From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 00:27:51 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 00:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32224; Tue, 1 Oct 96 00:27:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA08138 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 00:24:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA08133 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 00:24:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7zA2-00038BC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 00:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ruth Anne Ladue Subject: Re: Enabling the mbox driver Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 15:43:21 -0700 Message-Id: References: <52bt9r$8qe@unix.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, David L Miller wrote: > If mail is delivered to /usr/spool/mail and you want Pine to move > incoming messages to ~/mbox, build Pine as follows: > > build sol EXTRADRIVERS=mbox This was the solution. Thanks! --Ruth Anne From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 03:49:34 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 03:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00629; Tue, 1 Oct 96 03:49:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA20247 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 03:46:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id DAA20242 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 03:46:27 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbjnn10793; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 06:46:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06597; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 13:47:44 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07829; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 13:45:58 -0300 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 11:41:37 -0300 (GMT) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu Cc: Omar Butaiban Subject: .pine.debug Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 13:45:50 -0300 (GMT) Resent-From: Omar Butaiban Resent-To: pine-info Resent-Message-Id: i want to move all the files that concern pine from my home directory to another direcotory can you help me on that please i mean moving .pine-debug and .pinerc thanks Omar Butaiban From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 03:50:03 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 03:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32732; Tue, 1 Oct 96 03:50:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA12050 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 03:47:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id DAA12045 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 03:47:47 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbjnn10935; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 06:47:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06600; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 13:49:09 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07834; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 13:47:21 -0300 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 13:47:20 -0300 (GMT) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-info Cc: Omar Butaiban Subject: .pine.debug (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i want to move all the files that concern pine from my home directory to another direcotory can you help me on that please i mean moving .pine-debug and .pinerc thanks *********************************************************************** *** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** college of engineering *** ** Computer Engineering *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** Kuwait University *** ** *** ** *********************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 04:07:38 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 04:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00357; Tue, 1 Oct 96 04:07:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA20965 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 04:05:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA20951 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 04:05:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v82Zo-00038BC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 04:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zach@world.std.com (Zachary H Leber) Subject: Re: how to change "To:" header with Bcc:? Message-Id: References: Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:34:19 GMT Ted Chang (chang@gusun.georgetown.edu) wrote: : When I use Bcc, it hides all the addresses that I am mailing to. However, : the header it uses says "To: Undisclosed recipients;". is there any way i : can set the title of the To: header so that it doesn't look like i'm : sending out top secret information? I'd like to set the To: header so : that it gives the name of my mailing list. : please email me at chang@gusun.georgetown.edu : ted From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 06:19:49 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 06:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05006; Tue, 1 Oct 96 06:19:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA24749 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 06:14:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA24744 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 06:14:54 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 1 Oct 96 21:20:09 +0800 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 21:13:52 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko To: Omar Butaiban Cc: pine-info Subject: Re: .pine.debug (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: > i want to move all the files that concern pine from my home > directory to another direcotory > can you help me on that please > i mean moving .pine-debug and .pinerc Unless you have a "very" good reason for this it is just not advised. It will endup causing you more problems than it is worth. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 07:08:12 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 07:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02667; Tue, 1 Oct 96 07:08:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA17069 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 07:04:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lex.lccc.edu (lex.lccc.edu [198.139.135.128]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA17062 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 07:04:40 -0700 Received: (asc0@localhost) by lex.lccc.edu (8.6.8.1/SCA-6.6) id OAA00402; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 14:06:19 GMT Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:06:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Anna Colosi To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: reading attached files Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am a new user and can not read attachments set to me. They are word documents that I can not read. Do I have to config something? Thanks. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Anna Colosi $ Director of Instructional Technology $ Lehigh Carbon Community College $ Schnecksville, PA 18078 $ (610)799-1591 $ fax (610)799-1527 $ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 07:58:42 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 07:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04972; Tue, 1 Oct 96 07:58:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA18071 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 07:54:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hazel.interpath.com (user-37kb94k.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.148]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA18066 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 07:53:56 -0700 Received: from hazel (charlton@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hazel.interpath.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA00238 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:54:55 -0400 Message-Id: <325130BF.5AF78455@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 10:54:55 -0400 From: "John D. Charlton" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.10 i486) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: changing my "from:" header X-Url: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/95.01/msg00291.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Problem: I have a mailbox named 'jcharlt@mindspring.com' and my linux login id is 'charlton'. I want pine to use 'jdcharlt@mindspring.com as my 'from' address. Please let me know if this is possible with pine. John -------------------------------------------------------------- John D. Charlton, Intelligent Visual Computing (IVC): IVC: charlton@ivc.com, 919-363-0292, ext. 112 MindSpring: jdcharlt@mindspring.com -------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 08:55:38 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 08:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24391; Tue, 1 Oct 96 08:55:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA19773 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 08:50:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA19768 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 08:50:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8753-00038TC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 08:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stefan Kramer Subject: Re: Spell Checker for PC-Pine 3.95 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:00:39 -0700 Message-Id: <324C1647.18C5@CaC.washington.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The URL for the program at its developers' site is now http://clever.net/quinion/mqa/spell.htm -- we'll update our documentation accordingly. Cheryl Thuot wrote: > > I'm looking for a spell checker for PC-Pine 3.95. I've tried the web > sites documented in the release notes but the links do not work. > Specifically, I've tried ftp://oak.oakland/SimTel/win3/wp and > http://clever.net/quinion/spell/Where.htm. Does anyone know where I might > find this? > > Thanks. -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu University of Washington Computing & Communications ------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 09:05:15 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 09:05:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09739; Tue, 1 Oct 96 09:05:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA28826 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 08:59:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from litton.net (master.litton.net [159.201.17.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA28821 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 08:59:42 -0700 Received: from littongcs.com by litton.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA19634; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 09:00:37 -0700 Received: from cie0.littongcs.com by littongcs.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA21363; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 09:00:32 -0700 Received: from loo.littongcs.com by cie0.littongcs.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA23951; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 09:00:27 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 08:59:15 -0700 () From: Joseph Loo To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pruning Files Message-Id: X-X-Sender: loo@cie_0.littongcs.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I am running pc-pine for Win 95, using version 3.95 of the 32 bit version. In general the product works pretty nice. I have a problem with the automatic pruning facilities. I configured pine to use a remote file as the sent-mail. This allows me to look at the sent mail regardless of the platform. Whenever the beginning of the month rolls in, the PC-Pine version nevers prompts me to prune the sent-mail. It updates the prune date with no problem. I then went into the configuration and altered the prune-folders. I set it with the following configuration: {cie0}~/mail/sent-mail and {cie0}~/mail/[] sent-mail. Both configuration does not seem to allow the automatic pruning. Am I doing something wrong? Joseph Loo Litton Guidance & Control 19601 Nordhoff St. N86 Northridge, CA 91324-2422 (818) 886-2211 x2336 loo@littongcs.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 10:18:42 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12278; Tue, 1 Oct 96 10:18:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA01531 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:16:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA01526 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:16:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v88Lg-00038BC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 10:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Connections to IMAP server using PINE Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 13:56:14 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: To fix this problem, try the following steps: Debugging step 1: What happens when you issue the command rsh server exec /etc/rimapd (substitute your server's name for the word "server"). Did you get the 30 second delay? Debugging step 2: Now, try the command telnet server 143 Did you presently get a line starting with "* OK" with no 30 second delay? (Type "x logout" followed by a return to quit). Diagnostic step: If the answer to both debugging steps is "yes", then the problem is that your site does not have the "rimap" preauthentication capability enabled. Normally, this would not be a problem; rimap would just be refused and it would fall into ordinary IMAP. But, your site also has disabled rsh. Unfortunately, the way that it was disabled is one that the rsh program does not recognize. Most Internet protocols recognize an IP or TCP level "refused" condition as meaning "go away", but the authors of rsh decided that "refused" means "keep on trying" instead. Most common methods of disabling services, such as router filters and TCP wrappers, use a "refused" condition and don't know how to do rsh's own funky way of refusing ("permission denied"). Remedial step for Pine 3.95: If you have Pine 3.95, look for the following entry in .pinerc: # Zero disables rsh altogether. rsh-open-timeout=15 Change that "15" (or "5" or whatever it's set to) to "0". Remedial step for older versions of Pine: In .pinerc, change all references to the problematic server to include ":143" after the system name. For example, inbox-path={myserver}INBOX should be changed to inbox-path={myserver:143}INBOX Be sure to also check your folder-collections and incoming folders as necessary. Don't change any NNTP references (e.g. news-collections). If this doesn't seem to be what you need to do, please write again. On Mon, 30 Sep 1996, Peter Beckman wrote: > We've got a seperate mail server running IMAP, and we use pine to get > our mail. Well, this sucks because it takes almost 30 seconds to get > my login/password prompt. WHY!!!! Does it ALWAYS take this long, or > are we doing something wrong? The machines are physically next to > eachother, and we have twisted pair going right to it, and traceroute > yields a 2.0ns access time. What's going on? How do we fix it? > > Please e-mail responses. > > Peter > -- > Peter Beckman The Apartment, Alexandria, VA > beckman@purplecow.com http://www.purplecow.com/~beckman/ > > -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 10:29:09 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31482; Tue, 1 Oct 96 10:29:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA22910 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:26:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sub.sonic.net (sub.sonic.net [199.4.118.8]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id KAA22903 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:26:38 -0700 Received: from sonic.net (lav@sonic.net [199.4.118.11]) by sub.sonic.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24343 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:26:36 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:26:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Lavender Rose, Dancin' with the Moon" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PICO Editor...? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi... Can you tell me where I can get the PICO Editor...? Thanks. :) Lavender Rose @}->--LR--<-{@ lav@sonic.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 11:24:24 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:24:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14156; Tue, 1 Oct 96 11:24:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA24793 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:21:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA24786 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:21:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v89MJ-00038BC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 11:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Subject: Re: PICO Editor...? Date: 1 Oct 1996 18:04:58 GMT Message-Id: <52rmga$f4t@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: lav@sonic.net ("Lavender Rose, Dancin' with the Moon") writes: >Hi... >Can you tell me where I can get the PICO Editor...? Isn't it included with the Pine distribution? -- Georg Schwarz (schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de, PGP 2.6ui) Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254 FAX -21130 IRC kuroi Technische Universität Berlin http://itp1.physik.tu-berlin.de/~schwarz/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 11:28:16 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14306; Tue, 1 Oct 96 11:28:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA03728 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:25:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from wetlands.nwi.fws.gov (wetlands.nwi.fws.gov [192.189.43.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA03720 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:25:49 -0700 Received: from localhost by wetlands.nwi.fws.gov (5.x/SMI-4.1) id AA23971; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 14:25:51 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 14:25:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Fritz X-Sender: tim@wetlands To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: trying to prune more folders Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm trying to get pine to prune folders in addition to the fcc folder. I added: pruned-folders=~/Mail/autosave-person1, ~/Mail/autosave-person2 to my .pinerc. These are folders where I have procmail save messages from certain individuals I made need later. I wasn't asked about pruning these folders this morning. What am I doing wrong. Thanks ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Fritz, Computer Operator | tim@wetlands.nwi.fws.gov U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service | voice 813.570.5426 National Wetlands Inventory | http://www.nwi.fws.gov St. Petersburg, FL | 27 51 35 N -82 38 31 W ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 11:39:23 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11315; Tue, 1 Oct 96 11:39:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA04152 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:36:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA04147 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:36:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v89aj-00038BC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 11:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: signature: how to use or not use??? Date: 27 Sep 1996 07:46:13 GMT Message-Id: <52g0o5$mci@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: Un jour, Enrico Degli Espoti Elisi (edeelisi@peabody.jhu.edu) affirmait publiquement que: | I have a signature written with "pico" (pico .signature) and when I use | pine the sign. automatically appears on the bottom. If I don't want to | send my signature without delete the file .signature, what can I do? Deleting the lines of the signature in your message by hand (with ^K). HTH... (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ La civilisation n'est autre chose que le mode de végétation propre à l'humanité. -- V. Hugo From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 12:02:40 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 12:02:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15473; Tue, 1 Oct 96 12:02:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA25988 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:56:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA25983 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:56:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v89wc-00038BC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 11:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan Richards Subject: Re: Delivery Filtering into folders Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:56:04 -0400 Message-Id: References: <52pthd$cf9@swen.emba.uvm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <52pthd$cf9@swen.emba.uvm.edu> On 1 Oct 1996, Steve Moyer wrote: > I would like to know if there is any way to have mail automatically > placed into folders based on the "to" or "reply to" address. The purpose is to > have mail from mailing lists automatically placed into the appropriate > folders before I even use Pine. Can't with Pine. You can do it with procmail though. Try 'man procmail'. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 12:59:17 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 12:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16677; Tue, 1 Oct 96 12:59:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA06585 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 12:56:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA06580 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 12:56:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8Aug-00038TC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 12:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hchapman@blue.seas.upenn.edu (Speed Racer) Subject: ^W [^Y/^V] - Vanished Date: 1 Oct 1996 19:35:53 GMT Message-Id: <52rrqp$ior@netnews.upenn.edu> I remember that these commands used to be in pico. What happened to them? For anyone who doesn't know: ^W - Where is followed by ^Y - beginning of file ^V - end of file R. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 15:29:53 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 15:29:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20639; Tue, 1 Oct 96 15:29:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA03422 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 15:26:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA03414 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 15:26:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8DC5-00038BC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 15:21 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ed Greshko" Subject: Re: Undelete??? Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 23:51:19 +0800 Message-Id: <01bbaee7.96f15f60$1511b381@edspc17> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Colleen Bridge wrote in article ... > > Is it possible to undelete files in pine?? I deleted all of my files by > mistake (long story) and want them back, some are very important to me > (longer story) :) I assume you d(elete) (mark for deletion) then x(punge). If so, you "may" be out of luck. If you are running PC-Pine and Win95 they may still be in your "Recycle-Bin". If you are on U*IX pine maybe your sysadmin had done a file system backup. Good Luck From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 19:19:42 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 19:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15113; Tue, 1 Oct 96 19:19:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA19595 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 19:17:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA19590 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 19:17:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8Gmq-00038TC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 19:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brian Barnes Subject: pine 3.95 annoyance report Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 18:56:59 -0700 Message-Id: <3251CBEB.1723@uts.cc.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I have the option "sort inbox by date" (vs. default of arrival) enabled, when pine starts it leaves an annoying "Sorting inbox - 100% complete" (or something to that affect) message on the main menu. Couldn't this be cleared after a second or so? When it sends mail, and gets 100% complete, that message doesn't stay on the screen. Seems one would like to be consistent. This is unix pine compiled on DEC OSF, etc, latest verisons, on alphas. Brian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 19:24:07 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 19:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27106; Tue, 1 Oct 96 19:24:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA11088 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 19:22:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA11083 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 19:22:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8GtY-00038TC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 19:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert F Evans Jr Subject: Re: y Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 12:30:08 -0700 Message-Id: References: <52h1ud$er@clem.mscd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <52h1ud$er@clem.mscd.edu> On 27 Sep 1996, SPRAGUE MARIAT wrote: > > > Regards, Bob =============================================================== Robert Evans bob@purdue.edu Coordinator of Technical Services (317)494-2658 work Purdue University http://www.soe.purdue.edu/staff/misc/bob/ School of Education, LAEB 6139 (317)494-5832 fax West Lafayette, IN 47907 bob@soe.purdue.edu =============================================================== "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 20:29:14 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 20:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25952; Tue, 1 Oct 96 20:29:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA12191 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 20:26:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dub-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com (dub-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com [149.174.213.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA12186 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 20:26:18 -0700 Received: from GATEWAY.COMPUSERVE.COM..compuserve.com (md43-018.compuserve.com [195.232.54.18]) by dub-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA04481.; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:26:16 -0400 Message-Id: <3251D29C.2E1B@compuserve.com> Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 04:25:32 +0200 From: uwe <100610.1673@compuserve.com> Organization: brains X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 [de] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: anonymous X-Url: http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/pine-info/95.02/msg00527.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i urgently need an anonymous server to move in the net as i have to without getting troubles as had like murder threads just by posting teddybear gifs instead of child porn just to make it little more dificult to find these cruel pics can you help? tell me what to do its really urgent. i would apreciate a step by step instruction if possible, i have no probs paying this service uwe z. KITSUP! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 22:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31188; Tue, 1 Oct 96 22:29:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA23124 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 22:27:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA23119 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 22:27:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8Jp1-00038BC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 22:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: meacham@teleport.com (Guy Meacham) Subject: Re: .forward filter? Date: 2 Oct 1996 05:18:47 GMT Message-Id: <52stvn$e0t@nadine.teleport.com> References: On Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:02:11 -0700 Michael Darius wrote: : I have been trying for ages to create a filter for my forward file. : or figure out another way to accomplish this task... : I am going through an ISP who is offering me a virtual hosting system. : In turn, anything@alliedproductions.com is funneled to one account. : I have been trying to make a filter to be able to make it so that if : it says a specific user@alliedproductions.com then it will be forwarded : to their email address... : an example of what I have tried: : if for: jan@alliedproductions.com then to: jan@anotherdomain.com : if for: dave@alliedproductions.com then to: dave@anotherdomain.com : : none of which have worked... If you know the format for which this should : look, or have any information regarding this subject please send mail to: : darius@alliedproductions.com or, post to this newsgroup... : : : thanks for your time....Michael Darius I do not think you can do this just with your .forward file I think you need to look at something like procmail. check out man procmail and man procmailex. -- Guy Meacham.......................finger -l meacham@teleport.com Rippingale Nursery...............http://www.teleport.com/~meacham/ . "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." -- Thomas Edison From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 22:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02193; Tue, 1 Oct 96 22:47:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA23372 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 22:46:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id WAA23364 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 22:46:01 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbjql29639; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 01:45:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07596; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:46:57 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA12392; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:45:04 -0300 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:45:03 -0300 (GMT) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info Subject: Re: .pine.debug (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: > > > i want to move all the files that concern pine from my home > > directory to another direcotory > > can you help me on that please > > i mean moving .pine-debug and .pinerc > > Unless you have a "very" good reason for this it is just > not advised. It will endup causing you more problems than it > is worth. > > Regards, yes , i have a good reason , my home directory is full of hidden files , so i just i want my home directory to be not filled with these hidden files so i just want to move them to a directory called .pine in this directory all files related to pine are there so can you help me please one more thing , can i move .pinerc file from my home directory? *********************************************************************** *** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** college of engineering *** ** Computer Engineering *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** Kuwait University *** ** *** ** *********************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:15:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30568; Tue, 1 Oct 96 23:15:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA15133 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:12:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA15128 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:12:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8KSU-00038BC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 23:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Simon Oldfield Subject: [Q] IMAP mailbox access from linux pine Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:53:05 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII All my email comes to a single logon on a unix machine at work (lets call it fbloggs@workmachine.somedomain). I sit at a PC, so I am using PC-Pine to read and send mail and it all works a treat. At home I have a linux machine with access to the internet via a service provider (lets call it fred@homemachine.anotherdomain). I have now installed pine 3.95 on it and can also read and send email from there. My PC-Pine setup asks me for a username and passwd once when I start it up and from then on it all just works. Unfortunately my linux pine asks me for a username and password every time I turn around. Is there any way I can make it behave similarly to the PC-Pine and just ask me the once at startup ? I have a number of folder collections on the email machine, and my linux box is set up to use the email host for sending mail as well (rather than using a local sendmail setup). Please reply by email to S.Oldfield@nla.gov.au. Thanks in advance Simon Oldfield _____________________________________________________________________ Simon Oldfield Email: S.Oldfield@nla.gov.au CSC Australia Phone: +61-6-262-1128 A Unit of Computer Sciences Corporation Fax: +61-6-273-2116 _____________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:34:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30410; Tue, 1 Oct 96 23:34:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA24035 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:32:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA24030 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:32:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8KnR-00038BC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 23:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mist@cyberus.ca Subject: Newsgroups header in Pine and Eudora Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 05:47:51 GMT Message-Id: <52t00j$iu@lex.zippo.com> Try as I might, I cannot find a way of getting either Eudora Lite or Unix PINE to let me type in a "Newsgroups" header which I need for bunging an article through a mail2news gateway. Is it possible? How please? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26034; Tue, 1 Oct 96 23:45:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA15590 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:42:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA15583 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:42:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8Kz3-00038BC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 23:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Clary Harridge Subject: default editor Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 13:07:30 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can someone please suggest how I can set the default editor to jove? I have tried combinations of # enable-alternate-editor-cmd enable-alternate-editor-implicitly editor=/usr/local/bin/jove in my .pinerc without success. I can get into jove using ^_ but how do I get it to come up automatically? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 01:57:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32400; Wed, 2 Oct 96 01:57:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA25837 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 01:52:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA25832 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 01:52:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8Mz8-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 01:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: D.J.Hogeweg@CRI.LeidenUniv.NL (Dick Hogeweg) Subject: Re: how to change "To:" header with Bcc:? Date: Wed, 02 Oct 96 06:36:35 GMT Message-Id: <52t2hl$ciq@highway.leidenuniv.nl> References: In article , Ted Chang wrote: >When I use Bcc, it hides all the addresses that I am mailing to. However, >the header it uses says "To: Undisclosed recipients;". is there any way i >can set the title of the To: header so that it doesn't look like i'm >sending out top secret information? I'd like to set the To: header so >that it gives the name of my mailing list. Sure you can look at "empty-header-message" of setup configuration. Kind regards, Dick Hogeweg Email: D.J.Hogeweg@CRI.LeidenUniv.NL WWW: http://www.LeidenUniv.NL CRI, instituut voor telecommunicatie _______ en computerdienstverlening | Postbus 9512, 2300 RA Leiden Rijks Universiteit Leiden | tel. +31 71 5276900, fax +31 71 5276967 | | | | | | | - From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 01:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32523; Wed, 2 Oct 96 01:58:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA17301 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 01:56:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from goliat.eik.bme.hu (goliat.eik.bme.hu [152.66.250.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id BAA17296 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 01:55:58 -0700 Received: from localhost (dico@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by goliat.eik.bme.hu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA26821 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:54:16 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:54:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: DIAMANT Peter To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: What is it ? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please send me an info ... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 03:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19462; Wed, 2 Oct 96 03:56:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA18718 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 03:53:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA18713 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 03:53:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8Ot8-00038UC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 03:50 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dmartin@iastate.edu (David Martin) Subject: phoney INBOX for PC Pine? Date: 2 Oct 1996 10:32:15 GMT Message-Id: <52tgbf$967@news.iastate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 I wish to use PC Pine to send but not receive. My site has no IMAP server. How can I configure PC Pine so that it does not fail with an error message that it can't open the INBOX. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 04:50:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30440; Wed, 2 Oct 96 04:50:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA27989 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 04:48:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA27984 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 04:48:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8Pjn-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 04:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: header question Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 18:57:45 GMT Message-Id: <529ar3$nvm@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: Put your list address in the "Lcc" header instead of the "To" header and your recipients will see the list name in the "To" field rather than all the individual addresses. If you're using a version of Pine prior to 3.95, use the "Bcc" header instead and put your own address in the "To" header. Bcc and Lcc can be revealed using CTRL-R while in the header section of your message, if they're not already visible. -Ram Basu -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ On Fri, 20 Sep 1996 19:07:35 -0400, Scabby wrote: >I have a mailing list for a club here at school. The problem is that when >I do a mailing, the other students have to scroll through all the >addresses of the other members. Is there a way to suppress this? I have >been all through the configuration and can't find one. Thanks for any help. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32011; Wed, 2 Oct 96 05:06:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA28148 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:03:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id FAA28143 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:03:19 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbjrk03203; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:03:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA09307; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:44:46 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA15662; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:42:58 -0300 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 11:21:41 -0300 (GMT) From: roam X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: "Alfredo E. Alvarenga" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. In-Reply-To: <323AAE33.591A5057@capecod.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:42:46 -0300 (GMT) Resent-From: Omar Butaiban Resent-To: pine-info Resent-Message-Id: Hi, can i make aliasses for hostnames like this: kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw can i put instead of that server a nickname , { kuc01 } and e-mail all the users that on that server by for example instead of el941826@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw i can put el941826@kuc01 and md950117@kuc01 thanks Omar Butaiban From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31349; Wed, 2 Oct 96 05:06:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA19734 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:03:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA19729 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:03:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8Pyz-00038TC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 05:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: .forward filter? Date: 2 Oct 1996 11:16:58 GMT Message-Id: <52tiva$n6m@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: Un jour, Michael Darius (darius@alliedproductions.com) affirmait publiquement que: | I have been trying to make a filter to be able to make it so that if it | says a specific user@alliedproductions.com then it will be forwarded to | their email address... Well, you could ask your ISP what filter program(s) he offers... But I guest that "filter" (from ELM package) and "procmail" should be installed. | an example of what I have tried: | if for: jan@alliedproductions.com then to: jan@anotherdomain.com | if for: dave@alliedproductions.com then to: dave@anotherdomain.com For exact syntax, please read the manpages... man filter or man procmail HTH... (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ On considère comme normal de vénérer, en général, la virginité et d'aspirer ardemment, en particulier, à sa destruction. -- K. Kraus From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:21:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29877; Wed, 2 Oct 96 05:21:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA28345 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:18:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA28340 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:18:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8QAA-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 05:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: spraguem@clem.mscd.edu (SPRAGUE MARIAT) Subject: y Date: 27 Sep 1996 17:12:45 GMT Message-Id: <52h1ud$er@clem.mscd.edu> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00664; Wed, 2 Oct 96 05:22:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA19931 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:18:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA19926 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:18:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8QD2-00038TC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 05:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: 94Eshum@uxmail.ust.hk (Shum Wai Leung) Subject: How to send mail to a GROUP and use .sig Date: 2 Oct 1996 11:52:13 GMT Message-Id: <52tl1d$2e1@ustsu10.ust.hk> As title, I want to know to use send mail to a group of people. As I know that in Unix mail, we can creat a file to make this function. But what can I do in Unix Pine. Moreover I want to attach .sig in my mail. Should I creat a file .sig in my home directory ? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01768; Wed, 2 Oct 96 05:43:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA28503 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:31:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id FAA28498 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:31:28 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbjrl06334; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:27:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA09327; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:29:00 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA15942; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:26:51 -0300 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:26:50 -0300 (GMT) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: "Ashraf M. Ezz" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine In-Reply-To: <323FF484.55DE@eis.com.eg> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How can i install pine on SUN ? I am not a super user ! *********************************************************************** *** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** college of engineering *** ** Computer Engineering *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** Kuwait University *** ** *** ** *********************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 06:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01357; Wed, 2 Oct 96 06:34:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA20815 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 06:29:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA20810 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 06:29:02 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 2 Oct 96 21:34:07 +0800 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:27:47 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko To: Omar Butaiban Cc: "Ashraf M. Ezz" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: > How can i install pine on SUN ? > I am not a super user ! It need not be installed in a "system" area. You can have it in your (for example) $HOME/bin directory. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 06:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02174; Wed, 2 Oct 96 06:39:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA29326 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 06:37:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com (dekalb.vf.mmc.com [192.35.35.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id GAA29321 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 06:37:40 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.lmco.com ([166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12659; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:36:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.lmco.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA12047; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:36:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (4.1/LMCO SunOS Server Nondomain-1.1) id AA29107; Wed, 2 Oct 96 09:35:10 EDT Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:35:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman X-Sender: sugarman@mmpcs1 Reply-To: Don Sugarman To: Omar Butaiban Cc: "Ashraf M. Ezz" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: > > How can i install pine on SUN ? > I am not a super user ! Anonymous ftp to ftp.cac.washington.edu, cd to pine/unix-bin-compressed, set binary mode, and mget *.sun.Z When you get the files in your home directory, uncompress each, and chmod +x each executable. You will have pine, pico, and pilot. I think that's all you need to do. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 07:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10927; Wed, 2 Oct 96 07:07:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA29719 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 07:04:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id HAA29714 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 07:04:33 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbjrs19522; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:02:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA09394; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:03:56 -0300 Received: from bahra by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA16338; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:01:51 -0300 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:14:01 -0300 (GMT) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@bahra To: Ed Greshko Cc: "Ashraf M. Ezz" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII can you tell me how to install pine please?? *********************************************************************** *** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** college of engineering *** ** Computer Engineering *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** Kuwait University *** ** *** ** *********************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 07:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30773; Wed, 2 Oct 96 07:14:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA29835 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 07:10:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA29830 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 07:10:09 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 2 Oct 96 22:15:24 +0800 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:09:04 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko To: Omar Butaiban Cc: "Ashraf M. Ezz" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: > can you tell me how to install pine please?? Your question is very broad. Do you need to know information about the compliation of pine or will you simply acquire pre compiled binaries from the ftp.cac.washington.edu? If you acquire the pre-compiled binaries for the platform you are using you could simply place it in a directory which is contained in your PATH and change permissions to 555 or 111. If this is not sufficient to answer your request then I'm afraid you'll have to be a bit more specific as to what type of information you need. BTW, if I'm not mistaken the pine source code comes with a README file that will be of valuable assistance if you decide to read it. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 07:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02042; Wed, 2 Oct 96 07:47:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA00508 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 07:43:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA00503 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 07:43:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8STg-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 07:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: pine Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:41:14 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 2 Oct 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: > can you tell me how to install pine please?? That is much too large a task to discuss briefly on this newsgroup. Please fetch the Pine distribution and read the documentation. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00004; Wed, 2 Oct 96 08:41:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA23280 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:38:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA23275 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:38:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8TMf-00038TC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 08:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mgraham@s-cwis.unomaha.edu (Michael J. Graham) Subject: Pine for DB/UX 4.11?? Date: 27 Sep 1996 14:57:11 -0500 Message-Id: <52hbin$q9a@s-cwis.unomaha.edu> Hi I'm wondering if anyone has gotten pine to compile for the DG/UX platform? I'm having a terrible time getting it to compile and am wondering if anyone has gotten it to work Mike mgraham@s-cwis.unomaha.edu -- -Mike mgraham@s-cwis.unomaha.edu GO HUSKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05017; Wed, 2 Oct 96 08:51:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA02163 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:48:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.tamu.edu (MAIL.TAMU.EDU [128.194.103.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA02158 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:48:54 -0700 Received: from VMS2.TAMU.EDU (VLP7825 #VMS_PID=204580C8 #Image=DSA200+[PUBLIC_DOMAIN.AXP.][NET]PINE-3_91.EXE@VMS2.TAMU.EDU [128.194.103.14]) by mail.tamu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.10) with SMTP id KAA27040 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:48:53 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:48:53 +0000 From: "PEART, VICKI LEE " X-Sender: VLP7825@VMS2.TAMU.EDU To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: abort problems Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I keep getting this messages back saying file aborted, and then I get closed out of the system. Or I'll try to delete and it won't let me. Please help Vicki Peart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06160; Wed, 2 Oct 96 09:15:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA02820 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:08:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA02815 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:08:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8Toh-00038UC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 09:06 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lazarus@netaxs.com (Methuselah) Subject: viewer-hdrs setting in .pinerc Date: 2 Oct 1996 15:55:57 GMT Message-Id: <52u3ad$fbv@netaxs.com> This setting seems to ask for a list of the headers one wishes to see when viewing messages. Is there some way to set it to view *all* the headers, without listing every conceivable one? I tried "viewer-hdrs=all" and pine displayed no headers at all - that was amusing. The default "viewer-hdrs=" does not show all the headers one sees by viewing the INBOX with other programs (such as "more"). Thanks for any advice. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21369; Wed, 2 Oct 96 09:18:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA03060 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:13:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca (asl7.asl-labs.bc.ca [192.139.196.66]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA03055 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:13:43 -0700 Received: from grizzly by asl-labs.bc.ca (8.6.13/200.15.1.2) id JAA22869; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:13:41 -0700 Message-Id: <199610021613.JAA22869@asl-labs.bc.ca > From: Brian Hampson Date: Wed, 02 Oct 96 09:13:36 -0700 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine for DG/UX 4.11?? In-Reply-To: <52hbin$q9a@s-cwis.unomaha.edu> X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.14 (Unregistered) Hi, On 09/27/96 at 02:57 PM, you said: >Hi > I'm wondering if anyone has gotten pine to compile for the >DG/UX platform? I'm having a terrible time getting it to compile and am >wondering if anyone has gotten it to work DG/UX 4.11 MU02 - no problems that I can recall over here. -- "A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila ." Brian P. Hampson ASL Analytical Service Laboratories Ltd System Administrator, Vancouver, BC (604)253-4188 ----------------- http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/ ---------------------------- These opinions are MINE I tell you ....all mine!!! (nobody else wants them) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05600; Wed, 2 Oct 96 09:29:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA24875 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:26:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id JAA24870 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:26:38 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: [139.141.1.3]) id QQbjsb17811; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:26:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA09541; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:28:10 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA16944; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:26:20 -0300 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:26:16 -0300 (GMT) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi , i have threee folders in Folder-collection and i want to do this i want the mails that come from pine-info news group to go to the folder pine and the mails that come from emacs newsgroup to go to emacs folder can i do this in pine ? i mean can i let an email messege that i know where is from tha go a a specific folder ? thanks *********************************************************************** *** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** college of engineering *** ** Computer Engineering *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** Kuwait University *** ** *** ** *********************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29139; Wed, 2 Oct 96 09:44:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA25342 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:41:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA25335 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:41:32 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 3 Oct 96 00:46:45 +0800 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 00:40:26 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: Methuselah Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: viewer-hdrs setting in .pinerc In-Reply-To: <52u3ad$fbv@netaxs.com> Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 2 Oct 1996, Methuselah wrote: > This setting seems to ask for a list of the headers one wishes to see when > viewing messages. > > Is there some way to set it to view *all* the headers, without listing > every conceivable one? I tried "viewer-hdrs=all" and pine displayed no > headers at all - that was amusing. The default "viewer-hdrs=" does not > show all the headers one sees by viewing the INBOX with other programs > (such as "more"). > Look in setup/config.... Find: [X] enable-full-header-cmd Read the Help on that command and see if it meets your needs. With that command enabled you can hit "h" when vewing a message and *all* the headers will appear. Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04132; Wed, 2 Oct 96 10:09:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA04582 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:05:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id KAA04577 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:05:05 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:00:14 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id SAA09503; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:04:56 +0100 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:04:56 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Methuselah Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: viewer-hdrs setting in .pinerc In-Reply-To: <52u3ad$fbv@netaxs.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" The idea of "viewer-hdrs" is that you _explicitly_ list the headers you want showing by default. If you want to see _all_ of the headers of a message don't try and do it by fiddling with "viewer-hdrs". Instead enable the "full headers" command in Pine's Setup Configuration screen and then give the "H" command when viewing a message. The change in the Setup Configuration screen remains in effect for future Pine sessions. The "H" command remains in effect (certainly for the current folder, I can't remember if for subsequent folders) until you leave Pine or toggle it off by another "H" command. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 2 Oct 1996, Methuselah wrote: > This setting seems to ask for a list of the headers one wishes to see when > viewing messages. > > Is there some way to set it to view *all* the headers, without listing > every conceivable one? I tried "viewer-hdrs=all" and pine displayed no > headers at all - that was amusing. The default "viewer-hdrs=" does not > show all the headers one sees by viewing the INBOX with other programs > (such as "more"). > > Thanks for any advice. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06982; Wed, 2 Oct 96 10:59:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA06316 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:55:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from umbc7.umbc.edu (f-umbc7.umbc.edu [130.85.3.7]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA06309 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:55:50 -0700 Received: from localhost (zhangwob@localhost) by umbc7.umbc.edu (8.6.12/Umbc) with SMTP id NAA17516 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:55:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: umbc7.umbc.edu: zhangwob owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:55:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Diana Zhang Wobus, CHPDM, UMBC" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How to create lists of addresses? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Even since Pine was updated (about a month or so ago at my site), I can no longer create separate lists of addresses where I group addresses. The list options that was on the older version of Pine somehow is not there anymore. What happened and how do I create lists? --Diana From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09822; Wed, 2 Oct 96 11:46:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA07555 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:39:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA07549 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:39:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8WA2-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 11:36 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: d92-msa@dront.nada.kth.se (Magnus Sandberg) Subject: Incoming Folders Date: 2 Oct 1996 17:28:40 GMT Message-Id: <52u8o8$337@news.kth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have a problem with incoming folders. I am using procmail to sort incoming mail and I'm trying to use 'Incoming Message Folders' feature in Pine . I use 'A' to add a new folder, pressing return on 'remote server' and stating a path to the folder (ex. ~d92-msa/incoming-mail/abc_list). So far so good. I can access all my messages but it's immpossible to use TAB to get to the next New message. What do I do wrong? If this problem is solved will Pine alert me if on incoming mail in my extra folders? thanks /M -- Be Ye Not Lost Among Precepts of Order... - The Book of Uterus 1;5 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11467; Wed, 2 Oct 96 12:01:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA29675 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:59:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA29668 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:59:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8WQb-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 11:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zach@world.std.com (Zachary H Leber) Subject: Re: How to get INBOX on starting ??? Message-Id: References: <52u2lf$16i@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:12:14 GMT pine -i Patrick M. McMillin (patmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu) wrote: : How do I configure my pine to go directly to : inbox upon starting the porgram ? : |) : / : /| Patrick M. McMillin : / |__ The University of Texas at Austin : ( (|_ ) patrick-mc@mail.utexas.edu : \_|_/ : J From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11699; Wed, 2 Oct 96 12:26:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA08877 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:24:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA08872 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:24:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8Wqa-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 12:20 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dara Ghahremani Subject: Pine for Mac? Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 17:05:38 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Are there any plans to make Pine for Macintosh? I'm sure this is a common question, though, I haven't seen any info about this anywhere. Thanks, Dara From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15170; Wed, 2 Oct 96 14:06:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA03335 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:59:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA03327 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:59:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8YIV-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 13:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Becki (aka Gidget)" Subject: NEED to bounce Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 06:24:11 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can someone please tell me if it is possible (and if so how in detailled description- step by step) if I can automatically bounce mail from a a particular address so I don't even ever see it in my inbox? I'm using Pine 3.95 if that helps. Please reply by email to s441748@student.gu.edu.au thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:42:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15977; Wed, 2 Oct 96 14:42:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id OAA12955 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:39:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA12950 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:39:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8YzD-00038VC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 14:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andyb@coat.com (Andy Behrens) Subject: Re: How do I stop (or increase the delay) for mailbox checkpointing? Date: 2 Oct 1996 19:57:07 GMT Message-Id: <52uhej$e7a@pub.news.uk.psi.net> References: Tom Zerucha (root@deimos.ceddec.com) wrote: > OK, I get two asterisks, so it is saving the state of the mailbox. How > do I make it stop doing this every few minutes or so? It is really > annoying since it will buffer keystrokes for the 10-30 seconds or more it > takes, so I may inadvertently delete messages or worse. A checkpoint that takes 30 seconds is taking too long. Rather than increase the checkpoint interval, you would be better off fixing the problem. Unless your mailbox is truly enormous (say, bigger than 10 Mb) the delay is probably caused by a mailbox that is NFS-mounted from another machine. This is definitely not a recommended configuration -- it will certainly be slow; and file locking across NFS has timing problems that increase the risk (admittedly small) of corrupting the contents of the mailbox. If your mailbox is really located on another host, the best solution is to install an IMAP server on that machine and configure Pine to access your mail via IMAP. The Pine distribution includes such a server (imapd) if you don't already have one. But if you feel that you have no alternative but to increase the checkpoint time, you can adjust that by redefining CHECK_POINT_TIME or CHECK_POINT_FREQ and recompiling. These symbols are defined in the include file "pine/osdep/os-???.h" (where ??? is the appropriate code for your operating system). Andy -- Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. (Anne Herbert) Andy Behrens Burlington Coat Factory, Schoolhouse Lane, Etna, N.H. 03750 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:46:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16005; Wed, 2 Oct 96 14:46:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id OAA04561 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:44:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA04554 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:44:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8Z2P-00038YC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 14:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: proper use of fcc Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 18:31:27 GMT Message-Id: <52uc9f$vj@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <325265FB.5146@mayo.edu> I'm using 3.95 and can't remember if 3.91 worked exactly the same, but assuming it does... In Pine on your other account, find the section under Config called "customized-hdrs" and add the following: Bcc: maddox@mayo.edu This will ensure that you get a Blind Carbon Copy (other recipients won't see you as a recipient) of all outgoing messages from your other account. If you want to change this for a particular outgoing message, use CTRL-R (rich headers) to view the Bcc field and change or delete the contents. You can also add the Bcc field to your "default-composer-hdrs" section so you'll see it each time. -Ram -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ On Wed, 02 Oct 1996 07:54:19 -0500, maddox wrote: >I am new to PINE and I was hoping someone could tell me exactly how I >could accomplish the following: >I have an email address here and a different one on another campus. I >read mail both places. I would like to configure PINE at my other >address to automatically forward a copy of outgoing messages from >there to my address here. That PINE is running on a VMS system, and >the version number is 3.91 I believe. What exactly do I type between >the quotation marks to accomplish this (presently no fcc is being >used, and the null string "" is all that is there when I looked at the >configuration program). From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:51:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02545; Wed, 2 Oct 96 14:51:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id OAA13220 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:48:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mhub1.tc.umn.edu (mhub1.tc.umn.edu [128.101.131.51]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA13212 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:48:44 -0700 Received: from maroon.tc.umn.edu by mhub1.tc.umn.edu; Wed, 2 Oct 96 16:48:43 -0500 Received: from zone7-14.chem.umn.edu by maroon.tc.umn.edu; Wed, 2 Oct 96 16:48:42 -0500 Message-Id: <32529FF7.5D2A@maroon.tc.umn.edu> Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 17:01:43 +0000 From: Yohaan John X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: CC in PINE X-Url: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/current/msg00019.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In using PINE, how do I configure it such that when I respond to an emailing, it does not ask me whether I want to be a sent a copy or not? All the mail I send is being collected under "sent-mail", and so I don't want it to always ask me whether I wish to receive a copy of my response or not. I have tried playing around with reconfiguring it . . . but to no avail. Thanks a lot. Looking forward to your response. Yohaan John. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16803; Wed, 2 Oct 96 15:23:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id PAA14124 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:19:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA14118 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:19:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8ZaR-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 15:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: shared addressbook? Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:54:53 -0700 Message-Id: References: <01bbaa6e$9e458020$5ff8f184@sledge> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <01bbaa6e$9e458020$5ff8f184@sledge> On 24 Sep 1996, Markus Roskothen wrote: > To who may know it, > what is the difference between shared and gobal addressbooks? I understand > the idea of these two but not how to implement shared addressbooks. > I went through the pine FAQ and the archive and there is some info about > global addressbooks. I would appreciate if someone can inform me about > shared addressbooks and how to implement them. Global addressbooks are usually shared by several users. Personal addressbooks can also be shared by several users. All you need to do is have everyone specify the same file/path name and set the file protections so that everyone has access to them. Note that Pine does not implement a full multi-user locking mechanism on addressbooks, so you could run into problems if you have several people trying to simultaneously update the same addressbook... --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16642; Wed, 2 Oct 96 15:24:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id PAA05518 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:19:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA05513 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:19:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8ZaW-00038TC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 15:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "kathleen@telis.org" Subject: Re: attachment troubles Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:54:15 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: In a related way, can someone help me with saving files to your own PC? When I log in to Telis, a menu comes up allowing me to choose Lynx or Pine mail. After I get my mail, and then try to save an email message, it asks for my file name and/or path - everything I have tried has failed; I am assuming the files are being saved on my ISP, Telis. Am I supposed to have my own copy of Pine, rather than just logging on to their version? Or is there something in setup that I am missing? If anyone can answer this I would really appreciate it. kathleen@telis.org On 22 Sep 1996, Carly Elizabeth Hamlett wrote: > To whomever can help me, > I received an email with an attachment that I cannot read. I did as > the directions suggested and saved them as files but cannot access those > files (i.e. cannot even find them now). > If you could send me any information, I would greatly appreciate it. > > Carly Hamlett > chamL01@emory.edu > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02751; Wed, 2 Oct 96 15:39:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id PAA14458 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:34:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA14450 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:34:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8Zmm-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 15:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: NEED to bounce Date: 2 Oct 1996 21:18:53 GMT Message-Id: References: s441748@frodo.student.gu.edu.au (Becki (aka Gidget)): > Can someone please tell me if it is possible (and if so how in detailled > description- step by step) if I can automatically bounce mail from a a > particular address so I don't even ever see it in my inbox? We could tell you - but then we would have to kill you. Automatic *deletion*, however ... use a filter. procmail. Btw, your message id was entered in the draw for "longest message id". Your are welcome! Sven -- Sheesh! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11089; Wed, 2 Oct 96 16:00:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id PAA06553 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:57:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from access.netaxs.com (access.netaxs.com [207.8.186.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA06548 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:57:52 -0700 Received: from unix3.netaxs.com (lazarus@unix3.netaxs.com [207.8.186.5]) by access.netaxs.com (8.7.6/8.6.11) with ESMTP id SAA22370; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:57:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from lazarus@localhost) by unix3.netaxs.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) id SAA10812; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:57:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:57:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Methuselah To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: viewer-hdrs setting in .pinerc In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks for the info. Sometimes I look too hard for what should be the most obvious. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:11:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18012; Wed, 2 Oct 96 16:11:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id QAA15356 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:08:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA15351 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:08:41 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 3 Oct 96 07:13:56 +0800 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:07:36 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko To: Methuselah Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: viewer-hdrs setting in .pinerc In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Methuselah wrote: > Thanks for the info. Sometimes I look too hard for what should be the > most obvious. As long as you've looked...that the most important thing. Most of us have not see the forest because of the trees from time to time. However, some never open their eyes to even look for the trees. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17373; Wed, 2 Oct 96 16:22:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id QAA07128 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:20:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA07123 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:20:19 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 3 Oct 96 07:25:32 +0800 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:19:13 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: "kathleen@telis.org" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: attachment troubles In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 27 Sep 1996, kathleen@telis.org wrote: > In a related way, can someone help me with saving files to your own PC? > When I log in to Telis, a menu comes up allowing me to choose Lynx or Pine > mail. After I get my mail, and then try to save an email message, it > asks for my file name and/or path - everything I have tried has failed; I > am assuming the files are being saved on my ISP, Telis. From your message header: Message-ID: upload-command-prefix = download-command = download-command-prefix = variables. These will be the key to your uploading and downloading the saved/exported messages to your PC. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14968; Wed, 2 Oct 96 16:38:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id QAA16057 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:36:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (apollo.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA16052 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:36:38 -0700 Received: from localhost (vallum@localhost) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA05765 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:36:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: apollo.sfsu.edu: vallum owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:36:36 -0700 (PDT) From: VALERIE LUM X-Sender: vallum@apollo To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: bugs Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hello- there is a problem with this e-mail. Whenever i type too fast on the keyboard the program jams and i have to log in all over again. I have experienced this problem at least twice while producing this letter. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:06:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18372; Wed, 2 Oct 96 17:06:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id RAA16772 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:03:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA16763 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:03:09 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 3 Oct 96 08:08:25 +0800 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:02:03 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko To: VALERIE LUM Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: bugs In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, VALERIE LUM wrote: > there is a problem with this e-mail. Whenever i type too fast on the > keyboard the program jams and i have to log in all over again. I have > experienced this problem at least twice while producing this letter. You are using pine for Solaris. My guess is that you are using it over a dial-up link. (I have to guess all of this since you are not very descriptive....if you want quality "service" you have have to give quality information. :-) ) Are you have problems in other situations? What other information can you supply? I suspect that the problem lies in your communications environment. Comm SW configuration, modem settings, etc. You should seek help from your local helpdesk staff on this sort of problem. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20952; Wed, 2 Oct 96 18:53:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id SAA10605 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:49:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA10599 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:49:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8crI-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 18:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan Richards Subject: Re: PICO Editor...? Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 14:00:47 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 1 Oct 1996, Lavender Rose, Dancin' with the Moon wrote: > Can you tell me where I can get the PICO Editor...? It comes with Pine. You can get it at ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz Just compile that, and Pico will be in there. Nathan --- Nathan Richards, aka. Sunspot on Efica MUD (http://195.92.35.130:3995/) Also known as Xoron on IRC (Undernet, DALnet, sometimes EFNet if you're lucky) Email: nathan@phish.nether.net or bm782@torfree.net WWW: http://www.naples.net/~nfn04143/Nathan/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21564; Wed, 2 Oct 96 19:01:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id SAA19587 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:59:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA19576 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:59:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8d1h-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 18:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: Decoding e-mail attachs. Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 18:08:48 GMT Message-Id: <52uav0$vj@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: I have the same problem. My solution is to: 1) save the message using (E)xport (I don't bother with view first) 2) download the file to my PC 3) use StuffIt Expander for Windows to decode the file (which for me is usually a Word for Macintosh document which I then open in Word for Windows) (Send e-mail to "info@aladdinsys.com" with "winexpander" as the subject and no message text and you'll get an automated blurb on StuffIt Expander. It's FREE.) -Ram -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ On Mon, 30 Sep 1996 13:59:36 GMT, sberman@netcom.com (Stanley Berman) wrote: >When I receive MS mail e-mail, attachements are noted in the test of the >e-mail not shown as attachments at the head of the mail. I cannot view >the attachemtns, but invoke VIEW and save to a file, then strip out the >extraneous text. ONce the is done I use the command uudecode and the >file name, but get only an unusable hex dump. >How can I convert these attachments to either a readable ascii file, or a >word-processor format that can then be downloaded to my computer? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:23:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21693; Wed, 2 Oct 96 19:23:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id TAA20017 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:21:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bessel.nando.net (bessel.nando.net [152.52.2.130]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA20012 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:21:16 -0700 Received: from bessel.nando.net (juliette@bessel.nando.net [152.52.2.130]) by bessel.nando.net (8.7.1/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA10942 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:20:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:20:22 -0400 (EDT) From: juliette To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: HELP!!! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do you upload something so you can attach it to mail... how do you attach a file to email? PLEASE HELP ME! :) Thank you very much.. (please respond asap?) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22349; Wed, 2 Oct 96 19:46:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id TAA11527 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:45:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA11522 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:45:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8dgr-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 19:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rob Teichman Subject: GUI Telnet to Pine Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 22:25:30 -0400 Message-Id: <3253241A.38D1@prolog.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In order to get around a firewall, I must telnet to my ISP and access pine so as to read my mail. The firewall does not let mail through. While, I could dial up the ISP, using our T1 is much quicker. Is there a Windows (Win95) program that can act as a graphical front end to pine? By this I mean, a program that telnets to a pine session and then fetches mail, and allows me to compose mail in the GUI environment? My ISP does not give me unix shell access. Thanks Rob From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22739; Wed, 2 Oct 96 20:52:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id UAA12749 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:49:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA12744 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:49:38 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 3 Oct 96 11:54:58 +0800 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:46:14 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: juliette Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HELP!!! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, juliette wrote: > How do you upload something so you can attach it to mail... how do you > attach a file to email? PLEASE HELP ME! :) > Thank you very much.. From your headers we have gleaned that you are using pine3.91. (In any cry for help you should provide *much* more information about your environment. *please*) I'd advise you to upgrade to pine3.95. With pine3.95 you will have additional capabilities. Looking in the setup/config we find: upload-command = upload-command-prefix = download-command = download-command-prefix = which will make your life easier. (IFF (meaning if-and-only-if) you readin help menus associated with these commands :-) ) As for attaching files???? What seems to be the trouble? If you put your cursor on the "Attchmnt" header and type ctrl-G (which means "Get Help") do you find the documentation insufficient to perform this task? Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24473; Wed, 2 Oct 96 22:00:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id VAA22495 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:55:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA22490 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:55:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8fmv-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 21:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Broadcasting emails Date: 1 Oct 1996 12:31:50 GMT Message-Id: <52r2vm$60h@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: <52ipts$f2o@cronkite.cisco.com> akr@cisco.com (Abhay Roy) writes: >Zhenghao Yeh (yeh@netcom.com) wrote: >: Hi! Expert, >: >: How can I send broadcasting emails? I have a list of my friends, I want >: to send the same email to all of them with one address on each mail >: header. What I mean is that there shouldn't be all the addresses in the >: header? Can pine do that? Thanks. >Not only pine, but all the mailers I know so far, CAN'T do this. What mailers do you know of? Every other UNIX mailer I know of and have used (mail, mailx, Mail, elm) can do this by using it from the command line or a shell script with redirected input. Since pine does not accept redirected input (its main shortcoming IMHO), it cannot. Here is an example of a shell script that would also work from a ksh, sh, or bash commandline: #!/bin/sh for f in `ls -1 /export/home` ; do mailx $f < file-to-mail done This would mail the contents of file-to-mail to every user who has a homedir in /export/home, one at a time. >The best you can do is something like this. >Send the message to YOURSELF, and put the distribution list as bcc. When it >reaches all, they will see that mail was sent from you to you !! They won't >know, who else got a copy. >Later, >-Roy- >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Abhay Kumar Roy, Software Engineer > Cisco Systems Inc. > "Better to understand a little, than to misunderstand a lot." >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29039; Wed, 2 Oct 96 22:11:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id WAA13836 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:05:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA13831 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:05:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8fuM-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 22:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Darius Subject: .forward filter? Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:02:11 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have been trying for ages to create a filter for my forward file. or figure out another way to accomplish this task... I am going through an ISP who is offering me a virtual hosting system. In turn, anything@alliedproductions.com is funneled to one account. I have been trying to make a filter to be able to make it so that if it says a specific user@alliedproductions.com then it will be forwarded to their email address... an example of what I have tried: if for: jan@alliedproductions.com then to: jan@anotherdomain.com if for: dave@alliedproductions.com then to: dave@anotherdomain.com none of which have worked... If you know the format for which this should look, or have any information regarding this subject please send mail to: darius@alliedproductions.com or, post to this newsgroup... thanks for your time....Michael Darius From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:29:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23735; Wed, 2 Oct 96 22:29:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id WAA14126 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:25:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from homeroom.telis.org (homeroom.telis.org [204.71.75.151]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA14121 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:25:16 -0700 Received: from s01-pm02-downy-t.telis.org (s01-pm02-downy-t.telis.org [206.96.64.60]) by homeroom.telis.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA17183; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <32534D7E.4D28@telis.org> Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 22:22:06 -0700 From: Kathleen X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Consumers Advantage Subject: Re: attachment troubles References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed Greshko wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Sep 1996, kathleen@telis.org wrote: > > > In a related way, can someone help me with saving files to your own PC? > > When I log in to Telis, a menu comes up allowing me to choose Lynx or Pine > > mail. After I get my mail, and then try to save an email message, it > > asks for my file name and/or path - everything I have tried has failed; I > > am assuming the files are being saved on my ISP, Telis. > > From your message header: > > Message-ID: > That your are running pine3.91 under Solaris. (A U*IX OS). > In that case, you are correct. The "save" command will cause the message > to be saved on the ISP's machine (a SUN). > > Please go to setup/config and learn about the: > > upload-command = > upload-command-prefix = > download-command = > download-command-prefix = > > variables. These will be the key to your uploading and > downloading the saved/exported messages to your PC. > > Regards, > > Ed > > ----- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.CEd, Thanks for the reply! I have already done what you suggested, but I did not have any success, probably because I don't know what to put in as the download command values; I tried local, and home and my local path, either c:\ or the current directory I am using (which is the comm program) I get a message saying I cannot use a colon, or it just doesn't work. I thought it was a UNIX command I needed, but I looked through UNIX for dummies and couldn't find the answer. I guess the question is too basic even for that book :) I am setting up email and the Lynx browser for a friend of mine who is blind. He needs to keep a DOS interface for his braille reader, and wants to download his messages so he can put them into his WordPerfect. I have tried downloading PINE and switching to it after I use the comm program to dial up and connect, but that didn't work either. I really appreciate any help you can give me about this (I also tried the PINE mail newsgroup). Kathleen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10878; Wed, 2 Oct 96 22:42:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id WAA23255 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:40:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA23250 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:40:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8gUv-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 22:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ishslib@mozcom.com (Ms. Garces) Subject: help Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 20:53:29 GMT Message-Id: <52nnao$1f8@mozcom3.mozcom.com> i have a little problem infront of me... im currently handling 5 networked units... and all connected to the internet and is running under linux.... the problem is that... when i use pine through telnet in my two units a certain error message appear..... "your terminal, of ansi is lacking functions needed to run pine.... but with the other 3 its ok.... what will i do... i really need to solve this out asap.... coz my boss will be arriving soon.... thank you From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 00:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11120; Thu, 3 Oct 96 00:37:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id AAA15893 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 00:35:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA15888 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 00:35:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8iFr-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 00:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: alan@bali.seg.wj.com (Alan Strassberg) Subject: Re: Looking for best IMAP client Date: 2 Oct 1996 21:04:20 -0700 Message-Id: <52ve04$e0j@bali.seg.wj.com> References: A free IMAP4 client is available from Sun: http://www.sun.com/solstice/Networking-products/sims/index.html Runs on: Solaris (and Solaris x86) Windows 3.1 / Win95 / Win NT alan -- alan@wj.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 01:04:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24337; Thu, 3 Oct 96 01:04:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id AAA25149 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 00:59:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA25144 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 00:59:25 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:54:34 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id IAA05479; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:59:16 +0100 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:59:16 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Dara Ghahremani Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine for Mac? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" As far as I recall... Originally there were no plans to do so. However people kept asking and the last I saw (quite a time back) was that it _may_ happen one day but the stumbling blocks were staff time and finance. I haven't heard anything different; I don't think there's any active development going on in this area. That said, there's a very good IMAP mail client called "Mail Drop" for the Apple Macintosh. It's available free from: ftp://ackmo.baylor.edu/pub/bell/Mail_Drop/ Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sat, 28 Sep 1996, Dara Ghahremani wrote: > > > Are there any plans to make Pine for Macintosh? > > I'm sure this is a common question, though, I haven't seen any info about > this anywhere. > > Thanks, Dara From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 01:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23481; Thu, 3 Oct 96 01:05:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id BAA25194 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 01:03:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA25188 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 01:03:48 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:58:54 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA06917; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:03:32 +0100 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:03:32 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: "R. Stewart Ellis" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Broadcasting emails In-Reply-To: <52r2vm$60h@news.eecs.umich.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" The current (3.95) version of Pine *does* accept redirected input. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 1 Oct 1996, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > What mailers do you know of? Every other UNIX mailer I know of and have > used (mail, mailx, Mail, elm) can do this by using it from the command line > or a shell script with redirected input. Since pine does not accept > redirected input (its main shortcoming IMHO), it cannot. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 01:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14194; Thu, 3 Oct 96 01:20:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id BAA25388 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 01:18:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA25383 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 01:18:47 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:13:47 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA11631; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:18:30 +0100 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:18:29 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Yohaan John Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: CC in PINE In-Reply-To: <32529FF7.5D2A@maroon.tc.umn.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" I presume you're being asked whether or not you want a copy when you are Replying to a message rather than when you start a new one? If so, Pine is asking you this because it doesn't recognise your e-mail address in amongst the addresses listed in the To: and Cc: fields. For example, my e-mail address is "pmb1@york.ac.uk". However a number of other addresses also get to me. Pine, however, only knows about the first one. So if one of my alternate addresses is used it doesn't recognise it as being for me (thinking it is someone else instead it offers me the choice of replying to it). To cure the problem you have to teach Pine what other addresses mail for you might arrice as. You do this in the Setup Configuration screen by listing the alternative addresses as the value for the "alt-addresses" variable. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Yohaan John wrote: > In using PINE, how do I configure it such that when I respond to an > emailing, it does not ask me whether I want to be a sent a copy or > not? > > All the mail I send is being collected under "sent-mail", and so I > don't want it to always ask me whether I wish to receive a copy of my > response or not. I have tried playing around with reconfiguring it . > . . but to no avail. > > Thanks a lot. Looking forward to your response. > > Yohaan John. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 02:18:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20096; Thu, 3 Oct 96 02:18:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id CAA26034 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 02:15:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA26029 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 02:15:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8jr8-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 02:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Tse" Subject: Re: How do I save to a file? Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <52rj83$rao@fnord.dfw.net> Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:51:45 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <52rj83$rao@fnord.dfw.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 On 1 Oct 1996, Consumers Advantage wrote: > I access my ISP through a Shell account and VT100 emulation. I then enter > PINE and am in v3.94. > > When someone has sent me an attached file in Word or WodPerfect format and > I want to save it to my hard drive to read, what do I do? The save command > appears to save it in a directory on my ISP's system. In fact, I have many > saved files out there and need to know how to get to them with my word > processor. If your Shell account is on UNIX, try entering "sz filename" at the UNIX prompt --- this command should start the transfer of the file from the Shell account to your computer. Hope this helps. J. Tse From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 02:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22069; Thu, 3 Oct 96 02:37:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id CAA26308 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 02:35:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA26297 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 02:35:03 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 3 Oct 96 17:40:21 +0800 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:31:38 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Kathleen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Consumers Advantage Subject: Re: attachment troubles In-Reply-To: <32534D7E.4D28@telis.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Kathleen wrote: > I have already done what you suggested, but I did not have any success, > probably because I don't know what to put in as the download command > values; I tried local, and home and my local path, either c:\ or the > current directory I am using (which is the comm program) I get a message > saying I cannot use a colon, or it just doesn't work. I thought it was a > UNIX command I needed, but I looked through UNIX for dummies and couldn't > find the answer. I guess the question is too basic even for that book :) Well, your situation is best handled by your local helpdesk. I say this since we are not aware of your environment. We don't know what comm SW you are using and we don't know what protocol you are using. (xmodem, zmodem, kermit, etc) Sorry to leave you hanging in the wind....but if you describe you enivrionment fully there are plenty of folks on this group with experience in this area. (Much more so than me...) Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 04:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27826; Thu, 3 Oct 96 04:08:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id EAA27503 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 04:06:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA27497 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 04:06:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8lWI-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 04:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tcj6054@tam2000.tamu.edu (Theodore Calest III Johnson) Subject: Distribution Lists Date: 28 Sep 1996 06:42:41 GMT Message-Id: <52ihd1$fpv@news.tamu.edu> Howdy, Could anyone tell me how to do a distribution list in Pine? Thanx. Theo From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09131; Thu, 3 Oct 96 05:37:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id FAA19493 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:28:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA19488 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:28:45 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 3 Oct 96 20:33:59 +0800 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:27:39 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko To: Theodore Calest III Johnson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Distribution Lists In-Reply-To: <52ihd1$fpv@news.tamu.edu> Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 28 Sep 1996, Theodore Calest III Johnson wrote: > Could anyone tell me how to do a distribution list in Pine? Thanx. Yes, pine can tell you. You need to do "Information Reasearch". From the m(ain) menu go to the a(ddressbook). Whey you get there type ?(help). (Humm....wonder what that does????) Do a bit of reading paying special attention to the section labeled "Distribution Lists". Sound familiar? Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28761; Thu, 3 Oct 96 05:57:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id FAA28805 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:54:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gmi.edu (nova.gmi.edu [192.138.137.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA28800 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:54:35 -0700 Received: by gmi.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA11538; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:54:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:54:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "R. Stewart Ellis" X-Sender: ellis@nova To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Broadcasting emails In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: GMI Engineering&Management Institute - Flint MI Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:03:32 +0100 (BST) > From: Mike Brudenell > To: "R. Stewart Ellis" > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Broadcasting emails > > The current (3.95) version of Pine *does* accept redirected input. I really do want to upgrade my site to the latest, and this makes me want to even more, but I get zero complaints/questions about 3.91, and I know I am going to have questions when I do, and I do not have time to deal with them right now. Various things such as having to add patches that have not been folded back into the base release to work around streams problems also make me nervous. > > Cheers, > > -- > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > On 1 Oct 1996, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > > > What mailers do you know of? Every other UNIX mailer I know of and have > > used (mail, mailx, Mail, elm) can do this by using it from the command line > > or a shell script with redirected input. Since pine does not accept > > redirected input (its main shortcoming IMHO), it cannot. > > > R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29610; Thu, 3 Oct 96 07:10:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id HAA29726 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:06:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA29721 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:06:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8oK4-00038TC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 07:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Steven King" Subject: Re: HOW DO I GET OLD NEWSGROUP POSTS! Date: 3 Oct 1996 13:08:35 GMT Message-Id: <530dsj$sms@pshrink.chi.il.us> References: <52ul7h$gm8@agassiz.cas.und.nodak.edu> Evan P. Herberg wrote: >The editor may be >unfamiliar to you, as it won't be pico (the editor on trn for me is JOVE), >but shouldn't be too difficult to learn. trn respects the EDITOR environment variable, so you can set your editor to be anything you want. Mine is set to "pico", for whatever reason... :-) -- ------------------------------------------ "This paperclip will serve as an antenna, grabbing neutrinos from the cosmos and providing ignition for this craft." "Astonishing, Brain! Um, will it also roast marshmallows?" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30188; Thu, 3 Oct 96 07:14:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id HAA20855 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:11:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA20849 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:11:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8oQr-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 07:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dmonniau@ens-lyon.fr (David Monniaux) Subject: ISO-8859-1 Date: 3 Oct 1996 14:01:02 GMT Message-Id: <530guu$3a7@cri.ens-lyon.fr> Hello, I am on a Unix (Sun/Solaris) system, running X and CDE, if that matters. I like Pine, but it has some problem : it seems to believe I've got an US_ASCII display : it sometimes complains about displaying ISO-8859-1 text on such a display. More over, it refuses accentuated characters typed on the keyboard. This looks abnormal : my others applications, even the shells, accept accentuated characters under ISO-8859-1. There's probably some misconfiguration somewhere, but I can't find where !? -- David Monniaux, informatique, Ecole Normale Superieure de Lyon (computer science student) e-mail: dmonniau@ens-lyon.fr http://www.ens-lyon.fr/~dmonniau From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30105; Thu, 3 Oct 96 07:59:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id HAA00723 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:56:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA00717 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:56:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8pA0-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 07:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Pawel Misiak Subject: how can I read mail of another userid with pine? Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 15:50:07 +0200 Message-Id: <3253C48F.41C6@info.wcss.wroc.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have just installed pine 3.95 under AIX 4.1.4. Works fine. In some text I have read on the possibility of using Pine to read mail on another accounts than that I have started the program. How can I get the mailbox on onother accounts? -- Pawel Misiak From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30707; Thu, 3 Oct 96 07:59:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id HAA21662 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:56:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA21657 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:56:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8pAl-00038TC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 07:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: error posting message? Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:03:00 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Robert Frayer wrote: > When I try to send a reply to a message and include the original message > in the reply I am given "error posting message:441 article not posted > more included text than new". I'm not sure exactly what this means and > what to do about it. It means that the mail or news processing software at your site is enforcing a restriction which not all sites enforce. (Mine, for example, does not.) That's why not everybody sees this error message. What you did, in all probability, is respond to an email or newsgroup message. When you replied, Pine "quoted" each line of the original message with a less-than (>) sign to designate the original material. (There are ways of changing this quoting symbol, incidentally.) Then you added your reply. However, the amount of your reply was less than the amount of the original text. Some mail agents (or newsgroup posting agents, especially) do not permit this and refuse your new message with the error indication you received above. You must redo things so that the amount of new material you add is greater than the amount of quoted original material you are responding to. (I am unsure whether the criterion is line count or total character count.) Even though it seems a little unfair, because some people are subject to this restriction and some are not (depends on site policy), it was instituted for a purpose. How many times have we seen followup postings on newsgroups which quote a 100-line original post in its entirety only to add a 3-line reply at the very bottom? It can be very aggravating. This restriction which you have run into forbids that kind of nonsense. It is not a restriction of Pine but of the software which processes the mail or news once Pine has released it. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14866; Thu, 3 Oct 96 08:08:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id IAA00894 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:06:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA00889 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:06:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8pKm-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 08:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mwe@unixfe.rl.ac.uk (Mike Ellwood) Subject: (3.95 on AIX) iso-8559 8-bit national characters in compose Date: 3 Oct 1996 12:58:50 GMT Message-Id: <530daa$f94@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk> I find that I can happily enter national characters from pico 2.1 or 2.9 using e.g. ALT-223 = ß However, when using compose from pine 3.95 it won't let me. (I get "unknown command"). I've looked through the setup options, and the only thing I noticed vaguely relevant (enable 8-bit esmpt transaction) didn't help. I thought pine used pico as its composer editor, so I find the difference strange. Does pine call the external version of pico, or is the equivalent pico code built into the pine module? (I'm sure its the latter, so having an older version of pico as default while using pine 3.95 should not be the problem, or could it be?) Mike.Ellwood@rl.ac.uk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:11:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31762; Thu, 3 Oct 96 08:11:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id IAA21963 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:09:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from eli.wariat.org (eli.wariat.org [204.248.49.62]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA21946 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:08:55 -0700 Received: from localhost (rcp@localhost) by eli.wariat.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA00815 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 10:09:16 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 10:09:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Ronnie C Phillips To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug in address book Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When I tried to add a new address, I received a message, "Address Book Read-only." Also, when I tried to "take" an address, I received message, "No writable address book." I had not experienced these problems until the latest Pine update. Can someone help? Ron Phillips From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32271; Thu, 3 Oct 96 08:49:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id IAA22921 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:41:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA22912 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:41:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8psX-00038TC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 08:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Tse" Subject: Re: default editor Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 01:47:20 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, Clary Harridge wrote: > Can someone please suggest how I can set the default editor to jove? > > I have tried combinations of > > # enable-alternate-editor-cmd > enable-alternate-editor-implicitly > editor=/usr/local/bin/jove > > in my .pinerc without success. > > I can get into jove using ^_ but how do I get it to come up automatically? Setting *both* of the above options works for me ... --- J. Tse From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 10:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24886; Thu, 3 Oct 96 10:09:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id KAA04554 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 10:05:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mhub1.tc.umn.edu (mhub1.tc.umn.edu [128.101.131.51]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA04549 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 10:05:43 -0700 Received: from maroon.tc.umn.edu by mhub1.tc.umn.edu; Thu, 3 Oct 96 12:03:46 -0500 Received: by maroon.tc.umn.edu; Thu, 3 Oct 96 12:03:46 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:03:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Yohaan John To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: CC in PINE In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thank you so much Mike for addressing my problem. I think you hit the nail on the head. The only problem is that my PINE is 3.91 and I do not think that there is a choice of "alt-addresses" in SETUP-CONFIG. At least I didn't find any. My SETUP-CONFIG screen is this. Do you know what I am supposed to do with PINE 3.91? personal-name = user-domain = smtp-server = nntp-server = inbox-path = folder-collections = news-collections = default-fcc = sent-mail postponed-folder = read-message-folder = signature-file = .sig global-address-book = address-book = feature-list = Set Feature Name --- ---------------------- [ ] assume-slow-link [X] auto-move-read-msgs [X] auto-open-next-unread [ ] compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs [ ] compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm [X] delete-skips-deleted [ ] enable-aggregate-command-set [ ] enable-alternate-editor-cmd [ ] enable-alternate-editor-implicitly [X] enable-bounce-cmd [X] enable-flag-cmd [ ] enable-full-header-cmd [ ] enable-incoming-folders [X] enable-jump-shortcut [X] enable-mail-check-cue [X] enable-suspend [X] enable-tab-completion [X] enable-unix-pipe-cmd [ ] expanded-view-of-addressbooks [ ] expanded-view-of-folders [ ] expunge-without-confirm [ ] include-attachments-in-reply [ ] include-header-in-reply [ ] include-text-in-reply [ ] news-approximates-new-status [ ] news-post-without-validation [ ] news-read-in-newsrc-order [X] preserve-start-stop-characters [ ] quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file [X] quit-without-confirm [ ] save-will-quote-leading-froms [ ] save-will-not-delete [X] save-will-advance [ ] select-without-confirm [X] show-selected-in-boldface [X] signature-at-bottom [ ] use-current-dir initial-keystroke-list = default-composer-hdrs = customized-hdrs = saved-msg-name-rule = Set Rule Values --- ---------------------- ( ) by-sender ( ) by-from ( ) by-recipient ( ) last-folder-used (*) default-folder fcc-name-rule = Set Rule Values --- ---------------------- ( ) by-recipient ( ) last-fcc-used (*) default-fcc sort-key = Set Sort Options --- ---------------------- ( ) Date (*) Arrival ( ) From ( ) Subject ( ) OrderedSubj ( ) Reverse Date ( ) Reverse Arrival ( ) Reverse From ( ) Reverse Subject ( ) Reverse OrderedSubj addrbook-sort-rule = Set Rule Values --- ---------------------- ( ) fullname-with-lists-last ( ) fullname ( ) nickname-with-lists-last (*) nickname ( ) dont-sort character-set = editor = image-viewer = use-only-domain-name = No On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > I presume you're being asked whether or not you want a copy when you are > Replying to a message rather than when you start a new one? > > If so, Pine is asking you this because it doesn't recognise your e-mail > address in amongst the addresses listed in the To: and Cc: fields. > > For example, my e-mail address is "pmb1@york.ac.uk". However a number of > other addresses also get to me. Pine, however, only knows about the first > one. So if one of my alternate addresses is used it doesn't recognise it > as being for me (thinking it is someone else instead it offers me the > choice of replying to it). > > To cure the problem you have to teach Pine what other addresses mail for > you might arrice as. You do this in the Setup Configuration screen by > listing the alternative addresses as the value for the "alt-addresses" > variable. > > Cheers, > > -- > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Yohaan John wrote: > > > In using PINE, how do I configure it such that when I respond to an > > emailing, it does not ask me whether I want to be a sent a copy or > > not? > > > > All the mail I send is being collected under "sent-mail", and so I > > don't want it to always ask me whether I wish to receive a copy of my > > response or not. I have tried playing around with reconfiguring it . > > . . but to no avail. > > > > Thanks a lot. Looking forward to your response. > > > > Yohaan John. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03603; Thu, 3 Oct 96 12:30:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id MAA29794 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:26:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA29789 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:26:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8tM9-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 12:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maddox Subject: proper use of fcc Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 07:54:19 -0500 Message-Id: <325265FB.5146@mayo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am new to PINE and I was hoping someone could tell me exactly how I could accomplish the following: I have an email address here and a different one on another campus. I read mail both places. I would like to configure PINE at my other address to automatically forward a copy of outgoing messages from there to my address here. That PINE is running on a VMS system, and the version number is 3.91 I believe. What exactly do I type between the quotation marks to accomplish this (presently no fcc is being used, and the null string "" is all that is there when I looked at the configuration program). Thanks very much for the help. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07216; Thu, 3 Oct 96 13:26:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA10359 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:23:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sweden.it.earthlink.net (sweden-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.50]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA10354 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:23:16 -0700 Received: from jmellon.earthlink.net (Cust69.Max7.Miami.FL.MS.UU.NET [153.34.122.69]) by sweden.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA25348 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:23:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <32542052.7894@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 16:21:38 -0400 From: John Mellon X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: UNIX to PC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there any simple way to transfer all of the files from an INTEL based UNIX operating system to a DOS/Windows operating system? I know nothing about UNIX but I need to access the files on a UNIX machine. Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. John Mellon From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27761; Thu, 3 Oct 96 13:29:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA10491 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:27:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA10485 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:27:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8uH0-00038TC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 13:21 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Rohn Wood" Subject: Emulation Problems Pine 3.93, 3.95 Date: 3 Oct 1996 16:52:16 GMT Message-Id: <01bbb14b$bc84bd60$1b0e8396@ufo.umt.edu> We are having a considerable number of problems with Pine 3.93 and 3.95 on DEC Unix 4.0 for users coming in on LAT lines. SInce we upgraded to Pine 3.95, dial-up users (who come across LAT) and strainght LAT users have reported that immediately after the main PNE menu appears on the screen, their systems lock up and they have to basically crash out to regain control of their PCs. This of course leaves hung sessions on our UNIX box. Is this PINE 3.93/3.94 problme wide-spread? Any ideas on the cause? A fix? Thanks.... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08598; Thu, 3 Oct 96 14:02:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA11439 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:59:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from becker2.u.washington.edu (becker2.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.68]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA11434 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:59:16 -0700 Received: from localhost (umar1@localhost) by becker2.u.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA31611 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:59:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Umar Cheema To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: how to install pico? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How I can install pico on a server which previously had vi editor ? Also can I install emacs too ? Thanks, Umar From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09287; Thu, 3 Oct 96 14:50:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id OAA04411 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:47:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA04406 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:47:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8vWk-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 14:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mwe@unixfe.rl.ac.uk (Mike Ellwood) Subject: Re: (3.95 on AIX) iso-8559 8-bit national characters in compose Date: 3 Oct 1996 19:09:16 GMT Message-Id: <53130s$jlu@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk> References: <530daa$f94@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk> Mike Ellwood (mwe@unixfe.cc.rl.ac.uk) wrote: : I find that I can happily enter national : characters from pico 2.1 or 2.9 using : e.g. ALT-223 = ß : However, when using compose from pine 3.95 : it won't let me. (I get "unknown command"). : I've looked through the setup options, and : the only thing I noticed vaguely relevant : (enable 8-bit esmpt transaction) didn't help. : I thought pine used pico as its composer editor, : so I find the difference strange. Does pine : call the external version of pico, or is the : equivalent pico code built into the pine module? : (I'm sure its the latter, so having an older version : of pico as default while using pine 3.95 should not : be the problem, or could it be?) : Mike.Ellwood@rl.ac.uk (oops, sorry, that should have been iso-8859). I found the answer, indirectly, from an earlier posting when I was trawling through this newsgroup. Sorry I don't have the name of the person who gave it. Thanks to him/her anonymously: Go into "Setup", Choose "Config" Look for "Character-set" Add new value: iso-8859-1 and voilà! I believe this also answers David Monniau's question, which was more or less the same. Merci à tous! Mike.Ellwood@rl.ac.uk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08699; Thu, 3 Oct 96 15:05:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id PAA13221 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:02:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA13216 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:02:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8von-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 15:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: HOW DO I GET OLD NEWSGROUP POSTS! Date: 3 Oct 1996 14:25:43 GMT Message-Id: <530id7$odq@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: <52ul7h$gm8@agassiz.cas.und.nodak.edu> herberg@aero.und.nodak.edu (Evan P. Herberg) writes: >In article , >Hopeless Romantic (Karent Urena) wrote: >> >>HELP! >> Can someone please tell me how I can get old messages from a >>newsgroup? I have eXpunged many of them but there seems to be follow-ups >>to messages I haven't seen. HELP! >> >>Thanks in advance! >> >>Karent > If you want the best way to follow threads on newsgroups and be able >to read old posts - in the order they are meant to be read in -- then use >TRN for news-reading. If you are using UNIX, and I assume from an 'edu' >environment that you are, then you should have access to trn. It's >article organization with a "tree" diagram to show you exactly the order >that follow-ups and replies were posted as well as having access to old >articles in the thread simply by moving up the "tree" make it a more >efficient and valuable newsgroup browser than Pine. The editor may be This does not answer the question: old articles are available at http://www.dejanews.com/ >unfamiliar to you, as it won't be pico (the editor on trn for me is JOVE), >but shouldn't be too difficult to learn. Believe me, although Pine's E-Mail At many edu sites the default editor is vi (YUCHH!). Most reasonable software however checks the EDITOR environment variable. Set that variable to the editor of your choice and most real newsreaders will honor it. >capabilities are arguably better than elm, mail, or other UNIX mailers, for >newsgroups it comes up way short in comparison to the other UNIX news >readers -- as you'll see upon starting trn. No argument there! But at many sites the person who maintains newsreaders does not care about true threading (e.g. me), and does not have time to maintain all the possible newsreaders. At my site I only support nn (no threads, but my newsreader of choice) and tin (threads, but a lot of user interface deficiencies IMHO). >---------------------------- >Evan P. Herberg | >E-Mail: herberg@cs.und.edu | >---------------------------- >-- >---------------------------- >Evan P. Herberg | >E-Mail: herberg@cs.und.edu | >---------------------------- -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10789; Thu, 3 Oct 96 16:00:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id PAA06469 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:57:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA06464 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:57:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8wcj-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 15:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: patmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick M. McMillin) Subject: How to get INBOX on starting ??? Date: 2 Oct 1996 15:44:47 GMT Message-Id: <52u2lf$16i@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> How do I configure my pine to go directly to inbox upon starting the porgram ? |) / /| Patrick M. McMillin / |__ The University of Texas at Austin ( (|_ ) patrick-mc@mail.utexas.edu \_|_/ J From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11648; Thu, 3 Oct 96 17:00:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id QAA16174 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:52:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA16165 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:52:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8xUx-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 16:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Randall S. Winchester" Subject: Re: Pine hangs (was Re: Version 3.95 Buggy?) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:41:05 -0400 Message-Id: References: <51jiob$1jm@news.eecs.umich.edu> <51re9h$gnb@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> <526dg0$hfs@news.eecs.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <526dg0$hfs@news.eecs.umich.edu> On 23 Sep 1996, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: : Mark Crispin writes: : : >On 19 Sep 1996, Tony Fitzgerald wrote: : >> The problem that we are observing appears to happen to only one specific : >> account but has happened at least twice in the past month. The account : >> appears to get a pine session into a hung state (presumably some sort of : >> kernel block because a kill -9 will not get rid of the process.) This : >> occurs with PINE3.95 running under Solaris 2.5. Once this account gets : >> into the hung state, subsequent login attempts also hang (/bin/mail -E : >> is run during login to check for new mail and that process also hangs : >> and can not be killed.) At this time, the account has two immortal pine : >> processes and about a dozen /bin/mail processes and it seems only a : >> system re-boot will solve the problem.) : : : >By any chance, are any of these mail files accessed via NFS? If so, you : >may be bit by a well-known bug with the fcntl() locking call; when locking : >over NFS, it invokes a pair of daemons called statd and lockd that are : >very fragile. : : >Supposedly, the code in 3.95 disables fcntl() locking if NFS is involved, : >but Solaris 2.5 may have cleverly broken the test that it used for NFS. Wow it would be nice if this was better documented. /* ftinode should be -1 if NFS */ return ((!fstat (fd,&sbuf) && !ustat (sbuf.st_dev,&usbuf) && !++usbuf.f_tinode) || ((int) mail_parameters (NIL,GET_DISABLEFCNTLLOCK,NIL))) ? NIL : fcntl (fd,(operation & LOCK_NB) ? F_SETLK : F_SETLKW,&fl); From "man ustat": BUGS The NFS revision 2 protocol does not permit the number of free files to be provided to the client; thus, when ustat() is done on an NFS file system, f_tinode is always -1. Since Solaris2.5 uses NFS V3 when it can, this test is nolonger valid. However it concerns me that this locking is being ignored. Most vendors have patches avaliable to fix some of the lockd/statd problems. The vendor mailers (i.e. mailx) do not ignore these locks. Blind trust... Randall : : I am not a network expert, but in the past you have failed to take account : of some of the special features of the Solaris environment (old header : include kluges ~pine 3.91). With Solaris 2.5, Sun has wisely or unwisely : gone back to including support for some older BSD interfaces (I think they : should have left them out). Could any of those be fooling the tests you are : making for fcntl()? : : It might be helpful if the original poster has access to a Solaris 2.4 : machine to config and compile pine on that and see if the binary gives the : same problems as his Sol 2.5 binary. : : >-- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" : : >DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" : >Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. : : : -- : R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ : Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ : Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / : Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / : : From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13340; Thu, 3 Oct 96 17:07:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id RAA16396 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:01:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA16391 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:01:16 -0700 From: msw@mailya.yakima.com Received: from uucp4.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp4.UU.NET [192.48.96.35]) id QQbjwy07051; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:01:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailya.UUCP by uucp4.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:01:14 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by mailya.yakima.com id AA844386353 Thu, 03 Oct 96 16:45:53 Date: Thu, 03 Oct 96 16:45:53 Message-Id: <9609038443.AA844386353@mailya.yakima.com> To: "Pine email discussion group" Subject: Compiling Pine for AIX 4.1 I'm having problems getting a successful compilation of Pine on an IBM RS/6000 under AIX v4.1. Some of the compile statements give the following kind of output: cc -g -Dunix=1 -D_BSD -DNFSKLUDGE -c smtp.c "smtp.c", line 170.9: 1506-068 (W) Operation between types "long(*)(unsigned ch. "smtp.c", line 298.27: 1506-068 (W) Operation between types "void(*)(unsigned c. cc -g -Dunix=1 -D_BSD -DNFSKLUDGE -c nntp.c cc -c -D_ALL_SOURCE -Da41 -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE osdep.c "osdep.c", line 2082.22: 1506-280 (W) Function argument assignment between type. cc -c -D_ALL_SOURCE -Da41 -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE pico.c cc -Dconst= -DA41 -DSYSTYPE=\"A41\" -DMOUSE -c help.c "os.h", line 61.25: 1506-342 (W) "/*" detected in comment. "os.h", line 71.34: 1506-342 (W) "/*" detected in comment. "os.h", line 220.27: 1506-342 (W) "/*" detected in comment. ... and so on. What's going on here? If I un-tar the Pine 3.95 file and compile it on an AIX 3.2.5 machine we've got, it installs just fine. Am I missing something simple? Is it the environment or the "C" compiler that's having problems? Any clues would be most appreciated. - Michael ------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Wright, Systems Analyst email: msw@yakima.com Yakima Products, Inc. Ph: 707-826-8175 P.O. Box 4899, Arcata, CA 95521 (USA) Fx: 707-826-8149 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13635; Thu, 3 Oct 96 17:32:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id RAA08881 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:28:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from barney.gonzaga.edu (barney.gonzaga.edu [147.222.2.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA08874 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:28:11 -0700 Received: by barney.gonzaga.edu (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA092078377; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:19:37 -0700 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:19:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Perry To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Forwarding mail? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am a grad student at Gonzaga University in Spokane WA. and have two email accounts. One is on the university server and the other is with a commercial internet provider. The commercial one is GUI where the university one is pine. How can I forward my mail from the university mail account to the commercial server? thanks, D. perry From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 21:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15548; Thu, 3 Oct 96 21:01:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id UAA12540 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:57:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA12535 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:57:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v91Md-00038TC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 20:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine hangs (was Re: Version 3.95 Buggy?) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:54:27 -0700 Message-Id: References: <51jiob$1jm@news.eecs.umich.edu> <51re9h$gnb@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> <526dg0$hfs@news.eecs.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Randall S. Winchester wrote: > Wow it would be nice if this was better documented. I would have appreciated that too. > From "man ustat": > > BUGS > The NFS revision 2 protocol does not permit the number of > free files to be provided to the client; thus, when ustat() > is done on an NFS file system, f_tinode is always -1. Amazing. It actually appears in someone's man page. I had to determine it by experimentation and reading kernel source code. > Since Solaris2.5 uses NFS V3 when it can, this test is nolonger valid. I heard that from SUN. How SUN justifies returning "number of inodes" over a protocol that is supposed to be OS-independent is beyond me. However, SUN also claims that all the NFS locking bugs are fixed in Solaris 2.5, so it doesn't matter that my test doesn't work (put another way, the test does exactly the right thing, working only on systems where NFS is broken). That's SUN's claim, anyway. I don't really believe it. The entire design of lockd/statd is bogus, and I doubt that it can ever be made to work. > However it concerns me that this locking is being ignored. Most vendors have > patches avaliable to fix some of the lockd/statd problems. The vendor > mailers (i.e. mailx) do not ignore these locks. Blind trust... The lock in question is not one that mailx would use. This lock is the private lock in the c-client library (called by Pine and imapd) that guards against multiple Pines/imapds/etc. getting read/write access to the same file at any one time. As long as you use UNIX mbox format, it doesn't matter that much if it fails. The worst that will happen is that if you run more than one Pine on the same mailbox, one of the Pines will eventually cause the other to get an ACCESS ERROR. If you use certain other formats (e.g. tenex format), it is a problem, since these formats use random access and depend upon locking to work. But we've always said, "don't use tenex format over NFS". -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 22:31:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16446; Thu, 3 Oct 96 22:31:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id WAA21949 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 22:28:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA21944 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 22:28:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v92jo-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 22:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tramm@jove.acs.unt.edu (Thomas Fritz Ramm) Subject: IMAP server doesn't respond Date: 3 Oct 1996 19:34:29 GMT Message-Id: <5314g5$jrl@hermes.acs.unt.edu> I have been using PC-Pine at home for over a year without problems. I dial up to my school account and everything works fine. At my work, we finally got a T1 line and I tried to access my mail box using PC-Pine 3.95 for Win95 (the same version as at home) but I never get a response from the IMAP server. I can ping it just fine. I can also use Netscape, FTP and telnet just fine. I know I can use telnet to acces my account but I like PC-Pine better and would like to use it. Please help. -- Thomas --------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas F Ramm --> tramm@jove.acs.unt.edu --> tramm@stephens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10785; Thu, 3 Oct 96 23:27:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id XAA14587 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:23:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA14582 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:23:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v93aC-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 23:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chang s l Subject: V3.95 not always repaint Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 08:00:52 -0400 Message-Id: <32525974.6678@suisun.ctd.ornl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd like to report a bug/problem. A user of pine3.95 reported that the screen didn't repaint when he tried to compose a new message after being in the INBOX index screen and answering "no" to "Continue postponed composition". The user ended up with the "index" still on the screen and the mail headers were missing. Below are sequences that the user typed. The user has a postponed new message and several messages in INBOX, all were read. pine i <- put in INBOX at last message p <- back's up one c <- prompts for create n <- answer no to using postponed Screen will be messed up. The user is running DECterm on a DEC3000 running OSF/1 Version 2.1. He telneted to an AIX 4.1.4 to use pine3.95. ================================================ Shui Chang Phone: (423) 574-8418 LMER, MS6394 Fax: (423) 574-8922 Bldg 6026-D, Rm 8 Oak Ridge, TN 37831-6394 E-mail: sui@ornl.gov From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13300; Fri, 4 Oct 96 00:18:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id AAA15254 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:16:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA15249 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:16:28 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 4 Oct 96 15:21:47 +0800 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 15:13:01 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: Dave Perry Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Forwarding mail? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Dave Perry wrote: > I am a grad student at Gonzaga University in Spokane WA. and have two > email accounts. One is on the university server and the other is with a > commercial internet provider. The commercial one is GUI where the > university one is pine. How can I forward my mail from the university > mail account to the commercial server? Hummm......abandon pine??? Maybe you should ask your commercial provider how to do it? :-) :-) But if you really want to do it then you just have to add a .forward file to your university account. The contents of the file are your address on the commercial side. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17921; Fri, 4 Oct 96 00:45:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id AAA23691 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:43:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA23686 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:43:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v94pZ-00038TC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 00:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: adm_oaep@mozart.inet.co.th (Wasu Srisanan) Subject: cmsg cancel <52km24$jbd@chopin.inet.co.th> Control: cancel <52km24$jbd@chopin.inet.co.th> Date: 3 Oct 1996 19:45:38 GMT Message-Id: <531552$30m@chopin.inet.co.th> Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:45:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19184; Fri, 4 Oct 96 00:45:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id AAA15582 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:43:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA15577 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:43:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v94qd-00038UC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 00:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alexander S. Urakov" Subject: Please, help me with 8bit subjects in Pine. Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:29:07 +0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi guys. I have a big trouble. My Pine-3.95 on RH linux (rembrandt) don't want to send message Subject as 8bit plain text and does MIME encoding of Subject before sending. When I do not set character-set=3D it does not allow me t= o type Russian characters at all in Subject field (says Unknown command). I= f I set character-set to KOI8-R pine sends subject like this: [KOI8-R] Test... ... ... If I use russian characters in subject field pine converts them to MIME encoded string and I can read this subject only on the same version of Pine. Most users in our country use mail packages which allow to display only 8bit plain text in Subject and message body. So how can I force Pine to send Subject in 8bit plain text format?? And without -- [KOI8-R] at=20 begin of line?? Please, reply to my E-mail address: alex@gil.kazan.su Thank you in advance. #! rnews 0 Path: fussy.comtat.kazan.su!usenet From: vasily@bravo.ecocom.kazan.su (Vasily N. Hakimov) Newsgroups: relcom.fido.ru.hacker Subject: Help! =F2=C1=DA=D7=C1=CC=C9=D4=D8 .exe! Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:06:20 GMT Organization: TEB Lines: 12 Message-ID: <52gdsg$8cb@fussy.comtat.kazan.su> Reply-To: vasily@bravo.ecocom.kazan.su NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.135.141.101 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Hi!! =F0=CF=CD=CF=C7=C9=D4=C5! =E5=D3=D4=D8 .exe =CE=C1 Clipper,=20 =C1 =C9=D3=C8=CF=C4=CE=C9=CB=C9 =D0=D2=CF=D0=C1=CC=C9 (=F7=C9=CE=D4 =D0=CF= =CC=C5=D4=C5=CC ;( ) =EE=C5=D4 =CC=C9 =CE=C5=DE=D4=CF =D0=CF=C4=CF=C2=CE=CF=C5 ReFox,=20 =CE=CF =C4=CC=D1 Clipper. =F0=D2=C9=DB=CC=C9=D4=C5, psl =CE=C1 vasily@bravo.ecocom.kazan.su =E2=D5=C4=D5 =CF=DE=C5=CE=D8 =C2=CC=C1=C7=CF=C4=C1=D2=C5=CE Vasily From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 01:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19408; Fri, 4 Oct 96 01:25:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id BAA24202 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 01:23:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA24197 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 01:23:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v95Uy-00038BC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 01:20 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Re: Printing from Pine 3.93 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 13:56:36 -0400 Message-Id: References: <199609221425.QAA17843@lie.matstat.unit.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199609221425.QAA17843@lie.matstat.unit.no> On Sun, 22 Sep 1996, Orjan Johansen wrote: Sorry, I meant to say version 3.94. -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s - MIDI, Humor, KI2, etc. } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 01:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19523; Fri, 4 Oct 96 01:38:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id BAA16287 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 01:36:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA16282 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 01:36:26 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:31:34 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA09475; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:36:13 +0100 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:36:13 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Yohaan John Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: CC in PINE In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Yohaan John wrote: > The only problem is that my PINE is 3.91 and I do not > think that there is a choice of "alt-addresses" in SETUP-CONFIG. At > least I didn't find any. My SETUP-CONFIG screen is this. Do you know > what I am supposed to do with PINE 3.91? Yes ... upgrade to the current version of Pine (3.95). Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 02:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10354; Fri, 4 Oct 96 02:41:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id CAA17064 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 02:38:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA17059 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 02:38:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v96eS-00038BC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 02:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: PINE piping into Zmodem Date: 27 Sep 1996 13:27:31 GMT Message-Id: <52gko3$2m7@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: Bill Gostin writes: >I'm reading a msg in a newsgroup. I wish to download it using Zmodem. >Is there a way to pipe it into rz/sz? >(I currently have to save it into a file, exit PINE, download it, re-enter >PINE. Of course I lose my place where I was last reading.) It sounds like you are running on a UNIX box. If you are using the right shell (ksh, bash, tcsh zsh), then UNIX has the ability to pause the current job, usually with a ^Z. This has to be turned on in pine, either in the system-wide pine.conf or in the users own setup. When you get finished at the UNIX prompt with whatever other jobs you are doing, you can type 'fg' to get back to the background job. If you forget the background job, or if you have more than one, then you can see what jobs are in the bg by typing 'jobs'. You can fg any job in the list by typing 'fg %n' where n is the integer number returned by 'jobs'. Back to the original Q, I am not sure recent versions of rzsz will accept redirected input as the author CAF began altering the code in about 1988-9 to prevent that kind of usage. If the text is onscreen, most terminal programs have a logging ability. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 04:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09252; Fri, 4 Oct 96 04:16:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id EAA26578 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 04:13:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA26573 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 04:13:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v987v-00038BC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 04:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jungshik Shin Subject: Re: Pine's Export command (Re: Select(Cur)) Date: 27 Sep 1996 09:53:54 -0400 Message-Id: <52gm9i$ka9@net161-61.student.yale.edu> References: Holger Lillqvist wrote: : By the way, testing this select/apply function I found a nice thing: if : you select all messages in a folder and then export them to a file, in : that process automatically: : a. all unnecessary headers are weeded out (saves much space) : b. all Quoted-Printable codes are decoded (a fine thing in 8-bit areas, : especially as Pine's reply -function generates QP-code :-(. Thanks a lot for this tip. I found that in this process(you don't have to choose all messages in the folder), Pine also applies 'display filter' and saves message(s) in local code(code set converted by display filter), which is very nice for Korean(and possiblely Japanese and Chinese as well) mail which uses different charset/encoding(7bit ISO-2022-KR) from local charset(8bit EUC-KR=KSC 5601)(For details, see RFC 1557). Jungshik Shin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 04:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20206; Fri, 4 Oct 96 04:31:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id EAA18459 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 04:28:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA18454 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 04:28:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v98Lq-00038BC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 04:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan Richards Subject: Re: How to get INBOX on starting ??? Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:07:12 -0400 Message-Id: References: <52u2lf$16i@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <52u2lf$16i@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> On 2 Oct 1996, Patrick M. McMillin wrote: > How do I configure my pine to go directly to > inbox upon starting the porgram ? Setup, Configure, initial-keystroke-list, add, i From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 04:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21068; Fri, 4 Oct 96 04:41:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id EAA26856 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 04:38:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA26851 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 04:38:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v98Wz-00038TC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 04:35 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Reginald N Patton Subject: Author's name when posting to newsgroups Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 10:02:57 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do I get the author's name to show up in the listing of names and posts when posting with pine. If I post to a newsgroup the Author looks like this: To: comp.mail.pine. I couldn't find an option to do this. If anyone knows how to do this please me know. TIA. -- Reginald N Patton MDT, Inc. rnp@mdtsoft.com "Time is an excellent teacher, unfortunately it kills all of it's pupils." --Hector Berlioz From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 05:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21412; Fri, 4 Oct 96 05:43:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id FAA19300 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 05:38:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA19295 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 05:38:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v99Qh-00038BC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 05:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Beckman Subject: Connections to IMAP server using PINE Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:01:17 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We've got a seperate mail server running IMAP, and we use pine to get our mail. Well, this sucks because it takes almost 30 seconds to get my login/password prompt. WHY!!!! Does it ALWAYS take this long, or are we doing something wrong? The machines are physically next to eachother, and we have twisted pair going right to it, and traceroute yields a 2.0ns access time. What's going on? How do we fix it? Please e-mail responses. Peter -- Peter Beckman The Apartment, Alexandria, VA beckman@purplecow.com http://www.purplecow.com/~beckman/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:06:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13853; Fri, 4 Oct 96 06:06:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id GAA19586 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:04:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA19577 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:04:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v99r2-00038TC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 05:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Tse" Subject: Re: Undelete??? Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:19:32 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: Mime-Version: 1.0 On Sun, 29 Sep 1996, Colleen Bridge wrote: > Is it possible to undelete files in pine?? I deleted all of my files by > mistake (long story) and want them back, some are very important to me > (longer story) :) If you have "snapshot" installed on your system, you can always recover past files by going to the directory : $HOME/.snapshot/ ... As a last resort, try to persuade your system administrator to recover the lost files for you ... Hope this helps. :-) J. Tse ---------------------------------------------------------------- J. Tse Internet E-mail : jyetse@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca ---------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21564; Fri, 4 Oct 96 06:06:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id GAA27787 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:04:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA27782 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:03:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v99qH-00038BC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 05:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sean Cross Subject: How do I delete a posting to a newsgroup? Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:53:25 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a shell account and using pine 3.93. I would like to know how to delete a posting that i have posted to a forsale newsgroup? I have seen this done a couple of times, But i forgot how to do this. It has something to do with Control: in the subject header as I recall. Thank You. Secross@whidbey.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:37:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19440; Fri, 4 Oct 96 06:37:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id GAA28171 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:34:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA28166 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:34:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9AI7-00038XC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 06:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ian G. Clark ... *Sparks*" Subject: a problem and a question on 3.95 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:55:27 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi , I am using 3.95 on a sun box, and i have my inbox on a remote machine. occasionally when i login the status line which asks me for my inbox user name and password doesnt repaint the screen properly and leaves some of the status line blank. The question i have is, is it possible at the beginning of a new month for pine to auto prune folders and auto move the old ones so nothing is lost, and so that i dont have to go through with pine saying delete this to save disk space? Cheers Ian ps please reply by email as well. Ian G. Clark BSc.(ENG) AMIEE : *Sparks*. Electronic Eng., Kings College London. My comments,not KCL's. Mensa:61150 <>< *I've found the truth! How about you?* igclark@iee.org, {ian.clark@, i.g.clark@, ian@orion.eee., ianc@dcs.}kcl.ac.uk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:37:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12550; Fri, 4 Oct 96 06:37:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id GAA19967 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:34:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA19962 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:34:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9AIX-00038UC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 06:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bg283@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Tadeusz Szocik) Subject: PINE please!!!! Date: 3 Oct 1996 04:14:31 GMT Message-Id: <52vej7$aac@freenet-news.carleton.ca> How about replacing the current mail client with PINE? PLEASE?!!!!!!!!!! I just tried to upload a file using MIME and needless to say it fell over. There can't be any reason not to have PINE, can there? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 07:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13281; Fri, 4 Oct 96 07:02:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id GAA20280 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:57:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sunspot.ccs.yorku.ca (sunspot.ccs.yorku.ca [130.63.236.88]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA20275 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:57:32 -0700 Received: (from rgeater@localhost) by sunspot.ccs.yorku.ca (8.7.6/8.6.11) id JAA17235; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:57:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:57:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Geater X-Sender: rgeater@sunspot.ccs.yorku.ca To: Pine Info Subject: Printing with no FPU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello. Just a quick question about running pine on a MAC network. Printing from pine works fine from the PowerMacs and the Mac IIci(s) but trying to print from the Mac IIsi(s) causes a 'bomb' [error message: no FPU]. Does the new version of pine require a FPU and if so, how can I get around this problem without installing a FPU (emulated or otherwise). thanks, rick... <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < Rick Geater - Computer Services > < York University - Faculty of Environmental Studies > < North York, Ontario, M3J 1P3 > < Voice: (416) 736-2100 ext.22618 > < FAX: (416) 736-5679 > < Internet: rgeater@yorku.ca > < WWW: www.interlog.com/~geater/homerick.htm > < -------------------------------------------------- > < If you're not living on the edge, > < you're taking up too much space! > < > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 08:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18917; Fri, 4 Oct 96 08:16:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id IAA29740 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 08:12:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mhub0.tc.umn.edu (mhub0.tc.umn.edu [128.101.131.50]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA29735 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 08:12:12 -0700 Received: from maroon.tc.umn.edu by mhub0.tc.umn.edu; Fri, 4 Oct 96 10:12:10 -0500 Received: by maroon.tc.umn.edu; Fri, 4 Oct 96 10:12:10 -0500 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 10:12:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Yohaan John To: Mike Brudenell Cc: Yohaan John , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: CC in PINE In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 4 Oct 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Yohaan John wrote: > > > The only problem is that my PINE is 3.91 and I do not > > think that there is a choice of "alt-addresses" in SETUP-CONFIG. At > > least I didn't find any. My SETUP-CONFIG screen is this. Do you know > > what I am supposed to do with PINE 3.91? > > Yes ... upgrade to the current version of Pine (3.95). > > Cheers, > > -- > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If only the University of Minnesota (probably the largest college campus in the US) would listen to that piece of advice were I to propose it. :-) I'll give it a shot though. Thanks a lot. Yohaan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 08:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09511; Fri, 4 Oct 96 08:47:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id IAA22106 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 08:40:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA22089 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 08:40:00 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:34:59 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id QAA26354; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:39:32 +0100 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:39:32 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Peter Beckman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Connections to IMAP server using PINE In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" It is taking this long because Pine is attempting to establish a "pre-authenticated IMAP connection" to your server in order to save you having to type in your username and password. The problem is that whoever set up the IMAP server software hasn't installed the symbolic link (and perhaps changes to the rsh mechanism to allow this). Pine tries for a while, gives up, and falls back to asking you for your username and password. Two possible solutions: 1. Get the IMAP server software installed properly to allow pre-authenticated connections. Doing so will save you and others from having to enter their username and password each time they start Pine. 2. Append ":143: to the hostname in the string specifying the IMAP server in your Pine configuration file. Do this by starting Pine and going to its Setup Configuration screen. Then look through all the settings and look for those specifying your IMAP server. Say these are to the machine "imap.site.domain" ... they will currently look something like this: {imap.site.domain}INBOX Change this to have ":143" at the end of the hostname: {imap.site.domain:143}INBOX (Note: I am assuming that your IMAP server software is "talking" on the standard IMAP port -- 143 -- if not then replace 143 with the appropriate port number.) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 30 Sep 1996, Peter Beckman wrote: > We've got a seperate mail server running IMAP, and we use pine to get > our mail. Well, this sucks because it takes almost 30 seconds to get > my login/password prompt. WHY!!!! Does it ALWAYS take this long, or > are we doing something wrong? The machines are physically next to > eachother, and we have twisted pair going right to it, and traceroute > yields a 2.0ns access time. What's going on? How do we fix it? > > Please e-mail responses. > > Peter > -- > Peter Beckman The Apartment, Alexandria, VA > beckman@purplecow.com http://www.purplecow.com/~beckman/ > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32329; Fri, 4 Oct 96 13:08:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA29893 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:04:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA29877 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:04:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9GSo-00038TC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 13:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: afsypng@pollux.cmc.aes.doe.ca (Jacques Marcoux) Subject: Re: reading attached files Date: 02 Oct 1996 09:20:31 -0400 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: asc0@lex.lccc.edu's message of 1 Oct 1996 07:08:49 -0700 >>>>> "Anna" == Anna Colosi writes: In article asc0@lex.lccc.edu (Anna Colosi) writes: Anna> I am a new user and can not read attachments set to me. They are word Anna> documents that I can not read. Do I have to config something? Anna> Thanks. UNIX box? If so ask your sysadmin about .mailcap -- ______ ______ ___/ /_______________________________________/ /_ /_ __//_____//_Jacques_//_Marcoux_//_____/_ __/ /_/ /_/ jmarcoux@ec.gc.ca 514.421.4794 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20336; Fri, 4 Oct 96 13:12:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA08221 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:09:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA08216 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:09:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9GTS-00038BC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 13:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: .forward filter? Date: 2 Oct 1996 13:35:22 GMT Message-Id: References: darius@alliedproductions.com (Michael Darius): > I have been trying for ages to create a filter for my forward file. > or figure out another way to accomplish this task... If your ISP offers ELM's "filter" then look at my descriptions on this page: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/elm.filter.html > I have been trying to make a filter to be able to make it so that if > it says a specific user@alliedproductions.com then it will be forwarded > to their email address... Add this rule to $HOME/.elm/filter-rules : if (from = address) then forward address.new And if you want to keep a copy of it then use the action "forwardc", ie if (from = address) then forwardc address.new > an example of what I have tried: > if for: jan@alliedproductions.com then to: jan@anotherdomain.com > if for: dave@alliedproductions.com then to: dave@anotherdomain.com > none of which have worked... If you know the format for which this should > look, or have any information regarding this subject please send mail .. If you don't tell us the name of the filter you use then we cannot help you. Sven@mydomainnameislongerthanyours.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00599; Fri, 4 Oct 96 13:43:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA09049 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:40:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA09044 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:40:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9H0G-00038TC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 13:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: Printing with no FPU Date: 4 Oct 1996 16:57:32 GMT Message-Id: <533fls$mul@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article , rgeater@Yorku.CA (Rick Geater) writes: > Hello. > Just a quick question about running pine on a MAC network. Printing from > pine works fine from the PowerMacs and the Mac IIci(s) but trying to > print from the Mac IIsi(s) causes a 'bomb' [error message: no FPU]. Does > the new version of pine require a FPU and if so, how can I get around this > problem without installing a FPU (emulated or otherwise). It is a bit confusing. How did you use Pine on a Mac? Did you use telnet to log into a Unix machine, and used Pine there? Which telnet software did you use? NCSA Telnet? Which version? Which Unix did you log into? What version of Mac system did you use? Is the printer hooked to the Mac or the Unix? Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu for my PGP pub. key= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00013; Fri, 4 Oct 96 13:44:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA01181 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:40:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA01170 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:39:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9H04-00038BC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 13:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Schleichert Subject: server line breakdown - what now? Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 18:36:34 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What can I do to save my work when the line to the remote server breaks down while I am composing a message? Postpone seems to need the server. Thanks, - Hans From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:58:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00761; Fri, 4 Oct 96 13:58:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA01570 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:54:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA01562 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:54:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9HE7-00038BC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 13:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: "Move read messages?" prompt Date: 4 Oct 1996 18:52:19 GMT Message-Id: <533md3$21q@due.unit.no> References: In article , Emily H Kelly wrote: >Whenever I quit Pine with messages still in my inbox, I receive the prompt >asking, "Move messages to "read-messages"?" Now I know how to configure >Pine to move the messages without prompting; I also know how to configure >Pine to move the messages to the folder of my choice rather than the >default. What I haven't been able to figure out is how to configure Pine >either to quit prompting me altogether, or to offer the prompt with a >default reply "no" (so I could just through it without affecting >my mail). To remove this feature, unset the configurated value for the read-message-folder. I don't know whether it is possible to do this for values which are set globally, though. (Changing the value is OK, but is removing it altogether so?) Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02917; Fri, 4 Oct 96 16:24:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id QAA13669 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:20:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA13664 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:20:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9JUA-00038XC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 16:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: adam.kippes@pobox.com (Adam Kippes) Subject: Re: Newsgroups header in Pine and Eudora Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 01:07:47 GMT Message-Id: <531ntn$1d4@news.zipnet.net> References: <52t00j$iu@lex.zippo.com> mist@cyberus.ca wrote: >Try as I might, I cannot find a way of getting either Eudora Lite or >Unix PINE to let me type in a "Newsgroups" header which I need for >bunging an article through a mail2news gateway. >Is it possible? How please? Mist, Do you mean you want to add a header called "Newsgroups", as in "Newsgroups: comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows, ..." ? If so, there is an ExtraHeaders variable in the INI file; unfortunately, I don't think it was available before Pro v2.2. Good luck, -- AK --------------------- adam.kippes@pobox.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03795; Fri, 4 Oct 96 16:24:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id QAA05838 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:20:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA05833 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:20:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9JVB-00038YC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 16:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert Frayer Subject: error posting message? Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:54:52 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When I try to send a reply to a message and include the original message in the reply I am given "error posting message:441 article not posted more included text than new". I'm not sure exactly what this means and what to do about it. Sincerely, Bob. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 17:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05682; Fri, 4 Oct 96 17:48:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id RAA15785 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 17:46:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA15780 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 17:46:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9KmR-00038YC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 17:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: distribution lists Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 20:35:36 -0400 Message-Id: References: <52kmlr$kn2@hume.nmia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <52kmlr$kn2@hume.nmia.com> On 29 Sep 1996 ant_sue@nmia.com wrote: > I have been using Pine 3.91 [...] Since you are using an old verion of Pine, you will not be able to use one of the nifty-swifty new features (Lcc:). > (1) is there a way to send to (all members within) a distribution list > without Pine printing out all of the member names into the header area? > [...] Yes. Enter the name of the list in the Bcc: field instead of the To: field. (Press Ctrl-R for Rich Headers if Bcc: is not visible.) It is very important that you put *something* in the To: field, or your distribution will wind up being visible anyway. Probably the simplest thing to do is to put your own address in the To: field. This way, each recipient will only see his/her address. (Recommendation: pester your service provider into upgrading Pine to current level so you can use the new Lcc: feature.) > (2) if you have a file in your directory that is a listing of e-mail > addresses, is there a way to tell pine to use that (file) without having to > enter all those addresses into an ADDRESS BOOK distribution list? This one I do not know (but would like to know) myself. Let's hope one of the other fine people on this group will know. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 18:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26162; Fri, 4 Oct 96 18:14:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id SAA08606 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 18:10:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA08601 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 18:10:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9LA0-00038YC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 18:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roland@spinnaker.rhein.de (Roland Rosenfeld) Subject: Re: pgp-interface Date: 30 Sep 1996 18:28:01 +0200 Message-Id: <52oseh$s66@spinnaker.rhein.de> References: <324C000B.11D7@atpibm6000.tuwien.ac.at> <52ogvr$3km@news.ececs.uc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jie Yuan wrote: > > does anyone know if there exists a pine-pgp-interface and where to get > > it! > I have a web page that describes the use of PGP with Pine (3.92 or > newer) on Unix machines (SGI in particular). There is a short (a > dozen lines) shell script in this scheme. A few configuration > settings in Pine. It is quite simple and easy. Please check it > out: > http://www.pharm.med.uc.edu/~yuan/pine_pgp.html > Note it is an underline "_", not a hyphen in the filename. And don't forget to have a look at the alternative solution, which can be found at http://www.rhein.de/~roland/pgppine/ Ciao Roland -- * Internet: roland@spinnaker.rhein.de * Fido: 2:2450/42 * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 22:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08619; Fri, 4 Oct 96 22:03:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id WAA19213 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 22:00:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA19205 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 22:00:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9Omb-00038aC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 21:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: Move current "sent-mail" msg Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 18:00:32 GMT Message-Id: <533j7i$qvr@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <52ucer$nqd@stratus.skypoint.net> <52ufg6$584@news.gte.com> On 2 Oct 1996 19:23:50 GMT, stephen.weihman@tel.gte.com wrote: >sstarr@skypoint.com (Susan Starr) writes: >> How do I get rid of the message 'Move current "sent-mail" to >> "sent-mail-sep-1996"?'. >Doesn't work that way for me, but I'm running 3.95. Anyway, you can >always change your .pinerc file. Simply edit .pinerc and look for: > ># Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. >last-time-prune-questioned=96.10 > ^^^^^ >Just change the date to the current month. I suppose you could also >set it ahead so that pine won't ever ask, but I can't verify that. I can. Mine's set to 99.12 and I'm never bugged by those (to me) annoying messages. I think you can set it ahead farther than that, but I seem to recall a reliable source posting to this group a while back that Pine assumes we're in the 20th century; if you want to go beyond 1999, you need to specify the century (e.g. - "2000.01" for January 2000). -Ram -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 22:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10936; Fri, 4 Oct 96 22:59:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id WAA12091 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 22:57:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA12086 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 22:57:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9Pg9-00038aC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 22:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Patricia Robinett Subject: my name as newsgroup author NOT Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:34:56 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: i do not understand. i have the same problem as others, that instead of my name showing up in the newsgroup authors list, there is a to:alt.astrology or to:starman or some such nonsense. and it isnot only from my list that it is not identified as my posting. others have also had problems finding my writings. plus it appears that my name isnot showing up when i reply to postings via email. i am losing patience with this, as i feel powerless. what is the problem? what can i do to get my name to show up under the newsgroup authors list? an interesting theory, adam, that this only happens within pine, but others are not able to find my postings either. i don't like this new feature. i need to be able to find my postings by my name and for others to be able to find my postings by my name. i post articles that are of interest to others and they look for my articles by my name. this is important to me. please tell me how to change this posting name thing. On 21 Sep 1996 hurry@imap2..asu.edu wrote: > : When I want to post a message to a newsgroup I use my personal name > : which is butterfly. Usually (with the old version of pine), upon posting, > : what others see when they look at my message in the index is my personal > : name and the subject of the message. This time, after posting, my > : personal name did not appear. Instead, it said, "To: 'newsgroup name'" > : and the subject. > > This is actually only within pine. Your actual message shows up with > "butterfly." no it doesn't. What you are seeing is a new feature allowing you to > easily identify messages you have sent. The idea is that you want to > know where you sent your messages. is there an option that changes this wonderful new feature to the old feature? > -- > Adam Myrow > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 23:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31446; Fri, 4 Oct 96 23:06:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id XAA19888 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 23:04:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA19883 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 23:04:35 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 5 Oct 96 14:09:52 +0800 Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 14:03:27 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko To: Ramanuj Basu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Move current "sent-mail" msg In-Reply-To: <533j7i$qvr@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 4 Oct 1996, Ramanuj Basu wrote: > I can. Mine's set to 99.12 and I'm never bugged by those (to me) > annoying messages. I think you can set it ahead farther than that, but > I seem to recall a reliable source posting to this group a while back that > Pine assumes we're in the 20th century; if you want to go beyond 1999, you > need to specify the century (e.g. - "2000.01" for January 2000). Close, to get to the year 2000 just add "1" to 1999. i.e. 100=2000 so if you intend to use pine that long then 170 would bring you to 2070. :-) :-) Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 00:18:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09546; Sat, 5 Oct 96 00:18:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id AAA20678 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 00:16:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA20673 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 00:16:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9QtB-00038aC; Sat, 5 Oct 96 00:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tramm@jove.acs.unt.edu (Thomas Fritz Ramm) Subject: Re: distribution lists Date: 4 Oct 1996 23:06:42 GMT Message-Id: <5345a2$8co@hermes.acs.unt.edu> References: <52kmlr$kn2@hume.nmia.com> Answer to question (1): Use the Lcc: field. It shows the name of the list in the header but doesn't show the individual addresses ant_sue@nmia.com wrote: > I have been using Pine 3.91 for awhile but I am not very familiar with the > use of the address book. I've figured out how to make a distribution list > within ADDRESS BOOK, and to use the name of the distribution list in > COMPOSE MESSAGE to send a message to all within the list. But ... > (1) is there a way to send to (all members within) a distribution list > without Pine printing out all of the member names into the header area? > (I'd rather not have everyone in the group know who is in the group) > I have seen this work for some mail tools on VMS systems ... I am currently using a UNIX system ... and Pine? > (2) if you have a file in your directory that is a listing of e-mail > addresses, is there a way to tell pine to use that (file) without having to > enter all those addresses into an ADDRESS BOOK distribution list? > > TIA > Sue Foltz > -- > ************************************************************************ > * By the way, are you PAYING MORE THAN YOU HAVE TO on LONG DISTANCE? * > * * -- Thomas --------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas F Ramm --> tramm@jove.acs.unt.edu --> tramm@stephens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 00:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22868; Sat, 5 Oct 96 00:18:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id AAA13027 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 00:16:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA13022 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 00:16:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9QwC-00038cC; Sat, 5 Oct 96 00:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Anthony Towns Subject: Filtering Header lines Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 14:53:19 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ~Fake-From: Anthony Towns -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, I was wondering if anyone could offer some advice on filtering lines in a message header, specifically when posting a message to a newsgroup. First a little background: I've got my computer set up so that the newsgroups I read regularly get put into a number of ``category'' folders: I've got one for programming, one for aus newsgroups, and so on. To distinguish the original newsgroup, I've put a ``[-news.group.name-]'' tag in front of the subject line. It works really well. Until I come to reply to one of these messages and forget to remove the [-...-] tag, and make myself look like a fool. Well, more or less. I can cope with mail messages, because I can (and have) changed ``sendmail'' to a batchfile. One other thing, is there a particular reason why Pine ignores brackets when sorting by Subject? Thanx in advance, aj - -- Anthony Towns | #include aj@humbug.org.au | PGP Key: 0x7172DAED http://student.uq.edu.au/~s343676 | Life is not a matroid. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: ascii Comment: Public key available from http://student.uq.edu.au/~s343676 iQCVAwUBMlXpw+RRvX9xctrtAQGlQAP8DwXQI1yNTcZFU3DbtPCpVOYR5rTpYDLr xjlotH0CVcqF2UEojaN/K6HZWqD2I+EKQPuyYkGjDlP0P8J+/foMLBJv4ND4qCis 9aMrePqlae52w5eSfL/Zfn66Eh0AkGQ0ImtNtbq2qK8aDhaDmagzoGAhTgsBV823 SYCEkLezstI= =iSdH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 00:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09997; Sat, 5 Oct 96 00:23:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id AAA20776 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 00:21:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA20771 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 00:21:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9QwX-00038aC; Sat, 5 Oct 96 00:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Anthony Towns Subject: Re: How can I filter *existing* email? Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 14:40:59 +1000 Message-Id: References: <52vto7$e7q@basecamp1.net-quest.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <52vto7$e7q@basecamp1.net-quest.com> ~Fake-From: Anthony Towns -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- [posted & mailed] On 3 Oct 1996, Mike Carlson wrote: > Now with that out of the way...Is there any way to take one huge email > box and split it into various folders? I've managed to get procmail going > just fine with new mail, but this old stuff just hangs out in one big blob. You should have ``formail'' if you also have procmail. formail lets you split a mailbox up into the component messages and pass them through another program. Assuming you have procmail set up to handle new mail properly, $ formail < /mail/mike -s procmail -d mike ie ``run the command [procmail deliver to mike] for each message in [/mail/mike]'' > Also, since the folders already contain new email, is there a way to have > it arrange them in the right date order? (Thought I'd ask while I was at it.) Sorry, but I can't help you on that one. Setting Pine's ``Sort order'' to Date (as opposed to Arrival) gets most of it right, but odd date formats still (used to? I upgraded to 3.95 yesterday. Maybe it works now) confuse it. Hope this helps, aj - -- Anthony Towns | #include aj@humbug.org.au | PGP Key: 0x7172DAED http://student.uq.edu.au/~s343676 | Life is not a matroid. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: ascii Comment: Public key available from http://student.uq.edu.au/~s343676 iQCVAwUBMlXm5eRRvX9xctrtAQFmyAQArBBLslxVzELNKSprudQ9Kwle7iZuIbvx spzvuBmJBXvoaqkFj73ftpsj1M2HB/dQXEb8nO2GUAVZjw8JPeMEsXf4BaF6jrzU icwfrXBlNm+C9NnLdAyuVS+NeyTLJRFFfaAoB3kvSX27+Cy11jI0L/mIEuOIHV+g 9X38xWsFBtY= =5ZQP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 03:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31063; Sat, 5 Oct 96 03:35:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id DAA15398 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 03:31:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA15393 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 03:31:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9Twc-00038aC; Sat, 5 Oct 96 03:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Carl D. Cravens" Subject: Chinese characters? Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:55:59 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I recently upgraded our Pine from 3.91 to 3.95... the upgrade when quite smoothly and happy with the new features. Except that I broke something for one of our users... with 3.91, he was able to enter Chinese double-byte characters, but with this version he is not able to. I can't seem to figure out how to enable this. (3.91 came pre-compiled with BSD/OS, so I don't know how that one was done.) Is this something that Pine itself supports, and can you help me fix it? Thanks a lot. -- Carl D. Cravens Technical Support / Junior Administrator cravens@southwind.net SouthWind Internet Access, Inc. http://www.southwind.net/ Wichita: 316-263-7963 Elsewhere: 1-800-525-7963 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 04:10:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04485; Sat, 5 Oct 96 04:10:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id EAA23507 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 04:06:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA23502 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 04:06:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9UTz-00038aC; Sat, 5 Oct 96 04:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zach@world.std.com (Zachary H Leber) Subject: 3.95 has delays on sending Message-Id: Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:12:24 GMT With Pine 3.95 on my HP-UX 9.05 system, it occasionally pauses for 5-20 seconds when trying to send mail. I don't think this happened before, and my HP-UX hasn't changed. Can anyone help? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 05:54:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12873; Sat, 5 Oct 96 05:54:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id FAA17056 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 05:52:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA17051 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 05:51:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9W6V-00038aC; Sat, 5 Oct 96 05:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Thomas Meinders Subject: HELP on error! Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 12:51:17 +0100 Message-Id: <32564BB5.62F926ED@mechb.uni-stuttgart.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello out there: Suddenly my great email program seems to give me trouble. Without changing anything at the configuration the program doesn't send email anymore. It gives me the following error message: -- [Mail not sent. Sending error: 451 queuename: Cannot create "qfMAA08204] Does anybody has an idea what I could do about it? I would appreciate your email! Thomas Meinders _____________________________________________________________________________ | | | /\ Thomas Meinders | | / \ | | /\ \ / Institute B of Mechanics | | / \ \/ /\ University of Stuttgart | | \ / / \ Pfaffenwaldring 9 Phone: +49 (711) 685-6821 | | \/ /\ \ / 70550 Stuttgart Fax: +49 (711) 685-6400 | | / \ \/ Germany Email: mt@mechb.uni-stuttgart.de | | \ / Web: www.uni-stuttgart.de/UNIuser/ | | \/ mechb/Leute/Meinders/home.html | | ---------------------------------------------------------------+ | privat: Friesenstr. 20, 71065 Sinde From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 06:08:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12834; Sat, 5 Oct 96 06:08:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id GAA24743 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 06:07:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA24730 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 06:06:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9WPl-00038aC; Sat, 5 Oct 96 06:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ken Varley" Subject: Attachments Date: 5 Oct 1996 00:47:21 GMT Message-Id: <01bbb256$82f44a00$02e0aec7@none.sprynet.com> My son is away at college. He is receiving mail from me via the pine program. I have sent him some file attachments, but he says he does not know how to open them. I have never used Pine. Can someone explain to me so I can explain to him how to handle the attached files I sent him. I am using the Microsoft Explorer Mail Program. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 07:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05812; Sat, 5 Oct 96 07:12:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id HAA25404 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 07:10:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from are.Berkeley.EDU (are.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.175.17]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA25399 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 07:10:44 -0700 Received: from localhost (gautam@localhost) by are.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA22376 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 07:00:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 07:00:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Gautam Sethi To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: creating aliases Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi. could you please tell me how i can create aliases in pine? i teach classes that have upto a 100 people, and do not want the message headers to have a 100 addresses. i'll appreciate it if you can help. thanks, gautam. ******************************************************************** Gautam Sethi Tel: (510) 642-3345 207 Giannini Hall Fax: (510) 643-8911 Univ of California Eml: gautam@are.berkeley.edu Berkeley, CA 94720 Web: http://are.berkeley.edu/~gautam ******************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 07:56:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13995; Sat, 5 Oct 96 07:56:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id HAA18356 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 07:54:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA18351 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 07:54:22 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 5 Oct 96 22:59:36 +0800 Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 22:53:10 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: Gautam Sethi Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: creating aliases In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 5 Oct 1996, Gautam Sethi wrote: > hi. could you please tell me how i can create aliases in pine? i teach > classes that have upto a 100 people, and do not want the message headers > to have a 100 addresses. i'll appreciate it if you can help. You are using pine3.95. So, you are well on your way. You seem to work at Berkeley so with luck you won't mind a bit of "Information Research".... From the m(ain) menu, type a(ddressbook). Then type ?(help) are read about the addressbook...which is really giving you a way to do aliases. Pay special attention to the section on "Distribution List" which may come in handy when you want to sent to all 100 people at the same time. Then, while composing a mail and with your cursor in the upper portion of the screen type ^R(ich hdr). Then put your cursor on the Lcc: field and type ^G(help). Now, you should have the information you need....and you've learned a bit more about the help features of pine. This help feature is available without cost or obligation...and you don't have to be told to use it in order for it to be of assistance. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 09:11:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06640; Sat, 5 Oct 96 09:11:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id JAA26837 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 09:09:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs-mail.bu.edu (ACS-MAIL.BU.EDU [128.197.153.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA26826 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 09:09:06 -0700 Received: from bu.edu (MED-PHYSIO11.BU.EDU [155.41.110.9]) by acs-mail.bu.edu (8.7.6/BU_Server-1.3) with SMTP id MAA147513; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:08:39 -0400 Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:08:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Gregor J Jones To: Paul O Bartlett Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, ant_sue@nmia.com Subject: Re: distribution lists In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 4 Oct 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: | On 29 Sep 1996 ant_sue@nmia.com wrote: | | > (2) if you have a file in your directory that is a listing of e-mail | > addresses, is there a way to tell pine to use that (file) without having | > to enter all those addresses into an ADDRESS BOOK distribution list? | | This one I do not know (but would like to know) myself. I have not had reason to try this, but I do have a suggestion. Compose a message to yourself, with the file containing the addresses as an 'attachment'. Then, when the message arrives, use the viewer to 'view' the attachment, which should look like the original list, and then use 'take address' to get the addresses. The trick is to get that file into some format that can be read by Pine. Yours Gregor -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Dr. Gregor J. Jones Tel: (617) 638-5336 Department of Physiology (617) 282-4484 (home) Boston University School of Medicine Fax: (617) 638-4273 Boston MA 02118, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 10:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15136; Sat, 5 Oct 96 10:24:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id KAA20494 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 10:21:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from are.Berkeley.EDU (are.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.175.17]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA20489 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 10:21:12 -0700 Received: from localhost (gautam@localhost) by are.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23075; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 09:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 09:59:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Gautam Sethi To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: creating aliases In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII thanks a lot, ed. it worked! thanks, gautam. ******************************************************************** Gautam Sethi Tel: (510) 642-3345 207 Giannini Hall Fax: (510) 643-8911 Univ of California Eml: gautam@are.berkeley.edu Berkeley, CA 94720 Web: http://are.berkeley.edu/~gautam ******************************************************************** On Sat, 5 Oct 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Sat, 5 Oct 1996, Gautam Sethi wrote: > > > hi. could you please tell me how i can create aliases in pine? i teach > > classes that have upto a 100 people, and do not want the message headers > > to have a 100 addresses. i'll appreciate it if you can help. > > You are using pine3.95. So, you are well on your way. You > seem to work at Berkeley so with luck you won't mind a bit of > "Information Research".... > > From the m(ain) menu, type a(ddressbook). Then type ?(help) > are read about the addressbook...which is really giving you a way > to do aliases. Pay special attention to the section on "Distribution > List" which may come in handy when you want to sent to all 100 people > at the same time. > > Then, while composing a mail and with your cursor in the upper > portion of the screen type ^R(ich hdr). Then put your cursor on the > Lcc: field and type ^G(help). > > Now, you should have the information you need....and you've > learned a bit more about the help features of pine. This help feature is > available without cost or obligation...and you don't have to be told > to use it in order for it to be of assistance. > > Regards, > > Ed > > > ----- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15967; Sat, 5 Oct 96 12:36:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id MAA22056 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:29:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA22047 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:28:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9cKw-00038iC; Sat, 5 Oct 96 12:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FAQ Editor Subject: Filtering Mail FAQ Date: 4 Oct 1996 23:37:54 -0400 Message-Id: Archive-name: mail/filtering-faq Posting-frequency: approximately monthly Last-modified: 4 October 1996 Copyright: See section 7.0 FAQ-launcher-URLs: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ http://www.best.com/~ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ All current hypertext versions of this FAQ are accessible through either of the above two "FAQ Launcher" URLs. If you want to link to this FAQ, please link to these launchers rather than to only one version of the FAQ (e.g., rather than linking to the version you are viewing right now!). This will give your users a choice of which version they access, e.g., a single-file version or an index-plus-multiple-files version. Also, please give links to both mirrors of the launcher since sometimes one or the other is down. _____________________________________________________ ________| |________ \ | FILTERING MAIL FAQ | / \ | Copyright (c) 1994-96 Nancy McGough and others | / / |_____________________________________________________| \ /___________) (__________\ TABLE OF CONTENTS 0.0 Preliminaries 0.1 Getting the Latest Version of this FAQ 0.1.1 Hypertext 0.1.2 Plain Text 0.2 Terminology 0.3 Notation 1.0 Mail Folder Strategies 1.1 Naming Incoming Mail Folders 1.2 Reading Incoming Mail Folders 2.0 Procmail 2.1 Setting Up Procmail 2.1.1 Is Procmail on Your System? 2.1.2 Setting Up Procmail for Testing 2.1.3 Testing 2.1.4 Setting Up Procmail to Filter Mailing List Messages 2.2 Troubleshooting Procmail 2.2.1 General Strategies 2.2.2 Alternate .forward files 2.3 Explanation of Test Recipe 2.4 Tracking Your Incoming Mail 2.5 Procmail References 3.0 Mailagent 3.1 Setting Up Mailagent 3.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail 3.3 How Safe Mailagent Processing Is? 3.4 Locking Under Mailagent 3.5 Folder Types Supported 3.6 Mailagent References 4.0 Filter 4.1 Setting up Filter 4.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail 4.3 Filter References 5.0 Mailer and Newsreader References 6.0 Contributors 6.1 Acknowledgements 6.2 Contributing to this FAQ 7.0 Copyright Notice ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.0 Preliminaries Q: How can I have my incoming mailing-list messages automatically put into appropriate folders? This is one of the most frequently asked questions about email. This FAQ provides basic instructions for Unix users to set up either procmail, mailagent, or elm's filter to filter incoming mailing-list messages. If you have a choice, I recommend procmail which is powerful, robust, and is actively developed and supported. All these mail processors can also be set up to filter other types of incoming messages, send automated replies, etc. For instructions see the relevant references listed below. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.1 Getting the Latest Version of this FAQ If this FAQ is over a couple months old, there may be an updated version. Please get the latest hypertext or plain text version from one of the places listed below. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.1.1 Hypertext The best way to read this FAQ (and most other FAQs too) is to view the hypertext version using a Web browser such as Cello, Lynx, Mosaic, Netscape Navigator, Microsoft Internet Explorer, OmniWeb, SpiderWoman or WinWeb. This will allow you to easily jump: * between subjects in the FAQ * to any Uniform Resource Locator (URL) in the FAQ * to an Internet Request For Comments document (RFC) * to some manual pages This, and all FAQs that are crossposted to news.answers, are available at the following hypertext FAQ archives: http://www.cs.ruu.nl/cgi-bin/faqwais/ http://www.lib.ox.ac.uk/search/search_faqs.html http://www.smartpages.com/bngfaqs/top.html All hypertext versions of this particular FAQ are accessible through either of these "FAQ Launcher" URLs: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ http://www.best.com/~ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.1.2 Plain Text The plain text version is regularly posted to comp.mail.misc, comp.mail.elm, comp.mail.mh, comp.mail.mush, comp.mail.pine, comp.mail.zmail, comp.answers, and news.answers. It's in digest format which means that you may be able to use your newsreader to easily move between digest items (e.g., nn uses G% to burst a digest and trn uses ^G to jump to the next digest item). The plain text FAQ is also available through: Anonymous FTP: ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq Email: Send mail to: mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu Containing the following in the body of the message: send usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq UUCP: uunet!/archive/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq Hard Copy: A printed version of this FAQ is in Chapter 25 of the book "Internet Secrets" by John R. Levine and Carol Baroudi; published 1995 by IDG Books; ISBN 1-56884-452-2. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.2 Terminology Term Meaning ==== ======= mailer or MUA Mail user agent such as pine or elm pico PIne COmposer - a user friendly editor reader Mailer, newsreader, or Web browser that can read mail folders regular expression Text that can include "wild cards" (such as . to match any single character); used for searching ^x Press the Ctrl key and then, while holding down the Ctrl key, press the x key ~ or $HOME Your home directory. You can always get to your home directory by typing `cd'. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.3 Notation Notation Meaning ======== ======= TextName placeholder; replace with appropriate text placeholder; replace with appropriate text without the angle brackets `text' text you type but without the quotes "text" text you type including the double quotes 'text' text you type including the single quotes [Key] press the key, e.g., [Space], [Enter], or [Tab] ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 1.0 Mail Folder Strategies It is a good idea to come up with a system for naming and reading your mail folders. With a good system, you will have an easier time managing the hundreds (or thousands!) of messages you will receive. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 1.1 Naming Incoming Mail Folders For my incoming mail folders I use names that start with `IN'. For example, I put mail sent to the procmail mailing list into a folder named IN.procmail. This way when all my folders are listed alphabetically the incoming folders are together and near the top. They are near the top because Unix is case sensitive and upper case letters come before lower case letters in an ascii sort. Of course, you can use any names you like for your mail folders! ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 1.2 Reading Incoming Mail Folders Here are some instructions for opening a mail folder that's in the default folder directory for some mailers and newsreaders. Default Folder Reader Directory Command line command From within reader ====== ============== ==================== ================== elm ~/Mail elm -f =folder c =folder pine ~/mail pine -if folder G folder mail ~/mail mail -f /path/folder nn ~/News nn +folder G +folder (Please send me information for other mailers and newsreaders.) Pine has an incoming-folder variable which you can use to list your incoming folders in a separate section of your folder list (to view your folder list in Pine, type `L'). Setting this variable also allows you to use the Tab key to step through all new messages in all your incoming folders. For more information see the question "How can I filter messages into different incoming folders?" in the Pine FAQ: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/QandA/FAQs.html#xtocid178164 IMPORTANT NOTE ============== If you are going to be editing your incoming mail folder, e.g., deleting messages, then your filtering program and your folder reader should use locking schemes that work together. Otherwise, if mail is delivered at the same time that you are deleting a message your folder may be corrupted. To learn more about locking see the question "What is folder locking and how does it work?" in the Pine FAQ. This is useful to read even if you don't use Pine as your mailer. http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/QandA/sysadmins.html#xtocid7145 Most mailers, such as pine and elm, use lock a file named `folder.lock' to lock the folder named `folder'. Note that nn does not lock folders so you probably don't want to use nn to delete messages in a folder that is receiving incoming messages. (Please send me info about locking in other mailers and newsreaders.) For more information about specific mailers and newsreaders, see the relevant documentation, such as man pages and Web pages. Some pointers to documentation are listed in section 5.0. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.0 Procmail Procmail is a powerful mail processor that can be used to process your mail messages either as they arrive or after they are in a mail folder. To find out how to process an existing mail folder see the NOTES section of the procmail(1) man page. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.1 Setting Up Procmail To set up and test procmail, follow the ten steps given in sections 2.1.1 through 2.1.4 below. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.1.1 Is Procmail on Your System? 1] To find out if procmail is on your system and what the full path to it is, type one of the following commands: Shell Command ===== ======= csh which procmail sh or ksh type procmail various whereis procmail various where procmail Make a note of the full path to procmail because this is needed in step 5b below. You can find out the version by typing: procmail -v The latest released version, as of 15 April 1995, is 3.10. Version 3.11 should be out soon. If your system doesn't have procmail or doesn't have the latest version, you may want to ask your system administrator to install it. The procmail package of tools is at: ftp://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz If your sys admin isn't able to do this, use a different mail processor like mailagent (described in section 3 of this FAQ) or filter (described in section 4). ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.1.2 Setting Up Procmail for Testing 2a] Create ~/.procmailrc. cd pico .procmailrc NOTE: Throughout this article I use pico for editing files. Replace `pico' with your editor. 2b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.procmailrc. Note that lines that begin with # are comments and are ignored by procmail. #Set on when debugging VERBOSE=off #Replace `mail' with your mail directory (Pine uses mail, Elm uses Mail) MAILDIR=$HOME/mail #Directory for storing procmail log and rc files PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.testing INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.maillists 3] Create the directory where you will store your procmail log and rc files (this is $PMDIR that you set above). cd mkdir .procmail 4a] Create an rc (run commands) file for testing: cd .procmail pico rc.testing 4b] Enter the following in ~/.procmail/rc.testing: :0: * ^Subject:.*test IN.testing Note that the first line contains a zero (0), not the letter "oh". For now, don't worry about the meaning of this recipe. It is explained in 2.3 "Explanation of Test Recipe." 5a] Create a ~/.forward file by typing the following. (Pico's -w flag tells pico not to auto wrap lines.) cd pico -w .forward 5b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.forward: "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/local/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #nancym" == IMPORTANT NOTES == * Make sure you include all the quotes, both double (") and single ('). * The vertical bar (|) is a pipe. * Replace /usr/local/bin with the correct path for procmail (see step 1). * Replace `nancym' with your userid. You need to put your userid in your .forward so that it will be different than any other .forward file on your system. * Do NOT use ~ or environment variables, like $HOME, in your .forward file. If procmail resides below your home directory write out the *full* path. 5c] On many systems you need to make your .forward world readable and your home directory world searchable in order for the mail transport agent to "see" it. To do this type: cd chmod 644 .forward chmod a+x . ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.1.3 Testing 6] Send yourself two test messages: one with `test' in the subject and one without `test' in the subject. 7] Start your mailer (pine, elm, etc.) and check that the messages were delivered correctly. The one with `test' in the subject should be in the folder $MAILDIR/IN.testing and the one without `test' in the subject should be in your inbox. If these were not delivered correctly, see section 2.2 on "Troubleshooting Procmail" section below. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.1.4 Setting Up Procmail to Filter Mailing List Messages 8a] Once you have successfully tested procmail in steps 6 and 7, create rc.maillists for filtering incoming mailing-list messages into mail folders. cd cd .procmail pico rc.maillists 8b] In rc.maillists, create a recipe, like the two example recipes below, for each of your mailing lists. :0: * ^TOwww-talk IN.www-talk :0: * ^TOprocmail IN.procmail The first recipe filters the www-talk mailing list and the second recipe filters the procmail mailing lists. The meaning of the first recipe is as follows: Notation Meaning ======== ======= :0 Begin a recipe : Use a lock file * Begin a condition ^TO Match ``To:'' ``Cc:'' or other synonyms for To at the beginning of a line, followed by any or no characters, followed by.... www-talk ``www-talk'' IN.www-talk If successful match, put in folder $MAILDIR/IN.www-talk IMPORTANT NOTES =============== * ^TO is not a normal regular expression; it is a special procmail expression that is designed to catch any destination specification. For details, see the MISCELLANEOUS section of the procmailrc(5) man pages. * Do not put a space between the caret (^) and the word `TO' in `^TO'. * Do not put a space between the `^TO' and the text that you are matching on; it must be `^TOtext'. * Both letters in `TO' must be capitalized. 9] Repeat steps 6 and 7 to make sure that things are still working. 10] Comment out the rc.testing line in you .procmailrc file so that it looks like this: VERBOSE=off MAILDIR=$HOME/mail PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log # INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.testing INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.maillists NOTE: Leaving the rc.testing line in your .procmailrc file is useful for future testing. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.2 Troubleshooting Procmail If messages are not delivered correctly, here are steps you can use to try to solve the problem. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.2.1 General Strategies 1] Look at your $LOGFILE (~/.procmail/log) to see if you can determine what the problem is. 2] Check these three files for typos: ~/.forward ~/.procmailrc ~/.procmail/rc.testing 3] Check the file and directory permissions of your .forward (set in 5c in "Setting up Procmail for Testing" above). Type... In order to... ------- -------------- cd Go to your home directory. ls -l .forward Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r-- ls -ld . Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each (i.e., drwx--x--x, drwxr-xr-x, drwxr-x--x, drwx--xr-x are each acceptable.) 4] If the above three steps do not locate the problem edit your ~/.procmailrc so that it contains: VERBOSE=on Test procmail by following steps 6 and 7 again. Look at your $LOGFILE (which will contain verbose messages) to see if you can now determine what the problem is. If you are still having problems see the next section on "Alternate .forward Files." After you get procmail to work, you probably will want to set VERBOSE back to off. ------------------------------ From: "Stephen R. van den Berg" Subject: 2.2.2 Alternate .forward files If the .forward template in 5b above doesn't work the following alternatives might be helpful: In a perfect world: "|exec /usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym" In an almost perfect world: "|exec /usr/local/bin/procmail USER=nancym" In another world: "|IFS=' ';exec /usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym" In a different world: "|IFS=' ';exec /usr/local/bin/procmail USER=nancym" In a smrsh world: "|/usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym" These formats can be tried in different combinations, the leading "| can be tried as |" instead, or vice versa. NOTE ==== If your system uses procmail as its local delivery agent, you do not need a .forward file; simply having a .procmailrc files suffices. To find out if procmail is the local delivery agent, ask your system administrator. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.3 Explanation of Test Recipe The recipe you used for testing is: :0: * ^Subject:.*test IN.testing The meaning of this recipe is: Notation Meaning ======== ======= :0 Begin a recipe : Use a lock file * Begin a condition ^ Match the beginning of a line followed by.... Subject: ``Subject:'' followed by.... . any character (.) followed by.... * 0 or more of preceding character (any character in this case) followed by.... test ``test'' IN.testing If successful match, put in folder $MAILDIR/IN.testing ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.4 Tracking Your Incoming Mail You can use mailstat, a useful script that is part of the procmail package, to check your procmail log file. Check to see if it is on your system by typing either `which mailstat' or `type mailstat'. If it's on your system type: mailstat $HOME/.procmail/log This displays a concise version of your log file and moves your log file to log.old. You may want to put the above line in your .login so that each time you log in you will see a listing of how many messages you've received since the last time you ran mailstat, and what folders these messages were delivered to. You can get a mailstat listing of log.old by using the -o flag: mailstat -o $HOME/.procmail/log If mailstat is not on your system ask your system administrator to install it. The script is located with all the other procmail tools (see 2.1.1 above for the ftp location). ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.5 Procmail References Web Page: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/internet/procmail/ http://www.best.com/~ii/internet/procmail/ (mirror of above URL) Man Pages: procmail(1) - autonomous mail processor procmailrc(5) - procmail rc file procmailex(5) - procmail rc file examples procmailsc(5) - procmail weighted scoring techique egrep(1) - search file for regular expression (procmail uses egrep-style regular exprssions along with some of its own expressions like ^TO) formail(1) - mail reformatter sendmail(8) - send mail over the internet Newsgroup: comp.mail.misc Mailing List: procmail@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subscribe to the procmail mailing list by sending mail: To: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: subscribe Procmail Archives: Get a list of files available at the procmail mail server by sending mail: To: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: archive ls Get Best of the Procmail mailing list by sending mail (you'll need gzip and a MIME-decoder to unpack it): To: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: archive get best_of_procmail_list* ------------------------------ From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.0 Mailagent Mailagent is a powerful mail processing package that can be used to process your mail messages, either at arrival time via a .forward hook or later on while they are already saved in a mail folder. Mailagent is written in Perl and hence has all the advantages of being interpreted, i.e. it is easy to enhance dynamically and to customize. This version of the FAQ describes the basics of setting up mailagent to process incoming mail messages from within a .forward. To find out about the more advanced features of mailagent, please refer to the mailagent(1) manual page. ------------------------------ From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.1 Setting Up Mailagent 1] First, make sure mailagent is available on your system. The easiest way to do this is to run: mailagent -V which will print the mailagent version if it is available, or the shell will issue an error message "mailagent: not found" or something like it. 2a] Now you need to understand the MTA (Mail Transport Agent, the program that delivers the mail; usually, sendmail) will NOT deliver to mailagent directly, rather to an intermediate (small) filter program. Two versions are available: shell or C -- refer to the mailagent(1) manpage to choose, but I recommend you use the C version first, and move to the shell version if you can't run a binary from your .forward file. 2b] Locate the filter program (it will be filter or filter.sh depending on whether you choose the C or the shell version respectively) under some directory like /usr/local/lib/mailagent. From now on, we'll assume we use the C filter and that it is located under /usr/local/lib/mailagent. 3] Copy the file /usr/local/lib/mailagent/mailagent.cf as ~/.mailagent and edit it to configure your system correctly. You will see two distinct sections in that file and you need to set-up properly the first one, the "Configuration section". If you have a version of mailagent that is recent enough (at least 3.0 PL32) then you can create an initial configuration very easily and quickly by running the following command: mailagent -I which will set-up an almost ready-to-use ~/.mailagent file. All you need to do at this point is go through its configuration section to make sure mailagent made the right choices... The minimal set of variables that MUST be correctly set (i.e. for which you cannot rely on the default set in the file) are (# introduces comment in a shell-like manner, which run up to the end of the line): home: # Your HOME directory, as reported by "echo $HOME", usually. path: # Path to be used to locate mailagent and perl, at least. p_xxx: # Path to be appended to "path" above when running on machine "xxx". user: # Your login name. name: # Your name. level: # Logging level. I recommend you raise it to 20 for testing. The mail folder directory is ~/Mail by default, but it can be changed only from within your rule file by putting maildir = ~/mail; at its top, for instance, to make it ~/mail. The rule file is defined as the "rules" parameter, and is set to ~/.rules by default. 4] Ensure the directories configured in your ~/.mailagent under "logdir" and "spool" and "queue" do exist. If you use the standard setting, this requires the following commands: cd mkdir var cd var mkdir log mailagent cd mailagent mkdir queue 5a] Create a rule file (named ~/.rules by default) for testing: cd vi .rules 5b] Enter the following in ~/.rules Subject: /test/ { SAVE testing }; The meaning of that rule should be pretty obvious: If we receive a mail whose subject line contains the word "test", then we save that mail in a folder named "testing", under the default folder directory (~/Mail). 5c] Create a ~/.forward file as follows: "|exec /usr/local/lib/mailagent/filter >> /export/home/ram/.bak 2>&1" The meaning of that line is the following: every mail should be piped (hence the leading "|" character) onto the filter program, and any output from that program (i.e. errors) are appended to some file in your home directory, with stderr following stdout (2>&1) in traditional sh syntax. == IMPORTANT NOTES == * Your .forward is always processed by sh, regardless of your login shell. * Replace /export/home/ram with your proper login directory full path. That's a part that makes your .forward unique (for zealous optimizing sendmail that are dead wrong about optimizing!) and that can save you a lot of trouble if anything goes wrong! Just look at your ~/.bak! * Replace /usr/local/lib/mailagent/filter with the proper filter path on your machine. 5d] Note that on many systems, you need to ensure your .forward will be readable by everybody, and that your home directory has the "x" bit set for everybody (i.e. can be part of a lookup path) so that sendmail can see and parse your .forward file. To ensure this, type: cd chmod a+r .forward chmod a+x . 6] Send yourself two test messages: one with "test" in the subject, and one without "test" in the subject. 7a] Checkout your ~/.bak file: it should be empty! 7b] Checkout your ~/var/log/agentlog file to see what really happened to your messages. Watch out for any ERROR or WARNING logs. This assumes you have left at least the default logging level (9) in the ~/.mailagent file (the "level" variable). But for testing, that level should be raised to 20 to help you diagnose what's going on. 7c] Look out in ~/Mail/testing. You should find there the message whose Subject line contained the word "test". Then make sure the other message has been delivered to your regular mailbox. (Since no match occurred in your rule file, the mail is left in your mailbox by default). 7d] TROUBLESHOOTING * If your mail was not properly delivered, please make sure your rule file and configuration file are correct by issuing the following command: mailagent -d * If the previous command does not output the single rule you should have put in ~/.rules, then please make sure step 3 and 4 above were correctly performed (those being the crucial steps ensuring a proper configuration). * Check the ~/.bak file for error messages. * Check for typos in any of these files: ~/.forward ~/.mailagent ~/.rules * Check the file and directory permissions of your .forward (set in step 5c above). Type... In order to... ------- -------------- cd Go to your home directory. ls -l .forward Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r-- ls -ld . Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each (i.e., drwx--x--x, drwxr-xr-x, drwxr-x--x, drwx--xr-x). * If none of the previous hints helped you identify problem, and you can't figure it out from the output in ~/.bak or in the ~/var/log/agentlog file (or whatever file you have configured for logging within your ~/.mailagent file, variables "log" and "logdir"), then make sure your mail is not waiting in the MTA's queue: this might be the case if the agentlog file is empty. If you are using sendmail as MTA, you can run: /usr/lib/sendmail -bp to print out the queue. * As a last resort, please look at the mailagent(1) manual page under the section "Testing Your Installation" for more tips and things to look at. 8] Once you have successfully tested mailagent in steps 6 and 7 above, you're on! Mailagent is ready to process your mail. All you have to do is extend the ~/.rules file to add more rules. For instance: To Cc: www-talk { SAVE www-talk }; To Cc: agent-users { SAVE agent-users }; Those two rules filter the two mailing lists www-talk and agent-users into their respective folders, whether the mailing list address appear in the To OR Cc header. Since rules are not qualified as a pattern match (contrary to our test above), they match on logins in the address, i.e. they will match things like www-talk@chip.com or chip!www-talk, or a plain simple www-talk if this is a local alias. (This implicit matching on logins works only for some selectors like To, Cc or From which are know to contain addresses). If you wish to sort on patterns appearing in the Subject of messages for instance, then you must use a pattern matching syntax, as in: Subject: /star trek/ { SAVE star-trek; }; to save in a folder "star-trek" all the messages whose subject contains the words "star trek". Case matters, but keep on reading... 9] As an advanced topic, since mailagent is written in Perl, you have all the power of Perl's regular expressions at your disposal. Which means you can write things like this: To Cc: agent-users { REJECT AGENT }; Subject: /^\w*subscribe/i { DELETE }; * { UNIQUE -a; SAVE agent }; The second lines makes use of that perl extended regular expression syntax: \w matches an alphanumeric character plus "_", while the trailing "i" option requests a case-insensitive match. You also note you have a real automaton at your disposal. You can enter a special state (AGENT in our example) and continue parsing by only scanning for rules tagged by this mode. The first match stops the automaton, unless you REJECT to continue processing. When not restricted by a mode list, a rule is always taken into account. For example, assuming the automaton is in the state "NEWS", it will not consider rules tagged , as in the above example. The automaton begins in mode "INITIAL". The "UNIQUE -a" action followed by a SAVE ensures only one copy per Message-ID will ever end-up in your agent folder -- no duplicates! Also note you can have more than one action per rule, and that the last one uses '*' to match anything, i.e. its action part between {} will always be executed in AGENT mode, when reached by the automaton. Also, since in Perl regular expression syntax, \b matches a word-boundary and \s any space or tab character, we can write our Star Trek message sorting into a much more robust form: Subject: /\bstar\s+trek\b/i { SAVE star-trek; }; (\s+ matches one or more white spaces, while \s* would match zero or more, see the Perl manual page for a complete description of regular expressions.) which will match on various subject strings like "Last Star Trek season" or "I am addicted to Star trek", but not on "Tristar treks" -- whatever that means :-) All in all, the filtering automaton syntax is pretty much intuitive and easy to read. You have to learn which actions are possible and what they mean, naturally. ------------------------------ From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail If you are curious about what mailagent does to your mail, you have two options: * Look at your "agentlog" file, with a log level set to 9. * Get a summary of all the actions performed by running: mailagent -summary This last option is only possible if you have initialized the statistics gathering process by creating a ~/var/mailagent/mailagent.st file (under the default setting from ~/.mailagent). You will get a clear picture of your processing, by seeing which rule match, how often, in which state, etc... You will also know how many times you SAVE or DELETE messages for instance. Actually, mailagent statistics are triggered by a simple mailagent -s command, the letters given after in the {u,m,a,r,y} set being options that alter the output given by the command. * Look at the ~/.bak occasionally to make sure no error is pending... ------------------------------ From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.3 How Safe Mailagent Processing Is? As soon as the filter program has taken a hold on your message, you can rest assured the mail will get filtered one way or the other. If filter can't queue your mail, it will exit with an exit status of 75, that status being recognized by "sendmail" as a "deliver later on" hint, in which case the mail message will safely wait in sendmail's queue. So if filter gets your message, it immediately forks and exits with a 0 status for sendmail, letting it know its work is finished and releasing it to save resources. It then calls mailagent on the queued message (in mailagent's private queue) to actually process the message. Only after successful processing will mailagent delete the queued message. Hence, under an heavily loaded system, the worst that could happen would be a duplicate processing of a message, or a bounce back when sendmail cannot fork and exec the filter program from your .forward. Under catastrophic conditions, filter or mailagent will simply dump the message on stdout, for ~/.bak to catch, preceded by the reason why processing was aborted. ------------------------------ From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.4 Locking Under Mailagent By default, mailagent proceeds with a fixed locking scheme (.lock extension) plus flock() if asked to do so at Configure time. However, mailagent provides support for NFS-secure locks and also can use non-standard locking procedures, configurable from within ~/.mailagent (variables "nfslock" and "mboxlock"). However, it cannot support locking on a rule basis (yet!). The author is willing to raise the priority of that item if one comes up with a legitimate need for that feature that could not be worked-around by a PERL escape. ;-) ------------------------------ From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.5 Folder Types Supported Mailagent can deliver mail to plain UNIX folders (also known as "mbox format"), to MMDF folders, to MH folders (with unseen sequence update built-in and using locks, not like rcvstore which does not!) or to directories (ala MH, but without unseen sequence support and with alternate naming possible). It also supports delivery to folders with the "x" bit set, in which case mailagent interprets those as being hooks. It either pipes the message to the "program" or further interprets the hook to do more processing. See the manual page mailagent(1) under the section "MAIL HOOKS" for more details. ------------------------------ From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.6 Mailagent References Man Pages mailagent(1) - reference manual page (about 47 pages troff'ed). perl(1) - reference manual for Perl sendmail(8) - send mail over the Internet Examples: agent/examples/rules - a commented rule file sample, from the distribution source tree. Newsgroup: comp.mail.misc Mailing List: agent-users@foretune.co.jp Subscribe to the list by sending mail: To: majordomo@foretune.co.jp subscribe agent-users Mailagent archives: ftp://ftp.foretune.co.jp/pub/network/mail/mailagent EMAIL: Send mail to the author's mailagent: To: ram@hptnos02.grenoble.hp.com Subject: Command @SH maildist - mailagent - ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 4.0 Filter Filter is part of the Elm package of tools. Note that you can use filter to filter your incoming mail even if you are not using Elm to read your mail. IMPORTANT NOTE ============== If your system has both procmail and filter installed then you should use procmail which is *much* more robust and powerful than filter. This recommendation is almost universal; even the developers of Elm and Filter recommend procmail over filter. IT IS POSSIBLE TO LOSE MAIL MESSAGES WHEN USING FILTER; this is rare but it has happened. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 4.1 Setting up Filter Followup-To: comp.mail.elm 1] Find out if filter is on your system and what the full path to it is. If you are using the C shell (csh) type: which filter Or, if you are using the Korn shell (ksh) or the Bourne shell (sh) type: type filter If neither ``which'' nor ``type'' are on your system try ``where'' and ``whereis''. If your system doesn't have filter ask your system administrator to install it; or even better ask her to install procmail. 2] Note the full path of your home directory by typing: cd pwd 3a] Create ~/.elm/filter-rules. (Note that throughout this article I use pico for editing files. Replace ``pico'' with your editor.) cd mkdir .elm cd .elm pico filter-rules 3b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.elm/filter-rules if (subject contains "test") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.testing" Replace /j/nancym with your home directory path (see step 2). Replace /Mail with the name of the directory where your mail folders are stored. Pine and Berkeley Mail use /mail (lower case m) and Elm uses /Mail (upper case M). 4] To see what the filter rule will do type the following at your Unix prompt: filter -r 5a] Create a ~/.forward file by typing the following. (Pico's -w flag tells pico not to auto wrap lines.) cd pico -w .forward 5b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.forward: "|/usr/local/bin/filter -o /j/nancym/.elm/filter-errors" == IMPORTANT NOTES == * Make sure you include the quotes ("). * The vertical bar (|) is a pipe. * Replace /usr/local/bin with the correct path for filter (see step 1). * Replace /j/nancym with your home directory (see step 2). * Do NOT expect environment variables, like $HOME, to work in your .forward file. * Do NOT expect ~ to mean your home directory in the .forward file. 5c] Note that on many systems you need to make your .forward is world readable and your home directory world searchable in order for the mail transport agent to "see" it. To do this type: cd chmod 644 .forward chmod a+x . 6] Send yourself two test messages: one with ``test'' in the subject and one without ``test'' in the subject. 7a] Start your mailer (pine, elm, etc.) and check that the messages were delivered correctly. The one with ``test'' in the subject should be in the folder IN.testing and the one without ``test'' in the subject should be in your inbox. If these were delivered correctly go on to step 8. 7b] TROUBLESHOOTING * If the two messages were not delivered correctly look at your ~/.elm/filter-errors to see if you can determine what the problem is. * Check these two files for typos: ~/.forward ~/.elm/filter-rules * Check the file and directory permissions of your .forward (set in 5c above). Type... In order to... ------- -------------- cd Go to your home directory. ls -l .forward Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r-- ls -ld . Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each (i.e., drwx--x--x, drwxr-xr-x, drwxr-x--x, drwx--xr-x). * If none of these turn up the problem edit your ~/.forward so that filter will be verbose with it's output (use the -vo flag). "|/usr/local/bin/filter -vo /j/nancym/.elm/filter-errors" And repeat steps 6 and 7. After you get filter to work you will probably want to change the ``-vo'' flag back to ``-o''. 8] After you have successfully tested filter in steps 6 and 7, edit ~/.elm/filter-rules so that it contains a modified version of the following: # if (subject contains "test") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.testing" if (to contains "www-talk") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.www-talk" if (to contains "hopos-l") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.hopos" Replace /j/nancym with your home directory path and /Mail with the name of your mail directory. Replace the mailing list string (e.g., "www-talk") and the name of the mail folder (e.g., IN.www-talk) with text for your mailing lists. Note that ``to contains...'' means either the To or Cc header contains... Rather than deleting the test line, it's useful to just turn it into a comment (by preceding it with #) so that you can easily use it for future testing. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 4.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail Followup-To: comp.mail.elm You can get a short summary of filter's activity by typing: filter -s For a longer summary type: filter -S Or you can look at the log file itself, ~/.elm/filterlog. You should regularly look at ~/.elm/filter-errors to make sure things are working. You can automatically check filter-errors each time you log in by putting the following in your .login: tail ~/.elm/filter-errors Also you probably want to regularly delete filterlog and filter-errors so they don't fill up your disk space. To get a summary of the filter log and clear it type: filter -cs ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 4.3 Filter References Followup-To: comp.mail.elm Web Pages: http://www.myxa.com/elm.html http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/elm.filter.html Man Pages: filter(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 5.0 Mailer and Newsreader References PINE ==== Web Pages: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ http://www.jazzie.com/ii/internet/pine/ http://www.best.com/~ii/internet/pine/ (mirror of above URL) Man Pages: pine(1), pico(1), pilot(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.pine (linked to Pine mailing list) Mailing List: pine-info@cac.washington.edu (linked to Pine newsgroup) Subscribe to the pine-info mailing list by sending mail to: majordomo@cac.washington.edu With... subscribe pine-info in the body of the message. ELM === Web Pages: http://www.myxa.com/elm.html http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ Man Pages: elm(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm Emacs Mail Mode =============== Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help and comp.emacs MH == Man Pages: mh(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.mh MAIL ==== Man Pages: mail(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.misc NN == Web Pages: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/internet/nn/ http://www.best.com/~ii/internet/nn/ (mirror of above URL) Man Pages: nn(1) Newsgroup: news.software.nn Please send me pointers to other mailer and newsreader references and let me know what newsreaders can read mail folders. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 6.0 Contributors This FAQ, like many others, is a collaborative effort. I learned a lot of the information in newsgroups and mailing lists, especially: comp.mail.* procmail mailing list Also, lots of people have mailed me information and I've tried to acknowledge them below. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 6.1 Acknowledgements Thanks to these people who sent suggestions: David L. Miller Cookie Monster Jim Showalter David W. Tamkin Rick Troxel Stephen R. van den Berg Syd Weinstein Special thanks to: Thomas A. Fine for setting up and maintaining the hypertext archive of FAQs. Congratulations to him for winning O'Reilly and Associates' "The Best of the Net" award! Please let me know if I've left you, or anyone else, out of this list. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 6.2 Contributing to this FAQ If you have any corrections, suggestions, or new digest items to contribute to this FAQ please send them to faq-editor@ii.com. If your reader understands the following URL, you can use it to send me mail: mailto:faq-editor@ii.com. Things I'm especially interested in are: * a comparison of mail filtering tools * what newsreaders can read mail folders * instructions for opening a specific folder in various readers * lock scheme and files used by various readers * other Unix filtering tools, like deliver * filtering tools for other operating systems like the Mac and DOS/Windows ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 7.0 Copyright Notice This FAQ is Copyright (c) 1994-96 Nancy McGough, except sections 2.2.2 and 3.0 through 3.6 which are Copyright (c) 1994-96 by the authors named in those sections. No portion of this work may be sold or put to commercial use without express written consent of the authors. This restriction covers publication in any form, or distribution by any method, which permits this work to be visually perceived, either directly or with the aid of any machine or device. Permission is granted to republish or redistribute this article in its entirety for noncommercial use if this copyright notice is not removed or altered. For more information, see Infinite Ink's Legal Notice, which is available at: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/legalese/ http://www.best.com/~ii/legalese/ (mirror of above URL) End of Filtering Mail FAQ Digest ******************************** -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 14:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16617; Sat, 5 Oct 96 14:16:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id OAA01010 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 14:13:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alaska.net (calvino.alaska.net [206.149.65.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA01005 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 14:13:10 -0700 Received: from hmmm.alaska.net by alaska.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26915; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 13:13:06 -0800 Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 17:11:18 +0000 () From: hmmm To: Pine Developers Subject: News Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i'm very happy now that i got Pine 3.95 (bsd) mail going with a popclient - my Isp isn't up to playing around with Imapd. so now - my question is - what can i do about Newsgroups? i've tried a zillion different config options, but i can't get my nntp.isp.net to work very well with pine. i can't get a NEWSRC file set up on my PC, after 3 hours it pops up on my screen, but i can't save it. i tried many differnt news-collection paths. i think i need a popclient for nntp or something ... i don't know. ??? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ friends don't let friends do DOS ... http://www.alaska.net/~hmmm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 18:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15914; Sat, 5 Oct 96 18:07:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id SAA25972 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 18:03:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA25967 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 18:03:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9hYg-00038jC; Sat, 5 Oct 96 17:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ekelly@world.std.com (Emily H Kelly) Subject: "Move read messages?" prompt Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 00:42:39 GMT I've pored over all the Pine documentation I could find and skimmed both the current newsspool and the mailing list archives, looking for an answer to the question I'm about to ask. If it's an exasperatingly common one, I apologize for wasting your time. Whenever I quit Pine with messages still in my inbox, I receive the prompt asking, "Move messages to "read-messages"?" Now I know how to configure Pine to move the messages without prompting; I also know how to configure Pine to move the messages to the folder of my choice rather than the default. What I haven't been able to figure out is how to configure Pine either to quit prompting me altogether, or to offer the prompt with a default reply "no" (so I could just through it without affecting my mail). I've been a contented Pine 3.91 (Unix) user, and I just moved to a new shell account which has 3.93. There's nothing in my provider's pine.conf file that would explain it, and they don't have a pine.conf.fixed. I understand they might have a vested interest in my keeping my mail in my allotted disk space rather than their mailspool, but as far as I can tell they're not doing this. Is there any simple way to accomplish what I'm looking for? Emily -- Emily Harrison Kelly "If cats are going to inherit the Earth, this will ekelly@world.std.com be why." --Ian York on feline puking methodology From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 18:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19925; Sat, 5 Oct 96 18:27:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id SAA03992 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 18:23:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA03987 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 18:23:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9hq3-00038jC; Sat, 5 Oct 96 18:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kathleen Subject: Re: UNIX to PC Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 16:13:01 -0700 Message-Id: <3256EB7D.677D@telis.org> References: <5317ev$5ih@rain.psg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am also trying to learn how to download my mail from PINE mail. If I click on export, it does not allow me to save it to my hard drive. If I go to setup, config, and enter, local instead of remote, it doesn't work. The host computer (UNIX) only sees my DOS computer as an extension of itself. I am trying to help a blind man who uses a braille reader and needs DOS. Our ISP only has windows support, although we can log in with DOS (Procomm). I looked in UNIX for Dummies but I still don't get it. Can someone tell me what to type in the config setup to allow downloading/saving to my own computer? Kathleen John Mellon wrote: > > Is there any simple way to transfer all of the files from an INTEL based > UNIX operating system to a DOS/Windows operating system? I know nothing > about UNIX but I need to access the files on a UNIX machine. Any help > or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. > > John Mellon From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 20:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16728; Sat, 5 Oct 96 20:19:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id UAA05343 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 20:15:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA05338 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 20:15:37 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 6 Oct 96 11:20:55 +0800 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 11:12:07 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: Emily H Kelly Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "Move read messages?" prompt In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Emily H Kelly wrote: > to the question I'm about to ask. If it's an exasperatingly common one, I > apologize for wasting your time. Well, at least you tried, right? > Is there any simple way to accomplish what I'm looking for? I'd have to check back and find if 3.93 had these features. If 3.93 doesn't have these then you will find yourself needing to upgrade to 3.95. (I'm fairly certain they were in 3.93...) Anyway, looking at the pine config/setup menu we find: OPTION: Read-Message-Folder By virtue of specifying a folder name here, Pine will be configured to save all messages which you have read during a session into the designated "read messages" folder. This allows you to more easily distinguish between your really new email (in your INBOX) and those which you have already read. Depending on how you define the "auto-move-read-messages" setting in the "feature-list", you may or may not be asked when you quit Pine if you want read messages to be moved to this folder. In either case, moving the messages means they will be deleted from your INBOX. If this is not a path name, it will be in the default collection for saves. Any valid folder specification, local or remote (via IMAP), is allowed. There is no default for the name of the read message folder. Then we also find: FEATURE: auto-move-read-msgs This feature controls an aspect of Pine's behavior upon quitting. If set, and the "read-message-folder" variable is also set, then Pine will automatically transfer all read messages to the designated folder and mark them as deleted in the INBOX. Messages in the INBOX marked with an "N" (meaning New, or unseen) are not affected. FYI, I have both of these unset and never get a prompt. This was one of the options you indicated would be OK, right? Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 20:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20536; Sat, 5 Oct 96 20:47:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id UAA27948 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 20:45:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA27943 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 20:45:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9k4H-00038jC; Sat, 5 Oct 96 20:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ant_sue@nmia.com Subject: distribution lists Date: 29 Sep 1996 02:24:59 GMT Message-Id: <52kmlr$kn2@hume.nmia.com> I have been using Pine 3.91 for awhile but I am not very familiar with the use of the address book. I've figured out how to make a distribution list within ADDRESS BOOK, and to use the name of the distribution list in COMPOSE MESSAGE to send a message to all within the list. But ... (1) is there a way to send to (all members within) a distribution list without Pine printing out all of the member names into the header area? (I'd rather not have everyone in the group know who is in the group) I have seen this work for some mail tools on VMS systems ... I am currently using a UNIX system ... and Pine? (2) if you have a file in your directory that is a listing of e-mail addresses, is there a way to tell pine to use that (file) without having to enter all those addresses into an ADDRESS BOOK distribution list? TIA Sue Foltz -- ************************************************************************ * By the way, are you PAYING MORE THAN YOU HAVE TO on LONG DISTANCE? * * * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 23:11:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20131; Sat, 5 Oct 96 23:11:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id XAA07126 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 23:09:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA07121 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 23:09:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9mKg-00038jC; Sat, 5 Oct 96 23:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: Broadcasting emails Date: 3 Oct 1996 16:10:19 GMT Message-Id: <530ohb$ooh@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: <52ipts$f2o@cronkite.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <52ipts$f2o@cronkite.cisco.com>, akr@cisco.com (Abhay Roy) writes: > Zhenghao Yeh (yeh@netcom.com) wrote: >: Hi! Expert, >: >: How can I send broadcasting emails? I have a list of my friends, I want >: to send the same email to all of them with one address on each mail >: header. What I mean is that there shouldn't be all the addresses in the >: header? Can pine do that? Thanks. > > Not only pine, but all the mailers I know so far, CAN'T do this. Sorry to burst the bubble! Pine 3.95 can do it. I am not sure about other versions except 3.91 cannot do it. First, create a list/group in the address book. E.g., I created a group, vol, for my volunteers. Second, in Pine, do a "c" to start the composing page. While the cursor is still in one of the header lines, do a "^R" to get the "rich header" mode. Skip the "To:" line. Go to the "Lcc:" line and enter the list/ group name (e.g. vol, see above). After this is entered, the "To:" line will be automatically filled by Pine. Pine 3.91 does not have "Lcc:" line in rich header mode, so you may not be able to do this trick. Third, the rest of mail composing is done normally. Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu for my PGP pub. key= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 03:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19954; Sun, 6 Oct 96 03:22:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id DAA02088 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 03:20:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from neuron.ato.org.tr ([195.142.130.66]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA02083 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 03:20:03 -0700 Received: from neuron.ato.org.tr (neuron.ato.org.tr [195.142.130.66]) by neuron.ato.org.tr (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA09602; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 13:20:04 +0200 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 13:20:04 +0200 (EET) From: "M.Nuri Arda" To: Pine-Info Cc: "M.Nuri ARDA" Subject: Help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Sir, I have just been received your Pine 3.95. tar. z programm, but I am not able to apply my programs in use as Comit, as Hyperterminal and so on. Is it possible to help me for solving this problem. Thanks. M.Nuri ARDA,MD. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 04:21:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10649; Sun, 6 Oct 96 04:21:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id EAA02842 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 04:19:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA02837 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 04:19:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9rBv-00038jC; Sun, 6 Oct 96 04:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brian Barnes Subject: 3.95 vs 3.91 reply-to-all Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 05:21:55 -0500 Message-Id: <32578842.3ECD@uts.cc.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Our system recently upgraded pine (as the title would imply) - now when I "reply to all" pine includes myself in the carbon copy. This is rather annoying, different than 3.91. Is there a way to disable this? Brian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 05:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24667; Sun, 6 Oct 96 05:48:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id FAA11428 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 05:46:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA11423 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 05:46:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9sUL-00038jC; Sun, 6 Oct 96 05:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kathleen Subject: Re: attachment troubles Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 21:13:37 -0700 Message-Id: <325731F1.6221@telis.org> References: <32534D7E.4D28@telis.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed Greshko wrote: > > On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Kathleen wrote: > > > I have already done what you suggested, but I did not have any success, > > probably because I don't know what to put in as the download command > > values; I tried local, and home and my local path, either c:\ or the > > current directory I am using (which is the comm program) I get a message > > saying I cannot use a colon, or it just doesn't work. I thought it was a > > UNIX command I needed, but I looked through UNIX for dummies and couldn't > > find the answer. I guess the question is too basic even for that book :) > > Well, your situation is best handled by your local helpdesk. > I say this since we are not aware of your environment. We don't know > what comm SW you are using and we don't know what protocol you are using. > (xmodem, zmodem, kermit, etc) > > Sorry to leave you hanging in the wind....but if you describe > you enivrionment fully there are plenty of folks on this group with > experience in this area. (Much more so than me...) > > Regards, > > Ed > > -- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C Our provider is Telis, the California State Telemation Project; it is the only provider for our rural mountain area that is not long distance. However, they do not offer any DOS support, only Windows. I have tried, and so have they, but there doesn't seem to be anyone there that understands this problem. When I dial in with Procomm, I choose VT100 or telnet connection. Either one gives us the Lynx or PINE choice and that's all. I see other postings related to this, but I have not been able to find any answers so far here, or at the PINE site in Kansas. Can part of the problem be the version is 3.91? The variables Ed mentioned for upload/download are not available in my config screen. Don't students use their own computers at Universities and run into this problem? Kathleen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 10:28:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27213; Sun, 6 Oct 96 10:28:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id KAA06677 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 10:25:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA06672 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 10:25:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9wuj-00038jC; Sun, 6 Oct 96 10:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: default editor Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:51:11 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, Clary Harridge wrote: > Can someone please suggest how I can set the default editor to jove? > > I have tried combinations of > > # enable-alternate-editor-cmd > enable-alternate-editor-implicitly > editor=/usr/local/bin/jove > > in my .pinerc without success. > > I can get into jove using ^_ but how do I get it to come up automatically? I use an alternate editor (JOE) with Pine 3.94 and have no problems. However, I do have enable-alternate-editor-cmd set as well as the other two. Based on what I read in the help screens, this should really not make a difference, but it certainly doesn't seem to hurt. Also, it is possible for an installation to set defaults that the user cannot override. I don't know that that is your case, but you could look. (Without checking, I think the file is named something like .pine-conf-fixed .) But it doesn't make much sense for an installation to allow a user to invoke an alternate editor by command but not by default. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30365; Sun, 6 Oct 96 15:42:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id PAA10597 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:40:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ucsu.Colorado.EDU [128.138.129.83]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA10591 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:40:47 -0700 Received: from localhost (kanghee@localhost) by ucsu.Colorado.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3/CNS-4.0p) with SMTP id QAA23422 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:40:44 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:40:44 -0600 (MDT) From: LEE KANGHEE To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: chain letter? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi. My name is kanghee Lee from University of Colorado at Boulder and I am just starting using e-mailing. How's the weather up there? The weather of here, Boulder, CO, is very nice. It's like typical fall. Today, I just got a mail that i have attempted sending chain letter. Unfortunatly, I completely have no idea about that. If I had done something illegal, probably I shouldn't have known about that, so I am sending a question that what the chain letter is and the other sfuff related to chain letter. If you reply to my question, I'll be really appreciated. I'll be looking forward your mail. Thank you. University of Colorado Kanghee Lee From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30465; Sun, 6 Oct 96 15:44:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id PAA18555 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:42:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA18550 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:42:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vA1mi-00038lC; Sun, 6 Oct 96 15:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: UNIX to PC Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 17:16:07 -0400 Message-Id: References: <5317ev$5ih@rain.psg.com> <3256EB7D.677D@telis.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3256EB7D.677D@telis.org> On Sat, 5 Oct 1996, Kathleen wrote: > I am also trying to learn how to download my mail from PINE mail. > If I click on export, it does not allow me to save it to my hard drive. > If I go to setup, config, and enter, local instead of remote, it doesn't > work. The host computer (UNIX) only sees my DOS computer as an extension > of itself. [...] > > Can someone tell me what to type in the config setup to allow > downloading/saving to my own computer? One thing you need to be aware of is that, as such, the computer running Un*x and the PC are completely independent machines which happen to be connected to each other with a communications link of some kind and both of which have software programs at eash end of that link which can talk to each other, providing the interfaces to each machine. Now Pine, running on the Un*x machine, knows nothing about your PC. It has never heard about such an animal. However, there are ways for programs on the Un*x box to talk to similar programs on the PC box via the communications interface in order to get a file from Un*x to PC, and fortunately there are ways for Pine to talk to those other programs, thus closing the loop. Unfortunately, it is not always immediately obvious, and depending on the version of Pine, you may well not be able to use the Export command. You did not provide which version of Pine is running on the Un*x machine. That information is very important. I do not recall when the new feature came in, but I know it is present in at least 3.94, which I am using. There is a direct interface between Pine's Export command and a program, such as zmodem, xmodem, or kermit, which can do the real downloading to the PC. Of course, you must have a compatible program running simultantously on the PC. Commonly, it is built in to the PC communications software. If your version is Pine is current, or nearly so, go into Setup and Config and scroll down to the 'download-command' section (or some similar name) and read the online help files. If your version of Pine is older, you can still transmit files directly from Pine. In the configuration, enable the Un*x pipe command. Take this shell script: #!/bin/sh umask 066 trap "rm -f $HOME/tmp/$$download" 0 cat > $HOME/tmp/download.$$$ sz -a $HOME/tmp/download.$$$ rm -f $HOME/tmp/download.$$$ umask 077 and put it in some directory in the PATH. Mark it executable. Then, when you want to download a message from Pine, just enter the pipe symbol (|) and answer the prompt with 'sendz'. (This assumes that zmodem is on the PC and can be automatically invoked. Otherwise you might have to adjust the script some.) Be aware that this script creates a file on the PC with name 'download.nnn' where 'nnn' is the first three digits of the Un*x process number. You might want to shell out to the PC and rename the file if you are going to download several in quick sequence. If this seems a little complicated, well, unfortunately not every single task we sometimes want to do in life is transparently easy. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30330; Sun, 6 Oct 96 16:14:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id QAA10981 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:12:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA10976 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:12:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vA2I8-00038lC; Sun, 6 Oct 96 16:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mike@net-quest.com (Mike Carlson) Subject: How can I filter *existing* email? Date: 3 Oct 1996 01:33:11 -0700 Message-Id: <52vto7$e7q@basecamp1.net-quest.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I know, another filtering question. :( In my defense, I have looked at all the archives and procmail examples I could find before finally asking here. Now with that out of the way...Is there any way to take one huge email box and split it into various folders? I've managed to get procmail going just fine with new mail, but this old stuff just hangs out in one big blob. Also, since the folders already contain new email, is there a way to have it arrange them in the right date order? (Thought I'd ask while I was at it.) Mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30521; Sun, 6 Oct 96 16:41:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id QAA19225 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:38:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA19220 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:38:24 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 7 Oct 96 07:43:39 +0800 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 07:37:08 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko To: LEE KANGHEE Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: chain letter? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, LEE KANGHEE wrote: > My name is kanghee Lee from University of Colorado at Boulder and I am > just starting using e-mailing. > How's the weather up there? The weather here in Taiwan is beautiful this time of year!! > The weather of here, Boulder, CO, is very nice. It's like typical fall. > Today, I just got a mail that i have attempted sending chain letter. > Unfortunatly, I completely have no idea about that. If I had done > something illegal, probably I shouldn't have known about that, so I am > sending a question that what the chain letter is and the other sfuff > related to chain letter. > If you reply to my question, I'll be really appreciated. I'll be looking > forward your mail. Thank you. If you'd like you can send me a copy of what you sent out and I'll let you know what is "wrong" with it. There are two catagories you letter may fall into. One is the "chain-letter" type which proclaims to bring you good luck if you send out copies to 25 of your friends. This seems harmless but many people feel that this can multiply and clog up the network and clutter disk space with "useless email". Then there is the "fast-cash" type. These are the ones which are generally illegal. They are pyramid schemes which promise to make the receipient rich or some such nonsense. (If people stop and think...hey if we "all" do it we'll all be rich!...they would understand how foolish they are to participate.) Of course the only one with a chance of getting "rich" is the originator. Regards, Ed P.S. This message has been brought to you as a public service by the letter "T". ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 18:31:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31234; Sun, 6 Oct 96 18:31:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id SAA12651 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 18:27:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA12646 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 18:27:25 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA27316; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 18:27:23 -0700 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 18:27:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Carl D. Cravens" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Chinese characters? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Be sure to set charset to something other than us-ascii if you want to enter non-ascii characters... -teg On Fri, 4 Oct 1996, Carl D. Cravens wrote: > I recently upgraded our Pine from 3.91 to 3.95... the upgrade when quite > smoothly and happy with the new features. Except that I broke something > for one of our users... with 3.91, he was able to enter Chinese > double-byte characters, but with this version he is not able to. I can't > seem to figure out how to enable this. (3.91 came pre-compiled with > BSD/OS, so I don't know how that one was done.) > > Is this something that Pine itself supports, and can you help me fix it? > > Thanks a lot. > > -- > Carl D. Cravens Technical Support / Junior Administrator > cravens@southwind.net SouthWind Internet Access, Inc. > http://www.southwind.net/ Wichita: 316-263-7963 > Elsewhere: 1-800-525-7963 > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 20:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32588; Sun, 6 Oct 96 20:53:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id UAA22406 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 20:51:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA22398 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 20:51:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vA6cO-00038lC; Sun, 6 Oct 96 20:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ahk@chinet.chinet.com (Adam H. Kerman) Subject: Re: Carriage return in PICO Date: 6 Oct 1996 22:29:22 -0500 Message-Id: <539tei$quh@chinet.chinet.com> References: <5393ui$h1n@news.cyberenet.net> In-Reply-To: <5393ui$h1n@news.cyberenet.net> In article <5393ui$h1n@news.cyberenet.net>, Robert Gonzalez wrote: >Pico doesn't seem to use character 13 for end of line. >When I download a textfile, everything is all run together. >Does anyone know how to deal with this problem other than manually >editing the file after I download it? [I assume you are downloading from a Unix to a DOS system.] Text files in Unix and DOS use different end-of-line conventions. Unix uses a "New Line" character (same as LF in DOS). DOS (and CP/M) uses 2 characters, a Carriage Return and Line Feed at the end of each line. The Mac uses only a CR. If you use Z-MODEM to download and invoke it from the Unix command line, use the -a switch to automatically change to DOS end-of-line conventions. Thusly: sz -a my.text.file From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 21:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00251; Sun, 6 Oct 96 21:03:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id VAA14562 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 21:01:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA14557 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 21:01:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vA6py-00038mC; Sun, 6 Oct 96 20:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: saper@sgh.waw.pl (Marcin Cieslak) Subject: Re: V3.95 not always repaint Date: 6 Oct 1996 17:02:34 GMT Message-Id: <538ona$etq@onyx.sgh.waw.pl> References: <32525974.6678@suisun.ctd.ornl.gov> >The user ended up with the "index" still on the screen and >the mail headers were missing. Yes, I have the same problem on AIX with pine 3.93. Composing, replying is sometimes difficult. Thankfully, Ctrl-L solves the problem - it clears the screen. > >The user is running DECterm on a DEC3000 running OSF/1 Version 2.1. He >telneted to an AIX 4.1.4 to use pine3.95. I use pine on AIX4.1.4 using all kinds of terminals: xterm, aixterm and dtterm. Also, when "aixterm" is in VT102 mode (allows mouse-click asa command) Extended PC keyboard keys (End, Home, etc.) hang pine session. I have to kill it and continue editing it as an interrupted message. > << Marcin Cieslak // saper@sgh.waw.pl >> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 22:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01110; Sun, 6 Oct 96 22:15:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id WAA23647 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 22:13:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA23642 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 22:13:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vA7te-00038mC; Sun, 6 Oct 96 22:06 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Re: error: Who are you? Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 01:01:11 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3258854D.3B3D@ultinet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3258854D.3B3D@ultinet.com> On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, RT wrote: > Hi, > > I am using Solaris 2.4 on Sparc machine and I have problems with pine > 3.95. > > I am able to use pine with no problems. However, some of my users > getting the following error when they try to use pine: > > "Who are you? (Unable to look up login name)" > > What I have notice is that when I use the Unix command id I get > differenet results for the users that have the problems and for myself. > Myself I get the id as well as the user name while my users get the id > number without the username (login name). > > I would appreciate any help. I've had this happen to me too, and the only time it did was when I allowed Pine to create too many .pine-debug# files. After a fourth one was made, Pine didn't know who I was. I have no idea if this has anything to do with that error message, but that's how it happened to me. Try to delete the .pine-debug# files to see if that helps. I now use Pine with the debug level off. -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc.} { "The way to do is to be." } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 23:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30394; Sun, 6 Oct 96 23:40:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id XAA16704 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 23:37:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA16699 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 23:37:01 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA10609; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 23:36:58 -0700 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 23:36:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Brian Barnes Cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: 3.95 vs 3.91 reply-to-all In-Reply-To: <32578842.3ECD@uts.cc.utexas.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Be sure to add all variants of your address to the alt-addresses variable. -teg On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Brian Barnes wrote: > Our system recently upgraded pine (as the title would imply) - now when > I "reply to all" pine includes myself in the carbon copy. This is > rather annoying, different than 3.91. Is there a way to disable this? > > Brian > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 00:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02391; Mon, 7 Oct 96 00:04:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id AAA17172 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 00:02:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA17167 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 00:02:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vA9d5-00038lC; Sun, 6 Oct 96 23:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Slaughter Subject: Re: How to get INBOX on starting ??? Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:38:27 -0700 Message-Id: References: <52u2lf$16i@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <52u2lf$16i@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Put an "i" in your "initial-keystrokes-list" in your configuration. On 2 Oct 1996, Patrick M. McMillin wrote: > How do I configure my pine to go directly to > inbox upon starting the porgram ? > > > |) > / > /| Patrick M. McMillin > / |__ The University of Texas at Austin > ( (|_ ) patrick-mc@mail.utexas.edu > \_|_/ > J > > -- ~~~^~ `0^0' (* " *) =====ooO====U====Ooo========================= Harry Slaughter @Infoseek Corporation harrys@netgate.net harry@infoseek.com 408.971.0922 408.567.2920 --------------------------------------------- Harry's Homepage: http://www.netgate.net/~harrys Check out the best new engine on the web: .oO() ---> http://ultra.infoseek.com ( ) ()Oo. =======\ (====( )========================== \_) ) / (_/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 00:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29589; Mon, 7 Oct 96 00:12:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id AAA17330 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 00:09:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from curly.cc.utexas.edu (curly.cc.utexas.edu [128.83.42.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA17323; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 00:09:50 -0700 Received: from localhost (bbarnes@localhost) by curly.cc.utexas.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/cc-uts-1.13) with SMTP id CAA23276; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 02:09:49 -0500 (CDT) Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 02:09:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Brian Barnes To: Terry Gray Cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: 3.95 vs 3.91 reply-to-all In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII That did it - thanks. Brian | Be sure to add all variants of your address to the alt-addresses variable. | | -teg | | On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Brian Barnes wrote: | | > Our system recently upgraded pine (as the title would imply) - now when | > I "reply to all" pine includes myself in the carbon copy. This is | > rather annoying, different than 3.91. Is there a way to disable this? | > | > Brian | > | | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 02:35:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28705; Mon, 7 Oct 96 02:35:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id CAA18877 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 02:23:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail-gw.t-mi.com (mail-gw.t-mi.com [162.11.243.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA18872 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 02:23:02 -0700 Received: from t-mi.com (162.11.100.51) by mail-gw.t-mi.com (Integralis SMTPRS 1.4) with SMTP id ; Mon, 07 Oct 1996 10:12:15 +0100 Received: from sparc14 by t-mi.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA29064; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 10:22:53 +0100 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 10:20:53 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford Wesley Fulford X-Sender: clifford@sparc14 To: Jago Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: error: Who are you? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It looks to me as if you are do not have secure RPC credentials. When you login your UNIX password is found but your network credentials are not, consequently USER is not being set (if you look carefully at the screen during the login process you will see a message on the lines of 'unable to set USER' flash up. It may be that your secure credentials do in fact exist but the passwords are different, most administrators will try to keep the two synchronised so that their users are not troubled by the the 2 login processes (login and keylogin). If you or your systems admin would like help with sorting this out I can help and I have a bunch of scripts to handle NIS+ problems of this nature but I guess you'd better write to me directly as its a Solaris admin issue not a pine one. (Unless there are dozens of Pine users out there with the same problem and want to follow the discussion). Clifford Wesley Fulford _________________________________________________________________________ CBF-International | clifford@t-mi.com | 044 (0)468-003-889 17 Sewdley Street | clifford@cix.compulink.co.uk | 044 (0)181-986-5239 Lea Bridge, E5-0AX. | | 044 (0)171-577-2741 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, Jago wrote: > On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, RT wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I am using Solaris 2.4 on Sparc machine and I have problems with pine > > 3.95. > > > > I am able to use pine with no problems. However, some of my users > > getting the following error when they try to use pine: > > > > "Who are you? (Unable to look up login name)" > > > > What I have notice is that when I use the Unix command id I get > > differenet results for the users that have the problems and for myself. > > Myself I get the id as well as the user name while my users get the id > > number without the username (login name). > > > > I would appreciate any help. > > I've had this happen to me too, and the only time it did was when I > allowed Pine to create too many .pine-debug# files. After a fourth one > was made, Pine didn't know who I was. I have no idea if this has anything > to do with that error message, but that's how it happened to me. Try to > delete the .pine-debug# files to see if that helps. I now use Pine with > the debug level off. > > -- > {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} > { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } > { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } > { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } > { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc.} > { "The way to do is to be." } > {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 03:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03754; Mon, 7 Oct 96 03:53:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id DAA27708 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 03:47:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA27703 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 03:47:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAD94-00038oC; Mon, 7 Oct 96 03:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhd@Radix.Net (Joseph Davidson) Subject: Convert mail address lists between mailers Date: 7 Oct 1996 00:12:51 GMT Message-Id: <539hu3$2ns@news1.radix.net> I have Web pages to translate the mailing lists between mailers. Eudora, Netscape, Pine and Elm All possible translations are supported. You can find these at www.interguru.com -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Davidson Ph.D. InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting Computer and Network Consulting, Win 95 and Mac 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 07:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05277; Mon, 7 Oct 96 07:04:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id GAA22057 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 06:52:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA22052 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 06:52:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAG3f-00038pC; Mon, 7 Oct 96 06:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lori Stevens Subject: 2nd International IMAP Meeting Update Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 14:34:04 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 2nd International INTERNET MESSAGE ACCESS PROTOCOL Meeting Seattle, Nov 6-8, 1996 Update: Change of date for early registration deadline We have decided to change our early registration deadline to October 9th. This decision was based on many requests to extend our deadline while taking into account that October 6th falls on a Sunday. On October 9th the meeting fee goes from $225.00 to $300.00. See the following URL for meeting details: http://www.washington.edu/imap/meeting.2nd/ At the Westin Hotel, the group rate of $125.00/night (guaranteed until October 6th) also applies to two days before and two days after the meeting. The Westin's 1-800 number may not have complete information about our group rate package so use Seattle reservations at 1-206-728-1000 (hours are 8:00-17:00 PDT). From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 07:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27394; Mon, 7 Oct 96 07:16:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id HAA00342 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 07:12:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA00337 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 07:12:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAGMs-00038pC; Mon, 7 Oct 96 07:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: MATHER Subject: Re: HELP :"Out of free storage." Date: 7 Oct 1996 13:15:59 GMT Message-Id: <53avqf$eqg@boursy.news.erols.com> References: <1996Oct4.183732.32128@ludens> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jeno@ludens.elte.hu (Ve'rte'nyi Ga'bor) wrote: > Hello! > > What shall I do? I get such a message when I want to > read my messages in my INBOX folder: > Bug in Pine detected. "Out of free storage". > And it drop me out. > I got some place on my userdisc. > > Thanks > > Gabor V. If you are the system administrator, increase the size of the partition that mail resides on. If not, delete some of your files in your directory, and then delete some mail. As a system administrator myself, I can't stand mail pack rats! Print it out and keep it if it is important! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 07:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07189; Mon, 7 Oct 96 07:58:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id HAA23069 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 07:53:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA23064 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 07:52:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAH04-00038pC; Mon, 7 Oct 96 07:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: how to install pico? Date: 4 Oct 1996 21:42:51 GMT Message-Id: References: umar1@u.washington.edu (Umar Cheema): > How I can install pico on a server which previously had vi editor? Installation: Get the sources to pine (pico is included) and compile them. > Also can I install emacs too ? Sure. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 09:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04974; Mon, 7 Oct 96 09:09:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id JAA24771 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 09:00:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc1.nerc.com (nerc1.nerc.com [205.247.120.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA24766 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 09:00:27 -0700 Received: from nerc3.nerc.com (luomat@nerc3.nerc.com [205.247.120.7]) by nerc1.nerc.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA14941; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 11:59:44 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:00:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Timothy Luoma Reply-To: Tim Luoma To: MATHER Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HELP :"Out of free storage." In-Reply-To: <53avqf$eqg@boursy.news.erols.com> Message-Id: Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > If you are the system administrator, increase the size of the partition > that mail resides on. If not, delete some of your files in your > directory, and then delete some mail. As a system administrator myself, > I can't stand mail pack rats! Print it out and keep it if it is > important! When I keep email I do so because I want to be able to reference it later on, which I would much rather do via the Unix file tools (ie grep etc) than flipping through pages and pages of printed out email messages. Who needs more paper in their life? Of course, I also sort my mail into various folders, and keep a minimal amount of messages in my INBOX, so I never have to worry about that OUT OF SPACE message. TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 11:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13323; Mon, 7 Oct 96 11:30:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id LAA06481 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 11:22:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nyhs.med.cornell.edu (nyhs.med.cornell.edu [140.251.191.16]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA06474 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 11:22:16 -0700 Received: from localhost (admin@localhost) by nyhs.med.cornell.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA22560; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 14:27:59 -0400 id OAA22560; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 14:27:59 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 14:27:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Admin User To: Mark Raciborski Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: AIX 4.2 and PINE In-Reply-To: <4va1d8$1iq@tick.cs.wm.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mark, Did you ever get an answer to this question? I noticed something very interesting on my AIX 4.1 box 2 weeks ago myslef. I was originally runing Pine 3.91, 3.94 on a Linux box and will move it over to the AIX host. Well one of the problems was regarding how the sendmail on the Linux (1.2.13) handled headers from my Novell MHS/SMTP gateway. Now on the AIX bow the problem just vanished. So maybe what caused you probelms was the correction to mine. Tony Costa Team Leader End User Support New York Hospital tcosta@nyh.med.cornell.edu On 19 Aug 1996, Mark Raciborski wrote: > We upgraded from AIX 3.2.55 to AIX 4.2. This release runs a new SMTP/SENDMAIL. > PINE 3.89, 3.85, and 3.91 along with Eudora all hang when you try to send > Email. Anyone seen this problem or know what is wrong? thanks, > mark@mail.wm.edu > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:07:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10174; Mon, 7 Oct 96 12:07:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id MAA29976 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:02:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay3.UU.NET (relay3.UU.NET [192.48.96.8]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA29969 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:02:12 -0700 From: msw@mailya.yakima.com Received: from uucp3.UU.NET by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp3.UU.NET [192.48.96.34]) id QQbkky24079; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 15:02:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailya.UUCP by uucp3.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 15:02:11 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by mailya.yakima.com id AA844714690 Mon, 07 Oct 96 11:58:10 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 96 11:58:10 Message-Id: <9609078447.AA844714690@mailya.yakima.com> To: "Pine email discussion group" Subject: Pine on AIX UNIX v4.1 I was finally able to get a good compile of Pine on my AIX 4.1 machine, but only after some rather serious alteration of several Pine source files. Somehow, I doubt that I should have done this, but since this is (for now at least) a test machine ... Anyway, the problem appears to be related to the way comments in some source files are handled. At least that's what the "C" compiler seemed to be complaining about. For example, in the /pine3.95/pine/osdep/os-a41.h file, several comment lines appear like this: /* #include /* BSD-based systems */ As far as I understand comment lines in "C" source code, the delimiters are the /* and */ sequences. However, in many lines like the one above, two left-hand delimiters occur prior to a single right-hand one. The only way I was able to get Pine to properly "build" (compile) was to alter these comments by removing the second left-hand delimiter. After making this change, the compiles seemed to go without a problem. However, I noticed that the file sizes ended up dramatically different on AIX 4.1 compared to AIX 3.2.5. For example, after compiling all programs on AIX 3.2.5, the binary files created were: $ ls -l total 21768 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 1717607 Sep 8 18:34 imapd -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 1557523 Sep 8 18:34 mtest -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 861076 Sep 8 18:34 pico -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 858637 Sep 8 18:34 pilot -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 6137198 Sep 8 18:34 pine $ but on the AIX 4.1 system, the same binary files looked like this: $ ls -l total 10936 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root audit 1054577 Oct 5 07:42 imapd -rwxr-xr-x 1 root audit 1013146 Oct 5 07:42 mtest -rwxr-xr-x 1 root audit 291237 Oct 5 07:42 pico -rwxr-xr-x 1 root audit 289062 Oct 5 07:42 pilot -rwxr-xr-x 1 root audit 2938894 Oct 5 07:42 pine $ Despite the differences in file sizes, Pine on the AIX 4.1 system seems to work just fine. Hmmmm. My questions are: 1. If alteration of the source code comment lines is NOT the proper way to get around the compilation failures, what is the proper method? 2. If the resulting binary files are not the proper sizes, what happened? Thank you for any comments you may have. - Michael ------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Wright, Systems Analyst email: msw@yakima.com Yakima Products, Inc. Ph: 707-826-8175 P.O. Box 4899, Arcata, CA 95521 (USA) Fx: 707-826-8149 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15798; Mon, 7 Oct 96 13:12:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA09619 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:08:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA09614 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:08:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vALpZ-00038qC; Mon, 7 Oct 96 12:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: How to create lists of addresses? Date: 4 Oct 1996 18:42:36 GMT Message-Id: <533lqs$1t0@due.unit.no> References: [Posted and mailed] In article , Diana Zhang Wobus, CHPDM, UMBC wrote: >Even since Pine was updated (about a month or so ago at my site), I can no >longer create separate lists of addresses where I group addresses. The >list options that was on the older version of Pine somehow is not there >anymore. What happened and how do I create lists? --Diana You now use the same commands to handle lists as to handle ordinary aliases, except that you give more than one address in the (new) alias editing screen. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17420; Mon, 7 Oct 96 13:53:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA02950 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:49:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from felix.dircon.co.uk (felix.dircon.co.uk [193.128.224.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA02945 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:49:08 -0700 Received: by felix.dircon.co.uk id AA24877 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:35:35 +0100 Received: from gw2-151.pool.dircon.co.uk(194.112.35.151) by amnesiac via smap (V1.3) id sma024868; Mon Oct 7 21:35:08 1996 Message-Id: <32596965.858@dircon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 21:34:45 +0100 From: CyberSlut Reply-To: cybrslut@dircon.co.uk Organization: CyberSlut X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hia, Sorry to trouble you, but I need serious help. Although this doesn't revolve around what you specialise in, I hope you can help me. Problem: Since installing Duke Nukem3d, Duke 2, and the build files, my screen has gone very dark in both DOS, and Win95. Is there a command I can use to rectify this? Please Help. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 14:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17449; Mon, 7 Oct 96 14:03:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA10970 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:58:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA10965 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:58:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAMf5-00038tC; Mon, 7 Oct 96 13:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: Re: Problem with 'personal name'. Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 14:56:43 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > : what others see when they look at my message in the index is my personal > : name and the subject of the message. This time, after posting, my > : personal name did not appear. Instead, it said, "To: 'newsgroup name'" > : and the subject. > > This is actually only within pine. Your actual message shows up with > "butterfly." What you are seeing is a new feature allowing you to > easily identify messages you have sent. The idea is that you want to > know where you sent your messages. Wow - revelation. I see messages from others, however, as "From: Some Guy ", whereas yours, butterfly's, and mine are simply 'from' our addresses.. I'd really like to have my name preceding my address, if that's possible. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 14:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04845; Mon, 7 Oct 96 14:03:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA03142 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:56:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA03137 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:56:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAMc5-00038qC; Mon, 7 Oct 96 13:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zach@world.std.com Subject: automatic uuencoding? Message-Id: Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 11:37:38 GMT Are there any neat solutions for having pine automatically uuencode and include in the text a binary file, rather than having to send it as an attachment to an unknown foreign mailer? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 17:13:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22779; Mon, 7 Oct 96 17:13:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id RAA08387 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 17:09:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA08381 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 17:09:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAPds-00038sC; Mon, 7 Oct 96 17:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: ISO-8859-1 Date: 4 Oct 1996 19:02:40 GMT Message-Id: <533n0g$27g@due.unit.no> References: <530guu$3a7@cri.ens-lyon.fr> In article , Paul O Bartlett wrote: >Whether you will actually see accented ISO letters depends on >your display hardware. Typing in the letters should not be a problem >if you can display them. A reasonable assumption, but not always correct. Often, I have been able to view 8-bit characters without further ado, but I have had to set terminal attributes in order to type them. I assume this is due to programs following the "be conservative in what you send, but liberal in what you accept" adage. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 18:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10933; Mon, 7 Oct 96 18:37:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id SAA18482 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 18:34:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from orichalc.acsu.buffalo.edu (orichalc.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.7.22]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA18477 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 18:34:01 -0700 Received: from ubppp-039.ppp-net.buffalo.edu (ubppp-039.ppp-net.buffalo.edu [128.205.222.103]) by orichalc.acsu.buffalo.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA03996 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:33:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199610080133.VAA03996@orichalc.acsu.buffalo.edu> Date: Mon, 07 Oct 96 21:39:02 -0700 From: "Thomas A. Zabawa" X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1 (Windows; U; 16bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pc pine attachments Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii When I attach a file from a floppy, I am prompted to create a sentmail folder. However the folder sentmail already exists. If I answer yes, the message is aborted. If I answer No, the header changes to FCC: sentmail. I then delete the sentmail header and the attachment is sent successfully. However, when I go to my folders, my savemail and sentmail folder no longer exist. When I exit PC Pine and restart, the folders Inbox, savemail and sentmail are there again. It seems that when I send attachments, my folders are erased for some reason. What should I do? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 20:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16663; Mon, 7 Oct 96 20:22:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id UAA12403 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 20:12:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA12397 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 20:12:39 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 8 Oct 96 11:18:01 +0800 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:09:09 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Pine Info Subject: pre authentication----more forgiving? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Just want to make a note here..... I'm running pine3.95 under Solaris with tcsh. I've some entries in my .login and .cshrc files which include a couple of stty commands. They "seem" to be needed when I'm using some telnet clients from my PC. I say "seem" since I'll have to go back an recheck.... Anyway, if an rsh is done a system on the network to the system with my INBOX I will always get: stty: : Invalid argument Whatever command I enter in the rsh will work fine..... So, I get the following with imapd: hobbes[49]% rsh calvin /etc/rimapd stty: : Invalid argument * PREAUTH calvin.twntpe.cdc.com IMAP4 Service 8.3(140) at Tue, 8 Oct 1996 10:57:15 +0800 (GMT) (Report problems in this server to MRC@CAC.Washington.EDU) This will cause pine to consider this a failure and ask me for my username/pw. Removing the stty commands fixes the problem. Maybe the pre-authentication process can be a bit more forgiving? Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12840; Mon, 7 Oct 96 21:03:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id UAA13130 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 20:55:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from intfw.bear.com (intfw.bear.com [206.25.172.66]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA13125 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 20:55:18 -0700 Received: by intfw.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04547; Mon, 7 Oct 96 23:55:14 EDT Received: from fastbear(165.168.74.3) by intfw via smap (V1.3) id sma004295; Mon Oct 7 23:48:19 1996 Received: from ursa2.bear.com by fastbear.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/1.0 AMR 12/15/94) id AA27973; Mon, 7 Oct 96 23:53:17 EDT Received: from whip_xfr.bear.com (whip-xfr) by ursa2.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/AMR+DJMS(2)) id AA23054; Mon, 7 Oct 96 23:49:21 EDT Received: from wizard.bsnet by whip_xfr.bear.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA10867; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 23:48:32 -0400 Received: from tiberius.bsnet by wizard.bsnet (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA29941; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 23:48:31 -0400 Received: from localhost by tiberius.bsnet (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA12869; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 23:48:29 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 23:48:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard G. Roberto" Reply-To: richr@bear.com To: Ed Greshko Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: pre authentication----more forgiving? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > Hi, > > Just want to make a note here..... > > I'm running pine3.95 under Solaris with tcsh. I've some entries > in my .login and .cshrc files which include a couple of stty commands. > They "seem" to be needed when I'm using some telnet clients from my > PC. I say "seem" since I'll have to go back an recheck.... > > Anyway, if an rsh is done a system on the network to the system > with my INBOX I will always get: > > stty: : Invalid argument > This is because your trying to execute an stty command (via .cshrc or .login) but there is no tty! You should move these stty commands into .login and wrap them in something like: if ($?prompt) then stty ... stty ... endif I'm not sure about the exact syntax because I do not use tcsh (and the prompt may need to be caps). This is surely in the tcsh man page. As far as other shells go (i.e. POSIX-like shells), htis test should suffice: if `tty -s`;then stty ... stty ... fi > > This will cause pine to consider this a failure and ask me for > my username/pw. Removing the stty commands fixes the problem. Maybe > the pre-authentication process can be a bit more forgiving? > This breaks rdist on some systems as well, but the rpeauthentication process doesn't need to be more forgiving, the shell needs to be configured correctly (via .profile, or in your case .login). Hope this helps. Richard G. Roberto richr@bear.com 011-81-3-3437-7967 - Tokyo, Japan -- ******************************************************************************* Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. ******************************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17066; Mon, 7 Oct 96 21:10:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id VAA21202 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:03:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA21191 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:03:10 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 8 Oct 96 12:08:33 +0800 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:59:40 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "Richard G. Roberto" Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: pre authentication----more forgiving? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, Richard G. Roberto wrote: > Hope this helps. Yes, it helps...and as time permits I'll work on fixing "my" problem. So, far this is the only "problem" I've had with my setup so you can understand that there had been no incentive to find a solution. :-) Thanks, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:44:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10120; Mon, 7 Oct 96 21:44:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id VAA13770 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:36:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mirage.irdu.nus.sg (mirage.irdu.nus.sg [137.132.19.24]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA13758 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:36:15 -0700 Received: from localhost (aaron@localhost) by mirage.irdu.nus.sg (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA29826 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 12:36:05 +0800 (SGT) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 12:36:05 +0800 (SGT) From: Aaron Aw X-Sender: aaron@mirage Reply-To: Aaron Aw To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Adding Reply-To in Outmail.. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear All, Could someone tell me how I could configure pine3.95 in order that all the mail that is sent includes a reply-to that contains a domain name other than server that I'm currently using. I'm intending to use a mail forwarding service eg. pobox.com I cannot change the domain name in unix pine as it has been set by the sys admin. Is there any filter program out there that does this? Thanks! Just Me, Aaron Aw ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JavaTech Development Group, Internet R&D Unit Computer Center, National University of Singapore. email: aaron@irdu.nus.sg http://irdu.nus.sg/~aaron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:13:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28441; Mon, 7 Oct 96 22:13:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id WAA22191 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:05:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA22186 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:05:47 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbkmm25276; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:05:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA19845; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 08:07:13 -0300 Received: from kubbar by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA25175; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 08:05:25 -0300 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 08:35:28 +0330 (IST) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@kubbar To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi , i wonder is there on pine a filter program i mean can i create a special folder just for the pine-ifo i mean when any email wi get from pine-info@cacwashington.edu this email will go to incoming folder i will name it pine then all emails that i will get from this list it will go that incoming folder can i do that ????? *********************************************************************** *** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** college of engineering *** ** Computer Engineering *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** Kuwait University *** ** *** ** *********************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28522; Mon, 7 Oct 96 22:28:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id WAA14617 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:19:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA14612 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:19:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAUWf-00038uC; Mon, 7 Oct 96 22:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bashley@ktb.net (Bev) Subject: Re: How do I save to a file? Date: 8 Oct 1996 02:51:10 GMT Message-Id: <53cfiu$90m@dns.ktb.net> References: <52rj83$rao@fnord.dfw.net> <3257E7E9.7115@telis.org> Kathleen (kathleen@telis.org) wrote: | > > When someone has sent me an attached file in Word or WodPerfect format and | > > I want to save it to my hard drive to read, what do I do? The save command | > > appears to save it in a directory on my ISP's system. In fact, I have many | > > saved files out there and need to know how to get to them with my word | > > processor. | | My provider only lets us have Pine or Lynx through a menu, we cannot | access the UNIX prompt. Somehow there must be a way to get mail onto our | own hard drives from within Pine itself? Doesn't sound unreasonable, does it? Try emailing help@telis.org and ask how to do it. MAYBE they'll tell you... Crude way is to do a screen capture with your terminal software (procomm does this with alt-f1) while you scroll the file. Does the menu allow this? I had to do that for about a year because the lousy provider just couldn't set up the system to support zmodem -- WHICH IS THE STANDARD OF THE INDUSTRY, FOR GOD'S SAKE! If you want to download WordPerfect files, you will have to use uuencode (if they offer this) to translate it into printable characters, do the scroll thing, and then uudecode (you will need the uudecode.exe program on your hard disk -- god knows how you're going to get it unless somebody can give it to you on diskette) it when it gets to your hard disk. This is obviously an awfully cumbersome way to do things. Best thing to do is bug your provider. If they simply don't offer any downloading capabilities, you might use lynx to check out http://www.thelist.com which lists ISPs by state, area code, etc., and find somebody who is more reasonable. Hang in there, things *will* get better :) Bev bashley@ktb.net **************************************** My computer doesn't have to be friendly; civil is entirely sufficient. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:51:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15404; Mon, 7 Oct 96 22:51:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id WAA22894 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:49:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA22889 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:49:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAUzN-00038uC; Mon, 7 Oct 96 22:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Carriage return in PICO Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:52:50 -0400 Message-Id: References: <5393ui$h1n@news.cyberenet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5393ui$h1n@news.cyberenet.net> On 6 Oct 1996, Robert Gonzalez wrote: > Pico doesn't seem to use character 13 for end of line. > > When I download a textfile, everything is all run together. > > Does anyone know how to deal with this problem other than manually > editing the file after I download it? This could possibly be a result of incompatible settings in the two different communications programs you are using for the download -- one program running on your "host" (where your textfile is) and one on your "desktop" (where you are trying to download to). A lot of the *good* dekstop communications programs have the ability to adjust the lineends on the fly during transmission and reception. Check your user's manual. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29354; Mon, 7 Oct 96 22:58:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id WAA15165 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:55:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA15160 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:55:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAV1O-00038uC; Mon, 7 Oct 96 22:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sfhw@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (Laurie Fuchs) Subject: has mail been read? Date: 8 Oct 1996 03:22:46 GMT Message-Id: <53che6$itl@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> Is there anyway to know whether or not mail I have sent has been read or not? Thanks to anyone that has any information. -- Laurie From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 23:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29550; Mon, 7 Oct 96 23:07:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id XAA15324 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 23:05:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA15309 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 23:05:46 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 8 Oct 96 14:11:08 +0800 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 14:02:15 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Aaron Aw Cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Adding Reply-To in Outmail.. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Aaron Aw wrote: > Could someone tell me how I could configure pine3.95 in order that > all the mail that is sent includes a reply-to that contains a domain name > other than server that I'm currently using. I'm intending to use a mail > forwarding service eg. pobox.com > I cannot change the domain name in unix pine as it has been set by > the sys admin. Is there any filter program out there that does this? > Thanks! Ooooppps....you didn't do "Information Research" did you???? Go to Setup/Config...... OPTION: Customized-Headers You may add your own custom headers to all outgoing messages. Each header you specify here must include the header tag (Reply-To:, Approved:, etc.) and may optionally include a value for that header. If you want to see these custom headers each time you compose a message, you must add them to your default composer headers list (see above), otherwise they become part of the rich header set which you only see when you press the rich header (Ctrl-R) command. Good Luck..... Ed P.S. This public service announcement has been brought to you by the letter Q and the number 7. (BTW, the number 5 isn't talking to me since it worked with T to form yesterday's answer but received no credit.) -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30429; Tue, 8 Oct 96 01:19:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id BAA24729 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:15:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA24724 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:14:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAXF6-00038uC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 01:10 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI (Holger Lillqvist) Subject: Re: How to get INBOX on starting ??? Date: 8 Oct 1996 07:21:47 GMT Message-Id: References: <52u2lf$16i@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <5389el$9o5@ccshst05.uoguelph.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >: Put an "i" in your "initial-keystrokes-list" in your configuration. > >Or type "pine -i" from the command line > Or put the following line into your .login -file: alias pi 'pine -i' Then, with pi (or whatever) you get directly into your inbox, with pine you get the main menu in normal fashion. -- Holger.Lillqvist@Helsinki.Fi University of Helsinki * Nordica / Institute of literature From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30638; Tue, 8 Oct 96 01:40:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id BAA25016 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:37:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA25011 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:37:31 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 8 Oct 96 16:42:53 +0800 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 16:34:00 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Holger Lillqvist Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to get INBOX on starting ??? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 8 Oct 1996, Holger Lillqvist wrote: > >: Put an "i" in your "initial-keystrokes-list" in your configuration. > > > >Or type "pine -i" from the command line > > > Or put the following line into your .login -file: > alias pi 'pine -i' > Then, with pi (or whatever) you get directly into your inbox, with pine > you get the main menu in normal fashion. Hummmm, will "alias" work with all shells? I think not.... Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 06:43:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32153; Tue, 8 Oct 96 06:43:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id GAA20970 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 06:40:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA20965 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 06:40:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAcLm-00038uC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 06:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen Subject: Re: How to get INBOX on starting ??? Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 06:06:25 +0200 Message-Id: <3259D341.3F54@dit.ou.dk> References: <52u2lf$16i@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <5389el$9o5@ccshst05.uoguelph.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve Howie wrote: >=20 > Harry Slaughter wrote: > : Put an "i" in your "initial-keystrokes-list" in your configuration. >=20 > Or type "pine -i" from the command line When converting from elm to pine, I made an alias for elm as "pine -i". Worked like a charm, and it is now muscle memory only. As an added benefit it is shorter and faster to type :-) -- Thorbj=F8rn Ravn Andersen "...and...Tubular Bells!" http://www.dit.ou.dk/~ravn From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 06:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20882; Tue, 8 Oct 96 06:50:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id GAA28703 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 06:45:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA28698 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 06:45:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAcQY-00038vC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 06:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: "Move read messages?" prompt Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 18:11:10 GMT Message-Id: <533jrf$qvr@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: In your Pine configuration, make sure that: 1. the "read-message-folder" variable is "" and 2. the "auto-move-read-msgs" option is not checked Exiting Pine will leave all mail, read or unread, in the inbox without asking. -Ram -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ On Thu, 3 Oct 1996 00:42:39 GMT, ekelly@world.std.com (Emily H Kelly) wrote: >Whenever I quit Pine with messages still in my inbox, I receive the prompt >asking, "Move messages to "read-messages"?" Now I know how to configure >Pine to move the messages without prompting; I also know how to configure >Pine to move the messages to the folder of my choice rather than the >default. What I haven't been able to figure out is how to configure Pine >either to quit prompting me altogether, or to offer the prompt with a >default reply "no" (so I could just through it without affecting >my mail). From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 07:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30739; Tue, 8 Oct 96 07:56:12 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id HAA29677 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 07:51:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA29672 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 07:51:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAdOn-00038vC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 07:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Tse" Subject: Re: How to send mail to a GROUP and use .sig Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <52tl1d$2e1@ustsu10.ust.hk> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:04:32 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <52tl1d$2e1@ustsu10.ust.hk> Mime-Version: 1.0 On 2 Oct 1996, Shum Wai Leung wrote: > As title, I want to know to use send mail to a group of people. As > I know that in Unix mail, we can creat a file to make this function. But > what can I do in Unix Pine. Moreover I want to attach .sig in my mail. > Should I creat a file .sig in my home directory ? Make it ".signature" instead of ".sig" ... J. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 07:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00746; Tue, 8 Oct 96 07:59:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id HAA22058 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 07:51:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA22053 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 07:51:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAdOh-00038uC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 07:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gary Starr Subject: Must See!! 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From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 08:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28927; Tue, 8 Oct 96 08:33:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id IAA22782 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 08:29:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA22776 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 08:29:01 -0700 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr21.interl.net [205.244.161.21]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA30450 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 10:27:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA09063 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 10:27:38 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 10:27:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: pine-info Subject: Re: How to get INBOX on starting ??? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > > Or put the following line into your .login -file: > > alias pi 'pine -i' > > Then, with pi (or whatever) you get directly into your inbox, with pine > > you get the main menu in normal fashion. > > Hummmm, will "alias" work with all shells? I think not.... Neither does a .login file (ie. bash uses .bash_profile)... but it does support "alias". Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMlpyyiGB07hAGnFhAQF45wQA8TUEZRHjv+A3yfRsHPqzbald1q2oYT0F WxV7malsThksifKabqOSrZeBF2Kzn+CayS5yg4CYevuFw+igBZeysgU8LoUgQZE3 OpC8FcA/F7gxEE22aOx0o8T/rH7ozm6yVNJ7FLw0lc9Rtv+Vr0CQAgpfuQw55L9R rqbeJSIVgRI= =7mvM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, jasoneng@interl.net Misc Links : http://jfs.home.ml.org/ Linux Links : http://necro.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07422; Tue, 8 Oct 96 11:17:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id LAA27675 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:11:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA27670 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:11:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAgVg-00038vC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 11:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gonzo@cyberenet.net (Robert Gonzalez) Subject: Carriage return in PICO Date: 6 Oct 1996 20:14:10 GMT Message-Id: <5393ui$h1n@news.cyberenet.net> Pico doesn't seem to use character 13 for end of line. When I download a textfile, everything is all run together. Does anyone know how to deal with this problem other than manually editing the file after I download it? Robert J. Gonzalez gonzo@cyberenet.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 12:07:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07309; Tue, 8 Oct 96 12:07:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id LAA06365 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:56:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA06359 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:56:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAhCm-00038wC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 11:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kathleen Subject: Re: How do I save to a file? Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 10:10:01 -0700 Message-Id: <3257E7E9.7115@telis.org> References: <52rj83$rao@fnord.dfw.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit J. Tse wrote: > > On 1 Oct 1996, Consumers Advantage wrote: > > > I access my ISP through a Shell account and VT100 emulation. I then enter > > PINE and am in v3.94. > > > > When someone has sent me an attached file in Word or WodPerfect format and > > I want to save it to my hard drive to read, what do I do? The save command > > appears to save it in a directory on my ISP's system. In fact, I have many > > saved files out there and need to know how to get to them with my word > > processor. > > If your Shell account is on UNIX, try entering "sz filename" at the UNIX > prompt --- this command should start the transfer of the file from the > Shell account to your computer. > Hope this helps. > > J. Tse My provider only lets us have Pine or Lynx through a menu, we cannot access the UNIX prompt. Somehow there must be a way to get mail onto our own hard drives from within Pine itself? Kathleen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:21:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09922; Tue, 8 Oct 96 13:21:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA08564 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:15:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sundance.usd.edu (sundance.usd.edu [192.55.228.42]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA08559 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:14:57 -0700 Received: from localhost (clwillia@localhost) by sundance.usd.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA00733 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:12:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: sundance.usd.edu: clwillia owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:12:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Corey L Williams X-Sender: clwillia@sundance Reply-To: Corey L Williams To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear help, I am trying to find a persons e-mail address at the University of Creighton in Omaha, Nebraska. I have tried the finger command and have been unsuccessful. I was wondering if there was some sort of compatability problem or maybe I was using the wrong command to search for this address. If there is some help you can give me in my search for this e-mail address I would certainly appreciate it. Corey Williams From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02428; Tue, 8 Oct 96 13:21:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA01166 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:15:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu [199.17.81.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA01152 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:15:51 -0700 Received: from localhost by mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/09Oct95-1257PM) id AA25267; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:16:10 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:16:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Rebecca Kapsner To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Rebecca Kapsner Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I can't get into my address book. It tells me Permission Denied. What should I do? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 16:09:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01422; Tue, 8 Oct 96 16:09:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id QAA05933 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 16:06:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA05928 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 16:06:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAl7f-00038BC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 15:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: has mail been read? Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 07:54:42 -0400 Message-Id: References: <53che6$itl@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <53che6$itl@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> On 8 Oct 1996, Laurie Fuchs wrote: > Is there anyway to know whether or not mail I have sent has been read or > not? Thanks to anyone that has any information. In general, NO. There are some proprietary mail systems which will do this, but there simply is no way to do it across the Internet. I'm afraid you're out of luck. Sorry. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17019; Tue, 8 Oct 96 17:30:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id RAA15763 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:26:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA15758 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:26:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAmPz-00038BC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 17:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tomc@pinn.net (Tom Cole) Subject: Re: How do I save to a file? Date: 5 Oct 1996 07:38:30 GMT Message-Id: <53539m$52t@matterhorn.pinn.net> References: <52rj83$rao@fnord.dfw.net> : > I access my ISP through a Shell account and VT100 emulation. I then enter : > PINE and am in v3.94. : > : > When someone has sent me an attached file in Word or WodPerfect format and : > I want to save it to my hard drive to read, what do I do? The save command : > appears to save it in a directory on my ISP's system. First, if you are using Procomm Plus or similar comm program then: {just download the file using Zmodem as usual} otherwise: sz -b {filename} will start the downloading process if you want to start at the unix shell prompt. one thing though: when you get these and view them in WP 5.1 for DOS {example}, you may have to view it and/or save the file as DOS text instead of the way they came downloaded as you might find a bunch of cntrl codes throughout. Thomas S. Cole "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" INTERNET ADDRESS: tomc@pinn.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17218; Tue, 8 Oct 96 17:38:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id RAA08290 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:36:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA08285 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:36:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAmZi-00038BC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 17:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jeno@ludens.elte.hu (Ve'rte'nyi Ga'bor) Subject: HELP :"Out of free storage." Message-Id: <1996Oct4.183732.32128@ludens> Date: 4 Oct 96 18:37:32 +0100 Hello! What shall I do? I get such a message when I want to read my messages in my INBOX folder: Bug in Pine detected. "Out of free storage". And it drop me out. I got some place on my userdisc. Thanks Gabor V. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18403; Tue, 8 Oct 96 18:46:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id SAA17206 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:41:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA17201 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:41:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAnYP-00038BC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 18:35 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dr@ripco.com (David Richards) Subject: Re: X-Authentication-Warning ... Date: 8 Oct 1996 00:20:34 GMT Message-Id: <53c6oi$m78$1@code.ripco.com> References: In article , Abhay Roy wrote: >Any clues on this warning message ? I tried running the binary with my uid, >and setuid (with root ownership). Still the same .. > >From akr@cisco.com Mon Oct 7 15:11:16 1996 >X-Authentication-Warning: rabhay-ss20.cisco.com: akr owned process doing -bs >Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 15:09:50 -0700 (PDT) >From: Abhay Roy >To: Abhay Roy >Subject: test . >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I believe the authentication warning is coming from the mail daemon, not Pine. '-bs' as an option to sendmail, etc tells it to accept a message using SMTP protocol. Presumably the Pine mailer is invoking sendmail to deliver the message, and something in the mailer configuration thinks this is suspicious and adds this header. -- David Richards Ripco, since Nineteen-Eighty-Three My opinions are my own, Public Access in Chicago But they are available for rental Shell/SLIP/PPP/UUCP/ISDN/Leased dr@ripco.com (312) 665-0065 !Free Usenet/E-Mail! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18459; Tue, 8 Oct 96 19:09:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id TAA10076 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:06:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA10071 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:06:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAnyV-00038BC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 19:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: automatic uuencoding? Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:49:18 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 6 Oct 1996 zach@world.std.com wrote: > Are there any neat solutions for having pine automatically uuencode and > include in the text a binary file, rather than having to send it as an > attachment to an unknown foreign mailer? Automatically? Not that I can recall. If you are using the alternate editor feature, some editors might have the ability to run a command or script which you would still have to invoke but which would uuencode the file in the current editor workspace. If such a thing is doable, it would depend totally on what editor you might be using. Unless you are talking about high volume, I have not found it all that onerous to uuencode a file offline and then read it into the composer or editor. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:35:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05556; Tue, 8 Oct 96 19:35:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id TAA18191 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:31:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA18186 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:31:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAoOY-00038BC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 19:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Newsreader NNTP XOVER command Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:46:02 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Ron Bickers wrote: > I use pine as a newsreader and it's pretty slow to sort the articles. I > just realized it uses the HEAD command instead of something like XOVER. > Are there any plans to "fix" this. I'm sure the performance gain would be > significant. Yes. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17606; Tue, 8 Oct 96 20:34:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id UAA11339 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:32:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA11334 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:32:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vApHV-00038BC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 20:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: ISO-8859-1 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:26:54 -0400 Message-Id: References: <530guu$3a7@cri.ens-lyon.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <530guu$3a7@cri.ens-lyon.fr> On 3 Oct 1996, David Monniaux wrote: > I am on a Unix (Sun/Solaris) system, running X and CDE, if that > matters. I like Pine, but it has some problem : it seems to > believe I've got an US_ASCII display : it sometimes complains > about displaying ISO-8859-1 text on such a display. More over, > it refuses accentuated characters typed on the keyboard. > This looks abnormal : my others applications, even the shells, > accept accentuated characters under ISO-8859-1. There's > probably some misconfiguration somewhere, but I can't find where !? Assuming your version of Pine is recent enough, from the Main Menu go into Setup and Config. Scroll down to the character-set variable and set it to ISO-8859-1. This will at least get rid of the annoying message. Whether you will actually see accented ISO letters depends on your display hardware. Typing in the letters should not be a problem if you can display them. Are you using the built-in composer? If so, I will have to let someone else address that. I have been using the alternate editor feature for so long that I have forgotten a lot about the composer. My editor allows me to enter accented letters, and Pine accepts them without complaint. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19297; Tue, 8 Oct 96 20:38:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id UAA19176 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:37:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA19171 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:37:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vApMG-00038TC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 20:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: How can I filter *existing* email? Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:28:08 -0400 Message-Id: References: <52vto7$e7q@basecamp1.net-quest.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <52vto7$e7q@basecamp1.net-quest.com> On 3 Oct 1996, Mike Carlson wrote: > I know, another filtering question. :( In my defense, I have looked > at all the archives and procmail examples I could find before finally > asking here. > > Now with that out of the way...Is there any way to take one huge email > box and split it into various folders? I've managed to get procmail going > just fine with new mail, but this old stuff just hangs out in one big blob. Somebody sent me the following shell script for rerunning procmail against the Inbox. I have never used it and cannot vouch for it. Use and/or adapt at your own risk. #!/bin/sh umask 077 lockfile -l3600 $HOME/.newmail.lock lockfile -l3600 -ml cat /usr/spool/mail/$LOGNAME >>$HOME/.newmail && cat /dev/null >/usr/mail/$LOGNAME lockfile -mu formail -s procmail <$HOME/.newmail rm -f $HOME/.newmail $HOME/.newmail.lock exit 0 > Also, since the folders already contain new email, is there a way to have > it arrange them in the right date order? (Thought I'd ask while I was at it.) I don't know about this last one. (By the way, these really weren't Pine questions for this Pine newsgroup. There is a procmail mailing list for questions like these.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18979; Tue, 8 Oct 96 20:42:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id UAA11497 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:40:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA11492 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:40:20 -0700 Received: from earth.execpc.com (holmer@earth [169.207.16.1]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.7.6/8.7.5) with ESMTP id WAA06642 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 22:40:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (holmer@localhost) by earth.execpc.com (8.7.6/8.7) with SMTP id WAA25293 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 22:40:17 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 22:40:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Eric Holm X-Sender: holmer@earth To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Zmodem upload command Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I want to use Zmodem/rz to upload messages from my local machine into Pine, but I don't know the proper rz command line to use for for setting the PINE 'upload-command' and 'upload-command-prefix' configuration options. 'Rz/sz' documentation has been elusive. My SUN server is using PINE 3.95; I don't know the version of rz. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 21:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17060; Tue, 8 Oct 96 21:24:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id VAA12108 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 21:22:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA12103 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 21:22:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAq5I-00038BC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 21:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: UNIX to PC Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:27:43 -0400 Message-Id: References: <5317ev$5ih@rain.psg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5317ev$5ih@rain.psg.com> On 3 Oct 1996, John Mellon wrote: > Is there any simple way to transfer all of the files from an INTEL based > UNIX operating system to a DOS/Windows operating system? I know nothing > about UNIX but I need to access the files on a UNIX machine. Any help > or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Your question has nothing to do with Pine as such, which is what this newsgroup is all about. If you don't get any useful answers, I would suggest that you try one of the Unix newsgroups. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 23:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10997; Tue, 8 Oct 96 23:49:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id XAA22046 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 23:47:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA22041 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 23:47:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAsMR-00038BC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 23:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dan and Tina Subject: A question about folders? Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 23:46:02 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ]Can anyone tell me if it is possible to have pine separate out mail such that if you subscribe to several lists, they can be sorted into separate folders? I know this already happens with news groups, but I was wondering if it can be done with email. thaqnks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 00:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22054; Wed, 9 Oct 96 00:10:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id AAA14701 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 00:07:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA14696 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 00:07:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAsdY-00038BC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 00:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tramm@jove.acs.unt.edu (Thomas Fritz Ramm) Subject: How to display header? Date: 7 Oct 1996 15:44:59 GMT Message-Id: <53b8hr$itt@hermes.acs.unt.edu> How can I display the whole "technical" header using Pine3.95? With "technical" header I mean all the info that shows received by machine.com at that time and so forth. Thank you -- Thomas --------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas F Ramm --> tramm@jove.acs.unt.edu --> tramm@stephens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 00:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22038; Wed, 9 Oct 96 00:55:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id AAA22966 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 00:52:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA22961 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 00:52:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAtOm-00038BC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 00:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: .forward filter? Date: 7 Oct 1996 10:48:07 -0400 Message-Id: References: Michael Darius writes: >I am going through an ISP who is offering me a virtual hosting system. >In turn, anything@alliedproductions.com is funneled to one account. >I have been trying to make a filter to be able to make it so that if >it says a specific user@alliedproductions.com then it will be forwarded >to their email address... This is one of the most frequently asked questions on the procmail mailing list. I suggest you look at the procmail mailing list archives, which are available through either of these: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/internet/procmail/ http://www.best.com/~ii/internet/procmail/ (mirror of above) I think the best solution is if you can get your ISP to insert a X-Envelope header, which you can use to filter the messages. The problem is that when a user is Bcc'd you won't be able to tell who it was intended for (unless the user's address shows up in one of the Received headers but this doesn't always happen). Good luck and please let us know if you find a good solution. -Nancy (posted and mailed) -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:17:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22902; Wed, 9 Oct 96 01:17:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id BAA15543 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:13:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA15538 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:13:15 -0700 From: E.Greshko@cdc.com Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 9 Oct 96 16:18:36 +0800 Date: 09 Oct 1996 08:12:08 GMT Subject: Re: Pine and X.500 directory. To: johnj@gdb.org, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <325b5fdc51e2002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> In article you wrote: > Our project is looking at using an X.500 server to simplify sending > email (easy to find a user over several different lans etc.) > > I was wondering how a pine user would take advantage of the availabilty > of the X.500 server? > > Would the global addressbook be re-loaded from the server, or can > searching an addressbook (^T) in compose mode quickly access such > a service? At the moment you'd have to do a directory sync between the X.500 directory and the global addressbook. Currently pine does not support LDAP, ph, or other protocols which could directly interface with X.500. I'm not sure what the plans are....but I believe pine4.0 will eventually support IMSP. If I'm not mistaken...and I could be...IMSP could be linked with an X.500 directory to provide address information. Regards, Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22864; Wed, 9 Oct 96 01:19:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id BAA15628 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:17:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA15623 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:17:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAtlq-00038BC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 01:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steve Howie Subject: source code identification Date: 5 Oct 1996 19:57:01 GMT Message-Id: <536eid$8it@ccshst05.uoguelph.ca> We have a requirement to make a small local mod to the Pine3.95 code (Unix), and I need help in identifying exactly where the mod should be placed. When composing a message and after the To: and/or CC: or BCC: fields have been filled in, the user presses and these fields are all reformatted and tidied up. We'd like to make a call to try to resolve any unqualified local recipient addresses (i.e. nothing after the "@") before the message is sent off to sendmail, and flash a warning in the recipient is not a valid local user (forget about aliases for now, that's a different story :)). So we need to know which module (pine, pico etc) you are in at that point. Writing the mod itself is relatively trivial - just need the location. The reason we need to do this - lots of users take it upon themselves to keep "mailing lists" of student userids. These get out of date very quickly as you might imagine. Passing off unresolved invalid addresses to sendmail causes an ugly processing overhead when it looks in NIS to resolve the recipients address. Thanks for any hints, Scotty ================================================================= Steve Howie Email: showie@uoguelph.ca NetNews and Listserv Admin. Phone: (519) 824-4120 x2556 Computing and Communications Svcs. Fax: (519) 763-6143 University of Guelph If it's not Scottish its CRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP ================================================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22716; Wed, 9 Oct 96 01:30:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id BAA23461 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:27:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA23456 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:27:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAtwC-00038BC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 01:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Anthony Towns Subject: PGP & Pine -- another solution? Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 18:04:16 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi All, I've seen a few messages about Pine and PGP integration on this newsgroup, and most of the solutions proferred suggest using a short shell script as a filter or an alternate editor. That seems somewhat of a pain to me: you either have to include your passphrase in the script, or as an environment variable, or you have to retype it all the time. I've got a slightly different solution, which uses Richard Gooch's PGPsendmail package (which is a Unix only thing, AFAIK). pgpsendmail includes a program called pgpdaemon which sets up some named pipes and, after you've sent it your passphrase, signs, and decrypts mail for you. I've written some extra programs (to go with Mr Gooch's pgppipe which decrypts mail), namely pgpsign (which clearsigns stdin to stdout) and pgpencrypt (which encrypts and signs stdin to stdout). With some fairly trivial filters, pine and pgp fit together transparently. Encrypted messages get automagically decrypted, signed messages get a validity segment stuck on the bottom, and any mail I send gets automatically signed or encrypted. It's a somewhat more complicated solution and it does have some minor risks associated with it but I find that it works really well. Cheers, aj - -- Anthony Towns | #include aj@humbug.org.au | PGP Key: 0x7172DAED http://student.uq.edu.au/~s343676 | Life is not a matroid. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: ascii Comment: Public key available from http://student.uq.edu.au/~s343676 iQCVAwUBMltchuRRvX9xctrtAQGWEgP9HN95usi4SIVbHxMOIkuEqnDVcNuqXUQV hG4Psjgf4WqNU9mnNV20nit/M8USNG2Q1JUIBzyVtzkLPD4QRFPLpbmgcZlObfZB sANjzvLyVkOfZVfsqJsed3pR7gciVo2WLGg3S1y0JmzGhFxPrHvdbnR2Lc0z3vIe zS5ylugfCx0= =AOdH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:34:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22235; Wed, 9 Oct 96 01:34:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id BAA15861 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:32:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from erm1.u-strasbg.fr (erm1.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.61]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA15856 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:32:52 -0700 Received: from yoda.u-strasbg.fr (bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.66]) by erm1.u-strasbg.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA26610; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 09:32:47 +0100 Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:32:45 +0200 (MET DST) From: Bruno Boettcher X-Sender: bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr Reply-To: bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr To: Dan and Tina Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: A question about folders? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Dan and Tina wrote: > ]Can anyone tell me if it is possible to have pine separate out mail such > that if you subscribe to several lists, they can be sorted into separate > folders? I know this already happens with news groups, but I was > wondering if it can be done with email. use deliver or procmail. If You only want to sort out mailing lists i recommend deliver it requires only shell programming skills... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 02:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03436; Wed, 9 Oct 96 02:01:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id BAA23835 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:59:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA23830 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:59:18 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 9 Oct 96 17:04:42 +0800 Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:55:47 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: johnj@gdb.org Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: Pine and X.500 directory. In-Reply-To: <325b5fdc51e2002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 9 Oct 1996 Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com wrote: > I'm not sure what the plans are....but I believe pine4.0 will > eventually support IMSP. If I'm not mistaken...and I could be...IMSP > could be linked with an X.500 directory to provide address information. Sorry....I meant to say ACAP not IMSP. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 02:37:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08782; Wed, 9 Oct 96 02:37:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA16759 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 02:34:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail-gw.t-mi.com (mail-gw.t-mi.com [162.11.243.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA16754 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 02:33:59 -0700 Received: from t-mi.com (162.11.100.51) by mail-gw.t-mi.com (Integralis SMTPRS 1.4) with SMTP id ; Wed, 09 Oct 1996 10:23:11 +0100 Received: from sparc14 by t-mi.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA15278; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:33:46 +0100 Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:31:45 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford Wesley Fulford X-Sender: clifford@sparc14 Reply-To: Clifford Wesley Fulford To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: has mail been read? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There are two customised headers that can be added to a message which might help Laurie. Return-Receipt-To: name@domain This is not guaranteed to work but I find that most mail delivery agents either recognise it and send confirmation of delivery or do not recognise it and send a message saying its delivered the item but it didn't know what to do with this header (which ends being the same from the senders point of view). The other one Read-Receipt-To: whoever@someplace which I guess is closer to what Laurie wants, is dependent on the mail user agent being used by the recipient to read the mail. At best (or worst depending on how you feel about this kind of stuff) if the user agent recognises the header it will confirm that the message has been opened for reading. Simeon for instance will do this. Pine wont. Read receipts can be a very contentious issue though and you will need to take into account that some people are very much opposed to them in principle. Clifford Wesley Fulford _________________________________________________________________________ CBF-International | clifford@t-mi.com | 044 (0)468-003-889 17 Sewdley Street | clifford@cix.compulink.co.uk | 044 (0)181-986-5239 Lea Bridge, E5-0AX. | | 044 (0)171-577-2741 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On 8 Oct 1996, Laurie Fuchs wrote: > > > Is there anyway to know whether or not mail I have sent has been read or > > not? Thanks to anyone that has any information. > > In general, NO. There are some proprietary mail systems which will > do this, but there simply is no way to do it across the Internet. I'm > afraid you're out of luck. Sorry. > > Paul > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA > Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6..2 public key > Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 03:05:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22792; Wed, 9 Oct 96 03:05:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA17133 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 03:02:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA17128 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 03:02:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAvOP-00038BC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 02:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Slaughter Subject: Re: Untitled Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 00:29:13 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: You can try www.whowhere.com. I think that's the right url. If it doesn't work, you can also get to it via www.infoseek.com. It seems to be the best of the email/people finding devices on the net. On 8 Oct 1996, Corey L Williams wrote: > Dear help, > > I am trying to find a persons e-mail address at the University of > Creighton in Omaha, Nebraska. I have tried the finger command and have > been unsuccessful. I was wondering if there was some sort of > compatability problem or maybe I was using the wrong command to search for > this address. If there is some help you can give me in my search for this > e-mail address I would certainly appreciate it. > > Corey Williams > > > -- ~~~^~ `0^0' (* " *) =====ooO====U====Ooo========================= Harry Slaughter @Infoseek Corporation harrys@netgate.net harry@infoseek.com 408.971.0922 408.567.2920 --------------------------------------------- Harry's Homepage: http://www.netgate.net/~harrys Check out the best new engine on the web: .oO() ---> http://ultra.infoseek.com ( ) ()Oo. =======\ (====( )========================== \_) ) / (_/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 03:21:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12681; Wed, 9 Oct 96 03:21:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA24912 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 03:17:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA24907 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 03:17:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAveL-00038BC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 03:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "ATA6 Moetz.E" Subject: Arrival of new mail is not detected?? Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 11:12:53 +0200 Message-Id: <325B6C95.56F7@atc.co.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm trying to use for some days PINE 3.95. When logged in in a remote server (imap2), the arrival of new mails is not detected. To see new incoming mails, I have to logout and login again! I'm using HP-UX 9.05. The mailbox normaly should be kept open constantly. Who can help me? regards Erwin Moetz UNIX-Support E-Mail: moetz@atc.co.at From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 05:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08209; Wed, 9 Oct 96 05:55:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA19276 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 05:48:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA19271 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 05:48:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAxxa-00038BC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 05:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: A question about folders? Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 08:43:38 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Dan and Tina wrote: > ]Can anyone tell me if it is possible to have pine separate out mail such > that if you subscribe to several lists, they can be sorted into separate > folders? I know this already happens with news groups, but I was > wondering if it can be done with email. > thaqnks. To the Fellow Old-Timers on this group: Sigh. We really do need some way of handling the questions that keep coming up over and over and over and over and over again from new people. To Dan and Tina: No, Pine will not do what you want, but other techniques will. If you have a World Wide Web browser, browse my home page and follow the link to Nancy McGough's pages, where she has a lot of useful and informative material on mail filtering. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 06:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08482; Wed, 9 Oct 96 06:37:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA19857 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 06:33:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA19852 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 06:33:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAyhf-00038VC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 06:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pvanschi@sprynet.com (P. van Schijndel) Subject: Pine & Wyse Terminals Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 23:49:56 GMT Message-Id: <539fo3$c0l@juliana.sprynet.com> Hi! We use pine on an RS-6000 running AIX 3.2.5. Our IBM 3151 terminals' arrow keys work properly, but our Wyse 150 terminals do not, forcing us to use control-P, etc. Does anyone else had a similar problem? What was your solution? Phil From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 06:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25562; Wed, 9 Oct 96 06:38:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA27415 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 06:33:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA27410 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 06:33:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAyhe-00038UC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 06:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: RT Subject: error: Who are you? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <3258854D.3B3D@ultinet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 04:21:33 GMT Hi, I am using Solaris 2.4 on Sparc machine and I have problems with pine 3.95. I am able to use pine with no problems. However, some of my users getting the following error when they try to use pine: "Who are you? (Unable to look up login name)" What I have notice is that when I use the Unix command id I get differenet results for the users that have the problems and for myself. Myself I get the id as well as the user name while my users get the id number without the username (login name). I would appreciate any help. Thanks. -- Ram Tanamy Conquer Corporation Ultinet Internet Services ramt@ultinet.com http://www.ultinet.com Voice (718) 462-1100 Fax (718) 693-9598 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 06:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19122; Wed, 9 Oct 96 06:40:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA27422 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 06:33:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA27417 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 06:33:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAyhZ-00038TC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 06:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu (Annelise Anderson) Subject: Local Newsgroup? Date: 6 Oct 1996 20:16:03 GMT Message-Id: <539423$kv0@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I'm trying to set up local newsgroups to read mail from mailing lists with pine or tin, but can't seem to figure out how to do it. tin seems to want the "active" file in /usr/local/lib/news/active (it's not clear if active is supposed to be a directory or a file)-- This is using FreeBSD. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I don't have any problem with pine or tin reading news from an NNTP server. Thanks very much-- Annelise From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 08:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26776; Wed, 9 Oct 96 08:23:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA29392 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 08:14:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id IAA29387 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 08:14:05 -0700 Received: from mailer.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:22:01 +0100 Received: from [144.32.128.9] by mailer.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id OAA09754; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:26:49 +0100 Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 14:26:48 +0100 From: Mike Brudenell Subject: Re: How to display header? To: Thomas Fritz Ramm Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <53b8hr$itt@hermes.acs.unt.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" On 7 Oct 1996 15:44:59 GMT tramm@jove.acs.unt.edu (Thomas Fritz Ramm) wrote: > How can I display the whole "technical" header using Pine3.95? With > "technical" header I mean all the info that shows received by > machine.com > at that time and so forth. 1. Go into the Setup Configuration screen and make sure that "enable-header-command" is selected. 2. Return to index screen and view a message. Type the (now available) "H" command to turn on "full headers". Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:37:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31221; Wed, 9 Oct 96 10:37:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA25516 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:33:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA25511 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:33:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vB2SN-00038BC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 10:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hi Subject: Re: Arrival of new mail is not detected?? Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 02:15:15 +1000 Message-Id: References: <325B6C95.56F7@atc.co.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <325B6C95.56F7@atc.co.at> The syntax is: newmail [-i interval] [-w] [file-spec ...] For example I have in my .cshrc: newmail -i 10 For more details refer to the online manual on newmail. At the unix prompt type: man newmail On Wed, 9 Oct 1996, ATA6 Moetz.E wrote: > I'm trying to use for some days PINE 3.95. > When logged in in a remote server (imap2), the arrival > of new mails is not detected. > To see new incoming mails, I have to logout and login again! > I'm using HP-UX 9.05. > The mailbox normaly should be kept open constantly. > > Who can help me? > > regards > > Erwin Moetz > UNIX-Support > E-Mail: moetz@atc.co.at > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 11:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32481; Wed, 9 Oct 96 11:32:12 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA04671 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 11:28:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rohan.sdsu.edu (rohan.sdsu.edu [130.191.143.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id LAA04664 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 11:28:23 -0700 Received: from localhost (browna@localhost) by rohan.sdsu.edu (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA05626; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 11:14:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 11:14:26 -0700 (PDT) From: brown To: Undisclosed recipients:; Subject: Grand Opening Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anouncing the opening of Arthur (PJ) Brown home page. The address is "http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/home/browna" visit soon. Help whanted I'm am cerintaly belding this home page and would like to here some fead back on how it looks. If you have any links you think I should add just send me a note. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 12:07:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01025; Wed, 9 Oct 96 12:07:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA05602 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 11:58:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA05596 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 11:58:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vB3lr-00038TC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 11:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steven C King Subject: "To: newsgroup" Instead of my Personal Name - Why????? Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:40:42 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I don't know why Pine is doing this. It only does it when I send messages to Usenet, and the message is listed as "To...." instead of with my personal name. I even set empty-header-value in Setup/Config to my personal name, but that didn't work. Is this possible to fix? -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc.} { "The way to do is to be." } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 12:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00990; Wed, 9 Oct 96 12:26:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA28749 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 12:23:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA28744 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 12:23:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vB47I-00038BC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 12:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: spanosa@lys.vnet.net (spanosa) Subject: Executing a script from .forward Date: 9 Oct 1996 02:07:18 GMT Message-Id: <53f1cm$ahb@ralph.vnet.net> I believe it is possible to execute a script from with in the .forward file. I would like to run a script which parses incoming mail messages into separate html files as they arrive. I've tested the script and it works correctly but the only other way I can think of doing it is by running a cron process every now and then. It would be much more elegant though if it could be done on the fly. If this can be done, can anyone tell me what the correct syntax is? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Ari Spanos -- +--------------------+----------------------------------+ | Ari Spanos | Tel: (919) 319-9542 | | 319 W Park Street | Fax: (919) 836-2814 | | Cary NC | Cell:(919) 302-3284 | | 27511 | (919) 302-3286 | | USA | E-mail: spanosa@vnet.net | | | ptolemy@nando.net | +--------------------+----------------------------------+ -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzFfEo4AAAEEAM1KB6nDI2OYC1tyoqediGipl1sj88hyOpF8Sgj502jdHdYY Ds/3Y7G2wSIsMJyAZIpKyzMhp99dsyL/glXR+NsEhR0BSQQy4iSJqNZOI7GYr7cg gpJQDvst+jl9O8c9ou2o/iIlvHFAChYC8oFaekX/uPB0PProJ5T3zXxFchqRAAUR tB5BcmkgU3Bhbm9zIDxwdG9sZW15QG5hbmRvLm5ldD4= =yv3j -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 12:37:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01929; Wed, 9 Oct 96 12:37:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA06572 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 12:32:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from chinet.isdn.wwa.com.isdn.wwa.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA06567 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 12:32:51 -0700 Received: from localhost by chinet.isdn.wwa.com.isdn.wwa.com (8.6.10/SMI-4.1) id TAA25240; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:30:13 GMT Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:30:13 -0500 (CDT) From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: double quotes in To header if there is a "." Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've noticed that the pine composer adds double quotes around the "full name" text (or the portion of the header text that is not the e-mail address) if one of the characters is a ".". Could an unquoted "." misdirect message delivery? Are there other characters that would trigger the use of double quotes? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02568; Wed, 9 Oct 96 13:02:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA07279 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 12:58:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from conciliator.acsu.buffalo.edu (conciliator.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.7.20]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id MAA07273 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 12:58:32 -0700 Received: from workroom.lib.buffalo.edu (workroom.lib.buffalo.edu [128.205.111.9]) by conciliator.acsu.buffalo.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA14569 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 15:58:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <325C2DAA.646F@acsu.buffalo.edu> Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 15:56:42 -0700 From: Michael Kankiewicz X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Marking read or delete "to here" X-Url: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/current/msg00686.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a way to mark messagese for delete *up to a certain point*? Let's say you get half way through a newsgroup, and want to get out, and delete everything up to where you are? Thanks. ----------------------- Michael Kankiewicz Business & Government Documents Lockwood Memorial Library University at Buffalo From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03702; Wed, 9 Oct 96 13:36:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA00895 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:34:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA00890 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:34:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vB5FP-00038TC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 13:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: robinson@fang.dsto.defence.gov.au (Greg Robinson) Subject: Re: make pine not rewrite headers Date: 9 Oct 1996 03:51:03 GMT Message-Id: <53f7f7$ban@fang.dsto.defence.gov.au> References: <53f6jr$ban@fang.dsto.defence.gov.au> Greg Robinson (robinson@fang.dsto.defence.gov.au) wrote: : Hi, : : we have sendmail re-write headers on out going mail, but pine for some : reason insists on doing something which prevents this from happening. : ie. on the final product, it is not working. I dont use pine, I use : the "other" one and it works as extected, on the same machine. I think I've fixed it. I suspect that pine was re-writing the headers and that our sendmail rules didn't understand them and left them un-touched. Thus, incorrect headers. I played with the config and I selected no value for username and for domainname (everything else has no value (or default) as I don't use it). And this works. Hmm... Greg. -- Work: greg.robinson@dsto.defence.gov.au Home: greg@arrakis.satech.net.au From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00084; Wed, 9 Oct 96 13:36:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA08427 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:34:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA08422 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:33:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vB5DR-00038BC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 13:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: robinson@fang.dsto.defence.gov.au (Greg Robinson) Subject: make pine not rewrite headers Date: 9 Oct 1996 03:36:27 GMT Message-Id: <53f6jr$ban@fang.dsto.defence.gov.au> Hi, we have sendmail re-write headers on out going mail, but pine for some reason insists on doing something which prevents this from happening. ie. on the final product, it is not working. I dont use pine, I use the "other" one and it works as extected, on the same machine. Any clues? Greg. -- Work: greg.robinson@dsto.defence.gov.au Home: greg@arrakis.satech.net.au From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25064; Wed, 9 Oct 96 13:43:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA08645 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:39:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA08640 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:39:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vB5Ig-00038BC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 13:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: timr@crl.com (Tim Rice) Subject: Re: missing file? someone please help! Date: 5 Oct 1996 14:17:57 -0700 Message-Id: <536ja5$j0o@crl12.crl.com> References: John C. Musselman (john@zone.jcm.com) wrote: : Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. : i recently ftp'd pine3.95.tar.gz from ftp.cac.washington.edu : and attempted to compile it for isc (interactive unix). : i ran into the following problem: : in the pine directory, in the makefile.isc, there is a reference to : osdep/iscextra, however this file does not exist in the tar of 3.95 or 3.94. I think the sources have changed so you don't need it anymore, update your makefile. In case you really do need it, here it is from 3.92 /*---------------------------------------------------------------------- Truncate a file to a specified length. ISC doesn't have this function. This does nothing. It isn't very important, and we can't help anyway if we don't have a real truncate. ----------------------------------------------------------------------*/ truncate(path, length) char *path; int length; { } : Can you please help? The program appears to really need this to compile :) : thank you very much : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- : john@jcm.com The elevator to success is broken today.... : John C. Musselman You'll have to take the steps... one at a time. : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- -- Tim Rice Multitalents 707 887-1469 tim@trr.metro.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:53:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03743; Wed, 9 Oct 96 13:53:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA01393 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:49:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA01384 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:48:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vB5Sg-00038BC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 13:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Christine Bexley Subject: Newsgroup message troubles Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 11:45:46 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi. I'm having a problem with receiving mail from certain newsgroups. I tried unsubscribing, then subscribing again and in all cases it read "0 messages." The newsgroups I subscibe to are "rec.arts.theatre.musicals" which ALWAYS has hundreds of messages, "alt.music.a-cappella," "rec.music.a-cappella," and "alt.tv.er." I am getting messages from this group now, but I wondered why not the other groups I was subscibed to. This has been going on for a few days now and I'm very confused. I tried posting to one of the groups and the next time I checked, my message didn't appear. Any explainations are greatly appreciated! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Christine Bexley | Binghamton University | "The opposite of war isn't peace; Program Director: Generation Gap | it's creation." G-Gap *for all your Doo-Wop needs | -RENT bd27445@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu | >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 15:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05744; Wed, 9 Oct 96 15:21:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA11446 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 15:19:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA11441 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 15:19:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vB6u8-00038UC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 15:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ahk@chinet.chinet.com (Adam H. Kerman) Subject: Re: Carriage return in PICO Date: 9 Oct 1996 16:57:27 -0500 Message-Id: <53h747$qpo@chinet.chinet.com> References: <5393ui$h1n@news.cyberenet.net> <539tei$quh@chinet.chinet.com> <53be0i$668@pshrink.chi.il.us> <53gv11$106@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> In article <53gv11$106@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu>, Tim Mooney wrote: >In article <53be0i$668@pshrink.chi.il.us>, >Steven King wrote: >> Adam H. Kerman wrote: >> Again, it's no >> big deal to convert, but then again it would be no big deal to write Pine >> to handle it itself... >And it shouldn't be any big deal to just transfer it in ASCII mode rather >than in binary mode. If you ever use `ftp', this is an important thing to >remember so it's something you may need to be thinking about anyway. [Nothing that I had written earlier remains in your citation!] This isn't an ASCII vs. binary transfer issue. He is making an ASCII transfer. The trouble is the ASCII character used for the line boundary on Unix systems (New Line, 010) is meaningless on the Mac, his home computer. Macs require a Carriage Return, 013. A simple search and replace operation will solve his problem at home. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26241; Wed, 9 Oct 96 16:43:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA05917 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:39:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA05908 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:39:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vB89V-00038TC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 16:35 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Abhay Roy Subject: X-Authentication-Warning ... Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 15:17:12 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Any clues on this warning message ? I tried running the binary with my uid, and setuid (with root ownership). Still the same .. From akr@cisco.com Mon Oct 7 15:11:16 1996 X-Authentication-Warning: rabhay-ss20.cisco.com: akr owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 15:09:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Abhay Roy To: Abhay Roy Subject: test . Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Regards, -Roy- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 17:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07417; Wed, 9 Oct 96 17:21:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA14388 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 17:14:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA14383 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 17:14:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vB8en-00038BC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 17:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jerome Pimmel Subject: sending mail to newsgroups using sendmail Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 11:55:01 +0100 Message-Id: <3254ED05.3AD9@delphi.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am looking for a scripting utility of some sort that will let me send mail to newsgroups using sendmail.. i have seen pine do this, but I have been told it logs into port 119 and does a lot of stuff behind the scenes.. i know you cant specify a newsgroup in sendmail and expect it to get there... that doesnt work... i have been told there are some scripts/utils out there that let you interface mail to news, and despite searching tons of search engines I can find any.... any ideas? jxe ----------------------------------- ``How did it get so late so soon? Its night before its afternoon. December is here before its June. My goodness how the time has flewn. How did it get so late so soon?'' -Dr. Seuss ----------------------------------- fruit.ninja@delphi.co.uk (0171) 782 4767 (0802) 629360 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 17:29:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31471; Wed, 9 Oct 96 17:29:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA14592 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 17:24:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA14587 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 17:24:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vB8oX-00038TC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 17:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Ishee Subject: Re: Incoming Folders Date: 08 Oct 1996 15:25:06 -0500 Message-Id: References: <52u8o8$337@news.kth.se> d92-msa@dront.nada.kth.se (Magnus Sandberg) writes: > I am using procmail to sort incoming mail and I'm trying to use > 'Incoming Message Folders' feature in Pine . I use 'A' to add a new folder, > pressing return on 'remote server' and stating a path to the > folder (ex. ~d92-msa/incoming-mail/abc_list). So far so good. > I can access all my messages but it's immpossible to use TAB to get > to the next New message. What do I do wrong? You have to enable the tab feature in setup->config. -- David +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | David Ishee ishee@erc.msstate.edu | | Mechanical Engineering Senior | | Mississippi State University OS/2 and Linux user | | | | "I'd explain it, but there's a lot of math." -- Calvin. | | | +------------- http://www2.msstate.edu/~dmi1/index.html -------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 17:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31448; Wed, 9 Oct 96 17:30:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA07220 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 17:24:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA07215 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 17:24:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vB8oR-00038BC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 17:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aeulenbe@ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu (Alex Eulenberg) Subject: Corrupted addressbook Date: 8 Oct 1996 17:46:52 GMT Message-Id: <53e42c$ohj@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> I am a telephone consultant for unix at the university. Today someone called and said that when he typed in an addressbook nickname in the To: field, he got the name, and then lots of asterisks and the word "loop" somewhere in there. I told him to delete every entry and start over again. Then I did some experimenting myself. I was unable to corrupt the file on my account, which I believe must have been .addressbook.lu, successfully. However, I did notice that if .addressbook.lu is deleted, Pine rebuilds it. The question I have, then, is, is it good advice to tell people to delete their .addressbook.lu file if their addressbook is corrupted as described above? --Alex From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 17:53:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09563; Wed, 9 Oct 96 17:53:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA15040 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 17:47:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA15035 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 17:47:24 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 10 Oct 96 08:52:44 +0800 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:46:11 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko To: "Adam H. Kerman" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: double quotes in To header if there is a "." In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 9 Oct 1996, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > I've noticed that the pine composer adds double quotes around the "full name" > text (or the portion of the header text that is not the e-mail address) if one > of the characters is a ".". Could an unquoted "." misdirect message delivery? > Are there other characters that would trigger the use of double quotes? Please read RFC822. This will tell you all (well mostly all) you need to know about what is legal in email addresses. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 18:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09641; Wed, 9 Oct 96 18:06:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA07903 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 17:59:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA07898 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 17:59:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vB9Nv-00038TC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 17:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Goldarg Subject: posting to self moderated groups Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 17:55:43 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do I use pine to post to a self moderated newsgroup? +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ! 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If so Mail me with your Questions. | +/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/^\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05697; Wed, 9 Oct 96 19:59:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA09858 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:52:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from emerald.tufts.edu (emerald.tufts.edu [130.64.5.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id TAA09853 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:52:21 -0700 Received: from localhost (sbailey2@localhost) by emerald.tufts.edu (8.7.6/8.7.6) with SMTP id WAA27361 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:52:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:52:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Bailey To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: I requre assistance. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello I would like to know how I Change my password> Everytime i select setup and then hit (N) for newpassword it goes blank and acts as though I never selected the setup command. It acts like im on the main menue. Thank you for your time. love stephen Bailey From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 20:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31066; Wed, 9 Oct 96 20:30:12 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA17819 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 20:24:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA17811 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 20:24:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBBf0-00038UC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 20:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: How do I save to a file? Date: 9 Oct 1996 14:13:03 -0500 Message-Id: <53gtfv$st@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: <52rj83$rao@fnord.dfw.net> <3257E7E9.7115@telis.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <3257E7E9.7115@telis.org>, Kathleen wrote: > > My provider only lets us have Pine or Lynx through a menu, we cannot > access the UNIX prompt. Somehow there must be a way to get mail onto our > own hard drives from within Pine itself? Recent versions of pine support the download-command and download-command-prefix in the config screen. Basically it appears to be a way to have pine start the appropriate command (sz, sx, kermit, etc) for you automatically when you use Export. If your ISP provides something like Zmodem and has a recent enough version of pine you should be able to configure pine to download email using these options. Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10033; Wed, 9 Oct 96 21:01:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA10754 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 20:54:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA10749 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 20:54:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBC8J-00038BC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 20:50 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Aamer Sachedina <3as64@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: How to change the default Reply To: Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 23:40:41 -0300 Message-Id: <325C6229.79903AB2@qlink.queensu.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, How do I change the From: field that Pine sends out, or the default Reply To: that the recipient of my messages gets. This is because my setup send mail out as if it is coming from "root@my.isp's.domail" but my real email address is "aamer@...." I am only root on my local machine. Thanks a lot, Aamer _______________________________________________ Aamer Sachedina I'm Linuxed DB2 Development, Platform Services IBM Toronto Lab. Email: Business: aamer@vnet.ibm.com Personal: aamer@io.org _______________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:50:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11554; Wed, 9 Oct 96 21:50:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA11562 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:44:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA11557 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:44:45 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 10 Oct 96 12:50:02 +0800 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:43:30 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: Aamer Sachedina <3as64@qlink.queensu.ca> Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to change the default Reply To: In-Reply-To: <325C6229.79903AB2@qlink.queensu.ca> Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 9 Oct 1996, Aamer Sachedina wrote: > How do I change the From: field that Pine sends out, > or the default Reply To: that the recipient of my > messages gets. > > This is because my setup send mail out as if it > is coming from "root@my.isp's.domail" but my > real email address is "aamer@...." I am only root > on my local machine. You can change the behaviour of pine.... However, it sounds is if your basic problem needs solving. If your are logging in as "aamer@foo.bar.com" then your mail should go out as "aamer@foo.bar.com". It should never go out as either "root@foo.bar.com" or "root@isp.domain.com". You should discuss this situation with your ISP. I don't know how you are connected with you ISP but I've seen this sort of thing with mis-configured combinations of sendmail and UUCP. I *strongly* suggest you fix the underlying problem rather than maksing it with adjusting the behaviour of pine. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:00:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11994; Wed, 9 Oct 96 22:00:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA19246 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:53:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from agrashak.cpg.com.au (agrashak.cpg.com.au [138.79.128.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA19232 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:53:05 -0700 Received: from setanta.snetme.cpg.com.au (setanta.snetme.cpg.com.au [138.79.180.10]) by agrashak.cpg.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA05444 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:52:01 +1000 Received: from pcms1131.snetme.cpg.com.au (pcms1131.snetme.cpg.com.au [138.79.180.131]) by setanta.snetme.cpg.com.au (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA31525 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:56:31 +1000 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:56:31 +1000 Message-Id: <199610100456.OAA31525@setanta.snetme.cpg.com.au> X-Sender: dp37527@setanta.snetme.cpg.com.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Daniel Subject: info? please send info on latest releases. ***************************************************************************** * THIS MESSAGE WAS SENT BY : * ***************************************************************************** Daniel Power CPTI Student 15 Elenya Court Frankston North 3200 Victoria Australia From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13199; Wed, 9 Oct 96 22:31:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA19794 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:29:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA19789 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:29:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBDdk-00038BC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 22:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Steven King" Subject: Re: Carriage return in PICO Date: 7 Oct 1996 17:18:10 GMT Message-Id: <53be0i$668@pshrink.chi.il.us> References: <5393ui$h1n@news.cyberenet.net> <539tei$quh@chinet.chinet.com> Adam H. Kerman wrote: >Text files in Unix and DOS use different end-of-line conventions. Unix >uses a "New Line" character (same as LF in DOS). DOS (and CP/M) uses 2 >characters, a Carriage Return and Line Feed at the end of each line. The >Mac uses only a CR. On a related note, would it be too much for the Development Gods to allow Pine to accept either end-of-line convention in its own files? I just got my wife up and running on PC-Pine, and we copied her addressbook from the Unix box where she had been working. PC-Pine couldn't make any sense of it. All I had to do was convert the end-of-line from Unix's LF to DOS's CRLF pair, so it wasn't a big deal. Still, this is something that could be handled internally to Pine without too much trouble. Out of curiosity, does PC-Pine handle Unix newlines in mail folders? I haven't tried copying over all her old mail folders yet. Again, it's no big deal to convert, but then again it would be no big deal to write Pine to handle it itself... -- ------------------------------------------ "This paperclip will serve as an antenna, grabbing neutrinos from the cosmos and providing ignition for this craft." "Astonishing, Brain! Um, will it also roast marshmallows?" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:51:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07320; Wed, 9 Oct 96 22:51:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA12566 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:50:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA12558 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:50:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBDwD-00038BC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 22:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: FAQs (was: Re: A question about folders?) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:38:29 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 9 Oct 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > To the Fellow Old-Timers on this group: Sigh. We really do need some > way of handling the questions that keep coming up over and over and > over and over and over again from new people. > We are now posting the "top 10" Pine FAQs monthly. Do you think it would help to post it more often? Are there any other changes that would make it more useful? --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08835; Wed, 9 Oct 96 22:52:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA20151 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:50:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA20131 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:50:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBDwE-00038TC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 22:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Corrupted addressbook Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:45:51 -0700 Message-Id: References: <53e42c$ohj@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <53e42c$ohj@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> On 8 Oct 1996, Alex Eulenberg wrote: > I am a telephone consultant for unix at the university. Today someone > called and said that when he typed in an addressbook nickname in the To: > field, he got the name, and then lots of asterisks and the word "loop" > somewhere in there. I told him to delete every entry and start over > again. This message means that Pine found a loop when it tried to expand a nickname. Trace through the expansions and you should find the error... > > Then I did some experimenting myself. I was unable to corrupt the file on > my account, which I believe must have been .addressbook.lu, successfully. > However, I did notice that if .addressbook.lu is deleted, Pine rebuilds > it. The .addressbook.lu file contains a hash table that Pine uses to speed up searches, particularly for large addressbooks. If Pine finds it to be older than the .addressbook file or missing, it rebuilds the file. > > The question I have, then, is, is it good advice to tell people to delete > their .addressbook.lu file if their addressbook is corrupted as described > above? Deleting the .lu file should not do anything except make Pine rebuild it. I would not expect it to solve the problem described above. > > --Alex > > --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29900; Wed, 9 Oct 96 22:52:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA12576 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:50:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA12571 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:50:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBDwF-00038UC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 22:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 & Metamail Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:51:58 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, mikeh wrote: > I recently installed Pine 3.95 and I'm wondering if I can use metamail > with it. > Pine has most of the functionality of metamail built-in. It reads the same mailcap files.... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 23:27:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21067; Wed, 9 Oct 96 23:27:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA20586 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 23:25:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA20581 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 23:25:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBEVR-00038BC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 23:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: Re: Problem with 'personal name'. Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 14:50:48 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > Hello all, > When I want to post a message to a newsgroup I use my personal name > which is butterfly. Usually (with the old version of pine), upon posting, > what others see when they look at my message in the index is my personal > name and the subject of the message. This time, after posting, my > personal name did not appear. Instead, it said, "To: 'newsgroup name'" > and the subject. > Could you please tell me how to configure my account so that when I post > a message my personal name appears again. I have the exact same question, with the additional problem of having no idea how to specify a 'personal name' in the first place.. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 23:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32208; Wed, 9 Oct 96 23:46:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA13250 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 23:45:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA13245 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 23:45:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBEmo-00038BC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 23:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Reclaiming INBOX lock Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 18:10:02 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there anyway to reclaim the inbox lock short of exiting and restarting pine? -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14514; Thu, 10 Oct 96 01:03:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA14237 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:00:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA14232 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:00:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBFvW-00038VC; Thu, 10 Oct 96 00:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steve Howie Subject: Re: How to get INBOX on starting ??? Date: 6 Oct 1996 12:41:57 GMT Message-Id: <5389el$9o5@ccshst05.uoguelph.ca> References: <52u2lf$16i@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Harry Slaughter wrote: : Put an "i" in your "initial-keystrokes-list" in your configuration. Or type "pine -i" from the command line : On 2 Oct 1996, Patrick M. McMillin wrote: : > How do I configure my pine to go directly to : > inbox upon starting the porgram ? : > -- Scotty ================================================================= Steve Howie Email: showie@uoguelph.ca NetNews and Listserv Admin. Phone: (519) 824-4120 x2556 Computing and Communications Svcs. Fax: (519) 763-6143 University of Guelph If it's not Scottish its CRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP ================================================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10006; Thu, 10 Oct 96 01:35:12 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA22247 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:31:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from doe.ellink.ru (doe.ellink.ru [194.220.202.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id BAA22242 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:31:29 -0700 Received: (from mike@localhost) by doe.ellink.ru (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA00272 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:31:28 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:31:28 +0300 (MSK) From: Michael Kotov Message-Id: <199610100931.MAA00272@doe.ellink.ru> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu unsubscribe pine-info From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15092; Thu, 10 Oct 96 01:44:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA22341 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:38:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id BAA22336 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:38:21 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:33:10 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA15554; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:37:58 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:37:57 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Adam H. Kerman" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Carriage return in PICO In-Reply-To: <53h747$qpo@chinet.chinet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Ummm.... I think I disagree with your assertion that "This isn't an ASCII vs. binary transfer issue"... A "binary" transfer copies over a file's content byte for byte, which is necessary for binary data files such as images but useless for text files unless both source and destination computer systems share the same end-of-line conventions. In contrast an "ascii" transfer converts the line ending used by the source computer into a standard form (what character(s) get used for this I admit I forget/never knew). The receiving computer spots each of these standard endings and converts them into its own (possibly different) line ending. This makes it possible to exchange files using ascii ftp transfers between such diverse systems as: * UNIX (line feed only at line end) * Macintosh (carriage return only at line end) * PC (carriage return + linefeed at line end) * VMS (a 2-byte line length count followed by data, possibly including both carriage return and/or line feed characters!) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 9 Oct 1996, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > In article <53gv11$106@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu>, > Tim Mooney wrote: > >In article <53be0i$668@pshrink.chi.il.us>, > >Steven King wrote: > >> Adam H. Kerman wrote: > > >> Again, it's no > >> big deal to convert, but then again it would be no big deal to write Pine > >> to handle it itself... > > >And it shouldn't be any big deal to just transfer it in ASCII mode rather > >than in binary mode. If you ever use `ftp', this is an important thing to > >remember so it's something you may need to be thinking about anyway. > > [Nothing that I had written earlier remains in your citation!] > > This isn't an ASCII vs. binary transfer issue. He is making an ASCII > transfer. The trouble is the ASCII character used for the line boundary on > Unix systems (New Line, 010) is meaningless on the Mac, his home computer. > Macs require a Carriage Return, 013. > > A simple search and replace operation will solve his problem at home. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 02:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15311; Thu, 10 Oct 96 02:30:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA22761 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 02:15:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id CAA22748 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 02:15:10 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:10:03 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA24832; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:14:57 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:14:56 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: Michael Kankiewicz Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Marking read or delete "to here" In-Reply-To: <325C2DAA.646F@acsu.buffalo.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Two ways of doing this for Usenet News (or ordinary mail folders)... * The usual way is to delete the messages as you read through them (ie, use the "D" command to "finish with" a message and advance to the next). But if you don't do this and want to mark them "deleted" retrospectively... * First make sure you have the "aggregate-command-set" feature enabled in Pine's Setup Configuration screen. Now open the folder and start working through it. At some point, when you want to break off, you can give a series of keystrokes like this: ; N ... Select messages based on their message number 1-32 ... Choose message whose numbers (within the folder listing) are 1 to 32 inclusive. A D ... Apply a "Delete" command to the selected messages Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 9 Oct 1996, Michael Kankiewicz wrote: > Is there a way to mark messagese for delete *up to a certain point*? > Let's say you get half way through a newsgroup, and want to get out, and > delete everything up to where you are? Thanks. > > ----------------------- > Michael Kankiewicz > Business & Government Documents > Lockwood Memorial Library > University at Buffalo > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 05:50:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16367; Thu, 10 Oct 96 05:50:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA17651 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 05:43:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lex.lccc.edu (lex.lccc.edu [198.139.135.128]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA17646 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 05:43:43 -0700 Received: (asc0@localhost) by lex.lccc.edu (8.6.8.1/SCA-6.6) id MAA11333; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:45:42 GMT Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:45:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Anna Colosi To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: printing from pine (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Anna Colosi $ Director of Instructional Technology $ Lehigh Carbon Community College $ Schnecksville, PA 18078 $ (610)799-1591 $ fax (610)799-1527 $ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:38:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Anna Colosi To: pine-info@cac.wahington.edu Subject: printing from pine I just installed 3.95 on my sco unix machine. I use various telent programs to telnet to my unix server. Some work stations can print from within pine and others can't. Even among machines that use the same software (Lanworkplace), some can print and others can't. I have config set at print to ansi. Please help $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Anna Colosi $ Director of Instructional Technology $ Lehigh Carbon Community College $ Schnecksville, PA 18078 $ (610)799-1591 $ fax (610)799-1527 $ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 06:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17368; Thu, 10 Oct 96 06:55:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA25936 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 06:51:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA25931 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 06:51:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBLSY-00038BC; Thu, 10 Oct 96 06:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zach@world.std.com Subject: Re: sendmail problems on HP-UX Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:24:03 GMT If I reverse the order in my /etc/hosts file to read: neptune.radionics.com neptune then refreeze and restart sendmail, mail coming into my pine keeps the full name. So it seems my sendmail has become very dependent on the state of my /etc/hosts during the freezing and I don't know why. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 07:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14904; Thu, 10 Oct 96 07:15:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA26144 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 07:05:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from litton.net (master.litton.net [159.201.17.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA26139 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 07:05:31 -0700 Received: from littongcs.com by litton.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA04153; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 07:06:24 -0700 Received: from cie0.littongcs.com by littongcs.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA28025; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 07:06:27 -0700 Received: from loo.littongcs.com by cie0.littongcs.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA29521; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 07:06:10 -0700 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 07:06:57 -0700 () From: Joseph Loo Reply-To: Joseph Loo To: 3as64@qlink.queensu.ca Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: re: How to change the default Reply To Message-Id: X-X-Sender: loo@cie_0.littongcs.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Aamer, Go into your configuration program and change the user-id and user-domain. This will alter your reply to fields. If you use the help button, it will explain what it does. Joseph Loo Litton Guidance & Control 19601 Nordhoff St. N86 Northridge, CA 91324-2422 (818) 886-2211 x2336 loo@littongcs.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 07:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18645; Thu, 10 Oct 96 07:51:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA19417 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 07:46:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA19412 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 07:46:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBMJU-00038TC; Thu, 10 Oct 96 07:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: showie@uoguelph.ca (Steve Howie) Subject: Re: Pine and X.500 directory. Date: 9 Oct 1996 22:06:14 GMT Message-Id: <53h7km$ns@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <325b5fdc51e2002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> nobody@psg.com wrote: : In article : you wrote: : > Our project is looking at using an X.500 server to simplify sending : > email (easy to find a user over several different lans etc.) : > : > I was wondering how a pine user would take advantage of the availabilty : > of the X.500 server? : > : > Would the global addressbook be re-loaded from the server, or can : > searching an addressbook (^T) in compose mode quickly access such : > a service? I wrote some interface code for Pine which allows you to query a local CSO nameserver while in the addressbook of Pine. It's been running for over a year with no problems. You may want to take a look at it as a prototype. Email me for code if you're interested. (be warned - it's "sledgehammer-grade" code :)) : At the moment you'd have to do a directory sync between the : X.500 directory and the global addressbook. Currently pine does not : support LDAP, ph, or other protocols which could directly interface : with X.500. : I'm not sure what the plans are....but I believe pine4.0 will : eventually support IMSP. If I'm not mistaken...and I could be...IMSP : could be linked with an X.500 directory to provide address information. -- Scotty ================================================================= Steve Howie Email: showie@uoguelph.ca NetNews and Listserv Admin. Phone: (519) 824-4120 x2556 Computing and Communications Svcs. Fax: (519) 763-6143 University of Guelph If it's not Scottish its CRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP ================================================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18239; Thu, 10 Oct 96 08:08:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA19803 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:04:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bluejay.creighton.edu (bluejay.creighton.edu [147.134.2.20]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id IAA19798; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:04:16 -0700 Message-Id: <199610101504.IAA19798@mx1.cac.washington.edu> Received: by bluejay.creighton.edu (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA079239854; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:04:14 -0500 From: Larry Sheldon Subject: Dummy needs help fast. (fwd) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, pine@cac.washington.edu Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:04:14 CDT X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 112.6] > > HP 9000 running HP-UX 10.01. Dummy committed to machine being available > tommorrow for teacher training at a local high-school. Dummy let the > one local person who actually understands what he is doing go on vacation > and be out-of-touch. > > Dummy is paniced > > Mail system seems to work--messages can be sent from and received on the > machine using "elm". > > Messages can be read using "pine". > > Attempts to send messages from machine using "pine" result in: > > [Error sending: 553 Local configuration error, hostname not recognized as lo] > /usr/local/lib/pine.conf seems to be the same as on a similar machine > where it all works. > > Is there any hope for Dummy? > > -- > -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- > . . > - L. F. (Larry) Sheldon, Jr. - > . Unix Systems and Network Administration . > - Creighton University Computer Center-Old Gym - > . 2500 California Plaza . > - Omaha, Nebraska, U.S.A. 68178 Speak softly and sweetly. - > . lsheldon@creighton.edu If your words are soft and sweet, . > - 402 280-2254 (work) they won't be as hard to - > . 402 681-4726 (cellular) swallow when you have to eat them. . > - 402 977-2946 (pager) - > . 402 332-4622 (residence) Bits and Pieces . > - - > .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. > -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- . . - L. F. (Larry) Sheldon, Jr. - . Unix Systems and Network Administration . - Creighton University Computer Center-Old Gym - . 2500 California Plaza . - Omaha, Nebraska, U.S.A. 68178 Speak softly and sweetly. - . lsheldon@creighton.edu If your words are soft and sweet, . - 402 280-2254 (work) they won't be as hard to - . 402 681-4726 (cellular) swallow when you have to eat them. . - 402 977-2946 (pager) - . 402 332-4622 (residence) Bits and Pieces . - - .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16893; Thu, 10 Oct 96 08:23:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA20261 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:21:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id IAA20256 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:21:21 -0700 From: msw@mailya.yakima.com Received: from uucp1.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp1.UU.NET [192.48.96.32]) id QQbkvl06218; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:21:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailya.UUCP by uucp1.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:21:19 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by mailya.yakima.com id AA844959952 Thu, 10 Oct 96 08:05:52 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 96 08:05:52 Message-Id: <9609108449.AA844959952@mailya.yakima.com> To: "Pine email discussion group" Subject: Pine on AIX UNIX v4.1 I was finally able to get a good compile of Pine on my AIX 4.1 machine, but only after some rather serious alteration of several Pine source files. Somehow, I doubt that I should have done this, but since this is (for now at least) a test machine ... Anyway, the problem appears to be related to the way comments in some source files are handled. At least that's what the "C" compiler seemed to be complaining about. For example, in the /pine3.95/pine/osdep/os-a41.h file, several comment lines appear like this: /* #include /* BSD-based systems */ As far as I understand comment lines in "C" source code, the delimiters are the /* and */ sequences. However, in many lines like the one above, two left-hand delimiters occur prior to a single right-hand one. The only way I was able to get Pine to properly "build" (compile) was to alter these comments by removing the second left-hand delimiter. After making this change, the compiles seemed to go without a problem. However, I noticed that the file sizes ended up dramatically different on AIX 4.1 compared to AIX 3.2.5. For example, after compiling all programs on AIX 3.2.5, the binary files created were: $ ls -l total 21768 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 1717607 Sep 8 18:34 imapd -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 1557523 Sep 8 18:34 mtest -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 861076 Sep 8 18:34 pico -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 858637 Sep 8 18:34 pilot -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 6137198 Sep 8 18:34 pine $ but on the AIX 4.1 system, the same binary files looked like this: $ ls -l total 10936 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root audit 1054577 Oct 5 07:42 imapd -rwxr-xr-x 1 root audit 1013146 Oct 5 07:42 mtest -rwxr-xr-x 1 root audit 291237 Oct 5 07:42 pico -rwxr-xr-x 1 root audit 289062 Oct 5 07:42 pilot -rwxr-xr-x 1 root audit 2938894 Oct 5 07:42 pine $ Despite the differences in file sizes, Pine on the AIX 4.1 system seems to work just fine. Hmmmm. My questions are: 1. If alteration of the source code comment lines is NOT the proper way to get around the compilation failures, what is the proper method? 2. If the resulting binary files are not the proper sizes, what happened? Thank you for any comments you may have. - Michael ------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Wright, Systems Analyst email: msw@yakima.com Yakima Products, Inc. Ph: 707-826-8175 P.O. Box 4899, Arcata, CA 95521 (USA) Fx: 707-826-8149 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06298; Thu, 10 Oct 96 08:51:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA28288 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:47:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dasher.csd.sc.edu (dasher.csd.sc.edu [129.252.41.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA28283 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:47:39 -0700 From: matt@dasher.csd.sc.edu Received: (from matt@localhost) by dasher.csd.sc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA69231; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:45:21 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:45:20 -0400 (EDT) To: pine Subject: UNIX to Linux switch Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We are currently running Pine 3.91 on an IBM RS/6000 with AIX 3.2. We may be losing access to the IBM and are investigating the possibility of moving our freenet and Pine software to a Linux run PC. Is it possible to switch Pine from one system to another? Or does the original UNIX compilation make that impossible? Would we be better off getting a newer version and compiling it for Linux? Our tech support goes with the IBM, so please excuse these questions if they are obvious to you, I'm an administrator not a programmer. Matthew Penn matt@dasher.csd.sc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:21:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18003; Thu, 10 Oct 96 09:21:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA29436 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:17:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA29431 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:17:34 -0700 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 11 Oct 96 00:22:59 +0800 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 00:22:59 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: matt@dasher.csd.sc.edu Cc: pine Subject: Re: UNIX to Linux switch In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 10 Oct 1996 matt@dasher.csd.sc.edu wrote: > We are currently running Pine 3.91 on an IBM RS/6000 with AIX 3.2. We may > be losing access to the IBM and are investigating the possibility of > moving our freenet and Pine software to a Linux run PC. Is it possible to > switch Pine from one system to another? Or does the original UNIX > compilation make that impossible? Would we be better off getting a newer > version and compiling it for Linux? Our tech support goes with the > IBM, so please excuse these questions if they are obvious to you, I'm an > administrator not a programmer. You are runnnig pine3.91. The current and much better version is pine3.95. The binary for AIX is not compatible with LINUX. Therefore, you are advised to get the latest source for pine and recompile. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:22:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21845; Thu, 10 Oct 96 09:22:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA21615 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:12:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA21606 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:12:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBNed-00038TC; Thu, 10 Oct 96 09:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dean Pentcheff Subject: Re: FAQs (was: Re: A question about folders?) Date: 10 Oct 1996 05:03:38 -0400 Message-Id: References: David L Miller writes: > On Wed, 9 Oct 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > > To the Fellow Old-Timers on this group: Sigh. We really do need some > > way of handling the questions that keep coming up over and over and > > over and over and over again from new people. > > We are now posting the "top 10" Pine FAQs monthly. Do you think it > would help to post it more often? Are there any other changes that > would make it more useful? YES! I'd recommend following the lead of some other high-traffic groups I read often (e.g. comp.lang.perl.misc and several comp.infosystems.www... groups). Post a relatively short document daily (yes, daily) with the Top-10 FAQs and pointers to more information (and a prominent request to check those sources first before posting to the group). Realistically, the "problem posts" don't come from people who've been reading the group for a few weeks (and are therefore likely to have seen a once-a-month posting). They come from people who haven't read the newsgroup at all. If the post is given a "supercedes" header, no one will ever see more than one copy of the FAQ, but it will _always_ be there in the newsgroup. Anyone who feels that daily posting of a FAQ list is "wasting net bandwidth" should consider that if such a posting squelches only two queries per day, it has already paid for its passage. -Dean -- N. Dean Pentcheff WWW: http://tbone.biol.sc.edu/~dean/ Biological Sciences, Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29208 (803-777-3936) PGP ID=768/22A1A015 Keyprint=2D 53 87 53 72 4A F2 83 A0 BF CB C0 D1 0E 76 C0 Get PGP keys and information with the command: "finger dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21963; Thu, 10 Oct 96 10:00:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA22869 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:55:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bluejay.creighton.edu (bluejay.creighton.edu [147.134.2.20]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id JAA22864; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:55:39 -0700 Message-Id: <199610101655.JAA22864@mx1.cac.washington.edu> Received: by bluejay.creighton.edu (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA159456537; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:55:37 -0500 From: Larry Sheldon Subject: Dummy got help fast!! To: luomat@nerc3.nerc.com, mikes@cac.washington.edu Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:55:37 CDT Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, jduche@bluejay.creighton.edu, jcr@bluejay.creighton.edu, hamersky@bluejay.creighton.edu, hamersky@gross.creighton.edu X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 112.6] Thanks very much. Timothy Luoma and Michael Seibel jumped right on the problem and pointed me right at the cause. I had not looked at /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed--thinking "fixed" meant "repaired". On the machines where "pine" works, that file (....fixed) had a line that pointed "smtp-server" (through a CNAME) to our mail machine. On the machine where "pine" did not work, the "pine" wizard had entered a line that pointed to the machine it was on. I made it look like the others, and "pine" now seems to be its normal useful self. You folks may not be able to fully appreciate just how grateful I am. -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- . . - L. F. (Larry) Sheldon, Jr. - . Unix Systems and Network Administration . - Creighton University Computer Center-Old Gym - . 2500 California Plaza . - Omaha, Nebraska, U.S.A. 68178 Speak softly and sweetly. - . lsheldon@creighton.edu If your words are soft and sweet, . - 402 280-2254 (work) they won't be as hard to - . 402 681-4726 (cellular) swallow when you have to eat them. . - 402 977-2946 (pager) - . 402 332-4622 (residence) Bits and Pieces . - - .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06973; Thu, 10 Oct 96 10:22:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA23444 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:16:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA23439 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:16:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBOe7-00038TC; Thu, 10 Oct 96 10:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dean Pentcheff Subject: Re: PGP & Pine -- another solution? Date: 10 Oct 1996 05:11:42 -0400 Message-Id: References: Anthony Towns writes: ... > I've got a slightly different solution, which uses Richard Gooch's > PGPsendmail package (which is a Unix only thing, AFAIK). pgpsendmail > includes a program called pgpdaemon which sets up some named pipes and, > after you've sent it your passphrase, signs, and decrypts mail for you. > > I've written some extra programs (to go with Mr Gooch's pgppipe which > decrypts mail), namely pgpsign (which clearsigns stdin to stdout) and > pgpencrypt (which encrypts and signs stdin to stdout). Hmmmm... I was considering writing something similar myself (getting awfully tired of retyping my passphrase for every single outgoing email, and not thrilled about that passphrase going unencrypted across our network here). But if you've done the work, I'd be delighted to parasitize it. Care to post the code, or a pointer to it? Thanks! -Dean -- N. Dean Pentcheff WWW: http://tbone.biol.sc.edu/~dean/ Biological Sciences, Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29208 (803-777-3936) PGP ID=768/22A1A015 Keyprint=2D 53 87 53 72 4A F2 83 A0 BF CB C0 D1 0E 76 C0 Get PGP keys and information with the command: "finger dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:29:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25662; Thu, 10 Oct 96 11:29:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA25252 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:18:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from simon.ipc.org (IPC.ORG [168.113.24.64]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA25246 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:18:24 -0700 Received: from ipc.org by simon.ipc.org via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for id NAA17768; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 13:13:12 -0700 Received: by ipc.org (Smail3.1.28.1 #2) id m0vBOsj-0000RjC; Thu, 10 Oct 96 12:26 CDT Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:26:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Subject: + marks on e-mail To: Pine-Info Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello everyone. Our system uses a set of aliases for internal users. When the message comes to the user's system address (like sklydm@ipc.org) it has a + mark indicating the message addressed personally to that user; but when the message comes to the alias address (like DmitriySklyar@ipc.org), which is an alias to the system address, the + mark is not present. Is there any way to have + mark for both system and alias address? Thank you in advance. ******************************** Dmitriy Sklyar Electronic Communication Manager IPC 2215 Sanders Road Northbrook, IL 60062-6135 voice 847-509-9700 ext. 311 fax 847-509-9798 e-mail sklydm@ipc.org URL http://www.ipc.org ******************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23745; Thu, 10 Oct 96 11:42:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA03495 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:38:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA03490 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:38:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBPuD-00038UC; Thu, 10 Oct 96 11:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert Sater Burns Subject: Other newsgroups... Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:57:37 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was wondering if there was some sort of newsgroup index floating around out there....if so....where???? Any help would be greatly appreciated.. Thanks, Robert From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08427; Thu, 10 Oct 96 12:20:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA27021 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:16:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA27016 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:16:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBQVy-00038VC; Thu, 10 Oct 96 12:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ucgadkw@ucl.ac.uk (Dominik Wujastyk) Subject: "reply-to:"? Message-Id: <1996Oct10.162654.35848@ucl.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:26:54 GMT I expect this is a stupid question, but how can I tailor the "Reply-to:" field of my outgoing email headers? I'm using Pine 3.95. I've searched the docs, honest! Dominik -- Best wishes, Dominik From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:29:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27162; Thu, 10 Oct 96 12:29:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA27281 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:25:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from io.org (io.org [198.133.36.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA27274 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:25:19 -0700 Received: from zot.io.org (root@zot.io.org [198.133.36.82]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA15452; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:25:15 -0400 Received: (from aamer@localhost) by zot.io.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA01707; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:25:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:25:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Aamer Sachedina To: Joseph Loo Cc: 3as64@qlink.queensu.ca, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: re: How to change the default Reply To In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks very much Joseph. Thi is exactly what I was looking for. My .pinerc file does not contain a user-id field, that's why I never figured this out. I tried adding "user" and "user-name" obviously with no luck. Thanks again, -aamer On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Joseph Loo wrote: > > Aamer, > > Go into your configuration program and change the user-id and user-domain. > This will alter your reply to fields. If you use the help button, it will > explain what it does. > > Joseph Loo > Litton Guidance & Control > 19601 Nordhoff St. N86 > Northridge, CA 91324-2422 > (818) 886-2211 x2336 > loo@littongcs.com > > > ****************************************************** Aamer Sachedina IBM DB2 WSDB Platform Services, 1150 Eglingtion Ave. Phone: Business (416) 448-3820, Res (905) 508-7825 Email: Business aamer@vnet.ibm.com Res: aamer@io.org ****************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27572; Thu, 10 Oct 96 12:50:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA05449 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:46:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA05444 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:46:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBR11-00038TC; Thu, 10 Oct 96 12:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tcheney@lexis.pop.upenn.edu (Timothy P. Cheney) Subject: Re: Pine on AIX UNIX v4.1 Date: 9 Oct 1996 15:58:28 GMT Message-Id: <53gi34$kdm@netnews.upenn.edu> References: <9609078447.AA844714690@mailya.yakima.com> The compiler or preprocesser will WARN you about "/* /* */" constructs but that should not cause the compile to fail. The message should begin with (W) which stands for warning which rhymes with ignore ;-) Sometimes you might start writing a comment in your code with a /* but forget to end the comment with a */. The compiler suspects that's what happened here and is warning you. nobody@psg.com wrote: : I was finally able to get a good compile of Pine on my AIX 4.1 machine, but only : after some rather serious alteration of several Pine source files. Somehow, I : doubt that I should have done this, but since this is (for now at least) a test : machine ... : Anyway, the problem appears to be related to the way comments in some source : files are handled. At least that's what the "C" compiler seemed to be : complaining about. For example, in the /pine3.95/pine/osdep/os-a41.h file, : several comment lines appear like this: : /* #include /* BSD-based systems */ : As far as I understand comment lines in "C" source code, the delimiters are the : /* and */ sequences. However, in many lines like the one above, two left-hand : delimiters occur prior to a single right-hand one. The only way I was able to : get Pine to properly "build" (compile) was to alter these comments by removing : the second left-hand delimiter. : After making this change, the compiles seemed to go without a problem. However, : I noticed that the file sizes ended up dramatically different on AIX 4.1 : compared to AIX 3.2.5. For example, after compiling all programs on AIX 3.2.5, : the binary files created were: : $ ls -l : total 21768 : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 1717607 Sep 8 18:34 imapd : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 1557523 Sep 8 18:34 mtest : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 861076 Sep 8 18:34 pico : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 858637 Sep 8 18:34 pilot : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 6137198 Sep 8 18:34 pine : $ : : but on the AIX 4.1 system, the same binary files looked like this: : $ ls -l : total 10936 : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root audit 1054577 Oct 5 07:42 imapd : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root audit 1013146 Oct 5 07:42 mtest : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root audit 291237 Oct 5 07:42 pico : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root audit 289062 Oct 5 07:42 pilot : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root audit 2938894 Oct 5 07:42 pine : $ : : Despite the differences in file sizes, Pine on the AIX 4.1 system seems to work : just fine. Hmmmm. : My questions are: : 1. If alteration of the source code comment lines is NOT the proper way to : get around the compilation failures, what is the proper method? : 2. If the resulting binary files are not the proper sizes, what happened? : Thank you for any comments you may have. : - Michael : ------------------------------------------------------------------ : Michael Wright, Systems Analyst email: msw@yakima.com : Yakima Products, Inc. Ph: 707-826-8175 : P.O. Box 4899, Arcata, CA 95521 (USA) Fx: 707-826-8149 : ------------------------------------------------------------------ -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | tcheney@pop.upenn.edu | | Timothy P. Cheney (215) 898-3197 | | Population Studies Center | | 239 McNeil/6298 | | University of Pennsylvania | | Philadelphia, PA 19104 | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29141; Thu, 10 Oct 96 14:03:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA07724 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 13:56:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from litton.net (master.litton.net [159.201.17.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA07719 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 13:56:20 -0700 Received: from littongcs.com by litton.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA04752; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 13:56:23 -0700 Received: from cie0.littongcs.com by littongcs.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA29682; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 13:56:25 -0700 Received: from loo.littongcs.com by cie0.littongcs.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA01925; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 13:56:08 -0700 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 13:56:54 -0700 () From: Joseph Loo To: Aamer Sachedina Cc: 3as64@qlink.queensu.ca, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: re: How to change the default Reply To In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-X-Sender: loo@cie_0.littongcs.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Aamer Sachedina wrote: I know that if you are using version 3.95, one of the options on the main menu is the configuration portion of pine. You might want to update the .pinerc through that portion instead of doing it by hand. It shows all the options with help. The help provides an explanation on the options but there are generally no examples to help you. > > Thanks very much Joseph. Thi is exactly what I was looking for. > My .pinerc file does not contain a user-id field, that's why I > never figured this out. I tried adding "user" and "user-name" > obviously with no luck. > > Thanks again, > -aamer > > > On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Joseph Loo wrote: > > > > > Aamer, > > > > Go into your configuration program and change the user-id and user-domain. > > This will alter your reply to fields. If you use the help button, it will > > explain what it does. > > > > Joseph Loo > > Litton Guidance & Control > > 19601 Nordhoff St. N86 > > Northridge, CA 91324-2422 > > (818) 886-2211 x2336 > > loo@littongcs.com > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > Aamer Sachedina > IBM DB2 WSDB Platform Services, 1150 Eglingtion Ave. > Phone: Business (416) 448-3820, Res (905) 508-7825 > Email: Business aamer@vnet.ibm.com Res: aamer@io.org > ****************************************************** > > Joseph Loo Litton Guidance & Control 19601 Nordhoff St. N86 Northridge, CA 91324-2422 (818) 886-2211 x2336 loo@littongcs.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22863; Thu, 10 Oct 96 14:45:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA01258 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:42:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA01248 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:41:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBSmw-00038TC; Thu, 10 Oct 96 14:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steven C King Subject: Pine Freezes During Network Downtime Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:29:09 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This happened a few days ago, and neither I or my ISP have no idea what causes it. Our network at cmr.fsu.edu was isolated from the outside world for awhile. Though we couldn't telnet/ftp/etc. out from our site, everything still worked. However, Pine decides to freeze when sending a message, even if it's to a user on our site. Elm continued to work fine, and it put messages that were to be sent out from our site into a queue, which would deliver them later once the network was re-establishedl; Messages that were sent to users locally were delivered immediately. As for Pine......FREEZE! ???????? Could someone tell me why this is the case? Is this a Pine configuration that needs to be set? -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc.} { "The way to do is to be." } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32396; Thu, 10 Oct 96 15:34:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA10427 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:30:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from allison.clark.net (allison.clark.net [168.143.0.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA10422 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:30:51 -0700 Received: from clark.net (stephen@clark.net [168.143.0.7]) by allison.clark.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA06770 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 18:30:44 -0400 Received: from localhost (stephen@localhost) by clark.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id SAA11254 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 18:27:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: clark.net: stephen owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 18:27:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Balbach To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: "Invalid INBOX format" help! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Solaris 2.5 SPARC. /var/mail is NFS mounted on a dedicated mail server. Problem: About every 10 minutes or whenever I need to write to my inbox (new mail comes in or deleteing mail) there are error messages regarding the INBOX and pine aborts and asks to quit and restart. The error messages include "INBOX length 0 aborting..".."invalid mailbox format".." unknown error consult an expert".. They all relate to the inbox and it appears the inbox is being written too when it should not be. I have tried: o Diffrent versions of pine o removing all .pinerc, .pine-conf, .pine-debug? and restarting o removing sent-mail o running pine directly on the mail server (no NFS) o deleteing the INBOX to 0 length o running from a bare shell (no .login .profile .csh) 0 creating a new account and forwarding mail to that account. the new account works on so the mail headers are fine. 0 watching the creation of /usr/mail/stephen.lock is created and deleted when the inbox is needed to be written too. verified ok. Im at a loss. This problem is not effecting anyone else but me. What other files does pine open/use? Any help appreciated. --- Stephen Balbach "Driving the Internet To Work" VP, ClarkNet due to the high volume of mail I receive please quote info@clark.net the full original message in your reply. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00728; Thu, 10 Oct 96 16:32:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA11914 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:27:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA11909 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:27:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBUO2-00038TC; Thu, 10 Oct 96 16:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jamie Royer Subject: Re: Automatic forwading of incoming mail in pine Message-Id: <325D44DD.6CF9@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:47:57 -0700 References: <325D3954.70A5@itsa.ucsf.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit chude@itsa.ucsf.edu wrote: > > Is anyone aware of commands to configure pine to automatically forward > incomming emails to a different email address? Thanks. > > Ravi > rpankha@itsa.ucsf.edu On Unix you create a ".forward" file in your home directory. It has nothing to do with Pine as far as I know. Pine is a UI (MUA) to your mail, other programs are used to control the other aspects of mail. The ".forward" file simply contains the address to forward to. I just did "man mail" and there is a section on forwarding mail. If you want to get fancy you can use your ".forward" file to call "procmail" and filter your mail into different Pine inboxes, forward to another address, or dump into "/dev/null". Hope that helps. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jamie Royer Tel: (604) 775-2879 Senior Programmer Fax: (604) 775-2880 GAEA Management & Consulting Ltd. E-Mail: jroyer@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca Burnaby, BC, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- My opinions may be wrong, but at least they're my own. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28502; Thu, 10 Oct 96 16:32:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA04134 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:27:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA04129 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:27:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBUPW-00038VC; Thu, 10 Oct 96 16:21 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: has mail been read? Date: 10 Oct 1996 21:28:23 GMT Message-Id: <53jppn$pue@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: <53che6$itl@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> <53i7mg$3ua@server.sae.extern.fh-hannover.de> Paul O Bartlett writes: >On 10 Oct 1996, Juergen Sauer wrote: >: Paul O Bartlett schrieb >: am Tue, 8 Oct 1996 07:54:42 -0400 in comp.mail.pine: >: POB> On 8 Oct 1996, Laurie Fuchs wrote: >: >: > Is there anyway to know whether or not mail I have sent has been read or >: > not? Thanks to anyone that has any information. >: >: POB> In general, NO. There are some proprietary mail systems which will >: POB> do this, but there simply is no way to do it across the Internet. I'm >: POB> afraid you're out of luck. Sorry. >: >: Incorrect. >: finger user@domain >: will do the job. That's what finger is for. > First, 'finger' is not a general solution, because it does not >exist on many systems. Second, many users have set their account up so Finger is included even on many PC TCP/IP stacks, plus it is on every UNIX I have seen, and on most VMS stacks. In a window environment it frequently has to be run from a shell window. >that others cannot finger their account. Third, and most importantly, How does a user setup their account so that people cannot finger her? >I have never seen any output whatever from 'finger' that told me >whether or not somebody had read or even received a piece of mail from >me or anybody else. I confess I am baffled as to why you think >'finger' will provide the information Laurie Fuchs is looking for. finger on Solaris 2.x of ellis@gmi.edu provides the following info: Login name: ellis In real life: R. Stewart Ellis Directory: /faculty/ellis Shell: /bin/csh On since Oct 8 07:32:02 on pts/1 from GMI_Modem_Pool Mail last read Thu Oct 10 16:56:36 1996 Project: I cannot talk or ntalk. Please email me. Plan: TEN THINGS THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT IF MICROSOFT STARTED BUILDING CARS 1. A particular model year of car wouldn't be available until after that year instead of before it. ... Note the "Mail last read Thu Oct 10 16:56:36 1996", which is about as good as the info gets, but it does allow a user to infer that I have not checked my mailbox in about 30 minutes, even though the xterm with pine in it is always open in the bottom right corner of my display. If the user sent the mail yesterday they would be within their rights to assume I was ignoring their mail and could mail me enquiring if I got it, which might make me feel guilty enough to respond. >Paul >---------------------------------------------------------- >Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA >Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key >Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28384; Thu, 10 Oct 96 16:32:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA11930 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:27:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA11923 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:27:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBUQx-00038WC; Thu, 10 Oct 96 16:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jandrea@juliet.stfx.ca (John Andrea) Subject: print to ansi ? Date: 10 Oct 1996 15:48:11 GMT Message-Id: <53j5rr$b4m@News.Dal.Ca> What are the rules for using the "attached-to-ansi" printer while using a terminal emulator from a PC 1) does ANSI.SYS need to be loaded ? 2) do parallel printers work ? thanks __________________________________________________________________ John Andrea St. Francis Xavier Univ. University Computer Services Antigonish, NS, CANADA B2G 2W5 http://www.stfx.ca/~jandrea/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01135; Thu, 10 Oct 96 16:35:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA04282 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:32:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA04277 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:32:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBUVa-00038TC; Thu, 10 Oct 96 16:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stefan Scholl Subject: Re: Newsreader NNTP XOVER command Date: 10 Oct 1996 20:26:46 GMT Message-Id: <53jm66$p1r@parsec.inka.de> References: Ron Bickers wrote: > I use pine as a newsreader and it's pretty slow to sort the articles. I > just realized it uses the HEAD command instead of something like XOVER. > Are there any plans to "fix" this. I'm sure the performance gain would be > significant. Just don't use a mailreader as a newsreader. ***Stefan -- ## Stefan Scholl ## ## Am 29. August 1997 endeten 3 Milliarden Leben. [Terminator 2: Judgment Day] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:41:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00437; Thu, 10 Oct 96 16:41:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA04489 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:37:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA04484 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:37:49 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 11 Oct 96 07:43:08 +0800 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 07:36:37 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: Dominik Wujastyk Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "reply-to:"? In-Reply-To: <1996Oct10.162654.35848@ucl.ac.uk> Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Dominik Wujastyk wrote: > I expect this is a stupid question, but how can I tailor the "Reply-to:" > field of my outgoing email headers? > > I'm using Pine 3.95. I've searched the docs, honest! You searched the setup/config settings and "customized-headers" didn't smack you in the face? :-) OPTION: Customized-Headers You may add your own custom headers to all outgoing messages. Each header you specify here must include the header tag (Reply-To:, Approved:, etc.) and may optionally include a value for that header. If you want to see these custom headers each time you compose a message, you must add them to your default composer headers list (see above), otherwise they become part of the rich header set which you only see when you press the rich header (Ctrl-R) command. Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28983; Thu, 10 Oct 96 16:58:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA12769 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:53:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA12764 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:53:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBUq7-00038VC; Thu, 10 Oct 96 16:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Finger (was: Re: has mail been read?) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 19:22:15 -0400 Message-Id: References: <53che6$itl@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> <53i7mg$3ua@server.sae.extern.fh-hannover.de> <53jppn$pue@news.eecs.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <53jppn$pue@news.eecs.umich.edu> On 10 Oct 1996, R. Stewart Ellis wrote (excerpted): > >that others cannot finger their account. Third, and most importantly, > > How does a user setup their account so that people cannot finger her? I have never tried this, because I want people to be able to finger my account, but according to the user manual from my service provider: cd $HOME touch .nofinger chmod 711 . chmod 755 .nofinger Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:20:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28134; Thu, 10 Oct 96 17:20:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA05638 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:17:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA05631 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:17:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBVCG-00038UC; Thu, 10 Oct 96 17:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sperling@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () Subject: E-mail Address' Date: 10 Oct 1996 23:17:11 GMT Message-Id: <53k05n$97o@news.sas.ab.ca> Hello In the e-mail section I am able to compile an address book with tons of e-mail address'. When I send somethinf to all the address's at once I get two pages of e-mail address'. Is there a way you can have it so the address' don't all come up but it still sends the message to all the people? Thanks Jason -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32714; Thu, 10 Oct 96 17:21:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA13493 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:18:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA13482 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:18:27 -0700 From: E.Greshko@cdc.com Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 11 Oct 96 08:23:50 +0800 Date: 11 Oct 1996 00:17:20 GMT Subject: Re: has mail been read? To: jojo@server.sae.extern.fh-hannover.de, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <325d93974590002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> In article <53i7mg$3ua@server.sae.extern.fh-hannover.de> you wrote: > Paul O Bartlett schrieb > am Tue, 8 Oct 1996 07:54:42 -0400 in comp.mail.pine: > POB> On 8 Oct 1996, Laurie Fuchs wrote: > >> Is there anyway to know whether or not mail I have sent has been read or >> not? Thanks to anyone that has any information. > > POB> In general, NO. There are some proprietary mail systems which will > POB> do this, but there simply is no way to do it across the Internet. I'm > POB> afraid you're out of luck. Sorry. > > Incorrect. > finger user@domain > will do the job. That's what finger is for. Well.....maybe....but you can't finger my account since I'm behind a firewall. I dare say that this is the case many times.... Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:44:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02329; Thu, 10 Oct 96 17:44:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA06043 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:39:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA06038 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:39:54 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 11 Oct 96 08:45:13 +0800 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 08:38:42 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko To: sperling@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: E-mail Address' In-Reply-To: <53k05n$97o@news.sas.ab.ca> Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 10 Oct 1996 sperling@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote: > Hello > In the e-mail section I am able to compile an address book with > tons of e-mail address'. When I send somethinf to all the address's at > once I get two pages of e-mail address'. Is there a way you can have > it so the address' don't all come up but it still sends the message to > all the people? What version of pine are you running? With luck it is version 3.95. Do some "Information Research" on the Bcc: and Lcc: headers. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 18:01:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02151; Thu, 10 Oct 96 18:01:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA06318 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:58:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs6.acs.ucalgary.ca (acs6.acs.ucalgary.ca [136.159.34.206]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA06313 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:58:30 -0700 Received: from localhost by acs6.acs.ucalgary.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA122680; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 18:58:44 -0600 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 18:58:44 -0600 (MDT) From: Ricky Chan To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Addition Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Add ANSI graphics capabilities.... Signatures and BOLD words would look so much better...if not ansi, extended DOS Ascii characters From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 18:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03151; Thu, 10 Oct 96 18:12:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA14259 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 18:08:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA14254 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 18:08:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBVyj-00038VC; Thu, 10 Oct 96 18:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: FAQs (was: Re: A question about folders?) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:05:24 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 9 Oct 1996, David L Miller wrote: > On Wed, 9 Oct 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > > > To the Fellow Old-Timers on this group: Sigh. We really do need some > > way of handling the questions that keep coming up over and over and > > over and over and over again from new people. > > We are now posting the "top 10" Pine FAQs monthly. Do you think it > would help to post it more often? Are there any other changes that > would make it more useful? My service provider has been having news hiccups lately, so I don't recall even having seen such a "top 10" FAQs. (There could be various posts I have missed.) I think it is a very good idea. As for its contents or format I cannot say, not having seen it, but I would suggest that in addition to posting it at least monthly, posting a pointer to it every two weeks (if not every week) at least would be a good idea, too. A lot of newcomers could get on comp.mail.pine just after the most recent posting, not know about it, and wind up asking the same old questions all over again. (Of course, their questions are legitimate quests for useful information.) A brief and judiciously worded notice, with a URL, posted on a regular basis might give new people occasion to check a FAQ first. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 19:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01059; Thu, 10 Oct 96 19:24:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA07681 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 19:22:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA07676 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 19:22:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBX8H-00038BC; Thu, 10 Oct 96 19:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gonzo@cyberenet.net (Robert Gonzalez) Subject: Re: Carriage return in PICO Date: 9 Oct 1996 22:49:38 GMT Message-Id: <53ha62$ftv@news.cyberenet.net> References: <5393ui$h1n@news.cyberenet.net> <539tei$quh@chinet.chinet.com> <53e1p9$ope@news.cyberenet.net> <53ect6$5an@chinet.chinet.com> Adam H. Kerman (ahk@chinet.chinet.com) wrote: : In article <53e1p9$ope@news.cyberenet.net>, : Robert Gonzalez wrote: : >Adam H. Kerman (ahk@chinet.chinet.com) wrote: : >: In article <5393ui$h1n@news.cyberenet.net>, : >: Robert Gonzalez wrote: : : >: If you use Z-MODEM to download and invoke it from the Unix command line, : >: use the -a switch to automatically change to DOS end-of-line conventions. : >: Thusly: : : >: sz -a my.text.file : : >This sounds like it would solve my problem, only I'm not using a dos : >computer, and I don't have zmodem available, just xmodem and ymodem. : : >Everything else works prefectly, it's only when I download a textfile : >that I have the problem. : : >I've been going in and adding <> where there should be using a CR and : >using search and replace in my wordprocessing program. : : >This is tedious : : So you're on a Mac? As I said earlier, the end-of-line convention is CR. : Since you can do search and replace already, simply substitute CR for NL. : (ascii 013 for ascii 010) : ASS/U/MEing? I'm using a Commodore 128 with Desterm 2.0. It uses 13/10 pairs (the 10 usually added automatically) Maybe I'll just leave well enough alone. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 20:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04018; Thu, 10 Oct 96 20:03:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA08296 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 20:01:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ibmcc.nankai.edu.cn ([202.113.16.151]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA08284 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 20:01:37 -0700 Received: by ibmcc.nankai.edu.cn (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA29620; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:52:43 +0800 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:52:43 +0800 From: zw@ibmcc.nankai.edu.cn (Zhang Wei ) Message-Id: <9610110152.AA29620@ibmcc.nankai.edu.cn> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Md5: RbdYpPUY8/8xNjaWEy9fWg== help From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 20:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25338; Thu, 10 Oct 96 20:45:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA16611 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 20:42:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA16606 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 20:42:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBYMy-00038BC; Thu, 10 Oct 96 20:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Isa Helderman Subject: how do you send mail to your entire address book? Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 21:35:00 -0500 Message-Id: <325DB250.2BA8@pathfinder.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Surely there must be a way to send mail to every alias in your address book. I've tried typing "all" in the TO field, but that's just wishful thinking. Does anyone know how to do this? Thanks, Isa From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 21:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24794; Thu, 10 Oct 96 21:02:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA09160 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 20:57:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA09155 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 20:57:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBYcr-00038BC; Thu, 10 Oct 96 20:51 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Slaughter Subject: "Lcc:" and "To:" Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 01:08:49 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've put together a couple distribution lists, and, following the Pine help instructions, inserted the distribution list "nick" in the "Lcc" header. According to the help menu, the "name" of the distribution list should appear in the "To:" area (e.g.: "Name.of.list": ;). But what I get appearing is the name of the list *plus* the name of the first person on the list (e.g.: "Name.of.list"Joe.Smith: ;). The whole point of using Lcc is to hide the names on the list. Furthermore, it would be confusing for a John Smith to get a message apparently mailed to Joe Smith. I've put myself on the list also, so I know that what shows up at the destinations is this same nick plus first name on list thing. Anyone know why this happens and how to prevent it? -- ~~~^~ `0^0' (* " *) =====ooO====U====Ooo========================= Harry Slaughter @Infoseek Corporation harrys@netgate.net harry@infoseek.com 408.971.0922 408.567.2920 --------------------------------------------- Harry's Homepage: http://www.netgate.net/~harrys Check out the best new engine on the web: .oO() ---> http://ultra.infoseek.com ( ) ()Oo. =======\ (====( )========================== \_) ) / (_/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 21:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05626; Thu, 10 Oct 96 21:55:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA17737 for pine-info-out; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 21:52:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA17732 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 21:52:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBZV5-00038TC; Thu, 10 Oct 96 21:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: How can I filter *existing* email? Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 16:35:58 GMT Message-Id: <53dvor$l7q@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <52vto7$e7q@basecamp1.net-quest.com> I ran into similar problems when we moved from VMS Mail to Unix Pine. I've had success in getting messages to stay in proper order, without changing the default sort option of "arrival," by: opening the folder (we'll call it "bob") I want to re-sort using "$d" to sort the messages (for this session only) by date using ";aastemp" to select all messages and move them all to a folder called "temp" - They are copied into the temp folder in the current sort order. using "gtemp" to go to temp using ";aasbob" to move the messages out of temp and back to bob, where they now show up in proper date order I've had no problems with funky date formats from older messages, but I've read here that others have. Can't help with that, unless you want to manually edit the mail file and "fix" the date headers so they're standardized! -Ram -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ On Sat, 5 Oct 1996, Anthony Towns wrote: >On 3 Oct 1996, Mike Carlson wrote: >> Now with that out of the way...Is there any way to take one huge email >> box and split it into various folders? I've managed to get procmail going >> just fine with new mail, but this old stuff just hangs out in one big blob. >You should have ``formail'' if you also have procmail. formail lets you >split a mailbox up into the component messages and pass them through >another program. >Assuming you have procmail set up to handle new mail properly, > $ formail < /mail/mike -s procmail -d mike >ie ``run the command [procmail deliver to mike] for each message in >[/mail/mike]'' >> Also, since the folders already contain new email, is there a way to have >> it arrange them in the right date order? (Thought I'd ask while I was at it.) >Sorry, but I can't help you on that one. Setting Pine's ``Sort order'' to >Date (as opposed to Arrival) gets most of it right, but odd date formats >still (used to? I upgraded to 3.95 yesterday. Maybe it works now) confuse >it. >Hope this helps, >aj >- -- >Anthony Towns | #include >aj@humbug.org.au | PGP Key: 0x7172DAED >http://student.uq.edu.au/~s343676 | Life is not a matroid. >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: 2.6.3i >Charset: ascii >Comment: Public key available from http://student.uq.edu.au/~s343676 >iQCVAwUBMlXm5eRRvX9xctrtAQFmyAQArBBLslxVzELNKSprudQ9Kwle7iZuIbvx >spzvuBmJBXvoaqkFj73ftpsj1M2HB/dQXEb8nO2GUAVZjw8JPeMEsXf4BaF6jrzU >icwfrXBlNm+C9NnLdAyuVS+NeyTLJRFFfaAoB3kvSX27+Cy11jI0L/mIEuOIHV+g >9X38xWsFBtY= >=5ZQP >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 00:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07056; Fri, 11 Oct 96 00:28:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA11966 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 00:23:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA11961 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 00:23:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBbrr-00038TC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 00:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Slaughter Subject: Re: Pine & Wyse Terminals Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 00:12:43 -0700 Message-Id: References: <539fo3$c0l@juliana.sprynet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <539fo3$c0l@juliana.sprynet.com> Same problem here. Someone has to know why. I've got wy-30 termcaps file going, but it still doesn't enable the arrows. On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, P. van Schijndel wrote: > Hi! > > We use pine on an RS-6000 running AIX 3.2.5. Our IBM 3151 terminals' > arrow keys work properly, but our Wyse 150 terminals do not, forcing > us to use control-P, etc. > > Does anyone else had a similar problem? What was your solution? > > Phil From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 00:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06457; Fri, 11 Oct 96 00:58:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA19985 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 00:53:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA19980 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 00:53:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBcLS-00038BC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 00:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Stephen and Amy Brown" Subject: compressing in pine Message-Id: <01bbb722$c02f0a60$0b5d4781@brownbrd> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 23:17:23 -0400 Hello, I am a student at WVNCC in New Martinsville, WV. We are currnetly using pine for our Interent Research class and I have what I hope is a simple question. I know that I can expunge in Pine but is there a way to compress our mail also. I thought perhaps expunge would do it but when I exit pine I still have to go in and compress my mail seperatley. Is there any way to compress in pine? If so please tell me how. Thank you for taking the time to read and answer this post. SBrown From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 01:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23998; Fri, 11 Oct 96 01:08:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA12469 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 01:03:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA12464 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 01:03:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBcRo-00038TC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 00:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kathleen Subject: Re: How do I save to a file? Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 21:00:56 -0700 Message-Id: <325B2378.5981@telis.org> References: <52rj83$rao@fnord.dfw.net> <3257E7E9.7115@telis.org> <53cfiu$90m@dns.ktb.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > | My provider only lets us have Pine or Lynx through a menu, we cannot > | access the UNIX prompt. Somehow there must be a way to get mail onto our > | own hard drives from within Pine itself? > > Doesn't sound unreasonable, does it? Try emailing help@telis.org and ask > how to do it. MAYBE they'll tell you... > > Crude way is to do a screen capture with your terminal software (procomm > does this with alt-f1) while you scroll the file. Does the menu allow > this? I had to do that for about a year because the lousy provider just > couldn't set up the system to support zmodem -- WHICH IS THE STANDARD OF > THE INDUSTRY, FOR GOD'S SAKE! > > If you want to download WordPerfect files, you will have to use uuencode > (if they offer this) to translate it into printable characters, do the > scroll thing, and then uudecode (you will need the uudecode.exe program on > your hard disk -- god knows how you're going to get it unless somebody can > give it to you on diskette) it when it gets to your hard disk. > > This is obviously an awfully cumbersome way to do things. Best thing to > do is bug your provider. If they simply don't offer any downloading > capabilities, you might use lynx to check out http://www.thelist.com which > lists ISPs by state, area code, etc., and find somebody who is more > reasonable. Hang in there, things *will* get better :) > > Bev bashley@ktb.net > **************************************** > My computer doesn't have to be friendly; > civil is entirely sufficient. Thank you for the good advice; I have used the log capture in ProComm. But, I am trying to set this up for a man who is using a Braille reader, and is not used to switching between programs or Internet protocols. Our provider only supports Windows, and Netscape just downloads your mail for you automatically. I've been going over there and downloading his stuff for him in Windows and saving to his hard drive. He wants to be independent, though... Kathleen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 02:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06045; Fri, 11 Oct 96 02:25:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA21005 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 02:18:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA21000 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 02:18:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBdeF-00038BC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 02:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Newsgroups header in Pine and Eudora Date: 7 Oct 1996 10:55:39 -0400 Message-Id: References: <52t00j$iu@lex.zippo.com> mist@cyberus.ca writes: >Try as I might, I cannot find a way of getting either Eudora Lite or >Unix PINE to let me type in a "Newsgroups" header which I need for >bunging an article through a mail2news gateway. In pine, type ^R while your cursor is in the headers to show rich headers, which includes the Newsgroups header. If you have specified a nntp-server in your .pinerc, you can just post from Pine. If you haven't specified a nntp-server, I don't know if Pine will let you mail that header to your mail2news gateway - does anyone know? Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 02:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26113; Fri, 11 Oct 96 02:30:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA13441 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 02:25:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz (visla.utia.cas.cz [147.231.12.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id CAA13436 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 02:24:58 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.6/8.7.1) with ESMTP id LAA25700; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:26:47 +0200 (METDST) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:26:46 +0200 (METDST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= {Vladimir Solnicky} Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: David Monniaux Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ISO-8859-1 In-Reply-To: <530guu$3a7@cri.ens-lyon.fr> Message-Id: Organization: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_=28=DATI?= =?ISO-8859-2?Q?A=29_AV_=C8R?= X-Caution: This message is _not_ sent on behalf of the organization! Acknowledge-To: vs+delivery@utia.cas.cz X-Confirm-Delivery-To: vs+delivery@utia.cas.cz Transport-Options: /delivery /return Read-Receipt-To: vs+reading@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Return-To: vs+reading@utia.cas.cz X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs+reading@utia.cas.cz Disposition-Notification-To: vs+disposition@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 3 Oct 1996, David Monniaux wrote: > matters. I like Pine, but it has some problem : it seems to > believe I've got an US_ASCII display : it sometimes complains > about displaying ISO-8859-1 text on such a display. More over, > it refuses accentuated characters typed on the keyboard. > This looks abnormal : my others applications, even the shells, > accept accentuated characters under ISO-8859-1. There's The problem of the message compmaining about the possibly incorrect character set has been addressed in previous answers. The problem of keyboard may be in incorectly set locale variables. Try to set the LANG environment variable to your language code (consult the man pages for appropriate values). But it _may_ only be a solution. Regards, V. S. Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD, =DATIA AV =C8R, Pod vod=E1renskou v=EC=BE=ED 4, CZ 182 08 Praha 8-Libe=F2, +42 2 6605/2364, telefax: +42 2 6884677, vs@utia.cas.cz, http://www.utia.cas.cz/vs/vs-home-cz.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 02:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08215; Fri, 11 Oct 96 02:39:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA13563 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 02:33:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA13558 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 02:33:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBdsz-00038TC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 02:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stan Kalisch III Subject: Re: Finger (was: Re: has mail been read?) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 23:28:18 -0700 Message-Id: References: <53che6$itl@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> <53i7mg$3ua@server.sae.extern.fh-hannover.de> <53jppn$pue@news.eecs.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- [I'd set followups to somewhere else, but I'm not exactly sure where this belongs--um...comp.protocols ?...] On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On 10 Oct 1996, R. Stewart Ellis wrote (excerpted): > > > >that others cannot finger their account. Third, and most importantly, > > > > How does a user setup their account so that people cannot finger her? > > I have never tried this, because I want people to be able to finger > my account, but according to the user manual from my service provider: > > cd $HOME > touch .nofinger > chmod 711 . > chmod 755 .nofinger > Do note that (I forget which implementation of "finger" I know of that does indeed support what you've described) only certain implementations of "finger" support this--and I'm not sure that most even support it at that. Stan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: http://www.crl.com/~sjkiii/PGP.Current_Public_Key iQCVAwUBMl3pCJyiGl9g1kgJAQGsNAP/fH9fArb4Yx2EOSyEJ77DXU/zfOmlano0 FsPfUogr5fh7Xya3w11jirFbqDh30cXspAlYs+cwVHzM1hrzPmbUGXOknwE4mNDG E9T0XGSZpiW9GHXTJ0ehKFy+oGW8dCklWGeJaF2oBOgFXvIfFKrPV+jtSDW8uQkY CPCuCaak79A= =swJ8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 03:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08067; Fri, 11 Oct 96 03:13:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA21541 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 03:08:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA21536 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 03:08:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBeR4-00038BC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 03:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Tse" Subject: Re: Untitled Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:35:09 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: Mime-Version: 1.0 On 8 Oct 1996, Rebecca Kapsner wrote: > I can't get into my address book. It tells me Permission Denied. What > should I do? Perhaps the permission on your ~/.addressbook and ~/.addressbook.lu aren't set probably. Try this : chmod u+rwx ~/.addressbook ~/.addressbook.lu Hope this helps. J. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 03:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23546; Fri, 11 Oct 96 03:18:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA13964 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 03:08:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA13959 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 03:08:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBeRN-00038TC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 03:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Tse" Subject: Re: Untitled Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:36:42 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: Mime-Version: 1.0 On 8 Oct 1996, Corey L Williams wrote: > I am trying to find a persons e-mail address at the University of > Creighton in Omaha, Nebraska. I have tried the finger command and have > been unsuccessful. I was wondering if there was some sort of > compatability problem or maybe I was using the wrong command to search for > this address. If there is some help you can give me in my search for this > e-mail address I would certainly appreciate it. Try Four11 at : http://www.four11.com/ It's an excellent people-finding WWW site. Hope this helps. J. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 05:19:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06089; Fri, 11 Oct 96 05:19:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA23285 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 05:13:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA23280 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 05:13:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBgMA-00038BC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 05:06 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: sendmail problems on HP-UX Date: 10 Oct 1996 23:12:57 GMT Message-Id: <53jvtp$3p6@due.unit.no> References: In article , wrote: >If I reverse the order in my /etc/hosts file to read: > > neptune.radionics.com neptune > >then refreeze and restart sendmail, mail coming into my pine keeps the >full name. So it seems my sendmail has become very dependent on the >state of my /etc/hosts during the freezing and I don't know why. A common warning I have seen about /etc/hosts is: Always make sure that the fully qualified name of any machine is listed first. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 05:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23720; Fri, 11 Oct 96 05:23:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA23347 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 05:18:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lin2.tpu.ee (lin2.tpu.ee [193.40.239.27]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA23342 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 05:18:15 -0700 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by lin2.tpu.ee (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA30791 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:17:07 +0300 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:17:05 +0300 (EET DST) From: Mihhail Sarubin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help needed Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sorry to disturb you. I'm a new user and just wanna know if I can get and receive messages from INTERNET From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 07:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01398; Fri, 11 Oct 96 07:00:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA16819 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 06:54:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from castle.beaver.edu (castle.beaver.edu [207.103.37.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA16814 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 06:54:16 -0700 Received: from localhost by castle.beaver.edu; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/03Jan95-0203PM) id AA04100; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:58:35 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:58:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Mindy Levitz To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To whom it may concern, I have been having trouble with my account. Everytime I try to send something, an error message comes up on the screen saying message append failed and write to send messages failed. Everytime I try to save a message, it won't let me. Can you help me correct this problem? Thank you, Mindy Levitz From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 07:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09626; Fri, 11 Oct 96 07:00:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA16811 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 06:53:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA16806 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 06:53:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBhxf-00038TC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 06:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Anthony Towns Subject: Re: [-c.m.pine-] PGP & Pine -- another solution? Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 21:38:50 +1000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 10 Oct 1996, Dean Pentcheff wrote: > Anthony Towns writes: > > I've got a slightly different solution, which uses Richard Gooch's > > PGPsendmail package (which is a Unix only thing, AFAIK). [...] > Care to post the code, or a pointer to it? I've tidied it up a little, so it should be close to usable for others now. If you've got web access, point your browser at: http://student.uq.edu.au/~s343676/pgpdaemon A warning, though: it's beta software, and I didn't take _that_ much care to make sure it's robust, reliable, or secure. It *should* be, but no promises. If you don't have web access (really? Wow. I *am* impressed), mail me, and we'll work something out. As was Richard Gooch's original, it's GPLed and hence freely redistributable. I'm not quite game to advertise it too widely yet, though. :) Cheers, aj - -- Anthony Towns | #include aj@humbug.org.au | PGP Key: 0x7172DAED http://student.uq.edu.au/~s343676 | Life is not a matroid. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: ascii Comment: Public key available from http://student.uq.edu.au/~s343676 iQCVAwUBMl4xzeRRvX9xctrtAQH50QP+LIw8nhQB9ynbkqMx0EgxkRiER9sh/PFq O27onVXPMfvFeZtIbzFxEDyIl7JVd4ZeQTpYRoyjzwvgl1+8l2pv/30bA0of13Xx W0LRra2c/LesWGG08O6PK8ifLrlTkNRVpg/HwPNcm9r1uUHYOEj152NN61w88PZT 4FJZC+I7gHo= =uIie -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 07:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04949; Fri, 11 Oct 96 07:02:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA24523 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 06:53:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA24518 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 06:53:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBhym-00038UC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 06:50 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: posting to self moderated groups Date: 10 Oct 1996 23:00:50 GMT Message-Id: <53jv72$3g6@due.unit.no> References: In article , Goldarg wrote: >How do I use pine to post to a self moderated newsgroup? I know of only two self moderated newsgroups, alt.hackers and alt.sysadmin.recovery (According to hearsay. I haven't read either for quite some time.) In both of those the purpose of the self moderation is to avoid people who are unable to find out such things themselves. Yes, this is elitism, but in the case of alt.hackers this is all that prevents it from become the cesspool which alt.hacker is. (This, too, according to hearsay.) Just to get you started: All the information you need is in pine + an average article in the newsgroup in question. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 07:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00035; Fri, 11 Oct 96 07:07:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA16948 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 07:01:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id HAA16943 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 07:01:19 -0700 From: msw@mailya.yakima.com Received: from uucp4.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp4.UU.NET [192.48.96.35]) id QQbkyy14820; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:01:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailya.UUCP by uucp4.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:01:17 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by mailya.yakima.com id AA845041868 Fri, 11 Oct 96 06:51:08 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 96 06:51:08 Message-Id: <9609118450.AA845041868@mailya.yakima.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re[2]: Pine on AIX UNIX v4.1 Thank you to everyone (especially Tim Cheney) who made suggestions on compiling Pine on an AIX UNIX v4.1 box. Tim was correct: the "C" compiler does issue warnings (not fatal errors) as a result of the double-left-delimiter entries in certain Pine source code files. However, everything compiles just fine. Thanks again. - Michael P.S. May we all have a brief case of neophyte-itis at least once -- and may we learn from that experience! :) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Pine on AIX UNIX v4.1 Author: tcheney@lexis.pop.upenn.edu (Timothy P. Cheney) at INTERNET Date: 10/10/96 1:02 PM The compiler or preprocesser will WARN you about "/* /* */" constructs but that should not cause the compile to fail. The message should begin with (W) which stands for warning which rhymes with ignore ;-) Sometimes you might start writing a comment in your code with a /* but forget to end the comment with a */. The compiler suspects that's what happened here and is warning you. nobody@psg.com wrote: : I was finally able to get a good compile of Pine on my AIX 4.1 machine, but onl y : after some rather serious alteration of several Pine source files. Somehow, I : doubt that I should have done this, but since this is (for now at least) a test : machine ... : Anyway, the problem appears to be related to the way comments in some source : files are handled. At least that's what the "C" compiler seemed to be : complaining about. For example, in the /pine3.95/pine/osdep/os-a41.h file, : several comment lines appear like this: : /* #include /* BSD-based systems */ : As far as I understand comment lines in "C" source code, the delimiters are the : /* and */ sequences. However, in many lines like the one above, two left-hand : delimiters occur prior to a single right-hand one. The only way I was able to : get Pine to properly "build" (compile) was to alter these comments by removing : the second left-hand delimiter. : After making this change, the compiles seemed to go without a problem. However , : I noticed that the file sizes ended up dramatically different on AIX 4.1 : compared to AIX 3.2.5. For example, after compiling all programs on AIX 3.2.5, : the binary files created were: : $ ls -l : total 21768 : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 1717607 Sep 8 18:34 imapd : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 1557523 Sep 8 18:34 mtest : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 861076 Sep 8 18:34 pico : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 858637 Sep 8 18:34 pilot : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 6137198 Sep 8 18:34 pine : $ : : but on the AIX 4.1 system, the same binary files looked like this: : $ ls -l : total 10936 : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root audit 1054577 Oct 5 07:42 imapd : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root audit 1013146 Oct 5 07:42 mtest : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root audit 291237 Oct 5 07:42 pico : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root audit 289062 Oct 5 07:42 pilot : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root audit 2938894 Oct 5 07:42 pine : $ : : Despite the differences in file sizes, Pine on the AIX 4.1 system seems to work : just fine. Hmmmm. : My questions are: : 1. If alteration of the source code comment lines is NOT the proper way to : get around the compilation failures, what is the proper method? : 2. If the resulting binary files are not the proper sizes, what happened? : Thank you for any comments you may have. : - Michael : ------------------------------------------------------------------ : Michael Wright, Systems Analyst email: msw@yakima.com : Yakima Products, Inc. Ph: 707-826-8175 : P.O. Box 4899, Arcata, CA 95521 (USA) Fx: 707-826-8149 : ------------------------------------------------------------------ -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | tcheney@pop.upenn.edu | | Timothy P. Cheney (215) 898-3197 | | Population Studies Center | | 239 McNeil/6298 | | University of Pennsylvania | | Philadelphia, PA 19104 | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 07:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28700; Fri, 11 Oct 96 07:44:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA17430 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 07:34:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA17425 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 07:33:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBiZ9-00038BC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 07:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: cut and paste Date: 11 Oct 1996 14:08:30 GMT Message-Id: <53lkcu$6m5@coconut.epix.net> References: G. Nylund (aradia@online.dct.com) wrote: : I have a couple messages in my saved folder. I want to cut sections out of : each and compose a new message including those cuts. I can't seem to find : a way to do that. Any suggestions? Save them as files with the (E)xport command, then while composing (with pico) ^R (control + r) to "read in" those files, then ^K to cut out what you do NOT want. Maybe someone else has a simpler way, but that works for me. Hope this helps. BYE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 07:57:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01075; Fri, 11 Oct 96 07:57:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA17680 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 07:49:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sums2.rdg.ac.uk (sums2.rdg.ac.uk [134.225.44.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id HAA17666 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 07:49:03 -0700 Received: from suma3.rdg.ac.uk (actually host suma3-e3.rdg.ac.uk) by sums2.rdg.ac.uk with ESMTP; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:48:49 +0100 Received: from localhost by suma3.rdg.ac.uk (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA26151; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:48:46 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:48:45 +0100 (BST) From: Clare Louise Stacey To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: fault Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" I wonder if you can help me. I can not access my inbox, as the screen always reads "file not open", and it altermatically returns to the menu page. I can send out messages still. I have used pine successfully for over a year, and have never had this problem.....any ideas appreciated, thankyou, Clare ............................................................................. Clare Stacey BSc student. Department of soil science, Reading university. England. email:asustacy@reading.ac.uk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 08:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10718; Fri, 11 Oct 96 08:26:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA25913 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 08:19:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA25908 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 08:19:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBjJ8-00038UC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 08:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: phoney INBOX for PC Pine? Date: 7 Oct 1996 11:04:30 -0400 Message-Id: References: <52tgbf$967@news.iastate.edu> dmartin@iastate.edu (David Martin) writes: >I wish to use PC Pine to send but not receive. My site has no IMAP >server. How can I configure PC Pine so that it does not fail with an >error message that it can't open the INBOX. One possibility might be to use an anonymous IMAP server and one of their public folders as your fake INBOX. Does anyone know if this will work? Does PC-Pine require an IMAP connection to be able to send messages? Thanks, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 08:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10961; Fri, 11 Oct 96 08:41:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA26184 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 08:33:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA26179 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 08:33:24 -0700 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr49.interl.net [205.244.161.49]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA02407 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:31:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA13015 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:33:05 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:32:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: pine-info Subject: Re: PGP & Pine -- another solution? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 10 Oct 1996, Dean Pentcheff wrote: > Hmmmm... I was considering writing something similar myself (getting > awfully tired of retyping my passphrase for every single outgoing > email, and not thrilled about that passphrase going unencrypted across > our network here). But if you've done the work, I'd be delighted to > parasitize it. > > Care to post the code, or a pointer to it? You might want to take a look at mkpgp 2.1 also... It's a csh script, and if I remember correctly, the author included some sort of a daemon-type script to pass along your passphrase to pgp. I believe it's called pph and it's in the archive's Ancillaries directory. I'm not using it though (the daemon), so sorry about the lack of detail. ftp://ftp.rivertown.net/pub/unix/privacy/mkpgp2.1.tar.gz Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMl5okCGB07hAGnFhAQGY7AQA5WtOAsFZ5Qh/V0E05Y/LLcavSUpd5dsO fhfUCoyUYp55ZOa5vGx7Tc9g1FroX9/iJBUYDFFf7z3mpwkiZa8GCBr5meeGSCT/ TP29bE6Vj84AP0qhksZJikNW55IIfmlUveV4vaIPDrwlzybC9Hk+nl8UxLVcqPU+ cEzzjukrLc0= =azl1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, @interl.net, @geocities.com Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 08:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13148; Fri, 11 Oct 96 08:45:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA18511 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 08:36:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA18506 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 08:36:15 -0700 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr49.interl.net [205.244.161.49]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA02449 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:34:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA13123 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:35:55 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:35:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: pine-info Subject: Re: UNIX to Linux switch Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, Edward M Greshko wrote: > You are runnnig pine3.91. The current and much better version > is pine3.95. The binary for AIX is not compatible with LINUX. Therefore, > you are advised to get the latest source for pine and recompile. ...and/or to get the precompiled Linux binaries from: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed/ imapd-bin.linux.Z pico-bin.linux.Z pilot-bin.linux.Z pine-bin.linux.Z Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMl5pOyGB07hAGnFhAQGHvwP/dcxgOMDwarkA6OnOFfj8PFYkwuPIOBnc 2J/YKXneE2ciGtx4VBp/GH8NBXu8EO18fLlRb0GRZYxs/s1X29s2RnFVHyskLr4w 3CG6TDHcbjIivfo+dOXWNKUmqYlWO4ovFaY3KQU06kKsKF5OBjjZUh3BOM2TWK85 Kmhlx/PMvNQ= =sNaW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, @interl.net, @geocities.com Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 08:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13232; Fri, 11 Oct 96 08:48:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA18650 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 08:42:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA18645 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 08:42:05 -0700 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr49.interl.net [205.244.161.49]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA02561 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:40:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA13226 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:41:45 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:41:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: pine-info Subject: Re: + marks on e-mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 10 Oct 1996 sklydm@ipc.org wrote: > Our system uses a set of aliases for internal users. When the message > comes to the user's system address (like sklydm@ipc.org) it has a + mark > indicating the message addressed personally to that user; but when the > message comes to the alias address (like DmitriySklyar@ipc.org), which is > an alias to the system address, the + mark is not present. Is there any > way to have + mark for both system and alias address? Add both addresses to "alt-addresses" in .pinerc: alt-addresses=sklydm@ipc.org, DmitriySklyar@ipc.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMl5qmyGB07hAGnFhAQEtlgP+OLvhemVUO9W3aIoPUrNlUHXa8Y/OHqB1 1/WZICj176O3q1kuIXwIvVHklLyVsDlMwEGTpE4qsRmGGaUGgZI93GeaQpFxxmVY dgFYhjiSSrD0EZRVWjd2683iGvWsB3velPPdXWd3Bqt9KdZmVR59+PxaPTZ8NajT PxUvoAYm0QQ= =iXG6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, @interl.net, @geocities.com Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 08:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11025; Fri, 11 Oct 96 08:54:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA18793 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 08:48:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA18788 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 08:48:13 -0700 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr49.interl.net [205.244.161.49]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA02691; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:46:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA13329; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:47:53 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:47:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Steven C King Cc: pine-info Subject: Re: Pine Freezes During Network Downtime In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Steven C King wrote: > This happened a few days ago, and neither I or my ISP have no idea what > causes it. Our network at cmr.fsu.edu was isolated from the outside world > for awhile. Though we couldn't telnet/ftp/etc. out from our site, > everything still worked. However, Pine decides to freeze when sending a > message, even if it's to a user on our site. Elm continued to work fine, > and it put messages that were to be sent out from our site into a queue, > which would deliver them later once the network was re-establishedl; > Messages that were sent to users locally were delivered immediately. As > for Pine......FREEZE! ???????? Could someone tell me why this is > the case? Is this a Pine configuration that needs to be set? # List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail. smtp-server= This is just a stab in the dark, but does the above field (from .pinerc) have anything defined in it? If so, that might be the problem... Try leaving it blank, then it'll use sendmail which will queue the message for delivery when the network comes back up. Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMl5sCSGB07hAGnFhAQEUDAQAr+F1yjrY8/gB2BTZ3u9j33j2IlWrfKK1 GzmXIcpPZJugJm6svohni7+8YxGq2AU574A5WQG8++G1wLz+nditLbc/RE3tdy6e gGqVzq5EJqNu0gr7rviXjSxrYwzfOEpUfSpUQFqWf5rObS9UUpeJemm08z0+fNuL n2Dk0ixMfDg= =5ZXi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, @interl.net, @geocities.com Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16223; Fri, 11 Oct 96 10:21:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA21353 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:14:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA21346 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:14:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBl5J-00038BC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 10:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fswasey@btv.ibm.com (Francis C. Swasey) Subject: dealing with digests in 3.9[1-5] Date: 11 Oct 1996 15:12:33 GMT Message-Id: <53lo51$197u@mdnews.btv.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I am familiar with the MH mail program (which is what I use at work), but at home on my Linux system, I use pine 3.91 (soon to upgrade to 3.95). The problem I'm having is that I subscribe to a digestified mailing list and have not found a way to break the digest appart into individual messages. With MH, there is a "burst" command to perform this action. Is there a way to do this with pine? Thanks Frank -- Speaking *from* but not *for* IBM From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:47:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26923; Fri, 11 Oct 96 10:47:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA21896 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:30:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA21888 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:30:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBlHW-00038BC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 10:21 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tcheney@lexis.pop.upenn.edu (Timothy P. Cheney) Subject: Re: "Unexpected Changes to INBOX" - help! Date: 11 Oct 1996 15:25:11 GMT Message-Id: <53losn$kgp@netnews.upenn.edu> References: <53jrmn$7b6@clarknet.clark.net> Stephen: Just an idea...the last time you restarted sendmail on the server did you login as root, su from your personal account, or sudo? I recommend you make sure you do it the first way. Hope this hilft, Tim Stephen Balbach (stephen@clark.net) wrote: : Hi, : Solaris 2.5 SPARC. /var/mail is NFS mounted on a dedicated mail : server. : Problem: About every 10 minutes or whenever I need to write to my : inbox (new mail comes in or deleteing mail) there are error messages : regarding the INBOX and pine aborts and asks to quit and restart. The : error messages include "INBOX length 0 aborting..".."invalid mailbox : format".." unknown error consult an expert".. They all relate to : the inbox and it appears the inbox is being written too when it should not : be. : I have tried: : o Diffrent versions of pine : o removing all .pinerc, .pine-conf, .pine-debug? and restarting : o removing sent-mail and .addressbook* : o running pine directly on the mail server (no NFS) : o deleteing the INBOX to 0 length : o running from a bare shell (no .login .profile .csh) : 0 creating a new account and forwarding mail to that account. the new : account works on so the mail headers are fine. : 0 watching the creation of /usr/mail/stephen.lock is created and deleted : when the inbox is needed to be written too. verified ok. : Im at a loss. This problem is not effecting anyone else but me. What other : files does pine open/use? Any help appreciated. : I have used pine for 4 years and support a network of 6000 users using : pine and have never seen this problem before. I have looked at it for 3 : days to no avail, it is effecting my personal account only. : --- : Stephen Balbach "Driving the Internet To Work" : VP, ClarkNet due to the high volume of mail I receive please quote : info@clark.net the full original message in your reply. : -- : --- : Stephen Balbach "Driving the Internet To Work" : VP, ClarkNet due to the high volume of mail I receive please quote : info@clark.net the full original message in your reply. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | tcheney@pop.upenn.edu | | Timothy P. Cheney (215) 898-3197 | | Population Studies Center | | 239 McNeil/6298 | | University of Pennsylvania | | Philadelphia, PA 19104 | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17417; Fri, 11 Oct 96 11:21:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA23045 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:09:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA23040 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:09:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBly3-00038BC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 11:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Koen Claessen Subject: Threading news messages Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:54:17 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi there, Is there a possibility to thread news messages in pine, without threading my mail messages in my mailbox? I find it very disappointing to see how pine does the news reading. Can I make this something more useable? Regards, Koen. -- | Koen Claessen, kcclaess@cse.ogi.edu. | | http://www.cse.ogi.edu/~kcclaess/ | |------------------------------------------------------| | Visiting student at OGI, Portland, Oregon, USA. | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 13:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06041; Fri, 11 Oct 96 13:25:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA26518 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 13:21:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from www.courts.state.md.us ([170.99.108.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id NAA26513 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 13:21:51 -0700 Received: from jis2.courts.state.md.us ([170.99.3.2]) by www.courts.state.md.us (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA18140 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 16:23:42 -0400 Received: from localhost by jis2.courts.state.md.us (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA54966; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 16:21:17 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 16:21:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Cogliano To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: AIX and Pine Compose Bug Fix Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII After getting enough complaints from users about AIX Pine 3.95 hanging when starting the compose function, I decided to look at the Pine source code to see if I could determine the problem. The problem is that Pine itself is compiled using terminfo support, while the pico module is compiled using termcap support, and when switching from Pine to Pico it gets confused (thanks to bill@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu who also spent the time to independently discover this problem). To fix, you need to have Pine and Pico be consistant in using either termcap or terminfo, but not both. Since terminfo is better supported for AIX, I picked terminfo. In the pico directory: Modify either makefile.a41 or makefile.a32, depending on which version of AIX you are using, by changing tcap.o to tinfo.o and tcap.c to tinfo.c. In os_unix.h, change the line just above "#defined TERMINFO 1" by appending " || defined(a32) || defined(a41)". This is line 94 in the 3.95 release, but don't rely on the line # for other versions. bill@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu also mentioned a fix to tinfo.c by changing the following lines: original line: setupterm (0, 1, &err); modified line: setupterm((char *)0, 1, &err); original line: setupterm(0, 1, 0); modified line: setupterm((char *)0, 1, (int *)0); I sent a bug report about the os_unix.h and makefile fixes, and I hope that the Pine folks incorporate these changes in the next release, since the fix is included in the bug report (don't they wish all bug reports included their own fixes!). ######################################################################## Dan Cogliano State of Maryland Judicial Information Systems 2661 Riva Road, Annapolis, MD USA 21401 Phone: (410) 841-1050 Fax: (410) 794-7170 ######################################################################## From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:40:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19823; Fri, 11 Oct 96 15:40:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA07716 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:35:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from artsci.wustl.edu (artsci.wustl.edu [128.252.93.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA07711 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:35:31 -0700 Received: from localhost by artsci.wustl.edu (SMI-8.6/ECL-A1.27) id RAA28627; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 17:35:30 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 17:35:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Melissa Anne Newman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII when i open my account it says that i have new mail, but when i go to read my new messages it will not allow me to open the inbox. it says that my inbox is not in valid mailbox format. i have no idea what this means and it just happened, because i received mail last night. thank you, melissa newman 727-4085 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 16:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24485; Fri, 11 Oct 96 16:25:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA08855 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 16:19:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA08850 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 16:19:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBqkn-00038BC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 16:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen Subject: Re: "Unexpected Changes to INBOX" - help! Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 03:27:40 +0200 Message-Id: <325DA28C.3F54@dit.ou.dk> References: <53jrmn$7b6@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stephen Balbach wrote: > Problem: About every 10 minutes or whenever I need to write to my > inbox (new mail comes in or deleteing mail) there are error messages > regarding the INBOX and pine aborts and asks to quit and restart. The > error messages include "INBOX length 0 aborting..".."invalid mailbox > format".." unknown error consult an expert".. They all relate to > the inbox and it appears the inbox is being written too when it should = not > be. When we see stuff like that around here it is usually caused by the user=20 (for some reason) running both POP3 and IMAP at the same time. You shouldn't for some reason have tried using the Netscape Navigator Mail facilities? That is the usual cause here (except we don't have=20 the mail NFS mounted, so the users have to set it up to the POP3 server first). Give Netscape brainsurgery and tell it to forget all about your mail! Regards,=20 -- Thorbj=F8rn Ravn Andersen "...and...Tubular Bells!" http://www.dit.ou.dk/~ravn From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 16:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16954; Fri, 11 Oct 96 16:28:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA00993 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 16:21:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id QAA00988 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 16:21:17 -0700 From: msw@mailya.yakima.com Received: from uucp1.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp1.UU.NET [192.48.96.32]) id QQblaj28660; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 19:21:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailya.UUCP by uucp1.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 19:21:16 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by mailya.yakima.com id AA845075158 Fri, 11 Oct 96 16:05:58 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 96 16:05:58 Message-Id: <9609118450.AA845075158@mailya.yakima.com> To: "Pine email discussion group" Subject: Cannot receive messages in Pine After installing Pine v3.95 on an IBM AIX v3.2.5 machine, every user but one is sending and receiving mail without problems. Configuration: UNIX host running Pine v3.95 and sendmail, on AIX 3.2.5 SMTPLINK product by cc:Mail, running on a PC gateway cc:Mail for Windows for most users Pine v3.95 on UNIX for other users (Used to have WordPerfect Office email for UNIX) One particular user has always been able to send/receive email without problems. After installation, however, this one user cannot receive any messages. Also, most messages this user sends are not getting sent to their recipients (some work fine). The user has a /u/username/.forward file that points to the SMTPLINK gateway. The entry in .forward is of the format: username@smtplink SMTPLINK is defined as a valid hostname in /etc/hosts. The aliases file has been reprocessed (with newaliases). The sendmail daemon has been reloaded. The WordPerfect Office daemon has been removed. When I send an email to any other Pine mail recipient, the outbound message gets properly copied into the /usr/spool/mqueue directory and awaits handling by sendmail. When the mail arrives for most users, the inbound file is properly appended to the /usr/spool/mail/username file. Not so for this one user. Regardless of who sends the message, this one user's /usr/spool/mail/username file ever gets appended with the new email message. I cannot determine why, all of a sudden following the Pine email installation, this one user fails to send/receive messages properly. No doubt, it's due to something simple, but darned if I can see it ... Any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated. :) - Michael ------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Wright, Systems Analyst email: msw@yakima.com Yakima Products, Inc. Ph: 707-826-8175 P.O. Box 4899, Arcata, CA 95521 (USA) Fx: 707-826-8149 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 17:19:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25265; Fri, 11 Oct 96 17:19:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA02396 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 17:15:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA02391 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 17:15:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBrdQ-00038BC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 17:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: interval on checking the mail queue Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 19:32:34 -0400 Message-Id: References: <53ekgq$kgk@ultron.rnb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <53ekgq$kgk@ultron.rnb.com> On 8 Oct 1996, it was written: > Is there a command line switch or a setting in the > config on 3.95 to change the time interval when pine checks > for new mail? Or is this a compilation option? I'm on version 3.94, not 3.95, but I suspect the configuration option is the same in both: mail-check-interval. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 17:19:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25699; Fri, 11 Oct 96 17:19:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA10313 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 17:15:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA10308 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 17:15:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBreQ-00038UC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 17:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: MATHER Subject: Re: Pine & Wyse Terminals Date: 7 Oct 1996 13:19:56 GMT Message-Id: <53b01s$eqg@boursy.news.erols.com> References: <539fo3$c0l@juliana.sprynet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit pvanschi@sprynet.com (P. van Schijndel) wrote: >Hi! > >We use pine on an RS-6000 running AIX 3.2.5. Our IBM 3151 terminals' >arrow keys work properly, but our Wyse 150 terminals do not, forcing >us to use control-P, etc. > >Does anyone else had a similar problem? What was your solution? > >Phil > I had this problem with my Wyse-60 terminals, and someone posted a response about this that went something like this. You can add the option -DTERMCAP_WINS to the STDCFLAGS option in the makefiles in the pine and pico directories. This will disable the ctrl function associated to arrow key, but it will make the arrow keys work. Be sure to do a build clean and delete the existing executables before recompiling. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 17:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25901; Fri, 11 Oct 96 17:28:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA02596 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 17:25:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA02591 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 17:25:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBrlp-00038TC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 17:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: MATHER Subject: Pine compiling errors Date: 7 Oct 1996 13:21:27 GMT Message-Id: <53b04n$eqg@boursy.news.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am having trouble compiling Pine for my new Intel DG Aviion. I compiled using the d-g params, but that was no help. I know this is a fairly new system, but can anybody give me any help with this? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 18:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27006; Fri, 11 Oct 96 18:23:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA11354 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 18:20:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA11349 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 18:20:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBsgV-00038TC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 18:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Slaughter Subject: Re: how do you send mail to your entire address book? Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 23:43:59 -0700 Message-Id: References: <325DB250.2BA8@pathfinder.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <325DB250.2BA8@pathfinder.com> You can set up a distribution list. Go to the addressbook and type (a)dd. Put the "nicks" of all the people you want to send to in the "Addresses" field and put the name of the mailing list ("all" will work) in the "Nickname" field. Compose a letter and type "all" (or whatever the Nickname is) in the "To" field. Pine will put all the appropriate addresses in for you. harry On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Isa Helderman wrote: > Surely there must be a way to send mail to every alias in your address > book. I've tried typing "all" in the TO field, but that's just wishful > thinking. Does anyone know how to do this? > > Thanks, > Isa > > -- ~~~^~ `0^0' (* " *) =====ooO====U====Ooo========================= Harry Slaughter @Infoseek Corporation harrys@netgate.net harry@infoseek.com 408.971.0922 408.567.2920 --------------------------------------------- Harry's Homepage: http://www..netgate.net/~harrys Check out the best new engine on the web: .oO() ---> http://ultra.infoseek.com ( ) ()Oo. =======\ (====( )========================== \_) ) / (_/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 18:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07571; Fri, 11 Oct 96 18:38:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA03743 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 18:35:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA03738 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 18:35:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBsuD-00038TC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 18:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ivan Almaleh Subject: Hur kan man spara filer fren ett e-post till ett disket? HJDLP Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:27:23 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hej, Jag har lite problem med att spara mina brev fr=E5n mitt e-mail l=E5da ti= ll en diskett i datorn. Jag har faktiskt alldrig lyckats att g=F6ra det och jag undrar om n=E5gon kan ge mig tips om hur man kan spara filer fr=E5n e-pos= t till dators diskett enhet. Jag brukar anv=E4da b=E5de PC (telnet program) och Mac (SITcomm program). H=E4lsningar=20 Ivan (ivan@lysator.liu.se)=20 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 19:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27156; Fri, 11 Oct 96 19:15:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA12017 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 19:10:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA12012 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 19:10:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBtSj-00038UC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 19:06 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Addition Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:58:07 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 10 Oct 1996, Ricky Chan wrote: > Add ANSI graphics capabilities.... Signatures and BOLD words would look so > much better...if not ansi, extended DOS Ascii characters This could be very difficult, to put it mildly. First, many people could be using Pine with terminals or terminal emulators that have no ANSI graphics capabilities. What about them? What happens when message streams with ANSI control characters hit their terminals? One possibility is havoc and a lot of swearing at whoever sent such a *&$#@!*?* message. And just what are "extended DOS Ascii characters"? My guess is that you are referring to characters represented by values 128 - 255 on DOS code page 437. I don't have figures, but my hunch is that this is meaningless to the overwhelming majority of Pine users, probably most of whom don't even use DOS at all. Of those who do, many may use code pages other than 437, such as 850 or 819, which do not have those nifty-swifty symbols from CP 437. I'm afraid your suggestion won't fly very far in Pine's real world. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 21:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01786; Fri, 11 Oct 96 21:22:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA05344 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 20:40:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA05338 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 20:40:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBupE-00038UC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 20:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scott@cc.wwu.edu (J. Scott Williams) Subject: Reading MIME Attachments Outside of Pine? Date: 9 Oct 1996 14:50:26 -0700 Message-Id: <53h6n2$ijq@henson.cc.wwu.edu> Some of our users receive MIME encoded email sent to non-mime enabled email readers. How can I process the MIME encoded portion of the email outside of Pine? Or, how can I forward the email to a Pine email reader so that the MIME portion will be seen as a legitimate MIME attachment? Thanks for any help or pointers. -jscott- -- |J. Scott Williams, BH 313 Ph: (360) 650-2868 FAX: (360) 650-7323 | |Admin. Computing Services Internet: scott@cc.wwu.edu | |Western Washington Univ. "Internet--Talking across the electronic| |Bellingham, WA 98225-9061 back fence of the world."-JSW| From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 23:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02656; Fri, 11 Oct 96 23:09:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA14757 for pine-info-out; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 23:05:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA14752 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 23:05:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBx6e-00038BC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 22:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dchapman@canwest.victoria.bc.ca (David Chapman) Subject: sent-mail folder displays wrong in pine 3.93 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 14:44:11 GMT Message-Id: <53b4u7$7e4@news.pinc.com> Good day all. We have recently installed pine 3.93 over 3.91 on a Linux system and have incurred the following problem. A user dials in using Telix 3.15 and sends mail using extended characters to communicate in French. When we were using pine 3.91 this user could view his sent-mail folder and still see the message as it was entered. Now, with pine 3.93, he sees DOS extended characters - you know, the ones that make lines and boxes under DOS - when trying to view the sent-mail folder. He composes his mail off-line, uploads it and uses pine's ^R to read in the file. At this point he can view the message as it was typed. Incoming mail can be viewed correctly. Anyone know how we can help this user view his sent-mail folder? Thanks, Dave dchapman@access.victoria.bc.ca From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 00:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03102; Sat, 12 Oct 96 00:04:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA07654 for pine-info-out; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 00:00:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA07649 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 00:00:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vBxxy-00038BC; Fri, 11 Oct 96 23:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ted Chang Subject: speed Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:43:52 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII is there any way to use a PC-based pine so that i don't have to wait on my incredibly slow connection while i type up mesages? that iway i can just type them up regular PC speed and only have to rely on my modem to actually send the message once it's completed. email chang@gusun.georgetown.edu thanks! ted From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 00:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03278; Sat, 12 Oct 96 00:30:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA15671 for pine-info-out; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 00:25:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA15666 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 00:25:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vByKq-00038BC; Sat, 12 Oct 96 00:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Why is my .addressbook ReadOnly? Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:02:31 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 26 Sep 1996, (TSI)Ty Haeber wrote: > I recently installed pine v3.95 on our SunOS machine. When I try to > modify the global addressbook, it is flagged as ReadOnly. The setting in > /usr/local/lib/pine.conf is.... > > global-address-book=/usr/local/sun1/pine3.89/.addressbook > > The file has the correct permissions (666). Am I missing something? Any > help would be greatly appreciated! > All global-address-book's are ReadOnly to simplify access contention problems. If you want to manually update a global addressbook, list it as one of your personal addressbooks. --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 00:33:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03314; Sat, 12 Oct 96 00:33:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA15734 for pine-info-out; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 00:31:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.martek.net (server.martek.net [198.79.92.194]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id AAA15729 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 00:31:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (maverick@localhost) by server.martek.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id CAA13306 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 02:31:03 -0500 Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 02:31:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Maverick To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine 3.95 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey guys, I'm having a little bit of a problem with PINE version 3.95... My service provider, who is running Linux, installed v3.95 tonight. Whenever I load Pine, get a message across the bottom of the screen (on the line right above the keying options) that says: "error creating/var/spool/mail/maverick.locl.845103665.13224.server.martek.net" Please tell me what this is and how I can fix it... Other than this, I love version 3.95! Thanks alot, Matt Coleman maverick@martek.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 00:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03346; Sat, 12 Oct 96 00:38:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA08072 for pine-info-out; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 00:35:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA08067 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 00:35:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vByWm-00038TC; Sat, 12 Oct 96 00:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Using IMAP to the localhost. Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:23:43 -0700 Message-Id: References: <32483903.167E@kindred.whoi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32483903.167E@kindred.whoi.edu> On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, Scott A. McIntyre wrote: > I am surprised by my lack of ability to figure this out, so please bare > with this this no doubt supremely easy question. > > I want my mail users when they type "pine" to contact the IMAP server on > the local host and get their mail that way rather than reading from > /var/mail/username (SGI's location). How can I do this? > > I think this is tied up with my inability to figure out how to specify a > remote INBOX on a remote host...whenever I try to add a folder as > "{host.wherever}INBOX" I always get an error about INBOX being used... > That specification is correct. Have you tested the IMAP server manually? You can do this by telnetting to port 143 on the server. If you allow pre-authenticated (rsh) access, try "rsh host.wherever /etc/rimapd". --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 02:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04694; Sat, 12 Oct 96 02:35:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA09588 for pine-info-out; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 02:31:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA09583 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 02:31:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vC0LB-00038BC; Sat, 12 Oct 96 02:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rasheed Baqai Subject: Re: X-Authentication-Warning ... Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:23:10 -0700 Message-Id: References: <53c6oi$m78$1@code.ripco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <53c6oi$m78$1@code.ripco.com> 1. I assume you changed the user domain. 2. Try localhost as the smtp server (yes -- type localhost in the config space -- it may not mean anything different, but it will probably get rid of the problem). Rasheed On 8 Oct 1996, David Richards wrote: > In article , > Abhay Roy wrote: > >Any clues on this warning message ? I tried running the binary with my uid, > >and setuid (with root ownership). Still the same .. > > > >From akr@cisco.com Mon Oct 7 15:11:16 1996 > >X-Authentication-Warning: rabhay-ss20.cisco.com: akr owned process doing -bs > >Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 15:09:50 -0700 (PDT) > >From: Abhay Roy > >To: Abhay Roy > > I believe the authentication warning is coming from the mail daemon, not > Pine. '-bs' as an option to sendmail, etc tells it to accept a message > using SMTP protocol. Presumably the Pine mailer is invoking sendmail to > deliver the message, and something in the mailer configuration thinks this > is suspicious and adds this header. _________________________________________________________________________ Rasheed*University of California, Irvine - Information & Computer Science A. * http://www.ics.uci.edu/~rbaqai/ * Baqai ***********************rasheed@poboxes.com************************ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 03:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05418; Sat, 12 Oct 96 03:54:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA18085 for pine-info-out; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 03:46:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA18080 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 03:46:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vC1Tj-00038BC; Sat, 12 Oct 96 03:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roland@spinnaker.rhein.de (Roland Rosenfeld) Subject: Re: Does PINE support pgp? Date: 9 Oct 1996 01:08:14 +0200 Message-Id: <53emsu$hi1@spinnaker.rhein.de> References: Michael Darius wrote: > Just curious if there is a way to set up PINE to use PGP (Pretty > Good Privacy) as its encryption system. Since 3.92 pine supports external filters which allow to realize PGP support. You will find souch filters at http://www.rhein.de/~roland/pgppine/ Ciao Roland -- * Internet: roland@spinnaker.rhein.de * Fido: 2:2450/42 * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 08:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07143; Sat, 12 Oct 96 08:23:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA13573 for pine-info-out; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 08:21:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA13568 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 08:21:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vC5p5-00038BC; Sat, 12 Oct 96 08:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: Does PINE support pgp? Date: 8 Oct 1996 19:22:38 GMT Message-Id: <53e9lu$8pn@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article , Michael Darius writes: > Just curious if there is a way to set up PINE to use PGP (Pretty Good > Privacy) as its encryption system. Please reply....Michael Darius Pine allows one to use PGP as a filter for en-/de-cryption. I have written a web page for this purpose: http://www.pharm.med.uc.edu/~yuan/pine_pgp.html It is not too hard to do. You can see the prompts for passphrase and error messages if applicable. There are a few other approaches for doing PGP in Pine. If you do a web search (e.g. webcrawler), you'll find them. Cheers! Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu for my PGP pub. key= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 10:21:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08296; Sat, 12 Oct 96 10:21:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA22650 for pine-info-out; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 10:17:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA22635 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 10:17:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vC7Zm-00038BC; Sat, 12 Oct 96 10:10 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Simon Oldfield Subject: Fcc field for addresses in PC-Pine 3.95 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:13:37 -0900 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a limit on the length of the value of the Fcc field for addresses in PC-Pine 3.95 ? I have set up an address and selected a folder for mail to that address to be Fcc'd to. This all works a treat but when I go to save mail FROM THAT ADDRESS the folder name is truncated (at about 64 characters I think). Please reply by email to S.Oldfield@nla.gov.au Thanks in advance Simon Oldfield _____________________________________________________________________ Simon Oldfield Email: S.Oldfield@nla.gov.au CSC Australia Phone: +61-6-262-1128 A Unit of Computer Sciences Corporation Fax: +61-6-273-2116 _____________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 10:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08324; Sat, 12 Oct 96 10:22:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA22719 for pine-info-out; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 10:20:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id KAA22714 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 10:20:06 -0700 Received: from tuppence.cac.washington.edu (tuppence.cac.washington.edu [140.142.189.6]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA24682; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 10:20:02 -0700 Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 10:21:02 -0700 () From: Terry Gray To: Nancy McGough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: phoney INBOX for PC Pine? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes, PC-Pine insists on having an IMAP folder open before it will send a message. It puts some info derived from the validated IMAP login into the outgoing message so that faked email can be traced. Offline support in PC-Pine is planned, but not yet available. -teg On 7 Oct 1996, Nancy McGough wrote: > dmartin@iastate.edu (David Martin) writes: > >I wish to use PC Pine to send but not receive. My site has no IMAP > >server. How can I configure PC Pine so that it does not fail with an > >error message that it can't open the INBOX. > > One possibility might be to use an anonymous IMAP server and > one of their public folders as your fake INBOX. Does anyone > know if this will work? Does PC-Pine require an IMAP connection > to be able to send messages? > > Thanks, > Nancy > > -- > <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< > @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ > (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) > ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 12:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09572; Sat, 12 Oct 96 12:04:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA24167 for pine-info-out; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 12:02:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id MAA24162 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 12:02:39 -0700 From: msw@mailya.yakima.com Received: from uucp4.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp4.UU.NET [192.48.96.35]) id QQbldk07836; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 15:02:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailya.UUCP by uucp4.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 15:02:37 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by mailya.yakima.com id AA845146774 Sat, 12 Oct 96 11:59:34 Date: Sat, 12 Oct 96 11:59:34 Message-Id: <9609128451.AA845146774@mailya.yakima.com> To: "Pine email discussion group" Subject: Re[2]: Pine & Wyse Terminals On an RS/6000 under AIX 3.2.5, I made the following changes: In the ./pine/makefile.a32 file, added the "-DTERMCAP_WINS" entry: STDCFLAGS= -Dconst= -DA32 -DSYSTYPE=\"A32\" -DMOUSE -DTERMCAP_WINS And in the ../pico/makefile.a32 file, added the "-DTERMCAP_WINS" entry: STDCFLAGS= -D_ALL_SOURCE -Da32 -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE -DTERMCAP_WINS After doing a "./build clean" and a "./build a32" to recompile, the function keys now work great on our Wyse-50 terminals. Also tried this same change on an RS/6000 running AIX 4.1.4. It works fine. Thanks for the tip! - Michael ------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Wright, Systems Analyst email: msw@yakima.com Yakima Products, Inc. Ph: 707-826-8175 P.O. Box 4899, Arcata, CA 95521 (USA) Fx: 707-826-8149 ------------------------------------------------------------------ pvanschi@sprynet.com (P. van Schijndel) wrote: >Hi! > >We use pine on an RS-6000 running AIX 3.2.5. Our IBM 3151 terminals' >arrow keys work properly, but our Wyse 150 terminals do not, forcing >us to use control-P, etc. and mather@pop.erols.com responded: I had this problem with my Wyse-60 terminals, and someone posted a response about this that went something like this. You can add the option -DTERMCAP_WINS to the STDCFLAGS option in the makefiles in the pine and pico directories. This will disable the ctrl function associated to arrow key, but it will make the arrow keys work. Be sure to do a build clean and delete the existing executables before recompiling. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 14:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10696; Sat, 12 Oct 96 14:35:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA25946 for pine-info-out; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 14:32:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from polaris.umuc.edu (polaris.umuc.edu [131.171.11.22]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id OAA25941 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 14:32:47 -0700 Received: from ahairsto@localhost ("localhost") by polaris.umuc.edu (8.7.6/16.2) with SMTP; id RAA28530 Sat, 12 Oct 1996 17:32:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 17:32:43 -0400 (EDT) From: ahairsto To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help:Inbox is Read ONLY Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In my Inbox I can "view" new messages, but unable to delete because it says --Read Only." Is there a command to "take away the read only?" Thanks ahairsto@polaris.umuc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 14:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10723; Sat, 12 Oct 96 14:39:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA18522 for pine-info-out; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 14:37:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA18515 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 14:37:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCBe6-00038BC; Sat, 12 Oct 96 14:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ahk@chinet.chinet.com (Adam H. Kerman) Subject: Re: no wrap Date: 9 Oct 1996 23:25:27 -0500 Message-Id: <53htrn$3rm@chinet.chinet.com> References: <325C19E7.41C6@stfx.ca> In article <325C19E7.41C6@stfx.ca>, John Andrea wrote: >Heres an option I would like to see added to pine -w >which will make the editing behave like pico, no wrap at all. Ah, but you may do this now. In your configuration, use enable-alternate-editor-cmd. In the composer, while in the body of the message, you will be able to use the command ^_. You will then be asked if you wish to use the editor defined with your $EDITOR variable, or you may specify another option. This will allow you to compose messages without wordwrap using pico -w. The other 2 editor configuration settings, enable-alternate-editor-implicitly and define editor, are not useful for your purpose. You wouldn't wish to use this feature for all composing tasks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 18:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13165; Sat, 12 Oct 96 18:56:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA29208 for pine-info-out; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 18:53:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA29203 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 18:53:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCFg7-00038BC; Sat, 12 Oct 96 18:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harrys@ng.netgate.net (Harry Slaughter) Subject: Re: cut and paste Date: 12 Oct 1996 06:52:47 GMT Message-Id: <53nf7v$fpg@ss.netgate.net> References: If you're using vi, you can use ":r " from the edit mode to insert entire files into the text. Just edit a file to you're liking before mailing, and insert the whole file. If you aren't using Vi, you're really missing out. Harry G. Nylund (aradia@online.dct.com) wrote: : I have a couple messages in my saved folder. I want to cut sections out of : each and compose a new message including those cuts. I can't seem to find : a way to do that. Any suggestions? : Aradia From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 21:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14163; Sat, 12 Oct 96 21:07:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA23179 for pine-info-out; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 21:03:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA23174 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 21:03:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCHdU-00038BC; Sat, 12 Oct 96 20:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: snow@netrunner.net (bsnow) Subject: Error: Can't resize free storage Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 03:29:59 GMT Message-Id: <53pn54$mqd@amberjack.netrunner.net> I would appreciate any advice regarding the following error: Bug in Pine detected: can't resize free storage This occurs when trying to run Pine as root. I believe I have enough free space on my partition. Pine runs ok under other UID's. I am running Pine on Linux BTW. THanks for any help or pointers to documentation. --Bill From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 21:26:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14345; Sat, 12 Oct 96 21:26:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA00950 for pine-info-out; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 21:23:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA00945 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 21:23:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCHxu-00038BC; Sat, 12 Oct 96 21:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: How to display header? Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 19:46:10 -0400 Message-Id: References: <53b8hr$itt@hermes.acs.unt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <53b8hr$itt@hermes.acs.unt.edu> On 7 Oct 1996, Thomas Fritz Ramm wrote: > How can I display the whole "technical" header using Pine3.95? With > "technical" header I mean all the info that shows received by machine.com > at that time and so forth. Have you looked at the Configuration options and read the online help screens? If so, you would have found that if you toggle on the enable-full-header-cmd, then when you are viewing a message just press the 'H' key to see the headers in all their gory details. This setting will stay in place at least until the end of your session unless you press 'H' again to turn full headers off. Pine comes with a wealth of online documentation, especially for configuration options, but it does not read itself for you. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access..digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15797; Sun, 13 Oct 96 00:32:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA25403 for pine-info-out; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:28:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA25398 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:28:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCKui-00038BC; Sun, 13 Oct 96 00:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: /etc/passwd Date: 13 Oct 1996 07:02:07 GMT Message-Id: <53q45f$8hg@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: <325DD335.1385@ultinet.com> Un jour, RT (ramt@ultinet.com) affirmait publiquement que: | Is there any way to configure pine so it will not need access to | /etc/passwd ? Look at the option [X] quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file from 'M'ain 'S'etup 'C'onfiguration HTH... (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ Elle était comme la plupart des gens, toujours si contents d'être ce qu'ils ne sont pas. -- H. Bianciotti From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 01:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16109; Sun, 13 Oct 96 01:23:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA03445 for pine-info-out; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 01:18:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA03440 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 01:18:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCLhD-00038BC; Sun, 13 Oct 96 01:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ahk@chinet.chinet.com (Adam H. Kerman) Subject: Re: Carriage return in PICO Date: 8 Oct 1996 15:17:42 -0500 Message-Id: <53ect6$5an@chinet.chinet.com> References: <5393ui$h1n@news.cyberenet.net> <539tei$quh@chinet.chinet.com> <53e1p9$ope@news.cyberenet.net> In article <53e1p9$ope@news.cyberenet.net>, Robert Gonzalez wrote: >Adam H. Kerman (ahk@chinet.chinet.com) wrote: >: In article <5393ui$h1n@news.cyberenet.net>, >: Robert Gonzalez wrote: >: >Pico doesn't seem to use character 13 for end of line. >: >When I download a textfile, everything is all run together. >: >Does anyone know how to deal with this problem other than manually >: >editing the file after I download it? >: [I assume you are downloading from a Unix to a DOS system.] >: Text files in Unix and DOS use different end-of-line conventions. Unix >: uses a "New Line" character (same as LF in DOS). DOS (and CP/M) uses 2 >: characters, a Carriage Return and Line Feed at the end of each line. The >: Mac uses only a CR. >: If you use Z-MODEM to download and invoke it from the Unix command line, >: use the -a switch to automatically change to DOS end-of-line conventions. >: Thusly: >: sz -a my.text.file >This sounds like it would solve my problem, only I'm not using a dos >computer, and I don't have zmodem available, just xmodem and ymodem. >Everything else works prefectly, it's only when I download a textfile >that I have the problem. >I've been going in and adding <> where there should be using a CR and >using search and replace in my wordprocessing program. >This is tedious So you're on a Mac? As I said earlier, the end-of-line convention is CR. Since you can do search and replace already, simply substitute CR for NL. (ascii 013 for ascii 010) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 02:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16464; Sun, 13 Oct 96 02:18:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA26547 for pine-info-out; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 02:13:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA26542 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 02:13:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCMX1-00038BC; Sun, 13 Oct 96 02:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rebling@xmission.xmission.com (Richard Ebling) Subject: How to read imported mail folders? Date: 13 Oct 1996 01:24:22 -0600 Message-Id: <53q5f6$snh@xmission.xmission.com> I have a great many received messages, saved in a number of different folders. To reduce my use of disk space on my host, I want to download these (which seem to be ordinary text files, basically) to my Linux box at home, then use PINE to view/sort/extract these on my own disk. However, when I've tried to do this, I have been unable to make PINE see them as valid folders. Any suggestions or pointers for further reading? TIA, Richard Ebling From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 04:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17631; Sun, 13 Oct 96 04:22:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA05537 for pine-info-out; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 04:19:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA05532 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 04:19:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCOTX-00038BC; Sun, 13 Oct 96 04:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ez073390@boris.ucdavis.edu (Thang Yuen) Subject: Trying again Date: 13 Oct 1996 07:19:01 GMT Message-Id: <53q555$rae@mark.ucdavis.edu> -- Just playing around? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 05:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17884; Sun, 13 Oct 96 05:07:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA28589 for pine-info-out; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 05:04:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA28584 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 05:04:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCP9i-00038BC; Sun, 13 Oct 96 04:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jyetse@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (J.Y.E. Tse) Subject: Re: how i can send Mail using different Name ? Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 22:20:08 GMT References: <01bbb7bd$6a63fbe0$b0035ac2@rabia> In article <01bbb7bd$6a63fbe0$b0035ac2@rabia>, rabia wrote: >Hi all , i need help using pine 3.95 > >My work is Support mail and i want to be able to send email using other >names >how i can change the " From field " name ? If all you want to change is only your name, you can go to the Setup Configuration menu from the Main Menu by pressing "s", "c". The first field should be "personal-name". You can modify it. Hope this helps. J. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 06:58:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18649; Sun, 13 Oct 96 06:58:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA07117 for pine-info-out; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 06:54:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA07112 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 06:54:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCQuy-00038BC; Sun, 13 Oct 96 06:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Telor@ifnet.mci.net Subject: i DIDN'T BELIVE IT BUT IT WORKS Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 09:38:04 -0400 Message-Id: <3260F0BC.70CA@ifnet.mci.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'M NOT JOKING THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY BUT, DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT JUST TRY IT. IT ONLY TAKES A FEW MINUTES. I saw an article in an internet newsgroup telling me I could make $50,000 within a month for an investment of only $5. I thought it was a huge joke. I spoke to my other college friends, and they all agreed it was some kind of scam. I can't stand scams, because usually someone gets burned, and I didn't want it to be me. Of course, I rejected the idea at first. after a short period of about two weeks, I thought : "I have already heard of such things. But on the Internet ?!?!? ". I decided that even if I had to throw $5 into the fire, I wouldn't mind it that much, and gave it a try. After all I needed a LOT more than five dollars. One week later, I began receiving money -- every day! I could not believe it! Soon, hundreds, and then thousands of dollars began to roll in. Within 6 weeks, I had received a total of $47,326! It came from everywhere in the world. My bank account has changed its "-" into a big "+" (++++)!!! If you follow the three steps below, there is no reason why the same shouldn't happen to you! This is a legitimate investment opportunity. You invest $5, and you receive a return on your investment. So does the next investor. NOT ILLEGAL, NOT A CHAIN LETTER- PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE. If you are not interested, then don't participate, but please print this article and pass it on to someone who may be interested, so they can take advantage. The procedure is simple: 1) Write your name and address, an e-mail address, and the name of the newsgroup where you learned of this on 5 sheets of paper. Below that, write the words, "Please add me to your list." Fold $1 note or bank draft or money order in each piece of paper and send them to the following 5 addresses.: 1. Landon #1 Lakeway Drive Conroe, Texas 77304 USA 2. Beyond Technology 5641 Apgar Street Houston, Texas 77032 USA 3. Daniel DeKonty Lee College #88 1120 N. Ocoee Street Cleveland, TN 37320 USA 4. Don Noel 222 NE Dogwood St #C103 Issaquah, WA 98027 USA 5. Ryan Levine P.O. Box 576 Waterford CT 06385 USA 2) Now remove the top name from the list, and move the other four names up. In other words, #5 becomes #4 and so on. Put your name as the fifth one on the list. Use a simple text editor such as Notepad, in your "accessories" window (If you have MS-Windows),or DOS editor. In fact, any editor will do. 3) Post the article to at least 200 newsgroups. There are17,000, so it shouldn't be hard to find that many. Try posting to as many newsgroups as you can, and the bigger the newsgroup is, the more people are to see your message! You are now in the an order services business, and should start seeing returns within a week or two. Of course, the more newsgroups you post to, the greater your return is. If you wish to remain anonymous, you may use a psuedonym, call yourself "The Manager", "The Boss", whatever but make sure your address is correct. Now, here is why the system works: -Of every 200 posts I made, I received 5 responses. Yes, only 5. You make $5 for every 200 posts with your name at #5. -Each person who sent you $1 now also makes 200 additional postings with your name at #4. ie. 1000 postings. On average therefore, 50 people will send you $1 with your name at #4. $50. -Your 50 new agents make 200 postings each with your name at #3 or 10,000 postings. Average return 500 people = $500. They make 200 postings each with your name at #2=100,000 postings=5000 return at $1 each=$5000. -Finally, 5,000 people make 200 postings with your name at #1 and you get a return of $50,000 before your name drops off the list. AND THATS IF EVERYONE DOWN THE LINE MAKES 200 POSTINGS! Total income in one cycle=$55,000. From time to time, when you see your name no longer on the list, you take the latest posting that appears in the newsgroups, and send out another $5, and put your name at #5, and start posting again. Remember, 200 postings is only a guideline. the more you post, the greater the return. Lets review why you should do this. THE ONLY COST IS $5. Anyone can afford $5 for such an effortless investment with such SPECTACULAR RETURNS. Some people have said to me, "what happens if the scheme is played out and no one sends me any money? "Big Deal, so you lose $5-but what are the chances of that happening ?? Do you Realize that NOBODY cares for the LEGAL chance of winning such a BIG money as 50,000.00 $$$$ ???? and all for a microscopic investment of five separate dollars? just think of all of the new Internet users that join the net every day!!! There are millions of internet users, and millions of new net surfers every month !!! This is the great plus of the Internet, people all over the world can hear you and listen carefully if you talk reasonably. Everyone will take that chance ! I agree, If it wasn't the Internet, and was a small circle of people, the chance wouldn't have been so small. the amount of money had to be 200 times bigger, and the chances were zero. It wouldn't succeed. But here, on the Internet, it is a giant village, where new thousands of members join in every day ! you CAN'T lose !!!! Remember- read the instructions carefully, and play fairly. That's the only way this will work. Get a printout so you can refer back to this article easily. Try to keep a list of everyone that sends you money and always keep an eye on the postings to make sure everyone is playing fairly. You know where your name should be. REMEMBER-HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. YOU DO NOT NEED TO CHEAT THIS IDEA TO MAKE MONEY!! BESIDES,NOT PLAYING THE GAME FAIRLY IS ILLEGAL.SO LET'S BE REASONABLE AND PLAY FAIRLY,SO WE CAN ALL ENJOY THE INTERNET GOLD MINE. GOOD LUCK FOR YOU ALL, And remember, play fair and you'll win, I don't want to mention what might happen to those who won't. AND AGAIN,SEE YOU NEXT TIME WITH SOMETHING YOU WANTED FOR A LONG TIME !!! -- The opinions expressed in this message are my own personal views and do not reflect the official views of Microsoft Corporation From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 07:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18861; Sun, 13 Oct 96 07:27:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA00125 for pine-info-out; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 07:24:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA00120 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 07:24:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCRLK-00038BC; Sun, 13 Oct 96 07:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dean Pentcheff Subject: Re: I requre assistance. Date: 10 Oct 1996 05:23:39 -0400 Message-Id: References: sbailey2@emerald.tufts.edu (Stephen Bailey) writes: > Hello > I would like to know how I Change my password> Everytime i select setup > and then hit (N) for newpassword it goes blank and acts as though I never > selected the setup command. It acts like im on the main menue. Thank you > for your time. > > love stephen Bailey In the tradition of Usenet, where newcomers should receive the benefit of some personal training as they enter, I'll hand out a couple of gratuitous suggestions before addressing your question. Your subject is... a bit harsh, and a bit uninformative. I'm scanning over hundreds of subjects as I read through Usenet news. You "require" assistance from me? I don't think so. Feel free to request it, but don't require it. More importantly, it is crucial to put the... uh... subject of your request into the "Subject:" line. 99% of the time I won't even read a posting whose Subject line doesn't give me a lead on what it contains. A far more useful subject line could have been: Subject: Help with failure to reset password Next (and this is why I won't be able to answer your question): we need to know the details of the platform you're using. Pine is available for a bewildering array of machines and operating systems, each of which is likely to have a different password-setting mechanism. Are you running on a Unix host? Are you running PC Pine? Are you running on a VAX? Also important, what version of Pine are you using? It's entirely possible that you've stumbled across a known bug - we'll never know if we can't tell what you're using. There is simply no way that we could address your question without knowing that. OK, sorry if that all seemed a bit pointed, but a bit of community ettiquette training should happen to all newcomers at some point. The main things to keep in mind when posting a question on Usenet are that you are _requesting_ help from a community where politeness is valued, and that community inhabits every sort of computing system in the world. You must provide enough information about your own system and your own problem to let the appropriate people know how to help you. Best of luck, and welcome to Usenet. -Dean -- N. Dean Pentcheff WWW: http://tbone.biol.sc.edu/~dean/ Biological Sciences, Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29208 (803-777-3936) PGP ID=768/22A1A015 Keyprint=2D 53 87 53 72 4A F2 83 A0 BF CB C0 D1 0E 76 C0 Get PGP keys and information with the command: "finger dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 14:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22626; Sun, 13 Oct 96 14:40:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA12949 for pine-info-out; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 14:35:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA12944 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 14:35:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCY5w-00038BC; Sun, 13 Oct 96 14:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Andrea Subject: no wrap Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 18:32:23 -0300 Message-Id: <325C19E7.41C6@stfx.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Heres an option I would like to see added to pine -w which will make the editing behave like pico, no wrap at all. I find that the wrap often causes problems when subscribing to listservers, in that the persons name gets wrapped to the next line then the listserver complains that no name was given on the subscribe __________________________________________________________________ John Andrea St. Francis Xavier Univ. University Computer Services Antigonish, NS, CANADA B2G 2W5 http://www.stfx.ca/~jandrea/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 18:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24997; Sun, 13 Oct 96 18:49:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA16171 for pine-info-out; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 18:46:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.missouri.edu (mail.missouri.edu [128.206.2.169]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id SAA16166 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 18:46:38 -0700 Received: from bronze.missouri.edu (bronze.missouri.edu [128.206.2.12]) by mail.missouri.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA103316 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 20:46:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (c673565@localhost) by bronze.missouri.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA116334 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 20:45:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: bronze.missouri.edu: c673565 owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 20:45:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Christopher Gamache X-Sender: c673565@bronze.missouri.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Question from Missouri Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello there! I'm having trouble with my account. My address is: c673565@showme.missouri.edued before. I've had this account since last year and on Friday it all of a sudden started doing this. I looked to see if there was a help address and this is what I found. Not only can I not save but it also says that there is a problem with the disk quota when I'm trying to compose a message. I thought maybe it was because I had too many files. I decided to go through and delete some. I deleted about 50+ messages and even some entire files but it still won't stop. Is there something I'm missing? Could it just be "showme" is undergoing routine maintenance? I asked other people and nobody has any clue as to why it is happening. HELP ME!!!!! Chris Gamache From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 18:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24998; Sun, 13 Oct 96 18:49:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA16197 for pine-info-out; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 18:47:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.missouri.edu (mail.missouri.edu [128.206.2.169]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id SAA16192 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 18:47:13 -0700 Received: from bronze.missouri.edu (bronze.missouri.edu [128.206.2.12]) by mail.missouri.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA43996 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 20:47:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (c673565@localhost) by bronze.missouri.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA57658 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 20:46:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: bronze.missouri.edu: c673565 owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 20:46:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Christopher Gamache X-Sender: c673565@bronze.missouri.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Question from Missouri Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello there! I'm having trouble with my account. My address is: c673565@showme.missouri.edued before. I've had this account since last year and on Friday it all of a sudden started doing this. I looked to see if there was a help address and this is what I found. Not only can I not save but it also says that there is a problem with the disk quota when I'm trying to compose a message. I thought maybe it was because I had too many files. I decided to go through and delete some. I deleted about 50+ messages and even some entire files but it still won't stop. Is there something I'm missing? Could it just be "showme" is undergoing routine maintenance? I asked other people and nobody has any clue as to why it is happening. HELP ME!!!!! Chris Gamache From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 18:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25011; Sun, 13 Oct 96 18:50:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA08824 for pine-info-out; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 18:46:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.missouri.edu (mail.missouri.edu [128.206.2.169]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id SAA08819 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 18:46:55 -0700 Received: from bronze.missouri.edu (bronze.missouri.edu [128.206.2.12]) by mail.missouri.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA103192 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 20:46:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (c673565@localhost) by bronze.missouri.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA06384 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 20:46:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: bronze.missouri.edu: c673565 owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 20:46:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Christopher Gamache X-Sender: c673565@bronze.missouri.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Question from Missouri Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello there! I'm having trouble with my account. My address is: c673565@showme.missouri.edued before. I've had this account since last year and on Friday it all of a sudden started doing this. I looked to see if there was a help address and this is what I found. Not only can I not save but it also says that there is a problem with the disk quota when I'm trying to compose a message. I thought maybe it was because I had too many files. I decided to go through and delete some. I deleted about 50+ messages and even some entire files but it still won't stop. Is there something I'm missing? Could it just be "showme" is undergoing routine maintenance? I asked other people and nobody has any clue as to why it is happening. HELP ME!!!!! Chris Gamache From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 21:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26438; Sun, 13 Oct 96 21:16:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA17951 for pine-info-out; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 21:12:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gpbkk.th.org ([203.155.63.238]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA17946 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 21:11:57 -0700 Received: from har ([203.155.24.68]) by gpbkk.th.org (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02805; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 11:15:24 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 11:19:31 -0700 (GMT) From: Harish Srinivasan Reply-To: Harish Srinivasan To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help in PC-PINE Message-Id: X-X-Sender: harish@gpnet.gpbkk.th.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ****************************************************** * Harish Srinivasan * * Manager - Information Systems * * G Premjee Ltd. * * 7th Floor,Cathay House, N Sathorn Road * * Bangkok 10500, Thailand * * Tel:(662)6338424 Fax:(662)2366836-8 * * E-Mail :harish@gpnet.gpbkk.th.org * ****************************************************** Hello, Our current confign: We have an Internet setup with some Personal E-mail Boxes as well as Group E-mail boxes . We have installed PC-PINE 3.94 here, accessing Internet E-Mail thru a Solaris Unix box running IMAP . For Group E-mail boxes , the foll is the confign : 1. HOME=F:\IMAIL ( Default FCC is in Novell F: drive ) For PC-Pine clients, the incoming folder collections include all the group Inboxes . F:\IMAIL dir contains the the folder called "OUTBOX.MTX" contains copy of all outgoing messages . PROBLEM: 1.The folder OUTBOX.MTX on F:\imail seem to be getting corrupted very often . That means, it can be seen/opened as a TXT file under WIndows but cannot be recognised as folder by PC-PINE . The OUTBOX.MTX is made shareable and delete inhibit . But still , the individual messages can be deleted . 2.The Incoming folders need to be made read-only so that nobody (except root) can delete messages . Tried to search Pine-Information but could not get any solutions. Help in any form would be appreciated . Thanks & Regds, Harish PINERC FILE IS BELOW: # Updated by Pine(tm) 3.95, copyright 1989-1996 University of Washington. # # Pine configuration file -- customize as needed. # # This file sets the configuration options used by Pine and PC-Pine. If you # are using Pine on a Unix system, there may be a system-wide configuration # file which sets the defaults for these variables. There are comments in # this file to explain each variable, but if you have questions about # specific settings see the section on configuration options in the Pine # notes. On Unix, run pine -conf to see how system defaults have been set. # For variables that accept multiple values, list elements are separated # by commas. A line beginning with a space or tab is considered to be a # continuation of the previous line. For a variable to be unset its value # must be blank. To set a variable to the empty string its value should # be "". You can override system defaults by setting a variable to the # empty string. Switch variables are set to either "yes" or "no", and # default to "no". # Lines beginning with "#" are comments, and ignored by Pine. ########################### Essential Parameters ########################### # Over-rides your full name from Unix password file. Required for PC-Pine. personal-name=Harish Srinivasan # Your login/e-mail user name user-id=harish # Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail. user-domain=gpnet.gpbkk.th.org # List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail. smtp-server=gpnet.gpbkk.th.org # NNTP server for posting news. Also sets news-collections for news reading. nntp-server= # Path of (local or remote) INBOX, e.g. ={mail.somewhere.edu}inbox # Normal Unix default is the local INBOX (usually /usr/spool/mail/$USER). inbox-path={gpnet.gpbkk.th.org}INBOX ###################### Collections, Folders, and Files ##################### # List of incoming msg folders besides INBOX, e.g. ={host2}inbox, {host3}inbox # Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-host-name}folder-path incoming-folders=PSL {gpnet.gpbkk.th.org/user=psl}mail/psl, GP {gpnet.gpbkk.th.org/user=gp}mail/gp, JFT {gpnet.gpbkk.th.org/user=jft}mail/jft # List of directories where saved-message folders may be. First one is # the default for Saves. Example: Main {host1}mail/[], Desktop mail\[] # Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-hostname}optnl-directory-path[] folder-collections=[] # List, only needed if nntp-server not set, or news is on a different host # than used for NNTP posting. Examples: News *[] or News *{host3/nntp}[] # Syntax: optnl-label *{news-host/protocol}[] news-collections= # List of folder pairs; the first indicates a folder to archive, and the # second indicates the folder read messages in the first should # be moved to. incoming-archive-folders= # List of context and folder pairs, delimited by a space, to be offered for # pruning each month. For example: {host1}mail/[] mumble pruned-folders= # Over-rides default path for sent-mail folder, e.g. =old-mail (using first # folder collection dir) or ={host2}sent-mail or ="" (to suppress saving). # Default: sent-mail (Unix) or SENTMAIL.MTX (PC) in default folder collection. default-fcc=OUTBOX # Over-rides default path for saved-msg folder, e.g. =saved-messages (using first # folder collection dir) or ={host2}saved-mail or ="" (to suppress saving). # Default: saved-messages (Unix) or SAVEMAIL.MTX (PC) in default folder collection. default-saved-msg-folder= # Over-rides default path for postponed messages folder, e.g. =pm (which uses # first folder collection dir) or ={host4}pm (using home dir on host4). # Default: postponed-msgs (Unix) or POSTPOND.MTX (PC) in default fldr coltn. postponed-folder= # If set, specifies where already-read messages will be moved upon quitting. read-message-folder= # Over-rides default path for signature file. Default is ~/.signature signature-file= # List of file or path names for global/shared addressbook(s). # Default: none # Syntax: optnl-label path-name global-address-book="" # List of file or path names for personal addressbook(s). # Default: ~/.addressbook (Unix) or \PINE\ADDRBOOK (PC) # Syntax: optnl-label path-name address-book=\pine\addrbook ############################### Preferences ################################ # List of features; see Pine's Setup/options menu for the current set. # e.g. feature-list= select-without-confirm, signature-at-bottom # Default condition for all of the features is no-. feature-list=compose-maps-delete-key-to-ctrl-d, enable-mail-check-cue, enable-incoming-folders, expanded-view-of-folders # Pine executes these keys upon startup (e.g. to view msg 13: i,j,1,3,CR,v) initial-keystroke-list= # Only show these headers (by default) when composing messages default-composer-hdrs= # Add these customized headers (and possible default values) when composing customized-hdrs=Return-Receipt-To:harish@gpnet.gpbkk.th.org # When viewing messages, include this list of headers viewer-hdrs= # Determines default folder name for Saves... # Choices: default-folder, by-sender, by-from, by-recipient, last-folder-used. # Default: "default-folder", i.e. "saved-messages" (Unix) or "SAVEMAIL" (PC). saved-msg-name-rule= # Determines default name for Fcc... # Choices: default-fcc, by-recipient, last-fcc-used. # Default: "default-fcc" (see also "default-fcc=" variable.) fcc-name-rule= # Sets presentation order of messages in Index. Choices: # subject, from, arrival, date, size. Default: "arrival". sort-key= # Sets presentation order of address book entries. Choices: dont-sort, # fullname-with-lists-last, fullname, nickname-with-lists-last, nickname # Default: "fullname-with-lists-last". addrbook-sort-rule= # Sets the default folder and collectionoffered at the Goto Command's prompt. goto-default-rule= # Reflects capabilities of the display you have. Default: US-ASCII. # Typical alternatives include ISO-8859-x, (x is a number between 1 and 9). character-set= # Specifies the program invoked by ^_ in the Composer, # or the "enable-alternate-editor-implicitly" feature. editor= # Specifies the program invoked by ^T in the Composer. speller= # Specifies the column of the screen where the composer should wrap. composer-wrap-column=74 # Specifies the string to insert when replying to message. reply-indent-string= # Specifies the string to use when sending a message with no to or cc. empty-header-message= # Program to view images (e.g. GIF or TIFF attachments). image-viewer= # If "user-domain" not set, strips hostname in FROM address. (Unix only) use-only-domain-name= ########## Set within or by Pine: No need to edit below this line ########## # Your default printer selection printer= # List of special print commands personal-print-command= # Which category default print command is in personal-print-category= # Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. last-time-prune-questioned=96.10 # Set by Pine; controls display of "new version" message. last-version-used=3.95 # This names the path to an alternative program, and any necessary arguments, # to be used in posting mail messages. Example: # /usr/lib/sendmail -oem -t -oi # or, # /usr/local/bin/sendit.sh # The latter a script found in Pine distribution's contrib/util directory. # NOTE: The program MUST read the message to be posted on standard input, # AND operate in the style of sendmail's "-t" option. sendmail-path= # This names the root of the tree to which the user is restricted when reading # and writing folders and files. For example, on Unix ~/work confines the # user to the subtree beginning with their work subdirectory. # (Note: this alone is not sufficient for preventing access. You will also # need to restrict shell access and so on, see Pine Technical Notes.) # Default: not set (so no restriction) operating-dir= # This variable takes a list of programs that message text is piped into # after MIME decoding, prior to display. display-filters= # This defines a program that message text is piped into before MIME # encoding, prior to sending sending-filters= # A list of alternate addresses the user is known by alt-addresses= # This is a list of formats for address books. Each entry in the list is made # up of space-delimited tokens telling which fields are displayed and in # which order. See help text addressbook-formats=FULLNAME, ADDRESS # This gives a format for displaying the index. It is made # up of space-delimited tokens telling which fields are displayed and in # which order. See help text index-format= # The number of lines of overlap when scrolling through message text viewer-overlap= # Number of lines from top and bottom of screen where single # line scrolling occurs. scroll-margin= # The number of seconds to sleep after writing a status message status-message-delay= # The approximate number of seconds between checks for new mail mail-check-interval=60 # Full path and name of NEWSRC file newsrc-path= # Path and filename of news configation's active file. # The default is typically "/usr/lib/news/active". news-active-file-path= # Directory containing system's news data. # The default is typically "/usr/spool/news" news-spool-directory= # Path and filename of the program used to upload text from your terminal # emulator's into Pine's composer. upload-command= # Text sent to terminal emulator prior to invoking the program defined by # the upload-command variable. # Note: _FILE_ will be replaced with the temporary file used in the upload. upload-command-prefix= # Path and filename of the program used to download text via your terminal # emulator from Pine's export and save commands. download-command= # Text sent to terminal emulator prior to invoking the program defined by # the download-command variable. # Note: _FILE_ will be replaced with the temporary file used in the downlaod. download-command-prefix= # Sets the search path for the mailcap cofiguration file. # NOTE: colon delimited under UNIX, semi-colon delimited under DOS/Windows/OS2. mailcap-search-path= # Sets the search path for the mimetypes cofiguration file. # NOTE: colon delimited under UNIX, semi-colon delimited under DOS/Windows/OS2. mimetype-search-path= # Sets the time in seconds that Pine will attempt to open a network # connection. The default is 30, the minimum is 5, and the maximum is # system defined (typically 75). tcp-open-timeout= # Sets the time in seconds that Pine will attempt to open a UNIX remote # shell connection. The default is 15, min is 5, and max is unlimited. # Zero disables rsh altogether. rsh-open-timeout= # Sets the version number Pine will use as a threshold for offering # its new version message on startup. new-version-threshold= # Extension used for local folder names (".MTX" by default). folder-extension= # Choose: black,blue,green,cyan,red,magenta,yellow,or white (CAPS=BLINKING). normal-foreground-color= normal-background-color= reverse-foreground-color= reverse-background-color= # Name and size of font. font-name=Courier New font-size=9 font-style="" # Name and size of printer font. print-font-name="" print-font-size="" print-font-style="" # Window position in the format: CxR+X+Y # Where C and R are the window size in characters and X and Y are the # screen position of the top left corner of the window. window-position=86x29+0+0td From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 22:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27570; Sun, 13 Oct 96 22:34:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA11982 for pine-info-out; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 22:31:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA11977 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 22:31:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCfXS-00038BC; Sun, 13 Oct 96 22:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bconn@cpcug.org (Barbara Conn) Subject: distribution list question Date: 14 Oct 1996 05:15:29 GMT Message-Id: <53si9h$j5p@news4.digex.net> Colleagues have warned me to limit a Pine distribution list to 100 addresses--I'm told that more than about 100 can result in "problems." I was wondering, could I create a "superlist" consisting of three 100-address lists? Hmmm. Well, I know I *could* create such a list, what I need to know is whether it will work properly if I place the name of the superlist on the Lcc: line? Thus getting around the problem of 100 names per list? :) Not knowing exactly what is the problem with a 100+ name list, it's kind of hard for me to figure whether a superlist with 300 names would work. What limitations do I need to be aware of in using Pine addressbook distribution lists? Thanks to all. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 23:22:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28068; Sun, 13 Oct 96 23:22:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA19763 for pine-info-out; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 23:14:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from odin.cair.du.edu (odin.cair.du.edu [130.253.1.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA19758 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 23:14:03 -0700 Received: by odin.cair.du.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/19Apr96-0816AM) id AA18530; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 00:14:02 -0600 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 00:14:02 -0600 (MDT) From: YARAM BAWOROWSKI To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Bug (ID B50J4): Not able to get email from Japan In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 12 Oct 1996, YARAM BAWOROWSKI wrote: > Hi, My name is Yoram and I am a student at the Univ. od Denver. For the > last 4 weeks I have been having problems with receiving email from japan. > I asked for help here at DU but no budy is able to help me. I > gave Debbie Knaust, my fiance in Japan, my email address and got > from over 20 emails that she has sent me only 2. First, I gave her the following address:ybaworow@du.edu but no message from her came through. Next, I gave the other address which was given to me by the email-department at DU: ybaworow@odin.cair.du.edu and this time only 2 email came through out of over those 20. Debbie has been sending email to other people > at DU and they all have been receiving those email letters (the > messeges have been sent to them under the address of:...@du.edu)! Debbie has never reveived her email back, because of sender > unknown, and she still sends email to people here on campus and they all get her mail. > I, on the other hand, do not have any difficulties to send my email to > japan. Debbie has received all my emails. > > I do not know what else to do since the people here at DU are either > unable or unwilling to help me because it might be to much of a problem > to deal with and maybe it need acertain abount of time to solve this > problem. > > I hope you could help me. I just do not understand why other people at > my university are getting email from Japan with the same address code > and I do not!!! They all get those email on computers which belong to the university and which I use as well. > In case it might help you, the address of Debbie > is:kdebo01d@edu.city.yokohama.jp > > the email office address for solving problems with email at DU is: support@du.edu Yours sincirily, Yoram Baworowski From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 01:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28904; Mon, 14 Oct 96 01:10:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA13861 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 01:06:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA13856 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 01:06:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vChwq-00038TC; Mon, 14 Oct 96 01:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mueller@acs4.acs.ucalgary.ca (John Mueller) Subject: Re: Pine for Mac? Date: 12 Oct 1996 01:31:39 GMT Message-Id: <53msdr$gro@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca> References: <52oh5o$3km@news.ececs.uc.edu> <53k34r$efo@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca> : Do you know of any utility to convert the PINE addressbook into the : MailDrop addressbook format? (MailConverter 2.2 does this for PINE to : Eudora, but Eudora doesn't connect to IMAP) I have since learned that the Mulberry IMAP e-mail client imports a PINE addressbook, but would still be interested to hear of a stand-alone utilitya for PINE to Mail Drop. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 01:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28908; Mon, 14 Oct 96 01:10:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA21149 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 01:06:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA21144 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 01:06:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vChwo-00038BC; Mon, 14 Oct 96 01:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Fred B. Ringel" Subject: Re: PGP & Pine -- another solution? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 02:22:55 GMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 9 Oct 1996, Anthony Towns wrote: > > I've seen a few messages about Pine and PGP integration on this newsgroup, > and most of the solutions proferred suggest using a short shell script as > a filter or an alternate editor. > > I've got a slightly different solution, which uses Richard Gooch's > PGPsendmail package (which is a Unix only thing, AFAIK). pgpsendmail > includes a program called pgpdaemon which sets up some named pipes and, > after you've sent it your passphrase, signs, and decrypts mail for you. > The best solution I've seen is mkpgp. There is a link to it on my PGP-Users Mailing List page (http://pgp.rivertown.net). Once you get this going, you won't have to bother with pgpsendmail or filters or anything else. Its Unix only. But have you seen another integration program that, if it doesn't have a public key for someone will, at your option, automatically invoke lynx and go to the keyserver to lookup the key and offer to add it to your keyring? And of course, it free. Fred -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Protect your Privacy-Authenticate your E-mail Digitally-Use PGP. iQCVAwUBMl7WulSU4cVs4SvxAQHoZgP/Rw0UOP2+FTkeuQah1U87SHUoQrrsEj0V PM94Iekao42HsKH7FaaOhTXgNPGqtdFvoktJWBPOWRv1KeNiVtdWlaN+/onrKONS UBdE13xiNRD3i44V2ZjdXf9e8tiAeCZYk9RSff509Sm9Mqikium6mPjQKDpi+rnz 9hppsPlAu7w= =1pn8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Fred B. Ringel Rivertown.Net Systems Administrator P.O. Box 532 and General Fixer-upper Hastings, New York 10706 Voice/Fax/Support: 914.478.2885 Data: 914-478-4988 Westchester's Rivertown's Full Service Flat-Rate Internet Access Provider ***AND*** PGP-Users Mailing list maintainer--http://pgp.rivertown.net E-mail "SEND-PGPKEY" in the Subject for my Public Key \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 01:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28931; Mon, 14 Oct 96 01:11:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA21156 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 01:06:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA21151 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 01:06:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vChwr-00038UC; Mon, 14 Oct 96 01:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jakes@cris.com (GARY JAKUBOWSKI) Subject: NO ATTACHMENTS - HELP Date: 12 Oct 1996 02:35:51 GMT Message-Id: <53n067$pa2@herald.concentric.net> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 01:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29005; Mon, 14 Oct 96 01:25:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA14023 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 01:21:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA14018 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 01:21:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCiB5-00038BC; Mon, 14 Oct 96 01:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Tse" Subject: Re: How to display header? Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <53b8hr$itt@hermes.acs.unt.edu> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:59:42 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <53b8hr$itt@hermes.acs.unt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 On 7 Oct 1996, Thomas Fritz Ramm wrote: > How can I display the whole "technical" header using Pine3.95? With > "technical" header I mean all the info that shows received by machine.com > at that time and so forth. While viewing an e-mail or an article, press "h" to display the full header. Hope this helps. J. Tse From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 02:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29842; Mon, 14 Oct 96 02:40:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA22134 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 02:36:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA22129 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 02:36:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCjNI-00038TC; Mon, 14 Oct 96 02:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bconn@cpcug.org (Barbara Conn) Subject: Re: "Lcc:" and "To:" Date: 13 Oct 1996 22:41:24 GMT Message-Id: <53rr6k$h89@news4.digex.net> References: Harry Slaughter (harrys@ng.netgate.net) wrote: : I've put together a couple distribution lists, and, following the Pine help : instructions, inserted the distribution list "nick" in the "Lcc" header. : : According to the help menu, the "name" of the distribution list should : appear in the "To:" area (e.g.: "Name.of.list": ;). But what I get : appearing is the name of the list *plus* the name of the first person on : the list (e.g.: "Name.of.list"Joe.Smith: ;). Hello! I've seen that problem as well. I discovered I could avoid it by being very careful to enter ^r first and then inserting the nickname on the Lcc: line next--the result is that only the listname appears in the received mail. The problem seemed to occur when I first inserted the nickname in the To: line and then moved it to the Lcc: line. So when I realize I've done that, I cancel the message and then carefully insert the nickname in the Lcc: line, avoiding the To: line altogether. Hope this helps! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 03:26:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30271; Mon, 14 Oct 96 03:26:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA15235 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 03:21:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA15230 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 03:21:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCk4E-00038BC; Mon, 14 Oct 96 03:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: HELP :"Out of free storage." Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:17:51 -0700 Message-Id: References: <1996Oct4.183732.32128@ludens> <53avqf$eqg@boursy.news.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <53avqf$eqg@boursy.news.erols.com> On 7 Oct 1996, MATHER wrote: > jeno@ludens.elte.hu (Ve'rte'nyi Ga'bor) wrote: > > Hello! > > > > What shall I do? I get such a message when I want to > > read my messages in my INBOX folder: > > Bug in Pine detected. "Out of free storage". What version of Pine are you using? There have been bugs in some older versions that caused failures like this.... > > And it drop me out. > > I got some place on my userdisc. > > > If you are the system administrator, increase the size of the partition > that mail resides on. If not, delete some of your files in your > directory, and then delete some mail. As a system administrator myself, > I can't stand mail pack rats! Print it out and keep it if it is > important! The "Out of free storage" message does not have anything to do with disk usage. It is triggered when malloc() is unable to allocate more memory... --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 04:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30864; Mon, 14 Oct 96 04:53:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA23680 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 04:49:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from morango.esb.ucp.pt (morango.esb.ucp.pt [193.136.72.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id EAA23675 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 04:49:45 -0700 Received: from localhost (carlosp@localhost) by morango.esb.ucp.pt (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA02400 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:48:41 +0100 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:48:41 +0100 (BST) From: Carlos Monagas To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII please send me information of users of your system in Spain and the U.S.A. send the mail to "carlosp@morango.esb.ucp.tt" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 06:32:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31559; Mon, 14 Oct 96 06:32:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA17481 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 06:28:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uniag.sk (uvt.uniag.sk [193.87.96.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA17474 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 06:28:24 -0700 Received: from unitra.sk (decon.unitra.sk) by uniag.sk with SMTP id AA19855 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 14:27:41 +0100 Received: from localhost by unitra.sk with SMTP id AA15070 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:25:23 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:25:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Beata Kacerova To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Slovakia Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My name is BEA and I am interested in exchanging E-mail messages with students of your university. I need some adresses of students who would like to write me. I am waiting for your help. THANK YOU. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 08:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01317; Mon, 14 Oct 96 08:25:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA19277 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 08:22:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA19272 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 08:22:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCoiD-00038BC; Mon, 14 Oct 96 08:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Untitled Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 10:16:42 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 14 Oct 1996, Carlos Monagas wrote: > please send me information of users of your system in Spain > and the U.S.A. send the mail to "carlosp@morango.esb.ucp.tt" Your request probably cannot be fulfilled. There is no central registry of users of Pine (in any country) to begin with. Also, it is unclear what you mean by "information of users." Do you mean information about individual computer stites which have installed Pine? There are probably thousands of them. Do you mean information about individual end users of Pine? There may be possibly hundreds of thousands of them, and individual information about them may be considered confidential. Perhaps you can give us more specific information on what your needs are. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 08:55:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02378; Mon, 14 Oct 96 08:55:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA27122 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 08:47:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA27117 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 08:47:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCp9W-00038BC; Mon, 14 Oct 96 08:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Jules" Subject: New Feature Request when Pine looses connection with IMAP Server Date: 9 Oct 1996 21:44:21 GMT Message-Id: <01bbb600$d16bf8b0$221f7da3@barmy> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Wotcher! I'm rather fond of Pine and I have a request (or if this already exists, please tell me how to turn it on): Should the connection between me and the server misfire, I'd like Pine to be smart enough to know this and try to re-establish a connection after the usual 2.5 mins. Right now I seem to have to quit and then log back in again. Normally this isn't a problem if I catch it but if I go away from my desk and then return, I don't always know that the connection has been broken. Not being able to nuzzle up against the email teat leaves me somewhat sad. I'm using Pine 3.95 Beta July 15th. Cheers, Jules -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMlwqC/jCcm9zXSbVAQGUZwQA1NM9DxVG7a0n6L18hwJ33CS9UvNFXaMD ditHD1P56e24mN52qqmZGEKb0lFl4wXBaEPgBDTPYIaE+kpAzOF2GEqPMvbM6fq0 WSZ3ctcHAtnaCbmmbQuEA15l0YJeGI+6my03EJBXjnWl6ks90DgaWchWHBjTdUMo P4JOGkuCSh8= =04ac -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 09:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02549; Mon, 14 Oct 96 09:00:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA20158 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 08:57:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA20153 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 08:57:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCpJD-00038UC; Mon, 14 Oct 96 08:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Viktor Groth Subject: PC-Pine / IMAP Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:00:50 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I try to setup PC-Pine (3.95) and I have a very stupid question: How can I change the password for the imap-server? The pine.pwd file should be encrypted and the Newpassword should work only in UNIX. My second problem might be the result from no/wrong password. The INBOX-Folder can't be opened and I get the following error-messages: Can't connect to sys82,143: Refused (10061) Find of mailbox outside context Any help appreciated. Viktor Groth From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 09:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04508; Mon, 14 Oct 96 09:53:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA22018 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 09:49:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs-mail.bu.edu (ACS-MAIL.BU.EDU [128.197.153.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id JAA22013 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 09:49:27 -0700 From: gjones@bu.edu Received: from 128.197.8.47 (PPP-81-27.BU.EDU [128.197.8.47]) by acs-mail.bu.edu (8.7.6/BU_Server-1.3) with SMTP id MAA455541; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:48:54 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:48:54 -0400 Message-Id: <199610141648.MAA455541@acs-mail.bu.edu> To: jandrea@stfx.ca Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: no wrap On 1996-10-09 jandrea@stfx.ca said |Heres an option I would like to see added to pine -w |which will make the editing behave like pico, no wrap at all. There is an option in Pine to change the length of the lines before word-wrapping. Can you not simply change this to a large number, and then change it back afterwards? Yours, Gregor 44, Tremlett Street, Dorchester MA 02124, USA Tel: 617-282-4484 Net-Tamer V 1.06 - Registered From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 10:01:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04771; Mon, 14 Oct 96 10:01:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA22296 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 09:59:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from itsa.ucsf.edu (itsa.ucsf.EDU [128.218.1.14]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA22291 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 09:59:02 -0700 Received: from localhost (djlang@localhost) by itsa.ucsf.edu (8.6.8/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA60450 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 09:59:50 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 09:59:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "Daniel J. Langholtz" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: eudora Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Was advised that I should download Eudora...not sure how to go about this, any suggestion, pls. Thank you Dan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 11:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07280; Mon, 14 Oct 96 11:22:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA01659 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 11:17:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA01654 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 11:17:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCrUo-00038UC; Mon, 14 Oct 96 11:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Johnston Subject: Pine and X.500 directory. Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 14:58:19 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Our project is looking at using an X.500 server to simplify sending email (easy to find a user over several different lans etc.) I was wondering how a pine user would take advantage of the availabilty of the X.500 server? Would the global addressbook be re-loaded from the server, or can searching an addressbook (^T) in compose mode quickly access such a service? Many thanks - any & all info appreciated. -johnj From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08737; Mon, 14 Oct 96 12:06:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA25735 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:02:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA25730 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:02:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCsBb-00038BC; Mon, 14 Oct 96 11:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Dr.AJAY N.KHOSLA" Subject: How to send mail using pine command line Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 11:55:32 +0530 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can I send mail using pine command line. Thanks. With regards, Dr.A. N. Khosla ========================================================================== ANKH Phone: +91-22-3742235. Chemical & Computer Consultant & +91-22-3750184. Information Services, Fax: +91-22-3742237. 27, 3rd Floor, Voice Mail: +91-22-3742237. 70, Yusuf Meherali Road, Email: (INTERNET) ANKH@giasbm01.vsnl.net.in BOMBAY-400003. INDIA. (X.400) C=IN,A=VSNL,S=ANKH,G=KHOSLA,P=GEMS ==========================================================================  From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:06:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08758; Mon, 14 Oct 96 12:06:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA02804 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:02:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA02799 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:02:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCsBr-00038UC; Mon, 14 Oct 96 11:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chude@itsa.ucsf.edu Subject: Automatic forwading of incoming mail in pine Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:58:44 -0800 Message-Id: <325D3954.70A5@itsa.ucsf.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is anyone aware of commands to configure pine to automatically forward incomming emails to a different email address? Thanks. Ravi rpankha@itsa.ucsf.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09019; Mon, 14 Oct 96 12:16:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA03084 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:12:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc1.nerc.com (nerc1.nerc.com [205.247.120.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id MAA03079 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:12:16 -0700 Received: from nerc3.nerc.com (luomat@nerc3.nerc.com [205.247.120.7]) by nerc1.nerc.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA03655; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 15:11:24 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 15:11:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Timothy Luoma Reply-To: Tim Luoma To: "Dr.AJAY N.KHOSLA" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to send mail using pine command line In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 14 Oct 1996, Dr.AJAY N.KHOSLA wrote: > Can I send mail using pine command line. I am not 100% sure what you mean by this. pine is a 'command line' program, but it is run through different screens and whatnot. I'm guessing you mean can you automatically send a message using pine in a manner such as this: cat file | pine -s "The Subject" someone@somewhere.com or pine -s "The Subject" -b File_with_the_message.txt someone@somewhere.com The answer to that is no. If you want to send files via MIME from the commandline, checkout 'mpack' (a search in Lycos should point you to it, http://www.lycos.com) TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09844; Mon, 14 Oct 96 12:36:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA26633 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:32:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA26628 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:32:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCsfy-00038BC; Mon, 14 Oct 96 12:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ted Chang Subject: how to add news groups? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 12:25:13 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If I want to add a new newsgroup to my list of news folders in pine, what do I do? I don't see any kind of function that allows me to see an expanded list with newsgroups that I am not subscribed to. Thanks, Ted chang@gusun.georgetown.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10219; Mon, 14 Oct 96 12:46:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA03922 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:42:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id MAA03912 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:42:37 -0700 From: msw@mailya.yakima.com Received: from uucp4.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp4.UU.NET [192.48.96.35]) id QQblkw08107; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 15:42:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailya.UUCP by uucp4.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 15:42:29 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by mailya.yakima.com id AA845321181 Mon, 14 Oct 96 12:26:21 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 96 12:26:21 Message-Id: <9609148453.AA845321181@mailya.yakima.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Automatic forwading of incoming mail in pine If you are on a UNIX system, simply create a .forward file in your directory that contains the e-mail address of the person to whom your message should be forwarded. This way, UNIX will forward your regardless of whether or not Pine is running. I am not sure if Pine can do the forwarding for you. - Michael ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Automatic forwading of incoming mail in pine Author: chude@itsa.ucsf.edu at INTERNET Date: 10/14/96 12:22 PM Is anyone aware of commands to configure pine to automatically forward incomming emails to a different email address? Thanks. Ravi rpankha@itsa.ucsf.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 13:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12041; Mon, 14 Oct 96 13:43:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA05543 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 13:38:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA05538 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 13:37:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCte4-00038BC; Mon, 14 Oct 96 13:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 13:47:26 -0400 Subject: adding newsgroups in pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Since pine approaches the newsgroups addition question opposite to rn, in that it only adds newsgroups users tell it to add, some users might think pine is more difficult to use than rn. Not true. Provided you use a little strategy. The effective strategy I found is to think about the topic I'm interested in reading about. Next pick one word to describe that topic. Third, go into newsgroups folder and hit the a to subscribe to a newsgroup. Fourth, enter only that single word. This is done deliberately. Pine will rightly complain since no newsgroup consists of only one word. That's great that pine complains, because sometimes it pays to make mistakes and this is one time you want to do it. Fifth, hit ^x and tell pine to search for all related newsgroups. If any are found, just move up and down the list and make your pick. jude From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 15:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16266; Mon, 14 Oct 96 15:44:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA08846 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 15:40:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA08838 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 15:40:21 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 15 Oct 96 06:38:13 +0800 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 06:39:06 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko To: "Daniel J. Langholtz" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: eudora In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 14 Oct 1996, Daniel J. Langholtz wrote: > Was advised that I should download Eudora...not sure how to go about this, > any suggestion, pls. Ahhhh.....this is the pine newsgroup. We don't talk about things like Eudora. How are you going to download Eudora anyway? Isn't she the mother of Samantha one that old TV show "Bewitched"? ;-) :-) Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17561; Mon, 14 Oct 96 16:16:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA03030 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:13:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA03024 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:13:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCw7o-00038BC; Mon, 14 Oct 96 16:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine and X.500 directory. Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:10:54 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 4 Oct 1996, John Johnston wrote: > Would the global addressbook be re-loaded from the server, or can > searching an addressbook (^T) in compose mode quickly access such > a service? Currently you would need to construct a global addressbook from the X.500 directory. A conversion script run from cron should work adequately. Don't forget to run "pine -create_lu ..." as part of the conversion procedure. On 9 Oct 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 9 Oct 1996 Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com wrote: > > > I'm not sure what the plans are....but I believe pine4.0 will > > eventually support IMSP. If I'm not mistaken...and I could be...IMSP > > could be linked with an X.500 directory to provide address information. > > Sorry....I meant to say ACAP not IMSP. Yes, we are currently planning to support ACAP in Pine 4.x. We are also considering support for LDAP or some other directory service... --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20025; Mon, 14 Oct 96 18:06:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA12826 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:02:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tower.uark.edu (tower.uark.edu [130.184.140.103]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id SAA12821 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:02:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by tower.uark.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA10500 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:54:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:54:16 -0500 (CDT) From: System Administrator Reply-To: System Administrator To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Compiling 3.95 for in Linux Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="8323328-1869739924-845338123=:10262" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --8323328-1869739924-845338123=:10262 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: I just grabbed the new version of pine and was attempting to upgrade my system, but I keep getting errors like this... [ROOT@tower][/usr/local/src/pine3.95][133]:## build clean cannot open clean.s. [ROOT@tower][/usr/local/src/pine3.95][134]:## build lnx cannot open lnx.s. [ROOT@tower][/usr/local/src/pine3.95][135]:## Where is it looking for clean.s and lnx.s and what are these files? I tried... [ROOT@tower][/usr/local/src/pine3.95][135]:## touch lnx.s [ROOT@tower][/usr/local/src/pine3.95][136]:## build lnx ^C [ROOT@tower][/usr/local/src/pine3.95][137]:## and build ran for about 20 minutes before I killed the process. Darin Many --8323328-1869739924-845338123=:10262-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20828; Mon, 14 Oct 96 19:06:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA13852 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:03:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA13847 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:03:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vCyjd-00038BC; Mon, 14 Oct 96 18:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "'Rob' R. Fulwell" Subject: deleting read articles from other newsgroups Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 15:59:59 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6 owFdTz1rVEEU3Sds4YMBU1kJB5JCMbsL6SJqsuAHi6DLimBhinnz7mYeOzvznA8f KyQEttGAIHaBpFC0ULTSQkhQEPwDItjYhTRJoZWtmSxq4S0u93DOPffch7Vbx+rJ XPb519m119++fNxIkmTnQ/K79/70jf6DzTtv/alXa3d/jk9sHV+ffnLm8btH45O7 L3/M7LdnLmgWXnx/tv309qep5/MHjfti5Vr96+CSWtpb3H6TOF93Pi90LRZLb5oh QVPlLPGcrAO3BDfk1oNnJngISWJQ6OVI+EIogvwr1DlyUuQjydI/rEMlCyFRUbQR 1jhXGucpn6i5OjoyguT3CBmRhjtq2QheEoIji0JHK20itli2JpRNoO3Q5xbcoQPB NTwpNYtu5/pl5CZejPI4RI/CRXXHTSaWehto4R8GR6m41jEKacm1oCFpv8BSljYa LO2ZDFeCqqI1zg+LGGUxNCvuZHzOG92kPFxkqfS+PNdqVZSRbf7Pt1Yne+gbi+7V LsqQqUJgQCOWHgI= =7gQU -----END PGP MESSAGE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21861; Mon, 14 Oct 96 20:36:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA08279 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:33:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA08274 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:33:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vD0AR-00038BC; Mon, 14 Oct 96 20:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jaearick@colby.edu (Jeff A. Earickson) Subject: WARNING: HPUX patch PHSS_8584 breaks pine 3.95 Date: 10 Oct 1996 19:42:47 GMT Message-Id: <53jjjn$qld@host-04.colby.edu> Y'all, I installed PHSS_8584 (dld.sl cumulative patch, 10.10 s700_800) on my systems this morning, and I quickly found out that it breaks pine 3.95 on series 700 boxes *only*. It does not seem to give pine any problems on s800 boxes. The symptoms are thus: you go into pine, compose a message, and hit ^X to send it. You then get a complaint about stack overflow and pine then core dumps. Analysis of the core dump shows that it croaks at line 6932 of send.c. Pine is doing a STREAMS operation at that point. I would guess that PHSS_8584 may adversely affect other STREAMS code. I have backed this patch out of all my systems, including the 800 series. I've reported the problem to HP... -- ** Jeff A. Earickson, Ph.D PHONE: 207-872-3659 ** Senior UNIX Sysadmin, Information Technology EMAIL: jaearick@colby.edu ** Colby College, 4214 Mayflower Hill, FAX: 207-872-3555 ** Waterville ME, 04901-8842 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unix and Ancient Hebrew - two written languages that don't use vowels. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 21:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22196; Mon, 14 Oct 96 21:06:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA15541 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 21:03:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA15536 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 21:03:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vD0br-00038BC; Mon, 14 Oct 96 20:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen Subject: Re: X-Authentication-Warning ... Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:23:58 +0200 Message-Id: <3262691E.41C6@dit.ou.dk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Abhay Roy wrote: >=20 > Any clues on this warning message ? I tried running the binary with my = uid, > and setuid (with root ownership). Still the same .. This is from sendmail. You are not a trusted user according to=20 /etc/sendmail.cf, so the friendly sendmail lets the recipients know that the sender was changed with an option. You must talk to the mail administrators to fix this. -- Thorbj=F8rn Ravn Andersen "...and...Tubular Bells!" http://www.dit.ou.dk/~ravn From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 22:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23193; Mon, 14 Oct 96 22:56:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA10095 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 22:54:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA10090 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 22:54:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vD2Lt-00038BC; Mon, 14 Oct 96 22:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Automatic forwading of incoming mail in pine Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:01:49 -0400 Message-Id: References: <325D3954.70A5@itsa.ucsf.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <325D3954.70A5@itsa.ucsf.edu> On Thu, 10 Oct 1996 chude@itsa.ucsf.edu wrote: > Is anyone aware of commands to configure pine to automatically forward > incomming emails to a different email address? Thanks. Pine itself will not automatically forward mail for you. You must use some task which will process the mail before Pine does anything with it. On Un*x systems, this is most commonly done by means of a .forward file in your home directory. (I cannot speak about other operating systems.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 23:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23686; Mon, 14 Oct 96 23:40:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA17623 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 23:39:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA17618 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 23:39:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vD33p-00038BC; Mon, 14 Oct 96 23:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "rabia" Subject: how i can send Mail using different Name ? Date: 11 Oct 1996 21:39:48 GMT Message-Id: <01bbb7bd$6a63fbe0$b0035ac2@rabia> Hi all , i need help using pine 3.95 My work is Support mail and i want to be able to send email using other names how i can change the " From field " name ? thanks a lot rabia@netvision.net.il From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 23:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23857; Mon, 14 Oct 96 23:51:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA10870 for pine-info-out; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 23:49:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA10865 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 23:49:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vD3CA-00038BC; Mon, 14 Oct 96 23:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jyetse@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (J.Y.E. Tse) Subject: Re: how to add news groups? Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 18:53:46 GMT References: In article , Ted Chang wrote: >If I want to add a new newsgroup to my list of news folders in pine, what >do I do? I don't see any kind of function that allows me to see an >expanded list with newsgroups that I am not subscribed to. When you're in the "expanded list" of News Groups (i.e. when you can see the names of all the News Groups that you've subscribed to), press "a", which stands for "subscribe to a News Group". Then you can enter the keyword that you wanted to search for from the names of all News Groups carried by your News server. For example, entering "comp" will list all the News Groups that have the string "comp" in their names. Then you can subscribe to them. Hope this helps. J. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23968; Tue, 15 Oct 96 00:06:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA17952 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:04:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA17947 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:04:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vD3PE-00038BC; Mon, 14 Oct 96 23:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Schnell Subject: SCO Openserver 5 build Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:28:21 -0600 Message-Id: <325E83B5.D1B@oanet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm trying to track down a precompiled binary for SCO Can anyone help me? Michael Schnell mschnell@oanet.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24079; Tue, 15 Oct 96 00:11:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA11123 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:09:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA11115 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:09:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vD3Xx-00038BC; Tue, 15 Oct 96 00:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: cut and paste Date: 11 Oct 1996 14:16:26 GMT Message-Id: <53lkrq$6m5@coconut.epix.net> References: <53lkcu$6m5@coconut.epix.net> DearOldDad (dad@epix.net) wrote: : G. Nylund (aradia@online.dct.com) wrote: : : I have a couple messages in my saved folder. I want to cut sections out of : : each and compose a new message including those cuts. I can't seem to find : : a way to do that. Any suggestions? : Save them as files with the (E)xport command, then while composing (with : pico) ^R (control + r) to "read in" those files, then ^K to cut out what : you do NOT want. Maybe someone else has a simpler way, but that works for : me. Hope this helps. BYE Followup to my prior post ... "paste" is called (U)ncut in pico, the command is ^U (control + u), so if you want to move stuff around do a ^K then move the cursor where you want it and ^U. Hope that's clear? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24300; Tue, 15 Oct 96 00:33:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA18357 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:31:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA18351 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:31:30 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:27/EUnetD-2.6.0.d) via EUnet id JAA18193; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 09:31:26 +0200 Message-Id: <199610150729.JAA09293@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id JAA09293; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 09:29:12 +0200 From: Rudolf Kompf Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 08:42:22 +0200 (MET DST) To: chude@itsa.ucsf.edu Cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: Automatic forwading of incoming mail in pine In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 14 Oct 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: -> On Thu, 10 Oct 1996 chude@itsa.ucsf.edu wrote: -> -> > Is anyone aware of commands to configure pine to automatically forward -> > incomming emails to a different email address? Thanks. -> -> Pine itself will not automatically forward mail for you. You must -> use some task which will process the mail before Pine does anything -> with it. On Un*x systems, this is most commonly done by means of a -> .forward file in your home directory. (I cannot speak about other -> operating systems.) -> -> Paul -> ---------------------------------------------------------- -> Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA -> Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key -> Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart -> Use procmail (on Un*x) to facilitate the task of filtering, forwarding ... received mail. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:54:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24469; Tue, 15 Oct 96 00:54:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA18582 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:49:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA18571 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:49:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vD48A-00038BC; Tue, 15 Oct 96 00:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: compressing in pine Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 12:08:39 -0400 Message-Id: References: <01bbb722$c02f0a60$0b5d4781@brownbrd> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <01bbb722$c02f0a60$0b5d4781@brownbrd> On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Stephen and Amy Brown wrote: > I am a student at WVNCC in New Martinsville, WV. We are currnetly using > pine for our Interent Research class and I have what I hope is a simple > question. I know that I can expunge in Pine but is there a way to compress > our mail also. I thought perhaps expunge would do it but when I exit pine > I still have to go in and compress my mail seperatley. Is there any way to > compress in pine? If so please tell me how. Thank you for taking the time > to read and answer this post. By "compress the mail" I am supposing that you mean mail and/or news stored in folders after it has already been read. Correct me if I am wrong. (It is possible to filter incoming mail out of the INBOX and into folders, such as with procmail, but it might be awkward to compress these folders when the incoming mail filter process is potentially always running in the background, so that a folder could wind up a mixture of compressed and uncompressed.) I am not aware of any way to make Pine compress its mail folders directly. However, I once saw a script -- which I did not save -- which one would invoke in place of Pine. It would first uncompress the folders and then run Pine for you. After you exited Pine, it would recompress the folders. Such a script would have to allow for the possibility of folders deleted and created during the Pine session. That script might have been posted on comp.mail.pine, in which case somebody might be able to provide it. As I recall, though, it was a Un*x shell script, and you did not say what operating system you are using Pine under. Also, if you're running short of disk space, which is why you want to compress the folders, be aware that with a script like this,. for the duration of the time that Pine is running, the folders would exist in all their expanded glory. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 01:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24641; Tue, 15 Oct 96 01:52:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA19402 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 01:49:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.martek.net (server.martek.net [198.79.92.194]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id BAA19397 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 01:49:07 -0700 Received: from localhost (maverick@localhost) by server.martek.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id DAA00502 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 03:49:01 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 03:49:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Maverick To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I think this message is more directed to you folks... I don't even know how this guy got me address?!?!? Thanks, Matt Coleman ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 03:44:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Jim Jaworski To: Maverick Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 On 12 Oct 1996, Maverick wrote: > Hey guys, > I'm having a little bit of a problem with PINE version >3.95... My > service provider, who is running Linux, installed v3.95 >tonight. Whenever > I load Pine, get a message across the bottom of the screen (on the > line right above the keying options) that says: > >"error creating/var/spool/mail/maverick.locl.845103665.13224.server.martek.net" > Please tell me what this is and how I can fix it... > > Other than >this, I love version 3.95! I just found out how to configure Pine 3.92 for OS/2. After I type in my userid and password to login to the smtp server via Pine I get that same error too. Let me know what to change so that it doesn't show that error. Winnipeg MB Canada soo696@freenet.mb.ca TEAM OS/2 http://www.winnipeg.freenet.mb.ca/~soo696 -- in English and Polish. -- Angielski i Polski. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 02:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25619; Tue, 15 Oct 96 02:54:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA12968 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 02:49:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA12963 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 02:49:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vD60x-00038BC; Tue, 15 Oct 96 02:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: Re: Reading MIME Attachments Outside of Pine? In-Reply-To: <53h6n2$ijq@henson.cc.wwu.edu> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <53h6n2$ijq@henson.cc.wwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 22:58:17 GMT On 9 Oct 1996, J. Scott Williams wrote: > Some of our users receive MIME encoded email sent to non-mime > enabled email readers. How can I process the MIME encoded > portion of the email outside of Pine? mpack/munpack , from all good software mirrors. > Or, how can I forward the > email to a Pine email reader so that the MIME portion will > be seen as a legitimate MIME attachment? In general you can't, because a non-mime-aware mail client will mangle the headers. However, if the mail server itself doesn't mangle the headers (internet mailers normally don't, but if you are behind an X400 gateway or something then all bets are off), then you just want to leave your non-compliant mail client out of the game and connect up to the mail server with a MIME compliant one instead. Remember, PINE likes IMAP but it can also play POP. Those are the Internet standard dialogs between a mail client (user agent) and a mail server. When you play POP, you may need to move the offending item back into your incoming mail folder if it has already been processed and moved into some other folder. POP normally only accesses the incoming mail folder, whereas IMAP can access any mail folder. Try to keep a clear distinction between the mail server (MTA in the jargon) and the mail client app. Many PINE users get confused about this because they execute PINE on the same host where the server runs, and they imagine the whole thing (including .forward, and vacation, and all that stuff) somehow happens inside PINE itself. Not so. QUite a few of my users still run VMS MAIL under VMS. When they get a MIME mail they tend to rush to me for assistance, and are quite surprised when I execute PINE on another system and connect it to their VMS system's mail server to retrieve their mail item. It's chiefly a matter of developing the right mental model of what's going on. I do my best to explain it to them, but mostly they are so convinced that the mailing system is all one humungous whole that then can't see the wood for the trees. (PINE, geddit? ;-) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 03:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26016; Tue, 15 Oct 96 03:47:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA20524 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 03:44:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA20519 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 03:44:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vD6to-00038BC; Tue, 15 Oct 96 03:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nava@wishful.weizmann.ac.il (Shaya Nava) Subject: pine default pointer location in main menu Message-Id: <1996Oct15.092228.2837@wisipc.weizmann.ac.il> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 09:22:28 GMT I have copiled pine 3.95 on ultrix machine, it works fine. But i have this problem : In the main menu the default location of the pointer is on the line : L FOLDER LIST ... I would like it to be on : I FOLDER LIST ... any suggestions will be welcome. Nava. (nava@wishful.weizmann.ac.il) -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 04:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25480; Tue, 15 Oct 96 04:03:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA20679 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 03:59:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA20674 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 03:59:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vD78v-00038WC; Tue, 15 Oct 96 03:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roger Petersen Subject: Bug in Pine Detected Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 04:13:14 -0500 Message-Id: <325A1B29.1237@ahinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently installed Pine on a SCO-Unix system. It runs fine from the console port and a telnet connection. It does run from dumb terminals connected to a Stallion Serial I/O box. I get the message Bug in Pine detected: "Select error: Invalid argument" I am at a loss of what to fix or change. Any ideas? -- ________________________________________ From: Roger Petersen of Advanced Horizons, Inc. E-mail: roger@ahinc.com / Web page: www.ahinc.com Phone: 630-941-9332 / Fax: 630-941-9338 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 04:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26151; Tue, 15 Oct 96 04:07:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA13682 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 03:59:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA13677 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 03:59:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vD78v-00038VC; Tue, 15 Oct 96 03:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kjell Andresen Subject: Re: Help:Inbox is Read ONLY Date: 12 Oct 1996 22:31:42 GMT Message-Id: <53p68e$5qi@ratatosk.uio.no> References: In-Reply-To: ahairsto@polaris.umuc.edu's message of 12 Oct 1996 14:32:18 -0700 In my Inbox I can "view" new messages, but unable to delete because it says --Read Only." Is there a command to "take away the read only?" Thanks ahairsto@polaris.umuc.edu Kill all other pine sessions and start a new one! Kjell From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 06:04:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26946; Tue, 15 Oct 96 06:04:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA15240 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 05:59:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA15235 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 05:59:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vD8zh-00038BC; Tue, 15 Oct 96 05:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bashley@ktb.net (Bev) Subject: Re: no wrap Date: 15 Oct 1996 05:07:30 GMT Message-Id: <53v66i$59b@dns.ktb.net> References: <199610141648.MAA455541@acs-mail.bu.edu> | On 1996-10-09 jandrea@stfx.ca said | |Heres an option I would like to see added to pine -w | |which will make the editing behave like pico, no wrap at all. WAG: Isn't there someting in the .pinerc about which editor to use? Maybe specifying pico -w would work... Bev bashley@ktb.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Save the whales for dessert From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 06:50:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27346; Tue, 15 Oct 96 06:50:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA15854 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 06:47:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from juliet.stfx.ca (juliet.stfx.ca [141.109.2.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA15849 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 06:47:08 -0700 Received: from localhost by juliet.stfx.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.10) id AA117899; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:47:03 -0300 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:47:03 -0300 (ADT) From: John Andrea To: gjones@bu.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: no wrap In-Reply-To: <199610141648.MAA455541@acs-mail.bu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > There is an option in Pine to change the length of the lines before > word-wrapping. Can you not simply change this to a large number, and then > change it back afterwards? Nope, the max is 80 __________________________________________________________________ John Andrea St. Francis Xavier Univ. University Computer Services Antigonish, NS, CANADA B2G 2W5 http://www.stfx.ca/~jandrea/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 07:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27561; Tue, 15 Oct 96 07:11:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA23191 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 07:09:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lucky.coastalnet.com (abaco.coastalnet.com [204.183.40.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA23186 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 07:09:10 -0700 Received: from gw2k (pm-wsh1-56.coastalnet.com [205.245.121.56]) by lucky.coastalnet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA28992 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:08:10 -0400 Message-Id: <32639A40.13F4@coastalnet.com> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:05:52 -0400 From: "Bobby N. Sparks" Reply-To: bnsparks@coastalnet.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: binhex conversion Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------2E9130A23F16" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2E9130A23F16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I received this file which needs to be converted with binhex 4.0. I'm new at this and have no idea what to do. Can you please help me? I am attaching the file. If you can convert it for me I would greatly appreciate it. 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X)'Pd*h-JBf&XE'9N)'0KFQG[2`d0@@pe)'YZEhFJG'KKG#"XDA4dE'8JD@jNCA0 dFR9MG'PLE'8JBQaKBfXJBQpi)(4SBA3JDA-JGA0PC#"[EL"`E'&ZCA-X)(GSH3e MB@iRG#"dD'9j)'eKDf8JG'KP)(GSEfaP)("XB@jP)'peG#"[CL"dD'8JFf&YC5" cG@*cG'&ZBf8r$3eAD(NJDA-JDA3JG'KKG#"hD'9Z)(P[G5GbC5"NFQPfD@jR)'& ZC#"XEfpVD@jR)'C[FL"KEL"KC'4bCA0c,#"jEh8JG(9bEL"NEhGZ$A4SC5"fEfa eE@8JEfiJG'KP)(*KC'P[2`d09fKj)'Pc)'%JCQaj)'0KE'aPC#"K)'CXH5"KEQ3 JB5"QDA0S)'j[G#"K)(0hD@dr$3eAD'9Z)'Pd)(*KD@jc,#"NEb"cD'9PF#"cD(* TEQXr$3e*CL"jEh8JE@9XG#"NFRNJD@0P,#"MB@iJH@pe)(0hD@dJGfPdD'peG#" RCA4dD@jR)(GPG$q9GJ!!: --------------2E9130A23F16-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 07:36:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28024; Tue, 15 Oct 96 07:36:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA23591 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 07:33:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc1.nerc.com (nerc1.nerc.com [205.247.120.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id HAA23586 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 07:33:14 -0700 Received: from nerc3.nerc.com (luomat@nerc3.nerc.com [205.247.120.7]) by nerc1.nerc.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA10108 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:33:14 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:32:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Timothy Luoma Reply-To: Tim Luoma Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: no wrap In-Reply-To: <53v66i$59b@dns.ktb.net> Message-Id: Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII the -w feature for pico has never worked for me (but we are talking very long lines) in either NeXTStep or Linux. TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 07:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28246; Tue, 15 Oct 96 07:44:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA16638 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 07:39:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA16633 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 07:39:31 -0700 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 15 Oct 96 22:37:24 +0800 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 22:37:24 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: John Andrea Cc: gjones@bu.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: no wrap In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, John Andrea wrote: > > There is an option in Pine to change the length of the lines before > > word-wrapping. Can you not simply change this to a large number, and then > > change it back afterwards? > > Nope, the max is 80 If you "really" want that behaviour you can change the definition of "#define MAX_FILLCOL 80" in the os.h file. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 07:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28469; Tue, 15 Oct 96 07:53:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA23924 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 07:50:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA23919 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 07:50:12 -0700 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 15 Oct 96 22:48:06 +0800 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 22:48:06 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: bnsparks@coastalnet.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: binhex conversion In-Reply-To: <32639A40.13F4@coastalnet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Bobby N. Sparks wrote: > I received this file which needs to be converted with binhex 4.0. I'm > new at this and have no idea what to do. Can you please help me? I am > attaching the file. If you can convert it for me I would greatly > appreciate it. Thanks, Bobby What makes you feel anything needs to be converted with binhex? I saw nothing to indicate that in what you sent. If you are wondering about Application/APPLEFILE, and you are on a PC or UnixBox...then don't worry about it as this is the "resource fork" for use on a MAC. BTW, in answer to "WHY?"....there are *no* locks on the 7-11 doors here in Taiwan. :-) :-) Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 08:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28967; Tue, 15 Oct 96 08:08:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA17210 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 08:05:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA17196 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 08:05:29 -0700 Received: from ciint by ns.NL.net (5.65b/NLnet1.3) id AA15828; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 16:40:38 +0200 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa14413; 15 Oct 96 16:09 WET Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 16:10:48 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering To: Roger Petersen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Bug in Pine Detected In-Reply-To: <325A1B29.1237@ahinc.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Roger Petersen wrote: > I recently installed Pine on a SCO-Unix system. It runs fine from > the console port and a telnet connection. > > It does run from dumb terminals connected to a Stallion Serial I/O box. > I get the message > Bug in Pine detected: "Select error: Invalid argument" > > I am at a loss of what to fix or change. Any ideas? To try to find out what is wrong, it would help if you could let us know: - Which version of Pine you are using. - If you compiled Pine yourself on the same SCO system or if you obtained a pre-compiled binary. - The release of SCO you are using (uname -X). - Exactly which Stallion boxes and host cards you are using. Presumably SI, but could also be XIO or RIO (hwconfig). - Which version of the Specialix drivers you have installed (swconfig). Maybe this information can be used to provide you with a solution. Always remember to supply as much information as you can, since the cause of a problem can come from a seemingly unrelated source. Regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | Open minds use Open Systems | | CI International. The Netherlands | (which O.S. are you using?) | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01498; Tue, 15 Oct 96 10:29:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA28045 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:25:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA28040 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:25:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDD9u-00038BC; Tue, 15 Oct 96 10:20 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "G. Nylund" Subject: cut and paste Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 13:19:39 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a couple messages in my saved folder. I want to cut sections out of each and compose a new message including those cuts. I can't seem to find a way to do that. Any suggestions? Aradia From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:42:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01762; Tue, 15 Oct 96 10:42:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA21446 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:40:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA21441 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:40:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDDNO-00038BC; Tue, 15 Oct 96 10:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: d92-msa@dront.nada.kth.se (Magnus Sandberg) Subject: Re: Incoming Folders Date: 15 Oct 1996 15:48:32 GMT Message-Id: <540bog$8nb@news.kth.se> References: <52u8o8$337@news.kth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit : You have to enable the tab feature in setup->config. : -- : David I've already done that. Pine just says 'Checking for new messages' and even if there are new ones (marked N) it won't tab to it. /M -- Be Ye Not Lost Among Precepts of Order... - The Book of Uterus 1;5 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 11:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03207; Tue, 15 Oct 96 11:23:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA29486 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 11:20:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA29475 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 11:20:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDDzr-00038TC; Tue, 15 Oct 96 11:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (CARUFEL Benoit) Subject: Re: How to read imported mail folders? Date: 14 Oct 1996 06:40:55 GMT Message-Id: <53sn9n$hah@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: <53q5f6$snh@xmission.xmission.com> Un jour, Richard Ebling (rebling@xmission.xmission.com) affirmait publiquement que: | To reduce my use of disk space on my host, I want to download these | (which seem to be ordinary text files, basically) to my Linux box | However, when I've tried to do this, I have been unable to make PINE see | them as valid folders. If you have a shell access, you could just compress/tar/gzip/zip the whole mail directory and uncompress/untar/gunzip/unzip it on your Linux box. Don't play with the files, they are not exactly text files... HTH... (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ Il n'y a rien de plus beau qu'une clef tant qu'on ne sait pas ce qu'elle ouvre. -- M. Maeterlinck From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 11:50:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04548; Tue, 15 Oct 96 11:50:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA23470 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 11:45:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA23465 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 11:45:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDEPG-00038BC; Tue, 15 Oct 96 11:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: etzhang@hertz.ee.vill.edu (Yufeng Zhang) Subject: please help: how to beep in pine ? Date: 11 Oct 1996 00:26:20 GMT Message-Id: <53k47c$g6p@ftp.ee.vill.edu> Hi, Please help me with a simple problem: how to set the beep/flash for incoming mail reminding ? I am on solaris. Is there any system files can be configured for beeping the incoming mails? I can't find configuration about this in pine configuration utils. Thanks, -- Zhang, Yufeng Email: etzhang@ece.vill.edu Voice Mail: (610) 519-6000, ext 82123 Phone: (610) 519-4990 (lab); (610) 519-7369 (office); (610) 225-0262 (home) Mail Address: ECE Department, Villanova University, Villanova, PA 19085, USA URL: http://www.ece.vill.edu/~etzhang/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 13:18:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07345; Tue, 15 Oct 96 13:18:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA02887 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 13:15:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA02882 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 13:15:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDFnw-00038TC; Tue, 15 Oct 96 13:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Tse" Subject: Re: has mail been read? Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <53che6$itl@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 02:07:56 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <53che6$itl@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 On 8 Oct 1996, Laurie Fuchs wrote: > Is there anyway to know whether or not mail I have sent has been read or > not? Thanks to anyone that has any information. I don't think it's possible. If you want to know whether your e-mail has reached the recipient's server, try the header "Reply-To:". If what you suggest is possible, isn't it an invasion of privacy? ;) J. Tse From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 14:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09717; Tue, 15 Oct 96 14:32:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA27731 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 14:25:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA27726 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 14:25:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDGrt-00038VC; Tue, 15 Oct 96 14:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dmf12@cus.cam.ac.uk (D.M. Freye) Subject: Changing Return email address Date: 15 Oct 1996 18:17:27 GMT Message-Id: <540kfn$gca@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Hi, I am using Pine on a multiuser Unix system. Any email I send with pine automatically has my email address on the Unix system as the From: address in the email. Does anyone know if it is possible to change the email address shown in the From: field to something I choose myself. Regards, From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 14:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10172; Tue, 15 Oct 96 14:51:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA28285 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 14:48:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sting.ait.ru.acad.bg (sting.ait.ru.acad.bg [194.141.29.193]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id OAA28259 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 14:47:09 -0700 Received: from localhost (nia@localhost) by sting.ait.ru.acad.bg (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA09145 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 23:46:52 +0200 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 23:46:52 +0200 (EET) From: Iavor Trapkov To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PCPine didnt send sometimes Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi pine users, I installed PCPine 3.95 (winsock version) at our network. We are using Pathworks 5.0, windows 3.11 and DEC station 5000/240 (Ultrix 4.3) as file and mail server. I changed the sendmail version of this Unix machine with 8.7.5 and it works fine. I installed pine 3.95 for ultrix from the bin distribution and imapd from the same version/distribution too. Pine for Ultrix works fine, but PCPine doesnt send mail and stay at the moment when it sending. I only can close PCPine with Ctrl-Alt-Del. I saw that there was an imap process coresponding of my session and there was sendmail process which tried to get message. Sometimes PCPine stay with message "waiting 29 seconds for sending" or something about. Where can be the problem (pcpine, imapd, sendmail), and how can I solve it? If someone have the same problems? Regards -------------------------------------------------------------------- M.Sc. Iavor Trapkov Advanced Information Technologies Dpt. System and LAN Manager The University of Rousse, BULGARIA Iavor.Trapkov@ait.ru.acad.bg BG - 7017, Rousse, 8 Studentska http://sting.ait.ru.acad.bg/~nia tel. (+359 82) 445 07 657 -------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11677; Tue, 15 Oct 96 15:39:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA06476 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:36:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA06471 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:35:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDHxM-00038BC; Tue, 15 Oct 96 15:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stephen@clark.net (Stephen Balbach) Subject: "Unexpected Changes to INBOX" - help! Date: 10 Oct 1996 22:00:55 GMT Message-Id: <53jrmn$7b6@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, Solaris 2.5 SPARC. /var/mail is NFS mounted on a dedicated mail server. Problem: About every 10 minutes or whenever I need to write to my inbox (new mail comes in or deleteing mail) there are error messages regarding the INBOX and pine aborts and asks to quit and restart. The error messages include "INBOX length 0 aborting..".."invalid mailbox format".." unknown error consult an expert".. They all relate to the inbox and it appears the inbox is being written too when it should not be. I have tried: o Diffrent versions of pine o removing all .pinerc, .pine-conf, .pine-debug? and restarting o removing sent-mail and .addressbook* o running pine directly on the mail server (no NFS) o deleteing the INBOX to 0 length o running from a bare shell (no .login .profile .csh) 0 creating a new account and forwarding mail to that account. the new account works on so the mail headers are fine. 0 watching the creation of /usr/mail/stephen.lock is created and deleted when the inbox is needed to be written too. verified ok. Im at a loss. This problem is not effecting anyone else but me. What other files does pine open/use? Any help appreciated. I have used pine for 4 years and support a network of 6000 users using pine and have never seen this problem before. I have looked at it for 3 days to no avail, it is effecting my personal account only. --- Stephen Balbach "Driving the Internet To Work" VP, ClarkNet due to the high volume of mail I receive please quote info@clark.net the full original message in your reply. -- --- Stephen Balbach "Driving the Internet To Work" VP, ClarkNet due to the high volume of mail I receive please quote info@clark.net the full original message in your reply. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11886; Tue, 15 Oct 96 15:46:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA29732 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:43:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs-mail.bu.edu (ACS-MAIL.BU.EDU [128.197.153.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id PAA29727 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:43:11 -0700 Received: from bu.edu (MED-PHYSIO11.BU.EDU [155.41.110.9]) by acs-mail.bu.edu (8.7.6/BU_Server-1.3) with SMTP id SAA83403; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:41:23 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:41:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Gregor J Jones Reply-To: Gregor J Jones To: Edward M Greshko Cc: John Andrea , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: no wrap In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Edward M Greshko wrote: | On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, John Andrea wrote: | | > > There is an option in Pine to change the length of the lines before | > > word-wrapping. Can you not simply change this to a large number, and then | > > change it back afterwards? | > | > Nope, the max is 80 | | If you "really" want that behaviour you can change the definition | of "#define MAX_FILLCOL 80" in the os.h file. Well, sorry about the suggestion. I was replying from home, where I don't have access to the pine help file. Silly me, I know. It is nice to know that I was getting close, though. But, does this mean that even if one can invoke "pico -w" as an alternative editor, pine will still restrict the line length to 80 or less characters after composing, unless the program is reconfigured (recompiled?). I would try these, if I could, but unfortunately I don't have access to do so, and PCPine won't let me use an alternate editor. Yours Gregor __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ Gregor J Jones Tel: 617-638-5336 (Lab) Department of Physiology 617-282-4484 (Home) Boston University School of Medicine Fax: 617-638-4273 Boston MA 02118 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 16:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12694; Tue, 15 Oct 96 16:08:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA00447 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 16:06:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA00442 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 16:06:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDISh-00038BC; Tue, 15 Oct 96 15:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Koen Claessen Subject: Long waiting times when sending email Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:45:09 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi there, I have a problem with sending email in pine. For some reason, some email addresses take a very long time (sometimes 1 or 2 minutes) to send a message to. I press ^X, en it says "sending email", and I have to wait for 1 minute before I can proceed. The messages are not long, that doesn't matter. Does anybody know how I can let pine do this in the background?? So that I can read/send other email? Regards, Koen. -- | Koen Claessen, kcclaess@cse.ogi.edu. | | http://www.cse.ogi.edu/~kcclaess/ | |------------------------------------------------------| | Visiting student at OGI, Portland, Oregon, USA. | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 16:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13633; Tue, 15 Oct 96 16:43:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA08244 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 16:40:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs-mail.bu.edu (ACS-MAIL.BU.EDU [128.197.153.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id QAA08239 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 16:40:48 -0700 Received: from bu.edu (MED-PHYSIO11.BU.EDU [155.41.110.9]) by acs-mail.bu.edu (8.7.6/BU_Server-1.3) with SMTP id TAA49449; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 19:39:37 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 19:39:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Gregor J Jones Reply-To: Gregor J Jones To: Shaya Nava Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine default pointer location in main menu In-Reply-To: <1996Oct15.092228.2837@wisipc.weizmann.ac.il> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Shaya Nava wrote: | But i have this problem : | | In the main menu the default location of the pointer is on the line : | L FOLDER LIST ... | | I would like it to be on : | I FOLDER LIST ... I presume you mean "I INDEX LIST"... You can do this by making pine have a single initial key stroke, which should be a single up arrow. The code for this keystroke is "UP" (lower case "up" also seems to work. Either go to "setup" "configure" and look for "initial-keystroke-list". Make the entry there just read "UP" (or "up"; both without the quotation marks). Alternatively, start pine with the following command: pine -I up Both work with PCPine, I haven't tried with other versions. PS: The information available in the help for "initial-keystroke-list" was how I discovered the above. Yours Gregor __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ Gregor J Jones Tel: 617-638-5336 (Lab) Department of Physiology 617-282-4484 (Home) Boston University School of Medicine Fax: 617-638-4273 Boston MA 02118 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14629; Tue, 15 Oct 96 17:23:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA09385 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 17:21:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA09380 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 17:21:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDJce-00038BC; Tue, 15 Oct 96 17:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Pine keeps asking question Date: 15 Oct 1996 21:49:19 GMT Message-Id: <5410sv$906@due.unit.no> References: <53u6vs$98q@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> [Posted and mailed to Andrew Vardy] In article , Chelsea wrote: >On 14 Oct 1996, Andrew Vardy wrote: > >> Every time I press Q to quit Pine, Pine asks me if I want to move all read >> messages to another folder. If I don't press N then, it does that, and >> sets all the messages in my inbox as deleted. >the option you want is the "auto-move-read-msgs" one in Config. Most definitely not, that is the same as always answering Yes. You want read-message-folder. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 17:44:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15113; Tue, 15 Oct 96 17:44:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA02761 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 17:41:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA02756 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 17:41:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDJwC-00038BC; Tue, 15 Oct 96 17:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jyetse@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca () Subject: Re: Help:Inbox is Read ONLY Message-Id: Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 19:40:12 GMT References: In article , ahairsto wrote: > >In my Inbox I can "view" new messages, but unable to delete because it >says --Read Only." Is there a command to "take away the read only?" It seems that you're running 2 copies of Pine simultaneously. That usually results in the error message you mentioned. Try to quit all Pine instances and start 1 copy of Pine. Hope this helps. J. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15493; Tue, 15 Oct 96 18:11:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA03328 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:09:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id SAA03323 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:09:31 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA04630; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:09:29 -0700 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:09:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Koen Claessen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Long waiting times when sending email In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please go to the MAIN MENU and press "r" to read the Release Notes. Look for the SENDING STRATEGY section. -teg On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Koen Claessen wrote: > Hi there, > > I have a problem with sending email in pine. For some reason, some email > addresses take a very long time (sometimes 1 or 2 minutes) to send a > message to. I press ^X, en it says "sending email", and I have to wait for > 1 minute before I can proceed. The messages are not long, that doesn't > matter. > > Does anybody know how I can let pine do this in the background?? So that I > can read/send other email? > > Regards, > Koen. > > -- > | Koen Claessen, kcclaess@cse.ogi.edu. | > | http://www.cse.ogi.edu/~kcclaess/ | > |------------------------------------------------------| > | Visiting student at OGI, Portland, Oregon, USA. | > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15566; Tue, 15 Oct 96 18:16:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA10427 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:14:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from huckle.cse.ogi.edu (huckle.cse.ogi.edu [129.95.44.29]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA10422; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:14:47 -0700 Received: from localhost by huckle.cse.ogi.edu with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #7) id m0vDKZL-000AoJC; Tue, 15 Oct 96 18:14 PDT Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:14:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Koen Claessen To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Long waiting times when sending email In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Terry, THANKS!!!! No long waiting times anymore!! Koen. -- | Koen Claessen, kcclaess@cse.ogi.edu. | | http://www.cse.ogi.edu/~kcclaess/ | |------------------------------------------------------| | Visiting student at OGI, Portland, Oregon, USA. | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:23:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15670; Tue, 15 Oct 96 18:23:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA10577 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:21:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA10572 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:21:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDKX9-00038TC; Tue, 15 Oct 96 18:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Samir Alsayed Ibrahim Omar Subject: mail_groups Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:26:40 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, Does any one know (use) any other mail-group ? Why I always find - every day- the number of messages is different (getting less - not even increasing ) ? Could any one advice me .. With My Best Regads Samir From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 22:56:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19051; Tue, 15 Oct 96 22:56:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA07573 for pine-info-out; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 22:54:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lair.utw.com (slc45.utw.com [198.60.58.45]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id WAA07568; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 22:54:07 -0700 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by lair.utw.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA00998; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 23:54:04 -0600 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 23:54:04 -0600 (MDT) From: root To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: pine@cac.washington.edu Subject: freebsd binaries - please reply to hs@cavebst.cc.dixie.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a place I can get a pine binary for freebsd/386 preferably v3.95? Holt Sorenson hs@cavebst.cc.dixie.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 01:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20044; Wed, 16 Oct 96 01:22:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA16404 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 01:19:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lin2.tpu.ee (lin2.tpu.ee [193.40.239.27]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA16393 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 01:19:43 -0700 Received: from localhost (nata@localhost) by lin2.tpu.ee (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA01288; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:17:54 +0300 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:17:53 +0300 (EET DST) From: Natalja Litovtsenko To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Natalja Litovtsenko Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hallo! My name's Natasha. I'm 19. I study in the University(TPU). I'd like to write with somebody. Please give me somebody's address. Good bye! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 01:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20212; Wed, 16 Oct 96 01:34:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA09733 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 01:32:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA09728 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 01:32:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDRKC-00038TC; Wed, 16 Oct 96 01:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Zvi Bar-Deroma Subject: Incoming folders - unix pine Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 09:16:25 GMT Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Hi, I wonder whether there's a way to have a hierarchical folder tree for pine (in unix) ? Using a flat file scheme, where all the folders are in one directory (eg: $HOME/mail) complicates the task of somehow controlling and organzing these folders. Regards, /Zvika Zvika Bar-Deroma Systems and Network manager Phone: (+972)-4-829-2706 Faculty of Aerospace Engineering, Fax : (+972)-4-823-1848 Technion Home phone: Haifa 32000 (+972)-4-823-5562 Israel Internet : zvika@aeserv.technion.ac.il ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 02:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20522; Wed, 16 Oct 96 02:05:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA17044 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 02:02:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA17039 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 02:02:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDRlx-00038TC; Wed, 16 Oct 96 01:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mfuhr@dimensional.com (Michael Fuhr) Subject: Re: Executing a script from .forward Date: 8 Oct 1996 22:54:58 -0600 Message-Id: <53fb72$k7a@nova.dimensional.com> References: <53f1cm$ahb@ralph.vnet.net> spanosa@lys.vnet.net (spanosa) writes: >I believe it is possible to execute a script from with in the .forward >file. I would like to run a script which parses incoming mail messages >into separate html files as they arrive. I've tested the script and it >works correctly but the only other way I can think of doing it is by >running a cron process every now and then. It would be much more elegant >though if it could be done on the fly. "|/path/to/your/program arg1 arg2 arg3" -- Michael Fuhr mailto:mfuhr@dimensional.com http://www.dimensional.com/~mfuhr/ http://www.dimensional.com/~mfuhr/pgp.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 03:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21299; Wed, 16 Oct 96 03:18:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA11059 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 03:14:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id DAA11054 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 03:14:47 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQblqu23362; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 06:14:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA10045; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:15:37 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA24857; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:13:27 -0300 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 19:13:26 +0300 (GMT-3) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan Reply-To: Omar Butaiban To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII is there a way to send an email that i recieved auto-matically to another acount??? *********************************************************************** *** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** college of engineering *** ** Computer Engineering *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** Kuwait University *** ** *** ** *********************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 03:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21325; Wed, 16 Oct 96 03:20:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA11109 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 03:17:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA11104 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 03:17:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDStI-00038TC; Wed, 16 Oct 96 03:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joe Klein Subject: News posting error Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:58:35 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was trying to Following-Up to a news article and got the following: [Error posting message: 441 Article not posted -- more included text than new text] I understand what this means, but it doesn't seem right. Isn't it reasonable that sometimes a follow-up would be shorter than the original text. Do other news tools enforce the same restriction ? Is there any way of turning this off in Pine ? Joe Klein Expert Alerts From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 03:24:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21354; Wed, 16 Oct 96 03:24:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA11052 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 03:14:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id DAA11047 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 03:14:39 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQblqu23352; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 06:14:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA10059; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:16:11 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA24860; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:14:01 -0300 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 19:14:00 +0300 (GMT-3) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan Reply-To: Omar Butaiban To: ipine-info Cc: Omar Butaiban Subject: mailing two persons Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII is there a way in pine that if i recieved an email to my acount this email can also go to another acount !!! can i do this in pine? can i do this in vax system also ? thanks *********************************************************************** *** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** college of engineering *** ** Computer Engineering *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** Kuwait University *** ** *** ** *********************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 03:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21516; Wed, 16 Oct 96 03:49:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA11424 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 03:42:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA11419 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 03:42:37 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 16 Oct 96 18:40:32 +0800 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:38:53 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Omar Butaiban Cc: pine-info Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: > is there a way to send an email that i recieved auto-matically > to another acount??? This has already been asked/answered a few times this past week or two. On U*IX systems the .forward file is the method of choice. Try "man forward" or "man sendmail" for more information. In some private email we had....you asked about forwarding from a VAX. The email I sent you bounced since your .forward file on the above account must have been set incorrectly. (I didn't save the error). I don't speak VAX...but maybe others on the list do? Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 04:21:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21450; Wed, 16 Oct 96 04:21:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA18906 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 04:18:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id EAA18901 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 04:18:00 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:10:02 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA16647; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:13:13 +0100 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:13:13 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Ed Greshko Cc: Omar Butaiban , pine-info Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" To set up mail forwarding for a VAX/VMS system (so that arriving mail gets redirected elsewhere)... 1. Login to the VAX. 2. Start MAIL. 3. Give the mail program the command: SET FORWARD=xxxxx where xxxxx is the e-mail address you want mail redirecting to 4. EXIT to get out of mail Other useful mail commands: SHOW FORWARD SET NOFORWARD (All this is actually descibed within VAX MAIL if you type "HELP"!) Word of caution: VAX/VMS systems usually _don't_ use standard Internet addresses for e-mail addresses. I am presuming you know how to use such addresses on your system. If not you will need to ask advice locally, as it depends what mail gateway software has been installed on the computer. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > In some private email we had....you asked about forwarding from > a VAX. The email I sent you bounced since your .forward file on the > above account must have been set incorrectly. (I didn't save the error). > I don't speak VAX...but maybe others on the list do? > > Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 04:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21787; Wed, 16 Oct 96 04:21:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA12019 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 04:14:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id EAA12013 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 04:14:49 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:04:43 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA15346; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:09:38 +0100 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:09:38 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Joe Klein Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: News posting error In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Joe Klein wrote: > I was trying to Following-Up to a news article and got the following: > > [Error posting message: 441 Article not posted -- more included text than > new text] > > I understand what this means, but it doesn't seem right. Isn't it > reasonable that sometimes a follow-up would be shorter than the original > text. This may be true. Note however that the message is not referring simply to the size of your reply article compared with the original article, but is actually referring to the proportion of "new" text _within_ your reply article compared with the amount of "old" text you included and quoted. > Do other news tools enforce the same restriction ? This check is not performed by Pine or any other news reading program that I'm aware of. Instead it is an option of the news server that you are connecting to. The news reading program (in this case Pine) is simply reporting to you the error message returned to it by the news server software as it attempted to post your article. > Is there any way > of turning this off in Pine ? No (it isn't Pine; see above). Instead you will have to try beating your News Administrator over the head with a wet kipper and see if they can be persuaded to turn the check off on the news server software itself. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 04:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21849; Wed, 16 Oct 96 04:23:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA18946 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 04:20:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA18941 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 04:20:30 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 16 Oct 96 19:18:24 +0800 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 19:19:16 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko To: Omar Butaiban Cc: ipine-info Subject: Re: mailing two persons In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: > is there a way in pine that if i recieved an email to my acount > this email can also go to another acount !!! > can i do this in pine? > can i do this in vax system also ? Again.....kindly consult your man pages about the .forward facility of sendmail..... You will find the .forward file can contain: \butaiban person@foo.bar.edu.kw mother@simpson.com.kw Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 04:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21990; Wed, 16 Oct 96 04:38:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA19104 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 04:35:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA19099 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 04:35:23 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:27/EUnetD-2.6.0.d) via EUnet id NAA06918; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:31:42 +0200 Message-Id: <199610161129.NAA03507@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id NAA03507; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:29:28 +0200 From: Rudolf Kompf Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:28:45 +0200 (MET DST) To: Omar Butaiban Cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: -> -> -> is there a way to send an email that i recieved auto-matically -> to another acount??? -> -> *********************************************************************** -> *** ** -> Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** -> *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** -> college of engineering *** ** -> Computer Engineering *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** -> Kuwait University *** ** -> *** ** -> *********************************************************************** -> "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" -> -> This isn't Pine's task. Use a pipe in your ~/.forward file (on Un*x) to forward your mail. If you have different conditions for delivering mail then use the procmail package and call procmail in your ~/.forward file. Then your mail handling conditions can be written in descriptive form in a file named ~/.procmailrc Hope this helps. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 06:24:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22698; Wed, 16 Oct 96 06:24:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA20327 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 06:21:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kits.cs.vu.nl (kits.cs.vu.nl [130.37.16.15]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id GAA20316 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 06:20:41 -0700 Received: from localhost by kits.cs.vu.nl with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #27) id m0vDVtT-000BurC; Wed, 16 Oct 96 15:20 +0200 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 15:20:19 +0200 (MET DST) From: Marni Cheung To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: getting mail in pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, In my former school I use the elm and the pine program for reading my mail. But now I can only read mail in the elm and not in the pine. I could only send mail in pine. How does that come? What should I do if I want to read mail and get the mail in pine? thanks ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ BYE, \ ||| / \|||/ (@ @) -|-------o00-( )-00o--------------|- | Marni Lau Ni | | Mail to: lncheung@cs.vu.nl | | **************************** | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 06:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22706; Wed, 16 Oct 96 06:36:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA20479 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 06:32:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA20474 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 06:32:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDVxF-00038TC; Wed, 16 Oct 96 06:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: murdock@psg.com Subject: |||||||| HELP ||||||||| Changing Newgroup Headers! Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:26:01 GMT Message-Id: <3264e1f6.216459@nnrp.usc.edu> Is there a way to change the default newgroup header columns so that instead of displaying msg number, date, author and subject I could transpose author and subject? My goal is to get more of the subject line and less information on the author. Thanks. I have searched the archives of this newsgroup and also the FAQ but cannot find an answer to this question. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 07:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23146; Wed, 16 Oct 96 07:03:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA20897 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 07:01:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id HAA20892 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 07:01:37 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:52:14 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id OAA20389; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:57:16 +0100 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:57:16 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: murdock@psg.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: |||||||| HELP ||||||||| Changing Newgroup Headers! In-Reply-To: <3264e1f6.216459@nnrp.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" There is certainly a way (in Pine 3.95) of changing the format of the Index screens. However be warned that it will affect all your Index screens, including those of your INBOX and mail folders. To read about/do it... 1. At Pine's Main Menu type "S" then "C" to go to the Setup Configuration screen. 2. Look down the list of configurable options for "index-format" (down near the bottom). 3. Put your cursor on this line and type "?" to see the built-in help for this item. This should get you started. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 16 Oct 1996 murdock@psg.com wrote: > Is there a way to change the default newgroup header columns so that > instead of displaying msg number, date, author and subject I could > transpose author and subject? My goal is to get more of the subject > line > and less information on the author. > > Thanks. I have searched the archives of this newsgroup and also the > FAQ > but cannot find an answer to this question. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:09:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24867; Wed, 16 Oct 96 08:09:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA22009 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:05:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id IAA21994 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:05:49 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQblro07933; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:05:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA03824; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:05:35 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA29618; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:03:24 -0300 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 00:03:24 +0300 (GMT-3) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-info Subject: mailing two persons (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII *********************************************************************** *** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** college of engineering *** ** Computer Engineering *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** Kuwait University *** ** *** ** *********************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 19:14:00 +0300 (GMT-3) From: Omar Butaiban To: ipine-info Cc: Omar Butaiban Subject: mailing two persons is there a way in pine that if i recieved an email to my acount this email can also go to another acount !!! can i do this in pine? can i do this in vax system also ? thanks *********************************************************************** *** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** college of engineering *** ** Computer Engineering *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** Kuwait University *** ** *** ** *********************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24961; Wed, 16 Oct 96 08:13:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA22095 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:11:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun.iwu.edu (sun.iwu.edu [206.153.81.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id IAA22090 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:11:11 -0700 Received: from localhost (awyant@localhost) by sun.iwu.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA13602 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 10:08:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 10:08:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrea Wyant Reply-To: Andrea Wyant To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I am a freshman at Illinois Wesleyan University in Bloomington, Illinois, and I am wondering if there is any way you can search for addresses of people who attend other colleges including those in other states. If anyone has an answer to this, e-mail me at: awyant@sun.iwu.edu. I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you. Andrea Wyant From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:21:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25157; Wed, 16 Oct 96 08:21:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA15426 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:14:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id IAA15418 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:14:20 -0700 Received: from yu1.yu.edu (yu1.yu.edu [129.98.200.100]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA20495 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:14:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA21524; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:12:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:12:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Eta Katsman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help (fwd) Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:07:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Eta Katsman To: pine-info@cac.uwashingoton.edu Subject: help Hello, I have a question maybe you can help me with. I'm using Pine3.95, and want to download a picture someone sent to me. I saved it, went into kermit,and tried to download it, but it did't work. The computer people here cannot help me. Please write back, thanks, Eta From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25823; Wed, 16 Oct 96 08:46:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA16091 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:43:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA16086 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:42:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDXyc-00038BC; Wed, 16 Oct 96 08:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Wee min Goh Subject: read special charater mail Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 09:07:24 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi, could samebody tell me how to read speacial charater mail. the mail has the word "cut here" or "begin here" what that's mean. thank you From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 10:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28518; Wed, 16 Oct 96 10:19:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA25223 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 10:13:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA25218 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 10:13:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDZRq-00038TC; Wed, 16 Oct 96 10:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ecantu@uh.edu (Enrico Cantu) Subject: mailbox/process locking in Pine Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:56:24 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, I just built and installed Pine 3.95 on a MkLinux machine. (MkLinux, for those that aren't familiar, is a native Linux port to PowerPC Macs, but for all intensive purposes of this question, treat it as an x86 Linux equivalent) When any user runs Pine, it gives the following message: [Mailbox is open by another process, access is readonly] But there is no obvious process contention present. The permissions for /var/spool/mail are drwxrwxrwt, and each user owns their own spool file. I'm running sendmail 8.7.4 in daemon mode. (-bd) The funny thing is that other mail programs, namely elm, work absolutely fine. So does popper, even clearing the spool when finished. Help! Many thanks, Enrico P.S. Please cc:to my email address. -- Enrico Cantu http://www.bchs.uh.edu/~ecantu/ Department of Biochemical and Biophysical Sciences, University of Houston, 713.743.1517 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 10:22:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28608; Wed, 16 Oct 96 10:22:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA25376 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 10:19:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs-mail.bu.edu (ACS-MAIL.BU.EDU [128.197.153.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id KAA25368 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 10:18:58 -0700 Received: from bu.edu (MED-PHYSIO11.BU.EDU [155.41.110.9]) by acs-mail.bu.edu (8.7.6/BU_Server-1.3) with SMTP id NAA44532; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:16:52 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:16:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Gregor J Jones Reply-To: Gregor J Jones To: "G. Nylund" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: cut and paste In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, G. Nylund wrote: | I have a couple messages in my saved folder. I want to cut sections out of | each and compose a new message including those cuts. I can't seem to find | a way to do that. Any suggestions? There has been at least one other similar request recently. However, Pine does not have a straightforward way of doing this. What you need to do is look at each of those messages and export them into a file, and then, when composing the new message, read in the file and use mark (ctrl^ to set a mark followed by cursor movement to mark text) and cut to remove those parts you do not want, or mark and paste to move those parts that you want to move. A nice sophistication is to 'view' the message first before export (save). This way you will not save the headers, if you do not want to subsequently have to remove them. Yours Gregor __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ Gregor J Jones Tel: 617-638-5336 (Lab) Department of Physiology 617-282-4484 (Home) Boston University School of Medicine Fax: 617-638-4273 Boston MA 02118 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:01:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29725; Wed, 16 Oct 96 11:01:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA19719 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 10:58:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA19714 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 10:58:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDa8h-00038BC; Wed, 16 Oct 96 10:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bashley@ktb.net (Bev) Subject: Re: Newsreader NNTP XOVER command Date: 12 Oct 1996 06:00:34 GMT Message-Id: <53nc62$pha@dns.ktb.net> References: <53jm66$p1r@parsec.inka.de> | > Just don't use a mailreader as a newsreader. | Pine - a Program for Internet News & Email | ^ ^ ^ ^ | Hmmm... Looks like a newsreader to me. It is. It just isn't a GOOD one. Great for mail, though. And pico is a fine text editor. Try tin for news. Bev bashley@ktb.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% "Parasites plus suckers do not add up to a community." -- Thomas Sowell From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30697; Wed, 16 Oct 96 11:41:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA20801 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:38:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA20796 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:38:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDalV-00038TC; Wed, 16 Oct 96 11:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Pawel Misiak Subject: Re: Pine - a Program for Internet News & Email Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:57:19 +0200 Message-Id: <326505DF.ABD@info.wcss.wroc.pl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, once again the same question: how can I read the mail of another user in the same system? I run the AIX 4.1, and I have three accounts. I would like to read mail from all the accounts starting single Pine. -- Pawel Misiak From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30716; Wed, 16 Oct 96 11:42:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA27608 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:38:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA27599 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:38:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDalO-00038BC; Wed, 16 Oct 96 11:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: saper@sgh.waw.pl (Marcin Cieslak) Subject: Re: "Invalid INBOX format" help! Date: 16 Oct 1996 15:47:59 GMT Message-Id: <54303f$bns@onyx.sgh.waw.pl> References: In-Reply-To: Perhaps there is a problem with NFS locking. Generally, it is not a very good idea to have a mailbox imported via NFS. Do other users have similar problem? -- << Marcin Cieslak // saper@sgh.waw.pl >> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31663; Wed, 16 Oct 96 12:11:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA28537 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:08:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA28532 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:08:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDbEJ-00038BC; Wed, 16 Oct 96 12:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ye Hong Subject: Spell Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:51:46 -0400 Message-Id: <326512A2.446B@audry.gsfc.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How can I make spelling work ? Spelling function works for some machines, but not for my current SGI IRIX5.3. Thanks. Ye From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31780; Wed, 16 Oct 96 12:14:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA21798 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:12:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.rtt.co.za ([196.13.113.237]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA21782 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:12:02 -0700 Received: from rtt.co.za (k200 [196.13.113.238]) by mail.rtt.co.za (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id VAA29662 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:12:35 +0200 Received: from localhost (chadleyr@localhost) by rtt.co.za (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA11659 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:11:29 +0200 (SAST) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:11:29 +0200 (SAST) From: Chad To: PINE-INFO@cac.washington.edu Subject: HELP MENU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII IS THERE A BOOKLET THAN CAN BE PROVIDED SHOWING HOW TO CHANGE SOME OF THE SETUP FUNCTIONS AND ALSO POINTING OUT THE FINER DETAILS OF FUNCTIONS NOT MENTIONED OR COVERED FULLY IN THE PINE HELP SCREENS YOUR ASSISTANCE WILL BE APPRECIATED Regards Chadley RTT NEWCASTLE Chadleyr@RTT.co.za ****MOTIVATION IS THE KEY TO SUCCESS**** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:37:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03965; Wed, 16 Oct 96 14:37:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA26342 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:23:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA26337 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:23:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDdLz-00038BC; Wed, 16 Oct 96 14:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: R R Neuswanger Subject: messages on/off? Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 15:37:27 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A colleague whom I am trying to help learn to use pine shows up on finger (with pine suspended) with a line saying "messages off"! Is this something we can change (with her sign-on, of course), or do we need a guru? R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP) Freedom is my issue: I'm pro- Library of Congress choice, -concealed-carry, and Washington, DC 20540-4120 -right-to-die. And I vote. rrne@loc.gov I speak for me. Only. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04226; Wed, 16 Oct 96 14:46:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA03826 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:33:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA03821 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:33:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDdTN-00038TC; Wed, 16 Oct 96 14:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: steinars@stud.osir.hihm.no (Steinar Stjerna) Subject: Pine for dos? Date: 15 Oct 1996 14:46:21 GMT Message-Id: <54083t$cth@studserv.osir.hihm.no> Hllo out there! does it exsist anny versjon of Pine for ms/dos? -Steinar- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04412; Wed, 16 Oct 96 14:58:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA04273 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:47:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs-mail.bu.edu (ACS-MAIL.BU.EDU [128.197.153.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id OAA04262 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:47:01 -0700 Received: from bu.edu (MED-PHYSIO11.BU.EDU [155.41.110.9]) by acs-mail.bu.edu (8.7.6/BU_Server-1.3) with SMTP id RAA100904; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:44:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:44:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Gregor J Jones Reply-To: Gregor J Jones To: rabia , D M Freye Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How I can send mail using different name ? In-Reply-To: <01bbb7bd$6a63fbe0$b0035ac2@rabia> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 11 Oct 1996, rabia wrote: | My work is Support mail and i want to be able to send email using other | names | how i can change the " From field " name ? On 15 Oct 1996, D.M. Freye wrote: | I am using Pine on a multiuser Unix system. Any email I send with pine | automatically has my email address on the Unix system as the From: address | in the email. Does anyone know if it is possible to change the email | address shown in the From: field to something I choose myself. It is not usually possible to change the From: field. This appears to be generally considered to be good for reasons of security and propriety. In any case, why do you want to change it? What are you trying to hide? I can think of no (legitimate) reason to do so. Would you send a letter and write a false return address on it? If you were to receive snail mail with an obviously or not so obviously false address, would you do more than puzzle at it? In any case, even if you could change it, it might not do much good. At this site, at least, the From: field is stripped by sendmail _after_ Pine has dealt with it, so that the address conforms to user@domain. There are obvious security considerations here. I am aware that some (but not me) would insist on the possibility of anonymity, but I ask you again: what would you do if you receive an anonymous letter? (... on the other hand, there is a tradition in England of sending anonymous love letters on Saint Valentine's day ...). What about taking somebody's mail to the Post Office and putting it in the mailbox? Well, it apears that you can't do that with Pine either. But, what you can do is ask your recipient(s) to reply to someone else, or yourself somewhere else. To do this, include the header Reply-to: in your messages. Information on how to do this can be found in the help for "setup", "config", "customized-hdrs". Read carefully. Yours Gregor __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ Gregor J Jones Tel: 617-638-5336 (Lab) Department of Physiology 617-282-4484 (Home) Boston University School of Medicine Fax: 617-638-4273 Boston MA 02118 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 15:21:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04782; Wed, 16 Oct 96 15:21:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA27828 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 15:13:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA27823 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 15:13:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDe8N-00038TC; Wed, 16 Oct 96 15:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Chris Newton" Subject: Fonts under PC-Pine?? Date: 16 Oct 1996 14:00:50 GMT Message-Id: <01bbbb6a$e9fcffe0$243f0298@newton> Hello, I've recently started using PC-Pine 3.95 under NT 4.0. I like the client, but I can't seem to get the program to see more than a few fonts (Courier, Fixedsys, Lucida Console), none of which look very good. Could someone explain why this happens and (hopefully) how to get more fonts to show up? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Chris From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 16:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06800; Wed, 16 Oct 96 16:35:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA29897 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 16:32:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA29892 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 16:32:03 -0700 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 17 Oct 96 07:29:57 +0800 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 07:29:56 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko Reply-To: Edward M Greshko To: yR R Neuswanger Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: messages on/off? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, R R Neuswanger wrote: > A colleague whom I am trying to help learn to > use pine shows up on finger (with pine suspended) with a > line saying "messages off"! Is this something we can > change (with her sign-on, of course), or do we need a > guru? Of course the "messages off" has nothing to do with email messages. It has to do with the ability of another user on the system using "write" to "talk" to their termial. Check your setup/config for the state of the "allow-talk" option. Reading the help is a good lesson as well. In addition, it is possible that the account is set such that messages are turned off by default. Check the man page on the "mesg" command. Issue the "mesg" command from the command line. If messages are turned off...you can enable them with the same command. You can add the command to your .profile, .login, or .cshrc....or whatever startup file makes sense. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:47:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08440; Wed, 16 Oct 96 17:47:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA09135 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:44:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id RAA09128 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:44:32 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA00696; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:44:20 -0700 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:44:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Zvi Bar-Deroma Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Incoming folders - unix pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hierarchical folder support is coming in Pine 4.xx -teg On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Zvi Bar-Deroma wrote: > Hi, > > I wonder whether there's a way to have a hierarchical folder tree for > pine (in unix) ? Using a flat file scheme, where all the folders are > in one directory (eg: $HOME/mail) complicates the task of somehow > controlling and organzing these folders. > > > Regards, > /Zvika > > Zvika Bar-Deroma > Systems and Network manager Phone: (+972)-4-829-2706 > Faculty of Aerospace Engineering, Fax : (+972)-4-823-1848 > Technion Home phone: > Haifa 32000 (+972)-4-823-5562 > Israel > > Internet : zvika@aeserv.technion.ac.il > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08966; Wed, 16 Oct 96 18:21:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA02420 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:19:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from atlas.vcu.edu (atlas.vcu.edu [128.172.1.39]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA02415 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:19:25 -0700 Received: from localhost by atlas.vcu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA86314; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:17:58 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:17:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Liz To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: downloading Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi - my "local support" has not responded to my query, so i am hoping that someone at this address will... my university is trying to get us to use pine instead of elm e-mail, but we are trying to figure out how to download e-mails remotely (at home) so that we can print them out? please help!! it is very important that we are able to print our e-mails! thank you. liz lewis and fellow students virginia commonwealth u. arh4esl@atlas.vcu.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11078; Wed, 16 Oct 96 21:22:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA12534 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:19:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA12529 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:19:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDjpi-00038TC; Wed, 16 Oct 96 21:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Davis Subject: Can't compile pine 3.95 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:47:38 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm a diehard pine fan since '94. So, whenever pine comes put with a new verison I download it and build it on my Linux pc. Now for some reason, I can't seem to get pine 3.95 to build on my system. The funny thing is, Pico and Pilot always compile perfectly when I try to build it from these new sources! At first, I thought it wanted to be built as an ELF binary by an ELF compiler and so forth BUT if that ere true, why would Pico and Pilot always compile perfectly???? I'm currently running a DX4100 pc with 20 megs-o-ram! I intend to upgrade to a Pentium 133 or 166 with 32 megs in about a week or so. And I really wanted to have pine 3.95 for my new sys. Can anyone please help?? Signed, JED the pine fanatic! **BTW, If this is a dumb question, please excuse the fact that I may **have overlooked something obvious, ok? JED'S Special Interest Videos..... For info, send email to: jedmedia@netaxs.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:53:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11363; Wed, 16 Oct 96 21:53:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA05614 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:49:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA05609 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:49:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDkG4-00038BC; Wed, 16 Oct 96 21:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kolak@tri0002.urh.uiuc.edu (Ryan Kolak) Subject: Changing From: Field Date: 16 Oct 1996 21:37:44 GMT Message-Id: <543kj8$5s1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Hi there... I have a slight problem... actually more of an annoyance. Is there any way to change the from field within pine to something else. I realize why this has been made difficult to change, but here is my situation. My host name is tri0002.urh.uiuc.edu. But it isn't mine to keep. It may change at any given moment. Most likely it won't, but regardless, I use a email redirector at uiuc.edu that resloves to my email address at my computer. Basically, my mail then looks like this: From: kolak@tri0002.urh.uiuc.edu Reply-To: kolak@uiuc.edu While this works, there are mailers that don't respect the Reply-To field, and then it is still up to the people to chose to use the reply-to field. Any help is appreciated. Ryan -- -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11036; Wed, 16 Oct 96 22:17:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA13272 for pine-info-out; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:11:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA13265 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:11:42 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 17 Oct 96 13:09:36 +0800 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:07:56 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Ryan Kolak Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Changing From: Field In-Reply-To: <543kj8$5s1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 16 Oct 1996, Ryan Kolak wrote: > Hi there... I have a slight problem... actually more of an annoyance. > > Is there any way to change the from field within pine to something else. > I realize why this has been made difficult to change, but here is my situation. > > My host name is tri0002.urh.uiuc.edu. But it isn't mine to keep. It may change > at any given moment. Most likely it won't, but regardless, I use a email > redirector at uiuc.edu that resloves to my email address at my computer. > > Basically, my mail then looks like this: > From: kolak@tri0002.urh.uiuc.edu > Reply-To: kolak@uiuc.edu > > While this works, there are mailers that don't respect the Reply-To field, and > then it is still up to the people to chose to use the reply-to field. > Do you mind to recompile? Find the pine/osdep/os-xxx.h file of you choice and look for: /*---------------------------------------------------------------------- Define this if you want to allow the users to change their From header line when they send out mail. The users will still have to configure either default-composer-hdrs or customized-hdrs to get at the From header, even if this is set. ----*/ /* #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM /* comment out to not allow changing From */ Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 00:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12850; Thu, 17 Oct 96 00:16:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA15009 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 00:14:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nvsgi1.netvision.net.il (nvsgi1.NetVision.net.il [194.90.1.31]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id AAA15002 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 00:13:57 -0700 Received: from nvt (nvt.NetVision.net.il [194.90.6.14]) by nvsgi1.netvision.net.il (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00600; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 09:13:30 +0200 (IST) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 09:13:45 +0200 (IST) From: Rabia Qusseiny X-Sender: rabia@nvt To: Gregor J Jones Cc: D M Freye , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How I can send mail using different name ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi , Thank you very much for your Email , I guess i didn't explain my self good in my first email , so i understand your reply , and the way you talked about Hide, anonymous ,security etc... well i'll Explain now . I am a SysAdmin in a Big ISP Internet provider (netvision.net.il) , in my department we support customers using Email. well i am responsible about these issues - bigmail , bigftp, news,system, So when i want to send mail to a customer i can't every time to login to other mailbox and send the mail from there , for example i want to send mail to a customer that have a bigmail in his mailbox so i send it as bigmail@netvision.net.il ... and if i want to send it as news support , so i send using news@netvision.net.il , and all the other mail support are the same. I hope that you understand me now , this problem with Pine is not My only problem all my department suffer from this issue. becouse when i send a message using my computer , the client send back the email " using my address ", my private email. the truth is that my friend using now elm becouse there is an option Group reply , and you can send the mail using any Mail List You want. I tried to add the Reply-to option but the customers keep sending mail to my private Name .!! I Hope now i explained my problem and you understand that i am not a Kid who want to make Fun and send anonymous emails. Please if there any program or special way to solve this issue . We need IT. Thanks again for your Email. And i hope our problem can be solved. Rabia . On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Gregor J Jones wrote: > On 11 Oct 1996, rabia wrote: > > | My work is Support mail and i want to be able to send email using other > | names > | how i can change the " From field " name ? > > On 15 Oct 1996, D.M. Freye wrote: > > | I am using Pine on a multiuser Unix system. Any email I send with pine > | automatically has my email address on the Unix system as the From: address > | in the email. Does anyone know if it is possible to change the email > | address shown in the From: field to something I choose myself. > > It is not usually possible to change the From: field. This appears to be > generally considered to be good for reasons of security and propriety. In > any case, why do you want to change it? What are you trying to hide? I can > think of no (legitimate) reason to do so. Would you send a letter and > write a false return address on it? If you were to receive snail mail with > an obviously or not so obviously false address, would you do more than > puzzle at it? In any case, even if you could change it, it might not do > much good. At this site, at least, the From: field is stripped by sendmail > _after_ Pine has dealt with it, so that the address conforms to > user@domain. There are obvious security considerations here. > > I am aware that some (but not me) would insist on the possibility of > anonymity, but I ask you again: what would you do if you receive an > anonymous letter? (... on the other hand, there is a tradition in England > of sending anonymous love letters on Saint Valentine's day ...). > > What about taking somebody's mail to the Post Office and putting it in the > mailbox? Well, it apears that you can't do that with Pine either. But, > what you can do is ask your recipient(s) to reply to someone else, or > yourself somewhere else. To do this, include the header Reply-to: in your > messages. Information on how to do this can be found in the help for > "setup", "config", "customized-hdrs". Read carefully. > > Yours > > Gregor > __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ > Gregor J Jones Tel: 617-638-5336 (Lab) > Department of Physiology 617-282-4484 (Home) > Boston University School of Medicine Fax: 617-638-4273 > Boston MA 02118 > \"|"/ Rabia Qusseiny ( o o ) NonDOS -----------------------oOOo-+-oOOo--------------------- Junior System Administrator - NetVision Ltd. Matam - Scientific Industry Center, Haifa 31905, Israel rabia@netvision.net.il http://www.NetVision.net.il/~rabia Phone: 972-4-8560-600 Extension #585 Fax: 972-4-8550-345 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 00:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12952; Thu, 17 Oct 96 00:27:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA15136 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 00:24:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA15131 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 00:24:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDmhs-00038TC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 00:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ye Hong Subject: Re: Pine - a Program for Internet News & Email Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 16:40:38 -0400 Message-Id: <32654846.794B@audry.gsfc.nasa.gov> References: <326505DF.ABD@info.wcss.wroc.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pawel Misiak wrote: > > Hi, > > once again the same question: how can I read the mail of another user in > the same system? I run the AIX 4.1, and I have three accounts. I would > like to read mail from all the accounts starting single Pine. > -- > > Pawel Misiak Why don't you add .forward file in your multi-accounts so that all emails will finally go to only one account? Good luck. -- Ye From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 02:03:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13411; Thu, 17 Oct 96 02:03:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA09013 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 01:59:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA09008 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 01:59:51 -0700 Received: from ciint by ns.NL.net (5.65b/NLnet1.3) id AA00759; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:40:22 +0200 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa03776; 17 Oct 96 10:28 WET Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:30:18 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering To: Ryan Kolak Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Changing From: Field In-Reply-To: <543kj8$5s1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 16 Oct 1996, Ryan Kolak wrote: > Is there any way to change the from field within pine to something else. > I realize why this has been made difficult to change, but here is my > situation. > > My host name is tri0002.urh.uiuc.edu. But it isn't mine to keep. It may change > at any given moment. Most likely it won't, but regardless, I use a email > redirector at uiuc.edu that resloves to my email address at my computer. > > Basically, my mail then looks like this: > From: kolak@tri0002.urh.uiuc.edu > Reply-To: kolak@uiuc.edu > > While this works, there are mailers that don't respect the Reply-To field, and > then it is still up to the people to chose to use the reply-to field. Since your user name stays the same, you could consider changing your user-domain in the configuration screen. Putting the value "uiuc.edu" in user-domain will effectively change the From: header to "kolak@uiuc.edu". You will notice that an extra header will be added to your message: "X-Sender: kolak@tri0002.urh.uiuc.edu". The original sender therefore remains preserved, but the change in From: should give you what you want. Be aware that this option will also effect all unqualified addresses! That is, a message plainly sent to "root" will no longer go to the root account on your local system, but to "root@uiuc.edu" instead! Hope this helps. Regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | Open minds use Open Systems | | CI International. The Netherlands | (which O.S. are you using?) | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 03:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14452; Thu, 17 Oct 96 03:18:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA17168 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 03:15:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA17157 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 03:15:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDpMZ-00038BC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 03:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: frontier@fii.com Subject: 2Mx32 60ns $34.00 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:34:39 Message-Id: <543nib$cok@news05.deltanet.com> Hi there, I am the Marketing Manager of Frontier Industrial, I would like to let you know of special that we have on 8 MB SIMMS. I can offer you 2MX32 60ns modules @ $34.00 per piece. VARS, DEALERS, DISTRIBUTORS, & SYSTEM INTEGRATORS ONLY PLEASE Frontier Industrial http://www.fii.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 03:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14446; Thu, 17 Oct 96 03:19:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA09840 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 03:15:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA09835 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 03:15:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDpMl-00038TC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 03:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: herberg@aero.und.nodak.edu (Evan P. Herberg) Subject: Re: Threading news messages Date: 17 Oct 1996 01:26:12 -0500 Message-Id: <544ji4$7va@agassiz.cas.und.nodak.edu> References: In article , part of what Koen Claessen wrote: > >I find it very disappointing to see how pine does the news reading. Can I >make this something more useable? Yeah, use TRN. -- ---------------------------- Evan P. Herberg | E-Mail: herberg@cs.und.edu | ---------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 03:22:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14467; Thu, 17 Oct 96 03:22:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA09847 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 03:15:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA09842 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 03:15:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDpNQ-00038VC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 03:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: editor@think.ucdavis.edu () Subject: Re: Changing From: Field Date: 17 Oct 1996 04:28:38 GMT Message-Id: <544clm$rgd@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <543kj8$5s1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Yes, I am in essentially the same situation. Is there some way to instruct PINE to use a different "From:" address? Christian Ryan Kolak (kolak@tri0002.urh.uiuc.edu) wrote: : Hi there... I have a slight problem... actually more of an annoyance. : : Is there any way to change the from field within pine to something else. : I realize why this has been made difficult to change, but here is my : situation. : : My host name is tri0002.urh.uiuc.edu. But it isn't mine to keep. It may change : at any given moment. Most likely it won't, but regardless, I use a email : redirector at uiuc.edu that resloves to my email address at my computer. : : Basically, my mail then looks like this: : From: kolak@tri0002.urh.uiuc.edu : Reply-To: kolak@uiuc.edu : : While this works, there are mailers that don't respect the Reply-To field, and : then it is still up to the people to chose to use the reply-to field. : : Any help is appreciated. : : Ryan : -- : : -- -- ____________________________________________________________________________ think. - A newspaper of literary and visual art. http://think.ucdavis.edu Christian Sandvig, Editor editor@think.ucdavis.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 04:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14894; Thu, 17 Oct 96 04:23:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA18158 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 04:20:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA18153 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 04:20:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDqPP-00038BC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 04:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shekar@gizmo.cs.msstate.edu (Shekar Ramanathan) Subject: Re: Named pipe for .sig ignored? Date: 14 Oct 1996 19:25:07 GMT Message-Id: <53u42j$q5a@NNTP.MsState.Edu> References: <53r267$n7h@NNTP.MsState.Edu> On Oct 13, 1996 I (shekar@gizmo.cs.msstate.edu) wrote: > I am trying to play some tricks with my .signature file by making it > a named pipe in order to generate a new .sig each time. (I am trying > to use the "planner" package I picked off the net.) > For some reason, pine seems to be refusing to read the .signature file > if it is a named pipe. It works just fine (i.e., a new signature is > fed in each time the .signature is read) with other mail progs such > as 'mail', 'elm', and all others I tried. > I will appreciate if anyone could tell me how to get around this > problem. BTW, please feel free to flame me if this has been asked plenty > many times before; our news server stores only about 200 latest articles :( I forgot to mention that I am using PINE 3.95 on SunOS 4.2. Thanks. Shekar -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Shekar Ramanathan | mailto:shekar@CS.MsState.edu Department of Computer Science | http://www.cs.msstate.edu/~shekar Mississippi State University | --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 04:23:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14887; Thu, 17 Oct 96 04:23:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA18168 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 04:20:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA18163 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 04:20:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDqPS-00038TC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 04:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Allan L. Breit" Subject: Pine Upgrade or?? Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 15:40:44 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have noticed two changes while using Pine lately: a) Mac Control-C is no longer effective for cancelling messages. Someone already told me to use esc-esc-C (which works). b) I have not been able to successfully receive/download a document that is created in MSW for Mac and sent as an attachcment from an account in AOL. For months I had no problem. Now when I download using Eudora I get the message in five parts, nothing in the attachement directory. Also, I saved the message into a Pine folder when it came in for the fourth time and the saved message shows no attachement and does not contain any text other than the cover note. The sender insists nothing has "changed" at his end. Since the message I saved in Pine (and then undeleted) was the one I used this morning to get my latest five part message in Eudora I am mystcfied as to what saving the message did to all that data that I got when I opened it using Eudora. The only thing I can think of at this end is that I remember a notice about Pine being "upgraded" recently at CNC. I understand from reading the FAQ sheet posted in the Pine Update server that there is strategy for combining the 5 e-mails which have ended up in my Eudora In Box. BUT, that seems to be going backwards in terms of compatability across platforms, etc. Also, the two changes I have noticed at this end, one totally unrelated to MIME, etc. makes me think the "problem" is at this end. I hope the problem is not totally " between my ears." Allan L. Breit Member, National Association of Professional Organizers (NAPO) 213-848-8535 E-Mail: abreit@concentric.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 04:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14925; Thu, 17 Oct 96 04:24:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA10857 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 04:20:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA10850 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 04:20:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDqPq-00038UC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 04:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dean Pentcheff Subject: Re: eudora Date: 14 Oct 1996 14:49:47 -0400 Message-Id: References: djlang@itsa.ucsf.edu ("Daniel J. Langholtz") writes: > Was advised that I should download Eudora...not sure how to go about this, > any suggestion, pls. > Thank you > Dan Any particular reason you're asking this in the Pine mailer newsgroup, rather than comp.mail.eudora.mac or comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows? You might want to try . -Dean -- N. Dean Pentcheff WWW: http://tbone.biol.sc.edu/~dean/ Biological Sciences, Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29208 (803-777-3936) PGP ID=768/22A1A015 Keyprint=2D 53 87 53 72 4A F2 83 A0 BF CB C0 D1 0E 76 C0 Get PGP keys and information with the command: "finger dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 05:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15511; Thu, 17 Oct 96 05:19:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA11423 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 05:11:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ycp.edu (eagle.ycp.edu [192.245.87.41]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA11418 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 05:11:21 -0700 Received: from goose by ycp.edu (cfv931/SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA04290; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:07:23 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:08:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Dean Barnard X-Sender: dbarnard@goose To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: dbarnard@eagle.ycp.edu Subject: possible pine protocol problem? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Recently my college changed to pine, and I have approximately 20 folders with mail messages in the previous system. Is there any way to transfer a complete folder with its messages to my pine account, or must I mail myself each message individually, one folder at a time, and create a new folder in pine? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 07:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16789; Thu, 17 Oct 96 07:23:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA20287 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 07:20:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA20281 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 07:20:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDtAl-00038TC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 07:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: matthew.a.garland@williams.edu (Matt Garland) Subject: Re: Pine - a Program for Internet News & Email Date: Wed, 16 Oct 96 21:15:53 GMT Message-Id: <543jbc$j1g@goshen.williams.edu> References: <326505DF.ABD@info.wcss.wroc.pl> E-mail wouldn't be very secure if you could read other's e-mail ... but what you can do is, once you log into one account, type su username assuming AIX works the same as other UNIX flavors. You'll have to give the other user's password. But then you'll be able read that user's mail in pine. -matt In article <326505DF.ABD@info.wcss.wroc.pl>, Pawel Misiak wrote: >Hi, > >once again the same question: how can I read the mail of another user in >the same system? I run the AIX 4.1, and I have three accounts. I would >like to read mail from all the accounts starting single Pine. ----------- Matt Garland ------ Williams College, Class of '98 http://wso.williams.edu/~mgarland/ --- La vie Boheme! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 07:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16791; Thu, 17 Oct 96 07:23:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA13042 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 07:20:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA13037 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 07:20:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDtAg-00038BC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 07:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jody Rogers Subject: e-mail addresses. Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:56:07 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi to you all. I am wondering how I would find out the e-mail addresses of some of my friends in other states. If someone could explain...please e-mail me. Thanks a ton! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 07:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17085; Thu, 17 Oct 96 07:35:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA13197 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 07:31:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA13186 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 07:31:38 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:27/EUnetD-2.6.0.d) via EUnet id QAA09221; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:31:31 +0200 Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id QAA27208; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:29:20 +0200 From: Rudolf Kompf Message-Id: Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:44:51 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: Rudolf Kompf To: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Message-ID & Content-ID Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello all: Help In all outgoing mail pine includes Message-ID into the header and (for Mime-encoded attachments) Content-ID into the header and attachment. E.g. Content_ID: where lvb04 is the hostname. We want to delete all hostname information from mails. Deleting such lines from header can be done by sendmail, but Content-ID from attachments? Is it possible to configure or compile Pine so that Pine does'nt include the ID-lines? Rudolf ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 07:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17691; Thu, 17 Oct 96 07:59:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA13627 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 07:55:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA13622 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 07:55:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDti9-00038VC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 07:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI (Holger Lillqvist) Subject: Re: cut and paste Date: 17 Oct 1996 14:44:58 GMT Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thu, 10 Oct 1996 13:19:39 -0500, G. Nylund wrote: : : I have a couple messages in my saved folder. I want to cut sections out of : each and compose a new message including those cuts. I can't seem to find : a way to do that. Any suggestions? : It has been suggested here that you first export the two messages and then read in them into a third, and cut what you don't want. Can be a mess, if the messages in question are long and the wanted sections are rather short... I prefer to use the screen capture function in my terminal program. I append marked regions one by one to a file in my PC hard-disk, and then read in that file to the new message. Check your terminal program for this useful function. -- Holger.Lillqvist@Helsinki.Fi University of Helsinki * Nordica / Institute of literature From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:42:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19335; Thu, 17 Oct 96 08:42:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA14797 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:38:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA14792 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:38:33 -0700 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 17 Oct 96 23:36:30 +0800 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 23:36:30 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Dean Barnard Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: possible pine protocol problem? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Dean Barnard wrote: > Recently my college changed to pine, and I have approximately 20 folders > with mail messages in the previous system. Is there any way to transfer a > complete folder with its messages to my pine account, or must I mail > myself each message individually, one folder at a time, and create a new > folder in pine? > Yes, there are ways. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:42:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19378; Thu, 17 Oct 96 08:42:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA14841 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:40:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id IAA14836 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:40:25 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA11389; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:40:18 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:40:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Holger Lillqvist Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: cut and paste In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Another option is to select the messages of interest and then do "afn" (apply-forward-no), then edit you the pieces you don't want. -teg On 17 Oct 1996, Holger Lillqvist wrote: > Thu, 10 Oct 1996 13:19:39 -0500, G. Nylund wrote: > : > : I have a couple messages in my saved folder. I want to cut sections out of > : each and compose a new message including those cuts. I can't seem to find > : a way to do that. Any suggestions? > : > > It has been suggested here that you first export the two messages and > then read in them into a third, and cut what you don't want. Can be a > mess, if the messages in question are long and the wanted sections are > rather short... > I prefer to use the screen capture function in my terminal program. I > append marked regions one by one to a file in my PC hard-disk, and then > read in that file to the new message. Check your terminal program for > this useful function. > > -- > Holger.Lillqvist@Helsinki.Fi > University of Helsinki * Nordica / Institute of literature > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19581; Thu, 17 Oct 96 08:50:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA14998 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:46:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hermes.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (hermes.rus.uni-stuttgart.de [129.69.1.70]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA14993 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:45:57 -0700 Received: from rpool18.rus.uni-stuttgart.de by hermes.rus.uni-stuttgart.de with SMTP id AA12146 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:45:44 +0100 Received: from localhost by rpool18.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA20677; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:45:42 +0200 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:45:42 +0200 (MES) From: ralf disson To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: question Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hallo, how can I send the same message again without rewriting the text after failing of the transmission because of a wrong address. Thanks Ralf From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19893; Thu, 17 Oct 96 08:58:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA22464 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:55:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA22459 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:55:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDufQ-00038BC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 08:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu Date: 17 Oct 1996 09:49:27 EDT Control: cancel <543nib$cok@news05.deltanet.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <543nib$cok@news05.deltanet.com> no reply ignore Message-Id: Spam/MMF cancelled by dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu original subject was 2Mx32 60ns $34.00 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 09:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20157; Thu, 17 Oct 96 09:04:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA15392 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 09:00:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA15387 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 09:00:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDume-00038BC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 08:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: david.bear@asu.edu Subject: address book synchronization Date: 16 Oct 1996 00:14:50 GMT Message-Id: <5419dq$b0i@news.asu.edu> I have a number of users who use pc pine on there workstations here on campus, then go home and use unix pine from there, and some even have laptops with pc-pine. Is there anyway to synchronize users data like the personal addressbook? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 09:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20226; Thu, 17 Oct 96 09:07:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA15445 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 09:02:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jaffle.lmu.ac.uk (jaffle.lmu.ac.uk [160.9.128.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA15437 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 09:02:11 -0700 Received: from jess-fddi.lmu.ac.uk by jaffle.lmu.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <07406-0@jaffle.lmu.ac.uk>; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:29:36 +0100 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:22:03 +0100 (BST) From: Steven Paul Cummings X-Sender: ig2a0884@jess To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Password Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello Chums, Answer one quick question for yours truely, it is: HOW DO YOU CHANGE YOUR PASSWORD ON THE NEW SETUP??? Thanx, Steve P.S. Do you like the group Oasis? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 09:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20545; Thu, 17 Oct 96 09:19:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA23257 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 09:15:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA23250 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 09:15:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDv1w-00038BC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 09:10 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ez073390@boris.ucdavis.edu (Thang Yuen) Subject: Testing to see Date: 13 Oct 1996 07:17:17 GMT Message-Id: <53q51t$rae@mark.ucdavis.edu> I'm just testing that's all. -- sincerely From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 09:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20962; Thu, 17 Oct 96 09:54:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA16919 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 09:50:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA16914 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 09:50:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDvYZ-00038TC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 09:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Simon Benn Subject: Using pine to approve mailing list postings? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:18:09 GMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, I am starting a moderated mailing list using majordomo. At the moment all the messages are coming in with a BOUNCE subject line. I have to manually strip the old headers and add an approved line. Is there anyone with any experience on this out there? I could really use a smart send filter to do this for me. Thanks, Simon. +================================================================+ | Simon Benn, University of Edinburgh. | Support __ | | E-mail: skb@dcs.ed.ac.uk; | Free //\\ | | 9441155@sms.ed.ac.uk; | Speech \\// | | Home Page: http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/~skb/ | Online!//\\ | | 'Paranoid people live longer' | {/ \}| +================================================================+ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBMmZAMnqdgvQIAfkFAQG5eQL/VEJxn1hXxmn1DGxotb7/5QhTRfvU/b4G 4hJFXZ8KvDXJYD63OfjtlXVyp5tlQ55DhA6ie/r1qYJ9pYV/EWQOCoZoZSblaTpG 8ZAFmmu5c/NBMnOJo5tJlQeUNiDf3mBB =2x2h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21927; Thu, 17 Oct 96 10:08:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA17257 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:05:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id KAA17251 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:05:40 -0700 Received: from localhost (skramer@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA08184; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:05:27 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:05:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Kramer Reply-To: Stefan Kramer To: Pawel Misiak Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: how can I read mail of another userid with pine? In-Reply-To: <3253C48F.41C6@info.wcss.wroc.pl> Message-Id: Organization: "University of Washington, Computing and Communications" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII One quick way to access the INBOX of different accounts you have (whether they are on the same host or on different hosts) is to "GOTO folder" and then specify {hostname} where hostname is the name of the host the account is on; so, for example: {info.wcss.wroc.pl} Each time (in my experience ;) you will be prompted for your username and password, so you can access different accounts even on the same host. You can also set up multiple incoming folders, which is handy if you do this repeatedly; see the help screen for enable-incoming-folders in Pine's SETUP CONFIGURATION screen. One thing to remember when accessing mailboxes on other accounts/hosts, however, is that -- if you reply to or forward messages stored there -- that email will still be "From" the account you used to start Pine. ---------------------------------------------------- Stefan Kramer \|/ skramer@cac.washington.edu ---------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Pawel Misiak wrote: # Hi, # # I have just installed pine 3.95 under AIX 4.1.4. Works fine. In some # text I have read on the possibility of using Pine to read mail on # another accounts than that I have started the program. How can I get the # mailbox on onother accounts? # # -- # # Pawel Misiak # On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Pawel Misiak wrote: # Hi, # # once again the same question: how can I read the mail of another user in # the same system? I run the AIX 4.1, and I have three accounts. I would # like to read mail from all the accounts starting single Pine. # -- # # Pawel Misiak From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22097; Thu, 17 Oct 96 10:12:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA24678 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:09:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.umt.edu (server.umt.edu [150.131.14.70]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id KAA24672 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:09:04 -0700 Received: from selway.umt.edu (selway.umt.edu [150.131.14.2]) by server.umt.edu (8.7.6/8.7.5) with ESMTP id LAA01011 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 11:09:02 -0600 Received: from localhost (mae@localhost) by selway.umt.edu (8.7.5/8.7.2) with SMTP id LAA26130 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 11:09:01 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 11:09:01 -0600 (MDT) From: Melissa M Hagedorn To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, My name is Melissa. I go to the University of Montana in Missoula,Mt. I have been trying to send email to my brother at Iowa State University in Ames, Ia. It will not send to him eventhough I have the correct address. Do you have any solutions? I would appreciate any help! mae@selway.umt.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22259; Thu, 17 Oct 96 10:15:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA24783 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:12:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sunlight.ccs.yorku.ca (sunlight.ccs.yorku.ca [130.63.236.85]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id KAA24778 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:12:28 -0700 Received: from localhost (yu105816@localhost) by sunlight.ccs.yorku.ca (8.7.6/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA12061 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:12:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: sunlight.ccs.yorku.ca: yu105816 owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:12:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Elizabeth Bettencourt X-Sender: yu105816@sunlight.ccs.yorku.ca To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: got big problems Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To whom it may concern, All my messages are coming back to me as "returned mail" due to a "local configuration error". What's the problem? Can it be fixed? Hope you can help. Elizabeth From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21781; Thu, 17 Oct 96 10:20:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA24949 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:17:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA24944 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:17:07 -0700 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 18 Oct 96 01:15:03 +0800 Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 01:15:03 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: ralf disson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, ralf disson wrote: > how can I send the same message again without rewriting the text after > failing of the transmission because of a wrong address. Two ways have been suggested in the past: 1. Go to the outbox and use the "forward" function. You need to edit appears on the screen to change the appearence so it doesn't look like a forwared message...and then send it. 2. Got to the outbox and save the message to the postponed folder. Then, when you type c, pine will ask if you want to continue postponed message. Say yes, fix the address, and send. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22414; Thu, 17 Oct 96 10:23:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA25022 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:20:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id KAA25017 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:20:46 -0700 Received: from localhost (skramer@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA08780 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:20:44 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:20:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Kramer To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Syntax for IMAP Folders and Collections In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: "University of Washington, Computing and Communications" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Syntax for accessing IMAP Folders and Collections using Pine, in addition to that for accessing INBOXes mentioned below, can be found in the Pine Information Center at: http://www.washington.edu/pine/user-guide/info/imap.syntax.html or at the very end of ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/user-guide.txt ---------------------------------------------------- Stefan Kramer \|/ skramer@cac.washington.edu ---------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Stefan Kramer wrote: # # One quick way to access the INBOX of different accounts you have (whether # they are on the same host or on different hosts) is to "GOTO folder" and # then specify # # {hostname} # # where hostname is the name of the host the account is on; so, for example: # # {info.wcss.wroc.pl} # # Each time (in my experience ;) you will be prompted for your username and # password, so you can access different accounts even on the same host. # # You can also set up multiple incoming folders, which is handy if you do # this repeatedly; see the help screen for enable-incoming-folders in Pine's # SETUP CONFIGURATION screen. # # One thing to remember when accessing mailboxes on other accounts/hosts, # however, is that -- if you reply to or forward messages stored there -- # that email will still be "From" the account you used to start Pine. # # ---------------------------------------------------- # Stefan Kramer \|/ skramer@cac.washington.edu # ---------------------------------------------------- # .... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 12:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26516; Thu, 17 Oct 96 12:48:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA29198 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 12:46:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA29193 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 12:46:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDyJa-00038BC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 12:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bs_csce@jhu.edu (Brian) Subject: Mailserv? Date: Thu, 17 Oct 96 16:10:10 GMT Message-Id: <545lov$dkg@news.jhu.edu> Anyone know how I can setup a mailserver w/autoreply if XYZ iss in the subject (or as SUBSCRIBE XYZ) in the text? I have a client account on (I believe it is SunOS) Unix through Hopkins. -Brian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:29:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27361; Thu, 17 Oct 96 13:29:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA00503 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:26:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id NAA00498 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:26:50 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA02999; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:26:04 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:26:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: david.bear@asu.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: address book synchronization In-Reply-To: <5419dq$b0i@news.asu.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Not yet, unless you have the ability to mount your Unix home directory as a PC drive (e.g. via NFS or SMB). But better support for this is planned. -teg On 16 Oct 1996 david.bear@asu.edu wrote: > I have a number of users who use pc pine on there workstations here on campus, > then go home and use unix pine from there, and some even have laptops with > pc-pine. Is there anyway to synchronize users data like the personal addressbook? > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27544; Thu, 17 Oct 96 13:36:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA22668 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:32:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu (watsun.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.39.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id NAA22663 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:32:03 -0700 Received: (from brennan@localhost) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA28630; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:31:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 96 16:31:56 EDT From: Joe Brennan To: Simon Benn Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using pine to approve mailing list postings? In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:18:09 GMT Message-Id: > I am starting a moderated mailing list using majordomo. At the moment all > the messages are coming in with a BOUNCE subject line. I have to manually > strip the old headers and add an approved line. > Is there anyone with any experience on this out there? I could really use > a smart send filter to do this for me. Since Pine does not make it easy to add an Approved header line to selected messages on the fly, probably you want to use the method where the first line of text has the Approved command. Majordomo ("resend" actually) expects the forwarded headers to be the next nonblank line under the Approved command. Pine however puts in this extra line: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- It would be sufficient to remove that, and then Majordomo will pick up the headers off the original message. You don't need to remove them. You can also make a small change in the resend file. Line 145 is where it ignores blank lines until it gets to the headers: if (/^\s*$/) { You could change it to : if (/^\s*$/ || /.*-----.*/) { and then resend will also ignore a line with 5 hyphens in a row. I did it this way because another mail program we use also puts in some hyphens and this takes care of both. Then all you have to do is forward the message with the Approved command in the first line, and leave the rest as is. Joseph Brennan Postmaster Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York postmaster@columbia.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27647; Thu, 17 Oct 96 13:40:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA00699 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:34:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id NAA00694; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:34:04 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA21147; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:34:03 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:34:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Stefan Kramer Cc: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Syntax for IMAP Folders and Collections In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hmmm... looks like we need to update that section to include the (semi-recent) addition of /user= syntax, e.g. {info.wcss.wroc.pl/user=joe}inbox Particularly handy when defining an incoming-folder list. -teg On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Stefan Kramer wrote: > > Syntax for accessing IMAP Folders and Collections using Pine, in addition > to that for accessing INBOXes mentioned below, can be found in the Pine > Information Center at: > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/user-guide/info/imap.syntax.html > > or at the very end of > > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/user-guide.txt > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Stefan Kramer \|/ skramer@cac.washington.edu > ---------------------------------------------------- > > On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Stefan Kramer wrote: > > # > # One quick way to access the INBOX of different accounts you have (whether > # they are on the same host or on different hosts) is to "GOTO folder" and > # then specify > # > # {hostname} > # > # where hostname is the name of the host the account is on; so, for example: > # > # {info.wcss.wroc.pl} > # > # Each time (in my experience ;) you will be prompted for your username and > # password, so you can access different accounts even on the same host. > # > # You can also set up multiple incoming folders, which is handy if you do > # this repeatedly; see the help screen for enable-incoming-folders in Pine's > # SETUP CONFIGURATION screen. > # > # One thing to remember when accessing mailboxes on other accounts/hosts, > # however, is that -- if you reply to or forward messages stored there -- > # that email will still be "From" the account you used to start Pine. > # > # ---------------------------------------------------- > # Stefan Kramer \|/ skramer@cac.washington.edu > # ---------------------------------------------------- > # .... > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28578; Thu, 17 Oct 96 14:08:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA23518 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:06:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA23513 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:06:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDzXr-00038TC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 13:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Johnny Wang Subject: ? on compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 11:38:44 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We recently upgraded to Pine 3.95 from 3.93 on SCO 3.2v4.2. Before, when we are e-mailing, if we typed in a wrong user name, it would popped out an error about the username not correct or something like that. But I just noticed that if I typed in anything that is not in the addressbooks now, it would append our domain name to the end and attempt to send it. I looked through the tech-notes and found this "compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs" which looks like what I need to use. But it was there already in our pine.conf.fixed, but it is not catching the wrong usernames. Am I looking at the correct feature or is there somewhere else that I have to set to catch the wrong usernames? TIA, Johnny From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28929; Thu, 17 Oct 96 14:20:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA23831 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:16:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA23826 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:16:36 -0700 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm4-adr69.interl.net [205.244.161.69]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA10817; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:14:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA00483; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:23:51 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:23:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: John Davis Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Can't compile pine 3.95 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, John Davis wrote: > I'm a diehard pine fan since '94. So, whenever pine comes > put with a new verison I download it and build it on my Linux pc. > > Now for some reason, I can't seem to get pine 3.95 to build on > my system. The funny thing is, Pico and Pilot always compile > perfectly when I try to build it from these new sources! > > At first, I thought it wanted to be built as an ELF binary by > an ELF compiler and so forth BUT if that ere true, why would > Pico and Pilot always compile perfectly???? > > I'm currently running a DX4100 pc with 20 megs-o-ram! I intend > to upgrade to a Pentium 133 or 166 with 32 megs in about a week > or so. And I really wanted to have pine 3.95 for my new sys. Maybe you could post some detailed information such as what make and/or the compiler reported when it wouldn't build. FWIW, I had no problems compiling pine, pico, or pilot under Linux 2.0.0 (Slackware 3.1) on a 486dx2/66 with 4 megabytes of RAM. Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMmZ2sSGB07hAGnFhAQGdXQQAroGPCsteAx8IoL+8Ju2YpiZ5W0VkfkRz SQoQKSATEY0k/oDFp1Tir/ENHFe/8qn/BwaeHGPVTL0jHEPRFFgNyiNPTWxQ4+Iv sLzTSEVo3gTdxn58CogaI03Y9gljb4yszqpIV0odcMWKi44EFCQVa81Oy7O7J4kN 8DMoc2L6JeI= =WrmP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, @interl.net, @geocities.com Web : http://jason.home.ml.org/ Linux Links : http://linux.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:29:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29099; Thu, 17 Oct 96 14:29:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA02049 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:26:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA02038 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:26:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vDzru-00038TC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 14:20 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jcouto@zeus.ucab.edu.ve (Jesus Couto) Subject: Another IMAP client (not PINE) ? Date: 17 Oct 1996 19:39:20 GMT Message-Id: <546218$14qd@zeus.ucab.edu.ve> Here in the UCAB, we have 2 mail servers; a RS/6000 running AIX with PINE as mail client, and a PC server with Lotus cc:Mail. The multiples disavantages of having 2 mail systems (mainly, trying to maintain a coherent list of users in both systems, the incompatibilities, like cc:Mail not supporting MIME, etc.) have decided us to move to a unified UNIX enviroment for mail. Given the nature of the service we offer (big "computer laboratories" for public use, not a stable user-machine relation), we found an IMAP mail system a good alternative. Problem is, switching all cc:Mail users to PC-Pine will seem to them like a downgrade (they find even cc:Mail interface "complex and difficult"). There is a good Windows IMAP client with a graphical interface? Something that don't leave configuration files or "personal" setups, so anyone can use any machine in the network? If you have information about this, please mail me at jcouto@ucab.edu.ve Thanks in advance Jesus Couto F. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30741; Thu, 17 Oct 96 15:30:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA25627 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:26:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA25619 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:26:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vE0l9-00038TC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 15:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: how can I read mail of another userid with pine? Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:17:16 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3253C48F.41C6@info.wcss.wroc.pl> On 17 Oct 1996, Stefan Kramer wrote: > One quick way to access the INBOX of different accounts you have (whether > they are on the same host or on different hosts) is to "GOTO folder" and > then specify > > {hostname} > > where hostname is the name of the host the account is on; so, for example: > > {info.wcss.wroc.pl} > > Each time (in my experience ;) you will be prompted for your username and > password, so you can access different accounts even on the same host. > This assumes that the host is running IMAP service and that pre-authenticated (rsh) connections are not used. If you have configured /etc/rimapd as a link to the imapd executable and have .rhosts configured in each account, you can open the INBOX for user foo with {hostname/user=foo}INBOX An IMAP server is included in the Pine source distribution, or you can get source from ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.tar.Z If everything is on one system, you may get some performance benefit using {localhost/user=foo}INBOX Good luck! --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:08:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31816; Thu, 17 Oct 96 16:08:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA26833 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:05:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA26823 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:05:47 -0700 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 18 Oct 96 07:03:43 +0800 Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 07:03:43 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Melissa M Hagedorn Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Melissa M Hagedorn wrote: > My name is Melissa. I go to the University of Montana in Missoula,Mt. > I have been trying to send email to my brother at Iowa State University in > Ames, Ia. It will not send to him eventhough I have the correct address. > Do you have any solutions? > I would appreciate any help! First, answer this question.... I have a car, but it won't start even though I have the right key. Do you have any solutions? Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31879; Thu, 17 Oct 96 16:10:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA05126 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:07:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA05121 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:07:16 -0700 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 18 Oct 96 07:05:12 +0800 Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 07:05:12 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Elizabeth Bettencourt Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: got big problems In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Elizabeth Bettencourt wrote: > To whom it may concern, It *really* concerns your sys admin. > All my messages are coming back to me as "returned mail" due to a > "local configuration error". What's the problem? Can it be fixed? Sounds like a sendmail or DNS configuration error. It can be fixed. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:21:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32212; Thu, 17 Oct 96 16:21:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA05466 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:17:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA05461 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:17:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vE1ZY-00038BC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 16:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: avardy@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Andrew Vardy) Subject: Pine keeps asking question Date: 14 Oct 1996 20:14:52 GMT Message-Id: <53u6vs$98q@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Every time I press Q to quit Pine, Pine asks me if I want to move all read messages to another folder. If I don't press N then, it does that, and sets all the messages in my inbox as deleted. This drives me nuts. I keep on coming close to deleting all my messages. I have investigated the Pine setup/config screen, and I can't find what is causing this. Any help? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:04:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00923; Thu, 17 Oct 96 17:04:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA06753 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:01:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA06748 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:01:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vE2FC-00038BC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 16:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhd@Radix.Net (Joseph Davidson) Subject: Convert mail address lists between mailers Date: 17 Oct 1996 23:05:48 GMT Message-Id: <546e4c$p50@news1.radix.net> I have Web pages to translate the mailing lists between mailers. Eudora, Netscape, Pine and Elm and (NEW !!!) Pegasus All possible translations are supported. You can find these at www.interguru.com -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Davidson Ph.D. InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting Computer and Network Consulting, Win 95 and Mac 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:05:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00942; Thu, 17 Oct 96 17:05:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA28415 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:01:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA28410 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:01:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vE2F1-00038TC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 16:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: pine default pointer location in main menu Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 22:00:31 GMT Message-Id: <546a4v$1vh@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <1996Oct15.092228.2837@wisipc.weizmann.ac.il> I'm guessing that what you're trying to do is save yourself a keystroke, so you can just hit ENTER to see the index of your INBOX. If I'm right, then you can do the same thing from the Main Menu by just hitting "i" regardless of where the pointer is located. There's another, even better step-saver: Go into Setup/Config, find the option that says "initial-keystroke-list" and add the value "i" to the right of the equals sign. Now when you start Pine you'll bypass the Main Menu all together, and be placed directly in the INBOX. -Ram Basu -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, nava@wishful.weizmann.ac.il (Shaya Nava) wrote: >I have copiled pine 3.95 on ultrix machine, it works fine. >But i have this problem : >In the main menu the default location of the pointer is on the line : >L FOLDER LIST ... > >I would like it to be on : >I FOLDER LIST ... > >any suggestions will be welcome. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01062; Thu, 17 Oct 96 17:13:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA28781 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:10:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.netcom.com (mail.netcom.com [192.100.81.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA28776 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:10:41 -0700 Received: from Basspl1.ix.netcom.com (21.st-louis-005.mo.dial-access.att.net [207.146.220.21]) by mail.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id RAA29815; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:10:56 -0700 Message-Id: <32126B27.7B67@msn.com> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 19:11:19 -0500 From: Mark V Organization: Web page Warehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: free advertising please Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello! I would like to advertise my page, http://members.gnn.com/oldspice/money.htm please e-mail me back! stove_top@msn.com thanks, Mark V From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:42:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01513; Thu, 17 Oct 96 17:42:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA07585 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:39:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id RAA07580 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:39:28 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA27229; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:39:14 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:39:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Jesus Couto Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Another IMAP client (not PINE) ? In-Reply-To: <546218$14qd@zeus.ucab.edu.ve> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII See www.imap.org under PRODUCTS... Esys Simeon, Commtouch, Siren, Netmanage (and soon Netscape Navigator/Messenger and MS Internet Explorer) may all be of interest. (An html version of the list is coming soon.) -teg On 17 Oct 1996, Jesus Couto wrote: > > Here in the UCAB, we have 2 mail servers; a RS/6000 running > AIX with PINE as mail client, and a PC server with Lotus cc:Mail. The > multiples disavantages of having 2 mail systems (mainly, trying to > maintain a coherent list of users in both systems, the > incompatibilities, like cc:Mail not supporting MIME, etc.) have > decided us to move to a unified UNIX enviroment for mail. Given the > nature of the service we offer (big "computer laboratories" for public > use, not a stable user-machine relation), we found an IMAP mail system > a good alternative. Problem is, switching all cc:Mail users to PC-Pine > will seem to them like a downgrade (they find even cc:Mail interface > "complex and difficult"). There is a good Windows IMAP > client with a graphical interface? Something that don't leave > configuration files or "personal" setups, so anyone can use any > machine in the network? If you have information about this, please > mail me at jcouto@ucab.edu.ve > > > Thanks in advance > > Jesus Couto F. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 18:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02025; Thu, 17 Oct 96 18:13:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA29871 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 18:11:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA29860 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 18:11:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vE3NJ-00038BC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 18:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shekar@gizmo.cs.msstate.edu (Shekar Ramanathan) Subject: Named pipe for .sig ignored? Date: 13 Oct 1996 15:34:31 GMT Message-Id: <53r267$n7h@NNTP.MsState.Edu> I am trying to play some tricks with my .signature file by making it a named pipe in order to generate a new .sig each time. (I am trying to use the "planner" package I picked off the net.) For some reason, pine seems to be refusing to read the .signature file if it is a named pipe. It works just fine (i.e., a new signature is fed in each time the .signature is read) with other mail progs such as 'mail', 'elm', and all others I tried. I will appreciate if anyone could tell me how to get around this problem. BTW, please feel free to flame me if this has been asked plenty many times before; our news server stores only about 200 latest articles :( Thanks. Shekar -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Shekar Ramanathan | mailto:shekar@CS.MsState.edu Department of Computer Science | http://www.cs.msstate.edu/~shekar Mississippi State University | --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 18:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02601; Thu, 17 Oct 96 18:49:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA00548 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 18:47:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA00543 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 18:47:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vE3vM-00038TC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 18:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: colin turner Subject: Error 452 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 20:41:44 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Has anyone received an error 452 "insuff" (the rest is cut off)? o ___ -|\/ (o\-o------------------------------- |/\___/ ___ aleph@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu -------o-/o) \/|------------------------- \___/\| From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 18:49:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02609; Thu, 17 Oct 96 18:49:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA08592 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 18:47:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA08578 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 18:46:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vE3v5-00038BC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 18:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gdimitog@polaris.umuc.edu (Georgios Dimitoglou) Subject: Need pico only Date: 18 Oct 1996 01:38:21 GMT Message-Id: <546n2d$b0v@nova.umuc.edu> Hello, I really like using pico and I want it on my machine; however, due to the fact that sendmail has been kinda flimsy --but works now- I dont want to mess with it in any way by installing another mailer...Can I just install pico? If yes, how? Thank you George Dimitoglou ==================================================================== NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center | Univ. of Maryland/College Park georged@achilles.nascom.nasa.gov | gdimitog@polaris.umuc.edu george@lion.nascom.nasa.gov | ==================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03319; Thu, 17 Oct 96 19:49:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA09542 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:47:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail0.u-aizu.ac.jp (mail0.u-aizu.ac.jp [163.143.103.60]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id TAA09537 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:47:03 -0700 Received: from pross25.u-aizu.ac.jp (pross25 [163.143.147.109]) by mail0.u-aizu.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7+codeconv/3.4W4internet-gw) with ESMTP id LAA14864 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:46:43 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pross25.u-aizu.ac.jp (8.7.4+2.6Wbeta6/3.4W4istcmx) with ESMTP id LAA04924 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:44:15 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199610180244.LAA04924@pross25.u-aizu.ac.jp> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help with PICO install: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:44:14 +0900 From: Jonathan Berman Hello, I am now located in Japan and my account here does not have PICO. I always liked that editor, its small, easy, quick, and does exactly what I want it to do. Is it possible for me to get a copy of PICO and install it onto my own personal account for my personal use (I am referring to copyright concerns). I am pretty familiar with UNIX and think I can install it with no problems. I've been searching for a copy of PICO for two days now, if possible can I get the address where I can FTP it. Thank you, Jon -- /------------------------------------\ |~~\_____/~~\__ | | sent by: JON |________ \______====== )-+ | berman@u-aizu.ac.jp | ~~~|/~~ | | | () | check out my ESL webpage! | | http://seamonkey.ed.asu.edu/~jonb | \------------------------------------/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:50:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03325; Thu, 17 Oct 96 19:50:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA01569 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:47:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dns3.uga.edu (DNS3.UGA.EDU [168.24.242.249]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id TAA01564 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:47:39 -0700 Received: from archa4.cc.uga.edu (niki@arch4.cc.uga.edu [128.192.95.104]) by dns3.uga.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA20183 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 22:47:38 -0400 Received: from localhost (niki@localhost) by archa4.cc.uga.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA83708 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 22:47:33 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 22:47:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicole Myers X-Sender: niki@archa4.cc.uga.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do you save an attachment to a disk? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 21:25:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04544; Thu, 17 Oct 96 21:25:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA02930 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 21:23:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA02925 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 21:23:32 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 18 Oct 96 12:21:28 +0800 Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:19:46 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Jonathan Berman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help with PICO install: In-Reply-To: <199610180244.LAA04924@pross25.u-aizu.ac.jp> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 18 Oct 1996, Jonathan Berman wrote: > I am now located in Japan and my account here does not have PICO. I always > liked that editor, its small, easy, quick, and does exactly what I want it to > do. > > Is it possible for me to get a copy of PICO and install it onto my own > personal account for my personal use (I am referring to copyright concerns). > I am pretty familiar with UNIX and think I can install it with no problems. > I've been searching for a copy of PICO for two days now, if possible can I get > the address where I can FTP it. Yes, you can install you own personal copy. You want source, compiled binaries??? ftp ftp.cac.wasington.edu cd pine cd unix-bin -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 21:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04554; Thu, 17 Oct 96 21:25:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA10889 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 21:24:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA10884 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 21:24:08 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 18 Oct 96 12:22:05 +0800 Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:20:22 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Nicole Myers Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Nicole Myers wrote: > How do you save an attachment to a disk? You need to describe your environment. -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 21:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04589; Thu, 17 Oct 96 21:33:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA10983 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 21:32:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA10978 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 21:32:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vE6Ud-00038BC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 21:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: got big problems Date: 18 Oct 1996 04:17:46 GMT Message-Id: <5470da$r6@coconut.epix.net> References: Elizabeth Bettencourt (yu105816@Yorku.CA) wrote: : To whom it may concern, : All my messages are coming back to me as "returned mail" due to a : "local configuration error". What's the problem? Can it be fixed? : Hope you can help. : Elizabeth Try this ... not sure if it will help but some ***ix servers are fussy about case sensitive context: When I queried your server for your address it told me you were: yu105816@yorku.ca ... Not ... yu105816@Yorku.CA Mayhaps not the cause of your problem, but one never knows. Hope this helps. BYE. John From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 22:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05280; Thu, 17 Oct 96 22:59:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA04022 for pine-info-out; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 22:57:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA04017 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 22:57:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vE7om-00038BC; Thu, 17 Oct 96 22:50 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Compiling 3.95 for in Linux Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 08:48:24 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: It looks like "build" on your system invokes some other program that deals with assembly language(?) files. Try "./build" instead. On 14 Oct 1996, System Administrator wrote: > I just grabbed the new version of pine and was attempting to upgrade my > system, but I keep getting errors like this... > > [ROOT@tower][/usr/local/src/pine3.95][133]:## build clean > cannot open clean.s. > [ROOT@tower][/usr/local/src/pine3.95][134]:## build lnx > cannot open lnx.s. > [ROOT@tower][/usr/local/src/pine3.95][135]:## > > Where is it looking for clean.s and lnx.s and what are these files? I > tried... > > [ROOT@tower][/usr/local/src/pine3.95][135]:## touch lnx.s > [ROOT@tower][/usr/local/src/pine3.95][136]:## build lnx > > ^C > [ROOT@tower][/usr/local/src/pine3.95][137]:## > > > and build ran for about 20 minutes before I killed the process. > > > Darin Many > -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 01:10:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06448; Fri, 18 Oct 96 01:10:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA05710 for pine-info-out; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 01:07:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id BAA05704 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 01:07:08 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 18 Oct 1996 09:01:36 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA06644; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 09:06:28 +0100 Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 09:06:28 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Andrew Vardy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine keeps asking question In-Reply-To: <53u6vs$98q@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Hmmm... Well done for looking at the Setup Configuration screen. However it's a shame you didn't spot the two variables which I think are causing your difficulties; they are listed in the first few lines of the screen: read-message-folder = <---- ... feature-list = Set Feature Name --- ---------------------- [ ] allow-talk [ ] assume-slow-link [ ] auto-move-read-msgs <---- If "read-message-folder" is set to a folder name then Pine will *ask* you whether you want all read messages moving to it as you close the INBOX (by quitting Pine). If you want this to happen *without* being asked then you need to turn on the "auto-move-read-msgs" feature. If you don't want this to happen at all (and so leave your read messages sitting in your INBOX) then make sure that "read-message-folder" is unset (or set to "" if your System Administrator has set up a systemwide default folder name). The actions of both variables are describd in Pine's built-in help which you can see by putting the cursor on the variable name and typing "?". Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 14 Oct 1996, Andrew Vardy wrote: > > Every time I press Q to quit Pine, Pine asks me if I want to move all read > messages to another folder. If I don't press N then, it does that, and > sets all the messages in my inbox as deleted. > > This drives me nuts. I keep on coming close to deleting all my messages. > I have investigated the Pine setup/config screen, and I can't find what is > causing this. Any help? > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 04:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08248; Fri, 18 Oct 96 04:12:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA15915 for pine-info-out; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 04:09:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lex.lccc.edu (lex.lccc.edu [198.139.135.128]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA15910 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 04:09:33 -0700 Received: (asc0@localhost) by lex.lccc.edu (8.6.8.1/SCA-6.6) id LAA20382; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:11:50 GMT Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 07:11:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Anna Colosi To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: printing from pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am using Pine 3.95 on sco unix box. When I access from my pc, I cannot print. What do I need to do. Thanks. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Anna Colosi $ Director of Instructional Technology $ Lehigh Carbon Community College $ Schnecksville, PA 18078 $ (610)799-1591 $ fax (610)799-1527 $ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 06:01:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08845; Fri, 18 Oct 96 06:01:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA09202 for pine-info-out; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 05:50:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sunlight.ccs.yorku.ca (sunlight.ccs.yorku.ca [130.63.236.85]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id FAA09197 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 05:50:23 -0700 Received: from localhost (nmorra@localhost) by sunlight.ccs.yorku.ca (8.7.6/8.6.11) with SMTP id IAA12973 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 08:45:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: sunlight.ccs.yorku.ca: nmorra owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 08:45:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Norman Morra X-Sender: nmorra@sunlight.ccs.yorku.ca To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: sent-mail folder Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine: Can you please tell me what the letters before some of my messages mean in this folder. There are mainly 'n' and one 'a' and the rest have nothing. What does it mean? Thanks, Norm Norman Morra 3459 Schomberg Ave. Mississauga, ON. Canada L4Y-2P5 nmorra@yorku.ca 905-279-1949 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 06:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09169; Fri, 18 Oct 96 06:35:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA09722 for pine-info-out; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 06:31:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA09717 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 06:31:21 -0700 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 18 Oct 96 21:29:17 +0800 Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 21:29:17 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Norman Morra Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: sent-mail folder In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 18 Oct 1996, Norman Morra wrote: > Pine: Can you please tell me what the letters before some of my messages > mean in this folder. There are mainly 'n' and one 'a' and the rest have > nothing. What does it mean? Thanks, Norm From the m(ain) menu....go to the i(ndex)....and type ?(help). And *read*. This is called "Information Research". Look at the bottom of your screen. You will either find ?(help) or ^G(Get help). Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 06:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09195; Fri, 18 Oct 96 06:38:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA17498 for pine-info-out; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 06:35:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id GAA17492 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 06:35:16 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 18 Oct 1996 14:28:51 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id OAA07299; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 14:33:58 +0100 Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 14:33:58 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Norman Morra Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: sent-mail folder In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" In the Index screen (where you see these letters) type a "?" to get to Pine's built-in help. Have a read of this, particularly the section a little way down which starts: STATUS: The markings on the left side of the message tell you about its status. You may see one or more of the following codes on any given message: Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 18 Oct 1996, Norman Morra wrote: > Pine: Can you please tell me what the letters before some of my messages > mean in this folder. There are mainly 'n' and one 'a' and the rest have > nothing. What does it mean? Thanks, Norm > > Norman Morra > 3459 Schomberg Ave. > Mississauga, ON. Canada > L4Y-2P5 > nmorra@yorku.ca > 905-279-1949 > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 08:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10255; Fri, 18 Oct 96 08:08:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA11065 for pine-info-out; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 08:05:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from engr.engr.uark.edu (engr.engr.uark.edu [130.184.64.233]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA11058 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 08:05:37 -0700 Received: (qmail 9561 invoked from smtpd); 18 Oct 1996 15:05:35 -0000 Received: from engr25.engr.uark.edu (HELO engr.uark.edu) (130.184.67.225) by engr.engr.uark.edu with SMTP; 18 Oct 1996 15:05:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 1733 invoked by uid 2189); 18 Oct 1996 15:05:09 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:05:07 -0500 (CDT) From: CLINT R ALLISON X-Sender: cra1@engr25 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: question Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a question to ask. Please humor me. How do you transfer messages that you have already received to the "saved-messages" box in the Folder List? Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 09:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13059; Fri, 18 Oct 96 09:21:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA13039 for pine-info-out; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 09:17:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from omzrelay.mci.com (omzrelay.mci.com [199.249.19.40]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA13034 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 09:17:43 -0700 Received: by omzrelay.mci.com; (8.6.12/1.1.8.2/07Nov95-0827AM) id LAA01714; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:17:42 -0500 Received: from crdns.cr.mci.com by omzrelay.mci.com; (8.6.12/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0411PM) id LAA27445; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:17:41 -0500 Received: from ssad950.cr.mci.com by crdns.cr.mci.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA16908; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:18:26 -0500 Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:13:22 -0500 (CDT) From: "sbhandarkar@mcimail.com" X-Sender: suresh@ssad950.cr.mci.com Reply-To: sbhandarkar@mcimail.com To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Configuration issue Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is not a bug-report. I just want to find out means to configure my PINE settings in a particular way. Q. Is there any way to let PINE use user-name other than the one from the /etc/passwd file ? o When I compose any e-mail using PINE, it automatically takes the user name from the "/etc/passwd" file and appends @ followed by the domain name specified under "user-domain"to form the "From" field of the e-mail. o I understand that the "Reply-To" field can be used for that purpose. But when the mail bounces back due to any reason it bounces back to the "From" address instead of the "Reply-To" address. o Please e-mail the solution to sbhandarkar@mcimail.com Thanks Suresh *********************************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 09:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14000; Fri, 18 Oct 96 09:48:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA21588 for pine-info-out; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 09:44:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA21581 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 09:44:14 -0700 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 19 Oct 96 00:42:10 +0800 Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 00:42:09 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko Reply-To: Edward M Greshko To: CLINT R ALLISON Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 18 Oct 1996, CLINT R ALLISON wrote: > I have a question to ask. Please humor me. How do you transfer messages > that you have already received to the "saved-messages" box in the Folder > List? Ahhh....with the s(ave) command? Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 19:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24233; Fri, 18 Oct 96 19:45:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA05235 for pine-info-out; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 19:42:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from obgyn.mssm.edu (obgyn.mssm.edu [146.203.71.9]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id TAA05230 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 19:42:05 -0700 Received: from localhost (morrow@localhost) by obgyn.mssm.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA00265 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 22:40:59 -0400 Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 22:40:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Jon Morrow To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine 3.95 has trouble creating lock file Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi. I upgraded from Pine 3.91 to Pine 3.95 on a Linux system tonight. I installed the pre-compiled Linux/ELF versions of Pine 3.95, Pico 2.9, and imapd 7.8(100) from the washington.edu ftp site. Pine 3.95 *seems* to work, except that when it is invoked by a user other than root, it briefly displays an error message on starting: "Error creating /var/spool/mail/goofy.845962142.184.obgyn.mssm.edu: permission denied". Pine 3.91 didn't (and still doesn't -- I kept a copy) have this problem. The directory /var/spool/mail is owned by root:mail, mode 775. I can't figure out why Pine 3.95 should have trouble creating a lock file in this directory, especially since Pine 3.91 doesn't have. I can't find any reference to this problem in any of the documentation I've been able to get my hands on. Can anybody help? Thanks, -jon From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 19:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27018; Fri, 18 Oct 96 19:52:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA05344 for pine-info-out; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 19:49:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from obgyn.mssm.edu (obgyn.mssm.edu [146.203.71.9]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id TAA05339 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 19:49:50 -0700 Received: from localhost (morrow@localhost) by obgyn.mssm.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA00318 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 22:48:44 -0400 Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 22:48:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Jon Morrow Reply-To: Jon Morrow To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 has trouble creating lock file In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 18 Oct 1996, Jon Morrow wrote: > I can't figure out why Pine 3.95 should have trouble creating a lock file > in this directory, especially since Pine 3.91 doesn't have. I can't find > any reference to this problem in any of the documentation I've been able > to get my hands on. > > Can anybody help? Yes, Mark Crispin could. His reply to my message the Pine support team followed the robot-generated "we'll-do-our-best-but-don't-count-on-a-reply-in-the-near-future" message by about two minutes -- not *quite* fast enough to catch me before I posted my problem here. A simple 'chmod 1777 /var/spool/mail' did the trick. (Evidently, Pine 3.91 also couldn't create the lock file, but it didn't bother reporting it.) -jon From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:27:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27263; Fri, 18 Oct 96 20:27:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA05776 for pine-info-out; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:24:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA05771 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:24:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vERvA-00038BC; Fri, 18 Oct 96 20:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Pine keeps asking question Date: 16 Oct 1996 00:43:02 GMT Message-Id: <541b2m$bk0@due.unit.no> References: <53u6vs$98q@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> <199610152148.WAA10005@lie.matstat.unit.no> [Posted and mailed] In article , Andrew Vardy wrote: > >On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Orjan Johansen wrote: > >> You want read-message-folder. > >Unfortunately I can't find such an option on the config screen. It is >nowhere to be found. It is near the top. I just checked and it appears to be in 3.91 which you are using, although that is now an old version. Delete the setting and things should hopefully get better.. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 21:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28119; Fri, 18 Oct 96 21:41:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA29160 for pine-info-out; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 21:38:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from s1.msi.umn.edu (s1.msi.umn.edu [128.101.24.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id VAA29155 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 21:38:23 -0700 Received: from i9.msi.umn.edu (i9.msi.umn.edu [128.101.28.59]) by s1.msi.umn.edu (8.8.0/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA14718 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 23:38:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (wadhwani@localhost) by i9.msi.umn.edu (8.8.0/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA28667 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 23:38:19 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 23:38:18 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dinesh Wadhwani [Oper. Mgmt Sci]" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: auto reply to certain mails Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Following is my problem 1. certain mails I would not like to receive. Is there some way in pine to automatically bounce the mail back to the sender (only specific sender/s) OR send an automatic reply to a specific sender (like the vacation program ) thank you dinesh - dinesh wadhwani email : wadhwani@msi.umn.edu URL : http://www.msi.umn.edu/Projects/wadhwani Phone : (612)624-7010 Fax : (612)624-1316 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 03:38:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31159; Sat, 19 Oct 96 03:38:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA10793 for pine-info-out; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 03:36:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id DAA10788 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 03:36:20 -0700 Received: from homer25.u.washington.edu (homer25.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.15]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA12280 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 03:36:19 -0700 Received: from localhost (conniehw@localhost) by homer25.u.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA109807 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 03:36:19 -0700 Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 03:36:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "C. Hwang" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: ????? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII to whom it may concern, i'm having problem saving file into my home directory. is there any way you can tell me the instructions on how to get the files out. the main problem is after pressing "v" and "s", it said "can't find the home directory". please help me with your greatful mind and soul. thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 04:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31390; Sat, 19 Oct 96 04:22:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA11452 for pine-info-out; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 04:20:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA11447 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 04:20:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vEZMf-00038WC; Sat, 19 Oct 96 04:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: Change the default newgroup header columns? Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 18:02:03 GMT Message-Id: <545s60$hlf@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: I don't use Pine for news reading, but I think the "index-format" option under Setup/Config will prove helpful. Scroll down to that option and hit "?" for extensive, useful information. I don't know if there's a way to set a different index format for newgroups vs. mail folders. -Ram -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ On 14 Oct 1996, murdock wrote: >Is there a way to change the default newgroup header columns so that >instead of displaying msg number, date, author and subject I could >transpose author and subject? My goal is to get more of the subject line >and less information on the author. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 04:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31402; Sat, 19 Oct 96 04:23:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA03926 for pine-info-out; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 04:20:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA03921 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 04:20:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vEZMa-00038VC; Sat, 19 Oct 96 04:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Namjin Chung Subject: Receipt function in Pine? Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 12:29:19 +0000 Message-Id: <3266269F.6038@acpub.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Pine Users: Does Pine has a "receipt" function which enables you to check if your email recipient has received your email? If so, please tell me how to set up. If not, is there any way to emulate this? TIA. Namjin Chung Duke University Medical Center nc1@acpub.duke.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 04:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29754; Sat, 19 Oct 96 04:23:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA11462 for pine-info-out; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 04:20:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA11456 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 04:20:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vEZMr-00038ZC; Sat, 19 Oct 96 04:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: paletta@j51.com (Perry Paletta) Subject: .signature file Date: 17 Oct 1996 16:33:19 GMT Message-Id: <545n4f$5sg@tzlink.j51.com> Does this work with pine? I only seem to get it when I post to newsgroups as shown below. What directory should it be in? I currenlty have it in my home directory. -- HeadBone website: http://www.rcknet.com/headbone From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 04:23:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31432; Sat, 19 Oct 96 04:23:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA03933 for pine-info-out; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 04:20:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA03928 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 04:20:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vEZMg-00038YC; Sat, 19 Oct 96 04:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: + marks on e-mail Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:34:06 GMT Message-Id: <545n14$br8@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: If you're using Pine 3.95, check out the Setup/Config option called "alt-addresses." It does just what you want; each user should enter his/her alias as an "alt-address" to have Pine recognize it as a valid address for him/her. -Ram -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ On 10 Oct 1996, Dmitriy Sklyar wrote: >Our system uses a set of aliases for internal users. When the message >comes to the user's system address (like sklydm@ipc.org) it has a + mark >indicating the message addressed personally to that user; but when the >message comes to the alias address (like DmitriySklyar@ipc.org), which is >an alias to the system address, the + mark is not present. Is there any >way to have + mark for both system and alias address? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 04:23:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31367; Sat, 19 Oct 96 04:23:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA03946 for pine-info-out; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 04:20:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA03941 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 04:20:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vEZMY-00038UC; Sat, 19 Oct 96 04:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: Receipt function in Pine? Date: 17 Oct 1996 17:09:22 GMT Message-Id: <545p82$7cf@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: <3266269F.6038@acpub.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <3266269F.6038@acpub.duke.edu>, Namjin Chung writes: > Dear Pine Users: > > Does Pine has a "receipt" function which enables you to check > if your email recipient has received your email? If so, > please tell me how to set up. If not, is there any way to > emulate this? TIA. You want the "Return-Reciept-To:" line in the header of your out-going mails. You can add such lines in the setup configuration (s, c) under "customized-hdrs". I have two such lines: Return-Receipt-To: Reply-To: You can do it! Cheers! Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == PGP ksy: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 06:55:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32320; Sat, 19 Oct 96 06:55:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA12917 for pine-info-out; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 06:53:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA12912 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 06:53:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vEbjA-00038YC; Sat, 19 Oct 96 06:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Slaughter Subject: Re: "Lcc:" and "To:" Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 23:44:34 -0700 Message-Id: References: <53rr6k$h89@news4.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <53rr6k$h89@news4.digex.net> This doesn't work for me. The only thing I can do to prevent the first person on the list from appearing in the "To" field is to go in and edit the field manually. This is a pain. I think it's a bug in Pine. Anyone else have this problem? On 13 Oct 1996, Barbara Conn wrote: > Harry Slaughter (harrys@ng.netgate.net) wrote: > : I've put together a couple distribution lists, and, following the Pine help > : instructions, inserted the distribution list "nick" in the "Lcc" header. > : > : According to the help menu, the "name" of the distribution list should > : appear in the "To:" area (e.g.: "Name.of.list": ;). But what I get > : appearing is the name of the list *plus* the name of the first person on > : the list (e.g.: "Name.of.list"Joe.Smith: ;). > > Hello! > > I've seen that problem as well. I discovered I could avoid it by > being very careful to enter ^r first and then inserting the nickname > on the Lcc: line next--the result is that only the listname appears in the > received mail. > > The problem seemed to occur when I first inserted the nickname in > the To: line and then moved it to the Lcc: line. So when I realize > I've done that, I cancel the message and then carefully insert the > nickname in the Lcc: line, avoiding the To: line altogether. > > Hope this helps! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 07:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32465; Sat, 19 Oct 96 07:18:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA05657 for pine-info-out; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 07:15:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA05652 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 07:15:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vEcBF-00038BC; Sat, 19 Oct 96 07:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andrew Vardy Subject: Re: Pine keeps asking question Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 19:00:40 -0230 Message-Id: References: <53u6vs$98q@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> <199610152148.WAA10005@lie.matstat.unit.no> <199610160042.BAA10126@lie.matstat.unit.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199610160042.BAA10126@lie.matstat.unit.no> On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Orjan Johansen wrote: > In article , > Andrew Vardy wrote: > > > >On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Orjan Johansen wrote: > > > >> You want read-message-folder. > > > >Unfortunately I can't find such an option on the config screen. It is > >nowhere to be found. > > It is near the top. I just checked and it appears to be in 3.91 > which you are using, although that is now an old version. > > Delete the setting and things should hopefully get better.. Yep, I finally found it. Unfortuately by the value it says "Value is fixed". Try to change it and it says "Can't add to sys-admin defined value". From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 08:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00323; Sat, 19 Oct 96 08:38:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA13987 for pine-info-out; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 08:36:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA13982 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 08:36:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vEdQ4-00038BC; Sat, 19 Oct 96 08:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cherkas@olinet.isf.kiev.ua (Dmitry Cherkasov) Subject: Problem with pine3.95 compiling Date: 19 Oct 1996 15:17:10 GMT Message-Id: <54ardm$6kp@Roller.ISF.Kiev.UA> I've tried to build pine3.95 on my FreeBSD 2.1.0. It told me about conflicting types for built-in functions memcmp,memcpu,strcmp,strcpu in /usr/include/string.h, created nothing and stopped. Anybody knows what's on? -- -------------------------------------------------- Regards, D.Cherkasov cherkas@olinet.isf.kiev.ua From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 09:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19777; Sat, 19 Oct 96 09:28:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA07109 for pine-info-out; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 09:26:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA07104 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 09:26:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vEeBy-00038BC; Sat, 19 Oct 96 09:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: swald@cde2s.ssc.wisc.edu (Sandra Wald) Subject: vms pine mail moved to unix Date: 17 Oct 1996 15:33:40 GMT Message-Id: <545jkk$3ike@news.doit.wisc.edu> Does anyone know of a way to move PINE VMS mail to the UNIX system (forward or whatever) so original headers are intact, meaning no forward headers, original message looks the same on Unix Pine mail message, the from and subject being the same on VMS PINE and Unix Pine? -- Sandra J. Wald swald@ssc.wisc.edu (608) 265-4922 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 10:33:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01622; Sat, 19 Oct 96 10:33:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA15567 for pine-info-out; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 10:31:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ballistix.cs.uoregon.edu (ballistix.cs.uoregon.edu [128.223.6.22]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id KAA15562 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 10:31:37 -0700 Received: from cs.uoregon.edu (vitalstatistix.cs.uoregon.edu [128.223.6.19]) by ballistix.cs.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA12216 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 10:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ix.cs.uoregon.edu (ix.cs.uoregon.edu [128.223.6.8]) by cs.uoregon.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA17560 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 10:31:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 10:31:32 -0700 (PDT) From: jdm To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: question (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, couple questions please direct me to info on 'enable background sending' & 'compose send offers first filter' I'd like to set up a file similar to signature, but that does some auto-reply work ... such as "thanks for your message/mail, i'll reply soon" etc. or similar to the 'vacation forwarding' but on a daily basis. I'm guessing the above is a possible choice??? - Julie _________________________________________ juj@cs.uoregon.edu juju@gladstone.uoregon.edu _________________________________________ Pacific Hall Room 107 University of Oregon Home Page: http://www.cs.uoregon.edu/~juj From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 13:14:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03450; Sat, 19 Oct 96 13:14:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA17968 for pine-info-out; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 13:11:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA17963 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 13:11:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vEhfg-00038BC; Sat, 19 Oct 96 13:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: auto reply to certain mails Date: 19 Oct 1996 16:53:09 GMT Message-Id: <54b11l$s57@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: Un jour, Dinesh Wadhwani [Oper. Mgmt Sci] (wadhwani@msi.umn.edu) affirmait publiquement que: | Is there some way in pine to automatically bounce the mail back to the | sender (only specific sender/s) OR send an automatic reply to a specific | sender (like the vacation program ) Not in PINE... but read manpages of "filter" or "procmail". HTH.. (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ Les femmes sont faites pour être mariées et les hommes pour être célibataires. C'est là que vient tout le mal. -- S. Guitry From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 13:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03697; Sat, 19 Oct 96 13:44:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA10882 for pine-info-out; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 13:41:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA10877 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 13:41:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vEiCV-00038BC; Sat, 19 Oct 96 13:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Daniel Cave" Subject: V3.94 --> 3.95 Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 20:26:19 GMT Message-Id: <01bbbdfb$de6f55e0$aef6989e@denifs.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have noticed some problems with 3.95 when upgrading from 3.94, Sometimes pine comes up with Access Error, closing mail box.. and Error reading mail box, closing. Does anyone get this on the Solaris 2.5 binary/platform or on any other OS? Dan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 15:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04337; Sat, 19 Oct 96 15:08:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA19249 for pine-info-out; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 15:06:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA19244 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 15:06:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vEjXH-00038BC; Sat, 19 Oct 96 15:06 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Pawel Misiak Subject: Re: Pine - a Program for Internet News & Email Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:47:28 +0200 Message-Id: <32662AE0.59E2@info.wcss.wroc.pl> References: <326505DF.ABD@info.wcss.wroc.pl> <32654846.794B@audry.gsfc.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ye Hong wrote: > > once again the same question: how can I read the mail of another user in > > the same system? I run the AIX 4.1, and I have three accounts. I would > > like to read mail from all the accounts starting single Pine. > Why don't you add .forward file in your multi-accounts so that all > emails will finally go to only one account? I use few accounts in order to separate email regarding different aspects of my work. E.g. one of my accounts is for administering listservers only, the onother one for all the stuff regarding contacts with my supercomputer users etc. -- Pawel Misiak From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 15:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04585; Sat, 19 Oct 96 15:43:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA12303 for pine-info-out; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 15:41:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA12298 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 15:41:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vEk3u-00038BC; Sat, 19 Oct 96 15:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: question (fwd) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 18:39:21 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 19 Oct 1996, jdm wrote: > please direct me to info on 'enable background sending' & 'compose send > offers first filter' There should be online help screens for these. Have you checked them? > I'd like to set up a file similar to signature, but that does some > auto-reply work ... such as "thanks for your message/mail, i'll reply > soon" etc. or similar to the 'vacation forwarding' but on a daily basis. > > I'm guessing the above is a possible choice??? No. Pine cannot do this in its current incarnation. You really seem to be folding two things into one -- auto-reply and a variable signature. They are not the same thing at all. Pine cannot do either, but under Un*x and Un*x-like systems, something like procmail can do auto-reply. (You have to be careful setting it up, though.) Variable signature is a whole different kettle of fish. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 16:37:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04970; Sat, 19 Oct 96 16:37:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA20266 for pine-info-out; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 16:35:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA20261 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 16:35:26 -0700 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr42.interl.net [205.244.161.42]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA26116; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 18:33:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA05633; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 18:35:16 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 18:35:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Georgios Dimitoglou Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Need pico only In-Reply-To: <546n2d$b0v@nova.umuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 18 Oct 1996, Georgios Dimitoglou wrote: > Hello, I really like using pico and I want it on my machine; however, due > to the fact that sendmail has been kinda flimsy --but works now- I dont > want to mess with it in any way by installing another mailer...Can I just > install pico? If yes, how? Try ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed/pico-bin.ostype.Z where ostype is linux, solaris, sun, etc. ...or download /pine/pine.tar.gz and only compile pico. Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMmllmSGB07hAGnFhAQHMogQAtDF3RArZAMseMXf53NGL3SnRssKE6BGv C28DT1IR+Lm3cRuGsuw/3IRK0mmmVfAjaTdki7+2eWEWLigZRPfCD/2ipyEffsei GSZjyh+e6uYYRdvUslZ9g4FJ7WWtzGCs45HmNzm9B04RPaTc+v0PS72hUDZ81CpI xuKAromM6p4= =gCXU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, @interl.net, @geocities.com Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 16:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03381; Sat, 19 Oct 96 16:41:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA20342 for pine-info-out; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 16:39:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA20337 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 16:39:45 -0700 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr42.interl.net [205.244.161.42]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA26208; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 18:37:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA05736; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 18:39:36 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 18:39:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Jonathan Berman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help with PICO install: In-Reply-To: <199610180244.LAA04924@pross25.u-aizu.ac.jp> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 18 Oct 1996, Jonathan Berman wrote: > Is it possible for me to get a copy of PICO and install it onto my own > personal account for my personal use (I am referring to copyright concerns). > I am pretty familiar with UNIX and think I can install it with no problems. > I've been searching for a copy of PICO for two days now, if possible can I get > the address where I can FTP it. The pico pre-compiled binaries are at: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed/pico-bin.YOUR-OS.Z ...and the pine/pico/pilot/imapd source is at: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz, pine.tar.Z Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMmlmnyGB07hAGnFhAQEyHwQAy7afmxkha/6QaiJ+yvCgvH3pM1vY9Vim c4gzex4HLNnsadZbbrAyiXmfYCVeAZieHKzkoAGzJyh/aye6HBOnq6Y8Gxg5h3YF OAEvN0+rR/SUpuhln4/qvyYGaCWiab89NMhPt5rUMrbL20LAdu0nB96p+0f7lBjx S4zwWLlNG2A= =/zAJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, @interl.net, @geocities.com Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 17:12:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05443; Sat, 19 Oct 96 17:12:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA20924 for pine-info-out; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 17:10:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sunlight.ccs.yorku.ca (sunlight.ccs.yorku.ca [130.63.236.85]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id RAA20919 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 17:10:33 -0700 Received: from localhost (nmorra@localhost) by sunlight.ccs.yorku.ca (8.7.6/8.6.11) with SMTP id UAA27387 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 20:10:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: sunlight.ccs.yorku.ca: nmorra owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 20:10:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Norman Morra X-Sender: nmorra@sunlight.ccs.yorku.ca To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: re:sent mail Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Pine: Can you tell me how I can send mail that I've already sent to people without giving the original addressees the same message again. Is this possible? Thanks...Norm Norman Morra 3459 Schomberg Ave. Mississauga, ON. Canada L4Y-2P5 nmorra@yorku.ca 905-279-1949 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 18:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06184; Sat, 19 Oct 96 18:32:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA14485 for pine-info-out; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 18:30:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id SAA14480 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 18:30:28 -0700 Received: (from ratqueen@localhost) by granite.sentex.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id VAA15989; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 21:38:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 21:38:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Brigg Emma Subject: Question? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it possible to set Pine up so that wherever I am online (ie. telnet) there is notification of new mail (ie. a beep or a notice flashed on the screen)? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 18:34:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06221; Sat, 19 Oct 96 18:34:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA14512 for pine-info-out; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 18:32:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA14507 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 18:32:39 -0700 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 20 Oct 96 09:30:38 +0800 Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 09:30:37 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Daniel Cave Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: V3.94 --> 3.95 In-Reply-To: <01bbbdfb$de6f55e0$aef6989e@denifs.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 19 Oct 1996, Daniel Cave wrote: > Does anyone get this on the Solaris 2.5 binary/platform or on any other OS? Running 3.95 on Solaris 2.5 and 2.5.1 for 2 months now..... no problems. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 18:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06230; Sat, 19 Oct 96 18:38:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA21979 for pine-info-out; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 18:37:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA21974 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 18:37:06 -0700 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 20 Oct 96 09:35:06 +0800 Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 09:35:05 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Norman Morra Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: re:sent mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 19 Oct 1996, Norman Morra wrote: > Dear Pine: Can you tell me how I can send mail that I've already sent to > people without giving the original addressees the same message again. Is > this possible? Thanks...Norm A similar situation/question was asked recently. I believe it addresses much the same question.... Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 01:15:03 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: ralf disson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: question On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, ralf disson wrote: > how can I send the same message again without rewriting the text after > failing of the transmission because of a wrong address. Two ways have been suggested in the past: 1. Go to the outbox and use the "forward" function. You need to edit appears on the screen to change the appearence so it doesn't look like a forwared message...and then send it. 2. Got to the outbox and save the message to the postponed folder. Then, when you type c, pine will ask if you want to continue postponed message. Say yes, fix the address, and send. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 19:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25861; Sat, 19 Oct 96 19:40:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA15281 for pine-info-out; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 19:38:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA15275 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 19:38:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vEngZ-00038BC; Sat, 19 Oct 96 19:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Anthony Towns Subject: Filtering Newsgroup Postings Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:22:40 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi All, I asked this question (or a similar) a while ago, but got no response. I use pine for reading news, at least at the moment. I also currently sign all my postings. I'd like to be able to automatically stop it from doing this for a couple of groups, either as part of my default filter, or possibly in an external script (such as the sendmail.sh script I currently using for mail). (All I _really_ need is someway to get at the message _with_ its headers, or at least to modify the body knowing which newsgroups it's going to) Has anyone any suggestions about this? I'm running Linux (and hence Unix pine, 3.95), FWIW. Cheers, aj -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: ascii Comment: Key available at http://student.uq.edu.au/~s343676/aj_key.asc iQCVAwUBMmX65uRRvX9xctrtAQFFcAP/SVhCekLWo74H/3LEqoG7ez2rHBKvYpUw NH+KDouY5QD1BgdD7ebZ2P4yUBauSZMvsGSI2gvIKlaoHlqtkrMF0ydSYfiUK99f wVzBjhs+sgorACLNJp4hsMOvoJ6Xjer6DbdIfWOTYKJRgTe1FbD0Br9/+R9nj1ap hnf722fXYtM= =rlbi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Anthony Towns | #include aj@humbug.org.au | PGP Key: 0x7172DAED http://student.uq.edu.au/~s343676 | Life is not a matroid. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 19:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06781; Sat, 19 Oct 96 19:56:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA15467 for pine-info-out; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 19:54:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA15462 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 19:54:37 -0700 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 20 Oct 96 10:52:35 +0800 Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 10:52:35 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Brigg Emma Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Question? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 19 Oct 1996, Brigg Emma wrote: > Is it possible to set Pine up so that wherever I am online (ie. telnet) > there is notification of new mail (ie. a beep or a notice flashed on the > screen)? If you are running a single telnet session to a host and your are not running pine then pine is not running. i.e. it is not capable of telling you that new mail has arrived. If you have a shell account and/or depending on how your are connected there may be ways to accomplish what you seek. However, without telling folks more about your environment it would be difficult to speculate. Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 20:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06855; Sat, 19 Oct 96 20:03:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA15546 for pine-info-out; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 20:02:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA15541 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 20:02:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vEo7k-00038TC; Sat, 19 Oct 96 20:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Randall S. Winchester" Subject: Pine 3.95 core dumping right and left. Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 16:21:54 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Note: Please relpy to me directly also so I do not have to read this intier list for several days. (sorry too much mail). I have 10 ultra-sparcs that are used for remote dialin services. There are upwards of 900 people logged in to these machines during the day. They seem to have a propensity for logging off by shuting down their serial connection. When this happens while in pine it dumps core, usually somewhere in ttyin.c. I saw a couple select() errors and lots of pine-debug? files with this: .... ---- MAIN_MENU_SCREEN ---- about to end_tty_driver Pine Panic: Select error: Invalid argument So after removing 15 gigs of core files (40,000 users) it seemed prudent to turn off deliberate core dumping in pine to try and maintain some free disk space.... I tried to compile without -DDEBUG as that is what your coredump() routine is wrapped in, but pine would then not run when started as "xterm -e pine". The errors flash by too quick to see before the xterm vanishes. Anyhow I changed #ifdef DEBUG to #ifdef DEBUG_CORE around that call to the coredump routine with out any problems. Does "The Team" have any feel on where the "#ifdef DEBUG" is blowing up? Or if there are known problems in ttyin.c? Thanks, Randall From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 21:49:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07847; Sat, 19 Oct 96 21:49:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA16785 for pine-info-out; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 21:42:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA16780 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 21:42:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vEphT-00038VC; Sat, 19 Oct 96 21:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tina Lewis Subject: Re: Pine - a Program for Internet News & Email Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 20:48:51 -0700 Message-Id: <3269A100.19B0@u.washington.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am a student at UW and therefore have a Pine account and access all of my E-Mail through tinalew@u.washington.edu Iv'e noticed that I also have Netscape Mail from the software I obtained through school. Is there a way that I can set up Netscape mail to send pages to my E-Mail account? When I try now I get a message that says "Netscape is unable to lacate the server: pop the server does not have a DNS entry. Check the server name in the loacation {URL} and try again." Do you have any advice for me? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 04:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11093; Sun, 20 Oct 96 04:06:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA28854 for pine-info-out; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 03:58:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA28849 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 03:58:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vEvZh-00038BC; Sun, 20 Oct 96 03:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tramm@jove.acs.unt.edu (Thomas Fritz Ramm) Subject: Print Addressbook ? Date: 16 Oct 1996 18:00:37 GMT Message-Id: <5437s5$6vc@hermes.acs.unt.edu> I am running PC-Pine 3.95 on my home computer (Win95). I can print messages just fine using the normal print command (Y). However, I am unable to print my addressbook. Any suggestions? Is this an isolated problem on my machine or has someone else experienced this. -- Thomas --------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas F Ramm --> tramm@jove.acs.unt.edu --> tramm@stephens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 04:22:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04986; Sun, 20 Oct 96 04:22:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA21560 for pine-info-out; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 04:18:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA21555 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 04:18:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vEvqt-00038BC; Sun, 20 Oct 96 04:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ryan Kolak Subject: Re: Changing From: Field Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 00:11:45 -0500 Message-Id: References: <543kj8$5s1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I tried this. Doesn't work. I am running 3.95 now. and I get the error message that says that I can't change the field. You mentioned that the system admin may have changed this option. well, I am the sys admin of my own machine and would make the change. I could hack the code, but I would have to find time. Anybody know if is possible? Ryan On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Jago wrote: > Go to Setup/Config and select customized-hdrs. Type 'A', then type in the > following: > > From: kolak@uiuc.edu > > That will change your From: field. Of course, your system admin may not > allow this. A good test is to set that field anyway, and if Pine gives > you this error: > > [Not allowed to change header "From"] > > you're pretty much out of luck except to use .forward, though I'm > uncertain if this is what you want to do ultimately if the From: field > fails. Good luck! > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 04:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11033; Sun, 20 Oct 96 04:27:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA29294 for pine-info-out; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 04:23:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA29289 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 04:23:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vEvtj-00038BC; Sun, 20 Oct 96 04:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shekar@gizmo.cs.msstate.edu (Shekar Ramanathan) Subject: Re: Is "Good Times" virus true? Date: 17 Oct 1996 04:39:41 GMT Message-Id: <544dad$s3r@NNTP.MsState.Edu> References: <543uip$l99@mark.ucdavis.edu> <54405q$lb5@ratatosk.uio.no> Kjell Andresen (kjell.andresen@usit.uio.no) wrote: > Good times isn't an ordinary virus that threatens your devices. > It's a damn good networking virus: We don't get rid of it and it fails > to die.. True. Real viruses apart, I guess we now have to contend with "meta-viruses" such as these. Cool, we now have a new buzzword! Shekar -- Pohl's law: Nothing is so good that somebody, somewhere, will not hate it. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 04:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11229; Sun, 20 Oct 96 04:28:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA21633 for pine-info-out; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 04:23:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA21628 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 04:23:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vEvwX-00038TC; Sun, 20 Oct 96 04:21 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine/Imap on trusted HPUX 10.01 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:42:00 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Get a copy of imap-4 from ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.tar.Z and build using the "shp" port instead of "hpp". On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Virtual Joe wrote: > Has anyone successfully compiled the IMAP daemon for a trusted HPUS 10.01 > system yet? I am having the hardest time making this work (my C skills are > mostly non-existent!). > > I tried adding: > #include > #include > to the imapd.c file as well as changing the "getpwnam" and "getpwuid" to > "getprpwnam" and "getprpwuid" repsectively. I also added "-lsec" to the > CFLAGS in the Makefile. These are my errors: > > cc: "imapd.c", line 168: error 1588: "pw_name" undefined. > cc: "imapd.c", line 168: error 1531: Invalid member of struct or union. > *** Error exit code 1 > > Stop. > > This is line 168 (with "getprpwuid" included by me): > > if (!(s = (char *) getlogin ())) s = (getprpwuid (i))->pw_name; > > I changed "pw_name" to "fd_name" but got the same error for "fd_name". > > Does anyone know C well enough to help me with this? I can supply the code > I am using as well as a fresh set, untouched by me, if necessary. > > Also, is there an imap newsgroup? I cannot seem to find one. > > Thank you for any help! I am quite desperate....I will make the code > publicly available when it works so that others will not have to go > through what I am now. Feel free to email me personally if you choose. > Thanks again...laters... > > *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* > *: Joe Ducharme jduche@creighton.edu :* > *: Creighton University Omaha, NE USA 68178 :* > *: < http://www.creighton.edu/~jduche/>> :* > *: "Time flies like an arrow, Fruit flies like a banana." :* > *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* > > > -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 05:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11450; Sun, 20 Oct 96 05:06:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA29676 for pine-info-out; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 05:03:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA29671 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 05:03:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vEwXC-00038BC; Sun, 20 Oct 96 04:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andrew Vardy Subject: Re: Pine keeps asking question Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 20:27:41 -0230 Message-Id: References: <53u6vs$98q@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> <199610152148.WAA10005@lie.matstat.unit.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE In-Reply-To: <199610152148.WAA10005@lie.matstat.unit.no> On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Orjan Johansen wrote: > [Posted and mailed to Andrew Vardy] >=20 > In article , > Chelsea wrote: > >On 14 Oct 1996, Andrew Vardy wrote: > > > >> Every time I press Q to quit Pine, Pine asks me if I want to move all = read > >> messages to another folder. If I don't press N then, it does that, an= d > >> sets all the messages in my inbox as deleted. >=20 > >the option you want is the "auto-move-read-msgs" one in Config. >=20 > Most definitely not, that is the same as always answering Yes. Exactly. I checked in my Setup/config screen in Pine, and the above=20 option was not checked off, so it couldn't be causing any effect. >=20 > You want read-message-folder. >=20 Unfortunately I can't find such an option on the config screen. It is=20 nowhere to be found. Nothing on that screen in fact explains my=20 problem. So I don't know where to look to see what is causing the=20 behaviour. All I know is that all other accounts I've used, Pine has=20 never acted this way. > Greetings, > =D8rjan. >=20 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 07:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12429; Sun, 20 Oct 96 07:22:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA23335 for pine-info-out; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 07:18:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA23330 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 07:18:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vEyhK-00038BC; Sun, 20 Oct 96 07:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: help (fwd) Date: 20 Oct 1996 13:45:23 GMT Message-Id: <54dadj$p77@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > I have a question maybe you can help me with. I'm using Pine3.95, and want > to download a picture someone sent to me. I saved it, went into kermit,and Where did you save it? Did you save it inside Pine (in a folder)? Or did you extract the mail into a file? There is not enough information to address kermit here. What happened and what didn't happen? What error message, if any, did you have? What a connection did you have? What terminal emulation software did you use? > tried to download it, but it did't work. The computer people here cannot > help me. Please write back, thanks, Eta -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == PGP ksy: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 15:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15964; Sun, 20 Oct 96 15:02:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA06234 for pine-info-out; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 14:59:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA06229 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 14:59:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vF5sj-00038BC; Sun, 20 Oct 96 14:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI (Holger Lillqvist) Subject: Re: cut and paste Date: 18 Oct 1996 06:40:43 GMT Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In an earlier article I wrote: : I prefer to use the screen capture function in my terminal program. I : append marked regions one by one to a file in my PC hard-disk, and then : read in that file to the new message. Check your terminal program for : this useful function. Oops. I forgot that in pine, this method works only when the sections to be captured are less than one screenful in extension. This is because in pine, the text does not continuosly flow from top-of-screen into the terminal program's screen memory buffer (or whatever this is called). What if you want to capture more? You can export your files, and scroll them on screen (cat, in unix). Or switch to elm. hl From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 15:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15982; Sun, 20 Oct 96 15:03:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA28332 for pine-info-out; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 14:59:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA28327 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 14:59:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vF5sp-00038TC; Sun, 20 Oct 96 14:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thomas.stock@alcatel.ch (Thomas Stock) Subject: Re: Changing From: Field Date: 18 Oct 1996 07:13:33 GMT Message-Id: <547amt$pke@news.alcatel.ch> References: <543kj8$5s1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII In order to allow changing the From field as described below, you have to modify some include file before compiling pine (it is the OS dependend file for your system). BTW, more detailed information on this issue can be found somewhere in the documentation ;-) In case you cannot find it, drop me an e-mail. Thomas In article , kolak@tri0002.urh.uiuc.edu says... ~ ~I tried this. Doesn't work. I am running 3.95 now. and I get the error ~message that says that I can't change the field. You mentioned that the ~system admin may have changed this option. well, I am the sys admin of my ~own machine and would make the change. I could hack the code, but I would ~have to find time. Anybody know if is possible? ~ ~Ryan ~ ~ ~On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Jago wrote: ~ ~>> Go to Setup/Config and select customized-hdrs. Type 'A', then type in the ~> following: ~> ~> From: kolak@uiuc.edu ~> ~> That will change your From: field. Of course, your system admin may not ~> allow this. A good test is to set that field anyway, and if Pine gives ~> you this error: ~> ~> [Not allowed to change header "From"] ~> ~> you're pretty much out of luck except to use .forward, though I'm ~> uncertain if this is what you want to do ultimately if the From: field ~> fails. Good luck! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 15:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15980; Sun, 20 Oct 96 15:04:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA28372 for pine-info-out; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 15:02:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA28367 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 15:02:20 -0700 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm4-adr56.interl.net [205.244.161.56]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA12500; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 17:00:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA06974; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 17:02:09 -0500 Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 17:02:00 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Ryan Kolak Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Changing From: Field In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Ryan Kolak wrote: > I tried this. Doesn't work. I am running 3.95 now. and I get the error > message that says that I can't change the field. You mentioned that the > system admin may have changed this option. well, I am the sys admin of my > own machine and would make the change. I could hack the code, but I would > have to find time. Anybody know if is possible? cd into pine3.95/pine/osdep/ then edit os-XXX.h where XXX is your os type (ie. I use Linux, so it would be os-lnx.h) and enable ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM. I'm logged in as root on my own system right now, using an e-mail account through my ISP, so here's your proof. Once you recompile, you will be able to add a "From: whoever@wherever.com" to custom headers. Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMmqhJiGB07hAGnFhAQFj+AQA3B4YWOZwYfAfmOKbdUwl2kJ2L4Zg3ZnV GhD7n1yNXXqut+MTboE0XWkWFAf5TsIE/Vz8u3dBeyTBZ4T9nFRHbxAdlj3ENd81 pk7WB3fhoUNEMiR60UbNfvxaQVf7OJswymhR2H8ArKoWmt2S1CUL9eA8hPvmPcub dL7dCdFULgI= =CUvA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, @interl.net, @geocities.com Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 15:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10671; Sun, 20 Oct 96 15:56:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA29001 for pine-info-out; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 15:54:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id PAA28990 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 15:54:23 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA18262; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 15:54:20 -0700 Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 15:54:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Sandra Wald Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: vms pine mail moved to unix In-Reply-To: <545jkk$3ike@news.doit.wisc.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If the VMS system is running an IMAP server, you can install the imapmove/imapcopy program on your Unix system and pull the messages over that way. See ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap-utils.tar.Z -teg On 17 Oct 1996, Sandra Wald wrote: > Does anyone know of a way to move PINE VMS mail to the UNIX system (forward or > whatever) so original headers are intact, meaning no forward headers, original > message looks the same on Unix Pine mail message, the from and subject being the > same on VMS PINE and Unix Pine? > > -- > Sandra J. Wald > swald@ssc.wisc.edu > (608) 265-4922 > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 15:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16371; Sun, 20 Oct 96 15:59:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA06920 for pine-info-out; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 15:57:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id PAA06915 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 15:57:44 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA26196; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 15:57:40 -0700 Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 15:57:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Johnny Wang Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ? on compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII That's the right feature... Check your .pine-debug1 file to verify that Pine is seeing the pine.conf.fixed file. -teg On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Johnny Wang wrote: > > We recently upgraded to Pine 3.95 from 3.93 on SCO 3.2v4.2. > > Before, when we are e-mailing, if we typed in a wrong user name, it would > popped out an error about the username not correct or something like that. > But I just noticed that if I typed in anything that is not in the > addressbooks now, it would append our domain name to the end and attempt > to send it. > > I looked through the tech-notes and found this > "compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs" which looks like what I need to use. > But it was there already in our pine.conf.fixed, but it is not catching > the wrong usernames. > > Am I looking at the correct feature or is there somewhere else that I have > to set to catch the wrong usernames? > > TIA, > > Johnny > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 16:02:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14652; Sun, 20 Oct 96 16:02:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA29062 for pine-info-out; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 16:00:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id QAA29057 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 16:00:09 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA18313; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 16:00:03 -0700 Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 16:00:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Holger Lillqvist Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: cut and paste In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You can also use Pine's PIPE "|" command in conjunction with the "free output" suboption to pass a message to "cat" or whatever. -teg On 18 Oct 1996, Holger Lillqvist wrote: > In an earlier article I wrote: > > : I prefer to use the screen capture function in my terminal program. I > : append marked regions one by one to a file in my PC hard-disk, and then > : read in that file to the new message. Check your terminal program for > : this useful function. > > Oops. I forgot that in pine, this method works only when the sections to > be captured are less than one screenful in extension. This is because in > pine, the text does not continuosly flow from top-of-screen into the > terminal program's screen memory buffer (or whatever this is called). > What if you want to capture more? You can export your files, and scroll > them on screen (cat, in unix). Or switch to elm. > > hl > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 17:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17011; Sun, 20 Oct 96 17:06:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA07675 for pine-info-out; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 17:04:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA07670 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 17:04:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vF7qd-00038BC; Sun, 20 Oct 96 17:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sandra Pratt Subject: unsubscribing newsgroup in pine 3.93 Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 16:01:19 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I subscribed to a newsgroup using pine 3.93. The menu says to use "D" for delete to unsubscribe. When I did that, pine says I have unsubscribed and the newsgroup disappears from my list of newsgroups in pine. When I go away and then come back, the unwanted newsgroup has reappeared with all of its 400+ messages. How can I get that newsgroup to stay unsubsribed? Sandi Sandra Pratt Yelm, WA Due to budgetary constraints, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off. Employees should be prepared to continue to work in the dark with no end in sight until further notice. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 17:22:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17163; Sun, 20 Oct 96 17:22:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA00101 for pine-info-out; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 17:19:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA29996 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 17:19:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vF84g-00038BC; Sun, 20 Oct 96 17:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jie.yuan@uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: .signature file Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 07:46:16 -0500 Message-Id: References: <545n4f$5sg@tzlink.j51.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Go to setup configuration and set it (s, c). Do a "?" if doubt. You are using Pine, aren't you? ... :-) Jie ------------------------ In article <545n4f$5sg@tzlink.j51.com>, paletta@j51.com (Perry Paletta) wrote: > Does this work with pine? I only seem to get it > when I post to newsgroups as shown below. What directory > should it be in? I currenlty have it in my home directory. > > -- > HeadBone website: > > http://www.rcknet.com/headbone --Jie Yuan - Pharmacology & Cell Biophysics - U. Cincinnati -- --POBox 670575, 231 Bethesda Av., Cincinnati, OH 45267-0575 -- --jie.yuan@uc.edu - http://www.uc.edu/~yuanj From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 17:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17149; Sun, 20 Oct 96 17:24:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA00164 for pine-info-out; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 17:22:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from goodguy.goodnet.com (goodnet.com [207.98.129.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id RAA00159 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 17:22:41 -0700 Received: from goodguy (kdh@mail [207.98.129.2]) by goodguy.goodnet.com (8.8.0/8.7.1) with SMTP id RAA04571 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 17:21:56 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 17:21:55 -0700 (MST) From: "Kathleen P. Daily-Herrman" X-Sender: kdh@goodguy To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Puzzled about Pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi... I have a question about the "reply-to" feature in pine. When I opt to include the original message in my e-mail it starts right below the "Message Text" bar. This is very annoying as then I have to manually insert lines so I can type in my reply above the original message. I'm using crosstalk for windows to access the shell. Not running PPP using telnet to access pine. Pretty cut and dried. I'm thinking that there would be some sort of environmental variable I could set in the .pinerc or in the Pine setup/ config that I could modify to address this issue. Thank you all for any assistance in advance. Kathleen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06880; Sun, 20 Oct 96 18:19:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA00854 for pine-info-out; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:16:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from netcom.netcom.com (netcom.netcom.com [192.100.81.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA00849 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:16:28 -0700 Received: from localhost (wolke@localhost) by netcom.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id SAA27849; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:16:27 -0700 Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:16:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Sapphire X-Sender: wolke@netcom To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: support@netcom.com Subject: from 3.91 to 3.95 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I added /usr/local/nuglops/bin/pine and went from 3.91 to 3.95. I changed the inbx-path=~/.mailbox/inbox. However, after logging out and back into Pine, I am back at version 3.91. What else do I need to change to make 3.95 stable. It would be graet if you could issue a step by step guidelines. As it is, the information you put out is often incomplete. Remember, some of us are new to all this.... Thankx Gerlinde From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 20:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19015; Sun, 20 Oct 96 20:53:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA10502 for pine-info-out; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 20:50:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA10497 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 20:50:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFBIz-00038BC; Sun, 20 Oct 96 20:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Plumbum Subject: News with Pine 3.95 on Linux problems Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 14:51:34 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello. I just installed both binary and source distribution of Pine 3.95 on my Linux machine running 1.2.8 and connected to the internet with ethernet. Neither one of them give me news reader option. Is pine for linux not supporting news? I look at the misc. docs and FAQ's but couldn't find an answer. Thanks for your time. -- Pb From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 21:28:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19513; Sun, 20 Oct 96 21:28:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA03209 for pine-info-out; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 21:26:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA03204 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 21:26:41 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 20 OCT 96 21:27:13 Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 21:27:13 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: Mail Delivery Acknowledgments Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Jie Yuan's instructions for delivery receipts works well, inasmuch as they are limited to receipts from the server rather than the addressee. For anyone who's interested in seeing it, here's a copy of the acknowledgment I received: Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 21:11:22 -0700 From: NTMail To: Linda Emerson Subject: Ack: "The NYPD Blue Drinking Game (fwd)" Your message headed: Ack: "The NYPD Blue Drinking Game (fwd)" has been delivered to jriggins@whitworth.edu. This receipt does not guarantee that the mail has been read. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 21:31:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19555; Sun, 20 Oct 96 21:31:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA03285 for pine-info-out; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 21:30:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA03280 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 21:30:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFBvx-00038BC; Sun, 20 Oct 96 21:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: alexlist@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at (Alexander List) Subject: Re: Receipt function in Pine? Date: 21 Oct 1996 03:20:55 GMT Message-Id: <54eq6n$t3l@fstgal00.tu-graz.ac.at> References: <3266269F.6038@acpub.duke.edu> <545p82$7cf@news.ececs.uc.edu> Jie Yuan (yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu) wrote: : > Does Pine has a "receipt" function which enables you to check : > if your email recipient has received your email? If so, : > please tell me how to set up. If not, is there any way to : > emulate this? TIA. : You want the "Return-Reciept-To:" line in the header of your out-going : mails. You can add such lines in the setup configuration (s, c) under : "customized-hdrs". I have two such lines: Well, this does it, but it adds these headers to _every_ message I send. I definitely do not want every message confirmed when read/delivered. *Hint to the authors* It would be an excellent feature if one could toggle this when composing a message! (Pegasus Mail under DOS/Windows does it...) *Hint off* --- Je me revolte, donc nous sommes. - Albert Camus Alexander List http://www.sbox.tu-graz.ac.at/home/alexlist/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 21:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19990; Sun, 20 Oct 96 21:51:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA11435 for pine-info-out; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 21:49:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ratree.psu.ac.th (ratree.psu.ac.th [192.100.77.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id VAA11430 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 21:49:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (kpongsak@localhost) by ratree.psu.ac.th (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA11100 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:50:51 +0700 (GMT+0700) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:50:50 +0700 (GMT+0700) From: Pongsak KANCHANASALATHOOL To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How do i can delete all letter in one touch? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello everybody Sometimes i'm very annoy about junk mail and want to delete them in one step .What's the way? Thank you. Bye, PongSak. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 23:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20797; Sun, 20 Oct 96 23:09:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA04813 for pine-info-out; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 23:06:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.rtt.co.za ([196.13.113.237]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA04802 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 23:06:30 -0700 Received: from rtt.co.za (k200 [196.13.113.238]) by mail.rtt.co.za (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id IAA04418 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 08:06:59 +0200 Received: from localhost (chadleyr@localhost) by rtt.co.za (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA28058 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 08:05:59 +0200 (SAST) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 08:05:58 +0200 (SAST) From: Chad To: PINE-INFO@cac.washington.edu Subject: HELP MENU (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NO REPLY RECEIVED AS YET Regards Chadley RTT NEWCASTLE Chadleyr@RTT.co.za ****MOTIVATION IS THE KEY TO SUCCESS**** ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:11:29 +0200 (SAST) From: Chad To: PINE-INFO@CAC.WASHINGTON.EDU Subject: HELP MENU IS THERE A BOOKLET THAN CAN BE PROVIDED SHOWING HOW TO CHANGE SOME OF THE SETUP FUNCTIONS AND ALSO POINTING OUT THE FINER DETAILS OF FUNCTIONS NOT MENTIONED OR COVERED FULLY IN THE PINE HELP SCREENS YOUR ASSISTANCE WILL BE APPRECIATED Regards Chadley RTT NEWCASTLE Chadleyr@RTT.co.za ****MOTIVATION IS THE KEY TO SUCCESS**** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 23:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20879; Sun, 20 Oct 96 23:12:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA12557 for pine-info-out; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 23:11:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA12552 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 23:11:00 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 21 Oct 96 14:08:58 +0800 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:07:10 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: Sapphire Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, support@netcom.com Subject: Re: from 3.91 to 3.95 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 20 Oct 1996, Sapphire wrote: > I added /usr/local/nuglops/bin/pine and went from 3.91 to 3.95. > I changed the inbx-path=~/.mailbox/inbox. > > However, after logging out and back into Pine, I am back at version 3.91. > What else do I need to change to make 3.95 stable. > > It would be graet if you could issue a step by step guidelines. As it is, > the information you put out is often incomplete. Remember, some of us are > new to all this.... Hummm....information incomplete, huh? You forgot to tell us what platform you are using for running pine. But, that's OK...we figured it out from your headers. Also, who is "you"? I'm sure you are talking about the kind folks at netcom, right? But, read on.... Anyway, from what you have written it sounds as if you have two copies of pine on your system. On is 3.91 and the other is 3.95. Your problem is that when you login an environment variable get set called "PATH". This will tell your shell what directories to look into to find executables. It is searched in consecutive order. So, your system will execute the first instance of pine that it finds. You have several choices. You could rearrange your PATH variable so that the directory /usr/local/nuglops/bin comes first...or nearly first...or you could name pine something like mypine. The chances of finding "mypine" in your path sounds a bit unlikely. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 23:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21293; Sun, 20 Oct 96 23:51:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA05327 for pine-info-out; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 23:46:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA05322 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 23:46:10 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 21 Oct 96 14:44:08 +0800 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:42:20 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Chad Cc: PINE-INFO@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HELP MENU (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, Chad wrote: > NO REPLY RECEIVED AS YET Hint.....on the Internet typing in all upper case is equal to SHOUTING.... Please make use of lower case... Now, to answer your question. Sorry, no booklet is available. > IS THERE A BOOKLET THAN CAN BE PROVIDED SHOWING HOW TO CHANGE SOME OF THE > SETUP FUNCTIONS AND ALSO POINTING OUT THE FINER DETAILS OF FUNCTIONS NOT > MENTIONED OR COVERED FULLY IN THE PINE HELP SCREENS > > YOUR ASSISTANCE WILL BE APPRECIATED You are welcom. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 00:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21640; Mon, 21 Oct 96 00:34:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA05894 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 00:30:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA05889 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 00:30:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFEoV-00038BC; Mon, 21 Oct 96 00:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mitch Eagles Subject: Checking email from another location Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 23:55:46 -0700 Message-Id: <326B1E72.20EF@netins.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have an email address for school, "meagles@graceland.edu" How can I access my email (which is pine) through Netscape? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 01:04:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21750; Mon, 21 Oct 96 01:04:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA14000 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 01:00:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA13995 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 01:00:21 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 21 Oct 96 15:58:21 +0800 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 15:56:31 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: Mitch Eagles Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Checking email from another location In-Reply-To: <326B1E72.20EF@netins.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 20 Oct 1996, Mitch Eagles wrote: > I have an email address for school, "meagles@graceland.edu" How can I > access my email (which is pine) through Netscape? Your email is not "pine". Pine is a User Agent (UA) which helps you to read/compose/etc. your email using a varity of protocols. For accessing your mailbox it either uses the "direct" method or a protocol known as IMAP. (It may also be forced to use POP3....but that's a different matter. :-) ) Netscape has a built in email UA which uses POP3 as the protocol to access your mailbox. So, it *may* be possible for you to use Netscape to access your mailbox from a different location. However, much of that depends on the network layer allowing this and if your service provider supports POP3. Chances are they support POP3. However, the network level may not allow connections from a "different" place. It all depends on what you mean by different place. I'd suggest you check with your service provider as they should be best equiped to answer this question. Certainly they know more about your situation than the 10's of thousands of pine users all over the world. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 01:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22061; Mon, 21 Oct 96 01:45:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA14459 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 01:42:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id BAA14448 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 01:41:56 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 09:36:28 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA04155; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 09:36:08 +0100 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 09:36:07 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Kathleen P. Daily-Herrman" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Puzzled about Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" The general idea is that Pine by default starts your new message _above_ the included text. This is because the "new" text of your reply is (hopefully!) more important than the "old" text of the original message (which the sender already knows about/others have already read). By putting your reply above the included text Pine helps the recipient find and read it easily, without having to first wade through lots of old text. I'm a little confused about what you're actually trying to achieve... Most people encountering this behaviour for the first time ask about getting their new message text put below the included stuff. However you seem to imply that you're happy with having your new message above, but dislike having to "manually insert lines so [you] can type in [your] reply". If you really mean this then you shouldn't be having a problem: as you type and fill up a line Pine will automatically start a new one whenever it is needed. However if you really _are_ asking about how to put your new text beneath the included stuff then go to Pine's Setup Configuration screen and check out the "signature-at-bottom" setting. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sun, 20 Oct 1996, Kathleen P. Daily-Herrman wrote: > > Hi... > > I have a question about the "reply-to" feature in pine. > When I opt to include the original message in my > e-mail it starts right below the "Message Text" bar. > > This is very annoying as then I have to manually insert > lines so I can type in my reply above the original message. > > I'm using crosstalk for windows to access the shell. Not > running PPP using telnet to access pine. Pretty cut and > dried. > > I'm thinking that there would be some sort of environmental > variable I could set in the .pinerc or in the Pine setup/ > config that I could modify to address this issue. > > Thank you all for any assistance in advance. > > Kathleen > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 02:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22457; Mon, 21 Oct 96 02:47:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA15053 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 02:40:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA15048 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 02:40:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFGpb-00038BC; Mon, 21 Oct 96 02:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: James Chamney Subject: POP3 & IMAP - PC Pine 3.95 - Can ANYONE Help??? Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 03:01:54 -0700 Message-Id: <326B4A11.7476@yesic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit RE: PC Pine Version 3.95 Beta July 15, 1996, running under WINDOWS 3.1, on an Intel 486DX33 with 8MB Ram. I have almost completed the installation process, but am not sure if I am on the right track: I am converting from Eudora Light and my Eudora settings are: POP Account: jcham@mail.yesic.com SMTP: mail.yesic.com Return Address: jcham@yesic.com I have used the following Settings in PINE: Userid: jcham Host/Domain: mail.yesic.com SMTP Server: mail.yesic.com INBOX: {mail.yesic.com}INBOX I get the following ERROR message when I open up PINE (I am connected to the Internet when I do this - my Internet Provider has provided me with Trumpet Winsock 2.0 Revision B): "Can't connect to mail.yesic.com,143 Refused 10061" (I should also mention that I am not asked for my Mail Password (and I don't believe I have set a mail password in Pine yet) when this error occurs. When I use Eudora, I AM prompted for my Mail password before I can do any any mail functions.) I took another shot at it & changed my INBOX setting to: {mail.yesic.com/pop3}INBOX as I understand it will use POP instead of IMAP if you specify this. The result is this error message: "invalid remote specification". Any idea where I might have gone wrong? Thank you. James From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 06:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23994; Mon, 21 Oct 96 06:09:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA17361 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 06:00:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from goodguy.goodnet.com (goodnet.com [207.98.129.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id GAA17356 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 06:00:23 -0700 Received: from goodguy (kdh@mail [207.98.129.2]) by goodguy.goodnet.com (8.8.0/8.7.1) with SMTP id FAA21437 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 05:59:20 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 05:59:19 -0700 (MST) From: "Kathleen P. Daily-Herrman" X-Sender: kdh@goodguy To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Puzzled about Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Mike: I went into Setup and Config and found the signature-at-bottom feature and unset it. Worked like a charm. Thank you for your assistance. It's wonderful! Kathleen On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > The general idea is that Pine by default starts your new message _above_ > the included text. This is because the "new" text of your reply is > (hopefully!) more important than the "old" text of the original message > (which the sender already knows about/others have already read). > > By putting your reply above the included text Pine helps the recipient > find and read it easily, without having to first wade through lots of old > text. > > I'm a little confused about what you're actually trying to achieve... > > Most people encountering this behaviour for the first time ask about > getting their new message text put below the included stuff. However you > seem to imply that you're happy with having your new message above, but > dislike having to "manually insert lines so [you] can type in [your] > reply". > > If you really mean this then you shouldn't be having a problem: as you > type and fill up a line Pine will automatically start a new one whenever > it is needed. > > However if you really _are_ asking about how to put your new text beneath > the included stuff then go to Pine's Setup Configuration screen and check > out the "signature-at-bottom" setting. > > Cheers, > > -- > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > On Sun, 20 Oct 1996, Kathleen P. Daily-Herrman wrote: > > > > > Hi... > > > > I have a question about the "reply-to" feature in pine. > > When I opt to include the original message in my > > e-mail it starts right below the "Message Text" bar. > > > > This is very annoying as then I have to manually insert > > lines so I can type in my reply above the original message. > > > > I'm using crosstalk for windows to access the shell. Not > > running PPP using telnet to access pine. Pretty cut and > > dried. > > > > I'm thinking that there would be some sort of environmental > > variable I could set in the .pinerc or in the Pine setup/ > > config that I could modify to address this issue. > > > > Thank you all for any assistance in advance. > > > > Kathleen > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 07:33:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24982; Mon, 21 Oct 96 07:33:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA18495 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 07:26:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA18490 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 07:26:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFLH9-00038BC; Mon, 21 Oct 96 07:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian S Speirs Subject: ?: Kill file for PINE 3.95 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 09:58:08 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am using PINE 3.95 on a university system (unix-based) for mail and newsgroup reading. I am satisfied with its performance for both functions but would love to have a kill file for some of the trash in the newsgroups I read. Is there a way to create a kill file for PINE and how? I sure appreciate any help. Ian Scott Speirs Man imagines that it is death he fears; ispeirs@polaris.umuc.edu but what he fears is the unforeseen. cirrusly@juno.com -Saint-Exupery http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/4535/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 07:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25045; Mon, 21 Oct 96 07:35:12 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA10775 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 07:26:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA10770 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 07:26:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFLFV-00038UC; Mon, 21 Oct 96 07:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: ?: Kill file for PINE 3.95 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:18:33 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, Ian S Speirs wrote: > I am using PINE 3.95 on a university system (unix-based) for mail and > newsgroup reading. I am satisfied with its performance for both functions > but would love to have a kill file for some of the trash in the > newsgroups I read. > > Is there a way to create a kill file for PINE and how? No. At present, Pine does not support killfiles. I have heard a rumor that some day, in the great somewhen, a future release of Pine may support killfiles, but we'll just have to wait. In the meantime, if you are on a Un*x system that has trn installed, there is a way you can sort of kludge together a killfille mechanism. It ain't pretty, but it sort of works. Email me for details. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access..digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 08:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25713; Mon, 21 Oct 96 08:03:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA18943 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 07:56:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA18938 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 07:56:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFLjT-00038TC; Mon, 21 Oct 96 07:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bashley@ktb.net (Bev) Subject: Re: e-mail addresses. Date: 19 Oct 1996 05:04:16 GMT Message-Id: <549ngg$s0i@dns.ktb.net> References: Jody Rogers (rogerjod@ucs.orst.edu) wrote: | | Hi to you all. I am wondering how I would find out the e-mail addresses | of some of my friends in other states. If someone could explain...please | e-mail me. Thanks a ton! There's some windows software called MFERRET.EXE (can't remember anything else) that asks for a first and last name and uses several search engines to dig out everybody that matches. I *think* you can get it through http://www.stroud.com. Bev bashley@ktb.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% That's my opinion. Ought to be yours. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 08:05:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25768; Mon, 21 Oct 96 08:05:12 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA11223 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 07:56:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA11218 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 07:56:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFLjb-00038UC; Mon, 21 Oct 96 07:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hointa@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: downloading Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 21:57:35 -0700 Message-Id: <32685FBF.30B2@ix.netcom.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jago wrote: > > On 16 Oct 1996, Liz wrote: > > > hi - > > my "local support" has not responded to my query, so i am hoping that > > someone at this address will... > > my university is trying to get us to use pine instead of elm e-mail, but > > we are trying to figure out how to download e-mails remotely (at home) so > > that we can print them out? > > please help!! it is very important that we are able to print our e-mails! > > thank you. > > Go into Setup/Config, and read the online help for download-command and > download-command-prefix. That should tell you everything on how to set > up message downloading. Good luck! > > -- > {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} > { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } > { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } > { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } > { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc.} > { "The way to do is to be." } > {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} if you are using Netscape Mail. Under the mail and news preference, set to your school's mail server. and use print under File to local printing. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 08:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26893; Mon, 21 Oct 96 08:48:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA11999 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 08:36:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA11994 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 08:36:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFMLD-00038TC; Mon, 21 Oct 96 08:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: g053200@tel.gte.com ("Stephen J. Weihman") Subject: Re: Receipt function in Pine? Date: 21 Oct 1996 12:54:17 GMT Message-Id: <54frpp$2nj@news.gte.com> References: <3266269F.6038@acpub.duke.edu> <545p82$7cf@news.ececs.uc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <54eq6n$t3l@fstgal00.tu-graz.ac.at>, alexlist@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at (Alexander List) writes: > Jie Yuan (yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu) wrote: >: You want the "Return-Reciept-To:" line in the header of your out-going >: mails. You can add such lines in the setup configuration (s, c) under >: "customized-hdrs". I have two such lines: > > Well, this does it, but it adds these headers to _every_ message I send. I > definitely do not want every message confirmed when read/delivered. > > It would be an excellent feature if one could toggle this when composing a > message! (Pegasus Mail under DOS/Windows does it...) It's actually there, just not as simple of a toggle. Make sure that in setup/config you have the "Return-Receipt-To" header *without* a pre-filled return address. Then, when you are composing a new message and want a return-receipt, use -R to bring up the rich headers. Simply fill in the mail address you want the receipt sent to in the Return-Receipt-To field. -- Winter is nature's way of saying "Up yours!" -- Stephen J. Weihman -*- GTE Data Services The opinions expressed herein are entirely my own, and are not necessarily those of GTE, which could be a good thing! -- Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change. -- Stephen J. Weihman -*- GTE Data Services The opinions expressed herein are entirely my own, and are not necessarily those of GTE, which could be a good thing! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29559; Mon, 21 Oct 96 10:48:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA15661 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:40:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id KAA15656 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:40:19 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA03443; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:40:11 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:40:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: James Chamney Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: POP3 & IMAP - PC Pine 3.95 - Can ANYONE Help??? In-Reply-To: <326B4A11.7476@yesic.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Alas, PC-Pine does not yet support POP. Perhaps you can persuade yesic.com to run an imapd as well as a pop3d? -teg On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, James Chamney wrote: > RE: PC Pine Version 3.95 Beta July 15, 1996, running under WINDOWS 3.1, > on an Intel 486DX33 with 8MB Ram. > > I have almost completed the installation process, but am not sure if I > am on the right track: > > I am converting from Eudora Light and my Eudora settings are: > POP Account: jcham@mail.yesic.com > SMTP: mail.yesic.com > Return Address: jcham@yesic.com > > I have used the following Settings in PINE: > Userid: jcham > Host/Domain: mail.yesic.com > SMTP Server: mail.yesic.com > INBOX: {mail.yesic.com}INBOX > > I get the following ERROR message when I open up PINE (I am connected to > the Internet when I do this - my Internet Provider has provided me with > Trumpet Winsock 2.0 Revision B): > "Can't connect to mail.yesic.com,143 Refused 10061" > (I should also mention that I am not asked for my Mail Password (and I > don't believe I have set a mail password in Pine yet) when this error > occurs. When I use Eudora, I AM prompted for my Mail password before I > can do any any mail functions.) > > I took another shot at it & changed my INBOX setting > to: {mail.yesic.com/pop3}INBOX > as I understand it will use POP instead of IMAP if you specify this. > The result is this error message: "invalid remote specification". > > Any idea where I might have gone wrong? > > Thank you. > > James > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:45:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32569; Mon, 21 Oct 96 11:45:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA24887 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:36:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA24882 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:36:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFP9T-00038BC; Mon, 21 Oct 96 11:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Centre de Diffusion, Comite" Subject: opening folders Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 12:25:40 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have some troubles to open properly my "folder collection". I can't open the expanded list without opening the "news collection" one at first. Otherwise, the only folder I can access is the INBOX one. The problem is annoying when it's time to work in the folders. That particular problem occured after doing changes by accident in the setup. I hope I am clear enough. Thanks for your help, Jean Theberge ____________________________________________________________________________ Le CENTRE de DIFFUSION de la MAITRISE en ARTS PLASTIQUES de l'UQAM Local JR-930 > mailto:centre.diffusion@uqam.ca < > http://www.er.uqam.ca/nobel/cendif < Tel.: (514) 987-3000, poste 7003 Fax.: (514) 987-6783 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32409; Mon, 21 Oct 96 11:58:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA17609 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:47:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA17591 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:46:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFPIu-00038BC; Mon, 21 Oct 96 11:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: valerie@news.netgate.net (Valerie Lambert) Subject: Pine for NT 4.0? Date: 17 Oct 1996 00:49:39 GMT Message-Id: <543vr3$cui@ss.netgate.net> Hi. NT is listed as one of the ports for Pine. Does that include NT 4.0 or only 3.51? Thanks, --V From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 12:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00432; Mon, 21 Oct 96 12:12:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA25560 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 12:07:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA25547 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 12:07:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFPcm-00038BC; Mon, 21 Oct 96 12:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rameshg@Sun.COM (Ramesh Gunna) Subject: question ? Date: 21 Oct 1996 18:47:03 GMT Message-Id: <54ggf7$fs7@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Hi All, I received a mail with part of the body as APPLICATION/octet-stream; name="good.tar.gz" How do I retrieve the the body part of the mail to be good.tar.gz so that I can uncompress, view the tar contents. Do I need additional tools to do that. Thanks in Advance, Ramesh From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03036; Mon, 21 Oct 96 13:43:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA21079 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:37:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA21072 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:37:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFR1H-00038BC; Mon, 21 Oct 96 13:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lynn Clark Subject: Pine Folder Locks Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:56:17 -0600 Message-Id: <326BB941.2BBA@chs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, we got imap4(beta) and pine 3.95 working the other day. However, we noticed an odd bit of behavior as we were testing it and are wondering if what we were trying to do is beyond what pine/imap are supposed to be able to do. Here's the scenario: If we start pine on one machine, everything is fine. Then, with this instance of pine running, we start pine on another machine as the same user. After a short period of time, the first instance of pine relinquishes the folder lock to the second instance running on the other machine. However, if the second instance on the other machine is shut down, the first instance never gets the folder lock back, so it can no longer process mail unless it, too, is shut down and restarted. In fact, regardless of whether the second instance is shut down or not, the first instance apparently can not recover the folder lock. Our question is, should pine/imap be able to "pass the folder lock" back and forth as we thought, or are we pushing it too far? And, if it should be able to do this, what do we need to change/set in order for it to work? -------------- Lynn Clark lclark@chs.com -------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03610; Mon, 21 Oct 96 14:01:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA28818 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:56:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA28813 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:56:03 -0700 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr21.interl.net [205.244.161.21]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA03369; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 15:54:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA07800; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 15:56:30 -0500 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 15:56:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Plumbum Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: News with Pine 3.95 on Linux problems In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sun, 20 Oct 1996, Plumbum wrote: > I just installed both binary and source distribution of Pine 3.95 > on my Linux machine running 1.2.8 and connected to the internet with > ethernet. Neither one of them give me news reader option. Is pine for linux > not supporting news? I look at the misc. docs and FAQ's but couldn't find > an answer. Thanks for your time. Pine for Linux does support news. Check your pine setup and make sure that you have 'nntp-server' set to whatever machine that the newsgroups are stored on. If they are stored on your ISP's machine, then this will be something like news.yourisp.com (ask them to make sure). If you use INN or something similar to get the news and put it into /usr/spool/news on your machine, then you can set this to your machine's name. If you want to edit your ~/.pinerc directly, this is the option: # NNTP server for posting news. Also sets news-collections for news reading. nntp-server= Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMmvjUiGB07hAGnFhAQFWqQP+P7uQaLRO4rg/BCTlku9BqQTmVEv7jqzy CKd5foSwiX/HDMl69OFneqtbNYMQURyrdRxVBQoP5dHaqOgHF6GkLQSJKgwsAF/T uuva+GsGIP6JwpWqu00/819DIGwbkJRmVQTqKDUuVbK6vga+ifn+uDaBc8PGC7SS 2v3cq5ztb4k= =kL5m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, @interl.net, @geocities.com Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05055; Mon, 21 Oct 96 14:55:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA00502 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:43:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs-mail.bu.edu (ACS-MAIL.BU.EDU [128.197.153.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id OAA00497 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:43:24 -0700 Received: from bu.edu (MED-PHYSIO11.BU.EDU [155.41.110.9]) by acs-mail.bu.edu (8.7.6/BU_Server-1.3) with SMTP id RAA33868; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:19:45 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:19:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Gregor J Jones Reply-To: Gregor J Jones To: Chad Cc: PINE-INFO@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HELP MENU (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, Chad wrote: | IS THERE A BOOKLET THAN CAN BE PROVIDED SHOWING HOW TO CHANGE SOME OF THE | SETUP FUNCTIONS AND ALSO POINTING OUT THE FINER DETAILS OF FUNCTIONS NOT | MENTIONED OR COVERED FULLY IN THE PINE HELP SCREENS Perhaps the Pine Technical Notes might be useful. Pine Information Center: http://www.washington.edu/pine or: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs or define folder-collection: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[] Gregor __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ Gregor J Jones Tel: 617-638-5336 (Lab) Department of Physiology 617-282-4484 (Home) Boston University School of Medicine Fax: 617-638-4273 Boston MA 02118 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 15:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05535; Mon, 21 Oct 96 15:05:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA01043 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 15:02:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sting.ait.ru.acad.bg (sting.ait.ru.acad.bg [194.141.29.193]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id PAA01016 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 15:01:49 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sting.ait.ru.acad.bg (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA09973 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:01:19 +0200 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:01:19 +0200 (EET) From: Iavor Trapkov Reply-To: Iavor Trapkov To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PCPine doesnt send somtimes Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I am using pcpine 3.95 for winsock. It works good, but sometimes when it send message it just sleep. Does someone have the same problems? And where is the problem? -------------------------------------------------------------------- M.Sc. Iavor Trapkov Advanced Information Technologies Dpt. System and LAN Manager The University of Rousse, BULGARIA Iavor.Trapkov@ait.ru.acad.bg BG - 7017, Rousse, 8 Studentska http://sting.ait.ru.acad.bg/~nia tel. (+359 82) 445 07 657 -------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 15:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05702; Mon, 21 Oct 96 15:17:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA01347 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 15:12:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA01342 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 15:12:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFSX1-00038TC; Mon, 21 Oct 96 15:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: changing the inbox interval Date: 21 Oct 1996 20:28:29 GMT Message-Id: <54gmdd$1m8@ultron.rnb.com> Is there a setting to adjust the interval at which pine checks for new mail or is this a compilation option? thanx. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 16:01:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07171; Mon, 21 Oct 96 16:01:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA02636 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 15:56:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca (bock.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.214]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA02629 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 15:56:41 -0700 Received: from maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA) id RAA19268 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:04:12 -0600 Received: from gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.12]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.6/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA48582 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 16:56:39 -0600 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 16:56:39 -0600 (MDT) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: reply-to-all-recipients Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I hate when this happens. I'm pretty sure this question hit the list recently, but if it did the answer didn't stick in my brain... I checked Pine/Setup/Config and .pinerc, and don't see where I can turn *off* the 'reply-to-all-recipients' feature in Pine Reply. We've got client who thinks it's an annoyance rather than a feature and wants to know how to turn it off... Ed? You seem to be the help-page guru - any idea where I could look? Much appreciated... Lea ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) http://www.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/tutor/Tutorials.html http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/Wiz/Wizard '...But I didn't mean to be brave; it just sort of happened when I panicked...' -Piglet ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09458; Mon, 21 Oct 96 17:41:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA28070 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:37:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA28065 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:37:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFUq2-00038BC; Mon, 21 Oct 96 17:36 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine Folder Locks Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:28:33 -0700 Message-Id: References: <326BB941.2BBA@chs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <326BB941.2BBA@chs.com> The brief answer to your question is "No". You misunderstand the purpose of the lock. It isn't just a "permission to write this folder" lock. It is also a "I know where all the messages are located in the folder, I know the sizes of all messages, and nobody else may change things" lock. Once this lock is lost, it can not be regained. The only way is to reparse the entire folder, which is done by closing the folder in Pine (quitting in the case of INBOX) and opening it again. This is because of the way that UNIX mbox format works. The act of changing flags (not to mention assigning UIDs) changes the size of a message. In certain other formats, e.g. tenex, it is possible to change flags in place without changing the sizes of messages. These formats permit multiple simultaneous read/write access, and only forbid expunge when someone else has it open too. On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, Lynn Clark wrote: > Well, we got imap4(beta) and pine 3.95 working the other day. However, > we noticed an odd bit of behavior as we were testing it and are > wondering if what we were trying to do is beyond what pine/imap are > supposed to be able to do. Here's the scenario: > > If we start pine on one machine, everything is fine. Then, with this > instance of pine running, we start pine on another machine as the same > user. After a short period of time, the first instance of pine > relinquishes the folder lock to the second instance running on the other > machine. However, if the second instance on the other machine is shut > down, the first instance never gets the folder lock back, so it can no > longer process mail unless it, too, is shut down and restarted. In > fact, regardless of whether the second instance is shut down or not, the > first instance apparently can not recover the folder lock. > > Our question is, should pine/imap be able to "pass the folder lock" back > and forth as we thought, or are we pushing it too far? And, if it > should be able to do this, what do we need to change/set in order for it > to work? > -------------- > Lynn Clark > lclark@chs.com > -------------- > > -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09699; Mon, 21 Oct 96 17:56:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA05601 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:52:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA05596 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:52:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFV4S-00038BC; Mon, 21 Oct 96 17:51 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Changing From: Field Date: 21 Oct 1996 12:24:56 GMT Message-Id: <54fq2o$c3i@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: jasoneng@interl.net (Jason Englander) writes: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Ryan Kolak wrote: >> I tried this. Doesn't work. I am running 3.95 now. and I get the error >> message that says that I can't change the field. You mentioned that the >> system admin may have changed this option. well, I am the sys admin of my >> own machine and would make the change. I could hack the code, but I would >> have to find time. Anybody know if is possible? Which field are you trying to change the name of? I have set the following in pine.conf: # user-domain specifies the domain part of your return address on outgoing # email and is also used as the default domain for email composed to a # local user. If unset, Unix Pine will obtain the domain from the system. user-domain=gmi.edu This makes all outgoing mail for users on my site put "username@gmi.edu". I have been trying for years to get all users to quit using the explicit name of the main mail host and to tell people their addresses are user@gmi.edu and pine's config here is a big help. If the sysadmin wants to freeze this, create a pine.conf.fixed I believe. >cd into pine3.95/pine/osdep/ then edit os-XXX.h where XXX is your os type >(ie. I use Linux, so it would be os-lnx.h) and enable ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM. Both of the previous 2 posters were simply wishing to change the domain part of their address to match an MX record for the domain rather than a host. I am not sure the advice given by Jason addresses the issue. Both of them have the right name, but the wrong domain. >I'm logged in as root on my own system right now, using an e-mail account >through my ISP, so here's your proof. Once you recompile, you will be able >to add a "From: whoever@wherever.com" to custom headers. > Jason >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: 2.6.2 >Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. >iQCVAwUBMmqhJiGB07hAGnFhAQFj+AQA3B4YWOZwYfAfmOKbdUwl2kJ2L4Zg3ZnV >GhD7n1yNXXqut+MTboE0XWkWFAf5TsIE/Vz8u3dBeyTBZ4T9nFRHbxAdlj3ENd81 >pk7WB3fhoUNEMiR60UbNfvxaQVf7OJswymhR2H8ArKoWmt2S1CUL9eA8hPvmPcub >dL7dCdFULgI= >=CUvA >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >-- >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, @interl.net, @geocities.com >Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ >Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ >PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10078; Mon, 21 Oct 96 18:37:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA29003 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:34:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA28998 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:34:23 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 22 Oct 96 09:32:23 +0800 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:30:33 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Lea Cc: Pine Information List Subject: Re: reply-to-all-recipients In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, Lea wrote: > I hate when this happens. I'm pretty sure this question hit > the list recently, but if it did the answer didn't stick in > my brain... Good news....as far as I can tell this hasn't been asked recently. > I checked Pine/Setup/Config and .pinerc, and don't see where > I can turn *off* the 'reply-to-all-recipients' feature in > Pine Reply. We've got client who thinks it's an annoyance > rather than a feature and wants to know how to turn it > off... > Ed? You seem to be the help-page guru - any idea where I > could look? That is not a configurable option at the current level of pine. Question, what does you client want? a. Never to be asked, but include *all* in replies? b. Never to be asked, but *not* include *all* in replies? Just curious.... Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09863; Mon, 21 Oct 96 18:41:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA29071 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:37:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA29066 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:37:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFVl4-00038BC; Mon, 21 Oct 96 18:35 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hrishikesh Dixit Subject: Re: question ? Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 16:18:54 -0500 Message-Id: <326BE8BE.3868@sugar-land.wireline.slb.com> References: <54ggf7$fs7@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When the message is displayed, press 'V' to view the attachment index. One of the items in the index will be ' APPLICATION/octet-stream; name="good.tar.gz" '. Press 'S' to save it to a file, and give the file a name like .tar.gz. You can then process the file to gunzip, untar, etc... Cheers. ..Hrishi Ramesh Gunna wrote: > > Hi All, > > I received a mail with part of the body as > > APPLICATION/octet-stream; name="good.tar.gz" > > How do I retrieve the the body part of the mail to be good.tar.gz so that > I can uncompress, view the tar contents. > > Do I need additional tools to do that. > > Thanks in Advance, > Ramesh -- --- ------------------------------------------------------------- Hrishikesh Dixit Software Engineer, Interpretation Engineering Schlumberger E-mail : hrishi@slb.com Houston Product Center Ph (home): 713 240 8751 110 Schlumberger Drive Ph (work): 713 275 4065 Sugar Land, TX 77478 Fax : 713 275 4344 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10271; Mon, 21 Oct 96 19:12:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA06831 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:08:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA06826; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:08:44 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 22 Oct 96 10:06:45 +0800 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:04:55 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: Pine Developers Cc: Pine Info Subject: Bug (ID 7J4DP): Display anomaly... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-126398554-845949895=:21382" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-126398554-845949895=:21382 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Hi, Here's an interesting one that happens once in a while..... The senario goes like this..... 1. I'm reading messages in a folder. 2. I hit tab move to next folder but no mail so I'm prompted about INBOX. 3. I respond "yes". 4. While moving to the INBOX new mail arrives. 5. I see this: + 203 Oct 22 Liwei Feng (2,381) Re[2]: Mail*Hub HScc gateway for Chin 204 Oct 22 Philipp Schaumann (2,138) Re: White Pages features with GDS500 + N 205 Oct 22 Daisuke Mitarai (5,405) If you have spare time around AOEMA m 6. The "beep" hasn't come and pine hasn't informed me of new mail. However, my pointer is at 204 and I hit tab to go to 205. 7. Pine doesn't move to or detect new mail at 205 but cycles through my inbound folder list. When it returns I see this: + 203 Oct 22 Liwei Feng (2,381) Re[2]: Mail*Hub HScc gateway for Chin 204 Oct 22 Philipp Schaumann (2,138) Re: White Pages features with GDS500 N 205 Oct 22 Philipp Schaumann (2,138) Re: White Pages features with GDS500 and my pointer is at 205. 8. When I hit v. See the text from the "real" 205. I'm running pine3.95 on Solaris. It was compiled with the SparcWorks compiler. 9. I must move from the INBOX to another folder and back to "fix" the display. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C ---559023410-126398554-845949895=:21382 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data Pine built Thu Sep 12 11:14:58 GMT 1996 on host: hobbes ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = egreshko, full = Ed Greshko home = /usr1/egreshko home_dir= /usr1/egreshko hostname= hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com localdom= twntpe.cdc.com userdom= NULL maildom= hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com cur_cntxt= [] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}INBOX msgmap: tot=205, cur=205, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Date inbox is mail_stream term type=xterm, ttyname=/dev/pts/5, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Ed Greshko user-id : egreshko smtp-server : calvin.twntpe.cdc.com nntp-server : news.cdc.com inbox-path : {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}INBOX incoming-folders : "pine" {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/pine : "mhforum" {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/mhforum : "mime" {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/info-mime folder-collections : calvin-mail {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/[] news-collections : *{news.cdc.com/nntp}[] default-fcc : outbox default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook feature-list : delete-skips-deleted : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-incoming-folders : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expanded-view-of-folders : signature-at-bottom : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : save-will-advance : include-text-in-reply : auto-zoom-after-select : quell-dead-letter-on-cancel : show-cursor : allow-talk : pass-control-characters-as-is : enable-mouse-in-xterm : enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon : enable-dot-files : enable-flag-screen-implicitly : show-selected-in-boldface : enable-goto-in-file-browser : news-post-without-validation saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : Date addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last character-set : ISO-8859-1 editor : /usr1/egreshko/bin/mkpgp composer-wrap-column : 74 reply-indent-string : > empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients use-only-domain-name : no printer : newone [] /usr1/egreshko/bin/pine.print personal-print-comma : newone [] /usr1/egreshko/bin/pine.print personal-print-categ : 3 standard-printer : lp last-time-prune-ques : 96.10 last-version-used : 3.95 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu suggest-fullname : Pine Developers suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu local-fullname : Local Support local-address : postmaster kblock-passwd-count : 1 alt-addresses : Ed Greshko : Edward M Greshko : Ed Greshko : Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com : egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com : Ed Greshko viewer-overlap : 2 scroll-margin : 0 status-message-delay : 0 mail-check-interval : 150 elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/usr1/egreshko/.pinerc) ======= smtp-server : calvin.twntpe.cdc.com nntp-server : news.cdc.com inbox-path : {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}INBOX incoming-folders : "pine" {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/pine : "mhforum" {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/mhforum : "mime" {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/info-mime folder-collections : calvin-mail {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/[] default-fcc : outbox feature-list : delete-skips-deleted : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-incoming-folders : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expanded-view-of-folders : signature-at-bottom : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : save-will-advance : include-text-in-reply : auto-zoom-after-select : quell-dead-letter-on-cancel : show-cursor : allow-talk : pass-control-characters-as-is : enable-mouse-in-xterm : enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon : enable-dot-files : enable-flag-screen-implicitly : show-selected-in-boldface : enable-goto-in-file-browser : news-post-without-validation sort-key : Date character-set : ISO-8859-1 editor : ~/bin/mkpgp printer : newone [] /usr1/egreshko/bin/pine.print personal-print-comma : newone [] /usr1/egreshko/bin/pine.print personal-print-categ : 3 last-time-prune-ques : 96.10 last-version-used : 3.95 alt-addresses : Ed Greshko : Edward M Greshko : Ed Greshko : Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com : egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com : Ed Greshko ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last composer-wrap-column : 74 reply-indent-string : > empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lp bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu suggest-fullname : Pine Developers suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu local-fullname : Local Support local-address : postmaster kblock-passwd-count : 1 viewer-overlap : 2 scroll-margin : 0 status-message-delay : 0 mail-check-interval : 150 elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== allow-talk no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread auto-zoom-after-select no-auto-unzoom-after-apply no-compose-cut-from-cursor no-compose-maps-delete-key-to-ctrl-d no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-send-offers-first-filter no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-default-in-bug-report no-disable-busy-alarm no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-keymenu no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-disable-signature-edit-cmd no-enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation no-enable-8bit-nntp-posting enable-aggregate-command-set enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-background-sending enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-cruise-mode no-enable-cruise-mode-delete enable-dot-files no-enable-dot-folders enable-flag-cmd enable-flag-screen-implicitly enable-full-header-cmd enable-goto-in-file-browser enable-incoming-folders enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue enable-mouse-in-xterm enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon enable-suspend enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-enable-verbose-smtp-posting expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-distribution-lists expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-fcc-on-bounce no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order pass-control-characters-as-is no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt no-print-includes-from-line no-print-index-enabled no-print-formfeed-between-messages quell-dead-letter-on-cancel no-quell-lock-failure-warnings no-quell-status-message-beeping no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-reply-always-uses-reply-to no-save-aggregates-copy-sequence no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm show-cursor show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-single-column-folder-list no-tab-visits-next-new-message-only no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys no-use-sender-not-x-sender no-use-subshell-for-suspend ========== Latest keystrokes ========== i (0x0069) d (0x0064) v (0x0076) (0x0020) (0x0020) i (0x0069) TAB (0x0009) RETURN (0x000d) v (0x0076) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) i (0x0069) 2 (0x0032) 0 (0x0030) 4 (0x0034) RETURN (0x000d) v (0x0076) r (0x0072) n (0x006e) ? (0x003f) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) e (0x0065) r (0x0072) y (0x0079) RETURN (0x000d) i (0x0069) TAB (0x0009) RETURN (0x000d) x (0x0078) y (0x0079) TAB (0x0009) TAB (0x0009) RETURN (0x000d) v (0x0076) (0x0020) (0x0020) i (0x0069) TAB (0x0009) RETURN (0x000d) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) v (0x0076) i (0x0069) d (0x0064) x (0x0078) y (0x0079) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) v (0x0076) h (0x0068) (0x0020) - (0x002d) r (0x0072) y (0x0079) RETURN (0x000d) h (0x0068) i (0x0069) TAB (0x0009) v (0x0076) (0x0020) h (0x0068) h (0x0068) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) h (0x0068) h (0x0068) TAB (0x0009) RETURN (0x000d) v (0x0076) (0x0020) h (0x0068) h (0x0068) TAB (0x0009) h (0x0068) (0x0020) RETURN (0x000d) TAB (0x0009) TAB (0x0009) u (0x0075) v (0x0076) i (0x0069) v (0x0076) i (0x0069) v (0x0076) i (0x0069) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) v (0x0076) i (0x0069) m (0x006d) i (0x0069) TAB (0x0009) g (0x0067) RETURN (0x000d) g (0x0067) RETURN (0x000d) i (0x0069) m (0x006d) o (0x006f) o (0x006f) b (0x0062) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) RETURN (0x000d) ---559023410-126398554-845949895=:21382-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10504; Mon, 21 Oct 96 19:20:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA06984 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:17:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA06979 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:17:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFWNs-00038BC; Mon, 21 Oct 96 19:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Shivinder Singh Subject: Re: reply-to-all-recipients Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:04:20 -0700 Message-Id: <326C2BA4.58DD@paciolan.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Our newsgroup server has changed its name. I have tried changing it in .pinerc, pine.conf or pine.conf.fixed, it still doesnot work. I get the error message " Can't connect to----,143:Connection refused. But if I type in "export TERM=NNRP.SERVER.COM, and use tin, it works fine. Also, if in just type in tin without exporting term, it automatically connects to the old name NNTP.SERVER.COM. Which makes me believe, that this name was set at the compile time. Should I recompile pine with the new name, and if so, how can I do that, Please write in detail. BTW, we are running 3.90 on AIX 3.2.5 Thanks, email: ssingh@paciolan.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13146; Mon, 21 Oct 96 22:28:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA02651 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:21:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA02646 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:21:26 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 21 OCT 96 22:21:20 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:21:20 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: Printing Manual Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do I print the Pine manual if the print function isn't working from within Procomm Plus? (Normally, to print a msg, I'm required to save the msg to a file, download the file, run the file through an editor & then print.) Merci beaucoup! ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13129; Mon, 21 Oct 96 22:29:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA02699 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:24:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA02694 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:24:52 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 21 OCT 96 22:24:46 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:24:46 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Mitch Eagles Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Checking email from another location In-Reply-To: <326B1E72.20EF@netins.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A word of caution... be very careful as to how the other user is set up in Netscape. I tried to check my mail from a friend's system not knowing that he had configured Netscape to download all msgs to his system, so all of my mail was deleted from the server. We ended up forwarding more than 50 msgs one by one to my mail address. ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California On Sun, 20 Oct 1996, Mitch Eagles wrote: > I have an email address for school, "meagles@graceland.edu" How can I > access my email (which is pine) through Netscape? > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13250; Mon, 21 Oct 96 22:33:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA02738 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:27:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA02733 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:27:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFZIh-00038BC; Mon, 21 Oct 96 22:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Re: How to change From: field? Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:28:06 -0400 Message-Id: References: <543seq$3i0@nntp1.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <543seq$3i0@nntp1.best.com> On 16 Oct 1996, Jesus Aguillon wrote: > I have my own domain name and consequently I have an email address that I > like to use: jra@aguillon.com. I have subscribed to mailing lists using > this email address, so I can only post from there. When I log into a > shell on my ISP and use Pine my From: address is different than that, and > some of the mailing lists will not let me post. Is there a way to tell > Pine that I would like to send from jra@aguillon.com and not the login > that I use to get into my shell account? Go into Setup/Config and select customized-hdrs. Hit 'A' for add, then type in the following: From: jra@aguillon.com Since you have your own domain, this should work for you perfectly. Normally, most system admins don't allow this field to change, which the reason should be pretty obvious. If Pine tells you this: [Not allowed to change header "From"] Then you'll have to change a setting in pine.conf, but I can't remember which one it is. I'm sure the documentation will tell you. Good luck! -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc.} { "The way to do is to be." } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13257; Mon, 21 Oct 96 22:34:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA09799 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:27:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA09793 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:27:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFZIu-00038UC; Mon, 21 Oct 96 22:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Re: downloading Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:30:45 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 16 Oct 1996, Liz wrote: > hi - > my "local support" has not responded to my query, so i am hoping that > someone at this address will... > my university is trying to get us to use pine instead of elm e-mail, but > we are trying to figure out how to download e-mails remotely (at home) so > that we can print them out? > please help!! it is very important that we are able to print our e-mails! > thank you. Go into Setup/Config, and read the online help for download-command and download-command-prefix. That should tell you everything on how to set up message downloading. Good luck! -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc.} { "The way to do is to be." } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13253; Mon, 21 Oct 96 22:36:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA02771 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:28:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA02765 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:28:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFZJ5-00038VC; Mon, 21 Oct 96 22:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Re: Changing From: Field Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:22:58 -0400 Message-Id: References: <543kj8$5s1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <543kj8$5s1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> On 16 Oct 1996, Ryan Kolak wrote: > Hi there... I have a slight problem... actually more of an annoyance. > > Is there any way to change the from field within pine to something else. > I realize why this has been made difficult to change, but here is my situation. > > My host name is tri0002.urh.uiuc.edu. But it isn't mine to keep. It may change > at any given moment. Most likely it won't, but regardless, I use a email > redirector at uiuc.edu that resloves to my email address at my computer. > > Basically, my mail then looks like this: > From: kolak@tri0002.urh.uiuc.edu > Reply-To: kolak@uiuc.edu > > While this works, there are mailers that don't respect the Reply-To field, and > then it is still up to the people to chose to use the reply-to field. > > Any help is appreciated. Go to Setup/Config and select customized-hdrs. Type 'A', then type in the following: From: kolak@uiuc.edu That will change your From: field. Of course, your system admin may not allow this. A good test is to set that field anyway, and if Pine gives you this error: [Not allowed to change header "From"] you're pretty much out of luck except to use .forward, though I'm uncertain if this is what you want to do ultimately if the From: field fails. Good luck! -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc.} { "The way to do is to be." } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14136; Tue, 22 Oct 96 00:02:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA11162 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 23:59:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id XAA11157 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 23:59:02 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbmml27993; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:58:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA04926; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:58:34 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA12617; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:53:14 -0300 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:53:08 +0300 (GMT-3) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-info Cc: shaila@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw, Omar Butaiban Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII subscribe butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14148; Tue, 22 Oct 96 00:03:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA11142 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 23:58:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA11137 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 23:58:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFalP-00038BC; Mon, 21 Oct 96 23:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hanno Kaiser Subject: Help with Pine+Newsgroup Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:50:05 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! As you can see I have some problems with my Pine 3.95 setup. It always sends the name of the newsgroup I'm posting to as the "from" header. How can I put in my name & email instead? No flames please even if this is propably a silly question... Thanks, Hanno From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14147; Tue, 22 Oct 96 00:03:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA11187 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 23:59:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id XAA11182 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 23:59:48 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbmml28107; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:59:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06171; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:04:04 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA12670; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:58:47 -0300 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:58:40 +0300 (GMT-3) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII is pine the bes mail program ? is there aother program better than pine? *********************************************************************** *** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** college of engineering *** ** Computer Engineering *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** Kuwait University *** ** *** ** *********************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:05:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14182; Tue, 22 Oct 96 00:05:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA11180 for pine-info-out; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 23:59:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id XAA11175 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 23:59:26 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbmml28037; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:59:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06696; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:06:29 -0300 Received: by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA12707; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:01:11 -0300 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:01:11 -0300 From: butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (Omar Butaiban (9411/1826)) Message-Id: <9610221201.AA12707@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: is pine the best! is pine the bes mail program ? is there aother program better than pine? is it the best !!!!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14168; Tue, 22 Oct 96 00:09:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA04184 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:05:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id AAA04179 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:05:37 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbmmm28851; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 03:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA25579; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:09:18 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA10020; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:06:51 -0300 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 23:06:44 +0300 (GMT-3) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII is pine the best email program on internet ? what about zmail! mh! and xmh! *********************************************************************** *** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** college of engineering *** ** Computer Engineering *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** Kuwait University *** ** *** ** *********************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14235; Tue, 22 Oct 96 00:15:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA04314 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:13:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA04309 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:13:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFb1J-00038UC; Tue, 22 Oct 96 00:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Christian Damgaard Subject: Multiple adressbooks Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 20:47:20 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it possible to have several adressbooks in PINE? Allow me to elaborate: I happen to know many people in both Greenland and Denmark. Some are students and some are not. As my adressbook has grown, it it has become less well-arranged. I would like to be able to load e.g. four different adressbooks. How do you guys/girls out there manage huge adressbooks? Regards, Hans Christian """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Hans Christian Damgaard E-mail: inortoq@kom.auc.dk http://www.kom.auc.dk/~inortoq student, Aalborg University """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14370; Tue, 22 Oct 96 00:34:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA11687 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:30:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA11680 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:30:46 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 22 Oct 96 15:28:46 +0800 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:26:56 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Omar Butaiban Cc: pine-info Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 22 Oct 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: > is pine the bes mail program ? You need to define "best". What is "best" to me is not likely to be "best" to you. > is there aother program better than pine? You need to define "better". What I would consider "better" is not likely to be "better" for you. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:58:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14521; Tue, 22 Oct 96 00:58:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA12047 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:53:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA12040 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:53:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFbe1-00038BC; Tue, 22 Oct 96 00:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: PINE: Ctrl-S??? Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:12:00 -0400 Message-Id: References: <326AAF4F.63A4@csupomona.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <326AAF4F.63A4@csupomona.edu> On Sun, 20 Oct 1996, Sarah L. Lance wrote: > I have a question regarding a command in PINE. The command is Ctrl-S. > I would sometimes accidentally press it, and then my screen would > freeze. I would lose my entire message. [...] Try pressing Ctrl-Q. I cannot guarantee that that will unfreeze your screen, but it's worth a try. Some systems use the Ctrl-S/Ctrl-Q pair to stop/start communications. Not all do but some do, and that is why Pine itself does not use either of these key-combinations for its own use. Consequently, it sounds as if your problem may actually be outside of Pine. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 01:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14470; Tue, 22 Oct 96 01:01:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA12171 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 01:00:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id BAA12166 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 01:00:01 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbmmp04093; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 03:59:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA25455; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 16:51:03 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA09815; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 16:48:36 -0300 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:48:29 +0300 (GMT-3) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan Reply-To: Omar Butaiban To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII what is tin ? is pine related to tin ? *********************************************************************** *** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** college of engineering *** ** Computer Engineering *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** Kuwait University *** ** *** ** *********************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 01:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00020; Tue, 22 Oct 96 01:06:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA05025 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 01:03:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id BAA05020 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 01:03:38 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbmmq04326; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 04:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA25443; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 16:47:28 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA09742; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 16:40:24 -0300 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:40:17 +0300 (GMT-3) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan Reply-To: Omar Butaiban To: help-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu, pine-info Subject: unix newsgroup Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, i want to be in a unix newsgroup do you know any news group for uninx ,and shell programming for unix newsgroup? *********************************************************************** *** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** college of engineering *** ** Computer Engineering *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** Kuwait University *** ** *** ** *********************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14935; Tue, 22 Oct 96 02:00:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA05739 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 01:58:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA05734 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 01:58:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFccs-00038BC; Tue, 22 Oct 96 01:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Haidinger Walter Subject: No Real Name, To: instead Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:49:19 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello! You probably have already noticed that my real name is missing when I'm posting to newsgroups. Pine puts to: in place of my real name. BTW: I did set my real name in the configs altough this should not be necessary since I'm working on unix (that is AIX 4.1.4). Does anyone know how to fix this problem? Thanks in advance for any replies! Ah, just another one: How do I tell pine insert a Reply-To Header with my name and email address when posting? I added Reply-To to the customized-headers and Reply-To shows up with Rich-Headers as it is supposed to but it is quite annoying to insert my name and email address by hand every time. As above, thanks for any replies. Please mail me a copy if you're going to reply to the newsgroup. I'm not subscribed to comp.mail.pine. More thanks. -Haidinger Walter -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Haidinger Walter Student of Electrical Engineering University of Technology, Vienna, Austria Email: e9225662@stud1.tuwien.ac.at Mail: Brunnerstr. 6, A-3108 St.Poelten, Austria Tel.: +43-2742-257191, local: 02742-257191 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14993; Tue, 22 Oct 96 02:01:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA05749 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 01:59:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA05741 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 01:58:57 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 22 Oct 96 16:56:56 +0800 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 16:55:07 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Omar Butaiban Cc: pine-info Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: > what is tin ? TIN is a newsreader... > is pine related to tin ? No. -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:21:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15170; Tue, 22 Oct 96 02:21:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA13163 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:18:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA13158 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:18:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFcuz-00038BC; Tue, 22 Oct 96 02:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J.Y.E. Tse" Subject: ~/.addressbook.lu Message-Id: Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 21:54:10 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Hi Pine users, I'm on UNIX and in my $HOME directory I have the file "~/.addressbook.lu", which contains just a lot of numbers. Does anyone know what these numbers are for? Can I safely delete this file? Thanks for any help. J.Y.E. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:45:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15695; Tue, 22 Oct 96 02:45:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA13425 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:43:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA13420 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:42:56 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 22 Oct 96 17:40:57 +0800 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 17:39:05 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: Haidinger Walter Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: No Real Name, To: instead In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 22 Oct 1996, Haidinger Walter wrote: > You probably have already noticed that my real name is missing when I'm > posting to newsgroups. Pine puts to: in place of my real name. > BTW: I did set my real name in the configs altough this should not be > necessary since I'm working on unix (that is AIX 4.1.4). Well...not quite true. Everyone in the entire world sees From: Haidinger Walter Please go to the i(ndex) screen and type ?(help). Do a bit of "Information Research" and find the following section: SENDER: The name or email address of the sender. If you are the sender, then the first recipient's name is shown here. In Newsgroups, if you are the sender and there are no email recipients, the newsgroup name will be listed. > Does anyone know how to fix this problem? It is not a "problem"...but you can change the behaviour of pine. Go to m(ain), s(etup), c(onfigure). Find "index-format", type ?(help). Do more "Information Research" and pay special attention to this section... The token FROM is like FROMORTO, except that it always shows the From address, even if it is you. TO always shows the first address from the TO line, or the first newsgroup if there is no To. SENDER can be used to show the Sender of the message, as opposed to what is in the From line. > Thanks in advance for any replies! Oh...I was hoping for a special thank you for typing so much... :-) However, I think I will save this response since this question gets asked/answered over and over and over again. I've done such a nice job of cutting and pasting the help items it seem a waste to not save it.... > > Ah, just another one: > How do I tell pine insert a Reply-To Header with my name and email > address when posting? I added Reply-To to the customized-headers and > Reply-To shows up with Rich-Headers as it is supposed to but it is quite > annoying to insert my name and email address by hand every time. Well....when you add it to the customize headers....put everything there!... Reply-To: Haidinger Walter Or whatever is more appropriate for you situation... > Please mail me a copy if you're going to reply to the newsgroup. > I'm not subscribed to comp.mail.pine. More thanks. OK.....not a problem.... Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:48:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15689; Tue, 22 Oct 96 02:48:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA06283 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:46:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA06278 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:46:08 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 22 Oct 96 17:44:09 +0800 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 17:42:18 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "J.Y.E. Tse" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ~/.addressbook.lu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, J.Y.E. Tse wrote: > Hi Pine users, > I'm on UNIX and in my $HOME directory I have the file > "~/.addressbook.lu", which contains just a lot of numbers. > Does anyone know what these numbers are for? Can I safely delete this > file? > Thanks for any help. You can delete it....but pine will just recreate it. It is a "hash" of the .addressbook file. Pine uses it to speed things up. Its not such a huge file that deleting it will free up so much space. So, just leave it be. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15754; Tue, 22 Oct 96 02:51:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA06261 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:44:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id CAA06256 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:44:25 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:38:04 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA01023; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:43:09 +0100 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:43:09 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: "J.Y.E. Tse" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ~/.addressbook.lu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" The ".addressbook.lu" file is the "quick lookup file" associated with your address book. Assuming you are going to continue using Pine and its addressbook leave this lookup file in place (otherwise Pine will just recreate it next time it is run, slowing you down a little). Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, J.Y.E. Tse wrote: > Hi Pine users, > I'm on UNIX and in my $HOME directory I have the file > "~/.addressbook.lu", which contains just a lot of numbers. > Does anyone know what these numbers are for? Can I safely delete this > file? > Thanks for any help. > > J.Y.E. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15809; Tue, 22 Oct 96 02:58:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA13539 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:54:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id CAA13534 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:54:20 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:47:58 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA04714; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:52:59 +0100 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:52:59 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: Haidinger Walter Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: No Real Name, To: instead In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Tue, 22 Oct 1996, Haidinger Walter wrote: > Hello! > > You probably have already noticed that my real name is missing when I'm > posting to newsgroups. Pine puts to: in place of my real name. > BTW: I did set my real name in the configs altough this should not be > necessary since I'm working on unix (that is AIX 4.1.4). > > Does anyone know how to fix this problem? There is no problem -- only your own Index screen shows this, not messages you send out. This is because Pine is attempting to be very helpful and squeeze the maximum amount of information into a small space. The presence of "To:" in an Index screen entry *implies* that the message was sent out by you. Given that you now know this the rest of the space is used to remind you who/which group the message was sent *to*. This is invaluable when you keep sequences of messages (including your own replies) in folders. > Ah, just another one: > How do I tell pine insert a Reply-To Header with my name and email > address when posting? I added Reply-To to the customized-headers and > Reply-To shows up with Rich-Headers as it is supposed to but it is quite > annoying to insert my name and email address by hand every time. Go back to the Setup Configuration screen and put the cursor back on the customized-headers variable. Typing a "?" will disply the built-in help (see this command in the menu at the bottom of the screen?). Amongst the rest of the help for this variable is this sentence: Each header you specify here must include the header tag (Reply-To:, Approved:, etc.) and may optionally include a value for that header. This implies that you simply need to change the custom header you added from: Reply-to: to: Reply-to: Your Name The custom header will then have its value set to this value by default for every message you send. > Please mail me a copy if you're going to reply to the newsgroup. > I'm not subscribed to comp.mail.pine. More thanks. Perhaps you should consider subscribing? Your first question is asked (and ansered) several times a week :-} In return you may then be able to help others with similar problems. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 03:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15996; Tue, 22 Oct 96 03:18:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA06607 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 03:13:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA06602 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 03:13:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFdnn-00038BC; Tue, 22 Oct 96 03:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: E.Greshko@cdc.com Subject: Re: MIME header info Date: 22 Oct 1996 10:00:10 GMT Message-Id: <54i5va$6te@cdshub.cdc.com> References: <54h9fh$mje@news4.digex.net> In article <54h9fh$mje@news4.digex.net> disc@pi.cst.digex.net (David Casti) wrote: > Hi folks, > > Is there any way to turn off the MIME header info (and helpful, friendly > "this is a mime message") when I'm just sending simple ascii email > messages? In particular, the block -- > > This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, > while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. > Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. 1. Fix your script to be "MIME aware". 2. Don't try to use pine for non MIME messages. If I remember correctly, the RFCs urge implementors of MIME compliant UA to include this indication. Regards, Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 04:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16339; Tue, 22 Oct 96 04:01:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA14145 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 03:53:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gpbkk.th.org ([203.155.63.238]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA14140 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 03:52:35 -0700 Received: from har ([203.155.24.68]) by gpbkk.th.org (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA00749; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 17:56:19 -0700 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:00:20 -0700 (GMT) From: Harish Srinivasan To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help in PC-PINE Message-Id: X-X-Sender: harish@gpnet.gpbkk.th.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ****************************************************** * Harish Srinivasan * * Manager - Information Systems * * G Premjee Ltd. * * 7th Floor,Cathay House, N Sathorn Road * * Bangkok 10500, Thailand * * Tel:(662)6338424 Fax:(662)2366836-8 * * E-Mail :harish@gpnet.gpbkk.th.org * ****************************************************** Hello, Our current Internet/PC-PINE confign: We have an Internet setup with some Personal E-mail Boxes as well as Group E-mail boxes . We have installed PC-PINE 3.94 here, accessing Internet E-Mail thru a Solaris Unix box running IMAP . For Group E-mail boxes , the foll is the confign : 1. HOME=F:\IMAIL ( Default FCC is in Novell F: drive ) For PC-Pine clients, the incoming folder collections include all the group Inboxes . F:\IMAIL dir contains the the folder called "OUTBOX.MTX" contains copy of all outgoing messages . PROBLEM: 1.The folder OUTBOX.MTX on F:\imail seem to be getting corrupted very often . That means, it can be seen/opened as a TXT file under WIndows but cannot be recognised as folder by PC-PINE . The OUTBOX.MTX is made shareable and delete inhibit . But still , the individual messages can be deleted . 2.The Incoming folders need to be made read-only so that nobody (except root) can delete messages . Tried to search Pine-Information but could not get any solutions. Help in any form would be appreciated . Thanks & Regds, Harish PINERC FILE IS BELOW: # Updated by Pine(tm) 3.95, copyright 1989-1996 University of Washington. # # Pine configuration file -- customize as needed. # # This file sets the configuration options used by Pine and PC-Pine. If you # are using Pine on a Unix system, there may be a system-wide configuration # file which sets the defaults for these variables. There are comments in # this file to explain each variable, but if you have questions about # specific settings see the section on configuration options in the Pine # notes. On Unix, run pine -conf to see how system defaults have been set. # For variables that accept multiple values, list elements are separated # by commas. A line beginning with a space or tab is considered to be a # continuation of the previous line. For a variable to be unset its value # must be blank. To set a variable to the empty string its value should # be "". You can override system defaults by setting a variable to the # empty string. Switch variables are set to either "yes" or "no", and # default to "no". # Lines beginning with "#" are comments, and ignored by Pine. ########################### Essential Parameters ########################### # Over-rides your full name from Unix password file. Required for PC-Pine. personal-name=Harish Srinivasan # Your login/e-mail user name user-id=harish # Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail. user-domain=gpnet.gpbkk.th.org # List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail. smtp-server=gpnet.gpbkk.th.org # NNTP server for posting news. Also sets news-collections for news reading. nntp-server= # Path of (local or remote) INBOX, e.g. ={mail.somewhere.edu}inbox # Normal Unix default is the local INBOX (usually /usr/spool/mail/$USER). inbox-path={gpnet.gpbkk.th.org}INBOX ###################### Collections, Folders, and Files ##################### # List of incoming msg folders besides INBOX, e.g. ={host2}inbox, {host3}inbox # Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-host-name}folder-path incoming-folders=PSL {gpnet.gpbkk.th.org/user=psl}mail/psl, GP {gpnet.gpbkk.th.org/user=gp}mail/gp, JFT {gpnet.gpbkk.th.org/user=jft}mail/jft # List of directories where saved-message folders may be. First one is # the default for Saves. Example: Main {host1}mail/[], Desktop mail\[] # Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-hostname}optnl-directory-path[] folder-collections=[] # List, only needed if nntp-server not set, or news is on a different host # than used for NNTP posting. Examples: News *[] or News *{host3/nntp}[] # Syntax: optnl-label *{news-host/protocol}[] news-collections= # List of folder pairs; the first indicates a folder to archive, and the # second indicates the folder read messages in the first should # be moved to. incoming-archive-folders= # List of context and folder pairs, delimited by a space, to be offered for # pruning each month. For example: {host1}mail/[] mumble pruned-folders= # Over-rides default path for sent-mail folder, e.g. =old-mail (using first # folder collection dir) or ={host2}sent-mail or ="" (to suppress saving). # Default: sent-mail (Unix) or SENTMAIL.MTX (PC) in default folder collection. default-fcc=OUTBOX # Over-rides default path for saved-msg folder, e.g. =saved-messages (using first # folder collection dir) or ={host2}saved-mail or ="" (to suppress saving). # Default: saved-messages (Unix) or SAVEMAIL.MTX (PC) in default folder collection. default-saved-msg-folder= # Over-rides default path for postponed messages folder, e.g. =pm (which uses # first folder collection dir) or ={host4}pm (using home dir on host4). # Default: postponed-msgs (Unix) or POSTPOND.MTX (PC) in default fldr coltn. postponed-folder= # If set, specifies where already-read messages will be moved upon quitting. read-message-folder= # Over-rides default path for signature file. Default is ~/.signature signature-file= # List of file or path names for global/shared addressbook(s). # Default: none # Syntax: optnl-label path-name global-address-book="" # List of file or path names for personal addressbook(s). # Default: ~/.addressbook (Unix) or \PINE\ADDRBOOK (PC) # Syntax: optnl-label path-name address-book=\pine\addrbook ############################### Preferences ################################ # List of features; see Pine's Setup/options menu for the current set. # e.g. feature-list= select-without-confirm, signature-at-bottom # Default condition for all of the features is no-. feature-list=compose-maps-delete-key-to-ctrl-d, enable-mail-check-cue, enable-incoming-folders, expanded-view-of-folders # Pine executes these keys upon startup (e.g. to view msg 13: i,j,1,3,CR,v) initial-keystroke-list= # Only show these headers (by default) when composing messages default-composer-hdrs= # Add these customized headers (and possible default values) when composing customized-hdrs=Return-Receipt-To:harish@gpnet.gpbkk.th.org # When viewing messages, include this list of headers viewer-hdrs= # Determines default folder name for Saves... # Choices: default-folder, by-sender, by-from, by-recipient, last-folder-used. # Default: "default-folder", i.e. "saved-messages" (Unix) or "SAVEMAIL" (PC). saved-msg-name-rule= # Determines default name for Fcc... # Choices: default-fcc, by-recipient, last-fcc-used. # Default: "default-fcc" (see also "default-fcc=" variable..) fcc-name-rule= # Sets presentation order of messages in Index. Choices: # subject, from, arrival, date, size. Default: "arrival". sort-key= # Sets presentation order of address book entries. Choices: dont-sort, # fullname-with-lists-last, fullname, nickname-with-lists-last, nickname # Default: "fullname-with-lists-last". addrbook-sort-rule= # Sets the default folder and collectionoffered at the Goto Command's prompt. goto-default-rule= # Reflects capabilities of the display you have. Default: US-ASCII. # Typical alternatives include ISO-8859-x, (x is a number between 1 and 9). character-set= # Specifies the program invoked by ^_ in the Composer, # or the "enable-alternate-editor-implicitly" feature. editor= # Specifies the program invoked by ^T in the Composer. speller= # Specifies the column of the screen where the composer should wrap. composer-wrap-column=74 # Specifies the string to insert when replying to message. reply-indent-string= # Specifies the string to use when sending a message with no to or cc. empty-header-message= # Program to view images (e.g. GIF or TIFF attachments). image-viewer= # If "user-domain" not set, strips hostname in FROM address. (Unix only) use-only-domain-name= ########## Set within or by Pine: No need to edit below this line ########## # Your default printer selection printer= # List of special print commands personal-print-command= # Which category default print command is in personal-print-category= # Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. last-time-prune-questioned=96.10 # Set by Pine; controls display of "new version" message. last-version-used=3.95 # This names the path to an alternative program, and any necessary arguments, # to be used in posting mail messages. Example: # /usr/lib/sendmail -oem -t -oi # or, # /usr/local/bin/sendit.sh # The latter a script found in Pine distribution's contrib/util directory. # NOTE: The program MUST read the message to be posted on standard input, # AND operate in the style of sendmail's "-t" option. sendmail-path= # This names the root of the tree to which the user is restricted when reading # and writing folders and files. For example, on Unix ~/work confines the # user to the subtree beginning with their work subdirectory. # (Note: this alone is not sufficient for preventing access. You will also # need to restrict shell access and so on, see Pine Technical Notes.) # Default: not set (so no restriction) operating-dir= # This variable takes a list of programs that message text is piped into # after MIME decoding, prior to display. display-filters= # This defines a program that message text is piped into before MIME # encoding, prior to sending sending-filters= # A list of alternate addresses the user is known by alt-addresses= # This is a list of formats for address books. Each entry in the list is made # up of space-delimited tokens telling which fields are displayed and in # which order. See help text addressbook-formats=FULLNAME, ADDRESS # This gives a format for displaying the index. It is made # up of space-delimited tokens telling which fields are displayed and in # which order. See help text index-format= # The number of lines of overlap when scrolling through message text viewer-overlap= # Number of lines from top and bottom of screen where single # line scrolling occurs. scroll-margin= # The number of seconds to sleep after writing a status message status-message-delay= # The approximate number of seconds between checks for new mail mail-check-interval=60 # Full path and name of NEWSRC file newsrc-path= # Path and filename of news configation's active file. # The default is typically "/usr/lib/news/active". news-active-file-path= # Directory containing system's news data. # The default is typically "/usr/spool/news" news-spool-directory= # Path and filename of the program used to upload text from your terminal # emulator's into Pine's composer. upload-command= # Text sent to terminal emulator prior to invoking the program defined by # the upload-command variable. # Note: _FILE_ will be replaced with the temporary file used in the upload. upload-command-prefix= # Path and filename of the program used to download text via your terminal # emulator from Pine's export and save commands. download-command= # Text sent to terminal emulator prior to invoking the program defined by # the download-command variable. # Note: _FILE_ will be replaced with the temporary file used in the downlaod. download-command-prefix= # Sets the search path for the mailcap cofiguration file. # NOTE: colon delimited under UNIX, semi-colon delimited under DOS/Windows/OS2. mailcap-search-path= # Sets the search path for the mimetypes cofiguration file. # NOTE: colon delimited under UNIX, semi-colon delimited under DOS/Windows/OS2. mimetype-search-path= # Sets the time in seconds that Pine will attempt to open a network # connection. The default is 30, the minimum is 5, and the maximum is # system defined (typically 75). tcp-open-timeout= # Sets the time in seconds that Pine will attempt to open a UNIX remote # shell connection. The default is 15, min is 5, and max is unlimited. # Zero disables rsh altogether. rsh-open-timeout= # Sets the version number Pine will use as a threshold for offering # its new version message on startup. new-version-threshold= # Extension used for local folder names (".MTX" by default). folder-extension= # Choose: black,blue,green,cyan,red,magenta,yellow,or white (CAPS=BLINKING). normal-foreground-color= normal-background-color= reverse-foreground-color= reverse-background-color= # Name and size of font. font-name=Courier New font-size=9 font-style="" # Name and size of printer font. print-font-name="" print-font-size="" print-font-style="" # Window position in the format: CxR+X+Y # Where C and R are the window size in characters and X and Y are the # screen position of the top left corner of the window. window-position=86x29+0+0td From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 04:39:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15746; Tue, 22 Oct 96 04:39:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA14781 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 04:34:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA14776 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 04:34:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFf2n-00038VC; Tue, 22 Oct 96 04:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: PINE: Ctrl-S??? Date: 21 Oct 1996 12:44:20 GMT Message-Id: <54fr74$crp@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: <326AAF4F.63A4@csupomona.edu> "Sarah L. Lance" writes: >Hi, >I have a question regarding a command in PINE. The command is Ctrl-S. >I would sometimes accidentally press it, and then my screen would >freeze. I would lose my entire message. I get frustrated when that >happens because a 3-page message turns out to be a redo message. If >anyone has any idea of how I can reverse the Ctrl-S command, I would >very much appreciate your response. Thank you. :^) If ^S freezes the screen, a ^Q should unfreeze it. I don't know why you say you are losing things. There is a pine setting "preserve-start-stop-characters" that may need to be changed if you want to disable this. I do not mess with that, so I am not sure what turning it off and on does. It also has to do with how every computer, modem, or other communications device in your connection is set. >Hope to here from you soon. :=) >Always, >Linh -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 04:39:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16667; Tue, 22 Oct 96 04:39:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA07734 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 04:34:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (mail.sni.de [192.109.2.33]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id EAA07723 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 04:34:10 -0700 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA28804 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 12:33:02 +0100 Received: from itsrm1.mow.sni.de (itsrm1 [149.202.148.210]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA14909; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:34:33 +0400 (MDT) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:34:32 +0400 (MOW) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsrm1.mow.sni.de Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Pine Developers Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: Bug (ID 7J4DP): Display anomaly... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 22 Oct 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > Hi, > > Here's an interesting one that happens once in a while..... > The senario goes like this..... > > 1. I'm reading messages in a folder. > > 2. I hit tab move to next folder but no mail so I'm prompted about > INBOX. > > 3. I respond "yes". > > 4. While moving to the INBOX new mail arrives. > > 5. I see this: > > + 203 Oct 22 Liwei Feng (2,381) Re[2]: Mail*Hub HScc gateway for Chin > 204 Oct 22 Philipp Schaumann (2,138) Re: White Pages features with GDS500 > + N 205 Oct 22 Daisuke Mitarai (5,405) If you have spare time around AOEMA m > > 6. The "beep" hasn't come and pine hasn't informed me of new mail. > However, my pointer is at 204 and I hit tab to go to 205. > > 7. Pine doesn't move to or detect new mail at 205 but cycles through > my inbound folder list. When it returns I see this: > > + 203 Oct 22 Liwei Feng (2,381) Re[2]: Mail*Hub HScc gateway for Chin > 204 Oct 22 Philipp Schaumann (2,138) Re: White Pages features with GDS500 > N 205 Oct 22 Philipp Schaumann (2,138) Re: White Pages features with GDS500 > > and my pointer is at 205. > I have seen the same at least once. I cannot recall, what was before, but yes, it happens. > 8. When I hit v. See the text from the "real" 205. > > I'm running pine3.95 on Solaris. It was compiled with the > SparcWorks compiler. > > 9. I must move from the INBOX to another folder and back to "fix" the > display. > I had to quit and start Pine again. It was the only possibility to get display O.K. again. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 04:41:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16695; Tue, 22 Oct 96 04:41:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA07719 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 04:34:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA07714 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 04:33:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFf2g-00038UC; Tue, 22 Oct 96 04:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Pine - a Program for Internet News & Email Date: 21 Oct 1996 12:37:51 GMT Message-Id: <54fqqv$cg9@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: <3269A100.19B0@u.washington.edu> Tina Lewis writes: >I am a student at UW and therefore have a Pine account and access all of >my E-Mail through tinalew@u.washington.edu So far it *might* be a pine question. >Iv'e noticed that I also have Netscape Mail from the software I obtained >through school. Is there a way that I can set up Netscape mail to send >pages to my E-Mail account? All of a sudden it is *not* a pine question. >When I try now I get a message that says "Netscape is unable to lacate >the server: pop the server does not have a DNS entry. Check the server >name in the loacation {URL} and try again." At the risk of starting a war, netscape is worse as a mail reader than pine is as a newsreader. >Do you have any advice for me? My advice would be to keep using pine as your mail reader. It is possible to run netscape and a telnet window with pine in it at the same time. That is what I do from my home PC, a SPARC running Solaris 2.5. If you really want to run netscape as your mail agent you will have to configure it. If they are passing out netscape, they may or may not have a suggested configuration for netscape. Right now it is trying to use the default value of looking for a machine named pop. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 04:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16722; Tue, 22 Oct 96 04:46:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA14774 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 04:34:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA14769 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 04:33:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFf2c-00038BC; Tue, 22 Oct 96 04:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Pine - a Program for Internet News & Email Date: 21 Oct 1996 12:31:33 GMT Message-Id: <54fqf6$c6t@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: <326505DF.ABD@info.wcss.wroc.pl> Paul O Bartlett writes: >On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Pawel Misiak wrote: >> once again the same question: how can I read the mail of another user in >> the same system? I run the AIX 4.1, and I have three accounts. I would >> like to read mail from all the accounts starting single Pine. > I am not familiar with AIX, but assuming it works more or less like >most Unices, probably the simplest thing to do would be to put .forward >files in the home directories of two of the accounts to forward all >mail to the third. Just how such forwarded mails will appear to Pine I >cannot say, as I have never had reason (or opportunity) to try this. >As such, Pine itself cannot wander all over the system reading mail here >and there. If you are using IMAP (which I never have), I thought you could have multiple inboxes, either on different machines, or, I thought, on the same machine with different usernames. You probably will have to authenticate for each different account. >Paul >---------------------------------------------------------- >Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA >Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key >Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18408; Tue, 22 Oct 96 07:40:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA17057 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:36:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA17051 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:36:01 -0700 From: E.Greshko@cdc.com Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 22 Oct 96 22:33:58 +0800 Date: 22 Oct 1996 14:34:40 GMT Subject: Re: mime format To: rameshg@sun.com, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <326cdb5729c8002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> In article <54gnga$h69@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> you wrote: > Hi All, > > How do you convert a mime formatted mail that u received > back to the original format like ascii or binary. Well, I use a User Agent called (oddly enough) "pine". > Are there any tools to do this and where do I get them. You mean UAs other than pine? However, if you use another UA which is not MIME aware, other than doing the "right thing" by switching to a MIME aware UA there are other tools. One is called mupack....but I don't have the location information (sorry). Others may know...or there is always Archie and/or AltaVista. Regards, Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:19:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19637; Tue, 22 Oct 96 08:19:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA10889 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:16:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca (bock.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.214]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA10884 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:16:00 -0700 Received: from maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA) id JAA19641 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:23:34 -0600 Received: from gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.12]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.6/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA29416 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:15:57 -0600 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:15:56 -0600 (MDT) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: reply-to-all-recipients In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 22 Oct 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > That is not a configurable option at the current level of > pine. Thanks, Ed. That's what I needed to know. > b. Never to be asked, but *not* include *all* in replies? Option b, near as I can tell... Lea ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) http://www.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/tutor/Tutorials.html http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/Wiz/Wizard '...But I didn't mean to be brave; it just sort of happened when I panicked...' -Piglet ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:21:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19377; Tue, 22 Oct 96 08:21:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA10950 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:17:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from eagle.lhup.edu (eagle.lhup.edu [151.161.11.18]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA10945 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:17:35 -0700 Received: from localhost by eagle.lhup.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA94740; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 11:10:28 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 11:10:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Fisher To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: "Gerald E. Eisley" , "Gary D. Confer" , "Steven C. Davis" Subject: PINE 3.95/Compose Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Our environment is AIX 4.1.3 with PINE 3.95. Some of our users are reporting garbled screens after they enter the "c" command for compose. It seems the "c" shows up in the upper left-hand side of the screen and the rest of the screen is garbled and they cannot enter their message. It takes a "^C" to get out of it. Thanks in advance for your help. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:51:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21081; Tue, 22 Oct 96 08:51:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA11625 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:39:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from howard.paciolan.com (howard.paciolan.com [165.113.222.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA11617 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:39:02 -0700 Received: by howard.paciolan.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA58069; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:43:52 -0700 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:43:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Shivinder Singh To: Dave Fisher Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, "Gerald E. Eisley" , "Gary D. Confer" , "Steven C. Davis" Subject: Re: PINE 3.95/Compose In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If I may also ask a question, We are running 3.90 version on AIX 3.2.5. Everything has been working good so far, till until Internet provider changed the newsserver name from "nntp.crl.com" to "nnrp.crl.com". Now even after changing the name in .pinerc, I get the error message, Can't connect to nnrp.crl.com,146: connection refused. I have checked putting this name one by one in pine.conf and pine.conf.fixed, but no result. Also, on typing tin, it automatically seems to connect to the old name :nntp.crl.com. BUT, when I specify "export NNTPSERVER=nnrp.crl.com", then it connects fine for tin. I believe, this was configured during compile time. I will appreciate for some ideas, and if you think it does need to be recomplied, how exactly do I do that, because I have never installed pine myself before. Thanks a lot for an early response, **************************************************************************** Shivinder Singh |"Time they say is the cure for all worries Paciolan Systems |and pain, the worry is that, Time is in ssingh@paciolan.com |fact the cause..." /sh/ ***************************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 11:23:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25725; Tue, 22 Oct 96 11:23:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA16522 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 11:19:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA16517 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 11:19:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFlLi-00038BC; Tue, 22 Oct 96 11:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Pollak Subject: ^R characters in incoming mail Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:14:19 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This isn't specifically a Pine problem, but I thought somehow here might know a workaround. When people cut and paste text from Microsoft word into their email program, it's often filled with ^R characters. The weirdest thing about them is that if you forward the message to yourself, they disappear from the composing screen -- but once the message arrives, there they are again. Does anyone know how the senders can avoid sending them, or how us receivers can remove them? They aren't impossible to read around, just a bit annoying. Any and all help appreciated, Michael __________________________________________________________________________ Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 11:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26596; Tue, 22 Oct 96 11:49:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA24201 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 11:44:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA24196 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 11:44:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFln1-00038TC; Tue, 22 Oct 96 11:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: address book synchronization Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 17:55:02 +0100 Message-Id: References: <5419dq$b0i@news.asu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 17 Oct 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > Not yet [can you keep address books synchronized] unless you have the > ability to mount your Unix home directory > as a PC drive (e.g. via NFS or SMB). This implies that Unix pine and PC-Pine will be generous wrt CR/LF and LF in address books. Is that true. Also would it be possible to use the same global addressbook across systems (where they have to share the same .lu file). > But better support for this is planned. Please keep us informed. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 12:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26985; Tue, 22 Oct 96 12:03:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA17876 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 11:59:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA17871 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 11:59:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFm2F-00038BC; Tue, 22 Oct 96 11:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lynn Clark Subject: Re: Pine Folder Locks Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 15:54:21 -0600 Message-Id: References: <326BB960.1170@chs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: David, Thanks for the information about alternate folder formats as a possible solution to a folder lock problem with pine. We'll definitely look into them. Also, my apologies to all for posting my original question 3 (!) times. This was my first posting to the usenet using Netscape's news reader/editor/poster and it obviously did something I didn't expect. ----------------------------------------- Lynn Clark Consumer Health Services 72017.2471@compuserve.com lclark@chs.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 12:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27489; Tue, 22 Oct 96 12:15:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA25030 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 12:12:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA25025 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 12:12:09 -0700 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr22.interl.net [205.244.161.22]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA27678 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:10:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA08717 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:12:54 -0500 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:12:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: pine-info Subject: Re: Pine Folder Locks In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, Mark Crispin wrote: > The only way is to reparse the entire folder, which is done by closing the > folder in Pine (quitting in the case of INBOX) and opening it again. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought you could re-open your INBOX (as of 3.95) by going back to the folder list and selecting it again. It works for me... Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMm0clCGB07hAGnFhAQGAMAQAjGS3E7AwcEjvlFY+emxCyBhqXpTDuvlS 5pAtzbaH5eU4dJQHB1WTAwhgL1uQfAnrP9lyVlTgmPpAfNK8hXIWJwr28Y/pI/ff oI8eymYrSDNKsV+QINoIIhme1k7GeSESEPf7bdrzoWje7+Jo7dDC7T+d7nEvLHId vdUyEKjkOF0= =SpQT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, @interl.net, @geocities.com Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 12:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27731; Tue, 22 Oct 96 12:27:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA25364 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 12:24:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA25355 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 12:24:22 -0700 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr22.interl.net [205.244.161.22]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA27953; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:22:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA08820; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:25:06 -0500 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:24:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: "R. Stewart Ellis" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Changing From: Field In-Reply-To: <54fq2o$c3i@news.eecs.umich.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 21 Oct 1996, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > If the sysadmin wants to freeze this, create a pine.conf.fixed I believe. > > >cd into pine3.95/pine/osdep/ then edit os-XXX.h where XXX is your os type > >(ie. I use Linux, so it would be os-lnx.h) and enable ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM. > > Both of the previous 2 posters were simply wishing to change the domain part > of their address to match an MX record for the domain rather than a host. I > am not sure the advice given by Jason addresses the issue. Both of them > have the right name, but the wrong domain. He asked if he could change the from field. The error message he saw was because pine was compiled in the default way, which is set to NOT allow changing that particular field. So, in order to change the from field, he needs to recompile pine by editing that particular file, and changing that setting. True, custom headers may have been set in pine.conf.fixed as blank, but I highly doubt it, as he is the sysadmin of that system. If he had asked how to change all but the username for _everyone_ on his system, I would've instructed him to modify /etc/sendmail.cf ...or to set the domain name in pine.conf.fixed Neither solution would help him if he were to try to send mail from his root account (or any other), because the From: header would show root@thefakedom.ain Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMm0feSGB07hAGnFhAQEQYAP/SQ9v29hXTVrsKOxrx9vrByZK/hmDMkaA xzItsO3gUYRjp53mtmWUY+MM7HWRl07xduWVn+BDbOXTrOiUgpcIdYSg1hDpssKa D7uULpploy30L5de4/Bi81a+T4of4ZDlmMrZt/MLHDC3uvV1jvticl16q4Yn7ESP xyEgzafgHsc= =DJf5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, @interl.net, @geocities.com Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 12:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28413; Tue, 22 Oct 96 12:53:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA19032 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 12:47:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA19027 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 12:47:44 -0700 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr22.interl.net [205.244.161.22]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA28338 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:45:51 -0500 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA08929 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:48:31 -0500 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:48:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: pine-info Subject: Re: mime format In-Reply-To: <326cdb5729c8002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 22 Oct 1996 E.Greshko@cdc.com wrote: > UA there are other tools. One is called mupack....but I don't > have the location information (sorry). Others may know...or there > is always Archie and/or AltaVista. According to it's readme "the canonical FTP site for this software is" ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/mpack/ Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMm0k8SGB07hAGnFhAQE2OAQAnVId2NhNdp3vAoYs+8vhkBLw+l908Xxr f8UJC145wK8SMTt/WKavu3PTvaBo7JDeyxrB+n44mFFXapCz9ElAdf2Vlv//33m4 bRLoNsTqcnWSdyC8lTC8iDMbUK49NRI8blpBtznzR66agkr6ipp7xQCvywYLE7jr 8YN+Vqw3fKw= =KV/K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, @interl.net, @geocities.com Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 13:08:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28834; Tue, 22 Oct 96 13:08:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA26351 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 13:05:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA26321 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 13:04:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFn04-00038TC; Tue, 22 Oct 96 13:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cje2@york.ac.uk (Chris Elliott) Subject: Pine icon in 3.95 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 96 16:48:49 GMT Message-Id: <54itti$8l3@netty.york.ac.uk> hellO I've seen once or twice my pine icon in win 3.11 remain red even when I've looked at all the new messages. In 3.94 it always went green again I've not yet tracked down all the symptoms, so if anyone can suggest any changes it would be appreciated chris From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 13:22:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29256; Tue, 22 Oct 96 13:22:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA26723 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 13:17:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from evansville.edu (cedar.evansville.edu [192.195.225.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA26716 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 13:17:49 -0700 Received: from localhost by cedar.evansville.edu with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #13) id m0vFnGe-0002fNC; Tue, 22 Oct 96 15:17 CDT Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:17:40 -0500 (CDT) From: "Linda L. Deutsch" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Question Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If I should receive a message that has gone to approximately 100 other people, how can I print a copy of this message without printing the other 99 names? Linda From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30630; Tue, 22 Oct 96 14:18:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA21229 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:15:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA21224 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:15:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFo5Z-00038BC; Tue, 22 Oct 96 14:10 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pwyzlic@pwyz.rhein.de (Peter Wyzlic) Subject: Re: unix newsgroup Date: 22 Oct 1996 19:59:52 +0200 Message-Id: <54j22o$f1@pwyz.rhein.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Omar Butaiban wrote: : Hi, i want to be in a unix newsgroup : do you know any news group for uninx ,and shell programming for : unix newsgroup? Get a "active" or a "newsgroups" file and grep for "unix", "bsd", "sco", "linux" etc. If you are smart you may put all these words in one regular expression ;-). -- ########################################################################### Peter Wyzlic pwyzlic@pwyz.rhein.de ########################################################################### From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00612; Tue, 22 Oct 96 15:49:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA00544 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:45:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA00539 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:45:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFpZB-00038BC; Tue, 22 Oct 96 15:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wkasdo@paramount.nikhefk.nikhef.nl (Willem Kasdorp) Subject: opening folder in current directory? Message-Id: <1996Oct22.095312.17141@paramount.nikhefk.nikhef.nl> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:53:12 GMT I asked this before, but unfortunately got no response. I would like to know how to open a mailfolder in the current directory, ie. something along the lines of 'pine -f mail_from_somebody'. I tried changing the setup to include an extra folder directory like this: folder-collections = mail/[] ./[] I then tried to access the folder with the -c flag: pine -c 2 -f myfolder But this doesn't work. Pine interprets ./[] as my home directory. Anybody? -- thanks, Willem Kasdorp -- drs W-J. Kasdorp e-mail: wkasdo@nikhefk.nikhef.nl NIKHEF Tel. : (+31)-(0)20-5922074 P.O. Box 41882 Fax : (+31)-(0)20-5925155 1009 DB Amsterdam, Netherlands URL : http://www.nikhefk.nikhef.nl/~wkasdo -- drs W-J. Kasdorp e-mail: wkasdo@nikhefk.nikhef.nl NIKHEF Tel. : (+31)-(0)20-5922074 P.O. Box 41882 Fax : (+31)-(0)20-5925155 1009 DB Amsterdam, Netherlands URL : http://www.nikhefk.nikhef.nl/~wkasdo From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 17:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03539; Tue, 22 Oct 96 17:45:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA03551 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 17:43:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rs6000.lewisu.edu (rs6000.lewisu.edu [206.54.234.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA03546 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 17:43:28 -0700 Received: from localhost by rs6000.lewisu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA06545; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 19:44:20 -0500 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 19:44:20 -0500 (CDT) From: kamran sultan To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How to send group mail Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear reader, I am a new pine user and I would like to know how to send one mail message to a group of people at the same time. Please reply if you know how to do this. Thanks Kamran From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04392; Tue, 22 Oct 96 18:32:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA27613 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:30:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA27608 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:30:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFs91-00038BC; Tue, 22 Oct 96 18:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jps@lor.jrent.com (Jim Strother) Subject: Vms Pine Question Date: 22 Oct 96 19:39:55 CDT Message-Id: <1996Oct22.193955@lor> I am currently running vms pine 3.91. Whenever I bring up the folder list, the dates are x'd out. Did I build the software wrong, or is there a way around this? Thanks. Jim Strother From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 20:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05935; Tue, 22 Oct 96 20:20:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA06169 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 20:18:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA06164 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 20:18:37 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 23 Oct 96 11:16:37 +0800 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:14:46 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: kamran sultan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to send group mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 22 Oct 1996, kamran sultan wrote: > I am a new pine user and I would like to know how to send one mail message > to a group of people at the same time. Please reply if you know how to do > this. From the m(ain) menu, type a(ddressbook), ?(help). Do some "Information Research" and find the section on "Distribution Lists". Since your email address contains .edu you may consider reading the help screen as an "education". I suggest you go "wild" and type ?(help) or when necessary ^G. You may even learn some niffty features along the way. :-O :-) Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 20:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05707; Tue, 22 Oct 96 20:20:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA29374 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 20:15:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA29369 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 20:15:40 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 23 Oct 96 11:13:41 +0800 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:11:49 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "Linda L. Deutsch" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 22 Oct 1996, Linda L. Deutsch wrote: > If I should receive a message that has gone to approximately 100 other > people, how can I print a copy of this message without printing the other > 99 names? While viewing the message type v(iew) and then select appropriate "attachment". If there is only the body then there is only one possible selection. You will then see the message only without headers. At that point type y(print). Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 22:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07312; Tue, 22 Oct 96 22:10:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA07701 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 22:04:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id WAA07696 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 22:04:31 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA15803; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 22:04:27 -0700 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 22:04:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Jeffrey Goldberg Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: address book synchronization In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 22 Oct 1996, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > > Not yet [can you keep address books synchronized] unless you have the > > ability to mount your Unix home directory > > as a PC drive (e.g. via NFS or SMB). > > This implies that Unix pine and PC-Pine will be generous wrt > CR/LF and LF in address books. Is that true. Yes. > Also would it be possible to use the same global addressbook across > systems (where they have to share the same .lu file). I believe so. -teg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 23:13:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08019; Tue, 22 Oct 96 23:13:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA08545 for pine-info-out; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 23:06:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA08540 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 23:06:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFwQG-00038BC; Tue, 22 Oct 96 23:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: MIME header info Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:56:36 -0700 Message-Id: References: <54h9fh$mje@news4.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <54h9fh$mje@news4.digex.net> On 22 Oct 1996, David Casti wrote: > Is there any way to turn off the MIME header info (and helpful, friendly > "this is a mime message") when I'm just sending simple ascii email > messages? In particular, the block -- > > This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, > while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. > Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. > The above text is only included in messages that include attachments, in which case you no longer have "simple ASCII email." > -- is choking a script I'm trying to talk with. Any advice would be > appreciated. Do you have control over the script, or would the script maintainer be willing to accept suggestions? If so, reply with a copy and maybe someone can give you some hints to fix it... --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 00:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08611; Wed, 23 Oct 96 00:36:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA03057 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 00:31:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA03052 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 00:31:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFxjs-00038BC; Wed, 23 Oct 96 00:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ez074218@boris.ucdavis.edu (Tyrone Jue) Subject: Is "Irina" virus real? Date: 23 Oct 1996 01:34:28 GMT Message-Id: <54jsn4$ik1@mark.ucdavis.edu> I recently got a email from my Chinese Prof that was forwarded that warns about a emial virus named Irina. Supposedly this virus obliterates yuour hard drive. Can anyone shed any light on this? Is it a hoax or is this real? Thanx for any help. Tyrone From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 00:56:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08711; Wed, 23 Oct 96 00:56:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA09941 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 00:54:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA09936 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 00:54:10 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 23 Oct 96 15:51:07 +0800 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 15:49:16 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Tyrone Jue Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Is "Irina" virus real? In-Reply-To: <54jsn4$ik1@mark.ucdavis.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 23 Oct 1996, Tyrone Jue wrote: > I recently got a email from my Chinese Prof that was forwarded that warns > about a emial virus named Irina. Supposedly this virus obliterates yuour > hard drive. Can anyone shed any light on this? Is it a hoax or is this > real? Thanx for any help. Beeeep! *not a pine question* Isn't there a comp.virus.xxx group for this sort of thing? -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 01:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08667; Wed, 23 Oct 96 01:29:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA10307 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 01:24:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id BAA10302 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 01:24:13 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:18:45 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA21805; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:23:57 +0100 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:23:56 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: kamran sultan Cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: How to send group mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Ed's suggestion (included below) is the best way for sending mail to a group of people you correspond with regularly. However if you were just asking how to send a message to more then one person (and aren't likely to be needing the same distribution list of people regularly in the future) then the answer is much simpler: In the "To:" field put in a list of e-mail addresses with commas in between them. To echo Ed's suggestion about "Information Research", the above is described by putting your cursor on the "To:" field of the message you are sending and typing ^G (Get Help - it's in the Command Menu at the bottom of the screen) to see the information about the "To:" field and e-mail addresses. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 23 Oct 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Tue, 22 Oct 1996, kamran sultan wrote: > > > I am a new pine user and I would like to know how to send one mail message > > to a group of people at the same time. Please reply if you know how to do > > this. > > From the m(ain) menu, type a(ddressbook), ?(help). Do some > "Information Research" and find the section on "Distribution Lists". > > Since your email address contains .edu you may consider reading > the help screen as an "education". I suggest you go "wild" and type > ?(help) or when necessary ^G. You may even learn some niffty features > along the way. :-O :-) > > Ed > > -- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 01:40:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09035; Wed, 23 Oct 96 01:40:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA03870 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 01:36:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA03865 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 01:36:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFymp-00038TC; Wed, 23 Oct 96 01:35 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: V3.94 --> 3.95 Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:28:02 -0400 Message-Id: References: <01bbbdfb$de6f55e0$aef6989e@denifs.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <01bbbdfb$de6f55e0$aef6989e@denifs.demon.co.uk> On Sat, 19 Oct 1996, Daniel Cave wrote: > I have noticed some problems with 3.95 when upgrading from 3.94, > > Sometimes pine comes up with Access Error, closing mail box.. and Error > reading mail box, closing. > > Does anyone get this on the Solaris 2.5 binary/platform or on any other OS? My service provider is running SunOS 4.1.4 and Pine 3.94. The technical staff have deliberately and publicly refused to upgrade Pine to 3.95 on the grounds that it is buggier and worse than 3.94. A supervisor has repeated this on an in-house newsgroup. Unfortunately, they have not said what they consider the unacceptable bugs in 3.95 to be. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 01:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08994; Wed, 23 Oct 96 01:40:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA10470 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 01:36:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA10465 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 01:36:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFymq-00038UC; Wed, 23 Oct 96 01:35 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Sarah L. Lance" Subject: PINE: Ctrl-S??? Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 16:01:43 -0700 Message-Id: <326AAF4F.63A4@csupomona.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have a question regarding a command in PINE. The command is Ctrl-S. I would sometimes accidentally press it, and then my screen would freeze. I would lose my entire message. I get frustrated when that happens because a 3-page message turns out to be a redo message. If anyone has any idea of how I can reverse the Ctrl-S command, I would very much appreciate your response. Thank you. :^) Hope to here from you soon. :=) Always, Linh From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 01:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09053; Wed, 23 Oct 96 01:41:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA03877 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 01:36:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA03872 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 01:36:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFynB-00038VC; Wed, 23 Oct 96 01:36 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Pine - a Program for Internet News & Email Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:32:40 -0400 Message-Id: References: <326505DF.ABD@info.wcss.wroc.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <326505DF.ABD@info.wcss.wroc.pl> On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Pawel Misiak wrote: > once again the same question: how can I read the mail of another user in > the same system? I run the AIX 4.1, and I have three accounts. I would > like to read mail from all the accounts starting single Pine. I am not familiar with AIX, but assuming it works more or less like most Unices, probably the simplest thing to do would be to put .forward files in the home directories of two of the accounts to forward all mail to the third. Just how such forwarded mails will appear to Pine I cannot say, as I have never had reason (or opportunity) to try this. As such, Pine itself cannot wander all over the system reading mail here and there. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 01:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08907; Wed, 23 Oct 96 01:46:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA10463 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 01:36:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA10458 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 01:36:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vFymn-00038BC; Wed, 23 Oct 96 01:35 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: carlh@pipeline.com (Carl Hauss) Subject: print problem Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 20:36:11 GMT Message-Id: <54e2it$o0p@camel0.mindspring.com> I suddenly cannot print an e-mail message from my pine shell account (Y command, Print to Ansi). I was able to print OK, then in the past. I have not made any changes that should change my print configuration. Does anyone have any idea where I might look to trace the problem. Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 03:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31582; Wed, 23 Oct 96 03:44:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA12004 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 03:29:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sting.ait.ru.acad.bg (sting.ait.ru.acad.bg [194.141.29.193]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id DAA11993 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 03:29:42 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sting.ait.ru.acad.bg (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA03044 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:50:35 +0200 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:50:34 +0200 (EET) From: Iavor Trapkov Reply-To: Iavor Trapkov To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: MH folders Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How can I really use my old MH folders?\ All the MH folders are in ~user/Mail. The example is: o A folder name beginning with "#mh/" is an mh format folder. Examples: #mh/mail/sep-1994, {rembrandt.art.nowhere.edu}#mh/mail/sep-1994 I tried to add a new folder : #mh/Mail or #mh/Mail/mail but the result was "can't create mailbox #mh/Mail/mail: mailbox already exist. Another way I tried to define folder collection Mail/mail/[] and it interpreted messages which are in the particular files as folders. Any ideas? -------------------------------------------------------------------- M.Sc. Iavor Trapkov Advanced Information Technologies Dpt. System and LAN Manager The University of Rousse, BULGARIA Iavor.Trapkov@ait.ru.acad.bg BG - 7017, Rousse, 8 Studentska http://sting.ait.ru.acad.bg/~nia tel. (+359 82) 445 07 657 -------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 04:20:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10662; Wed, 23 Oct 96 04:20:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA12441 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 04:01:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA12436 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 04:01:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vG10e-00038BC; Wed, 23 Oct 96 03:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 has trouble creating lock file Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 00:27:26 -0700 Message-Id: References: <54etdr$qo2@news.fsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <54etdr$qo2@news.fsu.edu> On 21 Oct 1996, james hebert wrote: > Jon Morrow (morrow@obgyn.mssm.edu) wrote: > : A simple 'chmod 1777 /var/spool/mail' did the trick. (Evidently, Pine > : 3.91 also couldn't create the lock file, but it didn't bother reporting > : it.) > > Doesn't this mean users can delete each others mail??? No. That's what the 1000 bit (the sticky bit) prevents. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 04:32:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08981; Wed, 23 Oct 96 04:32:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA06347 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 04:26:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA06342 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 04:26:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vG1Q1-00038BC; Wed, 23 Oct 96 04:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steven C King Subject: Re: is pine the best! Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 16:27:51 -0400 Message-Id: References: <9610221201.AA12707@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9610221201.AA12707@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw> On 22 Oct 1996, Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) wrote: > is pine the bes mail program ? > > is there aother program better than pine? > > > > > is it the best !!!!! Well, you can't really get a definite answer. Your question is asking for an opinion, not a fact. In any event, I do find Pine to be the best program to use for e-mail and Usenet. I can read my e-mail, read newsgroup postings, see all my folders listed at once, and shell out to the operating system when necessary - all done with the same program. Pine is quite convenient for me, and it does a good job with Usenet newsgroups (specifying OrderSubj sorting works great IMO). Before I knew about Pine, I used Elm for e-mail and tin for Usenet. Yeah, this is finicky, but I like it when I can do both e-mail and Usenet with the same program. Just opinions..... -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc.} { "The way to do is to be." } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 05:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10122; Wed, 23 Oct 96 05:20:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA06935 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 05:09:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from socks2.raleigh.ibm.com (socks2.raleigh.ibm.com [204.146.167.123]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA06924 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 05:09:09 -0700 Received: from rtpdce01.raleigh.ibm.com by socks2.raleigh.ibm.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/RTP-FW1.0) id AA38404; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 08:05:20 -0400 Received: from rtp-pop2.raleigh.ibm.com (rtp-pop2.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.193.186]) by rtpdce01.raleigh.ibm.com (8.7.3/8.7.3/RTP-ral-1.0) with SMTP id IAA32668 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 08:05:20 -0400 Received: from bemddtr05.ibmus2.ibm.com by rtp-pop2.raleigh.ibm.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/4.03) id AA3553; Wed, 23 Oct 96 08:08:38 -0700 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 08:05:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Shtromas X-Sender: ams@bemddtr05.ibmus2.ibm.com Reply-To: aaron@raleigh.ibm.com To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: automatic mail retrieval from POP server Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i receive my mail on a pop server, and i configured pine to what i understood to be enabled new mail notification (an asterisc in upper left corner?). however, it does not seem to work, i never see new messages in my folders. to get them, i end up having to quit and restart pine. i know that pine periodically connects to the server because when the server goes off line or there's a network glitch pine complains about not being able to connect (i forget the exact message wording). is there something that needs to be enabled or disabled to get this behaviour? or should i complain to the server admins? this are the cuurent feature setting in mine .pinerc: feature-list=auto-open-next-unread, auto-zoom-after-select, auto-unzoom-after-apply, compose-cut-from-cursor, compose-maps-delete-key-to-ctrl-d, compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs, delete-skips-deleted, enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation, enable-8bit-nntp-posting, enable-aggregate-command-set, enable-background-sending, enable-cruise-mode, enable-dot-files, enable-dot-folders, enable-flag-cmd, enable-flag-screen-implicitly, enable-goto-in-file-browser, enable-incoming-folders, enable-jump-shortcut, enable-mail-check-cue, enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon, enable-tab-completion, enable-unix-pipe-cmd, expanded-view-of-addressbooks, expanded-view-of-distribution-lists, expanded-view-of-folders, fcc-on-bounce, include-attachments-in-reply, news-approximates-new-status, news-read-in-newsrc-order, print-formfeed-between-messages, quit-without-confirm, save-will-advance, show-cursor, show-selected-in-boldface, signature-at-bottom, tab-visits-next-new-message-only, use-subshell-for-suspend, print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt, print-includes-from-line tia, -a -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aaron Shtromas (aaron@raleigh.ibm.com) a hired hand @ IBM Tel. 301 803 6298 "Chip-chip-chip... Ja, Pantani is weg..." from BRT broadcast, l'Alpe d'Huez, Tour de France 1995 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 07:42:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13207; Wed, 23 Oct 96 07:42:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA08858 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 07:30:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA08851 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 07:30:16 -0700 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 23 Oct 96 22:28:11 +0800 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 22:28:10 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko Reply-To: Edward M Greshko To: Hans Schleichert Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: No Real Name, To: instead In-Reply-To: <326e293c5f12002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > you post so many replies, do you have a secret source of information? Or > did you print out the whole help file? :-) The "secret"? "Information Research". :-) > As we are talking about replacement of the sender's name by To: > in the index display... How does Pine actually determine > whether I was the sender? For example, I use the same POP3 mail account > but from several different workstations (PCs). AFAIK, the mail headers > differ slightly. Will they still all appear as 'from me?' Remember, it doesn't acutally replace anything. If you were to examine the contents of the "outbox" or whatever the source is you will actually see: From: yourname@foo.bar.com or whatever. It is just how pine is configured to "display" this information. In the default configuration pine with compare the "From:" field in the message with the "From:" field it would have generated. If they match, then the To: field is displayed. Pine will also compare the contents of the list "alt-addresses" in your .pinerc file. Hummmm....doing "Information Research" on that "alt-addresses" field may be of value. Think I'll check it out after I say.... Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 08:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14874; Wed, 23 Oct 96 08:42:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA16845 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 08:37:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA16839 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 08:37:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vG5Ji-00038BC; Wed, 23 Oct 96 08:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roland@spinnaker.rhein.de (Roland Rosenfeld) Subject: MIME-Attaches attached to reply? Date: 23 Oct 1996 15:49:19 +0200 Message-Id: <54l7ov$61c@spinnaker.rhein.de> Hi! Just a simple question: Why does pine 3.95 keep a MIME attach from a mail in the reply I send? Concrete example: I got a mail written with exmh, which uses the MIME multipart feature. Both parts were text/plain and the first part keeps the message, the second one the signature. So long so good. But when I reply to this message the second part isn't quoted or simply ignored, but it is attached to my reply. IMHO this does not make much sense but the risk to overlook this unwanted Attachment is big... Is there any choice to disable this "feature"? Ciao Roland -- * Internet: roland@spinnaker.rhein.de * Fido: 2:2450/42 * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17739; Wed, 23 Oct 96 09:56:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA12322 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:52:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA12317 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:52:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vG6UU-00038UC; Wed, 23 Oct 96 09:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steven C King Subject: Re: No Real Name, To: instead Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 19:05:39 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 22 Oct 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Tue, 22 Oct 1996, Haidinger Walter wrote: > > > You probably have already noticed that my real name is missing when I'm > > posting to newsgroups. Pine puts to: in place of my real name. > > BTW: I did set my real name in the configs altough this should not be > > necessary since I'm working on unix (that is AIX 4.1.4). > > Well...not quite true. Everyone in the entire world sees > > From: Haidinger Walter > > Please go to the i(ndex) screen and type ?(help). Do a bit of > "Information Research" and find the following section: > It is not a "problem"...but you can change the behaviour of pine. [snip] > Go to m(ain), s(etup), c(onfigure). Find "index-format", type > ?(help). Do more "Information Research" and pay special attention to this > section... > > The token FROM is like FROMORTO, except that it always shows the From > address, even if it is you. TO always shows the first address from the > TO line, or the first newsgroup if there is no To. SENDER can be used > to show the Sender of the message, as opposed to what is in the From line. Hey! Thanks a bunch for your reply on comp.mail.pine. I've had the same problem myself, but now you've given me some reading to do so that I can cure this minor dilemma. Thanks again. -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc.} { "The way to do is to be." } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18318; Wed, 23 Oct 96 10:14:12 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA19633 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:08:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA19625 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:08:02 -0700 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 24 Oct 96 01:06:04 +0800 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 01:06:03 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Roland Rosenfeld Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: MIME-Attaches attached to reply? In-Reply-To: <54l7ov$61c@spinnaker.rhein.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 23 Oct 1996, Roland Rosenfeld wrote: > Just a simple question: Why does pine 3.95 keep a MIME attach from a > mail in the reply I send? > > Concrete example: > I got a mail written with exmh, which uses the MIME multipart > feature. Both parts were text/plain and the first part keeps the > message, the second one the signature. So long so good. > But when I reply to this message the second part isn't quoted or > simply ignored, but it is attached to my reply. > > IMHO this does not make much sense but the risk to overlook this > unwanted Attachment is big... Using pine3.95, huh? Did you perform *any* type of "Information Research"? Did you go to m(ain), s(etup), c(onfig)?? Did you look around? Did you find: FEATURE: include-attachments-in-reply This feature controls an aspect of Pine's Reply command. If set, any MIME attachments that were part of the original message will automatically be included in the Reply. Looks like I found it for you.... :-) :-) Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18740; Wed, 23 Oct 96 10:53:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA14012 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:50:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from howard.paciolan.com (howard.paciolan.com [165.113.222.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA14007 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:50:03 -0700 Received: by howard.paciolan.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA55263; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:55:13 -0700 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:55:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Shivinder Singh To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE 3.95/Compose (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I haven't recieved any reply on the following problem, will really appreciate, if someone can put together some ideas. Thanks in advance. **************************************************************************** Shivinder Singh |"Time they say is the cure for all worries Paciolan Systems |and pain, the worry is that, Time is in ssingh@paciolan.com |fact the cause..." /sh/ ***************************************************************************** ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:43:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Shivinder Singh To: Dave Fisher Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, "Gerald E. Eisley" , "Gary D. Confer" , "Steven C. Davis" Subject: Re: PINE 3.95/Compose If I may also ask a question, We are running 3.90 version on AIX 3.2.5. Everything has been working good so far, till until Internet provider changed the newsserver name from "nntp.crl.com" to "nnrp.crl.com". Now even after changing the name in .pinerc, I get the error message, Can't connect to nnrp.crl.com,146: connection refused. I have checked putting this name one by one in pine.conf and pine.conf.fixed, but no result. Also, on typing tin, it automatically seems to connect to the old name :nntp.crl.com. BUT, when I specify "export NNTPSERVER=nnrp.crl.com", then it connects fine for tin. I believe, this was configured during compile time. I will appreciate for some ideas, and if you think it does need to be recomplied, how exactly do I do that, because I have never installed pine myself before. Thanks a lot for an early response, **************************************************************************** Shivinder Singh |"Time they say is the cure for all worries Paciolan Systems |and pain, the worry is that, Time is in ssingh@paciolan.com |fact the cause..." /sh/ ***************************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:50:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21058; Wed, 23 Oct 96 11:50:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA22450 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:42:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id LAA22445 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:42:16 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA28740; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:42:12 -0700 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:42:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Shivinder Singh Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE 3.95/Compose (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You didn't say *where* you had made the name change. I suspect it wasn't to the "nntp-server=" variable. -teg On Wed, 23 Oct 1996, Shivinder Singh wrote: > > I haven't recieved any reply on the following problem, will really > appreciate, if someone can put together some ideas. > > Thanks in advance. > **************************************************************************** > Shivinder Singh |"Time they say is the cure for all worries > Paciolan Systems |and pain, the worry is that, Time is in > ssingh@paciolan.com |fact the cause..." /sh/ > ***************************************************************************** > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:43:51 -0700 (PDT) > From: Shivinder Singh > To: Dave Fisher > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, > "Gerald E. Eisley" , > "Gary D. Confer" , > "Steven C. Davis" > Subject: Re: PINE 3.95/Compose > > > If I may also ask a question, We are running 3.90 version on AIX 3.2.5. > Everything has been working good so far, till until Internet provider > changed the newsserver name from "nntp.crl.com" to "nnrp.crl.com". Now > even after changing the name in .pinerc, I get the error message, Can't > connect to nnrp.crl.com,146: connection refused. I have checked putting > this name one by one in pine.conf and pine.conf.fixed, but no result. > Also, on typing tin, it automatically seems to connect to the old name > :nntp.crl.com. BUT, when I specify "export NNTPSERVER=nnrp.crl.com", > then it connects fine for tin. I believe, this was configured during > compile time. I will appreciate for some ideas, and if you think it does > need to be recomplied, how exactly do I do that, because I have never > installed pine myself before. > > Thanks a lot for an early response, > > > **************************************************************************** > Shivinder Singh |"Time they say is the cure for all worries > Paciolan Systems |and pain, the worry is that, Time is in > ssingh@paciolan.com |fact the cause..." /sh/ > ***************************************************************************** > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23286; Wed, 23 Oct 96 12:53:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA24483 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:48:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA24478 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:48:42 -0700 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr38.interl.net [205.244.161.38]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA22355; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:46:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA11916; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:49:50 -0500 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:49:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: "Sarah L. Lance" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE: Ctrl-S??? In-Reply-To: <326AAF4F.63A4@csupomona.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sun, 20 Oct 1996, Sarah L. Lance wrote: > I have a question regarding a command in PINE. The command is Ctrl-S. > I would sometimes accidentally press it, and then my screen would > freeze. I would lose my entire message. I get frustrated when that > happens because a 3-page message turns out to be a redo message. If > anyone has any idea of how I can reverse the Ctrl-S command, I would > very much appreciate your response. Thank you. :^) Go to Pine's setup (then select config) and unset preserve-start-stop-characters, that should get rid of the problem. After that you should get a message at the bottom of the screen saying something to the effect of "XOFF command received, see setup ...". For more information about it, do some of Ed's information research ;-) and hit ? when you move down to preserve-start-stop-characters. Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMm52hyGB07hAGnFhAQF6ngQA8JdsNBmwj05oIbDKCmdUMwJXZZp48ejf 0oJiujvQsX1eJPKAX+d/VgkaeKyIEDkUL/t7yrTziNHwq6a/9Twm+9AbY9HfLG0r 1hn+pHXCz7P9cVISw0wDmSOC9fpPLhQauvDMX8v8eO2yYYg6tshW5dwq9HqRo3dv zXhlTLaBkto= =BcR1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, @interl.net, @geocities.com Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23807; Wed, 23 Oct 96 13:15:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA18235 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:11:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA18230 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:11:18 -0700 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr38.interl.net [205.244.161.38]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA22837; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 15:09:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA12066; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 15:12:23 -0500 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 15:12:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Shivinder Singh Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE 3.95/Compose (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 23 Oct 1996, Shivinder Singh wrote: > If I may also ask a question, We are running 3.90 version on AIX 3.2.5. > Everything has been working good so far, till until Internet provider > changed the newsserver name from "nntp.crl.com" to "nnrp.crl.com". Now > even after changing the name in .pinerc, I get the error message, Can't > connect to nnrp.crl.com,146: connection refused. I have checked putting > this name one by one in pine.conf and pine.conf.fixed, but no result. > Also, on typing tin, it automatically seems to connect to the old name > :nntp.crl.com. BUT, when I specify "export NNTPSERVER=nnrp.crl.com", > then it connects fine for tin. I believe, this was configured during > compile time. I will appreciate for some ideas, and if you think it does > need to be recomplied, how exactly do I do that, because I have never > installed pine myself before. If you do have nttp-server set to: nnrp.crl.com make sure that news-collections is set to: *{nnrp.crl.com/nntp}[] Don't quote me on this, but I'm thinking that if Pine is trying to connect to nnrp.crl.com,146 that means at port 146. On my system that isn't anything (according to my /etc/services), but nntp is at port 119. Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMm58DyGB07hAGnFhAQGWXQQA5HlxOYsG4cQ6pUbgUR0nUn/2/fgsJEq0 AJlrdNbkp/p8JaRT9PF1H5MruMNLIH1auwy45d9Y4s51miRViH/7SUcdYsYZmQ6+ +UzLP+69UYBl8X2Vc9EuGoUGQ+uM+LCCmFWblQTVQVP5tXN0hxBQ7joJb6ZQ+0iO Op4frWh5BnM= =Jael -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, @interl.net, @geocities.com Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26397; Wed, 23 Oct 96 14:38:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA27533 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:34:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA27528 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:34:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vGArO-00038TC; Wed, 23 Oct 96 14:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yates dean Subject: Re: cut and paste Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:32:28 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: This is actually a different cut and paste question. I'd like to send my resume via Pine e-mail in ASCII. I have the resume on disc, use MS Works/Windows 3.1, and need to transfer the resume from my disc to Pine compose message. How do I do this??? Please explain in really simple-to understand language and assume little basic knowledge on my part. Thanks. Dean dyates1@alum.umbc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 15:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27571; Wed, 23 Oct 96 15:22:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA21991 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 15:19:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA21986 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 15:19:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vGBbo-00038TC; Wed, 23 Oct 96 15:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Reginald N Patton Subject: Re: PINE: Ctrl-S??? Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:14:21 -0400 Message-Id: References: <326AAF4F.63A4@csupomona.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 23 Oct 1996, Jason Englander wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > On Sun, 20 Oct 1996, Sarah L. Lance wrote: > > > I have a question regarding a command in PINE. The command is Ctrl-S. > > I would sometimes accidentally press it, and then my screen would > > freeze. I would lose my entire message. I get frustrated when that > > happens because a 3-page message turns out to be a redo message. If > > anyone has any idea of how I can reverse the Ctrl-S command, I would > > very much appreciate your response. Thank you. :^) > > Go to Pine's setup (then select config) and unset > preserve-start-stop-characters, that should get rid of the problem. After > that you should get a message at the bottom of the screen saying something > to the effect of "XOFF command received, see setup ...". For more > information about it, do some of Ed's information research ;-) and hit ? > when you move down to preserve-start-stop-characters. > > Jason I think ctrl-q will un"freeze" the screen for you. -- Reginald N Patton rnp@mdtsoft.com 770-642-3012 "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure." Mark Twain From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 15:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27730; Wed, 23 Oct 96 15:30:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA28798 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 15:28:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA28793 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 15:28:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vGBjr-00038VC; Wed, 23 Oct 96 15:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: alexlist@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at (Alexander List) Subject: MIME: Content-transfer-encoding Date: 21 Oct 1996 03:09:09 GMT Message-Id: <54epgl$t3l@fstgal00.tu-graz.ac.at> Hi, I'd like to change the following behaviour in PINE: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE I'd like to have this 8-BIT. Is there a configuration option to change this? Thanks for any hints... Alex --- Je me revolte, donc nous sommes. - Albert Camus Alexander List http://www.sbox.tu-graz.ac.at/home/alexlist/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 15:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27529; Wed, 23 Oct 96 15:31:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA28821 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 15:28:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca (bock.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.214]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA28816 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 15:28:40 -0700 Received: from maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA) id QAA23660 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:36:20 -0600 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.13]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.6/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA43036 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:28:28 -0600 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:28:28 -0600 (MDT) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: cut and paste In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To Mike (I think): We tried to duplicate the cut-and-paste from MS-Word to Pine problem here (in a networked environment, both machines with Win95, Pine 3.93) and it didn't happen... ??? Is there maybe something specific in your environment that is causing the CTRL-R characters to appear? Lea ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) http://www.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/tutor/Tutorials.html http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/Wiz/Wizard '...But I didn't mean to be brave; it just sort of happened when I panicked...' -Piglet ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 15:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27747; Wed, 23 Oct 96 15:31:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA22221 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 15:28:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA22210 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 15:28:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vGBjZ-00038TC; Wed, 23 Oct 96 15:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Smart Subject: PC-Pine: trouble defining folder-collections Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 17:21:06 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've found that adding remote folder collections to the folder-collections entry in the configure menu causes pine to ignore my local collection. I have folder-collections defined to $HOME/mail/[] {my.remote.host}~/mail/[] but only the second, remote collection is available from the folder list menu. The local collection is available when it is the only entry in folder-collections. On-line documentation says the first entry in the list is the default for saves, which is what I want. But changing the order doesn't help anyway. ANy ideas? thanks, Michael Smart -- ========================================================================== Michael Smart (416) 978-5119 (bus) U of T Economics, Toronto ON M5S 3G7 978-6713 (fax) ========================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:09:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30614; Wed, 23 Oct 96 17:09:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA24909 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:05:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs-mail.bu.edu (ACS-MAIL.BU.EDU [128.197.153.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id RAA24904 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:05:42 -0700 Received: from bu.edu (MED-PHYSIO11.BU.EDU [155.41.110.9]) by acs-mail.bu.edu (8.7.6/BU_Server-1.3) with SMTP id UAA38301; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 20:04:54 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 20:04:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Gregor J Jones Reply-To: Gregor J Jones To: Michael Smart Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC-Pine: trouble defining folder-collections In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 20 Oct 1996, Michael Smart wrote: | I've found that adding remote folder collections to the folder-collections | entry in the configure menu causes pine to ignore my local collection. | | I have folder-collections defined to | | $HOME/mail/[] | {my.remote.host}~/mail/[] | | but only the second, remote collection is available from the folder list | menu. The local collection is available when it is the only entry in | folder-collections. ...very peculiar... PC-Pine appears to be very unforgiving if you tell it to use a directory that doesn't exist. Is your $HOME variable set incorrectly? Does that subdirectory /mail/ exist? A way around a problem here is to give the full pathname. Also, the remote collection definition can be simplified. Here is my collection from my PINERC file, which works fine. Perhaps it will give you some ideas. folder-collections=Local-Mail C:\PINE\MAIL\[], Remote-Mail {acs-mail.bu.edu}Mail/[], Archived Mail B:\[] PS: If you are setting these by editing PINERC, the commas appear to be important. Yours Gregor __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ Gregor J Jones Tel: 617-638-5336 (Lab) Department of Physiology 617-282-4484 (Home) Boston University School of Medicine Fax: 617-638-4273 Boston MA 02118 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30657; Wed, 23 Oct 96 17:11:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA01872 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:08:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA01865 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:08:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vGDHy-00038TC; Wed, 23 Oct 96 17:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhebert@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN (james hebert) Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 has trouble creating lock file Date: 21 Oct 1996 04:15:55 GMT Message-Id: <54etdr$qo2@news.fsu.edu> References: Jon Morrow (morrow@obgyn.mssm.edu) wrote: : A simple 'chmod 1777 /var/spool/mail' did the trick. (Evidently, Pine : 3.91 also couldn't create the lock file, but it didn't bother reporting : it.) : -jon Doesn't this mean users can delete each others mail??? Please Cc me a copy of your followups. (I almost never read news...) Jim Hebert jhebert@lab.housing.fsu.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30727; Wed, 23 Oct 96 17:15:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA25085 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:13:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA25074 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:13:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vGDNV-00038TC; Wed, 23 Oct 96 17:10 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Slaughter Subject: Re: unix newsgroup Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 01:06:15 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 22 Oct 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: > > > Hi, i want to be in a unix newsgroup > do you know any news group for uninx ,and shell programming for > unix newsgroup? Uh... comp.unix.shell ???? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30737; Wed, 23 Oct 96 17:15:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA01991 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:13:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA01986 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:13:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vGDNW-00038WC; Wed, 23 Oct 96 17:10 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Pollak Subject: Re: Question Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 05:30:41 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 22 Oct 1996, Linda L. Deutsch wrote: > > If I should receive a message that has gone to approximately 100 other > people, how can I print a copy of this message without printing the other > 99 names? Simple workaround: forward it to yourself, and cut the offending list of names. Then print. Michael __________________________________________________________________________ Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:10:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31615; Wed, 23 Oct 96 18:10:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA26285 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:08:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA26280 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:08:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vGEDO-00038TC; Wed, 23 Oct 96 18:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: Re: Vms Pine Question In-Reply-To: <1996Oct22.193955@lor> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <1996Oct22.193955@lor> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:34:58 GMT [emailed and posted] On 22 Oct 1996, Jim Strother wrote: > I am currently running vms pine 3.91. Whenever I bring up the folder list, the > dates are x'd out. Did I build the software wrong, or is there a way around > this? Are you running Yehavi Bourvine's port of PINE, from HUJI? There can be a problem with identifying the RFC822 headers in the mail. If the mail starts with an RFC822 header that isn't in his list, his prog's inclined to act as if there weren't any RFC822 headers and try to get the date from the VMS MAIL headers. I think if you review my notes at http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7Eflavell/vms-pine.html you'll find something relevant. Hope that helps, but if you are dealing with some other port of PINE to VMS, then it probably won't ;-) -- best regards Join the WWW cache proxy awareness campaign: Cache Now! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31601; Wed, 23 Oct 96 18:10:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA03204 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:08:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA03199 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:08:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vGEEM-00038VC; Wed, 23 Oct 96 18:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: No Real Name, To: instead Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:40:25 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 22 Oct 1996, Haidinger Walter wrote on comp.mail.pine: > You probably have already noticed that my real name is missing when I'm > posting to newsgroups. Pine puts to: in place of my real name. This is what *you* see. We see your real name normally. Pine does this on purpose on the assumption that in your own folders, you already know what your own name is, so Pine instead reminds you whom you sent the message to. Pine is working the way it is supposed to. We see your name correctly. You are the only one who sees to:. > BTW: I did set my real name in the configs altough this should not be > necessary since I'm working on unix (that is AIX 4.1.4). > > Does anyone know how to fix this problem? There is no problem to fix. Pine is not broken. This is the way it works. > Ah, just another one: > How do I tell pine insert a Reply-To Header with my name and email > address when posting? I added Reply-To to the customized-headers and > Reply-To shows up with Rich-Headers as it is supposed to but it is quite > annoying to insert my name and email address by hand every time. When you add the Reply-To: header in customized-headers, you can also insert the value you want there in the configuration file so that it will already be present when you start to compose a message. You do not have to fill it in every time. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 20:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00880; Wed, 23 Oct 96 20:01:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA28373 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 19:58:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA28368 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 19:58:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vGFxQ-00038TC; Wed, 23 Oct 96 19:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu Date: 23 Oct 1996 10:08:14 EDT Control: cancel <54kq76$prj@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <54kq76$prj@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> no reply ignore Message-Id: Spam cancelled by dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu original subject was Lottery Information From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 22:58:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03039; Wed, 23 Oct 96 22:58:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA07737 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 22:55:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id WAA07732 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 22:55:43 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbmtr03863; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 01:55:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA22673; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 08:57:22 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05867; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 08:55:09 -0300 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:55:08 +0300 (GMT-3) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII where can i get the lastest version for pine pico and pilot ?? on www i want to dowload by netscape??? thanks *********************************************************************** *** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** college of engineering *** ** Computer Engineering *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** Kuwait University *** ** *** ** *********************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 22:59:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02693; Wed, 23 Oct 96 22:59:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA07788 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 22:58:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ecn.net.au (warp.ecn.net.au [198.142.61.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA07777 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 22:58:12 -0700 Received: from brecom.UUCP by ecn.net.au with UUCP id AA29014 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for cac.washington.edu!pine-info); Thu, 24 Oct 1996 15:40:51 +1000 Received: from unixdev by brecom.amh.com.au id aa00659; 24 Oct 96 15:14 EST Received: from kevin by unixdev.amh.com.au id aa26456; 24 Oct 96 15:12 aest Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 15:13:28 +1000 (EST) From: Kevin B Fleming To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: compiling pine 3.95 on SCO 4.2v4.2 Message-Id: X-Sender: kevin@unixdev Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When compiling pine with the 'build sco' command I get the follwing error: -- cc -g -DDEBUG -DSCO -DSYSTYPE=\"SCO\" -DMOUSE -o pine addrbook.o adr bklib.o args.o context.o filter.o folder.o help.o helptext.o imap.o init.o mail cap.o mailcmd.o mailindx.o mailpart.o mailview.o newmail.o other.o pine.o reply.o screen.o send.o signals.o status.o strings.o ttyin.o ttyout.o os.o date.c ../pico/libpico.a ../c-client/c-client.a -ltinfo -lprot -lx -lnsl_s -lsocket -l crypt -lc date.c ld libsocket.a: can't find library libcrypt.a -- I'm in Australia (not USA) I have applied the crypt (lng225b) supplement.. ____________________________________________________________ _--_|\ Kevin B Fleming kevin@amh.com.au internal phone: 40225 / AMH Network Administrator phone: +61 7 3810-2225 \_.--._/ Australia Meat Holdings fax: +61 7 3816-0535 v ... Near Enough is _never_ Good Enough ... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 23:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03339; Wed, 23 Oct 96 23:17:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA08041 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 23:14:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA08030 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 23:14:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vGIzH-00038TC; Wed, 23 Oct 96 23:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Puzzled about Pine Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:04:44 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 20 Oct 1996, Kathleen P. Daily-Herrman wrote: > I have a question about the "reply-to" feature in pine. > When I opt to include the original message in my > e-mail it starts right below the "Message Text" bar. Don't you get something like what is at the begining of this message when you reply. > This is very annoying as then I have to manually insert > lines so I can type in my reply above the original message. First, do you really want the reply to precede the original. I find it convenient to put my replying comments after the relevant bits of text. It saves people have to scroll down to see what the original message was. I hate answers that say "yes" while leaving the whole of long quoted email message for me to read to see what the question was. Also, you shouldn't really need to inset line. If you go to the begining of the message body and start typing things should work. I hope that this helps. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 23:52:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03870; Wed, 23 Oct 96 23:52:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA02044 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 23:50:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA02039 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 23:50:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vGJXT-00038TC; Wed, 23 Oct 96 23:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Conrad Yang Subject: Re: Error 452 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 20:23:31 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I have! And it's pissing me off! Conrad On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, colin turner wrote: > > Has anyone received an error 452 "insuff" (the rest is cut off)? > > o > ___ > -|\/ (o\-o------------------------------- > |/\___/ ___ aleph@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu > -------o-/o) \/|------------------------- > \___/\| > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 23:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03878; Wed, 23 Oct 96 23:54:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA08559 for pine-info-out; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 23:52:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.posenergy.co.kr (mail.posdata.co.kr [168.126.104.22]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA08548 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 23:52:07 -0700 Received: from ysjeon.mail.posdata.co.kr ([203.238.203.101]) by mail.posenergy.co.kr (8.6.11+hangul/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA03601 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 15:46:38 +0900 Message-Id: <326FF33D.4B41@mail.posdata.co.kr> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 07:52:45 +0900 From: Jeon Yong Soo Reply-To: ysjeon@mail.posdata.co.kr Organization: posdata X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: About PINE plan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nice to meet you. I have a question about the plan of PINE. Do you have any plan to develop Intranet based PINE mail having following architecture ? - HTML based User Interface or Java - Web server : Solaris 2.x - Web based mailing service using in individual organization compling SMTP, MIME protocol If you have any information about that please send mail to me. Thank you. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 00:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03629; Thu, 24 Oct 96 00:30:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA08994 for pine-info-out; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 00:28:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA08989 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 00:28:34 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 24 Oct 96 15:26:33 +0800 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 15:24:40 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Omar Butaiban Cc: pine-info Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 24 Oct 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: > where can i get the lastest version for pine > pico and pilot ?? > on www > i want to dowload by netscape??? Ooops...meant: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 00:30:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04152; Thu, 24 Oct 96 00:30:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA02535 for pine-info-out; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 00:26:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA02530 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 00:26:55 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 24 Oct 96 15:24:56 +0800 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 15:23:02 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Omar Butaiban Cc: pine-info Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 24 Oct 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: > where can i get the lastest version for pine > pico and pilot ?? > on www > i want to dowload by netscape??? ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 00:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04153; Thu, 24 Oct 96 00:30:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA09007 for pine-info-out; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 00:29:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA09002 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 00:29:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vGKDc-00038TC; Thu, 24 Oct 96 00:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J.Y.E. Tse" Subject: Re: unix newsgroup Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:05:50 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: Mime-Version: 1.0 On 22 Oct 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: > Hi, i want to be in a unix newsgroup > do you know any news group for uninx ,and shell programming for > unix newsgroup? Try "comp.unix.*", for example, "comp.unix.questions". Hope this helps. ---- J.Y.E. Tse From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 01:12:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04369; Thu, 24 Oct 96 01:12:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA03046 for pine-info-out; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 01:10:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.posenergy.co.kr (mail.posdata.co.kr [168.126.104.22]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA03041 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 01:10:20 -0700 Received: from ysjeon.mail.posdata.co.kr ([203.238.203.101]) by mail.posenergy.co.kr (8.6.11+hangul/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA04186 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 17:04:54 +0900 Message-Id: <32700596.5A43@mail.posdata.co.kr> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 09:11:02 +0900 From: Jeon Yong Soo Reply-To: ysjeon@mail.posdata.co.kr Organization: posdata X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: About PINE plan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nice to meet you. I have a question about the plan of PINE. Do you have any plan to develop Intranet based PINE mail having following architecture ? - HTML based User Interface or Java - Web server : Solaris 2.x - Web based mailing service using in individual organization compling SMTP, MIME protocol If you have any information about that please send mail to me. Thank you. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 01:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04444; Thu, 24 Oct 96 01:27:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA03210 for pine-info-out; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 01:23:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id BAA03204 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 01:23:47 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:18:16 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA02387; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:23:26 +0100 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:23:25 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Jeffrey Goldberg Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Puzzled about Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Conversely, I hate having to scroll down through reams of text I already know (having seen before, or even sent out) just to reach "Yes". For a lot of my replies I use the "reply before included text" format. That said I do use the "intersperse reply text within in included text" when appropriate, and with judicious editing of the included text. In my view having a default of "included text before reply" is too easy to "misuse" and just tack one's reply onto the end without any editing down of the original message text. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 22 Oct 1996, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > On 20 Oct 1996, Kathleen P. Daily-Herrman wrote: > > First, do you really want the reply to precede the original. I > find it convenient to put my replying comments after the relevant > bits of text. It saves people have to scroll down to see what > the original message was. I hate answers that say "yes" while leaving > the whole of long quoted email message for me to read to > see what the question was. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 01:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03985; Thu, 24 Oct 96 01:46:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA09946 for pine-info-out; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 01:44:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA09941 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 01:44:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vGLLe-00038VC; Thu, 24 Oct 96 01:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lynn Clark Subject: Pine Folder Locks Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:56:48 -0600 Message-Id: <326BB960.1170@chs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, we got imap4(beta) and pine 3.95 working the other day. However, we noticed an odd bit of behavior as we were testing it and are wondering if what we were trying to do is beyond what pine/imap are supposed to be able to do. Here's the scenario: If we start pine on one machine, everything is fine. Then, with this instance of pine running, we start pine on another machine as the same user. After a short period of time, the first instance of pine relinquishes the folder lock to the second instance running on the other machine. However, if the second instance on the other machine is shut down, the first instance never gets the folder lock back, so it can no longer process mail unless it, too, is shut down and restarted. In fact, regardless of whether the second instance is shut down or not, the first instance apparently can not recover the folder lock. Our question is, should pine/imap be able to "pass the folder lock" back and forth as we thought, or are we pushing it too far? And, if it should be able to do this, what do we need to change/set in order for it to work? -------------- Lynn Clark lclark@chs.com -------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 01:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04621; Thu, 24 Oct 96 01:47:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA03481 for pine-info-out; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 01:44:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA03476 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 01:44:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vGLLY-00038UC; Thu, 24 Oct 96 01:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine Folder Locks Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:18:11 -0700 Message-Id: References: <326BB960.1170@chs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <326BB960.1170@chs.com> There is no mechanism in the IMAP protocol to pass locks between sessions. The specific behavior you are seeing is an artifact of the old Unix (bezerk) mailbox format. It is not possible to get a lock back without reopening a folder, but Pine doesn't usually close and reopen the INBOX, which causes the problems you see. This problem caqn be averted by using one of the more robust folder formats supported by Pine and imapd. If you are using Pine to access folders as local files, your best bet is probably Tenex format. If access is strictly via IMAP, you might also investigate the newer MBX or MX folder formats. For details on Tenex, see http://www.washington.edu/pine/tech-notes/low-level.html#format To set up mail delivery directly to an alternate format, see the tmail program, available in ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap-utils.tar.Z On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, Lynn Clark wrote: > Well, we got imap4(beta) and pine 3.95 working the other day. However, > we noticed an odd bit of behavior as we were testing it and are > wondering if what we were trying to do is beyond what pine/imap are > supposed to be able to do. Here's the scenario: > > If we start pine on one machine, everything is fine. Then, with this > instance of pine running, we start pine on another machine as the same > user. After a short period of time, the first instance of pine > relinquishes the folder lock to the second instance running on the other > machine. However, if the second instance on the other machine is shut > down, the first instance never gets the folder lock back, so it can no > longer process mail unless it, too, is shut down and restarted. In > fact, regardless of whether the second instance is shut down or not, the > first instance apparently can not recover the folder lock. > > Our question is, should pine/imap be able to "pass the folder lock" back > and forth as we thought, or are we pushing it too far? And, if it > should be able to do this, what do we need to change/set in order for it > to work? > -------------- > Lynn Clark > lclark@chs.com > -------------- > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 01:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04617; Thu, 24 Oct 96 01:48:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA09959 for pine-info-out; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 01:44:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA09952 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 01:44:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vGLLT-00038TC; Thu, 24 Oct 96 01:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rameshg@Sun.COM (Ramesh Gunna) Subject: mime format Date: 21 Oct 1996 20:47:06 GMT Message-Id: <54gnga$h69@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Hi All, How do you convert a mime formatted mail that u received back to the original format like ascii or binary. Are there any tools to do this and where do I get them. Thanks in advance. -- Ramesh From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 01:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04282; Thu, 24 Oct 96 01:49:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA03474 for pine-info-out; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 01:44:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA03469 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 01:44:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vGLLR-00038BC; Thu, 24 Oct 96 01:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lynn Clark Subject: Pine Folder Locks Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:57:41 -0600 Message-Id: <326BB995.72C2@chs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, we got imap4(beta) and pine 3.95 working the other day. However, we noticed an odd bit of behavior as we were testing it and are wondering if what we were trying to do is beyond what pine/imap are supposed to be able to do. Here's the scenario: If we start pine on one machine, everything is fine. Then, with this instance of pine running, we start pine on another machine as the same user. After a short period of time, the first instance of pine relinquishes the folder lock to the second instance running on the other machine. However, if the second instance on the other machine is shut down, the first instance never gets the folder lock back, so it can no longer process mail unless it, too, is shut down and restarted. In fact, regardless of whether the second instance is shut down or not, the first instance apparently can not recover the folder lock. Our question is, should pine/imap be able to "pass the folder lock" back and forth as we thought, or are we pushing it too far? And, if it should be able to do this, what do we need to change/set in order for it to work? -------------- Lynn Clark lclark@chs.com -------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 02:09:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04870; Thu, 24 Oct 96 02:09:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA03790 for pine-info-out; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 02:08:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA03779 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 02:07:48 -0700 Received: from ciint by ns.NL.net (5.65b/NLnet1.3) id AA00545; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 10:40:57 +0200 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa12596; 24 Oct 96 10:37 WET Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 10:39:31 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering Reply-To: Richard Gering To: Kevin B Fleming Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: compiling pine 3.95 on SCO 4.2v4.2 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 24 Oct 1996, Kevin B Fleming wrote: > When compiling pine with the 'build sco' command I get the follwing error: > ../pico/libpico.a ../c-client/c-client.a -ltinfo -lprot -lx -lnsl_s > -lsocket -l crypt -lc date.c > > ld libsocket.a: can't find library libcrypt.a > > -- > I'm in Australia (not USA) I have applied the crypt (lng225b) supplement.. The SCO crypt supplement (lng225b) will provide you with the international crypt-only function you need, but the library in which this function is placed is called "crypt_i" instead of "crypt". Needless to say, this is not the place where a regular program such as Pine would look for it. To fix the problem, you can execute: ln /usr/lib/libcrypt_i.a /usr/lib/libcrypt.a That ought to do the trick! Works for me :-) Regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | Open minds use Open Systems | | CI International. The Netherlands | (which O.S. are you using?) | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 03:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05872; Thu, 24 Oct 96 03:42:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA11258 for pine-info-out; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 03:37:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id DAA11253 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 03:37:45 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbmuk27378; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 06:37:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA23465; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:38:52 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07099; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:36:38 -0300 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 19:36:37 +0300 (GMT-3) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: Rudolf Kompf , pine-info Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII where can i have information to install pine in my home directory?? ************************************************************************** ** *** ** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** ** college of engineering *** ** ** Computer Engineering student *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** ** Kuwait University *** ** ** *** ** ** *** ** ************************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 04:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06020; Thu, 24 Oct 96 04:01:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA05145 for pine-info-out; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 03:57:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from orca.cc.metu.edu.tr (orca.cc.metu.edu.tr [144.122.2.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA05140 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 03:57:21 -0700 Received: from localhost by orca.cc.metu.edu.tr (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03.METU.CLIENT) id AA51196; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:55:26 +0400 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:55:26 +0400 (MEDT) From: ulas tezel To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII can you send some information about 'internet relay chat' to e108759@orca.cc.metu.edu.tr thank you. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 04:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06433; Thu, 24 Oct 96 04:46:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA05908 for pine-info-out; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 04:42:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calisto.ccc.cranfield.ac.uk (calisto.ccc.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.1.172]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id EAA05903 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 04:42:01 -0700 Received: from beirut (actually host beirut.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk) by calisto with SMTP (PP); Thu, 24 Oct 1996 12:40:28 +0100 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 12:39:58 +0100 (BST) From: Jeffrey Goldberg X-Sender: cc047@beirut Reply-To: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Puzzled about Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: Cranfield University Computer Centre Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 24 Oct 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Conversely, Conversely to what? ;-) > I hate having to scroll down through reams of > text I already know (having seen before, or even sent out) just to reach > "Yes". Of course that is worse than "yes" followed by entirity of original text. Basically, if people don't edit or interpolate, then reply before text is better. But it is best to get people to edit. reply before text encourges people not to. Furthermore, replies to replies to replies are more readable if they all include the text before the reply than if the all do it after. (And if they mix, it is a nightmare). > In my view having a default of "included text before reply" is too easy to > "misuse" and just tack one's reply onto the end without any editing down > of the original message text. there is that danger, but "reply before include test" makes it much easier for people to not edit the include text at all. I suppose that only experience will tell. I forgot how this whole thing began. I can see a case for having include text after reply as an option, although I don't think I would make use of it. If I see a lot of message of the type you describe, I will reset pine.conf here. So far, I haven't seen too many unedited include texts before replies. - -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 04:59:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06562; Thu, 24 Oct 96 04:59:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA12369 for pine-info-out; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 04:54:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA12364 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 04:54:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vGOKF-00038BC; Thu, 24 Oct 96 04:51 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mika Siiskonen Subject: Local address pops to To-field Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:41:33 -0700 Message-Id: <326FE28D.5EFE@khro.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, we use pine version 3.93 It has very annoying feature: when you send mail outside our domain it always adds our own domain address to receiver's field. For example when you want to send message to msiiskon@hornet.pspt.fi and type msiiskon@ to To-field it makes the address like msiiskon@khro.fi and i have to edit the address backwards to correct it. Can somebody please help me. I haven't found anything concerning this from Config Setup Mika From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 06:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07039; Thu, 24 Oct 96 06:01:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA06907 for pine-info-out; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 05:59:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA06902 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 05:59:18 -0700 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 24 Oct 96 20:57:20 +0800 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 20:57:20 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: ulas tezel Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 24 Oct 1996, ulas tezel wrote: > can you send some information about 'internet relay chat' > to e108759@orca.cc.metu.edu.tr The pine group doesn't do "chat". Sorry. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 06:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07079; Thu, 24 Oct 96 06:06:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA13225 for pine-info-out; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 06:02:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA13220 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 06:02:29 -0700 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 24 Oct 96 21:00:30 +0800 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 21:00:30 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Omar Butaiban Cc: Rudolf Kompf , pine-info Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 24 Oct 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: > where can i have information to install pine > in my home directory?? Your questions are a bit too general. You need to describe your environment for people to supply you will valuable advice. But, basically, there is no difference where you install pine. Just put the executable in your home directory and set the permissions accordingly. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 06:13:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07000; Thu, 24 Oct 96 06:13:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA07031 for pine-info-out; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 06:07:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA07026 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 06:07:27 -0700 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 24 Oct 96 21:05:29 +0800 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 21:05:29 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Mika Siiskonen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Local address pops to To-field In-Reply-To: <326FE28D.5EFE@khro.fi> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 24 Oct 1996, Mika Siiskonen wrote: > Hello, > > we use pine version 3.93 > It has very annoying feature: > > when you send mail outside our domain > it always adds our own domain address > to receiver's field. > For example when you want to send message to > msiiskon@hornet.pspt.fi and type msiiskon@ > to To-field it makes the address like > msiiskon@khro.fi and i have to edit the > address backwards to correct it. > > Can somebody please help me. Question: How do your expect pine to guess that user msiiskon is at hornet.pspt.fi? Why not at mit.edu or sgi.com? Just typing msiiskon@ or msiiskon is considered an underqualified address. It is quite standard proceedure to append the local domain to that type of address. Or, maybe I'm not understanding your question... Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 06:39:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07354; Thu, 24 Oct 96 06:39:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA07428 for pine-info-out; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 06:35:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lassie.eunet.fi (lassie.eunet.fi [192.26.119.7]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA07423 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 06:35:32 -0700 Received: from khro.fi (khrsun.khro.fi) by lassie.eunet.fi with SMTP id AA18306 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:35:29 +0300 Received: from localhost by khro.fi (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA09712; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:36:58 -0200 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:36:57 -0200 (GMT) From: Mika Siiskonen X-Sender: msiiskon@khrsun To: Edward M Greshko Cc: Mika Siiskonen , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Local address pops to To-field In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 24 Oct 1996, Edward M Greshko wrote: > Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 21:05:29 +0800 (GMT) > From: Edward M Greshko > To: Mika Siiskonen > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Local address pops to To-field > > On Thu, 24 Oct 1996, Mika Siiskonen wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > we use pine version 3.93 > > It has very annoying feature: > > > > when you send mail outside our domain > > it always adds our own domain address > > to receiver's field. > > For example when you want to send message to > > msiiskon@hornet.pspt.fi and type msiiskon@ > > to To-field it makes the address like > > msiiskon@khro.fi and i have to edit the > > address backwards to correct it. > > > > Can somebody please help me. > > Question: How do your expect pine to guess that user msiiskon > is at hornet.pspt.fi? Why not at mit.edu or sgi.com? Just typing > msiiskon@ or msiiskon is considered an underqualified address. It is > quite standard proceedure to append the local domain to that type > of address. > > Or, maybe I'm not understanding your question... No Ed you didn't but it may be because of my bad english ;-)) What i am trying to say is that i don't have any chance to write the rest of the address (for example hornet.pspt.fi) because when i have typed msiiskon@ pine makes the rest of the address automatically (that is msiiskon@khro.fi). After that it jumps to Cc-field and writes @-mark there and the cursor blinks in Cc-field too. Now if i want to correct this i have to delete @-mark from Cc-field, then go to To-field and edit the rest of the address by deleting khro.fi and retyping hornet.pspt.fi > Regards, > > Ed Mika From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 06:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07469; Thu, 24 Oct 96 06:54:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA13853 for pine-info-out; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 06:48:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA13848 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 06:48:06 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 24 Oct 96 21:46:09 +0800 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 21:46:42 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko To: Mika Siiskonen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Local address pops to To-field In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 24 Oct 1996, Mika Siiskonen wrote: > No Ed you didn't but it may be because of my bad english ;-)) Your English is just fine. I think it is you just didn't fully define the problem > What i am trying to say is that i don't have any chance to > write the rest of the address (for example hornet.pspt.fi) > because when i have typed msiiskon@ pine makes the rest of > the address automatically (that is msiiskon@khro.fi). > > After that it jumps to Cc-field and writes @-mark there and > the cursor blinks in Cc-field too. > > Now if i want to correct this i have to delete @-mark from > Cc-field, then go to To-field and edit the rest of the address > by deleting khro.fi and retyping hornet.pspt.fi I *fully* understand now! OK, this appears not to be a pine problem. You should *not* be getting the @ sign in any of the fields without your typing it yourself. I suspect there is something amiss with your "stty" settings or your TERM settings. Can you tell us more about your environment? Like the platform you are running on, etc? I'm not an expert in stty settings and the like...but you may want to type "stty -a" at your shell prompt and post it to the group. Someone may see something. I've had a problem in the past where typing a @ character acted as a "kill". Anyway, I don't believe pine is to blame...otherwise not many people would be using it. :-) Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 10:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13683; Thu, 24 Oct 96 10:21:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA18401 for pine-info-out; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 10:14:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from email.csun.edu (csun2.csun.edu [130.166.1.9]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.10/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id KAA18389 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 10:14:26 -0700 Received: from localhost by csun2.csun.edu with SMTP (1.40.112.6/16.2) id AA244097264; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 10:14:24 -0700 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 10:14:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Sterling Silver X-Sender: hbpsy058@csun2.csun.edu To: Pine Info Subject: Call waiting... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi and think you for the use of Pine. Your constant up-grading is appreciated as are you welcomed suggestions. I had noticed that with previos versions of Pine, that when call waiting would interupt an e-mail session, that Pine would save the message and there would be the ability to continue the message at a later time. WIth this new version (3.95), that does not seem to be the case. At times, I have composed a rather long letter and due to call waiting and being bummed off line, found my self having to re type the entire thing, often forgetting what I had written. Is it possible to replace this feature??? Thanks ***************************************************************************** *** **** *** ****. . . . . . . Sir. Andrew S. 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( Is this ME or what ! ) **************************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 21:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27600; Thu, 24 Oct 96 21:58:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA03991 for pine-info-out; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 21:54:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gandalf.rapid.co.uk (gandalf.rapid.co.uk [195.188.0.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA03987 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 21:54:21 -0700 Message-Id: <199610250454.VAA03987@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Received: from modem73.rapid.co.uk ([195.188.0.113]) by gandalf.rapid.co.uk (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with SMTP id AAA263 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 05:56:21 +0100 From: fa54@gandalf.rapid.co.uk Date: Fri, 25 Oct 96 05:51:49 -700 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla/1.0N (Windows) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: base64 Ive coppied file from the internet wich tell me to decode them in base64 but I have got the foggiest how. can someone hell me. Andy fa54@mail.rapid.co.uk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 08:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02136; Fri, 25 Oct 96 08:27:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA05700 for pine-info-out; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 08:18:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from fcrd.gov.uk (zeus.fcrd.gov.uk [194.216.170.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA05661 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 08:17:04 -0700 Received: (from porter@localhost) by fcrd.gov.uk (8.7.6/8.7.3) id QAA05591; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 16:15:38 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 16:15:37 +0100 (BST) From: Tim Porter X-Sender: porter@jupiter Reply-To: Tim Porter To: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Cc: comp-mail-sendmail@dl.ac.uk Subject: Problem with Pine 3.95 and Sendmail 8.7.6 ?? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm not sure if this is a Pine or a sendmail problem, so I'm posting it to both groups in the hope that someone can help. I have Pine 3.95 and I have sendmail 8.7.6 both running on a Solaris 2.5.1 system. I compiled the sendmail myself using gcc and I generated the sendmail.cf from the .mc files. In my global pine.conf file I have 'sendmail-path=/usr/local/bin/sendit.sh'. The sendit.sh script calls sendmail with the options '-oi -oem -t'. Our connection to the Internet only operates during working hours, so overnight I run sendmail in 'delay' mode (sendmail -bd -odd) so that all mail is queued. However, it still appears to be trying to deliver mail when it is sent using Pine. Is this something to do with the way that Pine is using sendmail? All suggestions welcome! Thanks in advance, Tim Porter ------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Porter t.porter@fcrd.gov.uk Forestry Commission, Research Division, UK ------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 13:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27072; Fri, 25 Oct 96 13:16:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA13739 for pine-info-out; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 13:11:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from moon.pr.erau.edu (moon.pr.erau.edu [192.101.135.8]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA13735 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 13:11:44 -0700 Received: from moon.pr.erau.edu (vezinok@moon.pr.erau.edu [192.101.135.8]) by moon.pr.erau.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA07558 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 13:11:41 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 13:11:40 -0700 (MST) From: Roswell Reply-To: Roswell To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bugs Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have noticed some bugs in the new pine. When I am reading my mail the top paragraph or two are cut off unless i maxamize my window. It carries parts of pages over, when you go to a new screen, so you are seeing your current doc, and part of your old one. Sometimes it doesn't list all the commands at the bottom of the screen. When you scroll down it messes up you doc for when you scroll back up. I do however, like the speed of the new pine, It sends mail, creates folder lists, and logs off much faster. Fair Thee Well! Roswell "Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people... It is true that most stupid people are conservative." -John Stuart Mill KJ "Cobra" Vezino "THE MOST SPIRITUAL HUMAN BEINGS, IF WE ERAU BOX 8428 ASSUME THAT THEY ARE THE MOST COURAGEOUS, Prescott, AZ ALSO EXPERIENCE BY FAR THE MOST PAINFUL 86301 TRAGEDIES: BUT JUST FOR THAT REASON THEY ELECTRICAL ENGINEER HONOR LIFE BECAUSE IT PITS ITS GREATEST AFROTC DET. 028 OPPOSITION AGAINST THEM"........NIETZSCHE "THE BEST IN THE WEST" Merry Ye Meet, Merry Ye Part, Merry Ye Meet Again! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 00:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18807; Sat, 26 Oct 96 00:34:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA02496 for pine-info-out; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 00:29:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from metz.une.edu.au (metz.une.edu.au [129.180.1.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA02492 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 00:29:38 -0700 Received: from localhost (jdeboer@localhost) by metz.une.edu.au (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id RAA02618 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 17:01:11 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 17:01:11 +1000 (EST) From: John de Boer To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Ctrl C ineffective Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm using Pine on a Mac in a university network. Control C is ineffective. To make it effective, I have to first pull down Sessions from the menu bar, click on Set-up keys and then in "Interupt Process" chance the default ^C shown, to ^Z. Every time I open Pine. Is there a way ^Z can be set as default? PS the pc's on the network do not have this problem. Rgds John de Boer ####################################################################### MOUNTAINBIKING? Rides through formidable, majestic national parks around Armidale - enjoying nature or just "careering" down fire trails? It's wonderful. Marvellous. Incredible. - Call me when you're ready to go. ####################################################################### From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 01:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09707; Sat, 26 Oct 96 01:51:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA03488 for pine-info-out; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 01:49:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA03482 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 01:49:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vH4N0-00038BC; Sat, 26 Oct 96 01:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Carol L Bott Subject: Email with attachments -- HELP! Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 22:27:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm new, and I just got email with an attachment. I can't figure out how to view the attachment. When I try to view it, it says: Don't know how to display attachment format Application/OCTET-STREAM] If I save the attachment, how do I then view it? Where is it saved? Thanks for the assistance. cb From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 01:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20909; Sat, 26 Oct 96 01:56:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA03546 for pine-info-out; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 01:54:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA03540 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 01:54:00 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 26 Oct 96 16:52:04 +0800 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 16:50:07 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: John de Boer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Ctrl C ineffective In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 26 Oct 1996, John de Boer wrote: > > I'm using Pine on a Mac in a university network. > > Control C is ineffective. To make it effective, I have to first pull down > Sessions from the menu bar, click on Set-up keys and then in "Interupt > Process" chance the default ^C shown, to ^Z. Every time I open Pine. > > Is there a way ^Z can be set as default? > > PS the pc's on the network do not have this problem. Sounds like you are using a MAC. I'm not a MACer....but the problem is most likely with your telnet SW. Are you using the NCSA telnet by any chance? I've heard there are ways to "fix" your problem....but not being a MACer. Does this fit the description of your problem? Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 02:21:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21101; Sat, 26 Oct 96 02:21:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA26802 for pine-info-out; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 02:18:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA26796 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 02:18:39 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 26 Oct 96 17:16:43 +0800 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 17:14:46 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Carol L Bott Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Email with attachments -- HELP! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 25 Oct 1996, Carol L Bott wrote: > I'm new, and I just got email with an attachment. I can't figure out how > to view the attachment. When I try to view it, it says: Don't know how > to display attachment format Application/OCTET-STREAM] > > If I save the attachment, how do I then view it? Where is it saved? > Thanks for the assistance. First, pine will save it your your "home directory". What that is will vary depending the platform you are using. You are running on an RS6000 machine. So, that would indicate you are accessing pine via a shell account. With "luck" you are not accessing pine through a menu driven shell account. Anyway, the attachment should be saved in your home directory. Now, the trick is "what is" the attachment. It shows up as "octet-stream" which is a "catch-all" type. It would have been nice if the sender could have told you what the attachment is or sent it in such a way that the MIME headers told you. If the attachment is an MS-Word or whatever....then you'll need to xfer it your PC to view it. Other wise....you can try, your your shell account, typing something like "more filename" Hope this helps.... Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 04:47:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22007; Sat, 26 Oct 96 04:47:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA28480 for pine-info-out; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 04:44:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA28476 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 04:44:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vH77Z-00038TC; Sat, 26 Oct 96 04:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Omar Butaiban Subject: Re: unix newsgroup Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 00:32:32 +0300 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 23 Oct 1996, Harry Slaughter wrote: > On 22 Oct 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, i want to be in a unix newsgroup > > do you know any news group for uninx ,and shell programming for > > unix newsgroup? > > Uh... comp.unix.shell ???? > > i am new on internet ,can you tell me what do i do to subscribe to this newsgroup......... becuase i don't know the email eadress thanks ! *********************************************************************** *** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** college of engineering *** ** Computer Engineering *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** Kuwait University *** ** *** ** *********************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 05:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22318; Sat, 26 Oct 96 05:01:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA05643 for pine-info-out; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 04:59:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA05639 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 04:59:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vH7Mm-00038BC; Sat, 26 Oct 96 04:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aalston@s-cwis.unomaha.edu (ALSTON) Subject: email forwarding Date: 23 Oct 1996 22:20:21 -0500 Message-Id: <54mn9l$k3a@s-cwis.unomaha.edu> Does anyone out there know how to have mail sent to one email address forwarded to another one automatically? If so, please hip me to this... Arthur Alston SHizuoka Japan jgjao2@hss.shizuoka.ac.jp From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 06:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22309; Sat, 26 Oct 96 06:12:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA29358 for pine-info-out; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 06:09:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA29348 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 06:09:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vH8Ps-00038BC; Sat, 26 Oct 96 06:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Wei C. Lin" Subject: Force Pine to use another character set Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 20:27:37 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Does someone know how to configure and force Pine to use ISO-8859-1 character set to display incoming mails, even though it's indicated within the mails US-ASCII is being used as character set? and how to force Pine to "think" the encoding is QUOTED-PRINTABLE? Thanks Lin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 06:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22817; Sat, 26 Oct 96 06:42:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA06678 for pine-info-out; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 06:39:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA06673 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 06:39:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vH8wA-00038BC; Sat, 26 Oct 96 06:38 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: saper@sgh.waw.pl (Marcin Cieslak) Subject: Re: MIME: Content-transfer-encoding Date: 24 Oct 1996 17:54:00 GMT Message-Id: <54oafo$emq@onyx.sgh.waw.pl> References: <54epgl$t3l@fstgal00.tu-graz.ac.at> In-Reply-To: <54epgl$t3l@fstgal00.tu-graz.ac.at> In article <54epgl$t3l@fstgal00.tu-graz.ac.at>, alexlist@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at (Alexander List) writes: >I'd like to change the following behaviour in PINE: >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE > >I'd like to have this 8-BIT. Is there a configuration option to change >this? Pine is stictly MIME and ESMTP RFC compliant. First, you have to enable esmtp 8bit negotiation in pine setup. However, your sendmail (of a sender) and sedmails of all recipients must be able to handle 8bit ESMTP mail, otherwise it will be converted to QUOTED-PRINTABLE. To check this, telnet to your mail host, port 25 and type: EHLO my-host If you got a response containing: 250-8BITMIME then your sendmail accepts 8 bit mail. If not, you may need to recompile it. However, with MIME compliant mail utility, like pine, you should get QUOTED-PRINTABLE encoding converted back top eight bit, so you shouldn't worry. -- << Marcin Cieslak // saper@sgh.waw.pl >> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 07:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22964; Sat, 26 Oct 96 07:01:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA06838 for pine-info-out; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 06:58:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA06834 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 06:58:11 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 26 Oct 96 21:56:15 +0800 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 21:56:46 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko To: ALSTON Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: email forwarding In-Reply-To: <54mn9l$k3a@s-cwis.unomaha.edu> Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 23 Oct 1996, ALSTON wrote: > Does anyone out there know how to have mail sent to one email address > forwarded to another one automatically? If so, please hip me to this... Well, it sometimes depends on the platform. Running U*IX, VMS? Anyway I'll just assume you are on a U*IX system.....and I'll assume you have a shell account.... Create a file in your home directory. Make sure it is world readable. The file must be named .forward. The contents of the file should be: newaccount@host.someplace.edu (you get the picture?) On some systems you can type "man forward" or "man sendmail" and it will give you additional info.... Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 08:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23709; Sat, 26 Oct 96 08:44:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA01062 for pine-info-out; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 08:39:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA01058 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 08:39:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHAng-00038BC; Sat, 26 Oct 96 08:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Schleichert Subject: Default composer headers Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 20:33:53 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I added Return-Receipt-To: and Reply-To: to my default composer headers but they woin't show. To the opposite, now only default default headers show up, not even (while composing to a newsgroup) the To: line which is in my default-composer-headers list. Is this list by some means limited? Thanks, - Hans From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 08:56:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23746; Sat, 26 Oct 96 08:56:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA01241 for pine-info-out; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 08:54:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from where.why.net (where.why.net [205.240.252.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA01237 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 08:54:15 -0700 Received: from why154.why.net ([206.160.171.28]) by where.why.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11525) with SMTP id AAA153 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 10:52:16 -0500 Received: by why154.why.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BBC32B.FEFCA1C0@why154.why.net>; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 10:54:01 -0500 Message-Id: <01BBC32B.FEFCA1C0@why154.why.net> From: carydc@why.net (carydc) To: "'pine-info@cac.washington.edu'" Subject: unsubscribe Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 10:53:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 12:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25443; Sat, 26 Oct 96 12:12:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA10490 for pine-info-out; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 12:10:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA10486 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 12:10:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHE70-00038BC; Sat, 26 Oct 96 12:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Hutchinson Subject: Re: reply-to-all-recipients Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 15:02:50 -0400 Message-Id: <326FBD5A.78026D4@pfc.mit.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a related gripe, which makes me all the more want to turn off reply- to-all-recipients permanently, till it is fixed. Pine 3.95 seems to have a logical error during reply if I say yes to reply to all recipients, I get (for example) the following error in the composer screen. Cc : HUTCH@CMOD2.PFC.MIT.EDUhutch, UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR., hutch@VENUS.PFC.MIT.EDUHUTCH The header of the message I am replying to is Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:30:43 +0100 From: Jennifer Crockett To: Ian Hutchinson Subject: Re: Technician projections. Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:29:26 -0400 (EDT) Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:29:23 -0400 (EDT) Resent-From: HUTCH@CMOD2.PFC.MIT.EDU Resent-From: hutch@PFC.MIT.EDU Resent-To: hutch@VENUS.PFC.MIT.EDU Resent-To: HUTCH@CMOD2.PFC.MIT.EDU The different addresses arise because of forwarding of my mail from remote machines. This happens with all messages, but there is no error if I say no to reply to all recipients. Does anyone know how to fix this problem? -- Ian Hutchinson, Plasma Fusion Center, MIT. http://cmod.pfc.mit.edu/~hutch/home.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 13:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12678; Sat, 26 Oct 96 13:02:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA11036 for pine-info-out; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 12:57:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pluto.sfsu.edu (pluto.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.168]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA11031 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 12:57:41 -0700 Received: from localhost (bnguyen@localhost) by pluto.sfsu.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA23397 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 12:57:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: pluto.sfsu.edu: bnguyen owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 12:57:39 -0700 (PDT) From: NAM NGUYEN X-Sender: bnguyen@pluto To: Pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pasting and Copying Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII HI, I would like to ask you (expert) that how can I copy my graphic from my AutocadR12 and paste it into the E-mail. I work very well with other applicans but not Autocad. If any one of you who knows how to do so, please let me know. Thanks for your time. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 14:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22268; Sat, 26 Oct 96 14:49:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA05367 for pine-info-out; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 14:45:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA05363 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 14:45:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHGWN-00038BC; Sat, 26 Oct 96 14:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: xtian@whipit.devo.com (Xtian) Subject: I LOVE PINE!!! Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 23:31:02 GMT Message-Id: <32714b66.145674198@news.tds.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, the subject is true but I couldn't actually use a subject pertaining to my question as I would get needlessly flamed. So, on to the question, shall we? Yep, you guessed it. FILTERING. I want to know how to filter a message. Wait, hold on, I've read the FAQ, and I know what procmail is (and use it daily on my unix machines)! So how could I possibly have a question about filtering? I use Windows NT 4.0. I run PC Pine for Windows 3.95. The IMAP server is also on a WIndows NT 4 system. There is no ELM, nor an ELM filter program, for NT. Thre is no procmail for NT either. What kind person out there can tell me how to filter my incoming messages? Much oblidged! -Christian [c h r i s t i a n r o h r m e i e r] D E V O Communications Publishers of unique information on the web http://www.devo.com xtian@devo.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 15:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26526; Sat, 26 Oct 96 15:24:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA12796 for pine-info-out; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 15:20:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA12792 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 15:20:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHH2F-00038BC; Sat, 26 Oct 96 15:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: alan@bali.seg.wj.com (Alan Strassberg) Subject: Re: Another IMAP client (not PINE) ? <- free GUI Date: 24 Oct 1996 12:36:27 -0700 Message-Id: <54ogfr$qml@bali.seg.wj.com> References: <546218$14qd@zeus.ucab.edu.ve> In article <546218$14qd@zeus.ucab.edu.ve>, Jesus Couto wrote: [..big snip..] > There is a good Windows IMAP client with a graphical interface? A free GUI IMAP client that runs on: Win3.1/Win95/WinNT/Solaris-Intel/Solaris The main page is: http://www.sun.com/solstice/index.html The actual download is: http://www.sun.com/solstice/Networking-products/sims/download.html#client Kudos to Sun for making this available. Followups to comp.mail.misc . alan -- alan@wj.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 16:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27395; Sat, 26 Oct 96 16:17:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA13366 for pine-info-out; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 16:15:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from add-url.com ([194.184.204.7]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA13359 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 16:14:57 -0700 Received: (from admin@localhost) by add-url.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA22521 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 01:18:43 +0200 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 01:18:43 +0200 From: ADD-URL Administrator Message-Id: <199610262318.BAA22521@add-url.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Free_Add-Url_+100_Search_Engines. "Add-Url" is a new service to submit your site to hundreds of Search Engines using a full automatically system. You have FREE access to this service during two weeks starting today. Join the Url: http://www.add-url.com (or if you have dns problem use: http://194.184.204.22) and where requested, please use the password: taddurl (lower characters) Please report your suggestions to this email address. Best Regards. Sarah Ferguson - Marketing Manager Add-Url Service From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 16:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27538; Sat, 26 Oct 96 16:28:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA06478 for pine-info-out; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 16:25:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA06474 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 16:25:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHI5X-00038BC; Sat, 26 Oct 96 16:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Email with attachments -- HELP! Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 19:20:03 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 26 Oct 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Fri, 25 Oct 1996, Carol L Bott wrote: > > [...] > > If I save the attachment, how do I then view it? Where is it saved? > > Thanks for the assistance. > First, pine will save it your your "home directory". [...] Ummm, just a refinement, Ed. I believe that should be "current directory." Probably for the great many Un*x Pine users, their home directory _is_ their current directory, but it doesn't have to be. For example, I have a directory $HOME/tmp, and I always make that my current directory (usually via my login) before I start Pine. All exports, attachment saves, and what-not always go into that directory, not my home directory. I do this deliberately to avoid the risk of cluttering up my home directory. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 17:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27837; Sat, 26 Oct 96 17:03:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA06899 for pine-info-out; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 17:01:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA06895 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 17:01:14 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 27 Oct 96 07:59:19 +0800 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 07:59:48 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko To: Xtian Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: I LOVE PINE!!! In-Reply-To: <32714b66.145674198@news.tds.net> Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 25 Oct 1996, Xtian wrote: > Well, the subject is true but I couldn't actually use a subject > pertaining to my question as I would get needlessly flamed. So, on to > the question, shall we? But "I Love Pine" is such a common thing that chances are nobody will read eny further. :-) :-) > Yep, you guessed it. FILTERING. I want to know how to filter a > message. Wait, hold on, I've read the FAQ, and I know what procmail is > (and use it daily on my unix machines)! So how could I possibly have a > question about filtering? > > I use Windows NT 4.0. I run PC Pine for Windows 3.95. The IMAP server > is also on a WIndows NT 4 system. There is no ELM, nor an ELM filter > program, for NT. Thre is no procmail for NT either. > > What kind person out there can tell me how to filter my incoming > messages? I can't.... But your subject should have been "Filtering email on an NT machine"!! Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 17:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16895; Sat, 26 Oct 96 17:11:12 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA14064 for pine-info-out; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 17:09:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA14057 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 17:09:00 -0700 Received: from localhost by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 27 Oct 96 08:07:03 +0800 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 08:07:03 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Paul O Bartlett Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Email with attachments -- HELP! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 26 Oct 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On 26 Oct 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > On Fri, 25 Oct 1996, Carol L Bott wrote: > > > [...] > > > If I save the attachment, how do I then view it? Where is it saved? > > > Thanks for the assistance. > > First, pine will save it your your "home directory". [...] > > Ummm, just a refinement, Ed. I believe that should be "current > directory." Probably for the great many Un*x Pine users, their home > directory _is_ their current directory, but it doesn't have to be. > For example, I have a directory $HOME/tmp, and I always make that my > current directory (usually via my login) before I start Pine. All > exports, attachment saves, and what-not always go into that directory, > not my home directory. I do this deliberately to avoid the risk of > cluttering up my home directory. Ahhh...well a further refinement...it will be "current directory" iff you have " use-current-dir " set in your configuration. Otherwise it will be your "home directory". I suspect you have " use-current-dir" check but just forgot about it. :-) :-) Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 17:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28073; Sat, 26 Oct 96 17:29:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA07222 for pine-info-out; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 17:26:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from access4.digex.net (access4.digex.net [205.197.245.195]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA07218 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 17:26:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (pobart@localhost) by access4.digex.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA08299 ; for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 20:26:26 -0400 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 20:26:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul O Bartlett X-Sender: pobart@access4.digex.net To: Edward M Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Email with attachments -- HELP! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-No-Archive: yes Organization: Express Access Private Account Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Edward M Greshko wrote: > On Sat, 26 Oct 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > > On 26 Oct 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > On Fri, 25 Oct 1996, Carol L Bott wrote: > > > > [...] > Ahhh...well a further refinement...it will be "current directory" > iff you have " use-current-dir " set in your configuration. Otherwise > it will be your "home directory". [...] I stand refined on my refinement to you :-) . It has been so long since I did anything with that part of my configuration that I had forgotten about it. However, even the help screen for that option could use a little refinement. For inclusion and attachment of files (I have not tried the latter lately) one may merely specify the filename and get the file from the current directory (or home, as the case may be). But what the help screen does not tell you is that you can give an explicit path and fetch a file from anyplace on the system that you have read permission for, not just the current (or home) directory. (I am speaking of Un*x Pine here.) I have used that undocumented feature many, many times. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 20:09:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29401; Sat, 26 Oct 96 20:09:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA16083 for pine-info-out; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 20:06:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA16078 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 20:06:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHLXU-00038BC; Sat, 26 Oct 96 20:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: xtian@whipit.devo.com (Xtian) Subject: Filtering incoming mail under Windows NT 4.0 (was: I LOVE PINE!!!) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 01:20:05 GMT Message-Id: <3272b7fa.15580263@news.tds.net> References: <32714b66.145674198@news.tds.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I use Windows NT 4.0. I run PC Pine for Windows 3.95. The IMAP server is also on a Windows NT 4 system. There is no ELM, nor an ELM filter program, for NT. There is no procmail for NT either. What kind person out there can tell me how to filter my incoming messages? Much oblidged! -Christian [c h r i s t i a n r o h r m e i e r] D E V O Communications Publishers of unique information on the web http://www.devo.com xtian@devo.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 23:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30861; Sat, 26 Oct 96 23:39:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA11178 for pine-info-out; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 23:36:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA11174 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 23:36:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHOpT-00038TC; Sat, 26 Oct 96 23:36 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Slaughter Subject: Re: ^R characters in incoming mail Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 21:06:28 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 23 Oct 1996, Michael Pollak wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Oct 1996, J.Y.E. Tse wrote: > > > > > If you use Vi to compose e-mails, you can use this command to replace > > all ^R's with nothing : > > > > :%s/(control V)(control R)//g > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > ---- > > J.Y.E. Tse > > > > > > Can that command be used in Pine? As he mentions, *if* you are using the Vi editor. If you aren't, you *should* be. ; ) Harry From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 00:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30682; Sun, 27 Oct 96 00:31:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA18759 for pine-info-out; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 00:26:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA18755 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 00:26:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHPam-00038BC; Sun, 27 Oct 96 00:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Torsten Behnke Subject: need help on this Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:50:35 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII well i'm new on here so i need some help how to handle it thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 02:29:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32330; Sun, 27 Oct 96 02:29:43 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA20694 for pine-info-out; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 03:26:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA20690 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 03:26:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHSP7-00038BC; Sun, 27 Oct 96 02:25 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Force Pine to use another character set Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 19:41:45 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 23 Oct 1996, Wei C. Lin wrote: > Does someone know how to configure and force Pine to use > ISO-8859-1 character set to display incoming mails, even though it's > indicated within the mails US-ASCII is being used as character set? and > how to force Pine to "think" the encoding is QUOTED-PRINTABLE? Actually, Pine mostly just takes the raw characters and passes them unchanged to the display, which may, of course, be on the other end of a communications link. It is up to the display device actually to convert the bit patterns of the input into properly displayed characters. For example, I use a DOS desktop computer dialed in to a Un*x server. It is my computer's current code page which actually determines what I see, not Pine. I can, and occasionally do, change code pages on one and the same message and see different things. Notice that I said "Pine mostly...". If the headers say that the message is in Quoted-Printable format and Pine finds =xx in the message, it will convert it to the corresponding 8-bit pattern and then pass that through. Again, what you actually see for such a character depends on your display device, as Pine is no longer in the picture at that point. I'm not sure what you mean by forcing Pine to "think" the encoding is Quoted-Printable. Do you mean that there are Quoted-Printable forms in the message but no header to tell Pine so (as can happen if the headers get mashed), so that you are seeing =xx instead of a character? 1) If this is so, 2) if you are using Pine on a Un*x system, and 3) if Perl 5 is installed on the system, then you can do the following: a) Put the following one-line Perl 5 program in a directory in your $PATH: perl5 -pe 's/\=([0-9A-Fa-f]{2})/chr(hex($1))/ge; s/\=\n//;' b) Make it executable and do a rehash; c) In your Pine configuration, make sure the pipe command is enabled; d) When you see =xx Quoted-Printable forms that you want the "real" characters for, invoke the pipe command (|) and use the name of the Perl 5 program above; it will convert the Quoted-Printable forms into the "real" characters, which will be up to your display to show correctly; e) Be sure to exit from the Piped Message screen before you try to do anything else with the message. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 04:26:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00744; Sun, 27 Oct 96 04:26:32 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA22133 for pine-info-out; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 05:22:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA22129 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 05:22:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHUE5-00038UC; Sun, 27 Oct 96 04:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bparker@interaccess.com (Ben Parker) Subject: Re: POP3 & IMAP - PC Pine 3.95 - Can ANYONE Help??? Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:34:33 GMT Message-Id: <3275e1ce.57610942@nntp.interaccess.com> References: <326B4A11.7476@yesic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 21 Oct 1996 03:01:54 -0700, James Chamney wrote: >I have used the following Settings in PINE: > Userid: jcham > Host/Domain: mail.yesic.com > SMTP Server: mail.yesic.com > INBOX: {mail.yesic.com}INBOX > > "Can't connect to mail.yesic.com,143 Refused 10061" The above looks ok, but you need to ask your service provider if they are running the IMAP daemon service. Your error msg looks like they are not. Without them running IMAPd you will not be able to use PC-Pine. Also you should double check the host addresses for SMTP, etc with your provider. >I took another shot at it & changed my INBOX setting >to: {mail.yesic.com/pop3}INBOX PC-Pine does not support the POP3 option. Only Unix Pine does. PC-Pine may support it in a future version but not yet and not soon. If your service provider does not support IMAPd then it probably supports only POP3 and you will have to get/use another mailer pgm. -- ________________________________________________________________________ Ben Parker ............ (Oak Park IL) .......... bparker@interaccess.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 04:27:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00691; Sun, 27 Oct 96 04:27:21 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA15128 for pine-info-out; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 05:22:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA15124 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 05:22:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHUBD-00038TC; Sun, 27 Oct 96 04:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jonathan David Makepeace Subject: Requesting Automatic Message Acknowledgement Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:19:30 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We are running Pine 3.91. Is it possible to configure Pine to request acknowledgement that a message has been received? Thank you. -- Jonathan David Makepeace Original Cataloger/Automation Specialist LSU Libraries, 30 Middleton Tel. (504) 388-3331, Fax. (504) 388-6535 Louisiana State University http://alexia.lis.uiuc.edu/~makepeac/ Baton Rouge, LA 70803-3300 mailto:notjdm@unix1.sncc.lsu.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 04:51:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00865; Sun, 27 Oct 96 04:51:27 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA15379 for pine-info-out; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 05:47:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA15375 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 05:47:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHUYd-00038BC; Sun, 27 Oct 96 04:43 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steven C King Subject: Re: How do i can delete all letter in one touch? Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:47:44 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 20 Oct 1996, Pongsak KANCHANASALATHOOL wrote: > Hello everybody > Sometimes i'm very annoy about junk mail and want to delete them > in one step .What's the way? Thank you. Go to Setup/Config and make sure you have enable-aggregate-command-set checked (or X'ed in this case) in feature-list. Then go back to your mail folder and list the index of the messages on your screen. Then tap ; A A D in that order. Of course, this will mark all your messages 'delete'. If there are specific ones you'd like to keep, you'll need to Undelete those individually. Hope this helps! -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc.} { "The way to do is to be." } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 05:57:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01198; Sun, 27 Oct 96 05:57:48 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA23006 for pine-info-out; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 06:52:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA23002 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 06:52:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHVc2-00038TC; Sun, 27 Oct 96 05:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Scott A. McIntyre" Subject: PC-Pine memory requirements Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 08:28:03 -0500 Message-Id: <32736362.7D69@whoi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, We're in the process of implementing an IMAP based email solution for our institution, but in order to address the needs of machines incapable of running windows/mac clients, we're trying to get PC-Pine 3.95 to work. The problem seems to be that no matter how far we strip down the system and what drivers are loaded and so on that PC-Pine 3.95 will only do the most basic of functions and then seize up with memory problems. I'm not the person doing the PC testing, but the person who is says that she had to reduce the machine to almost no functionality to be able to compose just a simple message, folders and collections were almost out of the question. Is this typical? It seems that it wants about 500k or more to do what it needs to do. For now we're sticking with pine 3.91, but it seems odd that such a glaring error made it to 3.95... Ideas? Scott From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 06:05:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01294; Sun, 27 Oct 96 06:05:50 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA16128 for pine-info-out; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 07:02:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA16124 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 07:02:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHVin-00038BC; Sun, 27 Oct 96 05:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Wyzlic Subject: Re: News with Pine 3.95 on Linux problems Date: 21 Oct 1996 19:00:01 GMT Message-Id: <54gh7h$d7@pwyz.rhein.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Plumbum wrote: : I just installed both binary and source distribution of Pine 3.95 : on my Linux machine running 1.2.8 and connected to the internet with : ethernet. Neither one of them give me news reader option. Is pine for linux : not supporting news? I look at the misc. docs and FAQ's but couldn't find : an answer. Thanks for your time. It does support news! Have you put the correct newsserver in your setup? \bye ########################################################################### Peter Wyzlic pwyzlic@pwyz.rhein.de ########################################################################### From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 07:50:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01999; Sun, 27 Oct 96 07:50:46 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA24239 for pine-info-out; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 08:47:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA24235 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 08:47:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHXMK-00038BC; Sun, 27 Oct 96 07:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: possible pine protocol problem? Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 16:46:21 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 17 Oct 1996, Dean Barnard wrote: > Recently my college changed to pine, and I have approximately 20 folders > with mail messages in the previous system. Is there any way to transfer a > complete folder with its messages to my pine account. Chances are pine can read the existing folders as they are. You don't give enough information, but here we have pine reading mbox's and MH folders happily as well as incoming mail on IMAP and POP3 servers. Pine is THE tool for reading mail on multiple systems and in multiple formats. You don't give enough information about your old system for me to give details, but with luck your sysadms will have figured out what needs to be done. They should set up a default pine.conf which allows you to read folders created by your previous set up. -jeff goldberg -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 08:40:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02337; Sun, 27 Oct 96 08:40:25 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA17821 for pine-info-out; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 09:37:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA17817 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 09:37:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHYDK-00038BC; Sun, 27 Oct 96 08:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Any more info on problems with pine 3.95 and Solaris 2.x? Date: 27 Oct 1996 15:59:11 GMT Message-Id: <5500sf$h25@news.eecs.umich.edu> In addition to being the webmaster of GMI, I am responsible for the installation of almost all the free software on our Sun systems, including netscape, pine, elm, nn and tin among hundreds of others. It seems like once a week someone posts with a problem using pine 3.95 with Solaris 2.x, where x usually equals 5. The only constructive suggestions I have seen are the patch that was posted here, with some caveats, on Sept. 4. There have been enough statements about 2.x where x<5 that I have been nervous about upgrading from Pine 3.91, about which I get zero complaints from hundreds of daily users, to 3.95 which has some additional functionality that I would like to have (only one user has explicitly requested that I upgrade). Up to now it has not been much of an issue because most of our public use SPARCs run Sol 2.4, but we are staging to upgrade our 4/690 server running Sol 2.4, where most of the users run pine, and when the UltraSPARC server comes in we will install the latest version of Solaris (probably 2.5.1 Web) on it and on all the public use SPARCstations except for a few SS10's that have the EOL framebuffers in them. I really need more information than has been forthcoming about the problem. I really hate to stay down rev on pine, but at least the few zombies I get are not unkillable as has been reported with 3.95 on Sol 2.5. Mark Crispin I believe has said something about it being a bug in the Solaris 2.5 streams code, but aside from the very unofficial patch of 9/4/96, and some discussion about changed includes and system calls in 2.5, there have been no constructive discussions. Since some questions have not been answered in the newsgroup, I almost get the impression they are being handled offline and out of sight. What is the state of understanding and workarounds or patches? -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 09:02:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02548; Sun, 27 Oct 96 09:02:05 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA24996 for pine-info-out; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 09:59:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from post-ofc04.srv.cis.pitt.edu (post-ofc04.srv.cis.pitt.edu [136.142.185.11]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA24992 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 09:59:39 -0700 Received: from unixs4.cis.pitt.edu (ilanaber@unixs4.cis.pitt.edu [136.142.185.55]) by post-ofc04.srv.cis.pitt.edu with SMTP (8.8.2/cispo-2.0.1.7) ID for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:54:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:54:54 -0500 (EST) From: Elaine Ber X-Sender: ilanaber@unixs4.cis.pitt.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Lexus Nexus phone listing Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Could you please advise how one can access the phone directory listed by Lexus/Nexus over the net? I know that my parents phone number is listed and don't know how to access it. Thanks Elaine From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 10:44:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03442; Sun, 27 Oct 96 10:44:57 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA26263 for pine-info-out; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:42:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA26259 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:42:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHaAB-00038BC; Sun, 27 Oct 96 10:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Local address pops to To-field Date: 27 Oct 1996 18:28:41 GMT Message-Id: <5509kp$1lq@due.unit.no> References: In article , Mika Siiskonen wrote: > >What i am trying to say is that i don't have any chance to >write the rest of the address (for example hornet.pspt.fi) >because when i have typed msiiskon@ pine makes the rest of >the address automatically (that is msiiskon@khro.fi). > >After that it jumps to Cc-field and writes @-mark there and >the cursor blinks in Cc-field too. I once saw this with someone's terminal software/setting here: the @ key first moves forward one word and then @ appears, as if you had pressed ^-space @. That gives exactly the symptoms you are seeing. Try pressing @ in the body of your message (inside some text.) Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 12:46:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18115; Sun, 27 Oct 96 12:46:03 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA20667 for pine-info-out; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 13:43:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA20663 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 13:43:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHc2t-00038BC; Sun, 27 Oct 96 12:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Koen Claessen Subject: Long waiting times when sending email Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:45:09 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi there, I have a problem with sending email in pine. For some reason, some email addresses take a very long time (sometimes 1 or 2 minutes) to send a message to. I press ^X, en it says "sending email", and I have to wait for 1 minute before I can proceed. The messages are not long, that doesn't matter. Does anybody know how I can let pine do this in the background?? So that I can read/send other email? Regards, Koen. -- | Koen Claessen, kcclaess@cse.ogi.edu. | | http://www.cse.ogi.edu/~kcclaess/ | |------------------------------------------------------| | Visiting student at OGI, Portland, Oregon, USA. | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 14:11:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05576; Sun, 27 Oct 96 14:11:51 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA21847 for pine-info-out; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 15:08:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA21836 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 15:08:05 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA26974; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 14:08:03 -0800 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 14:08:03 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Koen Claessen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Long waiting times when sending email In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does setting smtp-server=localhost help at all? See the release notes for add'l info... -teg On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Koen Claessen wrote: > Hi there, > > I have a problem with sending email in pine. For some reason, some email > addresses take a very long time (sometimes 1 or 2 minutes) to send a > message to. I press ^X, en it says "sending email", and I have to wait for > 1 minute before I can proceed. The messages are not long, that doesn't > matter. > > Does anybody know how I can let pine do this in the background?? So that I > can read/send other email? > > Regards, > Koen. > > -- > | Koen Claessen, kcclaess@cse.ogi.edu. | > | http://www.cse.ogi.edu/~kcclaess/ | > |------------------------------------------------------| > | Visiting student at OGI, Portland, Oregon, USA. | > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 14:25:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02596; Sun, 27 Oct 96 14:25:44 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA29178 for pine-info-out; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 15:23:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA29174 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 15:23:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHdbB-00038TC; Sun, 27 Oct 96 14:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: snakey@wam.umd.edu (David Ross) Subject: Plans to put a password cache in pine? Date: 27 Oct 1996 20:54:25 GMT Message-Id: <550i61$q1g@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> The header says it all... Right now, if your sysadmin hasn't set up rimapd correctly, you are screwed. I have to type my login and password in every few seconds! I don't mind doing once per session, but the way things are set up now is a real pain. If you are reading this and are a pine developer, please do something! =) Thank you! -- David Ross snakey@wam.umd.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 15:00:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06095; Sun, 27 Oct 96 15:00:48 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA22478 for pine-info-out; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 15:58:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA22474 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 15:58:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHe8g-00038TC; Sun, 27 Oct 96 14:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Lexus Nexus phone listing Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 16:56:42 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 27 Oct 1996, Elaine Ber wrote: > Could you please advise how one can access the phone directory listed by > Lexus/Nexus over the net? > > I know that my parents phone number is listed and don't know how to access > it. Interesting question. However, it does not seem to have anything that I can tell to do with Pine, which is what this newsgroup is all about, so please do not be disappointed if you don't get an answer. (You might or you might not. This is not a general anything-about- the-Internet resource newsgroup.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 17:31:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07305; Sun, 27 Oct 96 17:31:30 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA01423 for pine-info-out; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 18:28:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA01419 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 18:28:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHgQv-00038BC; Sun, 27 Oct 96 17:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: command line parameters Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 19:26:19 -0400 Message-Id: References: <326D3B49.70F4@tech.idt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <326D3B49.70F4@tech.idt.net> On Tue, 22 Oct 1996, jim wrote: > is there any way to send email with a command line parameter which would > send it to a specific folder in pine? I take it that you want a copy of your message stored in a particular folder. If you check the online help, you will find that there are two ways to do this. For any one message, when you use the Compose function, there is an Fcc: field in the headers specifying where that particular message is to be stored. You may specify anything you want. If you send to the same address over and over, you may specify in your addressbook where you want the copy to be stored. Check the online help screens. There is a wealth of useful information there (ALL NECOMERS TO THE GROUP, PLEASE NOTE). Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 20:03:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08359; Sun, 27 Oct 96 20:03:36 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA26027 for pine-info-out; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 20:58:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA26023 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 20:58:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHime-00038BC; Sun, 27 Oct 96 19:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Question Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 19:37:53 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 22 Oct 1996, Linda L. Deutsch wrote: > If I should receive a message that has gone to approximately 100 other > people, how can I print a copy of this message without printing the other > 99 names? If there is such a way, I am not aware of it. Perhaps someone else will know. One thing you could do would be to export the message to an external file and edit that to remove the names. However, you would then have to have a way of printing that file outside of Pine. (By the way, it is considered better practice on the Usenet to give your post a more informative Subject: line than just "Question.") Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 20:04:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08440; Sun, 27 Oct 96 20:04:19 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA03161 for pine-info-out; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 20:58:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA03155 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 20:58:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHimj-00038UC; Sun, 27 Oct 96 19:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: mime format Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 19:43:39 -0400 Message-Id: References: <54gnga$h69@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <54gnga$h69@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> On 21 Oct 1996, Ramesh Gunna wrote: > How do you convert a mime formatted mail that u received > back to the original format like ascii or binary. > > Are there any tools to do this and where do I get them. If Pine tells you that there is an attachment to your email -- which is what I suppose you are referring to by "mime formatted mail" -- it will usually tell you whether the file can be viewed or not. If not, you will have the option of saving the attachment in a file. Pine should take care of the conversion for you automatically. (This assumes the attachment was sent in base64 encoding the way Pine itself does it.) If your situation is different, you may need to provide more details. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 20:50:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09385; Sun, 27 Oct 96 20:50:35 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA04628 for pine-info-out; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 21:48:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA04624; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 21:48:07 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA24435; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 20:48:04 -0800 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 20:48:04 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: "Scott A. McIntyre" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC-Pine memory requirements In-Reply-To: <32736362.7D69@whoi.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Scott, You haven't said which version of PC-Pine you are testing. There are huge differences in memory management among the DOS, Win16, and Win32 versions. The DOS version of PC-Pine is the most problematic. Between 3.91 and 3.95 lots of stuff was added, with a corresponding increase in code size. It needs about 15K more than 3.91, at least 500K. We hope to improve on that in the future, but it ain't easy... -teg On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Scott A. McIntyre wrote: > Hello, > > We're in the process of implementing an IMAP based email solution for > our institution, but in order to address the needs of machines incapable > of running windows/mac clients, we're trying to get PC-Pine 3.95 to > work. > > The problem seems to be that no matter how far we strip down the system > and what drivers are loaded and so on that PC-Pine 3.95 will only do the > most basic of functions and then seize up with memory problems. I'm not > the person doing the PC testing, but the person who is says that she had > to reduce the machine to almost no functionality to be able to compose > just a simple message, folders and collections were almost out of the > question. > > Is this typical? It seems that it wants about 500k or more to do what > it needs to do. For now we're sticking with pine 3.91, but it seems odd > that such a glaring error made it to 3.95... > > Ideas? > > Scott > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 00:18:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11162; Mon, 28 Oct 96 00:18:36 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA29765 for pine-info-out; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 01:14:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA29761 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 01:14:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHmnD-00038BC; Mon, 28 Oct 96 00:11 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sing Yeong Kong Subject: Reply to myself Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 18:38:07 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am a user of unix pine. Every time I try to reply to all when my address appears under the cc: portion, I end up replying to myself as well. Is there any way to change this so that I will only reply to everyone else without having to delete off my own address each time? Also, whenever I decide to break up a paragraph in to two by pressing the return key, I find myself having to realign the remaining parts of the paragraph or it will turn out some thing like this. Is there a way so that I do not have to manually realign the rest of the mail line by line? (By the way, in this case, the return key was pressed after the word "find" and before the word "myself") Many Thanks! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 03:29:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13033; Mon, 28 Oct 96 03:29:48 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA02074 for pine-info-out; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 04:22:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from chinet.chinet.com.chinet.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA02070 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 04:22:35 -0700 Received: from localhost by chinet.chinet.com.chinet.com (8.6.10/SMI-4.1) id LAA00967; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:23:01 GMT Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 05:23:00 -0600 (CST) From: Amit Kulkarni To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: editing a sent mail Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi, i want to edit a mail send by me and possibly redirect it to some other destination. the second destination should not know that i have sent the mail to any previous destination. expecting an early reply amit From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 03:47:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13285; Mon, 28 Oct 96 03:47:47 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA02270 for pine-info-out; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 04:42:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA02266 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 04:42:18 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:36:24 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id LAA10792; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:41:43 GMT Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:41:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: Hans Schleichert Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Default composer headers In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" To make additional header available you must add them to the "customized-hdrs" variable in Pine's Setup Configuration screen. You can then see/alter these when composing a message by putting your cursor on any header line and typing ^R (Rich Headers). If you want some headers to appear *by default* in the Composer (instead of typing ^R to get to them) then _also_ add them to the "default-composer-hdrs" variable. Note that if you set a value for the "default-composer-hdrs" variable it *replaces* the default set of headers with (just) the ones you specify. To include the "standard" headers then you need to include them also in the "default-composer-hdrs" variable's value. You may like to check the built-in help for both of these variables in the Setup Configuration screen whilst you're there. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 24 Oct 1996, Hans Schleichert wrote: > I added Return-Receipt-To: and Reply-To: to my default composer headers > but they woin't show. To the opposite, now only default default headers > show up, not even (while composing to a newsgroup) the To: line which is > in my default-composer-headers list. Is this list by some means limited? > > Thanks, > - Hans > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 03:58:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04076; Mon, 28 Oct 96 03:58:48 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA09595 for pine-info-out; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 04:53:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA09591 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 04:53:18 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:45:17 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id LAA13909; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:50:36 GMT Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:50:36 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Sing Yeong Kong Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply to myself In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Your "reply to self" problems are stemming from Pine not recognising your e-mail address in received messages (probably in their "To:" line) as being your own. Because of this it thinks it belongs to someone else, and hence includes it in a "reply to all". You need to persuade Pine that this other e-mail address really is you too... Make an exact note of the your address as it is appears in a message you receive. Now go to Pine's Setup Configuration screen (S then C at the Main Menu) and look down the settings for "alt-addresses". Put your cursor on this variable and type ? to read the built-in help about it. When you have done that you should understand what it's for and how to use it to add the e-mail address you noted down as an alternative for "you". As for word-wrapping... Pine's composer will happily start new lines whenever the current line is full as you type. However it will not automatically re-word-wrap text if you split paragraphs as you describe. (Remember that it is a simple text editor, not a word processor.) However all is not lost: the ^J (Justify) command will re-word-wrap the current paragraph and even out all the line lengths for you. (Note that a paragraph is bounded by blank lines, or ones that are indented.) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 25 Oct 1996, Sing Yeong Kong wrote: > I am a user of unix pine. Every time I try to reply to all when my > address appears under the cc: portion, I end up replying to myself as > well. > > Is there any way to change this so that I will only reply to everyone > else without having to delete off my own address each time? > > Also, whenever I decide to break up a paragraph in to two by pressing the > return key, I find > myself having to realign the remaining parts of the > paragraph or it will turn out some thing like this. Is there a way so that > I do not have to manually realign the rest of the mail line by line? > > (By the way, in this case, the return key was pressed after the word > "find" and before the word "myself") > > Many Thanks! > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 04:17:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13460; Mon, 28 Oct 96 04:17:41 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA10041 for pine-info-out; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 05:13:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA10026 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 05:13:04 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:07:09 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA21077; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:12:25 GMT Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:12:24 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: John de Boer , Ed Greshko Cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Ctrl C ineffective In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" [Tut, tut, Ed ... you're slipping :-) He actually said in his message he was using a Mac, and also that he knew hot to fix it for the current session. :-] John - The problem you describe is nothing to do with Pine per se, but is to do with your communictaions program's settings. Your description of a fix suggests you are using NCSA Telnet (it would have helped if you had said explicitly!). If so then you have two possible solutions, one more general than the other but relies on you being able to change NCSA Telnet's permanent settings preferences file (or persuading your System Administrator to do it). General Method: -------------- Select Edit menu -> Preferences -> Sessions Select and change the session you use (possibly ""). Alter the keys defined there to meet your wishes. (eg, I actually set Interrupt Process to be empty as it will then get passed to the host for handling, rather than Telnet remapping it to an interrupt command within the Telnet protocol) Save the settings. Start a new session to your host and try things out. (The settings in the "Sessions" preferences dialog form the default values which you can subsequently modify for a connected session using Setup menu -> Setup Keys...) These changed settings get stored in NCSA Telnet's own preferences file in your System Folder. If you can't change this, or it gets reset periodically (eg when the Mac is restarted) then you can't use this method yourself (but may be able to persuade the Systems Manager to make the necessary changes). Host-Specific Method: -------------------- Alternatively, try connecting to the host you use and configuring the session's keys appropriately (using Session menu -> Setup Keys...). Now use File menu -> Save set... to save these as a "settings document". Quit Telnet. Now launch Telnet *not* by double-clicking the application, but instead double-clicking the settings document you saved. This should connect you straight to your host ready for you to login with your username and password. It *may* have also saved the changes to the keys as well (check by looking in the Session menu -> Setup Keys... dislog box). [I haven't tried this myself so can't say for certain, but it _may_ work ... it depends on what gets saved in your settings document.] If this works, keep the settings document somewhere convenient and always use that to connect to your host, rather than just docule-clicking the Telnet application. Cheers -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sat, 26 Oct 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Sat, 26 Oct 1996, John de Boer wrote: > > > > > I'm using Pine on a Mac in a university network. > > > > Control C is ineffective. To make it effective, I have to first pull down > > Sessions from the menu bar, click on Set-up keys and then in "Interupt > > Process" chance the default ^C shown, to ^Z. Every time I open Pine. > > > > Is there a way ^Z can be set as default? > > > > PS the pc's on the network do not have this problem. > > Sounds like you are using a MAC. > > I'm not a MACer....but the problem is most likely with your > telnet SW. Are you using the NCSA telnet by any chance? I've heard > there are ways to "fix" your problem....but not being a MACer. > > Does this fit the description of your problem? > > Ed > > -- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 04:55:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13694; Mon, 28 Oct 96 04:55:03 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA10493 for pine-info-out; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 05:51:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com (dekalb.vf.mmc.com [192.35.35.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA10489 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 05:51:31 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.lmco.com ([166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA06962; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:51:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.lmco.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA05540; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:51:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (4.1/LMCO SunOS Server Nondomain-1.1) id AA26938; Mon, 28 Oct 96 07:50:04 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:50:03 -0500 (EST) From: Don Sugarman X-Sender: sugarman@mmpcs1 To: Jonathan David Makepeace Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Requesting Automatic Message Acknowledgement In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 24 Oct 1996, Jonathan David Makepeace wrote: > We are running Pine 3.91. > > Is it possible to configure Pine to request acknowledgement that a > message has been received? > Yes. Add a line to your signature file saying something like: "Please respond by reply mail when you have read this message. Thank you" Hope this helps. :) Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 05:48:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14224; Mon, 28 Oct 96 05:48:34 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA11164 for pine-info-out; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 06:45:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA11160 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 06:45:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHrwJ-00038BC; Mon, 28 Oct 96 05:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andy Subject: Help! Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:56:49 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, It is possible to get unix Pine to trace how it sends the mails.. e.g. the route they were sent? Just curious... If you can help give me a mail! Thanks Andy From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 06:04:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14079; Mon, 28 Oct 96 06:04:40 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA04042 for pine-info-out; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:00:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA04038 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:00:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHsBt-00038BC; Mon, 28 Oct 96 05:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: Reply to myself Date: 25 Oct 1996 19:03:17 GMT Message-Id: <54r2tl$qv5@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article , Sing Yeong Kong writes: > Also, whenever I decide to break up a paragraph in to two by pressing the > return key, I find > myself having to realign the remaining parts of the > paragraph or it will turn out some thing like this. Is there a way so that > I do not have to manually realign the rest of the mail line by line? Do a control-J (^j) while the cursor is in a paragraph will "fill" that paragraph, and the cursor will move to the beginning of the next paragraph. It is very handy (this works Pico also). Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == PGP key: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 06:37:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14597; Mon, 28 Oct 96 06:37:05 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA11727 for pine-info-out; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:30:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA11723 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:30:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHsgU-00038BC; Mon, 28 Oct 96 06:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: I LOVE PINE!!! Date: 28 Oct 1996 14:15:02 GMT Message-Id: <552f56$hah@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: <32714b66.145674198@news.tds.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <550i2o$roh@news.cdsnet.net>, julie@cdsnet.net (Julie) writes: > I'm sorry I have the same Question and also, I have 3 POP acct.s and I > want to set up Pine for all three e-mail address, if I can. First, I remember that PC-Pine does not do POP3 yet. You can use other applications for POP3. Some are freeware. Pine is good for IMAP. Second, Pine does not do incoming mail sorting (some people call it filtering), at the time being. I am not sure if it ever will. Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == PGP key: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:43:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15679; Mon, 28 Oct 96 07:43:57 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA12804 for pine-info-out; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:38:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA12800 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:38:47 -0700 From: Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 28 Oct 96 23:36:45 +0800 Priority: Normal To: "Mike Brudenell" Cc: "John de Boer" , "Pine Info Mailing List" Subject: Re: Re: Ctrl C ineffective X-Mailer: VistaMAIL for Windows - Version 6.3.0 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 96 23:20:36 +0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-Id: <3274d30e30d5006@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> > On 96.10.28 20:12, "Mike Brudenell" wrote: > [Tut, tut, Ed ... you're slipping :-) > He actually said in his message he was using a Mac, and also that he knew > hot to fix it for the current session. :-] OK....I'll stop trying to answer questions from hotel rooms in Japan where the dialup charges cause a "rush to judgement". See you in 3 weeks. Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:47:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15859; Mon, 28 Oct 96 07:47:40 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA05453 for pine-info-out; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:40:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA05449 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:40:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHtn6-00038UC; Mon, 28 Oct 96 07:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: TZ and standard time Date: 28 Oct 1996 10:28:49 -0500 Message-Id: I've got TZ set to EST5EDT on both Unix: setenv TZ EST5EDT and DOS: set TZ=EST5EDT But on both systems my messages are being sent out as EDT. How do I specify that it's now EST? Thanks, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 09:02:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18385; Mon, 28 Oct 96 09:02:29 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA14424 for pine-info-out; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 09:55:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA14419 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 09:55:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHuwC-00038BC; Mon, 28 Oct 96 08:53 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: down-loading mail files Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:48:02 -0500 Message-Id: References: <551gt2$oh8@oly.olympic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <551gt2$oh8@oly.olympic.net> On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Ernest Behrle wrote: > I'm interested in down-loading mail files from the "home" directory > into my computer. How do I go about this? > Thanks for any info. > Ernie Sorry, but you have not given us anywhere near enough information to work from. There are many, many variables, and they all add up to different solutions depending on what your configuration is. My first recommendation is to ask a Help Desk or User Information Center, if one is available to you. If one is not, you will need to provide us with fairly complete inforation on your configuration before we can help you. (Too much information is better than too little.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:36:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24444; Mon, 28 Oct 96 12:36:04 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA13524 for pine-info-out; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:30:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA13520 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:30:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHyIy-00038BC; Mon, 28 Oct 96 12:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: PCPine and multiple windows Date: 28 Oct 1996 11:08:02 -0500 Message-Id: References: <54rob4$8kb@saturn.pure.com> davidk@pure.com (David Kafrissen) writes: >Can I have mulitple composition and reading windows open at the same time? > >Is there a different between the 16 and 32 bit versions of PCPine? I don't think it's possible in 16-bit PC-Pine but I would love it if it were! -Nancy (who always has at least 3 windows with Pine running, but, unfortunately 2 are Unix Pines) -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:25:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13533; Mon, 28 Oct 96 13:25:48 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA22499 for pine-info-out; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:22:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from metz.une.edu.au (metz.une.edu.au [129.180.1.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA22494 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:22:52 -0800 Received: from localhost (jdeboer@localhost) by metz.une.edu.au (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id IAA16370 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:22:50 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:22:50 +1100 (EST) From: John de Boer To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Ctrl C ineffective In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello Preliminary info only. I obtained three solutions to Ctrl C ineffective on Mac, Pine on Telnet NTSC. Two are temporary solutions. One may be permanent but not yet checked out. I'll post all solutions after checked out. Thanks a lot. Is this a discusssion group? I'd appreciate subscribing details please. Again, thanks a lot. Rgds John de Boer ####################################################################### E-mail: jdeboer@metz.une.edu.au Tel/Direct:(067) 73 2639 Tel (24 hr voice mail): (02) 9975 3777 Mail: PO Box U140, University of New England, Armidale 2351, Australia ####################################################################### MOUNTAINBIKING? Rides through formidable, majestic national parks around Armidale - enjoying nature or just "careering" down fire trails? It's wonderful. Marvellous. Incredible. - Call me when you're ready to go. ####################################################################### From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:02:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26659; Mon, 28 Oct 96 14:02:00 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA23392 for pine-info-out; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:55:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA23388 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:55:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vHze1-00038TC; Mon, 28 Oct 96 13:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Pine - a Program for Internet News & Email Date: 28 Oct 1996 10:57:51 -0500 Message-Id: References: It's great to see the Pine FAQ posted to the *.answers groups so it will be archived on all the FAQ servers. I have a few comments. * How about including `FAQ' in the subject - that way people will be able to easily tell that it's the FAQ. A possibility is: FAQ for PINE: A Program for Internet News & Email > Filtering Mail FAQ (by Nancy McGough) at one of the following > locations: > > http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/ > faq.html > http://www.smartpages.com/faqs/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html > ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering_mail_faq.txt Instead of the three URLs above, please give these two URLs which are mirrors of my Filtering Mail FAQ "Launcher": http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ http://www.best.com/~ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ The launcher gives users access to different versions of the FAQ on many different servers around the world. Thanks, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:50:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27366; Mon, 28 Oct 96 14:50:07 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA24693 for pine-info-out; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:45:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu (lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.7.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA24689 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:45:40 -0800 Received: from localhost (br@localhost) by lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu (8.8.2/8.8.0) with SMTP id RAA22586; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 17:43:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 17:43:04 -0500 (EST) From: Pulp Fiction To: Mike Brudenell Cc: Hans Schleichert , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: mailing ones mother ! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Return-Receipt: br@acsu.buffalo.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-851401618-846542584=:22484" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-851401618-846542584=:22484 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Peace Love & Respect ..... Jaz ....... ---559023410-851401618-846542584=:22484 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=mother Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: SGksDQoNCkkgbmVlZCB0byBzZW5kIGEgZW1haWwgdG8gbXkgbW90aGVyLCB3 aGljaCBpcyByZWxhdGl2ZWx5IGltcG9ydGFudCwNCm9uIENvbXB1c2VydmUs IGJ1dCBhcyB5b3UgbWF5IGhhdmUgaGVhcmQsIHRoZXkndmUgYSBwcm9ibGVt LCBiZWNhdXNlIHRoZWlyDQplbWFpbCBpcyBkZWxldGVkIGFmdGVyIGEgaG91 ciwgb3Igc2hlIGhhcyBoZXIgYWNjb3VudCBzZXQgdXAgbGlrZSB0aGF0IQ0K DQpJIGhhdmUgd3JpdHRlbiBhIHNjcmlwdCB0byBhdXRvbWF0aWNhbGx5IHNl bmQgb25lIGVtYWlsIGVhY2ggaG91ciB0byB0aGF0DQphZGRyZXNzLiBDYW4g eW91IHBsZWFzZSBjaGVjayBpdCBmb3IgbWUuDQoNCldoYXQgaSB3YW50IGlz IHRoaXM6DQoNCkVtYWlsIFggc2VudCBlYWNoIGhvdXIgdW50aWwgNXBtLCBv ciB3aGF0ZXZlciB0aW1lLCB0aGVuIHRoYXQgWCBtYWlsIHNlbnQNCnRvIG15 IGVtYWlsIHRvIHRoZSBCaW4gZGlyZWN0b3J5LCB0aGVuIGF0IDVwbSwgYWxs IGVtYWlscyB3aXRoaW4gQmluIGFyZQ0KZGVsZXRlZC4gQmluIGlzIG9uIG15 IGFjY291bnQuDQoNCkkgd2FudCB0aGlzIHRvIGJlIGRvbmUgYXV0b21hdGlj YWxseS4gVGhhbmtzICwgSSBhcHByZWNpYXRlIHRoaXMgLi4uLi4NCg0KTXkg dmVyc2lvbiBpcyAoYXV0bykNCg0KIyEgL2Jpbi9zaA0KV0hJTEUgVFJVRTsg IERPDQpNQUlMIFggL34vTUFJTC9CSU4NClNMRUVQIDM2MDANCkRPTkUNCkVO RA0KDQp0aGVuIGNobW9kIDc1NSBhdXRvDQoNCm9yIGF0IG5vdyArIDEgaG91 ciA6fCBtYWlsIHBlcnNvbkBtYWNoaW5lLmVkdSA8IGZpbGVtYW5lX3dpdGhf ZnVsbF9wYXRoIGlzDQphIHF1aWNrIGFuZCBkaXJ0eSBtZXRob2QuLi4NCg0K QWxzbyBJIGtlZXAgZ2V0dGluZyBwb3JvIGVtYWlsIGZyb20gIlZpcnR1YWwg Q29ycCIgYSBjb21wdXRlciBjb21wYW55LCBJDQphbSBTSUNLIG9mIGl0LCBh bmQgaXZlIHRvbGQgdGhlbSB0aHJlZSB0aW1lcyBhbHJlYWR5IG5vLiBaYWNo IGlzIHRoZXJlIGENCndheSB3aGVyZSBJIGNhbiBzZW5kIGEgZmlsZSwgc2F5 IDEwMCB0aW1lcyB0byB0aGUgc2FtZSBwZXJzb24sIFBMRUFTRSBEVURFDQp0 aGFua3MNCg0KSW0gdXNpbmcgdW5peCBzeXN0ZW0gViByZWxlYXNlIElWDQoN CglQZWFjZSBMb3ZlICYgUmVzcGVjdCAgLi4uLi4gICBKYXogLi4uLi4uLg0K DQo= ---559023410-851401618-846542584=:22484-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:58:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27961; Mon, 28 Oct 96 14:58:28 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA24925 for pine-info-out; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:54:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from slowhand.icu.ac.jp (slowhand.icu.ac.jp [192.218.241.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA24921 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:54:02 -0800 Received: from yamata.icu.ac.jp (g979021@yamata.icu.ac.jp [192.218.243.2]) by slowhand.icu.ac.jp (8.7.4/3.4W2TK 03/06/96) with ESMTP id HAA10927 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:56:50 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (g979021@localhost) by yamata.icu.ac.jp (8.7.6/3.4W2TK 03/27/96) with SMTP id HAA02039 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:53:17 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:53:17 +0900 (JST) From: FOONG Pek Lan To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine system problem In-Reply-To: <9610281030.AA14617@docserver.cac.washington.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The recent update of pine system in my university had made it unable for me to read or write email on my computer. All emails are converted into machine fonts - including the pine manual. I cannot get assistance from my university computer center because students are not on the priority list but I need excess to email urgently. Please advice. My computer terminal is a power Macintosh 6200. Thank You. Sincerely Pek Lan, Foong From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 17:10:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31772; Mon, 28 Oct 96 17:10:24 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA28769 for pine-info-out; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 17:05:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from paknet1.ptc.pk ([203.135.0.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA28747 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 17:05:00 -0800 Received: from localhost by paknet1.ptc.pk; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/14Apr96-0132PM) id AA06315; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 06:04:35 +0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 06:04:35 +0500 (GMT+0500) From: "[Atif Anwar Mirza]" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Info required Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, Please tell me, I'm using Pine 3.93 and created a distribuuution list in address book. Now when i send an e-mail to distribution list it add all the addresses to To: field. What i want is to shortened the to field and send the e-mail to all useeers also. I want to short the to fieeld because it is a very large list and 3 to 4 pages are wasted with to field. TIU Reply ASAP. A TTTTT IIIII FFFFF Atif Anwar Mirza A A T I F atif@aanwar.brain.net.pk(E-mail) AAAAA T I FFF atif@anwar.lhr.erum.com.pk(E-mail) A A T I F amirza@brain.net.pk(Graphical Live) A A T I F atifma@paknet1.ptc.pk(Text Live) A A T IIIII F aanwar@genius.brain.net.pk(Text Live) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 17:51:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32496; Mon, 28 Oct 96 17:51:31 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id RAA22141 for pine-info-out; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 17:46:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA22137 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 17:46:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vI3Bv-00038WC; Mon, 28 Oct 96 17:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: How to send group mail Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:44:39 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 22 Oct 1996, kamran sultan wrote: > I am a new pine user and I would like to know how to send one mail message > to a group of people at the same time. Please reply if you know how to do > this. Go into your addressbook screen and read the online help about distribution lists. This will allow you to send a single email to as many people as you want with a single entry on the To: line when you compose a message. You only need to set up a distribution list once in order to use it over and over. However, when you compose your message, you may include multiple recipients just by typing in all the addresses separated by commas. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 19:31:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01102; Mon, 28 Oct 96 19:31:50 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA01282 for pine-info-out; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 19:26:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from somnet.sandia.gov (somnet.sandia.gov [132.175.109.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA01278 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 19:26:41 -0800 Received: (from wllarso@localhost) by somnet.sandia.gov (8.6.10/8.6.10) id UAA27767; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 20:26:38 -0700 From: "William L. Larson (Bill)" Message-Id: <199610290326.UAA27767@somnet.sandia.gov> Subject: Wanted, Pine configuration suggestions To: info-cyrus@andrew.cmu.edu, imap@cac.washinton.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 20:26:38 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need to install Pine as a mail client on a "sealed" system. By "sealed", I mean that there will be no user accounts and access to Pine will be via a captive login account. Access to a user's mail will be made with IMAP on a Cyrus IMAP server. I would appreciate any suggestions as to how to best accomplish this. Reading through the pine-info archives, there has been mention of this, but never a description of how to accomplish it. I know that I can't be the first person to do this, so any assistance would be appreciated. Please note the heavy cross-posting that I have done. You may want to edit where you reply to to avoid unnecessary clutter. Please reply directly to me since I do NOT actually subscribe to all of these lists. If anyone feels a summary is appropriate, I would be more than happy to summarize the responses I receive. Thanks, Bill Larson (wllarso@sandia.gov) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 20:30:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00837; Mon, 28 Oct 96 20:30:26 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA02180 for pine-info-out; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 20:26:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA02174 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 20:26:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vI5ga-00038BC; Mon, 28 Oct 96 20:21 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: massato@panix.com Subject: [Q] Trying to transfer RTF files with AOL Date: 28 Oct 1996 21:51:05 -0500 Message-Id: <553rep$99k@panix3.panix.com> Is there any way to send Rich Text Format files as a MIME attachment that is NOT in type TEXT/PLAIN? I'm trying to send an RTF file to an AOL user. What happens is that the TEXT/PLAIN attachment simply gets viewed in-line, and the other person can't download it as a separate RTF file. What I'd like to do is force my e-mailer to attach it as "type APPLICATION/octet-stream". I assume this would make things more straight forward on the AOL end--the person could simply download the attachment as a regular file. I am using pine, and I can't figure out how to change the default "format guessing" that gets used with MIME attachments. I also have the option to use elm or Eudora for Win, though I ran into the same problems with both. With the net being so convenient in many ways, it's weird to find that a simple file transfer can be a major headache. Please e-mail or reply in the NG if you have some pointers. Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 21:02:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02163; Mon, 28 Oct 96 21:02:03 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA25138 for pine-info-out; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 20:56:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA25134 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 20:56:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vI6D2-00038TC; Mon, 28 Oct 96 20:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Simon Oldfield Subject: [Q] PC-Pine 3.95 printing Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:36:40 -1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am trying to print messages from PC-Pine 3.95 (Win 3.11) to an IBM "Lexmark 4039" LaserPrinter. I have set the Print-Formfeed-Between-Messages option from the configuration screen, but when I print more than one message they come out on the same page. There is a small "." type character in between the messages so it looks as though the printer doesn't understand what pine is outputting as a formfeed. Any ideas ? Please reply by email to S.Oldfield@nla.gov.au. Thanks in advance Simon Oldfield _____________________________________________________________________ Simon Oldfield Email: S.Oldfield@nla.gov.au CSC Australia Phone: +61-6-262-1128 A Unit of Computer Sciences Corporation Fax: +61-6-273-2116 _____________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:01:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02646; Mon, 28 Oct 96 22:01:52 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA25944 for pine-info-out; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 21:58:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA25940 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 21:58:15 -0800 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 28 OCT 96 21:58:08 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 21:58:08 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode Reply-To: Linda Emerson To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: Printing Problems Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've been putting off this question, hoping to resolve the problem on my own, but I haven't had any luck. Whenever I attempt to print a message using ^Y (attached-to-ansi set in config file), everything cooks along just fine, my software (Procomm Plus/Windows) indicates that it's operating in "dedicated print mode", but just when the job is about to print, I get an HP msg indicating a printer port problem. When I look at Print Manager, I see that the printer (HP DeskJet 540) is in "pause" mode & to resume the print job only sends up the same port problem message again. Some info that might be helpful: I'm using Pine 3.94 (didn't have this problem with the previous version), my comm port is COM2 & my printer is LPT1. Any suggestions would be most appreciated. I've already tried disabling Print Manager but ended up with the same problem. Many, many thanks! ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:30:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03004; Mon, 28 Oct 96 22:30:18 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA03739 for pine-info-out; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:27:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from where.why.net (where.why.net [205.240.252.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA03735 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:27:07 -0800 Received: from why157.why.net ([206.160.171.31]) by where.why.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11525) with SMTP id AAA225 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:25:11 -0600 Received: by why157.why.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BBC52F.E4D4B2A0@why157.why.net>; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:26:57 -0600 Message-Id: <01BBC52F.E4D4B2A0@why157.why.net> From: carydc@why.net (carydc) To: "'pine-info@cac.washington.edu'" Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:25:30 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscrib pine-info carydc@why.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:20:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04221; Tue, 29 Oct 96 00:20:29 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA27893 for pine-info-out; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:11:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from metz.une.edu.au (metz.une.edu.au [129.180.1.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA27888 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:11:07 -0800 Received: from localhost (jdeboer@localhost) by metz.une.edu.au (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id TAA12601; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 19:10:35 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 19:10:35 +1100 (EST) From: John de Boer To: Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com Cc: Mike Brudenell , Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Re: Ctrl C ineffective In-Reply-To: <3274d30e30d5006@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII OK guys Just want to thank you bothed and Mike. As I said in an earlier mail, I've got some solutuinbs and I'll post to the list and to Pine. I worked in Japan and travelled there from Australia frequently over a periof of about 15 years. Have you tried the Imperial hotel, Ed? Not one of the newest, but certainly one of the top. Big rooms, reasonable rates and very comfortable. In Japanese: Teikoku hotel. ot convenient to subway, but near Ginsa so you can waddle back to the hoteel after a night of eating and drinking (-: On Mon, 28 Oct 1996 Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com wrote: > > On 96.10.28 20:12, "Mike Brudenell" wrote: > > > [Tut, tut, Ed ... you're slipping :-) > > He actually said in his message he was using a Mac, and also that he knew > > hot to fix it for the current session. :-] > > OK....I'll stop trying to answer questions from hotel rooms in > Japan where the dialup charges cause a "rush to judgement". See you > in 3 weeks. > > Ed > > ----- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > Rgds John de Boer ####################################################################### E-mail: jdeboer@metz.une.edu.au Tel/Direct:(067) 73 2639 Tel (24 hr voice mail): (02) 9975 3777 Mail: PO Box U140, University of New England, Armidale 2351, Australia ####################################################################### MOUNTAINBIKING? Rides through formidable, majestic national parks around Armidale - enjoying nature or just "careering" down fire trails? It's wonderful. Marvellous. Incredible. - Call me when you're ready to go. ####################################################################### From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 01:34:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04823; Tue, 29 Oct 96 01:34:40 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA06113 for pine-info-out; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 01:26:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from odin.cbu.edu (odin.cbu.edu [198.78.128.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA06109 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 01:26:08 -0800 Received: from [198.78.131.4] by odin.cbu.edu (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/23Jul96-1045PM) id AA01989; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 03:25:48 -0600 Message-Id: <3275CD20.12B5@ODIN.CBU.EDU> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 03:23:44 -0600 From: allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: attachments X-Url: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/current/msg00149.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, how do I view attachments that my friends have sent me through their emails...I have a lot of pictures and images that I can't view becuase my viewer always says - can't view, save to be view later, but I'm a user of Odin and by just looking at the program for odin, I don't see how you would be able to view anything anyway, it's seems to me to be only for emails.... help..... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 02:41:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05576; Tue, 29 Oct 96 02:41:29 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA06837 for pine-info-out; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 02:34:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA06833 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 02:34:07 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:28:28 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA13585; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:33:51 GMT Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:33:50 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: John de Boer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Ctrl C ineffective In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Yes, this is a discussion group. You can read/participate in it in either of two ways: * By joining a mailing list (Pine-Info), or * By reading a Usenet News group (comp.mail.pine) The two are equivalent because a bi-directional gateway sends copies of messages sent to one across to the other. If you don't mind being bombarded by messages the Pine-Info mailing list may well provide the most rapid response, whereas the vagaries of Usenet News may mean that articles take a while to reach you. However Usenet News has the advantage that if you are busy or away for a while your mailbox doesn't grow huge! :-) If you wish to join the Pine-Info mailing list you can find out more ab out it at the Pine Information Centre on the Web: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ In particular, how to join is explained at: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/subscribing.html An archive of past messages (which is searchable) is also available there. This is a useful place to start a search for information if you have a prticular problem or question. The comp.mail.pine newsgroup should be available on most sites' Usenet News servers. If it is then you can use your favourite newsreading program (Pine?) to join in. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 29 Oct 1996, John de Boer wrote: > Hello > > Preliminary info only. I obtained three solutions to Ctrl C ineffective > on Mac, Pine on Telnet NTSC. Two are temporary solutions. One may be > permanent but not yet checked out. I'll post all solutions after checked > out. Thanks a lot. > > Is this a discusssion group? I'd appreciate subscribing details please. > Again, thanks a lot. > > Rgds > > John de Boer From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 02:55:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05737; Tue, 29 Oct 96 02:55:00 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA29864 for pine-info-out; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 02:48:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA29860 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 02:48:49 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:42:17 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA17712; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:47:37 GMT Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:47:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "[Atif Anwar Mirza]" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Info required In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" The best way of using distribution lists is to: ...start composing your message ...put your cursor on a header line and then type ^R to see the Rich Headers ...put the distribution list's nickname onto the "Lcc:" field ...enter a Subject and the Message Text before sending the message. Note that you don't need to put anything into the "To:" field; filling in the "Lcc:: field will put the descriptive name of the distribution list in there automatically in a special way. However I can't recall whether the "Lcc:" field was rpesent in the (old) version 3.93 of Pine. (The current version is 3.95; you may like to upgrade as it has many new features and some bug-fixes.) If "Lcc:" isn't present in your version of Pine put the distribution list nickname into the "Cc:" field instead. However in this case you will need to put in a value for the "To:" field by hand. Set this to a short description followed by ":;" (eg, "List of recipients:;") Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 29 Oct 1996, [Atif Anwar Mirza] wrote: > Hello, > Please tell me, I'm using Pine 3.93 and created a distribuuution list > in address book. Now when i send an e-mail to distribution list it add all > the addresses to To: field. What i want is to shortened the to field and > send the e-mail to all useeers also. I want to short the to fieeld because > it is a very large list and 3 to 4 pages are wasted with to field. > > TIU > Reply ASAP. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:26:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06381; Tue, 29 Oct 96 04:26:05 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA08257 for pine-info-out; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:22:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA08253 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:22:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vID9n-00038TC; Tue, 29 Oct 96 04:20 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: heitkamp@amiga1.fred.org (Frederick V. Heitkamp) Subject: IMAP timeout in news? Date: 29 Oct 1996 11:42:32 GMT Message-Id: <554qj8$2b0i$1@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> I get an error when trying to connect to the news server over nntp. The error is "rsh to IMAP server timed out". How do I fix this? -- ################################################################# # Fred Heitkamp # # Linux m68k/i486 AmigaOS OS/2 Warp # # fheitka@ibm.net fheitkamp@worldnet.att.net # ################################################################# From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:59:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06650; Tue, 29 Oct 96 04:59:56 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA08607 for pine-info-out; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:56:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA08603 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:56:26 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:50:14 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA12746; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:55:34 GMT Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:55:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: "Frederick V. Heitkamp" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP timeout in news? In-Reply-To: <554qj8$2b0i$1@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" It sounds like you haven't got Pine configured to use NNTP, but are using the default IMAP protocol. The simplest way to set up a news server with an NNTP type connection is: * Set the "nntp-server" variable to the IP address of your news server. * DON'T set the "news-collections" variable to anything (or set it to an empty string if your System Administrator has set a systemwide default for it). [A news collection is _implicitly_ defined by setting the nntp-server variable but leaving the news-collections one unset.] If you do want/have to set a news-collections value make sure you incluide the /nntp switch to tell Pine to use NNTP rather than IMAP. Check the built-in help or documentation which accompanies Pine for more details. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 29 Oct 1996, Frederick V. Heitkamp wrote: > I get an error when trying to connect to the news server > over nntp. The error is "rsh to IMAP server timed out". > How do I fix this? > > -- > ################################################################# > # Fred Heitkamp # > # Linux m68k/i486 AmigaOS OS/2 Warp # > # fheitka@ibm.net fheitkamp@worldnet.att.net # > ################################################################# > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:58:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08203; Tue, 29 Oct 96 07:58:21 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA10929 for pine-info-out; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:53:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jobim.crhc.uiuc.edu (jobim.crhc.uiuc.edu [128.174.193.23]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA10925 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:53:18 -0800 Received: from localhost (bagchi@localhost) by jobim.crhc.uiuc.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA26133; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:52:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:52:28 -0600 (CST) From: Saurabh Bagchi To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: bagchi@uiuc.edu Subject: Pine error. Help wanted. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When I try opening a newsgroup using pine, it gives the message: "No permission to talk. Goodbye." and doesnot open the newsgroup. What change do I need to make in the .pinerc file. Please give the required information and oblige. - Thanks, Saurabh. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:41:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10396; Tue, 29 Oct 96 08:41:19 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA11938 for pine-info-out; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:36:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ccug.wlv.ac.uk (ccug.wlv.ac.uk [134.220.1.12]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA11824 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:34:18 -0800 Received: from ma154-bj.wlv.ac.uk by ccug.wlv.ac.uk with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0vIH7H-000oLnC; Tue, 29 Oct 96 16:34 GMT From: george xinari To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Hi Ceaser!! Message-Id: Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:33:56 -0500 (EST) Priority: NORMAL X-Mailer: Simeon for Windows X-Authentication: IMSP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Hello Ceaser, My name is George Xinari and I am a great fan of yours. I followed you since you were at Kiss FM. I'm at the University of Wolverhampton now which means that I can no longer listen to you on Capital Gold because I can't pick it up in Wolves. I miss your fantastic show. I was thinking of asking you for some advise. I don't want to go deeply into it yet,but because your a Greek Cypriot like myself I think that you might be able to relate to my current tricky situation and give me some advise. I would appreciate ti so much if you could reply to me so I know your thre before I tell you my problem. If your not interested because you get these sort of emails all the time, then please at least write me a short message telling me to piss off..........but I'd rather you reply. I can't phone you now, and this is the only way I can contact you...please help Ceaser!! From a real fan, fellow Greek Cypriot and fellow Spurs supporter. George. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:41:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31582; Tue, 29 Oct 96 08:41:37 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA11942 for pine-info-out; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:36:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA11863 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:34:54 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:20:07 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id QAA12925; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:25:30 GMT Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:25:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Saurabh Bagchi Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, bagchi@uiuc.edu Subject: Re: Pine error. Help wanted. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Basically you need to use another news server. Or ask the administrator of the news server you are currently using to give your machine access to it. At the moment the news server software is configured to not allow your machine to read or post articles. The error message you quote is actually not from Pine itself, but from the News Server software (and Pine is merely reporting to you the error message it received). cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 29 Oct 1996, Saurabh Bagchi wrote: > > When I try opening a newsgroup using pine, it gives the message: > > "No permission to talk. Goodbye." > > and doesnot open the newsgroup. > > What change do I need to make in the .pinerc file. Please give the > required information and oblige. > > - Thanks, > Saurabh. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:12:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12739; Tue, 29 Oct 96 10:12:00 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA14589 for pine-info-out; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:08:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA14583 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:08:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vIIWj-00038BC; Tue, 29 Oct 96 10:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Duncan Milburn Subject: Auto-save-read-messages to ??? Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:19:13 +0000 Message-Id: <846605953.11512.0@bsmcha1.biochem.ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have set up the auto-save-read-messages to a single folder without problems. Does anybody know if I can set the read-messages default folder to a variable ie. the same as my saved messages which is "by-from"?(sorts received mail by who it is from). I have tried this directly and it asks to create folder "by-from". Is this possible? I am using (Unix) Pine 3.93. Many thanks for any help in advance. Duncan Milburn From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:10:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14982; Tue, 29 Oct 96 11:10:00 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id LAA08858 for pine-info-out; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:03:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA08854 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:03:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vIJPj-00038UC; Tue, 29 Oct 96 11:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Requesting Automatic Message Acknowledgement Date: 29 Oct 1996 17:37:20 GMT Message-Id: <555fcg$bt3@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: Jonathan David Makepeace writes: >On 28 Oct 1996, Don Sugarman wrote: >> On Thu, 24 Oct 1996, Jonathan David Makepeace wrote: >> >> > Is it possible to configure Pine to request acknowledgement that a >> > message has been received? >> >> Yes. Add a line to your signature file saying something like: >> "Please respond by reply mail when you have read this message. Thank you" >On our old VM system people could automatically request that they receive >an automatic acknowledgement message when a message recipient opened up a >message for reading. I expect that that was only true between local VM >users, but people are asking me whether Pine has a similar functionality. >If it does nobody seems to know about it. Did you read my previous reply? I said that many mainframe and PC packages offer this privacy invading feature, but that it is not part of the Internet standard. >-- Jonathan David Makepeace Original Cataloger/Automation Specialist > LSU Libraries, 30 Middleton Tel. (504) 388-3331, Fax. (504) 388-6535 > Louisiana State University http://alexia.lis.uiuc.edu/~makepeac/ > Baton Rouge, LA 70803-3300 mailto:notjdm@unix1.sncc.lsu.edu -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:41:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17503; Tue, 29 Oct 96 12:41:26 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA11471 for pine-info-out; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:36:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from orion.deusto.es (orion.deusto.es [130.206.100.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA11467 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:36:19 -0800 Received: from [] ([130.206.101.125]) by orion.deusto.es (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA05246 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 05:39:48 +0100 Message-Id: <199610300439.FAA05246@orion.deusto.es> From: "Paul Elliot Tiffer" Organization: Universidad de Deusto To: Pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 21:46:18 +0100 Subject: More information. Reply-To: tiffer@der.deusto.es X-Confirm-Reading-To: tiffer@der.deusto.es X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Hello: Today I recipt your message, with more information, and now I m going to try to read the firt message; becouse I need enough time to read in english, like you can see, I have a poor english but I promess you try to read this. It will be a challenge for me. I have a question, how do you have my email number ? or how do know about me ? Sincerely, Paul. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:49:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17917; Tue, 29 Oct 96 12:49:50 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA18752 for pine-info-out; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:40:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acad.udallas.edu (acad.udallas.edu [192.91.253.11]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA18748 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:40:17 -0800 Received: by acad.udallas.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA48519; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 14:41:20 -0600 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 14:41:19 -0600 (CST) From: CATHOLIC BIBLE COMMENTARY To: Info Pine Subject: exporting problem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear friend, I am having trouble exporting from pine. I am working on a MAC Centris 650 computer. I select a file I would like to export by moving the cursor to highlight it, type the "E" command, and fill in the name of the file into which to export the e-mail message. I have done this several times, and so in subsequent times the program informs me that the file with the name I designated already exists and it asks whether I want to overwrite or append to it. But then when I use the "Retrieve it" program to search for the string corresponding to the name of the file that I assigned, whether I have it search among file names only, or in all file names, data and resources, it finds no such string. Needless to say, ability to the use the export command would greatly increase the efficiency of operations in our office. I hope that I have not misdirected this inquiry. If I have, please accept my apology and send a brief reply to that effect. Otherwise, I will look forward to receiving any information you may have to help me in this matter. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 14:20:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21170; Tue, 29 Oct 96 14:20:09 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA21683 for pine-info-out; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 14:15:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vela.acs.oakland.edu (vela.acs.oakland.edu [141.210.10.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id OAA21673 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 14:15:47 -0800 Received: from localhost (dmburdic@localhost) by vela.acs.oakland.edu (8.7.6/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA09994 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:15:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:15:45 -0500 (EST) From: Dolores Burdick To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Flagging incoming mail (+) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We just went onto PINE 3.95 today, and I am missing one lovely feature: the plus-sign that flagged incoming mail. Within a given folder, this feature gives a very valuable quick-view of the volume of mail that has been received versus sent-out (within that folder.) Can someone tell me if there is any way of getting that feature back?? It's sad when "upgrading" includes the loss of a feature a lot of people may enjoy--while adding lots of features that some of us can't even apprehend, let alone USE. (Maybe users should VOTE!!!) HOW I MISS THOSE PLUS-SIGNS!! AM I THE ONLY ONE??? --Dolores From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:03:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21200; Tue, 29 Oct 96 15:03:55 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA22902 for pine-info-out; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 14:59:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA22892 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 14:59:47 -0800 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr42.interl.net [205.244.161.42]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA16666 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:57:42 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA03718 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:59:44 -0600 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:59:43 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: pine-info Subject: Pine for X? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I'm very happy runing Pine under Linux, but I was wondering if there might be a future version of Pine compiled for XFree86. True, Pine in an Xterm works wonderfully, but what about a pretty version of that? ;-) Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMnaMUCGB07hAGnFhAQEHgwQA+DWVngakFD218QJCZfK1EqCt1LmUZvrR VkpGE16dde8IlN/+CHUV/QkkTn9liLwpeth3rnhwd7AeAw9Cvh6AG3UG1WBTuCE7 DyDwB84zpI+XPe9S4oo2ciTLZ5dFcwUL/HSB64O/tBIs7ecKPVzkCPxoiSRvp+MK a5PGD806xik= =gwIi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, @interl.net, @geocities.com Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:09:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22394; Tue, 29 Oct 96 15:09:38 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA15562 for pine-info-out; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:06:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA15558 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:05:59 -0800 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr42.interl.net [205.244.161.42]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA16803 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:03:53 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA03821 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:05:55 -0600 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:05:55 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: pine-info Subject: Re: Requesting Automatic Message Acknowledgement In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 24 Oct 1996, Jonathan David Makepeace wrote: > We are running Pine 3.91. > > Is it possible to configure Pine to request acknowledgement that a > message has been received? I have no need to do this, so I am unsure of the details, but I'm sure you could figure something out with that by checking your sendmail.cf or on a user level, maybe you could have procmail or elm's filter look through each inbound message for a certain tag like return-request-reciept or whatever it's called. I remember having this as a built in part of Pegasus Mail for Windows when I was using it. Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMnaNwiGB07hAGnFhAQFRMQQA7emd3Nh1slHkwDkjsg4kRgNLt81Ihv7+ 3nyNcAW4WY1oMxR8c3DjyB/jEpdpruW8cL8z6kvFaQmI3WF6wFpd/T7W2lVibG48 tIwUfZqpGiESIKUpL8/CfbKK+NoXAxNHCgb/Aw+7Xf+MKp9ItHHplujPMD3mMqWk sVBkxGSyGoc= =iGsZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, @interl.net, @geocities.com Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:17:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22614; Tue, 29 Oct 96 15:17:12 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA23263 for pine-info-out; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:13:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA23258 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:13:31 -0800 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr42.interl.net [205.244.161.42]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA17036; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:11:26 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA04027; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:13:28 -0600 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:13:28 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Koen Claessen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Long waiting times when sending email In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Koen Claessen wrote: > I have a problem with sending email in pine. For some reason, some email > addresses take a very long time (sometimes 1 or 2 minutes) to send a > message to. I press ^X, en it says "sending email", and I have to wait for > 1 minute before I can proceed. The messages are not long, that doesn't > matter. > > Does anybody know how I can let pine do this in the background?? So that I > can read/send other email? Try leaving the smtp-server setting in your Pine setup blank. This will tell pine to pass the message off to the system's mail delivery agent (probably sendmail), and sendmail will take care of it as you continue reading/writing. Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMnaPjyGB07hAGnFhAQH1VwQAtqhtvbU5l5PgOkhh6E1sNUxp46lyQ6bL CxKtOQHuK0vo/acNaasK+erRH10p3Hfs4D2oBVlr0zOU9z2uqq8Hdzakf4djcPeU otLorjfZrpgFZ64MdfzPkklb/w01vQ5hIaL8KUKgRjECG1mhmU4LO3XWKrXfXySo 4Zpiymn00QU= =Uh8/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, @interl.net, @geocities.com Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:27:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22903; Tue, 29 Oct 96 15:27:39 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA16087 for pine-info-out; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:23:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA16083 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:23:42 -0800 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr42.interl.net [205.244.161.42]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA17271; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:21:35 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA04130; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:23:38 -0600 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:23:37 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Andy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Andy wrote: > It is possible to get unix Pine to trace how it sends the mails.. > > e.g. the route they were sent? > > Just curious... > > If you can help give me a mail! I don't know of a way to get pine to show this information, but if you leave the smtp-server setting blank, which would tell pine to pass each outgoing message to the system's mail-delivery-agent (probably sendmail), then you could view /var/log/messages to find out where the message was delivered to. This is assuming that you would have access to that file, and that /etc/syslog.conf has the following line (or something similar) in it: *.=info;*.=notice /usr/adm/messages Then you might want to try using a util like dig to "dig theaddressyoufound" to find out the path your system uses (might be different each time depending on network situations) to get to that address - if it doesn't go there directly. Then again, sendmail might be configured to send all mail to a designated system (your ISP for example), in which case it went there and only there. BTW, you can also increase the output that sendmail shows to include DETAILED smtp negotiations, etc. which I'm assuming would also go in /var/log/messages (/usr/adm/messages, /usr/log/messages, whatever it's called). Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMnaR6iGB07hAGnFhAQFlJAQAo304K+IsRoBvEQXU28qNGZAvXvvoQVDx cxC2icj53ZbOQAz+j5Y3hCMP8kP13v66mtA3W0nNi4ou58HvCfXUswCpm/t3mpwG Mdf3egWqKwNIqg4K2gpoLdqCPndj2W847o6gzbPwGGsqeR+5i/bak2c7iIP4hP10 hgkoTB6kqM0= =fb50 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, @interl.net, @geocities.com Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:24:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23921; Tue, 29 Oct 96 16:24:07 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id QAA17510 for pine-info-out; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:19:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA17496 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:19:41 -0800 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr42.interl.net [205.244.161.42]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA18783; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 18:17:35 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA04969; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 18:19:39 -0600 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 18:19:39 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Dolores Burdick Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Flagging incoming mail (+) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 29 Oct 1996, Dolores Burdick wrote: > We just went onto PINE 3.95 today, and I am missing one lovely feature: > the plus-sign that flagged incoming mail. > Within a given folder, this feature gives a very valuable quick-view of > the volume of mail that has been received versus sent-out (within that > folder.) > Can someone tell me if there is any way of getting that feature back?? > It's sad when "upgrading" includes the loss of a feature a lot of people > may enjoy--while adding lots of features that some of us can't even > apprehend, let alone USE. (Maybe users should VOTE!!!) > HOW I MISS THOSE PLUS-SIGNS!! > AM I THE ONLY ONE??? I don't know why your address doesn't have a plus with 3.95, but it did with whatever previous version you were using, but you're looking for the alt-addresses setting. I'm assuming that you're talking about UNIX Pine (because you didn't say otherwise, and that's what I'm using :) ). - From the main menu hit S, then C, then move down to alt-addresses. Add your e-mail address(es) there. I have three e-mail addresses, I put them in there and all mails addressed to me have the + Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMnafDyGB07hAGnFhAQHFRAP7BvfqTLHtlHmqf1bYQL7fJbWVLvbFlEfR DyoAqMbLcqSHO2soMCZGzxPcildo3dys0+r5A0ui7C2GS/WCSHHQLkW0SSpbaKU+ +qcDzHFMcTqJ6I6ROpT/MeeW9X0PkwOToTqKcQLaNCDNossSVApE6ykK3jh0DZnE FUvE0ZkLwic= =uzmv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, @interl.net, @geocities.com Web : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 22:34:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21282; Tue, 29 Oct 96 22:34:11 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA01533 for pine-info-out; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 22:30:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA01529 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 22:30:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vIU9U-00038TC; Tue, 29 Oct 96 22:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ebehrle@tscnet.com (Ernest Behrle) Subject: down-loading mail files Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 05:41:27 GMT Message-Id: <551gt2$oh8@oly.olympic.net> I'm interested in down-loading mail files from the "home" directory into my computer. How do I go about this? Thanks for any info. Ernie From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 23:24:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30407; Tue, 29 Oct 96 23:24:45 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA25055 for pine-info-out; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 23:21:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA25051 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 23:21:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vIUwR-00038VC; Tue, 29 Oct 96 23:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Subject: cmsg cancel <554nos$9hb@wormer.fn.net> Date: 30 Oct 1996 05:49:06 GMT Control: cancel <554nos$9hb@wormer.fn.net> Message-Id: Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19961030.19. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19961030.19.html for complete report. Original Subject: Got Problems??? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 01:39:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31295; Wed, 30 Oct 96 01:39:06 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA26838 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 01:31:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA26834 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 01:31:27 -0800 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbnqk02951; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 04:30:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05488; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:32:07 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA01111; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:29:54 -0300 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:29:45 +0300 (GMT-3) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII pine3.95 give many errors ? what do i do ? my system is unix(r) System V release 4.0 can you help me please ? ************************************************************************** ** *** ** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** ** college of engineering *** ** ** Computer Engineering student *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** ** Kuwait University *** ** ** *** ** ** *** ** ************************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 01:56:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16286; Wed, 30 Oct 96 01:56:30 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA04227 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 01:51:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA04223 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 01:51:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vIXFq-00038UC; Wed, 30 Oct 96 01:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan Denny Subject: Re: Got Problems??? Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:57:03 -0600 Message-Id: <3276537F.6532@cs.siu.edu> References: <554nos$9hb@wormer.fn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WHAT THE F**K!?!?!? Look at where that got posted! Like every development news group got hit by that. Blam! Nate:SCHCATS! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 02:02:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31497; Wed, 30 Oct 96 02:02:05 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA04301 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 01:58:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ozols.lanet.lv (ozols.lanet.lv [159.148.251.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA04297 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 01:58:15 -0800 Received: (from mailer@localhost) by ozols.lanet.lv (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA04175 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:53:46 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: ozols.lanet.lv: mailer set sender to using -f Received: from liepa.lanet.lv(159.148.251.14) by ozols via smap (V1.3) id sma004171; Wed Oct 30 11:53:22 1996 Received: (from se61220@localhost) by liepa.lanet.lv (8.7.6/8.7.3) id LAA74396; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:54:33 +0200 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:54:33 +0200 (WET) From: Linda Sniega To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What kind of info I can get from you? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 02:12:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31585; Wed, 30 Oct 96 02:12:16 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA04459 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 02:06:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ozols.lanet.lv (ozols.lanet.lv [159.148.251.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA04378 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 02:04:50 -0800 Received: (from mailer@localhost) by ozols.lanet.lv (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA04100 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:50:13 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: ozols.lanet.lv: mailer set sender to using -f Received: from liepa.lanet.lv(159.148.251.14) by ozols via smap (V1.3) id sma004084; Wed Oct 30 11:49:49 1996 Received: (from se61220@localhost) by liepa.lanet.lv (8.7.6/8.7.3) id LAA74350; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:50:59 +0200 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:50:59 +0200 (WET) From: Linda Sniega To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What kind of information I can get from you? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 02:29:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31701; Wed, 30 Oct 96 02:29:45 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA27502 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 02:26:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA27498 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 02:26:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vIXnk-00038UC; Wed, 30 Oct 96 02:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Pawel T. Jochym" Subject: Re: Got Problems??? Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:37:45 +0100 Message-Id: <3275DE79.4D27@pkpf.if.uj.edu.pl> References: <554nos$9hb@wormer.fn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hotline wrote: > > LIVE 24 HOURS/DAY!!! > Talk to beautiful girls!!! > And thay will configure your Linux box "on the fly" ... :) "Two most common things in the Universe are Hydrogen and Stupidity" ptj -- Pawel T. Jochym Institute of Nuclear Physics e-mail: ptj@pkpf.if.uj.edu.pl Cracow, Poland tel. 37-02-22 ext. 269 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 02:50:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19282; Wed, 30 Oct 96 02:50:13 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA04908 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 02:46:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA04904 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 02:46:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vIY4U-00038UC; Wed, 30 Oct 96 02:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: Security in Pine?? Date: 28 Oct 1996 19:22:48 GMT Message-Id: <553168$pqm@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: <3273E1BF.6A0D@busearch.lib.binghamton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <3273E1BF.6A0D@busearch.lib.binghamton.edu>, podres@busearch.lib.binghamton.edu writes: > After the deletion of the messages from your account, are there still > records that are held in the central unit but it has already been > deleted from your individual accounT? By "central unit", you must have meant the mainframe computer where your account is. If so, you are right. The files will stay on the HD on that machine for a while. How long they remain there depends on many factors. If the disk is mostly empty, the files can stay for very long time before they are overwritten. However, system backups may not carry them since they are marked as deleted in the HD directory. Hopefully, the system security is good enough so that your emails are not read by others. Just my 2c. Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == PGP key: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 03:09:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32356; Wed, 30 Oct 96 03:09:24 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA05084 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 03:00:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (mail.sni.de [192.109.2.33]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA05080 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 03:00:51 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA21397 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:59:52 +0100 Received: from itsrm1.mow.sni.de (itsrm1 [149.202.148.210]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA29892; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:01:15 +0300 (MOW) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:01:13 +0300 (MOW) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsrm1.mow.sni.de Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Pine Developers Cc: Pine mailing list Subject: Bug (ID Y777J): Error defining news collection with wildcards Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-851401618-846673273=:706" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-851401618-846673273=:706 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Hi! Looks like a bug in Pine 3.95. Two scenario: I. I have alt.security.pgp and comp.security.pgp* in my .newsrc. I want to create *one* collection with these groups. So I go in setup and define collection: PGP *.security.pgp*[] (Note, that I *must* add [] otherweise Pine loudly complaints). After restarting Pine I have PGP collection O.K.; if I enter it, I see all my groups in there. Now I try to eneter news group comp.security.pgp.announce; after a while Pine tells "[411 No such group]"!!! II. Probably, this explains, why group doesn't exist. I *don't* have above groups in my .newsrc. I define collection as above, restart Pine, enter collection - Pine tells me, I have to subscribe. Well, I hit A,^T and am presented with list of above groups in full form - that is, alt.security.pgp, comp.security.pgp.announce and so on. I go in List mode, select all groups, subscribe - O.K. I try to enter any group - and get the same message. And when I look into .newsrc - I have entries like *.security.pgp*alt.security.pgp: *.security.pgp*comp.security.pgp.announce: *.security.pgp*comp.security.pgp.discuss: *.security.pgp*comp.security.pgp.resources: *.security.pgp*comp.security.pgp.tech: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Any comments? greetings ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---559023410-851401618-846673273=:706 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data Pine built Wed Jul 31 13:43:28 MDT 1996 on host: itsrm1 ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = bor, full = Andrej Borsenkow home = /home/bor home_dir= /home/bor hostname= itsrm1.mow.sni.de localdom= mow.sni.de userdom= itsmx1.mow.sni.de maildom= itsmx1.mow.sni.de cur_cntxt= [] cur_fldr= ZSH actual mbox= {itsmx1}.Mail/zsh msgmap: tot=90, cur=90, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=OrderedSubj actual inbox= {itsmx1}INBOX inbox map: tot=16, cur=16, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=OrderedSubj term type=97801-x, ttyname=/dev/pts/0, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Andrej Borsenkow user-id : bor user-domain : itsmx1.mow.sni.de smtp-server : itsmx1 nntp-server : spooky.pdb.sni.de inbox-path : {itsmx1}INBOX incoming-folders : "SendMail" {itsmx1/user=bor}.Mail/NEWS/comp.mail.sendmail.tnx : "SAMBA" {itsmx1/user=bor}.Mail/samba.tnx : "Pine" {itsmx1/user=bor}.Mail/pine-info : "Perl/announce" {itsmx1/user=bor}.Mail/NEWS/comp.lang.perl.announce.tnx : "Midnight Commander" {itsmx1}.Mail/midnight-commander : "ZSH" {itsmx1}.Mail/zsh folder-collections : {itsmx1/user=bor}.Mail/[] news-collections : SNI *{spooky.pdb.sni.de/nntp}sni.[] : UNIX *{spooky.pdb.sni.de/nntp}comp.unix.[] : SYSTEMS *{spooky.pdb.sni.de/nntp}comp.sys.[] : MAIL *{spooky.pdb.sni.de/nntp}comp.mail.[] : GNU *{spooky.pdb.sni.de/nntp}gnu.[] : LANGUAGES *{spooky.pdb.sni.de/nntp}comp.lang.[] : PROTOCOLS *{spooky.pdb.sni.de/nntp}comp.protocols.[] : PGP *{spooky.pdb.sni.de/nntp}*.security.pgp*[] : SOURCES *{spooky.pdb.sni.de/nntp}comp.sources.[] : INFOSYSTEMS *{spooky.pdb.sni.de/nntp}comp.infosystems.[] : LINUX *{spooky.pdb.sni.de/nntp}comp.os.linux.[] : ALL_NEWS *{spooky.pdb.sni.de/nntp}[] default-fcc : "" default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : {itsmx1/user=bor}.Mail/postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .elm/rsignature address-book : SNI .addrbook.d/sni : MESHHELP .addrbook.d/meshhelp : GENERAL .addrbook.d/addressbook : MESH .addrbook.d/mesh : PGP-Key-Servers .addrbook.d/pgp-key-servers feature-list : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-incoming-folders : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-aggregate-command-set : delete-skips-deleted : news-post-without-validation : save-will-advance : news-approximates-new-status : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation : enable-8bit-nntp-posting : reply-always-uses-reply-to : tab-visits-next-new-message-only : auto-zoom-after-select : auto-unzoom-after-apply : enable-flag-screen-implicitly : preserve-start-stop-characters : print-formfeed-between-messages : quell-dead-letter-on-cancel : enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon : quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file : signature-at-bottom initial-keystroke-li : i customized-hdrs : Reply-To: saved-msg-name-rule : by-fcc-of-from-then-from fcc-name-rule : by-recipient sort-key : OrderedSubj addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last character-set : iso-8859-1 composer-wrap-column : 74 reply-indent-string : > empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients use-only-domain-name : no printer : 9022 on itsmx2 [] rsh itsmx2 lpr -ws=G203 -pb2 -mar=10 personal-print-comma : 9022 on itsmx2 [] rsh itsmx2 lpr -ws=G203 -pb2 -mar=10 personal-print-categ : 3 standard-printer : lp last-time-prune-ques : 96.10 last-version-used : 3.95 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu suggest-fullname : Pine Developers suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu local-fullname : Local Support local-address : postmaster kblock-passwd-count : 1 display-filters : _BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP")_ /home/bor/bin/pgpdecode sending-filters : /home/bor/bin/pgp -fats alt-addresses : borsenkow.msk@sni.de viewer-overlap : 2 scroll-margin : 0 status-message-delay : 0 mail-check-interval : 150 elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/home/bor/.pinerc) ======= personal-name : Andrej Borsenkow user-domain : itsmx1.mow.sni.de smtp-server : itsmx1 nntp-server : spooky.pdb.sni.de inbox-path : {itsmx1}INBOX incoming-folders : "SendMail" {itsmx1/user=bor}.Mail/NEWS/comp.mail.sendmail.tnx : "SAMBA" {itsmx1/user=bor}.Mail/samba.tnx : "Pine" {itsmx1/user=bor}.Mail/pine-info : "Perl/announce" {itsmx1/user=bor}.Mail/NEWS/comp.lang.perl.announce.tnx : "Midnight Commander" {itsmx1}.Mail/midnight-commander : "ZSH" {itsmx1}.Mail/zsh folder-collections : {itsmx1/user=bor}.Mail/[] news-collections : SNI *{spooky.pdb.sni.de/nntp}sni.[] : UNIX *{spooky.pdb.sni.de/nntp}comp.unix.[] : SYSTEMS *{spooky.pdb.sni.de/nntp}comp.sys.[] : MAIL *{spooky.pdb.sni.de/nntp}comp.mail.[] : GNU *{spooky.pdb.sni.de/nntp}gnu.[] : LANGUAGES *{spooky.pdb.sni.de/nntp}comp.lang.[] : PROTOCOLS *{spooky.pdb.sni.de/nntp}comp.protocols.[] : PGP *{spooky.pdb.sni.de/nntp}*.security.pgp*[] : SOURCES *{spooky.pdb.sni.de/nntp}comp.sources.[] : INFOSYSTEMS *{spooky.pdb.sni.de/nntp}comp.infosystems.[] : LINUX *{spooky.pdb.sni.de/nntp}comp.os.linux.[] : ALL_NEWS *{spooky.pdb.sni.de/nntp}[] default-fcc : "" postponed-folder : {itsmx1/user=bor}.Mail/postponed-msgs signature-file : .elm/rsignature address-book : SNI .addrbook.d/sni : MESHHELP .addrbook.d/meshhelp : GENERAL .addrbook.d/addressbook : MESH .addrbook.d/mesh : PGP-Key-Servers .addrbook.d/pgp-key-servers feature-list : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-incoming-folders : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-aggregate-command-set : delete-skips-deleted : news-post-without-validation : save-will-advance : news-approximates-new-status : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation : enable-8bit-nntp-posting : reply-always-uses-reply-to : tab-visits-next-new-message-only : auto-zoom-after-select : auto-unzoom-after-apply : enable-flag-screen-implicitly : preserve-start-stop-characters : print-formfeed-between-messages : quell-dead-letter-on-cancel : enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon : quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file : signature-at-bottom initial-keystroke-li : i customized-hdrs : Reply-To: saved-msg-name-rule : by-fcc-of-from-then-from fcc-name-rule : by-recipient sort-key : OrderedSubj character-set : iso-8859-1 printer : 9022 on itsmx2 [] rsh itsmx2 lpr -ws=G203 -pb2 -mar=10 personal-print-comma : 9022 on itsmx2 [] rsh itsmx2 lpr -ws=G203 -pb2 -mar=10 personal-print-categ : 3 last-time-prune-ques : 96.10 last-version-used : 3.95 display-filters : _BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP")_ /home/bor/bin/pgpdecode sending-filters : /home/bor/bin/pgp -fats alt-addresses : borsenkow.msk@sni.de ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last composer-wrap-column : 74 reply-indent-string : > empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lp bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu suggest-fullname : Pine Developers suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu local-fullname : Local Support local-address : postmaster kblock-passwd-count : 1 viewer-overlap : 2 scroll-margin : 0 status-message-delay : 0 mail-check-interval : 150 elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-allow-talk no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread auto-zoom-after-select auto-unzoom-after-apply no-compose-cut-from-cursor no-compose-maps-delete-key-to-ctrl-d no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-send-offers-first-filter no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-default-in-bug-report no-disable-busy-alarm no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-keymenu no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-disable-signature-edit-cmd enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation enable-8bit-nntp-posting enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-background-sending enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-cruise-mode no-enable-cruise-mode-delete no-enable-dot-files no-enable-dot-folders enable-flag-cmd enable-flag-screen-implicitly enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-goto-in-file-browser enable-incoming-folders enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-mouse-in-xterm enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon enable-suspend enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-enable-verbose-smtp-posting no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-distribution-lists no-expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-fcc-on-bounce no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply news-approximates-new-status news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-pass-control-characters-as-is preserve-start-stop-characters no-print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt no-print-includes-from-line no-print-index-enabled print-formfeed-between-messages quell-dead-letter-on-cancel no-quell-lock-failure-warnings no-quell-status-message-beeping quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm reply-always-uses-reply-to no-save-aggregates-copy-sequence no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-cursor no-show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-single-column-folder-list tab-visits-next-new-message-only no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys no-use-sender-not-x-sender no-use-subshell-for-suspend ========== Latest keystrokes ========== ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) r (0x0072) n (0x006e) c (0x0063) y (0x0079) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) d (0x0064) d (0x0064) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) d (0x0064) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) RETURN (0x000d) y (0x0079) c (0x0063) y (0x0079) r (0x0072) y (0x0079) c (0x0063) y (0x0079) RETURN (0x000d) y (0x0079) s (0x0073) RETURN (0x000d) x (0x0078) RETURN (0x000d) TAB (0x0009) RETURN (0x000d) RETURN (0x000d) i (0x0069) d (0x0064) d (0x0064) RETURN (0x000d) i (0x0069) d (0x0064) d (0x0064) d (0x0064) TAB (0x0009) RETURN (0x000d) RETURN (0x000d) RETURN (0x000d) (0x0020) - (0x002d) i (0x0069) l (0x006c) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) c (0x0063) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) RETURN (0x000d) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) T (0x0054) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) e (0x0065) m (0x006d) i (0x0069) o (0x006f) o (0x006f) o (0x006f) m (0x006d) s (0x0073) ^C (0x0003) o (0x006f) b (0x0062) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) RETURN (0x000d) ---559023410-851401618-846673273=:706-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 04:08:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31987; Wed, 30 Oct 96 04:08:37 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA06137 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 04:03:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lausd.k12.ca.us (lausd.k12.ca.us [192.215.166.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA06128 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 04:03:38 -0800 Received: from localhost by lausd.k12.ca.us (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA54738; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 03:57:59 -0800 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 03:57:59 -0800 (PST) From: "C. D. Rosenbaum" To: Pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Unfortunate msg deletion Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How can messages be retrieved if they were inadvertently deleted? How can messages be saved so this won't happen again? Thank you, C D Rosenbaum Resource Specialist Van Nuys High School From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 05:29:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29928; Wed, 30 Oct 96 05:29:28 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA00295 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 05:20:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA00291 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 05:20:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vIaVf-00038VC; Wed, 30 Oct 96 05:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: glachner@iafrica.com (Gernot Lachner) Subject: Re: Got Problems??? Date: Wed, 30 Oct 96 13:14:35 GMT Message-Id: References: <554nos$9hb@wormer.fn.net> <3286c1f5.4330012@news.xroads.com> > On Tue, 29 Oct 96 10:15:54 GMT swebber@nether.net > (hotline) wrote in > comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows: > > > LIVE 24 HOURS/DAY!!! > > Talk to beautiful girls!!! (how do we know ?) > > > > 1-900-476-8585 ext. 8500 > > > > $3.99 per min. (see comment below) > > Must be 18 yrs. (18 years what ? in the business ?) > > Serv-U (619) 645-8434. > > ROAR! Sorry folks, but considering where this idiot > posted and posted and posted this, ah shall we say > 'announcement, it really tickled my funnybone. comment below : i've always wondered, if i phone from here (s.a.) how will they bill me ? just a thought, will not pursue the matter (promise) -- the BAT ~..~ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 06:14:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32609; Wed, 30 Oct 96 06:14:27 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA07948 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 06:10:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA07943 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 06:10:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vIbLL-00038XC; Wed, 30 Oct 96 06:10 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Herve E. Recipon" Subject: News in pine: Indication of the number of post Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:03:59 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Pine fanatics! Do you know how to indicate if the newsgroups has no message? Basically I would like to see the number of post in the index comp.mail.pine Best would be that pine index only the newsgroups with messages? Possible or not? Thanks for your time. -- Herve RECIPON, PhD. -. .-. .-. .-. . ||X|||\ /|||X|||\ /| NCBI - NLM - NIH |/ \|||X|||/ \|||X|| 1001001001 recipon@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov ' `-' `-' `-' `- 1 / (301) 496-2477 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 06:26:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01090; Wed, 30 Oct 96 06:26:51 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA00996 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 06:21:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA00992 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 06:21:43 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:13:03 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id OAA03320; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:18:22 GMT Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:18:22 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Andrej Borsenkow Cc: Pine mailing list Subject: Re: Bug (ID Y777J): Error defining news collection with wildcards In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" I think you aren't using the correct syntax for the collection name. You don't want: *.security.pgp*[] but: [*.security.pgp*] To be honest I would have expected this to be more of the form: PGP *{news.your.site}[*.security.pgp*] if you are accessing your News over an IMAP connection, or PGP *{news.your.site/nntp}[*.security.pgp*] if you are using NNTP instead. However I may be wrong on the latter if a host gets use implicitly (or perhaps you are reading direct from a local news spool area rather than using IMAP or NNTP?). Anyway, try the "[*.security.pgp*]" syntax instead of "[]". Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > Hi! > > Looks like a bug in Pine 3.95. Two scenario: > > I. I have alt.security.pgp and comp.security.pgp* in my .newsrc. I want to > create *one* collection with these groups. So I go in setup and define > collection: > PGP *.security.pgp*[] > > (Note, that I *must* add [] otherweise Pine loudly complaints). > > After restarting Pine I have PGP collection O.K.; if I enter it, I see all > my groups in there. Now I try to eneter news group > comp.security.pgp.announce; after a while Pine tells "[411 No such > group]"!!! > > II. Probably, this explains, why group doesn't exist. > > I *don't* have above groups in my .newsrc. I define collection as above, > restart Pine, enter collection - Pine tells me, I have to subscribe. Well, > I hit A,^T and am presented with list of above groups in full form - that > is, alt.security.pgp, comp.security.pgp.announce and so on. I go in List > mode, select all groups, subscribe - O.K. I try to enter any group - and > get the same message. And when I look into .newsrc - I have entries like > > *.security.pgp*alt.security.pgp: > *.security.pgp*comp.security.pgp.announce: > *.security.pgp*comp.security.pgp.discuss: > *.security.pgp*comp.security.pgp.resources: > *.security.pgp*comp.security.pgp.tech: > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ !!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Any comments? > > greetings > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 > SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 > > NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 06:36:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26912; Wed, 30 Oct 96 06:36:11 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id GAA01133 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 06:31:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA01129 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 06:31:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vIbZS-00038VC; Wed, 30 Oct 96 06:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eivind Kjorstad Subject: Default save folder on remote host Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:06:08 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi ! I've got pine configured so that it uses another host as default save folder. (due to disk quotas on this host) This works quite fine except for one thing: Pine keeps nagging about my username and password on the remote host. If I press "S" to save a message, then I get asked for username and password. Then pine opens the remote folder and tells me "folder XYZ does not exist, create?) I press Y and get asked for username and password _again_. It's worky to have to supply both username and password up to two times to save one message. Is there any way to avoid this ? Please reply by email and I will summarize and post any replies. Sincerely, Eivind From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 07:12:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01264; Wed, 30 Oct 96 07:12:56 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA08739 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 07:08:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (mail.sni.de [192.109.2.33]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA08735 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 07:08:42 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA09328 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:07:43 +0100 Received: from itsrm1.mow.sni.de (itsrm1 [149.202.148.210]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA00856; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:09:30 +0300 (MOW) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:09:28 +0300 (MOW) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsrm1.mow.sni.de Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Pine mailing list Cc: Mike Brudenell Subject: Re: Bug (ID Y777J): Error defining news collection with wildcards In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > I think you aren't using the correct syntax for the collection name. > > You don't want: > *.security.pgp*[] > but: > [*.security.pgp*] > ... > > Anyway, try the "[*.security.pgp*]" syntax instead of "[]". > > Thanks! It works. Now, could anybody explain difference between [comp.os.linux.*] and comp.os.linux.[] ? Much thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 08:01:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02619; Wed, 30 Oct 96 08:01:52 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA09473 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 07:53:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from oxmail4.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA09469 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 07:53:50 -0800 Received: from sable.ox.ac.uk by oxmail4 with SMTP (PP) with ESMTP; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:50:20 +0000 Received: from localhost (sjoh0519@localhost) by sable.ox.ac.uk (1.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA20317 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:50:08 GMT Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:50:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Jan Dehn To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To whom it may concern The previous version of pine had a facility which allowed inbox messages to be expunged when quitting pine. This facility seems to have been removed with the new version. Short of having to delete each single entry, the inbox therefore quickly gets clogged up with new messages. How about reinstating the 'Expunge read messages?' facility when quitting pine? Jan Dehn CENTRE FOR THE STUDY OF AFRICAN ECONOMIES Oxford University 21 Winchester Road Oxford OX2 6NA Telephone: (01865) 274550 Facsimile: (01865) 274558 Email: JAN.DEHN@ECONOMICS.OX.AC.UK Home: St. John's College Oxford OX1 3JP Telepone: (01865) 556781 ******************************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 08:36:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02479; Wed, 30 Oct 96 08:36:45 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id IAA10371 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 08:32:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA10367 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 08:32:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vIdTn-00038VC; Wed, 30 Oct 96 08:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hchapman@blue.seas.upenn.edu (Speed Racer) Subject: Re: editing a sent mail Date: 28 Oct 1996 16:55:53 GMT Message-Id: <552oip$h03@netnews.upenn.edu> References: Amit Kulkarni (kulku@chinet.chinet.com) wrote: : i want to edit a mail send by me and possibly redirect it to some other : destination. the second destination should not know that i have sent the : mail : to any previous destination. : expecting an early reply The only way I've found to do it is to choose Forward. Then take out the old headers and the "(fwd)" out of the subject line. I'm not sure, though, if the headers include any info regarding the forward. R. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:05:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06594; Wed, 30 Oct 96 10:05:36 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA05824 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:01:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA05820 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:01:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vIewF-00038VC; Wed, 30 Oct 96 10:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Jean Claude Poirier" Subject: Attacment Date: 30 Oct 1996 17:00:41 GMT Message-Id: <01bbc683$d961c7a0$84b113cc@jcp> How do we make an attachment? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:07:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06728; Wed, 30 Oct 96 10:07:37 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id KAA13193 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:01:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from megahertz.njit.edu (megahertz.njit.edu [128.235.251.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA13189 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:01:47 -0800 Received: (from dmk6786@localhost) by megahertz.njit.edu (8.7.6/8.6.9) id NAA10778; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:01:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:01:25 -0500 (EST) From: duncan m kimani ce stnt To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Internet Acsess. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sir/Mum, I'm requesting on how to get into the internet using pine. Please give me any data needed for this. Thanks, Duncan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:52:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10743; Wed, 30 Oct 96 12:52:40 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA17598 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:46:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA17594 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:46:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vIhUa-00038TC; Wed, 30 Oct 96 12:44 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: BIG TIME Folder file problems Date: 30 Oct 1996 14:08:49 GMT Message-Id: <557nhh$kc7@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: <556cfk$202@news1.panix.com> fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) writes: >Hello all: >Over the past couple of days, I have lost all of the information in my >INBOX and saved-messages files. They've literally gone from having, >respectfully, 5 and 21 messages in each, to going to 0 bytes. >And the really freaky thing is that I didn't do anything. >Particularly in the latter case, I'm perplexed. Since, when the file >was revised to 0 bytes I was neither running an FTP (which would allow >me to replace the file), nor was I in Unix mode, I'd have had to have >deleted all 21 messages manually. >This I *know* I did not do. >My ISP claims ignorance. They claim they didn't delete my messages (I >have no reason to doubt them on this), and they also claim that >they've never seen a "bug" of this kind in Pine. >So has anyone ever seen this kind of bug in Pine? Particularly Pine >3.94? Particularly Panix users? What computers and OS is Panix running? Wasn't Panix one of the ISPs that got hit by the SYN denial of service attack a couple of months ago? >Please reply to me at aem0608@is2.nyu.edu >E-mail is preferred, but public responses OK too. >Thanks, >Andrew Mathis >================================================================= >Shining a flashlight on the ugly underside of the 'net: http://www.webmagazine.com/Features/Hate/splash.html >What's new with Frente? http://www.nj.com/maxwells/july96/frente.html >The Homepage that made Milwaukee famous: http://pages.nyu.edu/~aem0608 >"Panu derech Hashem" >--Yeshayahu 40:3 -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:56:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10748; Wed, 30 Oct 96 12:56:45 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id MAA10606 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:51:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA10602 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:51:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vIhYi-00038TC; Wed, 30 Oct 96 12:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lsg@xroads.com (Lester S. Garrett) Subject: Re: Got Problems??? Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 02:50:44 GMT Message-Id: <3286c1f5.4330012@news.xroads.com> References: <554nos$9hb@wormer.fn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 29 Oct 96 10:15:54 GMT swebber@nether.net (hotline) wrote in comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows: > LIVE 24 HOURS/DAY!!! > Talk to beautiful girls!!! > > 1-900-476-8585 ext. 8500 > > $3.99 per min. > Must be 18 yrs. > Serv-U (619) 645-8434. ROAR! Sorry folks, but considering where this idiot posted and posted and posted this, ah shall we say 'announcement, it really tickled my funnybone. We now return you to your regularly scheduled newsgroup. -={lsg}=- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:11:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28585; Wed, 30 Oct 96 13:11:00 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA18336 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:06:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA18332 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:06:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vIhnc-00038TC; Wed, 30 Oct 96 13:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI (Holger Lillqvist) Subject: Re: Mime Qp->8Bit:Converting Mime QP to 8Bit when Saving mail... Date: 30 Oct 1996 18:06:10 GMT Message-Id: References: <5531ig$5vr@itnews.sc.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 28 Oct 1996 19:29:20 GMT, Sean V. Kelley wrote: : I have no use for a folder full of QP sent-mail. Could you please : add an option so that 'save mail' behaves like 'export' and thus converts : my Mime QP mail to 8bit when I save it to various mail folders like : 'sent-mail', 'read-messages', saved-messages' etc? : As it is now, you can quite easily export your whole folder, and thereby get it QP-decoded, with the command series: ;aae (means: select - all - apply - export). This works in pine 3.95, I don't know about earlier versions. -- Holger.Lillqvist@Helsinki.Fi University of Helsinki * Nordica / Institute of literature From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:33:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11836; Wed, 30 Oct 96 13:33:15 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id NAA19028 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:29:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from smtp.WPI.EDU (smtp.WPI.EDU [130.215.24.62]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA19014 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:29:05 -0800 Received: from chiott.res.wpi.edu (chiott.res.WPI.EDU [130.215.244.11]) by smtp.WPI.EDU (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id QAA03771 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:29:03 -0500 Message-Id: <3277C8CF.5860@thepentagon.com> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:29:51 -0500 From: adam X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: ? about "from" header. X-Url: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/95.01/msg00084.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have tried to use the options to fix this, but to no avail. I am trying to find a way for the mail I send not to include the address I am writing from, but an alternate address. I don't want, for example, replies to personal mail sent to my office when they are written from my office account. I know that there is the reply-to header, but for people who do not pay attention, this does not work. The system administration has fixed my domain, so I can't chamge that in the configuration. If you could help me with this, it would be greatly apriciated. Also, is there a way to set the reply-to header, so I do not have to type in the return address every time I send mail? Thank you very much, Adam From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:02:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19503; Wed, 30 Oct 96 19:02:29 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id SAA20364 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:57:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA20360 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:57:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vInHU-00038UC; Wed, 30 Oct 96 18:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu (Ashok Aiyar) Subject: Re: Problems getting POP3 to run with UNIX Pine Date: 29 Oct 1996 21:01:03 GMT Message-Id: References: <32761E1D.1C60@ait.fredonia.edu> On Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:09:17 GMT, John Hansen wrote: > I'm attempting to use Pine 3.91 under Linux to read mail on a >POP3 server. I've used the recommended syntax: > >(oak.ait.fredonia.edu/pop3)INBOX > That syntax is incorrect. The correct syntax is: incoming-folders= INBOX {oak.ait.fredonia.edu/pop3} Note that the brackets are very different. Additionally, you should strongly consider using pine 3.92 or later for pop3 mailbox access. There bugs in the Pine 3.91 pop3 code. later, Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. Department of Oncology email: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu University of Wisconsin-Madison tel: (608) 262-6697 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:43:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17070; Wed, 30 Oct 96 19:43:37 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id TAA27989 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:37:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA27985 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:37:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vIntI-00038TC; Wed, 30 Oct 96 19:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: psmith@onramp.net (Paul Smith) Subject: Re: Pine - a Program for Internet News & Email Date: 31 Oct 1996 02:29:56 GMT Message-Id: <5592v4$63t@news.onramp.net> References: <326505DF.ABD@info.wcss.wroc.pl> <32654846.794B@audry.gsfc.nasa.gov> <32662AE0.59E2@info.wcss.wroc.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII In article <32662AE0.59E2@info.wcss.wroc.pl>, misiak@info.wcss.wroc.pl says... > >Ye Hong wrote: > >> > once again the same question: how can I read the mail of another user in >> > the same system? I run the AIX 4.1, and I have three accounts. I would >> > like to read mail from all the accounts starting single Pine. > >> Why don't you add .forward file in your multi-accounts so that all >> emails will finally go to only one account? > >I use few accounts in order to separate email regarding different >aspects of my work. E.g. one of my accounts is for administering >listservers only, the onother one for all the stuff regarding contacts >with my supercomputer users etc. >-- > >Pawel Misiak I enable "incoming folders" in pine and use `procmail' as a filter to distribute new mail into an appropriate folder. Stuff that needs regular attention (e.g cron output from daily sysadmin tasks, notification of firewall issues, postmaster related stuff) goes into its own `incoming folder'; stuff that is of interest when I get around to it goes straight to a regular folder (non-incoming) and I check it over morning coffee etc. Thus, a .forward in your other accounts could feed mail to your favourite account where procmail could distribute and filter it. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 20:30:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20750; Wed, 30 Oct 96 20:30:26 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA21889 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 20:27:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA21885 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 20:27:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vIog1-00038TC; Wed, 30 Oct 96 20:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Derrick Green Subject: Re: Using pine to approve mailing list postings? Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 14:52:21 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Simon Benn wrote: > I am starting a moderated mailing list using majordomo. At the moment all > the messages are coming in with a BOUNCE subject line. I have to manually > strip the old headers and add an approved line. > Is there anyone with any experience on this out there? I could really use > a smart send filter to do this for me. You're in luck today. You've just run into a guy who does this every day of his life. I hope you're on a UNIX machine. Pine includes the pipe feature which allows you to pipe the current message to a UNIX program. Included with majordomo is a program called "approve" which will automatically approve any message that is piped to it by puttin approve header in its correct spot. These two features combined allow you to approve messages on the fly in Pine by piping them to the "approve" script supplied with majordomo. Let me know if you have further questions. Sincerely, --- Derrick Green eusdegr@wser.ericsson.se From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 20:30:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21042; Wed, 30 Oct 96 20:30:30 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id UAA28797 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 20:27:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA28793 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 20:27:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vIog5-00038UC; Wed, 30 Oct 96 20:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rvermey@bazu05.bazis.nl (Ray Vermey) Subject: Latest version pine for SCO ? Date: 29 Oct 1996 15:23:13 GMT Message-Id: Hi, i am looking for the latest version of Pine for SCO ? Can anyone tell me where i can find it ? Latest source is ok too, i hope i can get it compiled then ;)) Thanx! Ray From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:32:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09214; Wed, 30 Oct 96 22:32:04 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id WAA23470 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:23:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA23466 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:23:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vIqS6-00038TC; Wed, 30 Oct 96 22:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Info required Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:41:16 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 28 Oct 1996, [Atif Anwar Mirza] wrote: > Please tell me, I'm using Pine 3.93 and created a distribuuution list > in address book. Now when i send an e-mail to distribution list it add all > the addresses to To: field. What i want is to shortened the to field and > send the e-mail to all useeers also. I want to short the to fieeld because > it is a very large list and 3 to 4 pages are wasted with to field. I do not remember in which version the Lcc: field came in, so I do not recall whether you have it in version 3.93. One thing you can do is put the name of your distribution list in the Bcc: field. (Press ^R if necessary to get Rich Headers.) Then be sure to put _something_ in the To: field, such as your own email address. (Throw away the copy you receive, if you wish.) This way, each recipient will only see his own name on the copy he receives and not the entire long list. Check to see if the Lcc: header field is available in your version of Pine. If so, please read the online help material about it. It is easier to use than the technique I mentioned above. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 23:11:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22751; Wed, 30 Oct 96 23:11:01 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA24002 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 23:07:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA23998 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 23:07:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vIrDB-00038TC; Wed, 30 Oct 96 23:06 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: atlka@cent01.oi.pg.gda.pl (Adam Tla/lka) Subject: patches to pine3.95 Date: 30 Oct 1996 20:21:31 GMT Message-Id: I've just patched pine ver 3.95 to work better with terminfo database. Now keys like PgDn, PgUp, Home, End, Backspace, Delete and Insert should work in pine, pico and pilot . Patch was tested on Linux and Solaris 2.5.1 system. Available as : ftp://ftp.pg.gda.pl/pub/software/services/mail/pine3.95L01at.diff.gz For those who use Redhat Linux on Intel platform there are also .rpm's done by my friend T. Kloczek (kloczek@pg.gda.pl) : RPM: ftp://ftp.pg.gda.pl/pub/OS/Linux/xtras-PG/kloczek/RPMS/pine-3.95-3.i386.rpm SRPM: ftp://ftp.pg.gda.pl/pub/OS/Linux/xtras-PG/kloczek/SRPMS/pine-3.95-3.src.rpm Hope this is a nice feature ..(_)..(_)..(_).. Adam Tla/lka System & Network Administration Group Computer Center, Technical University of Gdansk, Poland phone 47-21-79 mailto:atlka@pg.gda.pl From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 23:36:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22956; Wed, 30 Oct 96 23:36:45 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id XAA01389 for pine-info-out; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 23:32:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA01385 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 23:32:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vIrZP-00038TC; Wed, 30 Oct 96 23:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Thomlinson John R Subject: What happened to my "From:"? Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:37:57 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This message, I am sure, will have the text "To: comp.mail.pine" in the "From:" field of the index page. Just what exactly did I do when I fine-tuned my configuration to cause such an horrendous thing to happen? Heck, I'm not ashamed, I *want* people to know that it's me posting. Maybe I should be ashamed, though, 'cos I bet this is a really dumb mistake on my part, but I have been over and over the configuration options and I can't find one that seems to help. Anyone? John ---------------------------------------------------------------------- John Thomlinson Voice: 809/767-0371 Terrestrial Ecology Division FAX: 809/758-0815 University of Puerto Rico PO Box 363682 email: thomlins@sunceer.upr.clu.edu San Juan, PR 00936 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:52:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23504; Thu, 31 Oct 96 00:52:12 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id AAA25332 for pine-info-out; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:48:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA25328 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:48:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vIsjX-00038TC; Thu, 31 Oct 96 00:44 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: werner@iglou1.iglou.com (Craig Werner) Subject: Re: Unfortunate msg deletion Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 04:27:59 GMT crosenba@lausd.k12.ca.us ("C. D. Rosenbaum") writes: >How can messages be retrieved if they were inadvertently deleted? As long as you have not exited your Pine session, you can go to the folder where the deleted message resides and undelete it with the "u" command. Once the session has been exited, though, the message will be gone. Craig Werner From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 02:01:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24019; Thu, 31 Oct 96 02:01:43 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id BAA26181 for pine-info-out; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 01:55:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA26177 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 01:55:33 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:49:45 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA15404; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:55:06 GMT Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:55:05 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Thomlinson John R Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: What happened to my "From:"? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" [I'm presuming you're new to this newsgroup/mailing-list? This is a very frequently asked and answered question.] Don't worry... there is nothing wrong, and your messages are going out and appearing exactly right. The "To:" prefix only affects your own Index screen. This is mentioned in Pine's built-in help for the Index screen (type a "?" at that screen to see it) ... ----- SENDER: The name or email address of the sender. If you are the sender, then the first recipient's name is shown here. In Newsgroups, if you are the sender and there are no email recipients, the newsgroup name will be listed. ----- The reason for this behaviour is to try and help you be giving you as much information as possible: the "To:" *implies* the message from you, and the remaining space is used to remind you who/where it went to. This is very useful at times, especially in folders of saved messages. Folks, rather than keep on answering this particular question perhaps we could usefully have some discussion about how best to avoid it being asked in the dirst place? (I remember the days when Pine-Info did this sort of thing, before being gatewayed to comp.mail.pine :-( How is Pine/its documentation/help falling down here? Is the description in the help not sufficiently clear (perhaps including the reason for the behaviour would be helpful?)? Are people even finding the built-in help? Can we come up with any suggestions for the Pine Team over how to help people in this matter? Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 29 Oct 1996, Thomlinson John R wrote: > This message, I am sure, will have the text "To: comp.mail.pine" in the > "From:" field of the index page. Just what exactly did I do when I > fine-tuned my configuration to cause such an horrendous thing to happen? > Heck, I'm not ashamed, I *want* people to know that it's me posting. > Maybe I should be ashamed, though, 'cos I bet this is a really dumb > mistake on my part, but I have been over and over the configuration > options and I can't find one that seems to help. > > Anyone? > > John > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > John Thomlinson > > Voice: 809/767-0371 Terrestrial Ecology Division > FAX: 809/758-0815 University of Puerto Rico > PO Box 363682 > email: thomlins@sunceer.upr.clu.edu San Juan, PR 00936 > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 02:29:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12675; Thu, 31 Oct 96 02:29:36 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id CAA03532 for pine-info-out; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 02:20:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ucas.ac.uk (ns.ucas96.ac.uk [194.80.160.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id CAA03528 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 02:20:43 -0800 Received: from ucas-ws2 ([194.80.165.32]) by ucas-firewall.ucas.ac.uk with SMTP id <15365>; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:21:45 +0000 Received: from localhost by ucas-ws2 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06203; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:20:21 GMT Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:20:21 +0000 From: David Delaney X-Sender: david@ucas-ws2 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Is this a good idea ? (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Good morning, (UK time 10:20) I had sent the attached to 'pine-suggestions'. Perhaps you may like to see. David Delaney Phone: +44 (0)1242-544742 Systems Administrator Fax : +44 (0)1242-221622 UCAS EMAIL: d.delaney@ucas.ac.uk Fulton House Jessop Avenue, CHELTENHAM Glos. GL50 3SH, ENGLAND ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:03:50 +0000 (GMT) From: David Delaney To: pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu Cc: David Delaney Subject: Is this a good idea ? Good morning, (UK time 10:00) Firstly, may I say what a great EMAIL tool PINE is proving to be. I had written a Mickey-Mouse chunk of UNIX script to enable our in-house, non-technical users to send/receive EMAIL and, although it works OK, there is room for (much) improvement. PINE is it. There are, however, two minor points that I seem unable to address :- 1) Many of our users have 100's of messages in their folders. Is it possible to set the 'initial keystroke list' such that only the last 20 are shown in the index and 2) After you '^X' to send a message, why does she prompt you to ask if you want to send it ? I should like to turn this feature off, if possible. Weather here is overcast but mild. Have a good day. Cheers, David Delaney Phone: +44 (0)1242-544742 Systems Administrator Fax : +44 (0)1242-221622 UCAS EMAIL: d.delaney@ucas.ac.uk Fulton House Jessop Avenue, CHELTENHAM Glos. GL50 3SH, ENGLAND From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 03:38:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08694; Thu, 31 Oct 96 03:38:39 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA04194 for pine-info-out; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 03:24:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA04190 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 03:24:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vIvCt-00038TC; Thu, 31 Oct 96 03:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ruth Anne Ladue Subject: Re: cut and paste Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:40:48 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: First of all, this isn't really a PINE question. A little peek into the "Save file" portion of the HELP file on MS Works will probably help. You also don't say what platform you're running PINE on. The more information you give about your problem, the easier it is to find a solution. Open your file in MS Works, and click "File", then click "Save As". In the "Save As" file dialog box for MS Works, there should be options for file format. Choose the "Text Only" option, and save your file, changing the file name so you don't overwrite your original MS Works file. How you get your new ASCII file into a PINE compose window depends on what platform PINE runs on. If you're using PC PINE, Control-R (^R) in the message test portion of the Compose window will prompt you for a file name, and you just type the file name, press return, and there it is! You'll probably have to reformat the file so it looks good; you can do this before you import the file to PINE. If you're using PINE on a remote system that you telnet or dial into, first you'll have to upload your file to the remote system using kermit, or sz or FTP. (There are other newsgroups that can tell you how to use these utilities to upload your file.) Then you open PINE, and insert the file into the compose window as above. --Ruth Anne Ruth Anne Ladue ruthanne@unix.sri.com SRI International I speak for SRI part of the time; this isn't that part! On Wed, 23 Oct 1996, yates dean wrote: > This is actually a different cut and paste question. I'd like to send my > resume via Pine e-mail in ASCII. I have the resume on disc, use MS > Works/Windows 3.1, and need to transfer the resume from my disc to Pine > compose message. How do I do this??? Please explain in really simple-to > understand language and assume little basic knowledge on my part. Thanks. > > Dean > dyates1@alum.umbc.edu > > > --Ruth Anne From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 03:41:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24668; Thu, 31 Oct 96 03:41:07 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id DAA04321 for pine-info-out; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 03:35:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from fcrd.gov.uk (zeus.fcrd.gov.uk [194.216.170.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id DAA04317 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 03:35:44 -0800 Received: (from porter@localhost) by fcrd.gov.uk (8.7.6/8.7.3) id LAA01583; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:33:59 GMT Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:33:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Tim Porter X-Sender: porter@jupiter To: Koen Claessen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Long waiting times when sending email In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Koen Claessen wrote: > Hi there, > > I have a problem with sending email in pine. For some reason, some email > addresses take a very long time (sometimes 1 or 2 minutes) to send a > message to. I press ^X, en it says "sending email", and I have to wait for > 1 minute before I can proceed. The messages are not long, that doesn't > matter. > > Does anybody know how I can let pine do this in the background?? So that I > can read/send other email? Koen, I had this problem when I upgraded from 3.91 to 3.95. The problem is that beginning with Pine 3.92 Pine attempts to send mail to an SMTP server using SMTP commands, rather than by calling sendmail as a child process. I solved this by setting the sendmail-path variable in our global pine.conf file to point to 'sendit.sh', a shell script which sends the mail using the old method. You can find this script in the contrib/utils directory of the Pine distribution. Here is an extract from the release notes which explains this: "SENDING STRATEGY Beginning with 3.92, Pine sends messages in a different way. Previously, Pine created a temp file containing the message to be sent, and invoked sendmail in a way that would cause it to derive the SMTP envelope information from the message headers. This had several disadvantages, including the inability to support ESMTP options such as 8BITMIME. So now Pine, by default, invokes sendmail such that it can directly interact via SMTP commands. However, the direct interaction has caused undesirable side effects at some sites. For example: o If your sendmail is configured to do address validation, it may take significantly longer for sendmail to accept the message than it used to. The user sees this delay in Pine. o Some sendmails are configured to generate X-Authentication-Warning (see below for more information on this warning) headers when directly invoked by Pine. If you experience sending difficulties, the first thing to try is setting the following configuration variable: smtp-server=localhost If that doesn't help, it's possible to revert to Pine's previous method of sending via a temporary file. In the contrib/utils directory of the distribution, there is a shell script named \"sendit.sh\" To revert to the previous sending-method, install this script and set the sendmail-path variable to its path". Hope this helps, Tim ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Porter | t.porter@fcrd.gov.uk Forestry Commission, Research Division, | "All opinions expressed are my UK | own, not those of my company" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 04:29:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06084; Thu, 31 Oct 96 04:29:48 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id EAA27979 for pine-info-out; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 04:25:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from duchesse.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (duchesse.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.122]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id EAA27933 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 04:20:02 -0800 Received: from localhost (muelt003@localhost) by duchesse.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA12706 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:19:19 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: duchesse.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE: muelt003 owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:19:19 +0100 (MET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Tim_M=FCller?= To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello! Is there anybody out there? Please answer. I'm so lonely. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 05:55:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21841; Thu, 31 Oct 96 05:55:07 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA06036 for pine-info-out; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 05:49:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from teco01a.teco.uni-karlsruhe.de (teco01a.teco.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.170.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with ESMTP id FAA06029 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 05:49:46 -0800 Received: from teco01a by teco01a.teco.uni-karlsruhe.de (8.7.4) id OAA05770; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:49:17 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:49:17 +0100 (MET) From: Gerhard Heijenga X-Sender: heijenga@teco01a To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: compile error Pine for Windows95 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, have anyone compiled Pine on Windows95 Plattform? I just want know this, therefore I give no detailled information. I have try it with 'build wnt' and 'build win' without success. I know that I must copy the c-client directory to the toplevel of the Pine95 dir. On my windows NT machine there are no problems. TIA Gerhard From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 06:05:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25574; Thu, 31 Oct 96 06:05:28 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id FAA29089 for pine-info-out; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 05:58:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA29085 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 05:58:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vIxbu-00038TC; Thu, 31 Oct 96 05:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Requesting Automatic Message Acknowledgement Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 20:30:01 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Jonathan David Makepeace wrote: > On 28 Oct 1996, Don Sugarman wrote: > > > On Thu, 24 Oct 1996, Jonathan David Makepeace wrote: > > > > > Is it possible to configure Pine to request acknowledgement that a > > > message has been received? > > > > Yes. Add a line to your signature file saying something like: > > "Please respond by reply mail when you have read this message. Thank you" > > On our old VM system people could automatically request that they receive > an automatic acknowledgement message when a message recipient opened up a > message for reading. I expect that that was only true between local VM > users, but people are asking me whether Pine has a similar functionality. > > If it does nobody seems to know about it. As a onetime professional VM systems programmer, I can categorically state that the receipt you can get back with CMS Notes (a type of VM email system) and PROFS or OfficeVision/VM, if they ever put it in the latter two, was strictly an IBM artefact that has nothing to do with email delivered via the Internet. Pine has NO such capability, and return receipts, to the best of my knowledge, are not even defined by Internet standards. (Although there might be something on this that I am not aware of.) You can, in your Pine configuration, add the customized header Return-Receipt-To: {your_email_address} Some receiving email systems will honor it and send you back a receipt, and some will not. There is no way you can force them to, so just because you do not get a receipt back does not mean your mail went astray. And it does NOT mean the recipient has actually read your message. It only means that it was delivered to the inbox. It says nothing about what might have happened to the message after that. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 07:37:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27371; Thu, 31 Oct 96 07:37:53 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id HAA07513 for pine-info-out; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 07:33:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA07509 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 07:33:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vIz4C-00038TC; Thu, 31 Oct 96 07:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bruno Wolff III Subject: cmsg cancel <36.9952477184124@news.nemonet.com> Control: cancel <36.9952477184124@news.nemonet.com> Date: 30 Oct 1996 21:26:19 GMT Message-Id: Reason cancelled: MMF Cancelled From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:25:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30880; Thu, 31 Oct 96 09:25:01 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id JAA03322 for pine-info-out; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:19:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id JAA03315 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:19:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJ0ld-00038TC; Thu, 31 Oct 96 09:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eivind Kjorstad Subject: Defining mailfolders Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:26:28 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When defining a folder I can do stuff like: mail/[*txt] To get only the folder names ending in txt. I was wondering if pine recognized any more advanced patternmatching. For instance all the people I write most often have defined fcc's that sare their surname. Basically I'd like to be able to set up a collection containing _only_ those folders starting with a capital, and another with the rest. mail/[[A-Z]*] obviously doesn't work. Eivind From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:28:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03368; Thu, 31 Oct 96 14:28:14 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA19045 for pine-info-out; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:24:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA19035 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:24:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJ5Sp-00038UC; Thu, 31 Oct 96 14:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: transferring mail Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:59:17 -0500 Message-Id: References: <3278670E.2A7A@Musee.de.Paris> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3278670E.2A7A@Musee.de.Paris> On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, Eugene Delacroix wrote: > Is there some way I can send a bunch of emails (that I've saved) > at once (all to one address)? Yes. Please read the online help information about aggregate commands. You can forward a collection of emails (from the same folder) as an aggregate to a single address. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:38:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06894; Thu, 31 Oct 96 14:38:01 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id OAA19437 for pine-info-out; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:34:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from educator.nctu.edu.tw (educator.nctu.edu.tw [140.126.237.201]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA19426 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:34:50 -0800 From: timneeno@educator.nctu.edu.tw Received: by educator.nctu.edu.tw (Hub v4.0) id AA18231; Fri, 1 Nov 96 06:34:18 +0800 Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 06:34:17 +0800 (EAT) To: pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi. I hope you can help me. I'm using a Mac and I want to export email onto my desktop. I know I can hit "Export file" and put in name of home directory, but what do I hit to actually send it there before I quit?? Please answer to Rabi'a Neeno at timneeno address. Thankyou. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:42:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22468; Thu, 31 Oct 96 15:42:29 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id PAA14376 for pine-info-out; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:35:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA14371 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:34:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJ6au-00038VC; Thu, 31 Oct 96 15:32 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tim Wynn Subject: Problems with Pine 3.95 under OS/2 3.0 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:32:26 -0600 Message-Id: <327928FA.5D33@edwardjones.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------3D6E46CF126B" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3D6E46CF126B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I have a user at my site who uses Pine 3.95 running under OS/2 3.0. He gets his mail via POP from our Unix mail server. I've attached the user's pinerc file below as a text file. I have two main problems: 1) The user can download messages via POP just fine. But, he cannot save them. When he tries to save a message to a folder, it says that "Folder C:\MAIL\SAVEMAIL doesn't exist. Create [Y/N]?". If he tries Y, it tells him that it cannot save the message because it cannot create the folder file. We've tried not using a folder file (letting pine create it), and that failed with the same message. Then we tried creating the file folder manually, as C:\MAIL\SAVEMAIL.MTX. This got exactly the same result. I'm stumped. Is this some sort of IMAP problem (we're not running an IMAP server, but we can if need be). 2) The user cannot send mail. I'm guessing this is because his OS/2 system doesn't know how to send mail. I saw in an earlier posting that PC-Pine can only send mail via IMAP. Do I need to be using IMAP rather than POP? Any help would be appreciated. -- Tim Wynn (tim.wynn@edwardjones.com) Always the beautiful answer, who Mail Administrator, Edward Jones asks a more beautiful question. St.Louis, MO, USA (314) 515-3480 e.e. cummings --------------3D6E46CF126B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="sgpinerc" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="sgpinerc" # Updated by Pine(tm) 3.95, copyright 1989-1996 University of Washington. # # Pine configuration file -- customize as needed. # # This file sets the configuration options used by Pine and PC-Pine. If you # are using Pine on a Unix system, there may be a system-wide configuration # file which sets the defaults for these variables. There are comments in # this file to explain each variable, but if you have questions about # specific settings see the section on configuration options in the Pine # notes. On Unix, run pine -conf to see how system defaults have been set. # For variables that accept multiple values, list elements are separated # by commas. A line beginning with a space or tab is considered to be a # continuation of the previous line. For a variable to be unset its value # must be blank. To set a variable to the empty string its value should # be "". You can override system defaults by setting a variable to the # empty string. Switch variables are set to either "yes" or "no", and # default to "no". # Lines beginning with "#" are comments, and ignored by Pine. ########################### Essential Parameters ########################### # Over-rides your full name from Unix password file. Required for PC-Pine. personal-name=Steve Giggar # Your login/e-mail user name user-id=apl0090 mail-directory=c:\mail # Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail. user-domain=edwardjones.com # List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail. smtp-server=nsmail # NNTP server for posting news. Also sets news-collections for news reading. nntp-server=ncsnews # Path of (local or remote) INBOX, e.g. ={mail.somewhere.edu}inbox # Normal Unix default is the local INBOX (usually /usr/spool/mail/$USER). inbox-path={nsmail/pop3}INBOX ###################### Collections, Folders, and Files ##################### # List of incoming msg folders besides INBOX, e.g. ={host2}inbox, {host3}inbox # Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-host-name}folder-path incoming-folders= # List of directories where saved-message folders may be. First one is # the default for Saves. Example: Main {host1}mail/[], Desktop mail\[] # Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-hostname}optnl-directory-path[] folder-collections=C:\MAIL\[] # List, only needed if nntp-server not set, or news is on a different host # than used for NNTP posting. Examples: News *[] or News *{host3/nntp}[] # Syntax: optnl-label *{news-host/protocol}[] news-collections= # List of folder pairs; the first indicates a folder to archive, and the # second indicates the folder read messages in the first should # be moved to. incoming-archive-folders= # List of context and folder pairs, delimited by a space, to be offered for # pruning each month. For example: {host1}mail/[] mumble pruned-folders= # Over-rides default path for sent-mail folder, e.g. =old-mail (using first # folder collection dir) or ={host2}sent-mail or ="" (to suppress saving). # Default: sent-mail (Unix) or SENTMAIL.MTX (PC) in default folder collection. default-fcc= # Over-rides default path for saved-msg folder, e.g. =saved-messages (using first # folder collection dir) or ={host2}saved-mail or ="" (to suppress saving). # Default: saved-messages (Unix) or SAVEMAIL.MTX (PC) in default folder collection. default-saved-msg-folder= # Over-rides default path for postponed messages folder, e.g. =pm (which uses # first folder collection dir) or ={host4}pm (using home dir on host4). # Default: postponed-msgs (Unix) or POSTPOND.MTX (PC) in default fldr coltn. postponed-folder=POSTPOND # If set, specifies where already-read messages will be moved upon quitting. read-message-folder=READ # Over-rides default path for signature file. Default is ~/.signature signature-file= # List of file or path names for global/shared addressbook(s). # Default: none # Syntax: optnl-label path-name global-address-book= # List of file or path names for personal addressbook(s). # Default: ~/.addressbook (Unix) or \PINE\ADDRBOOK (PC) # Syntax: optnl-label path-name address-book= ############################### Preferences ################################ # List of features; see Pine's Setup/options menu for the current set. # e.g. feature-list= select-without-confirm, signature-at-bottom # Default condition for all of the features is no-. feature-list=enable-incoming-folders, enable-mail-check-cue, quit-without-confirm, save-will-advance, show-cursor, expunge-without-confirm # Pine executes these keys upon startup (e.g. to view msg 13: i,j,1,3,CR,v) initial-keystroke-list= # Only show these headers (by default) when composing messages default-composer-hdrs= # Add these customized headers (and possible default values) when composing customized-hdrs= # When viewing messages, include this list of headers viewer-hdrs= # Determines default folder name for Saves... # Choices: default-folder, by-sender, by-from, by-recipient, last-folder-used. # Default: "default-folder", i.e. "saved-messages" (Unix) or "SAVEMAIL" (PC). saved-msg-name-rule= # Determines default name for Fcc... # Choices: default-fcc, by-recipient, last-fcc-used. # Default: "default-fcc" (see also "default-fcc=" variable.) fcc-name-rule= # Sets presentation order of messages in Index. Choices: # subject, from, arrival, date, size. Default: "arrival". sort-key= # Sets presentation order of address book entries. Choices: dont-sort, # fullname-with-lists-last, fullname, nickname-with-lists-last, nickname # Default: "fullname-with-lists-last". addrbook-sort-rule= # Sets the default folder and collectionoffered at the Goto Command's prompt. goto-default-rule= # Reflects capabilities of the display you have. Default: US-ASCII. # Typical alternatives include ISO-8859-x, (x is a number between 1 and 9). character-set= # Specifies the program invoked by ^_ in the Composer, # or the "enable-alternate-editor-implicitly" feature. editor= # Specifies the program invoked by ^T in the Composer. speller= # Specifies the column of the screen where the composer should wrap. composer-wrap-column= # Specifies the string to insert when replying to message. reply-indent-string= # Specifies the string to use when sending a message with no to or cc. empty-header-message= # Program to view images (e.g. GIF or TIFF attachments). image-viewer= # If "user-domain" not set, strips hostname in FROM address. (Unix only) use-only-domain-name= ########## Set within or by Pine: No need to edit below this line ########## # Your default printer selection printer= # List of special print commands personal-print-command= # Which category default print command is in personal-print-category= # Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. last-time-prune-questioned=96.10 # Set by Pine; controls display of "new version" message. last-version-used=3.95 # This names the path to an alternative program, and any necessary arguments, # to be used in posting mail messages. Example: # /usr/lib/sendmail -oem -t -oi # or, # /usr/local/bin/sendit.sh # The latter a script found in Pine distribution's contrib/util directory. # NOTE: The program MUST read the message to be posted on standard input, # AND operate in the style of sendmail's "-t" option. sendmail-path= # This names the root of the tree to which the user is restricted when reading # and writing folders and files. For example, on Unix ~/work confines the # user to the subtree beginning with their work subdirectory. # (Note: this alone is not sufficient for preventing access. You will also # need to restrict shell access and so on, see Pine Technical Notes.) # Default: not set (so no restriction) operating-dir= # This variable takes a list of programs that message text is piped into # after MIME decoding, prior to display. display-filters= # This defines a program that message text is piped into before MIME # encoding, prior to sending sending-filters= # A list of alternate addresses the user is known by alt-addresses= # This is a list of formats for address books. Each entry in the list is made # up of space-delimited tokens telling which fields are displayed and in # which order. See help text addressbook-formats= # This gives a format for displaying the index. It is made # up of space-delimited tokens telling which fields are displayed and in # which order. See help text index-format= # The number of lines of overlap when scrolling through message text viewer-overlap=1 # Number of lines from top and bottom of screen where single # line scrolling occurs. scroll-margin= # The number of seconds to sleep after writing a status message status-message-delay=5 # The approximate number of seconds between checks for new mail mail-check-interval= # Full path and name of NEWSRC file newsrc-path= # Path and filename of news configation's active file. # The default is typically "/usr/lib/news/active". news-active-file-path= # Directory containing system's news data. # The default is typically "/usr/spool/news" news-spool-directory= # Path and filename of the program used to upload text from your terminal # emulator's into Pine's composer. upload-command= # Text sent to terminal emulator prior to invoking the program defined by # the upload-command variable. # Note: _FILE_ will be replaced with the temporary file used in the upload. upload-command-prefix= # Path and filename of the program used to download text via your terminal # emulator from Pine's export and save commands. download-command= # Text sent to terminal emulator prior to invoking the program defined by # the download-command variable. # Note: _FILE_ will be replaced with the temporary file used in the downlaod. download-command-prefix= # Sets the search path for the mailcap cofiguration file. # NOTE: colon delimited under UNIX, semi-colon delimited under DOS/Windows/OS2. mailcap-search-path= # Sets the search path for the mimetypes cofiguration file. # NOTE: colon delimited under UNIX, semi-colon delimited under DOS/Windows/OS2. mimetype-search-path= # Sets the time in seconds that Pine will attempt to open a network # connection. The default is 30, the minimum is 5, and the maximum is # system defined (typically 75). tcp-open-timeout=60 # Sets the time in seconds that Pine will attempt to open a UNIX remote # shell connection. The default is 15, min is 5, and max is unlimited. # Zero disables rsh altogether. rsh-open-timeout=30 # Sets the version number Pine will use as a threshold for offering # its new version message on startup. new-version-threshold= # Extension used for local folder names (".MTX" by default). folder-extension=.mtx # Choose: black,blue,green,cyan,red,magenta,yellow,or white (CAPS=BLINKING). normal-foreground-color= normal-background-color= reverse-foreground-color= reverse-background-color= --------------3D6E46CF126B-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 21:54:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13690; Thu, 31 Oct 96 21:54:48 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) id VAA21266 for pine-info-out; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 21:51:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.2+UW96.10/8.8.2+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA21262 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 21:51:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vJCUO-00038cC; Thu, 31 Oct 96 21:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: R R Neuswanger Subject: Re: Convert Address Lists between Mail Programs Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:25:24 -0500 Message-Id: References: <55avct$l75@saltmine.radix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <55avct$l75@saltmine.radix.net> Neither your page nor your message mentions Groupwise -- any hope? R R (Beartooth) Neuswanger, Ph D, NRA-L rrne@loc.gov Better to hunt, while strength lasts, than I speak for me. Only. eat or sleep.