From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 1 00:56:38 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14550; Mon, 1 Jul 96 00:56:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02109; Mon, 1 Jul 96 00:49:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02103; Mon, 1 Jul 96 00:49:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uadhx-00038BC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 00:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbdavis@osbm9.osbm.state.nc.us (John Davis) Subject: PC Pine and POP Message-Id: Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:48:41 GMT In a previous article I had asked about POP capability in PC Pine. I understand it is not there now, but is there any plans to put POP mail capability into PC Pine in a future release. Even if I've found an ISP that has IMAP capability, accessing IMAP over a dial in type access can be rather slow. I'd rather download all my messages and read them directly on the PC, while maintaining access to remote folders using IMAP. In other words I want both types of access - POP for my my inbox and IMAP for my folders. This would be the best of both worlds for my situation. ============================================================================= John Davis jbdavis@osbm9.osbm.state.nc.us/jbdavis@pobox.com Cary, North Carolina http://www.webbuild.com/~jbdavis/ ============================================================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 1 01:27:37 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15224; Mon, 1 Jul 96 01:27:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16926; Mon, 1 Jul 96 01:23:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16920; Mon, 1 Jul 96 01:23:04 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:20:49 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA13405; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:22:43 +0100 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:22:43 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: ??The Riddler?? Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Every Time I try to use 'COMPOSE MAIL" I get an ERROR HELP!!! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It *REALLY* helps if, when you describe such problems you also include: * Which version of Pine you are using: 3.91? 9.92? 9.93? 3.94? * The platofrm your Pine is running on (DOS? Windows? Some flavour of UNIX?) ANYWAY.... Guessing from the Message ID header field of your posting that you are still using Pine 3.91 I suspect you are having your problems from having an existing-but-empty postponed messages folder or interrupted mail folder. Check these (using "ls -l" if you are on a UNIX system)... ls -l $HOME/.pine-interrupted-mail ls -l $HOME/mail/postponed-msgs (replace "/mail/" with the name of the subdirectory in which your folders are stored if different). If either of these exist but are empty delete them. The better solution is to upgrade to the current version of Pine (3.94) which, I believe, does not suffer from the problem. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, ??The Riddler?? wrote: > Ever time I Try to COMPOSE MAIL I get the error: > > "Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". > Exiting pine." > > If you have any answers PLEASE respond... to this or > jvahanian@vms1.cc.uop.edu > Thank you > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 1 02:28:19 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16534; Mon, 1 Jul 96 02:28:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17593; Mon, 1 Jul 96 02:20:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17587; Mon, 1 Jul 96 02:19:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uaf5e-00038TC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 02:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bonekam@xikp03.uni-muenster.de (Dirk Bonekdmper) Subject: Q:turning off automatic mail checking Date: 1 Jul 1996 09:00:54 GMT Message-Id: <4r8446$e16@majestix.uni-muenster.de> Hi everybody, Yes, I'd really (gasp) like to turn off the automatic mail check of pine. It confuses the mail checking mechanism of the CDE environment. Alternatively, it would also be enough to be able to set the intervall to a looong period. BTW, I'm using PINE3.91. Thanks, Dirk -- o-----------------------------------o-----------------------------------------o | Dirk Bonekamper | tel: (+49) 251 83-4947 | | IKP, Wilhelm Klemm Str. 9 | fax: (+49) 251 83-4962 | | D-48149 Muenster | email: bonekam@uni-muenster.de | o-----------------------------------o-----------------------------------------o From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 1 04:34:47 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19868; Mon, 1 Jul 96 04:34:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04716; Mon, 1 Jul 96 04:30:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04710; Mon, 1 Jul 96 04:30:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uah7c-00038BC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 04:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: talshiar@voicenet.com (Nereus) Subject: Re: Do I need these files anymore? Date: 29 Jun 1996 18:07:51 GMT Message-Id: <4r3rdn$5vc@goodnews.voicenet.com> References: <4r240r$dmb@rain.psg.com> In comp.mail.pine, Timothy J. Luoma (luomat@nerc.com) dared to write: : I used PINE 3.91 and now I'm using PINE 3.94. : I've got .addressbook* and pine-address* files in my $HOME..... do : I need them both anymore? pine 3.94 uses .addressbook* files just the same way, so if you want to keep your same addressbook, you should keep the files. It is compatible. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nereus talshiar@voicenet.com http://www.voicenet.com/~talshiar/ |"Beware the Jabberwock, my son! ( finger -l for PGP public | The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!" key, Geek Code, and more ) | -- Charles Lutwidge Dodgson From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 1 04:39:06 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19942; Mon, 1 Jul 96 04:39:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19264; Mon, 1 Jul 96 04:30:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19258; Mon, 1 Jul 96 04:30:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uah8K-00038VC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 04:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: meyerbos@best.com (Meyer Boswell Books Inc.) Subject: Pine Address Book to Netscape Date: 29 Jun 1996 11:20:30 -0700 Message-Id: <4r3s5e$qmv@shellx.best.com> Is there a way to take my Pine Address Book, and import it into Netscape 2.0? Usually I use Pine, but sometimes I am browsing in Netscape, and want to send a message....but no access to my carefully compiled Pine Address Book! Also, is there a Netscape UseNet group like this one for Pine? I can't find it, and that seems like a real surprise. Many thanks, Joe Luttrell From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 1 07:55:58 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23714; Mon, 1 Jul 96 07:55:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07264; Mon, 1 Jul 96 07:50:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07258; Mon, 1 Jul 96 07:50:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uakHW-00038BC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 07:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: szrzs077@solaire.mail.uni-kiel.de (Ulrike Lindemann) Subject: change position of included text? Date: 1 Jul 1996 13:52:09 GMT Message-Id: <4r8l69$53n@infosrv.rz.uni-kiel.de> Hi all, is it possible to tell pine not to put the included original message, when making a reply, after the signature at the end of the new maessage text? I'd like to have it at the beginning followed by the cursor position and the signature. Any hints or ideas? Thanx, Ulrike Lindemann@rz.uni-kiel.de -- Ulrike Lindemann |\ Lindemann@rz.uni-kiel.de Rechenzentrum der CAU Kiel __| \ Tel: +49-431-880-4660 D-24098 Kiel |__| Fax: -1523 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 1 08:26:11 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25035; Mon, 1 Jul 96 08:26:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22402; Mon, 1 Jul 96 08:20:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22396; Mon, 1 Jul 96 08:20:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uakjW-00038BC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 08:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schlumpf@fsinfo.cs.uni-sb.de (Pappa Schlumpf) Subject: Pine problem with pgp Date: 1 Jul 1996 14:37:36 GMT Message-Id: <4r8nrg$3m5@pf1.phil.uni-sb.de> Hi, I'm running pine 3.94 with the following pgp display filters: display-filters=_LEADING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MES")_ /usr/local/bin/pgpwrap, _LEADING("-----BEGIN PGP MES")_ /usr/local/bin/pgp -mf, _LEADING("-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY")_ /usr/local/bin/pgp -kaf pgpwrap is: #!/bin/sh pgp echo "">/dev/tty echo " -------- Press [RETURN] to continue --------" >/dev/tty read junk Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26292; Mon, 1 Jul 96 08:59:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08762; Mon, 1 Jul 96 08:52:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from chaph.usc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08756; Mon, 1 Jul 96 08:52:51 -0700 Received: from phakt.usc.edu (rshen@phakt.usc.edu [128.125.253.144]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) with ESMTP id IAA11908 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (rshen@localhost) by phakt.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.2/usc) with SMTP id IAA02866 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:52:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Ru-Yi Shen To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How to solve? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII HI, Dear Editor: How to take back the folder I deleted about "sent-mail-may-1996"? I deleted all the folders that I'd like to keep them. Thank you!! Emily Shen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 1 09:12:53 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27873; Mon, 1 Jul 96 09:12:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09371; Mon, 1 Jul 96 09:07:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09365; Mon, 1 Jul 96 09:07:33 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:05:07 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id RAA04619; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:06:45 +0100 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:06:44 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Ulrike Lindemann Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: change position of included text? In-Reply-To: <4r8l69$53n@infosrv.rz.uni-kiel.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Try looking in Pine's Setup Configuration screen (use the Setup command at the main menu). Look through the various things you can set (using the built-in help if necessary). The one of particular interest to you is "signature-at-bottom". However setting it means you revert back to forcing your readers to wade through included old text before getting to your interesting new comments. The default is chosen deliberately so that the new material is presented first, with the old stuff there if necessary (but not dominating the message). Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 1 Jul 1996, Ulrike Lindemann wrote: > Hi all, > is it possible to tell pine not to put the included original message, > when making a reply, after the signature at the end of the new > maessage text? I'd like to have it at the beginning followed > by the cursor position and the signature. > > Any hints or ideas? > > Thanx, > Ulrike > > Lindemann@rz.uni-kiel.de > > -- > Ulrike Lindemann |\ Lindemann@rz.uni-kiel.de > Rechenzentrum der CAU Kiel __| \ Tel: +49-431-880-4660 > D-24098 Kiel |__| Fax: -1523 > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 1 09:15:17 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27954; Mon, 1 Jul 96 09:15:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09328; Mon, 1 Jul 96 09:06:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09282; Mon, 1 Jul 96 09:06:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ualRT-00038TC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 09:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: szscheer@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu (George Scheer) Subject: Application/OCTET-STREAM Date: 1 Jul 1996 15:59:28 GMT Message-Id: <4r8sl0$1sl@mark.ucdavis.edu> Hello, Anyone have any experience displaying attachments that use the above format? Thanks for any help. Please email me directly. --George From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 1 10:45:44 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02554; Mon, 1 Jul 96 10:45:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26401; Mon, 1 Jul 96 10:43:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26395; Mon, 1 Jul 96 10:43:38 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16449; Mon, 1 Jul 96 10:42:20 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:42:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Doug Fairclough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: build error : SYSTYPE in reply.c In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, Doug Fairclough wrote: > hi all ! > > i am trying to build for Solaris 2.5 on an ultra. i get the following > compile time error : > > reply.c: In function `generate_message_id': > reply.c:2495: `SYSTYPE' undeclared (first use this function) > reply.c:2495: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > reply.c:2495: for each function it appears in.) SYSTYPE should be getting set in makefile.xxx in the pine subdirectory. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 1 10:47:53 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02665; Mon, 1 Jul 96 10:47:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26474; Mon, 1 Jul 96 10:45:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26468; Mon, 1 Jul 96 10:45:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uan2e-00038TC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 10:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: krr@sn.no (Kristian Roenningen) Subject: Re: change position of included text? Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:11:36 +0200 Message-Id: <8rp8r4.jk.ln@localhost> References: <4r8l69$53n@infosrv.rz.uni-kiel.de> Ulrike Lindemann (szrzs077@solaire.mail.uni-kiel.de) wrote: > Any hints or ideas? pine, s, c, [X] signature-at-bottom Works for me :) --- Kristian Rønningen - k@sn.no - http://www.sn.no/~krr/ _NiC@irc - *_NiC@irc.nano.no - L.E.D. member From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 1 10:58:02 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03055; Mon, 1 Jul 96 10:58:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12602; Mon, 1 Jul 96 10:55:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12596; Mon, 1 Jul 96 10:55:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uanBM-00038BC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 10:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin B Fleming Subject: Re: Help on using pine to send e-mail with attachment Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 20:20:13 -0700 Message-Id: <31D34F6D.5D38@ecn.net.au> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bun wrote: > > I have a file(updated on a weekly basis) that needs to be sent through > e-mail on a regular basis. I want to use cron to automate the process. Can anyone walk me through how > to use pine (mailx, elm or mail) to accomplish that. > Pretty simple with mail (for SCO/Unix): cat filename | mail -s "subject" toaddress Kevin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 1 11:01:20 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03152; Mon, 1 Jul 96 11:01:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26754; Mon, 1 Jul 96 10:56:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26748; Mon, 1 Jul 96 10:55:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uanCG-00038TC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 10:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "MAS Inc." Subject: Re: How do I get pine to treat a mime type as text? Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:47:00 -0700 Message-Id: References: <4qs8fc$32d1@marcus.its.rpi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-2131424143-1181462513-836242895=:16024" In-Reply-To: <4qs8fc$32d1@marcus.its.rpi.edu> Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---2131424143-1181462513-836242895=:16024 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: On 26 Jun 1996, Antonio Enrique Prats wrote: > My school (as many do) does not allow CGI access, so I've just had my > forms mail the responses to me, and I just sort through the gobbledygook > myself. However, something must have changed, because I used to just be > able to read the response right in pine, and now what I see is > > [Part 1, Application/X-WWW-FORM-URLENCODED 86bytes] > [Can not display this part. Use the "V" command to save in a file] > > When I do that, it's just a simple text file as before. Is there anyway > to get pine to just display it, like it used to? I haven't changed > versions of pine, I'm sure it's just that some server software got > upgraded or something like that. I don't know if this will help you, but I have written simple urldecoder in C. If you can convince the system administrator at the school to compile it for you (or maybe you can do it in your personal directory), call it urldecode and put it in a bin directory. Then when you see the above message, press pipe (|) and type in urldecode. You will see your message in plain text. I guess there's also a way to get this setup in the new mailcap file. I don't know how to do this, though. Good luck. I've attached the source code. You can also get it at ftp.teleport.com/vendors/masi/pickup if that's your cup of tea. (To real C coders: please don't laugh at my code, I'm just a beginner. Is there a standard header file for hex to int conversion? I couldn't find one, so I wrote it.) Replies can be send to : knute@teleport.com ---MAS Inc. email: masi@teleport.com 15050 SW Koll Parkway, Suite C web: http://www.teleport.com/~masi Beaverton, OR 97006 phone: (503) 641-6200 ---2131424143-1181462513-836242895=:16024 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII; NAME="urldecode.c" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: LyoNCiAqIHVybGRlY29kZSAtIGRlY29kZXMgdXJsIHRleHQNCiAqDQogKiBT ZW5kIHVybCB0ZXh0IHRvIG15IHN0YW5kYXJkIGlucHV0LCBhbmQgSSB3aWxs IHNlbmQgcGFyc2VkIHRleHQNCiAqIHRvIG15IHN0YW5kYXJkIG91dHB1dC4g IERvIHdpdGggaXQgYXMgeW91IHdpbGwuDQogKi8NCg0KDQojaW5jbHVkZSA8 c3RkaW8uaD4NCiNpbmNsdWRlICJ4dG9pLmgiDQoNCg0KaW50IGdldGhleCgp DQp7DQoJY2hhciBzWzJdOw0KDQoJaWYgKCAoc1swXSA9IGdldGNoYXIoKSkg PT0gRU9GKSByZXR1cm4gRU9GOw0KCWlmICggKHNbMV0gPSBnZXRjaGFyKCkp ID09IEVPRikgcmV0dXJuIEVPRjsNCglzWzJdID0gJ1wwJzsNCglyZXR1cm4g KGludCl4dG9pKHMsIDIpOw0KfQ0KDQoNCnZvaWQgbWFpbigpDQp7DQoJaW50 IGNoOw0KDQoJZm9yKDs7KSB7DQoNCgkJaWYgKCAoY2ggPSBnZXRjaGFyKCkp ID09IEVPRiApIGJyZWFrOw0KDQoJCXN3aXRjaChjaCkgew0KCQkJY2FzZSAn Jic6IGNoID0gJ1xuJzsgYnJlYWs7DQoJCQljYXNlICcrJzogY2ggPSAnICc7 IGJyZWFrOw0KCQkJY2FzZSAnJSc6IGNoID0gZ2V0aGV4KCk7IGJyZWFrOw0K CQl9DQoNCgkJaWYgKGNoID09IEVPRiB8fCBjaCA9PSBCQURfSEVYX0RJR0lU KSBicmVhazsNCgkJcHV0Y2hhcihjaCk7DQoNCgl9DQp9DQo= ---2131424143-1181462513-836242895=:16024 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII; NAME="xtoi.h" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: LyoNCiAqICB4dG9pLmggLSBDb252ZXJ0IGEgImhleCIgc3RyaW5nIHRvIGEg bG9uZyBpbnRlZ2VyDQogKi8NCg0KI2RlZmluZSBCQURfSEVYX0RJR0lUIC0x DQoNCmludCBoZGlnaXQoY2hhciBpbikNCnsNCglzd2l0Y2ggKGluKSB7DQoJ CWNhc2UgJzAnOiByZXR1cm4gMDsNCgkJY2FzZSAnMSc6IHJldHVybiAxOw0K CQljYXNlICcyJzogcmV0dXJuIDI7DQoJCWNhc2UgJzMnOiByZXR1cm4gMzsN CgkJY2FzZSAnNCc6IHJldHVybiA0Ow0KCQljYXNlICc1JzogcmV0dXJuIDU7 DQoJCWNhc2UgJzYnOiByZXR1cm4gNjsNCgkJY2FzZSAnNyc6IHJldHVybiA3 Ow0KCQljYXNlICc4JzogcmV0dXJuIDg7DQoJCWNhc2UgJzknOiByZXR1cm4g OTsNCgkJY2FzZSAnQSc6IHJldHVybiAxMDsNCgkJY2FzZSAnQic6IHJldHVy biAxMTsNCgkJY2FzZSAnQyc6IHJldHVybiAxMjsNCgkJY2FzZSAnRCc6IHJl dHVybiAxMzsNCgkJY2FzZSAnRSc6IHJldHVybiAxNDsNCgkJY2FzZSAnRic6 IHJldHVybiAxNTsNCgkJZGVmYXVsdDogcmV0dXJuIEJBRF9IRVhfRElHSVQ7 DQoJfQ0KfQ0KDQpsb25nIHh0b2koY2hhciAqaW4sIGludCBsZW4pDQp7DQoJ bG9uZyBpbnQgb3V0ID0gMDsNCglpbnQgaSwgZDsNCg0KCWZvciAoaSA9IDA7 IGkgPCBsZW4gJiYgaW5baV0gIT0gJ1wwJzsgaSsrKSB7DQoJCWQgPSBoZGln aXQoaW5baV0pOw0KCQlpZiAoIGQgPT0gQkFEX0hFWF9ESUdJVCApDQoJCQly ZXR1cm4gZDsNCgkJZWxzZQ0KCQkJb3V0ID0gb3V0ICogMTYgKyBkOw0KCX0N Cg0KCXJldHVybiBvdXQ7DQp9DQo= ---2131424143-1181462513-836242895=:16024-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 1 14:03:24 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13093; Mon, 1 Jul 96 14:03:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17870; Mon, 1 Jul 96 14:01:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17863; Mon, 1 Jul 96 14:01:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uaq3j-00038BC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 13:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ??The Riddler?? Subject: Problems Viewing Newsgroups... Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:20:26 -0700 Message-Id: References: <4qskn2$842@doc.zippo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4qskn2$842@doc.zippo.com> When I select the newsgroups, I get a strange error: [ ** Empty List ** Select Here to Try Re-Expanding ] The news seems to be set up correctly.. I am using pine 3.91 for vax but the differences between it and uniz seem to be verry nominal.. please if you have any ideas either respond or mail me at.. jvahania@inreach.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 1 15:38:12 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17295; Mon, 1 Jul 96 15:38:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05254; Mon, 1 Jul 96 15:36:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05248; Mon, 1 Jul 96 15:36:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uarVE-00038BC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 15:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thu@satellite.oulu.fi (Thomas Ulich) Subject: Postponing REPLY ??? Date: 30 Jun 1996 15:42:34 GMT Message-Id: <4r679a$d5@ousrvr3.oulu.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello! When I press "R" for reply to a message, then I get these ">" characters in front of each line of the original message. When I want to reformat those lines with "CTRL-J", this works fine. Great feature! Then I postpone this message, and continue writing later. Then pico is not in "rply mode" and the "CTRL-J" does not work in quoted text anymore. Can I send pico into reply mode by hand, like in emacs when I say "M-x tex-mode" or something like that? Another consequence is that the original article will not get the "A" tag for an answered mail anymore, which I find not too bothering... Did I miss something, or does pine miss something??? -- Thomas Ulich NEW e-mail: thomas.ulich@sgo.fi www: http://cc.oulu.fi/~thu/ Inuit say: He who looks long upon the aurora soon goes mad. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 1 15:49:48 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17804; Mon, 1 Jul 96 15:49:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20925; Mon, 1 Jul 96 15:46:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20919; Mon, 1 Jul 96 15:46:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uarhE-00038BC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 15:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgross@skypoint.com (Jason E Gross) Subject: Re: HELP! Date: 1 Jul 1996 22:41:02 GMT Message-Id: <4r9k5u$375@stratus.skypoint.net> References: Gloria, welcome to the world of Windows GPF errors. In my past experience, most GPFs originate from a corrupt video driver, no matter the syptoms (I once had a Word for Windows crashing situation whenever a printing was called for....replacing the video driver fixed it). In your present situation, though, my recommendation would be to simply take 15 minutes, and remove your printer driver for your HP DJ 600, and re install it from the installation diskette. You could also do this for your 28.8 fax modem, if you wish. I would lay bets that it should fix your troubles. If that doesn't work, try re-installing your video driver. :) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 1 16:48:59 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20272; Mon, 1 Jul 96 16:48:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07080; Mon, 1 Jul 96 16:47:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07074; Mon, 1 Jul 96 16:47:09 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09962; Mon, 1 Jul 96 16:47:07 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:47:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Brad Garcia Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reading uuencoded attachments In-Reply-To: <4qukmr$npr@cherokee.fore.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Brad, That message would appear to be a futile and doomed attempt to merge uuencode and MIME technology. The MIME spec defines several Content-Transfer-Encodings, but X-UUENCODE (or even UUENCODE) is not one of them, and I'm pretty sure it never will be. (I believe there is an appendix in the MIME spec that explains why Base-64 encoding was chosen over uuencode, by the way.) People who are sending MIME attachments with MIME headers should use MIME (B64 or QP) encoding!!! If backwards compatibility with uuencode is needed, I'd recommend sending a conventional uuencoded message, without trying to pretend it is a valid MIME CTE. Do you know what mailer is attempting to perpetrate this evil? -teg On 27 Jun 1996, Brad Garcia wrote: > Not sure if this is pine specific or a mime/mailcap problem, but if > someone can help me I sure would appreciate it. > > I have a message with a uuencoded text file as an attachment. > How can I read it? I'm using pine 3.94. > > I've tried setting display-filters to run uudecode, but that didn't help. > (maybe I have the trigger wrong?). > > I've tried creating a mailcap entry (I've just started learning, so I > may not have gotten it correct). > > Pine complains: > > Don't know how to unpack "X-UUENCODE" encoding > > > Pine gives the following details about the attachment: > > Type : Text > Subtype : PLAIN > Encoding : X-UUENCODE > Parameters : NAME = SWHWOU~2.TXT > X-MAC-TYPE = 54455854 > X-MAC-CREATOR = 74747874 > Approx. Size : 1,975 bytes > Display Method : Can't, Unknown Encoding > > Yes, I can save it to a file and run uudecode, but I'm hoping for a > better solution. > > -- > Brad Garcia > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 1 17:33:07 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23146; Mon, 1 Jul 96 17:33:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08292; Mon, 1 Jul 96 17:31:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08286; Mon, 1 Jul 96 17:31:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uatLO-00038BC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 17:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dw@freenet.npiec.on.ca (D. Wilson) Subject: -Question: Pine 3.93 and beeps- Date: 1 Jul 1996 20:39:15 GMT Message-Id: <4r9d1j$q7i@brain.npiec.on.ca> Please reply directly to: dw@freenet.npiec.on.ca With Pine 3.93: Is it possible for a person to send email to the Pine 3.93 inbox and have it BEEP several times versus the usual one BEEP ? This would be used to signal special email has arrived. Thanks in advance for any help. Cheers! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 1 17:49:41 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23784; Mon, 1 Jul 96 17:49:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08639; Mon, 1 Jul 96 17:48:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nova.edmonds.wednet.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08633; Mon, 1 Jul 96 17:48:26 -0700 Received: from localhost by edmonds.wednet.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-Nova1) id RAA28300; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:49:02 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:49:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Susan Scanlon (EWH)" To: Nova Technical Support Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Expunge??? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When the confirmation for delete of messages comes back to me, it uses the word "EXPUNGE" ! It is not immediately apparent just what will happen if I answer "yes" or "no" to this request. Do you know what "expunge" means. And can you tell me what the "yes" and "no" answers will do? And can you change that message so that I don't have to curse you every time I can't remember whether "expunge" means "to take out" or "get rid of" or "destroy" ...... !?! Whoever wrote that message should have to answer this note --- and all other hate mail over any other confusions your system has intentionally built in. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23859; Mon, 1 Jul 96 17:50:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24196; Mon, 1 Jul 96 17:47:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from frnd-79ppp51.epix.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24176; Mon, 1 Jul 96 17:47:18 -0700 Received: from localhost (stanassc@localhost) by stanassc.epix.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA01243 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:09:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: stanassc.epix.net: stanassc owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:09:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Stanfield To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Sender/X-Sender Msg Line Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1462601269-836266154=:1226" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1462601269-836266154=:1226 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII U'all I am a single user of pine on a stand alone PC home computer that I use for all sorts of personal, business and volunteer purposes. I have been using pine since Oct 95. There is no(?) explanation of the need/source/.. of the Sender/X-Sender line in the header file. For ordinary e-mail, this does not interfere with message transmission. My "sys-adm's" computer uses pine, he doesn't get this line, and we can figure out why. However, when trying to do a batch {archie}, the return message gets sent to a non-existent address. How do I turn this line off absolutely? How do I make this line conform to an address I can absolutely specify? How do I get around this line? Help me ask the right question. 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(5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24250; Mon, 1 Jul 96 18:01:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08909; Mon, 1 Jul 96 18:00:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc1.nerc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08903; Mon, 1 Jul 96 18:00:13 -0700 Received: from nerc.com ([205.247.120.232]) by nerc1.nerc.com (8.6.9/8.6.7) with ESMTP id VAA26231; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:00:25 -0400 Received: (from luomat@localhost) by nerc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA05902; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:00:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607020100.VAA05902@nerc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.3) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Mon, 1 Jul 96 21:00:00 -0400 To: "Susan Scanlon (EWH)" Subject: Re: Expunge??? Cc: Nova Technical Support , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Reply-To: luomat@nerc.com References: Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary "Susan Scanlon (EWH)" on Mon, 1 Jul 1996 wrote: > When the confirmation for delete of messages comes back to me, = it > uses the word "EXPUNGE" ! It is not immediately apparent just = what > will happen if I answer "yes" or "no" to this request. Do you = know > what "expunge" means. And can you tell me what the "yes" and = "no" > answers will do? > And can you change that message so that I don't have to curse = you > every time I can't remember whether "expunge" means "to take = out" > or "get rid of" or "destroy" ...... !?! >=20 > Whoever wrote that message should have to answer this note --- = and > all other hate mail over any other confusions your system has > intentionally built in. Sounds like a place to use one of the many handy features of PINE: [ ] expunge-without-confirm =20 mark that with an X to set (yes, I know it would make more sense = to have "S" mean "set") If it helps any, think of these words: exit - to go out excommunicate - to cast out extract - to pull out exodus - to go out That's how I remember it (no joke). TjL = --------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Timothy J. Luoma =20 NeXTMail adored! (MIME/SUN also accepted) NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info Watch this space for my Webpage (Soon!) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24737; Mon, 1 Jul 96 18:23:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24883; Mon, 1 Jul 96 18:21:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24877; Mon, 1 Jul 96 18:21:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uau89-00038BC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 18:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: DJRambo Subject: Marking news items Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:03:37 EST Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a way to have the news items one has read marked as such, even after exiting and re-entering Pine. In other words all new items are marked as new every time I open Pine. This makes finding where I left off in any particular group tiring. Daniel J Rambo Cole Service Bldg. Miami University Oxford, Ohio 45056 Rambodj@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25762; Mon, 1 Jul 96 19:18:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10275; Mon, 1 Jul 96 19:16:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10269; Mon, 1 Jul 96 19:16:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uauwr-00038BC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 19:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stan Kalisch III Subject: Re: email spam Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:09:17 -0700 Message-Id: References: <4q6nep$hsj@babbage.ece.uc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, Hynek Med wrote: > On 18 Jun 1996, Jie Yuan wrote: > > > >The spammers are now using fake addresses, so that sending them their own > > >message (copied 50+ times, of course:-) returns with a message saying > > >that no such party exists. > > > > > >Is there a newsgroup for this ? Is there software to help ? > > > > I have seen some discussions in alt.security.pgp group. > > Sorry to talk off-topic, but there are official newsgroups for discussing > spamming, both e-mail and USENET spams: news.admin.net-abuse.announce > (moderated?) and news.admin.net-abuse.misc. news.admin.net-abuse.announce is indeed moderated--primarily for announcements of administrative actions taken against net abuse--while news.admin.net-abuse.misc serves more as a discussion forum--and as a newsgroup where one can make followups or public replies to or comment on announcements made in news.admin.net-abuse.announce . If you encounter a spam--and you think it needs to come to others' attention--read news.admin.net-abuse.announce, and news.admin.net-abuse.misc--and if there is something you feel missing--make your post(s) to news.admin.net-abuse.misc . [Please make any followups to news.admin.net-abuse.misc .] Stan - --------------------- View current public PGP key at URL http://www.crl.com/~sjkiii/PGP.Current_Public_Key - --------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMdiE1ZyiGl9g1kgJAQH7PAP/Wv08rs7GYCTTQsItCnQ3taw/J3wj65yo mu89JHRPtinPblDvim2J+eQLP21PmS5S9a39MzfOqrYfMFeHVqX7MAqppW3A3/i3 kDQlm5P/nCRnFQVapFnMUG/dqRscPOaOkZaDSRVbSFQCEsBb3uAgFZv9EKAlfOCH E5501nhlMXo= =ZomL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26774; Mon, 1 Jul 96 20:18:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26571; Mon, 1 Jul 96 20:17:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26563; Mon, 1 Jul 96 20:17:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uavt8-00038BC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 20:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: adreyer@uni-paderborn.de (Achim Dreyer) Subject: Re: When pine 3.95 out? Date: 27 Jun 1996 14:33:57 GMT Message-Id: <4qu64l$ova@news.uni-paderborn.de> References: <4qf0g5$rjq@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> ADAM Sulmicki (adam@cfar.umd.edu) wrote: : It is a bit hard to define. However I think I can divide it into two : subproblems: : 1) pine sometimes forgets to remove the "N" mark _after_ I read the : message, and only pressing D and then U, removes the "N" mark. I'm using 3.92 and a similar thing occurs when I'm reading just the first part of a multipart/mixed massage.. : Adam Sulmicki : System staff for CfAR, UMIACS, CS Ciao, Achim (postmaster@math.uni-paderborn.de) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27972; Mon, 1 Jul 96 21:26:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27476; Mon, 1 Jul 96 21:22:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27470; Mon, 1 Jul 96 21:22:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uawuM-00038BC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 21:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kjh@pollux.usc.edu (Kenneth J. Hendrickson) Subject: X-Face or picon support Date: 27 Jun 1996 09:00:51 -0700 Message-Id: <4qub7j$glq@pollux.usc.edu> It would be really neat if elm supported the X-Face header line. This line contains an encoded compressed 48x48 bit image. (Actually, it would be nice if all mail user agents supported X-Face. Some, including exmh and meuf already do.) An option should list a file from which to get the X-Face data. If this option is filled, the X-Face header line should be included in all sent mail. An option should be provided to list a program which can display the X-Face. Another option should be provided to control how faces are displayed when an X-Face header line is encountered in mail being read. Possible options might be always, never, or on-demand. The program should be spawned appropriately and fed the X-Face data on stdin. Software for using and generating X-Face data is archived at ftp://ftp.cs.indiana.edu:/pub/faces/index.html A brief description of how to generate X-Face data is given at http://www.miranova.com/~steve/xemacs-miscellaneous.html#Q5_3_10 I am not aware of any RFC that discuses any standards for the X-Face header line, or anything similar. If there isn't one, then perhaps one should be written. X-Face header lines should be of very reasonable length, because only 288 bytes would be needed even without compression. However, X-Face images have a bit depth of only 2; they are monochrome images. They don't look all that nice. There is another standard, the picon standard, that allows each bit to take on either one of 16 grayscale values, or one of 32 colours. This allows for very nice looking and recognizable pictures. Even this is not excessive; picons should take less than 1.5kB, and they can be transmitted in less than 1 second on a 28.8 kB/s modem. Any standard should support 1, 4, or 5 bits/pixel. -- http://www-scf.usc.edu/~khendric/ kjh@seas.smu.edu, kjh@pollux.usc.edu PGP Key Fingerprint 02 6A 4F DE DD 77 A1 8B 21 D9 81 EB ED C8 3A DC We are upping our standards ... so up yours. Ken Hendrickson N8DGN/5 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00499; Mon, 1 Jul 96 23:30:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13410; Mon, 1 Jul 96 23:27:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13404; Mon, 1 Jul 96 23:27:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uayul-00038TC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 23:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jeremy@hiway1.exit109.com (Jeremy) Subject: Re: Newsgroups? Date: 2 Jul 1996 00:05:37 -0400 Message-Id: <4ra76h$qsu@hiway1.exit109.com> References: ltao@jell.fullerton.edu (Li Tao) wrote: >Is there any newsgroups about pine? Is there is, how can I subscribe to >them (if I like them)? Interesting question, considering I found it in comp.mail.pine. -- Jeremy jeremy@exit109.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01011; Mon, 1 Jul 96 23:57:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29421; Mon, 1 Jul 96 23:54:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29415; Mon, 1 Jul 96 23:54:33 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 2 Jul 96 14:58:35 +0800 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:52:35 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Jeremy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Newsgroups? In-Reply-To: <4ra76h$qsu@hiway1.exit109.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 2 Jul 1996, Jeremy wrote: > ltao@jell.fullerton.edu (Li Tao) wrote: > >Is there any newsgroups about pine? Is there is, how can I subscribe to > >them (if I like them)? > > Interesting question, considering I found it in comp.mail.pine. Not so interesting when you consider that there is a bi-directional gateway between comp.mail.pine and pine-info@cac.washington.edu. :-) Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01063; Mon, 1 Jul 96 23:59:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13782; Mon, 1 Jul 96 23:57:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hiway1.exit109.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13776; Mon, 1 Jul 96 23:57:53 -0700 Received: (from jeremy@localhost) by hiway1.exit109.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id CAA28611; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 02:56:05 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 02:56:05 -0400 (EDT) From: jeremy@exit109.com To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Newsgroups? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 2 Jul 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2 Jul 1996, Jeremy wrote: > > ltao@jell.fullerton.edu (Li Tao) wrote: > > >Is there any newsgroups about pine? Is there is, how can I subscribe to > > >them (if I like them)? > > > > Interesting question, considering I found it in comp.mail.pine. > > Not so interesting when you consider that there is a bi-directional > gateway between comp.mail.pine and pine-info@cac.washington.edu. :-) Ah. Heehee. Silly me. Nevermind... -- Jeremy jeremy@exit109.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02172; Tue, 2 Jul 96 00:49:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00220; Tue, 2 Jul 96 00:47:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00214; Tue, 2 Jul 96 00:47:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ub09g-00038BC; Tue, 2 Jul 96 00:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgross@skypoint.com (Jason E Gross) Subject: Help: Auto-Responding Thingy Date: 1 Jul 1996 22:53:49 GMT Message-Id: <4r9ktt$375@stratus.skypoint.net> I would appreciate any help with this topic: I'm currently using Pine v3.91, under a Unix shell account. I'm trying to start an abuse.recovery mail listing with a select group of people through the internet (we'd rather do it from mail than go to a news group, as it's too "public" and flaming, etc. - not a 'safe' place). I thought somehow supported the ability to redirect new messages coming in to a different folder. If so, can anyone tell me how? Simply, if the subject of a specific message contains a special string, I'd like it to get tossed to a different folder other than INBOX. What I'd *really* like is an ability for it to automatically forward those special letters to a distribution list I've created in my address book. Scenario: 1. A letter from one of the "group" comes into my mailbox. 2. Pine recognizes it is a "group" letter, and either: A. tosses it to a special folder (so that I can bounce it to the distribution list in my addressbook manually). or B. automatically bounces/forwards it to the distribution list that's in my addressbook. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I just have to believe this is possible, especially if the "vacation" thingy works in Unix. Again, it's Pine v3.91, unix shell environment. Responses can either be here, or via email: jgross@skypoint.com Thanks a ton. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02425; Tue, 2 Jul 96 01:02:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14563; Tue, 2 Jul 96 01:00:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14557; Tue, 2 Jul 96 01:00:30 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 2 Jul 1996 08:58:20 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA12144; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:00:09 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:00:09 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Ru-Yi Shen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to solve? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If you delete a file on your computer system (and a folder of messages is just stored in a file) then your ONLY hope is to contact your systems manager and ask -- very nicely -- if they take security copies of the disks from time to time and, if so, could they possibly restore your file. Be warned, however, that these copies may only be taken once or twice a week, so you may not get a terribly up-to-date copy of the file back (assuming they're willing to do such a restore "just" for e-mail). Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Ru-Yi Shen wrote: > HI, Dear Editor: > How to take back the folder I deleted about "sent-mail-may-1996"? > I deleted all the folders that I'd like to keep them. > > Thank you!! > > Emily Shen > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02574; Tue, 2 Jul 96 01:10:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00448; Tue, 2 Jul 96 01:05:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00442; Tue, 2 Jul 96 01:05:45 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:03:17 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA12761; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:05:08 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:05:07 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Susan Scanlon (EWH)" Cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Expunge??? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "Expunge" is a perfectly valid English word meaning (pauses to reach for the dictionary on his shelf) "erase, destroy". Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Susan Scanlon (EWH) wrote: > When the confirmation for delete of messages comes back to me, it > uses the word "EXPUNGE" ! It is not immediately apparent just what will > happen if I answer "yes" or "no" to this request. Do you know what > "expunge" means. And can you tell me what the "yes" and "no" answers will > do? > And can you change that message so that I don't have to curse you every > time I can't remember whether "expunge" means "to take out" or "get rid > of" or "destroy" ...... !?! > > Whoever wrote that message should have to answer this note --- and all > other hate mail over any other confusions your system has intentionally > built in. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02689; Tue, 2 Jul 96 01:10:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00478; Tue, 2 Jul 96 01:07:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00472; Tue, 2 Jul 96 01:07:49 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:05:39 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA13004; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:07:32 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:07:32 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: DJRambo Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Marking news items In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Of course there is... and it is described in the built-in help available at Pine's Main Menu (in the section entitled "Reading News" -- hint: once you have the help screens up give the "W" (Where) command to search for the string "Reading News"). Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, DJRambo wrote: > Is there a way to have the news items one has read marked as > such, even after exiting and re-entering Pine. In other words all new > items are marked as new every time I open Pine. This makes finding where > I left off in any particular group tiring. > > Daniel J Rambo > Cole Service Bldg. > Miami University > Oxford, Ohio 45056 > Rambodj@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03518; Tue, 2 Jul 96 01:31:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14843; Tue, 2 Jul 96 01:27:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14837; Tue, 2 Jul 96 01:27:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ub0mn-00038BC; Tue, 2 Jul 96 01:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sami Tikka Subject: send and display filters not functional in PC-Pine? Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 18:53:02 -0200 Message-Id: <31D597AD.628D@research.nokia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've tried setting up the send and display filters of PC-Pine for Windows (32-bit) so that sending PGP messages would become easier. Pine accepts the filters, but acts like they don't exist. Are the filters not functional in PC-Pine? Why? I understand that there might be problems with Win16 API, but it should be possible to implement the filters with Win32 API. What other functionalities are missing from the PC-Pine? Sami From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04756; Tue, 2 Jul 96 02:51:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01603; Tue, 2 Jul 96 02:47:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01597; Tue, 2 Jul 96 02:47:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ub1zg-00038BC; Tue, 2 Jul 96 02:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: seaelle@email.unc.edu (C Lassiter) Subject: How to set up a Vacation Auto-respond? Date: 27 Jun 1996 16:55:20 GMT Message-Id: <4quedo$dok@newz.oit.unc.edu> Well, that pretty much says it all. When one is away, how does one set up an autoresponse informing others to contact someone else in the office--so they won't wonder why they're getting no response for 10 days. Thanks. cl ____________________________________________________ C.L. Lassiter, Director Student Services Department of Environmental Sciences and Engineering CB# 7400 Rosenau Hall The University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7400 919-966-3844 919-966-7911 (fax) email: SEAELLE@UNC.EDU From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04857; Tue, 2 Jul 96 02:55:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15739; Tue, 2 Jul 96 02:52:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15733; Tue, 2 Jul 96 02:52:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ub27H-00038TC; Tue, 2 Jul 96 02:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jti@i-manila.com.ph (Jerome Tan) Subject: Public Access Unix? Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 09:46:14 GMT Message-Id: <31d7f9e9.22111698@news.sequel.net> Does anyone here know any public access Unix shell? I am trying to access it using Telnet. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04925; Tue, 2 Jul 96 03:01:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01692; Tue, 2 Jul 96 02:57:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01686; Tue, 2 Jul 96 02:57:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ub28p-00038BC; Tue, 2 Jul 96 02:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bw004d@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Brendan White) Subject: Re: Expunge??? Message-Id: <1996Jul2.021011.11617@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> References: Date: Tue, 2 Jul 96 02:10:11 GMT In scanlons@nova.edmonds.wednet.edu ("Susan Scanlon (EWH)") writes: > When the confirmation for delete of messages comes back to me, it >uses the word "EXPUNGE" ! It is not immediately apparent just what will >happen if I answer "yes" or "no" to this request. Do you know what >"expunge" means. And can you tell me what the "yes" and "no" answers will >do? >And can you change that message so that I don't have to curse you every >time I can't remember whether "expunge" means "to take out" or "get rid >of" or "destroy" ...... !?! >Whoever wrote that message should have to answer this note --- and all >other hate mail over any other confusions your system has intentionally >built in. Ummm... sorry if using words in the english language frightens you. chill. -- Brendan White bw004d@uhura.cc.rochester.edu "Strange how laughter looks like crying with no sound.. raindrops taste like tears without the pain" -- Queensryche From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05525; Tue, 2 Jul 96 03:26:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16091; Tue, 2 Jul 96 03:22:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16085; Tue, 2 Jul 96 03:22:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ub2YB-00038BC; Tue, 2 Jul 96 03:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Yury Burkatovsky Subject: Re: Help: Auto-Responding Thingy Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4r9ktt$375@stratus.skypoint.net> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 08:49:04 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <4r9ktt$375@stratus.skypoint.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 On 1 Jul 1996, Jason E Gross wrote: > I would appreciate any help with this topic: > > I'm currently using Pine v3.91, under a Unix shell account. > > > I thought somehow supported the ability to redirect new messages coming > in to a different folder. If so, can anyone tell me how? Simply, if the > subject of a specific message contains a special string, I'd like it to > get tossed to a different folder other than INBOX. > > What I'd *really* like is an ability for it to automatically forward > those special letters to a distribution list I've created in my address book. > > Scenario: > 1. A letter from one of the "group" comes into my mailbox. > 2. Pine recognizes it is a "group" letter, and either: > A. tosses it to a special folder (so that I can bounce it to > the distribution list in my addressbook manually). > > or > B. automatically bounces/forwards it to the distribution > list that's in my addressbook. > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. I just have to believe this is > possible, especially if the "vacation" thingy works in Unix. > > Again, it's Pine v3.91, unix shell environment. Responses can either be > here, or via email: jgross@skypoint.com > > Thanks a ton. > Jason, This is really possible. You need to have any mail filter program installed, e.g. procmail. Some simple configuration rules should be set in order to have different messages either stored in separate folders, redirected to other users or not stored at any place. I use procmail in Unix. The following is an excerpt from my .procmailrc file: # setting of environment variables MAILDIR=$HOME/mail LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/procmail.log VERBOSE=on # Direct all messages from Arutz 7 into the appropriate folder :0: * ^Sender: owner-arutz-7@jer1.co.il Arutz7 -- Regards, | /^^^\ Yury Burkatovsky | (| , , |) | | * | E-mail: tby@cpm.telrad.co.il | \_-_/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06141; Tue, 2 Jul 96 03:56:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16387; Tue, 2 Jul 96 03:53:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhub.fore.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16381; Tue, 2 Jul 96 03:53:23 -0700 Received: from dolphin.fore.com ([192.88.243.27]) by fore.com (8.7.3/8.6.11) with ESMTP id GAA12180; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 06:50:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cherokee.fore.com ([204.95.89.112]) by dolphin.fore.com (8.7.3/3.4W4) with SMTP id GAA12959; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 06:53:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by cherokee.fore.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24844; Tue, 2 Jul 96 06:56:39 EDT Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 06:56:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brad M. Garcia" X-Sender: bgarcia@cherokee To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reading uuencoded attachments In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > Do you know what mailer is attempting to perpetrate this evil? Oh yes. Eudora 2.1.1 for Windows. What's even worse was that it was originally attempting to mail the file by BINHEXing it first!!!! It's a stupid little text file! Why does it feel the need to do *anything* to it?! Brad Garcia From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08125; Tue, 2 Jul 96 04:38:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02995; Tue, 2 Jul 96 04:26:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02989; Tue, 2 Jul 96 04:26:22 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:22:19 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA19577; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:24:05 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:24:05 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: C Lassiter Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to set up a Vacation Auto-respond? In-Reply-To: <4quedo$dok@newz.oit.unc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Short answer: This is nothing to do with Pine (which is only for reading messages AFTER they have been delivered). Longer answer: Instead you have to persuade the mail delivery software your computers use to generate the automatic reply. UNIX systems typically have a program called "vacation" to do this. Try doing a "man vacation" to read its manual page on how it is used. If you need further assistance (problems understanding the man page, vacation not installed on your system, etc) try asking your local support centre (who'll know far better than us random people around the world what software they have installed on their computers:-) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 27 Jun 1996, C Lassiter wrote: > Well, that pretty much says it all. When one is away, how does one set > up an autoresponse informing others to contact someone else in the > office--so they won't wonder why they're getting no response for 10 days. > > Thanks. > > cl > ____________________________________________________ > C.L. Lassiter, Director > Student Services > Department of Environmental Sciences and Engineering > CB# 7400 Rosenau Hall > The University of North Carolina > Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7400 > > 919-966-3844 > 919-966-7911 (fax) > > email: SEAELLE@UNC.EDU > > > > > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10294; Tue, 2 Jul 96 06:40:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04391; Tue, 2 Jul 96 06:32:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from augite.ncic1.ac.cn by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04377; Tue, 2 Jul 96 06:31:58 -0700 Received: (from huang@localhost) by augite.ncic.ac.cn (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA19164 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 21:33:33 +0900 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 21:33:33 +0900 From: huang@augite.ncic.ac.cn Message-Id: <199607021233.VAA19164@augite.ncic.ac.cn> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help hi: I have the following troubles when i tried to compile imap-4 In file included from osdep.h:45, from mail.c:40: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-aix4.1/2.7.2/include/string.h:74: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-aix4.1/2.7.2/include/string.h:106: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-aix4.1/2.7.2/include/string.h:110: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-aix4.1/2.7.2/include/string.h:111: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' cc -g -Dconst= -Dunix=1 -D_BSD -c misc.c In file included from osdep.h:45, from misc.c:47: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-aix4.1/2.7.2/include/string.h:74: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-aix4.1/2.7.2/include/string.h:106: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-aix4.1/2.7.2/include/string.h:110: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-aix4.1/2.7.2/include/string.h:111: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' cc -g -Dconst= -Dunix=1 -D_BSD -c newsrc.c In file included from osdep.h:45, from newsrc.c:40: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-aix4.1/2.7.2/include/string.h:74: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-aix4.1/2.7.2/include/string.h:106: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-aix4.1/2.7.2/include/string.h:110: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-aix4.1/2.7.2/include/string.h:111: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' cc -g -Dconst= -Dunix=1 -D_BSD -c smanager.c In file included from osdep.h:45, from smanager.c:40: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-aix4.1/2.7.2/include/string.h:74: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-aix4.1/2.7.2/include/string.h:106: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-aix4.1/2.7.2/include/string.h:110: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-aix4.1/2.7.2/include/string.h:111: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' cc -g -Dconst= -Dunix=1 -D_BSD -DSTDPROTO=bezerkproto -DRSH=\"rsh\" -DRSHPATH=\"/usr/bin/rsh\" -c os_a32.c In file included from osdep.h:45, from os_a32.c:38: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-aix4.1/2.7.2/include/string.h:74: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-aix4.1/2.7.2/include/string.h:106: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-aix4.1/2.7.2/include/string.h:110: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-aix4.1/2.7.2/include/string.h:111: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' flock.c: In function `bsd_flock': In file included from os_a32.c:69: flock.c:44: storage size of `fl' isn't known make: 1254-004 ÉÏÒ»žöÃüÁîµÄŽíÎóÂëÊÇ1¡£ Í£Ö¹¡£ make: 1254-004 ÉÏÒ»žöÃüÁîµÄŽíÎóÂëÊÇ2¡£ Í£Ö¹¡£ make: 1254-004 ÉÏÒ»žöÃüÁîµÄŽíÎóÂëÊÇ2¡£ Í£Ö¹¡£ make: 1254-004 ÉÏÒ»žöÃüÁîµÄŽíÎóÂëÊÇ2¡£ Í£Ö¹¡£ Can you tell me what can i do? thanks! (my platform:Powerpc and AIX4.1) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12347; Tue, 2 Jul 96 08:14:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05681; Tue, 2 Jul 96 08:02:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05675; Tue, 2 Jul 96 08:02:49 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18598; Tue, 2 Jul 96 08:02:46 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 08:02:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Brad M. Garcia" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reading uuencoded attachments In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Brad, There are reasons to encode text files... Pine does it too. (The problem is that the Internet mail infrastructure is not completely 7bit clean, much less 8bit clean, so even ascii text files can be corrupted.) But I think that promulgating this "X-UUENCODE" CTE is pretty egregious. (As is using binhex --though I thought that was configurable in Eudora.) -teg On Tue, 2 Jul 1996, Brad M. Garcia wrote: > On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > > > Do you know what mailer is attempting to perpetrate this evil? > > Oh yes. Eudora 2.1.1 for Windows. > What's even worse was that it was originally attempting to mail the > file by BINHEXing it first!!!! > > It's a stupid little text file! Why does it feel the need to do > *anything* to it?! > > Brad Garcia From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14182; Tue, 2 Jul 96 08:52:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07019; Tue, 2 Jul 96 08:48:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [138.92.8.1] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07011; Tue, 2 Jul 96 08:48:09 -0700 Received: from gort.canisius.edu by klaatu.canisius.edu (4.1/CCCS-2.11) id AA23748; Tue, 2 Jul 96 11:44:24 EDT Received: from gort.canisius.edu by gort.canisius.edu (SMI-8.6/CC_ITS-SVR4/Canisius-2.04) id LAA18541; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:50:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:50:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Randy Brozyna To: ??The Riddler?? Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Every Time I try to use 'COMPOSE MAIL" I get an ERROR HELP!!! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, ??The Riddler?? wrote: > Ever time I Try to COMPOSE MAIL I get the error: > > "Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". > Exiting pine." > > If you have any answers PLEASE respond... to this or > jvahanian@vms1.cc.uop.edu > Thank you > I've just started using Pine 3.91 and came across what sounds identical. Below is listed what I posted to our local help desk: Pine will normally access the local file structure seeking the sent-mail file. However, if the pinerc has been modified to include a ftp site, as in: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] and this occurs first in the folder-collection, then Pine will abort. Solution: Delete file named core from users directory. Make certain sent-mail file location occurs first in folder-collections, as in: mail/[] brozynar@canisius.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17701; Tue, 2 Jul 96 09:37:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08512; Tue, 2 Jul 96 09:28:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08506; Tue, 2 Jul 96 09:28:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ub8HN-00038BC; Tue, 2 Jul 96 09:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bgarcia@fore.com (Brad Garcia) Subject: Re: Linux Version 3.94 Date: 28 Jun 1996 07:01:38 -0400 Message-Id: <4r0e2i$nuv@cherokee.fore.com> References: admin@nyhs.med.cornell.edu (Admin User) writes: |> I got a copy pf pine-bin.linux and when I try to run it I get an error |> "Segmentation fault". |> Any sugestions? |> Pine 3.94 Linux 1.2.13 Is your system a.out or ELF? You may be trying to run an ELF binary on an a.out system. |> > I just downloaded the Linux binary for Pine 3.94. When I attempt to run it, |> > it says "Command not found" and stops. Any ideas? I'm running kernel 1.1.94 |> > of Linux. |> > |> > ============================================================================= |> > John Davis jbdavis@osbm9.osbm.state.nc.us/jbdavis@pobox.com |> > Cary, North Carolina http://www.webbuild.com/~jbdavis/ |> > ============================================================================= Either make sure the directory that contains the executable is in your PATH, or cd to the directory and run "./pine". Also, do you have an a.out or an ELF system? Again, you may be trying to run an ELF binary on an a.out system. Try compiling the source code yourself. It's fun! -- Brad Garcia From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18407; Tue, 2 Jul 96 09:50:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08944; Tue, 2 Jul 96 09:41:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08938; Tue, 2 Jul 96 09:41:46 -0700 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Tue, 2 Jul 96 18:41 MEST Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Tue, 2 Jul 96 18:41 MET DST Received: by petzval.math.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Tue, 2 Jul 96 18:41 MET DST Message-Id: From: stucki@math.fu-berlin.de (Stucki) Subject: Re: upgrade pine.conf too ? (and then...) To: jandrea@juliet.stfx.ca (John Andrea) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 18:41:23 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <4qs4lm$ssg@News.Dal.Ca> from "John Andrea" at Jun 26, 96 07:56:38 pm X-Testheader: Written by C. v. Stuckrad, FB. Mathematik, EDV X-Testheader: FU-Berlin, Dahlem, Arnimallee 2-6, 14195 Berlin, GERMANY X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1246 Hi! > I just upgraded unix system pine from 3.91 to 3.94 (oooh, nice features). > Should I also upgrade the /usr/local/pine.conf system defaults file ? Well, we updated about three weeks ago and NOW realized something is amiss (everything is send with sender '@@' TWO 'AT' signs), AND I updated the configs too. NOW the old Version behaves erratic too, so it must be in the updated configs, so I'll have to get the configs back from tape. SO, IF YOU UPDATE, ***SAVE*** the old progs AND configs !!! Just an idea, Stucki **v** ----v----------------------------------------------------------- S * | Christoph von Stuckrad | \ t / * | Dahlem | ...!unido!fub!leibniz!stucki| u / * | Fachbereich Mathematik, EDV | Tel:+49 30 838-754{9|8} | - - C | Freie Universitaet Berlin | Fax:+49 30 838-5913 | k \ * | Arnimallee 2-6 | IRC: /nick stucki | r \ * | D-14195 Berlin | PGP: not yet certified :-( | a * | Germany | ask for key by mail / **d** ----^----------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19602; Tue, 2 Jul 96 10:17:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24116; Tue, 2 Jul 96 10:14:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from frank.mtsu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24110; Tue, 2 Jul 96 10:14:34 -0700 Received: by frank.mtsu.edu (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA192607747; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:15:47 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:15:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Myron Wayne Jones To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Filter Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I use the elm filter feature with pine to filter incomming e-mail into several different folders. My problem is that I cannot tell when I have new mail because it is automatically moved from my INBOX to the folders I have specified. Is there a way for me to have pine indicate that new mail has been delivered and in to what folder it was placed?? o +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Myron Wayne Jones + + email: chem000c@frank.mtsu.edu + + homepage: http://www.mtsu.edu/~chem000c + + snail mail: MTSU Box D750 + + Murfreesboro, TN 37132 USA + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20625; Tue, 2 Jul 96 10:46:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24927; Tue, 2 Jul 96 10:43:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24921; Tue, 2 Jul 96 10:43:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ub9QS-00038TC; Tue, 2 Jul 96 10:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: valerie@news.netgate.net (Valerie Lambert) Subject: Win95 Pine with Emacs as alternate editor Date: 27 Jun 1996 23:32:02 GMT Message-Id: <4qv5li$shd@ss.netgate.net> Hi again, Moving along in the struggle to make Win95 usable to a Unix dweeb... I have downloaded and successfully installed and run Emacs 19.31 (there was an initial stumbling block: the Emacs bat file cannot be invoked directly because it does not properly allocate the initial environment memory. The Emacs notes supplied a helpful workaround of making a shortcut icon and updating its memory properties. So, fine, that works). Not one to be patient, I immediately attempted to use Emacs as the alternate editor for Pine message composition. The closest I can get to interoperability of Pine with Emacs is to invoke the shortcut file (\windows\desktop\emacs.pif). This almost works: at least Emacs runs, and it gets the text of the message thus far composed in Pico. Alas, shortly thereafter (10-30 seconds), Pine decides that the Emacs session is finished, whether or not I have concluded my message edits and exited Emacs. I have fiddled with all the properties of the Emacs shortcut icon and cannot solve this problem. Any ideas? Thanks, -- valerie@savina.com -- -- Valerie Lambert - valerie@veritas.com - VERITAS Software From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23298; Tue, 2 Jul 96 11:35:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26451; Tue, 2 Jul 96 11:31:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26445; Tue, 2 Jul 96 11:31:50 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01877; Tue, 2 Jul 96 11:31:31 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:31:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Stucki Cc: John Andrea , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: upgrade pine.conf too ? (and then...) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What did you set "user-domain=" to in your pine.conf file?? -teg On Tue, 2 Jul 1996, Stucki wrote: > Hi! > > > I just upgraded unix system pine from 3.91 to 3.94 (oooh, nice features). > > Should I also upgrade the /usr/local/pine.conf system defaults file ? > > Well, we updated about three weeks ago and NOW realized something is amiss > (everything is send with sender '@@' TWO 'AT' signs), > AND I updated the configs too. NOW the old Version behaves erratic too, > so it must be in the updated configs, so I'll have to get the configs > back from tape. > > SO, IF YOU UPDATE, ***SAVE*** the old progs AND configs !!! > > Just an idea, Stucki > > **v** ----v----------------------------------------------------------- > S * | Christoph von Stuckrad | \ > t / * | Dahlem | ...!unido!fub!leibniz!stucki| > u / * | Fachbereich Mathematik, EDV | Tel:+49 30 838-754{9|8} | > - - C | Freie Universitaet Berlin | Fax:+49 30 838-5913 | > k \ * | Arnimallee 2-6 | IRC: /nick stucki | > r \ * | D-14195 Berlin | PGP: not yet certified :-( | > a * | Germany | ask for key by mail / > **d** ----^----------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26376; Tue, 2 Jul 96 12:13:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13417; Tue, 2 Jul 96 12:08:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13411; Tue, 2 Jul 96 12:08:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubAnB-00038BC; Tue, 2 Jul 96 12:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "MAS Inc." Subject: decoding urlencoded text and mailcap Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:47:40 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Recently my curiousity was piqued by a posting about setting up an application to decode urlencoded text. I have written a simple urldecoder that takes the stdin and spits out decoded text. It works great when I pipe to it in pine. What I was hoping is that I could setup a mailcap entry that would tell pine to pipe through urldecode automatically when it sees a certain mime type. I tried application/x-www-form-urlencode; urldecode but it didn't work. Also tried cat %s | urldecode. I'm really guessing here; there is so little documentation that says "this means that", it's mostly examples. Anyway, any ideas on how I could get this to work? Thanks. You can reply to knute@teleport via e-mail if you wish. ---MAS Inc. email: masi@teleport.com 15050 SW Koll Parkway, Suite C web: http://www.teleport.com/~masi Beaverton, OR 97006 phone: (503) 641-6200 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01733; Tue, 2 Jul 96 13:32:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00291; Tue, 2 Jul 96 13:30:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00285; Tue, 2 Jul 96 13:30:03 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27129; Tue, 2 Jul 96 13:30:02 -0700 X-Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for dlm+postmaster; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 20:22:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10237; Sun, 30 Jun 96 20:22:43 -0700 X-Received: from paw.montana.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28849; Sun, 30 Jun 96 20:22:42 -0700 X-Received: from uncle.montana.com (uncle [199.2.139.29]) by paw.montana.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA06059 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 21:16:52 -0600 (MDT) X-Received: from freemail ([206.230.43.70]) by uncle.montana.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA19002 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 21:20:51 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199606302125024.FreeMail.com> To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scottk Date: Sun 30 Jun 1996 22:57:01 EDT Reply-To: scottk X-Mailer: FreeMail SMTP Gateway v2.0 Rev 6e (W16) X-Webpage: http://www.FreeMail.com Subject: RE: How do I untar the source code? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Li Tao ltao@jell.fullerton.edu Wrote: Does anyone know how I can untar the source code for pine? I can't understand the manual pages they have. (Someone already told me how to build it. Now I need to know how to untar it.) Thank you. ------------- You can also try zcat < filename.Z> | tar -xvf - if you don't have the gnu utilities. kls From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03634; Tue, 2 Jul 96 14:10:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01193; Tue, 2 Jul 96 14:04:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nexus.chapman.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01187; Tue, 2 Jul 96 14:04:27 -0700 Received: by nexus.chapman.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA11194; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:03:57 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:03:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Luke Stedman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: I'm stuck in read only mode! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I can't reply to any of my new messages. My inbox is stuck in read only mode. What can I do? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04203; Tue, 2 Jul 96 14:20:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17148; Tue, 2 Jul 96 14:17:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.med.cornell.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17142; Tue, 2 Jul 96 14:17:45 -0700 Received: from [140.251.195.145] (mac001675.med.cornell.edu [140.251.195.145]) by mail.med.cornell.edu (8.7.3/8.7/vrb1.0) with SMTP id RAA25214 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:17:40 -0400 Message-Id: <199607022117.RAA25214@mail.med.cornell.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:20:55 -0400 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: apcosta@mail.med.cornell.edu (Tony Costa) Subject: subscribe subscribe pine-info apcosta@mail.med.cornell.edu --------------------------------------------------------- Tony Costa Info Svcs Team Leader The New York Hospital apcosta@mail.med.cornell.edu tcosta@nyh.med.cornell.edu CIS 72360,3327 Phone 212-746-4782 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05774; Tue, 2 Jul 96 14:56:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02541; Tue, 2 Jul 96 14:54:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02535; Tue, 2 Jul 96 14:54:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubDO4-00038BC; Tue, 2 Jul 96 14:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: timr@crl.com (Tim Rice) Subject: Re: Where to find default .pinerc? Date: 2 Jul 1996 14:40:27 -0700 Message-Id: <4rc50b$7u2@crl5.crl.com> References: <4r93o7$s54@news.ios.com> Bryan H. (wriite@soho.ios.com) wrote: : My .pinerc was corrupted, so I deleted it. Where might I find a : default-set copy, so that I could insert it into my system? : Thanks, : Bryan Run pine again, it will create a new one with defaults. -- ----- Tim Rice Multitalents 707 887-1469 tim@trr.metro.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07333; Tue, 2 Jul 96 15:26:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18959; Tue, 2 Jul 96 15:24:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18953; Tue, 2 Jul 96 15:24:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubDp1-00038TC; Tue, 2 Jul 96 15:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: timr@crl.com (Tim Rice) Subject: Re: Pine icon/icon label in an XTerm Date: 2 Jul 1996 14:05:03 -0700 Message-Id: <4rc2tv$7io@crl5.crl.com> References: <4qmeqv$2cg@jupiter.fcrd.gov.uk> Tim Porter (porter@fcrd.gov.uk) wrote: : I'm running Pine 3.94 on a Sun SPARC system with SunOS 4.1.3. : I have enabled enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon in the Pine setup. : Can anyone please help me, I have two questions: : 1). I've noticed that Pine resets the Icon label to 'pine' in the : minimised XTerm. However, when I exit Pine, the label continues to say : 'pine' rather than reverting back to 'xterm'. Is this a bug, or is there : some way of telling Pine to reset the icon label on exiting?? For what it's worth, I get the same results on UnixWare and SCO OSE 3.0 : 2). I've asked this before, but no-one responded: How can I change the : icon for pine? I have downloaded a .xbm file, but I don't know how to make : it the default icon. : Thanks in advance, : Tim Porter. : -- : ------------------------------------------------------------------- : Tim Porter t.porter@fcrd.gov.uk : Forestry Commission, Research Division : ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ----- Tim Rice Multitalents 707 887-1469 tim@trr.metro.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10542; Tue, 2 Jul 96 16:21:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04788; Tue, 2 Jul 96 16:16:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from quasar.voicenet.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04780; Tue, 2 Jul 96 16:16:33 -0700 Received: from localhost (domreg@localhost) by quasar.voicenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA29770 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:16:25 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:16:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Voicenet Domain Registration X-Sender: domreg@quasar To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug (ID ER0QK): Forwarding of messages seems to add extra chars. (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1430415249-1826716476-836348241=:24435" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1430415249-1826716476-836348241=:24435 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Hi Pine People, Since this is a Cc: of my bug report, I'm assuming you can pull up any of the necessary information on my local configuration from the attachements above. ObInfo: Sun Sparc 2, SunOS 4.1.4, Pine 3.94, gcc 2.7.2, sendmail 8.6.11 (if I recall correctly on the sendmail version). The problem is that when I forward messages, extra characters are added to the message, _after_ the filter (if any) and _after_ the message is saved to the sent-mail folder. When I forward the attached message, as an example (with or without a filter), extra periods seem to show up randomly in the body of the message. Please tell me if you are able to reproduce this error or need more information (or perhaps I'm simply going crazy). Thanks. Ivan Kohler, VoiceNet Staff VoiceNet Domain Registration domreg@voicenet.com --1430415249-1826716476-836348241=:24435 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data Pine built Thu Jun 20 16:34:21 EDT 1996 on host: omni2 ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = domreg, full = Voicenet Domain Registration home = /home/domreg home_dir= /home/domreg hostname= quasar localdom= quasar userdom= voicenet.com maildom= voicenet.com cur_cntxt= mail/[] cur_fldr= sent-mail actual mbox= /home/domreg/mail/sent-mail msgmap: tot=267, cur=262, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival actual inbox= /usr/spool/mail/domreg inbox map: tot=23, cur=23, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival term type=xterm, ttyname=/dev/ttyp1, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Voicenet Domain Registration user-id : domreg user-domain : voicenet.com inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : mail/[] default-fcc : sent-mail default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail read-message-folder : read-mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook feature-list : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : expanded-view-of-folders : signature-at-bottom : save-will-advance saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last composer-wrap-column : 74 reply-indent-string : > empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 96.7 last-version-used : 3.94 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu suggest-fullname : Pine Developers suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu local-fullname : Local Support local-address : postmaster kblock-passwd-count : 1 display-filters : _LEADING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----")_ ~/pgp-check sending-filters : /home/domreg/pgp-sign viewer-overlap : 2 scroll-margin : 0 status-message-delay : 0 mail-check-interval : 150 elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/home/domreg/.pinerc) ======= user-domain : voicenet.com read-message-folder : read-mail feature-list : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : expanded-view-of-folders : signature-at-bottom : save-will-advance last-time-prune-ques : 96.7 last-version-used : 3.94 display-filters : _LEADING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----")_ ~/pgp-check sending-filters : ~/pgp-sign ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last composer-wrap-column : 74 reply-indent-string : > empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu suggest-fullname : Pine Developers suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu local-fullname : Local Support local-address : postmaster kblock-passwd-count : 1 viewer-overlap : 2 scroll-margin : 0 status-message-delay : 0 mail-check-interval : 150 elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-allow-talk no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-auto-zoom-after-select no-auto-unzoom-after-apply no-compose-cut-from-cursor no-compose-maps-delete-key-to-ctrl-d no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-send-offers-first-filter no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-default-in-bug-report no-disable-busy-alarm no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-keymenu no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-disable-signature-edit-cmd no-enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation no-enable-8bit-nntp-posting enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-background-sending enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-cruise-mode no-enable-cruise-mode-delete no-enable-dot-files no-enable-dot-folders enable-flag-cmd no-enable-flag-screen-implicitly enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-goto-in-file-browser no-enable-incoming-folders enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-mouse-in-xterm no-enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon enable-suspend enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-enable-verbose-smtp-posting no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-distribution-lists expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-fcc-on-bounce no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-pass-control-characters-as-is no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt no-print-includes-from-line no-print-index-enabled no-print-formfeed-between-messages no-quell-dead-letter-on-cancel no-quell-lock-failure-warnings no-quell-status-message-beeping no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-reply-always-uses-reply-to no-save-aggregates-copy-sequence no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-cursor no-show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-single-column-folder-list no-tab-visits-next-new-message-only no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys no-use-sender-not-x-sender no-use-subshell-for-suspend ========== Latest keystrokes ========== ^C (0x0003) i (0x0069) l (0x006c) e (0x0065) c (0x0063) l (0x006c) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) C (0x0043) RETURN (0x000d) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) RETURN (0x000d) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) i (0x0069) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) l (0x006c) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) D (0x0044) RETURN (0x000d) RETURN (0x000d) f (0x0066) ^N (0x000e) RETURN (0x000d) l (0x006c) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) C (0x0043) RETURN (0x000d) e (0x0065) d (0x0064) e (0x0065) l (0x006c) m (0x006d) e (0x0065) RETURN (0x000d) y (0x0079) o (0x006f) ^Z (0x001a) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) | (0x007c) ^C (0x0003) RETURN (0x000d) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) f (0x0066) RETURN (0x000d) b (0x0062) ^C (0x0003) ? (0x003f) b (0x0062) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) RETURN (0x000d) --1430415249-1826716476-836348241=:24435 Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-ID: Content-Description: Problem Message (262 of 267) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 18:13:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Voicenet Domain Registration X-Sender: domreg@quasar To: domreg@voicenet.com Subject: NEW DOMAIN Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII [ URL ftp://rs.internic.net/templates/domain-template.txt ] [ 5/96 ] ******************* Please DO NOT REMOVE Version Number ******************** Domain Version Number: 3.0 **************** Please see attached detailed instructions ***************** ******** Only for registrations under ROOT, COM, ORG, NET, EDU, GOV ******** Authorization 0a. (N)ew (M)odify (D)elete....: 0b. Auth Scheme................:PGP 0c. Auth Info..................: 1. Purpose/Description........: 2. Complete Domain Name.......: Organization Using Domain Name 3a. Organization Name..........: 3b. 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Fax Number.................: 6l. E-Mailbox..................: Primary Name Server 7a. Primary Server Hostname....:ns1.voicenet.com 7b. Primary Server Netaddress..:207.103.0.2 Secondary Name Server(s) 8a. Secondary Server Hostname..:ns2.voicenet.com 8b. Secondary Server Netaddress:207.103.11.9 Invoice Delivery 9. (E)mail (P)ostal...........: An initial charge of $100.00 USD will be made to register the Domain name. This charge covers any updates required during the first two (2) years. The Billing Contact listed in Section 6 will be invoiced within ten (10) days of Domain name registration. For detailed information on billing, see: ftp://rs.internic.net/billing/billing-procedures.txt http://rs.internic.net/guardian/ The party requesting registration of this name certifies that, to her/his knowledge, the use of this name does not violate trademark or other statutes. 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VoiceNet Domain Registration domreg@voicenet.com --1430415249-1826716476-836348241=:24435-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13975; Tue, 2 Jul 96 17:22:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06625; Tue, 2 Jul 96 17:19:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06619; Tue, 2 Jul 96 17:19:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubFcp-00038BC; Tue, 2 Jul 96 17:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: future mkpgp exploits filters? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:12:09 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I want mkpgp to exploit all of the new filtering features of Pine. That is, I want it to have all of its present functionality when used as the various filters. To do so will require that the filtering mechanism be fully interactive. Can someone tell me how to make these filters interactive? Thanks. Please Cc: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.b, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMdl0MeBu0383Om6dAQHbuwP8CgNuV2CTyHG1bscbTLedTedvzgXaXFC9 bWxtuSw7kralcw2TuHiNEq8HCSHADlTMticn1EV9OYlKv4eDF1HeHrSgV3H1vGTQ YNHsz/WSJ293IkKM9moduBXTrmUz5dGHUM4SaVWv685yejPYmhwnHEpcwb+Y3zrW etJY5UmaMyk= =fKF0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka 49860926614586AF "The strongest reason for the people to retain their 54105BA338FBF0FB right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14877; Tue, 2 Jul 96 17:46:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22558; Tue, 2 Jul 96 17:44:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22552; Tue, 2 Jul 96 17:44:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubG2r-00038TC; Tue, 2 Jul 96 17:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Filter Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 20:40:42 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 2 Jul 1996, Myron Wayne Jones wrote: > I use the elm filter feature with pine to filter incomming e-mail into > several different folders. > > My problem is that I cannot tell when I have new mail because it is > automatically moved from my INBOX to the folders I have specified. > > Is there a way for me to have pine indicate that new mail has been > delivered and in to what folder it was placed?? I am not absolutely certain on this due to changes that may have been made in the recent new versions of Pine, but I think that when you filter incoming mail into various folders, you get a notification only if you just so happen to have a particular folder open at the time a new message is placed into it. One thing I have that I make freely available may help some. I have a Un*x shell script which in turn calls a Perl script to sniff in all of the incoming mail folders I have defined and display a count of how many messages are in each one by name. In Un*x Pine (unless it has been turned off) you can just Ctrl-Z to suspend Pine, run the script to check your mail folders, and then 'fg' to re-enter Pine. You can get the scripts by browsing my WWW home page. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15269; Tue, 2 Jul 96 17:56:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07296; Tue, 2 Jul 96 17:54:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07287; Tue, 2 Jul 96 17:54:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubGBO-00038BC; Tue, 2 Jul 96 17:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: Reading uuencoded attachments Date: 2 Jul 1996 19:52:34 GMT Message-Id: <4rbum2$2ef@babbage.ece.uc.edu> References: <4qukmr$npr@cherokee.fore.com> In article , bgarcia@fore.com ("Brad M. Garcia") writes: >On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > >> Do you know what mailer is attempting to perpetrate this evil? > >Oh yes. Eudora 2.1.1 for Windows. >What's even worse was that it was originally attempting to mail the >file by BINHEXing it first!!!! > >It's a stupid little text file! Why does it feel the need to do >*anything* to it?! It is the Eudora user's fault. He/she must have configured Eudora improperly. When I attach a text file, in Eudora 1.5.x, the text is not encoded, and I had no trouble reading it in Pine as attachment. A likely cause of Eudora's misbehavior may be the filename extention. I normally name my text files xxx.txt. If you name it xxx.doc, it is very likely for Eudora to do the wrong things. Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu for my PGP pub. key= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19933; Tue, 2 Jul 96 21:41:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10172; Tue, 2 Jul 96 21:40:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10166; Tue, 2 Jul 96 21:40:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubJh5-00038BC; Tue, 2 Jul 96 21:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Yap Remailer Subject: Re: Expunge Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607030015.RAA05136@yap.pactitle.com> During an acute PMS attack Susan Scanlon (EWH) wrote: ulb- Date: 1 Jul 1996 17:49:32 -0700 ulb- From: "Susan Scanlon (EWH)" ulb- Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine ulb- Subject: Expunge??? ulb- ulb- When the confirmation for delete of messages comes back to me, it ulb- uses the word "EXPUNGE" ! It is not immediately apparent just what will ulb- happen if I answer "yes" or "no" to this request. Do you know what ulb- "expunge" means. ^ (Shouldn't this end in a question mark?) Yes! (It only requires the use of a dictionary to attain such vast wisdom: ex-punge (ik-spunj') verb To strike out; erase. ex-punged, ex-pung-ing, ex-pung-es [Latin expungere] ex-pung'er noun) ulb- And can you tell me what the "yes" and "no" answers will ulb- do? Well let's see here... I hit "d" to delete a message, and the darn thing doesn't go away. Hmmm, Pine must strike out or erase the message later; I must have only MARKED THE MESSAGE FOR DELETION. This wisdom only requires that we hit the "?" when the "D Delete" menu item is displayed. Eg., Gazing at the screen we observe: ? Help M Main Menu P PrevMsg - PrevPage D Delete R Reply O OTHER CMDS V [ViewMsg] N NextMsg Spc NextPage U Undelete F Forward After exercising the initiative to MERELY RAISE TWO FINGERS TO HIT THE FUCKING "?" KEY WE SEE: FOLDER INDEX COMMANDS Navigating the List of Messages Operations on the Current Message ------------------------------- --------------------------------- P Move to the previous message V View Y Print N Move to the next message R Reply to message F Forward - Show previous screen of messages D Mark for deletion BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A GODDAMNED "?" IS FOR DO YOU? (See above) ulb- And can you change that message so that I don't have to curse you every ulb- time I can't remember whether "expunge" means "to take out" or "get rid ulb- of" or "destroy" ...... !?! ulb- CAN YOU KEEP A FUCKING DICTIONARY NEARBY SO YOU DON'T EMBARRASS YOURSELF AND EVERYONE ELSE @ nova.edmonds.wednet.edu? JESUS-FUCKING-CHRIST WHERE IS EDUCATION ON THIS PLANET GOING? ulb- Whoever wrote that message should have to answer this note --- and all ulb- other hate mail over any other confusions your system has intentionally ulb- built in. EACH PERSON ON THE PLANET THAT USES PINE SHOULD SEND YOU A MESSAGE REMINDING YOU WHAT AN UNENDURABLY LAZY BITCH YOU ARE! SUGGESTIONS FOR AN UNENDURABLY LAZY BITCH: 1) READ THE FUCKING (ONLINE!) MANUAL! 2a) LEARN TO USE A FUCKING DICTIONARY! 2b) AUGMENT YOUR WOEFULLY INADEQUATE VOCABULARY! 3) GROW ANOTHER GODDAMNED NEURON TO RUB ON THE DEFECTIVE ONE YOU HAVE! 4) USE UNIX MAIL UNTIL YOU COME BACK SNIVELING AND WEEPING FOR BEAUTIFUL PINE INTERFACE TO INTERNET MAIL! 5) TAKE A MOTHERFUCKING PILL! 6) BEG FORGIVENESS FROM YOUR GENETICALLY SUPERIORS FOR YOUR WASTE OF VITAL OXYGEN! (If n = the number of people on the planet, that would require n - 1 beggings.) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (You know, 5 isn't a bad idea; I feel much better after my medication.) Please ignore the preceding diatribe.... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22898; Wed, 3 Jul 96 00:02:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27371; Tue, 2 Jul 96 23:55:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27365; Tue, 2 Jul 96 23:55:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubLpR-00038BC; Tue, 2 Jul 96 23:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: netrom@find2.dbc.bib.dk (Morten Holmqvist) Subject: How to prevent: Session now Read-Only Date: 28 Jun 96 11:17:09 GMT Message-Id: Is it possible to disable the steal-folder feature, which happens when one (by accident?) are running two pine-sessions. My problem is that the second pine-session forces the first pine-session to enter read-only mode, and thereby cancels all modifications done to that folder. I would preferer that the second pine-session were started in read-only mode instead of stealing the folder from the first. Have I overlooked a 'feature'-variable which controls that feature? Does anyone have a hack which prevents the theft? (Or can someone point me to the files which controls it) Morten... -- Name: Morten Holmqvist |\ v /| Danish Library Centre Email: netrom@find2.dbc.bib.dk || || Tempovej 7-11 Phone: (+45) 44 86 78 73 ||_-.-_|| DK-2750 Ballerup Fax: (+45) 44 86 78 94 |,--_--.| Denmark From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23292; Wed, 3 Jul 96 00:15:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12090; Wed, 3 Jul 96 00:10:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12084; Wed, 3 Jul 96 00:10:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubM48-00038BC; Wed, 3 Jul 96 00:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bovine Remailer Subject: Re: Expunge Date: Tue, 2 Jul 96 20:05:03 EDT Message-Id: <9607030005.AA17220@cow.net> During an acute PMS attack Susan Scanlon (EWH) wrote: ulb- Date: 1 Jul 1996 17:49:32 -0700 ulb- From: "Susan Scanlon (EWH)" ulb- Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine ulb- Subject: Expunge??? ulb- ulb- When the confirmation for delete of messages comes back to me, it ulb- uses the word "EXPUNGE" ! It is not immediately apparent just what will ulb- happen if I answer "yes" or "no" to this request. Do you know what ulb- "expunge" means. ^ (Shouldn't this end in a question mark?) Yes! (It only requires the use of a dictionary to attain such vast wisdom: ex-punge (ik-spunj') verb To strike out; erase. ex-punged, ex-pung-ing, ex-pung-es [Latin expungere] ex-pung'er noun) ulb- And can you tell me what the "yes" and "no" answers will ulb- do? Well let's see here... I hit "d" to delete a message, and the darn thing doesn't go away. Hmmm, Pine must strike out or erase the message later; I must have only MARKED THE MESSAGE FOR DELETION. This wisdom only requires that we hit the "?" when the "D Delete" menu item is displayed. Eg., Gazing at the screen we observe: ? Help M Main Menu P PrevMsg - PrevPage D Delete R Reply O OTHER CMDS V [ViewMsg] N NextMsg Spc NextPage U Undelete F Forward After exercising the initiative to MERELY RAISE TWO FINGERS TO HIT THE FUCKING "?" KEY WE SEE: FOLDER INDEX COMMANDS Navigating the List of Messages Operations on the Current Message ------------------------------- --------------------------------- P Move to the previous message V View Y Print N Move to the next message R Reply to message F Forward - Show previous screen of messages D Mark for deletion BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A GODDAMNED "?" IS FOR DO YOU? (See above) ulb- And can you change that message so that I don't have to curse you every ulb- time I can't remember whether "expunge" means "to take out" or "get rid ulb- of" or "destroy" ...... !?! ulb- CAN YOU KEEP A FUCKING DICTIONARY NEARBY SO YOU DON'T EMBARRASS YOURSELF AND EVERYONE ELSE @ nova.edmonds.wednet.edu? JESUS-FUCKING-CHRIST WHERE IS EDUCATION ON THIS PLANET GOING? ulb- Whoever wrote that message should have to answer this note --- and all ulb- other hate mail over any other confusions your system has intentionally ulb- built in. EACH PERSON ON THE PLANET THAT USES PINE SHOULD SEND YOU A MESSAGE REMINDING YOU WHAT AN UNENDURABLY LAZY BITCH YOU ARE! SUGGESTIONS FOR AN UNENDURABLY LAZY BITCH: 1) READ THE FUCKING (ONLINE!) MANUAL! 2a) LEARN TO USE A FUCKING DICTIONARY! 2b) AUGMENT YOUR WOEFULLY INADEQUATE VOCABULARY! 3) GROW ANOTHER GODDAMNED NEURON TO RUB ON THE DEFECTIVE ONE YOU HAVE! 4) USE UNIX MAIL UNTIL YOU COME BACK SNIVELING AND WEEPING FOR BEAUTIFUL PINE INTERFACE TO INTERNET MAIL! 5) TAKE A MOTHERFUCKING PILL! 6) BEG FORGIVENESS FROM YOUR GENETICALLY SUPERIORS FOR YOUR WASTE OF VITAL OXYGEN! (If n = the number of people on the planet, that would require n - 1 beggings.) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (You know, 5 isn't a bad idea; I feel much better after my medication.) Please ignore the preceding diatribe.... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24142; Wed, 3 Jul 96 00:42:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27897; Wed, 3 Jul 96 00:35:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27885; Wed, 3 Jul 96 00:35:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubMOe-00038BC; Wed, 3 Jul 96 00:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bun Subject: UUDECODE Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:59:27 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi there! Which version of Pine supports both uudecode and MIME? TIA. +--------------------------+ | Bun Chiu | | MIS Department | | Sager Electronics | | mailto:bun@sager.com | | http://www.sager.com | +--------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25044; Wed, 3 Jul 96 01:04:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12709; Wed, 3 Jul 96 00:59:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12703; Wed, 3 Jul 96 00:59:12 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:56:50 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id IAA03712; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:58:28 +0100 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:58:28 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Morten Holmqvist Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to prevent: Session now Read-Only In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII One way would be to include the "-o" option on the command line you use to start Pine. This forces the first-opened folder (usually the IBOX unless you specify a different folder using the -f option) to be opened read-only. There is no specific feature to say "if I'm the second concurrent IMAP client session then don't grab write-control". Indeed I'm not sure it would even be possible to do so with the IMAP spec: I know it is possible to open a folder read-only, and to open a folder read-write (grabbing the lock of any other IMAP session for that folder), but I don't recall a "test if anyone else has this folder write-locked" command. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 28 Jun 1996, Morten Holmqvist wrote: > Is it possible to disable the steal-folder feature, which happens > when one (by accident?) are running two pine-sessions. > > My problem is that the second pine-session forces the > first pine-session to enter read-only mode, and thereby > cancels all modifications done to that folder. > > I would preferer that the second pine-session were started > in read-only mode instead of stealing the folder from the first. > > Have I overlooked a 'feature'-variable which controls that feature? > > Does anyone have a hack which prevents the theft? (Or can someone > point me to the files which controls it) > > Morten... > -- > Name: Morten Holmqvist |\ v /| Danish Library Centre > Email: netrom@find2.dbc.bib.dk || || Tempovej 7-11 > Phone: (+45) 44 86 78 73 ||_-.-_|| DK-2750 Ballerup > Fax: (+45) 44 86 78 94 |,--_--.| Denmark > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27419; Wed, 3 Jul 96 01:39:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13237; Wed, 3 Jul 96 01:30:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13231; Wed, 3 Jul 96 01:30:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubNGZ-00038BC; Wed, 3 Jul 96 01:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "A. Harris" Subject: E-mail provider Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:42:14 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Attention! Do any of you know where I can find an inexpensive e-mail provider that does NOT provide access to the internet. The provider needs to be located in the Seattle area(206 area code). Thanks, Andy From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27615; Wed, 3 Jul 96 01:42:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28822; Wed, 3 Jul 96 01:35:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28816; Wed, 3 Jul 96 01:35:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubNMX-00038BC; Wed, 3 Jul 96 01:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jeff nunner Subject: New news? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 22:27:07 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm using 3.91 and I was wondering if there's a way I can configure Pine so that when I log in and open my folder lidt, it will only show me newsgroups that have new posts in them... when I used to use whatever it was I was using (I think it's just regular old Kermit/UseNet) I had typed NEWS> set/directory=new For now, I'm opening the first newsgroup and TABbing to the next new message, which means after I read my newsgroups, I have to Delete and eXclude them, which is annoying if I want to go back to an old post... email me or post, because I just figured out my server *does* have this group (I posted like 10 minuted before this via the WWW, and I'm not sure if it got here or not) TIA!! Jeff jnunner@drew.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05549; Wed, 3 Jul 96 05:23:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16597; Wed, 3 Jul 96 05:21:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from find2.dbc.bib.dk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16591; Wed, 3 Jul 96 05:20:58 -0700 Received: from groucho.dbc.bib.dk (804400080@groucho.dbc.bib.dk [130.228.131.4]) by find2.dbc.bib.dk (8.6.4/8.6) with SMTP id OAA15883; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:21:01 +0200 Received: from localhost by groucho.dbc.bib.dk (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA99250; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:20:41 +0200 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:20:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Morten Holmqvist To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to prevent: Session now Read-Only In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: Thank you for pointing me in the 'imap' direction. I removed the block around the kill(,SIGUSR2) in imap/ANSI/c-client/bezerk.c:bezerk_open() and in mmdf.c:mmdf_open(), and now the second pine never tries to 'steal' the folder, but instead opens it in read-only mode. Morten... > One way would be to include the "-o" option on the command line you use to > start Pine. This forces the first-opened folder (usually the IBOX unless > you specify a different folder using the -f option) to be opened > read-only. > > There is no specific feature to say "if I'm the second concurrent IMAP > client session then don't grab write-control". Indeed I'm not sure it > would even be possible to do so with the IMAP spec: I know it is possible > to open a folder read-only, and to open a folder read-write (grabbing the > lock of any other IMAP session for that folder), but I don't recall a > "test if anyone else has this folder write-locked" command. > > Cheers, > > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > On 28 Jun 1996, Morten Holmqvist wrote: > > > Is it possible to disable the steal-folder feature, which happens > > when one (by accident?) are running two pine-sessions. > > > > My problem is that the second pine-session forces the > > first pine-session to enter read-only mode, and thereby > > cancels all modifications done to that folder. > > > > I would preferer that the second pine-session were started > > in read-only mode instead of stealing the folder from the first. > > > > Have I overlooked a 'feature'-variable which controls that feature? > > > > Does anyone have a hack which prevents the theft? (Or can someone > > point me to the files which controls it) > > > > Morten... > > -- > > Name: Morten Holmqvist |\ v /| Danish Library Centre > > Email: netrom@find2.dbc.bib.dk || || Tempovej 7-11 > > Phone: (+45) 44 86 78 73 ||_-.-_|| DK-2750 Ballerup > > Fax: (+45) 44 86 78 94 |,--_--.| Denmark > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06797; Wed, 3 Jul 96 06:10:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17183; Wed, 3 Jul 96 06:05:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from intfw.bear.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17175; Wed, 3 Jul 96 06:05:23 -0700 Received: by intfw.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15785; Wed, 3 Jul 96 09:05:16 EDT Received: from fastbear(165.168.74.3) by intfw via smap (V1.3) id sma015401; Wed Jul 3 09:00:40 1996 Received: from ursa2.bear.com by fastbear.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/1.0 AMR 12/15/94) id AA25941; Wed, 3 Jul 96 09:19:04 EDT Received: from whip_xfr.bear.com (whip-xfr) by ursa2.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/AMR+DJMS(2)) id AA00931; Wed, 3 Jul 96 09:02:10 EDT Received: from warlock.bsnet by whip_xfr.bear.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA19891; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:00:42 -0400 Received: from tiberius.bsnet by warlock.bsnet (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA16420; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:00:41 -0400 Received: from localhost by tiberius.bsnet (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA01994; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:00:47 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:00:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard G. Roberto" X-Sender: richr@tiberius Reply-To: richr@bear.com To: Morten Holmqvist Cc: Mike Brudenell , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to prevent: Session now Read-Only In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! I thought I remember reading something on IMAP that implied the functionality Morten is seeking. Is there something with IMAP4 maybe that handles multiple simultaneous client sessions without running into lock contention? Maybe the imapd process handling the locking on behalf of the clients? This would be _very_ useful. One of my biggest problems with remote access is a user stealing a lock from another session and coming in the next day and not being able to reclaim the lock on the original session. Thanks On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Morten Holmqvist wrote: > On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > Thank you for pointing me in the 'imap' direction. > I removed the block around the kill(,SIGUSR2) in > imap/ANSI/c-client/bezerk.c:bezerk_open() and in mmdf.c:mmdf_open(), > and now the second pine never tries to 'steal' the folder, but instead > opens it in read-only mode. > > Morten... > > > One way would be to include the "-o" option on the command line you use to > > start Pine. This forces the first-opened folder (usually the IBOX unless > > you specify a different folder using the -f option) to be opened > > read-only. > > > > There is no specific feature to say "if I'm the second concurrent IMAP > > client session then don't grab write-control". Indeed I'm not sure it > > would even be possible to do so with the IMAP spec: I know it is possible > > to open a folder read-only, and to open a folder read-write (grabbing the > > lock of any other IMAP session for that folder), but I don't recall a > > "test if anyone else has this folder write-locked" command. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Mike Brudenell ... stuff deleted Richard G. Roberto richr@bear.com 201-739-2886 - whippany, nj -- ******************************************************************************* Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. ******************************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07176; Wed, 3 Jul 96 06:26:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17435; Wed, 3 Jul 96 06:21:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17429; Wed, 3 Jul 96 06:21:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubRq7-00038BC; Wed, 3 Jul 96 06:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dave@storm.hq.nasa.gov (david stern) Subject: pine filtering (not?) Date: 3 Jul 1996 12:25:03 GMT Message-Id: <4rdoqv$7q7@centauri.hq.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII I've set up filtering to move messages from various listservs to certain folders. This all seems to work well but now my INBOX is messed up. I've got it to work by pointing my inbox to ~/EMERGENCY_MBOX but this is obviously not correct. What should my inbox be? default and /usr/spool/mail don't work. Thanks Dave From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07353; Wed, 3 Jul 96 06:34:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17573; Wed, 3 Jul 96 06:30:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17567; Wed, 3 Jul 96 06:30:42 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:27:56 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id OAA25597; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:29:40 +0100 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:29:40 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Morten Holmqvist Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to prevent: Session now Read-Only In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII OK.... but just be warned that the general idea of Pine's normal behaviour is that if you leave a session in Pine and later start it again elsewhere (another office, dialling in from home, etc) it presenets you with a usable (read/write) session rather than being locked into a read-only session. As such your changes aren't really ideal in a general environment (but presumably are to you with your particular needs). Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Morten Holmqvist wrote: > On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > Thank you for pointing me in the 'imap' direction. > I removed the block around the kill(,SIGUSR2) in > imap/ANSI/c-client/bezerk.c:bezerk_open() and in mmdf.c:mmdf_open(), > and now the second pine never tries to 'steal' the folder, but instead > opens it in read-only mode. > > Morten... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07710; Wed, 3 Jul 96 06:48:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17784; Wed, 3 Jul 96 06:45:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17778; Wed, 3 Jul 96 06:45:31 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08173; Wed, 3 Jul 96 06:44:15 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 06:44:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Richard G. Roberto" Cc: Morten Holmqvist , Mike Brudenell , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to prevent: Session now Read-Only In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Richard, The locking behavior is a function of the mailbox format. If you configure your system to use the so-called "Tenex" format, you can have multiple sessions that can update flags and see new mail. The one thing you can't do is Expunge when there is more than one session. An experimental mailbox format is under development that may allow for simultaneous expunges as well. Also, I believe CMU's Cyrus IMAP server already permits concurrent sessions with full access. -teg On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Richard G. Roberto wrote: > Hi! > > I thought I remember reading something on IMAP that implied the > functionality Morten is seeking. Is there something with IMAP4 maybe that > handles multiple simultaneous client sessions without running into lock > contention? Maybe the imapd process handling the locking on behalf of the > clients? This would be _very_ useful. One of my biggest problems with > remote access is a user stealing a lock from another session and coming in > the next day and not being able to reclaim the lock on the original > session. > > Thanks > > On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Morten Holmqvist wrote: > > > On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > > Thank you for pointing me in the 'imap' direction. > > I removed the block around the kill(,SIGUSR2) in > > imap/ANSI/c-client/bezerk.c:bezerk_open() and in mmdf.c:mmdf_open(), > > and now the second pine never tries to 'steal' the folder, but instead > > opens it in read-only mode. > > > > Morten... > > > > > One way would be to include the "-o" option on the command line you use to > > > start Pine. This forces the first-opened folder (usually the IBOX unless > > > you specify a different folder using the -f option) to be opened > > > read-only. > > > > > > There is no specific feature to say "if I'm the second concurrent IMAP > > > client session then don't grab write-control". Indeed I'm not sure it > > > would even be possible to do so with the IMAP spec: I know it is possible > > > to open a folder read-only, and to open a folder read-write (grabbing the > > > lock of any other IMAP session for that folder), but I don't recall a > > > "test if anyone else has this folder write-locked" command. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Mike Brudenell > > ... stuff deleted > > > Richard G. Roberto > richr@bear.com > 201-739-2886 - whippany, nj > > > -- > ******************************************************************************* > Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or > agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account > activity contained in this communication. > ******************************************************************************* > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10326; Wed, 3 Jul 96 08:06:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04710; Wed, 3 Jul 96 08:01:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04704; Wed, 3 Jul 96 08:01:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubTLy-00038BC; Wed, 3 Jul 96 07:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Re: Reading uuencoded attachments Message-Id: Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:40:52 -0600 References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 2 Jul 1996, Brad M. Garcia wrote: bmg> On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Terry Gray wrote: bmg> bmg> > Do you know what mailer is attempting to perpetrate this evil? bmg> bmg> Oh yes. Eudora 2.1.1 for Windows. bmg> What's even worse was that it was originally attempting to mail the bmg> file by BINHEXing it first!!!! bmg> bmg> It's a stupid little text file! Why does it feel the need to do bmg> *anything* to it?! bmg> bmg> Brad Garcia bmg> Try piping the message to this script (uuread): #!/bin/csh -f cd ~ ; sed "s/begin\ [1-7][1-7][1-7]/begin\ 600/g" > UU.tmp set fileName = `grep ^begin\ 600 < UU.tmp | awk '{print $3}'` uudecode UU.tmp ; rm UU.tmp ; cat $fileName ; rm $fileName It will write and delete two tmp files in your home directory (UU.tmp and encoded file name). -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka 49860926614586AF "The strongest reason for the people to retain their 54105BA338FBF0FB right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18691; Wed, 3 Jul 96 10:14:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23778; Wed, 3 Jul 96 10:06:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23772; Wed, 3 Jul 96 10:06:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubVLg-00038TC; Wed, 3 Jul 96 10:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: How to prevent: Session now Read-Only Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:46:20 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 3 Jul 1996, Richard G. Roberto wrote: > I thought I remember reading something on IMAP that implied the > functionality Morten is seeking. Is there something with IMAP4 maybe that > handles multiple simultaneous client sessions without running into lock > contention? Maybe the imapd process handling the locking on behalf of the > clients? This would be _very_ useful. One of my biggest problems with > remote access is a user stealing a lock from another session and coming in > the next day and not being able to reclaim the lock on the original > session. This has nothing to do with IMAP. IMAP is just as limited by the restrictions of the mail store as local access is limited by those restrictions. What is special about IMAP is that, unlike POP, it does not impose any additional restrictions of its own. The problem (did you read my other message about this?) is that the standard Unix mail format can not be handled by multiple simultaneous read/write agents in any sort of reasonable fashion. Simultaneous update involves some kind of update mode access, either a format that is ameniable to update mode (O_RDWR on UNIX) or a format which stores messages in separate files. The fix, therefore, is to use some other format of mail than the UNIX standard. This is Cyrus' "secret" to accomplishing this. This is also how you accomplish it in c-client. If you use Pine, please refer to the Pine technical notes about "tenex format" and how to convert to using it. This is the simplest of about half a dozen different alternative format options in existance, and it works with all versions of the software. [There are better choices today, but they only work with the latest imap-4 toolkit versions.] -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19285; Wed, 3 Jul 96 10:27:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09546; Wed, 3 Jul 96 10:21:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09540; Wed, 3 Jul 96 10:21:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubVZj-00038TC; Wed, 3 Jul 96 10:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: nice pgp and pine interface? Date: 3 Jul 1996 14:04:10 GMT Message-Id: <4rdukq$i6i@babbage.ece.uc.edu> References: <4rbst0$p9n@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> In-Reply-To: <4rbst0$p9n@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> In article <4rbst0$p9n@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu>, sbaillar@attila.stevens-tech.edu (Songkun Baillargeon) writes: >s there a nice PGP and Pine interface or do I have to keep saving and >blah blah blah??? This is an undocumented FAQ. If you can read articles 3 weeks back, you probably would not ask this question. Any way, I have a web page for setting up (Unix) Pine and PGP to do the chores (encrypt/decrypt/ clear-sign) on the flight: http://www.pharm.med.uc.edu/~yuan/pine_pgp.html I am not sure how to do PC-Pine with PGP. Sorry! Cheers! Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu for my PGP pub. key= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20953; Wed, 3 Jul 96 10:59:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10522; Wed, 3 Jul 96 10:54:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from h141-206-15-5.NCR.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10516; Wed, 3 Jul 96 10:54:47 -0700 Received: from hostsw7.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM by mailhost.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00396; Wed, 3 Jul 96 10:53:40 PDT Received: from localhost by hostsw7.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17834; Wed, 3 Jul 96 10:53:33 PDT Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 10:53:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Steven Feinholz X-Sender: sf3@hostsw7 Reply-To: Steven Feinholz To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII subscribe pine-info Steven Feinholz From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25501; Wed, 3 Jul 96 12:38:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28116; Wed, 3 Jul 96 12:36:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28110; Wed, 3 Jul 96 12:36:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubXfj-00038TC; Wed, 3 Jul 96 12:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gordo@sparky.nce.usace.army.mil (Gordon Larsen) Subject: Netscape and pine Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 21:35:55 GMT Message-Id: <4reeqo$l1t@sparky.nce.usace.army.mil> I would like to read my mail in a pine mailbox in Netscape. If possible, how is this done? Also, could this be done with a Lotus Ccmail box. Gordon Larsen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25616; Wed, 3 Jul 96 12:43:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13381; Wed, 3 Jul 96 12:41:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13375; Wed, 3 Jul 96 12:41:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubXjy-00038TC; Wed, 3 Jul 96 12:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: leich@papin.HRZ.Uni-Marburg.DE (Steffen Leich) Subject: Re: Pine Address Book to Netscape Date: 3 Jul 1996 17:47:14 GMT Message-Id: <4rebn2$4pl@surz03fi.HRZ.Uni-Marburg.DE> References: <4r3s5e$qmv@shellx.best.com> Hi, I wrote a converter for this kind of job. You can call it a "fast hack", it's ignoring most of the Comments given in the pine-addressbook. But anything else works fine (groups too). You can get it from http://mailer.wiwi.uni-marburg.de/p2n.gz Steffen Meyer Boswell Books Inc. (meyerbos@best.com) wrote: : Is there a way to take my Pine Address Book, and import it into Netscape : 2.0? : Usually I use Pine, but sometimes I am browsing in Netscape, and want to : send a message....but no access to my carefully compiled Pine Address : Book! : Also, is there a Netscape UseNet group like this one for Pine? I can't : find it, and that seems like a real surprise. : Many thanks, : Joe Luttrell -- _____________________________________________________ Steffen Leich Universitaet Marburg leich@mailer.uni-marburg.de leich@wiwi.uni-marburg.de http://www.wiwi.uni-marburg.de/perl.exe?scripts/sl.pl From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25918; Wed, 3 Jul 96 12:55:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28410; Wed, 3 Jul 96 12:51:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28404; Wed, 3 Jul 96 12:51:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubXus-00038WC; Wed, 3 Jul 96 12:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Latin-1 codepage for pc-dos Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 12:50:40 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Henrik Edlund wrote: > Someone wrote about a true latin-1 (ISO8859-1) codepage for ps-dos/ms-dos > available from a german site (?) a while ago. > Could that person (or someone else remebering it) send the url or whatever > to me, please. Browse my WWW home page for the direct link to the University of Erlangen. (If you don't have WWW access, email me.) The .CPI file has various ISO-8859-x code pages in addition to Latin-1. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00995; Wed, 3 Jul 96 14:26:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16114; Wed, 3 Jul 96 14:18:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16108; Wed, 3 Jul 96 14:18:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubZHX-00038TC; Wed, 3 Jul 96 14:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Pine problem with pgp In-Reply-To: schlumpf@fsinfo.cs.uni-sb.de's message of 1 Jul 1996 14: 37:36 GMT Message-Id: References: <4r8nrg$3m5@pf1.phil.uni-sb.de> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 17:47:50 GMT In article <4r8nrg$3m5@pf1.phil.uni-sb.de> schlumpf@fsinfo.cs.uni-sb.de (Pappa Schlumpf) writes: Unfortunately some of the guys here want to use elm. So I installed elm 2.4me+ which is able to pgp sign an encrypt. The problem is now, that this elm tries to use a defacto standard for mime encoded pgp mails. The header looks like this: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL19 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: application/pgp; format=text; x-action=sign Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do someone know how to fix this problem in pine, cause I don't want to patch elm, cause the others want to use this defacto standard, but I want to read my mails with pine. I use this procmail recipe to rewrite the Content-Type line. Note that both procmail and the formail utility bundled with it are required. # Handle MIME Application/PGP Content-Types by renaming :0 Hfhw * ^Content-Type:.*application/(x-pgp-message|pgp) | formail -i "Content-Type: text/plain" Hope it helps, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/435-2983 http://www.access.digex.net/%7Erobjen/dc-sage/bios/rick_troxel/ /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09041; Wed, 3 Jul 96 17:20:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21261; Wed, 3 Jul 96 17:16:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from frank.mtsu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21255; Wed, 3 Jul 96 17:16:50 -0700 Received: by frank.mtsu.edu (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA087009486; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 19:18:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 19:18:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Myron Wayne Jones To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Filter Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I use the elm filter feature with pine to filter incomming e-mail into several different folders. My problem is that I cannot tell when I have new mail because it is automatically moved from my INBOX to the folders I have specified. Is there a way for me to have pine indicate that new mail has been delivered and in to what folder it was placed?? - Myron Jones ---------------------------------------------------------------------- email: chem000c@frank.mtsu.edu homepage: http://www.mtsu.edu/~chem000c snail mail: MTSU Box D750, Murfreesboro, TN 37132 USA ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11969; Wed, 3 Jul 96 20:04:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08124; Wed, 3 Jul 96 20:02:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08118; Wed, 3 Jul 96 20:02:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubeeL-00038TC; Wed, 3 Jul 96 20:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: conrads@dolphin.neosoft.com (Conrad Sabatier) Subject: Re: Every Time I try to use 'COMPOSE MAIL" I get an ERROR HELP!!! Date: 29 Jun 1996 17:19:39 GMT Message-Id: <4r3ojb$ol5@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <243xxoEo/ExU091yn@freenet.hamilton.on.ca> In article , ??The Riddler?? wrote: >Ever time I Try to COMPOSE MAIL I get the error: > >"Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". >Exiting pine." I was getting this from time to time. Something having to do with the postponed box. Look in your home directory for the file .pine-interrupted-mail, and delete it (mine was zero bytes, and obviously was confusing pine). Conrad, *finally* learning *not* to use ^O as in pico :-) -- Conrad Sabatier -- http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12443; Wed, 3 Jul 96 20:38:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23807; Wed, 3 Jul 96 20:37:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23801; Wed, 3 Jul 96 20:37:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubfBh-00038TC; Wed, 3 Jul 96 20:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: krr@sn.no (Kristian Roenningen) Subject: Re: change position of included text? Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 00:29:31 +0200 Message-Id: References: <4r8l69$53n@infosrv.rz.uni-kiel.de> <4rap1a$ers@infosrv.rz.uni-kiel.de> Ulrike Lindemann (szrzs077@solaire.mail.uni-kiel.de) wrote: > The pine help says that the cursor will be positioned after the > included text, as I would like it. > But it is positioned at the beginning of the included text. Hm.. well, I'm not sure about that one. Maybe it depends on what editor you use? If you use an external editor or the internal pico-like. I use vi, and the cursor is positioned at the start of the body of the message. Personally, I think that's fine, since I start answering a mail at the top, I don't know about you though :) --- Kristian Roenningen - k@sn.no - http://www.sn.no/~krr/ _NiC@irc - *_NiC@irc.nano.no - L.E.D. & Matt_Ink member From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12534; Wed, 3 Jul 96 20:41:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23860; Wed, 3 Jul 96 20:40:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from berkshire.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23854; Wed, 3 Jul 96 20:40:42 -0700 Received: from loomis.berkshire.net (sugarman@loomis.berkshire.net [206.72.196.10]) by loomis.berkshire.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id XAA15876 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:41:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:41:05 -0400 (EDT) From: The Sugarmans To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: INBOX access error Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Any suggestions what I can do about the following error while in 3.94 INBOX in Sun OS? [MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR I have to exit Pine and restart. Any changes (items marked for deletion) are lost. TIA, Don Sugarman sugarman@berkshire.net FAX 413-443-7395 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13461; Wed, 3 Jul 96 21:39:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09240; Wed, 3 Jul 96 21:37:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09234; Wed, 3 Jul 96 21:37:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubgAm-00038TC; Wed, 3 Jul 96 21:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: meyerbos@best.com (Meyer Boswell Books Inc.) Subject: Printing to a LaserJet 4Plus Date: 29 Jun 1996 11:17:37 -0700 Message-Id: <4r3s01$pkb@shellx.best.com> When I print out a message in Pine on my Hewlett Packard LaserJet 4 Plus, the on-line and one other light go on, and I then have to walk over to the printer, turn off the on-line light, push the other lit one, and then turn the on-line light back on, to get the message to print out. Is there any way of programming Pine to send a page-eject or whatever other kind of message that would save me this little (but oft-repeated!) trip?? Many thanks, Joe Luttrell From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14362; Wed, 3 Jul 96 22:42:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09961; Wed, 3 Jul 96 22:40:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from slip-3.slip.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09955; Wed, 3 Jul 96 22:40:34 -0700 Received: from tinhed by slip-3 with smtp (Exim 0.52 #1) id E0ubh6O-00017o-00; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:37:20 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:37:19 -0700 (PDT) From: rey osburnb X-Sender: tinhed@slip-3 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: tinhed@slip.net Subject: lost all saved messages Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To whom it may require, At approx. 10:30PM, July 3rd I went to check for new mail. To my surprise I found nothing. Not even saved messages. Some of which were notes of important information I'll need right away. Please let me know if I can retrieve any of those documents. Thanks. Rey tinhed@slip.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17514; Thu, 4 Jul 96 01:32:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11813; Thu, 4 Jul 96 01:30:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11806; Thu, 4 Jul 96 01:29:58 -0700 Received: from slave.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 4 Jul 1996 09:27:50 +0100 Received: from localhost by slave.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA17472; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 09:29:45 +0100 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 09:29:44 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Gordon Larsen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Netscape and pine In-Reply-To: <4reeqo$l1t@sparky.nce.usace.army.mil> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There is not really such a thing as a "Pine mailbox" ... Pine merely access mail stored on the mail server in one of a number of common folder formats. The most commonly encountered is "Berkeley" format, as used by most UNIX systems. Pine can be configured to use direct access to the mailbox file, although it is better for a number of reasons to instead configure it to use the IMAP protocol to connect to an IMAP server. (IMAP is a protocol designed to allow remote mail clients such as Pine, Simeon, etc, to access mail on the mail server.) Netscape Navigator can use either direct file access or the POP protocol to connect to a POP server. (POP is a mail access protocol along the lines of IMAP but with different/less functionality.) So.... If you have direct access to your mailbox you MAY be able to use Navigator to access your mail folder. If you only have access to mail through an IMAP sverver you can't (Navigator doesn't support IMAP). If you have access to a POP server then you again can use Navigator. I suggest you contact your local help deak/ISP to learn what options are open to you and for assistance in using them. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Gordon Larsen wrote: > I would like to read my mail in a pine mailbox in Netscape. If > possible, how is this done? Also, could this be done with a Lotus > Ccmail box. > > Gordon Larsen > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23919; Thu, 4 Jul 96 06:37:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00807; Thu, 4 Jul 96 06:34:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00801; Thu, 4 Jul 96 06:34:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uboXT-00038TC; Thu, 4 Jul 96 06:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Adrian Keeling <100751.3242@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: How can I compile the lastest version of Pine? Date: 4 Jul 1996 13:19:12 GMT Message-Id: <4rggcg$nlt$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> References: to uncompress type uncompress filename.tar.Z to un-tar type tar -xvf filename.tar adrian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24981; Thu, 4 Jul 96 07:42:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15996; Thu, 4 Jul 96 07:39:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15990; Thu, 4 Jul 96 07:39:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubpYF-00038TC; Thu, 4 Jul 96 07:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mwe@unixfe.rl.ac.uk (Mike Ellwood) Subject: 3.94 (pre-compiled) under AIX 4.1.3 - compose in large window Date: 4 Jul 1996 13:32:18 GMT Message-Id: <4rgh52$1ga2@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk> Using aixterm with a large (>100 columns or so) window, seems to mess with compose's head (unable to type in subject - says you are going beyond header). "resize" doesn't help. Is there a known size limitation? (If it helps, I can narrow down the definition of "large" a bit better, by trial and error). TIA, Mike.Ellwood@rl.ac.uk p.s. this is the first problemette I've seen in about 2-3 weeks of daily use. Otherwise it seems very nice and solid. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25484; Thu, 4 Jul 96 08:09:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01878; Thu, 4 Jul 96 08:04:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01872; Thu, 4 Jul 96 08:04:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubpsT-00038TC; Thu, 4 Jul 96 07:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: lost all saved messages Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 10:58:14 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 3 Jul 1996, rey osburn wrote: > To whom it may require, > At approx. 10:30PM, July 3rd I went to check for new mail. To my > surprise I found nothing. Not even saved messages. Some of which were > notes of important information I'll need right away. Please let me know if > I can retrieve any of those documents. Thanks. > Rey > tinhed@slip.net Sad to say, your prospects are none too good. When you say you went to check for new mail, you did not say you were doing anything to filter mail into separate incoming mail folders, so I will presume the mail you were checking for was to have been in the default inbox, whatever it is named on your system. Although Pine uses this inbox, in a manner of speaking it does not "own" it. Probably some other process messed up and wiped it out. About all you can do is ask your site's Help Desk or system administrator if regular backups are made of the mail spool, and if so, could they restore whatever they can. Unfortuantely, I wouldn't be optimistic. Sorry. Just as a suggestion for future consideration, I personally do not think is it a good idea to leave already read mail in the inbox for this very reason. I always move important messages into some Pine folder or other, which is part of my regular storage and a little less likely to get hit by accidents like those to the mail spool. (Others may differ.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25752; Thu, 4 Jul 96 08:17:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16419; Thu, 4 Jul 96 08:15:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16413; Thu, 4 Jul 96 08:15:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubq6W-00038TC; Thu, 4 Jul 96 08:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Sending mail ? When ? Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:11:49 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4rgk3q$le6@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4rgk3q$le6@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> On 4 Jul 1996, Sven Goldt wrote: > my new problem with pine is that i can't send > uuencoded files that i included with the text > editor. After i typed ^X all i see is "Sending mail" and > that's it... Did you uuencode the file you wanted to send OUTSIDE of Pine and then include it in the body of your message with ^R ? That is the usual technique. You need to be able to see the actual uuencoded file in the message before you send it. Or are you possibly sending an attachment, which is something else? > I have an ESMPT server so i enabled 8bit ESMPT negotiation > if that means something. That should not make any difference, because uuencode is deliberately a 7-bit code. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26259; Thu, 4 Jul 96 08:44:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02412; Thu, 4 Jul 96 08:41:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server1.lycos.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02406; Thu, 4 Jul 96 08:41:35 -0700 Received: from mule.eng.lycos.com (mule.eng.lycos.com [206.101.96.90]) by server1.lycos.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA09622 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:41:34 -0400 Received: from localhost by mule.eng.lycos.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/12Mar96-0237PM) id AA25085; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:41:33 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:41:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jason M. Heyd" X-Sender: heyd@mule.eng.lycos.com To: Pine Info Subject: Is there a way to allow for multiple FCCs? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'd like to be able to save outgoing mail to more than one FCC, but short of writing a script that prompts me after the actual send, I haven't found a way. Am I missing anything? Thanks, Jason Heyd -- Systems Administrator Lycos, Inc. http://www.lycos.com/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27422; Thu, 4 Jul 96 09:26:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03041; Thu, 4 Jul 96 09:22:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from info2.info.tampere.fi by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03035; Thu, 4 Jul 96 09:22:23 -0700 Received: from bassie.info.tampere.fi by info2.info.tampere.fi with ESMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA099977439; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 19:23:59 +0300 Received: from bassie.info.tampere.fi (juhas@bassie.info.tampere.fi [194.188.233.227]) by bassie.info.tampere.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA17636 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 19:19:56 +0300 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 19:19:56 +0300 (EET DST) From: Juha Suhonen To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: 8-bit newsposting doesn't work! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm using pine on Linux, and on various occasions I notice, that my newsposting are still using MIME-QuotedUnReadable, when I have enabled 8bit-news-posting. Pine 3.94. :? JuhaS From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28138; Thu, 4 Jul 96 09:56:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03530; Thu, 4 Jul 96 09:54:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03524; Thu, 4 Jul 96 09:54:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubrf1-00038TC; Thu, 4 Jul 96 09:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: goldt@bsb.badw-muenchen.de (Sven Goldt) Subject: Re: Sending mail ? When ? Date: 4 Jul 1996 16:03:23 GMT Message-Id: <4rgq0b$3lm@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <4rgk3q$le6@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Paul O Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) wrote: : On 4 Jul 1996, Sven Goldt wrote: : : Did you uuencode the file you wanted to send OUTSIDE of Pine and : then include it in the body of your message with ^R ? That is the : usual technique. You need to be able to see the actual uuencoded file : in the message before you send it. Or are you possibly sending an : attachment, which is something else? Sure. I created a uuencoded file which i included with vi (:r file.uu), which is my alternate editor. I can see the file before i send it and it's a valid uuencoded file. Btw. i am using pine 3.94 on HP-UX 10.10. Sven -- The only limits are in your mind ! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28666; Thu, 4 Jul 96 10:17:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18152; Thu, 4 Jul 96 10:14:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18146; Thu, 4 Jul 96 10:14:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubrwU-00038TC; Thu, 4 Jul 96 10:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Question about "=" encoding (fwd) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 18:21:27 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I will go out on an etiquette limb and repost this, as I have not so far received any replies either in the newsgroup or by email. Sven Guckes originally posted the one-line Perl script to convert =xx type quoted-printable characters, but unfortunately all I get is a locked-up session. Because I do receive mail with untranslated QP characters in them, a working translator would be very welcome. Thanks very much. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart ---------- Forwarded message ---------- On Sun, 23 Jun 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote (excerpt): > : qpdecode: > : perl -pe 's/\=([0-9A-Fa-f]{2})/chr(hex($1))/ge; s/\=\n//;' > > Any suggestions on how actually to _use_ these utilities with Pine? > When viewing a usenet message with quoted printable in it, just piping > the message to 'qpdecode' above as an executable shell script simply > locks things up tight. I had to break the connection and dial back in. Someone emailed me that "perl" above really refers to Perl 5. On my system, if I want Perl 5 I have to say "perl5" because Perl 4 is still alive and well. However, even after making the change, Pine still locked up on me. The display would ripple (possibly due to a screen refresh) and "PIPED MESSAGE" would appear in the message bar at the top of the screen. (BTW, I am using Pine 3.94 and dialing in with a PC emulating a vt100.) Things would more or less be locked up tight. I could Ctrl-Z back to a shell prompt and kill the Pine process, but that is about all. The only other command Pine would respond to is '?' to get the prompts at the bottom of the screen (since I run with the prompts off since version 3.93), and even then, none of the prompts would work. I wonder if there is some sort of problem with the latchup between Perl and Pine in my configuration (SunOS 4.1.4). Any suggestions gratefully received, because it is truly annoying to try to read messages with QP characters in them untranslated. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29241; Thu, 4 Jul 96 10:51:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18557; Thu, 4 Jul 96 10:49:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18551; Thu, 4 Jul 96 10:49:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubsTp-00038WC; Thu, 4 Jul 96 10:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Schleichert Subject: PC Pine: Time zone Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:33:45 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Whenever I mail a new message, the time zone in the Date: field is set to PDT (Pacific Daylight-savings Time?) instead of CEST (Central European Summer Time). Under Windows for Workgroups 3.11, I cannot find where to set the local time zone, so PC-Pine probably defaults to the Washington local time. Is there a PC-Pine Config option available to set the time zone, or anything I didn't find in the Windows control panel? TIA, - Hans Schleichert -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Schleichert Institut fuer Medizinische Psychologie und Verhaltensneurobiologie (Institute of Medical Psychology and Behavioural Neurobiology) Eberhard-Karls-University Gartenstrasse 29 D-72074 Tuebingen, Germany Voice (+49-7071) 29-75997 NEW! Fax (+49-7071) 29-5956 Internet CompuServe [100031,775] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29273; Thu, 4 Jul 96 10:51:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04238; Thu, 4 Jul 96 10:49:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04232; Thu, 4 Jul 96 10:49:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubsTH-00038TC; Thu, 4 Jul 96 10:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Schleichert Subject: PC-Pine: Global pinerc file Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:24:16 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am posting this once more hoping to get a reply this time... Where do I place a global pinerc file for PC Pine (for Win-16), and how do I call it, on a PC that is used by several persons for e-mail? - Hans -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Schleichert Institut fuer Medizinische Psychologie und Verhaltensneurobiologie (Institute of Medical Psychology and Behavioural Neurobiology) Eberhard-Karls-University Gartenstrasse 29 D-72074 Tuebingen, Germany Voice (+49-7071) 29-75997 NEW! Fax (+49-7071) 29-5956 Internet CompuServe [100031,775] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01243; Thu, 4 Jul 96 12:36:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05631; Thu, 4 Jul 96 12:34:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05625; Thu, 4 Jul 96 12:34:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubu6l-00038WC; Thu, 4 Jul 96 12:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tby@cpm.elex.co.il (CPM2 Yuri Burkatovsky 3837 p.o.b.013) Subject: Re: Printing to a LaserJet 4Plus Message-Id: Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:07:15 GMT References: <4r3s01$pkb@shellx.best.com> Not really sure that it'll help you, but I set up my pine printer configuration as sed '1!s/^Date: /?Date: /' | lp as the personally selected print command. The '?' sign in this expression stands for the ASCII form-feed symbol (octal 014). This works perfectly when I apply "prYnt" command to several messages on my HP-UX work station. Every message goes out on a separate page, if you don't print them within full-header mode. You will probably check your printer setup, too. meyerbos@best.com (Meyer Boswell Books Inc.) wrote: >When I print out a message in Pine on my Hewlett Packard LaserJet 4 Plus, >the on-line and one other light go on, and I then have to walk over to the >printer, turn off the on-line light, push the other lit one, and then turn >the on-line light back on, to get the message to print out. > >Is there any way of programming Pine to send a page-eject or whatever >other kind of message that would save me this little (but oft-repeated!) >trip?? > >Many thanks, > >Joe Luttrell -- -- Regards, | /^^^\ Yury Burkatovsky | (| , , |) | | * | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01496; Thu, 4 Jul 96 12:51:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05832; Thu, 4 Jul 96 12:49:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05826; Thu, 4 Jul 96 12:49:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubuNm-00038WC; Thu, 4 Jul 96 12:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rafael del Valle Subject: Userdb and new news. Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:28:37 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE =09Hello!!! =09I have some problems using pine: =09I have configured=20 =09=09root:mailname =09rvalle@lander.es =09in my /etc/usrdb file, then, when i use mail as root all outgoing messages go with From: rvalle@lander.es. =09When i use pine, it still uses From: root =BF? Why??? =09In the other hand: =09How can i make Pine to show me only new news or unreaded ones?=20 =20 =09Thanks in advance. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01539; Thu, 4 Jul 96 12:52:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20008; Thu, 4 Jul 96 12:49:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20002; Thu, 4 Jul 96 12:49:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubuNE-00038TC; Thu, 4 Jul 96 12:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gagnonjo@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Jocelyn G) Subject: Unix-Pine 3.89: Can I expand the fields when in Compose? Date: 4 Jul 96 14:47:14 GMT Message-Id: Someone posted a way to do it in pine 3.9x, but my server is still using 3.89. When I'm in Compose, I would like to see only the fields I choose: To: Cc: Bcc: Fcc: Subject: Can I do that? If possible, reply also by e-mail. Thanks in advance! -- ============== Je suis candidat aux Webs d'Or. Votez pour moi! ============== Jocelyn G e-mail: gagnonjo@ERE.UMontreal.CA BLAGUES-L, c'est moi ! www: http://tornade.ERE.UMontreal.CA/~gagnonjo/ ============ http://www.france.com/cgi-bin/france/vv.pl?sid=2414 ============= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01839; Thu, 4 Jul 96 13:03:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20123; Thu, 4 Jul 96 13:00:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20111; Thu, 4 Jul 96 12:59:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubuVx-00038TC; Thu, 4 Jul 96 12:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: conrads@dolphin.neosoft.com (Conrad Sabatier) Subject: Re: INBOX access error Date: 4 Jul 1996 19:55:38 GMT Message-Id: <4rh7jq$cfa@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: In article , The Sugarmans wrote: > >Any suggestions what I can do about the following error while in 3.94 >INBOX in Sun OS? > >[MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR > >I have to exit Pine and restart. Any changes (items marked for deletion) >are lost. I get this error occasionally, too. I'm beginning to suspect it's a "sharing" problem, i.e., my popclient is appending new incoming mail to my inbox at the same time Pine is trying to read from it. Not sure what the solution is, though. I'd certainly be interested to hear any suggestions. -- Conrad Sabatier -- http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02529; Thu, 4 Jul 96 13:11:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06249; Thu, 4 Jul 96 13:09:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06243; Thu, 4 Jul 96 13:09:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubufA-00038TC; Thu, 4 Jul 96 13:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: goldt@bsb.badw-muenchen.de (Sven Goldt) Subject: Sending mail ? When ? Date: 4 Jul 1996 14:22:50 GMT Message-Id: <4rgk3q$le6@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Hi, my new problem with pine is that i can't send uuencoded files that i included with the text editor. After i typed ^X all i see is "Sending mail" and that's it... I have an ESMPT server so i enabled 8bit ESMPT negotiation if that means something. Any clues ? Sven -- The only limits are in your mind ! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03945; Thu, 4 Jul 96 14:19:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21275; Thu, 4 Jul 96 14:17:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21269; Thu, 4 Jul 96 14:17:19 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11389; Thu, 4 Jul 96 14:17:14 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:17:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Juha Suhonen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: 8-bit newsposting doesn't work! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yup, that feature accidentally got broken in 3.94... it'll be fixed in 3.95, which will be Real Soon Now. -teg On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Juha Suhonen wrote: > I'm using pine on Linux, and on various occasions I notice, that my > newsposting are still using MIME-QuotedUnReadable, when I have enabled > 8bit-news-posting. Pine 3.94. :? > > > > JuhaS > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04117; Thu, 4 Jul 96 14:22:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07293; Thu, 4 Jul 96 14:21:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from TAG01.ACNET.NET by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07287; Thu, 4 Jul 96 14:21:12 -0700 Received: from @tag.acnet.net ([167.114.251.17]) by tag01.acnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA02273 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:19:02 -0600 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:19:02 -0600 Message-Id: <199607042219.QAA02273@tag01.acnet.net> X-Sender: inovatec@tag.acnet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: john connolly Hi=20 I would like to know more about MS-Mail gateway SMTP including costs, minimum configuration and where I could get a hold of it. I don=B4t know if this is the right place to send this request but its the only link I have. If not, please direct me. =20 Thanks for your assistance. John=20 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05436; Thu, 4 Jul 96 15:48:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22375; Thu, 4 Jul 96 15:46:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22369; Thu, 4 Jul 96 15:46:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubx57-00038TC; Thu, 4 Jul 96 15:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Reclaiming Remote folder or INBOX lock Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 18:27:49 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Is there are way to tell an instance of pine to reclaim a remote folder lock without having to restart it? thanks, - -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv Comment: Processed by mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAgUBMdv91xu6nIqxqP+5AQEFJgQAiD/74+i0/5e7T+6A51/S9LxX1uC4J/WU WnDOOfNwt7oIgetOieqkCAHLWWMx3UbLB7WjQgM8UlJm8wJDQGD6h90SS4pr8izC SiDJaa/ZwPK3vJk7vvEaMVQRQK3iZCiZEznhBEyzrQX+zOn6DmZ9J4+QgpJZNI+O z0AnCETbvEc= =g5cM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07940; Thu, 4 Jul 96 18:21:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24076; Thu, 4 Jul 96 18:19:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aix1.uottawa.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24070; Thu, 4 Jul 96 18:19:47 -0700 Received: by aix1.uottawa.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA87728; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 21:16:54 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 21:16:53 -0400 (EDT) From: mmyles@aix1.uottawa.ca To: U Washington Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello? Anybody there? I have a question: how can I send an e-mial note to all the members of my address book at once? I can't figure out the commands myself. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks... Mike Myles, Ottawa, Canada From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08350; Thu, 4 Jul 96 18:47:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10423; Thu, 4 Jul 96 18:46:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10417; Thu, 4 Jul 96 18:46:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ubzty-00038TC; Thu, 4 Jul 96 18:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roxanne Howard Subject: howdy u all Date: 4 Jul 1996 15:47:44 GMT Message-Id: <4rgp30$4vc@cowee.wcu.edu> References: <4qub7j$glq@pollux.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hey ok. looks like i have time after all, how are things with gordys, i have a lot to tell u so i know that u have the house to yourselve don't do anything i wouldn't do, i went tubing on saturday and on thursday i went to this town called ashville u would have loved it it had a bunch of spiritual shops and on sunday i'm going to this indian stuff well lots of love from: Diana From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08735; Thu, 4 Jul 96 19:22:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24803; Thu, 4 Jul 96 19:20:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24791; Thu, 4 Jul 96 19:20:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uc0Sl-00038TC; Thu, 4 Jul 96 19:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hendee@wave.aoml.erl.gov (Jim Hendee) Subject: Continual "To save disk space..." Date: 3 Jul 1996 13:20:53 GMT Message-Id: <4rds3l$dav@nil.aoml.noaa.gov> I keep getting the message, "To save disk space, delete old SENT mail folder 'sent-mail-may-1995'?", etc. I have never had this happen before...just recently. Does anybody have a clue as to what's wrong? Many thanks, Jim Hendee hendee@aoml.noaa.gov From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09519; Thu, 4 Jul 96 20:21:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11526; Thu, 4 Jul 96 20:20:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11520; Thu, 4 Jul 96 20:20:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uc1QD-00038TC; Thu, 4 Jul 96 20:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aaron@xmission.com (Aaron M. Scarisbrick) Subject: Re: WYSE50 support Date: 1 Jul 1996 06:02:01 GMT Message-Id: <4r7pkp$nq8@news.xmission.com> References: <31D4314E.5312@norvell.com> Chris Womack (cwomack@norvell.com) wrote: : Has anyone successfully used PINE with a WYSE50 terminal? : I have many plain WYSE50 terminals that I would like to : use PINE on. I use Pine successfully with Wyse terminals, but not without a few config options. To my makefile I added "-DTERMCAP_WINS" which fixes the arrow keys. You must do this for pine's makefile as well as pico's makefile. I also added "preserve-start-stop-characters" to the feature list in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed to fix the XON/XOFF problems with my serial terminal connections. Also, if you are trying to compile Pine on DC.OSx make sure you have cc version 4.0, or you're in for SEGV city. FWIW, --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aaron M. Scarisbrick "Yes, this is correct." -Larry Wall --------------------------------------------------------------------------- aaron@xmission.com http://www.xmission.com/~aaron --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10302; Thu, 4 Jul 96 21:14:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12163; Thu, 4 Jul 96 21:13:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12157; Thu, 4 Jul 96 21:13:31 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.lmco.com ([166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA20519 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 00:13:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.lmco.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA30068 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 00:13:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (4.1/LMCO SunOS Server Nondomain-1.1) id AA26008; Fri, 5 Jul 96 00:11:49 EDT Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 00:11:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman X-Sender: sugarman@mmpcs1 To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: INBOX access error Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Any suggestions what I can do about the following error while in 3.94 INBOX in Sun OS? [MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR I have to exit Pine and restart. Any changes (items marked for deletion by reading or just marking) are lost. TIA, Don Sugarman sugarman@berkshire.net FAX 413-443-7395 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12996; Fri, 5 Jul 96 00:23:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27953; Fri, 5 Jul 96 00:20:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27947; Fri, 5 Jul 96 00:20:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uc57c-00038WC; Fri, 5 Jul 96 00:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu (Annelise Anderson) Subject: Re: Lessons learned...Pine with procmail..:) Date: 5 Jul 1996 06:47:27 GMT Message-Id: <4ridpv$sq4@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: Bryon L Harvey (blh@hpserv.clearlight.com) wrote: : Hi fellow Pine users! : Now that procmail and Pine are happily working together...I thought I : would share some -lessons learned- from this..umm..less-than-enjoyable : -but-I'm-glad-it's-done experience. [snip] : Procmail can do about anything you want it to.. except make a good cup of : java..:) : I am _now_ a expert on Procmail (hadn't planned on it) and will be more : than happy to help anybody else setting it up with Pine. It's not _really_ : that hard once you know what to do...and how to do it right! :) It _really_ : saves me a tremendous amount of time... : Bryon L Harvey : PERL/PROCMAIL helper : http://clearlight.com/blh http://clearlight.com/perl Hi Bryon--I just got pine and procmail working together also, but I've got sendmail as the mail agent and procmail configured in my home directory. Procmail's happily sorting mail into various incoming folders. Now, pine 3.94's release notes say it's possible to read mail sent to other users' mail boxes. I'm thinking of a "user" I create to use as an account from which to subscribe to a mailing list; alternatively the mail to this user might be sorted by procmail into an incoming folder in my home directory. I haven't been able to get procmail to do this, the mail still goes to the user to whom it was directed in spite of a .forward file and a .procmailrc file in that user's home directory. Any suggestions? Annelise P.S. This is running on FreeBSD. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13459; Fri, 5 Jul 96 00:53:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14498; Fri, 5 Jul 96 00:51:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14492; Fri, 5 Jul 96 00:51:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uc5bP-00038TC; Fri, 5 Jul 96 00:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@marsgrp.tamu.edu (Harrison Bergeron) Subject: pico tmp files from pine Date: 1 Jul 1996 14:40:15 GMT Message-Id: I hope this isn't an obvious and stupid question. How can I get pico to stop leaving the pico.xxxx~ files in /tmp? I've looked through the man pages, I've looked through the documentation. I even tried hardcoding it into the source files when I rebuilt 3.94, but I must have missed a spot. I don't even use pico, as I've set it to use an alternate editor and have the option to use it implicitly set. Unfortunately, it still starts with pico until I get past the headers. I run Linux, kernel 2.0, gcc 2.7.2. I find it really hard to believe that there is no provision to set a tmp file by way of the environment. If this is the case, then pine/pico is really brain-damaged. As an aside, the build proceedure is ridiculous. Life would be a lot simpler if the MS stuff was contained in separate directories. Getting the makefile and os-lnx.h info from ttyout.c (I believe that's the one with the comments about switching from the unix world to the dos/win world) was a real pain. Thanks in Advance. -- semon@comp.tamu.edu Steinberger: State of the Instrument From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14154; Fri, 5 Jul 96 01:24:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28574; Fri, 5 Jul 96 01:21:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28568; Fri, 5 Jul 96 01:21:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uc63n-00038TC; Fri, 5 Jul 96 01:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu (Annelise Anderson) Subject: Re: queueing incoming mail Date: 5 Jul 1996 07:56:10 GMT Message-Id: <4rihqq$an@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <4psc82$pk7@what.why.net> Matt Hinze (mjh@reserve.why.net) wrote: : Hi, we are looking to back up our mail system and need direction : in queueing all the mail using, of course, sendmail. Someome mentioned : something called 'back-p', does anyone here know of such? Would it be : useful in this case? : Please CC a copy of all responses to me via email, and TIA. Edit the sendmail.cf file and change 0di to 0dq. This will queue incoming mail and outgoing if pine is using sendmail on the same host it's running on. -- Annelise : -- : Matt Hinze, email: mhinze@why.net T h e W h y ? N e t w o r k : http://users.why.net/mhinze (817) 795-1765 (214) 642-9824 : "Information wants to be free." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14265; Fri, 5 Jul 96 01:28:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14879; Fri, 5 Jul 96 01:26:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hermes.cti.gr by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14873; Fri, 5 Jul 96 01:26:08 -0700 From: Pan.Dimakopoulos@cti.gr Received: (from dimakop@localhost) by hermes.cti.gr (8.7.4/8.7.3) id LAA18932; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:24:07 +0300 (EET DST) Organization: Computer Technology Institute - (CTI) Kolokotroni 3, 262 21 Patras, P.O.Box 1122, 261 10 Patras, Greece Tel: +30(61)992061, 994317-18 Fax: +30(61)993973, 222086 TELEX: 312515 CTI GR Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:24:06 +0300 (EET DST) To: Terry Gray Cc: Juha Suhonen , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: 8-bit newsposting doesn't work! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > Yup, that feature accidentally got broken in 3.94... it'll be fixed in > 3.95, which will be Real Soon Now. > > -teg > > On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Juha Suhonen wrote: > > > I'm using pine on Linux, and on various occasions I notice, that my > > newsposting are still using MIME-QuotedUnReadable, when I have enabled > > 8bit-news-posting. Pine 3.94. :? > > > > > > > > JuhaS > > > > > > I have sent mails to this list quite a few times claiming that neither the newsposting nor the mailposting works for 8 bits! I have made tests many times with pine 3.94 on Solaris 2.4 and the results in all of them where negative! This feature has never worked correctly for 3.93, 3.92 versions either. Please pine-team, keep this serious bug (at least for us the foreigners!) in mind when preparing for 3.95. Thank you, ------------------------------------------------------ | Panos Dimakopoulos dimakop@cti.gr | | COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY INSTITUTE | | P.O. Box 1122 | | 261 10 Patras, Greece | | Tel (+30) 61 992061, 994317 Fax (+30) 61 993973 | ------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16029; Fri, 5 Jul 96 03:12:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29663; Fri, 5 Jul 96 03:06:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from haleakala.aloha.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29657; Fri, 5 Jul 96 03:06:24 -0700 Received: from localhost (jamil@localhost) by haleakala.aloha.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA29246 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 00:03:29 -1000 (HST) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 00:03:29 -1000 (HST) From: "Jamil K. Samimi" X-Sender: jamil@haleakala To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Using Netscape for my mail Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Howzit. Happy 4th of July! I just found out that there's a way that I can access my email while in the Netscape browser mode. I checked in the "options" to try and set up this process but a at a loss for what to put in at the lines asking for: "Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server", "Incoming Mail (POP) Server" and for "POP User Name", I had put in "pine-robot@docserver.cac.washinton.edu for the first two and didnt know what to put in the 3rd space. Needsess to say it didn't work, so I had to exit to EWANTelnet to do this letter. Is this thing I heard possible, and if so, can you help me with the proper 'incantation'? Thanks from the Big Island, Hawaii. Jamil K. Samimi- jamil@aloha.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16393; Fri, 5 Jul 96 03:32:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16110; Fri, 5 Jul 96 03:26:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16104; Fri, 5 Jul 96 03:26:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uc80o-00038TC; Fri, 5 Jul 96 03:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schild@gmd.de (Goeran Schild) Subject: mail2PostScript? Date: 5 Jul 1996 10:12:40 GMT Message-Id: <4ripqo$51j@omega.gmd.de> Hello, I am looking for a tool converting a pine mail into a nice PostScript image before printing it. Does anybody know something about this subject? --- Göran Schild (goeran.schild@gmd.de) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18026; Fri, 5 Jul 96 04:26:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00698; Fri, 5 Jul 96 04:21:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00691; Fri, 5 Jul 96 04:21:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uc8tR-00038TC; Fri, 5 Jul 96 04:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hm@Germany.EU.net (Holger Muenx) Subject: Using old MH folders? Date: 5 Jul 1996 13:16:43 +0200 Message-Id: <4ritir$299@Germany.EU.net> Guten Tag! After using exmh for quite a long time I decided to use another mail reader because exmh tends to being slow when processing big amounts of mail. (exmh is using the mh folder format.) Is there any way to use the exmh folders from pine? Not just with Goto folder and giving #mh/some_folder but with properly adding them to the folder list? I tried the following: o Used Add in Folder List and gave #mh/some_folder where some_folder is the name of an existing exmh folder. Unfortunately, pine just complains that this folder already exists. o Used the old exmh mail directory as actual folder collection. The folder list displays all my old folders. Unfortunately, I cannot select any folder, probably because of pine not knowing that these are mh folders and not plain mail files as expected by pine. Any suggestion? Thank you in advance for your help! Holger Muenx (hm@germany.eu.net) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18783; Fri, 5 Jul 96 05:04:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17225; Fri, 5 Jul 96 04:59:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17219; Fri, 5 Jul 96 04:59:20 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 5 Jul 96 20:03:24 +0800 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:57:16 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Goeran Schild Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: mail2PostScript? In-Reply-To: <4ripqo$51j@omega.gmd.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 5 Jul 1996, Goeran Schild wrote: > I am looking for a tool converting a pine mail into a nice PostScript image > before printing it. Does anybody know something about this subject? If you are "lucky" you'd have access to a machine running Solaris. Solaris has a utility called "mp" which will do what you'd like. MP is also known as "make pretty". I've seen the source available quite some time ago on the Net. You may be able to find it.... Good luck Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19271; Fri, 5 Jul 96 05:27:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01431; Fri, 5 Jul 96 05:25:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from intfw.bear.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01425; Fri, 5 Jul 96 05:25:11 -0700 Received: by intfw.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06766; Fri, 5 Jul 96 08:25:05 EDT Received: from fastbear(165.168.74.3) by intfw via smap (V1.3) id sma006682; Fri Jul 5 08:22:55 1996 Received: from ursa2.bear.com by fastbear.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/1.0 AMR 12/15/94) id AA05382; Fri, 5 Jul 96 08:41:29 EDT Received: from whip_xfr.bear.com (whip-xfr) by ursa2.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/AMR+DJMS(2)) id AA04393; Fri, 5 Jul 96 08:22:59 EDT Received: from warlock.bsnet by whip_xfr.bear.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA21726; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 08:23:00 -0400 Received: from tiberius.bsnet by warlock.bsnet (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA10890; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 08:22:59 -0400 Received: from localhost by tiberius.bsnet (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA03136; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 08:22:54 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 08:22:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard G. Roberto" Reply-To: richr@bear.com To: pine mailing list Subject: A silly question Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I did this once, but I can't remember how. I want to configure pine 3.94 to display stars in the upper left corner when its busy doing stuff. I can't find the option to turn this on. I'm using the precompiled linux binaries. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Richard G. Roberto richr@bear.com 201-739-2886 - whippany, nj -- ******************************************************************************* Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. ******************************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20150; Fri, 5 Jul 96 06:23:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18144; Fri, 5 Jul 96 06:20:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.NL.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18138; Fri, 5 Jul 96 06:20:05 -0700 Received: from ciint by ns.NL.net via EUnet id AA09614 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:01:46 +0200 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa24356; 5 Jul 96 14:48 WET Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:49:19 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering To: "Richard G. Roberto" Cc: pine mailing list Subject: Re: A silly question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Richard G. Roberto wrote: > I did this once, but I can't remember how. I want to > configure pine 3.94 to display stars in the upper left > corner when its busy doing stuff. I can't find the option > to turn this on. I'm using the precompiled linux binaries. > > Any help would be appreciated. The feature you are looking for is called enable-mail-check-cue. Regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | Let me make one thing perfectly clear: | | CI International B.V. Netherlands | I never explain anything! (Mary Poppins)| +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20406; Fri, 5 Jul 96 06:37:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02141; Fri, 5 Jul 96 06:34:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02135; Fri, 5 Jul 96 06:34:30 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 5 Jul 96 21:38:35 +0800 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 21:32:30 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "Richard G. Roberto" Cc: pine mailing list Subject: Re: A silly question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Richard G. Roberto wrote: > I did this once, but I can't remember how. I want to > configure pine 3.94 to display stars in the upper left > corner when its busy doing stuff. I can't find the option > to turn this on. I'm using the precompiled linux binaries. > > Any help would be appreciated. FEATURE: enable-mail-check-cue If set, this feature will cause an asterisk to appear in the upper left-hand corner of the screen whenever Pine checks for new mail, and two asterisks whenever Pine saves (checkpoints) the state of the current mailbox to disk. Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21159; Fri, 5 Jul 96 07:23:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02637; Fri, 5 Jul 96 07:20:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tecoma.mccc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02631; Fri, 5 Jul 96 07:20:49 -0700 Received: from tecoma (pjh@tecoma [198.133.170.1]) by tecoma.mccc.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24376 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:20:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:20:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Pete Holsberg X-Sender: pjh@tecoma To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Problwm with compiled 3.94 for Solaris Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I recently ftp'd the Solaris binary of 3.94 and installed it, replacing 3.91 that we used successfully for a long time. Users report that pine tries to create a folders directory named /home/fac/joe//home/fac/joe/mail (or perhaps it was Mail) and fails. Is that because of the way 3.94 was compiled? Thanks, Pete From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25366; Fri, 5 Jul 96 09:37:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21380; Fri, 5 Jul 96 09:35:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from anjinho.dsc.ufpb.br by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21374; Fri, 5 Jul 96 09:35:45 -0700 Received: by dsc.ufpb.br (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26152; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:36:46 -0300 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:36:46 -0300 From: nogueira@dsc.ufpb.br (Felipe Barbosa Nogueira / (Graduacao DSC)) Message-Id: <9607051636.AA26152@dsc.ufpb.br> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine on aix X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII I like to know where I get compiled pine for aix 4.1 running on a rs6000 Felipe (nogueira@dsc.ufpb.br) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26193; Fri, 5 Jul 96 10:03:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21864; Fri, 5 Jul 96 09:58:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from anjinho.dsc.ufpb.br by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21858; Fri, 5 Jul 96 09:58:31 -0700 Received: by dsc.ufpb.br (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26653; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:59:20 -0300 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:59:20 -0300 From: nogueira@dsc.ufpb.br (Felipe Barbosa Nogueira / (Graduacao DSC)) Message-Id: <9607051659.AA26653@dsc.ufpb.br> To: harris@email.unc.edu Subject: compiled pine for aix Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII hello Trey, I'd like to know, step by step, i compile and port pine for aix 4.1 running on rs6000 thanks, Felipe e-mail:nogueira@dsc.ufpb.br From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26527; Fri, 5 Jul 96 10:05:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21975; Fri, 5 Jul 96 10:03:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from anjinho.dsc.ufpb.br by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21967; Fri, 5 Jul 96 10:03:28 -0700 Received: by dsc.ufpb.br (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26861; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 14:04:31 -0300 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 14:04:31 -0300 From: fabricio@dsc.ufpb.br (Fabricio Luis Fonseca Fontes / (Graduacao DSC)) Message-Id: <9607051704.AA26861@dsc.ufpb.br> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PINE 3.9X ported to AIX 4.1.2 X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII > Hi, Rob > > > > I read the mail about Pine ported to AIX 4.1.2 that you sent to pine-info and I thought you can help me to compile the pine for AIX . > > I already have the source binarie (pine-bin.a32) > > and the pine sources. And now? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > Fabricio Fontes > > Computer Science Student > > Univeserty Federal of Paraiba > > Brazil > > > > E-mail: fabricio@dsc.ufpb.br > > http: http://www.dsc.ufpb.br/~fabricio > > ----------------------------------------------- > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01201; Fri, 5 Jul 96 11:54:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24453; Fri, 5 Jul 96 11:52:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24447; Fri, 5 Jul 96 11:52:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucFwZ-00038TC; Fri, 5 Jul 96 11:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: magnus stahre Subject: Re: [Q]:Alias in outgoing mail Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 20:46:14 +0200 Message-Id: References: <4rei4c$e9l@dove.nist.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4rei4c$e9l@dove.nist.gov> On 3 Jul 1996, Ken Snyder wrote: | I want to have my outgoing mail return address to be an alias: | firstname.lastname@nist.gov | I can change "user-domain" to nist.gov, but what setting do I change to | get the firstname.lastname? Recompile pine with `ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM' defined in os.h and add `From: Ken Snyder ' to customized-hdrs. -- ____ ____ \ / magnus stahre - Oden Support \ / \/ magnus@stahre.pp.se \/ <> <> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06173; Fri, 5 Jul 96 14:37:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11398; Fri, 5 Jul 96 14:33:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11392; Fri, 5 Jul 96 14:33:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucIQc-00038TC; Fri, 5 Jul 96 14:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: leich@papin.HRZ.Uni-Marburg.DE (Steffen Leich) Subject: Pine-Addr -> Netscape-Addr Date: 4 Jul 1996 10:39:21 GMT Message-Id: <4rg70p$mgq@surz03fi.HRZ.Uni-Marburg.DE> If you're looking for a converter for Pine2Netscape-Addressbooks have a look at: http://mailer.wiwi.uni-marburg.de/p2n.gz Steffen -- _____________________________________________________ Steffen Leich Universitaet Marburg leich@mailer.uni-marburg.de leich@wiwi.uni-marburg.de http://www.wiwi.uni-marburg.de/perl.exe?scripts/sl.pl From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06856; Fri, 5 Jul 96 14:54:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28245; Fri, 5 Jul 96 14:52:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28239; Fri, 5 Jul 96 14:52:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucIn4-00038WC; Fri, 5 Jul 96 14:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: anirvan@crl.com (Anirvan Chatterjee) Subject: Re: MailBombs Date: 3 Jul 1996 04:30:53 GMT Message-Id: <4rct1t$io5@nntp.crl.com> References: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- stonem@netcom.com wrote: : I have heard mention of an automatic killfile ?? And how do i look at the : header of the mailbomb without triggering the ansi sequence. If I can : find out who this person is I will be emialing his sysadmin. Take a look athe the Mail Filtering FAQ for a really good explanation of different strategies and tools to use in approaching your problem. ============================================================================ Anirvan Chatterjee anirvan@crl.com http//www.pobox.com/~anirvan/ finger -> PGP/geek ============================================================================ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMdn3eWTQ0LuTxcFlAQEBLAP9HtZMhxxQeR+u3TORZ6+WjtWtoRtgnEo6 VIvZoVHBO5DsQsj8HUw9w4Wj32w5ynxs4D/aoCWzIh2a9oQwVGlGRj7+IYxe4FB1 hNjJEG5UVndoObAaDAOiRFGTFAv/YsfeNObj7tOiQtVHkGLqbh6lNVNwAqVq9vp6 bVi2bsLOtPE= =XZPF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13644; Fri, 5 Jul 96 19:14:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15835; Fri, 5 Jul 96 19:13:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15829; Fri, 5 Jul 96 19:13:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucMqB-00038TC; Fri, 5 Jul 96 19:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chivas@sfu.ca (Jim Chivas) Subject: UIDL pop server and otherrrr pop clients Date: 4 Jul 1996 04:09:53 GMT Message-Id: <4rfg6h$hvb@morgoth.sfu.ca> Greetings: I have installed the pop3d from the imap 4 version. This did solve my Netscape probblem but I have users now saying when they use other pop clients like 'eudora', sorry, these users are Eudora fans, that ALL their mail on my pop server gets downloaded to their pc and deleted from the pop server eventhough their .ini file on their pc says to leave the mail on the server. Can anyone explain why this might be happening? It seems I have solved one problem (Netscape) but created a new problem. Thanks Jim From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14068; Fri, 5 Jul 96 19:39:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02954; Fri, 5 Jul 96 19:38:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02948; Fri, 5 Jul 96 19:38:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucNFU-00038TC; Fri, 5 Jul 96 19:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@mccc.edu (Super-User) Subject: Re: Problwm with compiled 3.94 for Solaris Date: 5 Jul 1996 22:31:35 -0400 Message-Id: <4rkj67$sqt@tecoma.mccc.edu> References: <4rkhjl$s5o@tecoma.mccc.edu> In article <4rkhjl$s5o@tecoma.mccc.edu>, Super-User wrote: >Someone suggested that I grab the source code compile it. I have: > (1)Solaris 2.5, and > (2) gcc. > >So all I have to do is: > (1) gunzip pine*gz > (2) tar -xvf pine* > (3) cd pine3.94 > (4) ./build sol >right? > >Wrong. There's one heckuva lot of hand editing that has to be done and >nary a clue of how to do it. > >PS: I apologize if I have been stupid and overlooked something obvious -- >except that it wasn't obvious to me. Mea culpa, mea culpa. I just discovered "gso". Sorry. :-( Pete From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15488; Fri, 5 Jul 96 21:20:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17202; Fri, 5 Jul 96 21:19:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17196; Fri, 5 Jul 96 21:19:15 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18921; Fri, 5 Jul 96 21:19:14 -0700 X-Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for dlm+postmaster; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:40:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04824; Fri, 5 Jul 96 13:40:11 -0700 X-Received: from paw.montana.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10428; Fri, 5 Jul 96 13:40:09 -0700 X-Received: from uncle.montana.com (uncle [199.2.139.29]) by paw.montana.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13589 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 14:44:13 -0600 (MDT) X-Received: from freemail ([206.230.43.70]) by uncle.montana.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA05255 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 14:44:19 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607051442244.FreeMail.com> To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scottk Date: Fri 05 Jul 1996 16:22:37 EDT Reply-To: scottk X-Mailer: FreeMail SMTP Gateway v2.0 Rev 6e (W16) X-Webpage: http://www.FreeMail.com Subject: RE: pine on aix Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 21:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: I like to know where I get compiled pine for aix 4.1 running on a rs6000 Felipe (nogueira@dsc.ufpb.br) ------------ I'd try the AIX Public Domain Software Library (aixpdslib) at UCLA. You can http or ftp there at http://aixpdslib.seas.ucla.edu They've got a wide variety of software; available as source or also pre-compiled binary. ( But if you get it pre-compiled, you miss all the real fun! ) The instructions for compiling the source (at least for 3.2.5) is quite clear, and even for this novice, quite easy. Go for it! kls ------------------- From: FreeMail!owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu To: all@Ken.Scott Subject: pine on aix Written: 01:36 PM on Friday Jul 05, 1996 Received: 04:07 PM on Friday Jul 05, 1996 Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:36:46 -0300 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine on aix _______________Headers_______________ Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by paw.montana.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA08488 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:42:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21380; Fri, 5 Jul 96 09:35:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from anjinho.dsc.ufpb.br by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21374; Fri, 5 Jul 96 09:35:45 -0700 Received: by dsc.ufpb.br (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26152; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:36:46 -0300 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:36:46 -0300 From: nogueira@dsc.ufpb.br (Felipe Barbosa Nogueira / (Graduacao DSC)) Message-Id: <9607051636.AA26152@dsc.ufpb.br> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine on aix X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21923; Sat, 6 Jul 96 03:40:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21162; Sat, 6 Jul 96 03:39:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21156; Sat, 6 Jul 96 03:39:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucUlN-00038TC; Sat, 6 Jul 96 03:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@mccc.edu (Super-User) Subject: Re: Problwm with compiled 3.94 for Solaris Date: 5 Jul 1996 22:04:37 -0400 Message-Id: <4rkhjl$s5o@tecoma.mccc.edu> References: In article , Pete Holsberg wrote: >I recently ftp'd the Solaris binary of 3.94 and installed >it, replacing 3.91 that we used successfully for a long >time. > >Users report that pine tries to create a folders directory >named > /home/fac/joe//home/fac/joe/mail > >(or perhaps it was Mail) and fails. > >Is that because of the way 3.94 was compiled? Someone suggested that I grab the source code compile it. I have: (1)Solaris 2.5, and (2) gcc. So all I have to do is: (1) gunzip pine*gz (2) tar -xvf pine* (3) cd pine3.94 (4) ./build sol right? Wrong. There's one heckuva lot of hand editing that has to be done and nary a clue of how to do it. For example, even if I edit makefile.sol for both pine and pico so that CC=gcc, I still have to change the CFLAGS so that SYSTYPE is defined correctly, right? And even after I did that, I still get more error messages. Does anyone have a good set of gcc-oriented makefiles and Solaris-dependent files that I could use? Thanks, Pete PS: I apologize if I have been stupid and overlooked something obvious -- except that it wasn't obvious to me. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22921; Sat, 6 Jul 96 04:07:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08573; Sat, 6 Jul 96 04:05:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jell.Fullerton.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08567; Sat, 6 Jul 96 04:05:35 -0700 Received: by jell.fullerton.edu; id AA31883; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 04:09:20 -0700 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 04:09:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Li Tao To: Pine Information List Subject: Can a copy all messages in a collection to one folder? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a command that can copy all the messages in a collection to a folder in another collection (then delete all folders in the collection)? Do I have to select all the messages, apply and save, goto the next folder, select all the messages again, etc. ? Li Tao ltao@jell.fullerton.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25922; Sat, 6 Jul 96 08:07:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10904; Sat, 6 Jul 96 08:05:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10898; Sat, 6 Jul 96 08:05:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucYqT-00038TC; Sat, 6 Jul 96 08:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chuck Foster Subject: Multiple IMAP accounts on one Pine session Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 16:00:34 +0000 Message-Id: <31DE8DA2.4C70@uunet.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am currently using Pine 3.92 for PC and Unix, and have found that when I attempt to access more than one IMAP account I find that the second one always asks me for my id/password again, even though I have specified it before; this doesn't occur for the first IMAP account. I have a number of accounts on different systems, with different ids and passwords. Does this occur in Pine 3.94 as well, or will be 'fixed' in the upcoming 3.95? Thanks, Chuck From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29404; Sat, 6 Jul 96 12:12:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26773; Sat, 6 Jul 96 12:10:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26767; Sat, 6 Jul 96 12:10:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucchg-00038TC; Sat, 6 Jul 96 12:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jason Subject: Re: subscribe Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:04:20 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4rc3sr$lvr@rain.psg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4rc3sr$lvr@rain.psg.com> On 2 Jul 1996, Tony Costa wrote: > subscribe pine-info apcosta@mail.med.cornell.edu Where was this suppose to go? --------------------------------------------------------------- | Jason | "bes i kann smel i joust chosie knot too" | | Rapheal Giovanni | "I never realized how intense we look | | Cam # Pending | almost like we're in terrible pain." | --------------------------------------------------------------- | You might be a redneck vampire if | http://www.geocities.com | | all your ghouls are family members | /TimesSquare/2613 | | (oops that's the Giovanni) | | --------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29806; Sat, 6 Jul 96 12:37:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13909; Sat, 6 Jul 96 12:36:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13903; Sat, 6 Jul 96 12:36:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucd3Y-00038TC; Sat, 6 Jul 96 12:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fansari@Linux.berlin.snafu.de (Beispielbenutzer S.u.S.E. Linux 4.2) Subject: Test Date: 6 Jul 1996 20:52:59 +0200 Message-Id: <4rmcmb$1kp@Linux.berlin.snafu.de> Test -- ------------------------ Frank Ansari fansari@berlin.snafu.de ------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00241; Sat, 6 Jul 96 13:02:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27290; Sat, 6 Jul 96 13:00:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27284; Sat, 6 Jul 96 13:00:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucdTg-00038TC; Sat, 6 Jul 96 12:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "R. Ramey" Subject: HOW do I autoforward incoming email to a new account. 3.91 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 15:56:57 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How can I do this. I need to before 7-7 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00833; Sat, 6 Jul 96 13:25:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14407; Sat, 6 Jul 96 13:24:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from like.duh.iag.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14401; Sat, 6 Jul 96 13:24:27 -0700 Received: from localhost (tv@localhost) by like.duh.ml.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA10258 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 16:23:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: like.duh.ml.org: tv owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 16:23:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Out of his mind X-Sender: tv@like.duh.ml.org To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bounce crash (3.94) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Okay, it's probably been mentioned by now, but just in case it hasn't... Whenever a message operation (read, bounce, forward, reply, etc.) is done immediately after a bounce on some platforms (NetBSD, FreeBSD, and UnixWare all exhibit this behavior), Pine crashes with various signal errors. On NetBSD and FreeBSD, it's often an IOT trap, and on UnixWare, it's always an abort trap. (Why is Pine getting SIGABRT anyway!? Only abort() should raise it...) I can supply truckloads of pine-debug and pine-crash files if necessary; this error I can reproduce time after time. ===== == Todd Vierling (Personal tv@pobox.com; Business tv@iag.net) Amiga lives! == == System administrator/technician, Internet Access Group, Orlando Florida == == Dialups in Orange, Volusia, Lake, Osceola counties - http://www.iag.net == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02375; Sat, 6 Jul 96 15:28:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15636; Sat, 6 Jul 96 15:25:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15630; Sat, 6 Jul 96 15:25:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucfjj-00038TC; Sat, 6 Jul 96 15:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Harris Subject: Killfiles? Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:15:59 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello. I am using version 3.92 of Pine for Unix systems, and I would like to inquire whether there is a killfile feature which I might've overlooked. I would appreciate any assistance this newsgroup could provide. Mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02401; Sat, 6 Jul 96 15:28:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15644; Sat, 6 Jul 96 15:25:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15638; Sat, 6 Jul 96 15:25:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucflZ-00038XC; Sat, 6 Jul 96 15:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jeremy@hiway1.exit109.com (Jeremy) Subject: Re: HOW do I autoforward incoming email to a new account. 3.91 Date: 6 Jul 1996 18:15:49 -0400 Message-Id: <4rmoil$9bs@hiway1.exit109.com> References: [posted and mailed due to the urgency...] gs01rvr@panther.Gsu.EDU (R. Ramey) wrote: >How can I do this. I need to before 7-7 Nothing to do with Pine. Create a file called .forward in your home directory, containing the email address to forward to. -- Jeremy jeremy@exit109.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02426; Sat, 6 Jul 96 15:28:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28966; Sat, 6 Jul 96 15:25:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28960; Sat, 6 Jul 96 15:25:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucfkp-00038WC; Sat, 6 Jul 96 15:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mmouse@common.net (Pauline M. Marshall) Subject: Strange error, can you help? Date: 2 Jul 1996 02:46:59 GMT Message-Id: Hi there, since upgrading our system to Linux 2.0.0, I have been recieving the following error: [New mailbox modification time but apparently no changes] I am running pine 3.93. This error doesn't happen every time. Only every so often. Has anyone else had this happen? What causes this? Should I be worried? Any help would be greatly apprecitated. PS. Please e-mail responces, I don't always get a chance to read news (unfortunally). -- ___ {~._.~} - - - -- --- ---- ----- ----------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - - - _( Y )_ I'm here, I'm awake, I'm dressed... Pauline M. Marshall (:_~*~_:) --= MightyMouse =-- (_)-(_) ... WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?!? mmouse@common.net - - - - - -- --- ---- ----- ----------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - - - From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02618; Sat, 6 Jul 96 15:39:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29084; Sat, 6 Jul 96 15:36:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29078; Sat, 6 Jul 96 15:36:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucfwJ-00038TC; Sat, 6 Jul 96 15:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aa326@freenet.hamilton.on.ca (Matthew Bazoian) Subject: pine print Date: 6 Jul 1996 21:56:33 GMT Message-Id: <4rmneh$1ru@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> Reading a message and on occasion desiring a hard copy I press Y for ansi sys printing .All is well, but it always is followed by a form feed and an extra plain sheet is extruded from printer.This occurs in two BBS sites I happen to use . I have tried several options in Setup printer configuration without success. Btw I have recently changed printers from a Canon bubble jet to a Okidata ol600e ,for unrelated reasons, but the irritation continues.Any help will be appreciated. -- * * ** *********************************** * home (905) 388-4647 * * email bazoian@fhs.csu.mcmaster.ca * * bazoian@freenet.hamilton.on.ca * ******************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03179; Sat, 6 Jul 96 16:08:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16104; Sat, 6 Jul 96 16:06:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16098; Sat, 6 Jul 96 16:06:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucgLe-00038TC; Sat, 6 Jul 96 16:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cheo1@netcom.com (J. Vega) Subject: Pine 3.94 keeps showing read msgs as New Message-Id: Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 17:07:44 GMT Whenever I use pine all the msgs that has been previously read keep showing up as new. ??? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03868; Sat, 6 Jul 96 17:03:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29946; Sat, 6 Jul 96 17:00:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29940; Sat, 6 Jul 96 17:00:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uchEw-00038TC; Sat, 6 Jul 96 16:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Killfiles? Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 19:17:36 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Jim Harris wrote: > Hello. I am using version 3.92 of Pine for Unix systems, and > I would like to inquire whether there is a killfile feature > which I might've overlooked. Sorry (for a lot of us), but Pine does not implement killfiles. For incoming mail, you can use some other program which processes the mail before Pine opens it. On Unix systems, procmail and filter are two often used programs. For newsgroups, we're just out of luck, as far as I know. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04543; Sat, 6 Jul 96 17:41:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17067; Sat, 6 Jul 96 17:40:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17061; Sat, 6 Jul 96 17:40:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uchtG-00038TC; Sat, 6 Jul 96 17:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wriite@soho.ios.com (Bryan H.) Subject: Where to find default .pinerc? Date: 1 Jul 1996 18:00:39 GMT Message-Id: <4r93o7$s54@news.ios.com> My .pinerc was corrupted, so I deleted it. Where might I find a default-set copy, so that I could insert it into my system? Thanks, Bryan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05205; Sat, 6 Jul 96 18:31:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00980; Sat, 6 Jul 96 18:30:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00974; Sat, 6 Jul 96 18:30:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucidl-00038TC; Sat, 6 Jul 96 18:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Pamela Logan Subject: attachment trouble Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:59:22 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I have been trying to attach a gif file to my message. The recipient receives a MIME encoded file that he can successfully unpack, however the resulting "gif" file cannot be read by a gif display program. The error message says that the file is not a proper gif. Comparing the received file with the original shows that they are different sizes, too. What's going on? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05418; Sat, 6 Jul 96 18:46:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17753; Sat, 6 Jul 96 18:45:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17747; Sat, 6 Jul 96 18:45:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucisS-00038TC; Sat, 6 Jul 96 18:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Trouble Viewing Attachment in 3.94 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:42:33 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have run into a problem I have never encountered before. Any suggestions from superior wisdom and experience will be welcome. System: Pine 3.94 under SunOS 4.1.4 (a flavor of Un*x) Config file character-set value: ISO-8859-1 A bit ago I sent an email with a message body to several recipients and also specified an attachment in the email header. Everything looked fine. The attachment was actually plain text with ISO-8859-1 (8-bit European) letters in it. I wanted to send the second file along as an attachment partly because of the 8-bit letters and partly to keep it separate from the main message. After I sent the email, I decided to look at the Fcc, because I have rarely had occasion to use attachments. The only problem is that I cannot view the attachment. If I exit Pine and actually look at the whole mail folder with a text editor, the attachment is there, MIME header and all, in BASE64 format. Back in Pine, from the attachment index screen I can successfully save the attachment as a external file and look at it with an independent text editor, and everything is fine: the file gets converted out of BASE64 into real text, and even the 8-bit letter are intact. The 'A' command from the attachment index screen tells me things about the attachment. For example, it tells me that the attachment is Text/PLAIN, and the Display Method is "shownonascii iso-8859-1 ". However, if I issue the 'V' command actually to view the attachment from within Pine, nothing happens. The "Displaying attachment" message breifly flashes at the bottom of the screen, followed by the message "VIEWER command launched." But nothing happens. No view. Just back to where I was. Anybody else run into something like this and have a solution? Am I missing something in my config, perhaps? Thanks very much. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05669; Sat, 6 Jul 96 19:11:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01421; Sat, 6 Jul 96 19:10:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01415; Sat, 6 Jul 96 19:10:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucjIE-00038TC; Sat, 6 Jul 96 19:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: szrzs077@solaire.mail.uni-kiel.de (Ulrike Lindemann) Subject: Re: change position of included text? Date: 2 Jul 1996 09:10:02 GMT Message-Id: <4rap1a$ers@infosrv.rz.uni-kiel.de> References: <4r8l69$53n@infosrv.rz.uni-kiel.de> >Try looking in Pine's Setup Configuration screen (use the Setup command at >the main menu). Look through the various things you can set (using the >built-in help if necessary). The one of particular interest to you is >"signature-at-bottom". Thank you at Kristian for your fast reply. It works fine except of one little feature: the position of the cursor. The pine help says that the cursor will be positioned after the included text, as I would like it. But it is positioned at the beginning of the included text. What's wrong? Thanks again for your help, Ulrike -- Ulrike Lindemann |\ Lindemann@rz.uni-kiel.de Rechenzentrum der CAU Kiel __| \ Tel: +49-431-880-4660 D-24098 Kiel |__| Fax: -1523 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05682; Sat, 6 Jul 96 19:11:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18036; Sat, 6 Jul 96 19:10:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18030; Sat, 6 Jul 96 19:10:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucjIq-00038WC; Sat, 6 Jul 96 19:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stesch@parsec.inka.de (Stefan Scholl) Subject: 8-bit-encoding without esmtp? Date: 7 Jul 1996 01:57:48 GMT Message-Id: <4rn5is$vci@parsec.inka.de> Moin! I'd like to use "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit" without a positive 8bit-esmtp-negotiation response. And without patching pine. Is there a way? ***Stefan -- ## Stefan Scholl ## ## Besides, it's good to force C programmers to use the toolbox occasionally. :-) --Larry Wall in <1991May31.181659.28817@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05958; Sat, 6 Jul 96 19:32:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01610; Sat, 6 Jul 96 19:30:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01604; Sat, 6 Jul 96 19:30:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucjYW-00038TC; Sat, 6 Jul 96 19:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stonem@netcom.com Subject: MailBombs Message-Id: Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 01:40:03 GMT How do I protect myself against mailbombs. Its seems I've become the target of one of the many ignorant morons who feel power in annoying others. I have heard mention of an automatic killfile ?? And how do i look at the header of the mailbomb without triggering the ansi sequence. If I can find out who this person is I will be emialing his sysadmin. I'm using pine as my primary mail reader. Thanks A mildly annoyed netcom user :) -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07031; Sat, 6 Jul 96 21:08:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19207; Sat, 6 Jul 96 21:07:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19201; Sat, 6 Jul 96 21:07:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucl2k-00038TC; Sat, 6 Jul 96 21:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: cool thing with imap and mailing list archives Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 23:33:25 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII FYI, some mailing list and news group archives are accessible via IMAP. If you're using pine you can add the following to your folder-collections to check out a some IMAP archives: {cyrus.andrew.cmu.edu/anonymous}[] *{imap.mid.net/anonymous}pub/NET/[] The first one includes the IMAP and ACAP mailing list archives. The second one has archives of the net-happenings mailing list. If you know of any other IMAP accessible archives, please let me know. I'd like to collect a list and put it on the Web. Thanks, Nancy PS - Navigator 4 (Galileo) is going to support IMAP. Check out http://www.netscape.com/comprod/at_work/white_paper/intranet/vision.html#galileo From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07247; Sat, 6 Jul 96 21:22:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19357; Sat, 6 Jul 96 21:21:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19351; Sat, 6 Jul 96 21:21:30 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 7 Jul 96 12:25:31 +0800 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 12:19:22 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Pamela Logan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: attachment trouble In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Pamela Logan wrote: > I have been trying to attach a gif file to my message. The recipient > receives a MIME encoded file that he can successfully unpack, > however the resulting "gif" file cannot be read by a gif display program. > The error message says that the file is not a proper gif. Comparing > the received file with the original shows that they are different > sizes, too. What's going on? Try upgrading to ping 3.94. I had a similar problem on a different platform. It disappeared when going from 3.92 to 3.94. Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09448; Sun, 7 Jul 96 00:22:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21108; Sun, 7 Jul 96 00:21:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from info2.info.tampere.fi by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21102; Sun, 7 Jul 96 00:21:31 -0700 Received: from bassie.info.tampere.fi by info2.info.tampere.fi with ESMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA120234191; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:23:11 +0300 Received: from bassie.info.tampere.fi (juhas@bassie.info.tampere.fi [194.188.233.227]) by bassie.info.tampere.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA16330; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:20:07 +0300 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 10:20:07 +0300 (EET DST) From: Juha Suhonen To: "R. Ramey" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HOW do I autoforward incoming email to a new account. 3.91 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, R. Ramey wrote: > Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 15:56:57 -0400 > From: "R. Ramey" > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: HOW do I autoforward incoming email to a new account. 3.91 > > How can I do this. I need to before 7-7 in shell: echo your@new-e-mail-address.com > ~/.forward JuhaS /-----------------------------------------------------\ | J u h a S u h o n e n | | - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - | | juhas@bassie.info.tampere.fi | | http://www.bassie.info.tampere.fi/ | | http://Www.Great.fi/%7Ejuhas/ | \-----------------------------------------------------/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09579; Sun, 7 Jul 96 00:32:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04518; Sun, 7 Jul 96 00:31:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04512; Sun, 7 Jul 96 00:31:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucoHv-00038WC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 00:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Annelise Anderson Subject: Re: Lessons learned...Pine with procmail..:) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 23:19:36 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199607070441.AAA26133@hiway1.exit109.com> On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, Jeremy wrote: > I'm mailing this to you because my news server isn't letting me post > tonight. Thanks. I'm posting it because others may be interested in the answers. > > In comp.mail.pine, you wrote: > > > >Now, pine 3.94's release notes say it's possible to read mail sent > >to other users' mail boxes. I'm thinking of a "user" I create to > >use as an account from which to subscribe to a mailing list; > >alternatively the mail to this user might be sorted by procmail > >into an incoming folder in my home directory. I haven't been able > >to get procmail to do this, the mail still goes to the user to whom > >it was directed in spite of a .forward file and a .procmailrc file > >in that user's home directory. > > What you want to do is either .forward the other user's mail to your > account, and filter it with your .procmailrc in your own directory, or I didn't think of that. That would work too. > use the other user's .procmailrc to forward the mail to your own > address, which isn't as good because then the system has to run This didn't work, but I may have had permissions wrong. > procmail twice. Also, if the other "user" is using a .procmailrc, that > user has to be able to read/execute procmail from your own directory, > or else you have to install it in two places... It's installed on the system--both (all) users have access. What I did, Jeremy, was create an rmail group and put myself--andrsn, the "reading" user--in it, and make the user's mail files that I want to read group-owned by rmail and and group readable. This second user can then have whatever filtering in .procmailrc is appropriate, and I can set up pine in-boxes (in my own account) to read this mail. > > Of course, wouldn't it be better to unsubscribe the other "user" from > the mailing list, and subscribe from your main account? I've got > several mailing lists coming in for me, and I just throw them into > different folders with procmail. That's basically what I do, but I can think of many situations where a human user might want to read the mail sent to a variety of accounts-- e.g., sales@company.com, help@company.com, webmaster@company.com. Or perhaps many human users should be able to read these incoming messages. I set up a "maildrop" account for a user unable to log in (* in password field) --found out user needs a valid shell to get mail. It turned out to be an interesting exercise in ownership and permissions! Thanks for your help-- Annelise From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09818; Sun, 7 Jul 96 00:41:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21304; Sun, 7 Jul 96 00:37:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21298; Sun, 7 Jul 96 00:37:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucoL3-00038TC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 00:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fansari@Linux.berlin.snafu.de (Frank Ansari) Subject: Posting-Test, don't read Date: 7 Jul 1996 09:10:34 +0200 Message-Id: <4rnnta$6a@Linux.berlin.snafu.de> A posting test. -- ------------------------ Frank Ansari fansari@berlin.snafu.de ------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14062; Sun, 7 Jul 96 04:13:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06996; Sun, 7 Jul 96 04:11:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06990; Sun, 7 Jul 96 04:11:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucrg0-00038TC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 04:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: branden@purdue.edu (Branden Robinson) Subject: Re: howdy u all Date: 7 Jul 1996 06:33:41 GMT Message-Id: <4rnlo5$g5q@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <4qub7j$glq@pollux.usc.edu> <4rgp30$4vc@cowee.wcu.edu> In comp.mail.elm Roxanne Howard wrote: : hey ok. looks like i have time after all, how are things with gordys, : i have a lot to tell u so i know that u have the house to yourselve : don't do anything i wouldn't do, i went tubing on saturday and on : thursday i went to this town called ashville u would have loved it it : had a bunch of spiritual shops and on sunday i'm going to this indian : stuff well lots of love from: : Diana Uh huh. -- Optimists believe we live in the best of all | G. Branden Robinson worlds. Pessimists are afraid they're right. | branden@purdue.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15090; Sun, 7 Jul 96 05:13:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24090; Sun, 7 Jul 96 05:12:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24084; Sun, 7 Jul 96 05:12:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucsgg-00038WC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 05:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fansari@berlin.snafu.de (Frank Ansari) Subject: Posting Test, Don't read Date: 7 Jul 1996 14:05:27 +0200 Message-Id: <4ro967$47@berlin.snafu.de> Second test. -- ------------------------ Frank Ansari fansari@berlin.snafu.de ------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15541; Sun, 7 Jul 96 05:48:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07999; Sun, 7 Jul 96 05:47:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07992; Sun, 7 Jul 96 05:47:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uctBA-00038TC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 05:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Notepad for Winsock? Date: 7 Jul 1996 07:47:41 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4p71vh$32m@raven.cybercomm.net> <4phhbc$isk@cortez.its.rpi.edu> <4qa1lv$85q@mother.usf.edu> <4qavcb$49o@bashir.ici.net> <4re17e$ndf@heinlein.k2nesoft.com> jasonh@sjis.com (Jason Haney) writes: >Be aware though that it sometimes screws up your text by inserting new line characters >whenever it feels you need them, column 80 or so. There may be a way to shut that off, but I'm >not sure. You can shut off autowrap using the -w flag, e.g.: pico -w filename On the subject of a "Winsock Notepad" there might be something cool you can do with WinPine and WinPico to edit files that reside on a remote server. You can do it with email messages that are being accessed with IMAP so it seems like you should be able to do it with any ascii file (not necessarily an email message). Maybe we need to wait for ACAP to do this type of thing. Does anyone know any tricks for doing it now? -Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16968; Sun, 7 Jul 96 08:10:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09251; Sun, 7 Jul 96 08:06:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.NL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09239; Sun, 7 Jul 96 08:06:22 -0700 Received: from ciint by ns.NL.net via EUnet id AA18141 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Sun, 7 Jul 1996 17:01:26 +0200 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa28074; 7 Jul 96 16:46 WET Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 15:47:28 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering To: Paul O Bartlett Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Trouble Viewing Attachment in 3.94 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > System: Pine 3.94 under SunOS 4.1.4 (a flavor of Un*x) > Config file character-set value: ISO-8859-1 > > [snip] > > If I exit Pine and actually look at the whole mail folder with a > text editor, the attachment is there, MIME header and all, in BASE64 > format. Back in Pine, from the attachment index screen I can > successfully save the attachment as a external file and look at it with > an independent text editor, and everything is fine: the file gets > converted out of BASE64 into real text, and even the 8-bit letter are > intact. The 'A' command from the attachment index screen tells me > things about the attachment. For example, it tells me that the > attachment is Text/PLAIN, and the Display Method is "shownonascii > iso-8859-1 ". > > However, if I issue the 'V' command actually to view the attachment > from within Pine, nothing happens. The "Displaying attachment" message > breifly flashes at the bottom of the screen, followed by the message > "VIEWER command launched." But nothing happens. No view. Just back to > where I was. > > Anybody else run into something like this and have a solution? Am > I missing something in my config, perhaps? Hi Paul. Maybe you are running into a similar type of problem as I am experiencing. I am trying to help someone out in getting Pine to understand a new MIME type, and created a ~/.mailcap file with an appropriate entry. When I tried to view the attachment with the newly installed viewer, I also saw the "VIEWER command launched" message being displayed without anything else happening. Assuming you also have a mailcap file installed, your problem could very well be identical. If you try long enough you can sometimes view the attachment, but the chances of this happening are slim. Also, if you press View in rapid succession, Pine locks up (did you also noticed this?) When Pine is locked up like that, a check of the running processes sometimes reveals a number of spawned viewers running in the background (all with PPID 1). They never stay around for long, though. When I added the option "needsterminal" for the given attachment in ~/.mailcap, the attachments would always be displayed properly. By the very definition of that option, the attachment is then being displayed outside Pine's standard scrolling text window (do-it-yourself). Perhaps there is a problem with Pine's code that handles the bidirectional pipe to the viewer running in the background. You could try the option needsterminal just mentioned, or uncomment the iso-8859-1 entries from the mailcap file(s) all together. I'm trying to figure out what exactly is going wrong, but I'm a little short on time right now. Just thought the current info might be useful to you. Kind regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | Let me make one thing perfectly clear: | | CI International B.V. Netherlands | I never explain anything! (Mary Poppins)| +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17448; Sun, 7 Jul 96 08:49:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26039; Sun, 7 Jul 96 08:47:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26033; Sun, 7 Jul 96 08:47:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucvyd-00038TC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 08:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Harris Subject: Please Help: Killfile? Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 11:35:15 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is anyone aware of a feature on PINE that will allow a user to create a "killfile", a file which automatically deletes, for example, messages that are crossposted to more than such- and-such-a-number of newsgroups, or from a particular person? I am using Unix Pine 3.92. Thanks, Mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18009; Sun, 7 Jul 96 09:25:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10031; Sun, 7 Jul 96 09:23:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10025; Sun, 7 Jul 96 09:23:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucwah-00038TC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 09:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: conrads@dolphin.neosoft.com (Conrad Sabatier) Subject: Re: Please Help: Killfile? Date: 7 Jul 1996 16:21:03 GMT Message-Id: <4roo5f$3nf@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: In article , Jim Harris wrote: > Is anyone aware of a feature on PINE that will allow a user > to create a "killfile", a file which automatically deletes, > for example, messages that are crossposted to more than such- > and-such-a-number of newsgroups, or from a particular person? You should take a look at trn, rn, nn, slrn, strn. All have an excellent, very flexible killfile facility. Pine is great for mail, but I don't care for it as a newsreader. There are much better tools available for that purpose. BTW, I use trn myself, and make extensive use of the killfile. You can select patterns in *any* field in an article's header, making it easy to kill crossposts, and even *references* to people you don't like. trn also has the advantage over Pine in that it does true article threading, making it easy to follow the flow of a discussion. Try it! You'll like it! -- Conrad Sabatier -- http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18526; Sun, 7 Jul 96 09:59:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26750; Sun, 7 Jul 96 09:57:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26744; Sun, 7 Jul 96 09:57:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucx9C-00038TC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 09:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: Re: listserv capabilities In-Reply-To: <4rok8l$hhc@news.smart.net> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 16:53:12 GMT On 7 Jul 1996 rsnell@smart.net wrote: > Forgive me for my ignorance but is it at all possible to > configure pine to act like a listserver? I think you've misunderstood what PINE is. When the user executes it, it retrieves mail from a mail server, and displays that mail to the user, and allows the user to save it into folders, forward it, reply to it etc. When the user is not executing it, it's incapable of doing anything. > For instance, > I am familiar with majordomo for macintosh. Someone sends > mail to the listserver But nobody does send mail to PINE. They address mail to a user at a mail domain, and the mail transfer agents pass it to a destination mail server. Then a user executes a mail client application such as PINE, and PINE retrieves mail from the mail server, and presents it to the user. Why would you suppose the people went to the trouble of writing listservers or majordomo, if PINE could do this? If you want to forward mail in your absence (vacation facility) or have mail to a given address exploded into a distribution list, then you'd want to use a facility associated with the mail server, that is active all the time. PINE (the client program that you execute intermittently) plays no part in that. > If this cannot work, does anyone have any other suggestions? As far as I can see, we don't know enough about your circumstances to be able to give specific advice. Contact the user support or sysadmin of the mail server that you use. Note that managing a mailing list is a nontrivial activity. It's far too easy for simple-minded mail exploders to field non-delivery reports and redistribute those to the list, provoking further non-delivery reports and redistributing those, leading to server meltdown and considerable user frustration. Don't try the d-i-y approach. > Please respond to me at rsnell@smart.net. This is usenet. If you're sufficiently interested in the answer you'll read the group. If you aren't sufficiently interested, there may be other readers who'd like to know the answer anyway. On the usenet group news.announce.newusers you will find some helpful notes on how to work together with the usenet community, you'll get better results that way. Good luck. best regards From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19317; Sun, 7 Jul 96 10:40:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10923; Sun, 7 Jul 96 10:38:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10917; Sun, 7 Jul 96 10:38:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucxkV-00038TC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 10:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: allbell@lys.vnet.net (Al Bell) Subject: mailing list privacy Date: 7 Jul 1996 00:47:18 -0400 Message-Id: <4rnfgm$238@lys.vnet.net> Mailing List Privacy: I want to send information to a mailing list of about 40 people. But I want to be the only one who can see the names and addresses on the list. I don't want the list to be public. Is there a way to ensure that the only address the recipient will be able to see is the recipient's? -- Al Bell's Bell Jar - http://www.vnet.net/users/allbell/belljar.html "I'm just crazy about it." - Sylvia Plath Featuring: "Terror at 30 Rock (or: The Peacock Had Fangs)" allbell@vnet.net allbell@delphi.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19573; Sun, 7 Jul 96 10:52:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11076; Sun, 7 Jul 96 10:49:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11070; Sun, 7 Jul 96 10:49:01 -0700 Received: from localhost (sf3ui@localhost) by scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA07543 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 13:47:25 -0400 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 13:47:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Sandy Walker X-Sender: sf3ui@scfn To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am currently using HyperTerminal on Windows 95 for email transmission into the I hope this prints out what just happened after the into____ This is the type of bugs that keep occuring in the system. I do not know if it is me of the freenet. Right now I am having to do hard returns instead of letting the system wrap around since it started just now the jiberish of the current second line of the message after trying to wrap itself around. Another problem I am having is that my nicknames are not functioning. I have only three at this time, but when I put the nicknames in and then composed and sent two emails, the system put the messages into a folder o of mail sent to me. So I had to go in and say forward these two emails and type in the entire address for both emails before I could get it to send. Help!! Sandy Walker voice: 661-6968 fax: 689-1439 Work: 685-9332 email: sf3ui@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us Thank you. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20860; Sun, 7 Jul 96 12:15:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12099; Sun, 7 Jul 96 12:13:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12093; Sun, 7 Jul 96 12:13:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uczG3-00038TC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 12:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andreas@klemm.gtn.com (Andreas Klemm) Subject: Re: nice pgp and pine interface? Date: 7 Jul 1996 12:48:33 GMT Message-Id: <4robn1$ov@klemm.gtn.com> References: <4rbst0$p9n@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <4rbst0$p9n@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu>, sbaillar@attila.stevens-tech.edu (Songkun Baillargeon) writes: > s there a nice PGP and Pine interface or do I have to keep saving and > blah blah blah??? PinePGP, ask kujawa@montana.com -- andreas@klemm.gtn.com /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ Support Unix -- andreas.klemm@wup.de pgp p-key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html >>> powered by <<< ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz >>> FreeBSD <<< From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22649; Sun, 7 Jul 96 14:14:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29691; Sun, 7 Jul 96 14:13:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29685; Sun, 7 Jul 96 14:13:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ud17F-00038WC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 14:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sami Tikka Subject: Re: Netscape and pine Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 23:54:53 -0200 Message-Id: <31E06A6C.3058@research.nokia.com> References: <4reeqo$l1t@sparky.nce.usace.army.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike Brudenell wrote: > > If you only have access to mail through an IMAP sverver you can't > (Navigator doesn't support IMAP). This could change in the near future. Somewhere on the Netscape WWW server I saw a message saying Navigator will support IMAP at Q3 release. This would definitely be a cool thing... Sami From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22844; Sun, 7 Jul 96 14:26:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13555; Sun, 7 Jul 96 14:24:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13549; Sun, 7 Jul 96 14:24:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ud1I4-00038YC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 14:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dkessler@primenet.com (Dennis Kessler) Subject: Re: marking text on a Mac? Date: 7 Jul 1996 14:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: References: <4rp8a2$kn1@milo.vcn.bc.ca> sgar@vcn.bc.ca (Sloan Garrett) did write: > Please excuse me if this question has been posted a million times, but > something's always bugged me about Pine. The command for placing a mark > for editing text is ^^, or control-shift-6 on my LCIII, running System > 7.1. Of course it's never worked. Is there a key combination that would, > or is the hardware simply not compatible? > > All other editor commands work for me, except ^@ or ^[SPACE] either of which > are supposed to advance the cursor one word. > > / / > / \~ sgar@vcn.bc.ca I believe it's "esc-esc" then ^. I know it begins with "esc-esc". Dennis Kessler http://www.primenet.com/~dkessler From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23842; Sun, 7 Jul 96 15:44:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14435; Sun, 7 Jul 96 15:43:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14429; Sun, 7 Jul 96 15:43:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ud2XL-00038WC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 15:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sgar@vcn.bc.ca (Sloan Garrett) Subject: marking text on a Mac? Date: 7 Jul 1996 20:56:34 GMT Message-Id: <4rp8a2$kn1@milo.vcn.bc.ca> Please excuse me if this question has been posted a million times, but something's always bugged me about Pine. The command for placing a mark for editing text is ^^, or control-shift-6 on my LCIII, running System 7.1. Of course it's never worked. Is there a key combination that would, or is the hardware simply not compatible? All other editor commands work for me, except ^@ or ^[SPACE] either of which are supposed to advance the cursor one word. / / / \~ sgar@vcn.bc.ca From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23876; Sun, 7 Jul 96 15:46:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00699; Sun, 7 Jul 96 15:43:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00693; Sun, 7 Jul 96 15:43:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ud2XA-00038TC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 15:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: mailing list privacy Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 16:55:30 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4rnfgm$238@lys.vnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4rnfgm$238@lys.vnet.net> On 7 Jul 1996, Al Bell wrote: > Mailing List Privacy: > > I want to send information to a mailing list of about 40 people. But I > want to be the only one who can see the names and addresses on the list. > I don't want the list to be public. > > Is there a way to ensure that the only address the recipient will be able > to see is the recipient's? Make sure your version of Pine is current (3.94). Use the Lcc: feature in the mail headers. (There are online help screens, as with most of Pine's features.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24224; Sun, 7 Jul 96 16:10:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00974; Sun, 7 Jul 96 16:09:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00968; Sun, 7 Jul 96 16:09:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ud2ry-00038TC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 16:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: laker@netcom.com (Pagemaster) Subject: Redirect, killfile, auto messages, etc. Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 22:46:36 GMT Message-Id: I was wondering how you do several different things in Pine 3.91 & 3.92 First, how do you redirect mail that was sent to you by accident? What is the command? Second, what is the file or command to set up a auto-reply to incomming message? Third, how do you set up a kill file so that pine auto deletes any messages from a particular person or newsgroup? Come experience the power of the Nexis: The Nexis has moved to: "http://www.alliance.net/~nexis/nexis-index.html" *********************************************************** The Chef's Corner: The best site on the internet for food! ********* Now located at: ***************** http://www.alliance.net/~nexis/cooks.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25144; Sun, 7 Jul 96 17:04:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01569; Sun, 7 Jul 96 17:03:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01563; Sun, 7 Jul 96 17:03:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ud3ll-00038WC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 17:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: laker@netcom.com (Pagemaster) Subject: BCC Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 22:53:01 GMT Message-Id: Oh, forgot one thing... How do you get pine to display the recipients name in the TO: line instead of TO: Undisclosed recipients when you mail to a mailing list and use the BCC line to hide the rest of the address' I want it to look like this when the person recieved it: TO : John Doe FROM : Pagemaster SUBJECT: Club posting Right now all I get is something that looks like this: TO : Undisclosed recipients FROM : Pagemaster SUBJECT: Club posting Is there a way to change this? Come experience the power of the Nexis: The Nexis has moved to: "http://www.alliance.net/~nexis/nexis-index.html" *********************************************************** The Chef's Corner: The best site on the internet for food! ********* Now located at: ***************** http://www.alliance.net/~nexis/cooks.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25157; Sun, 7 Jul 96 17:04:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15284; Sun, 7 Jul 96 17:03:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15278; Sun, 7 Jul 96 17:03:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ud3kl-00038TC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 17:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: AL Subject: HELP! Attachment. Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 21:24:20 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am having trouble locating my disk file that I want to ATTACH. When in the Composer, and I pressed Ctrl-J to specify the Pine can't find the file. It says no such file. I am using Windows 95. What did I do wrong? Please advise. Thanks. AL P.S. I am getting 2 extra linefeeds between paragraphs, putting a big gap between paras. How do I prevent it from doing this? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25738; Sun, 7 Jul 96 17:44:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02014; Sun, 7 Jul 96 17:42:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from chuma.cas.usf.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02008; Sun, 7 Jul 96 17:42:47 -0700 Received: from localhost (aharris@localhost) by chuma.cas.usf.edu (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA13272; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 20:39:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 20:39:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Jasmine X-Sender: aharris@chuma To: Local Support Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Concerned Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To whom it may concern: I have this problem with my account. I have not been in my account for a couple weeks and when I checked my mail I found that someone has gotten into my account. No one has my password. Someone has erased most of my messages saved from May and June and erased some of my addresses. These things are very important to me and very hard to come by. I would appreciate any help to my dilemma. Thank you for your time and effort. Sincerely, Annastacia Harris From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26035; Sun, 7 Jul 96 18:00:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15905; Sun, 7 Jul 96 17:59:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15895; Sun, 7 Jul 96 17:58:58 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 8 Jul 96 09:03:06 +0800 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 08:56:55 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Jasmine Cc: Local Support , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Concerned In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, Jasmine wrote: > To whom it may concern: > I have this problem with my account. I have not been in my > account for a couple weeks and when I checked my mail I found that someone > has gotten into my account. No one has my password. Someone has erased > most of my messages saved from May and June and erased some of my > addresses. These things are very important to me and very hard to come > by. I would appreciate any help to my dilemma. Thank you for your time > and effort. There was no need to copy the pine group about your situation. The group is for discussion of problems related specifically to the pine user agent. With luck your postmaster will be able to help you. Regrads, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26480; Sun, 7 Jul 96 18:28:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02523; Sun, 7 Jul 96 18:26:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.bcpl.lib.md.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02517; Sun, 7 Jul 96 18:26:30 -0700 Received: from localhost by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA27747; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:27:13 +0500 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:27:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip Old X-Sender: fold@mail To: "List (pine-info)" Subject: Re: marking text on a Mac? In-Reply-To: <4rp8a2$kn1@milo.vcn.bc.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1102 On 7 Jul 1996, Sloan Garrett wrote: > Please excuse me if this question has been posted a million times, but > something's always bugged me about Pine. The command for placing a mark > for editing text is ^^, or control-shift-6 on my LCIII, running System > 7.1. Of course it's never worked. Is there a key combination that would, > or is the hardware simply not compatible? > > All other editor commands work for me, except ^@ or ^[SPACE] either of which > are supposed to advance the cursor one word. What software are you using on your Mac when you access Pine? If it's NCSA Telnet, make sure you have the latest version (2.7b4). Among other things, 2.7b4 fixes both of the problems you described. In the mean time, use "ESC ESC ^" instead of "Ctrl-^" to set a marker. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Administrator, Internetworking Services Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 U.S.A. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28274; Sun, 7 Jul 96 20:51:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17751; Sun, 7 Jul 96 20:50:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from burlco-00.burlco.lib.nj.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17745; Sun, 7 Jul 96 20:50:12 -0700 Received: from localhost (rcummins@localhost) by burlco-00.burlco.lib.nj.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA21650 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:50:11 -0400 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:50:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Ray Cummins Reply-To: Ray Cummins To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: scrolling in index Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I really like Pine. But I would like to know why Pine is smart about scrolling through message text (deletes one line at the top or bottom of the text and fills in the line that opens up at the bottom or top), and at the same time stupid about scrolling through the index (apparently redrawing every line). Seems to me it's done this since at least 3.91. /------------------------------------------------------------\ |Ray Cummins, Systems Specialist | Tel: (609) 267-9660 x3032 | |Burlington County Library | Fax: (609) 267-4091 | |5 Pioneer Blvd. | | |Westampton, NJ 08060 | rcummins@burlco.lib.nj.us | \------------------------------------------------------------/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29252; Sun, 7 Jul 96 21:57:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04628; Sun, 7 Jul 96 21:56:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from info2.info.tampere.fi by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04622; Sun, 7 Jul 96 21:56:01 -0700 Received: from bassie.info.tampere.fi by info2.info.tampere.fi with ESMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA128581862; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 07:57:42 +0300 Received: from bassie.info.tampere.fi (juhas@bassie.info.tampere.fi [194.188.233.227]) by bassie.info.tampere.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA28398; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 07:54:26 +0300 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 07:54:26 +0300 (EET DST) From: Juha Suhonen To: Pagemaster Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Redirect, killfile, auto messages, etc. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, Pagemaster wrote: > Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 22:46:36 GMT > From: Pagemaster > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Redirect, killfile, auto messages, etc. > > I was wondering how you do several different things in Pine 3.91 & 3.92 > > First, how do you redirect mail that was sent to you by accident? What is > the command? >From the configuration, select enable-bounce-cmd (or something like it..) Then you press B in the INDEX, on top of the message you wish to bounce. > Second, what is the file or command to set up a auto-reply to incomming > message? Not exactly a pine matter, but vacation could be a good start.. "man vacation" . > Third, how do you set up a kill file so that pine auto deletes any messages > from a particular person or newsgroup? Pine doesn't support killfiles (atleast according to my info). JuhaS From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00298; Sun, 7 Jul 96 23:15:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19295; Sun, 7 Jul 96 23:14:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19289; Sun, 7 Jul 96 23:14:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ud9Wd-00038WC; Sun, 7 Jul 96 23:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Secross Subject: My Cursor & following text seems to dissapear. Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:06:19 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The sysadmin upgraded to a newer version of pine, Now when i wan't to run something in the background my cursor on my home machine dissapears and so does the text after that even when i try to type something. The text is echoing, Becuase when i look at the scrollback i can see the commands and text that i type. I have a shell account wich i use from home. I am also using Ncomm for a term program on my Amiga. My theory is there are some control characters that are somehow turning the cursor color to the background color. This happens more often than not, And is getting very annoying. My sysadmin blames my term program, As he connot duplicate the problem. Any way that i can find out where this problem is coming from? Is it from pine or settings in SOLARIS? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Secross@Whidbey.com Clinton, Washington -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00788; Sun, 7 Jul 96 23:34:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19522; Sun, 7 Jul 96 23:31:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lepton.startext.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19516; Sun, 7 Jul 96 23:31:46 -0700 Received: (from norma@localhost) by lepton.startext.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) id BAA24465; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 01:33:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 01:33:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199607080633.BAA24465@lepton.startext.net> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Url: mailto:pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2-4-2 X-Personal_Name: norma lamothe From: 3124.6th.Ave.Fort.Worth.Tx.76110.norma@StarText.NET Subject: help please I have Pine E-Mail and when I try to get into it, it locks up on me. The top of the page at the main menu says (mail closed.) At the bottom it says (opening inbox) but nothing is happening. I was on it in January and February but had to leave the internet for a while. When I got back on last week I could not get into the mail or news group. I asked StarText but they don't understand what is happening either. Thanks for your help. Norma Lamothe 3124 6th Ave Fort Worth Tx 76110 (when it works) norma@startext.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01639; Mon, 8 Jul 96 00:34:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06275; Mon, 8 Jul 96 00:29:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06269; Mon, 8 Jul 96 00:29:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udAgO-00038BC; Mon, 8 Jul 96 00:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jeff nunner Subject: Re: Userdb and new news. Message-Id: Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:13:18 EDT References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Rafael del Valle wrote: > In the other hand: > > How can i make Pine to show me only new news or unreaded ones? > > Thanks in advance. > Yeah, I'd also like to know how to configure Pine to get to show me only new news items in the Folder List (if possible)... somebody please post back and tell us an answer, even if it is "no"... TIA! Jeff From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06572; Mon, 8 Jul 96 04:05:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22400; Mon, 8 Jul 96 04:00:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail-gw.t-mi.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22394; Mon, 8 Jul 96 04:00:07 -0700 Received: from t-mi.com (162.11.100.51) by mail-gw.t-mi.com (Integralis SMTPRS 1.4) with SMTP id ; Mon, 08 Jul 1996 11:49:56 +0100 Received: from sparc14 by t-mi.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA04352; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:57:33 +0100 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:57:33 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford Wesley Fulford X-Sender: clifford@sparc14 To: Out of his mind Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Bounce crash (3.94) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm getting this on SunOS4.1.3.U1 too. On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Out of his mind wrote: > Okay, it's probably been mentioned by now, but just in case it hasn't... > > Whenever a message operation (read, bounce, forward, reply, etc.) is done > immediately after a bounce on some platforms (NetBSD, FreeBSD, and UnixWare > all exhibit this behavior), Pine crashes with various signal errors. On Clifford Wesley Fulford CBF-International Currently at Tokyo-Mitsubishi. E-mail clifford@t-mi.com clifford@cix.compulink.co.uk Telephone 0(44)181-986-5239 0(44)171-577-2741 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06642; Mon, 8 Jul 96 04:08:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22590; Mon, 8 Jul 96 04:04:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22584; Mon, 8 Jul 96 04:04:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udE6Y-00038BC; Mon, 8 Jul 96 04:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rsnell@smart.net Subject: listserv capabilities Date: 7 Jul 1996 15:14:29 GMT Message-Id: <4rok8l$hhc@news.smart.net> Forgive me for my ignorance but is it at all possible to configure pine to act like a listserver? For instance, I am familiar with majordomo for macintosh. Someone sends mail to the listserver and then mail is distributed to everyone on the list. This is basically what I'm after. I am using pine in the unix shell of my ISP. If this cannot work, does anyone have any other suggestions? Please respond to me at rsnell@smart.net. Thank you in advance. Sincerely, Robert Snell From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07219; Mon, 8 Jul 96 04:36:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23020; Mon, 8 Jul 96 04:31:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc1.nerc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23014; Mon, 8 Jul 96 04:31:07 -0700 Received: from nerc.com ([205.247.120.231]) by nerc1.nerc.com (8.6.9/8.6.7) with ESMTP id HAA16661 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 07:31:24 -0400 Received: (from luomat@localhost) by nerc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA10871 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 07:31:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607081131.HAA10871@nerc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.3) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Mon, 8 Jul 96 07:30:58 -0400 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Initial keystroke: go to newsgroups Reply-To: luomat@nerc.com Hiya I'm using PINE to access an NNTP server on a different machine via PPP. It works quite well, except that I've got to manually get to the newsgroups section (g,contol-p,name.of.newsgroup,enter). I'd like to setup an 'initial keystrokes' list which will get me to the first newsgroup automatically. Anyone know how this can be done? TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma NeXTMail adored! (MIME/SUN also accepted) NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info Now in infancy: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08116; Mon, 8 Jul 96 05:18:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09593; Mon, 8 Jul 96 05:11:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ursa.cus.cam.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09587; Mon, 8 Jul 96 05:11:23 -0700 Received: from cus.cam.ac.uk [131.111.10.53] by ursa.cus.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 0.53 #6) id E0udF8g-0003j2-00; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 13:10:06 +0100 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 13:09:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Barry Landy Reply-To: Barry Landy To: Michael Seibel Cc: David Nugent , Robin Walker , Pine Info List Subject: ISO to CP translation in Pine 394 Message-Id: X-X-Sender: bl10@imap.cus.cam.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE There seems to be a bug in the behaviour of the translation of ISO-8859-1 to PC code pages.=20 The technical notes specify as follows: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 In the case of PC-Pine, the character values cannot be passed through to the display device unaltered since MS-DOS uses various non-standard character sets called "Code Pages". =20 The mapping between DOS Code Page and standard character set is controlled by the "character-set" variable in the PINERC file and the PC's installed Code Page. PC-Pine will automatically map common characters in IBM Code Pages 437, 850, 860, 863, and 865 to ISO-8859-1 and back when the PINERC has "character-set=3DISO-8859-1". Pine will also map common characters for IBM Code Page 866 to ISO-8859-5 and back when "character-set=3DISO-8859-5". The mappings are bi-directional, and applied to all saved text attachments in the defined character set, messages exported, etc. =20 Alternatively, the translation tables can be configured externally and applied at run time whenever the "character-set=3D" variable is set to something other then "US-ASCII" (the default). PC-Pine looks in the text file pointed to by the environment variable "ISO_TO_CP" for the table to use for mapping text matching the type defined by the "character-set=3D" variable into the local Code Page value. PC-Pine looks in the text file pointed to by the environment variable "CP_TO_ISO" for the table to use for mapping text in the local Code Page into outbound text tagged with the "character-set=3D" variable's value. =20 A text file containing a character set mapping table is expected to contain 256 elements where each element is a decimal number separated from the next element by white-space (space, tab or newline, but no commas!). The index of the element is the character's value in the source character set, and the element's value is the corresponding character's value in the destination character set.=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20 I have sent myself a trial message contain a few pound signs. I have tried displaying it in various versions of Pine (OS2 391 or 394, PC-WAT 391/394) with or without the ISO_TO_CP settings. I get the following results, where "No ISOTOCP" means what it says, "X<->X" means an ISOTOCP setting mapping all characters onto themselves, and "163->156" means an ISOTOCP table which maps 163 onto 156, and all other chacaters=20 onto themselves. Note that 163 is pound in 8859-1 and 156 is pound in CP850/CP437, whereas u-acute is 163 in CP850/CP437. "163-65" maps 163 onto 65 and leaves all others alone (65 is A). 394 WAT 391 WAT 394 OS2 394 WIN No ISOTOCP ? pound u-acute pound X<->X u-acute u-acute u-acute pound 163->156 ? pound u-acute ? 163->65 A A u-acute A To check that the SET variables influence the OS/2 port at all, I experimented with the other direction (CP_TO_ISO). With an X<->X table, pound is translated (bizarrely?) as ^blob (where by blob I mean a black square); with a 156-163 table, pound becomes 163 (displayed as u-acute). The details dont matter; the fact there is a change means that Pine is noticing the CPTOISO table. The following problems are evident:=20 a) The OS2 port is not honouring the promise to translate to the codepage, and is not reading ISO_TO_CP b) The WAT port isnot getting the ISO to CP right, and is outputting ? for =A3 (I dont know where that ? comes from!) c) I dont understand why forcing 163-> 156 causes a ? out of 394Win and 394WAT, but gets a pound from 391WAT. (The W16 port of 394 gets the output of pound right, but Windows is defined as using a mapping of 8859-1 (Windows code page 1252)) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 1223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08571; Mon, 8 Jul 96 05:47:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09989; Mon, 8 Jul 96 05:43:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasmd01.vsnl.net.in by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09983; Mon, 8 Jul 96 05:43:28 -0700 Received: by giasmd01.vsnl.net.in; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/23Apr96-0408PM) id AA21097; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:15:25 GMT Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:15:25 +0000 (GMT) From: "R.DILIP KUMAR." To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help! A small doubt Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have been pine for only a few days. I want to know something. How do I compose a mail offline? I tried doing it by composing it in a text editor and then sending it as an attachment. But my friend at the receiving end tells me that the attachment arrives as a jumble of ascii characters. Is it possible to compose a message offline and then induct it into the message body once I get connected to the Internet? Kindly help me out. DILIP From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09327; Mon, 8 Jul 96 06:34:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24368; Mon, 8 Jul 96 06:28:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24362; Mon, 8 Jul 96 06:28:48 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 8 Jul 96 21:32:49 +0800 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:26:36 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "R.DILIP KUMAR." Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help! A small doubt In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, R.DILIP KUMAR. wrote: > I have been pine for only a few days. > I want to know something. How do I compose a mail offline? I tried > doing it by composing it in a text editor and then sending it as an > attachment. But my friend at the receiving end tells me that the > attachment arrives as a jumble of ascii characters. > > Is it possible to compose a message offline and then induct it into the > message body once I get connected to the Internet? > You do as you have done....except you don't send the output of your text editor as an attachment but you read it into the body by use of ^R (Control-R) Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09658; Mon, 8 Jul 96 06:46:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10687; Mon, 8 Jul 96 06:42:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10681; Mon, 8 Jul 96 06:41:33 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA10441; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:35:43 +0200 (METDST) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:35:43 +0200 (METDST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= {Vladimir Solnicky} Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bc=2E_Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: "R.DILIP KUMAR." Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help! A small doubt In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?stav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_=28=DATIA?= =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=29_AV_=C8R?= Disposition-Notification-To: vs+disposition@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, R.DILIP KUMAR. wrote: > Is it possible to compose a message offline and then induct it into the= =20 > message body once I get connected to the Internet? Yes. Use the ^R (CTRL and R pressed together) command to be prompted for file name being imported into the message body -- move the cursor to a required possition of text before this. Regards, V. S. Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD, =DATIA AV =C8R, Pod vod=E1renskou v=EC=BE=ED 4, 182 08 Praha 8-Libe=F2, +42 2 6605/2364, telefax: +42 2 6884677, vs@utia.cas.cz, http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-cz.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09907; Mon, 8 Jul 96 07:00:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10806; Mon, 8 Jul 96 06:50:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10800; Mon, 8 Jul 96 06:50:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udGg2-00038TC; Mon, 8 Jul 96 06:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jie.yuan@uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: marking text on a Mac? Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 08:39:56 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4rp8a2$kn1@milo.vcn.bc.ca> In article <4rp8a2$kn1@milo.vcn.bc.ca>, sgar@vcn.bc.ca (Sloan Garrett) wrote: > Please excuse me if this question has been posted a million times, but > something's always bugged me about Pine. The command for placing a mark > for editing text is ^^, or control-shift-6 on my LCIII, running System > 7.1. Of course it's never worked. Is there a key combination that would, > or is the hardware simply not compatible? > > All other editor commands work for me, except ^@ or ^[SPACE] either of which > are supposed to advance the cursor one word. > > / / > / \~ sgar@vcn.bc.ca As other netters said, it depends on which terminal emulation software you use. If you use Comet from the Cornell U., you simply hold down the control key while typing the 6 key (no shift). I use this same key combination on hard-wired VT100 terminal, SGI terminal, and in Comet. Comet is available from info-mac and is a freeware. Jie --Jie Yuan - Pharmacology & Cell Biophysics - U. Cincinnati -- --POBox 670575, 231 Bethesda Av., Cincinnati, OH 45267-0575 -- --jie.yuan@uc.edu - http://www.uc.edu/~yuanj From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11853; Mon, 8 Jul 96 08:24:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26234; Mon, 8 Jul 96 08:20:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26228; Mon, 8 Jul 96 08:20:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udI5X-00038BC; Mon, 8 Jul 96 08:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Restricted mailer under UNIX Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:18:01 +0000 Message-Id: References: <4rr402$6gn@hera.cuci.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4rr402$6gn@hera.cuci.nl> The short answer is yes. Pine provides (via pine.conf.fixed) the ability to forbid all the ways to escape to a shell (via, say, an alternate editor). Of course, you have to do a lot more that just lock the doors in the mailer, you also have to provide a restricted shell system. On 8 Jul 1996, Stephen R. van den Berg wrote: :>Is Pine fit to be used as a restricted-shell mailer under UNIX? :>Meaning, can it be configured to provide a 'secure' environment in which :>no external programs or files can be started or viewed? :> :>Any other mailer that might be eligible? Elm? :>-- :>Sincerely, srb@cuci.nl :> Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless). :> :>Are they twins? Yes. Are they *both* yours? :> :> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 1223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12623; Mon, 8 Jul 96 08:44:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12650; Mon, 8 Jul 96 08:35:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12644; Mon, 8 Jul 96 08:35:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udIH1-00038BC; Mon, 8 Jul 96 08:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "ELEX.Yury. Burkatovsky" Subject: Re: Userdb and new news. Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:09:14 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: Mime-Version: 1.0 On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, jeff nunner wrote: > > > On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Rafael del Valle wrote: > > > In the other hand: > > > > How can i make Pine to show me only new news or unreaded ones? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > Set up the news-approximates-new-status feature at your Main Setup Config screen. Pine will set news status according to the contents of the default .newsrc file (I mean Unix; if you use another environment, the name of the file may vary :) Here is the captured help screen about FEATURE: news-approximates-new-status This feature causes certain messages to be marked as "New" in the Folder Index of news groups. When opening a news group, Pine will consult your "newsrc" file and determine the last message you have previously disposed of via the "D" key. If this feature is set, any subsequent messages will be shown in the Index with an "N", and the first of these messages will be highlighted. Although this is only an approximation of true "New" or "unseen" status, it provides a useful cue to distinguish more-or-less recent messages from those you have seen previously, but are not yet ready to mark deleted. Background: your "newsrc" file (used to store message status information for news groups) is only capable of storing a single flag, and Pine uses this to record whether or not you are "done with" a message, as indicated by marking the message as "Deleted". Unfortunately, this means that Pine has no way to record exactly which messages you have previously seen, so it normally does not show the "N" status flag for any messages in a news group. This feature enables a starting *approximation* of seen/unseen status that may be useful. -- Regards, | /^^^\ Yury Burkatovsky | (| , , |) | | * | E-mail: tby@cpm.telrad.co.il | \_-_/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14087; Mon, 8 Jul 96 09:09:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27531; Mon, 8 Jul 96 09:07:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27525; Mon, 8 Jul 96 09:07:29 -0700 Received: (from shilpa@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) id VAA03592; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:34:44 +0530 (IST) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:34:43 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: Dr Shilpa Pratap To: Pine Information List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16760; Mon, 8 Jul 96 10:02:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29203; Mon, 8 Jul 96 09:58:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29197; Mon, 8 Jul 96 09:58:32 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23406; Mon, 8 Jul 96 09:58:29 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:58:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Paul O Bartlett Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Trouble Viewing Attachment in 3.94 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Paul, The symptoms you describe suggest that Pine has found an entry in your system mailcap file for text/plain charset=8859-1, and is attempting to invoke the program specified in the mailcap file, "shownonascii". I'm guessing that you are not using an X terminal at the moment, and since "shownonascii" is an X-11 program, it might be having trouble talking to your display. :) In looking into this, Mike S. actually found a real bug in the testing of mailcap entry parameters (which will be fixed in 3.95), but I think the above explanation covers your situation. Your choices include: removing the text/plain mailcap entry, changing it to invoke some other program, changing it to test for a DISPLAY variable so it only invokes "shownonascii" if you are using X. -teg On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > I have run into a problem I have never encountered before. Any > suggestions from superior wisdom and experience will be welcome. > > System: Pine 3.94 under SunOS 4.1.4 (a flavor of Un*x) > Config file character-set value: ISO-8859-1 > > A bit ago I sent an email with a message body to several recipients > and also specified an attachment in the email header. Everything > looked fine. The attachment was actually plain text with ISO-8859-1 > (8-bit European) letters in it. I wanted to send the second file along > as an attachment partly because of the 8-bit letters and partly to keep > it separate from the main message. > > After I sent the email, I decided to look at the Fcc, because I > have rarely had occasion to use attachments. The only problem is that > I cannot view the attachment. > > If I exit Pine and actually look at the whole mail folder with a > text editor, the attachment is there, MIME header and all, in BASE64 > format. Back in Pine, from the attachment index screen I can > successfully save the attachment as a external file and look at it with > an independent text editor, and everything is fine: the file gets > converted out of BASE64 into real text, and even the 8-bit letter are > intact. The 'A' command from the attachment index screen tells me > things about the attachment. For example, it tells me that the > attachment is Text/PLAIN, and the Display Method is "shownonascii > iso-8859-1 ". > > However, if I issue the 'V' command actually to view the attachment > from within Pine, nothing happens. The "Displaying attachment" message > breifly flashes at the bottom of the screen, followed by the message > "VIEWER command launched." But nothing happens. No view. Just back to > where I was. > > Anybody else run into something like this and have a solution? Am > I missing something in my config, perhaps? > > Thanks very much. > Paul > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA > Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key > Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18194; Mon, 8 Jul 96 10:33:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16051; Mon, 8 Jul 96 10:28:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jade.saintmarys.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16045; Mon, 8 Jul 96 10:28:10 -0700 Received: from localhost by jade.saintmarys.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA067057141; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:32:21 -0500 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:32:21 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Mandell Reply-To: Dan Mandell To: "pine-info@cac.washington.edu" Subject: Bug (ID JH8NQ): Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1790645121-1594243340-836846413=:3234" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1790645121-1594243340-836846413=:3234 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: We have been using pine 3.94 for several weeks, and experience occasional and unpredictable delays in sending messages, at times when system load on our hpux system is quite light. After pressing ^X, the status line displays something like "sending mail | 100%" for 70-90 seconds before responding to key presses. I don't recall seeing these delays with 3.92. Suggestions? -- Dan Mandell, Computer Services, Saint Mary's College Internet: dmandell@saintmarys.edu ...Cyberspace is to America in the late twentieth century what the frontier was to America in the nineteenth century.. N. Myhrvold, Microsoft --1790645121-1594243340-836846413=:3234 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data Pine built Fri Jun 21 09:52:40 EST 1996 on host: jade ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = dmandell, full = Dan Mandell home = /users/dmandell home_dir= /users/dmandell hostname= jade.saintmarys.edu localdom= saintmarys.edu userdom= saintmarys.edu maildom= saintmarys.edu cur_cntxt= mail/[] cur_fldr= sent-mail actual mbox= /users/dmandell/mail/sent-mail msgmap: tot=196, cur=184, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival actual inbox= /usr/mail/dmandell inbox map: tot=204, cur=197, del=8, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival term type=xterm, ttyname=/dev/ttypb, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Dan Mandell user-id : dmandell user-domain : saintmarys.edu nntp-server : News *[*] inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : mail/[] news-collections : *{News *[*]/nntp}[] default-fcc : sent-mail default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature global-address-book : /usr/local/lib/.addressbook address-book : .addressbook feature-list : enable-bounce-cmd : auto-open-next-unread : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expanded-view-of-folders : quit-without-confirm : enable-flag-cmd : save-will-advance : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-aggregate-command-set : expunge-without-confirm : select-without-confirm : delete-skips-deleted : signature-at-bottom : preserve-start-stop-characters initial-keystroke-li : i customized-hdrs : Reply-To: dmandell@saintmarys.edu saved-msg-name-rule : by-recipient fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : Arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last character-set : ISO-8859-1 composer-wrap-column : 74 reply-indent-string : > empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients use-only-domain-name : Yes printer : lp -dlmhp4si personal-print-comma : lp -dlmhp4si personal-print-categ : 1 standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 96.7 last-version-used : 3.94 bugs-fullname : Dan Mandell bugs-address : dmandell@saintmarys.edu suggest-fullname : Pine Developers suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu local-fullname : Local Support local-address : postmaster kblock-passwd-count : 1 viewer-overlap : 2 scroll-margin : 0 status-message-delay : 0 mail-check-interval : 150 elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/users/dmandell/.pinerc) ======= personal-name : Dan Mandell nntp-server : News *[*] global-address-book : /usr/local/lib/.addressbook address-book : .addressbook feature-list : enable-bounce-cmd : auto-open-next-unread : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expanded-view-of-folders : quit-without-confirm : enable-flag-cmd : save-will-advance : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-aggregate-command-set : expunge-without-confirm : select-without-confirm : delete-skips-deleted : signature-at-bottom : preserve-start-stop-characters initial-keystroke-li : i customized-hdrs : Reply-To: dmandell@saintmarys.edu saved-msg-name-rule : by-recipient sort-key : Arrival character-set : ISO-8859-1 use-only-domain-name : Yes printer : lp -dlmhp4si personal-print-comma : lp -dlmhp4si personal-print-categ : 1 last-time-prune-ques : 96.7 last-version-used : 3.94 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= user-domain : saintmarys.edu inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature global-address-book : /usr/local/lib/.addressbook address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last composer-wrap-column : 74 reply-indent-string : > empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients use-only-domain-name : yes printer : lp standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Dan Mandell bugs-address : dmandell@saintmarys.edu suggest-fullname : Pine Developers suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu local-fullname : Local Support local-address : postmaster kblock-passwd-count : 1 viewer-overlap : 2 scroll-margin : 0 status-message-delay : 0 mail-check-interval : 150 elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-allow-talk no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs auto-open-next-unread no-auto-zoom-after-select no-auto-unzoom-after-apply no-compose-cut-from-cursor no-compose-maps-delete-key-to-ctrl-d no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-send-offers-first-filter no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-default-in-bug-report no-disable-busy-alarm no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-keymenu no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-disable-signature-edit-cmd no-enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation no-enable-8bit-nntp-posting enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-background-sending enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-cruise-mode no-enable-cruise-mode-delete no-enable-dot-files no-enable-dot-folders enable-flag-cmd no-enable-flag-screen-implicitly enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-goto-in-file-browser no-enable-incoming-folders enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-mouse-in-xterm no-enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon enable-suspend enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-enable-verbose-smtp-posting expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-distribution-lists expanded-view-of-folders expunge-without-confirm no-fcc-on-bounce no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-pass-control-characters-as-is preserve-start-stop-characters no-print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt no-print-includes-from-line no-print-index-enabled no-print-formfeed-between-messages no-quell-dead-letter-on-cancel no-quell-lock-failure-warnings no-quell-status-message-beeping no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file quit-without-confirm no-reply-always-uses-reply-to no-save-aggregates-copy-sequence no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete save-will-advance select-without-confirm no-show-cursor no-show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-single-column-folder-list no-tab-visits-next-new-message-only no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys no-use-sender-not-x-sender no-use-subshell-for-suspend ========== Latest keystrokes ========== n (0x006e) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) RETURN (0x000d) --1790645121-1594243340-836846413=:3234 Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-ID: Content-Description: Problem Message (184 of 196) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 21:43:14 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Mandell Reply-To: Dan Mandell To: "Doreen M. Nagy" , "John L. Cook" Subject: Student Accounts to preserve Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Attached is a list of students (including returning lab assistants) who have asked to have their accounts accessible over the summer. Unless Doreen has received recent additions this list - given me on June 20 - should be complete. male7105 weld2664 humb0644 mitc2960 meye8403 koon6412 mayk1072 (graduating senior taking a class) simm4656 pros6282 wass7565 maci9309 fray6988 elem5726 cant2287 jone3176 kuhl4779 pilc4409 norr8219 joza2041 lalo7475 neme7064 nagy9438 pete5106 wilb7318 rove8396 that6970 zhu0013 will0747 mosk1645 muti3989 just2862 ibra8399 sutt5723 kane8175 brub2378 murp6497 link8033 ljentoff mcdo4950 gala8403 mccu6914 clou4292 kriz4955 lued0658 cata7626 boch6733 ells0180 kalg0733 kalg0740 luka7508 mcke0418 pamp2029 edel6623 rine8711 patz5248 yura6189 -- Dan Mandell, Computer Services, Saint Mary's College Internet: dmandell@saintmarys.edu ...Cyberspace is to America in the late twentieth century what the frontier was to America in the nineteenth century.. N. Myhrvold, Microsoft --1790645121-1594243340-836846413=:3234-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21345; Mon, 8 Jul 96 11:46:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02514; Mon, 8 Jul 96 11:44:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [203.135.0.2] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02508; Mon, 8 Jul 96 11:44:13 -0700 Received: from localhost by paknet1.ptc.pk; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/14Apr96-0132PM) id AA31030; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 23:44:32 +0500 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 23:44:32 +0500 (GMT+0500) From: "mr m.akbar durrani" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Why the Export option (e) not Working ? (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 23:42:33 +0500 (GMT+0500) From: "mr m.akbar durrani" To: Local Support Subject: Why the Export option (e) not Working ? Dear Sir, Please Advise How to Download E-Mail Messages from INBOX folder to my PC Hard Disk of my Computer. I want to Export E-mail Messages forn the INBOX to Home Directory. I think from Home Directory I will be able to download all Messages to My PC for further processing. Kindly Extend Full Available Help at your Earliest. Thanking You. Best Regards M. Akbar Durrani From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23186; Mon, 8 Jul 96 12:23:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03543; Mon, 8 Jul 96 12:20:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03537; Mon, 8 Jul 96 12:20:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udLoB-00038TC; Mon, 8 Jul 96 12:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nino Margetic Subject: Re: REQ: SGI Friendly Pine source or binary (not COFF) Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 19:59:48 +0100 Message-Id: <31E15AA4.37FE@well.ox.ac.uk> References: <31E19C80.2781@tafe.sa.edu.au> <4rr7ea$2tn@nic.global-one.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > The Freeware 5.3 CD-ROM contains a COFF version which won't work > > with 6.2. Pine 3.91 reports non-trivial errors in compilation, > > is there a SGI friendly version of source code ? > Pine Information Center: http://www.washington.edu/pine > Source distribution: > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z > > I believe 3.93 is the current version. *** Actually it's 3.94 and it still has some problems (possibly not on SGI, but definitely on Solaris for Intel)... -- Nino Margetic / http://www.well.ox.ac.uk/~nino The Wellcome Trust Centre for Human Genetics, University of Oxford. Tel: +44 1865 740 005 / Fax: +44 1865 742 196 --- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23454; Mon, 8 Jul 96 12:28:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19704; Mon, 8 Jul 96 12:25:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19698; Mon, 8 Jul 96 12:25:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udLsd-00038BC; Mon, 8 Jul 96 12:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: UMABnet Help Account Subject: Re: Using the new upload-download feature Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 10:18:42 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Thanks, Paul. Unfortunately for us, we can't assume that our users have access to zmodem on the receiving end, and they do want to do uploads as well as downloads. I'm also not sure we want to globally enable the pipe command. We've been teaching people how to a) export to a text file, b) download, and c) delete the exported file. It's frustrating for many new users, and this integrated upload-download feature seemed like it would make life simpler, if only we could get it to work. Miriam Jaffe, for the HELP Team -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The HELP Team * Information Services * University of Maryland at Baltimore 100 North Greene Street, 2nd floor * Baltimore, MD * 21201 * U.S.A. 410 706 HELP * help@umabnet.ab.umd.edu On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, UMABnet Help Account wrote: > > I am having difficulty getting the integrated serial upload-download > > feature to work on our system. [...] > I have good luck (starting with 3.91 and continuing all the way > through 3.94) downloading from Un*x Pine to my DOS PC using the Pine > pipe feature and a simple shell script. [...] > It starts a Zmodem transfer, which ProComm Plus v2 on my PC > automatically picks up, and the transfer goes without a problem. [...] > I admit I have not worked out a method for uploading directly into > Pine. Usually I do uploads separately. > Paul > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA > Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key > Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24446; Mon, 8 Jul 96 12:58:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20359; Mon, 8 Jul 96 12:55:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailbox1.ucsd.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20353; Mon, 8 Jul 96 12:55:33 -0700 Received: from none.at.helo (ling.ucsd.edu [132.239.194.2]) by UCSD.EDU (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA16063 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ling.ucsd.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-UCSD.1) id MAA12764; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:55:14 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:55:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Jennifer DeSimone To: pine Subject: taking an address in the body of an message Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi. Does anyone know how to reply to the original sender of a forwarded message? Or, does anyone know how to take an email address that is contained in the body of a message? Thanks. Jen __________________________ / =<{ Jennifer DeSimone }> \ | desimone@ling.ucsd.edu | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25624; Mon, 8 Jul 96 13:13:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04897; Mon, 8 Jul 96 13:10:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04891; Mon, 8 Jul 96 13:10:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udMdV-00038BC; Mon, 8 Jul 96 13:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jackal@cbt.nist.gov (Ken Snyder) Subject: Re: Pine and POP? Date: 8 Jul 1996 15:52:30 GMT Message-Id: <4rraru$34o@dove.nist.gov> References: <4r63jr$6cv@news2.texas.net> HemiCuda (hemicuda@computek.net) wrote: : I've heard that it is possible for me to retrieve my POP3 email using Pine. : Currently, I'm using Pine 3.91 but plan on upgrading to a newer version : here when I install my new harddrive. How do I go about setting 3.91 up to : retrieve mail via POP3, and can I set it up to remove mail from server, etc? : I've looked through all the setup I can see, and nothing looks very : familiar to me. Thanks, any comments sent via email appreciated too. I use a separate program to "POP3" my mail from our mail mailserver. I had to download the POP3 program, called pop-perl5, which is a perl script. You can find a copy at ftp.warwick.ac.uk pub/linux/sunsite.unc-mirror/system/Mail/ pop-perl5-1.1.tar.gz As you can see, I am using Linux, but I believe the script should work for any operating system with a perl implementation. Good luck, Ken Snyder. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29084; Mon, 8 Jul 96 14:41:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23207; Mon, 8 Jul 96 14:35:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23200; Mon, 8 Jul 96 14:35:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udNvy-00038TC; Mon, 8 Jul 96 14:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: PC Pine: Time zone Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 23:56:35 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I've got this in my autoexec.bat and PC-Pine for Windows seems to use it: set TZ=EST5EDT I don't know what's correct for CEST but maybe someone else here does. Good luck, Nancy From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00690; Mon, 8 Jul 96 15:23:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08350; Mon, 8 Jul 96 15:21:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08344; Mon, 8 Jul 96 15:21:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udOb8-00038BC; Mon, 8 Jul 96 15:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: srb@cuci.nl (Stephen R. van den Berg) Subject: Re: Restricted mailer under UNIX Date: 8 Jul 1996 22:06:19 GMT Message-Id: <4rs0or$au0@hera.cuci.nl> References: <4rr402$6gn@hera.cuci.nl> >On 8 Jul 1996, Stephen R. van den Berg wrote: >:>Is Pine fit to be used as a restricted-shell mailer under UNIX? >:>Meaning, can it be configured to provide a 'secure' environment in which >:>no external programs or files can be started or viewed? Barry Landy wrote: >The short answer is yes. Pine provides (via pine.conf.fixed) the ability >to forbid all the ways to escape to a shell (via, say, an alternate >editor). Of course, you have to do a lot more that just lock the doors >in the mailer, you also have to provide a restricted shell system. The restricted shell is what I have setup already (they simply get pine as their login shell). I've manage to shutdown everything hazardous by configuring it in pine.conf.fixed, the only loopholes that still need to be fixed are: Include attachment (I'd like to forbid that). Save attachment (I'd like to forbid that too, or make it impossible by specifying an impossible path). What took some creative configuring to get right was the folder-collections, but I set it to: folder-collections = mail/[]/. Which effectively makes sure that mails cannot be saved anymore. -- Sincerely, srb@cuci.nl Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless). Are they twins? Yes. Are they *both* yours? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02779; Mon, 8 Jul 96 16:13:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25800; Mon, 8 Jul 96 16:11:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25794; Mon, 8 Jul 96 16:11:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udPQT-00038BC; Mon, 8 Jul 96 16:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tai@physics.utexas.edu (Tai Morris) Subject: Where is Pine distribution? Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 14:41:21 -0600 Message-Id: I can only find the v3.91 distribution at ftp.yggdrasil.com. I heard that newer versions of Pine may no longer be free. Is that why I can't find v3.92 and later? Thanks Tai From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02984; Mon, 8 Jul 96 16:22:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10197; Mon, 8 Jul 96 16:21:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10191; Mon, 8 Jul 96 16:21:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udPZ7-00038BC; Mon, 8 Jul 96 16:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cnt@asiaonline.net (chan ngar ting) Subject: electronic pobox Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 14:47:25 GMT Message-Id: <4rrant$ebm@news.asiaonline.net> I think this new is too late for you, but you can try to use a site "www.pobox.org.sg/welcome.html", it is a free e-mail box for you to link upto three accounts and forward your mail to a new account, for detail pls see the web site. cnt From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03214; Mon, 8 Jul 96 16:31:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26364; Mon, 8 Jul 96 16:29:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26358; Mon, 8 Jul 96 16:29:29 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 9 Jul 96 07:33:34 +0800 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 07:27:21 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Tai Morris Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Where is Pine distribution? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Tai Morris wrote: > I can only find the v3.91 distribution at ftp.yggdrasil.com. > I heard that newer versions of Pine may no longer be free. > Is that why I can't find v3.92 and later? Nope.... You can find pine 3.94 at its home located in beautiful downtown ftp ftp.cac.washington.edu. Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03288; Mon, 8 Jul 96 16:34:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10515; Mon, 8 Jul 96 16:32:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10509; Mon, 8 Jul 96 16:32:45 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 9 Jul 96 07:36:54 +0800 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 07:30:41 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Jennifer DeSimone Cc: pine Subject: Re: taking an address in the body of an message In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Jennifer DeSimone wrote: > Hi. Does anyone know how to reply to the original sender of a forwarded > message? Or, does anyone know how to take an email address that is > contained in the body of a message? I see by your ID that you are using pine3.91. Not sure when it came to be, but with pine3.94 the (t)ake will search and display candidates from the body of the message. Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06048; Mon, 8 Jul 96 17:52:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12371; Mon, 8 Jul 96 17:51:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12365; Mon, 8 Jul 96 17:51:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udQyT-00038TC; Mon, 8 Jul 96 17:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pjh@mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg) Subject: Re: Problwm with compiled 3.94 for Solaris Date: 5 Jul 1996 22:44:10 -0400 Message-Id: <4rkjtq$sug@tecoma.mccc.edu> References: In article , Pete Holsberg wrote: =I recently ftp'd the Solaris binary of 3.94 and installed =it, replacing 3.91 that we used successfully for a long =time. = =Users report that pine tries to create a folders directory =named = /home/fac/joe//home/fac/joe/mail = =(or perhaps it was Mail) and fails. = =Is that because of the way 3.94 was compiled? Continuing with the Solaris v. Pine saga... I did a ./build gso and it was successful. I then logged in as an ordinary user, and this is what resulted when I tried to invoke the result of the build (this, incidentally, is the same result as when I used the posted Solaris binary): Script is typescript, started Fri Jul 5 22:36:12 1996 $ pine394x Creating subdirectory "/home/stu/dummy//home/stu/dummy/Mail" where Pine will store its mail folders. ^GError creating subdirectory "/home/stu/dummy//home/stu/dummy/Mail" : No such file or directory $ Script done Fri Jul 5 22:36:25 1996 Any thoughts as to what I can edit to fix this? Thanks, Pete From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06055; Mon, 8 Jul 96 17:52:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28166; Mon, 8 Jul 96 17:51:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28160; Mon, 8 Jul 96 17:51:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udQyQ-00038BC; Mon, 8 Jul 96 17:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Abe Philip Subject: VMS to Unix conversion. Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 13:32:06 -0400 Message-Id: <31DD5196.4240@umbc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to convert my VMS mail folders to unix mail folders to use with Pine. I'm using the awk script that was posted to the pine discussion forum by Jim Clark on Jul 23 1995. Here is the script: --------vmsmail.awk---------- # awk program to reformat VMS mail header for Unix mail BEGIN { sun = 0; dname[sun] = "Sun" mon = 1; dname[mon] = "Mon" tue = 2; dname[tue] = "Tue" wed = 3; dname[wed] = "Wed" thu = 4; dname[thu] = "Thu" fri = 5; dname[fri] = "Fri" sat = 6; dname[sat] = "Sat" mname["JAN"] = "Jan"; firstof["Jan"] = sun mname["FEB"] = "Feb"; firstof["Feb"] = wed mname["MAR"] = "Mar"; firstof["Mar"] = wed mname["APR"] = "Apr"; firstof["Apr"] = sat mname["MAY"] = "May"; firstof["May"] = mon mname["JUN"] = "Jun"; firstof["Jun"] = thu mname["JUL"] = "Jul"; firstof["Jul"] = sat mname["AUG"] = "Aug"; firstof["Aug"] = tue mname["SEP"] = "Sep"; firstof["Sep"] = fri mname["OCT"] = "Oct"; firstof["Oct"] = sun mname["NOV"] = "Nov"; firstof["Nov"] = wed mname["DEC"] = "Dec"; firstof["Dec"] = fri } // { pagesep = 1; next } # delay formfeeds $1 == "From:" { if (!pagesep) # not a new mail header {print; next } if (NR>3) print "" # substitute blank line for formfeed pagesep = 0; newmsg = 1 # unread mail has final asterisk in VMS and Status: RO in Unix status = "Status: RO" if (substr($0,length($0),1) == "*") status = "" # reformat date/time from DD-MMM-YYYY HH:MM to Day Mmm DD HH:MM:00 YYYY i = 0 if (NF > 4) i = NF - 4 if (status == "") i = i-1 dash = index($(3+i), "-") date = substr($(3+i), 1, dash - 1) month = substr($(3+i), dash + 1, 3); month = mname[month] year = substr($(3+i), dash + 5, 4) # find day-of-week (baseline = Jan 1, 1972, a Saturday) y = year - 1972 leapdays = int(y/4) - int(y/100) + int(y/400) + 1 d = y + leapdays + firstof[month] + date - 1 + sat if ((year % 4) == 0 || (year % 400) == 0) if (month == "Jan" || month == "Feb") --d # adjust for date in Jan/Feb of a leap year if (date < 10) date = " " date # truncate time time = $(4+i) if (index($(4+i), ".") > 0) time = substr($(4+i),1,index($(4+i),".")-1) # modify address from = substr($2, 5, length($2)-5) print "From", from, dname[d % 7], month, date, time , year print "From: " from print "Date: " dname[d % 7], month, date, year, time next } $1 == "Subj:" {print "Subject: ", substr($0, 7, length($0)-6) # "Status" after "Subj" if (newmsg = 1) {print status; newmsg = 0 } next } { # ordinary line print $0 if (pagesep = 1 && newmsg = 0) {pagesep = 0; print "" } next} ------ End Script --------- The line which says: // { pagesep = 1; next } # delay formfeeds causes a syntax error when I run it using the command he suggested: awk -f mail.awk oldmail.mai > oldmail The syntax error is as follows: awk: Syntax error near line 24 awk: bailing out near line 24 I'm not familar enough with awk to debug it myself although I did try removing the '//' at the beginning of the line which causes it to say that there is an syntax error near line 26. If I comment it out with '#' it runs but the file doesn't get converted. Anyone have any ideas or suggestions?? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Abe -- Abe Philip -- aphili1@umbc.edu -- http://umbc.edu/~abe -- 455-6723 - Univ. of Maryland Balto. County | If I were expressing UMBC's opinions, University Computing Services | they'd probably make me wear a tie... Applications Group | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08532; Mon, 8 Jul 96 20:16:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00176; Mon, 8 Jul 96 20:14:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from augite.ncic1.ac.cn by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00170; Mon, 8 Jul 96 20:14:29 -0700 Received: (from huang@localhost) by augite.ncic.ac.cn (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA19568 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:16:04 +0900 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:16:04 +0900 From: huang@augite.ncic.ac.cn Message-Id: <199607090216.LAA19568@augite.ncic.ac.cn> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help Hello, I set up pine on the client to access the remote machine via IMAP, i can connect IMAP server and can see folder index,but i can't see message text. Can you tell me how i do? thankes. huang zhi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10541; Mon, 8 Jul 96 22:21:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01719; Mon, 8 Jul 96 22:17:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01711; Mon, 8 Jul 96 22:16:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udV8u-00038VC; Mon, 8 Jul 96 22:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simone@cts.com (Simone Shoemaker) Subject: Printing problem Date: 9 Jul 1996 05:09:26 GMT Message-Id: <4rspi6$iil@optional.cts.com> Sometimes when I print my messages with the "Y" command, it works just fine, but sooner or later, the printing will stop and the computer freezes up - to the point where I have to quit the session just to get out and operating again. Sometimes it will print two or three messages and refuse the next, today I tried to print something lengthy and it got stuck 3 times in a row after the third page (but not every time in the same spot). Can somebody offer a hint as to what's going on? Memory problem maybe? (But then why would it freeze up on a short message too?) Simone From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10821; Mon, 8 Jul 96 22:39:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01964; Mon, 8 Jul 96 22:36:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from info2.info.tampere.fi by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01958; Mon, 8 Jul 96 22:36:53 -0700 Received: from bassie.info.tampere.fi by info2.info.tampere.fi with ESMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA135510715; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:38:35 +0300 Received: from bassie.info.tampere.fi (juhas@bassie.info.tampere.fi [194.188.233.227]) by bassie.info.tampere.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA04468; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:35:06 +0300 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:35:06 +0300 (EET DST) From: Juha Suhonen To: Jennifer DeSimone Cc: pine Subject: Re: taking an address in the body of an message In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Jennifer DeSimone wrote: > Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 12:55:13 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jennifer DeSimone > To: pine > Subject: taking an address in the body of an message > > Hi. Does anyone know how to reply to the original sender of a forwarded > message? Or, does anyone know how to take an email address that is > contained in the body of a message? The normal T -command works here, 3.94. It seems to scan also the body of the message for e-mail-addresses.. Excellent idea! :) JuhaS From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13066; Tue, 9 Jul 96 00:54:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18024; Tue, 9 Jul 96 00:52:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18018; Tue, 9 Jul 96 00:52:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udXXr-00038TC; Tue, 9 Jul 96 00:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Daniel Stenberg Subject: Re: Redirect, killfile, auto messages, etc. Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 08:32:38 +0200 Message-Id: <31E1FD06.5ADC@sth.frontec.se> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > what is the file or command to set up a auto-reply to incomming message? I certainly hope this is an entry in the FAQ - as a fairly new reader of this newsgroup, I've already seen it lots of times. 'man forward' and 'man vacation' are two nice ways to get more information. PINE is a mail reader/sender, no multi purpose mail tool for whatever we can think of that has with mail to do. Don't you want the auto-reply to work even when you don't run PINE? > how do you set up a kill file so that pine auto deletes any messages > from a particular person or newsgroup? Try 'filter' - a very easy little program for filtering incoming mails and act according to the contents of the mails (like executing commands, storing in different folders, etc). 'procmail' is another frequently used program (although a bit more complicated). For newsgroups, there's no solution atm. -- Daniel.Stenberg@sth.frontec.se IRC: Bagder HTTP://sunsite.auc.dk/frexxed FrexxWare - Products for cool users. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13188; Tue, 9 Jul 96 00:59:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03550; Tue, 9 Jul 96 00:57:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03544; Tue, 9 Jul 96 00:57:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udXbn-00038BC; Tue, 9 Jul 96 00:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jungshik@net161-61.student.yale.edu (Jungshik Shin) Subject: Re: 8-bit newsposting doesn't work! Date: 9 Jul 1996 07:46:47 GMT Message-Id: <4rt2p7$2fc@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> References: nobody@psg.com wrote: : : I have sent mails to this list quite a few times claiming that neither the : newsposting nor the mailposting works for 8 bits! : I have made tests many times with pine 3.94 on Solaris 2.4 and the : results in all of them where negative! This feature has never worked : correctly for 3.93, 3.92 versions either. I guess that's because Pine doesn't get affirmative answer from STMP server that it can speak ESMPT and support 8BITMIME. You may as well have paid attention to the word "negotiation" in 'enable 8bit esmtp negotiation'. It's not 'enforce 8bit esmtp' but 'enable ...negotiation'. Pine rather strictly follows ESMTP negotiation protocol specified in RFC 1651 and 1652 and falls back to QP/Base64 if SMTP server it talks to doesn't follow RFC 1651/1652 although the SMTP server in question does speak ESMTP. For instance, sendmail 8.7.5 is compliant to RFC 1651/1652 and Pine has no problem with sending 8BITMIME while sendmail 8.6.12 doesn't follow RFC 1651/1652 and Pine encodes outgoing message after getting negative(or rather non-positive) answer from sendmail 8.6.12 although sendmail 8.6.12 can speak ESMTP. Related question is what happens if MTA on sending site speaks ESMTP and supports 8BITMIME while MTA on receiving site supports ESMTP but doesn't comform to RFC 1651/1652. On my Linux, sendmail 8.7.5 is installed and Pine sends out 8BITMIME message as it can get positive answer from sendmail 8.7.5. Now, ball is handed over to sendmail 8.7.5 and it seems like sendmail 8.7.5(client SMTP) on my Linux encodes outgoing 8bit mesg. in QP/Base64 after failing to get positive answer from receiving side MTA(server SMTP?). Reading RFC 1651/1652, I'm almost sure this is what happens, but it would be nice to be assured of this. Thanks in advance, Jungshik From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13410; Tue, 9 Jul 96 01:08:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18245; Tue, 9 Jul 96 01:07:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18239; Tue, 9 Jul 96 01:07:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udXkn-00038TC; Tue, 9 Jul 96 01:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jungshik@net161-61.student.yale.edu (Jungshik Shin) Subject: Pine 3.9x and 8BITMIME (was Re: 8-bit newsposting...) Date: 9 Jul 1996 08:03:12 GMT Message-Id: <4rt3o0$2fc@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> References: nobody@psg.com wrote: : : I have sent mails to this list quite a few times claiming that neither the : newsposting nor the mailposting works for 8 bits! : I have made tests many times with pine 3.94 on Solaris 2.4 and the : results in all of them where negative! This feature has never worked : correctly for 3.93, 3.92 versions either. I guess that's because Pine doesn't get affirmative answer from STMP server that it can speak ESMPT and support 8BITMIME. You may as well have paid attention to the word "negotiation" in 'enable 8bit esmtp negotiation'. It's not 'enforce 8bit esmtp' but 'enable ...negotiation'. Pine rather strictly follows ESMTP negotiation protocol specified in RFC 1651 and 1652 and falls back to QP/Base64 if SMTP server it talks to doesn't follow RFC 1651/1652 although the SMTP server in question does speak ESMTP. For instance, sendmail 8.7.5 is compliant to RFC 1651/1652 and Pine has no problem with sending 8BITMIME while sendmail 8.6.12 doesn't follow RFC 1651/1652 and Pine encodes outgoing message after getting negative(or rather non-positive) answer from sendmail 8.6.12 although sendmail 8.6.12 can speak ESMTP. Related question is what happens if MTA on sending site speaks ESMTP and supports 8BITMIME while MTA on receiving site supports ESMTP but doesn't comform to RFC 1651/1652. On my Linux, sendmail 8.7.5 is installed and Pine sends out 8BITMIME message as it can get positive answer from sendmail 8.7.5. Now, 8BITMIME message is handed over to sendmail 8.7.5 and it seems like sendmail 8.7.5(client SMTP) on my Linux encodes outgoing 8bit mesg. in QP/Base64 after failing to get positive answer from receiving side MTA(server SMTP?). Reading RFC 1651/1652, I'm almost sure this is what happens, but it would be nice to be assured of this. Thanks in advance, Jungshik From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14483; Tue, 9 Jul 96 01:41:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18609; Tue, 9 Jul 96 01:34:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hermes.cti.gr by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18603; Tue, 9 Jul 96 01:34:09 -0700 From: Pan.Dimakopoulos@cti.gr Received: (from dimakop@localhost) by hermes.cti.gr (8.7.4/8.7.3) id LAA29007; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:31:31 +0300 (EET DST) Organization: Computer Technology Institute - (CTI) Kolokotroni 3, 262 21 Patras, P.O.Box 1122, 261 10 Patras, Greece Tel: +30(61)992061, 994317-18 Fax: +30(61)993973, 222086 TELEX: 312515 CTI GR Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:31:31 +0300 (EET DST) To: Jungshik Shin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: 8-bit newsposting doesn't work! In-Reply-To: <4rt2p7$2fc@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 9 Jul 1996, Jungshik Shin wrote: > nobody@psg.com wrote: > : > : I have sent mails to this list quite a few times claiming that neither the > : newsposting nor the mailposting works for 8 bits! > : I have made tests many times with pine 3.94 on Solaris 2.4 and the > : results in all of them where negative! This feature has never worked > : correctly for 3.93, 3.92 versions either. > > I guess that's because Pine doesn't get affirmative answer from STMP > server that it can speak ESMPT and support 8BITMIME. You may > as well have paid attention to the word "negotiation" in > 'enable 8bit esmtp negotiation'. It's not 'enforce 8bit esmtp' > but 'enable ...negotiation'. > > Pine rather strictly follows ESMTP negotiation protocol specified in RFC > 1651 and 1652 and falls back to QP/Base64 if SMTP server it talks to > doesn't follow RFC 1651/1652 although the SMTP server in question does > speak ESMTP. For instance, sendmail 8.7.5 is compliant to RFC 1651/1652 > and Pine has no problem with sending 8BITMIME while sendmail 8.6.12 > doesn't follow RFC 1651/1652 and Pine encodes outgoing message after > getting negative(or rather non-positive) answer from sendmail 8.6.12 > although sendmail 8.6.12 can speak ESMTP. > > Related question is what happens if MTA on sending site speaks ESMTP > and supports 8BITMIME while MTA on receiving site supports ESMTP but > doesn't comform to RFC 1651/1652. On my Linux, sendmail 8.7.5 is > installed and Pine sends out 8BITMIME message as it can get positive > answer from sendmail 8.7.5. Now, ball is handed over to sendmail 8.7.5 > and it seems like sendmail 8.7.5(client SMTP) on my Linux encodes > outgoing 8bit mesg. in QP/Base64 after failing to get positive answer > from receiving side MTA(server SMTP?). Reading RFC 1651/1652, I'm almost > sure this is what happens, but it would be nice to be assured of this. > > Thanks in advance, > > Jungshik > Ok, your explanation is very good, however my tests were on systems which definitely support esmtp negotiation (ESMTP Sendmail 8.7.4 is installed with EHLO being one of the commands it recognises). I can very well recall when we were installing that and doing various checks (mainly with Mail -v -- -v for verbose report on the negotiation) that we could see the two machines talking in ESMTP. Thus, I strongly believe that the problem is inside pine which cannot understand that 8 bit posting is feasible! Thank you, ------------------------------------------------------ | Panos Dimakopoulos dimakop@cti.gr | | COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY INSTITUTE | | P.O. Box 1122 | | 261 10 Patras, Greece | | Tel (+30) 61 992061, 994317 Fax (+30) 61 993973 | ------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14830; Tue, 9 Jul 96 02:02:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04250; Tue, 9 Jul 96 01:57:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04244; Tue, 9 Jul 96 01:57:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udYZr-00038BC; Tue, 9 Jul 96 01:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jungshik@net161-61.student.yale.edu (Jungshik Shin) Subject: Re: Trouble Viewing Attachment in 3.94 Date: 9 Jul 1996 07:21:50 GMT Message-Id: <4rt1ae$2fc@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> References: Paul O Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) wrote: : On 8 Jul 1996, Terry Gray wrote: : : > The symptoms you describe suggest that Pine has found an entry in your : > system mailcap file for text/plain charset=8859-1, and is attempting to : > invoke the program specified in the mailcap file, "shownonascii". I'm : : There is *no* mailcap file in any directory in the PATH defined to : my Un*x shell. Digging around, I found one mailcap file in a directory : with 'X11' as part of the directory path, so I am guessing that that : one has to do with X-terms, and I am using VT100 emulation. There is : another, almost 2 1/2 years old, mailcap file in /usr/local/etc, which : is not in my PATH. I don't know whether Pine can find a mailcap file : (or any other file) not in my PATH -- I'm guessing not -- so Pine as I : use it may be running without a mailcap at all, if that's possible. /usr/local/etc is one of standard directories($HOME,/etc, /usr/etc, and /usr/local/etc) searched for by MIME-capable programs. I'm not sure whether or not Pine refer to mailcap in /usr/local/etc, though. Anyway, mailcap search path has nothing to do with your PATH variable. 'man mailcap' will give you more detail. BTW, I guess you can change 'mailcap search path' to be used by Pine not to include /usr/local/etc. Jungshik Shin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15660; Tue, 9 Jul 96 02:54:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04774; Tue, 9 Jul 96 02:47:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [193.13.194.249] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04768; Tue, 9 Jul 96 02:47:21 -0700 Received: from metal (metal.sth1.frontec.se [193.12.206.10]) by latour.sth.frontec.se (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA01898 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:47:19 +0200 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:47:17 +0200 (MET DST) From: Daniel Stenberg X-Sender: dast@metal Reply-To: Daniel Stenberg To: Pine List Subject: MOST WANTED LIST Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! Being a die hard Pine fan every since I discovered it (some year ago) I thought it is about time that I make my voice heard about the few items I have on my MOST WANTED features list... I do hope on replies, modified/improved suggestions and a low flame level: (I do have and use Pine-Solaris v3.94 a lot) * Better word wrap engines. I'd like the interactive word wrap in the Pico editor to get better. Like if you write a full paragraph of a couple of lines, and then move to the center of the paragraph and insert or delete a lot of characters it doesn't do the things any user would like it to do. Since the editor should have stored information about which lines it wrapped automatically when I wrote them, it should be able to re-wrap them when text is edited. The word wrap is also a weak part when quoted text is inserted in a reply-mail. Lines can very well exceed my line width limit, forcing me to press space on the lines to make them get wrapped by the editor. Even that makes the quoted lines look like a mess so I have to edit them a lot to make them look nice again. (that is, emulate the emacs 'fill-paragraph'). This could possibly be fixed if Pine would support an external filter to do the wrapping/quoteprefixadding. Of course, another editor could probably do it but I love the internal one in all other aspects. (If there is any help, I have written a very powerful word wrap engine in fully portable C for just such a purpose. At least, support for an external engine would allow me to use my own...) * Address book I have an address book with like ~40-50 entries and I start to feel the limits of pine in that area. First, I think moving with just cursor keys when selecting (like after a ^T) is too slow. I'd like to see like an incremental search or, like in the regular mail-index, numbered entries so I can make a JUMP address-number. More, I'd like to see a way to specify the addresses into groups. It would be easier to deal with lots of people in the book. I could put all my neighbours in my 'neighbour' group, the addresses of my team-mates in the 'team' group etc. It would be like having folders for addresses. It could possibly be nice to be able to put the same person in more than one group though, like if one of my neighbours is also in my team... * Smart index scrolling Been said before. Why is Pine capable of scrolling the text body of any mail in that smart and nice way when it can't do it with the index? From time to time I'm forced to use pine over a 9600 bps connection, and I tell you that moving in the index is one of pine's weakest parts then... * Threaded newsreader No comment needed I think. Still I understand if you don't have this on any high prio I thought I should mention it. Daniel.Stenberg@sth.frontec.se IRC: Bagder HTTP://sunsite.auc.dk/frexxed FrexxWare - Products for cool users. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19623; Tue, 9 Jul 96 05:57:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06903; Tue, 9 Jul 96 05:53:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from norman.nwnet.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06897; Tue, 9 Jul 96 05:53:17 -0700 Received: from hale.ssd.k12.wa.us by norman.nwnet.net (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12128; Tue, 9 Jul 96 05:53:16 -0700 Received: from localhost by Hale. ssd.k12.wa.us (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA05067; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 05:55:08 +0800 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 05:55:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Dennis Dong Teacher Math X-Sender: ddong@Hale To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: unable to print Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 290 Help! After entering "y" to print, I get the following message: Print Message 24 using "attached-to-ansi"? I enter "y" and then get the mesage: An error #-192 occurred while trying to print. Please check your printer. I am able to print other applications but this. What's the problem? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19727; Tue, 9 Jul 96 06:02:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21590; Tue, 9 Jul 96 05:52:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21584; Tue, 9 Jul 96 05:52:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udcGR-00038BC; Tue, 9 Jul 96 05:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: UMABnet Help Account Subject: Using the new upload-download feature Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 19:33:04 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am having difficulty getting the integrated serial upload-download feature to work on our system. The few paragraphs of help in the Setup/Config under upload-command, upload-command-prefix, download-command, and download-command-prefix are not detailed enough. Setting the download-command to sz -a causes a mail message to be exported to a file called PdNNNNNN on the local machine, but leaves the Pine session stuck with some zmodem result message garbage beginning with asterisks on the screen that it tries to process as commands, causing it to go to the flag screen and set and unset the flag until all the characters are processed. Setting the upload-command to rz fails completely. Am I missing something obvious? Has someone prepared a more detailed help document that I could look at? We're running Pine 3.94 on AIX 3.2.5 on our test machine. Testing has mostly been from Hyperterminal on Windows 95. Miriam Jaffe, for the HELP Team -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The HELP Team * Information Services * University of Maryland at Baltimore 100 North Greene Street, 2nd floor * Baltimore, MD * 21201 * U.S.A. 410 706 HELP * help@umabnet.ab.umd.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20284; Tue, 9 Jul 96 06:37:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07399; Tue, 9 Jul 96 06:32:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07393; Tue, 9 Jul 96 06:32:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udcrz-00038BC; Tue, 9 Jul 96 06:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Luis Colorado Subject: Re: mailing list privacy Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:52:25 +0200 Message-Id: References: <4rnfgm$238@lys.vnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4rnfgm$238@lys.vnet.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 7 Jul 1996, Al Bell wrote: > Date: 7 JUL 1996 00:47:18 -0400 > From: Al Bell > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: mailing list privacy > > Mailing List Privacy: > > I want to send information to a mailing list of about 40 people. But I > want to be the only one who can see the names and addresses on the list. > I don't want the list to be public. Use some cryptography program. With PGP, you can encrypt a message with all the public keys of *a subset* of the subscribed recipients and *only them* shall be able to decrypt it. > > Is there a way to ensure that the only address the recipient will be able > to see is the recipient's? > -- > Al Bell's Bell Jar - http://www.vnet.net/users/allbell/belljar.html > "I'm just crazy about it." - Sylvia Plath > Featuring: "Terror at 30 Rock (or: The Peacock Had Fangs)" > allbell@vnet.net allbell@delphi.com > > Recibe un abrazo, (best regards,) Luis. - -- Luis Colorado Telefonica Sistemas, S.A. C/Ramirez de Arellano 19 / 28043 MADRID (SPAIN) Tel: 34.1.337.5830 / Fax: 34.1.337.5709 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i Comment: For PGP public key: finger luis@slug.ctv.es iQB1AwUBMeJV7rWSEdeqwJEFAQEYHAL/WLetBZ38pGorujtG05amOK0tBcUE9Ajk xptYcstcslLC7EHJWF8d2FaNT2w1bZbLVaotemvHiBZ9vOtEO2d4QCzHKypR6gCC nF8jZHWN6t8f02PBXmZVpa34evNJRs94 =0OJy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20616; Tue, 9 Jul 96 06:51:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22226; Tue, 9 Jul 96 06:42:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22220; Tue, 9 Jul 96 06:42:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udd1k-00038BC; Tue, 9 Jul 96 06:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dastow@vcn.bc.ca (David Stow) Subject: Copying addresses to address book Date: 9 Jul 1996 13:13:45 GMT Message-Id: <4rtlu9$1fu@milo.vcn.bc.ca> Is it possible to copy an address from a received message into the address book? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21248; Tue, 9 Jul 96 07:21:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08062; Tue, 9 Jul 96 07:16:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08055; Tue, 9 Jul 96 07:16:39 -0700 Received: from maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id IAA07824 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:14:08 -0600 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.13]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id IAA35946 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:16:36 -0600 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:16:36 -0600 (MDT) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: Copying addresses to address book In-Reply-To: <4rtlu9$1fu@milo.vcn.bc.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 9 Jul 1996, David Stow wrote: > Is it possible to copy an address from a received message into the > address book? If the address is in the message header, yes. Hit t (Take). Pine will show you the address(es) it found in the message header. You can select one (or both/all) of the addresses shown and then hit t for take again and they will be added to the addressbook. Lea ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) http://www.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/tutor/Tutorials.html http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/Wiz/Wizard ..'But I didn't *mean* to be brave - it just sort of happened when I panicked...'... -Piglet ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21323; Tue, 9 Jul 96 07:24:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08128; Tue, 9 Jul 96 07:19:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [193.13.194.251] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08122; Tue, 9 Jul 96 07:18:57 -0700 Received: from metal (metal.sth1.frontec.se [193.12.206.10]) by latour.sth.frontec.se (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA03432 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:18:54 +0200 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:18:52 +0200 (MET DST) From: Daniel Stenberg X-Sender: dast@metal To: Pine List Subject: Re: Copying addresses to address book In-Reply-To: <4rtlu9$1fu@milo.vcn.bc.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Is it possible to copy an address from a received message into the > address book? Tried the (T)ake address command? (Don't know from what version that came, one helluva cool command though! ;) Daniel.Stenberg@sth.frontec.se IRC: Bagder HTTP://sunsite.auc.dk/frexxed FrexxWare - Products for cool users. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21716; Tue, 9 Jul 96 07:41:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08379; Tue, 9 Jul 96 07:35:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08371; Tue, 9 Jul 96 07:35:47 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.lmco.com ([166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA18924; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:35:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.lmco.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA31853; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:35:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (4.1/LMCO SunOS Server Nondomain-1.1) id AA12598; Tue, 9 Jul 96 10:34:13 EDT Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:34:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman X-Sender: sugarman@mmpcs1 To: David Stow Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Copying addresses to address book In-Reply-To: <4rtlu9$1fu@milo.vcn.bc.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 9 Jul 1996, David Stow wrote: > Is it possible to copy an address from a received message into the > address book? > > Yes. Press T (Take command) while on the message in the index or while in (viewing) the message contents. You might want to check out the various Pine Help screens. They are contextual (apply to what you are currently doing) and very good. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22181; Tue, 9 Jul 96 08:05:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23402; Tue, 9 Jul 96 08:02:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23396; Tue, 9 Jul 96 08:02:37 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21373; Tue, 9 Jul 96 08:02:14 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:02:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Pan.Dimakopoulos@cti.gr Cc: Jungshik Shin , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: 8-bit newsposting doesn't work! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 9 Jul 1996 Pan.Dimakopoulos@cti.gr wrote: > Thus, I strongly believe that the problem is inside pine which > cannot understand that 8 bit posting is feasible! Pan, You keep asserting that Pine is incapable of 8BITMIME negotiation, yet others on this list have reported that it works for them. If there is in fact a bug that is preventing the negotiation from happening in some situations, we'd really like some more data to track it down, but so far we don't have anything to go on. Note that ESMTP capability does not necessarily imply 8BITMIME capability on the part of the MTA... 8BITMIME is just one possible option that might be negotiated using the ESMTP framework. Note also as Jungshik Shin mentioned that a subsequent MTA could downgrade the message to 7bit. -teg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23620; Tue, 9 Jul 96 08:48:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09794; Tue, 9 Jul 96 08:42:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09788; Tue, 9 Jul 96 08:42:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uderW-00038BC; Tue, 9 Jul 96 08:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lori Stevens Subject: ANNOUNCING: www.imap.org Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:14:24 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The "IMAP Connection", a new web site dedicated to information about the Internet Message Access Protocol, is now available at http://www.imap.org This project is a public service of the University of Washington in Seattle. We will also continue to maintain the "UW IMAP Information Center", detailing UW's own IMAP projects, at http://www.washington.edu/imap From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23633; Tue, 9 Jul 96 08:48:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09772; Tue, 9 Jul 96 08:41:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09766; Tue, 9 Jul 96 08:41:20 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 9 Jul 96 23:45:20 +0800 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 23:39:05 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Lea Cc: Pine Information List Subject: Re: Copying addresses to address book In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Lea wrote: > On 9 Jul 1996, David Stow wrote: > > > Is it possible to copy an address from a received message into the > > address book? > > If the address is in the message header, yes. I see you are using pine 3.93. Well, in that case it should also search the body..... Use t(ake) here and test.... president@whithouse.gov > Hit t (Take). Pine will show you the address(es) it found in the > message header. You can select one (or both/all) of the addresses shown > and then hit t for take again and they will be added to the addressbook. Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24891; Tue, 9 Jul 96 09:05:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10349; Tue, 9 Jul 96 09:03:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10343; Tue, 9 Jul 96 09:03:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udfEE-00038TC; Tue, 9 Jul 96 09:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: systhvu@sp05.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Herman Van Uytven) Subject: help, the help command does not work Date: 9 Jul 1996 15:10:39 GMT Message-Id: <4rtspf$9fb@chaos.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be> Hello, The ? HELP command on the main menu of PCPINE on Windows (16b) does not work. When I enter ? or click on ? Help Pine hangs. Is there any way to circumvent this ? -Herman- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24897; Tue, 9 Jul 96 09:05:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24904; Tue, 9 Jul 96 09:02:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24898; Tue, 9 Jul 96 09:02:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udfAw-00038BC; Tue, 9 Jul 96 08:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cnt@asiaonline.net (chan ngar ting) Subject: electronic pobox Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 14:53:48 GMT Message-Id: <4rtvg3$pp3@news.asiaonline.net> I think this new is too late for you, but you can try to use a site "www.pobox.org.sg/welcome.html", it is a free e-mail box for you to link upto three accounts and forward your mail to a new account, for detail pls see the web site. cnt From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25806; Tue, 9 Jul 96 09:33:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11307; Tue, 9 Jul 96 09:30:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sweden-f.it.earthlink.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11295; Tue, 9 Jul 96 09:30:00 -0700 Received: from eberto (max2-gg-ca-32.earthlink.net [206.149.204.132]) by sweden.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA26224 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:28:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <31E2872C.2061@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 09:22:04 -0700 From: "Eberto de Armas, Jr." Organization: Megasys, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Pine users Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26158; Tue, 9 Jul 96 09:42:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26072; Tue, 9 Jul 96 09:39:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sweden-f.it.earthlink.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26066; Tue, 9 Jul 96 09:39:40 -0700 Received: from eberto (max2-gg-ca-32.earthlink.net [206.149.204.132]) by sweden.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA27096 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:38:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <31E28988.6395@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 09:32:08 -0700 From: "Eberto de Armas, Jr." Organization: Megasys, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Pine users Subject: unsubsribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26283; Tue, 9 Jul 96 09:44:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11657; Tue, 9 Jul 96 09:41:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11651; Tue, 9 Jul 96 09:40:55 -0700 Received: from maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id KAA23732 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:38:25 -0600 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.13]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA35770 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:40:52 -0600 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:40:51 -0600 (MDT) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: Copying addresses to address book In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > I see you are using pine 3.93. Well, in that case it should > also search the body..... Yup, it does so. Thanks for the tip, Ed :-) I don't use 't'ake much, and haven't since we upgraded to 3.93... Lea ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) http://www.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/tutor/Tutorials.html http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/Wiz/Wizard ..'But I didn't *mean* to be brave - it just sort of happened when I panicked...'... -Piglet ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00870; Tue, 9 Jul 96 11:09:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28542; Tue, 9 Jul 96 11:08:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from knox.knox.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28536; Tue, 9 Jul 96 11:08:00 -0700 Received: from sh712 (xlate-151-243.knox.edu) by knox.knox.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA285875576; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:06:16 -0500 Message-Id: <31E2A075.7E63@knox.edu> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 13:09:57 -0500 From: Steve Hall Organization: Knox College Computer Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.01 9000/712) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Imap/Pine on HP/UX Version 10.X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to run the imapd server on version 10.01 of HP/UX, configured as a trusted system. When the imapd server attempts to verify the user/password, it always fails, because it is unable, I believe, to verify the passowrd. We had a similar problem with a POP server from Qualcomm that, when we forced it to make calls to getprpwnam (password functions) seemed to work fine. This was a compile time option. Is there a version of imapd which is built specifically for HP/UX 10.X or a kludge that is documented? Thanks, Steven S. Hall Knox College Computer Center Galesburg, IL Email: SHall@KNOX.EDU FAX : 309-341-7718 Voice: 309-341-7823 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01354; Tue, 9 Jul 96 11:17:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14254; Tue, 9 Jul 96 11:13:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14248; Tue, 9 Jul 96 11:13:45 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24940; Tue, 9 Jul 96 11:13:44 -0700 X-Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for dlm+postmaster; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:27:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07931; Mon, 8 Jul 96 19:27:06 -0700 X-Received: from paw.montana.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13767; Mon, 8 Jul 96 19:27:05 -0700 X-Received: from uncle.montana.com (uncle [199.2.139.29]) by paw.montana.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA00504 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 20:31:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Received: from freemail ([206.230.43.70]) by uncle.montana.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA26302 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 20:31:18 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <1996070820294210.FreeMail.com> To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scottk Date: Sat 06 Jul 1996 22:58:16 EDT Reply-To: scottk X-Mailer: FreeMail SMTP Gateway v2.0 Rev 6e (W16) X-Webpage: http://www.FreeMail.com Subject: RE: Where to find default .pinerc? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: On 1 Jul 1996 18:00:39 GMT You wrote: My .pinerc was corrupted, so I deleted it. Where might I find a default-set copy, so that I could insert it into my system? Thanks, Bryan ------------------- Bryan, Check out the Pine FAQ at http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/faq/ ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/faq In the FAQ you get instructions on generating a blank personal config file by running "pine -P pinerc.blank" I've never had to generate a blank .pinerc -- Can anyone verify that this is still the valid method for generating it? kls ------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02123; Tue, 9 Jul 96 11:28:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29024; Tue, 9 Jul 96 11:26:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29018; Tue, 9 Jul 96 11:26:17 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15488; Tue, 9 Jul 96 11:25:45 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:25:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Herman Van Uytven Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help, the help command does not work In-Reply-To: <4rtspf$9fb@chaos.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Known bug; fixed in 3.95, coming soon. -teg On 9 Jul 1996, Herman Van Uytven wrote: > Hello, > > The ? HELP command on the main menu of PCPINE on Windows (16b) > does not work. When I enter ? or click on ? Help Pine hangs. > Is there any way to circumvent this ? > > -Herman- > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03858; Tue, 9 Jul 96 12:05:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00181; Tue, 9 Jul 96 12:03:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00173; Tue, 9 Jul 96 12:03:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udi3A-00038TC; Tue, 9 Jul 96 12:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: JP <74634.3526@CompuServe.COM> Subject: PC-PINE w/WINNT Net Server Date: 9 Jul 1996 18:36:48 GMT Message-Id: <4ru8s0$em2$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> Can i set up PINE running of Windows NT? What internet connector do I need? What EMAIL Server to I need? John LYNX Technologies Inc. -- jp From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13731; Tue, 9 Jul 96 15:49:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22041; Tue, 9 Jul 96 15:47:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from frank.mtsu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22035; Tue, 9 Jul 96 15:47:04 -0700 Received: by frank.mtsu.edu (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA071022500; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:48:21 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:48:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Myron Wayne Jones To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Incoming message folders Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have more that one incoming message folders in my pine set up. Does anyone know how I get incoming mail to choose one of my other folders vs my INBOX? Is some type of filtering necessary? - Myron Jones ---------------------------------------------------------------------- email: chem000c@frank.mtsu.edu homepage: http://www.mtsu.edu/~chem000c snail mail: MTSU Box D750, Murfreesboro, TN 37132 USA ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17811; Tue, 9 Jul 96 17:45:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24875; Tue, 9 Jul 96 17:44:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24869; Tue, 9 Jul 96 17:43:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udnKx-00038BC; Tue, 9 Jul 96 17:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bjdohert@midway.uchicago.edu (vincent eric orville) Subject: BUG: pine 3.94 won't delete incoming mail folder. Message-Id: Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 20:43:46 GMT i created an incoming mail folder in pine 3.94 without a problem. but when i realized that i had set the path incorrectly, i wanted to delete it and add it again with the correct path. when i deleted it, it removed itself from the screen but appeared again when i reloaded pine later. both the old and the new folders were there with the same nickname. attempts to delete it again failed. only when i edited .pinerc did it go away. strange, no? -- benjamin j doherty b-doherty@uchicago.edu http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/bjdohert/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22992; Tue, 9 Jul 96 22:12:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13408; Tue, 9 Jul 96 22:09:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13402; Tue, 9 Jul 96 22:09:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udrS1-00038BC; Tue, 9 Jul 96 22:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccshag@cclabs.missouri.edu (Paul 'Shag' Walmsley) Subject: Re: REQ: SGI Friendly Pine source or binary (not COFF) Date: 8 Jul 1996 21:11:29 GMT Message-Id: <4rrti1$1fcq@news.missouri.edu> References: <31E19C80.2781@tafe.sa.edu.au> <4rr7ea$2tn@nic.global-one.no> Arthur Hagen (art@kether.design.no) wrote: : In article <31E19C80.2781@tafe.sa.edu.au>, "Mike J. Bruins" writes: : > Hi There, : > Does anyone know where I can obtain a late version of pine : > that will run on IRIX 6.2 ? : > : > The Freeware 5.3 CD-ROM contains a COFF version which won't work : > with 6.2. Pine 3.91 reports non-trivial errors in compilation, : > is there a SGI friendly version of source code ? : I believe 3.93 is the current version. Pine 3.94 was just released a few weeks ago. -- - Paul "Shag" Walmsley "Knowing is not enough." -- Hal Hartley, "Surviving Desire" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23089; Tue, 9 Jul 96 22:16:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29330; Tue, 9 Jul 96 22:14:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29324; Tue, 9 Jul 96 22:14:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udrYk-00038BC; Tue, 9 Jul 96 22:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Trouble Viewing Attachment in 3.94 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:03:33 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 8 Jul 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > Paul, > The symptoms you describe suggest that Pine has found an entry in your > system mailcap file for text/plain charset=8859-1, and is attempting to > invoke the program specified in the mailcap file, "shownonascii". I'm > guessing that you are not using an X terminal at the moment, and since > "shownonascii" is an X-11 program, it might be having trouble talking to > your display. :) > [...] There is *no* mailcap file in any directory in the PATH defined to my Un*x shell. Digging around, I found one mailcap file in a directory with 'X11' as part of the directory path, so I am guessing that that one has to do with X-terms, and I am using VT100 emulation. There is another, almost 2 1/2 years old, mailcap file in /usr/local/etc, which is not in my PATH. I don't know whether Pine can find a mailcap file (or any other file) not in my PATH -- I'm guessing not -- so Pine as I use it may be running without a mailcap at all, if that's possible. If a sample mailcap is included with the Pine distribution, my service provider's Technical Staff seem to have hidden it when they installed 3.94 recently. They didn't even announce the installation -- it just magically showed up one day when I went to start Pine. I suppose I could copy that old mailcap in /usr/local/etc into $HOME and play around with it. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23119; Tue, 9 Jul 96 22:16:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13493; Tue, 9 Jul 96 22:14:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13487; Tue, 9 Jul 96 22:14:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udrYt-00038VC; Tue, 9 Jul 96 22:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Using the new upload-download feature Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:56:47 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, UMABnet Help Account wrote: > I am having difficulty getting the integrated serial upload-download > feature to work on our system. The few paragraphs of help in the > Setup/Config under upload-command, upload-command-prefix, > download-command, and download-command-prefix are not detailed enough. > [...] I have good luck (starting with 3.91 and continuing all the way through 3.94) downloading from Un*x Pine to my DOS PC using the Pine pipe feature and a simple shell script. I just have enable-pipe- command (or whatever it's called without looking) set in my configuration. Then, whenever I want to download a message, I just enter the vertical bar (|) as a command and answer the prompt with sendz, which is what I have named this script: #!/bin/sh umask 066 trap "rm -f $HOME/tmp/$$junk" 0 cat > $HOME/tmp/download.$$$ sz -a $HOME/tmp/download.$$$ rm -f $HOME/tmp/download.$$$ umask 077 It starts a Zmodem transfer, which ProComm Plus v2 on my PC automatically picks up, and the transfer goes without a problem. (The only thing is that the received file is named download.nnn, where 'nnn' is the first three digits of the Un*x process number, so you have to watch for that.) Of course, someone else might need to modify the directory path for a different configuration. I admit I have not worked out a method for uploading directly into Pine. Usually I do uploads separately. Hope this may be of help to somebody. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24852; Tue, 9 Jul 96 23:26:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00712; Tue, 9 Jul 96 23:24:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00706; Tue, 9 Jul 96 23:24:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udseY-00038TC; Tue, 9 Jul 96 23:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lori Stevens Subject: IMAP Meeting Announcement Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 13:24:55 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >>> UW TO HOST SECOND INTERNATIONAL IMAP MEETING IN NOVEMBER <<< The University of Washington will be hosting the second international IMAP (Internet Message Access Protocol) meeting November 6th-8th. If you're interested in IMAP, connect to the URL below for details about the meeting. http://www.washington.edu/imap/meeting.2nd/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24918; Tue, 9 Jul 96 23:29:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00768; Tue, 9 Jul 96 23:27:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from frank.mtsu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00762; Tue, 9 Jul 96 23:27:19 -0700 Received: by frank.mtsu.edu (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA173470116; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 01:28:36 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 01:28:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Myron Wayne Jones To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Kill Files Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have seen this in the postings for some time. Can someone explain what "Kill Files" means. References ?? - Myron Jones ---------------------------------------------------------------------- email: chem000c@frank.mtsu.edu homepage: http://www.mtsu.edu/~chem000c snail mail: MTSU Box D750, Murfreesboro, TN 37132 USA ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01354; Wed, 10 Jul 96 02:26:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03016; Wed, 10 Jul 96 02:12:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hermes.cti.gr by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03006; Wed, 10 Jul 96 02:12:01 -0700 From: Pan.Dimakopoulos@cti.gr Received: (from dimakop@localhost) by hermes.cti.gr (8.7.4/8.7.3) id MAA12260; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:09:33 +0300 (EET DST) Organization: Computer Technology Institute - (CTI) Kolokotroni 3, 262 21 Patras, P.O.Box 1122, 261 10 Patras, Greece Tel: +30(61)992061, 994317-18 Fax: +30(61)993973, 222086 TELEX: 312515 CTI GR Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:09:32 +0300 (EET DST) To: Terry Gray Cc: Pan.Dimakopoulos@cti.gr, Jungshik Shin , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: 8-bit newsposting doesn't work! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Jul 1996 Pan.Dimakopoulos@cti.gr wrote: > > > Thus, I strongly believe that the problem is inside pine which > > cannot understand that 8 bit posting is feasible! > > Pan, > You keep asserting that Pine is incapable of 8BITMIME negotiation, yet > others on this list have reported that it works for them. If there is in > fact a bug that is preventing the negotiation from happening in some > situations, we'd really like some more data to track it down, but so far > we don't have anything to go on. > > Note that ESMTP capability does not necessarily imply 8BITMIME capability > on the part of the MTA... 8BITMIME is just one possible option that might > be negotiated using the ESMTP framework. Note also as Jungshik Shin > mentioned that a subsequent MTA could downgrade the message to 7bit. > > -teg > > I am sorry to be the only one who keeps moaning about this capability. I hope I am not doing anything wrong. Well, following is the description of one of my many tests where 8 bit posting proves unsuccessful. I am posting a mail message with greek characters both in the body and in the subject. The posting is done from host hermes.cti.gr to dimakop@thalis.ceid.upatras.= gr. In the first case I send the mail with the simple command "Mail -v" and I have included its output later on. The mail arrives in 8 bits! Afterwards I do the posting with pine 3.94 where the enable 8 bit posting setting is on as it can be seen from the debug file I have included. In that case the message arrives completely in MIME (QP). Actually the message content is almost the same in both cases. I also include the output of port 25 on both systems so that you see the exact sendmail version. dimakop@hermes> telnet hermes 25 Trying 150.140.7.30 ... Connected to hermes.cti.gr. Escape character is '^]'. 220 hermes.cti.gr ESMTP Sendmail 8.7.4/8.7.3; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:43:45 +03= 00 (E ET DST) ----------------------------------------------------------------- dimakop@hermes> telnet thalis.ceid.upatras.gr 25 Trying 150.140.5.34 ... Connected to thalis.ceid.upatras.gr. Escape character is '^]'. 220 thalis.ceid.upatras.gr ESMTP Sendmail 8.7.4/8.7.3; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:= 45:01 +0300 (EET DST) ----------------------------------------------------------------- dimakop@hermes> Mail -v dimakop@thalis.ceid.upatras.gr Subject: =C4=EF=EA=E9=EC=DE =EC=E5 =C5=EB=EB=E7=ED=E9=EA=DC =EC=E5 Mail -v =C3=E5=E9=DC =F3=E1=F2 =2E EOT dimakop@hermes> dimakop@thalis.ceid.upatras.gr... Connecting to thalis.ceid= .upat ras.gr. via smtp... 220 thalis.ceid.upatras.gr ESMTP Sendmail 8.7.4/8.7.3; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:= 26:45 +0300 (EET DST) >>> EHLO hermes.cti.gr 250-thalis.ceid.upatras.gr Hello hermes.cti.gr [150.140.7.30], pleased to m= eet y ou 250-EXPN 250-8BITMIME 250-SIZE 250-DSN 250-VERB 250-ONEX 250 HELP >>> MAIL From: SIZE=3D102 250 ... Sender ok >>> RCPT To: 250 Recipient ok >>> DATA 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself >>> . 250 LAA28969 Message accepted for delivery dimakop@thalis.ceid.upatras.gr... Sent (LAA28969 Message accepted for deliv= ery) Closing connection to thalis.ceid.upatras.gr. >>> QUIT 221 thalis.ceid.upatras.gr closing connection ----------------------------------------------------------------- Checking the mailbox of user dimakop on thalis we see the mail to have been received in 8 bits as follows: ----------------------------------------------------------------- From=20Pan.Dimakopoulos@cti.gr Wed Jul 10 11:26 EET 1996 Received: from hermes.cti.gr (hermes.cti.gr [150.140.7.30]) by thalis.ceid.= upatr as.gr (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA28969 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:26:45 +0300 (EET DST) Received: (from dimakop@localhost) by hermes.cti.gr (8.7.4/8.7.3) id LAA114= 17 fo r dimakop@thalis.ceid.upatras.gr; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:26:29 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:26:29 +0300 (EET DST) From: Dimakopoulos Panagiotis Message-Id: <199607100826.LAA11417@hermes.cti.gr> Organization: Computer Technology Institute - (CTI) Kolokotroni 3, 262 21 Patras, P.O.Box 1122, 261 10 Patras, Gr= eece Tel: +30(61)992061, 994317-18 Fax: +30(61)993973, 222086 TELEX: 312515 CTI GR To: dimakop@thalis.ceid.upatras.gr Subject: =C4=EF=EA=E9=EC=DE =EC=E5 =C5=EB=EB=E7=ED=E9=EA=DC =EC=E5 Mail -v Content-Type: text Content-Length: 9 =C3=E5=E9=DC =F3=E1=F2 END OF THE MAIL ----------------------------------------------------------------- Sending mail with pine3.94. PINE 3.94 COMPOSE MESSAGE Folder: INBOX 306 Messag= es To : dimakop@thalis.ceid.upatras.gr Cc : Attchmnt: Subject : =C4=EF=EA=E9=EC=DE =EC=E5 =C5=EB=EB=E7=ED=E9=EA=DC 8bits ----- Message Text ----- =C3=E5=E9=DC =F3=E1=F2 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Checking the mailbox of user dimakop on thalis we see that the mail has NOT been received in 8 bits as follows: ----------------------------------------------------------------- From=20Pan.Dimakopoulos@cti.gr Wed Jul 10 11:35 EET 1996 Received: from hermes.cti.gr (hermes.cti.gr [150.140.7.30]) by thalis.ceid.= upatr as.gr (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA29004 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:35:38 +0300 (EET DST) Received: (from dimakop@localhost) by hermes.cti.gr (8.7.4/8.7.3) id LAA116= 99; W ed, 10 Jul 1996 11:35:21 +0300 (EET DST) Kolokotroni 3, 262 21 Patras, P.O.Box 1122, 261 10 Patras, Gr= eece Tel: +30(61)992061, 994317-18 Fax: +30(61)993973, 222086 TELEX: 312515 CTI GR From: Pan.Dimakopoulos@cti.gr Organization: Computer Technology Institute - (CTI) Kolokotroni 3, 262 21 Patras, P.O.Box 1122, 261 10 Patras, Gr= eece Tel: +30(61)992061, 994317-18 Fax: +30(61)993973, 222086 TELEX: 312515 CTI GR Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:35:20 +0300 (EET DST) To: dimakop@thalis.ceid.upatras.gr Subject: =3D?ISO-8859-7?Q?=3DC4=3DEF=3DEA=3DE9=3DEC=3DDE_=3DEC=3DE5_=3DC5= =3DEB=3DEB=3DE7=3DED=3DE9=3DEA=3DDC_8?=3D =3D?ISO-8859-7?Q?bits?=3D Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DISO-8859-7 Content-Length: 24 =3DC3=3DE5=3DE9=3DDC =3DF3=3DE1=3DF2 ----------------------------------------------------------------- The debug output from pine (level 5) is the following: ----------------------------------------------------------------- Debug output of the Pine program (at debug level 5). Version 3.94 Wed Jul 10 11:33:47 1996 reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf" Read 3072 characters: user-domain : cti.gr nntp-server : news.cti.gr news-collections : "Local Bulletins & Usenet News" *{news.cti.gr/nntp}= [] signature-file : .signature folder-collections : Personal-folders Mail/[] sort-key : Arrival image-viewer : /usr/local/bin/xv printer : lpr -Pcca_iiisi personal-print-comma : lpr -Pcca_iiisi reading_pinerc "/users/u1/staff/dimakop/.pinerc" Read 11933 characters: smtp-server : hermes.cti.gr feature-list : enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon : show-selected-in-boldface : select-without-confirm : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation sort-key : Arrival character-set : ISO-8859-7 last-time-prune-ques : 96.7 last-version-used : 3.94 folder-collections : Personal-folders Mail/[] : "Pine List" *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine= /pine-info/[] reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed" Read 10193 characters: feature-list : signature-at-bottom : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-8bit-nntp-posting sendmail-path : /usr/lib/sendmail -oem -t -oi character-set : ISO-8859-7 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Current_val options set =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D user-domain : cti.gr smtp-server : hermes.cti.gr nntp-server : news.cti.gr inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : Personal-folders Mail/[] : "Pine List" *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine= /pine-info/[] news-collections : "Local Bulletins & Usenet News" *{news.cti.gr/nntp}= [] default-fcc : "" default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook feature-list : enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon : show-selected-in-boldface : select-without-confirm : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation : signature-at-bottom : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-8bit-nntp-posting saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : Arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last character-set : ISO-8859-7 compos no-expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-fcc-on-bounce no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-pass-control-characters-as-is no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt no-print-includes-from-line no-print-index-enabled no-print-formfeed-between-messages no-quell-dead-letter-on-cancel no-quell-lock-failure-warnings no-quell-status-message-beeping no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-reply-always-uses-reply-to no-save-aggregates-copy-sequence no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance select-without-confirm no-show-cursor show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-single-column-folder-list no-tab-visits-next-new-message-only no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys no-use-sender-not-x-sender no-use-subshell-for-suspend Userid: dimakop Fullname: "" User domain name being used "cti.gr" Local Domain name being used "cti.gr" Host name being used "hermes.cti.gr" Mail Domain name being used (by c-client too)"cti.gr" ---- write_pinerc ---- Context Mail/[] type: LOCAL ioctl(TIOCWINSZ) failed :Invalid argument Terminal type: vt220 Context Mail/[] type: LOCAL Context *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] type: REMOTE B= BOARD ANON Context *{news.cti.gr/nntp}[] type: REMOTE BBOARD OLDTECH About to open folder "INBOX" inbox: "INBOX" =3D=3D=3D mm_exists(306,/var/mail/dimakop) called =3D=3D=3D Opened folder "/var/mail/dimakop" with 306 messages Sorting by Arrival First unseen returning 39 =3D=3D=3D=3D expire_mail called =3D=3D=3D=3D IMAP 11:33:54 7/10 mm_log babble: Find of mailbox outside context: /users/u= 1/staff/dimakop/.pine-interrupted-mail - mailcap_free - ---- MAIN_MENU_SCREEN ---- - mailcap_free - ---- COMPOSE SCREEN (not in pico yet) ---- IMAP 11:33:59 7/10 mm_log babble: Find of mailbox outside context: /users/u= 1/staff/dimakop/.pine-interrupted-mail =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D context_mailbox: (Mail/postponed-msgs) Want_to read: n (110) =3D=3D=3D send called =3D=3D=3D ---- COMPOSER ---- - build_address - (dimakop@thalis.ceid.upatras.gr) -- init_addrbooks(Closed, 0, 0, 1) -- - adrbk_open(/users/u1/staff/dimakop/.addressbook) - Address book .addressbook (/users/u1/staff/dimakop/.addressbook) opened wit= h 11 items - adrbk_lookup_by_addr(dimakop@thalis.ceid.upatras.gr) (in /users/u1/staff/= dimakop/.addressbook) - - build_address - () ioctl(TIOCWINSZ) failed :Invalid argument Want_to read: y (121) =2E.. composer returns (0x5) ioctl(TIOCWINSZ) failed :Invalid argument -- pine_encode_body: 0 =3D=3D=3D sending: Sending mail... call_mailer via cmd: /usr/lib/sendmail -oem -t -oi =3D=3D=3D mta_parse_post(/usr/lib/sendmail -oem -t -oi) =3D=3D=3D Opening pipe: "/usr/lib/sendmail -oem -t -oi" (WNP) PID: 11699, COMMAND: /usr/lib/sendmail -oem -t -oi -- pine_rfc822_output -- pine_encode_body: 0 -- pine_rfc822_output_body: 0 -- pine_rfc822_output_body: segment 9 bytes -- gf_pipe: done. =3D=3D=3D send returning =3D=3D=3D - mailcap_free - ---- MAIN_MENU_SCREEN ---- ---- QUIT SCREEN ---- Want_to read: y (121) expunge and close mail stream "/var/mail/dimakop" about to end_tty_driver end_signals(0) - completely_done_with_adrbks - - mailcap_free - ----------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, if this helps, I sent a mail from thalis.ceid.upatras.gr to dimakop@hermes.cti.gr with "Mail -v dimakop@hermes.cti.gr" which also arrivved correctly in 8 bits. Following is the output of the Mail -v command and later on is the form of that message received in the mail box of dimakop@hermes.cti.gr. ----------------------------------------------------------------- thalis>Mail -v dimakop@hermes.cti.gr Subject: =C4=EF=EA=E9=EC=DE =E1=F0=FC thalis =C3=E5=E9=DC =F3=E1=F2 =EE=E1=ED=DC =2E EOT thalis>dimakop@hermes.cti.gr... Connecting to hermes.cti.gr. via smtp... 220 hermes.cti.gr ESMTP Sendmail 8.7.4/8.7.3; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:53:15 +03= 00 (E ET DST) >>> EHLO thalis.ceid.upatras.gr 250-hermes.cti.gr Hello thalis.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.5.34], pleased to m= eet y ou 250-EXPN 250-8BITMIME 250-SIZE 250-DSN 250-VERB 250-ONEX 250 HELP >>> MAIL From: SIZE=3D87 250 ... Sender ok >>> RCPT To: 250 Recipient ok >>> DATA 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself >>> . 250 LAA11995 Message accepted for delivery dimakop@hermes.cti.gr... Sent (LAA11995 Message accepted for delivery) Closing connection to hermes.cti.gr. >>> QUIT 221 hermes.cti.gr closing connection thalis> ----------------------------------------------------------------- From=20Pan.Dimakopoulos@ceid.upatras.gr Wed Jul 10 11:53 EET 1996 Received: from thalis.ceid.upatras.gr (thalis.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.5.34= ]) by hermes.cti.gr (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA11995 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:53:15 +0300 (EET DST) Kolokotroni 3, 262 21 Patras, P.O.Box 1122, 261 10 Patras, Gr= eece Tel: +30(61)992061, 994317-18 Fax: +30(61)993973, 222086 TELEX: 312515 CTI GR Received: (from dimakop@localhost) by thalis.ceid.upatras.gr (8.7.4/8.7.3) = id LA A29379 for dimakop@hermes.cti.gr; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:53:29 +0300 (EET DST) Organization: Computer Technology Institute - (CTI) Kolokotroni 3, 262 21 Patras, P.O.Box 1122, 261 10 Patras, Gr= eece Tel: +30(61)992061, 994317-18 Fax: +30(61)993973, 222086 TELEX: 312515 CTI GR Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:53:29 +0300 (EET DST) From: Dimakopoulos Panos Message-Id: <199607100853.LAA29379@thalis.ceid.upatras.gr> To: dimakop@hermes.cti.gr Subject: =C4=EF=EA=E9=EC=DE =E1=F0=FC thalis Content-Type: text Content-Length: 14 =C3=E5=E9=DC =F3=E1=F2 =EE=E1=ED=DC ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------ | Panos Dimakopoulos dimakop@cti.gr | | COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY INSTITUTE | | P.O. Box 1122 | | 261 10 Patras, Greece | | Tel (+30) 61 992061, 994317 Fax (+30) 61 993973 | ------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05886; Wed, 10 Jul 96 04:40:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19147; Wed, 10 Jul 96 04:35:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19141; Wed, 10 Jul 96 04:35:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udxVc-00038TC; Wed, 10 Jul 96 04:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: Incoming message folders Date: 10 Jul 1996 11:29:07 GMT Message-Id: <4s0463$6u1@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: Un jour, Myron Wayne Jones (chem000c@frank.mtsu.edu) a spiculi sur: | I have more that one incoming message folders in my pine set up. Does | anyone know how I get incoming mail to choose one of my other folders | vs my INBOX? Is some type of filtering necessary? Take a look at procmail or filter (from elm package). GD LCK __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da mailto:tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca B.Sc info (2e année) http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ Université de Montréal http://libertel.montreal.qc.ca/~tranhu/ -----> C'est sûrement pas l'université qui partage mes opinions <----- C'est surtout ce qu'on ne comprend pas qu'on explique. L'esprit humain se venge de ses ignorances par ses erreurs. -- J. Babey d'Aurevilly From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08251; Wed, 10 Jul 96 05:48:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20060; Wed, 10 Jul 96 05:43:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from net161-61.student.yale.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20054; Wed, 10 Jul 96 05:43:53 -0700 Received: from localhost (jungshik@localhost) by net161-61.student.yale.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA05983 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 08:43:50 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 08:43:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Jungshik Shin Reply-To: jshin@minerva.cis.yale.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: patch for supporting RFC 1557(Korean mail) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I sent following message to the address for Pine feature suggestion, but haven't received any response, automatic or human. I understand well that Pine team can't reply to all individual suggestions, but automatic(machine) response would be better than no response at all. Hence, I decided to sent it to pine-info. I would be very grateful to Pine team if this patch is accepted and included in upcoming release(3.95) of Pine. It's for Korean mail exchange compliant to RFC 1557 and dose NOTHING if charset is NOT set to 'iso-2022-kr' (Korean mail exchange code). Jungshik Shin ------------------- To whom it may concern: First of all, I'd like to express my deep thanks for developing wonderful mail program, Pine. I have a small patch to strings.c in Pine 3.94 source to support RFC 1557 (Korean mail exchange standard similar to those for Japanese - RFC 1468- and Chinese - RFC 1922- mail.). RFC 1557 states that Korean message body in EUC-KR (KSC 5601) be encoded in ISO-2022-KR(again similar to ISO-2022-JP and ISO-2022-CN), which is 7bit. Body encoding/decoding can be handled by 'sending filter' and 'displayfilter' and doesn't have any problem with Pine with possible exception of Pine 3.93 under Solaris 2.4 where my filter program leads to error. It's also stated that 8bit EUC-KR in header of a message be either B encoded or Q encoded with charset name 'EUC-KR'. However, 'Content-Type:' header is specified to have 'iso-2022-kr' as the value for the parameter 'charset'. Thus, Korean message header should look like following Subject: =?EUC-KR?B??= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unfortunately, current version of Pine (3.92,3.93,3.94) doesn't offer a way to specify two different character set names to use in 'charset=' field and encoding of 8bit characters in header. It's understandable that Pine doesn't have that facility since RFC 1557 is rather peculiar in this aspect. RFC 1468 and 1922 don't mention about header. What my patch to 'strings.c' does is use 'EUC-KR' as 'charset' name in encoding of 8bit chars in header IF and ONLY IF 'charset' designated in 'pinerc' is 'iso-2022-kr'(case insensitive). One more it does is enforce 'B' encoding of header when 'charset' in 'pinerc' is 'iso-2022-kr'. The latter is not required by RFC 1557, which specifies that either Q or B encoding can be used, but is necessary since most of RFC 1557 implementation(modified Sendmail for Korean. MTA-level implementation was inevitable as POP3 clients such as Netscape and Eudora don't support RFC 1557) used in and outside Korea recognize and decode only B encoding (of course, MIME-capable MUA can handle Q encoding as well). My patch has absolutely NO effect at all if 'charset' is NOT 'iso-2022-kr' and accordingly I think it fits well. Before my patch is accepted and reflected in newer version of Pine, I'd like to know if I could distribute my patch as 'Pine 3.94K' ('K' for Korean. I think 'L' is too generic). Once again, I greatly appreciate you for an excellent mail program and wish my patch would be carefully considered. Sincerely, Jungshik Shin P.S. For more information on Korean mail exchange, you may refer to my Hangul FAQ at http://pantheon.cis.yale.edu/~jshin/faq/hmail.html and http://pantheon.cis.yale.edu/~jshin/faq/qa8.html and references therein.(e.g. Ken Lunde's CJK info. or Choi,Woohyung's 'Hangul Sendmail' page - Hangul is the Korean writting system) -------- patch for strings.c in pine-3.94/pine directory -------- -------- generated by 'diff -c strings.c strings-new.c ---------- *** strings.c Mon Jul 8 09:24:41 1996 --- strings-new.c Sun Jul 7 16:51:48 1996 *************** *** 1918,1926 **** enc = (n > (2 * (p - s)) / 3) ? 'B' : 'Q'; int slen; while(*s){ sstrcpy(&d, RFC1522_INIT); /* insert intro header, */ ! sstrcpy(&d, charset); /* character set tag, */ sstrcpy(&d, RFC1522_DLIM); /* and encoding flavor */ *d++ = enc; sstrcpy(&d, RFC1522_DLIM); --- 1918,1933 ---- enc = (n > (2 * (p - s)) / 3) ? 'B' : 'Q'; int slen; + + if ( ! strcasecmp(charset, "iso-2022-kr") ) + enc = 'B'; + while(*s){ sstrcpy(&d, RFC1522_INIT); /* insert intro header, */ ! if ( strcasecmp(charset, "iso-2022-kr") ) ! sstrcpy(&d, charset); /* character set tag, */ ! else ! sstrcpy(&d,"EUC-KR"); sstrcpy(&d, RFC1522_DLIM); /* and encoding flavor */ *d++ = enc; sstrcpy(&d, RFC1522_DLIM); *************** *** 1929,1935 **** * feed lines to encoder such that they're guaranteed * less than RFC1522_MAXW. */ ! p = rfc1522_encoded_word(s, enc, charset); if(enc == 'B') /* insert encoded data */ sstrcpy(&d, t = rfc1522_binary(s, p - s)); else /* 'Q' encoding */ --- 1936,1945 ---- * feed lines to encoder such that they're guaranteed * less than RFC1522_MAXW. */ ! if ( strcasecmp(charset, "iso-2022-kr") ) ! p = rfc1522_encoded_word(s, enc, charset); ! else ! p = rfc1522_encoded_word(s, enc, "EUC-KR"); if(enc == 'B') /* insert encoded data */ sstrcpy(&d, t = rfc1522_binary(s, p - s)); else /* 'Q' encoding */ ------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08784; Wed, 10 Jul 96 06:09:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06405; Wed, 10 Jul 96 06:05:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06399; Wed, 10 Jul 96 06:05:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udyto-00038VC; Wed, 10 Jul 96 06:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: showie@uoguelph.ca (Steve Howie) Subject: Re: nice pgp and pine interface? Date: 10 Jul 1996 02:17:03 GMT Message-Id: <4rv3qv$b5q@ccshst05.uoguelph.ca> References: <4rbst0$p9n@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> <4robn1$ov@klemm.gtn.com> Andreas Klemm (andreas@klemm.gtn.com) wrote: : In article <4rbst0$p9n@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu>, : sbaillar@attila.stevens-tech.edu (Songkun Baillargeon) writes: : > s there a nice PGP and Pine interface or do I have to keep saving and : > blah blah blah??? : : PinePGP, ask kujawa@montana.com : Also try 'mkpgp' ... forget the authors address though Scotty ================================================================= Steve Howie Email: showie@uoguelph.ca NetNews and Listserv Admin. Phone: (519) 824-4120 x2556 Computing and Communications Svcs. Fax: (519) 763-6143 University of Guelph If it's not Scottish its CRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP ================================================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08897; Wed, 10 Jul 96 06:12:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20339; Wed, 10 Jul 96 06:05:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20333; Wed, 10 Jul 96 06:05:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0udytQ-00038TC; Wed, 10 Jul 96 06:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: showie@uoguelph.ca (Steve Howie) Subject: Re: pine print Date: 10 Jul 1996 02:15:18 GMT Message-Id: <4rv3nm$b5q@ccshst05.uoguelph.ca> References: <4rmneh$1ru@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> Matthew Bazoian (aa326@freenet.hamilton.on.ca) wrote: : Reading a message and on occasion desiring a hard copy I press Y for ansi : sys printing .All is well, but it always is followed by a form feed and : an extra plain sheet is extruded from printer.This occurs in two BBS : sites I happen to use . I have tried several options in Setup printer : configuration without success. Btw I have recently changed printers from : a Canon bubble jet to a Okidata ol600e ,for unrelated reasons, but the : irritation continues.Any help will be appreciated. Prior to printing to 'attached to ansi', Pine sends an ANSI setup sequence esc-5i (I think) to the printer, then resets it with an esc-6i. It's not the printer you're using, but rather the terminal emulator package you use to connect to the host you're running Pine on. e.g. NCSA supposedly eats these control codes and interprets them properly. Try the same thing, but use a different terminal emulator to get to the host - that may "cure" it. I think I'm just going to cut these to lines out of the source to see if it makes a difference. -- Scotty ================================================================= Steve Howie Email: showie@uoguelph.ca NetNews and Listserv Admin. Phone: (519) 824-4120 x2556 Computing and Communications Svcs. Fax: (519) 763-6143 University of Guelph If it's not Scottish its CRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP ================================================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10230; Wed, 10 Jul 96 06:55:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07008; Wed, 10 Jul 96 06:52:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [193.13.194.220] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07000; Wed, 10 Jul 96 06:52:01 -0700 Received: from metal (metal.sth1.frontec.se [193.12.206.10]) by latour.sth.frontec.se (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA05162 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:51:58 +0200 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:51:56 +0200 (MET DST) From: Daniel Stenberg X-Sender: dast@metal To: Pine List Subject: Source code Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How come I can't ftp the Pine source package? pine.tar.gz: Permission denied from the two different mirrors I tried to do it from... Daniel.Stenberg@sth.frontec.se IRC: Bagder HTTP://sunsite.auc.dk/frexxed FrexxWare - Products for cool users. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10983; Wed, 10 Jul 96 07:12:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07304; Wed, 10 Jul 96 07:08:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server1.lycos.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07298; Wed, 10 Jul 96 07:08:02 -0700 Received: from mule.eng.lycos.com (mule.eng.lycos.com [206.101.96.90]) by server1.lycos.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA15238 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:08:01 -0400 Received: from localhost by mule.eng.lycos.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/12Mar96-0237PM) id AA08568; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:08:00 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:08:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jason M. Heyd" X-Sender: heyd@mule.eng.lycos.com To: Pine Info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe pine-info "Jason M. Heyd" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12134; Wed, 10 Jul 96 07:41:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07610; Wed, 10 Jul 96 07:25:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pobox.jwu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07604; Wed, 10 Jul 96 07:25:05 -0700 Received: from POBOX by POBOX.jwu.edu; Wed, 10 Jul 96 09:23 EDT Received: from mach.jwu.edu by POBOX.jwu.edu; Wed, 10 Jul 96 09:23 EDT Received: from mach (localhost) by mach.jwu.edu ; 10 JUL 96 10:28:44 EDT Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:28:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Teara Edwards X-Sender: tedwards@mach To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Saving messages on disk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Length: 252 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was wondering if it were possible to save or move messages from the server onto a disk. I read many documents and I am still searching. Thank you. Teara Edwards Johnson & Wales University 8 Abbot Park Place Providence, RI 02903 (401) 598-HELP From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12382; Wed, 10 Jul 96 07:48:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21628; Wed, 10 Jul 96 07:30:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21622; Wed, 10 Jul 96 07:30:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ue0H3-00038BC; Wed, 10 Jul 96 07:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jungshik@net161-61.student.yale.edu (Jungshik Shin) Subject: cmsg cancel <4rt2p7$2fc@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> Control: cancel <4rt2p7$2fc@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> Date: 9 Jul 1996 07:56:44 GMT Message-Id: <4rt3bs$2fc@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> Article cancelled from within tin [v1.3 950824BETA-h1 PL0] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12549; Wed, 10 Jul 96 07:50:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21603; Wed, 10 Jul 96 07:30:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21595; Wed, 10 Jul 96 07:30:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ue0BW-00038TC; Wed, 10 Jul 96 07:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Leif Erlingsson Subject: Re: Pine 3.9x and 8BITMIME (was Re: 8-bit newsposting...) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:53:46 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT In-Reply-To: <4rt3o0$2fc@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> On 9 Jul 1996, Jungshik Shin wrote: > Now, 8BITMIME message is handed over to > sendmail 8.7.5 and it seems like sendmail 8.7.5(client SMTP) on my Linux > encodes outgoing 8bit mesg. in QP/Base64 after failing to get positive > answer from receiving side MTA(server SMTP?). Reading RFC 1651/1652, I'm > almost sure this is what happens, but it would be nice to be assured of > this. This is configurable in the m4 source for sendmail.cf .... define(`confSMTP_MAILER', `smtp8')dnl define(`SMART_HOST', `smtp8:mailbox.swip.net')dnl My /usr/site/mail/cf/mailer/smtp.m4 Msmtp8 definition looks like so... Msmtp8, P=[IPC], F=CONCAT(mDFMuX8, SMTP_MAILER_FLAGS), S=11/31, R=ifdef(`_ALL_MASQUERADE_', `21/31', `21'), E=\r\n, L=990, _OPTINS(`SMTP_MAILER_MAX', `M=', `, ')_OPTINS(`SMTP_MAILER_CHARSET', `C=', `, ')T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP, A=SMTP8_MAILER_ARGS But this is standard from sendmail-8.7.5, so it shouldn't need to be touched! If You are lazy, it's the `8' in the mailer flags (mDFMuX8) that `does it'. You can dedit Your standard smtp mailer directly in /etc/sendmail.cf and enter that `8' there: Msmtp, P=[IPC], F=mDFMuX8e, S=11/31, R=21, E=\r\n, L=990, T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP, A=IPC $h The drawback of following these instructions is that the ESMTP negotiation protocol will be broken. We will ALWAYS send just 8. The CORRECT WAY of doing it is to set up with mailertables a list of known 8bit hosts, and use the smtp8 mailer ONLY WITH THOSE HOSTS! -- Leif Erlingsson http://www.geocities.com/RodeoDrive/1998 +46 8 604 0995 Stockholm, Sweden, Tellus, Milky Way, Gods Universe. PS: I do work for money! Need any practical assistance? I can log in over the internet and fix things for You ... I know virtual domains, procmail, reverse aliasing, the works! I also plan to patch Pine to have a feature that makes it send 8BITMIME even when sendmail is called on the command line. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13393; Wed, 10 Jul 96 08:06:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21975; Wed, 10 Jul 96 07:49:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21969; Wed, 10 Jul 96 07:49:14 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 10 Jul 96 22:53:24 +0800 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 22:47:10 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Daniel Stenberg Cc: Pine List Subject: Re: Source code In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Daniel Stenberg wrote: > How come I can't ftp the Pine source package? > > pine.tar.gz: Permission denied > > from the two different mirrors I tried to do it from... Sounds like you should complain to the keepers of the mirrors.... (You didn't even tell us where they are...so it is kind of hard to comment.....) Or you can go direct to ftp.cac.washington.edu Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13729; Wed, 10 Jul 96 08:12:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22200; Wed, 10 Jul 96 07:57:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [193.13.194.220] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22194; Wed, 10 Jul 96 07:57:09 -0700 Received: from metal (metal.sth1.frontec.se [193.12.206.10]) by latour.sth.frontec.se (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA05957 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:57:06 +0200 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:57:04 +0200 (MET DST) From: Daniel Stenberg X-Sender: dast@metal To: Pine List Subject: Re: Source code In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > pine.tar.gz: Permission denied Ugha. Extremely embarrasing to mention, but it was my fault not having write permissing in my current local dir... There's my punishment for posting a question before thinking! I'll do better in the future! =) Daniel.Stenberg@sth.frontec.se IRC: Bagder http://sunsite.auc.dk/frexxed FrexxWare - Products for cool users. ** Works for http://www.frontec.se - Software Engineer ** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16783; Wed, 10 Jul 96 12:39:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18125; Wed, 10 Jul 96 12:36:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18119; Wed, 10 Jul 96 12:36:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ue53S-00038BC; Wed, 10 Jul 96 12:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dmeier@rzu.unizh.ch (David Meier) Subject: pgp for pine in Windows? Date: 10 Jul 1996 16:53:14 GMT Message-Id: <4s0n5q$6ot@rzunews.unizh.ch> Does anybody know, whether pine supports pgp? Thanks David Meier From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09817; Wed, 10 Jul 96 13:59:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04128; Wed, 10 Jul 96 13:56:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04122; Wed, 10 Jul 96 13:56:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ue6EK-00038BC; Wed, 10 Jul 96 13:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: Re: BCC Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:43:16 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: What you do is enter in the persons address in the To: field put in a comma and then type in :; (i.e. To: johnd@network.com, :;). This way it will say: To: John Doe From: Pagemaster Subject: whatever OR If you (like and)are using 3.93 there is a feature called empty-header-message where you can add in what ever. This is where the Undisclosed recipients comes from. Warning... this is what will show up every time just like Undisclosed recipients. I have mine set to say : A list of my favorite people. Hope this helps! On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, Pagemaster wrote: > Oh, forgot one thing... > > How do you get pine to display the recipients name in the TO: line instead of > TO: Undisclosed recipients when you mail to a mailing list and use the BCC > line to hide the rest of the address' I want it to look like this when the > person recieved it: > > TO : John Doe > FROM : Pagemaster > SUBJECT: Club posting > > Right now all I get is something that looks like this: > > TO : Undisclosed recipients > FROM : Pagemaster > SUBJECT: Club posting > > Is there a way to change this? > > > > Come experience the power of the Nexis: > The Nexis has moved to: > "http://www.alliance.net/~nexis/nexis-index.html" > *********************************************************** > The Chef's Corner: The best site on the internet for food! > ********* Now located at: ***************** > http://www.alliance.net/~nexis/cooks.html > > Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 15:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18958; Wed, 10 Jul 96 15:08:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22438; Wed, 10 Jul 96 15:06:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22432; Wed, 10 Jul 96 15:06:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ue7NB-00038TC; Wed, 10 Jul 96 15:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: someone Subject: Re: change From: or add Reply-To: ?? Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:46:53 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4rbioj$ett@maya.dei.unipd.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4rbioj$ett@maya.dei.unipd.it> In the configuration screen there are two features that you can play around with that will accomplish the same thing is different ways. 1.) default-composer-hdrs: Here you can add the headers that you would like to see all the time. You HAVE to enter in the normal fields (i.e. To, Subject, etc) and then also enter in Reply-to:. Now when you compose a message what ever fields you entered in that area will always show up as the header. If this confuses you when you are in the configuration screen and have the feature selected type a ? and it will bring you to a help screen. 2.) customized-hdrs: Here you can just add in the Reply-to: header, you do not have to enter in the rest of the headers. This will cause the Reply-to header to be in the rich header when you compose a message. In other words you would have to do a ^R (control R) when in the compose screen to get the heading up. Hope this helps! On 2 Jul 1996, Michael Taeschner 30/07/96 wrote: > How can I do the above in pine-3.91 (ultrix-4.3) ? > > The objective is to make all replies go to another host than the one from > which the original was sent. > > TIA > > Michael Taeschner > > Student of Engineering Mechanics: > University of Padova: taeschne@attila.dic.unipd.it (until 26/07/96) > University of Magdeburg: Michael.Taeschner@student.uni-magdeburg.de > > Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20497; Wed, 10 Jul 96 16:43:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08336; Wed, 10 Jul 96 16:41:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08327; Wed, 10 Jul 96 16:41:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ue8qH-00038BC; Wed, 10 Jul 96 16:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pHOo Subject: hmm.. PLEASE HELP!! offline mail-writing.. Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 00:57:41 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi.. please help me w/ this: let's say i'm writing some letters and use ^O so that they will be stored in the postponed-msgs folder file.. Then i want to send ALL messages in that folder! one way to do it is to go through every message in the postpones-msgs folder and press C, ^X on every one.. very time consuming.. so, please! isn't there anyway to send all msgs at one time? it doesnt have to be done in pine, any unix command combination would do.. HELP! ..pHOo of AiP, PGP-key_Available From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:43:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21746; Wed, 10 Jul 96 18:43:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27132; Wed, 10 Jul 96 18:41:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27126; Wed, 10 Jul 96 18:41:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueAl3-00038BC; Wed, 10 Jul 96 18:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sliver@sfsu.edu (PETER JAY SALZMAN) Subject: HELP: vi with Pine Date: 10 Jul 1996 19:04:25 GMT Message-Id: <4s0urp$f7h@news.csus.edu> Hi all I would really like to use vi with Pine instead of Pico. How can I do this? Actually, I would like Pine to use vi as the primary editor, not an alternate that I can choose once a mail session has begun. I noticed there is an "alternate editor" line in .pinerc. What about for the primary editor? Any help would be greatly appreciated. btw- I looked for the FAQ on the newsgroup and there doesnt' seem to be one. Otherwise I would've tried that first! :-) pete From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:58:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22151; Wed, 10 Jul 96 19:58:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11619; Wed, 10 Jul 96 19:57:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11613; Wed, 10 Jul 96 19:57:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueBua-00038BC; Wed, 10 Jul 96 19:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ray@flood.xnet.com (Raymond Spartz) Subject: Pine on the macintosh? Date: 11 Jul 1996 02:03:00 GMT Message-Id: <4s1nck$4fc@flood.xnet.com> Hi All! First time post - sorry if this is silly but is there a version of Pine for the Macintosh? I know this is a text-based e-mailer, but since it was also available for the Wintel machines I thought I would just ask. It's really great in the unix world. Thanks up-front. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 00:24:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24416; Thu, 11 Jul 96 00:24:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01776; Thu, 11 Jul 96 00:18:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from info2.info.tampere.fi by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01770; Thu, 11 Jul 96 00:18:45 -0700 Received: from bassie.info.tampere.fi by info2.info.tampere.fi with ESMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA144109629; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:20:29 +0300 Received: from bassie.info.tampere.fi (juhas@bassie.info.tampere.fi [194.188.233.227]) by bassie.info.tampere.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA21479; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:18:23 +0300 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:18:23 +0300 (EET DST) From: Juha Suhonen To: PETER JAY SALZMAN Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HELP: vi with Pine In-Reply-To: <4s0urp$f7h@news.csus.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 10 Jul 1996, PETER JAY SALZMAN wrote: > Date: 10 Jul 1996 19:04:25 GMT > From: PETER JAY SALZMAN > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: HELP: vi with Pine > > I would really like to use vi with Pine instead of Pico. How can I do > this? Sure. Enable both enable-alternate-editor-cmd and enable-alternate-editor-implicitly in the setup and then set your alternate editor. :) JuhaS /-----------------------------------------------------\ | J u h a S u h o n e n | | - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - | | juhas@bassie.info.tampere.fi | | http://www.bassie.info.tampere.fi/ | | http://Www.Great.fi/%7Ejuhas/ | \-----------------------------------------------------/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 00:29:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24480; Thu, 11 Jul 96 00:29:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01906; Thu, 11 Jul 96 00:27:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01900; Thu, 11 Jul 96 00:27:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueG8r-00038BC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 00:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oakley@conti.oz.net (Reid Conti) Subject: Pine Mailbox locks Date: 9 Jul 1996 06:56:24 GMT Message-Id: I've got a major lock problem here on my system. After upgrading to Linux 2.0 from 1.2.13 and also swapping disks (involving the tarring and untarring of large volumes of files :) my user pine mailboxes (inbox AND all user-created boxes) have locks on them that will not go away. I've checked permissions, tried find for .pine or .lock files, in short done just about everything I could think of, yet these locks remain. The side-note is that all root mailboxes work fine. I had the problem under 3.91 but since upgraded to 3.94 and the problems remain. Please help, it's been plaguing me for days! Thanks! -- ---------------------------------------- Powered by Linux 1.2.13 -- conti.oz.net. Mail conti@oz.net "It's the loneliest feeling in the world -- to find yourself standing up when everybody else is sitting down. To have everybody look at you and say, "What's the matter with him?" I know. I know what it feels like. Walking down an empty street, listening to the sound of your own footsteps. Shutters closed, blinds drawn, doors locked against you. And you aren't sure whether you're walking toward something, or if you're just walking away." -- Jerome Lawrence, Inherit the Wind. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 00:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24586; Thu, 11 Jul 96 00:40:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15163; Thu, 11 Jul 96 00:37:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15157; Thu, 11 Jul 96 00:37:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueGJE-00038BC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 00:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joe Klein Subject: ACCESS ERROR Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 22:07:03 +0300 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was sitting at my desk when suddenly, I got the following message in my PINE window MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR Can somebody out there tell me what events can cause this to happen ? I am running Pine 3.94 on Solaris 2.4 (on a Sparc 5 - if it makes a difference). Thanx Joe Klein Expert Alerts Inc. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 01:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24540; Thu, 11 Jul 96 01:01:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02300; Thu, 11 Jul 96 00:57:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hermes.cti.gr by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02294; Thu, 11 Jul 96 00:57:50 -0700 From: Pan.Dimakopoulos@cti.gr Received: (from dimakop@localhost) by hermes.cti.gr (8.7.4/8.7.3) id KAA20097; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:55:29 +0300 (EET DST) Organization: Computer Technology Institute - (CTI) Kolokotroni 3, 262 21 Patras, P.O.Box 1122, 261 10 Patras, Greece Tel: +30(61)992061, 994317-18 Fax: +30(61)993973, 222086 TELEX: 312515 CTI GR Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:55:29 +0300 (EET DST) To: Leif Erlingsson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.9x and 8BITMIME (was Re: 8-bit newsposting...) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Leif Erlingsson wrote: > On 9 Jul 1996, Jungshik Shin wrote: > > > Now, 8BITMIME message is handed over to > > sendmail 8.7.5 and it seems like sendmail 8.7.5(client SMTP) on my Linux > > encodes outgoing 8bit mesg. in QP/Base64 after failing to get positive > > answer from receiving side MTA(server SMTP?). Reading RFC 1651/1652, I'm > > almost sure this is what happens, but it would be nice to be assured of > > this. > > This is configurable in the m4 source for sendmail.cf .... > > define(`confSMTP_MAILER', `smtp8')dnl > define(`SMART_HOST', `smtp8:mailbox.swip.net')dnl > >[...] > Msmtp, P=[IPC], F=mDFMuX8e, S=11/31, R=21, E=\r\n, L=990, > T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP, > A=IPC $h > > In my case where 8 bit posting does not work with pine I have set this 8 in the mailer flags in file sendmail.cf. Actually this is as follows: Msmtp, P=[IPC], F=mDFMuX8, S=11/31, R=21, E=\r\n, L=990, T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP, A=IPC $h, C=iso-8859-7 Mesmtp, P=[IPC], F=mDFMuXa8, S=11/31, R=21, E=\r\n, L=990, T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP, A=IPC $h, C=iso-8859-7 Msmtp8, P=[IPC], F=mDFMuX8, S=11/31, R=21, E=\r\n, L=990, T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP, A=IPC $h, C=iso-8859-7 Mrelay, P=[IPC], F=mDFMuXa8, S=11/31, R=61, E=\r\n, L=2040, T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP, A=IPC $h, C=iso-8859-7 However when I send mail with the simple "Mail -v @" command 8 bits are transferred accross - which means that my sendmail configuration allows 8 bit negotiation. Thanks, ------------------------------------------------------ | Panos Dimakopoulos dimakop@cti.gr | | COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY INSTITUTE | | P.O. Box 1122 | | 261 10 Patras, Greece | | Tel (+30) 61 992061, 994317 Fax (+30) 61 993973 | ------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 02:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25086; Thu, 11 Jul 96 02:03:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02987; Thu, 11 Jul 96 01:58:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02981; Thu, 11 Jul 96 01:58:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id KAA10689; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:54:08 +0200 (METDST) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:54:08 +0200 (METDST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= {Vladimir Solnicky} Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bc=2E_Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: Leif Erlingsson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.9x and 8BITMIME (was Re: 8-bit newsposting...) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?stav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_=28=DATIA?= =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=29_AV_=C8R?= Disposition-Notification-To: vs+disposition@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Leif Erlingsson wrote: > protocol will be broken. We will ALWAYS send just 8. The CORRECT WAY of > doing it is to set up with mailertables a list of known 8bit hosts, and= use > the smtp8 mailer ONLY WITH THOSE HOSTS! Well, I am trying to make a mailertable work (sendmail 8.7.5) for a reall= y long time. My UserDB works, but my mailertable does not. I tried all possible db methods. Format of mailertable is like the following: .gr smtp8:%1.gr muni.cz smtp8:muni.cz uivt1.uivt.cas.cz smtp8:uivt1.uivt.cas.cz Do you see anything wrong? If anyone can help me, I will appreciated it very much! Thank in advance, V. S. Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD, =DATIA AV =C8R, Pod vod=E1renskou v=EC=BE=ED 4, 182 08 Praha 8-Libe=F2, +42 2 6605/2364, telefax: +42 2 6884677, vs@utia.cas.cz, http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-cz.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 02:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25281; Thu, 11 Jul 96 02:31:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03337; Thu, 11 Jul 96 02:26:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03331; Thu, 11 Jul 96 02:26:09 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id LAA11258 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:26:04 +0200 (METDST) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:26:04 +0200 (METDST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= {Vladimir Solnicky} Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bc=2E_Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: The Pine Discussion List Subject: Re: Pine 3.9x and 8BITMIME In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?stav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_=28=DATIA?= =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=29_AV_=C8R?= Disposition-Notification-To: vs+disposition@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Answering myself ... :-( :-) On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD {Vladimir Solnicky} wrote: > Well, I am trying to make a mailertable work (sendmail 8.7.5) for a rea= lly > long time. My UserDB works, but my mailertable does not. I tried all > possible db methods. Format of mailertable is like the following: Now it works. I did not get the idea a few months but I've got it having sent the question to pine-info :-) The problem was that some rulesets wer= e commented out. I only had to find all occurences of the word mailertavble and uncommented those rulesets. And now it works. I included well-known 8bit-clean domains (.su, .ru, .gr) into it and I hope everything is OK even for non-8BITMIME SMTP servers there. Sorry for asking you. Regards, V. S. Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD, =DATIA AV =C8R, Pod vod=E1renskou v=EC=BE=ED 4, 182 08 Praha 8-Libe=F2, +42 2 6605/2364, telefax: +42 2 6884677, vs@utia.cas.cz, http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-cz.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 03:08:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00687; Thu, 11 Jul 96 03:08:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03703; Thu, 11 Jul 96 03:02:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03697; Thu, 11 Jul 96 03:02:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueIWR-00038BC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 02:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Eric C. Hagberg" Subject: locking code... Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 09:34:33 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I keep having these weird lockups/hangs that look like they might be caused by locking problems... Pine 3.94, SunOS, hangs and never comes back, unless I strace the process, which somehow kicks it out of the hung state. It happens when updating mail folders in my home directory, which is mounted via AFS. Perhaps there should be a way to enable _only_ .lock file locking everywhere, so that flock() could be eliminated entirely? Or maybe the locks need to be set up so that they don't block? I've noticed that not all flock calls are non-blocking... Thanks, -Eric Eric Hagberg, hagberg@ms.com, (212)762-2558 Morgan Stanley, 750 Seventh Avenue, New York, NY 10019 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 03:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25783; Thu, 11 Jul 96 03:53:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17344; Thu, 11 Jul 96 03:47:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17338; Thu, 11 Jul 96 03:47:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueJGg-00038BC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 03:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mathias@merlion.singnet.com.sg (Mathias Koerber) Subject: Changing From: header Date: 11 Jul 1996 10:42:42 GMT Message-Id: <4s2lr2$l0h@lantana.singnet.com.sg> I have compiled pine3.93 with the ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM dircetive, and put a From:
into the default_composer_hdr set.. Nw pine allows me to change the From: line, but the default displayed first is still @domain, and not the address I listed in the .pinerc.... How can I force a different From: header that stays that way? TIA -- Mathias Koerber | Tel: +65 / 471 9820 | mathias@staff.singnet.com.sg SingNet NOC | Fax: +65 / 475 3273 | Mathias_Koerber@pobox.org.sg Q'town Tel. Exch. | PGP: Keyid: 768/25E082BD finger mathias@singnet.com.sg 2 Stirling Rd | 1A 8B FC D4 93 F1 9A FC BD 98 A3 1A 0E 73 01 65 S'pore 148943 | Disclaimer: I speak only for myself ** Eifersucht ist eine Leidenschaft, die mii Eifer sucht, was Leiden schafft ** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 03:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25820; Thu, 11 Jul 96 03:56:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17403; Thu, 11 Jul 96 03:52:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17397; Thu, 11 Jul 96 03:52:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueJMW-00038VC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 03:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pHOo Subject: Re: Pine and POP? Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:46:05 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4rraru$34o@dove.nist.gov> On 8 Jul 1996, Ken Snyder wrote: > HemiCuda (hemicuda@computek.net) wrote: > : I've heard that it is possible for me to retrieve my POP3 email using Pine. > : Currently, I'm using Pine 3.91 but plan on upgrading to a newer version > : here when I install my new harddrive. How do I go about setting 3.91 up to > : retrieve mail via POP3, and can I set it up to remove mail from server, etc? > : I've looked through all the setup I can see, and nothing looks very > : familiar to me. Thanks, any comments sent via email appreciated too. > > I use a separate program to "POP3" my mail from our mail mailserver. > I had to download the POP3 program, called pop-perl5, which is a perl > script. You can find a copy at > > ftp.warwick.ac.uk pub/linux/sunsite.unc-mirror/system/Mail/ > pop-perl5-1.1.tar.gz > > As you can see, I am using Linux, but I believe the script should work > for any operating system with a perl implementation. i'm using popclient to retreive my mail from my mailserver.. and it works just fine.. but, i want to be able to write/reply to msgs /offline/ and then send all msgs in one folder.. maybe you know how to do it? let's say you're using ^O [postpone] instead of ^X [send] so that all outgoing mail ends up in the postponed-msgs folder.. if you only had some program that would take all msgs from one folder-file and send them! well well.. .mmMMMmm. - - ----------------------------------- - - MM" . . "MM. pHOo of Access Inside Productionz (AiP) .M" M M "M. http://www.angelfire.com/pg1/phoo M". M M ."M PGP public key available M M. " " .M M M. M. .M .M "M. "MmmmM" .M" "To fly, you just have to miss the ground" "Mm. .mM" "MMmmmMM" - - ----------------------------------- - - From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 03:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25829; Thu, 11 Jul 96 03:56:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04231; Thu, 11 Jul 96 03:52:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04225; Thu, 11 Jul 96 03:52:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueJMH-00038BC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 03:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cnt@asiaonline.net (chan ngar ting) Subject: Re: HOW do I autoforward incoming email to a new account. 3.91 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 09:48:08 GMT Message-Id: <4s2mb2$f3p@news.asiaonline.net> References: I think this new is too late for you, but you can try to use a site "www.pobox.org.sg/welcome.html", it is a free e-mail box for you to link upto three accounts and forward your mail to a new account, for detail pls see the web site. "R. Ramey" wrote: >How can I do this. I need to before 7-7 Atty From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 05:31:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25330; Thu, 11 Jul 96 05:31:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05498; Thu, 11 Jul 96 05:28:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05492; Thu, 11 Jul 96 05:28:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueKpX-00038BC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 05:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ged@tinasolttu.cs.hut.fi (Camillo S{rs) Subject: Re: Incoming message folders Date: 11 Jul 1996 14:44:05 +0300 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: chem000c@frank.mtsu.edu's message of 9 Jul 1996 15:48:56 -0700 In article chem000c@frank.mtsu.edu (Myron Wayne Jones) writes: I have more that one incoming message folders in my pine set up. Does anyone know how I get incoming mail to choose one of my other folders vs my INBOX? Is some type of filtering necessary? The best tool for this that I know of is Procmail. It allows you to set up a powerful set of rules that process any incoming mail. Among the things you can do with it is sorting incoming mail into different folders. - Myron Jones Camillo -- Camillo Särs ** Aim for the impossible and you Faculty of Computer Science ** will achieve the improbable. Helsinki University of Technology ** http://www.iki.fi/ged G=Camillo S=Sars O=hut ADMD=fumail C=fi ** PGP public key available From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 06:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26787; Thu, 11 Jul 96 06:35:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19482; Thu, 11 Jul 96 06:33:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19476; Thu, 11 Jul 96 06:33:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueLoM-00038BC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 06:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dglasner@panix.com (Daniel Glasner) Subject: Re: Public Access Unix? Date: 11 Jul 1996 09:28:04 -0400 Message-Id: <4s2vh4$ha8@panix3.panix.com> References: <31d7f9e9.22111698@news.sequel.net> If you get any replies, could you send me the answers? Thanks. Jerome Tan (jti@i-manila.com.ph) wrote: : Does anyone here know any public access Unix shell? I am trying to : access it using Telnet. -- -- Daniel Glasner dglasner@panix.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28764; Thu, 11 Jul 96 08:38:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08451; Thu, 11 Jul 96 08:27:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay5.UU.NET by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08445; Thu, 11 Jul 96 08:27:56 -0700 Received: from uucp4.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp4.UU.NET [192.48.96.35]) id QQaxxl19809; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:27:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fmrco.UUCP by uucp4.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:27:54 -0400 Received: from ocean.fmrco.com by fmrco.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14935; Thu, 11 Jul 96 11:25:33 EDT Received: from topsail by ocean.fmrco.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17900; Thu, 11 Jul 96 11:25:32 EDT Received: from localhost by topsail (4.1/Spike-2.1) id AA11701; Thu, 11 Jul 96 11:25:31 EDT Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:25:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Bobby Feung Kuo X-Sender: bkuo@topsail Reply-To: Bobby Feung Kuo To: Pine Developers Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug (ID V6763): Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-2143842749-396327819-837097319=:11613" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---2143842749-396327819-837097319=:11613 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: hi, i'm having a problem with pine 3.94 (running on sunos 4) hanging when i use display- and sending-filters. i originally encountered the problem when trying to integrate pgp scripts to automate encryption and decryption (using both the methods proposed by jie yuan and by roland rosenfeld), but i got the same problem using a non-pgp filter as well. here's the problem: using display-filters, the filter works the first time it is triggered, but the second time it is triggered, pine hangs, and i have to kill the pine process. this isn't pgp-specific--i tried using the display filter "" /bin/grep the and got the same problem--it worked the first time i read a message but not on subsequent messages. pine also hangs using sending filters--if i compose a message and then select a filter (e.g. pgpencrypt), pine hangs and i have to kill it. the message *does* get sent, however (and it's encrypted). i saw a message earlier about pine hanging on the second time you try to print something--i'm wondering if this is the same kind of problem. anyone have the same experience? thanks for any help! bob ---2143842749-396327819-837097319=:11613 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data Pine built Wed Jul 10 17:04:20 EDT 1996 on host: topsail ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = bkuo, full = Bobby Kuo home = /home/bkuo home_dir= /home/bkuo hostname= topsail localdom= topsail userdom= ariel.fmrco.com maildom= ariel.fmrco.com cur_cntxt= mail/[] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= inbox msgmap: tot=0, cur=0, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Date inbox is mail_stream term type=xterm, ttyname=/dev/ttyp3, size=47x81, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Bobby Feung Kuo user-id : bkuo user-domain : ariel.fmrco.com inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : mail/[] default-fcc : outbox default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail read-message-folder : tba signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook feature-list : old-growth : expanded-view-of-folders : signature-at-bottom : no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : select-without-confirm : show-selected-in-boldface : enable-mail-check-cue : auto-move-read-msgs : compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs : include-text-in-reply : enable-mouse-in-xterm : enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon initial-keystroke-li : i saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : date addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last composer-wrap-column : 74 reply-indent-string : > empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients image-viewer : xv use-only-domain-name : no printer : lpr standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 96.7 last-version-used : 3.94 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu suggest-fullname : Pine Developers suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu local-fullname : Local Support local-address : postmaster kblock-passwd-count : 1 viewer-overlap : 2 scroll-margin : 0 status-message-delay : 0 mail-check-interval : 60 elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/home/bkuo/.pinerc) ======= personal-name : Bobby Feung Kuo user-domain : ariel.fmrco.com folder-collections : mail/[] default-fcc : outbox read-message-folder : tba feature-list : old-growth : expanded-view-of-folders : signature-at-bottom : no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : select-without-confirm : show-selected-in-boldface : enable-mail-check-cue : auto-move-read-msgs : compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs : include-text-in-reply : enable-mouse-in-xterm : enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon initial-keystroke-li : i sort-key : date image-viewer : xv printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 96.7 last-version-used : 3.94 mail-check-interval : 60 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last composer-wrap-column : 74 reply-indent-string : > empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu suggest-fullname : Pine Developers suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu local-fullname : Local Support local-address : postmaster kblock-passwd-count : 1 viewer-overlap : 2 scroll-margin : 0 status-message-delay : 0 mail-check-interval : 150 elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-allow-talk no-assume-slow-link auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-auto-zoom-after-select no-auto-unzoom-after-apply no-compose-cut-from-cursor no-compose-maps-delete-key-to-ctrl-d compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-send-offers-first-filter no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-default-in-bug-report no-disable-busy-alarm no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-keymenu no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-disable-signature-edit-cmd no-enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation no-enable-8bit-nntp-posting enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-background-sending enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-cruise-mode no-enable-cruise-mode-delete no-enable-dot-files no-enable-dot-folders enable-flag-cmd no-enable-flag-screen-implicitly enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-goto-in-file-browser no-enable-incoming-folders enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue enable-mouse-in-xterm enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon enable-suspend enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-enable-verbose-smtp-posting expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-distribution-lists expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-fcc-on-bounce no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-pass-control-characters-as-is no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt no-print-includes-from-line no-print-index-enabled no-print-formfeed-between-messages no-quell-dead-letter-on-cancel no-quell-lock-failure-warnings no-quell-status-message-beeping no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file quit-without-confirm no-reply-always-uses-reply-to no-save-aggregates-copy-sequence no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance select-without-confirm no-show-cursor show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-single-column-folder-list no-tab-visits-next-new-message-only no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys no-use-sender-not-x-sender no-use-subshell-for-suspend ========== Latest keystrokes ========== m (0x006d) s (0x0073) c (0x0063) ^V (0x0016) ^V (0x0016) ^V (0x0016) ^V (0x0016) ^V (0x0016) ^V (0x0016) ^V (0x0016) ^V (0x0016) ^V (0x0016) ^V (0x0016) ^V (0x0016) ^V (0x0016) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) d (0x0064) y (0x0079) m (0x006d) e (0x0065) y (0x0079) r (0x0072) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) i (0x0069) e (0x0065) b (0x0062) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) RETURN (0x000d) ---2143842749-396327819-837097319=:11613-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:48:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29017; Thu, 11 Jul 96 08:48:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08918; Thu, 11 Jul 96 08:43:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08912; Thu, 11 Jul 96 08:43:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueNq5-00038BC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 08:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sfg9xarh@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (William Gill) Subject: MAIL-I'M NEW AT THIS AND I'VE SENT SEVEN LETTERS SO FAR TO THE SAME PERSON. NOT ONE HAS GOTTEN THROUGH. I'M TOLD IT WILL TAKE BETWEEN 4 HOURS AND FIVE DAYS.WHAT AM I DOING WRONG. HOPE YOU CAN HELP.M Date: 11 Jul 1996 14:10:31 GMT Message-Id: <4s320o$a1t@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29080; Thu, 11 Jul 96 08:51:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22150; Thu, 11 Jul 96 08:48:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22144; Thu, 11 Jul 96 08:48:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueNy4-00038TC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 08:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: MATHER Subject: Configuring arrow keys Date: 11 Jul 1996 13:25:18 GMT Message-Id: <4s2vbu$pls@test-sun.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How do I configure pine and pico so that my arrow keys actually send arrows to move the cursor? I am using wyse60 emulation if that is any help. Any reponse is appreciated. Mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 09:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29432; Thu, 11 Jul 96 09:07:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09485; Thu, 11 Jul 96 09:03:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09479; Thu, 11 Jul 96 09:03:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueOB3-00038BC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 09:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: hmm.. PLEASE HELP!! offline mail-writing.. Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:17:55 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, pHOo wrote: > let's say i'm writing some letters and use ^O so that they will be stored > in the postponed-msgs folder file.. Then i want to send ALL messages in > that folder! one way to do it is to go through every message in the > postpones-msgs folder and press C, ^X on every one.. very time consuming.. > so, please! isn't there anyway to send all msgs at one time? it doesnt > have to be done in pine, any unix command combination would do.. HELP! I am a bit puzzled. If you are postponing messages for no other reason than to try to be able to send them all at once, wouldn't it be easier simply just to send each one with ^X as soon as it is ready rather than save it with ^O and then horse around later trying to cobble together something which may or may not work sending the whole pile at once? Do you have some special reason for delaying transmission of messages and for sending multiple messages simultaneously? Perhaps a little more information might make it a little easier for people to offer technical suggestions. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:34:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30894; Thu, 11 Jul 96 10:34:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11935; Thu, 11 Jul 96 10:31:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs7.acs.ucalgary.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11929; Thu, 11 Jul 96 10:31:39 -0700 Received: from acs4.acs.ucalgary.ca(136.159.34.204) by ds1.acs.ucalgary.ca via smap (V1.3) id ZZ32248; Thu Jul 11 11:29:57 1996 Received: from localhost by acs4.acs.ucalgary.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA35950; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:29:56 -0600 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:29:56 -0600 (MDT) From: Debbie Teale To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: autowrapping in reply or forward Message-Id: Delivery-Receipt-To: teale@acs.ucalgary.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Users have received messages produced by Eudora Lite or Microsoft Exchange which do not have CR/LFs on the lines in the paragraph. AIX 3.94 pine or 3.91 PC-Pine nicely displays the body of the message however when replying or forwarding the message the lines are not wrapped for display purposes. Is there a feature or option to make this happen? Deborah Teale, email: teale@acs.ucalgary.ca University of Calgary, fax: (403)288-9199 Dept. of Univ. Computing Services phone: (403)220-4467 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:37:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30992; Thu, 11 Jul 96 10:37:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11975; Thu, 11 Jul 96 10:32:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from scls1.suffolk.lib.ny.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11969; Thu, 11 Jul 96 10:32:49 -0700 Received: from bookworm.suffolk.lib.ny.us ([199.173.91.81]) by scls1.suffolk.lib.ny.us (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA12110 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:37:20 -0400 Received: from localhost by bookworm.suffolk.lib.ny.us (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA28150; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:26:42 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:26:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Harold S." X-Sender: hshipman@bookworm To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug in Patron Menu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello I believe there may be a bug in the Patron Menu, or at least in mine. Under "new messages" it lists the New messages as 0 even though I have received several messages. The "Total messages" does show the correct quantity of messages received, but as I said new messages alway's is listed as 0. I don't know if anyone else is suffering with the same problem. Can this be corrected? Harold S, ============================ Harolds Horrible House of Hieroglyphics O O | \_/ =========== =============================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31348; Thu, 11 Jul 96 10:55:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25443; Thu, 11 Jul 96 10:48:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25437; Thu, 11 Jul 96 10:48:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uePnt-00038BC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 10:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ray McKinney Subject: Pine and Lynx Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:12:21 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I am trying to use pine's display filters to run lynx to view an HTML document sent to me via email. After several attempts, I can't seem to get it right. What is wrong with placing this in the display filters section of the config? "" /usr/local/bin/lynx -force_html _TMPFILE_ I get Permission denied as an error message. The only thing I can thinkof is that _TMPFILE_ is unable to be read, since I have tried things like "html" /usr/bin/cat _TMPFILE_ with the same result. Thanks Ray -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Digital signature prevents alteration of this document iQCVAwUBMeU1/8mUJGcZVs4ZAQEjFwP/UWLrISDeyESGKYaEf4R57Ta8lOpOo2JT fe74wOVPAIlH2j/+ihz88TdsnfZQ9ue7FQ++VbP3lu6qDIfLpGqg52lSII7iDzVp uEnls9ZoTSLcQv1grh4PHMXt40gSweOTmdriwPot7VIIbEUAQm/CgZBB+JXvIlzc W+w5t0ixmmQ= =SFcZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31466; Thu, 11 Jul 96 11:05:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12816; Thu, 11 Jul 96 10:59:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12810; Thu, 11 Jul 96 10:59:06 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 12 Jul 96 02:03:13 +0800 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 01:56:56 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Debbie Teale Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: autowrapping in reply or forward In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Debbie Teale wrote: > Users have received messages produced by Eudora Lite or Microsoft Exchange > which do not have CR/LFs on the lines in the paragraph. AIX 3.94 pine or > 3.91 PC-Pine nicely displays the body of the message however when replying > or forwarding the message the lines are not wrapped for display purposes. > > Is there a feature or option to make this happen? Yep. Put you cursor on the offending looong line and hit ^J (Cntrl-J). It'll "justify" it.... Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:41:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32254; Thu, 11 Jul 96 11:41:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13990; Thu, 11 Jul 96 11:38:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13984; Thu, 11 Jul 96 11:38:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueQbu-00038BC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 11:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: MACDADDY Subject: FINGER PROGRAM (for Pine 3.93) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 02:05:45 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear all, I know there is a 'fingering" program which tells the user when his/her specified receipients are logged on/off, while the user is logged on. (The user does not have to finger the email addresses individually, this program has the capability to generate who has just logged on or off). Can anyone point me to an internet site or source to dowload this program. 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From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00240; Thu, 11 Jul 96 12:36:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15372; Thu, 11 Jul 96 12:33:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15366; Thu, 11 Jul 96 12:33:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueRQ2-00038BC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 12:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: HELP: vi with Pine Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 19:06:44 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4s0urp$f7h@news.csus.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4s0urp$f7h@news.csus.edu> On 10 Jul 1996, PETER JAY SALZMAN wrote: > I would really like to use vi with Pine instead of Pico. How can I do > this? No problem. > Actually, I would like Pine to use vi as the primary editor, not an > alternate that I can choose once a mail session has begun. I noticed > there is an "alternate editor" line in .pinerc. What about for the > primary editor? From the Main Menu, go into Setup and Config. (By the way, I am assuming that your Pine is at least at version 3.91 and is not PC-Pine.) Scroll down a ways and check "enable-alternate-editor-implicitly." Then scroll down almost to the bottom of the configuration options and in the "editor" field fill in the full path to vi (/usr/ucb/vi or whatever it is on your machine). That's all there is to it. Then, whenever you start to compose an actual message body or initiate a reply, you will get vi instead of the Pine composer (Pico). Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:11:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00840; Thu, 11 Jul 96 13:11:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29072; Thu, 11 Jul 96 13:02:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from merchantstire.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29054; Thu, 11 Jul 96 13:02:01 -0700 Received: from mail.pub.merchantstire.com ([205.216.235.133]) by gargoyle.dmz.merchantstire.com via smtpd (for mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) with SMTP; 11 Jul 1996 19:55:23 UT Received: from gargoyle.pub.merchantstire.com (gargoyle.pub.merchantstire.com [205.216.235.129]) by mail.pub.merchantstire.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA09549 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:02:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from primary194.corp.merchantstire.com ([205.216.235.194]) by gargoyle.pub.merchantstire.com via smtpd (for mail.pub.merchantstire.com [205.216.235.133]) with SMTP; 11 Jul 1996 19:55:20 UT Received: by merchantstire.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA12565; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:59:29 GMT Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:59:28 +0000 (GMT) From: Carl Dunn III X-Sender: carld@primary To: Pine Mailing List Subject: Problem with 3.94 install Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We are running pine 3.94 (compiled with gcc-2.7.2 and SunPro) and having a major problem using imap type mailboxes. The systems are DX4/100's with 24 MB of memory, and when we run pine opening a imap mailbox, the whole system hangs. Trussing pine doesn't show anything out of the ordinary. We have to reboot the system since it locks up so badly. Anyone have any ideas? > . , > .:/ > . ,,///;, ,;/ Carl H. Dunn III > . o:::::::;;/// Merchants Inc. > >::::::::;;\\\ carld@merchantstire.com > ''\\\\\'" ';\ Jr. Systems Administrator > ';\ > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01683; Thu, 11 Jul 96 14:11:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01199; Thu, 11 Jul 96 14:09:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01193; Thu, 11 Jul 96 14:09:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueSxj-00038BC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 14:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rfunk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Rob Funk) Subject: Re: Pine and Lynx Date: 11 Jul 1996 17:52:56 GMT Message-Id: <4s3f1o$m11@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: In article , Ray McKinney wrote: >I am trying to use pine's display filters to run lynx to view an HTML >document sent to me via email. After several attempts, I can't seem >to get it right. I think you're going at it from the wrong end. Add this line to your $HOME/.mailcap (or whatever mailcap your pine looks at): text/html ; lynx -force_html %s ; needsterminal -- ------------- R o b F u n k -------------|---------> funk+@osu.edu <--------- "A microscope locked in on one point |rfunk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Never sees what kind of room that it's in"|rfunk@freenet.columbus.oh.us -- Chris Mars, "Stuck in Rewind" |http://er4www.eng.ohio-state.edu/~funkr From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01954; Thu, 11 Jul 96 14:15:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18118; Thu, 11 Jul 96 14:12:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs7.acs.ucalgary.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18112; Thu, 11 Jul 96 14:12:46 -0700 Received: from teale.acs.ucalgary.ca(136.159.22.142) by ds1.acs.ucalgary.ca via smap (V1.3) id ZZ16388; Thu Jul 11 15:10:52 1996 From: "Deborah Teale, UCS" To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: autowrapping in reply or forward Message-Id: Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:12:56 -0400 (EDT) Priority: NORMAL X-Mailer: Simeon for Windows Version 4.0.7 X-Authentication: none Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Thanks, Ed, I appreciate the simple reply (got to space around the > though) however it would be nicer to handle it on a wider perspective. I would think it would be in the SMTP protocol not to create long lines. As an aside we also use Simeon and it doesn't wrap it in the viewer like pine or elm does so it is an annoyance for recipients. On Fri, 12 Jul 1996 01:56:56 +0800 (GMT) Ed Greshko wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Debbie Teale wrote: > > > Users have received messages produced by Eudora Lite or Microsoft Exchange > > which do not have CR/LFs on the lines in the paragraph. AIX 3.94 pine or > > 3.91 PC-Pine nicely displays the body of the message however when replying > > or forwarding the message the lines are not wrapped for display purposes. > > > > Is there a feature or option to make this happen? > > Yep. Put you cursor on the offending looong line and hit > ^J (Cntrl-J). It'll "justify" it.... > > Regards, > > Ed > > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > ---------------------- Deborah Teale teale@acs.ucalgary.ca From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02141; Thu, 11 Jul 96 14:26:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18520; Thu, 11 Jul 96 14:24:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18514; Thu, 11 Jul 96 14:24:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueTAr-00038BC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 14:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: MMILLER@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (Michael Miller) Subject: Need to stack a ctrl-L after printing Date: Thu, 11 Jul 96 17:19:33 EDT Message-Id: <177C1F3A5S86.MMILLER@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> I have a 'generic' print command ( a perl program called UGAPRINT ) we would like to set as the default print command in Pine. The UGAPRINT command displays a menu of the student labs on campus as well as a 'print-to-ansi' option. I do an open(MYTTY,'+>/dev/tty/') to get control of the screen to display the menu and interact with the user. It handles the piped input from Pine fine, but when it gets back to Pine, the screen is blank (or mostly blank) and one has to do a ctrl-L to redraw the screen. I'm looking for a way to 'stack' a ctrl-L after the print. Everything I do from my print program gets captured for display on the status line. I looked briefly at the Pine code and tried doing an ungetc at the end of close_printer thinking that read_command would pick it up, but that approach did not seem to work. Any suggestion you have on how to approach this (like the best place in the Pine code to force a redraw after a print) would be appreciated. The brute force way appears to be duplicating secitons of code in routines addrbook.c , folder.c , help.c , mailcmd.c , mailview.c , and other.c but I want to avoid that if I can. Thanks in Advance, Michael From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02444; Thu, 11 Jul 96 14:48:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02272; Thu, 11 Jul 96 14:44:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02264; Thu, 11 Jul 96 14:44:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueTTo-00038BC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 14:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stesch@parsec.inka.de (Stefan Scholl) Subject: Re: 8-bit newsposting doesn't work! Date: 11 Jul 1996 20:33:00 GMT Message-Id: <4s3ods$grr@parsec.inka.de> References: <4rt2p7$2fc@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Just check the source. Pine 3.94 has the 8-bit-support removed. It always uses quoted-printable, even with ESMTP. Well, it's not totally removed. You can fix it easily. You can find a complex patch ftp://wuff.franken.de//pub/linux/mail/ And here is a simpler patch: *** send.c.orig Sun Jul 7 03:45:18 1996 --- send.c Sun Jul 7 04:15:30 1996 *************** *** 6074,6080 **** switch (body->encoding) { /* all else needs filtering */ case ENC8BIT: /* encode 8BIT into QUOTED-PRINTABLE */ ! gf_link_filter(gf_8bit_qp); break; case ENCBINARY: /* encode binary into BASE64 */ --- 6074,6080 ---- switch (body->encoding) { /* all else needs filtering */ case ENC8BIT: /* encode 8BIT into QUOTED-PRINTABLE */ ! break; case ENCBINARY: /* encode binary into BASE64 */ *************** *** 6131,6142 **** strcpy (*dst += strlen (*dst),"\015\012"); if (body->encoding) /* note: encoding 7BIT never output! */ sprintf (*dst += strlen (*dst), "Content-Transfer-Encoding: %s\015\012", ! body_encodings[(body->encoding == ENCBINARY) ! ? ENCBASE64 ! : (body->encoding == ENC8BIT) ! ? ENCQUOTEDPRINTABLE ! : (body->encoding <= ENCMAX) ! ? body->encoding : ENCOTHER]); if (body->id) sprintf (*dst += strlen (*dst),"Content-ID: %s\015\012", body->id); if (body->description) --- 6131,6141 ---- strcpy (*dst += strlen (*dst),"\015\012"); if (body->encoding) /* note: encoding 7BIT never output! */ sprintf (*dst += strlen (*dst), "Content-Transfer-Encoding: %s\015\012", ! body_encodings[body->encoding == ENCBINARY ? ENCBASE64 : ! body->encoding == ENC8BIT ? ENC8BIT : ! body->encoding <= ENCMAX ? body->encoding : ! ENCOTHER]); ! if (body->id) sprintf (*dst += strlen (*dst),"Content-ID: %s\015\012", body->id); if (body->description) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02497; Thu, 11 Jul 96 14:51:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19188; Thu, 11 Jul 96 14:49:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19182; Thu, 11 Jul 96 14:49:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueTbQ-00038TC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 14:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu (Annelise Anderson) Subject: Re: Compiling pine on FreeBSD Date: 11 Jul 1996 19:33:46 GMT Message-Id: <4s3kuq$a7t@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <4s1908$hg7@news.hits.net> Chris Wong (wongc@hits.net) wrote: : Does anybody have any experience compiling pine 3.94 for FreeBSD... It : kindof escapes me. I've been hacking at the code for a week now. : Thank you. : __ : Chris There's a port of pine 3.94 available at ftp.freebsd.org in the FreeBSD/incoming directory. Annelise From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03133; Thu, 11 Jul 96 15:34:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20276; Thu, 11 Jul 96 15:33:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ginch.dial.umd.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20270; Thu, 11 Jul 96 15:33:11 -0700 Received: from localhost (cerberus@localhost) by ginch.dial.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA30251; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:33:05 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:33:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Cerberus To: Annelise Anderson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Compiling pine on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <4s3kuq$a7t@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 11 Jul 1996, Annelise Anderson wrote: > Chris Wong (wongc@hits.net) wrote: > : Does anybody have any experience compiling pine 3.94 for FreeBSD... It > : kindof escapes me. I've been hacking at the code for a week now. > > There's a port of pine 3.94 available at ftp.freebsd.org in the > FreeBSD/incoming directory. Actually, from a little bit of trial and error, pine 3.94 builds and works flawlessly (from what i've been able to tell) if you select netbsd ('build neb' i think) as the platform you are building for. Hope I'm able to help. -dave -- cerberus@ginch.dial.umd.edu, cerb@glue.umd.edu http://ginch.dial.umd.edu/ software is cheap fast and reliable (pick two). All day, everyday, chasing doughnuts up a hill. RIP: Freedom of Speech. 1776-1996. It was good while it lasted. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:21:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02338; Thu, 11 Jul 96 16:21:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04883; Thu, 11 Jul 96 16:19:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04877; Thu, 11 Jul 96 16:19:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueUzJ-00038BC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 16:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Berkeley folder collections with innosoft pine on VMS Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:45:22 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If, for reasons too tedious to go into, one has berkeley style mailboxes on VMS, how does one set up folder collection? -jeff -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "I am much fonder of my critics than I am of my fans." --Thomas Kuhn (d 1996) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04298; Thu, 11 Jul 96 16:39:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21837; Thu, 11 Jul 96 16:34:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21831; Thu, 11 Jul 96 16:34:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueVAr-00038BC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 16:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: conrads@dolphin.neosoft.com (Conrad Sabatier) Subject: Re: MAIL-I'M NEW AT THIS AND I'VE SENT SEVEN LETTERS SO FAR TO THE SAME PERSON. NOT ONE HAS GOTTEN THROUGH. I'M TOLD IT WILL TAKE BETWEEN 4 HOURS AND FIVE DAYS.WHAT AM I DOING WRONG. HOPE YOU CAN HELP.M Date: 11 Jul 1996 23:17:53 GMT Message-Id: <4s4231$1bv@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <4s320o$a1t@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> In article <4s320o$a1t@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us>, William Gill wrote: You're probably doing *nothing* wrong. :-) Sometimes one or more machines along the way will be down and your local mail server will send you a message informing you that they were unable to deliver your mail, but that they'll continue to try for some period of time. Relax. Eventually it *should* get through. :-) -- Conrad Sabatier -- http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04728; Thu, 11 Jul 96 17:11:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06153; Thu, 11 Jul 96 17:09:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06147; Thu, 11 Jul 96 17:09:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueVll-00038BC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 17:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: nice pgp and pine interface? Date: 10 Jul 1996 18:28:40 GMT Message-Id: <4s0soo$21t@babbage.ece.uc.edu> References: <4rbst0$p9n@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> In article <4rv3qv$b5q@ccshst05.uoguelph.ca>, showie@uoguelph.ca (Steve Howie) writes: >Andreas Klemm (andreas@klemm.gtn.com) wrote: >: In article <4rbst0$p9n@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu>, >: sbaillar@attila.stevens-tech.edu (Songkun Baillargeon) writes: >: > s there a nice PGP and Pine interface or do I have to keep saving and >: > blah blah blah??? >: >: PinePGP, ask kujawa@montana.com >: > >Also try 'mkpgp' ... forget the authors address though > Also my web page for configuring pgp in pine 3.92 (or newer). It is simple and can be used under csh, ksh, sh, etc., and it does NOT need Perl. Well, it is for unix pine. I am not sure how to do pc pine. http://www.pharm.med.uc.edu/~yuan/pine_pgp.html Cheers! Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu for my PGP pub. key= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04729; Thu, 11 Jul 96 17:11:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22923; Thu, 11 Jul 96 17:09:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22917; Thu, 11 Jul 96 17:09:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueVly-00038TC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 17:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: How to set up a Vacation Auto-respond? Date: 10 Jul 1996 18:30:51 GMT Message-Id: <4s0ssr$21t@babbage.ece.uc.edu> References: <4quedo$dok@newz.oit.unc.edu> In-Reply-To: <4quedo$dok@newz.oit.unc.edu> In article <4quedo$dok@newz.oit.unc.edu>, seaelle@email.unc.edu (C Lassiter) writes: >Well, that pretty much says it all. When one is away, how does one set >up an autoresponse informing others to contact someone else in the >office--so they won't wonder why they're getting no response for 10 days. If you are on Unix, do a "man vacation" for more info. Any way, Pine does not do this kind of chore. Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu for my PGP pub. key= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04914; Thu, 11 Jul 96 17:20:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06358; Thu, 11 Jul 96 17:19:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06352; Thu, 11 Jul 96 17:19:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueVtR-00038BC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 17:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: byersa@cfw.com (Al Byers) Subject: Attaching files on command line Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 16:50:34 GMT Message-Id: <4rrp59$2b4@cutter.cfw.com> I would like to be able to attach files to a message from within a shell script that produces the same type of message as when I attach files from within pine. Is it possible to do this with pine? If not, does anyone have any other suggestions? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05960; Thu, 11 Jul 96 19:16:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08161; Thu, 11 Jul 96 19:14:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08155; Thu, 11 Jul 96 19:14:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueXgo-00038BC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 19:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: R R Neuswanger Subject: English vs. computerese (was: Expunge) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:41:28 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It so happens that I'm a historian of tongues. I know very well what the word 'expunge' means in normal English, and what its history is, too. That does not for one moment imply that I have some magical insight into the electronic details of the function which the pine builders choose to designate by that term -- any more than most native speakers of English would know what mathematicians choose to designate by such terms as 'everywhere dense,' 'locally differentiable,' 'existential quantifier,' 'pairwise disjoint,' or a whole host of others. Nor should they. To suppose otherwise is an abuse of this forum, which for years has been exemplary in its courtesy to the inquiring. I have not previously seen an outburst of profanity nor any other sort of absurd high dudgeon -- especially against a relative newcomer, least of all from another newcomer. What's more, the (online!) manual for pine is one of the least useful I've encountered: you practically have to be a unix guru even to find anything in it, let alone make sense of it. It is true that the context-sensitive help is better -- but, by its very brevity, often less than an intermediate user really wants. In particular, other mailers (such as both of my others) have a file13 into which deleted messages go; one can even sometimes set the default retention period on it. That turns out to be a useful feature: if I delete something in error, or only discover three days later that I had another use for it, I can still recover. I would wish that pine acquire some such feature -- unless it's already there (in 3.93) and I haven't spotted it yet .... As for the hothead who couldn't control his ire, I have put him into a killfile on my skimming reader (I wish pine had them!), and will bounce anything that comes to my pine account from that address. Ten to one most of you feel the same. -- Hmmm: I wonder if it was even genuine. The diatribe did seem a little _too_ vacuous, overblown, and long-winded; and the poster wasn't familiar. Maybe some nut was just looking for a place to flame something, and Ms. Scanlon was the first target (s)he found; there are people on the Net who are low enough to do that .... R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life rrne@loc.gov Self-defense: the most I speak for me. Only. basic human right. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05989; Thu, 11 Jul 96 19:21:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25067; Thu, 11 Jul 96 19:19:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25061; Thu, 11 Jul 96 19:19:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueXmq-00038BC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 19:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Daniel Murphy Subject: New features in 3.94 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:12:59 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all. Our provider just switched over to Pine V3.94 and although I have had no trouble using it so far, I was looking at some of the new features in the setup section and kept seeing references to something called the "file browser." can anyone tell me what this is and what it is for? I see no reference to in in any of the menus. thanks. dan Murphy N1BVM From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06100; Thu, 11 Jul 96 19:36:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08432; Thu, 11 Jul 96 19:34:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc1.nerc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08426; Thu, 11 Jul 96 19:34:36 -0700 Received: from nerc.com ([205.247.120.229]) by nerc1.nerc.com (8.6.9/8.6.7) with ESMTP id WAA25247; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:34:34 -0400 Received: (from luomat@localhost) by nerc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA01720; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:33:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607120233.WAA01720@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: <4rrp59$2b4@cutter.cfw.com> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.3) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Thu, 11 Jul 96 22:33:52 -0400 To: byersa@cfw.com (Al Byers) Subject: Re: Attaching files on command line Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Reply-To: luomat@nerc.com References: <4rrp59$2b4@cutter.cfw.com> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat byersa@cfw.com (Al Byers) on Mon, 08 Jul 1996 wrote: > I would like to be able to attach files to a message from within a > shell script that produces the same type of message as when I > attach files from within pine. Is it possible to do this with pine? I don't think it can be done with pine, > If not, does anyone have any other suggestions? You might try 'mpack' If you want a copy of the manpage, send me a message with the SUBJECT send-ascii mpack.1 I use 'mpack' in my procmail RC file to send people auto-responses via MIMEmail. TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma NeXTMail adored! (MIME/SUN also accepted) NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info Now in infancy: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:48:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07756; Thu, 11 Jul 96 23:48:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11496; Thu, 11 Jul 96 23:45:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11490; Thu, 11 Jul 96 23:45:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uebuK-00038BC; Thu, 11 Jul 96 23:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dmd@wilde.oit.umass.edu (Daniel M. Drucker) Subject: Re: Copying addresses to address book Date: 9 Jul 1996 20:36:19 -0400 Message-Id: <4rutu3$221@wilde.oit.umass.edu> References: <4rtlu9$1fu@milo.vcn.bc.ca> >Is it possible to copy an address from a received message into the >address book? The TakeAddr command is for just that. Try 'T' while you're on the message. -- [ Daniel M. Drucker / dmd@3e.org ] "This isn't right. This isn't even -wrong-." -- Wolfgang Pauli From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08073; Fri, 12 Jul 96 00:33:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28742; Fri, 12 Jul 96 00:30:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from info2.info.tampere.fi by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28736; Fri, 12 Jul 96 00:30:25 -0700 Received: from bassie.info.tampere.fi by info2.info.tampere.fi with ESMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA150546732; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:32:12 +0300 Received: from bassie.info.tampere.fi (juhas@bassie.info.tampere.fi [194.188.233.227]) by bassie.info.tampere.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA31287; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:29:52 +0300 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:29:52 +0300 (EET DST) From: Juha Suhonen To: Paul O Bartlett Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: hmm.. PLEASE HELP!! offline mail-writing.. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:17:55 -0400 > From: Paul O Bartlett > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: hmm.. PLEASE HELP!! offline mail-writing.. > > I am a bit puzzled. If you are postponing messages for no other > reason than to try to be able to send them all at once, wouldn't it be > easier simply just to send each one with ^X as soon as it is ready > rather than save it with ^O and then horse around later trying to > cobble together something which may or may not work sending the whole > pile at once? Do you have some special reason for delaying > transmission of messages and for sending multiple messages > simultaneously? Perhaps a little more information might make it a > little easier for people to offer technical suggestions. Doesn't the _subject_ say it? OFFLINE mail writing? :) (Ie SLIP link, not always up, user wants to read mails off-line..) JuhaS From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:34:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08170; Fri, 12 Jul 96 00:34:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28766; Fri, 12 Jul 96 00:31:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hermes.cti.gr by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28760; Fri, 12 Jul 96 00:31:33 -0700 From: Pan.Dimakopoulos@cti.gr Received: (from dimakop@localhost) by hermes.cti.gr (8.7.4/8.7.3) id KAA29395; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:29:20 +0300 (EET DST) Organization: Computer Technology Institute - (CTI) Kolokotroni 3, 262 21 Patras, P.O.Box 1122, 261 10 Patras, Greece Tel: +30(61)992061, 994317-18 Fax: +30(61)993973, 222086 TELEX: 312515 CTI GR Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:29:19 +0300 (EET DST) To: Jie Yuan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to set up a Vacation Auto-respond? In-Reply-To: <4s0ssr$21t@babbage.ece.uc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 10 Jul 1996, Jie Yuan wrote: > In article <4quedo$dok@newz.oit.unc.edu>, > seaelle@email.unc.edu (C Lassiter) writes: > >Well, that pretty much says it all. When one is away, how does one set > >up an autoresponse informing others to contact someone else in the > >office--so they won't wonder why they're getting no response for 10 days. > > > If you are on Unix, do a "man vacation" for more info. Any way, Pine > does not do this kind of chore. > > > Jie > -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- > == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == > == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == > == finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu for my PGP pub. key= > > We had set up the vacation utility to auto answer but it did not decode MIME messages when we wanted to include a piece of the received message (the subject for instance) in the answer. Does anybody know if procmail or any other auto answer package can do this properly? Thank you, ------------------------------------------------------ | Panos Dimakopoulos dimakop@cti.gr | | COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY INSTITUTE | | P.O. Box 1122 | | 261 10 Patras, Greece | | Tel (+30) 61 992061, 994317 Fax (+30) 61 993973 | ------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08220; Fri, 12 Jul 96 00:38:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28856; Fri, 12 Jul 96 00:36:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from info2.info.tampere.fi by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28850; Fri, 12 Jul 96 00:36:18 -0700 Received: from bassie.info.tampere.fi by info2.info.tampere.fi with ESMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA150657085; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:38:05 +0300 Received: from bassie.info.tampere.fi (juhas@bassie.info.tampere.fi [194.188.233.227]) by bassie.info.tampere.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA31308; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:35:04 +0300 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:35:04 +0300 (EET DST) From: Juha Suhonen To: HLD PUBLISHING Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Is your computer being bugged???? 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HLD PUBLISHING COMPANY will protect and maintain its interest. > > JuhaS /-----------------------------------------------------\ | J u h a S u h o n e n | | - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - | | juhas@bassie.info.tampere.fi | | http://www.bassie.info.tampere.fi/ | | http://Www.Great.fi/%7Ejuhas/ | \-----------------------------------------------------/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08371; Fri, 12 Jul 96 00:53:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29103; Fri, 12 Jul 96 00:51:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from info2.info.tampere.fi by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29097; Fri, 12 Jul 96 00:51:00 -0700 Received: from bassie.info.tampere.fi by info2.info.tampere.fi with ESMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA150807967; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:52:48 +0300 Received: from bassie.info.tampere.fi (juhas@bassie.info.tampere.fi [194.188.233.227]) by bassie.info.tampere.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA31471; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:50:28 +0300 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:50:27 +0300 (EET DST) From: Juha Suhonen To: Stefan Scholl Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: 8-bit newsposting doesn't work! In-Reply-To: <4s3ods$grr@parsec.inka.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 11 Jul 1996, Stefan Scholl wrote: > Date: 11 Jul 1996 20:33:00 GMT > From: Stefan Scholl > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: 8-bit newsposting doesn't work! > > Pine 3.94 has the 8-bit-support removed. It always uses > quoted-printable, even with ESMTP. > Well, it's not totally removed. You can fix it easily. > And here is a simpler patch: Applied your simpler patch, haven't tested it yet. But _why_ was it removed? JuhaS From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 01:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08558; Fri, 12 Jul 96 01:22:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29512; Fri, 12 Jul 96 01:20:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29506; Fri, 12 Jul 96 01:20:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uedPV-00038BC; Fri, 12 Jul 96 01:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Adam Subject: Re: Bounce crash (3.94) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:15:56 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 6 Jul 1996, Out of his mind wrote: > Whenever a message operation (read, bounce, forward, reply, etc.) is done > immediately after a bounce on some platforms (NetBSD, FreeBSD, and UnixWare > all exhibit this behavior), Pine crashes I'm getting this in Solaris 2.5 as well, but it came on me all of a sudden, and other users on the same system can't duplicate it. I'm wondering if there's an INBOX corruption involved? Are the other people who are getting this reading their mail on the same system they're invoking PINE from, or remotely? Adam -- Never retreat. Never explain. adam@utopia.com Get it done and let them howl. adam hirsch - Benjamin Jowett (1817-1893) http://www.utopia.com/talent/adam/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 02:07:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08839; Fri, 12 Jul 96 02:07:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13249; Fri, 12 Jul 96 02:05:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13243; Fri, 12 Jul 96 02:05:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uee6T-00038BC; Fri, 12 Jul 96 02:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thu@satellite.oulu.fi (Thomas Ulich) Subject: Again: expunge Date: 12 Jul 1996 08:48:05 GMT Message-Id: <4s53g5$8p3@ousrvr3.oulu.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Referring mostly to this "Bovine Remailer" type of guy, who seems to have lost his own education, namely good manners, somewhere on the road between his childhood and the moment of his news posting. I prefer people who do not know certain facts over people who can't behave. Back to the subject: EXPUNGE To all of this discussion I might add my personal guess, that the vast majority of pine users around the planet are non-native speakers of English, and at least I heard the word "expunge" for the first time in my life, when pine asked whether to expunge a message or not. And I really needed the help of a dictionary to figure out what this all is about. Thus, I consider the use of this term confusing, at least it is not immediately clear to everyone what it means. This is against the idea of pine, to provide an easy to use mail program. Yes, probably there are many more things in pine which are against this idea, and yes, maybe it is true, that one has to be a UNIX Guru to work things out... I cannot really judge this, because I happen to know UN*X very well, and I am using the network and e-mail for a long time now. But this is a strong argument as to whether or not "expunge" is a easy word, that when I as a somewhat experienced user changed from elm to pine about half a year ago, I ran into troubles. And the moral? Never flame somebody today for what you might do yourself tomorrow, i.e., asking for something you do not know! All the best from the land of the midnight sun, -- Thomas Ulich NEW e-mail: thomas.ulich@sgo.fi www: http://cc.oulu.fi/~thu/ Inuit say: He who looks long upon the aurora soon goes mad. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 02:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09095; Fri, 12 Jul 96 02:45:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00228; Fri, 12 Jul 96 02:15:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00222; Fri, 12 Jul 96 02:15:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueeGh-00038BC; Fri, 12 Jul 96 02:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: Re: 8-bit newsposting doesn't work! Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:36:52 +0300 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT In-Reply-To: On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, David L Miller wrote: > > On 10 Jul 1996 nobody@psg.com wrote: > > > I am sorry to be the only one who keeps moaning about this capability. > > I hope I am not doing anything wrong. > > > > > > Well, following is the description of one of my many tests where > > 8 bit posting proves unsuccessful. > > I am posting a mail message with greek characters both in the body > > and in the subject. > > Looking at the configuration information in your debug output, I see > the problem... > > > Debug output of the Pine program (at debug level 5). Version 3.94 > > Wed Jul 10 11:33:47 1996 > > > ... > > reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed" > > Read 10193 characters: > > feature-list : signature-at-bottom > > : enable-mail-check-cue > > : enable-bounce-cmd > > : enable-flag-cmd > > : enable-unix-pipe-cmd > > : enable-full-header-cmd > > : enable-8bit-nntp-posting > > sendmail-path : /usr/lib/sendmail -oem -t -oi > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > As noted in the Pine technical notes, setting sendmail-path in > pine.conf.fixed overrides all other sendmail-path/smtp-server > settings. It also _disables_ ESMTP negotiation, since there is no way > to perform such negotiation when invoking sendmail with "-t".... > > I hope that clears things up a bit! > > --DLM > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > Thank you for your comments. I followed your suggestion and I send a mail message with enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation and without any sendmail fixed path in any of the configuration files. Now I got 8 bits passed through but for the body only - the subject arrived encoded in MIME. I am including the message as it is kept in the mail box in the arriving host and the debug output of pine -d 9. (The direction of my mailing now is the other way round compared to the previous test I sent to the pine list yesterday. Now the mail was sent from dimakop@thalis.ceid.upatras.gr to dimakop@hermes.cti.gr) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message in INBOX file: From Pan.Dimakopoulos@ceid.upatras.gr Fri Jul 12 11:13 EET 1996 Received: from thalis.ceid.upatras.gr (thalis.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.5.34]) by hermes.cti.gr (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA00085 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:13:34 +0300 (EET DST) Kolokotroni 3, 262 21 Patras, P.O.Box 1122, 261 10 Patras, Greece Tel: +30(61)992061, 994317-18 Fax: +30(61)993973, 222086 TELEX: 312515 CTI GR Received: from localhost (dimakop@localhost) by thalis.ceid.upatras.gr (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA12147 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:13:50 +0300 (EET DST) Organization: Computer Technology Institute - (CTI) Kolokotroni 3, 262 21 Patras, P.O.Box 1122, 261 10 Patras, Greece Tel: +30(61)992061, 994317-18 Fax: +30(61)993973, 222086 TELEX: 312515 CTI GR X-Authentication-Warning: thalis.ceid.upatras.gr: dimakop owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:13:50 +0300 (EET DST) From: Dimakopoulos Panagiotis To: dimakop@hermes.cti.gr Subject: =?ISO-8859-7?B?xO/q6ezc5u/t9OHyIPDc6+kg9OEgOA==?= Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Length: 19 Status: RO X-Status: áâãäåæ çèéê ëìíîï ------------------------------------------------------ | Panos Dimakopoulos dimakop@cti.gr | | COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY INSTITUTE | | P.O. Box 1122 | | 261 10 Patras, Greece | | Tel (+30) 61 992061, 994317 Fax (+30) 61 993973 | ------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------------------------------------- .pine-debug at debugging level 9 follows: Debug output of the Pine program (at debug level 9). Version 3.94 Fri Jul 12 11:13:15 1996 reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf" Read 5582 characters: user-domain : ceid.upatras.gr nntp-server : news.cti.gr folder-collections : Personal-folders mail/[] : ceid-announces /usr/spool/mail/[ctiprin] : unix-announces /usr/spool/mail/[unix*] news-collections : "Local Bulletins & Usenet News" *{news.cti.gr/nntp}[] sort-key : date character-set : ISO-8859-7 printer : cca_4mp personal-print-comma : lpr reading_pinerc "/u1/cticf/dimakop/.pinerc" Read 10013 characters: personal-name : Dimakopoulos Panagiotis feature-list : enable-8bit-nntp-posting : enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation image-viewer : /usr/bin/X11/xv last-time-prune-ques : 96.7 last-version-used : 3.94 reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed" Read 824 characters: user-domain : ceid.upatras.gr nntp-server : news.cti.gr folder-collections : Personal-folders Mail/[] : Local newsgroups /usr/spool/mail/pine-folders/[] personal-print-comma : lpr standard-printer : cca_4mp bugs-fullname : System Administrator bugs-address : root@ceid.upatras.gr set_current_val(var num=5, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=2, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=36, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=33, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=34, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=75, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=37, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=38, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=personal-print-command counted 1 items set_current_val(var num=40, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=standard-printer counted 1 items set_current_val(var num=41, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=43, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=44, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=46, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=47, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=48, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=49, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=45, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=51, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=11, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=13, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=15, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=30, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=31, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=35, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=3, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=smtp-server set_current_val(var num=21, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=default-composer-hdrs set_current_val(var num=22, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=customized-hdrs set_current_val(var num=52, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=54, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=display-filters set_current_val(var num=55, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=sending-filters set_current_val(var num=56, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=alt-addresses set_current_val(var num=57, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=addressbook-formats set_current_val(var num=53, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=58, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=39, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=59, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=60, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=32, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=61, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=62, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=63, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=64, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=65, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=12, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=76, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=77, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=16, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=29, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=17, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=global-address-book set_current_val(var num=18, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=address-book counted 1 items set_current_val(var num=50, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=forced-abook-entry set_current_val(var num=4, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=nntp-server counted 1 items set_current_val(var num=23, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=viewer-hdrs set_current_val(var num=66, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=67, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=68, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=69, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=70, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=71, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=72, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=73, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=42, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=74, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=80, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=14, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=10, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=pruned-folders set_current_val(var num=9, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=incoming-archive-folders set_current_val(var num=6, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=incoming-folders set_current_val(var num=8, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=news-collections counted 1 items set_current_val(var num=7, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=folder-collections counted 2 items set_current_val(var num=26, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=24, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=25, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=27, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=28, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=20, expand=0, cmdline=1) is_list: name=initial-keystroke-list ======= Current_val options set ======= user-domain : ceid.upatras.gr nntp-server : news.cti.gr inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : Personal-folders Mail/[] : Local newsgroups /usr/spool/mail/pine-folders/[] news-collections : "Local Bulletins & Usenet News" *{news.cti.gr/nntp}[] default-fcc : "" default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook feature-list : enable-8bit-nntp-posting : enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : date addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last character-set : ISO-8859-7 composer-wrap-column : 74 reply-indent-string : > empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients image-viewer : /usr/bin/X11/xv use-only-domain-name : no printer : cca_4mp personal-print-comma : lpr standard-printer : cca_4mp last-time-prune-ques : 96.7 last-version-used : 3.94 bugs-fullname : System Administrator bugs-address : root@ceid.upatras.gr suggest-fullname : Pine Developers suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu local-fullname : Local Support local-address : postmaster kblock-passwd-count : 1 viewer-overlap : 2 scroll-margin : 0 status-message-delay : 0 mail-check-interval : 150 elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/u1/cticf/dimakop/.pinerc) ======= personal-name : Dimakopoulos Panagiotis feature-list : enable-8bit-nntp-posting : enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation image-viewer : /usr/bin/X11/xv last-time-prune-ques : 96.7 last-version-used : 3.94 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= user-domain : ceid.upatras.gr nntp-server : news.cti.gr inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : Personal-folders mail/[] : ceid-announces /usr/spool/mail/[ctiprin] : unix-announces /usr/spool/mail/[unix*] news-collections : "Local Bulletins & Usenet News" *{news.cti.gr/nntp}[] default-fcc : "" default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : date addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last character-set : ISO-8859-7 composer-wrap-column : 74 reply-indent-string : > empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients use-only-domain-name : no printer : cca_4mp personal-print-comma : lpr standard-printer : lp bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu suggest-fullname : Pine Developers suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu local-fullname : Local Support local-address : postmaster kblock-passwd-count : 1 viewer-overlap : 2 scroll-margin : 0 status-message-delay : 0 mail-check-interval : 150 elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed) ======= user-domain : ceid.upatras.gr nntp-server : news.cti.gr folder-collections : Personal-folders Mail/[] : Local newsgroups /usr/spool/mail/pine-folders/[] personal-print-comma : lpr standard-printer : cca_4mp bugs-fullname : System Administrator bugs-address : root@ceid.upatras.gr ========== Feature settings ========== no-allow-talk no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-auto-zoom-after-select no-auto-unzoom-after-apply no-compose-cut-from-cursor no-compose-maps-delete-key-to-ctrl-d no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-send-offers-first-filter no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-default-in-bug-report no-disable-busy-alarm no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-keymenu no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-disable-signature-edit-cmd enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation enable-8bit-nntp-posting no-enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-background-sending no-enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-cruise-mode no-enable-cruise-mode-delete no-enable-dot-files no-enable-dot-folders no-enable-flag-cmd no-enable-flag-screen-implicitly no-enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-goto-in-file-browser no-enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-mouse-in-xterm no-enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-enable-verbose-smtp-posting no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-distribution-lists no-expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-fcc-on-bounce no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-pass-control-characters-as-is no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt no-print-includes-from-line no-print-index-enabled no-print-formfeed-between-messages no-quell-dead-letter-on-cancel no-quell-lock-failure-warnings no-quell-status-message-beeping no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-reply-always-uses-reply-to no-save-aggregates-copy-sequence no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-cursor no-show-selected-in-boldface no-signature-at-bottom no-single-column-folder-list no-tab-visits-next-new-message-only no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys no-use-sender-not-x-sender no-use-subshell-for-suspend Userid: dimakop Fullname: "Dimakopoulos Panagiotis" User domain name being used "ceid.upatras.gr" Local Domain name being used "ceid.upatras.gr" Host name being used "thalis.ceid.upatras.gr" Mail Domain name being used (by c-client too)"ceid.upatras.gr" ---- write_pinerc ---- Context Mail/[] type: LOCAL init_signals() ioctl(TIOCWINSZ) failed :Invalid argument Terminal type: vt220 Scroll mode: Scroll Regions Context Mail/[] type: LOCAL Context /usr/spool/mail/pine-folders/[] type: LOCAL Context *{news.cti.gr/nntp}[] type: REMOTE BBOARD OLDTECH ***** context Mail/[] LABEL: Personal-folders 1) inbox ***** context /usr/spool/mail/pine-folders/[] LABEL: Local newsgroups ***** context *{news.cti.gr/nntp}[] LABEL: Local Bulletins & Usenet News set_titlebar - style: 0 current message cnt:1 current_pl: 0 total_pl: 0 comatose(0) returns:prev_col: 0, prev_end:7, top_column:14 spacing:13 prev_col: 14, prev_end:17, top_column:27 spacing:26 prev_col: 27, prev_end:37, top_column:41 spacing:40 prev_col: 41, prev_end:44, top_column:55 spacing:54 prev_col: 54, prev_end:65, top_column:69 spacing:68 0 ? Help 0 1 O OTHER CMDS 0 2 (null) (null) 14 3 L [ListFldrs 13 4 P PrevCmd 27 5 N NextCmd 27 6 (null) (null) 41 7 (null) (null) 41 8 R RelNotes 54 9 K KBLock 54 10 (null) (null) 69 11 (null) (null) 69 row: -2, real_row: 22, column: 0 About to open folder "INBOX" inbox: "INBOX" busy_alarm(1, Opening "INBOX", 0, 1) q_status_message(Opening "INBOX" ) output_message(Opening "INBOX" ) STATUS cmd:120, max:1, min0 === mm_exists(7,/var/mail/dimakop) called === Opened folder 2788b8 "/var/mail/dimakop" (context: "Mail/[]") Opened folder "/var/mail/dimakop" with 7 messages cancel_busy_alarm(0) q_status_message(Opening "INBOX" DONE) comatose(7) returns:"7" q_status_message(Folder "INBOX" opened with 7 messages) Sorting by Date busy_alarm(1, Sorting "INBOX", ee338, 1) q_status_message(Sorting "INBOX" | |) STATUS: diff:-1, displayed: 837159196, now: 837159197 d_q_status_message(Opening "INBOX" ) d_q_status_message(Opening "INBOX" DONE) d_q_status_message(Folder "INBOX" opened with 7 messages) output_message(Sorting "INBOX" | |) STATUS cmd:120, max:1, min0 prev_col: 0, prev_end:2, top_column:15 spacing:13 prev_col: 15, prev_end:17, top_column:28 spacing:26 prev_col: 28, prev_end:30, top_column:42 spacing:40 prev_col: 42, prev_end:44, top_column:56 spacing:54 prev_col: 56, prev_end:58, top_column:70 spacing:68 0 (null) (null) 0 1 ^C Cancel 0 2 (null) (null) 15 3 (null) (null) 15 4 (null) (null) 28 5 (null) (null) 28 6 (null) (null) 42 7 (null) (null) 42 8 (null) (null) 56 9 (null) (null) 56 10 (null) (null) 70 11 (null) (null) 70 row: -2, real_row: 22, column: 0 IMAP 11:13:17 7/12 mm_log parse: Warning: message has unknown MIME version cancel_busy_alarm(1) q_status_message(Sorting "INBOX" | 100% |) First unseen returning 1 ==== expire_mail called ==== busy_alarm(1, Busy, 0, 0) IMAP 11:13:17 7/12 mm_log babble: Find of mailbox outside context: /u1/cticf/dimakop/.pine-interrupted-mail cancel_busy_alarm(-1) - mailcap_free - ---- MAIN_MENU_SCREEN ---- new mail called (0 2 1) check_point(VeryBadTime) Mail_Ping(mail_stream): Fri Jul 12 11:13:17 1996 New mail checked Ping complete: Fri Jul 12 11:13:17 1996 ******** new mail returning -1 ******** set_titlebar - style: 0 current message cnt:1 current_pl: 0 total_pl: 0 comatose(7) returns:"7" 0 ? Help 0 1 O OTHER CMDS 0 2 (null) (null) 14 3 L [ListFldrs 13 4 P PrevCmd 27 5 N NextCmd 27 6 (null) (null) 41 7 (null) (null) 41 8 R RelNotes 54 9 K KBLock 54 10 (null) (null) 69 11 (null) (null) 69 row: -2, real_row: 22, column: 0 STATUS: diff:0, displayed: 837159197, now: 837159197 d_q_status_message(Sorting "INBOX" | |) output_message(Sorting "INBOX" | 100% |) STATUS cmd:120, max:3, min0 cancel_busy_alarm(-1) poll event 1, timeout 150 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read char returning: 99 c Read command returning: 99 c New_mail_count zeroed - mailcap_free - ---- COMPOSE SCREEN (not in pico yet) ---- busy_alarm(1, Busy, 0, 0) IMAP 11:13:18 7/12 mm_log babble: Find of mailbox outside context: /u1/cticf/dimakop/.pine-interrupted-mail cancel_busy_alarm(-1) busy_alarm(1, Busy, 0, 0) cancel_busy_alarm(-1) === send called === set_titlebar - style: 0 current message cnt:1 current_pl: 0 total_pl: 0 comatose(7) returns:"7" flags: 0 cancel_busy_alarm(-1) ---- COMPOSER ---- STATUS: diff:-1, displayed: 837159197, now: 837159198 d_q_status_message(Sorting "INBOX" | 100% |) Clearing status line STATUS cmd:24, max:-1, min-1 new mail called (0 2 1) - build_address - (dimakop@hermes.cti.gr) - build_address_internal - (dimakop@hermes.cti.gr) - init_ab_if_needed - -- init_addrbooks(Closed, 0, 0, 1) -- - init_abook - addrbook nickname = .addressbook filename = /u1/cticf/dimakop/.addressbook want ostatus Closed ostatus was TotallyClosed, want Closed - warp_to_beginning - - save_state - - expand_address - (dimakop@hermes.cti.gr) - init_abook - addrbook nickname = .addressbook filename = /u1/cticf/dimakop/.addressbook want ostatus NoDisplay ostatus was Closed, want NoDisplay - adrbk_open(/u1/cticf/dimakop/.addressbook) - - init_entryref_cache - - valid_hfile - lu not valid - VERS_NUM is 10 not 14 /u1/cticf/dimakop/.addressbook.lu is not valid, rebuilding q_status_message(.addressbook.lu isn't valid, rebuilding.) output_message(.addressbook.lu isn't valid, rebuilding...) STATUS cmd:120, max:1, min0 busy_alarm(2, still rebuilding, 0, 0) - build_ondisk_hash_from_abook - - write_hash_header - - write_hash_table - - write_hash_table - - write_hash_trailer - cancel_busy_alarm(-1) - adrbk_set_nominal_cachesize - was 0 now 0 - init_entryref_cache - - clear_entryref_cache - - adrbk_is_in_sort_order - Address book .addressbook (/u1/cticf/dimakop/.addressbook) opened with 0 items - adrbk_lookup_by_addr(dimakop@hermes.cti.gr) (in /u1/cticf/dimakop/.addressbook) - - restore_state - - init_abook - addrbook nickname = .addressbook filename = /u1/cticf/dimakop/.addressbook want ostatus Closed ostatus was NoDisplay, want Closed - init_entryref_cache - - clear_entryref_cache - - warp_to_dlc(0) - - build_address - () ioctl(TIOCWINSZ) failed :Invalid argument suspend_busy_alarm d_q_status_message(.addressbook.lu isn't valid, rebuilding.) prev_col: 0, prev_end:3, top_column:15 spacing:13 prev_col: 14, prev_end:22, top_column:28 spacing:26 prev_col: 28, prev_end:30, top_column:42 spacing:40 prev_col: 42, prev_end:44, top_column:56 spacing:54 prev_col: 56, prev_end:58, top_column:70 spacing:68 0 (null) (null) 0 1 ^C Cancel 0 2 Y [Yes] 14 3 N No 14 4 (null) (null) 28 5 (null) (null) 28 6 (null) (null) 42 7 (null) (null) 42 8 (null) (null) 56 9 (null) (null) 56 10 (null) (null) 70 11 (null) (null) 70 row: -2, real_row: 22, column: 0 poll event 1, timeout 600 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read char returning: 121 y Want_to read: y (121) resume_busy_alarm ... composer returns (0x5) ioctl(TIOCWINSZ) failed :Invalid argument init_signals() busy_alarm(1, Busy, 0, 0) busy_alarm(1, Busy, 0, 0) busy_alarm(1, Busy, 0, 0) -- pine_encode_body: 0 cancel_busy_alarm(-1) === sending: Sending mail... busy_alarm(1, Sending mail, 160eb8, 1) q_status_message(Sending mail | |) output_message(Sending mail | |) STATUS cmd:120, max:1, min0 call_mailer: via pipe Opening pipe: "/usr/lib/sendmail -bs -odb -oem" (WRNP) PID: 12146, COMMAND: /usr/lib/sendmail -bs -odb -oem IMAP DEBUG 11:13:50 7/12: 220 thalis.ceid.upatras.gr ESMTP Sendmail 8.7.4/8.7.3; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 11:13:50 +0300 (EET DST) IMAP DEBUG 11:13:50 7/12: EHLO localhost IMAP DEBUG 11:13:50 7/12: 250-thalis.ceid.upatras.gr Hello dimakop@localhost, pleased to meet you IMAP DEBUG 11:13:50 7/12: 250-EXPN IMAP DEBUG 11:13:50 7/12: 250-8BITMIME IMAP DEBUG 11:13:50 7/12: 250-SIZE IMAP DEBUG 11:13:50 7/12: 250-DSN IMAP DEBUG 11:13:50 7/12: 250-VERB IMAP DEBUG 11:13:50 7/12: 250-ONEX IMAP DEBUG 11:13:50 7/12: 250 HELP Opened SMTP server "/usr/lib/sendmail -bs -odb -oem" IMAP DEBUG 11:13:50 7/12: RSET IMAP DEBUG 11:13:50 7/12: 250 Reset state IMAP DEBUG 11:13:50 7/12: MAIL FROM: BODY=8BITMIME IMAP DEBUG 11:13:51 7/12: 250 ... Sender ok IMAP DEBUG 11:13:51 7/12: RCPT TO: IMAP DEBUG 11:13:51 7/12: 250 Recipient ok IMAP DEBUG 11:13:51 7/12: DATA IMAP DEBUG 11:13:51 7/12: 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself -- pine_rfc822_output busy_alarm(1, Busy, 0, 0) -- pine_encode_body: 0 -- pine_rfc822_output_body: 0 -- pine_rfc822_output_body: segment 18 bytes -- gf_reset local_nvtnl -- gf_pipe: done. IMAP DEBUG 11:13:51 7/12: . alarm_signal() IMAP DEBUG 11:13:51 7/12: 250 LAA12147 Message accepted for delivery IMAP DEBUG 11:13:51 7/12: QUIT IMAP DEBUG 11:13:51 7/12: 221 thalis.ceid.upatras.gr closing connection new mail called (0 2 0) check_point(VeryBadTime) ******** new mail returning -1 ******** SIGCHLD raised cancel_busy_alarm(0) q_status_message(Sending mail | 100% |) q_status_message(Message sent.) === send returning === - mailcap_free - ---- MAIN_MENU_SCREEN ---- new mail called (0 2 1) set_titlebar - style: 0 current message cnt:1 current_pl: 0 total_pl: 0 comatose(7) returns:"7" 0 ? Help 0 1 O OTHER CMDS 0 2 (null) (null) 14 3 L [ListFldrs 13 4 P PrevCmd 27 5 N NextCmd 27 6 (null) (null) 41 7 (null) (null) 41 8 R RelNotes 54 9 K KBLock 54 10 (null) (null) 69 11 (null) (null) 69 row: -2, real_row: 22, column: 0 STATUS: diff:-1, displayed: 837159230, now: 837159231 d_q_status_message(Sending mail | |) d_q_status_message(Sending mail | 100% |) output_message(Message sent.) STATUS cmd:120, max:3, min0 cancel_busy_alarm(-1) poll event 1, timeout 150 poll on tty returned 0, events 0 Read char returning: 512 Read command returning: 512 new mail called (0 0 1) check_point(GoodTime) Mail_Ping(mail_stream): Fri Jul 12 11:16:21 1996 New mail checked Ping complete: Fri Jul 12 11:16:21 1996 ******** new mail returning -1 ******** STATUS: diff:-147, displayed: 837159231, now: 837159381 cancel_busy_alarm(-1) poll event 1, timeout 150 poll on tty returned 0, events 0 Read char returning: 512 Read command returning: 512 new mail called (0 0 1) check_point(GoodTime) Mail_Ping(mail_stream): Fri Jul 12 11:18:51 1996 New mail checked Ping complete: Fri Jul 12 11:18:51 1996 ******** new mail returning -1 ******** STATUS: diff:-297, displayed: 837159231, now: 837159531 cancel_busy_alarm(-1) poll event 1, timeout 150 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read char returning: 113 q Read command returning: 113 q New_mail_count zeroed ---- QUIT SCREEN ---- suspend_busy_alarm d_q_status_message(Message sent.) prev_col: 0, prev_end:8, top_column:14 spacing:13 prev_col: 14, prev_end:16, top_column:27 spacing:26 prev_col: 27, prev_end:29, top_column:41 spacing:40 prev_col: 41, prev_end:43, top_column:55 spacing:54 prev_col: 55, prev_end:57, top_column:69 spacing:68 0 Y [Yes] 0 1 N No 0 2 (null) (null) 14 3 (null) (null) 14 4 (null) (null) 27 5 (null) (null) 27 6 (null) (null) 41 7 (null) (null) 41 8 (null) (null) 55 9 (null) (null) 55 10 (null) (null) 69 11 (null) (null) 69 row: -2, real_row: 22, column: 0 poll event 1, timeout 600 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read char returning: 121 y Want_to read: y (121) resume_busy_alarm expunge and close mail stream "/var/mail/dimakop" q_status_message(Closing "INBOX"...) output_message(Closing "INBOX"...) comatose(7) returns:"7" end_screen called about to end_tty_driver end_signals(0) - completely_done_with_adrbks - - init_abook - addrbook nickname = .addressbook filename = /u1/cticf/dimakop/.addressbook want ostatus TotallyClosed ostatus was Closed, want TotallyClosed - clear_entryref_cache - - done_with_dlc_cache - - mailcap_free - From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 02:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17062; Fri, 12 Jul 96 02:54:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13683; Fri, 12 Jul 96 02:50:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13677; Fri, 12 Jul 96 02:50:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueeqk-00038BC; Fri, 12 Jul 96 02:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Again: expunge Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:47:25 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4s53g5$8p3@ousrvr3.oulu.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4s53g5$8p3@ousrvr3.oulu.fi> On 12 Jul 1996, Thomas Ulich wrote: :> :>Referring mostly to this "Bovine Remailer" type of guy, who seems to have :>lost his own education, namely good manners, somewhere on the road between :>his childhood and the moment of his news posting. I prefer people who do :>not know certain facts over people who can't behave. Strong support for this view! :> :>Back to the subject: EXPUNGE :> :>To all of this discussion I might add my personal guess, that the vast :>majority of pine users around the planet are non-native speakers of English, I echo this. I give regular coures in Pine, and a large percentage of my students are not English native speakers (I have Chinese, Japanese, Africans, all flavours of European, and so on). I do not even teach them about expunge because I rate the word as extremely likely to be outside their vocabularies, and I am having quite enough trouble teaching the basics. :>and at least I heard the word "expunge" for the first time in my life, when :>pine asked whether to expunge a message or not. And I really needed the help :>of a dictionary to figure out what this all is about. :> :>Thus, I consider the use of this term confusing, at least it is not immediately :>clear to everyone what it means. This is against the idea of pine, to :>provide an easy to use mail program. Yes, probably there are many more :>things in pine which are against this idea, and yes, maybe it is true, that :>one has to be a UNIX Guru to work things out... But I do find Pine easy to teach, even to students who have no prior experience of ANYTHING (this is in fact the primary reason we chose Pine - though the fact that it is free also helped :-) ) :>And the moral? Never flame somebody today for what you might do yourself :>tomorrow, i.e., asking for something you do not know! I would very much appreciate an easier linguistic alternative for expunge. WipeOut comes to mind (but of course conflicts with WhereIs; there are no spare letters in Pine!). Another mailer I used to use had Tidy for this verb. eXterminate is probably well understood, but possibly a bit long for the "hints lines". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 1223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09245; Fri, 12 Jul 96 03:08:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00751; Fri, 12 Jul 96 03:05:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00745; Fri, 12 Jul 96 03:05:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uef6J-00038BC; Fri, 12 Jul 96 03:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Fred B. Ringel" Subject: Re: nice pgp and pine interface? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <4rbst0$p9n@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> <4robn1$ov@klemm.gtn.com> <4rv3qv$b5q@ccshst05.uoguelph.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4rv3qv$b5q@ccshst05.uoguelph.ca> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 02:01:41 GMT On 10 Jul 1996, Steve Howie wrote: >>Andreas Klemm (andreas@klemm.gtn.com) wrote: >>: In article <4rbst0$p9n@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu>, >>: sbaillar@attila.stevens-tech.edu (Songkun Baillargeon) writes: >>: > s there a nice PGP and Pine interface or do I have to keep saving and >>: > blah blah blah??? >>: >>: PinePGP, ask kujawa@montana.com >>: >> >>Also try 'mkpgp' ... forget the authors address though >> There is also a link on the home page I maintain for the PGP-users mailing list that links to a page showing step-by-step how to integrate PGP with Pine. Its really neat. Take a look at: http://www.rivertown.net/~pgp Fred ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Fred B. Ringel Rivertown.Net Systems Administrator P.O. Box 532 and General Fixer-upper Hastings, New York 10706 Voice/Support: 914.478.2885 Data: 914-478-4988 PGP-Users's Mailing list maintainer--http://www.rivertown.net/~pgp AND Westchester's Rivertown's Full Service Flat-Rate Internet Access Provider From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 05:31:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10098; Fri, 12 Jul 96 05:31:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02516; Fri, 12 Jul 96 05:25:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gatekeeper.barclaycard.co.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02510; Fri, 12 Jul 96 05:25:28 -0700 Received: by gatekeeper.barclaycard.co.uk; id AA09158; Fri, 12 Jul 96 13:22:41 GMT Received: from news.barclaycard.co.uk(130.13.1.74) by gatekeeper.barclaycard.co.uk via smap (V1.3) id sma009129; Fri Jul 12 13:22:33 1996 Received: from msmail-gateway.barclaycard.co.uk by bcardn.barclaycard.co.uk (4.1/Unipalm Consulting Version 1.1bcd) id AA08861; Fri, 12 Jul 96 13:25:02 GMT Received: by msmail-gateway.barclaycard.co.uk with Microsoft Mail id <31E6B54D@msmail-gateway.barclaycard.co.uk>; Fri, 12 Jul 96 13:27:57 PDT From: "Jackson Alexander (EMU)" To: "'pine-info@cac.washington.edu'" Subject: VAX/VMS mail programs Date: Fri, 12 Jul 96 12:09:00 PDT Message-Id: <31E6B54D@msmail-gateway.barclaycard.co.uk> Encoding: 3 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 05:50:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10214; Fri, 12 Jul 96 05:50:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02743; Fri, 12 Jul 96 05:44:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from like.duh.ml.org by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02737; Fri, 12 Jul 96 05:44:36 -0700 Received: from localhost (tv@localhost) by like.duh.ml.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA14594 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 08:43:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: like.duh.ml.org: tv owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 08:43:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Out of his mind X-Sender: tv@like.duh.ml.org To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine 3.94 bounce crash--interim patch Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Attached to this message is a patch to pine3.94/pine/send.c created by the Pine development team. I've received numerous messages about the crash caused by bouncing messages and am posting the patch myself until Pine 3.95 is released. To apply the patch, extract the attached file to 'send.patch', cd to the pine3.94/pine/ subdirectory of the distribution, and type: patch <../whatever/directory/send.patch Make sure you use GNU patch or a fairly new BSD or SVR4 based patch program. (Most recent OS releases will accept the patch.) ===== == Todd Vierling (Personal tv@pobox.com; Business tv@iag.net) Amiga lives! == == System administrator/technician, Internet Access Group, Orlando Florida == == Dialups in Orange, Volusia, Lake, Osceola counties - http://www.iag.net == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 05:55:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10244; Fri, 12 Jul 96 05:55:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02769; Fri, 12 Jul 96 05:45:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from like.duh.ml.org by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02763; Fri, 12 Jul 96 05:45:50 -0700 Received: from localhost (tv@localhost) by like.duh.ml.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA14603 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 08:44:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: like.duh.ml.org: tv owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 08:44:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Out of his mind X-Sender: tv@like.duh.ml.org To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: [resend] Pine 3.94 bounce crash--interim patch Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-2114541559-837175485=:14533" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-2114541559-837175485=:14533 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII [The original message had the attachment left out. This post is correct.] Attached to this message is a patch to pine3.94/pine/send.c created by the Pine development team. I've received numerous messages about the crash caused by bouncing messages and am posting the patch myself until Pine 3.95 is released. To apply the patch, extract the attached file to 'send.patch', cd to the pine3.94/pine/ subdirectory of the distribution, and type: patch <../whatever/directory/send.patch Make sure you use GNU patch or a fairly new BSD or SVR4 based patch program. 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groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10258; Fri, 12 Jul 96 05:58:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15811; Fri, 12 Jul 96 05:51:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15805; Fri, 12 Jul 96 05:50:23 -0700 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA12027 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:49:40 +0200 Received: from itsrm1 (itsrm1 [149.202.148.210]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA25006 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 16:39:58 +0400 (MDT) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 16:49:12 +0400 (MOW) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsrm1 Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Pine mailing list Subject: Re: 8-bit newsposting doesn't work! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 12 Jul 1996 dimakop@cti.gr wrote: [ ... snipped ... ] > I followed your suggestion and I send a mail message with > enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation and without any sendmail fixed path in > any of the configuration files. Now I got 8 bits passed through but > for the body only - the subject arrived encoded in MIME. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > I am including the message as it is kept in the mail box in the > arriving host and the debug output of pine -d 9. > For all that I know, 8 bit in headers is not allowed at all. It has nothing to do with ESMTP, which governs only body of message. So, Pine is quite correct on that matter. Or am I wrong? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 06:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10456; Fri, 12 Jul 96 06:26:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16203; Fri, 12 Jul 96 06:21:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16195; Fri, 12 Jul 96 06:21:39 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 12 Jul 96 21:25:12 +0800 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 21:18:55 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Barry Landy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Again: expunge In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Barry Landy wrote: > I echo this. I give regular coures in Pine, and a large percentage of my > students are not English native speakers (I have Chinese, Japanese, > Africans, all flavours of European, and so on). Well, I too have a diverse group to work with. Some with UNIX knowledge, some without. Some with a good command of spoken English, most without. Can't say that I've had too much difficulty explaining to them what expunge did. Most of them had more trouble pronouncing it than anything. The groups that I've worked with generally see the opportunity to learn a new word and once they learn the word....they don't seem to forget. Sometimes the sentences they produce to "show off" their newly gained knowledge can bring a chuckle to your lips. I suppose I could be just lucky to have worked with a select group of people who were not adverse to learning. Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 06:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10364; Fri, 12 Jul 96 06:33:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03276; Fri, 12 Jul 96 06:26:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from access5.digex.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03270; Fri, 12 Jul 96 06:26:03 -0700 Received: from localhost (pobart@localhost) by access5.digex.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA22147 ; for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 09:25:52 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 09:25:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul O Bartlett X-Sender: pobart@access5.digex.net To: Juha Suhonen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: hmm.. PLEASE HELP!! offline mail-writing.. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: Express Access Private Account Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Juha Suhonen wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > > > I am a bit puzzled. If you are postponing messages for no other > > reason than to try to be able to send them all at once, [...] > > Doesn't the _subject_ say it? OFFLINE mail writing? :) > > (Ie SLIP link, not always up, user wants to read mails off-line..) However, you were asking about Pine in a Pine newsgroup. To the best of my knowledge, Pine does *NO* offline activity at all. It is strictly interactive. When Pine is not running interactively, then Pine is not running at all and can do nothing. You cannot even run it in a "batch" mode from the command line. For good or for ill, that's the way Pine was designed and built. You seem to be wanting to do something Pine was never designed for and therefore cannot do. Sorry. Perhaps you could find some useful information on one of the other mail newsgroups. I doubt that you can do what you want to do with Pine. (Better informed opinion welcome.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 06:35:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10542; Fri, 12 Jul 96 06:35:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16327; Fri, 12 Jul 96 06:31:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16321; Fri, 12 Jul 96 06:31:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ueiH6-00038BC; Fri, 12 Jul 96 06:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dast@sth.frontec.se (Daniel Stenberg) Subject: Re: Kill Files Date: 10 Jul 1996 11:15:04 GMT Message-Id: <4s03bo$soc@lobo.lule.frontec.se> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii (Myron Wayne Jones) writes: > I have seen this in the postings for some time. Can someone explain what > "Kill Files" means. References ?? It is a system to automatically delete, hide or mark mails/articles posted by a certain person, discussing certain subjects or containing certain matters. Powerful kill file systems usually feature extensive regexp patters to enable all sorts of different filtering/masking. -- Daniel.Stenberg@sth.frontec.se IRC: Bagder HTTP://sunsite.auc.dk/frexxed FrexxWare - Products for cool users. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 08:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11466; Fri, 12 Jul 96 08:13:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04916; Fri, 12 Jul 96 08:06:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.06/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04910; Fri, 12 Jul 96 08:06:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uejmH-00038BC; Fri, 12 Jul 96 08:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Schleichert Subject: Re: Time Zone Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 16:57:28 +0200 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Jim Billingham wrote: > Hello everyone. > > Is there any way to set the time zone using PC Pine? > > Thanks alot > Jim There is. Set the environment variable TZ to the value