From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 1 01:31:53 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 01:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26193; Thu, 1 Aug 96 01:31:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19965; Thu, 1 Aug 96 01:28:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.germany.eu.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19959; Thu, 1 Aug 96 01:27:51 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59:24/EUnetD-2.5.4.c) via EUnet id KAA12754; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 10:27:43 +0200 Message-Id: <199608010825.KAA15869@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id KAA15869; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 10:25:18 +0200 From: Rudolf Kompf Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 10:26:13 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: kompf@m_post.ife-le.de To: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Check of Incoming Message Folders Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII After a have executed the following steps in Pine 3.92: - open an Incoming Message Folder other than INBOX and read a mail but leave others intact at status NEW; - open INBOX and read mail; - check the Incoming Message Folders with TAB; then Pine is saying "No more incoming folders". I think Pine should go to the Incoming Message Folder with the new mail messages. Is this a bug? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 1 01:34:48 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 01:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26250; Thu, 1 Aug 96 01:34:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02515; Thu, 1 Aug 96 01:30:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02509; Thu, 1 Aug 96 01:30:36 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 1 Aug 1996 09:26:41 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA26900; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 09:28:32 +0100 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 09:28:32 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: chetanvr@msuvx2.memphis.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC-Pine for MAC In-Reply-To: <1996Jul31.150454@msuvx1.memphis.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 31 Jul 1996 chetanvr@msuvx2.memphis.edu wrote: > is there a PC-Pine program for Macintosh operating system? No. > is there a similar mail program for Macintosh operating system? Yes. Mail Drop is free; Mulberry is commercial (about 30 pounds). > please let me know of the ftp site where the program is available. Mail Drop can be obtained from ftp://ackmo.baylor.edu/pub/bell/Mail_Drop/ For information about Mulberry e-mail its author at: Cyrus Daboo See also The IMAP Connection for more information about IMAP clients: http://www.imap.org/ Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 1 01:39:02 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 01:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26316; Thu, 1 Aug 96 01:39:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02555; Thu, 1 Aug 96 01:34:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02549; Thu, 1 Aug 96 01:34:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ultCY-00038UC; Thu, 1 Aug 96 01:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Schleichert Subject: Save newgroups list Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 10:19:02 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a way to save the newsgroups list to a local file? I'd like to browse it offline in a text processor. - Hans From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 1 01:46:16 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 01:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26350; Thu, 1 Aug 96 01:46:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20288; Thu, 1 Aug 96 01:44:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20282; Thu, 1 Aug 96 01:44:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ultIJ-00038BC; Thu, 1 Aug 96 01:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thu@satellite.oulu.fi (Thomas Ulich) Subject: Re: routers, gateway Date: 31 Jul 1996 13:29:54 GMT Message-Id: <4tnn4i$50a@ousrvr3.oulu.fi> References: <31FD07E8.CD4@opal.tufts.edu> <4tnmvs$50a@ousrvr3.oulu.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thomas Ulich (thu@satellite.oulu.fi) wrote: : Replace machine.name with the correct one. Example: My mails come from : "thu@aurora.sgo.fi", so the first machine receiving my e-mail is : "aurora.sgo.fi" and there's a line in the header saying: : : Received at (time, date) from (somewhere) by aurora.sgo.fi ... : : Then you type: : : traceroute aurora.sgo.fi : OOOOPS! I recently changed my account, and got messed up. It should not be "aurora.sgo.fi", but instead "satellite.oulu.fi". Sorry for the mistake, I hope you did not start to find the aurora in this header desperately... :-) -- Thomas Ulich NEW e-mail: thomas.ulich@sgo.fi www: http://cc.oulu.fi/~thu/ Inuit say: He who looks long upon the aurora soon goes mad. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 1 02:02:07 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 02:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26531; Thu, 1 Aug 96 02:02:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02953; Thu, 1 Aug 96 01:59:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02947; Thu, 1 Aug 96 01:59:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ultXw-00038BC; Thu, 1 Aug 96 01:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: marc@hwsys.com Subject: dos based email prog Date: 1 Aug 1996 08:53:08 GMT Message-Id: <4tpr9k$apg@news.genuity.net> References: 199607291922.PAA10708@rmc1.crocker.com On 1996-07-29 toby said: >Any idea where I can get a DOS based email programme? I use Eudora >on one computer with Windows, but I have a secretary using a 286 >(yes, really) without Windows and I want her to be able to access >email >Thanks for your help >Toby A.O. Holmes [The following message I originally posted on my local ISP/BBS. You might] [find it useful. The mail programs support POP3 also. ] Howdy all, It's been a couple of months and I never thought about posting an update. I've been doing a lot of slip/ppp stuff on this here XT. No need for Windows here. Once I get a VGA adapter then things get better as I have no graphic web capabilities yet. Packet Drivers: Quakeppp works fine. Uses Klos Technologies PPP drivers/software. Dialer/terminal program can connect via scripts or manually. Etherppp works fine too but it's a memory hog. Causes some programs to error out like PC-Pine and Minuet. Slipper/Cslipper work flawlessly. Need dialer program or terminal software to connect first. Clients: Minuet. Integrated tools. Telnet, mail, gopher, ping, finger, news, web, ftp. Web does not support forms. Can't use News as it doesn't work on Stacker drive. Minuet is my main program for mail, gopher and ftp. Requires dial-up program. Companion UMSlip/phone package works fine. I use phone to load cslipper. Net-Tamer. Integrated tools. Telnet, mail, ping, web, news, ftp. Built-in PPP using scripts or dumb terminal mode. I'm using XT/286 version which does not support graphics/sound. Web leaves a lot to be desired. Reader module allows for offline newsgroup reading. My main program for usenet. You can download only subject headers so you can then pick which full messages to download for reading. Pretty cool. Three versions available: 386 (graphics, sound, fonts), XT/286, and Palmtop (no graphics/sound on last two). Latest versions at http://people.delphi.com/davidcolston/ NCSA Telnet w/FTP. Very good package. Also includes whois, finger, rsh/rexec, etc. CUTCP Telnet w/FTP. Based on NCSA work. Includes printing utilities like lpr/lpq/etc. TN3270 also. Trumpet. Cool nntp news reader. Not offline but windowing/menuing. DOSLynx. World Wide Web browser. Not a port of Unix Lynx. Too bad. Uses Borland Turbovision interface (like Minuet/Trumpet). Slow, buggy, crash prone. In alpha and doesn't seem to be supported. POPMail. Pre-Minuet. No longer supported. Incorporated into Minuet. Includes Webster module (not in Minuet). Includes telnet, finger, ping. PC-Gopher III. Pre-Minuet. No longer supported. Incorporated into Minuet. The version I use(d) is pretty fast with windows opening all over the place with no memory problems. Later version (1.1.x?) had major memory problems. NuPOP. POP mail. Based on Minnesota code (POPMail/PC-Gopher/Minuet). Telnet, ping, finger, and quite a few more. Will call external programs like Trumpet, html viewers, graphics viewers, etc. Those are some of the cool programs that work (except DOSLynx). Minuet, NuPOP, POPMail, PC-Gopher III, Trumpet, and DOSLynx use the Borland Turbovision interface so they're full windowing/mouseable programs. Tried PC-Pine but couldn't get it to work. Probably since Annex doesn't use the unix box/pine to receive mail anymore. Experimenting with Yarn (usenet SOUP) offline reader but haven't got it to work yet. Need the correct programs to import the packets. The big wish list is for someone to actually port Lynx to dos, usable on 8088/8086/80286. Anyhind, I'm having fun. Marc [ New note: the U of Minnesota programs (Minuet, POPMail, etc.) can use ] [ the MYIP variable if you have dynamic IP addressing. If you use a ] [ terminal program to log on first and then log off, and assuming you ] [ wrote down your IP address, you can type "set MYIP=123.456.789.000" ] [ and the programs will work without you going into the setup menus ] [ each time. UMSlip's phone package will also automatically create the ] [ necessary batch file automatically. There are other utilities for getting ] [ around dynamic IP problems. Even a bootp emulator. ] ] [ These programs were tested on my lowly Tandy 1000 HX and the following ] [ ftp site owner's 286 Tandy. ] [ ftp://ftp.agate.net/users/01935/(internet & incoming directories) ] >> ANIME SENSHI << Marc D. Williams marcw@bbs.annex.com > Annex! Online (if email replying, use this) marc@hwsys.com > Interludes marcwilliams@bbs.phantasy.com > Phantasy marcwilliams@bbs.story.com > Westwood Storyboard marc.williams@idibbs.com > Idaho Interactive BBS himmler@dkeep.com > Dragon Keep 926 Judith Street Baldwin Park, CA 91706-5836 (818) 338-2708 .. Ten years and my Tandy 1000 HX is still going strong! -!- þ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] þ `[1;37;42mNet-Tamer V 1.05.1 - Test Drive From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 1 04:59:19 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 04:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27481; Thu, 1 Aug 96 04:59:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22534; Thu, 1 Aug 96 04:54:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22528; Thu, 1 Aug 96 04:54:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ulwKH-00038BC; Thu, 1 Aug 96 04:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: goto a line number in pico Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 12:45:53 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4tosnv$1bu@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4tosnv$1bu@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> On 31 Jul 1996, Tim Mooney wrote: :> :>Thanks for the info. I had tried the +n command line option and it did work, :>but I have users that know only pico as a Unix editor and need to be able to :>move around in source files and make modifications (perhaps fixing errors :>while trying to get something to compile). If there are 10 errors on :>various lines in a large file, it's a PITA to have to make a change, save :>your change, quit pico, and then resart with some new +N linenumber to go :>to the next error. A number of users had asked if there was a better way. :>Now I can tell them definitively, "Not with pico." :> Surely the control-W command to scan for text gives them what they want? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 1223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 1 06:23:08 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 06:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20315; Thu, 1 Aug 96 06:23:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06001; Thu, 1 Aug 96 06:19:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05995; Thu, 1 Aug 96 06:19:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ulxbp-00038BC; Thu, 1 Aug 96 06:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: PC-Pine for MAC Date: 1 Aug 1996 12:32:35 GMT Message-Id: <4tq853$ikd@babbage.ece.uc.edu> References: <1996Jul31.150454@msuvx1.memphis.edu> In-Reply-To: <1996Jul31.150454@msuvx1.memphis.edu> In article <1996Jul31.150454@msuvx1.memphis.edu>, chetanvr@cc.memphis.edu writes: > >is there a PC-Pine program for Macintosh operating system? > >is there a similar mail program for Macintosh operating system? > >please let me know of the ftp site where the program is available. Although there is no Mac-Pine, there are some freeware POP3/IMAP clients on the Internet. Eudora-Lite is very popular. POPMail from U. of MN is also very good (my favorite). You can find them in the info-mac archive, or the U. MI archive. Cheers! Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu for my PGP pub. key= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 1 06:47:43 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 06:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28149; Thu, 1 Aug 96 06:47:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23877; Thu, 1 Aug 96 06:45:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from frank.mtsu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23871; Thu, 1 Aug 96 06:45:18 -0700 Received: from localhost by frank.mtsu.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA055537174; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 08:46:14 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 08:46:14 -0500 (CDT) From: "Hiram Lester Jr." To: Barry Landy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: goto a line number in pico In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Barry Landy wrote: > Surely the control-W command to scan for text gives them what they want? Provided you know what you are looking for. An extra option on the Control-W command to enter a line number would be a nice addition though. +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Hiram W. Lester, Jr. | E-Mail: hwlester@pobox.com | | Computer Science | Homepage: | | Middle Tennessee State University | http://pobox.com/~hwlester/ | +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 1 06:52:13 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 06:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28183; Thu, 1 Aug 96 06:52:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23917; Thu, 1 Aug 96 06:47:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from frank.mtsu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23911; Thu, 1 Aug 96 06:47:47 -0700 Received: from localhost by frank.mtsu.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA057847347; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 08:49:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 08:49:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "Hiram Lester Jr." To: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: Check of Incoming Message Folders In-Reply-To: <199608010825.KAA15869@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Rudolf Kompf wrote: > After a have executed the following steps in Pine 3.92: > > - open an Incoming Message Folder other than INBOX and read a mail but > leave others intact at status NEW; > - open INBOX and read mail; > - check the Incoming Message Folders with TAB; > > then Pine is saying "No more incoming folders". I think Pine should go to > the Incoming Message Folder with the new mail messages. > Is this a bug? I've noticed this behaviour in 3.93, 3.94, and 3.95 as well. If you check a folder with new messages, it seems to be taken out of the new mail queue until additional new messages appear in it. Pine is probably using the last accessed time on the file and not the newmail flags to make that determination. +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Hiram W. Lester, Jr. | E-Mail: hwlester@pobox.com | | Computer Science | Homepage: | | Middle Tennessee State University | http://pobox.com/~hwlester/ | +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 1 07:38:55 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 07:38:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28757; Thu, 1 Aug 96 07:38:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24608; Thu, 1 Aug 96 07:35:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24602; Thu, 1 Aug 96 07:35:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ulynG-00038BC; Thu, 1 Aug 96 07:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Al Byers Subject: Command line pine Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 09:31:02 -0400 Message-Id: <3200B196.629A@cfw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry if I missed the answer to this from an earlier posting, but I followed it till it left my server. I need to attach a large file to a mail message so that it can be detached via ccMail. Pine works fine, but metasend does not (puts it in the body of the message). The trouble is that I want to automate the process and I don't know how to do it in pine. I thought that I could kludge it using the -i or -I (which one?) option, but I don't know how to encode new lines, so it puts everything into the "To:" field. Can anyone help with this? How do I embedded CR (CR doesn't work) in the keystroke list? -- Al Byers Automation Group of Virginia, Inc. byersa@cfw.com P.O. Box 1091 540.949.8777 Waynesboro, VA 22980 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 1 11:35:50 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 11:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02182; Thu, 1 Aug 96 11:09:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29826; Thu, 1 Aug 96 11:05:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29814; Thu, 1 Aug 96 11:05:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0um27g-00038TC; Thu, 1 Aug 96 11:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Short Replies Not Allowed by Pine3.95 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 14:34:39 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 29 Jul 1996, jim eagle wrote: > OK ... when I attempt to give a short reply to a newsgroup message using > Pine3.95, I am sometimes not allowed to post because I am re-using more > lines from the previous email than I am adding of my own. I suspect that this is not a feature of pine, but of the newserver you are posting through. So you should raise the question to your local news admin. The "rule" is also generally considered a good one. We don't want lots of messages which quote entire articles and then say "I agree" or something like that. > This is > moderately annoying, and encourages me to pad my reply with blank lines. I should encourage you to rethink whether your posting is necessary or in the best form. If you decide it is, you can always pad as you do. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 1 11:36:27 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 11:36:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00077; Thu, 1 Aug 96 10:09:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28416; Thu, 1 Aug 96 10:06:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28410; Thu, 1 Aug 96 10:06:55 -0700 Received: from necro (root@pm2-adr25.interl.net [205.244.161.25]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA07195; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 12:05:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 12:06:44 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Englander X-Sender: root@necro To: "Hiram Lester Jr." Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Overriding From In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 31 Jul 1996, Hiram Lester Jr. wrote: > If you are building your own copy of Pine, you can compile it with the > option of changing the From: line in the customized headers section of the > setup. The switch allowing that is in one of the os_xx.h files. This is > what I do. I have a customized header defined as > > From: "Hiram Lester Jr." > > The original sender will still appear in the X-Sender or X-X-Sender line. Thanks! I copied the 3.95 pre-compiled binaries over what came with Slackware 3.0 (v3.91 I think), but I got the source and as you can see it works fine. The problem was that according to my ISP's startup instructions, they say to just use interl.net as the domain name. Problem is that the head of my ISP is root@inter.net, so he wasn't too happy to get several replies intended for me. Hopefully now, even with X-Sender/X-X-Sender being there, there will be a 1 in 1,000,000 chance of it happening again. I changed my domainname to fakename.inter.net too, just out of paranoia :) Oh, and BTW, do you think that the quotes around your 'real name' actually matter? I've seen MANY posts with quotes, and just as many without. Thanks, Jason =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jason Englander -=- Burlington, IA - USA E-mail: jasoneng@interl.net WWW: http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 1 11:36:37 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 11:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32558; Thu, 1 Aug 96 10:04:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10883; Thu, 1 Aug 96 10:00:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10877; Thu, 1 Aug 96 10:00:27 -0700 Received: from necro (root@pm2-adr25.interl.net [205.244.161.25]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA07049 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 11:58:38 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 12:00:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Englander X-Sender: root@necro To: pine-info Subject: Sig w/ fortune? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm running Pine 3.95 under Linux and I was wondering if anyone had ideas for including a random fortune into messages that I compose. I'd like something similar to adding 'taglines' (a FidoNet thing...). Maybe a script to add a fortune to the .signature file or something with Pine's filtering? Jason =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jason Englander -=- Burlington, IA - USA E-mail: jasoneng@interl.net WWW: http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 1 11:50:36 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 11:50:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02807; Thu, 1 Aug 96 11:23:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13140; Thu, 1 Aug 96 11:20:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13132; Thu, 1 Aug 96 11:20:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0um2Hk-00038BC; Thu, 1 Aug 96 11:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brian Bell Subject: Upload subcommand problem Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 13:42:48 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In the PINE 3.95 (UX) configuration screen there is an option to allow uploads via protocol (such as Zmodem) directly into the editor. I've configured the upload to call "rz" which seems to be running, (the command "rz: ready to receive usr/pub/"tempfilename" appears) but the upload never commences when I go to send via zmodem. Is there anything that needs to be added to the "rz" command to get it to commence? Thank you, -=BB Brian Bell bbell19@nwlink.com http://www.nwlink.com/~bbell19/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 1 11:55:00 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 11:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04098; Thu, 1 Aug 96 11:54:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01163; Thu, 1 Aug 96 11:50:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01153; Thu, 1 Aug 96 11:50:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0um2nX-00038BC; Thu, 1 Aug 96 11:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Martin Struwe Subject: Re: Sig w/ fortune? Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 20:12:56 +0200 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 1 Aug 1996, Jason Englander wrote: > I'm running Pine 3.95 under Linux and I was wondering if anyone had ideas > for including a random fortune into messages that I compose. I'm using an external Editor: vim -c "$ | r! fortune -s" doesn't work, because I can't use Quotes. So I use "vim -s fort" and wrote the vim-script fort: :$^Mo--^[:r! fortune -s^M > Maybe a script to add a fortune to the .signature file or something with > Pine's filtering? I think, the sending filter is too late, because I want to see what I'm sending. Greetings, Maletin. -- Strategy: A long-range plan whose merit cannot be evaluated until sometime after those creating it have left the organization. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 1 12:08:56 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 12:08:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04107; Thu, 1 Aug 96 12:08:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14502; Thu, 1 Aug 96 12:05:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14496; Thu, 1 Aug 96 12:05:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0um33a-00038TC; Thu, 1 Aug 96 12:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: how to disable "User known" message Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 00:45:02 +0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, A.T. Phillips wrote: > I tried the "quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file" but that seemed > to make no difference. I still get the error. So .... > what does "quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file" do? And is there > another answer to my original posting? Well, I suppose I should have read the help instead of guessing. You could go to the config and put your cursor on the quell...and hit "?" to get a full description...but an excerpt shows: FEATURE: quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file This feature controls an aspect of Pine's Composer, and if needed, will usually be set by your system manager in Pine's system-wide configuration file. Specifically, if this feature is set, Pine will not attempt to look in the system password file to find a Full Name for the entered address. Which is not what you wanted.... I'm not sure why you'd want to send an email only to have it rejected. So, having it rejected before actually sending it seems like a nice feature.... But, why now try setting the SMTP host to the value of that of the local system. That may get you the funtion you desire. Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 1 12:48:47 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 12:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26415; Thu, 1 Aug 96 12:48:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02668; Thu, 1 Aug 96 12:45:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02662; Thu, 1 Aug 96 12:45:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0um3dl-00038BC; Thu, 1 Aug 96 12:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sf7pdgnp@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (Steve Baetzner) Subject: import Date: 1 Aug 1996 11:05:26 GMT Message-Id: <4tq31n$3l6@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> I have two questions: one, how does one delete extra folders in the folder directory? Two: how does one import text into PINE e-mail message so that it is viewable by recipient? Thanks. -- STEVE BAETZNER From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 1 13:43:08 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 13:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06072; Thu, 1 Aug 96 13:43:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16885; Thu, 1 Aug 96 13:40:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16879; Thu, 1 Aug 96 13:40:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0um4VB-00038BC; Thu, 1 Aug 96 13:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rfunk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Rob Funk) Subject: Re: Pine and Netscape Date: 1 Aug 1996 15:22:50 GMT Message-Id: <4tqi4a$gq5@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <199607311125.NAA28012@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> <4tqcl2$ou4@shlnews.grtadv.shl.com> In article <4tqcl2$ou4@shlnews.grtadv.shl.com>, Jeffrey Veiss wrote: >Keep in mind, however, that by default, POP3 will copy all your mail to your >local machine and remove it from the server. Not POP3 itself, only Pine's handling of it. POP3 requires that each message be retrieved individually, and to remove a message from a POP3 server, a client needs to explicitly issue the DELE command. -- ============= R o b F u n k =============|=========> funk+@osu.edu <========= "A microscope locked in on one point |rfunk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Never sees what kind of room that it's in"|rfunk@freenet.columbus.oh.us -- Chris Mars, "Stuck in Rewind" |http://er4www.eng.ohio-state.edu/~funkr From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 1 13:58:48 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 13:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06347; Thu, 1 Aug 96 13:58:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04392; Thu, 1 Aug 96 13:56:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04386; Thu, 1 Aug 96 13:55:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0um4kU-00038BC; Thu, 1 Aug 96 13:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Problem w/ PINE addressbook Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 14:21:04 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: The .addressbook.lu file is used to speed up access to large addressbooks. The format has changed a few times, so Pine needs to rebuild it when you change Pine versions. Also, if Pine is unable to write the .addressbook.lu file in the same directory as the .addressbook file, it will write a temporary copy that is only kept for the current session. Check to see if there is some reason that Pine cannot write your .addressbook.lu file... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 23 Jul 1996, partner wrote: > From: partner > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Problem w/ PINE addressbook > Date: 23 Jul 1996 11:10:58 -0700 > Organization: PSGnet mail to news gate > Sender: nobody@psg.com > Message-ID: > NNTP-Posting-Host: rain.psg.com > X-M2n: psg.com > > Don't know when it happened, but now when I go into addressbook the FIRST > time during a PINE session, a message flashes across the status line(?) > (down near the bottom), which says (approx) addressbook.lu is > invalid, rebuilding. It does that. Nothing else happens, and my > addressbook seems to work OK. What does that mean? How can I fix it? > > I've asked "vnet.net" provider, but they have not been able to help. > > Any suggestions? > > -- > Lou Weber > Computer Assist > 918 Nottingham Drive > Charlotte, NC 28211 > Voice/Fax 704/364-8090 > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 1 14:58:43 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 14:58:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07725; Thu, 1 Aug 96 14:58:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18817; Thu, 1 Aug 96 14:56:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18811; Thu, 1 Aug 96 14:56:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0um5ee-00038BC; Thu, 1 Aug 96 14:51 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: evelyn@cc.wwu.edu (Evelyn Albrecht) Subject: Re: goto a line number in pico Date: 1 Aug 1996 11:32:24 -0700 Message-Id: <4tqt7o$d6a@henson.cc.wwu.edu> References: <4tosnv$1bu@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) writes: >Thanks for the info. I had tried the +n command line option and it did work, >but I have users that know only pico as a Unix editor and need to be able to >move around in source files and make modifications (perhaps fixing errors >while trying to get something to compile). If there are 10 errors on >various lines in a large file, it's a PITA to have to make a change, save >your change, quit pico, and then resart with some new +N linenumber to go >to the next error. A number of users had asked if there was a better way. >Now I can tell them definitively, "Not with pico." But the search command (^W), can be used in many cases, particularly when you're correcting typos, which tend to be unique. Evelyn -- |Evelyn Albrecht Ph: (360) 650-3239 | |Academic Computing Services Internet: evelyn@henson.cc.wwu.edu | |Western Washington Univ. | |Bellingham, WA 98225-9094 | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 16:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08793; Thu, 1 Aug 96 16:03:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07804; Thu, 1 Aug 96 16:01:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07796; Thu, 1 Aug 96 16:01:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0um6ig-00038BC; Thu, 1 Aug 96 15:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) Date: 30 Jul 1996 09:15:58 GMT Message-Id: Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel MMF spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Original Subject: An Opportunity to make Money!!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 17:18:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10100; Thu, 1 Aug 96 17:18:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22401; Thu, 1 Aug 96 17:16:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22395; Thu, 1 Aug 96 17:16:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0um7qc-00038BC; Thu, 1 Aug 96 17:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sf7pdgnp@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (Steve Baetzner) Subject: dl to flop Date: 1 Aug 1996 23:34:37 GMT Message-Id: <4treud$5vt@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> HI. What's the technique for dlownloading a file to my b: drive? Thanks. -- STEVE BAETZNER From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 17:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10338; Thu, 1 Aug 96 17:20:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09763; Thu, 1 Aug 96 17:16:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09757; Thu, 1 Aug 96 17:16:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0um7sw-00038TC; Thu, 1 Aug 96 17:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edpaolo@intac.com (Ed Paolo) Subject: Pine won't do spell function ? Date: 1 Aug 1996 23:55:38 GMT Message-Id: <4trg5q$nvi@uucp.intac.com> I just switched IP's and this Pine 3.91 won't do 'Spell check' - ctl-T. I get a 'user/bin/spell: file not found'. I went to the 'user/bin' directory and I do not see spell or even Ispell. But if I type spell + file it kicks back bad words. My question would be how can I check all the dirs for spell or ispell to see where it is located ? -- EdDataFix edpaolo@nile.intac.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 18:16:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10765; Thu, 1 Aug 96 18:16:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23393; Thu, 1 Aug 96 18:13:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from www.gnofn.org by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23387; Thu, 1 Aug 96 18:13:42 -0700 Received: from [206.27.175.33] ([206.27.175.33]) by www.gnofn.org (8.7.Beta.10/8.7.Beta.10) with SMTP id UAA22106 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 20:17:07 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: www.gnofn.org: Host [206.27.175.33] didn't use HELO protocol Message-Id: <320173FC.1034@www.gnofn.org> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 20:20:28 -0700 From: Kelly Mc Donald X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Errors in sending mail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have PCPine version 3.91 and when I try to send mail there is a message saying that something has failed. I'm not sure what has failed, but I think something is wring in my configuration. The mail is sent, but not copied into my sentmail folder. I also cannot get into my inbox through pine mail. When I try to enter that folder it tells me that my sentmail folder is being reopened. I think the root of my problem is that someone tampered with my configuration....Is there any way to reset my configuration to its default settings?? Kelly kmcdonal@www.gnofn.org From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 19:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11577; Thu, 1 Aug 96 19:58:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24969; Thu, 1 Aug 96 19:56:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24963; Thu, 1 Aug 96 19:56:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umAOC-00038BC; Thu, 1 Aug 96 19:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bent@snm.com (Ben Taylor) Subject: Re: 3.95 FREEZES Solaris 2.4 x86 box? Date: 26 Jul 1996 14:35:17 GMT Message-Id: <4tal35$as@galleon.netjammer.com> References: <4sn597$1s3@spieg.interealm.com> Roby Sherman (roby@spieg.interealm.com) wrote: : I never thought I would see the day that PINE would take down my solaris : server but 3.95 has done it twice. I don't know what causes it just yet, : but the process just starts eating up CPU time until the system : grinds to a halt. Has anyone else experienced this or heard about this problem : and hopefully a workaround? I have been having this problem with the most recent version since 3.93. I have a call into Sun on this issue, and they are working through the core dumps I generate using kadb. How I found this was to access an IMAP mailbox without using rsh ( {host:143}/var/mail/bent ) and the system completely hangs. Mouse is dead, doesn't respond to pings, Control-C does not break. It's completely dead. I don't have this problem using the Sparc version, so I'm wondering what's up with this. Unfortunately, the core files show very little information, and we're trying to figure out other ways to make sure enough info is in the core dump. This is a big pain. : : --Roby : -- : --roby@nexus.interealm.com--------------------------------------Aurora, CO-- : | "The journey of 1000 miles begins with a cash advance..." | : ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ben Taylor Smoke N' Mirrors, Inc. bent@snm.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 20:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12138; Thu, 1 Aug 96 20:14:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12595; Thu, 1 Aug 96 20:11:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12589; Thu, 1 Aug 96 20:11:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umAcz-00038BC; Thu, 1 Aug 96 20:10 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Pine and Netscape Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 14:14:01 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4tng5i$6l5@rain.psg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4tng5i$6l5@rain.psg.com> On 31 Jul 1996, Rudolf Kompf wrote: > My local Pine accesses remote inbox on our central mailhost via imap; it > works fine. Is there a possibility to read incoming mail from my local Netscape > viewer? Only when netscape's browser supports IMAP. Netscape have announced plans to support IMAP. -jeff -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 20:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12193; Thu, 1 Aug 96 20:17:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25322; Thu, 1 Aug 96 20:15:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from frank.mtsu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25316; Thu, 1 Aug 96 20:15:57 -0700 Received: from localhost by frank.mtsu.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA037705839; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 22:17:19 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 22:17:18 -0500 (CDT) From: "Hiram Lester Jr." To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: import In-Reply-To: <4tq31n$3l6@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 1 Aug 1996, Steve Baetzner wrote: > I have two questions: one, how does one delete extra folders in the folder > directory? Go into the L)ist folders screen, and highlight the folder you wish to delete, and press D)elete. > Two: how does one import text into PINE e-mail message so > that it is viewable by recipient? Thanks. In the composer, use the Control-R (Read File) command and enter the filename or use the file browser with Control-T. +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Hiram W. Lester, Jr. | E-Mail: hwlester@pobox.com | | Computer Science | Homepage: | | Middle Tennessee State University | http://pobox.com/~hwlester/ | +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 20:22:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12198; Thu, 1 Aug 96 20:22:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12705; Thu, 1 Aug 96 20:20:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from frank.mtsu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12699; Thu, 1 Aug 96 20:20:15 -0700 Received: from localhost by frank.mtsu.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA042056095; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 22:21:35 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 22:21:35 -0500 (CDT) From: "Hiram Lester Jr." To: Ed Paolo Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine won't do spell function ? In-Reply-To: <4trg5q$nvi@uucp.intac.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 1 Aug 1996, Ed Paolo wrote: > I just switched IP's and this Pine 3.91 won't do 'Spell check' - > ctl-T. I get a 'user/bin/spell: file not found'. I went to the 'user/bin' > directory and I do not see spell or even Ispell. But if I type spell + file > it kicks back bad words. My question would be how can I check all the dirs > for spell or ispell to see where it is located ? Well, there are several ways to do this. If you happen to be using tcsh as your shell, you can type spell and press ESC followed by the ? key to get tcsh to show you what the path to the command is. This only works if the command is in your path (which it obviously is). Another way is to type 'where spell'. I'm not sure under what conditions this works, but it will probably show the executable and the man page both. If worse comes to worse, you can use the find command as such: find / -name spell -print The disadvantage is that it will search the entire file system and will return errors for directories you don't have access to. +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Hiram W. Lester, Jr. | E-Mail: hwlester@pobox.com | | Computer Science | Homepage: | | Middle Tennessee State University | http://pobox.com/~hwlester/ | +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 20:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12241; Thu, 1 Aug 96 20:23:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25423; Thu, 1 Aug 96 20:21:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25411; Thu, 1 Aug 96 20:21:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umAkc-00038BC; Thu, 1 Aug 96 20:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: markm@voicenet.com (Mark M.) Subject: Re: What is Bounce? Date: 01 Aug 1996 22:48:41 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4to90t$l8@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> In-Reply-To: abe0084@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca's message of 31 Jul 1996 18:35:09 In article <4to90t$l8@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> abe0084@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (Adam Vardy) writes: > Can anyone tell me what on earth Bounce does? Bounce redirects a message to a specified address. All the headers are kept, and "Resent-From:" and "Resent-Date:" are added. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 22:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01510; Thu, 1 Aug 96 22:10:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14023; Thu, 1 Aug 96 22:08:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vigrid.cfar.umd.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14017; Thu, 1 Aug 96 22:08:27 -0700 Received: from localhost by vigrid.cfar.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA12320; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 01:08:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 01:08:17 -0400 (EDT) From: ADAM Sulmicki To: Evelyn Albrecht Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: goto a line number in pico In-Reply-To: <4tqt7o$d6a@henson.cc.wwu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ->mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) writes: -> ->>Thanks for the info. I had tried the +n command line option and it did work, ->>but I have users that know only pico as a Unix editor and need to be able to ->>move around in source files and make modifications (perhaps fixing errors ->>while trying to get something to compile). If there are 10 errors on ->>various lines in a large file, it's a PITA to have to make a change, save ->>your change, quit pico, and then resart with some new +N linenumber to go ->>to the next error. A number of users had asked if there was a better way. ->>Now I can tell them definitively, "Not with pico." -> -> But the search command (^W), can be used in many cases, particularly when -> you're correcting typos, which tend to be unique. yes, but not when compiler flames at you that there is err in your source code at line 243.. yeah u can get to desired line using ^V ^C but go to nevertheess would be better. -Adam From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Aug 1996 22:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01785; Thu, 1 Aug 96 22:26:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26340; Thu, 1 Aug 96 21:33:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26334; Thu, 1 Aug 96 21:33:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umBph-00038BC; Thu, 1 Aug 96 21:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bill Jenuwine Subject: Re: Local spelling file for pine 3.91? Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 13:35:18 -0400 Message-Id: References: <31FFA194.3CB5@tigger.jvnc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <31FFA194.3CB5@tigger.jvnc.net> On Wed, 31 Jul 1996, Michael Marmor wrote: > Hi, > I am using pine 3.91 and would like to specify a local spelling file. [snip] > Is there a way to tell pine to check a local spell file? > While I don't remember why, I got it to work by setting the environment variable SPELL='spell +mywords', where mywords is a file with my own special words. I have the alternate speller field in pine config unset. I am using pine 3.94. =========================+============================ Bill Jenuwine | Internet: wjenuwin@ford.com Ford Motor Company | =========================+============================ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 01:31:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01593; Fri, 2 Aug 96 01:31:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15990; Fri, 2 Aug 96 01:04:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15984; Fri, 2 Aug 96 01:04:18 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:01:59 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA04243; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:03:56 +0100 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:03:56 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Evelyn Albrecht Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: goto a line number in pico In-Reply-To: <4tqt7o$d6a@henson.cc.wwu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII But not if you are using Pico to edit your C program, which the C compiler has just spat back at you saying there was a syntax error on line 306. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 1 Aug 1996, Evelyn Albrecht wrote: > mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) writes: > > >Thanks for the info. I had tried the +n command line option and it did work, > >but I have users that know only pico as a Unix editor and need to be able to > >move around in source files and make modifications (perhaps fixing errors > >while trying to get something to compile). If there are 10 errors on > >various lines in a large file, it's a PITA to have to make a change, save > >your change, quit pico, and then resart with some new +N linenumber to go > >to the next error. A number of users had asked if there was a better way. > >Now I can tell them definitively, "Not with pico." > > But the search command (^W), can be used in many cases, particularly when > you're correcting typos, which tend to be unique. > > > Evelyn > -- > |Evelyn Albrecht Ph: (360) 650-3239 | > |Academic Computing Services Internet: evelyn@henson.cc.wwu.edu | > |Western Washington Univ. | > |Bellingham, WA 98225-9094 | > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 01:31:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01599; Fri, 2 Aug 96 01:31:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16241; Fri, 2 Aug 96 01:24:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16235; Fri, 2 Aug 96 01:24:17 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:21:44 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA06707; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:23:20 +0100 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:23:20 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Adam Vardy , "Mark M." Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: What is Bounce? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There is are some more important distinctions between Forward and Bounce... 1. Alf sends a message to Bert. Bert thinks "I can't answer this, but Charles can". Bert bounces the message to Charles. Charles receives the messsage, which is marked as being from Alf (although the additional "Resent-From:" header lets him know that it cam by way of Bert). Charles hits "R" to reply, and the reply is directed straight back to Alf. If Bert had used Forward instead of Bounce then Charles' reply would have been directed to Bert instead of Alf. Bounce is useful for "passing the buck"-type messages (where you are relaying the received message on to someone else to deal with and respond direct to the original enquirer). For example, staff on a Help Desk can find this useful when redirecting received queries on to the people destined to answer the problem. Forward is useful when you want to pass a message on "for information" or prefaced with your own comments. 2. Bounce sends the message on "as is": no ">" quote characters are introduced, and you are not given a chance to modify the text. Forward quotes the included text and also lets you your own comments. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 1 Aug 1996, Mark M. wrote: > In article <4to90t$l8@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> abe0084@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (Adam Vardy) writes: > > > Can anyone tell me what on earth Bounce does? > > Bounce redirects a message to a specified address. All the headers are kept, > and "Resent-From:" and "Resent-Date:" are added. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 01:31:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01605; Fri, 2 Aug 96 01:31:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16131; Fri, 2 Aug 96 01:14:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16125; Fri, 2 Aug 96 01:14:54 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:09:08 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA05244; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:11:02 +0100 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:11:01 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: chetanvr@msuvx2.memphis.edu, Jie Yuan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC-Pine for MAC In-Reply-To: <4tq853$ikd@babbage.ece.uc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII [I admit I haven't looked at these programs recently and this response is from memory of (possibly now obsolete) versions, but...] Eudora and Eudora Lite are indeed very well spoken of. However they use the POP protocol and, certainly when I last looked at Eudora, not the IMAP protocol. I seem to recall Steve Dorner once being quoted as saying that it never would. This is fine if you have access to a POP server as well as an IMAP server, but not all sites offer both. POPmail III, when I looked at it a year or so back, supported POP2, POP3 and IMAP. However it used IMAP in what I tend to call "the brain-damaged way", using it to _trasnfer_ your messages off the IMAP server and down to your local hard disk. This then can make life difficult if the machine is shared. Also if you are away from your machine and want to refer back to a message now no longer on the mail server. Your best bet is to look for an IMAP client that manipulates the mail in-place on the mail server (using IMAP as it was designed for) like Pine and PC-Pine do. Both of my suggestions (Mail Drop and Mulberry) do this. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 1 Aug 1996, Jie Yuan wrote: > In article <1996Jul31.150454@msuvx1.memphis.edu>, > chetanvr@cc.memphis.edu writes: > > > >is there a PC-Pine program for Macintosh operating system? > > > >is there a similar mail program for Macintosh operating system? > > > >please let me know of the ftp site where the program is available. > > Although there is no Mac-Pine, there are some freeware POP3/IMAP > clients on the Internet. Eudora-Lite is very popular. POPMail > from U. of MN is also very good (my favorite). You can find them > in the info-mac archive, or the U. MI archive. > > Cheers! > > Jie From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 01:31:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01611; Fri, 2 Aug 96 01:31:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29183; Fri, 2 Aug 96 01:21:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hermes.cti.gr by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29177; Fri, 2 Aug 96 01:21:00 -0700 From: Pan.Dimakopoulos@cti.gr Received: (from dimakop@localhost) by hermes.cti.gr (8.7.4/8.7.3) id LAA25521; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 11:02:06 +0300 (EET DST) Organization: Computer Technology Institute - (CTI) Kolokotroni 3, 262 21 Patras, P.O.Box 1122, 261 10 Patras, Greece Tel: +30(61)992061, 994317-18 Fax: +30(61)993973, 222086 TELEX: 312515 CTI GR Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 11:02:05 +0300 (EET DST) To: "Mark M." Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: What is Bounce? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 1 Aug 1996, Mark M. wrote: > In article <4to90t$l8@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> abe0084@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (Adam Vardy) writes: > > > Can anyone tell me what on earth Bounce does? > > Bounce redirects a message to a specified address. All the headers are kept, > and "Resent-From:" and "Resent-Date:" are added. > And what is the difference from forward? The Resent-From and Resent-Date do not exist in a forwarded message? Thank you, ------------------------------------------------------ | Panos Dimakopoulos dimakop@cti.gr | | COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY INSTITUTE | | P.O. Box 1122 | | 261 10 Patras, Greece | | Tel (+30) 61 994317 Fax (+30) 61 993973 | ------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 03:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02406; Fri, 2 Aug 96 03:53:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17641; Fri, 2 Aug 96 03:35:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from risc01.bim.ktu.edu.tr by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17635; Fri, 2 Aug 96 03:35:08 -0700 Received: by risc01.bim.ktu.edu.tr (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA21969; Fri, 2 Aug 96 13:28:12 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 96 13:28:12 -0400 From: cavsak@risc01.bim.ktu.edu.tr (Hasan Cavsak) Message-Id: <9608021728.AA21969@risc01.bim.ktu.edu.tr> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Hallo liebe Freunde. Gibt es bei Euch die Freunde, die deutsch koennen ? Koennt Ihr Euch bitte mit mir in Verbindung setzen ? Ich danke Euch alle und herzliche Gruesse aus der Turkei. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 04:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02774; Fri, 2 Aug 96 04:57:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01772; Fri, 2 Aug 96 04:53:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01766; Fri, 2 Aug 96 04:53:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umIie-00038BC; Fri, 2 Aug 96 04:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk (Super-User) Subject: cmsg cancel <4tsj7e$40i@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Control: cancel <4tsj7e$40i@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Date: 2 Aug 1996 10:49:53 GMT Message-Id: <4tsmgh$790@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> <4tsj7e$40i@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> was cancelled from within trn. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 07:39:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04061; Fri, 2 Aug 96 07:39:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03825; Fri, 2 Aug 96 07:33:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kodakr.kodak.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03819; Fri, 2 Aug 96 07:33:46 -0700 Received: from felix.kodak.com by kodakr.kodak.com with SMTP id AA23838 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 2 Aug 1996 10:31:11 -0400 Received: from turring.pdkiews by felix.Kodak.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29939; Fri, 2 Aug 96 10:32:45 EDT Date: Fri, 2 Aug 96 10:32:45 EDT From: lana@kodak.com (Austin Lan 497361 x35223) Message-Id: <9608021432.AA29939@felix.Kodak.COM> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine difficulties How does one set up the environment variables (TERM, TERMCAP) for running Pine? I can view the demo that you have set up for test driving Pine, but when I try to view use my local version, I cannot see the menu at the bottom, page scrolling does not work, etc. I have the same problem with using Pico. My system is a SPARC running Sun4 (need Solaris support too). I telnet into the system and view mail from a Macintosh sometimes. Thanks! Austin (lana@kodak.com, or lana@taipei.ee.washington.edu) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05956; Fri, 2 Aug 96 09:08:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05670; Fri, 2 Aug 96 09:01:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.voicenet.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05664; Fri, 2 Aug 96 09:01:23 -0700 Received: from gak (cherryhill102.voicenet.com [207.103.11.181]) by mail.voicenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA24652 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 12:01:53 -0400 Received: (from markm@localhost) by gak (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA00193; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 11:59:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 11:59:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mark M." To: Pan.Dimakopoulos@cti.gr Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: What is Bounce? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 2 Aug 1996 Pan.Dimakopoulos@cti.gr wrote: > And what is the difference from forward? > The Resent-From and Resent-Date do not exist in a forwarded message? Correct. None of the original message headers are used in the forwarded message. - -- Mark PGP encrypted mail prefered Key fingerprint = d61734f2800486ae6f79bfeb70f95348 http://www.voicenet.com/~markm/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBMgIl97Zc+sv5siulAQG8+QP+Jiohff+oLExEMRDHPktXPP9ejkb2z535 IsY/JPGWsryAO54hK3Nwz0IFXpZRMY2F5oBJBhxeFcUzFDJA8bKFwgdYZEPpAAm1 YoKvRkyuyYameeTKik1wQvzrspx1+b6gkHGsGuwl/YmqTO3JdZNLQKRJdTD2HDrj 1aFotHZUYmY= =Rkg1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06132; Fri, 2 Aug 96 09:16:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05853; Fri, 2 Aug 96 09:04:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.NL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05834; Fri, 2 Aug 96 09:04:41 -0700 Received: from ciint by ns.NL.net via EUnet id AA00807 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Fri, 2 Aug 1996 17:40:55 +0200 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa18245; 2 Aug 96 17:36 WET Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 16:37:16 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering Reply-To: Richard Gering To: "Hiram Lester Jr." Cc: Pine Info , Tim Mooney , pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: goto a line number in pico In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-23010-838998673=:5305" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-23010-838998673=:5305 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Hiram Lester Jr. wrote: > On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Barry Landy wrote: > > > Surely the control-W command to scan for text gives them what they want? > > Provided you know what you are looking for. An extra option on the > Control-W command to enter a line number would be a nice addition though. Yes, this would be a nice addition indeed. The great thing about Pine is that it comes with the sources, so I've tried to implement the "goto line" feature as an option to the search command. This is how it turned out: Once you have pressed Ctrl-W, you can enter the number of the line you want to go to at the "Search:" prompt. Then, instead of pressing Return you can press Ctrl-N (as in Number) and Pico will use the text at the prompt as the number of the line to go to. When text or a line number smaller than 1 is entered, the goto action will be (silently) canceled. The interface might be a little funny, but it kept the amount of code changes to a minimum and it saved the user from having to press an extra key. I've found that you can quickly get used to it. The number entered does not affect the text used in a previous search action. This text continues to be stored for future searches. The result is attached to this message for you to take a look at. Both a patch file and the entire changed pico/search.c (Unix compressed) were included to make it easy (it was small enough). Two final notes: - Please be aware that the source files are from Pico 2.9 (the one that is also shipped with Pine 3.95). - This patch only affects Pico and the composer part of Pine. It has NO effect on the search facilities in the mail viewer or in the on-line help (other code, but could be changed as well :-) ) I hope that you find this addition useful. Feedback is welcomed. Kind regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | Let me make one thing perfectly clear: | | CI International B.V. Netherlands | I never explain anything! 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Date: 1 Aug 1996 12:39:56 -0400 Message-Id: <4tqmks$f97@apache.dtcc.edu> References: <31FD41CE.4B92@bbs.voy-ager.com> pine3.95 gets a wee bit closer to being compilable out-of-the-box on DG/UX systems, at least on dg/ux m88k running 4.11. The last patches appeared in the c-client distribution, but they added a comment which blocked out the utime.h include! To apply this patch, unzip and untar the pine distribution from ftp.cac.washington.edu, then cd into pine3.95, and finally pipe this file into patch (make sure to use the -p option.) For example: zcat pine3.95.tar.gz | tar xvof - cd pine3.95 cat thispatchfile | patch -p ./build d-g *OR* if you lack the patch program, you can grab the edited files and park them manually in place from ftp://hopi.dtcc.edu/pub/dgux/pine/ and place them in imap/ANSI/c-client/os_d-g.c pine/makefile.d-g pine/osdep/os-sv4.h *OR* you can grab a compiled (for m88k) version of patch from ftp://hopi.dtcc.edu/pub/dgux/pine/patch and apply the patches below if you lack patch When you are all done, simply "./build d-g" to hopefully get a successful pine compile. Note that this is tested with DG/UX 4.11 under 88k platform. The utime() controversy still exists "unconditionally" for 88k boxes and can be set to work the same weird way with intel boxes iff you #define _USEC_UTIME_FLAVOR, which I did in this patch. The symptom of this not working right will be weird messages when quitting pine that the folder time was changed but no changes were found (paraphrased greatly) and folder times of Dec 31, 1969 *** pine/makefile.d-g.orig Fri Mar 15 02:14:55 1996 --- pine/makefile.d-g Tue Jul 23 07:58:09 1996 *************** *** 59,63 **** LIBES= $(EXTRALIBES) $(LOCLIBES) $(STDLIBES) ! STDCFLAGS= -Dconst= -DSV4 -DSYSTYPE=\"D-G\" -DMOUSE CFLAGS= $(OPTIMIZE) $(PROFILE) $(DEBUG) $(EXTRACFLAGS) $(STDCFLAGS) --- 59,63 ---- LIBES= $(EXTRALIBES) $(LOCLIBES) $(STDLIBES) ! STDCFLAGS= -DSV4 -DSYSTYPE=\"D-G\" -DMOUSE CFLAGS= $(OPTIMIZE) $(PROFILE) $(DEBUG) $(EXTRACFLAGS) $(STDCFLAGS) *** imap/ANSI/c-client/os_d-g.c.dist Mon Jul 22 12:10:38 1996 --- imap/ANSI/c-client/os_d-g.c Mon Jul 22 12:38:04 1996 *************** *** 36,41 **** #include "tcp_unix.h" /* must be before osdep includes tcp.h */ #include "mail.h" ! #define _USEC_UTIME_FLAVOR /* break it for compatibility with ! #include the incompatible past */ #include "osdep.h" #include --- 36,41 ---- #include "tcp_unix.h" /* must be before osdep includes tcp.h */ #include "mail.h" ! #define _USEC_UTIME_FLAVOR /* break it for compatibility with */ ! #include /* the incompatible past */ #include "osdep.h" #include *** pine/osdep/os-sv4.h.orig Tue Jul 23 07:37:44 1996 --- pine/osdep/os-sv4.h Tue Jul 23 07:40:32 1996 *************** *** 232,236 **** --- 232,241 ---- + /*-------- For DG/UX systems, define setpgrp to be setpgrp2 -------------*/ + #ifdef DGUX + #define setpgrp setpgrp2 + #endif + /*----------------- locale.h -------------------------------------------*/ /* #include /* To make matching and sorting work right */ -- Ken Weaverling, Delaware Tech (WHOIS: KJW) * weave@hopi.dtcc.edu finger weave@dtcc.edu@publickey.com for PGP key. * http://www.dtcc.edu/~weave/ ****************************************************************************** Visit Delaware on the web - beats in person! http://www.dtcc.edu/delaware/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 12:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10090; Fri, 2 Aug 96 12:44:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28115; Fri, 2 Aug 96 12:41:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28109; Fri, 2 Aug 96 12:41:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umQ3E-00038BC; Fri, 2 Aug 96 12:38 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Shawn McMahon Subject: Re: What is Bounce? Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 08:47:43 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4to90t$l8@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4to90t$l8@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> On 31 Jul 1996, Adam Vardy wrote: > Can anyone tell me what on earth Bounce does? Yes; Pine can. Hit B to start the bounce process, then hit ^G to Get Help. Shawn McMahon | Smokesignals Computer Company Senior System Operator | Southern Oklahoma's Internet Service Provider Chickasaw Nation Net | 405 332-0033 http://www.chickasaw.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 12:51:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10244; Fri, 2 Aug 96 12:51:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28282; Fri, 2 Aug 96 12:48:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Tut.MsState.Edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28276; Fri, 2 Aug 96 12:48:28 -0700 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (ckw1@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]); by Tut.MsState.Edu using SMTP (8.6.12/6.5m-FWP); id OAA03143; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 14:48:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (ckw1@localhost); by Ra.MsState.Edu using SMTP (8.6.12/6.0c-FWP); id OAA22740; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 14:48:07 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 14:48:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Winns To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Mailcap Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Can you please let me know how to configure my mailcap files if I have one and how to access mime-type files? And how to change my name for the local sys without sending a mail to the local sys. admin to change my name? My name can't be changed even though I've changed the config setup. Thanks. ___ / \ | | | | \\_// S M I L E ! ____ ________________________________________ \ \ __ / ___________________________________/ \ \ / \/ / __ ____ ____ ___ \ / | | | \ | \ / _| \ __ / | | | | | | _\ \ \__/ \__/ |__| |__|\ _| |__|\ _| |___/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 13:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10475; Fri, 2 Aug 96 13:08:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12301; Fri, 2 Aug 96 13:06:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12294; Fri, 2 Aug 96 13:06:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umQQ8-00038BC; Fri, 2 Aug 96 13:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Help required in imapd+Solaris 2.4x86 Date: 29 Jul 96 13:44:43 GMT Message-Id: References: <4tg4dm$25o@clarknet.clark.net> bent@clark.net (Ben Taylor) writes: >Harish Srinivasan (harish@gpnet.gpbkk.th.org) wrote: >: >: Our system environment is >: Solaris 2.4 ( x86 ) >: >: We were using Pine on Unix. I have downloaded PC-PINE 3.95 and with a >: older version of IMAPD, the foll is the prob: >: The remote folder by name "SENT" is seen as "NT" clipping out first 2 >: letters. Saw the same problem mentioned in Pine-Info forum but could not >: know the exact solution. >Get /usr/ucb out of your path. You may have to hack the makefiles, >but the basic thing is that the libraries in /usr/ucblib are broken. >If you're linking against them, you're going to have his trouble. >Recompile when you have this corrected. It may not just be an issue of having /usr/ucb in the path. LD_LIBRARY_PATH may also be set to include /usr/ucblib early in the link. Ideally a Solaris 2.x machine ought to be able to run all of its programs without having this environment variable set at all. >: Downloaded the Pine3.95 source and tried to compile it . >: When I use gcc compiler, I get errors like "undefined symbol" errors . >: Symbols mentioned are flock, random , Strtr etc etc . Did you read the docs? >: >: Pls suggest what OSTYPE to be used for this system. >: Have tried gsol, gsun etc >gso for gcc, or sol if you have the SparcWorks tools >: Regds >: Harish >Ben -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 13:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10974; Fri, 2 Aug 96 13:41:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29549; Fri, 2 Aug 96 13:36:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29543; Fri, 2 Aug 96 13:36:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umQta-00038BC; Fri, 2 Aug 96 13:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: How do I get a small list of newsgroups Date: 29 Jul 96 13:53:23 GMT Message-Id: References: Paul O Bartlett writes: >On Sat, 27 Jul 1996, Clint Danbury wrote: >> How do I get the "folders" screen to show me just a few newsgroups ? At >> present my option(s) is(are) to place the cursor on some message which >> says "press here to see the list" or something similar; which I do, and >> gen appears a list of 845,917 usenet newsgroups. [...] > You did not say what system -- Un*x, DOS, Windoozy, whatever -- you >are using Pine under, so I will use the example of Un*x. Pine uses >your .newsrc file. Mine is quite small -- it has only the newsgroups >to which I am subscribed. You might try this. First, change to your >home directory. THEN, MAKE A BACKUP COPY OF YOUR .NEWSRC FILE IN CASE >SOMETHING GOES WRONG. Next, with a good text editor, simply delete the >entries for all the newsgroups (i.e., nearly all of them) that you >don't want. > You could search for the names of all the groups that you do want >and move them all to the top of the file and delete everything else >below them. Be sure to move the entire line in which the name occurs. >Be aware that Pine will display the newsgroups in the folder collection >in the order in which they appear in the .newsrc file. After you edit >out the zillion groups you don't want, Pine should show you only the >few groups you do want. > Editing the .newsrc file by hand should be done with very great >care. That's why you should make a backup copy first so you can back >out if things get messed up. Many text editors have limits to the number of bytes, lines, or the length of lines they will handle. If you load a very large newsrc file into one of these, you will lose entries. Pico is one such editor, as is true for MicroEMACS, jove, vi. Editors that I know that have extremely large limits are GNU Emacs and joe. >Paul >---------------------------------------------------------- >Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA >Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key >Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 14:39:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12067; Fri, 2 Aug 96 14:39:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14441; Fri, 2 Aug 96 14:36:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14435; Fri, 2 Aug 96 14:36:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umRrD-00038BC; Fri, 2 Aug 96 14:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: damianm@eram.esi.com.au (Damian McGuckin) Subject: Conversion of Content during an Attachment Save Date: 29 Jul 1996 23:10:18 +1000 Message-Id: <4tid7q$bt5@eram.esi.com.au> How do you get PINE to decode attachments on the fly while it is saving them with some appropriate filter depending on the Content-Type? Specifically I am interested in UUENCODE'd or BinHex attachments. I am not interested in the actual display - just the act of saving to disk, be it a Save or Export. Thanks - Damian. -- Damian McGuckin Pacific Engineering Systems International damianm@esi.com.au Ph:+61-2-99063377 ... Fx:+61-2-99063468 #include From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 14:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12310; Fri, 2 Aug 96 14:59:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01832; Fri, 2 Aug 96 14:56:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01825; Fri, 2 Aug 96 14:56:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umS9v-00038BC; Fri, 2 Aug 96 14:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: Re: can you see me and more. Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 09:24:06 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 26 Jul 1996, Randell Pelak wrote: |First of all can anyone see this. If yes please somebody let me know. | |Randell Allen Pelak All I can say is that I see this. Sorry though I don't have an answer to your other question. Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 16:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13857; Fri, 2 Aug 96 16:18:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17194; Fri, 2 Aug 96 16:16:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17184; Fri, 2 Aug 96 16:16:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umTQR-00038BC; Fri, 2 Aug 96 16:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccrjh@cse.bris.ac.uk (RJ. Hopkins) Subject: Re: Help required in imapd+Solaris 2.4x86 Message-Id: References: <4tg4dm$25o@clarknet.clark.net> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 14:23:36 GMT Ben Taylor (bent@clark.net) wrote: : Harish Srinivasan (harish@gpnet.gpbkk.th.org) wrote: : : : : Our system environment is : : Solaris 2.4 ( x86 ) : : : : We were using Pine on Unix. I have downloaded PC-PINE 3.95 and with a : : older version of IMAPD, the foll is the prob: : : The remote folder by name "SENT" is seen as "NT" clipping out first 2 : : letters. Saw the same problem mentioned in Pine-Info forum but could not : : know the exact solution. : : Get /usr/ucb out of your path. You may have to hack the makefiles, : but the basic thing is that the libraries in /usr/ucblib are broken. : If you're linking against them, you're going to have his trouble. : Recompile when you have this corrected. : : : Downloaded the Pine3.95 source and tried to compile it . : : When I use gcc compiler, I get errors like "undefined symbol" errors . : : Symbols mentioned are flock, random , Strtr etc etc . : : : : Pls suggest what OSTYPE to be used for this system. : : Have tried gsol, gsun etc : : gso for gcc, or sol if you have the SparcWorks tools : : : Regds : : Harish : : Ben I came across the same problem with some versions of Solaris. The fix which worked for me was to upgrade to version 3.6 of the (Washington) IMAP-2bis server. -- Richard Hopkins, Computing Service, University of Bristol, Bristol, BS8 1UD, UK Tel +44 117 928 7859, Fax +44 117 929 1576 RFC-822: Richard.Hopkins@bristol.ac.uk X.400: G=Richard;S=Hopkins;O=Bristol;P=UK.AC;C=GB From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 16:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14326; Fri, 2 Aug 96 16:48:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04758; Fri, 2 Aug 96 16:46:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04752; Fri, 2 Aug 96 16:46:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umTtj-00038BC; Fri, 2 Aug 96 16:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu (Ashok Aiyar) Subject: Re: POP3 access? Date: 2 Aug 1996 23:36:14 GMT Message-Id: References: <31FE8EE0.7C0A@pacifier.com> On Tue, 30 Jul 1996 15:38:24 -0700, Doug Piercy wrote: >Is there a version of Pine available (or forthcoming) that supports the >widely-used POP3 protocol for retrieving remote mail instead of the >apparently rarely-unused IMAP2 protocol? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ rarely-unused would make it widely-used :-) Anyhow, Pine 3.9x does support pop3. Simply use the following syntax for your mail-folder on the pop3 server. incoming-folders= POP3 Mail {pop3host.domain/pop3} later, Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. Department of Oncology email: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu University of Wisconsin-Madison tel: (608) 262-6697 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 17:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14619; Fri, 2 Aug 96 17:13:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18481; Fri, 2 Aug 96 17:11:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18475; Fri, 2 Aug 96 17:11:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umUH5-00038BC; Fri, 2 Aug 96 17:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: Re: How do I get a small list of newsgroups Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 09:46:05 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 27 Jul 1996, Clint Danbury wrote: | |How do I get the "folders" screen to show me just a few newsgroups ? At |danbury@ssnShirt.com Clint Danbury - Have you tried using the unsubscribe command with in pine for the groups that you don't want? Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 18:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15411; Fri, 2 Aug 96 18:43:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06525; Fri, 2 Aug 96 18:41:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06519; Fri, 2 Aug 96 18:41:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umVfC-00038bC; Fri, 2 Aug 96 18:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: Re: FAQ? Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 10:18:21 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4skf63$jfc@dewey.csun.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4skf63$jfc@dewey.csun.edu> On 18 Jul 1996, George Mansoor wrote: |Can someone please point me to the FAQ for this group. I have pine 3.93 |installed on a Solaris 2.4 box. When i start pine, I get an error message |saying that I have incomplete domain information. Anyone know what that is? | |George Pine FAQ's are found at: http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/faq/ The error message that you are getting could be because you do not have a domain name set. I use Unix and am not familiar with Solaris but I will try to help.. At my main screen I type S(setup), C(config) then it is about the second selection from the top (user-domain). Select user-domain type A (add) and then type in the domain part (right-hand side) of your return address on outgoing email. Hope this helps! Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 18:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15523; Fri, 2 Aug 96 18:59:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19983; Fri, 2 Aug 96 18:57:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19970; Fri, 2 Aug 96 18:56:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umVw5-00038bC; Fri, 2 Aug 96 18:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: import Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 18:27:03 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4tq31n$3l6@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4tq31n$3l6@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> On 1 Aug 1996, Steve Baetzner wrote: > I have two questions: one, how does one delete extra folders in the folder > directory? When in the folder lister, type D > Two: how does one import text into PINE e-mail message so > that it is viewable by recipient? Thanks. From within the default composer, type Ctrl-R. -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 23:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17697; Fri, 2 Aug 96 23:14:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09744; Fri, 2 Aug 96 23:13:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09738; Fri, 2 Aug 96 23:13:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umZsu-00038BC; Fri, 2 Aug 96 23:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: goto a line number in pico Date: 3 Aug 1996 00:08:04 -0500 Message-Id: <4tumrk$6l2@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: <4tosnv$1bu@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> <4tqt7o$d6a@henson.cc.wwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <4tqt7o$d6a@henson.cc.wwu.edu>, Evelyn Albrecht wrote: > mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) writes: > > >If there are 10 errors on > >various lines in a large file, it's a PITA to have to make a change, save > >your change, quit pico, and then resart with some new +N linenumber to go > >to the next error. A number of users had asked if there was a better way. > >Now I can tell them definitively, "Not with pico." > > But the search command (^W), can be used in many cases, particularly when > you're correcting typos, which tend to be unique. As a couple of people have pointed out, not every compiler gives a good indication of the text surrounding the line(s) in error, so searching for the text may be impossible since it's not indicated. FORTRAN compilers appear to be particularly bad about not saying on which line an error occurs, based on the questions I've fielded from users. There is yet another reason for wanting the `goto line' feature, though, and that's pure simplicity. Pico is, after all, designed to be simple to use. Though many users could use the Control-W and search for text pointed out by the compiler (if it does that kind of thing with errors), I suspect many would find that method to be needlessly difficult. Given enough time, I could probably come up with quite a few examples where even given the text of the error message it takes several repititions of a text search to find the desired instance of that text in the file (though your argument that typos tend to be unique is a good one, it certainly isn't always the case). If you know the line number, it's just *much* simpler to be able to go directly to that line. Again, I don't even use pico; the initial question I asked was on behalf of the large number of pico-users that I support. I was just hoping that my inability to find the magic key sequence in pico to `goto-line' was just ignorance of pico's capabilities on my part. We've already seen one patch posted to this thread that implements the desired feature. If it rains here this weekend I may come up with my own patch to add the same feature, but with `Goto-line = ^N' listed as one of the options right in the ^W menu, so it's no secret to the neophyte users. Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Aug 1996 23:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17870; Fri, 2 Aug 96 23:44:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23329; Fri, 2 Aug 96 23:43:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23317; Fri, 2 Aug 96 23:43:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umaPU-00038BC; Fri, 2 Aug 96 23:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu (Annelise Anderson) Subject: How to Export Text? Date: 3 Aug 1996 05:45:18 GMT Message-Id: <4tup1e$5s6@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I'd like to be able to export selected text from a message instead of an entire message--and also append text to a file in a later export. Is this possible....or just too much for little pine? Annelise From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 00:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18150; Sat, 3 Aug 96 00:32:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10529; Sat, 3 Aug 96 00:28:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10523; Sat, 3 Aug 96 00:28:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umb81-00038BC; Sat, 3 Aug 96 00:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: svante@deep-purple.com (Svante Pettersson) Subject: Re: What is Bounce? Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 23:38:16 GMT Message-Id: <4treai$2o9@spider.hik.se> References: <4to90t$l8@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> abe0084@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (Adam Vardy) wrote: >Can anyone tell me what on earth Bounce does? Say you get a mail from user@foo.com that was intended for me. If you forward it to me I'll get the mail as "From: abe0084@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca". If you OTOH 'Bounce' that mail to me, i will get it as "From: user@foo.com" and if I look into the headers I'll see "By way of abe004@Info...". Could be handy if I filter my mail based on the "From:" field . ------------------------------------------ Svante Pettersson, svante@deep-purple.com Content editor, http://www.deep-purple.com/ ------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 11:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21393; Sat, 3 Aug 96 11:46:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01132; Sat, 3 Aug 96 11:44:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01126; Sat, 3 Aug 96 11:44:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umlcc-00038BC; Sat, 3 Aug 96 11:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mark W. Oosterveld" Subject: Re: Filters in PCPine Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 10:21:47 -0400 Message-Id: <31FCC8FB.5EBD@netron.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ari Spanos wrote: > > I've just finished configuring PGP to work with Pine verson 3.93 for UNIX, > using the "display-filters" and "sending-filters" options in the Setup. > It works very well. > > I thought I might do the same in for a different account where I use > PCPine 32 bit Version 3.95. Using the same principles, I should be able to > write a batch file to do the job of the shell script in UNIX. It does not > seem to work - not because the batch file doesn't work - but because Pine > does not ask if I want to apply a filter when I'm ready to send. > Essentially it ignores the filter configuration completely. I did the same thing. First, know that PCPine, or at least the 32 bit version, does not support pipes. So, you need to make sure the filter rule includes _TMPFILE_. Second, make sure you specify the explicit path to the program, including extension. (ie: d:\win\pine\pgpfilt.bat). And last, you will need to make a small change to the source. In the file os.c (which is created, I believe from os_wnt.c), search for PIPE_RESET. (I am working from memory here. I don't have the source in front of me...) There is an if statement, something like: if (mode && (PIPE_RESET | PIPE_READ | PIPE_WRITE)) Take the PIPE_RESET out of that line. And recompile. I mailed this fix to the development team. If they like it, 3.96 should work better. > Ari Spanos Mark Oosterveld From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 13:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22920; Sat, 3 Aug 96 13:30:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18799; Sat, 3 Aug 96 13:29:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18793; Sat, 3 Aug 96 13:29:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umnIk-00038BC; Sat, 3 Aug 96 13:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scrappy@ki.net (Marc G. Fournier) Subject: Sudden problem with locking... Date: 3 Aug 1996 16:12:28 -0400 Message-Id: <4u0brc$akt@quagmire.ki.net> Hi... All of a sudden, using pine, I'm receiving an error of: [{mail.ki.net}inbox : Error creating /var/mail/scrappy.lock.839102584.7566.quag] Nothing has changed that I can tell, it just started happening... I've checked permissions on directories...it let's me into my mail properly, or so it seems, and can delete messages, but the error message is disconcerting to myself, and to my users, to say the least... Anybody have any ideas on what might have changed that I'm not thinking of, that would cause this? -- Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, Administrator | | Information and scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 13:56:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23081; Sat, 3 Aug 96 13:56:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02559; Sat, 3 Aug 96 13:54:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02553; Sat, 3 Aug 96 13:54:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umng7-00038BC; Sat, 3 Aug 96 13:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: Re: routers, gateway Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 14:56:57 -0500 Message-Id: References: <31FD07E8.CD4@opal.tufts.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <31FD07E8.CD4@opal.tufts.edu> On Mon, 29 Jul 1996, Imran Mohiuddin wrote: |Is there anyway that I can trace a mail message using pine? In other |words I want to see what routers and gateways it has come throught to get |to me? If so, How do I do it? In pine 3.91 (and +) there is a feature in the configuration screen called enable-full-header-cmd. This allows you to type and H while in a message and it will display the full route of the message along with other things. Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 14:56:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23451; Sat, 3 Aug 96 14:56:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19643; Sat, 3 Aug 96 14:55:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19637; Sat, 3 Aug 96 14:55:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umocG-00038BC; Sat, 3 Aug 96 14:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 11:56:30 -0400 Message-Id: References: <31FE9719.2809@pacifier.com> <31FFB9BB.18DB@supaero.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 31 Jul 1996, Mark Crispin wrote (excerpt): > That's why MIME was created. MIME provides a framework for identifying > all of the world's languages; and it also provides a framework for passing > 8bit data on a 7bit network. This is true, as far as it goes, but many people still do not have MIME-complaint mailers, so they couldn't use MIME if it bit them on the nose. However, in some circumstances they *can* use straight 8-bit transmission within a limited sphere, so that's what they use. I participate in a mailing list on languages whose server is in Europe. I have never had any problems sending or receiving 8-bit characters (one I set my display hardware for ISO-8859-1). Although the listowner once made some noises about a MIME-compliant upgrade on the server, it is still an 8-bit list for those who can handle 8-bit and who are on 8-bit paths. MIME may be a standard, and Pine handles MIME, but a lot of the world is still non-MIME, and we have to live with that. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 14:58:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23462; Sat, 3 Aug 96 14:58:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19666; Sat, 3 Aug 96 14:56:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hubcap.clemson.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19660; Sat, 3 Aug 96 14:56:48 -0700 Received: from cs.clemson.edu (citron.cs.clemson.edu [130.127.44.18]) by hubcap.clemson.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id RAA17173 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 17:56:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bart.cs.clemson.edu by cs.clemson.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11927; Sat, 3 Aug 96 17:57:49 EDT Received: from localhost by bart.cs.clemson.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA06986; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 17:57:48 -0400 Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 17:57:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Jyandung Tony Young To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: please help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear helper, I am a Unix's pine user. Could someone solve the problem below for me? Your help is appreciated. Each time I invoke pine, I got a warning message: The domain name is incomplete... The returned address in your outgoing mails may be incorrect... The return path in each of my outgoing mails is always yjd@machine where yjd is my userd id and machine is the name of the workstation where I am working. Therefore, if my addressee replys me an email, he/she will fail. If you can help me, please don't reply this mail (because the returned path is wrong) but send your mail to yjd@cs.clemson.edu. Thanks. Tony From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 15:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23525; Sat, 3 Aug 96 15:12:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03310; Sat, 3 Aug 96 15:09:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03304; Sat, 3 Aug 96 15:09:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umope-00038BC; Sat, 3 Aug 96 15:06 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andreas@klemm.gtn.com (Andreas Klemm) Subject: Re: Hallo liebe Freunde. Date: 2 Aug 1996 16:20:15 GMT Message-Id: <4tt9rv$44s@klemm.gtn.com> References: <9608021728.AA21969@risc01.bim.ktu.edu.tr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <9608021728.AA21969@risc01.bim.ktu.edu.tr>, cavsak@risc01.bim.ktu.edu.tr (Hasan Cavsak) writes: > Gibt es bei Euch die Freunde, die deutsch koennen ? > Koennt Ihr Euch bitte mit mir in Verbindung setzen ? > Ich danke Euch alle und herzliche Gruesse aus der Turkei. Hasan, die Newsgroup, in die Du gepostet hast, ist rein Englisch-sprachig. Ausserdem geht es hier um die Printer Sprache "Postscript". Du solltest Dir passendere Newsgroups aussuchen, um Dir Freunde zu suchen. Leute in den Newsgroups reagieren oft veraergert, wenn man darin Themen anspricht, die mit der Newsgroups nichts zu tun haben. Und Du solltest Dir eine Newsgroup erstmal gruendlich anschauen, um ein Gefuehl dafuer zu bekommen, was darin gerne gesehen wird und was nicht. Andreas /// -- andreas@klemm.gtn.com /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ Support Unix -- andreas.klemm@wup.de pgp p-key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html >>> powered by <<< ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz >>> FreeBSD <<< From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 16:06:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23832; Sat, 3 Aug 96 16:06:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20313; Sat, 3 Aug 96 16:04:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20307; Sat, 3 Aug 96 16:04:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umpj3-00038BC; Sat, 3 Aug 96 16:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: Re: standard-printer is a list ? Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 15:25:35 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4sugcd$142@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4sugcd$142@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> On 22 Jul 1996, Avery Earle wrote: |Now, the setup printer screen looks (in part) like this |------------------------------------------------------------------- | | Standard UNIX print command | Using this option may require setting your "PRINTER" or "LPDEST" | environment variable using the standard UNIX utilities. | Printer List: "" lpr -Pthis | "" lpr -Pthat | "" lpr -Pother | |------------------------------------------------------------------- | |Question: are those quote marks surrounding some descriptive |text, and how do I specify that? | |Regards. From what I have noticed is that the new versions will ask for the name of the printer and then the print command. What happens when you actually enter in a printer name, instead of leaving it blank, when you go to print it will tell you which printer you are printing to. In other words if you entered in the name Pthis for the lpr -Pthis the confing screen would look like this: Printer list: "Pthis" lpr -Pthis and then when you go to print the print message will say: message sent to printer Pthis. Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 16:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23901; Sat, 3 Aug 96 16:21:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03979; Sat, 3 Aug 96 16:20:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03973; Sat, 3 Aug 96 16:20:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umpy1-00038BC; Sat, 3 Aug 96 16:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rick O'Sullivan Subject: IMAP worked, now it doesn't? Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 11:26:07 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have an IMAP daemon running on my server (AmigaDOS) that has worked in the past (last spring). Recently, when I was on travel and attempted to access my mail remotely, I received the Pine complaint ... [[CLOSED] IMAP connection broken (server response)] Any clues? Rick __ __ __ __ __ __ ---------------------__/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\__----------------------- Altofirma WebWords /\_\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\_\ Richard P. O'Sullivan http://www.aww.com/ \/_/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/_/ rosully@aww.com --------------------- \/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/ ----------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 17:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24255; Sat, 3 Aug 96 17:02:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21046; Sat, 3 Aug 96 17:00:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21034; Sat, 3 Aug 96 17:00:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umqb8-00038TC; Sat, 3 Aug 96 16:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine and MH Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:53:16 -0700 Message-Id: References: <4tberq$j2b@post.gsfc.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4tberq$j2b@post.gsfc.nasa.gov> Yes, Pine can read and write MH folders. If your MH folders reside on the local machine, go to the Setup/Config screen and configure inbox-path=#MHINBOX folder-collections=#MH/[] You can also set these as system-wide defaults in your /usr/local/lib/pine.conf file. If you have sub-folders, you will need to specify a separate collection for each sub-folder. We are planning to remove that limitation when we add hierarchy support to Pine 4.x. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 26 Jul 1996, William Thompson wrote: > From: William Thompson > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Pine and MH > Date: 26 Jul 1996 21:55:06 GMT > Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- Greenbelt, Maryland USA > Message-ID: <4tberq$j2b@post.gsfc.nasa.gov> > NNTP-Posting-Host: orpheus.nascom.nasa.gov > X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #4 (NOV) > > > I'm looking for an easy-to-use text-based mail program which runs on text-based > terminals to supplement the X-windows based applications that we already use. > Since the X-windows applications use MH for the folders, the text based program > must also use MH. > > I've copied over a copy of Pine, and the documentation seems to suggest that it > is capable of at least reading MH folders although it's not clear how to make > it do that. It's also not clear whether or not Pine can also save properly to > MH folders, as well as read them. > > Can anyone suggest how to proceed? Is Pine the right software for my > application? Please respond by email to > > thompson@orpheus.nascom.nasa.gov > > as I don't usually read this newsgroup. > > Thank you, > > William Thompson > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 17:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24313; Sat, 3 Aug 96 17:12:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04529; Sat, 3 Aug 96 17:10:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04523; Sat, 3 Aug 96 17:10:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umqkB-00038BC; Sat, 3 Aug 96 17:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jim eagle Subject: Short Replies Not Allowed by Pine3.95 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 13:42:54 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII OK ... when I attempt to give a short reply to a newsgroup message using Pine3.95, I am sometimes not allowed to post because I am re-using more lines from the previous email than I am adding of my own. This is moderately annoying, and encourages me to pad my reply with blank lines. ****************************************************************** * How do I turn this lovely "feature" of Pine3.95 off?? Thanks.* ****************************************************************** Jim Eagle Naval Postgraduate School Monterey, CA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 17:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24288; Sat, 3 Aug 96 17:41:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21507; Sat, 3 Aug 96 17:40:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21501; Sat, 3 Aug 96 17:40:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umrDu-00038TC; Sat, 3 Aug 96 17:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Turning off Mail Copies Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 20:17:45 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 3 Aug 1996, Carl Kim wrote: : Right now, I have pine configured to keep a copy of every mail that I : send in the "SentBox". I think I did this with the fcc function. : : Anyway, there are times when I would really like to turn this off for a : particular message (like very large ones). : : Is there a command or kludge to do this? Nothing simpler. Before you send the message, put the curser on the Fcc: line in the header and press ^K (Control-K). This will blank out the line and the message will not be saved. I do it all the time for tiny little acknowledgement messages that aren't worth keeping copies of. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 18:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24663; Sat, 3 Aug 96 18:01:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05040; Sat, 3 Aug 96 18:00:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05034; Sat, 3 Aug 96 18:00:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umrVS-00038BC; Sat, 3 Aug 96 17:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Semyon Subject: HELP!!!! Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 20:13:29 -0400 Message-Id: <3203EB29.62B6@advn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I got some info from ftp://128.146.20.83/ Now they change their directories and important files dissapears. How to find old files or e-mail of this FTP-master? Please, respond directly to my e-mail. Thanks Semyon (user-idiot) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 19:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25133; Sat, 3 Aug 96 19:31:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22586; Sat, 3 Aug 96 19:30:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22580; Sat, 3 Aug 96 19:30:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umsue-00038BC; Sat, 3 Aug 96 19:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: how to disable "User known" message In-Reply-To: "A.T. Phillips"'s message of Wed, 31 Jul 1996 09: 51:33 -0700 Message-Id: References: Date: Sat, 3 Aug 1996 22:20:42 GMT In article "A.T. Phillips" writes: If I attempt to send an email to a nonexistent user on my local system, Pine 3.94 rejects the attempt with the following message: Mail not sent: ... User unknown Is there a way to turn this off, and force the mail to be sent (and bounced of course)? I see you're posting from a Unix host, specifically an SGI. Is it safe to assume you're doing this for test purposes, not something you'll need a whole lot on every day? If so, I'd recommend just using the Unix mail utility. Under IRIX 5.x (at least) this is /usr/sbin/Mail. Best regards, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/435-2983 http://www.access.digex.net/%7Erobjen/dc-sage/bios/rick_troxel/ /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 22:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26823; Sat, 3 Aug 96 22:52:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24763; Sat, 3 Aug 96 22:50:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24757; Sat, 3 Aug 96 22:50:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umw3M-00038BC; Sat, 3 Aug 96 22:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: abe0084@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (Adam Vardy) Subject: Re: How to Export Text? Date: 4 Aug 1996 01:20:12 GMT Message-Id: <4u0tsc$66v@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> References: <4tup1e$5s6@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Annelise Anderson (andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) wrote: : I'd like to be able to export selected text from a message instead : of an entire message--and also append text to a file in a later : export. Is this possible....or just too much for little pine? I suppose you can just E - Export the message, and then edit it in an editor when you exit Pine. That is not too difficult. - Adam From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 22:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26827; Sat, 3 Aug 96 22:52:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08112; Sat, 3 Aug 96 22:50:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08106; Sat, 3 Aug 96 22:50:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umw3l-00038TC; Sat, 3 Aug 96 22:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: abe0084@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (Adam Vardy) Subject: message gone! Date: 4 Aug 1996 01:17:53 GMT Message-Id: <4u0to1$66v@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> I had a postponed message. Just now I started continuing to write it. Then I think I pressed Control C. There is no sign now of this message anywhere. Gone! Arhhh..#$! Can I get it back? If not, I really think Pine ought to be updated so that it would not destroy messages. This message had already been saved to a message folder called postponed messages. - Adam From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 22:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26852; Sat, 3 Aug 96 22:56:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08160; Sat, 3 Aug 96 22:55:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08154; Sat, 3 Aug 96 22:55:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umw6I-00038BC; Sat, 3 Aug 96 22:51 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: des@world.std.com Subject: what are the apply and mark features Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 01:17:25 GMT What are the apply and mark features in Pine? How would one use them? In what instances, and how would one set them? I tried looking these up in configuration, and I tried the help in pine, but there is little mention of it. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 Aug 1996 23:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26904; Sat, 3 Aug 96 23:07:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24912; Sat, 3 Aug 96 23:05:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24906; Sat, 3 Aug 96 23:05:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umwJA-00038BC; Sat, 3 Aug 96 23:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: an695686@anon.penet.fi Message-Id: <060329Z04081996@anon.penet.fi> Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 06:02:14 UTC Subject: mime jest --****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--***ATTENTION*** Your e-mail reply to this message WILL be *automatically* ANONYMIZED. Please, report inappropriate use to abuse@anon.penet.fi For information (incl. non-anon reply) write to help@anon.penet.fi If you have any problems, address them to admin@anon.penet.fi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 01:27:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27661; Sun, 4 Aug 96 01:27:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26277; Sun, 4 Aug 96 01:25:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26271; Sun, 4 Aug 96 01:25:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umyU9-00038BC; Sun, 4 Aug 96 01:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: o4u9@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Far Beyond Driven...) Subject: pine+linux+ppp how? Date: 3 Aug 1996 07:06:53 GMT Message-Id: <4tutqd$sft@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> I was wondering how to config pine to send mail with my ppp account and have the right sender appear ? -- Sweet smell of great sorrow lies over the land, Plumes of smoke rise, and merge into the leaden sky, A man lies and dreams, of green fields and river, But awakes to the morning, with no reason for waking. He's haunted by the memory of a lost paradise, In his youthful dream, he can't be precise, He's chained forever, to a world thats departed, It's not enough, it's not enough. -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 03:02:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28222; Sun, 4 Aug 96 03:02:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10564; Sun, 4 Aug 96 03:01:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10558; Sun, 4 Aug 96 03:01:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0umzvE-00038BC; Sun, 4 Aug 96 02:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Hjelt Subject: Disable annoying "Delete sent-mail-xxx?" queries on startup? Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 12:59:15 +0300 Message-Id: <32047473.1F75399@iki.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After upgrading to pine 3.95 everything was fine until the month changed to August. Now pine asks me to delete old sent-mail folders _every_ time I start pine, even if I told it no on all previous years sent mail month by month on last pine startup. This tends to get at you when you have to press 'N' some 100 times before you can enter pine to read some mail =) Why does it want to delete sent mail at all? I have never deleted a message I've sent so far, and the collection is not much over 40MB. Sent mail is a good reference when old issues are brought up, or when you wonder what was going on with this and that back then. Anyway, is there a switch to turn this "feature" off? I want to keep all mail w/o going out and rename the sent-mail folders manually every month. Thanks. /*------------------------------------------------------------------------ E-Mail: phjelt@iki.fi URL: http://www.iki.fi/phjelt/ IRC: nick MXV on EICN/EF Tel: +358-0-5054790, +358-50-5665952 ------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 08:58:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29982; Sun, 4 Aug 96 08:58:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00864; Sun, 4 Aug 96 08:56:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00858; Sun, 4 Aug 96 08:56:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0un5VQ-00038BC; Sun, 4 Aug 96 08:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Thomas binder Subject: HELP *** AUTO-RESPOND *** Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 17:43:14 +0200 Message-Id: <3204C512.3BF9@public.uni-augsburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, i got a problem installing an auto-respond to all incoming mails. I got a account on a LINUX-Server and therefore I use UNIX-Pine (Version 3.90 (built Tue Aug 22 19:50:49 CDT 1995)). I will be on vacation for a long time and don't want my e-mail-partners going crazy on not getting a response from me. I would like to reply to all messages with a standard text telling them, that i am on vacation and won't be able to respond to my mails. Is there any possibility to do that with pine???? I would be very happy to hear from you soon. Please do also respond to the following E-mail-Adress. Thanks... Thomas (Thomas.Binder@public.uni-augsburg.de) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 09:46:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30266; Sun, 4 Aug 96 09:46:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AB01445; Sun, 4 Aug 96 09:44:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ACS4.BU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01439; Sun, 4 Aug 96 09:44:52 -0700 Received: by acs4.bu.edu (8.6.13/BU_SmartClient-1.0) id MAA146629; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 12:40:50 -0400 Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 12:40:49 -0400 (EDT) From: philip maxwell To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII YOUR MOTHER WAS A HAMSTER AND YOUR FATHER SMELLS OF ELDERBERRIES... - Monty Python GUNS COMPEL BUTTER! Its not the economy Stupid. - IR Prof. Angelo Codevilla Ah yes a classic. A book that nobody reads, but everyone praises. - Mark Twain From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 10:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30388; Sun, 4 Aug 96 10:08:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14827; Sun, 4 Aug 96 10:06:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14821; Sun, 4 Aug 96 10:06:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0un6bK-00038BC; Sun, 4 Aug 96 10:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rfunk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Rob Funk) Subject: Re: [Q] Headers Date: 4 Aug 1996 13:02:57 -0400 Message-Id: <4u2l41$9n5@ts28-9.homenet.ohio-state.edu> References: In article , Matt Chatterley wrote: >Just wondering, how, if it's possible, can I see the full heads >(x-headers?) for an email or usenet post that was sent me / I am viewing, >in pine? Is the only way to do this to include full headers in replies? Hit "h" to toggle between seeing all the headers and only seeing a few. You need to have "enable-full-header-cmd" on in your configuration. -- ============= R o b F u n k =============|=========> funk+@osu.edu <========= "A slice of life isn't the whole cake |rfunk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu One tooth will never make a full grin" |rfunk@freenet.columbus.oh.us -- Chris Mars, "Stuck in Rewind" |http://er4www.eng.ohio-state.edu/~funkr From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 10:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30419; Sun, 4 Aug 96 10:13:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14892; Sun, 4 Aug 96 10:12:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sweden-f.it.earthlink.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14886; Sun, 4 Aug 96 10:12:46 -0700 Received: from Earthlink.net.www.earthlink.net (pool043.maxd.los_angeles.ca.us.dynip.earthlink.net [206.250.113.193]) by sweden.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA08164 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 13:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3204DA8F.768B@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 10:14:55 -0700 From: Scott X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5aGold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: massive e-mail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit how can I setup a e-mail list from the net,usergroups,etc and mail to them in windows 95 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 14:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32175; Sun, 4 Aug 96 14:39:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17760; Sun, 4 Aug 96 14:38:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from homer04.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17754; Sun, 4 Aug 96 14:38:06 -0700 Received: from localhost by homer04.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA51140; Sun, 4 Aug 96 14:38:05 -0700 Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 14:38:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "Martin M. Cron" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: A Suggestion Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello Pine Team, I am using PINE is a newsreader, and because I am famialiar enough with the interface, it is working very well for me. There are some news-oriented features I would like to request, however. 1) Be able to select messages based on a Text string in the newsgroup field (this would allow me to select all messages cross-posted to any alt. groups by searching for ALT in the newsgroups field. I could also select all cross-posted messages by just selecting the ones with a comma in the newsgroup field. 2)A kill user feature, that would allow me to automatically exclude all messages from user X. This way I could 'kill' the headhunters on seattle.jobs.offered and also the really annoying guy on rec.music.classical. I guess this could also apply to e-mail as well, so I wouldn't have to read e-mail from my ex-girlfriend. If you have any comments based on my suggestions, please e-mail me. Thanks, -Martin Cron From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 15:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32530; Sun, 4 Aug 96 15:34:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05085; Sun, 4 Aug 96 15:32:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05079; Sun, 4 Aug 96 15:32:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unBfu-00038BC; Sun, 4 Aug 96 15:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: HELP *** AUTO-RESPOND *** Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 18:10:48 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3204C512.3BF9@public.uni-augsburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3204C512.3BF9@public.uni-augsburg.de> On Sun, 4 Aug 1996, Thomas binder wrote: > i got a problem installing an auto-respond to all incoming mails. > I got a account on a LINUX-Server and therefore I use UNIX-Pine (Version > 3.90 (built Tue Aug 22 19:50:49 CDT 1995)). I will be on vacation for a > long time and don't want my e-mail-partners going crazy on not getting a > response from me. > I would like to reply to all messages with a standard text telling them, > that i am on vacation and won't be able to respond to my mails. > > Is there any possibility to do that with pine???? Pine will not do this for you. However, because LINUX is a variant of Un*x, you may have the program 'vacation' on your system. If you do, it will do what you want in a simple way. If the program 'procmail' is installed, it is a powerful mail processing program which can do many things, including make automatic responses more elaborately than vacation. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 15:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32542; Sun, 4 Aug 96 15:34:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18353; Sun, 4 Aug 96 15:33:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18347; Sun, 4 Aug 96 15:33:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unBhW-00038TC; Sun, 4 Aug 96 15:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: how to disable "User known" message Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 17:45:25 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 31 Jul 1996, A.T. Phillips wrote: > If I attempt to send an email to a nonexistent user on my local > system, Pine 3.94 rejects the attempt with the following > message: > > Mail not sent: ... User unknown > > Is there a way to turn this off, and force the mail to be sent > (and bounced of course)? There is probably a more direct way of doing this, but ... If you set your smtp-host in your Setup Configuration to a machine which doesn't know itself what users are on your machine (so it will accept the message from Pine, but letter bounce when it tries to pass it to your machine) you will get a real bounce message. I'm sure that there are other ways, and this might not serve your purpose depending on why you want to do what you want to do. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 15:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32548; Sun, 4 Aug 96 15:35:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05107; Sun, 4 Aug 96 15:34:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05101; Sun, 4 Aug 96 15:34:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unBi4-00038UC; Sun, 4 Aug 96 15:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jeremy@hiway1.exit109.com (Jeremy) Subject: Re: massive e-mail Date: 4 Aug 1996 13:50:48 -0400 Message-Id: <4u2nto$p8o@hiway1.exit109.com> References: <4u2lp4$t4@rain.psg.com> cybersonics@earthlink.net (Scott) wrote: >how can I setup a e-mail list from the net,usergroups,etc >and mail to them in windows 95 You can't. Go away. -- Jeremy jeremy@exit109.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 16:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00023; Sun, 4 Aug 96 16:06:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18692; Sun, 4 Aug 96 16:05:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vigrid.cfar.umd.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18686; Sun, 4 Aug 96 16:05:15 -0700 Received: from localhost by vigrid.cfar.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA17665; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 19:05:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 19:05:05 -0400 (EDT) From: ADAM Sulmicki To: Jeremy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: massive e-mail In-Reply-To: <4u2nto$p8o@hiway1.exit109.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A little hint. For start do the following steps: 1) Delete win95 2) Install some free unix. Like Linux, or *BSD. 3) Ask the question again. (replaing the windows w/ your favourite unix system you are using) ->cybersonics@earthlink.net (Scott) wrote: ->>how can I setup a e-mail list from the net,usergroups,etc ->>and mail to them in windows 95 -> ->You can't. Go away. -> ->-- ->Jeremy ->jeremy@exit109.com -> -Adam From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 16:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00359; Sun, 4 Aug 96 16:54:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19207; Sun, 4 Aug 96 16:52:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19201; Sun, 4 Aug 96 16:52:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unCvh-00038BC; Sun, 4 Aug 96 16:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Manoj Kasichainula Subject: ssh with pine 3.95 Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 19:39:03 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've been trying to set up pine and my IMAP server so that I can get read mail securely using ssh. Here's what I've done 1. Removed rsh, and crearted a symlink: rsh -> ssh 2. Copied ~/.ssh/identity.pub to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys (I'm only trying this locally until I can get it working. 3. ln -s /usr/sbin/imapd /etc/rimapd When I start pine, it gets a successful connection (according to my syslog). But for some reason pine closes the connection (the pine-debug files don't even give an indication that an rsh connection was attempted) and goes through normal password authentication. Here is the relevant output from sshd -d: debug: Received session key; encryption turned on. debug: Attempting authentication for manojk. debug: Trying rhosts with RSA host authentication for manojk debug: RhostsRSA authentication failed for 'manojk', remote 'manojk', host 'chutney.ini.cmu.edu'. log: RSA authentication for manojk accepted. debug: Received request for X11 forwarding with auth spoofing. debug: Allocated channel 0. debug: Executing command 'exec /etc/rimapd' debug: Entering interactive session. debug: EOF received for stdin. debug: Received SIGCHLD. debug: End of interactive session; stdin 0, stdout (read 97, sent 97), stderr 379 bytes. debug: Command exited with status 1. debug: Received exit confirmation. Here is the initial output from rsh localhost exec /etc/rimapd: * PREAUTH chutney.ini.cmu.edu IMAP2bis Service 7.8(100) at Sun, 4 Aug 1996 19:25:41 -0400 (EDT) Any ideas on how to fix this? Thanks for your help. Please e-mail your responses, since our news feed is slooow. _________________________________________________________________________ Manoj Kasichainula - manojk@andrew.cmu.edu | "Violence is the first refuge http://dosa.ini.cmu.edu/~manojk/ | of the violent." Finger for PGP public key & Geek Code | - Aaron Allston From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 19:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01508; Sun, 4 Aug 96 19:29:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07780; Sun, 4 Aug 96 19:28:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07774; Sun, 4 Aug 96 19:28:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unFO4-00038BC; Sun, 4 Aug 96 19:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scrit@azstarnet.com Subject: Incoming Mail from remote accnt Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 19:17:51 -0700 Message-Id: <320559CF.1CCA@azstarnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've had no problems with running pine or sending mail through it, but could someone tell me how to configure pine so it looks up my account on my ISP's mail server? Also, how would pine deal with the password required for the account? I wouldn't like anyone to be able to telnet to my computer and get my mail. Thanks for any info in advance. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 19:39:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01571; Sun, 4 Aug 96 19:39:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21249; Sun, 4 Aug 96 19:38:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21243; Sun, 4 Aug 96 19:38:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unFV9-00038BC; Sun, 4 Aug 96 19:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: How Do I Do: Mass Mailings in PINE Date: 5 Aug 1996 02:25:52 GMT Message-Id: <4u3m3g$ip8@arl-news-svc-5.compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain This is probably is simple question but... Is there any way of sending a letter from regular PINE to a destination list which is given as vlaid network addresses in an ASCII text or ASCII delimited format? e.g. jill@internic.net jack@internic.net guennivere@internic.net etc. Secondly, if this is not possible in regular PINE is there a batch mode PINE or some other batch program which would support this type of multi-sending. Third where can I find the VMS/OPEN-VMS version of PINE? Thanks in Advance, Martin Green From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 20:49:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02242; Sun, 4 Aug 96 20:49:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08772; Sun, 4 Aug 96 20:48:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08766; Sun, 4 Aug 96 20:48:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unGaE-00038BC; Sun, 4 Aug 96 20:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sami Tikka Subject: Re: cool thing with imap and mailing list archives Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 15:27:01 +0300 Message-Id: <31FF5115.7117@research.nokia.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Exactly how do you configure imapd to allow people to access mailing list archives? I asked this once a while ago but I got no replies. Apparently there are people who know how to do this. Could you share your wisdom with us? Thanks, Sami From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 22:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03086; Sun, 4 Aug 96 22:15:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23214; Sun, 4 Aug 96 22:13:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23208; Sun, 4 Aug 96 22:13:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unHuv-00038BC; Sun, 4 Aug 96 22:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Tse" Subject: ASCII Transfer and Pico Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 00:10:38 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Hi Pico and Pine users, I have been having problems with ASCII transfer (using a terminal program such as Telix) and Pico. Whenever I transfer an ASCII message into Pico, all the lines are jammed into 1 single line and Pico continually tries to "justify" the message. Any one has the same experience? I tried transferring the ASCII message into Vi and the UNIX prompt and there was no problem. Thus I think it isn't a problem of CR/LF. The version of Pico I'm using is 2.5. I'll appreciate any help. Thanks in advance. J. Tse From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 01:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04316; Mon, 5 Aug 96 01:17:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25154; Mon, 5 Aug 96 01:14:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25148; Mon, 5 Aug 96 01:14:54 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 5 Aug 1996 09:12:34 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA26385; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 09:14:26 +0100 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 09:14:26 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Adam Vardy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: message gone! In-Reply-To: <4u0to1$66v@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It would have helped if you had mentioned what version of Pine you are using! The old Pine 3.91 did indeed throw away your message if you cancelled it (with ^C). However later versions (possibly 3.92, certainly 3.93, current version is 3.95) usually write cancelled messages to a file called "dead.letter" in your home directory just in case the cancellation was accidental. PC-Pine also, I presume, offers this functionality, although I don't know the name of the file it uses. If you are using Pine 3.93 or later and this isn't happening it has probably been turned off in your preferences ... check your Setup Configuration screen. (In passing I presume you don't mean that Pine really did throw your message away "just" by you typing ^C? I suspect it then asked you whether you _really_ wanted to cancel the message, to which you must have replied "Y", before it did so. However I admit it is unfortunate that most keyboards have X and C next to each other (^X = send, ^C = cancel) :-) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 4 Aug 1996, Adam Vardy wrote: > > I had a postponed message. Just now I started continuing to write it. > Then I think I pressed Control C. > > There is no sign now of this message anywhere. Gone! Arhhh..#$! > > Can I get it back? > > If not, I really think Pine ought to be updated so that it would not destroy > messages. > > This message had already been saved to a message folder called postponed > messages. > > - Adam > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 01:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04340; Mon, 5 Aug 96 01:21:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12198; Mon, 5 Aug 96 01:18:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12192; Mon, 5 Aug 96 01:18:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unKrp-00038BC; Mon, 5 Aug 96 01:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sandra Pratt Subject: attachment ? for MacLC Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 00:56:35 -0700 Message-Id: References: <4u473v$bc0_002@u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4u473v$bc0_002@u.washington.edu> I'd like to know if I can put a disk in my Mac and attach a file from the disk to a mail message. If it is possible, how is it done? I need to send something to a colleague and it is on another computer. We would both prefer to not have to retype the file. It is quite long. Thanks for any help you can give. Sandi Sandra Pratt Yelm, WA I have the ability to learn from my mistakes. I expect to learn a great deal today. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 02:06:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04618; Mon, 5 Aug 96 02:06:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12725; Mon, 5 Aug 96 02:02:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from frank.mtsu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12719; Mon, 5 Aug 96 02:02:50 -0700 Received: from localhost by frank.mtsu.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA008645852; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 04:04:12 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 04:04:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "Hiram Lester Jr." To: Pine Info List Subject: Re: ASCII Transfer and Pico In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, J. Tse wrote: > Hi Pico and Pine users, > I have been having problems with ASCII transfer (using a > terminal program such as Telix) and Pico. Whenever I transfer > an ASCII message into Pico, all the lines are jammed into 1 > single line and Pico continually tries to "justify" the > message. > Any one has the same experience? > I tried transferring the ASCII message into Vi and the UNIX > prompt and there was no problem. Thus I think it isn't a > problem of CR/LF. > The version of Pico I'm using is 2.5. > I'll appreciate any help. Thanks in advance. If you are having problems with line wrapping, you can turn it off with the -w flag when you start pico. +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Hiram W. Lester, Jr. | E-Mail: hwlester@pobox.com | | Computer Science | Homepage: | | Middle Tennessee State University | http://pobox.com/~hwlester/ | +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 02:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04790; Mon, 5 Aug 96 02:35:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13025; Mon, 5 Aug 96 02:33:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13019; Mon, 5 Aug 96 02:33:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unM0u-00038BC; Mon, 5 Aug 96 02:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: How Do I Do: Mass Mailings in PINE Date: 5 Aug 1996 02:24:58 GMT Message-Id: <4u3m1q$ip8@arl-news-svc-5.compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain This is probably is simple question but... Is there any way of sending a letter from regular PINE to a destination list which is given as vlaid network addresses in an ASCII text or ASCII delimited format? e.g. jill@internic.net jack@internic.net guennivere@internic.net etc. Secondly, if this is not possible in regular PINE is there a batch mode PINE or some other batch program which would support this type of multi-sending. Third where can I find the VMS/OPEN-VMS version of PINE? Thanks in Advance, Martin Green From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 02:35:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04792; Mon, 5 Aug 96 02:35:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26057; Mon, 5 Aug 96 02:33:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26051; Mon, 5 Aug 96 02:33:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unM1U-00038TC; Mon, 5 Aug 96 02:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: How Do I Do: Mass Mailings in PINE Date: 5 Aug 1996 02:26:58 GMT Message-Id: <4u3m5i$ip8@arl-news-svc-5.compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain This is probably is simple question but... Is there any way of sending a letter from regular PINE to a destination list which is given as vlaid network addresses in an ASCII text or ASCII delimited format? e.g. jill@internic.net jack@internic.net guennivere@internic.net etc. Secondly, if this is not possible in regular PINE is there a batch mode PINE or some other batch program which would support this type of multi-sending. Third where can I find the VMS/OPEN-VMS version of PINE? Thanks in Advance, Martin Green From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 03:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05130; Mon, 5 Aug 96 03:20:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13488; Mon, 5 Aug 96 03:19:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13473; Mon, 5 Aug 96 03:19:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unMfn-00038BC; Mon, 5 Aug 96 03:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matt Chatterley Subject: Re: pine+linux+ppp how? Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 17:52:13 +0000 Message-Id: References: <4tutqd$sft@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> <4u03jl$6sq@ts25-13.homenet.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4u03jl$6sq@ts25-13.homenet.ohio-state.edu> On 3 Aug 1996, Rob Funk wrote: > In article <4tutqd$sft@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca>, > Far Beyond Driven... wrote: > > I was wondering how to config pine to send mail with my ppp account > >and have the right sender appear ? You can't actually do this.. but you can get close - ie close enough that replies will work, by setting reply-to to your real email address, this is what I do, and it works fine for me. :) Regards, -Matt Chatterley http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html "Do not meddle in the affairs of Wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger." --J.R.R Tolkien From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 08:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08035; Mon, 5 Aug 96 08:18:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00642; Mon, 5 Aug 96 08:15:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00636; Mon, 5 Aug 96 08:15:09 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 5 Aug 96 23:19:40 +0800 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 23:12:38 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: hamlet@panix.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How Do I Do: Mass Mailings in PINE In-Reply-To: <4u3m5i$ip8@arl-news-svc-5.compuserve.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 5 Aug 1996 hamlet@panix.com wrote: > > This is probably is simple question but... > > Is there any way of sending a letter from regular PINE to a destination list > which is given as vlaid network addresses in an ASCII text or ASCII > delimited format? Yes. From the M(ain) menu of pine go to A(ddressbook) and type ?(help). Then do a bit of reading. > Secondly, if this is not possible in regular PINE is there a batch mode > PINE or some other batch program which would support this type of > multi-sending. TMK, pine does not support a command line send. > Third where can I find the VMS/OPEN-VMS version of PINE? Don't know....but others may be more helpful on this matter. ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 08:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08485; Mon, 5 Aug 96 08:37:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17672; Mon, 5 Aug 96 08:29:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17664; Mon, 5 Aug 96 08:29:32 -0700 Received: from linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us (michael@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us [198.187.135.22]) by linknet (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA11201; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 08:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 08:28:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Schuyler To: Adam Vardy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: message gone! In-Reply-To: <4u0to1$66v@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 4 Aug 1996, Adam Vardy wrote: > > I had a postponed message. Just now I started continuing to write it. > Then I think I pressed Control C. > > There is no sign now of this message anywhere. Gone! Arhhh..#$! > > Can I get it back? No > > If not, I really think Pine ought to be updated so that it would not destroy > messages. I don't think so, myself. It already allows postponed messages (severl, if you want) If you start composing and cancel, that's you decision. What you're asking is for Pine to not delete a message when you ask it to delete a message. You could always keep the prompting on. It ASKS you if you really want to cancel the message and you must say "Y" to really cancel it. > > This message had already been saved to a message folder called postponed > messages. > Right, and you took it FROM postponed messages to work on it some more. Then you cancelled it. Pine acted correctly. Build a system a fool could use and only a fool. will use it. o o o o o o o . . . _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | Kitsap Regional | | LinkNet Support | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | Library | | 'least we try! | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|____________________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ============================================================================ Support: (360) 405-9131 Fax:(360) 405-9128 support@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us Michael Schuyler: Voice:(360) 405-9139 michael@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 08:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08600; Mon, 5 Aug 96 08:43:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01415; Mon, 5 Aug 96 08:39:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01409; Mon, 5 Aug 96 08:39:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unRgy-00038BC; Mon, 5 Aug 96 08:35 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Will Cooke Subject: AIX RS6000 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 09:21:33 GMT I'm having trouble finding a pre-compiled version of PICO that will run on a RS6000 machine. Does anyone know where I can get a copy? Ta, --Will. P.S. Reply by email would be nice!! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anything I say or do is nothing whatso ever to do with The Nottingham Trent University. Even if they made me do it. William Cooke - st2coow@doc.ntu.ac.uk - cc062wc01@ntu.ac.uk ------------http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d4f8bu/web-docs/index.html--------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 08:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08841; Mon, 5 Aug 96 08:54:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18201; Mon, 5 Aug 96 08:51:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dhc1.deehoward.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18195; Mon, 5 Aug 96 08:51:28 -0700 Received: from localhost by dhc1.deehoward.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA12456; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 10:48:48 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 10:48:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrea Gonzales To: Michael Schuyler Cc: Adam Vardy , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: message gone! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The properway to do this is if you go to a postponed msg. and then decide not to write anything again, you postpone it again. ^O Good Luck. On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Michael Schuyler wrote: > On 4 Aug 1996, Adam Vardy wrote: > > > > > I had a postponed message. Just now I started continuing to write it. > > Then I think I pressed Control C. > > > > There is no sign now of this message anywhere. Gone! Arhhh..#$! > > > > Can I get it back? > > No > > > > > If not, I really think Pine ought to be updated so that it would not destroy > > messages. > > I don't think so, myself. It already allows postponed messages (severl, if > you want) If you start composing and cancel, that's you decision. What > you're asking is for Pine to not delete a message when you ask it to > delete a message. You could always keep the prompting on. It ASKS you if > you really want to cancel the message and you must say "Y" to really > cancel it. > > > > > This message had already been saved to a message folder called postponed > > messages. > > > Right, and you took it FROM postponed messages to work on it some more. > Then you cancelled it. Pine acted correctly. > > > > Build a system a fool could use and only a fool. will use it. > o o o o o o o . . . _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ > o _____ | Kitsap Regional | | LinkNet Support | > .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | Library | | 'least we try! | > >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|____________________|_ > _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` > ============================================================================ > Support: (360) 405-9131 Fax:(360) 405-9128 support@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us > Michael Schuyler: Voice:(360) 405-9139 michael@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrea D. Gonzales adg5283@dhc1.deehowrd.com Dee Howard Co. Mfg. Division Shipping & Receiving Dept. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 09:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09092; Mon, 5 Aug 96 09:08:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18676; Mon, 5 Aug 96 09:05:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18624; Mon, 5 Aug 96 09:04:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unS6G-00038BC; Mon, 5 Aug 96 09:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: memory leak in pine?? Date: 31 Jul 1996 19:15:25 -0500 Message-Id: <4tosut$1cr@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article , ADAM Sulmicki wrote: > I think it happens after I open an folder of 9'500 messages Just out of curiousity, on a good day how long does it take to open a folder with 9k messages in it? Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J6, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 09:11:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09157; Mon, 5 Aug 96 09:11:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18785; Mon, 5 Aug 96 09:07:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from capital.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18777; Mon, 5 Aug 96 09:07:18 -0700 Received: from athena.capital.edu by capital.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27549; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 12:00:15 -0400 Received: by athena.capital.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA29799; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 12:00:11 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 12:00:11 -0400 From: ttappan@capital.edu (Tom Tappan) Message-Id: <9608051600.AA29799@athena.capital.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Locked folders We are running Pine 3.90 on a Linux system. Ithas been used as a dedicated mail server without problem. This past weekend we installed an NCSA Web Server unto the system. The home page offers the possibility of e-mail to our school. This morning we find that none of our users can open Pine folders in anything except read-only mode. Also the old UNIX mail program will not write the outgoing files to the /tmp directory. As near as I can tell the permissions look normal. Any help would be apprpreciated. Thank you. Thomas W. Tappan ttappan@csg.capital.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 10:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10609; Mon, 5 Aug 96 10:17:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04368; Mon, 5 Aug 96 10:14:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04362; Mon, 5 Aug 96 10:14:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unTBT-00038BC; Mon, 5 Aug 96 10:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: goto a line number in pico Date: 31 Jul 1996 19:11:43 -0500 Message-Id: <4tosnv$1bu@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article , Hiram Lester Jr. wrote: > On Wed, 31 Jul 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > Ummmmm... The original question was about how to jump to a specific line > > within the Pico editor (and hence by implication I suspect also within > > Pine's internal composer). > > I don't think there is a way to jump once in the editor, but if Pico is > called with a +n where n is a number, it will start with the cursor on > that line. Thanks for the info. I had tried the +n command line option and it did work, but I have users that know only pico as a Unix editor and need to be able to move around in source files and make modifications (perhaps fixing errors while trying to get something to compile). If there are 10 errors on various lines in a large file, it's a PITA to have to make a change, save your change, quit pico, and then resart with some new +N linenumber to go to the next error. A number of users had asked if there was a better way. Now I can tell them definitively, "Not with pico." Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J6, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 11:23:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11949; Mon, 5 Aug 96 11:23:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22669; Mon, 5 Aug 96 11:20:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from phantom.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22663; Mon, 5 Aug 96 11:20:08 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by phantom.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.07/8.7.3+UW96.07) with SMTP id LAA17063; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 11:20:05 -0700 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 11:20:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "J. Tse" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ASCII Transfer and Pico In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Notwithstanding your vi test, I think this is a problem with CR/LF... (Not all programs operate with the same terminal driver modes.) Try looking for a config option on your terminal program that permits CRs to be sent without turning them into CR/LFs. -teg On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, J. Tse wrote: > Hi Pico and Pine users, > I have been having problems with ASCII transfer (using a > terminal program such as Telix) and Pico. Whenever I transfer > an ASCII message into Pico, all the lines are jammed into 1 > single line and Pico continually tries to "justify" the > message. > Any one has the same experience? > I tried transferring the ASCII message into Vi and the UNIX > prompt and there was no problem. Thus I think it isn't a > problem of CR/LF. > The version of Pico I'm using is 2.5. > I'll appreciate any help. Thanks in advance. > > J. Tse > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 12:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12975; Mon, 5 Aug 96 12:06:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23990; Mon, 5 Aug 96 12:05:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23966; Mon, 5 Aug 96 12:05:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unUv1-00038BC; Mon, 5 Aug 96 12:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: routers, gateway In-Reply-To: Imran Mohiuddin's message of Mon, 29 Jul 1996 11: 50:16 -0700 Message-Id: References: <31FD07E8.CD4@opal.tufts.edu> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 18:28:14 GMT In article <31FD07E8.CD4@opal.tufts.edu> Imran Mohiuddin writes: Is there anyway that I can trace a mail message using pine? In other words I want to see what routers and gateways it has come throught to get to me? If so, How do I do it? A partial solution would be to configure your pine with the enable-full-header-cmd option turned on, and then press H when reading a message. Read the Received: headers from the bottom up to trace the hosts through which the mail traveled. If you really need to identify routers and gateways, the only tool of which I know is traceroute. It is not retrospective, however. -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/435-2983 http://www.access.digex.net/%7Erobjen/dc-sage/bios/rick_troxel/ /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 13:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14374; Mon, 5 Aug 96 13:22:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09496; Mon, 5 Aug 96 13:20:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09490; Mon, 5 Aug 96 13:20:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unW6F-00038BC; Mon, 5 Aug 96 13:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kathy@fred.net (Kathy Bilton) Subject: Re: Problem w/ 3.94 compared to 3.91 Date: 1 Aug 1996 03:06:08 GMT Message-Id: <4tp6v0$81e@news.fred.net> References: <4tog43$cb@news.fred.net> Kathy Bilton (kathy@fred.net) wrote: : My provider has just installed 3.94 and there is a new feature that keeps : me from being able to do what I used to be able to do, and am wondering if : there is a way to set something so I can do what I was doing before. Please ignore the original message. I tried to cancel it - without success. What had happened was that the command in config about enabling alternate editor had somehow become enabled - and that was what was causing the problem. (I did not enable it myself - so I don't know how it got enabled... I thought it was a function of the newer version of Pine.) --Kathy From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 13:38:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14607; Mon, 5 Aug 96 13:38:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26277; Mon, 5 Aug 96 13:35:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26271; Mon, 5 Aug 96 13:35:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unWJ5-00038BC; Mon, 5 Aug 96 13:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Messina Subject: Re: Usenet Posting Error Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 15:27:18 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4tq92m$smf@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4tq92m$smf@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> To the real technical wizards of comp.mail.pine may I present yet more information concerning my recent inability to post to any of the three sci.aeronautics.* newgroups, ONLY!!! A sympthetic friend was able to confirm one's inability to post to sci.aeronautics.airliners with the debug results below. Remember, unix Pine 3.91 would post just fine to sci.aero... until about a month ago. One can capture all the news from these three groups normally. > I just ran pine at debug level 9 (the highest) and received the following > errors in its debug file while trying to post to sci.aeronautics.airliners: > > IMAP DEBUG: 3nautics-airliners@moderators.uu.net... > Address contained invalid control characters > No recipient addresses found in header > /news/dead.letter... cannot open: Permission denied > 441 Mailer exited with status 16384 -- Article might not have been mailed > > It obviously couldn't build a valid address to mail to for this moderated > news group. Any ideas boys and girls? > > Jim, can you use Pnews instead utill this if fixed in pine? It works Okay. > > - David From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 14:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16168; Mon, 5 Aug 96 14:37:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11757; Mon, 5 Aug 96 14:35:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11751; Mon, 5 Aug 96 14:35:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unXH9-00038BC; Mon, 5 Aug 96 14:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bill Gemmel Subject: Procomm & Pine 3.94 on DG/UX Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 16:23:46 -0700 Message-Id: <32068282.7BF0@bbs.voy-ager.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am creating a e-mail and then attaching a WP document with pine 3.94 and a salesman collects his e-mail with Procomm plus 3.00 on his P.C. In the new Procomm Plus there is a e-mail option in it now. The problem is that when I detach the attachment, WP says invalid Document Format. Is anyone using Procomm's e-mail package with Pine? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 15:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17191; Mon, 5 Aug 96 15:32:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29581; Mon, 5 Aug 96 15:30:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29575; Mon, 5 Aug 96 15:30:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unY8v-00038BC; Mon, 5 Aug 96 15:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: list of headers? Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 18:12:19 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4u473v$bc0_002@u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4u473v$bc0_002@u.washington.edu> On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Ming Ma wrote: > I was wondering what all the available headers I could use in an e-mail message > are. Anyone know? If there is a compilation of such a list could someone > point me to it? Thanks. Internet standards are published what called "Draft" Request For Comments (or RFC). The principle RFC that describes internet mail headers is RFC822, although this has been supplemented by later RFCs describing MIME and other extensioins, everything is based on RFC822. The actual set of headers is not really fixed. A particular program can support headers which are not in the standard. For example, some anonymous remailers support various headers like X-Anon-To:. Well behaved non-standard headers begin "X-" (as specified in RFC822), but some systems use badly behaved non-standard headers. You should be able to find the RFCs at a good internet archive near you. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 15:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17518; Mon, 5 Aug 96 15:44:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13557; Mon, 5 Aug 96 15:41:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13525; Mon, 5 Aug 96 15:40:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unYJZ-00038TC; Mon, 5 Aug 96 15:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Symbolic links for spell for Pine/Pico Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 17:51:09 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4u0qac$159@uucp.intac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4u0qac$159@uucp.intac.com> On 4 Aug 1996, Ed Paolo wrote: > How can I go about doing a symbolic link from /usr/bin/spell to > /usr/contrib/bin/spell ? My Unix system has Spell under a different dir > then the one Pico normally has it for. And the only way I can get it to work > is to do a symbolic link of the two. But I am not that versed in Unix to > do it. In the .pinerc file there is an option "speller" which you can set to anything. Now what I would like is alternative spellers so that I can run either "ispell" or "ispell -d american" depending on where the message is going. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 15:54:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17381; Mon, 5 Aug 96 15:54:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13899; Mon, 5 Aug 96 15:52:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from elaine36.Stanford.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13893; Mon, 5 Aug 96 15:52:46 -0700 Received: (from hopemd@localhost) by elaine36.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA14516; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 15:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 15:52:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Joseph Kim To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Question about printing Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I'm having some trouble printing my email. I was wondering if you could help me because the help command for printing doesn't work. Sincerely, hopemd@leland.stanford.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 16:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18803; Mon, 5 Aug 96 16:36:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01493; Mon, 5 Aug 96 16:34:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from yarra.vicnet.net.au by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01480; Mon, 5 Aug 96 16:34:09 -0700 Received: from rvib2.rvib.org.au (rvib2.rvib.org.au [203.3.138.1]) by yarra.vicnet.net.au (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA26939 for <@yarra.vicnet.net.au:pine-info@cac.washington.edu>; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 09:33:16 +1000 Received: from rvib2.rvib.org.au by rvib2.rvib.org.au id aa28200; 6 Aug 96 9:30 AEST Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 09:30:57 +1000 (AEST) From: Les Wallis To: Pine Info Group Subject: Reading Mac files Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is not *strictly* about Pine, but can someone point me to a program to read a mac disc in a dos drive? Preferably free! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 18:38:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20848; Mon, 5 Aug 96 18:38:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17249; Mon, 5 Aug 96 18:34:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.germany.eu.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17243; Mon, 5 Aug 96 18:34:43 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59:24/EUnetD-2.5.4.c) via EUnet id DAA00667; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 03:34:39 +0200 Message-Id: <199608060132.DAA03023@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id DAA03023; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 03:32:13 +0200 From: Rudolf Kompf Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 14:44:59 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: kompf@m_post.ife-le.de To: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Send a messages again Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How can I send a message again (which was sent but not answered). There is a copy in my default fcc-folder 'sent-mail'. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 19:05:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21214; Mon, 5 Aug 96 19:05:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04305; Mon, 5 Aug 96 19:03:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vigrid.cfar.umd.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04299; Mon, 5 Aug 96 19:03:11 -0700 Received: from localhost by vigrid.cfar.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA19995; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 22:02:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 22:02:58 -0400 (EDT) From: ADAM Sulmicki Reply-To: ADAM Sulmicki To: Tim Mooney Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: memory leak in pine?? In-Reply-To: <4tosut$1cr@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ->> I think it happens after I open an folder of 9'500 messages -> ->Just out of curiousity, on a good day how long does it take to open a folder ->with 9k messages in it? :) Let see...Trying to open saved-messages.. it took about 1 min and 10 second, and it had around 10350 messages and load went up aprox to 0.16.. perhaps I should renice pine to -25 :) But I gave up on using pine for anything else than looking inbox folders, becuse if try open something a bit bigger I get "gifted" w/ something like this (even if I close the folder pine does not give back what it once took) 19917 adam 33 0 26M 12M sleep 0:33 0.04% 0.03% pine Cureently I use glimpse to look over my old mail very cool and fast and pretty useful tool for searching texts of 100mb magnitude. Well gotta quit pine to get its memory usage to sane limits.. but you can try simple experiment, run 'top' at one window , and in other just try open differnet folders using pine in another window, and you notice that pine is eating more and more memory when you open consecutive folders, and is never giving it back. -Adam 13 vigrid% dir total 51467 -rw------- 1 adam 5909301 Aug 5 21:49 archive drwxr-xr-x 2 adam 512 Aug 5 21:51 inbox.mail/ -rw------- 1 adam 8899980 Jul 14 02:54 mail.old -rw------- 1 adam 1282 Aug 5 12:04 postponed-msgs -rw------- 1 adam 20630710 Aug 5 21:50 saved-messages -rw------- 1 adam 13244699 Jun 21 11:53 saved-messages.spring.96 -rw------- 1 adam 3938050 Aug 5 21:40 sent-mail 14 vigrid% uptime 9:53pm up 33 day(s), 22:27, 1 user, load average: 0.14, 0.16, 0.21 15 vigrid% -Adam From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 19:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21241; Mon, 5 Aug 96 19:07:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04377; Mon, 5 Aug 96 19:05:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04371; Mon, 5 Aug 96 19:05:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unbVs-00038BC; Mon, 5 Aug 96 19:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pseelig@dialin102.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (Paul Seelig) Subject: Saving messages without attachments? Date: 5 Aug 1996 18:04:00 GMT Message-Id: <4u5d2g$1b0@dialin102.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sometimes i'm attaching large files (200-300KB) to my mail messages, which i don't want to save to my sent-mail folder although i'd like to save the message itself. Is there some way to make Pine (i'm using 3.95 with Linux) save the sent mail without attachments? The only solution i had so far was to edit the sent-mail folder directly with an editor like vi or emacs, but actually this is not very comfortable... TIA, P. Seelig *8^) -- Paul Seelig pseelig@goofy.zdv.uni-mainz.de African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany Our AMA Homepage in the WWW at http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bender/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 19:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20977; Mon, 5 Aug 96 19:11:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04443; Mon, 5 Aug 96 19:09:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04431; Mon, 5 Aug 96 19:09:17 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 6 Aug 96 10:13:50 +0800 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 10:06:46 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: kompf@m_post.ife-le.de Cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: Send a messages again In-Reply-To: <199608060132.DAA03023@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Rudolf Kompf wrote: > How can I send a message again (which was sent but not answered). There is > a copy in my default fcc-folder 'sent-mail'. Hummm....two choices come to mind: 1. Use b(ounce) and bounce the copy in the sent-mail folder. The one draw-back to this is bounce only accepts one receipient so if you have several Cc's you have to b(ounce) more than once if you also want to resent to the Cc's. 2. Use f(oward) and forwar the copy from the sent-mail. In this case you may want to edit the Subject: line to remove the (fwd) indication. You may also find yourself editing the body to remove parts added by the forward function. Hope that helps.... Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 19:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21373; Mon, 5 Aug 96 19:23:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17866; Mon, 5 Aug 96 19:21:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17860; Mon, 5 Aug 96 19:21:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unbhf-00038BC; Mon, 5 Aug 96 19:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: George Dimitoglou Subject: Fcc with #MH folders Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 17:31:57 -0400 Message-Id: <3206684D.41C6@achilles.nascom.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------167E2781446B" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------167E2781446B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello folks, I would like to know the trick for setting up a Fcc on Pine; The only problem is that we are using #MH problems..Any thoughts on what to do? Thank you --------------167E2781446B Content-Type: application/x-troff-me Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename=".me" ICAgICAgID09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09CglHZW9yZ2UgRGlt aXRvZ2xvdQoJTkFTQS1Hb2RkYXJkIFNwYWNlIEZsaWdodCBDZW50ZXIKCVNvSE8vQ0RTIE1p c3Npb24KCiAgICAgICAgR2VvcmdlLkRpbWl0b2dsb3VAZ3NmYy5uYXNhLmdvdgoJZ2Vvcmdl QGxpb24ubmFzY29tLm5hc2EuZ292CglnZW9yZ2VkQGFjaGlsbGVzLm5hc2NvbS5uYXNhLmdv dgogICAgICAgPT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT0K --------------167E2781446B-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 20:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22440; Mon, 5 Aug 96 20:44:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05775; Mon, 5 Aug 96 20:42:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from phantom.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05769; Mon, 5 Aug 96 20:42:03 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by phantom.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.07/8.7.3+UW96.07) with SMTP id UAA22393; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 20:41:58 -0700 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 20:41:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Ed Greshko Cc: kompf@m_post.ife-le.de, Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: Send a messages again In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Another choice is to save the msg from the sentmail folder into the postponed-messages folder, then press 'C'... -teg On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Rudolf Kompf wrote: > > > How can I send a message again (which was sent but not answered). There is > > a copy in my default fcc-folder 'sent-mail'. > > Hummm....two choices come to mind: > > 1. Use b(ounce) and bounce the copy in the sent-mail folder. > The one draw-back to this is bounce only accepts one receipient > so if you have several Cc's you have to b(ounce) more than > once if you also want to resent to the Cc's. > > 2. Use f(oward) and forwar the copy from the sent-mail. In this > case you may want to edit the Subject: line to remove the (fwd) > indication. You may also find yourself editing the body to > remove parts added by the forward function. > > Hope that helps.... > > Ed > > ----- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 21:03:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22717; Mon, 5 Aug 96 21:03:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06028; Mon, 5 Aug 96 21:01:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06022; Mon, 5 Aug 96 21:01:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0undHi-00038BC; Mon, 5 Aug 96 20:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "H. Mark Keintz" Subject: IMSP ... is it coming? Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 15:29:33 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone have knowledge of PINE development plans? Specifically, I would like to know whether there are plans to introduce IMSP to pine. I understand IMSP is a standard which will allow a client user, running PC-PINE, say, to access files (addressbook) on the server, much as IMAP permits manipulation of both remote and local folders. thanks, mark Mark Keintz University of Pennsylvania / 6298 Computer Core Director Population Studies Center mark_keintz@pop.upenn.edu 3718 Locust Walk phone: 215/898-6713 fax: 898-2124 Philadelphia, PA 19104-6298 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 21:13:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22786; Mon, 5 Aug 96 21:13:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19547; Mon, 5 Aug 96 21:11:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19541; Mon, 5 Aug 96 21:11:23 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 6 Aug 96 12:15:54 +0800 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 12:08:53 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Terry Gray Cc: kompf@m_post.ife-le.de, Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: Send a messages again In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > Another choice is to save the msg from the sentmail folder into the > postponed-messages folder, then press 'C'... Hummm....sounds like a useful function. Now, if we had a single keystroke to accomplish that..... :-) Ed > -teg > > On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Rudolf Kompf wrote: > > > > > How can I send a message again (which was sent but not answered). There is > > > a copy in my default fcc-folder 'sent-mail'. > > > > Hummm....two choices come to mind: > > > > 1. Use b(ounce) and bounce the copy in the sent-mail folder. > > The one draw-back to this is bounce only accepts one receipient > > so if you have several Cc's you have to b(ounce) more than > > once if you also want to resent to the Cc's. > > > > 2. Use f(oward) and forwar the copy from the sent-mail. In this > > case you may want to edit the Subject: line to remove the (fwd) > > indication. You may also find yourself editing the body to > > remove parts added by the forward function. > > > > Hope that helps.... > > > > Ed > > > > ----- > > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > > > > ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 21:39:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23086; Mon, 5 Aug 96 21:39:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19946; Mon, 5 Aug 96 21:37:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19922; Mon, 5 Aug 96 21:37:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0undoA-00038BC; Mon, 5 Aug 96 21:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: timr@crl.com (Tim Rice) Subject: Re: PC-Pine for MAC Date: 5 Aug 1996 20:48:37 -0700 Message-Id: <4u6fal$mlp@crl3.crl.com> References: <1996Jul31.150454@msuvx1.memphis.edu> chetanvr@cc.memphis.edu wrote: : is there a PC-Pine program for Macintosh operating system? : is there a similar mail program for Macintosh operating system? : please let me know of the ftp site where the program is available. There is Mailstorm in one of the mac directories on ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu : thanks : chetan : e-mail "chetan.ramanna@stjude.org" -- ----- Tim Rice Multitalents 707 887-1469 tim@trr.metro.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 21:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23137; Mon, 5 Aug 96 21:42:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06597; Mon, 5 Aug 96 21:41:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06591; Mon, 5 Aug 96 21:41:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0undsS-00038TC; Mon, 5 Aug 96 21:36 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: timr@crl.com (Tim Rice) Subject: Re: Whats the newest version of pine (3.93??)_ Date: 5 Aug 1996 20:58:58 -0700 Message-Id: <4u6fu2$mqc@crl3.crl.com> References: You can allways find the newest production version at ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine Goldarg (goldarg@azstarnet.com) wrote: : I have pine 3.93 but I need to know what the newest version is so my : provider can get it. : +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ : | Http://www.azstarnet.com/~goldarg | : | Goldarg@azstarnet.com | : | Ask Me how to get my Home Page by Mail if you dont have WWW access or | : | If you have Telnet Access Ask me for a list of web browers available | : | through Telnet Sites,or Email. | : | Cheap Programmers For Hire Here! | : +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- ----- Tim Rice Multitalents 707 887-1469 tim@trr.metro.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 22:13:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23454; Mon, 5 Aug 96 22:13:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20487; Mon, 5 Aug 96 22:11:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20481; Mon, 5 Aug 96 22:11:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uneNr-00038TC; Mon, 5 Aug 96 22:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: message gone! Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 17:57:57 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4u0to1$66v@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4u0to1$66v@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Adam, It is a little difficult to figure out what happened. On 4 Aug 1996, Adam Vardy wrote: > I had a postponed message. Just now I started continuing to write it. > Then I think I pressed Control C. Control C (for cancel) asks for confirmation. Did you confirm that you wanted the message cancelled? Remember, ctrl-O is for postpone. Also, version 3.95 (at least) writes the most recently cancelled message into a file called deal.letter. If you haven't cancelled anything since it whould be there. > If not, I really think Pine ought to be updated so that it would not destroy > messages. I really does make it hard for you to destroy messages, but cancelling, confirming it has to believe you. Even then it gives you a chance. Minden jot, -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 00:04:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24527; Tue, 6 Aug 96 00:04:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08420; Tue, 6 Aug 96 00:01:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08414; Tue, 6 Aug 96 00:01:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ung8b-00038UC; Tue, 6 Aug 96 00:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mingm@u.washington.edu (Ming Ma) Subject: list of headers? Date: Mon, 05 Aug 96 07:16:15 GMT Message-Id: <4u473v$bc0_002@u.washington.edu> I was wondering what all the available headers I could use in an e-mail message are. Anyone know? If there is a compilation of such a list could someone point me to it? Thanks. ______ Ming Ma University of Washington http://weber.u.washington.edu/~mingm From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 00:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24548; Tue, 6 Aug 96 00:07:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08464; Tue, 6 Aug 96 00:03:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hekili.k12.hi.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08456; Tue, 6 Aug 96 00:03:27 -0700 Received: from makani.k12.hi.us by hekili (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA20934; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 21:05:57 -1000 Received: from localhost by makani.k12.hi.us (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA05799; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 21:05:47 -1000 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 21:05:47 -1000 (HST) From: David Langen X-Sender: dlangen@makani To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: printing from the email Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Since the recent changes in Pine, I can't print my email anymore. I don't know if this is coincidence or something to do with the new changes. Also, when I could print, I could only print what I see on the screen, not the whole text. Is there a way to print the whole email message, not just what appears on the screen? If anyone knows about either of my questions, please write me at dlangen@makani.k12.hi.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 00:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24755; Tue, 6 Aug 96 00:26:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22147; Tue, 6 Aug 96 00:21:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22141; Tue, 6 Aug 96 00:21:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ungQ6-00038BC; Tue, 6 Aug 96 00:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: memory leak in pine?? Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 00:03:09 -0700 Message-Id: References: <4tosut$1cr@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Most implementations of malloc() do not give back memory. Pine is giving the space back, but that just causes more free space in the malloc() arena and not reducing the process memory size. This is all due to UNIX's need to be compatible with the days when it ran on a 32K PDP-11... ;-) If you are going to use 20MB folders on a regular basis, I strongly suggest that you look into converting to tenex format. The standard UNIX format requires that a completely in-memory snapshot be made of the entire folder. This is not the case with tenex format, and this results in substantial savings. The disadvantage with tenex format is that most other mail programs don't recognize it. On 5 Aug 1996, ADAM Sulmicki wrote: > > ->> I think it happens after I open an folder of 9'500 messages > -> > ->Just out of curiousity, on a good day how long does it take to open a folder > ->with 9k messages in it? > > :) > > Let see...Trying to open saved-messages.. it took about 1 min and 10 > second, and it had around 10350 messages and load went up aprox to 0.16.. > perhaps I should renice pine to -25 :) > > But I gave up on using pine for anything else than looking inbox folders, > becuse if try open something a bit bigger I get "gifted" w/ something like > this (even if I close the folder pine does not give back what it once took) > > 19917 adam 33 0 26M 12M sleep 0:33 0.04% 0.03% pine > > Cureently I use glimpse to look over my old mail very cool and fast and > pretty useful tool for searching texts of 100mb magnitude. > > Well gotta quit pine to get its memory usage to sane limits.. but you can > try simple experiment, run 'top' at one window , and in other just try > open differnet folders using pine in another window, and you notice that > pine is eating more and more memory when you open consecutive folders, and > is never giving it back. > > -Adam > > 13 vigrid% dir > total 51467 > -rw------- 1 adam 5909301 Aug 5 21:49 archive > drwxr-xr-x 2 adam 512 Aug 5 21:51 inbox.mail/ > -rw------- 1 adam 8899980 Jul 14 02:54 mail.old > -rw------- 1 adam 1282 Aug 5 12:04 postponed-msgs > -rw------- 1 adam 20630710 Aug 5 21:50 saved-messages > -rw------- 1 adam 13244699 Jun 21 11:53 saved-messages.spring.96 > -rw------- 1 adam 3938050 Aug 5 21:40 sent-mail > 14 vigrid% uptime > > 9:53pm up 33 day(s), 22:27, 1 user, load average: 0.14, 0.16, 0.21 > 15 vigrid% > > > > > -Adam > > > > -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 01:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25092; Tue, 6 Aug 96 01:14:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09461; Tue, 6 Aug 96 01:11:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09455; Tue, 6 Aug 96 01:11:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unhDu-00038BC; Tue, 6 Aug 96 01:10 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: IMSP ... is it coming? Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 15:32:09 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: IMSP has been re-designed and renamed ACAP (Application Configuration Access Protocol). We are currently planning to implement ACAP support in Pine 4.x (it probably won't make 4.00 though). |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, H. Mark Keintz wrote: > From: "H. Mark Keintz" > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: IMSP ... is it coming? > Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 15:29:33 -0400 > Organization: University of Pennsylvania > Message-ID: > NNTP-Posting-Host: lexis.pop.upenn.edu > > > Does anyone have knowledge of PINE development plans? > > Specifically, I would like to know whether there are plans to introduce > IMSP to pine. I understand IMSP is a standard which will allow a client > user, running PC-PINE, say, to access files (addressbook) on the server, > much as IMAP permits manipulation of both remote and local folders. > > > thanks, > mark > > > > Mark Keintz University of Pennsylvania / 6298 > Computer Core Director Population Studies Center > mark_keintz@pop.upenn.edu 3718 Locust Walk > phone: 215/898-6713 fax: 898-2124 Philadelphia, PA 19104-6298 > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 03:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26162; Tue, 6 Aug 96 03:02:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10562; Tue, 6 Aug 96 02:51:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10556; Tue, 6 Aug 96 02:51:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unij7-00038BC; Tue, 6 Aug 96 02:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: xzhuang@cdac.com (Xin Huang) Subject: HELP: post newsgroups using pine?? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 23:19:41 GMT i think there is a way to do it. and also i would like to cc to individual parties, sometimes. please help me any help is greatly appreciated thanks xin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 03:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26511; Tue, 6 Aug 96 03:56:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24607; Tue, 6 Aug 96 03:51:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24601; Tue, 6 Aug 96 03:51:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unjfV-00038BC; Tue, 6 Aug 96 03:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Elliot Cole Subject: Turning off Mail Copies Permanently Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 02:31:39 -0400 Message-Id: <3206E6CB.1612@bc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I work in a public lab environment, and so I need to find a way to permanently turn the autosave feature off. Does anyone know of a way of changing the program so that the users will not even have the option for this? Elliot Cole Technical Support Advisor Boston College elliot.cole@bc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 04:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26629; Tue, 6 Aug 96 04:15:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11671; Tue, 6 Aug 96 04:11:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11665; Tue, 6 Aug 96 04:11:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unk1G-00038BC; Tue, 6 Aug 96 04:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: an682942@anon.penet.fi (BILL OVERTON) Message-Id: <050326Z04081996@anon.penet.fi> Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 05:02:04 UTC Subject: NEED A GOOD PPP PACKET DRIVER SUBJECT I am currently using EtherPPP with Minuet. Due to the fact that EtherPPP requires some 126000 bytes of resident memory, this causes Minuet to crash regularly. I cannot use the graphics option of the browser, only text, as using graphics will draw about one half of the first graphics page before it crashes the system. Does anyone know of a good PPP packet driver that works with DOS? No Windows, and no Novell network. For pay OK. I have written a dialer so the procedure could be just a packet driver with no dialing options. PINE Pine will not even load on my graphics monitor system with EtherPPP loaded. I have to use a monochrome system where I can use the "A" bank for system memory, then Pine will run. Zenia Data Systems BBS 915 689 3426 Midland, Texas --****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--***ATTENTION*** Your e-mail reply to this message WILL be *automatically* ANONYMIZED. Please, report inappropriate use to abuse@anon.penet.fi For information (incl. non-anon reply) write to help@anon.penet.fi If you have any problems, address them to admin@anon.penet.fi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 04:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26660; Tue, 6 Aug 96 04:23:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25133; Tue, 6 Aug 96 04:21:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25127; Tue, 6 Aug 96 04:21:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unkCv-00038BC; Tue, 6 Aug 96 04:21 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: boss@new-zealand.italpro.com (Michele Beltrame) Subject: Re: Whats the newest version of pine (3.93??)_ Date: 6 Aug 1996 11:11:34 GMT Message-Id: References: Hi Goldarg! >I have pine 3.93 but I need to know what the newest version is so my >provider can get it. 3.95. Mic. -- ---> Michele Beltrame http://www.italpro.com boss@italpro.com <--- ---> ITALPRO SRL itamark@italpro.com +39-427-71649 <--- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 08:35:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30078; Tue, 6 Aug 96 08:35:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15609; Tue, 6 Aug 96 08:31:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.kitsap.lib.wa.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15603; Tue, 6 Aug 96 08:31:13 -0700 Received: from linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us (linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us [198.187.135.22]) by mail.kitsap.lib.wa.us (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA24498; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 08:32:54 -0700 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 08:30:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Schuyler To: kompf@m_post.ife-le.de Cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: Send a messages again In-Reply-To: <199608060132.DAA03023@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Rudolf Kompf wrote: > How can I send a message again (which was sent but not answered). There is > a copy in my default fcc-folder 'sent-mail'. Easiest way is to open sent-mail and forward the message to the same recipient. You have a chance to edit out all the forward stuff if you want. o o o o o o o . . . _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | Kitsap Regional | | LinkNet Support | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | Library | | 'least we try! | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|____________________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ============================================================================ Support: (360) 405-9131 Fax:(360) 405-9128 support@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us Michael Schuyler: Voice:(360) 405-9139 michael@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 09:24:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31507; Tue, 6 Aug 96 09:24:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17110; Tue, 6 Aug 96 09:15:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.NL.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17104; Tue, 6 Aug 96 09:15:44 -0700 Received: from ciint by ns.NL.net via EUnet id AA08507 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Tue, 6 Aug 1996 18:01:36 +0200 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa29072; 6 Aug 96 17:44 WET Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 16:45:20 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering To: Tim Mooney Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: goto a line number in pico In-Reply-To: <4tumrk$6l2@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 3 Aug 1996, Tim Mooney wrote: > We've already seen one patch posted to this thread that implements the > desired feature. If it rains here this weekend I may come up with my own > patch to add the same feature, but with `Goto-line = ^N' listed as one of > the options right in the ^W menu, so it's no secret to the neophyte users. Just for the record, the patch posted DID have the goto feature mentioned right in the ^W menu. The only "secret" was in the way the goto feature worked, but an explanation of this was added to the context sensitive help (^G). With this, even neophyte users should be able to figure it out. Regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | Let me make one thing perfectly clear: | | CI International B.V. Netherlands | I never explain anything! (Mary Poppins)| +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 10:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00365; Tue, 6 Aug 96 10:30:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19218; Tue, 6 Aug 96 10:27:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19212; Tue, 6 Aug 96 10:27:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unpqa-00038BC; Tue, 6 Aug 96 10:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Faisal Karim Subject: setting up autoresponder Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 16:59:16 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 1. Does anyone knows how to use autorespponder. 2. Does anyone knows how to redirect mail using the from header. Faisal Karim 401, Stasney Street, Texas A&M University College Station, Tx-77840 faisal@ee.tamu.edu (409)846-5943(H) http://ee.tamu.edu/~faisal From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 10:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00839; Tue, 6 Aug 96 10:43:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03128; Tue, 6 Aug 96 10:40:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from elaine27.Stanford.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03122; Tue, 6 Aug 96 10:40:35 -0700 Received: (from dgoodman@localhost) by elaine27.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA12359; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 10:40:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 10:40:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Dee Goodman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: question regarding new messages Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When you get a new message and you're already IN Pine, is there a way to get to that message without quitting and re-entering Pine? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 10:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00990; Tue, 6 Aug 96 10:50:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03317; Tue, 6 Aug 96 10:47:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03303; Tue, 6 Aug 96 10:47:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unqDP-00038BC; Tue, 6 Aug 96 10:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Qingchun Guo Subject: A question about email address Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 12:21:15 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: When I send eamil to someone, my email address appears automatically in the header of my message, such as: From: Qingchun Guo My question: Is there a way to make a different address appear here instead of my real address "guo@bull.gsfc.nasa.gov"? The reason I ask this question: I change my computer very often. Each time I change my computer, my real email address changes. Fortunately, I have a formal email address in my organization: Qingchun.Guo@gsfc.nasa.gov. If my friends send a message to this formal address, my organization will automatically forward it to my real address. So I want all my friends to use my formal address, not my real address. But if my real address appears in the header of my every message, my friends will use my real address instead of my formal address. That's why I want to let my formal address appear in the header of my message, instead of my real address. Is that possible? Thank you for your help. If you write to me, please use my formal address (Qingchun.Guo@gsfc.nasa.gov). Please do not use my real address that appears in the header of this article. Thanks in advance! Qingchun Guo From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 10:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01287; Tue, 6 Aug 96 10:57:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20000; Tue, 6 Aug 96 10:52:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19994; Tue, 6 Aug 96 10:52:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unqG7-00038BC; Tue, 6 Aug 96 10:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: What is Bounce? Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 17:58:28 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4to90t$l8@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4to90t$l8@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> On 31 Jul 1996, Adam Vardy wrote: > Can anyone tell me what on earth Bounce does? Bounce is like Forward, except: that were Forward included the forwarded message in the body of a new message, bounce resends the message itself. Forward will create a brand new set of headers for the message it sends (and include the old headers in the body of message), while bounce will reuse the original headers (including the to and the from), but will send the message to the person you specify. Bounce will add to the headers "Resent-to:" and "Resent-from:" I usually use bounce when someone sends me mail that really should have gone to someone else. That way the real recipient can reply to the message and the reply will go to the original sender. However, when I bounce a message to someone, I let them know (possibly via a separate email message) that I am doing that. I have also used bounce as a lazy way of moving mail from one account to another. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 11:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02490; Tue, 6 Aug 96 11:46:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04960; Tue, 6 Aug 96 11:42:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04954; Tue, 6 Aug 96 11:42:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unr2l-00038BC; Tue, 6 Aug 96 11:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bill Stewart Subject: Re: Procomm & Pine 3.94 on DG/UX Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 07:38:11 -0600 Message-Id: References: <32068282.7BF0@bbs.voy-ager.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32068282.7BF0@bbs.voy-ager.com> On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Bill Gemmel wrote: >I am creating a e-mail and then attaching a WP document with pine >3.94 and a salesman collects his e-mail with Procomm plus 3.00 on >his P.C. In the new Procomm Plus there is a e-mail option in it >now. The problem is that when I detach the attachment, WP says >invalid Document Format. Is anyone using Procomm's e-mail package >with Pine? Perhaps he doesn't have a new enough version of WordPerfect? ----------------------------- Bill Stewart wstewart@unm.edu http://www.unm.edu/~wstewart/ ----------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 11:47:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02543; Tue, 6 Aug 96 11:47:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21534; Tue, 6 Aug 96 11:46:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21528; Tue, 6 Aug 96 11:45:55 -0700 Received: from maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id MAA01109 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 12:46:24 -0600 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.13]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA36888; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 12:45:52 -0600 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 12:45:50 -0600 (MDT) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca To: Dee Goodman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: question regarding new messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Dee Goodman wrote: > When you get a new message and you're already IN Pine, is there a way to > get to that message without quitting and re-entering Pine? Have you tried hitting 'm' for main menu and then 'i' for incoming-message folder? It shouldn't be necessary to quit Pine entirely to get to your new messages... Lea ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) http://www.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/tutor/Tutorials.html http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/Wiz/Wizard ..'But I didn't *mean* to be brave - it just sort of happened when I panicked...'... -Piglet ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 12:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03399; Tue, 6 Aug 96 12:27:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22534; Tue, 6 Aug 96 12:23:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22528; Tue, 6 Aug 96 12:23:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unrgB-00038UC; Tue, 6 Aug 96 12:20 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Patti Johnson Subject: 'Incomplete maildomain "myhost."' SOLVED Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 10:25:09 +0000 Message-Id: <32071D85.5410@wcu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all! This question hasn't been asked in a while - but it was asked this year, at least. I never saw a final "reason," only a fix.... which works. On a late night last week, my weakened brain tripped upon the answer & I thought I'd share it... I was getting the 'Incomplete maildomain "myhost."' error whenever I started Pine 3.9x (3, I think) on my new Solaris 2.5 machine. The same software (Pine) had worked faultlessly for over a year on a similar machine having Sol 2.4. So, what's the difference? Remember, I was tired, but I vaguely remember that the /etc/hosts file is what made the difference. Pine gave the error whenever the machine name preceeded the FQDN on its host line eg: 123.45.678.9 mymachine mymachine.domain.name But when I switch the two, Pine worked fine (without the change to the pine.conf file): 123.45.678.9 mymachine.domain.name mymachine ... seems Pine looks at the hosts file for its info - and only the first entry at that. Since "mymachine" isn't (obviously) a FQDN, it complained. BTW, for those of you moving to Solaris 2.5 from 2.4, I found that my sendmail was handing out configuration errors to all who dared mail my new machine. seems it had found some kind of endless loop & was sending mail to itself - and burped. Turned out a change to my nsswitch.conf file fixed that too. Originally, the hosts line in there had "files dns" When I switch the order to "dns files" sendmail stopped complaining. FWIW, take care pj -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Patti Johnson (pj) | pjohnson@wcu.edu WCU Computer Center | Western Carolina University | "Now, if I had a brain and it wasn't in Cullowhee, N.C. 28723 | my head, where would I keep it?" 704-227-7282 | -Ryan Steele From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 13:05:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04125; Tue, 6 Aug 96 13:05:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07018; Tue, 6 Aug 96 13:03:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07012; Tue, 6 Aug 96 13:03:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unsIt-00038TC; Tue, 6 Aug 96 13:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Edmund Lau Subject: Re: question regarding new messages Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 12:33:14 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 6 Aug 1996, Dee Goodman wrote: > When you get a new message and you're already IN Pine, is there a way to > get to that message without quitting and re-entering Pine? > You could also hit Control L while in Pine. That will force Pine to do a mail check. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 14:43:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06372; Tue, 6 Aug 96 14:43:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09644; Tue, 6 Aug 96 14:38:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09638; Tue, 6 Aug 96 14:38:15 -0700 Received: from localhost (dlm@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.07/8.7.3+UW96.07) with SMTP id OAA05761 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 14:38:13 -0700 X-Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for dlm+postmaster; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 18:00:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by shivams.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.07/8.7.3+UW96.07) with SMTP id SAA15026 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 18:00:23 -0700 X-Received: from paw.montana.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16761; Mon, 5 Aug 96 18:00:22 -0700 X-Received: from freemail ([206.230.43.70]) by paw.montana.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA16649 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 19:03:34 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199608051903463.FreeMail.com> To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scottk Date: Mon 05 Aug 1996 20:40:45 EDT Reply-To: scottk X-Mailer: FreeMail SMTP Gateway v2.0 Rev 6e (W16) X-Webpage: http://www.FreeMail.com Subject: RE: AIX RS6000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 14:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Ta, you've come to the right place! ------------- This mail message is being generated by an evaluation copy of FreeMail. If this software is to be used beyond the 30 day evaluation period or for any commercial purpose a license must be obtained by calling (406) 586-4200. On 8/5/96 you wrote: > I'm having trouble finding a pre-compiled version of PICO > that will run on a RS6000 machine. Does anyone know where > I can get a copy? On 7/5/96 Felipe wrote: > I like to know where I get compiled pine for aix 4.1 running on a rs6000 > > > Felipe (nogueira@dsc.ufpb.br) > ------------ I'd try the AIX Public Domain Software Library (aixpdslib) at UCLA. You can http or ftp there at http://aixpdslib.seas.ucla.edu They've got a wide variety of software; available as source or also pre-compiled binary. ( But if you get it pre-compiled, you miss all the real fun! ) The instructions for compiling the source (at least for 3.2.5) is quite clear, and even for this novice, quite easy. Go for it! kls However, as you'll see in the following message, there is a slight diffence of opinions: ------------- Don't get the stuff from pdslib. Get the 3.2 pre-compiled binaries at the PINE home site. They run fine on our R30 4.x box. The source for 3.94 won't compile on 3.94 (at least not on our site). However, get the 3.94 binaries, as earlier versions had many problems for us (check the archives for my anguished cries...) Greg dhc1.deehoward.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) ------------------- From: FreeMail!owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu To: all@Ken.Scott Subject: AIX RS6000 Written: 09:21 AM on Monday Aug 05, 1996 Received: 08:23 PM on Monday Aug 05, 1996 Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: AIX RS6000 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 09:21:33 GMT --Will. P.S. Reply by email would be nice!! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anything I say or do is nothing whatso ever to do with The Nottingham Trent University. Even if they made me do it. William Cooke - st2coow@doc.ntu.ac.uk - cc062wc01@ntu.ac.uk ------------http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d4f8bu/web-docs/index.html--------------- _______________Headers_______________ Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01415; Mon, 5 Aug 96 08:39:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01409; Mon, 5 Aug 96 08:39:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unRgy-00038BC; Mon, 5 Aug 96 08:35 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Will Cooke Subject: AIX RS6000 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 09:21:33 GMT From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 15:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06905; Tue, 6 Aug 96 15:01:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26785; Tue, 6 Aug 96 14:58:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26779; Tue, 6 Aug 96 14:58:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unu6b-00038BC; Tue, 6 Aug 96 14:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rfunk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Rob Funk) Subject: Re: A question about email address Date: 6 Aug 1996 15:46:25 -0400 Message-Id: <4u87eh$247@ts35-6.homenet.ohio-state.edu> References: In article , Qingchun Guo wrote: >My question: Is there a way to make a different address appear here >instead of my real address "guo@bull.gsfc.nasa.gov"? [...] >If you write to me, please use my formal address >(Qingchun.Guo@gsfc.nasa.gov). Please do not use my real address that >appears in the header of this article. Sounds like a job for the "Reply-to:" header. -- =========== R o b F u n k ===========|===========> funk+@osu.edu <=========== Guildenstern: "So there you are." |rfunk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Rosencrantz: "Stark raving sane." |rfunk@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Tom Stoppard, Ros. & Guil. Are Dead)|http://er4www.eng.ohio-state.edu/~funkr From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 15:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07015; Tue, 6 Aug 96 15:05:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10364; Tue, 6 Aug 96 15:03:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10358; Tue, 6 Aug 96 15:03:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unuDK-00038BC; Tue, 6 Aug 96 15:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hamjavar@unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar) Subject: 3.95 freezes on broken imap ... Date: 6 Aug 1996 12:49:50 -0600 Message-Id: <4u844e$564i@musca.unm.edu> PINE 3.95 AIX 4.1.4 IRIX 5.3 Hello, Our pine 3.95 indicate following issue: pine 3.91 and before: losing imap would only required the user to quit and start another session of pine. User did not lose the connection to client host which (s)he got on via telnet or xterm or whatever ... pine 3.95 : if imap connection to server is broken for whatever reason, my window session (telnet,xterm,etc,etc) is frozen .... Can this be taken care of (i.e compile time flags) or is this a bug ... ? Thanks, hamjavar@unm.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 17:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10101; Tue, 6 Aug 96 17:31:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00800; Tue, 6 Aug 96 17:28:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00790; Tue, 6 Aug 96 17:28:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unwTC-00038BC; Tue, 6 Aug 96 17:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Schleichert Subject: PC-Pine 3.95 -P doesn't work Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 10:19:40 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The -P command line option (global pinerc file location) doesn't work for PC Pine 3.95. Any workarounds available? - Hans Schleichert -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Schleichert Institut fuer Medizinische Psychologie und Verhaltensneurobiologie (Institute of Medical Psychology and Behavioural Neurobiology) Eberhard-Karls-University Gartenstrasse 29 D-72074 Tuebingen, Germany From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 18:24:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10881; Tue, 6 Aug 96 18:24:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01748; Tue, 6 Aug 96 18:22:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from warp.ecn.net.au by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01742; Tue, 6 Aug 96 18:22:12 -0700 Received: from brecom.UUCP by ecn.net.au with UUCP id AA19069 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for cac.washington.edu!pine-info); Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:05:32 +1000 Received: from unixdev by brecom.amh.com.au id aa09594; 7 Aug 96 10:50 est Received: from kevin by unixdev.amh.com.au id aa00711; 7 Aug 96 10:45 est Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:52:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin B Fleming To: Dee Goodman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: question regarding new messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Sender: kevin@unixdev Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Dee Goodman wrote: > When you get a new message and you're already IN Pine, is there a way to > get to that message without quitting and re-entering Pine? When in the INDEX press ^L (CTRL L). This forces pine to check for new mail. ____________________________________________________________ _--_|\ Kevin B Fleming kevin@amh.com.au internal phone: 40225 / AMH Network Administrator phone: +61 7 3810-2225 \_.--._/ Australia Meat Holdings fax: +61 7 3816-0535 v "Standards are great because they give non-conformists something not to conform to" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 19:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12178; Tue, 6 Aug 96 19:35:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16456; Tue, 6 Aug 96 19:33:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16449; Tue, 6 Aug 96 19:33:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0unyPt-00038BC; Tue, 6 Aug 96 19:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shorne@millenium.texas.net (Stephen Horne) Subject: ?? New Messages Date: 6 Aug 1996 23:58:32 GMT Message-Id: <4u8m78$m4e@news2.texas.net> Hello all, A quick question: When I log into my shell account I usually get the "You have new email" message. I run pine and there are the new messages. However, sometimes I sign on and the system just says "You have mail". When I run pine I have new mail that I haven't read. What is going on? Has someone hacked my account? Thanks in advance, Stephen Horne San Antonio, TX From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 22:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13849; Tue, 6 Aug 96 22:13:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18538; Tue, 6 Aug 96 22:09:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ksc8.th.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18532; Tue, 6 Aug 96 22:09:52 -0700 Received: by ksc8.th.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA21077; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 12:10:14 +0700 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 12:10:13 +0700 (TST) From: John Arvid Edkins To: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would very much appreciate some advice on how to Disable the Word Wrap in Pine/Pico. I am using the latest DOS version of Pine. I need to regularly email a very long and single string of characters which I have to insert on the first line in the body of the email message. This long line has one single SPACE - there are no other spaces in the rest of line. Ideally I want to send a long single line string which contains over 2000 characters - however if this is not possible then a string of a few 100 characters would be OK. I have been advised that I can do this by typing "pico -w" at the $ prompt. Then Ctrl/R to merge in my long string. Then save. Then when sending the actual email; Ctrl/R to merge the saved file into the body of the text. However, this does not work as the line breaks at the SPACE and the rest of the long string then drops down onto the second line. I have even tried typing the long string in Pico manually but this does not work either. Just so you know why I need to do this - I am based in Thailand and Email our company newsletter to over 300 customers each day who have subscribed to our list. However, E-Mail from Thailand is very expensive. Therefore, we have set up another email account in another country. This 2nd provider does not charge for email. They have a 'real to' or email forwarding feature. So I can send just ONE email from Thailand to this 2nd provider which contains all 300 Email addresses for forwarding. However, this has some limitations as the 300 addresses have to be sent as described above in a single line string; The actual command line is; Real-Bcc: "email address 1","email address 2", etc etc I hope this rather long winded explanation fully explains my question. If anyone can help please give me step by step instructions as I am very new to Pine. Thanks in anticipation. John Edkins johned@ksc8.th.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 23:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11537; Tue, 6 Aug 96 23:15:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19355; Tue, 6 Aug 96 23:14:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hekili.k12.hi.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19348; Tue, 6 Aug 96 23:14:27 -0700 Received: from makani.k12.hi.us by hekili (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA01088; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 20:16:59 -1000 Received: from localhost by makani.k12.hi.us (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA24997; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 20:16:55 -1000 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 20:16:55 -1000 (HST) From: David Langen X-Sender: dlangen@makani To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: new Pine operations Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I asked for help the other day because I couldn't print off my Pine connections. I can do it now. Is there anyone who can tell me how to print the whole message, not just the screen I'm looking at? Also, somehow all my email is going into a "read only" folder which can't be deleted. What can I do about that? Please advise. Thanks, dlangen@makani.k12.hi.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 23:30:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14509; Tue, 6 Aug 96 23:30:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06960; Tue, 6 Aug 96 23:28:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbma.vsnl.net.in by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06954; Tue, 6 Aug 96 23:28:19 -0700 Received: from localhost by giasbma.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA28128; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 12:00:41 +0530 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 12:00:40 +0530 (IST) From: "VASANI JIGNESH C." X-Sender: jig@giasbma To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Security in Pine.. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi... and HELP!!!!! We need to allow export of files only from the users area( eg. not allow them to do a ^R and mail the /etc/passwd file to themselves :-) ) We have the source for pine 3.95. We are running Linux 1.2.1. We tried using pico as an alternate editor(use-alt-editor-imp9licitly, always-use-alt-editor features). We invoked Pico with the -o option. But we faced the following problem..... While returning to the main screen(from where we actually send the mail) we had to save the file. This file could not be opened for sending and could only be sent as an attachment, which is not the normal procedure. Is there something we are missing out? Or are we going wrong somewhere? We also tried to modify the source.... But we didn't know where exactly to make the changes. Could someone please point out where the changes are to be made? We are extremely rushed for time..... and would really appreciate a quick reply.... Thanx in advance. --Parag Someshwar-- (QuantumLink Communications) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 23:32:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14535; Tue, 6 Aug 96 23:32:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06996; Tue, 6 Aug 96 23:29:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06990; Tue, 6 Aug 96 23:29:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uo26o-00038UC; Tue, 6 Aug 96 23:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Doctor Johassen Subject: VMS Newsreading. Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 00:31:09 -0700 Message-Id: <3208463D.36BE@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm trying to set the nntp server on a VMS installation of pine (on sol.yorku.ca) and it keeps telling me in the folder list that there's no such host. Now I know that this is an active news host because I can use it from other sites on the yorku.ca domain. I also know that Sol can connect to the host because when I try to telnet there, the connection completes before it is refused. Now I know that VMS has some conventions about naming external address, such as prefixing email addresses with in%", etc. Is there some convention like this at work here? Do I need {} brackets around something? do I need to change the collection location? I'm running out of ideas. . . Thanks, Eric -- * * * * * * Doctor Johassen * * * * * * * * * * * johassen@ix.netcom.com * * * * * * * * * * * http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/3292 * * * * * * * * * * * Look for me as HappyPant on IRC, channel #Cheers * * * * * * * * * * * ================================================ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 23:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14712; Tue, 6 Aug 96 23:46:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19829; Tue, 6 Aug 96 23:44:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19817; Tue, 6 Aug 96 23:44:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uo2Jy-00038BC; Tue, 6 Aug 96 23:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gdimitog@polaris.umuc.edu (George Dimitoglou) Subject: Fcc with MH folders Date: 6 Aug 1996 03:53:52 GMT Message-Id: <4u6fkg$o91@nova.umuc.edu> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 23:46:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14723; Tue, 6 Aug 96 23:46:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07264; Tue, 6 Aug 96 23:44:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07258; Tue, 6 Aug 96 23:44:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uo2Le-00038TC; Tue, 6 Aug 96 23:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nevin Kapur Subject: Re: message gone! Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 17:46:09 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4u0to1$66v@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I have faced similar problems (^C instead of ^X). Even if Pine does not store the message, most probably a copy of the editor buffer will be there in your home directory (I am assuming you are using UNIX). If you are using the default - Pico- this file is #pico... something like that. Hope this helps -Nevin -- Nevin Kapur (soon at http://www.cbl.ncsu.edu/~kapur) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 02:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16028; Wed, 7 Aug 96 02:37:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22018; Wed, 7 Aug 96 02:29:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22012; Wed, 7 Aug 96 02:29:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uo4ud-00038BC; Wed, 7 Aug 96 02:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Scott@Op.Net (Scott Peikin) Subject: Tomorrow Date: Wed, 07 Aug 96 09:18:37 GMT Message-Id: <4u9n37$qqm@picasso.op.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Note: Please Copy this file, as its contents, if they ever get out world wide will seriously impact the global economy as we know it. Reducing profit to companies and giving people world wide about 60% more buying power. Governments will try to repress this information. It directly targets the largest companies and profitable organizations and if any of these designs are implemented, those companies are going to be crucified. If you see it get pulled, please repost it to every news group in the world. Over and Over again. And Mail it to all of your friends. The first challenge is to see how powerful the net really is. thanks, Scott@Op.Net Tomorrow.......... V.C.C. Written and developed by Scott Peikin of DiverseNet Inc. Serious contributions to Vcc from K. Table of Contents Aim ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 Background on Interactive Marketing Technologies ---------- 4 Introduction: The Virtual Storefront ------------------------------ 5 What Can the World Wide Web Do for V.C.C. ---------------- 6 The Competition ------------------------------------------------------ 7 Why not a Conventional "Virtual Business" -------------------- 8 Marketing Strategy: How will V.C.C. beat the competition -- 8 The United Consumers Club --------------------------------------- 11 Cost Analysis----------------------------------------------------------- 12 Year 1 Targets-----------------------------------------------------------14 Contact Information----------------------------------------------------16 Aim: To create a "new" business the Virtual Consumers Club or V.C.C. which is a virtual storefront on what is commonly referred to as the information superhighway. It will be supported by the infrastructure of an existing "suitable" company such as U.C.C. V.C.C. will have distinct advantages over competitors. Profit will derive from a membership fee, not on profit margin, which is the way that most other virtual storefronts generate income. Operating costs will be minimal (without the overhead of the traditional storefront), and most important, there will be complete access to the world market without geographic, legal, or political barriers. These features in conjunction with innovative marketing strategies, should allow V.C.C., to quickly overcome its competition and become a world leader in its field. Background on Interactive Marketing Technologies Over the past several years new businesses that involve a small amount of interactive marketing have appeared. Some of the larger names are The Home Shopping Network and QVC (recently purchased by the Home shopping Network). Their primary medium for conducting business is through the use of television infomercials. This has been extraordinarily successful, to the point that the industry is now worth over five billion dollars. While this new interactive medium for conducting business has several serious advantages to traditional storefronts, it still has some drawbacks. One of the drawbacks being uni-directional communication. Customers cannot ask questions, causing them to feel helpless and as a result many "hits" do not "bite". Another drawback is that customers cannot choose what they would like to view, they must observe what is being displayed. This is the primary factor that renders the television medium useless for V.C.C.'s interactive marketing strategy Introduction: The Virtual Storefront The interactive medium described above would do almost nothing for V.C.C. There is, however, a new interactive medium and it is developing at an exponential rate, most importantly it is already available for V.C.C.'s use. It is potentially the most prolific medium for conducting business, and as you might have guessed already dominated by speculators from the Home Shopping Network. The greatest advantage to this medium is that it is bi-directional, making if the perfect medium for V.C.C. to reach the world. The new medium is called the World Wide Web. The World Wide Web makes the traditional storefront obsolete. It is based upon a network of computers that operate around the world all the time and has grown at an exponential rate since its conception three years ago. When lumped together the distinct aspects of the internet are sometimes referred to as the information superhighway. What Can the World Wide Web Do for V.C.C. ? Anyone with a computer can "log in" to the internet for the price of a local phone call anywhere in the world. Once they "log in" the customer merely types an address into a "dialog box" and hits the enter key. This brings the customer to the business interface of the company with which they desire to conduct business. At this point the customer can point and click with their mouse and view different products, actually listen to how they sound, and see how they look in better than photographic quality resolution. Then they can place an order instantaneously with their major credit card. That's it! If they have any questions they can merely click on a "button" with their mouse to start a conversation with a help assistant. The customer can do this any time of day, anywhere in the world, and do it all instantaneously. Setting up a "virtual storefront" costs a fraction of what its conventional counterpart costs, and with this investment comes access to the entire world market. Many internet enthusiasts speculate the conventional storefront and retail store will be all but obsolete in five to ten years. It may take a decade for this to happen because thus far there is no effective marketing strategy that will "open up" the virtual internet business interface sooner. The Competition The largest virtual storefront in existence today is call the Internet Shopping Network. They are owned and operated by the Home Shopping Network. Their Chief Executive Marketing Manager, told me recently that any marketing strategy that would reduce his profit margin would not be feasible because his company operates on minimal margins. I found this "situation" to be true of all the firms that are currently major players in the virtual market. I then decided that I would have to locate a company that possessed a highly developed infrastructure in terms of suppliers. One that offered a wide array of products, and also required minimal modifications to adapt to V.C.C.'s "virtual storefront". I located and researched a few different possibilities. Why Not a Conventional "Virtual Business"? We decided not to go with a conventional virtual business because of the competitive difficulties. Right now the world wide web, which is the platform for running a virtual storefront is developing very quickly. This will lead many companies to "set up shop" and "fight it out" for market share. V.C.C. will sit strategically in a place all its own because of lower product price and novel marketing strategies. Marketing strategy: How will V.C.C. beat the Competition? Running a company that does not make its money on profit margin, opens many new doors in terms of marketing. I have developed three distinct marketing strategies that when implemented will allow to V.C.C. realistically become a major player in the market within three to six months. Furthermore, these marketing strategies will "open up" the cyberspace business interface prematurely, with V.C.C. in the lead. Direct Marketing Strategy We aim to direct market the virtual storefront through the use of diskettes which would be distributed free of charge to the many customers identified as being most interested in using the new sales method. When inserted into the customers computer the program on the diskette will take them on a "Virtual Tour" of V.C.C. Diskettes are an inexpensive form of direct marketing with serious ROI. Look at Prodigy and America on Line. This method of advertising is the only reason that they are still in business. Incentive Based Marketing Strategy We Plan to give incentives such as reduced membership fees to students and faculty at major educational centers throughout the world, as long as those schools agree to position our franchise in their "visit" list. A visit list is a quick access list of sites to visit on the world wide web. Once a site is positioned on a quicklist, even the most inexperienced users can access it. It is important to note that students and educational institutions currently have free and easy access to the World Wide Web. Franchising Marketing Strategy Not everybody has access to a computer today. Our franchising department will target those who cannot afford to purchase or just do not want to be bothered by purchasing and setting up their own computer. Franchises can be set up anywhere because V.C.C will be controlled from a central location. Since V.C.C. franchises will be controlled from a centralized location, the cost of a V.C.C. franchise is much lower than our conventional counterpart (only the price of an internet connection and a computer lab). Therefore V.C.C. franchisees will have an absolute advantage over their potential competitors, V.C.C also benefits from this advantage. The startup cost of a V.C.C. franchise is approximately $30.000, while its conventional counterpart's startup cost ranges from 100,000 to 118,500. This 70 to 88 thousand dollar difference in the cost of a franchise will give V.C.C. another advantage over its competitors. More Compteition U.C.C. is the ideal candidate for V.C.C.'s purposes. U.C.C. is headquartered in Indiana. They are listed in the Million Dollar Directory as a private company, having one subsidiary known as the United Consumers Club Franchising. They have Sec Codes placing them in the mail order catalogue industry. The most interesting thing about the company is the way in which they make their profit. They do not make it on profit margin, but rather on a membership fee. After paying a one time membership fee, members are entitled to purchase all goods at cost for a year. The members can save thousands of dollars per year. The idea is simple: What would have been put into the pockets of the retail stores is instead put back into the pockets of the end consumers. Or as the founder James L. Gagen says "everybody wins" both the consumer, and the company. Eventually, U.C.C. got into the business of franchising. United Consumers Club made approximately 11 million dollars from the franchising corporation compared to 74 million from the parent company. Therefore, the industry is operating at roughly a hundred million dollars. As of yet there are no major competitors in UCC's field. One of the benefits of partnering with U.C.C. is that the merchandise is of high quality and customers get access to a complete line of manufactures goods. U.C.C.'s profit comes only from the membership fee, thus there is no incentive to sell inferior goods unlike Sam's Club which generates income from goods as well as a membership fee. Note: This version of the cost analysis is a little underdeveloped. Cost Analysis World Wide Web Site Setup: ALR Q-4SMP Pentuim based Server--------------------------$Approx 25,000 f Pentium Ported Unix software package------------------------$Approx 5,000 f T-1 1.44 megabyte per second internet connection----------$Approx 1,000v,m Hyper-Text-Markup-Language (HTML) Programmers-----$Approx 80,000 f System Administrator (consultant)-------------------------------$Approx 20,000 f W.W.W. Domain Name Registration----------------------------$100 v,2-years Allowance for unexpected and hidden startup costs----------$100,000 Total Fixed and Variable Startup Costs--------------------------$231,100.00 Direct Marketing Strategy Initial startup kit design----------------------------------------------$25,000 Opportunity Cost on Initial Promotion-----------------------------$5/customer Midwestern CD-ROM duplication estimate 100,000 copies-------$74,300 Allowance for unexpected and hidden costs-----------------------$50,000 Total First-Run Direct Marketing Costs-----------------------------$149,300+5x Incentive Based Marketing Strategy E-mail Promotion Associates-----------------------------------------$40,000 Opportunity Costs-------------------------------------------------------$50/customer Allowance for unexpected and hidden costs-----------------------$20,000 Total Incentive Marketing Strategy Costs---------------------------$60,000+50x Franchising Dept. Marketing Costs Salaries, strategy, and supplies----------------------------------------$300,000 y Year 1 Targets Direct Marketing Strategy 3-6 months: distribute start-up media @ 100.00US per membership. Total Possible Revenue 9,500,000.00 Real Expected Revenue 80% 7,600,000.00 Minus fixed and Variable startup costs 231,100.00 Net Profit 7,368,900.00 After First Pressing and distribution fixed costs are paid. 6-12 months: two subsequent pressings @ 100.00US per membership Total Possible Revenue 19,000,000.00 Real Expected Revenue 80% 15,200,000.00 Minus Variable Costs 80,000.00 Minus Allowance for unexpected/hidden costs 20,000.00 Net Profit on second and third pressings 15,100,000.00 Incentive Based Marketing Strategy 3-12 months: Target and contact educational centers around the world. Hire a full time staff member to do this @ 40,000 per year. Memberships sold at $50.00 each with student faculty discount. Break even point is 1,200 memberships sold in 1 year with 60,000 in costs. Franchise Marketing Strategy 9-12 months: Initiate Franchising Strategy. Contact Information For further information contact Scott Peikin @ Diversenet by: e-mail: scott@op.net speikin@lynx.dac.neu.edu http: www.op.net/~scott Phone: USA (610) 278-9888 So much for the middlemen world wide. Some Other Projects....... Contributions to Mail Services and Company from BD, your a good man BD. Mail Services and Company: Maximizing Case "A" This is an interesting project, Basicly it revolves around Domain Names. For instance if your name is Stan and you are an automobile dealer, then you might want your e-mail address to be stan@automobiledealers.com Cool huh, So if you are the company that owns the rights to automobiledealers.com,then you can offer a service providing e-mail accounts for people in that industry. Also Domain names are the television stations of tomorrow. If you want to watch science fiction, you will probably turn you browser on www.sciencefiction.com, this will take you to the domain science fiction, based around the subject domain sciencefiction. Just as if you want to get todaysnews, you might http todaysnews.com, or if you want to listen to rock music, you might http classicrock, modernrock, or alternative rock based on your music preferences. This company will revolve around leasing domains from the internic based on the subject, then leasing them to people interested. Note: Registering some domains is a good way to start up a "small" business. The Alternic. Minimizing Case "A" Speaking of domians and dns and all of that good stuff. The internic is currently offering dns service for 100 dollars for the first two years and $50 a year after that. To my knowledge they are registering about 10,000 a day. Times $100 a domain that isn't bad. This number is only going to increase. They are only offering dns service on a few extensions, like .com, .net, .org, etc. If you have a few bucks to invest I would recommend starting your own Alternic, offering domains that support special characters and multiple languages. In order for a domain to exist, it only has to have service provided for it. Providing dns is basicly spreading out fixed costs, and the product only exists in cyberspace. So there is a large gap in the cost/profit ratio. Some good ideas to provide dns on are taxicabs . with no extension, and of course multiple languages, to the best of my knowledge we don't live in a one language world. Also the .fam extension might be populair really soon because people will want to throw out their mail boxes. If I were a University trying to raise capitol to minimize educational costs I would go into this business. Students can run it. And after all it is an investment in the future. The Govenrment will not like this, first because it will kill all profit margin for the internic registration services and open them up to a global economy competeing world wide prematuraly in their eyes. They have one major way to prevent this, which can also be prevented. This is to create dns jammers that jam all domains not registered with their "legitimate" registration services. There can only be a one domain of each kind matched up to each ip address world wide. So if they provide jamming services this will jam the "illegitimate" domains right off the network with a flood stream. It is important for people to design web browsers that filter out these jamming services, that will seriously reduce their impact and comprimise their upper case "A" abilities. Currently all domain are matched to an ip address. This actually maximizes profit even more because they charge companies for an ip address eventually this will be you telephone number as well. These ip address go like this 255.255.255.255 why they don't go to 999.999.999.999 is obviously to maximize profit by reducing the supply even more. Anything is possible and 999.999.999.999 ip addresses are definitly a possibility. A company or schoolastic organizatoin merely has to develop software that will support this, and distribute it to then begin providing services on it. Interesting huh???? Another way around this is to make ip addresses alphanumeric to begin with, then that will eliminate the need for ip addresses to begin with. There are some other designs around this concept, let me know if you have millions to blow and want to sink the next biggest ship. my bigger nightmares, I think Phillip Zimmerman might agree............ It is possible to filter all e-mail and information through high speed filters that search for key information, because all data transfers pretty much go through the nick to begin with. The direct system overides the primary level of central control. 10 years from now data security isn't going to be what we think it is today, and if we are living in a placeblo to begin with, we don't have anything now. Taking out telecommunications and Cybercommunications (cybercomm) profit. Everyone has heard of the iphone right. Thats a package that costs about 100 dollars to buy and lets you talk for free all over the world through the net. Being as ip addresses and domain names are the telephone numbers of the future, there is going to be serous amounts of profit by selling these packages. Some of them work through the irc proticol and other proticols. The telephone companys want to make it so that every thing has to be standardized, eliminating a strategy that I have developed that will kill profit for telecommunications world wide. This is to make all packages free to end consumers, and make them compatable with let say for example windows NT plugins that act as the telecommunications server between two of the end consumer client applications. This will kill all profit for AT$T in terms of selling the client applications. It will also limit their ability to make you use their services as the relay server, because you can use a relay server all the way accross the world if you want to. Seriously increasing competition world wide. This is good for us the end consumers. If they still compalain that their stuff isn't compatable, then here you go. All the client apps will be standardized to receive calls. That way you can initiate a call with any server company and still have it completely compatable. This strategy will seriously decrease global communications costs and allow anyone to start a "mom and pop" business providing services. I reccomend educational universities provide these services to offset educational costs. Reducing Software Companies Profit world wide, minimizing software costs to everyone and putting more in the pocket of software designers. This entails souping up an os like Linux to be a shell like windows Nt or 95 or system 7, porting it to every platform and then setting up standards that software developers can conform to to make everything very compatable. Next software developers must form development guilds that are centralized around a co-op development type system. This will allow them to design software around their public domain oses. They can also charge much less to register the software, and becuase they have a serious direct interest in the "company" they will make the money that they are entitled to instead of being "forced" to give it up in the interest of the company they developed it for. NtP You know you computer will be your tv soon. NTP (negeotiation transfer proticol might be the start) If anyone wants to design it let me know. Basicly you client automatically negotiates with the server root domain of a domain. That way if the domain is a ftp site it automatically default to the ftp proticol. And if the site you access by merely typing the domain name in the box is a tv station, then it automatically defaults to the video stream transfer proticol. Cool Huh???? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMgfNnX0gSutdP2LNAQEOBAP/aFg1dg18uQROWjQuX3wmepRkW2Ffm1pm u5zldT/qVX/Q86KkFkQOwICt5VjIhbAuHMqtZbXvmknf3IgpLoPoNJ1EQUORHj/h ZmPT6+AZzs2NRDWOwgahAF2uyY+rTA63yuEHtZninz5DoRtpMYsxIIMjU5w++l8c unsPPSkBdfU= =Z3eG -----END From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 02:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15453; Wed, 7 Aug 96 02:53:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09786; Wed, 7 Aug 96 02:49:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09780; Wed, 7 Aug 96 02:49:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uo5F7-00038BC; Wed, 7 Aug 96 02:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Clock Subject: How to identify the header? Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 17:32:56 +0800 Message-Id: <320862C7.4679@usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am writing a program to access the mail in the folder of mailbox. How to identify the header of each mail in the mailbox? Please reply to me at chris@whph.enlighting.com.tw Thanks Chris From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 03:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16444; Wed, 7 Aug 96 03:28:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22659; Wed, 7 Aug 96 03:24:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22653; Wed, 7 Aug 96 03:24:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uo5lu-00038BC; Wed, 7 Aug 96 03:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Rebuildning .lu all the time Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:21:14 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The first time I compose a message each session (or actually the first time Pine needs to use the global address book), I get a warning that I cannot write in the directory which contains the global address book .lu file, and then there is a substantial wait. Why is pine trying to write in that directory? I believe that the .lu file is up to date. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 03:44:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16545; Wed, 7 Aug 96 03:44:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10427; Wed, 7 Aug 96 03:42:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.germany.eu.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10415; Wed, 7 Aug 96 03:42:44 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59:24/EUnetD-2.5.4.c) via EUnet id MAA20680; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 12:42:36 +0200 Message-Id: <199608071040.MAA29019@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id MAA29019; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 12:40:10 +0200 From: Rudolf Kompf Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:35:55 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: kompf@m_post.ife-le.de To: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Send a message again Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hallo, thanks to all people who wrote me! But ... On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > Another choice is to save the msg from the sentmail folder into the > postponed-messages folder, then press 'C'... ... this works, but a have found that in this case my mail is not saved in my sent-mail folder for outgoing mail. ???? (I'm using 3.92) ???? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 03:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16587; Wed, 7 Aug 96 03:52:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10518; Wed, 7 Aug 96 03:49:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10512; Wed, 7 Aug 96 03:49:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uo678-00038TC; Wed, 7 Aug 96 03:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harle@venus.usna.navy.mil (Mr. Jim Harle {CSERV STAFF}) Subject: Turn off Function keys Date: 6 Aug 1996 21:01:29 GMT Message-Id: <4u8br9$s6a@cadig2.usna.navy.mil> When I do the following in the command line from pine 3.94 or 3.95 pine login@host pine comes up in function key mode. This did not happen in 3.91. Is there something that can be set in pine.conf or command line flag to make this not happen. We have several scripts that get launched this way. This happens with both sunos and solaris versions. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 04:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16333; Wed, 7 Aug 96 04:04:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23098; Wed, 7 Aug 96 04:01:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calisto.ccc.cranfield.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23092; Wed, 7 Aug 96 04:01:07 -0700 Received: from ccjpg.pc.cranfield.ac.uk by calisto with SMTP (PP); Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:54:53 +0100 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 12:01:31 +0100 (BST) From: Jeffrey Goldberg X-Sender: cc047@ccjpg.pc.cranfield.ac.uk Reply-To: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Rebuildning .lu all the time In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: Cranfield University Computer Centre Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Presumably you are mistaken in your belief: hence why Pine is trying to > rebuild the file. (Note that the format used in the .lu file changed > between Pine 3.91 and 3.93, and may have changed again to 3.95 (I don't > know as I have installed the latter yet)). Ah hah! I haven't rebuilt the .lu file after installing 3.95. So that it is. I should have thought of that. Thanks. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 04:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16492; Wed, 7 Aug 96 04:10:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10915; Wed, 7 Aug 96 04:07:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10909; Wed, 7 Aug 96 04:07:28 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:50:14 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id LAA14708; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:51:10 +0100 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:51:10 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Jeffrey Goldberg Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Rebuildning .lu all the time In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Presumably you are mistaken in your belief: hence why Pine is trying to rebuild the file. (Note that the format used in the .lu file changed between Pine 3.91 and 3.93, and may have changed again to 3.95 (I don't know as I have installed the latter yet)). Get the person who looks after the global addressbook to update the .lu file (using the "pine -create_lu" command: its options are described in the man page for Pine). Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > The first time I compose a message each session (or actually the > first time Pine needs to use the global address book), I get > a warning that I cannot write in the directory which contains > the global address book .lu file, and then there is a substantial > wait. > > Why is pine trying to write in that directory? I believe that > the .lu file is up to date. > > -j > > -- > Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 > Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 > J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ > "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 04:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16534; Wed, 7 Aug 96 04:12:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23426; Wed, 7 Aug 96 04:09:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23420; Wed, 7 Aug 96 04:09:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uo6Uo-00038BC; Wed, 7 Aug 96 04:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Schleichert Subject: Re: A question about email address Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:06:05 +0200 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: You could add a customized header "Reply-To:" from main menu/setup/config. If the replying person use the Reply-To: instead of From: address, you will always receive their replies. Have a look at this message's header (press H while viewing the msg) to see an example of a Reply-To: header. - Hans From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 05:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17000; Wed, 7 Aug 96 05:03:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11499; Wed, 7 Aug 96 05:00:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11493; Wed, 7 Aug 96 04:59:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uo7Ct-00038BC; Wed, 7 Aug 96 04:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zach@world.std.com (Zachary H Leber) Subject: Re: Rebuildning .lu all the time Message-Id: References: Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:48:36 GMT I had a similar problem when switching between different versions of Pine. If multiple people access the same addressbooks with different versions, the .lu files will get rewritten. No good solution I found. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 06:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17694; Wed, 7 Aug 96 06:34:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12678; Wed, 7 Aug 96 06:31:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.germany.eu.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12658; Wed, 7 Aug 96 06:30:47 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59:24/EUnetD-2.5.4.c) via EUnet id PAA13705; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 15:30:37 +0200 Message-Id: <199608071328.PAA01523@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id PAA01523; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 15:28:12 +0200 From: Rudolf Kompf Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 15:00:55 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: kompf@m_post.ife-le.de To: J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk Cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: Rebuildning .lu all the time In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > The first time I compose a message each session (or actually the > first time Pine needs to use the global address book), I get > a warning that I cannot write in the directory which contains > the global address book .lu file, and then there is a substantial > wait. > > Why is pine trying to write in that directory? I believe that > the .lu file is up to date. > > -j > > -- > Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 > Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 > J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ > "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) > > > After weeks ago I got this effect, but MY .lu was NOT ok. I remember (?) that I found the actual .lu file built by pine in the /tmp directory. After copying onto the normal .lu file: All ok. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 07:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18152; Wed, 7 Aug 96 07:20:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25710; Wed, 7 Aug 96 07:14:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25704; Wed, 7 Aug 96 07:14:03 -0700 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA01774 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 16:13:16 +0200 Received: from itsrm1 (itsrm1 [149.202.148.210]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA24690; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 18:11:48 +0400 (MDT) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 18:11:47 +0400 (MOW) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsrm1 Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Pine mailing list , Pine Developers Subject: Selecting "NEW" newsgroups always selects all in Pine 3.95 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! The problem seems to appear in Pine 3.95 (probably, it is I first noted it there ;) If I try to select new newsgroups using ;SN, I always get *all* available newsgroups selected, irrespectively of the status shown. The TAB works corectly and jumps to the next article, marked as NEW. Is it known problem? greetings ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 08:17:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19441; Wed, 7 Aug 96 08:17:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26848; Wed, 7 Aug 96 08:12:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26842; Wed, 7 Aug 96 08:12:41 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 7 Aug 1996 16:10:24 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id QAA27243; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 16:12:28 +0100 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 16:12:28 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Zachary H Leber Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Rebuildning .lu all the time In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There is a solution, providing that when you build a particular version of Pine you modify the string which contains the name of the global configuration files. These are usually "pine.conf" and "pine.conf.fixed". However I modify these strings to include the version number of Pine: for example "pine.conf-3.91" and "pine.conf.fixed-3.91". This then allows you to have different configuration files for each version of the Pine binary you have in use on your system: quite useful as newer releases often have new features (which admittedly the old version would probably just ignore) which you want to test out before inflicting (sorry! RELEASING) them on your users. You can then modify the systemwide global addressbooks listed in each configuration file so that the different versions of Pine access separate global addressbook files (and hence their associated lookup files). A cunning trick is to use UNIX's "ln" command to link the address book files themselves together so that it is only one file, but accessed through two or more names. This eases keeping the data in step, and you then just have to remember to recreate the associated .lu file for each name by which the data file is known. Of course this only helps with global address books specified in the systemwide configuration file(s); it doesn't help people who have them listed explicitly in their personal (.pinerc) preference files. However the thought may be of use to some... Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Zachary H Leber wrote: > I had a similar problem when switching between different versions of Pine. > If multiple people access the same addressbooks with different versions, > the .lu files will get rewritten. No good solution I found. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 08:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20792; Wed, 7 Aug 96 08:59:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15638; Wed, 7 Aug 96 08:55:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc1.nerc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15632; Wed, 7 Aug 96 08:55:10 -0700 Received: from nerc.com (ppp9.nerc.com [205.247.120.209]) by nerc1.nerc.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA09158; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:55:02 -0400 Received: from localhost (charisma [127.0.0.1]) by nerc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA13585; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:54:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" X-Sender: luomat@charisma Reply-To: luomat@nerc.com To: Andrej Borsenkow Cc: Pine mailing list Subject: Re: Selecting "NEW" newsgroups always selects all in Pine 3.95 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > Hi! > > The problem seems to appear in Pine 3.95 (probably, it is I first noted it > there ;) > > If I try to select new newsgroups using ;SN, I always get *all* available > newsgroups selected, irrespectively of the status shown. Where are you trying to do this? When I do to my newsgroup listing (L from the Main Menu and then down to the newsgroups) and enter ";" I get [Command ";" not defined for this screen. Use ? for help] Same for 's' and 'n' I've got the enable-aggregate-commands set turned ON (and works inside folders). What's the option to turn this on? Thanks TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22743; Wed, 7 Aug 96 10:12:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00599; Wed, 7 Aug 96 10:10:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00589; Wed, 7 Aug 96 10:10:08 -0700 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA11229 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 19:09:18 +0200 Received: from itsrm1 (itsrm1 [149.202.148.210]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA25220; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 21:08:56 +0400 (MDT) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 21:08:54 +0400 (MOW) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsrm1 Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Pine mailing list Cc: "Timothy J. Luoma" Subject: Re: Selecting "NEW" newsgroups always selects all in Pine 3.95 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > > > If I try to select new newsgroups using ;SN, I always get *all* available ^^^^^^^^^^ I did actually mean *articles*; sorry > > newsgroups selected, irrespectively of the status shown. > > Where are you trying to do this? When I do to my newsgroup listing (L > from the Main Menu and then down to the newsgroups) and enter ";" I > get > [Command ";" not defined for this screen. Use ? for help] > Same for 's' and 'n' > > I've got the enable-aggregate-commands set turned ON (and works inside > folders). What's the option to turn this on? > I am doing it when I am already in newsgroup. It looks, like you are trying to do it when selecting newsgroup. Oh, sorry, just noticed. Of course, it should be *articles*, not *newsgroups*. I just used wrong word :< Thanks for pointing it out. but the problem is still there. greetings ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:16:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22779; Wed, 7 Aug 96 10:16:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00562; Wed, 7 Aug 96 10:08:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00556; Wed, 7 Aug 96 10:08:13 -0700 Received: from localhost (skramer@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.07/8.7.3+UW96.07) with SMTP id KAA29409 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:08:12 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:08:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Kramer Reply-To: Stefan Kramer To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Discussion Archives In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: "University of Washington, Computing and Communications" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mike, Your suggestion of adding to the part of to the saved archive search results page is indeed an elegant solution. Generating the "BASE" line directly in the output page is, unfortunately, not quite practical, since the HTMLized archives are actually generated on another server (i.e., with another base URL than "http://www.cac.washington.edu") here at the UW before they are copied to the "public" server nightly and where they are "tested". However, the search results page now shows the date and time the search was conducted, so when saved to a local file, it will be evident how up-to-date those results are. ------------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu University of Washington Computing & Communications ------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 29 Jul 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: # On Fri, 26 Jul 1996, Stefan Kramer wrote: # # > After you have concluded your search of the subject or full-text index at # > http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ # > you could save the results page to a local HTML file. Since the hyperlinks # > therein will be relative (i.e., "assume" they are on the server # > http://www.cac.washington.edu/), you should then load the HTML file into a # > text editor that has that capability and search-and-replace all occurrences # > of # > # > # > You then have your own customized message index that will point back to the # > HTMLized messages you selected in your query, on our server. (The URLs for # > the individual messages are expected to remain stable, though we can't # > guarantee that. ;-) # # A simpler solution is to edit the downloaded file and, in the # ... section add the one line: # # # # where URL is the full URL of the document that you saved to an HTML file # (eg, http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/) # # The magical thing about "BASE" is that the URL specified will be used as # the base against which relative links are resolved (instead of the URL of # the current document which, after saving to a local disk file, would be # inappropriate). # Perhaps the Keeper Of The Pine Archives could consider adding/generating a # suitable "BASE" line directly? This would then allow people to save the # results page to local disk and use it without the need for any editing. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:48:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23626; Wed, 7 Aug 96 10:48:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01726; Wed, 7 Aug 96 10:45:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01714; Wed, 7 Aug 96 10:45:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uoCca-00038BC; Wed, 7 Aug 96 10:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Rebuildning .lu all the time Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 17:55:44 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 7 Aug 1996, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > Ah hah! I haven't rebuilt the .lu file after installing 3.95. So > that it is. I should have thought of that. Thanks. Um. It still doesn't work. Is there some tool I can use to check the consistance of a .lu file? -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24251; Wed, 7 Aug 96 11:28:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20349; Wed, 7 Aug 96 11:25:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20343; Wed, 7 Aug 96 11:25:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uoDFy-00038BC; Wed, 7 Aug 96 11:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: memory leak in pine?? Date: 7 Aug 1996 11:45:31 -0500 Message-Id: <4uah7b$vs0@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: <4tosut$1cr@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article , Mark Crispin wrote: > Most implementations of malloc() do not give back memory. Pine is giving > the space back, but that just causes more free space in the malloc() arena > and not reducing the process memory size. This is all due to UNIX's need > to be compatible with the days when it ran on a 32K PDP-11... ;-) True, but that's not to say that a program can't give back memory to the OS, really. The old way was with sbrk(); the new way appears to be with mmap() and munmap(). I haven't looked at the code, but it's possible in theory ( :-) ) to make pine act more responsibly with regard to memory use. Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24533; Wed, 7 Aug 96 11:29:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03101; Wed, 7 Aug 96 11:25:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03095; Wed, 7 Aug 96 11:25:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uoDGP-00038TC; Wed, 7 Aug 96 11:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: Locked folders Date: 7 Aug 1996 11:51:02 -0500 Message-Id: <4uahhm$sp1@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: <9608051600.AA29799@athena.capital.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <9608051600.AA29799@athena.capital.edu>, Tom Tappan wrote: > > We are running Pine 3.90 on a Linux system. Ithas been used as a dedicated mail > server without problem. > > This past weekend we installed an NCSA Web Server unto the system. The home > page offers the possibility of e-mail to our school. This morning we find > that none of our users can open Pine folders in anything except read-only > mode. Also the old UNIX mail program will not write the outgoing files > to the /tmp directory. As near as I can tell the permissions look normal. Find one of the folders that's displaying the `read-only' problem, and peek through the folder with a program (less, od -c) that will let you view out of band characters. See if there are out-of-band characters in the headers, especially immediately preceding the `From '. If there are out-of-band characters in the headers, delete them with an editor that can handle them, and then try reading the mail with pine and see if it fixes the problem. Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 12:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25552; Wed, 7 Aug 96 12:07:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04306; Wed, 7 Aug 96 12:03:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc1.nerc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04299; Wed, 7 Aug 96 12:03:38 -0700 Received: from nerc.com (ppp5.nerc.com [205.247.120.205]) by nerc1.nerc.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA00204; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 15:03:25 -0400 Received: from localhost (charisma [127.0.0.1]) by nerc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA02784; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 15:02:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 15:02:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" X-Sender: luomat@charisma Reply-To: luomat@nerc.com To: Andrej Borsenkow Cc: Pine mailing list , Pine Developers Subject: Re: Selecting "NEW" newsgroups always selects all in Pine 3.95 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > Hi! > > The problem seems to appear in Pine 3.95 (probably, it is I first noted it > there ;) > > If I try to select new newsgroups using ;SN, I always get *all* available > newsgroups selected, irrespectively of the status shown. Now that we know we are talking about "articles", and not "newsgroups"..... I tried this with 3.95 and it worked just fine. 2 questions: 1) Do the articles have ANY mark next to them (important/answered/etc) when you try to select them based on being "NEW"? 2) what's your OS information & etc? I'm using 3.95 on NeXTStep 3.2 (m68k) TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 12:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25572; Wed, 7 Aug 96 12:08:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21608; Wed, 7 Aug 96 12:05:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21602; Wed, 7 Aug 96 12:05:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uoDt1-00038BC; Wed, 7 Aug 96 12:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Killfiles Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 11:27:07 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, stormkloud wrote: > Hi all, I would like to know how to do "killfiles" on a newsgroup in > PCpine. Pine does not implement killfiles for either news or mail, unfortunately. I have no information for you for PCPine. For Pine under Un*x, procmail or filter can handle mail killing, and I just learned a method for batch-mode-type news killing if your system also has trn (preferably a fairly recent version). The lack of killfiles seems to be one thing in particular that causes uses of other newsreaders to think of Pine as "not a _real_ newsreader." Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 12:09:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25563; Wed, 7 Aug 96 12:09:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04467; Wed, 7 Aug 96 12:06:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc1.nerc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04455; Wed, 7 Aug 96 12:06:39 -0700 Received: from nerc.com (ppp5.nerc.com [205.247.120.205]) by nerc1.nerc.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA00326; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 15:06:25 -0400 Received: from localhost (charisma [127.0.0.1]) by nerc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA02927; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 15:05:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 15:05:54 -0400 (EDT) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" X-Sender: luomat@charisma Reply-To: luomat@nerc.com To: Andrej Borsenkow Cc: Pine mailing list , Pine Developers Subject: Re: Selecting "NEW" newsgroups always selects all in Pine 3.95 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sorry, sent that last one off before I finished saying: "I'm running 3.95 on NeXTStep 3.2 m68k and Linux and it works fine here" TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 13:45:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27301; Wed, 7 Aug 96 13:45:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24098; Wed, 7 Aug 96 13:42:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from parker.inter.net.il by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24082; Wed, 7 Aug 96 13:42:00 -0700 Received: from kelly56.access.net.il by inter.net.il with SMTP id AA21770 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 7 Aug 1996 23:41:45 +0400 Message-Id: <32098B9A.114F@inter.net.il> Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 23:39:22 -0700 From: "adil@" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: MORBID ANGEL X-Url: http://www.cac.washington.edu:1180/pine/pine-info/95.02/msg00447.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HI! DO U LIKE MORBID ANGEL?!?!?!-I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE... I LOVE THEM. AND THEIR NEW ALBUM IS VERY GOOD! PLEASE WRITE TO ME-adil@inter.net.il From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 17:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32592; Wed, 7 Aug 96 17:41:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00956; Wed, 7 Aug 96 17:35:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.kitsap.lib.wa.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00950; Wed, 7 Aug 96 17:35:53 -0700 Received: from linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us (linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us [198.187.135.22]) by mail.kitsap.lib.wa.us (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA12507; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 17:38:43 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 17:35:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Schuyler To: Tim Mooney Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Locked folders In-Reply-To: <4uahhm$sp1@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 7 Aug 1996, Tim Mooney wrote: > > that none of our users can open Pine folders in anything except read-only > > mode. Also the old UNIX mail program will not write the outgoing files > > to the /tmp directory. As near as I can tell the permissions look normal. > > Find one of the folders that's displaying the `read-only' problem, and peek > through the folder with a program (less, od -c) that will let you view out > of band characters. See if there are out-of-band characters in the headers, > especially immediately preceding the `From '. We've been experiencing the same sort of thing since we implemented 3.95, but I'm not convinced this problem is coming from Pine at al. However, consistently, there is an extra "F" in front of the "From" of the first message in the inbox. Taking it out with an editor fixes the problem. But why is it happening in the first place? beats me. o o o o o o o . . . _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | Kitsap Regional | | LinkNet Support | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | Library | | 'least we try! | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|____________________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ============================================================================ Support: (360) 405-9131 Fax:(360) 405-9128 support@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us Michael Schuyler: Voice:(360) 405-9139 michael@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 19:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01068; Wed, 7 Aug 96 19:44:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15591; Wed, 7 Aug 96 19:42:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from yarra.vicnet.net.au by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15573; Wed, 7 Aug 96 19:41:54 -0700 Received: from rvib2.rvib.org.au (rvib2.rvib.org.au [203.3.138.1]) by yarra.vicnet.net.au (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id MAA07376; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 12:40:58 +1000 Received: from rvib2.rvib.org.au by rvib2.rvib.org.au id aa11587; 8 Aug 96 12:41 AEST Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 12:41:05 +1000 (AEST) From: Les Wallis Reply-To: Les Wallis To: Zachary H Leber Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Rebuildning .lu all the time In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can you not solve this by starting pine with the -P option to point to differing pine.conf files? These files could contain reference to differing addressbooks, each one accessed by groups of people using the same versions of PINE? On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Zachary H Leber wrote: > I had a similar problem when switching between different versions of Pine. > If multiple people access the same addressbooks with different versions, > the .lu files will get rewritten. No good solution I found. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 19:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01099; Wed, 7 Aug 96 19:44:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15585; Wed, 7 Aug 96 19:42:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15579; Wed, 7 Aug 96 19:42:03 -0700 Received: (from mooney@localhost) by dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA24773; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 21:41:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Mooney Message-Id: <199608080241.VAA24773@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> Subject: Re: Locked folders To: michael@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us (Michael Schuyler) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 21:41:26 -0500 (CDT) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Michael Schuyler" at Aug 7, 96 05:35:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When we last communicated, Michael Schuyler wrote: )On 7 Aug 1996, Tim Mooney wrote: ) )> > that none of our users can open Pine folders in anything except read-only )> > mode. Also the old UNIX mail program will not write the outgoing files )> > to the /tmp directory. As near as I can tell the permissions look normal. )> )> Find one of the folders that's displaying the `read-only' problem, and peek )> through the folder with a program (less, od -c) that will let you view out )> of band characters. See if there are out-of-band characters in the headers, )> especially immediately preceding the `From '. ) )We've been experiencing the same sort of thing since we implemented 3.95, )but I'm not convinced this problem is coming from Pine at al. However, )consistently, there is an extra "F" in front of the "From" of the first )message in the inbox. Taking it out with an editor fixes the problem. But )why is it happening in the first place? beats me. Actually, we haven't gone to 3.95 on our general purpose hosts (they're still using 3.91), and we've only seen this problem on our Digital Unix hosts. I sent some email to the osf-managers mailing list a couple months ago and got lots of responses that other people were seeing the same thing. Many people suspected problems with the POP daemon a lot of us use (qualcomm's popper), but I've been able to verify that a lot of the people that get the junk in the headers are *not* POP mail users. With Digital Unix, it appears the problem may be in /bin/mail, the local delivery agent. I've not been able to completely verify this, but many of us have narrowed the list of possibilities to just that. I have no idea what would be causing the problem on other systems, but it could be something similar. Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 19:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01161; Wed, 7 Aug 96 19:53:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15754; Wed, 7 Aug 96 19:51:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15748; Wed, 7 Aug 96 19:51:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uoLC2-00038BC; Wed, 7 Aug 96 19:51 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine reports SMTP failure for NNTP failure Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 19:33:25 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: This is because the same routines are used for both SMTP and NNTP in that version of Pine, and at the level that it issues that error message it doesn't know whether it is SMTP or NNTP. This will change in Pine 4.0. On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > Yesterday, when my nntp connection crashed at the server end, pine > reported a warning of something like: > > 421 SMTP connection connection went away! > > At the time, I did not have an SMTP connection open. > > Here are a few lines from .pine-debug > > ---- FOLDER SCREEN ---- > About to open folder "sci.lang" inbox: "INBOX" > Close - saved inbox state: max 70 > IMAP 12:20:38 8/6 mm_log ERROR: 421 SMTP connection went away! > About to open folder "sci.lang" inbox: "INBOX" > Close - saved inbox state: max 70 > IMAP 12:21:31 8/6 mm_log ERROR: 421 SMTP connection went away! > > > I do know that our news server had keeled over before then (there > is in the newsserver logs after 11:50 that day) > > -j > -- > Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 > Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 > J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ > "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) > > > -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 23:45:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03382; Wed, 7 Aug 96 23:45:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06058; Wed, 7 Aug 96 23:42:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06050; Wed, 7 Aug 96 23:42:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uoOjv-00038BC; Wed, 7 Aug 96 23:38 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dlegate@rsa.csuhayward.edu (Dan LeGate) Subject: sendmail Failure HELP!!! "ioctl system call"??? Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 03:39:42 GMT Message-Id: <4uc1q1$q8t@nuke.csu.net> I'm having trouble sending only certain people mail. It's strange. I can send mail about 95% of the time just fine. But there are a few domains that seem to cause a problem: like prodigy.com and juno.com. Anyway, what happens is when I send the message, IMMEDIATELY (not in a second or two, but right away), MY system gives me a MAILER-DAEMON. This makes me believe it's not the receiving host, but something wrong with my system's configuration? Does that sound right? Here's what I get back in the MAILER-DAEMON message: Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 23:08:09 -0700 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown --- The transcript of the session follows --- 421 juno.com.tcp... Deferred: A specified file does not support the ioctl system call. 550 "John C. Doe" ... Host unknown: A specified file does not support the ioctl system call. --- The unsent message follows --- I'm on an AIX 3.2.5 machine. Is there anything I can do to "fix" this problem on my end? Any help or information is greatly appreciated. Dan PS - if replying publicly, can you also CC a copy to my email address? And vice versa: if replying privately, please CC a copy publicly so all can benefit from your responses. Thanks! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 02:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04402; Thu, 8 Aug 96 02:30:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20854; Thu, 8 Aug 96 02:28:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20848; Thu, 8 Aug 96 02:28:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uoRMy-00038BC; Thu, 8 Aug 96 02:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@news2.epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: question regarding new messages Date: 8 Aug 1996 04:17:15 GMT Message-Id: <4ubpob$k8p@star.epix.net> References: Dee Goodman (dgoodman@leland.Stanford.EDU) wrote: : When you get a new message and you're already IN Pine, is there a way to : get to that message without quitting and re-entering Pine? Well, you could look in your INBOX folder ! Only a thought. BYE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 03:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04052; Thu, 8 Aug 96 03:53:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09013; Thu, 8 Aug 96 03:47:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09007; Thu, 8 Aug 96 03:47:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uoSZO-00038BC; Thu, 8 Aug 96 03:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stormkloud Subject: Killfiles Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 21:37:09 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hi all, I would like to know how to do "killfiles" on a newsgroup in PCpine. Thanks in advance for advice......sigh ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Listen to them, the Children of the Night, What sweet music they make........" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Stormy "In the Company of Wolves" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 05:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05711; Thu, 8 Aug 96 05:11:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22886; Thu, 8 Aug 96 05:06:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22880; Thu, 8 Aug 96 05:06:20 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 8 Aug 1996 13:04:05 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id NAA22401; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 13:06:08 +0100 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 13:06:08 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: stormkloud Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Killfiles In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You can't. This question has been asked and answered many times in this newsgroup/mailing list over the past couple of weeks. The answer is still "Pine 3.95 does not support kill files for e-mail or news". (Now shall we see how long it is before someone else asks again? :-) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, stormkloud wrote: > > Hi all, I would like to know how to do "killfiles" on a newsgroup in > PCpine. > > Thanks in advance for advice......sigh > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "Listen to them, the Children of the Night, > What sweet music they make........" > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Stormy "In the Company of Wolves" > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 05:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05417; Thu, 8 Aug 96 05:18:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22967; Thu, 8 Aug 96 05:12:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22955; Thu, 8 Aug 96 05:11:51 -0700 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA20643 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 12:37:23 +0200 Received: from itsrm1 (itsrm1 [149.202.148.210]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA00216; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 14:37:00 +0400 (MDT) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 14:36:58 +0400 (MOW) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsrm1 Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Pine mailing list Cc: "Timothy J. Luoma" , Pine Developers Subject: Re: Selecting "NEW" newsgroups always selects all in Pine 3.95 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > I tried this with 3.95 and it worked just fine. > > 2 questions: > > 1) Do the articles have ANY mark next to them (important/answered/etc) > when you try to select them based on being "NEW"? > Yes, articles are marked N for "NEW" ;) Do you have 'news-approximates-news-status' set? I done simple test (it assumes news-approximates-news-status is set): remove (or better move) your .newsrc; open some newsgroup; all articles should be shown as "NEW"; delete some article in the middle; quit and restart pine; enter the same newsgroup again; now the articles older than deleted one won't be marked as "NEW" make ;SN - it sets X ("SELECTED") mark on *all* articles, even the "OLD" ones. > 2) what's your OS information & etc? > Well, I am using Pine 3.95 on SINIX-N and SINIX-L; it is SVR4 based system; I compiled Pine using ./build sv4 without any changes (sorry; I changed default folder format to tenex and rsh name - I wonder, where resh comes from). On one system I used gcc 2.7.2, on other native compiler. Both behave the same way. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 05:54:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06057; Thu, 8 Aug 96 05:54:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23419; Thu, 8 Aug 96 05:47:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23413; Thu, 8 Aug 96 05:47:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uoUQp-00038BC; Thu, 8 Aug 96 05:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Schleichert Subject: PC-Pine: set mark in pico Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 13:01:27 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The Ctrl-^ command in pico doesn't work when you are using a German keyboard. ESC ESC ^ doesn't work either, probably due to a bug in pico. However, you can use Ctrl-6 to set and unset a mark. - Hans Schleichert, Tuebingen University From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 06:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06079; Thu, 8 Aug 96 06:02:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10801; Thu, 8 Aug 96 05:52:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10794; Thu, 8 Aug 96 05:52:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uoUY1-00038BC; Thu, 8 Aug 96 05:50 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mihai T. LAZARESCU" Subject: Re: Addressbook.lu file Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 13:51:32 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4u5h0r$bii@arl-news-svc-4.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4u5h0r$bii@arl-news-svc-4.compuserve.com> On 5 Aug 1996 hamlet@panix.com wrote: > Addressbook is fairly straightforward file however I am not sure > what the .addressbook.lu file does? Maybe `.lu' stands for `lookup'. I think it's used just to speed up searching in the .addressbook. Mihai L. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 06:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06143; Thu, 8 Aug 96 06:04:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23486; Thu, 8 Aug 96 05:52:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23480; Thu, 8 Aug 96 05:52:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uoUYI-00038TC; Thu, 8 Aug 96 05:51 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schneider@hik.fzk.de (Walter Schneider) Subject: INBOX-PATH with VMS-PINE Date: 6 Aug 1996 14:38:08 GMT Message-Id: <4u7lcg$tf@hdihp3.fzk.de> We are working with PINE 3.91 on our UNIX-workstations and therefore we have an IMAP-Mailserver, who is holding the mailboxes for the Users. The Users can access their mailboxes via INBOX-PATH={mailserv}. Now we are trying the same mechanism from VMS-workstations; there we have implemented PINE 3.89; this works fine, when the mailbox is located local; when we define INBOX-PATH={mailserv} (to reach the remote mailbox), we get no connection from the VMS-Station to the mailserver. Any ideas ?? with friendly regards Walter Schneider -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Walter Schneider | Tel : (49) 07247/82-5638 Forschungszentrum Karlsruhe | Fax : (49) 07247/82-4972 HIK, 441 | Email : Walter.Schneider@hik.fzk.de Postfach 3640 | 76021 Karlsruhe | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 08:22:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08205; Thu, 8 Aug 96 08:22:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13171; Thu, 8 Aug 96 08:18:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13165; Thu, 8 Aug 96 08:17:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uoWnt-00038BC; Thu, 8 Aug 96 08:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cmorrone@gilb5.gilb.udel.edu (Christopher Morrone) Subject: Re: Security in Pine.. Date: 8 Aug 1996 05:21:51 GMT Message-Id: <4ubthf$9qb@gnews2.voicenet.com> References: VASANI JIGNESH C. (jig@giasbma.vsnl.net.in) wrote: : We tried using pico as an alternate editor(use-alt-editor-imp9licitly, : always-use-alt-editor features). We invoked Pico with the -o option. : But we faced the following problem..... : While returning to the main screen(from where we actually send the : mail) we had to save the file. This file could not be opened for sending : and could only be sent as an attachment, which is not the normal : procedure. : Is there something we are missing out? Or are we going wrong somewhere? Ummm...try the man page...I don't see a "-o" option mentioned in there. Try -t: -t Enable "tool" mode. Intended for when pico is used as the editor within other tools (e.g., Elm, Pnews). Pico will not prompt for save on exit, and will not rename the buffer during the "Write Out" command. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 08:32:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09003; Thu, 8 Aug 96 08:32:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26077; Thu, 8 Aug 96 08:28:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26071; Thu, 8 Aug 96 08:27:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uoWzE-00038TC; Thu, 8 Aug 96 08:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbdavis@osbm9.osbm.state.nc.us (John Davis) Subject: Passwords Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 01:33:19 GMT Is there no way to get the Unix versions of Pine to remember login ID and passwords combinations for IMAP servers like PC-Pine does? In PC-Pine you create a passwd.pwd file, surely there is something similar for the Unix versions. =========================================================== John Davis jbdavis@osbm9.osbm.state.nc.us/jbdavis@pobox.com http://www.webbuild.com/~jbdavis/ =========================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 09:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10520; Thu, 8 Aug 96 09:30:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28040; Thu, 8 Aug 96 09:26:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28024; Thu, 8 Aug 96 09:26:52 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 8 Aug 1996 17:24:30 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id RAA03128; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 17:26:07 +0100 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 17:26:06 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: John Davis Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Passwords In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Instructions for setting up a pre-authenticated IMAP connection can be found in the archives of the Pine-Info/comp.mail.pine mailing-list/newsgroup. This can be found (and searched) on the World-Wide Web at: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ (This is just part of the Pine Information Centre, which is at: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ ) Your particular query is answered in the page whose URL is: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/96.06/msg00257.html Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, John Davis wrote: > > Is there no way to get the Unix versions of Pine to remember login ID and > passwords combinations for IMAP servers like PC-Pine does? In PC-Pine you > create a passwd.pwd file, surely there is something similar for the Unix > versions. > > =========================================================== > John Davis jbdavis@osbm9.osbm.state.nc.us/jbdavis@pobox.com > http://www.webbuild.com/~jbdavis/ > =========================================================== > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 09:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10870; Thu, 8 Aug 96 09:36:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15713; Thu, 8 Aug 96 09:33:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15707; Thu, 8 Aug 96 09:33:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uoXwm-00038TC; Thu, 8 Aug 96 09:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Goldarg Subject: Whats the newest version of pine (3.93??)_ Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 13:43:48 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have pine 3.93 but I need to know what the newest version is so my provider can get it. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Http://www.azstarnet.com/~goldarg | | Goldarg@azstarnet.com | | Ask Me how to get my Home Page by Mail if you dont have WWW access or | | If you have Telnet Access Ask me for a list of web browers available | | through Telnet Sites,or Email. | | Cheap Programmers For Hire Here! | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 14:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18282; Thu, 8 Aug 96 14:56:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08053; Thu, 8 Aug 96 14:54:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08037; Thu, 8 Aug 96 14:53:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uocxT-00038BC; Thu, 8 Aug 96 14:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: A question about email address Date: 8 Aug 1996 15:28:33 -0400 Message-Id: References: Edmund Lau writes: >> That's why I want to let >> my formal address appear in the header of my message, instead of my real >> address. > >All you have to do is just set up >the user-domain line to be what ever you want. Hope this helps. This only works if the username is the same at both the domain names. The general solution is to ask your sys admin to compile pine so that ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM is permitted. I really think that the default pine should ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM and sys admins should have to set DISALLOW_CHANGING_FROM if they do not want their users to do this. Zillions of programs, including the ubiquitous Navigator allow people to change the From line. -Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 14:59:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18359; Thu, 8 Aug 96 14:59:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25503; Thu, 8 Aug 96 14:57:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Larry.Spacestar.Net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25493; Thu, 8 Aug 96 14:57:22 -0700 Received: from Larry.Spacestar.Net by Spacestar.COM (8.6.11/SMI-4.1.R931202) id QAA25543; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 16:57:42 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 16:57:36 -0500 (CDT) From: stormkloud To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Killfiles In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thank you! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Listen to them, the Children of the Night, What sweet music they make........" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Stormy "In the Company of Wolves" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 15:11:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18597; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:11:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25874; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:08:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25868; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:08:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uodD6-00038BC; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: timr@crl.com (Tim Rice) Subject: Arrow keys on Non-ANSI terminals Date: 5 Aug 1996 21:09:26 -0700 Message-Id: <4u6ghm$mvd@crl3.crl.com> I just tried pine (unix 3.95) yesterday on a non ANSI terminal (wyse 150) and noticed that the arrow keys did not work in the main menu like they do with ANSI type terminals. Shouldn't it work? Are the arrow keys hard coded or does it get the info from the curses library? I've been using pine since var 3.91 and I just realized that's the first tim I tried it on a non ANSI terminal. -- ----- Tim Rice Multitalents 707 887-1469 tim@trr.metro.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 15:55:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19829; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:55:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09636; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:54:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09614; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:54:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uodxS-00038UC; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "ELEX.Yury. Burkatovsky" Subject: Re: Reset messages to "New Message" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 08:37:28 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: Mime-Version: 1.0 On Sat, 3 Aug 1996, Terry P. Kasdan wrote: > How can I reset the flag to New on messages I've already read with Pine? > See, that way I can download my mail with Eudora, even after I've read it > using Pine... > > Thanks in advance! > If you haven't yet come to the solution, try issueing '*' and then 'N' when the answered message is positioned either at "Index" or "ViewMsg" screen. -- Regards, | /^^^\ Yury Burkatovsky | (| , , |) | | * | E-mail: tby@cpm.telrad.co.il | \_-_/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 15:55:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19823; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:55:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09612; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:53:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09606; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:53:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uodw1-00038BC; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eliezer Lerner Subject: HELP with news Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 09:55:12 +0000 Message-Id: <3209B980.4312@cimatron.co.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am using PINE for reading news groups. But I don't success to send a message to news group through PINE. I get an error message about invalid Internet address or something like this - the message is displayed for a short time only. The problem doesn't happen when I use NETSCAPE. Please, send your responses to my e-mail address. -- Best regards, +================================================================+ |Eliezer Lerner,| Email: eli1@cimatron.co.il| 11 Gush Etzion St.,| |System Admin, | Phone: +972-3-5312127 | Givat Shmuel, | |Cimatron | Fax: +972-3-5312192 | 51905, Israel | +================================================================+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 15:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19834; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:55:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27128; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:54:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27122; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:53:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uodws-00038TC; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: marc@hwsys.com Subject: Re: NEED A GOOD PPP PACKET DRIVER Date: 8 Aug 1996 08:25:48 GMT Message-Id: <4uc8ac$gt1@news.genuity.net> References: 050326Z04081996@anon.penet.fi On 1996-08-04 an682942 said: >SUBJECT I am currently using EtherPPP with Minuet. Due to the fact >that EtherPPP requires some 126000 bytes of resident memory, this >causes Minuet to crash regularly. I cannot use the graphics option >of the browser, only text, as using graphics will draw about one >half of the first graphics page before it crashes the system. Does >anyone know of a good PPP packet driver that works with DOS? No >Windows, and no Novell network. For pay OK. I have written a >dialer so the procedure could be just a packet driver with no >dialing options. EtherPPP would also crash it here too and I'm not using graphics. Quakeppp from Klos always worked for me with Minuet and other clients. It's available from Klos's web site at (I think) www.klos.com. I haven't used quakeppp in awhile since finding cslipper due to lower memory usage. Warning: there's no docs with Quakeppp except one small text file. Klos said you get docs if you register the software. Marc "...ads on the air won't work" - Herbert Hoover `[1;36;40mNet-Tamer V 1.05.1 - Test Drive From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 16:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19927; Thu, 8 Aug 96 16:00:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09755; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:58:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09749; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:58:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uodyE-00038BC; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "ELEX.Yury. Burkatovsky" Subject: Re: Turning off Mail Copies Permanently Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3206E6CB.1612@bc.edu> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 09:00:11 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <3206E6CB.1612@bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Elliot Cole wrote: > I work in a public lab environment, and so I need to find a way > to permanently turn the autosave feature off. Does anyone know of a way > of changing the program so that the users will not even have the option > for this? At pine configuration screen, find the "default-fcc" entry and change it to "" (literally - 2 double quotes). It will set the file name to empty one, and the Fcc field will appear empty by default/ -- Regards, | /^^^\ Yury Burkatovsky | (| , , |) | | * | E-mail: tby@cpm.telrad.co.il | \_-_/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 16:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20008; Thu, 8 Aug 96 16:01:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27247; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:58:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27241; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:58:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uodxk-00038VC; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "ELEX.Yury. Burkatovsky" Subject: Re: [Q] Headers Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 08:51:52 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: Mime-Version: 1.0 On Sat, 3 Aug 1996, Matt Chatterley wrote: > Just wondering, how, if it's possible, can I see the full heads > (x-headers?) for an email or usenet post that was sent me / I am viewing, > in pine? Is the only way to do this to include full headers in replies? > Command 'H' (header view) toggles the headers on/off at the screen in the "ViewMsg" mode. The initial "From " line will still remains unvisible in any case, but if you use pine vintage 3.94 or greater, you can set your configuration so as always to print this line. -- Regards, | /^^^\ Yury Burkatovsky | (| , , |) | | * | E-mail: tby@cpm.telrad.co.il | \_-_/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 16:01:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20007; Thu, 8 Aug 96 16:01:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09775; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:59:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09769; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:59:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uodzQ-00038XC; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: whitus@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov (Bobby R. Whitus) Subject: Pine with Sun Mail server ? Date: 8 Aug 1996 11:50:47 GMT Message-Id: <4uckan$kri@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> Has anyone tried the new Sun Internet mail server with Pine. If so, how well does it work ? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 16:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20087; Thu, 8 Aug 96 16:03:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27267; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:59:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27261; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:59:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uodz5-00038WC; Thu, 8 Aug 96 15:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: Re: VMS Newsreading. In-Reply-To: <3208463D.36BE@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <3208463D.36BE@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 11:51:51 GMT On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Doctor Johassen wrote: > I'm trying to set the nntp server on a VMS installation of pine Well, I have Yehavi's port of PINE for VMS set up at Glasgow, and here's how the config looks for the news server, when I'm in the configuration dialog: news-collections = My .PINERC file contains this line: nntp-server=nntp-server.gla.ac.uk and this: news-collections= does that help? (Of course you can't use that particular server yourself, but that's the principle). best regards Factoid: Milngavie police station is on the corner of Keystone Avenue. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 16:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20152; Thu, 8 Aug 96 16:06:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27411; Thu, 8 Aug 96 16:03:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27405; Thu, 8 Aug 96 16:03:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uoe4L-00038TC; Thu, 8 Aug 96 16:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Procomm & Pine 3.94 on DG/UX Date: 8 Aug 1996 15:47:19 -0400 Message-Id: References: <32068282.7BF0@bbs.voy-ager.com> Bill Stewart writes: >On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Bill Gemmel wrote: >>I am creating a e-mail and then attaching a WP document with pine >>3.94 and a salesman collects his e-mail with Procomm plus 3.00 on >>his P.C. In the new Procomm Plus there is a e-mail option in it >>now. The problem is that when I detach the attachment, WP says >>invalid Document Format. Is anyone using Procomm's e-mail package >>with Pine? > >Perhaps he doesn't have a new enough version of WordPerfect? Or perhaps Procomm's email package doesn't understand MIME? Or perhaps there's something wrong with your encoding. One test you could do is to send yourself the WP attachment and then detach it and open it up in WP. If this works, then my guess is that the problem is on the other system. Good luck, Nancy (mailed and posted) -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 16:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13813; Thu, 8 Aug 96 16:15:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27773; Thu, 8 Aug 96 16:14:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from yarra.vicnet.net.au by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27763; Thu, 8 Aug 96 16:14:08 -0700 Received: from rvib2.rvib.org.au (rvib2.rvib.org.au [203.3.138.1]) by yarra.vicnet.net.au (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA01251; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 09:13:08 +1000 Received: from rvib2.rvib.org.au by rvib2.rvib.org.au id aa03215; 9 Aug 96 9:13 AEST Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 09:13:17 +1000 (AEST) From: Les Wallis To: Goldarg Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Whats the newest version of pine (3.93??)_ In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It says 3.95 at the top of my screen. On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Goldarg wrote: > I have pine 3.93 but I need to know what the newest version is so my > provider can get it. > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Http://www.azstarnet.com/~goldarg | > | Goldarg@azstarnet.com | > | Ask Me how to get my Home Page by Mail if you dont have WWW access or | > | If you have Telnet Access Ask me for a list of web browers available | > | through Telnet Sites,or Email. | > | Cheap Programmers For Hire Here! | > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 17:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21666; Thu, 8 Aug 96 17:25:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12189; Thu, 8 Aug 96 17:23:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12183; Thu, 8 Aug 96 17:23:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uofIB-00038BC; Thu, 8 Aug 96 17:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: prefix character Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 20:08:46 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, Fred S Long wrote: > I cant find a reference in the help file and found nothing on the config > page that allows one to change the prefix character when quoting a message > for reply. If it's possible, how is it done? What version of Pine are you running? It makes a BIG difference. Versions 3.94 and 3.95 allow you to specify the prefix character in your configuration file. I don't recall just when this feature came in, although I know 3.91 did not have it. If you are running an older version which does not have the built-in capacity for setting the quoting prefix character, I have a simple technique you can lift off my WWW home page. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 18:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22624; Thu, 8 Aug 96 18:46:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01255; Thu, 8 Aug 96 18:44:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01249; Thu, 8 Aug 96 18:44:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uogZp-00038BC; Thu, 8 Aug 96 18:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) Subject: Re: Disable annoying "Delete sent-mail-xxx?" queries on startup? Date: 8 Aug 1996 23:17:47 GMT Message-Id: <4udsir$ha@fcnews.fc.hp.com> References: <32047473.1F75399@iki.fi> Peter Hjelt (phjelt@iki.fi) wrote: : After upgrading to pine 3.95 everything was fine until the month changed : to August. Now pine asks me to delete old sent-mail folders _every_ time : I start pine, even if I told it no on all previous years sent mail month : by month on last pine startup. This tends to get at you when you have to : press 'N' some 100 times before you can enter pine to read some mail =) I'm running PINE 3.91, and it asks me every month. To avoid answering lots of prompts, occasionally I move sent-mail-jun-1996 to to-archive-1996/ subdirectory. I cannot see the letters from within PINE, apparently no change subdirectory for folder allowed, but I could always copy an archive back into the parent directory for PINE perusal. -DM Standard disclaimers apply. : Why does it want to delete sent mail at all? I have never deleted a : message I've sent so far, and the collection is not much over 40MB. Sent : mail is a good reference when old issues are brought up, or when you : wonder what was going on with this and that back then. : Anyway, is there a switch to turn this "feature" off? I want to keep all : mail w/o going out and rename the sent-mail folders manually every month. : Thanks. : /*------------------------------------------------------------------------ : E-Mail: phjelt@iki.fi URL: http://www.iki.fi/phjelt/ : IRC: nick MXV on EICN/EF Tel: +358-0-5054790, +358-50-5665952 : ------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ -- + DAVID MULLANEY Mailstop #99, Loctn. 2UR8 (970) 229-7629 + + > Net: mullaney@fc.hp.com http://hpfcdn/ -*- fax 2838 + + > Software Engineer -- Ignition/UDL/OSSD /\/\/\ + + > Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, Colorado _-/\^^/ \ + From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 19:22:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22994; Thu, 8 Aug 96 19:22:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01805; Thu, 8 Aug 96 19:20:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01796; Thu, 8 Aug 96 19:20:00 -0700 Received: from knute (ip-pdx10-36.teleport.com [206.163.122.100]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA06959; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 11:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <320A3301.1659@teleport.com> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 11:34:37 -0700 From: Knute Snortum X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5a (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Rice Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Arrow keys on Non-ANSI terminals References: <4u6ghm$mvd@crl3.crl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tim Rice wrote: > > I just tried pine (unix 3.95) yesterday on a non ANSI terminal (wyse 150) > and noticed that the arrow keys did not work in the main menu like > they do with ANSI type terminals. > Shouldn't it work? > Are the arrow keys hard coded or does it get the info from the curses library? > I've been using pine since var 3.91 and I just realized that's > the first tim I tried it on a non ANSI terminal. Pine and Wyse terminals. [sigh] Can we get this is a FAQ? ;-) I'm not the expert on this, but since no one's answered you yet, I'll give you the basics. Yes, I believe pine "hard codes" the arrow keys (someone please correct me if I'm wrong.) It just has a "list" of escape sequences that it knows are all arrow keys. The problem with Wyse terminals is that the arrow keys send control characters that Pine uses for other functions, such as ^K. You can compile Pine so that it uses the arrow keys, but then you lose those functions. Solutions? Several. One is to use the termcap to turn your terminal into an ANSI terminal. Sounds magical, huh? I believe it uses the "is" keyword. Don't know the details. The other is to reprogram the arrow keys before you go into pine and reset them when you come out. I've got a script to do that, but not on me. You'll have to wait til Monday for that. (E-mail me if you want it. Oh, and the script is for Wyse 60 terminals, so you might have to rewrite it.) Sorry I'm short on specifics, but if you yell loud enough, the experts will ccome out of the woodwork. ;-) ---Knute (knute@teleport.com) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 20:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23419; Thu, 8 Aug 96 20:06:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14741; Thu, 8 Aug 96 20:04:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14735; Thu, 8 Aug 96 20:04:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uohpI-00038BC; Thu, 8 Aug 96 20:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scw@cirrus.seas.ucla.edu (Stephen C Woods) Subject: Re: sendmail Failure HELP!!! "ioctl system call"??? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 20:35:11 GMT References: <4uc1q1$q8t@nuke.csu.net> In article <4uc1q1$q8t@nuke.csu.net> dlegate@rsa.csuhayward.edu (Dan LeGate) writes: >I'm having trouble sending only certain people mail. It's strange. I >can send mail about 95% of the time just fine. But there are a few >domains that seem to cause a problem: like prodigy.com and juno.com. >Anyway, what happens is when I send the message, IMMEDIATELY (not in a >second or two, but right away), MY system gives me a MAILER-DAEMON. >This makes me believe it's not the receiving host, but something wrong >with my system's configuration? Does that sound right? You are not processing MX records. In /etc/sendmail.cf there is a line that contains the string #OK (That is Oscar Kilo, not ZERO KILO) read the comments on the preceding dozen or so lines. Then: what you want is is a line that says: OK MX or OK ALL Once you've done that don't forget to refresh -s sendmail -- ----- Stephen C. Woods; UCLA SEASNET; 2567 Boelter hall; LA CA 90024; (310)-825-8614 Finger for public key scw@cirrus.seas.ucla.edu,Internet mail:scw@SEAS.UCLA.EDU From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 20:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23524; Thu, 8 Aug 96 20:21:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02626; Thu, 8 Aug 96 20:19:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02620; Thu, 8 Aug 96 20:19:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uoi4l-00038BC; Thu, 8 Aug 96 20:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cyhsu@tpts1.seed.net.tw (PC_USER) Subject: Error 411, no such news group, Why??? Date: 9 Aug 1996 02:11:28 GMT Message-Id: <4ue6og$j69@voyager.iii.org.tw> I am having a difficult time to read news group with pine. Error 411 is the message that I got. NO such news group, but I can use tin to read it. Thank you in advance. Jun-ming From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 21:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24173; Thu, 8 Aug 96 21:26:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15732; Thu, 8 Aug 96 21:24:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15726; Thu, 8 Aug 96 21:24:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uoj5F-00038BC; Thu, 8 Aug 96 21:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gray@access1.digex.net Subject: Cannot Send Mail Date: 8 Aug 1996 14:25:33 -0400 Message-Id: <4udbet$iqo@access1.digex.net> For the last two days I have not been able to send or reply to my mail. Could this be something in my Pine config? Where should I look for the problem? Any clues would be helpful. TIA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 21:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24380; Thu, 8 Aug 96 21:47:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03683; Thu, 8 Aug 96 21:44:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03677; Thu, 8 Aug 96 21:44:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uojO5-00038BC; Thu, 8 Aug 96 21:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Michael D. Ruch" Subject: Pine 3.91 not finding newsgroup Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 21:40:47 -0700 Message-Id: <320AC14F.6437@sluvca.slu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, We are having a problem with trying to get a new newsgroup added to our news folder in Pine 3.91. Pine is running on VMS and the news server is running digital's unix. We are able to bring up the group on Netscape but the same group (MICROSOFT.*) can not be added in Pine. If anyone knows what we are doing wrong, or has experienced the same problems. please reply via e-mail. We have tried going into setup and changing things several different ways. We can add all COMP news groups but the Microsoft.* evades us. We're at a loss..... Help!! TIA, Mike Ruch ruchmd@sluvca.slu.edu Saint Louis University From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 22:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24608; Thu, 8 Aug 96 22:13:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04035; Thu, 8 Aug 96 22:10:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04029; Thu, 8 Aug 96 22:10:13 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 9 Aug 96 13:14:36 +0800 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 13:07:28 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: gray@access1.digex.net Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Cannot Send Mail In-Reply-To: <4udbet$iqo@access1.digex.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 8 Aug 1996 gray@access1.digex.net wrote: > For the last two days I have not been able to send or reply to my mail. > Could this be something in my Pine config? Where should I look for the > problem? Any clues would be helpful. TIA You have not given enough details for anyone to be of help. What happens when you try to send? Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 22:16:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24650; Thu, 8 Aug 96 22:16:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16384; Thu, 8 Aug 96 22:14:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16378; Thu, 8 Aug 96 22:14:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uojqk-00038BC; Thu, 8 Aug 96 22:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cyhsu@tpts1.seed.net.tw (PC_USER) Subject: Error 441, how to fix it? Date: 9 Aug 1996 02:22:51 GMT Message-Id: <4ue7dr$jam@voyager.iii.org.tw> I had error 411 a few minutes ago when I tried to read news. I delete .pine* file and reconfigure my news server IP. Now, I can read news, but I couldn't post message to the news group. Could anybody tell me how to fix it? Thanks. BTW, how to use pine to cross posting to a group of related news group? Jun-ming From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 00:27:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25619; Fri, 9 Aug 96 00:27:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05678; Fri, 9 Aug 96 00:25:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05672; Fri, 9 Aug 96 00:25:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uoluc-00038BC; Fri, 9 Aug 96 00:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: Turning off Mail Copies Date: 8 Aug 1996 17:55:07 GMT Message-Id: <4ud9ls$jfo@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: Un jour, Paul O Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) affirmait publiquement que: | Nothing simpler. Before you send the message, put the curser on | the Fcc: line in the header and press ^K (Control-K). This will blank | out the line and the message will not be saved. I do it all the time | for tiny little acknowledgement messages that aren't worth keeping | copies of. But you have to call the rich headers first (^R) in the headers section. Just a precision :-) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da mailto:tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca B.Sc info (2e année) http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ Université de Montréal -----> Ce n'est sûrement pas l'université qui partage mes opinions. <----- Il y a des miroirs pour le visage, il n'y en a pas pour l'esprit. -- B. Gracian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 00:36:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23791; Fri, 9 Aug 96 00:36:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18189; Fri, 9 Aug 96 00:35:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18163; Fri, 9 Aug 96 00:34:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uom2i-00038BC; Fri, 9 Aug 96 00:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: Turning off Mail Copies Permanently Date: 8 Aug 1996 18:08:00 GMT Message-Id: <4udae0$jfo@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: <3206E6CB.1612@bc.edu> Un jour, Elliot Cole (elliot.cole@bc.edu) affirmait publiquement que: | I work in a public lab environment, and so I need to find a way | to permanently turn the autosave feature off. Does anyone know of a way | of changing the program so that the users will not even have the option | for this? Create a pine.conf.fixed file (usually in /usr/local/lib). HTH.. __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da mailto:tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca B.Sc info (2e année) http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ Université de Montréal -----> Ce n'est sûrement pas l'université qui partage mes opinions. <----- Il y a des miroirs pour le visage, il n'y en a pas pour l'esprit. -- B. Gracian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 00:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25655; Fri, 9 Aug 96 00:36:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05848; Fri, 9 Aug 96 00:35:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05842; Fri, 9 Aug 96 00:35:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uom3s-00038TC; Fri, 9 Aug 96 00:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: abe0084@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (Adam Vardy) Subject: Y command Date: 8 Aug 1996 18:37:08 GMT Message-Id: <4udc4k$rmv@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Can someone tell me about this command? When I hit ? for help and scroll down through that, I can see no mention of this command. Why doesn't Pine tell me what it does? - Adam From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 01:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26058; Fri, 9 Aug 96 01:33:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06587; Fri, 9 Aug 96 01:30:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06581; Fri, 9 Aug 96 01:30:46 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 9 Aug 1996 09:28:24 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA07071; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 09:30:23 +0100 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 09:30:22 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: TRAN Huu Da Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Turning off Mail Copies Permanently In-Reply-To: <4udae0$jfo@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ...And into this "fixed configuration file" put the settings that you want in effect and which the users can't override. Apart from the "features" list of settings this hard-codes the variables value so that it can't be overridden. For the list of features only that one feature is permanently enabled or disabled (if its keyword is prefixed with "no-"). The other, unlisted, features can still be set/overridden vy users. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 8 Aug 1996, TRAN Huu Da wrote: > Un jour, Elliot Cole (elliot.cole@bc.edu) > affirmait publiquement que: > > | I work in a public lab environment, and so I need to find a way > | to permanently turn the autosave feature off. Does anyone know of a way > | of changing the program so that the users will not even have the option > | for this? > > Create a pine.conf.fixed file (usually in /usr/local/lib). > > HTH.. > > __________________________________________________________________________ > TRAN, Huu Da mailto:tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca > B.Sc info (2e annie) http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ > Universiti de Montrial > -----> Ce n'est s{rement pas l'universiti qui partage mes opinions. <----- > > Il y a des miroirs pour le visage, il n'y en a pas pour l'esprit. > -- B. Gracian > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 01:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26151; Fri, 9 Aug 96 01:47:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19130; Fri, 9 Aug 96 01:45:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19124; Fri, 9 Aug 96 01:45:46 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 9 Aug 1996 09:43:24 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) for id JAA09049; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 09:45:23 +0100 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 09:45:22 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: A question about email address In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I disagree. It is precisely because Navigator etc make it so easy to set up (also "misrepresent", "set up wrongly" and "forge other people's) e-mail addresses that our University (and, I hope, others) take such a dim view of them for use as mailers. The solution we use (as do many sites) is to have a properly managed mail hub. All outgoing mail is directed through the hub, which rewrites headers -- specifically the From: line -- appropriately. In our case this is to harmonise the e-mail address to "username@unix.york.ac.uk" regardless of which machine the message originated from. It could also change "username" to "real name" if we so wished (we don't). This, surely, is the best solution as it doesn't then involve each and every user duplicating effort (and possibly making mistakes) setting their own From: line up. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 8 Aug 1996, Nancy McGough wrote: > Edmund Lau writes: > >> That's why I want to let > >> my formal address appear in the header of my message, instead of my real > >> address. > > > >All you have to do is just set up > >the user-domain line to be what ever you want. Hope this helps. > > This only works if the username is the same at both the domain > names. The general solution is to ask your sys admin to compile > pine so that ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM is permitted. I really think > that the default pine should ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM and sys admins > should have to set DISALLOW_CHANGING_FROM if they do not want their > users to do this. Zillions of programs, including the ubiquitous > Navigator allow people to change the From line. > > -Nancy > > -- > <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< > @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ > (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) > ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 02:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26468; Fri, 9 Aug 96 02:39:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19769; Fri, 9 Aug 96 02:35:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19763; Fri, 9 Aug 96 02:35:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uonxB-00038BC; Fri, 9 Aug 96 02:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Schleichert Subject: Re: Y command Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 11:25:05 +0200 Message-Id: References: <4udc4k$rmv@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4udc4k$rmv@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> On 8 Aug 1996, Adam Vardy wrote: > Can someone tell me about this command? When I hit ? for help and scroll > down through that, I can see no mention of this command. Why doesn't Pine > tell me what it does? Depends on the situation. The short menu at the bottom of the screen tells you what Y does. Sometimes (for example, in the message viewer) it's on the second page (use O Other commands to scroll menu pages). With respect to messages, Y means print (they spell it prYnt). When prompted yes/no, it means yes. - Hans -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Schleichert, Dipl.-Phys. Institut fuer Medizinische Psychologie und Verhaltensneurobiologie (Institute of Medical Psychology and Behavioural Neurobiology) Eberhard-Karls-University Gartenstrasse 29 D-72074 Tuebingen, Germany From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 02:45:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26716; Fri, 9 Aug 96 02:45:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07451; Fri, 9 Aug 96 02:40:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07445; Fri, 9 Aug 96 02:40:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uonzW-00038TC; Fri, 9 Aug 96 02:36 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Schleichert Subject: Re: E-mail address not always user@domain Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 11:28:16 +0200 Message-Id: References: <4uddk2$c1n@annapolis.Capitol.Net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4uddk2$c1n@annapolis.Capitol.Net> You have two possibilities: (1) Have your local mailer replace the From: lines. Our mailer, for example, replaces all From: userid@mailserv.uni-tuebingen.de lines by From: firstname.surname@uni-tuebingen.de. (2) Make your users insert a customized header From: generic-address (while viewing this message, press H Header mode to see my From: line). - Hans -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Schleichert, Dipl.-Phys. Institut fuer Medizinische Psychologie und Verhaltensneurobiologie (Institute of Medical Psychology and Behavioural Neurobiology) Eberhard-Karls-University Gartenstrasse 29 D-72074 Tuebingen, Germany From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 02:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26724; Fri, 9 Aug 96 02:48:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19900; Fri, 9 Aug 96 02:45:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19894; Fri, 9 Aug 96 02:45:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uoo3o-00038BC; Fri, 9 Aug 96 02:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Juan ALDAY Subject: Re: bulk-e-mail.com Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 11:36:48 +0200 Message-Id: References: <4uc4eb$e9c@ramona.sfo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE In-Reply-To: <4uc4eb$e9c@ramona.sfo.com> On Thu, 8 Aug 1996 sales@bulk-e-mail.com wrote: > We Make Business More Productive With: > =B7 Mass E-Mail Campaigns. =B7 Tested Promotional Programs. > =B7 Robust Data Collection. =B7 Full Data Administration. > =B7 Millions Of Addresses World Wide. =B7 Full System Administration. >=20 > The collected data will allow you and your clients a measured return on= =20 > investment !!!!!=20 No big deal, as long as I don't get one of those advs... Remember, my system (like so many others) tends to send hundreds of Mbs to companies that send unwanted commercial advs. > =B7 Millions Of Addresses World Wide. I hope mine's not there... ___________________________________________________________________________= __ Juan ALDAY=20 SPAIN | FRANCE =20 alday@encomix.es | Juan.Alday@enst-bretagne.fr http://www.encomix.es/~alday | Finger for Geek Code Info |=09=09 UK Finger for PGP Public Key | alday@nic.gi (Unsolicited commercial ads to this e-mail will be considered as abuse!) Each unsolicited comercial e-mail received will be returned 100 times with a 2 Mb file attach ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= - From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 05:41:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27745; Fri, 9 Aug 96 05:41:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22372; Fri, 9 Aug 96 05:40:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22366; Fri, 9 Aug 96 05:40:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uoqoa-00038BC; Fri, 9 Aug 96 05:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: new Pine operations Date: 9 Aug 1996 11:52:51 GMT Message-Id: <4uf8qj$l8q@babbage.ece.uc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article , dlangen@makani.k12.hi.us (David Langen) writes: >I asked for help the other day because I couldn't print off my Pine >connections. I can do it now. Is there anyone who can tell me how to >print the whole message, not just the screen I'm looking at? Also, >somehow all my email is going into a "read only" folder which can't be >deleted. What can I do about that? Please advise. Thanks, >dlangen@makani.k12.hi.us If you are using Unix Pine, the default is to print the whole message. I have not found a way to print a part of message instead of the whole. Anyone? Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu for my PGP pub. key= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 05:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27642; Fri, 9 Aug 96 05:55:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09870; Fri, 9 Aug 96 05:50:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09864; Fri, 9 Aug 96 05:50:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uoqz1-00038BC; Fri, 9 Aug 96 05:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Semyon Subject: HELP Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 07:23:38 -0400 Message-Id: <320B1FBA.50BF@advn.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I got some info from ftp://128.146.20.83/ Now they change their directories and important files dissapears. How to find old files or e-mail of this FTP-master? Please, respond directly to my e-mail. Thanks Semyon (user-idiot) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 06:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28348; Fri, 9 Aug 96 06:57:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10647; Fri, 9 Aug 96 06:53:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dhc1.deehoward.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10641; Fri, 9 Aug 96 06:53:23 -0700 Received: from localhost by dhc1.deehoward.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA62730; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 08:50:54 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 08:50:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrea Gonzales To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: exporting folder contents Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a way to export the contents of an entire folder to a file, WITHOUT having to do each msg. one by one? Please reply directly. :) thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrea D. Gonzales adg5283@dhc1.deehowrd.com Dee Howard Co. Mfg. Division Shipping & Receiving Dept. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 07:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28927; Fri, 9 Aug 96 07:39:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23846; Fri, 9 Aug 96 07:33:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23834; Fri, 9 Aug 96 07:33:17 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 9 Aug 1996 15:30:56 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id PAA27425; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 15:32:53 +0100 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 15:32:53 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Andrea Gonzales Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: exporting folder contents In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes ... use the "Select" and "Apply" commands. The former allows you to select a set of messages; the latter allows you to apply a command to the selection. Before you can use these you may need to turn on the "enable-aggregate-command-set" in the Setup Configuration screen. Having done this go to the Index screen on the folder you want to do this for then type: ; A ... Select All messages A E ... Apply an Export command to the selection (then follow the prompts as usual). Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Andrea Gonzales wrote: > Is there a way to export the contents of an entire folder to a file, > WITHOUT having to do each msg. one by one? > Please reply directly. > :) thanks! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Andrea D. Gonzales adg5283@dhc1.deehowrd.com > Dee Howard Co. Mfg. Division Shipping & Receiving Dept. > > * * * * * * > * * * * * > * * * * * > * * * * * * * * * * > * * * * * * > * * * * * * * * > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 07:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29211; Fri, 9 Aug 96 07:52:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24061; Fri, 9 Aug 96 07:44:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dhc1.deehoward.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24055; Fri, 9 Aug 96 07:44:26 -0700 Received: from localhost by dhc1.deehoward.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA44850; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 09:41:42 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 09:41:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrea Gonzales To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: exporting folder contents In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks, Mike....It worked. On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Yes ... use the "Select" and "Apply" commands. > > The former allows you to select a set of messages; the latter allows you > to apply a command to the selection. > > Before you can use these you may need to turn on the > "enable-aggregate-command-set" in the Setup Configuration screen. > > Having done this go to the Index screen on the folder you want to do this > for then type: > > ; A ... Select All messages > A E ... Apply an Export command to the selection > (then follow the prompts as usual). > Cheers, > > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrea D. Gonzales adg5283@dhc1.deehowrd.com Dee Howard Co. Mfg. Division Shipping & Receiving Dept. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 08:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29915; Fri, 9 Aug 96 08:16:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24598; Fri, 9 Aug 96 08:10:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24591; Fri, 9 Aug 96 08:10:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uot90-00038BC; Fri, 9 Aug 96 08:06 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: black@csulb.edu (Matthew Black) Subject: info on EXTRADRIVERS=mbox Date: 9 Aug 1996 15:04:56 GMT Message-Id: <4ufk2o$qi5@hatathli.csulb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Where can I get further information on building PINE with the mbox driver? PINE behaves in an peculiar manner: 1. PINE is started by a user who has a file ~/mbox. All mail from the NFS-mounted spool is appended to the end of ~/mbox which serves as the INBOX folder. When exiting from PINE, the mail spool file (/usr/spool/mail/) is empty while all undeleted messages remain in ~/mbox. 2. PINE is started by a user without an ~/mbox file Messages from /usr/spool/mail/ are used as the INBOX folder. When exiting from PINE, undeleted messages remain in the NFS-mounted mail spool rather than being copied to ~/mbox. Can anyone shed some light on how to make PINE behave as in #1 eventhough a user doesn't have an "mbox" file? --matt ============================================================================ matthew black | the opinions expressed herein are mine and network & systems administrator | may not reflect those of my employer. california state university | cecs department | e-mail: black@csulb.edu 1250 bellflower boulevard | PGP fingerprint: 98 4E DF BE 49 A8 DF 99 long beach, ca 90840 | 6A 7A 1B F1 3E 50 E5 D2 =============================(c) 1996 by Matthew Black, all rights reserved= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 08:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30514; Fri, 9 Aug 96 08:38:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25220; Fri, 9 Aug 96 08:35:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.kitsap.lib.wa.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25214; Fri, 9 Aug 96 08:35:06 -0700 Received: from linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us (linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us [198.187.135.22]) by mail.kitsap.lib.wa.us (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA04287; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 08:39:28 -0700 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 08:35:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Schuyler To: Tim Rice Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Arrow keys on Non-ANSI terminals In-Reply-To: <4u6ghm$mvd@crl3.crl.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 5 Aug 1996, Tim Rice wrote: > I just tried pine (unix 3.95) yesterday on a non ANSI terminal (wyse 150) > and noticed that the arrow keys did not work in the main menu like > they do with ANSI type terminals. > Shouldn't it work? > Are the arrow keys hard coded or does it get the info from the curses library? > I've been using pine since var 3.91 and I just realized that's > the first tim I tried it on a non ANSI terminal. Perhaps this is related: Ever since we went to 3.95 several of our users report screen emulation problems that they had not had prior to 3.95. There is no mention of screen changes in the update docs. BUT did something change in 3.95 vis-a-vis VT-100 emulation? o o o o o o o . . . _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | Kitsap Regional | | LinkNet Support | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | Library | | 'least we try! | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|____________________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ============================================================================ Support: (360) 405-9131 Fax:(360) 405-9128 support@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us Michael Schuyler: Voice:(360) 405-9139 michael@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 08:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31199; Fri, 9 Aug 96 08:59:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12863; Fri, 9 Aug 96 08:50:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12857; Fri, 9 Aug 96 08:50:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uotnr-00038BC; Fri, 9 Aug 96 08:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mjenks@solaria.sol.net (Mark Jenks) Subject: Re: Arrow keys on Non-ANSI terminals Date: 9 Aug 1996 12:47:14 GMT Message-Id: <4ufc0j$1d9@hummin.sol.net> References: <4u6ghm$mvd@crl3.crl.com> <4u95dh$7n2@news.xmission.com> <4ueaeq$8j6@news.xmission.com> Aaron M. Scarisbrick (aaron@xmission.com) wrote: : Aaron M. Scarisbrick (aaron@xmission.com) wrote: : : a couple others, because Wyse stupidly uses control characters not escape : : sequences for its arrow keys. This compile option must be put in pico's : I received some constructive abuse about labeling Wyse's control scheme as : being "stupid". I am now enlightened about the bad ol' days when people : used 2400 baud and (horrors!) 300 baud modems, and when DEC VT100 terminals : were new fangled expensive toys. Please excuse my ignorance as I was in : elementary school in the very early eighties. : I retract my calling Wyse "stupid", and wish to rephrase it as "innovative : challenged" when compared to more modern schemes. : --------------------------------------------------------------------------- : Aaron M. Scarisbrick "Yes, this is correct." -Larry Wall : --------------------------------------------------------------------------- : aaron@xmission.com http://www.xmission.com/~aaron : --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey, I still have my 110 acoustic-coupler at home (for posperity).. God, do I feel old now. Mark From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 10:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00424; Fri, 9 Aug 96 10:16:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28128; Fri, 9 Aug 96 10:12:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.NL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28122; Fri, 9 Aug 96 10:12:03 -0700 Received: from ciint by ns.NL.net via EUnet id AA03680 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Fri, 9 Aug 1996 18:40:40 +0200 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa14740; 9 Aug 96 18:10 WET Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 17:10:45 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering To: Knute Snortum Cc: Tim Rice , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Arrow keys on Non-ANSI terminals In-Reply-To: <320A3301.1659@teleport.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, Knute Snortum wrote: > Tim Rice wrote: > > > > I just tried pine (unix 3.95) yesterday on a non ANSI terminal (wyse 150) > > and noticed that the arrow keys did not work in the main menu like > > they do with ANSI type terminals. [ snip ] > I'm not the expert on this, but since no one's answered you yet, I'll > give you the basics. Yes, I believe pine "hard codes" the arrow keys > (someone please correct me if I'm wrong.) It just has a "list" of > escape sequences that it knows are all arrow keys. Pine does indeed maintain a list of ANSI based edit keys that will always be recognized (arrows, home, end, etc...), but as of version 3.92 this list just functions as a default. Starting from this version, Pine will also obtain a list of valid key sequences from either termcap or terminfo (depending on the default for your platform). > The problem with Wyse terminals is that the arrow keys send control > characters that Pine uses for other functions, such as ^K. To avoid a potential change in behavior when upgrading from a Pine release prior to 3.92, any sequence that attempts to redefine one of Pine's default "hard coded" keys is ignored (because termcap/terminfo are notorious for being incomplete or incorrect). Also, any sequence from termcap/terminfo that doesn't start with an escape is ignored. > You can compile Pine so that it uses the arrow keys, but then you lose > those functions. Indeed. By adding "-DTERMCAP_WINS" to the STDCFLAGS definition in the makefiles pine/makefile. and pico/makefile., any sequence defined in termcap/terminfo will take precedence over the defaults of Pine, even if it doesn't start with an escape. As a result, the arrow keys will now work on any Wyse terminal. However, any key that returns a value identical to a Ctrl- function of Pine or Pico will now have precedence over that function. For example, if you press Ctrl-K in an attempt to Cut Text in the composer, a cursor up action will be performed instead (on a Wyse terminal). You can still access the overlapped functions by using the feature of Pine/Pico that allows Ctrl- to be entered as ESC ESC , but it requires a different action on the part of the user. > Solutions? Several. One is to use the termcap to turn your terminal > into an ANSI terminal. Sounds magical, huh? I believe it uses the "is" > keyword. Don't know the details. Exactly! On SCO, for example, most of the Wyse terminals are also support by a terminal entry that ends in "ak" (for ANSI Keys). When you select these terminal entries, all edit keys will be programmed with ANSI-like values (indeed using "is" for termcap and "is2" for terminfo). At the same time, the "interpret sequence X as key Y" values are changed to match the new ANSI sequences. Pine would have recognized the ANSI keys anyway using its hard coded list of keys, but it is necessary to support "vi" & co. On such systems, specifying TERM as "wy150ak" before calling Pine should make your edit keys work (it might also require a "tput init" command). > The other is to reprogram the arrow keys before you go into pine and > reset them when you come out. I've got a script to do that, but not on > me. This is indeed the solution to go for if you are lacking the previously mentioned "ak" entries. Be sure that you DON'T have TERMCAP_WINS enabled when you are using these scripts. If you do, termcap/terminfo will still report that certain Ctrl values are to be mapped to keys. Even though Pine will recognize the reprogrammed ANSI values using its hard coded key list, pressing an overlapped Ctrl- function would still act like pressing the key it is "officially" mapped to (gaining nothing over the situation with just TERMCAP_WINS enabled). In general, having TERMCAP_WINS enabled only is a problem if you have defective termcap/terminfo files or if you are using scripts that will reprogram your keys. What you gain by enabling it, is right out-of-the-box support for Wyse terminals (with the forementioned limitations) and (full) support for a number of other terminals (MAI terminals, anyone?). It should also be the only way to get the cursor keys of a Wyse 50 to work because, as far as I know, these keys cannot be reprogrammed. I hope this adds some background to the information Knute was kind enough to supply. I also like to second his idea of putting this information in a FAQ of some sort. Kind regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | Let me make one thing perfectly clear: | | CI International B.V. Netherlands | I never explain anything! (Mary Poppins)| +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 10:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01026; Fri, 9 Aug 96 10:49:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29113; Fri, 9 Aug 96 10:46:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29107; Fri, 9 Aug 96 10:46:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uovad-00038TC; Fri, 9 Aug 96 10:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gray@access1.digex.net Subject: cmsg cancel <4udbet$iqo@access1.digex.net> Control: cancel <4udbet$iqo@access1.digex.net> Date: 9 Aug 1996 13:33:47 -0400 Message-Id: <4ufspr$4k1@access1.digex.net> <4udbet$iqo@access1.digex.net> was cancelled from within trn. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 14:49:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06126; Fri, 9 Aug 96 14:49:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22847; Fri, 9 Aug 96 14:46:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22839; Fri, 9 Aug 96 14:46:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uozLh-00038BC; Fri, 9 Aug 96 14:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rfunk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Rob Funk) Subject: Re: E-mail address not always user@domain Date: 9 Aug 1996 19:37:41 GMT Message-Id: <4ug425$5no@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <4uddk2$c1n@annapolis.capitol.net> In article <4uddk2$c1n@annapolis.capitol.net>, Mike Batchelor wrote: >set up to do direct SMTP to the mail server (Sendmail 8.7.5). Sendmail is >linked against the Berkeley db 1.85, so our incoming aliasing can take >advantage of some simple db lookup rules. But I haven't gotten this to work >yet for outgoing reverse aliasing. Normally, setting a mailname for the user in sendmail's userdb file should do the trick -- but only if the mailer doesn't fully-qualify the sender's From address. However, there is no way (short of changing source code) to prevent pine from fully-qualifying the sender's From address. I'm trying to work out a way to make sendmail deal with this (de-qualify the name before userdb lookup), but I'm no sendmail expert. -- =========== R o b F u n k ===========|===========> funk+@osu.edu <=========== "Why are you here? Snap out of it. |rfunk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Wake up. It's all illusions." |rfunk@freenet.columbus.oh.us "I LIKE THE MOVIE" -- Richard Bach |http://er4www.eng.ohio-state.edu/~funkr From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 19:02:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28161; Fri, 9 Aug 96 19:02:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10916; Fri, 9 Aug 96 19:00:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10910; Fri, 9 Aug 96 19:00:43 -0700 Received: (from brennan@localhost) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA19063; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 22:00:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 96 22:00:34 EDT From: Joe Brennan To: black@csulb.edu (Matthew Black) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: info on EXTRADRIVERS=mbox In-Reply-To: Your message of 9 Aug 1996 15:04:56 GMT Message-Id: > Where can I get further information on building PINE with the mbox driver? > PINE behaves in an peculiar manner: Interesting question, because we have a "small" spool disk and a "large" array for home directories, so we want to use mbox. You've described the way the drivers work. Note that the order of appearance in the makefile determines the order in which Pine tries them; the first one that works gets used. The mbox driver gets called on the condition that there is an mbox file. If so, Pine uses it and moves new mail into it by itself, as you describe. If there is no mbox, Pine moves on to the next driver in the list. Pine is essentially anti-mbox and the driver seems to be no more than a concession to users who happen to have an mbox already. As soon as the mbox is empty, Pine reverts to its tendency to keep mail in spool. You might be tempted to do "touch mbox" at login, or in a pine shellscript wrapper, but it's not good enough! You will also need to modify one of the source files to make it accept a zero-length mbox as "valid". Joseph Brennan Postmaster Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York postmaster@columbia.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 21:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10166; Fri, 9 Aug 96 21:04:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12431; Fri, 9 Aug 96 21:02:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12425; Fri, 9 Aug 96 21:02:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0up5C9-00038BC; Fri, 9 Aug 96 20:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hamjavar@unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar) Subject: Re: Arbitrary Pine Freeze up Date: 9 Aug 1996 20:06:30 -0600 Message-Id: <4ugqr6$3kl4@mirac.unm.edu> ============================================ >Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 06:08:42 -0700 >From: Mark Crane >Subject: Arbitrary Pine Freeze up. >Here's the deal: When I access Pine, which is running in my student >account on a Unix machine somewhere (Korn shell), it freezes up when I >scroll too quickly through my index of messages using the cursor keys. >Sometims it just freezes, period. ============================================ Hello Mark, Please tell us what is the version of both PINE and "Unix machine somewhere" that you are using? I posted something earlier this week, about what we are experiencing which is also a case of freezing up. In our case Unix (aix4.1.4) session is frozen when PINE3.95 loses its imap connection with the server (also on aix4.1.4) ... Thanks, Farid hamjavar@unm.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 21:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09827; Fri, 9 Aug 96 21:13:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29524; Fri, 9 Aug 96 21:12:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29517; Fri, 9 Aug 96 21:12:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0up5LM-00038BC; Fri, 9 Aug 96 21:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Leslie D. Waters" Subject: distribution lists Date: 10 Aug 1996 04:06:10 GMT Message-Id: <4uh1ri$la4@samba.rahul.net> Is there a way to have Pine not expand a distribution list? I have an alias that is a distribution list of email addresses. I would like to not have it be expanded, and included in everyone's message. I would like to protect the privacy of each member of the list, to prevent some member getting the addresses of other members of the list. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 21:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10526; Fri, 9 Aug 96 21:18:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12623; Fri, 9 Aug 96 21:17:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12617; Fri, 9 Aug 96 21:17:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0up5T9-00038BC; Fri, 9 Aug 96 21:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Date: 9 Aug 1996 11:21:31 EST Message-Id: Control: cancel <4uc4eb$e9c@ramona.sfo.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <4uc4eb$e9c@ramona.sfo.com> EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19960809.10 for further details From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 23:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08313; Fri, 9 Aug 96 23:19:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14060; Fri, 9 Aug 96 23:12:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14050; Fri, 9 Aug 96 23:12:10 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 10 Aug 96 14:16:44 +0800 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 14:09:34 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "Leslie D. Waters" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: distribution lists In-Reply-To: <4uh1ri$la4@samba.rahul.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 10 Aug 1996, Leslie D. Waters wrote: > Is there a way to have Pine not expand a distribution list? I have an > alias that is a distribution list of email addresses. I would like to > not have it be expanded, and included in everyone's message. I would > like to protect the privacy of each member of the list, to prevent some > member getting the addresses of other members of the list. When sending to the list, put the DL in the Lcc: field rather than the To: or Cc:. You need to do a ^R with the cursor in the headers to reveal the existance of an Lcc: field. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 01:03:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12255; Sat, 10 Aug 96 01:03:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02283; Sat, 10 Aug 96 01:02:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02277; Sat, 10 Aug 96 01:02:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0up8wN-00038UC; Sat, 10 Aug 96 00:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: info on EXTRADRIVERS=mbox Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 00:54:27 -0700 Message-Id: References: <4ufk2o$qi5@hatathli.csulb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4ufk2o$qi5@hatathli.csulb.edu> On 9 Aug 1996, Matthew Black wrote: > Where can I get further information on building PINE with the mbox driver? > PINE behaves in an peculiar manner: > > 1. PINE is started by a user who has a file ~/mbox. > All mail from the NFS-mounted spool is appended to the end of ~/mbox > which serves as the INBOX folder. When exiting from PINE, the mail > spool file (/usr/spool/mail/) is empty while all undeleted > messages remain in ~/mbox. > > 2. PINE is started by a user without an ~/mbox file > Messages from /usr/spool/mail/ are used as the INBOX folder. > When exiting from PINE, undeleted messages remain in the NFS-mounted > mail spool rather than being copied to ~/mbox. This is how the code was designed; ~/mbox is used only if there is one. > Can anyone shed some light on how to make PINE behave as in #1 eventhough > a user doesn't have an "mbox" file? Modify mbox.c so that it unconditionally creates an ~/mbox file in mbox_valid() instead of only going through if one exists. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 01:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06085; Sat, 10 Aug 96 01:04:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15281; Sat, 10 Aug 96 01:02:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15275; Sat, 10 Aug 96 01:02:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0up8wP-00038VC; Sat, 10 Aug 96 00:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 and MH folders Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 00:56:57 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Darren J Moffat wrote: > I want to add the MH folder that lives in ~/Mail/backup to the list > According to the online help this should be a line thus: > "Backup" mh#/Mail/backup "Backup" #mh/backup The mh indicator is "#mh", not "mh#". You don't list the mh path directory either. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 01:59:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12634; Sat, 10 Aug 96 01:59:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02924; Sat, 10 Aug 96 01:57:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02918; Sat, 10 Aug 96 01:57:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0up9pz-00038BC; Sat, 10 Aug 96 01:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "=?EUC-KR?B?vNu/tcHW?=" Subject: A question Date: 10 Aug 1996 08:49:22 GMT Message-Id: <01bb8697$75d07500$0a93fccc@MrSong.kol.co.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-KR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just upgraded to pine V3.95 on my Solaris 2.4 platform. Before this, I had been using V3.91. Speed improved, a few new features added. However, I don't see any plus mark right beside the messages coming directly to me. This mark helped me a lot with finding such messages in my old Pine. Does anybody know how to get it to work again in my new Pine? Thanks in advance. Youngjoo Song(boobtube@hitel.kol.net) A man at South Korea From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 04:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13756; Sat, 10 Aug 96 04:33:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04693; Sat, 10 Aug 96 04:31:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04687; Sat, 10 Aug 96 04:31:44 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 10 Aug 96 19:36:18 +0800 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 19:29:07 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: =?EUC-KR?B?vNu/tcHW?= Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: A question In-Reply-To: <01bb8697$75d07500$0a93fccc@MrSong.kol.co.kr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On 10 Aug 1996, [EUC-KR] =BC=DB=BF=B5=C1=D6 wrote: > I just upgraded to pine V3.95 on my Solaris 2.4 platform. Before this, I > had been using V3.91. Speed improved, a few new features added. >=20 > However, I don't see any plus mark right beside the messages coming > directly to me. This mark helped me a lot with finding such messages in m= y > old Pine. Does anybody know how to get it to work again in my new Pine? >=20 =09Pine now has a new config variable called "alt-addresses ". Set that variable to the various addresses you may be known by and the + will reappear. =09Regards, =09=09Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Comme= rce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section= 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 05:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13930; Sat, 10 Aug 96 05:04:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18079; Sat, 10 Aug 96 05:03:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18073; Sat, 10 Aug 96 05:03:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0upCix-00038UC; Sat, 10 Aug 96 05:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matt Chatterley Subject: [Q]: Posting to multiple groups Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 12:54:14 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any reason why when I try to post to two groups with pine 3.95, the post doesn't seem to appear in any of them? This is being cc'ed to supernet.test to test the theory.. any ideas? Regards, -Matt Chatterley http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html "Do not meddle in the affairs of Wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger." --J.R.R Tolkien From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 05:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14136; Sat, 10 Aug 96 05:44:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18480; Sat, 10 Aug 96 05:43:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18474; Sat, 10 Aug 96 05:43:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0upDJy-00038ZC; Sat, 10 Aug 96 05:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crane Subject: Arbitrary Pine Freeze up. Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 06:08:42 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello Pinesters, Here's the deal: When I access Pine, which is running in my student account on a Unix machine somewhere (Korn shell), it freezes up when I scroll too quickly through my index of messages using the cursor keys. Sometims it just freezes, period. I am accessing pine through an aging lan run on sub-286 pcs, using netware 3.62 for dos, and clarkson universities telnet client. I believe we are using some kind of ipx packet driver, but I'm not sure. The odd thing is, when I telnet into the same account from an old account, everything works fine. Any ideas? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 06:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14470; Sat, 10 Aug 96 06:50:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06012; Sat, 10 Aug 96 06:48:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06006; Sat, 10 Aug 96 06:48:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0upEOm-00038BC; Sat, 10 Aug 96 06:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: IMAP & Browsers (WAS: Pine and Netscape) Date: 8 Aug 1996 16:00:37 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4tng5i$6l5@rain.psg.com> Jeffrey Goldberg writes: >Only when netscape's browser supports IMAP. Netscape have announced plans >to support IMAP. Does anyone know when: * the Netscape server software will include an IMAP daemon? * the Netscape mail client will be able to access mail folders using IMAP? * the Netscape news client will be able to access news groups using IMAP? What about other browsers, like MSIE, will it's mail and news clients be able to use IMAP? Thanks, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 10:05:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15837; Sat, 10 Aug 96 10:05:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21361; Sat, 10 Aug 96 10:04:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21355; Sat, 10 Aug 96 10:03:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0upHPy-00038BC; Sat, 10 Aug 96 10:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Adam Vardy Subject: Re: Y command Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 14:24:07 -0230 Message-Id: References: <4udc4k$rmv@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Hans Schleichert wrote: > On 8 Aug 1996, Adam Vardy wrote: > > > Can someone tell me about this command? When I hit ? for help and scroll > > down through that, I can see no mention of this command. Why doesn't Pine > > tell me what it does? > > Depends on the situation. The short menu at the bottom of the screen tells > you what Y does. Sometimes (for example, in the message viewer) it's on It says Print. That is it! Which has little significance to me since I am at home, and printing a file on a printer from the host machine has no relevance. > the second page (use O Other commands to scroll menu pages). With respect > to messages, Y means print (they spell it prYnt). When prompted yes/no, it > means yes. I still have no clue what it does. Someone suggested to me that I use it for some purpose. Why doesn't Pine Help describe it? - Adam PS. Does Pine have a FAQ? > > - Hans > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Schleichert, Dipl.-Phys. > Institut fuer Medizinische Psychologie und Verhaltensneurobiologie > (Institute of Medical Psychology and Behavioural Neurobiology) > Eberhard-Karls-University > Gartenstrasse 29 > D-72074 Tuebingen, Germany > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 13:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17044; Sat, 10 Aug 96 13:31:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10752; Sat, 10 Aug 96 13:29:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10746; Sat, 10 Aug 96 13:29:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0upKa6-00038BC; Sat, 10 Aug 96 13:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: clydel@pacbell.net (Clyde) Subject: Convert addresses between Eudora, Netscape, Lotus Notes Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 20:07:31 GMT Message-Id: <4uiq52$1dk@pbinews.snfc21.pacbell.net> References: <4to8vp$3u0@news1.radix.net> jhd@Radix.Net (Joseph Davidson) wrote: >I have scripts to convert the mailing lists between mailers. >Pine to Eudora >Eudora to Pine >Pine to Netscape >You can find links to these scripts at the bottom of my Web page at >www.interguru.com >Note: I will not be answering mail until Aug. 10. >-- >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Joseph Davidson Ph.D. >InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting >Computer and Network Consulting, Win 95 and Mac >1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 >voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 >jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com >---------------------------------------------------------------------- Looked at Joseph's web page. I actually need to go from Netscape to Eudora and Lotus Notes to Eudora.j Any clues? Clyde From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 14:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17903; Sat, 10 Aug 96 14:56:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24791; Sat, 10 Aug 96 14:54:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24785; Sat, 10 Aug 96 14:54:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0upLx2-00038BC; Sat, 10 Aug 96 14:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hurry@imap2.asu.edu Subject: Re: automatic replies when away Date: 10 Aug 1996 21:51:46 GMT Message-Id: <4uj09i$8qk@news.asu.edu> References: <320B6992.412C@mni.uwo.ca> Miguel Valvano (mvalvano@mni.uwo.ca) wrote: : How can I configure Pine to send an automatic message (reply) : to incoming messages indicating that I am away. Thanks This really should be added to the faq since it comes up at least once a week. The trick is to use a program that is availible on most Unix systems called vacation. Just type vacation and if you have it, you can edit a message that will automatically be sent to people who mail to you. When you come back, type vacation again and it will be removed. -- Adam Myrow From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 15:01:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17949; Sat, 10 Aug 96 15:01:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11760; Sat, 10 Aug 96 14:59:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11754; Sat, 10 Aug 96 14:59:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0upM1D-00038TC; Sat, 10 Aug 96 14:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rm@Access1.AccessNET.ru (Roman V. Isaev) Subject: A question (probably dumb) Date: 10 Aug 1996 21:48:54 GMT Message-Id: <4uj046$h9h@fagot.techno.ru> Is it possible to disable MIME in Pine? Certainly i don't want to dig sources... Every time when Pine find russian text, it turns letter body and subject line into gribberish, and 90% of other mail readers DON'T support it. So i'm stuck with elm :-( -- ,---------------------------,---------------------------------------------. | Visit my homepage at | Roman V. Isaev rm@accessnet.ru | | http://accessnet.ru/lp/rm | Moscow, Russia 2:5020/263.24,193.11,285.7 | `---------------------------'---------------------------------------------' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 17:46:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19028; Sat, 10 Aug 96 17:46:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26493; Sat, 10 Aug 96 17:45:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26487; Sat, 10 Aug 96 17:45:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0upOdV-00038BC; Sat, 10 Aug 96 17:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edpaolo@intac.com (Ed Paolo) Subject: Spell 'CTL T' not working Date: 30 Jul 1996 23:35:51 GMT Message-Id: <4tm68n$b58@uucp.intac.com> I just changed to another IP and was wondering why the spell 'CTL t' doesn't work on the Pine 3.91. I get a 'user/bin/spell not found'. Should I be looking for spell or Ispell in my /user/bin dir. How could I search the entire network dir to find where spell or Ispell is at. Is there a way I could tell pine in the configure to point to where spell is really at? -- EdDataFix edpaolo@nile.intac.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 17:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11135; Sat, 10 Aug 96 17:51:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13584; Sat, 10 Aug 96 17:50:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13578; Sat, 10 Aug 96 17:50:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0upOfE-00038BC; Sat, 10 Aug 96 17:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matt Chatterley Subject: [Q]: Follow ups Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 00:10:33 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there an easy (or relatively easy) way to set "follow-up-to" in a news post using pine? If there is, I can't find it.. a slot in the headers (rich headers - ^R) was all that occured to me.. and I couldn't see anything there.. would I need to set something in complex-headers? Regards, -Matt Chatterley http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html "Do not meddle in the affairs of Wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger." --J.R.R Tolkien From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 17:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19101; Sat, 10 Aug 96 17:56:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26584; Sat, 10 Aug 96 17:55:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26578; Sat, 10 Aug 96 17:55:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0upOmJ-00038TC; Sat, 10 Aug 96 17:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: [Q]: Follow ups Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 20:21:49 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 11 Aug 1996, Matt Chatterley wrote: > Is there an easy (or relatively easy) way to set "follow-up-to" in a news > post using pine? If there is, I can't find it.. a slot in the headers > (rich headers - ^R) was all that occured to me.. and I couldn't see > anything there.. would I need to set something in complex-headers? In your personal configuration, you can add customized headers. Then, when you invoke ^R, "Follow-up-to:" (or however you spell it) it will be there for you to fill in. I don't know of any automatic way to fill in the actual value, and I would presume you wouldn't want to, anyway, because, depending on cross-posting, you might want to fill it in this way or that. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 18:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19253; Sat, 10 Aug 96 18:31:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14005; Sat, 10 Aug 96 18:30:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13999; Sat, 10 Aug 96 18:30:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0upPJm-00038BC; Sat, 10 Aug 96 18:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Y command Date: 9 Aug 1996 18:30:26 GMT Message-Id: <4ug042$8n8@star.epix.net> References: <4udc4k$rmv@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Adam Vardy (abe0084@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca) wrote: : Can someone tell me about this command? When I hit ? for help and scroll : down through that, I can see no mention of this command. Why doesn't Pine : tell me what it does? It stands for pr(Y)nt ... as in 'print'. BYE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 19:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19444; Sat, 10 Aug 96 19:02:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27235; Sat, 10 Aug 96 19:00:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27229; Sat, 10 Aug 96 19:00:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0upPkU-00038BC; Sat, 10 Aug 96 18:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: flong@sgi73.wwb.noaa.gov (Fred S Long) Subject: prefix character Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 13:30:03 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I cant find a reference in the help file and found nothing on the config page that allows one to change the prefix character when quoting a message for reply. If it's possible, how is it done? Thanks, From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 20:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19964; Sat, 10 Aug 96 20:14:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15018; Sat, 10 Aug 96 20:10:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15012; Sat, 10 Aug 96 20:10:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0upQud-00038BC; Sat, 10 Aug 96 20:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Miguel Valvano Subject: automatic replies when away Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 09:38:42 -0700 Message-Id: <320B6992.412C@mni.uwo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How can I configure Pine to send an automatic message (reply) to incoming messages indicating that I am away. Thanks -- Miguel A. Valvano, M.D., Associate Professor, Department of Microbiology and Immunology University of Western Ontario London, Ontario, N6A 5C1, Canada Phone (519) 661-3996/3433 Fax (519) 661-3499 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 20:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20262; Sat, 10 Aug 96 20:52:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28374; Sat, 10 Aug 96 20:50:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28360; Sat, 10 Aug 96 20:50:47 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 11 Aug 96 11:55:23 +0800 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 11:48:12 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Fred S Long Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: prefix character In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, Fred S Long wrote: > I cant find a reference in the help file and found nothing on the config > page that allows one to change the prefix character when quoting a message > for reply. If it's possible, how is it done? You don't say which version of pine you are using..... In 3.94+ (3.95 being the current version) you have: reply-indent-string = "> Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 20:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20286; Sat, 10 Aug 96 20:54:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15440; Sat, 10 Aug 96 20:52:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15434; Sat, 10 Aug 96 20:52:27 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 11 Aug 96 11:57:02 +0800 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 11:49:52 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Miguel Valvano Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: automatic replies when away In-Reply-To: <320B6992.412C@mni.uwo.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Miguel Valvano wrote: > How can I configure Pine to send an automatic message (reply) > to incoming messages indicating that I am away. Thanks You can't. You need to use something like the "vacation" program which is available on many varities of U*NIX. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 21:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13813; Sat, 10 Aug 96 21:02:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28487; Sat, 10 Aug 96 21:01:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28481; Sat, 10 Aug 96 21:01:08 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 11 Aug 96 12:05:42 +0800 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 11:58:32 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: Adam Vardy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Y command In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 10 Aug 1996, Adam Vardy wrote: > It says Print. That is it! > > Which has little significance to me since I am at home, and printing a > file on a printer from the host machine has no relevance. It may have more significance than you expect. Go to the M(ain) menu. They type S(etup) followed by P(rinter). Tells your about "attached-to-ansi". > > the second page (use O Other commands to scroll menu pages). With respect > > to messages, Y means print (they spell it prYnt). When prompted yes/no, it > > means yes. > > I still have no clue what it does. Someone suggested to me that I use it > for some purpose. It prints your email??? > Why doesn't Pine Help describe it? I suspect that "print" is fairly obvious. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 21:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20418; Sat, 10 Aug 96 21:16:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28653; Sat, 10 Aug 96 21:15:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28647; Sat, 10 Aug 96 21:15:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0upRtl-00038BC; Sat, 10 Aug 96 21:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sf7pdgnp@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (Steve Baetzner) Subject: forward Date: 11 Aug 1996 03:40:25 GMT Message-Id: <4ujkn9$437@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> Hi. Wondering how I can locate a message that someone has forwarded tko me through PINE? What is the procedure? I have an indication that the message is there but I cannot find it. I pressed the "Whereis" key and tyhped in the subject word of forwarded message and got this line: " found on line 4". Thanks for any help. -- STEVE BAETZNER From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 21:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20308; Sat, 10 Aug 96 21:56:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16069; Sat, 10 Aug 96 21:55:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16063; Sat, 10 Aug 96 21:55:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0upSXc-00038BC; Sat, 10 Aug 96 21:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Turning off Mail Copies Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 20:03:42 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4ud9ls$jfo@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4ud9ls$jfo@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> On 8 Aug 1996, TRAN Huu Da wrote: : Un jour, Paul O Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) : affirmait publiquement que: : : | Nothing simpler. Before you send the message, put the curser on : | the Fcc: line in the header and press ^K (Control-K). This will blank : | out the line and the message will not be saved. I do it all the time : | for tiny little acknowledgement messages that aren't worth keeping : | copies of. : : But you have to call the rich headers first (^R) in the headers section. : : Just a precision :-) Say what? Not on my system. Fcc: is always visible in the headers, even without turning on "rich headers." Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 21:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20834; Sat, 10 Aug 96 21:59:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16105; Sat, 10 Aug 96 21:57:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16099; Sat, 10 Aug 96 21:57:42 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 11 Aug 96 13:02:18 +0800 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 12:55:07 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Steve Baetzner Cc: Pine Info Subject: forward (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Steve, Not sure I understand your question..... But instead of sending a reply I did a forward to you of your message. You can see that the Subject: line contains (fwd) and the text contains: Forwarded message. Is that the indication you are interested in? Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 11 Aug 1996 03:40:25 GMT From: Steve Baetzner To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: forward Hi. Wondering how I can locate a message that someone has forwarded tko me through PINE? What is the procedure? I have an indication that the message is there but I cannot find it. I pressed the "Whereis" key and tyhped in the subject word of forwarded message and got this line: " found on line 4". Thanks for any help. -- STEVE BAETZNER From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 22:43:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21231; Sat, 10 Aug 96 22:43:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29629; Sat, 10 Aug 96 22:41:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29623; Sat, 10 Aug 96 22:41:41 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 11 Aug 96 13:46:15 +0800 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 13:39:05 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: Paul O Bartlett Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Turning off Mail Copies In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On 8 Aug 1996, TRAN Huu Da wrote: > > : Un jour, Paul O Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) > : affirmait publiquement que: > : > : | Nothing simpler. Before you send the message, put the curser on > : | the Fcc: line in the header and press ^K (Control-K). This will blank > : | out the line and the message will not be saved. I do it all the time > : | for tiny little acknowledgement messages that aren't worth keeping > : | copies of. > : > : But you have to call the rich headers first (^R) in the headers section. > : > : Just a precision :-) > > Say what? Not on my system. Fcc: is always visible in the > headers, even without turning on "rich headers." Hummmm....you either have Fcc: in your list of "view-headers" in your configuration or some other setting that is causing Fcc: to contain something other than the default. I say this since Fcc: is generally *not* visiable unless I have it set in the alias definition. If it the default "outbox" then it does not show. Looking at the "view-headers" help we find: The default list of headers includes: From, Resent-From, To, Resent-To, Cc, Resent-cc, Bcc, Newsgroups, Followup-To, Date, Resent-Date, Subject, Resent-Subject, and Reply-To. BTW, it is not clear to me if the "view-headers" applies to composing or only to reading. I'd test it now....but my cat keeps walking all over the keyboard making life difficult at the moment.. :-) Regards, Ed & Misty ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 22:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21205; Sat, 10 Aug 96 22:57:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29799; Sat, 10 Aug 96 22:54:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vtbit.cc.vt.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29793; Sat, 10 Aug 96 22:54:35 -0700 Received: from VTBIT.CC.VT.EDU by VTBIT.CC.VT.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1139; Sun, 11 Aug 96 01:53:57 EDT Received: from SAKACS00.BITNET (NJE origin MAILER@SAKACS00) by VTBIT.CC.VT.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 5630; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 01:53:57 -0400 Received: from SAUPM00.BITNET (NJE origin MAILBOX@SAUPM00) by SAKACS00.BITNET (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6041; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 08:53:24 +0000 Received: (from SAUPM00 for S <@SAUPM00.DPC.KFUPM.EDU.SA:s942486@dpc.kfupm.edu.sa> via BSMTP) . Received: (from SAUPM00 for MAILBOX@SAUPM00 via NJE) (UCLA/Mail V1.500 M-SMTP-7501-41); Sun, 11 Aug 96 08:52:43 SAT Received: from dpc107.dpc.kfupm.edu.sa by SAUPM00.DPC.KFUPM.EDU.SA (IBM MVS SMTP V3R1) with TCP; Sun, 11 Aug 96 08:52:20 LCL Received: from localhost (s942486@localhost) by dpc107.dpc.kfupm.edu.sa (8.6.4/8.6.9) id IAA30825; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 08:52:28 +0300 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 08:52:28 +0300 (SAUST) From: AL-JAIZAN MUHAMMAD ALI SAAD Subject: QUESTIONS To: PINE TEAM Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII HI... I am very glad to write this e-mail to you . Hoping that you can ansser my questions. So May i have the last develop information of pine ? and Who is inventor of pine ? and Can i have the e-mail address of him ? and the e-meil address of departments of the WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY ? ** THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELPING ** MY BEST WISHES MOHAMMED ALI KING FAHAD UNIVERSITY OF PETROLUM AND MINERALS From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 23:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21354; Sat, 10 Aug 96 23:01:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29856; Sat, 10 Aug 96 23:00:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from yarra.vicnet.net.au by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29850; Sat, 10 Aug 96 23:00:11 -0700 Received: from rvib2.rvib.org.au (rvib2.rvib.org.au [203.3.138.1]) by yarra.vicnet.net.au (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA17224; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 15:59:12 +1000 Received: from rvib2.rvib.org.au by rvib2.rvib.org.au id aa03439; 11 Aug 96 15:55 AEST Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 15:54:57 +1000 (AEST) From: Les Wallis To: "Leslie D. Waters" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: distribution lists In-Reply-To: <4uh1ri$la4@samba.rahul.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Put the alias in the Lcc field which you see by selecting Control R for rich header. Then only the group alias not all the addresses will appear in the To field of your message, as sent and as received. On 10 Aug 1996, Leslie D. Waters wrote: > Is there a way to have Pine not expand a distribution list? I have an > alias that is a distribution list of email addresses. I would like to > not have it be expanded, and included in everyone's message. I would > like to protect the privacy of each member of the list, to prevent some > member getting the addresses of other members of the list. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 23:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21606; Sat, 10 Aug 96 23:37:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00322; Sat, 10 Aug 96 23:35:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00316; Sat, 10 Aug 96 23:35:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0upU7e-00038BC; Sat, 10 Aug 96 23:35 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: Y command Date: 10 Aug 1996 14:24:11 -0500 Message-Id: <4uinkr$279@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: <4udc4k$rmv@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article , Adam Vardy wrote: > > It says Print. That is it! > > Which has little significance to me since I am at home, and printing a > file on a printer from the host machine has no relevance. If you're using a decent telnet or dialup client, it may be possible to print directly to a locally attached printer. Your software has to support `pass-thru' printing; if it does you can print to a local printer. If you have a printer attached to your local computer, try going into the setup/printer area, and activating `ANSI passthrough printing', and then see what happens. Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 01:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22418; Sun, 11 Aug 96 01:51:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01739; Sun, 11 Aug 96 01:49:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01733; Sun, 11 Aug 96 01:49:27 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 11 Aug 96 16:54:01 +0800 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 16:46:49 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: AL-JAIZAN MUHAMMAD ALI SAAD Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: QUESTIONS In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 11 Aug 1996, AL-JAIZAN MUHAMMAD ALI SAAD wrote: > I am very glad to write this e-mail to you . Hoping that > > you can ansser my questions. So May i have the last develop > > information of pine ? and Who is inventor of pine ? and Can i have > > the e-mail address of him ? and the e-meil address of departments > > of the WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY ? From the M(ain) menu of pine type R(elease notes) and you can read all about the history of pine.... Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 05:28:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23828; Sun, 11 Aug 96 05:28:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21033; Sun, 11 Aug 96 05:26:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21027; Sun, 11 Aug 96 05:26:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0upZXR-00038BC; Sun, 11 Aug 96 05:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Darren J Moffat Subject: [Solution] Pine 3.95 and MH folders Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 18:08:26 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 10 Aug 1996, Mark Crispin wrote: > On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Darren J Moffat wrote: > > I want to add the MH folder that lives in ~/Mail/backup to the list > > According to the online help this should be a line thus: > > "Backup" mh#/Mail/backup > > "Backup" #mh/backup > > The mh indicator is "#mh", not "mh#". okay, that was a typo in the message I had tried both anyway. > You don't list the mh path directory either. I've managed to work it out now. I needed to have a .mh_profile that has at least: Path: Mail/ in it and then specify #mh/foo for the MH folders in ~/Mail. Thanks -- Darren J Moffat "Veni, Vidi, Dolavi" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 07:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24567; Sun, 11 Aug 96 07:39:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22226; Sun, 11 Aug 96 07:37:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22220; Sun, 11 Aug 96 07:37:04 -0700 Received: from localhost (sf7pdgnp@localhost) by scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA21007; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 10:34:47 -0400 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 10:34:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Baetzner X-Sender: sf7pdgnp@scfn To: Ed Greshko Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: forward (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can't seem to locate the forwarded text that was sent to me. Tried "Whereis" which gave me a line "found on line 4" after I entered the subject of the forwarded post. Then I tried the "Fwd" key and that only gave me the forward a message (outgkoing). What I need to know is where do I find a forwarded message to me? I think this guy whould have "attached" these text files rather than "forwarded " them. I suspect they are lost. Thanks for any help. STEVE BAETZNER From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 08:03:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24140; Sun, 11 Aug 96 08:03:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05501; Sun, 11 Aug 96 08:02:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05495; Sun, 11 Aug 96 08:02:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0upc0z-00038BC; Sun, 11 Aug 96 08:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Kenzik Subject: Pico question concerning xterms Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 10:48:22 -0400 Message-Id: <320DF2B6.6F66@time.alien.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there any way that the standalone binary for pico can support the mouse in the same manner that Pine does? I'm quite happy that the support was added to pine, but I also use pico constantly and it would be a great feature. I only hope that it's not just available in the pico library that Pine uses. I apologise if this was mentioned somewhere (obscure?), but I didn't find anything in any FAQ or mail archives. Thank you, David S. Kenzik -- OneNet Communications New Media - Director http://www.one.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 08:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24600; Sun, 11 Aug 96 08:18:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22602; Sun, 11 Aug 96 08:17:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22596; Sun, 11 Aug 96 08:17:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0upcF8-00038BC; Sun, 11 Aug 96 08:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "John O. Stambaugh" Subject: HELP Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 11:01:51 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please send a keystroke for keystroke process to put my name in the "from" box. When I reply to someone in a newsgroup my message as listed in the "I" or list screen has "reply to" or something like that. Using Pine 3.93 on a shell account. Thanks John O. Stambaugh Lantana, Florida USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 14:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26771; Sun, 11 Aug 96 14:04:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09176; Sun, 11 Aug 96 14:02:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09170; Sun, 11 Aug 96 14:02:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uphdJ-00038BC; Sun, 11 Aug 96 14:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Adam H. Kerman" Subject: Headers in the viewer and composer (was: Turning off Mail Copies) Date: 11 Aug 1996 15:18:24 -0400 Message-Id: <19960811151819.aaaa000Kc@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> References: <19960811151820.baaa000Kc@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> On 10 Aug 1996, Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com (Ed Greshko) wrote: > BTW, it is not clear to me if the "view-headers" applies to > composing or only to reading. I'd test it now....but my cat keeps walking > all over the keyboard making life difficult at the moment.. :-) No. "view-hdrs" allows the user to customize which headers are displayed while reading messages. (To view all headers, enable "allow-full-header-command" and type "h" while viewing messages.) "default-composer-hdrs" affects which headers are displayed while composing messages. ^r displays additional headers in the composer. If either option is invoked, the user must prepare an entire list of headers he wishes to display. He may not add headers to the default list. "customized hdrs", on the other hand, allows the user to add headers to the default list for use during composing. A default value may also be provided. But, to be displayed in the composer without using ^r, they must also be added to "default-composer-hdrs". From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 14:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27016; Sun, 11 Aug 96 14:19:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26272; Sun, 11 Aug 96 14:17:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26266; Sun, 11 Aug 96 14:17:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uphql-00038BC; Sun, 11 Aug 96 14:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: afrotc@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU Subject: Attachments in Pine from other Mail servers Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 16:44:15 CST Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do you extract or save attachments sent to you from other mail servers. Example, I often get "ENCODED" documents (MS WORD) that require "UUDECODE" to extract? How is this done?? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 14:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27256; Sun, 11 Aug 96 14:53:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26633; Sun, 11 Aug 96 14:51:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from access5.digex.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26627; Sun, 11 Aug 96 14:51:47 -0700 Received: from localhost (pobart@localhost) by access5.digex.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA00342 ; for ; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 17:51:45 -0400 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 17:51:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul O Bartlett X-Sender: pobart@access5.digex.net To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Turning off Mail Copies In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-No-Archive: yes Organization: Express Access Private Account Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 11 Aug 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: : On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: : : > On 8 Aug 1996, TRAN Huu Da wrote: : > : > : Un jour, Paul O Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) : > : affirmait publiquement que: : > : : > : | Nothing simpler. Before you send the message, put the curser on : > : | the Fcc: line in the header and press ^K (Control-K). This will blank : > : | out the line and the message will not be saved. I do it all the time : > : | for tiny little acknowledgement messages that aren't worth keeping : > : | copies of. : > : : > : But you have to call the rich headers first (^R) in the headers section. : > : : > : Just a precision :-) : > : > Say what? Not on my system. Fcc: is always visible in the : > headers, even without turning on "rich headers." : : Hummmm....you either have Fcc: in your list of "view-headers" in : your configuration or some other setting that is causing Fcc: to contain : something other than the default. I say this since Fcc: is generally : *not* visiable unless I have it set in the alias definition. If it : the default "outbox" then it does not show. : [...] Actually, I think we both stand partially corrected. Unless one is taking the default, which in Pine 3.94 (and probably earlier versions, as well) -- and the default does *not* contain Fcc:, contrary to what I thought -- what controls what one sees as headers when composing without pressing ^R is default-composer-hdrs: in the configuration. Viewer-hdrs controls what one sees when *viewing*, not when *composing*. If you put in _anything_ beyond the default in default-composers-hdrs:, then you must put in _everything_ you want to see, including the items that would be otherwise be defaulted. I have had Fcc: in my default-composer-hdrs: for so long that I forgot it was not a default item. To that extent I was in error in my original response, and I should have noted that one could make Fcc: appear all the time without ^R by setting it in the congifuration. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 17:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28180; Sun, 11 Aug 96 17:12:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28146; Sun, 11 Aug 96 17:09:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28138; Sun, 11 Aug 96 17:09:55 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 12 Aug 96 08:14:32 +0800 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 08:07:19 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: afrotc@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Attachments in Pine from other Mail servers In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 6 Aug 1996 afrotc@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU wrote: > How do you extract or save attachments sent to you from other mail > servers. Example, I often get "ENCODED" documents (MS WORD) that require > "UUDECODE" to extract? How is this done?? Under "normal" conditions and if you are running on a U*IX system you can use the "|" pipe command (needs to be enabled in the config...) and pipe (pass) the contents of the message body to a uudecode program. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 17:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28174; Sun, 11 Aug 96 17:12:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11374; Sun, 11 Aug 96 17:11:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11368; Sun, 11 Aug 96 17:11:42 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 12 Aug 96 08:16:20 +0800 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 08:09:07 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "Adam H. Kerman" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Headers in the viewer and composer (was: Turning off Mail Copies) In-Reply-To: <19960811151819.aaaa000Kc@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 11 Aug 1996, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > On 10 Aug 1996, Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com (Ed Greshko) wrote: > > > BTW, it is not clear to me if the "view-headers" applies to > > composing or only to reading. I'd test it now....but my cat keeps walking > > all over the keyboard making life difficult at the moment.. :-) > > No. "view-hdrs" allows the user to customize which headers are displayed Thanks....learn something new every day..... ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 17:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28206; Sun, 11 Aug 96 17:17:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28224; Sun, 11 Aug 96 17:15:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28218; Sun, 11 Aug 96 17:15:24 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 12 Aug 96 08:20:02 +0800 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 08:12:49 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Paul O Bartlett Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Turning off Mail Copies In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 11 Aug 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > Actually, I think we both stand partially corrected. Yes. I should have waited for the cat to sleep and then did a bit more research. I could have put the cat....but I'm on the 7th floor and that may have been a bit extreme. :-) Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 18:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28944; Sun, 11 Aug 96 18:48:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12403; Sun, 11 Aug 96 18:46:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from phantom.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12397; Sun, 11 Aug 96 18:46:41 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by phantom.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.07) with SMTP id SAA02438; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 18:46:35 -0700 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 18:46:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Nancy McGough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP & Browsers (WAS: Pine and Netscape) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Nancy, Netscape mail server 2.0Beta2 is available now, and includes IMAP4 support. IMAP support in the client comes with the "Galileo" release at the end of the year. See www.imap.org/whatsnew.html under "Recent IMAP-related products and services announcements" section for articles about both. Not sure about news access via IMAP. Several MS product groups are working on IMAP support. If you go to www.microsoft.com and do a search on "IMAP" you'll get several hits. -teg On 8 Aug 1996, Nancy McGough wrote: > Jeffrey Goldberg writes: > >Only when netscape's browser supports IMAP. Netscape have announced plans > >to support IMAP. > > Does anyone know when: > > * the Netscape server software will include an IMAP daemon? > * the Netscape mail client will be able to access mail folders > using IMAP? > * the Netscape news client will be able to access news groups > using IMAP? > > What about other browsers, like MSIE, will it's mail and news > clients be able to use IMAP? > > Thanks, > Nancy > > -- > <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< > @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ > (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) > ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 18:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28977; Sun, 11 Aug 96 18:53:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29327; Sun, 11 Aug 96 18:51:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from phantom.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29321; Sun, 11 Aug 96 18:51:35 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by phantom.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.07) with SMTP id SAA02481; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 18:51:33 -0700 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 18:51:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Turning off Mail Copies In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ed, I'm glad you waited for the cat to go to sleep... I'd hate to think that Pine was responsible for your furry critter trying to learn how to fly. -teg On Mon, 12 Aug 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Sun, 11 Aug 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > > > Actually, I think we both stand partially corrected. > > Yes. > > I should have waited for the cat to sleep and then did a bit > more research. I could have put the cat....but I'm on the 7th floor > and that may have been a bit extreme. :-) > > Regards, > > Ed > ----- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 22:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30918; Sun, 11 Aug 96 22:38:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15156; Sun, 11 Aug 96 22:34:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pax.axionet.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15150; Sun, 11 Aug 96 22:34:30 -0700 Received: from LOCALNAME (mb201.axionet.com [206.108.215.201]) by axionet.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA11714 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 22:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199608120531.WAA11714@axionet.com> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 96 22:34:10 -0700 From: peter wang Organization: pete X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22KIT (Windows; U; 16bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Making Money By MAIL Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Where I can find the BBS's message base and the file section and can I do this in Canada? Please E-mail me at: pete@axionet.com, thank you!!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 23:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31151; Sun, 11 Aug 96 23:18:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15737; Sun, 11 Aug 96 23:13:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from yarra.vicnet.net.au by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15729; Sun, 11 Aug 96 23:13:43 -0700 Received: from rvib2.rvib.org.au (rvib2.rvib.org.au [203.3.138.1]) by yarra.vicnet.net.au (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id QAA07589 for <@yarra.vicnet.net.au:pine-info@cac.washington.edu>; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 16:12:41 +1000 Received: from rvib2.rvib.org.au by rvib2.rvib.org.au id aa24122; 12 Aug 96 16:08 AEST Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 16:08:22 +1000 (AEST) From: Les Wallis To: Pine Info Group Subject: Bulletin board Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is not a strictly Pine question - but ... Anyone out there know of a bulletin board program that will run under SCO Unix. We are using Wildcat in DOS but we want to get the bulletin board into the Unix environment. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 07:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01598; Mon, 12 Aug 96 07:38:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08574; Mon, 12 Aug 96 07:28:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dhc1.deehoward.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08568; Mon, 12 Aug 96 07:28:25 -0700 Received: from localhost by dhc1.deehoward.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA68224; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 09:25:49 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 09:25:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrea Gonzales To: "J. Melusky" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Sort Usenet and email differently? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Help. How can I access a usenet newsgroup using IMAP. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 07:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02141; Mon, 12 Aug 96 07:48:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21847; Mon, 12 Aug 96 07:37:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cascade.cascade.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21841; Mon, 12 Aug 96 07:37:36 -0700 Received: from localhost (rcook@localhost) by cascade.cascade.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA23605; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 07:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 07:33:17 -0700 (PDT) From: roland cook To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Carrie Subject: e-mail print command Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On my PC (486, 8 MB ram, Windows 3.1) Pine has worked extremely well until recently on printing out e-mail from the screen. I currently use the Windows Terminal utility program for e-mail. Now, when I use the command "Y" to print out an e-mail letter, if the letter is about 1K bytes or less, Pine prints out the letter on "attached desktop (ANSI) printer" with no faults. However if the letter exceeds about 1K in length, Pine stops displaying the balance of the letter, but continues sending all screens that occur following the aborted letter to the buffer from which the printer is loaded in my PC, until I quit Pine. When I log off the host, the printer prints out the part of the letter before it was aborted, plus all of the screens transmitted to my PC after the partial letter. The buffer in my PC for the printer shows perhaps 20K to 30K of material for printout, while the entire letter may have been only 2K. I have discussed this with local manager, and looked at the debug files for Pine, but have been unable to find any indication, except the word "babble" in the debug file, which might refer to the difficulty. I have re-loaded Pine, with default settings, but this produces the same results. Is there any way to diagnose this problem and correct it? Roland Cook From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 07:55:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02216; Mon, 12 Aug 96 07:55:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09027; Mon, 12 Aug 96 07:53:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from snoopy.tblc.lib.fl.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09021; Mon, 12 Aug 96 07:52:57 -0700 Received: from localhost (laudem@localhost) by snoopy.tblc.lib.fl.us (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA09300 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 14:53:24 GMT Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 10:53:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Maria Laude X-Sender: laudem@snoopy To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: printing with local laser printer Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone have experience and success with printing using the "Y" command to a local attached desk jet / laser printer? Setting the printer configuration to "1-attached to ansi" doesn't work. Help! I do not subscribe to this list, so please post answers directly to me. Thanks! Maria Laude Tampa Bay Library Consortium From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 09:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04866; Mon, 12 Aug 96 09:29:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11664; Mon, 12 Aug 96 09:25:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11655; Mon, 12 Aug 96 09:25:13 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 12 Aug 1996 17:22:53 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id RAA29150; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 17:24:46 +0100 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 17:24:45 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Andrea Gonzales Cc: "J. Melusky" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Sort Usenet and email differently? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 1. Start Pine and go to its Setup Configuration screen ("S" then "C" from its Main Menu.) 2. Set the value of the "nntp-server" variable to that of your NNTP (News) server. Without Step 3 (below) this will set things up to read and post news via NNTP. 3. Put the cursor on the "news-collections" variable and read the on-line help for it. This explains about how to set up a "news collection". Typically you want something like this: *{news.site.domain}[] Things to note: * Step 3 sets up news _reading_ via IMAP. However the nntp-server variable must still be set up if you plan to _post_ news articles. * Setting nntp-server but leaving news-collections empty sets up a default news collection for reading news via NNTP from the machine specified in nntp-server. It is equivalent to a news-collection of: *{news.site.domain/nntp}[] (The "/nntp" says that NNTP should be used instead of (the default) IMAP.) * All this assumes that your system administrator who manages you IMAP server has set it up to provide access to Usenet news. This is not necessarily the case; check with them. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 12 Aug 1996, Andrea Gonzales wrote: > Help. How can I access a usenet newsgroup using IMAP. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 09:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05100; Mon, 12 Aug 96 09:37:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11883; Mon, 12 Aug 96 09:34:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11877; Mon, 12 Aug 96 09:33:54 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 12 Aug 1996 17:31:10 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id RAA00035; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 17:32:46 +0100 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 17:32:46 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: roland cook Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Carrie Subject: Re: e-mail print command In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It *sounds* like Pine is sending data to your printer at a rate faster than it can cope with (ie, print out). This causes a backlog, which build up in the printer's internal memory buffer. When this becomes (nearly) full the printer attempts to tell the thing sending the data to stop for a while. This can be done in one of two ways (depending on your printer model, how it is configured, and the lead connecting it). Printers with a parallel printer interface often (but not always) use "hardware handshaking". This involves an extra wire which the printer uses to signal whether it accepted the last data character or not. The alternative is "software flow control". With this two special control characters are used to mean "stop sending data" and "resume sending data". These are invariably Ctrl/S and Ctrl/Q respectively. By default Pine does not honour these characters (if it did, and the user accidentally typed Ctrl/S on the keyboard Pine would appear to hang indefinitely -- actually until a Ctrl/Q were typed). However it is possible to tell Pine to honour them, and is what you should try in the first instance. You do this very simply: * Start Pine, and go to the Setup Configuration screen ("S" then "C" from the Main Menu). * Look for the feature called "preserve-start-stop-characters" and make sure it is selected (an "X" appears in the box next to it). * Exit from the Setup Configuration screen, locate a reasonably long message, and try printing it. Good luck! Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 12 Aug 1996, roland cook wrote: > > On my PC (486, 8 MB ram, Windows 3.1) Pine has worked extremely well until > recently on printing out e-mail from the screen. I currently use the > Windows Terminal utility program for e-mail. > > Now, when I use the command "Y" to print out an e-mail letter, if the > letter is about 1K bytes or less, Pine prints out the letter on "attached > desktop (ANSI) printer" with no faults. > > However if the letter exceeds about 1K in length, Pine stops displaying > the balance of the letter, but continues sending all screens that occur > following the aborted letter to the buffer from which the printer is > loaded in my PC, until I quit Pine. When I log off the host, the printer > prints out the part of the letter before it was aborted, plus all of the > screens transmitted to my PC after the partial letter. The buffer in my > PC for the printer shows perhaps 20K to 30K of material for printout, > while the entire letter may have been only 2K. > > I have discussed this with local manager, and looked at the debug files > for Pine, but have been unable to find any indication, except the word > "babble" in the debug file, which might refer to the difficulty. > > I have re-loaded Pine, with default settings, but this produces the same > results. > > Is there any way to diagnose this problem and correct it? > > Roland Cook > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 10:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05962; Mon, 12 Aug 96 10:09:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25739; Mon, 12 Aug 96 10:05:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25733; Mon, 12 Aug 96 10:05:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uq0Ob-00038BC; Mon, 12 Aug 96 10:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Alex Schwallbach Subject: Re: Arrow keys on Non-ANSI terminals Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 16:22:35 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4u6ghm$mvd@crl3.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I can't get Pine to draw the screen correctly on a Wyse 60. Everything works fine, except pine. When you get main menu, it doesn't show anything. However, as you hit the arrow keys to scroll, it shows the highlighted line and then when you go to the next line, it leaves the one behind... like it should. My question is how to I get pine to write to the screen properly. > > I just tried pine (unix 3.95) yesterday on a non ANSI terminal (wyse 150) > > and noticed that the arrow keys did not work in the main menu like > > they do with ANSI type terminals. > > Shouldn't it work? > > Are the arrow keys hard coded or does it get the info from the curses library? > > I've been using pine since var 3.91 and I just realized that's > > the first tim I tried it on a non ANSI terminal. > > Perhaps this is related: Ever since we went to 3.95 several of our users > report screen emulation problems that they had not had prior to 3.95. > There is no mention of screen changes in the update docs. 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Schwallbach On-Line Exchange, Inc. schale@ole.net 810-445-2133 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 11:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07940; Mon, 12 Aug 96 11:25:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15084; Mon, 12 Aug 96 11:21:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cascade.cascade.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15074; Mon, 12 Aug 96 11:21:38 -0700 Received: from localhost (rcook@localhost) by cascade.cascade.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA25666; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 11:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 11:16:17 -0700 (PDT) From: roland cook To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Carrie Subject: Re: e-mail print command In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 12 Aug 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > It *sounds* like Pine is sending data to your printer at a rate faster > than it can cope with (ie, print out). This causes a backlog, which build > up in the printer's internal memory buffer. First, thank you for your prompt reply and attention to this problem. Second, I have used Pine for about two years, with no problem at all. Several weeks ago the host found a defective telephone line that was causing many problems, apart from Pine, such as login, carrier drop, etc. On resuming use of Pine following this disaster, Pine now shows the symptoms I described. Third, I am apparently the only one on this host having this problem! This would point to my computer, although nothing has changed. I have checked all lines etc. On everything but the printout command Pine shows no other symptoms, except it was truncating various messages on the screen, overlapping other things, and generally misbehaving in minor ways. But it would export files, save, etc. all in good order. It will display everything on the screen also. Fourth, my terminal setting in windows is set for 300 lines, before loading into a buffer for printing (not the printer buffer) -- that is, lines, not bytes, about 24K bytes, in other words. Fifth, when I log out, the file in Windows has all the transmissions from Pine (every screen, command, etc. sent by the host to my screen) including the part of the letter that was aborted. In other words, the "Y" command successfully downloads the e-mail up to about 1K bytes on the screen and stops, but continues transmitting from there on into my computer, for printout when I sign off. There is no limit in any buffer in my computer that has shown up yet. Pine does not print out the aborted part of the letter until I sign off. > > When this becomes (nearly) full the printer attempts to tell the thing > sending the data to stop for a while. This can be done in one of two ways> (depending on your printer model, how it is configured, and the lead > connecting it). > > Printers with a parallel printer interface often (but not always) use > "hardware handshaking". This involves an extra wire which the printer > uses to signal whether it accepted the last data character or not. > > The alternative is "software flow control". With this two special control > characters are used to mean "stop sending data" and "resume sending data". > These are invariably Ctrl/S and Ctrl/Q respectively. > > By default Pine does not honour these characters (if it did, and the user > accidentally typed Ctrl/S on the keyboard Pine would appear to hang > indefinitely -- actually until a Ctrl/Q were typed). I have tried setting the X-on, X-off in the configurations settings for Pine and then when the letter aborts using ^Q (X-on) to no avail, And toggling between ^X and ^Q has no effect either. Of course Pine worked fine without all this prior to the recent discombobulation. > > However it is possible to tell Pine to honour them, and is what you should > try in the first instance. You do this very simply: > > * Start Pine, and go to the Setup Configuration screen ("S" then "C" from > the Main Menu). > > * Look for the feature called "preserve-start-stop-characters" and make > sure it is selected (an "X" appears in the box next to it). > > * Exit from the Setup Configuration screen, locate a reasonably long > message, and try printing it. > Yes, tried this as described above. Pine's default settings originally worked OK. > Good luck! > > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > On Mon, 12 Aug 1996, roland cook wrote: > > > > > On my PC (486, 8 MB ram, Windows 3.1) Pine has worked extremely well until > > recently on printing out e-mail from the screen. I currently use the > > Windows Terminal utility program for e-mail. > > > > Now, when I use the command "Y" to print out an e-mail letter, if the > > letter is about 1K bytes or less, Pine prints out the letter on "attached > > desktop (ANSI) printer" with no faults. > > > > However if the letter exceeds about 1K in length, Pine stops displaying > > the balance of the letter, but continues sending all screens that occur > > following the aborted letter to the buffer from which the printer is > > loaded in my PC, until I quit Pine. When I log off the host, the printer > > prints out the part of the letter before it was aborted, plus all of the > > screens transmitted to my PC after the partial letter. The buffer in my > > PC for the printer shows perhaps 20K to 30K of material for printout, > > while the entire letter may have been only 2K. > > > > I have discussed this with local manager, and looked at the debug files > > for Pine, but have been unable to find any indication, except the word > > "babble" in the debug file, which might refer to the difficulty. > > > > I have re-loaded Pine, with default settings, but this produces the same > > results. > > > > Is there any way to diagnose this problem and correct it? > > > > Roland Cook > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 12:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09415; Mon, 12 Aug 96 12:31:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16823; Mon, 12 Aug 96 12:26:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16813; Mon, 12 Aug 96 12:26:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uq2Z6-00038BC; Mon, 12 Aug 96 12:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: create_lu bug? Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 14:19:43 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII With pine 3.95 (linux precompiled binaries and DEC Alpha OSF (compiled locally), I have the following problem. The look-up file created with -create_lu and the look-up file created by interactive pine for the same address books are not the same (differ in the last two lines). Furthermore, pine does not seem to accept the one created by -create_lu as correct, so insists on rebuilding its own. This occured with the global addressbook. I haven't tested it with other (smaller) address books. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) /* I will not be reading mail from August 14 through September 1 */ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 13:54:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11488; Mon, 12 Aug 96 13:54:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02792; Mon, 12 Aug 96 13:51:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02786; Mon, 12 Aug 96 13:51:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uq3su-00038BC; Mon, 12 Aug 96 13:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thompson@orpheus.nascom.nasa.gov (William Thompson) Subject: Re: Fcc with #MH folders Date: 12 Aug 1996 20:25:39 GMT Message-Id: <4uo403$738@post.gsfc.nasa.gov> References: <3206684D.41C6@achilles.nascom.nasa.gov> George Dimitoglou writes: >I would like to know the trick for setting up a Fcc on Pine; The only >problem is that we are using #MH problems..Any thoughts on what to do? I think we've finally figured this trick out. Instead of setting default-fcc=saved-messages or using the default, one has to use default-fcc=#MH/saved-messages Bill Thompson From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 14:31:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12678; Mon, 12 Aug 96 14:31:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20175; Mon, 12 Aug 96 14:16:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20169; Mon, 12 Aug 96 14:16:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uq4Gv-00038BC; Mon, 12 Aug 96 14:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@hypathia.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Does Filter work with the Cc? Date: 12 Aug 1996 19:50:42 GMT Message-Id: References: <4uilas$rpe@news.ios.com> wriite@soho.ios.com (Bryan H.): > My .elm Filter works great on the To, From, or Subject lines, but > generates an error if I put Cc into the Filter-rules. The "to" field checks the "Cc:", too. Example: if (to contains foo) then delete Sven -- Sven Guckes guckes@math.fu-berlin.de [960812] ELM - the "Easy Learn Mail" program. Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm [sig.elm] For more info see the "ELM Pages": http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ Latest ELMME+ patch: ELM2.4ME+PL24 [960812] ELMME+ is based on ELM2.4PL24ME8b+ Latest ELM alpha: ELM2.5a10 [960509] ELM testers please check this! Latest ELM release: ELM2.4PL25 [951204] patch25 fixes security bug *only* Latest ELMPGP patch: ELMPGP6 [95????] "Supported". NOTE: ELMME+ patches have been posted to comp.mail.elm and alt.sources ! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 18:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16650; Mon, 12 Aug 96 18:13:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26125; Mon, 12 Aug 96 18:11:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pure.pure.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26119; Mon, 12 Aug 96 18:11:00 -0700 Received: from aloha.pure.com (aloha.pure.com [192.232.3.8]) by pure.pure.com (8.7.5/8.7.3/PURE) with SMTP id SAA21429; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 18:10:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by aloha.pure.com (5.x/CLIENT-1.0) id AA00357; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 18:10:46 -0700 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 18:10:46 -0700 (PDT) From: David Kafrissen To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: harrison@cs.wustl.edu Subject: lists my name and not sent to: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings, Some of the messages in my sent-mail folder when viewed show my name and not who they were sent to. Some messages when viewed show who they were sent to (which is the prefered behavior). I have looked at the messages in the Unix tool less and I can not see the difference between the two sets of messages. Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? This is very annoying! Thanks Dave From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 19:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17076; Mon, 12 Aug 96 19:00:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10365; Mon, 12 Aug 96 18:58:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10359; Mon, 12 Aug 96 18:58:08 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 13 Aug 96 10:02:47 +0800 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 09:55:32 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: Pine Info Subject: Feature Request ? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, On a reply to a message of which you are a Bcc receipient I feel it would be "nice" if pine could issue you a warning when asking if you want to "Reply to all recipients?". Maybe a 2 step process? 1. Acknowledge that you are aware of being Bcc'd: 2. Asked "Reply to all recipients?". Comments? ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 19:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17250; Mon, 12 Aug 96 19:18:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10623; Mon, 12 Aug 96 19:16:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10617; Mon, 12 Aug 96 19:16:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uq8y5-00038BC; Mon, 12 Aug 96 19:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: MATHER Subject: Configuring arrow keys Date: 12 Aug 1996 19:11:41 GMT Message-Id: <4unvld$c7c@test-sun.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am having trouble configuring the arrow keys in both pine and pico. Since the installation was so simple otherwaise, I have no idea how to fix this. Can anyone offer me some suggestions. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 22:22:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19035; Mon, 12 Aug 96 22:22:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29331; Mon, 12 Aug 96 22:19:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from redvax1.dgsca.unam.mx by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29324; Mon, 12 Aug 96 22:19:40 -0700 Received: from [132.248.134.101] by servidor.dgsca.unam.mx (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA11838; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 00:21:03 +0600 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 00:22:52 -0900 (PDT) From: "Rich Robins, ESQ." To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: pine@cac.washington.edu, pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu Subject: PLEASE help! X-Sender: richmex@servidor.unam.mx In-Reply-To: <9602011948.AA29061@shivams.cac.washington.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 763 Please HELP! To expedite a PINE file's storage into a new EUDORA program, I Renamed the entire file INBOX (because then I could access them directly into EUDORA). Strangely enough, the operation was performed but all its contents were deleted! I was never asked if I was sure I wanted to delete all 109 files. My lord, is there no way to recover them? INBOX (the original) still has the same, sole "read only" file it formerly had (as the original had already been saved in Eudora). Then the "other" INBOX, when observed to contain that same darned message, is no longer even in the directory! It, and those 109 important messages have seemingly vanished. Or have they? Please help, Rich Robins, ESQ. RichMex@servidor.unam.mx From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 22:28:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18969; Mon, 12 Aug 96 22:28:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13252; Mon, 12 Aug 96 22:26:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from redvax1.dgsca.unam.mx by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13246; Mon, 12 Aug 96 22:26:29 -0700 Received: from [132.248.134.101] by servidor.dgsca.unam.mx (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA13283; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 00:27:53 +0600 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 00:29:42 -0900 (PDT) From: "Rich Robins, ESQ." To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PLEASE help! BUG report, it seems X-Sender: richmex@servidor.unam.mx Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1024 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 00:22:52 -0900 (PDT) From: Rich Robins, ESQ. To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: pine@cac.washington.edu, pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu Subject: PLEASE help! Please HELP! To expedite a PINE file's storage into a new EUDORA program, I Renamed the entire file INBOX (because then I could access them directly into EUDORA). Strangely enough, the operation was performed but all its contents were deleted! I was never asked if I was sure I wanted to delete all 109 files. My lord, is there no way to recover them? INBOX (the original) still has the same, sole "read only" file it formerly had (as the original had already been saved in Eudora). Then the "other" INBOX, when observed to contain that same darned message, is no longer even in the directory! It, and those 109 important messages have seemingly vanished. Or have they? Please help, Rich Robins, ESQ. RichMex@servidor.unam.mx From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 23:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19491; Mon, 12 Aug 96 23:25:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13931; Mon, 12 Aug 96 23:23:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from talabah.iiu.my by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13912; Mon, 12 Aug 96 23:22:26 -0700 Received: (from 9530820@localhost) by talabah.iiu.my (8.7.4/8.7.3) id OAA15441; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 14:25:27 +0800 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 14:25:26 +0800 (SGT) From: Rosli Ishak <9530820@talabah.iiu.my> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: questions about news collections Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to ask you about the news collections. How could I get in touch with the news collection groups and how could I get their adresses. I'm eager to get in touch with them and I hope you could help me. Lastly, if you don't mind, please list down the news collection goups' name and their adresses. Your co-operation is highly appreciated. Thank You. Bye. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 00:05:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19798; Tue, 13 Aug 96 00:05:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14416; Tue, 13 Aug 96 00:02:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vigrid.cfar.umd.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14410; Tue, 13 Aug 96 00:02:21 -0700 Received: from localhost by vigrid.cfar.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id DAA14841; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 03:02:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 03:02:09 -0400 (EDT) From: ADAM Sulmicki To: Pine Info Subject: Re: Feature Request ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII An suggestion, it would be nice to be able to select filters to incoming email as we can select filters to outgoing email. This could be useful, for example, when there is an pgp signed email in inbox, but you don't have the pgp key for the email. The result is that there appears no mail at all. -Adam From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 00:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19940; Tue, 13 Aug 96 00:12:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00726; Tue, 13 Aug 96 00:07:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00720; Tue, 13 Aug 96 00:07:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqDWR-00038BC; Tue, 13 Aug 96 00:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Alvin Brinson Subject: Re: [Q]: Follow ups Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 09:19:09 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 11 Aug 1996, Matt Chatterley wrote: > Is there an easy (or relatively easy) way to set "follow-up-to" in a news > post using pine? If there is, I can't find it.. a slot in the headers > (rich headers - ^R) was all that occured to me.. and I couldn't see > anything there.. would I need to set something in complex-headers? This is not the most elegant solution, but will work: on the ABSOLUTE FIRST line of your post, put "Follow-up-to: wherever" without the quotes. wherever= whatever you want that to be. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <-> Insert Witty Saying Here <-> elfren@sccsi.com <-> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 00:20:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19958; Tue, 13 Aug 96 00:20:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14617; Tue, 13 Aug 96 00:17:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14611; Tue, 13 Aug 96 00:17:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqDgl-00038BC; Tue, 13 Aug 96 00:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: Attachments in Pine from other Mail servers Date: 13 Aug 1996 00:40:39 -0500 Message-Id: <4up4gn$g94@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article , Ed Greshko wrote: > On Tue, 6 Aug 1996 afrotc@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU wrote: > > > How do you extract or save attachments sent to you from other mail > > servers. Example, I often get "ENCODED" documents (MS WORD) that require > > "UUDECODE" to extract? How is this done?? > > Under "normal" conditions and if you are running on a U*IX system > you can use the "|" pipe command (needs to be enabled in the config...) > and pipe (pass) the contents of the message body to a uudecode program. For other types of encoding, `mpack' and `munpack' are useful tools to have. ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/mpack Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 02:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20180; Tue, 13 Aug 96 02:47:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16262; Tue, 13 Aug 96 02:42:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16256; Tue, 13 Aug 96 02:42:14 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 13 Aug 1996 10:40:00 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA26991; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 10:41:57 +0100 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 10:41:55 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Alvin Brinson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Q]: Follow ups In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Before saying anything further let me say that I have not tried this but... I *really* expect this NOT to work (at least with Pine). Pine's message composition screen maintains two distinct areas: one for header information, one for the message text. When these are combined, just before passing to sendmail (or whatever) for delivery the headers are properly formatted *and a blank line placed after them* before the message text itself is included. The blank line signifies to mail delivery software that the headers have ended, and that what follows is message text. Thus it is impossible using this model to add a header by including it as the first line of your message body text. (By the way, the proper name of the field in question is "Followup-to:") Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sun, 11 Aug 1996, Alvin Brinson wrote: > On Sun, 11 Aug 1996, Matt Chatterley wrote: > > > Is there an easy (or relatively easy) way to set "follow-up-to" in a news > > post using pine? If there is, I can't find it.. a slot in the headers > > (rich headers - ^R) was all that occured to me.. and I couldn't see > > anything there.. would I need to set something in complex-headers? > > This is not the most elegant solution, but will work: > on the ABSOLUTE FIRST line of your post, put "Follow-up-to: wherever" > without the quotes. wherever= whatever you want that to be. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > <-> Insert Witty Saying Here <-> elfren@sccsi.com <-> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 03:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21294; Tue, 13 Aug 96 03:41:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03038; Tue, 13 Aug 96 03:38:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.germany.eu.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03032; Tue, 13 Aug 96 03:38:12 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59:24/EUnetD-2.5.4.c) via EUnet id MAA21097; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 12:37:58 +0200 Message-Id: <199608131035.MAA06871@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id MAA06871; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 12:35:31 +0200 From: Rudolf Kompf Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 11:31:03 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: kompf@m_post.ife-le.de To: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Max. size of attachments Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, friends, is there any bound for the size of an attachment to send? Is the bound configurable? We can't send a 2,7 Mbytes binary file neither in one attachment nor divided in 2 attachments (in one mail). Pine 3.92 writes the message "File too long". I would appreciate your help. Rudolf ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 04:15:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21434; Tue, 13 Aug 96 04:15:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03580; Tue, 13 Aug 96 04:13:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03574; Tue, 13 Aug 96 04:13:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqHNu-00038TC; Tue, 13 Aug 96 04:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tony Gualtieri Subject: pine 3.91 under IRIX 5.3 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 13:48:15 -0400 Message-Id: <320F6E5F.41C6@daac.gsfc.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like to know if anyone has installed pine 3.91 under IRIX 5.3. If so, could you send me details on what build or makefile modification are necessary. Thanks, Tony Gualtieri ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- J. Anthony Gualtieri gualt@daac.gsfc.nasa.gov Goddard DAAC, Code 902.2 Phone: (301) 614-5283 !!NEW as of 8/3/96 !! NASA/GSFC Fax: (301) 614-5268 !!NEW as of 8/3/96 !! Greenbelt, MD 20771 DAAC URL: http://daac.gsfc.nasa.gov/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 08:25:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22722; Tue, 13 Aug 96 08:25:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21210; Tue, 13 Aug 96 08:19:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from corsa.nchu.edu.tw by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21204; Tue, 13 Aug 96 08:19:53 -0700 Received: by corsa (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA06658; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 23:08:43 +0800 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 23:08:39 +0800 (CST) From: 6@+33S To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help!!!! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT hello Thank you for your letter, after read your letter ,I can't use the pine either, so i send this letter to you my trouble is 1) How to use the config in pine 2) Hhow to set up the news group Thank you very much stevensen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 08:26:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24652; Tue, 13 Aug 96 08:26:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07594; Tue, 13 Aug 96 08:22:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sva.slu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07585; Tue, 13 Aug 96 08:22:31 -0700 Received: from SLUVCA.SLU.EDU by SLUVCA.SLU.EDU (PMDF V5.0-7 #5070) id <01I882DI8WHY95RVVI@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU>; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 10:20:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 10:20:31 -0600 (CST) From: afrotc@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU Subject: Re: Attachments in Pine from other Mail servers In-Reply-To: To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Thanks for the info, but I'm not real proficient in working with Pine pipe commands. Could you give me an example of the syntax used on the UNIX. On Mon, 12 Aug 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Tue, 6 Aug 1996 afrotc@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU wrote: > > > How do you extract or save attachments sent to you from other mail > > servers. Example, I often get "ENCODED" documents (MS WORD) that require > > "UUDECODE" to extract? How is this done?? > > Under "normal" conditions and if you are running on a U*IX system > you can use the "|" pipe command (needs to be enabled in the config...) > and pipe (pass) the contents of the message body to a uudecode program. > > Regards, > > Ed > > ----- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 09:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26036; Tue, 13 Aug 96 09:30:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09814; Tue, 13 Aug 96 09:27:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09806; Tue, 13 Aug 96 09:27:11 -0700 Received: from grizzly by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA24281; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 09:27:09 -0700 Message-Id: <9608131627.AA24281@asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca> From: brian@asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca Date: Tue, 13 Aug 96 09:26:13 -0700 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Attachments in Pine from other Mail servers In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.05 (Unregistered) Hi, On 08/13/96 at 10:20 AM, you said: >Thanks for the info, but I'm not real proficient in working with Pine pipe >commands. Could you give me an example of the syntax used on the UNIX. simply when reading the message, press the "|" key, then type in "uudecode" This will result in the file being created in your present directory. B. -- "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe...Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion...I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tan Hauser Gate...all these moments will be lost..like tears in the rain." - Roy Batty, in Bladerunner Brian P. Hampson ASL Analytical Service Laboratories Ltd System Administrator, Vancouver, BC (604)253-4188 ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/----------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 11:10:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28831; Tue, 13 Aug 96 11:10:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13010; Tue, 13 Aug 96 11:07:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13004; Tue, 13 Aug 96 11:07:44 -0700 Received: from homer03.u.washington.edu by jason05.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20222; Tue, 13 Aug 96 11:05:58 -0700 Received: from localhost by homer03.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA70031; Tue, 13 Aug 96 11:07:44 -0700 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 11:07:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Barbara Schwartz To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: print bug Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have had a terrible time printing from Pine, UWin, etc. The computer sooner or later gets frozen, even though I have done nothing wrong, so far as I can tell. If there is a way to avoid crashing my computer again and again, I would be very happy to hear it. This is very time-consuming. The most recent occurrence was this morning, when I accessed an old "sent mail" and printed it out. The capture never went off, the computer would not respond, I had to reboot. Please help. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 11:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29157; Tue, 13 Aug 96 11:21:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26823; Tue, 13 Aug 96 11:19:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26811; Tue, 13 Aug 96 11:19:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqNzg-00038BC; Tue, 13 Aug 96 11:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbdavis@osbm9.osbm.state.nc.us (John Davis) Subject: IMAP - Bad Login User Name Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 16:35:37 GMT I'm trying to help a new ISP debug their IMAP setup. They have the IMAP daemon defined in inetd.conf properly. When I try to login to the IMAP server using PC-Pine, I get a message saying "Bad Login User Name and/or Password". I can telnet to the server with no problems and POP mail off the server works fine, all with the same login ID and password I'm trying to use for IMAP. Any ideas why IMAP wouldn't like the ID and/or password? =========================================================== John Davis jbdavis@osbm9.osbm.state.nc.us/jbdavis@pobox.com http://www.webbuild.com/~jbdavis/ =========================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 11:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29151; Tue, 13 Aug 96 11:21:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13312; Tue, 13 Aug 96 11:19:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13306; Tue, 13 Aug 96 11:19:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqO3I-00038TC; Tue, 13 Aug 96 11:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: pine 3.91 under IRIX 5.3 Date: 13 Aug 1996 13:18:39 -0500 Message-Id: <4uqgu0$105@marita.cs.utexas.edu> References: <320F6E5F.41C6@daac.gsfc.nasa.gov> [ Tony Gualtieri wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] -> I would like to know if anyone has installed pine 3.91 under IRIX 5.3. -> If so, could you send me details on what build or makefile modification -> are necessary. I did. I installed 3.91, 3.92 and 3.95. The compilation is pretty easy do a "./build clean ; ./build sgi" and the binary will be in the bin directory. One good way to build pine is to figure out your os and machine name by looking in the pine/osdep directory and then doing a "build xxx" where xxx is the os-xxx.h corrosponds to the name and of of the machines. More info available at "http://www.cs.utexas.edu/pub/docs/pine/index.html" Ananda From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 12:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30550; Tue, 13 Aug 96 12:19:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28411; Tue, 13 Aug 96 12:14:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28405; Tue, 13 Aug 96 12:13:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqOtg-00038BC; Tue, 13 Aug 96 12:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Alan.Thew@liverpool.ac.uk (Alan Thew) Subject: Re: pine3.95 hangs (3.93 does not) Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 19:05:28 GMT I forgot to point out that I'm using the MH drivers. Things look fine with the berkeley driver on the same mail item. In article , Alan.Thew@liverpool.ac.uk says... > >I've just tried upgrading to pine 3.95 from 3.93. 3.93 has been reliable >and stable etc. The message that it hangs on has the following format. >pine 3.93 is fine but 3.95 just shows the "busy" indicator and no other >activity until I kill it. This is on SunOS4 . The amount of text is small. > >Thanks. > >Message-ID: >Priority: Normal >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY=Part9608130950A > >--Part9608130950A >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > >[some text] > > >--Part9608130950A >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; name="file.dos" > >[more text] > >--Part9608130950A > >-- >Alan Thew >alan.thew@liv.ac.uk ...!uknet!liv!alan.thew Tel: +44 151 794-4497 >University of Liverpool, Computing Services Fax: +44 151 794-4442 > -- Alan Thew alan.thew@liv.ac.uk ...!uknet!liv!alan.thew Tel: +44 151 794-4497 University of Liverpool, Computing Services Fax: +44 151 794-4442 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 12:38:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30944; Tue, 13 Aug 96 12:38:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15456; Tue, 13 Aug 96 12:34:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15450; Tue, 13 Aug 96 12:34:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqP9T-00038BC; Tue, 13 Aug 96 12:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhd@Radix.Net (Joseph Davidson) Subject: Convert addresses between Pine, Eudora, Netscape Date: 13 Aug 1996 19:21:19 GMT Message-Id: <4uqkjf$4ku@news1.radix.net> I have Web pages to convert the mailing lists between mailers. Eudora to Netscape Pine to Eudora Eudora to Pine Pine to Netscape You can find links to these scripts at the bottom of my Web page at www.interguru.com -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Davidson Ph.D. InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting Computer and Network Consulting, Win 95 and Mac 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 12:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31109; Tue, 13 Aug 96 12:48:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29272; Tue, 13 Aug 96 12:44:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29266; Tue, 13 Aug 96 12:44:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqPKU-00038BC; Tue, 13 Aug 96 12:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: flong@sgi73.wwb.noaa.gov (Fred S Long) Subject: Re: pine 3.91 under IRIX 5.3 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 10:03:26 -0400 Message-Id: References: <320F6E5F.41C6@daac.gsfc.nasa.gov> <4upvks$57d@babbage.ece.uc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I just installed 3.95 on IRIX using the "build clean" then "build sgi" commands per the README in the dox. Im not a programmer (any more) and wouldnt have a clue about what to do if Id gotten an error message. YMMV ..... but FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS In article <4upvks$57d@babbage.ece.uc.edu>, jie.yuan@uc.edu wrote: > In article <320F6E5F.41C6@daac.gsfc.nasa.gov>, > Tony Gualtieri writes: > >I would like to know if anyone has installed pine 3.91 under IRIX 5.3. > >If so, could you send me details on what build or makefile modification > >are necessary. > > I have compiled Pine under Irix 5.3 from 3.91 to 3.95. I cannot remember > exactly what the command was, but it was the one mentioned in Pine > instructions. I think it was "build sgi". If it is wrong, you can do a > "build help" to see which spelling is right. > > You should consider 3.95 instead of 3.91. There are some new features > since 3.92. > > Cheers! > > Jie > -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- > == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == > == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == > == finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu for my PGP pub. key= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 14:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00133; Tue, 13 Aug 96 14:07:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id OAA18131 for pine-info-out; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 14:04:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id OAA18126 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 14:04:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqQZn-00038BC; Tue, 13 Aug 96 14:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: anguye3@umbc.edu (Little_Anh) Subject: pine menu default Date: 12 Aug 1996 14:53:17 GMT Message-Id: <4unggt$h1r@news.umbc.edu> I'm having problem with the new pine 3.95 with the defult start menu. When I type "pine" on a unix system the defult menu slection is on "L FOLDER LIST". I want to change the defult menu slection to be on "I FOLDER INDEX". I tried a number of things like setting the initial-keystock-list file( this screws up the Control-keys in to function key) I also tried "pine -I up" function. This ignores the initial-key-list file. Please help.... Kevin Chen e-mail to: chen@arctic.nadn.navy.mil From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 14:54:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01248; Tue, 13 Aug 96 14:54:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id OAA19283 for pine-info-out; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 14:50:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from phantom.cac.washington.edu (phantom.cac.washington.edu [140.142.110.47]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id OAA19278 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 14:50:47 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by phantom.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.07) with SMTP id OAA24298; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 14:50:44 -0700 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 14:50:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: John Davis Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP - Bad Login User Name In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII John, Don't know if this is what you're experiencing or not, but some versions of imapd don't like certain special characters in passwords. I'm not sure which characters, nor which code this is fixed in, though. You could try an acct with a simple password to determine if this is the cause. -teg On Tue, 13 Aug 1996, John Davis wrote: > > I'm trying to help a new ISP debug their IMAP setup. They have the IMAP > daemon defined in inetd.conf properly. When I try to login to the IMAP server > using PC-Pine, I get a message saying "Bad Login User Name and/or Password". > I can telnet to the server with no problems and POP mail off the server works > fine, all with the same login ID and password I'm trying to use for IMAP. Any > ideas why IMAP wouldn't like the ID and/or password? > > =========================================================== > John Davis jbdavis@osbm9.osbm.state.nc.us/jbdavis@pobox.com > http://www.webbuild.com/~jbdavis/ > =========================================================== > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 16:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03484; Tue, 13 Aug 96 16:37:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA05235 for pine-info-out; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 16:34:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA05230 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 16:34:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqSwF-00038TC; Tue, 13 Aug 96 16:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: MATHER Subject: Arrow keys not working properly Date: 13 Aug 1996 18:12:02 GMT Message-Id: <4uqghi$8km@test-sun.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My arrow keys are not working properly, and since the installation otherwise was no problem, I have no idea how to fix this. Can anyone offer any suggestions, PLEASE! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 16:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03867; Tue, 13 Aug 96 16:57:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA22072 for pine-info-out; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 16:54:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA22067 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 16:54:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqTH3-00038BC; Tue, 13 Aug 96 16:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Memory Leak? Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 16:49:53 -0700 Message-Id: References: <4uosff$lmu@raffles.technet.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4uosff$lmu@raffles.technet.sg> We don't know of any significant memory leaks in Pine 3.95. What alternate editor are you using and what is the system load like when this occurs? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 13 Aug 1996, Ng Pheng Siong wrote: > From: Ng Pheng Siong > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Memory Leak? > Date: 13 Aug 1996 03:23:27 GMT > Organization: Pacific Internet, Singapore > Message-ID: <4uosff$lmu@raffles.technet.sg> > NNTP-Posting-Host: darkwing.pacific.net.sg > X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 960808] > > Hi, > > Am using Pine 3.95 (gso), typical INBOX size is 9MB. Every now and then, > 'compose' or 'reply' says "Cannot fork editor: not enough space" or words > to that effect. Is this a memory leak? > > TIA. Cheers. > > -- > Ng Pheng Siong * Finger for PGP key. > Pacific Internet Pte Ltd * Singapore > > Fast, secure, cheap. Pick two. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 20:24:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06146; Tue, 13 Aug 96 20:24:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09115; Tue, 13 Aug 96 20:20:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09107; Tue, 13 Aug 96 20:20:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqWUD-00038BC; Tue, 13 Aug 96 20:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeff Russo <74452.2306@CompuServe.COM> Subject: ??putting reply after original text Date: 14 Aug 1996 03:02:53 GMT Message-Id: <4urfku$kta$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com> when I reply to a message, Pine always places the text of my reply before the original document's text. I would like the text of the original document to be first...how can I do this? Jeff Russo 74452.2306@compuserve.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 20:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06400; Tue, 13 Aug 96 20:55:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25946; Tue, 13 Aug 96 20:50:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25940; Tue, 13 Aug 96 20:50:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqWxm-00038BC; Tue, 13 Aug 96 20:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cyhsu@tpts1.seed.net.tw (PC_USER) Subject: Save mail without headers, how??? Date: 14 Aug 1996 03:42:50 GMT Message-Id: <4urhvq$asn@voyager.iii.org.tw> I would like to use pine to save mail without the header messages. How could I do it? Thanks. Jun-ming From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 21:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06707; Tue, 13 Aug 96 21:27:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09871; Tue, 13 Aug 96 21:25:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09861; Tue, 13 Aug 96 21:25:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqXR6-00038BC; Tue, 13 Aug 96 21:20 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: howarth@princeton.edu (William Howarth) Subject: Re: Convert addresses between Eudora, Netscape, Lotus Notes Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 20:37:38 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4to8vp$3u0@news1.radix.net> <4uiq52$1dk@pbinews.snfc21.pacbell.net> > Looked at Joseph's web page. I actually need to go from Netscape to > Eudora and Lotus Notes to Eudora.j > > Any clues? > > Clyde Check out the latest version of Eudora, 3.0 which makes direct links to Web URLs. Also, Now Up-to-Date 3.6 lets you list both e-mail addresses and URLs; when you click on them, Netscape launches and completes the link. Hence you can use the best features of your browser, e-mail, and PIM. I think that the latest Claris E-Mailer also provides these links. -- William Howarth Princeton University howarth@princeton.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 23:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07656; Tue, 13 Aug 96 23:48:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28358; Tue, 13 Aug 96 23:45:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28352; Tue, 13 Aug 96 23:45:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqZek-00038TC; Tue, 13 Aug 96 23:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Alan.Thew@liverpool.ac.uk (Alan Thew) Subject: pine3.95 hangs (3.93 does not) Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 09:59:17 GMT I've just tried upgrading to pine 3.95 from 3.93. 3.93 has been reliable and stable etc. The message that it hangs on has the following format. pine 3.93 is fine but 3.95 just shows the "busy" indicator and no other activity until I kill it. This is on SunOS4 . The amount of text is small. Thanks. Message-ID: Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY=Part9608130950A --Part9608130950A Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII [some text] --Part9608130950A Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; name="file.dos" [more text] --Part9608130950A -- Alan Thew alan.thew@liv.ac.uk ...!uknet!liv!alan.thew Tel: +44 151 794-4497 University of Liverpool, Computing Services Fax: +44 151 794-4442 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 01:11:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07088; Wed, 14 Aug 96 01:11:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29524; Wed, 14 Aug 96 01:07:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29518; Wed, 14 Aug 96 01:07:05 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:04:48 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA18079; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:06:48 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:06:48 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Jeff Russo <74452.2306@CompuServe.COM> Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ??putting reply after original text In-Reply-To: <4urfku$kta$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Try being brave enough to use the Setup (S) command at Pine's Main Menu, followed by Configuration (C). This takes you to a wonderful screen where you can configure lots of options which control Pine's behaviour. Have a look through them -- they all have contaxt-sensitive help (just put your cursor on them and type a "?"). Look at "signature-at-bottom" in particular. By the way, the reasoning behind Pine's default behaviour is that your reply is (hopefully) the important content of the message you are about to send, not the previous text (which is for memory-jogging/context only). Thus by putting the text of your reply at the beginning it is immediately accessible by the recipient, saving them from having to wade through reams of old text to get to your response. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 14 Aug 1996, Jeff Russo wrote: > when I reply to a message, Pine always places the text of my > reply before the original document's text. I would like the text > of the original document to be first...how can I do this? > Jeff Russo > 74452.2306@compuserve.com > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 02:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08068; Wed, 14 Aug 96 02:04:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13695; Wed, 14 Aug 96 02:02:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13689; Wed, 14 Aug 96 02:02:06 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 14 Aug 96 17:06:45 +0800 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 16:59:27 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: PC_USER Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Save mail without headers, how??? In-Reply-To: <4urhvq$asn@voyager.iii.org.tw> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 14 Aug 1996, PC_USER wrote: > I would like to use pine to save mail without the header messages. > How could I do it? You could use E(xport) to achive your goal. Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 03:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09489; Wed, 14 Aug 96 03:25:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14613; Wed, 14 Aug 96 03:20:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14607; Wed, 14 Aug 96 03:20:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqczp-00038BC; Wed, 14 Aug 96 03:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wriite@soho.ios.com (Bryan H.) Subject: Re: Does Filter work with the Cc? Date: 13 Aug 1996 17:32:51 GMT Message-Id: <4uqe83$c6@news.ios.com> References: <4uilas$rpe@news.ios.com> >The "to" field checks the "Cc:", too. >Example: > if (to contains foo) then delete Maybe my settings are wrong, as one particular mail list is filtered great if it is in the To line, but does not get filtered at all (and thus goes into the Inbox) when it is in the Cc line. Bryan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 04:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09694; Wed, 14 Aug 96 04:03:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01890; Wed, 14 Aug 96 04:00:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01884; Wed, 14 Aug 96 04:00:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqddI-00038BC; Wed, 14 Aug 96 03:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI (Holger Lillqvist) Subject: Automate saving to folders? Date: 14 Aug 1996 10:47:06 GMT Message-Id: <4usara$l04@oravannahka.Helsinki.FI> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I save mail from persons a, b, c etc in their respective folders. Can I automate this so that, having read my new mail, upon exiting pine, mail from these senders are saved in their proper folders and marked deleted in the inbox? Are programs like filter or procmail of any use for this purpose? Pine version is 394. -- hl From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 04:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09639; Wed, 14 Aug 96 04:23:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15505; Wed, 14 Aug 96 04:20:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15499; Wed, 14 Aug 96 04:20:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqdwE-00038BC; Wed, 14 Aug 96 04:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sin wei Subject: Name not reflected Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 19:03:13 +0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How can i make my name reflected on the newsgroup (i.e. 2nd column)? I can't get it done and it always give me [To: Newsgroup] instead of my name. Please email to me personally, thanks! Sin wei {eng50265@nus.leonis.sg} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 04:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09347; Wed, 14 Aug 96 04:58:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02706; Wed, 14 Aug 96 04:55:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02700; Wed, 14 Aug 96 04:55:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqeVg-00038BC; Wed, 14 Aug 96 04:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dave@mathworks.com (Dave Pascoe) Subject: X-Face support in Pine? Date: 14 Aug 1996 11:49:54 GMT Message-Id: <4useh2$4fl@turing.mathworks.com> Has anyone hacked X-Face support into Pine? Please respond via email.... I'll summarize. -- Dave Pascoe dave@mathworks.com http://www.mathworks.com KM3T 508-647-7362 FAX: 508-647-7002 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 06:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10771; Wed, 14 Aug 96 06:47:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17194; Wed, 14 Aug 96 06:39:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from po2.wam.umd.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17188; Wed, 14 Aug 96 06:39:36 -0700 Received: from rac5.wam.umd.edu (rac5.wam.umd.edu [128.8.70.105]) by po2.wam.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09857 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:39:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (gmolina@localhost) by rac5.wam.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA02833 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:39:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac5.wam.umd.edu: gmolina owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:39:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Gustavo Molina To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am trying to open my inbox but th computer is not letting me do it. I am getting a message saying :can't open inbox. What should I do? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 07:03:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10728; Wed, 14 Aug 96 07:03:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17427; Wed, 14 Aug 96 06:56:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17421; Wed, 14 Aug 96 06:56:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqgPZ-00038BC; Wed, 14 Aug 96 06:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: MATHER Subject: Domain name incomplete, etc etc etc Date: 13 Aug 1996 18:05:02 GMT Message-Id: <4uqg4e$8km@test-sun.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I enter pine, I get an error message saying domain name incomplete, messages may not be received correctly or something like that. I am fairly certain that this is because I am not on the net, and the only name we have right now is the UNIX box name. How do I disable this erro message? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 07:05:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10974; Wed, 14 Aug 96 07:05:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04238; Wed, 14 Aug 96 06:57:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [199.0.71.15] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04232; Wed, 14 Aug 96 06:57:24 -0700 Received: from joannes.rounder.com (joannes.rounder.com [199.0.71.105]) by rounder.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA28962 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:57:41 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:55:45 -0400 () From: "Jo Anne T. Spreen" To: Pine-Info Mailing List Subject: My tree ain't green!!! Message-Id: X-X-Sender: joannes@rounder.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just yesterday, we upgraded our PC's from PC-PINE 3.92 to 3.95. One complaint we have been getting from our users is that the tree won't go back to being green after reading new messages. (You know, when minimized the tree turns red if a new message comes in...) Apparently, it turned back to green in the 3.92 version. I'm not sure what 3.93 and 3.94 did, but 3.95 will stay red unless they completely close out of PC-PINE. Here in our IS department, we are running Win95, so the 3.95 update works great (puts a tree in the systray when a new message arrives if pine is minimized). Is this colorful tree a bug or what? I just want to let my users know whether this is supposed to be like this, or not. If it is a Pine-bug or something, I can give them the explanation that we'll need to wait for the next update. My boss is on my back on this one. Anyone have ideas or suggestions? I really appreciate any help. Thanks. --------------------- Jo Anne Spreen IS Support Personnel Rounder Records 617-354-0700 ext. 205 --------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 08:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13005; Wed, 14 Aug 96 08:20:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18978; Wed, 14 Aug 96 08:10:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet4.afn.org by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18969; Wed, 14 Aug 96 08:09:56 -0700 Received: from localhost (afn48623@localhost) by freenet4.afn.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA09984 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 11:09:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: freenet4.afn.org: afn48623 owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 11:09:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel W. Kelker" To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello. My name is Daniel Kelker. I want to know is my pine program unix or pc(?). And what are the nomal configuration settings for: "incoming-arcives -folders" , "pruned-folders", and "defalt-fcc". sincerly, Daniel Kelker From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 08:47:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11783; Wed, 14 Aug 96 08:47:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06624; Wed, 14 Aug 96 08:41:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06618; Wed, 14 Aug 96 08:41:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqi31-00038TC; Wed, 14 Aug 96 08:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: User of ELM's "filter" - please switch to procmail! Date: 14 Aug 1996 13:52:51 GMT Message-Id: References: <4uilas$rpe@news.ios.com> <4uqe83$c6@news.ios.com> wriite@soho.ios.com (Bryan H.): > >The "to" field checks the "Cc:", too. > >Example: > > if (to contains foo) then delete > Maybe my settings are wrong, as one particular mail list is filtered > great if it is in the To line, but does not get filtered at all > (and thus goes into the Inbox) when it is in the Cc line. ELM's filter has a bug with this as it only checks "Cc:" but not "cc:". A patch is available on page http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/patches/#filter This must be the 1000th time I am posting this. And ELM's filter is dropped by the developers, anyway. Folks - please use procmail! It has better support. Even though the siyntax for filter rules are not as nice as with ELM's filter. If you still want to use ELM's filter then PLEASE read the page http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/elm.filter.html Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 08:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13922; Wed, 14 Aug 96 08:50:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20006; Wed, 14 Aug 96 08:45:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from intfw.bear.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20000; Wed, 14 Aug 96 08:45:51 -0700 Received: by intfw.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25810; Wed, 14 Aug 96 11:45:40 EDT Received: from fastbear(165.168.74.3) by intfw via smap (V1.3) id sma025068; Wed Aug 14 11:39:11 1996 Received: from ursa2.bear.com by fastbear.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/1.0 AMR 12/15/94) id AA13530; Wed, 14 Aug 96 11:39:54 EDT Received: from whip_xfr.bear.com (whip-xfr) by ursa2.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/AMR+DJMS(2)) id AA00869; Wed, 14 Aug 96 11:40:05 EDT Received: from warlock.bsnet by whip_xfr.bear.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA24928; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 11:39:32 -0400 Received: from tiberius.bsnet by warlock.bsnet (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA00551; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 11:39:32 -0400 Received: from localhost by tiberius.bsnet (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA26668; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 11:39:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 11:39:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard G. Roberto" Reply-To: richr@bear.com To: pine mailing list Subject: hiding a distribution list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can anyone explain this to me? I checked the pine archives and I took tha advise of past posts. I put a bogus entry in the To: field like so: distribution list :; ^^ here's the magical incantaion, right? and then added recipients to the Lcc: field. It seems that it made it out to the recipient sites OK, but they couldn't deal with the To: user supplied (i.e. the incantation). What did I do wrong? What does that ":;" do anyway? Where can I read up on this in some detail? By the way, I'm using Pine3.94 precompiled Solaris 2.x binary. Thanks in advance. Richard G. Roberto richr@bear.com 201-739-2886 - whippany, nj -- ******************************************************************************* Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. ******************************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14860; Wed, 14 Aug 96 09:42:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08125; Wed, 14 Aug 96 09:36:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from knuth.mtsu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08119; Wed, 14 Aug 96 09:36:44 -0700 Received: from localhost by knuth.mtsu.edu with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #15) id m0uqiwS-000CwcC; Wed, 14 Aug 96 11:37 CDT Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 11:37:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "Hiram Lester Jr." To: Pine Info List Subject: Re: Domain name incomplete, etc etc etc In-Reply-To: <4uqg4e$8km@test-sun.erols.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 13 Aug 1996, MATHER wrote: > When I enter pine, I get an error message saying domain name incomplete, > messages may not be received correctly or something like that. I am > fairly certain that this is because I am not on the net, and the only > name we have right now is the UNIX box name. How do I disable this erro > message? I saw this error message for the first time when I upgraded from 3.91 to 3.93. From the main menu, choose S)etup and then C)onfiguration. Right near the top you will see a setting for user-domain. Set this to the domain name. The machine that I had this happen with was homer.csc.tntech.edu. When sending mail to someone on the local system, the addresses always came out somebody@homer, so I set user-domain to csc.tntech.edu, and all addresses come out as somebody@homer.csc.tntech.edu and no more warning message. :) +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Hiram W. Lester, Jr. | E-Mail: hwlester@pobox.com | | Computer Science | Homepage: | | Middle Tennessee State University | http://pobox.com/~hwlester/ | +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 10:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15776; Wed, 14 Aug 96 10:21:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22602; Wed, 14 Aug 96 10:17:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.kitsap.lib.wa.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22596; Wed, 14 Aug 96 10:17:23 -0700 Received: from linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us (linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us [198.187.135.22]) by mail.kitsap.lib.wa.us (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA27848; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 10:24:43 -0700 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 10:16:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Schuyler To: Gustavo Molina Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, Gustavo Molina wrote: > I am trying to open my inbox but th computer is not letting me do it. I am > getting a message saying :can't open inbox. What should I do? > Contact your systems administrator. o o o o o o o . . . _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | Kitsap Regional | | LinkNet Support | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | Library | | 'least we try! | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|____________________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ============================================================================ Support: (360) 405-9131 Fax:(360) 405-9128 support@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us Michael Schuyler: Voice:(360) 405-9139 michael@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 11:36:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17114; Wed, 14 Aug 96 11:36:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24659; Wed, 14 Aug 96 11:31:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24653; Wed, 14 Aug 96 11:31:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqkhM-00038BC; Wed, 14 Aug 96 11:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Adam H. Kerman" Subject: Re: Save mail without headers, how??? Date: 14 Aug 1996 14:27:16 -0400 Message-Id: <19960814142712.aaaa004dG@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> References: <19960814142713.baaa004dG@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> No, that won't work. To save the text without the headers, use the View command. This will bring up the message viewer index. A message without attachments has one part, the body. Then, use the Save command, to name a file to save the message to. If you want to save all the headers, enable the "display full headers" feature in the configuration file. Then, view the message and issue the Headers command. Then, Export the message to a file you name. On 14 Aug 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > From: Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com (Ed Greshko) > Date: 14 Aug 1996 02:04:12 -0700 > > On 14 Aug 1996, PC_USER wrote: > > > I would like to use pine to save mail without the header messages. > > How could I do it? > > You could use E(xport) to achive your goal. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 11:52:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17409; Wed, 14 Aug 96 11:52:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25073; Wed, 14 Aug 96 11:48:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25066; Wed, 14 Aug 96 11:48:06 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.lmco.com ([166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06536 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 14:48:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.lmco.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA03721 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 14:48:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (4.1/LMCO SunOS Server Nondomain-1.1) id AA16982; Wed, 14 Aug 96 14:46:41 EDT Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 14:46:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman X-Sender: sugarman@mmpcs1 To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Attachments in Pine from other Mail servers In-Reply-To: <9608131627.AA24281@asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Re: Multiple Attachements A cautionary note about piping attachments from within Pine. (tested with 3.95) If your message contains more than one uuencoded file, the pipe to uudecode fails. If you pipe to munpack (a multi-format decoder), the first file gets decoded and subsequent files are ignored (okay, I only tried it with two ;) but that's what happened.) The safest way I've found to decode is to export the message and split the files into individual uuencoded files and uudecode or munpack each. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 12:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17623; Wed, 14 Aug 96 12:02:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11773; Wed, 14 Aug 96 11:57:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11767; Wed, 14 Aug 96 11:57:13 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.lmco.com ([166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA07240 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 14:57:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.lmco.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA04875 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 14:57:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (4.1/LMCO SunOS Server Nondomain-1.1) id AA17142; Wed, 14 Aug 96 14:55:50 EDT Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 14:55:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman X-Sender: sugarman@mmpcs1 Reply-To: Don Sugarman To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: Message to Newbies Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII WELCOME! It's that time of year, when schools fill up with new students using Pine for the first time. I would like to unofficially (I'm just a Pine user, like you) welcome you to the list/newsgroup and to invite you to read your Getting Started with Pine and all the excellent context-sensitive help screens and prompts that are part of Pine. This will help you in getting the most out of Pine and will minimize the bandwidth on the list/newsgroup with rather basic questions. To help discover many of the advanced features of Pine, go into Setup, Configuration from the main menu and press ? on each feature. This will allow you to understand how you can customize your Pine for your own tastes. Regards and good luck in school, Don Sugarman, Pine user sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 12:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17659; Wed, 14 Aug 96 12:05:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11903; Wed, 14 Aug 96 12:02:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11895; Wed, 14 Aug 96 12:02:00 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.lmco.com ([166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA07804; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 15:01:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.lmco.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA05119; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 15:01:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (4.1/LMCO SunOS Server Nondomain-1.1) id AA17207; Wed, 14 Aug 96 15:00:29 EDT Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 15:00:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman X-Sender: sugarman@mmpcs1 To: "Adam H. Kerman" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Save mail without headers, how??? In-Reply-To: <19960814142712.aaaa004dG@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 14 Aug 1996, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > No, that won't work. Sure it does. I believe Ed's message implied allowing the user to then edit the header out of the exported file. > > To save the text without the headers, use the View command. This will > bring up the message viewer index. A message without attachments has one > part, the body. Then, use the Save command, to name a file to save the > message to. > > If you want to save all the headers, enable the "display full headers" > feature in the configuration file. Then, view the message and issue the > Headers command. Then, Export the message to a file you name. > > On 14 Aug 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > From: Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com (Ed Greshko) > > Date: 14 Aug 1996 02:04:12 -0700 > > > > On 14 Aug 1996, PC_USER wrote: > > > > > I would like to use pine to save mail without the header messages. > > > How could I do it? > > > > You could use E(xport) to achive your goal. > Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 12:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17972; Wed, 14 Aug 96 12:23:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12278; Wed, 14 Aug 96 12:16:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12272; Wed, 14 Aug 96 12:16:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqlOM-00038BC; Wed, 14 Aug 96 12:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Memory Leak? Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 11:48:04 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 13 Aug 1996, Ng Pheng Siong wrote: > Am using Pine 3.95 (gso), typical INBOX size is 9MB. Every now and then, > 'compose' or 'reply' says "Cannot fork editor: not enough space" or words > to that effect. Is this a memory leak? On Tue, 13 Aug 1996, David L Miller wrote: > We don't know of any significant memory leaks in Pine 3.95. What > alternate editor are you using and what is the system load like when > this occurs? On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, Ng Pheng Siong wrote: > Editor is /bin/vi, invoked implicitly. > Machine is Solaris 2.5, Sparc 5, 32MB. My desktop; typically 3 xterms, > 1 www browser. Only server is SMTP (qmail ;). Load is low. > > When this occurs, I'd quit Pine and restart, and it'll be ok. Next time, check the amount of free memory and swap. Even without a memory leak, you could run into memory fragmentation problems if you are low on memory anyway. One thing to try is re-compiling with a different malloc() that is more aggressive about returning freed memory to the system... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 12:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18294; Wed, 14 Aug 96 12:40:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26248; Wed, 14 Aug 96 12:36:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26242; Wed, 14 Aug 96 12:36:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqlft-00038BC; Wed, 14 Aug 96 12:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Alan Robiette Subject: Campus-wide use of PC-Pine (Win) - large address books Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 17:56:48 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 3 weeks or so back there was a thread on setting up PC-Pine (in that case the Win95 version) for wide-spread use in campus environments. A question I meant to raise at the time is whether anyone has found a way of using large address books with the Windows version. Our interest is in Windows 3.11. Currently we maintain a campus-wide address book for Pine on Unix, which has nearly 14,000 entries for staff and students - the raw file is more than 1 MB in size. This works fine in that environment; the only problem is that it's a little slow on searching, but users can live with this. However if I try the same address book with the Windows version, PC-Pine falls over immediately with a GPF. An earlier version (3.93 from memory, but I can't be sure) would load the first page of the address book but then freeze up completely as soon as any operation was attempted. I guess it simply cannot handle address books of this size. We have thought of splitting the address book into chunks, either by University department or by sections of the alphabet. Before trying possible schemes it seemed worth enquiring whether there's any experience of this or any other approach. Can anyone give for example any kind of upper limit on address book size, which the Windows version is known to accept? Equally important, are there any limits on the number of global address books PC-Pine can hold in its list? Any ideas on this one would be welcome, either by posting to the group or by direct email. I have even wondered about last ditch solutions like using a separate ph client and using cut and paste to transfer the address into Pine (far from ideal, but other mail systems in use on campus like Eudora and Pegasus/POP3 both have built-in support for ph, so it would serve several needs). If there's enough interest I'll be glad to summarise. TIA, Alan ============================================================================== Alan Robiette, Director of IT, University of Warwick, Coventry CV4 7AL, UK Phone +44-1203-524459 Fax +44-1203-523267 Email From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 12:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18396; Wed, 14 Aug 96 12:45:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12901; Wed, 14 Aug 96 12:41:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12895; Wed, 14 Aug 96 12:41:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqlnJ-00038BC; Wed, 14 Aug 96 12:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: idoh@cais.com (Ido's ) Subject: Re: hiding a distribution list Date: 14 Aug 1996 17:00:04 GMT Message-Id: <4ut0mk$ajf@news2.cais.com> References: Richard G. Roberto (richr@bear.com) wrote: : : Can anyone explain this to me? I checked the pine archives : and I took tha advise of past posts. I put a bogus entry in : the To: field like so: : : distribution list :; : ^^ here's the magical incantaion, right? If all you wanted to mail to a list of people and don't want everyone to see the other mailing addresses you just put the names under Bcc: : : and then added recipients to the Lcc: field. It seems that : it made it out to the recipient sites OK, but they couldn't : deal with the To: user supplied (i.e. the incantation). : What did I do wrong? What does that ":;" do anyway? Where : can I read up on this in some detail? By the way, I'm using : Pine3.94 precompiled Solaris 2.x binary. : : Thanks in advance. : : Richard G. Roberto : richr@bear.com : 201-739-2886 - whippany, nj : : : -- : ******************************************************************************* : Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or : agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account : activity contained in this communication. : ******************************************************************************* -- +-------------------------------------------------+ Carol and Haisam Ido +-------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 13:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18933; Wed, 14 Aug 96 13:30:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27992; Wed, 14 Aug 96 13:27:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27982; Wed, 14 Aug 96 13:26:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqmSQ-00038BC; Wed, 14 Aug 96 13:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rfunk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Rob Funk) Subject: Re: Setting up Mail and News in Linux Date: 14 Aug 1996 20:21:55 GMT Message-Id: <4utch3$hkb@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <4urhal$c4d@uhura.phoenix.net> In article <4urhal$c4d@uhura.phoenix.net>, Paul Greene wrote: >I've been able to send mail to myself using Pine (although it comes >from "root "). Um, you should probably be using a normal account, not root. > I can't figure out, though, how to >retrieve mail from my ISP. popclient. Latest version is at http://locke.ccil.org/~esr/esr-freeware.html, but you probably have an older version on your machine already. > I don't understand from the instructions in >this documentation how to set up the "mail transport agent". Sendmail. Don't wade into this until you have simpler things working. >What transport agent would be appropriate for me to use (Sendmail, >smail, lmail, deliver) I don't know about lmail, but deliver isn't a transport agent; it just delivers on the local machine. I use sendmail because it is extremely flexible. > (My struggle with a lot of Linux >documentation is that it seems to assume a certain level of Unix or >Linux experience which I don't have.) Learn Unix before trying to configure a Unix machine. Really. > The usage is simply a dial up >PPP connection, with a stand alone Linux computer not connected to any >network. Have you read the Linux-ISP HOWTO? (I may have the name slightly wrong, but ISP is the point.) I disagree with some of its recommendations, but it's a good starting point. > Also, how do you get Pine to start communicating with the >transport agent ? Actually, in your case it's probably better to tell pine to use your ISP's SMTP server, at least until you get sendmail running nicely. >While getting the mail connection up and going, and testing the >system, I would like to be able to have the mail stay on the ISP's >server and not get deleted when I download it. After it's working fine >and seems reliable, I would then like to have the mail deleted after >retrieving it to my own computer. man popclient. Look for the "-k" option. >Any sympathizers out there who can help me out ? I'm actually in the early stages of writing something to help with your problems (your questions are very common, and I'm unsatisfied with many of the solutions being recommended), but I don't expect to have anything done for a few months. >P.S. A final note: I also have some questions regarding getting Usenet >up and running on the same machine; is this an appropriate newsgroup >for those kind of questions ? If not, where would be a good place to >try ? Check news.software.nntp and the Linux News HOWTO. You might also want to see comp.os.linux.setup -- it would be more appropriate than comp.mail.pine, although the traffic is pretty high and there are probably more questions than answers there. -- =========== R o b F u n k ===========|===========> funk+@osu.edu <=========== Guildenstern: "So there you are." |rfunk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Rosencrantz: "Stark raving sane." |rfunk@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Tom Stoppard, Ros. & Guil. Are Dead)|http://er4www.eng.ohio-state.edu/~funkr From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 14:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20141; Wed, 14 Aug 96 14:14:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15749; Wed, 14 Aug 96 14:11:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15743; Wed, 14 Aug 96 14:11:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqnBL-00038BC; Wed, 14 Aug 96 14:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lfriedl@course2.harvard.edu (Lisa Friedland) Subject: Re: bug/complaint/help? Date: 14 Aug 1996 20:48:06 GMT Message-Id: <4ute26$j3f@decaxp.harvard.edu> References: : On 20 May 1996, Elaine Reuben wrote: : :>The contents of various folder(s) of sent mail are now/suddenly : :>all listed by _my name_, rather than by name of _person to whom_ : :>sent. Thus, to find almost any such message for whatever reasons : :> Barry Landy (bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk) wrote: : Pine needs to know your email address in order to distinguish mail from : you and mail to you. Something has presumably changed with your default : address (or Pine's knowledge of it). I have a similar problem: The contents of my sent-mail folders started being listed by _my_ name. After a point the problem was evidently fixed; mail sent since Jul 31 is listed correctly. However, everything I have saved from before then is still listed by my name. I tried adding an address under alt-adresses--no luck. Can anyone help? Thank you, -Lisa From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 15:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09424; Wed, 14 Aug 96 15:09:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01144; Wed, 14 Aug 96 15:06:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01138; Wed, 14 Aug 96 15:06:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqo4f-00038BC; Wed, 14 Aug 96 15:06 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul Mitchell Subject: 3.95 sent-mail prob. Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 17:51:02 -0400 Message-Id: References: <32047473.1F75399@iki.fi> <4udsir$ha@fcnews.fc.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4udsir$ha@fcnews.fc.hp.com> Here's a wierd one, (which I admit up front, I haven't had time to really study). A number of people, (myself included) are reporting that the To: field in their sent-mail folder is always set to their name, (as opposed to the person they are sent the mail to). I've checked the setup/config menus and can find no setting which would determine this behavior. Has anyone else seen this or corrected it? Paul Mitchell ============================================================================== Paul Mitchell email: paulm@thing.oit.unc.edu Office of Information Technology phone: (919) 962-5259 University of North Carolina ============================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 15:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22651; Wed, 14 Aug 96 15:49:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18438; Wed, 14 Aug 96 15:47:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18432; Wed, 14 Aug 96 15:47:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqog9-00038BC; Wed, 14 Aug 96 15:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Udi Motello Subject: Help: Delete the attachmnt part before saveing the message Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 00:15:53 +0300 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Users ask me to delete the Attchmnt parts and save only the buddy of the message in folder. We download the Word.doc file to the PC and now, we dont need the MINE. Any suggestions ? Thanks advance Udi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 15:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22667; Wed, 14 Aug 96 15:50:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02339; Wed, 14 Aug 96 15:48:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02333; Wed, 14 Aug 96 15:48:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqohz-00038TC; Wed, 14 Aug 96 15:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brian Bell Subject: Upload from ^r Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 12:42:24 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've tried a suggestion to get the "upload" option in PINE 3.95 to work, but it still does not start. The upload command option in PINE's configuation is set to "rz -eb " but when it activates, this is displayed: rz: ready to receive /usr/tmp/pu009546 Beginning a zmodem send from the terminal fails to start the transfer. Is this option enabled? -=BB Brian Bell bbell19@nwlink.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 15:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22131; Wed, 14 Aug 96 15:55:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18597; Wed, 14 Aug 96 15:52:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from silver.sdsmt.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18591; Wed, 14 Aug 96 15:52:56 -0700 Received: from localhost (erm4370@localhost) by silver.sdsmt.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA55208 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 16:52:54 -0600 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 16:52:54 -0600 (MDT) From: Ed To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: saving mail to INBOX Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I tried to save a message from a folder to my INBOX using the 's' command. Well, the message isn't in my INBOX, and it got deleted from my other folder. Can anyone tell me where it went or how to get it back? Thanks a lot!!! Ed (please reply to me since I'm not on the mailing-list) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 17:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23798; Wed, 14 Aug 96 17:05:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20298; Wed, 14 Aug 96 17:02:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20292; Wed, 14 Aug 96 17:02:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqpqS-00038BC; Wed, 14 Aug 96 16:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sheung-Fan C Wen Subject: Feature Request: command to advance to top/bottom Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 00:27:39 GMT Consider this feature in future versions of pine: to include a control key press for advancing to the top or bottom when reading or composing a message. Currently, when a message gets very long, you may have to hit Ctrl-Y or Ctrl-V many times to advance to the top or bottom of the message. Current work around: use an external viewer or editor. SearchWords: keyboard shortcut, advance to top, advance to bottom Sheung-Fan C Wen - IC Design Engineer - Local Area Networks -,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-eos. * The views expressed here may not reflect those of NSC. * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 18:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23459; Wed, 14 Aug 96 18:14:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05182; Wed, 14 Aug 96 18:12:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05176; Wed, 14 Aug 96 18:12:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqqwh-00038BC; Wed, 14 Aug 96 18:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pgreene@phoenix.net (Paul Greene) Subject: Setting up Mail and News in Linux Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 02:29:23 GMT Message-Id: <4urhal$c4d@uhura.phoenix.net> (Warning; this question is from a sincere, but ignorant, Linux beginner; assume the following questions are going to sound like he doesn't know what he's doing) I would like to use a Linux box for cruising the Internet. I've figured out how to get the PPP connection going and can use the Internet browser included with the version of Linux I've got (Redhat 2.1 with Arena for a browser). I've been able to send mail to myself using Pine (although it comes from "root "). I can't figure out, though, how to retrieve mail from my ISP. I've read the "Mail HOW-TO" (at least 3 times) and have the Linux Network Administrators Guide but, frankly it doesn't make sense to me. I don't understand from the instructions in this documentation how to set up the "mail transport agent". What I'd like to know is : What transport agent would be appropriate for me to use (Sendmail, smail, lmail, deliver) and where could I get some good succinct instructions about how to set it up ? (My struggle with a lot of Linux documentation is that it seems to assume a certain level of Unix or Linux experience which I don't have.) The usage is simply a dial up PPP connection, with a stand alone Linux computer not connected to any network. Also, how do you get Pine to start communicating with the transport agent ? While getting the mail connection up and going, and testing the system, I would like to be able to have the mail stay on the ISP's server and not get deleted when I download it. After it's working fine and seems reliable, I would then like to have the mail deleted after retrieving it to my own computer. Any sympathizers out there who can help me out ? Paul Greene P.S. A final note: I also have some questions regarding getting Usenet up and running on the same machine; is this an appropriate newsgroup for those kind of questions ? If not, where would be a good place to try ? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 18:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25157; Wed, 14 Aug 96 18:39:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21938; Wed, 14 Aug 96 18:37:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21932; Wed, 14 Aug 96 18:37:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqrJ5-00038BC; Wed, 14 Aug 96 18:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: alemuzz@nti.it (Alessandro Muzzetta) Subject: Empty messages with Pine Date: 14 Aug 1996 21:56:48 GMT Message-Id: <4uti30$f48@netra.ibenet.it> I'm using Pine 3.91 on Linux, and whenever I download mail from my isp's pop server, for every message I get I also receive another bogus message with no title and no body. Why is this? Thanks in advance, for the help. -- Alessandro Muzzetta Italy From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 20:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25489; Wed, 14 Aug 96 20:06:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23122; Wed, 14 Aug 96 20:03:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.primenet.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23116; Wed, 14 Aug 96 20:03:44 -0700 Received: from primenet.com (swainadv@usr06.primenet.com [206.165.5.106]) by mailhost1.primenet.com (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA15920 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 20:03:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (swainadv@localhost) by primenet.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id UAA27153 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 20:03:43 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 20:03:42 -0700 (MST) From: Steve Swain To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Virus Warning -Forwarded -Forwarded (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- swainadv __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____ swainadv@primenet.com /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ / / / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ / ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 09:49:56 -0700 From: Steve Swain To: swainadv@primenet.com Subject: Virus Warning -Forwarded -Forwarded Date: 08/12/1996 08:00 am (Monday) From: Neal Stites To: Everyone Subject: Virus Warning -Forwarded Received: from mercury.Sun.COM by mx4.smtp.psi.net (8.7.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id SAA00303; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 18:35:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mercury.Sun.COM (Sun.COM) id PAA13986; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 15:32:13 -0700 Received: from sunburn.West.Sun.COM by West.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-5.3) id AA10617; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 15:32:11 -0700 Received: by sunburn.West.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA04760; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 15:31:32 -0700 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 15:31:32 -0700 From: Mike.Basson@West.Sun.COM (Mike Basson SUN Phoenix Sales) Message-Id: <199608112231.PAA04760@sunburn.West.Sun.COM> To: aldo@emtek.com, billb@emtek.com, carlos@emtek.com, cindim@emtek.com, elisa@emtek.com, nstites@colourcomp.com, rsunda@brisas.kyreneELD.k12.az.us, scolla@colourcomp.com, wendi@emtek.com Subject: Virus Warning > From Tony.Chargualaf@merisel.com Sat Aug 10 10:33 MST 1996 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Subject: WARNING !!!!! INTERNET VIRUS > To: alex.molmud@West.Sun.COM, amy.hale@West.Sun.COM, bill.gaita@West.Sun.COM, > bill.swansen@West.Sun.COM, bruce.mitchell@West.Sun.COM, > eric.zweigel@West.Sun.COM, greg.money@West.Sun.COM, > james.danielson@West.Sun.COM, mike.basson@West.Sun.COM, > sharon.andre@West.Sun.COM, eric@apunix.com, mike@apunix.com, > shane@apunix.com, susan@apunix.com, chris.conlon@daou.com, > geoff.gagne@daou.com, ron.mirabile@daou.com, bojorquez@novaquest.com, > johnmac@webvision.com, monty@webvision.com, papadopo@novaquest.com, > rosemary@novaquest.com > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Description: cc:Mail note part > > > Please be sure your teams see this and divert disaster! > > ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ > Subject: WARNING !!!!! INTERNET VIRUS > Author: Drew Boyd at BOSSALES > Date: 8/9/96 9:43 AM > > > Ciaran, > > This message was forwarded to me. It sounds like a real nasty virus > potential. I thought you should see it and have it distributed > appropriately. > > Drew > > Date: 8/5/96 3:43 PM > > SUBJECT: VIRUSES--IMPORTANT PLEASE READ IMMEDIATELY There is a > computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If you receive > an e-mail message with the subject line "Good Times", DO NOT read the > message, DELETE it immediately. Please read the messages below. Some > miscreant is sending e-mail under the title "Good Times" nation wide, > if you get anything like this, DON'T DOWN LOAD THE FILE! It has a > virus that rewrites your hard drive, obliterating anything on it. > Please be careful and forward this mail to anyone you care about. > > ****************************************************************** > WARNING!!!!!!! INTERNET VIRUS > ****************************************************************** > > The FCC released a warning last Wednesday concerning a matter of major > importance to any regular user of the Internet. Apparently a new com > puter virus has been engineered by a user of AMERICA ON LINE that is > unparalleled in its destructive capability. Other more well-known > viruses such as "Stoned", "Airwolf" and "Michaelangelo" pale in > compari son to the prospects of this newest creation by a warped > mentality. > > What makes this virus so terrifying, said the FCC, is the fact that no > program needs to be exchanged for a new computer to be infected. It > can be spread through the existing e-mail systems of the Internet. > Once a Computer is infected, one of several things can happen. If the > computer contains a hard drive, that will most likely be destroyed. If > the program is not stopped, the computer's processor will be placed in > an nth-complexity infinite binary loop -which can severely damage the > processor if left running that way too long. > > Unfortunately, most novice computer users will not realize what is > happening until it is far too late. Luckily, there is one sure means > of detecting what is now known as the "Good Times" virus. It always > travels to new computers the same way in a text email message with the > subject line reading "Good Times". > > Avoiding infection is easy once the file has been received simply by > NOT READING IT! The act of loading the file into the mail server's > ASCII buffer causes the "Good Times" mainline program to initialize > and execute. The program is highly intelligent- it will send copies of > itself to everyone whose e-mail address is contained in a receive-mail > file or a sent-mail file, if it can find one. It will then proceed to > trash the computer it is running on. > > The bottom line there is - if you receive a file with the subject line > "Good Times", delete it immediately! Do not read it" Rest assured that > whoever's name was on the "From" line was surely struck by the virus. > Warn your friends and local system users of this newest threat to the > Internet! It could save them a lot of time and money. > Mike Basson E-Mail: mike.basson@West.Sun.COM Sun Microsystems, Inc. Phone: (602) 224-3520 2398 E. Camelback Rd., Suite 950 Fax: (602) 224-9831 Phoenix, Arizona 85016 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 21:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26604; Wed, 14 Aug 96 21:00:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07542; Wed, 14 Aug 96 20:57:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07536; Wed, 14 Aug 96 20:57:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqtVu-00038BC; Wed, 14 Aug 96 20:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Message to Newbies Date: 14 Aug 1996 21:25:15 GMT Message-Id: References: sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (Don Sugarman): > WELCOME! > > It's that time of year, when schools fill up with new students using Pine > for the first time. > > I would like to unofficially (I'm just a Pine user, like you) welcome you to > the list/newsgroup and to invite you to read your Getting Started with Pine > and all the excellent context-sensitive help screens and prompts that are > part of Pine. > > This will help you in getting the most out of Pine and will minimize the > bandwidth on the list/newsgroup with rather basic questions. > > To help discover many of the advanced features of Pine, go into Setup, > Configuration from the main menu and press ? on each feature. This will > allow you to understand how you can customize your Pine for your own tastes. YM "RTFM!". HTH. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 21:05:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26557; Wed, 14 Aug 96 21:05:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23944; Wed, 14 Aug 96 21:02:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23938; Wed, 14 Aug 96 21:02:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqtcR-00038BC; Wed, 14 Aug 96 21:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: Reseting .pinerc Date: 14 Aug 1996 12:32:27 GMT Message-Id: <4ush0r$653@babbage.ece.uc.edu> References: <4uqqqt$9pt@News.Dal.Ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <4uqqqt$9pt@news.dal.ca>, pchase@is.dal.ca (PCHASE) writes: > Can you do it on V3.95 with a unix command? If so, what is the >command? Thanks...... At login level, do a "/bin/rm .pinerc". This should remove (delete) the .pinerc file. When you launch Pine again, you will create another one with defaults in all the configurable fields. Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu for my PGP pub. key= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 21:05:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26646; Wed, 14 Aug 96 21:05:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07651; Wed, 14 Aug 96 21:04:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.bcpl.lib.md.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07645; Wed, 14 Aug 96 21:04:25 -0700 Received: from localhost by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA22106; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 00:05:31 +0500 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 00:05:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip Old X-Sender: fold@mail To: pine-info Subject: Re: Feature Request: command to advance to top/bottom In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 747 On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, Sheung-Fan C Wen wrote: > Consider this feature in future versions of pine: to include a control key > press for advancing to the top or bottom when reading or composing a > message. Currently, when a message gets very long, you may have to hit > Ctrl-Y or Ctrl-V many times to advance to the top or bottom of the > message. Ctrl-W Ctrl-Y takes you to the top. Ctrl-W Ctrl-V takes you to the bottom. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Administrator, Internetworking Services Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 U.S.A. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 21:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21859; Wed, 14 Aug 96 21:14:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07783; Wed, 14 Aug 96 21:13:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.bcpl.lib.md.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07777; Wed, 14 Aug 96 21:12:58 -0700 Received: from localhost by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA23169; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 00:14:02 +0500 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 00:13:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip Old X-Sender: fold@mail To: Steve Swain Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Virus Warning -Forwarded -Forwarded (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 6987 Hoax alert! Hoax alert! This is the infamous "Good Times Virus" hoax that has been resurfacing about every six months for the past two or three years. The Good Times virus does not exist, nor has the FCC ever issued a warning about it, nor can you transmit a virus in the manner described. Please don't waste bandwidth by redistributing this rubbish. On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, Steve Swain wrote to pine-info: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > swainadv __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____ > swainadv@primenet.com /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ / > / / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ / > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 09:49:56 -0700 > From: Steve Swain > To: swainadv@primenet.com > Subject: Virus Warning -Forwarded -Forwarded > > Date: 08/12/1996 08:00 am (Monday) > From: Neal Stites > To: Everyone > Subject: Virus Warning -Forwarded > > Received: from mercury.Sun.COM by mx4.smtp.psi.net (8.7.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) > id SAA00303; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 18:35:41 -0400 (EDT) > Received: by mercury.Sun.COM (Sun.COM) > id PAA13986; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 15:32:13 -0700 > Received: from sunburn.West.Sun.COM by West.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-5.3) > id AA10617; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 15:32:11 -0700 > Received: by sunburn.West.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) > id PAA04760; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 15:31:32 -0700 > Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 15:31:32 -0700 > From: Mike.Basson@West.Sun.COM (Mike Basson SUN Phoenix Sales) > Message-Id: <199608112231.PAA04760@sunburn.West.Sun.COM> > To: aldo@emtek.com, billb@emtek.com, carlos@emtek.com, cindim@emtek.com, > elisa@emtek.com, nstites@colourcomp.com, > rsunda@brisas.kyreneELD.k12.az.us, scolla@colourcomp.com, > wendi@emtek.com > Subject: Virus Warning > > > From Tony.Chargualaf@merisel.com Sat Aug 10 10:33 MST 1996 > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > Subject: WARNING !!!!! INTERNET VIRUS > > To: alex.molmud@West.Sun.COM, amy.hale@West.Sun.COM, bill.gaita@West.Sun.COM, > > bill.swansen@West.Sun.COM, bruce.mitchell@West.Sun.COM, > > eric.zweigel@West.Sun.COM, greg.money@West.Sun.COM, > > james.danielson@West.Sun.COM, mike.basson@West.Sun.COM, > > sharon.andre@West.Sun.COM, eric@apunix.com, mike@apunix.com, > > shane@apunix.com, susan@apunix.com, chris.conlon@daou.com, > > geoff.gagne@daou.com, ron.mirabile@daou.com, bojorquez@novaquest.com, > > johnmac@webvision.com, monty@webvision.com, papadopo@novaquest.com, > > rosemary@novaquest.com > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Content-Description: cc:Mail note part > > > > > > Please be sure your teams see this and divert disaster! > > > > ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ > > Subject: WARNING !!!!! INTERNET VIRUS > > Author: Drew Boyd at BOSSALES > > Date: 8/9/96 9:43 AM > > > > > > Ciaran, > > > > This message was forwarded to me. It sounds like a real nasty virus > > potential. I thought you should see it and have it distributed > > appropriately. > > > > Drew > > > > Date: 8/5/96 3:43 PM > > > > SUBJECT: VIRUSES--IMPORTANT PLEASE READ IMMEDIATELY There is a > > computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If you receive > > an e-mail message with the subject line "Good Times", DO NOT read the > > message, DELETE it immediately. Please read the messages below. Some > > miscreant is sending e-mail under the title "Good Times" nation wide, > > if you get anything like this, DON'T DOWN LOAD THE FILE! It has a > > virus that rewrites your hard drive, obliterating anything on it. > > Please be careful and forward this mail to anyone you care about. > > > > ****************************************************************** > > WARNING!!!!!!! INTERNET VIRUS > > ****************************************************************** > > > > The FCC released a warning last Wednesday concerning a matter of major > > importance to any regular user of the Internet. Apparently a new com > > puter virus has been engineered by a user of AMERICA ON LINE that is > > unparalleled in its destructive capability. Other more well-known > > viruses such as "Stoned", "Airwolf" and "Michaelangelo" pale in > > compari son to the prospects of this newest creation by a warped > > mentality. > > > > What makes this virus so terrifying, said the FCC, is the fact that no > > program needs to be exchanged for a new computer to be infected. It > > can be spread through the existing e-mail systems of the Internet. > > Once a Computer is infected, one of several things can happen. If the > > computer contains a hard drive, that will most likely be destroyed. If > > the program is not stopped, the computer's processor will be placed in > > an nth-complexity infinite binary loop -which can severely damage the > > processor if left running that way too long. > > > > Unfortunately, most novice computer users will not realize what is > > happening until it is far too late. Luckily, there is one sure means > > of detecting what is now known as the "Good Times" virus. It always > > travels to new computers the same way in a text email message with the > > subject line reading "Good Times". > > > > Avoiding infection is easy once the file has been received simply by > > NOT READING IT! The act of loading the file into the mail server's > > ASCII buffer causes the "Good Times" mainline program to initialize > > and execute. The program is highly intelligent- it will send copies of > > itself to everyone whose e-mail address is contained in a receive-mail > > file or a sent-mail file, if it can find one. It will then proceed to > > trash the computer it is running on. > > > > The bottom line there is - if you receive a file with the subject line > > "Good Times", delete it immediately! Do not read it" Rest assured that > > whoever's name was on the "From" line was surely struck by the virus. > > Warn your friends and local system users of this newest threat to the > > Internet! It could save them a lot of time and money. > > > > > Mike Basson E-Mail: mike.basson@West.Sun.COM > > Sun Microsystems, Inc. Phone: (602) 224-3520 > 2398 E. Camelback Rd., Suite 950 Fax: (602) 224-9831 > Phoenix, Arizona 85016 > > ------------------------------------- Chip Old "Intel Inside" The World's most widely used warning label... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 23:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27504; Wed, 14 Aug 96 23:15:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09275; Wed, 14 Aug 96 23:13:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09269; Wed, 14 Aug 96 23:12:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqvdu-00038BC; Wed, 14 Aug 96 23:10 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lee Hauser <76264.1727@CompuServe.COM> Subject: PCPine Packet Driver Date: 13 Aug 1996 19:10:08 GMT Message-Id: <4uqjug$mm0$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> I'm trying to set up PCPine but I don't understand what it needs for a PPP packet driver. Could someone give me a rundown on connecting Pine to the Internet via PPP? Lee Hauser hauserls@sprynet.com -- Lee Hauser hauserls@wkg.mhs.compuserve.com lhauser@wln.com 76264.1727@compuserve.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 00:14:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27916; Thu, 15 Aug 96 00:14:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09961; Thu, 15 Aug 96 00:08:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vigrid.cfar.umd.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09955; Thu, 15 Aug 96 00:08:51 -0700 Received: from localhost by vigrid.cfar.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id DAA21908; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 03:08:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 03:08:37 -0400 (EDT) From: ADAM Sulmicki To: Steve Swain Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Virus Warning -Forwarded -Forwarded (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ->> What makes this virus so terrifying, said the FCC, is the fact that no ->> program needs to be exchanged for a new computer to be infected. It ->> can be spread through the existing e-mail systems of the Internet. ->> Once a Computer is infected, one of several things can happen. If the ->> computer contains a hard drive, that will most likely be destroyed. If ->> the program is not stopped, the computer's processor will be placed in ->> an nth-complexity infinite binary loop -which can severely damage the ->> processor if left running that way too long. Hehehehe, I haven't read lately anything so funny.. espcecially the paragraph above.. but haven't you forgot to mention that virus uses monitor radiation to (display &) transport it cells to reader of the email and kill him as well :) Of curiosity, if I'll have double-cpu comptuer then the infinte loop will be of 2*nth-complexity or 2^nth-complexity ? -Adam From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 00:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28304; Thu, 15 Aug 96 00:30:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10191; Thu, 15 Aug 96 00:25:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from yarra.vicnet.net.au by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10181; Thu, 15 Aug 96 00:25:34 -0700 Received: from rvib2.rvib.org.au (rvib2.rvib.org.au [203.3.138.1]) by yarra.vicnet.net.au (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id RAA09670; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 17:24:34 +1000 Received: from rvib2.rvib.org.au by rvib2.rvib.org.au id aa12172; 15 Aug 96 17:19 AEST Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 17:19:53 +1000 (AEST) From: Les Wallis To: Steve Swain Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Virus Warning -Forwarded -Forwarded (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Not that old one again! It is a HOAX From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 01:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18054; Thu, 15 Aug 96 01:39:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27344; Thu, 15 Aug 96 01:33:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27338; Thu, 15 Aug 96 01:33:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqxnA-00038BC; Thu, 15 Aug 96 01:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccam@lux.latrobe.edu.au (Andrew Moar) Subject: Pico crashing on VMS (Alpha) Date: 14 Aug 1996 07:26:28 GMT Message-Id: <4urv34$ts1@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I've got a bit of a problem with pico on one of our vms boxes. I got the new (3.95) version of pine and tried building Pico myself. It built O.K. and apart from some display problems seemed to run OK. Then I tried a ^T to browse the files. This is when it crashed! From the archives, I managed to find a site with pre-compiled binaries. This too crashed in the same spot, although with a somewhat different error (the VAX version worked fine). It crashed with an access violation with this message: Improperly handled condition, image exit forced. Signal arguments: Number = 00000005 Name = 0000000C 00000000 7EBB19BF 00047E4C 0000001B then a register dump Anybody got any ideas what's going on? Any fixes? Thanks for anything, Andrew -- Andrew Moar : Ph (03) 9479 3928 email A.Moar@latrobe.edu.au Systems Programmer, Information Technology Services La Trobe University, Melbourne From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 02:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28891; Thu, 15 Aug 96 02:07:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27645; Thu, 15 Aug 96 02:02:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from frank.mtsu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27639; Thu, 15 Aug 96 02:02:16 -0700 Received: from localhost by frank.mtsu.edu with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA216689819; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 04:03:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 04:03:39 -0500 (CDT) From: "Hiram Lester Jr." To: Pine Info List Subject: Re: Virus Warning -Forwarded -Forwarded (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Chip Old wrote: > Hoax alert! Hoax alert! > > This is the infamous "Good Times Virus" hoax that has been resurfacing > about every six months for the past two or three years. The Good Times > virus does not exist, nor has the FCC ever issued a warning about it, nor > can you transmit a virus in the manner described. > > Please don't waste bandwidth by redistributing this rubbish. For even more info and links to the actual CIAC advisories, check out the following URL for the Good Times Virus FAQ: http://www.usit.net/public/lesjones/goodtimes.html :) +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Hiram W. Lester, Jr. | E-Mail: hwlester@pobox.com | | Computer Science | Homepage: | | Middle Tennessee State University | http://pobox.com/~hwlester/ | +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 02:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28953; Thu, 15 Aug 96 02:14:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11441; Thu, 15 Aug 96 02:10:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11435; Thu, 15 Aug 96 02:10:23 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 15 Aug 1996 10:07:47 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA26952; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 10:09:45 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 10:09:45 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Ido's Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: hiding a distribution list In-Reply-To: <4ut0mk$ajf@news2.cais.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 14 Aug 1996, Ido's wrote: > Richard G. Roberto (richr@bear.com) wrote: > : > : Can anyone explain this to me? I checked the pine archives > : and I took tha advise of past posts. I put a bogus entry in > : the To: field like so: > : > : distribution list :; > : ^^ here's the magical incantaion, right? > > If all you wanted to mail to a list of people and don't want everyone to > see the other mailing addresses you just put the names under Bcc: Careful! The whole point of the "magical incantation" is to avoid problems with some delivery software. In particular if the recipients are only listed in the Cc and/or Bcc fields (ie, with no To field specified) then some delivery software happily reveals the "hidden" list as a series of "Apparently-To:" fields. Having a To field along the lines of "List Name:;" is exactly right in these circumstances. However I seem to recall that the magical ":;" parsing fails if one has a misconfigured sendmail. Can anyone recall more details about this? Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 02:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29257; Thu, 15 Aug 96 02:33:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11637; Thu, 15 Aug 96 02:28:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11625; Thu, 15 Aug 96 02:28:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqyhs-00038TC; Thu, 15 Aug 96 02:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Vivek Subramanian Subject: Re: Virus Warning -Forwarded -Forwarded (fwd) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 21:44:50 -0700 Message-Id: <3212AB42.5D0C@leland.stanford.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve Swain wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > swainadv __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____ > swainadv@primenet.com /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ / > / / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ / > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 09:49:56 -0700 > From: Steve Swain > To: swainadv@primenet.com > Subject: Virus Warning -Forwarded -Forwarded > > Date: 08/12/1996 08:00 am (Monday) > From: Neal Stites > To: Everyone > Subject: Virus Warning -Forwarded > > Received: from mercury.Sun.COM by mx4.smtp.psi.net (8.7.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) > id SAA00303; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 18:35:41 -0400 (EDT) > Received: by mercury.Sun.COM (Sun.COM) > id PAA13986; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 15:32:13 -0700 > Received: from sunburn.West.Sun.COM by West.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-5.3) > id AA10617; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 15:32:11 -0700 > Received: by sunburn.West.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) > id PAA04760; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 15:31:32 -0700 > Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 15:31:32 -0700 > From: Mike.Basson@West.Sun.COM (Mike Basson SUN Phoenix Sales) > Message-Id: <199608112231.PAA04760@sunburn.West.Sun.COM> > To: aldo@emtek.com, billb@emtek.com, carlos@emtek.com, cindim@emtek.com, > elisa@emtek.com, nstites@colourcomp.com, > rsunda@brisas.kyreneELD.k12.az.us, scolla@colourcomp.com, > wendi@emtek.com > Subject: Virus Warning > > > From Tony.Chargualaf@merisel.com Sat Aug 10 10:33 MST 1996 > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > Subject: WARNING !!!!! INTERNET VIRUS > > To: alex.molmud@West.Sun.COM, amy.hale@West.Sun.COM, bill.gaita@West.Sun.COM, > > bill.swansen@West.Sun.COM, bruce.mitchell@West.Sun.COM, > > eric.zweigel@West.Sun.COM, greg.money@West.Sun.COM, > > james.danielson@West.Sun.COM, mike.basson@West.Sun.COM, > > sharon.andre@West.Sun.COM, eric@apunix.com, mike@apunix.com, > > shane@apunix.com, susan@apunix.com, chris.conlon@daou.com, > > geoff.gagne@daou.com, ron.mirabile@daou.com, bojorquez@novaquest.com, > > johnmac@webvision.com, monty@webvision.com, papadopo@novaquest.com, > > rosemary@novaquest.com > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Content-Description: cc:Mail note part > > > > > > Please be sure your teams see this and divert disaster! > > > > ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ > > Subject: WARNING !!!!! INTERNET VIRUS > > Author: Drew Boyd at BOSSALES > > Date: 8/9/96 9:43 AM > > > > > > Ciaran, > > > > This message was forwarded to me. It sounds like a real nasty virus > > potential. I thought you should see it and have it distributed > > appropriately. > > > > Drew > > > > Date: 8/5/96 3:43 PM > > > > SUBJECT: VIRUSES--IMPORTANT PLEASE READ IMMEDIATELY There is a > > computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If you receive > > an e-mail message with the subject line "Good Times", DO NOT read the > > message, DELETE it immediately. Please read the messages below. Some > > miscreant is sending e-mail under the title "Good Times" nation wide, > > if you get anything like this, DON'T DOWN LOAD THE FILE! It has a > > virus that rewrites your hard drive, obliterating anything on it. > > Please be careful and forward this mail to anyone you care about. > > > > ****************************************************************** > > WARNING!!!!!!! INTERNET VIRUS > > ****************************************************************** > > > > The FCC released a warning last Wednesday concerning a matter of major > > importance to any regular user of the Internet. Apparently a new com > > puter virus has been engineered by a user of AMERICA ON LINE that is > > unparalleled in its destructive capability. Other more well-known > > viruses such as "Stoned", "Airwolf" and "Michaelangelo" pale in > > compari son to the prospects of this newest creation by a warped > > mentality. > > > > What makes this virus so terrifying, said the FCC, is the fact that no > > program needs to be exchanged for a new computer to be infected. It > > can be spread through the existing e-mail systems of the Internet. > > Once a Computer is infected, one of several things can happen. If the > > computer contains a hard drive, that will most likely be destroyed. If > > the program is not stopped, the computer's processor will be placed in > > an nth-complexity infinite binary loop -which can severely damage the > > processor if left running that way too long. > > > > Unfortunately, most novice computer users will not realize what is > > happening until it is far too late. Luckily, there is one sure means > > of detecting what is now known as the "Good Times" virus. It always > > travels to new computers the same way in a text email message with the > > subject line reading "Good Times". > > > > Avoiding infection is easy once the file has been received simply by > > NOT READING IT! The act of loading the file into the mail server's > > ASCII buffer causes the "Good Times" mainline program to initialize > > and execute. The program is highly intelligent- it will send copies of > > itself to everyone whose e-mail address is contained in a receive-mail > > file or a sent-mail file, if it can find one. It will then proceed to > > trash the computer it is running on. > > > > The bottom line there is - if you receive a file with the subject line > > "Good Times", delete it immediately! Do not read it" Rest assured that > > whoever's name was on the "From" line was surely struck by the virus. > > Warn your friends and local system users of this newest threat to the > > Internet! It could save them a lot of time and money. > > > > Mike Basson E-Mail: mike.basson@West.Sun.COM > > Sun Microsystems, Inc. Phone: (602) 224-3520 > 2398 E. Camelback Rd., Suite 950 Fax: (602) 224-9831 > Phoenix, Arizona 85016 Oh come on.... this thing has been floating around for YEARS!!! Give it a break! Pray tell, how can a text file execute itself???? Seems like everytime this spam is dead, it rears its ugly head again, and a billion users start sending chain mail everwhere regarding the thing. YOU CANNOT GET A VIRUS SIMPLY BY READING A TEXT FILE. PERIOD. Cheers, Vivek. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 03:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24822; Thu, 15 Aug 96 03:07:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28279; Thu, 15 Aug 96 03:03:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28273; Thu, 15 Aug 96 03:03:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uqzEl-00038BC; Thu, 15 Aug 96 03:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Command Line String for Folders Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 06:00:53 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am using Pine 3.94 under SunOS 4.1.4. I dial in from a DOS PC running Procomm Plus V2. Procomm Plus allows one to set "meta" keys, Alt key combinations which will automatically play back a set of keystokes, invoke a prerecorded PCPlus script, etc. For instance, I have a meta key set up to play back the sequence pine -l -Il,i From the shell prompt, this starts Pine with folder collections expanded and goes directly into my INBOX. My problem is this. I have two folder collections defined, the first for mail folders and the second for newsgroups. What I am trying to do is set up a command line string analogous to the one above which will start Pine from the shell prompt with folder collections expanded and go to the first newsgroup ("folder," so to speak) in the second (newsgroup) collection. At this point I don't care whether it actually opens the group or not. I just want to save having to cursor all the way down into the second collection. I did come up with one command line string which went where I wanted and actually opened the first newsgroup in the collection. The only problem is that somehow my .newsrc file got bypassed, and the group was opened with something like 871 items, all that were on my news server for that group, rather than just the unread items. The solution may be right in front of my nose, but so far I haven't found it. If anyone has any ideas, I will be grateful. Thanks. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 04:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29887; Thu, 15 Aug 96 04:18:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13141; Thu, 15 Aug 96 04:13:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13135; Thu, 15 Aug 96 04:13:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ur0Ks-00038BC; Thu, 15 Aug 96 04:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matt Chatterley Subject: Re: Killfiles Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 15:37:59 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 8 Aug 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > You can't. > > This question has been asked and answered many times in this > newsgroup/mailing list over the past couple of weeks. The answer is still > "Pine 3.95 does not support kill files for e-mail or news". > > (Now shall we see how long it is before someone else asks again? :-) Let me pose a different question.. this may have been asked, but if so I missed the answer. Will pine support kill files for eMail or useNet in the near (or distant) future? :-) > Cheers, > > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, stormkloud wrote: > > > > > Hi all, I would like to know how to do "killfiles" on a newsgroup in > > PCpine. > > > > Thanks in advance for advice......sigh > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > "Listen to them, the Children of the Night, > > What sweet music they make........" > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Stormy "In the Company of Wolves" > > > > > > > Regards, -Matt Chatterley http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html "Do not meddle in the affairs of Wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger." --J.R.R Tolkien From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 07:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30953; Thu, 15 Aug 96 07:06:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15156; Thu, 15 Aug 96 07:03:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15150; Thu, 15 Aug 96 07:03:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ur2x0-00038BC; Thu, 15 Aug 96 06:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: future21@nauticom.net (Sam) Subject: http://www.sendmail.com Message-Id: <4uk0bl$ls_004@net8.nauticom.net> Date: 11 Aug 96 07:06:56 GMT If you get a chance, check out http://www.sendmail.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 07:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31037; Thu, 15 Aug 96 07:15:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15278; Thu, 15 Aug 96 07:11:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15272; Thu, 15 Aug 96 07:11:03 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 15 Aug 96 22:15:42 +0800 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 22:08:23 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Vivek Subramanian Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Virus Warning -Forwarded -Forwarded (fwd) In-Reply-To: <3212AB42.5D0C@leland.stanford.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, Vivek Subramanian wrote: > Pray tell, how can a text file execute itself???? Seems like everytime > this > spam is dead, it rears its ugly head again, and a billion users start > sending Ahhh....you have revealed the *true* nature of this virus! It is a social engineering virus which causes "billion users" to start sending this around thus taking up bandwidth, disk space, and people's time. Other than wanting to chop down this virus I suppose it has nothing to do with pine(tree). Now back to our regularly scheduled program..... Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 07:17:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31099; Thu, 15 Aug 96 07:17:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15314; Thu, 15 Aug 96 07:14:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from saul4.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15308; Thu, 15 Aug 96 07:14:11 -0700 Received: from localhost by saul4.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12629; Thu, 15 Aug 96 07:14:10 -0700 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 07:14:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Sweger Reply-To: Andrew Sweger To: Sheung-Fan C Wen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Feature Request: command to advance to top/bottom In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ^W^Y to go to the top ^W^V to go to the bottom On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, Sheung-Fan C Wen wrote: > Consider this feature in future versions of pine: to include a control key > press for advancing to the top or bottom when reading or composing a > message. Currently, when a message gets very long, you may have to hit > Ctrl-Y or Ctrl-V many times to advance to the top or bottom of the > message. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 08:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32656; Thu, 15 Aug 96 08:43:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03472; Thu, 15 Aug 96 08:34:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03466; Thu, 15 Aug 96 08:33:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ur4P5-00038TC; Thu, 15 Aug 96 08:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ranpc@saturn.mahidol.ac.th (Nantawan Phasutarnchart ) Subject: i am .......? Date: 15 Aug 1996 10:47:20 GMT Message-Id: <4uuv7o$mp9@mars.mahidol.ac.th> i sad together From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 08:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00491; Thu, 15 Aug 96 08:54:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17508; Thu, 15 Aug 96 08:46:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.kitsap.lib.wa.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17502; Thu, 15 Aug 96 08:46:28 -0700 Received: from linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us (linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us [198.187.135.22]) by mail.kitsap.lib.wa.us (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA25917; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 08:55:39 -0700 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 08:46:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Schuyler To: Steve Swain Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Virus Warning -Forwarded -Forwarded (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sigh. Again??? Hello, You've warned us about the Good Time virus. It's not real. Here's a full newsletter on the topic. Thanks for warning us, though! It's nice to know that you are concerned enough to bring this to our attention. After all, the next one might be real. Thanks again. --michael <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Automated Systems Security Incident Support Team _____ ___ ___ _____ ___ _____ | / /\ / \ / \ | / \ | | / Integritas / \ \___ \___ | \___ | | < et /____\ \ \ | \ | | \ Celeritas / \ \___/ \___/ __|__ \___/ | |_____\ <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bulletin 95-15 Release date: 24 April, 1995, 3:30 PM EDT (GMT -4) SUBJECT: E-mail virus is a hoax. SUMMARY: ASSIST has received numerous requests for information about a computer virus virus known as "Good Times" that is traversing the Internet and infects systems through e-mail. THE GOOD TIMES VIRUS MESSAGE IS A HOAX. DO NOT FORWARD THE MESSAGE ON GOOD TIMES TO OTHER PERSONS AND PROPAGATE THE RUMOR FURTHER. BACKGROUND: The Good Times hoax was initiated in late 1994 and after investigation the origination of the message was traced to a student at a university site and a user of America Online. There have been several variations of the message with a basic theme of "this electronic mail message with the subject line of "xxx-1" will infect your computer". The spread of the hoax was accelerated when many people saw a a message with "Good Times" in the header. They deleted the message without reading it, thus believing that they have saved themselves from being attacked. These first-hand reports give a false sense of credibility to the alert message. The initial Good Times incident ended in December 1994 and there was virtually no traffic on the subject until early April 1995 when another round of hoax messages began circulating on the network. The most common April 1995 version of the message contained references to public statements from the Federal Communications Commission and America Online as to Good Times being verified as a legitamate virus. This second round of Good Times messages is also a hoax and based on the same false reports as the 1994 Good Times messages. As of this time, there are no known viruses which can infect merely through reading a mail message, for a virus to infect and spread a file must be executed. Simply reading a text message does not cause execution of any files. It would be possible for malicious code to be transferred as an attachment or within the body (i.e uuencoded) of a message, but then the file would have to be decoded and separate action taken outside of a mailer to execute the file. In addition, it would be extremely difficult for malicious code to be written to infect an environment as diverse as the Internet. There are so many different types and versions of operating systems and mailers in use on the Internet that writing a piece of code that would succesfully infect any recipient of an e-mail message would be highly unlikely. It has been suggested that, theoretically, e-mail could be used to deliver and activate malicious code in mailers that would have some type of embedded automated services. An example was given of "invisible" escape sequences which affect screen display or program the keyboard to do some malicious action when some key is "accidently" pressed. This could be done through a file that remaps keys when displayed on a PC/MS-DOS machine with the ANSI.SYS driver loaded. However, this only works on MS-DOS machines with the text displayed on the screen in text mode. It would not work in Windows or in most text editors or mailers. A key could be remapped to produce any command sequence when pressed, for example DEL or FORMAT. However, the command is not issued until the remapped key is pressed and the command issued by the remapped key would be visible on the screen. You could protect yourself by removing ANSI.SYS from the CONFIG.SYS file, but many DOS programs use the functionality of ANSI.SYS to control screen functions and colors. Windows programs are not effected by ANSI.SYS, though a DOS program running in Windows would be. IMPACT: DoD personnel take unnecessary time and effort in response to a problem that does not exist. RECOMMENDED SOLUTIONS: Do not forward a notice about the Good Times virus to any other persons. Normal policy should be to scan any executable file received from any source for malicious code. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ASSIST is an element of the Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA), Center for Information Systems Security (CISS), that provides service to the entire DoD community. 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The views and opinions of authors expressed herein shall not be used for advertising or product endorsement purposes. o o o o o o o . . . _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | Kitsap Regional | | LinkNet Support | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | Library | | 'least we try! | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|____________________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ============================================================================ Support: (360) 405-9131 Fax:(360) 405-9128 support@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us Michael Schuyler: Voice:(360) 405-9139 michael@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 10:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02518; Thu, 15 Aug 96 10:17:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20199; Thu, 15 Aug 96 10:14:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20193; Thu, 15 Aug 96 10:14:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ur5xM-00038BC; Thu, 15 Aug 96 10:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kenwrick Chan Subject: Changing the default location of inbox Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <3212A1B5.22D7@hawaii.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 04:04:46 GMT Folks, What's the quick and easiest way to have Pine default to a different inbox location? Say ~/.mail ? Thanks, Ken From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 11:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04093; Thu, 15 Aug 96 11:29:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22387; Thu, 15 Aug 96 11:26:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from intfw.bear.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22381; Thu, 15 Aug 96 11:26:38 -0700 Received: by intfw.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01621; Thu, 15 Aug 96 14:26:24 EDT Received: from fastbear(165.168.74.3) by intfw via smap (V1.3) id sma000782; Thu Aug 15 14:24:08 1996 Received: from ursa2.bear.com by fastbear.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/1.0 AMR 12/15/94) id AA25333; Thu, 15 Aug 96 14:24:56 EDT Received: from whip_xfr.bear.com (whip-xfr) by ursa2.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/AMR+DJMS(2)) id AA05932; Thu, 15 Aug 96 14:25:01 EDT Received: from warlock.bsnet by whip_xfr.bear.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA29593; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 14:24:28 -0400 Received: from tiberius.bsnet by warlock.bsnet (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA09886; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 14:24:27 -0400 Received: from localhost by tiberius.bsnet (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA27322; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 14:24:24 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 14:24:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard G. Roberto" Reply-To: richr@bear.com To: Michael Schuyler Cc: Steve Swain , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Virus Warning -Forwarded -Forwarded (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Michael Schuyler wrote: > Sigh. Again??? > > > Hello, > You've warned us about the Good Time virus. It's not real. Here's a > full newsletter on the topic. Thanks for warning us, though! It's nice to > know that you are concerned enough to bring this to our attention. After > all, the next one might be real. Thanks again. > --michael > 8<--- snip 8<---- > > > As of this time, there are no known viruses which can infect merely > through reading a mail message, for a virus to infect and spread > a file must be executed. Simply reading a text message does not > cause execution of any files. It would be possible for malicious > code to be transferred as an attachment or within the body (i.e > uuencoded) of a message, but then the file would have to be > decoded and separate action taken outside of a mailer to execute > the file. In addition, it would be extremely difficult for > malicious code to be written to infect an environment as diverse > as the Internet. There are so many different types and versions > of operating systems and mailers in use on the Internet that > writing a piece of code that would succesfully infect any > recipient of an e-mail message would be highly unlikely. > > It has been suggested that, theoretically, e-mail could be used > to deliver and activate malicious code in mailers that would > have some type of embedded automated services. An example was Hmmm, what about automatic MIME type recognition? Netscape can already be configured (is by default?) to automatically launch applications associated with a MIME type. I can think of a few areas of concern here, but of course the most obvious is MIME type JAVA or JAVA SCRIPT!!! Defining MIME types for perl scripts and such is pretty dangerous too. On systems that support it, certain applications can interact with the system and do damage. For example, someone can write a lotus macro that overwrites or deletes files, or even writes a program and executes it when a .wk* file is loaded. Unix supports this functionality, and I believe NT does too. There are even more serious concerns in html itself! There's some scary things going on on the web nowadays! I've visited some pages that changed the pictures in the buttons in my Netscape browser! That's scary!! I'm glad this is just a hoax, but security is a serious concern of mine, so I'd rather get alarmed and find out its a hoax than find out the hard way that it wasn't! Just my $.02 Richard G. Roberto richr@bear.com 201-739-2886 - whippany, nj -- ******************************************************************************* Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. ******************************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 11:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04466; Thu, 15 Aug 96 11:46:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08937; Thu, 15 Aug 96 11:42:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from frank.mtsu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08931; Thu, 15 Aug 96 11:42:17 -0700 Received: from localhost by frank.mtsu.edu with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA094174621; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 13:43:41 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 13:43:41 -0500 (CDT) From: "Hiram Lester Jr." Reply-To: "Hiram Lester Jr." To: Pine Info List Subject: Re: Command Line String for Folders In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > From the shell prompt, this starts Pine with folder collections > expanded and goes directly into my INBOX. I'm not sure about your other problems, but you DO realize that the command line options you are specifying can be set up in the configuration, don't you? Look under S)etup, C)onfiguration on the main menu, and check out expanded-view-of-folders. There is also a setting for initial keystrokes near the bottom of all the setup options. This would allow you to simply type 'pine' at the shell prompt instead of 'pine -whatever' Also, if you use csh, tcsh, or another shell that allows aliases, try aliasing the command to something like this: alias pine 'pine -d0' whenever you type pine, you actually get pine -d0. I've also done this for pico since it has no way to set default options. As far as your other problem, you could try using the G)oto command in the L)ist folder screen. I think it has to be enabled in the configuration, but give it a try and see if it will work for you. +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Hiram W. Lester, Jr. | E-Mail: hwlester@pobox.com | | Computer Science | Homepage: | | Middle Tennessee State University | http://pobox.com/~hwlester/ | +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 11:49:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04489; Thu, 15 Aug 96 11:49:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09072; Thu, 15 Aug 96 11:46:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from frank.mtsu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09066; Thu, 15 Aug 96 11:46:19 -0700 Received: from localhost by frank.mtsu.edu with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA099014863; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 13:47:43 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 13:47:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "Hiram Lester Jr." To: Pine Info List Subject: Re: http://www.sendmail.com In-Reply-To: <4uk0bl$ls_004@net8.nauticom.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 11 Aug 1996, Sam wrote: > If you get a chance, check out http://www.sendmail.com Not sure what this has to do with pine exactly, but a similar service is offered by pobox.com: http://pobox.com/pobox/ +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Hiram W. Lester, Jr. | E-Mail: hwlester@pobox.com | | Computer Science | Homepage: | | Middle Tennessee State University | http://pobox.com/~hwlester/ | +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 11:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04544; Thu, 15 Aug 96 11:51:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09138; Thu, 15 Aug 96 11:48:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from frank.mtsu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09128; Thu, 15 Aug 96 11:48:17 -0700 Received: from localhost by frank.mtsu.edu with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA100774972; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 13:49:32 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 13:49:32 -0500 (CDT) From: "Hiram Lester Jr." To: Kenwrick Chan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Changing the default location of inbox In-Reply-To: <3212A1B5.22D7@hawaii.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Kenwrick Chan wrote: > Folks, > What's the quick and easiest way to have Pine default to a different > inbox location? Say ~/.mail ? From the main menu, try S)etup and then C)onfiguration. Look for a setting near the top labeled inbox-path and set it to the path you want for your inbox. +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Hiram W. Lester, Jr. | E-Mail: hwlester@pobox.com | | Computer Science | Homepage: | | Middle Tennessee State University | http://pobox.com/~hwlester/ | +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 12:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04783; Thu, 15 Aug 96 12:23:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10167; Thu, 15 Aug 96 12:20:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.Hawaii.Edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10161; Thu, 15 Aug 96 12:20:13 -0700 Received: from uhunix5.its.Hawaii.Edu ([128.171.44.55]) by relay1.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <11676(9)>; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 09:19:58 -1000 Received: from localhost by uhunix5.its.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <188962>; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 09:19:49 -1000 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 09:19:25 -1000 From: Kenwrick Chan X-Sender: kchan@uhunix5 To: "Hiram Lester Jr." Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Changing the default location of inbox In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Folks, Sorry I wasn't clear. I meant when you're compiling it for general use on a system. -kenwrick On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Hiram Lester Jr. wrote: > On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Kenwrick Chan wrote: > > > Folks, > > What's the quick and easiest way to have Pine default to a different > > inbox location? Say ~/.mail ? > > >From the main menu, try S)etup and then C)onfiguration. Look for a > setting near the top labeled inbox-path and set it to the path you want > for your inbox. > > +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ > | Hiram W. Lester, Jr. | E-Mail: hwlester@pobox.com | > | Computer Science | Homepage: | > | Middle Tennessee State University | http://pobox.com/~hwlester/ | > +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 13:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06074; Thu, 15 Aug 96 13:12:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11367; Thu, 15 Aug 96 13:09:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11359; Thu, 15 Aug 96 13:09:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ur8ir-00038BC; Thu, 15 Aug 96 13:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mike@hyperreal.com (Mike Brown) Subject: Pine 3.95 binaries: huge? Date: 14 Aug 1996 17:43:44 -0400 Message-Id: <4uthag$p1s@college.antioch.edu> After building Pine 3.95 on BSD/OS 2, I found that the binaries were HUGE compared to the previous versions: Pine 3.95: 3568K Pico 2.9: 616K Pine 3.93: 1296K Pico 2.7: 240K Pine 3.91: 984K Pico 2.5: 208K Pilot 1.1 (old build): 240K Pilot 1.1 (new build): 616K I compiled with all defaults, and I'm reasonably sure I didn't do anything special before. What's the deal? 'strip' did not reduce the binary sizes at all. Has this increase in size been everyone's experience? What is it attributable to? Am I missing something? Mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 13:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06246; Thu, 15 Aug 96 13:22:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25463; Thu, 15 Aug 96 13:19:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25455; Thu, 15 Aug 96 13:19:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ur8ot-00038BC; Thu, 15 Aug 96 13:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Pablo G. Molina" Subject: Cannot create /home/stud/username/mail directory problem Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 16:54:33 -0500 Message-Id: <32124B19.138B@server.wulaw.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Pine Gurus: I have just created 200 new accounts for incoming students. The creation process went well using the root user name -or sudo for that matter. However, when jbob -fake username- tries to get into pine, the computer replies with: pine cannot create /home/stud/jbob/mail I am sure that I am missing something about rights for Pine but what? I could manually create all the mail directories with configuration files but I am sure that there must be a way of granting access rights to Pine so that it does it automatically the first time the students log in. I am using Pine 3.91 under Free BSD 2.0.4. Please, help me. Desperado Pablo G. Molina From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 13:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28234; Thu, 15 Aug 96 13:47:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12263; Thu, 15 Aug 96 13:44:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12257; Thu, 15 Aug 96 13:44:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ur9Cx-00038BC; Thu, 15 Aug 96 13:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dudley Ames Subject: Re: Command Line String for Folders Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 14:18:57 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Paul, if your your 2nd collection is your newsgroups, and you want to start (for instance) with comp.mail.pine, the following command line string will invoke Pine and open that folder: pine -c2 -f comp.mail.pine -i The only problem with that is (at least when I do it) that Pine opens with *all* messages in that newsgroup, disregarding the ones I previously marked "D". However, when I next open Pine, and get into that folder from the Folder List screen, the newsgroup opens as it has before, with only "New" messages showing. I don't quite understand this, but if you can refine the procedure, I'd be happy to hear. Regards, -- Dudley Ames University of Arkansas dames@comp.uark.edu Quinquagenarian, but working to change the condition. cc'd & posted =============================================================== On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: ] I am using Pine 3.94 under SunOS 4.1.4. I dial in from a DOS PC ]running Procomm Plus V2. Procomm Plus allows one to set "meta" keys, ]Alt key combinations which will automatically play back a set of ]keystokes, invoke a prerecorded PCPlus script, etc. ] ] For instance, I have a meta key set up to play back the sequence ] ] pine -l -Il,i ] ]From the shell prompt, this starts Pine with folder collections ]expanded and goes directly into my INBOX. ] ] My problem is this. I have two folder collections defined, the ]first for mail folders and the second for newsgroups. What I am trying ]to do is set up a command line string analogous to the one above which ]will start Pine from the shell prompt with folder collections expanded ]and go to the first newsgroup ("folder," so to speak) in the second ](newsgroup) collection. At this point I don't care whether it actually ]opens the group or not. I just want to save having to cursor all the ]way down into the second collection. ] ] I did come up with one command line string which went where I ]wanted and actually opened the first newsgroup in the collection. The ]only problem is that somehow my .newsrc file got bypassed, and the ]group was opened with something like 871 items, all that were on my ]news server for that group, rather than just the unread items. ] ] The solution may be right in front of my nose, but so far I haven't ]found it. If anyone has any ideas, I will be grateful. ] ]Thanks. ]Paul ]---------------------------------------------------------- ]Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA ]Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key ]Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 13:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06677; Thu, 15 Aug 96 13:48:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26201; Thu, 15 Aug 96 13:45:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from baldr.metro.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26195; Thu, 15 Aug 96 13:45:57 -0700 Received: from ig156.innovation.com by baldr.metro.net (NTMail 3.02.07) with ESMTP id pa076897 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 13:48:24 -0700 Message-Id: <31E172F5.5F64@metro.net> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 13:43:33 -0700 From: Robert Bidleman Reply-To: robbee@metro.net Organization: HERBAL HALL X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5a (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: no inbox/cannot send mail without remote folder open Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am using PC PINE on a 486/100 with a PPP. I have set the config and can hear trumpet dialing up but I can never get into the inbox. The error message reads "no inbox found". I set the path as: C:\PINE\inbox and also used the default it gives me which is just "inbox". Nothing works. Do I need to point to a dir on the server (PPP)? Also when I try to compose a message I get "cannot send mail without a remote folder open". I am using the values (SMTP, etc) as I do with my other mail programs but with no success. Thanks, Rob - robbee@metro.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 16:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09337; Thu, 15 Aug 96 16:31:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00813; Thu, 15 Aug 96 16:29:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00807; Thu, 15 Aug 96 16:29:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urBn6-00038BC; Thu, 15 Aug 96 16:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Finn Hybjerg Hansen Subject: Options in 3.95... Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 11:00:37 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Could anyone give me further explanation on these options in the .pinerc file (what to write, and the effect)? : # Which category default print command is in personal-print-category= # Sets the version number Pine will use as a threshold for offering # its new version message on startup. new-version-threshold= Regards from Finn in Denmark --------------------------------------- Aalborg University Institute of Electronic Systems Department of Communication Technology Aalborg ,,, DENMARK (o o) ------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo---- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 16:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09628; Thu, 15 Aug 96 16:46:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17297; Thu, 15 Aug 96 16:44:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17291; Thu, 15 Aug 96 16:44:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urC1w-00038BC; Thu, 15 Aug 96 16:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andrew Hunt Subject: remotely collect mail from an ISP. Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 18:36:27 -0600 Message-Id: <3213C28B.7616@wolfram.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have read the FAQ and even searched the Archives but I'm still unclear about how to accomplish this... What I want to do is use pine to remotely collect mail from an ISP. I have changed the user-domain=, smtp-server=, inbox-path=, incoming-folders= to reflect this but with no luck... Here's what I have in the .pinerc: user-domain=wolfsong.com smtp-server=mailhost.wolfsong.com inbox-path={mailhost.wolfsong.com/user=andywolf}INBOX incoming-folders={mailhost.wolfsong.com/user=andywolf}INBOX This gives the error [Can't open mailbox ... invalid remote specif] Any ideas? ah. --------------------------------------------------------------- Andy Hunt Designer, Electronic Documents 217-398-0700 ext.260 Wolfram Research, Inc. http://www.wolfram.com/~andy andy@wolfram.com fax: 217-398-0747 --------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 16:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09752; Thu, 15 Aug 96 16:57:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01509; Thu, 15 Aug 96 16:54:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01503; Thu, 15 Aug 96 16:54:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urCCR-00038BC; Thu, 15 Aug 96 16:51 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lcorsa@enter.net (Larry Corsa) Subject: "Bad msgno..." error. Date: 15 Aug 1996 10:36:06 GMT Message-Id: <4uuuim$71t@news.enter.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Hi, Can someone tell me the cause of the following error: Bug in Pine detected: "Bad msgno in mail_fetchstructure". Exiting pine. Version is 3.91. Thanks for your input! -- Larry **************************************************** ENTER.NET - The Road to the Internet Starts Here! (tm) (610) 366-1300 * http://www.enter.net * email:info@enter.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 17:16:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09991; Thu, 15 Aug 96 17:16:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18115; Thu, 15 Aug 96 17:15:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18100; Thu, 15 Aug 96 17:14:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urCXW-00038BC; Thu, 15 Aug 96 17:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Haggai Shachar Subject: question Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 22:40:53 +0300 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello all i have a queastion .. how do i exit for a msg (newsgroup) back to the msgs list ?? Haggai. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 17:21:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09836; Thu, 15 Aug 96 17:21:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02209; Thu, 15 Aug 96 17:19:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02203; Thu, 15 Aug 96 17:19:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urCZF-00038BC; Thu, 15 Aug 96 17:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pchase@is.dal.ca (PCHASE) Subject: Reseting .pinerc Date: 13 Aug 1996 21:07:41 GMT Message-Id: <4uqqqt$9pt@News.Dal.Ca> Can you do it on V3.95 with a unix command? If so, what is the command? Thanks...... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 17:47:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10499; Thu, 15 Aug 96 17:47:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18705; Thu, 15 Aug 96 17:45:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18699; Thu, 15 Aug 96 17:45:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urCxO-00038BC; Thu, 15 Aug 96 17:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Pine questions Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 20:39:50 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Col.Brewster wrote: > I have two questions regarding pine. Is there a way to make pine > automatically uudecode or unzip a text file received through email? [...] > > Next, is there a way to make pine automatically go through a message I'm > composing and "justify" the entire thing. It takes a long time going > through a document and doing every paragraph manually. Unfortunately, the answer to both your questions is, No. If you're using Pine under Un*x, you might be able to set up procmail to do any uudecoding or unzipping for you automatically (if you can reliably identify the file types in incoming mail). From your second question, I presume you are using Pine's built-in composer. You have the option of specifying a much more powerful editor if you wish (vi, emacs, whatever horror turns you on), and that alternate editor may have such a justification capability. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 19:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11534; Thu, 15 Aug 96 19:22:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04111; Thu, 15 Aug 96 19:20:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04105; Thu, 15 Aug 96 19:20:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urEUd-00038BC; Thu, 15 Aug 96 19:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: afrotc@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU Subject: Can't get "|" command to work? Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 18:14:36 CST Message-Id: References: <4uqai2$fg3@rain.psg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4uqai2$fg3@rain.psg.com> On 13 Aug 1996 brian@asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca wrote: > Hi, > > On 08/13/96 at 10:20 AM, you said: > > >Thanks for the info, but I'm not real proficient in working with Pine pipe > >commands. Could you give me an example of the syntax used on the UNIX. > > simply when reading the message, press the "|" key, then type in "uudecode" > This will result in the file being created in your present directory. > > B. > -- > "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe...Attack ships on fire off the > shoulder of Orion...I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tan Hauser > Gate...all these moments will be lost..like tears in the rain." - Roy Batty, > in Bladerunner > > Brian P. Hampson ASL Analytical Service Laboratories Ltd > System Administrator, Vancouver, BC (604)253-4188 > ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/----------------------------- > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 19:37:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11713; Thu, 15 Aug 96 19:37:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20316; Thu, 15 Aug 96 19:35:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20310; Thu, 15 Aug 96 19:35:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urEhB-00038BC; Thu, 15 Aug 96 19:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "David S. Kenzik" Subject: REPOST: Pico question concerning xterms Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 22:12:58 -0400 Message-Id: References: <320DF2B6.6F66@time.alien.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <320DF2B6.6F66@time.alien.net> : Is there any way that the standalone binary for pico can support the : mouse in the same manner that Pine does? : : I'm quite happy that the support was added to pine, but I also use pico : constantly and it would be a great feature. I only hope that it's not : just available in the pico library that Pine uses. : : I apologise if this was mentioned somewhere (obscure?), but I didn't : find anything in any FAQ or mail archives. : : Thank you, : : David S. Kenzik : -- : OneNet Communications : New Media - Director : http://www.one.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 19:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11717; Thu, 15 Aug 96 19:42:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04403; Thu, 15 Aug 96 19:41:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc1.nerc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04397; Thu, 15 Aug 96 19:41:11 -0700 Received: from nerc.com (ppp8.nerc.com [205.247.120.208]) by nerc1.nerc.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA29393; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 22:41:12 -0400 Received: (from luomat@localhost) by nerc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA13556; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 22:40:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199608160240.WAA13556@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: <4uqqqt$9pt@News.Dal.Ca> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.3) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Thu, 15 Aug 96 22:40:31 -0400 To: pchase@is.dal.ca (PCHASE) Subject: Re: Reseting .pinerc Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Reply-To: luomat@nerc.com References: <4uqqqt$9pt@News.Dal.Ca> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary pchase@is.dal.ca (PCHASE) on 13 Aug 1996 wrote: > Can you do it on V3.95 with a unix command? If so, what is the > command? Thanks...... You mean reset .pinerc to its initial state? I think you can accomplish this via: yourprompt> mv .pinerc .pinerc.old && pine (ie if you move the .pinerc file to another name [as a backup in case you want to go back later] and then start pine I think it will make a new .pinerc file with the default settings) TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma http://www.nerc.com/~luomat My USENET feed is slow and not very reliable NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info NeXT Information: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 19:55:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11805; Thu, 15 Aug 96 19:55:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20575; Thu, 15 Aug 96 19:53:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20569; Thu, 15 Aug 96 19:53:16 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 16 Aug 96 10:57:58 +0800 Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 10:50:37 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: afrotc@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Can't get "|" command to work? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 15 Aug 1996 afrotc@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU wrote: > On 13 Aug 1996 brian@asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On 08/13/96 at 10:20 AM, you said: > > > > >Thanks for the info, but I'm not real proficient in working with Pine pipe > > >commands. Could you give me an example of the syntax used on the UNIX. > > > > simply when reading the message, press the "|" key, then type in "uudecode" > > This will result in the file being created in your present directory. ??????? All you have done is quoted what other people have said.... Are you saying that your question/comment is in the subject line? Are you really expecting people to help you with so little information? Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 20:37:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12223; Thu, 15 Aug 96 20:37:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05041; Thu, 15 Aug 96 20:35:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05035; Thu, 15 Aug 96 20:35:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urFgN-00038BC; Thu, 15 Aug 96 20:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Command Line String for Folders Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 20:32:46 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 15 Aug 1996, Hiram Lester Jr. wrote: > On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > > > From the shell prompt, this starts Pine with folder collections > > expanded and goes directly into my INBOX. > > I'm not sure about your other problems, but you DO realize that the > command line options you are specifying can be set up in the > configuration, don't you? [...] Yes, I am aware of this as well as of the shell aliasing options you memntioned. However, I deliberately start Pine in different ways at different times for reasons of my own, so I don't want any one particular way hard coded. That's why I use the meta key capability of my software so that I can start Pine the way I want at any one time. > As far as your other problem, you could try using the G)oto command in the > L)ist folder screen. I think it has to be enabled in the configuration, > but give it a try and see if it will work for you. As for the G)oto option, it only works (at least with my configuration) within one folder collection, so when I start Pine and display the collections, the highlight is in the first collection, and I cannot G)oto a folder in the second collection. (I've tried it.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 22:08:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13305; Thu, 15 Aug 96 22:08:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06327; Thu, 15 Aug 96 22:06:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06321; Thu, 15 Aug 96 22:06:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urH3q-00038TC; Thu, 15 Aug 96 22:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Y command Date: 11 Aug 1996 04:51:27 GMT Message-Id: <4ujosf$o3c@star.epix.net> References: <4udc4k$rmv@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Adam Vardy (abe0084@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca) wrote: : On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Hans Schleichert wrote: : > On 8 Aug 1996, Adam Vardy wrote: : > > Can someone tell me about this command? When I hit ? for help and scroll : > > down through that, I can see no mention of this command. Why doesn't Pine : > > tell me what it does? : > Depends on the situation. The short menu at the bottom of the screen tells : > you what Y does. Sometimes (for example, in the message viewer) it's on : It says Print. That is it! : Which has little significance to me since I am at home, and printing a : file on a printer from the host machine has no relevance. If you have a printer attached to your machine at home, why not just turn the freaking thing on and see if it works, instead of arguing about it? If it doesn't work, maybe you have some (s)etup (c)onfig or (s)etup (p)rinter option changes to make. Your system is using PINE 3.91 whereas the latest is 3.95 but that shouldn't make a difference (someone correct me if I'm wrong) because 3.91 also supports printing to a local printer using ascii escape sequences. It may not work if your using a win95 dialer, but if you post what your specific problem is, there's lottsa people here who probably know the answer. : > the second page (use O Other commands to scroll menu pages). With respect : > to messages, Y means print (they spell it prYnt). When prompted yes/no, it : > means yes. : I still have no clue what it does. Someone suggested to me that I use it : for some purpose. The PURPOSE is to PRINT! Why is that so difficult to understand? Print ... as in put an electronic message on a piece of paper with a ribbon soaked with ink.;-) : Why doesn't Pine Help describe it? It does ... it says Y means prYnt as in print. : - Adam : PS. Does Pine have a FAQ? Yes certainly it does. And it also has context sensitive help screens, as in Setup Printer for example. BYE. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 22:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13325; Thu, 15 Aug 96 22:08:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22439; Thu, 15 Aug 96 22:05:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22433; Thu, 15 Aug 96 22:05:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urH1x-00038BC; Thu, 15 Aug 96 22:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: pine 3.91 under IRIX 5.3 Date: 13 Aug 1996 13:23:40 GMT Message-Id: <4upvks$57d@babbage.ece.uc.edu> References: <320F6E5F.41C6@daac.gsfc.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <320F6E5F.41C6@daac.gsfc.nasa.gov>, Tony Gualtieri writes: >I would like to know if anyone has installed pine 3.91 under IRIX 5.3. >If so, could you send me details on what build or makefile modification >are necessary. I have compiled Pine under Irix 5.3 from 3.91 to 3.95. I cannot remember exactly what the command was, but it was the one mentioned in Pine instructions. I think it was "build sgi". If it is wrong, you can do a "build help" to see which spelling is right. You should consider 3.95 instead of 3.91. There are some new features since 3.92. Cheers! Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu for my PGP pub. key= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 23:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13424; Thu, 15 Aug 96 23:04:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07021; Thu, 15 Aug 96 23:01:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from frank.mtsu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07015; Thu, 15 Aug 96 23:01:22 -0700 Received: from localhost by frank.mtsu.edu with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA217965365; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 01:02:45 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 01:02:44 -0500 (CDT) From: "Hiram Lester Jr." To: Paul O Bartlett Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Command Line String for Folders In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > As for the G)oto option, it only works (at least with my > configuration) within one folder collection, so when I start Pine and > display the collections, the highlight is in the first collection, and > I cannot G)oto a folder in the second collection. (I've tried it.) Ok, try Ctrl-N and Ctrl-P to change folder collections in the G)oto screen. I just checked all the way back to 3.91, and it works there. +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Hiram W. Lester, Jr. | E-Mail: hwlester@pobox.com | | Computer Science | Homepage: | | Middle Tennessee State University | http://pobox.com/~hwlester/ | +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 23:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11783; Thu, 15 Aug 96 23:04:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06941; Thu, 15 Aug 96 22:57:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06935; Thu, 15 Aug 96 22:57:22 -0700 Received: from interl.net (root@pm2-adr35.interl.net [205.244.161.35]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA30862 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 00:56:46 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 00:57:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Englander X-Sender: root@interl.net To: pine-info Subject: Virus *HOAX* In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Chip Old wrote: > Hoax alert! Hoax alert! I second that! > This is the infamous "Good Times Virus" hoax that has been resurfacing > about every six months for the past two or three years. The Good Times > virus does not exist, nor has the FCC ever issued a warning about it, nor > can you transmit a virus in the manner described. > > Please don't waste bandwidth by redistributing this rubbish. Forget 2 or 3 years, the first time I saw that warning was on my BBS about 7 years ago! It's been all over FidoNet, AOL, Prodigy, CompuServe, etc., etc., etc., etc... It is a hoax everyone, it's not true, and think about it, how could you possibly become infected that way?! Later, Jason =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jason Englander -=- Burlington, IA - USA E-mail: jasoneng@interl.net necrojason@geocities.com WWW: http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7485 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMhQNjyGB07hAGnFhAQGnDQQA5wtt7JVQIhQTZWrZWmmekTOfAm/dPDP/ MdolBfjzZpyQidy2iKaIq4ct4NBuI6IcrOys91dbci7Kn8v3+9d1dgn9aihfmPQB TZCf/DtWmL4cX6SOwf0lf/AfcxjpasTRcHAG6eRRt1TIpI8tq4kG88rvo9XPKLxx gUIiNFqw5Go= =UIgA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 01:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14630; Fri, 16 Aug 96 01:08:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24738; Fri, 16 Aug 96 01:05:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24732; Fri, 16 Aug 96 01:05:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urJt0-00038BC; Fri, 16 Aug 96 01:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jungshik@net161-61.student.yale.edu (Jungshik Shin) Subject: Re: Virus Warning -Forwarded -Forwarded (fwd) Date: 16 Aug 1996 04:03:09 -0400 Message-Id: <4v19vt$83f@net161-61.student.yale.edu> References: Richard G. Roberto wrote: : On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Michael Schuyler wrote: : Hmmm, what about automatic MIME type recognition? Netscape : can already be configured (is by default?) to automatically : launch applications associated with a MIME type. I can : think of a few areas of concern here, but of course the most : obvious is MIME type JAVA or JAVA SCRIPT!!! Defining MIME : types for perl scripts and such is pretty dangerous too. On Postscript with malicious code is also a concern if MUA is configured to launch PS interpreter like ghostscript automatically. One has to give '-Safer'(not exact syntax) option to ghostscript in mailcap file. As you said, Java and JavaScript impose much bigger threats, I guess, though. Just my $0.02... Jungshik Shin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 01:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14641; Fri, 16 Aug 96 01:25:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24958; Fri, 16 Aug 96 01:23:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24952; Fri, 16 Aug 96 01:23:57 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 16 Aug 1996 09:21:38 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA05964; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 09:23:40 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 09:23:39 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Kenwrick Chan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Changing the default location of inbox In-Reply-To: <3212A1B5.22D7@hawaii.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Try looking in Pine's Setup Configuration screen (S then C from its Main Menu). There you will see a very interesting looking configuration variable called "inbox-path". It even has contaxt-sensitive help to tell you what it is for! :-) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Kenwrick Chan wrote: > Folks, > What's the quick and easiest way to have Pine default to a different > inbox location? Say ~/.mail ? > > Thanks, > Ken > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 06:11:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16640; Fri, 16 Aug 96 06:11:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28441; Fri, 16 Aug 96 06:08:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from access5.digex.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28435; Fri, 16 Aug 96 06:08:10 -0700 Received: from localhost (pobart@localhost) by access5.digex.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA01384 ; for ; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 09:08:08 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 09:08:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul O Bartlett X-Sender: pobart@access5.digex.net To: "Hiram Lester Jr." Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Command Line String for Folders In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-No-Archive: yes Organization: Express Access Private Account Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Hiram Lester Jr. wrote: > On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > > > As for the G)oto option, it only works (at least with my > > configuration) within one folder collection, so when I start Pine and > > display the collections, the highlight is in the first collection, and > > I cannot G)oto a folder in the second collection. (I've tried it.) > > Ok, try Ctrl-N and Ctrl-P to change folder collections in the G)oto > screen. I just checked all the way back to 3.91, and it works there. This works manually, and I appreciate the information. I am still having some trouble getting it setup on a playback (meta) key. When I include the name of the first newsgroup in the second folder collection, Pine complains about bad keystrokes "sci.lang" (the name of my first folder in the second collection) with a cryptic message about a possible missing comma. Then it puts me at the G)oto prompt for the second collection rather than automatically opening the newsgroup. Probably I need to do a little more experimenting with it. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 07:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17909; Fri, 16 Aug 96 07:59:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13607; Fri, 16 Aug 96 07:55:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from phantom.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13601; Fri, 16 Aug 96 07:55:46 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by phantom.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.07) with SMTP id HAA26272; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 07:55:21 -0700 Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 07:55:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Kenwrick Chan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Changing the default location of inbox In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII No need to recompile; just set it in the global pine.conf file. -teg On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Kenwrick Chan wrote: > Folks, > Sorry I wasn't clear. I meant when you're compiling it for general use on > a system. > > -kenwrick > > On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Hiram Lester Jr. wrote: > > > On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Kenwrick Chan wrote: > > > > > Folks, > > > What's the quick and easiest way to have Pine default to a different > > > inbox location? Say ~/.mail ? > > > > >From the main menu, try S)etup and then C)onfiguration. Look for a > > setting near the top labeled inbox-path and set it to the path you want > > for your inbox. > > > > +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ > > | Hiram W. Lester, Jr. | E-Mail: hwlester@pobox.com | > > | Computer Science | Homepage: | > > | Middle Tennessee State University | http://pobox.com/~hwlester/ | > > +------------------------------------+-------------------------------+ > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 08:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18387; Fri, 16 Aug 96 08:18:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14085; Fri, 16 Aug 96 08:16:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14079; Fri, 16 Aug 96 08:16:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urQYi-00038BC; Fri, 16 Aug 96 08:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jie.yuan@uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 binaries: huge? Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 08:05:23 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4uthag$p1s@college.antioch.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <4uthag$p1s@college.antioch.edu>, mike@hyperreal.com (Mike Brown) wrote: > After building Pine 3.95 on BSD/OS 2, I found that the binaries were > HUGE compared to the previous versions: > > Pine 3.95: 3568K Pico 2.9: 616K > Pine 3.93: 1296K Pico 2.7: 240K > Pine 3.91: 984K Pico 2.5: 208K > > Pilot 1.1 (old build): 240K > Pilot 1.1 (new build): 616K Good point! On my SGI (Irix 5.3), Pine 3.95 is also about 3.5MB. Jie --Jie Yuan - Pharmacology & Cell Biophysics - U. Cincinnati -- --POBox 670575, 231 Bethesda Av., Cincinnati, OH 45267-0575 -- --jie.yuan@uc.edu - http://www.uc.edu/~yuanj From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 10:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21729; Fri, 16 Aug 96 10:24:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18233; Fri, 16 Aug 96 10:22:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from maple.sover.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18227; Fri, 16 Aug 96 10:22:09 -0700 Received: from bhcuucp.UUCP (bhcuucp@localhost) by maple.sover.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with UUCP id NAA18519 for Pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 13:20:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: maple.sover.net: bhcuucp set sender to bhcuucp!bman using -f Received: by bhcuucp.bh-on-lc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA11306; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 13:18:00 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 13:18:00 -0400 From: bhcuucp!bman@maple.sover.net (bman@bh-on-lc.com) Posted-Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 13:18:00 -0400 Message-Id: <9608161718.AA11306@bhcuucp.bh-on-lc.com> To: sover!Pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: HELP!! I just subscribed to the group, but looking for some help this afternoon. Here's the story: pinex.x.gz downloaded from ftp site gunzip pinex.x.gz tar -xf pinex.x gz cd pine3.95 build clean build a32 After those commands, I changed to the bin directory and tried to execute pine, but NOTHING after about a minute a command line is returned. Pico and Pilot both work but the problem is Pine. Looking forward to hearing from you. Brian ********************************************************* * Brian Goodyear (802)475-2311 * * Basin Harbor Club fax (802)475-6545 * * Basin Harbor Road bman@bh-on-lc.com * * Vergennes,VT 05491 * * * * http://www.bh-on-lc.com * * * ********************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 11:23:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23096; Fri, 16 Aug 96 11:23:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06569; Fri, 16 Aug 96 11:21:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06562; Fri, 16 Aug 96 11:21:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urTUM-00038BC; Fri, 16 Aug 96 11:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ng Pheng Siong Subject: Re: Memory Leak? Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 08:06:13 +0800 Message-Id: References: <4uosff$lmu@raffles.technet.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 13 Aug 1996, David L Miller wrote: > We don't know of any significant memory leaks in Pine 3.95. What > alternate editor are you using and what is the system load like when > this occurs? Editor is /bin/vi, invoked implicitly. Machine is Solaris 2.5, Sparc 5, 32MB. My desktop; typically 3 xterms, 1 www browser. Only server is SMTP (qmail ;). Load is low. When this occurs, I'd quit Pine and restart, and it'll be ok. Cheers. - PS -- Ng Pheng Siong * Finger for PGP key. Pacific Internet Pte Ltd * Singapore Fast, secure, cheap. Pick two. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 12:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23464; Fri, 16 Aug 96 12:28:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21595; Fri, 16 Aug 96 12:25:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sluvca.slu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21589; Fri, 16 Aug 96 12:25:28 -0700 Received: from SLUVCA.SLU.EDU by SLUVCA.SLU.EDU (PMDF V5.0-7 #5070) id <01I8CHPK66SG9QVEPR@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU>; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 14:23:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 14:23:18 -0600 (CST) From: afrotc@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU Subject: Can"t get message text to work, just subject line HELP In-Reply-To: To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Thu, 15 Aug 1996 afrotc@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU wrote: > > > On 13 Aug 1996 brian@asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On 08/13/96 at 10:20 AM, you said: > > > > > > >Thanks for the info, but I'm not real proficient in working with Pine pipe > > > >commands. Could you give me an example of the syntax used on the UNIX. > > > > > > simply when reading the message, press the "|" key, then type in "uudecode" > > > This will result in the file being created in your present directory. > > ??????? > > All you have done is quoted what other people have said.... > > Are you saying that your question/comment is in the subject line? > Are you really expecting people to help you with so little information? > > Ed > > ----- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 12:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23980; Fri, 16 Aug 96 12:39:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21862; Fri, 16 Aug 96 12:37:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21856; Fri, 16 Aug 96 12:37:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urUci-00038BC; Fri, 16 Aug 96 12:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andreas@klemm.gtn.com (Andreas Klemm) Subject: Re: Questions Need ANSWER WILL PAY $$ for ANswer Date: 16 Aug 1996 16:25:46 GMT Message-Id: <4v27ea$2hm@klemm.gtn.com> References: <3213CDD0.408F@ma.ultranet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Uhhh, that all sounds not very serious ... If I read, how much knowledge you have in this area, how many spelling errors you have in this document ... If I were decision maker in a company, I'd prefer to get an account on Compuserve or America Online or whatever (what sounds more professional than your ideas) instead of getting some strange obfuscated services from you ... Definitively ! Sorry to say this ... Andreas /// -- andreas@klemm.gtn.com /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ Support Unix -- andreas.klemm@wup.de pgp p-key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html >>> powered by <<< ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz >>> FreeBSD <<< From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 14:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26423; Fri, 16 Aug 96 14:09:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10941; Fri, 16 Aug 96 14:07:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10935; Fri, 16 Aug 96 14:07:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urW3F-00038UC; Fri, 16 Aug 96 14:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: saving mail to INBOX Date: 16 Aug 1996 18:50:37 GMT Message-Id: <4v2ftt$1j3@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: Un jour, Ed (erm4370@silver.sdsmt.edu) affirmait publiquement que: | I tried to save a message from a folder to my INBOX using the 's' | command. Well, the message isn't in my INBOX, and it got deleted from | my other folder. Can anyone tell me where it went or how to get it | back? You may want to look in your INBOX in your "Folder-collection" instead of the one in "Incoming Message Folders". HTH... | (please reply to me since I'm not on the mailing-list) BTW, what mailing-list? __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ Les sots mettent du temps pour comprendre. Les intellignets pour ne pas comprendre. -- G. Perros From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 14:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27232; Fri, 16 Aug 96 14:58:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12247; Fri, 16 Aug 96 14:57:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sluvca.slu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12241; Fri, 16 Aug 96 14:57:03 -0700 Received: from SLUVCA.SLU.EDU by SLUVCA.SLU.EDU (PMDF V5.0-7 #5070) id <01I8CN0SMALY9QVF5U@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU>; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 16:55:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 16:55:08 -0600 (CST) From: afrotc@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU Subject: Re: Attachments in Pine from other Mail servers In-Reply-To: To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Thanks for your help, sorry for the confusion on the previous messages, I had to rework my configuration file to solve a problem with sending messages. Please see my last posting on "Comp.mail.pine" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 16:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29022; Fri, 16 Aug 96 16:29:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27690; Fri, 16 Aug 96 16:27:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27684; Fri, 16 Aug 96 16:27:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urYGg-00038BC; Fri, 16 Aug 96 16:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 binaries: huge? Date: 15 Aug 1996 22:28:20 -0500 Message-Id: <4v0psk$lk5@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: <4uthag$p1s@college.antioch.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <4uthag$p1s@college.antioch.edu>, Mike Brown wrote: > After building Pine 3.95 on BSD/OS 2, I found that the binaries were > HUGE compared to the previous versions: > > Pine 3.95: 3568K Pico 2.9: 616K > Pine 3.93: 1296K Pico 2.7: 240K > Pine 3.91: 984K Pico 2.5: 208K > > Pilot 1.1 (old build): 240K > Pilot 1.1 (new build): 616K > > I compiled with all defaults, and I'm reasonably sure I didn't > do anything special before. What's the deal? What does `file' say? In particular, are the new binaries statically linked, by any chance? > 'strip' did not reduce the binary sizes at all. Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 16:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28623; Fri, 16 Aug 96 16:29:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14427; Fri, 16 Aug 96 16:27:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14421; Fri, 16 Aug 96 16:27:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urYH0-00038TC; Fri, 16 Aug 96 16:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: Killfiles Date: 15 Aug 1996 22:45:15 -0500 Message-Id: <4v0qsb$je6@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article , Matt Chatterley wrote: > Let me pose a different question.. this may have been asked, but if so I > missed the answer. > > Will pine support kill files for eMail or useNet in the near (or distant) > future? :-) Matt- I don't mean to get medieval on you, but if you have read the numerous posts about filtering email you should see (or at least see that the devlopers and others feel) that it's not the business of the mail client to do filtering to different folders, at least on Unix machines. If you want to filter your email, use procmail (or Elm's filter, though Sven says thats become unsupported). I say "...at least on Unix machines" because one could argue that on PCs where one connects to a server and possibly downloads all their email, it may be nice to have the downloading program seperate the email into folders based on certain criteria. I won't argue this point either way. As far as killfiles/memorized commands for Usenet news, I asked the pine developers about this and they said it was a feature they intend to add in a future release. It's my opinion that if you read more than a couple of newsgroups that receive any traffic whatsoever, memorized commands alone won't be enough to make pine worthwhile as more than a toy newsreader, though. Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 17:06:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29777; Fri, 16 Aug 96 17:06:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28602; Fri, 16 Aug 96 17:05:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pure.pure.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28594; Fri, 16 Aug 96 17:05:21 -0700 Received: from blade.pure.com (blade.pure.com [192.232.3.15]) by pure.pure.com (8.7.5/8.7.3/PURE) with SMTP id RAA09946 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 17:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by blade.pure.com (5.x/CLIENT-1.0) id AA09462; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 17:05:09 -0700 Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 17:05:07 -0700 (PDT) From: David Kafrissen X-Sender: davidk@blade Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: imap pop smtp and remote folder collections In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings, Has anyone used remote folders collections? Can they share there experiences and what needs to happen to set that up? Can anyone give a synopsis of the differences between the protocols? I have two things that I would like to do. 1) I have two different Unix accounts in two different domains and I would like one local copy of Pine to read the remote folders yet have it look local. 2) I am also interested in setting up PC Pine and read both Unix account folders rather than logging into one Unix account. Can this be done? Thanks in advance! David Kafrissen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 18:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30162; Fri, 16 Aug 96 18:04:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29411; Fri, 16 Aug 96 18:02:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29405; Fri, 16 Aug 96 18:02:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urZj1-00038BC; Fri, 16 Aug 96 17:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Richard Loose Subject: Macintosh Printer Problems Date: 16 Aug 1996 22:44:51 GMT Message-Id: <4v2tl3$4ks@lace.colorado.edu> Several members of our networked office, using Mac 7200 and 7100 machines and Pine v3.95 and Pine 3.93 (our mail server is a Unix box running these versions), have had print-through problems. Only certain messages--or from certain senders--affect the printing. The problem is that when using the 'Y' command and confirming printing, the computer simply hangs. While not exhaustive, we have begun investigating and found some senders are using Microsoft Exchange. Another might be using Eudora Lite. Anyone with similar problems? Any possible solutions? Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 18:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30346; Fri, 16 Aug 96 18:24:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16465; Fri, 16 Aug 96 18:17:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16459; Fri, 16 Aug 96 18:17:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ura0p-00038BC; Fri, 16 Aug 96 18:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Richard Loose Subject: Re: print bug Date: 16 Aug 1996 22:40:19 GMT Message-Id: <4v2tcj$4ks@lace.colorado.edu> References: <> brs@u.washington.edu (Barbara Schwartz) writes: > I have had a terrible time printing from Pine, UWin, etc. The > computer sooner or later gets frozen, even though I have done nothing > wrong, so far as I can tell. > If there is a way to avoid crashing my computer again and again, I > would be very happy to hear it. This is very time-consuming. > The most recent occurrence was this morning, when I accessed an > old "sent mail" and printed it out. The capture never went off, the > computer would not respond, I had to reboot. > Please help. > We have had a similar problem using both personal LaserWriters and Networked LaserWriters from Mac 7200 and 7100 class machines. Only some pine messages are affected, but when trying to print them, the machine hangs indefinitely; only way to correct it is to re-start. In our investigations, we have come to realize that the senders of some of these messages are using Microsoft Exchange. Anyone have a similar problem? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 19:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30633; Fri, 16 Aug 96 19:14:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00421; Fri, 16 Aug 96 19:12:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00415; Fri, 16 Aug 96 19:12:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uraoP-00038BC; Fri, 16 Aug 96 19:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Kafrissen Subject: Re: lists my name and not sent to: Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 12:56:22 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Greetings, Sorry about the bother. I have figured out my problem. It is because my mail domain is not complete so what appears in my sent mail folder depends on which machine I log into! Sorry about the trouble. So the next question is how do I set the mail domain? I cannot look at ir right now. Whenever I start Pine it give me an error that the mail domain is incorrect. Thanks in advance David Kafrissen On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, David Kafrissen wrote: > Paul, > > Thanks for the prompt reply. I did play with the index-format > specification. I do not think that is my problem however. It was blank to > begin with. > > Thanks > > David Kafrissen > > > On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Paul Mitchell wrote: > > > On 12 Aug 1996, David Kafrissen wrote: > > > > > Some of the messages in my sent-mail folder when viewed show my name and > > > not who they were sent to. Some messages when viewed show who they were > > > sent to (which is the prefered behavior). I have looked at the messages in > > > the Unix tool less and I can not see the difference between the two sets > > > of messages. > > > > > > Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? This is very annoying! > > > > > > > Solved the problem, finally. Check out the config entry: > > > > index-format > > > > Mine had an entry which included the From: field (possibly to cure the > > situation where you look at a letter you posted to a newsgroup and it has > > replaced your name with To: field entry). > > > > Removing the entry (going with the default) solved the problem. > > > > Paul > > > > ============================================================================== > > Paul Mitchell email: paulm@thing.oit.unc.edu > > Office of Information Technology phone: (919) 962-5259 > > University of North Carolina > > ============================================================================== > > > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 19:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30791; Fri, 16 Aug 96 19:34:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17433; Fri, 16 Aug 96 19:32:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17427; Fri, 16 Aug 96 19:32:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urb84-00038BC; Fri, 16 Aug 96 19:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: davidk@pure.com (David Kafrissen) Subject: Re: bug/complaint/help? Date: 16 Aug 1996 19:59:14 GMT Message-Id: <4v2jui$q3k@saturn.pure.com> References: <4ute26$j3f@decaxp.harvard.edu> I have the same problem but I figure it out. After reading the posting below. When I get into Pine I get the error message that it had an incomplete mail domain. Therefore depending on which machine I log into causes my sent mail folder to look different. When I have some time I will look into how to set the mail domain. Is it easy to do? Thanks David Kafrissen Lisa Friedland (lfriedl@course2.harvard.edu) wrote: : : On 20 May 1996, Elaine Reuben wrote: : : :>The contents of various folder(s) of sent mail are now/suddenly : : :>all listed by _my name_, rather than by name of _person to whom_ : : :>sent. Thus, to find almost any such message for whatever reasons : : :> : Barry Landy (bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk) wrote: : : Pine needs to know your email address in order to distinguish mail from : : you and mail to you. Something has presumably changed with your default : : address (or Pine's knowledge of it). : I have a similar problem: The contents of my sent-mail folders started : being listed by _my_ name. After a point the problem was evidently : fixed; mail sent since Jul 31 is listed correctly. However, everything : I have saved from before then is still listed by my name. I tried : adding an address under alt-adresses--no luck. Can anyone help? : Thank you, : -Lisa -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ David Kafrissen, Technical Support Engineer Tel: (408) 720 1600 Pure Software, Inc. Fax: (408) 720 9200 1309 S. Mary Avenue email: support@pure.com Sunnyvale, CA 94087 http://www.pure.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 20:54:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20937; Fri, 16 Aug 96 20:54:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01464; Fri, 16 Aug 96 20:47:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01452; Fri, 16 Aug 96 20:47:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urcIX-00038BC; Fri, 16 Aug 96 20:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Kafrissen Subject: Re: lists my name and not sent to: Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 12:49:02 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Paul, Thanks for the prompt reply. I did play with the index-format specification. I do not think that is my problem however. It was blank to begin with. Thanks David Kafrissen On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Paul Mitchell wrote: > On 12 Aug 1996, David Kafrissen wrote: > > > Some of the messages in my sent-mail folder when viewed show my name and > > not who they were sent to. Some messages when viewed show who they were > > sent to (which is the prefered behavior). I have looked at the messages in > > the Unix tool less and I can not see the difference between the two sets > > of messages. > > > > Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? This is very annoying! > > > > Solved the problem, finally. Check out the config entry: > > index-format > > Mine had an entry which included the From: field (possibly to cure the > situation where you look at a letter you posted to a newsgroup and it has > replaced your name with To: field entry). > > Removing the entry (going with the default) solved the problem. > > Paul > > ============================================================================== > Paul Mitchell email: paulm@thing.oit.unc.edu > Office of Information Technology phone: (919) 962-5259 > University of North Carolina > ============================================================================== > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 02:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00257; Sat, 17 Aug 96 02:07:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22195; Sat, 17 Aug 96 02:03:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22189; Sat, 17 Aug 96 02:03:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urhHO-00038BC; Sat, 17 Aug 96 02:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gammera Subject: Changing "From:" field Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 00:32:31 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can anyone tell me how to change the address in the From: field from me@my.service.provider to me@something.else? Please respond to me personally if possible. Thanks. ------------------------------- G A M M E R A Avenging Space Turtle on Acid ------------------------------- "It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." -- from the movie "Repo Man" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 02:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01148; Sat, 17 Aug 96 02:43:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05581; Sat, 17 Aug 96 02:38:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05575; Sat, 17 Aug 96 02:38:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urhom-00038BC; Sat, 17 Aug 96 02:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matt Chatterley Subject: Re: A question about email address Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 17:33:45 +0000 Message-Id: References: <4u87eh$247@ts35-6.homenet.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4u87eh$247@ts35-6.homenet.ohio-state.edu> On 6 Aug 1996, Rob Funk wrote: > In article , > Qingchun Guo wrote: > >My question: Is there a way to make a different address appear here > >instead of my real address "guo@bull.gsfc.nasa.gov"? > [...] > >If you write to me, please use my formal address > >(Qingchun.Guo@gsfc.nasa.gov). Please do not use my real address that > >appears in the header of this article. > > Sounds like a job for the "Reply-to:" header. That, or compile your own pine binary (if you are using linux, or a UNIX flavor on your home machine and are in a position to do this), and enable ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM, then edit the from line (in config) to your real address. This is what I've done, after using reply-to for a while (ti works, but i had big problems with mail lists that confirm you're a member before allowing your post through). > -- > =========== R o b F u n k ===========|===========> funk+@osu.edu <=========== > Guildenstern: "So there you are." |rfunk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu > Rosencrantz: "Stark raving sane." |rfunk@freenet.columbus.oh.us > (Tom Stoppard, Ros. & Guil. Are Dead)|http://er4www.eng.ohio-state.edu/~funkr > > Regards, -Matt Chatterley http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html "Do not meddle in the affairs of Wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger." --J.R.R Tolkien From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 03:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01264; Sat, 17 Aug 96 03:03:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22725; Sat, 17 Aug 96 02:58:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22719; Sat, 17 Aug 96 02:58:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uri7f-00038BC; Sat, 17 Aug 96 02:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Col.Brewster" Subject: Pine questions Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 10:47:15 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have two questions regarding pine. Is there a way to make pine automatically uudecode or unzip a text file received through email? I'm using pine through a unix shell account and I can decode or unzip manually from the unix prompt but I find that time consuming. Next, is there a way to make pine automatically go through a message I'm composing and "justify" the entire thing. It takes a long time going through a document and doing every paragraph manually. Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 04:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01868; Sat, 17 Aug 96 04:43:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06994; Sat, 17 Aug 96 04:38:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06988; Sat, 17 Aug 96 04:38:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urjeh-00038BC; Sat, 17 Aug 96 04:35 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Questions Need ANSWER WILL PAY $$ for ANswer Date: 16 Aug 1996 13:14:03 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3213CDD0.408F@ma.ultranet.com> My advice is to hire a writer/editor and a system administrator. Expect to pay each of these at least $40K/year. -Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 05:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02178; Sat, 17 Aug 96 05:43:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24629; Sat, 17 Aug 96 05:39:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24619; Sat, 17 Aug 96 05:39:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urkbm-00038BC; Sat, 17 Aug 96 05:36 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dick Smith Subject: forwarding mail Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 12:54:31 -0700 Message-Id: <32122EF7.266F@netzone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does Pine offer the option of having mail forwarded to another e-mail address? -- Dick Smith Mesa AZ - but it's a dry heat Win95 NN 3.0b7-32 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 06:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02320; Sat, 17 Aug 96 06:12:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07909; Sat, 17 Aug 96 06:09:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07897; Sat, 17 Aug 96 06:09:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0url3E-00038BC; Sat, 17 Aug 96 06:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shan@uclink.berkeley.edu (shan) Subject: help: pine with ispell Date: 14 Aug 1996 20:14:18 GMT Message-Id: <4utc2q$ic2@agate.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Has anyone got ispell to work with pine? I am using pine 3.93. Thanks, Shan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 11:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04043; Sat, 17 Aug 96 11:10:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10980; Sat, 17 Aug 96 11:02:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10974; Sat, 17 Aug 96 11:02:45 -0700 Received: from interl.net (root@pm2-adr28.interl.net [205.244.161.28]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA12277 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 13:02:06 -0500 Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 13:02:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Englander X-Sender: root@interl.net To: pine-info Subject: Overriding X-Sender? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I've already compiled Pine to override From: when I'm logged in as root, but I was wondering if I can also override X-Sender:. Not that it's really a functional problem, but my X-Sender: ... shows up as root@interl, but my ISP's head of technical support is the 'real' root@interl.net (which is why I needed to recompile Pine). I've tried adding X-Sender to custom headers right after my custom "From: Jason Englander ", but it's not working that way. Hopefully I can get it to be "X-Sender: jasoneng@interl" somehow... Thanks, Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMhYJMyGB07hAGnFhAQHusgQA1YHXP0uHS1iEbnCe7WW0x62mlZ210pjf EQ6/Qvvd+Lw7scmcORT9iu0iow2eLjsLBRQvHtRXeAHh/d8BNSzFbogeD+zGHFyu 2VEo5Ih50EjS3B+n2i1KzIY6snAZ295D3xPhKTonSU7wpbM1/xPPMnhsaw/BNKXW eygE2MDOYyA= =Pqct -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jason Englander -=- Burlington, IA - USA E-mail: jasoneng@interl.net, necrojason@geocities.com WWW: http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ PGP-Key: send mail with subject: "get-pgp-key" =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 12:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04900; Sat, 17 Aug 96 12:13:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11649; Sat, 17 Aug 96 12:07:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from baldr.metro.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11643; Sat, 17 Aug 96 12:07:12 -0700 Received: from ig150.innovation.com by baldr.metro.net (NTMail 3.02.07) with ESMTP id za078077 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 12:09:37 -0700 Message-Id: <31E3FEC2.13D4@metro.net> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:04:35 -0700 From: Robert Bidleman Reply-To: robbee@metro.net Organization: HERBAL HALL X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5a (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: POP3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have attempted to use the following line both as a value for inbox AND incoming folder archive: POP3 MAIL (pop3host.metro.net/pop3) to no avail...should I write in another value for the "pop3host"? I read this line from a PINE help post. Please help... Rob - robbee@metro.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 16:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06872; Sat, 17 Aug 96 16:59:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02239; Sat, 17 Aug 96 16:55:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02233; Sat, 17 Aug 96 16:55:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urvAG-00038BC; Sat, 17 Aug 96 16:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: piping HTML to lynx Date: 17 Aug 1996 18:17:24 -0400 Message-Id: I'd like to be able to pipe an HTML doc to lynx (e.g., a MIME attachement that I receive in pine). Can someone tell me the best way to do it? Right now I'm saving the doc as tmp.html and then doing `lynx tmp.html' but it would be much nicer if I could just do something like `|lynx $stdin' Thanks, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 18:44:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07569; Sat, 17 Aug 96 18:44:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15791; Sat, 17 Aug 96 18:40:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15785; Sat, 17 Aug 96 18:40:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urwoW-00038BC; Sat, 17 Aug 96 18:38 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: elynk@Capital.Net (Edgar Lynk) Subject: Stupid PICO question Date: 6 Aug 1996 04:53:35 GMT Message-Id: <4u6j4f$gjs@Usenet.Logical.NET> When I use PICO (v2.8) from the shell, the ^O command gives me the option to change the filename to which the buffer will be written. When I post an article to Usenet using PICO in Tin, it won't let me write to any file other than ~/.article (I want to save a copy of the article). How come, and how can I make it write to a different file? Thanks, Ed. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 20:44:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08314; Sat, 17 Aug 96 20:44:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04719; Sat, 17 Aug 96 20:40:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04713; Sat, 17 Aug 96 20:40:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uryhx-00038BC; Sat, 17 Aug 96 20:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joel F Kislan Subject: Win NT dos window Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 04:06:36 GMT Does anybody know how to get PINE to run as a dos window? I am trying to set up a mail server where people can telnet in and check mail, but on a Windows NT 3.51 server. If not does anybody know of another full-featured text mail/POP client for NT? Thanks Joel Kislan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 21:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08602; Sat, 17 Aug 96 21:47:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17821; Sat, 17 Aug 96 21:41:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17815; Sat, 17 Aug 96 21:41:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0urzb3-00038BC; Sat, 17 Aug 96 21:36 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: R Subject: Re: distribution lists Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 01:06:19 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4uh1ri$la4@samba.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Or maybe you can send a mail to yourself, and Bcc to everyone. -- Ray Zhang ~{UESjLo~} ray@eris.umb.edu http://www.cnd.org/HYPLAN/ray/ On 10 Aug 1996, Les Wallis wrote: > Put the alias in the Lcc field which you see by selecting Control R for > rich header. Then only the group alias not all the addresses will appear > in the To field of your message, as sent and as received. > > On 10 Aug 1996, Leslie D. Waters wrote: > > > Is there a way to have Pine not expand a distribution list? I have an > > alias that is a distribution list of email addresses. I would like to > > not have it be expanded, and included in everyone's message. I would > > like to protect the privacy of each member of the list, to prevent some > > member getting the addresses of other members of the list. > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Aug 1996 00:57:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09890; Sun, 18 Aug 96 00:57:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07987; Sun, 18 Aug 96 00:41:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07981; Sun, 18 Aug 96 00:41:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0us2T2-00038BC; Sun, 18 Aug 96 00:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Couper Subject: How I cancelled my newsgroup article using pine (mostly) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 22:49:52 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I used pine 3.95, UNIX version. Having searched via Dejanews and MetaCrawler (deep search) with keywords 'pine news cancel' and finding little information, I reread the paragraph in the cancel FAQ that reveals the basics: << F. How are they issued? Cancel messages are sent out as a standard Usenet post, except they contain a "Control: cancel " header. If a system that accepts cancels receives the message, the post with the specified message ID is deleted from that system.>> After reviewing a number of cancel messages in newsgroup 'control', I determined that 2 headers are necessary in the cancel post: Control: cancel Subject: cmsg cancel (the <> brackets are necessary) I posted a test message to newsgroup misc.test, looked at the headers of my test-post, and copied its to my clipboard buffer. Then, for the cancel-post, I started another post to misc.test, and postponed it. I suspended pine and edited the file 'postponed' in my mail directory to insert the two headers, pasting in from my test-post. I resumed pine and 'Compose', 'Continue', 'Yes' with the cancel-post, which now contained the cancel headers. After posting, I verified that my test-post had disappeared from misc.test, and that my cancel-post was in the control newsgroup. One could use 'Setup', 'Configure', 'customized-hdrs' 'A'dd to insert the header Control: . But then you have to remove the Control: customized-hdr after posting the cancel-post. Now that I've done it, it's obvious how I can cancel one of my articles in a newsgroup using pine. pine has such long message-IDs that I'd hesitate to type them into the headers, but with a clipboard to copy to & paste from, it's easy. It's easier still to use a newsreader with a 'cancel' key if you have access to one. If I've overlooked the obvious, please post easier ways to cancel a news article using pine. See RFC1036 (usenet), RFC822 (mail), and Cancel FAQ for background information on headers and cancel messages. Barry Couper duck@berkshire.net Barry Couper, Montague, MA USA ^^^^--for Duck Soup in honor of all Marxists of the Groucho persuasion From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Aug 1996 04:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11104; Sun, 18 Aug 96 04:06:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22545; Sun, 18 Aug 96 04:01:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22539; Sun, 18 Aug 96 04:01:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0us5YY-00038BC; Sun, 18 Aug 96 03:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) Subject: Re: piping HTML to lynx Date: 17 Aug 1996 21:48:04 -0700 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: Nancy McGough's message of 17 Aug 1996 18:17:24 -0400 Nancy McGough writes: > I'd like to be able to pipe an HTML doc to lynx (e.g., a MIME > attachement that I receive in pine). It's been my understanding that this is not possible in lynx and is one of (a variety of) reasons why lynx, for instance, is not able to integrate with Emacs (such as w3, Netscape, others, do). I look forward to being corrected about this. Regards, Bob -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Aug 1996 06:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12032; Sun, 18 Aug 96 06:35:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11839; Sun, 18 Aug 96 06:32:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11833; Sun, 18 Aug 96 06:31:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0us7wG-00038BC; Sun, 18 Aug 96 06:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jrustenb@freenet.npiec.on.ca (Joyce Rustenburg) Subject: Re: Save newgroups list Date: 17 Aug 1996 02:57:34 GMT Message-Id: <4v3ceu$mek@brain.npiec.on.ca> References: Hans Schleichert (sipsc01@commlink.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de) wrote: : Is there a way to save the newsgroups list to a local file? I'd like to : browse it offline in a text processor. : - Hans If your modem software has a backscroll feature, mark the text and save, giving it a name, to a file on your hard drive. Windows terminal or Telemate, for example do this. You may have to increase the default size of the backscroll buffer or go in and out a few times to get it all. -- | Joyce Rustenburg | jrustenb@freenet.npiec.on.ca From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Aug 1996 09:58:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13491; Sun, 18 Aug 96 09:58:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26322; Sun, 18 Aug 96 09:53:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26316; Sun, 18 Aug 96 09:53:35 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.lmco.com ([166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA04911; Sun, 18 Aug 1996 12:53:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.lmco.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA20614; Sun, 18 Aug 1996 12:53:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (4.1/LMCO SunOS Server Nondomain-1.1) id AA04853; Sun, 18 Aug 96 12:52:05 EDT Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 12:52:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman X-Sender: sugarman@mmpcs1 To: "Col.Brewster" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine questions In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Col.Brewster wrote: > I have two questions regarding pine. Is there a way to make pine > automatically uudecode or unzip a text file received through email? I'm > using pine through a unix shell account and I can decode or unzip manually > from the unix prompt but I find that time consuming. > If the message contains one uuencoded attachment, enable the pipe command (in Setup/Config, if not already enabled), and pipe "|" to uudecode or munpack. Don't know about unzip, since you would first have to munpack or uudecode, then unzip. Perhaps you could write a script called munzip to munpack then unzip: munpack | unzip and pipe to munzip. (I'll leave it to you to try. :) Besides, there's probably an easier way.) > Next, is there a way to make pine automatically go through a message I'm > composing and "justify" the entire thing. It takes a long time going > through a document and doing every paragraph manually. > I'll leave this for someone else. Regards, Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Aug 1996 14:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15607; Sun, 18 Aug 96 14:36:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29724; Sun, 18 Aug 96 14:32:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29718; Sun, 18 Aug 96 14:32:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usFRq-00038BC; Sun, 18 Aug 96 14:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jshin@pantheon.yale.edu (Jungshik Shin) Subject: Re: piping HTML to lynx Date: 18 Aug 1996 16:21:40 -0400 Message-Id: <4v7u0k$f8l@net161-61.student.yale.edu> References: Nancy McGough wrote: : Does anyone know if there are plans for a future version of lynx : to understand standard in (.e.g. `cat foo.html | lynx')? What If Lynx as it is can't do that, you can always write a script to do it for you. That's the way Unix works, isn't it? Enclosed is a simple minded script for that. Depending on your version of lynx, you may have to omit '-nolist' option. % cat lynxfilter #!/bin/sh trap 'rm -f /tmp/$$.*; exit 1' 1 2 15 IN=/tmp/$$.stdin.html cat > $IN lynx -dump -nolist $IN /bin/rm $IN Jungshik Shin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Aug 1996 17:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07230; Sun, 18 Aug 96 17:16:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18900; Sun, 18 Aug 96 17:12:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18894; Sun, 18 Aug 96 17:12:49 -0700 Received: (from brennan@localhost) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA28280 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sun, 18 Aug 1996 20:12:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 96 20:12:48 EDT From: Joe Brennan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How I cancelled my newsgroup article using pine (mostly) In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 17 Aug 1996 22:49:52 -0400 Message-Id: > pine news cancel I wish Pine's Delete command deleted (cancelled) an article, and reading an article marked it read. The Pine developers have already explained that the single state of news articles (namely read or not) caused them trouble, when forcing mail and news into the same system. I'd suggest there are other ways out than what was chosen: for example, display only unread news articles when entering a newsgroup, and have a command to toggle showing read articles also (and let the same toggle work for mail, but default to showing all as it does now). The thing is, cancelling one's own articles is an activity to be recommended and made simple; it's a Good Thing for the net. At least on UNIX Pine, where we have authenticated the user by login, it should be safe to allow cancelling. Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York brennan@columbia.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Aug 1996 18:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17114; Sun, 18 Aug 96 18:45:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19820; Sun, 18 Aug 96 18:43:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19814; Sun, 18 Aug 96 18:43:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usJL5-00038BC; Sun, 18 Aug 96 18:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: Re: multiple, mutually exclusive To: recipients Date: 18 Aug 1996 15:12:03 -0700 Message-Id: <4v84fj$ok@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <4v7hg1$4mq@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Paul O Bartlett wrote: : Put the list of recipients in the Bcc: field. You need to be _sure_ : to put *something* in the To: field. A cheap and easy way which should : work regardless of how current your version of Pine is, is to put : yourself (i.e., your own email address) in the To: field. If you don't That won't do what I want. That will send a copy of the mail to each recipient in the Bcc: field, however, each piece of mail will have the same To: field. I would like the To: field to contain the name of each recipient who receives the mail, and only his name, so that it looks as if I sent the mail to him alone. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Aug 1996 19:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17335; Sun, 18 Aug 96 19:24:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02932; Sun, 18 Aug 96 19:23:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02926; Sun, 18 Aug 96 19:23:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usJzu-00038TC; Sun, 18 Aug 96 19:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lynda Milne Subject: 3.95: Still no message editing? Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 09:53:23 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Wah! I eagerly read through (almost) every word of the 3.95 release notes, and while I'm very happy with the large number of helpful updates, the one I've wanted so much for so long still isn't there! In UNIX mail and mailx, it is possible to engage an editor to edit RECEIVED messages. This is very helpful for cutting down on the volume of saved messages. Unwanted lines and lines full of headers can be quickly deleted, along with abundant, redundant inclusions of quoted messages. You read, you edit, you save. Bingo: megabytes of unwanted fat removed. Is this enhancement ever coming to the otherwise-now-perfect-PINE? _____________________________________________________________________ Lynda Milne, Director lmilne@umich.edu Science Learning Center 313-763-9399 1720 Chemistry Building 1055 fax 313-747-4865 _____________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Aug 1996 23:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19558; Sun, 18 Aug 96 23:33:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23119; Sun, 18 Aug 96 23:29:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23113; Sun, 18 Aug 96 23:28:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usNnx-00038BC; Sun, 18 Aug 96 23:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lawrence Sylvia Subject: Questions Need ANSWER WILL PAY $$ for ANswer Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 18:24:32 -0700 Message-Id: <3213CDD0.408F@ma.ultranet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am looking to start a business taht gives, and manges EMAIL address to business in Area. I would give each an own email address added after my domain name. In CA a business charges each compnay $5.00 per month and one time setiup fee. You fax the business there Email... I then checked with my provider they want $5,00 per month for EACH new Mail box.. this is way too much... It would mean I would charge $10 per month and not be an intiseing to compnaies. Another program needed.. I need to have any email with customers address automatically faxed to there machine. In begining is okay to send it manually, but as business grows need it automated.. anyone have any ideas. Looking for cheap costs effect soulitions... provider reccomended gettting my own mail sorter, and it would sory mail out? Anyone know about this tyep of program?? Is it better to start my own server, and lease a line from provider? Costs and equipmetn needed to set upo own server.. and jsut use the providers line?? I am willing to pay $$ for the right soulutions that work for us.. Need answers Yesterday for have over 1000 companies taht are serious and in need of this service. They watn WW Webb page linkage, and this would do it for them.. Also other compnaies with email address don't log in and check there mail regualry, and this would allow them to receeive there mail thru fax, and reply with terhe own computer.. EMAIL a reply and answer soon... THANK LMS From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 01:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20201; Mon, 19 Aug 96 01:04:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24098; Mon, 19 Aug 96 01:00:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24092; Mon, 19 Aug 96 01:00:03 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 19 Aug 1996 08:57:48 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id IAA24410; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 08:59:54 +0100 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 08:59:54 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Dick Smith Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: forwarding mail In-Reply-To: <32122EF7.266F@netzone.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Your question is slightly ambiguous. If you mean "Having received a message, can I forward a copy on to someone else?" then the answer is "Yes, use the 'F' (Forward) command". However... If you mean "Can Pine automatically redirect arriving mail to some other e-mail address instead?" then the answer is "No, this is not a function of Pine or any other mail *reader*. Instead you have to persuade the mail *delivery* software used by your computer system to redirect the mail as it arrives. This is _probably_ done by creating a file called '.forward' in your home directory containing the destination e-mail address. Check with your local Help Desk for information." Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, Dick Smith wrote: > Does Pine offer the option of having mail forwarded to another e-mail > address? > -- > Dick Smith > Mesa AZ - but it's a dry heat > Win95 NN 3.0b7-32 > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 01:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20140; Mon, 19 Aug 96 01:07:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24138; Mon, 19 Aug 96 01:02:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24132; Mon, 19 Aug 96 01:02:57 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 19 Aug 1996 09:00:14 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA24681; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 09:02:06 +0100 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 09:02:06 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: shan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help: pine with ispell In-Reply-To: <4utc2q$ic2@agate.berkeley.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes. Go to the Setup Configuration screen and set the "speller" variable to your ispell command. (You may need to include the full path to the program if it is not on your standrad path.) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 14 Aug 1996, shan wrote: > Has anyone got ispell to work with pine? > > I am using pine 3.93. > > Thanks, > Shan > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 01:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19886; Mon, 19 Aug 96 01:48:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07433; Mon, 19 Aug 96 01:44:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07427; Mon, 19 Aug 96 01:44:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usPvm-00038BC; Mon, 19 Aug 96 01:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccam@lux.latrobe.edu.au (Andrew Moar) Subject: Re: Virus Warning -Forwarded -Forwarded (fwd) Date: 15 Aug 1996 23:37:29 GMT Message-Id: <4v0cbp$3ni@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article , lbw@rvib2.rvib.org.au (Les Wallis) writes: > Not that old one again! It is a HOAX > And if you don't believe us, have a look at : http://straylight.cso.niu.edu/nats/goodtime.htm From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 02:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20533; Mon, 19 Aug 96 02:18:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24937; Mon, 19 Aug 96 02:14:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24931; Mon, 19 Aug 96 02:14:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usQNV-00038TC; Mon, 19 Aug 96 02:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stephen Krauth Subject: Solution - SGI Cut & Paste funkiness Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 16:23:22 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Under Irix (and maybe other OS') cutting and pasting with the mouse causes pine to go justify crazy, and you end up with one big brick of text. This is because newlines are pasted as ^J characters, which Pine uses as the Justify command. So, I've made a few changes here and there to a copy of the source for 3.95, changing the ^J for Justify to ^\, which seems like just about the only control character not used for something or other. Also, the ^J character now inserts a new line, so pasting works the way it should. The help text in Pine and Pico is also changed throughout to indicate the changed key (I didn't look into changing the man pages or anything in doc/ though). Would anybody be interested in this version of the source? The only problem is that I seem to be inept at making a patch file using diff. If someone can give me a clue I'll post the patch to this group - it should be pretty tiny. Email will get to me fastest. :) Steve K. 818.733.6772 DreamWorks Feature Animation From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 02:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20926; Mon, 19 Aug 96 02:48:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25204; Mon, 19 Aug 96 02:38:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25198; Mon, 19 Aug 96 02:38:34 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 19 Aug 96 17:43:17 +0800 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 17:35:51 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Stephen Krauth Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Solution - SGI Cut & Paste funkiness In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Stephen Krauth wrote: > Under Irix (and maybe other OS') cutting and pasting with the mouse causes > pine to go justify crazy, and you end up with one big brick of text. This > is because newlines are pasted as ^J characters, which Pine uses as the > Justify command. FYIW, this problem does not exist with Solaris and Openwindows. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 07:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22674; Mon, 19 Aug 96 07:18:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28448; Mon, 19 Aug 96 07:14:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from frank.mtsu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28442; Mon, 19 Aug 96 07:14:02 -0700 Received: by frank.mtsu.edu (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA197804122; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 09:15:22 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 09:15:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Myron Wayne Jones To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII subscribe - Myron Jones ---------------------------------------------------------------------- E-mail: chem000c@frank.mtsu.edu Homepage: http://www.mtsu.edu/~chem000c Snail Mail: MTSU Box D750, Murfreesboro, TN 37132 USA ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 08:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24735; Mon, 19 Aug 96 08:42:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13058; Mon, 19 Aug 96 08:40:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from granite.sover.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13046; Mon, 19 Aug 96 08:40:22 -0700 Received: (from rc@localhost) by granite.sover.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) id LAA17710; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 11:40:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 11:40:21 -0400 (EDT) From: rc@sover.net To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine is very fast Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine is very fast.Thank you. I love pine. From: rc@sover.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 09:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26412; Mon, 19 Aug 96 09:34:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14793; Mon, 19 Aug 96 09:31:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14787; Mon, 19 Aug 96 09:31:50 -0700 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA23278 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 18:31:10 +0200 Received: from itsrm1.mow.sni.de (itsrm1 [149.202.148.210]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA27261 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 20:31:29 +0400 (MDT) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 20:31:28 +0400 (MOW) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsrm1.mow.sni.de Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Pine mailing list Subject: Question about News collection. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! Is it possible to have more than one news group hierarchy in the same newsgroup collection? What I mean, it would be nice to have one collection name "PGP" with news groups comp.security.pgp.* and alt.security.pgp in it. I tried something like: PGP "*{news.host}comp.security.pgp.[] *{news.host}alt.security.pgp" with and without comma, but without any success - Pine thinks, I have no groups in such collection. Any idea? BTW all groups are supposed to be on the same server. thanks in advance ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 11:02:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27408; Mon, 19 Aug 96 11:02:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17288; Mon, 19 Aug 96 11:00:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17282; Mon, 19 Aug 96 11:00:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usYZg-00038TC; Mon, 19 Aug 96 10:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gmalling@dormouse.syr.edu Subject: Re: piping HTML to lynx Date: 19 Aug 1996 16:37:57 GMT Message-Id: <4va595$gq0@newstand.syr.edu> References: Nancy McGough wrote in article : > >I'd like to be able to pipe an HTML doc to lynx (e.g., a MIME >attachement that I receive in pine). Can someone tell me the >best way to do it? Right now I'm saving the doc as tmp.html >and then doing `lynx tmp.html' but it would be much nicer if >I could just do something like `|lynx $stdin' Assuming that the attachment comes as MIME type text/html the following line in my .mailcap causes pine to "do the right thing." text/html; lynx -force_html %s; \ test=test -z "$DISPLAY" -a -z "$LYNX_VERSION"; needsterminal The test clause says to use lynx if the DISPLAY variable is not defined and lynx is not already running. An earlier line in .mailcap uses netscape if the DISPLAY variable is define. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 11:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29549; Mon, 19 Aug 96 11:37:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06044; Mon, 19 Aug 96 11:35:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06038; Mon, 19 Aug 96 11:35:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usZ6J-00038BC; Mon, 19 Aug 96 11:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: Help - Pine for DOS over PPP Date: 19 Aug 1996 16:36:25 GMT Message-Id: <4va569$p1a@dub-news-svc-6.compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain Could someone please tell me how to get PC Pine working on PPP, especially the locations for any packet drivers etc. needed. I've been trying to set it up for several days without success. TIA. Lee Hauser lhauser@sprynet.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 13:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31239; Mon, 19 Aug 96 13:02:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21347; Mon, 19 Aug 96 13:00:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21341; Mon, 19 Aug 96 13:00:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usaUP-00038BC; Mon, 19 Aug 96 12:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@somerville.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: two lines which repeat Date: 19 Aug 1996 18:20:16 GMT Message-Id: References: <4v7v2j$o1n@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> sfvh@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (thomas winslett): > When I scroll through a message and then capture it to save in a word > processing prgram, the two lines repeat. > This is nice when I am reading the message (although I don't need it or > really want it) but it is very irritating when I am saving the message. > Is there a better way to save message to word processing programs like > Word or ClarisWorks that will not have this problem or can I set an option > to not repeat the two lines when I scroll down to the next page. Hmm, do you save a mail by capturing a copy of your screen? In that case you probably miss the command "save" - and thus you deserve to get copies of those repeated lines. ;-) Seriously - RTFM! okok I'll tell you how: Press '?' to see the help page. On the right you see this menu: Operations on the Current Message --------------------------------- V View Y Print R Reply to message F Forward D Mark for deletion U Undelete (remove deletion mark) T Take Address into Address Book S Save into an email folder <-------------- there it is! E Export as a plain text file B Bounce * Flag So just use the command 'S' to save your mail. Simple, no? :-) Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 13:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32081; Mon, 19 Aug 96 13:27:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09953; Mon, 19 Aug 96 13:25:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09947; Mon, 19 Aug 96 13:25:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usapq-00038BC; Mon, 19 Aug 96 13:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Subject: Unix PINE 3.95: "From" field for ng posts Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 16:20:13 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, all-- As you can see by this post, "to: comp.mail.pine" is listed where my name should be. Any suggestions on which switch to turn on/off? I've played with the setup/config, restored the defaults (I think) by deleting .pinerc, and still I'm s.o.l. Is this a 3.95 bug or an incompatibility with my .newsrc, or what? All email assistance greatly appreciated. Eric -- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Eric Touchberry ** I had nothing to offer anybody ** but my own confusion. touch@umich.edu ** --Kerouac :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 13:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32176; Mon, 19 Aug 96 13:46:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10371; Mon, 19 Aug 96 13:37:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [192.139.196.3] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10365; Mon, 19 Aug 96 13:37:34 -0700 Received: from grizzly by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA04768; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 13:36:11 -0700 Message-Id: <9608192036.AA04768@asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca> From: brian@asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca Date: Mon, 19 Aug 96 13:34:45 -0700 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: two lines which repeat In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.1 (Unregistered) Hi, On 08/19/96 at 06:20 PM, you said: >sfvh@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (thomas winslett): >> When I scroll through a message and then capture it to save in a word >> processing prgram, the two lines repeat. >> This is nice when I am reading the message (although I don't need it or >> really want it) but it is very irritating when I am saving the message. >> Is there a better way to save message to word processing programs like >> Word or ClarisWorks that will not have this problem or can I set an option >> to not repeat the two lines when I scroll down to the next page. >okok I'll tell you how: >Press '?' to see the help page. >On the right you see this menu: >Operations on the Current Message >--------------------------------- >V View Y Print >R Reply to message F Forward >D Mark for deletion >U Undelete (remove deletion mark) >T Take Address into Address Book >S Save into an email folder <-------------- there it is! E Export >as a plain text file >B Bounce * Flag >So just use the command 'S' to save your mail. >Simple, no? :-) No..... You want to EXPORT it if anything, not save it. It ends up as a mail message again otherwise. B. -- "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe...Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion...I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tan Hauser Gate...all these moments will be lost..like tears in the rain." - Roy Batty, in Bladerunner Brian P. Hampson ASL Analytical Service Laboratories Ltd System Administrator, Vancouver, BC (604)253-4188 ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/----------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 16:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03266; Mon, 19 Aug 96 16:35:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27182; Mon, 19 Aug 96 16:31:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27176; Mon, 19 Aug 96 16:31:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usdmK-00038BC; Mon, 19 Aug 96 16:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ii@best.com (Infinite Ink) Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: 19 Aug 1996 10:57:29 -0400 Message-Id: <4v9vcq$ruj@shellx.best.com> cancel in newsgroup comp.mail.pine This article was cancelled from within NN version 6.5.0 #6 (NOV) -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 16:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19412; Mon, 19 Aug 96 16:49:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15423; Mon, 19 Aug 96 16:46:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15417; Mon, 19 Aug 96 16:46:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usdyn-00038BC; Mon, 19 Aug 96 16:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: abe0084@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (Adam Vardy) Subject: Can I post/reply? Date: 19 Aug 1996 23:38:28 GMT Message-Id: <4vattl$2v7@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Can I post a followup message to usenet and also reply to the poster by email at the same time? - Adam From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 17:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04496; Mon, 19 Aug 96 17:49:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28974; Mon, 19 Aug 96 17:45:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun1srvr.vszbr.cz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28966; Mon, 19 Aug 96 17:45:16 -0700 Received: from ts1-1.ics.muni.cz by sun1srvr.vszbr.cz id AA18402; Tue, 20 Aug 96 02:43:37 +0200 Received: by ts1-1.ics.muni.cz with Microsoft Mail id <01BB8E41.9A643EE0@ts1-1.ics.muni.cz>; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 02:45:09 +0200 Message-Id: <01BB8E41.9A643EE0@ts1-1.ics.muni.cz> From: Petr Zavadil To: "'pine-info@cac.washington.edu'" Subject: NNTP server? Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 02:44:32 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, i have a question about NNTP server in PINE news-folder named Heaps-O-News. If you know server name, mail me, please. Thanks zdena@vszbr.cz From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 18:57:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05310; Mon, 19 Aug 96 18:57:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00214; Mon, 19 Aug 96 18:56:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00208; Mon, 19 Aug 96 18:56:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usg25-00038BC; Mon, 19 Aug 96 18:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jpfrain@christa.unh.edu (Jonathan P Frain) Subject: Question about Blind Carbon Copy Date: 14 Aug 1996 22:05:13 GMT Message-Id: <4utiip$rj@mozz.unh.edu> Hi, I just put together a mailing list. Is there a way to make it so that the recipient of the message doesn't receive the names of all the other names on the list. I was told Blind Carbon Copy is a way to do this but i don't know if it exists on pine. Please respond by email. Thanks, Jon Frain From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 19:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04187; Mon, 19 Aug 96 19:12:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18123; Mon, 19 Aug 96 19:09:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasmda.vsnl.net.in by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18113; Mon, 19 Aug 96 19:09:43 -0700 Received: from localhost by giasmda.vsnl.net.in (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA19755; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 07:40:05 +0530 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 07:40:05 +0530 (IST) From: Sowmya Sekar X-Sender: sowmyas@giasmda To: Local Support Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I can't send mail to many boxes in Australia, US etc.as below 1) vegc03a@prodigy.com 2) vasujay@melbpc.org.au 3) rajagor@syvax.sy.dupont.com Pl. try to resolve this problem. my main idea of getting internet connection is to mail these people regularly. THanks. SowmyaS From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 19:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05504; Mon, 19 Aug 96 19:29:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00607; Mon, 19 Aug 96 19:27:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00601; Mon, 19 Aug 96 19:27:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usgT2-00038BC; Mon, 19 Aug 96 19:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: Pine questions Date: 19 Aug 1996 19:34:37 -0500 Message-Id: <4vb16t$2dd@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article , Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Col.Brewster wrote: > > > I have two questions regarding pine. Is there a way to make pine > > automatically uudecode or unzip a text file received through email? > [...] > > > > Next, is there a way to make pine automatically go through a message I'm > > composing and "justify" the entire thing. It takes a long time going > > through a document and doing every paragraph manually. > > Unfortunately, the answer to both your questions is, No. I'm pretty sure that one could use the `display-filters' option to do this. The filter used to display the message would need to be fairly smart, but otherwise there's no reason why it shouldn't work. > If you're using Pine under Un*x, you might be able to set up > procmail to do any uudecoding or unzipping for you automatically (if > you can reliably identify the file types in incoming mail). From your > second question, I presume you are using Pine's built-in composer. You > have the option of specifying a much more powerful editor if you wish > (vi, emacs, whatever horror turns you on), and that alternate editor > may have such a justification capability. Or at least the ability to 1) select a region of the input buffer. 2) run an external command on the selected region. pico can do #1 but can't do #2, from what I can tell. Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 20:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05441; Mon, 19 Aug 96 20:08:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01131; Mon, 19 Aug 96 20:06:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01117; Mon, 19 Aug 96 20:06:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ush52-00038BC; Mon, 19 Aug 96 20:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Svante Pettersson Subject: Re: Virus Warning -Forwarded -Forwarded (fwd) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 17:04:14 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 14 Aug 1996, Chip Old wrote: > Hoax alert! Hoax alert! > > This is the infamous "Good Times Virus" hoax that has been resurfacing > about every six months for the past two or three years. The Good Times > virus does not exist, nor has the FCC ever issued a warning about it, nor > can you transmit a virus in the manner described. Don't fear anymore. I just found this: ---Fwd--- This message is the "Good Times" Antigen message. If you have recieved this message, your system has been completely, permanently disinfected from the "Good Times" virus. <&hgHH*&67%$9Yghhbbo^&7t54V5^54hO*Nnt56%$G&ggR4e4^ ^&IG67hbCE$@#q1edUYgLKJ()M0l,;io(*HN^&$%FV86565HH^ ^nhgggfc4ghh*&hhGFff#$wfhjNJM(I*989KMNnbFde#33Dfh> You can now ignore any messages having anything to do with "Good Times" -- including threads! -- because you and they have been disinfected as of this mailing! Pass the disinfectant on ONLY to anyone you know to still be "hung up" on this unfortunate Internet virus. A Public Service of the AutoNym Antigen Task Force. ---End Fwd--- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Svante Pettersson | "Anything played wrong twice in a row HTML-Dork, | is the beginning of an arrangement." Netch Technologies AB | http://www.netch.se/ | -Frank Zappa swepett@netch.se | ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 22:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07178; Mon, 19 Aug 96 22:18:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20799; Mon, 19 Aug 96 22:17:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20787; Mon, 19 Aug 96 22:16:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usj73-00038BC; Mon, 19 Aug 96 22:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pete pollock Subject: Problem Transmitting from "Notepad" to PINE Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 16:58:21 +0000 Message-Id: <32189D2D.57D6@engrhp1.ple.af.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Currently I am composing letters on my IBM-PC using "Notepad", then transmitting these over the InterNet to a PINE program. Specifically : I log onto the "shell" of my local InterNet provider, access their PINE program, and transmit the file from my IBM-PC to PINE. The software I use to transmit data is QL2FAXW. I assume their InterNet server is a Unix system. PROBLEM : this scheme is works fine, BUT I am losing the CR/LF (carriage-return line-feed) commands at the end of each line of text. No other characters are lost - except the line feeds at the end of each line. ATTEMPTED SOLUTIONS 1) I tried "Word Wrap" in Notepad on my IBM-PC. Doesn't fix the problem. I also tried deliberately putting in CR/LF commands in Notepad before the 80 character position on every line. Doesn't work either. As far as I can tell, the CR-LF commands ARE present in the Notepad file. 2) I tried using another wordprocessor on my PC (WordPerfect). Same problem as Notepad - the data get transmitted but the CR/LF commands on each line get lost. 3) I tried modifying my data tranmission format. The QL2FAXW software has an option which you can activate "change outgoing CR to CR-LF". I did this. Still didn't fix the problem. 4) I tried control-J (Justify) in PINE. Didn't help either. As far as I can tell, PINE isn't recognizing any CR-LF characters in the text it receives. O.K. gang, I'm stuck. Why is this happening? Please reply to my home e-mail if possible : aussie@ptw.com Thanks, Pete Pollock From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 22:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07211; Mon, 19 Aug 96 22:22:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02872; Mon, 19 Aug 96 22:20:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [204.198.105.117] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02862; Mon, 19 Aug 96 22:20:36 -0700 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 00:14:33 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bryan D. Cowan" To: Pine email Subject: Bug or I just can't fix it? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have downloaded Pine 3.95 on an SCO Unix system. No problems with installation. All users except "root" can run the system. Pine complains that it cannot open /inbox and cannot find .addressbook in the directory (home) for root. I also cannot write new addresses to the .addressbook. Can you help? Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 22:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06393; Mon, 19 Aug 96 22:22:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02857; Mon, 19 Aug 96 22:20:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [204.198.105.117] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02848; Mon, 19 Aug 96 22:20:33 -0700 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 00:14:07 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bryan D. Cowan" To: Pine email Subject: Bug or I just can't fix it? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have downloaded Pine 3.95 on an SCO Unix system. No problems with installation. All users except "root" can run the system. Pine complains that it cannot open /inbox and cannot find .addressbook in the directory (home) for root. I also cannot write new addresses to the .addressbook. Can you help? Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 22:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06537; Mon, 19 Aug 96 22:22:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02847; Mon, 19 Aug 96 22:20:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [204.198.105.117] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02841; Mon, 19 Aug 96 22:20:31 -0700 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 00:13:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bryan D. Cowan" To: Pine email Subject: Bug or I just can't fix it? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have downloaded Pine 3.95 on an SCO Unix system. No problems with installation. All users except "root" can run the system. Pine complains that it cannot open /inbox and cannot find .addressbook in the directory (home) for root. I also cannot write new addresses to the .addressbook. Can you help? Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Aug 1996 22:22:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07220; Mon, 19 Aug 96 22:22:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02866; Mon, 19 Aug 96 22:20:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [204.198.105.117] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02852; Mon, 19 Aug 96 22:20:34 -0700 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 00:14:19 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bryan D. Cowan" To: Pine email Subject: Bug or I just can't fix it? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have downloaded Pine 3.95 on an SCO Unix system. No problems with installation. All users except "root" can run the system. Pine complains that it cannot open /inbox and cannot find .addressbook in the directory (home) for root. I also cannot write new addresses to the .addressbook. Can you help? Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 01:08:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08299; Tue, 20 Aug 96 01:08:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04863; Tue, 20 Aug 96 01:07:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04857; Tue, 20 Aug 96 01:07:01 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 20 Aug 1996 09:04:40 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA03561; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 09:06:38 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 09:06:37 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Jonathan P Frain Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Question about Blind Carbon Copy In-Reply-To: <4utiip$rj@mozz.unh.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 0. Yes, BCC does exist in Pine (and has done for many, many moon). 1. Put cursor on a header line of the message you are composing. 2. Look at menu at bottom of screen and see that ^R (Rich Header) sounds interesting. Type ^R. 3. This expands the header section to reveal all available headers, including Bcc. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 14 Aug 1996, Jonathan P Frain wrote: > > Hi, > > I just put together a mailing list. Is there a way to make it so > that the recipient of the message doesn't receive the names of all the > other names on the list. I was told Blind Carbon Copy is a way to do > this but i don't know if it exists on pine. > Please respond by email. > > Thanks, > Jon Frain > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 01:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29806; Tue, 20 Aug 96 01:28:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05047; Tue, 20 Aug 96 01:24:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05041; Tue, 20 Aug 96 01:24:37 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 20 Aug 1996 09:22:14 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA05831; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 09:24:15 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 09:24:15 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: Adam Vardy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Can I post/reply? In-Reply-To: <4vattl$2v7@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes, you can do this with Pine (I'm assuming you are asking about Pine as this is a Pine information group, even though your question doesn't seem to have been posted with Pine.) ... When you are composing a message (original, reply or forwarding a message) Pine by default shows you the headers it deems "most appropriate" for the message. Thus if you start composing a message whilst viewing a folder in an "ordinary" folder collection you are shown e-mail type headers. However if you were reading a newsgroup in a news-collection you instead get shown news type headers. Whatever you are shown is _only_ the default: all the other headers are still available. To see/use them just put your cursor on any visible header line and give the ^R (Rich Header) command shown in the menu at the bottom of the screen. This expands the header section to show ALL the available header fields -- both e-mail type and news type. For a message to be sent as e-mail the "To:" field should be filled in (and also possiby the Bcc, Cc or Lcc fields). For it to be sent as a News message the "Newsgroups:" header needs filling in. You can quite happily fill in as many of these fields as you wish in order to send the message to both mail and news. Indeed later versions of Pine (3.93 onwards) offer you a choice when replying to a newsgroup whether you want to e-mail the auther of the article you're responding to, sned your reply to News, or do both. Your sinlge keystroke answer to this question will automatically fill in the appropriate headers. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 19 Aug 1996, Adam Vardy wrote: > > Can I post a followup message to usenet and also reply to the poster by > email at the same time? > > - Adam > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 02:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08773; Tue, 20 Aug 96 02:18:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05657; Tue, 20 Aug 96 02:17:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05651; Tue, 20 Aug 96 02:17:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usmt0-00038BC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 02:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: szpegiri@chip.ucdavis.edu (Patrick Giri) Subject: saving to file Date: 20 Aug 1996 02:00:29 GMT Message-Id: <4vb67t$k2s@mark.ucdavis.edu> Question (and pardon if this is already in the faq-just tell me and I'll rtfm): How can I save parts of multiple messages (i.e., FAQ pt 1, 2, 3, etc) and combine them into one text file? I use the pico text editor. Thanks. -- Patrick Giri University of California, Davis pegiri@ucdavis.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 02:30:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08893; Tue, 20 Aug 96 02:30:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23928; Tue, 20 Aug 96 02:27:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23922; Tue, 20 Aug 96 02:27:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usn1K-00038BC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 02:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Schleichert Subject: Re: Question about Blind Carbon Copy Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 11:09:36 +0200 Message-Id: References: <4utiip$rj@mozz.unh.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4utiip$rj@mozz.unh.edu> On 14 Aug 1996, Jonathan P Frain wrote: > I just put together a mailing list. Is there a way to make it so > that the recipient of the message doesn't receive the names of all the > other names on the list. I was told Blind Carbon Copy is a way to do > this but i don't know if it exists on pine. Rather than Bcc:, use Pine's Lcc: feature. There has been a discussion of Lcc: on this list over the past weeks. While composing the message, move the cursor into the header and press Ctrl-R (rich header). This will display both Bcc: and Lcc: lines. Move to Lcc:, and enter the name of the distribution list (you must define this list in Pine's addressbook). This will put the list's name into the To: line, and the recipients into the Lcc: field, but the recipients will only see the To: line and not the Lcc:. You may want to try first, by creating a distribution list that contains only yourself, and maybe one or two friends. - Hans -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Schleichert, Dipl.-Phys. Institut fuer Medizinische Psychologie und Verhaltensneurobiologie (Institute of Medical Psychology and Behavioural Neurobiology) Eberhard-Karls-University Gartenstrasse 29 D-72074 Tuebingen, Germany From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 02:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09188; Tue, 20 Aug 96 02:52:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24151; Tue, 20 Aug 96 02:47:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24145; Tue, 20 Aug 96 02:47:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usnKt-00038BC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 02:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jtr@primenet.com Subject: multiple, mutually exclusive To: recipients Date: 18 Aug 1996 09:48:01 -0700 Message-Id: <4v7hg1$4mq@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> I'd like to be able to send mail to multiple people, with each one receiving the message seemingly addressed to himself alone in the To: header. Is there a way to do this with PINE? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 02:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09212; Tue, 20 Aug 96 02:52:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05911; Tue, 20 Aug 96 02:42:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05905; Tue, 20 Aug 96 02:42:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usnJf-00038BC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 02:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: 3.95: Still no message editing? Date: 18 Aug 1996 16:49:41 GMT Message-Id: References: lmilne@umich.edu (Lynda Milne): > In UNIX mail and mailx, it is possible to engage an editor to edit RECEIVED > messages. This is very helpful for cutting down on the volume of saved > messages. Unwanted lines and lines full of headers can be quickly deleted, > along with abundant, redundant inclusions of quoted messages. > You read, you edit, you save. Bingo: megabytes of unwanted fat removed. > Is this enhancement ever coming to the otherwise-now-perfect-PINE? Solution While-U-Wait: Weed away those unwanted header lines from mail folders with Fefe's weed script: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/sed/#weedout Usage: (1) Save the script text to file "weedout.sed" and then (2) Apply with "sed -f weedout.sed foldername" Credit goes to the author : Felix von Leitner leitner@math.fu-berlin.de I assume the script can somehow be worked in to PINE - anyone? Sven -- Sven Guckes guckes@math.fu-berlin.de [screen] [950818] SED Pages : http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/sed/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 02:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09208; Tue, 20 Aug 96 02:52:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05958; Tue, 20 Aug 96 02:48:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05952; Tue, 20 Aug 96 02:47:58 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 20 Aug 96 17:52:42 +0800 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 17:45:14 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: Patrick Giri Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: saving to file In-Reply-To: <4vb67t$k2s@mark.ucdavis.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 20 Aug 1996, Patrick Giri wrote: > Question (and pardon if this is already in the faq-just tell me and I'll > rtfm): How can I save parts of multiple messages (i.e., FAQ pt 1, 2, 3, > etc) and combine them into one text file? Hummmm.....I wonder why you wouldn't read the FAQ first and upon not finding the answer ask the question? That aside..... When reading the message type V(iewAttch). You will then see one or more lines. If the message is not MIME compliant, which yours was not, you'd see only one. Anyway, move your cursor to highlight what you want to save and type S(ave) you will be prompted for a file. Do this for the next message...and when you answer with the same file name from the first save you will be prompted for a(ppend) o(overwrite). Hope that is what you are looking to hear. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 04:47:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09570; Tue, 20 Aug 96 04:47:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25675; Tue, 20 Aug 96 04:44:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from paaetms.paaet.edu.kw by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25669; Tue, 20 Aug 96 04:44:37 -0700 Received: by paaetms (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA17287; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 14:48:43 -0300 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 14:48:43 -0300 (GMT) From: temeemi@paaetms.paaet.edu.kw To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Home and end keys In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Question: When composing a message, I can't get the cursor to move to the beginning or end of a sentence using the 'home' or 'end' key. What gives? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 04:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09812; Tue, 20 Aug 96 04:59:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07725; Tue, 20 Aug 96 04:57:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07719; Tue, 20 Aug 96 04:57:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uspPr-00038VC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 04:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bill Bradley Subject: Aliased email address Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 16:14:02 -0500 Message-Id: <3214E49A.1E17@insync.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How can you setup pine to send out mail with an aliased email address and not my normal email address. I have looked at the Setup Configuration but can't find a place where you'd enter one in. Any help appreciated. -- ---------------------\ bill bradley~m.k.ultra - billb@insync.net - www.insync.net/~drkfdr \--------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 04:59:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09807; Tue, 20 Aug 96 04:59:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25837; Tue, 20 Aug 96 04:57:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25831; Tue, 20 Aug 96 04:57:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uspQC-00038WC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 04:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Alan.Thew@liverpool.ac.uk (Alan Thew) Subject: Re: pine3.95 hangs (3.93 does not) Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 13:20:52 GMT Another followup... The problem is only with the SunOS4 version since the solaris2 pine 3.95 (Sun's cc) is OK. In article , Alan.Thew@liverpool.ac.uk says... > >I forgot to point out that I'm using the MH drivers. Things look fine >with the berkeley driver on the same mail item. > >In article , Alan.Thew@liverpool.ac.uk says... >> >>I've just tried upgrading to pine 3.95 from 3.93. 3.93 has been reliable >>and stable etc. The message that it hangs on has the following format. >>pine 3.93 is fine but 3.95 just shows the "busy" indicator and no other >>activity until I kill it. This is on SunOS4 . The amount of text is small. >> >>Thanks. >> >>Message-ID: >>Priority: Normal >>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY=Part9608130950A >> >>--Part9608130950A >>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII >> >>[some text] >> >> >>--Part9608130950A >>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; name="file.dos" >> >>[more text] >> >>--Part9608130950A >> >>-- >>Alan Thew >>alan.thew@liv.ac.uk ...!uknet!liv!alan.thew Tel: +44 151 794-4497 >>University of Liverpool, Computing Services Fax: +44 151 794-4442 >> > >-- >Alan Thew >alan.thew@liv.ac.uk ...!uknet!liv!alan.thew Tel: +44 151 794-4497 >University of Liverpool, Computing Services Fax: +44 151 794-4442 > -- Alan Thew alan.thew@liv.ac.uk ...!uknet!liv!alan.thew Tel: +44 151 794-4497 University of Liverpool, Computing Services Fax: +44 151 794-4442 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 04:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09828; Tue, 20 Aug 96 04:59:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25829; Tue, 20 Aug 96 04:57:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25823; Tue, 20 Aug 96 04:57:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uspPr-00038UC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 04:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Aliased email address Date: 16 Aug 1996 18:12:28 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3214E49A.1E17@insync.net> Bill Bradley writes: >How can you setup pine to send out mail with an aliased email address >and not my normal email address. Do you mean that you want the `From: ' line to say something other than your normal email address? The answer depends on which Pine you're using. In PC Pine for Windows, it's possible. In Pine for Unix you need to recompile it so that ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM is not commented out. -Nancy PS - I still thinking ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM should be the Pine default! -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 04:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08911; Tue, 20 Aug 96 04:59:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07717; Tue, 20 Aug 96 04:57:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07711; Tue, 20 Aug 96 04:57:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uspPm-00038TC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 04:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: afrotc@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU Subject: Re: Can't get "|" command to work? Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 16:46:50 CST Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Sorry to all for the confusion. Apparently I changed my configuration file and the result was that only the "Subject:" line would except key strokes. Any attempt to cursor into the ----- Message Text ----- area resulted in an error message. To add insult to injury, instead of postponing the message until I could figure out what happened, I sent it instead. Well that's my story and I'm sticking to it. I attempted to use the "|" (pipe) command while reading a message and got the following error message in reverse video [Command "|" Not defined for this screen. Use ? for help] I went to the help screen and the "|" command is listed as an option with no other information? St Louis University is using a UNIX version of Pine 3.91. I'm not sure this is the most current or if this is a bug! Thanks to all those who answered the mail, and again, sorry for the confusion --------- Phone: (618) 337-7575 x327 Ask for LtCol Robert "Bob" Boot (800) 851-3048 x327 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 05:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10178; Tue, 20 Aug 96 05:45:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26490; Tue, 20 Aug 96 05:42:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26484; Tue, 20 Aug 96 05:42:30 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 20 Aug 96 20:47:14 +0800 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 20:39:46 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Nancy McGough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Aliased email address In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 16 Aug 1996, Nancy McGough wrote: > Bill Bradley writes: > >How can you setup pine to send out mail with an aliased email address > >and not my normal email address. > > Do you mean that you want the `From: ' line to say something other > than your normal email address? The answer depends on which Pine > you're using. In PC Pine for Windows, it's possible. In Pine for > Unix you need to recompile it so that ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM is not > commented out. I'm not so sure I understand what Bill means by "aliased" email address. If he'd like the reply to go to a different account he could use the "Reply-To:" header in the customised headers. > PS - I still thinking ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM should be the Pine default! Sorry, I feel that is a very *bad* idea. I run the email system for our Asia Region and many folks here use things like Netscape Mail and other UAs which allow this as a default. I'm getting very tired of all the "undeliverable" mails that keep showing up. I finally get everyone trained and all the clients working....and then they hire a new group of people and the fun starts all over again! The *worst* part is some people will subscribe to mailing lists with their bad address!!! Then try to get some of the lists to unsubscribe!! Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 06:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10475; Tue, 20 Aug 96 06:25:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08699; Tue, 20 Aug 96 06:22:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08693; Tue, 20 Aug 96 06:22:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usqip-00038TC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 06:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Cartledge Subject: Problem with pine Date: 17 Aug 1996 19:44:45 GMT Message-Id: <4v57fd$adp@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have noticed some interesting (and inconsistent) behavior in Pine, concerning the message that is selected upon first entering a given folder. I have multiple inboxes. When I move between inboxes, Pine automatically selects the last message in the inbox. This behavior is consistent regardless of the sorting variable I use. If I move between folders (say, in my ~/Mail collection, the message currently selected by Pine varies, depending upon the sorting criterion I am using. In my ~/Mail folder colection, if I sort by reverse date, Pine automatically starts by selecting the first message in the folder. If I sort by date, Pine automatically selects the last message in the folder. I regard this as both sensible and desirable behavior, as the most recent message gets selected first, regardless of the sorting criterion. I used to have just the one incoming mailbox, sorting by reverse date. To get Pine to open at the first message in the mailbox (ie, that with the most recent date), I used the "initial-keystroke-list" feature, and just jumped right into my INBOX upon starting Pine. Now, I have multiple incoming mailboxes, and so the initial-keystroke-list feature is only useful for the very beginning of a Pine session, as in all subsequent moves between incoming mailboxes, it jumps to the last message in the mailbox. This is a most undesirable feature, if you are sorting by reverse date, as you always end up starting with the oldest message. My current solution has been to sort by date, rather than reverse date. The ideal behavior would be if switching between inboxes corresponded to the switching between folders in a folder collection. Has anyone else noticed this behavior, or can anyone suggest a better workaround than simply giving in to a different sorting criterion? Regards, David Cartledge From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 06:44:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09762; Tue, 20 Aug 96 06:44:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27196; Tue, 20 Aug 96 06:41:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from libby.rbls.lib.il.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27189; Tue, 20 Aug 96 06:41:05 -0700 Received: from localhost (dbowles@localhost) by libby.rbls.lib.il.us (8.7.3/CICNet) with SMTP id JAA15715 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 09:40:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 09:40:24 -0400 (EDT) From: David Bowles To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Minor bug help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When I came in today, I had a new version of PINE on the server. In sending messages to one of my newsgroups I noticed a curious thing. Usually my folder list has the form [no. of item, date, from name of person, subject]. The form is still the same but when I send mail to my group and it appears on my list it appears as: "To: misc.invest.stocks" and not as my personal-name (i.e., David Bowles). The personal-name in config is correct. Any suggestions? --David "When the Sleeper wakes" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 07:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10803; Tue, 20 Aug 96 07:04:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09267; Tue, 20 Aug 96 07:02:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [203.135.0.2] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09261; Tue, 20 Aug 96 07:02:20 -0700 Received: from localhost by paknet1.ptc.pk; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/14Apr96-0132PM) id AA18763; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 19:02:29 +0500 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 19:02:29 +0500 (GMT+0500) From: apollo telecom To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Problem Sending mail to UUCP Host Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! we have encountered with a bug in pine 3.93 , we developed a faxgateway choosing pine 3.89 as plateform for sending e-mail to our faxgateway that was a UUCP host. In Pine 3.89 the UUCP address scheme i.e. host!user worked fine but in pine 3.93 it does send the message but sendmail returns with error (554 No ! in UUCP !). We are unable to rectify it we used a shell script for sendmail path as well but it didn't work. We will really appriciate you if you kindly provide us some suggsetion for configuring our MTA (i.e. sendmail) for pine 3.93 to rectify this problem. Thanx and Regards Apollo Team (Working on first internet node in Pakistan) ############################################################ # /\ # # / \ 40, Marvi Road # # /____\ Sector F-7/1 # # /APOLLO\ Islamabad # # /________\ # # /__________\ The Art of Telecomunications # ############################################################ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 08:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12922; Tue, 20 Aug 96 08:28:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10911; Tue, 20 Aug 96 08:25:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dale.ucdavis.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10901; Tue, 20 Aug 96 08:24:59 -0700 Received: from localhost by dale.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.9) id IAA26028; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 08:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 08:24:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Giri X-Sender: szpegiri@dale.ucdavis.edu To: Ed Greshko Cc: Patrick Giri , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: saving to file In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks! Patrick Giri University of California, Davis pegiri@ucdavis.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 09:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14506; Tue, 20 Aug 96 09:31:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12762; Tue, 20 Aug 96 09:27:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12756; Tue, 20 Aug 96 09:27:00 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.lmco.com ([166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07295; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 12:26:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.lmco.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA02005; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 12:26:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (4.1/LMCO SunOS Server Nondomain-1.1) id AA17680; Tue, 20 Aug 96 12:25:00 EDT Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 12:24:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman X-Sender: sugarman@mmpcs1 To: temeemi@paaetms.paaet.edu.kw Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Home and end keys In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Aug 1996 temeemi@paaetms.paaet.edu.kw wrote: > Question: > When composing a message, I can't get the cursor to move to the beginning > or end of a sentence using the 'home' or 'end' key. What gives? > > In the Unix version of pine, use ^A to move to the beginning of the line and ^E to move to the end of the line. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 09:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14734; Tue, 20 Aug 96 09:40:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01356; Tue, 20 Aug 96 09:38:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01348; Tue, 20 Aug 96 09:38:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ustkO-00038BC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 09:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: Formated printing from Pine Date: 20 Aug 1996 10:20:10 -0500 Message-Id: <4vcl3a$no7@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: <321774B2.2925@macom.co.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article , Nancy McGough wrote: > I'm also curious to hear about things other people do to get nice > looking printed messages. I generally use `mailp' (part of mpdist). Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 10:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02698; Tue, 20 Aug 96 10:25:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02601; Tue, 20 Aug 96 10:23:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02595; Tue, 20 Aug 96 10:23:50 -0700 Received: from localhost (skramer@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.07/8.7.3+UW96.07) with SMTP id KAA13977 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 10:23:49 -0700 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 10:23:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Kramer Reply-To: Stefan Kramer To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Frequently Asked Questions about Pine Message-Id: Organization: "University of Washington, Computing and Communications" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The following is a plain-text version of the HTML document currently found on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/FAQs.html -------------------------------------------------------- Frequently Asked Questions about Pine What documentation is available for Pine? The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive online help. Additional documentation, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, and information on where to obtain the software, can be accessed: * In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ * Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form. * The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[] _________________________________________________________________ Who should I ask for help with Pine? If you need assistance with Pine, contact the technical support staff or computer help desk of your Internet Service Provider, school, university, employer -- whichever organization provided you with the email account on which you are using Pine. Due to the large number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington cannot provide individual support services to Pine users. University of Washington Pine users, please contact your departmental computer support staff; or send email to: help@cac.washington.edu You may also be able to find the answer to your question through the Pine Discussion Forum -- see http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ _________________________________________________________________ Why does command X not work? Some of the Pine commands you may read or hear about have to be explicitly enabled in the SETUP CONFIGURATION menu, which is accessed from Pine's MAIN MENU, to be functional. For example, to be able to use the "Bounce" command, the following feature has to be checked: [X] enable-bounce-cmd and to be able to use the "Select"/"Apply" operations, you must first check: [X] enable-aggregate-command-set _________________________________________________________________ How can I filter messages into different incoming folders? Pine does not perform delivery filtering; that is the function of other programs, such as (on Unix hosts) "procmail" or "mailagent." For details on selection and configuration of such programs, see the Filtering Mail FAQ (by Nancy McGough) at one of the following locations: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/ faq.html http://www.smartpages.com/faqs/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering_mail_faq.txt ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq Once you have successfully set up your delivery filtering, you will have new mail arriving in several different folders, in addition to your INBOX. You can then access these folders just like any other mail folder. You can also define a collection of incoming message folders in Pine, through which you can then TAB to read new messages. For more information, see Pine's internal help on the enable-incoming-folders feature in Pine's SETUP CONFIGURATION menu. _________________________________________________________________ How do I define my own headers like Reply-To and Organization? From Pine's MAIN MENU, choose Setup, then Config. Move down to the customized-hdrs option and read the context-sensitive help screen. _________________________________________________________________ How can I have a signature automatically appended to my mail messages? From Pine's MAIN MENU, choose Setup, then Signature. The text you enter in the SIGNATURE EDITOR (new in Pine 3.92) will be appended to all messages you compose. _________________________________________________________________ How do I send a message to multiple recipients without showing all their names? In Pine's message composer, with the cursor in the message headers area, press Ctrl-R ("rich headers"). Then read the context-sensitive help screens for the Bcc: and Lcc: fields. _________________________________________________________________ How can someone without Pine decipher an attachment to a message I send? Pine uses the MIME Internet standard for attaching files to email messages. Any MIME-capable mailer should be able to "understand" Pine's attachments. If the recipient of your message with attachment does not have MIME-capable email software, they should be able to save the attachment to a file and then decode that. One freely-available program which can decipher a MIME attachment is munpack from Carnegie Mellon. It is available at: ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu//pub/mpack _________________________________________________________________ Can Pine be used with a POP server? No. Neither Pine nor PC-Pine currently (as of version 3.95) support POP's offline mail model (wherein pending mail is pulled from the mail server to the local machine and deleted from the server). However, it is likely that this model will be supported, with a choice of either IMAP or POP as the access protocol, in a future release. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 10:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15639; Tue, 20 Aug 96 10:30:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14184; Tue, 20 Aug 96 10:28:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14178; Tue, 20 Aug 96 10:28:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usuW5-00038BC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 10:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Leslie D. Waters" Subject: Re: Pine questions Date: 16 Aug 1996 06:40:21 GMT Message-Id: <4v154l$nph@samba.rahul.net> References: Paul O Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) wrote: : On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Col.Brewster wrote: : > Next, is there a way to make pine automatically go through a message I'm : > composing and "justify" the entire thing. It takes a long time going : > through a document and doing every paragraph manually. : From your : second question, I presume you are using Pine's built-in composer. You : have the option of specifying a much more powerful editor if you wish : (vi, emacs, whatever horror turns you on), and that alternate editor : may have such a justification capability. I use vi, and it most definitely has a formatting feature. After typing the paragraph, put the cursor in the first column of the first line, and type !}fmt From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 10:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16031; Tue, 20 Aug 96 10:50:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03406; Tue, 20 Aug 96 10:48:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03397; Tue, 20 Aug 96 10:48:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ususf-00038BC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 10:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: Dis/enabling New Mail Notification On-The-Fly ? Date: 20 Aug 1996 10:17:36 -0500 Message-Id: <4vckug$r88@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article , Jan Vicherek wrote: > Hi. > > I would like to disable New Mail Notification w/out recompiling. > Any idea ? Setup -> Config -> mail-check-interval on pine3.95 should do what you want. The help even says: If set to zero, new-mail checking is disabled. > 2. If I compile pine with the time interval 0, I suppose it will > not check periodically at all. But will it check if I go to last > msg and press Next ? set your mail-check-interval and find out. > PS : please reply also to honza@ied.com Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 10:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16055; Tue, 20 Aug 96 10:50:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14860; Tue, 20 Aug 96 10:48:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14854; Tue, 20 Aug 96 10:48:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usut1-00038TC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 10:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: threading newsgroups Date: 20 Aug 1996 10:11:00 -0500 Message-Id: <4vcki4$qf7@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article , Zachary H Leber wrote: > Can pine thread news articles yet? That is the only reason I use tin > currently. No, but neither can tin, so why are you using that? Lurk on news.software.readers if you don't believe me. Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 11:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16805; Tue, 20 Aug 96 11:25:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04334; Tue, 20 Aug 96 11:23:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04322; Tue, 20 Aug 96 11:23:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usvCu-00038TC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 11:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: R R Neuswanger Subject: Re: Addressbook feature request Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 13:59:40 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Hans Schleichert wrote: > May I suggest that, in some future Pine version, you give the user the > possibility to add lines to the addressbook entries; for example, I'd like > to add a Postal, Phone or Fax entry. I second the request, and add another: some way of purging the .addressbook. Even just being able to use the select command and delete a bunch at once would help. As it is, I have to sit here with my face hanging out while pine deletes one single address, re-sorts the whole file (apparently -- and like as not tells me I'm exceeding quota while it does, and maybe hangs) and *then* (maybe) lets me take out one more. Even better would be to have it highlight all those addresses that it hadn't seen, coming nor going, for say a year ....; or all those with a particular note in the comment field, or all at a particular domain, or something. Any hope, pinebuilders?? R.R. (Beartooth) Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life rrne@loc.gov Gun control, the opiate of 202.707.8747 (shared line) the intellectuals: elitism I speak for me. Only. laced with self-righteousness. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 11:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16809; Tue, 20 Aug 96 11:25:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04346; Tue, 20 Aug 96 11:23:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04336; Tue, 20 Aug 96 11:23:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usvRx-00038UC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 11:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) Subject: Re: piping HTML to lynx Date: 20 Aug 1996 15:30:29 GMT Message-Id: <4vclml$1j8@srv13s4.cas.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT According to Nancy McGough : :brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) writes: :>Nancy McGough writes: :>> I'd like to be able to pipe an HTML doc to lynx (e.g., a MIME :>> attachement that I receive in pine). :> :>It's been my understanding that this is not possible in lynx and :>is one of (a variety of) reasons why lynx, for instance, is not :>able to integrate with Emacs (such as w3, Netscape, others, do). :>I look forward to being corrected about this. : :Does anyone know if there are plans for a future version of lynx :to understand standard in (.e.g. `cat foo.html | lynx')? What :character based browsers currently can get the html doc via stdin? :In the meantime, does anyone have a script that I (and others) Lynx's 2.5FM man page says: OPTIONS At start up, Lynx will load any local file or remote URL specified at the command line. For help with URLs, press "?" or "h" while running Lynx. Then follow the link titled, "Help on URLs." - If the only argument is '-', then Lynx expects to receive the arguments from stdin. This is to allow for the potentially very long command line that can be associated with the -get_data or -post_data arguments (see below). among other things. That means that stdin is already in use for something - command line arguments which are longer than the terminal can accept. So the currently method to do what is being describe is to pipe the html document into a temporary file and then invoke lynx on that temporary file. I don't see any way around this due to the need for stdin elsewhere. -- :s Larry W. Virden INET: lvirden@cas.org :s <*> O- "We are all Kosh." :s Unless explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting should :s be construed as representing my employer's opinions. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 11:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17047; Tue, 20 Aug 96 11:40:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04825; Tue, 20 Aug 96 11:38:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04819; Tue, 20 Aug 96 11:38:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usvcP-00038BC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 11:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Schleichert Subject: Addressbook feature request Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 10:15:33 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII May I suggest that, in some future Pine version, you give the user the possibility to add lines to the addressbook entries; for example, I'd like to add a Postal, Phone or Fax entry. - Hans -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Schleichert, Dipl.-Phys. Institut fuer Medizinische Psychologie und Verhaltensneurobiologie (Institute of Medical Psychology and Behavioural Neurobiology) Eberhard-Karls-University Gartenstrasse 29 D-72074 Tuebingen, Germany From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 11:46:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16994; Tue, 20 Aug 96 11:46:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16372; Tue, 20 Aug 96 11:43:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16366; Tue, 20 Aug 96 11:43:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usvi2-00038BC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 11:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Frank Wagner Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 binaries: huge? Date: 16 Aug 1996 09:44:27 +0200 Message-Id: References: <4uthag$p1s@college.antioch.edu> mike@hyperreal.com (Mike Brown) writes: > Pine 3.95: 3568K Pico 2.9: 616K > I compiled with all defaults, and I'm reasonably sure I didn't Hello, i think this is because you compiled pine with the debug Option "-g". Change this in the "Makefile" and your pine will get to normal size. Frank -- frank@sazza.ruhr.de 2:2448/4501.45 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 11:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17521; Tue, 20 Aug 96 11:58:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16760; Tue, 20 Aug 96 11:55:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mole.dc.isx.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16754; Tue, 20 Aug 96 11:55:25 -0700 Received: from abesina ([205.138.218.215]) by dc.isx.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22334; Tue, 20 Aug 96 14:54:56 EDT Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 14:55:19 -0400 () From: Murtaza Kamal Reply-To: Murtaza Kamal To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PC-Pine Configuration problem Message-Id: X-X-Sender: mkamal@dc.isx.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi -- I am using PC-Pine (ver 3.95) on windows'95. I am having trouble sending and recieving image file (gif file). Also, when I send/rcv a MS Word file, pine views the file as text/plain format. I have setup my MIMETYPE and MAILCAP files to reflect those (Image/gif and Text/doc) formats. But, I must be missing some setup. Can some one help me with the right setup for PC-Pine for send/rcv files correctly. I have checked the Pine's home page on MIME setups and those did not help. Thanks in advance, -- Murtaza From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 11:58:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17563; Tue, 20 Aug 96 11:58:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16768; Tue, 20 Aug 96 11:55:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from intfw.bear.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16762; Tue, 20 Aug 96 11:55:32 -0700 Received: by intfw.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23908; Tue, 20 Aug 96 14:55:24 EDT Received: from fastbear(165.168.74.3) by intfw via smap (V1.3) id sma023379; Tue Aug 20 14:53:11 1996 Received: from ursa2.bear.com by fastbear.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/1.0 AMR 12/15/94) id AA28148; Tue, 20 Aug 96 14:54:23 EDT Received: from whip_xfr.bear.com (whip-xfr) by ursa2.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/AMR+DJMS(2)) id AA19429; Tue, 20 Aug 96 14:54:11 EDT Received: from warlock.bsnet by whip_xfr.bear.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA26992; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 14:53:16 -0400 Received: from tiberius.bsnet by warlock.bsnet (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA08453; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 14:53:13 -0400 Received: from localhost by tiberius.bsnet (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA03459; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 14:53:11 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 14:53:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard G. Roberto" Reply-To: richr@bear.com To: Stefan Kramer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Frequently Asked Questions about Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Aug 1996, Stefan Kramer wrote: > > The following is a plain-text version of the HTML document > currently found on the World Wide Web at the URL: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/FAQs.html > -------------------------------------------------------- > > > Frequently Asked Questions about Pine > * * * snip * * * > > Can Pine be used with a POP server? > > No. Neither Pine nor PC-Pine currently (as of version 3.95) support > POP's offline mail model (wherein pending mail is pulled from the mail > server to the local machine and deleted from the server). However, it > is likely that this model will be supported, with a choice of either > IMAP or POP as the access protocol, in a future release. > What? I used to be able to put /pop3 after a host name {host/pop3} and use pop3 to download mail (pine3.91 on linux). I haven't used this in a while, though. Why has this been removed? It worked fine for me then. Oh well. Richard G. Roberto richr@bear.com 201-739-2886 - whippany, nj -- ******************************************************************************* Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. ******************************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 12:35:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18302; Tue, 20 Aug 96 12:35:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA06469 for pine-info-out; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 12:31:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id MAA06464 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 12:31:22 -0700 Received: from sparky2.esd.mun.ca (sparky2.esd.mun.ca [134.153.118.26]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA16944 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 17:01:20 -0230 (NDT) Received: by sparky2.esd.mun.ca id AA28284; Tue, 20 Aug 96 17:00:49 NDT Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 17:00:49 -0230 (NDT) From: "Darren T. Smith" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine 3.95 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine 3.95 prints to a desktop printer under Windows 3.1 with no trouble. Under Windows 95, however, I can print any message up to a maximum of ~2500-3000 bytes in length. When I try printing longer files (~4600 bytes) I get a printout of the list of messages in my INBOX along with all of the corresponding escape sequences. Anyone know why this is? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 14:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19541; Tue, 20 Aug 96 14:11:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01144; Tue, 20 Aug 96 14:05:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from roguewave.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01085; Tue, 20 Aug 96 14:05:13 -0700 Received: by fw.roguewave.com; id NAA19846; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 13:27:00 -0700 Received: from mailhub.roguewave.com(198.68.9.223) by fw.roguewave.com via smap (V3.1) id xma019831; Tue, 20 Aug 96 13:26:32 -0700 Received: from rw0140.roguewave.com by roguewave.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #2) id m0usxkW-000TiBC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 13:50 PDT Received: by rw0140.roguewave.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BB8E9F.0EFFA5C0@rw0140.roguewave.com>; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 13:54:08 -0700 Message-Id: <01BB8E9F.0EFFA5C0@rw0140.roguewave.com> From: "Aaron K. Neal" To: "'pine-info@cac.washington.edu'" Subject: PINE source code Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 13:54:07 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am trying to find PINE source code and it has been rumored that I can = download it from here. Could you tell me where it is and any other = pertinent information about retrieving it? Thanks, Aaron K. Neal Rogue Wave Software From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 14:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19570; Tue, 20 Aug 96 14:12:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01696; Tue, 20 Aug 96 14:08:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01592; Tue, 20 Aug 96 14:08:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usxV4-00038BC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 13:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: apg@ipl.co.uk Subject: MIME encoding and attachment function as shell command Date: 20 Aug 1996 09:46:01 -0700 Message-Id: <4vcq49$d6q@lex.zippo.com> I am in need of a command I can include in a shell script, which will MIME encode several binaries, attach them to a mail item and send to a specified address. I know that Pine is capable of performing this function, though as far as I can tell, it can only do it interactively. I have the Pine source, and presumably I could do some reverse engineering to incorporate the appropriate code into a new program. However, I am rather hoping that this job has already been done elsewhere, as it cannot be such an unusual requirement. If anyone has any ideas as to a) where I might find a program already written to do this job, or b) whereabouts in the pine source I should start looking for my entry point (I was thinking of 'call_mailer' in send.c, but advice welcome) I would be very grateful to be contacted at apg@ipl.co.uk. Thank you very much. Andy Graves. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 14:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19648; Tue, 20 Aug 96 14:17:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02069; Tue, 20 Aug 96 14:14:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from granite.sover.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02059; Tue, 20 Aug 96 14:14:03 -0700 Received: (from rc@localhost) by granite.sover.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) id QAA02373; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 16:23:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 16:23:16 -0400 (EDT) From: rc@sover.net To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Happy dude!! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm looking for good, I mean good Jokes. They can be big they can be small. I like getting/sending jokes through e mail so If you know a good joke and feel very generous send 'em to rc stands for really cool!! Tank u!!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 15:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12764; Tue, 20 Aug 96 15:01:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06049; Tue, 20 Aug 96 14:58:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06043; Tue, 20 Aug 96 14:58:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usym2-00038BC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 14:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jvichere@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Jan Vicherek) Subject: Dis/enabling New Mail Notification On-The-Fly ? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 01:46:36 GMT Hi. I would like to disable New Mail Notification w/out recompiling. Any idea ? 2. If I compile pine with the time interval 0, I suppose it will not check periodically at all. But will it check if I go to last msg and press Next ? Thanx, Jan PS : please reply also to honza@ied.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 15:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21051; Tue, 20 Aug 96 15:02:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06057; Tue, 20 Aug 96 14:58:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06051; Tue, 20 Aug 96 14:58:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usynB-00038VC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 14:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zach@world.std.com (Zachary H Leber) Subject: Re: Question about Blind Carbon Copy Message-Id: References: <4utiip$rj@mozz.unh.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 10:58:11 GMT Put yourself as the To: recipient and the list as the Bcc: recipient (exposed with Ctrl-R). This is the only way that is guaranteed to work, despite what advice you get about dummy fields and Lcc, which are not supported by all mailers in my experience. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 15:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21105; Tue, 20 Aug 96 15:03:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01958; Tue, 20 Aug 96 14:58:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01952; Tue, 20 Aug 96 14:58:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0usymx-00038UC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 14:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zach@world.std.com (Zachary H Leber) Subject: threading newsgroups Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 11:04:34 GMT Can pine thread news articles yet? That is the only reason I use tin currently. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 15:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21874; Tue, 20 Aug 96 15:31:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03300; Tue, 20 Aug 96 15:28:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03294; Tue, 20 Aug 96 15:28:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uszFp-00038BC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 15:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@somerville.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Unix PINE 3.95: "From" field for ng posts Date: 20 Aug 1996 11:26:14 GMT Message-Id: References: touch@umich.edu (Eric): > As you can see by this post, "to: comp.mail.pine" is listed where my name > should be. Any suggestions on which switch to turn on/off? > I've played with the setup/config, restored the defaults (I think) by > deleting .pinerc, and still I'm s.o.l. > Is this a 3.95 bug or an incompatibility with my .newsrc, or what? It's a feature. When you see "to: foo" then it only does this when it's from you. Thus you know it's from you. From noone else. And you know your name, right? So when you know it then why not show where you sent the message to? Sounds like a good idea? Well, that's what it does. Why turn it off? Doesn't the documentation explain this? Btw, the From: lines reads "From: Eric " - not "to: comp.mail.pine". You should have checked this before you posted! Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 17:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24034; Tue, 20 Aug 96 17:16:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id RAA06514 for pine-info-out; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 17:13:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id RAA06509 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 17:13:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ut0cl-00038BC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 16:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhd@Radix.Net (Joseph Davidson) Subject: Convert addresses between Pine, Eudora, Netscape Date: 20 Aug 1996 01:51:53 GMT Message-Id: <4vb5np$9ch@news1.radix.net> I have Web pages to convert the mailing lists between mailers. Eudora to Netscape Pine to Eudora Eudora to Pine Pine to Netscape You can find links to these scripts at the bottom of my Web page at www.interguru.com -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Davidson Ph.D. InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting Computer and Network Consulting, Win 95 and Mac 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 18:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23566; Tue, 20 Aug 96 18:01:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07610; Tue, 20 Aug 96 17:59:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07586; Tue, 20 Aug 96 17:58:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ut1Kr-00038BC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 17:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brianbhc@aol.com (Brianbhc) Subject: [pine] Date: 20 Aug 1996 20:33:25 -0400 Message-Id: <4vdlgl$ffk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> After what I thought was a successfull installation of Pine, it takes about 2 minutes for Pine to appear for the user...take a look at this process $ ps -ef|grep pine bman 12543 20971 1 20:31:00 pts/4 0:00 grep pine bman 23786 25577 0 20:24:22 pts/8 0:00 [pine] I've never seen a process in brackets before, any suggestions. Brian bman@bh-on-lc.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 18:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24068; Tue, 20 Aug 96 18:17:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11885; Tue, 20 Aug 96 18:16:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from yarra.vicnet.net.au by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11879; Tue, 20 Aug 96 18:16:12 -0700 Received: from rvib2.rvib.org.au (rvib2.rvib.org.au [203.3.138.1]) by yarra.vicnet.net.au (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id LAA08749 for <@yarra.vicnet.net.au:pine-info@cac.washington.edu>; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 11:13:44 +1000 Received: from rvib2.rvib.org.au by rvib2.rvib.org.au id aa29160; 21 Aug 96 11:09 AEST Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 11:09:06 +1000 (AEST) From: Les Wallis To: Pine Info Group Subject: Lynx manual pages Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can anyway send me a copy of the man pages for Lynx 2.4.2 to run under SCO Unix? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 18:55:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24901; Tue, 20 Aug 96 18:55:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12454; Tue, 20 Aug 96 18:54:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12448; Tue, 20 Aug 96 18:54:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ut2Th-00038BC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 18:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: touch@frogger.rs.itd.umich.edu (Robert Eric Touchberry) Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: 20 Aug 1996 12:39:42 GMT Message-Id: <4vcbme$emb@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- -- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Eric Touchberry ** I had nothing to offer anybody ** but my own confusion. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 22:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26644; Tue, 20 Aug 96 22:16:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15227; Tue, 20 Aug 96 22:14:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15220; Tue, 20 Aug 96 22:14:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ut5aV-00038UC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 22:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu (Annelise Anderson) Subject: .pinerc changing perms,own Date: 21 Aug 1996 05:07:12 GMT Message-Id: <4ve5i0$ron@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Pine is driving me crazy--if I use pine as root, the permissions on .pinerc are changed to 600 (guess that's okay) and the ownership is changed from my username to root, so when I try to use pine as an ordinary user it doesn't work.... Any cure for this? It did not used to do it. Annelise From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 22:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26135; Tue, 20 Aug 96 22:16:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11461; Tue, 20 Aug 96 22:14:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11455; Tue, 20 Aug 96 22:14:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ut5aN-00038TC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 22:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu (Annelise Anderson) Subject: Re: Frequently Asked Questions about Pine Date: 21 Aug 1996 05:04:05 GMT Message-Id: <4ve5c5$ron@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: Richard G. Roberto (richr@bear.com) wrote: : On Tue, 20 Aug 1996, Stefan Kramer wrote: : > : > The following is a plain-text version of the HTML document : > currently found on the World Wide Web at the URL: : > http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/FAQs.html : > -------------------------------------------------------- : > : > : > Frequently Asked Questions about Pine : > : * * * snip * * * : > : > Can Pine be used with a POP server? : > : > No. Neither Pine nor PC-Pine currently (as of version 3.95) support : > POP's offline mail model (wherein pending mail is pulled from the mail : > server to the local machine and deleted from the server). However, it : > is likely that this model will be supported, with a choice of either : > IMAP or POP as the access protocol, in a future release. : > : What? I used to be able to put /pop3 after a host name : {host/pop3} and use pop3 to download mail (pine3.91 on : linux). I haven't used this in a while, though. Why has : this been removed? It worked fine for me then. Oh well. : Richard G. Roberto : richr@bear.com : 201-739-2886 - whippany, nj I use popclient -3 to get mail from a popserver and put it in one of pine's incoming folders in my home directory. This is in 3.94. It operates independently of pine. Annelise : -- : ******************************************************************************* : Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or : agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account : activity contained in this communication. : ******************************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 22:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26930; Tue, 20 Aug 96 22:31:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11647; Tue, 20 Aug 96 22:29:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11641; Tue, 20 Aug 96 22:29:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ut5n5-00038TC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 22:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "p.a.alkin" Subject: Want to know a Secret ? Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 15:08:45 +0100 Message-Id: <3219C6ED.677F@imaginet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi.. Do you get utterly fed up with looking at a blank screen waiting for the next Web page to download ? Have you ever thought how wonderful it would be to tap in ALL your requirements, send them on their way, then switch off the PC, and do something useful like having a few beers with the boys, whilst your personal valet rushed off and sorted the problems out for you. Well you can. And that's not all ... YOU can also : # Email Free faxes to ANY fax machine in many major countries. # Code Search Engines to find the resources you seek and report effortlessly back to you. Even while you sleep !! # Download Daily & Sunday newspapers automatically to your PC or Fax. You can even select the bits you want to receive !! i.e. Yes to the News and Sport but no to Fashion. etc., # Translate foreign documents with free software. These and many more Internet Secrets are Distributed monthly to GRADNET members. If you would like me to send you the URL link to a FREE INTERNET Secret please send me a BLANK email reply containing the Subject line of " FREE SECRET " to ... alkin@imaginet.fr There's no charge. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 23:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26696; Tue, 20 Aug 96 23:11:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15971; Tue, 20 Aug 96 23:09:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15965; Tue, 20 Aug 96 23:09:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ut6Q3-00038BC; Tue, 20 Aug 96 23:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: piping HTML to lynx Date: 18 Aug 1996 13:48:23 -0400 Message-Id: References: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) writes: >Nancy McGough writes: >> I'd like to be able to pipe an HTML doc to lynx (e.g., a MIME >> attachement that I receive in pine). > >It's been my understanding that this is not possible in lynx and >is one of (a variety of) reasons why lynx, for instance, is not >able to integrate with Emacs (such as w3, Netscape, others, do). >I look forward to being corrected about this. Does anyone know if there are plans for a future version of lynx to understand standard in (.e.g. `cat foo.html | lynx')? What character based browsers currently can get the html doc via stdin? In the meantime, does anyone have a script that I (and others) can use with pine to pipe an HTML MIME attachment to? Thanks much, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Aug 1996 23:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27401; Tue, 20 Aug 96 23:34:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16323; Tue, 20 Aug 96 23:33:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16317; Tue, 20 Aug 96 23:33:20 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 21 Aug 96 14:38:02 +0800 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 14:30:32 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Annelise Anderson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: .pinerc changing perms,own In-Reply-To: <4ve5i0$ron@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 21 Aug 1996, Annelise Anderson wrote: > Pine is driving me crazy--if I use pine as root, the permissions > on .pinerc are changed to 600 (guess that's okay) and the > ownership is changed from my username to root, so when I try to > use pine as an ordinary user it doesn't work.... > > Any cure for this? It did not used to do it. IFF you want to use pine as root....then login as root. I suspect you are doing an "su". Well, try doing "su - root". Thus you will really take on the environment of root. Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 00:41:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27994; Wed, 21 Aug 96 00:41:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13367; Wed, 21 Aug 96 00:39:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13361; Wed, 21 Aug 96 00:39:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ut7qh-00038BC; Wed, 21 Aug 96 00:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul Mitchell Subject: Re: lists my name and not sent to: Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 11:06:08 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 12 Aug 1996, David Kafrissen wrote: > Some of the messages in my sent-mail folder when viewed show my name and > not who they were sent to. Some messages when viewed show who they were > sent to (which is the prefered behavior). I have looked at the messages in > the Unix tool less and I can not see the difference between the two sets > of messages. > > Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? This is very annoying! > Solved the problem, finally. Check out the config entry: index-format Mine had an entry which included the From: field (possibly to cure the situation where you look at a letter you posted to a newsgroup and it has replaced your name with To: field entry). Removing the entry (going with the default) solved the problem. Paul ============================================================================== Paul Mitchell email: paulm@thing.oit.unc.edu Office of Information Technology phone: (919) 962-5259 University of North Carolina ============================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 00:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26750; Wed, 21 Aug 96 00:52:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17281; Wed, 21 Aug 96 00:50:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from andrsn.Stanford.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17275; Wed, 21 Aug 96 00:50:32 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost.Stanford.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA00482; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 00:20:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 00:20:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: .pinerc changing perms,own In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 21 Aug 1996, Annelise Anderson wrote: > > > Pine is driving me crazy--if I use pine as root, the permissions > > on .pinerc are changed to 600 (guess that's okay) and the > > ownership is changed from my username to root, so when I try to > > use pine as an ordinary user it doesn't work.... > > > > Any cure for this? It did not used to do it. > > IFF you want to use pine as root....then login as root. I > suspect you are doing an "su". Well, try doing "su - root". Thus > you will really take on the environment of root. Okay I'll try that--I have been using su. Thanks. Annelise > > Ed > > ----- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 01:09:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28166; Wed, 21 Aug 96 01:09:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13749; Wed, 21 Aug 96 01:07:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13743; Wed, 21 Aug 96 01:07:56 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 21 Aug 1996 09:05:32 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA11688; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 09:07:31 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 09:07:30 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Aaron K. Neal" Cc: "'pine-info@cac.washington.edu'" Subject: Re: PINE source code In-Reply-To: <01BB8E9F.0EFFA5C0@rw0140.roguewave.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The Pine source code kit is available, along with pre-compiled binaries for some platforms, by anonymus ftp from: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine The source kit has been bundled up into a "tar archive" and then compressed. Make sure you retrieve this compressed file using a binary transfer (not ASCII/text). Having retrieved it you will then need to uncompress it, then un-tar it. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 20 Aug 1996, Aaron K. Neal wrote: > I am trying to find PINE source code and it has been rumored that I can download it from here. Could you tell me where it is and any other pertinent information about retrieving it? > > Thanks, > > Aaron K. Neal > Rogue Wave Software > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 05:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30384; Wed, 21 Aug 96 05:19:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17234; Wed, 21 Aug 96 05:16:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17228; Wed, 21 Aug 96 05:16:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utCBT-00038BC; Wed, 21 Aug 96 05:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Want to know a Secret ? Date: 21 Aug 1996 12:14:18 GMT Message-Id: References: <3219C6ED.677F@imaginet.fr> alkin@imaginet.fr (p.a.alkin): > # Email Free faxes to ANY fax machine in many major countries. > # Code Search Engines to find the resources you seek and report > effortlessly back to you. Even while you sleep !! > # Download Daily & Sunday newspapers automatically to your PC > or Fax. You can even select the bits you want to receive !! > i.e. Yes to the News and Sport but no to Fashion. etc., > # Translate foreign documents with free software. > > There's no charge. ... yet! Sven [btdt] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 09:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02590; Wed, 21 Aug 96 09:43:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26444; Wed, 21 Aug 96 09:38:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26432; Wed, 21 Aug 96 09:38:02 -0700 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr48.interl.net [205.244.161.48]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA28426; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 11:37:14 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 11:38:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Englander X-Sender: root@necro.interl.net To: "Richard G. Roberto" Cc: Stefan Kramer , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Frequently Asked Questions about Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 20 Aug 1996, Richard G. Roberto wrote: > > Can Pine be used with a POP server? > > > > No. Neither Pine nor PC-Pine currently (as of version 3.95) support > > POP's offline mail model (wherein pending mail is pulled from the mail > > server to the local machine and deleted from the server). However, it > > is likely that this model will be supported, with a choice of either > > IMAP or POP as the access protocol, in a future release. > > > > What? I used to be able to put /pop3 after a host name > {host/pop3} and use pop3 to download mail (pine3.91 on > linux). I haven't used this in a while, though. Why has > this been removed? It worked fine for me then. Oh well. It hasn't been removed. I'm running Pine 3.95 under Linux and I've got a folder in my incoming folders section exactly like you just mentioned. Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMhs7aiGB07hAGnFhAQH3MwP/f7YRn4Qw37bOJxgSt2jxaTUeSqwD37Mt A0htoWweQGT4U2e74NDm++Z7QoZMChBV873wnZQCEsjYI+Z3il4HkSlCaOzGKnro WleIFEFN1fue80+C9H4Z0Q+g6/0MeqI4Q9ICV7jWqONvRNSFTWiix7m7TDN4SWg6 FnbIxO+Ekro= =nZn3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jason Englander -=- Burlington, IA - USA E-mail: jasoneng@interl.net, necrojason@geocities.com WWW: http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ PGP-Key: send mail with subject: "get-pgp-key" =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 10:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03362; Wed, 21 Aug 96 10:24:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27714; Wed, 21 Aug 96 10:21:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc1.nerc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27708; Wed, 21 Aug 96 10:21:00 -0700 Received: from nerc.com (ppp13.nerc.com [205.247.120.213]) by nerc1.nerc.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA09654 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 13:20:54 -0400 Received: (from luomat@localhost) by nerc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA03048 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 13:20:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199608211720.NAA03048@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.3) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Wed, 21 Aug 96 13:20:44 -0400 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How to get a list of the newsgroups? Reply-To: luomat@nerc.com Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary My ISP claims to have added new newsgroups. How can I find out what they are using PINE (3.95)? I don't see any features which relate to this. Thanks TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma http://www.nerc.com/~luomat My USENET feed is slow and not very reliable NeXT info: EMAIL with SUBJECT: send-ascii info PGP 2.6.2 key: email with SUBJECT: send-ascii pgpkey From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 10:37:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23454; Wed, 21 Aug 96 10:37:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24339; Wed, 21 Aug 96 10:31:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24333; Wed, 21 Aug 96 10:31:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utH63-00038BC; Wed, 21 Aug 96 10:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Subject: cmsg cancel <3219C6ED.677F@imaginet.fr> Date: 21 Aug 1996 17:25:18 GMT Control: cancel <3219C6ED.677F@imaginet.fr> Message-Id: Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19960821.13. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19960821.13.html for complete report. Original Subject: Want to know a Secret ? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 11:06:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04315; Wed, 21 Aug 96 11:06:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25363; Wed, 21 Aug 96 11:01:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pure.pure.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25357; Wed, 21 Aug 96 11:01:32 -0700 Received: from mw_dkafrissen.pure.com (pc2151.pure.com [192.232.2.151]) by pure.pure.com (8.7.5/8.7.3/PURE) with SMTP id LAA11005 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 11:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 11:03:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "David H. Kafrissen" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PC Pine and multiple inboxes In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-X-Sender: davidk@euclid.pure.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings, Can I have multiple inboxes in PC Pine. When I attempt to add another value for the inbox's in setup configure Pine replies "Only one value allowed" Thanks in advance! David Kafrissen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 12:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05685; Wed, 21 Aug 96 12:10:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26988; Wed, 21 Aug 96 11:52:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26982; Wed, 21 Aug 96 11:52:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utIJD-00038BC; Wed, 21 Aug 96 11:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu (Ashok Aiyar) Subject: Re: POP3 Date: 17 Aug 1996 21:40:58 GMT Message-Id: References: <4v55ld$k0c@rain.psg.com> On 17 Aug 1996 12:13:49 -0700, Robert Bidleman wrote: >I have attempted to use the following line both as a value for >inbox AND incoming folder archive: > >POP3 MAIL (pop3host.metro.net/pop3) > >to no avail...should I write in another value for the "pop3host"? >I read this line from a PINE help post. You should replace "pop3host.metro.net" with the actual hostname and domainname of the computer that is running a pop3 daemon (server) and that you have an account on. Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. Department of Oncology email: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu University of Wisconsin-Madison tel: (608) 262-6697 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 13:26:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07612; Wed, 21 Aug 96 13:26:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03520; Wed, 21 Aug 96 13:22:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03514; Wed, 21 Aug 96 13:22:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utJiz-00038BC; Wed, 21 Aug 96 13:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Steven King" Subject: Re: 3.95: Still no message editing? Date: 21 Aug 1996 13:17:38 GMT Message-Id: <4vf29i$dfr@pshrink.chi.il.us> References: Lynda Milne wrote: >This is a nice little script, and it does the trick for the headers, >saving me (on a quick test of about 20 files) around 20% disk space >per file. THANKS! Another suggestion for the Pine developers might be to have Pine support compressed (or gzip'd) mail folders. -- Steven King, Proprietor of the PShrink Wrap BBS veck@pshrink.chi.il.us >> The Bumpy Two-Track Dirt Frontage Road << 14400 data & fax: >> Next To The Information Superhighway << +1 708 487 9727 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 14:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08428; Wed, 21 Aug 96 14:02:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04538; Wed, 21 Aug 96 13:57:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04528; Wed, 21 Aug 96 13:57:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utKHG-00038BC; Wed, 21 Aug 96 13:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: Re: lists my name and not sent to: Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 15:44:24 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, David Kafrissen wrote: |So the next question is how do I set the mail domain? I cannot look at ir |right now. Whenever I start Pine it give me an error that the mail domain |is incorrect. In the configuration screen it should be the first entry: User Domain. type A add and enter in your domain name. | |Thanks in advance | |David Kafrissen Beth Peterson |A tiny change today brings us to a| bethp@fnal |dramatically different tomorrow. | Physics Department |-- Richard Bach | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 14:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08560; Wed, 21 Aug 96 14:11:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04904; Wed, 21 Aug 96 14:07:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04895; Wed, 21 Aug 96 14:07:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utKOx-00038TC; Wed, 21 Aug 96 14:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: Re: Name not reflected Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 15:57:08 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: This is a frequent question. Your name does show up in the index correctly to us. In other words this is what we see: 75 Aug 14 sin wei Name not reflected where as you probably see: 75 Aug 14 To: comp.mail.pine Name not reflected right? If you want to see you name in the list instead of To: suchand such in the config screen (M main, S setup, C config) look for the feature index-format, I think that it is towards the bottom. Type A add and then type in: STATUS MSGNO DATE FROM(33%) SIZE SUBJECT(67%) this should do what you are looking for. |How can i make my name reflected on the newsgroup (i.e. 2nd column)? I |can't get it done and it always give me [To: Newsgroup] instead of my |name. Please email to me personally, thanks! | | Sin wei {eng50265@nus.leonis.sg} | | | Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 14:14:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08212; Wed, 21 Aug 96 14:14:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id OAA01468 for pine-info-out; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 14:07:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id OAA01404 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 14:06:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utKOt-00038BC; Wed, 21 Aug 96 14:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: Re: multiple, mutually exclusive To: recipients Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 15:50:30 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4v7hg1$4mq@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4v84fj$ok@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4v84fj$ok@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> I do not think that there is any way to do what you are asking for. There are ways to show everyone or no one but not send to everyone but only show personal names to the "sendee". If there is I would like to know as well though. |Paul O Bartlett wrote: | |: Put the list of recipients in the Bcc: field. You need to be _sure_ |: to put *something* in the To: field. A cheap and easy way which should |: work regardless of how current your version of Pine is, is to put |: yourself (i.e., your own email address) in the To: field. If you don't | | |That won't do what I want. That will send a copy of the mail to each |recipient in the Bcc: field, however, each piece of mail will have the same |To: field. I would like the To: field to contain the name of each |recipient who receives the mail, and only his name, so that it looks as if I |sent the mail to him alone. | | | | Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 14:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09550; Wed, 21 Aug 96 14:45:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id OAA02564 for pine-info-out; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 14:41:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id OAA02559 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 14:41:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utL1F-00038BC; Wed, 21 Aug 96 14:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: Re: Question about Blind Carbon Copy Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 16:31:17 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4utiip$rj@mozz.unh.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4utiip$rj@mozz.unh.edu> To clearify some of these messages up for you: Depending on what version you are using there are different ways that you can do this. If you are using 3.93+ then you can do the Lcc way as noted in a previous message to you. If you do not have 3.93+ then you can do it by using the Bcc way as noted but you have to place :; (a colon followed by a semi-colon) in the to field. If you do not place the :; the recipents will still see eveyone elses name. | |Hi, | | I just put together a mailing list. Is there a way to make it so |that the recipient of the message doesn't receive the names of all the |other names on the list. I was told Blind Carbon Copy is a way to do |this but i don't know if it exists on pine. | Please respond by email. | | Thanks, | Jon Frain | | Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 16:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11818; Wed, 21 Aug 96 16:21:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA08396 for pine-info-out; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 16:16:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA08391 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 16:16:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utMVa-00038TC; Wed, 21 Aug 96 16:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ruefenac@obtuse.cs.utah.edu (Craig R. Ruefenacht) Subject: X-Reply-To in Pine? Date: 21 Aug 1996 22:21:30 GMT Message-Id: <4vg25a$kbp@magus.cs.utah.edu> Hi, Does anyone know if Pine supports the X-Reply-To (or Reply-To) header? I am trying to get Pine to use this header for the address to reply to when I reply to mail, but I haven't been able to get it to work. Elm, zmail, rmail, and other mailers do this automatically, but Pine doesn't. Any help anyone can give me would be greatly appreciated. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Craig Ruefenacht ruefenac@cs.utah.edu University of Utah - College of Engineering - Salt Lake City Utah World Wide Web: http://www.cs.utah.edu/~ruefenac ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 16:23:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11805; Wed, 21 Aug 96 16:23:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA05096 for pine-info-out; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 16:19:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dc.isx.com (mole.dc.isx.com [205.138.218.44]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA05091 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 16:19:50 -0700 Received: from abesina.dc.isx.com ([205.138.218.215]) by dc.isx.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08158; Wed, 21 Aug 96 19:19:17 EDT Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:19:37 -0400 () From: Murtaza Kamal Reply-To: Murtaza Kamal To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How do I view a gif file? Message-Id: X-X-Sender: mkamal@dc.isx.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi -- I am using PC-Pine for windows ver 3.95. Everytime I rcv a gif file pine responses by "Don't Know how to display Image/Gif Attachments; Try Saving the file". I have following entries: in MIMETYPE "image/gif gif", and in MAILCAP "image/*;C:\Program Files\Accessories\MSPAINT.EXE" Do I need to do any other set up? How do I view the gif files or a msword file with appropriate viewer? Thanks in advance. -- Murtaza From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 16:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12402; Wed, 21 Aug 96 16:45:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA09068 for pine-info-out; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 16:42:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc1.nerc.com (nerc1.nerc.com [205.247.120.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id QAA09063 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 16:42:05 -0700 Received: from nerc.com (ppp15.nerc.com [205.247.120.215]) by nerc1.nerc.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA12639; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:42:06 -0400 Received: (from luomat@localhost) by nerc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA09517; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:41:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199608212341.TAA09517@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.3) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Wed, 21 Aug 96 19:41:53 -0400 To: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de Subject: Re: How to get a list of the newsgroups? Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Reply-To: luomat@nerc.com References: <4vfgne$ocv@rain.psg.com> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) on Thu, 22 Aug 96 wrote: > Pine has an "email" feature. > Send an "email" to postmaster@nerc.com ! > Ask him about those new newsgroups. > And for a copy of the netiquette. Oh really? Thank you very much. 'tin' and most other newsreaders have a feature which will prompt you about the new newsgroups, and ask if you want to subscribe to them. If pine has a way to do this, I haven't been able to find it. Having to manually subscribe to newsgroups isn't exactly what I hope for in a newsreader.... TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma http://www.nerc.com/~luomat My USENET feed is slow and not very reliable NeXT info: EMAIL with SUBJECT: send-ascii info PGP 2.6.2 key: email with SUBJECT: send-ascii pgpkey From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 16:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11476; Wed, 21 Aug 96 16:46:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA05775 for pine-info-out; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 16:42:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA05770 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 16:42:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utMrv-00038UC; Wed, 21 Aug 96 16:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rhilto@acxiom.com (Bob Hilton) Subject: Re: Questions Need ANSWER WILL PAY $$ for ANswer Date: 17 Aug 1996 19:26:21 GMT Message-Id: <4v56ct$b4t@ren.cei.net> References: <3213CDD0.408F@ma.ultranet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII If you approached my company with a proposal like this, I'd toss you out on the street -- if you want to do business with professionals, try learning how to use your spell checker and grammar checker. bh. In article <3213CDD0.408F@ma.ultranet.com>, lsylvia@ma.ultranet.com says... I am looking to start a business taht gives, and manges EMAIL address to business in Area. I would give each an own email address added after my domain name. In CA a business charges each compnay $5.00 per month and one time setiup fee. You fax the business there Email... I then checked with my provider they want $5,00 per month for EACH new Mail box.. this is way too much... It would mean I would charge $10 per month and not be an intiseing to compnaies. Another program needed.. I need to have any email with customers address automatically faxed to there machine. In begining is okay to send it manually, but as business grows need it automated.. anyone have any ideas. Looking for cheap costs effect soulitions... provider reccomended gettting my own mail sorter, and it would sory mail out? Anyone know about this tyep of program?? Is it better to start my own server, and lease a line from provider? Costs and equipmetn needed to set upo own server.. and jsut use the providers line?? I am willing to pay $$ for the right soulutions that work for us.. Need answers Yesterday for have over 1000 companies taht are serious and in need of this service. They watn WW Webb page linkage, and this would do it for them.. Also other compnaies with email address don't log in and check there mail regualry, and this would allow them to receeive there mail thru fax, and reply with terhe own computer.. EMAIL a reply and answer soon... THANK LMS From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 16:50:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12491; Wed, 21 Aug 96 16:50:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA09173 for pine-info-out; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 16:46:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA09168 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 16:46:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utMx3-00038TC; Wed, 21 Aug 96 16:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edpaolo@intac.com (Ed Paolo) Subject: Re: Home and end keys Date: 21 Aug 1996 23:05:49 GMT Message-Id: <4vg4od$61l@uucp.intac.com> References: : On Tue, 20 Aug 1996 temeemi@paaetms.paaet.edu.kw wrote: : > Question: : > When composing a message, I can't get the cursor to move to the beginning : > or end of a sentence using the 'home' or 'end' key. What gives? : > : > : In the Unix version of pine, use ^A to move to the beginning of the line : and ^E to move to the end of the line. : Don Sugarman : sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com Temeen: You might want to remap your keyboard to have the 'CTL Home' key for Ctl A and 'Ctl End' key for ctl E. I didn't remap the regular Home and End keys because I use them in Lynx. -- EdDataFix edpaolo@nile.intac.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 18:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13425; Wed, 21 Aug 96 18:02:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id RAA07276 for pine-info-out; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 17:58:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id RAA07271 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 17:58:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utO45-00038WC; Wed, 21 Aug 96 17:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edpaolo@intac.com (Ed Paolo) Subject: Tin: takes to long loading up Group Date: 21 Aug 1996 11:25:20 GMT Message-Id: <4vern0$2vh@uucp.intac.com> [ Article crossposted from news.software.readers ] [ Author was ] [ Posted on 17 Aug 1996 21:11:46 GMT ] I have been using Tin 1.2 for about 3 months now and like its full screen as opposed to Windows. But lately I have been noticing that once I select a group of about 100 queries, it can take a good minute to load up. If I go to TNEWS for the same newsgroup it will take only 5 seconds. Now I haven't changed anything, I don't know if my ISP has. But is there something that I could check, to speed up things once the group is selected? Starting up and even reading the queries in the group seems find. TIA -- EdDataFix edpaolo@nile.intac.com -- EdDataFix edpaolo@nile.intac.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 18:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13419; Wed, 21 Aug 96 18:02:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id RAA10527 for pine-info-out; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 17:58:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id RAA10522 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 17:58:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utO2m-00038VC; Wed, 21 Aug 96 17:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jshin@pantheon.yale.edu (Jungshik Shin) Subject: Re: MIME encoding and attachment function as shell command Date: 21 Aug 1996 10:30:45 -0400 Message-Id: <4vf6il$av9@net161-61.student.yale.edu> References: <4vcq49$d6q@lex.zippo.com> apg@ipl.co.uk wrote: : I am in need of a command I can include in a shell script, which will : MIME encode several binaries, attach them to a mail item and send to a : I know that Pine is capable of performing this function, though as far as : I can tell, it can only do it interactively. I have the Pine source, and : presumably I could do some reverse engineering to incorporate the You don't have to. metamail 2.7 (mm2.7.tar.Z) available at ftp://thumper.bellcore.com contains what you need, "metasend" along with other utils to deal with MIME messages. metasend can be used both interactively and in batch mode. Jungshik From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 18:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13421; Wed, 21 Aug 96 18:02:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id RAA07269 for pine-info-out; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 17:58:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id RAA07264 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 17:58:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utO1s-00038UC; Wed, 21 Aug 96 17:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wizard@mrinc.com (The Wizard) Subject: pine3.95 compile bug - unixware 2 (easy fix) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 15:24:43 GMT Message-Id: <321b26e4.59248474@news.dtc.net> There is no libx library in UnixWare 2. Remove the -lx from pine/makefile.uw2 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 18:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13101; Wed, 21 Aug 96 18:04:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id SAA10591 for pine-info-out; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 18:01:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id SAA10586 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 18:01:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utO6H-00038UC; Wed, 21 Aug 96 17:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Edward M. DeSear" <"ordog 5"@tribeca.ios.com> Subject: Saving Attachment to C Drive Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 06:50:27 -0700 Message-Id: <4veuj4$lt0@news.ios.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How do I move an attachment (a .jpg file) from my UNIX shell to a directory on my c drive? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 18:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13804; Wed, 21 Aug 96 18:39:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id SAA07835 for pine-info-out; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 18:36:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id SAA07830 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 18:36:04 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 22 Aug 96 09:40:43 +0800 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 09:33:13 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "Edward M. DeSear" <"ordog 5"@tribeca.ios.com> Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Saving Attachment to C Drive In-Reply-To: <4veuj4$lt0@news.ios.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Edward M. DeSear wrote: > How do I move an attachment (a .jpg file) from my UNIX shell to a > directory on my c drive? It depends on "many" things. You need to describe your environment before anyone can really help you. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14118; Wed, 21 Aug 96 19:31:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA08469 for pine-info-out; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:28:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA08464 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:28:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utPQj-00038UC; Wed, 21 Aug 96 19:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Melusky" Subject: Re: HELP Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:19:49 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 11 Aug 1996, John O. Stambaugh wrote: > Please send a keystroke for keystroke process to put my name in the "from" > box. When I reply to someone in a newsgroup my message as listed in the > "I" or list screen has "reply to" or something like that. Using Pine 3.93 > on a shell account. > Thanks > John O. Stambaugh > Lantana, Florida USA Hi John, There is no need to do anything I guess. I was told that everyone else can see the name "John O. Stambaugh" but we can't see our own names. Take care, Jon. PS If you want to see your own name then ask this group again but be specific in the subject line. "HELP" does not get a whole lot of replies compared to a detailed subject line. Ok? It is also the same in the personals Usenet groups. If you don't put the city and area code of yourself in the subject line then you will get almost no responses. o __/\o_ __o < \ _ \<_ _/\ (_)/(_) / Triathalon From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13895; Wed, 21 Aug 96 19:56:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA12111 for pine-info-out; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:53:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA12099 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:53:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utPrn-00038UC; Wed, 21 Aug 96 19:51 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brian@igc.org (Brian J. Coan) Subject: Re: 3.95: Still no message editing? Date: 21 Aug 1996 16:36:18 -0700 Message-Id: <4vg6hi$2qm@igc.apc.org> References: <4vf29i$dfr@pshrink.chi.il.us> Steven King wrote: > Another suggestion for the Pine developers might be to have Pine support > compressed (or gzip'd) mail folders. we've hacked our version of pine here (3.91) to do this. 1) going into a folder that's been gzip'd unzips it first. 2) saving into a folder that's gzip'd appends gzip fashion 3) you can specify either "foldername" or "foldername.z" and if one of those exists, or neither exists, it does the right thing. if both exist, it complains. happy to share this with the pine developers if they want it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian J. Coan PeaceNet * EcoNet * ConflictNet * LaborNet * WomensNet 1+415-322-9069 Institute for Global Communications brian@igc.apc.org Association for Progressive Communications From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 21:27:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15022; Wed, 21 Aug 96 21:27:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA09951 for pine-info-out; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 21:23:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id VAA09945 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 21:23:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utRCi-00038XC; Wed, 21 Aug 96 21:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ruefenac@emily.cs.utah.edu (Craig R. Ruefenacht) Subject: Re: X-Reply-To in Pine? Date: 22 Aug 1996 03:57:00 GMT Message-Id: <4vglqc$nv0@magus.cs.utah.edu> References: <4vg25a$kbp@magus.cs.utah.edu> Paul O Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) wrote: : On 21 Aug 1996, Craig R. Ruefenacht wrote: : > Does anyone know if Pine supports the X-Reply-To (or Reply-To) : > header? I am trying to get Pine to use this header for the : > address to reply to when I reply to mail, [...] : You can add the Reply-To: header yourself. From the Pine main : menu, just go into Setup and Config. Scroll down to customized-hdrs: : and add the header you want. That should do it. : Paul That doesn't solve my problem.......I want to know how to get pine to *recognize* the Reply-to header when pine *receives* mail with this header. I am not trying to add headers to a message I compose in pine. I am trying to get pine to recognize the header on incomming mail. Lets say that someone from Germany sends me mail, and has a X-Reply-To: header in his mail. So the headers look like this: From: johndoe@germany.free X-Reply-To: janedoe@japan.com Now, I go read the message in pine. Cool. Now I want to reply. So, I hit the "R" key for reply, and whala, the mail is addressed to go to johndoe@germany.free. Humm... johndoe put a x-reply-to header in his mail so that MY mailer would send any replies to janedoe@japan.com, NOT johndoe@germany.free. I can't get pine to recognize that when mail IT RECEIVES has x-reply-to headers, to USE that header for the reply address INSTEAD of the "from" header. I've tried it with X-Reply-To: and Reply-To, and neither worked. Sure I could do it manually, but this is not for me. I use zmail. But I am writing a tracking system for mail, and all the mailers I have tested understand the Reply-To: header stuff, but Pine doesn't. Reason why I need it to work is because people will be getting mail from my tracking system, with x-reply-to headers in the mail. Some of these people use pine, and they need pine to *automatically* say "hey, this mail I received has a x-reply-to header, so if the user ever replys to this message, I should send the reply to the address in the x-reply-to header *instead* of the one in the from header". Does that make sense? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Craig Ruefenacht ruefenac@cs.utah.edu University of Utah - College of Engineering - Salt Lake City Utah World Wide Web: http://www.cs.utah.edu/~ruefenac ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Craig Ruefenacht ruefenac@cs.utah.edu University of Utah - College of Engineering - Salt Lake City Utah World Wide Web: http://www.cs.utah.edu/~ruefenac ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 22:42:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10843; Wed, 21 Aug 96 22:42:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id WAA10992 for pine-info-out; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 22:38:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id WAA10987 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 22:38:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utSRL-00038YC; Wed, 21 Aug 96 22:36 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rutoskey@csc.umd.edu (Rutoskey - John) Subject: IS MY INBOX GONE FOR GOOD? PLEASE HELP! Date: 21 Aug 1996 14:50:36 GMT Message-Id: <4vf7ns$86g@hecate.umd.edu> While away on vacation, someone sent me some extensive e-mail consisting of many letters. I had not been regularly maintaining my inbox for a while, and of course it got very full. One day, my inbox crashed, giving me the message "core dumped", and locking me out of pine until I went off line and back in again. Well, when I did, my entire inbox had been eliminated, showing me an empty inbox with zero messages. In my Unix home directory, it shows that there is a large file called "core" now, which I downloaded, hoping that it was the inbox's dumped text. I was wrong, however, it looks like a bunch of garbage, completely indecipherable. I did save this onto my hard disc, however, but I deleted it from my UNIX account. My question is: Does my old inbox exist anywhere in UNIX-land? I find it hard to believe that UNIX would have dumped it, being it is so intelligent, I would think it just put it somewhere. I wouldn't care so much, except that I really needed the info, and casnnot get it again. Any help would be appreciated. John From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 23:45:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01191; Wed, 21 Aug 96 23:45:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id XAA11718 for pine-info-out; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 23:41:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (giasdl01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id XAA11713 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 1996 23:41:25 -0700 Received: by giasdl01.vsnl.net.in; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/23Apr96-0134AM) id AA26687; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 12:12:33 +0500 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 12:12:33 +0500 (GMT+0500) From: Saw Pipes Ltd To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Enquiry about sending a WODSTAR/MS WORD file Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Sir, I want to know how to attach a WS/MSWORD file to a message. Kindly help. Thanking you, Praveen (sawpipes@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in). From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 00:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16660; Thu, 22 Aug 96 00:31:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id AAA15417 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 00:27:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id AAA15412 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 00:26:48 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 22 Aug 96 15:31:31 +0800 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 15:24:00 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Saw Pipes Ltd Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Enquiry about sending a WODSTAR/MS WORD file In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Saw Pipes Ltd wrote: > I want to know how to attach a WS/MSWORD file to a > message. Kindly help. Your question is very vague. The simplistic answer is: 1. Put your cursor on the header line which reads "Attchmnt:" 2. Type the name of the file you wish to attach. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 00:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16773; Thu, 22 Aug 96 00:42:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id AAA15575 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 00:38:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id AAA15570 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 00:38:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utUHj-00038YC; Thu, 22 Aug 96 00:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Atul@psg.com, Kulkarni@psg.com Subject: Size problem with pine Date: 22 Aug 1996 00:08:08 -0700 Message-Id: <4vh10o$cmn@lex.zippo.com> References: <4v57fd$adp@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> I am using 3.93 version of pine. I have noticed that it can't handle the mails, while sending, of bigger size. I have tried to send the mails which are more than 200 lines. It can't send them. The message which it displays is as follows sending mail 30% complete (something like this) The if I see the process status, yes I use unix machine (IRIX), it shows two sendmail processes. The pine does not complet the sendind, fcc operation. If I kill the two sendmail processes, the SMTP connection gets lost. Has anybody witnessed this problem? Any solutions. Regards, Atul From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 01:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16897; Thu, 22 Aug 96 01:15:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA12891 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 01:11:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha.ntu.ac.sg (alpha.ntu.ac.sg [155.69.1.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id BAA12886 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 01:11:17 -0700 Received: from ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg by ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg (PMDF V5.0-6 #7636) id <01I8KYIWIXKWAUUG2L@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 15:50:38 +0800 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 15:50:38 +0800 From: bg7221606@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg Subject: Lost overseas friend account To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hello, I have used pine to communicate with people from overseas, and I was able to make a lot of friends through pine. But currently I lost two of my friends' account, and was unable to reach them. I really want to get back their account, at least I got their name and address. I really hope that you can help me, please. I do not want to lose any friends. Pine really acts as a communication medium for people around the world to get to know each other better. Hope to receive from you soon. Bye From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 01:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17052; Thu, 22 Aug 96 01:17:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA12927 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 01:14:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id BAA12922 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 01:14:24 -0700 Received: from slave.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 22 Aug 1996 09:09:01 +0100 Received: from localhost by slave.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA23649; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 09:10:58 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 09:10:57 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Rutoskey - John Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IS MY INBOX GONE FOR GOOD? PLEASE HELP! In-Reply-To: <4vf7ns$86g@hecate.umd.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 21 Aug 1996, Rutoskey - John wrote: > While away on vacation, someone sent me some extensive e-mail consisting > of many letters. I had not been regularly maintaining my inbox for a > while, and of course it got very full. > > One day, my inbox crashed, giving me the message "core dumped", Firstly a little bit of terminology... your INBOX is just a file containing e-mail messages; it can't crash - only programs can crash. In actual fact what will have happened is that the mail program you were using to look at your INBOX (I presume this was Pine as you are asking about this on a Pine discussion group? You don't say!) crashed. > and > locking me out of pine until I went off line and back in again. Well, > when I did, my entire inbox had been eliminated, showing me an empty > inbox with zero messages. In my Unix home directory, it shows that there > is a large file called "core" now, which I downloaded, hoping that it was > the inbox's dumped text. I was wrong, however, it looks like a bunch of > garbage, completely indecipherable. I did save this onto my hard disc, > however, but I deleted it from my UNIX account. On UNIX systems a crashing program often dumps a copy of the memory it has in use in to a file called "core". This may be of help to a programmer familiar with such files and debugging tools in tracing the problem that occured. However the core file doesn't contain your messages. > My question is: Does my old inbox exist anywhere in UNIX-land? I find it > hard to believe that UNIX would have dumped it, being it is so > intelligent, I would think it just put it somewhere. I wouldn't care so > much, except that I really needed the info, and casnnot get it again. You should ask your local Help Desk for assistance. They will be familiar with how the mail programs are configured on the computers you use. In particular some sites move mail from the delivery area to other folders. The Help Desk staff should also have the ability to rummage around on your computers in likely places for your lost INBOX file and, if the worst comes to the worst, possibly be able to restore it from a backup tape. None of us at sites elsewhere around the world can do this for you. > Any help would be appreciated. Could I please put in a plea at this point aimed at others with problems like this? ... Very often your local Help Desk staff are in a *far* better position to help you than a collection of random people around the world who know nothing about your site, let alone the computer systems in use there. Please consider asking your local support staff first about problems using Pine. This list is far more usefully used discussing bugs, new feature requests and suggestions, etc. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 01:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16972; Thu, 22 Aug 96 01:28:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA13031 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 01:25:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id BAA13026 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 01:25:09 -0700 Received: from slave.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 22 Aug 1996 09:22:51 +0100 Received: from localhost by slave.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA23660; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 09:24:52 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 09:24:51 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Craig R. Ruefenacht" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: X-Reply-To in Pine? In-Reply-To: <4vglqc$nv0@magus.cs.utah.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ummmm..... Pine certainly recognises and acts upon the "Reply-To:" header field contained in the headers of messages you receive. This is certainly true of Pine 3.91 and later and, going off memory, earlier versions too. Are you sure the header is spelled exactly like that (Reply-To) as against something like "ReplyTo"? If it is OK then perhaps you could send out your question again with a copy of such a message attached in case anyone gets a Flash of Inspiration? As for X-Reply-To... As I understand/remember things message headers fall into two classes: official and unofficial. All unofficial header names should begin with "X-", wheras official header names shouldn't. Reply-To is most definitely an official header, and so should not be used as "X-Reply-To" for fear that most mailers won't recognise it. Perhaps a quiet word with the person(s) sending out messages with the header? Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 22 Aug 1996, Craig R. Ruefenacht wrote: > Paul O Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) wrote: > : On 21 Aug 1996, Craig R. Ruefenacht wrote: > > : > Does anyone know if Pine supports the X-Reply-To (or Reply-To) > : > header? I am trying to get Pine to use this header for the > : > address to reply to when I reply to mail, [...] > > : You can add the Reply-To: header yourself. From the Pine main > : menu, just go into Setup and Config. Scroll down to customized-hdrs: > : and add the header you want. That should do it. > > : Paul > > That doesn't solve my problem.......I want to know how to get > pine to *recognize* the Reply-to header when pine *receives* mail > with this header. I am not trying to add headers to a message I > compose in pine. I am trying to get pine to recognize the header > on incomming mail. > > Lets say that someone from Germany sends me mail, and has a > X-Reply-To: header in his mail. So the headers look like this: > > From: johndoe@germany.free > X-Reply-To: janedoe@japan.com > > Now, I go read the message in pine. Cool. Now I want to reply. So, > I hit the "R" key for reply, and whala, the mail is addressed to > go to johndoe@germany.free. Humm... johndoe put a x-reply-to > header in his mail so that MY mailer would send any replies to > janedoe@japan.com, NOT johndoe@germany.free. I can't get > pine to recognize that when mail IT RECEIVES has x-reply-to > headers, to USE that header for the reply address INSTEAD > of the "from" header. > > I've tried it with X-Reply-To: and Reply-To, and neither worked. > > Sure I could do it manually, but this is not for me. I use zmail. > But I am writing a tracking system for mail, and all the mailers I > have tested understand the Reply-To: header stuff, but Pine doesn't. > Reason why I need it to work is because people will be getting mail > from my tracking system, with x-reply-to headers in the mail. Some of > these people use pine, and they need pine to *automatically* say "hey, > this mail I received has a x-reply-to header, so if the user ever > replys to this message, I should send the reply to the address in the > x-reply-to header *instead* of the one in the from header". > > Does that make sense? > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Craig Ruefenacht ruefenac@cs.utah.edu > University of Utah - College of Engineering - Salt Lake City Utah > World Wide Web: http://www.cs.utah.edu/~ruefenac > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Craig Ruefenacht ruefenac@cs.utah.edu > University of Utah - College of Engineering - Salt Lake City Utah > World Wide Web: http://www.cs.utah.edu/~ruefenac > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 01:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09312; Thu, 22 Aug 96 01:32:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA13076 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 01:28:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id BAA13071 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 01:28:42 -0700 Received: from slave.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 22 Aug 1996 09:26:17 +0100 Received: from localhost by slave.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA23663; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 09:28:18 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 09:28:17 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Timothy J. Luoma" Cc: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to get a list of the newsgroups? In-Reply-To: <199608212341.TAA09517@nerc.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Bad news, I'm I'm afraid... Pine doesn't (yet?) offer a way of finding out about new newsgroups that have been created. (Pine Team: It would be Truly Wonderful if it did one day ... Hint, Hint! :-) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) on Thu, 22 Aug 96 wrote: > > > Pine has an "email" feature. > > Send an "email" to postmaster@nerc.com ! > > Ask him about those new newsgroups. > > And for a copy of the netiquette. > > > Oh really? Thank you very much. > > 'tin' and most other newsreaders have a feature which will prompt > you about the new newsgroups, and ask if you want to subscribe to > them. > > If pine has a way to do this, I haven't been able to find it. > > Having to manually subscribe to newsgroups isn't exactly what I > hope for in a newsreader.... > > TjL > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Timothy J. Luoma http://www.nerc.com/~luomat > My USENET feed is slow and not very reliable > NeXT info: EMAIL with SUBJECT: send-ascii info > PGP 2.6.2 key: email with SUBJECT: send-ascii pgpkey > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 02:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17663; Thu, 22 Aug 96 02:28:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id CAA13760 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 02:24:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id CAA13755 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 02:24:20 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 22 Aug 96 17:29:01 +0800 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 17:21:28 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: bg7221606@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Lost overseas friend account In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 22 Aug 1996 bg7221606@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg wrote: > I have used pine to communicate with people from overseas, and > I was able to make a lot of friends through pine. But currently I lost > two of my friends' account, and was unable to reach them. I really want > to get back their account, at least I got their name and address. I really > hope that you can help me, please. I do not want to lose any friends. Pine > really acts as a communication medium for people around the world to get > to know each other better. Hope to receive from you soon. Bye Glad to hear you have their names and addresses.... Suggest you sit down, write a letter, put it in the postbox tell them your email address and have them email you. ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 04:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07570; Thu, 22 Aug 96 04:07:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id EAA14923 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 04:02:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id EAA14918 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 04:02:21 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59:24/EUnetD-2.5.4.c) via EUnet id NAA10339; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 13:02:07 +0200 Message-Id: <199608221059.MAA13465@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id MAA13465; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 12:59:38 +0200 From: Rudolf Kompf Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 11:50:40 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: kompf@m_post.ife-le.de To: Tim Mooney Cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: Formated printing from Pine In-Reply-To: <4vcl3a$no7@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 20 Aug 1996, Tim Mooney wrote: -> In article , Nancy McGough wrote: -> -> > I'm also curious to hear about things other people do to get nice -> > looking printed messages. -> -> I generally use `mailp' (part of mpdist). -> -> Tim -> -- -> Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu -> Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) -> Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) -> North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 -> I'm using a2ps (by miguel@imag.fr) to produce postscript. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 05:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09963; Thu, 22 Aug 96 05:55:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id FAA19524 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 05:49:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com (dekalb.vf.mmc.com [192.35.35.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id FAA19519 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 05:49:18 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.lmco.com ([166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA25484; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 08:49:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.lmco.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA26953; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 08:49:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (4.1/LMCO SunOS Server Nondomain-1.1) id AA04688; Thu, 22 Aug 96 08:47:44 EDT Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 08:47:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman X-Sender: sugarman@mmpcs1 Reply-To: Don Sugarman To: "Edward M. DeSear" <"ordog 5"@tribeca.ios.com> Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Saving Attachment to C Drive In-Reply-To: <4veuj4$lt0@news.ios.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Edward M. DeSear wrote: > How do I move an attachment (a .jpg file) from my UNIX shell to a > directory on my c drive? > > Are you connected by modem or LAN? Do you have ftp or can you attach your server as a disk drive? etc. etc. In echoing the suggestion in the post from Mike Brudenell earlier today, this is a perfect example of the type of problem you that should be addressed to the local system administrator or support team. Not because people on the list don't want to help, but because all the information needed to solve the problem is not available to us. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 06:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19611; Thu, 22 Aug 96 06:36:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id GAA20033 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 06:31:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id GAA20028 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 06:31:38 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59:24/EUnetD-2.5.4.c) via EUnet id PAA00761; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 15:31:28 +0200 Message-Id: <199608221328.PAA15503@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id PAA15503; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 15:28:54 +0200 From: Rudolf Kompf Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 14:00:34 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: kompf@m_post.ife-le.de To: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Send Netiquette Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Who would me send a new version of 'Netiquette'? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 07:56:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20701; Thu, 22 Aug 96 07:56:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id HAA21161 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 07:49:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.transport.com (transport.com [204.119.17.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id HAA21154 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 07:49:49 -0700 Received: (from karimi@localhost) by mail.transport.com (8.7.3/8.6.10) id HAA06462; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 07:49:47 -0700 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 07:49:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Karimi Igeria To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 08:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21154; Thu, 22 Aug 96 08:11:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id IAA21482 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 08:07:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id IAA21474 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 08:07:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utbDT-00038UC; Thu, 22 Aug 96 07:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: Re: distribution lists Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 14:24:56 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4uh1ri$la4@samba.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, R wrote: | |Or maybe you can send a mail to yourself, and Bcc to everyone. this will not work for what you are looking for. What will happen with this is that you will not see the list in the Bcc field when you receive the message but anyone and everyone in the Bcc filed will see anyone and everyone in the Bcc field. If you are not using version 3.93 or + then what you have to do is but the DL in the Bcc field but ALSO you have to enter in a :; in the To field. If you do have version 3.93+ the use the Lcc field. Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 09:25:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22813; Thu, 22 Aug 96 09:25:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA23583 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 09:21:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA23578 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 09:21:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utcQb-00038UC; Thu, 22 Aug 96 09:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joseph McWilliams Subject: Pico problems with Ctrl codes and modem Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 14:59:36 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have acquired and compiled pine 3.95 and pico 2.9 on a Unix box (NeXTStep on a Pentium). In a console terminal window pico works as it should, but when I dialup this machine via a modem, pico eats commands. It will not recognize and Ctrl-codes except Ctrl-x (fortunately). Pico also also translates a as a carriage return without a new line. I have no trouble editing in pine whether at the console or over a telephone line, the problem only accurs with pico via the modem on my desk. If I dial the university's modems and connect to the workstation via the mainframe, pico behaves as it should. I've tried a number of modem settings to no avail. Is there perhaps a compile option that I should change? Joe McWilliams From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 09:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23410; Thu, 22 Aug 96 09:32:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA20006 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 09:24:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.kitsap.lib.wa.us (mail.kitsap.lib.wa.us [198.187.135.250]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id JAA20001 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 09:24:41 -0700 Received: from linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us (linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us [198.187.135.22]) by mail.kitsap.lib.wa.us (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA12394; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 09:26:38 -0700 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 09:24:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Schuyler To: Sowmya Sekar Cc: Local Support , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Aug 1996, Sowmya Sekar wrote: > I can't send mail to many boxes in Australia, US etc.as below > 1) vegc03a@prodigy.com > 2) vasujay@melbpc.org.au > 3) rajagor@syvax.sy.dupont.com > Pl. try to resolve this problem. my main idea of getting internet > connection is to mail these people regularly. I'm sorry, we would resolve this problem if it were our problem. You don't give us much information to go on here. If you get a bounce message, what does it say? Does it say "no such user" or "no such host" or "host unreachable"? Basically there are only two things that can cause a message to bounce: 1) You have the address wrong (no such host or no such user) 2) The host is down or the link is down (host unreachable) 3) LinkNet is somehow not sending out your message. Number three is not the case. That leaves the other two. If you want to forward a bounce message to support, we'd be glad to take a look at it. o o o o o o o . . . _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | Kitsap Regional | | LinkNet Support | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | Library | | 'least we try! | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|____________________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ============================================================================ Support: (360) 405-9131 Fax:(360) 405-9128 support@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us Michael Schuyler: Voice:(360) 405-9139 michael@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 10:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09155; Thu, 22 Aug 96 10:10:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id KAA21091 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 10:06:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id KAA21086 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 10:06:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utd9e-00038VC; Thu, 22 Aug 96 10:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: usaysir@darkknight.net Subject: vacation? Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 11:08:49 -0400 Message-Id: <321C7801.F7F@darkknight.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i know that many mail programs allow the posting of a file called .vacation which sends auto responce to the sender the moment the email arrives .... is there the a way to get the same effect with pine? i am running linux 1.3.99 -- :=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=: John Knight (770) 491-2042 - Voice O.K. Informations Services (770) 902-8040 - Beeper 2175 Northlake Parkway Suite 17 knight@lambda.net Tucker, GA 30084 usaysir@darkknight.net :=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=: "A little guy can whup a big guy every time ... as long as he is in the right and keeps on comin'" ___original motto of the Texas Rangers :=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 10:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08412; Thu, 22 Aug 96 10:44:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id KAA21822 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 10:39:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id KAA21817 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 10:39:52 -0700 Received: from localhost (skramer@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.07/8.7.3+UW96.07) with SMTP id KAA14730 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 10:39:51 -0700 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 10:39:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Kramer Reply-To: Stefan Kramer To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Frequently Asked Questions about Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: "University of Washington, Computing and Communications" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The previous answer to the FAQ "Can Pine be used with a POP server?" was indeed deceiving. While Pine does not (yet) support the POP offline email model, it is (still) possible to access, with some caveats, a POP3 server with Pine (for Unix, not with PC-Pine). That FAQ has been revised accordingly, as the currently last item at http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/FAQs.html and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/FAQs.txt ------------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu University of Washington Computing & Communications ------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Jason Englander wrote: # On Tue, 20 Aug 1996, Richard G. Roberto wrote: # # > > Can Pine be used with a POP server? # > > # > > No. Neither Pine nor PC-Pine currently (as of version 3.95) support # > > POP's offline mail model (wherein pending mail is pulled from the mail # > > server to the local machine and deleted from the server). However, it # > > is likely that this model will be supported, with a choice of either # > > IMAP or POP as the access protocol, in a future release. # > > # > # > What? I used to be able to put /pop3 after a host name # > {host/pop3} and use pop3 to download mail (pine3.91 on # > linux). I haven't used this in a while, though. Why has # > this been removed? It worked fine for me then. Oh well. # # It hasn't been removed. I'm running Pine 3.95 under Linux and I've got a # folder in my incoming folders section exactly like you just mentioned. # # Jason From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 14:58:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18319; Thu, 22 Aug 96 14:58:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id OAA01937 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 14:54:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id OAA01932 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 14:54:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uthfM-00038BC; Thu, 22 Aug 96 14:51 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dpinkney@lucid.tiac.net (Dave Pinkney) Subject: Disable inverse video? Date: 22 Aug 1996 12:58:40 -0400 Message-Id: Is it possible to disable the inverse-video display in pine? On my unix system (and with my preferred font), inverse-video is completely unreadable! I currently use elm and it lets me use an alternate display (-->), any such feature in pine? thanks, Dave Pinkney From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 15:31:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30530; Thu, 22 Aug 96 15:31:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id PAA28833 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 15:29:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id PAA28828 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 15:29:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utiFQ-00038BC; Thu, 22 Aug 96 15:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mika Siiskonen Subject: Wellcome to 3.95 Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 13:28:26 -0700 Message-Id: <32177CEA.12D6@khro.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, i have installed Pine version 3.95 to my Sparc Classic with Solaris 2.4 in it. Every time i open pine i get the Wellcome screen: Do you want to receive Getting most of pine via email. Screen tells that it will appear just once but it opens every time. When i answer No to receive question, pine tells Incomplete mail domain khrsun and then the return address you send may be incorrect ? What do this all mean ? Do i have to do some changes to Solaris conf files ? Mika From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 16:21:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31568; Thu, 22 Aug 96 16:21:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA29943 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 16:14:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA29938 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 16:14:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utig2-00038BC; Thu, 22 Aug 96 15:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: My tree ain't green!!! Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 15:09:36 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: This is a bug that was introduced with some last minute changes for Win95 support :( It will be fixed in Pine 4.00, but I'm not sure if we'll take the time to release a fix before then..... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 16:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31401; Thu, 22 Aug 96 16:23:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA29909 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 16:13:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sunrise.ccs.yorku.ca (sunrise.ccs.yorku.ca [130.63.236.87]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA29904 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 16:13:11 -0700 Received: from localhost (nmorra@localhost) by sunrise.ccs.yorku.ca (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id TAA08459 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 19:13:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: sunrise.ccs.yorku.ca: nmorra owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 19:13:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Norman Morra X-Sender: nmorra@sunrise.ccs.yorku.ca To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: No messages in or out. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Pine: Your system has been great but I can't seem to get through to other people via e-mail. Is there some sort of virus in pine or what? What causes this shutdown? Thanks, Norman. Norman Morra Department of Sociology York University nmorra@yorku.ca From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 16:26:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31227; Thu, 22 Aug 96 16:26:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA03991 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 16:19:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA03986 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 16:19:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utizv-00038BC; Thu, 22 Aug 96 16:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Bruce Pratt" Subject: PCPine configuration question Date: 22 Aug 1996 21:37:06 GMT Message-Id: <01bb9072$6b9c56a0$787dad86@cccmgr.cuc.claremont.edu> I have just tried to use PC Pine 3.95 and have a simple question. We are using HPUX 10.01 as the imap server. How can I configure the inbox-path and folder-collections so that they change for different user ids? To get them to work I used inbox-path={tiger.cuc.claremont.edu}/var/mail/brucep folder-collections={tiger.cuc.claremont.edu}/users/brucep/mail/[] Of course this will not work if you change the user id when you log in as anything other than brucep. Bruce Pratt Manager Administrative Computing Claremont University Center bruce_pratt@cucmail.claremont.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 16:41:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32005; Thu, 22 Aug 96 16:41:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA04235 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 16:31:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA04230 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 16:31:32 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 23 Aug 96 07:36:21 +0800 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 07:28:46 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Dave Pinkney Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Disable inverse video? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 22 Aug 1996, Dave Pinkney wrote: > Is it possible to disable the inverse-video display in pine? On my > unix system (and with my preferred font), inverse-video is completely > unreadable! I currently use elm and it lets me use an alternate > display (-->), any such feature in pine? > thanks, Not entirely.....but mabye: FEATURE: assume-slow-link This feature affects Pine's display routines. If set, the normal inverse-video cursor (used to highlight the current item in a list) will be replaced by an "arrow" cursor and other screen update optimizations for low-speed links (e.g. 2400 bps dialup connections) will be activated. Is helpful? ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 16:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32306; Thu, 22 Aug 96 16:56:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA00694 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 16:49:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA00689 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 16:49:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utjQL-00038BC; Thu, 22 Aug 96 16:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edpaolo@intac.com (Ed Paolo) Subject: Best jpg/gif image-viewer for Pine 3.1 under Unix Date: 22 Aug 1996 23:06:51 GMT Message-Id: <4vip6b$atf@uucp.intac.com> I run Pine 3.1 under a dial-up to a Unix Shell account and was wondering the best image-viewer for gif/jpg files? TIA -- EdDataFix edpaolo@nile.intac.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 17:09:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32490; Thu, 22 Aug 96 17:09:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA04854 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 16:59:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA04847 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 16:59:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utjbn-00038BC; Thu, 22 Aug 96 16:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Johan Holmberg Subject: Re: 3.95: Still no message editing? Date: 19 Aug 1996 18:31:52 +0200 Message-Id: <6391bbs5c7.fsf@upp.promotor.telia.se> References: Lynda Milne writes: > > In UNIX mail and mailx, it is possible to engage an editor to edit > RECEIVED messages. This is very helpful for cutting down on the > volume of saved messages. Unwanted lines and lines full of headers > can be quickly deleted, along with abundant, redundant inclusions of > quoted messages. You read, you edit, you save. Bingo: megabytes > of unwanted fat removed. > I would also like such a feature very much. Especially an ability to remove attachments from received messages. I often have messages I want to keep for the text in the message, but "have to" delete because it contains a huge attachment that I'm not interested in any more. /johan holmberg -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Johan Holmberg Email: holmberg@upp.promotor.telia.se Telia Promotor AB Phone: +46 18 18 94 55 Box 1218 Mobile: +46 70 528 94 55 751 42 Uppsala, SWEDEN Fax: +46 18 18 94 99 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 18:36:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00139; Thu, 22 Aug 96 18:36:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id SAA02489 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 18:34:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id SAA02484 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 18:34:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utl8b-00038TC; Thu, 22 Aug 96 18:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: What does the plus sign mean? Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:21:52 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4vik5f$55g@panix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4vik5f$55g@panix.com> On 22 Aug 1996, David Staschover wrote: > Can someone tell me what the + means to the left of some message indexes? It means that the message was addressed to you personally, rather than being part of a general mailing list distribution or some other non-specific distribution. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 19:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00945; Thu, 22 Aug 96 19:26:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA07176 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 19:24:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from admin.aurora.edu (admin.aurora.edu [192.203.224.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA07171 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 19:24:50 -0700 Received: by admin.aurora.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA12999; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 21:29:32 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 21:29:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Lowe To: Pine Information List Subject: Reading BinHex4.0 Messages Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Today, I received a BinHex 4.0 message. The $64 question is how to read the attachment. My platform is Digital Ultrix and Pine 3.95. Do I have to make an entry in /etc/mailcap? Thanks in advance. -- Steve Lowe Aurora University slowe@admin.aurora.edu 630 844 5290 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21067; Thu, 22 Aug 96 20:17:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA07844 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:14:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id UAA07839 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:14:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utmeD-00038BC; Thu, 22 Aug 96 20:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: vacation? Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:20:10 -0400 Message-Id: References: <321C7801.F7F@darkknight.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <321C7801.F7F@darkknight.net> On Thu, 22 Aug 1996 usaysir@darkknight.net wrote: > i know that many mail programs allow the posting of a file called > .vacation which sends auto responce to the sender the moment the email > arrives .... > > is there the a way to get the same effect with pine? i am running linux > 1.3.99 Most Un*x-like systems have a program called, strangely enough, 'vacation', which is actually independent of any particular mail program you use. When you run vacation, it will create a .vacation.msg file for you. See if it is on your system. As such, it has nothing to do with Pine. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01828; Thu, 22 Aug 96 20:46:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA04079 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:44:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id UAA04074 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:44:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utn6d-00038BC; Thu, 22 Aug 96 20:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mandeep singh Subject: filter usage?? Date: 23 Aug 1996 02:32:15 GMT Message-Id: <4vj57f$j8g@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gurus: i am new fan of pine and i have my first question. how do i use the filters? can someone explain how do i block msg from a particular user? THANKS IN ADVANCE, -mandeep singh From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01810; Thu, 22 Aug 96 20:54:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA08270 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:53:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vcn.bc.ca (opus.vcn.bc.ca [207.102.64.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id UAA08265 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:53:10 -0700 Received: (from fwp@localhost) by vcn.bc.ca (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA03159; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:52:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Franklin Wayne Poley Subject: Automated List Server for Pine. To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Do you think it would be possible to write a sub-program for Pine which would read incoming mail, recognize Distribution List names from the subject line and automatically mail out to all on those Dist. lists? I have been told Eudora Pro and Pegasus have similar features. -W. Poley. ***CULTURE X*** *** Can a group of international discussants come up with a set of 'solutions for a small planet', focusing first on the city-built-anew as the unit of culture worldwide? To join this discussion send a subscribe message to moderator at *** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 21:01:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01961; Thu, 22 Aug 96 21:01:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA08367 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:59:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id UAA08362 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:59:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utnO6-00038BC; Thu, 22 Aug 96 20:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Camillo S{rs Subject: Re: MIME encoding and attachment function as shell command Date: 22 Aug 1996 16:02:27 +0300 Message-Id: References: <4vcq49$d6q@lex.zippo.com> apg@ipl.co.uk writes: > I am in need of a command I can include in a shell script, which will > MIME encode several binaries, attach them to a mail item and send to a > specified address. > > a) where I might find a program already written to do this job, or Take mimencode, mail and your favourite shell. Write a script that somewhat resembles the following pseudocode: foreach i ( files ) do mimencode $i > $i.mime od mail receiver < *.mime This, of course, does not work as such, but I think you get the point. Camillo -- Camillo Särs ** Aim for the impossible and you Faculty of Computer Science ** will achieve the improbable. Helsinki University of Technology ** http://www.iki.fi/ged G=Camillo S=Sars O=hut ADMD=fumail C=fi ** PGP public key available From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 21:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02228; Thu, 22 Aug 96 21:28:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA08689 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 21:25:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from frodo.student.gu.edu.au (frodo.student.gu.edu.au [132.234.60.250]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id VAA08684 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 21:25:29 -0700 Received: (from s415855@localhost) by frodo.student.gu.edu.au (8.7.1/8.7.3) id OAA23091; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 14:25:27 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 14:25:27 +1000 (EST) From: "ELLINE M. MODINA" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! I'm a student at Griffith University (Australia) and I was wondering if you can help me locate an old friend of mine. I have been sending e-mail messages to my friend who recently transferred to Texas through this address : fvillamayor@msc.com However, the postmaster@msc.com keep on sending me messages that say "bad address-user unknown." If you can locate him kindly send him my e-mail address : s415855@student.gu.edu.au Thank you very much for your help and thanks for trying!!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 22:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03324; Thu, 22 Aug 96 22:59:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id WAA05864 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 22:56:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id WAA05859 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 22:56:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utpAh-00038BC; Thu, 22 Aug 96 22:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu (Annelise Anderson) Subject: Re: How to Export Text? Date: 23 Aug 1996 04:24:05 GMT Message-Id: <4vjbp5$4mq@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <4tup1e$5s6@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <4u0tsc$66v@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Adam Vardy (abe0084@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca) wrote: : Annelise Anderson (andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) wrote: : : I'd like to be able to export selected text from a message instead : : of an entire message--and also append text to a file in a later : : export. Is this possible....or just too much for little pine? : I suppose you can just E - Export the message, and then edit it in an : editor when you exit Pine. : That is not too difficult. : - Adam I've discovered that I can use vi as an alternative editor in pine, using it when I wish. With vi running I can export specific lines of text to a file; I can also run a command and have the output of that command inserted into the text. The command for the first is :x,yw filename (where x and y are line numbers). The command for the second is :r !cmd (where cmd is the command you want to run and whose output you want in the text). Annelise From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 00:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01812; Fri, 23 Aug 96 00:01:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id XAA10536 for pine-info-out; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 23:57:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from yarra.vicnet.net.au (yarra.vicnet.net.au [203.10.72.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id XAA10531 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 1996 23:57:32 -0700 Received: from rvib2.rvib.org.au (rvib2.rvib.org.au [203.3.138.1]) by yarra.vicnet.net.au (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id QAA22860 for <@yarra.vicnet.net.au:pine-info@cac.washington.edu>; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 16:56:34 +1000 Received: from rvib2.rvib.org.au by rvib2.rvib.org.au id aa12179; 23 Aug 96 16:52 AEST Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 16:52:00 +1000 (AEST) From: Les Wallis To: Pine Info Group Subject: Forwarding from Pine to Novell Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII One of our sites has a Novell Server networked with an adjacent Unix server. Users on the server can log in to a session on the Unix server. The Novell Server has WFWGPO but they ask me "what do we have to put in .forward to have mail redirected to MSmail. Likewise is it easy to send mail directly from MSmail to the world." The Unix server is connected via uucp to another server with Internet access, and users of Pine on that server can send and receive mail via the uucp link. But how to get the mail from/to MSmail? As I am mostly a Unix person and not much a DOS/Windows/Novell person I have not got a clue. Can someone out there help, even if to say there is not enough information to give an answer? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 02:45:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04940; Fri, 23 Aug 96 02:45:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id CAA12424 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 02:40:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id CAA12419 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 02:40:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utshz-00038BC; Fri, 23 Aug 96 02:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Horst.Hanak iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii" Subject: Pine 3.95 patches for DG/UX (d-g) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 10:00:27 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To getting Pine 3.95 compiled on DG/UX 5.4R3.10 and R4.11MU02 I made this changes on Files: pine/makefile.d-g imap/ANSI/c-client/os_d-g.c imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile ======== Changes DG/UX(m88k) Rev. 5.4R3.10 and R4.11MU02 ============= *** pine/makefile.d-g.orig Fri Mar 15 08:14:55 1996 --- pine/makefile.d-g Tue Aug 13 14:11:09 1996 *************** *** 54,60 **** IMAPDIR= ../c-client PICODIR= ../pico ! STDLIBES= -lnsl_s -lgen -lcurses LOCLIBES= $(PICODIR)/libpico.a $(IMAPDIR)/c-client.a LIBES= $(EXTRALIBES) $(LOCLIBES) $(STDLIBES) --- 54,61 ---- IMAPDIR= ../c-client PICODIR= ../pico ! STDLIBES= -l`case \`uname -r\` in 5.4R3.10) echo "nsl_s"\ ! ;; R4.11MU02) echo "nsl";;esac` -lgen -lcurses LOCLIBES= $(PICODIR)/libpico.a $(IMAPDIR)/c-client.a LIBES= $(EXTRALIBES) $(LOCLIBES) $(STDLIBES) *** imap/ANSI/c-client/os_d-g.c.orig Fri Jun 21 23:24:42 1996 --- imap/ANSI/c-client/os_d-g.c Tue Aug 13 12:35:29 1996 *************** *** 35,42 **** #include "tcp_unix.h" /* must be before osdep includes tcp.h */ #include "mail.h" ! #define _USEC_UTIME_FLAVOR /* break it for compatibility with ! #include the incompatible past */ #include "osdep.h" #include #include --- 35,42 ---- #include "tcp_unix.h" /* must be before osdep includes tcp.h */ #include "mail.h" ! #define _USEC_UTIME_FLAVOR /* break it for compatibility with */ ! #include /* the incompatible past */ #include "osdep.h" #include #include *** pine/osdep/os-sv4.h.orig Wed Jun 5 19:13:42 1996 --- pine/osdep/os-sv4.h Tue Aug 13 12:38:22 1996 *************** *** 232,237 **** --- 232,242 ---- + /*-------- For DG/UX systems, define setpgrp to be setpgrp2 -------------*/ + #ifdef DGUX + #define setpgrp setpgrp2 + #endif + /*----------------- locale.h -------------------------------------------*/ /* #include /* To make matching and sorting work right */ *** imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile.orig Fri Jun 21 23:25:45 1996 --- imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile Tue Aug 13 15:43:35 1996 *************** *** 128,138 **** d-g: # Data General $(MAKE) mtest OS=$@ EXTRADRIVERS="$(EXTRADRIVERS)" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto MAILSPOOL=/var/mail \ ACTIVEFILE=/local/news/active NEWSSPOOL=/var/spool/news \ RSH=remsh RSHPATH=/usr/bin/remsh \ ! CFLAGS="-g -DNFSKLUDGE $(EXTRACFLAGS)" RANLIB=true dpx: # Bull DPX/2 $(MAKE) mtest OS=$@ EXTRADRIVERS="$(EXTRADRIVERS)" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto MAILSPOOL=/usr/spool/mail \ ACTIVEFILE=/usr/lib/news/active NEWSSPOOL=/usr/spool/news \ --- 128,139 ---- d-g: # Data General $(MAKE) mtest OS=$@ EXTRADRIVERS="$(EXTRADRIVERS)" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto MAILSPOOL=/var/mail \ ACTIVEFILE=/local/news/active NEWSSPOOL=/var/spool/news \ RSH=remsh RSHPATH=/usr/bin/remsh \ ! CFLAGS="-g `case \`uname -r\` in 5.4R3.10) echo '-Dconst= '\ ! ;;esac` -DNFSKLUDGE $(EXTRACFLAGS)" RANLIB=true dpx: # Bull DPX/2 $(MAKE) mtest OS=$@ EXTRADRIVERS="$(EXTRADRIVERS)" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto MAILSPOOL=/usr/spool/mail \ ACTIVEFILE=/usr/lib/news/active NEWSSPOOL=/usr/spool/news \ ====== End of Changes DG/UX(m88k) Rev. 5.4R3.10 and R4.11MU02 ============= You can also get this patchfile ' on FTP-Server 'infpav3.fzk.de': ftp://infpav3.fzk.de/pine/pine3.95.diff.dgux.m88k Horst Hanak __________________________________________________________________ Forschungszentrum Karlsruhe E-Mail: Horst.Hanak@infp.FZK.DE Institut:INFP Horst Hanak ------------------------- Postfach 3640 tel: +49 7247/82-3353 D 76021 Karlsruhe / Germany fax: +49 7247/82-4624 __________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 05:08:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04140; Fri, 23 Aug 96 05:08:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id FAA10066 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 05:05:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id FAA10059 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 05:05:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utuxb-00038TC; Fri, 23 Aug 96 05:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Alberto Cardenas Subject: How can I change FROM: Field? Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 13:20:05 +0000 Message-Id: <32186A05.2781@ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm using pine 3.91 for unix. How can I change the address in the FROM: field? I need that the FROM: field change my default address (alberto@risc) to my internet address (acarden@risc) Thanks in advance for your help Alberto Cardenas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 05:09:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05714; Fri, 23 Aug 96 05:09:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id FAA14161 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 05:05:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id FAA14156 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 05:05:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utuxQ-00038BC; Fri, 23 Aug 96 05:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@somerville.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Formated printing from Pine Date: 19 Aug 1996 17:42:19 GMT Message-Id: References: <321774B2.2925@macom.co.il> nancym@ii.com (Nancy McGough): > "Naor Mark (pcnaor)" writes: > >Does anyone know about a good [...] script for printing emails from Pine? > If you have a postscript printer, you can use something like > enscript or nenscript, e.g. I used to use: > nenscript -2 -G -r > to get 2 columns, gaudy, and rotated (landscape). > I'm also curious to hear about things other people do to get nice > looking printed messages. I usually pipe my mails to a2ps -nH -nn -ns -p -1 -B -F10 | lpr Then again - I hardly ever print anything. ;-) It's worth to take a look at a2ps - it has many options! Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 05:38:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05997; Fri, 23 Aug 96 05:38:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id FAA10419 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 05:35:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id FAA10414 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 05:35:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utvPd-00038BC; Fri, 23 Aug 96 05:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sf7pdgnp@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (Steve Baetzner) Subject: sent-mail Date: 23 Aug 1996 10:57:44 GMT Message-Id: <4vk2r8$d2k@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> I'm having difficulty understanding the exact purpose of "sent-mail" funcltion. Why do I need to keep my "sent-mail" ? Just clutters up and I have to delete them all eventually. Thanks. -- STEVE BAETZNER From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 06:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04759; Fri, 23 Aug 96 06:50:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id GAA15363 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 06:45:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id GAA15358 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 06:45:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utwYI-00038BC; Fri, 23 Aug 96 06:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bryan Stack Subject: Multiple address books Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 08:30:49 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I know I may be missing something obvious, but I haven't been able to figure out how to configure PINE to use multiple address books. The documentation says it can be done, but doesn't seem to tell how to do it. Any suggestions, either how to do it or where I should be looking? Bryan Stack mailto:bstack@creighton.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 06:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06457; Fri, 23 Aug 96 06:59:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id GAA15488 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 06:56:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com (dekalb.vf.mmc.com [192.35.35.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id GAA15483 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 06:56:34 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.lmco.com ([166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA22446 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:56:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.lmco.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA24227 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:56:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (4.1/LMCO SunOS Server Nondomain-1.1) id AA13986; Fri, 23 Aug 96 09:55:03 EDT Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:55:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman X-Sender: sugarman@mmpcs1 To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: [Q] Non-pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Re: Gateway2000 P5-75 Can someone point me to a resource (newsgroup, listserv, etc.) for Gateway2000 users or other appropriate subject? I'm trying to identify the cause of an intermittent hardware malfunction? TIA, Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 07:05:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06722; Fri, 23 Aug 96 07:05:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id HAA11405 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 07:00:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id HAA11400 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 07:00:53 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 23 Aug 96 22:05:38 +0800 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 21:58:05 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Steve Baetzner Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: sent-mail In-Reply-To: <4vk2r8$d2k@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 23 Aug 1996, Steve Baetzner wrote: > I'm having difficulty understanding the exact purpose of "sent-mail" > funcltion. Why do I need to keep my "sent-mail" ? Just clutters up and I > have to delete them all eventually. Thanks. If you'd take the time to go to the setup/config you could read the following: OPTION: Default-FCC (File Carbon Copy) This value specifies where a copy of outgoing mail should be saved. If this is not a path name, it will be in the default collection for saves. Any valid folder specification, local or IMAP, is allowed. This default folder carbon copy only applies when the fcc-rule-name (see later in this configuration screen) is set to use the default folder. Unix Pine default is normally "sent-mail" in the default folder collection. PC-Pine default is "SENTMAIL" (normally stored as SENTMAIL.MTX) To suppress saving of outgoing mail, set: default-fcc="" It seems to do a credible job of explaining the purpose *and* telling you how to turn off the feature. Amazing what the *help* screens will reveal.... ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 07:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06491; Fri, 23 Aug 96 07:09:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id HAA15631 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 07:07:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id HAA15626 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 07:07:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utwqM-00038TC; Fri, 23 Aug 96 07:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sfvh@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (thomas winslett) Subject: two lines which repeat Date: 18 Aug 1996 20:39:47 GMT Message-Id: <4v7v2j$o1n@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> When I scroll through a message and then capture it to save in a word processing prgram, the two lines repeat. This is nice when I am reading the message (although I don't need it or really want it) but it is very irritating when I am saving the message. Is there a better way to save message to word processing programs like Word or ClarisWorks that will not have this problem or can I set an option to not repeat the two lines when I scroll down to the next page. Thx -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Tom Winslett The fact is that more people have been sfvh@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us slaughtered in the name of religion Tampa, Florida USA than for any other single reason. That, THAT my friends, is true perversion! Visit The Interfaith (Harvey Milk, 1978 Gay Freedom Day Rally: Alliance Website The year he was killed by a religious fanatic) www.intr.net/tialliance/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 07:20:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06977; Fri, 23 Aug 96 07:20:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id HAA15765 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 07:17:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sparty.cps.msu.edu (sparty.cps.msu.edu [35.9.20.24]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id HAA15760 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 07:17:25 -0700 Received: by sparty.cps.msu.edu (8.7.5/MSU-2.10) id KAA09282; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:17:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:17:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Tony X-Sender: gatesant@sparty.cps.msu.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: iso-2022-jp Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am getting overloaded with e-mail from Japan because I subscribe to the mail list of my favorite Japanese pop music star. Only problem is, all incoming mail is being typed using iso-2022-jp!!!!!! I was wondering if there was some way I could decipher or decode iso-2022-jp code using PINE in order to render it into either its Kanji/kana equivalent or into some for which is readable in English???? Or do I have to go a different route? tasukute!!!!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 08:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08157; Fri, 23 Aug 96 08:12:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id IAA16677 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 08:07:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id IAA16672 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 08:07:05 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 23 Aug 96 23:11:50 +0800 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 23:04:18 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Tony Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: iso-2022-jp In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, Tony wrote: > I am getting overloaded with e-mail from Japan because I subscribe to the > mail list of my favorite Japanese pop music star. Only problem is, all > incoming mail is being typed using iso-2022-jp!!!!!! > > > I was wondering if there was some way I could decipher or decode > iso-2022-jp code using PINE in order to render it into either its Kanji/kana > equivalent or into some for which is readable in English???? Or do I have > to go a different route? Q. What platform are you using for pine? Q. Do you have the fonts necessary to display iso-2022-jp? ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 08:19:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08433; Fri, 23 Aug 96 08:19:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id IAA16930 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 08:16:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id IAA16925 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 08:16:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utxuE-00038BC; Fri, 23 Aug 96 08:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rich Kester Subject: MAPI SUPPORT Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 11:09:00 -0700 Message-Id: <321DF3BC.1222@atl.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am looking to use MS Exchange and have some users that what to use Pine. How do I convert IMAP ro MAPI or are there any other methods to use these two products. Thanks in advance. <: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 08:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08890; Fri, 23 Aug 96 08:35:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id IAA13020 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 08:32:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from reactor.site.gmu.edu (site.gmu.edu [129.174.40.83]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id IAA13015 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 08:32:23 -0700 Received: from localhost (radusumi@localhost) by reactor.site.gmu.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA11341 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 11:32:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 11:32:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rajesh Adusumilli (CS)" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Request for Info. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I need to see that I send a response to all the mails I recieve that I am in VACATION and will read the messages only after I come back. How can I do this in PINE Please mail me the possible way as I am in Desparate need of it. Bye. Rajesh Adusumilli. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09701; Fri, 23 Aug 96 09:01:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id IAA17856 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 08:57:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id IAA17851 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 08:57:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utyaE-00038BC; Fri, 23 Aug 96 08:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Daniel M. Barton" Subject: Re: Multiple address books Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 11:29:43 -0400 Message-Id: <321DCE67.7D0C@stratech.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bryan Stack wrote: > > I know I may be missing something obvious, but I haven't been able to > figure out how to configure PINE to use multiple address books. The > documentation says it can be done, but doesn't seem to tell how to do it. > Any suggestions, either how to do it or where I should be looking? > > Bryan Stack > mailto:bstack@creighton.edu That's an easy one, you can either add it through setup/config, or add the following to your .pinerc file: address-book=.addressbook1, .addressbook2 Regards, Daniel From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09426; Fri, 23 Aug 96 09:20:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA18430 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:16:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA18425 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:16:35 -0700 Received: by uu7.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA11810 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 23 Aug 96 12:16:30 -0400 Received: from localhost by borris.bgsg.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA67133; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 11:44:45 -0400 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 11:44:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Shaffer <02rss@borris.bgsg.com> To: Les Wallis Cc: Pine Info Group Subject: Re: Forwarding from Pine to Novell In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I can not help directly with your problem, but this is how we use mail in our organization. RS-6000 runs SMTP UUCP gateway to internet AIX users run Pine Netware 4.1 server runs Mercury 1.22 (SMTP gateway for pegasus mail, works on 3.x also) DOS/Windows users run pegasus mail. Besides the low cost, IMHO Pine is the best email program for unix and Pegasus is the best email program for dos/wintel world. Mercury (by the same author as Pegasus) hooks them both together. +------------------------------+--------------------------------+ | Robert S. Shaffer Jr. | e-mail : bshaffer@bgsg.com | | Sr. Systems Administrator | voice : 800.624.5914 | | The BGS&G Companies | voice : 301.777.1500 | | 44 Baltimore Street | fax : 301.724.3953 | | Cumberland, MD 21502 | web : http://www.bgsg.com | +------------------------------+--------------------------------+ On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, Les Wallis wrote: > > One of our sites has a Novell Server networked with an adjacent Unix > server. Users on the server can log in to a session on the Unix server. > > The Novell Server has WFWGPO but they ask me "what do we have to put in > .forward to have mail redirected to MSmail. Likewise is it > easy to send mail directly from MSmail to the world." > > The Unix server is connected via uucp to another server with Internet > access, and users of Pine on that server can send and receive mail via > the uucp link. But how to get the mail from/to MSmail? > > As I am mostly a Unix person and not much a DOS/Windows/Novell person I > have not got a clue. Can someone out there help, even if to say there is > not enough information to give an answer? > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30305; Fri, 23 Aug 96 09:29:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA18655 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:25:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA18650 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:25:41 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 23 AUG 96 09:24:10 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:24:10 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: Marking Text Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I can't seem to get the ^^ feature to engage. I've set the "preserve-start-stop" items in my configuration setup, but I still have to use ^K to delete line by line while my screen scrolls S-L-O-W-L-Y line by line as it deletes. Any ideas on why Ctrl-^ isn't working? ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22946; Fri, 23 Aug 96 09:42:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA14699 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:39:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dhc1.deehoward.com (dhc1.deehoward.com [206.127.16.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA14694 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:39:05 -0700 Received: from localhost by dhc1.deehoward.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA112610; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 11:35:59 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 11:35:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrea Gonzales To: Linda Emerson Cc: Pine Info Mail List Subject: Re: Marking Text In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, Linda Emerson wrote: > I can't seem to get the ^^ feature to engage. I've set the > "preserve-start-stop" items in my configuration setup, but I still have to > use ^K to delete line by line while my screen scrolls S-L-O-W-L-Y line by > line as it deletes. Any ideas on why Ctrl-^ isn't working? Are you hittin ^^ or ^6...^6 is the propper one. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:59:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09995; Fri, 23 Aug 96 09:59:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA19389 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:56:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA19384 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:56:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utzT4-00038BC; Fri, 23 Aug 96 09:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@neumann.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: vacation? Date: 23 Aug 1996 16:51:52 GMT Message-Id: References: <321C7801.F7F@darkknight.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable usaysir@darkknight.net (usaysir@darkknight.net): > i know that many mail programs allow the posting of a file called .vaca= tion > which sends auto responce to the sender the moment the email arrives ..= .. > is there the a way to get the same effect with pine? No. Think about it: Pine could only do this while it is running. When you are away then you dont start pine (do you? ;-). As it won't run it cannot take action on incoming mails. Thus pine is not the right tool for it. QED. Btw, "vacation" is a program - not a file. However, it creates files, namely $HOME/.vacation.msg and $HOME/.forward. Thus the program that receives the mail (the MTA - mail transfer agent) will know what to do with new mail. WARNING: Do NOT use "vacation" if you are subscribed to mailing list. Its a terrible nuisance to receive auto=ADsent mails from people who do not even read their mails and thus cannot take action upon this. :-( Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08867; Fri, 23 Aug 96 10:05:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id KAA15192 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:01:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id KAA15184 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:01:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0utzY8-00038BC; Fri, 23 Aug 96 09:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: Reading BinHex4.0 Messages Date: 23 Aug 1996 11:39:19 -0500 Message-Id: <4vkmrn$uqp@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [cc'ed and posted] In article , Steve Lowe wrote: > > Today, I received a BinHex 4.0 message. The $64 question is how to read > the attachment. Good luck. You could get and install `mcvert', and add the following to your mime.types file, if it's not already there: application/mac-binhex40 hqx Then add something like: application/mac-binhex40; mcvert %s to your mailcap, but then you're just going to get to see whatever document was `wrapped' (BinHex is kinda like `uuencode' -- once you've undone that you're generally left with a binary file that you then have to figure out how to interpret). > My platform is Digital Ultrix and Pine 3.95. Do I have to make an entry > in /etc/mailcap? More than likely, but you're probably still not going to be able to read what was sent. Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:13:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08010; Fri, 23 Aug 96 10:13:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA15073 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:56:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailh1a.cyberway.com.sg (mailh1a.cyberway.com.sg [203.116.1.29]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id JAA15068 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:56:40 -0700 Received: from LOCALNAME (d4032.ppp4.cyberway.com.sg [203.116.4.32]) by mailh1a.cyberway.com.sg (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA18025; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 22:13:57 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miscsat@vm1.nodak.edu, woodwork%ipfwvm@indycms.iupui.edu, airliners@chicago.com, scifaq-l@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu, fitsbits@nrao.edu, ecolog-l@umdd.umd.edu, ethology@searn.sunet.se, evolution@pogo.cqs.washington.edu, herp-l@xtal200.harvard.edu, pol-econ@shsu.edu, hydrogen@uriacc.uri.edu, nihongo@mitvma.mit.edu, aids@rutvm1.rutgers.edu, hspnet-l%albnydh2@cunyvm.cuny.edu, physics@unix.sri.com, fusion@zorch.sf-bay.org, psyc@pucc.princeton.edu, space@isu.isunet.edu, stat-l@vm1.mcgill.ca, edstat-l@jse.stat.ncsu.edu, chile-l@tamvm1.tamu.edu, scj@nysernet.org, nepal@mp.cs.niu.edu, scs-l@indycms.iupui.edu, vietnet@usc.edu, feminism-digest@netcom.com, gencmp-l@gitvm1.gatech.edu, gen-fr-l@gitvm1.gatech.edu, jewgen@gitvm1.gatech.edu, genmtd-l@gitvm1.gatech.edu, genmsc-l@gitvm1.gatech.edu, gennam-l@gitvm1.gatech.edu, hist-sci@cshl.org, usnonprofit-l@rain.org, arms-l@buacca.bu.edu, bahai-faith@oneworld.new-era.com, bible-study@spss.com, tps-l@indycms.iupui.edu, vmsgopher-l@trln.lib.unc.edu, macro32@wkuvx1.wku.edu, mx-list@wkuvx1.wku.edu, lanworks@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu, decmcc-l@auvm.american.edu, cmu-openvms-ip@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu, info-multinet@tgv.com, wintcp-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu, info-tpu@shsu.edu, vmsnet@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu From: Jeffrey Tay Swee Kim Subject: Free Software Please visit my humble home page at: http://www.cyberway.com.sg/~kaizen93 to download a free software. Please make the software available to schools, child-care centres, etc. in your area if you find it to be useful. If you can, do me the favour of broadcasting this message to others. Thank you. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11704; Fri, 23 Aug 96 10:44:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id KAA16179 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:41:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id KAA16174 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:41:30 -0700 From: msw@mailya.yakima.com Received: from uucp1.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp1.UU.NET [192.48.96.32]) id QQbeao25237; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 13:41:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailya.UUCP by uucp1.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 13:41:29 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by mailya.yakima.com id AA840821060 Fri, 23 Aug 96 10:24:20 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 10:24:20 Message-Id: <9607238408.AA840821060@mailya.yakima.com> To: "Pine email discussions" Subject: Help on installation of Pine on AIX Maybe I'm missing something simple, but I thought that the following commands were all that are required to deal with the pine-info.a32.Z Pine archive file: Machine: IBM RS/6000-560 O/S: AIX UNIX v3.2.5 File: pine-info.a32.Z Command: zcat pine-info.a32.Z | tar xvf - The "tar" command fails with the following error message: tar: 0511-169 A directory checksum error on media; 0 not equal to 13403. Any clues/suggestions? - Michael ------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Wright, Systems Analyst email: msw@yakima.com Yakima Products, Inc. Ph: 707-826-8175 P.O. Box 4899, Arcata, CA 95521 (USA) Fx: 707-826-8149 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:58:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12096; Fri, 23 Aug 96 10:58:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id KAA16478 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:54:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id KAA16473 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:54:41 -0700 Received: from localhost (skramer@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.07/8.7.3+UW96.07) with SMTP id KAA18368; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:54:26 -0700 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:54:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Kramer To: bg7221606@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Lost overseas friend account In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: "University of Washington, Computing and Communications" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You may find the "Tools for finding addresses" useful, on the World Wide Web at http://www.washington.edu/nic/addresses/tools.html ------------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu Network Information Center http://www.washington.edu/nic/ Computing & Communications University of Washington ------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 22 Aug 1996 bg7221606@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg wrote: # Hello, # I have used pine to communicate with people from overseas, and # I was able to make a lot of friends through pine. But currently I lost # two of my friends' account, and was unable to reach them. I really want # to get back their account, at least I got their name and address. I really # hope that you can help me, please. I do not want to lose any friends. Pine # really acts as a communication medium for people around the world to get # to know each other better. Hope to receive from you soon. Bye # From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 11:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11713; Fri, 23 Aug 96 11:02:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id KAA20789 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:58:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id KAA20784 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:58:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (skramer@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.07/8.7.3+UW96.07) with SMTP id KAA18475 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:58:28 -0700 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:58:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Kramer Reply-To: Stefan Kramer To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine Information Center now with searchable index In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: "University of Washington, Computing and Communications" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The Pine Information Center (at http://www.washington.edu/pine/) now has a searchable full-text index of all of its documents; select "search" near the top of its homepage. To construct the most effective searches, please look at the available options. This addition is still somewhat experimental, but we hope it will be useful. ------------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu University of Washington Computing & Communications ------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Stefan Kramer wrote: # # We are in the process of revising the Pine FAQs, and also adding a # keyword-searchable full-text index of all the documents in the Pine # Information Center (http://www.washington.edu/pine/). This searchable # index will be independent of, and in addition to, the two (one full-text, # one subject-lines-only) for the Pine Discussion Forum archives at # http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/. After that is implemented, a # periodic, but brief posting -- as opposed to a lengthy one with many # questions and their answers -- will go out to the Pine newsgroup/mailing # list about where and how to find answers to questions about, or related to, # Pine. # .... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 11:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12394; Fri, 23 Aug 96 11:16:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id LAA21105 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 11:11:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id LAA21100 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 11:11:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uu0ez-00038BC; Fri, 23 Aug 96 11:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: INBOX.lock problem: can't read my mail! Date: 23 Aug 1996 12:29:28 -0500 Message-Id: <4vkppo$err@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: <321C1A55.3AAB@ee.mcgill.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <321C1A55.3AAB@ee.mcgill.ca>, Pierre-Luc Bisaillion wrote: > Hi! > > I am using PINE 3.91 on a UNIX machine, and for two days I haven't been > able to get any mail. I am not sure if the problem is directly related to > PINE, but any help would be greatly appreciated! (I have asked the admin > here, but he couldn't fix the problem...) > > Here are the symptoms: > * I can't receive mail (!!!) > * I can open PINE, and view the same INBOX as two days ago. Never any new > message (and some have been sent). I can browse through all my folders. If your INBOX is on the same machine as you, find it and use 'ls -l' to list the size of the file. Likely places to look for your INBOX would be: /var/spool/mail/bizz or /usr/spool/mail/bizz or /var/mail/bizz If you can't find it, ask your administrator where your mail `spool file' is located. Once you find it, use the ls -l command and check the size. Now send yourself some email (or have a friend send you some), wait a while, and then check the size of the file. If the size hasn't changed then the mail isn't even getting to you. If the size has changed, but you can't see the new message when you enter pine, then it's a problem with your INBOX. If it turns out that the size of the INBOX changed (increased) but you can't see the new message then ask your system administrator to look through the file with a tool that can spot control characters and other characters out of the normal printable range. `less' or `od -c' should work. The sysadmin should be looking for out-of-band characters in the email headers of the various messages in your INBOX. If you find any, that's more than likely the problem. You'll need to use an editor or command to delete the characters from your spool file. If all else fails, ask your admin to rename your spool file, and try sending yourself another message. A new spool file will be created for you, and from then on you should be able read the messages that get appended to that file. To view the messages in your old spool file, use a command like `more' or `less'. Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 15:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17447; Fri, 23 Aug 96 15:10:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id PAA26930 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 15:06:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from www.gnofn.org (www.gnofn.org [199.181.71.9]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id PAA26923 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 15:06:50 -0700 Received: (from let01@localhost) by www.gnofn.org (8.7.Beta.10/8.7.Beta.10) id RAA29643; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 17:10:22 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 17:10:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199608232210.RAA29643@www.gnofn.org> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Url: mailto:pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2-4-1 From: let01@gnofn.org Subject: mailto:pine-info@cac.washington.edu How do I upgrade to Pine 3.95 ???????????????????? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 16:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19056; Fri, 23 Aug 96 16:54:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA24618 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 16:52:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA24613 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 16:52:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uu5z0-00038BC; Fri, 23 Aug 96 16:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Bulbrook Subject: PC-Pine news and Netscape Secure News server Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 13:56:51 -0400 Message-Id: <321DF0E3.3E15@email.unc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm running Netscape's News Server 2.0 on an NT machine, and running PC Pine 3.91, 3.93, and 3.95 on various client machines throughtout our labs, desktops, and kiosks. The news server hosts password-protected newsgroups. Everything works correctly when accessing the server with a netscape navigator client. The problem is this: Pine can access the newsgroups fine. The user gets a name and password prompt upon entering a password protected newsgroup, and reading messages works fine, but posting does not. When I tried to post a response into the newsgroup, I was prompted again for a name and password, but the name field was full of garbled characters. When I entered the correct name and password, I got two beeps, then an error message at the bottom reading: Error posting message: 500 What? Anyone have any ideas? Is password-protected newsgroups a standard, or is this a Netscape custom extension? Any chance that this feature might be supported? Anyone know what 500 What means? Please CC any responses to email. Thanks -- Harry Bulbrook - bulbrook@email.unc.edu Off the hub, into the bridge Network Administrator through the router - UNC School of Law 962-5486 Nothing but net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 17:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13219; Fri, 23 Aug 96 17:24:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id RAA29759 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 17:22:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id RAA29754 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 17:22:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uu6Tl-00038BC; Fri, 23 Aug 96 17:21 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steve Smith Subject: Pine Addressbook with IMAP Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 12:36:25 -0400 Message-Id: <321C8C89.1E3@calumet.yorku.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello! We have recently switched our mail server, and we plan to use PCPine for our email client. So far we have managed to get eveything in PCPine to work with our new IMAP server. The only thing that I cannot get into through PCPine is my addressbook on the server. Is this even possible? or must every machine have a unique addressbook? I've tried renaming the addressbook on the server (using unix pine) and editing the .pinerc but I haven't had much luck. Let me know if you have any suggestions, Thanks in advance, From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 17:53:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20459; Fri, 23 Aug 96 17:53:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id RAA00286 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 17:51:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id RAA00281 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 17:51:18 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 23 AUG 96 17:47:06 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 17:47:06 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Andrea Gonzales Cc: Pine Info Mail List Subject: Re: Marking Text In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, Andrea Gonzales wrote: > Are you hittin ^^ or ^6...^6 is the propper one. > I'm hitting Ctrl-^ just like the command indicates. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 17:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28500; Fri, 23 Aug 96 17:53:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id RAA25695 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 17:52:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id RAA25690 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 17:52:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uu6v1-00038BC; Fri, 23 Aug 96 17:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: skendric@fhcrc.org (Stuart Kendrick) Subject: pine.conf and location of sendmail binary Date: 22 Aug 1996 19:26:06 GMT Message-Id: <4vic8e$ml9@mule.fhcrc.org> I installed Pine, tried to send a message, and received an error to the effect that Pine couldn't find /usr/lib/sendmail. Aha! I thought, I know what the problem is: I've moved sendmail to /opt/local/sbin. So I created /opt/local/lib/pine.conf, consisting of the single line: sendmail-path=/opt/local/sbin/sendmail Tried sending the message again, and Pine (apparently) sent my test message just fine. But in fact, Pine is actually tossing mail into the bit bucket. Copies are saved to sent-mail, of course, but the message itself vanishes. I've run Pine under truss and stared at the output. I can see the call to /opt/local/sbin/sendmail. I hard-linked /usr/bin/sendmail to /opt/local/sbin/sendmail. Same problem. I then removed /opt/local/sbin/pine.conf. Bingo! Things work again. OK, so is this a bug or am I missing something? And can anyone describe the details of how this fails? Clearly, /opt/local/sbin/sendmail gets called ... but it tosses the message, instead of sending it. I don't understand how this can be -- sendmail's behavior at this point should be unrelated to any weirdness on Pine's part. Pine 3.95, Solaris 2.5.1 Attached are entries from syslog. The first illustrates the failure condition. The second illustrates the successful condition. Aug 22 12:20:01 spitbug sendmail[3945]: MAA03945: from=sbk, size=262, class=0, p ri=262, nrcpts=0, msgid=, relay=sbk@localhost Aug 22 12:20:45 spitbug sendmail[3952]: MAA03952: from=, size=280, class=0, pri=30280, nrcpts=1, msgid=, proto=SMTP, relay=sbk@localhost Aug 22 12:20:47 spitbug sendmail[3953]: MAA03952: to=, ctlad dr= (18602/90), delay=00:00:02, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=e smtp, relay=bug1.fhcrc.org. [140.107.10.110], stat=Sent (Ok) --sk Stuart Kendrick Network Services FHCRC From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 19:05:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21069; Fri, 23 Aug 96 19:05:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA26468 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 19:02:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA26460 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 19:02:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uu7xZ-00038BC; Fri, 23 Aug 96 18:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: das@panix.com (David Staschover) Subject: What does the plus sign mean? Date: 22 Aug 1996 17:41:03 -0400 Message-Id: <4vik5f$55g@panix.com> Can someone tell me what the + means to the left of some message indexes? Thanks, David Staschover das@panix.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21416; Fri, 23 Aug 96 20:04:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA27149 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:02:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id UAA27144 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:02:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uu8xw-00038BC; Fri, 23 Aug 96 20:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Killfiles Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 15:25:32 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4v0qsb$je6@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, Matt Chatterley wrote: > On 8 Aug 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > "Pine 3.95 does not support kill files for e-mail or news". > > Will pine support kill files for eMail or useNet in the near (or distant) > future? :-) > Killfile support is on our to-do list, but I don't know when we will get to it. I remember we considered it for Pine 3.92 but decided it was more work than we wanted to tackle then..... On 15 Aug 1996, Tim Mooney wrote: > I don't mean to get medieval on you, but if you have read the numerous posts > about filtering email you should see (or at least see that the devlopers > and others feel) that it's not the business of the mail client to do > filtering to different folders, at least on Unix machines. If you want to > filter your email, use procmail (or Elm's filter, though Sven says thats > become unsupported). Filtering actually is a completely different question. It is much more efficient to handle filtering before final message delivery. I certainly wouldn't be happy if Pine spent a few minutes sorting my incoming mail when I started it up ;-) > > I say "...at least on Unix machines" because one could argue that on PCs where > one connects to a server and possibly downloads all their email, it may be nice > to have the downloading program seperate the email into folders based on > certain criteria. I won't argue this point either way. With IMAP, your incoming folders can all be on the server. This means that with a delivery filter, your mail can already be sorted into the correct folders when you connect. > As far as killfiles/memorized commands for Usenet news, I asked the pine > developers about this and they said it was a feature they intend to add in a > future release. > > It's my opinion that if you read more than a couple of newsgroups that receive > any traffic whatsoever, memorized commands alone won't be enough to make pine > worthwhile as more than a toy newsreader, though. I'm not convinced that a simple killfile mechanism is enough either. But that's another discussion... ;-) --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21596; Fri, 23 Aug 96 20:31:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA02207 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:28:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from phantom.cac.washington.edu (phantom.cac.washington.edu [140.142.110.47]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id UAA02202 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:28:54 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by phantom.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.07) with SMTP id UAA25076; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:28:52 -0700 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:28:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Rich Kester Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: MAPI SUPPORT In-Reply-To: <321DF3BC.1222@atl.mindspring.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You'll probably need to wait until Exchange supports IMAP, which is planned (both server support and a MAPI-IMAP driver). -teg On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, Rich Kester wrote: > I am looking to use MS Exchange and have some users that what to use > Pine. How do I convert IMAP ro MAPI or are there any other methods to > use these two products. > Thanks in advance. <: > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21673; Fri, 23 Aug 96 20:37:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA27500 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:35:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from phantom.cac.washington.edu (phantom.cac.washington.edu [140.142.110.47]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id UAA27495 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:35:09 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by phantom.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.07) with SMTP id UAA25123; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:35:07 -0700 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:35:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Steve Smith Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Addressbook with IMAP In-Reply-To: <321C8C89.1E3@calumet.yorku.ca> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Remote access to addressbooks is a high priority, but not yet possible (except by mounting the Unix disk as a remote file system via SMB or NFS.) Sorry... -teg On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Steve Smith wrote: > Hello! > > We have recently switched our mail server, and we plan to use PCPine for > our email client. > > So far we have managed to get eveything in PCPine to work with our new > IMAP server. The only thing that I cannot get into through PCPine is my > addressbook on the server. Is this even possible? or must every machine > have a unique addressbook? I've tried renaming the addressbook on the > server (using unix pine) and editing the .pinerc but I haven't had much > luck. > > Let me know if you have any suggestions, > > Thanks in advance, > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:38:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21666; Fri, 23 Aug 96 20:38:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA27536 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:37:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from phantom.cac.washington.edu (phantom.cac.washington.edu [140.142.110.47]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id UAA27531 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:37:14 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by phantom.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.07) with SMTP id UAA25152; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:37:06 -0700 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:37:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Linda Emerson Cc: Andrea Gonzales , Pine Info Mail List Subject: Re: Marking Text In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Some communication s/w or h/w devices "swallow" certain control characters. As a workaround, try ESC ESC ^ -teg On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, Linda Emerson wrote: > > > On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, Andrea Gonzales wrote: > > Are you hittin ^^ or ^6...^6 is the propper one. > > > I'm hitting Ctrl-^ just like the command indicates. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 21:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21962; Fri, 23 Aug 96 21:14:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA02813 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 21:12:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id VAA02808 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 21:12:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuA4I-00038BC; Fri, 23 Aug 96 21:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu (Annelise Anderson) Subject: Re: Pine Version (was untitled) Date: 23 Aug 1996 08:22:35 GMT Message-Id: <4vjpob$86b@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: Daniel W. Kelker (afn48623@afn.org) wrote: : Hello. : My name is Daniel Kelker. I want to know is my pine program unix or pc(?). : And what are the nomal configuration settings for: "incoming-arcives : -folders" : , "pruned-folders", : and "defalt-fcc". : sincerly, : Daniel Kelker If your pine program is running on a machine that runs dos/windows, it's pcpine (a version for pc's); if it's running on unix (even if the version of unix is running on a pc, as is mine, FreeBSD), then it's unix pine. You can get an explanation of each of the options in the configuration menu with the help key (maybe ? or something like that). If you don't know what they are talking about, just leave it as is. default-fcc is the location of the copy of a message you send (the file carbon copy?). I have this set in my pine configuration file to the current mail folder, so that I keep mail on different subjects (or from different groups) together whether I get it or send it. Hope that helps. Annelise From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 22:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22410; Fri, 23 Aug 96 22:30:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id WAA28910 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 22:27:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id WAA28905 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 22:27:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuBC4-00038BC; Fri, 23 Aug 96 22:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aleksandar simic Subject: Question: PINE & Security Date: 22 Aug 1996 12:39:19 GMT Message-Id: <4vhkdn$6ip@news.bellglobal.com> Hello World, I've just subscribed to this newsgroup and I have a question. I'd like to replace elm with PINE and I wonder is there any known security problems with PINE (and workarounds, too ;-). I'm talking about UNIX PINE (HP-UX 10.x exactly) Any response would be greatly appreciated. Please respond to aasimic@mobility.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 23:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22851; Fri, 23 Aug 96 23:25:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id XAA04338 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 23:18:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id XAA04333 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 23:18:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuC1E-00038BC; Fri, 23 Aug 96 23:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: Re: question Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 16:26:23 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I am assuming that what you want to do is exit from a message and enter into the list of folders? If so when you are in the message just type a L. If you wish to leave a message and enter into the index of other messages in the folder type I. This is also assuming that you are using Unix pine. I don't know if it is different in PC pine. |Hello all |i have a queastion .. how do i exit for a msg (newsgroup) back to the |msgs list ?? | |Haggai. | | | Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 23:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23372; Fri, 23 Aug 96 23:56:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id XAA29913 for pine-info-out; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 23:52:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id XAA29908 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 23:52:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuCa7-00038BC; Fri, 23 Aug 96 23:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: svante@deep-purple.com (Svante Pettersson) Subject: Re: Can I post/reply? Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 23:51:19 GMT Message-Id: <4vg6h7$i7i@spider.hik.se> References: <4vattl$2v7@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> abe0084@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (Adam Vardy) wrote: >Can I post a followup message to usenet and also reply to the poster by >email at the same time? You can in 3.95. ------------------------------------------ Svante Pettersson, svante@deep-purple.com Content editor, http://www.deep-purple.com/ ------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 00:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23273; Sat, 24 Aug 96 00:35:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id AAA05229 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 00:33:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id AAA05224 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 00:32:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuD8v-00038BC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 00:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mark@cs.wm.edu (Mark Raciborski) Subject: AIX 4.2 and PINE Date: 19 Aug 1996 15:31:52 GMT Message-Id: <4va1d8$1iq@tick.cs.wm.edu> We upgraded from AIX 3.2.55 to AIX 4.2. This release runs a new SMTP/SENDMAIL. PINE 3.89, 3.85, and 3.91 along with Eudora all hang when you try to send Email. Anyone seen this problem or know what is wrong? thanks, mark@mail.wm.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 00:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23719; Sat, 24 Aug 96 00:50:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id AAA00603 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 00:48:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id AAA00598 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 00:48:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuDNO-00038BC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 00:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jvichere@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Jan Vicherek) Subject: add "/" to tab-completion in "Save" cmd Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 19:16:46 GMT Hi. I just noticed that Pine 3.95 doesn't add the "/" ('\' for dos users) in the Tab-Completion in "Save" command. E.g. I have folder ~/mail/personal/grandma and when I try to save mail from inbox, and type per it expands to "personal" instead of "personal/". Is that a planned "fix" ? Thanx, Jan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 03:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24986; Sat, 24 Aug 96 03:58:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id DAA02430 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 03:56:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from paknet1.ptc.pk ([203.135.0.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id DAA02425 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 03:56:03 -0700 Received: from localhost by paknet1.ptc.pk; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/14Apr96-0132PM) id AA24638; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 15:56:08 +0500 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 15:56:07 +0500 (GMT+0500) From: "s.m masieh ul islam" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: razas02@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu Subject: PRINTING TEXTS OF EMAIL MESSAGES Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII DEAR SIRS,USING COMMAND FOR PRINTING ,I AM INFORMED THAT PRINTING PERMISSIOPN IS DENIED.SINCE I NEED TO PRINT MESSAGES RECEIVED FROM MY SONS STUDYING IN ST.CLOUD,U.S.A FOR SHOWING THOSE TO OTHER MEMBERS OF THE FAMILY,I SHALL APPRECIATE IF ICAN BE ADVISED AS TO HOW I SHOULD GO ABOUT DOING SO .REGARDS.MASIEH From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 04:10:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24782; Sat, 24 Aug 96 04:10:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id EAA07551 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 04:08:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id EAA07546 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 04:08:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuGYo-00038BC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 04:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Macvsog@cris.com (Leroy Brown) Subject: Re: Marking Text Date: 24 Aug 1996 11:03:07 GMT Message-Id: <4vmnhb$eoj@herald.concentric.net> References: Linda Emerson (lindae@mlode.com) wrote: : On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, Andrea Gonzales wrote: : > Are you hittin ^^ or ^6...^6 is the propper one. : > : I'm hitting Ctrl-^ just like the command indicates. While holding down the shift and control keys, hit the 6 key twice. You should see a messge on the bottom of the screen saying "Mark Set". From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 05:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25435; Sat, 24 Aug 96 05:11:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id FAA03361 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 05:08:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id FAA03356 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 05:08:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuHSR-00038BC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 05:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@neumann.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: sent-mail Date: 23 Aug 1996 14:39:49 GMT Message-Id: References: <4vk2r8$d2k@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> sf7pdgnp@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (Steve Baetzner): > I'm having difficulty understanding the exact purpose of "sent-mail" > funcltion. Why do I need to keep my "sent-mail" ? > Just clutters up and I have to delete them all eventually. Workaround: Turn the feature off. Then you won't have to worry about it. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 05:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25638; Sat, 24 Aug 96 05:51:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id FAA08483 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 05:48:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id FAA08478 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 05:48:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuI7u-00038BC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 05:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jshin@pantheon.yale.edu (Jungshik Shin) Subject: Re: iso-2022-jp Date: 24 Aug 1996 08:45:09 -0400 Message-Id: <4vmtgl$5nd@net161-61.student.yale.edu> References: Tony wrote: : I was wondering if there was some way I could decipher or decode : iso-2022-jp code using PINE in order to render it into either its Kanji/kana : equivalent or into some for which is readable in English???? Or do I have : to go a different route? If you can display Japanese characters in your terminal (e.g. Kterm for X window or terminal emulators running in MS-Windows/DOS/Mac with Japanese support) and you use PINE on a Unix host, you can set display filter(Setup - Config menu in Pine 3.92 or later. I noticed that you posted this with Pine 3.91. You'd better ask your system admin. to upgrade it 3.95 ) to automatically convert ISO-2022-JP to whatever local character set you use for Japanese. You can find out where to get the converter by reading CJK.inf by Ken Lunde available at ftp://ftp.ora.com/pub/examples/nutshell/ujip/doc/cjk.inf Jungshik Shin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 06:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25873; Sat, 24 Aug 96 06:16:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id GAA03949 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 06:09:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com (dekalb.vf.mmc.com [192.35.35.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id GAA03944 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 06:09:06 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.lmco.com ([166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA07146 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 09:09:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.lmco.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA13085 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 09:09:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (4.1/LMCO SunOS Server Nondomain-1.1) id AA19255; Sat, 24 Aug 96 09:07:45 EDT Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 09:07:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman X-Sender: sugarman@mmpcs1 To: Terry Gray Subject: Re: Marking Text In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 09:07:36 -0400 (EDT) Resent-From: Don Sugarman Resent-To: Pine Info Mail List Resent-Message-Id: On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, Terry Gray wrote: On my system, I press ctrl-^ twice. Our LAN hardware uses ctrl-^ as a local escape sequence. If it sees two in a row, it passes it through. > Some communication s/w or h/w devices "swallow" certain control > characters. As a workaround, try ESC ESC ^ > > -teg > > On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, Linda Emerson wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, Andrea Gonzales wrote: > > > Are you hittin ^^ or ^6...^6 is the propper one. > > > > > I'm hitting Ctrl-^ just like the command indicates. > > > > > > Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 06:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25894; Sat, 24 Aug 96 06:19:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id GAA03997 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 06:13:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id GAA03992 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 06:13:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuIVY-00038BC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 06:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Wellcome to 3.95 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 15:40:58 -0700 Message-Id: References: <32177CEA.12D6@khro.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32177CEA.12D6@khro.fi> For some reason, Pine is unable to update your .pinerc file. Correct that and the problem should go away. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 18 Aug 1996, Mika Siiskonen wrote: > From: Mika Siiskonen > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Wellcome to 3.95 > Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 13:28:26 -0700 > Organization: KHRO > Message-ID: <32177CEA.12D6@khro.fi> > NNTP-Posting-Host: mikapc.khro.fi > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) > > Hi all, > > i have installed Pine version 3.95 to my > Sparc Classic with Solaris 2.4 in it. > Every time i open pine i get the Wellcome screen: > Do you want to receive Getting most of pine > via email. Screen tells that it will appear > just once but it opens every time. > When i answer No to receive question, pine tells > Incomplete mail domain khrsun and then the return > address you send may be incorrect ? > What do this all mean ? > Do i have to do some changes to Solaris conf files ? > > Mika > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 06:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25889; Sat, 24 Aug 96 06:28:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id GAA08844 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 06:23:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id GAA08839 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 06:23:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuIcI-00038BC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 06:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mandeep singh Subject: Re: Help on installation of Pine on AIX Date: 24 Aug 1996 13:13:46 GMT Message-Id: <4vmv6a$dsg@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> References: <9607238408.AA840821060@mailya.yakima.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit download the file again... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mandeep Singh | mandeep@worldnet.att.net | 203-978-0919 (h) 960 Hope Street, Apt 2D | mandeep@ims.advantis.com | 914-684-4819 (o) Stamford, CT 06907 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 09:01:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26836; Sat, 24 Aug 96 09:01:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id IAA05593 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 08:58:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from fish.la.asu.edu (fish.la.asu.edu [129.219.45.155]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id IAA05588 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 08:58:15 -0700 Message-Id: <199608241558.IAA05588@mx1.cac.washington.edu> Received: by fish.la.asu.edu (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA03657; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 08:59:32 -0700 From: Peter Unmack Subject: Re: Marking Text To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Sat, 24 Aug 96 8:59:31 MST In-Reply-To: ; from "Linda Emerson" at Aug 23, 96 9:24 am Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] > I can't seem to get the ^^ feature to engage. I've set the > "preserve-start-stop" items in my configuration setup, but I still have to > use ^K to delete line by line while my screen scrolls S-L-O-W-L-Y line by > line as it deletes. Any ideas on why Ctrl-^ isn't working? Try ctrl-shift-^, that may help. Otherwise you will have to configure your terminal emulation program, ie the program you use to connect. Cheers Peter From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 10:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27658; Sat, 24 Aug 96 10:38:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id KAA06698 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 10:34:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id KAA06693 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 10:34:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuMXv-00038BC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 10:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joseph McWilliams Subject: Editing problems in PICO Message-Id: Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 12:18:48 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here's the scenario: Pine_3.95 and Pico_2.9 code compiled and running in NeXTStep 3.3. In a console terminal window, editing in both Pine and Pico works fine. Over a modem, while Pine still works as advertised, Pico has enough problems to render it worthless. - Only a few Ctrl-codes are recognized. Luckily Crtl-X is one of those. The others simply pass ANSI characters to the screen, diamonds, arrows, faces, etc. - The keyboard characters are recognized but a produces only a carrage return but no new-line The problem isn't with the modem. I can dial up this machine and Pico is broken. If I then telnet to another machine and telnet back to the first machine, Pico will now work fine. Should Pico be recompiled with a different setup? Any suggestions would be welcome. Joe McWilliams From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 11:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27969; Sat, 24 Aug 96 11:30:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id LAA12122 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 11:24:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id LAA12117 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 11:24:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuNIu-00038BC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 11:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI (Holger Lillqvist) Subject: Re: filter usage?? Date: 24 Aug 1996 18:13:28 GMT Message-Id: References: <4vj57f$j8g@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <4vj57f$j8g@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>, mandeep singh wrote: >gurus: > >i am new fan of pine and i have my first question. >how do i use the filters? can someone explain how do i >block msg from a particular user? Why don't you try yourself, to begin with? On my system, the command 'man filter' gives seven screenfuls of information. Try it. -- hl From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 13:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28628; Sat, 24 Aug 96 13:18:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id NAA13208 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 13:14:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id NAA13203 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 13:14:02 -0700 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr38.interl.net [205.244.161.38]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA08298 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 15:13:10 -0500 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 15:13:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Englander To: pine-info Subject: Error saving configuration... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I'm running Pine 3.95 under Linux, and it's just my girlfriend and I using the system. I have no problems, and haven't in a long time. If I log in under her account, Pine 'can't save configuration in /home/mygirlfriend/.pinerc'. She owns her .pinerc, and no matter how I chmod it, it still doesn't work. There are also about 15 temp pinercxxxxxx files in /tmp. Any ideas? Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMh9hpiGB07hAGnFhAQHdHAQAxP7lahof9DukPxgVLYXLaeq2E10/X1I0 DOXwxsU778Utehwa7XhktMETUC7Cb+yhfO7EshfVQKjP63xZpmj744x0uGImU9V5 FlO/ewKmD7+XYNk379wDzfeRfj5gHUjtp7l5JjlftIFmTdewkL3DQwrTRCcQNdpf sr0tAYWpT90= =XbGq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jason Englander -=- Burlington, IA - USA E-mail: jasoneng@interl.net, necrojason@geocities.com WWW: http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ PGP-Key: send mail with subject: "get-pgp-key" =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 13:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29016; Sat, 24 Aug 96 13:46:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id NAA13444 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 13:34:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id NAA13439 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 13:34:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuPP1-00038TC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 13:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edpaolo@intac.com (Ed Paolo) Subject: Re: Lost overseas friend account Date: 23 Aug 1996 23:11:52 GMT Message-Id: <4vldro$ent@uucp.intac.com> References: Ed Greshko (Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com) wrote: : On Thu, 22 Aug 1996 bg7221606@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg wrote: : > I have used pine to communicate with people from overseas, and : > I was able to make a lot of friends through pine. But currently I lost : > two of my friends' account, and was unable to reach them. I really want : > to get back their account, at least I got their name and address. I really : > hope that you can help me, please. I do not want to lose any friends. Pine : > really acts as a communication medium for people around the world to get : > to know each other better. Hope to receive from you soon. Bye Check out these WEB find Internet E-mail / name sites http://www.Four11.com/ http://www.c2.net/~buttle/tel/ http://www.whowhere.com/ http://www.pacifier.com/~jreta EdDataFix edpaolo@nile.intac.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 13:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24381; Sat, 24 Aug 96 13:47:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id NAA08692 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 13:34:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id NAA08684 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 13:34:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuPNd-00038BC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 13:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Aaron Ezekiel, CIRT UNM" Subject: PC-Pine f/Win32 Bug Report Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 16:58:40 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On inadvertently using the right mouse button over the text of a message in my inbox, I received a program error (Close or Ignore) message which would not allow recovery, though I have in the past found that PC-Pine often did allow for program error recovery. Here's a listing of the reported details: PINE caused a general protection fault in module PINE.EXE at 000f:0000bcbc. Registers: EAX=c0010ea0 CS=122f EIP=0000bcbc EFLGS=00000246 EBX=00000bad SS=3edf ESP=0000ac76 EBP=0000acba ECX=00020001 DS=3edf ESI=00000ea0 FS=0000 EDX=81534087 ES=0000 EDI=00003f67 GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: 26 89 4f 0a 2b f6 26 89 77 10 26 89 77 0e 39 76 Stack dump: 00100d64 00100000 00100000 00000000 00290001 40870f44 58c70540 00100000 00100000 00100000 00100000 00010000 00100000 57560000 00003eff 0ee40000 The machine is a Gateway 2000 P5-66 mHz running Win95 with the Service Pack 1 applied, 16 MB RAM, lots of free disk. I can give you more details if needed. We run UW's IMAP2bis daemon on AIX 4.1.x. ****** NOTE NEW ADDRESS & PHONE ***** Aaron Ezekiel, Senior Analyst CIRT - Information Resource Center University of New Mexico 2701 Campus Blvd., #131 Albuquerque, NM 87131 ph: 505-277-8059 email: aezekiel@unm.edu fax: 505-277-8101 WWW URL: http://www.unm.edu/~aezekiel From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:13:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29301; Sat, 24 Aug 96 14:13:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id OAA13929 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:09:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id OAA13924 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:09:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuPx0-00038UC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 14:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brett Berg Subject: Encryption Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 15:40:32 -0400 Message-Id: <321E0930.2435@Sun.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there any work going on to provide encryption in Pine. If so, when will it ba available? Brett From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29489; Sat, 24 Aug 96 14:17:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id OAA09188 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:09:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id OAA09183 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:09:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuPw9-00038TC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 14:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: JENELLE+@.pitt.edu (JEN LITZ) Subject: Pine 3.94 Problems Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 15:26:20 -0400 Message-Id: Hey All, The University just upgraded to 3.94, and I am having some difficulty with it. 1) I can *ALMOST* post to newsgroups, but when I try to send it off, it tells me that no NNTP Server has been designated (I'm using NewsWatcher to post this). Now, the reason that I can read from Pine is obviously thata server has been designated. What to do? 2) Can't view a GIF file sent to me as an attatchment. I think that it's because I'm not designating the viewer properly, but I have the paths down correctly (I think) for mailcap and mime. The "Help" response says that it's not necessary to name a viewer, but it doesn't work with (e.g. "Image/GIF) or without ("No Value ...") a name. 3) My sent-mail folder is now saving my sent mail under my name, not the names of the people that I sent the messages to. This means that in some cases, I have to look through a bunch of the message bodies to find a message that I sent. Hope that someone can help. Thanks in Advance, Matt -- Matthew O. Fraser "If you can't answer a man's Department of Pharmacology arguments, all is not lost. School of Medicine You may still call him University of Pittsburgh vile names" Pittsburgh, PA 15261 mof@prophet.pharm.pitt.edu John Homans From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29072; Sat, 24 Aug 96 14:19:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id OAA09261 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:14:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id OAA09256 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:14:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuPy3-00038BC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 14:10 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Flanagan Subject: Re: Reading BinHex4.0 Messages Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:41:58 -0400 Message-Id: <321DB526.7DE1@bnl.gov> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve Lowe wrote: > > Today, I received a BinHex 4.0 message. The $64 question is how to read > the attachment. > > My platform is Digital Ultrix and Pine 3.95. Do I have to make an entry > in /etc/mailcap? Binhex is the macintosh analogue to uuencode. It is generally used to encode applications, archives, and non-ascii documents (ex. MS Word) which will likely only be useful on a mac once they are decoded. There is a unix program called 'mcvert' which will decode binhexed files. It can be obtained from http://www.shsu.edu/tex-archive/tools/mcvert/ Or any other CTAN (Comprehensive TeX Archive Network) site. Jim Flanagan Computing and Communications Brookhaven National Laboratory http://pubweb.bnl.gov/~jimfl From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29152; Sat, 24 Aug 96 14:23:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id OAA09316 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:19:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id OAA09311 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:19:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuQ3T-00038BC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 14:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: distribution lists In-Reply-To: Beth Peterson's message of Wed, 21 Aug 1996 14: 24:56 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4uh1ri$la4@samba.rahul.net> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 02:21:55 GMT In article Beth Peterson writes: On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, R wrote: | Or maybe you can send a mail to yourself, and Bcc to everyone. this will not work for what you are looking for. What will happen with this is that you will not see the list in the Bcc field when you receive the message but anyone and everyone in the Bcc filed will see anyone and everyone in the Bcc field. If you are not using version 3.93 or + then what you have to do is but the DL in the Bcc field but ALSO you have to enter in a :; in the To field. If you do have version 3.93+ the use the Lcc field. It is my understanding that any valid address in the To: field will prevent Bcc: addresses from becoming visible. Either a :; or one's own address would do. If there are instances of MTA/MUA combinations for which this is not true, I'd be interested to learn of them. To the best of my knowledge, arriving mail never has a Bcc: field at all. Again, I'd be interested to know of any instances where this is not true. Regards, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/435-2983 http://www.access.digex.net/%7Erobjen/dc-sage/bios/rick_troxel/ /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:24:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29541; Sat, 24 Aug 96 14:24:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id OAA14079 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:19:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id OAA14074 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:19:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuQ2P-00038TC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 14:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: How to forward and filter? Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:18:58 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, Malte Stien wrote: > 1. can anybody tell us how to filter incoming mails? Is there a specific > file or do we need a special external program? When true, which one can > we use? Pine does not filter incoming mail itself. You have to use some external program which filters the mail as part of the delivery process before Pine opens it. You did not say what system you are using Pine on -- Unix, VMS, DOS, etc. It makes a difference. If you are using Unix, probably the two most common programs are procmail and filter. > 2. how can you forward mail, so that all mail one person is getting are > automaticly forwarded to another user-address on the net? I've got two > hosts and I want to get all messages on both hosts. Again, it make a difference what system Pine is running on, which you did not specify. If you are using Unix, there is a .forward (note the leading period) file you can create, or procmail could do it for you. If you have a WWW browser, browse my home page, follow the link to the Pine section, and take the link to Nancy McGough's pages. She has a lot of valuable information on mail filtering and processing. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29322; Sat, 24 Aug 96 14:25:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id OAA14086 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:19:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id OAA14081 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:19:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuQ5K-00038WC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 14:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: multiple, mutually exclusive To: recipients In-Reply-To: jtr@primenet.com's message of 18 Aug 1996 09: 48:01 -0700 Message-Id: References: <4v7hg1$4mq@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 02:44:26 GMT In article <4v7hg1$4mq@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> jtr@primenet.com writes: I'd like to be able to send mail to multiple people, with each one receiving the message seemingly addressed to himself alone in the To: header. Is there a way to do this with PINE? If you are on a Unix host, you could use the shell with another mailer to accomplish this. E.g. with csh and BSD Mail, you could do something like % foreach a (`cat address.lst`) foreach? Mail -s "Desired Subject" $a < outbound.msg foreach? end Bear in mind that for large lists this could really hog resources. -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/435-2983 http://www.access.digex.net/%7Erobjen/dc-sage/bios/rick_troxel/ /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:26:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29542; Sat, 24 Aug 96 14:26:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id OAA09337 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:21:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from fish.la.asu.edu (fish.la.asu.edu [129.219.45.155]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id OAA09332 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:21:22 -0700 Message-Id: <199608242121.OAA09332@mx1.cac.washington.edu> Received: by fish.la.asu.edu (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA04615; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:22:39 -0700 From: Peter Unmack Subject: prob setting up pine on hpux9 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Sat, 24 Aug 96 14:22:38 MST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] G'day folks I'm having problems setting up pine 3.95 on a hp-ux 9. I get the following messages after issueing the build command fish:./build hpp make args are "CC=cc " Making c-client library, mtest and imapd make build SYSTYPE=non-ANSI OS=hpp echo hpp > OSTYPE rm -rf systype ln -s non-ANSI systype cd non-ANSI/c-client; make hpp make mtest OS=hpp EXTRADRIVERS="" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto MAILSPOOL=/usr/mail \ ACTIVEFILE=/usr/lib/news/active NEWSSPOOL=/usr/spool/news \ RSH=remsh RSHPATH=/usr/bin/remsh \ CFLAGS="-g -Dconst= -DNFSKLUDGE " \ RANLIB=true LDFLAGS="-lnet" ./drivers imap nntp pop3 mh tenex mtx mmdf bezerk news phile dummy rm -f CCTYPE CFLAGS LDFLAGS osdep.h echo cc > CCTYPE echo -g -Dconst= -DNFSKLUDGE > CFLAGS echo -lnet > LDFLAGS ln -s os_hpp.h osdep.h cc -g -Dconst= -DNFSKLUDGE -c mail.c cc: warning %1$s: Unknown option "%2$s%3$s" ignored. cc -g -Dconst= -DNFSKLUDGE -c bezerk.c cc: warning %1$s: Unknown option "%2$s%3$s" ignored. cc: warning %1$s: Unknown option "%2$s%3$s" ignored. cc -g -Dconst= -DNFSKLUDGE -c mtx.c cc: warning %1$s: Unknown option "%2$s%3$s" ignored. cc -g -Dconst= -DNFSKLUDGE -c tenex2.c cc: warning %1$s: Unknown option "%2$s%3$s" ignored. cc -g -Dconst= -DNFSKLUDGE -c mbox.c cc: warning %1$s: Unknown option "%2$s%3$s" ignored. cc -g -Dconst= -DNFSKLUDGE -c mh.c cc: warning %1$s: Unknown option "%2$s%3$s" ignored. cc -g -Dconst= -DNFSKLUDGE -c mmdf.c cc: warning %1$s: Unknown option "%2$s%3$s" ignored. and so on and so on until at the end I get this cc: warning %1$s: Unknown option "%2$s%3$s" ignored. cc -g -DDEBUG -Dconst= -DHPP -DSYSTYPE=\"HPP\" -DMOUSE -c send.c cc: warning %1$s: Unknown option "%2$s%3$s" ignored. cc: Internal error 5705. *** Error code 1 Stop. Links to executables are in bin directory: size: bin/pine: cannot open bin/mtest: 393062 + 32952 + 2056 = 428070 bin/imapd: 410478 + 35484 + 8232 = 454194 bin/pico: 198005 + 24576 + 5460 = 228041 bin/pilot: 196552 + 24416 + 5460 = 226428 Done fish: Does anyone have any clues what I am doing wrong here? I have already tried this several times and have redownloaded it to. Everything else except pine works (and exists) just fine. Thanks Peter J Unmack peter.unmack@asu.edu PO Box 1454 Tempe AZ 85280-1454, USA --------------------------------------------------------------- DESERT FISHES RULE: To boldly thrive where no other fish can make it! Check out the Australian desert fishes pages at http://www.utexas.edu/depts/tnhc/.www/fish/dfc/ just click on the Australian portion of the map From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20914; Sat, 24 Aug 96 14:28:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id OAA09373 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:24:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id OAA09368 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:24:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuQ9E-00038BC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 14:21 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fred Ringel Subject: Re: Encryption Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <321E0930.2435@Sun.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <321E0930.2435@Sun.COM> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 03:00:28 GMT On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, Brett Berg wrote: >Is there any work going on to provide encryption in Pine. > > The PGP (pretty Good Privacy) program has already been integrated, via several methods, with Pine. Some of them are set forth on the PGP-Users Mailing list home page and there is also a very good program which marrys the two called MKPGP. Take a look at http://www.rivertown.net/~pgp, or http://www. rivertown.net:8080 for the relevant links. Fred ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Fred B. Ringel Rivertown.Net Systems Administrator P.O. Box 532 and General Fixer-upper Hastings, New York 10706 Voice/Support: 914.478.2885 Data: 914-478-4988 PGP-Users Mailing list maintainer--http://www.rivertown.net:8080 AND Westchester's Rivertown's Full Service Flat-Rate Internet Access Provider For my PGP key, send an e-mail with the Subject: SEND-PGPKEY From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 15:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29576; Sat, 24 Aug 96 15:00:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id OAA14437 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:54:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id OAA14432 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:54:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuQad-00038BC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 14:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhd@Radix.Net (Joseph Davidson) Subject: Convert addresses between Pine, Eudora, Netscape Date: 24 Aug 1996 21:45:13 GMT Message-Id: <4vnt59$73l@news1.radix.net> Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Summary: Keywords: I have Web pages to translate the mailing lists between mailers. Eudora to Netscape Pine to Eudora Eudora to Pine Pine to Netscape You can find links to these at the bottom of my Web page at www.interguru.com -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Davidson Ph.D. InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting Computer and Network Consulting, Win 95 and Mac 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 15:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29809; Sat, 24 Aug 96 15:04:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id OAA09757 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:59:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id OAA09752 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:59:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuQfq-00038BC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 14:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Col.Brewster" Subject: Need Tin Faq Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 17:52:20 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I need to know where to find the faq for "tin". Specifically, I need to know how to change my name to something other than my real name. Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 18:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27927; Sat, 24 Aug 96 18:15:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id SAA16350 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 18:09:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.eskimo.com (mail.eskimo.com [204.122.16.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id SAA16345 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 18:09:55 -0700 Received: from eskimo.com (lemon@eskimo.com [204.122.16.13]) by mail.eskimo.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA06359 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 18:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 18:09:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Lynn Bryan To: Pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Problems Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am having a problem with garbage symbols appearing on my screen when I am comosing e-mail. It sometimes locks up the screen while it continues to string its symbols. Help. Lemon From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 18:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30991; Sat, 24 Aug 96 18:44:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id SAA16576 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 18:35:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id SAA16571 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 18:35:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuU2f-00038UC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 18:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: JENELLE+@.pitt.edu (JEN LITZ) Subject: Re: How do I view a gif file? Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 12:05:15 -0400 Message-Id: References: In article , mkamal@isx.com (Murtaza Kamal) wrote: > Hi -- I am using PC-Pine for windows ver 3.95. Everytime I rcv a gif file > pine responses by "Don't Know how to display Image/Gif Attachments; Try > Saving the file". I have following entries: > in MIMETYPE "image/gif gif", and > in MAILCAP "image/*;C:\Program Files\Accessories\MSPAINT.EXE" > > Do I need to do any other set up? How do I view the gif files or a msword > file with appropriate viewer? > > Thanks in advance. > > -- Murtaza I don't have the answer, but I have a similar problem. I am clueless as to how to solve it. Perhaps someone would tell us how to configure it from the start? Matt -- Matthew O. Fraser "If you can't answer a man's Department of Pharmacology arguments, all is not lost. School of Medicine You may still call him University of Pittsburgh vile names" Pittsburgh, PA 15261 mof@prophet.pharm.pitt.edu John Homans From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 19:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31244; Sat, 24 Aug 96 19:39:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA12655 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 19:35:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA12650 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 19:35:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuUzl-00038BC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 19:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lewycky@soho.ios.com (George) Subject: Deleting emails ?? Date: 25 Aug 1996 02:05:00 GMT Message-Id: How come when I delete the email using PINE it shows up as READ using EUDORA ? any help is appreciated George please email directly to me ========================================== George R Lewycky lewycky@soho.ios.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ TRY ME: http://soho.ios.com/~lewycky/ or http://soho.ios.com/%7Elewycky/ ****************************************** * Index of my web pages * * and where there linked from * http://soho.ios.com/~lewycky/toc.html * Internet Services * http://soho.ios.com/~lewycky/services.html ****************************************** Windows 95 = Macintosh 1989 WITH dual air bags Micro$oft is a "follower" not a leader !!!!!!! An APPLE a day keeps Bill away "I'd rather be on Titan !!" [ look at my home page to find out why ] ========================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 19:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23125; Sat, 24 Aug 96 19:49:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA17240 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 19:45:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA17235 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 19:45:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuVA9-00038BC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 19:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: timr@crl.com (Tim Rice) Subject: Re: pine3.95 compile bug - unixware 2 (easy fix) Date: 24 Aug 1996 19:38:00 -0700 Message-Id: <4voea8$m1a@crl13.crl.com> References: <321b26e4.59248474@news.dtc.net> The Wizard (wizard@mrinc.com) wrote: : There is no libx library in UnixWare 2. Remove the -lx from : pine/makefile.uw2 Where is yours? My UnixWare 2.03 has a libx. tim(trr)@trruw 1% ls -l /usr/lib/libx.a -rw-r--r-- 1 bin bin 13108 Nov 23 1994 /usr/lib/libx.a -- ----- Tim Rice Multitalents 707 887-1469 tim@trr.metro.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 20:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31495; Sat, 24 Aug 96 20:22:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA13059 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 20:15:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id UAA13054 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 20:15:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuVbv-00038BC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 20:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: Re: hiding a distribution list Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 15:05:45 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I am assuming that you have read the other replies to this message. Although I do not know exactly what the :; stands for and etc., but it does work. First of all DO NOT just put the list in the Bcc field as noted in another reply. A Bcc field does hide the list from anyone hows address is in the To field but EVERYONE in the Bcc field will see everyone else in the Bcc field unless you do put in the :; in the To field. If you are using Lcc You do not have to put anything into the To field. When done correctly Pine should automatically enter in the list name followed by the :; in the To field for you. This way when the people receive the message it will say: To: distribution list name instead of: To: Undisclosed Recipients Hope that helps a little. |Can anyone explain this to me? I checked the pine archives |and I took tha advise of past posts. I put a bogus entry in |the To: field like so: | |distribution list :; | ^^ here's the magical incantaion, right? | |and then added recipients to the Lcc: field. It seems that |it made it out to the recipient sites OK, but they couldn't |deal with the To: user supplied (i.e. the incantation). |What did I do wrong? What does that ":;" do anyway? Where |can I read up on this in some detail? By the way, I'm using |Pine3.94 precompiled Solaris 2.x binary. | |Thanks in advance. | |Richard G. Roberto |richr@bear.com |201-739-2886 - whippany, nj | | |-- |******************************************************************************* |Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or |agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account |activity contained in this communication. |******************************************************************************* | | Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 21:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19866; Sat, 24 Aug 96 21:23:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA18160 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 21:20:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id VAA18155 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 21:20:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuWcP-00038BC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 21:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jrespler@nj5.injersey.com (Jay Respler) Subject: Re: Quoting while reply... Date: 25 Aug 1996 04:07:00 GMT Message-Id: <4vojh4$2mt@news.injersey.com> References: <4vibr3$erl@bell.cs.unc.edu> > Hi all PINE gurus: > When I reply to a message, pine begins the message as... > On wrote: > Can anyone tell me if and how I can customize this line? > Thanks a lot! > - Narendra. This can be done from the setup. -- Jay Respler -- JRespler@InJersey.com or Jay.Respler@bytewise.org Satellite Tracker * Early Typewriter Collector Freehold, New Jersey From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 22:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31687; Sat, 24 Aug 96 22:14:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id WAA14178 for pine-info-out; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 22:10:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id WAA14173 for ; Sat, 24 Aug 1996 22:10:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuXSn-00038BC; Sat, 24 Aug 96 22:10 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: john boy Subject: Re: Questions Need ANSWER WILL PAY $$ for ANswer Date: 21 Aug 1996 13:50:44 GMT Message-Id: <4vf47k$fg1@news.ime.net> References: <3213CDD0.408F@ma.ultranet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, you need to invest in a good spell checker, and a dictionary. Then maybe you should take a course in English grammer, and punctuation. That is the best advice I can give you if YOU want to go into business. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 03:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01333; Sun, 25 Aug 96 03:12:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id DAA17072 for pine-info-out; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 03:00:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id DAA17067 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 03:00:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uubyS-00038BC; Sun, 25 Aug 96 02:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: sent-mail Date: 23 Aug 1996 11:43:29 -0500 Message-Id: <4vkn3h$fgj@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: <4vk2r8$d2k@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <4vk2r8$d2k@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us>, Steve Baetzner wrote: > I'm having difficulty understanding the exact purpose of "sent-mail" > funcltion. Many people find it extremely handy to be able to refer to old messages they've sent, to check to make sure they replied to a message, etc. > Why do I need to keep my "sent-mail" ? You don't. Just set default-fcc to "" in the Setup -> Config screen, and pine will quit saving outgoing email for you. Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 05:29:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02307; Sun, 25 Aug 96 05:29:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id FAA23049 for pine-info-out; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 05:21:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id FAA23044 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 05:21:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uue6x-00038BC; Sun, 25 Aug 96 05:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brianbhc@aol.com (Brianbhc) Subject: Dead in the Water Date: 24 Aug 1996 14:37:03 -0400 Message-Id: <4vni4f$594@newsbf02.news.aol.com> I'm in hot water untill I can find out why a process is in brackets. # ps -ef|grep pine root 11570 12955 0 14:34:02 pts/13 0:00 [pine] root 20788 25083 1 14:34:12 pts/17 0:00 grep pine bman 24131 12554 0 13:55:21 pts/3 0:00 [pine] It's taking over a minute for the program to appear. Brian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 05:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02352; Sun, 25 Aug 96 05:35:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id FAA18583 for pine-info-out; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 05:26:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id FAA18578 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 05:26:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uueEw-00038BC; Sun, 25 Aug 96 05:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Col.Brewster" Subject: Re: Problems Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 07:08:42 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 24 Aug 1996, Lynn Bryan wrote: > I am having a problem with garbage symbols appearing on my screen when I > am comosing e-mail. It sometimes locks up the screen while it continues to > string its symbols. Help. Lemon > > Go to the setup screen and set the "preserve-start-stop-characters" feature. That should solve the problem. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 07:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02857; Sun, 25 Aug 96 07:05:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id HAA19469 for pine-info-out; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 07:00:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from paaetms (paaetms.paaet.edu.kw [196.1.70.170]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id HAA19464 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 07:00:23 -0700 From: temeemi@paaetms.paaet.edu.kw Received: by paaetms (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA11357; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 17:03:59 -0300 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 17:03:59 -0300 (GMT) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: cut and paste In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings, How do I cut and paste between two different documents? ^K and ^U seem to work only within the same document. I'm using Pine on a Unix machine. Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 07:30:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02982; Sun, 25 Aug 96 07:30:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id HAA24173 for pine-info-out; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 07:26:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id HAA24168 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 07:26:07 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 25 AUG 96 07:24:37 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 07:24:37 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Jay Respler Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Quoting while reply... In-Reply-To: <4vojh4$2mt@news.injersey.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 25 Aug 1996, Jay Respler wrote: > > Hi all PINE gurus: > > When I reply to a message, pine begins the message as... > > On wrote: > > Can anyone tell me if and how I can customize this line? > > Thanks a lot! > > - Narendra. > > This can be done from the setup. Can you be more specific? I've looked through the setup screens & couldn't seem to find the line that controls this feature. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 07:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03027; Sun, 25 Aug 96 07:34:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id HAA24226 for pine-info-out; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 07:31:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id HAA24221 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 07:31:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uugCp-00038BC; Sun, 25 Aug 96 07:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Naor Mark Subject: Re: Formated printing from Pine Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 10:18:45 +0300 Message-Id: References: <321774B2.2925@macom.co.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Well, thnx for the answers. a2ps seems to be good for start (at least it's "Out of the Box" solution). I was tring to pass some arguments to the printing command, i.e I want the header to include the subject or the author etc. Tried few notations, Pine's "filter" notation, %s etc notation, none have worked, any ideas ? Can Pine at all "send" variable to commands like Print, Pipe etc. as it can through Pine-Filters ? Thnx, Naor On 19 Aug 1996, Nancy McGough wrote: > "Naor Mark (pcnaor)" writes: > >Does anyone know about a good troff/TeX..else script for printing emails > >from Pine? something that would make it similar to the output of > >X-mailers, instead of the straight-forward-poor-looking default printing > >of Pine ? > > If you have a postscript printer, you can use something like > enscript or nenscript, e.g. I used to use: > > nenscript -2 -G -r > > to get 2 columns, gaudy, and rotated (landscape). > > I'm also curious to hear about things other people do to get nice > looking printed messages. > > Thanks, > Nancy > > > > -- > <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< > @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ > (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) > ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 13:46:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05606; Sun, 25 Aug 96 13:46:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id NAA23890 for pine-info-out; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 13:42:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id NAA23885 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 13:42:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuly6-00038TC; Sun, 25 Aug 96 13:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: david@mail.more.net (David Drum) Subject: Pine 3.91 and Solaris 2.5 behaving oddly Date: 23 Aug 1996 20:49:30 GMT Message-Id: <4vl5gq$bmi@news.more.net> Hello everyone, I recently upgraded my freenets from Solaris 2.4 to Solaris 2.5. I performed a fresh install of the OS instead of an upgrade. I recompiled gcc 2.7.2, and recompiled pine 3.91. I am now experiencing some strange behavior in pine: 1) Users will have .pine-interrupted-mail files, 0 bytes, created in their home directories with permission 000, when they are abruptly disconnected from the system (damn modems). Pine later complains about the permissions when the user tries to resume the mail. 2) I have had unverifiable reports that pine freezes in the compose screen. I do not know if these two events occur at the same time. I would appreciate any brainstorming anyone cares to do. Regards, David K. Drum david@more.net -- "That man has a rare gift for obfuscation." -- ST:DS9 * "It's hard to be bored when you're as stupid as a line." -- Vernor Vinge * "[The building was] of no particular style of architecture except to use as much lumber as possible." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 13:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31831; Sun, 25 Aug 96 13:58:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id NAA28390 for pine-info-out; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 13:54:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.vvm.com (ns.vvm.com [204.71.94.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id NAA28385 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 13:54:14 -0700 Received: from LOCALNAME (slip156.vvm.com [204.71.94.66]) by ns.vvm.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id PAA27763; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 15:57:04 -0500 Message-Id: <3220D9C6.35DF@vvm.com> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 15:55:02 -0700 From: Phil Weaver X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: UW Email Robot Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: this is a recording (last changed May 23 13:05) References: <9608250448.AA02211@docserver.cac.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit See my note at the bottom of the message. The bottom line isw you have the wrong address. Don't send me any more email, please. I never heard of pune. Thanks. UW Email Robot wrote: > > You have reached an email robot at the University of Washington > operated on behalf of the Pine development team. > > If you'd like to let the team know what you think about Pine or make a > suggestion that might help improve it, please feel free to send a note > to: pine@cac.washington.edu > > Your comments are appreciated, but it is impossible to answer every > message so please don't expect a response unless you are part of the > University of Washington community. > > If you have a question, please check the Pine Frequently Asked Question > (FAQ) list, which you can obtain by sending a message to the Pine FAQ > robot, at: pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu > You may also post an inquiry to the world-wide "comp.mail.pine" Usenet > news group, or send a message to: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > which will do the same thing. > > Finally, if you have World Wide Web access, the URL for the Pine > Information Center is: > > http://www.washington.edu/pine > > Thanks for your interest in Pine! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 15:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06403; Sun, 25 Aug 96 15:37:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id PAA29418 for pine-info-out; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 15:32:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id PAA29413 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 15:32:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuneo-00038BC; Sun, 25 Aug 96 15:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mitch Subject: Sorry: I had to try it! Message-Id: <3220A8AA.5CAD@you.probably.already.know> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 13:25:30 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- I am really sorry about my SPAM. I didn't realize how wrong it was. Other's articles seemed convincing and legal, but I guess not. Please disregard posting: "I had to try it!" (delete it if your a system administrator). My mistake. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 15:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06587; Sun, 25 Aug 96 15:59:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id PAA29641 for pine-info-out; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 15:51:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id PAA29636 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 15:51:12 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 25 AUG 96 15:49:42 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 15:49:42 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: Pine & Newsgroups Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've been a faithful user of TIN newsreader for several years & I'm trying to appreciate the value of an "all-in-one" package like Pine 3.95. Is there a way to "catchup" (i.e. a global delete command) in any one newsgroup without having to individually delete each posting? TIA. ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 16:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06626; Sun, 25 Aug 96 16:00:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id PAA29706 for pine-info-out; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 15:57:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id PAA29701 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 15:57:38 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 25 AUG 96 15:56:07 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 15:56:07 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: "You Have Mail" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Has anyone figured out why this message occasionally appears when exiting Pine even if you have no new mail? Sometimes I get it and sometimes I don't. When I do receive the message, I go back into Pine but never find new mail, so I exit the program and the message disappears. Another one of those random things? ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 17:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07236; Sun, 25 Aug 96 17:10:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id RAA00588 for pine-info-out; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 17:04:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sputter1.fullerton.edu (Sputter1.Fullerton.EDU [137.151.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id RAA00583 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 17:04:48 -0700 From: root@sputter1.fullerton.edu Received: from localhost by sputter1.fullerton.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA08332; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 16:35:27 -0700 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 16:35:27 -0700 (PDT) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: only su or root can send mail Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just built pine3.95 on an old RS6000 using AIX 3.2. I find that I can read mail just fine if I'm an ordinary user, but I can send mail only if I log in as root or the superuser.... I probably need to set something in a configuration file, but can't find the info. Any suggestions? Thanks for your help. Dr. Mark H. Shapiro Physics Department California State University, Fullerton Fullerton, California 92634 Phone: ++ (714) 773-3884 Fax: ++ (714) 449-5810 e-mail: mshapiro@fullerton.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 17:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01900; Sun, 25 Aug 96 17:30:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id RAA26240 for pine-info-out; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 17:20:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from admin.aurora.edu (admin.aurora.edu [192.203.224.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id RAA26228 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 17:20:56 -0700 Received: by admin.aurora.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA04289; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 19:25:39 -0500 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 19:25:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Lowe To: Pine Information List Subject: Eliminiating Extra Message Headers Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII After about using Pine Mail for over two years, I checked some of my folders using the vi editor. Obviously, PINE saves each message including the full headers. Is there an easy way to configure PINE not to save the 'Received: ' header? Thanks in advance. -- Steve Lowe Aurora University slowe@admin.aurora.edu 708 844 5290 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 17:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07461; Sun, 25 Aug 96 17:41:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id RAA00905 for pine-info-out; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 17:34:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from necro.interl.net (pm2-adr26.interl.net [205.244.161.26]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id RAA00900 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 17:34:37 -0700 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA00865 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 19:34:36 -0500 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 19:34:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Englander To: pine-info Subject: Passing pop password? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mainly as a test - because I'm already using popclient, I was wondering if there was a way to pass the username and password for my 'POP3 Mail' folder. When I select this folder: incoming-folders="POP3 Mail" {mailhost.interl.net/pop3}INBOX ...I have to manually enter my username and password (which is a major pain in the arce to type repeatedly - one of those alphanumeric half-caps, half-not ones). Is there some 'dotfile' I can use or can I add something to .pinerc to automagically pass my username and password? Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMiDw/SGB07hAGnFhAQH4wQP+Lg5rZUliu09Varb4tmmMW8+k9j0uF60W +7M2nnfYYBzGb3GoHhxXPYDN65j3yYgWCHnRTEqIgB/M4YEErlbTPczJTVqovgyP GqDb25OQbpGi99qvS00JLx0EbTRTbqRPEGOquySPame28lgEejpJinsDRKfD6vcs V2KH3r2y1A8= =wBVz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jason Englander -=- Burlington, IA - USA E-mail: jasoneng@interl.net, necrojason@geocities.com WWW: http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ PGP-Key: send mail with subject: "get-pgp-key" =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 22:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28688; Sun, 25 Aug 96 22:24:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id WAA04147 for pine-info-out; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 22:15:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id WAA04142 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 22:15:02 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 25 AUG 96 22:13:30 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 22:13:30 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone know what's going on behind the scenes when the message appears at the bottom of the screen? I've had it happen a couple of times where I was stuck for over 15 minutes waiting for the message to disappear so that I could continue reading mail or news. This seems like a long time for a system to be "Busy" so old Curious George here would like to know what might be happening during this time. ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 23:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09085; Sun, 25 Aug 96 23:07:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id XAA29981 for pine-info-out; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 23:03:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id XAA29976 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 23:03:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuuhk-00038BC; Sun, 25 Aug 96 22:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: snowhare@xmission.com Control: cancel <321FD259.53CD@my.home.address> Subject: cmsg cancel <321FD259.53CD@my.home.address> Date: 25 Aug 96 06:07:33 GMT Message-Id: Spam Cancellation. For details see news.admin.net-abuse.announce From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 23:48:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10187; Sun, 25 Aug 96 23:48:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id XAA05081 for pine-info-out; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 23:44:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gaudi.gc.cuny.edu (gaudi.gc.cuny.edu [146.96.64.20]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id XAA05076 for ; Sun, 25 Aug 1996 23:44:28 -0700 Received: from broadway.gc.cuny.edu (broadway.gc.cuny.edu) by GAUDI.GC.CUNY.EDU (PMDF V5.0-5 #13310) id <01I8PS8IFBXS000YN6@GAUDI.GC.CUNY.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 02:44:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (eschwar1@localhost) by broadway.gc.cuny.edu (8.7.5/ank-osf96) with SMTP id CAA30751 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 02:44:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 02:44:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Schwartz Subject: Access to Newsgroups To: Pine Info Message-Id: Content-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-60080473-841041447=:30510" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-60080473-841041447=:30510 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Many of the newsgroups that are accessible through Pine contain postings which are cross-posted to newsgroups that Pine claims it can't find and which are not on the list of newsgroups that one can subscribe to through Pine, such as, for example, "alt.culture.indian". Why is this so, and how can I access these usenet groups? Sincerely, Eric Schwartz --0-60080473-841041447=:30510-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 00:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10606; Mon, 26 Aug 96 00:58:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id AAA05859 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 00:48:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id AAA05854 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 00:48:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuwLG-00038BC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 00:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Schwartz Subject: Access to Newsgroups Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 02:52:05 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-60080473-841041447=:30510" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-60080473-841041447=:30510 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Many of the newsgroups that are accessible through Pine contain postings which are cross-posted to newsgroups that Pine claims it can't find and which are not on the list of newsgroups that one can subscribe to through Pine, such as, for example, "alt.culture.indian". Why is this so, and how can I access these usenet groups? Sincerely, Eric Schwartz --0-60080473-841041447=:30510-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 01:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10798; Mon, 26 Aug 96 01:33:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA06300 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 01:29:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id BAA06295 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 01:29:26 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59:24/EUnetD-2.5.4.c) via EUnet id KAA21035; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 10:29:06 +0200 Message-Id: <199608260826.KAA03935@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id KAA03935; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 10:26:35 +0200 From: Rudolf Kompf Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 10:22:26 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: kompf@m_post.ife-le.de To: Steve Lowe Cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: Eliminiating Extra Message Headers In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 25 Aug 1996, Steve Lowe wrote: -> -> After about using Pine Mail for over two years, I checked some of my -> folders using the vi editor. Obviously, PINE saves each message including -> the full headers. -> -> Is there an easy way to configure PINE not to save the 'Received: ' -> header? -> -> Thanks in advance. -> -> -- Steve Lowe -> Aurora University slowe@admin.aurora.edu -> 708 844 5290 -> All folders have full headers. Use E(xport) to a file to eliminate full header information. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 03:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11947; Mon, 26 Aug 96 03:28:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id DAA07503 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 03:23:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id DAA07498 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 03:23:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuyoj-00038UC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 03:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Marking Text Date: 25 Aug 1996 05:56:46 GMT Message-Id: <4vopuu$k90@star.epix.net> References: <4vmnhb$eoj@herald.concentric.net> Leroy Brown (Macvsog@cris.com) wrote: : Linda Emerson (lindae@mlode.com) wrote: : : On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, Andrea Gonzales wrote: : : > Are you hittin ^^ or ^6...^6 is the propper one. : : I'm hitting Ctrl-^ just like the command indicates. : While holding down the shift and control keys, hit the 6 key twice. You : should see a messge on the bottom of the screen saying "Mark Set". The correct command is control+shift+6 (all 3 keys at the same time) ... if that doesn't work on your system try Esc Esc ^ (that's escape, then escape again, then shift+6). Either one of these only sets the beginning mark, then you scroll down to where you want to end before hitting ^K (control+k) to delete the blocked text (or whatever other command you want to apply to the blocked text). Hope this helps. BYE. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 04:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12302; Mon, 26 Aug 96 04:18:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id EAA03526 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 04:08:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id EAA03521 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 04:08:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uuzWP-00038BC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 04:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: hiding a distribution list Date: 26 Aug 1996 00:52:26 -0500 Message-Id: <4vre2q$1j8@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article , Beth Peterson wrote: > I am assuming that you have read the other replies to this message. > Although I do not know exactly what the :; stands for and etc., but it does > work. First of all DO NOT just put the list in the Bcc field as noted in > another reply. A Bcc field does hide the list from anyone hows address is in > the To field but EVERYONE in the Bcc field will see everyone else in the Bcc > field unless you do put in the :; in the To field. If you are using Lcc You > do not have to put anything into the To field. When done correctly Pine > should automatically enter in the list name followed by the :; in the To field > for you. This way when the people receive the message it will say: > > To: distribution list name > instead of: > To: Undisclosed Recipients > > Hope that helps a little. The procedure as described above and in the FAQ also does not work completely for me using pine 3.91 and sendmail 8.7.5. We're still using 3.91 on our main hosts until a later version of pine is more stable. When I go through the procedure outlined in the FAQ and above (put :; in the To: field and put the other recipients in the Bcc: field) I get: 1) the message is delivered to all the people in the Bcc: field, with a To: field of : ; or : ;@hostname.FQDN the Bcc: field is (of course) not part of the delivered headers. 2) the message *also* bounces, and postmaster and I receive a copy, with sendmail complaining: ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 553 : ;... list:; syntax illegal for recipient addresses If I leave the To: field blank, the message is delivered correctly, there is no bounce, and the Bcc: field still is not part of the delivered headers. Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 04:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12448; Mon, 26 Aug 96 04:34:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id EAA08432 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 04:29:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id EAA08425 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 04:29:18 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59:24/EUnetD-2.5.4.c) via EUnet id NAA17099; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 13:29:09 +0200 Message-Id: <199608261126.NAA06561@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id NAA06561; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 13:26:40 +0200 From: Rudolf Kompf Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 10:56:22 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: kompf@m_post.ife-le.de To: mof@prophet.pharm.pitt.edu Cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: Pine 3.94 Problems In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, JEN LITZ wrote: -> Hey All, -> -> The University just upgraded to 3.94, and I am having some difficulty with it. -> -> 1) I can *ALMOST* post to newsgroups, but when I try to send it off, it -> tells me that no NNTP Server has been designated (I'm using NewsWatcher to -> post this). Now, the reason that I can read from Pine is obviously thata -> server has been designated. What to do? -> -> 2) Can't view a GIF file sent to me as an attatchment. I think that it's -> because I'm not designating the viewer properly, but I have the paths down -> correctly (I think) for mailcap and mime. The "Help" response says that -> it's not necessary to name a viewer, but it doesn't work with (e.g. -> "Image/GIF) or without ("No Value ...") a name. -> -> 3) My sent-mail folder is now saving my sent mail under my name, not the -> names of the people that I sent the messages to. This means that in some -> cases, I have to look through a bunch of the message bodies to find a -> message that I sent. -> -> Hope that someone can help. -> -> Thanks in Advance, -> -> Matt -> -> -- -> Matthew O. Fraser "If you can't answer a man's -> Department of Pharmacology arguments, all is not lost. -> School of Medicine You may still call him -> University of Pittsburgh vile names" -> Pittsburgh, PA 15261 -> mof@prophet.pharm.pitt.edu John Homans -> I'm using this in my ~/.mailcap file: # The following line causes the xv program to be used to display all # image types if the DISPLAY variable is set (indicating the user is # using X). (xv is written by John Bradley, bradley@cis.upenn.edu. There # are also other X image viewer programs you could use, such as xloadimage.) image/*; xv %s; test=test -n "$DISPLAY" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 04:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11872; Mon, 26 Aug 96 04:35:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id EAA08437 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 04:29:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id EAA08427 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 04:29:24 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59:24/EUnetD-2.5.4.c) via EUnet id NAA17104; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 13:29:11 +0200 Message-Id: <199608261126.NAA06564@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id NAA06564; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 13:26:40 +0200 From: Rudolf Kompf Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 11:20:45 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: kompf@m_post.ife-le.de To: Bryan Stack Cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: Multiple address books In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, Bryan Stack wrote: -> I know I may be missing something obvious, but I haven't been able to -> figure out how to configure PINE to use multiple address books. The -> documentation says it can be done, but doesn't seem to tell how to do it. -> Any suggestions, either how to do it or where I should be looking? -> -> Bryan Stack -> mailto:bstack@creighton.edu -> Go to `Setup-Configure' and use A(dd) in the address-book line. You are prompted to override the standard ~/.addressbook with a new filename or add a new filename. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 09:49:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14540; Mon, 26 Aug 96 08:45:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id IAA06943 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 08:40:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id IAA06938 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 08:40:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uv3hP-00038BC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 08:35 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Pine & Newsgroups Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 10:21:38 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 25 Aug 1996, Linda Emerson wrote: > I've been a faithful user of TIN newsreader for several years & I'm trying > to appreciate the value of an "all-in-one" package like Pine 3.95. Is > there a way to "catchup" (i.e. a global delete command) in any one > newsgroup without having to individually delete each posting? Yes. Go into your configuration and ensure that aggregate commands are enabled. Then simply open the newsgroup and enter the key sequence ; A A D This will delete every posting in the newsgroup as of that time and bring your .newsrc file current. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 10:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18005; Mon, 26 Aug 96 10:02:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA08874 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 09:54:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA08869 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 09:54:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uv4u8-00038BC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 09:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: Re: forward (fwd) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 14:43:44 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I believe I am as confused as Ed is. If a message WAS forwarded to you in the index of a folder any message that was forwarded will have the subject with (fwd) at the end of it. When you did a whereis were you in the folder index or in an actual message? If you were in the index and it said found on line 4 it is telling you that the data you typed in was found on line four of the screen. So go to line 4 that should be the message that you are looking for. Another thing that you can try is to do a whereis on the person who sent you the message this way you can look at all the messages from that person and find the forwarded message that way. Are you sure that you are looking in the right folder? That's the best that I can do to help. On 11 Aug 1996, Steve Baetzner wrote: |Can't seem to locate the forwarded text that was sent to me. Tried |"Whereis" which gave me a line "found on line 4" after I entered the |subject of the forwarded post. Then I tried the "Fwd" key and that only |gave me the forward a message (outgkoing). What I need to know is where |do I find a forwarded message to me? I think this guy whould have |"attached" these text files rather than "forwarded " them. I suspect they |are lost. Thanks for any help. | |STEVE BAETZNER | | | Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 11:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20401; Mon, 26 Aug 96 11:14:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id LAA15676 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 11:04:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id LAA15666 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 11:04:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uv5xi-00038TC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 11:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@euler.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: How to get a list of the newsgroups? Date: 21 Aug 1996 23:15:35 GMT Message-Id: References: <4vfgne$ocv@rain.psg.com> luomat@nerc.com (Timothy J. Luoma): > My ISP claims to have added new newsgroups. > How can I find out what they are using PINE (3.95)? > I don't see any features which relate to this. Pine has an "email" feature. Send an "email" to postmaster@nerc.com ! Ask him about those new newsgroups. And for a copy of the netiquette. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 11:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20758; Mon, 26 Aug 96 11:39:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id LAA16244 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 11:29:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id LAA16239 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 11:29:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uv6MY-00038VC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 11:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Pierre-Luc Bisaillion Subject: INBOX.lock problem: can't read my mail! Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 11:29:09 +0300 Message-Id: <321C1A55.3AAB@ee.mcgill.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! I am using PINE 3.91 on a UNIX machine, and for two days I haven't been able to get any mail. I am not sure if the problem is directly related to PINE, but any help would be greatly appreciated! (I have asked the admin here, but he couldn't fix the problem...) Here are the symptoms: * I can't receive mail (!!!) * I can open PINE, and view the same INBOX as two days ago. Never any new message (and some have been sent). I can browse through all my folders. * I can send mail * When I try to quit PINE, it freezes! Then a $USER.lock file is created in the directory where my INBOX is, i.e. /usr/mail/bizz.lock. I can delete it but PINE stays frozen and I have to kill the process. * I looked at the .pine-debug files, and I have found this suspicious line: IMAP 11:16 8/22 mm_log babble: Find of mailbox outside context: /u/tlt/bizz/.pine-interrupted-mail Any ideas? Any comments/ideas/suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thank you very much! -- Pierre-Luc ************************************************************************** Pierre-Luc Bisaillon /\ bizz@tiltux.hut.fi \/ Communications Laboratory homepage: /\ Helsinki University of Technology http://www.ee.mcgill.ca/~bizz \/ Espoo, Finland ************************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 11:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21009; Mon, 26 Aug 96 11:39:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id LAA11506 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 11:29:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id LAA11501 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 11:29:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uv6MQ-00038BC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 11:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tulpule@cs.unc.edu (Narendra Tulpule) Subject: Quoting while reply... Date: 22 Aug 1996 15:18:59 -0400 Message-Id: <4vibr3$erl@bell.cs.unc.edu> Hi all PINE gurus: When I reply to a message, pine begins the message as... On wrote: Can anyone tell me if and how I can customize this line? Thanks a lot! - Narendra. -- ================================================================ Naren / email:tulpule@cs.unc.edu / 919-962-1937(office)/ SN039. http://www.cs.unc.edu/~tulpule talk:tulpule@boulanger.cs.unc.edu ================================================================ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 12:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18633; Mon, 26 Aug 96 12:24:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA17254 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 12:14:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from STL3.lcmsois.org (stl3.lcmsois.org [207.92.237.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id MAA17249 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 12:14:27 -0700 Received: from [207.92.237.114] (207.92.237.114) by lcms.org (PMDF V5.0-7 #15651) id <01I8QGBUQEMO91W4QC@lcms.org> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 14:14:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 14:14:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Larry Wahlers Subject: VMS Help! To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-X-Sender: wahlers@stl3.lcmsois.org I am the System Administrator for our PMDF installation. I have just downloaded PC-Pine from your site. I can send mail (as you can see!), read newmail sent to me, but I cannot see the folders that are set up in VMS mail already. And, if I add a folder in PC-Pine, it doesn't show up in VMS mail. We are also running PMDF Pine, and would like our PC users to start using PC-Pine. Help, please! Larry Wahlers From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 14:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23556; Mon, 26 Aug 96 14:59:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id OAA16241 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 14:50:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id OAA16230 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 14:50:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uv9XP-00038BC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 14:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mitch Subject: cmsg cancel <3220A8AA.5CAD@you.probably.already.know> Control: cancel <3220A8AA.5CAD@you.probably.already.know> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 13:25:30 -0600 Message-Id: Spam cancelled by Peter Simons . From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26780; Mon, 26 Aug 96 16:18:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA23045 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:15:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA23040 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:15:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvAoJ-00038BC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 16:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brianbhc@aol.com (Brianbhc) Subject: Problems persists.... Date: 26 Aug 1996 16:42:11 -0400 Message-Id: <4vt273$b50@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Thanks to the folks who responded...but...the problems persists, after the pine command is issued the user is faced with over a minute delay before the Pine screen is displayed. The process is in brackets as shown: $ ps -ef|grep pine bman 11737 10300 1 16:32:52 pts/16 0:00 grep pine root 20652 12420 0 16:23:06 pts/12 0:00 [pine] $ ps gu|grep pine bman 11739 0.0 0.0 76 120 pts/16 S 16:33:01 0:00 grep pine root 20652 0.0 4.0 440 1600 pts/12 S 16:23:06 0:00 [pine] As you can see the cpu and memory seems fine. One of the responses was: >Well, it seems that either the ps command or pine itself has some >problems. >Here is the part of ps's man-page: > ... > With the -f flag, the ps command determines what the command name > and parameters were when the process was created, by examining > memory or the paging area. If the ps command cannot find this > information, the command name stored in the kernel is displayed > in square brackets. > ... Pine may be having difficulty starting, I have heard that pine can use a lot of memory if the Inbox folder is very large. Check your paging space with 'lsps -a', a program will be slow to start if it has to get hold of a lot of memory that isn't very available. But a lsps -a command reveals this: $ lsps -a Page Space Physical Volume Volume Group Size %Used Active Auto Type hd6 hdisk0 rootvg 64MB 55 yes yes lv I currently hiding in a small cupboard, trying to stay clear of all users. Thank god for portables...but my battery is dying. Many Thanks........ Brian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:20:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26592; Mon, 26 Aug 96 16:20:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA18342 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:15:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA18337 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:15:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvAqj-00038TC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 16:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sam Vilain Subject: Variable .sig Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 12:57:20 +1200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do I set up a random .sig file (ie from a list of quotes)? >:-P Sam Vilain, dionysus@sans.vuw.ac.nz ...And on the seventh day, He connected to the WWW and did nothing... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13089; Mon, 26 Aug 96 16:23:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA23185 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:20:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA23180 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:20:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvAtc-00038TC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 16:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Arrow keys not working properly Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 10:27:08 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4uqghi$8km@test-sun.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4uqghi$8km@test-sun.erols.com> On 13 Aug 1996, MATHER wrote: > My arrow keys are not working properly, and since the installation > otherwise was no problem, I have no idea how to fix this. Can anyone > offer any suggestions, PLEASE! Unfortunately, you have not provided nearly enough information for people on this group to be able to help you. There are many different factors that could be involved, depending on your hardware and software setup, all different. If you are in an installation (such as a university or corporate environment) which has a help desk or information center, you should give them a call first, as they are much more likely to be familiar with your configuration than we are. We simply do not have adequate information to work from. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26943; Mon, 26 Aug 96 16:24:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA18482 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:20:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA18468 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:20:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvAtD-00038BC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 16:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Col.Brewster" Subject: Re: Pine & Newsgroups Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 10:21:52 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 25 Aug 1996, Linda Emerson wrote: > I've been a faithful user of TIN newsreader for several years & I'm trying > to appreciate the value of an "all-in-one" package like Pine 3.95. Is > there a way to "catchup" (i.e. a global delete command) in any one > newsgroup without having to individually delete each posting? Go to the setup screen and set enable-aggregate-command-set. Hit ";" to bring up the aggregate commands. Then hit "A" to select all articles. Then hit "A" to apply a command to the selected articles. Select "D" to delete the articles which is the same as marking them as read since you can't really delete a article from a usenet group. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:26:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26597; Mon, 26 Aug 96 16:26:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA18494 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:21:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA18489 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:21:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvAuL-00038VC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 16:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jason@oit.co.uk (Jason Haar) Subject: IMAP not caching folder listings? Date: 26 Aug 1996 14:59:26 GMT Message-Id: Hi there Over dialup PPP, IMAP gives better responsiveness than running pine on the remote host - except that it looks to me that pine only asks for information about enough messages to fill the current page. Now this is understandable, but are there plans to make it a bit more intelligent - say download more msg headers in the background, or at least cache them so that it doesn't go off and ask for the same ones again? (You see it easiest when moving up/down a folder listing - when you move beyond the last msg, pine freezes and it looks like IMAP goes and asks for the entire screens-worth of msgs again - not even just the single new one). -- Cheers, +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Jason Haar, Unix/Internet Manager OiT, Oxford. Phone: +44 1865 785051 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11659; Mon, 26 Aug 96 16:27:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA23215 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:21:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA23210 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:21:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvAu2-00038UC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 16:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Col.Brewster" Subject: Upload command Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 10:25:16 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone know how to use pine upload command? I read the help file for it and it allows you transfer a file from your computer into a message you are composing. What value do I use for this command in the setup area? Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 17:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27760; Mon, 26 Aug 96 17:08:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id RAA24249 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 17:04:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id RAA24227 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 17:04:09 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 27 Aug 96 08:08:57 +0800 Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 08:01:19 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "Col.Brewster" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Upload command In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 26 Aug 1996, Col.Brewster wrote: > Does anyone know how to use pine upload command? I read the help file for > it and it allows you transfer a file from your computer into a message you > are composing. What value do I use for this command in the setup area? It depends on what file transfer protocol is in use by the communications SW you are using. Have you used your comm SW to upload/download files to the U*IX host (w/o pine)? If so, the command that you issued on the U*IX host to "prep" it for the xfer is what you'd put in the setup for the "upload" command. Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 17:45:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28341; Mon, 26 Aug 96 17:45:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id RAA24975 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 17:40:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id RAA24968 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 17:40:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvCA6-00038BC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 17:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Saving Attachment to C Drive Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 20:43:52 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4veuj4$lt0@news.ios.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4veuj4$lt0@news.ios.com> On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Edward M. DeSear wrote: > How do I move an attachment (a .jpg file) from my UNIX shell to a > directory on my c drive? Unfortunately, there is no single answer to your question, because it all depends on what software you are using to connect your (MS-DOS, I presume) PC to your Un*x shell account -- and what software is installed on your Un*x system. Check to see if 'sz' is available on your Un*x system and if your PC communications software supports 'zmodem' protocol. If so you can use zmodem file tranfer, which is one of the better ones, but again, the exact details will vary from software package to software package. You may need to read the Un*x man page for sz and your comm software manual. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 17:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27035; Mon, 26 Aug 96 17:53:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id RAA20291 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 17:50:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id RAA20286 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 17:50:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvCKb-00038TC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 17:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: X-Reply-To in Pine? Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 20:48:35 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4vg25a$kbp@magus.cs.utah.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4vg25a$kbp@magus.cs.utah.edu> On 21 Aug 1996, Craig R. Ruefenacht wrote: > Does anyone know if Pine supports the X-Reply-To (or Reply-To) > header? I am trying to get Pine to use this header for the > address to reply to when I reply to mail, [...] You can add the Reply-To: header yourself. From the Pine main menu, just go into Setup and Config. Scroll down to customized-hdrs: and add the header you want. That should do it. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 18:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24620; Mon, 26 Aug 96 18:17:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id SAA25489 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 18:14:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from us.itd.umich.edu (stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu [141.211.164.7]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id SAA25484 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 18:14:31 -0700 Received: from localhost by us.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id VAA15000; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 21:14:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 21:14:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Nicholas J. Farrell" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine question Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello! I am a computer consultant at the University of Michigan and I am attempting to help a user who is running Pine on a VAX system. When they try to send mail by pressing control-x, it asks them "Send Message?" and the respond by pressing 'y'. However, the next thing that happens is that a message comes up saying, "Mail not sent ACP file creation failed." Then they are kicked back to the message they were trying to send. ANy ideas? What is an acp file? Thanks. Nick njf@umich.edu ______________________________________________________________________________ Nicholas J. Farrell University of Michigan E-mail: njf@umich.edu Information Technology Division Voice: 313-669-0245 Sites Consultant Online Consultant Phones Consultant http://www-personal.umich.edu/~clukasik ______________________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 18:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27963; Mon, 26 Aug 96 18:27:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id SAA25583 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 18:20:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id SAA25572 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 18:20:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvCl6-00038BC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 18:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sorcer@global.california.com (Mark) Subject: How do I move mail from Pine to my hard drive? Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 07:56:23 GMT Message-Id: <321e4883.0@seashell.california.com> I have a multi-attachment message stuck in my Pine inbox on my BBS and have been unable to export it to my hard drive. The export command says a copy of the message was created in some file (call it "temp")--but I can't find this file. Obviously, I don't know what the heck I'm doing--but the instructions (?) for carrying out the export are terse at best. This must be a simple task, which is why I am all the more frustrated. Any tips? Thanks! --Mark From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 18:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29138; Mon, 26 Aug 96 18:48:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id SAA26018 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 18:45:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id SAA26013 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 18:45:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvD8h-00038TC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 18:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Vivek Subramanian Subject: Re: [Q] Non-pine Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 07:12:57 -0700 Message-Id: <321DBC69.7C0F@leland.stanford.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Don Sugarman wrote: > > Re: Gateway2000 P5-75 > > Can someone point me to a resource (newsgroup, listserv, etc.) for > Gateway2000 users or other appropriate subject? I'm trying to identify > the cause of an intermittent hardware malfunction? > > TIA, > > Don Sugarman > sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com Try alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000. Vivek. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 18:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28521; Mon, 26 Aug 96 18:48:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id SAA21212 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 18:45:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id SAA21207 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 18:45:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvD8f-00038BC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 18:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brianbhc@aol.com (Brianbhc) Subject: [pine] Date: 22 Aug 1996 23:00:02 -0400 Message-Id: <4vj6ri$keu@newsbf02.news.aol.com> It's taking about two minutes after the pine is selected by a user until it appears on their screen. A ps of the process show the command in brackets like so: $ ps -ef|grep pine bman 16877 29162 0 22:57:30 pts/3 0:00 [pine] bman 27120 29422 0 22:57:41 pts/0 0:00 grep pine I've never seen the brackets before..... help. Brian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 18:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25246; Mon, 26 Aug 96 18:48:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id SAA21225 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 18:45:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id SAA21220 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 18:45:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvD8k-00038UC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 18:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joshua Paluch Subject: newsreading Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:12:19 -0700 Message-Id: <321DD862.1D6D3370@bonsai.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Group, I've checked the faq I just don't know the what to call this: I've appartently changed something in setup the makes any messages I send to myself or local newsgroups show up in the folder like this: N 10 Aug 23 To: josh@bonsai.com (3,444) How to ... as opposed to: N 10 Aug 23 Josh Paluch (3,444) How to... Any solutions????? thanx in advance, ps don't get to access this newgroup very often, could ya be so kind as to mail reply.  From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:09:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29220; Mon, 26 Aug 96 19:09:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA21482 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:05:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA21477 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:05:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvDUn-00038TC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 19:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: distribution lists Date: 26 Aug 1996 01:29:12 -0500 Message-Id: <4vrg7o$3ej@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: <4uh1ri$la4@samba.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article , Rick Troxel wrote: > In article > Beth Peterson writes: > On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, R wrote: > > | Or maybe you can send a mail to yourself, and Bcc to everyone. > > this will not work for what you are looking for. What will happen > with this is that you will not see the list in the Bcc field when you > receive the message but anyone and everyone in the Bcc filed will see > anyone and everyone in the Bcc field. If you are not using version > 3.93 or + then what you have to do is but the DL in the Bcc field but > ALSO you have to enter in a :; in the To field. If you do have > version 3.93+ the use the Lcc field. > > It is my understanding that any valid address in the To: field will > prevent Bcc: addresses from becoming visible. Either a :; or one's own > address would do. If there are instances of MTA/MUA combinations for > which this is not true, I'd be interested to learn of them. This is my experience too. In addition, as I've posted in other threads using the :; trick hasn't worked for me with sendmail 8.7.5 and pine 3.91 -- the message is delivered to the recipients in the Bcc: field and they can't see anything they shouldn't, but the message also bounces with the following error from sendmail: 553 : ;... list:; syntax illegal for recipient addresses > To the best of my knowledge, arriving mail never has a Bcc: field at > all. Again, I'd be interested to know of any instances where this is > not true. I've found one case where there is a bcc: (not Bcc:) header added to a message, but it's blank. With pine 3.91, I activated rich headers, left the To: blank, and filled in the Bcc: field with my own address on the local machine multiple times. I received one copy of the message (as expected, sendmail didn't send multiple copies), and it contained a bcc: field, with no one listed. That was somewhat unexpected. Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29283; Mon, 26 Aug 96 19:10:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA26296 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:05:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA26291 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:05:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvDUK-00038BC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 19:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: Question about Blind Carbon Copy Date: 26 Aug 1996 01:20:10 -0500 Message-Id: <4vrfmq$3ea@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: <4utiip$rj@mozz.unh.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article , Zachary H Leber wrote: > Put yourself as the To: recipient and the list as the Bcc: recipient > (exposed with Ctrl-R). This is the only way that is guaranteed to work, Agreed. As I posted in another thread, with pine 3.91 and sendmail 8.7.5, using a :; in the To: field and putting the real recipients in the Bcc: field works mostly, but although the message is correctly delivered to the Bcc: recipients a bounce is generated by sendmail. > despite what advice you get about dummy fields and Lcc, which are not > supported by all mailers in my experience. Mine too. Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29629; Mon, 26 Aug 96 19:44:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA26784 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:40:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA26779 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:40:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvE4n-00038BC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 19:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dean Pentcheff Subject: Re: Automated List Server for Pine. Date: 23 Aug 1996 04:53:46 -0400 Message-Id: References: fwp@vcn.bc.ca (Franklin Wayne Poley) writes: > Do you think it would be possible to write a sub-program for Pine which > would read incoming mail, recognize Distribution List names from the > subject line and automatically mail out to all on those Dist. lists? I > have been told Eudora Pro and Pegasus have similar features. > -W. Poley. The program exists, but it will never be a sub-program of Pine. Pine is a "mail user agent", meaning it's a program you fire off to read and write your mail (and news). It does not redistribute mail. Even when you send mail with Pine, it just hands off the completed mail message to another program for processing and delivery. What you want could pretty easily be achieved using "procmail", a commonly installed (on Unix systems, anyway) mail processing program. You can get some information on it (and on mail processing in general) at: . -Dean -- N. Dean Pentcheff WWW: http://tbone.biol.sc.edu/~dean/ Biological Sciences, Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29208 (803-777-3936) PGP ID=768/22A1A015 Keyprint=2D 53 87 53 72 4A F2 83 A0 BF CB C0 D1 0E 76 C0 Get PGP keys and information with the command: "finger dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29241; Mon, 26 Aug 96 19:44:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA21954 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:40:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA21949 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:40:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvE4n-00038VC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 19:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@neumann.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Send Netiquette Date: 23 Aug 1996 21:32:15 GMT Message-Id: References: <4vhnog$bk6@rain.psg.com> kompf@ife-le.de (Rudolf Kompf): > Who would me send a new version of 'Netiquette'? Since you can read news - why not get it off news.answers? Subject: Emily Postnews Answers Your Questions on Netiquette Newsgroups: news.announce.newusers,news.answers From: netannounce@deshaw.com (Mark Moraes) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 08:00:14 GMT Followup-To: news.newusers.questions Lines: 532 HTH. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29656; Mon, 26 Aug 96 19:44:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA26794 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:40:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA26789 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:40:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvE4n-00038UC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 19:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: usaysir@darkknight.net Subject: Re: vacation? Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 22:15:29 -0400 Message-Id: <321D1441.32FC@darkknight.net> References: <321C7801.F7F@darkknight.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit usaysir@darkknight.net wrote: > > i know that many mail programs allow the posting of a file called > .vacation which sends auto responce to the sender the moment the email > arrives .... > > is there the a way to get the same effect with pine? i am running linux > 1.3.99 > -- > :=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=: > John Knight (770) 491-2042 - Voice > O.K. Informations Services (770) 902-8040 - Beeper > 2175 Northlake Parkway Suite 17 have discovered there is a linux port for .vacation knight@lambda.net > Tucker, GA 30084 usaysir@darkknight.net > :=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=: > "A little guy can whup a big guy every time ... as long as he is in > the right and keeps on comin'" ___original motto of the Texas Rangers > :=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=: -- :=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=: John Knight (770) 491-2042 - Voice O.K. Informations Services (770) 902-8040 - Beeper 2175 Northlake Parkway Suite 17 knight@lambda.net Tucker, GA 30084 usaysir@darkknight.net :=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=: "A little guy can whup a big guy every time ... as long as he is in the right and keeps on comin'" ___original motto of the Texas Rangers :=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=:=-=: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:45:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29637; Mon, 26 Aug 96 19:45:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA21947 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:40:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA21942 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:40:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvE4n-00038TC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 19:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Malte Stien Subject: How to forward and filter? Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 19:34:55 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, 1. can anybody tell us how to filter incoming mails? Is there a specific file or do we need a special external program? When true, which one can we use? 2. how can you forward mail, so that all mail one person is getting are automaticly forwarded to another user-address on the net? I've got two hosts and I want to get all messages on both hosts. Thank you. Bye Marcus & Malte. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technische Universitaet Berlin, Technische Informatik, stieni@cs.tu-berlin.de ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ...das Mensaessen schlaegt schon Wellen... ...vom Liebesspiel der Salmonellen... (Norbert u. d. Feiglinge) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 21:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30496; Mon, 26 Aug 96 21:45:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA28501 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 21:40:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id VAA28494 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 21:40:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvFwn-00038BC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 21:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Melusky" Subject: Re: How to get a list of the newsgroups? Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:12:22 -0700 Message-Id: References: <4vfgne$ocv@rain.psg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4vfgne$ocv@rain.psg.com> On 21 Aug 1996, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > My ISP claims to have added new newsgroups. > How can I find out what they are using PINE (3.95)? > I don't see any features which relate to this. > Thanks TjL Hi TjL, Here is what I do when I get to the screen below: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Folder-collection ** Default for Saves ** (Local) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- INBOX sent-mail saved-messages postponed-msgs printme sent-mail-jul-1996 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- News-collection (Remote) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- alt.arts.storytelling alt.ascii-art alt.consumers.experiences alt.quotations alt.soc.ethics alt.tv.highlander alt.windows95 alt.zines comp.dcom.modems comp.mail.pine comp.os.ms-windows.apps.compatibility.win95 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc de.talk.jokes.d Ok TjL, when I get to this screen I type: "A" to subscribe. PINE asks me: "Enter full group name or substring of group to get list: " Ok, then I enter a period "." and hit return. I figured that every Usenet group has a period in it so basically a list shows up of all the groups my PINE provider carries. I hope this helps ya. Take care, J. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ o __/\o_ __o < \ _ \<_ _/\ (_)/(_) / Triathalon whatfer@u.washington.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 22:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30852; Mon, 26 Aug 96 22:05:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id WAA28753 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 22:00:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id WAA28748 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 22:00:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvGCA-00038TC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 21:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu (Annelise Anderson) Subject: Re: No messages in or out. Date: 23 Aug 1996 08:32:55 GMT Message-Id: <4vjqbn$86b@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: Norman Morra (nmorra@Yorku.CA) wrote: : Dear Pine: Your system has been great but I can't seem to get through to : other people via e-mail. Is there some sort of virus in pine or what? What : causes this shutdown? Thanks, Norman. : Norman Morra : Department of Sociology : York University : nmorra@yorku.ca Well Norman, pine doesn't actually send e-mail. It just lets you read it and write it. It's a "user agent." So there is nothing wrong with pine. You will notice there's a configuration line called smtp-server= at least in the unix version; I'm not sure how dos/windows handles this. The smtp-server is the transport agent that actually sends the mail and receives it. To talk to the smtp server you need to be connected to the Internet in some way; or if your own machine is the smtp server (in which you put localhost after the = above) your machine has to have a route to other machines on the Internet. So pine could be compared to writing the letter and putting a stamp on it; or getting it out of the mailbox and reading it. What happens between the rest of the world and the mailbox is not a concern of pine's, except to the extent that it will accept an instruction to put the mail in a particular outgoing box (e.g., the mail transport agent at your ISP). Annelise From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 22:05:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26947; Mon, 26 Aug 96 22:05:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id WAA23705 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 22:00:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id WAA23700 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 22:00:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvGC9-00038BC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 21:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: iso-2022-jp Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:27:58 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Tony, One of our user services people at UW is preparing a long document describing how to do Japanese mail reading with Pine. It's still in preliminary state and has known errors, so I don't know if she wants to let it out yet. But I've bcc'd her on this message; if she wants to send you a copy on a "use at your own risk" basis that'd be her decision... On 23 Aug 1996, Tony wrote: > I am getting overloaded with e-mail from Japan because I subscribe to the > mail list of my favorite Japanese pop music star. Only problem is, all > incoming mail is being typed using iso-2022-jp!!!!!! > > I was wondering if there was some way I could decipher or decode > iso-2022-jp code using PINE in order to render it into either its Kanji/kana > equivalent or into some for which is readable in English???? Or do I have > to go a different route? ISO-2022-JP is simply mixed ASCII (English) and JIS (Japanese) text in 7 bits, using ESC codes to shift back and forth between them. Your terminal emulator may support this encoding as "JIS7". Pine does not do too well with ESC codes. Each ESC code occupies three bytes, which Pine thinks occupies screen space even when it doesn't. For this reason, I usually convert the data to 8-bit code (either EUC or SJIS) using the display-filter functionality along with the "nkf" program (if you do serious work with Japanese on Unix, you probably have a copy of nkf). You may need to do some experimentation to get it working, and you should also be sure that you're using the latest version of Pine. Earlier versions of Pine have known problems working with Japanese text. For more information about Japanese encodings and the nkf program, I refer to you to Ken Lunde's book "Understand Japanese Information Processing". -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 22:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29335; Mon, 26 Aug 96 22:05:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id WAA23715 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 22:00:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id WAA23710 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 22:00:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvGCE-00038UC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 21:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu (Annelise Anderson) Subject: Re: lost all my folders! Date: 23 Aug 1996 08:56:32 GMT Message-Id: <4vjro0$86b@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: R R Neuswanger (rrne@loc.gov) wrote: : Aiiee! I put something new into my folder collection : entry in setup, and discovered pine could neither find the old : stuff (which was still there) nor create any new ones. So I went : back and deleted the new part only: the old was still there when : I exited setup. It told me it would take effect next session (as : it had before), so I quit and re-started. Now there's *nothing* : there, and I don't know what should be, so that it can find my : mbox and all my folders. (This time it did create a new : sent-mail -- wouldn't even do that before.) It's not what shows : at the unix prompt: it had the word mail and a pair of square : brackets in it somehow. : And I leave at noon today for a week off .... :-( : R.R. (Beartooth) Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life : rrne@loc.gov Gun control, the opiate of : 202.707.8747 (shared line) the intellectuals: elitism : I speak for me. Only. laced with self-righteousness. If you have pine folders, they should show up in your home directory or the mail subdirectory. They should have mail in them whether or not pine is able to read them. Check the permissions on your .pinerc file. It may be that you entered pine as root and it changed the ownership or permissions on the file. You might also want to check the permission etc. on the folders, to make sure pine can read them. I would advise doing nothing dramatic here, everything should be okay with some minor fixes. Annelise From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 23:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32037; Mon, 26 Aug 96 23:21:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id XAA29866 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 23:15:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id XAA29861 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 23:15:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvHOw-00038BC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 23:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI (Holger Lillqvist) Subject: cmsg cancel <4vrgr7$201@oravannahka.Helsinki.FI> Control: cancel <4vrgr7$201@oravannahka.Helsinki.FI> Date: 26 Aug 1996 10:17:22 GMT Message-Id: <4vrtji$76u@oravannahka.Helsinki.FI> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Article cancelled from within tin [v1.3 950824BETA PLMC.960407] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 23:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32060; Mon, 26 Aug 96 23:22:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id XAA24717 for pine-info-out; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 23:16:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id XAA24709 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 23:16:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvHQl-00038TC; Mon, 26 Aug 96 23:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ect@teleport.com (Eric C. Thompson) Subject: PC Pine for Win32, do you need an IMAP server? Date: 27 Aug 1996 06:11:40 GMT Message-Id: <4vu3is$376@nadine.teleport.com> My server provider does not have an IMAP server. I would like to use PC Pine any ways. Is there a way to use PC Pine with only a Pop mail server? Thanks, Eric Thompson -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Eric C. Thompson ect@teleport.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 00:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20412; Tue, 27 Aug 96 00:42:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id AAA00855 for pine-info-out; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 00:36:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id AAA00850 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 00:36:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvIcB-00038BC; Tue, 27 Aug 96 00:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Adele Keuhs Subject: Status Line Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 22:42:07 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Help! I have Pine 3.94 and WAS able to view my status line, that is up until 2 days ago. Now there's nothing in the left-hand column...just the number of the messages. I want to be able to see it when I delete a message (i.e., "D") and when someone sends an email directly to me (i.e., "+"). Is this a problem with Pine or my ISP? Thanks, Adele keuhsa@river.it.gvsu.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 01:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32531; Tue, 27 Aug 96 01:01:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id AAA25809 for pine-info-out; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 00:56:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id AAA25804 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 00:56:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvIxr-00038BC; Tue, 27 Aug 96 00:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ruefenac@emily.cs.utah.edu (Craig R. Ruefenacht) Subject: Re: X-Reply-To in Pine? Date: 22 Aug 1996 04:08:56 GMT Message-Id: <4vgmgo$o8g@magus.cs.utah.edu> References: <4vg25a$kbp@magus.cs.utah.edu> Craig R. Ruefenacht (ruefenac@obtuse.cs.utah.edu) wrote: : Hi, : Does anyone know if Pine supports the X-Reply-To (or Reply-To) : header? I am trying to get Pine to use this header for the : address to reply to when I reply to mail, but I haven't : been able to get it to work. Elm, zmail, rmail, and other : mailers do this automatically, but Pine doesn't. : Any help anyone can give me would be greatly appreciated. It worked when I just re-tested it. Don't ask why it didn't this afternoon. I don't use pine on a regular basis, so that may have been part of the problem. I noticed this time that Pine explicitly asked me if I wanted to use the Reply-To header for the return address. I guess I was not paying attnetion earlier today. You can consider this posting to be taken care of. Thanks to those who posted ideas though. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Craig Ruefenacht ruefenac@cs.utah.edu University of Utah - College of Engineering - Salt Lake City Utah World Wide Web: http://www.cs.utah.edu/~ruefenac ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 02:07:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00094; Tue, 27 Aug 96 02:07:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id CAA01910 for pine-info-out; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 02:03:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id CAA01905 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 02:03:02 -0700 Received: from slave.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 27 Aug 1996 09:45:32 +0100 Received: from localhost by slave.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA02214; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 09:28:21 +0100 Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 09:28:20 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: msw@mailya.yakima.com Cc: Pine email discussions Subject: Re: Help on installation of Pine on AIX In-Reply-To: <9607238408.AA840821060@mailya.yakima.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" When you ftp'd the file across did you do it in binary mode (as against ASCII mode)? Some systems' ftp clients auto-detect come ftp servers' operating systems and default to binary mode if appropriate. The trouble is that people often come to assume this will always work, and it doesn't (it depends on a number of factors). To play it safe give the "binary" ftp command before starting the transfer with the "get" command. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 23 Aug 1996 msw@mailya.yakima.com wrote: > > Maybe I'm missing something simple, but I thought that the following > commands were all that are required to deal with the pine-info.a32.Z > Pine archive file: > > Machine: IBM RS/6000-560 > O/S: AIX UNIX v3.2.5 > File: pine-info.a32.Z > Command: zcat pine-info.a32.Z | tar xvf - > > The "tar" command fails with the following error message: > > tar: 0511-169 A directory checksum error on media; > 0 not equal to 13403. > > Any clues/suggestions? > > - Michael > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Michael Wright, Systems Analyst email: msw@yakima.com > Yakima Products, Inc. Ph: 707-826-8175 > P.O. Box 4899, Arcata, CA 95521 (USA) Fx: 707-826-8149 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 02:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00195; Tue, 27 Aug 96 02:18:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id CAA26793 for pine-info-out; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 02:14:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from eurogate.nortel.co.uk (eurogate.nortel.co.uk [192.100.101.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id CAA26788 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 02:14:39 -0700 Received: from hedera.bnr.co.uk (actually innergate.nortel.co.uk) by eurogate.nortel.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 27 Aug 1996 10:14:16 +0100 Received: from storax.bnr.co.uk by hedera.bnr.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 27 Aug 1996 09:14:07 +0000 Received: from bonsai6.bnr.co.uk on storax.bnr.co.uk over SMTP (5.61++/UK-2.1-MX(storax.bnr.co.uk)-(94/10/11.1.13)); Tue, 27 Aug 96 10:16:26 +0100 Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 10:14:21 +0100 (BST) From: "A.J.Smith" X-Sender: ajsmith@bonsai6.bnr.co.uk To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: no '+' symbol Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I was previously using Pine at university, but now I am working and I have got Pine by FTPand built it. Everything seems to work fine, but I am not getting a '+' symbol in the status column of the index screen to denote personal email. As I am on a few mailing lists this makes sorting my mail each morning quite difficult. I thought it might be because I hadn't got my address in the alternative addresses list, but I have entered all possible working permutations and combinations of my address and still no luck. Can anyone help? ------------------------------------------------------------- Andy J. Smith http://sol.soc.staffs.ac.uk/cm4bcajs Nortel Technology ESN: 742 2675 London Road, Harlow Tel: +44 (0)1279 402675 Essex. CM17 9NA. Fax: +44 (0)1279 451866 England Email: A.J.Smith@nortel.co.uk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 02:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00671; Tue, 27 Aug 96 02:44:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id CAA27127 for pine-info-out; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 02:41:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id CAA27122 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 02:41:52 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 27 Aug 96 17:46:38 +0800 Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 17:38:58 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "A.J.Smith" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: no '+' symbol In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 27 Aug 1996, A.J.Smith wrote: > the alternative addresses list, but I have entered all possible > working permutations and combinations of my address and still no luck. > > Can anyone help? When you get an email with your address in the To: field cut the entire To: field (minus the To:, right) and paste that into the alternative addresses list. Then quite and restart pine....or maybe even go to a different folder and back again. The "+" should now be visible. Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 03:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00834; Tue, 27 Aug 96 03:15:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id DAA02681 for pine-info-out; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 03:13:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from eurogate.nortel.co.uk (eurogate.nortel.co.uk [192.100.101.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id DAA02676 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 03:13:22 -0700 Received: from hedera.bnr.co.uk (actually innergate.nortel.co.uk) by eurogate.nortel.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 27 Aug 1996 11:13:12 +0100 Received: from storax.bnr.co.uk by hedera.bnr.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 27 Aug 1996 10:11:27 +0000 Received: from bonsai6.bnr.co.uk on storax.bnr.co.uk over SMTP (5.61++/UK-2.1-MX(storax.bnr.co.uk)-(94/10/11.1.13)); Tue, 27 Aug 96 11:12:14 +0100 Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 11:10:12 +0100 (BST) From: "A.J.Smith" X-Sender: ajsmith@bonsai6.bnr.co.uk To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: no '+' symbol In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 27 Aug 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Tue, 27 Aug 1996, A.J.Smith wrote: > > > the alternative addresses list, but I have entered all possible > > working permutations and combinations of my address and still no luck. > > > > Can anyone help? > > When you get an email with your address in the To: field > cut the entire To: field (minus the To:, right) and paste that into > the alternative addresses list. > > Then quite and restart pine....or maybe even go to a different > folder and back again. The "+" should now be visible. Thanks, it works now. All that had happened was that I hadn't quit and restarted. I just never thought of that. =o) That bit of advice would be a good thing to put on the config/setup help screen, unless it is already and I just missed that too. ------------------------------------------------------------- Andy J. Smith http://sol.soc.staffs.ac.uk/cm4bcajs Nortel Technology ESN: 742 2675 London Road, Harlow Tel: +44 (0)1279 402675 Essex. CM17 9NA. Fax: +44 (0)1279 451866 England Email: A.J.Smith@nortel.co.uk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 04:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01232; Tue, 27 Aug 96 04:16:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id EAA03490 for pine-info-out; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 04:11:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id EAA03485 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 04:11:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvM3F-00038BC; Tue, 27 Aug 96 04:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: teale@acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca (Debbie Teale) Subject: IMAP Domain appended when replying to a local address Date: 26 Aug 1996 15:47:08 GMT Message-Id: <4vsgts$1j1s@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca> When composing a new message to a local user, pine adds the user-domain from the pinerc. However when replying to a message where address is "local" pine adds the imap server host address rather than the user-domain. I could not find any option to change this behaviour. I see from the pine-info archives that there has been some discussion about this over a year ago. We are running IMAP2bis and I wondered if the new protocols would overcome this problem. Any suggestions? We are using canned AIX binaries for sendmail and cannot change defaults. -- Deborah Teale, email: teale@acs.ucalgary.ca University of Calgary, fax: (403)288-9199 Dept. of Univ. Computing Services phone: (403)220-4467 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 05:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01802; Tue, 27 Aug 96 05:37:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id FAA04399 for pine-info-out; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 05:31:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id FAA04394 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 05:31:15 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59:24/EUnetD-2.5.4.c) via EUnet id OAA09201; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 14:31:03 +0200 Message-Id: <199608271228.OAA28034@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id OAA28034; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 14:28:32 +0200 From: Rudolf Kompf Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 13:42:10 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: kompf@m_post.ife-le.de To: Malte Stien Cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: How to forward and filter? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, Malte Stien wrote: -> Hi, -> -> 1. can anybody tell us how to filter incoming mails? Is there a specific -> file or do we need a special external program? When true, which one can -> we use? -> -> 2. how can you forward mail, so that all mail one person is getting are -> automaticly forwarded to another user-address on the net? I've got two -> hosts and I want to get all messages on both hosts. -> -> Thank you. Bye Marcus & Malte. -> -> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -> Technische Universitaet Berlin, Technische Informatik, stieni@cs.tu-berlin.de -> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -> ...das Mensaessen schlaegt schon Wellen... -> ...vom Liebesspiel der Salmonellen... (Norbert u. d. Feiglinge) -> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -> Try one of the packages 'procmail' or 'filter' (filter is part of elm). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 06:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02101; Tue, 27 Aug 96 06:20:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id GAA04933 for pine-info-out; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 06:16:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost.apertus.com (mailhost.apertus.com [198.174.60.102]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id GAA04928 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 06:16:24 -0700 Received: from rigel.ny.apertus.com (rigel.ny.apertus.com [204.73.161.250]) by mailhost.apertus.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA18126 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 08:16:06 -0500 Received: from atiny.ny.apertus.com by rigel.ny.apertus.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA01224; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 09:11:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 09:09:23 +0100 (BST) From: George Newfield To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug (ID JX1YQ): When Deleting Message (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-5627-841052435=:26556" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-5627-841052435=:26556 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 10:40:35 +0100 (BST) From: George Newfield To: Pine Developers Subject: Bug (ID JX1YQ): When Deleting Message Gentlemen: First let me say that I have been using PINE (Version 3.91 - I believe, the current version) for nearly a year, and am very pleased with its performance. I am with a company of about 50 people, many of who use PINE on a regular basis. To date, nobody reported anything unusual with the program. Within the last week, I have noted the following problem, which could possibly be a bug. When attempting to delete a message from my INBOX, the program seemingly goes through the correct steps of deletion, and allows me to exit. When I reenter the program and bring up my INBOX folder, the deleted message is recreated as a partial copy of the original message, and is entitled "No Message Text Available." Additionally, both the message date and title are removed. This seems to occur both when selecting "D" for delete, as well as "X" for expunge. Thus, I CAN NOT DELETE messages, and the count either remains the same or gets progressively larger. Furthermore, today I have received a PINE message that "INBOX has been closed," leaving only the last 3 messages. I would be grateful to hear from anyone who has experienced this or a similar problem, and advise what my options are. Thank you for your effort. George Newfield e-mail: george.newfield@ny.apertus.com Apertus Technologies, Inc ************************************** Technical Documentation 2 Penn Plaza New York, NY 10121 ---559023410-5627-841052435=:26556-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 08:46:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05029; Tue, 27 Aug 96 08:46:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id IAA02008 for pine-info-out; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 08:36:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id IAA02003 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 08:36:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvQB8-00038TC; Tue, 27 Aug 96 08:35 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Subject: automatically include '--' with signature? Date: 27 Aug 1996 15:11:37 GMT Message-Id: <4vv379$qpp@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can I configure pine to automatically include a '--' =B4line before the signature (if there is one) short of explicitly including the '--' line into my signature file?` --=20 Georg Schwarz (schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de, PGP 2.= 6ui) Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254 FAX -21130 IRC k= uroi Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://itp1.physik.tu-berlin.de/~schwarz= / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 09:33:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06476; Tue, 27 Aug 96 09:33:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA03337 for pine-info-out; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 09:29:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA03332 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 09:29:19 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 28 Aug 96 00:34:05 +0800 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 00:26:25 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Georg Schwarz Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? In-Reply-To: <4vv379$qpp@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On 27 Aug 1996, Georg Schwarz wrote: > Can I configure pine to automatically include a '--' =B4line before the > signature (if there is one) short of explicitly including the '--' line > into my signature file?` =09It is not a config option.....so you'll need to add it in your signature. I suspect you ask this since, if I recall, some other programs add the "--" to the signature and if you add it in manually you end up with tow sets of "--". =09Regards, =09=09Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Comme= rce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section= 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 10:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07498; Tue, 27 Aug 96 10:21:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id KAA09614 for pine-info-out; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 10:17:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id KAA09606 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 10:17:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvRgH-00038BC; Tue, 27 Aug 96 10:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: richw@yank.kitchener.on.ca (Rich Wales) Subject: Re: pine.conf and location of sendmail binary Date: 27 Aug 1996 10:58:26 -0400 Message-Id: <19960827144311.richw@yank.kitchener.on.ca> References: <4vic8e$ml9@mule.fhcrc.org> skendric@fhcrc.org (Stuart Kendrick) wrote: . . . Pine couldn't find /usr/lib/sendmail. . . . I've moved sendmail to /opt/local/sbin. So I created /opt/local/lib/pine.conf, consisting of the single line: sendmail-path=/opt/local/sbin/sendmail Tried sending the message again . . . . Pine is actually tossing mail into the bit bucket. If you use "sendmail-path", you must also include all the command-line options that you expect Pine to use when it calls Sendmail. E.g.: sendmail-path=/opt/local/sbin/sendmail -bs -odb -oem I got bit by this same thing a while back. Rich Wales http://yank.kitchener.on.ca/~richw/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 13:00:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10793; Tue, 27 Aug 96 13:00:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA13310 for pine-info-out; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 12:53:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rf3.cuis.edu (rf3.cuis.edu [192.111.36.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id MAA13305 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 12:52:58 -0700 Received: from [207.92.237.114] (207.92.237.114) by crf.cuis.edu (PMDF V5.0-7 #15651) id <01I8RVOB7M4W8Y58L6@crf.cuis.edu>; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 14:45:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 14:44:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Larry Wahlers Subject: News Server? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: wahlers%lcms.org@crf.cuis.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-X-Sender: wahlers@crf.cuis.edu I'm our PMDF system administrator, and I'm sorry to say I don't know of a news server I can connect to to test Pine's capabilities in this area. Anybody know of one I can subscribe to, and how? Thanks in advance! Larry Wahlers From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 13:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10925; Tue, 27 Aug 96 13:08:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id NAA13553 for pine-info-out; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 13:03:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from axp14.ams.org (AXP14.AMS.ORG [130.44.1.14]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id NAA13543 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 13:03:15 -0700 Received: from AXP14.AMS.ORG by AXP14.AMS.ORG (PMDF V5.0-6 #16534) id <01I8RYEUUMSW000ICX@AXP14.AMS.ORG>; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:02:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:02:55 -0500 (EST) From: pgc@MATH.AMS.ORG Subject: copies of sent messages To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: pgc Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi ... I used PINE about three years ago and am thrilled that my sysop finally made this new version available to me (I had used mm and hated it). Anyway, the last time I used PINE, messages I sent used to be automatically filed in a Sent Messages folder. Somehow this does not happen in this new version. I either want that, or at least would like to be a cc on each of my outgoing messages, so that I get a copy for my files. My sysop is not "pine-literate" so she can't help me. How can I set up a "Sent Messages" folder, or arrange to be an automatic cc on all my messages? can you help? Many thanks. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Paul G. Chambers Director of Marketing and Sales AMERICAN MATHEMATICAL SOCIETY pgc@ams.org tel 401.455.4081 fax 401.331.3842 Visit e-MATH -- http://www.ams.org/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 13:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11162; Tue, 27 Aug 96 13:20:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id NAA08467 for pine-info-out; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 13:17:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id NAA08462 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 13:17:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvUXM-00038TC; Tue, 27 Aug 96 13:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kenneth Martig Subject: .pinerc problem with IRIX 6.2 and autofs Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 12:03:29 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I am running pine version 3.95 on an SGI Indigo2. I just upgraded to IRIX 6.2 and started having problems. We are using autofs (IRIX multithreaded automounter) to share home directories between machines. The home directory is initially mounted as /a/mothra/home and then autofs creates a /home tree and mounts the directory /home/mothra in place. There is no link created as with other automounter programs. Other machines home directories are mounted as /home/flames or whatever. The problem is when you start up pine if your user account is on the local machine, you get the error message: Error writing /home/mothra/martig/.pinerc : Improper link Trying to access the addressbook gives you the eror: Error opening address book .addressbook: Improper link If I set the home directory to point to /a/mothra/home/martig instead of /home/mothra/martig, everything works fine. If a user with a home directory mounted from another machine (using autofs) starts up pine it works fine. I am assuming that it has something to do with this second mount of the home partition, but I don't know what to do about it. I can't just mount the home partition on /home/mothra because /home is controlled by autofs. Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ken Martig ZymoGenetics, Inc. martig@zgi.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 13:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11414; Tue, 27 Aug 96 13:33:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id NAA14311 for pine-info-out; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 13:27:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id NAA14306 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 13:27:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvUej-00038BC; Tue, 27 Aug 96 13:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tgilas@hookup.net (Tom Gilas) Subject: Appeal for Help/Filtering Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:12:10 -0500 Message-Id: Dear Pine Experts I would appreciate any help that anyone could give me with this problem. I run a mailing list via my University using listserv software on their machine. I get tons of error messages that take hours to download from my ISP's machine. I then go about trashing them all anyway. I have checked with the listmaster and it is not possible to delete them at the source. I then contacted my ISP and they say that it may be possible to filter out these error messages for deletion prior too them being put in my "mailbox" but they don't know how to do it. They us Pine to run their e-mail delivery. I would appreciate any help or pointers to other resources that anyone can offer. Thanks Yours Sincerely Tom Gilas -- Tom Gilas MD,FRCSC,FACS, Toronto, Ontario, Canada, tgilas@hookup.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 14:32:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12481; Tue, 27 Aug 96 14:32:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id OAA10059 for pine-info-out; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 14:27:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id OAA10054 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 14:27:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvVcb-00038BC; Tue, 27 Aug 96 14:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fred Heitkamp Subject: Can Pine do POP? FAQ? Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:06:57 -0400 Message-Id: <32235561.5B6A7AF1@ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can pine do pop, and is there a pine FAQ? I appologize in advance if these question has been asked many times before. Thanks! Fred Heitkamp From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 15:23:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14170; Tue, 27 Aug 96 15:23:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id PAA16951 for pine-info-out; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 15:17:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id PAA16940 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 15:17:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvWNG-00038BC; Tue, 27 Aug 96 15:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu (Ashok Aiyar) Subject: Re: Can Pine do POP? FAQ? Date: 27 Aug 1996 22:08:41 GMT Message-Id: References: <32235561.5B6A7AF1@ibm.net> On Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:06:57 -0400, Fred Heitkamp wrote: >Can pine do pop, and is there a pine FAQ? Unix Pine will do pop .... the syntax is something like: incoming-folders={pop3host.domain/pop3}MailBox_Name -- Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. Department of Oncology email: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu University of Wisconsin-Madison tel: (608) 262-6697 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:27:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15957; Tue, 27 Aug 96 16:27:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA18764 for pine-info-out; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:23:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id QAA18759 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:23:09 -0700 Received: from localhost (skramer@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.07/8.7.3+UW96.07) with SMTP id QAA27121 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:23:08 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:23:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Kramer To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Send Netiquette In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: "University of Washington, Computing and Communications" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "Dear Emily Postnews" is also available on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.eff.org/papers/eegtti/eeg_272.html#SEC273 ------------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu Network Information Center http://www.washington.edu/nic/ Computing & Communications University of Washington ------------------------------------------------------------ On 23 Aug 1996, Sven Guckes wrote: # kompf@ife-le.de (Rudolf Kompf): # > Who would me send a new version of 'Netiquette'? # # Since you can read news - why not get it off news.answers? # # Subject: Emily Postnews Answers Your Questions on Netiquette # Newsgroups: news.announce.newusers,news.answers # From: netannounce@deshaw.com (Mark Moraes) # Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 08:00:14 GMT # Followup-To: news.newusers.questions # Lines: 532 # # HTH. # # Sven # # From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15698; Tue, 27 Aug 96 16:38:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA13095 for pine-info-out; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:29:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id QAA13090 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:29:22 -0700 Received: from localhost (skramer@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.07/8.7.3+UW96.07) with SMTP id QAA27522 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:29:21 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:29:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Kramer To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Can Pine do POP? FAQ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: "University of Washington, Computing and Communications" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "Can Pine be used with a POP server?" is, in fact, the recently revised last item on the list of Frequently Asked Questions about Pine, found at the URLs: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/FAQs.html and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/FAQs.txt ------------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu University of Washington Computing & Communications ------------------------------------------------------------ On 27 Aug 1996, Ashok Aiyar wrote: # On Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:06:57 -0400, Fred Heitkamp wrote: # >Can pine do pop, and is there a pine FAQ? # # Unix Pine will do pop .... the syntax is something like: # # incoming-folders={pop3host.domain/pop3}MailBox_Name # # # -- # Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. # Department of Oncology email: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu # University of Wisconsin-Madison tel: (608) 262-6697 # # From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 19:47:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16645; Tue, 27 Aug 96 19:47:12 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA16397 for pine-info-out; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 19:43:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA16383 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 19:43:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvaX7-00038BC; Tue, 27 Aug 96 19:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bkron@netcom.com (W Halverson) Subject: Duration of informational messages? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 08:00:42 GMT I've poured over the man pages for pine without luck. (How) can one alter the duration of the informational displays such as "Last message deleted"? It obviously is coded into the program since it lasts far longer than the time necessary to actually delete the message(s). It is kind of annoying to have to wait so long. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 20:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19714; Tue, 27 Aug 96 20:45:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA22861 for pine-info-out; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 20:38:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id UAA22856 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 20:38:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvbR7-00038TC; Tue, 27 Aug 96 20:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI (Holger Lillqvist) Subject: Re: Quoting while reply... Date: 27 Aug 1996 11:02:52 GMT Message-Id: <4vukks$84a@oravannahka.Helsinki.FI> References: <4vibr3$erl@bell.cs.unc.edu> <4vojh4$2mt@news.injersey.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jay Respler: : > Hi all PINE gurus: : > When I reply to a message, pine begins the message as... : > On wrote: : > Can anyone tell me if and how I can customize this line? : > Thanks a lot! : > - Narendra. : : This can be done from the setup. : Really? As far as I can see you can't change this line from the setup (at least not in version 394) - and not in the .pinerc -file either... -- hl From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 21:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20030; Tue, 27 Aug 96 21:07:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA17414 for pine-info-out; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 21:03:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id VAA17403 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 21:03:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvbmN-00038BC; Tue, 27 Aug 96 20:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mjenks@solaria.sol.net (Mark Jenks) Subject: Command line option wanted. Date: 27 Aug 1996 13:03:16 GMT Message-Id: <4vurml$ris@hummin.sol.net> Pine Development Team: Would it be possible to include a command like option that would give the status of a folder (default: INBOX). 2 New messages, 5 Old messages, Last time Pine used, etc.. Don't want it in reverse or bold. Just plain text. Would be usefull to capture it and use it in a menu. THanks! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 23:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21115; Tue, 27 Aug 96 23:13:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id WAA24604 for pine-info-out; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 22:58:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id WAA24599 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 1996 22:58:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvdcO-00038TC; Tue, 27 Aug 96 22:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brahn@scunix4.harvard.edu (Benjamin Rahn) Subject: Eudora <-> Pine mailbox conversion Date: 27 Aug 1996 16:21:48 GMT Message-Id: <4vv7as$g08@decaxp.harvard.edu> How do I go about combining mailbox files from Pine in Unix and Eudora on a PC? Can I just concatenate them, or do I need to put some formatting codes at the concatenation point? Also, should I use binary or ascii mode when FTPing the files? Thanks! Ben From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 01:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21850; Wed, 28 Aug 96 01:19:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA20658 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 01:12:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id BAA20653 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 01:12:14 -0700 Received: from rcp.net.pe by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: rcp.net.pe [161.132.2.10]) id QQbero00244; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 04:12:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rcp.net.pe via rmail with stdio id for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 27 Aug 96 15:12:02 -0400 (WET DST) Received: from cc:Mail by rimac.com.pe id AA841184040 Tue, 27 Aug 96 15:14:00 Date: Tue, 27 Aug 96 15:14:00 From: Central_de_Asistencia_at_Riminter-Sisidro@rimac.com.pe Message-Id: <9607278411.AA841184040@rimac.com.pe> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Information lists Dear Sirs: I want information of lists for subscribe. I speak Spanish and very less English. Thank for your time. Augusto Faustor From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 01:59:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22080; Wed, 28 Aug 96 01:59:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA21233 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 01:54:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id BAA21228 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 01:54:33 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 28 Aug 1996 09:48:03 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA29929; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 09:51:53 +0100 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 09:51:53 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Ed Greshko Cc: Georg Schwarz , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Of course, you could take a copy of your normal "--"-less signature into a separate file and add the "--". Pine can then be configured (in the Setup Configuration screen) to use this alternative file. (It only *defaults* to a file called ".signature" in your home directory (for UNIX Pine).) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 28 Aug 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 27 Aug 1996, Georg Schwarz wrote: >=20 > > Can I configure pine to automatically include a '--' =B4line before the > > signature (if there is one) short of explicitly including the '--' line > > into my signature file?` >=20 > =09It is not a config option.....so you'll need to add it in your > signature. I suspect you ask this since, if I recall, some other > programs add the "--" to the signature and if you add it in manually > you end up with tow sets of "--". >=20 > =09Regards, >=20 > =09=09Ed >=20 > ----- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Com= merce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Secti= on 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C >=20 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 02:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22231; Wed, 28 Aug 96 02:10:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id CAA21396 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 02:06:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id CAA21391 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 02:06:35 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 28 Aug 1996 10:02:32 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA01928; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 10:06:23 +0100 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 10:06:22 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: pgc Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: copies of sent messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" You need to set up a "default FCC" folder name. This will then be used to fill in a value for the "Fcc:" header for every message you send (ie, it'll be the default value for this header). The "Fcc:" header names the folder to be used for a "File Carbon Copy" of the outgoing message ... sort of like photocopying a letter you've written and putting the copy in your filing cabinet. To set up the default go to Pine's Setup Configuration screen ("S" then "C" from the Main Menu), then look for a variable called "default-fcc", then set a value for it. For UNIX Pine the suggested folder name is "sent-mail": default-fcc = sent-mail When you use Pine for the first time in each new month it will offer to change your sent-mail folder, renaming the current one to end with last month's name (and then offer to delete any older such folder in order to save disk space). Some hints that may be useful: * If you set up a default-fcc value then every message you send out will default to being recorded in your nominated folder. You can over-ride this for a particular message you are composing by putting the cursor on a header line and typing ^R to see the Rich Headers, then delete the folder name from the "Fcc:" header field. * Alternatively you may decide to NOT save every outgoing message automatically (by setting the default-fcc variable to "")m and use the above trick in reverse to specify an Fcc folder for those occasional message you do want to save a copy of. * You can give a replacement Fcc value mail to for a particular correspondent, overriding the default-fcc value, by adding that person to your Address Book along with an Fcc value for them. Any message sent with that person listed as the first recipient will get stored in the specific Fcc folder instead (at least, I think that's how it works:-) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 27 Aug 1996 pgc@MATH.AMS.ORG wrote: > > Hi ... I used PINE about three years ago and am thrilled that my sysop > finally made this new version available to me (I had used mm and hated > it). Anyway, the last time I used PINE, messages I sent used to be > automatically filed in a Sent Messages folder. Somehow this does not > happen in this new version. I either want that, or at least would like > to be a cc on each of my outgoing messages, so that I get a copy for my > files. My sysop is not "pine-literate" so she can't help me. How > can I set up a "Sent Messages" folder, or arrange to be an automatic cc > on all my messages? > > can you help? > > Many thanks. > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Paul G. Chambers > Director of Marketing and Sales > AMERICAN MATHEMATICAL SOCIETY > pgc@ams.org > tel 401.455.4081 > fax 401.331.3842 > Visit e-MATH -- http://www.ams.org/ > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 02:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22191; Wed, 28 Aug 96 02:17:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id CAA27194 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 02:14:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id CAA27189 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 02:14:11 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 28 Aug 96 17:18:59 +0800 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 17:11:18 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Mike Brudenell Cc: Georg Schwarz , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 28 Aug 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Of course, you could take a copy of your normal "--"-less signature into a > separate file and add the "--". Pine can then be configured (in the Setup > Configuration screen) to use this alternative file. (It only *defaults* > to a file called ".signature" in your home directory (for UNIX Pine).) Sure.....but then you have to maintain (and remember) that you have 2 signature files. Yes, they may not change that often...but why have 2 when 1 will do. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 02:52:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22916; Wed, 28 Aug 96 02:52:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id CAA21867 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 02:48:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id CAA21862 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 02:48:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvhD4-00038BC; Wed, 28 Aug 96 02:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Markolf Gudjons Subject: Q: Sort order for reading news Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 11:40:41 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, is there any way to state a different sort order for news articles than for mail messages? E.g., I'd like to keep mail sorted by date of arrival, but news should be sorted by subject to keep threads together. Always having to hit "$S" is a bit annoying. Thanks! -- Markolf Gudjons, Local System Administrator, EED/I _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ Ericsson Eurolab Deutschland _/ _/ _/ _/ Ericsson-Allee 1, D-52134 Herzogenrath _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ Germany (PGP key available) _/ _/ _/ _/ email: eedmgu@eed.ericsson.se _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ phone: +49 2407 575-665 | fax: -150 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 03:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23007; Wed, 28 Aug 96 03:07:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id DAA27715 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 03:04:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id DAA27710 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 03:03:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvhPK-00038BC; Wed, 28 Aug 96 02:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Subject: make pine read $NNTPSERVER? Date: 27 Aug 1996 15:09:24 GMT Message-Id: <4vv334$qlh@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Is there a way to automatically make pine use the NNTPSERVER environment variable if it is set? -- Georg Schwarz (schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de, PGP 2.6ui) Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254 FAX -21130 IRC kuroi Technische Universität Berlin http://itp1.physik.tu-berlin.de/~schwarz/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 03:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22789; Wed, 28 Aug 96 03:18:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id DAA22192 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 03:14:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id DAA22187 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 03:14:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvha2-00038BC; Wed, 28 Aug 96 03:10 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@neumann.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? Date: 28 Aug 1996 10:09:54 GMT Message-Id: References: <4vv379$qpp@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <4vv3ic$283@due.unit.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen): > Georg Schwarz wrote: > >Can I configure pine to automatically include a '--' =B4line before th= e > >signature (if there is one) short of explicitly including the '--' lin= e > >into my signature file?` > I don't think there is a way (at least I haven't found one), but I just= want > to mention that it should actually be '-- ' (an extra space at the end = of > the line.) Correct. Thanks you for mentioning this! Folks - the extra space is intentional. Please use it! Thank you! For those who wonder why: The "sigdashes" line makes it possible for programs to detect the signatu= re. Example: My newsreader (slrn) shows text in colour and you can assign a = colour for the header, normal text, quoted text, and (you guessed it) the signat= ure. Signatures are defined to start with the sigdashes line - so it is requir= ed. Sven --=20 Sven Guckes guckes@math.fu-berlin.de [pine] [960101] PINE Email List: Pine Information PINE Email List WWW archive (searchable): http://www.washington.edu:1180= /pine/ PINE/ELM comparison: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/elm.vs.pine= .html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 03:29:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23020; Wed, 28 Aug 96 03:29:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id DAA28009 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 03:24:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id DAA28004 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 03:24:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvhiW-00038BC; Wed, 28 Aug 96 03:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tcheney@lexis.pop.upenn.edu (Timothy P. Cheney) Subject: PC-Pine Global Addressbook on Netware Server problem Date: 27 Aug 1996 19:48:14 GMT Message-Id: <4vvjdu$q2m@netnews.upenn.edu> I maintain a global addressbook on a unix system and then download it to a drive on a Netware 4.1 server so that PC-Pine users can access it as well. The problem is that when someone starts PC-Pine the addressbook is opened (in read-only mode) which locks the file against writing. This means I can only update the global addressbook if no-one is running PC-Pine at the time. Does anyone know a fix for this problem? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | tcheney@pop.upenn.edu | | Timothy P. Cheney (215) 898-3197 | | Population Studies Center | | 239 McNeil/6298 | | University of Pennsylvania | | Philadelphia, PA 19104 | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 03:31:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23234; Wed, 28 Aug 96 03:31:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id DAA28062 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 03:27:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id DAA28057; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 03:27:28 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 28 Aug 1996 11:23:28 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id LAA13996; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 11:27:19 +0100 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 11:27:18 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Markolf Gudjons Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Q: Sort order for reading news In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" I'm afraid not... there is only one default sort order, and that affects both ordinary and news collections of folders. There is occasional talk from hte Pine Team about the possibility of introducing per-folder or per-collection sorting. Personally I feel the former overkill (to use and to manage), and would (I think:-) be happy with two separate default sort methods: one affecting folders within a news collection, the other affecting all other folders. Presumably this would be easier to implement too? Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 28 Aug 1996, Markolf Gudjons wrote: > Hi, > > is there any way to state a different sort order for news articles than > for mail messages? > > E.g., I'd like to keep mail sorted by date of arrival, but news should be > sorted by subject to keep threads together. Always having to hit "$S" is a > bit annoying. > > > Thanks! > > -- > Markolf Gudjons, Local System Administrator, EED/I > > _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ Ericsson Eurolab Deutschland > _/ _/ _/ _/ Ericsson-Allee 1, D-52134 Herzogenrath > _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ Germany (PGP key available) > _/ _/ _/ _/ email: eedmgu@eed.ericsson.se > _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ phone: +49 2407 575-665 | fax: -150 > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 04:24:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23368; Wed, 28 Aug 96 04:24:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id EAA23092 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 04:19:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id EAA23087 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 04:19:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvibO-00038BC; Wed, 28 Aug 96 04:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Subject: Re: Q: changing the "From"-Field in outgoing messages Date: 28 Aug 1996 11:15:42 GMT Message-Id: <5019ou$29e@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <5010qv$eel@sun168.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> hereth@aeeo.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Ralf Hereth) writes: >config-file doesn't seem to solve this problem. The only workaround that I >found out is to use a customized header "Reply-to:" in my config-file. >Does anybody know a possibility to change the "From"-field of outgoing mail >to another address? I don't think you should change the "From" (note: no ':') line, but isn't it possible to put a "From: address" in the customized header? I do this with elm. -- Georg Schwarz (schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de, PGP 2.6ui) Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254 FAX -21130 IRC kuroi Technische Universität Berlin http://itp1.physik.tu-berlin.de/~schwarz/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 04:27:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14641; Wed, 28 Aug 96 04:27:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id EAA29029 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 04:24:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id EAA29022 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 04:24:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uview-00038BC; Wed, 28 Aug 96 04:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI (Holger Lillqvist) Subject: Re: How do I move mail from Pine to my hard drive? Date: 28 Aug 1996 09:10:07 GMT Message-Id: <5012df$3lr@oravannahka.Helsinki.FI> References: <321e4883.0@seashell.california.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mark: : : I have a multi-attachment message stuck in my Pine inbox on my : BBS and have been unable to export it to my hard drive. The export : command says a copy of the message was created in some file (call it : "temp")--but I can't find this file. Obviously, I don't know what the : heck I'm doing--but the instructions (?) for carrying out the export : are terse at best. : With pine's export command you export messages from your mail folder to separate files in your home directory in the unix machine. You can't export to your hard disk directly from pine. To do this, check the terminal program you use, or consult local FAQs by your system admin about carrying out file transfers. -- hl From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 05:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24091; Wed, 28 Aug 96 05:42:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id FAA24033 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 05:39:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id FAA24028 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 05:39:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvjrG-00038BC; Wed, 28 Aug 96 05:36 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? Date: 27 Aug 1996 15:17:32 GMT Message-Id: <4vv3ic$283@due.unit.no> References: <4vv379$qpp@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> In article <4vv379$qpp@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>, Georg Schwarz wrote: >Can I configure pine to automatically include a '--' ´line before the >signature (if there is one) short of explicitly including the '--' line >into my signature file?` I don't think there is a way (at least I haven't found one), but I just want to mention that it should actually be '-- ' (an extra space at the end of the line.) Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 06:03:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24202; Wed, 28 Aug 96 06:03:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id FAA00213 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 05:59:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id FAA00208 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 05:59:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvkCK-00038BC; Wed, 28 Aug 96 05:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: How do I move mail from Pine to my hard drive? Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 08:57:38 -0400 Message-Id: References: <321e4883.0@seashell.california.com> <5012df$3lr@oravannahka.Helsinki.FI> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5012df$3lr@oravannahka.Helsinki.FI> On 28 Aug 1996, Holger Lillqvist wrote: > : [...] > With pine's export command you export messages from your mail folder to > separate files in your home directory in the unix machine. You can't > export to your hard disk directly from pine. [...] On the contrary, depending on your setup, you may be able to send a file directly from Pine to your PC hard disk. I do it all the time. I run Pine under a flavor of Un*x, dialed in from a DOS PC. zmodem is available both on the Un*x host and on my PC communications software (ProComm Plus v2/DOS). I have a shell script on the Un*x host called sendz. Whenever I am viewing a message or text-type attachment, I invoke the pipe facility of Pine (|), which must be enabled in the config, and just answer the prompt with 'sendz'. On my setup, the message or attachment is auto- matically downloaded to a ramdisk on my PC, where I can do with it whatever I want. Note that the downloaded wile will have the DOS filename of 'DOWNLOAD.nnn' where nnn is the first three digits of the Un*x process number (I think). If you are downloading multiple messages or files in short order, you may need to shell out and rename the file after each download. Also, you may want to change the temporary directory used for the intermediate file. #!/bin/sh umask 066 trap "rm -f $HOME/tmp/$$download" 0 cat > $HOME/tmp/download.$$$ sz -a $HOME/tmp/download.$$$ rm -f $HOME/tmp/download.$$$ umask 077 Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 06:19:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23306; Wed, 28 Aug 96 06:19:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id GAA24442 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 06:14:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id GAA24437 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 06:14:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvkOH-00038TC; Wed, 28 Aug 96 06:10 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbdavis@osbm9.osbm.state.nc.us (John Davis) Subject: Spool Lock Error Message Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 12:02:40 GMT I am working with a new startup ISP in installing IMAP and PC-Pine. The IMAP daemon seems to be working fine now, except whenever a user uses PC-Pine to access files off the IMAP server when the user opens a message in his in-box he gets an error message saying "Error Creating /var/spool/mail/xxxxxxxx.lock.yyyyyy.zzzzz", where xxxxxxxx is the users login ID and yyyyy and zzzzz are a series of numbers. Now the message is retrieved and displayed properly, but the annoying error message still appears. This only happens with the in-box, access to folders doesn't cause the message to display. Any suggestions on how to get rid of the message? ======================================= John Davis jbdavis@pobox.com http://www.pobox.com/~jbdavis/ww2.html ======================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 06:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20137; Wed, 28 Aug 96 06:20:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id GAA00463 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 06:17:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from smokey.arl.mil (smokey.arl.mil [128.63.155.114]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id GAA00458 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 06:17:36 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 09:16:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Lee Ann Brainard To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: BCC behavior change Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Good Morning. We are upgrading to 3.95 from 3.91 and noticed the BCC behavior has changed. In 3.91 the BCC header field and recipients appear to all addressees. In 3.95, the BCC recipients are 'invisible' as they should be, but so is the BCC header field! The BCC recipient has no idea how he received the message. Is there a patch to make the BCC header field appear (minus the recipient list of course)? -Lee Ann Corporate Information and Computing Center U.S. Army Research Laboratory Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD leeann@arl.mil From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 07:30:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18020; Wed, 28 Aug 96 07:30:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id HAA25406 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 07:23:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aretha.jax.org (aretha.jax.org [192.43.249.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id HAA25401; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 07:23:02 -0700 Received: from mollie.jax.org (mollie.jax.org [192.233.42.5]) by aretha.jax.org (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA11420; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 10:23:01 -0400 Received: from mollie by mollie.jax.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06050; Wed, 28 Aug 96 10:22:59 EDT Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 10:22:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Gregg TeHennepe X-Sender: gat@mollie Reply-To: Gregg TeHennepe To: Pine bug list Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Hangs during send Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Pine folks, Ever since upgrading from Pine 3.91 on SunOS 4.1.3_U1 some time ago, I've been experiencing periodic (a couple of times a week) hangs while sending a message with each subsequent version release. This continues in v3.95. I have not been able to isolate any obvious patterns; it happens on messages destined for addressbook folks and for directly addressed mail; I thought it might be caused by a nameservice problem, but my machine readily resolves the MX records for the addresses in a hung send. The only remedy is to kill -TERM from another session (and I have Ctrl-z enabled). I've attached the .pine-debug output on the most recent instance, tho I don't see anything obvious there either. It looks to be hanging just before the call to the SMTP server, which is the same machine running stock Sun Sendmail 4.1/SMI-4.1. Any thoughts/suggestions? Cheers - Gregg Gregg TeHennepe | Unix Systems Administrator | The Jackson Laboratory gat@jax.org | http://www.jax.org/~gat | Bar Harbor, Maine USA === send called === ---- COMPOSER ---- - build_address - (davem, paula) - adrbk_lookup_by_nick(davem) (in /u/anita/cs/gat/.addressbook) - - adrbk_lookup_by_addr(david_manski@nps.gov) (in /u/anita/cs/gat/.addressbook) - - adrbk_lookup_by_addr(david_manski@nps.gov) (in /u/anita/cs/gat/.addressbook) - - adrbk_lookup_by_nick(paula) (in /u/anita/cs/gat/.addressbook) - - adrbk_lookup_by_addr(paul.anderson@state.me.us) (in /u/anita/cs/gat/.addressbo ok) - - build_address - () new win size -----<44 90>------ Want_to read: y (121) new win size -----<44 90>------ ** Received SIGTERM ** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 11:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30900; Wed, 28 Aug 96 11:04:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id KAA07043 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 10:59:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id KAA07037 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 10:59:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvosR-00038BC; Wed, 28 Aug 96 10:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: MATHER Subject: Incomplete mail domain Date: 28 Aug 1996 17:58:30 GMT Message-Id: <5021c6$jn2@test-sun.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I start up pine, I get the message "Incomplete maildomain "newserver" " What can I do to correct this. I am not on the internet, so I don't really have a domain because I am not connecting anywhere? newserver is the name of the Unix box, BTW, I didn't name it. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 12:08:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32439; Wed, 28 Aug 96 12:08:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA02726 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 12:05:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id MAA02718 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 12:05:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvprc-00038TC; Wed, 28 Aug 96 12:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Frank Wagner Subject: "A" in folderoverview Date: 28 Aug 1996 17:34:26 +0200 Message-Id: Hello, i don't know if this is a bug or something else, I just want to mention this. When you reply (answer) to a message there is normaly an "A" in front of the Subjectline like this: " A 2 Aug 25 Dirk Soren (3,172) Re: gh" But when you postpone a reply, continue this message and then send it, this "A" does not appear in the that first field like normaly. Is this a configproblem or just missing. I'm using pine3.95 for linux. Frank -- frank@sazza.ruhr.de 2:2448/4501.45 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 12:58:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31229; Wed, 28 Aug 96 12:58:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA10231 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 12:55:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id MAA10226 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 12:55:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvqhG-00038BC; Wed, 28 Aug 96 12:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@neumann.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Command line option wanted. Date: 28 Aug 1996 17:46:50 GMT Message-Id: References: <4vurml$ris@hummin.sol.net> mjenks@solaria.sol.net (Mark Jenks): > Pine Development Team: Would it be possible to include a command like > option that would give the status of a folder (default: INBOX). > 2 New messages, 5 Old messages, Last time Pine used, etc.. > Don't want it in reverse or bold. Just plain text. > Would be usefull to capture it and use it in a menu. This has been done before: ELM's "readmsg" utility. It's not perfect, actually it is a little buggy. I wish someone would write this thing in Perl... Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 14:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02490; Wed, 28 Aug 96 14:16:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id OAA05789 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 14:10:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id OAA05784 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 14:10:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvrpY-00038BC; Wed, 28 Aug 96 14:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mh252119@hudson.idt.net (Michael Hayden) Subject: Remapped Return Revisited Date: 28 Aug 1996 15:06:45 -0400 Message-Id: <5025c6$pba@hudson.idt.net> Yes, this is the remapped Return being read as a ^J problem all over again. Yes, I'm using NCSA Telnet 2.6 for the Mac. I've already searched the archives thoroughly; this problem is mentioned several times, but no one ever seems to get a solid answer. Here's my story: I've been using Pine for three years on a Solaris 2.5 machine, using NCSA Telnet with no problems whatsoever. I recently switched to a new ISP running FreeBSD and BSD/OS (depending on which machine you're on). Right away I had the classic ^C (cancel command) and ^J (auto-justification) problems. I checked the limited preferences in NCSA Telnet and verified the problem was not there. Yes, I made sure the Interrupt key was not mapped to ^C... Someone suggested to me that NCSA Telnet was in fact sending ^J^M (linefeed/carriage return) as its Return, and the telnetd on the BSD machines was not weeding out the ^J before sending the Returns on to Pine. And of course, Pine reads the ^J as a call for auto-justification (or file attachment, if you're in the header). Another user recommended using the Enter key on the number pad as a workaround, but it still trips the ^J about 30% of the time. I called NCSA's support line, and they said that even if that was true, the Telnet project has been discontinued and they can't do anything about it. Yesterday, the sysadmins at this new ISP started compiling Pine 3.95 on all of their machines. On the machines running FreeBSD, both the ^C and ^J were fixed immediately. However, on the main server running BSD/OS, only the ^C problem was fixed. The Return key is still screwed up. I asked the sysadmin if it was possible that Pine's system configurations were set differently on the BSD/OS machine that they were on the FreeBSD machines, but he assured me that they were not. Using the *same* copy of Telnet with the *same* settings all around, Pine 3.95 works fine on Solaris 2.5 machines and FreeBSD machines, but not on a BSD/OS machine. Would this imply that the telnetd on that BSD/OS machine is what is remapping my Returns? If so, what could I or my sysadmin do about it? Is this something that could be taken care of by strategically-placed tset, stty, or termios commands? Thanks. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Michael "Doc" Hayden - mh252119@mail.idt.net - http://ally.ios.com/~mh252119/ Silverhammer Wordsmiths - Elegantly simple, simply elegant. Ask for info. "What you are about to see is real. These are not actors; they're directors." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 15:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03645; Wed, 28 Aug 96 15:00:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id OAA13301 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 14:55:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id OAA13294 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 14:55:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvsZf-00038TC; Wed, 28 Aug 96 14:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Public Library Subject: to all Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 14:28:58 -0700 Message-Id: <3224BA1A.509@dagy.danderyd.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How do I do to send mail to all of my "friends" listen is the addressbook?? I mean the same mail... Thanks! dayt94@dagy.danderyd.se From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 15:10:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03929; Wed, 28 Aug 96 15:10:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id PAA13590 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 15:04:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from phantom.cac.washington.edu (phantom.cac.washington.edu [140.142.110.47]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id PAA13585 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 15:04:12 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by phantom.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.07) with SMTP id PAA21140; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 15:04:08 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 15:04:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Markolf Gudjons Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Q: Sort order for reading news In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You might try using $O instead of $s... it's the closest you can get to threading at this time. -teg On Wed, 28 Aug 1996, Markolf Gudjons wrote: > Hi, > > is there any way to state a different sort order for news articles than > for mail messages? > > E.g., I'd like to keep mail sorted by date of arrival, but news should be > sorted by subject to keep threads together. Always having to hit "$S" is a > bit annoying. > > > Thanks! > > -- > Markolf Gudjons, Local System Administrator, EED/I > > _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ Ericsson Eurolab Deutschland > _/ _/ _/ _/ Ericsson-Allee 1, D-52134 Herzogenrath > _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ Germany (PGP key available) > _/ _/ _/ _/ email: eedmgu@eed.ericsson.se > _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ phone: +49 2407 575-665 | fax: -150 > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 15:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04956; Wed, 28 Aug 96 15:47:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id PAA14714 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 15:43:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu (wvnvaxb.wvnet.edu [129.71.2.17]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id PAA14706 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 15:43:35 -0700 Received: from NCCVAX.WVNET.EDU by wvnvms.wvnet.edu (PMDF V5.0-7 #13927) id <01I8TIAW1NWGE0GHFE@wvnvms.wvnet.edu> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 18:43:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nccvax.wvnet.edu by nccvax.wvnet.edu (PMDF V5.0-6 #15702) id <01I8TIAG8LSG001GTX@nccvax.wvnet.edu>; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 18:42:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 18:42:50 -0500 (EST) From: Stormy Subject: Deleting email permanately To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Aknowlton Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I'm currently using pine for my email and would like to know if the explunge command deletes the mail permanately or if there is some other command you have to use to keep it out of the directory. Someone told me that when she gets into her main mail directory she has to compress because her pine mail is still there. Stormy Aknowlton@nccvax.wvnet.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05179; Wed, 28 Aug 96 16:11:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA15205 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:08:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA15200 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:07:56 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 29 Aug 96 07:12:44 +0800 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 07:05:02 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Frank Wagner Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "A" in folderoverview In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 28 Aug 1996, Frank Wagner wrote: > i don't know if this is a bug or something else, I just want to mention this. > When you reply (answer) to a message there is normaly an "A" in front of the > Subjectline like this: > > " A 2 Aug 25 Dirk Soren (3,172) Re: gh" > > But when you postpone a reply, continue this message and then send it, > this "A" does not appear in the that first field like normaly. > Is this a configproblem or just missing. I'm using pine3.95 for linux. Its something else. It is a future enhancement. Currently pine cannot track the status of a reply. You can always use the *(flag) command to change the status manually. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05493; Wed, 28 Aug 96 16:18:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA15358 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:14:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id QAA15353 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:14:16 -0700 Received: from localhost (dlm@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.07/8.7.3+UW96.07) with SMTP id QAA29009 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:14:15 -0700 X-Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for dlm+postmaster; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 15:30:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by shivams.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id PAA27123 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 15:30:25 -0700 X-Received: from ALPHA1.FMARION.EDU (ALPHA1.FMARION.EDU [192.251.46.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id PAA17325 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 15:30:21 -0700 X-Received: from swampfox.fmarion.edu by ALPHA1.FMARION.EDU with SMTP; Mon, 26 Aug 1996 18:30:09 -0400 X-Received: from EGAUSE.FMARION.EDU by swampfox.fmarion.edu via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI.AUTO) for @VAX2.FMARION.EDU:owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA13333; Mon, 26 Aug 96 18:29:56 -0400 Message-Id: <322217BE.7218@fmarion.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 18:31:42 -0300 From: Robert Edward Gause Reply-To: egause@fmarion.edu Organization: Francis Marion University X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: VMS Pine and Mail.mai Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: I fixed this problem on our system by mailing a default message to new accounts as I create the accounts. That way the mail.mai exist. My guess is you are looking for a better way than that, but I hope my little bit of words help you. Edward Gause EGause@fmarion.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04819; Wed, 28 Aug 96 16:32:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA09183 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:26:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA09176 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:26:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvtw5-00038BC; Wed, 28 Aug 96 16:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Spool Lock Error Message Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 13:26:35 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 28 Aug 1996, John Davis wrote: > I am working with a new startup ISP in installing IMAP and PC-Pine. The IMAP > daemon seems to be working fine now, except whenever a user uses PC-Pine to > access files off the IMAP server when the user opens a message in his in-box > he gets an error message saying "Error Creating > /var/spool/mail/xxxxxxxx.lock.yyyyyy.zzzzz", where xxxxxxxx is the users > login ID and yyyyy and zzzzz are a series of numbers. Now the message is > retrieved and displayed properly, but the annoying error message still > appears. This only happens with the in-box, access to folders doesn't cause > the message to display. Any suggestions on how to get rid of the message? This message indicates a very serious configuration problem on the server. The imapd daemon is not able to create the lock file, used to prevent mail delivery (from sendmail, etc.) when imapd is reading and especially when imapd is rewriting the mail file. If a locking failure occurs at the right time, mail will be lost and/or the mail file will be damaged. The most likely cause is that the server has the protection of the /var/spool/mail directory set so that world-write is not permitted. The correct protection on this directory is 1777; that is, world write with the sticky bit. Certain sorcerer's apprentices believe that /var/spool/mail should be protected to deny world write on "security grounds", based on an incorrect notion that making every email program run with privileges is more secure than closing the relatively modest loopholes caused by links and improper ownerships in this directory. The ISP needs to make sure that /var/spool/mail is protected 1777, and that his mail delivery program (typically /bin/mail) has all the current safeguards against links and incorrect mailbox file ownerships. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:41:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05965; Wed, 28 Aug 96 16:41:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA09549 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:38:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from yarra.vicnet.net.au (yarra.vicnet.net.au [203.10.72.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA09544 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:37:59 -0700 Received: from rvib2.rvib.org.au (rvib2.rvib.org.au [203.3.138.1]) by yarra.vicnet.net.au (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA06778 for <@yarra.vicnet.net.au:pine-info@cac.washington.edu>; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 09:36:58 +1000 Received: from rvib2.rvib.org.au by rvib2.rvib.org.au id aa06894; 29 Aug 96 9:36 AEST Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 09:36:01 +1000 (AEST) From: Les Wallis To: Pine Info Group Subject: Possible bug Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This morning users reported our system was running very slowly. Investigation revealed a rogue Pine process which was still running, and gobbling up system resources, although the user concerned was not logged in. Thus ps showed the process attached to process 1. The user is on a PC running the ICETEN terminal emulator via RS232 RIO Remote Terminal Adapters onto a Pentium 75 server running SCO Unix 3.4.2. I suspect the user just turned her machine off rather than logging out. Usually this leaves the current session running - whatever it is. In this case she must have been somewhere in Pine. Does this problem ring a bell with anyone? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 17:16:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06913; Wed, 28 Aug 96 17:16:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id RAA16893 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 17:10:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from will.sp.cst.nihon-u.ac.jp (ppp.media.cst.nihon-u.ac.jp [133.43.98.139]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id RAA16885 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 17:10:07 -0700 Received: from localhost (fukase@localhost) by will.sp.cst.nihon-u.ac.jp (8.7.5+2.6Wbeta7/3.5Wbeta-sp3.9) with SMTP id BAA23064; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 01:06:51 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 01:06:49 +0900 (JST) From: FUKASE Mikio Reply-To: FUKASE Mikio To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: pine-j-port@noc.titech.ac.jp Subject: Re: iso-2022-jp In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, Mark Crispin wrote: ... > On 23 Aug 1996, Tony wrote: ... > > I was wondering if there was some way I could decipher or decode > > iso-2022-jp code using PINE in order to render it into either its Kanji/kana > > equivalent or into some for which is readable in English???? Or do I have > > to go a different route? > > ISO-2022-JP is simply mixed ASCII (English) and JIS (Japanese) text in 7 > bits, using ESC codes to shift back and forth between them. Your terminal > emulator may support this encoding as "JIS7". > > Pine does not do too well with ESC codes. Each ESC code occupies three > bytes, which Pine thinks occupies screen space even when it doesn't. For > this reason, I usually convert the data to 8-bit code (either EUC or SJIS) > using the display-filter functionality along with the "nkf" program (if > you do serious work with Japanese on Unix, you probably have a copy of > nkf). > > You may need to do some experimentation to get it working, and you should > also be sure that you're using the latest version of Pine. Earlier > versions of Pine have known problems working with Japanese text. I think that Tony has a choice to use PINE 3.95LJ1.1b2 if he would like to handle Japanese character messages with pine on his machine. PINE 3.95LJ1.1b2 is a Japanese patched version of pine 3.95. FTP it from `ftp.noc.titech.ac.jp' in `/pub/tmp/aki/pine/'. If you use it, you also have to prepare `CANNA' which is a network-extensible Kana-to-Kanji conversion system for inputting Japanese character code, and `kterm' with X Window (which include k14 font) for displaying Japanese character. The other choice (dose not use pine): Prepare `Mule' and MUA(Mail User Agent) which supports ISO-2022-JP and is used with Mule (such as `mnews',`mh (mh-6.8.3-JP.2c)', `Mew'...). It goes without saying that use `kterm' with X Windows System and `CANNA'(or `Wnn'). `Mule' is a MULtilingual Enhancement to GNU Emacs. It can handle not only ASCII characters (7 bits) and ISO Latin-1 (8 bits), but also Japanese, Chinese, Korean (16 bits) coded in the ISO-2022 standard and its variants (e.g. EUC, Compound Text). FTP it from `sh.wide.ad.jp' in `/JAPAN/mule', or `etlport.etl.go.jp' in `/pub/mule'. I hope this information proves useful. --- _(((_ I'm gonna live and work ------- o00o- ` ^ ' --o00o --- for tomorrow. Aug.29,'96 FUKASE,Mikio fukase@cst.nihon-u.ac.jp(NeXTMail OK) --------------------------------------- "Let's go to MARS!" -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 18:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07199; Wed, 28 Aug 96 18:39:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id SAA18249 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 18:35:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id SAA18244 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 18:35:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvvwr-00038BC; Wed, 28 Aug 96 18:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Duration of informational messages? Date: 28 Aug 1996 14:09:00 GMT Message-Id: <501jts$rmm@due.unit.no> References: In article , W Halverson wrote: >I've poured over the man pages for pine without luck. > >(How) can one alter the duration of the informational displays such as >"Last message deleted"? It obviously is coded into the program since >it lasts far longer than the time necessary to actually delete the >message(s). In my setup (the usual one, I assume) the display lasts until I do something, but it isn't a delay per se.. there is an option called status-message-delay, you might try to set it to 0 (the default) if it isn't already? Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 19:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08081; Wed, 28 Aug 96 19:00:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id SAA18520 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 18:57:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from phantom.cac.washington.edu (phantom.cac.washington.edu [140.142.110.47]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id SAA18509 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 18:57:16 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by phantom.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.07) with SMTP id SAA23479; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 18:57:13 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 18:57:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: W Halverson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Duration of informational messages? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Are you assuming that you can't do anything until the message goes away? That is not the case. The only time user input is blocked by an informational message is when it's important enough to want to guarantee you a chance to read it *AND* the user input would result in overwriting that msg too soon. Pine denotes this situation by putting angle brackets at the beginning and end of the message text, in addition to the normal square brackets. -teg On Tue, 27 Aug 1996, W Halverson wrote: > I've poured over the man pages for pine without luck. > > (How) can one alter the duration of the informational displays such as > "Last message deleted"? It obviously is coded into the program since > it lasts far longer than the time necessary to actually delete the > message(s). > > It is kind of annoying to have to wait so long. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 20:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08409; Wed, 28 Aug 96 20:20:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA12958 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 20:15:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id UAA12953 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 20:15:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvxVl-00038TC; Wed, 28 Aug 96 20:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tcheney@lexis.pop.upenn.edu (Timothy P. Cheney) Subject: Re: Pine on AIX Date: 28 Aug 1996 15:03:06 GMT Message-Id: <501n3a$lav@netnews.upenn.edu> References: <322376bb.64809547@205.164.176.1> Michael Polak (mpolak@exit109.com) wrote: : I'm running Pine 3.92 on AIX 3.2.5. : When I check my mail box with pine I have 6 messages. When I check my : mail with mail I have 6 messages. : Now I run su to get super user permissions and when I check my mail : with mail I still have 6 messages. But, Pine tells me I have no : messages. Why can't Pine see these??? mail is probably using $MAIL as its inbox. $MAIL is not changed when you su. pine use your username which does change to root to find your inbox. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | tcheney@pop.upenn.edu | | Timothy P. Cheney (215) 898-3197 | | Population Studies Center | | 239 McNeil/6298 | | University of Pennsylvania | | Philadelphia, PA 19104 | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 20:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05926; Wed, 28 Aug 96 20:46:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA19881 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 20:42:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from franklin.cris.com (franklin.cris.com [199.3.12.31]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id UAA19876 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 20:42:10 -0700 Received: from mariner.cris.com (mariner [199.3.12.169]) by franklin.cris.com (8.7.5/(96/08/20 2.48)) id XAA23793; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 23:41:05 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from localhost by mariner.cris.com (4.1) id AA20701; Wed, 28 Aug 96 23:40:54 EDT Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 23:40:53 -0400 (EDT) From: RAMY Reply-To: RAMY To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: newsgroup Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I tried to send to multiple newsgroup. with a comma. It says sending. But later I get a message from some other place in charge of newsgroup and says couldn't post. It delete all the message I wrote from the newsgroup I posted. Why is that? What is the maximum you can send multiple newsgroup with out having to bounce back to you and get rejected? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 21:19:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09164; Wed, 28 Aug 96 21:19:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA20336 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 21:16:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id VAA20331 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 21:16:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvyUg-00038BC; Wed, 28 Aug 96 21:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@ibm.net (root) Subject: Re: Can Pine do POP? FAQ? Date: 28 Aug 1996 16:13:18 GMT Message-Id: <501r6u$48go@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> References: <32235561.5B6A7AF1@ibm.net> Fred Heitkamp (fheitka@ibm.net) wrote: : Can pine do pop, and is there a pine FAQ? : I appologize in advance if these question has been : asked many times before. I set my inbox-path to {pop01.ny.us.ibm.net/pop3}INBOX. Pine asked for my user name and password. I see the RD and SD LEDs flash a bit and then pine freezes. When I send a kill -HUP to pine the xterm says "segmentation fault" I am trying pine 3.91 on Linux. Anyone see what I did wrong? Thanks! This is what happend from the .pine-crash file: ---- FOLDER SCREEN ---- About to open folder "INBOX" inbox: "INBOX" expunge and close mail stream "mail/saved-messages" IMAP 11:50 8/28 mm_log babble: QUALCOMM Pop server derived from UCB (version 2.1.4-R3) at pop01.ny.us .ibm.net starting. Opened folder "{pop01.ny.us.ibm.net/pop3}" with 35 messages Sorting by Arrival ---- MAIL INDEX ---- ---- INDEX MANAGER ---- about to end_tty_driver Pine Panic: Received abort signal save_debug_on_crash: Version 3.91: debug level 2 : Wed Aug 28 11:50:37 1996 Attempting to save debug file to /home/heitkamp/.pine-crash -- ######################################################### # Fred Heitkamp # # OS/2 Warp, Linux x86, Linux m68k, Amiga # # fheitka@ibm.net fheitkamp@worldnet.att.net # ######################################################### From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 21:24:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09398; Wed, 28 Aug 96 21:24:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA13811 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 21:21:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id VAA13806 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 21:21:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvyZu-00038WC; Wed, 28 Aug 96 21:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cx163@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Morton Lee Cohen) Subject: Proper Newsgroup for Question? Date: 28 Aug 1996 15:28:07 GMT Message-Id: <501oi7$54v@freenet-news.carleton.ca> Hi All, Don't know which newsgroup is proper for posting this question so please reply, thanks. What happened to gopher://services.more.net? It is no longer reachable via lynx. Thanks in advance. Also and on topic, Is there a free newgroup server, where one can point a freenet copy of a User's Pine copy to. Virgin Islands Paradise Freenet doesn't carry the Usenet newsgroups, but has Pine and that configuration line is configurable by the individual user. So I would like to make use of it. Thanks! NCF doesn't have PINE, yet. -- Morton Lee Cohen --- E-Mail cx163@freenet.carleton.ca Resume' : Creator of "I Dream of Jeannie" - 1961 and Creator and Developer of "XUXA" - 1965 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 21:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09665; Wed, 28 Aug 96 21:52:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA20811 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 21:48:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (giasdl01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id VAA20806 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 21:48:31 -0700 Received: by giasdl01.vsnl.net.in; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/23Apr96-0134AM) id AA05996; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 10:19:39 +0500 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 10:19:38 +0500 (GMT+0500) From: Ramit Luthra To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug (ID N656B): Received Abort Signal (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1917791915-841151121=:14861" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1917791915-841151121=:14861 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 18:05:21 +0500 (GMT+0500) From: Ramit Luthra To: Pine Developers Subject: Bug (ID N656B): Received Abort Signal Was creating my Mailing List and when I had created a large database the pine crashed saying: Bug in Pine Detected: "Received Abort Signal" Exiting pine Please help me as a lot of work has gone into the database Ramit Luthra --0-1917791915-841151121=:14861 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = rluthra, full = Ramit Luthra home = /user1/subscribers/rluthra home_dir= /user1/subscribers/rluthra hostname= giasdl01.vsnl.net.in localdom= vsnl.net.in userdom= NULL maildom= giasdl01.vsnl.net.in cur_cntxt= mail/[] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= inbox msgmap: tot=0, cur=0, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival inbox is mail_stream term type=vt100, ttyname=/dev/ttyqa, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Ramit Luthra user-id : rluthra nntp-server : news.uni-stuttgart.de inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : mail/[] news-collections : *{news.uni-stuttgart.de/nntp}[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail read-message-folder : read-mail signature-file : .signature address-book : addbook feature-list : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : expunge-without-confirm : signature-at-bottom : quit-without-confirm : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : auto-open-next-unread : enable-flag-cmd : show-selected-in-boldface saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : No printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 96.8 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/user1/subscribers/rluthra/.pinerc) ======= nntp-server : news.uni-stuttgart.de read-message-folder : read-mail address-book : addbook feature-list : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : expunge-without-confirm : signature-at-bottom : quit-without-confirm : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : auto-open-next-unread : enable-flag-cmd : show-selected-in-boldface use-only-domain-name : No last-time-prune-ques : 96.8 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly enable-bounce-cmd enable-flag-cmd no-enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys --0-1917791915-841151121=:14861-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 22:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10130; Wed, 28 Aug 96 22:38:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id WAA21433 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 22:36:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id WAA21428 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 22:36:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uvzk6-00038BC; Wed, 28 Aug 96 22:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: keric@cyberiron.com (Eric Anderson) Subject: .pine-debug(x) in .pinerc? Date: 28 Aug 1996 18:00:59 GMT Message-Id: <5021gr$ebl@newshub.atmnet.net> Does pine allow an setting in the .pinerc to disable the .pine-debug files a la starting with the '-d 0' option? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 23:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10777; Wed, 28 Aug 96 23:53:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id XAA15716 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 23:48:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id XAA15711 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 23:48:36 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 29 Aug 96 14:53:20 +0800 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 14:45:37 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: Eric Anderson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: .pine-debug(x) in .pinerc? In-Reply-To: <5021gr$ebl@newshub.atmnet.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 28 Aug 1996, Eric Anderson wrote: > Does pine allow an setting in the .pinerc to disable the .pine-debug files a la starting with the '-d 0' option? Yes. -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 00:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10792; Thu, 29 Aug 96 00:03:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id XAA15814 for pine-info-out; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 23:56:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id XAA15809 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 1996 23:56:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uw0xM-00038BC; Wed, 28 Aug 96 23:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kjell Andresen Subject: Q: Full hostnames in the Message-Ids Date: 29 Aug 1996 06:41:04 GMT Message-Id: <503e20$rh@ratatosk.uio.no> Abstract of a message send to Pine Developers: > Hello! > > I'm trying to set correct message-ids on outgoing mail and news. At our > site this is "ulrik.uio.no" which in turn is a correct and valid address. > > Here is the problem-header: > Message-ID: > -should have been: > Message-ID: Message-ID: [snipp} > > 7. Unmodified value (host name) from an external database > > -Not used. > > It seems like pine v3.95 does not put message-ids together as the > documentation claims. The answer is: Only the last item (#7) applies when computing the Message-Id. Perhaps we should clarify the Tech Notes on this point... ---------------------------- Q: Can anyone write me how I can set up my system in order to put the domain name "uio.no" after the name of the sending host? domain name = uio.no nis domain = uio TIA -- -Kjell From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 01:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11299; Thu, 29 Aug 96 01:43:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA23671 for pine-info-out; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 01:35:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from erm1.u-strasbg.fr (erm1.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.61]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id BAA23666 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 01:35:54 -0700 Received: from yoda.u-strasbg.fr (bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.66]) by erm1.u-strasbg.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA19076 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 10:35:52 +0200 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 10:35:44 +0200 (MET DST) From: Bruno Boettcher X-Sender: bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I have recently upgraded my linux system to Slackware 3.1. I have also compiled the 3.95 pine.... I am working with imap, leaving my mailbox exclusively on one host and reading it from another. I setted this through the customization menu setting the user-domain,smtp-server,inbox-path variables. I had this configuration also before and it worked without problems and fast. Now as I had the a.out system using pine 3.91 checking the mailboxes was fast and without errors. Actually with the elf system and pine 3.95 checking the mailboxes is very slow and I get after some hours of active pine lots of "inbox closed due to errors" messages. Further often pine dosn't show me the latest messages arrived in the (distant) inbox so what's going wrong? I am not on the mailing list (BTW could some one tell me how to register?) so please make at least a CC to me per mail. ciao bboett@erm1.u-strasbg.fr From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 03:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12604; Thu, 29 Aug 96 03:42:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id DAA18246 for pine-info-out; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 03:33:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id DAA18241 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 03:33:47 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59:24/EUnetD-2.5.4.c) via EUnet id MAA01501; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 12:33:34 +0200 Message-Id: <199608291031.MAA08220@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id MAA08220; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 12:31:04 +0200 From: Rudolf Kompf Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 12:08:51 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: kompf@m_post.ife-le.de To: Public Library Cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: to all In-Reply-To: <3224BA1A.509@dagy.danderyd.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 28 Aug 1996, Public Library wrote: -> How do I do to send mail to all of my "friends" listen is the -> addressbook?? I mean the same mail... -> -> Thanks! -> -> dayt94@dagy.danderyd.se -> Goto Main-Menu, choose addressbook. Build a list with your friends with a suitable listname. If the friends already in addressbook, you may use the list-mode to choose any subset of your friends. After this in Compose you have to input the listname only. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 03:49:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00877; Thu, 29 Aug 96 03:49:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id DAA18404 for pine-info-out; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 03:43:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id DAA18399 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 03:43:18 -0700 Received: from horn by ns.NL.net (5.65b/CWI-3.3) id AA27039; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 12:33:17 +0200 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 12:22:18 +0200 (EEST) From: Nico van der Horn To: The Pine Discussion List Subject: Checking New Multiple Incoming Folders (3.91) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just installed procmail and configured it to split my incoming mail into folders in a new directory ($HOME/inbox). The default folder is called "default" :-) In .pinerc I made the following changes: : inbox-path=~/inbox/default : incoming-folders=~/inbox/test, ~/inbox/pine, ~/inbox/ : My question: The TAB-key initiates a check for new mail in the incoming folders ONLY when INBOX (~/inbox/default) is opened. When one of the additional folders is open, pressing the TAB-key results in 'No more new messages'. When I go back to the INBOX, the TAB-key results in the proposal to open the folder with the new messages. Is it possible to do use the check while in an open additional incoming folder, and how ? --- nico@vanderhorn.nl (N.J. van der Horn), VANDERHORN VOF, Voorstraat 55, 3135 HW Vlaardingen, The Netherlands, Tel +31 10 2486060, Fax +31 10 2486061 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 04:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12168; Thu, 29 Aug 96 04:02:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id DAA25194 for pine-info-out; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 03:56:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id DAA25189 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 03:56:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uw4k0-00038BC; Thu, 29 Aug 96 03:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Woodcock Subject: setting a fixed vaule to reply-to or from fields Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 17:26:51 -0400 Message-Id: <3224B99B.3F82@merchantstire.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello, i need to perform the following, please help. problem: i'd like to set a vaule to the From: field. scenerio: I have multiple hosts with multiple people using the same login account. ie HOST A person a, person b, person c each of these people use the same login. Each host is unique, ie remote location. so the shared login is different from the host but the pine account is the host name (remote location name). the problem: i need variables Reply-to: or From: to contain the host@domain instead of login_account@domain. we are using pine 3.95 and it was compiled to allow change to the From field. iam unable to set a value to the From field or to the Reply-to field. i am using the /opt/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed file. could some one please post an example of how to assign a value to one of these variables. i can get the reply-to field to appear but can't assign the value. i've been looking all over for the info and just can't seem to find the correct areas. johnw -- +---------------------+ John Woodcock, Sys Admin | M E R C H A N T S | Merchants Inc. | Tire & Auto Centers | 9073 Euclid Ave +---------------------+ Manassas, VA 22110 [ ] 800 368 7783 ext 2146 [ ] mailto:johnw@merchantstire.com [ ] http://www.merchantstire.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 05:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03821; Thu, 29 Aug 96 05:08:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id EAA19410 for pine-info-out; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 04:58:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz (visla.utia.cas.cz [147.231.12.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id EAA19405 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 04:58:48 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA19985; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 13:58:42 +0200 (METDST) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 13:58:42 +0200 (METDST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= {Vladimir Solnicky} Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bc=2E_Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: The Pine Discussion List Cc: root Subject: Re: Can Pine do POP? FAQ? In-Reply-To: <501r6u$48go@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Message-Id: Organization: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_=28=DATI?= =?ISO-8859-2?Q?A=29_AV_=C8R?= Disposition-Notification-To: vs+disposition@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 28 Aug 1996, root wrote: > Date: 28 Aug 1996 16:13:18 GMT > From: root > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Can Pine do POP? FAQ? >=20 > Fred Heitkamp (fheitka@ibm.net) wrote: > : Can pine do pop, and is there a pine FAQ? > : I appologize in advance if these question has been > : asked many times before. >=20 > I set my inbox-path to {pop01.ny.us.ibm.net/pop3}INBOX. > Pine asked for my user name and password. I see the RD and SD > LEDs flash a bit and then pine freezes. > I am trying pine 3.91 on Linux. Anyone see what I did wrong?=20 > Thanks! Pine 3.91 has an error in its POP 3 code. Use version 3.95 (seems to me i= t works well or at least much better when accessing POP 3 mailboxes). Regards, V. S. Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD, =DATIA AV =C8R, Pod vod=E1renskou v=EC=BE=ED 4, 182 08 Praha 8-Libe=F2, +42 2 6605/2364, telefax: +42 2 6884677, vs@utia.cas.cz, http://www.utia.cas.cz/vs/vs-home-cz.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 08:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05506; Thu, 29 Aug 96 08:25:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id IAA28873 for pine-info-out; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 08:18:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ALPHA1.FMARION.EDU (ALPHA1.FMARION.EDU [192.251.46.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id IAA28868 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 08:18:46 -0700 Received: from egause.fmarion.edu by ALPHA1.FMARION.EDU with SMTP; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 11:18:29 -0400 Message-Id: <3225A71E.5E29@fmarion.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 11:20:14 -0300 From: Robert Edward Gause Reply-To: egause@fmarion.edu Organization: Francis Marion University X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Will not send mail on AXP VMS PINE. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I try to mail from Pine, I get the following: Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". Exiting pine. We, Francis Marion University, have a Alpha 2100 with two 275 Mhz CPU's, and we are using Multinet from TGV/Cisco. I have compiled the code with the following commands and tested Pine after doing so, and received the same error message each time. @vmsbuild multinet and @vmsbuild __Alpha__ multinet I have download several versions of Pine and I get same the same error message. The versions I have tried are the following: Ver 3.85, Ver 3.91b5, and the version that comes on the Freeware CDROM of Ver 7.0 OpenVMS. In the Pine.conf file I have the following set. user-domain=fmarion.edu smtp-server=alpha1.fmarion.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 09:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17798; Thu, 29 Aug 96 09:40:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA24614 for pine-info-out; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 09:37:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA24609 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 09:37:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwA12-00038BC; Thu, 29 Aug 96 09:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Richard Hall Subject: alias loop Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 12:25:09 -0400 Message-Id: <3225C465.2A5F@charon.ns.utk.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can no longer send mail with pine, as every time I try, it reports "possible alias loop", then I get from the Mailer-Daemon: ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 554 Possible alias loop 554 No valid recipients ----- Unsent message follows ----- Return-Path: Received: by zool46.bio.utk.edu (5.x/2.8s-UTK) id AA01775; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 12:00:03 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 12:00:03 -0400 From: Rikki Hall Message-Id: <9608291600.AA01775@zool46.bio.utk.edu> No message content is ever included below this. I found one reference to this problem in the pine-list from March 1995, and he got no help. Does anyone know how to fix this, what caused it, anything? Thanks -- Richard Hall Network Services University of Tennessee ** Reply to hall@ns.utk.edu ** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 09:50:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17915; Thu, 29 Aug 96 09:50:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA01398 for pine-info-out; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 09:47:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA01390 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 09:47:19 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 30 Aug 96 00:52:02 +0800 Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 00:44:16 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Eric Anderson Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: .pine-debug(x) in .pinerc? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 29 Aug 1996, Eric Anderson wrote: > Having RTFM'ed many (if not most of the docs), I can't find the setting. > I've got 'pine' aliased to 'pine -d 0 -i -z' but my xterm is loading a > /bin/sh and not recognizing my bash alias. > > What's the setting in .pinerc? Oooopss..... I misread your initial question. Sorry. The "real" answer is "no". Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 11:41:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19000; Thu, 29 Aug 96 11:41:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id LAA04453 for pine-info-out; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 11:37:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id LAA04442 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 11:37:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwBuX-00038BC; Thu, 29 Aug 96 11:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tulpule@cs.unc.edu (Narendra Tulpule) Subject: Howto customize reply quote... AGAIN! Date: 29 Aug 1996 14:07:41 -0400 Message-Id: <504m9d$sv8@angel.cs.unc.edu> Hi all PINE gurus (and some half-baked guru-wannabes) Sometime back, I had posted a query, as follows: While replying, PINE starts the message with On wrote: Please tell me if and how I can customize this line. Someone told me to look into Setup-Config (as if!) and some others posted followups saying they didn't find it. Now will a real guru come forward and show me the path to Nirvana? - Narendra. -- ================================================================ Naren / email:tulpule@cs.unc.edu / 919-962-1937(office)/ SN039. http://www.cs.unc.edu/~tulpule talk:tulpule@boulanger.cs.unc.edu ================================================================ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 12:16:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21456; Thu, 29 Aug 96 12:16:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA28924 for pine-info-out; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 12:12:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id MAA28919 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 12:12:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwCV0-00038TC; Thu, 29 Aug 96 12:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dedek@lexis-nexis.com (Mike Dedek) Subject: Re: Domain name incomplete, etc etc etc Date: 29 Aug 1996 18:37:13 GMT Message-Id: <504o0p$rvp@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> References: <4uqg4e$8km@test-sun.erols.com> You might also consider contacting the administrator/support person for pine at your site. There is a global configuration file that will automatically set this for all users, probably not a bad idea. -Mike Dedek Development Tools Lexis-Nexis In article , hwlester@pobox.com ("Hiram Lester Jr.") writes: |> On 13 Aug 1996, MATHER wrote: |> |> > When I enter pine, I get an error message saying domain name incomplete, |> |> 3.93. From the main menu, choose S)etup and then C)onfiguration. Right |> near the top you will see a setting for user-domain. Set this to the |> domain name. The machine that I had this happen with was From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 15:55:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25931; Thu, 29 Aug 96 15:55:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id PAA11239 for pine-info-out; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 15:52:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc1.nerc.com (nerc1.nerc.com [205.247.120.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id PAA11234 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 15:52:32 -0700 Received: from nerc.com (ppp7.nerc.com [205.247.120.207]) by nerc1.nerc.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA08200; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 18:51:56 -0400 Received: (from luomat@localhost) by nerc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA06920; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 18:52:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199608292252.SAA06920@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.3) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Thu, 29 Aug 96 18:52:21 -0400 To: comp-sys-next-sysadmin@antigone.com, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: sendmail question for someone who knows PINE and NeXT Mail.app Reply-To: luomat@nerc.com Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary PINE has an option: smtp-server = localhost where I can change 'localhost' to be the name of my ISP. Mail goes immediately into the mailq of my ISP, never hitting my mailq. I am wondering how I can config NeXT's Mail.app to do this. (I can config Mail.app to tell it to use a different program than /usr/lib/sendmail) Any suggestions appreciated. TIA TjL -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Timothy J. Luoma http://www.nerc.com/~luomat Email Auto-Responder: for PGP key, use SUBJECT: send-ascii pgpkey for NeXT info, use SUBJECT: send-ascii info Also, see: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next *** My USENET FEED IS GETTING BETTER *** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 16:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25706; Thu, 29 Aug 96 16:00:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id PAA11351 for pine-info-out; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 15:58:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id PAA11346 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 15:58:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwFxR-00038BC; Thu, 29 Aug 96 15:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: heitkamp@ibm.net (Frederick V. Heitkamp) Subject: Reply-To in pine? Date: 29 Aug 1996 20:16:08 GMT Message-Id: <504tq8$33n6@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> I'd like to have a replyto field in my email and posts from pine, but I did not see an option in the config section. How do I do this? -- ######################################################### # Fred Heitkamp # # OS/2 Warp, Linux x86, Linux m68k, Amiga # # fheitka@ibm.net fheitkamp@worldnet.att.net # ######################################################### From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 16:16:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26241; Thu, 29 Aug 96 16:16:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA05008 for pine-info-out; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 16:13:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA05003 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 16:13:47 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 30 Aug 96 07:18:41 +0800 Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 07:10:55 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "Frederick V. Heitkamp" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply-To in pine? In-Reply-To: <504tq8$33n6@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 29 Aug 1996, Frederick V. Heitkamp wrote: > I'd like to have a replyto field in my email and posts > from pine, but I did not see an option in the config > section. How do I do this? By reading the "help" menus?? :-) OPTION: Customized-Headers You may add your own custom headers to all outgoing messages. Each header you specify here must include the header tag (Reply-To:, Approved:, etc.) and may optionally include a value for that header. If you want to see these custom headers each time you compose a message, you must add them to your default composer headers list (see above), otherwise they become part of the rich header set which you only see when you press the rich header (Ctrl-R) command. -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 19:56:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29250; Thu, 29 Aug 96 19:56:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA08966 for pine-info-out; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 19:48:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA08959 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 19:48:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwJZq-00038UC; Thu, 29 Aug 96 19:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "BlueDawg (idiotnot@visi.net)" Subject: Re: Reply-To in pine? Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 16:33:13 -0500 Message-Id: References: <504tq8$33n6@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <504tq8$33n6@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> On 29 Aug 1996, Frederick V. Heitkamp wrote: > I'd like to have a replyto field in my email and posts > from pine, but I did not see an option in the config > section. How do I do this? In the setup, there is a Custom Headers option....Add the following: Reply-To: BlueDawg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 20:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29796; Thu, 29 Aug 96 20:36:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA16244 for pine-info-out; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 20:23:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id UAA16239 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 20:23:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwKAA-00038BC; Thu, 29 Aug 96 20:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chris Womack Subject: Replying Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 17:35:02 -0500 Message-Id: <32261B16.3E5F@norvell.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Whenever I reply to a message, my cursor is inserted before the replied to "text". Is there any way to set the cursor to appear after the quoted text? thanks, Chris cwomack@norvell.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 20:47:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29886; Thu, 29 Aug 96 20:47:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA09649 for pine-info-out; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 20:43:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id UAA09644 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 20:43:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwKQh-00038BC; Thu, 29 Aug 96 20:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mark E. Crane" Subject: Pine freeze ups with clarkson tcp Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 16:22:22 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Pinesters, I'm connecting to Pine, which is running on a unix system through some ancient incarnation of novell netware running on a decrepit 286. When I access Pine, it tends to freeze up after a while. When I access Lynx, no freezing occurs. We are using Clarkson TCP, and assorted other drivers and patches. Anyone have an idea what the problem is? Do you need more info, or is this a known bug? I thank your gestaltian self in advance. Mark Crane From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 21:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30514; Thu, 29 Aug 96 21:36:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA17212 for pine-info-out; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 21:33:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from phantom.cac.washington.edu (phantom.cac.washington.edu [140.142.110.47]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id VAA17207 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 21:33:34 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by phantom.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.07) with SMTP id VAA07388; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 21:33:25 -0700 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 21:33:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Nico van der Horn Cc: The Pine Discussion List Subject: Re: Checking New Multiple Incoming Folders (3.91) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This bug is fixed in recent versions of Pine. (3.95 is current.) A workaround for 3.91 is to add optional labels to the incoming folder specifications. -teg On Thu, 29 Aug 1996, Nico van der Horn wrote: > I just installed procmail and configured it to split my incoming mail > into folders in a new directory ($HOME/inbox). > > The default folder is called "default" :-) > > In .pinerc I made the following changes: > > : > inbox-path=~/inbox/default > : > incoming-folders=~/inbox/test, > ~/inbox/pine, > ~/inbox/ > : > > My question: > > The TAB-key initiates a check for new mail in the incoming folders ONLY > when INBOX (~/inbox/default) is opened. When one of the additional folders > is open, pressing the TAB-key results in 'No more new messages'. When I go > back to the INBOX, the TAB-key results in the proposal to open the folder > with the new messages. > > Is it possible to do use the check while in an open additional incoming > folder, and how ? > > --- > nico@vanderhorn.nl (N.J. van der Horn), VANDERHORN VOF, Voorstraat 55, > 3135 HW Vlaardingen, The Netherlands, Tel +31 10 2486060, Fax +31 10 2486061 > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 21:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30656; Thu, 29 Aug 96 21:45:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA17365 for pine-info-out; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 21:43:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id VAA17354 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 21:43:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwLP0-00038BC; Thu, 29 Aug 96 21:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hurry@imap2.asu.edu Subject: Re: "You Have Mail" Date: 27 Aug 1996 02:59:18 GMT Message-Id: <4vtoa6$6qu@news.asu.edu> References: Linda Emerson (lindae@mlode.com) wrote: : Has anyone figured out why this message occasionally appears when exiting : Pine even if you have no new mail? Sometimes I get it and sometimes I : don't. When I do receive the message, I go back into Pine but never find : new mail, so I exit the program and the message disappears. It's probably a faulty program that checks for new mail which is thinking that pine's writing of folders is the arival of new mail. -- Adam Myrow From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 21:56:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30357; Thu, 29 Aug 96 21:56:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA17491 for pine-info-out; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 21:54:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc3.nerc.com (nerc3.nerc.com [205.247.120.7]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id VAA17486 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 1996 21:54:12 -0700 Received: from [205.247.120.205] ([205.247.120.205]) by nerc3.nerc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA00472; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 00:53:34 -0400 Message-Id: <199608300453.AAA00472@nerc3.nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.3) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Fri, 30 Aug 96 00:53:57 -0400 To: comp-sys-next-sysadmin@antigone.com, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: RE: sendmail question for someone who knows PINE and NeXT Mail.app Reply-To: luomat@nerc.com Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Well lookit that, I've answered my own question. Carl Edman wrote a /bin/sh script called 'sendmail-remote' to do something like this. I've "improved" the code (added some error checking, basically) and submitted my version to next-ftp.peak.org: currently at: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/sendmail-remote.2.0.NIHS.bs.gz ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/sendmail-remote.2.0.README should move to: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/util/sendmail-remote.2.0.NIHS.bs.gz ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/util/sendmail-remote.2.0.README It will also be on peanuts as soon as they get to it (probably later today if the past pattern holds). This can be used as the "Mailer" in Mail.app's Preferences->Expert preference. See the readme for more info TjL -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Timothy J. Luoma http://www.nerc.com/~luomat Email Auto-Responder: for PGP key, use SUBJECT: send-ascii pgpkey for NeXT info, use SUBJECT: send-ascii info Also, see: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next *** My USENET FEED IS GETTING BETTER *** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 00:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32257; Fri, 30 Aug 96 00:29:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id AAA12556 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 00:24:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hp1k200 (u8448.bs.ptb.de [141.25.84.60]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id AAA12551 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 00:24:22 -0700 Received: from w8450.bs.ptb.de by hp1k200 with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA129799842; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 09:24:02 +0200 Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 09:24:33 +0200 () From: "Dr. Dieter Sibold" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Sug (ID AH4IX): Pine 3.94 dumps a core by sending a mail with attachments larger than 1 Mbyte (fwd) Message-Id: X-X-Sender: dsibold@u8448.bs.ptb.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="4827622-14357-841389873=:128" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --4827622-14357-841389873=:128 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: ===================================================================== Dr. Dieter Sibold Tel.: +49-531-592-8410 Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt Fax.: -8450 Projekt 8.41 email: Dieter.Sibold@ptb.de D-38116 Braunschweig, Germany ===================================================================== ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 15:11:01 +0200 () From: "Dr. Dieter Sibold" To: Pine Developers Subject: Sug (ID AH4IX): Pine 3.94 dumps a core by sending a mail with attachments larger than 1 Mbyte Hello, we are using Pine 3.94 on a HP K200 server with OS level 10.10. By trying to send mails which have attachments that have a size of 1 Mbyte or above pine will fail to send of the message. With default debugging the pine process will consume all available cpu time, but cannot send the mail. With debugging level 9 it will stop with the message Memory fault and will dump a core. I enclosed the .pine-debug1 file of this job. Perhaps someone understands it. Does someone has a idea or a solution of this problem? 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Sharon Kraft Subject: pine 3.95, DUnix 4.0, root, addressbook Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 16:43:09 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Seems there is a similar problem with root running pine to that fixed in a posting in the newgroups before (and then fixed in 3.95). At least with Digital Unix, I haven't rebuilt the Solaris and Ultrix versions, which would be the only other 2 systems to which I have access. Upon entering the addressbook screen, for root only, the null address that's used to update the .addressbook (or .addressbook.lu if it's missing, invalid, or needs updating) causes several possible errors. If this should help anyone,the following one line patch to adrbklib.c works for all the cases I've tested: ----------- # diff -c adrbklib.c adrbklib.c.original *** adrbklib.c jeu 29 ao 16:27:07 EDT 1996 --- adrbklib.c.original mer 19 jun 17:33:27 EDT 1996 *************** *** 255,261 **** } if(p = last_cmpnt(ab->filename)){ - if((p - ab->filename) == 1) p++; /* get at least a '/' in for root */ strncpy(path, ab->filename, p - ab->filename - 1); path[p - ab->filename - 1] = '\0'; p = path; --- 255,260 ---- ----------- slk@hopper.unh.edu slk@snakes.unh.edu __ __ __ __ http://pubpages.unh.edu:80/~slk / \ / \ / \ / \ ____________________/ __\/ __\/ __\/ __\_________________________________ ___________________/ /__/ /__/ /__/ /____________________________________ | / \ / \ / \ / \ \____ |/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \ o \ \_____/--< PGP Key fingerprint = E2 D0 B2 F9 4D 91 7C 91 AE 38 62 F3 F3 33 E0 0B From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 01:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32454; Fri, 30 Aug 96 01:06:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA12970 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 01:03:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id BAA12965 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 01:03:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwOV4-00038TC; Fri, 30 Aug 96 01:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: Command line option wanted. Date: 29 Aug 1996 12:37:48 -0500 Message-Id: <504khc$lej@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: <4vurml$ris@hummin.sol.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article , Sven Guckes wrote: > mjenks@solaria.sol.net (Mark Jenks): > > Pine Development Team: Would it be possible to include a command like > > option that would give the status of a folder (default: INBOX). > > 2 New messages, 5 Old messages, Last time Pine used, etc.. > > Don't want it in reverse or bold. Just plain text. > > Would be usefull to capture it and use it in a menu. > > This has been done before: ELM's "readmsg" utility. > It's not perfect, actually it is a little buggy. > I wish someone would write this thing in Perl... > > Sven Are you volunteering? Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 01:07:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32529; Fri, 30 Aug 96 01:07:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA19926 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 01:03:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id BAA19921 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 01:03:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwOVX-00038UC; Fri, 30 Aug 96 01:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brianbhc@aol.com (Brianbhc) Subject: Waiting is the hardest part.... Date: 29 Aug 1996 13:52:51 -0400 Message-Id: <504ldj$a07@newsbf02.news.aol.com> OK, thanks to all that posted, my problem of Pine taking over a minute to appear on a user's screen is not being caused by the command being in brackets [pine] I also have checked our paging space and that seems fine.....so..... Back to the group with the same problem;... Once the pine executable is started, it takes over a minute for the main menu to appear. Thanks, Brian (on the ropes) Goodyear From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 01:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00074; Fri, 30 Aug 96 01:57:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA13509 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 01:47:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from scugat1.abaforum.es (scugat1.abaforum.es [194.179.88.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id BAA13498 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 01:46:57 -0700 Received: from infovia194.abaforum.es (infovia194.abaforum.es [194.179.88.194]) by scugat1.abaforum.es (8.6.12/6.2) with SMTP id KAA11427 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:54:26 +0200 Received: by infovia194.abaforum.es with Microsoft Mail id <01BB9660.971E6900@infovia194.abaforum.es>; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:47:07 +-200 Message-Id: <01BB9660.971E6900@infovia194.abaforum.es> From: "DUSCHOLUX IBERICA S.A." To: "'pine-info@cac.washington.edu'" Subject: non lineal editing system Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:46:17 +-200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable we are interesting to buy a Non-Linear Editing System. Our company make videos for clients, and users inside the company, about = installs of our products, and sales's conventions. this videos are 1 our = long, with text, graphics,animation,photos and camera. We have a Convention center with Barco systems. We need a Non-Linear Editing System to do all of this. We had seen AVID,MATROX, D-VISION, and another how premiere.... but for = example, ours videos have a 1 hour of duration, and premiere , I think, = is more better for 2 or 3 minutes. Other problem is the render, we need don=B4t render, because uone user = of the system is the boss, and he can=B4t wait. We want not render = system, with 2D transitions (is possible 3d too ?). Can you help us, and make an economic pressupost? Our company: DUSCHOLUX IBERICA S.A. c.60 n.20 SECTOR "A" BARCELONA 08040 BARCELONA -SPAIN- Bathroom accesories. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. Carlos BARRA. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 02:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00951; Fri, 30 Aug 96 02:56:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id CAA21054 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 02:48:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id CAA21049 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 02:48:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwQAa-00038TC; Fri, 30 Aug 96 02:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Schleichert Subject: Feature request: anti-spam Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 11:26:25 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII As I get more and more annoyed about mass e-mailings piling up in my inbox, I am requesting that, for some future Pine version, you include an anti-spam feature. This may work like this: Upon first receipt of a spam, I add the sender's address to the Idiots' List maintained in .pinerc. Whenever pine detects a mail from one of the Idiots in my inbox, it does one or more of the following, as selected by .pinerc features: [X] replies to the sender, using a standardized message from a file on my disk (e.g. 'this is an automated spam reply to notify you that any messages from your account are deleted automatically and will not receive any person's attention') - of course w/o adding the standard footer [X] deletes the message from my inbox, optionally saving it into a spam folder To prevent giving too much information to spammers, I'd like to set up different default footers for different areas - for example, no phone number when posting to newsgroups. Any comp.mail.pine subscribers who agree with me, please post your comment so that the Pine makers become aware of a general need for this feature. - Hans -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Schleichert, Dipl.-Phys. Institut fuer Medizinische Psychologie und Verhaltensneurobiologie (Institute of Medical Psychology and Behavioural Neurobiology) Eberhard-Karls-University Gartenstrasse 29 D-72074 Tuebingen, Germany From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 03:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01027; Fri, 30 Aug 96 03:25:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id DAA14582 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 03:23:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id DAA14577 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 03:23:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwQhz-00038TC; Fri, 30 Aug 96 03:21 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pankaj@tigger.cc.uic.edu (Pankaj Saxena) Subject: How to pipe to a file? Date: 30 Aug 1996 09:48:58 GMT Message-Id: <506dea$vbo@piglet.cc.uic.edu> I need to be able to pipe certain incoming emails to a script, which starts off by writing the email to a file, and then processing that file in certain ways. I can't get started on the script because I'm not sure how to pipe an email from Pine to have it written to a file. What should the first command of the script be, to accept the piped email from Pine and write it to a file? Any help is appreciated. +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Pankaj Saxena email: pankaj@uic.edu University of Illinois http://www.uic.edu/~pankaj Chicago, IL, USA finger u09416@uicvm.uic.edu for PGP key +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 06:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02174; Fri, 30 Aug 96 06:08:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id GAA23614 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 06:04:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id GAA23609 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 06:04:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwTAt-00038BC; Fri, 30 Aug 96 05:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: How to pipe to a file? Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 08:57:46 -0400 Message-Id: References: <506dea$vbo@piglet.cc.uic.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <506dea$vbo@piglet.cc.uic.edu> On 30 Aug 1996, Pankaj Saxena wrote: > I need to be able to pipe certain incoming emails to a script, which > starts off by writing the email to a file, and then processing that file > in certain ways. > > I can't get started on the script because I'm not sure how to pipe an > email from Pine to have it written to a file. What should the first > command of the script be, to accept the piped email from Pine and write it > to a file? Here is a small script I use to download a message (email -or- news) to my PC from Un*x Pine. Note that the first "real" command is 'cat'. That writes the message to a file. #!/bin/sh umask 066 trap "rm -f $HOME/tmp/$$download" 0 cat > $HOME/tmp/download.$$$ sz -a $HOME/tmp/download.$$$ rm -f $HOME/tmp/download.$$$ umask 077 Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 06:20:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02298; Fri, 30 Aug 96 06:20:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id GAA16715 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 06:14:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id GAA16710 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 06:14:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwTOH-00038BC; Fri, 30 Aug 96 06:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: cmsg cancel <506p8s$khs@due.unit.no> Control: cancel <506p8s$khs@due.unit.no> Date: 30 Aug 1996 13:11:09 GMT Message-Id: <506p9d$khu@due.unit.no> <506p8s$khs@due.unit.no> was cancelled from within trn. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 06:27:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00161; Fri, 30 Aug 96 06:27:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id GAA23868 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 06:24:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id GAA23863 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 06:24:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwTXo-00038UC; Fri, 30 Aug 96 06:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mjenks@solaria.sol.net (Mark Jenks) Subject: Re: Command line option wanted. Date: 30 Aug 1996 13:21:02 GMT Message-Id: <506pru$1su@hummin.sol.net> References: <4vurml$ris@hummin.sol.net> <504khc$lej@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> Tim Mooney (mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu) wrote: : In article , : Sven Guckes wrote: : > mjenks@solaria.sol.net (Mark Jenks): : > > Pine Development Team: Would it be possible to include a command like : > > option that would give the status of a folder (default: INBOX). : > > 2 New messages, 5 Old messages, Last time Pine used, etc.. : > > Don't want it in reverse or bold. Just plain text. : > > Would be usefull to capture it and use it in a menu. : > : > This has been done before: ELM's "readmsg" utility. : > It's not perfect, actually it is a little buggy. : > I wish someone would write this thing in Perl... : > : > Sven : Are you volunteering? Why should anyone volunteer..?? What I was asking, is to take the bottom on the main screen on entry, and turn it into a command line option. It says "folder "INBOX" has been opened with ## messages". I think it even tells you # of new messages at the same time.. # pine -s foldername(def:INBOX) INBOX: 5 messages, 2 new -s = status of folder default to INBOX allow "ALL". Pine Team? What do you think? It looks like your most of the way there already. Mark Jenks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 06:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02437; Fri, 30 Aug 96 06:33:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id GAA16897 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 06:29:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id GAA16886 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 06:29:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwTb3-00038TC; Fri, 30 Aug 96 06:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mjenks@solaria.sol.net (Mark Jenks) Subject: Re: Howto customize reply quote... AGAIN! Date: 30 Aug 1996 13:25:10 GMT Message-Id: <506q3m$1su@hummin.sol.net> References: <504m9d$sv8@angel.cs.unc.edu> Narendra Tulpule (tulpule@cs.unc.edu) wrote: : Hi all PINE gurus (and some half-baked guru-wannabes) : Sometime back, I had posted a query, as follows: : While replying, PINE starts the message with : On wrote: : Please tell me if and how I can customize this line. : Someone told me to look into Setup-Config (as if!) and some others posted : followups saying they didn't find it. : Now will a real guru come forward and show me the path to Nirvana? : - Narendra. Isn't that via colbain and a shotgun =) ????? (couldn't pass that up.. sorry) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 06:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27579; Fri, 30 Aug 96 06:52:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id GAA24096 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 06:44:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id GAA24091 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 06:44:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwTrR-00038BC; Fri, 30 Aug 96 06:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Clayton Lamm Subject: WANTED - Beta Testers for Sterling Softwares Upcoming TN3270 Intelligent Access Product Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: <322601B6.7F19@redwood-city.sterling.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 20:46:46 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WANTED - Beta Testers for Sterling Software=92s Upcoming TN3270=20 Intelligent Access Product A. STAR:View - A Definition STAR:View is the most advanced intelligent access product in the=20 industry. It is designed to provide easy end user access to mainframe=20 applications from anywhere. The basic principle of STAR:View is similar=20 to that of a standard mainframe emulator. It allows a 3270 data stream=20 to be used from clients other than the traditional "dumb" terminal. =20 Unlike the traditional emulator, however, STAR:View requires no special=20 cards, no tricky configuration, not even any software on the client=20 machine!! Sound too good to be true? It=92s not. STAR:View takes advantage=20 of the growing implementation of the Internet and intranet in major=20 corporations. Simply put, the product translates 3270 data streams into=20 HTML pages and then translates the HTML pages back into 3270 data streams= =20 to send information back to the mainframe. While access is the backbone=20 of the product, it is the intelligence of the access that sets STAR:View=20 apart. B. How STAR:View works =09 STAR:View runs on a Microsoft Windows NT server running the=20 Microsoft Internet Information Server (IIS). The server must have access= =20 to a 3270 data stream over a TN3270 connection and the end users must=20 have access to the STAR:View server. Generally, connections to the=20 server are all made over a TCP/IP network. STAR:View is accessed from any industry standard browser such as=20 Netscape=92s Navigator or Microsoft=92s Internet Explorer. When a user=20 clicks on a link from the STAR:View home page, the server establishes=20 connection with the selected mainframe application and then renders the=20 initial mainframe screen into an HTML page. This rendering is done using= =20 the unique "Learning Agent" architecture of STAR:View. Every screen that= =20 STAR:View translates is rendered using the STAR:View Learning Agents and=20 Knowledge Base. These agents use a set of rules to determine the best=20 way to render the mainframe screen. Once a template has been chosen by=20 the Learning Agents, STAR:View uses the template to convert the=20 character-based screen into a graphical page and then generates the page=20 into Hypertext Markup Language (HTML) for transmission to the user. If=20 data entry is required on the screen, STAR:View translates the user=92s=20 data from the HTML format back into the 3270 format for transmission to=20 the mainframe. C. Necessary End-User Configuration to participate in the Star:View Beta= =20 Program 1. Beta Tester has a Microsoft NT Server running version 3.51 or=20 greater. 2. Beta Testers=92 NT Server is setup with Microsoft=92s Internet=20 Information Server version 1.0 or greater. 3. Beta Testers=92 NT Server has access to a 3270 data stream over=20 a TN3270 connection. 4. Beta Testers=92 client computer is a PC running any version of=20 Microsoft Windows or is a Macintosh computer. 5. Beta Testers=92 client computer is running one of the following=20 Internet browsers a. Internet Explorer 2.0 or greater b. Netscape 2.0 or greater c. Mosaic 2.0 6. Beta Tester=92s client computer is communicating with the NT=20 Server via TCP/IP. 7. Beta Tester has access to the Internet and can send/receive=20 email messages via the Internet. D. How to become a Star:View Beta Tester=20 Send an email to "starview_beta@redwood-city.sterling.com"=20 stating the following information: a. Confirmation that you meet all the necessary end-user=20 configurations b. Email address that you wish to be contacted at c. Company that you work for You will be informed via email on where to access the Star:View=20 Beta version on the Internet with appropriate download instructions=20 sometime in Q3 1996. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 07:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02961; Fri, 30 Aug 96 07:20:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id HAA17551 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 07:16:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id HAA17546 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 07:16:43 -0700 Received: by uu7.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA28010 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 30 Aug 96 10:16:37 -0400 Received: from localhost by borris.bgsg.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA59518; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 09:59:22 -0400 Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 09:59:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Shaffer <02rss@borris.bgsg.com> To: hurry@imap2.asu.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "You Have Mail" In-Reply-To: <4vtoa6$6qu@news.asu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You probally have mail check in your .profile (or equiv). It checks periodically for mail and then shows it at a shell prompt. If the message was "You have mail" then you are probally keeping mail in the spool directory instead of having it moved upon exit (through setup options) to another folder. Thus, you do indeed have mail unless you have deleted every message in your inbox. If there is in fact new (unread) mail then the prompt would display "You have NEW mail". +------------------------------+--------------------------------+ | Robert S. Shaffer Jr. | e-mail : bshaffer@bgsg.com | | Sr. Systems Administrator | voice : 800.624.5914 | | The BGS&G Companies | voice : 301.777.1500 | | 44 Baltimore Street | fax : 301.724.3953 | | Cumberland, MD 21502 | web : http://www.bgsg.com | +------------------------------+--------------------------------+ On 27 Aug 1996 hurry@imap2.asu.edu wrote: > Linda Emerson (lindae@mlode.com) wrote: > : Has anyone figured out why this message occasionally appears when exiting > : Pine even if you have no new mail? Sometimes I get it and sometimes I > : don't. When I do receive the message, I go back into Pine but never find > : new mail, so I exit the program and the message disappears. > > It's probably a faulty program that checks for new mail which is > thinking that pine's writing of folders is the arival of new mail. > > -- > Adam Myrow > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 09:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30859; Fri, 30 Aug 96 09:37:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA20268 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 09:33:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bkstore.cserv.iupui.edu (bkstore.cserv.iupui.edu [134.68.17.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA20263 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 09:33:19 -0700 Received: from localhost by bkstore.cserv.iupui.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA33760; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 11:37:47 -0500 Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 11:37:47 -0500 (EST) From: Karen Holliday To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Sending mail Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am having trouble sending any mail to aol.com; juno.com; prodigy.com; and almost anything that has a ".net" in it. It always comes back to me with the message of being undeliverable. I hav tried several times and it they always come back. Is there something wrong in our set up or do you have any idea what might be causing it? I have already talk to our support person and he has no idea what is causing it. Thank you, Karen Holliday khollida@bkstore.cserv.iupui.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:22:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01900; Fri, 30 Aug 96 10:22:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id KAA28676 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:19:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id KAA28671 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:19:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwX9b-00038UC; Fri, 30 Aug 96 10:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: MATHER Subject: Arrow keys and Wyse60 emulation Date: 27 Aug 1996 18:55:13 GMT Message-Id: <4vvgah$pve@test-sun.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone tell me what I need to do to get my arrow keys to work under a wyse60 emulation? I have heard this is a really bad emulator to use for pine, but I have little choice on the emulation or the package (limitted by $$$$). I added the option in the makefile that one individual remarked on and recompiled, but it didn't help me. Am I missing something else that I need to do? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:23:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07568; Fri, 30 Aug 96 10:23:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id KAA28730 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:21:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id KAA28725 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:21:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwXCl-00038WC; Fri, 30 Aug 96 10:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fred Heitkamp Subject: Pine and 'Validating Newsgroups' Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 13:13:00 -0400 Message-Id: <3227211C.13FEF1D2@ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been experimenting with the pine newsreader and have found a rather troublesome feature that I hope can be turned off. When I try to follow up to a message, Pine spends ages in the 'Validating Newsgroups' phase. Can this be turned off? I read news from an NNTP server over a modem, and this process is just to time consuming. Thanks! Fred Heitkamp From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:24:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07612; Fri, 30 Aug 96 10:24:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id KAA28683 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:19:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id KAA28678 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:19:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwX9U-00038TC; Fri, 30 Aug 96 10:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: AL Subject: Re: saving to file Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 09:26:57 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4vb67t$k2s@mark.ucdavis.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Where can I find FAQ for pine? Thanks. -al. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07146; Fri, 30 Aug 96 10:26:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id KAA21549 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:19:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id KAA21544 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:19:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwX9c-00038VC; Fri, 30 Aug 96 10:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: boss@new-zealand.italpro.com (Michele Beltrame) Subject: Pine & News PWD Date: 27 Aug 1996 09:45:32 GMT Message-Id: Hi! I plan to start using PINE 3.95 also for news (I have been using it for mail for a lot of time). Since I need to authenticate to my news server, PINE prompts me for username and pwd. The problem is that it does prompt me EVERY TIME I change newsgroup. Isn't it possible to be asked only once for the password or to configure PINE to automatically send name and pwd? Thanks, Mic. -- ---> Michele Beltrame http://www.italpro.com boss@italpro.com <--- ---> ITALPRO SRL itamark@italpro.com +39-427-71649 <--- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07459; Fri, 30 Aug 96 10:28:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id KAA28823 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:25:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id KAA28817 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:25:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwXIT-00038TC; Fri, 30 Aug 96 10:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fred Heitkamp Subject: Re: Can Pine do POP? FAQ? Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 13:07:39 -0400 Message-Id: <32271FDB.62A2C38@ibm.net> References: <32235561.5B6A7AF1@ibm.net> <501r6u$48go@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ashok Aiyar wrote: >=20 > On 28 Aug 1996 16:13:18 GMT, root wrote: >=20 > >I am trying pine 3.91 on Linux. Anyone see what I did wrong? >=20 > > ---- FOLDER SCREEN ---- > >About to open folder "INBOX" inbox: "INBOX" > >expunge and close mail stream "mail/saved-messages" > >IMAP 11:50 8/28 mm_log babble: QUALCOMM Pop server derived from UCB (v= ersion 2.1 > >=C4=BE@=C4=BE@at pop01.ny.us > >.ibm.net starting. > >Opened folder "{pop01.ny.us.ibm.net/pop3}" with 35 messages > >Sorting by Arrival > > ---- MAIL INDEX ---- > > > > ---- INDEX MANAGER ---- > >about to end_tty_driver > >Pine Panic: Received abort signal >=20 > Install pine-3.95. There were bugs in the pop3 code in pine 3.91. I've downloaded, and compiled pine 3.95 and it's working fine. Is there anyway to have pine download the messages from the pop mailbox, delete them, and store locally? I can see the pop mailbox getting rather huge with content otherwise. Fred Heitkamp From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 11:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08533; Fri, 30 Aug 96 11:08:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id KAA22251 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:47:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from NS1 (ns1.belvoir.army.mil [192.52.117.18]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id KAA22243 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:47:13 -0700 Received: from blvr-csscs.army.mil by NS1 (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA18927; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 13:50:17 -0400 Received: from localhost by blvr-csscs.army.mil (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA10239; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 13:43:40 -0400 Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 13:43:40 -0400 (EDT) From: George Gary To: MATHER Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Arrow keys and Wyse60 emulation In-Reply-To: <4vvgah$pve@test-sun.erols.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Set the wyse 60 to vt100 emulation and then set your TERM variable to vt100. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 11:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08798; Fri, 30 Aug 96 11:22:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id KAA22636 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:59:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id KAA22631 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 10:59:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwXoX-00038TC; Fri, 30 Aug 96 10:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? Date: 29 Aug 1996 11:28:48 -0500 Message-Id: <504gg0$lbs@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article , Mike Brudenell wrote: > Of course, you could take a copy of your normal "--"-less signature into a > separate file and add the "--". As Sven and others have already pointed out, that should be "-- ". The space is important! > Pine can then be configured (in the Setup > Configuration screen) to use this alternative file. (It only *defaults* > to a file called ".signature" in your home directory (for UNIX Pine).) That's the method I opted for, when I noted the lack of an `enable-sigdashes' option in the pine setup. It's on my list of things to look at creating a patch for, if I ever get some time. Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 11:37:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09206; Fri, 30 Aug 96 11:37:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id LAA00598 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 11:34:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id LAA00593 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 11:34:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwYOr-00038UC; Fri, 30 Aug 96 11:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andy@Fly.Donetsk.UA (Andrey Yushkov) Subject: Re: Quoting while reply... Date: 30 Aug 1996 11:59:03 GMT Message-Id: <506l27$9f0@anega.aist.net> References: <4vibr3$erl@bell.cs.unc.edu> 22 Aug 1996 15:18:59 -0400 Narendra Tulpule (tulpule@cs.unc.edu) wrote: > Hi all PINE gurus: Hi! > When I reply to a message, pine begins the message as... > On wrote: > Can anyone tell me if and how I can customize this line? In sources you can, I suppose :( I want to use such feature, too... And I would like to insert before that string the one more: Hi dear ! :) > Thanks a lot! > - Narendra. > -- > ================================================================ > Naren / email:tulpule@cs.unc.edu / 919-962-1937(office)/ SN039. > http://www.cs.unc.edu/~tulpule talk:tulpule@boulanger.cs.unc.edu > ================================================================ Good luck! -- Yours sincerely - Andy <*> http://Public.Donetsk.UA/~andy From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 12:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10633; Fri, 30 Aug 96 12:44:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA02398 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 12:40:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ied.com (miranda.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.198.63]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id MAA02393 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 12:40:45 -0700 Received: from ann.ied.com (ann.ied.com [192.9.200.20]) by ied.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA04024 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 15:40:41 -0400 Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 15:40:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Jan Vicherek To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: problem : [Error: Formatting error ... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi. Being a user of pine 3.95 myself, I get the following errors from a particular user of pine 3.95 : _____________ got lots and lots of diskspace t [Error: Formatting error: Non-hexadecimal character in QP encoding] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What should I / he do, to avoid this problem ? Thanx, Jan --- Gospel is the power of God for all who believe - (Rom. 1:16) --- Jan Vicherek .............. Check out: http://www.ied.com/~honza/fslu/ Interactive Electronic Design Inc. . "To some, nothing is impossible." http://www.ied.com/~honza ................... finger honza@www.ied.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 13:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11301; Fri, 30 Aug 96 13:25:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id NAA26109 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 13:22:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ucsu.Colorado.EDU [128.138.129.83]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id NAA26102 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 13:22:07 -0700 Received: from localhost (caughlin@localhost) by ucsu.Colorado.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3/CNS-4.0p) with SMTP id OAA12215 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 14:22:03 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 14:21:59 -0600 (MDT) From: CAUGHLIN AMY MARIE Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII for some reason I am not recieving my e-mail messages. I know that I have been sent test mail to attempt to correct the problem. What should I do and who locally can I contact? This address was given to me on the universities home page for help with pine. Thanks Amy Caughlin 303-786-4255 caughlin@ucsu.colorado.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 16:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14803; Fri, 30 Aug 96 16:22:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA00322 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 16:20:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA00317 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 16:20:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwcqU-00038VC; Fri, 30 Aug 96 16:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: Howto customize reply quote... AGAIN! Date: 30 Aug 1996 22:33:02 GMT Message-Id: <507q6u$js2@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: <504m9d$sv8@angel.cs.unc.edu> Un jour, Narendra Tulpule (tulpule@cs.unc.edu) affirmait publiquement que: | Hi all PINE gurus (and some half-baked guru-wannabes) Who me?!? | Sometime back, I had posted a query, as follows: | While replying, PINE starts the message with | On wrote: | Please tell me if and how I can customize this line. | Someone told me to look into Setup-Config (as if!) and some others posted | followups saying they didn't find it. | Now will a real guru come forward and show me the path to Nirvana? Take the second street left and try the "alternate-editor" as a script to modify the quoting. (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ Le propre du génie est de fournir des idées aux crétins une vingtaine d'années plus tard. -- L. Aragon From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 16:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15445; Fri, 30 Aug 96 16:32:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA07896 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 16:30:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA07891 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 16:30:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwcz2-00038TC; Fri, 30 Aug 96 16:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine and 'Validating Newsgroups' Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 16:23:01 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3227211C.13FEF1D2@ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3227211C.13FEF1D2@ibm.net> On Fri, 30 Aug 1996, Fred Heitkamp wrote: > I've been experimenting with the pine newsreader and have found a > rather troublesome feature that I hope can be turned off. When I > try to follow up to a message, Pine spends ages in the > 'Validating Newsgroups' phase. Can this be turned off? Yup, select the news-post-without-validation feature in the Setup/Config screen. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 18:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16291; Fri, 30 Aug 96 18:04:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id SAA09558 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 18:02:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bingsun1.cc.binghamton.edu (bingsun1.cc.binghamton.edu [128.226.1.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id SAA09553 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 18:02:25 -0700 Received: from localhost (be81962@localhost) by bingsun1.cc.binghamton.edu (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA15275 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 21:03:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 21:03:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Dibs X-Sender: be81962@bingsun1 To: Pine Developers Subject: accessing Inbox Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have been unable to access my inbox ... it gives me a line and says I have to put in my ID number and a password and then it tells me the password is wrong. Please email me back at dblas@suffolk.lib.ny.us XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX "Life is meaningless, if you have no one to share it with." XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 18:10:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16015; Fri, 30 Aug 96 18:10:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id SAA09641 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 18:08:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from usls-is.mozcom.com (usls-is.mozcom.com [202.47.133.254]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id SAA09636 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 18:08:49 -0700 Received: (from amg@localhost) by usls-is.mozcom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA00129; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 09:16:47 +0800 Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 09:16:47 +0800 (SGT) From: Alicia M Garces To: Pine Subject: FAQ Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Sir: Greetings from the City of Smiles ! I would like to request for the list of frequently asked questios to be able to see the answer to the present difficulty I am encounering in my server . I was referred to you by Pine-Robot, just a while ago . Thank you very much ! Ms Alicia Garces From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 20:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18042; Fri, 30 Aug 96 20:43:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA04079 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 20:40:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id UAA04074 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 20:40:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwgvI-00038TC; Fri, 30 Aug 96 20:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fred Heitkamp Subject: Re: Frequently Asked Questions about Pine Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 11:47:02 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 20 Aug 1996, Richard G. Roberto wrote: > On Tue, 20 Aug 1996, Stefan Kramer wrote: > > > > > The following is a plain-text version of the HTML document > > currently found on the World Wide Web at the URL: > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/FAQs.html > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Frequently Asked Questions about Pine > > > > * * * snip * * * > > > > > Can Pine be used with a POP server? > > > > No. Neither Pine nor PC-Pine currently (as of version 3.95) support > > POP's offline mail model (wherein pending mail is pulled from the mail > > server to the local machine and deleted from the server). However, it > > is likely that this model will be supported, with a choice of either > > IMAP or POP as the access protocol, in a future release. > > > > What? I used to be able to put /pop3 after a host name > {host/pop3} and use pop3 to download mail (pine3.91 on > linux). I haven't used this in a while, though. Why has > this been removed? It worked fine for me then. Oh well. I received a suggestion to try: incoming-folders={pop3host.domain/pop3}MailBox_Name and it didn't work. First there is no incoming-folders option in the configuration that I saw. Second, What do you do for a password, required for the pop mailbox? Should pine prompt for a password? I am assuming that pine 3.91 on Linux really can do POP. Fred Heitkamp From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 20:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18089; Fri, 30 Aug 96 20:58:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA11592 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 20:55:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id UAA11587 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 20:55:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwh7c-00038UC; Fri, 30 Aug 96 20:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sandhoff@csus.edu (John F. Sandhoff) Subject: HPUX 10.x VT100 problems with vi, pine, etc Date: 30 Aug 1996 23:47:25 GMT Message-Id: <507uid$6vu@news.csus.edu> Ah, good 'ol HP. At 10.x, they redefined the definition of what a VT100 looks like ('vt100 as defined by DEC vt420'), adding loads of new definitions. Now, maybe a real VT100 is capable of all these nifty things, but lots of the 'real world' emulators can't handle it all. Most notably to us was that vi couldn't delete chars from the middle of a line, and neither could pico or pine... Here's the quick and dirty fix: Go to a v9.x HP system and enter: 'untic vt100 > /tmp/vt100-hp9.raw' This results in a file that contains the version 9.x definition. Now take this file to your vesion 10.x system and (assuming the same path and file name), enter these commands as the superuser: mv /usr/share/lib/terminfo/v/vt100 /usr/share/lib/terminfo/v/vt100-hp10 mv /usr/share/lib/terminfo/v/vt100-am /usr/share/lib/terminfo/v/vt100-am-hp10 tic /tmp/vt100-hp9.raw If you ever need to return the system to its original configuration: mv /usr/share/lib/terminfo/v/vt100-hp10 /usr/share/lib/terminfo/v/vt100 mv /usr/share/lib/terminfo/v/vt100-am-hp10 /usr/share/lib/terminfo/v/vt100-am (Note: the hp9 file defines vt100 and vt100-am; under hp10 these two definitions are separate) John F. Sandhoff, University Network Support California State University, Sacramento sandhoff@csus.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 21:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18419; Fri, 30 Aug 96 21:27:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA04625 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 21:25:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id VAA04620 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 21:25:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwhag-00038TC; Fri, 30 Aug 96 21:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ctorlins@crl.com (Christoph Torlinsky) Subject: Rolling out Pine Date: 30 Aug 1996 21:21:32 -0700 Message-Id: <508ekc$qb5@crl.crl.com> I am in the process of rolling out pine as an option to one hundred users, how to I setup pine, so that when they first try pine they dont get the "request for more tips on pine email" thingy. I dont want 100 pices of the same email coming to each user on day one. Thanks. -chris From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 21:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18300; Fri, 30 Aug 96 21:32:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA11988 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 21:31:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id VAA11982 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 21:31:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwhdh-00038TC; Fri, 30 Aug 96 21:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ctorlins@crl.com (Christoph Torlinsky) Subject: scripts with pgp and pine Date: 30 Aug 1996 21:24:27 -0700 Message-Id: <508epr$qd8@crl.crl.com> in the past some people posted sites that had information useful to integration between pine and pgp. scripts and stuff on some webpage. anyone mind reposting it? Thanks chris From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 22:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18960; Fri, 30 Aug 96 22:47:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id WAA05516 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 22:45:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id WAA05511 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 22:45:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwipC-00038TC; Fri, 30 Aug 96 22:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: steve@oseda.missouri.edu (Steve Meyer) Subject: Re: Proper Newsgroup for Question? Message-Id: <5055ku$uho@news.missouri.edu> Date: 29 Aug 1996 22:29:50 GMT References: <501oi7$54v@freenet-news.carleton.ca> Morton Lee Cohen (cx163@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote: : What happened to gopher://services.more.net? It is no longer : reachable via lynx. Thanks in advance. Morton: MoreNet took down its gopher server permanently. It IS still there as http://services.more.net though. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steven T. Meyer /\ Traction /\ University of Missouri Outreach and Extension /\ Avant! /\ <<<<<<<<<<<<< http://www.oseda.missouri.edu/~steve/ <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 22:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18922; Fri, 30 Aug 96 22:47:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id WAA12752 for pine-info-out; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 22:45:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id WAA12747 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 1996 22:45:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwisB-00038UC; Fri, 30 Aug 96 22:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Schleichert Subject: Re: setting a fixed vaule to reply-to or from fields Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 11:18:08 +0200 Message-Id: References: <3224B99B.3F82@merchantstire.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3224B99B.3F82@merchantstire.com> Use the Customized-Headers feature to add a Reply-To: field and its default contents. - Hans -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Schleichert, Dipl.-Phys. Institut fuer Medizinische Psychologie und Verhaltensneurobiologie (Institute of Medical Psychology and Behavioural Neurobiology) Eberhard-Karls-University Gartenstrasse 29 D-72074 Tuebingen, Germany From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 00:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19769; Sat, 31 Aug 96 00:23:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id AAA06777 for pine-info-out; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 00:21:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id AAA06772 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 00:21:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwkJe-00038TC; Sat, 31 Aug 96 00:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Replying Date: 31 Aug 1996 06:56:34 GMT Message-Id: <508nn2$l7o@star.epix.net> References: <32261B16.3E5F@norvell.com> Chris Womack (cwomack@norvell.com) wrote: : Whenever I reply to a message, my cursor is inserted before : the replied to "text". Is there any way to set the cursor : to appear after the quoted text? : thanks, : Chris : cwomack@norvell.com RTFM or ? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 01:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11814; Sat, 31 Aug 96 01:28:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA07522 for pine-info-out; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 01:26:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id BAA07517 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 01:26:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwlMb-00038UC; Sat, 31 Aug 96 01:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: drtv@qldnet.com.au (Steve) Subject: HELP? Source Code req'd for email app Date: Sat, 31 Aug 96 07:02:07 GMT Message-Id: <508o1f$3p8_002@fan.net.au> Is there any code out there that will assist us with the following: PPP dialer SMTP Send Mail POP Fetch Mail CRON - command run on notice Email receive filter We seek to automate the file download and upload process using SMTP over TCP/IP. Code will ultimately have to run across DOS, SCO UNIX, WIN 3.X and WIN 95. Can anyone tell me where I can find some source code to for each of these modules? Please respond to stevenh@fan.net.au From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 01:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20143; Sat, 31 Aug 96 01:28:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA14621 for pine-info-out; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 01:26:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id BAA14616 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 01:26:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwlLA-00038TC; Sat, 31 Aug 96 01:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: clbell@clan.lib.nv.us Subject: QUESTION: sending to a few people Date: 30 Aug 1996 10:37:31 -0700 Message-Id: <5078sr$69n@lex.zippo.com> I want to send a message to 10 or more people. Is there a way to add the addresses without everyone getting a list of who was also sent that message (the last one I sent, the addresses in the "TO:" line was a page long). Thanks. Cheryl Bell. clbell@clan.lib.nv.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 02:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21177; Sat, 31 Aug 96 02:52:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id CAA15558 for pine-info-out; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 02:49:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id CAA15553 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 02:49:50 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 31 Aug 96 17:54:42 +0800 Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 17:46:54 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: clbell@clan.lib.nv.us Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: QUESTION: sending to a few people In-Reply-To: <5078sr$69n@lex.zippo.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 30 Aug 1996 clbell@clan.lib.nv.us wrote: > I want to send a message to 10 or more people. Is there a way to > add the addresses without everyone getting a list of who was also > sent that message (the last one I sent, the addresses in the "TO:" > line was a page long). > Thanks. Cheryl Bell. clbell@clan.lib.nv.us > The "Lcc" (List carbon copy) header is intended to be used when you wish to send a message to a list of people but avoid having all of their addresses visible, in order to reduce clutter when the message is received. It is similar to the "Bcc" (Blind carbon copy) header in that individual addressees are hidden, but Lcc is designed to work specifically with distribution lists you have created in your Pine address book. Placing the nickname of the list on the Lcc line will result in the full name of your Pine Address Book list being placed on the To: line of the message, using a special notation that distinguishes it from a real address. You must leave the To: line blank for your list name to appear there. You need to do a Ctrl-R (rich headers) while your cursor is in the addressing portion of the screen to reveal this option. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 06:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14076; Sat, 31 Aug 96 06:55:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id GAA18228 for pine-info-out; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 06:51:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id GAA18223 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 06:51:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwqSS-00038TC; Sat, 31 Aug 96 06:51 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roland@spinnaker.rhein.de (Roland Rosenfeld) Subject: Re: scripts with pgp and pine Date: 31 Aug 1996 13:13:42 +0200 Message-Id: <5096p6$k8@spinnaker.rhein.de> References: <508epr$qd8@crl.crl.com> Christoph Torlinsky wrote: > in the past some people posted sites that had information > useful to integration between pine and pgp. scripts and > stuff on some webpage. anyone mind reposting it? Here are the scripts I use: ------------------------ pgpdecode ------------------------------- #!/usr/local/bin/perl # # filter for pine 3.93 and newer for decoding pgp mails # use this with the following in your .pinerc: # display-filters=_BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP")_ /home/roland/bin/pgpdecode # # $Id: pgpdecode,v 1.5 1996/08/31 11:10:50 roland Exp $ # # 21.03.96 Roland Rosenfeld # 23.03.96 $TMPFILE moved to $PGPPATH. # 17.05.96 total rewrite in perl; many new features # 27.08.96 corrected code for adding new keys umask 077; $tmpdir = $ENV{'PGPPATH'}; # this offers more security than /tmp $pgpout = "$tmpdir/pgpout$$"; $pgperr = "$tmpdir/pgperr$$"; $pgpfound=1; while ($pgpfound) { while (($_=<>) && !(/^-----BEGIN PGP/)) { print $_; } if (/^-----BEGIN PGP/) { $pgpfound=1; } else { $pgpfound=0; } if (/^-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----$/) { $pgpkeyblock .= $_; while (($_=<>) && !(/^-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----$/)) { $pgpkeyblock .= $_; } $pgpkeyblock .= $_; open(SAVEOUT, ">&STDOUT"); open(SAVEERR, ">&STDERR"); open(STDOUT, ">$pgpout") || &abort("Can't redirect stdout"); open(STDERR, "| tee $pgperr 1>&2") || &abort("Can't redirect stderr"); open(PGP, "|pgp -kaf") || &abort("Can't execute pgp"); print PGP $pgpkeyblock; close(PGP); close(STDOUT); close(STDERR); open(STDOUT, ">&SAVEOUT"); open(STDERR, ">&SAVEERR"); open(PGPERR, "<$pgperr") || &abort("Can't read $pgperr"); while () { print "| $_"; } close(PGPERR); unlink $pgperr; open(PGPOUT, "<$pgpout") || &abort("Can't read $pgpout"); while () { print ": $_"; } close(PGPOUT); unlink $pgpout; } elsif (/^-----BEGIN PGP( SIGNED)? MESSAGE-----$/) { $pgpmessage .= $_; $pgpheader = $_; while (($_=<>) && !(/^-----END PGP (MESSAGE|SIGNATURE)-----$/)) { $pgpmessage .= $_; } $pgpmessage .= $_; open(SAVEOUT, ">&STDOUT"); open(SAVEERR, ">&STDERR"); open(STDOUT, ">$pgpout") || &abort("Can't redirect stdout"); open(STDERR, "| tee $pgperr 1>&2") || &abort("Can't redirect stderr"); open(PGP, "|pgp -f") || &abort("Can't execute pgp"); print PGP $pgpmessage; close(PGP); close(STDOUT); close(STDERR); open(STDOUT, ">&SAVEOUT"); open(STDERR, ">&SAVEERR"); open(PGPERR, "<$pgperr") || &abort("Can't read $pgperr"); while () { print "| $_"; } close(PGPERR); unlink $pgperr; print "|\n| $pgpheader|\n"; open(PGPOUT, "<$pgpout") || &abort("Can't read $pgpout"); while () { print $_; } close(PGPOUT); unlink $pgpout; $pgpheader =~ s/BEGIN/END/; print "\n|\n| $pgpheader|\n\n"; } } exit; sub abort { local ($message) = @_; unlink $pgpout; unlink $pgperr; die $message } ------------------------ pgpdecode ------------------------------- ------------------------ pgpencrypt ------------------------------ #!/bin/sh # # $Id: pgpencrypt,v 1.6 1996/06/25 09:05:28 roland Exp $ # # 21.03.96 Roland Rosenfeld # 17.05.96 exit added. # umask 077 TMPFILE="/tmp/pgpencrypt" trap "rm -f $TMPFILE.???.$$; exit 1" 1 2 15 (pgp +verbose=1 -feast $* >$TMPFILE.txt.$$) 2>&1 | tee $TMPFILE.pgp.$$ 1>&2 if grep '/pubring.pgp' $TMPFILE.pgp.$$ >/dev/null then rm -f $TMPFILE.???.$$ exit 1 fi cat $TMPFILE.txt.$$ rm -f $TMPFILE.???.$$ ------------------------ pgpencrypt ------------------------------ ------------------------ pgpsign --------------------------------- #!/bin/sh # # 21.03.96 Roland Rosenfeld # pgp -fast ------------------------ pgpsign --------------------------------- These skripts work with pine 3.93, 3.94 and 3.95. You have to add the following (with correct path!) to your ~/.pinerc: # This variable takes a list of programs that message text is piped into # after MIME decoding, prior to display. display-filters=_BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP")_ /home/roland/bin/pgpdecode # This defines a program that message text is piped into before MIME # encoding, prior to sending sending-filters=/home/roland/bin/pgpsign, /home/roland/bin/pgpencrypt _RECIPIENTS_ Ciao Roland -- * Internet: roland@spinnaker.rhein.de * Fido: 2:2450/111.13 * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 09:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21932; Sat, 31 Aug 96 09:40:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA20202 for pine-info-out; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 09:36:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from www.gnofn.org (www.gnofn.org [199.181.71.9]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id JAA20196 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 09:36:39 -0700 Received: (from kmcdonal@localhost) by www.gnofn.org (8.7.Beta.10/8.7.Beta.10) id LAA11827; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 11:40:06 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 11:40:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Kelly McDonald To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How do I unsubscribe? In-Reply-To: <3224BA1A.509@dagy.danderyd.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Where do I send mail to to unsubscribe to this mailing list? Thanks, Kelly kmcdonal@gnofn.org From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 14:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26297; Sat, 31 Aug 96 14:55:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id OAA16807 for pine-info-out; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 14:53:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id OAA16802 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 14:53:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwxtj-00038TC; Sat, 31 Aug 96 14:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hereth@aeeo.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Ralf Hereth) Subject: Q: changing the "From"-Field in outgoing messages Date: 28 Aug 1996 08:43:11 GMT Message-Id: <5010qv$eel@sun168.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> My problem is the following: I'm using a pc under linux and therefore I'm using the installed sendmail for sending e-mail. Incoming mail is collected by a pop-server, and I'm using the pop-protocol to transport incoming mail from this pop-server to my local pc. I'm using different login-names for the pop-server and for my local pc. When sending e-mail Pine automatically puts my login-name of my local pc into the "From"-field, so that a reply to this address is sent to the user of the pop-server which has the same login-name there as I have on my local pc. Changing the fields "personal-name" and/or "user-domain" in the config-file doesn't seem to solve this problem. The only workaround that I found out is to use a customized header "Reply-to:" in my config-file. Does anybody know a possibility to change the "From"-field of outgoing mail to another address? Ralf Hereth ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP public key available at http://www.aeeo.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/users/hereth/ or via PGP Public Key Server ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 14:55:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19675; Sat, 31 Aug 96 14:55:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id OAA23778 for pine-info-out; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 14:53:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id OAA23773 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 14:53:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwxtg-00038BC; Sat, 31 Aug 96 14:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu (Ashok Aiyar) Subject: Re: Can Pine do POP? FAQ? Date: 28 Aug 1996 17:44:17 GMT Message-Id: References: <32235561.5B6A7AF1@ibm.net> <501r6u$48go@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 28 Aug 1996 16:13:18 GMT, root wrote: >I am trying pine 3.91 on Linux. Anyone see what I did wrong?=20 > ---- FOLDER SCREEN ---- >About to open folder "INBOX" inbox: "INBOX" >expunge and close mail stream "mail/saved-messages" >IMAP 11:50 8/28 mm_log babble: QUALCOMM Pop server derived from UCB (ver= sion 2.1 >=C4=BE=0C@=C4=BE=0C@at pop01.ny.us >.ibm.net starting. >Opened folder "{pop01.ny.us.ibm.net/pop3}" with 35 messages >Sorting by Arrival > ---- MAIL INDEX ---- > > ---- INDEX MANAGER ---- >about to end_tty_driver >Pine Panic: Received abort signal Install pine-3.95. There were bugs in the pop3 code in pine 3.91. Ashok --=20 Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. Department of Oncology email: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu University of Wisconsin-Madison tel: (608) 262-6697 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 15:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26177; Sat, 31 Aug 96 15:49:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id PAA24446 for pine-info-out; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 15:47:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id PAA24441 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 15:47:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uwykW-00038BC; Sat, 31 Aug 96 15:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fred Ringel Subject: Re: scripts with pgp and pine Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <508epr$qd8@crl.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <508epr$qd8@crl.crl.com> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 21:53:23 GMT On 30 Aug 1996, Christoph Torlinsky wrote: > in the past some people posted sites that had information > useful to integration between pine and pgp. scripts and > stuff on some webpage. anyone mind reposting it? > Try http://www.rivertown.net/~pgp and the links on integrating Pine with PGP and the MKPGP program. Fred ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Fred B. Ringel Rivertown.Net Systems Administrator P.O. Box 532 and General Fixer-upper Hastings, New York 10706 Voice/Support: 914.478.2885 Data: 914-478-4988 PGP-Users Mailing list maintainer--http://www.rivertown.net:8080 AND Westchester's Rivertown's Full Service Flat-Rate Internet Access Provider For my PGP key, send an e-mail with the Subject: SEND-PGPKEY From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 17:16:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27399; Sat, 31 Aug 96 17:15:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id RAA18519 for pine-info-out; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 17:13:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id RAA18514 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 17:13:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ux067-00038BC; Sat, 31 Aug 96 17:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Serban Boca - EECS Subject: Question related to version 3.95 Message-Id: <3228C796.791F@eecs.wsu.edu> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 23:15:34 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Hi all ! I have encountered the following problem when we updated to this 3.95 version (running under HP-UX): In the "sent-mail" folder, the column reserved for the recipients' addresses is, instead, filled out with the sender address (i.e., my name). This is very inconvenient, because whenever I open this folder to check on the e-mails that I sent, I only see there my name on the whole column, instead of viewing the recipient address. This thing didn't use to happen with the old 3.91 version that we were running before. Could somebody, please, give me a hint on what to do ? Thanx-a-lot ! Serban -- ======================================================================= SERBAN BOCA Graduate student in Computer Science, Washington State University E-mail: sboca@eecs.wsu.edu ======================================================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 19:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28016; Sat, 31 Aug 96 19:15:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA26780 for pine-info-out; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 19:13:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA26775 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 19:13:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ux1xN-00038BC; Sat, 31 Aug 96 19:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: atsai@scunix4.harvard.edu (sparrow) Subject: Re: Question related to version 3.95 Date: 1 Sep 1996 01:17:26 GMT Message-Id: <50ao76$qm7@decaxp.harvard.edu> References: <3228C796.791F@eecs.wsu.edu> i am interested in seeing the response to this post as well. thanks, -a email: atsai@fas.harvard.edu Serban Boca - EECS (sboca@eecs.wsu.edu) wrote: : Hi all ! : I have encountered the following problem when we updated to this 3.95 : version (running under HP-UX): In the "sent-mail" folder, the column : reserved for the recipients' addresses is, instead, filled out with the : sender address (i.e., my name). This is very inconvenient, because : whenever I open this folder to check on the e-mails that I sent, I only : see there my name on the whole column, instead of viewing the recipient : address. This thing didn't use to happen with the old 3.91 version that : we were running before. : Could somebody, please, give me a hint on what to do ? : Thanx-a-lot ! : Serban : -- : ======================================================================= : SERBAN BOCA : Graduate student in Computer Science, Washington State University : E-mail: sboca@eecs.wsu.edu : ======================================================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 22:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29569; Sat, 31 Aug 96 22:05:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id WAA21801 for pine-info-out; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 22:03:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id WAA21796 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 22:03:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ux4ei-00038BC; Sat, 31 Aug 96 22:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Vasily Lewis Subject: probs w/ use-only-domain-name Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 23:41:16 -0500 Message-Id: <322913EC.4AA2@iastate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ahoy, Having recently installed pine 3.95, I am having problems w/ the use-only-domain-name directive. I have defined this in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed and I have verified its implimentation by perusing the "Config" part of "Setup" from w/ in the pine program. use-only-domain-name = Yes is what is displayed. The symptoms are as follows: When composing a new messages, and inserting in a local user name into the "To:" section, pine correctly expands that to "GECOS" (this appears correct! Not server.domain.org). However, I fire off the message, and invoke pine to read it, the mail header reads w/: To: login@server.domain.org From: login@server.domain.org Agg. Quite frustrating. I have tried also setting the user-domain directive w/ the same results. Help would be muchly appreciated. This is a NetBSD system (based on 4.4BSD-lite) and as i said earlier, this is pine 3.95. I'm no sendmail guru, perhaps sendmail is influencing this? -Vasily Lewis From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 23:35:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30513; Sat, 31 Aug 96 23:35:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id XAA29671 for pine-info-out; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 23:33:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id XAA29660 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 1996 23:33:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ux62R-00038BC; Sat, 31 Aug 96 23:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Alan Yorinks Subject: Port for QNX? Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 07:33:00 -0400 Message-Id: <322822EC.47E2@monmouth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is anyone aware of a port for the QNX operating system? Thanks, Alan Yorinks afy@lucent.com