.Hit "S" to save (for example an image like a .gif) to your local drive 3. FTP the image down to your local machine using WS_FTP or some similar FTP program (freeware) 4. Although admittedly a minor matter, it's a gracious practice to capitalize the first letter of the first word in a sentence, and (usually) the first person is represented with a capital "I" as opposed to "i" 5. Things are never quite as much of a catastrophe as you think when you write an email. Give thought to what you are asking, and whom you are asking. It's unwritten, but recipients tend not to appreciate jumbled syntax and poorly composed email such as you sent below. Colin > some of my friends send me pictures or some text to my mailbox. >When i try to viwe it, it tells me to to hit v then s. Well i can't find >it and i don't know how to retreave it!!! When i type DIR when i log in, >there it is...i can't get to it, is there any way to put it on a disk and >open it later??/what can i DO???? Any help would be appreciated!!! > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:23:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA20679 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:23:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA11275; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:23:31 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA41222; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:20:10 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA17734 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:19:39 -0800 Received: from pill.Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU (call@pill.Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU [128.196.140.107]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA11452 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:19:38 -0800 Received: from localhost (call@localhost) by pill.Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA05275; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:19:32 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:19:31 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jennifer Call To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <007401bd205c$2f01d050$156626cf@ops_svr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Colin J. Raven" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Colin, thank you for your help. it is nice that you take the time to help me out. If i wanted your opinion on my grammer, i will tell it to you. when dealing with people, be polite and try not to be a pompus ass-hole. Did you read THAT clearly. Thankfully yours From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:34:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA21059 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:34:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA02358; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:34:08 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA13456; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:31:35 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA41450 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:30:32 -0800 Received: from pnp03.pnp.co.za (firewall-user@pnp03.pnp.co.za [196.7.191.18]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA01866 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:30:29 -0800 Received: by pnp03.pnp.co.za; id IAA15169; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:30:14 +0200 (SAT) Received: from pnp16.pnp.co.za(150.1.100.24) by pnp03.pnp.co.za via smap (V3.1.1) id xma015160; Wed, 14 Jan 98 08:29:58 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:29:58 +0200 (SAST) Reply-To: Malcolm Florence Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Malcolm Florence To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jennifer Call X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Jennifer Call wrote: > > Colin, thank you for your help. it is nice that you take the time > to help me out. If i wanted your opinion on my grammer, i will tell it to > you. when dealing with people, be polite and try not to be a pompus > ass-hole. Did you read THAT clearly. > > Thankfully yours > Jennifer ... you forgot the "u" in pompoUs. Malcolm (malcolm@pnp.co.za) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:05:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA21939 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:05:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA12150; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:05:50 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA11414; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:52:55 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA13468 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:51:42 -0800 Received: from ftoomsh.progsoc.uts.edu.au (root@ftoomsh.progsoc.uts.edu.au [138.25.6.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA07556 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:51:35 -0800 Received: from ftoomsh.progsoc.uts.edu.au (magicman@ftoomsh.progsoc.uts.edu.au [138.25.6.1]) by ftoomsh.progsoc.uts.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA13627 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:51:25 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:51:23 +1100 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Oleg Kokotovic To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: configuring pico MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN hi everyone! i love using pine and pico as the preferred editor (on a unix platform). however, i do need to set the tab size to 4 (for work purposes). i was just wondering if there was any way to do this, as i cannot find any similar configure commands on pine/pico. any help on this would be greatly appreciated. thank you. ps. i know how to do it in vi, but i hate vi and any clones/associates. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:24:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA22165 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:24:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA03238; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:24:19 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA17856; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:11:48 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA18568 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:10:31 -0800 Received: from isc.lf.net (isc.LF.net [194.64.4.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA03860 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:10:25 -0800 Received: by isc.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.95/isc.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remotehost sparclx with uucp for mx3.u.washington.edu id m0xsMxg-000qgUC; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:10:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de(really [192.9.200.142]) by mail.delta-ii.de via sendmail with smtp id for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:07:25 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jul-11) Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA30402; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:07:21 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 14 Jan 1998 08:07:21 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: configuring pico In-Reply-To: Oleg Kokotovic's message of "Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:51:23 +1100 (EST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Oleg Kokotovic X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >>>On Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:51:23 +1100 (EST), Oleg Kokotovic said: OK> hi everyone! i love using pine and pico as the preferred editor OK> (on a unix platform). however, i do need to set the tab size to OK> 4 (for work purposes). i was just wondering if there was any way OK> to do this, as i cannot find any similar configure commands on OK> pine/pico. any help on this would be greatly appreciated. thank OK> you. ps. i know how to do it in vi, but i hate vi and any OK> clones/associates. Hi, just a guess after a glance ... the only fast solution I've found is a recompile (hmpf) after a change of the following line ... mswin.c:8253:#define TAB_SIZE 8 maybe you could send in a patch making the variable user definable :-) l8er, norbert. -- Norbert Koch a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 00:20:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA22733 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 00:20:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA13125; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 00:20:03 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id AAA13383; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 00:12:26 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA41502 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 00:11:03 -0800 Received: from isc.lf.net (isc.LF.net [194.64.4.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA16235 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 00:11:01 -0800 Received: by isc.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.95/isc.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remotehost sparclx with uucp for mxu1.u.washington.edu id m0xsNud-000qrRC; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:10:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de(really [192.9.200.142]) by mail.delta-ii.de via sendmail with smtp id for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:10:53 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jul-11) Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA31686; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:10:54 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 14 Jan 1998 09:10:54 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: Jennifer Call's message of "Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:19:31 -0700 (MST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >>>On Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:19:31 -0700 (MST), Jennifer Call said: JC> Colin, thank you for your help. it is nice that you take the time JC> to help me out. If i wanted your opinion on my grammer, i will JC> tell it to you. when dealing with people, be polite and try not JC> to be a pompus ass-hole. Did you read THAT clearly. Now listen sweetie ... we're here not at grammar school, sure enough, but you're hell of lucky that you've received an answer at all. You don't know anything about a thing called netiquette, do you - really? Have a look at your f*cking subject ... what do we learn about your problem during the study of it? That either the operator or the keyboard is broken - probably both ... So, just shut up and take the answer as given (in short, get lost). Malcolm ... hmm, imo it's the 'o' that's lacking :-) l8er, norbert. -- Norbert Koch a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 01:37:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA23991 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 01:37:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA14082; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 01:37:30 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA16089; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 01:34:38 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA32782 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 01:33:23 -0800 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA24699 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 01:33:20 -0800 Received: from alpha.computers.org (ssdipola@slip139-92-33-85.lju.si.ibm.net [139.92.33.85]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA19586 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:33:09 GMT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:35:13 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: Iztok Polanic Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: How to check for new mail? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@alpha.computers.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello !!! Look at the subject. I know that you can in setup/config change the amount of time in which will pine check for mail, but is there any keystroke command that i want to checke for mail a little more earlier then pine does??? Bye. xxxxxx ////// xx xx ( o o ) xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ xxxx | From: Iztok Polanic | xx xx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | xx xx | WWW: http://www2.arnes.si/~ssdipola | xx xx \-----------------------------------------/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 02:18:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA24458 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 02:17:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA14584; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 02:17:55 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA16727; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 02:15:23 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA51442 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 02:13:20 -0800 Received: from gamma.dou.dk (gamma.dou.dk [130.225.130.6]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA13951 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 02:13:18 -0800 Received: from localhost (scheffmann@localhost) by gamma.dou.dk (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA18696; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:13:13 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:13:13 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Lars Scheffmann To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How to check for new mail? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Iztok Polanic X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Iztok Polanic wrote: > but is there any keystroke > command that i want to checke for mail a little more earlier then pine > does??? Yes, use ^L (CTRL-L) It is used to re-draw the screen but checks also for new mail. I believe I saw it in "Technical Notes" somewhere. Regards Lars Scheffmann, Network Adm. E-Mail: scheffmann@dou.dk Dept. of Academic Information Systems Phone: +45 6615 8600 ext.2867 DOU, Odense University Direct: +45 6557 2867 Niels Bohrs Alle 11, 5230 Odense M Fax: +45 6612 3366 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 05:37:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA28337 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 05:37:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA17291; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 05:37:08 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA22179; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 05:34:09 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA38172 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 05:32:08 -0800 Received: from green.indy.net (green.indy.net [199.3.65.18]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA25078 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 05:32:07 -0800 Received: from indy4.indy.net (root@indy4.indy.net [199.3.65.4]) by green.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA27524; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:32:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (pfarabee@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by indy4.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA28585; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:32:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:32:30 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: Noone Special Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Noone Special To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Jennifer Call X-Sender: pfarabee@indy4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Jennifer Call wrote: > Colin, thank you for your help. it is nice that you take the time > to help me out. If i wanted your opinion on my grammer, i will tell it to > you. when dealing with people, be polite and try not to be a pompus > ass-hole. Did you read THAT clearly. It's called Nettiquette, hon. One thing to make note of, though.. If after asking for help from technical people (that's us), they actually answer your question, but raz you in addition answering your question (whether the teasing is playful or not playful is irrelevant), it is usually not a good idea to attack them, especially with foul language on a list that is public access. (Little children could read it.. and we all know how impressionable little children are..) The main reason for this, of course, is that technical people (that's us) don't respond well to attacks.. they tend to blow up planets and such. (I knew one fellow who blew up a planet just because someone said he had funny ears...) Another good reason would be all the flames you will recieve in response. (This letter is technically a flame.. I would call it more of a spark though, since it is rather mild). Of course, a great reason not to be a shmuck and "bite the hand that feeds you" even if it is a little rough, is that you probably won't get any help if you ever ask again (technical people [that's us] usually have good memories). Anyway, that was just my 2p Clark From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 05:59:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA28513 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 05:59:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA08288; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 05:58:55 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA16410; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 05:55:44 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA49400 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 05:54:40 -0800 Received: from green.indy.net (green.indy.net [199.3.65.18]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA26186 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 05:54:40 -0800 Received: from indy4.indy.net (root@indy4.indy.net [199.3.65.4]) by green.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA00450; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:55:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (pfarabee@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by indy4.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA29057; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:46:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:46:33 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Noone Special To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Norbert Koch X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: pfarabee@indy4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 14 Jan 1998, Norbert Koch wrote: > Now listen sweetie ... > [FLAME DELETED] > > Malcolm ... hmm, imo it's the 'o' that's lacking :-) Darn you, I was gonna point that out :P~ Reminds me of the time when I just graduated from HS and put "Honors Curiculum" on a job application. The only response I recieved (via US Postal) was a note reading "Blah blah.. position has been filled.. blah.. P.S. - If you want to emphisize that you took advanced classes in High School, you should probably spell 'Curriculum' correctly." Of course, being a cocky little @#$@, I HAD to respond with a letter stating "If you want to criticize someone for spelling, you should be sure your own spelling is perfect first. The word 'emphasize' is not spelled e-m-p-h-i-s-i-z-e." I did not get a reply. Pat (last submission to this thread) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 07:01:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA29277 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 07:01:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA18433; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 07:00:55 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA25191; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 06:56:58 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA49214 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 06:55:50 -0800 Received: from ursa.cus.cam.ac.uk (ursa.cus.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.6]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id GAA20764 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 06:55:46 -0800 Received: from kmj1000 by ursa.cus.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0xsUEC-0007eq-00; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:55:36 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:55:36 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "K.M. Jeary" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: "K.M. Jeary" X-To: Noone Special X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: kmj1000@ursa.cus.cam.ac.uk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I normally ignore both breaches of netiquette and responses to same, since life is _definitely_ too short. Although I agree with the previous sender [ie if you insult a list, you are unlikely to get help from it] I _would_ ask people generally to bear in mind that there are people with real spelling/grammatical problems out there ie non-native English speakers and people with dyslexia. I should know;- I live with a dyslexic, and have difficulty in communicating with his brother [a friend] since he is also dyslexic, and very reluctant to send email to anybody, let alone lists or newsgroups because he gets flamed on these points. I should also add that he is one of the most competent people, technically, that I know. He has tried spell checkers and various other IT solutions, and they have proved inadequate [words out of context etc]. Speech to text may solve the problem in the near future, but it ain't yet really adequate - especially if you have an English, not an American, accent! So, please, next time you feel inclined to hit somebody over the head (metaphorically) for their spelling or their grammar, consider your immediate reaction first:-) Internet: K.M.Jeary@ucs.cam.ac.uk University Computing Service, Computer Laboratory, Pembroke St, Phone: +01223 335039/335632 Cambridge CB2 3QG, England. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:40:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA31059 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:40:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA20366; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:40:25 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA01478; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:37:11 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA32984 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:35:51 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA30541 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:35:49 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA19635 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:34:28 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:34:28 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Norbert Koch >Date: 14 Jan 1998 09:10:54 +0100 >Malcolm ... hmm, imo it's the 'o' that's lacking :-) I think Malcolm was making a pun. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:47:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA31233 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:47:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA20581; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:47:54 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA49324; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:43:26 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA30098 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:42:06 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA22473 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:42:01 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA19720 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:40:42 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:40:42 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Noone Special >Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 08:32:30 -0500 (EST) >On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Jennifer Call wrote: >>when dealing with people, be polite and try not to be a pompus ass-hole. Did >>you read THAT clearly. >Of course, a great reason not to be a shmuck and "bite the hand that feeds >you" even if it is a little rough, is that you probably won't get any help if >you ever ask again (technical people [that's us] usually have good memories). I must strongly protest your use of the word "schmuck". For technical reasons, girls can't be, er, don't have, er . . . Well, the goyim shouldn't use Yiddish. It's dangerous. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:03:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA00626 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:03:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA22586; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:03:25 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA07608; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:58:38 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA13370 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:56:30 -0800 Received: from tsb.inet-images.com (quill09@tsb.inet-images.com [204.91.224.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA06345 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:56:25 -0800 Received: from localhost (quill09@localhost) by tsb.inet-images.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA12446 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:56:23 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:56:21 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: jenniferj@quill.net Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jennifer Jensen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: quill09@tsb.inet-images.com X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Envelope: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm new to this list, but can I offer my opinion? The question may not be been asked the best way, and the rebuttal was very inadvisable. However, I believe that we're flogging a dead issue here, and getting off-track besides. That's just my two cents, of course. J. -------------------- jenniferj@quill.net jjense03@hercules.baker.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:32:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA01301 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:32:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA23381; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:32:43 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA41162; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:27:28 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA39956 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:24:59 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA07576 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:24:59 -0800 Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (root@jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA23181 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:24:56 -0800 Received: from dante24.u.washington.edu (moveras@dante24.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.74]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA27016 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:24:55 -0800 Received: from localhost (moveras@localhost) by dante24.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA24970 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:24:54 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:24:54 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "M. Overas" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: bug report MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Howdy; every time I open my e-mail, a notice telling me that I have a (quote) Bad context: no "[" in listserve" comes up and I don't know how to correct the bad listing. Perhaps you could help me on this, although the error certainly does not seem to affect operations. Thanks, Mark O From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:52:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA01687 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:52:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA14937; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:52:21 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA13375; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:47:14 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA50896 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:45:38 -0800 Received: from green.indy.net (green.indy.net [199.3.65.18]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA05070 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:45:32 -0800 Received: from indy4.indy.net (root@indy4.indy.net [199.3.65.4]) by green.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA10276 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:45:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (pfarabee@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by indy4.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA12058 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:45:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:45:54 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Noone Special To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: pfarabee@indy4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > >From: Noone Special > >Of course, a great reason not to be a shmuck and "bite the hand that feeds > > I must strongly protest your use of the word "schmuck". For technical reasons, > girls can't be, er, don't have, er . . . > Face it, Adam.. the populous has hijacked many wonderful Yiddish words and bastardized them to fit situations not appropriate for them. Perhaps Yiddish will become the national language? Or maybe just the preferred slang of the masses. > Well, the goyim shouldn't [BLAH BLAH] Hey.. "Go yim!".. sounds like something you would hear at a Japanese baseball game. :P~ Pat From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:44:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA03158 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:44:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA25165; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:44:27 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA19594; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:40:44 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA30126 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:39:27 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA11022 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:39:24 -0800 Received: from ops_svr (ip33.irvine.quik.com [207.38.102.33]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA50340; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:37:38 GMT Message-Id: <002e01bd20e0$77885b30$216626cf@ops_svr> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:35:01 -0000 Reply-To: "Colin J. Raven" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Jennifer Call" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Jennifer; Ahhh, please excuse my delay in responding to your email. I was picking my fragile ego up from the floor and attempting to fix it with Super Glue(tm) You still are not capitalizing your 1st person references ("I" as opposed to "i"). Declarative sentence structure still needs considerable work. "Tell it *to* you"???? Your usage of that structure is interesting. One could surmise that you were born to a different native language...Arabic perhaps? Maybe English instruction in Iraq isn't quite the thorough process we might all have thought it to be. Spelling is definitely below par, the last time I checked "pompous" contained an "o" and asshole (in current profane usage) is generally written as one word. It is preferable to avoid the use of profanity (pun...noooooo!) when responding to public forums such as this. Talleyrand, a noted French philosopher, raconteur, and judge of good whiskey observed in 1823; "Swearing is the means by which the lowly and inarticulate choose to express their buried rage" Given that he seems to have been right on the mark with numerous other profound observations made during his "dark period" this one is certainly food for thought. Last but far from least Jennifer, do yourself a favor before you descend into the bottomles pit of the lowest common denominator (The new, ignorant and learning-challenged Internet user). Learn the rules of composition, spelling and what has come to be known as "Netiquette". If you have such a sensitive nature, respond to a person with sardonic wit, finely tuned sarcasm, exquisitely gracious charm and good humor. That way, you really get your point across, and frequently elicit an apology from the offending (sic) party. You will most assuredly not receive one from me. Oh yes, lest I forget. You commented on politeness, or the lack thereof. Apparently the method for retrieval of attachments suggested by myself (and I now find from numerous other kind list members, as is customary on this most exquisitely polite mailing list) worked as described. The party that erred in faling to observe the standards of politeness and gracious behavior is you dear lady, not me. It is customary to post a brief "thanks for the advice to all list members who posted the answer, (it) worked like a charm". Once more, your plebian origins are apparent, nowhere do I see anything that approximates such a simple acknowledgement (although the listserver has been known to be slow...once on November 18th 1996 if I recall). So dear lady, perhaps you should "retire and consider" as Lord Nelson commented at Trafalgar. Next time you post to a list, be sure you are on the moral high ground, and when you venture onto Internet mailing lists, rememeber that they are ribald lively places, where the thin skinned and insecure should not venture. Hope this helps, and the best of luck to you. -Colin. (Oh, maybe that should have read "Bon Chance Madameoiselle, et au revoir" that way, you couldn't fault the politeness aspect, but ohmygosh, there I go again!) > Colin, thank you for your help. it is nice that you take the time >to help me out. If i wanted your opinion on my grammer, i will tell it to >you. when dealing with people, be polite and try not to be a pompus >ass-hole. Did you read THAT clearly. > > Thankfully yours > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:54:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA03280 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:54:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA25380; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:54:45 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA20483; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:50:58 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA16464 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:49:52 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA18486 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:49:50 -0800 Received: from ops_svr (ip33.irvine.quik.com [207.38.102.33]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA09862; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:48:13 GMT Message-Id: <003701bd20e1$f2158930$216626cf@ops_svr> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:45:35 -0000 Reply-To: "Colin J. Raven" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hmmmm, you are without doubt correct, and the rebuttal was not one that I would normally have elected to post. Once in a while however, I read something (allegedly) written from the halls of academia...advanced academia at that, not 'yer high school dumbkopf which makes me want to a) scream b) vomit in disgust. It's your taxes and mine that fund what we laughingly and erroneously refer to as the education system. That post was almost inarticulate, whining, appallingly written and pathetic. It got to me, and I was obliged to fire a sarcastic reminder of that back at the offending party, together with the answer to her question I might add. Inadvisable??? Yes without question, and not my customary response. I don't regret it, but I do agree with you that it's off track. Ask yourself however, how the hell do people like that wind up in college? A colleague of ours, (now attending to hard drive problems so therefore absent temporarily) would have been measureably less kind, and the person concerned would have kicked in her terminal screen upon receipt of his advice! Mine was mild....almost tepid by comparison. Anyway...back to the subject at hand. I'm done. -Colin -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer Jensen To: Pine Discussion Forum Date: Wednesday, January 14, 1998 6:01 PM Subject: Re: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >I'm new to this list, but can I offer my opinion? The question may not be >been asked the best way, and the rebuttal was very inadvisable. However, I >believe that we're flogging a dead issue here, and getting off-track >besides. >That's just my two cents, of course. > >J. > >-------------------- >jenniferj@quill.net >jjense03@hercules.baker.edu > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:58:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA03381 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:58:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA25491; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:58:25 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA48066; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:53:22 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA38440 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:52:06 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id LAA16078 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:52:04 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 14 Jan 98 20:51:42 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA06520; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:48:42 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:48:42 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jennifer Call X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Jennifer Call wrote: > some of my friends send me pictures or some text to my mailbox. > When i try to viwe it, it tells me to to hit v then s. Well i can't find > it and i don't know how to retreave it!!! Did you read the help pine gives you? Hit "?" in the saving screen > When i type DIR when i log in, there it is...i can't get to it, is there > any way to put it on a disk and open it later?? Sure. It's all described very well in the documentation that's available for pine, and it's sometimes system-specific (i.e. I don't know if you're allowed to mount a floppy if you're on a u*ix system). > /what can i DO???? Stop shouting, start reading. Go to the pine website and grab a copy of the documentation. It's worth reading, anyway. Robin -- My hdd is falling apart and my sendmail.cfg was its first victim. My from: line is broken. Sorry! I'm robin@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:58:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA03395 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:58:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA25493; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:58:26 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA31124; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:55:11 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA30944 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:53:43 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id LAA24197 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:53:42 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 14 Jan 98 20:53:19 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA06533; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:50:20 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:50:20 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: bug report In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "M. Overas" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, M. Overas wrote: > every time I open my e-mail, a notice telling me that I have a (quote) > Bad context: no "[" in listserve" comes up and I don't know how to correct > the bad listing. Perhaps you could help me on this, although the error > certainly does not seem to affect operations. Thanks, Mark O This is not a bug in pine. Talk to your local system administrator about it. Robin -- My hdd is falling apart and my sendmail.cfg was its first victim. My from: line is broken. Sorry! I'm robin@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:02:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA03505 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:01:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA25573; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:01:18 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA19641; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:57:49 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA10556 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:56:42 -0800 Received: from sakaki.communique.net (sakaki.communique.net [204.27.65.7]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA16580 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:56:40 -0800 Received: from nodon.communique.net (ppp-204-27-123-172.co.communique.net [204.27.123.172]) by sakaki.communique.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA01678 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:56:01 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <007a01bd2126$1a2ef200$c8a3070a@nodon.communique.net> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:53:25 -0600 Reply-To: "Speaking Freely" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Speaking Freely" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Fw: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Jennifer and others: She is right. If this flaming must go on, why not direct the flames at the person who deserves them rather than clutter up the group? I for one have recieved very helpful feedback from the group. Some people are nicer than others, but then again, the information provided here is free. I must say though that Colin of all people on the list seems to try to get reactions like this. His attitude is relatively condescending when responding to people he assumes to be less technically endowed. If he were to cool it down a little on his tone, these kinds of people problems wouldn't be so widespread within the group. But then of course, maybe Colin is british and that is just a tad bit of Irony and Sarcasm :) I will shut my mouth now, I have expended my 2 cents. P.S. I apologize for assuming Colin is male if they are female. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer Jensen To: Pine Discussion Forum Date: Wednesday, January 14, 1998 12:15 PM Subject: Re: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >I'm new to this list, but can I offer my opinion? The question may not be >been asked the best way, and the rebuttal was very inadvisable. However, I >believe that we're flogging a dead issue here, and getting off-track >besides. >That's just my two cents, of course. > >J. > >-------------------- >jenniferj@quill.net >jjense03@hercules.baker.edu > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:59:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA06807 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:59:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA28737; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:58:58 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA00673; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:54:43 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA36570 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:50:55 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id NAA25179 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:50:50 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 14 Jan 98 22:50:25 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA06577 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:21:33 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:21:33 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Jennifer, Grammer, Netiquette, and Life in General... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Yo! My harddisk is still falling apart, XEmacs is still dead, and I just found that an MUA that doesn't sort mail and display threads *sucks*. Did I mention pico? No? Ok, pico *sucks*, too, but my .pinerc... Well... .pinerc: I/O error Anyway... I fired up my response to Jennifer's orginal message regardless of the thread that had already developed, because the responses were buried among 896 other messages. If, however, I had read the entire thread beforehand, my reaction would have been entirely different... 1. Jennifer: you're no fun, and you don't have a clue, either. Please get one from a local brainware store. Get yourself a spellchecker, too. 2. Adam et al.: I don't just flame people? I've been on this list for some time and I must say that it's getting less and less fun. There are almost no technical problems here anymore. Instead, we get newbies (which was alright before the People at the Pine Tower decided that this list be the forum for technical discussion). Some of these newbies just don't have a clue. Now, you might argue that this is what newbies are like. NOT! I still maintain that *every* newbie ought to have read the netiquette or at least the stuff her ISP had handed out to her. I may be old-fashioned, but I will *not* give up easily. If someone comes to this forum looking for help, I expect her to maintain a minimum standard of politeness. And I don't mean crawling, I mean: a) a sensible subject (Jennifer, "HELP!!!" *sucks*, ok?) b) a meaningful signature (.signature: I/O error ]:-< ) c) consulting at the very least pine's online help, because it's good and easy to understand d) due diligence in composing one's message - pine offers a spell checker, and the reader can expect a minimum standard of readability. Jennifer: it might take us (nota bene, we're just users, we're not the pine team, ok?) some time to figure out a solution to your problem and type an answer. It's not asked too much of you to spend a little time to proofread you message, is it? 3. The people who offer free advice deserve a) respect, b) gratefulness, c) worship ... ooops! Ok, let's put it this way: when you get a helpful answer to your problem, don't start bitching because you get mildly toasted for your various violations of the netiquette. Noone told you that you suck, we only ridiculed your poor "grammer" and spelling. If you cannot live with that, get *commercial* support, ok? ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++ As for life in general: my harddisk is still broken. This sucks. XEmacs and mutt already went down the drain. For some reason, pine still lives. Must be Murphy's. pine is not a good mailer for me. Not at all. It doesn't sort mail, it doesn't do threading, it doesn't score (well, I do, but that's not the question, is it?) and pico is an abomination. I hereby request that pico be replaced with an editor that does propper wrapping and indentation and which can be made aware of vi or Emacs keys. Did I hear anyone say "joe"? Hmmm... yeah... broken hdd's suck. This might be the last message for two days. Go visit my website while you can, I got this really cool picture of me and my girlfriend up: . Jennifer, you might want to go here: . If anyone should feel the irrestible urge to send me a reply, my address is: robin@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de. I want my new 9GB drive - now! Later, Robin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:18:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA07468 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:18:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA20454; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:18:03 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA02642; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:14:15 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA32580 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:12:10 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id OAA07499 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:12:08 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 14 Jan 98 23:11:45 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA07079; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 00:08:46 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 00:08:46 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Fw: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <007a01bd2126$1a2ef200$c8a3070a@nodon.communique.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Speaking Freely X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Speaking Freely wrote: > She is right. If this flaming must go on, why not direct the flames at the > person who deserves them rather than clutter up the group? Why not? Messages like the OP's have become a common trait here. This is not a Good Thing (tm). It does not acutally "clutter up the group", either. This list was supposed to be for technical problems. Well, that doesn't seem to work. So it might be used as a forum where one can, well, do some educational stuff. > I must say though that Colin of all people on the list seems to try to get > reactions like this. This is positively incorrect. It's also demeaning my articles. Shame on you. As a matter of fact, noone here is trying to get even more stoopid lusers on the net. On the contrary. Colin was making a very valid point with his article. It's not nice to hop into a mailing list, asking for information that is at your very fingertips, and it's suicidal to flame people that offer you free help. > His attitude is relatively condescending when responding to people he > assumes to be less technically endowed. Whiner. And it's *not* condescension you're experiencing here, but mere frustration, because "we" are becoming a minority - "we" meaning people that know what they're doing because we did in fact spend some time reading the documentation. You know, the pine docs are rather well written, and it doesn't take much time at all to read them. Personally, I cannot even begin to understand how one could not be able to download a file when all the necessary steps are explained in the docs _and_ probably a handout by the young lady's university. > If he were to cool it down a little on his tone, these kinds of people > problems wouldn't be so widespread within the group. No. If he were, this would be the most boring place on the entire internet, because there's no input whatsoever from the kind and gentle people like Ray Cummins and Annelise Undersome. There is, however, input from people like Colin. Take it or leave it - it's free and it's up to him if he want's to flame some luser for violation of the netiquette or not. > P.S. I apologize for assuming Colin is male if they are female. Geez, get a life... PC is dead and we've come to bury it. Robin SWM From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:19:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA07507 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:19:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA20496; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:19:15 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA18606; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:15:49 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA32536 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:12:30 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA04707 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:12:26 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA24169 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:11:05 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:11:05 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Jennifer, Grammer, Netiquette, and Life in General... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: "Robin S. Socha" >Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:21:33 +0100 (CET) >2. Adam et al.: I don't just flame people? I didn't say anything at all about you. My only contribution was on the schmuck subthread. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:28:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA07849 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:28:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA20773; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:28:39 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA03971; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:25:37 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA42074 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:24:06 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id OAA06081 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:23:58 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 14 Jan 98 23:23:34 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA07241; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 00:20:36 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 00:20:36 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Jennifer, Grammer, Netiquette, and Life in General... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Adam H. Kerman" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > >From: "Robin S. Socha" > >2. Adam et al.: I don't just flame people? > I didn't say anything at all about you. My only contribution was on the schmuck > subthread. Subthread? What "thread"? Pine doesn't know threads. You're on the Pine mailing list. Stay *on* topic, ok? Duhh... Robin "SCNR" Socha From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:27:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA09452 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:27:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA22367; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:27:52 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA07163; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:23:22 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA39806 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:21:42 -0800 Received: from ftoomsh.progsoc.uts.edu.au (root@ftoomsh.progsoc.uts.edu.au [138.25.6.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA07124 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:21:39 -0800 Received: from ftoomsh.progsoc.uts.edu.au (magicman@ftoomsh.progsoc.uts.edu.au [138.25.6.1]) by ftoomsh.progsoc.uts.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA07611; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:19:34 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:19:33 +1100 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Oleg Kokotovic To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: configuring pico In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Norbert Koch X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 14 Jan 1998, Norbert Koch wrote: > >>>On Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:51:23 +1100 (EST), Oleg Kokotovic said: > > OK> hi everyone! i love using pine and pico as the preferred editor > OK> (on a unix platform). however, i do need to set the tab size to > OK> 4 (for work purposes). i was just wondering if there was any way > OK> to do this, as i cannot find any similar configure commands on > OK> pine/pico. any help on this would be greatly appreciated. thank > OK> you. ps. i know how to do it in vi, but i hate vi and any > OK> clones/associates. > > Hi, just a guess after a glance ... > > the only fast solution I've found is a recompile (hmpf) after a change > of the following line ... > > mswin.c:8253:#define TAB_SIZE 8 > > maybe you could send in a patch making the variable user definable :-) > > l8er, norbert. > thank you for your reply, norbert. this was bout the only thing that i could come up with, though i must add i hadnt had an idea where to start/what to edit. my proficiency is not as great as i would like it to be, though creating a patch that would make this value user-definable (preferrably somewhere in the main menu) would be a GREAT idea. im not very versed in diff files or such either, nor have i the technical expertise to do anything of the likes. perhaps there are any takers???? thanks again, Oleg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:38:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA11488 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:38:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA24399; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:38:33 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA40282; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:35:10 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA30746 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:33:58 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA15389 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:33:56 -0800 Received: from localhost (skramer@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id QAA18911; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:33:52 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:33:51 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: Stefan Kramer Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Stefan Kramer To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: hello. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Matt Mendlik X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Matt Mendlik wrote: > Message-ID: > From: Matt Mendlik > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:04:14 -0500 (EST) > Subject: hello. > > Dear Sir or Madam, > At the following web address, > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/96.05/msg00536.html > is a message from me with my address and full name printed. Could you > tell me why it is there, That's because you sent that message to the pine-info mailing list, which is archived on our WWW site. > and could you please remove it? Thank you. > > Matt Mendlik That message will disappear at the beginning of February. ------------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu PINE Information Center http://www.washington.edu/pine/ Computing & Communications University of Washington ------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:30:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA13554 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA05635; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:29:55 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA22570; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:26:08 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA38468 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:24:37 -0800 Received: from mole (mole.slip.net [207.171.193.16]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id SAA26653 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:24:36 -0800 Received: from slip-3.slip.net [207.171.193.17] (batchman) by mole with smtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 0xseyu-0005Zc-00; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:24:32 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:24:33 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shoeless in San Jose To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: hello. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: batchman@slip-3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Stefan Kramer wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Matt Mendlik wrote: > > > Dear Sir or Madam, > > and could you please remove it? Thank you. > > That message will disappear at the beginning of February. It may be removed from there, but it may still be found during a search using Dejanews. I've found archives that I've mailed to the list from well over a year ago. Greg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:29:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA16400 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:28:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA00804; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:28:55 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA06751; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:26:23 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA30916 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:24:30 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA24757 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:24:30 -0800 Received: from mbg.vsnl.net.in (mbg.vsnl.net.in.in-addr.arpa [202.54.12.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA00750 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:24:23 -0800 Received: from giasbga.vsnl.net.in ([202.54.12.162]) by mbg.vsnl.net.in (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA29297 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:53:08 +0000 Received: from localhost by giasbga.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA05336; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:47:14 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:47:13 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rajat Bhandari To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: QUERRY MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: rajat@giasbgb X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN SIR/MAM, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF IT IS OSSIBLE TO LOCK ONE PERTICULAR FOLDER.IF NOT PLEASE SUGGEST SOME OTHER METHOD SO THAT ONE FOLDER IS INACCESSIBLE TO OTHER USERS. THANKING YOU, RAJAT BHANDARI From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:43:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA16550 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:43:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA09524; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:43:53 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA09457; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:40:49 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA47386 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:38:50 -0800 Received: from boxoffice.rit.com ([204.182.110.26]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA24645 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:38:49 -0800 Received: from tinhead (hootie.zipcon.net [205.199.135.227]) by boxoffice.rit.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA12922 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:34:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980114233534.0086cc60@rit.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:35:34 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Geoff Reed To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: hello. In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: geoffr@rit.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Paranoid bugger, ain't he... (Matt Mendlik) At 04:33 PM 1/14/98 -0800, you wrote: >On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Matt Mendlik wrote: > >> Message-ID: >> From: Matt Mendlik >> To: Pine Discussion Forum >> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:04:14 -0500 (EST) >> Subject: hello. >> >> Dear Sir or Madam, >> At the following web address, >> http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/96.05/msg00536.html >> is a message from me with my address and full name printed. Could you >> tell me why it is there, > >That's because you sent that message to the pine-info mailing list, which >is archived on our WWW site. > >> and could you please remove it? Thank you. >> >> Matt Mendlik > >That message will disappear at the beginning of February. > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu > PINE Information Center http://www.washington.edu/pine/ > Computing & Communications University of Washington > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 00:01:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA16690 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 00:01:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA09722; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 00:01:01 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA10042; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:58:24 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA48092 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:56:32 -0800 Received: from isc.lf.net (isc.LF.net [194.64.4.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA15013 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:56:30 -0800 Received: by isc.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.95/isc.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remotehost sparclx with uucp for mxu2.u.washington.edu id m0xsk9x-000qupC; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:56:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de(really [192.9.200.142]) by mail.delta-ii.de via sendmail with smtp id for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:56:10 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jul-11) Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA21221; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:56:05 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 15 Jan 1998 08:56:05 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: QUERRY In-Reply-To: Rajat Bhandari's message of "Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:47:13 +0530 (IST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Rajat Bhandari X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >>>On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:47:13 +0530 (IST), Rajat Bhandari said: RB> SIR/MAM, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF IT IS OSSIBLE TO LOCK ONE RB> PERTICULAR FOLDER.IF NOT PLEASE SUGGEST SOME OTHER METHOD SO THAT RB> ONE FOLDER IS INACCESSIBLE TO OTHER USERS. THANKING YOU, RAJAT RB> BHANDARI The way I usually prevent others from reading my mail is to set the permissions correctly for the directory containing my folder collections. On un*x systems: chmod 0700 $HOME/mail (assuming the default) On some windows systems via explorer -> permissions, i guess Well, hth, norbert. -- Norbert Koch a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 02:10:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA18253 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 02:10:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA02811; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 02:10:11 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA14226; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 02:07:21 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA26810 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 02:05:23 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA31440 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 02:05:23 -0800 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.169]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA11209 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 02:05:20 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 05:05:07 EST Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: L69Skater To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: how do i view GIF files Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have got GIF file pics but i cant seem to look at them do you know how i cant look at them and if i need software, where i can get it. thanks L69Skater@aol.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 04:15:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA20635 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 04:15:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA04405; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 04:14:59 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA15868; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 04:02:28 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA41450 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 04:00:27 -0800 Received: from isc.lf.net (isc.LF.net [194.64.4.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA29422 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 04:00:25 -0800 Received: by isc.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.95/isc.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remotehost sparclx with uucp for mx4.u.washington.edu id m0xsnyA-000quNC; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:00:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de(really [192.9.200.142]) by mail.delta-ii.de via sendmail with smtp id for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:59:56 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jul-11) Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA22537; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:59:51 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 15 Jan 1998 12:59:51 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: how do i view GIF files In-Reply-To: L69Skater's message of "Thu, 15 Jan 1998 05:05:07 EST" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: L69Skater X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >>>On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 05:05:07 EST, L69Skater said: L> I have got GIF file pics but i cant seem to look at them do you L> know how i cant look at them and if i need software, where i can L> get it. thanks L69Skater@aol.com *arg* afaik pine gives you some hints, for example v(iew) and s(ave) the pic. Now, for un*x systems you can use something like xv to display the file. If you have a windows like machine, try one of the paint tools that come along (or use netscape). About the use of spell checkers in mails have a look in the thread 'help!!!!!!!!!!' and related subjects. l8er, norbert. -- Norbert Koch a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:56:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA23823 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:56:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA17311; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:56:54 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA24851; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:46:52 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA32576 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:43:29 -0800 Received: from bkb01-ims-01.us.ikom.net (bkb01-ims-01.ikon.com [205.145.58.62]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA21467 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:43:28 -0800 Received: by BKB01-IMS-01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:43:27 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:43:15 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Everett, Marty" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: pine 4.0 preview MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Cc: "Yang, Jennifer" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there a PINE 4.0 beta out that I can look at the see if it fixes an imap problem that I have. If so how do I get source to compile? Thanks Marty From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 09:01:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA24031 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 09:01:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA08924; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 09:01:42 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA25486; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:55:05 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA18724 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:52:34 -0800 Received: from sakaki.communique.net (sakaki.communique.net [204.27.65.7]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA10553 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:52:33 -0800 Received: from nodon.communique.net (ppp-204-27-123-224.co.communique.net [204.27.123.224]) by sakaki.communique.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA14478 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:52:16 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <002001bd21d5$9eba44c0$c8a3070a@nodon.communique.net> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:49:11 -0600 Reply-To: "Speaking Freely" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Speaking Freely" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Fw: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This one goes out to Mr. Robin, King of all knowitalls. -----Original Message----- From: Robin S. Socha To: Pine Discussion Forum Date: Wednesday, January 14, 1998 4:19 PM Subject: Re: Fw: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Speaking Freely wrote: > >> She is right. If this flaming must go on, why not direct the flames at the >> person who deserves them rather than clutter up the group? > >Why not? Messages like the OP's have become a common trait here. This is >not a Good Thing (tm). It does not acutally "clutter up the group", >either. This list was supposed to be for technical problems. Well, that >doesn't seem to work. So it might be used as a forum where one can, well, >do some educational stuff. Now, the egotists come out. Never realized that your endless babbling was considered educational. > >> I must say though that Colin of all people on the list seems to try to get >> reactions like this. > >This is positively incorrect. It's also demeaning my articles. Shame on >you. As a matter of fact, noone here is trying to get even more stoopid >lusers on the net. On the contrary. Colin was making a very valid point >with his article. It's not nice to hop into a mailing list, asking for >information that is at your very fingertips, and it's suicidal to flame >people that offer you free help. > >> His attitude is relatively condescending when responding to people he >> assumes to be less technically endowed. Sorry Robin. You are actually the most condescending of all, and for that shame on you! I didn't mean to try to take away your crown and give it to colin. Do you have a real job by the way, or is your job to monitor this list during the times when your hardware isn't falling apart? Is being a student all that you do aside from your *contributions* to this list? > >Whiner. And it's *not* condescension you're Actually Robin, I didn't realize there was a tone of whining in my statement. I was just offering objective input, which you felt the adolecent need to twist. Aren't you really the whiner? experiencing here, but mere >frustration, because "we" are becoming a minority - "we" meaning people >that know what they're doing because we did in fact spend some time >reading the documentation. You know, the pine docs are rather well >written, and it doesn't take much time at all to read them. Personally, I >cannot even begin to understand how one could not be able to download a >file when all the necessary steps are explained in the docs _and_ probably >a handout by the young lady's university. This point is well put! Why don't you just reply to people with this rather than belittle them? > >> If he were to cool it down a little on his tone, these kinds of people >> problems wouldn't be so widespread within the group. > >No. If he were, this would be the most boring place on the entire >internet, because there's no input whatsoever from the kind and gentle >people like Ray Cummins and Annelise Undersome. Indeed, and I am sure that you are one who wants to see Sadam Hussain conquer, because of course, without excitement from dictators like him, the world would be a dull place. Maybe you should should try being kind and gentle, people would react in a much more positive way. I certainly would have. There is, however, input >from people like Colin. Take it or leave it - it's free and it's up to him >if he want's to flame some luser for violation of the netiquette or not. Your opinion on who is a looser is clearly misguided, and less than subjective. As for Mr. Colin, his advice is what it is....Free. The old cliche about getting what you pay for has never been more applicable. > >> P.S. I apologize for assuming Colin is male if they are female. > >Geez, get a life... PC is dead and we've come to bury it. Oh Yeah moron, I forgot, being polite is not what you have been complaining about, it is all about netiquette isn't it. Of course, there is no corolation between nettiquette, politeness, and PC, or is there? You must be at least 18 years old Robin aren't you? By the way, this comment was included because after being on this list for quite some time, it wasn't until yesterday that I realized you were not a female. Or should I say bitch, because that is how you come across at every point you enter group conversation. > >Robin SWM > I have a small piece of advice for Robin SWM. Without endusers, there is no reason for you. Without developing software/operating systems that others can use easily, Bill Gateus will succeed in killing all efforts to battle his OS's. Fix the www.enemy.org link you have under your Microsoft link on your web site. It's amazing to me that someone who professes their intelligence and education as you do can act like such a child. don't expect further posts from me regarding this, as it has already wasted more time than I have to offer. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:55:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA26774 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:55:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA20261; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:55:26 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA07478; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:49:38 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA13400 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:48:07 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA05840 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:48:02 -0800 Received: from ops_svr (ip22.irvine.quik.com [207.38.102.22]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA41674; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:46:35 GMT Message-Id: <002301bd21a2$7df552d0$166626cf@ops_svr> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:43:57 -0000 Reply-To: "Colin J. Raven" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Speaking Freely" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN So tell me please, I'm curious....What have *you* contributed to the list lately? What knowledge have *you* passed on to newcomers? What contributions have you made to anyone's understanding of the email program known as Pine? Or is your coontribution confined to commenting acerbically on the responses of those who *do* contribute, *do* flame when needed, and *do* add to the otherwise bland nature of a technically oriented mailing list You entitle yourself "Speaking Freely" as well you might. Think for a moment about yur reaction to others who IN FACT speak.....Freely. I'll treat your comments more seriously when you render some assistance, as oposed to sitting in the gallery booing the players on the stage. If in doubt, read the above once again, and keep doing so until you understand that unless you are contributing or learning, you have NO place here! -Colin >This one goes out to Mr. Robin, King of all knowitalls. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Robin S. Socha >To: Pine Discussion Forum >Date: Wednesday, January 14, 1998 4:19 PM >Subject: Re: Fw: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > >>On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Speaking Freely wrote: >> >>> She is right. If this flaming must go on, why not direct the flames at >the >>> person who deserves them rather than clutter up the group? >> >>Why not? Messages like the OP's have become a common trait here. This is >>not a Good Thing (tm). It does not acutally "clutter up the group", >>either. This list was supposed to be for technical problems. Well, that >>doesn't seem to work. So it might be used as a forum where one can, well, >>do some educational stuff. > > >Now, the egotists come out. Never realized that your endless babbling was >considered educational. > > >> >>> I must say though that Colin of all people on the list seems to try to >get >>> reactions like this. >> >>This is positively incorrect. It's also demeaning my articles. Shame on >>you. As a matter of fact, noone here is trying to get even more stoopid >>lusers on the net. On the contrary. Colin was making a very valid point >>with his article. It's not nice to hop into a mailing list, asking for >>information that is at your very fingertips, and it's suicidal to flame >>people that offer you free help. >> >>> His attitude is relatively condescending when responding to people he >>> assumes to be less technically endowed. > > > >Sorry Robin. You are actually the most condescending of all, and for that >shame on you! I didn't mean to try to take away your crown and give it to >colin. Do you have a real job by the way, or is your job to monitor this >list during the times when your hardware isn't falling apart? Is being a >student all that you do aside from your *contributions* to this list? > > > >> >>Whiner. And it's *not* condescension you're > >Actually Robin, I didn't realize there was a tone of whining in my >statement. I was just offering objective input, which you felt the >adolecent need to twist. Aren't you really the whiner? > > >experiencing here, but mere >>frustration, because "we" are becoming a minority - "we" meaning people >>that know what they're doing because we did in fact spend some time >>reading the documentation. You know, the pine docs are rather well >>written, and it doesn't take much time at all to read them. Personally, I >>cannot even begin to understand how one could not be able to download a >>file when all the necessary steps are explained in the docs _and_ probably >>a handout by the young lady's university. > > >This point is well put! Why don't you just reply to people with this rather >than belittle them? > > >> >>> If he were to cool it down a little on his tone, these kinds of people >>> problems wouldn't be so widespread within the group. >> >>No. If he were, this would be the most boring place on the entire >>internet, because there's no input whatsoever from the kind and gentle >>people like Ray Cummins and Annelise Undersome. > > >Indeed, and I am sure that you are one who wants to see Sadam Hussain >conquer, because of course, without excitement from dictators like him, the >world would be a dull place. Maybe you should should try being kind and >gentle, people would react in a much more positive way. I certainly would >have. > > >There is, however, input >>from people like Colin. Take it or leave it - it's free and it's up to him >>if he want's to flame some luser for violation of the netiquette or not. > > >Your opinion on who is a looser is clearly misguided, and less than >subjective. As for Mr. Colin, his advice is what it is....Free. The old >cliche about getting what you pay for has never been more applicable. > >> >>> P.S. I apologize for assuming Colin is male if they are female. >> >>Geez, get a life... PC is dead and we've come to bury it. > > >Oh Yeah moron, I forgot, being polite is not what you have been complaining >about, it is all about netiquette isn't it. Of course, there is no >corolation between nettiquette, politeness, and PC, or is there? You must >be at least 18 years old Robin aren't you? By the way, this comment was >included because after being on this list for quite some time, it wasn't >until yesterday that I realized you were not a female. Or should I say >bitch, because that is how you come across at every point you enter group >conversation. > >> >>Robin SWM >> > > >I have a small piece of advice for Robin SWM. Without endusers, there is >no reason for you. Without developing software/operating systems that >others can use easily, Bill Gateus will succeed in killing all efforts to >battle his OS's. Fix the www.enemy.org link you have under your Microsoft >link on your web site. > >It's amazing to me that someone who professes their intelligence and >education as you do can act like such a child. > >don't expect further posts from me regarding this, as it has already wasted >more time than I have to offer. > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:55:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA26787 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:55:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA20279; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:55:49 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA03796; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:51:40 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA40236 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:48:31 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA05908 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:48:27 -0800 Received: from ds11.acs.ucalgary.ca (root@ds11.acs.ucalgary.ca [136.159.244.11]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id KAA20073 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:48:24 -0800 Received: from localhost by acs1.acs.ucalgary.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA71754; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:46:51 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:46:51 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Delphine Prinet To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: question about pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN can you please tell me how to locate someone's email adress using pine? thank you in advance. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:16:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA27291 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:15:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA12615; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:15:55 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA14454; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:10:52 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA03566 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:08:12 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA08623 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:08:09 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA23007; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:08:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:06:46 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: question about pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Delphine Prinet X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN You can't, exactly. Try using a web browser (lynx if you're on a telnet or dial in un*x account or netscape or internet explorer) and going to http://www.whowhere.com another place to try would be http://www.yahoo.com and then click on either people search or white pages, I don't remember which one it is there. Vinnie On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Delphine Prinet wrote: > can you please tell me how to locate someone's email adress using pine? > thank you in advance. > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:19:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA27370 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:19:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA12714; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:18:55 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA06156; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:14:57 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA34128 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:12:38 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA07705 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:12:37 -0800 Received: from ops_svr (ip22.irvine.quik.com [207.38.102.22]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA46990; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:10:56 GMT Message-Id: <004c01bd21a5$e4b612e0$166626cf@ops_svr> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:08:14 -0000 Reply-To: "Colin J. Raven" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: question about pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Delphine Prinet" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hmmm, using Pine you couldn't period. It won't "search". If you are looking for an email address locally, i.e. on campus, there may be other means to accomplish that. What you could do though, is with a web browser (using lynx if you want to stay within a UNIX environment) is go to http://www.bigfoot.com, or http://www.switchboard.com and search for the person's email address by their name, and (if you know) state. Depending on how new the person's email address is, you may well be able to locate it via these search mediums. It is possible that you won't get any hits if the address is really recent. Try it anyway to see if you get any results. Good Luck with your search! -Colin. -------------------------------------- Colin J. Raven Network & Systems Administrator HDS Lab, Inc. Costa Mesa CA | Harrison NY -----Original Message----- From: Delphine Prinet To: Pine Discussion Forum Date: Thursday, January 15, 1998 6:54 PM Subject: question about pine >can you please tell me how to locate someone's email adress using pine? >thank you in advance. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:04:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA29734 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:04:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA23643; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:04:06 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA19968; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:56:58 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA17672 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:54:51 -0800 Received: from boxoffice.rit.com ([204.182.110.26]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA06701 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:54:50 -0800 Received: from geoffreyr.corbis.com (host358.corbis.com [205.142.245.102]) by boxoffice.rit.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA13659 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:50:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199801152050.MAA13659@boxoffice.rit.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:50:15 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Geoff Reed To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <002001bd21d5$9eba44c0$c8a3070a@nodon.communique.net> References: <002001bd21d5$9eba44c0$c8a3070a@nodon.communique.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Speaking Freely wrote: -snip- It's amazing to me that someone who professes their intelligence and education as you do can act like such a child. don't expect further posts from me regarding this, as it has already wasted more time than I have to offer. --end snip-- Good thing we won't be hearing more from you on this subjest, at least if Robin and colin and others are coarse in their replies or flame someone, they have the COMMON COURTESY to use their REAL email addresses, rather than a fake email address that bounces.(heavy sarcasm mode on) It takes a really brave, intelligent person to critisize others from a fake email address. (heavy sarcasm node off) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:18:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA30078 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:18:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA15959; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:18:24 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA16734; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:14:05 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA50216 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:08:26 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA27129 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:08:24 -0800 Received: from s-cwis.unomaha.edu (s-cwis.unomaha.edu [137.48.1.11]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA23775 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:08:22 -0800 Received: from localhost (tlindahl@localhost) by s-cwis.unomaha.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA13048 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:04:21 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:04:21 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Todd Lindahl To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Regarding html attachment MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Where is the command in Pine to save a attachment in html format? I am not fimiliar with this e-mail package. Thank You From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:30:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA30310 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:30:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA24389; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:30:32 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA22174; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:25:56 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA50694 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:24:37 -0800 Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA10154 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:24:36 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.11) with SMTP id NAA10254; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:24:31 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:24:29 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David L Miller To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pine 4.0 preview In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Everett, Marty" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Everett, Marty wrote: > Is there a PINE 4.0 beta out that I can look at the see if it > fixes an imap problem that I have. If so how do I get source to compile? Sorry, not yet. What is the IMAP problem? -- David L. Miller | When the solution is simple, God Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | is answering. -- A. Einstein Box 354841, University of Washington | 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | Phone: (206)685-6240 FAX: (206)685-4045 | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:38:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA30537 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:38:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA24615; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:38:22 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA27686; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:32:37 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA48008 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:29:35 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id NAA26148 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:29:33 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 15 Jan 98 22:29:10 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA31934 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:26:18 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:26:18 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: QUERRY In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 15 Jan 1998, Norbert Koch wrote: > >>>On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:47:13 +0530 (IST), Rajat Bhandari said: > The way I usually prevent others from reading my mail is to set the > permissions correctly for the directory containing my folder > collections. > On un*x systems: chmod 0700 $HOME/mail (assuming the default) Ummm... no }:-> man bash, check for umask. > On some windows systems via explorer -> permissions, i guess Windows or explorer and system are contradictions in terms, Norbert. Robin - still pretty diskless :-( From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:40:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA31778 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:40:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA26274; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:40:51 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA28258; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:35:50 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA34280 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:34:32 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id OAA00274 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:34:30 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 15 Jan 98 23:34:05 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA31963; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 00:28:36 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 00:28:36 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Fw: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <002001bd21d5$9eba44c0$c8a3070a@nodon.communique.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Speaking Freely X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Speaking Freely wrote: > >On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Speaking Freely wrote: > >> She is right. If this flaming must go on, why not direct the flames at > >> the person who deserves them rather than clutter up the group? [if the pdf doesn't work as a forum for tex questions, we can do some educational stuff] > Now, the egotists come out. Never realized that your endless babbling was > considered educational. You don't need to, darling. Education is probably lost on you, anyway, since you haven't learnt to use a real name or a signature. > >> I must say though that Colin of all people on the list seems to try to > >> get reactions like this. > >This is positively incorrect. It's also demeaning my articles. Shame on > >you. As a matter of fact, noone here is trying to get even more stoopid > >lusers on the net. On the contrary. Colin was making a very valid point > >with his article. It's not nice to hop into a mailing list, asking for > >information that is at your very fingertips, and it's suicidal to flame > >people that offer you free help. > >> His attitude is relatively condescending when responding to people he > >> assumes to be less technically endowed. > Sorry Robin. You are actually the most condescending of all, and for that > shame on you! Sheeesh, you couldn't tell a smiley from a dishwasher until I threw it in your face, could you? > I didn't mean to try to take away your crown and give it to > Colin. Do you have a real job by the way, or is your job to monitor this > list during the times when your hardware isn't falling apart? Is being a > student all that you do aside from your *contributions* to this list? I'm a consultant for an international risk management agency. Any further questions, idiot? > >Whiner. And it's *not* condescension you're > Actually Robin, I didn't realize there was a tone of whining in my > statement. I was just offering objective input, which you felt the > adolecent need to twist. Aren't you really the whiner? Oh, dear... my, my... Ummm, would you mind if I said that you've got no clue? I haven't seen any input from you whatsoever. I've seen a lot from Colin. Any yes, you did in fact whine. I mean, what's your problem? You don't seem to know anything, otherwise you'd be helping. You have not been attacked, yet you feel you need to comment. You don't know Latin, yet you use the word "objective" without knowing what it acutally says. > >experiencing here, but mere > >frustration, because "we" are becoming a minority - "we" meaning people > >that know what they're doing because we did in fact spend some time > >reading the documentation. You know, the pine docs are rather well > >written, and it doesn't take much time at all to read them. Personally, I > >cannot even begin to understand how one could not be able to download a > >file when all the necessary steps are explained in the docs _and_ probably > >a handout by the young lady's university. > This point is well put! Why don't you just reply to people with this rather > than belittle them? I must really suck to be you. Listen, Dearoldmum, there's users and there's lusers. I would have told a user exactly that. In fact, I did. But Jennifer turned out to be a whiner. I don't like whiners. People that get a Terrormail account and Outlook Exploder 99 and come to this list and start whining that there is no Download Wizard or sm-tnf-converter and the like. This cannot be it. This is a technical forum (although right now it looks more like a kindergarten) and we still get a very high noise ratio. Ever wondered what the rest of the net is like? If I tell someone "go read the documentation which you can pick up here and which was put there by the same wonderful people that made pine available for free", I get some 5 f*cked up lusers like you telling me that RTFM is not a polite/valid/whatever answer. FUD. I don't need this crap. I help where I can, and that's that. If noone told people like Jennifer that the way they behave sucks and makes the net a lousy place to be, they wouldn't even know. I don't think they care, but I want them at least to know. Go figure. > >> If he were to cool it down a little on his tone, these kinds of people > >> problems wouldn't be so widespread within the group. > >No. If he were, this would be the most boring place on the entire > >internet, because there's no input whatsoever from the kind and gentle > >people like Ray Cummins and Annelise Undersome. > Indeed, and I am sure that you are one who wants to see Sadam Hussain > conquer, because of course, without excitement from dictators like him, the > world would be a dull place. This is a poor adoption of Goodwin's law, idiot. [x] get a life > Maybe you should should try being kind and gentle, I'm neither kind nor gentle. I'm not being paid for that. > people would react in a much more positive way. I certainly would have. My, this is making want to cry. Thank you, I really needed a moral boost from you. You made my day. > >There is, however, input from people like Colin. Take it or leave it - > >it's free and it's up to him if he want's to flame some luser for > >violation of the netiquette or not. > Your opinion on who is a looser is clearly misguided, and less than > subjective. I didn't say "looser". I said "luser". But you don't care, cause you joined the net in 97 and it's a really cool place where you can hang out and chat with many people who are all nice and gentle. Of course, I am misguided, of course my opinion is more than subjective. So? Were you trying to make some point by stating the obvious, Dearoldlamer? > As for Mr. Colin, his advice is what it is....Free. The old > cliche about getting what you pay for has never been more applicable. Hmmm... pico doesn't rot13 regions. Not good. Ok, let's put it this way: you're a rebel without a clue. You've apparently no idea of the technology you're using, otherwise I would have seen some input from you. But I haven't. Still you moan and whine and generally suck - big time. What's you goal in life? Become King Lackwit I ? People like Colin rule. People like you suck. Amazing how simple life really is, isn't it? > >> P.S. I apologize for assuming Colin is male if they are female. > >Geez, get a life... PC is dead and we've come to bury it. > Oh Yeah moron, I forgot, being polite is not what you have been complaining > about, it is all about netiquette isn't it. Of course, there is no > corolation between nettiquette, politeness, and PC, or is there? Partly. The netiquette is about getting along with other people in the absence of corporal punishment. PC is a communist tool for manipulating freedom of speech, putting loosers into positions they don't belong, and demeaning democracy in general. My M.A. thesis was about language manipulation by totalitarian regimes. PC is Goebbels reborn. No Goodwin here, just empirical findings. You loose. > You must be at least 18 years old Robin aren't you? By the way, this > comment was included because after being on this list for quite some time, > it wasn't until yesterday that I realized you were not a female. Or > should I say bitch, because that is how you come across at every point you > enter group conversation. >From people like you, I usually take this comment as a compliment. Thanks. Now go away, you're boring. > I have a small piece of advice for Robin SWM. Without endusers, there is > no reason for you. No, there isn't. If there weren't any, there would be no reason to improve Linux software. > Without developing software/operating systems that others can use > easily, Bill Gateus will succeed in killing all efforts to battle his > OS's. He's got more than one? What year is it at your place? Here in Germany, it's 1998 and there is no MS "OS" in existence. There's Dos and NT, both of which are no operating systems by Unix standards. > don't expect further posts from me regarding this, as it has already wasted > more time than I have to offer. Finally, some good news here from The Thing without a Name. Robin -- ~/.signature abducted by terrorists. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:00:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA02653 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:00:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA22622; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:00:31 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA08816; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:56:44 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA48306 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:55:10 -0800 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.170]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA27062 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:55:06 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:38:22 EST Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: GaMePlYr20 To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Beta-Tester needs a job Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I need a job as a Beta-Tester I will work hard and I've been working with electronics since I was 2 yrs. old From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:41:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA03118 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:41:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA01454; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:41:54 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA16271; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:36:48 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA37896 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:34:26 -0800 Received: from bkb01-ims-01.us.ikom.net (bkb01-ims-01.ikon.com [205.145.58.62]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA17269 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:34:25 -0800 Received: by BKB01-IMS-01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:34:24 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:34:22 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Everett, Marty" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: RE: pine 4.0 preview MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-To: "'David L Miller'" , Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This a problem that I have ask about before. When I get mails from user of MS Exchange or outlook and they have the edit setup to be ms word then I can get the email and read it but it has trash at the end. I have call exchange support and I was told that this was fixed in pine 4.0 here is the test of message the I got from exchange support. It seems that the people at Exchange support are wrong and I need to call and tell that. thanks Marty start FYI -----Original Message----- From: Christopher McKinney [SMTP:chrismc@microsoft.com] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 1998 11:13 AM To: 'gimps@waycoolpeople.org' Subject: Pine 4.0 release 2 ??? Hello, I am a support engineer for Microsoft that has a customer that is experiencing problems with the Pine 3.96 client running on a R6000 terminal. The problem exists using RTF format of Exchange messages to the Pine email system. The customer is interested in trying the Pine 4.0 email client to see if the problem still exists. There was a link on the page below, that says you can get it here, but the URL is no longer active. Do you know where I may find it now? Any help would be deeply appreciated. http://intern.telalink.net/suggestion_box/data/5.html Posted by John Wayne Gacy on July 29, 1997 at 22:39:22: for anyone who liked the features of Pine 1.0 (Linux97 or Slackware98)you can download Pine 4.0 preview release 2 which has most of the new features. I already have it and I've had no problems. * Get it here... Thanks, Chris Mckinney Microsoft Exchange Support Chrismc@microsoft.com 972.756.7973 > -----Original Message----- > From: David L Miller [SMTP:dlm@cac.washington.edu] > Sent: Thursday, January 15, 1998 4:24 PM > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Re: pine 4.0 preview > > > On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Everett, Marty wrote: > > > Is there a PINE 4.0 beta out that I can look at the see if it > > fixes an imap problem that I have. If so how do I get source to > compile? > > Sorry, not yet. What is the IMAP problem? > > -- > David L. Miller | When the solution is > simple, God > Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | is answering. -- A. > Einstein > Box 354841, University of Washington | > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | > Phone: (206)685-6240 FAX: (206)685-4045 | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:56:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA03258 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:56:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA23526; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:56:48 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA27364; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:51:26 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA37830 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:49:44 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA01738 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:49:41 -0800 Received: from pm02sm.pmm.mci.net (pm02sm.pmm.mci.net [208.159.126.151]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA01579 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:49:39 -0800 Received: from mac (usr30-dialup7.mix1.WillowSprings.mci.net) by PM02SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #27034) with ESMTP id <0EMU0020HW1V43@PM02SM.PMM.MCI.NET> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 02:53:57 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <0EMU0020MW1V43@PM02SM.PMM.MCI.NET> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:53:44 -0600 Reply-To: macrea.coleman@MCI2000.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "M.M.COLEMAN" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: mime format MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: MULTIPART/ALTERNATIVE; BOUNDARY="Boundary_(ID_B3gQ+KcdHcttD92uSRcpgQ)" X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Priority: 1 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_B3gQ+KcdHcttD92uSRcpgQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I received a e-mail and part of it is in mime format. I never heard of mime format. it does say its a bmp . I was told that this is a photo cool so how do I open it? 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Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Regarding html attachment In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Todd Lindahl X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN posted and mailed >From: Todd Lindahl >Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:04:21 -0600 (CST) >Where is the command in Pine to save a attachment in html format? There is no such command, nor should there ever be one. You'll have to use a Web page editor. If, perchance, you were sent an attachment already in html format, use the v command, and save the appropriate attachment to a file in your home directory and naming it with an extension of .html. Then, read it with your browser. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:52:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA05022 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:52:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA04193; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:52:13 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA20400; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:48:38 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA13844 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:47:36 -0800 Received: from results.resultsp.com.mx (rodolfo@[140.148.120.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id VAA17452 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:47:34 -0800 Received: from localhost (rodolfo@localhost) by results.resultsp.com.mx (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA03211; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:50:46 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:50:45 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rodolfo Gonzalez Gonzalez To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Regarding html attachment In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Todd Lindahl X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Todd Lindahl wrote: > Where is the command in Pine to save a attachment in html format? > I am not fimiliar with this e-mail package. > Thank You When you're reading the message, press v, select the part of the e-mail you wanna save (the html attachment) and press s then you'll be prompted to enter the name of the file you wanna use to save the attachment, you can use the default name, enter your own one, or use the CTRL+T to use Pilot to browse your directory tree and then select a name. I recommend you use the default. Pr4ess entrer an voila!. Saludos. Rodolfo. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:32:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA05544 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:32:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA04681; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:32:37 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA21864; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:28:12 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA40108 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:27:08 -0800 Received: from hq.vni.net (hq.vni.net [205.252.27.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA25299 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:27:04 -0800 Received: from localhost (highway@localhost) by hq.vni.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA29381; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 01:26:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 01:26:53 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Solstice To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Regarding html attachment In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Rodolfo Gonzalez Gonzalez X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Rodolfo Gonzalez Gonzalez wrote: > Hello, > > On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Todd Lindahl wrote: > > > Where is the command in Pine to save a attachment in html format? > > I am not fimiliar with this e-mail package. > > Thank You > > When you're reading the message, press v, select the part of the e-mail > you wanna save (the html attachment) and press s then you'll be prompted > to enter the name of the file you wanna use to save the attachment, you > can use the default name, enter your own one, or use the CTRL+T to use > Pilot to browse your directory tree and then select a name. I recommend > you use the default. Pr4ess entrer an voila!. Or you can do the following: at the unix command copy the file /etc/mailcap to your home directory and name it ".mailcap". Edit your .mailcap and make the following modifications: 1. Locate "text/richtext; richtext %s; copiousoutput 2. add these three lines text/html; shownonascii iso-8859-1 %s; copiousoutput text/html; shownonascii iso-8859-8 %s; copiousoutput text/html; shownonascii iso-8859-7 %s; copiousoutput 3. Save file and run pine... 4. Voila, you can now view documents sent in HTML codes as HTML codes (TEXT). > > Saludos. > Rodolfo. > > "IF WE'RE THE ONLY LIFE IN THE UNIVERSE, WOULDN'T IT BE A WASTE OF SPACE." John "Highway" Tze-Chang Wu Alpha Phi Omega Nat'l Svc Fraternity highway@vni.net http://www.vni.net/apo (Epsilon Mu Alumnus) http://www.vni.net/~highway Central Perk Coffee House (Friends) (World Wide Web Developer) http://www.vni.net/~highway/Friends From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:40:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA05622 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:40:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA04796; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:40:46 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA27471; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:36:40 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA48262 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:35:38 -0800 Received: from hq.vni.net (hq.vni.net [205.252.27.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA17173 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:35:35 -0800 Received: from localhost (highway@localhost) by hq.vni.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA00915 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 01:35:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 01:35:32 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Solstice To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Regarding html attachment In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Solstice wrote: I forgot something, please check the end of this recap > Or you can do the following: > > at the unix command copy the file /etc/mailcap to your home directory and > name it ".mailcap". > > Edit your .mailcap and make the following modifications: > > 1. Locate "text/richtext; richtext %s; copiousoutput > > 2. add these three lines > > text/html; shownonascii iso-8859-1 %s; copiousoutput > text/html; shownonascii iso-8859-8 %s; copiousoutput > text/html; shownonascii iso-8859-7 %s; copiousoutput > > 3. Save file and run pine... Don't run pine just yet. 3b. Edit your .pinerc file Search for pattern "mailcap" and modify the following line to reflect the new change: # Sets the search path for the mailcap cofiguration file. # NOTE: colon delimited under UNIX, semi-colon delimited under DOS/Windows/OS2. mailcap-search-path=/usr/home/highway/.mailcap:/etc/mailcap > > 4. Voila, you can now view documents sent in HTML codes as HTML > codes (TEXT). > > > > > > Saludos. > > Rodolfo. > > > > > > "IF WE'RE THE ONLY LIFE IN THE UNIVERSE, WOULDN'T IT BE A WASTE OF SPACE." > John "Highway" Tze-Chang Wu Alpha Phi Omega Nat'l Svc Fraternity > highway@vni.net http://www.vni.net/apo (Epsilon Mu Alumnus) > http://www.vni.net/~highway Central Perk Coffee House (Friends) > (World Wide Web Developer) http://www.vni.net/~highway/Friends > > "IF WE'RE THE ONLY LIFE IN THE UNIVERSE, WOULDN'T IT BE A WASTE OF SPACE." John "Highway" Tze-Chang Wu Alpha Phi Omega Nat'l Svc Fraternity highway@vni.net http://www.vni.net/apo (Epsilon Mu Alumnus) http://www.vni.net/~highway Central Perk Coffee House (Friends) (World Wide Web Developer) http://www.vni.net/~highway/Friends From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:51:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA05701 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:51:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA26702; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:51:49 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA22947; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:48:59 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA37816 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:47:52 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id WAA01862 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:47:50 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 16 Jan 98 07:47:27 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA17420; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:44:18 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:44:18 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: RE: pine 4.0 preview In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Everett, Marty" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Everett, Marty wrote: > This a problem that I have ask about before. When I get mails from user > of MS Exchange or outlook and they have the edit setup to be ms word > then I can get the email and read it but it has trash at the end. I have > call exchange support and I was told that this was fixed in pine 4.0 > here is the test of message the I got from exchange support. It seems > that the people at Exchange support are wrong and I need to call and > tell that. Dear Everett, thank you for choosing a Microsoft product. We appreciate your information about MS Exchange's inability to create an RFC-compliant mail format. We are painfully aware of MS Exchange's shortcomings and are currently working on an upgrade which will be available shortly. It will be a trimmed version of MS Exchange and will probably called "mail" for obvious reasons. Since our R&D team have recently found that the use of a GUI for a mail application in fact decreases the program's user friendliness, "mail" will be run at the command line prompt. We envision a simple syntax for the use of "mail", e.g. "mail foo@bar.com". In order to make it RFC-compliant, it will not support RTF, HTML, or binary attachments. "mail" will only run under NT, though, but we will offer a special bundle price for the upgrade kit, which will also include KerNeL! 98, Fdisk Plus and an improved version of Write ("WriteNow!"). Yours truly, Robin S. Socha M.A. CEO German Web Force From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:52:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA05726 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:52:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA26707; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:52:38 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA28046; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:50:03 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA48320 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:47:55 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id WAA17759 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:47:53 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 16 Jan 98 07:47:30 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA17409; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:20:16 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:20:16 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Beta-Tester needs a job In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: GaMePlYr20 X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, GaMePlYr20 wrote: > I need a job as a Beta-Tester I will work hard and I've been working with > electronics since I was 2 yrs. old Dear GaMePlYr20, thank you very much for your valuable input. We highly appreciate your offer to work for us. Unfortunately, we will need some more detail about you and your programming experience. Please contact us again to give us further information. Yours truly, Robin S. Socha M.A. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:53:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA05712 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:53:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA04923; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:53:35 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA23057; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:51:03 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA46788 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:47:55 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id WAA26480 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:47:54 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 16 Jan 98 07:47:31 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA17412; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:27:09 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:27:09 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: mime format In-Reply-To: <0EMU0020MW1V43@PM02SM.PMM.MCI.NET> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: macrea.coleman@MCI2000.com X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, M.M.COLEMAN wrote: > I received a e-mail and part of it is in mime format. I never heard of mime > format. it does say its a bmp . I was told that this is a photo cool so > how do I open it? I'm running windows 95. can I get some help here?? Dear M.M.COLEMAN, thank you for choosing a Microsoft product. We appreciate your input on MIME and cool photos. However, we regret to inform you that you need to upgrade Windows 95 to Windows NT in order to view cool photos in MIME format. Windows 95 currently only supports blue screen pictures in GPF format. Yours truly, Robin S. Socha M.A. C.E.O. German Web Force From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:27:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA06116 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:27:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA27162; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:27:49 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA24652; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:24:47 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA38464 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:23:41 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA23075 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:23:40 -0800 Received: from sinapna.adn.edu.ph ([165.220.57.9]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA27101 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:23:10 -0800 Received: from localhost (s9510105@localhost) by sinapna.adn.edu.ph (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA13434; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:23:11 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:23:04 +0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "VILLAREAL. JOVAL L." To: "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: s9510105@sinapna.adn.edu.ph X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN sir, i just want to ask if i can still recover my deleted mails. it may be simple but i don't know how to do it. Thank you and hoping for your immediate response. Sincerely yours Joval L. Villareal Ateneo de naga college From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:23:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA11135 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:23:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA01601; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:23:38 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA05374; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:19:08 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA27554 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:17:14 -0800 Received: from bkb01-ims-01.us.ikom.net (bkb01-ims-01.ikon.com [205.145.58.62]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA03912 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:17:13 -0800 Received: by BKB01-IMS-01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:17:13 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:17:10 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Everett, Marty" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: RE: pine 4.0 preview MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-To: "'Robin S. Socha'" , Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I fail to understand you purpose in life. If you can not be helpful then just shut up because this trash is not constructive. > -----Original Message----- > From: Robin S. Socha [SMTP:uzs8kb@sushi.uni-bonn.de] > Sent: Friday, January 16, 1998 2:44 AM > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: RE: pine 4.0 preview > > On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Everett, Marty wrote: > > > This a problem that I have ask about before. When I get mails from > user > > of MS Exchange or outlook and they have the edit setup to be ms word > > then I can get the email and read it but it has trash at the end. I > have > > call exchange support and I was told that this was fixed in pine 4.0 > > here is the test of message the I got from exchange support. It > seems > > that the people at Exchange support are wrong and I need to call and > > tell that. > > Dear Everett, > > thank you for choosing a Microsoft product. We appreciate your > information > about MS Exchange's inability to create an RFC-compliant mail format. > We are > painfully aware of MS Exchange's shortcomings and are currently > working on > an upgrade which will be available shortly. It will be a trimmed > version of > MS Exchange and will probably called "mail" for obvious reasons. Since > our > R&D team have recently found that the use of a GUI for a mail > application in > fact decreases the program's user friendliness, "mail" will be run at > the > command line prompt. We envision a simple syntax for the use of > "mail", e.g. > "mail foo@bar.com". In order to make it RFC-compliant, it will not > support > RTF, HTML, or binary attachments. "mail" will only run under NT, > though, but > we will offer a special bundle price for the upgrade kit, which will > also > include KerNeL! 98, Fdisk Plus and an improved version of Write > ("WriteNow!"). > > Yours truly, > > Robin S. Socha M.A. > CEO German Web Force > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:25:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA30194 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:25:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA09837; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:25:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA05599; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:21:27 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA10194 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:19:12 -0800 Received: from bkb01-ims-01.us.ikom.net (bkb01-ims-01.ikon.com [205.145.58.62]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA03975 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:19:11 -0800 Received: by BKB01-IMS-01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:19:11 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:19:09 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Everett, Marty" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: RE: pine 4.0 preview MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-To: "'Robin S. Socha'" , Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I fail to understand your purpose in the forum. If you can not help then just shut up! thanks Marty > -----Original Message----- > From: Robin S. Socha [SMTP:uzs8kb@sushi.uni-bonn.de] > Sent: Friday, January 16, 1998 2:44 AM > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: RE: pine 4.0 preview > > On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Everett, Marty wrote: > > > This a problem that I have ask about before. When I get mails from > user > > of MS Exchange or outlook and they have the edit setup to be ms word > > then I can get the email and read it but it has trash at the end. I > have > > call exchange support and I was told that this was fixed in pine 4.0 > > here is the test of message the I got from exchange support. It > seems > > that the people at Exchange support are wrong and I need to call and > > tell that. > > Dear Everett, > > thank you for choosing a Microsoft product. We appreciate your > information > about MS Exchange's inability to create an RFC-compliant mail format. > We are > painfully aware of MS Exchange's shortcomings and are currently > working on > an upgrade which will be available shortly. It will be a trimmed > version of > MS Exchange and will probably called "mail" for obvious reasons. Since > our > R&D team have recently found that the use of a GUI for a mail > application in > fact decreases the program's user friendliness, "mail" will be run at > the > command line prompt. We envision a simple syntax for the use of > "mail", e.g. > "mail foo@bar.com". In order to make it RFC-compliant, it will not > support > RTF, HTML, or binary attachments. "mail" will only run under NT, > though, but > we will offer a special bundle price for the upgrade kit, which will > also > include KerNeL! 98, Fdisk Plus and an improved version of Write > ("WriteNow!"). > > Yours truly, > > Robin S. Socha M.A. > CEO German Web Force > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:38:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA11202 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:38:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA10008; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:38:24 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA06204; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:34:45 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA26092 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:33:40 -0800 Received: from green.indy.net (green.indy.net [199.3.65.18]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA09261 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:33:39 -0800 Received: from indy4.indy.net (root@indy4.indy.net [199.3.65.4]) by green.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA02457 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:34:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (pfarabee@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by indy4.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA17467 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:34:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:34:06 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Noone Special To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: RE: pine 4.0 preview In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: pfarabee@indy4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Robin S. Socha wrote: > Dear Everett, > > thank you for choosing a Microsoft product. We appreciate your information > about MS Exchange's inability to create an RFC-compliant mail format. We are [Rest of side-splitting comments *snipped*] > > Robin S. Socha M.A. > CEO German Web Force You don't think Robin has a minor dislike for Microsux Winblows products, do you? Did Bill Gates beat you as a child, Robin? Or do you just prefer real operating systems (Oh wait.. I forgot Win95 isn't an OS, but a GUI for an OS.. oh wait, that was the original Winblows, I guess Win95 is actually an OS, with a TUI (Textual User Interface, IE "MSDosPrompt" ;) for those people who actually care what the computer is doing.. I'm so confused..) :P~ Pat (I do Windows cuz it's 'hip'.. and all my toys are in Win95 format.) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 06:17:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA11494 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 06:17:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA10501; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 06:17:49 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA07666; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 06:13:00 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA29206 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 06:11:52 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA09745 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 06:11:51 -0800 Received: from public2.bta.net.cn. (public2.bta.net.cn [202.96.0.162]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id GAA02310 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 06:11:44 -0800 Received: from localhost by public2.bta.net.cn. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA03661; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 22:11:23 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 22:11:22 -0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: tengji@public2.bta.net.cn To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Sir, Two days ago, I received an email from pine-robot@docserver.cac.washington.edu which asked me if I like to use the new version of pine. It said there is only a little change so I said "yes". But then I found that the new version could not fit my email system or the maching. It destroyed many fuctions and documents. If possible, please help me cancel the new version and let me still use the old version. Or, you can tell me how to do it by myself. Your help will be greatly appreciated! Sincerely yours, Jian Teng From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 07:10:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA11892 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 07:10:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA11215; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 07:10:37 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA15777; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 07:04:51 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA24484 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 07:02:34 -0800 Received: from yakko.chicks.net (chicks@yakko.chicks.net [205.166.143.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA24086 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 07:02:32 -0800 Received: from localhost (chicks@localhost) by yakko.chicks.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA14362 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:02:28 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:02:28 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Christopher Hicks To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Robin is good. (was RE: pine 4.0 preview) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: yakko.chicks.net: chicks owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Everett, Marty expoused about Robin: > I fail to understand you purpose in life. If you can not be helpful then > just shut up because this trash is not constructive. And everything in life has to be totally and completely constructive. Don't laugh. Don't eat food that has taste. Think only constructive thoughts. No education should be in any way pleasant or entertaining. Yeah, right. Some of us appreciate Robin's wit. If you don't, procmail him. If you don't see his attempts to help people in straight forward ways as well as entertaining ways, then don't read his email. 63.Thou shalt not employ cheese as a means of sexual arousal. -http://www.mindworkshop.com/alchemy/command.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 07:30:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA11927 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 07:30:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA11466; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 07:30:04 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA12190; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 07:25:08 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA43012 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 07:22:38 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA14809 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 07:22:36 -0800 Received: from discworld.altara.org (tao.ce.gatech.edu [130.207.135.199]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id HAA11375 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 07:22:32 -0800 Received: (qmail 4631 invoked by uid 500); 16 Jan 1998 15:27:43 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:27:41 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Brian H. Trammell" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: PGP with Pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Greetings, I just installed PGP for Linux 5.0, and am trying to integrate it with Pine 3.96. I'm using the sending-filters config option to invoke pgp as follows: /usr/local/bin/pgps -fat (this is like pgp -fast in 2.6.2) pgp accepts the input from pine, asks me for the pass phrase, and reports Success! Press return to continue I press return, and Pine informs me: > Problem filtering: Success < and doesn't send the message. What am I doing wrong? Please cc me as i'm not yet subbed to pine-info. thanks, brian -- No PGP signature yet -- -- End lack of PGP signature -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- brian h. trammell http://www.altara.org/~brian georgia tech civil engineering system administration "The problem with the rat race is that the winner is still a rat." 0xf00fc7c8 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:21:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA12767 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:21:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA04436; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:20:57 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA20596; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:16:24 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA36498 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:14:19 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA30500 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:14:19 -0800 Received: from harrier.sasknet.sk.ca (harrier.sasknet.sk.ca [142.165.5.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA04249 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:14:16 -0800 Received: from sk.sympatico.ca (bulldog25.sk.sympatico.ca [142.165.108.25]) by harrier.sasknet.sk.ca (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA23544 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:14:39 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <34BF86E7.983AC392@sk.sympatico.ca> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:12:24 -0600 Reply-To: mcoates@sk.sympatico.ca Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Max E. Coates" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: message/partial MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Where can I downdoad message/parial software? Thanks. Max E. Coates From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:03:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA13743 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:03:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA13513; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:03:28 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA24538; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:59:56 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA34642 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:58:44 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id IAA03270 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:58:41 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 16 Jan 98 17:58:18 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA17891; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:55:32 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:55:32 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: RE: pine 4.0 preview In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Everett, Marty" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Everett, Marty wrote: > I fail to understand you purpose in life. If you can not be helpful then > just shut up because this trash is not constructive. Dear Everett, Marty, Thank you very much for your quick response. We regret to inform you, though, that we do not acutally sell "Purpose 98" as a plugin for MS Exchange or Outlook. However, we highly recommend using Microsoft's powerful ascii-editor "edlin" in its stead. This might possibly solve your problems with non-RFC-compliant email messages. The MS hotline, which is only $3 /min will certainly help you out with all the necessary information. If you should have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us again. Yours truly, Robin S. Socha M.A. CEO German Web Force From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:15:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA14098 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:15:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA13895; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:15:24 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA25513; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:11:48 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA24750 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:10:29 -0800 Received: from cyberport.cyberportal.net (mikec@cyberport.cyberportal.net [204.97.234.4]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA04648 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:10:28 -0800 Received: from localhost (mikec@localhost) by cyberport.cyberportal.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA10393 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 12:10:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 12:10:25 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Miike To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: reply to address MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Can you specify a different reply to address in pine? I cant find the setting in the config. Thanks! ______________________________________________________________ webmassa@phatboys.com * Mike Cross * Minister of Propaganda "If you can't convince them, confuse them." -Harry S Truman Mundus vult decipi, ergo decepiatur. Frontis nulla fides. -------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:17:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA14119 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:17:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA13949; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:16:57 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA20295; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:13:19 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA39366 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:11:38 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id JAA25735 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:11:33 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 16 Jan 98 18:11:10 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA17973; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:08:22 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:08:21 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: tengji@public2.bta.net.cn X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 16 Jan 1998 tengji@public2.bta.net.cn wrote: Hi, Jian Teng, > Two days ago, I received an email from > pine-robot@docserver.cac.washington.edu which asked me if I like to use > the new version of pine. It said there is only a little change so I said > "yes". But then I found that the new version could not fit my email system > or the maching. What operating system are you using? Without this information, there's nothing we can tell you. > It destroyed many fuctions and documents. Could you please be a little more specific on this one? What did Pine actually do, and how would it destroy documents? > If possible, please help me cancel the new version and let me still use > the old version. Again, we need to know your operating system. If you're on a u*ix system, which one, and which version of pine did you install. > Or, you can tell me how to do it by myself. Well, there is ample instructions at the pine website (where you possibly got your copy from, too). Cheers, Robin -- hdd still broken. UPS is no good :-( My address is From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:17:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA14125 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:17:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA05995; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:17:35 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA20498; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:14:42 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA39188 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:13:11 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA04985 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:13:08 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA10424; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:13:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:11:52 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: RE: pine 4.0 preview In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Everett, Marty" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN two words : comic relief another several words : he generally knows what he's talking about another word or four : chill. it's all alright :) Vinnie (She who cannot quote :) ) On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Everett, Marty wrote: > I fail to understand your purpose in the forum. If you can not help then > just shut up! > thanks Marty > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robin S. Socha [SMTP:uzs8kb@sushi.uni-bonn.de] > > Sent: Friday, January 16, 1998 2:44 AM > > To: Pine Discussion Forum > > Subject: RE: pine 4.0 preview > > > > On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Everett, Marty wrote: > > > > > This a problem that I have ask about before. When I get mails from > > user > > > of MS Exchange or outlook and they have the edit setup to be ms word > > > then I can get the email and read it but it has trash at the end. I > > have > > > call exchange support and I was told that this was fixed in pine 4.0 > > > here is the test of message the I got from exchange support. It > > seems > > > that the people at Exchange support are wrong and I need to call and > > > tell that. > > > > Dear Everett, > > > > thank you for choosing a Microsoft product. We appreciate your > > information > > about MS Exchange's inability to create an RFC-compliant mail format. > > We are > > painfully aware of MS Exchange's shortcomings and are currently > > working on > > an upgrade which will be available shortly. It will be a trimmed > > version of > > MS Exchange and will probably called "mail" for obvious reasons. Since > > our > > R&D team have recently found that the use of a GUI for a mail > > application in > > fact decreases the program's user friendliness, "mail" will be run at > > the > > command line prompt. We envision a simple syntax for the use of > > "mail", e.g. > > "mail foo@bar.com". In order to make it RFC-compliant, it will not > > support > > RTF, HTML, or binary attachments. "mail" will only run under NT, > > though, but > > we will offer a special bundle price for the upgrade kit, which will > > also > > include KerNeL! 98, Fdisk Plus and an improved version of Write > > ("WriteNow!"). > > > > Yours truly, > > > > Robin S. Socha M.A. > > CEO German Web Force > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:21:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA14231 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:21:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA06123; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:21:38 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA39206; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:16:51 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA10128 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:13:22 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id JAA23814 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:13:18 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 16 Jan 98 18:12:48 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA17984; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:10:02 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:10:02 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: PGP with Pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Brian H. Trammell" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Brian H. Trammell wrote: > I just installed PGP for Linux 5.0, and am trying to integrate it with > Pine 3.96. I'm using the sending-filters config option to invoke pgp as > follows: [bzzzzt] Simply hooking in pgp as a sending filter won't work. Check the pine archives for the addresses of pgp sending filters already in existance, e.g. papp by Aldo Valente or pgppine by Roland Rosenfeld. Cheers, Robin -- hdd still broken. UPS is no good :-( My address is From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:22:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA14253 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:22:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA14098; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:22:35 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA20868; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:18:45 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA18804 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:17:23 -0800 Received: from pump2.york.ac.uk (pump2.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.12]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA27783 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:17:21 -0800 Received: from pippin.york.ac.uk (pippin.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.9]) by pump2.york.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA27566; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:17:15 GMT Message-Id: <378641.3093959835@pippin.york.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:17:15 +0000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Mike Brudenell" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: reply to address MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Miike X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN --On Fri, Jan 16, 1998 12:10 pm -0500 Miike wrote: > Can you specify a different reply to address in pine? I cant find the setting > in the config. Thanks! That's because there isn't one explicitly... instead there is the much more general (and useful) "customized-hdrs" setting, which allows you to add any extra header you wish (not just "Reply-to:"). Read its online help for more info. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:28:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA14341 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:28:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA06337; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:28:36 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA39730; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:25:06 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA50180 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:23:25 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id JAA27290 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:23:20 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 16 Jan 98 18:22:55 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA18062; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:20:09 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:20:09 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: reply to address In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Miike X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Miike wrote: > Can you specify a different reply to address in pine? I cant find the setting > in the config. Thanks! Oh dear... M(ain) S(etup) C(onfig) w reply [ret] ? Ok? ;-) -- hdd still broken. UPS is no good :-( My address is From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:44:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA14603 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:44:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA06687; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:44:04 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA22900; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:40:17 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA49270 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:37:58 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id JAA26744 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:37:51 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 16 Jan 98 18:37:24 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA18152 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:34:38 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:34:37 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: reply to address In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Robin S. Socha wrote: Oops... That's "customize headers" in fact: OPTION: Customized-Headers You may add your own custom headers to all outgoing messages. Each header you specify here must include the header tag (Reply-To:, Approved:, etc.) and may optionally include a value for that header. If you want to see these custom headers each time you compose a message, you must add them to your default composer headers list (see above), otherwise they become part of the rich header set which you only see when you press the rich header (Ctrl-R) command. Sorry for the confusion, Robin -- hdd still broken. UPS is no good :-( My address is From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:53:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA14711 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:53:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA06910; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:53:15 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA29335; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:49:20 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA34124 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:48:06 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA09397 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:48:05 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA21818; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:48:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:46:50 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: Drachen Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: mime format In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN MD |N>K you are just in high form today, robin :) btw - I would have sent this via email, as it is rather off topic, however your email address (uzs8kb@sushi.uni-bonn.de) fails. sushi.uni-bonn.de does not have an MX record..or indeed any record. I take it this is purposeful? Vinnie On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Robin S. Socha wrote: > On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, M.M.COLEMAN wrote: > > > I received a e-mail and part of it is in mime format. I never heard of mime > > format. it does say its a bmp . I was told that this is a photo cool so > > how do I open it? I'm running windows 95. can I get some help here?? > > Dear M.M.COLEMAN, > > thank you for choosing a Microsoft product. We appreciate your input on MIME > and cool photos. However, we regret to inform you that you need to upgrade > Windows 95 to Windows NT in order to view cool photos in MIME format. > Windows 95 currently only supports blue screen pictures in GPF format. > > Yours truly, > > Robin S. Socha M.A. > C.E.O. German Web Force > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:30:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA15549 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:30:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA07892; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:30:01 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA02846; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:25:27 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA13754 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:23:12 -0800 Received: from green.indy.net (green.indy.net [199.3.65.18]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA02455 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:23:03 -0800 Received: from indy4.indy.net (root@indy4.indy.net [199.3.65.4]) by green.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA11763 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:23:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (pfarabee@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by indy4.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA01620 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:23:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:23:24 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Noone Special To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: PGP with Pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: pfarabee@indy4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have recieved a few requests for the filter, but noone has given me any feedback yet as to whether they like it or not.. go fig... Anyway, now is as good a time as any to resend the info, so here goes: Pat -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Most of you are familiar with pgppine and papp. A friend of mine and I have taken a copy of papp and performed practically a total rewrite on it. The program has many of the old features, like saving your password encrypted in a session key, but also has some handy new features, and MUCH more readable output. If you would like to help us test it (We haven't found any bugs in it with pine v3.96 and pgp v2.6.2), just drop me a line. NOTE: this program is available by request only until beta testing is completed, then we will post the perl script wherever. NOTE: be sure to include something in the Subject of your message pertaining to beta testing, as my mailbox gets flooded from time to time. Also, any suggestions as to other places to go for beta testers would be appreciated. Thank You, Patrick Farabee From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:12:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA16307 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:12:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA08882; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:12:07 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA07134; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:07:06 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA47882 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:05:29 -0800 Received: from pill.Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU (call@pill.Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU [128.196.140.107]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA19532 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:05:23 -0800 Received: from localhost (call@localhost) by pill.Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA22098; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 12:05:13 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 12:05:13 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jennifer Call To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Robin, Thank you for your help in trying to resolve this problem.It's difficult to get a response from my server, i'm receive it from the University here. When i do get a response, they think everyone should now computer jargon. There have been many helpful responses and i appreciate it but for every nice response I get alot computer geeks with very little lives, trying to correct my english. Thank you for your direct and kind response. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:10:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA18496 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:10:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA11700; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:10:07 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA12455; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:06:18 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA37658 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:03:40 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA21858 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:03:29 -0800 Received: from ops_svr (ip31.irvine.quik.com [207.38.102.31]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA30858 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 21:02:08 GMT Message-Id: <000301bd227e$9ac53100$1f6626cf@ops_svr> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:38:06 -0000 Reply-To: "Colin J. Raven" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ed? Robin? Any suggestions??? -C -----Original Message----- From: tengji@public2.bta.net.cn To: Pine Discussion Forum Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 2:20 PM Subject: help >Dear Sir, >Two days ago, I received an email from >pine-robot@docserver.cac.washington.edu which asked me if I like to use >the new version of pine. It said there is only a little change so I said >"yes". But then I found that the new version could not fit my email system >or the maching. It destroyed many fuctions and documents. If possible, >please help me cancel the new version and let me still use the old >version. Or, you can tell me how to do it by myself. Your help will be >greatly appreciated! >Sincerely yours, >Jian Teng > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:17:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA18660 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:17:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA19910; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:17:18 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA40776; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:11:47 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA27612 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:10:13 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA01843 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:10:12 -0800 Received: from mail.idigital.net (MAIL.IDIGITAL.NET [130.250.1.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id NAA19693 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:10:10 -0800 Received: from default [130.250.1.69] by mail.idigital.net (SMTPD32-4.02) id ADA41100DA; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:14:12 EST5EDT Message-Id: <01bd22dc$43cd00e0$4501fa82@default> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:10:06 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Claudette" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: e-mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BD2299.35A9C0E0" X-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BD2299.35A9C0E0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0006_01BD2299.35A9C0E0" ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01BD2299.35A9C0E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable how about you put my banner on your site. 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(8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA19249 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:51:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA12723; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:51:10 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA19194; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:44:10 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA18948 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:41:53 -0800 Received: from cyberport.cyberportal.net (mikec@cyberport.cyberportal.net [204.97.234.4]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA25450 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:41:52 -0800 Received: from localhost (mikec@localhost) by cyberport.cyberportal.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA15949 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:41:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:41:49 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Miike To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: "to" field MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN First I want to think the people that helped me on the last problem, in making a reply to address. Next, I'm not sure about this one either, is there anyway to change the "From" field? I have this account, but I also have a virtual domain and obvioulsy, to inflate my ego, I want to use the webmaster email address. Can anyone let me know if you can make such a change in Pine? Thanks. Forgive me if I'm just ignorant. ______________________________________________________________ webmassa@phatboys.com * Mike Cross * Minister of Propaganda "If you can't convince them, confuse them." -Harry S Truman Mundus vult decipi, ergo decepiatur. Frontis nulla fides. -------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:54:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA19278 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:54:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA20763; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:54:43 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA16197; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:48:58 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA49306 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:47:54 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA26123 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:47:53 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA06191; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:48:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:46:28 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: Drachen Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: e-mail In-Reply-To: <01bd22dc$9b3da5a0$4501fa82@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Claudette X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Assuming that you gave your correct email address. I have a few problems with your recent post to the pine-info mailing list On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Claudette wrote: First: it is clear that you aren't using pine. This : [NON-Text Body part not included] tells me that you are sending non-rfc compliant email. For more information I suggest you go to http://www.isi.edu/div7/rfc-editor/rfc.html and do an appropriate search. "mail" strikes me as a good one. (I dont' recall the most recent rfc number. sorry) Second : mailing lists are not a good or appropriate place for you to post your commercial advertisements. it is not appreciated and I can pretty much assure you you won't get any customers from this list. Third: the url that your banner is advertising does not exist. therefore, you annoyed the subscribers to this list pointlessly, as you really will not get customers if no one can find you. Fourth : the software you sell is used for spamming, from the sound of it. Spam wastes bandwidth and disk space. Spam is killing the news system. Email spam is inconsiderate, especially to those who have to download their mail via modem connections and had to wait for your banner. It also may be illegal, depending on where you live. In other words, don't do it again. Vinnie From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:01:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA19483 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:01:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA12982; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:01:14 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA16986; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:57:52 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA46818 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:55:54 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA26914 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:55:44 -0800 Received: from ops_svr (ip34.irvine.quik.com [207.38.102.34]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA36030; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 21:54:17 GMT Message-Id: <01f301bd2285$e3c1de10$1f6626cf@ops_svr> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:51:30 -0000 Reply-To: "Colin J. Raven" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: e-mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01E1_01BD2285.D9065EB0" X-To: "Claudette" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01E1_01BD2285.D9065EB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Number one...NO This is a mailing list devoted to the discussions = concerning an email program known as Pine. That is a major violation of just about every accepted standard of = etiquette across the Internet today. Plainly, don't do this...it's spam. It clogs up the network. If youy = posted to any other newsgroups or mailing lists go back there, re-post = and say that you're sorry. Oh, one more thing. If you ever ask someone to put up an image or link = to your site on theirs, I don't think "how about you put my banner on = your site" will accomplish your goal. It's rude, it's not a question = format that elicits any kind response. Go away and read Netiquette 101. -Colin -----Original Message----- From: Claudette To: Pine Discussion Forum Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 9:14 PM Subject: e-mail =20 =20 how about you put my banner on your site. Contact me at = firmbz@hotmail.com =20 ------=_NextPart_000_01E1_01BD2285.D9065EB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Number one...NO This is a mailing = list devoted=20 to the discussions concerning an email program known as = Pine.
That is a major violation of just = about every=20 accepted standard of etiquette across the Internet today.
Plainly, don't = do=20 this...it's spam. It clogs up the network. If youy posted to any other=20 newsgroups or mailing lists go back there, re-post and say that you're=20 sorry.
Oh, one more thing. If you ever ask someone to put = up an image=20 or link to your site on theirs, I don't think "how about you put my = banner=20 on your site" will accomplish your goal. It's rude, it's not a = question=20 format that elicits any kind response.
Go away and read Netiquette 101.
-Colin
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Claudette <claud@idigital.net>
To:=20 Pine Discussion Forum <pine-info@u.washington.edu= >
Date:=20 Friday, January 16, 1998 9:14 PM
Subject:=20 e-mail

how about you put my banner on = your site.=20 Contact me at firmbz@hotmail.com
 
------=_NextPart_000_01E1_01BD2285.D9065EB0-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:07:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA19638 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:07:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA13141; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:07:32 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA23542; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:04:46 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA13788 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:03:23 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id OAA07369 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:03:21 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 16 Jan 98 23:02:58 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA19659; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:00:13 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:00:12 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: "to" field In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Miike X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Miike wrote: > Next, I'm not sure about this one either, is there anyway to change the > "From" field? I have this account, but I also have a virtual domain and > obvioulsy, to inflate my ego, I want to use the webmaster email address. > Can anyone let me know if you can make such a change in Pine? Yes. Grab the tarball for your system off the pine site and say grep -i -5 changing_from on the tech-notes. Follow the instructions, recompile, install. > Forgive me if I'm just ignorant. Yes, you are. Read the docs, that will help. Cheers, Robin -- hdd still broken From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:07:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA19655 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:07:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA13144; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:07:34 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA23455; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:03:42 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA48330 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:01:54 -0800 Received: from cyberport.cyberportal.net (mikec@cyberport.cyberportal.net [204.97.234.4]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA27731 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:01:53 -0800 Received: from localhost (mikec@localhost) by cyberport.cyberportal.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA18434 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:01:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:01:51 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: hmmm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ok, now its starting to get interesting. How can I make it show the customized headers to the recipient? This is what I have done: The first thing that I did was play with the custom headers. Then I turned on the full headers option (CTRL+R) and there they were. However, when I went back in, I saw that there were also default headers. I tried changing it to let me adjust the "From" header, and it told me I couldnt do that. Then I put in the regular headers and the custom ones from below. Yeah. Well, once I had saved those changes I went again to compose another letter. However, only the regular headers were there. This wasnt cool. What was going on? So I changed the custom ones back to their own respective custom area in the settings, and did a full header command again, and filled them in and sent it. Aggh! This time, it sent fine, and I mailed it to myself. Aw, this is just great. It doesnt show the custom headers unless I have the full header command on! Is there anyway to force Pine to show those headers that I want it to see? Say I want my friends to see my website. I want a header to say: Website: http://www.foo.com/ It only shows up in full header display. Aw pooh, I was hoping to sneak that one in. It's getting interesting, although it's kinda a tease. Boo. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance. ______________________________________________________________ webmassa@phatboys.com * Mike Cross * Minister of Propaganda "If you can't convince them, confuse them." -Harry S Truman Mundus vult decipi, ergo decepiatur. Frontis nulla fides. -------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:29:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA20155 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:29:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA21644; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:29:34 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA41772; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:25:17 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA32754 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:23:15 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA30416 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:23:14 -0800 Received: from discworld.altara.org (tao.ce.gatech.edu [130.207.135.199]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id OAA13564 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:23:11 -0800 Received: (qmail 4918 invoked by uid 500); 16 Jan 1998 22:28:26 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:28:25 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Brian H. Trammell" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: pgp/pine, take II MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Greetings, Thank you for your previous suggestions. However, I am attempting to use PGP 5.0 with Pine, not 2.6.2. 5.0 has different calling semantics, and I am having quite a bit of difficulty porting any of the suggested solutions to PGP 5.0 due to these semantic differences. I would like to instead address why pine returns >Problem filtering: Success<... "Success" is not generated by pgps, pgpe, or pgpv (the pgp executables for pgp 5.0) so it looks like it's added by Pine's filter layer. But if Pine is returning success, why does it die with "Problem filtering"...I'm afraid I don't understand. tia, and please cc me. -brian -------------------------------------------------------------------------- brian h. trammell http://www.altara.org/~brian georgia tech civil engineering system administration "The problem with the rat race is that the winner is still a rat." 0xf00fc7c8 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:59:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA22107 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:59:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA16054; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:59:02 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA03426; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:54:53 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA44760 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:52:51 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA11480 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:52:47 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA25505 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:51:32 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:51:32 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pine 4.0 preview In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: "Everett, Marty" >Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:17:10 -0500 >I fail to understand you purpose in life. If you can not be helpful then >just shut up because this trash is not constructive. Since this mailing list is hardly being used for its intended purpose, Robin's purpose has been to keep me entertained. Thank you, Robin. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:02:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA22217 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:02:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA16148; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:02:31 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA27553; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:56:52 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA49224 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:55:32 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA11746 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:55:29 -0800 Received: from ops_svr (ip29.irvine.quik.com [207.38.102.29]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA16702; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 23:54:07 GMT Message-Id: <003801bd2296$a1e2b530$1d6626cf@ops_svr> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:50:41 -0000 Reply-To: "Colin J. Raven" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: hmmm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Mike" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Yup, there's a really easy solution readily available to you called a signature file (otherwise known as a dotsig or .signature) and it's a bit more elegant than twenty header lines. Two methods of accomplishing what (I think) you are looking for: 1. quit pine, and at the command prompt do a: pookie.guts.com$touch .signature pookie.guts.com$chmod 755 .signature pookie.guts.com$pico .signature (this brings up the default text editor and your screen will be blank, because it's a new and empty file you've brought up) at the top, type something like the following: ------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Cross http://www.phatboys.com/ mailto: webmassa@phatboys.com "If you can't convince them, confuse them." -Harry S Truman ------------------------------------------------------------ Try (please) to limit your dotisg to maybe five lines max if it's feasible (it is in your case) and follow the format shown above. OK, next do a ^O (Ctrl O) and you'll see a "File Name to Write .signature?" hit enter and there will be a couple of brief messages that flash by. Then hit ^X (Ctrl X) which bales you out of pico. OK, now you have a dotsig, now how do you incorporate it into each email you send? simple. Get back into Pine and on the main menu screen hit "S" (Setup) "C" (Configure" and tab down the selections to signature-file. If it reads then leave it alone, if it reads differently, hit "C" (Change value) and type in .signature) then tab down almost to the end of the first section of configurable variables until you see signature-at-bottom and check that by hitting enter or hit the "x" key. Now hit "E" (Exit Configuration) you'll see the message "Commit Changes ("Yes" replaces settings, "No" abandons changes)? and hit enter or "y" for yes to commit the changes you have made. Now hit "C" for compose, and voila, there will be a .dotsig which will remain at the bottom of each email you send until you decide to ever change it or delete it. I gave you the "real" way to create a dotsig, although Pine will do it for you if you go to setup/configuration/signature which is a bad way of learning anything about Unix. Follow this method, and you've learned several things....how to create a file from scratch, change it's permissions (never mind too much about that for now but it's there anyway) and open it, edit it, save the changes, and make it work within your email environment. Hope this answers your question, and if so, we expect you to post to the list using your new dotisg!!!!! Don't worry if it's goofy to begin with, just about everyone has a goofy dotsig in the beginning. You'll change it as time goes by, everyone does. Good Luck! -Colin -------------------------------------------- Colin J. Raven Network & Systems Administration. HDS Lab, Inc. Costa Mesa CA | Harrison NY cjraven@quik.com "Communications at the Speed of Life" -----Original Message----- From: Mike To: Pine Discussion Forum Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 10:09 PM Subject: hmmm >Ok, now its starting to get interesting. How can I make it show the >customized headers to the recipient? This is what I have done: > >The first thing that I did was play with the custom headers. Then I turned on >the full headers option (CTRL+R) and there they were. However, when I went >back in, I saw that there were also default headers. I tried changing it to >let me adjust the "From" header, and it told me I couldnt do that. Then I put >in the regular headers and the custom ones from below. Yeah. Well, once I >had saved those changes I went again to compose another letter. However, only >the regular headers were there. This wasnt cool. What was going on? So I >changed the custom ones back to their own respective custom area in the >settings, and did a full header command again, and filled them in and sent it. >Aggh! This time, it sent fine, and I mailed it to myself. Aw, this is just >great. It doesnt show the custom headers unless I have the full header >command on! Is there anyway to force Pine to show those headers that I want >it to see? Say I want my friends to see my website. I want a header to say: > >Website: http://www.foo.com/ > >It only shows up in full header display. Aw pooh, I was hoping to sneak that >one in. It's getting interesting, although it's kinda a tease. Boo. Can >anyone help? Thanks in advance. > >______________________________________________________________ > webmassa@phatboys.com * Mike Cross * Minister of Propaganda > "If you can't convince them, confuse them." -Harry S Truman > Mundus vult decipi, ergo decepiatur. Frontis nulla fides. >-------------------------------------------------------------- > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:03:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA22227 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:03:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA16166; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:03:10 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA35850; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:59:45 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA34320 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:58:01 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA21096 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:57:58 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA25678 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:56:43 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:56:43 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Robin is good. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Christopher Hicks >Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:02:28 -0500 (EST) >On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Everett, Marty expoused about Robin: >>I fail to understand you purpose in life. If you can not be helpful then >>just shut up because this trash is not constructive. >Some of us appreciate Robin's wit. What's with the Subject? Robin is not good. If Robin were good, he wouldn't be any fun. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:08:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA22320 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:08:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA24145; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:08:54 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA28396; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:06:14 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA44116 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:04:27 -0800 Received: from sakaki.communique.net (sakaki.communique.net [204.27.65.7]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA12624 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:04:25 -0800 Received: from nodon.communique.net (ppp-204-27-123-196.co.communique.net [204.27.123.196]) by sakaki.communique.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA24135 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:04:20 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <005901bd22db$1ddac260$c8a3070a@nodon.communique.net> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:01:51 -0600 Reply-To: "Don Allaire" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Don Allaire" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Public apology to Robin and Colin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear listmember: I would like to apologize for sending my unprovoked attacks yesterday and the day prior to Robin and Colin for flaming the newbie. I said things about them that were unwarrented and definately not appropriate. I don't personally know either one of them, and I made unjustified statements about them. I also sent those messages to the group without a valid return address, and that was most rude. If you were irritated by the post from Speaking Freely, that was me. I am sending personal apologies to both of those gentleman immediately. Sometimes, even people who have been on the net for a while act inappropriately and I certainly did. I know that I will attract some flames for revealing myself, and I deserve them. Please direct them to me personally, as I don't want to further impact the list. I am sorry, Don Allaire. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:19:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA22579 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:19:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA16554; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:19:33 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA29311; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:16:14 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA37680 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:13:48 -0800 Received: from sakaki.communique.net (sakaki.communique.net [204.27.65.7]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA22676 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:13:47 -0800 Received: from nodon.communique.net (ppp-204-27-123-196.co.communique.net [204.27.123.196]) by sakaki.communique.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA25632 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:13:42 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <008601bd22dc$6cbb36c0$c8a3070a@nodon.communique.net> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:11:13 -0600 Reply-To: "Don Allaire" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Don Allaire" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: I couldn't send to Robin's email address, so posting here. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Robin: I don't know you, and I have enjoyed your humor on the list for the past 4 months or so. I had no bad intentions toward yourself or colin when I placed the posts to the pine-info group. After doing so, and driving home the long drive that I do, I started rethinking my actions, and realized that I was completely wrong in my postings. I would like you to know that I actually appreciate people like yourself who try to prevent ego maniacs like bill gateus of Borg from trying to take over the computing planet. I work at a larger US Corporation, and I have steered them away from NT for their Internet functions, and use FreeBSD exclusively in that area. I actually am well versed in Netiquette, as I owned an ISP with 3000+ members, and we had to give them talks about this frequently. I never intended to even respond to you, until I read the last line of your post back to me when I responded about Colin flaming Jennifer, the part about PC is dead and buried. When you read something, and you write something back in the heat of the moment, especially over email, it is easier to be a complete butt head than when speaking to a person directly. I lost my composure and I apologize for doing so in a public forum. My comments were far from accurate toward you. It just seemed that lately, the list has had more and more unfriendly responses. As you noted, this is directly correlated to the increase of rude and inappropriate messages to the group. I am far from a saint, and I again apologize for acting like I was. I do hope that you find it within yourself to understand and forgive my harsh words. Sincerely, Don Allaire....no longer Speaking Freely. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:11:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA23792 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:11:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA17808; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:11:37 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA08746; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:07:27 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA24506 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:06:07 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA20210 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:06:03 -0800 Received: from mail-ethernet-syd01.syd.net.au (root@mail-ethernet-syd01.syd.net.au [203.35.74.102]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA25391 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:05:58 -0800 Received: from mail-ethernet-syd01.syd.net.au (johnhe@mail-ethernet-syd01.syd.net.au [203.35.74.102]) by mail-ethernet-syd01.syd.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA06914 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 12:07:02 +1100 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 12:07:01 +1100 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: John Heenan To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Using Pine with messages sent in http MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi I get email sent to me written in http. To read it I save the file attachments and then read the message surrounded by http. I couldn't find a way of setting up mime types to cater for this. Is there a quick way to instruct the Pine viewer to display messages it does not know how to deal with, or is there a way to instruct pine to use another viewer on command, like lynx? Regards John Heenan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:12:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA23772 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:12:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA25510; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:12:53 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA03338; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:09:38 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA41604 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:07:58 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA18810 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:07:57 -0800 Received: from mail-ethernet-syd01.syd.net.au (root@mail-ethernet-syd01.syd.net.au [203.35.74.102]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA17737 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:07:53 -0800 Received: from mail-ethernet-syd01.syd.net.au (johnhe@mail-ethernet-syd01.syd.net.au [203.35.74.102]) by mail-ethernet-syd01.syd.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA06921 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 12:08:45 +1100 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 12:08:45 +1100 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: John Heenan To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using Pine with messages sent in http In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Forgot to mention I use Pine on Linux. On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, John Heenan wrote: > Hi > > I get email sent to me written in http. To read it I save the file > attachments and then read the message surrounded by http. I couldn't find > a way of setting up mime types to cater for this. > > Is there a quick way to instruct the Pine viewer to display messages it > does not know how to deal with, or is there a way to instruct pine to use > another viewer on command, like lynx? > > Regards > > John Heenan > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:25:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA24031 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:25:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA18051; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:24:59 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA44174; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:20:17 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA19196 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:19:07 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA19898 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:19:01 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA08872; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:19:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:17:31 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using Pine with messages sent in http In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: John Heenan X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN It's seemed to me that one could pipe it through lynx (that only works for un*x systems, though). But my computer has been loathe to do that. However, that was my old one, my new one seems to handle viewers and such much better. Maybe I should try it again. (better hardware, more current version of linux and pine, etc) anyway, said commands would be V(iew)(highlight the appropriate attatchment) | lynx oh, and you have to set that in the configuration. I don't know if this will work, though. it just should theoretically Vinnie On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, John Heenan wrote: > Hi > > I get email sent to me written in http. To read it I save the file > attachments and then read the message surrounded by http. I couldn't find > a way of setting up mime types to cater for this. > > Is there a quick way to instruct the Pine viewer to display messages it > does not know how to deal with, or is there a way to instruct pine to use > another viewer on command, like lynx? > > Regards > > John Heenan > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:03:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA24484 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:03:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA26334; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:03:19 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA12450; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:00:28 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA31026 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:59:17 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id RAA32109 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:59:15 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 17 Jan 98 02:58:52 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA20449 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 03:33:47 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 03:33:46 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: HELP!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <008601bd22dc$6cbb36c0$c8a3070a@nodon.communique.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Folks, Don and Jennifer have been abducted by aliens! They were good people and deserve better than be replaced by soulless clones. Is there anything I can do to bring them back, please? Maybe something that will also make pine filter mail, do threads, yank properly, and forge my from: line - and fix my hdd? It'd be pretty cool if it would also get me some Coke, pizza and cigarettes... TIA, Robin -- .signature: I/O error My hdd is forging my forged from: line -> robin@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:05:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA24561 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:05:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA26376; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:05:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA06619; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:02:19 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA12354 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:59:19 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id RAA22967 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:59:17 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 17 Jan 98 02:58:53 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA20482; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 03:56:00 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 03:56:00 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: hmmm In-Reply-To: <003801bd2296$a1e2b530$1d6626cf@ops_svr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Colin J. Raven" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Colin J. Raven wrote: > Yup, there's a really easy solution readily available to you called a > signature file (otherwise known as a dotsig or .signature) and it's a bit > more elegant than twenty header lines. No, Colin, it isn't. I'm too tired to check the son-of-rfc-1632 or something, stuff like urls goes in the header. > Two methods of accomplishing what (I think) you are looking for: 1. quit > pine, and at the command prompt do a: pookie.guts.com$touch .signature pookie.guts.com? Cute. But why on earth would you touch a sigfile and... > pookie.guts.com$chmod 755 .signature make it executable??? and then > pookie.guts.com$pico .signature use this abomination called pico to edit that file, instead of simply using the sigfile option available on the M(ain) screen? > --------------------------------------------------- Mike Cross > http://www.phatboys.com/ > mailto: webmassa@phatboys.com > "If you can't convince them, confuse them." -Harry S Truman Unless your hdd is broken, you don't need the email in there - it's in your from: line. The URL could use standard format, too: to make it clickable. Pine doesn't do that, btw. *sigh* [snipped really interesting things I didn't read] > Follow this method, and you've learned several things.... Colin? You have just taught the young man how to do about everything feasible wrong. But that's ok, because this is not gnu.emacs.gnus, but the pine discussion forum, and the only reason we're here is because we are nice chaps that enjoy a good laugh once in a while. Technical problems do not really belong here... > Hope this answers your question, and if so, we expect you to post to the > list using your new dotisg!!!!! Don't worry if it's goofy to begin with, > just about everyone has a goofy dotsig in the beginning. You'll change it > as time goes by, everyone does. Yeah... Some people have really cool stuff to change their signatures: ;;* Use random signatures in message-mode ;; written by Matt Simmons (require 'random-sig) (setq random-signature-head (expand-file-name "~/.sigfiles/HEAD")) (setq random-signature-dir (expand-file-name "~/.sigfiles")) (setq message-signature 'random-signature-fun) I wish things were as easy as that with pine. robin@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de -- .signature: I/O error *nrglflmpblymenshrrsn* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:53:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA24968 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:53:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA19424; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:53:45 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA09547; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:51:08 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA34582 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:49:50 -0800 Received: from mail-ethernet-syd01.syd.net.au (mail-ethernet-syd01.syd.net.au [203.35.74.102]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA02626 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:49:48 -0800 Received: from mail-ethernet-syd01.syd.net.au (johnhe@mail-ethernet-syd01.syd.net.au [203.35.74.102]) by mail-ethernet-syd01.syd.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA08459; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:50:36 +1100 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:50:36 +1100 (EST) Reply-To: John Heenan Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: John Heenan To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using Pine with messages sent in http In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Drachen X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum , Admin for Sydnet X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thanks for your reply Vinnie. I have been able to add an /etc/mailcap entry for text/HTML to enable HTML to be shown. Part of my original problem was that text/plain was not even being displayed. This problem has been fixed up also. It appears http emailers also send a plain version of http. An /etc/mailcap entry that worked for me is text/HTML; lynx -force_html -dump %s; copiousoutput With regard to piping the output to Lynx, I don't think there is a way within Lynx for it to accept a html file to be proceesed from standard input. However piping the output to a script could set up a file for lynx to read from and then send output to standard output for the viewer. John On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Drachen wrote: > > It's seemed to me that one could pipe it through lynx (that only works for > un*x systems, though). But my computer has been loathe to do that. > > However, that was my old one, my new one seems to handle viewers and such > much better. Maybe I should try it again. (better hardware, more current > version of linux and pine, etc) > > anyway, said commands would be V(iew)(highlight the appropriate > attatchment) | lynx > > oh, and you have to set that in the configuration. > > I don't know if this will work, though. it just should theoretically > > Vinnie > > On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, John Heenan wrote: > > > Hi > > > > I get email sent to me written in http. To read it I save the file > > attachments and then read the message surrounded by http. I couldn't find > > a way of setting up mime types to cater for this. > > > > Is there a quick way to instruct the Pine viewer to display messages it > > does not know how to deal with, or is there a way to instruct pine to use > > another viewer on command, like lynx? > > > > Regards > > > > John Heenan > > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:58:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA25024 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:58:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA27014; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:58:54 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA09700; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:55:48 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAB36042 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:54:46 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA26546 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:54:44 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA06422; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:55:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:53:00 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using Pine with messages sent in http In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: John Heenan X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum , Admin for Sydnet X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN hmm. I think you're right..I mean about lynx not reading from standard input. it would (more or less) explain what happens on this machine when I try to pipe it. (nothing explains what happens on the last machine, except perhaps the fact that it was held together by duct tape, bailing wire and velcro) Time to fire up vi and write a script. -force_html looks useful too. I don't know why I havne't seen it before. Vinnie On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, John Heenan wrote: > Thanks for your reply Vinnie. > > I have been able to add an /etc/mailcap entry for text/HTML to enable HTML > to be shown. Part of my original problem was that text/plain was not even > being displayed. This problem has been fixed up also. It appears http > emailers also send a plain version of http. > > An /etc/mailcap entry that worked for me is > text/HTML; lynx -force_html -dump %s; copiousoutput > > With regard to piping the output to Lynx, I don't think there is a way > within Lynx for it to accept a html file to be proceesed from standard > input. However piping the output to a script could set up a file for lynx > to read from and then send output to standard output for the viewer. > > John > > > On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Drachen wrote: > > > > > It's seemed to me that one could pipe it through lynx (that only works for > > un*x systems, though). But my computer has been loathe to do that. > > > > However, that was my old one, my new one seems to handle viewers and such > > much better. Maybe I should try it again. (better hardware, more current > > version of linux and pine, etc) > > > > anyway, said commands would be V(iew)(highlight the appropriate > > attatchment) | lynx > > > > oh, and you have to set that in the configuration. > > > > I don't know if this will work, though. it just should theoretically > > > > Vinnie > > > > On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, John Heenan wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > I get email sent to me written in http. To read it I save the file > > > attachments and then read the message surrounded by http. I couldn't find > > > a way of setting up mime types to cater for this. > > > > > > Is there a quick way to instruct the Pine viewer to display messages it > > > does not know how to deal with, or is there a way to instruct pine to use > > > another viewer on command, like lynx? > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > John Heenan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:29:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA25337 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:29:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA27359; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:29:44 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA11222; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:26:37 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA44174 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:25:31 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA29607 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:25:29 -0800 Received: from ops_svr (ip29.irvine.quik.com [207.38.102.29]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA43310; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 03:24:09 GMT Message-Id: <001701bd22b4$9e0e0ae0$1d6626cf@ops_svr> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:26:02 -0800 Reply-To: "Colin J. Raven" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: hmmm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Robin S. Socha" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Robin, as I understood his question (please excuse the assumption, I know it can be dangerous) It appeared as though he wanted to display a URL in each email message, ergo a decent use of a dotsig. Headers are rarely understood by the average user, but if there was a different purpose, then I stand corrected and stand down on this issue. -Colin -----Original Message----- From: Robin S. Socha To: Pine Discussion Forum Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 6:05 PM Subject: Re: hmmm >On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Colin J. Raven wrote: > >> Yup, there's a really easy solution readily available to you called a >> signature file (otherwise known as a dotsig or .signature) and it's a bit >> more elegant than twenty header lines. > >No, Colin, it isn't. I'm too tired to check the son-of-rfc-1632 or >something, stuff like urls goes in the header. > >> Two methods of accomplishing what (I think) you are looking for: 1. quit >> pine, and at the command prompt do a: pookie.guts.com$touch .signature > >pookie.guts.com? Cute. But why on earth would you touch a sigfile and... > >> pookie.guts.com$chmod 755 .signature > >make it executable??? and then > >> pookie.guts.com$pico .signature > >use this abomination called pico to edit that file, instead of simply using >the sigfile option available on the M(ain) screen? > >> --------------------------------------------------- >Colin? Back in the days when XEmacs roamed my harddrive, I had this: > >;;* This one takes care of fucked-up signatures >(setq gnus-signature-separator > '("-- *$" ; The standard > "^-- *$" ; A common mangling > "^-------*$" ; Many people just use a looong > ; line of dashes. Shame! > "^ *--------*$" ; Double-shame! > "^________*$" ; Underscores are also popular > "^========*$")) ; Pervert! > >That's "-- " and nothing else? dash dash blank. Some programs use this >separator to do fancy stuff with signatures. Pine doesn't, btw. Some >programs put sigdashes in automagically. Pine doesn't. Why me? Why my >XEmacs? Why not pine? I want my Gnus back... *sniff* > >> Mike Cross >> http://www.phatboys.com/ >> mailto: webmassa@phatboys.com >> "If you can't convince them, confuse them." -Harry S Truman > >Unless your hdd is broken, you don't need the email in there - it's in your >from: line. The URL could use standard format, too: >to make it clickable. Pine doesn't do that, btw. *sigh* > >[snipped really interesting things I didn't read] >> Follow this method, and you've learned several things.... > >Colin? You have just taught the young man how to do about everything >feasible wrong. But that's ok, because this is not gnu.emacs.gnus, but the >pine discussion forum, and the only reason we're here is because we are nice >chaps that enjoy a good laugh once in a while. Technical problems do not >really belong here... > >> Hope this answers your question, and if so, we expect you to post to the >> list using your new dotisg!!!!! Don't worry if it's goofy to begin with, >> just about everyone has a goofy dotsig in the beginning. You'll change it >> as time goes by, everyone does. > >Yeah... Some people have really cool stuff to change their signatures: > >;;* Use random signatures in message-mode >;; written by Matt Simmons >(require 'random-sig) >(setq random-signature-head (expand-file-name "~/.sigfiles/HEAD")) >(setq random-signature-dir (expand-file-name "~/.sigfiles")) >(setq message-signature 'random-signature-fun) > >I wish things were as easy as that with pine. > >robin@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de > >-- >.signature: I/O error >*nrglflmpblymenshrrsn* > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:51:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA25494 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:51:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA27634; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:51:05 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA47552; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:47:37 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA19152 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:46:27 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA29392 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:46:25 -0800 Received: from ops_svr (ip29.irvine.quik.com [207.38.102.29]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA32752; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 03:45:04 GMT Message-Id: <004e01bd22b7$8a219c60$1d6626cf@ops_svr> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:46:24 -0800 Reply-To: "Colin J. Raven" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Public apology to Robin and Colin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Don Allaire" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Fellow List Members, I am pleased and delighted to welcome Don back...if I recall correctly, (I may be wrong here) but I believe he's a prolific and knowledgeable contributor to the Redhat list. This gentleman has class and courage to post an apology to a worldwide list, and I encourage everyone to pause and give this action he took some careful and (sober) thought. As he stated, he has indeed sent me a personal email, and I am publicly stating that I received it in good faith, and responded in an honorable fashion by way of acceptance. I personally hope that if I ever do someone a real (or perceived) injustice, I will have the humility and courage to take an honorable course of action such as this, especially in light of the fact that he could have appeared on the list under his own personna and no one would ever have known he was the one who took a couple of us to task. Now perhaps we can get back to Pine, and toasting the occasional individual who darkens our doorway with Microsoft or Armadillo pest control requests??? Hey Don.....welcome! -Colin -----Original Message----- From: Don Allaire To: Pine Discussion Forum Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 4:12 PM Subject: Public apology to Robin and Colin >Dear listmember: > >I would like to apologize for sending my unprovoked attacks yesterday and >the day prior to Robin and Colin for flaming the newbie. > >I said things about them that were unwarrented and definately not >appropriate. I don't personally know either one of them, and I made >unjustified statements about them. > >I also sent those messages to the group without a valid return address, and >that was most rude. If you were irritated by the post from Speaking Freely, >that was me. > >I am sending personal apologies to both of those gentleman immediately. > >Sometimes, even people who have been on the net for a while act >inappropriately and I certainly did. I know that I will attract some flames >for revealing myself, and I deserve them. Please direct them to me >personally, as I don't want to further impact the list. > >I am sorry, > >Don Allaire. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 20:38:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA25942 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 20:38:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA28205; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 20:38:48 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA46612; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 20:35:38 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA30824 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 20:33:45 -0800 Received: from yakko.chicks.net (chicks@yakko.chicks.net [205.166.143.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA03396 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 20:33:43 -0800 Received: from localhost (chicks@localhost) by yakko.chicks.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA18882; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 23:33:40 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 23:33:40 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Christopher Hicks To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Robin is good. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum , "Adam H. Kerman" X-Authentication-Warning: yakko.chicks.net: chicks owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > What's with the Subject? Robin is not good. If Robin were good, he > wouldn't be any fun. Touche. Robin is the baddest. 63.Thou shalt not employ cheese as a means of sexual arousal. -http://www.mindworkshop.com/alchemy/command.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 21:07:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA26193 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 21:07:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA28540; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 21:07:33 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA16801; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 21:04:33 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA29288 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 21:02:43 -0800 Received: from mole.slip.net (mole.slip.net [207.171.193.16]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id VAA04834 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 21:02:41 -0800 Received: from slip-3.slip.net [207.171.193.17] (batchman) by mole.slip.net with smtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 0xtQP0-0007N9-00; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 21:02:38 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 21:02:38 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shoeless in San Jose To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using Pine with messages sent in http In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: batchman@slip-3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, John Heenan wrote: > Thanks for your reply Vinnie. > > I have been able to add an /etc/mailcap entry for text/HTML to > enable HTML to be shown. Part of my original problem was that > text/plain was not even being displayed. This problem has been > fixed up also. It appears http emailers also send a plain version of > http. Usually. I've seen one lately that didn't. Since I hadn't gotten this set up till now, thanks to you folks, I'd just skip it. > An /etc/mailcap entry that worked for me is > text/HTML; lynx -force_html -dump %s; copiousoutput This is what got it working. I tried the script below; it would display the message which was unreadable otherwise (unless I saved and viewed the file), but it still contained all the HTML tags. The one above works; the one below didn't quite cut it: text/html;lynx -force_html %s;test=test -n "$LYNX_VERSION" text/html; shownonascii iso-8859-1 %s; copiousoutput text/html; shownonascii iso-8859-8 %s; copiousoutput text/html; shownonascii iso-8859-7 %s; copiousoutput > With regard to piping the output to Lynx, I don't think there is a > way within Lynx for it to accept a html file to be proceesed from > standard input. However piping the output to a script could set up > a file for lynx to read from and then send output to standard output > for the viewer. I tried piping it through Lynx which was suggested earlier. I was using the four-line script above (haven't tried it with the new one-liner, but it's more work to do that anyway), and it just locked up. Couldn't suspend the job; could only cut the connection and re-logon, so I think I'll stick with the one-liner. That fixed the problem. Greg batchman@slip.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 22:15:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA26745 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 22:15:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA21749; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 22:15:42 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA25963; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 22:11:16 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA13686 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 22:09:55 -0800 Received: from ganga.mnrec.ernet.in (sangam.mnrec.ernet.in [202.141.55.4]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA07606 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 22:01:06 -0800 Received: from localhost (sapan@localhost) by ganga.mnrec.ernet.in (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA04067 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:23:18 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:23:18 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Sapan Goel To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: help on .forward MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: sending messges to pine mailing list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello all technical masters, I am facing problem while forwarding my mails to some executable program. I want to develop the filter and for that i need to forward all the incoming mails to some executable program. For this i had written the line |"/home/sapan/a.out" in my .forward file.... where a.out is the executable program.. Although it is forwarding the mails to the program but the returned mail is also generated specifying that unknown mailer error and cann't forward mail to /home/sapan/a.out@localhost Thanks, ****************************************************************************** SAPAN GOEL \\\|||/// FINAL YEAR B.E. COMPUTER SCIENCE ========= MOTILAL NEHRU REGIONAL ENGG. COLLEGE - | O O | / \ \ @'/ #55,MALVIYA HOSTEL. # _| |_ M.N.R.E.C. (#) ( ) ( ) ALLAHABAD. #\//|* *|\\ UTTARPRADESH. #\/( * )/ INDIA. # ===== PIN-211004. # (\|/) # || || E-MAIL: sapan@ganga.mnrec.ernet.in #.--'| |---. #'---' ----' ****************************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:20:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA27735 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:20:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA23206; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:20:43 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id AAA24189; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:15:54 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA35426 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:13:35 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA11675 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:13:34 -0800 Received: from md2.vsnl.net.in (md2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.6.20]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id AAA23074 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:13:29 -0800 Received: by md2.vsnl.net.in; id AA07843; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:48:50 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:48:50 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: SAROJA SREENIVASAN To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: unable to send mesage. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Sir, I tried to send mail to my brother (bala@integra.net & bala@2way.net).But the computer displays the message that it is unable to send to that address.Please help. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 02:49:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA30024 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 02:49:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA25673; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 02:49:15 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA03618; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 02:44:02 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA19174 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 02:42:07 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id CAA16050 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 02:42:05 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 17 Jan 98 11:41:42 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA05905; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 12:38:53 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 12:38:50 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help on .forward In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Sapan Goel X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, Sapan Goel wrote: > I am facing problem while forwarding my mails to some executable program. > I want to develop the filter and for that i need to forward all the > incoming mails to some executable program. For this i had written the line > |"/home/sapan/a.out" in my .forward file.... where a.out is the > |executable program.. Why arent't you using procmail right away, Sapan? Its language provides for exactly these tasks. Take a look at Nancy McGough's mail filtering faq. BTW, your signature is way too large. Cheers, Robin -- hdd broken - remove sushi in from line :-( From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 02:51:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA30067 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 02:51:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA03413; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 02:51:32 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA03679; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 02:47:04 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA43086 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 02:45:19 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id CAA07687 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 02:45:18 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 17 Jan 98 11:44:55 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA05915; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 12:42:14 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 12:42:14 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: unable to send mesage. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: SAROJA SREENIVASAN X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, SAROJA SREENIVASAN wrote: > I tried to send mail to my brother (bala@integra.net & bala@2way.net).But > the computer displays the message that it is unable to send to that > address. Have you asked your brother that the accounts are still valid? If so, his server might be down for maintenance or something similar. HTH, Robin -- .signature I/O error From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 04:52:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA32271 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 04:52:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA05657; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 04:52:32 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA05389; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 04:47:42 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA40300 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 04:45:48 -0800 Received: from ciup1.ncc.up.pt (ciup1.ncc.up.pt [193.136.51.52]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA24893 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 04:45:46 -0800 Received: from garf.fe.up.pt (garfield.fe.up.pt [193.136.28.16]) by ciup1.ncc.up.pt (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA17500 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 04:50:31 GMT Received: from tom.fe.up.pt by garf.fe.up.pt with SMTP id AA23193 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Sat, 17 Jan 1998 12:46:17 GMT Received: from localhost by tom.fe.up.pt; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/13Jan98-0321PM) id AA07670; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 12:45:34 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 12:45:34 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: biscoito To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Reply without read the mesage.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello! I have a little problem here.... My problem is how can I get a copy of my news mail - without read it - to another account? There is any possibility to do it? It is like a automaticaly forward, but Pine keeps a copy in my pine's account.... Please reply to biscoito@bigfoot.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 05:49:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA00307 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 05:49:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA06549; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 05:49:04 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA29440; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 05:44:34 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA14364 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 05:43:29 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id FAA21918 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 05:43:26 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 17 Jan 98 14:43:03 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA06169; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 15:39:54 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 15:39:54 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: hmmm In-Reply-To: <001701bd22b4$9e0e0ae0$1d6626cf@ops_svr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Colin J. Raven" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Colin J. Raven wrote: > Robin, as I understood his question (please excuse the assumption, I know it > can be dangerous) It appeared as though he wanted to display a URL in each > email message, ergo a decent use of a dotsig. Sure, but your format was not the best. > Headers are rarely understood by the average user, but if there was a > different purpose, then I stand corrected and stand down on this issue. No, but... }:-> Make it look like this: -- Robin S. Socha SC CRIS I/O error is what an hdd says when it dies... I guess that's the accepted format. And make sure it's "-- ", not "--". Anyway, this is only hypothetical here, because UPS failed to deliver in time and I'll be stuck with this system till Monday. Robin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 07:33:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA01294 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 07:33:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA08137; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 07:33:43 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA09225; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 07:28:57 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA29398 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 07:26:02 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id HAA24476 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 07:26:00 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 17 Jan 98 16:25:32 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA06386; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:41:36 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:41:36 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Reply without read the mesage.... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: biscoito X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, biscoito wrote: > My problem is how can I get a copy of my new mail - without read it - to > another account? There is any possibility to do it? It is like a > automatically forward, but Pine keeps a copy in my pine's account.... You will need a filtering system for that. You didn't state under which OS you're running pine, but let's presume that you're using some flavour of u*ix. The first step is to grab a copy of Nancy McGough's filtering mail faq, the address of which I don't have right now because it was eaten by an I/O error. It's in the pine FAQ, though, which you will want to read, anyway. Then you decide on which filter you want to use (probably procmail) and if it is installed on your system. Then you go about reading the procmail man page by saying "man procmail" and "man procmailex". Basically, all you need is a simple .procmailrc as described in procmailex. Good luck, Robin -- no sig - no fun robin@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 07:52:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA01469 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 07:52:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA00898; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 07:52:08 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA10160; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 07:46:22 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA40442 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 07:44:18 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA15137 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 07:44:18 -0800 Received: from umd5.umd.edu (umd5.umd.edu [128.8.10.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA08276 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 07:44:15 -0800 Received: from marple.umd.edu (marple.umd.edu [128.8.10.50]) by umd5.umd.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA29202 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 10:44:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (dmwehage@localhost) by marple.umd.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA27094 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 10:44:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 10:44:12 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Wehage - Diana M." To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: email overload MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Authentication-Warning: marple.umd.edu: dmwehage owned process doing -bs X-Sender: dmwehage@marple.umd.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN My University of MD. email account is having problems. I have too many messages, but I'm trying to delete them and it doesn't work. The message says that there is a system's error and I need to press s for Shell to clean it up but it will not delete my messages. Could you please advise me and explain what I'm doing wrong. I'm not sure I will get your message. I have an account with Baltimore County Puclic Library in Maryland. Diana Wehage From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:14:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA01686 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:14:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA01259; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:14:32 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA10929; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:09:27 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA46842 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:07:41 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id IAA16033 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:07:40 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 17 Jan 98 17:07:17 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA06932; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 18:04:30 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 18:04:27 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: email overload In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Wehage - Diana M." X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, Wehage - Diana M. wrote: > My University of MD. email account is having problems. I have too many > messages, but I'm trying to delete them and it doesn't work. The message > says that there is a system's error and I need to press s for Shell to > clean it up but it will not delete my messages. Could you please advise me > and explain what I'm doing wrong. I'm not sure I will get your message. I > have an account with Baltimore County Puclic Library in Maryland. Hi, Diana, you're having a quota problem. You should discuss that with your local help desk. I've never seen your error message, but have you made sure that you're only running one instance of pine? That could be another problem, because running multiple instances of pine will render all of them read only. Robin -- remove sushi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:21:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA01726 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:21:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA01378; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:21:37 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA10826; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:05:54 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA30832 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:04:10 -0800 Received: from cyberport.cyberportal.net (mikec@cyberport.cyberportal.net [204.97.234.4]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA26622 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:04:08 -0800 Received: from localhost (mikec@localhost) by cyberport.cyberportal.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA02562 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:04:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:04:01 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: Mike Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: hmmmmmm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ok, well, I've tried quite a few things now. I can get the stupid mail clients like Netscape et al to show the new headers, if it is set to show full headers. Pine obviously does the same thing. Bummer. Ok, now in a fit of rage last night, this is what I tried. I type in, telnet mail 25. Then I do the helo, mail from, rcpt to, and data. When I get to data, I put in my own headers. Blah. does this sound right so far? Well, then I go "." and send. I get the mail, same thing. Only shows the defalt headers. What's up with this? Isnt there any way that I can force the headers to show up? I guess not. If I send myself an email from Netscape to Pine, I bet the odds are high enough that I wont see that infamous "Organization" header that Netscape always has to squeeze in. Let me try that... Yup, I was right. So I'm quickly coming to the conclusion that the only way that people are going to see the headers that you want are by leaving the full headers on all the time, and this day and age with so many bounces, forwards, and carbon copies, no one wants to leave those on. I guess that I probably should just give up, huh? ______________________________________________________________ webmassa@phatboys.com * Mike Cross * Minister of Propaganda "If you can't convince them, confuse them." -Harry S Truman Mundus vult decipi, ergo decepiatur. Frontis nulla fides. -------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:36:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA01823 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:36:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA09062; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:36:07 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA11815; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:31:33 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA43120 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:30:29 -0800 Received: from cyberport.cyberportal.net (mikec@cyberport.cyberportal.net [204.97.234.4]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA27039 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:30:27 -0800 Received: from localhost (mikec@localhost) by cyberport.cyberportal.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA04961 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:30:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:30:26 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: Mike Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: hmmmm yet again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ok, I figured my last problem. Only thing that I cant figure out, now that I've decided what just cant be done, is how to change the "from" header... ______________________________________________________________ webmassa@phatboys.com * Mike Cross * Minister of Propaganda "If you can't convince them, confuse them." -Harry S Truman Mundus vult decipi, ergo decepiatur. Frontis nulla fides. -------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:51:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA01913 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:51:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA01845; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:51:10 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA12160; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:46:02 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA26778 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:45:03 -0800 Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA28327 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:44:59 -0800 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (avardy@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA25110 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:14:52 -0330 (NST) Received: (from avardy@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.8/8.8.3) id NAA14543; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:14:52 -0330 (NST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:14:51 -0330 (NST) Reply-To: Andrew Vardy Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Andrew Vardy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: hmmm In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: avardy@plato.ucs.mun.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, Robin S. Socha wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Colin J. Raven wrote: > > > > Mike Cross > > http://www.phatboys.com/ > > mailto: webmassa@phatboys.com > > "If you can't convince them, confuse them." -Harry S Truman > > Unless your hdd is broken, you don't need the email in there - it's in your > from: line. The URL could use standard format, too: > to make it clickable. Pine doesn't do that, btw. *sigh* I don't agree. Here's why a. That standard format looks too codey. I don't like codey looking stuff. b. It's confusing looking. c. More chance that a long URL will not fit on a line. You're just making a longer line. Too many characters. And also, whoever's e-mail progy may wrap lines. How's ya supposed to follow it if it takes TWO lines?! d. Would you expect everyday people to just type in all that, whenever they mention a URL? I expect not. Mike, leave it like you have it. > > [snipped really interesting things I didn't read] > > Follow this method, and you've learned several things.... > > Colin? You have just taught the young man how to do about everything > feasible wrong. But that's ok, because this is not gnu.emacs.gnus, but the > pine discussion forum, and the only reason we're here is because we are nice > chaps that enjoy a good laugh once in a while. Technical problems do not > really belong here... Tech. problems don't belong here. But if you ask non-tech problems, you'll find you don't belong here either. :-) > [...] > (setq message-signature 'random-signature-fun) > > I wish things were as easy as that with pine. > Yeah. So don't worry about sig.'s until people make universal EASY methods to write them, and context sensitive inclusion. BTW, I don't like Sig.'s, take away Kbytes of message space. 2nd BTW, didn't someone just post here saying her e-mail program shut down, now inoperative, based on file space overflow? If anyone likes Sig.'s, why not write my postmaster from the hostname, or her postmaster. And ask them to increase the general quota. Ok---- here's my Sig. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "If anyone likes Sig.'s, why not write my postmaster from the hostname, or her postmaster. And ask them to increase the general quota." So saith AV, in ano domini 1998, jan. 17. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:35:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA03760 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:35:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA11952; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:34:59 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA11880; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:32:43 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA35338 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:31:15 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA08118 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:31:13 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA01042; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:29:42 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:29:42 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: hmmmm yet again In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Mike >Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:30:26 -0500 (EST) >Only thing that I cant figure out, now that I've decided what just cant be >done, is how to change the "from" header. For the 2,642,423rd time, pine must be compiled with ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM. It's not a user-configurable option. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:50:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA03905 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:50:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA12194; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:49:56 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA19027; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:47:19 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA34382 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:46:13 -0800 Received: from bloodgore.de (rhrz-isdn3-p57.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.225.121]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA07398 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:45:59 -0800 Received: from localhost (robin@localhost) by bloodgore.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA01494; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:41:17 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:41:14 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: hmmm In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Andrew Vardy X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, Andrew Vardy wrote: > On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, Robin S. Socha wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Colin J. Raven wrote: > > Unless your hdd is broken, you don't need the email in there - it's in > > your from: line. The URL could use standard format, too: > > to make it clickable. Pine doesn't do that, > > btw. *sigh* > I don't agree. Here's why > a. That standard format looks too codey. I don't like codey looking > stuff. Andrew, it's standard. I don't care what you think looks codey or not, if you don't stick to standards, you're in great danger. > b. It's confusing looking. Guess you're easily confused. > c. More chance that a long URL will not fit on a line. You're just > making a longer line. No, Andrew, I'm using the accepted standard for a URL. Nothing more, nothing less. > Too many characters. Yes, Andrew. Certainly. > And also, whoever's e-mail progy may wrap lines. How's ya supposed to > follow it if it takes TWO lines?! Andrew, do you know HTML? If not, learn it. > d. Would you expect everyday people to just type in all that, whenever > they mention a URL? I expect not. Andrew, I think you don't understand. But that's ok. We've decided to be nice and gentle. > Mike, leave it like you have it. No, Andrew. [purpose of this list] > Tech. problems don't belong here. But if you ask non-tech problems, > you'll find you don't belong here either. :-) Tech problems do belong here. One of those problems was my broken hdd. BUT... Linux is not Windos, so I had a new running system with 60 minutes. This rocks. > [...] > > (setq message-signature 'random-signature-fun) > > I wish things were as easy as that with pine. > Yeah. So don't worry about sig.'s until people make universal EASY > methods to write them, and context sensitive inclusion. Andrew, it cannot get much easier than with pine, although (HELLO!!!) the sigdashes should be standard when editing the sigfile. > BTW, I don't like Sig.'s, take away Kbytes of message space. Andrew, the miles of stuff you didn't crop in your reply took a lot more. > 2nd BTW, didn't someone just post here saying her e-mail program shut > down, now inoperative, based on file space overflow? Oh dear... Mymy... Well, I certainly could tell Gnus not to save signatures that are PROPERLY (you got me, Andrew?) separated. > If anyone likes Sig.'s, why not write my postmaster from the hostname, or > her postmaster. And ask them to increase the general quota. Excellent. Andrew, you are totally meschugge. > Ok---- here's my Sig. It sucks. Plain and simple. Thanks for your valuable input, Andrew. Next one, please. Robin -- Robin S. Socha CEO German Web Force Proudly running Linux on 500MB *sigh* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:56:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA03952 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:56:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA12269; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:56:49 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA12690; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:54:30 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA12300 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:53:30 -0800 Received: from bloodgore.de (rhrz-isdn3-p57.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.225.121]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA09219 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:53:24 -0800 Received: from localhost (robin@localhost) by bloodgore.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA01567; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:49:05 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:49:04 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: hmmmm yet again In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Adam H. Kerman" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:29:42 -0600 (CST) > From: "Adam H. Kerman" > >From: Mike > >Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:30:26 -0500 (EST) > >Only thing that I cant figure out, now that I've decided what just cant > >be done, is how to change the "from" header. > For the 2,642,423rd time, pine must be compiled with ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM. > It's not a user-configurable option. Ummm... I beg to differ. If everything's working ok here again, this line would do, too: rc.config:FROM_HEADER="franck.pc.uni-koeln.de" I mean, if you can recompile, you're the admin, anyway, right? I have the strong suspicion that Mike is trying to set up a stand-alone system. This is the easiest solution. Cheers, Robin -- .signature abducted by terrorists From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:01:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA30902 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:01:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA14372; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:01:01 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA16979; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:58:26 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA30820 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:57:08 -0800 Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA15639 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:55:35 -0800 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (avardy@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA30998; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 18:25:23 -0330 (NST) Received: (from avardy@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.8/8.8.3) id SAA09601; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 18:25:22 -0330 (NST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 18:25:21 -0330 (NST) Reply-To: Andrew Vardy Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Andrew Vardy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: hmmm In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: avardy@plato.ucs.mun.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, Robin S. Socha wrote: > > > your from: line. The URL could use standard format, too: > > > to make it clickable. Pine doesn't do that, > > > btw. *sigh* > > I don't agree. Here's why > > a. That standard format looks too codey. I don't like codey looking > > stuff. > > Andrew, it's standard. I don't care what you think looks codey or not, if > you don't stick to standards, you're in great danger. Interesting, but you haven't followed your own standard before. You have given URLs, not in the above form. Second, a message body does not go by any "standard"! People type in it. Actual human beings. You can type any word you want. It will be included in the message body. (You can type German here too, as evidently you have. Even though this is an English speaking group.) > > > b. It's confusing looking. > > Guess you're easily confused. Hello! Hello! Anybody home? > > > c. More chance that a long URL will not fit on a line. You're just > > making a longer line. > > No, Andrew, I'm using the accepted standard for a URL. Nothing more, nothing > less. Standard, and who uses it? I think you prefer argumentation anyway. Robin prefers disagreeing to agreeing. :-) So you think it's a nice standard to have when 2% of Internet users may use it? > > > And also, whoever's e-mail progy may wrap lines. How's ya supposed to > > follow it if it takes TWO lines?! > > Andrew, do you know HTML? If not, learn it. Don't need to know HTML for an e-mail program. HTML is not considered acceptable in e-mail and on usenet. HTML here is not *standard* usage. Nope. HTML is for the Web. > > > d. Would you expect everyday people to just type in all that, whenever > > they mention a URL? I expect not. > > Andrew, I think you don't understand. But that's ok. We've decided to be > nice and gentle. We?? Why, does Robin have multiple personalities? > Tech problems do belong here. One of those problems was my broken hdd. > BUT... Linux is not Windos, so I had a new running system with 60 minutes. > This rocks. > > > [...] > > > (setq message-signature 'random-signature-fun) > > > I wish things were as easy as that with pine. > > Yeah. So don't worry about sig.'s until people make universal EASY > > methods to write them, and context sensitive inclusion. > > Andrew, it cannot get much easier than with pine, Hello? Hello?? Robin, you are contradicting yourself. Amazing how you can contradict yourself in such a short time. You are most clearly quoted above. > > BTW, I don't like Sig.'s, take away Kbytes of message space. > > Andrew, the miles of stuff you didn't crop in your reply took a lot more. > Whatever "miles" you may be referring to, no one would be able to follow the thread if everything was cropped. > > 2nd BTW, didn't someone just post here saying her e-mail program shut > > down, now inoperative, based on file space overflow? > > Oh dear... Mymy... Well, I certainly could tell Gnus not to save signatures > that are PROPERLY (you got me, Andrew?) separated. My my what? What does Gnus have to do with PINE discussion forum? What does your hd have to do with PINE? My my, did she say she was using Gnus?? Or... Were you planning to send her the installation files for it, and give her in-depth e-mail help on installing it? > > > If anyone likes Sig.'s, why not write my postmaster from the hostname, or > > her postmaster. And ask them to increase the general quota. > > Excellent. Andrew, you are totally meschugge. > Please talk some French or Latin instead. Thank you for your cooperation. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:23:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA05419 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:23:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA14684; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:23:20 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA25038; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:18:45 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA44242 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:17:30 -0800 Received: from bloodgore.de (rhrz-isdn3-p17.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.225.81]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA15217 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:17:08 -0800 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA02747; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 00:12:36 +0100 Message-Id: <19980118001234.09888@bloodgore.uni-bonn.de> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 00:12:34 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: hmmm In-Reply-To: ; from Andrew Vardy on Sat, Jan 17, 1998 at 06:25:21PM -0330 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-To: Andrew Vardy X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Quoting Andrew Vardy (avardy@morgan.ucs.mun.ca): > On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, Robin S. Socha wrote: [standard for typing URLs] > Interesting, but you haven't followed your own standard before. You > have given URLs, not in the above form. Yes, Andrew. Those I put in manually. I'm lazy. > Second, a message body does not go by any "standard"! People type in it. > Actual human beings. You can type any word you want. It will be included > in the message body. (You can type German here too, as evidently you > have. Even though this is an English speaking group.) Indeed, Andrew, indeed. However, I cannot quite follow your logic here. Just because it can be altered by the user, a sigfile has to comply to the same standards as any other part of an email. Think of linewidth, headers and quotation marks, Andrew. [URL standards] > Standard, and who uses it? I think you prefer argumentation anyway. Robin > prefers disagreeing to agreeing. :-) So you think it's a nice standard to > have when 2% of Internet users may use it? I don't care, Andrew. I don't care about what lusers do, and what Microsoft does, and what you think is correct or not. It's the accepted standard, and it's not a standard made by some sadistic morons, but experienced admins and the like. Have you ever wondered if there might be a reason *why* those standards are set? [URLs spanning more than one line] > Don't need to know HTML for an e-mail program. HTML is not considered > acceptable in e-mail and on usenet. HTML here is not *standard* usage. > Nope. HTML is for the Web. Certainly. But some MUAs are aware of URLs, and therefore, you need to comply to the accepted internet standard for typing URLs. Otherwise, those URLs don't work and you might as well not use them at all. > > > d. Would you expect everyday people to just type in all that, whenever > > > they mention a URL? I expect not. > > Andrew, I think you don't understand. But that's ok. We've decided to be > > nice and gentle. > We?? Why, does Robin have multiple personalities? No. At least I'm not aware of any. "We" seems to be the other members of this list. Right, guys? [random sigs and signatures] > > Andrew, it cannot get much easier than with pine, > Hello? Hello?? Robin, you are contradicting yourself. Amazing how you > can contradict yourself in such a short time. No, Andrew. I was talking about how easy Gnus is to heavily customize in contrast to pine. Then I said that creating a signature with pine is easy. Can you understand the difference, Andrew? [bandwidth and diskspace wasted by sigfiles] > Whatever "miles" you may be referring to, no one would be able to follow > the thread if everything was cropped. Certainly, Andrew, certainly. [quota problems by sigfiles] > My my what? What does Gnus have to do with PINE discussion forum? It has features which pine sorely lacks. Since this is a discussion forum, I feel entitled to comment on these shortcomings from time to time, Andrew. Any objections from a technical point of view? [...] > My my, did she say she was using Gnus?? Or... Were you planning to send > her the installation files for it, and give her in-depth e-mail help on > installing it? Like I did with your setup? No, much too time-consuming, Andrew. > > > If anyone likes Sig.'s, why not write my postmaster from the hostname, > > > or her postmaster. And ask them to increase the general quota. > > Excellent. Andrew, you are totally meschugge. > Please talk some French or Latin instead. What's objectionable about Yiddish, Andrew? And I'm not quite sure if your knowledge of Latin would suffice here... > Thank you for your cooperation. You're most welcome. Robin -- Receiving file: xemacs-20.3.tar.gz 84% 0 ===================================> 13550239 bytes. ETA: 1:31 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 15:43:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA06069 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 15:43:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA15803; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 15:43:25 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA21832; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 15:40:41 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA34246 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 15:39:27 -0800 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.175]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA19057 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 15:39:24 -0800 Message-Id: <6b26f45.34c1410f@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 18:38:52 EST Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Bobbi42 To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Grant: To help Jeff become a responsible citizen Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Subject: Full Scholarship January17, 1998 Aspen Achievement Academy Financing Aspen Ranch From: Bobbi42@AOL.com To whom it mat concern; We are the Grandparents and guardians of 16 yr. old Jeffrey Dyer . He has lived with us for almost two years. They have been very difficult ones. We have decided that our public school system does not have the ability to help our grandson mature into a espected, mature gentleman. I have since transferred him to Aspen Achievement Academy which is located in Loa, Utah. This wilderness treatment program is committed to guide students and their families toward internalizing principals and developing skillswhich facilitate positive personal growth. This treatment program lasts for about 50 days. After he completes that course on February 18th,he will move on to Aspen Ranch. These facilities are recognized and licensed by the Utah State Board of Education, to operate as a special alternative school designed to effectively reach students at risk. I am hopeful that they will reach Jeff. He is a third year Freshmen and has failed this semester, due to absenteeism. If we do not reach him soon, he will become another one of those drop-outs. 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Between his truancy and his horrible conduct, I realized that I could not help him. The only recourse I had left was to get him some kind of a treatment program. So on December 30th, of last year, he left for Aspen. Achievement Academy. We have exhausted all of our resources, including the money I set aside to pay our property taxes, to place him there. Jeff is very much worth the sacrifice that we are making. He needs to continue his treatment, which means he will move on to Aspen Ranch. This step will further educate him scholastically and emotionally. There just is not enough of our money available to help him. Can you help us by sponsoring him? It would be a wonderful answer to a prayer that is very deeply felt. Thank you for you time and God Bless: Shontsine Dyer 13745 S. King Rd. Lockport IL. 60441 708/301-0062 e-mail Bobbi42@aol.com Aspen Achievement Academy fax # 708/448-5299 P.O. Box 400 Loa, Utah 84747 435/836-2472 Fax: 435/836-2452 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:55:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA03100 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:55:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA16662; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:55:42 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA24627; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:53:08 -0800 Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:53:08 -0800 Resent-Message-Id: <199801180053.QAA24627@lists3.u.washington.edu> Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA46774 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:51:56 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA22417 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:51:55 -0800 Received: from sheerx.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA22209 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:52:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <19980118003627.18996.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:36:26 PST Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Lewis Adrelle" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: e-mail Resent-To: Pine Discussion Forum Content-Type: text/plain Resent-From: Drachen X-To: drachen@eni.net X-Received: from hotmail.com (f160.hotmail.com [207.82.251.39]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA21326 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:37:46 -0800 (PST) X-Received: (qmail 18997 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jan 1998 00:36:27 -0000 X-Received: from 130.250.1.36 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:36:26 PST X-Originating-IP: [130.250.1.36] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN so will you put my banner on your site ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:56:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA06544 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:56:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA09418; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:56:40 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA43226; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:54:21 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA41944 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:52:24 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA07416 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:52:24 -0800 Received: from sheerx.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA21968; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:53:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:54:31 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: e-mail In-Reply-To: <19980118003627.18996.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Lewis Adrelle X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN You didn't read my reply, did you? Vinnie On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, Lewis Adrelle wrote: > so will you put my banner on your site > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 17:51:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA06916 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 17:51:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA17339; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 17:51:32 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA04308; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 17:47:40 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA49246 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 17:46:39 -0800 Received: from mail.utep.edu (rufranco@mail.utep.edu [129.108.1.4]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA24743 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 17:46:37 -0800 Received: from localhost (rufranco@localhost) by mail.utep.edu with SMTP id SAA22360 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 18:46:36 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 18:46:36 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: ruben To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine & sendmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, We are trying to use PINE 3.96 on a box Running AIX 4.2.1. The executable we have was precompiled for AIX at UCLA. PROBLEM: when sending a new message the following message appears: "[Sending mail | 0% |]" and Pine just sites there with the percentage never changing from zero. We end up having to kill the Pine session. NOTE: We are able to send messages with the "mail" and "mailx" commands. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:20:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA07995 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:20:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA19759; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:20:07 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA02256; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:17:38 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA42696 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:15:58 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA01156 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:15:54 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:09:35 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:09:35 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine & sendmail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: ruben X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, ruben wrote: > PROBLEM: when sending a new message the following message appears: > > "[Sending mail | 0% |]" > > and Pine just sites there with the percentage never changing from zero. > We end up having to kill the Pine session. I've seen this at times...forgot the exact conditions. The problem had to do with which options pine was using when it called sendmail. To "workaround" the problem rather than change the options and recompile I simply set: smtp-server = to the fully qualified name of the local host. in my .pinerc file. In the case where you are servicing a large community it would be advisable to put that information in the system wide pinerc file. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:22:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA08034 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:22:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA19779; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:21:59 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA30732; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:19:40 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA42706 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:16:01 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA01160 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:15:58 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:15:49 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:15:48 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: unable to send mesage. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: SAROJA SREENIVASAN X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, SAROJA SREENIVASAN wrote: > I tried to send mail to my brother (bala@integra.net & > bala@2way.net).But the computer displays the message that it is unable to > send to that address.Please help. Not enough information to help too much.... Chances are it is a local problem as these seem to be valid addresses. Can you tell us *exactly* what the error message states? Thanks, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:28:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA08056 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:28:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA19939; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:28:41 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA02669; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:26:17 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA38856 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:24:57 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA00284 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:24:55 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:23:50 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:23:49 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help on .forward In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Sapan Goel X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, Sapan Goel wrote: > I am facing problem while forwarding my mails to some executable program. > I want to develop the filter and for that i need to forward all the > incoming mails to some executable program. > For this i had written the line > |"/home/sapan/a.out" > in my .forward file.... > where a.out is the executable program.. Try: "|/home/sapan/a.out" as the position of the " marks can be significant. If that fails, then try something like: "|exec /home/sapan/a.out" However, be advised that sometimes systems are configured to not allow delivery to "|". You should also worry about possible abuse. If what you want to develop a mail delivery program....then take Robin's suggestion and get procmail. They have already done the job and taken into account most of the worries. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:31:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA08096 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:31:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA20010; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:31:24 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA40334; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:29:23 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA42520 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:27:43 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA15800 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:27:41 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:27:36 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:27:36 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, Robin S. Socha wrote: > Don and Jennifer have been abducted by aliens! They were good people and > deserve better than be replaced by soulless clones. Is there anything I can > do to bring them back, please? Maybe something that will also make pine > filter mail, do threads, yank properly, and forge my from: line - and fix my > hdd? It'd be pretty cool if it would also get me some Coke, pizza and > cigarettes... Sorry, I can only help you with the Coke and pizza. However, I thought about the transit time and decided it was best that I consume those items in your stead and just tell you how they were..... Buuurrrrrp....ahhhhh. Thanks, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 22:10:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA08897 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 22:10:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA14310; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 22:10:44 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA05876; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 22:08:50 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA44270 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 22:07:14 -0800 Received: from md2.vsnl.net.in (md2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.6.20]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id WAA19481 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 22:07:10 -0800 Received: by md2.vsnl.net.in; id AA15950; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:42:19 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:42:19 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: SAROJA SREENIVASAN To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: unable to send mesage. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edward M Greshko X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Sir ,Thankyou very much for a prompt reply.My brother set right everything ok . Now the line is getting corrupted too much. I have to send a single line message by trying atleast 5 to 6 more times. Can you help me ? Regards, Sarojasreenivasan. (URGENT) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 00:46:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA10047 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 00:46:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA23672; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 00:46:54 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id AAA10474; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 00:43:06 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA34410 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 00:41:52 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA11079 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 00:41:51 -0800 Received: from mail.kitsap.lib.wa.us (root@mail.kitsap.lib.wa.us [198.187.135.18]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA16272 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 00:41:48 -0800 Received: from linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us (rareese@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us [198.187.135.22]) by mail.kitsap.lib.wa.us (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA01895 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 01:48:45 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 00:33:27 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Raymond Reese To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: ASCII Transfers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I use TELIX v3.22 to communicate with the Pine System at the Kitsap Regional Library and a I have a serious problem. Apparently, the Pine system, when in the mode to accept hand typed messages, will not accept ASCII transfers. This makes it very difficult to send pre-made messages. Also, from time to time what I am typing gets bounced around to different places on the screen and sometimes overtypes what is already there, including the header, not to mention the characters that occure that I dont type (resembling control codes and the like). Just for the record, this connect has been doing the above mentioned things and my connection rate is at 1200, in spite of trying to connect at 33.6k. When the connection was made, it first showed a rate of 26.4k. Something is wrong and/or confusing. BTW, ASCII Transfers are really very important to me. I am also not very please with the commands that require Control-this and Control-that. I run a BBS on a Commodore and even that computer accepts Cursor keys along with the standard . (dot) or / (slash) codes used in BBSes and wordprocessors. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 02:04:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA11554 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 02:04:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA24559; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 02:04:40 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA37918; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 02:03:02 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA40616 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 02:01:58 -0800 Received: from felix.unife.it (root@felix.unife.it [192.167.208.125]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA26146 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 02:01:57 -0800 Received: from cova.fe.lix (root@cova.fe.lix [192.168.0.2]) by felix.unife.it (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA01301; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:01:52 +0100 Received: from localhost (cova@localhost) by cova.fe.lix (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA01014; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 02:27:46 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 02:27:46 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: Fabio Coatti Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Fabio Coatti To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pgp/pine, take II In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Brian H. Trammell" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: cova@cova.fe.lix X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Brian H. Trammell wrote: > Greetings, > > Thank you for your previous suggestions. However, I am attempting to use > PGP 5.0 with Pine, not 2.6.2. 5.0 has different calling semantics, and I > am having quite a bit of difficulty porting any of the suggested solutions > to PGP 5.0 due to these semantic differences. > > I would like to instead address why pine returns >Problem filtering: > Success<... > > "Success" is not generated by pgps, pgpe, or pgpv (the pgp executables for > pgp 5.0) so it looks like it's added by Pine's filter layer. But if Pine > is returning success, why does it die with "Problem filtering"...I'm > afraid I don't understand. > I modified papp to use pgp5.0 syntax, and I can send it to you, but your problem is related to a bug in libc, I think. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Fabio Coatti 2:332/409.414 Fidonet cova@felix.unife.it Internet http://felix.unife.it/~cova Home page Old SysOps never die... they simply forget their password. ----------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 03:03:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA12417 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 03:03:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA17863; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 03:03:49 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA20716; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 03:02:01 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA49318 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 03:00:08 -0800 Received: from shivax.cac.washington.edu (shivax.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.4]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA12076 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 03:00:07 -0800 Received: (from skramer@localhost) by shivax.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) id DAA15618 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 03:00:06 -0800 Message-Id: <199801181100.DAA15618@shivax.cac.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 03:00:06 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: pine-robot@docserver.cac.washington.edu To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: WHERE TO FIND INFORMATION ABOUT PINE X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is being sent to this mailing list weekly in order to aid readers in finding information about Pine. Before sending questions to the mailing list, please consult these resources: The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive help. Additional information, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, Questions & Answers, where to obtain the Pine software, what tools are available to perform tasks that Pine itself does not, and more, can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form. - The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[] The messages from this mailing list are archived. These archives can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ (includes a searchable index of all archived messages, and information on how to subscribe to this mailing list) - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/pine-info/. - From within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] Please note: the mailing list is no longer mirrored in the comp.mail.pine newsgroup. If you have a question about Pine, chances are it has been asked before and you can find the answer either through the searchable index of past messages, or among the "Questions & Answers" at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/ or ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt If you need personal assistance with using or configuring Pine, contact the technical support staff or computer help desk of YOUR Internet Service Provider, school, university, employer, ... -- whichever organization provided you with the email account on which you are using, or planning on using, Pine. Because system functions and configuration can vary from site to site, they are best qualified to assist you. (Due to the large number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington cannot provide individual support services to Pine users at other organizations.) Sun Jan 18 03:00:06 PST 1998 ----------------------------------- Pine development and support team University of Washington Computing & Communications ----------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 04:24:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA14306 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 04:24:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA19017; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 04:24:02 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA21820; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 04:22:37 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA41080 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 04:21:32 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (root@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA15804 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 04:21:30 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA04422 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 19:47:39 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 19:47:38 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Grant: To help Jeff become a responsible citizen In-Reply-To: <6b26f45.34c1410f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > We are the Grandparents and guardians of 16 yr. old Jeffrey Dyer. . . . > Jeff has experienced Rejection all of his life. . . . Dear Granny, Let's start by teaching young Jeff his first lesson in responsibility: Begging for charity on mailing lists will get you reported for fraud. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 07:35:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA15668 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 07:35:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA20902; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 07:35:04 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA24926; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 07:33:07 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA41068 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 07:32:00 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA21096 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 07:31:54 -0800 Received: from edspc.sngcdc.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 23:31:43 +0800 Message-Id: <34c2205f4767010@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 23:31:45 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ed Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: unable to send mesage. Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: sarojas@md2.vsnl.net.in X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Sir ,Thankyou very much for a prompt reply.My brother set right > everything ok . Now the line is getting corrupted too much. I have to send > a single line message by trying atleast 5 to 6 more times. Can you help me Well, there isn't too much we can do about the line quality of dialups in India. However, this should not be too much of a problem if you have a good modem with the proper error correction features enabled. I also do not know what SW/HW you are using to connect to VSNL. I suggest you contact the helpdesk at VSNL for assitance in problems with your connection. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 09:26:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA16662 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 09:26:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA29375; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 09:26:53 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA21303; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 09:24:18 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA28128 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 09:22:27 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA25016 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 09:22:21 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA02292; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:19:59 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:19:59 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: ASCII Transfers In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Raymond Reese X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Raymond Reese >Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 00:33:27 -0800 (PST) >I use TELIX v3.22 to communicate with the Pine System at the Kitsap >Regional Library and a I have a serious problem. The current version of Telix for DOS is 3.51. >Apparently, the Pine system, when in the mode to accept hand typed >messages, will not accept ASCII transfers. This makes it very difficult to >send pre-made messages. You are attempting this while in the pine composer? There is nothing to configure on the pine end. It can't even be blocked in the system configuration. As far as pine can tell, it is equivalent to accepting input from your keyboard via your terminal emulation. It works on my system. It is possible that you corrupted Telix. Try to install the current version. >Also, from time to time what I am typing gets bounced around to different >places on the screen and sometimes overtypes what is already there, >including the header, not to mention the characters that occure that I >dont type (resembling control codes and the like). What terminal emulation did you choose? Use vt102, and make sure your TERM is set correctly in your shell. >Just for the record, this connect has been doing the above mentioned >things and my connection rate is at 1200, in spite of trying to connect at >33.6k. When the connection was made, it first showed a rate of 26.4k. >Something is wrong and/or confusing. Surely, you know that your connection rate has nothing whatsoever to do with pine. I cannot help you on this mailing list. >BTW, ASCII Transfers are really very important to me. I am also not very >please with the commands that require Control-this and Control-that. I run >a BBS on a Commodore and even that computer accepts Cursor keys along with >the standard . (dot) or / (slash) codes used in BBSes and wordprocessors. What the hell are Cursor keys? If your terminal emulation were set correctly, you could use the Arrow keys, or at your option, the Function keys in lieu of Control key combinations for many tasks. pine can bind the Delete key itself, and you could bind Home or End yourself within the Telix program. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 09:46:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA16764 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 09:46:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA22217; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 09:46:25 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA22617; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 09:44:30 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA13598 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 09:43:13 -0800 Received: from happy.com (happy.com [38.241.225.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA23430 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 09:43:12 -0800 Received: by gateway.happy.com id <14338>; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:42:50 -0500 Message-Id: <98Jan18.124250est.14338@gateway.happy.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:43:27 -0500 Reply-To: SandraB Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: SandraB To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine & sendmail In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum , ruben X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi Ruben, This question has been asked in the past and since my company will eventually upgrade to AIX 4.2 I saved the replies. I haven't tried them but here they are: Reply #1: We fixed the problem by loading the sendmail program from AIX 4.1 in stead of the one included with 4.2 Reply #2: I had the same problem, you can fix trhe problem addinng the next line to the pine.conf.fixed file in /usr/local/lib directory. sendmail-path=/usr/sbin/sendmail -t Have fun, Sandra On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, ruben wrote: > Hi, > We are trying to use PINE 3.96 on a box Running AIX 4.2.1. The > executable we have was precompiled for AIX at UCLA. > > PROBLEM: when sending a new message the following message appears: > > "[Sending mail | 0% |]" > > and Pine just sites there with the percentage never changing from zero. > We end up having to kill the Pine session. > > NOTE: We are able to send messages with the "mail" and "mailx" commands. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:31:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA17610 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:31:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA00862; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:31:33 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA26183; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:28:41 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA17392 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:27:33 -0800 Received: from linus.uhmc.sunysb.edu (colin@linus.uhmc.sunysb.edu [129.49.137.250]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA09146 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:27:32 -0800 Received: from localhost (colin@localhost) by linus.uhmc.sunysb.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA15538; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 14:25:57 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 14:25:56 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Grant: To help Jeff become a responsible citizen In-Reply-To: <6b26f45.34c1410f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bobbi42 X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum , "Colin J. Raven" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN OK, time to weigh in on this, I'm out of cigarettes and this is intolerable. Bobbi, some points for you to bear in mind (not in order of priority) 1. Soliciting charitable donations via mailing lists is considered fraudulent. 2. AOL's TOS (you know what those are, don't you) expressly prohibits what you are presently doing. 3. This is a mailing list devoted exclusively to the use of an email program known as PINE, nothing else...period. So, here's what I am (personally, not purported to be on behalf of this mailing list, University of Washington, or any other member) going to suggest to you in the strongest possible terms. You should pay attention to this, treat it seriously, and act upon it immediately: a) Cease and desist from sending solicitation mail to pine-info@u.washington.edu. b) Upon receipt of this e-mail, reply to all recipients, stating that you have read and understood, and accept the contents, and that you agree not to send further mail to the list. Failure to do both of the above will result in me contacting the TOS at AOL, and having your AOL account suspended. You may care to note that AOL is increasingly concerned about the actions of their membership, and will take action swiftly to prevent you from sending any further solicitation email. I encourage you to do this, because if I personally see another solicitation from you to this list, I will immediately take the action set forth above. Your reply, stating your agreement to the terms is awaited. Regards, Colin. Colin J. Raven colin@linus.uhmc.sunysb.edu cjraven@quik.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 15:16:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA19426 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 15:16:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA25878; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 15:16:30 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA05988; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 15:13:22 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA14586 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 15:11:55 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA12014 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 15:11:52 -0800 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.176]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA25827 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 15:11:49 -0800 Message-Id: <443a1b4a.34c28af8@aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 18:06:30 EST Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: EAckman To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: unwanted mail Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN how cani stop all the mail from these sex sites i dont want them but when i try to e-mail asking them to stop i keep getting a message that say that their return e-mail isnt any good. please help this is becoming very annoying From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 15:41:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA19665 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 15:41:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA26165; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 15:41:50 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA15305; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 15:38:56 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA49224 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 15:37:43 -0800 Received: from bloodgore.splatter.de (root@rhrz-isdn3-p30.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.225.94]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA07856 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 15:37:41 -0800 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.splatter.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA00357; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 01:29:43 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 19 Jan 1998 01:29:43 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: unwanted mail In-Reply-To: EAckman's message of "Sun, 18 Jan 1998 18:06:30 EST" References: <443a1b4a.34c28af8@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: EAckman X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > EAckman writes: > how cani stop all the mail from these sex sites i dont want them but > when i try to e-mail asking them to stop i keep getting a message > that say that their return e-mail isnt any good. please help this is > becoming very annoying Read the filtering mail FAQ by Nancy McGough and install a filter on your system. Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept., Bonn University Stupidity is overwhelmed; Mediocrity struggles with it. Intelligence deals with ease; But genius eliminates it. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:54:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA20221 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:54:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA26931; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:53:57 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA19903; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:52:02 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA24204 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:49:29 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA11473 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:49:27 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA06678; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 18:47:36 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 18:47:36 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: ASCII Transfers In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Raymond Reese X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Raymond Reese >Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 15:14:58 -0800 (PST) >As for you crude comment regarding Cursor keys. If you don't know what the >hell cursor keys are or how to use them in conjunction with bulletin >boards and the like, then I it's obvious what your skill level is. >If you object strongly to what I have said in the foregoing, life is >tough! I have no need for your inane banter. I will no longer request help >in the manner that I did. I'm so glad that you've solved problems on your own, and can afford to insult anyone trying to help. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 20:31:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA22913 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 20:31:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA07556; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 20:31:38 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA29497; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 20:28:29 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA16828 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 20:25:06 -0800 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.174]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA01725 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 20:25:03 -0800 Message-Id: <25217b35.34c2d590@aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 23:24:46 EST Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Bobbi42 To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: unaware of wrong doing Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To whom it may concern: I want you to know that you will not be reading any more letters from me on the internet. I apologize for doing anything wrong. I was completely unaware that what I was doing, was unexceptable behavior. I hope you will except my apology. Thank you Bobbi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 21:36:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA23377 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 21:36:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA08319; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 21:36:46 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA02173; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 21:32:43 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA37888 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 21:30:45 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA05139 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 21:30:45 -0800 Received: from hoflink.com (root@hoflink.com [199.173.65.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA08249 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 21:30:42 -0800 Received: from LOCALNAME (hatlas@[199.173.65.2]) by hoflink.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA14006 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 00:34:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 00:29:16 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: howard atlas To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: IMPORTING INFORMATION INTO ADDRESS BOOK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: U WASHINGTPON X-X-Sender: hatlas@mail.hoflink.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there any way that I can import files with large numbers of e-mail address directly into my address book. What I now do is import the address file into the body of the message. I then mark the address file portion of the message and delete it (mark and CTRL-K). I then go up to the address portion of the message and insert it with (CTRL-U). This works but it would be a lot more convenient if I could get it directly into a distribution list in the address book. Thank you for you assistance in this matter. Howard Atlas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 23:40:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA24424 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 23:40:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA02129; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 23:40:18 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA26252; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 23:38:22 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA32550 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 23:37:10 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA32165 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 23:37:10 -0800 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.174]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA02086; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 23:37:06 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 02:25:43 EST Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Gpfalzbot To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Guitarist Seeking Musicians Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-To: OSIRISMGR@aol.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I'm a guitarist/singer/songwriter/guitar synthesist looking for other musicians to form a band and eventually tour and record CD's with. I have been playing for nearly 25 years in some form of a band or another and am now in my mid 30's. I have a wide range of styles and influences although some of the music I write reflects a heavy fast paced rock style. Some of my recent favorites are STP, Foo Fighters, Soundgarden....I even like a few of the songs off the new Smashmouth album.....you name it. If there is a guitar playing through a Marshall it's my cup of tea. I should mention that I do like most styles of music and my writing suggests a very broad range of styles from Jazz and Swing to the heaviest metal you can imagine. I consider myself pretty versatile. I have quite a collection of necessary equipment including PA and mixer and a studio where I can play 24 hours a day 7 days a week with no neighbor complaints. No more $350.00 a month lockouts. I live in Missouri at present but am considering moving to Nashville or another city that has a good rock and music scene.I've played in bands that have opened for Creedence Clearwater, Three Dog Night, Blood Sweat & Tears, just to name a few and have ties and experiences back to my home state of California with other bands as well. I left the Orange County music scene in 1996 and moved to Missouri since not alot of bands were getting anywhere in the LA scene (you know...the pay to play scene). So I appeal to you at this moment in time to consider starting/joining a fellow musician who is extremely serious about getting somewhere in the music scene. I would like to start off with getting a good solid drummer and bassist and eventually add another guitar player as well as a front man. I have about 20 original songs ready to play as well as an extensive list of cover tunes ranging form 1958 to present. I currently have a manager who takes care of all personel functions of the band (past and present) as well as does all the bookings for the band and other bands as well. (But this band is the main concern!) This leaves the band free to work on music - that's all we will ever have to worry about. As far as upcoming gigs and performances....I (we including you) have several opportunities to play this upcoming year in a number of large outdoor festivals but I sure can't do it without you or the other players. If you are interested in finding out more please send e-mail to this e-mail address: OSIRISMGR@AOL.COM - this is the managers e-mail address. The manager can answer any questions you may have or forward a background on myself to include a resume. I don't spend any more time on the computer than I really have to Thank you for taking time to read this and hopefully you will want to get started on a band that will definately get someplace. Or maybe you will know someone to fit the bill to pass this on to. All help appreciated and may whatever project or band you are in and don't want to leave - succeed. Sincerely, Gary From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 05:00:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA28590 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 05:00:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA05849; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 04:59:59 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA02678; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 04:56:34 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA45786 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 04:53:23 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA09970 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 04:53:22 -0800 Received: from NIH2WAAF (smtp6.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.75]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA05791 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 04:53:20 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:52:48 -0500 Received: from csi.com (md36-140.mun.compuserve.com [195.232.50.140]) by hil-img-ims-4.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.1) with ESMTP id HAA05491 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:52:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <34C34C79.93CD28CB@csi.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:52:10 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Oliver Dawid To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Mail gateway MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: OliverDawid@csi.com X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, I search a mail gateway from mhs (DaVinci) to MS Exchange ?? Is something on the market ? Greetings Oliver Dawid From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:39:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA29575 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA14700; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:39:46 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA05233; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:35:39 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA37110 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:34:50 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA24930 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:34:50 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA20422; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:33:22 GMT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:33:21 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: unaware of wrong doing In-Reply-To: <25217b35.34c2d590@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bobbi42 X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thank you for your cooperation. -Colin > To whom it may concern: > I want you to know that you will not be reading any more letters > from me on the internet. I apologize for doing anything wrong. I was > completely unaware that > what I was doing, was unexceptable behavior. I hope you will except my > apology. > Thank you > Bobbi > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:51:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA29647 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:51:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA07207; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:51:33 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA05679; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:47:08 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA34754 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:45:54 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA22165 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:45:53 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA13468 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:44:29 GMT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:44:29 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Guitarist Seeking Musicians In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Group X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is a discussion forum exclusively dedictaed to the email program known as PINE. Your topic cannot be addressed via this mailing list. Sorry we can't be of help, and Good Luck with your search! -Colin ------------------- Colin J. Raven Network & Systems Administrator HDS Lab, Inc Costa Mesa CA | Harrison NY "Communications at the Speed of Life" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:55:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA29689 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:55:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA14869; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:55:42 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA14952; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:51:33 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA45624 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:50:17 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA25795 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:50:17 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA39316; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:48:47 GMT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:48:47 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Mail gateway In-Reply-To: <34C34C79.93CD28CB@csi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Oliver Dawid X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Could you ask your question a bit more specifically, I for one am not sure precisely what you are really asking. -Colin On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, Oliver Dawid wrote: > Hello, > > I search a mail gateway from mhs (DaVinci) to MS Exchange ?? Is > something on the market ? > > Greetings > > Oliver Dawid > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:03:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA29659 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:03:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA07367; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:03:31 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA05904; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:59:06 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA24414 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:58:45 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA25025 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:58:44 -0800 Received: from mail.compuzone.net ([208.141.58.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id GAA07295 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 06:58:41 -0800 Received: from ED (ED [208.141.58.125]) by mail.compuzone.net (NTMail 3.03.0014/1d.ab55) with ESMTP id na001079 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:57:56 +0000 Received: by ed-mcmurray with Microsoft Mail id <01BD24C0.F9E50AE0@ed-mcmurray>; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:59:48 -0800 Message-Id: <01BD24C0.F9E50AE0@ed-mcmurray> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:59:28 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ed McMurray To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-To: "'pine-info@cac.washington.edu'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have a problem at PhoneFree's homesite and it tells me to get the Application-Stream to correct it. Where do I get this program and what is the D/L file name & size. Thank you, Ed McMurray From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:36:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA29932 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:36:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA15374; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:36:27 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA07471; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:31:42 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA40464 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:30:37 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA27102 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:30:35 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA31602 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:29:11 GMT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:29:11 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: unwanted mail In-Reply-To: <443a1b4a.34c28af8@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Group X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm not gonna touch this one! I s'pose it's no good telling the individual that if you don't visit 'em in the beginning, chances are (these days anyway) you won't get unsolicited mail. Please excuse me fellow list members, I have this great 'pic of Daisy (The cloned sheep) ohhhh, those lips, that wool...er....I have to go to the bathroom...later all -Colin On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, EAckman wrote: > how cani stop all the mail from these sex sites i dont want them but when i > try to e-mail asking them to stop i keep getting a message that say that > their return e-mail isnt any good. please help this is becoming very > annoying > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 08:00:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA30169 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 08:00:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA15730; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 08:00:35 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA16536; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:57:01 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA51662 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:54:36 -0800 Received: from elsevier.be (elsevier.elsevier.be [194.183.224.36]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA28749 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:54:29 -0800 Received: from paul ([194.183.226.251]) by elsevier.be (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 0-36803U300L100S0) with ESMTP id AAA203 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:55:50 -0600 Message-Id: <34C37679.D2A375C0@elsevier.be> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:51:22 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: jc@elsevier.be (Johan Creemers) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: cannot print from filemaker pro MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, My problem is simple : It is impossible to print from filemaker pro 4.0 I've already reinstalled my drivers, I've already changed all my settings to European standards namely A4 papersize but nothing works. There is no problem if I want to print from another application. Is there somebody who knows what could be my problem. Thank you for helping me. Paul De Koker From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 08:06:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA30228 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 08:06:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA08183; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 08:06:06 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA24384; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 08:00:03 -0800 Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 08:00:03 -0800 Resent-Message-Id: <199801191600.IAA24384@lists.u.washington.edu> Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA40342 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:56:20 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA19081 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:56:18 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA11335 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:57:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <19980118151219.27934.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 07:12:19 PST Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Lewis Adrelle" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: e-mail Resent-To: Pine Discussion Forum Content-Type: text/plain Resent-From: Drachen X-To: drachen@eni.net X-Received: from hotmail.com (F84.hotmail.com [207.82.250.190]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA21177 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 07:13:39 -0800 (PST) X-Received: (qmail 27935 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jan 1998 15:12:19 -0000 X-Received: from 130.250.1.20 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 07:12:19 PST X-Originating-IP: [130.250.1.20] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is that a yes or no? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:05:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA31225 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:05:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA16858; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:04:51 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA42126; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:00:49 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA43976 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 08:57:13 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA23655 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 08:57:12 -0800 Received: from ds1.gl.umbc.edu (root@ds1.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.3.11]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA08895 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 08:57:09 -0800 Received: from umbc9.umbc.edu (nriski1@60-umbc9.umbc.edu [130.85.60.11]) by ds1.gl.umbc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA24704 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:57:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (nriski1@localhost) by umbc9.umbc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA08214 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:57:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:57:06 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: NANCY RISKIN To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: hel[heahelp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Authentication-Warning: umbc9.umbc.edu: nriski1 owned process doing -bs X-Sender: nriski1@umbc9.umbc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN please hjepleasehelp Nancy Riskin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:17:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA31363 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:17:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA09346; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:17:51 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA46920; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:13:11 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA46884 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:12:12 -0800 Received: from isc.lf.net (isc.LF.net [194.64.4.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA24928 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:12:10 -0800 Received: by isc.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.95/isc.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remotehost sparclx with uucp for mxu1.u.washington.edu id m0xuKjw-00000OC; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 18:12:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de(really [192.9.200.142]) by mail.delta-ii.de via sendmail with smtp id for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 18:11:31 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jul-11) Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA28404; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 18:12:11 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 19 Jan 1998 18:12:10 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: hel[heahelp In-Reply-To: NANCY RISKIN's message of "Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:57:06 -0500 (EST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: NANCY RISKIN X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >>>On Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:57:06 -0500 (EST), NANCY RISKIN said: NR> please hjepleasehelp Nancy Riskin could you please have the utmost kindness to give us at least a tiny hint on what (technical pine) problem you are in need of help? Without any further information I can only point to the well written pine help pages ... l8er, norbert. -- Norbert Koch a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:20:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA31258 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:20:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA17113; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:20:12 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA13547; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:17:06 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA43898 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:16:15 -0800 Received: from ds1.gl.umbc.edu (root@ds1.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.3.11]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA25259 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:16:14 -0800 Received: from umbc9.umbc.edu (nriski1@60-umbc9.umbc.edu [130.85.60.11]) by ds1.gl.umbc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA24893; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:16:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (nriski1@localhost) by umbc9.umbc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA08948; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:16:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:16:11 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: NANCY RISKIN To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: hel[heahelp In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Norbert Koch X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: umbc9.umbc.edu: nriski1 owned process doing -bs X-Sender: nriski1@umbc9.umbc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN thanksforreplywheniytypeintotextisedoubleandtripleletterswthisonlyoccursinpineandbebanaboutaweekago Nancy Riskin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:49:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA31634 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:49:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA17507; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:49:15 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA25383; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:46:28 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA41758 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:45:10 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA04592 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:45:07 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA12231 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:45:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:43:50 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: unwanted mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN unfortunetly, that's not true. every so often I'll get sex-spam in accounts that I used to post to non-sex news groups. it sucks. that's life. Vinnie On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, Colin J. Raven wrote: > I'm not gonna touch this one! I s'pose it's no good telling the individual > that if you don't visit 'em in the beginning, chances are (these days > anyway) you won't get unsolicited mail. Please excuse me fellow > list members, I have this great 'pic of Daisy (The cloned sheep) ohhhh, > those lips, that wool...er....I have to go to the bathroom...later all > > -Colin k From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:39:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA32060 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:39:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA18325; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:39:46 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA18912; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:36:27 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA30098 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:35:06 -0800 Received: from s-cwis.unomaha.edu (s-cwis.unomaha.edu [137.48.1.11]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA08515 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:35:05 -0800 Received: from localhost (tlindahl@localhost) by s-cwis.unomaha.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA04188; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:30:41 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:30:41 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Todd Lindahl To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Regarding html attachment In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Rodolfo Gonzalez Gonzalez X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN is there a read a receipt option in the pine such as exchange or outlook thanks Todd On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Rodolfo Gonzalez Gonzalez wrote: > Hello, > > On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Todd Lindahl wrote: > > > Where is the command in Pine to save a attachment in html format? > > I am not fimiliar with this e-mail package. > > Thank You > > When you're reading the message, press v, select the part of the e-mail > you wanna save (the html attachment) and press s then you'll be prompted > to enter the name of the file you wanna use to save the attachment, you > can use the default name, enter your own one, or use the CTRL+T to use > Pilot to browse your directory tree and then select a name. I recommend > you use the default. Pr4ess entrer an voila!. > > Saludos. > Rodolfo. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:47:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA00256 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:47:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA11464; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:47:39 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA49754; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:43:06 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA29492 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:40:30 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA13927 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:40:28 -0800 Received: from blues.fd1.uc.edu (blues.fd1.uc.edu [129.137.244.7]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA19135 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:40:25 -0800 Received: from UCBEH.SAN.UC.EDU by UCBEH.SAN.UC.EDU (PMDF V5.0-8 #15949) id <01ISKC296XG89KNBR8@UCBEH.SAN.UC.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.EDU; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:37:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:37:38 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Dale Choi To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Question MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Sirs/Madams: Sometimes, I receive e-mail with attachments and cannot read them. I am prompted by the Pine system to save them. Where should I save them? How can I read attachments, especially image files? The Pine system is going to phase out in my university for an unknown reason. Is there a way to forward my e-mail in the Pine system to my new e-mail address which is not in the Pine system? Thank you. Sincerely, Kin Man Choi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:11:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA00519 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:11:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA19599; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:11:40 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA40920; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:09:03 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA28930 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:06:28 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA18853 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:06:22 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA18570; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:04:00 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:04:00 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Dale Choi X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Dale Choi >Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:37:38 -0500 (EST) > Sometimes, I receive e-mail with attachments and cannot read >them. I am prompted by the Pine system to save them. Where should I >save them? How can I read attachments, especially image files? If you want them, save them in your home directory, or on your machine at home. It's off topic, but someone may advise you on what to use for viewing if you provide details of file formats. You could check the archives. > The Pine system is going to phase out in my university for an >unknown reason. Is there a way to forward my e-mail in the Pine system >to my new e-mail address which is not in the Pine system? You will have to discuss with your system administrator what format mail will be stored in. pine doesn't use proprietary formats. Is your university eliminating Unix shell accounts? Really, we cannot know what is in the mind of your system administrator. You must make further enquiries. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:53:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA00791 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:53:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA20123; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:53:34 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA08596; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:50:35 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA29220 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:49:57 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA10965 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:49:56 -0800 Received: from lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk (lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk [130.209.34.18]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA20081 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:49:53 -0800 Received: from lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk (lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk [130.209.34.18] sender 9250781m) by lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk (8.8.4/UK-2.2a/cent-sparc) with SMTP id UAA00542 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 20:49:49 GMT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 20:49:49 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Gordon J Mckirdy <9250781m@udcf.gla.ac.uk> To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Selecting messages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: 9250781m@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there a way of selecting all the messages in your inbox and copy them to your recieved folder rather than copying each message individually Gordon. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:16:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA01355 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:16:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA12782; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:16:52 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA41462; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:13:29 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA32846 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:10:53 -0800 Received: from bloodgore (root@rhrz-isdn3-p33.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.225.97]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA12786 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:10:49 -0800 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.uni-bonn.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA05228; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 22:45:36 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 19 Jan 1998 22:45:36 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: hel[heahelp In-Reply-To: NANCY RISKIN's message of "Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:16:11 -0500 (EST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: NANCY RISKIN X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > NANCY RISKIN writes: > thanksforreplywheniytypeintotextisedoubleand > tripleletterswthisonlyoccursinpineandbebanaboutaweekago Turn off local echo in your telnet. Robin -- Robin S. Socha By the way, "xset -led 3" (I think that's the number) will turn off the Caps Lock LED on your keyboard - this may be necessary to keep it from burning out after extended periods of heavy use. (Roy Stogner) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:20:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA01259 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:20:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA20661; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:20:08 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA19046; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:16:21 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA50260 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:10:53 -0800 Received: from bloodgore.uni-bonn.de (root@rhrz-isdn3-p33.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.225.97]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA12790 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:10:51 -0800 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.uni-bonn.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA05225; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 22:44:45 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 19 Jan 1998 22:44:45 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: cannot print from filemaker pro In-Reply-To: jc@elsevier.be's message of "Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:51:22 +0100" References: <34C37679.D2A375C0@elsevier.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: jc@elsevier.be (Johan Creemers) X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Johan Creemers writes: > Hi, My problem is simple : And it is indeed, isn't it? This is *not* comp.mac.printers, this is the pine discussion forum. Next one, please... Robin -- Robin S. Socha The spaceship shuddered. Captain Wilson saw his navigator cringing from a suddenly blue screen. Damn it. If they survived this, a certain Redmond, USA, earth would find itself in hot plasma... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:21:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA01418 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:21:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA20673; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:21:38 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA12061; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:18:30 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA17338 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:11:00 -0800 Received: from bloodgore.uni-bonn.de (root@rhrz-isdn3-p33.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.225.97]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA12807 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:10:58 -0800 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.uni-bonn.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA05245; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 22:53:41 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 19 Jan 1998 22:53:41 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Question In-Reply-To: Dale Choi's message of "Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:37:38 -0500 (EST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Dale Choi X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Dale Choi wrote on Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:37:38 -0500 (EST): > Sometimes, I receive e-mail with attachments and cannot read them. > I am prompted by the Pine system to save them. Where should I save > them? On a unix system? Do this: mkdir ~/Pics then save the files there. > How can I read attachments, especially image files? Read? "cat | more" or simply "less ". If you want to view images, you need X (unix's window system) and an image viewer, e.g. xv, xli, display or even netscape. > The Pine system is going to phase out in my university for an unknown > reason. Is there a way to forward my e-mail in the Pine system to my > new e-mail address which is not in the Pine system? Sure, those are just emails. Two options: 1. Copy your old files to disk and put them on the new system. 2. Go to M(ain) S(etup) C(onfig) and "enable aggregate commands". Make sure to read the instructions by hitting the "?" key. Then mark all old mail and forward it. Did I mention that pine does not support digests, guys? Or soup packages for that matter? Gnus rocks, duhhhhhh }:-> Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha There comes a time when you put your lives Into the hands of the gods From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:23:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA01378 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:23:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA20694; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:23:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA12297; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:20:13 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA47588 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:11:03 -0800 Received: from bloodgore (root@rhrz-isdn3-p33.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.225.97]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA12812 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:11:01 -0800 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.uni-bonn.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA05233; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 22:47:37 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 19 Jan 1998 22:47:37 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Regarding html attachment In-Reply-To: Todd Lindahl's message of "Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:30:41 -0600 (CST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Todd Lindahl X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Todd Lindahl writes: > is there a read a receipt option in the pine such as exchange or > outlook For starters, there's no such thing in Sexchange or Outcast. It's in your MTA if at all. If you want to make really sure, set a filtering system with your correspondents that generates receipt messages. It's a waste of bandwidth, but we do exactly that for important correspondence. Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept., Bonn University main(){printf(&unix["\021%six\012\0"],(unix)["have"]+"fun"-0x60);} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:27:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA01436 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:27:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA12918; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:27:03 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA12576; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:22:55 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA24358 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:22:05 -0800 Received: from bloodgore.uni-bonn.de (robin@rhrz-isdn3-p49.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.225.113]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA21879 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:22:03 -0800 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.uni-bonn.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA05657; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 23:18:32 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 19 Jan 1998 23:18:32 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Selecting messages In-Reply-To: Gordon J Mckirdy's message of "Mon, 19 Jan 1998 20:49:49 +0000 (GMT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Gordon J Mckirdy <9250781m@udcf.gla.ac.uk> X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Gordon J Mckirdy <9250781m@udcf.gla.ac.uk> writes: GJM> Is there a way of selecting all the messages in your inbox and GJM> copy them to your recieved folder rather than copying each GJM> message individually enable-aggregate-commands Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha This message brought to you by Microsoft. Inventors of multitasking, windowing, graphical user interfaces, the 32 bit OS, the Internet, the wheel, fire, air, and God. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:32:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA02979 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:32:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA14768; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:32:01 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA20488; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:28:30 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA45624 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:27:15 -0800 Received: from spira.plb.de (root@spira.plb.de [193.175.255.7]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA05798 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:27:13 -0800 Received: from spira.plb.de (bork@spira.plb.de [193.175.255.7]) by spira.plb.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA21532; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:28:58 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:28:58 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "H. Bork" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Selecting messages In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Gordon J Mckirdy <9250781m@udcf.gla.ac.uk> X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, Gordon J Mckirdy wrote: _Is there a way of selecting all the messages in your inbox and copy them _to your recieved folder rather than copying each message individually preparation: m ain menue s etup c onfig w hereis aggregate x (check) e xit y es --------------------------- usage: g o inbox (or any other folder) selection: ; (really ;) a ll messages action: a ggregate command: s ave (name of folder) *-done-* Good luck trying all the other ways of manual selection. Kind regards, -- hal :-) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 18:02:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA04624 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 18:02:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA16807; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 18:02:07 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA29059; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 17:59:10 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA40170 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 17:57:40 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA14826 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 17:57:38 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA21956; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 17:58:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 17:56:15 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: e-mail In-Reply-To: <19980118151219.27934.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Lewis Adrelle X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN That would be a no. It would also be a suggestion to keep your spamming away from mailing lists. Vinnie On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Lewis Adrelle wrote: > Is that a yes or no? > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:07:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA05107 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:07:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA25676; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:07:06 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA22396; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:02:47 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA37212 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:01:35 -0800 Received: from dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.13]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA22073 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:01:33 -0800 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA21563 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 21:01:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from den-co23-18.ix.netcom.com(206.214.109.146) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma021324; Mon Jan 19 20:59:31 1998 Message-Id: <34C411E2.A6055614@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:54:26 -0700 Reply-To: rmedia@ix.netcom.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jim Sherman To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: $Free Cash Grants$ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I was wanting $35,000 to start a buiness and help people with education. INFO: address:1020 gale avenue city:Boulder state:Colorado country:USA zipcode:80303 number:1-303-499-8054 e-mail:McLarenMe@aol.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:43:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA05491 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:43:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA26156; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:43:32 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA45590; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:41:36 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA41860 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:40:07 -0800 Received: from mole.slip.net (mole.slip.net [207.171.193.16]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id TAA24885 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:40:04 -0800 Received: from slip-3.slip.net [207.171.193.17] (batchman) by mole.slip.net with smtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 0xuUXe-0002jH-00; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:39:58 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:39:58 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shoeless in San Jose To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: $Free Cash Grants$ In-Reply-To: <34C411E2.A6055614@ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: batchman@slip-3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, Jim Sherman wrote: > I was wanting $35,000 to start a buiness and help people with education. Me, too, but you don't see me begging for money in here. Get a job! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:46:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA05145 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:46:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA18307; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:46:27 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA05766; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:43:16 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA27140 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:40:35 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA11248 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:40:33 -0800 Received: from ops_svr (ip39.irvine.quik.com [207.38.102.39]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA50022; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 03:36:31 GMT Message-Id: <199801200336.DAA50022@ns3.quik.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:39:01 -0800 Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: RE: $Free Cash Grants$ In-Reply-To: <34C411E2.A6055614@ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Well I'd sure like $35,000 to buy two DEC Alpha 4x600MHX processor Screamers, a T3, routers, two name servers and a big chair to sit back and look at all of it humming away! You have reached a mailing list devoted exclusively to the email program known as PINE. Most of us on this list are penniless (maybe not Ed, he works for a "Big Company") and whatever our financial status, this isn't the place to hunt for entrepeneurial start-up capital. Sorry we can't be of any help whatsoever, but Good Luck with your search! -Colin. ------------------------------------- Colin J. Raven Network & Systems Administrator HDS Lab, Inc. Costa Mesa CA | Harrison NY "Communications at the Speed of Life" > -----Original Message----- > From: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu > [mailto:PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of Jim Sherman > Sent: Monday, January 19, 1998 6:54 PM > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: $Free Cash Grants$ > > > I was wanting $35,000 to start a buiness and help people with education. > INFO: > address:1020 gale avenue > city:Boulder > state:Colorado > country:USA > zipcode:80303 > number:1-303-499-8054 > e-mail:McLarenMe@aol.com > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:52:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA05906 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:52:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA26302; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:52:49 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA25122; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:50:39 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA35348 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:50:07 -0800 Received: from cwolf.alaska.edu (cwolf.uaa.alaska.edu [137.229.100.202]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA25622 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:50:06 -0800 Received: from UAA.ALASKA.EDU by UAA.ALASKA.EDU (PMDF V5.1-10 #22326) id <01ISKKUNRGNK8WZ25S@UAA.ALASKA.EDU> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 18:49:36 -0900 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 18:49:36 -0900 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: BRIAN E NISONGER To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: hel[heahelp In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: NANCY RISKIN X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN No problem the answer is: Brian Nisonger Computer Consultant AXBEN@UAA.ALASKA.EDU "No Dave"- 2001 On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, NANCY RISKIN wrote: > please hjepleasehelp > > > > > > > Nancy Riskin > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 02:16:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA30882 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 02:16:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA01441; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 02:16:37 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA11304; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 02:14:24 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA35578 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 02:13:47 -0800 Received: from sindbad.rz.uni-augsburg.de (binder@sindbad.RZ.Uni-Augsburg.DE [137.250.111.37]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA17512 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 02:13:45 -0800 Received: from localhost (binder@localhost) by sindbad.rz.uni-augsburg.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA16015; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:13:25 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:13:25 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: Thomas Binder Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Thomas Binder To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: reply to address In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Robin S. Socha wrote: > Oops... That's "customize headers" in fact: > OPTION: Customized-Headers > > You may add your own custom headers to all outgoing messages. Each header > you specify here must include the header tag (Reply-To:, Approved:, etc.) > and may optionally include a value for that header. If you want to see > these custom headers each time you compose a message, you must add them to > your default composer headers list (see above), otherwise they become part > of the rich header set which you only see when you press the rich header > (Ctrl-R) command. is it possible to change the Reply-To: and From: Header Tags to different ones for each folder I use? I have folders for each of my email-addresses, and I want to use different Headers for each of my addresses... thanx for your help.. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 02:50:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA10403 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 02:50:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA01960; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 02:50:42 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA23698; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 02:48:18 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA10574 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 02:47:02 -0800 Received: from isc.lf.net (isc.LF.net [194.64.4.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA15582 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 02:46:52 -0800 Received: by isc.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.95/isc.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remotehost sparclx with uucp for mx3.u.washington.edu id m0xubCh-000oZ1C; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:46:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de(really [192.9.200.142]) by mail.delta-ii.de via sendmail with smtp id for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:46:42 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jul-11) Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA29547; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:47:23 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 20 Jan 1998 11:47:23 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: reply to address In-Reply-To: Thomas Binder's message of "Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:13:25 +0100 (MET)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Thomas Binder X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >>>On Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:13:25 +0100 (MET), Thomas Binder said: TB> On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Robin S. Socha wrote: >> Oops... That's "customize headers" in fact: OPTION: >> Customized-Headers >> >> You may add your own custom headers to all outgoing messages. >> Each header you specify here must include the header tag >> (Reply-To:, Approved:, etc.) and may optionally include a value >> for that header. If you want to see these custom headers each >> time you compose a message, you must add them to your default >> composer headers list (see above), otherwise they become part of >> the rich header set which you only see when you press the rich >> header (Ctrl-R) command. Hi, TB> is it possible to change the Reply-To: and From: Header Tags to TB> different ones for each folder I use? I have folders for each of TB> my email-addresses, and I want to use different Headers for each TB> of my addresses... not that I know of. In this case I advice you to start pine with different, folder-dependent configuration files - not very satisfactory, though. And about the 'From:'-field: you know, recompilation is necessary with the change allowed. l8er, norbert. -- Norbert Koch a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:05:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA12584 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:05:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA26443; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:05:04 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA29574; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:02:40 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA41018 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:00:15 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA19790 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:00:13 -0800 Received: from vivek.doe.ernet.in (vivek.doe.ernet.in [202.41.100.95]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id FAA26340 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:00:08 -0800 Received: from vikram.doe.ernet.in by vivek.doe.ernet.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-4.1-MHS-7.0) id SAA05489; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:31:28 -0500 Received: from cdotd.UUCP by vikram.doe.ernet.in (4.1/SMI-4.1-MHS-7.0) id AA07362; Tue, 20 Jan 98 18:37:44+050 Received: from octon.cdotd.ernet.in by cdotd.cdotd.ernet.in (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20746; Tue, 20 Jan 98 18:10:09 GMT Received: from localhost by octon.cdotd.ernet.in with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA04218; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:15:11 +0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:15:11 +0500 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Srinivasa T.N." To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Don't want to include "Cc" names in the message. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, What should I do such that the mail-ids I am entering at "Cc:" will not be sent along with the message. (I am using Pine 3.96). #C-DOT#C-DOT#C-DOT#C-DOT#C-DOT#C-DOT#C-DOT#C-DOT#C-DOT#C-DOT#C-DOT#C-DOT#C-DOT# C Srinivasa T.N., Ph: +91 - 11 - 4677525 - 327. C - Research Engr., ccc . - D C-DOT,9th floor, c c email: seenutn@cdotd.ernet.in D O Akbar Bhawan, ccccc seenutn@usa.net O T ChanakyaPuri, ND-21. seenutn@hotmail.com T #C-DOT#C-DOT#C-DOT#C-DOT#C-DOT#C-DOT#C-DOT#C-DOT#C-DOT#C-DOT#C-DOT#C-DOT#C-DOT# From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:50:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA12914 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:50:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA27224; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:50:24 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA29772; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:47:55 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA17512 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:44:24 -0800 Received: from green.indy.net (green.indy.net [199.3.65.18]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA21869 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:44:23 -0800 Received: from indy4.indy.net (root@indy4.indy.net [199.3.65.4]) by green.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA28988 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:44:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (pfarabee@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by indy4.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA29010 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:44:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:44:51 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: Noone Special Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Noone Special To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Don't want to include "Cc" names in the message. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: pfarabee@indy4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN (>STN>) On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, Srinivasa T.N. wrote: >STN> Hi, What should I do such that the mail-ids I am entering at "Cc:" >STN> will not be sent along with the message. (I am using Pine 3.96). There is a header called "Bcc," which stands for "Blind Carbon Copy" that you can use for that. You can get the header to appear by selecting the "Rich Headers" command while editing anything in the header section of your message (IE while typing in the Subject) The command for rich headers should be listed at the bottom of your screen while in these sections. If you can't find the command, just keep looking.. It's there. Whatever addresses you put in the Bcc field will recieve the message, but will not see the other recipients of it. Pat From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 06:01:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA13064 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 06:01:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA05246; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 06:01:42 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA18220; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:59:39 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA24724 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:55:54 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA13762 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:55:51 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 21:54:50 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 21:54:50 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Don't want to include "Cc" names in the message. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Srinivasa T.N." X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, Srinivasa T.N. wrote: > What should I do such that the mail-ids I am entering at "Cc:" will not > be sent along with the message. (I am using Pine 3.96). With your cursor in the header area type ctrl-r to reveal the "rich headers". Then put the addresses in the Bcc: field. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 07:36:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA13822 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 07:36:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA06953; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 07:36:31 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA23617; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 07:32:50 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA38722 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 07:31:28 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA03630 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 07:31:26 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA03812; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:29:43 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:29:43 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: ASCII Transfers In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Raymond Reese X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Raymond Reese >Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 02:51:48 -0800 (PST) >There is no winning when the opponent beleives he sees all and knows all! >Don't bother me! I said I was done with you and just leave it at that!!!! Wow. You're my enemy? This list is attracting deranged people. >On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>>From: Raymond Reese >>>Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 15:14:58 -0800 (PST) >>>As for you crude comment regarding Cursor keys. If you don't know what the >>>hell cursor keys are or how to use them in conjunction with bulletin >>>boards and the like, then I it's obvious what your skill level is. >>>If you object strongly to what I have said in the foregoing, life is >>>tough! I have no need for your inane banter. I will no longer request help >>>in the manner that I did. >>I'm so glad that you've solved problems on your own, and can afford to insult >>anyone trying to help. >More inane banter I gather from someone who knows it all!!! >How long do you want to keep this up? Your next reply, if any, will be >deleted before I even read it. Too bad I can't put a block on you. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 07:44:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA13919 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 07:44:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA29313; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 07:44:01 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA24247; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 07:39:29 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA17624 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 07:37:43 -0800 Received: from sundial.alumni.ust.hk (sundial.alumni.ust.hk [143.89.127.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA21285 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 07:37:42 -0800 Received: from localhost (koebi@localhost) by sundial.alumni.ust.hk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA14433; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 23:38:05 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 23:38:05 +0800 (HKT) Reply-To: Y M Kung Charles Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Y M Kung Charles To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Don't want to include "Cc" names in the message. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Noone Special X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Whatever addresses you put in the Bcc field will recieve the message, but > will not see the other recipients of it. > > > Pat > > > Even the receiver display the full header of the mail? Charles From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 07:48:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA14007 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 07:48:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA07291; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 07:48:22 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA06787; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 07:43:44 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA41124 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 07:41:21 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA16542 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 07:41:17 -0800 Received: from bombay2.vsnl.net.in (bombay2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.22]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA29254 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 07:41:10 -0800 Received: from PPP46-83.lvsb.vsnl.net.in (PPP46-83.lvsb.vsnl.net.in [202.54.46.83]) by bombay2.vsnl.net.in (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA22542 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 21:12:57 +0530 (IST) Message-Id: <34C58399.7FD5@bom3.vsnl.net.in> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 21:11:53 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "R.V. Raman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Decoding base64 files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Authentication-Warning: bombay2.vsnl.net.in: PPP46-83.lvsb.vsnl.net.in [202.54.46.83] didn't use HELO protocol X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi ! Please tell me how I should decode a file attatchment encoded in base64 encoding format. Kindly give full procedure. Thanks Ganesh From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:12:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA14400 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:12:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA29970; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:12:03 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA27228; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:07:48 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA29208 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:06:31 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA06803 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:06:29 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA49380; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:04:53 GMT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:04:52 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: ASCII transfers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Raymond Reese X-Cc: Pine Discussion Group X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Raymond; You are out of control, and seriously off-base with this. Let me advise you of a couple of things here: 1. When you originally posted to this list, be advised that your post was off-topic. This is a mailing list devoted exclusively to the email program known as PINE, nothing else...period. 2. Notwithstanding that, if a list member knows the answer to an off-topic question, he/she will usually spend the time necessary to help the individual. So consider what happened will you?: a) You posted a question (off-topic) for help with terminal matters. b) You were answered by Adam. (I saw your post and had I known the answer I would have replied too, but I didn't) His advice was correct, and his manner helpful, and he added the necessary comments he felt necessary. BTW he was contextually correct. c) Your response to someone who tried to help you was abusive, derogatory in content, ill-mannered, and you acted like an ingrate. You reply was completely 100% uncalled for period. d) You then follow this whopping act of poor judgement with even more rhetoric along the same lines????? For goodness sake, take a moment and think about exactly what you did. As a highly esteemed list colleague and friend recently observed to another errant know-nothing on this list; "Being you must really suck. People like Adam rule and you suck" You owe Adam an aplology, have the sense of decency to (at least) email him privately and do just that. Spare yourself public embarrasment and do that decent thing. No-one is asking you to do as others have done, and apologize publicly, that takes courage that you clearly don't have. Just do it privately, and go away having learned something. You will otherwise be judged by everyone on this list to be spineless, lacking any ethical or moral standards, and not worthy of a response from any single list member in the future. -Colin. ----------------------- Colin J. Raven HDS Lab, Inc. Network & Systems Administrator. Costa Mesa CA | Harrison NY "Rude people are like a bag of old garbage, the longer it's around the more it stinks" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:18:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA14556 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:17:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA08147; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:17:55 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA09687; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:14:45 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA27520 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:12:53 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA19778 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:12:51 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA22125; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:13:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:11:22 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Don't want to include "Cc" names in the message. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Y M Kung Charles X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN yes, as long as you are running a rfc compliant smtp server .. (at least I'm fairly sure that Bcc is in the rfc.if it's not, well, flame me to a crisp :) I'm too lazy to go check it myself) if you don't understand the first sentence, then don't worry about it, the answer is most likely yes (like in 99.99999% of the cases I know of..) If you're a really paranoid sort, test it by Bcc'ing yourself about four times and look at the headers, if you don't see it, no one else will. Vinnie On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, Y M Kung Charles wrote: > > Whatever addresses you put in the Bcc field will recieve the message, but > > will not see the other recipients of it. > > > > > > Pat > > > > > > > > Even the receiver display the full header of the mail? > > Charles > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:18:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA14551 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:18:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA00307; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:18:34 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA27667; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:13:37 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA28518 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:11:53 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA19690 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:11:50 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA50080; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:10:06 GMT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:10:06 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Decoding base64 files In-Reply-To: <34C58399.7FD5@bom3.vsnl.net.in> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "R.V. Raman" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN If you are using Pine, the procedure is fairly simple. hit "v" to view "s" to save (the part of the message that you need to read/see) This saves it to your local drive. Use WS_FTP or similar FTP software to FTP it down to your local machine, then you'll have to open/view it using whatever software it was written/composed with. Hope this helps, and good luck! -Colin On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, R.V. Raman wrote: > Hi ! > > Please tell me how I should decode a file attatchment encoded in base64 > encoding format. > > Kindly give full procedure. > > Thanks > Ganesh > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:03:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA19839 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:03:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA16725; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:03:38 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA02228; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:59:18 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA30874 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:57:04 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA00960 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:57:02 -0800 Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (root@jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA16463 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:56:58 -0800 Received: from dante30.u.washington.edu (jdanostr@dante30.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.104]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA27984 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:56:57 -0800 Received: from localhost (jdanostr@localhost) by dante30.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id LAA73196 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:56:56 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:56:56 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "J. Ostrander" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: problems expunging??? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN i have a problem... everytime i try to expunge messages from my inbox a prompt appears that says "can't expunge from inbox because it is being used by another process." what does this mean and how can i expunge again...? thank you jeremy ostrander From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:00:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA25378 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:00:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA24441; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:00:01 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA23421; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:56:28 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA44024 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:54:49 -0800 Received: from sakaki.communique.net (sakaki.communique.net [204.27.65.7]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA16135 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:54:48 -0800 Received: from nodon.communique.net (ppp-204-27-123-130.co.communique.net [204.27.123.130]) by sakaki.communique.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA29406 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:54:38 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <019301bd25fe$6b99bbc0$c8a3070a@nodon.communique.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:52:07 -0600 Reply-To: "Don Allaire" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Don Allaire" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine & Cursor Keys with Wyse50 and Wyse60 terminals MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello: I would like to get some info in the archives that helped me out. Below is a response I recieved from Richard Gering answering the question of why don't the cursor keys work properly in Pine 3.96 with Wyse 50 and Wyse 60 terminals without doing a recompile of Pine. Thanks again Richard! Question: I am running FreeBSD 2.2.2, and using the standard Termcap database that shipped with the OS release. We are running Pine v. 3.96. When our wyse50 & wyse60 terminals log in, the TERM environment variable is set to the correct terminal type. When pine is run, the key mappings for the arrow keys don't work properly. I have checked out the termcap database, and it seems to have the correct key mappings for ku, kd, kl, kr. For instance, when I press the up arrow in Pine's main menu screen, pine responds with "^K is not defined for this screen". Answer: By default, Pine will not accept any key sequence that doesn't start with an ESCape. This was done for historic reasons. There is a way to activate full termcap/terminfo support though, which should give you what you want. To accomplish this, append "-DTERMCAP_WINS" to the lines defining the "STDCFLAGS=" in both pico/makefile. and pine/makefile.. Next, do a complete rebuild: you're in business! You should be aware that certain Ctrl-key based commands in Pine and Pico will not work on a Wyse 50, since these commands are identical to the values returned by some of the edit keys (which now have precedence). Most noticeably Ctrl-^ (Mark) and Ctrl-K (Cut) will now act as Home and Cursor-Up respectively. To use Mark and Cut, press ESC ESC ^ and ESC ESC K instead. In Pine, ESC ESC is always available as an alternate to pressing Ctrl-. This "problem" can be avoided on the Wyse 60 terminals by selecting a TERM entry that programs the cursor keys with ANSI sequences. Usually, these entries have the extension "ak" tagged to then (for ANSI Key, I guess). From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:18:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA25693 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:18:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA16674; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:18:26 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA11346; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:13:29 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA34394 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:11:35 -0800 Received: from sakaki.communique.net (sakaki.communique.net [204.27.65.7]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA07571 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:11:32 -0800 Received: from nodon.communique.net (ppp-204-27-123-130.co.communique.net [204.27.123.130]) by sakaki.communique.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA03049 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:11:27 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <01a301bd2600$c4ffdd00$c8a3070a@nodon.communique.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:08:56 -0600 Reply-To: "Don Allaire" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Don Allaire" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Main Menu bar misalignment. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello: This is again for the archives. Question: I am having a problem with the main menu highlighter bar displaying incorrectly with all versions of wyse50 emulating terminals, and emulation software. The menu bar is wrapping the screen, therefore when one arrows up or down, the menu bar gets very unreadable or disappears. Answer: While scanning through various termcap databases on Wyse50 terminals, I found this helpful piece of info. Apparently, wyse30 and wyse50 terminals have an inherent standout mode glitch which occasionally cause problems like the ones I experienced with the menu bar in Pine's main menu. These terminals support a "PROTECT" sequence on/off that has no standout-glitch (xmc), while the regular "attribute" stuff enabled with G'some-character' gives a 1-space glitch. All but the very old revision firmware on both terminals support a visible PROTECT attribute that's selectable by the ol' SETUP menu. (The older rev. terminals do support PROTECT attribute but only have the options REGULAR and DIM) Get into your terminal's SETUP menu, and down-key to the 5'th menu (on a wyse 30; I think 3'rd or 4'th on a wyse 50) and right-key over to the PROTECT item. Change PROTECT to REVERSE or REVERSE/DIM, and go over to the next item -- ATTRIBUTE and change it to LINE; then save the changes. The next thing that you will need to do is change your termcap database so that it uses the proper escape sequences to turn on/off the protect sequence rather than the very-ugly \EG4 and \EG0. You do this by changing standout to \E), standend to \E(, and glitch to 0, which means changing the so, se, and sg fields to so=\E) se=\E( sg#0 I actually didn't have to change my terminals in my circumstance, as the terminal change had already been made. However when I made the small change to the wy50 termcap entry, the menu bar started working like it was supposed to. The above information was presented in the termcap database comments, and written by steve@omni.com I hope that this helps someone else as it did myself. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:30:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA25887 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:30:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA25180; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:30:06 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA25262; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:26:50 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA16928 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:25:27 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA03557 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:25:16 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:24:36 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:24:36 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Don't want to include "Cc" names in the message. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Y M Kung Charles X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, Y M Kung Charles wrote: > > Whatever addresses you put in the Bcc field will recieve the message, but > > will not see the other recipients of it. > > Even the receiver display the full header of the mail? Correct. The actual transport of email relies upon "envelope" information and not "header" information. When pine, or any other user agent, contacts the MTA to start a message on its way it will send all the receipient information in the "envelope" but will not include it in the headers. In fact, some user agents will take 2 transmissions to accomplish. -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce GSM: +65-975-10860 Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:36:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA31136 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:36:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA24106; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:36:08 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA47548; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:34:15 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA29372 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:32:33 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA19542 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:32:32 -0800 Received: from taurus.sfsu.edu (rgdavis@taurus.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.237]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA02373 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:32:28 -0800 Received: from localhost (rgdavis@localhost) by taurus.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA05512 for <"pine-info@cac.washington.edu"@sfsu.edu>; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:32:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:32:26 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ronald Davis To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: messages disappear do not remain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "pine-info@cac.washington.edu"@sfsu.edu X-Sender: rgdavis@taurus X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Something wrong here? I read my Jan 20 messages. Closed the computer down reopened it to find a way to note that my previous messages Jan 18 and 19 were gone.. and then the 20 Jan ones went also? Where RGDavis rgdavis@sfsu.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 01:48:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA01268 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 01:48:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA26675; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 01:48:26 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA09754; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 01:43:19 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA24508 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 01:42:09 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA27804 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 01:42:08 -0800 Received: from studserv.uni-leipzig.de (studserv.uni-leipzig.de [139.18.1.15]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA04821 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 01:42:05 -0800 Received: from localhost (pge94fpf@localhost) by studserv.uni-leipzig.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA74796 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:42:03 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:42:03 +0100 (MEZ) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ulf Winkler To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Sirs, I have one question: Is it possible using Pine 3.96, if one composes a message to a distribution list, that means to several different addresses, to send this message in one step in such a way that any receiver of the message cannot read in the hader who else has got the same message? If this is not possible I would like to make the suggestion to allow this option in future versions of pine. With my best regards, Ulf Winkler, Leipzig, Germany From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 02:00:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA01423 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 02:00:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA26820; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 02:00:03 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA10006; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 01:58:05 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA17774 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 01:56:46 -0800 Received: from isc.lf.net (isc.LF.net [194.64.4.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA16729 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 01:56:43 -0800 Received: by isc.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.95/isc.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remotehost sparclx with uucp for mx3.u.washington.edu id m0xuwtl-000rtGC; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:56:41 +0100 (MET) Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de(really [192.9.200.142]) by mail.delta-ii.de via sendmail with smtp id for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:56:36 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jul-11) Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA01377; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:57:40 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 21 Jan 1998 10:57:39 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: question In-Reply-To: Ulf Winkler's message of "Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:42:03 +0100 (MEZ)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ulf Winkler X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >>>On Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:42:03 +0100 (MEZ), Ulf Winkler said: Hi (Hallo :-), UW> Dear Sirs, I have one question: Is it possible using Pine 3.96, UW> if one composes a message to a distribution list, that means to UW> several different addresses, to send this message in one step in UW> such a way that any receiver of the message cannot read in the UW> hader who else has got the same message? If this is not possible UW> I would like to make the suggestion to allow this option in UW> future versions of pine. UW> With my best regards, That was in comp.mail.pine yesterday ... while composing a message move the cursor into the header region and press ctrl-r (rich header). Then write the list of addressees into the field Bcc: (blind carbon copy) and noone will know who else has got the message (even if all header options are on, as has been stated in the other thread). l8er, norbert. -- Norbert Koch a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 02:12:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA01598 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 02:12:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA05170; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 02:12:40 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA24524; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 02:10:30 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA24382 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 02:09:29 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA17190 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 02:09:24 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:08:58 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:08:57 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Norbert Koch X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 21 Jan 1998, Norbert Koch wrote: > >>>On Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:42:03 +0100 (MEZ), Ulf Winkler said: > > Hi (Hallo :-), > > UW> Dear Sirs, I have one question: Is it possible using Pine 3.96, > UW> if one composes a message to a distribution list, that means to > UW> several different addresses, to send this message in one step in > UW> such a way that any receiver of the message cannot read in the > UW> hader who else has got the same message? If this is not possible > UW> I would like to make the suggestion to allow this option in > UW> future versions of pine. > > UW> With my best regards, > > That was in comp.mail.pine yesterday ... while composing a message > move the cursor into the header region and press ctrl-r (rich > header). Then write the list of addressees into the field Bcc: (blind > carbon copy) and noone will know who else has got the message (even if > all header options are on, as has been stated in the other thread). An even better way would be to use the Lcc: field. Go to the Lcc: field in the "rich headers" area and type ctrl-g for more information... -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce GSM: +65-975-10860 Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 02:23:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA01723 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 02:23:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA05324; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 02:23:39 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA23814; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 02:21:41 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA27916 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 02:20:36 -0800 Received: from isc.lf.net (isc.LF.net [194.64.4.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA29374 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 02:20:27 -0800 Received: by isc.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.95/isc.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remotehost sparclx with uucp for mxu1.u.washington.edu id m0xuxGV-000rjOC; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:20:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de(really [192.9.200.142]) by mail.delta-ii.de via sendmail with smtp id for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:19:58 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jul-11) Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA01387; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:20:55 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 21 Jan 1998 11:20:55 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: question In-Reply-To: Edward M Greshko's message of "Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:08:57 +0800 (GMT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edward M Greshko X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >>>On Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:08:57 +0800 (GMT), Edward M Greshko said: UW> Dear Sirs, I have one question: Is it possible using Pine 3.96, UW> if one composes a message to a distribution list, that means to UW> several different addresses, to send this message in one step in UW> such a way that any receiver of the message cannot read in the UW> hader who else has got the same message? If this is not possible UW> I would like to make the suggestion to allow this option in UW> future versions of pine. >> UW> With my best regards, >> That was in comp.mail.pine yesterday ... while composing a >> message move the cursor into the header region and press ctrl-r >> (rich header). Then write the list of addressees into the field >> Bcc: (blind carbon copy) and noone will know who else has got the >> message (even if all header options are on, as has been stated in >> the other thread). EMG> An even better way would be to use the Lcc: field. Go to the EMG> Lcc: field in the "rich headers" area and type ctrl-g for more EMG> information... Hi Ed, yes you may be right, but I wasn't sure whether 'distribution list' refers to a mailing-list or to a list of recipients locally created in the user's address book. But maybe, it's all the same ... I'm not that much into pine (it's gnus, yes it is :-) cheers, norbert. -- Norbert Koch a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:54:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA08284 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:54:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA03348; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:54:04 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA24894; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:49:25 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA46878 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:46:51 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA18792 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:46:49 -0800 Received: from garnet.acns.fsu.edu (gmhub.acns.fsu.edu [128.186.195.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA11514 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:46:47 -0800 Received: from garnet1.acns.fsu.edu (garnet1.acns.fsu.edu [128.186.195.2]) by garnet.acns.fsu.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA11312 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:46:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (amr7464@localhost) by garnet1.acns.fsu.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA132860 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:46:45 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:46:45 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Andrew M Ruggiero To: "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Authentication-Warning: garnet1.acns.fsu.edu: amr7464 owned process doing -bs X-Sender: amr7464@garnet1.acns.fsu.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I seem to have a little problem. Everytime I try to sign on to my pine program its telling me there is an error and I haven't a clue how to it. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:59:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA08463 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:59:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA03473; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:59:46 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA25597; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:56:49 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA36906 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:55:55 -0800 Received: from quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.19]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA13281 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:55:53 -0800 Received: from gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.18]) by quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA11008 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:55:46 -0700 Received: from localhost (maldridg@localhost) by gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA93158 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:55:46 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:55:46 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Lea To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Information List X-Sender: maldridg@gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Andrew M Ruggiero wrote: > I seem to have a little problem. Everytime I try to sign on to my pine > program its telling me there is an error and I haven't a clue how to it. Neither do we, with no information...Are you able to actually log on to your account, or is that where the problem lies? WHat is the exact text of the error message you're getting? Lets start there... Lea ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) http://www.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/tutor/Tutorials.html http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/Wiz/Wizard '...But I didn't mean to be brave; it just sort of happened when I panicked...' -Piglet ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:06:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA08931 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:06:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA03729; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:06:10 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA26038; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:02:00 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA33830 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:00:54 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA13891 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:00:50 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA16283; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:01:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:59:18 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Andrew M Ruggiero X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN can you tell us exactly what the error says. Vinnie On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Andrew M Ruggiero wrote: > I seem to have a little problem. Everytime I try to sign on to my pine > program its telling me there is an error and I haven't a clue how to it. > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:28:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA09349 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:28:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA12728; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:28:24 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA27630; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:24:21 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA20270 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:22:10 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA23497 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:22:08 -0800 Received: from ua1ix.ua.edu (ua1ix.ua.edu [130.160.4.150]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA04214 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:22:05 -0800 Received: from localhost (hsnyder@localhost) by ua1ix.ua.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA20100 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:22:49 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:22:48 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Howard J. Snyder" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: printing messages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have not been able to print a copy of any of my messages for future reference. Could you please tell me how to accomplish this? My e-mail address is: hsnyder@ua1ix.ua.edu I use the command as shown at the bottom of the screen but nothing happens at the printer. Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:46:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA09708 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:46:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA13217; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:46:52 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA40494; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:41:17 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA18088 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:40:33 -0800 Received: from quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.19]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA25762 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:40:31 -0800 Received: from gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.18]) by quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA26372 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:40:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (maldridg@localhost) by gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA88996 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:40:29 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:40:29 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Lea To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Attn ROBIN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Information List X-Sender: maldridg@gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Sorry, guys...Robin, could you please e-mail me off-list with your working e-mail address. I don't have it, and the sushi one is (of course) bouncing. Thanky. Lea From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:59:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA09949 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:59:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA05113; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:58:59 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA00129; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:53:05 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA28040 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:51:14 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA28432 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:51:12 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA02053; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:50:46 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:48:27 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: printing messages In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Howard J. Snyder" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN sounds to me like your computer and printer are not configured to talk to eachother properly. Your best bet would probably be to get your local techie type person to get computer and printer talking. Once that happens, it's likely that you will be able to print out of pine correctly. Meanwhile, try the {E}xport command. It saves paper :) Vinnie On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Howard J. Snyder wrote: > I have not been able to print a copy of any of my messages for future > reference. Could you please tell me how to accomplish this? My e-mail > address is: hsnyder@ua1ix.ua.edu I use the command as shown at the > bottom of the screen but nothing happens at the printer. > Thanks > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:19:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA13388 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:19:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA08669; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:19:05 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA33636; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:15:19 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA51442 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:13:11 -0800 Received: from bloodgore.uni-bonn.de (robin@rhrz-isdn3-p56.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.225.120]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA13707 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:13:09 -0800 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.uni-bonn.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA11326; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:14:25 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 21 Jan 1998 21:14:25 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Attn ROBIN In-Reply-To: Lea's message of "Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:40:29 -0700 (MST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Lea X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Lea writes: L> Sorry, guys...Robin, could you please e-mail me off-list with your L> working e-mail address. I don't have it, and the sushi one is (of L> course) bouncing. I could, but I won't since several people seem to have had problems with that. My above address is valid and has been for months. Ummm... what do you guys all do with your addressbooks? }:-> Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha This message not brought to you by Microsoft. Inventors of multitasking, windowing, graphical user interfaces, the 32 bit OS, the Internet, the wheel, fire, air, and God. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:19:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA13397 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:19:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA17402; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:19:47 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA12284; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:10:22 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA20350 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:09:32 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA15183 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:09:30 -0800 Received: from toolbox.rutgers.edu (toolbox.rutgers.edu [128.6.134.37]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id MAA08383 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:09:16 -0800 Received: (qmail 10368 invoked by uid 5771); 21 Jan 1998 20:09:04 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:09:03 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: rgaine@nbcs.rutgers.edu Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rick Gaine To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine imap and folders MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: rgaine@toolbox.rutgers.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I know that Pine has the ability to allow for remote mail checking via imap by changing the inbox path to {server}INBOX. My question is, can you set up pine to allow you to check remote servers by selecting another folder? I see this as a useful feature. If this does exist, how do I do it? Rick From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:21:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA13446 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:21:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA17445; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:21:34 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA48320; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:18:52 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA28656 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:17:19 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA16798 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:17:17 -0800 Received: from physics.mcmaster.ca (root@physun.physics.McMaster.CA [130.113.172.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA08597 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:17:11 -0800 Received: from snowdrop.physics.mcmaster.ca (snowdrop [130.113.172.9]) by physics.mcmaster.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA06974; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:17:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by snowdrop.physics.mcmaster.ca via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/911001.SGI) id PAA25838; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:19:30 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:19:29 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Peter G. Sutherland, Dean of Science" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: bug report in Pine 3.96 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: Patricia Monger X-Sender: pgs@snowdrop X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I can save messages to a folder with a name like A&B but Pine won't accept the '&' as part of a folder name in the header-option "Fcc". Peter =========================================================================== Peter G Sutherland | (905) 529-7070 ext. 22616 GSB-114 Dean of Science | (905) 546-9995 FAX Physics & Astronomy | (905) 529-7070 ext. 23189 ABB-317A Hamilton, Ontario | (905) 525-6633 Home Canada L8S 4M1 | pgs@mcmaster.ca =========================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:41:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA13724 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:41:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA17927; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:41:21 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA14967; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:38:00 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA27818 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:37:35 -0800 Received: from bloodgore.uni-bonn.de (rhrz-isdn3-p56.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.225.120]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA19422 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:37:29 -0800 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.uni-bonn.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA11675; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:37:47 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 21 Jan 1998 21:37:46 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: bug report in Pine 3.96 In-Reply-To: "Peter G. Sutherland, Dean of Science"'s message of "Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:19:29 -0500 (EST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Peter G. Sutherland, Dean of Science" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Peter G Sutherland, Dean of Science writes: Hello, Peter G Sutherland, Dean of Science, PGSDoS> I can save messages to a folder with a name like A&B but Pine PGSDoS> won't accept the '&' as part of a folder name in the PGSDoS> header-option "Fcc". Try quotes. Don't use special characters in pathnames. Never. Your signature is too long, and lacks sigdashes "-- ". Robin -- Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept., Bonn University I've got my nose pierced. :-) (Judy Kobza) Shouldn't that be :+) ???? (Frank van der Hulst) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:09:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA14655 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:09:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA18656; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:09:33 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA38464; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:06:46 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA48226 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:04:43 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA15567 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:04:41 -0800 Received: from for-head.sol.com.br ([200.230.157.226]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id NAA09841 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:04:20 -0800 Received: from daniel.mad (ch02m50.for.sol.com.br [200.230.157.111]) by SOL FOR SMTP; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:02:22 -0200 Message-Id: <34C6635C.339@for.sol.com.br> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:06:36 -0300 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Daniel Paraguassú Assumpção To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: How can I get the QL2FAX aplication? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To whom it may concern; I'm writting you 'cause you are the only person I've found on the Internet who has some information about the aplication QL2FAX. I'm having some problems on connecting a freind of mine via The Hyperterminal,and the info I got was that my friend and I must have this aplicattion installed in order the connection to take place. I aprecciate any help of yours; Sincerly; Daniel Assumpção From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:18:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA17956 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:18:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA22072; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:18:06 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA13694; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:14:10 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA11018 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:11:48 -0800 Received: from mg3.rockymtn.net (mailserv.rockymtn.net [166.93.205.13]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA06324 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:11:46 -0800 Received: from plunger.mcguckin.com (plunger.mcguckin.com [206.83.109.3]) by mg3.rockymtn.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA06862 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:11:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from iceaxe.mcguckin.com by plunger.mcguckin.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA56385; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:15:41 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980121161132.00995ac0@206.83.109.3> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:11:32 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Beard To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine with Wyse 50 emulation on AIX 4.2.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Sender: beardj@206.83.109.3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, I know the trick mentioned in the email with the subject:"Pine & Cursor Keys with Wyse50 and Wyse60 terminals" but I am working with AIX v 4.2.1 and it doesn't use termcap; it uses terminfo. I've uncommented the terminfo entry in ./pine/osdep/os-a41.h and it won't work. ( I do have the Wyse terminal definitions installed ) I've tried the -DTERMCAP_WINS hack with termcap support installed; that didn't work. So now I'm looking at a source file called ttyin.c and in it I see some escape sequences for various terminals. So, I'm wondering if there is anybody who could tell me if I add the escape sequences for Wyse 50 here if it would work. I only need the up and down arrow keys to work. Thanks for you time and help. Cheers, Jeff Jeff Beard ________________________________________________________________ Systems Administration McGuckin Hardware 303.443.1832 x646 www.mcguckin.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:36:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA18467 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:36:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA22599; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:36:53 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA15362; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:34:20 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA11220 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:33:51 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA06388 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:33:50 -0800 Received: from Bayou.UH.EDU (st5qs@Bayou.UH.EDU [129.7.1.7]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA13812 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:33:45 -0800 Received: from localhost (st5qs@localhost) by Bayou.UH.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA23558 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:33:43 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:33:43 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: SuperFly !! To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: distribution list question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I created a distribution list using pine, ( an e-mail list). I would like to know if there is anyway i can hide the addresses of the mailing list. So when i send out a list every address is not exposed to the recipients. Is there a hide option I can use ? Any info would be great !! Thanks Chris Sacco From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:44:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA18681 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA22788; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:43:57 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA33924; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:41:26 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA31318 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:40:58 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA07399 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:40:55 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:40:46 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:40:46 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: distribution list question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: SuperFly !! X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, SuperFly !! wrote: > I created a distribution list using pine, ( an e-mail list). I would like > to know if there is anyway i can hide the addresses of the mailing list. > So when i send out a list every address is not exposed to the recipients. > Is there a hide option I can use ? Any info would be great !! Put your cursor in the header area. Type cntrl-r. This brings you to the "rich-headers". Put your cursor on the Lcc: header. Type cntrl-g to read the help on Lcc: Lcc: does what you want. -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce GSM: +65-975-10860 Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:07:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA19289 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:07:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA14680; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:06:56 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA17873; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:04:20 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA31160 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:03:47 -0800 Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.245]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA14842 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:03:43 -0800 Received: from ibm.net (slip-32-100-131-122.fl.us.ibm.net [32.100.131.122]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA25214 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 00:03:41 GMT Message-Id: <34C645D6.47E1AB87@ibm.net> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:01:00 +0000 Reply-To: dg@ulysium.net Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Didier Godefroy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: procmail or slocal? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am trying to decide if I have to install procmail on my system or just use slocal to make auto-responders. The informations I've found so far have been rather cryptic and none mention anything about auto-responders. I'd rather try to get slocal to do it right now since it's already installed and space is a bit limited for now. Could anyone help with some pointers on how to setup slocal to handle auto-responders? -- Didier Godefroy mailto:godefro@ibm.net mailto:dg@ulysium.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:29:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA22708 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:29:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA27522; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:29:27 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA34712; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:26:14 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA38138 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:25:44 -0800 Received: from rwja.UMDNJ.EDU (rwja.UMDNJ.EDU [130.219.4.100]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA04593 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:25:42 -0800 Received: (from green@localhost) by rwja.UMDNJ.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3) id WAA26383; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:25:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:25:25 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Cliff Green To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: distribution list question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edward M Greshko X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Edward M Greshko wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, SuperFly !! wrote: > > > I created a distribution list using pine, ( an e-mail list). I would like > > to know if there is anyway i can hide the addresses of the mailing list. > > So when i send out a list every address is not exposed to the recipients. > > Is there a hide option I can use ? Any info would be great !! > > Put your cursor in the header area. > Type cntrl-r. This brings you to the "rich-headers". > Put your cursor on the Lcc: header. > Type cntrl-g to read the help on Lcc: > > Lcc: does what you want. Or it should. We get the following error and the mail is returned: <--- failed mail follows ---> >From MAILER-DAEMON@umdnj.edu Wed Jan 21 22:05:26 1998 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:55:04 -0500 (EST) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: green@umdnj.edu Subject: Returned mail: List alias test: ;... list:; syntax illegal for recipient addresses The original message was received at Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:55:03 -0500 (EST) from green@localhost ----- The following addresses have delivery notifications ----- List alias test: ; (unrecoverable error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 553 List alias test: ;... list:; syntax illegal for recipient addresses [ Part 2: "Included Message" ] Reporting-MTA: dns; rwja.UMDNJ.EDU Arrival-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:55:03 -0500 (EST) Final-Recipient: RFC822; @rwja.UMDNJ.EDU Action: failed Status: 5.1.3 Last-Attempt-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:55:04 -0500 (EST) [ Part 3: "Included Message" ] [test message munched] <--- failed mail ends ---> SO, my question is the obvious: what are we doing wrong? c -- Clifford Green Internet - green@umdnj.edu Academic Computing Services voice - 732-235-5250 UMDNJ-IST fax - 732-235-5252 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:46:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA23566 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:46:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA28603; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:46:08 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA13968; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:44:22 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA36884 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:41:11 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA10356 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:41:09 -0800 Received: from cmhcsys.com (cmhcsys.cmhcsys.com [207.87.223.39]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA28523 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:41:07 -0800 Received: by cmhcsys.com (8.7.5/1.34) id XAA18724; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 23:42:56 -0500 Received: from localhost by amhsys.alliance4.org (8.6.10/3.1.0) id LAA63880; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:41:36 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:41:36 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mary Cheshaek To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: REPLY TO ALL RECIPIENTS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I would like to know if PINE 3.95 has the capability of setting REPLY TO ALL RECIPIENTS to a default of NO? If so how do I go about setting the default option to NOT reply back to all recipients? Thanks, Mary Cheshaek Information Systems Manager Alliance for Community Care From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:07:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA24391 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:07:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA29737; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:07:33 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA21165; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:05:33 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA51364 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:05:07 -0800 Received: from isc.lf.net (isc.LF.net [194.64.4.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA12797 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:05:05 -0800 Received: by isc.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.95/isc.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remotehost sparclx with uucp for mxu1.u.washington.edu id m0xvFl9-00006kC; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:05:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de(really [192.9.200.142]) by mail.delta-ii.de via sendmail with smtp id for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:04:56 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jul-11) Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA02988; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:05:50 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 22 Jan 1998 07:05:50 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: distribution list question In-Reply-To: Cliff Green's message of "Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:25:25 -0500 (EST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Cliff Green X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >>>On Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:25:25 -0500 (EST), Cliff Green said: Hi, [good comments on Lcc:] CG> Or it should. We get the following error and the mail is CG> returned: CG> <--- failed mail follows ---> >> From MAILER-DAEMON@umdnj.edu Wed Jan 21 22:05:26 1998 CG> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:55:04 -0500 (EST) From: Mail Delivery CG> Subsystem To: green@umdnj.edu Subject: CG> Returned mail: List alias test: ;... list:; syntax illegal for CG> recipient addresses CG> The original message was received at Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:55:03 CG> -0500 (EST) from green@localhost [rest of error message] is it possible that the separator (semicolon, isn't it) is wrong? I've just had a look into the tech-notes: The address field takes one of two forms, depending on whether the entry is a single (simple) address or a distribution list. For a simple entry, the address field is the email-address part of the address, i.e., the part that goes inside the brackets (<>). It is combined with the fullname field to form the complete address. For a distribution list, the
is in the format: "("
,
,
, ... ")" just a guess, norbert. -- Norbert Koch a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:39:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA24627 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA00222; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:39:46 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA22536; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:37:21 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA20332 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:36:59 -0800 Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA11187 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:36:58 -0800 Received: from ellery (D-140-142-189-195.dhcp.washington.edu [140.142.189.195]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.11) with SMTP id WAA05907; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:36:50 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:36:48 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: distribution list question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Cliff Green X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Cliff, Contrary to the message from your MTA, the so-called "group" syntax foo: ; is valid, i.e., is compliant with the standard... but not all MTAs accept it. Two choices: upgrade your MTA or replace the To: address with any conventional (non "group") address. Don't leave the To: field blank or some (other) MTAs will add an "Apparently-To" line for each recipient. -teg On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Cliff Green wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Edward M Greshko wrote: > > Lcc: does what you want. > > Or it should. We get the following error and the mail is returned: > > <--- failed mail follows ---> > > >From MAILER-DAEMON@umdnj.edu Wed Jan 21 22:05:26 1998 > Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:55:04 -0500 (EST) > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > To: green@umdnj.edu > Subject: Returned mail: List alias test: ;... list:; syntax illegal for recipient addresses > > The original message was received at Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:55:03 -0500 (EST) > from green@localhost > > ----- The following addresses have delivery notifications ----- > List alias test: ; (unrecoverable error) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > 553 List alias test: ;... list:; syntax illegal for recipient addresses From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:55:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA24767 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:55:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA00384; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:55:15 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA09104; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:53:12 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA24116 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:52:50 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA14358 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:52:48 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA00306 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 00:51:27 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 00:51:27 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: distribution list question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Norbert Koch >Date: 22 Jan 1998 07:05:50 +0100 >>Returned mail: List alias test: ;... list:; syntax illegal for recipient ^^^ >>addresses >is it possible that the separator (semicolon, isn't it) is wrong? That looks right. ": ;" is a signal to sendmail that addresses that follow should not be placed on the To header. >I've just had a look into the tech-notes: >The address field takes one of two forms, depending on whether the entry is a >single (simple) address or a distribution list. For a simple entry, the >address field is the email-address part of the address, i.e., the part that >goes inside the brackets (<>). It is combined with the fullname field to form >the complete address. For a distribution list, the
is in the format: > "("
,
,
, ... ")" ^ ^ ^ It's the address list itself that must be comma-delimited. But, that has nothing to do with the ": ;" that is placed on the To. 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From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 06:48:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA30405 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 06:48:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA27761; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 06:48:01 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA05666; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 06:44:30 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA43324 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 06:43:23 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA31075 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 06:43:23 -0800 Received: from jp1.vsnl.net.in ([202.54.24.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id GAA06066 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 06:43:18 -0800 Received: by jp1.vsnl.net.in; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/16Jul97-0358PM) id AA25480; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:19:07 GMT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:19:06 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: kasliwal@jp1.vsnl.net.in To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: How Do You? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This system is very user-unfriendly, but I am stuck with it. Please tell me how to attach a WORD file to a message that I am composing? Thanks in advance. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:10:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA30671 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:10:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA28094; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:10:27 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA06640; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:03:34 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA46066 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:03:03 -0800 Received: from isc.lf.net (www.LF.net [194.64.4.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA07859 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:02:58 -0800 Received: by isc.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.95/isc.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remotehost sparclx with uucp for mx3.u.washington.edu id m0xvO9M-000qwxC; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:02:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de(really [192.9.200.142]) by mail.delta-ii.de via sendmail with smtp id for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:02:20 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jul-11) Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA18474; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:03:29 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 22 Jan 1998 16:03:29 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How Do You? In-Reply-To: kasliwal@jp1.vsnl.net.in's message of "Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:19:06 +0000 (GMT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: kasliwal@jp1.vsnl.net.in X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >>>On Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:19:06 +0000 (GMT), kasliwal@jp1.vsnl.net.in said: Hi, k> This system is very user-unfriendly, but I am stuck with it. k> Please tell me how to attach a WORD file to a message that I am k> composing? Thanks in advance. I suppose by system you mean WinBlows XX, because who else would try to attach a WORD document? Anyway, while composing a message, press ctrl-j (attach file) and either enter the name of the file or press ctrl-t (to files) in order to get a directory tree which you can use to search for the file. Btw, the pine online-help is *very* well written and able to answer your question right away, afaik. Also it's a good idea to look for the options, presently given. I hope this is *not* offending and I haven't missed any details. l8er, norbert. -- Norbert Koch a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:16:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA30732 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:16:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA28203; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:16:44 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA23471; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:13:22 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA45986 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:11:28 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA08680 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:11:25 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA05365; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:09:53 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:09:53 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: attaching a file (was: How Do You?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: kasliwal@jp1.vsnl.net.in X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN posted and mailed >From: kasliwal@jp1.vsnl.net.in >Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:19:06 +0000 (GMT) >This system is very user-unfriendly, but I am stuck with it. Try the context-sensitive help. There is a help topic for every function and option, and each header in the composer. Just hit ^g. >Please tell me how to attach a WORD file to a message that I am composing? If you are using Unix pine via a shell account, upload the file to your home directory. Enter the composer, put cursor in headers, ^j and name the file to attach, fill in rest of headers, write an explanation in the body, send message. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:35:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA30899 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:35:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA06902; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:35:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA24263; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:33:18 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA26724 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:32:07 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA10392 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:32:00 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 23:31:31 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 23:31:31 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How Do You? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: kasliwal@jp1.vsnl.net.in X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 22 Jan 1998 kasliwal@jp1.vsnl.net.in wrote: > This system is very user-unfriendly, but I am stuck with it. Please tell > me how to attach a WORD file to a message that I am composing? Thanks in > advance. In addition to the other messages, which were helpful, it should also be pointed out that VSNL has not seen fit to upgrade their version of pine. You are using version 3.91 which is "old". Pine is now at 3.96 which offers the ability to so file uploads and downloads from within pine. IMHO, a lot of the problems are created by VSNL. They are a government run ISP and they give little or no service to their customers.... Regards, -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce GSM: +65-975-10860 Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 08:29:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA31927 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 08:28:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA29687; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 08:28:54 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA26871; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 08:25:03 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA33670 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 08:23:16 -0800 Received: from hotmail.com (liberty9.hotmail.com [207.82.250.172]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id IAA13258 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 08:23:15 -0800 Received: (qmail 13605 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jan 1998 16:23:08 -0000 Received: from 142.60.100.126 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 08:23:07 PST Message-Id: <19980122162308.13604.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 08:23:07 PST Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Tim Mundy" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Take me off the list Content-Type: text/plain X-Originating-IP: [142.60.100.126] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, Please take me off of this list ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:06:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA00381 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:06:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA09237; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:06:34 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA38346; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:03:08 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA25634 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:01:24 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA11615 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:01:24 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (skramer@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id JAA20237; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:01:10 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:01:09 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Stefan Kramer To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Take me off the list In-Reply-To: <19980122162308.13604.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Tim Mundy X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Instructions for subscribing to and unsubscribing from this list can be found at http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/subscribing.html: Send the message: To the address: To be added to Pine-Info: subscribe pine-info YourName listproc@u.washington.edu To be removed from Pine-Info: unsubscribe pine-info listproc@u.washington.edu where YourName is your full name. ------------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu University of Washington Computing & Communications ------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Tim Mundy wrote: > Message-ID: <19980122162308.13604.qmail@hotmail.com> > From: Tim Mundy > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 08:23:07 PST > Subject: Take me off the list > > Hi, > > Please take me off of this list > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:10:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA00419 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:10:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA09320; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:09:58 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA42474; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:07:17 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA50722 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:05:40 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA18900 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:05:39 -0800 Received: from UPIMSRGSMTP08 (upimsrgsmtp08.msn.com [207.68.152.52]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA00873 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:05:36 -0800 Received: from upmajb06 - 204.95.110.89 by msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:05:03 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 98 17:05:22 UT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "james white" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: HELP X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have a mime message in my E-mail and have no idea how to convert it into MS format. I have info re. the decoder ect. however, I have no idea on how to get my hands on it. I do not know how to get the stuff out of ftp.andrew.cmu.edu. When I search the web using that address I get not found. Please help me get on the right track or point me to a place I can. Thanks Jim White From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:23:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA00716 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:23:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA01332; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:23:12 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA14473; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:17:34 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA38456 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:16:42 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA20325 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:16:39 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (skramer@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id JAA20676; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:16:34 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:16:31 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: Stefan Kramer Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Stefan Kramer To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine imap and folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Rick Gaine X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Rick, Go into PINE's FOLDER LIST screen and check the context-sensitive help for it -- see the section on "Valid Folder Names" near the end. One fictitious (so far ;-) example given there for accessing a remote folder other than the INBOX on another server is: {monet.art.nowhere.edu}~/mail/september-1994 ------------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu University of Washington Computing & Communications ------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Rick Gaine wrote: > Message-ID: > From: Rick Gaine > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:09:03 -0500 (EST) > Subject: Pine imap and folders > > > > I know that Pine has the ability to allow for remote mail checking via > imap by changing the inbox path to {server}INBOX. My question is, can > you set up pine to allow you to check remote servers by selecting another > folder? I see this as a useful feature. If this does exist, how do I do > it? > > Rick > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:37:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA00928 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:37:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA10008; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:37:54 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA02674; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:33:58 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA46064 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:31:29 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA23854 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:31:25 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA32610; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:32:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:29:45 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine imap and folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Stefan Kramer X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN well, it's sort of fictitious. I got something like that to work on my machine. I have four email boxes INBOX /var/spool/mail/drachen {mail1.eni.net}abuse {mail1.eni.net}drachen IN.testing /home/drachen/mail/IN.testing It sorta works. It requires much going in and out of pine. I'm working on refining now. -- drachen@eni.net System Administrator Epoch Internet "Connecting The World, One Business At A Time...... By Caring About A Customers Success" abuse@eni.net Spam Patrol On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Stefan Kramer wrote: > Rick, > > Go into PINE's FOLDER LIST screen and check the context-sensitive help for > it -- see the section on "Valid Folder Names" near the end. One fictitious > (so far ;-) example given there for accessing a remote folder other than > the INBOX on another server is: > > {monet.art.nowhere.edu}~/mail/september-1994 > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu > University of Washington Computing & Communications > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Rick Gaine wrote: > > > Message-ID: > > From: Rick Gaine > > To: Pine Discussion Forum > > Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:09:03 -0500 (EST) > > Subject: Pine imap and folders > > > > > > > > I know that Pine has the ability to allow for remote mail checking via > > imap by changing the inbox path to {server}INBOX. My question is, can > > you set up pine to allow you to check remote servers by selecting another > > folder? I see this as a useful feature. If this does exist, how do I do > > it? > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:23:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA03426 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:23:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA12841; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:23:47 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA25239; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:19:34 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA24256 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:18:12 -0800 Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA13227 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:18:07 -0800 Received: from tegdesk_ndc (D-140-142-110-126.dhcp2.washington.edu [140.142.110.126]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.11) with SMTP id LAA14264; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:17:31 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:17:30 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How Do You? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edward M Greshko X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Note also that *PC*-Pine exists and was developed specifically to make it easy to deal with attachments in a windows environment. -teg On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Edward M Greshko wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jan 1998 kasliwal@jp1.vsnl.net.in wrote: > > > This system is very user-unfriendly, but I am stuck with it. Please tell > > me how to attach a WORD file to a message that I am composing? Thanks in > > advance. > > In addition to the other messages, which were helpful, it should also be > pointed out that VSNL has not seen fit to upgrade their version of pine. > You are using version 3.91 which is "old". Pine is now at 3.96 which > offers the ability to so file uploads and downloads from within pine. > > IMHO, a lot of the problems are created by VSNL. They are a government > run ISP and they give little or no service to their customers.... > > Regards, > > -- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > GSM: +65-975-10860 Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:30:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA03493 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:30:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA12946; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:30:27 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA11797; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:26:36 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA32686 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:25:52 -0800 Received: from bloodgore (robin@rhrz-isdn3-p8.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.225.72]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA09179 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:25:48 -0800 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA16704; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:26:15 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 22 Jan 1998 20:26:14 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: HELP In-Reply-To: "james white"'s message of "Thu, 22 Jan 98 17:05:22 UT" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "james white" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > "jw" == james white writes: jw> I have a mime message in my E-mail and have no idea how to convert jw> it into MS format. You're not using pine. What's "MS format"? What are you doing here? jw> I have info re. the decoder ect. however, I have no idea on how to jw> get my hands on it. I do not know how to get the stuff out of jw> ftp.andrew.cmu.edu. When I search the web using that address I jw> get not found. Please help me get on the right track or point me jw> to a place I can. Try the Microsoft hotline. They're brilliant technicians with a very good reputation all over the world. In fact they're about the best makers of software and hotlines there ever were. Where else do you want to go today? Robin -- Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept., Bonn University Robin: You are a rude twit. (Sam Trenholme) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:37:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA03633 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:37:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA13144; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:37:27 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA13912; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:33:32 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA51054 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:32:18 -0800 Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA31163 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:32:18 -0800 Received: from tegdesk_ndc (D-140-142-110-126.dhcp2.washington.edu [140.142.110.126]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.11) with SMTP id LAA14993 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:32:15 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:32:14 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine imap and folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Rick Gaine wrote: > I know that Pine has the ability to allow for remote mail checking via > imap by changing the inbox path to {server}INBOX. My question is, can > you set up pine to allow you to check remote servers by selecting another > folder? I see this as a useful feature. If this does exist, how do I do > it? In addition to previous responses regarding Pine folder collections, you might also want to consider defining multiple *incoming* folders, so that it is easy to check for new mail in them simply by using the TAB command to automatically cycle through them from the INDEX screen. (Pine will stop and open the folder only if there are new/interesting messages in it.) To do this, first, set the "enable-incoming-folders" feature, then use the ADD dialog in the folder collection screen, OR edit your pinerc to have something like: incoming-folders=STATUS {shivams.cac.washington.edu}status, IMAP {shivams.cac.washington.edu}imap, ACAP {shivams.cac.washington.edu/user=gray}acap, PINE-INFO {shivams.cac.washington.edu:145}pine-info, SMIME {shivams.cac.washington.edu:145/user=gray}smime, CompMailPine {shivams.cac:145}{news.u.washington.edu/nntp}#news.comp.mail.pine, Note that in my case above, I have different kinds of messages vectored into different folders on the same server; that's done by a delivery filtering too (e.g. procmail), but you might have different kinds of messages going to different servers... Also note that the last line above assumes the latest UW IMAP server, which will proxy between an IMAP client and an NNTP server. That won't work with earlier UW IMAP servers. -teg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:38:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA03612 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:38:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA04840; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:38:05 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA12602; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:35:08 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA49196 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:32:33 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA06109 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:32:32 -0800 Received: from mallard.duc.auburn.edu (mallard2.duc.auburn.edu [131.204.2.23]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id LAA04687 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:32:28 -0800 Received: from localhost by mallard.duc.auburn.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA13400; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:32:20 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:32:04 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Amanda L Small To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: pine problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: smallal@mallard X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN When I open my inbox, the bottom of my screen reads, ' Error saving configuration in file "/home/duc20/smallal/.pinerc" ' In the middle of composing messages, it reads 'No room for file: Disc quota exceeded' When it usually reads 'Writing Fcc', it reads 'write to "/home/duc20/smallal/dead.letter" FAILED!' My e-mail address is smallal@mail.auburn.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:49:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA22976 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:49:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA13398; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:49:15 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA13714; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:45:33 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA38226 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:43:44 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA32694 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:43:43 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA11539; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:44:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:41:54 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine imap and folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Terry Gray X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN woahwoahwoahwoahwoah did you just imply that you got procmail to work with IMAP? Please tell how. -- drachen@eni.net System Administrator Epoch Internet "Connecting The World, One Business At A Time...... By Caring About A Customers Success" abuse@eni.net Spam Patrol From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:50:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA03894 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:50:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA13426; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:50:48 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA13853; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:46:42 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA32676 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:45:23 -0800 Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [205.252.116.101]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA08040 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:45:21 -0800 Received: from horunltd.erols.com (nova-aaa-092.vni.net [205.177.115.92]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA03795; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:45:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <011a01bd276d$f8d0e480$5c73b1cd@horunltd.erols.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:42:59 -0500 Reply-To: "John Highway Wu" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "John Highway Wu" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pine problem X-To: "Amanda L Small" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN "Disk Quota Exceeded" means that the storage disk that pine normally writes to is currently full, in this case, your account has been filled to capacity. You'll have to delete files that you no longer need to make room for new files. Since your storage disk is filled, you cannot save your configuration file for PINE, and if the Fcc-Folder is set to a file in your directory, you cannot save any files. -----Original Message----- From: Amanda L Small To: Pine Discussion Forum Date: Thursday, January 22, 1998 2:36 PM Subject: pine problem > > >When I open my inbox, the bottom of my screen reads, >' Error saving configuration in file "/home/duc20/smallal/.pinerc" ' > >In the middle of composing messages, it reads 'No room for file: Disc >quota exceeded' > >When it usually reads 'Writing Fcc', it reads 'write to >"/home/duc20/smallal/dead.letter" FAILED!' > >My e-mail address is smallal@mail.auburn.edu > > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:51:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA03902 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:51:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA05150; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:51:40 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA27586; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:42:51 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA24664 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:42:16 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA11221 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:42:02 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA13241; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:42:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:40:13 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pine problem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Amanda L Small X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN there's no room left in your disk quota. delete some stuff or talk to your local system administrator. Vinnie -- drachen@eni.net System Administrator Epoch Internet "Connecting The World, One Business At A Time...... By Caring About A Customers Success" abuse@eni.net Spam Patrol On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Amanda L Small wrote: > > > When I open my inbox, the bottom of my screen reads, > ' Error saving configuration in file "/home/duc20/smallal/.pinerc" ' > > In the middle of composing messages, it reads 'No room for file: Disc > quota exceeded' > > When it usually reads 'Writing Fcc', it reads 'write to > "/home/duc20/smallal/dead.letter" FAILED!' > > My e-mail address is smallal@mail.auburn.edu > > > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:00:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA04096 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:00:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA05405; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:00:55 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA28520; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:57:34 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA40738 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:56:35 -0800 Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA18302 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:56:34 -0800 Received: from tegdesk_ndc (D-140-142-110-126.dhcp2.washington.edu [140.142.110.126]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.11) with SMTP id LAA16213; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:56:28 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:56:27 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine imap and folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Drachen X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Drachen wrote: > woahwoahwoahwoahwoah > > did you just imply that you got procmail to work with IMAP? > > Please tell how. Well, no, I said "e.g. procmail"... that is "for example, procmail". As it happens, I don't use procmail myself (I use a user+folder@foo.bar addressing convention), but I believe many do use procmail successfully with IMAP, and I don't understand what the problem would be FOR SITES THAT PERMIT SHELL OR NFS ACCESS TO THE IMAP SERVER and use the normal Unix mailbox format. For sites that don't meet the above test, the general problem of user-controlled delivery filtering in a black-box, client-server environment is, I think, still unsolved. It's on our local list of email issues, but hasn't gotten much attention yet. I believe some IMAP clients actually do pseudo-delivery filtering when they start up by applying rules to the messages in the INBOX and stuffing them back into different server folders according to those rules. We've resisted going down that path in Pine, because it is obviously less efficient than doing delivery filtering all on the server at the time messages arrive --but the client-based approach is a pragmatic work-around to the lack of any standards or infrastructure for "doing it right". So... could you clarify the problem you are interested in? -teg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:36:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA05253 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:36:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA14571; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:36:48 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA01712; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:30:56 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA17824 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:28:52 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA14249 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:28:50 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA28750; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:29:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:27:11 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine imap and folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Terry Gray X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I was so hoping :) -- drachen@eni.net System Administrator Epoch Internet "Connecting The World, One Business At A Time...... By Caring About A Customers Success" abuse@eni.net Spam Patrol On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Terry Gray wrote: > > On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Drachen wrote: > > > woahwoahwoahwoahwoah > > > > did you just imply that you got procmail to work with IMAP? > > > > Please tell how. > > Well, no, I said "e.g. procmail"... that is "for example, procmail". As > it happens, I don't use procmail myself (I use a user+folder@foo.bar > addressing convention), but I believe many do use procmail successfully > with IMAP, and I don't understand what the problem would be FOR SITES THAT > PERMIT SHELL OR NFS ACCESS TO THE IMAP SERVER and use the normal Unix > mailbox format. > > For sites that don't meet the above test, the general problem of > user-controlled delivery filtering in a black-box, client-server > environment is, I think, still unsolved. It's on our local list of email > issues, but hasn't gotten much attention yet. > > I believe some IMAP clients actually do pseudo-delivery filtering when > they start up by applying rules to the messages in the INBOX and stuffing > them back into different server folders according to those rules. We've > resisted going down that path in Pine, because it is obviously less > efficient than doing delivery filtering all on the server at the time > messages arrive --but the client-based approach is a pragmatic work-around > to the lack of any standards or infrastructure for "doing it right". > > So... could you clarify the problem you are interested in? > > -teg > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:23:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA06280 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:23:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA07423; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:23:25 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA05786; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:18:15 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA30024 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:17:46 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA20349 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:17:45 -0800 Received: from clgrps05.agt.net (clgrps05.agt.net [198.161.156.16]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA15538 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:17:40 -0800 Received: from default ([204.209.204.160]) by mail.telusplanet.net with ESMTP id <269099-17100>; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:16:20 -0700 Message-Id: <98Jan22.141620-0700_mst.269099-17100+293@mail.telusplanet.net> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:16:34 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "greto" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: level 11 doom!!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I don't know if you were the right person to e-mail, but there is fuck all else on the net for the actual doom2 help. I'm in level 11, everythings dead and i've got a key but i dont know how to get on the platform that leads to the exit. If you know get back or just go ahead and be dink and keep it all to yourself? Just kidding, if you dont want to say I guess i'll just keep searching till armageddon From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:44:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA06674 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA16165; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:43:55 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA45556; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:40:09 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA33550 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:37:41 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA22866 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:37:40 -0800 Received: from moose.MHU.K12.CA.US (www.mhu.k12.ca.us [207.82.216.25]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA16027 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:37:37 -0800 Received: from 172.18.18.51 ([172.18.18.51]) by moose.MHU.K12.CA.US (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA23274 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:36:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <34C74D07.6A4@mhu.k12.ca.us> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:43:35 +0600 Reply-To: jknofler@MHU.K12.CA.US Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jewel Knofler To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Bombs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Fill a glass bottle with gas and put a cloth in the neck of the bottle and light it and BOOM!!!!!!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:54:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA06959 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:54:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA16480; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:54:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA24401; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:50:26 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA50216 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:48:39 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA24274 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:48:37 -0800 Received: from ns1.datausa.com (ns1.datausa.com [204.133.158.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA16269 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:48:27 -0800 Received: from localhost (brad@localhost) by ns1.datausa.com (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA04778 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 21:49:24 GMT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:49:24 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Brad To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Inconsistent "Reply to all recipients" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-863658495-1411483946-885502834=:4450" Content-ID: X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---863658495-1411483946-885502834=:4450 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Hey all. I noticed something peculiar today. I run pine on a couple of systems, one on 3.95 and the other on 3.96. Here's an outline of what I did: System Action - 3.96 Sent a message to 3.95. - 3.95 Replied to message (Pine asked to include msg in reply) - 3.96 Replied to reply #1 (Pine asked to include msg & reply to all recipients) - 3.95 Replied to reply #2 (Pine only asked to include msg in reply) - 3.96 Replied to reply #3 (Pine asked to include msg & reply to all recipients) - * Repeat ad-nauseum Looking at the headers, the only thing that I can see different is that the msg sent from the 3.96 system has a "Return-Path" line. I manually added one to the msg sent from 3.95, but it had no effect. System 3.96 is running Sendmail 8.8.4/8.6.12, and the other Sendmail 8.8.4/8.6.1. Notice that on the 3.96 system, pine prompts with a "Reply to all recipients", which I didn't get on the 3.95. Is this one of the "bug fixes" indicated in the rel. notes? Any ideas? Thanks, -Brad ---863658495-1411483946-885502834=:4450-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:21:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA07542 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:21:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA08889; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:21:04 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA09874; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:16:59 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA32930 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:16:30 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA05933 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:16:27 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA09027; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:17:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:14:39 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: level 11 doom!!!! In-Reply-To: <98Jan22.141620-0700_mst.269099-17100+293@mail.telusplanet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: greto X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN this is absolutely the wrong place to email. hmm. I might try going to a good search engine (http://www.webcrawler.com or http://www.yahoo.com ) type in 'doom' and see what comes back. Vinnie (who has never even played doom and therefore knows nothing about it) -- drachen@eni.net System Administrator Epoch Internet "Connecting The World, One Business At A Time...... By Caring About A Customers Success" abuse@eni.net Spam Patrol On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, greto wrote: > I don't know if you were the right person to e-mail, but there is fuck all > else on the net for the actual doom2 help. I'm in level 11, everythings > dead and i've got a key but i dont > know how to get on the platform that leads to the exit. If you know get > back or just go ahead and be dink and keep it all to yourself? Just > kidding, if you dont want to say I guess i'll just keep searching till > armageddon > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:21:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA07586 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:21:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA17145; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:21:47 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA26160; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:19:10 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA50112 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:17:31 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA27856 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:17:30 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA08403; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:18:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:15:49 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Bombs In-Reply-To: <34C74D07.6A4@mhu.k12.ca.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jewel Knofler X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN is there a reason you posted the recipe for a malotov cocktail to a mailing list about pine, a mail user agent? unless there was a really good reason, please don't do it again. -- drachen@eni.net System Administrator Epoch Internet "Connecting The World, One Business At A Time...... By Caring About A Customers Success" abuse@eni.net Spam Patrol On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Jewel Knofler wrote: > Fill a glass bottle with gas and put a cloth in the neck of the bottle > and light it and BOOM!!!!!!! > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:12:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA08715 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:12:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA18371; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:12:48 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA13660; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:10:00 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA50922 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:07:45 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de (rhrz-isdn3-p47.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.225.111]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA12355 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:07:28 -0800 Received: from localhost (robin@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA02467; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 00:08:16 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 00:08:13 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Bombs In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Drachen wrote: > is there a reason you posted the recipe for a malotov cocktail to a > mailing list about pine, a mail user agent? unless there was a really > good reason, please don't do it again. And it's not even a good one... The good ones have diesel and err... actually, I was only checking if my sendmail configuration is ok. Hmmm... Gotta set up Gnus again to mail a complaint to his postmaster. Cheers, Robin P.S. Yes, still robin@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de :-/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:22:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA08978 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:22:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA10412; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:22:10 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA14339; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:17:59 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA34248 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:16:36 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA02998 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:16:34 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA28041; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:17:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:14:53 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Bombs In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN well, it looked like he was mailing from a school account and complaints to his postmaster would most likely get him banned from all the computers in his school, if not kicked out, so I was just going to smack him on the hand this time. I'm too soft head/hearted -- drachen@eni.net System Administrator Epoch Internet "Connecting The World, One Business At A Time...... By Caring About A Customers Success" abuse@eni.net Spam Patrol On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, Robin S. Socha wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Drachen wrote: > > > is there a reason you posted the recipe for a malotov cocktail to a > > mailing list about pine, a mail user agent? unless there was a really > > good reason, please don't do it again. > > And it's not even a good one... The good ones have diesel and err... > actually, I was only checking if my sendmail configuration is ok. Hmmm... > Gotta set up Gnus again to mail a complaint to his postmaster. > > Cheers, > Robin > P.S. Yes, still robin@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de :-/ > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:20:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA10314 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:20:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA11856; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:20:08 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA50776; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:16:10 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA31056 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:15:20 -0800 Received: from UPIMSRGSMTP08 (upimsrgsmtp08.msn.com [207.68.152.52]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA00666 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:15:19 -0800 Received: from upmajb06 - 204.95.110.89 by msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:14:10 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Jan 98 00:15:04 UT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "james white" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: RE: HELP X-To: "james white" , "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN ---------- From: Robin S. Socha Sent: Thursday, January 22, 1998 2:26 PM To: james white Cc: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: HELP > "jw" == james white writes: jw> I have a mime message in my E-mail and have no idea how to convert jw> it into MS format. You're not using pine. What's "MS format"? What are you doing here? jw> I have info re. the decoder ect. however, I have no idea on how to jw> get my hands on it. I do not know how to get the stuff out of jw> ftp.andrew.cmu.edu. When I search the web using that address I jw> get not found. Please help me get on the right track or point me jw> to a place I can. Try the Microsoft hotline. They're brilliant technicians with a very good reputation all over the world. In fact they're about the best makers of software and hotlines there ever were. Where else do you want to go today? Robin -- Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept., Bonn University Robin: You are a rude twit. (Sam Trenholme) I can agree with you Sam. For your information Robin MS is known to stand for Microsoft and I'm using the Works 4.0 application. One thing you should always remember Robin, is that you should not forget you friends on the way up because you will most likely need them on the way down. Thanks for at least responding I'll not trouble you any longer and I'll share your helpfulness with those I know. Jim White From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:49:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA11045 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:49:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA12672; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:49:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA20983; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:46:53 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA29662 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:45:01 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA24470 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:44:56 -0800 Received: from polk.bigbook.com (polk.bigbook.com [206.100.149.71]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id QAA20637 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:44:46 -0800 Received: from polk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by polk.bigbook.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA26428; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 00:44:49 GMT Message-Id: <34C7E801.41C6@bigbook.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:44:49 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Fafarman To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: base64 question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: davef@bigbook.com X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: davef@polk.bigbook.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi. I'm wondering if I can obtain either the source for a base64 to binary converter, or a definition of how base64 is encoded? Thanks ... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:25:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA12082 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:25:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA13595; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:25:24 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA22919; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:19:54 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA50250 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:19:26 -0800 Received: from cwolf.alaska.edu (cwolf.uaa.alaska.edu [137.229.100.202]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA23582 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:19:22 -0800 Received: from UAA.ALASKA.EDU by UAA.ALASKA.EDU (PMDF V5.1-10 #22326) id <01ISOMGR4AR48WZOXB@UAA.ALASKA.EDU> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:18:50 -0900 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:18:50 -0900 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: BRIAN E NISONGER To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: base64 question In-Reply-To: <34C7E801.41C6@bigbook.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: David Fafarman X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN You will need to download a base64 converter they are commonally available on most freeware sites. I had one at one time but I never get that kind of email so I deleted it. By the way this is a FAQ might I recommend that you read it so that you can more quickly have answer any other questions. Brian Nisonger Computer Consultant AXBEN@UAA.ALASKA.EDU "No Dave"- 2001 On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, David Fafarman wrote: > Hi. I'm wondering if I can obtain either the source for a base64 to > binary converter, or a definition of how base64 is encoded? > > Thanks ... > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 18:00:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA01675 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 18:00:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA14204; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:59:58 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA34128; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:56:54 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA51396 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:55:22 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA27234 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:55:19 -0800 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA14115 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:55:15 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:42:37 EST Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: HOWARDSWER To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: MIME conversion Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN When I get mail, it is sometimes in a "multi-part MIME message" fomat. I do not know how to convert it into an excel spreadsheet. I am running excel97. Can someone PLEASE help me? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:29:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA13646 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:29:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA23520; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:29:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA02523; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:26:36 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA32872 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:25:55 -0800 Received: from jp1.vsnl.net.in ([202.54.24.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id TAA18797 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:25:51 -0800 Received: by jp1.vsnl.net.in; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/16Jul97-0358PM) id AA00598; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:00:13 GMT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:00:13 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: kasliwal@jp1.vsnl.net.in To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How Do You? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Norbert Koch X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN That's the way I tried to do it, but the command to go to files takes me to directories on a server somewhere, and will not allow me to specify a file on my own hard disk. So I'm stuck! Would appreciate any other suggestions you may have. By the way, I received a WORD attachment perfectly from another system. On 22 Jan 1998, Norbert Koch wrote: > >>>On Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:19:06 +0000 (GMT), kasliwal@jp1.vsnl.net.in said: > > Hi, > > k> This system is very user-unfriendly, but I am stuck with it. > k> Please tell me how to attach a WORD file to a message that I am > k> composing? Thanks in advance. > > I suppose by system you mean WinBlows XX, because who else would try > to attach a WORD document? > > Anyway, while composing a message, press ctrl-j (attach file) and > either enter the name of the file or press ctrl-t (to files) in order > to get a directory tree which you can use to search for the file. > > Btw, the pine online-help is *very* well written and able to answer > your question right away, afaik. Also it's a good idea to look for the > options, presently given. > > I hope this is *not* offending and I haven't missed any details. > > l8er, norbert. > > -- > Norbert Koch > a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:31:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA13648 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:31:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA23547; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:31:11 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA19350; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:28:47 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA50014 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:27:10 -0800 Received: from jp1.vsnl.net.in ([202.54.24.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id TAA18893 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:27:07 -0800 Received: by jp1.vsnl.net.in; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/16Jul97-0358PM) id AA01158; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:02:46 GMT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:02:45 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: kasliwal@jp1.vsnl.net.in To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: attaching a file (was: How Do You?) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Adam H. Kerman" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN How do I upload a file?. I think the problem is I am not familiar with UNIX systems. The context-sensitive help said that there is no help currently available for attachments. On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > posted and mailed > > >From: kasliwal@jp1.vsnl.net.in > >Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:19:06 +0000 (GMT) > > >This system is very user-unfriendly, but I am stuck with it. > > Try the context-sensitive help. There is a help topic for every function and > option, and each header in the composer. Just hit ^g. > > >Please tell me how to attach a WORD file to a message that I am composing? > > If you are using Unix pine via a shell account, upload the file to your home > directory. Enter the composer, put cursor in headers, ^j and name the file to > attach, fill in rest of headers, write an explanation in the body, send > message. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:37:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA13703 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:37:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA23628; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:36:56 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA19789; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:33:51 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA18860 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:33:25 -0800 Received: from jp1.vsnl.net.in ([202.54.24.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id TAA30303 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:33:21 -0800 Received: by jp1.vsnl.net.in; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/16Jul97-0358PM) id AA00955; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:09:02 GMT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:09:02 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: kasliwal@jp1.vsnl.net.in To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How Do You? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edward M Greshko X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I entirely agree with your views on VSNL. Hopefully, we'll soon have a choice on ISPs in India. Meanwhile, thanks for your inputs. On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Edward M Greshko wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jan 1998 kasliwal@jp1.vsnl.net.in wrote: > > > This system is very user-unfriendly, but I am stuck with it. Please tell > > me how to attach a WORD file to a message that I am composing? Thanks in > > advance. > > In addition to the other messages, which were helpful, it should also be > pointed out that VSNL has not seen fit to upgrade their version of pine. > You are using version 3.91 which is "old". Pine is now at 3.96 which > offers the ability to so file uploads and downloads from within pine. > > IMHO, a lot of the problems are created by VSNL. They are a government > run ISP and they give little or no service to their customers.... > > Regards, > > -- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > GSM: +65-975-10860 Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:41:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA13750 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:41:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA16042; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:41:25 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA20352; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:39:28 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA26324 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:37:46 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA30637 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:37:44 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA14297 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 21:36:24 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 21:36:24 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: RE: HELP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: james white >Date: Fri, 23 Jan 98 00:15:04 UT >>From: Robin S. Socha >> "jw" == james white writes: >>jw> I have a mime message in my E-mail and have no idea how to convert >>jw> it into MS format. >>You're not using pine. What's "MS format"? What are you doing here? >One thing you should always remember Robin, is that you should not forget you >friends on the way up because you will most likely need them on the way down. That doesn't apply to kicking people who have billions more than you do. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:52:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA13877 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:52:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA16206; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:52:44 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA20810; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:49:43 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA25774 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:48:34 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA20405 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:48:32 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA14404 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 21:47:14 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 21:47:14 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: attaching a file In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: kasliwal@jp1.vsnl.net.in >Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:02:45 +0000 (GMT) >How do I upload a file? If Z-Modem is available to you, use that. The sending side always invokes it using "sz" and calling "rz" on the receiving side. You must closely examine the communications program that you use to see what you have available. Kermit is also commonly available, but it's more difficult to use. >The context-sensitive help said that there is no help currently available for >attachments. It sounds like portions of the "help" file are missing. Complain to your system administrator, and ask him to install the current pine, now at 3.96. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:57:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA13908 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:57:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA16249; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:57:07 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA21228; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:54:30 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA29682 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:53:31 -0800 Received: from jp1.vsnl.net.in ([202.54.24.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id TAA31856 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:53:27 -0800 Received: by jp1.vsnl.net.in; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/16Jul97-0358PM) id AA00897; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:17:55 GMT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:17:55 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: kasliwal@jp1.vsnl.net.in To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How Do You? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Norbert Koch X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have also not been able to figure out how to save things on my machine, instead of on the remote system (which seems to be the default)? On 22 Jan 1998, Norbert Koch wrote: > >>>On Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:19:06 +0000 (GMT), kasliwal@jp1.vsnl.net.in said: > > Hi, > > k> This system is very user-unfriendly, but I am stuck with it. > k> Please tell me how to attach a WORD file to a message that I am > k> composing? Thanks in advance. > > I suppose by system you mean WinBlows XX, because who else would try > to attach a WORD document? > > Anyway, while composing a message, press ctrl-j (attach file) and > either enter the name of the file or press ctrl-t (to files) in order > to get a directory tree which you can use to search for the file. > > Btw, the pine online-help is *very* well written and able to answer > your question right away, afaik. Also it's a good idea to look for the > options, presently given. > > I hope this is *not* offending and I haven't missed any details. > > l8er, norbert. > > -- > Norbert Koch > a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 01:11:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA17233 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 01:11:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA27929; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 01:11:03 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA16654; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 01:08:30 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA13964 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 01:07:59 -0800 Received: from out4.ibm.net (out4.ibm.net [165.87.194.239]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA20259 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 01:07:58 -0800 Received: from alpha.computers.org (ssdipola@slip139-92-33-66.lju.si.ibm.net [139.92.33.66]) by out4.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA75214 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:07:46 GMT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 10:10:08 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Errors..... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@alpha.computers.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello !!! When I'm reading mail then I also download mail in the background (cron). And then i get some errors that mailbox is closed because of write errors. I know what this means but is there anyway how to overcome this and not to close your pine every time when pine gets new mail???? Bye. xxxxxx ////// xx xx ( o o ) xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ xxxx | From: Iztok Polanic | xx xx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | xx xx | WWW: http://www2.arnes.si/~ssdipola | xx xx \-----------------------------------------/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:36:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA23664 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:36:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA03998; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:36:17 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA00399; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:31:54 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA28436 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:29:45 -0800 Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.245]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA26907 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:29:34 -0800 Received: from ibm.net (slip-32-100-131-111.fl.us.ibm.net [32.100.131.111]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA65140 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:29:24 GMT Message-Id: <34C87E60.74D15164@ibm.net> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:26:28 +0000 Reply-To: dg@ulysium.net Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Didier Godefroy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: autoresponders MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Has anyone setup autoresponders with slocal? Is it good enough to handle several autoresponders per unix account? -- Didier Godefroy mailto:godefro@ibm.net mailto:dg@ulysium.net http://web.ulysium.net/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 10:10:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA26101 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 10:10:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA06733; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 10:10:52 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA11009; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 10:07:15 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA50054 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 10:05:42 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA23851 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 10:05:41 -0800 Received: from aiu-server.aiu.k12.pa.us (www.lcn.net [192.204.72.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id KAA06568 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 10:05:36 -0800 Received: from [204.171.166.186] [204.171.166.186] by aiu-server.aiu.k12.pa.us (SMTPD32-4.02) id AB874CA00F4; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:03:51 EST Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Jan 98 13:04:09 EST Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: kantorcz@aiu-server.aiu.k12.pa.us (Alex Hindman) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: help, please Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: kantorcz@aiu-server.aiu k12.pa.us (Unverified) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Sir (Madam): We are eighth grade students interested in a career as a sports analyst. Would you be willing to answer a few questions for our career journal? Thank you. Alex Hindman Elizabeth Foward Middle School Elizabeth PA 15037 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 10:28:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA26453 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 10:28:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA29996; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 10:28:50 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA12809; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 10:25:05 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA38362 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 10:22:52 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA11678 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 10:22:51 -0800 Received: from tigger.StCloudState.edu (tigger.StCloudState.edu [199.17.25.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA29839 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 10:22:49 -0800 Received: from TIGGER.STCLOUDSTATE.EDU by TIGGER.STCLOUDSTATE.EDU (PMDF V5.1-9 #27269) id <01ISPSIE9UI0005MTE@TIGGER.STCLOUDSTATE.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:22:45 CST Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:22:44 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: solome02@TIGGER.STCLOUDSTATE.EDU To: "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN hi, I have a problem with my pine e-mail. When I am reading my mail, the control keys at the bottom of the page start mixing with my text. The more I press the down arrow key the more the control lists duplicate and run into my mail. thank you for your help From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:01:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA27816 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:01:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA01889; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:01:00 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA15473; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 10:55:18 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA18754 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 10:54:06 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA30401 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 10:54:05 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA15811; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 10:54:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 10:52:33 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help, please In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Alex Hindman X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN well, I'd love to, but I"m a system administrator. Now my fiance is a system analyst, which is a little closer to sports analyst, but still no cigar. You might try emailing an actual sports analyst, but I don't know where you would find one. Vinnie -- drachen@eni.net System Administrator Epoch Internet "Connecting The World, One Business At A Time...... By Caring About A Customers Success" abuse@eni.net Spam Patrol On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, Alex Hindman wrote: > Dear Sir (Madam): > We are eighth grade students interested in a career as a sports analyst. > Would you be willing to answer a few questions for our career journal? > > Thank you. > > Alex Hindman > Elizabeth Foward Middle School > Elizabeth PA 15037 > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:17:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA28447 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:17:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA02724; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:16:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA16863; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:09:26 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA42094 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:07:03 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA17223 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:07:00 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA21280; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:07:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:05:16 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: solome02@TIGGER.STCLOUDSTATE.EDU X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN it sounds like a terminal problem to me you might try typing (at the prompt, before you go into pine) $TERM=vt100 $export TERM $pine where $ is the prompt this is all case sensitive -- drachen@eni.net System Administrator Epoch Internet "Connecting The World, One Business At A Time...... By Caring About A Customers Success" abuse@eni.net Spam Patrol On Fri, 23 Jan 1998 solome02@TIGGER.STCLOUDSTATE.EDU wrote: > hi, > I have a problem with my pine e-mail. When I am reading my mail, the > control keys at the bottom of the page start mixing with my text. The > more I press the down arrow key the more the control lists duplicate and > run into my mail. > thank you for your help > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:56:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA29197 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:56:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA03977; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:56:21 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA20841; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:50:07 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA32066 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:48:34 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA04874 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:48:30 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA24339 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:47:04 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:47:04 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Drachen >Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:05:16 -0800 (PST) >it sounds like a terminal problem to me >you might try typing (at the prompt, before you go into pine) >$TERM=vt100 >$export TERM >$pine >where $ is the prompt She could be having a terminal emulation problem on her end. She needs to check that first. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:59:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA29387 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:59:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA04071; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:59:52 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA07839; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:52:31 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA47966 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:51:27 -0800 Received: from server1.systemsman.com (server1.systemsman.com [162.142.157.81]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA16271 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:51:18 -0800 Received: from systemsman.com (station-1.systemsman.com [172.16.0.20]) by server1.systemsman.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA24487 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 15:03:12 -0500 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 14:45:01 -0800 Message-Id: <01BD280D.7BDE6420.timd@systemsman.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 14:44:59 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Tim Deranek To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: AddressBook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "'pine-info@u.washington.edu'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN We recently began using pine 3.96 on a linux server for our regional mail. I have compiled group list (all, each office, departments) which our located in /etc/aliases. They work fine but I need to figure out how to link these to each users addressbook. Any suggestions... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:16:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA29899 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:16:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA04488; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:16:33 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA09840; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:12:20 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA46686 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:10:10 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA25143 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:10:08 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA10700; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:10:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:08:08 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Adam H. Kerman" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN true. though my experience is that most telnet clients default to reasonable values, but they don't always seem to communicate them well. but then, mostly I've used crappy MS products, or linux, which normally behaves. Vinnie -- drachen@eni.net System Administrator Epoch Internet "Connecting The World, One Business At A Time...... By Caring About A Customers Success" abuse@eni.net Spam Patrol On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > >From: Drachen > >Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:05:16 -0800 (PST) > > >it sounds like a terminal problem to me > > >you might try typing (at the prompt, before you go into pine) > > >$TERM=vt100 > >$export TERM > >$pine > > >where $ is the prompt > > She could be having a terminal emulation problem on her end. She needs to check > that first. > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:24:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA30077 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:24:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA11437; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:24:28 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA46990; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:20:35 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA47048 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:19:26 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA26338 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:19:25 -0800 Received: from bgnet0.bgsu.edu (bgnet0.bgsu.edu [129.1.2.15]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA04565 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:19:22 -0800 Received: from bgnet2.bgsu.edu (bgnet2.bgsu.edu [129.1.2.7]) by bgnet0.bgsu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA05523 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 15:19:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 15:19:19 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Alicia Goodman To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: folders MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: aliciag@bgnet2.bgsu.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN How do you delete files you once saved messeges in that you no longer want; the folders-how to delete? Thanks for your time! Alicia **************************** the little things in life make it all worth while 9:39pm 01-12-98 ..Al :0) :0) :0) :0) **************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:46:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA32126 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:46:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA13558; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:46:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA29988; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:42:46 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA35754 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:40:55 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de (root@rhrz-isdn3-p14.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.225.78]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA03541 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:40:53 -0800 Received: (from robin@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA04839; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 22:33:57 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 23 Jan 1998 22:33:57 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: folders In-Reply-To: Alicia Goodman's message of "Fri, 23 Jan 1998 15:19:19 -0500 (EST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Alicia Goodman X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "AG" == Alicia Goodman writes: AG> How do you delete files you once saved messeges in that you no AG> longer want; PINE 3.96 FOLDER INDEX Folder: saved-messages Message 1 of 1 1 Jan 23 To: s.teufel@ndh.net (9,404) *argl* *argl* ? Help M Main Menu P PrevMsg - PrevPage D Delete R Reply O OTHER CMDS V [ViewMsg] N NextMsg Spc NextPage U Undelete F Forward Ummm... I wonder what the meaning of "delete" is in English. Upps... it *is* English... You need to eXpunge them after marking for deletion, unless you're set the appropriate feature in the Config. AG> the folders-how to delete? PINE 3.96 FOLDER LIST Folder: saved-messages 1 Message INBOX sent-mail saved-messages archive ? Help M Main Menu P PrevMsg - PrevPage D Delete R Reply O OTHER CMDS V [ViewMsg] N NextMsg Spc NextPage U Undelete F Forward Ummm... I wonder what the meaning of "delete" is in English. Upps... it *is* English... AG> Thanks for your time! Sure. Would you mind correcting your sig according to Internet standards and hitting ^T before sending the next mail? TIA. Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept., Bonn University We call for reinforcements from the friends that we have known But this is the 1990s and we are on our own From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:04:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA02719 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:04:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA10205; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:04:19 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA09765; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:02:12 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA39414 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:00:29 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA03262 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:00:28 -0800 Received: from orion.sfsu.edu (kduchi@orion.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.236]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA10093 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:00:25 -0800 Received: from localhost (kduchi@localhost) by orion.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA03855 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:00:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:00:19 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: KARRA MARIE DUCHI To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: bug? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: kduchi@orion X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN All of my messages were erased, and I would like to find out why. Last time I checked my mail, I chose a few messages to erase, but I did not erase all of them. Please help me!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:22:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA15491 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:22:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA24802; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:22:05 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA17634; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:19:58 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA26014 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:18:56 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA06802 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:18:55 -0800 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA02177 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:18:53 -0800 Received: from DCKoepp@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv12/Dec1997) id 4BHUa21759 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:17:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:17:04 EST Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: DCKoepp@aol.com To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: 2 SMTP servers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am new to the Internet and found out that I need a server(?) in order to be able to receive updates for my programs I have installed. I am on AOL and from what I understand they cannot do this. Is my info correct? Please help and explain what I must do if you can. Thank You! DCKoepp@aol.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:29:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA15530 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:29:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA02319; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:29:26 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA17981; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:27:30 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA45996 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:25:50 -0800 Received: from quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.19]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA07174 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:25:49 -0800 Received: from gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.12]) by quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA17408 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 12:25:45 -0700 Received: from localhost (maldridg@localhost) by gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA51300 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 12:25:45 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 12:25:45 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Lea To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Bombs (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Information List X-Sender: maldridg@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN For everybody's info. Lea ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 10:27:44 -0800 From: Mike Jones To: Lea Subject: Re: Bombs (fwd) We will do so, and thank you for alerting us to the problem. Lea wrote: > Could you please take appropriate action with this user? > > Thank you. > > Lea > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; Helpdesk > maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca > 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) > http://www.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/tutor/Tutorials.html > http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/Wiz/Wizard > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:43:35 +0600 > From: Jewel Knofler > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Bombs > > Fill a glass bottle with gas and put a cloth in the neck of the bottle > and light it and BOOM!!!!!!! -- Michael D. Jones Director, Information Systems MORGAN HILL UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT 15600 Concord Circle Morgan Hill, CA 95037 (408) 779-8309 (408) 776-0258 FAX mjones@do.mhu.k12.ca.us http://www.mhu.k12.ca.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:41:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA15657 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:41:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA02476; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:41:33 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA06079; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:39:02 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA50846 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:38:33 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA11783 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:38:32 -0800 Received: from safetnet.cit.cornell.edu (SAFETNET.CIT.CORNELL.EDU [132.236.172.160]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA02445 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 11:38:30 -0800 Received: from localhost by safetnet.cit.cornell.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.24/16.2) id AA147370699; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:38:19 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:38:19 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Sandy Podulka To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Help Suppressing Distribution List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: Sandy Podulka X-Sender: sgp4@safetnet.cit.cornell.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN We have no local support to turn to for help, so I hope someone can help me. Is there a way to suppress sending the distribution list, in an outgoing message, so the receiver does not have to read the long list of names you sent the message to? Thanks very much. Sandy Podulka sgp4@cornell.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:05:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA16736 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:05:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA04173; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:05:29 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA24698; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:03:05 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA32752 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:01:54 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de (root@rhrz-isdn3-p43.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.225.107]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA19658 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:01:51 -0800 Received: (from robin@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA26138; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 21:15:49 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 24 Jan 1998 21:15:49 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: 2 SMTP servers In-Reply-To: DCKoepp@aol.com's message of "Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:17:04 EST" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: DCKoepp@aol.com X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "D" == DCKoepp writes: D> I am new to the Internet and found out that I need a server(?) in D> order to be able to receive updates for my programs I have D> installed. I am on AOL and from what I understand they cannot do D> this. Is my info correct? No. D> Please help and explain what I must do if you can. You need to contact the AOL support hotline. And you need to read newsgroups like newuser.info and newuser.questions. Robin -- Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept., Bonn University Free Software: Contribute nothing, expect nothing From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:06:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA16871 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:06:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA04182; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:06:03 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA12274; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:04:11 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA25904 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:02:03 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de (root@rhrz-isdn3-p43.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.225.107]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA19670 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:02:00 -0800 Received: (from robin@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA26137; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 21:14:42 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 24 Jan 1998 21:14:41 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Help Suppressing Distribution List In-Reply-To: Sandy Podulka's message of "Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:38:19 -0500 (EST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Sandy Podulka X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> Sandy Podulka writes: SP> We have no local support to turn to for help, so I hope someone SP> can help me. Is there a way to suppress sending the distribution SP> list, in an outgoing message, so the receiver does not have to SP> read the long list of names you sent the message to? Read the User Guide, check for lcc and bcc. That's what you're looking for. Robin -- Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept., Bonn University I've got my nose pierced. :-) (Judy Kobza) Shouldn't that be :+) ???? (Frank van der Hulst) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 17:43:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA18458 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 17:43:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA06565; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 17:43:43 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA21327; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 17:41:18 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA32392 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 17:40:03 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA26072 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 17:40:02 -0800 Received: from tor-smtp2.netcom.ca (tor-smtp2.netcom.ca [207.93.1.168]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA29118 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 17:39:59 -0800 Received: from trt-on7-10.netcom.ca (trt-on7-10.netcom.ca [207.181.82.138]) by tor-smtp2.netcom.ca (8.8.7-s-4/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA25982 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:39:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <34CAC175.32F6@netcom.ca> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:37:09 -0800 Reply-To: aroytman@netcom.ca Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Alex Roytman To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: BinHex 4.0 for Win'95! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am looking for BinHex 4.0 mail decoding program too. However, all references that I could find on Internet are for Unix and Mac users only. So what am I to do if I'm using Windows 95 and just received an e-mail that starts with a line that looks like that "Must be converted through BinHex 4.0". Thank you in advance. Eugene Roitman From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 18:59:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA18905 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 18:59:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA07412; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 18:59:44 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA06843; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 18:57:42 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA48810 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 18:57:24 -0800 Received: from cyber8.shinbiro.com (cyber8.shinbiro.com [202.30.143.20]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA29716 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 18:57:23 -0800 Received: from shinbiro.com.shinbiro.com (p42.seoul1_1.shinbiro.com [203.240.128.42]) by cyber8.shinbiro.com (8.8.5H1/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA09274 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 11:56:16 +0900 (KST) Message-Id: <34CAA8A2.264D@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 11:51:14 +0900 Reply-To: Kim@postoffice.worldnet.att.net Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ted Mims To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: panasonic kx-p2123 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN i am looking for the manual how to feed the paper. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:29:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA15008 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:29:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA08289; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:29:52 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA10518; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:27:40 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA44122 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:27:08 -0800 Received: from mole.slip.net (mole.slip.net [207.171.193.16]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id UAA01030 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:27:07 -0800 Received: from slip-3.slip.net [207.171.193.17] (batchman) by mole.slip.net with smtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 0xwJex-00057Y-00; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:27:04 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:27:03 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shoeless in San Jose To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Bombs In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: batchman@slip-3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Batchman salutes Lea's efforts to stamp out stupidity on the Internet. Good job. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:51:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA21038 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:51:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA10362; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:51:19 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA18251; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:49:25 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA44210 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:48:54 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA23704 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:48:53 -0800 Received: from sophia.pacific.net.sg (sophia.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.81]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA10337 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:48:49 -0800 Received: from pop1.pacific.net.sg (pop1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.85]) by sophia.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id PAA07685 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:49:08 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pacific.net.sg (dyn88ppp177.pacific.net.sg [210.24.88.177]) by pop1.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id PAA07206 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:48:46 +0800 (SGT) Message-Id: <34CAF077.A6D9919A@pacific.net.sg> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:57:43 +0800 Reply-To: gbchia@pacific.net.sg Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Benny To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: hello! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN hello! 25 yr old man, just wondering whether u have acquired the infomation u wanted on how to make explosive without plutonium or chemicals? if u have, pls let me know cos i'm interested also! :) thanks gerald From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 00:29:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA21307 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 00:29:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA10768; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 00:29:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id AAA08782; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 00:27:36 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA17256 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 00:27:12 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de (root@rhrz-isdn3-p27.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.225.91]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA10255 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 00:27:10 -0800 Received: (from robin@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05461; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 08:27:50 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 25 Jan 1998 08:27:50 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: panasonic kx-p2123 In-Reply-To: Ted Mims's message of "Sun, 25 Jan 1998 11:51:14 +0900" References: <34CAA8A2.264D@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> Ted Mims writes: TM> i am looking for the manual how to feed the paper. Could some native speaker tell me that this is a joke, please? Robin - puzzled -- Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept., Bonn University Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:05:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA21736 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:05:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA11242; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:05:24 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA09804; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:02:28 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA42406 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:01:51 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA00840 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:01:50 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA35700; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 09:00:05 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:00:05 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: panasonic kx-p2123 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Robin, Few can dispute the fact that this place is increasingly inhabited by morons. Your puzzlement is noted, but your exquisite command of the English language is not called into question. I think this falls into the category of "RTFPM" (Read the fearsome printer manual) and also learn the lingua franca of the Internet....ENGLISH!!! (and I freely confess that it's not an ideal standard) Let's face it, Gerald is linguistically challenged, and has little interest in the printed material which was supplied to him (in his own language, no less) which would cause him to be able to operate his machinery! Auf Wiedersehn Mein Freund! -Colin. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:26:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA21989 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:26:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA04299; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:26:40 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA21580; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:24:59 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA26860 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:24:34 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA28124 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:24:32 -0800 Received: from linux.xlri.ac.in (aabhave@[206.101.167.228]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA04272 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:24:26 -0800 Received: from localhost (aabhave@localhost) by linux.xlri.ac.in (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA02810 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 14:55:21 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 14:55:19 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Amit Bhave To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: transfer of messages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN hi, i have made several folders in my login (apart from the usual ones like inbox, sent mail etc.) and would like to transfer certain messages to these folders. could you tell me how to go about doing this using pine ? thanks, amit bhave (xlri - jamshedpur, india) _____ (~._.~) ( Y ) ()_*_() (_)-(_) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:37:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA22394 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:37:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA04419; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:36:56 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA22046; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:34:59 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA26076 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:34:46 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de (root@rhrz-isdn3-p20.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.225.84]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA14304 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:34:44 -0800 Received: (from robin@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05728; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 10:18:07 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 25 Jan 1998 10:18:07 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: hello! In-Reply-To: Benny's message of "Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:57:43 +0800" References: <34CAF077.A6D9919A@pacific.net.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: gbchia@pacific.net.sg X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> Benny writes: B> hello! No. B> 25 yr old man, No. B> just wondering whether u have acquired the infomation u wanted on B> how to make explosive without plutonium or chemicals? Yes. You take a 25 yr old idiot, fill it with bio-gas and put it on fire. According to recent studies by friends of the enviroment, bio-gas is not a chemical, because it's natural. B> if u have, pls let me know cos i'm interested also! Thank you very much for your valuable input. No, please go back to Mummy before I have to send you some information about XFree 3, ok? Robin "whyaretheresomemanyidiotsonthislist" Robin -- Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept., Bonn University Score another place on the universal shit-list, for the morons in Redmond. (PhlaXioR) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 02:09:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA23147 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 02:09:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA04762; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 02:09:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA11618; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 02:06:44 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA26044 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 02:06:23 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de (root@rhrz-isdn3-p21.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.225.85]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA29307 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 02:06:21 -0800 Received: (from robin@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05946; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 10:57:05 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 25 Jan 1998 10:57:05 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: transfer of messages In-Reply-To: Amit Bhave's message of "Sun, 25 Jan 1998 14:55:19 +0000 (GMT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Amit Bhave X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: Robin X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ X-plonked-by: Jost Boekemeier X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> Amit Bhave writes: AB> hi, i have made several folders in my login (apart from the usual AB> ones like inbox, sent mail etc.) and would like to transfer AB> certain messages to these folders. could you tell me how to go AB> about doing this using pine ? thanks, Dear Amit, I'm going to London for a month, which is why I'm in a fairly good mood... otherwise my answer would have been a bit shorter and would have contained language unsuitable for children, because your question is a VFAQ. }:-> The answer to your question is in the Pine FAQ, which can be found on the Pine website, and should also be on your system. You will find a pointer to Nancy McGough's filtering mail FAQ, which is a brilliant document and will answer all your questions. The short answer is "man procmail", "man procmailex". Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept., Bonn University main(){printf(&unix["\021%six\012\0"],(unix)["have"]+"fun"-0x60);} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 03:04:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA23979 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 03:04:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA05336; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 03:04:01 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA23481; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 03:01:50 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA25932 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 03:00:08 -0800 Received: from shivax.cac.washington.edu (shivax.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.4]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA00833 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 03:00:07 -0800 Received: (from skramer@localhost) by shivax.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) id DAA07117 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 03:00:06 -0800 Message-Id: <199801251100.DAA07117@shivax.cac.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 03:00:06 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: pine-robot@docserver.cac.washington.edu To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: WHERE TO FIND INFORMATION ABOUT PINE X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is being sent to this mailing list weekly in order to aid readers in finding information about Pine. 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Sun Jan 25 03:00:06 PST 1998 ----------------------------------- Pine development and support team University of Washington Computing & Communications ----------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 09:43:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA27889 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 09:43:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA16866; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 09:43:41 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA02818; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 09:39:54 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA37228 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 09:39:22 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA07093 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 09:39:19 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA19545 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 11:37:48 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 11:37:47 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: panasonic kx-p2123 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: "Robin S. Socha" >Date: 25 Jan 1998 08:27:50 +0100 >>> Ted Mims writes: >TM> i am looking for the manual how to feed the paper. >Could some native speaker tell me that this is a joke, please? >Robin - puzzled Well, paper comes from trees. And trees eat celebrity Alpine skiers. Feed your paper a skier. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 10:50:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA28481 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 10:50:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA10602; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 10:50:44 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA25292; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 10:48:08 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA51286 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 10:47:14 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA18530 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 10:47:14 -0800 Received: from giasdla.vsnl.net.in (giasdlb.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.162]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id KAA10563 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 10:47:08 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasdla.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id AAA18185; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:17:12 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:17:09 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Dhananjay Shrikhande To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: problem with eudora light-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: dhananj@giasdlb X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN while sending the mail through eudora i am getting a error message as "eudora is tired of waiting for the system to respond.press ok if you wish to continue waiting or cancel otherwise." i feel there is some problem with serial.mod file . please send me the file if u have it. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 12:18:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA29049 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 12:18:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA11663; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 12:18:19 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA29868; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 12:16:08 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA26772 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 12:15:09 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA01514 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 12:15:09 -0800 Received: from mailroom.iamerica.net (mailroom.iamerica.net [207.101.121.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA18571 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 12:15:07 -0800 Received: from default (iax-morgancity-ppp0126.iamerica.net [207.101.34.148]) by mailroom.iamerica.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA27216 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 14:15:04 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <34CB8EC8.4ABB@iamerica.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 14:13:12 -0500 Reply-To: lilq@iamerica.net Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: bslq To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: HELP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN How do I get a second e-mail address on my computer? I want to separate my mail from the mail of others in my household. Help! Help! Help! -tasha From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 14:08:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA30066 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 14:08:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA19994; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 14:08:02 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA15512; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 14:05:41 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA17394 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 14:05:01 -0800 Received: from aurora.alaska.edu (fscjw1@aurora.alaska.edu [137.229.18.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id OAA28145 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 14:04:58 -0800 Received: from localhost by aurora.alaska.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/22Mar97-0141PM) id AA06477; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 13:04:54 -0900 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 13:04:54 -0900 (AKST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Calaya J Williams To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am a new student to Pine. I have a Euroda Pro that I have been using for awhile. I want to use Eudora for ruch messages until I get familiar with Pine. I have just discovered that if I retrieve my mail thru Eudora it erases/deletes my mail in my Pine account. What can I do to prevent this? Thanks, calaya From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:38:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA30692 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:38:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA21081; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:37:59 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA37370; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:36:00 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA50146 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:35:11 -0800 Received: from yakko.chicks.net (chicks@yakko.chicks.net [205.166.143.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA15109 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 15:35:09 -0800 Received: from localhost (chicks@localhost) by yakko.chicks.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA08036 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 18:35:04 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 18:35:04 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Christopher Hicks To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: setting flags via procmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Information List X-Authentication-Warning: yakko.chicks.net: chicks owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Does anyone have a procmail formula that will allow flags to be set for pine? I'd like to flag certain messages as important in pine for mailing lists. In my case I'm going to be doing it based on the From address. [I know this isn't purely a pine question, but it isn't purely a procmail question either.] 63.Thou shalt not employ cheese as a means of sexual arousal. -http://www.mindworkshop.com/alchemy/command.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 18:20:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA32017 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 18:20:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA23021; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 18:20:14 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA27601; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 18:18:33 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA36478 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 18:17:54 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA15498 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 18:17:53 -0800 Received: from mailhost.cas.utk.edu (MAILHOST.CAS.UTK.EDU [128.169.76.44]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA15719 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 18:17:48 -0800 Received: from UTKUX1.UTK.EDU by mailhost.cas.utk.edu with SMTP (8.8.7/mailhost.utk) id VAA18490; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 21:17:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 21:17:29 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Erin Kahler To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: help! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: ekahler@UTKUX1.UTK.EDU X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I need to print files to my local PC printer, but cannot find the commands to accomplish this. Can you please help? Sincerely, Erin Kahler ekahler@utk.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 22:24:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA01133 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 22:24:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA25832; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 22:24:18 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA28031; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 22:22:31 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA37864 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 22:22:02 -0800 Received: from isc.lf.net (isc.LF.net [194.64.4.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA22752 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 22:21:59 -0800 Received: by isc.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.95/isc.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remotehost sparclx with uucp for mx3.u.washington.edu id m0xwhvS-00001DC; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 07:21:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de(really [192.9.200.142]) by mail.delta-ii.de via sendmail with smtp id for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 07:21:24 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jul-11) Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA21093; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 07:23:19 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 26 Jan 1998 07:23:18 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help In-Reply-To: Calaya J Williams's message of "Sun, 25 Jan 1998 13:04:54 -0900 (AKST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Calaya J Williams X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >>>On Sun, 25 Jan 1998 13:04:54 -0900 (AKST), Calaya J Williams said: CJW> I am a new student to Pine. I have a Euroda Pro that I have been CJW> using for awhile. I want to use Eudora for ruch messages until I CJW> get familiar with Pine. I have just discovered that if I CJW> retrieve my mail thru Eudora it erases/deletes my mail in my CJW> Pine account. What can I do to prevent this? Thanks, calaya Hmmm, not basicly pine ... have you set 'delete mail on server' in Eudora. You should disable this or, instead, enable 'leave mail on server' (or something alike ... don't know the setup-variables). Then, imo, you should be able to see the mails in pine, even after accessing them via Eudora. hth, norbert. -- Norbert Koch a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 01:05:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA02561 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 01:05:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA20385; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 01:05:21 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA03083; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 01:02:46 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA24526 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 01:02:14 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA18519 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 01:02:09 -0800 Received: from fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (6782@fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.7]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA27783 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 01:02:06 -0800 Received: from localhost (brewhaha@localhost) by fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA28278 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 02:02:04 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 02:02:04 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Raja Brewhaha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Newsreading MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I use Pine 3.95 on an IBM AS??? under AIX and Lynx. I like the newsreading of Pine MOSTLY, and it competes against Tin, so I seldom use it for the following reasons: 1) Newsgroups hav no descriptions to the right...not a big plus but. 2) NGs hav no unread messages number beside them. 3) You CAN and Tin does keep track of exactly which messages in which groups hav been read in the newsrc file. Within Tin's newsrc file are read messages number ranges, like this: alt.security.pgp: 1-50, 100-120, 500-575 4) When I configure Pine for two newservers, it uses the same newsrc file for both, and the servers hav NOT the same newsgroups. 5) Every time I change the newsgroups a message is to be posted in, Pine checks them for validity, and takes its time doing it (more time than a failed post). Why not just let the post "fail"? It might not fail completely: if the NGs don't exist, only that part of the post fails. I think that's how Tin works. 6) There's no NG post cancellation feature: You can put the "control: cancel" header in yourself, and it's not a one key operation. --BrewJay From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 07:18:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA07592 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 07:18:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA25036; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 07:18:44 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA23573; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 07:15:09 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA23952 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 07:14:29 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA16739 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 07:14:24 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:14:16 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:14:16 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: transfer of messages In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 25 Jan 1998, Robin S. Socha wrote: > I'm going to London for a month, which is why I'm in a fairly good > mood... I was to London for a month one week. I'm not certain that going there will help your disposition at all. Or, maybe, it is just the prospect of being let out of where your are now which helps? :-) Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce GSM: +65-975-10860 Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:21:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA08430 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:21:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA03830; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:21:49 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA18400; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:18:32 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA42320 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:17:26 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA22730 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:17:24 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA13151; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:18:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:15:41 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: HELP In-Reply-To: <34CB8EC8.4ABB@iamerica.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: bslq X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN A. get a second email address at your isp or through hotmail or juno or one of the other places that offer free email. B. set up a mua to get your mail. if you choose pine, then we can probably help you with that, if not, then you'll have to find an appropriate place to ask questions about your mua. Vinnie -- drachen@eni.net System Administrator Epoch Internet "Connecting The World, One Business At A Time...... By Caring About A Customers Success" abuse@eni.net Spam Patrol On Sun, 25 Jan 1998, bslq wrote: > How do I get a second e-mail address on my computer? I want to separate > my mail from the mail of others in my household. Help! Help! Help! > -tasha > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:22:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA07596 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:22:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA03852; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:22:19 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA18323; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:18:01 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA44236 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:17:14 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA02089 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:17:08 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA12515; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:16:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:14:06 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: transfer of messages In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Amit Bhave X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN if you mean you want them saved automatically, then listen to what robin said about procmail if you want to save them by hand (ie. read one and then save it to whichever folder you feel is pertanent) then while reading the message type the foldernames are case sensitive vinnie -- drachen@eni.net System Administrator Epoch Internet "Connecting The World, One Business At A Time...... By Caring About A Customers Success" abuse@eni.net Spam Patrol On Sun, 25 Jan 1998, Amit Bhave wrote: > hi, > i have made several folders in my login (apart from the usual ones like > inbox, sent mail etc.) and would like to transfer certain messages to > these folders. could you tell me how to go about doing this using pine ? > thanks, > > amit bhave > (xlri - jamshedpur, india) > > _____ > (~._.~) > ( Y ) > ()_*_() > (_)-(_) > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:22:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA08443 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:22:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA26194; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:22:43 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA18588; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:19:20 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA47596 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:17:44 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA06682 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:17:43 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA13184; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:18:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:15:51 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Erin Kahler X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN in pine, that is. -- drachen@eni.net System Administrator Epoch Internet "Connecting The World, One Business At A Time...... By Caring About A Customers Success" abuse@eni.net Spam Patrol On Sun, 25 Jan 1998, Erin Kahler wrote: > > I need to print files to my local PC printer, but cannot find the commands > to accomplish this. Can you please help? > > Sincerely, > > Erin Kahler > ekahler@utk.edu > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 10:25:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA11632 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 10:25:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA29522; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 10:25:36 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA20416; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 10:23:00 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA33900 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 10:22:11 -0800 Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.154]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id KAA16026 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 10:22:10 -0800 Received: from crinformation.demon.co.uk ([194.222.219.165]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa1021293; 26 Jan 98 16:59 GMT Message-Id: <885833983.1021293.0@crinformation.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 16:42:47 -0000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Erin Kahler , Pine Discussion Forum X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Read the FAQ which can be found on the Pine website. Robin @britisch kezboards suck@ Socha -- My header is probably broken. My reply address is robin@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 11:46:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA13723 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 11:46:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA01667; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 11:46:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA07590; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 11:43:18 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA27790 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 11:41:40 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA28948 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 11:41:38 -0800 Received: from river.netrover.com (river.netrover.com [204.50.56.9]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA01485 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 11:41:03 -0800 Received: from default (wnd1-34.netrover.com [209.135.67.34]) by river.netrover.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA27974 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 14:33:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199801261933.OAA27974@river.netrover.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 14:29:41 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "rayw" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN i can not help you but i know some people that can ca 1 800 compters ] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 13:49:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA16929 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 13:49:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA05087; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 13:49:41 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA29836; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 13:46:35 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA10148 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 13:45:15 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA22736 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 13:45:14 -0800 Received: from sardonyx.tufts.edu (root@sardonyx.tufts.edu [130.64.5.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA04983 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 13:45:11 -0800 Received: from Senthuran (st1725.tc.tufts.edu [130.64.134.91]) by sardonyx.tufts.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA01856 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 16:45:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 16:45:03 -0500 () Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Senthuran Siva To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: report bug MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-X-Sender: ssiva@emerald.tufts.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am sophomore at Tufts University and have recently been experiencing problems with my e-mail account. For some reason, next to the word inbox are the words "READONLY" which are in parentheses. Also, read messages are no longer automatically transferred to my saved messages folder when I exit pine. Please get back to me as to how I can rectify this situation. Sincerely, Senthuran Siva From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:46:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA25134 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:46:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA22385; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:46:29 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA19822; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:44:25 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA46408 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:43:28 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA29400 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:43:26 -0800 Received: from ad1.vsnl.net.in (ad1.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.114]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id VAA22337 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:43:21 -0800 Received: from solmac.ad1.vsnl.net.in by ad1.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA07211; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:32:17 +0530 Message-Id: <34C59FE2.6BE4@ad1.vsnl.net.in> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:42:34 +0530 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: solmac To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: ms-tnef attachment MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: gtb@sgs.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello , We can not read the ms-tnef attachment. Pls tell us something in this area. Regards, Solmac Pvt. Ltd, India. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:09:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA25721 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:09:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA15346; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:09:34 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA27406; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:07:23 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA20434 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:06:45 -0800 Received: from isc.lf.net (isc.LF.net [194.64.4.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA20090 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:06:42 -0800 Received: by isc.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.95/isc.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remotehost sparclx with uucp for mxu1.u.washington.edu id m0xx4AQ-00002DC; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 07:06:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de(really [192.9.200.142]) by mail.delta-ii.de via sendmail with smtp id for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 07:06:30 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jul-11) Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA22422; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 07:08:31 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 27 Jan 1998 07:08:30 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: report bug In-Reply-To: Senthuran Siva's message of "Mon, 26 Jan 1998 16:45:03 -0500 ()" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Senthuran Siva X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >>>On Mon, 26 Jan 1998 16:45:03 -0500 (), Senthuran Siva said: SS> I am sophomore at Tufts University and have recently been SS> experiencing problems with my e-mail account. For some reason, SS> next to the word inbox are the words "READONLY" which are in SS> parentheses. Also, read messages are no longer automatically SS> transferred to my saved messages folder when I exit pine. Please SS> get back to me as to how I can rectify this situation. Hmm, READONLY is exactly what we would think of: you have only read permission on your inbox file. This is why messages aren't transferred, as I understand it, because this includes, afaik, a delete operation on the inbox file. Inbox is set READONLY by pine, if another process is locking the file. Therefore, look whether another pine process (or any other mua pointing to the same file) is still running (task manager ...) or check lock files that might have been left because of an unwanted (:-)) exit from pine. And then, I don't know much about WinNT and it's early in the morning, ie my answer might be a complete mess. l8er, norbert. -- Norbert Koch a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:49:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA02415 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:49:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA25684; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:49:32 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA04397; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:46:11 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA20270 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:42:52 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA22671 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:42:51 -0800 Received: from www.CIRC.gwu.EDU (www.circ.gwu.edu [128.164.127.251]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA03079 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:42:49 -0800 Received: from gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (dfuller@gwis2 [128.164.127.252]) by www.CIRC.gwu.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA27058 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:36:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (dfuller@localhost) by gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA28713 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:42:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:42:43 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Douglas O. Fuller" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Technical questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN How do I auto forward messages to another email address using Pine? And, can I write a message that all senders will receive that informs them I'm temporarily unable to access my GWIS2 account? Sincerely, D.O. Fuller ************************************* Douglas Fuller Assistant Professor Department of Geography The George Washington University Washington, DC 20052 Tel: 202-994-8073 Fax: 202-994-2482 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:26:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA04244 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:26:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA28337; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:26:07 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA12737; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:21:46 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA50062 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:15:59 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA08630 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:15:58 -0800 Received: from relay7.UU.NET (relay7.UU.NET [192.48.96.17]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA05608 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:15:56 -0800 Received: from rvcc by relay7.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: rvcc.raritanval.edu [192.231.207.108]) id QQeaef18280; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:15:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by rvcc (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA11873; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:10:45 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:10:44 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Arlene MacLennan To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: text display MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN My display is set for the "US-ASCII" character set. When I receive email in the "ISO-8859-1" character set some of the characters are displayed incorrectly. Is there a way I can set my display to read both sets of characters correctly? Thank you for any suggestions Arlene From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:07:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA09232 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:07:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA11681; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:07:14 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA24989; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:03:29 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA37468 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:00:20 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA19806 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:00:15 -0800 Received: from bconnex.net (bconnex.net [205.189.200.9]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA03958 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:00:02 -0800 Received: from shamer.bconnex.net (iah11-222.orillia.connex.net [206.186.216.222]) by bconnex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA08813 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:56:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <34CD154D.5703@bconnex.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 17:59:25 -0500 Reply-To: shamer@bconnex.net Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Hamer To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN How do i get Base64 can it be downloaded in if yes where? Please reply!! Thank you Steve From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:25:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA10641 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:25:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA06035; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:25:44 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA00888; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:22:59 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA38486 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:20:50 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA02287 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:20:46 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA27982 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:19:29 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:19:29 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: transfer of messages In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: vinnie >the foldernames are case sensitive So am I. Would you both please capitalize the first words of your sentences? >On Sun, 25 Jan 1998, Amit Bhave wrote: >>i have made several folders in my login (apart from the usual ones like >>inbox, sent mail etc.) and would like to transfer certain messages to these >>folders. could you tell me how to go about doing this using pine? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:55:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA13856 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:55:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA17502; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:55:00 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA19300; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:51:47 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA50424 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:50:19 -0800 Received: from diamond.sunset.net (fae@[205.138.253.252]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA12244 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:50:18 -0800 Received: from localhost (fae@localhost) by diamond.sunset.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA11530 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:52:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:52:57 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Frank Erridge To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Typos in E-mail text. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Can you please help me in my quest for answers ? All of my E-mail has what looks like typos scattered though out each message, sometimes a couple of words will be repeated. I have yet to find anyone including the servers people who can explain what is wrong. I am using MS DOS and Pine 3.95, no problems with reception and the DOS does fine, I have WINDOWS 3.11 but as yet have not mastered any of this so I stay with DOS until I can find someone to help me with it. The phone company tells me that the line from the central office is clean so I am not sure what the next move is. Thankyou for any advice you can give to resolve this problem. No one else has this typo problem. Computer illiterate, yes I admit it. Best Regards, fae@diamond.sunset.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:07:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA14065 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:07:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA10423; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:07:12 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA15049; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:05:02 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA11256 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:03:38 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA14197 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:03:36 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA30651; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:02:17 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:02:17 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Typos in E-mail text. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Frank Erridge X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Frank Erridge >Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:52:57 -0800 (PST) >Can you please help me in my quest for answers ? All of my E-mail has what >looks like typos scattered though out each message, sometimes a couple of >words will be repeated. Turn off local echo in your terminal emulation. The only characters you want to see on your console are those sent back from the computer you've logged on to. If you echo those characters locally, you see them twice. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:04:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA14244 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:04:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA18607; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:04:31 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA18041; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:02:25 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA34592 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:01:17 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA12060 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:01:16 -0800 Received: from student3.netserv.chula.ac.th (a5244330@student3.netserv.chula.ac.th [161.200.192.11]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA18565 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:01:06 -0800 Received: from localhost (a5244330@localhost) by student3.netserv.chula.ac.th (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA23685 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 12:02:00 +0700 (GMT+0700) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 12:02:00 +0700 (GMT+0700) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Worawit Chaipornjareansri To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Have problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Authentication-Warning: student3.netserv.chula.ac.th: a5244330 owned process doing -bs X-Sender: a5244330@student3.netserv.chula.ac.th X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear The Pine Team , I have some problem about the using PINE. Several month,I have delete the soc.culture.thai in News-collection (News onnews.netserv. chula.ac.th). I try to create this icon. I failed several time. You have method to suggest me? Sincerely yours, Worawit Chaipornjareansri. Student in Chulalongkorn University E-mail:a5244330@student3.netserv.chula.ac.th From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:06:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA15670 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:06:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA12244; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:06:46 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA25500; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:05:03 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA16934 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:02:58 -0800 Received: from isc.lf.net (isc.LF.net [194.64.4.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA02248 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:02:53 -0800 Received: by isc.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.95/isc.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remotehost sparclx with uucp for mxu2.u.washington.edu id m0xxQaH-000qwcC; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 07:02:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de(really [192.9.200.142]) by mail.delta-ii.de via sendmail with smtp id for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 07:02:09 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jul-11) Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA24071; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 07:04:20 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 28 Jan 1998 07:04:20 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Technical questions In-Reply-To: "Douglas O. Fuller"'s message of "Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:42:43 -0500 (EST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Douglas O. Fuller" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >>>On Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:42:43 -0500 (EST), "Douglas O. Fuller" said: DOF> How do I auto forward messages to another email address using DOF> Pine? Afaik, you can't do it in pine but you may put a file called '.forward' into your home directory with your new address as content: echo "new-name@new-domain" > $HOME/.forward DOF> And, can I write a message that all senders will receive that DOF> informs them I'm temporarily unable to access my GWIS2 account? Not with pine again. Try 'man vacation' and use it, if it's available or get a copy of it from the net. l8er, norbert. -- Norbert Koch a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:20:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA15819 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:20:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA12443; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:19:56 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA21316; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:15:24 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA11168 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:14:16 -0800 Received: from isc.lf.net (isc.LF.net [194.64.4.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA24528 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:14:14 -0800 Received: by isc.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.95/isc.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remotehost sparclx with uucp for mxu3.u.washington.edu id m0xxQlG-000qwcC; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 07:14:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de(really [192.9.200.142]) by mail.delta-ii.de via sendmail with smtp id for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 07:14:04 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jul-11) Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA24077; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 07:16:12 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 28 Jan 1998 07:16:12 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: text display In-Reply-To: Arlene MacLennan's message of "Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:10:44 -0500 (EST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Arlene MacLennan X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >>>On Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:10:44 -0500 (EST), Arlene MacLennan said: AM> My display is set for the "US-ASCII" character set. When I AM> receive email in the "ISO-8859-1" character set some of the AM> characters are displayed incorrectly. Is there a way I can set my AM> display to read both sets of characters correctly? Thank you for AM> any suggestions Arlene This is, what I've found in the tech-notes: character-set This sets the character set used by the terminal. Currently appropriate values are US-ASCII, ISO-8859-1 through ISO-8859-9 and ISO-2022-JP. See the section on international character sets for more details. The default is US-ASCII. Since US-ASCII is a subset of ISO-88590-1 (is it?), you should have no troubles in setting the variable s(etup) c(onfig) ctrl-w(here-is) "character-set" enter [?(help) ... enjoy ... e(xit)] c(hange) "ISO-8895-1" enter e(xit) y(es) Provided your terminal is able to display the character set, you're done. hth, norbert. -- Norbert Koch a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:05:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA21182 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:05:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA24494; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:05:21 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA01990; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:03:24 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA10666 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:01:55 -0800 Received: from doormouse.formalsys.ca (doormouse.formalsys.ca [198.164.99.129]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA10543 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:01:53 -0800 Received: from [192.168.1.130] by doormouse.formalsys.ca for id IAA03536; Wed Jan 28 08:01:53 1998 Received: from chinchilla.FormalSys.CA (chinchilla.FormalSys.CA [192.168.1.60]) by lemming.FormalSys.CA (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA14676 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:01:19 -0400 (AST) Received: by chinchilla.FormalSys.CA(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.14 3-18-1997)) id 8425659A.00420345 ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:01:02 -0300 Message-Id: <8425659A.00404556.00@chinchilla.FormalSys.CA> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:00:47 -0300 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: jjm@FormalSys.CA To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine and POP3 Server Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Lotus-FromDomain: FSI X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN All, I know this cannot be a new question, but I couldn't find it in the FAQ, manpages, tech-notes or mailing list archive. Here is my situation. I have an account on a POP3 server, mailserv.nbnet.nb.ca. The account name is fade. I'm trying to read my mail on my LINUX box locally and I want to use Pine to do it. The account I almost always log on as root to my machine (which has no domain name and no static IP, damned ppp connection.) First off, can I do this? On the assumption that I can, here is what I have tried. I downloaded a POP3 client called getpop3. All it does is open a connection to the server, sends it the username, password and the dynamic IP I have been assigned. The server creates an SMTP connection (port 25) and sends the mail. Everything is fine that way. I can read my mail okay. Now, when I choose to reply (or send new mail) I can compose it and send it without a hitch, but the message that the recipient gets is 'From' root@nbnet.nb.ca, not fade@nbnet.nb.ca. This is kind of interesting from a security point of view, but pretty annoying for just simple correspondance. The only solutions I have come up with are: 1) Create an account 'fade' on my local machine for the purpose of reading email. This is what I've done and if that is the best I can do I'll live with it. 2) Recompile Pine to allow setting the "From: " line in the custom headers. I tried this last night and ran into a bigger can of worms. While compiling mailindx.c the compiler received signal 6, internal compiler error it said. If it helps, I'm using gcc 2.7.2.2 with libc 5.4.33. Oh, and the Pine I'm compiling is 3.96. Personally, I'm hoping that there is some magical third option I haven't seen. Anybody have any suggestions? Thanks. Joe M. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:29:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA22763 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:29:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA25653; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:29:24 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA04123; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:27:20 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA21446 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:25:14 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA14555 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:25:13 -0800 Received: from nccsc.k12.in.us (nccsc.k12.in.us [206.230.129.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA18379 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:25:12 -0800 Received: from localhost (amkendri@localhost) by nccsc.k12.in.us (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA12442 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:25:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:25:05 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Aaron Kendrick To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: folder lock MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there anyway to unlock folders from being read only? Our server crashed over the weekend and ever since we got it up and running again, all my folders in pine say they are read only. How can I get them back to normal? Aaron Kendrick From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:57:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA25962 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:57:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA29708; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:57:47 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA17021; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:53:58 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA20618 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:52:19 -0800 Received: from edmonds.wednet.edu (gatesj@nova.edmonds.wednet.edu [168.99.160.78]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA32206 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:52:18 -0800 Received: from localhost (gatesj@localhost) by edmonds.wednet.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA04482; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:53:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:53:30 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: John Gates Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: John Gates To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: folder lock In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Aaron Kendrick X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Not sure it's the best way, but you should be able to use the string of commands ";" "a" "a" "s" etc to save all messages in a read only folder to another folder which will be a read and write folder. YOu may then delete the original folder and then rename the new folder to the old name if you wish. This worked for me in PC-Pine - I assume it will work in a Unix Pine. Or a really hard way (it's been a long time and I don't really remember correctly perhaps) is to open the folder file from outside Pine with Pico or some other editor like vi and (globally) change the "Status:" argument of EACH message to contain nothing (it will typically read "Status:RO"). Are there other ways (anybody)? John Gates On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Aaron Kendrick wrote: > Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:25:05 -0500 (EST) > From: Aaron Kendrick > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: folder lock > > Is there anyway to unlock folders from being read only? Our server crashed > over the weekend and ever since we got it up and running again, all my > folders in pine say they are read only. How can I get them back to normal? > > Aaron Kendrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John/Nicki Gates 425-774-3777 750 Northstream Ln, Edmonds WA 98020-2637 gatesj@edmonds.wednet.edu Ham Radio:N7BTI ICBM:47.8241768N x 122.3693085W ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 09:11:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA26538 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 09:11:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA00278; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 09:11:22 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA18299; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 09:08:28 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA48926 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 09:06:11 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA09960 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 09:06:11 -0800 Received: from ns.dragon.cz (root@ns.dragon.cz [195.75.72.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA00123 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 09:06:06 -0800 Received: from ari.dragon.cz (kala@p1.dragon.cz [195.75.72.35]) by ns.dragon.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15220 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:09:50 +0100 Received: from localhost (kala@localhost) by ari.dragon.cz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA00712 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:14:28 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:14:28 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: viinikala/grif To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: composer-wrap-column MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Authentication-Warning: ari.dragon.cz: kala owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN hi, anyone knows how to entirely turn off composer wrapping in pine? thanks! viinikala kauas pilvet karkaavat. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:15:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA03805 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:15:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA12104; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:15:43 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA00198; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:12:07 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA16786 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:10:29 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA17591 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:10:28 -0800 Received: from hermes.iupui.edu (root@hermes.iupui.edu [134.68.220.31]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA04766 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:10:26 -0800 Received: from garnet.iupui.edu (thahn@garnet.iupui.edu [134.68.220.39]) by hermes.iupui.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA15494 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:10:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:10:24 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: thahn@iupui.edu To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: max message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Recently, one of my friends attempted to e-mail me a very large message with a program for me to down-load. This never came through. Is there a limit as to how large a message can be received? Thanks, Tara Hahn thahn@iupui.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:27:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA24636 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:27:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA12429; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:27:41 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA01094; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:23:54 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA03524 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:21:55 -0800 Received: from trixie.mse.jhu.edu (trixie.mse.jhu.edu [128.220.8.14]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA23535 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:21:53 -0800 Received: from see-ya.mse.jhu.edu ([128.220.8.107]) by trixie.mse.jhu.edu with SMTP id <39192-409>; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:21:45 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:22:06 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Tim DiLauro To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: max message In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: thahn@iupui.edu X-X-Sender: timmo@racerx.mse.jhu.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 28 Jan 1998 thahn@iupui.edu wrote: > Recently, one of my friends attempted to e-mail me a very large message > with a program for me to down-load. This never came through. Is there a > limit as to how large a message can be received? Yes, there is a limit, but it will vary depending on the path the mail takes on its way from your friend to you. Each mail transport agent (MTA) along the path can impose a size limit per mail message processed. If the mail from your friend is larger than that limit for any MTA in the path, that MTA will reject the message. -timmo Tim DiLauro Milton S. Eisenhower Library Library Systems Jack Johns Hopkins University (410) 516-5263 3400 N. Charles Street timmo@jhu.edu Baltimore, MD 21218 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:34:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA07032 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:34:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA08971; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:33:56 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA09473; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:26:38 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA16394 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:24:24 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA04482 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:24:23 -0800 Received: from dogbert.ipa.net (root@dogbert.ipa.net [205.218.170.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA08834 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:24:21 -0800 Received: from butler.ipa.net (pool-3.roge.ipa.net [206.153.204.3]) by dogbert.ipa.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA06399 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:24:18 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199801290324.VAA06399@dogbert.ipa.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:31:05 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Kathleen Butler" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: PC Pine Download Problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have tried to download the PC Pine program and get the message "Internet explorer cannot open http://ftp.cac.wahington.ecu/pine/pcpine/pcp_w32.zip". This message appears before anything begins to download. Do you know why I am getting this error? I am very frustrated, and need HELP (PLEASE)!!!! Please return e-mail to butler@ipa.net. Thank you for your assistance. Kathleen Butler butler@ipa.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:56:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA07243 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA09275; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:56:37 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA11978; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:50:16 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA32016 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:48:16 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA13793 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:48:14 -0800 Received: from dogbert.ipa.net (root@dogbert.ipa.net [205.218.170.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA15977 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:48:13 -0800 Received: from butler.ipa.net (pool-3.roge.ipa.net [206.153.204.3]) by dogbert.ipa.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA11235 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:48:11 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199801290348.VAA11235@dogbert.ipa.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:55:01 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Kathleen Butler" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Fw: PC Pine Download Problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN ---------- > > Running in Windows95 environment. Forgot to mention that. > > ---------- > > From: Kathleen Butler > > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > Subject: PC Pine Download Problems > > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 9:31 PM > > > > I have tried to download the PC Pine program and get the message > "Internet > > explorer cannot open > http://ftp.cac.wahington.ecu/pine/pcpine/pcp_w32.zip". > > This message appears before anything begins to download. > > > > Do you know why I am getting this error? I am very frustrated, and need > > HELP (PLEASE)!!!! > > > > Please return e-mail to butler@ipa.net. Thank you for your assistance. > > > > Kathleen Butler > > butler@ipa.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:05:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA08381 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:05:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA10988; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:05:11 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA17214; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:02:17 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA37444 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:59:33 -0800 Received: from mustang.via.net (mustang.via.net [140.174.204.4]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id VAA16099 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:59:31 -0800 Received: (from datela@localhost) by mustang.via.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id VAA23830; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:59:29 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:59:26 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Talent-Management To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Max Addressbook Size In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: datela@mustang.via.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have experimented with the addressbook (.adr) size, and found out that at about the 1,100 address level, it won't take anymore. I don't think it counts the exact number of addresses, but I think it does count the number of bytes in the header or the BCC. Any comments? Bryan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:33:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA03106 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:33:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA18055; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:33:48 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA18434; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:32:12 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA19724 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:30:10 -0800 Received: from isc.lf.net (isc.LF.net [194.64.4.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA21976 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:30:07 -0800 Received: by isc.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.95/isc.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remotehost sparclx with uucp for mxu4.u.washington.edu id m0xxnU9-00000vC; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:30:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de(really [192.9.200.142]) by mail.delta-ii.de via sendmail with smtp id for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:23:21 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jul-11) Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA10282; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:25:43 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 29 Jan 1998 07:25:42 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: PC Pine Download Problems In-Reply-To: "Kathleen Butler"'s message of "Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:31:05 -0600" References: <199801290324.VAA06399@dogbert.ipa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Kathleen Butler" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >>>On Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:31:05 -0600, "Kathleen Butler" said: Kathleen, KB> I have tried to download the PC Pine program and get the message KB> "Internet explorer cannot open KB> http://ftp.cac.wahington.ecu/pine/pcpine/pcp_w32.zip". This ^ You misspelled the URL, it's edu, not ecu :-) hth, norbert. -- Norbert Koch a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 01:19:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA09129 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 01:19:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA20173; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 01:19:03 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA23974; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 01:17:27 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA16632 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 01:16:11 -0800 Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id BAA26434 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 01:16:10 -0800 Received: from crinformation.demon.co.uk ([194.222.219.165]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2014709; 29 Jan 98 9:07 GMT Message-Id: <886064852.2014709.0@crinformation.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:39:57 -0000 Reply-To: robin@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: folder lock MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Aaron Kendrick , Pine Discussion Forum X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Do a "killall pine" or kill the multiple sessions you're obviously running by saying ps ax | grep pine and then kill -9 the PID. Robin -- My header is probably broken. My reply address is robin@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 01:54:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA10845 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 01:54:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA20555; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 01:54:48 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA24834; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 01:52:31 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA33834 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 01:51:27 -0800 Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id BAA31437 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 01:51:23 -0800 Received: from crinformation.demon.co.uk ([194.222.219.165]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2014679; 29 Jan 98 9:07 GMT Message-Id: <886064850.2014679.0@crinformation.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:38:46 -0000 Reply-To: robin@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine and POP3 Server MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: jjm@formalsys.ca, Pine Discussion Forum X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN [how to set from header] The answer is a) to recompile or b) to use qmail which will take care of the forging part. qmail's a pretty smart program, anyway. Cheers, Robin P.S. I thought pine was kinda hard to use, but MS internet mail is probably the crappiest, dumbest and most inconvenient program I've ever used. :-( -- My header is probably broken. My reply address is robin@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 02:49:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA11587 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 02:49:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA14465; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 02:49:26 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA25806; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 02:46:47 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA31886 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 02:45:42 -0800 Received: from isc.lf.net (isc.LF.net [194.64.4.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA00410 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 02:45:39 -0800 Received: by isc.lf.net (Smail3.2.0.95/isc.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remotehost sparclx with uucp for mxu4.u.washington.edu id m0xxrTT-000qxAC; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 11:45:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de(really [192.9.200.142]) by mail.delta-ii.de via sendmail with smtp id for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 11:44:51 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-Jul-11) Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA22507; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 11:47:20 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 29 Jan 1998 11:47:20 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine and POP3 Server In-Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha"'s message of "Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:38:46 -0000" References: <886064850.2014679.0@crinformation.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: robin@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >>>On Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:38:46 -0000, "Robin S. Socha" said: Hi Robin, robin> P.S. I thought pine was kinda hard to use, but MS internet robin> mail is probably the crappiest, dumbest and most inconvenient robin> program I've ever used. :-( Oh yeah, sure - and these morons around want to put me in front of an *argh* WinBlows NT machine - they can't do this to me! Fie upon't! Foe! robin> -- My header is probably broken. My reply address is robin> robin@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de No, it looks correct to me :-) Cheers, norbert. btw, what's the weather like in London - how's life? -- Norbert Koch a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 03:50:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA11802 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 03:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA21807; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 03:49:57 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA26601; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 03:46:07 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA45998 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 03:45:01 -0800 Received: from doormouse.formalsys.ca (doormouse.formalsys.ca [198.164.99.129]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA31051 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 03:45:00 -0800 Received: from [192.168.1.130] by doormouse.formalsys.ca for id HAA20671; Thu Jan 29 07:44:58 1998 Received: from chinchilla.FormalSys.CA (chinchilla.FormalSys.CA [192.168.1.60]) by lemming.FormalSys.CA (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA04639 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:44:25 -0400 (AST) Received: by chinchilla.FormalSys.CA(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.14 3-18-1997)) id 8425659B.004077C3 ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:44:09 -0300 Message-Id: <8425659B.004062E0.00@chinchilla.FormalSys.CA> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:44:00 -0300 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: jjm@FormalSys.CA To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine and POP3 Server Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Lotus-FromDomain: FSI X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 01/29/98 05:51:18 AM, robin@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de wrote: >[how to set from header] > >The answer is a) to recompile or b) to use qmail which will take care of >the forging part. qmail's a pretty smart program, anyway. Hmmm. Okay. I'm also looking into the sendmail end of things, to see if I can correct the problem after Pine sends it but before it leaves the machine. Anyway, any guesses on what may be causing my re-compile problem? I don't mind going in and making some changes if I have to, but I don't want to start blidly groping through code I've never looked at before. The only error message I get is "cc internal compiler error" and "received signal 6". Is this a known problem with either my libc or gcc verions? (5.4.33 and 2.7.2.2 respectively.) I'll also take a look at qmail. Personally my mailer of choice was emacs at work until someone decided that Lotus Notes for Solaris looked pretty neat. *ack hack hack* Tragically this person seemed to be a policy maker. >P.S. I thought pine was kinda hard to use, but MS internet mail is >probably the crappiest, dumbest and most inconvenient program I've ever >used. :-( Believe me, you have my sincerest sympathies. :) J. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 06:24:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA14411 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 06:24:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA23864; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 06:24:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA01134; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 06:22:58 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA43688 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 06:22:23 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA09546 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 06:22:20 -0800 Received: from dogbert.ipa.net (root@dogbert.ipa.net [205.218.170.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA17240 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 06:22:20 -0800 Received: from butler.ipa.net (pool-22.roge.ipa.net [206.153.204.22]) by dogbert.ipa.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA13774 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 08:22:18 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199801291422.IAA13774@dogbert.ipa.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 08:29:06 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Kathleen Butler" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Fw: PC Pine Download Problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I realized I had two typos in my e-mail that listed the file name. I had the spelling correct when trying access the download. I am trying to access http://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/pcp_w32.zip file and am receiving the message "Internet explorer cannot access http://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/pcp_w32.zip." ---------- > From: Kathleen Butler > To: pine-infor@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Fw: PC Pine Download Problems > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 9:40 PM > > Running in Windows95 environment. Forgot to mention that. > > ---------- > > From: Kathleen Butler > > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > Subject: PC Pine Download Problems > > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 9:31 PM > > > > I have tried to download the PC Pine program and get the message > "Internet > > explorer cannot open > http://ftp.cac.wahington.ecu/pine/pcpine/pcp_w32.zip". > > This message appears before anything begins to download. > > > > Do you know why I am getting this error? I am very frustrated, and need > > HELP (PLEASE)!!!! > > > > Please return e-mail to butler@ipa.net. Thank you for your assistance. > > > > Kathleen Butler > > butler@ipa.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:24:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA14966 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:24:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA18129; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:24:39 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA03057; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:09:43 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA28562 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:06:38 -0800 Received: from rwja.UMDNJ.EDU (rwja.UMDNJ.EDU [130.219.4.100]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA15624 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:06:35 -0800 Received: (from green@localhost) by rwja.UMDNJ.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3) id KAA11711; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 10:06:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 10:06:31 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Cliff Green To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Max Addressbook Size In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Talent-Management X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Talent-Management wrote: > > I have experimented with the addressbook (.adr) size, and found out that > at about the 1,100 address level, it won't take anymore. I don't think > it counts the exact number of addresses, but I think it does count the > number of bytes in the header or the BCC. Any comments? We have a global addressbook with 10753 addresses in it, and growing. We rebuild it from scratch with a cron job, so there's no cruft left over from earlier incarnations. How are you building yours? c -- Clifford Green Internet - green@umdnj.edu Academic Computing Services voice - 732-235-5250 UMDNJ-IST fax - 732-235-5252 "People ask for criticism, but they only want praise." --W. Somerset Maugham From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:37:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA15184 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:37:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA18379; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:37:12 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA04486; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:33:59 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA37730 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:31:49 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA17355 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:31:47 -0800 Received: from post-ofc06.srv.cis.pitt.edu (root@post-ofc06.srv.cis.pitt.edu [136.142.185.43]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA18259 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:31:46 -0800 Received: from unixs1.cis.pitt.edu (earst23@unixs1.cis.pitt.edu [136.142.185.31]) by post-ofc06.srv.cis.pitt.edu with SMTP (8.8.8/8.8.8/cispo-7.1.2.7) ID for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 10:31:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 10:31:42 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Elizabeth A Risser To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Deleting e-mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: earst23@unixs1.cis.pitt.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Pine, I have over 380 e-mails in my inbox and I have tried to delete some of them-They refuse to be deleted. How can I get my e-mails to be deleted? Unable to delete, Liz From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 08:48:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA16435 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 08:48:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA26589; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 08:48:01 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA09211; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 08:43:19 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA17114 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 08:42:06 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA31460 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 08:42:05 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (skramer@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id IAA14446; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 08:42:02 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 08:42:00 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: Stefan Kramer Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Stefan Kramer To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Fw: PC Pine Download Problems In-Reply-To: <199801291422.IAA13774@dogbert.ipa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Kathleen Butler X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The host from which you can download PC-Pine is an Anonymous FTP server, not a WWW server -- try: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/pcp_w32.zip ---------------------------------------------------- Stefan Kramer \|/ skramer@cac.washington.edu ---------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Kathleen Butler wrote: > Message-ID: <199801291422.IAA13774@dogbert.ipa.net> > From: Kathleen Butler > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 08:29:06 -0600 > Subject: Fw: PC Pine Download Problems > > I realized I had two typos in my e-mail that listed the file name. I had > the spelling correct when trying access the download. I am trying to > access http://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/pcp_w32.zip file and am > receiving the message "Internet explorer cannot access > http://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/pcp_w32.zip." > > ---------- > > From: Kathleen Butler > > To: pine-infor@cac.washington.edu > > Subject: Fw: PC Pine Download Problems > > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 9:40 PM > > > > Running in Windows95 environment. Forgot to mention that. > > > > ---------- > > > From: Kathleen Butler > > > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > > Subject: PC Pine Download Problems > > > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 9:31 PM > > > > > > I have tried to download the PC Pine program and get the message > > "Internet > > > explorer cannot open > > http://ftp.cac.wahington.ecu/pine/pcpine/pcp_w32.zip". > > > This message appears before anything begins to download. > > > > > > Do you know why I am getting this error? I am very frustrated, and > need > > > HELP (PLEASE)!!!! > > > > > > Please return e-mail to butler@ipa.net. Thank you for your assistance. > > > > > > Kathleen Butler > > > butler@ipa.net > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:19:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA20824 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:19:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA02140; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:19:12 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA28725; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:14:59 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAB37702 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:14:10 -0800 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.175]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA16541 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:14:05 -0800 Received: from Aloss4u@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv12/Dec1997) id 4PKTa14890 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:04:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <707adb85.34d0e0c3@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:04:17 EST Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Aloss4u@aol.com To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Request For Mariah Carey Pics? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN please send me some pics please From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:38:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA21132 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:38:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA25757; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:38:11 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA00643; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:32:20 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA20360 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:31:18 -0800 Received: from mail1.eni.net (mail1.eni.net [205.214.51.15]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA27979 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:31:17 -0800 Received: from ashawna.eni.net (firewall-user@chastity.eni.net [206.135.49.2]) by mail1.eni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA22982; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:32:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:29:35 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Drachen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Request For Mariah Carey Pics? In-Reply-To: <707adb85.34d0e0c3@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Aloss4u@aol.com X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN no. this is not the place to ask for them. you are not going to get them from here. -- drachen@eni.net System Administrator Epoch Internet "Connecting The World, One Business At A Time...... By Caring About A Customers Success" abuse@eni.net Spam Patrol On Thu, 29 Jan 1998 Aloss4u@aol.com wrote: > please send me some pics please > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:57:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA21397 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:57:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA26154; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:57:18 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA03383; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:53:22 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA17012 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:52:25 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA30654 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:52:23 -0800 Received: from alberti.unh.edu (kosman@alberti.unh.edu [132.177.137.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA03010 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:52:20 -0800 Received: from localhost (kosman@localhost) by alberti.unh.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA09750 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:52:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:52:18 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: The Traveller To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: how to reject a certain address MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I have a question on how to reject from receiving a certain email from a certain address. I have been receiving this junk/abusive mail Please enlighten me.. Thanx Kahar From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:51:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA22760 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:51:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA04680; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:51:10 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA08256; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:47:34 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA50022 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:46:48 -0800 Received: from green.indy.net (green.indy.net [199.3.65.18]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA28618 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:46:43 -0800 Received: from indy4.indy.net (root@indy4.indy.net [199.3.65.4]) by green.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA23392; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:47:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (pfarabee@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by indy4.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA26203; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:47:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:47:09 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Noone Special To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: how to reject a certain address In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: The Traveller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: pfarabee@indy4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN (>TT>) On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, The Traveller wrote: >TT> Hi, >TT> >TT> I have a question on how to reject from receiving a certain email >TT> from a certain address. I have been receiving this junk/abusive mail >TT> >TT> Please enlighten me.. Oh, ye seeker of deeper wisdom, hear my words and ye shall reap the blessed knowledge of the ages. Abuse not this wondrous gift from the heavens, but praise the stars, and be humble before your brother, for we are one. >From a unix prompt, type "man procmail" >TT> Thanx Thank not, simply be. And remember, the notion of self is the cure for logical thought. Pathisattva Farabee From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:04:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA28143 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:04:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA03972; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:04:00 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA28117; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:01:05 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA31810 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:00:19 -0800 Received: from mole.slip.net (mole.slip.net [207.171.193.16]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id SAA22659 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:00:18 -0800 Received: from slip-3.slip.net [207.171.193.17] (batchman) by mole.slip.net with smtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 0xy5ka-0002Vo-00; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:00:12 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:00:13 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shoeless in San Jose To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Request For Mariah Carey Pics? In-Reply-To: <707adb85.34d0e0c3@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: batchman@slip-3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 29 Jan 1998 Aloss4u@aol.com wrote: > please send me some pics please Better yet, just send me Mariah Carey! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 23:06:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA31684 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 23:06:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA07975; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 23:06:14 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA14981; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 23:03:43 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA21348 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 23:03:00 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA20135 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 23:02:56 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA00574; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:01:41 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:01:41 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: composer-wrap-column In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: viinikala/grif X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: viinikala/grif >Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:14:28 +0100 (MET) >anyone knows how to entirely turn off composer wrapping in pine? You can't. The maximum word wrap is 80 characters. If you must send long lines in the body of the message, you'll have to compose a text file and read it into the body of the message with ^r. Use the "-w" switch to turn off word wrap in pico. This will simply break lines after the 255th character. And, justifying will truncate the line if there are no space characters to break up the word to less than 255 characters. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:21:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA00330 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:21:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA09600; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:21:29 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA21419; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:20:02 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA47978 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:19:02 -0800 Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id BAA29580 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:19:01 -0800 Received: from crinformation.demon.co.uk ([194.222.219.165]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2008792; 30 Jan 98 9:12 GMT Message-Id: <886151542.208792.0@crinformation.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:09:38 -0000 Reply-To: robin@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Deleting e-mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Elizabeth A Risser , Pine Discussion Forum X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Dear Pine, > I have over 380 e-mails in my inbox and I have tried to delete some of > them-They refuse to be deleted. How can I get my e-mails to be deleted? Enable "aggregate-commands" in the setup and read the documentation. -- My header is probably broken. My reply address is robin@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:46:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA00879 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:46:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA16790; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:46:10 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA22115; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:44:49 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA28554 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:43:59 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA19693 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:43:56 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:42:49 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:42:49 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Deleting e-mail In-Reply-To: <886151542.208792.0@crinformation.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 30 Jan 1998, Robin S. Socha wrote: > > Dear Pine, > > I have over 380 e-mails in my inbox and I have tried to delete some of > > them-They refuse to be deleted. How can I get my e-mails to be deleted? > > Enable "aggregate-commands" in the setup and read the documentation. Also, maybe the original poster didn't read about the eXpunge command? Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce GSM: +65-975-10860 Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:54:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA32737 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:54:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA09974; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:54:11 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA20516; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:52:40 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA30314 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:52:23 -0800 Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id BAA19970 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 01:52:22 -0800 Received: from crinformation.demon.co.uk ([194.222.219.165]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2008803; 30 Jan 98 9:12 GMT Message-Id: <886151543.208803.0@crinformation.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:12:46 -0000 Reply-To: robin@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Request For Mariah Carey Pics? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Shoeless in San Jose , Pine Discussion Forum X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > From: Shoeless in San Jose > On Thu, 29 Jan 1998 Aloss4u@aol.com wrote: > > please send me some pics please > Better yet, just send me Mariah Carey! #!/bin/sh mv xfree.tgz mariah.tgz while true do zcat mariah.tgz | mail batchman@slip.net done Ok? -- My header is probably broken. My reply address is robin@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:26:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA04219 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:26:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA13328; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:26:19 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA26831; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:24:21 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA25638 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:23:54 -0800 Received: from email.uah.edu (email.uah.edu [146.229.1.200]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id GAA07896 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:23:53 -0800 Received: from localhost by email.uah.edu (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/02Jul96-0938AM) id AA22570; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:33:06 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:33:05 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Rosemary K. Bradas" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: email attachment Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Can anyone accurately tell me how to attach a Microsoft Word document to a pine email message so that it will arrive alive and unharmed? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:14:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA05500 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:14:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA14996; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:14:49 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA05509; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:12:13 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA50426 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:11:25 -0800 Received: from spira.plb.de (spira.plb.de [193.175.255.7]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA13996 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:11:18 -0800 Received: from spira.plb.de (bork@spira.plb.de [193.175.255.7]) by spira.plb.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA12054; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:15:46 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:15:45 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "H. Bork" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: PC Pine Download Problems In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Norbert Koch X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN ... _ KB> http://ftp.cac.wahington.ecu/pine/pcpine/pcp_w32.zip". _You misspelled the URL, it's edu, not ecu :-) ... and washington , not wahington ... and ftp:// , not http:// have a nice week-end. Kind regards, -- hal :-) ---------------------------------------------------------- bork@plb.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:15:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA07223 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:15:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA16515; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:15:39 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA49024; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:10:54 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA40972 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:09:26 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA14628 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:09:25 -0800 Received: from schilling.ucdavis.edu (root@schilling.ucdavis.edu [128.120.8.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA16351 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:09:22 -0800 Received: from catbert.ucdavis.edu (root@catbert.ucdavis.edu [128.120.8.190]) by schilling.ucdavis.edu (8.8.8/UCD3.11.25) with ESMTP id JAA17644 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:09:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (fzgao@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by catbert.ucdavis.edu (8.8.7/UCD3.11.25) with SMTP id JAA00153 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:09:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:09:16 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mingjun Gao To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Information Wanted MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: fzgao@catbert.ucdavis.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, Could you provide me with some information on how to use Unix to search for news such as "can.jobs". Any information is highly appreciated. Ming-Jun Gao ---------------------------------------- Ming-Jun Gao Department of Agronomy and Range Science University of California Davis, CA 95616 Phone: (530)752-3487/8123(Lab) (530)759-8369(H) Fax: (530)752-4361 E-mail: mgao@ucdavis.edu ---------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:18:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA07328 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:18:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA23580; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:18:13 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA13746; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:15:24 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA34562 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:13:45 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA21953 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:13:41 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA09674; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:12:28 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:12:28 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: email attachment In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Rosemary K. Bradas" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: "Rosemary K. Bradas" >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:33:05 -0600 (CST) >Can anyone accurately tell me how to attach a Microsoft Word document >to a pine email message so that it will arrive alive and unharmed? While composing a message, put the cursor in the headers and hit ^j and enter the filename. It's that simple. You are, of course, positive, that the receipient can read Word, right? With respect to "unharmed", there's nothing pine can do about that. pine doesn't handle mail transport. Each of the machines along the path to the final machine must be properly configured to handle MIME attachments. All you can do is hope for the best. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:32:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA07587 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:32:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA23910; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:32:28 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA11889; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:28:15 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA46976 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:27:31 -0800 Received: from osfn.org (ar680@osfn.org [155.212.105.100]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA23636 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:27:27 -0800 Received: (from ar680@localhost) by osfn.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA11445; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 12:24:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 12:24:18 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Margaret A. Thomas" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Including Original Message in Reply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello , I've subscribed to this list for about 2 months now and I have learned quite a bit from it and am grateful for your technical expertise. I would, however, like to voice a pet peeve. When you include the original message in your posts, would you please put it after your message? I am blind and use speech for access and having the quote first is time consuming and a bit annoying. If I am reading your post, I am usually familiar with the thread and can silence my machine and go on to another post. I realize this takes some extra work, but it would help insure your posts are read and make the time on the Internet more productive for those of us using access devices. Thank you, Margaret From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:49:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA08030 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:49:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA17297; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:48:58 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA10678; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:45:45 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA51258 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:44:12 -0800 Received: from quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.19]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA20825 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:44:05 -0800 Received: from gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.12]) by quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA11976 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:44:07 -0700 Received: from localhost (maldridg@localhost) by gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA108064 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:44:07 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:44:07 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Lea To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Margaret's peeve, and a question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Information List X-Sender: maldridg@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thanks, Margaret, for a point of view it wouldn't have occurred to me to think of. It's a kind of rock-and-hard-place thing from my perspective - for myself, I prefer to have quotes first rather than last because (and especially if there's a timelapse between the original post and the reply) it's easier to pick up on the discussion thread when the stream is chronological - quote/reply/quote/reply...It hadn't occurred to me that that might be a problem for some. I wonder if there's a solution that would suit everyone, at least to some extent....I'll have to give that some thought. And my question was................I have a client who wants to save mail to folders, sans header. Doesn't want anything except maybe date and sender. Is it possible to do that? Anyone have an idea how? Please let me know... Marianne ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) http://www.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/tutor/Tutorials.html http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/Wiz/Wizard '...But I didn't mean to be brave; it just sort of happened when I panicked...' -Piglet ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:22:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA08787 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:22:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA18026; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:22:01 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA13870; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:19:33 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA41136 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:18:50 -0800 Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id KAA31261 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:18:49 -0800 Received: from crinformation.demon.co.uk ([194.222.219.165]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2003212; 30 Jan 98 18:09 GMT Message-Id: <886183758.203212.0@crinformation.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 18:09:35 -0000 Reply-To: robin@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Information Wanted MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Mingjun Gao , Pine Discussion Forum X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN that'd be www.dejanews.com Now, where are those brackets... Umm... Ok, here zou go: <> Cheers, Robin -- 1. Mz signature drowned in the Channel... 2. I did not choose this mail program. 3. British kezboards are not KeWL... ---------- > From: Mingjun Gao > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Information Wanted > Date: 30 January 1998 17:09 > > Hi, > > Could you provide me with some information on how to use Unix to search > for news such as "can.jobs". > > Any information is highly appreciated. > > Ming-Jun Gao > > ---------------------------------------- > Ming-Jun Gao > Department of Agronomy > and Range Science > University of California > Davis, CA 95616 > Phone: (530)752-3487/8123(Lab) > (530)759-8369(H) > Fax: (530)752-4361 > E-mail: mgao@ucdavis.edu > ---------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:12:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA10124 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:12:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA26468; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:12:08 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA20482; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:06:49 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA29826 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:04:45 -0800 Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id LAA04135 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:04:44 -0800 Received: from crinformation.demon.co.uk ([194.222.219.165]) by post.mail.demon.net id ac2003200; 30 Jan 98 18:09 GMT Message-Id: <886183757.203200.0@crinformation.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 18:08:47 -0000 Reply-To: robin@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Margaret's peeve, and a question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Lea , Pine Discussion Forum X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Sure... Do a websearch for a script called printmail (which is part of elm IIRC). That will do exactlz what that person's looking for... Hmmm... I'm starting to like that verz funnz spelling thing here... Cheers, Robin -- 1. Mz signature drowned in the Channel... 2. I did not choose this mail program. 3. British kezboards are not KeWL... ---------- > From: Lea > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Margaret's peeve, and a question > Date: 30 January 1998 17:44 > > > Thanks, Margaret, for a point of view it wouldn't have occurred > to me to think of. It's a kind of rock-and-hard-place thing from > my perspective - for myself, I prefer to have quotes first rather > than last because (and especially if there's a timelapse between > the original post and the reply) it's easier to pick up on the > discussion thread when the stream is chronological - > quote/reply/quote/reply...It hadn't occurred to me that that > might be a problem for some. I wonder if there's a solution that > would suit everyone, at least to some extent....I'll have to give > that some thought. > > And my question was................I have a client who wants to > save mail to folders, sans header. Doesn't want anything except > maybe date and sender. Is it possible to do that? Anyone have > an idea how? > > Please let me know... > > Marianne > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; Helpdesk > maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca > 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) > http://www.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/tutor/Tutorials.html > http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/Wiz/Wizard > > '...But I didn't mean to be brave; it just sort of happened when I panicked...' > -Piglet > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:37:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA13531 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:37:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA00284; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:36:58 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA29962; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:32:52 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA43004 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:31:28 -0800 Received: from green.indy.net (green.indy.net [199.3.65.18]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA16029 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:31:22 -0800 Received: from indy4.indy.net (root@indy4.indy.net [199.3.65.4]) by green.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA16620 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:32:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (pfarabee@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by indy4.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA08033 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:31:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:31:54 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Noone Special To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Margaret's peeve In-Reply-To: <886183757.203200.0@crinformation.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: pfarabee@indy4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN You could always set a filter up that discards any line beginning with a greater than sign. The greater than sign is, of course, the standard "This line is quoted" symbol. Perhaps you have a friend that can help with such a project? Pat From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:02:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA14080 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:02:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA00860; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:01:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA05780; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:57:34 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA37644 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:55:46 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA17450 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:55:44 -0800 Received: from mailhost.rf.net (www.rf.net [207.183.64.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA23432 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:55:40 -0800 Received: from 207.183.64.113 ([207.183.64.113]) by mailhost.rf.net (8.8.5/8.7.2) with SMTP id NAA02603; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:55:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <34D24F7B.560D@rf.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:09:00 -0800 Reply-To: im@rf.net Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Matt Kelly To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: finding pico MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am not a member of the mailing list. I came across various references to this in a search for pico. I have recently signed up with a new ISP. I was happy to know that they did offer a shell acount. But when I logged into my shell I found that they had next to no programs there for use. I have been given the go ahead to install some programs for them. I have located elm, and will be istalling that over the weekend. I know that it needs to be linked to a text editor. Since all they have is vi (yuck!) I need to install pico. Not just for elm do we need pico, just for ease of editing in general. Where may I find pico and instructions for installation? please reply to me directly, as I am not a member of this list. Thank You Matt Kelly im@rf.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:12:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA14306 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:12:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA01112; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:11:57 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA03143; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:07:40 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA30078 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:06:26 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA25883 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:06:23 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA13896; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:05:07 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:05:07 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: finding pico In-Reply-To: <34D24F7B.560D@rf.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Matt Kelly X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN posted and mailed >From: Matt Kelly >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:09:00 -0800 >Where may I find pico and instructions for installation? ftp ftp.cac.washington.edu Obtain the pine 3.96 tar, with a choice of gz or Z compression, from the pine directory. You'll find the pico editor in the pine tar. 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From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:57:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA19153 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:57:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA05984; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:56:55 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA23335; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:52:45 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA39150 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:52:06 -0800 Received: from dogbert.ucdavis.edu (root@dogbert.ucdavis.edu [128.120.8.191]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA15163 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:52:02 -0800 Received: from localhost (fzgao@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogbert.ucdavis.edu (8.8.7/UCD3.11.25) with SMTP id RAA23270; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:51:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:51:59 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mingjun Gao To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Information Wanted In-Reply-To: <886183758.203212.0@crinformation.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Mingjun Gao , Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: fzgao@dogbert.ucdavis.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi,Robin: I really appreciate your information. Through the 'dejanews', I really can find a lot of jobs. But I can not find what I want. I want to find a job in Canada in life sciences. Could you give me more guidance? How can I reach newsgroup: can.jobs specifically? Thanks again for your help. Ming-Jun ---------------------------------------- Ming-Jun Gao Department of Agronomy and Range Science University of California Davis, CA 95616 Phone: (530)752-3487/8123(Lab) (530)759-8369(H) Fax: (530)752-4361 E-mail: mgao@ucdavis.edu ---------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:53:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA20840 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:53:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA08149; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:53:29 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA28789; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:50:07 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA48742 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:49:24 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA25557 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:49:20 -0800 Received: from iscweb.com (scarecrow.iscweb.com [208.147.43.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA01459 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:49:21 -0800 Received: from default (208.147.43.47) by iscweb.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.0.1); Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:48:45 -0800 Message-Id: <34D1FC6A.12A6@iscweb.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:44:34 +0430 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Brian Butscher To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: PINE e-mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I downloaded the compressed binary pine 3.96 files to my PC then transferred the pine file to diskette and the used dosread (without the -a parameter) on a RS/6000 to transfer the binary file to the RS/6000. I then used the uncompress command to uncompress the file. There is something else I need to do with this file to get PINE to work on the RS/6000 but I haven't figured that out. Any ideas or helpful suggestions? If this is a binary file do I need to download the "makefile" you reference in your README documentation? HELP! Thanks in advance for your suggestions! Brian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 23:33:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA22087 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 23:33:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA03337; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 23:33:35 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA07874; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 23:30:02 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA16212 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 23:29:26 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA27003 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 23:29:20 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA23045; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 01:28:19 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 01:28:19 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: "Adam H. Kerman" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Information Wanted In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mingjun Gao X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN posted and mailed >From: Mingjun Gao >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:51:59 -0800 (PST) >I really appreciate your information. Through the 'dejanews', I really can >find a lot of jobs. But I can not find what I want. I want to find a job >in Canada in life sciences. Could you give me more guidance? How can I >reach newsgroup: can.jobs specifically? You have been told repeatedly that the pine-info mailing list is for discussion of the pine executable, a user agent for Internet mail. You cannot ask for information on seeking jobs in Canada through this mailing list! You didn't send your reply to Robin, but to the list. If your system administrator has set up pine for news reading, yes, you can read can.jobs. Look at the folder list ("l" from the main menu) and hit "?" for help. Read about folder collections as you need to create a news collection. Then, go to your configuration file (s, then c, from the main menu) and read the help "?" for folder collections and news collections. You must be able to read news via NNTP or IMAP. If you need further help, ask your system administrator. We can't tell you what your news server is! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 02:15:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA23942 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 02:15:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA11943; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 02:15:48 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA24188; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 02:07:22 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA50380 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 02:06:46 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA04228 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 02:06:43 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 18:06:08 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 18:06:07 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: email attachment In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Adam H. Kerman" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 30 Jan 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > >From: "Rosemary K. Bradas" > >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:33:05 -0600 (CST) > > >Can anyone accurately tell me how to attach a Microsoft Word document > >to a pine email message so that it will arrive alive and unharmed? > > While composing a message, put the cursor in the headers and hit ^j and enter > the filename. It's that simple. You are, of course, positive, that the > receipient can read Word, right? > > With respect to "unharmed", there's nothing pine can do about that. pine > doesn't handle mail transport. Each of the machines along the path to the final > machine must be properly configured to handle MIME attachments. All you can do > is hope for the best. Everything is OK....except for your last statement. One of the goals of MIME was to make it such that no MTA in the middle need to know anything about MIME. So, there is no requirement that any MTA be configured in any way to handle MIME attachments. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce GSM: +65-975-10860 Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 06:56:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA27246 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 06:56:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA15142; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 06:56:22 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA31248; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 06:47:20 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA31240 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 06:44:16 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA11043 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 06:44:13 -0800 Received: from vectorbd.com (root@vectorbd.com [208.20.193.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id GAA15005 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 06:44:12 -0800 Received: from ibm (test01.vectorbd.com [172.16.4.1]) by vectorbd.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA28764 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 09:44:48 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 09:46:54 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jim Lill To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: gzip and pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-X-Sender: jpl@vectbd.vectorbd.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there a recommended way to have pine access sent-mail-???-?? folders that have been gzip'd? Or, is there any intention to add that feature to pine? Thanks in advance and of course...... thanks for pine!! -Jim Lill http://www.vectorbd.com/users/jpl From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 07:40:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA27561 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 07:40:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA15610; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 07:40:28 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA46374; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 07:31:35 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA36442 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 07:29:44 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA08304 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 07:29:38 -0800 Received: from hkusua.hku.hk (hkusua.hku.hk [147.8.2.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id HAA08769 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 07:29:41 -0800 Received: from localhost by hkusua.hku.hk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA19118; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 23:30:49 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 23:30:48 +0800 (HKT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Carol T.C.Lo" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Sir, I am very mingled by the pine system. MY inbox massage are always eatten up without pior notification. All my in-coming mag disappear and nothing is left in the mail box. Why is it so? Can I do something to prevent it from happening again. By the way, there is always a small e appears at the bottom of each mail I write, like the one here in the following. e Since my mailbox is unable to receive any incoming mail, so could you please reply me by the following mail add: jervielo@hotmail.com Yours Carol From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 08:09:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA17174 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 08:09:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA09225; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 08:09:29 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA20840; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 08:07:49 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA36572 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 08:05:01 -0800 Received: from mustang.via.net (mustang.via.net [140.174.204.4]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id IAA13476 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 08:05:01 -0800 Received: (from datela@localhost) by mustang.via.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA14171; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 08:04:57 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 08:04:57 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Talent-Management To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Max Addressbook Size In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Cliff Green X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: datela@mustang.via.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > > I have experimented with the addressbook (.adr) size, and found out that > > at about the 1,100 address level, it won't take anymore. I don't think > > it counts the exact number of addresses, but I think it does count the > > number of bytes in the header or the BCC. Any comments? > > We have a global addressbook with 10753 addresses in it, and growing. We > rebuild it from scratch with a cron job, so there's no cruft left over > from earlier incarnations. How are you building yours? I am simply using PINE's "Take Address" function. After a certain size, it (pine 3.91) won't take any more. I have, however, copied very large address lists from a file into the message body, and then moved them into the BCC, and this worked fine. So maybe the problem is that this pine can mail large numbers but it just can't take that many using its own function. Bryan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 09:10:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA28015 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 09:10:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA16621; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 09:10:08 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA19886; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 09:03:44 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA49144 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 09:01:53 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA15903 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 09:01:49 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA02117 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 10:59:59 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 10:59:59 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: email attachment In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN If you reply to the list, there is no need to send me a separate reply. >From: Edward M Greshko >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 18:06:07 +0800 (GMT) >On Fri, 30 Jan 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>With respect to "unharmed", there's nothing pine can do about that. pine >>doesn't handle mail transport. Each of the machines along the path to the >>final machine must be properly configured to handle MIME attachments. >Everything is OK....except for your last statement. My last statement was, "Hope for the best." >One of the goals of MIME was to make it such that no MTA in the middle need to >know anything about MIME. So, there is no requirement that any MTA be >configured in any way to handle MIME attachments. We have had quite a bit of discussion about machines truncating and rewriting headers, or choosing to pass only certain headers. I suggest that such machines are not properly configured to handle MIME attachments. If any such machines are along the path that mail travels from sender to receipient, the attachment won't be unharmed. The headers must survive transport! Otherwise, it ain't MIME; it's garbage. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 09:54:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA28539 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 09:54:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA17076; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 09:54:20 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA25217; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 09:36:48 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA20948 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 09:34:50 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA17420 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 09:34:50 -0800 Received: from megahertz.njit.edu (megahertz.njit.edu [128.235.251.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id JAA16853 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 09:34:48 -0800 Received: from default (ppp-228-132.njit.edu [128.235.228.132]) by megahertz.njit.edu (SMI-8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA12540 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 12:34:45 -0500 Message-Id: <34D361AE.3CA6@megahertz.njit.edu> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 12:38:54 -0500 Reply-To: axp0585@megahertz.njit.edu Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: volcanik To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I wanted to know if there was a way to copy text from Pine and paste it in a text editor and save it as a text file automatically on a Win95 platform. When I say automatically, i mean there is no user interaction, only a program which copies and pastes automatically at given time intervals. any info would be appreciated, thank you. -Ashish From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 10:57:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA29117 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 10:57:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA17888; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 10:57:09 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA29270; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 10:51:37 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA19928 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 10:49:48 -0800 Received: from email.uah.edu (email.uah.edu [146.229.1.200]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id KAA18014 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 10:49:47 -0800 Received: from localhost by email.uah.edu (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/02Jul96-0938AM) id AA15845; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 12:59:03 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 12:59:03 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Rosemary K. Bradas" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: what does this mean? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Several times in email msgs I have received the following: [The following text is in the "iso-8859-1" character set] [Your display is set for the "US-ASCII" character set] [Some characters may be displayed incorrectly] Where does this message come from? Is it automatically generated by pine? How do you know when someone's display might garble your message? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 11:35:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA29380 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 11:35:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA18431; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 11:35:37 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA27055; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 11:33:09 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA48172 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 11:31:13 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA23196 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 11:31:13 -0800 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA10378; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 19:29:24 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 11:29:24 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: "Colin J. Raven" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: question In-Reply-To: <34D361AE.3CA6@megahertz.njit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: volcanik X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN "Automatically" "No user intervention"?? The answer is no as you ask it. You miss out many details of exactly what you are working with, but let's make a few assumptions. Presumably, you have telnetted into an account from a Win95 machine, and have invoked Pine remotely to read your mail (it would have helped if you had told us how you were doing this but it seems like maybe this is how you're doing it) Just highlight, copy, and paste whatever text is of interest into Notepad from your telnet client screen. (bundled client with Win95 or some client like NetTerm). Maybe I'm missing something here, but that's how I read this. On Sat, 31 Jan 1998, volcanik wrote: > I wanted to know if there was a way to copy text from Pine and paste it > in a text editor and save it as a text file automatically on a Win95 > platform. When I say automatically, i mean there is no user interaction, > only a program which copies and pastes automatically at given time > intervals. > > any info would be appreciated, thank you. > > -Ashish > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 13:25:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA30251 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 13:25:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA19701; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 13:25:09 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA06071; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 13:22:21 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA31858 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 13:20:27 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA28349 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 13:20:27 -0800 Received: from imo24.mail.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.152]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA12930 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 13:20:24 -0800 Received: from Snomonky66@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv12/Dec1997) id UCKRa27669 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 16:19:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <26350c59.34d3956e@aol.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 16:19:40 EST Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Snomonky66@aol.com To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: welfare land Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN what is this crap thing From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 13:35:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA30285 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 13:35:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA19823; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 13:35:30 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA02646; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 13:33:15 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA19782 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 13:30:42 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA26108 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 13:30:41 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA04764; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 15:28:53 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 15:28:53 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: welfare land In-Reply-To: <26350c59.34d3956e@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Snomonky66@aol.com X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Snomonky66@aol.com >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 16:19:40 EST >what is this crap thing Why, it's your message. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 13:41:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA30328 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 13:41:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA13148; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 13:41:03 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA02831; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 13:38:33 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA19952 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 13:37:33 -0800 Received: from pizza.excellnet.com (root@pizza.excellnet.com [208.220.200.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA30463 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 13:37:28 -0800 Received: from HQDATAWAREHOUSE.HQ.BELMAY.COM ([208.158.1.9]) by pizza.excellnet.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA04916 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 16:37:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <98013116385300.00485@HQDATAWAREHOUSE.HQ.BELMAY.COM> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 21:38:42 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "DAVE BURMESTER - Y" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: MIME SUPPORTED FILE FORMATS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-To: "pine-info@u.washington.edu" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there anywhere I can find an accurate list of MIME supported file formats. I am not a Pine Info subscriber, so I would appreciate if you could send an answer directly to the email address: daved@belmay.com. Thanks in advance. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 16:04:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA31568 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 16:04:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA21419; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 16:04:45 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA13161; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 16:03:05 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA48158 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 16:01:15 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA00370 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 16:01:13 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 08:00:37 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 08:00:36 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: email attachment In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Adam H. Kerman" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 31 Jan 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > My last statement was, "Hope for the best." That's always the case within the Internet. :-) :-) > We have had quite a bit of discussion about machines truncating and rewriting > headers, or choosing to pass only certain headers. I suggest that such machines > are not properly configured to handle MIME attachments. If any such machines > are along the path that mail travels from sender to receipient, the attachment > won't be unharmed. The headers must survive transport! Correct. However, these MTAs are simply *broken*. Their choice to mangle headers has nothing to do with the headers being MIME or not. Chances are very good that the MTAs in question predate MIME. > Otherwise, it ain't MIME; it's garbage. Yep.... Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce GSM: +65-975-10860 Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 16:09:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA31620 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 16:09:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA21502; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 16:09:43 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA42070; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 16:08:08 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA36548 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 16:05:23 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA02587 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 16:05:21 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 08:05:10 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 08:05:10 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: what does this mean? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Rosemary K. Bradas" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 31 Jan 1998, Rosemary K. Bradas wrote: > Several times in email msgs I have received the following: > > [The following text is in the "iso-8859-1" character set] > [Your display is set for the "US-ASCII" character set] > [Some characters may be displayed incorrectly] > > Where does this message come from? It is created by pine when the "charset" parameter in the MIME headers do not match what is set for your system. > Is it automatically generated by pine? Yes, it is an informative message only. > How do you know when someone's display might garble your message? You don't. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce GSM: +65-975-10860 Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 22:54:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA01867 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 22:54:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA25745; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 22:54:41 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA00540; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 22:51:58 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA24144 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 22:49:54 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA22131 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 22:49:49 -0800 Received: from sparky.ic.sunysb.edu (24967@sparky.ic.sunysb.edu [129.49.12.171]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA19208 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 22:49:46 -0800 Received: from localhost (kmcgroga@localhost) by sparky.ic.sunysb.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id BAA17833 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 01:49:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 01:49:41 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Kevin W Mcgrogan To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Attachments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Authentication-Warning: sparky.ic.sunysb.edu: kmcgroga owned process doing -bs X-Sender: kmcgroga@sparky X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To whom it may concern, I was wondering how to make a picture appear on my pc when my brother scans a picture and sends it. When I get the e-mail I can read the message but the system will not allow me to view the attached picture that has been scanned and sent. If you could please tell me what I am doing wrong or if it can be done it would be appreciated. Thank you for your time. Sincerely, Kevin Mcgrogan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 23:14:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA02069 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 23:14:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA19489; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 23:14:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA01147; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 23:13:07 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA24206 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 23:11:09 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA18769 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 23:11:07 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 15:10:16 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 15:10:16 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Attachments In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Kevin W Mcgrogan X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 1 Feb 1998, Kevin W Mcgrogan wrote: > I was wondering how to make a picture appear on my pc when my > brother scans a picture and sends it. When I get the e-mail I can read the > message but the system will not allow me to view the attached picture > that has been scanned and sent. If you could please tell me what I am > doing wrong or if it can be done it would be appreciated. Thank you for > your time. You seem to be running pine under Solaris. This mean you must be using some sort of telnet session to your Sun box to run pine. If this is the case then the data file (picture) resides on the Sun box...but the application to render the picture is on your PC. So, one method, is to save the picture to the disk on the Sun and then transfer it to the PC and run the application to render it. Without knowing your HW/SW setup it is difficult to advise an exact method to accomplish the task. Maybe your "helpdesk" could be of assistance? Regards, -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce GSM: +65-975-10860 Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE