From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 1 00:34:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18550; Fri, 1 Mar 96 00:34:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21809; Fri, 1 Mar 96 00:28:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21803; Fri, 1 Mar 96 00:28:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tsQBq-00038FC; Fri, 1 Mar 96 00:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: whamblen@acsu.buffalo.edu (William D. Hamblen) Subject: Problem moving address book from UNIX to VAX Date: 29 Feb 1996 22:45:06 GMT Message-Id: <4h5a9i$rvo@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu> Maybe somebody can help me with this. I have two accounts, one on a UNIX system and the other on a VAX. I use PINE 3.91 on both. I copied my UNIX address book to the VAX and then tried to open it. It gave me a series of repetetive messages (need to resync, file changed, need to resync, ... and finally writing address book). Then when I finally got to look, everything had been deleted except for a stray character or two. As far as I could tell the address book file conformed to the specification (nicknamelongname etc.) and it worked fine on the UNIX machine. After opening it in VAX Pine, the file is empty except for those stray characters (I checked it outside of PINE). I've tried it several times. Any ideas? Shouldn't this work? I've had no problems copying this address file to other UNIX accounts. Anyway, I'd appreciate any suggestions about this. Thanks. - Bill Hamblen whamblen@acsu.buffalo.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 1 02:33:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21837; Fri, 1 Mar 96 02:33:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01289; Fri, 1 Mar 96 02:29:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01282; Fri, 1 Mar 96 02:29:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tsS0M-00038FC; Fri, 1 Mar 96 02:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: f0781923@unicorn.it.wsu.edu (Xiaohua Wang) Subject: Q: Mail Receipt? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 22:17:56 GMT Hi, netters: How can I get a receipt after I send a mail to someone in PINE? -- +------------------------------------------+ | Wang, Xiaohua (pronounced as 'shou-hwa') | | | | Department of Chemical Engineering | | Washington State University | | | | http://www.che.wsu.edu/~xwang | +------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 1 03:11:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22632; Fri, 1 Mar 96 03:11:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01689; Fri, 1 Mar 96 03:03:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01677; Fri, 1 Mar 96 03:03:03 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 1 Mar 1996 09:07:22 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA05218; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 09:07:26 GMT Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 09:07:26 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Roderick Amio - CSCI/F95 Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: forwarding mail In-Reply-To: <4h4ldo$at4@ns2.ryerson.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine can't do this... it is for reading messages AFTER they have been delivered into your mailbox. Instead you need to persuade the mail delivery system to deliver the arriving messages elsewhere. On UNIX systems the delivery software is commonly "sendmail", and you control this feature by setting up a ".forward" file in your home directory. Try reading you on-line manual page for sendmail for help ("man sendmail") or ask your local help desk for assistance. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 29 Feb 1996, Roderick Amio - CSCI/F95 wrote: > I have 2 email addresses. > Is there a way for pine to automatically send email from 1 account to the > other? > Any help would be appreciated. > > -- > || *) | || > || / | || > /||___ 0/ | /| > / ||WWW |\ | / ||\ > / W ___| \_ | / W\__ > | / \ | | ' WW \ > | / \__ | | * W \0____ > | ~ ` | | ` \ \_ > |Roderick C. Amio || | , . ___\ > |e-mail:ramio@acs.ryerson.ca || | / / > | ramio@scs.ryerson.ca || | ~ / > |homepg:www.scs.ryerson.ca/~ramio|| | ~ > ___________|______________________|___________|______________________ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 1 03:41:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23238; Fri, 1 Mar 96 03:41:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24210; Fri, 1 Mar 96 03:34:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24204; Fri, 1 Mar 96 03:34:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tsT2G-00038FC; Fri, 1 Mar 96 03:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nevin Kapur Subject: Re: Recalling expunged postings.. In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 17:14:42 GMT On 29 Feb 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Once messages which have been marked for deletion have been Expnged (X) > or implicitly expunged (by exiting Pine and allowing it to expunge your > folder) they have been permanently removed from the file containing the > mail folder. > Thanks for this piece of information, but my question was slightly different. I wasn't referring to mails which have been *expunged*, but postings which have been *excluded* (maybe I misled you with my subject). In other news readers, such as tin you can toggle all the postings by pressing 'r'. Nevin. ____________________________________________________________________________ Nevin Kapur * Electrical Engineering * Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay INTERNET http://ee.iitb.ernet.in/~nevin, nevin@ee.iitb.ernet.in MAIL C20 Garib Soc.,5th NS Rd.,JVPD Scheme,Bombay,400049.India PHONE 628 1091, 624 0272 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 1 07:14:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28483; Fri, 1 Mar 96 07:14:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04953; Fri, 1 Mar 96 07:05:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jumbo.ntplx.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04947; Fri, 1 Mar 96 07:05:20 -0800 Received: by ntplx.net (4.1/NETPLEX-2.3.0) id AA00617; Fri, 1 Mar 96 10:05:30 EST Received: by quoin1.quoininc.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tsUaB-000FEhC; Fri, 1 Mar 96 08:09 EST Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 08:09:15 -0500 (EST) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: Roderick Amio - CSCI/F95 Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: forwarding mail In-Reply-To: <4h4ldo$at4@ns2.ryerson.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Is there a way for pine to automatically send email from 1 account to the > other? Pine can't do this. If your using pine on a UNIX machine, construct a file whose name is ".forward" with the following line: address_you_want_forwarded: address_you_want_all_mail_to_go_to __ ____ __ __ ____/\_\ ____ Quoin Inc / __ \/\ \/\ \ / __ \/\ \ / _ \ 124 Mount Auburn Street /\ \_\ \ \ \_\ \/\ \_\ \ \ \/\ \/\ \ Cambridge, MA 02138-5700 \ \___ \ \____/\ \____/\ \_\ \_\ \_\ USA \/___/\ \/___/ \/___/ \/_/\/_/\/_/ \ \_\ voice: +1.617.576.5885 \/_/ OBJECT CONSULTANTS fax: +1.617.576.5876 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 1 07:50:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29282; Fri, 1 Mar 96 07:50:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27309; Fri, 1 Mar 96 07:17:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27240; Fri, 1 Mar 96 07:12:37 -0800 Received: from cus.cam.ac.uk [131.111.10.53] by bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.0 #36) id m0tsWVP-000BzwC; Fri, 1 Mar 96 15:12 GMT Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 15:11:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Barry Landy Reply-To: Barry Landy To: Steve Hubert , Pine Info List Subject: WinPine GPFing (fwd) X-Sender: bl10@imap.cus.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII One of my users has passed the following problem with the (ab)use of Windows Pine onto me. (Yes, we are having problems curently with overload on IMAP servers). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 1223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 15:04:05 +0000 (GMT) To: bl10@cam.ac.uk Subject: WinPine GPFing Prescription for generating a GPF from WinPine 3.91 - Logon to a very overloaded server - get waiting for server messages after entering password - reply Y to disconnect from server after the 70-second waiting period - List folders - get waiting for server messages again (it didn't record the previous disconnection?) - reply Y to disconnect from server after the 70-sec waiting period this consistently gives a GPF in PINE.EXE at 000D:C628 Debug output of the Pine program (at debug level 2). Version 3.91 Fri Mar 01 14:17:02 1996 reading_pinerc "C:\pine\pinerc" Read 6488 characters: ======= Current_val options set ======= user-domain : hermes.cam.ac.uk smtp-server : smtp.hermes.cam.ac.uk nntp-server : nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk inbox-path : {imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk}INBOX folder-collections : staff-server f:\pine\mail\[] : pc c:\pine\mail\[] : hermes {imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk}mail/[] default-fcc : savemail postponed-folder : postpond mail-directory : mail read-message-folder : savemail signature-file : pine.sig address-book : addrbook feature-list : expanded-view-of-folders : quit-without-confirm : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : include-header-in-reply : include-text-in-reply : enable-aggregate-command-set default-composer-hdr : To : Cc : Subject saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last editor : notepad use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 96.3 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no newsrc-path : C:\pine\NEWSRC folder-extension : MTX normal-foreground-co : black normal-background-co : cyan reverse-foreground-c : black reverse-background-c : white font-name : Courier New font-size : 11 font-style : "" window-position : 85x27+41+157 ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (C:\pine\pinerc) ======= personal-name : Chris Cheney user-id : cjc1 user-domain : hermes.cam.ac.uk smtp-server : smtp.hermes.cam.ac.uk nntp-server : nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk inbox-path : {imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk}INBOX folder-collections : staff-server f:\pine\mail\[] : pc c:\pine\mail\[] : hermes {imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk}mail/[] default-fcc : savemail read-message-folder : savemail feature-list : expanded-view-of-folders : quit-without-confirm : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : include-header-in-reply : include-text-in-reply : enable-aggregate-command-set default-composer-hdr : To : Cc : Subject editor : notepad last-time-prune-ques : 96.3 last-version-used : 3.91 normal-foreground-co : black normal-background-co : cyan reverse-foreground-c : black reverse-background-c : white font-name : Courier New font-size : 11 font-style : "" window-position : 85x27+41+157 ======= Global_val options set (pinerc) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sentmail postponed-folder : postpond mail-directory : mail signature-file : pine.sig address-book : addrbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no newsrc-path : C:\pine\NEWSRC folder-extension : MTX ======= Fixed_val options set (NO FIXED) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd enable-aggregate-command-set enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply include-header-in-reply include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface no-signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys Userid: cjc1 Fullname: "Chris Cheney" User domain name being used "hermes.cam.ac.uk" Local Domain name being used "csi.cam.ac.uk" Host name being used "cjc-pc.csi.cam.ac.uk" Mail Domain name being used (by c-client too)"hermes.cam.ac.uk" Context f:\pine\mail\[] type: LOCAL Context f:\pine\mail\[] type: LOCAL Context c:\pine\mail\[] type: LOCAL Context {imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk}mail/[] type: REMOTE Context *{nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk/nntp}[] type: REMOTE BBOARD OLDTECH About to open folder "INBOX" inbox: "INBOX" IMAP mm_notify NIL : {imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk}INBOX : blue.csi.cam.ac.uk IMAP2bis Service 7.4(70) at Fri, 1 Mar 1996 14:17:50 +0000 (GMT) IMAP 14:17 3/1 mm_log warn: U From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 1 08:26:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00501; Fri, 1 Mar 96 08:26:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28154; Fri, 1 Mar 96 08:08:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28148; Fri, 1 Mar 96 08:08:03 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 1 Mar 1996 13:30:05 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id NAA20174; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 13:13:39 GMT Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 13:13:38 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Nevin Kapur Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Recalling expunged postings.. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ah! In that case just use the Unexclude command (&) ... it should be listed in the Command Menu at the bottom of the screen (although you may have to use the Other Commands (O) command in order to see it) Sudden thought: I'm sure you know already, but you don't have to get it shown on the menu before you can use it. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Nevin Kapur wrote: > On 29 Feb 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > Once messages which have been marked for deletion have been Expnged (X) > > or implicitly expunged (by exiting Pine and allowing it to expunge your > > folder) they have been permanently removed from the file containing the > > mail folder. > > > > Thanks for this piece of information, but my question was slightly > different. I wasn't referring to mails which have been *expunged*, but > postings which have been *excluded* (maybe I misled you with my subject). > In other news readers, such as tin you can toggle all the postings by > pressing 'r'. > > Nevin. > ____________________________________________________________________________ > Nevin Kapur * Electrical Engineering * Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay > INTERNET http://ee.iitb.ernet.in/~nevin, nevin@ee.iitb.ernet.in > MAIL C20 Garib Soc.,5th NS Rd.,JVPD Scheme,Bombay,400049.India > PHONE 628 1091, 624 0272 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 1 10:02:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04926; Fri, 1 Mar 96 10:02:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06582; Fri, 1 Mar 96 08:29:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06576; Fri, 1 Mar 96 08:29:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tsXf4-00038FC; Fri, 1 Mar 96 08:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pww@bnr.ca (Peter Whittaker) Subject: Re: Quoted text Question Date: 1 Mar 1996 14:17:06 GMT Message-Id: <4h70t2$elm@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> References: In article , Jack Hunter wrote: >Is there anyway to change the prefixed > in front of quoted text to : >I have used this for quite awhile in YARN and would like to use it in Pine. >Thank you for any help. This isn't exactly what you had in mind, but if you use vi as your editor, define a macro to do it for you: map ^Xc :%s/^>/:/^M Variations are possible, such as changing all > characters that occur prior to any character that is not a > and not whitespace, etc. (To enter ^X, type ^V^X; do likewise for ^M.) If you do not like ctrl-x c, then you can change this to pretty much any thing you like, well, any sequence of characters not otherwise usd by vi (that is why I begin many of macros with ctrl-x: vi does not use ctrl-x). -- Peter Whittaker [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] X.500 Specialist pww@entrust.com [ http://www.entrust.com ] Nortel Secure Networks Ph: +1 613 765 2064 [ ] P.O. Box 3511, Station C FAX:+1 613 765 3520 [__________________________] Ottawa, Canada, K1Y 4H7 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 1 11:54:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09318; Fri, 1 Mar 96 11:54:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03660; Fri, 1 Mar 96 11:41:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03654; Fri, 1 Mar 96 11:41:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tsaeU-00038FC; Fri, 1 Mar 96 11:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lheilig@okstate.edu Subject: mouse?? help Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 21:39:47 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A family member who uses PINE w/ an Inter net connection scans at least 50 messages each day (replies to many of the posts). This person has a physical disability and repetitive kb activity is stressful. Is there mouse support for PINE? If not, is mouse support for PINE-PC available? Any help and/or suggestions will be appreciated. Pls. send response to e-mail. I do not have easy accessibility to the net and I do not want to miss any answers. TIA l heiliger From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 1 13:43:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14410; Fri, 1 Mar 96 13:43:20 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14493; Fri, 1 Mar 96 13:30:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14481; Fri, 1 Mar 96 13:30:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tscKI-00038FC; Fri, 1 Mar 96 13:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rasheed Baqai Subject: Re: Newsgroup Order Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 11:38:49 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Seth Rogovoy wrote: > I would like to change the order in which the newsgroups appear when I > first open my newsgroup folder. > > How do I do this? Press $ and then choose an order from the listed choices. This is done within each news group. You can also go into setup and change sort-order S from main meny and then it is on one of the selection pages. Rasheed --- R a B s a rbaqai@uci.edu h q http://www.ics.uci.edu/~rbaqai/ e a University of California, Irvine-Information & Computer Science e i d From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 1 15:06:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18171; Fri, 1 Mar 96 15:06:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08870; Fri, 1 Mar 96 15:00:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08864; Fri, 1 Mar 96 15:00:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tsdm8-00038FC; Fri, 1 Mar 96 14:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: What is the xxx code to build Pine 3.91 on HP 8.05? In-Reply-To: Luz Abril Torres Mendez's message of 23 Feb 1996 16: 14:54 GMT Message-Id: References: <4gkp5u$pef@hp.fciencias.unam.mx> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 17:58:38 GMT In article <4gkp5u$pef@hp.fciencias.unam.mx> Luz Abril Torres Mendez writes: From: Luz Abril Torres Mendez Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site NNTP-Posting-Host: indy-les.iimtemix.unam.mx X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.12IS (X11; I; IRIX 5.3 IP22) Please note your NNTP server is advertising itself as not properly configured. Also your return address is not valid. The latter can probably be fixed by setting an appropriate Netscape option. I would like to install Pine on HP with HPUX8.05 operating system, but I don't know what is the xxx code to build it. How you remember the xxx is the plataform where Pine is going to install. Some of this information appears in the build script itself: Usage: build may be one of the following: ult Works on DECStations with Ultrix 4.1 or 4.2 nxt Works on NeXT 68030's and 68040's running Next Mach 2.0 sun Works on SPARCs running SunOS 4.1 ptx Works on Sequent Symmetry running Dynix/PTX a32 Works on IBM RS/6000 running AIX 3.2 ... Others are available, see doc/pine-ports clean Clean up object files and such. Also, a good way to rebuild Pine/Pico from scratch. Another clue is to look for makefile.xxx files in the pine and pico subdirectories of the top-level distribution directory. In your case, reading makefile.hpp shows it is the # Make file for the Pine mail system for HPUX 8.0 Regards, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4824 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 1 15:32:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19159; Fri, 1 Mar 96 15:32:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17606; Fri, 1 Mar 96 15:26:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17600; Fri, 1 Mar 96 15:26:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tseAO-00038FC; Fri, 1 Mar 96 15:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Vartan Ghazarian Subject: Help..with headers.. Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 15:50:42 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have few questions..I just want to know what are those used for.. initial-keystroke-list = default-composer-hdrs = customized-hdrs = and also fcc...if anyone can help me i would gladly apreciate it..and if you can email me diract it would be much better..plus I want to know if i can filter mails...lets say i'm on a mailing list and I want all those email that come from a mailing list to put in a seperate floder. Thanks in advance.. P.S. How can i send an email with asking me "do you want to send the email?" ****************************************************************************** **VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaR ** ****************************************************************************** ** My Home Page! ** ** http://www-home.calumet.yorku.ca/vghazari/www/home.htm ** ** ** ** Vartan Ghazarian Emails: Yu117540@Yorku.Ca ** ** Toronto, Canada vghazari@calumet.yorku.ca ** ** __ __ ___ _____ ________ ___ __ __ ** ** | | | | / _ \ | _ \ |__ __| / _ \ | \ | | ** ** | | | | | |_| | | |_) ) | | | |_| | | | | ** ** \ \_/ / | _ | | _ < | | | _ | | |\ | ** ** \___/ |__| |__| |__| \__\ |__| |__| |__| |__| \__| ** ** ** ****************************************************************************** **VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaR** ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 1 19:21:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26292; Fri, 1 Mar 96 19:21:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14166; Fri, 1 Mar 96 19:16:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bluto.uwex.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14160; Fri, 1 Mar 96 19:16:49 -0800 Received: by bluto.uwex.edu; id VAA42275; 8.6.9/2.1; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 21:12:24 -0600 Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 21:12:24 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Travers X-Sender: travers@bluto.uwex.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help attach and foreign characters (extended ASCII) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, Thanks for a great mail system! But exploring the multiple possibilities offered by Pine I have hit 2 walls, and I need your help to get through. The first one concerns file attachments: I have attached a Word Perfect file to a message I sent to a university email system and had no problems, but I also tried sending one to an institution which gets its email via mcimail.com and they just received garbage. I suppose it means that mcimail.com doesn't care about being MIME compliant, or maybe it means something else (I also emailed them an inquiry): can you help me determine the best options bearing in mind that I don't have a clue. The second concerns extended ASCII characters such as an e with an accent on top: I can upload an English text into a Pine message, but if I try to upload an ascii text file written in French, all the extended characters get stripped or misinterpreted. Can you help me find a solution for this (does some kind of filter/transposer exist ?) I am sure you have received these types of questions many times and I apologize for the redundancy. I did try to find the answer to these problems in the online help, but somehow they eluded me. My web administrator hasn't found an answer either. Many thanks, Chris Travers From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 1 22:02:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29387; Fri, 1 Mar 96 22:02:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24719; Fri, 1 Mar 96 21:56:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24713; Fri, 1 Mar 96 21:56:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tskHg-00038FC; Fri, 1 Mar 96 21:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: James Shattuck Subject: Re: forwarding mail Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 16:32:02 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4h4ldo$at4@ns2.ryerson.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4h4ldo$at4@ns2.ryerson.ca> Yes, its easy. You just open pico with "pico .foward", no quotes, in the directory of the one you wnat to foward. Type in the e-mail address that you want it fowarded to, close it, and that's it. James On 29 Feb 1996, Roderick Amio - CSCI/F95 wrote: > I have 2 email addresses. > Is there a way for pine to automatically send email from 1 account to the > other? > Any help would be appreciated. > > -- > || *) | || > || / | || > /||___ 0/ | /| > / ||WWW |\ | / ||\ > / W ___| \_ | / W\__ > | / \ | | ' WW \ > | / \__ | | * W \0____ > | ~ ` | | ` \ \_ > |Roderick C. Amio || | , . ___\ > |e-mail:ramio@acs.ryerson.ca || | / / > | ramio@scs.ryerson.ca || | ~ / > |homepg:www.scs.ryerson.ca/~ramio|| | ~ > ___________|______________________|___________|______________________ > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ James Alan Shattuck Computer Science Major Disabled Student Services - High Tech Center CSU, Chico 898-5959 DSS Home Page: http://www.csuchico.edu/dss/ Born: 9/3/63 Adopted: 7/71 as Anthony Douglas, San Francisco, Ca Searching for Birth Family Adoption Home Page: http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~progman/adoption ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 2 03:25:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05548; Sat, 2 Mar 96 03:25:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20081; Sat, 2 Mar 96 03:22:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20075; Sat, 2 Mar 96 03:21:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tspM2-00038FC; Sat, 2 Mar 96 03:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sbercovich@iss100.b400.cbe.ab.ca (Shel Bercovich) Subject: Sentmail name listing Message-Id: <1996Mar1.220607@iss100.b400.cbe.ab.ca> Date: 1 Mar 96 22:06:07 -0600 Have looked for a PINE FAQ, but can't seem to locate one. The Help files in PINE don't seem to answer this question, either. Right now, my sent-mail file lists sent mail "by sender". Would like to have it list sent mail "by recipient". Tried changing what I thought was the appropriate item near the bottom of of .pinerc, but it didn't seem to make any difference. Is there another way to do this? -- \/ Shel Bercovich sbercovich@cbe.ab.ca /\ Join the Trail Riders of the Canadian Rockies (Non-Profit) / \ "Come Ride with Us in Banff National Park" / /\ \ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 2 04:46:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07578; Sat, 2 Mar 96 04:46:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29613; Sat, 2 Mar 96 04:42:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29607; Sat, 2 Mar 96 04:42:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tsqbu-00038TC; Sat, 2 Mar 96 04:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Subject: NeXTMail... any chance PINE will learn it? Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 10:43:46 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was just hoping/wondering if PINE would ever learn how to read NeXTMail. I don't get much, but when I do it is quite a hassle to unpack it by hand. I know there probably isn't a great need/demand for this, but it would be nice. All it would really need to be was something which would uudecode, find the uudecoded file, and untar/uncompress it. Just a thought. TjL From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 2 07:19:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10004; Sat, 2 Mar 96 07:19:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22618; Sat, 2 Mar 96 07:07:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22612; Sat, 2 Mar 96 07:07:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tsspn-00038FC; Sat, 2 Mar 96 07:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@clark.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Pine erroneously splitting 1 msg into 2 msgs, why? Date: 2 Mar 1996 10:11:43 GMT Message-Id: <4h96sv$nqq@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have noticed something which I believe is a misbehavior of the Pine mailer. The following message, which was sent as one single message, is being erroneously split into two messages by the Pine mailer running on a Sun Unix system. Pine is cutting off the message at the first "--02" etc. separator. The second message starts with the header "Control:". This message was created by the DARMAIL/PC mailer, and is supposed to be legal MIME syntax. I believe this is legal, valid MIME syntax, and if so, the message should not have been stopped until the "--02"..."--" entry was reached, {which does appear in the end of the message}. Is the message not in valid MIME format, (in which case the Darmail Mailer is in error), or is Pine failing to recognize it, (in which case Pine is at fault). I can't see anything in the message which does not comply with all published RFCs and specifications, so I'm trying to figure out why Pine was splitting the message, terminating the first half at the point I indicated. I am trying to find out if our program has done anything not in compliance with all published specifications for mail as specified in the RFCs. The message appears below. Sincerely, Paul Robinson Chief Programmer, Darmail/PC General Manager, Tansin A. Darcos & Company/TDR, Inc. "An employee owned company" >From tdarcos@clark.net Fri Mar 1 10:17 EST 1996 Received: from clark.net (tdarcos@clark.net [168.143.0.7]) by mail.Clark.Net (8.7.3/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA12762; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 10:17:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tdarcos@localhost) by clark.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) id KAA16230; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 10:17:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdr.com by smtpgate.tdr.com; Fri, 01 Mar 1996 10:10:02 EST Received: from one-true by tdr.com; Fri, 01 Mar 1996 10:10:03 EST Message-ID: <01.1996Mar01.09h59m51s.ONE-TRUE@TDR.COM> Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 09:59:51 EST From: Paul Robinson To: Mark Davis X-Mailid: postt 18 May 95 10:13:25 pm; task 10639 Subject: Re: Original charter for newsgroup? Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.religion.christian.boston-church Followups-To: alt.config References: <4h098n$bj8@firebrick.mindspring.com> Organization: One True Church of God, Inc., AMN-SC, Silver Spring MD USA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="02.1996Mar01.09h59m51s.ONE-TRUE@TDR.COM" Content-Length: 7183 Status: RO X-Status: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --02.1996Mar01.09h59m51s.ONE-TRUE@TDR.COM Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 28 Feb 1996 00:53:40 GMT, Mark Davis wrote: : Question: Is there a way to find out the original purpose for a : newgroup? Yes. : I am active in a newsgroup (alt.religeon.christianity.boston-church) I presume you mean, alt.religion.christianity.boston-church, and I'll use that as the example for this article. HOWEVER, having gone and done this to see, I discover that is not the correct name. The correct name is alt.religion.christian.boston-church, and that is the one I'll use in the examples given here. : out that no one really knows what the original charter of the group : was and have asserted thier right to recruit in the group... I would : however like to find a way to actually get the original charter (if : such a thing exists) and be able to post it. UUNET archives ALL newgroup/rmgroup postings for ALL newsgroups. (Since 1981 with one month missing in 1982, and ALL since 1983). If the newgroup command was issued since 1983, the message doing so will be there. If that message included the charter, then you can get it from that message. You can pick up whatever has been issued for a newgroup command via ftp from UUNET using the following example: ftp://ftp.uu.net/control//.Z Where "" is the part of the name up through but not including the first period, e.g. alt,comp,bionet,tdr, etc. And "" is the full name of the group. The .Z indicates that the file is compressed, and you need to use UNCOMPRESS to extract it as a text file. So for that group, the file would be From modemac@netcom.com Wed Mar 1 06:00:41 1995 Control: newgroup alt.religion.christian.boston-church Newsgroups: alt.config Path: uunet!panix!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newshost.marcam.com!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!modemac From: modemac@netcom.com (Modemac) Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.religion.christian.boston-church Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 10:42:39 GMT Approved: modemac@netcom.com Lines: 62 Sender: modemac@netcom12.netcom.com Xref: uunet control:1718409 Status: RO X-Status: For your newsgroups file: alt.religion.christian.boston-church The international Church of Christ. [This newsgroup was proposed on alt.config on Saturday, February 19, 1995. There has been a considerable amount of discussion concerning the organization known as the "Boston Church of Christ," evidencing the need for a its own newsgroup. The majority of messages in the newsgroup creation discussion were in favor of its creation, with the only real point of contention being the name of the newsgroup itself. The extension "boston-church" is under the 14-character limit for Usenet newsgroup names, and it seems to be the best phrase to bring the name "Boston Church of Christ" to the attention of the reader.] Charter of the newsgroup: Alt.religion.christian.boston-church is a Usenet newsgroup for discussion of the organization best known to the world at large as the "Boston Church of Christ." This organization has subsidiaries in major cities across the United States and in other countries, such as London. It also goes by the name of "International Church of Christ," though its Boston name is still widely used. The actions of this organization have sparked a debate over whether this organization is, in fact, a "cult:" a group that attempts to influence and control the thoughts of its members. Defenders of the Church of Christ deny this claim, saying that it is a religious study group. Critics of the organization have noted that the actions taken by the group to control its members and counter critics mirror the actions used by other alleged "cults" to silence criticism, including the suppression of the right to free speech. One of the greatest advantages of the Internet is its (relatively) uncensored free speech. There is no way to completely control a discussion in a Usenet newsgroup, which makes Usenet an ideal forum for the discussion of controversial subjects, such as alleged religious cults. Hence the need for alt.religion.christian.boston-church. Topics to be discussed on this forum include: - The difference between the Boston Church of Christ to other, similarly named "Churches of Christ." - The history of the organization and its leaders. - Attempts to contact members of the organization by friends and family members. - Alleged actions taken by the organization to silence or counter critics, and to silence those who have left the organization. - Statements by members of the Church of Christ on the fairness of accusations that their organization is a cult. - Any other topic of discussion that focuses on the Church of Christ. In controversial discussions such as this one, distorted truths and lies are likely to be used by both sides of the argument. The free speech of the Internet can be used to separate the truth from the lies, and reveal the truth about the organization known as the Boston Church of Christ. -- +---------------------------------------+ | Reverend Modemac (modemac@netcom.com) | +--------------+ "There is no black and white." +-------------+ | First Online Church of "Bob," A Subfaction of the Excremeditated | | Congregation of the Overinflated Head of L. Ron Hubbard | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ FINGER modemac@cambridge.village.com for a FREE SubGenius Pamphlet!! --02.1996Mar01.09h59m51s.ONE-TRUE@TDR.COM-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 2 08:35:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11244; Sat, 2 Mar 96 08:35:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02144; Sat, 2 Mar 96 08:32:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02138; Sat, 2 Mar 96 08:32:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tsuDP-00038FC; Sat, 2 Mar 96 08:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Pete Fanning Subject: Compiling Pine on AIX 4.1.4 Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 09:21:25 -0600 Message-Id: <313715F5.532C264D@milwaukee.tec.wi.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can't for the life of me get PINE to build on AIX 4.1.4. Has anyone done this successfully? I've tried using the a32 build, but am getting nowhere. Any source/file mods I need to make to get it to go? TIA Pete Fanning Email: fanningp@milwaukee.tec.wi.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 2 08:36:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11298; Sat, 2 Mar 96 08:36:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23534; Sat, 2 Mar 96 08:33:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-11.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23528; Sat, 2 Mar 96 08:33:30 -0800 Received: from localhost by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 3 Mar 96 00:33:06 +0800 Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 00:33:06 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "Timothy J. Luoma" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: NeXTMail... any chance PINE will learn it? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 29 Feb 1996, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > I was just hoping/wondering if PINE would ever learn how to read > NeXTMail. I don't get much, but when I do it is quite a hassle to unpack > it by hand. > > I know there probably isn't a great need/demand for this, but it would be > nice. All it would really need to be was something which would uudecode, > find the uudecoded file, and untar/uncompress it. Well, pine can already do that.... Use the "|" to pipe the mail to the process that you would normally execute by hand. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 2 09:14:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12176; Sat, 2 Mar 96 09:14:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02694; Sat, 2 Mar 96 09:12:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02688; Sat, 2 Mar 96 09:12:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tsuom-00038TC; Sat, 2 Mar 96 09:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nevin Kapur Subject: Re: forwarding mail In-Reply-To: <4h4ldo$at4@ns2.ryerson.ca> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <4h4ldo$at4@ns2.ryerson.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 23:23:53 GMT On 29 Feb 1996, Roderick Amio - CSCI/F95 wrote: > I have 2 email addresses. > Is there a way for pine to automatically send email from 1 account to the > other? > Any help would be appreciated. Create a .forward file in the area from where you want mails to be automatically forwarded and put in the email address of the account to which you want mails to be forwarded. Nevin. ____________________________________________________________________________ Nevin Kapur * Electrical Engineering * Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay INTERNET http://ee.iitb.ernet.in/~nevin, nevin@ee.iitb.ernet.in MAIL C20 Garib Soc.,5th NS Rd.,JVPD Scheme,Bombay,400049.India PHONE 628 1091, 624 0272 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 2 09:15:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12209; Sat, 2 Mar 96 09:15:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24054; Sat, 2 Mar 96 09:12:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24048; Sat, 2 Mar 96 09:12:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tsuoi-00038FC; Sat, 2 Mar 96 09:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nevin Kapur Subject: Re: Q: Mail Receipt? In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 23:38:43 GMT On Thu, 29 Feb 1996, Xiaohua Wang wrote: > Hi, netters: > > > How can I get a receipt after I send a mail to someone in PINE? > You will have to add the header "Return-Receipt-To:" in your Customised Header List. This can be done by going into Setup (Configure). Now on invoking Rich Headers (^R), you can enter an email address where you will receive the receipt. Nevin. ____________________________________________________________________________ Nevin Kapur * Electrical Engineering * Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay INTERNET http://ee.iitb.ernet.in/~nevin, nevin@ee.iitb.ernet.in MAIL C20 Garib Soc.,5th NS Rd.,JVPD Scheme,Bombay,400049.India PHONE 628 1091, 624 0272 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 2 11:16:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14527; Sat, 2 Mar 96 11:16:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25493; Sat, 2 Mar 96 11:08:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Princeton.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25487; Sat, 2 Mar 96 11:08:16 -0800 Received: from cedman.remote.Princeton.EDU by Princeton.EDU (5.65b/2.124/princeton) id AA18389; Sat, 2 Mar 96 14:08:13 -0500 Received: from capitalist.princeton.edu by capitalist.princeton.edu (8.6.12/1.115) id OAA21005; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 14:08:11 -0500 Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 14:08:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: NeXTMail... any chance PINE will learn it? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 3 Mar 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Thu, 29 Feb 1996, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > > I was just hoping/wondering if PINE would ever learn how to read > > NeXTMail. I don't get much, but when I do it is quite a hassle to unpack > > it by hand. > > > > I know there probably isn't a great need/demand for this, but it would be > > nice. All it would really need to be was something which would uudecode, > > find the uudecoded file, and untar/uncompress it. > > Well, pine can already do that.... Use the "|" to pipe the mail > to the process that you would normally execute by hand. Yes, I know that. However, I have to pipe it each time I read the message, which is annoying. NeXT should have made a commandline binary a long time ago for reading NeXTMail, but they never did. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma NeXT Info Available via email on: PPP under NeXTStep, swapfiles, swapdisks, hidden dwrites, NeXTStep tricks and shortcuts, NeXTStep FAQ, and more... For details, send message with subject 'send info' From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 2 14:48:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17915; Sat, 2 Mar 96 14:48:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27902; Sat, 2 Mar 96 14:33:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27896; Sat, 2 Mar 96 14:33:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tszqh-00038FC; Sat, 2 Mar 96 14:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Seth Rogovoy Subject: Newsgroup Order Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 11:03:48 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to change the order in which the newsgroups appear when I first open my newsgroup folder. How do I do this? ***************************************** Seth Rogovoy rogovoy@berkshire.net http://www.berkshireweb.com/rogovoy music news, interviews, reviews, et. al. ***************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 2 15:08:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18307; Sat, 2 Mar 96 15:08:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28240; Sat, 2 Mar 96 15:03:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28234; Sat, 2 Mar 96 15:03:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tt0JS-00038FC; Sat, 2 Mar 96 15:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: g8810526@mcmail.cis.McMaster.CA (Andrew Fung) Subject: How to convert mail folder format from UNIX pine to PC-Pine? Date: 2 Mar 1996 12:06:05 -0500 Message-Id: <4h9v5t$lfg@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA> I have been a pine user on UNIX for a few years. Recently, I start to use PC-PINE. I tried downloading the mail folders back to my PC but I cannot use PC-PINE to read the saved mails. Is there convertion needed in order to read under PC-PINE? Can anyone please help me how to convert the files? Thanks a lot! Andrew Fung Image Analysis Lab andrew@vision1.eng.mcmaster.ca Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering g8810526@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 2 15:08:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18349; Sat, 2 Mar 96 15:08:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06862; Sat, 2 Mar 96 14:58:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06856; Sat, 2 Mar 96 14:58:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tt0Fh-00038FC; Sat, 2 Mar 96 14:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jobolea@copland.udel.edu (Joseph Louis Bolea) Subject: Mailing list Date: 2 Mar 1996 10:47:45 -0500 Message-Id: <4h9qj1$497@copland.udel.edu> How can I send one message to several people without having to type their adddress each time? -- ******************************************************************* Joseph L. Bolea, Delcastle Technical High School, 1417 Newport Road Wilm. DE. 19804, 302-995-8100, fax 995-8197, email jobolea@udel.edu ******************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 2 18:34:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21397; Sat, 2 Mar 96 18:34:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09247; Sat, 2 Mar 96 18:23:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09240; Sat, 2 Mar 96 18:23:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tt3RZ-00038TC; Sat, 2 Mar 96 18:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: donny@ms1.hinet.net (Donny Lee) Subject: Re: Mailing list Date: 3 Mar 1996 01:18:03 GMT Message-Id: <4has0b$rvl@netnews.hinet.net> References: <4h9qj1$497@copland.udel.edu> Joseph Louis Bolea (jobolea@copland.udel.edu) wrote: : How can I send one message to several people without having to type their : adddress each time? You first might have to create a mailing-list in your pine address section, give it a name, and put it in the to: field when you want to send messages to the group of people. // Donny From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 2 19:05:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21879; Sat, 2 Mar 96 19:05:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00966; Sat, 2 Mar 96 18:58:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00960; Sat, 2 Mar 96 18:58:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tt3zb-00038FC; Sat, 2 Mar 96 18:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: idoh@cais.com (Haisam K. Ido ) Subject: Re: help attach and foreign characters (extended ASCII) Date: 3 Mar 1996 01:33:47 GMT Message-Id: <4hastr$rrj@news2.cais.com> References: Chris Travers (travers@danenet.wicip.org) wrote: : [...] : The second concerns extended ASCII characters such as an e with an accent : on top: : I can upload an English text into a Pine message, but if I try to upload : an ascii text file written in French, all the extended characters get : stripped or misinterpreted. Can you help me find a solution for this : (does some kind of filter/transposer exist ?) I believe that you have to set your character set under setup to be iso-8859-1 which contains the International Standard Organization's standard for Latin based alphabets. This set should contain what you mention above. I hope this helps. : : I am sure you have received these types of questions many times and I : apologize for the redundancy. I did try to find the answer to these : problems in the online help, but somehow they eluded me. My web : administrator hasn't found an answer either. : : Many thanks, : Chris Travers -- +-------------------------------------------------+ Haisam K. Ido +-------------------------------------------------+ * ___ __ ___ ___ * * __ \ |__| \ \ | __|___\ \ \ / \| ___/ ___/\___/\___|___ | |__/ \___/\___/\__\__// * * | * * +-------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 2 19:33:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22331; Sat, 2 Mar 96 19:33:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01341; Sat, 2 Mar 96 19:30:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from scls1.suffolk.lib.ny.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01334; Sat, 2 Mar 96 19:30:09 -0800 Received: (from hbookout@localhost) by scls1.suffolk.lib.ny.us (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA26791; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 22:33:24 -0500 Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 22:33:24 -0500 (EST) From: Bookout To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine Attachments Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello & thanks in advance for your help, When I name the file I have uploaded into my personal directory as an attachment, a file I created in Microsoft Word and saved as a text file, I get a message and if I send the mail anyway, there is a brief notice that the file is not in my directory. I know that it is there, because when I open my personal file, it is named there and I can view it in its entirety. What can I do to attach these files? They are too long to copy & paste. Henry hbookout@suffolk.lib.ny.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 2 20:36:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23176; Sat, 2 Mar 96 20:36:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10722; Sat, 2 Mar 96 20:34:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10716; Sat, 2 Mar 96 20:34:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tt5Q1-00038FC; Sat, 2 Mar 96 20:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Cogito Ergo Sum Subject: Help with deleting Incoming Message Folders Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 03:59:02 GMT I am in need of some advice on how to delete the folders that I was able to create under Incoming Message Folders. When I try to delete any of these created ones, Pine tells me that there're no such folders. I was able to delete them after making files in my directory with the same names as the folders, but they always came back after I restart Pine. I have two twin folders, i.e. two named SURVEY and two named TEST, and I can't seem to get rid of any of them. Can someone please email me on how to go about fixing this problem. Thanks Stephen Yuen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 2 22:17:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24671; Sat, 2 Mar 96 22:17:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03269; Sat, 2 Mar 96 22:09:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03263; Sat, 2 Mar 96 22:09:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tt6xK-00038FC; Sat, 2 Mar 96 22:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Curtis C. Snyder" Subject: Help with Signature. Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 21:36:19 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Could someone please tell me how to make a signature file? Thanks, Curtis Snyder From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 2 22:26:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24823; Sat, 2 Mar 96 22:26:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12002; Sat, 2 Mar 96 22:19:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11996; Sat, 2 Mar 96 22:19:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tt76K-00038TC; Sat, 2 Mar 96 22:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chris Foo Subject: Rejected mail.. Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 12:34:26 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is their any way for Pine to automatically delete messages from a certain address? i.e Mail Daemon set...I receive several rejected messages daily, and I just wanted to have Pine delete 'em. I know that a prog. called BeyondMail can do it..Thanks for any replies... **************************************************************************** Chris Foo University of Ottawa, Biochemistry aj061@freenet.carleton.ca s1052274@aix2.uottawa.ca USS Defiant NX-74205 _________________________ __.--'--,.-' ---------'--'--' /`-.__ |__--(--( | NX-74025 ==== /-----.`--._ `---.__\ --========)> |__|___)_> `-. \_________|________/ `----' Worf: "Be quiet! Or disappear back where you came from." Q: "I can't disappear...anymore than you could win a beauty contest." --"Deja Q" ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 2 23:41:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25948; Sat, 2 Mar 96 23:41:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04167; Sat, 2 Mar 96 23:34:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04161; Sat, 2 Mar 96 23:34:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tt8GA-00038FC; Sat, 2 Mar 96 23:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ji Zhang Subject: Q: How to set attachmnt format ? Date: 1 Mar 1996 18:35:33 GMT Message-Id: <4h7g1l$2hj@nrcnet0.nrc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit when send a mail by pine, how to set attachmnt file encoding format ? For example, the recipient prefer to receive a file in uuencoded format, or prefer to receive 8 bit banary codes (such as Chinese GB or BIG5) without mpack or uuencode. Or they have to deal with mpacked files ? Could you please reply to -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ~{UE<*~} JI Zhang M-32 NRC 613-990-2501 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 2 23:42:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25982; Sat, 2 Mar 96 23:42:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12789; Sat, 2 Mar 96 23:34:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12783; Sat, 2 Mar 96 23:34:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tt8GA-00038TC; Sat, 2 Mar 96 23:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chaos@college.antioch.edu (Yazz Atlas) Subject: Looking for PGP Pine Date: 1 Mar 1996 12:46:19 -0500 Message-Id: <4h7d5b$j05@college.antioch.edu> I'm looking for PGP Pine. Anybody know where to download the newest version of it? I'm using PGP Elm right now but not enough. Would love to use a Pine version instead. Thanks in advance Yazz Atlas PGP sig is trashed right now... oops From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 3 03:28:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29961; Sun, 3 Mar 96 03:28:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06649; Sun, 3 Mar 96 03:24:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06643; Sun, 3 Mar 96 03:24:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ttBph-00038FC; Sun, 3 Mar 96 03:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: johnh@david.wheaton.edu (John C. Hayward) Subject: possible leap year bug in pine? Date: 29 Feb 1996 22:44:58 -0600 Message-Id: <4h5vca$jap@david.wheaton.edu> Dear Piners, Today (Feb 29th) we have had many people who run pine-3.89 crash on starting up with a complaint about invalid msgno in some structure followed by a floating point error. With pine-3.91 I noticed that mail was sorted in a particularly interesting way - it was to be sorted in reverse date. All day I saw the number of mail messages growing but I was a bit confused because the top mail message was Feb 28. Upon close examination I noticed that messages dated Feb29th (and even one dated March 1 (from Australia) occured below the Feb 28th messages. Messages before Feb28th occured in the correct order. We are running this on Ultrix 4.4 system. I believe either a bug in pine or one in Ultrix 4.4 (ticked by pine) is the cause of both of these problems. Anyone have similar problems? If you know a fix please e-mail to: johnh@wheaton.edu johnh... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 3 05:15:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02643; Sun, 3 Mar 96 05:15:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16670; Sun, 3 Mar 96 05:10:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16664; Sun, 3 Mar 96 05:10:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ttDUr-00038FC; Sun, 3 Mar 96 05:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuiop@pixi.com (Yui Op) Subject: help when i try to post on tin in usenet the body off my message doesnt arrive only the header ,how to stop this? Date: 3 Mar 1996 12:00:55 GMT Message-Id: <4hc1lo$p3t@rigel.pixi.com> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 3 05:36:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03178; Sun, 3 Mar 96 05:36:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08177; Sun, 3 Mar 96 05:30:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08171; Sun, 3 Mar 96 05:30:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ttDqq-00038FC; Sun, 3 Mar 96 05:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@clark.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Re: Reacting to subject line Date: 2 Mar 1996 10:54:55 GMT Message-Id: <4h99dv$nqq@clarknet.clark.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 27 Feb 1996 16:24:15 +0200, Macman wrote: : ... possible to put Pine sending a certain msg (with a file : attached) if someone has sent me a msg w/ subj. line for example : GET ME KALI . What I mean is that if someone sends me a message : with a certain subject line, Pine would answer with a certain message. : Is it possible? No. If you're on a Unix system, you will need to use the .forward feature and the Procmail program to do this. Try "man procmail" for more details. I have not been able to figure out how to get it to work, myself, but I know some people have. I wish I could, I could use the capability myself. Paul Robinson General Manager Tansin A. Darcos & Company/TDR, Inc. --- Among Other things, we sell and service ideas. Call 1-800-TDARCOS from anywhere in North America if you are interested in buying an idea to solve one of your problems. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 3 05:52:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03618; Sun, 3 Mar 96 05:52:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17172; Sun, 3 Mar 96 05:50:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17166; Sun, 3 Mar 96 05:50:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ttE6a-00038FC; Sun, 3 Mar 96 05:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Emmanuel Koku Subject: Re: saving an edited mail Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 16:01:16 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: THERE ARE TWO WAYS YOU COULD DO THIS. First, export the mail into a file and then edit it. Then you could mail it back to yourself. Second, you could "FORWARD" the mail to yourself and then in that process, block out and delete parts of the mail. To block out sections of the mail, press the control key and the ^ in sequence, so you have (ctrl-^), this blocks a section and then you can use ^K - cut text to chop it off. I've just done that with your previous mail. Cheers, Emmanuel. > > On Mon, 26 Feb 1996, A. Sarma Kovvali wrote: > > hi, From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 3 07:47:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06116; Sun, 3 Mar 96 07:47:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09905; Sun, 3 Mar 96 07:39:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs.stritch.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09899; Sun, 3 Mar 96 07:39:29 -0800 Received: by acs.stritch.edu; id AA13299; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 09:40:06 -0600 Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 09:40:06 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Esten To: Bookout Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Attachments In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 2 Mar 1996, Bookout wrote: > Hello & thanks in advance for your help, > When I name the file I have uploaded into my personal directory as an > attachment, a file I created in Microsoft Word and saved as a text file, > I get a message and if I send the mail > anyway, there is a brief notice that the file is not in my directory. > > I know that it is there, because when I open my personal file, it is > named there and I can view it in its entirety. > > What can I do to attach these files? They are too long to copy & paste. ......if you are using "attachment", why bother to convert to text to begin with. As long as it is "text", you can can use ^R to include it in the body of the message. If you must use an attachment, be careful of the filename - if you are typing it recall the case matters to UNIX. Try using ^T and then selecting the attachment instead of typing the name. My experience has been however, that attachment is best used only for binary files, use the ^R include for text - also helps out thee receiver if they are using an older mail handler. Jim Jim Esten (temporarily between .sigs) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 3 08:31:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07227; Sun, 3 Mar 96 08:31:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10495; Sun, 3 Mar 96 08:20:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10489; Sun, 3 Mar 96 08:20:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ttGVO-00038FC; Sun, 3 Mar 96 08:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brian Horn Subject: Missing doc/pine-ports file ?? Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 17:34:15 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've looked and looked. Just where is that doc/pine-ports file ?? The build says its around, but I sure don't see it anywhere. It doesn't seem to be at the ftp.cac.washington.edu site either. | Brian H. Horn bhhorn@creighton.edu | | http://bluejay.creighton.edu/~bhhorn | | Opinions expressed are my own, not necessarily those of | | my employer. | | Subvert the Dominant Paradigm | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 3 11:07:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11612; Sun, 3 Mar 96 11:07:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12871; Sun, 3 Mar 96 11:00:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12865; Sun, 3 Mar 96 11:00:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ttJ1Q-00038TC; Sun, 3 Mar 96 11:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: humprey@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN (Humprey C. Sy) Subject: Re: Help re Talk Date: 2 Mar 1996 16:06:25 GMT Message-Id: <4h9rm1$god@nntp.dlsu.edu.ph> References: <4h9rih$god@nntp.dlsu.edu.ph> : If your pine is configured to enable suspension, you could also press : CTRL-Z to temporarily go into your unix shell, then after talking with : him/her, go back to pine by typing exit. This way, you can come back ^^^^ I meant fg. Sorry. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 3 11:10:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11711; Sun, 3 Mar 96 11:10:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21642; Sun, 3 Mar 96 11:05:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21636; Sun, 3 Mar 96 11:05:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ttJ2X-00038FC; Sun, 3 Mar 96 11:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: humprey@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN (Humprey C. Sy) Subject: Help on Installing Pine Date: 2 Mar 1996 16:12:00 GMT Message-Id: <4h9s0g$god@nntp.dlsu.edu.ph> I've just installed pine on my own UNIX OS, and I wonder how come I can't seem to send mail to anyone in my local host. After composing a message in pine, I'd find out, after a quick inspection with 'mailq' that there's always a 'name server timeout' error. What does this mean, and how can I work this out. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! - Humprey - From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 3 11:11:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11790; Sun, 3 Mar 96 11:11:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21546; Sun, 3 Mar 96 11:00:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21540; Sun, 3 Mar 96 11:00:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ttJ1O-00038FC; Sun, 3 Mar 96 11:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: humprey@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN (Humprey C. Sy) Subject: Re: Help re Talk Date: 2 Mar 1996 16:04:33 GMT Message-Id: <4h9rih$god@nntp.dlsu.edu.ph> References: : On Mon, 19 Feb 1996, Gordon or Connie Marigold wrote: : > Hello everyone, : > : > I'm afraid this may be a stupid question, but ... While I was in : > Pine, I got a message at the bottom of the screen asking for a Talk : > session. I had not done this before and did not know what to do. I now : > have instructions, but they say "from the unix prompt". Does this mean I : > need to make a quick note of the person who wants to talk to me and then : > quit pine and go into unix? Or what? If your pine is configured to enable suspension, you could also press CTRL-Z to temporarily go into your unix shell, then after talking with him/her, go back to pine by typing exit. This way, you can come back right at where you left off... - Humprey - From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 3 14:31:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15722; Sun, 3 Mar 96 14:31:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15762; Sun, 3 Mar 96 14:26:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15756; Sun, 3 Mar 96 14:26:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ttMCG-00038FC; Sun, 3 Mar 96 14:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "A. Phil Smith" Subject: Re: DOWNLOAD BLUES!!! Date: 3 Mar 1996 21:16:55 GMT Message-Id: <4hd287$298@nntp1.best.com> References: <1996Feb18.192538.7458@lafn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You may want to download the Siren Mail POP client. It is fully MIME compliant. This client runs under Windows 3.1, Windows 95 and NT. It is being contributed to the net community for free, with absolutely no license restrictions whatever. Try it at http://www.siren.com or download directly from http://www.aeinc.com/siren/dwnld.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 3 14:32:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15754; Sun, 3 Mar 96 14:32:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24379; Sun, 3 Mar 96 14:26:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24370; Sun, 3 Mar 96 14:26:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ttMCj-00038TC; Sun, 3 Mar 96 14:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Rejected mail.. Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 20:40:24 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Chris Foo wrote: > Is their any way for Pine to automatically delete messages from a certain > address? i.e Mail Daemon set...I receive several rejected messages daily, > and I just wanted to have Pine delete 'em. I know that a prog. called > BeyondMail can do it..Thanks for any replies... Pine will not do this for you. You have to use some program which will pre-process the incoming mail before Pine gets hold of it. On Unix systems, two commonly used pre-processors are procmail and filter. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 3 20:56:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22749; Sun, 3 Mar 96 20:56:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20630; Sun, 3 Mar 96 20:52:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20624; Sun, 3 Mar 96 20:52:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ttSDC-00038TC; Sun, 3 Mar 96 20:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Vartan Ghazarian Subject: When loging is it possible Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 22:06:38 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII that it shows at the unix prompt how many email you have in your pine. What i mean..lets say I log in to my account and it says %(shell Prompt) before that it usually says.."You have mail or you have new mail" is there a way it shows how many mail there is? if anyone knows an answer I would appreciate it.. 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(SMTP Id#: 10035) - Forward Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 15:11:09 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4gv93l$el8@rain.psg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4gv93l$el8@rain.psg.com> agora@www.undp.org I think this is the address.. you send a message with body www send http://(url here) and they will send you the info on that web page. I have all the info about doing archie, ftp, www, gopher etc. through e-mail on my web page. This may not be the right address since I have not used it in a long time. Rasheed On 27 Feb 1996 kjs@lbbc.lb.com wrote: > This may not be terribly helpful, but I remember reading back when WWW > access wasn't as common as it is now about somewhere you could E-mail > with a URL and it would E-mail back the text. Does anyone know what that > address is? It could help our web-less friend here. --- R a B s a rbaqai@uci.edu h q http://www.ics.uci.edu/~rbaqai/ e a University of California, Irvine-Information & Computer Science e i d From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 3 22:43:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24597; Sun, 3 Mar 96 22:43:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01056; Sun, 3 Mar 96 22:38:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01050; Sun, 3 Mar 96 22:38:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ttTsv-00038UC; Sun, 3 Mar 96 22:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: unclebob@ripco.com (Uncle Bob) Subject: Typing non-standard characters Date: 2 Mar 1996 04:40:32 GMT Message-Id: <4h8jg0$5a5@gail.ripco.com> How does one type non-standard, ASCII characters in Pine? -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Uncle Bob..............unclebob@ripco.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 3 23:11:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25133; Sun, 3 Mar 96 23:11:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22368; Sun, 3 Mar 96 23:09:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22362; Sun, 3 Mar 96 23:08:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ttUIA-00038WC; Sun, 3 Mar 96 23:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cain@geomag.gly.fsu.edu (Joseph Cain) Subject: dumb startup questions Date: 27 Feb 1996 18:45:05 GMT Message-Id: <4gvjfh$ekv@news.fsu.edu> I have recently decided to start getting serious about using Pine, especially since my newly upgraded (to Sun OS4.1.4) Openwindows mail tool seems freaky. My initial questions are: 1. Is there a way to easily reformat my .mailrc aliases into .addressbook? 2. Is there an easy way to use emacs in place of Pico? 3. I want to use folders already established in my ~/mail directory, but when I use ~/mail it does not like that, and wants some kind of [ brackets. I put a [ in front of the path, and it seems to work ok, but still complains. Putting the whole path in [] brackets does not seem to work at all. ________________________________________________________________________ Joseph Cain cain@geomag.gly.fsu.edu (904) 644-4014 (office) FAX (904) 644-4214 (904) 385-0227 (residence) http://geomag.gly.fsu.edu/~cain From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 4 10:06:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12244; Mon, 4 Mar 96 10:06:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11068; Mon, 4 Mar 96 09:48:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11062; Mon, 4 Mar 96 09:48:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tteJ1-00038FC; Mon, 4 Mar 96 09:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mraaum@uio.no (Margrete Raaum) Subject: Re: Remote News Server (SMTP Id#: 10740) - Reply Date: 4 Mar 1996 15:44:04 GMT Message-Id: <4hf344$cvo@ratatosk.uio.no> References: <4h4umk$1ev@rain.psg.com> I artikkel <4h4umk$1ev@rain.psg.com>, (Kim Scarborough) tastet: >>> I sent a message a while ago about getting newsgroups from a remote >>> news server I have an account on while still running Pine on this >>> server. >> >>In the configure menu, fill in the "nntp-server" entry with the >>name of your news server. > >I did that, but when I try to get to news, it tells me "502 You have no >permission to talk. Goodbye." I don't have the same login here as I do >there, could that be part of the problem? Most news-servers are not open for anyone to use. If you are in a different domain than the server this will probably be why you get this error-message. Mrg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 4 11:41:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16644; Mon, 4 Mar 96 11:41:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05267; Mon, 4 Mar 96 11:23:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05261; Mon, 4 Mar 96 11:23:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ttfoa-00038FC; Mon, 4 Mar 96 11:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Caeltigern Subject: Re: Help re Talk Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 00:23:59 -0700 Message-Id: References: <4gbl04$6fb@gail.ripco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4gbl04$6fb@gail.ripco.com> On 20 Feb 1996, Uncle Bob wrote: > Gordon or Connie Marigold (marigold@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote: > : Hello everyone, > > : I'm afraid this may be a stupid question, but ... While I was in > : Pine, I got a message at the bottom of the screen asking for a Talk > : session. I had not done this before and did not know what to do. I now > : have instructions, but they say "from the unix prompt". Does this mean I > : need to make a quick note of the person who wants to talk to me and then > : quit pine and go into unix? Or what? > > : TIA > > : Connie (marigold@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu) > > Connie, > > If you want to engage in the "talk" session, you need to quit Pine and go > to your shell prompt. Then, perform the "talk soandso@blah.blah.com" > command to connect with the person calling you. Yes, jot down the address > because you might forget it backing out. > > -- > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > Uncle Bob..............unclebob@ripco.com > > > Greetings; This is the first time I have tried this - hope is works! I received a "talk" message tonight and didn't know what do either. I think maybe I'm getting the idea of how to respond. But, how do you initiate a talk session? All help will be gratefully accepted. Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Kris Hunt kralni@argo.unm.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 4 11:47:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16860; Mon, 4 Mar 96 11:47:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05773; Mon, 4 Mar 96 11:38:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05767; Mon, 4 Mar 96 11:38:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ttg5f-00038TC; Mon, 4 Mar 96 11:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: idoh@cais.com (Haisam K. Ido ) Subject: How to fix READ-ONLY INBOX problem Date: 4 Mar 1996 14:29:40 GMT Message-Id: <4heuok$dfi@news2.cais.com> 1) You need to know where your inbox is: eg. /usr/mail/yourid or /var/mail/yourid and not the one in your home directory. Your ISP can provide you with that information. 2) Once you know where your inbox is type: chmod ug=rw /usr/mail/yourid Which gives access to the user=u and group=g to read=r and write=w to /usr/mail/yourid. Now, when you do an ls -al /usr/mail/userid you should get something like this: -rw-rw---- 1 youid mail 111299 Mar 4 14:13 /usr/mail/yourid You might also want to do this before the chmod statement, to see how things have changed. I hope this helps. -- +-------------------------------------------------+ Haisam K. Ido +-------------------------------------------------+ * ___ __ ___ ___ * * __ \ |__| \ \ | __|___\ \ \ / \| ___/ ___/\___/\___|___ | |__/ \___/\___/\__\__// * * | * * +-------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 4 12:06:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17749; Mon, 4 Mar 96 12:06:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14207; Mon, 4 Mar 96 11:33:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14199; Mon, 4 Mar 96 11:33:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ttfxP-00038FC; Mon, 4 Mar 96 11:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: u9307198@muss.cis.McMaster.CA (S. Vattompadam) Subject: Help with mail filtering Date: 4 Mar 1996 04:51:45 -0500 Message-Id: <4heefh$3j2@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA> Could someone please tell me how to do mail filtering? All I want to do is have email from mailing lists go to their own folders instead of the normal inbox. I tried typing "man procmail" at the unix prompt, but it says there is no entry for procmail, so I'm assuming my school doesn't have it installed. Is there any way to do this from Pine 3.91? Please CC your responses to me just so I don't miss it. Thanks. -- Sanjay Vattompadam Computer Science II u9307198@muss.cis.mcmaster.ca McMaster University Hamilton, Ontario, Canada From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 4 15:01:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26528; Mon, 4 Mar 96 15:01:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20370; Mon, 4 Mar 96 14:54:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20364; Mon, 4 Mar 96 14:54:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ttj5m-00038FC; Mon, 4 Mar 96 14:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: unclebob@ripco.com (Uncle Bob) Subject: Re: Help re Talk Date: 20 Feb 1996 05:08:20 GMT Message-Id: <4gbl04$6fb@gail.ripco.com> References: Gordon or Connie Marigold (marigold@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote: : Hello everyone, : I'm afraid this may be a stupid question, but ... While I was in : Pine, I got a message at the bottom of the screen asking for a Talk : session. I had not done this before and did not know what to do. I now : have instructions, but they say "from the unix prompt". Does this mean I : need to make a quick note of the person who wants to talk to me and then : quit pine and go into unix? Or what? : TIA : Connie (marigold@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu) Connie, If you want to engage in the "talk" session, you need to quit Pine and go to your shell prompt. Then, perform the "talk soandso@blah.blah.com" command to connect with the person calling you. Yes, jot down the address because you might forget it backing out. -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Uncle Bob..............unclebob@ripco.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 4 21:40:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09441; Mon, 4 Mar 96 21:40:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19832; Mon, 4 Mar 96 21:35:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19814; Mon, 4 Mar 96 21:35:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ttpOl-00038FC; Mon, 4 Mar 96 21:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: g053200@spdsjw.gteds.gtenet.com (Stephen J. Weihman) Subject: Re: When loging is it possible Date: 4 Mar 1996 16:35:15 GMT Message-Id: <4hf643$iai@ceylon.gte.com> References: In article , Vartan Ghazarian writes: >that it shows at the unix prompt how many email you have in your pine. >What i mean..lets say I log in to my account and it says %(shell Prompt) >before that it usually says.."You have mail or you have new mail" is >there a way it shows how many mail there is? That's a function of your system, not Pine. It's generally checked a login using mail or mailx. In scanning the man pages for both, I don't see a message count option. Check with your system administrator, they may be able to help. ------------------------------------------------------- -- Stephen J. Weihman -*- GTE Data Services -- ------------------------------------------------------- -- The opinions expressed herein are entirely my -- -- own, and are not necessarily those of GTE. -- ------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 4 21:52:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09730; Mon, 4 Mar 96 21:52:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20070; Mon, 4 Mar 96 21:50:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20064; Mon, 4 Mar 96 21:50:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ttpZ6-00038TC; Mon, 4 Mar 96 21:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: systhvu@cc5.kuleuven.ac.be () Subject: Internet PC mail based on IMAP ? Date: 4 Mar 1996 13:21:52 GMT Message-Id: <4heqpg$1hi@chaos.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be> Hello, As far as I understand the so called Internet PCs will have no hard disk but you can use mail on them. Will they be IMAP based ? -Herman- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 4 21:53:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09764; Mon, 4 Mar 96 21:53:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29219; Mon, 4 Mar 96 21:50:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29213; Mon, 4 Mar 96 21:50:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ttpZ6-00038FC; Mon, 4 Mar 96 21:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Katydid Information SystemS Inc Subject: Help with Error Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 21:13:42 +0000 Message-Id: <313A0B86.2334@katydid.on.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ** No valid author specification present ** I get the above error when I try to send mail. It then comes around and says that the mail was sent and copied to the sent-mail. The mail was copied to the sent mail, but it did not get sent. Any ideas? Any help is appreciated Chris Nolan cnolan@katydid.on.ca Katydid Information SystemS, Inc http://fox.nstn.ca/~gkerr From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 5 00:29:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12798; Tue, 5 Mar 96 00:29:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01517; Tue, 5 Mar 96 00:25:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01511; Tue, 5 Mar 96 00:25:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tts3B-00038FC; Tue, 5 Mar 96 00:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Caeltigern Subject: Re: Help re Talk Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 22:24:52 -0700 Message-Id: References: <4gbl04$6fb@gail.ripco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: William, thanks for the information, but, when do I type "talk........"? Also, I was not familiar with the person who initiated the talk session, is there a way one can just do a "open" talk session ? I have only had my computer for about a month and on line for just a while longer than that through the university I attend, I admit, I am rather illiterate - but trying to learn. Thanks for help. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Kris Hunt kralni@argo.unm.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 5 03:47:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16957; Tue, 5 Mar 96 03:47:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24585; Tue, 5 Mar 96 03:40:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24579; Tue, 5 Mar 96 03:40:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ttv51-00038FC; Tue, 5 Mar 96 03:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Rejected mail.. In-Reply-To: Chris Foo's message of Fri, 1 Mar 1996 12: 34:26 -0500 Message-Id: References: Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 21:51:29 GMT In article Chris Foo writes: Is their any way for Pine to automatically delete messages from a certain address? i.e Mail Daemon set...I receive several rejected messages daily, and I just wanted to have Pine delete 'em. I know that a prog. called BeyondMail can do it..Thanks for any replies... Is there no way to cure the problem leading to the bounces, rather than just ignoring it? Regards, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4824 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 5 05:21:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20138; Tue, 5 Mar 96 05:21:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05326; Tue, 5 Mar 96 05:05:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05320; Tue, 5 Mar 96 05:05:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ttwMg-00038FC; Tue, 5 Mar 96 05:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ctorlins@crl.com (Christoph Torlinsky) Subject: pine and pop3 Date: 3 Mar 1996 13:02:19 -0800 Message-Id: <4hd1cr$37s@crl.crl.com> How can I setup pine to use an external POP3 server on an NTbox by default when picking up mail from one unix host? So say, someone runs pine and it goes out to the external pop3 server picksup the mail copies it to the localhosts and users directory and thats done by default for all pine users on this particular unix system. I want to basicly eliminate the need for every of my systems to be doing pine and mail to the outside world, i'd rather have a dedicated mailserver for all my systems topickup mail from within pine. thanks. -chris From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 5 05:30:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20312; Tue, 5 Mar 96 05:30:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26062; Tue, 5 Mar 96 05:25:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26056; Tue, 5 Mar 96 05:25:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ttwkO-00038FC; Tue, 5 Mar 96 05:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sherman@bdm.com (Scott Herman) Subject: FAQ for this newsgroup? Date: 4 Mar 1996 17:08:11 GMT Message-Id: <4hf81r$rnh@news.mcl.bdm.com> Greetings all, Is there a FAQ for this newsgroup which provides general information on PINE? If so, I would appreciate it if someone could send it to me at SHerman@bdm.com Thanx. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 5 05:37:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20411; Tue, 5 Mar 96 05:37:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05537; Tue, 5 Mar 96 05:25:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05531; Tue, 5 Mar 96 05:25:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ttwkO-00038TC; Tue, 5 Mar 96 05:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: g053200@spdsjw.gteds.gtenet.com (Stephen Weihman) Subject: Re: Help with Signature. Date: 4 Mar 1996 16:19:59 GMT Message-Id: <4hf57f$hgj@ceylon.gte.com> References: In article , "Curtis C. Snyder" writes: > >Could someone please tell me how to make a signature file? Using your favorite text editor, create a file (normally .signature in your home directly) that has the info you want in the signature. To find the file name that Pine expects, go into Setup/Config from the Main menu, and find the entry for signature-file. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 5 07:23:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22437; Tue, 5 Mar 96 07:23:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27367; Tue, 5 Mar 96 07:06:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kalypso.cybercom.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27359; Tue, 5 Mar 96 07:06:05 -0800 Received: (from cfennell@localhost) by kalypso.cybercom.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA21954; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:05:57 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:05:57 -0500 (EST) From: Curt Fennell To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Attribution and Multiple .sigs Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have two questions about pine..... 1. Is there any way to change the attribution for quoted text? IOW, instead of saying (at the top) "On 4 Mar 1996, Joe Foo wrote:", can I change that to be something else? 2. Is there any way for pine to handle multiple .sig files? Thanks, Curt ___ ____ __ | _ \/ __/| \ Curt Fennell @ Fidelity (Curtis.Fennell@FMR.com) | _/\__ \| \ \ Phone: (617) 392-0277 Pager: 800-759-8888 #547-9576 |_| /___/|_|__\ ______http://www.cybercom.net/~cfennell/___________ Email: cfennell@pencom.com Pencom System Administration From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 5 08:00:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23550; Tue, 5 Mar 96 08:00:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28287; Tue, 5 Mar 96 07:55:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from harbiye.kho.edu.tr by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28206; Tue, 5 Mar 96 07:51:48 -0800 Received: (from h4829@localhost) by harbiye.vatan.kho.edu.tr (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA00121; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 21:58:49 +0200 Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 21:58:47 +0200 (EET) From: Apolet 4829 X-Sender: h4829@harbiye.vatan.kho.edu.tr To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: h4829@harbiye.kho.edu.tr Subject: getting information about messages that was in my e-mail box Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Excuse me please inform me about what happend to messages in my e_mail box. I am a student at university.I went to holiday for twentyfive days so I have not use my e_mail box approximetly for a month. when I returned to school I entered my e_mail box but I was shocked because my e_mail box that had included many massages was empty. however,I was expecting messages from my friends during the holiday, but my e_mail box was opened with no messages.all messages in my e_mail box was deleted. Could I reach deleted messages or not? If you help me I will be pleased Thanks a lot I am waiting for your message as soon as possible. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 5 08:44:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24999; Tue, 5 Mar 96 08:44:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08492; Tue, 5 Mar 96 08:21:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08484; Tue, 5 Mar 96 08:21:13 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27692; Tue, 5 Mar 96 08:21:00 -0800 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 08:20:59 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Christoph Torlinsky Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine and pop3 In-Reply-To: <4hd1cr$37s@crl.crl.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine does not yet have *offline* support, which is what it sounds like you want (that's download msgs and delete them from the server). Pine does, however, support *online* operation via IMAP so you can move the Pine processing cycles safely to other machines. See RFC-1733 for definitions. See http://www.washington.edu/imap for info on IMAP. -teg On 3 Mar 1996, Christoph Torlinsky wrote: > How can I setup pine to use an external POP3 server on an NTbox > by default when picking up mail from one unix host? So say, someone > runs pine and it goes out to the external pop3 server picksup the mail > copies it to the localhosts and users directory and thats done by default > for all pine users on this particular unix system. I want to basicly > eliminate the need for every of my systems to be doing pine and mail to > the outside world, i'd rather have a dedicated mailserver for all my systems > topickup mail from within pine. > > > thanks. > > -chris > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 5 08:49:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25207; Tue, 5 Mar 96 08:49:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29353; Tue, 5 Mar 96 08:38:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vm1.NoDak.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29347; Tue, 5 Mar 96 08:38:04 -0800 Received: from orca.fhcrc.org by VM1.NoDak.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 05 Mar 96 10:37:46 CST Received: by orca.fhcrc.org (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA29226; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 08:38:01 -0800 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 08:38:01 -0800 (PST) From: Brent Blumenstein To: hans.rimbach@hik.fzk.de Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Printing from Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine runs on AIX. My workstation (actually a docked notebook computer) runs OS/2 Warp Connect. Warp connect has TCP/IP sevices built in. I use Pine in a telnet session on the AIX computer. When I prYnt the output is directed to the OS/2 spooling system and thence to the Deskjet 500 attached to the workstation. Using the ansiprt command (AIX) in a telnet session also results in the output being sent to the attached printer on my workstation. This also works for prior versions of OS/2 and the TCP/IP support package for OS/2 from IBM, but I recommend Warp Connect. I do not understand all the details (the standards that have been followed, for example), but needless to say I am delighted with the result. It would seem that other combinations of OSs and TCP/IP support packages should also be able to achieve this functionality. I have experience only with OS/2. -- Brent A. Blumenstein | tel.: 206 667 4623 Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center | fax: 206 667 4408 1124 Columbia Street MP-557 | e-mail: brentb@orca.fhcrc.org Seattle, WA 98104 USA | On Wed, 28 Feb 1996 hans.rimbach@hik.fzk.de wrote: > On 24 Feb 1996, Brent Blumenstein wrote: > > > Funny - it works quite well qith my Deskjet 500. I use pine for AIX from > > a PC with OS/2 Warp Connect. It has also worked well with previous > > versions of OS/2. > > PINE for AIX with OS/2 ???????? > > How should this work ???? > > > ***************************************************************************** > * Hans Juergen Rimbach ** * > * FZK Karlsruhe, Abt. HDI ** * > * Email: rimbach@hdi.fzk.de ** * > * Tel: 07247-82-5657 ** * > * Fax: 07247-82-4972 ** * > ***************************************************************************** > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 5 09:12:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26593; Tue, 5 Mar 96 09:12:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09286; Tue, 5 Mar 96 08:51:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.southern.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09280; Tue, 5 Mar 96 08:51:43 -0800 Received: from chicago.southern.com (chicago.southern.com [199.1.38.104]) by ns.southern.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA08613 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:51:22 GMT Received: from localhost (scott@localhost) by chicago.southern.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA13379 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:51:48 GMT Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:51:48 +0000 (GMT) From: Scott Barsky To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine question Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII with my new pine update my cancel function does not work in any of the many applications. could someone let me know why. thanks scott From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 5 09:23:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26989; Tue, 5 Mar 96 09:23:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00364; Tue, 5 Mar 96 09:05:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00358; Tue, 5 Mar 96 09:05:54 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 5 Mar 1996 15:41:39 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id PAA21113; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 15:41:14 GMT Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 15:41:14 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Scott Herman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: FAQ for this newsgroup? In-Reply-To: <4hf81r$rnh@news.mcl.bdm.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The FAQ, plus lots of other information and an archive of past messages to the Pine-Info mailing list, can be found on the World-Wide Web at: http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/ Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 4 Mar 1996, Scott Herman wrote: > Greetings all, > > Is there a FAQ for this newsgroup which provides general information on > PINE? If so, I would appreciate it if someone could send it to me at > > SHerman@bdm.com > > Thanx. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 5 12:32:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05642; Tue, 5 Mar 96 12:32:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05910; Tue, 5 Mar 96 12:21:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05904; Tue, 5 Mar 96 12:21:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tu3Dt-00038FC; Tue, 5 Mar 96 12:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Simon Subject: Re: When loging is it possible Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 19:08:29 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Try something like: echo "`from | wc -l` messages in INBOX." in your .login or whatever. ___ _ _a' /( <. # Simon Bradley: Knight Protector # / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _~~ _}\ \( _ ) # E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk # \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(,_(,)' # Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk # <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>, _>, # URL: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ # On Sun, 3 Mar 1996, Vartan Ghazarian wrote: > that it shows at the unix prompt how many email you have in your pine. What > i mean..lets say I log in to my account and it says %(shell Prompt) before > that it usually says.."You have mail or you have new mail" is there a way > it shows how many mail there is? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 5 13:30:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08555; Tue, 5 Mar 96 13:30:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17205; Tue, 5 Mar 96 13:16:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17199; Tue, 5 Mar 96 13:16:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tu42P-00038FC; Tue, 5 Mar 96 13:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: William Gray Subject: Re: Un-Expanding Address Book? Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 21:32:39 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: yes just tap any letter such as "I" William Gray wgray@puc.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 5 13:53:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09431; Tue, 5 Mar 96 13:53:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08446; Tue, 5 Mar 96 13:46:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08438; Tue, 5 Mar 96 13:46:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tu4XI-00038FC; Tue, 5 Mar 96 13:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jlarkin@navaho.eel.ufl.edu (Joseph C. Larkin) Subject: Posting Mail to a Newsgroup Date: 5 Mar 1996 20:26:31 GMT Message-Id: <4hi81n$7uu@huron.eel.ufl.edu> Is is possible in pine to take a received mail message and post it to a newsgroup? It could be done by saving to a file and then attaching the file to the posting, but is there a way to do it in less steps? Joe Larkin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 5 14:26:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10455; Tue, 5 Mar 96 14:26:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09299; Tue, 5 Mar 96 14:19:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs.stritch.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09291; Tue, 5 Mar 96 14:19:42 -0800 Received: by acs.stritch.edu; id AA01338; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:19:47 -0600 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:19:47 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Esten To: Scott Barsky Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 5 Mar 1996, Scott Barsky wrote: > > with my new pine update my cancel function does not work in any of the > many applications. could someone let me know why. thanks How are you connecting to your server? It sounds like a keystroke map issue such as that in the Mac telnet. You can disable the normal program use of ^C so that the correct character gets to the unix server. Jim Esten (temporarily between .sigs) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 5 14:37:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11063; Tue, 5 Mar 96 14:37:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18769; Tue, 5 Mar 96 14:19:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18763; Tue, 5 Mar 96 14:19:22 -0800 Received: (from michael@localhost) by linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA15518; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 14:19:59 -0800 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 14:19:58 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Schuyler X-Sender: michael@linknet To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine as an Events Calendar Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I notice UW uses Pine as an events calendar. Docs tell of special switches such as -nr used in conjunction with uwin. I set up a separate pine invocation using these switches and made pine read-only and looking very much like the events calendar. Except: 1) Dates are date message was sent, not date of event 2) Full headers appear in the messages. I suspect there is a special file format used in conjunction with the events options, but I haven't found any specs for this on the ftp server. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Note: please excuse a terse reply. I broke my right wrist and have a hard ==== time typing. o o o o o o o . . . _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | Kitsap Regional | | LinkNet Support | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | Library | | 'least we try! | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|____________________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ============================================================================ Support: (360) 405-9131 Fax:(360) 405-9128 support@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us Michael Schuyler: Voice:(360) 405-9139 michael@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 5 17:04:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17388; Tue, 5 Mar 96 17:04:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13747; Tue, 5 Mar 96 16:57:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13741; Tue, 5 Mar 96 16:57:33 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07111; Tue, 5 Mar 96 16:55:58 -0800 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:55:55 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Michael Schuyler Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine as an Events Calendar In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I believe the "events calendar" uses a standard Berkeley format folder, but the messages are edited manually to have the desired headers/dates, etc. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 5 Mar 1996, Michael Schuyler wrote: > Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 14:19:58 -0800 (PST) > From: Michael Schuyler > X-Sender: michael@linknet > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Pine as an Events Calendar > Message-ID: > > I notice UW uses Pine as an events calendar. Docs tell of special > switches such as -nr used in conjunction with uwin. I set up a separate > pine invocation using these switches and made pine read-only and looking > very much like the events calendar. Except: > > 1) Dates are date message was sent, not date of event > 2) Full headers appear in the messages. > > I suspect there is a special file format used in conjunction with the > events options, but I haven't found any specs for this on the ftp server. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Note: please excuse a terse reply. I broke my right wrist and have a hard > ==== time typing. > > o o o o o o o . . . _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ > o _____ | Kitsap Regional | | LinkNet Support | > .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | Library | | 'least we try! | > >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|____________________|_ > _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` > ============================================================================ > Support: (360) 405-9131 Fax:(360) 405-9128 support@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us > Michael Schuyler: Voice:(360) 405-9139 michael@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 5 18:21:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20207; Tue, 5 Mar 96 18:21:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25206; Tue, 5 Mar 96 18:17:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25200; Tue, 5 Mar 96 18:17:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tu8mZ-00038FC; Tue, 5 Mar 96 18:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tom farrell Subject: install imapd-bin on sunos 4.1.3 ?? Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 17:25:47 -0700 Message-Id: <3137958B.660C36F0@pvs.k12.nm.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi... I have several people using pop mail on a sun 4/280 running sunos4.1.3. It's stable and I don't want to mess it up :-) To accomodate those who want to run Pine on other machines but collect mail from this sun (ie, they're not going to run Pine on the sun), can I simply get imapd-bin.sun.Z from ftp.cac.washington.edu, expand it and put it in place?? Will it then respond to mail "queries" from users who set up this sun as a remote folder host (since they can already successfully get pop mail from it) ?? I'd love it if it were so simple... replies to much appreciated tom -- tom farrell pojoaque middle school pojoaque nm 87401 "Beauty is in the i of the Beholder" (Julia Mandelbrot) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 6 00:18:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27074; Wed, 6 Mar 96 00:18:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20452; Wed, 6 Mar 96 00:15:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20446; Wed, 6 Mar 96 00:15:06 -0800 Received: from taski by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA06972 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Wed, 6 Mar 1996 09:15:04 +0100 Received: (from bruin@localhost) by pori (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA27739; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 09:13:56 +0100 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 09:13:56 +0100 (MET) From: Kees de Bruin X-Sender: bruin@pori To: Pine Info mailing list Subject: Compilation of Pine3.91 under Linux ELF Message-Id: Organization: Tasking Software B.V. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Have people managed to compile Pine under Linux ELF (kernel 1.3.71, gcc 2.7.0, libc 5.2.12). I get the following error when compiling the IMAP client, file os_lnx.c: In file included from /usr/include/linux/socket.h:6, from /usr/include/sys/socket.h:5, from os_lnx.c:42: /usr/include/linux/uio.h:18: redefinition of `struct iovec' I have already applied the patch from the Infomagic CDROM (aug'95) for Linux ELF. I have no problems compiling either Pine (doesn't link) or Pico. Kind regards, Kees de Bruin -- | | __ .-. .-. Kees de Bruin Tasking Software BV B O S T O N | |/ / _| | | |_ ------------- | ( / _ | | _ \ bruin@tasking.nl +31-33-4 55 85 84 S Y S T E M S |_|\_\ \___| |___/ fax: +31-33-4 55 00 33 ------------- O F F I C E Mistakes are often the stepping stones to utter failure -----###----- T A S K I N G From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 6 05:58:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06426; Wed, 6 Mar 96 05:58:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25054; Wed, 6 Mar 96 05:37:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25012; Wed, 6 Mar 96 05:35:39 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 6 Mar 1996 12:33:21 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA04424; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 12:33:42 GMT Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 12:33:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Joseph C. Larkin" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Posting Mail to a Newsgroup In-Reply-To: <4hi81n$7uu@huron.eel.ufl.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ANY message you receive (or indeed compose) can be sent using e-mail, Usenet News or both. When you forward, reply-to or compose your article ONE of the two headers "To:" or "Newsgroups:" will be completed (depending on whether Pine thinks you are currently reading mail or news). If you leave things like this the message will be sent ONLY to that collection of people (the person being e-mailed (EXCLUSIVE-)OR the newsgroup). However you can quite easily put the cursor on any header line and type ^R (Rich Headers) to see *all* the available headers. Thus you can add a "To:" (e-mail address) to a Usenet News article or a "Newsgroups:" list to an e-mail message and have the result simultaneously to both e-mail and News. In your particular case.... 1. View the e-mail message you have received. 2. Use "F" to start a "Forward". 3. Use ^R to show all headers and fill in the newsgroup name(s) in the "Newsgroups:" header field. 4. Fill in the "To:" field as well only if you want a copy e-mailing to someone too. 5. Modify the Subject and message text as appropriate. 6. Send. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 5 Mar 1996, Joseph C. Larkin wrote: > Is is possible in pine to take a received mail message and > post it to a newsgroup? It could be done by saving to a file > and then attaching the file to the posting, but is there a > way to do it in less steps? > > Joe Larkin > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 6 06:35:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07393; Wed, 6 Mar 96 06:35:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05551; Wed, 6 Mar 96 06:17:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hermes.cti.gr by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05545; Wed, 6 Mar 96 06:16:32 -0800 Received: by hermes.cti.gr id AA05670 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 6 Mar 1996 16:08:38 +0200 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 16:08:37 +0200 (EET) From: Dimakopoulos Panagiotis To: Johan Holmberg Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: RFC1342 (printing 8-bit chars in the Subject) In-Reply-To: <6391j7q9t1.fsf@promotor.telia.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Charset: ISO_8859-7 X-Char-Esc: 29 On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Johan Holmberg wrote: > > A couple of days ago I wrote: > > > > Dimakopoulos Panagiotis writes: > > > > > > Does anybody know if a patch has been released for pine to comply > > > with the RFC1342 ? This RFC describes an extension to the message > > > format defined in RFC 1341 (MIME) to allow the representation of > > > character sets other than ASCII in RFC 822 message headers. > > > > > > > I have a patch that does this. [...] > > > [...] > > > > I have used this patch a lot on SunOS and IRIX, and beleive it works > > on Solaris-2 and HPUX too. Shouldn't be any problems for other platforms, > > but I just haven't modified the Makefiles for other platforms. > > > > But, since 3.92 isn't far away, I'll probably not do any further work > > on it. > > > > Anyway, if you want to try my patch, send me an email and I'll > > send you the patch. > > > > The patch is now available as > > ftp://ftp.nada.kth.se/pub/i18n/mime_head/pine3.91-jh803.tar.gz > > > /johan holmberg > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Johan Holmberg Email: holmberg@upp.promotor.telia.se > Telia Promotor AB Phone: +46 18 18 94 55 > Box 1218 Mobile: +46 70 528 94 55 > 751 42 Uppsala, SWEDEN Fax: +46 18 18 94 99 > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Hi again, I have the following peculiar situation: I have got two machines running Solaris 2.4 and pine 3.91jh803 on both systems (with your patch in it). The only difference is that on one system is running IDA sendmail and on the other sendmail v8.7.4. When I send a mail from the second system with 8-bit chars inside and when it asks me to choose between Mime or Normal sending (letters M or Y) I press Y. However the message arrives MIME encoded and I also I can see at the bottom of the pine screen that MIME method is used. Could you please tell me how pine decides not to use the simple 8-bit char sending and it prefers to disobey my 'Y' request? I do not think that it has to do with sendmail itself as when I send the message with the greek chars by using "Mail -v dimakop@.." then they arrive at the other end (where IDA sendmail is running) not encoded in MIME. Thank you, ------------------------------------------------------ | Panos Dimakopoulos dimakop@cti.gr | | COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY INSTITUTE | | P.O. Box 1122 | | 261 10 Patras, Greece | | Tel (+30) 61 992061, 994317 Fax (+30) 61 993973 | ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 6 07:33:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08761; Wed, 6 Mar 96 07:33:59 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26439; Wed, 6 Mar 96 07:19:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from TheRock.mcg.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26429; Wed, 6 Mar 96 07:19:29 -0800 Received: by therock.mcg.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA53108; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 10:19:46 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 10:19:46 -0500 (EST) From: Greg Sutherland To: Pine ListServ Subject: Returned mail: Unable to deliver mail (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII One of my users was trying to send to a large distribution list. He got Subject: Returned mail: Unable to deliver mail (fwd) and 554 ... Unbalanced '<' Is there a limit to the size of a distribution list? || Greg Sutherland Mail greg@therock.mcg.edu || || Systems Administrator || || Medical College of Georgia || From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 6 08:31:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10502; Wed, 6 Mar 96 08:31:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27566; Wed, 6 Mar 96 08:15:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from splab.cas.neu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27556; Wed, 6 Mar 96 08:15:18 -0800 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 12:13:46 -0500 (EST) From: JOEHECK@splab.cas.neu.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <960306121346.b8@splab.cas.neu.edu> Subject: VAX/VMS installation help needed I have a Microvax II running VAX/VMS 5.4-2 and Multinet 3.2(i think that's the version). I cannot find any vms files on the washington machine, unless they are in the .Z file. If so, then how do I unpack that file? Or am I missing something along the way? thanks in advance Joe Heck From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 6 08:41:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11054; Wed, 6 Mar 96 08:41:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27545; Wed, 6 Mar 96 08:14:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27539; Wed, 6 Mar 96 08:14:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tuLr9-00038WC; Wed, 6 Mar 96 08:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mraaum@uio.no (Margrete Raaum) Subject: Re: Posting Mail to a Newsgroup Date: 6 Mar 1996 11:40:04 GMT Message-Id: <4hjtik$7i@ratatosk.uio.no> References: <4hi81n$7uu@huron.eel.ufl.edu> In-Reply-To: <4hi81n$7uu@huron.eel.ufl.edu> I artikkel <4hi81n$7uu@huron.eel.ufl.edu>, jlarkin@navaho.eel.ufl.edu (Joseph C. Larkin) tastet: >Is is possible in pine to take a received mail message and >post it to a newsgroup? It could be done by saving to a file >and then attaching the file to the posting, but is there a >way to do it in less steps? Forward it. If newsgroups is not a visible option, type ^R while in header. Mrg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 6 11:43:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19304; Wed, 6 Mar 96 11:43:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12834; Wed, 6 Mar 96 11:30:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12828; Wed, 6 Mar 96 11:30:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tuOtw-00038FC; Wed, 6 Mar 96 11:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pegboy@gti.net ( ) Subject: Re: When loging is it possible Date: 6 Mar 1996 18:20:01 GMT Message-Id: <4hkl0h$atu@gti.gti.net> References: You can also try putting one of these in your .login (or whatever): frm -- shows who mail is from and the subject from -- basically the same as the above messages -- will say 'There are 5 messages in your mailbox' good luck! Simon (syb3@aber.ac.uk) wrote: : Try something like: : echo "`from | wc -l` messages in INBOX." : in your .login or whatever. : ___ _ _a' /( <. # Simon Bradley: Knight Protector # : / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _~~ _}\ \( _ ) # E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk # : \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(,_(,)' # Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk # : <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>, _>, # URL: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ # : On Sun, 3 Mar 1996, Vartan Ghazarian wrote: : > that it shows at the unix prompt how many email you have in your pine. What : > i mean..lets say I log in to my account and it says %(shell Prompt) before : > that it usually says.."You have mail or you have new mail" is there a way : > it shows how many mail there is? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 6 12:07:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20349; Wed, 6 Mar 96 12:07:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03378; Wed, 6 Mar 96 11:50:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03372; Wed, 6 Mar 96 11:50:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tuPBi-00038TC; Wed, 6 Mar 96 11:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pdronzek@efn.org (Pete Dronzek) Subject: How to dl mail from a remote machine in Pine? Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 03:51:48 GMT Message-Id: <313d0b08.12311202@news.efn.org> I'm going to be using Linux to connect via a PPP connection, and I'm wondering if there's some way I can use Pine to connect to my host and dl my mail? I've had no problem using it to send mail thru my host, and have used it to read the news - but I can't seem to figure out how to configure it for this. Many thanks... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 6 12:38:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21723; Wed, 6 Mar 96 12:38:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14379; Wed, 6 Mar 96 12:30:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14373; Wed, 6 Mar 96 12:30:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tuPpm-00038UC; Wed, 6 Mar 96 12:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: date-sensitive signature file Date: 5 Mar 1996 21:51:03 GMT Message-Id: <4hid07$4id@fu-berlin.de> References: <4h98g3$nqq@clarknet.clark.net> tdarcos@clark.net (Paul Robinson) writes: >> I mean, can I put a date in my signature file, and make it change >> according to the actual date of the message to be sent? > If you're on a Unix system, create a file to contain your actual signature > file, with a different name than ".signature". I'll use ".original-signature" > for lack of a better name.Put the following three lines into your .login file: > # Put today's date in all messages sent > date "+This Message was sent %A, %B %e, %Y%n" >.signature > cat .original-signature >>.signature And what happens if you continue to be logged in past midnight? Wrong date! :-( Personally I'd include the date with an editor command. With vi this is as easy as ":r!date". This can easily be mapped to ",," with ":map ,, :r!date ". But why bother? The date is in the "Date:" header line, anyway! Sven -- Sven Guckes guckes@math.fu-berlin.de http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mail/signature.etiquette.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 6 12:47:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22158; Wed, 6 Mar 96 12:47:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14703; Wed, 6 Mar 96 12:40:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14697; Wed, 6 Mar 96 12:40:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tuPzR-00038TC; Wed, 6 Mar 96 12:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: michielp@atf.cmg.nl (Michiel Perdeck) Subject: How to both Post and Mail? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 20:42:24 GMT I noticed tha many people seem to both post a folowup message in a newsgroup and send the same message by mail. How can I do that using Tin, Pine and Pico? Regards, Michiel -- Michiel Perdeck (Michiel.Perdeck@cmg.nl) CMG Finance div. AT From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 6 12:51:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22313; Wed, 6 Mar 96 12:51:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04739; Wed, 6 Mar 96 12:40:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04733; Wed, 6 Mar 96 12:40:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tuPzO-00038FC; Wed, 6 Mar 96 12:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: michielp@atf.cmg.nl (Michiel Perdeck) Subject: Pico Sources Message-Id: Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 20:39:25 GMT Where can I find the source code for Pico so that I can recompile them for my Olivetti Unix platform? Regards, Michiel -- Michiel Perdeck (Michiel.Perdeck@cmg.nl) CMG Finance div. AT From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 6 12:57:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22551; Wed, 6 Mar 96 12:57:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14567; Wed, 6 Mar 96 12:35:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14559; Wed, 6 Mar 96 12:35:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tuPuh-00038TC; Wed, 6 Mar 96 12:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dking@gbc.gbrownc.on.ca (Darren King) Subject: pine dead processes... Date: 4 Mar 1996 15:20:50 -0500 Message-Id: <4hfjb2$3v9@gbc.gbrownc.on.ca> I am running 3.91 on AIX 3.2.5. I have found that dead pine processes eat CPU time a lot and slow my system down. I am talking in the hundreds and thousands of minutes. I suspect that my users are turning their machines off while pine is still running. Any one else notice this? Daz -- Darren King, George Brown College :: -> dking@gbrownc.on.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 6 13:12:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23700; Wed, 6 Mar 96 13:12:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04620; Wed, 6 Mar 96 12:35:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04610; Wed, 6 Mar 96 12:35:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tuPuh-00038FC; Wed, 6 Mar 96 12:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: g053200@spdsjw.gteds.gtenet.com (Stephen J. Weihman) Subject: Re: FAQ for this newsgroup? Date: 4 Mar 1996 19:07:18 GMT Message-Id: <4hff16$k2m@ceylon.gte.com> References: <4hf81r$rnh@news.mcl.bdm.com> In article <4hf81r$rnh@news.mcl.bdm.com>, sherman@bdm.com (Scott Herman) writes: From: http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/01/msg00000.html Where is the latest FAQ? From: The Pine Development Team Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 The most up-to-date version of this FAQ can be found at any of these places: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/faq/ ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/faq mailto:pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu Last updated: 940106 Current release: Pine 3.91, Pico 2.5 > > >Thanx. -- ------------------------------------------------------- -- Stephen J. Weihman -*- GTE Data Services -- ------------------------------------------------------- -- The opinions expressed herein are entirely my -- -- own, and are not necessarily those of GTE. -- ------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 6 15:00:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28236; Wed, 6 Mar 96 15:00:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08274; Wed, 6 Mar 96 14:55:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08268; Wed, 6 Mar 96 14:55:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tuS3h-00038FC; Wed, 6 Mar 96 14:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: E-mail spam adverts Date: 5 Mar 1996 22:16:47 GMT Message-Id: <4hiegf$5el@fu-berlin.de> References: paz@world.std.com (Philip A Zimmermann) writes: >... future version of Pine should include a "spamfile", where the system >administrators can add addresses and subject lines taken from spams and >compare them to those of incoming email, ... Keeping this file up-todate requires that *every* mail that comes in has to be checked. This is a lot of work which requires a person to read all day. Well, I won't pay money for someone to read my mail. Besides, what about my right to receive spam mails if I want them? Furthermore, why should someone else decide which mail will not get? And what happens if that person comes up with a spamfile rule that says "delete every mail that contains the word 'and'"? No way!! Btw, you forgot to add your "CDA supporter signature". HTH. (I just hope this isn't the PGP Zimmermann .. ;-) Sven -- Sven Guckes guckes@math.fu-berlin.de "an interactive computer service"..."patently offensive as measured by contemporary community standards, sexual or excretory activities or organs". PQN BoVaqrprapl: shpx fuvg phag nobegvba pbpxfhpxre zbgureshpx gvgf cvff From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 6 15:01:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28269; Wed, 6 Mar 96 15:01:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18323; Wed, 6 Mar 96 14:55:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18316; Wed, 6 Mar 96 14:55:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tuS6u-00038TC; Wed, 6 Mar 96 14:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roses@mail.eznet.net (roses) Subject: Pine binaries for SVR4? Date: 5 Mar 1996 22:37:26 GMT Message-Id: <4hifn6$5kq@news1.eznet.net> Does anyone know where/if there are compiled Pine binaries for System V Release 4? thanks! kevin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 6 19:35:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07897; Wed, 6 Mar 96 19:35:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14472; Wed, 6 Mar 96 19:31:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14466; Wed, 6 Mar 96 19:31:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tuWL3-00038FC; Wed, 6 Mar 96 19:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: William Parker Subject: How do I save? Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 07:53:09 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i am having fits trying to save things. i use a lab computer at school, where it is very slow getting help info from the system. can someone tell me EXPLICITLY how to save to the A: drive. i will be graduating and want to take some things i have saved in mail folders. thanx. b.parker parkerwi@pirates.armstrong.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 6 19:56:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08379; Wed, 6 Mar 96 19:56:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14814; Wed, 6 Mar 96 19:51:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pobox.harvard.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14808; Wed, 6 Mar 96 19:51:36 -0800 Received: (from dgreen@localhost) by pobox.harvard.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA00678; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 22:53:37 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 22:53:36 -0500 (EST) From: "D. Green" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How Do I Download Attachments? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am using Pine 3.91 with the Zmodem communications program. My system is MAC. When someone sends me attachments, other than plain text (e.g., MS Word), Pine just lists them. It won't allow the attachments to be viewed ("V" command). After using the "S" comand, nothing was sent to my computer. I need to somehow to save or transfer the attachments to my MAC so they are usable. Please, give me explicit instructions, as I am not experienced either with ZModem or UNIX. I am familiar with changing Pine setup configuration, however. Thanks, Dan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 6 22:42:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12344; Wed, 6 Mar 96 22:42:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27501; Wed, 6 Mar 96 22:35:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pluto.irdu.nus.sg by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27481; Wed, 6 Mar 96 22:34:43 -0800 Received: (aaron@localhost) by pluto.irdu.nus.sg (8.6.11/8.6.4) id OAA18578; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 14:34:25 +0800 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 14:34:25 +0800 (WST) From: Aaron Aw To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Using Pine with Elm Filter Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! I've just tried out using Pine with the Elm filter program. So far it works ok.. I just have a question about having several inboxes.. I've enabled the "enable-incoming-folders" function and created another folder called "Pine" to store my incoming mailing list emails. The elm filter program that i'm using contains a rule to save any incoming email with the 'to' header containing 'pine-info' to a folder called "Pine" However when I checked my folders, I found that there's another "Pine" folder created in the Folder-collection ** Default for Saves ** section. Hence I have 2 "Pine" folders... one in the incoming and another in the folder-collection. Can anyone help/advise so that the incoming email will be processed and sent to the "Pine" folder in the incoming section. Thanks for your help Aaron Aw From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 6 22:44:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12399; Wed, 6 Mar 96 22:44:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17477; Wed, 6 Mar 96 22:41:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17471; Wed, 6 Mar 96 22:41:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tuZN5-00038TC; Wed, 6 Mar 96 22:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schisham@ucs.indiana.edu (Sean A Chisham) Subject: Re: When loging is it possible Date: 5 Mar 1996 00:24:47 GMT Message-Id: <4hg1kg$6fo@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> References: <4hf643$iai@ceylon.gte.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I do just what you are talking about by using Procmail to filter my mail. It keeps a log of each piece of mail. It also comes with shell script to tell where the new mail has been filtered into. Everytime I log in I get a message saying size # folder 2013 5 /usr/mail/spool/username 1045 1 procmail 900 1 tubaeuph I then know how many and where they were filtered into. Check out www pages on procmail. Stephen J. Weihman (g053200@spdsjw.gteds.gtenet.com) wrote: : In article , : Vartan Ghazarian writes: : >that it shows at the unix prompt how many email you have in your pine. : >What i mean..lets say I log in to my account and it says %(shell Prompt) : >before that it usually says.."You have mail or you have new mail" is : >there a way it shows how many mail there is? : That's a function of your system, not Pine. It's generally checked a login : using mail or mailx. In scanning the man pages for both, I don't see a : message count option. Check with your system administrator, they may be : able to help. - -- Sean Chisham schisham@indiana.edu finger schisham@copper.ucs.indiana.edu for public PGP key -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQB1AwUBMTuJmc8+3E691hgZAQFfagMAlx3Z4kn0IhoMCyemWCIWurX416mXhg9H CDBXNAJKel6lx8tPnl2fzN3H/aqIIySSLOwuA8dkT7Q7gmVs+RlAyrjG6eE/JN8E qiP7LlbkVriH4FuyEzaiYKk1K+OorDcx =H1Q1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 6 22:45:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12429; Wed, 6 Mar 96 22:45:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27590; Wed, 6 Mar 96 22:41:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27584; Wed, 6 Mar 96 22:41:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tuZN4-00038FC; Wed, 6 Mar 96 22:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: William Gray Subject: Re: Help re Talk Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 14:26:46 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4gbl04$6fb@gail.ripco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: ************************************************************************** Kris: if you are useing a server such as UNIX, when you are at your prompt is when you type "talk .........." If you have any questions just let me know and I'll try to help.... If you would like some over the phone help my number is (707) 965-3223 or my pager # is 1-(800) MCI-PAGE ___pin# 125-2386. talk to ya soon!! Billy Gray!!!!! wgray@puc.edu ************************************************************************** On Sun, 3 Mar 1996, Caeltigern wrote: > Date: Sun, 3 MAR 1996 22:24:52 -0700 > From: Caeltigern > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: Help re Talk > > William, thanks for the information, but, when do I type "talk........"? > Also, I was not familiar with the person who initiated the talk session, > is there a way one can just do a "open" talk session ? I have only had my > computer for about a month and on line for just a while longer than that > through the university I attend, I admit, I am rather illiterate - but > trying to learn. Thanks for help. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Kris Hunt > kralni@argo.unm.edu > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 6 23:00:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12678; Wed, 6 Mar 96 23:00:03 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27772; Wed, 6 Mar 96 22:56:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27766; Wed, 6 Mar 96 22:56:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tuZZf-00038FC; Wed, 6 Mar 96 22:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tony Calguire Subject: Re: Newsgroup Order Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:11:04 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > > In Unix Pine, anyway, you can manually edit your .newsrc file (be > careful!) in your home directory and put the active newsgroups in any > order you want. I do this, and it works just fine. For instance, if I > add a new group, it usually goes to the bottom of the heap, but if I > want it somewhere else, I just rearrange .newsrc. (As I say, be very > careful when editing this file -- it is a critical one.) Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, my system gurus won't let me touch my .newsrc file. > > | I'd also like to know if it's possible to change the name of a newsgroup > | as it appears on my folder list. > > Uhh, why would you want to? So far as I know, the name of a > newsgroup in the folder list *is* the name of the newsgroup and has to > be, or else the reader can't find the group. > I just thought it would be nice if I could have an alias name for a newsgroup that would appear on the screen. If I have someone sitting next to me while I'm using Pine, I'd rather they not find out that I subscribe to alt.fetish.elbows or alt.naughty.stuff. __ _____________ /_____ _____/ Tony Calguire _____/_/____ / __________/ calguire@freenet.msp.mn.us ( (__/ /____ \__/ /____/ / / /_/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 6 23:19:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12998; Wed, 6 Mar 96 23:19:59 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17923; Wed, 6 Mar 96 23:16:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17915; Wed, 6 Mar 96 23:16:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tuZtZ-00038FC; Wed, 6 Mar 96 23:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Newsgroup Order Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 11:01:20 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Tony Calguire wrote: | On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Rasheed Baqai wrote: | | > On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Seth Rogovoy wrote: | > > I would like to change the order in which the newsgroups appear when I | > > first open my newsgroup folder. | > > How do I do this? | > Press $ | No, that's how you change the order of MESSAGES within newsgroups, not | the order of the newsgroups on the folder list screen. As far as I know, | you can't change the order in which the newsgroups are presented in the | folder list. Does anyone else know if this can be done? In Unix Pine, anyway, you can manually edit your .newsrc file (be careful!) in your home directory and put the active newsgroups in any order you want. I do this, and it works just fine. For instance, if I add a new group, it usually goes to the bottom of the heap, but if I want it somewhere else, I just rearrange .newsrc. (As I say, be very careful when editing this file -- it is a critical one.) | I'd also like to know if it's possible to change the name of a newsgroup | as it appears on my folder list. Uhh, why would you want to? So far as I know, the name of a newsgroup in the folder list *is* the name of the newsgroup and has to be, or else the reader can't find the group. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 6 23:56:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13494; Wed, 6 Mar 96 23:56:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28479; Wed, 6 Mar 96 23:51:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28473; Wed, 6 Mar 96 23:51:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tuaPw-00038FC; Wed, 6 Mar 96 23:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Vartan Ghazarian Subject: Date sensitive. Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 20:01:31 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi..I don't know if I have emailed this newsgroup before ...but anyways...I will try to explain again.... Somone on this newsgroup said that you can put current date (automatically) before your signature..and they have said that you have to rename your .signature to anoter fiel name..so I did ..and called it .signatured. and deleted .signature. When I tried it ..(composed an email) it worked fine..it showed the current date..but when i Log in at another time. (after I log out) after it logs in it says .signature already exists...and when i compose an email it writes my signature twice. so when i log off and log on again.. and try to compose it write my sinature 3 times...and so on.. I don't know what to do...or what is wrong..i hope this info help..below there are more info... read-message-folder = signature-file = .signatured global-address-book = address-book = [ ] signature-at-bottom where it says [ ] signature-at-bottom should i make it X? anyresponse I would appreciate...and also is it possible to make it time sensitive? Can it show the current time also before the signature? Since I'm asking alot of questions..I should ask this question also..I downloaded the promail..now I don't know what to do with it..my unix account didn't have procmail..here is the file name that I downloaed it.. procmail-3.10.tar.gz can someone tell me the steps the i should take? in details? I would Really appreciate it..I'm making an Mailing list for an student association and all the help I get I would appreciate it.... Vartan ****************************************************************************** **VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaR ** ****************************************************************************** ** My Home Page! ** ** http://www-home.calumet.yorku.ca/vghazari/www/home.htm ** ** ** ** Vartan Ghazarian Emails: Yu117540@Yorku.Ca ** ** Toronto, Canada vghazari@calumet.yorku.ca ** ** __ __ ___ _____ ________ ___ __ __ ** ** | | | | / _ \ | _ \ |__ __| / _ \ | \ | | ** ** | | | | | |_| | | |_) ) | | | |_| | | | | ** ** \ \_/ / | _ | | _ < | | | _ | | |\ | ** ** \___/ |__| |__| |__| \__\ |__| |__| |__| |__| \__| ** ** ** ****************************************************************************** **VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaR** ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 02:11:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16363; Thu, 7 Mar 96 02:11:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20042; Thu, 7 Mar 96 02:06:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20036; Thu, 7 Mar 96 02:06:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tucYE-00038FC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 02:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Simon Stuart Subject: Killfiles Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 16:28:40 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sorry if this is a stupid question...but is there any way to set up a PINE killfile? Cheers, Simon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 03:11:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17389; Thu, 7 Mar 96 03:11:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00886; Thu, 7 Mar 96 03:07:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00880; Thu, 7 Mar 96 03:06:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tudW7-00038TC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 03:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: marshall Subject: HELP: can't get mail Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 06:20:49 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I can get mail via TCP/IP, under Windows, but not under linux pine (via PPP).. I can get mail with linux Netscape. I have set up pine with the nntp and smtp server addresses. Any help would be appreciates. _-_|\ marshall@diamond.apana.org.au / B <--+ (Marshall Harris) ph:+61 7 3878 2029 \_.-._/ | 55 Thorpe St, Indooroopilly, v +- Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17888; Thu, 7 Mar 96 03:36:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21081; Thu, 7 Mar 96 03:32:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21075; Thu, 7 Mar 96 03:32:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tudrG-00038FC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 03:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michel Jouvin Subject: Re: base64 encode/decode .. pine3.91/digital Unix Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 10:39:11 +0100 Message-Id: <313EAEBF.52BF@lal.in2p3.fr> References: <31359D3B.41C6@ciney.bro.dec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Geert Didden wrote: > > I have pine3.91 running on my digital Unix v3.2a system . > What do I need to do ( or add ) to be able to deal with all possible > attachments which might come as MIME attachments . > When select "View" with a base64 document, I just see encoded text, not > decoded text... > > Thanks for any info. > Geert Didden\\\ Just save it when in the View Attachment menu. It'll be converted. Michel -- ************************************************************** * Michel Jouvin Email : jouvin@lal.in2p3.fr * * LAL / CNRS * * Bat. 200 Tel : +33 1 64468932 * * 91405 Orsay Cedex Fax : +33 1 69079404 * * FRANCE * ************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 05:25:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20580; Thu, 7 Mar 96 05:25:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22311; Thu, 7 Mar 96 05:02:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22305; Thu, 7 Mar 96 05:02:20 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 7 Mar 1996 12:16:54 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA10524; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 12:16:54 GMT Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 12:16:54 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Simon Stuart Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Killfiles In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine 3.91 does not support kill files. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Simon Stuart wrote: > Sorry if this is a stupid question...but is there any way to set up a > PINE killfile? > > Cheers, > Simon > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 05:44:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20849; Thu, 7 Mar 96 05:44:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02687; Thu, 7 Mar 96 05:17:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02681; Thu, 7 Mar 96 05:17:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tufUu-00038FC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 05:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: trulsonj@clem.mscd.edu (Jon Trulson) Subject: Re: E-mail spam adverts Date: 6 Mar 1996 19:00:46 GMT Message-Id: <4hkncu$g03@clem.mscd.edu> References: <4hiegf$5el@fu-berlin.de> Sven Guckes (guckes@math.fu-berlin.de) wrote: : paz@world.std.com (Philip A Zimmermann) writes: : >... future version of Pine should include a "spamfile", where the system : >administrators can add addresses and subject lines taken from spams and : >compare them to those of incoming email, ... : Keeping this file up-todate requires that *every* mail that comes in has to be : checked. This is a lot of work which requires a person to read all day. : Well, I won't pay money for someone to read my mail. : Besides, what about my right to receive spam mails if I want them? : Furthermore, why should someone else decide which mail will not get? : And what happens if that person comes up with a spamfile rule that says : "delete every mail that contains the word 'and'"? : No way!! Actually it would be nice if pine supported the killfile concept for both mail and news. I wouldn't be for a sysadmin defined list of bad addrs, I think that should be a user decision... Oh, it would also be nice if the news subsystem supported threading.. and.. and... ahhh enough for now ;-) : Btw, you forgot to add your "CDA supporter signature". HTH. : (I just hope this isn't the PGP Zimmermann .. ;-) : Sven : -- : Sven Guckes guckes@math.fu-berlin.de : "an interactive computer service"..."patently offensive as measured by : contemporary community standards, sexual or excretory activities or organs". : PQN BoVaqrprapl: shpx fuvg phag nobegvba pbpxfhpxre zbgureshpx gvgf cvff -- -- Jon Trulson Inet: (work) trulsonj@clem.mscd.edu Systems Programmer II : (home) jon@radscan.com Information Technology, Metropolitan State College of Denver, Colorado Patent Pending FREE MARS! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 06:00:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21158; Thu, 7 Mar 96 06:00:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22827; Thu, 7 Mar 96 05:47:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22821; Thu, 7 Mar 96 05:47:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tug1x-00038FC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 05:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dclark@luna.cybercom.net Subject: The pine reply function -- help Date: 7 Mar 1996 06:44:57 -0500 Message-Id: Is there any way of configuring pine so it does not insert ">"'s at the beginning of every line in a replied-to message? -- Daniel JB Clark dclark@pobox.com -- -- Daniel JB Clark dclark@pobox.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 06:59:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22368; Thu, 7 Mar 96 06:59:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03902; Thu, 7 Mar 96 06:45:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03873; Thu, 7 Mar 96 06:42:54 -0800 Received: (from vs@localhost) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.4/8.7.1) id PAA19171; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 15:39:15 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 15:39:15 +0100 (MET) From: Vladimir Solnicky =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=28Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD=29?= To: Dimakopoulos Panagiotis Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Johan Holmberg Subject: Re: RFC1342 (printing 8-bit chars in the Subject) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Acknowledge-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Organizace: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_(=DATIA)_AV_=C8R?= X-Chameleon-Return-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Dimakopoulos Panagiotis wrote: > I have the following peculiar situation: I have got two machines > running Solaris 2.4 and pine 3.91jh803 on both systems (with your patch > in it). The only difference is that on one system is running > IDA sendmail and on the other sendmail v8.7.4. When I send a mail from = the > second system with 8-bit chars inside and when it asks me to choose > between Mime or Normal sending (letters M or Y) I press Y. >=20 > However the message arrives MIME encoded and I also I can see > at the bottom of the pine screen that MIME method is used. Could you > please tell me how pine decides not to use the simple 8-bit char sendin= g > and it prefers to disobey my 'Y' request? >=20 > I do not think that it has to do with sendmail itself as > when I send the message with the greek chars by using "Mail -v dimakop@= .." > then they arrive at the other end (where IDA sendmail is running) > not encoded in MIME. Sorry but it does have to do with sendmail. When sendmail 8.7.* series gets a MIME formated eight-bit message, it checks the next end if it supports 8BITMIME mode (IDA does not) and if not, it converts everything to Quoted-Printable or Base64. It is the supposed and wanted behaviour.=20 If it does such things for non-MIME eight-bit messages depends on configuration options. One solution is to upgrade to sendmail 8.7.4 from IDA.=20 Regards, V. S. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 6884677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz ftp.utia.cas.cz http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-en.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 09:03:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25719; Thu, 7 Mar 96 09:03:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25957; Thu, 7 Mar 96 08:49:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hermes.cti.gr by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25936; Thu, 7 Mar 96 08:49:01 -0800 Received: by hermes.cti.gr id AA13496 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:46:29 +0200 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:46:29 +0200 (EET) From: Dimakopoulos Panagiotis To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine is a MIME news reader? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Charset: ISO_8859-7 X-Char-Esc: 29 Hi, I am trying to read news groups which have 8-bit chars inside (greek characters). However the news articles arrive in 8-bit encoding and not in MIME. With a configuration with some tools that I have set I have managed to send MIME messages to news groups but when I try to read them with pine then I see the original MIME article unencoded. So my question is if pine as a news reader can post and read MIME UseNet news articles. If not, could anybody suggest any MIME news reader? Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------ | Panos Dimakopoulos dimakop@cti.gr | | COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY INSTITUTE | | P.O. Box 1122 | | 261 10 Patras, Greece | | Tel (+30) 61 992061, 994317 Fax (+30) 61 993973 | ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 09:35:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27291; Thu, 7 Mar 96 09:35:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27056; Thu, 7 Mar 96 09:22:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27050; Thu, 7 Mar 96 09:22:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tujKD-00038TC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 09:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nevin Kapur Subject: Re: How to both Post and Mail? In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 19:15:34 GMT On Tue, 5 Mar 1996, Michiel Perdeck wrote: > I noticed tha many people seem to both post a folowup message in a > newsgroup and send the same message by mail. How can I do that using Tin, > Pine and Pico? Using Tin: When you post a followup, the default is mail to the newsgroup and reply to the person to. Using Pine: When posting a followup, if you say 'y' to *Post to Newsgroup*, the message gets posted to the newsgroup and does not get mailed. If you say 'n' then the message is mailed and not posted. Of course, you can change this by actually editing the headers, so that the message gets posted and mailed!! Nevin. NEVIN KAPUR * Electrical Engineering * Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay http://ee.iitb.ernet.in/~nevin, nevin@ee.iitb.ernet.in From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 09:37:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27454; Thu, 7 Mar 96 09:37:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07173; Thu, 7 Mar 96 09:22:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07167; Thu, 7 Mar 96 09:22:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tujKD-00038FC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 09:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nevin Kapur Subject: Re: Posting Mail to a Newsgroup In-Reply-To: <4hi81n$7uu@huron.eel.ufl.edu> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <4hi81n$7uu@huron.eel.ufl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 19:07:17 GMT On 5 Mar 1996, Joseph C. Larkin wrote: > Is is possible in pine to take a received mail message and > post it to a newsgroup? It could be done by saving to a file > and then attaching the file to the posting, but is there a > way to do it in less steps? If you use Pine for news reading/posting too, then you could just forward the mail and fill in the newsgroup in the header so that the message is posted to a newsgroup rather than mailed. Nevin. NEVIN KAPUR * Electrical Engineering * Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay http://ee.iitb.ernet.in/~nevin, nevin@ee.iitb.ernet.in From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 10:39:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29882; Thu, 7 Mar 96 10:39:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28686; Thu, 7 Mar 96 10:27:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28680; Thu, 7 Mar 96 10:27:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tukOx-00038FC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 10:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pww@bnr.ca (Peter Whittaker) Subject: Re: Spell checking with pine Date: 7 Mar 1996 16:52:56 GMT Message-Id: <4hn498$ooh@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> References: In article , Bill Jenuwine wrote: >So if by default, Pine uses the simple Unix spell checker, how can I >change this default AND/OR specify my own alternate dictionary for words It took a bit, but I found the answer in the pico man page: set the environment variable SPELL to the name of an external spelling checker which reads stdin and writes to stdout. Sadly, this is not the most useful way of doing things: IWBNI pico could pass the spell checker a file, then suck that file back in once the spell checker exited successfully. pww -- Peter Whittaker [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] X.500 Specialist pww@entrust.com [ http://www.entrust.com ] Nortel Secure Networks Ph: +1 613 765 2064 [ ] P.O. Box 3511, Station C FAX:+1 613 765 3520 [__________________________] Ottawa, Canada, K1Y 4H7 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 10:55:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00956; Thu, 7 Mar 96 10:55:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09437; Thu, 7 Mar 96 10:42:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09429; Thu, 7 Mar 96 10:42:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tukcO-00038FC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 10:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mats Ormhed Subject: Re: How to create an alias for yourself? Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 08:55:50 +0100 Message-Id: <31316786.41C67EA6@celsiustech.se> References: <4glmq5$t94@news.tamu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I was searching through the Pine help screens, but can't find this > (maybe > I'm just looking in the wrong places heheh!)... > > I'd like to set up an alias for myself, so people can email sarah_jahn > rather than sfj3212. How does one go about doing this? Is it possible in > Pine? > > Puzzled, > Sarah Sorry, you can't (else, you could set up your self as the "postmaster" for example). Ask your system administrator to create an alias for you (only that person can usually create machine-global aliases, and they have nothing to do with pine). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 10:56:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01013; Thu, 7 Mar 96 10:56:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29143; Thu, 7 Mar 96 10:42:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29137; Thu, 7 Mar 96 10:42:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tukdC-00038UC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 10:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: buff@zip.io.org (William Denton) Subject: Can I set From: line based on remote inbox location? Date: 6 Mar 1996 20:08:00 -0500 Message-Id: <4hlctg$4l3@zip.io.org> I run Linux at home and use Pine here to get to my mail on a few different sites that are slow to connect to and often have high system loads. It's a lot faster that way, especially being able to edit locally. However, this gives me the following problem: When I reply to mail that's been sent to my home machine, the From: address plugged in is correct. But when I reply to mail that's been sent to foo.com, it also plugs in my home address, not my foo.com address. Is there some way I can associate different e-mail addresses with the different inboxes I'm accessing? A friend suggested I use different .pinercs, but this means I have to either quit Pine and restart it or run two copies at once. Thanks for any help, Bill Denton -- -------------- William Denton | | buff@io.org | Caveat lector. "Let's keep the party polite." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 11:09:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01604; Thu, 7 Mar 96 11:09:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29503; Thu, 7 Mar 96 10:54:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hermes.cti.gr by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29497; Thu, 7 Mar 96 10:53:59 -0800 Received: by hermes.cti.gr id AA14308 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 7 Mar 1996 20:51:34 +0200 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 20:51:33 +0200 (EET) From: Dimakopoulos Panagiotis To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Dimakopoulos Panagiotis , Stathakopoulos Giorgos , Balafas Giannis Subject: Does pine use MIME for UseNet news? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Charset: ISO_8859-7 X-Char-Esc: 29 I am trying to post and read UseNet News articles with greek chars (8-bit chars) using pine. However they arrive to the group as 8 bit chars and not in MIME encoding. I also have made a configuration which, eventually posts an article encoded in MIME. When I try to read it by using pine I see the MIME chars and not the original message. Does this mean that MIME does not suupport MIME encoding/decoding in news reading? If I am right ould somebody suggest a MIME newsreader? Thank you, ------------------------------------------------------ | Panos Dimakopoulos dimakop@cti.gr | | COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY INSTITUTE | | P.O. Box 1122 | | 261 10 Patras, Greece | | Tel (+30) 61 992061, 994317 Fax (+30) 61 993973 | ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 11:18:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02101; Thu, 7 Mar 96 11:18:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10129; Thu, 7 Mar 96 11:07:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10123; Thu, 7 Mar 96 11:07:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tuky1-00038FC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 11:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Greg Howland Subject: Re: Changing *username* on outgoing mail messages Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 20:42:25 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > ... Is there any way I can configure pine to use a > different user name (ie. dlane) in place of root for outgoing mail?? > Please say yes! I do not subscribe to the pine-info mailing list, so > please send mail to dlane@lincoln.ac.nz! >From the main menu in Pine, select 'set-up' and 'config'. Select the category called 'customized headers' and enter the headers you wish to customize. (Once 'customized headers' is highlighted, you can type '?' to get help from Pine. Let me know if this works. --Greg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 16:01:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12433; Thu, 7 Mar 96 16:01:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07470; Thu, 7 Mar 96 15:53:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07464; Thu, 7 Mar 96 15:53:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tupRk-00038XC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 15:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mraaum@uio.no (Margrete Raaum) Subject: Re: plus d'info Date: 26 Feb 1996 15:37:17 GMT Message-Id: <4gsk3d$nu8@ratatosk.uio.no> References: <199502231245.NAA24833@bule.univ-angers.fr> In-Reply-To: <199502231245.NAA24833@bule.univ-angers.fr> I artikkel <199502231245.NAA24833@bule.univ-angers.fr>, marsault@bule.univ-angers.fr (anthony marsault) tastet: >j'aimerai avoir si possibles des informations sur des personnes ou m=EAmes= > des >e-mail sur des personnes qui habite l'ouest de la france Vous devez demander par example a fr.misc.divers ou fr.network.divers, pas a comp.mail.pine. Margrete From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 16:08:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12840; Thu, 7 Mar 96 16:08:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17727; Thu, 7 Mar 96 16:03:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17721; Thu, 7 Mar 96 16:03:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tupca-00038FC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 16:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: James Shattuck Subject: Re: Quoted text Question Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 13:29:28 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > On Wed, 28 Feb 1996, Jack Hunter wrote: > > : Is there anyway to change the prefixed > in front of quoted text to : > : I have used this for quite awhile in YARN and would like to use it in Pine. > > If you are running Pine under some form of Unix and if you have a > World Wide Web browser, I have a technique for doing this on my Web page. > > Paul > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA > Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key > Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart Boy, is that some cheezy advertising!! :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ James Alan Shattuck Computer Science Major Disabled Student Services - High Tech Center CSU, Chico 898-5959 DSS Home Page: http://www.csuchico.edu/dss/ Born: 9/3/63 Adopted: 7/71 as Anthony Douglas, San Francisco, Ca Searching for Birth Family Adoption Home Page: http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~progman/adoption ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 16:44:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14283; Thu, 7 Mar 96 16:44:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08613; Thu, 7 Mar 96 16:38:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08607; Thu, 7 Mar 96 16:38:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tuqC3-00038FC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 16:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ask@cyberzone.com.au (Geoff) Subject: /\ PC Pine for Windows - Source Code ? Where ?? Date: 5 Mar 1996 02:32:44 GMT Message-Id: Hi I've emailed the university and gotten no response. I want to do the Windows GUI and put it in the public domain; but I would like the source to work from. Can someone suggest where/how to get this ? To join in as a participating developer ? Geoff (ask@cyberzone.com.au) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 16:54:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14766; Thu, 7 Mar 96 16:54:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18847; Thu, 7 Mar 96 16:48:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18841; Thu, 7 Mar 96 16:48:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tuqIt-00038FC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 16:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sohel Subject: Help with pine. Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 02:26:44 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I am facing a little problem viewing "comments" from my homepages. I can see the comments by using elm mailer but when i use pine(3.90) i get the following after the heading: [Part 1, application/X-WWW-FORM-URLENCODED 82 BYTES] [Cannot display this part, Use the "V" command to save in a file] So i followed the instruction and typed in the 'V' command and wrote it in a file and tried to view it without any luck. My question is: 1.Why can't i view the "comments" mailed from my html "comments" page using pine? 2.In order to make pine view "comments" that comes from my html pages, what configuration i have to do to pine and how? 3. How can i view the same mail using elm but not pine? If anybody can shed some light on this matter, and can possibly enlighten me on this matter i would be most obliged and greatful. If the answer exists in the web or on some ftp site, please provide me with such address. Please accept my sincere thanks in advance on this matter. Thank you. *************************************|***************************************** Mohammad K islam (sohel) | E-mail:sohel@southwind.net 1434 N fairmount st #1 | sohel@dtc.net Wichita, KS 67208 | Home:(316)-683-9660 | web:http://www.southwind.net/~sohel/ | | ***************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 17:13:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16420; Thu, 7 Mar 96 17:13:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09100; Thu, 7 Mar 96 16:58:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09094; Thu, 7 Mar 96 16:58:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tuqUb-00038FC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 16:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Zawacki Subject: alternate too kill file? Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 09:32:48 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Since pine does not support the use of a killfile, I've been marking messages with specific words in their subject, deleting the marked messages, and then excluding the deleted messages. My question: How can I record the key sequences so that I don't have to repeat them everytime I enter a newsgroup. I want to just press one key (i.e. Macro) and delete all the pertaining files? Thanks for you help, Michael Zawacki =============================================================================== | SDRC | Penn State | | email: mike.zawacki@sdrc.com | email: mjz115@hbc.psu.edu | | phone: (513)576-7602 | phone: (814)238-1594 | =============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 17:15:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16477; Thu, 7 Mar 96 17:15:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19176; Thu, 7 Mar 96 17:03:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19170; Thu, 7 Mar 96 17:03:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tuqXS-00038FC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 17:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tony Calguire Subject: Re: Newsgroup Order Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 02:43:55 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Rasheed Baqai wrote: > On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Seth Rogovoy wrote: > > > I would like to change the order in which the newsgroups appear when I > > first open my newsgroup folder. > > > > How do I do this? > > Press $ > No, that's how you change the order of MESSAGES within newsgroups, not the order of the newsgroups on the folder list screen. As far as I know, you can't change the order in which the newsgroups are presented in the folder list. Does anyone else know if this can be done? I'd also like to know if it's possible to change the name of a newsgroup as it appears on my folder list. __ _____________ /_____ _____/ Tony Calguire _____/_/____ / __________/ calguire@freenet.msp.mn.us ( (__/ /____ \__/ /____/ / / /_/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 17:40:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17176; Thu, 7 Mar 96 17:40:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10075; Thu, 7 Mar 96 17:33:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10069; Thu, 7 Mar 96 17:33:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tur2B-00038TC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 17:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Help! - locked mailboxes Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 11:08:23 -0800 Message-Id: References: <313B9FCD.72DA@libby.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <313B9FCD.72DA@libby.org> Was the protection of /tmp changed recently? It should be protected 1777. A global readonly suggests that either /tmp is inaccessible, or (SVR4 systems) that the statd/lockd daemons collapsed. Since you say NFS isn't involved, I would tend to suspect /tmp since statd/lockd are NFS critters. On Mon, 4 Mar 1996, Tony Pajas wrote: > I'm using Pine 3.91 on Solaris 2.5. For some reason, *all* of my users > inboxes (500 of them) are suddenly being flagged as locked/read-only > when accessed by Pine. Users are unable to delete messages. Access by > Eudora is normal with users able to remove mail from their inboxes. > Inspection of the /var/mail dir -> all appears normal. This is a local > dir, not a NFS. > > What's happening here? > > Thanks, tony pajas > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 17:53:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17622; Thu, 7 Mar 96 17:53:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10351; Thu, 7 Mar 96 17:48:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10345; Thu, 7 Mar 96 17:48:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0turGG-00038TC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 17:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bill Jenuwine Subject: Spell checking with pine Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:08:39 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When composing a message the help screen indicates that: "Pine can call an external spell checking program to look over the message you are composing. By default, Pine uses the simple Unix spell checker." So if by default, Pine uses the simple Unix spell checker, how can I change this default AND/OR specify my own alternate dictionary for words not found in the main dictionary list. I can see nothing in SETUP CONFIG that tells how to do this or how to specify a non-default spell checker. I hope I wouldn't have to do this via compile time switches. I am using Pine V3.91 =========================+============================ Bill Jenuwine | Internet: wjenuwin@ford.com Ford Motor Company | =========================+============================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 17:53:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17662; Thu, 7 Mar 96 17:53:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10359; Thu, 7 Mar 96 17:48:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10353; Thu, 7 Mar 96 17:48:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0turGH-00038VC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 17:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Killfiles Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 11:04:07 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Simon Stuart wrote: > Sorry if this is a stupid question...but is there any way to set up a > PINE killfile? No. In its current version (3.91), Pine merely acts to let you read mail that has already been delivered. You need a utility which will act on (e.g., kill) incoming mail before Pine gets hold of it. On Unix systems, two common such programs for filtering mail are procmail and filter. You can get information on (Unix) mail filtering from Nancy McGough's Web pages, which you can get to from my home page. (You have to thread your way several levels deep.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 17:54:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17679; Thu, 7 Mar 96 17:54:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20285; Thu, 7 Mar 96 17:48:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20279; Thu, 7 Mar 96 17:48:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0turGH-00038UC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 17:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: R R Neuswanger Subject: re: Attribution and Multiple .sigs Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 10:32:13 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII As to the multiple .sigs, it's easy. Suspend (or get out of) pine to your unix shell. Command pico sig.xyz (this'll turn out more convenient that xyz.sig, which scatters things all over the alphabet), and write a .sig, using the cues at the bottom of the screen. When you've stored it, command pico sig.xyz again (to save rekeying) and modify it; this time, when it offers sig.xyz as the file to store to, overwrite and create sig.qkj; and so on. Back in pine, use whatever you want as your default .sig in the setup/configure memo -- such as, at the moment: R.R. "Beartooth" Neuswanger Death is not evil. rrne@loc.gov Suffering is evil. I speak for me. Only. Then, when you want a different one, delete the default, and at the bottom of your message, hit control-R, and fill in sig.qkj or whatever. Some examples: R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Death is not evil. rrne@loc.gov Suffering is evil. I speak for me. Only. R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP) Help keep nature in balance: Library of Congress buy a neo-redneck some ammo! Washington, DC 20540-4120 rrne@loc.gov I speak for me.Only. R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP) Promote your health Library of Congress Eat wild meat Washington, DC 20540-4120 Befriend a hunter rrne@loc.gov I speak for me.Only. PS: all this has taken me about a minute and a half. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 17:55:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17749; Thu, 7 Mar 96 17:55:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20277; Thu, 7 Mar 96 17:48:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20271; Thu, 7 Mar 96 17:48:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0turGF-00038FC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 17:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Victor de Sousa Cardoso Subject: PC Pine for Windows StandAlone... Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 15:43:50 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all! I'd like to know if it's possible to use PC Pine for Windows not beeing connected to the Internet. I use Pine at the University and due to large amount of mail received I'd like to take the mail folders home and read them there. The problem is that after intalation PS Pine refuses to open any folder 'cos it doesn't find the connection to a net server... It creates a "mail" folder on the root disk, but doesn't read anything I put there. I've tried to configure it but acheived no success in all the attempts made. Thanks in advcance. ---- /\ /\ | | | | \/ \/ ******-------------------------------------------------****** ****** It's better to light a candle then curse the ****** ****** darkness! ****** ******-------------------------------------------------****** ****** Victor de Sousa Cardoso ****** ****** demegi1@crazy.fe.up.pt ****** ******-------------------------------------------------****** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 19:42:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20119; Thu, 7 Mar 96 19:42:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12062; Thu, 7 Mar 96 19:38:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from zoom.realtime.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12056; Thu, 7 Mar 96 19:38:18 -0800 Received: from rul08 ([204.134.66.8]) by zoom.bga.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id VAA23070 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 21:38:13 -0600 Message-Id: <199603080338.VAA23070@zoom.bga.com> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 20:37:15 -0800 From: Chuck McCullough X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Changing default "From" line ? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Is there a way to change the Pine configuration to use a different return e-mail address "username" (i.e.,username@domain...)?? This is needed when an alias e-mail domain is used. Thanks! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 19:44:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20184; Thu, 7 Mar 96 19:44:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21946; Thu, 7 Mar 96 19:38:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21940; Thu, 7 Mar 96 19:38:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tut03-00038FC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 19:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jojo@dstc.qut.edu.au (Jojo Mundackal) Subject: "To:" field question Date: 5 Mar 1996 05:37:16 GMT Message-Id: <4hgjuc$tk3@azure.dstc.edu.au> Hi everybody, Is it possible to pass the "To:" address field to the alternate editor. If possible, could you please tell me how. Thanks very much. Jojo -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Jojo George Mundackal Postgraduate student _--_|\ DSTC, Level 12, ITE Building, / DSTC QUT, Brisbane, Australia \_.--._/ Res: 61 7 3870 1636 V Work: 61 7 3864 5135 Email: jojo@dstc.qut.edu.au --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 22:21:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23687; Thu, 7 Mar 96 22:21:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14250; Thu, 7 Mar 96 22:14:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14242; Thu, 7 Mar 96 22:14:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tuvQu-00038TC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 22:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mraaum@uio.no (Margrete Raaum) Subject: Re: Faq? Date: 26 Feb 1996 15:42:22 GMT Message-Id: <4gskcu$nu8@ratatosk.uio.no> References: In-Reply-To: In article , John Margaritsanakis wrote: > Just the FAQs, mum :) http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/faq/index.html Margrete From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 23:47:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25229; Thu, 7 Mar 96 23:47:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25284; Thu, 7 Mar 96 23:44:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25278; Thu, 7 Mar 96 23:44:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tuwoC-00038FC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 23:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ytl01@wumpus.its.uow.edu.au (Yi Tao Lei) Subject: how to send an enclosure in unix shell?? Date: 5 Mar 1996 17:01:34 +1100 Message-Id: <4hglbu$elj@wumpus.its.uow.edu.au> Hi all, Can anyone tell me how to send an e-mail on unix shell with enclosure for example, i have a file called fred, i know if i send it in normal way is l! mail ytl01@uow.edu.au < fred but if i want to send fred as enclosure, how to do that??? Thanks in advance, Yitao ytl01@uow.edu.au yitao2bbb.com.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 7 23:53:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25312; Thu, 7 Mar 96 23:53:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15569; Thu, 7 Mar 96 23:49:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15563; Thu, 7 Mar 96 23:49:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tuwuy-00038TC; Thu, 7 Mar 96 23:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sbercovich@iss101.b400.cbe.ab.ca (Shel Bercovich) Subject: PINE Sent-mail listings Message-Id: <1996Mar7.093829@iss101.b400.cbe.ab.ca> Date: 7 Mar 96 09:38:29 -0600 Hi all, Didn't get an answer to this question in an earlier post, so will try it again: How does one change the To: identification in PINE's sent-mail folder. Right now, PINE displays my email address in the listings. I want it to display the e-mail addresses of the addressees. There is obviously something in the .pinerec or in the setup but can't seem to identify the correct item to change. Please help! :-) -- \/ Shel Bercovich sbercovich@cbe.ab.ca /\ Join the Trail Riders of the Canadian Rockies (Non-Profit) / \ "Come Ride with Us in Banff National Park" / /\ \ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 8 03:35:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29491; Fri, 8 Mar 96 03:35:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27877; Fri, 8 Mar 96 03:24:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27871; Fri, 8 Mar 96 03:24:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tv0Eg-00038FC; Fri, 8 Mar 96 03:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stacey@yantra.anyware-fast.com (Stacey Campbell) Subject: Pine 3.91 on SCO ODT 3.0 talking to QUALCOMM Pop server? Date: 7 Mar 1996 16:21:52 -0800 Message-Id: <4hnuj0$4ma@yantra.anyware-fast.com> Things almost work with this combination except messages seem to get munged if there's more than about 3 messages in the server mailbox. mtest returns broken message bodies. The QUALCOMM server string is; QUALCOMM Pop server derived from UCB (version 2.1.4-R3) at [my isp] starting. I'm not sure what brand of Unix my ISP is running. My current workaround is to slurp over the mailbox with popclient, then read and send email locally with pine. But it would be nice to have all this done inside pine. Is anyone else out there successfully running this combo? -- Stacey Campbell stacey@anyware-fast.com http://www.anyware-fast.com/stacey/ Have stuff identified at http://www.anyware-fast.com/stacey/animal.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 8 04:32:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01321; Fri, 8 Mar 96 04:32:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18880; Fri, 8 Mar 96 04:24:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18874; Fri, 8 Mar 96 04:24:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tv1BQ-00038TC; Fri, 8 Mar 96 04:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Neil Ambrose Subject: re Pine and POP3 - help Date: 8 Mar 1996 11:14:00 GMT Message-Id: <4hp4po$b6t@sun4.bham.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all, I have a problem, can you get Pine to read mail from a POP server????? I read some of the articles on the newsgroup and there was an implication that you could, so i went to browse the faq documents, to read that you can't. I am confused! What i want to do is run Pine on my unix account but to get my mail from my Novell account, so i don't have to quite exceed every time i want to check my mail. It is possible to get mail from the Novell machine by POP as this is what i do when i dialup from home via PPP, using Pegasus mail. Any help on configuration, or pointers to useful docs would be gratefully accepted! Cheers Neil -- N.Ambrose@bham.ac.uk Department of Biomedical Science and Ethics The Medical School The University of Brimingham Edgbaston Birimingham B15 2TT 0121 414 5390 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 8 05:29:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02365; Fri, 8 Mar 96 05:29:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29338; Fri, 8 Mar 96 05:10:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29329; Fri, 8 Mar 96 05:10:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tv1v2-00038UC; Fri, 8 Mar 96 05:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Margaritsanakis Subject: Question. Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 12:04:36 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any way to have Pine run a program/scipt/whatever every time a new e-mail is to be composed? /-------------------------------------\ /-------------------------------------\ |PGP: 490A7B8678843A8B01388E4DF0E6B652 | "And when we meet again my hand | |PGP Key on WWW and Key Servers. | shall hold a Silmaril from the Iron | | John Margaritsanakis | Crown; for you have not looked the | | Department of Computer Science | last upon Beren son of Barahir." | | Essex University, UK. | The Silmarillion | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Check out http://cswww2.essex.ac.uk/users/imarga/ | \-------------------------------------/ \-------------------------------------/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 8 09:21:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09046; Fri, 8 Mar 96 09:21:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23646; Fri, 8 Mar 96 09:10:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23632; Fri, 8 Mar 96 09:10:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tv5cK-00038FC; Fri, 8 Mar 96 09:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 on SCO ODT 3.0 talking to QUALCOMM Pop server? Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 22:26:06 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4hnuj0$4ma@yantra.anyware-fast.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4hnuj0$4ma@yantra.anyware-fast.com> This is a known bug in Pine 3.91's POP code, and is fixed in the forthcoming Pine 3.92 release. We recommend the usage of IMAP instead of POP. On 7 Mar 1996, Stacey Campbell wrote: > Things almost work with this combination except messages seem to get > munged if there's more than about 3 messages in the server mailbox. > mtest returns broken message bodies. > > The QUALCOMM server string is; > > QUALCOMM Pop server derived from UCB (version 2.1.4-R3) at [my isp] starting. > > I'm not sure what brand of Unix my ISP is running. > > My current workaround is to slurp over the mailbox with popclient, then > read and send email locally with pine. But it would be nice to have all > this done inside pine. > > Is anyone else out there successfully running this combo? > -- > Stacey Campbell stacey@anyware-fast.com http://www.anyware-fast.com/stacey/ > Have stuff identified at http://www.anyware-fast.com/stacey/animal.html > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 8 10:37:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12564; Fri, 8 Mar 96 10:37:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25607; Fri, 8 Mar 96 10:25:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25601; Fri, 8 Mar 96 10:25:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tv6qc-00038TC; Fri, 8 Mar 96 10:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) Subject: Re: I can't use the arrows key Date: 28 Feb 1996 22:20:59 GMT Message-Id: <4h2kgb$gp1@fcnews.fc.hp.com> References: <9602260909.ZM9976@indy-les.iimtemix.unam.mx> : I am using Pine on HPUX8.05, but my problem is that I can't use the arrows : key to move in any menu. Is there something wrong in the configuration? I've never been able to use the arrows in PINE unless I was calling in via a PC to my workstation. (BTW, I'm using HP-UX 9.07 and 10.10). -David -- + DAVID MULLANEY Mailstop #99, Loctn. 1UN5 (970) 229-7629 + + > Net: mullaney@fc.hp.com http://hpfcdn/ -*- fax 2838 + + > Software Engineer -- Ignition/UDL/OSSD /\/\/\ + + > Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, Colorado _-/\^^/ \ + From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 8 11:29:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14915; Fri, 8 Mar 96 11:29:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07006; Fri, 8 Mar 96 11:21:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rohan.sdsu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06994; Fri, 8 Mar 96 11:21:15 -0800 Received: (from browna@localhost) by rohan.sdsu.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) id LAA29859; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 11:21:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 11:21:04 -0800 (PST) From: brown Subject: delayed mail (fwd) To: pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am wondering if it is posible to put a message on a delayed sned. For example type a message now and then have the system send it out tomarow automaticly. If there this is posible please send me instructions on how to do this. If not this might be somthing to add to the next up grade. Thankyou for your Time; Arthur A. B. Brown From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 8 12:37:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18326; Fri, 8 Mar 96 12:37:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08947; Fri, 8 Mar 96 12:30:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08941; Fri, 8 Mar 96 12:30:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tv8kj-00038FC; Fri, 8 Mar 96 12:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yousufi@ucsub.Colorado.EDU (Umair Yousufi) Subject: Cutting and Pasting w/ Pico? Date: 5 Mar 1996 07:07:44 GMT Message-Id: <4hgp80$blo@peabody.colorado.edu> I was wondering if anybody knows if it is possible to cut text out of pico and insert the cut text in a new file. I know the round-about way to do this is to remove all the text you *don't* want, and then save the rest to a file, but this is sort of time consuming. I checked the faq at the washington web site, and they make only a passing reference to pasting (cutting addresses from the Pine address book), and they make no mention of using Pico in this context. (I've also asked the local help desk about twenty times ;). What I really need to know is if it is possible or not. If it's not possible, I'll stop banging my head looking for a way ;). I have a Unix account (System V, Rel 4), but I'm sort of (very) new to Unix. In the process of trying to figure out how to do this, I learned kooky (to me-I was a Dos user ;) Unix commands like bg, fg, ps and the like. I have tried the following (both of which don't work): -Having two sessions of my account up, running a pico in each, cutting the text in one and pasting in the other. -Running one pico (with -z), cutting, suspending, opening another pico, and pasting. Perhaps my trying the previous methods shows my Unix ignorance, but like I said, I'm new to Unix. Anyway, if this isn't possible, is there any chance it would be included in a future version (the 'new feature' list made no mention of this...)? Thanks in advance for any help.... -- Umair Yousufi From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 8 13:13:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20229; Fri, 8 Mar 96 13:13:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29902; Fri, 8 Mar 96 13:00:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29896; Fri, 8 Mar 96 13:00:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tv9Di-00038FC; Fri, 8 Mar 96 12:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Vartan Ghazarian Subject: Re: How to make a .plan file visible for other??? Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 13:42:33 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4hpeo6$al0@dole.uninett.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4hpeo6$al0@dole.uninett.no> I would appreciate if i get an answer for this also.. ****************************************************************************** **VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaR ** ****************************************************************************** ** My Home Page! ** ** http://www-home.calumet.yorku.ca/vghazari/www/home.htm ** ** ** ** Vartan Ghazarian Emails: Yu117540@Yorku.Ca ** ** Toronto, Canada VGhazari@calumet.yorku.ca ** ** Azadoutyoun Gam Mah!! Vartan@foxbat.cs.com ** ** __ __ ___ _____ ________ ___ __ __ ** ** | | | | / _ \ | _ \ |__ __| / _ \ | \ | | ** ** | | | | | |_| | | |_) ) | | | |_| | | | | ** ** \ \_/ / | _ | | _ < | | | _ | | |\ | ** ** \___/ |__| |__| |__| \__\ |__| |__| |__| |__| \__| ** ** ** ** _ __ _ ** ** | |_ | | | |_ ** ** | _ _ | | | _ |- | ** ** |__| |_|_| | | | | |_|_| |_| | | |_|_| |_| |_|_| | | |_| |_|_| |_| ** ** | | |~ | | | ** ** |__ | | |__ |_ | ** ** ** ****************************************************************************** **VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaR** ****************************************************************************** On 8 Mar 1996, jmeling wrote: > Date: 8 MAR 1996 14:03:50 GMT > From: jmeling > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: How to make a .plan file visible for other??? > > I have made a nice .plan file, but Im the only one who can actually see > it by using "finger address". > I have recieved some advices: > > chmod 705 .plan > or chmod og+rx .plan > > But, nobody of these commands made my .plan file visible for others. > Need new advices! > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 8 14:31:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24027; Fri, 8 Mar 96 14:31:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12351; Fri, 8 Mar 96 14:21:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cloudburst.seas.ucla.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12339; Fri, 8 Mar 96 14:21:19 -0800 Received: by cloudburst.seas.ucla.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03(UCLA 2.05)noloc) id AA55409; Fri, 8 Mar 1996 14:21:11 -0800 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 14:21:10 -0800 (PST) From: "Nima Badiey " To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 14:17:59 -0800 (PST) From: "Nima Badiey " To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine - automatic footers. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear sirs.... how can you have pine attach an automatic footer (like my name and mailing address) at the bottom of every e-mail I compose. There exists no literature on pine here at UCLA, so it's all trial and error. I would very much apprecite some help. Thank you. Nima Badiey email: NIMA @ SEAS.UCLA.EDU University of California at Los Angeles From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 8 16:11:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27878; Fri, 8 Mar 96 16:11:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15401; Fri, 8 Mar 96 16:06:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15395; Fri, 8 Mar 96 16:06:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tvC8G-00038FC; Fri, 8 Mar 96 16:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: g053200@spdsjw.gteds.gtenet.com (Stephen J. Weihman) Subject: Re: Question. Date: 6 Mar 1996 22:07:31 GMT Message-Id: <4hl2b3$bjl@ceylon.gte.com> References: In article , John Margaritsanakis writes: > Is there any way to have Pine run a program/scipt/whatever every >time a new e-mail is to be composed? Not sure if the will work how you want it to, but try the following: In Setup/Config, make sure that enable-alternate-editor-implicitly is set, and that editor is set to the script that contains the command you want to execute, as well as your editor command, such as: editor = news.edit where news.edit is an executable script such as the following: fortune>>$1 your-editor $1 - ------------------------------------------------------- -- Stephen J. Weihman -*- GTE Data Services -- ------------------------------------------------------- -- The opinions expressed herein are entirely my -- -- own, and are not necessarily those of GTE. -- ------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 8 16:20:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28310; Fri, 8 Mar 96 16:20:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05643; Fri, 8 Mar 96 16:16:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05637; Fri, 8 Mar 96 16:16:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tvCIP-00038TC; Fri, 8 Mar 96 16:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fields@Glue.umd.edu (Michael B. Fields) Subject: Printing to attached HP 4L? Date: 7 Mar 1996 03:31:04 GMT Message-Id: <4hll9o$65g@mojo.eng.umd.edu> I have been trying to print using Procomm Plus 2.1 for Windows to an attached Hewlett Packard LaserJet 4L printer. Unfortunately pine and this printer don't seem to want to peacefully coexist. When I send the exact same print job to a network printer the HP 5L however, it prints out flawlessly. Both printers have correctly installed print drivers, and I am not changing any of the Procomm settings *except* for the printer choice in the print setup box. I would greatly appreciate any suggestions! Please send your replies via *e-mail* to: fields@glue.umd.edu Thanks in advance, -- Mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 8 20:46:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04905; Fri, 8 Mar 96 20:46:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20063; Fri, 8 Mar 96 20:41:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20057; Fri, 8 Mar 96 20:41:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tvGSX-00038FC; Fri, 8 Mar 96 20:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eddyv@imec.be (Eddy Verbeemen) Subject: SOLUTION: compiling pine on solaris 2.4 Message-Id: <1996Mar8.164238.20288@imec.be> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 16:42:38 GMT I had quite some problems compiling pine 3.91 on solaris 2.4 I am/was not the only one since I have seen quite some postings about the same problem, but I never saw any answer. Apparently the solaris support in the makefiles works only on solaris 2.2 (also the pre-compiled binaries on ftp.cac.washington.edu are solaris 2.2) I tried all sorts of combinations (cc5.sol, gcc, ..) but all to no avail: imap, mtest and pico compiled -- be it with a lot of warnings -- but pine simply wouldn't. Carefull examination of the compiler error showed that the problem was not in the pine code, but in the the include files stdio.h, stdlib.h and unistd.h : redefinition of functions (eg getopt). Examining those files showed that if __STDC__ was defined, the functions were defined twice if some other compile conditions were met. Reading the man page for cc showed the magic cc option: -Xs The solution: modify makefile.sol in both the pico and pine directories - define LDCC as cc (forget about using cc5.sol) : LDCC= cc - add -Xs to CFLAGS I bet that someone who is used to compile stuff on solaris 2.4 could have solved this problem in a fraction of the time I needed. But since I did not find any answer in this or other newsgroups ... Happy compiling. Eddy -- Eddy Verbeemen (UNIX System Administrator) Interuniversitair Micro Electronica Centrum IMEC Kapeldreef 75 phone: +32 (0)16 281602 B 3001 Heverlee Belgium email: eddyv@imec.be From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 8 21:15:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05395; Fri, 8 Mar 96 21:15:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10574; Fri, 8 Mar 96 21:11:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10568; Fri, 8 Mar 96 21:11:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tvGtG-00038FC; Fri, 8 Mar 96 21:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kholen@destiny.esd105.wednet.edu Subject: Re: A way to print a whole long message? Date: 9 Mar 1996 02:55:19 GMT Message-Id: References: In article , Ray McAllister wrote: > I am unable to prYnt using any of the three options in the Setup menu. I > can, however print by highlighting the required text. This works well for > short messages but if the message is more than a page long it will only > highlight a single page at a time. This means two, three,four pages for a > message. Is there a way to highlight a whole two or three page long > message and then click "Copy to Printer"? TRhanks a lot! > I had that problem when I first started using Pine! Try paging to the end of the document with your space bar and then highlighting from the bottom up. It sounds crazy but it works for my configuration. Karen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 8 21:46:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05805; Fri, 8 Mar 96 21:46:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20833; Fri, 8 Mar 96 21:42:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20827; Fri, 8 Mar 96 21:42:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tvHMt-00038FC; Fri, 8 Mar 96 21:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tony Pajas Subject: Help! - locked mailboxes Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 17:58:37 -0800 Message-Id: <313B9FCD.72DA@libby.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm using Pine 3.91 on Solaris 2.5. For some reason, *all* of my users inboxes (500 of them) are suddenly being flagged as locked/read-only when accessed by Pine. Users are unable to delete messages. Access by Eudora is normal with users able to remove mail from their inboxes. Inspection of the /var/mail dir -> all appears normal. This is a local dir, not a NFS. What's happening here? Thanks, tony pajas From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 8 22:07:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06177; Fri, 8 Mar 96 22:07:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11277; Fri, 8 Mar 96 22:04:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11271; Fri, 8 Mar 96 22:04:00 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12889; Fri, 8 Mar 96 22:03:54 -0800 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 22:03:53 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: systhvu@cc5.kuleuven.ac.be Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Internet PC mail based on IMAP ? In-Reply-To: <4heqpg$1hi@chaos.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > As far as I understand the so called Internet PCs will have no hard disk > but you can use mail on them. Will they be IMAP based ? I can't make any generalizations (or announcements), but I've been told that some definitely will use IMAP. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 9 05:26:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14289; Sat, 9 Mar 96 05:26:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26245; Sat, 9 Mar 96 05:20:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from scls1.suffolk.lib.ny.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26239; Sat, 9 Mar 96 05:20:36 -0800 Received: (from hbookout@localhost) by scls1.suffolk.lib.ny.us (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA18097; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 07:57:20 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 07:57:19 -0500 (EST) From: Bookout To: Eddy Verbeemen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: SOLUTION: compiling pine on solaris 2.4 In-Reply-To: <1996Mar8.164238.20288@imec.be> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Eddy, I read your recent message on Pine configurations with a lot of interest. Would you please tell me how I can get the Pine Manual that shows configuration possibilities? My server uses UNIX _ SunOS Release 4.1.3_U1 SCLS #1_. Can you easily explain to a novice what all that means? Henry hbookout@suffolk.lib.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 9 17:42:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26520; Sat, 9 Mar 96 17:42:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25354; Sat, 9 Mar 96 17:39:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25348; Sat, 9 Mar 96 17:39:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tva2J-00038FC; Sat, 9 Mar 96 17:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ray@mercury.hiscom.nl (Ray Vermey) Subject: compiling (dutch) Pine in Linux Message-Id: Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 22:49:11 GMT Hi everybody, I am trying to compile Pine on Linux 1.2.13 ELF and get the following errors when linking Pine: init.o(.text+0x76cc): undefined reference to `rename_file' init.o(.text+0x76f9): undefined reference to `build_path' mailcap.o(.text+0x57): undefined reference to `build_path' mailcap.o(.text+0x4e8): undefined reference to `read_file' mailcmd.o(.text+0x64ae): undefined reference to `filter_filename' mailcmd.o(.text+0x651a): undefined reference to `fnexpand' mailcmd.o(.text+0x65fb): undefined reference to `build_path' mailcmd.o(.text+0x662a): undefined reference to `can_access' mailcmd.o(.text+0x67c8): undefined reference to `error_description' mailcmd.o(.text+0x6c1c): undefined reference to `error_description' mailcmd.o(.text+0x6c5f): undefined reference to `error_description' mailcmd.o(.text+0x79ca): undefined reference to `expand_foldername' mailcmd.o(.text+0x7fae): undefined reference to `expand_foldername' mailcmd.o(.text+0xa242): undefined reference to `open_system_pipe' mailcmd.o(.text+0xa415): undefined reference to `close_system_pipe' mailcmd.o(.text+0xa42c): undefined reference to `display_system_pipe_output' mailindx.o(.text+0xc91): undefined reference to `have_job_control' mailpart.o(.text+0xe71): undefined reference to `have_job_control' mailpart.o(.text+0x193c): undefined reference to `filter_filename' mailpart.o(.text+0x19aa): undefined reference to `fnexpand' mailpart.o(.text+0x1a8b): undefined reference to `build_path' mailpart.o(.text+0x1aea): undefined reference to `can_access' mailpart.o(.text+0x1c2b): undefined reference to `error_description' mailpart.o(.text+0x1e97): undefined reference to `mime_can_display' mailpart.o(.text+0x2023): undefined reference to `temp_nam' etc etc... Does anyone know what this means ???? When linking Pico I got this error: ar ru libpico.a attach.o ansi.o basic.o bind.o browse.o buffer.o composer.o display.o file.o fileio.o line.o osdep.o pico.o random.o region.o search.o spell.o tcap.o window.o word.o ar: libpico.a is not an archive make: *** [libpico.a] Error 1 There was an old libpico.a in the pico/ dir so I removed it and then Pico com- piled ok... It did mention however: bfd assertion fail /opt/release/pub/bin/binutils/bfd/elfcode.h:4716 bfd assertion fail /opt/release/pub/bin/binutils/bfd/elf32-i386.c:624 But in generated an executable.. Any help here would be very much appreciated! Thanx Ray From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 9 17:42:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26532; Sat, 9 Mar 96 17:42:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05345; Sat, 9 Mar 96 17:39:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05339; Sat, 9 Mar 96 17:39:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tva2J-00038TC; Sat, 9 Mar 96 17:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ray McAllister Subject: Re: . marking text does not work Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:12:17 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4gnl8i$dta@ns2.ryerson.ca> <4hkfm6$4gl@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4hkfm6$4gl@gap.cco.caltech.edu> I have found it possible to mark one page of text with the mouse, but if the message is two pages long one has to save it twice to copy to file or to printer! Maybe it will work for the original poster! Ray McAllister, Prof (Emeritus) Ocean Eng., FAU, Boca Raton, FL 33064 Diving Dinosaur, Geologist/Oceanographer/Ocean Engineer, 44 years SCUBA mcallist@gate.net (954) 426-0808, Author Diving Locations, Boynton/Dania From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 9 19:58:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28649; Sat, 9 Mar 96 19:58:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26950; Sat, 9 Mar 96 19:54:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26944; Sat, 9 Mar 96 19:54:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tvcCt-00038FC; Sat, 9 Mar 96 19:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Sheri G." Subject: Use filter to reply??? Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 21:25:03 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can I use filter to automatically reply to someone???? I would like to send people files if they put something like "send XYZ" in the subject or body.... I already use filter to sort my mail... I need to know if I can send the sender a reply without my having to do anything... Thanks for your help!!! Sheri Graber (roseleaf@prairie.lakes.com) Mankato, Minnesota USA * http://prairie.lakes.com/~roseleaf <-- A WWW Fibromyalgia Resource * ********************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 9 21:15:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29694; Sat, 9 Mar 96 21:15:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07734; Sat, 9 Mar 96 21:09:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07728; Sat, 9 Mar 96 21:09:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tvdML-00038FC; Sat, 9 Mar 96 21:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jtbell@presby.edu (Jon Bell) Subject: Re: Newsgroup Order Message-Id: Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 05:48:48 GMT References: Tony Calguire wrote: >On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > >> >> In Unix Pine, anyway, you can manually edit your .newsrc file (be >> careful!) in your home directory and put the active newsgroups in any >> order you want. I do this, and it works just fine. For instance, if I >> add a new group, it usually goes to the bottom of the heap, but if I >> want it somewhere else, I just rearrange .newsrc. (As I say, be very >> careful when editing this file -- it is a critical one.) > >Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, my system gurus won't let me touch >my .newsrc file. What do you mean, they won't let you touch your .newsrc file??? You have to have both read and write access to it so that pine can update it to keep track of which articles you've read. In principle, you should be able to edit your .newsrc file just like any other text file. However, it is *not* a good idea to use pico to do this, because .newsrc files tend to have long lines which must be kept intact (even if you do move them around), and pico likes to break long lines into shorter ones. So, unless you're familiar with vi or some other editor that doesn't mess with long lines, you'd best leave your .newsrc alone. -- Jon Bell Presbyterian College Dept. of Physics and Computer Science Clinton, South Carolina USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 9 23:23:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01301; Sat, 9 Mar 96 23:23:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29065; Sat, 9 Mar 96 23:20:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29059; Sat, 9 Mar 96 23:20:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tvfMT-00038FC; Sat, 9 Mar 96 23:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin Taylor Subject: MIME encoded problems Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 16:00:42 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have been receiving a few mime encoded (base 64) messages and pine doesn't interpret them correctly. Does someone know the way in which a mime encoded file needs to appear to be properly readable? I've also extracted the message into a file and tried to use munpack on it to decode it, but that still doesn't. If anyone can offer help in the way in which mime encodes, I'd appreciate it. Please e-mail me directly if you can help. Thanks in advance. Kevin Taylor ktaylor@midget.towson.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 10 00:02:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01971; Sun, 10 Mar 96 00:02:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09428; Sun, 10 Mar 96 00:00:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09422; Sun, 10 Mar 96 00:00:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tvg1F-00038FC; Sat, 9 Mar 96 23:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schumann@krypton.mankato.msus.edu (Paul L Schumann) Subject: Re: Spell checking with pine Date: 8 Mar 1996 00:16:14 GMT Message-Id: <4hnu8e$qut@nitrogen.mankato.msus.edu> References: Bill Jenuwine (wjenuwin@ed8200.ped.pto.ford.com) wrote: : So if by default, Pine uses the simple Unix spell checker, how can I : change this default AND/OR specify my own alternate dictionary for words : not found in the main dictionary list. Most Unix systems have a program called ispell, which is a good, interactive spell checker program that allows one to add words to a custom dictionary. The only "trick" is to get Pine to use ispell. Here's an easy way: go into the Pine configuration screen and turn on enable-alternate-editor-cmd. Then, after you have composed your message, hit CTRL+_ (that is, hold down the control key and hit the underline -- remember to get the underline you need to hold down the shift key, so you're actually holding down both the control key and the shift key). This will pop up the question "Which alternate editor?" Type ispell (and hit enter) and the ispell program will spell check your message, and allow you to make corrections and add words to your personal dictionary. By the way, this method also lets you use other editors besides pico for composing your e-mail. For example, I prefer to use the vi editor. So, when I compose a message, after I've filled in the header information, I hit CTRL+_, then type vi (and hit enter), compose my message in vi, exit vi using the usual vi command (:wq), hit CTRL+_ again, then type ispell to spell check it. Hope this helps. -- Paul L. Schumann, Ph.D. | E-Mail: schumann@krypton.mankato.msus.edu Professor of Management | Office Phone: (507) 389-5349 263 Morris Hall | Secretary's Phone: (507) 389-2966 Mankato State University | Messages: (507) 389-2966 Mankato, MN 56002-8400 | Fax Number: (507) 389-5497 http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~schumann/www/welcome.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 10 00:31:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02465; Sun, 10 Mar 96 00:31:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29893; Sun, 10 Mar 96 00:30:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29887; Sun, 10 Mar 96 00:30:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tvgUW-00038FC; Sun, 10 Mar 96 00:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@guava.epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Newsgroup Order Date: 8 Mar 1996 05:03:05 GMT Message-Id: <4hof29$45i@guava.epix.net> References: Paul O Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) wrote: : On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Tony Calguire wrote: : | On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Rasheed Baqai wrote: : | > On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Seth Rogovoy wrote: : | > > I would like to change the order in which the newsgroups appear : | > > when I first open my newsgroup folder. : | > > How do I do this? : | > Press $ : | No, that's how you change the order of MESSAGES within newsgroups, not : | the order of the newsgroups on the folder list screen. As far as I know, : | you can't change the order in which the newsgroups are presented in the : | folder list. Does anyone else know if this can be done? : In Unix Pine, anyway, you can manually edit your .newsrc file (be : careful!) in your home directory and put the active newsgroups in any : order you want. I do this, and it works just fine. For instance, if I : add a new group, it usually goes to the bottom of the heap, but if I : want it somewhere else, I just rearrange .newsrc. (As I say, be very : careful when editing this file -- it is a critical one.) Yup, you can rearrange your .newsrc file with a text editor as Paul sez, but also as he sez, be careful. A tip which I hope may be helpful ... I usually prefer to arrange them in alphabetical (actually alphanumeric) order, and there's a simple unix command to do this. As Paul sez, new groups go to the bottom of the heap. To put it all in alpha... order, type at a unix prompt: sort -o .newsrc .newsrc The -o is an 'ordered sort' in unix. Now again, be careful, and as George Bush said, "read my lips" ... From a unix prompt you type: s o r t space minus o space dot n e w s r c space dot n e w s r c enter If you want something other than alphabetic order, you can use an editor such as pico or vi. Hope this helps. BYE. /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/___/_email_dad@epix.net_|_____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 10 03:38:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05415; Sun, 10 Mar 96 03:38:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11726; Sun, 10 Mar 96 03:35:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11720; Sun, 10 Mar 96 03:35:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tvjNw-00038TC; Sun, 10 Mar 96 03:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@guava.epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Newsgroup Order Date: 9 Mar 1996 22:51:39 GMT Message-Id: <4ht21r$o0n@guava.epix.net> References: Tony Calguire (calguire@freenet.msp.mn.us) wrote: : On Thu, 7 Mar 1996, Jon Bell wrote: : > What do you mean, they won't let you touch your .newsrc file??? You have : > to have both read and write access to it so that pine can update it to : > keep track of which articles you've read. In principle, you should be : > able to edit your .newsrc file just like any other text file. : My system, the Twin Cities Freenet, places heavy restrictions on its : users. Just about everything in the first section of the Pine : configuration is fixed by the system administrators and can not be : changed. We use Pine for e-mail and news, and Lynx for web browsing. : There is no shell access, and file and directory editing are handled : through Lynx, using Pico. Lynx has been configured to deny access to all : "dot" files. Pine can access its configuration files, but I can't see : them, access them, or edit them. : /_____ _____/ Tony Calguire Hhmmmm ... I doubt if lynx (or pico) has benn configured to deny access to dot files. Try this: From lynx, go to pico, then ^R (control + r) to read in a file, then what yer probably doing is going ^T to get to a file list and you can't see the .files ?? Well yer not supposed to, that's to prevent an uniformed user from accidenatally deleting or editing a .dotfile. So instead of typing ^R then ^T, type ^R then .newsrc or whatever .filename you want to (^R)eadIn. Only a thought ... hope this helps. BYE. John (aka DearOldDad) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 10 10:09:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11277; Sun, 10 Mar 96 10:09:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06053; Sun, 10 Mar 96 10:06:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06047; Sun, 10 Mar 96 10:06:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tvpTp-00038FC; Sun, 10 Mar 96 10:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmuldoon@titan.oit.umass.edu (Jeannine Muldoon) Subject: Pine Questions Date: 8 Mar 1996 02:37:11 GMT Message-Id: <4ho6gr$n5k@nic.umass.edu> Hello, I have a couple questions about Pine. First, can I use PGP with Pine V3.91? And second, how can I read and post to newsgroups with Pine? Thanks in advance. -- Ryan Muldoon rmuldoon@anthro.umass.edu So much plaid, so little time From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 10 11:55:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12882; Sun, 10 Mar 96 11:55:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17163; Sun, 10 Mar 96 11:51:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17157; Sun, 10 Mar 96 11:51:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tvr8x-00038FC; Sun, 10 Mar 96 11:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ray McAllister Subject: A way to print a whole long message? Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:22:33 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am unable to prYnt using any of the three options in the Setup menu. I can, however print by highlighting the required text. This works well for short messages but if the message is more than a page long it will only highlight a single page at a time. This means two, three,four pages for a message. Is there a way to highlight a whole two or three page long message and then click "Copy to Printer"? TRhanks a lot! Ray McAllister, Prof (Emeritus) Ocean Eng., FAU, Boca Raton, FL 33064 Diving Dinosaur, Geologist/Oceanographer/Ocean Engineer, 44 years SCUBA mcallist@gate.net (954) 426-0808, Author Diving Locations, Boynton/Dania From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 10 13:20:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14393; Sun, 10 Mar 96 13:20:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18200; Sun, 10 Mar 96 13:16:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mach1.wlu.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18194; Sun, 10 Mar 96 13:16:28 -0800 Received: by mach1.wlu.ca (5.65/1.35) id AA19956; Sun, 10 Mar 96 16:15:09 -0500 Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 16:15:08 -0500 (EST) From: Neal Santin u Subject: To: pine info list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What is the address to unsubscribe to this list? I dont think its listproc@cac.... L8tr, Neal ---- Sant2240@mach1.wlu.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 10 13:59:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15109; Sun, 10 Mar 96 13:59:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08858; Sun, 10 Mar 96 13:54:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08852; Sun, 10 Mar 96 13:54:25 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01749; Sun, 10 Mar 96 13:54:19 -0800 Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 13:54:18 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Geoff Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: /\ PC Pine for Windows - Source Code ? Where ?? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Geoff, As I mentioned in my response to you a couple of months ago, the 3.92 source is not quite ready yet, and that's the version you want to look at since it already has quite a few GUI amenities. So stay tuned, it won't be much longer... (Also just fyi: Pine source code is not in the public domain; it is copyrighted by the University of Washington, and Pine is a registered trademark of UW.) -teg On 5 Mar 1996, Geoff wrote: > I've emailed the university and gotten no response. > > I want to do the Windows GUI and put it in the public domain; but I would > like the source to work from. > > Can someone suggest where/how to get this ? To join in as a participating > developer ? > > Geoff (ask@cyberzone.com.au) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 10 14:46:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15780; Sun, 10 Mar 96 14:46:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09392; Sun, 10 Mar 96 14:41:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09386; Sun, 10 Mar 96 14:41:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tvtjg-00038FC; Sun, 10 Mar 96 14:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) Subject: Re: I can't use the arrows key Date: 29 Feb 1996 16:09:30 GMT Message-Id: <4h4j3q$4hk@fcnews.fc.hp.com> References: <4h2kgb$gp1@fcnews.fc.hp.com> Vladimir Solnicky (vs@utia.cas.cz) wrote: : On 28 Feb 1996, David Mullaney wrote: : > a PC to my workstation. (BTW, I'm using HP-UX 9.07 and 10.10). : Use xterm instead of hpterm. Then the arrows will work. i am using HP-UX : 9.05 and last year I used 8.0x--it works in both.=20 That works great! It also resolves the problem of bad highlighting in the Index. Thanks, Vladimir! -- + DAVID MULLANEY Mailstop #99, Loctn. 1UN5 (970) 229-7629 + + > Net: mullaney@fc.hp.com http://hpfcdn/ -*- fax 2838 + + > Software Engineer -- Ignition/UDL/OSSD /\/\/\ + + > Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, Colorado _-/\^^/ \ + From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 10 14:51:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15941; Sun, 10 Mar 96 14:51:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19230; Sun, 10 Mar 96 14:46:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19223; Sun, 10 Mar 96 14:46:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tvtoq-00038FC; Sun, 10 Mar 96 14:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Subject: Re: About the "Return-Receipt-To:" custom header Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4hr081$kam@crl14.crl.com> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 20:36:32 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <4hr081$kam@crl14.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 On 8 Mar 1996, Mark Tangard wrote: > Does it send the return receipt when the message ARRIVES at the > addressee's mailbox, or when it gets READ? "ARRIVES". Returning a receipt when an e-mail gets READ is considered by some people an intrusion of privacy. "Why do I have to tell you whehter I've read your e-mail?!!" ;-) Hope this helps. Eric ,-----------------------------------------------------------. | Eric Tse Just An Occasional Net-Surfer | | jyetse@uwaterloo.ca IRC / WebChat Nickname : NeonCity | `---- http://www.undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca/~jyetse/ ----' From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 10 16:36:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17377; Sun, 10 Mar 96 16:36:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20444; Sun, 10 Mar 96 16:33:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from postbox.anu.edu.au by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20438; Sun, 10 Mar 96 16:32:59 -0800 Received: from coombs.anu.edu.au by postbox.anu.edu.au with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA213664376; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 10:32:56 +1000 Received: from slbri1p19.ozemail.com.au by coombs.anu.edu.au (1.38.193.4) id AA13200; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 10:32:50 +1000 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 10:32:50 +1000 Message-Id: <9603110032.AA13200@coombs.anu.edu.au> X-Sender: glater@150.203.76.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Terry Gray From: ask@cyberzone.com.au (Cyberzone Inc) Subject: Re: /\ PC Pine for Windows - Source Code ? Where ?? Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Yes, I knew the latter; same deal with Eudora light. It is just that I am particularly good on GUI design and layout as well being a top-notch Windows developer, and I want to make PC Pine look super slick as well as adding in a loadable crypto module. I am a great believer in public ware and actively develop Linux (amongst other things). I have a break between a job right at the moment and want to tackle this while I am blessed with time. This is the sort of thing I want and like to do. Everything else is what I have to to do :-(. I write in C and 8086 asm, so you get clean, fast code as opposed to VB or some of the kludge out there... Is there someway you can fix me up with an experimental IMAP email account I can start pointing an IMAP client to in the meantime ? geoff@cac.washington.edu or similar perhaps ? Also, what is your phone number ? I am coming to the States and would like to catch up some time. Cheers, Geoff. At 1:54 PM 10/3/96 -0800, Terry Gray wrote: >Geoff, >As I mentioned in my response to you a couple of months ago, the 3.92 >source is not quite ready yet, and that's the version you want to look at >since it already has quite a few GUI amenities. So stay tuned, it >won't be much longer... > >(Also just fyi: Pine source code is not in the public domain; it is >copyrighted by the University of Washington, and Pine is a registered >trademark of UW.) > >-teg > >On 5 Mar 1996, Geoff wrote: > >> I've emailed the university and gotten no response. >> >> I want to do the Windows GUI and put it in the public domain; but I would >> like the source to work from. >> >> Can someone suggest where/how to get this ? To join in as a participating >> developer ? >> >> Geoff (ask@cyberzone.com.au) ___________________________________________________________ CyberZone Inc. Linux preferred ! Email: ask@cyberzone.com.au C:\ONGRATNS.W95! ___________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 10 20:00:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20459; Sun, 10 Mar 96 20:00:59 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13205; Sun, 10 Mar 96 19:57:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13199; Sun, 10 Mar 96 19:57:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tvyjZ-00038FC; Sun, 10 Mar 96 19:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pcp95mah@stoat.shef.ac.uk (M A Huffman) Subject: Invalidated folder Date: 9 Mar 1996 15:40:31 GMT Message-Id: <4hs8pf$86d@bignews.shef.ac.uk> In my new account on a machine running Pine 3.89 (Irix) I get the following error message whenever Pine is opened: "Folder format invalidated (consult expert), aborted" sent-mail can be opened, but not INBOX. Any help greatly appreciated Adam Huffman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 10 20:15:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20644; Sun, 10 Mar 96 20:15:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23217; Sun, 10 Mar 96 20:13:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23211; Sun, 10 Mar 96 20:13:19 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04985; Sun, 10 Mar 96 20:13:11 -0800 Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 20:13:11 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Cyberzone Inc Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: /\ PC Pine for Windows - Source Code ? Where ?? In-Reply-To: <9603110032.AA13200@coombs.anu.edu.au> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 11 Mar 1996, Cyberzone Inc wrote: > Is there someway you can fix me up with an experimental IMAP email account > I can start pointing an IMAP client to in the meantime ? I suggest starting with CMU's Cyrus test server. For details, see: http://andrew2.andrew.cmu.edu/cyrus/cyrustest.html -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 10 21:33:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21908; Sun, 10 Mar 96 21:33:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24024; Sun, 10 Mar 96 21:27:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24018; Sun, 10 Mar 96 21:27:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tw04q-00038FC; Sun, 10 Mar 96 21:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wchen02@larry.cc.emory.edu (Wang Chen) Subject: Mail can no enter the "INBOX" folder Date: 8 Mar 1996 12:28:07 -0500 Message-Id: <4hpqn7$jt4@larry.cc.emory.edu> Hi there I deleted about 30 lines in file /usr/mail/ by accidence. I can not recover it. The big problem for me is : the new mail can not enter to " INBOX". Can anybody tell me how i can make "INBOX" work. Most appreciate it. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 10 21:35:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21978; Sun, 10 Mar 96 21:35:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14382; Sun, 10 Mar 96 21:32:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14376; Sun, 10 Mar 96 21:32:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tw0CO-00038FC; Sun, 10 Mar 96 21:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pegboy@gti.net ( ) Subject: Re: When loging is it possible Date: 11 Mar 1996 04:12:06 GMT Message-Id: <4i096m$8id@gti.gti.net> References: Vartan Ghazarian (yu117540@picazuro.yorku.ca) wrote: : that it shows at the unix prompt how many email you have in your pine. : What i mean..lets say I log in to my account and it says %(shell Prompt) : before that it usually says.."You have mail or you have new mail" is : there a way it shows how many mail there is? Try these at your prompt: frm from messages : if anyone knows an answer I would appreciate it.. : THanks in advance. : ****************************************************************************** : **VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaR ** : ****************************************************************************** : ** My Home Page! ** : ** http://www-home.calumet.yorku.ca/vghazari/www/home.htm ** : ** ** : ** Vartan Ghazarian Emails: Yu117540@Yorku.Ca ** : ** Toronto, Canada vghazari@calumet.yorku.ca ** : ** __ __ ___ _____ ________ ___ __ __ ** : ** | | | | / _ \ | _ \ |__ __| / _ \ | \ | | ** : ** | | | | | |_| | | |_) ) | | | |_| | | | | ** : ** \ \_/ / | _ | | _ < | | | _ | | |\ | ** : ** \___/ |__| |__| |__| \__\ |__| |__| |__| |__| \__| ** : ** ** : ****************************************************************************** : **VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaRtAn vArTaN VaR** : ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 10 22:00:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22404; Sun, 10 Mar 96 22:00:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24443; Sun, 10 Mar 96 21:57:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24437; Sun, 10 Mar 96 21:57:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tw0ag-00038TC; Sun, 10 Mar 96 21:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lmcnutt@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Attachments Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 07:30:22 GMT Message-Id: <31428498.4012363@news> References: En 3 Mar 1996 07:47:07 -0800, jesten@acs.stritch.edu (Jim Esten) escribe: > >On Sat, 2 Mar 1996, Bookout wrote: > >> Hello & thanks in advance for your help, >> When I name the file I have uploaded into my personal directory as an >> attachment, a file I created in Microsoft Word and saved as a text file, >> I get a message and if I send the mail >> anyway, there is a brief notice that the file is not in my directory. >> >> I know that it is there, because when I open my personal file, it is >> named there and I can view it in its entirety. >> >> What can I do to attach these files? They are too long to copy & paste. > > >......if you are using "attachment", why bother to convert to text to >begin with. As long as it is "text", you can can use ^R to include it in >the body of the message. If you must use an attachment, be careful of >the filename - if you are typing it recall the case matters to UNIX. Try >using ^T and then selecting the attachment instead of typing the name. >My experience has been however, that attachment is best used only for >binary files, use the ^R include for text - also helps out thee receiver >if they are using an older mail handler. > >Jim > > >Jim Esten >(temporarily between .sigs) > If you are using a PC, you may find it easier to visit Forte.com and download their newsreader Freeagent, which is a free-ware program and it will send mail with any type of attachments flawlessly in chucks of what ever size you would like. lmcnutt From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 10 22:02:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22467; Sun, 10 Mar 96 22:02:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14731; Sun, 10 Mar 96 21:57:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14725; Sun, 10 Mar 96 21:57:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tw0Z4-00038FC; Sun, 10 Mar 96 21:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lmcnutt@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help re Talk Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 07:26:04 GMT Message-Id: <314282b7.3531250@news> References: <4gbl04$6fb@gail.ripco.com> En Sat, 2 Mar 1996 00:23:59 -0700, Caeltigern escribe: > On 20 Feb 1996, Uncle Bob wrote: > >> Gordon or Connie Marigold (marigold@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote: >> : Hello everyone, >> >> : I'm afraid this may be a stupid question, but ... While I was in >> : Pine, I got a message at the bottom of the screen asking for a Talk >> : session. I had not done this before and did not know what to do. I now >> : have instructions, but they say "from the unix prompt". Does this mean I >> : need to make a quick note of the person who wants to talk to me and then >> : quit pine and go into unix? Or what? >> >> : TIA >> >> : Connie (marigold@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu) >> >> Connie, >> >> If you want to engage in the "talk" session, you need to quit Pine and go >> to your shell prompt. Then, perform the "talk soandso@blah.blah.com" >> command to connect with the person calling you. Yes, jot down the address >> because you might forget it backing out. >> >> -- >> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >> >> Uncle Bob..............unclebob@ripco.com >> >> >> >Greetings; >This is the first time I have tried this - hope is works! I received a >"talk" message tonight and didn't know what do either. I think maybe I'm >getting the idea of how to respond. But, how do you initiate a talk >session? >All help will be gratefully accepted. >Thanks > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Kris Hunt > kralni@argo.unm.edu > >From the unix command line type "talk soandso@blahblahblah.com" and you will see a split screen with a message at the top saying "no connection yet", then "checking for invitation on caller's machine." If the person chooses to talk to you, their text will appear on the bottom half of the screen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 10 22:10:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22653; Sun, 10 Mar 96 22:10:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24519; Sun, 10 Mar 96 22:02:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24512; Sun, 10 Mar 96 22:02:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tw0ci-00038FC; Sun, 10 Mar 96 21:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kaallen@animal.cc.wwu.edu (kaallen) Subject: Re: Help re Talk Date: 11 Mar 96 04:06:36 GMT Message-Id: References: <4gbl04$6fb@gail.ripco.com> >You must use the "talk" command from the shell, whether initiating the >call or responding to it. That means exiting or suspending any other >functions you're in. Can anyone answer this question: I have a friend who's on a CMS-based system, and I'm on a Unix-based system, and our "talk" daemons won't communicate. Do you know what we can do to have realtime chats with some version of "talk"? I'd prefer "talk" to irc. I'd also appreciate an email reply since I don't get to read these newsgroups much. Thanks, Kate From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 10 22:12:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22689; Sun, 10 Mar 96 22:12:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14878; Sun, 10 Mar 96 22:07:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14872; Sun, 10 Mar 96 22:07:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tw0jf-00038TC; Sun, 10 Mar 96 22:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roywland@gramercy.ios.com (Roy Land) Subject: + + Direct Messages First??? Date: 8 Mar 1996 12:14:08 GMT Message-Id: <4hp8ag$5k@news2.ios.com> I'm wondering if it's possible to have those messages addressed to me directly as oppossed to list mail prioritized so as to be first on my index list when reading from my IN-BOX, I see nothing to that effect in the config area??? Thanks, <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> <> Roy W. Land | e-mail: roywland@gramercy.ios.com <> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 10 23:29:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24029; Sun, 10 Mar 96 23:29:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25466; Sun, 10 Mar 96 23:26:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gn.apc.org by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25460; Sun, 10 Mar 96 23:26:36 -0800 Received: by gn.apc.org (8.6.10/Revision: 2.02 ) id HAA21946; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 07:25:20 GMT Received: from iepala.iepala.es (miguel@iepala.iepala.es [194.179.63.2]) by iepala.iepala.es (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id RAA14932; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 17:59:06 +0100 Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 17:59:06 +0100 (MET) From: Miguel Morales X-Sender: miguel@iepala.iepala.es To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Joaquin Seoane Subject: Compiling PC-Pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello! We are traslating Pine and we have problems to recompile it for DOS because of the compiler we are using. Can anybody tell us which compiler we must use? We had tried: Borland C++ (until 4.0 version) and Microsoft C (until 7.0 version). We know that Visual C++ had problems with this code, too... Thanks for all. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 11 01:01:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25346; Mon, 11 Mar 96 01:01:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26419; Mon, 11 Mar 96 00:58:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26413; Mon, 11 Mar 96 00:58:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tw3Ph-00038FC; Mon, 11 Mar 96 00:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mp Subject: install pine in machten BSD 4.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <3143A621.730F@macpine.uhh.hawaii.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4h9s0g$god@nntp.dlsu.edu.ph> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 04:03:45 GMT I am from the university of hawaii-the learning center and I am trying to install pine in to my machten BSD 4.4 machine. I got the file from pine home page at university of washington. the file name is pine-bin.machten I also got pico and imapd but here is the PROBLEM I do not know how to uncompress these files IF any body can help me please????? Krister Martinez From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 11 01:52:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26630; Mon, 11 Mar 96 01:52:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17306; Mon, 11 Mar 96 01:48:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17300; Mon, 11 Mar 96 01:48:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tw48R-00038FC; Mon, 11 Mar 96 01:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mraaum@uio.no (Margrete Raaum) Subject: Re: Need help setting up newsgroups!! Date: 11 Mar 1996 09:39:04 GMT Message-Id: <4i0sbo$lo7@ratatosk.uio.no> References: <4hpehq$al0@dole.uninett.no> I artikkel <4hpehq$al0@dole.uninett.no>, jmeling tastet: >What shall i write in the setup menu to order newsgroups. >nntp-server= ? I dont know what to write here! Have you tried asking you local "help-desk"? nntp.hia.no >news-colletions=? Not here either! Try reading your pinerc-file, or trying the help-function. A simple way is: NEWS *{nntp.hia.no/nntp}[] but that way you do not separate the newsgroups at all, I leave the rest for you to find out. Mrg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 11 01:54:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26686; Mon, 11 Mar 96 01:54:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27101; Mon, 11 Mar 96 01:48:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27095; Mon, 11 Mar 96 01:48:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tw499-00038TC; Mon, 11 Mar 96 01:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: michielp@atf.cmg.nl (Michiel Perdeck) Subject: Pine + Pico sources wanted Message-Id: Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 06:29:56 GMT Where can I find source code for Pine and Pico? Thanks for tips, Michiel -- Michiel Perdeck (Michiel.Perdeck@cmg.nl) CMG Finance div. AT From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 11 05:00:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00522; Mon, 11 Mar 96 05:00:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19488; Mon, 11 Mar 96 04:47:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19476; Mon, 11 Mar 96 04:46:27 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 11 Mar 1996 12:22:54 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA25697; Mon, 11 Mar 1996 12:23:47 GMT Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 12:23:46 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Michiel Perdeck Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine + Pico sources wanted In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII By anonymous ftp from ftp.cac.washington.edu Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Michiel Perdeck wrote: > Where can I find source code for Pine and Pico? > > Thanks for tips, > Michiel > > -- > Michiel Perdeck (Michiel.Perdeck@cmg.nl) > CMG Finance div. AT > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 11 06:36:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02305; Mon, 11 Mar 96 06:36:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20720; Mon, 11 Mar 96 06:28:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20714; Mon, 11 Mar 96 06:28:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tw8aN-00038TC; Mon, 11 Mar 96 06:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmeling Subject: Re: Adding sender to address book Date: 11 Mar 1996 12:36:01 GMT Message-Id: <4i16nh$189@dole.uninett.no> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You could make a .signature file!!!! This is very easy to make simply go into telnet or simular mailprogram, then use Pico or emacs or a common texteditor and make a file. Save it as .signature, then go into pine setup and find a line signature file= ....fill in with .signature. Now this signature will be added in every letter you send!!!! You might have look into setup in Pine, to find a command that allows you to include the signature at the bottom of the letter From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 11 06:38:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02379; Mon, 11 Mar 96 06:38:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00617; Mon, 11 Mar 96 06:28:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00611; Mon, 11 Mar 96 06:28:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tw8aN-00038UC; Mon, 11 Mar 96 06:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roses@mail.eznet.net (roses) Subject: Re: How to make a .plan file visible for other??? Date: 11 Mar 1996 12:57:58 GMT Message-Id: <4i180m$ut5@news1.eznet.net> References: <4hpeo6$al0@dole.uninett.no> <4hq4bi$35a@clem.mscd.edu> Quartz (duboisy@clem.mscd.edu) wrote: : jmeling (jmeling@krs.hia.no) wrote: : : I have made a nice .plan file, but Im the only one who can actually see : : it by using "finger address". : : I have recieved some advices: : : : chmod 705 .plan : : or chmod og+rx .plan : : : But, nobody of these commands made my .plan file visible for others. : : Need new advices! : : : it sounds like your home directory is not +r ... you have to do chmod +r that should work. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 11 07:18:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03114; Mon, 11 Mar 96 07:18:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21351; Mon, 11 Mar 96 07:13:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21345; Mon, 11 Mar 96 07:13:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tw9De-00038FC; Mon, 11 Mar 96 07:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: flavell@v2.ph.gla.ac.uk (Alan J. Flavell) Subject: Re: Anyone use VMS Pine? Message-Id: References: <4gpu7c$qgp@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 12:21:34 GMT In article <4gpu7c$qgp@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, cmrokke@aol.com (Cmrokke) writes: > >I know there's VMS Pine out there -- Innosoft International sells it, and >someone gave me a WWW address where I can get the software myself -- but You may be confusing different implementations of PINE for VMS. One is a commercial product which you would purchase. AFAIK you don't get it on the net. The one that we use is a free version, by Yehavi Bourvine in Israel. It has some shortcomings, but it mostly does what we want. >we don't have WWW where I work. Well, then you're working with at least one hand tied behind your back. Lynx, at least, exists in a VMS version: get it and use it (look on comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc for an FAQ, ask there if you need further help). The only information I can offer you about Yehavi's VMS PINE is on a WWW page: http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7Eflavell/vms-pine.html The software is available for FTP (user "anonymous") at vms.huji.ac.il in directory LOCAL as PINE_3_*.ZIP (for appropriate value of "*"), you also need UNZIP.EXE in order to unwrap it. best regards --- Alan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 11 10:14:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09523; Mon, 11 Mar 96 10:14:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05078; Mon, 11 Mar 96 09:59:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05072; Mon, 11 Mar 96 09:59:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twBoS-00038FC; Mon, 11 Mar 96 09:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chuck McCullough Subject: Changing default "From" line ? Message-Id: <1996Mar8.033743.10479@oasis.enmu.edu> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 03:37:43 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Is there a way to change the Pine configuration to use a different return e-mail address "username" (i.e.,username@domain...)?? This is needed when an alias e-mail domain is used. Thanks! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 11 11:53:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13570; Mon, 11 Mar 96 11:53:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27923; Mon, 11 Mar 96 11:44:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27915; Mon, 11 Mar 96 11:44:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twDRm-00038FC; Mon, 11 Mar 96 11:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kbruland@beaker.cc.wwu.edu (kriston bruland) Subject: Pine 3.91 won't start w/NetBSD 1.1 Date: 9 Mar 96 01:06:58 GMT Message-Id: Hi Everyone, I have been running Pine 3.91 with NetBSD 1.0 for a while with no problems. Recently I upgraded to NetBSD 1.1, and pine stopped working. I recompiled it but this did not help. Pine won't even start. I get the error message "Can't access terminal or input is not a terminal. Redirection of standard input is not allowed. For example "Pine < file" doesn't work." Has anyone managed to fix this yet? After looking through the source, the error is probably somewhere in the Raw() function in ttyin.c, but I haven't had time to work on it. Thanks in advance, Kris Bruland kbruland@violet.chem.wwu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 11 13:45:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19145; Mon, 11 Mar 96 13:45:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00980; Mon, 11 Mar 96 13:34:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00974; Mon, 11 Mar 96 13:34:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twFAu-00038FC; Mon, 11 Mar 96 13:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Address file location? Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 08:51:36 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4hv662$j11@nntp.interaccess.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4hv662$j11@nntp.interaccess.com> On 10 Mar 1996, Richard E. Freeman wrote: > How do you back up the address file? I can't find its physical location > so as to copy it. These remarks apply *only* if you are running Unix Pine. Change to your home directory and enter ls -l .add* . Your should see a file called .addressbook and possibly one called .addressbook.lu , which is an index file to make the addressbook function more efficient. Because these file names begin with a period, you do not see them in an ordinaty listing. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 11 13:45:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19182; Mon, 11 Mar 96 13:45:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10871; Mon, 11 Mar 96 13:29:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10865; Mon, 11 Mar 96 13:29:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twF90-00038FC; Mon, 11 Mar 96 13:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: becker@sable.adelphi.edu (Don Becker) Subject: Pine v3.91 for OVMS 6.2/UCX 4.0 Date: 11 Mar 96 15:16:27 EST Message-Id: <1996Mar11.151627@sable.adelphi.edu> Recently I tried compiling PINE v3.91 for OpenVMS Alpha v6.2, running UCX v4.0. It compiled OK (a few warnings, but at the very least Pico runs flawlessly), but now I want it to read PINE.CONF. It says "No host name or domain name set", but the first thing I have defined in PINE.CONF is the host name. My PINE.CONF (preliminary): user-domain =bruin.adelphi.edu smtp-server=bruin.adelphi.edu image-viewer=xv inbox-path=NEWMAIL The README.VMS says it looks in UTIL$, but I have UTIL$ defined properly and it's pointing to the right directory, but no luck. --Don -- / Don Becker -- becker@sable.adelphi.edu | "Can't this wait till I'm old? \ | SABLE/OpenVMS System Administrator | Can't I live while I'm young?" | | Adelphi University, Garden City, NY | --Phish | \ Phone: (516)877-3341 Fax: (516)877-3545 | / / Don Becker -- becker@sable.adelphi.edu | "Can't this wait till I'm old? \ | SABLE/OpenVMS System Administrator | Can't I live while I'm young?" | | Adelphi University, Garden City, NY | --Phish | \ Phone: (516)877-3341 Fax: (516)877-3545 | / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 11 17:38:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28389; Mon, 11 Mar 96 17:38:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17413; Mon, 11 Mar 96 17:31:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vcc7.langara.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17401; Mon, 11 Mar 96 17:30:53 -0800 Received: by vcc7.langara.bc.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA15283; Sun, 10 Mar 1996 21:32:35 -0800 Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 21:32:34 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Chivas To: pine-questions Cc: Jim Chivas Subject: A few questions about pine 3.91 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings: I have recently installed your pine system on a new RS6000 AIX system. I have both a pine.conf and pine.conf.fixed file in /usr/local/lib. Whenever I run pine I get the usual message about moving my current sent-mail to one with the month added to it. No matter whether I say yes to save or no not to save, I keep getting the same question everytime I start a new pine session about saving and moving the sent-mail file. Can you tell me what I might be doing wrong or have an incorrect setup in either of my two above mentioned control files? 2. Also when I quit pine I get the message about some of my current options differ from the system ones. I assume this is only a warning but I don't think I should get it everytime I quit pine. Can you think of any reason for this? I have deleted my own .pinerc file and therefore pine should pick up a new copy from /usr/local/lib and therefore there should not be any differences. I have included my two files below. Thanks Jim # # pine.conf # # Updated by Pine(tm) 3.91, copyright 1989-1993 University of Washington. # # Pine configuration file -- customize as needed. # # This file sets the configuration options used by Pine and PC-Pine. If you # are using Pine on a Unix system, there may be a system-wide configuration # file which sets the defaults for these variables. There are comments in # this file to explain each variable, but if you have questions about # specific settings see the section on configuration options in the Pine # notes. On Unix, run pine -conf to see how system defaults have been set. # For variables that accept multiple values, list elements are separated # by commas. A line beginning with a space or tab is considered to be a # continuation of the previous line. For a variable to be unset its value # must be blank. To set a variable to the empty string its value should # be "". You can override system defaults by setting a variable to the # empty string. Switch variables are set to either "yes" or "no", and # default to "no". # Lines beginning with "#" are comments, and ignored by Pine. ########################### Essential Parameters ########################### # Over-rides your full name from Unix password file. Required for PC-Pine. personal-name= # Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail. user-domain=langara.bc.ca # List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail. smtp-server= # NNTP server for posting news. Also sets news-collections for news reading. nntp-server=news.langara.bc.ca # Path of (local or remote) INBOX, e.g. ={mail.somewhere.edu}inbox # Normal Unix default is the local INBOX (usually /usr/spool/mail/$USER). #inbox-path= ###################### Collections, Folders, and Files ##################### # List of incoming msg folders besides INBOX, e.g. ={host2}inbox, {host3}inbox # Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-host-name}folder-path #incoming-folders= # List of directories where saved-message folders may be. First one is # the default for Saves. Example: Main {host1}mail/[], Desktop mail\[] # Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-hostname}optnl-directory-path[] #folder-collections= # List, only needed if nntp-server not set, or news is on a different host # than used for NNTP posting. Examples: News *[] or News *{host3/nntp}[] # Syntax: optnl-label *{news-host/protocol}[] news-collections=News *{news.langara.bc.ca/nntp}[] # Over-rides default path for sent-mail folder, e.g. =old-mail (using first # folder collection dir) or ={host2}sent-mail or ="" (to suppress saving). # Default: sent-mail (Unix) or SENTMAIL.MTX (PC) in default folder collection. #default-fcc= # Over-rides default path for postponed messages folder, e.g. =pm (which uses # first folder collection dir) or ={host4}pm (using home dir on host4). # Default: postponed-mail (Unix) or POSTPONE.MTX (PC) in default fldr coltn. #postponed-folder= # If set, specifies where already-read messages will be moved upon quitting. #read-message-folder= # Over-rides default path for signature file. Default is ~/.signature #signature-file= # List of file or path names for global/shared addressbook(s). # Default: none # Syntax: optnl-label path-name #global-address-book= # List of file or path names for personal addressbook(s). # Default: ~/.addressbook (Unix) or \PINE\ADDRBOOK (PC) # Syntax: optnl-label path-name #address-book= # bugs addresses # bugs-nickname="Jim Chivas" # bugs-fullname="Jim Chivas" # bugs-address="jchivas@langara.bc.ca" ############################### Preferences ################################ # List of features; see Pine's Setup/options menu for the current set. # e.g. feature-list= select-without-confirm, signature-at-bottom # Default condition for all of the features is no-. feature-list=enable-tab-completion, enable-jump-shortcut, enable-zoom-cmd, enable-full-header-cmd, enable-suspend, enable-aggregate-command-set, enable-alternate-editor-cmd, no-enable-bounce-cmd, enable-flag-cmd, expanded-view-of-addressbooks, expanded-view-of-folders, disable-password-cmd, disable-update-cmd, news-approximates-new-status, no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs # Pine executes these keys upon startup (e.g. to view msg 13: i,j,1,3,CR,v) #initial-keystroke-list= # Only show these headers (by default) when composing messages #default-composer-hdrs= # Add these customized headers (and possible default values) when composing customized-hdrs="" # Determines default folder name for Saves... # Choices: default-folder, by-sender, by-from, by-recipient, last-folder-used. # Default: "default-folder", i.e. "saved-messages" (Unix) or "SAVEMAIL" (PC). #saved-msg-name-rule= # Determines default name for Fcc... # Choices: default-fcc, by-recipient, last-fcc-used. # Default: "default-fcc" (see also "default-fcc=" variable.) #fcc-name-rule= # Sets presentation order of messages in Index. Choices: # subject, from, arrival, date, size. Default: "arrival". #sort-key= # Sets presentation order of address book entries. Choices: dont-sort, # fullname-with-lists-last, fullname, nickname-with-lists-last, nickname # Default: "fullname-with-lists-last". #addrbook-sort-rule= # Reflects capabilities of the display you have. Default: US-ASCII. # Typical alternatives include ISO-8859-x, (x is a number between 1 and 9). #character-set= # Specifies the program invoked by ^_ in the Composer, # or the "enable-alternate-editor-implicitly" feature. #editor=pico # Program to view images (e.g. GIF or TIFF attachments). #image-viewer= # If "user-domain" not set, strips hostname in FROM address. (Unix only) use-only-domain-name= ########## Set within or by Pine: No need to edit below this line ########## # Your printer selection #printer= # Special print command if it isn't one of the standard printers #personal-print-command= # Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. #last-time-prune-questioned=95.2 # Set by Pine; controls display of "new version" message. #last-version-used=3.91 **************************************************************************** PINE.CONF.FIXED # Updated by Pine(tm) 3.91, copyright 1989-1993 University of Washington. # # Pine configuration file -- customize as needed. # # This file sets the configuration options used by Pine and PC-Pine. If you # are using Pine on a Unix system, there may be a system-wide configuration # file which sets the defaults for these variables. There are comments in # this file to explain each variable, but if you have questions about # specific settings see the section on configuration options in the Pine # notes. On Unix, run pine -conf to see how system defaults have been set. # For variables that accept multiple values, list elements are separated # by commas. A line beginning with a space or tab is considered to be a # continuation of the previous line. For a variable to be unset its value # must be blank. To set a variable to the empty string its value should # be "". You can override system defaults by setting a variable to the # empty string. Switch variables are set to either "yes" or "no", and # default to "no". # Lines beginning with "#" are comments, and ignored by Pine. ########################### Essential Parameters ########################### # Over-rides your full name from Unix password file. Required for PC-Pine. personal-name= # Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail. user-domain=langara.bc.ca # List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail. smtp-server= # NNTP server for posting news. Also sets news-collections for news reading. nntp-server=news.langara.bc.ca # Path of (local or remote) INBOX, e.g. ={mail.somewhere.edu}inbox # Normal Unix default is the local INBOX (usually /usr/spool/mail/$USER). #inbox-path= ###################### Collections, Folders, and Files ##################### # List of incoming msg folders besides INBOX, e.g. ={host2}inbox, {host3}inbox # Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-host-name}folder-path #incoming-folders= # List of directories where saved-message folders may be. First one is # the default for Saves. Example: Main {host1}mail/[], Desktop mail\[] # Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-hostname}optnl-directory-path[] #folder-collections= # List, only needed if nntp-server not set, or news is on a different host # than used for NNTP posting. Examples: News *[] or News *{host3/nntp}[] # Syntax: optnl-label *{news-host/protocol}[] news-collections=News *{news.langara.bc.ca/nntp}[] # Over-rides default path for sent-mail folder, e.g. =old-mail (using first # folder collection dir) or ={host2}sent-mail or ="" (to suppress saving). # Default: sent-mail (Unix) or SENTMAIL.MTX (PC) in default folder collection. #default-fcc= # Over-rides default path for postponed messages folder, e.g. =pm (which uses # first folder collection dir) or ={host4}pm (using home dir on host4). # Default: postponed-mail (Unix) or POSTPONE.MTX (PC) in default fldr coltn. #postponed-folder= # If set, specifies where already-read messages will be moved upon quitting. #read-message-folder= # Over-rides default path for signature file. Default is ~/.signature #signature-file= # List of file or path names for global/shared addressbook(s). # Default: none # Syntax: optnl-label path-name #global-address-book= # List of file or path names for personal addressbook(s). # Default: ~/.addressbook (Unix) or \PINE\ADDRBOOK (PC) # Syntax: optnl-label path-name #address-book= # bugs addresses # bugs-nickname="Jim Chivas" # bugs-fullname="Jim Chivas" # bugs-address="jchivas@langara.bc.ca" ############################### Preferences ################################ # List of features; see Pine's Setup/options menu for the current set. # e.g. feature-list= select-without-confirm, signature-at-bottom # Default condition for all of the features is no-. feature-list=enable-tab-completion, enable-jump-shortcut, enable-zoom-cmd, enable-full-header-cmd, enable-suspend, enable-aggregate-command-set, enable-alternate-editor-cmd, no-enable-bounce-cmd, enable-flag-cmd, expanded-view-of-addressbooks, expanded-view-of-folders, disable-password-cmd, disable-update-cmd, news-approximates-new-status, no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs # Pine executes these keys upon startup (e.g. to view msg 13: i,j,1,3,CR,v) #initial-keystroke-list= # Only show these headers (by default) when composing messages #default-composer-hdrs= # Add these customized headers (and possible default values) when composing customized-hdrs="" # Determines default folder name for Saves... # Choices: default-folder, by-sender, by-from, by-recipient, last-folder-used. # Default: "default-folder", i.e. "saved-messages" (Unix) or "SAVEMAIL" (PC). #saved-msg-name-rule= # Determines default name for Fcc... # Choices: default-fcc, by-recipient, last-fcc-used. # Default: "default-fcc" (see also "default-fcc=" variable.) #fcc-name-rule= # Sets presentation order of messages in Index. Choices: # subject, from, arrival, date, size. Default: "arrival". #sort-key= # Sets presentation order of address book entries. Choices: dont-sort, # fullname-with-lists-last, fullname, nickname-with-lists-last, nickname # Default: "fullname-with-lists-last". #addrbook-sort-rule= # Reflects capabilities of the display you have. Default: US-ASCII. # Typical alternatives include ISO-8859-x, (x is a number between 1 and 9). #character-set= # Specifies the program invoked by ^_ in the Composer, # or the "enable-alternate-editor-implicitly" feature. #editor=pico # Program to view images (e.g. GIF or TIFF attachments). #image-viewer= # If "user-domain" not set, strips hostname in FROM address. (Unix only) use-only-domain-name= ########## Set within or by Pine: No need to edit below this line ########## # Your printer selection #printer= # Special print command if it isn't one of the standard printers #personal-print-command= # Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. #last-time-prune-questioned=95.2 # Set by Pine; controls display of "new version" message. #last-version-used=3.91 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Chivas, Computing/Network Services email: jchivas@langara.bc.ca 100 West 49th Avenue Voice: (604) 323-5390 Vancouver Community College & Fax: (604) 323-5349 Langara College Vancouver, B.C., Canada V5Y 2Z6 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 11 20:09:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01777; Mon, 11 Mar 96 20:09:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09529; Mon, 11 Mar 96 20:00:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09523; Mon, 11 Mar 96 20:00:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twLBh-00038FC; Mon, 11 Mar 96 19:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: r_james%ix.netcom.com@psg.com(Rick, James@psg.com, ) Subject: Pine 3.91 on SCO Unix - Problem with attachments Date: 11 Mar 1996 22:26:34 GMT Message-Id: <4i29aq$k2h@reader2.ix.netcom.com> We are running SCO Open Server Enterprise 3.0.0 using MMDF as a transport agent with a UUCP connection to ATTMAIL. We are not running TCP/IP. I recently downloaded and installed the Pine 3.91 binaries for SCO Unix from celestial.com. This is my first experience with Pine. Here's my problem. Whenever I send an attachment to the local machine from the Net (using Netcruiser or Netscape), the attachment seems to get truncated. The MIME header shows that the content length is 2559 bytes but I only get 100 or so. Pine does not recognize the attachment. If I send an attachment from the local machine to someone on the Net it goes through fine. If I send an attachment from the local machine to another local user, it is sent and received fine. The only problem seems to be going from the Net to the local machine. I have searched the tech notes at U of Washington and the SCO manuals but I can't find a solution. Thanks in advance for any help that you might be able to render. ------------------------------------------ Rick James, System Administrator L&L Nursery Supply, Chino, CA http://www.jamesfamily.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 11 21:03:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02730; Mon, 11 Mar 96 21:03:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20693; Mon, 11 Mar 96 21:00:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20687; Mon, 11 Mar 96 21:00:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twM9m-00038FC; Mon, 11 Mar 96 20:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: garcia@clem.mscd.edu (GARCIA TERESA) Subject: news.newusers.questions Date: 8 Mar 1996 16:46:57 GMT Message-Id: <4hpoa1$hvk@clem.mscd.edu> is there a FAQ for the newsgroup From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 11 21:49:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03900; Mon, 11 Mar 96 21:49:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21381; Mon, 11 Mar 96 21:45:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21375; Mon, 11 Mar 96 21:45:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twMtN-00038TC; Mon, 11 Mar 96 21:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: courcoul@campus.qro.itesm.mx (Juan M. Courcoul) Subject: Building pine on Solaris 2.4 Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 16:37:59 -0600 Message-Id: I need to customize and rebuild Pine, to run on a SparcStation with Solaris 2.4. Doing a 'build sol' is a no-go; pico and imap build fine, but pine bombs out. Closer inspection of the makefiles and the osdep/os-* files shows that they're for Solaris 2.2. Would some kind soul have a set of customized makefile.sol and osdep/* files willing to share ? TIA for your help ! -- Juan M. Courcoul courcoul@campus.qro.itesm.mx Instituto Tecnologico de Monterrey courcoul@itesmcq1.qro.itesm.mx Campus Queretaro From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 11 21:49:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03922; Mon, 11 Mar 96 21:49:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11155; Mon, 11 Mar 96 21:46:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11149; Mon, 11 Mar 96 21:46:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twMtW-00038UC; Mon, 11 Mar 96 21:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@guava.epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Address file location? Date: 11 Mar 1996 17:23:23 GMT Message-Id: <4i1nib$eoc@guava.epix.net> References: <4hv662$j11@nntp.interaccess.com> Richard E. Freeman (rfreeman@psycfrnd.interaccess.com) wrote: : How do you back up the address file? I can't find its physical location : so as to copy it. It's a file in your home directory, the filename is '.addressbook' Don't forget the . in front! Hope this helps. BYE. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 11 21:49:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03951; Mon, 11 Mar 96 21:49:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11139; Mon, 11 Mar 96 21:45:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11133; Mon, 11 Mar 96 21:45:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twMtN-00038FC; Mon, 11 Mar 96 21:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@guava.epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Folder File Format? Date: 11 Mar 1996 17:28:00 GMT Message-Id: <4i1nr0$eoc@guava.epix.net> References: <4hv6dk$j11@nntp.interaccess.com> Richard E. Freeman (rfreeman@psycfrnd.interaccess.com) wrote: : I mistakenly saved a number of old messages to a unix system file using : the export command and now find I can't use pine to read them. Can I : convert this file into a folder file? Not directly, but you could mail it to yourself. : What is the best way to store your old messages so that they can be : retrieved if you need them again? Use S to (s)ave, not E to (e)xport, they will be saved in a folder name 'saved-messages', although you can change that. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 00:59:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07363; Tue, 12 Mar 96 00:59:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23669; Tue, 12 Mar 96 00:56:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23663; Tue, 12 Mar 96 00:56:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twPrq-00038TC; Tue, 12 Mar 96 00:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmeling Subject: Can you change commands into personal commands in Pine?? Date: 8 Mar 1996 13:58:43 GMT Message-Id: <4hpeej$al0@dole.uninett.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is it possible to change commands into more personal commands by using alias functions or simular commands. Example: finger tdalane@krs.hia.no new command: find td Is this possible to do??? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 01:00:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07392; Tue, 12 Mar 96 01:00:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13467; Tue, 12 Mar 96 00:56:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13461; Tue, 12 Mar 96 00:56:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twPrq-00038UC; Tue, 12 Mar 96 00:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmeling Subject: Need help setting up newsgroups!! Date: 8 Mar 1996 14:00:26 GMT Message-Id: <4hpehq$al0@dole.uninett.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What shall i write in the setup menu to order newsgroups. nntp-server= ? I dont know what to write here! news-colletions=? Not here either! Please help me!!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 01:01:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07478; Tue, 12 Mar 96 01:01:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23677; Tue, 12 Mar 96 00:56:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23671; Tue, 12 Mar 96 00:56:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twPrZ-00038FC; Tue, 12 Mar 96 00:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmeling Subject: Is it possiblle to make a .loing file? Date: 8 Mar 1996 13:56:09 GMT Message-Id: <4hpe9p$al0@dole.uninett.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wonder if you can change the screen from: login: passwd: into something totally different! like: please login: p-word: Need help here!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 01:34:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08480; Tue, 12 Mar 96 01:34:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13910; Tue, 12 Mar 96 01:31:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13904; Tue, 12 Mar 96 01:31:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twQLg-00038FC; Tue, 12 Mar 96 01:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sean Hussey Subject: Sorting by Thread in news Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:36:17 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey everyone, I'd like to be able to sort the messages in my newsgroups by thread. Ordered Subject works to a point, but it doesn't then sort the messages by date within the ordered subject. Is there any way to do this? Thanks! :) Sean --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sean Hussey The Internet Access Company Customer Service Representative Macintosh Technical Support http://www.tiac.net/staff/seanh/ seanh@tiac.net --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 01:39:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08595; Tue, 12 Mar 96 01:39:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24176; Tue, 12 Mar 96 01:36:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24170; Tue, 12 Mar 96 01:36:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twQU2-00038TC; Tue, 12 Mar 96 01:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kelly@mind.net (David M Kelly) Subject: Re: Changing default "From" line ? Date: 8 Mar 1996 16:23:33 GMT Message-Id: <4hpmu5$mn3@news.mind.net> References: <1996Mar8.033743.10479@oasis.enmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1996Mar8.033743.10479@oasis.enmu.edu> Chuck, Check out August issue of Linux Gazette at http://www.tenn.com/fiskhtml/ gazette_toc.html This has a very detailed explanation of using Pine+pop and changing the From: field. I know you will find it very helpful. I am having problems with invalid mailbox format messages do you know anything about this? david kelly kelly@mind.net ashland,or usa In article <1996Mar8.033743.10479@oasis.enmu.edu>, Chuck McCullough writes: >Is there a way to change the Pine configuration to use a different >return e-mail address "username" (i.e.,username@domain...)?? >This is needed when an alias e-mail domain is used. Thanks! > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 01:50:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08782; Tue, 12 Mar 96 01:50:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14059; Tue, 12 Mar 96 01:46:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14053; Tue, 12 Mar 96 01:46:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twQeD-00038TC; Tue, 12 Mar 96 01:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rfreeman@psycfrnd.interaccess.com (Richard E. Freeman) Subject: Address file location? Date: 10 Mar 1996 18:14:26 GMT Message-Id: <4hv662$j11@nntp.interaccess.com> How do you back up the address file? I can't find its physical location so as to copy it. Thanks, Rich Freeman -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 02:01:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08990; Tue, 12 Mar 96 02:01:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24334; Tue, 12 Mar 96 01:51:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24328; Tue, 12 Mar 96 01:51:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twQgm-00038FC; Tue, 12 Mar 96 01:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rfreeman@psycfrnd.interaccess.com (Richard E. Freeman) Subject: Folder File Format? Date: 10 Mar 1996 18:18:28 GMT Message-Id: <4hv6dk$j11@nntp.interaccess.com> I mistakenly saved a number of old messages to a unix system file using the export command and now find I can't use pine to read them. Can I convert this file into a folder file? What is the best way to store your old messages so that they can be retrieved if you need them again? Thanks, Rich Freeman -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 02:21:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09291; Tue, 12 Mar 96 02:21:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14334; Tue, 12 Mar 96 02:11:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14328; Tue, 12 Mar 96 02:11:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twR1s-00038UC; Tue, 12 Mar 96 02:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pww@bnr.ca (Peter Whittaker) Subject: Re: Spell checking with pine Date: 8 Mar 1996 14:28:07 GMT Message-Id: <4hpg5n$den@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> References: <4hnu8e$qut@nitrogen.mankato.msus.edu> In article <4hnu8e$qut@nitrogen.mankato.msus.edu>, Paul L Schumann wrote: >Bill Jenuwine (wjenuwin@ed8200.ped.pto.ford.com) wrote: >: So if by default, Pine uses the simple Unix spell checker, how can I >: change this default AND/OR specify my own alternate dictionary for words >: not found in the main dictionary list. > >Most Unix systems have a program called ispell, which is a good, >interactive spell checker program that allows one to add words to a >custom dictionary. The only "trick" is to get Pine to use ispell. > >By the way, this method also lets you use other editors besides pico for >composing your e-mail. For example, I prefer to use the vi editor. So, >when I compose a message, after I've filled in the header information, I >hit CTRL+_, then type vi (and hit enter), compose my message in vi, exit >vi using the usual vi command (:wq), hit CTRL+_ again, then type ispell >to spell check it. That's a bit labour intensive (where "labour intensive" is defined as having to do anymore that absolutely necessary). Try the following vi macro: % grep ispell ~/.exrc map S :w :!ispell % :e % Edit the file in vi, hit escape to get back to command mode (as you would prior to entering :wq), hit S to spell check the file, then enter :wq to quit vi and return to pico/pine. Note: ^M is entered using vi's escape mechanism: ^V^M. And of course you can use almost any keys you like to invoke the macro, e.g., ^Xsp. pww -- Peter Whittaker [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] X.500 Specialist pww@entrust.com [ http://www.entrust.com ] Nortel Secure Networks Ph: +1 613 765 2064 [ ] P.O. Box 3511, Station C FAX:+1 613 765 3520 [__________________________] Ottawa, Canada, K1Y 4H7 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 03:06:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10100; Tue, 12 Mar 96 03:06:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25049; Tue, 12 Mar 96 03:01:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25043; Tue, 12 Mar 96 03:01:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twRpQ-00038FC; Tue, 12 Mar 96 03:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ray McAllister Subject: Re: A way to print a whole long message? Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 01:16:12 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Karen, I tried your suggestion and for a second thought it was working but what I got was the page then whatever I had done before, i.e. scrolling up thru log on or whatever else I had done. Thanks a million but I am still in deep do-do. Ray McAllister, Prof (Emeritus) Ocean Eng., FAU, Boca Raton, FL 33064 Diving Dinosaur, Geologist/Oceanographer/Ocean Engineer, 44 years SCUBA mcallist@gate.net (954) 426-0808, Author Diving Locations, Boynton/Dania From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 05:03:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13204; Tue, 12 Mar 96 05:03:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16337; Tue, 12 Mar 96 04:56:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16331; Tue, 12 Mar 96 04:56:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twTce-00038TC; Tue, 12 Mar 96 04:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maddison@connexus.apana.org.au (David S. Maddison) Subject: Re: Help! How do I unmerge messages? Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 10:12:45 GMT Message-Id: <4i3im9$2st@preeda.internex.net.au> References: <4i2d4i$e4o@preeda.internex.net.au> This problem seems to have fixed itself. I went inot the setup menu and had a look but didn't do anything. When I got out and exited Pine, the file was OK when I went back in, but the message I sent wasn't there. Perhaps the file was temporaily corrupted? Any ideas? Remember, ALWAYS do backups! maddison@connexus.apana.org.au (David Maddison) wrote: >I was composing a message and when I finished I discovered that my 2-300 >sent-mail messages had been merged into one big message (along with some >of another user's messages). How do I unmerge this big message into >seperate ones again? >Thanks, >David From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 05:11:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13352; Tue, 12 Mar 96 05:11:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26690; Tue, 12 Mar 96 05:02:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jumbo.ntplx.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26684; Tue, 12 Mar 96 05:02:37 -0800 Received: by ntplx.net (4.1/NETPLEX-2.3.0) id AA09076; Tue, 12 Mar 96 08:02:36 EST Received: by quoin1.quoininc.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tvohr-000FEbC; Sun, 10 Mar 96 12:14 EST Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 12:14:55 -0500 (EST) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: Jeannine Muldoon Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Questions In-Reply-To: <4ho6gr$n5k@nic.umass.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 8 Mar 1996, Jeannine Muldoon wrote: > I have a couple questions about Pine. First, can I use PGP with > Pine V3.91? And second, how can I read and post to newsgroups with Pine? > Thanks in advance. You really should take a look at the help system in pine and the supplied documentation. Pine doesn't directly support pgp. You can use mkpgp which integrate pgp with pine. Yes, you can read/post messages to Usenet groups. See the online documentation (? at the main menu). Jean Pierre LeJacq __ ____ __ __ ____/\_\ ____ Quoin Inc / __ \/\ \/\ \ / __ \/\ \ / _ \ 124 Mount Auburn Street /\ \_\ \ \ \_\ \/\ \_\ \ \ \/\ \/\ \ Cambridge, MA 02138-5700 \ \___ \ \____/\ \____/\ \_\ \_\ \_\ USA \/___/\ \/___/ \/___/ \/_/\/_/\/_/ \ \_\ voice: +1.617.576.5885 \/_/ OBJECT CONSULTANTS fax: +1.617.576.5876 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 07:06:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15092; Tue, 12 Mar 96 07:06:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27914; Tue, 12 Mar 96 06:50:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from TheRock.mcg.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27908; Tue, 12 Mar 96 06:50:49 -0800 Received: by therock.mcg.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA41991; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 09:51:12 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 09:51:12 -0500 (EST) From: Greg Sutherland To: Pine ListServ Subject: one more time Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Perhaps my previous Subject confused matters. If someone knows what might be causing my problem, I sure would appreciate a note. Also what address do I use to unsubscribe. I'll be going on vacation sometime and might want to unsubscribe before I go. ;) Thanks for your help on either of these questions. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 10:19:46 -0500 (EST) From: Greg Sutherland To: Pine ListServ Subject: Returned mail: Unable to deliver mail (fwd) One of my users was trying to send to a large distribution list. He got Subject: Returned mail: Unable to deliver mail (fwd) and 554 ... Unbalanced '<' Is there a limit to the size of a distribution list? || Greg Sutherland Mail greg@therock.mcg.edu || || Systems Administrator || || Medical College of Georgia || From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 07:22:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15531; Tue, 12 Mar 96 07:22:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28236; Tue, 12 Mar 96 07:12:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28230; Tue, 12 Mar 96 07:12:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twVfV-00038FC; Tue, 12 Mar 96 07:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: different reply-address Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 08:40:22 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 12 Mar 1996, Michiel Perdeck wrote: > How can I put a reply-address in a message that is different from the > sender's? So that a reply will go to this address in stead of the address > where I sent the message from. Assuming you are running the current version of Pine, 3.91, from the Main Menu go into Setup and Config. Scroll down to customized-hdrs and add a line: Reply-To: the_address_you_want_replies_to_go_to Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 07:55:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16242; Tue, 12 Mar 96 07:55:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28610; Tue, 12 Mar 96 07:37:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28604; Tue, 12 Mar 96 07:37:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twW5w-00038TC; Tue, 12 Mar 96 07:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mraaum@uio.no (Margrete Raaum) Subject: Re: Sorting the address book Date: 12 Mar 1996 15:24:46 GMT Message-Id: <4i44vu$8en@ratatosk.uio.no> References: I artikkel , michielp@atf.cmg.nl (Michiel Perdeck) tastet: >How do I sort the address book? In setup you can find: addrbook-sort-rule = Set Rule Values --- ---------------------- ( ) fullname-with-lists-last ( ) fullname ( ) nickname-with-lists-last ( ) nickname ( ) dont-sort Mrg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 07:57:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16294; Tue, 12 Mar 96 07:57:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18426; Tue, 12 Mar 96 07:37:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18420; Tue, 12 Mar 96 07:37:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twW5w-00038FC; Tue, 12 Mar 96 07:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mraaum@uio.no (Margrete Raaum) Subject: Re: different reply-address Date: 12 Mar 1996 15:22:36 GMT Message-Id: <4i44rs$8en@ratatosk.uio.no> References: I artikkel , michielp@atf.cmg.nl (Michiel Perdeck) tastet: >How can I put a reply-address in a message that is different from the >sender's? So that a reply will go to this address in stead of the address >where I sent the message from. customized-hdrs = Reply-to: in setup. Mrg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 08:46:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18162; Tue, 12 Mar 96 08:46:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19754; Tue, 12 Mar 96 08:34:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19748; Tue, 12 Mar 96 08:34:37 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01281; Tue, 12 Mar 96 08:34:34 -0800 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 08:34:33 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Sean Hussey Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Sorting by Thread in news In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, it's *supposed* to sort by date within the pseudo thread... but it is a bit picky about having correct date headers. For example if you see one that has the year in two-digit form (e.g. "96") it will always sort before the messages with correct four-digit years... If you have examples of messages that appear to have correctly formatted date headers but don't sort correctly, please bounce a couple of examples to me and I'll get them to the right person. -teg On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Sean Hussey wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I'd like to be able to sort the messages in my newsgroups by thread. > Ordered Subject works to a point, but it doesn't then sort the messages > by date within the ordered subject. Is there any way to do this? > > Thanks! :) > > Sean > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Sean Hussey The Internet Access Company > Customer Service Representative Macintosh Technical Support > http://www.tiac.net/staff/seanh/ seanh@tiac.net > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 08:54:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18544; Tue, 12 Mar 96 08:54:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00249; Tue, 12 Mar 96 08:43:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from oxmail3.ox.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00243; Tue, 12 Mar 96 08:43:22 -0800 Received: from sable.ox.ac.uk by oxmail3 with SMTP (PP) with ESMTP; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 16:42:42 +0000 Received: (from exet0063@localhost) by sable.ox.ac.uk (1.6/8.6.12) id QAA25447; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 16:42:20 GMT Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 16:42:20 +0000 (GMT) From: Nick Pashley To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PC pine folders problem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have unziped and put the Pine and Pico programs onto my hard disk drive. The program loads OK, but it cant open any folders. I believe UNIX systems have lots of default folders and mailboxes so all this tedious work is unnecessary. I have tried both PC pine and Pine for Windows with the same problems. The PC is networked to a mail server through PC-NFS (a Sun thing I think). In reality, it is probably just the fact that I dont know how to configure Pine on a PC. The Pine I use on a UNIX platform was already configured for me and I cant find any support for Pine for PC. Please help Nick Pashley From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 09:50:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21588; Tue, 12 Mar 96 09:50:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21212; Tue, 12 Mar 96 09:27:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21204; Tue, 12 Mar 96 09:27:32 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19005; Tue, 12 Mar 96 09:27:24 -0800 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 09:27:22 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Sean Hussey Cc: Pine News Group Subject: Re: Sorting by Thread in news In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Actually, in 3.91 it doesn't sort by date within the pseudo thread, it sorts by arrival order. So if messages arrive out of order, they will show up out of order with this sort (or with the default Arrival sort). In 3.92 we're changing it to sort by date within the pseudo thread. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Tue, 12 Mar 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > Well, it's *supposed* to sort by date within the pseudo thread... > but it is a bit picky about having correct date headers. > For example if you see one that has the year in two-digit form (e.g. "96") > it will always sort before the messages with correct four-digit years... > > If you have examples of messages that appear to have correctly formatted > date headers but don't sort correctly, please bounce a couple of examples > to me and I'll get them to the right person. > > -teg > > On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Sean Hussey wrote: > > > Hey everyone, > > > > I'd like to be able to sort the messages in my newsgroups by thread. > > Ordered Subject works to a point, but it doesn't then sort the messages > > by date within the ordered subject. Is there any way to do this? > > > > Thanks! :) > > > > Sean From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 09:52:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21655; Tue, 12 Mar 96 09:52:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21644; Tue, 12 Mar 96 09:39:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from millenium.tiac.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21636; Tue, 12 Mar 96 09:39:35 -0800 Received: (from seanh@localhost) by millenium.tiac.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA12025; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 12:39:37 -0500 Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 12:39:28 -0500 (EST) From: Sean Hussey To: Steve Hubert Cc: Pine News Group Subject: Re: Sorting by Thread in news In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ok, great. Is there a proposed release date for 3.92 yet? I don't wanna nag, but if you've got the info (or a way for me to get it), I (and my whole staff) would appreciate it. Thanks for the replies! Sean On Tue, 12 Mar 1996, Steve Hubert wrote: > Actually, in 3.91 it doesn't sort by date within the pseudo thread, it > sorts by arrival order. So if messages arrive out of order, they will > show up out of order with this sort (or with the default Arrival sort). > In 3.92 we're changing it to sort by date within the pseudo thread. > > Steve Hubert > Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle > > > On Tue, 12 Mar 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > > > Well, it's *supposed* to sort by date within the pseudo thread... > > but it is a bit picky about having correct date headers. > > For example if you see one that has the year in two-digit form (e.g. "96") > > it will always sort before the messages with correct four-digit years... > > > > If you have examples of messages that appear to have correctly formatted > > date headers but don't sort correctly, please bounce a couple of examples > > to me and I'll get them to the right person. > > > > -teg > > > > On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Sean Hussey wrote: > > > > > Hey everyone, > > > > > > I'd like to be able to sort the messages in my newsgroups by thread. > > > Ordered Subject works to a point, but it doesn't then sort the messages > > > by date within the ordered subject. Is there any way to do this? > > > > > > Thanks! :) > > > > > > Sean > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- .... . . . . . . The Internet Access Company Sean Hussey . (617) 276-7200 HTML Author . seanh@tiac.net http://www.tiac.net/ . . . . . . .... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 10:13:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22283; Tue, 12 Mar 96 10:13:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21938; Tue, 12 Mar 96 09:52:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21932; Tue, 12 Mar 96 09:52:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twYCQ-00038FC; Tue, 12 Mar 96 09:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: becker@sable.adelphi.edu (Don Becker) Subject: Re: Pine v3.91 for OVMS 6.2/UCX 4.0 Date: 11 Mar 96 15:42:23 EST Message-Id: <1996Mar11.154223@sable.adelphi.edu> References: <1996Mar11.151627@sable.adelphi.edu> In article <1996Mar11.151627@sable.adelphi.edu>, becker@sable.adelphi.edu (Don Becker) writes: > Recently I tried compiling PINE v3.91 for OpenVMS Alpha v6.2, running UCX v4.0. > It compiled OK (a few warnings, but at the very least Pico runs flawlessly), > but now I want it to read PINE.CONF. It says "No host name or domain name > set", but the first thing I have defined in PINE.CONF is the host name. ... > The README.VMS says it looks in UTIL$, but I have UTIL$ defined properly and > it's pointing to the right directory, but no luck. Scratch all that -- I got the PINE.EXE to load and I got the ever-familiar menu, but whenever I try sending a message, I get the following error: Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal" Exiting pine. And then it dumps me back to the DCL prompt. This happens when I type ^X to send... For the record, it's not v3.91 as I had first thought, but rather it's version 3.89.1.2-VMS-7 (according to the top line of the main menu). --Don -- / Don Becker -- becker@sable.adelphi.edu | "Can't this wait till I'm old? \ | SABLE/OpenVMS System Administrator | Can't I live while I'm young?" | | Adelphi University, Garden City, NY | --Phish | \ Phone: (516)877-3341 Fax: (516)877-3545 | / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 10:26:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22671; Tue, 12 Mar 96 10:26:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22490; Tue, 12 Mar 96 10:15:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sol.essex.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22484; Tue, 12 Mar 96 10:15:43 -0800 Received: from mars (mars.essex.edu) by sol (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA01951; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 13:13:53 +0500 Received: by mars (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02923; Tue, 12 Mar 96 13:07:39 EST Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 13:07:38 -0500 (EST) From: Ysabel Bravo To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help with an e-mail addreess Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 462 To whom it may concern. My name is Ysabel. I'm a student from Essex County College in New Jersey. I would like to know more about internet. My main concern right now is how to use internet prooperly and to take advantage of it as much as I can. Another concern is that I would like to know how to get in contact with the Catholic University of Chile to exchange information about their Student Government. Waiting for your response. Sincerely, Ysabel. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 10:26:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22679; Tue, 12 Mar 96 10:26:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02952; Tue, 12 Mar 96 10:17:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02946; Tue, 12 Mar 96 10:17:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twYbW-00038FC; Tue, 12 Mar 96 10:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chris Foo Subject: Rejected mail.. Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 12:34:26 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is their any way for Pine to automatically delete messages from a certain address? i.e Mail Daemon set...I receive several rejected messages daily, and I just wanted to have Pine delete 'em. I know that a prog. called BeyondMail can do it..Thanks for any replies... **************************************************************************** Chris Foo University of Ottawa, Biochemistry aj061@freenet.carleton.ca s1052274@aix2.uottawa.ca USS Defiant NX-74205 _________________________ __.--'--,.-' ---------'--'--' /`-.__ |__--(--( | NX-74025 ==== /-----.`--._ `---.__\ --========)> |__|___)_> `-. \_________|________/ `----' Worf: "Be quiet! Or disappear back where you came from." Q: "I can't disappear...anymore than you could win a beauty contest." --"Deja Q" ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 11:17:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24745; Tue, 12 Mar 96 11:17:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23591; Tue, 12 Mar 96 11:02:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23585; Tue, 12 Mar 96 11:02:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twZJ3-00038TC; Tue, 12 Mar 96 11:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: joecat@execpc.com (BoMB) Subject: MAPI/SMTP docs/SDK? Date: 12 Mar 1996 17:32:03 GMT Message-Id: <4i4cej$1nl@daily-planet.execpc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Greetings - Please pardon me if this is not the correct place to post this request. I'm looking for documentation on MAPI and SMTP under Win95. The object is to update some old Win3x C code. A spec would help, but an SDK at reasonable cost would be ideal. Thanks in advance for any help you can give me! Joe Cat joecat@execpc.com ------------------------------------------------ "The success of a given engineering venture is directly proportional to the amount of equipment ruined" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 12:31:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27542; Tue, 12 Mar 96 12:31:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05849; Tue, 12 Mar 96 12:17:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05843; Tue, 12 Mar 96 12:17:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twaTa-00038FC; Tue, 12 Mar 96 12:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aaron@xmission.com (Aaron M. Scarisbrick) Subject: Re: Spell checking with pine Date: 12 Mar 1996 02:46:42 GMT Message-Id: <4i2oii$amc@news.xmission.com> References: <4hnu8e$qut@nitrogen.mankato.msus.edu> Paul L Schumann (schumann@krypton.mankato.msus.edu) wrote: : Most Unix systems have a program called ispell, which is a good, : interactive spell checker program that allows one to add words to a : custom dictionary. The only "trick" is to get Pine to use ispell. Yes, I spent a fair amount of time porting ispell to Pyramid's DC/OSx, and found out the hard way that there is no easy way (that is obvious to me) to integrate ispell with pine's editor, pico. The only way I can see is by someone hacking up spell.c in pico's source to write out to a temp file as it normally does, then pass that file as an argument to ispell, and then re-read the file after ispell exits. Unfortunately this is just beyond the scope of my skills just just now, but I can recognize what exactly needs to change, and where to change it. If somebody out there has already been this route, I'd appreciate whatever help they would be willing to lend, and/or their diff against spell.c ;-) Thanks in advance, --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aaron M. Scarisbrick The smoker you drink, the player you get. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- aaron@xmission.com http://www.xmission.com/~aaron --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 13:39:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00509; Tue, 12 Mar 96 13:39:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07666; Tue, 12 Mar 96 13:28:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gateway.cmg.nl by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07660; Tue, 12 Mar 96 13:28:16 -0800 Received: (from Ucmg-atf@localhost) by gateway.cmg.nl (8.6.9/8.6.9) with UUCP id XAA15520; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 23:24:06 +0200 Received: (from michielp@localhost) by mailgate.atf.cmg.nl. (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA03309; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 22:23:11 +0100 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 22:23:10 +0100 From: Michiel Perdeck Subject: Re: Pine + Pico sources wanted To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What sort of files do I find in the location below? They look like binaries, or are they somehow compressed? How do I decompress them? Are these really the sources that I am looking for? I need PICO on an Olivetti Unix machine. Regards, Michiel Perdeck (Michiel.Perdeck@cmg.nl) CMG Finance div. AT On Mon, 11 Mar 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > By anonymous ftp from ftp.cac.washington.edu > > Cheers, > > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Michiel Perdeck wrote: > > > Where can I find source code for Pine and Pico? > > > > Thanks for tips, > > Michiel > > > > -- > > Michiel Perdeck (Michiel.Perdeck@cmg.nl) > > CMG Finance div. AT > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 13:49:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01057; Tue, 12 Mar 96 13:49:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27778; Tue, 12 Mar 96 13:37:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27771; Tue, 12 Mar 96 13:37:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twbhd-00038FC; Tue, 12 Mar 96 13:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kelly@mind.net (David M Kelly) Subject: INBOX problems Date: 12 Mar 1996 00:40:09 GMT Message-Id: <4i2h59$qgp@news.mind.net> I am having trouble with messages multiplying themselves in my inbox. I am suspecting that the path I am specifing in popclient /home/kelly/ /mail/mail-in is somehow duplicating a path to INBOX. Messages are showing up in both INBOX and mail-in. Does anyone have any experience with this sort of problem. Thanks. david kelly kelly@mind.net ashland,or From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 13:50:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01109; Tue, 12 Mar 96 13:50:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08023; Tue, 12 Mar 96 13:37:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08017; Tue, 12 Mar 96 13:37:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twbhd-00038TC; Tue, 12 Mar 96 13:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maddison@connexus.apana.org.au (David Maddison) Subject: Help! How do I unmerge messages? Date: 11 Mar 1996 23:31:30 GMT Message-Id: <4i2d4i$e4o@preeda.internex.net.au> I was composing a message and when I finished I discovered that my 2-300 sent-mail messages had been merged into one big message (along with some of another user's messages). How do I unmerge this big message into seperate ones again? Thanks, David From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 14:04:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01605; Tue, 12 Mar 96 14:04:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28347; Tue, 12 Mar 96 13:57:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28341; Tue, 12 Mar 96 13:57:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twc1O-00038TC; Tue, 12 Mar 96 13:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsparks@netaxs.com (Jared Sparks) Subject: cmsg cancel <4hcpls$57@netaxs.com> Control: cancel <4hcpls$57@netaxs.com> Date: 11 Mar 1996 23:50:09 GMT Message-Id: <4i2e7h$72n@netaxs.com> Article cancelled from within tin [v1.3 950824BETA PL0] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 14:24:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02539; Tue, 12 Mar 96 14:24:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09147; Tue, 12 Mar 96 14:17:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09141; Tue, 12 Mar 96 14:17:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twcMi-00038FC; Tue, 12 Mar 96 14:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pcp95mah@silver.shef.ac.uk (M Huffman) Subject: Solved my own problem Date: 9 Mar 1996 16:23:16 GMT Message-Id: <4hsb9k$942@bignews.shef.ac.uk> As indicated, I have in fact solved the problem on my own. Please ignore my previous message and sorry for troubling the group. Adam Huffman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 16:06:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06202; Tue, 12 Mar 96 16:06:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01793; Tue, 12 Mar 96 15:59:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bubba.NMSU.Edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01785; Tue, 12 Mar 96 15:59:23 -0800 Received: from NMSU.Edu by bubba.NMSU.Edu (8.6.10/NMSU) id RAA11138; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 17:01:27 -0700 Received: from ccserver by NMSU.Edu (8.6.10/NMSU-1.18) id QAA08996; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 16:59:21 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 16:59:21 -0700 Message-Id: <199603122359.QAA08996@NMSU.Edu> Received: from ldaugh2.NMSU.Edu by ccserver (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/NMSU) id AA67072; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 16:59:06 -0700 X-Sender: marmadri@cnmailsvr.nmsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marie Bernadette Madrid Subject: question I have a question. A friend of mine in Missouri told me that we can communicate by the computer. Not e-mailing each other but having our computers talking to one another. Do you have any suggestions that I may try to get this to work? I have tried through my e-mail but it doesn't let me. I can send her regular e-mail thats no problem. This is the way she tries to reach me on my computer at New Mexico State. This is what she wrote: As far as talking on the computers you have to get into the internet program and do it from there. New Mexico State has PINE so try that and see if you can make a connection. The computer will let you know if it can get through, I know that I can because I tried but you were not logged on to the system and thats why I could not talk to you, its like trying to send e-mail except that you have to type "talk user id." and then wait till I answer. Inorder for this to work both parties have to be logged on to the system. I hope that you can help me. I was just wondering if there is a way to do this. I would really appreciate your input. Thanks, Marie B. Madrid Agronomy and Horticulture New Mexico state University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 16:51:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07742; Tue, 12 Mar 96 16:51:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12890; Tue, 12 Mar 96 16:42:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12884; Tue, 12 Mar 96 16:42:18 -0800 Received: from maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id RAA12680 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 17:42:00 -0700 Received: from gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.19]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id RAA88376; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 17:42:02 -0700 Received: by gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9) id RAA63128; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 17:42:01 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 17:42:01 -0700 (MST) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca To: Marie Bernadette Madrid Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: question In-Reply-To: <199603122359.QAA08996@NMSU.Edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 12 Mar 1996, Marie Bernadette Madrid wrote: > As far as talking on the computers you have to get into the internet program > and do it from there. New Mexico State has PINE so try that and see if you > can make a connection. The computer will let you know if it can get > through, I know that I can because I tried but you were not logged on to the > system and thats why I could not talk to you, its like trying to send > e-mail except that you have to type "talk user id." and then wait till I > answer. Inorder for this to work both parties have to be logged on to the > system. What she's talking about is a Unix daemon. Not at all related to Pine electronic mail, and cannot be used from within Pine. Talk is a Unix daemon that allows a two-way conversation between two Unix accounts. Both people must be logged in to their accounts at the same time (you can use finger, another Unix daemon, to determine if the other person is logged in or not) for Talk to work. Different releases of Talk don't communicate well with each other, and sometimes if the two machines have the talk daemon loaded on different ports, it won't work either. You'll have to find out by trial and error. To find out if your friend is logged in to her account, type the following at the Unix (system) prompt in your account: finger login where login is the name of her account. ie, if you wanted to finger my account you would type finger maldridg To initiate a talk session with your friend, type the following at the Unix (system) prompt in your account: talk login@machine.name.here where the login@machine.name.here string is her e-mail address. If you wanted to talk to someone on the same machine as you, you would only have to type talk login So, to talk to my account, for example, you'd type talk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca Hope this information helps you out some... Lea ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) http://www.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/tutor/Tutorials.html http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/Wiz/Wizard ....Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 22:28:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15825; Tue, 12 Mar 96 22:28:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18352; Tue, 12 Mar 96 22:24:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18346; Tue, 12 Mar 96 22:24:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twjyC-00038UC; Tue, 12 Mar 96 22:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: paz@world.std.com (Philip A Zimmermann) Subject: Re: E-mail spam adverts Message-Id: References: <4hiegf$5el@fu-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 01:14:10 GMT Sven Guckes (guckes@math.fu-berlin.de) wrote: : paz@world.std.com (Philip A Zimmermann) writes: : >... future version of Pine should include a "spamfile", where the system : >administrators can add addresses and subject lines taken from spams and : >compare them to those of incoming email, ... : Keeping this file up-todate requires that *every* mail that comes in has to be : checked. This is a lot of work which requires a person to read all day. : Well, I won't pay money for someone to read my mail. : Besides, what about my right to receive spam mails if I want them? : Furthermore, why should someone else decide which mail will not get? : And what happens if that person comes up with a spamfile rule that says : "delete every mail that contains the word 'and'"? : No way!! Read my original posting. The intent is to base the spamfile contents upon identifying the spam's source address and/or the subject line. If you've used dmail, you'll recognize that I'm not suggesting anything new, just something more convenient for the average user. The system administrator doesn't read your email. The system administrator gets spammed. Since the sysadmin is likely to be reading their mail (and hence the spam) before the average user logs on and gets the same spam, the system administrator uses a function similar to `Take Address' (currently in Pine), which appends the From: address and/or the Subject: line to the spamfile. The spamfile is written to only by the sysadmin. It gets read by Pine each time a user launches Pine, *IF* the user has their Pine-config file spam setting set to "spam off". : Btw, you forgot to add your "CDA supporter signature". HTH. : (I just hope this isn't the PGP Zimmermann .. ;-) I added it; I just used non-printing characters. That way, those who are supposed to read it know it's there. As for PGP Zimmermann... Well, you figure it out. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 22:29:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15885; Tue, 12 Mar 96 22:29:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08394; Tue, 12 Mar 96 22:24:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08388; Tue, 12 Mar 96 22:24:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twjyC-00038TC; Tue, 12 Mar 96 22:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: marvin@superlink.net (Warren or Tony Lieuallen) Subject: Can someone help me with filter? Date: 12 Mar 1996 01:36:56 GMT Message-Id: <4i2kfo$jlp@earth.superlink.net> I tried looking at the man page, but I can't figure it out. Can someone give me example syntax (for the rule file) to move messages with certain text in the subject to a specified folder? ADVthanksANCE -- +-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Tony Lieuallen | marvin@mars.superlink.net | +-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | http://mars.superlink.net/marvin/home | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | * It's Non-Toxic! That means you can eat it!! | | * WWW really stands for World Wide Wait!!! | | * Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side and a dark side and | | it holds the universe together. | | * Flashlight: Device to store dead batteries. | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 12 22:30:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15941; Tue, 12 Mar 96 22:30:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08404; Tue, 12 Mar 96 22:24:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08396; Tue, 12 Mar 96 22:24:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twjyC-00038VC; Tue, 12 Mar 96 22:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: James Shattuck Subject: Q: How to make a message read-only in my inbox? Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 17:29:42 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I download mail from home on Netscape 2.0 as well as read it from school, and there is already a file in my inbox that the pop3 server uses that is read-only. How can I make other messages that I receive read-only? Thanks ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ James Alan Shattuck Computer Science Major Disabled Student Services - High Tech Center CSU, Chico 898-5959 DSS Home Page: http://www.csuchico.edu/dss/ Born: 9/3/63 Adopted: 7/71 as Anthony Douglas, San Francisco, Ca Searching for Birth Family Adoption Home Page: http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~progman/adoption ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 13 01:28:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20200; Wed, 13 Mar 96 01:28:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10971; Wed, 13 Mar 96 01:23:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from my28.sm.luth.se by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10965; Wed, 13 Mar 96 01:23:49 -0800 Received: from jota24.sm.luth.se (d92-lln@jota24.sm.luth.se [130.240.2.64]) by my28.sm.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with ESMTP id KAA11536 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 10:15:39 +0100 (MET) Received: (d92-lln@localhost) by jota24.sm.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id KAA00369; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 10:23:36 +0100 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 10:23:36 +0100 (MET) From: "Lars-]ke Larzon" To: pine mailing list Subject: Swedish characters in header - how? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hello I am having trouble with using swedish characters (=E5=E4=F6) in the header when using pine, even if it works in the message text. I wonder if there is a way to get this to work? =09=09=09=09=09/Lars-=C5ke Larzon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 13 02:09:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21564; Wed, 13 Mar 96 02:09:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21478; Wed, 13 Mar 96 01:51:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21472; Wed, 13 Mar 96 01:51:04 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 13 Mar 1996 09:47:03 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA16543; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 09:47:01 GMT Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 09:47:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Greg Sutherland Cc: Pine ListServ Subject: Re: one more time In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Information on how to subscribe to, and unsubscribe from, the Pine-Info mailing list can be found at the Pine Information Centre: http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/ In particular, to unsubscribe it says you should send a message saying: unsubscribe pine-info to majordomo@cac.washington.edu Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 12 Mar 1996, Greg Sutherland wrote: > Perhaps my previous Subject confused matters. If someone knows what might > be causing my problem, I sure would appreciate a note. > > Also what address do I use to unsubscribe. I'll be going on vacation > sometime and might want to unsubscribe before I go. ;) > > Thanks for your help on either of these questions. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 10:19:46 -0500 (EST) > From: Greg Sutherland > To: Pine ListServ > Subject: Returned mail: Unable to deliver mail (fwd) > > One of my users was trying to send to a large distribution list. He got > Subject: Returned mail: Unable to deliver mail (fwd) > and > 554 ... Unbalanced '<' > > Is there a limit to the size of a distribution list? > > || Greg Sutherland Mail greg@therock.mcg.edu || > || Systems Administrator || > || Medical College of Georgia || > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 13 02:16:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21892; Wed, 13 Mar 96 02:16:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11427; Wed, 13 Mar 96 02:01:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11421; Wed, 13 Mar 96 02:00:59 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 13 Mar 1996 09:58:23 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA19498; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 09:59:04 GMT Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 09:59:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Michiel Perdeck Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine + Pico sources wanted In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To make life easier for people wishing to download source code it is standard practice to bundle up the files into just one: an "archive". On UNIX systems the "tar" program is most commonly used to do this, hence giving rise to the name "a tar archive" to describe the resulting archive. Such archives are usually given a filename ending ".tar" to indicate that it contains a tar'd archive. As these files can be quite large it is also common practice to subsequently compress them. Sometimes the UNIX "compress" program is used; this gives a resulting file with a name anding ".Z". A rival compression program (which often achieves better compression) is GNU zip, or "gzip". Files compressed with gzip have names ending ".gz". If you use anonymous ftp to connect to: ftp.cac.washington.edu and then go down into the "pine" subdirectory you will see a file called pine3.91.tar.Z The is a file containing the compressed (".Z") tar archive (".tar") of the source code to Pine 3.91 ("pine3.91"). In fact the "README" file in this directory also mentions this fact. :-) You will need to transfer this file in *binary* mode (compressed data needs to be transferred in binary mode). Having got the file unto your system you will need to uncompress it, then un-tar it: uncompress pine3.91.tar.Z tar xvf pine3.91.tar This will recreate the directory tree containing the Pine distribution. You will only find binary (executable) versions of Pine if you go down a further level into the "unix-bin" directory, for example. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 12 Mar 1996, Michiel Perdeck wrote: > > What sort of files do I find in the location below? They look like > binaries, or are they somehow compressed? How do I decompress them? Are > these really the sources that I am looking for? I need PICO on an > Olivetti Unix machine. > > Regards, > > Michiel Perdeck (Michiel.Perdeck@cmg.nl) > CMG Finance div. AT > > On Mon, 11 Mar 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > By anonymous ftp from ftp.cac.washington.edu > > > > Cheers, > > > > Mike Brudenell > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > > > On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Michiel Perdeck wrote: > > > > > Where can I find source code for Pine and Pico? > > > > > > Thanks for tips, > > > Michiel > > > > > > -- > > > Michiel Perdeck (Michiel.Perdeck@cmg.nl) > > > CMG Finance div. AT > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 13 02:34:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22750; Wed, 13 Mar 96 02:34:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21884; Wed, 13 Mar 96 02:24:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21878; Wed, 13 Mar 96 02:24:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twnfo-00038FC; Wed, 13 Mar 96 02:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pegboy@gti.net ( ) Subject: Re: Folder File Format? Date: 12 Mar 1996 03:25:14 GMT Message-Id: <4i2qqq$gl9@gti.gti.net> References: <4hv6dk$j11@nntp.interaccess.com> <4i1nr0$eoc@guava.epix.net> If its on a Unix system, you can move them to the mail directory and then read them.... mv mail/ DearOldDad (dad@news.epix.net) wrote: : Richard E. Freeman (rfreeman@psycfrnd.interaccess.com) wrote: : : I mistakenly saved a number of old messages to a unix system file using : : the export command and now find I can't use pine to read them. Can I : : convert this file into a folder file? : Not directly, but you could mail it to yourself. : : What is the best way to store your old messages so that they can be : : retrieved if you need them again? : Use S to (s)ave, not E to (e)xport, they will be saved in a folder name : 'saved-messages', although you can change that. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 13 03:41:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24643; Wed, 13 Mar 96 03:41:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12751; Wed, 13 Mar 96 03:24:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12745; Wed, 13 Mar 96 03:24:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twoat-00038FC; Wed, 13 Mar 96 03:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pww@bnr.ca (Peter Whittaker) Subject: Re: Mail can no enter the "INBOX" folder Date: 8 Mar 1996 19:01:40 GMT Message-Id: <4hq06k$ofj@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> References: <4hpqn7$jt4@larry.cc.emory.edu> In article <4hpqn7$jt4@larry.cc.emory.edu>, Wang Chen wrote: > I deleted about 30 lines in file /usr/mail/ by >accidence. I can not recover it. The big problem for me is : the new mail >can not enter to " INBOX". Can anybody tell me how i can make "INBOX" >work. Most appreciate it. I don't know if this is the best advice, but what the hey: 0. QUIT PINE!!! 1. chmod 600 /usr/mail/ 2. vi /usr/mail/ 3. :w ~/somefile 5. dG 6. :wq 7. chmod 660 /usr/mail/ 8. try pine again This saves the contents of your know mangled INBOX to ~/somefile, so that you can try to recover a few messages from somefile, then removes all entries from INBOX. Be sure to quit pine first. This may also prevent mail from being delivered while you are attempting to toast the box's content (by taking away the system's permissions to write into the file). Note that this will only work on some systems (on others, the mail delivery process runs as root, and root can always write to your files...). In that case, steps 1 and 7 are useless. If /usr/mail is writable by you, consider the following instead 0. QUIT PINE!!! 1. mv /usr/mail/ ~/somefile 2. touch /usr/mail/ 3. try pine again Chances are that you do not have write permission to this directory. pww -- Peter Whittaker [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] X.500 Specialist pww@entrust.com [ http://www.entrust.com ] Nortel Secure Networks Ph: +1 613 765 2064 [ ] P.O. Box 3511, Station C FAX:+1 613 765 3520 [__________________________] Ottawa, Canada, K1Y 4H7 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 13 03:51:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24830; Wed, 13 Mar 96 03:51:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23043; Wed, 13 Mar 96 03:39:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23037; Wed, 13 Mar 96 03:39:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twopf-00038FC; Wed, 13 Mar 96 03:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: duboisy@clem.mscd.edu (Quartz) Subject: Re: How to make a .plan file visible for other??? Date: 8 Mar 1996 20:12:34 GMT Message-Id: <4hq4bi$35a@clem.mscd.edu> References: <4hpeo6$al0@dole.uninett.no> jmeling (jmeling@krs.hia.no) wrote: : I have made a nice .plan file, but Im the only one who can actually see : it by using "finger address". : I have recieved some advices: : chmod 705 .plan : or chmod og+rx .plan : But, nobody of these commands made my .plan file visible for others. : Need new advices! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 13 05:01:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27127; Wed, 13 Mar 96 05:01:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13907; Wed, 13 Mar 96 04:44:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13901; Wed, 13 Mar 96 04:44:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twpus-00038FC; Wed, 13 Mar 96 04:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rasheed Baqai Subject: Re: How to make a .plan file visible for other??? Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 20:50:21 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4hpeo6$al0@dole.uninett.no> On 8 Mar 1996, jmeling wrote: > I have made a nice .plan file, but Im the only one who can actually see > it by using "finger address". > > But, nobody of these commands made my .plan file visible for others. > Need new advices! On my other UNIX accounts, I have ran across this problem. Here are the solutions that I did. First I did the following to my .plan chmod 644 .plan On my directory it looks like the following (does it match yours?) 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 rbaqai ea 387 Feb 17 02:16 .plan Next, there is this weird thing with some fingers it seems. Forcing a long output seems to take care of it. So, to finger me you can try the following things. finger rbaqai@ea.oac.uci.edu (gives you really short response, no plan) To get my plan, you would have to do the following finger -l rbaqai@ea.oac.uci.edu (yes, the plan file now appears!) Note, that is a dash L .. and I think case matters, although I would guess it depends from which OS system you were running. Hope that solves any problems you have. Rasheed --- R a B s a rbaqai@uci.edu h q http://www.ics.uci.edu/~rbaqai/ e a University of California, Irvine-Information & Computer Science e i d From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 13 06:51:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29695; Wed, 13 Mar 96 06:51:59 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15503; Wed, 13 Mar 96 06:39:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from teco01a.teco.uni-karlsruhe.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15482; Wed, 13 Mar 96 06:38:31 -0800 Received: from teco01a by teco01a.teco.uni-karlsruhe.de (8.7.4) id PAA05967; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 15:36:12 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 15:36:12 +0100 (MET) From: Gerhard Heijenga X-Sender: heijenga@teco01a To: Jim Chivas Cc: pine-questions , Jim Chivas Subject: Re: A few questions about pine 3.91 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This means, that your option-settings in pine.conf conflicts with settings in pine.conf.fixed. The options in pine.conf.fixed (normally sets from an administrator) overrules the options in pine.conf (the user configuration-file). Deleting the .pinerc file couldn't help. gerhard > 2. Also when I quit pine I get the message about some of my current > options differ from the system ones. I assume this is only a warning but > I don't think I should get it everytime I quit pine. Can you think of any > reason for this? > > I have deleted my own .pinerc file and therefore pine should pick up a new > copy from /usr/local/lib and therefore there should not be any differences. > > I have included my two files below. > > Thanks > > Jim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 13 07:10:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00130; Wed, 13 Mar 96 07:10:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25763; Wed, 13 Mar 96 07:01:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25757; Wed, 13 Mar 96 07:01:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tws1T-00038UC; Wed, 13 Mar 96 06:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ttl@notorious.sti.fi (Timo Lehtinen) Subject: Using MH folders - how? Date: 12 Mar 1996 14:06:31 GMT Message-Id: <4i40d7$2ms@kuikka.inet.fi> How can I persuade Pine (running on LINUX) to treat ~/Mail as an MH style folder collection. I've tried every imaginable permution using #mh/ in my .pinerc "folder-collections=" line with no success. I am a long time MH user who would like to try out Pine if it only could access my existing MH folder tree ... TIA, Timo From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 13 08:39:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03138; Wed, 13 Mar 96 08:39:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27639; Wed, 13 Mar 96 08:30:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27633; Wed, 13 Mar 96 08:30:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twtR3-00038VC; Wed, 13 Mar 96 08:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: egilk@sn.no (Egil Kvaleberg) Subject: Re: From: stuff for dialup host. Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 12:30:56 GMT Message-Id: <1996Mar13.123056.10803@sn.no> References: Eddie Maddox (root@gold.tc.umn.edu) wrote: > Q#1: > How can I tell pine to use "Eddie Maddox " > for the From: field when composing messages? First things first: Do not normally run your Linux logged in as 'root'. If you don't understand why, or don't care, I suggest you install DOS or whatever. Then, use 'adduser' to create an account 'maddo005'. Use that. > #2: HOW COME THE "DOCUMENTATION" WAS FAILING ME, TOO? Calm down. > Q#3: > How does pine want me to do newsgroup maintenance off-line (without being dialedin)? You know, adding, deleting groups ... the usual. What's the point? If you want to read news offline, you have to set up a newsserver for that. There are various alternatives. Egil -- Email: egilk@sn.no Voice: +47 22523641, 92022780 Fax: +47 22525899 Snail: Egil Kvaleberg, Husebybakken 14A, 0379 Oslo, Norway URL: http://www.sn.no/home/egilk/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 13 08:40:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03254; Wed, 13 Mar 96 08:40:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17332; Wed, 13 Mar 96 08:20:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17325; Wed, 13 Mar 96 08:20:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twtEZ-00038FC; Wed, 13 Mar 96 08:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: michielp@atf.cmg.nl (Michiel Perdeck) Subject: Sorting the address book Message-Id: Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 05:11:13 GMT How do I sort the address book? Thanks, Michiel -- Michiel Perdeck (Michiel.Perdeck@cmg.nl) CMG Finance div. AT From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 13 12:09:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14083; Wed, 13 Mar 96 12:09:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23319; Wed, 13 Mar 96 12:00:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from toolbox.rutgers.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23313; Wed, 13 Mar 96 12:00:16 -0800 Received: (from rgaine@localhost) by toolbox.rutgers.edu (8.6.12+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.6.12) id PAA20227; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 15:00:07 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 15:00:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard C. Gaine III" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: new version of pine? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine has been sitting at 3.91 for a while now. I was wondering if a new version was in the works. If so, what are it's features? Is there an X version of pine aialable? -rg -- Richard Gaine rgaine@nbcs.rutgers.edu System Programmer Rutgers University: Hill Center 129, (908)445-4886 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 13 13:50:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19764; Wed, 13 Mar 96 13:50:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25962; Wed, 13 Mar 96 13:40:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25956; Wed, 13 Mar 96 13:40:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twyGo-00038FC; Wed, 13 Mar 96 13:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roywland@gramercy.ios.com (Roy Land) Subject: SORTING +?+?+? Date: 13 Mar 1996 19:45:04 GMT Message-Id: <4i78k0$205@news2.ios.com> My sorting query is whether it's possible to sort the INBOX, listing those messages addressed to me personally first (indicated by a preceding +), then the mail list stuff, etc... -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> <> Roy W. Land | e-mail: roywland@gramercy.ios.com <> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 13 14:23:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21294; Wed, 13 Mar 96 14:23:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07511; Wed, 13 Mar 96 14:15:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07505; Wed, 13 Mar 96 14:15:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twyoF-00038VC; Wed, 13 Mar 96 14:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Woertz+Rampf Subject: How to change bugs-address? Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 13:42:13 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! I would like to know if it is possible to change the bugs-adress, bugs-fullname... from the default "Pine Developers into the address of my local system-administrator. I tried to do this before by adding it into the pine.conf but it doesn't work . What can I do else/instead or isn't it possible???? Please answer Tanja -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********************************************** *** Tanja Woertz *** *** email:woerramp@smda.medizin.uni-ulm.de *** *** Schule fuer Med. Dokumentation *** ********************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 13 14:24:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21349; Wed, 13 Mar 96 14:24:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07503; Wed, 13 Mar 96 14:15:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07497; Wed, 13 Mar 96 14:15:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twyo2-00038TC; Wed, 13 Mar 96 14:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jussi.torhonen@tsavo.fi (Jussi Torhonen) Subject: Re: FAQ??? Date: 12 Mar 1996 12:15:59 GMT Message-Id: <4i3pu0$1d4@idefix.eunet.fi> References: In article , roseleaf@Prairie.Lakes.com says... > >Sorry to bother everyone... but how can I get the FAQ? http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/index.html Jussi -- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Jussi Torhonen / Internet: jussi.torhonen@tsavo.fi jussi@mpoli.fi Tietosavo Oy / AX.25: OH7DC@OH7RBA.#KUO.FIN.EU P.O.Box 1582 / X.400: C=fi;ADMD=elisa;PRMD=tsnet;O=tietosavo; FIN-70461 KUOPIO / S=torhonen; G=jussi FINLAND / Tel: +358-71-193 231, Fax: +358-71-193 355 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 13 14:26:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21420; Wed, 13 Mar 96 14:26:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26902; Wed, 13 Mar 96 14:15:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26896; Wed, 13 Mar 96 14:15:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0twyo2-00038UC; Wed, 13 Mar 96 14:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Luca Fini Subject: Re: Building pine on Solaris 2.4 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 09:46:55 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 7 Mar 1996, Juan M. Courcoul wrote: > I need to customize and rebuild Pine, to run on a SparcStation with > Solaris 2.4. Doing a 'build sol' is a no-go; pico and imap build fine, > but pine bombs out. Closer inspection of the makefiles and the osdep/os-* > files shows that they're for Solaris 2.2. I've installed pine3.91 under solaris 2.4 with minimum trouble. The only problem was thast I have not the Sun C compiler (pretty costly stuff) and I had to use gcc, while the Makefiles are set up for "cc". My solution was to dig into individual makefiles and find where the CC macro was defined (usually you'll find a commented definition for gcc and you've just to uncomment it). Unfortunately I didn't keep the modified makefile (but that's because I judged that the modification was very little and could be done again very quickly). Cheers, -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ) Luca Fini Tel: +39 55 2752 307 ___ |\ Osservatorio Astrofisico di Arcetri Fax: +39 55 2752 292 / | | |\_ L.go E.Fermi, 5 /----------------------------------------- (___|___//___) 50125 Firenze / WWW: http://www.arcetri.astro.it/~lfini (_) (_) Italia / e-mail: lfini@arcetri.astro.it -----------------------------/-------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 13 15:56:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25115; Wed, 13 Mar 96 15:56:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29421; Wed, 13 Mar 96 15:46:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29415; Wed, 13 Mar 96 15:46:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tx0EY-00038FC; Wed, 13 Mar 96 15:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: spartan@pegasus.rutgers.edu (James Bond) Subject: how do i get pine? Date: 12 Mar 1996 20:11:02 -0500 Message-Id: <4i57b6$4a@pegasus.rutgers.edu> uh.. am I posting this right? I've never posted something before! I want to know where I can get pine software? Thanks!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 13 16:24:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26445; Wed, 13 Mar 96 16:24:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10517; Wed, 13 Mar 96 16:06:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10511; Wed, 13 Mar 96 16:06:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tx0WS-00038FC; Wed, 13 Mar 96 16:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: g053200@spdsjw.gteds.gtenet.com (Stephen J. Weihman) Subject: Re: Address file location? Date: 12 Mar 1996 14:13:07 GMT Message-Id: <4i40pj$811@ceylon.gte.com> References: <4hv662$j11@nntp.interaccess.com> In article <4hv662$j11@nntp.interaccess.com>, rfreeman@psycfrnd.interaccess.com (Richard E. Freeman) writes: >How do you back up the address file? I can't find its physical location >so as to copy it. On Unix systems, it's normally in your home directory. Look for .addressbook and .addressbook.lu there. To verify the location, from the Pine main menu, select Setup/Config. There should be an entry for address-book. -- Use contraceptives on every conceivable occasion. -- ------------------------------------------------------- -- Stephen J. Weihman -*- GTE Data Services -- ------------------------------------------------------- -- The opinions expressed herein are entirely my -- -- own, and are not necessarily those of GTE. -- ------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 13 16:27:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26656; Wed, 13 Mar 96 16:27:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00405; Wed, 13 Mar 96 16:21:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00399; Wed, 13 Mar 96 16:21:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tx0mc-00038FC; Wed, 13 Mar 96 16:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: flavell@v2.ph.gla.ac.uk (Alan J. Flavell) Subject: Re: Anyone use VMS Pine? Message-Id: References: <4gpu7c$qgp@newsbf02.news.aol.com> ,<4h1qma$8n5@mo6.rc.tudelft.nl> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 21:40:57 GMT In article <4h1qma$8n5@mo6.rc.tudelft.nl>, ADRIE@TUDOBM.TUDelft.NL (A.Kooijman) writes: >In flavell@v2.ph.gla.ac.uk writes: > >> In article <4gpu7c$qgp@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, cmrokke@aol.com (Cmrokke) writes: >> > >> >I know there's VMS Pine out there -- Innosoft International sells it, and >> >someone gave me a WWW address where I can get the software myself -- but >> >I managed to compile pine 3.9.1 under vms5.5-4/ucx2.0 >One problem: It only run's under a (readall) privileged account. > >A normal, not privileged user can start pine, see his mailboxes, but cannot >read what's in them :-( Since it works for other people, it would be interesting to know what is the cause of your problem. Since you refer to "Pine 3.9.1" rather than to Yehavi's port or the Innosoft product, it's hard to understand what precisely you are talking about. best regards -- Alan "The squash ladder is now up and running" - departmental notice From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 13 18:07:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00728; Wed, 13 Mar 96 18:07:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13102; Wed, 13 Mar 96 18:01:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13096; Wed, 13 Mar 96 18:01:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tx2JD-00038FC; Wed, 13 Mar 96 17:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nevin Kapur Subject: Re: Sorting the address book In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 00:39:05 GMT On Tue, 12 Mar 1996, Michiel Perdeck wrote: > How do I sort the address book? > > Thanks, Michiel > -- > Michiel Perdeck (Michiel.Perdeck@cmg.nl) > CMG Finance div. AT There are a variety of options available in the configuration menu under address-book-sort-rule: Use the one you find convenient. -- Nevin Kapur * Electrical Engineering * Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay http://ee.iitb.ernet.in/~nevin, nevin@ee.iitb.ernet.in From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 13 18:07:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00748; Wed, 13 Mar 96 18:07:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02552; Wed, 13 Mar 96 18:01:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02546; Wed, 13 Mar 96 18:01:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tx2JD-00038TC; Wed, 13 Mar 96 17:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: g053200@spdsjw.gteds.gtenet.com (Stephen J. Weihman) Subject: Re: Sorting the address book Date: 12 Mar 1996 14:27:44 GMT Message-Id: <4i41l0$811@ceylon.gte.com> References: In article , michielp@atf.cmg.nl (Michiel Perdeck) writes: >How do I sort the address book? >From Pine help: --------------------------- | Sorting the Address book | --------------------------- By default, address book entries are sorted alphabetically on the full name with distribution lists sorted to the end. Sorting can be changed by resetting the address book sort rule in the Pine SETUP CONFIGURATION screen --assuming you have "write" permission for the address book file. Unlike the sorting of folders (which only changes presentation), sorting an address book actually changes the file as it is kept on the computer. For this reason you may not be able to sort a shared or system-wide address book. -- When the going gets tough, the smart get lost. -- ------------------------------------------------------- -- Stephen J. Weihman -*- GTE Data Services -- ------------------------------------------------------- -- The opinions expressed herein are entirely my -- -- own, and are not necessarily those of GTE. -- ------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 14 00:58:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09527; Thu, 14 Mar 96 00:58:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18903; Thu, 14 Mar 96 00:52:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from artemis-gw.edu.uch.gr by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18897; Thu, 14 Mar 96 00:52:26 -0800 Received: from ikaros.edu.uch.gr by artemis.edu.uch.gr (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA23586; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 10:48:00 -0600 Received: by ikaros.edu.uch.gr (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA42716; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 10:43:36 -0600 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 10:43:35 -0600 (CST) From: Grivas Eusevios To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I want to know how i can get rid of some hundreds of messages come to me every day from some people i dont know. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 14 02:47:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11892; Thu, 14 Mar 96 02:47:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20326; Thu, 14 Mar 96 02:42:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20320; Thu, 14 Mar 96 02:42:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txAT0-00038FC; Thu, 14 Mar 96 02:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nevin Kapur Subject: Re: Can I post to a news group ? In-Reply-To: <4i52nb$51v@mark.ucdavis.edu> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <4i52nb$51v@mark.ucdavis.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 19:33:02 GMT On 12 Mar 1996, Death Knight wrote: > I was looking through my news group stuff in the pine folder list and I > know you can reply and do follow-ups but can you post new messages > through pine? > > -- > DN. Sure. Just use the compose command and fill in the name of the newsgroup(s) you want to post to in the header Newsgrps: (You might have to invoke Rich Headers (^R) to do this.) -- Nevin Kapur * Electrical Engineering * Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay http://ee.iitb.ernet.in/~nevin, nevin@ee.iitb.ernet.in From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 14 02:48:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11924; Thu, 14 Mar 96 02:48:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09501; Thu, 14 Mar 96 02:42:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09495; Thu, 14 Mar 96 02:42:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txATB-00038TC; Thu, 14 Mar 96 02:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: master@micro.internexus.net (Laszlo Vecsey) Subject: Creating address book from /etc/passwd Date: 13 Mar 1996 17:23:13 GMT Message-Id: <4i70a1$af@micro.internexus.net> I wrote up the following C++ program real quick to parse /etc/passwd. It creates an addressbook entry for Pine so that you can mass mail all the users on a system! There are only a couple minor bugs with it, if anyone cares to improve it by adding more features or making it more efficient please do so and E-Mail an update to me or post it to the mailing list. // -- CUT HERE // Password 2 Pine (/etc/passwd) // Lester Vecsey [3/13/96] // master@internexus.net // // Converts all the usernames on a system into an addressbook that works with // Pine. Typical usage: // // cat /etc/passwd | p2pine >> .addressbook // // A stream is used (piping to p2pine) so that you can egrep whatever you want // out of /etc/passwd first, giving you more flexibility. #include int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { char string[1024]; int count=20, Length; cout << "Mass\tMass Mailing\t("; while(!cin.eof()) { // Fetch the username from /etc/passwd style input on stdin cin.getline(string, 16, ':'); cin.ignore(1024, '\n'); if (!*string) continue; // Do some formatting for 80 columns, send it to stdout. count+=(Length=strlen(string))+1; if (count < (80-Length)) cout << string << ","; else { cout << endl << " "; count=0; } } cout << ")"; return 0; } // ---- CUT HERE From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 14 05:57:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16474; Thu, 14 Mar 96 05:57:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11968; Thu, 14 Mar 96 05:51:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11962; Thu, 14 Mar 96 05:51:10 -0800 Received: (from brennan@localhost) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA21459 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 08:49:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 8:49:11 EST From: Joe Brennan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Creating address book from /etc/passwd In-Reply-To: Your message of 13 Mar 1996 17:23:13 GMT Message-Id: > so that you can mass mail all the users on a system! Like that would be a good thing to do? Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York brennan@columbia.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 14 06:38:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17364; Thu, 14 Mar 96 06:38:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12419; Thu, 14 Mar 96 06:24:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from boss.zie.pg.gda.pl by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12413; Thu, 14 Mar 96 06:23:51 -0800 Received: by boss (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07654; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 15:20:55 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 15:20:54 +0100 (MET) From: Tomasz Sznajder To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine auto Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How can I have the pine auto-working ? Instantly just after being logged in. Thanks Tomek From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 14 07:28:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18796; Thu, 14 Mar 96 07:28:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13008; Thu, 14 Mar 96 07:08:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Farstar.secapl.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13002; Thu, 14 Mar 96 07:08:17 -0800 Received: from fozzie.secapl.com (Fozzie.secapl.com [192.131.46.3]) by Farstar (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA66330; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 09:07:04 -0600 Received: by fozzie.secapl.com id AA36765 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Thu, 14 Mar 1996 10:08:55 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 10:08:46 -0500 (EST) From: Tony Iannotti To: Joe Brennan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Creating address book from /etc/passwd In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII also, no reason to abuse pine for this when many systems have a cute oneliner script called mall: mail `cut -f1 -d: /etc/passwd` On Thu, 14 Mar 1996, Joe Brennan wrote: > > so that you can mass mail all the users on a system! > > Like that would be a good thing to do? > > Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems > Columbia University in the City of New York > brennan@columbia.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 14 08:35:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21466; Thu, 14 Mar 96 08:35:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14209; Thu, 14 Mar 96 08:08:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14203; Thu, 14 Mar 96 08:08:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txFWH-00038FC; Thu, 14 Mar 96 08:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Pine --> elm conversion? Date: 13 Mar 1996 17:30:26 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4hervp$498@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au> <4hk6m7$duh@dns1.datlog.co.uk> <4hsv33$goi@nntp.Stanford.EDU> ferg@thanatos.stanford.edu (Mark Ferguson) writes: >I am switching from pine to elm and need to convert my addressbook. I'm curious why you are switching. What elm features convinced you to switch? Thanks, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 14 09:35:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24462; Thu, 14 Mar 96 09:35:03 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27153; Thu, 14 Mar 96 09:18:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27147; Thu, 14 Mar 96 09:18:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txGc8-00038FC; Thu, 14 Mar 96 09:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ferg@thanatos.stanford.edu (Mark Ferguson) Subject: Re: Pine --> elm conversion? Date: 14 Mar 1996 04:29:22 GMT Message-Id: <4i87b2$hvp@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <4hervp$498@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au> In-Reply-To: In article , Nancy McGough writes: >ferg@thanatos.stanford.edu (Mark Ferguson) writes: >>I am switching from pine to elm and need to convert my addressbook. > >I'm curious why you are switching. What elm features >convinced you to switch? > >Thanks, >Nancy > Well, I run linux on my box at home, and the startup time for pine was beginning to annoy me. elm starts faster, and the executable is less than 40% of the size of pine (naturally, elm doesn't include an editor). Choosing vi as my default editor, (actually elvis), the executable is still less than 50% as large and *much* faster. I'm actually tempted to switch my editor to pico to ease my transition. I'll admit that pine is easier to use for the new user, but elm seems to have all the features that I used in pine, and I'm not really a new user anymore. So the only feature that convinced me to switch was speed. Both utilities are easy to use, have aliasing, and allow attachments as well as folder handling. Now that I'm aware of filtering, this may be a feature I use that is not an option (that I'm aware of) that pine has. -- Mark Ferguson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 14 10:42:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27212; Thu, 14 Mar 96 10:42:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28817; Thu, 14 Mar 96 10:26:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from qcunix1.qc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28810; Thu, 14 Mar 96 10:26:13 -0800 Received: by qcunix1.acc.qc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/26Sep95-0622PM) id AA07087; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 13:27:56 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 13:27:55 -0500 (EST) From: GANI MOHAMMED To: pine info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII THIS IS MOHAMMED GANI. FROM QUEENS COLLEGE OF NEW YORK. I NEED SOME HELP WITH THE COMMAND OF LYNX INETERNET. I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU WOULD MAIL ME THE MESSAGE THAT I CAN GET IN THE INTERNET. SINCERELY MOHAMMED GANI From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 14 11:10:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28472; Thu, 14 Mar 96 11:10:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19041; Thu, 14 Mar 96 11:03:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from indy-les.iimtemix.unam.mx by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19027; Thu, 14 Mar 96 11:03:04 -0800 Received: by indy-les.iimtemix.unam.mx (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) for pine-info@cac.washington.edu id NAA23908; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 13:02:49 -0800 From: "Luz Abril Torres Mendez" Message-Id: <9603141302.ZM23906@indy-les.iimtemix.unam.mx> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 13:02:48 -0800 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 6apr95 MediaMail) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How do I get into Newsgroups? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi everybody!! I'm using Pine 3.91 and I would like to belong to some Newsgroups (I have from Netscape) but I still have not found the way for do that. Please can someone help me? Thanks in advance. Luz Abril. . ........... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 14 11:12:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28554; Thu, 14 Mar 96 11:12:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00174; Thu, 14 Mar 96 11:05:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from indy-les.iimtemix.unam.mx by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00168; Thu, 14 Mar 96 11:05:23 -0800 Received: by indy-les.iimtemix.unam.mx (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) for pine-info@cac.washington.edu id NAA23917; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 13:04:59 -0800 From: "Luz Abril Torres Mendez" Message-Id: <9603141304.ZM23915@indy-les.iimtemix.unam.mx> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 13:04:59 -0800 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 6apr95 MediaMail) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How do I get into Newsgroups? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi everybody!! I'm using Pine 3.91 and I would like to belong to some Newsgroups (I have from Netscape) but I still have not found the way for do that. Please can someone help me? Thanks in advance. Luz Abril. ............ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 14 12:36:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02439; Thu, 14 Mar 96 12:36:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21383; Thu, 14 Mar 96 12:24:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21377; Thu, 14 Mar 96 12:24:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txJUy-00038FC; Thu, 14 Mar 96 12:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: philip@gn.apc.org (Philip) Subject: Pine 3.91 SCO with MMDF Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 10:33:45 GMT Message-Id: <4i6516$otu@gn2.gn.apc.org> I am trying to use Pine 3.91 on SCO Unix with MMDF as the mail transport. The rouble is, whenever Pine tries to send mail, i get a "no valid author" message. Turns out that this is from MMDF's "submit" command that queues mail. I can get the sam problem if i call /usr/lib/sendmail _without_ the -f sender flag. Pine doesn't add the -f flag when it invokes sendmail, because it assumes that this is a regular sendmail which can find the sender from the From: header. It seems that this sendmail is part of MMDF, not a regular sendmail. I could get round this if either i could get submit or /usr/lib/sendmail to emulate the -f flaG, or, if i could get Pine to add the -f flag. Doesn anyone out therE have expirience with this? Philip GreenNet From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 14 12:55:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03206; Thu, 14 Mar 96 12:55:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21806; Thu, 14 Mar 96 12:39:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21800; Thu, 14 Mar 96 12:39:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txJml-00038TC; Thu, 14 Mar 96 12:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ncwa@netserv.chula.ac.th (National Commission on Women's Affairs) Subject: Help! Exporting files Date: 14 Mar 1996 18:46:03 GMT Message-Id: <4i9phb$iun@enterprise.netserv.chula.ac.th> Help! I am a relatively new user of the internet and am having problems exporting plain text files from Pine. I am working in a netserv environment, from a LAN computer at my office, and according to the program which I use to dial the fileserver the home directory is c:\aw. But when I tell the machine to export the plain text file and I think it should go to that directory it doesn't, and in fact searches everywhere I can think of fail to locate the file. Can anyone suggest where the file is going, or how I could ensure I know where it is going? Help would be greatly appreciated! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 14 12:56:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03261; Thu, 14 Mar 96 12:56:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02912; Thu, 14 Mar 96 12:39:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02906; Thu, 14 Mar 96 12:39:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txJmk-00038FC; Thu, 14 Mar 96 12:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: michielp@atf.cmg.nl (Michiel Perdeck) Subject: How to watch a thread in tin? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 20:24:32 GMT I am using the Usenet program tin on my unix mailgate system. When I post a message in a group and I want to look the next day if there are any reactions (follow-up's) yet, I have to remember the subject text in order to search the thread. That is a nuissance, I think. Isn't there a way to automatically keep track of certain threads and be warned if a follow-up has been posted on one of your contributions? I know this can be done in some Windows newsreaders but can it be done with tin also? Regards, Michiel -- Michiel Perdeck (Michiel.Perdeck@cmg.nl) CMG Finance div. AT From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 14 13:38:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05443; Thu, 14 Mar 96 13:38:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22858; Thu, 14 Mar 96 13:19:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from husc.harvard.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22852; Thu, 14 Mar 96 13:19:53 -0800 Received: from scws28.harvard.edu by husc.harvard.edu with ESMTP id QAA07880 Received: by scws28.harvard.edu with id QAA00822 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 16:19:41 -0500 (EST) From: Peronet Despeignes To: Philip Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 SCO with MMDF In-Reply-To: <4i6516$otu@gn2.gn.apc.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do you suppress the appearance of the aliases of adresses when sending mail to a large group of people. Perry D. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 14 14:00:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06529; Thu, 14 Mar 96 14:00:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23366; Thu, 14 Mar 96 13:37:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from fermat.foe.calpoly.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23359; Thu, 14 Mar 96 13:37:18 -0800 Received: by fermat.foe.calpoly.edu (NX5.67c/NX3.0M) id AA22929; Thu, 14 Mar 96 13:36:59 -0800 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 13:36:59 -0800 From: Jim Delany Message-Id: <9603142136.AA22929@fermat.foe.calpoly.edu> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.87.1) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.87.1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: ^L on a NeXT I'm running Pine 3.88 under NeXTSTEP 3.0 on a NeXTstation. The only problem I've encountered is in fetching new mail before Pine does it's regular update every 2.5 minutes. The documentation says that this can be done by either (a) going to the bottom of the index and hitting N five times (this works) or (b) using CONTROL-L. Well, ^L DOES refresh the screen, as expected, but it doesn't update the index. Has anyone had any experience with this before? Can you help me get ^L to work as advertised? By the way, here are my stty settings... fermat> stty everything new tty, speed 9600 baud, 24 rows, 80 columns even odd -raw -nl echo -lcase -tandem -tabs -cbreak crt: (crtbs crterase crtkill ctlecho) -tostop -eucbksp -flusho -mdmbuf -litout pass8 -nohang pass8out pendin decctlq -noflsh -extproc erase kill werase rprnt flush lnext susp intr quit stop eof ^? ^U ^W ^R ^F ^V ^Z/^Y ^C ^\ ^S/^Q ^D Thanks in advance Jim --- jdelany@calpoly.edu http://www.calpoly.edu/~jdelany Jim Delany, Professor phone (805) 756-1674 Mathematics Department fax (805) 756-6537 Cal Poly State University home (805) 481-0454 San Luis Obispo CA 93407 France (33) 65.37.68.61 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 14 14:48:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08510; Thu, 14 Mar 96 14:48:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05702; Thu, 14 Mar 96 14:29:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05696; Thu, 14 Mar 96 14:29:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txLW6-00038FC; Thu, 14 Mar 96 14:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@guava.epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: How to watch a thread in tin? Date: 14 Mar 1996 21:12:18 GMT Message-Id: <4ia23i$bmj@guava.epix.net> References: Michiel Perdeck (michielp@atf.cmg.nl) wrote: : I am using the Usenet program tin on my unix mailgate system. When I post : a message in a group and I want to look the next day if there are any : reactions (follow-up's) yet, I have to remember the subject text in order : to search the thread. That is a nuissance, I think. Isn't there a way to : automatically keep track of certain threads and be warned if a follow-up : has been posted on one of your contributions? I know this can be done in : some Windows newsreaders but can it be done with tin also? Easiest way is probably to search by author, with your name (michielp) as the author. In TIN type 'a' to search by author. If you don't remember what group(s) you posted to, type W (shift + w) to get a list of your posts. Hope this helps. BYE. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 14 14:54:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08717; Thu, 14 Mar 96 14:54:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06305; Thu, 14 Mar 96 14:46:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs.stritch.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06299; Thu, 14 Mar 96 14:46:26 -0800 Received: by acs.stritch.edu; id AA28253; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 16:46:54 -0600 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 16:46:53 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Esten To: National Commission on Women's Affairs Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help! Exporting files In-Reply-To: <4i9phb$iun@enterprise.netserv.chula.ac.th> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When you export a file, it becomes a plain text file in the home directory wherever the pine program is, not your local hard drive. You must then use a modem transfer program to move it from the server to your local machine. An example. I export a messsage, naming it test.txt I leave pine and from my unix shell prompt type: sz test.txt This calls up the zmodem program on both commputers to transfer the file to my local hard drive. Most everyone uses zmodem these days, although you may find that you need to use xmodem, kermit, or something else depending on what your providers offers. Jim Jim Esten (temporarily between .sigs) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 14 16:17:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11225; Thu, 14 Mar 96 16:17:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08225; Thu, 14 Mar 96 16:07:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from indy-les.iimtemix.unam.mx by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08211; Thu, 14 Mar 96 16:06:58 -0800 Received: by indy-les.iimtemix.unam.mx (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) for pine-info@cac.washington.edu id SAA24969; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 18:06:42 -0800 From: "Luz Abril Torres Mendez" Message-Id: <9603141806.ZM24967@indy-les.iimtemix.unam.mx> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 18:06:41 -0800 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 6apr95 MediaMail) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help about Newsgroups in Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii What do I write in the news-collection field in the configuration of pine? I can get any newsgroups, I am wondering if Pine could do that. Please somebody answer me. Abril. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 14 18:35:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16429; Thu, 14 Mar 96 18:35:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11257; Thu, 14 Mar 96 18:31:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cord.iupui.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11251; Thu, 14 Mar 96 18:31:31 -0800 Received: (from daderry@localhost) by cord.iupui.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) id VAA00128; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 21:30:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 21:30:35 -0500 (EST) From: Dave To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help!!! (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="70681381-126398554-826856354=:28816" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --70681381-126398554-826856354=:28816 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: See attached and PLEASE HELP!!! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 21:19:14 -0500 (EST) From: Dave To: Pine Developers Subject: help!!! I am not reporting a bug. Just trying to find out how to operate this system through DOS. I cannot run Windows. THe local tech support is non existant. THey do not know anything about DOS, they freely admit that and say they ony lknow WIndows. They are no help. I want to know how to send mail to the htp:///www stuff? How is the best way to run this program with DOS? Why is this software so user UNFRIENDLY? Why cant I modify the setup? Why is there no instructions on how to modify the setup? Why is setup an option, when I cannot change my persoannel setup? Please help!!!!! --70681381-126398554-826856354=:28816 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = daderry, full = home = /student2/daderry home_dir= /student2/daderry hostname= cord localdom= cord userdom= NULL maildom= cord cur_cntxt= mail/[] cur_fldr= saved-messages actual mbox= /student2/daderry/mail/saved-messages msgmap: tot=6, cur=5, del=3, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival actual inbox= /usr/mail/daderry inbox map: tot=2, cur=2, del=2, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival term type=vt100, ttyname=/dev/ttyp1, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Dave user-id : daderry inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : mail/[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : Dave address-book : .addressbook feature-list : auto-move-read-msgs : enable-flag-cmd saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lp last-time-prune-ques : 96.3 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/student2/daderry/.pinerc) ======= personal-name : Dave signature-file : Dave feature-list : auto-move-read-msgs : enable-flag-cmd last-time-prune-ques : 96.3 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lp bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-bounce-cmd enable-flag-cmd no-enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface no-signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys --70681381-126398554-826856354=:28816-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 14 18:37:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16490; Thu, 14 Mar 96 18:37:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29922; Thu, 14 Mar 96 18:35:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29914; Thu, 14 Mar 96 18:35:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txPIv-00038FC; Thu, 14 Mar 96 18:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: E-mail spam adverts Date: 15 Mar 1996 01:21:16 GMT Message-Id: <4iagmc$bfi@fu-berlin.de> References: <9603141633.AA06919@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) writes: >|> What if a rule kills mails with *vital* info for a user? > Too bad for whoever sends mail from a banned site ! So when the sys admin sees a spam from aol, delphi, netcom or whatever then he will ban *all* emails from that site, right? Of course you never get any emails from them, so why bother? > The most efficient way would be to detect them at sendmail level and send to > /dev/null, not to store them into each user's mailbox, and having the user > agent (Pine) discarding them. What if an user does not use Pine (here e.g. > there is a group of people which use SUn's mailtool) ? First step would be to make everyone use the same mail program. But I am sure Bill gates will take care of that. Next step is to force everybody to send their mail to whitehouse.gov. Then the president himself can select what's good for you to read! After all he signed the damn CDa thing, right? Tell you what - send *all* mail to /dev/null! Bingo - no more mail problems! In Italy, of course, they have the Mafia to do the killing... Sven -- I ran out of smileys today. Waiting for a new pack to arrive soon... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 14 18:42:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16611; Thu, 14 Mar 96 18:42:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11418; Thu, 14 Mar 96 18:40:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11412; Thu, 14 Mar 96 18:40:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txPMO-00038FC; Thu, 14 Mar 96 18:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: etb1@Axe.Humboldt.edu (Eric Brower) Subject: [Q] Pine as UNIX login shell? Date: 14 Mar 1996 16:24:22 GMT Message-Id: <4i9h7m$hqv@nuke.csu.net> I am researching the possibility of using Pine as a login shell for system users. Naturally, I am concerned with a few features of Pine. Does anyone have an example of a pine.conf.fixed file from a UNIX system? In particular, I want to be sure that users cannot suspend the process, shell-out or modify their environment. As well, users should not be able to modify many of the configuration items... Any experiences would be helpful... Thanks for your time! Eric From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 14 21:34:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20469; Thu, 14 Mar 96 21:34:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02401; Thu, 14 Mar 96 21:25:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02395; Thu, 14 Mar 96 21:25:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txRzu-00038FC; Thu, 14 Mar 96 21:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: E-mail spam adverts Date: 13 Mar 1996 14:30:05 GMT Message-Id: <4i6m5d$gt7@fu-berlin.de> References: <4hiegf$5el@fu-berlin.de> paz@world.std.com (Philip A Zimmermann) writes: >The intent is to base the spamfile contents upon identifying the spam's source >address and/or the subject line. The system administrator doesn't read your >email. The system administrator gets spammed. Since the sysadmin is likely to >be reading their mail (and hence the spam) before the average user logs on and >gets the same spam, the system administrator uses a function similar to `Take >Address' (currently in Pine), which appends the From: address and/or the >Subject: line to the spamfile. The spamfile is written to only by the >sysadmin. It gets read by Pine each time a user launches Pine, *IF* the user >has their Pine-config file spam setting set to "spam off". So only the sys admin gets to edit the spam file? And he has to read the mail and update the spam file before other copies hit the users' mailboxes? Don't you know that this means *immediate* action? You are imposing the task of constant email scanning upon the sys admin. Don't you think he has enough email to read and things to take care of? Btw, you still didn't give a solution to possible errors in the spamfile. What if a rule kills mails with *vital* info for a user? Don't you think that a person can take care of his own mailbox? >If you've used dmail, you'll recognize that I'm not suggesting anything new, >just something more convenient for the average user. So dmail has it. So WHAT? "Proof by example"? >> (I just hope this isn't the PGP Zimmermann .. ;-) >Well, you figure it out. You're the Anti-Zimmermann, right? ;-) Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 15 04:26:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28764; Fri, 15 Mar 96 04:26:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19088; Fri, 15 Mar 96 04:17:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Farstar.secapl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19082; Fri, 15 Mar 96 04:17:39 -0800 Received: from fozzie.secapl.com (Fozzie.secapl.com [192.131.46.3]) by Farstar (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id GAA93384; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 06:16:25 -0600 Received: by fozzie.secapl.com id AA84667 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Fri, 15 Mar 1996 07:18:20 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 07:18:15 -0500 (EST) From: Tony Iannotti To: Eric Brower Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Q] Pine as UNIX login shell? In-Reply-To: <4i9h7m$hqv@nuke.csu.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We use a restricted version of pine this way, though I recompiled it to use a different file for the fixed config, as we have both clients and staff using pine on the same machine. (Silly, I know, but "economical") Disable suspend, Pipe-to-command, and alternate editors, and you should be OK, I think. I also set it such that they cannot alter their configs at all, though that may be too draconian. ;-) On 14 Mar 1996, Eric Brower wrote: > I am researching the possibility of using Pine as a login shell for system > users. Naturally, I am concerned with a few features of Pine. > > Does anyone have an example of a pine.conf.fixed file from a UNIX > system? In particular, I want to be sure that users cannot suspend > the process, shell-out or modify their environment. As well, users > should not be able to modify many of the configuration items... > > Any experiences would be helpful... > > Thanks for your time! > Eric > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 15 05:42:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00167; Fri, 15 Mar 96 05:42:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08313; Fri, 15 Mar 96 05:32:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from soc.unl.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08303; Fri, 15 Mar 96 05:32:42 -0800 Received: by soc.unl.ac.uk (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA13783; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 13:30:26 GMT Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 13:30:25 +0000 (GMT) From: Clifford Wesley Fulford X-Sender: cwf@jamshyd.unl.ac.uk To: "Aaron M. Scarisbrick" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Spell checking with pine In-Reply-To: <4i2oii$amc@news.xmission.com> Message-Id: Return-Read-To: cwf@soc.unl.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Aaron You can use ispell within the editor by going to (S)etup (C)config from the main menu and selecting 'enable_alternate_editor_cmd'. If you never want to use any other commands you can then set 'editor' to 'ispell'. Now the command ^_ when composing will run ispell. If you want to run other commands on your composition eg vi then leave 'editor' blank and the command ^_ will prompt you with the value of VISUAL (or EDITOR I'm not exactly sure which of the top of my head) and you can overwrite this with 'ispell'. On 12 Mar 1996, Aaron M. Scarisbrick wrote: > Paul L Schumann (schumann@krypton.mankato.msus.edu) wrote: > : Most Unix systems have a program called ispell, which is a good, > : interactive spell checker program that allows one to add words to a > : custom dictionary. The only "trick" is to get Pine to use ispell. > Yes, I spent a fair amount of time porting ispell to Pyramid's DC/OSx, and > found out the hard way that there is no easy way (that is obvious to me) to > integrate ispell with pine's editor, pico. The only way I can see is by > someone hacking up spell.c in pico's source to write out to a temp file as > it normally does, then pass that file as an argument to ispell, and then > re-read the file after ispell exits. > > Unfortunately this is just beyond the scope of my skills just just now, but > I can recognize what exactly needs to change, and where to change it. If > somebody out there has already been this route, I'd appreciate whatever help > they would be willing to lend, and/or their diff against spell.c ;-) > > Thanks in advance, > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Aaron M. Scarisbrick The smoker you drink, the player you get. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > aaron@xmission.com http://www.xmission.com/~aaron > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Clifford W Fulford University of North London ISS-UNIX development E-mail: Clifford@soc.unl.ac.uk Clifford@compulink.co.uk C.Fulford@unl.ac.uk Telephone: 0171-607-2789 x 7314. Home 0181-986-5239 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 15 10:29:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10309; Fri, 15 Mar 96 10:29:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26346; Fri, 15 Mar 96 10:22:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26340; Fri, 15 Mar 96 10:22:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txe5z-00038FC; Fri, 15 Mar 96 10:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: xkkiass@pudel35 (Ingemar Assarsjo B/DNT 82550 2741) Subject: Re: Swedish characters in header - how? Date: 14 Mar 1996 18:25:46 GMT Message-Id: <4i9obb$2l8@erinews.ericsson.se> References: Lars-]ke Larzon (d92-lln@sm.luth.se) wrote: : Hello : I am having trouble with using swedish characters (=E5=E4=F6) in the header : when using pine, even if it works in the message text. I wonder if there : is a way to get this to work? : =09=09=09=09=09/Lars-=C5ke Larzon I have a work around: Go into the message body and enter the subject line. Cut it with ^K and paste it into the subject line with ^U You don't get =E5=E4=F6 in the subject line. You get the 8-bit characters. So the receiver can't read it if he has a different character set. /Ingemar From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 15 10:47:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11250; Fri, 15 Mar 96 10:47:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14558; Fri, 15 Mar 96 10:32:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14552; Fri, 15 Mar 96 10:32:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txeHb-00038FC; Fri, 15 Mar 96 10:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) Subject: Accessing values in PINE variables??? Date: 14 Mar 1996 19:25:29 GMT Message-Id: <4i9rr9$46j@fcnews.fc.hp.com> I've just edited my .pinerc file to format printing with the Y command. printer=x2 | lp -onb I would like to enhance this with name and date variables based on the subject or source and the value shown for "Date". Something like printer=x2 -t "$DATE $SUBJECT" | lp -onb This is to put helpful information in the header (rather than "piped"). Do variables such as $DATE or $SUBJECT exist in PINE at runtime? -DAvid P.S. Anybody know of an undocumented way to fill the Date field in x2 (on HP-UX 9.07)? -- + DAVID MULLANEY Mailstop #99, Loctn. 1UN5 (970) 229-7629 + + > Net: mullaney@fc.hp.com http://hpfcdn/ -*- fax 2838 + + > Software Engineer -- Ignition/UDL/OSSD /\/\/\ + + > Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, Colorado _-/\^^/ \ + From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 15 13:14:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17783; Fri, 15 Mar 96 13:14:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00127; Fri, 15 Mar 96 13:03:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00121; Fri, 15 Mar 96 13:03:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txgZk-00038FC; Fri, 15 Mar 96 12:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: E-mail spam adverts Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 17:33:09 +0100 Message-Id: <9603141633.AA06919@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> In article <4i6m5d$gt7@fu-berlin.de>, Sven Guckes write: |> paz@world.std.com (Philip A Zimmermann) writes: |> >The intent is to base the spamfile contents upon identifying the spam's source |> >address and/or the subject line. The system administrator doesn't read your |> >email. The system administrator gets spammed. Since the sysadmin is likely to [...] |> So only the sys admin gets to edit the spam file? And he has to read the mail |> and update the spam file before other copies hit the users' mailboxes? |> Don't you know that this means *immediate* action? Unfortunately yes. There is nothing one can do against the first spam. But one can ban any subsequent mail from the same site ! That would be enough ! |> What if a rule kills mails with *vital* info for a user? Too bad for whoever sends mail from a banned site ! |> You are imposing the task of constant email scanning upon the sys admin. |> Don't you think he has enough email to read and things to take care of? |> Don't you think that a person can take care of his own mailbox? Well, the job is best done once for everybody ! As user, and as surrogate system scapegoat (here "unicuique system manager fortunae suae"), I'd like to prevent spams to enter my system. The most efficient way would be to detect them at sendmail level and send to /dev/null, not to store them into each user's mailbox, and having the user agent (Pine) discarding them. What if an user does not use Pine (here e.g. there is a group of people which use SUn's mailtool) ? Can this "spam ban" be implemented at sendmail level ? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- For more info : http://www.ifctr.mi.cnr.it/~lucio/personal.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 15 15:47:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23160; Fri, 15 Mar 96 15:47:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21911; Fri, 15 Mar 96 15:43:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21905; Fri, 15 Mar 96 15:43:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txj4q-00038FC; Fri, 15 Mar 96 15:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Pine -> Elm switch Date: 14 Mar 1996 19:06:51 GMT Message-Id: <4i9qob$2lb@fu-berlin.de> References: <4hervp$498@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au> <4hk6m7$duh@dns1.datlog.co.uk> <4hsv33$goi@nntp.stanford.edu> <4i87b2$hvp@nntp.Stanford.EDU> ferg@thanatos.stanford.edu (Mark Ferguson) writes: >naturally, elm doesn't include an editor. *ehem* ELM does have an editor - "builtin". >Choosing vi as my default editor, (actually elvis), the executable is still >less than 50% as large and *much* faster. I'm actually tempted to switch my >editor to pico to ease my transition. pico? ugh. Sure, it 's simple to use, but too simple to be of much use. If you already use vi - why not try vim? It has a help command (:help), it allows you to split the window (:split) it lets you undo everything unto the first change (and redo if you have gone to far back), you can select text by highlighting it and it can reformat text for you (just press 'Q' after selecting the text). And it has lots more! :-) Read about vim on page http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/vim/ >Now that I'm aware of filtering, this may be a feature I use that is not an >option (that I'm aware of) that pine has. Well, filters are independent of the mailers you use. You can actually use ELM's filter and yet use Pine. Although not as simple I can recommend "procmail" as a filter which lets you do all the stuff that is too complicated for "filter". Sven Cc: ferg@thanatos.stanford.edu (Mark Ferguson) -- [960311] ELM - the "Easy Learn Mail" program. Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm For more info see the "ELM Pages": http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ Latest ELM release: ELM2.4PL25 [951204] NEW! Latest ELM alpha: ELM2.5a08 [950908] Alpha9 "real soon now." Latest ELMPGP patch: ELMPGP3 [950531] "Supported". Latest ELMME+ patch: ELM2.4PL24ME8b [951012] ELMME continued as ELMME+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 15 16:37:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24394; Fri, 15 Mar 96 16:37:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05057; Fri, 15 Mar 96 16:33:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05051; Fri, 15 Mar 96 16:33:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txjth-00038FC; Fri, 15 Mar 96 16:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ernest Vosti Subject: "Bogus entry in new cache list" Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 15:21:18 +0000 Message-Id: <31498AEE.6CD5@llnl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone have any ideas about sudden crashes of Pine 3.91 on SunOS 4.1.4 with the error message: Bug in Pine detected: "Bogus entry in new cache list". Exiting pine. These crashes occur sometimes when Pine is running, but I'm not interacting with it at all. It'll be running, I'll go away for awhile and when I come back, it's dead. Any ideas would be appreciated. Ernie From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 15 18:18:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27654; Fri, 15 Mar 96 18:18:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25028; Fri, 15 Mar 96 18:13:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jaring.my by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25022; Fri, 15 Mar 96 18:13:32 -0800 Received: from upm.edu.my (scc.upm.edu.my [202.184.17.1]) by jaring.my (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA21326 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 10:12:38 +0800 (MYT) Received: from sstud (stud.upm.edu.my) by upm.edu.my (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA21338; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 10:13:47 -0800 Received: by sstud (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA03811; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 10:13:53 -0800 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 10:13:52 -0800 (GMT) From: Chai Sau San To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How to get into the IRC with pine,Please ??? THank a lot. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 15 19:41:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29077; Fri, 15 Mar 96 19:41:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26047; Fri, 15 Mar 96 19:37:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cln.etc.bc.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26041; Fri, 15 Mar 96 19:37:53 -0800 Received: by cln.etc.bc.ca for pine-info@cac.washington.edu (4.1/1.39) id AA18153; Fri, 15 Mar 96 19:37:34 PST Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 19:37:34 -0800 (PST) From: John Langston Subject: Full disk? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I receive the following message at the bottom of my screen everytime I open the Pine system. I wonder if someone can explain what is happening and what I can do about it. The message: [Error saving configuration in file "/home/jlangsto/.pinerc": Disk quota excee...] I can't find such a file. What am I doing wrong? John Langston, Mission, B.C., Canada From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 15 20:15:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29690; Fri, 15 Mar 96 20:15:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26481; Fri, 15 Mar 96 20:13:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26475; Fri, 15 Mar 96 20:13:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txnKo-00038TC; Fri, 15 Mar 96 20:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hillary@netaxs.com (Hillary Gorman) Subject: Re: re Pine and POP3 - help Date: 14 Mar 1996 22:31:30 GMT Message-Id: <4ia6o2$7ui@netaxs.com> References: <4hp4po$b6t@sun4.bham.ac.uk> Neil Ambrose (nxa585@novell2.bham.ac.uk) wrote: : Dear all, : I have a problem, can you get Pine to read mail from a POP : server????? I read some of the articles on the newsgroup and You want popclient (a unix program) to download your mail and add it to your spool. Then you can use pine to read your mail from that popserver. You can make it a cron job, and have popclient check your mail every so often. Check with the admin of your unix machine about the availability of popclient. hillary From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 15 20:16:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29722; Fri, 15 Mar 96 20:16:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08433; Fri, 15 Mar 96 20:13:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08427; Fri, 15 Mar 96 20:13:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txnKo-00038UC; Fri, 15 Mar 96 20:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Swedish characters in header - how? Date: 14 Mar 1996 22:50:09 GMT Message-Id: <4ia7r1$37b@news.ysu.edu> References: In a previous article, d92-lln@sm.luth.se ("Lars-]ke Larzon") says: >I am having trouble with using swedish characters (=E5=E4=F6) in the header >when using pine, even if it works in the message text. I wonder if there >is a way to get this to work? Okay, so my newsreader doesn't recognize MIME. But that's better in my opinion than reading the news locally which is delayed by five days... Anyway, to answer your question, yes, Pine3.92 will work properly (or maybe even perfectly ;-) for non-ASCII headers. Hold your breath, because it will be coming pretty soon -- can't say for sure when, but trust me, it will be soon, if not soon enough... -- Barry Bouwsma, Intanet an' Netwerkin' gooru-type kind o' nerd Radio Praha, Cesky Rozhlas 7; Vinohradska 12; CZ-120 99 Praha 2; Czechistan __________http://www.radio.cz for info from Radio Prague This sig is five lines long. Check your newsreader configuration if you do not From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 15 20:16:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29747; Fri, 15 Mar 96 20:16:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08425; Fri, 15 Mar 96 20:13:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08419; Fri, 15 Mar 96 20:13:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txnKn-00038FC; Fri, 15 Mar 96 20:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: DJRambo Subject: Pine and News Navigating Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 23:23:54 EST Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII While viewing a list of newsgroups in Pine I hit enter to go to a listing of postings or messages (the index). Then the right arrow to read the desired posting. I can handle that. However while in the index how do I get back to the newsgroups listing? If this was a html document I would just hit the left arrow, but Pine refuses to understand that key at that particular time. These little things confuse me. Daniel J. Rambo Cole Service Bldg. Oxford, Ohio 45056 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 15 21:17:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00749; Fri, 15 Mar 96 21:17:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27211; Fri, 15 Mar 96 21:13:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27205; Fri, 15 Mar 96 21:13:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txoEp-00038FC; Fri, 15 Mar 96 21:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ckk@uchicago.edu (Chris Koenigsberg) Subject: Re: Content-length header val and embedded From lines Message-Id: <4icvr1$2q9@ornette.uchicago.edu> References: Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 23:52:01 GMT You are talking about the "mbox" or "Bezerkeley" file format. The "mtext" or "tenex" file format encodes the length of a message, into the flags on the first line. Escaping embedded "From" lines is the responsibility of the local delivery agent (/bin/mail, procmail, etc.) which is appending the incoming message to a mail spool file. Sendmail hands the LDA a chunk of ascii bytes as one message, and the LDA escapes all non-initial "From" lines. If it won't do that, then either you are giving it the wrong flags, or else it is broken :-) (are we starting an argument yet, is Solaris /usr/lib/mail.local broken? :-) What if your imapd (or popper, whatever) adds a new header to store some status flags, after you've read a message; do you expect it to compute a new Content-Length and edit the old Content-Length header? (similarly how MH will delete the "Unix From" line and replace it with a "Return-Path" line, also altering the content length) If the mailbox is in mtext format, the new status flags go into the same header line as the content length, which IS recomputed and updated properly by the imapd. But if the mailbox is in mbox Berzerkeley format, the only thing guaranteed is that there will be a leading Unix From line. Nay, my humble opinion is that Content-Length headers, in mbox format files, are a curious abomination which should be stomped out :-) Chris Koenigsberg U. of Chicago Academic Computing Services --------------------- In article , Steven Rich - Knoxville TN SE wrote: >O.k. I just read the FAQ entry on file formats and it is pretty clear >that it uses 'From blah blah blah' to separate mail messages (where >'blah blah blah' is a real From line). > >The problem is that some MUAs and LDAs don't escape embedded From >lines (such as during forwarding messages) and expect the >'Content-length' field of the header to be accurate (which is always >true here, since /usr/lib/mail.local is doing the counting). > >The consequence is that Pine and/or the imapd process return multiple >messages when there aren't multiple messages. Is there a way to tell >Pine/imap to trust/use the Content-length field? > >If not, can someone give me pointers as to where I should make >modifications to fix this? > >Thanks. >Steve >-- >Steve Rich >Systems Engineer - Sun Microsystems Computer Company >in the sunny Knoxville, TN office. 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Let us help you For As Little As $2.00 Per Day FOR MORE INFO EMAIL US AT abrown@usaor.net OR CALL US TODAY 412-934-0912 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 00:42:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04000; Sat, 16 Mar 96 00:42:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11610; Sat, 16 Mar 96 00:39:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11604; Sat, 16 Mar 96 00:39:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txrRO-00038FC; Sat, 16 Mar 96 00:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bgl@csl2.consultronics.on.ca (Greg Louis) Subject: new feature (old request) Date: 14 Mar 1996 16:54:39 GMT Message-Id: <4i9j0f$67v@sysgrp.consultronics.on.ca> For the wish list: Pine 3.92 (or 93... :) could react to its user's opening an incoming email containing, as a header, X-Confirm-Reading-To: user@somewhere by dispatching a receipt that quotes the header date, time and subject, and timestamps the reader's access to the message. That would be compatible with the mechanism used by Pegasus (which is probably as widespread in the MSDOS/Windows world as Pine is in the Unix world), and would therefore be useful to quite a wide audience. -- | G r e g L o u i s | pgp:mail key@PublicKey.com | | http://www.consultronics.on.ca/~bgl | glouis@consultronics.on.ca | | Censorship is arbitrary denial | 77 0B 39 81 28 CE 7D D0 | | substituted for rational debate! | 4C 7A 6E CC E7 21 4C 55 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 02:36:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06265; Sat, 16 Mar 96 02:36:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12893; Sat, 16 Mar 96 02:34:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12887; Sat, 16 Mar 96 02:34:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txtGy-00038TC; Sat, 16 Mar 96 02:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rupfold@white.lambton.on.ca (Rod Upfold) Subject: Tin Date: 15 Mar 1996 12:02:07 -0500 Message-Id: <4ic7qf$995@white.lambton.on.ca> I am not too sure if this is the right group or not for my question. Question: I am using "tin" newsreader and when I am reading (even in this group), I can not open quite a few of the postings....(sigh) Thank you Rod Upfold....(sigh) -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 02:56:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06504; Sat, 16 Mar 96 02:56:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01256; Sat, 16 Mar 96 02:54:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01245; Sat, 16 Mar 96 02:54:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txta4-00038FC; Sat, 16 Mar 96 02:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nevin Kapur Subject: Re: Pine and News Navigating In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 20:02:15 GMT On Wed, 13 Mar 1996, DJRambo wrote: > While viewing a list of newsgroups in Pine I hit enter to go to a > listing of postings or messages (the index). Then the right arrow to read > the desired posting. I can handle that. However while in the index how do > I get back to the newsgroups listing? If this was a html document I would > just hit the left arrow, but Pine refuses to understand that key at that > particular time. These little things confuse me. > > Daniel J. Rambo > Cole Service Bldg. > Oxford, Ohio 45056 Use 'i' for index, 'l' for list of folders (i.e. newsgroups listings) -- Nevin Kapur * Electrical Engineering * Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay http://ee.iitb.ernet.in/~nevin, nevin@ee.iitb.ernet.in From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 04:25:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09012; Sat, 16 Mar 96 04:25:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14255; Sat, 16 Mar 96 04:19:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14249; Sat, 16 Mar 96 04:19:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txuvS-00038FC; Sat, 16 Mar 96 04:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: comet@joe.test.com (Hal Comet) Subject: Re: newbie using pine on linux Date: 15 Mar 1996 09:55:07 GMT Message-Id: <4ibepr$p69@sun.sirius.com> References: <4iac8g$73k@poisson.nosc.mil> Richard Lay (lay@cod.nosc.mil) wrote: : When I attempt to send mail with pine (os is linux) I get "can't : load library libgdbm.so.2" Any suggestions? (besides "don't use : linux") This same thing happened to me when loading the Slackware 3.0 version of Linux 1.2.13 The error message "can't load library libgdbm.so.2" , is coming from the sendmail program. Probably because somebody left some debug code on by mistake. To rectify the problem, install the libc package from the d set (Program Development) from the Slackware distribution. This will install the libgdbm.so.2 and the message will go away. Another alternative is to use something other than the sendmail program such as smail. -- ==================================================================== The Consultant's Curse: When the customer has beaten upon you long enough, give him what he asks for, instead of what he needs. This is very strong medicine, and is normally only required once. ==================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 05:47:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10080; Sat, 16 Mar 96 05:47:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03256; Sat, 16 Mar 96 05:44:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03250; Sat, 16 Mar 96 05:44:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txwGy-00038FC; Sat, 16 Mar 96 05:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: idoh@cais.com (Haisam K. Ido ) Subject: Re: re Pine and POP3 - help Date: 15 Mar 1996 09:03:18 GMT Message-Id: <4ibbom$pqg@news2.cais.com> References: <4hp4po$b6t@sun4.bham.ac.uk> <4ia6o2$7ui@netaxs.com> Hillary Gorman (hillary@netaxs.com) wrote: : : You want popclient (a unix program) to download your mail and add it to : your spool. Then you can use pine to read your mail from that popserver. : You can make it a cron job, and have popclient check your mail every so : often. Check with the admin of your unix machine about the availability : of popclient. PINE itself can be configured to be a pop client, however. : : hillary -- +-------------------------------------------------+ Haisam K. Ido +-------------------------------------------------+ * ___ __ ___ ___ * * __ \ |__| \ \ | __|___\ \ \ / \| ___/ ___/\___/\___|___ | |__/ \___/\___/\__\__// * * | * * +-------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 06:33:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10723; Sat, 16 Mar 96 06:33:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15481; Sat, 16 Mar 96 06:31:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from scls1.suffolk.lib.ny.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15475; Sat, 16 Mar 96 06:31:14 -0800 Received: (from hbookout@localhost) by scls1.suffolk.lib.ny.us (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA12317; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 09:34:37 -0500 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 09:34:37 -0500 (EST) From: Bookout To: Pine Info Subject: Inverse Video Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Help! The screen of my pine suddenly turned black with white print. Actually, this is quite nice, but it infuriates me that _I_ had nothing to do with it, and I would like to be a fully autonomous switcher-back-and-forth! The answer to this question is probably very obvious (and may even arise from inside my ZTerm communications program) but I have been unable to solve it. Outside pine, the video display is normal. What to do? Henry hbookout@suffolk.lin.ny.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 07:18:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11370; Sat, 16 Mar 96 07:18:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16001; Sat, 16 Mar 96 07:15:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15995; Sat, 16 Mar 96 07:15:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txxex-00038FC; Sat, 16 Mar 96 07:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tony Calguire Subject: Re: Newsgroup Order Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 22:08:27 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4ht21r$o0n@guava.epix.net> On 9 Mar 1996, DearOldDad wrote: > > Hhmmmm ... I doubt if lynx (or pico) has benn configured to deny access to > dot files. Try this: From lynx, go to pico, then ^R (control + r) to > read in a file, then what yer probably doing is going ^T to get to a file > list and you can't see the .files ?? Well yer not supposed to, that's to > prevent an uniformed user from accidenatally deleting or editing a > .dotfile. So instead of typing ^R then ^T, type ^R then .newsrc or > whatever .filename you want to (^R)eadIn. Only a thought ... hope this > helps. BYE. > Well, I tried it, but these Freenet guys are awfully good. I got a "Read permission denied .newsrc" message when I tried to read in the file. Even if I had been able to do it, I wouldn't have been able to save it. Our Pico is tied in with the Lynx directory editing function, so that Pico can only be started after giving a filename to Lynx. If I wanted to create a new file and give it a name starting with a dot, Lynx would say "Illegal filename request ignored". If I wanted to edit a file, I have to choose that file from a menu in Lynx, and those menus don't show dot files. Thanks for the advice, anyway. __ _____________ /_____ _____/ Tony Calguire _____/_/____ / __________/ calguire@freenet.msp.mn.us ( (__/ /____ \__/ /____/ / / /_/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 07:33:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11556; Sat, 16 Mar 96 07:33:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04329; Sat, 16 Mar 96 07:29:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04323; Sat, 16 Mar 96 07:29:20 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21132; Sat, 16 Mar 96 07:29:16 -0800 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 07:29:16 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Greg Louis Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: new feature (old request) In-Reply-To: <4i9j0f$67v@sysgrp.consultronics.on.ca> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greg, There is now an IETF working group looking at the "read receipt" issue, and when the dust settles, we'll take a close look at it --but anything we do will require user concurrence before a receipt would be sent. -teg On 14 Mar 1996, Greg Louis wrote: > For the wish list: Pine 3.92 (or 93... :) could react to its user's > opening an incoming email containing, as a header, > > X-Confirm-Reading-To: user@somewhere > > by dispatching a receipt that quotes the header date, time and > subject, and timestamps the reader's access to the message. > > That would be compatible with the mechanism used by Pegasus (which is > probably as widespread in the MSDOS/Windows world as Pine is in the Unix > world), and would therefore be useful to quite a wide audience. > -- > | G r e g L o u i s | pgp:mail key@PublicKey.com | > | http://www.consultronics.on.ca/~bgl | glouis@consultronics.on.ca | > | Censorship is arbitrary denial | 77 0B 39 81 28 CE 7D D0 | > | substituted for rational debate! | 4C 7A 6E CC E7 21 4C 55 | > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 07:55:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11950; Sat, 16 Mar 96 07:55:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16390; Sat, 16 Mar 96 07:52:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16384; Sat, 16 Mar 96 07:52:31 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21317; Sat, 16 Mar 96 07:52:22 -0800 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 07:52:22 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: "Haisam K. Ido" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: re Pine and POP3 - help In-Reply-To: <4ibbom$pqg@news2.cais.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Hillary Gorman (hillary@netaxs.com) wrote: > : > : You want popclient (a unix program) to download your mail and add it to > : your spool. Then you can use pine to read your mail from that popserver. > : You can make it a cron job, and have popclient check your mail every so > : often. Check with the admin of your unix machine about the availability > : of popclient. > > PINE itself can be configured to be a pop client, however. Yes and no... It's true that the Pine distribution includes a pop3 driver that can be optionally enabled, HOWEVER: o Inclusion of this driver is for experimentation and its use should not be considered a supported configuration, for the following reasons... o Pine does not yet have "offline" support, so the POP driver attempts to do a weak imitation of full IMAP online interaction with the mail server, as opposed to the "download and delete" offline paradigm that most people expect and want when they use POP. (Offline support is planned for later this year.) o As distributed, Pine 3.91's pop driver has some bugs. I think these are corrected in the 3.92 code, with one exception: o If you try to Expunge messages via POP, Pine will not recognize that they have been expunged in terms of the Index display, leading to some surprising results. This won't get fixed until Pine 4.x which will be based on later (IMAP4-compliant) c-client libraries. So using "popclient" as a front-end to Pine may well be the preferred solution. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 09:17:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13458; Sat, 16 Mar 96 09:17:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05677; Sat, 16 Mar 96 09:15:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05671; Sat, 16 Mar 96 09:15:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0txzYZ-00038FC; Sat, 16 Mar 96 09:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: destiny@crl.com (David Cassel) Subject: Two problems Date: 14 Mar 1996 22:15:18 -0800 Message-Id: <4ib1tm$fs@crl9.crl.com> Due to high-traffic mailing lists, hundreds of messages pile up in my INBOX. If I exit pine, it can take a *long* time to return to the UNIX prompt... The second problem: a friend of mine said that a message didn't appear in the list of messages in the INBOX...but *was* visible by reading the .mailrc file. At the end of the message that preceded it in the INBOX were several strangely-behaving blank lines... A problems I've had is forwarding a message to a mailing list...if I trim the wrong headers, sometimes the forwarded message will re-appear as though it came to me from the original sender! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 09:50:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14477; Sat, 16 Mar 96 09:50:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17903; Sat, 16 Mar 96 09:46:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from andrew.cais.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17897; Sat, 16 Mar 96 09:46:56 -0800 Received: from cais.cais.com (cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by andrew.cais.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA16496; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 12:46:50 -0500 Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 12:46:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Haisam K. Ido" To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: re Pine and POP3 & ISO-8859-X In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 16 Mar 1996, Terry Gray wrote: [...] > > Haisam K. Ido (idoh@cais.com) wrote: > > [...] > > PINE itself can be configured to be a pop client, however. > Hillary Gorman (hillary@neta4xs.com) wrote: > Yes and no... > [...] > o Pine does not yet have "offline" support, so the POP driver attempts > to do a weak imitation of full IMAP online interaction with the mail > server, as opposed to the "download and delete" offline paradigm > that most people expect and want when they use POP. (Offline support > is planned for later this year.) I like this present feature, since it is much faster than downloading potentially hundereds of files, and I think it should remain as an option with future releases. A digression, an editable From: field would be nice, as apposed to just the Reply-To: one. In addition, being able to type in any ISO-8859-x character set would be a wonderful feature, including bi-directionality of text for the appropriate character sets, i.e. Arabic, Hebrew .... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 10:54:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15635; Sat, 16 Mar 96 10:54:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18714; Sat, 16 Mar 96 10:50:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18708; Sat, 16 Mar 96 10:50:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ty13O-00038FC; Sat, 16 Mar 96 10:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: number of addresses possible in the field "to:" Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 08:50:50 -0500 Message-Id: References: <31499EA4.7592@IRCM.UMontreal.CA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <31499EA4.7592@IRCM.UMontreal.CA> On Fri, 15 Mar 1996, Johanne Duhaime wrote: > Is there a maximum of addresses that you can enter at the "to: "? If Pine itself imposes an upper limit on the number of addressees in the "To:" field, I am not aware of it. However, some mail _transfer_ agents, which actually send the mail out, such as some configurations of sendmail under Unix, may impose a limit. Check with your system administrator. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 12:14:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16786; Sat, 16 Mar 96 12:14:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07902; Sat, 16 Mar 96 12:10:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07896; Sat, 16 Mar 96 12:10:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ty2IJ-00038FC; Sat, 16 Mar 96 12:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Richard Lay Subject: newbie using pine on linux Date: 15 Mar 1996 00:05:35 GMT Message-Id: <4iac8g$73k@poisson.nosc.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I attempt to send mail with pine (os is linux) I get "can't load library libgdbm.so.2" Any suggestions? (besides "don't use linux") Rich From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 12:48:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17339; Sat, 16 Mar 96 12:48:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20051; Sat, 16 Mar 96 12:45:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20045; Sat, 16 Mar 96 12:45:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ty2q7-00038FC; Sat, 16 Mar 96 12:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Raymond DeVoe Subject: Configuration Settings Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 13:39:54 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a list that shows the available parameters that are available for the "default-compser-hdrs" and "customized-hdrs" fields of Pine's setup options? -Ray- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 15:15:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19556; Sat, 16 Mar 96 15:15:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09895; Sat, 16 Mar 96 15:11:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09889; Sat, 16 Mar 96 15:10:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ty56H-00038FC; Sat, 16 Mar 96 15:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vev@msen.com (Vince Vielhaber) Subject: Is there a Pine for XWindows? Date: 15 Mar 1996 12:47:27 GMT Message-Id: <4ibot0$d7u@pravda.aa.msen.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject says it. I don't ever recall seeing anything about an XPine, does it exist? Vince. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH Email: vev@msen.com Flame mail: /dev/null Database Manager Michigan Area Repeater Council MSEN.COM is NOT the Microsoft Network! # include TEAM OS/2 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 16:39:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20887; Sat, 16 Mar 96 16:39:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22648; Sat, 16 Mar 96 16:36:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22642; Sat, 16 Mar 96 16:36:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ty6R1-00038TC; Sat, 16 Mar 96 16:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ck30@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Carl Kim) Subject: Sending copy to yourself? Date: 15 Mar 1996 21:44:17 GMT Message-Id: Hello! I was wondering how I could configure Pine to automagically send me a copy of any message that I had composed. I looked into the config menu but could not find out how. Thanks! -- -------------------------------------- We've secretly replaced the Enterprise's Dilithium Crystals with new Folger's Crystals. Let's see if they notice .... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 17:19:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21658; Sat, 16 Mar 96 17:19:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11307; Sat, 16 Mar 96 17:16:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11301; Sat, 16 Mar 96 17:16:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ty73l-00038FC; Sat, 16 Mar 96 17:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@guava.epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Locked and read only sent mail box Date: 16 Mar 1996 23:29:41 GMT Message-Id: <4ifit5$97n@guava.epix.net> References: Caeltigern (kralni@unm.edu) wrote: : I appreciate all the help I got regarding "talk" and I think while trying : to experiment with this, I messed something up and now when I open my : Sent Mail, I get a message that it is locked from another process (?) and : is Read Only. I think what happened is that perhaps I was out of Pine : long enough that it shut down (?) Any ideas? Any solutions? Thanks for : any help you can offer. : Kris Sounds like you have 2 copies of pine running. After you ^Z suspended pine and went to a talk session, you must bring the suspended progaram back to the forground (with the unix 'fg' command), then (q)uit pine properly before logging out. Only a thought. Hope this helps. BYE. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 17:20:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21696; Sat, 16 Mar 96 17:20:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11353; Sat, 16 Mar 96 17:19:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11347; Sat, 16 Mar 96 17:19:02 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01281; Sat, 16 Mar 96 17:19:01 -0800 X-Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for dlm+postmaster; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 08:59:06 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12978; Sat, 16 Mar 96 08:59:06 -0800 X-Received: from mail.crl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17212; Sat, 16 Mar 96 08:59:05 -0800 X-Received: from crl.crl.com (crl.com) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA05137 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 16 Mar 1996 08:55:19 -0800 X-Received: by crl.crl.com id AA18769 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Sat, 16 Mar 1996 08:46:58 -0800 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 08:46:57 -0800 (PST) From: Nym To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help please! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 17:18:44 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Mark Crispin Resent-Subject: Resent-Message-Id: Hiya, I am useing MachTen 4.0.2 and would like to put PINE/PICO on it. I have tried getting the .tar.g source and compiling it. No good, I get errros on a beserk file and a ttyin file. So I tried getting the prcompiled source. I did set my trtansfer type to I and got them (renaming pine-bin.machten to pine. etc) but it says invalid achtecture when I try to run them. What am I doing wrong? Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Jason Wellman a.k.a "WhiteFang" URL: http://titan.sfasu.edu/~a_wellmanja/ EMAIL: nym@crl.com | The pen is mightier than the sword. 8*<%%%%%%%%%%%%|+>-================================----------- | But, the sword sure hurts a hell of a lot more. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 17:34:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21907; Sat, 16 Mar 96 17:34:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23264; Sat, 16 Mar 96 17:31:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from junk.weeg.uiowa.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23258; Sat, 16 Mar 96 17:31:11 -0800 Received: from red.weeg.uiowa.edu (root@red.weeg.uiowa.edu [128.255.56.5]) by junk.weeg.uiowa.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id TAA17000; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 19:31:09 -0600 Received: by red.weeg.uiowa.edu (8.6.13/client-1.3) id TAA28739; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 19:29:40 -0600 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 19:29:40 -0600 (CST) From: "A. Olson" X-Sender: aeolson@red.weeg.uiowa.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: aeolson@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu Subject: concerning this bug Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I need info. or help, I am new to e-mail, and promised a lot of friends messages, ages ago. . . I would like to know how to get rid of it before resorting to help by computer whizzes. After I send messages, I get back "User unknown" I don't know what to do. Pweeze hewlp me. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 18:33:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22727; Sat, 16 Mar 96 18:33:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23994; Sat, 16 Mar 96 18:31:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23988; Sat, 16 Mar 96 18:31:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ty8EZ-00038FC; Sat, 16 Mar 96 18:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Buschke Subject: Switch to "Reply-To" Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 14:08:01 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi everyone! Could anyone please tell me how I can switch to "Repy-To" in the header, so that the replies will be sent to the "reply-to"-address instead of the "from"-address? TIA, Sven Buschke. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 18:59:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23118; Sat, 16 Mar 96 18:59:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12446; Sat, 16 Mar 96 18:56:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12440; Sat, 16 Mar 96 18:56:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ty8ca-00038FC; Sat, 16 Mar 96 18:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: elynk@Capital.Net (Edgar Lynk) Subject: Distribution Lists Show All Names Message-Id: Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 23:03:17 GMT I want to send the same message to each address in a distribution list (created with the "S" command), but don't wan't _all_ the addresses listed in the "To:" field of every message. Just want one. Is there a way of accomplishing this? Thanks. -- -- The path to worldwide peace begins at your front door -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 19:39:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23704; Sat, 16 Mar 96 19:39:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24799; Sat, 16 Mar 96 19:36:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24793; Sat, 16 Mar 96 19:36:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ty9ES-00038FC; Sat, 16 Mar 96 19:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhd@Radix.Net (Joseph Davidson) Subject: Eudora-Pine Address conversions Date: 16 Mar 1996 23:07:58 GMT Message-Id: <4ifhke$lpe@news1.radix.net> I have Perl scripts which will convert Eudora addresses (nicknames) to Pine addresses and vice versa. Go to my home page (see below) and scroll to the bottom. If a script does not work, I will send it to you you directly. Some people have problems getting the scripts directly of my Web page. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Davidson Ph.D. InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting Computer and Network Consulting, Win 95 and Mac 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 20:28:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24332; Sat, 16 Mar 96 20:28:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13465; Sat, 16 Mar 96 20:26:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13459; Sat, 16 Mar 96 20:26:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyA27-00038FC; Sat, 16 Mar 96 20:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nxa585@bham.ac.uk (N Ambrose) Subject: Re: re Pine and POP3 - help Date: 15 Mar 1996 15:08:05 GMT Message-Id: <4ic14l$3i@sun4.bham.ac.uk> References: <4hp4po$b6t@sun4.bham.ac.uk> <4ia6o2$7ui@netaxs.com> <4ibbom$pqg@news2.cais.com> Haisam K. Ido (idoh@cais.com) wrote: >>> PINE itself can be configured to be a pop client, however. How How How???????? Answers on a post card PLEASE!!! neil ;-) -- N.Ambrose@bham.ac.uk Department of Biomedical Science and Ethics The Medical School The University of Brimingham Edgbaston Birimingham B15 2TT 0121 414 5390 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 21:26:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25023; Sat, 16 Mar 96 21:26:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25925; Sat, 16 Mar 96 21:21:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25919; Sat, 16 Mar 96 21:21:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyArT-00038FC; Sat, 16 Mar 96 21:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: g053200@spdsjw.gteds.gtenet.com (Stephen J. Weihman) Subject: Re: new feature (old request) Date: 15 Mar 1996 20:45:01 GMT Message-Id: <4ickse$atq@ceylon.gte.com> References: <4i9j0f$67v@sysgrp.consultronics.on.ca> In article <4i9j0f$67v@sysgrp.consultronics.on.ca>, bgl@csl2.consultronics.on.ca (Greg Louis) writes: >For the wish list: Pine 3.92 (or 93... :) could react to its user's >opening an incoming email containing, as a header, > >X-Confirm-Reading-To: user@somewhere > >by dispatching a receipt that quotes the header date, time and >subject, and timestamps the reader's access to the message. As far as many are concerned - myself included - this is a definite waste of bandwidth, and an invasion of privacy. If I want someone to know I've read their message, I'll respond to them. Otherwise, don't make that decision for me. -- Will Rogers never met a lawyer. -- ------------------------------------------------------- -- Stephen J. Weihman -*- GTE Data Services -- ------------------------------------------------------- -- The opinions expressed herein are entirely my -- -- own, and are not necessarily those of GTE. -- ------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 23:05:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26246; Sat, 16 Mar 96 23:05:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15100; Sat, 16 Mar 96 23:02:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15094; Sat, 16 Mar 96 23:02:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyCR2-00038FC; Sat, 16 Mar 96 22:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jml@primenet.com (Jack M. LaPedis) Subject: Eudora Nicknames to Pine Address Book? Date: 15 Mar 1996 17:24:01 -0700 Message-Id: Is there an easy way to convert/export the Mac Eudora 'Nicknames' to a Pine 'Address Book'? If not, is there a hard way? :) Later, -- @~~~@ @~~~@ | | Jack M. LaPedis, Esq. | | | | Attorney At Law | | | | jml@primenet.com | | | | http://www.primenet.com/~jml | | | | GO NINERS!!! | | @___@ @___@ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 23:20:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26550; Sat, 16 Mar 96 23:20:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27107; Sat, 16 Mar 96 23:18:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27101; Sat, 16 Mar 96 23:18:10 -0800 Received: from maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id AAA21738 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 00:17:59 -0700 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.13]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id AAA43072 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 00:18:02 -0700 Received: by gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9) id AAA49920; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 00:18:01 -0700 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 00:18:01 -0700 (MST) From: Steven X-Sender: dolsen@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Specific E-Mail to specific folders question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was wondering if there's a way to get specific E-Mail (like this mailing list for example) in seperate folders? Please post/mail with answers and thanks in advance for any help. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 16 23:28:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26676; Sat, 16 Mar 96 23:28:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27184; Sat, 16 Mar 96 23:26:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27178; Sat, 16 Mar 96 23:26:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyCp5-00038TC; Sat, 16 Mar 96 23:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Johanne Duhaime Subject: number of addresses possible in the field "to:" Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 11:45:24 -0500 Message-Id: <31499EA4.7592@IRCM.UMontreal.CA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a maximum of addresses that you can enter at the "to: "? Thank you -- Johanne Duhaime IRCM 110 Ave des Pins O Montreal, Quebec 987-5556 (tel) 987-5644 (fax) Duhaimj@ircm.umontreal.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 00:37:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27773; Sun, 17 Mar 96 00:37:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16040; Sun, 17 Mar 96 00:32:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16034; Sun, 17 Mar 96 00:32:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyDqX-00038FC; Sun, 17 Mar 96 00:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Using MH folders - how? Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 17:42:52 +0000 Message-Id: References: <4i40d7$2ms@kuikka.inet.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4i40d7$2ms@kuikka.inet.fi> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 12 Mar 1996, Timo Lehtinen wrote: > How can I persuade Pine (running on LINUX) to treat ~/Mail as > an MH style folder collection. I've tried every imaginable > permution using #mh/ in my .pinerc "folder-collections=" line > with no success. My .pinerc has something like this: folder-collections=Main mail/[], Computer-Centre mail/CCC/[], Email mail/Email/[], People mail/People/[], PGP mail/PGP/[], Mngmt-CM mail/Mgmt/[], Usenet mail/Usenet/[], Linguistics mail/Ling/[], WWW mail/WWW/[], Business mail/Biz/[], Hungarian mail/Magyar/[], MH #mh/[], TeX mail/TeX/[] It works except that I can't get pine to read ~/Mail/inbox (MH's "inbox") - -jeff - -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv Comment: Processed by mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAgUBMUmsDBu6nIqxqP+5AQHE0AP/Zxakizr9Zbk8+5YSuvu5xKYApg/yqtBP 6g6E3oiwUmxWzSPPev5sdKjAFoIWQ0w7rFGsbJMLijODRs+Gai4FHJQChGJYicNV HN2SzTy0IfSLNoRyYGvEFmYadPw8lyNNTmtL5B07qJTFi7gGb7q4ygP3EdFYbR5+ kscfQhMnUHY= =4PAd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 00:43:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27897; Sun, 17 Mar 96 00:43:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27971; Sun, 17 Mar 96 00:42:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27965; Sun, 17 Mar 96 00:42:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyDzv-00038FC; Sun, 17 Mar 96 00:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simonb@wormald.com.au (Simon Bennett) Subject: Re: Using MH folders - how? Message-Id: References: <4i40d7$2ms@kuikka.inet.fi> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 06:21:37 GMT Jeffrey Goldberg (cc047@ecs.pc.Cranfield.ac.uk) wrote: : -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- : On 12 Mar 1996, Timo Lehtinen wrote: : > How can I persuade Pine (running on LINUX) to treat ~/Mail as : > an MH style folder collection. I've tried every imaginable : > permution using #mh/ in my .pinerc "folder-collections=" line : > with no success. : My .pinerc has something like this: : folder-collections=Main mail/[], : Computer-Centre mail/CCC/[], : Email mail/Email/[], : People mail/People/[], : PGP mail/PGP/[], : Mngmt-CM mail/Mgmt/[], : Usenet mail/Usenet/[], : Linguistics mail/Ling/[], : WWW mail/WWW/[], : Business mail/Biz/[], : Hungarian mail/Magyar/[], : MH #mh/[], : TeX mail/TeX/[] : It works except that I can't get pine to read ~/Mail/inbox (MH's "inbox") Unless PINE's got a new feature I don't know about, it can't read the MH style messages (which are stored in separate files) - you can however convert MH "folders" into mail style files which can be read by pine/elm/mailx etc.. The easiest way is to use packmbox.sh which comes in the MH 6.8 ditribution. If you end up hating PINE you can always go back to MH by re inc'ing the PINE files back into MH "folders". -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Simon Bennett simonb@wormald.com.au Wormald Technology Advanced Systems Engineering Ph: +61 2 9981 0611 (x512) Common Sense doesn't seem to be From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 01:54:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29437; Sun, 17 Mar 96 01:54:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16931; Sun, 17 Mar 96 01:52:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16925; Sun, 17 Mar 96 01:52:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyF7G-00038FC; Sun, 17 Mar 96 01:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Is there a Pine for XWindows? Date: 16 Mar 1996 08:49:43 GMT Message-Id: <4idvb7$o2c@news.ysu.edu> References: <4ibot0$d7u@pravda.aa.msen.com> In a previous article, vev@msen.com (Vince Vielhaber) says: > >Subject says it. I don't ever recall seeing anything about an XPine The upcoming release 3.92, which really and truly will be available Really Soon Now[tm], does have support for the X mouse, enabling you to do such things as move around in composition text, select and paste, and click on commands to execute them, as well as providing new mail notification in the icon. Mouse support can also work for Pico. > MSEN.COM is NOT the Microsoft Network! Yeah, I can tell the difference. Msen accepts incoming mail. -- Barry Bouwsma, Intanet an' Netwerkin' gooru-type kind o' nerd Radio Praha, Cesky Rozhlas 7; Vinohradska 12; CZ-120 99 Praha 2; Czechistan __________http://www.radio.cz for info from Radio Prague This sig is five lines long. Check your newsreader configuration if you do not From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 01:58:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29514; Sun, 17 Mar 96 01:58:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28775; Sun, 17 Mar 96 01:57:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28769; Sun, 17 Mar 96 01:57:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyFCS-00038TC; Sun, 17 Mar 96 01:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Marks Subject: Write e-mail off line Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 18:30:11 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I am new to Pine and have a very dumb question. Is it possible to compose an e-mail off-line (before I get into Pine) and then copy it into Pine when I want to send it. This would greatly reduce the amount of time that I tie up the phone line. I am using an old 286 with DOS. Thanks, Brad Marks PS. Please respond with e-mail. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 04:13:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02349; Sun, 17 Mar 96 04:13:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00480; Sun, 17 Mar 96 04:11:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.rogerswave.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00474; Sun, 17 Mar 96 04:11:46 -0800 Received: from 108-44.rogerswave.ca (glouis@glouis.rogerswave.ca [198.231.108.44]) by rogerswave.ca (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id HAA22010; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 07:13:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 07:11:44 -0500 (EST) From: Greg Louis X-Sender: glouis@108-44.rogerswave.ca To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: new feature (old request) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Confirm-Reading-To: glouis@dynamicro.on.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 16 Mar 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > Greg, > There is now an IETF working group looking at the "read receipt" issue, > and when the dust settles, we'll take a close look at it --but anything we > do will require user concurrence before a receipt would be sent. > Thank you for the info, Terry. What would seem most reasonable, to me anyway, is for honouring such requests to be a configurable item. The system default would be set at installation, and perhaps users could change it in .pinerc if there were reason to do so. I think Pine still asks too many questions that either oughtn't to be choices (like "use reply-to address?"), or ought to be configuration items. A matter of taste, admittedly. In Pegasus, as you may know, the network installation allows the sysadmin not only to set the default but to choose whether or not to allow users to override the setting. Our installation forces read-receipt-requests to be honoured, although an exception would be allowed if anyone were really upset by the loss of privacy thus inflicted. So far the request has never been made. Personally I think this is better than giving the option and then telling the users it's a matter of company policy that they shouldn't use it. That tends to invite mountain-out-of-molehill-making, IMHO. After all, if you pick up your phone, the person on the other end knows you've received their call... but I digress... :) | G r e g L o u i s | pgp:mail key@PublicKey.com | | http://www.consultronics.on.ca/~bgl | glouis@consultronics.on.ca | | Censorship is arbitrary denial | 77 0B 39 81 28 CE 7D D0 | | substituted for rational debate! | 4C 7A 6E CC E7 21 4C 55 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 04:18:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02458; Sun, 17 Mar 96 04:18:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00550; Sun, 17 Mar 96 04:17:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00544; Sun, 17 Mar 96 04:17:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyHLB-00038UC; Sun, 17 Mar 96 04:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: marvin@superlink.net (Warren or Tony Lieuallen) Subject: Help with filter. Date: 15 Mar 1996 20:39:13 GMT Message-Id: <4ickhh$oh2@earth.superlink.net> Could someone show me an example of how to use filter to put messages with certain text in the subject into a specified folder? Thanks in advance! -- +-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Tony Lieuallen | marvin@mars.superlink.net | +-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | http://mars.superlink.net/marvin/home | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | * It's Non-Toxic! That means you can eat it!! | | * WWW really stands for World Wide Wait!!! | | * Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side and a dark side and | | it holds the universe together. | | * Flashlight: Device to store dead batteries. | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 04:18:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02464; Sun, 17 Mar 96 04:18:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18620; Sun, 17 Mar 96 04:17:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18614; Sun, 17 Mar 96 04:17:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyHLB-00038TC; Sun, 17 Mar 96 04:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sean Hussey Subject: Re: Switch to "Reply-To" Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 14:16:34 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 15 Mar 1996, Sven Buschke wrote: > Hi everyone! > > Could anyone please tell me how I can switch to "Repy-To" in the header, > so that the replies will be sent to the "reply-to"-address instead of the > "from"-address? >From the Main Menu, go into Setup and then Config. Towards the bottom, you'll see a setting called "customized-hdrs". Next to it, Add the value "Reply-To:" and then Exit the Config screen. >From now on, when you compose a message, type a ^R (Control-R) in the header and the new headers will come up. Enter the reply-to address there. Voila!! Sean ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- .... . . . . . . The Internet Access Company Sean Hussey . (617) 276-7200 HTML Author . seanh@tiac.net http://www.tiac.net/ . . . . . . .... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 05:04:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03300; Sun, 17 Mar 96 05:04:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19039; Sun, 17 Mar 96 05:02:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19033; Sun, 17 Mar 96 05:02:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyI3J-00038FC; Sun, 17 Mar 96 04:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mr.Root" Subject: Re: re Pine and POP3 & ISO-8859-X Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 19:23:46 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 16 Mar 1996, Haisam K. Ido wrote: > A digression, an editable From: field would be nice, as apposed to just > the Reply-To: one. This must be selected at time of compilation, for reasons that it could otherwise be too easy for users to fake mail. Not that this will keep them from firing up Netscape... > In addition, being able to type in any ISO-8859-x > character set would be a wonderful feature, including bi-directionality > of text for the appropriate character sets, i.e. Arabic, Hebrew .... This is more a function of what your keyboard driver and display can do for you. It's not possible to mix character sets, but if I had things configured properly on this end, I would be able to switch this PC keyboard to a Czech one and type a message in Czech (ISO-8859-2) with no difficulty whatsoever (except for lack of knowledge of the language ;-). Alternatively, an alternate editor which is aware of the bi-directionality could be used instead of pico when typing in ISO-8859-6 or -8. As far as I know, pico doesn't work so well with bidi text, though it will give you no problems when you are properly configured for any of the other ISO 8859 subsets. Barry Bouwsma, Radio Praha Chocolate Importer From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 05:59:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03978; Sun, 17 Mar 96 05:59:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19621; Sun, 17 Mar 96 05:57:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-11.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19615; Sun, 17 Mar 96 05:57:48 -0800 Received: from localhost by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 17 Mar 96 21:57:14 +0800 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 21:57:13 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Edgar Lynk Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Distribution Lists Show All Names In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 16 Mar 1996, Edgar Lynk wrote: > I want to send the same message to each address in a > distribution list (created with the "S" command), but > don't wan't _all_ the addresses listed in the "To:" > field of every message. Just want one. Is there a > way of accomplishing this? > Your wish will soon be granted! The soon to be released pine3.92 will have an Lcc: header where you can specify the list name. The receipients will only see the name of the list. Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 06:09:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04096; Sun, 17 Mar 96 06:09:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01760; Sun, 17 Mar 96 06:07:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-11.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01754; Sun, 17 Mar 96 06:07:41 -0800 Received: from localhost by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 17 Mar 96 22:06:43 +0800 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:06:43 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Sven Buschke Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Switch to "Reply-To" In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 15 Mar 1996, Sven Buschke wrote: > Hi everyone! > > Could anyone please tell me how I can switch to "Repy-To" in the header, > so that the replies will be sent to the "reply-to"-address instead of the > "from"-address? Is this the feature you are looking for? FEATURE: reply-always-uses-reply-to This feature controls an aspect of Pine's Reply command. If set, Pine will not prompt when a message being replied to contains a "Reply-To:" header value, but will simply use its value (as opposed to using the "From:" field's value). Note, this is usually the preferred behavior, however there is a certain, popular list manager that places the list's address in the "Reply-To:" field. This feature makes it all too easy for personal replies to be inadvertently sent to the entire mail list. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 06:09:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04128; Sun, 17 Mar 96 06:09:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01752; Sun, 17 Mar 96 06:07:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01746; Sun, 17 Mar 96 06:07:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyJ4c-00038FC; Sun, 17 Mar 96 06:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mr.Root" Subject: Re: Configuration Settings Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 20:43:08 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 16 Mar 1996, Raymond DeVoe wrote: > Is there a list that shows the available parameters that are available > for the "default-compser-hdrs" and "customized-hdrs" fields of Pine's No, because you can add *any* header you want, in addition to the ones one commonly sees, like To: and Reply-To: and Organization: and X-Indecency: and so on. But if you do ^Rich headers, you'll see the ones Pine does by default, which I see as... Reply-To: barryb@tuke.sk Newsgrps: comp.mail.pine To : Raymond DeVoe Cc : barry+sent.pine@radio.cz Bcc : Fcc : Lcc : Attchmnt: Subject : Re: Configuration Settings I've added the Reply-To: to direct the mail to me, instead of to whoever I happen to be logged in as when I access a folder, but you can add any headers you want your mail to contain to the custom-headers, and any you want to see all the time to the default-headers -- such as if you wanted to change your X-Indecency: header for each message you post. Barry Bouwsma, Radio Praha Indecency Specialist From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 06:17:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04260; Sun, 17 Mar 96 06:17:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01843; Sun, 17 Mar 96 06:15:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from admin.aurora.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01837; Sun, 17 Mar 96 06:15:19 -0800 Received: by admin.aurora.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA02891; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 08:18:35 -0600 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 08:18:35 -0600 (CST) From: Steve Lowe To: Pine Information List Subject: New Feature Request Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I thought I would add my feature request. Where I previously worked, we had the capability to do an on-the-spot query against a whois file to determine userids. We had about 6000+ users so sometimes it was impossible to keep your addressbook up to date. It would be nice to have that kind of query ability to build a list of userids. Just a thought. -- Steve Lowe Aurora University slowe@admin.aurora.edu 708 844 5290 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 07:19:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05142; Sun, 17 Mar 96 07:19:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02461; Sun, 17 Mar 96 07:17:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02455; Sun, 17 Mar 96 07:17:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyKCj-00038TC; Sun, 17 Mar 96 07:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gsully@gsully.osha.igs.net (Greg Sullivan) Subject: Re: re Pine and POP3 - help Date: 16 Mar 1996 21:56:04 GMT Message-Id: References: <4hp4po$b6t@sun4.bham.ac.uk> <4ia6o2$7ui@netaxs.com> <4ibbom$pqg@news2.cais.com> In article <4ibbom$pqg@news2.cais.com>, Haisam K. Ido wrote: >Hillary Gorman (hillary@netaxs.com) wrote: >: >: You want popclient (a unix program) to download your mail and add it to >: your spool. Then you can use pine to read your mail from that popserver. >: You can make it a cron job, and have popclient check your mail every so >: often. Check with the admin of your unix machine about the availability >: of popclient. > >PINE itself can be configured to be a pop client, however. How? All the documentation that I have seen implies that PINE itself cannot retrieve e-mail via POP. It will do IMAP with no problems but POP support is not built in. -- ________________________________________________________________________ Greg `SULLY' Sullivan | http://www.osha.igs.net/~gsully gsully@osha.igs.net | ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 07:19:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05158; Sun, 17 Mar 96 07:19:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20407; Sun, 17 Mar 96 07:17:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20401; Sun, 17 Mar 96 07:17:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyKCk-00038UC; Sun, 17 Mar 96 07:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Caeltigern Subject: Locked and read only sent mail box Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 11:10:02 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings: I appreciate all the help I got regarding "talk" and I think while trying to experiment with this, I messed something up and now when I open my Sent Mail, I get a message that it is locked from another process (?) and is Read Only. I think what happened is that perhaps I was out of Pine long enough that it shut down (?) Any ideas? Any solutions? Thanks for any help you can offer. - Kris kralni@unm.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 07:20:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05193; Sun, 17 Mar 96 07:20:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20399; Sun, 17 Mar 96 07:17:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20393; Sun, 17 Mar 96 07:17:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyKCC-00038FC; Sun, 17 Mar 96 07:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rupfold@white.lambton.on.ca (Rod Upfold) Subject: Tin & signature file Date: 16 Mar 1996 16:51:12 -0500 Message-Id: <4ifd4g$20u@white.lambton.on.ca> Does the "Tin" news reader not like "Pico" signature files -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 08:11:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05827; Sun, 17 Mar 96 08:11:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20930; Sun, 17 Mar 96 08:07:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20924; Sun, 17 Mar 96 08:07:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyKwl-00038TC; Sun, 17 Mar 96 08:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@guava.epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: one more time Date: 15 Mar 1996 16:52:07 GMT Message-Id: <4ic77n$6r1@guava.epix.net> References: Greg Sutherland (greg@therock.mcg.edu) wrote: : Perhaps my previous Subject confused matters. If someone knows what might : be causing my problem, I sure would appreciate a note. : One of my users was trying to send to a large distribution list. He got : Subject: Returned mail: Unable to deliver mail (fwd) : and : 554 ... Unbalanced '<' It means just what it said! He had more <'s than >'s or vice-versa in his To: address. Hope this helps. G'Day. /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/___/_email_dad@epix.net_|_____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 08:11:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05855; Sun, 17 Mar 96 08:11:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02994; Sun, 17 Mar 96 08:07:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02988; Sun, 17 Mar 96 08:07:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyKwk-00038FC; Sun, 17 Mar 96 08:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rich@steam.sunknox.east.sun.com (Steven Rich - Knoxville TN SE) Subject: Content-length header val and embedded From lines Date: 15 Mar 1996 21:45:07 GMT Message-Id: O.k. I just read the FAQ entry on file formats and it is pretty clear that it uses 'From blah blah blah' to separate mail messages (where 'blah blah blah' is a real From line). The problem is that some MUAs and LDAs don't escape embedded From lines (such as during forwarding messages) and expect the 'Content-length' field of the header to be accurate (which is always true here, since /usr/lib/mail.local is doing the counting). The consequence is that Pine and/or the imapd process return multiple messages when there aren't multiple messages. Is there a way to tell Pine/imap to trust/use the Content-length field? If not, can someone give me pointers as to where I should make modifications to fix this? Thanks. Steve -- Steve Rich Systems Engineer - Sun Microsystems Computer Company in the sunny Knoxville, TN office. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 08:13:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05933; Sun, 17 Mar 96 08:13:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03002; Sun, 17 Mar 96 08:07:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02996; Sun, 17 Mar 96 08:07:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyKwl-00038UC; Sun, 17 Mar 96 08:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: luttrell@netcom.com (Jordan D. Luttrell) Subject: Search and Replace Message-Id: Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 22:12:45 GMT Is there a way to search and replace in Pine, like in most word-processors? Many thanks, Joe Luttrell From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 08:18:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06085; Sun, 17 Mar 96 08:18:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03127; Sun, 17 Mar 96 08:16:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rcummins.ppp.cyberenet.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03121; Sun, 17 Mar 96 08:16:49 -0800 Received: (from rcummins@localhost) by burlco-00.burlco.cyberenet.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA18882 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 11:16:47 -0500 From: Ray Cummins Message-Id: <199603171616.LAA18882@burlco-00.burlco.cyberenet.net> Subject: New Feature Request To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 11:16:47 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 847 Actually, two new feature requests, both for PC-Pine: 1) I don't like things that beep at me when I make an erroneous keystroke. I especially don't like things that go "deedle, deedle, deedle!" at me. So, I would suggest an option that turns off beeping completely (or at least makes it a very short, polite "blip", maybe even a "bip" ;) 2) Seems like I have to run through a long gamut of questions every time I start PC-Pine and want to compose a message. Seems to me the only thing it should have to ask for is my username and password when I first start it up. I know that I can set "user-id" and "personal-name" in the pinerc file, but this is not a solution for a lab setting. Is it possible to have PC-Pine finger (or equivalent) the IMAP server (or host of my choice) to acquire the user's full name? Thanks so much! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 10:00:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07930; Sun, 17 Mar 96 10:00:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22146; Sun, 17 Mar 96 09:58:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-11.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22140; Sun, 17 Mar 96 09:58:40 -0800 Received: from localhost by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 18 Mar 96 01:58:02 +0800 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 01:58:01 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Ray Cummins Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: New Feature Request In-Reply-To: <199603171616.LAA18882@burlco-00.burlco.cyberenet.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 17 Mar 1996, Ray Cummins wrote: > Actually, two new feature requests, both for PC-Pine: > > 1) I don't like things that beep at me when I make an erroneous > keystroke. I especially don't like things that go "deedle, deedle, > deedle!" at me. So, I would suggest an option that turns off beeping > completely (or at least makes it a very short, polite "blip", maybe even > a "bip" ;) I know the new Unix pine will have: FEATURE: quell-status-message-beeping This feature affects Pine's behavior when it displays status message (e.g., Error complaints, New mail warnings, etc). Setting this feature will not affect the display of such messages, but will cause those that emit a beep to become silent. Maybe PC Pine will as well..... Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 12:39:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11019; Sun, 17 Mar 96 12:39:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24134; Sun, 17 Mar 96 12:36:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24128; Sun, 17 Mar 96 12:36:46 -0800 Received: from slave.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:35:07 +0000 Received: by slave.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id UAA23620; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:36:36 GMT Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:36:35 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Chai Sau San Cc: pine-info Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine is a mail & Usenet News program, not an IRC client program. You cannot use IRC with Pine, but need to use other software. Ask your local help desk for assistance as they will/should know what software is installed on your computers. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sat, 16 Mar 1996, Chai Sau San wrote: > How to get into the IRC with pine,Please ??? > THank a lot. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 14:27:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13427; Sun, 17 Mar 96 14:27:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07610; Sun, 17 Mar 96 14:21:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dxmint.cern.ch by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07604; Sun, 17 Mar 96 14:21:02 -0800 Received: from ues7.cern.ch by dxmint.cern.ch id AA05013; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 23:21:01 +0100 Received: (from miotto@localhost) by ues7.cern.ch (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA04353; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 23:20:57 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 23:20:56 +0100 (MET) From: Alessandro MIOTTO X-Sender: miotto@ues7.cern.ch To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Problems with headers from Quickmail Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I include below a message coming from a Macintosh which has a Content-Type text/plain and a peculiar 'name' attribute, i.e. "Message Body". Since pine believes, because of 'name', that the message is a file, reading this message requires two carriage returns and going back requires Exiting twice. The pine behaviour is very irritating for users, and it looks like there is no way to set the Mac mailer not to use this attribute. Furthermore, I could not find anything in the RFC that precludes the use of the 'name' attribute for something different from a file name. To make users happy I had to patch mailview.c and not set the has_name variable when the 'name' value is "Message Body". Any comments? Alessandro --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alessandro Miotto - CN/DCI/UES | Tel: +41 22 767 9576 CERN - European Laboratory | Fax: +41 22 767 7155 for Particle Physics | E-mail: miotto@mail.cern.ch CH-1211 Geneve 23 | ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Received: from macmail2.cern.ch by mail1.cern.ch with SMTP id AA26387 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.5); Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:16:42 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 31 Jan 1996 10:12:53 +0100 From: "Mats Moller" Subject: Re: The macmail/pine issue To: "Alessandro MIOTTO" Cc: "Jan Hendrik Peters" , "Judy Richards" , "UMTF - Mail workgroup" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 3.0.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; Name="Message Body" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reply to: RE>>The macmail/pine issue Hello, I have made some testing with pine, Netscape and Eudora on my side. It looks like pine is the only client that can not handle messages coming from QM correctly. Both Netscape and Eudora works fine (they do NOT consider the mail body to be an enclosure). So maybe the problem is pine? Mats From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 18:40:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17598; Sun, 17 Mar 96 18:40:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10641; Sun, 17 Mar 96 18:31:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pobox.harvard.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10635; Sun, 17 Mar 96 18:31:23 -0800 Received: (from dgreen@localhost) by pobox.harvard.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA10341; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 21:27:24 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 21:27:23 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Green To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How do I Download GIF with ZTerm? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am using PINE 3.91 (UNIX) from my MAC with ZTerm 1.0b3. I am unable to save non-text (e.g., images) to my hard drive. How do I do this with "message body" or "attachments"? When I tried to download Email GIF, PINE gave me the following message: "[Part 1, Image/GIF 11KB] [Can not display this part. Use the "V" command to save in a file]" Then I pressed "V" and got: " 1 11 KB Image [Message 1 has only one part (the message body), and no attachments.]" Pressing "S" gives me: "Copy attachment to file in current directory:" What configurations/commands are needed for Pine, UNIX and/or ZTerm? Daniel dgreen@netope.harvard.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 19:11:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18122; Sun, 17 Mar 96 19:11:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28891; Sun, 17 Mar 96 19:05:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ix.ix.netcom.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28871; Sun, 17 Mar 96 19:04:37 -0800 Received: from [206.163.122.106] by ix.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id SAA00932; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 18:19:50 -0800 X-Sender: ginny@pop.dorsai.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Reply-To: please.reply.via.fax.or.smail@fax.number.or.smail.address.shown.below Approved: moderator X-Priority: 2 (High) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 20:04:13 +0530 To: shyamala22.raperjee@netaccess.net1.ub.in From: shyamala22.raperjee@netaccess.net1.ub.in (Shyamala Raperjee) Subject: ===>> *Fantastic* FREE offer I discovered on the 'net -----> NOTE: Please first read my note which appears below the "Request for more info Form." 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If you have trouble getting through to their fax, or do not have a fax machine at work or at home, just drop the below form to them via smail (airmail or first class mail). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ *------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------* REQUEST FOR MORE INFO: please return *only* this section (with no cover page) via 1-page fax to: 718-967-1550 in the USA or via smail (first class mail or airmail) to: Magazine Club Inquiry Center Att. FREE Catalogue-by-email Dept. PO Box 990 Staten Island NY 10312-0990 Sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged. If you do not have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you until you do have one. If you saw this message, then you should have one. :) ---> SORRY, BUT NO HANDWRITTEN FORMS WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED. MUST BE TYPED-OUT ON YOUR COMPUTER OR TYPEWRITER. <--- Name: Internet email address: Smail home address: City-State-Zip: Country: Work Tel. #: Work Fax #: Home Tel. #: Home Fax #: How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of the internet that you saw us mentioned in): Referral by: Shyamala Raperjee. 031796-l Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail: Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you: Catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"): *------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------* Catalogue Format Options: 1. 19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total). 2. For more advanced computer users: attached text file ~525K - you must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to open it with your word processor. If in doubt, don't ask for this version. This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1 and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how to deal with this option. 3. For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea), ~133K. Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed. You just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands (unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as you still have to know how to deal with an attached file. It will cut your download time by 75%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. 4. For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with Stuffit(tm), ~114K. Can be decompressed by any computer user who has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files. This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your download time by 78%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. Hi fellow 'netters, My name is Shyamala Raperjee and I recently started using a magazine subscription club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them. They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country on a subscription basis. As for computer magazines from the USA, they more of a selection than I ever knew even existed. They have magazines for most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles. Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their competitors and even the publishers themselves. This is their price guarantee. Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines. On some titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge. They feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas. In the USA, people buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes or hours. They are so cheap in the USA! Well, this company would like to make it the same way for their overseas members. They are also cheaper than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the publishers themselves! This is their price guarantee. Around one-half their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language. Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and cut-out all the middlemen. They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student. I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my part-time software business! Please fill out the above form and carefully follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail. They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet. They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it. They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I haved moved from one country to another. They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA. They will give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular USA titles they sell. They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have clients in around 45 or 46 countries now. Outside the USA there is a charge for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie subs) that varies from magazine to magazine. I have found their staff to be very friendly and courteous. They even helped me with an address change when I moved from one country to another. The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members" (even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts as a new member. When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes he has one of his assistants call. He is kind of quirky sometimes - he insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!), but you can place future orders (after your first order) via E-mail. He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know just as much as he does about this magazine stuff. If you live overseas, he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long distance rates are cheaper then. He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing members and he does virtually no advertising. When I got set-up, they had a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately when you call. ) I think they are able to get back to prospective new members the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased their staff. I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above form to them, that is the way to get started! They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. They then send you email that outlines how his club works and the list of free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what he sells; and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly, no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and answer all your questions. Once you get in, you'll love them. I do. Sincerely, Shyamala Raperjee ps. please forward a copy of this message to all your friends on the net who you think might be interested in it! It is a great deal! If you join and then they join after you, you will earn a free 1 yr. subscription for each new person you get to join after you join! If you exceed 25 referrals, they let you use them to give away as gifts, for Christmas, Chanukah or any other occasion. Please be kind enough to mention my name when you join. I will then get a free magazine for a year for referring you. Thank you. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 19:13:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18182; Sun, 17 Mar 96 19:13:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28961; Sun, 17 Mar 96 19:09:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28955; Sun, 17 Mar 96 19:09:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyVHe-00038FC; Sun, 17 Mar 96 19:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Christopher Steven Williams Subject: Need help: can PINE reject letters from A sender? Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 15:05:25 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can PINE reject letters from specific senders. Is this a procmail problem? If it is, I would really appreciate some info on the matter. Thanks! "Which would you rather do..." _The State_ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Christopher Williams University of Oregon School of Music cwilliam@gladstone.uoregon.edu home: (541) 683-6322 http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~cwilliam fax: (541) 683-8344 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 20:40:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20023; Sun, 17 Mar 96 20:40:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00357; Sun, 17 Mar 96 20:32:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs.stritch.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00351; Sun, 17 Mar 96 20:32:10 -0800 Received: by acs.stritch.edu; id AA09937; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:32:57 -0600 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:32:57 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Esten To: Daniel Green Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How do I Download GIF with ZTerm? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ...so what part of this don't you understand? You save the file in your home directory on the unix server and then use zmodem to download it to your local hard drive...you've done part of the job..just finish it off! Jim Jim Esten (temporarily between .sigs) On Sun, 17 Mar 1996, Daniel Green wrote: > I am using PINE 3.91 (UNIX) from my MAC with ZTerm 1.0b3. I am unable to > save non-text (e.g., images) to my hard drive. How do I do this with > "message body" or "attachments"? > > When I tried to download Email GIF, PINE gave me the following message: > "[Part 1, Image/GIF 11KB] > [Can not display this part. Use the "V" command to save in a file]" > > Then I pressed "V" and got: > " 1 11 KB Image > [Message 1 has only one part (the message body), and no attachments.]" > > Pressing "S" gives me: > "Copy attachment to file in current directory:" > > What configurations/commands are needed for Pine, UNIX and/or ZTerm? > > Daniel > dgreen@netope.harvard.edu > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 21:00:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20386; Sun, 17 Mar 96 21:00:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00651; Sun, 17 Mar 96 20:53:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jaring.my by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00639; Sun, 17 Mar 96 20:53:13 -0800 Received: from upm.edu.my (scc.upm.edu.my [202.184.17.1]) by jaring.my (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA04784 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 12:52:39 +0800 (MYT) Received: from sstud (stud.upm.edu.my) by upm.edu.my (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27464; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 12:53:53 -0800 Received: by sstud (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02595; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 12:53:50 -0800 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 12:53:50 -0800 (GMT) From: Chai Sau San To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello,Nice to meet you, I'm a marine science student from University Pertanian Malaysia.I wish to contact with somebody who are interest in this program.However,I'm just a new person in this field.I really hope that I can get some advices and help in this feild. S.S Malaysia. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 21:53:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21188; Sun, 17 Mar 96 21:53:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01298; Sun, 17 Mar 96 21:44:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01292; Sun, 17 Mar 96 21:44:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyXjV-00038FC; Sun, 17 Mar 96 21:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Newsgroup Order Date: 16 Mar 1996 02:47:14 GMT Message-Id: <4ida3i$4nk@news.ysu.edu> References: In a previous article, calguire@freenet.msp.mn.us (Tony Calguire) says: >> .dotfile. So instead of typing ^R then ^T, type ^R then .newsrc or > >Well, I tried it, but these Freenet guys are awfully good. I got a "Read >permission denied .newsrc" message when I tried to read in the file. >Even if I had been able to do it, I wouldn't have been able to save it. This is no longer Pine-related, but FreeNet .resource files are stored in a separate directory from your work directory where you see all your files. So, if this would work, you would probably need to read ../.newsrc or ~/.newsrc or comparable. But I suspect this has been disabled. -- Barry Bouwsma, Intanet an' Netwerkin' gooru-type kind o' nerd Radio Praha, Cesky Rozhlas 7; Vinohradska 12; CZ-120 99 Praha 2; Czechistan __________http://www.radio.cz for info from Radio Prague This sig is five lines long. Check your newsreader configuration if you do not From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 21:58:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21274; Sun, 17 Mar 96 21:58:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13418; Sun, 17 Mar 96 21:54:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jaring.my by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13412; Sun, 17 Mar 96 21:54:05 -0800 Received: from upm.edu.my (scc.upm.edu.my [202.184.17.1]) by jaring.my (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA08778 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 13:53:48 +0800 (MYT) Received: from sstud (stud.upm.edu.my) by upm.edu.my (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27700; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 13:55:11 -0800 Received: by sstud (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02943; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 13:55:08 -0800 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 13:55:07 -0800 (GMT) From: Chai Sau San To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Excuse me, Is there any program or software in the Pine Sistem like IRC that we can talk with somebody there are on the line ??? THen ,how to get through it ?? P/s : Is there any line connect with University of Guelph in the internet talk ?? Thanks ! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 22:55:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22263; Sun, 17 Mar 96 22:55:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02141; Sun, 17 Mar 96 22:52:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail-e2a-service.gnn.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02135; Sun, 17 Mar 96 22:52:23 -0800 Received: from rattehous.com (ix-nbw-nj6-23.ix.netcom.com [205.184.5.215]) by mail-e2a-service.gnn.com (8.7.1/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA31955; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:21:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:21:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199603180321.WAA31955@mail-e2a-service.gnn.com> From: Jay.Betrug@mail-e2a-service.gnn.com To: warn-people@fictional.net Subject: Racist newsgroup proposal alert! There is currently a proposal for the newsgroup rec.music.white-power, an attempt by neo-nazi racists to legitimize their activities. It is now in the CFV stage, where anyone with a valid e-mail address may vote. "White power" racist music is not a legitimate form of music deserving of a separate rec.music newsgroup, but rather a political group masquerading as a musical one. And, the rec.* hierarchy is inappropriate because rec.* is for recreational activities, and racism is anything but recreational. But, most importantly, we must show the racists that they will not be granted a mainstream forum in order to promote hate. If you don't want a Usenet where minorities feel unwelcome and uncomfortable, vote NO on rec.music.white-power. Let's make this a crushing defeat for racists. To vote, send e-mail to music-vote@sub-rosa.com and put I vote NO on rec.music.white-power in the body of the message. The actual CFV can be found on news.announce.newsgroups, or by sending a blank e-mail to music-cfv@sub-rosa.com. Voting ends 23:59:59 UTC, 18 Mar 1996, so act quickly! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 23:23:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22583; Sun, 17 Mar 96 23:23:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14400; Sun, 17 Mar 96 23:14:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14394; Sun, 17 Mar 96 23:14:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyZ61-00038FC; Sun, 17 Mar 96 23:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Using MH folders - how? Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 17:01:28 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4i40d7$2ms@kuikka.inet.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine supports MH folders. Your .mh_profile file must define the Path:. Maybe you have a tab after "Path:" instead of a space? On Sun, 17 Mar 1996, Simon Bennett wrote: > Jeffrey Goldberg (cc047@ecs.pc.Cranfield.ac.uk) wrote: > : -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > : On 12 Mar 1996, Timo Lehtinen wrote: > > : > How can I persuade Pine (running on LINUX) to treat ~/Mail as > : > an MH style folder collection. I've tried every imaginable > : > permution using #mh/ in my .pinerc "folder-collections=" line > : > with no success. > > : My .pinerc has something like this: > : folder-collections=Main mail/[], > : Computer-Centre mail/CCC/[], > : Email mail/Email/[], > : People mail/People/[], > : PGP mail/PGP/[], > : Mngmt-CM mail/Mgmt/[], > : Usenet mail/Usenet/[], > : Linguistics mail/Ling/[], > : WWW mail/WWW/[], > : Business mail/Biz/[], > : Hungarian mail/Magyar/[], > : MH #mh/[], > : TeX mail/TeX/[] > > > : It works except that I can't get pine to read ~/Mail/inbox (MH's "inbox") > > Unless PINE's got a new feature I don't know about, it can't read the MH style > messages (which are stored in separate files) - you can however convert MH > "folders" into mail style files which can be read by pine/elm/mailx etc.. The > easiest way is to use packmbox.sh which comes in the MH 6.8 ditribution. > > If you end up hating PINE you can always go back to MH by re inc'ing the PINE > files back into MH "folders". > > -- > +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > Simon Bennett simonb@wormald.com.au > Wormald Technology Advanced Systems Engineering Ph: +61 2 9981 0611 (x512) > > Common Sense doesn't seem to be > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 17 23:55:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23034; Sun, 17 Mar 96 23:55:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02768; Sun, 17 Mar 96 23:49:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02762; Sun, 17 Mar 96 23:49:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyZfL-00038FC; Sun, 17 Mar 96 23:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Tin & signature file Date: 18 Mar 1996 03:02:43 GMT Message-Id: <4iijoj$25k@fu-berlin.de> References: <4ifd4g$20u@white.lambton.on.ca> rupfold@white.lambton.on.ca (Rod Upfold) writes: >Does the "Tin" news reader not like "Pico" signature files Why should tin look at the setup used by pine? Why should pine look at the setup used by tin? Why don't you setup both tin and pine to use the same signature file? Why don't you RTFM? Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 18 00:36:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23651; Mon, 18 Mar 96 00:36:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15276; Mon, 18 Mar 96 00:34:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15270; Mon, 18 Mar 96 00:34:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyaM8-00038FC; Mon, 18 Mar 96 00:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Specific E-Mail to specific folders question Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 18:10:39 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 16 Mar 1996, Steven wrote: > I was wondering if there's a way to get specific E-Mail (like > this mailing list for example) in seperate folders? Please post/mail > with answers and thanks in advance for any help. Pine will not do this for you. You need to use some other program which will presort the incoming mail into folders before Pine gets hold of it. Two popular programs for doing this on Unix systems are Filter and Procmail. If you have a Web browser, browse my home page and follow the link to Nancy McGough's pages. After you follow a few links there, she has material on mail filtering. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 18 02:00:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25510; Mon, 18 Mar 96 02:00:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16236; Mon, 18 Mar 96 01:55:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha2.curtin.edu.au by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16230; Mon, 18 Mar 96 01:55:07 -0800 Received: from alpha2.curtin.edu.au by alpha2.curtin.edu.au (PMDF V5.0-4 #7809) id <01I2HQJMSNMOEY879Q@alpha2.curtin.edu.au> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 17:38:41 +0000 (WST) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 17:38:41 +0000 (WST) From: Ultimate ShaqMan To: Pine info Team Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I notice that u can have nickname for an address.. But.. can u have one single nickname for a group of addresses ?? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 18 02:36:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26094; Mon, 18 Mar 96 02:36:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04721; Mon, 18 Mar 96 02:32:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04715; Mon, 18 Mar 96 02:32:41 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 18 Mar 1996 10:29:13 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA27141; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 10:30:35 GMT Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 10:30:35 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Ultimate ShaqMan Cc: Pine info Team Subject: Re: Lists of addresses In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes, you can set up a nick-name that expands to a list of e-mail addresses. Go into Pine's Address Book screen and look at the menu at the bottom of the screen. You want to try the "S" and "Z" commands. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 18 Mar 1996, Ultimate ShaqMan wrote: > I notice that u can have nickname for an address.. > But.. can u have one single nickname for a group of addresses ?? > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 18 05:05:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29383; Mon, 18 Mar 96 05:05:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06557; Mon, 18 Mar 96 04:50:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jumbo.ntplx.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06551; Mon, 18 Mar 96 04:50:29 -0800 Received: by ntplx.net (4.1/NETPLEX-2.3.1) id AA09501; Mon, 18 Mar 96 07:50:27 EST Received: by quoin1.quoininc.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tySqF-000FEbC; Sun, 17 Mar 96 19:30 EST Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 19:30:29 -0500 (EST) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: Richard Lay Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: newbie using pine on linux In-Reply-To: <4iac8g$73k@poisson.nosc.mil> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 15 Mar 1996, Richard Lay wrote: > When I attempt to send mail with pine (os is linux) I get "can't > load library libgdbm.so.2" Any suggestions? (besides "don't use Check that libgdbm.so.2 is on your system. It normally is in /usr/lib. If it isn't, try finding it with the "find" command. Jean Pierre LeJacq __ ____ __ __ ____/\_\ ____ Quoin Inc / __ \/\ \/\ \ / __ \/\ \ / _ \ 124 Mount Auburn Street /\ \_\ \ \ \_\ \/\ \_\ \ \ \/\ \/\ \ Cambridge, MA 02138-5700 \ \___ \ \____/\ \____/\ \_\ \_\ \_\ USA \/___/\ \/___/ \/___/ \/_/\/_/\/_/ \ \_\ voice: +1.617.576.5885 \/_/ OBJECT CONSULTANTS fax: +1.617.576.5876 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 18 08:30:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04817; Mon, 18 Mar 96 08:30:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09788; Mon, 18 Mar 96 08:20:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09782; Mon, 18 Mar 96 08:20:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyhdP-00038FC; Mon, 18 Mar 96 08:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jennifer DeSimone Subject: changing actual order of a folder Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 01:27:13 -0800 Message-Id: <314D2C71.7DCF@ling.ucsd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. Does anyone know of a way to permanently change the order of the messages in a a folder? Because I changed the way my messages are sorted and saved, everytime I open my folders, Pine has to take a few moments to sort. Is there a way to sort my messages and then SAVE them in that order so it doesn't have to sort every time I open the folder? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 18 08:37:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05075; Mon, 18 Mar 96 08:37:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21627; Mon, 18 Mar 96 08:21:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pobox.harvard.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21619; Mon, 18 Mar 96 08:21:36 -0800 Received: (from dgreen@localhost) by pobox.harvard.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA28392; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 11:17:31 -0500 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 11:17:29 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Green To: Jim Esten Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How do I Download GIF with ZTerm? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It works only if the file is in text format. I download it using the "sz" command. The text file gets downloaded onto my hard drive, as I wish. But, if the file is in another format (e.g., MS Word), nothing ends up on my drive. ZTerm reports that there were "too many errors" to process the request: "Data CRC error@o". On Sun, 17 Mar 1996, Jim Esten wrote: > Subject: Re: How do I Download GIF with ZTerm? > > ...so what part of this don't you understand? You save the file in your > home directory on the unix server and then use zmodem to download it to > your local hard drive...you've done part of the job..just finish it off! > > Jim > > Jim Esten > (temporarily between .sigs) > > On Sun, 17 Mar 1996, Daniel Green wrote: > > > I am using PINE 3.91 (UNIX) from my MAC with ZTerm 1.0b3. I am unable to > > save non-text (e.g., images) to my hard drive. How do I do this with > > "message body" or "attachments"? > > > > When I tried to download Email GIF, PINE gave me the following message: > > "[Part 1, Image/GIF 11KB] > > [Can not display this part. Use the "V" command to save in a file]" > > > > Then I pressed "V" and got: > > " 1 11 KB Image > > [Message 1 has only one part (the message body), and no attachments.]" > > > > Pressing "S" gives me: > > "Copy attachment to file in current directory:" > > > > What configurations/commands are needed for Pine, UNIX and/or ZTerm? > > > > Daniel > > dgreen@netope.harvard.edu > > Daniel Green From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 18 09:48:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08897; Mon, 18 Mar 96 09:48:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12234; Mon, 18 Mar 96 09:38:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12228; Mon, 18 Mar 96 09:38:41 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22826; Mon, 18 Mar 96 09:38:35 -0800 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 09:38:35 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Alessandro MIOTTO Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problems with headers from Quickmail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 17 Mar 1996, Alessandro MIOTTO wrote: > To make users happy I had to patch mailview.c and not set the has_name > variable when the 'name' value is "Message Body". > > Any comments? > > Alessandro We'll do the same in Pine3.92. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 18 09:50:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09005; Mon, 18 Mar 96 09:50:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24027; Mon, 18 Mar 96 09:40:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24021; Mon, 18 Mar 96 09:40:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyitm-00038FC; Mon, 18 Mar 96 09:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeff Scarborough Subject: Re: Using MH folders - how? Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 09:05:53 -0700 Message-Id: <314D89E1.71B6@Colorado.EDU> References: <4i40d7$2ms@kuikka.inet.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > ... > > It works except that I can't get pine to read ~/Mail/inbox (MH's "inbox") > > ... You can get pine to read your inbox, it even does an inc at the appropriate times (at startup and when you ask to see new mail). In addition to setting your folder collections set your inbox-path also like this: # Path of (local or remote) INBOX, e.g. ={mail.somewhere.edu}inbox # Normal Unix default is the local INBOX (usually /usr/spool/mail/$USER). inbox-path=#MHINBOX -- Jeff Scarborough Jeff.Scarborough@Colorado.EDU University of Colorado Computing & Network Services Campus Box 455 Boulder, Colorado 80309-0455 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 18 10:55:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11779; Mon, 18 Mar 96 10:55:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14218; Mon, 18 Mar 96 10:46:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailbox2.ucsd.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14212; Mon, 18 Mar 96 10:46:13 -0800 Received: from ling.ucsd.edu (ling.ucsd.edu [132.239.194.2]) by UCSD.EDU (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA20506 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 10:45:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by ling.ucsd.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4-UCSD.1) id AA04261; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 10:45:17 -0800 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 10:45:17 -0800 (PST) From: Jennifer DeSimone To: pine Subject: unsubscribe Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 18 11:55:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14258; Mon, 18 Mar 96 11:55:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15744; Mon, 18 Mar 96 11:35:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15737; Mon, 18 Mar 96 11:35:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tykeP-00038FC; Mon, 18 Mar 96 11:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pww@bnr.ca (Peter Whittaker) Subject: Having pine 3.92 understand URLs.... Date: 18 Mar 1996 17:33:46 GMT Message-Id: <4ik6pq$prv@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> IWBNI pine 3.92 or some later version understood URLs embedded in message text. For example: I receive a message that includes URLs, I press the "follow URLs" command key, pine prompts me with a list of numbered URLs from the message body and asks which one I would like to follow: when I select one, pine fires off an external program to handle that URL. The config menu would include a mapping between URL type and external application to use to against that type. For example, ftp URLs would activate an ncftp session to retrieve the named file. Configuration of the external URL handler would be up to me, and would not be done from within pine. Configuration information would include whether to process the URL inline/in the foreground (fork and exec handler, wait for handler to complete, handler takes over the screen) or offline/in the background (fork and exec handler, handler detaches, pine doesn't wait around). Even better would be the ability to send into the background a URL being handled in the foreground (the ability to recall it later is not necessary, though IAWBN). pww -- Peter Whittaker [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] X.500 Specialist pww@entrust.com [ http://www.entrust.com ] Nortel Secure Networks Ph: +1 613 765 2064 [ ] P.O. Box 3511, Station C FAX:+1 613 765 3520 [__________________________] Ottawa, Canada, K1Y 4H7 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 18 13:02:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16915; Mon, 18 Mar 96 13:02:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29364; Mon, 18 Mar 96 12:56:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nethost.ocln.org by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29358; Mon, 18 Mar 96 12:56:14 -0800 Received: by nethost (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA04118; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 16:03:56 -0800 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 16:03:55 -0800 (PST) From: David Slater To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Z in pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have two questions regarding unix pine, the first is: How do I disable the suspend (^z) command in unix pine. My users get hung, and besides they have no need for suspending processes. The other question is: I have a file that I want to to use as an email template. I thought I would just tell my users to us the ^r to pull up the template. The problem is that with permissions such as they are on my machine, I would have to create a copy for each user's home dir. Does anyone have a good solution? Thanks in advance. David Slater, Network Administrator dslater@ocln.org Old Colony Library Network phone 617-828-9764 Canton MA 02021 fax 617-828-6458 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 18 13:08:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18024; Mon, 18 Mar 96 13:08:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17815; Mon, 18 Mar 96 13:01:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from comoro.yorku.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17809; Mon, 18 Mar 96 13:01:29 -0800 Received: from dekan.phoenix.yorku.ca (5D+jliILUHlzLDCYEDBEhcC4wcke2Dba@dekan.phoenix.yorku.ca [130.63.236.46]) by comoro.yorku.ca (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id QAA64697 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 16:01:28 -0500 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 16:01:27 -0500 (EST) From: Sam Hindawi X-Sender: samh@dekan.phoenix.yorku.ca To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: unsubscribe Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 18 14:47:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21980; Mon, 18 Mar 96 14:47:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02334; Mon, 18 Mar 96 14:41:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02327; Mon, 18 Mar 96 14:41:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tynbZ-00038FC; Mon, 18 Mar 96 14:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jnassis@shiva.Hunter.CUNY.EDU Subject: accidental deletion Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 11:06:45 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I deleted my read-messages file and now i don't know if it is at all possible to get the stuff back. If there is a way, please tell me how to do this. jnassis@shiva.hunter.cuny.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 18 15:25:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23125; Mon, 18 Mar 96 15:25:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03016; Mon, 18 Mar 96 15:09:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from falcon.lhup.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03010; Mon, 18 Mar 96 15:09:55 -0800 Received: by falcon.lhup.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA21918; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 18:02:35 -0500 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 18:02:34 -0500 (EST) From: Garou To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: unsubscribe Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 18 16:09:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24331; Mon, 18 Mar 96 16:09:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22684; Mon, 18 Mar 96 16:01:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22678; Mon, 18 Mar 96 16:01:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyop0-00038FC; Mon, 18 Mar 96 15:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lef@wuacn.wustl.edu (Lori Fox) Subject: Save me from myself? Date: 18 Mar 1996 22:19:31 GMT Message-Id: <4iknhj$fc7@newsreader.wustl.edu> I have too often "replied" to a group when I really meant to reply to an individual. (I know that pine asks me if I want to send it to a different address or to all recipients and that I have to say "yes" if I do, but I repeatedly find that my fingers are working faster than my mind.) Is there any way to disable these functions so I have to manually *add* a cc if I want to send the document to a group? I would be grateful (and my many correspondents would be really grateful) if you could suggest a solution. LEF From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 18 16:35:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25341; Mon, 18 Mar 96 16:35:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05000; Mon, 18 Mar 96 16:31:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04994; Mon, 18 Mar 96 16:31:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0typG4-00038TC; Mon, 18 Mar 96 16:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dcop@earth.execpc.com (dennis m.) Subject: Can mail be blocked? Date: Mon, 18 Mar 96 23:21:45 GMT Message-Id: <4ikr2n$aht@daily-planet.execpc.com> Hi, Is it possible to block mail from certain domains. If so, how and do you do it with pine or somewhere in your shell. thanx in advance, dennis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 18 16:45:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25623; Mon, 18 Mar 96 16:45:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23702; Mon, 18 Mar 96 16:41:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23696; Mon, 18 Mar 96 16:41:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0typR2-00038FC; Mon, 18 Mar 96 16:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Need help: can PINE reject letters from A sender? Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 08:34:14 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 17 Mar 1996, Christopher Steven Williams wrote: > Can PINE reject letters from specific senders. Is this a procmail > problem? If it is, I would really appreciate some info on the matter. Pine cannot do this, but yes, procmail certainly can. Good procmail documentation (if any exists) can show you how, and there is a procmail mailing list (unfortunately I do not have the address at hand). If nothing else, you can set up procmail recipes to have mail from specific senders delivered to /dev/null, although I have heard that this is not the most effcient way to do it. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 18 16:49:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25875; Mon, 18 Mar 96 16:49:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05241; Mon, 18 Mar 96 16:41:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05235; Mon, 18 Mar 96 16:41:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0typRM-00038TC; Mon, 18 Mar 96 16:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andy@ben.franklin.uga.edu (Andrew Seabolt) Subject: Printing PC-PINE mail in a duplex-printing environment Date: 18 Mar 1996 14:33:27 GMT Message-Id: <4ijs7n$3t3@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> Hi! I've been reading this newsgroup off and on for about a year now and have just run into my first problem. One of the users here has just gotten a nifty duplex printing HP LaserJet 4M+ and the duplexing tray. We've set her up to print under WordPerfect 6.0 and Windows 3.1 so that it will print singly or doubly according to that programs' specifications. Now, as I can see it, most of her documents are going to be single-page and 90% of the time she will be able to handle having a ^L addended to her print job in order to make the duplexer spit out her one printed page. Am I overlooking something obvious? Am I making her job more complicated than it already is (okay, okay, the duplexer is admittedly a little more than anyone else has in our environment)? If you have any helpful suggestions, I'm more than happy to listen and learn! Thanks! Andy Seabolt Network Services Specialist III Dean's Office, Franklin College of Arts and Sciences University of Georgia Athens, Georgia (706) 542-1546 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 18 18:50:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29786; Mon, 18 Mar 96 18:50:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26038; Mon, 18 Mar 96 18:44:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26032; Mon, 18 Mar 96 18:44:01 -0800 Received: from srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca by freenet.calgary.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA46780; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 19:40:42 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 19:40:42 -0700 (MST) From: Dean Radojevich To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: dradojev@freenet.calgary.ab.ca Subject: formatting Message-Id: Organization: Calgary Free-Net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To whom it may concern: Lately I had some dificulties to download files from my mailbox. After specifying where to save the file, overwritting it and pressing Y for printing I am getting the following message: formatting error: error writting pipe: error writting attachment to "/u/dradojev/... What shall I do to overcome this problem ?; everything worked fine until a few days ago. Regards,Dean Radojevic dradojev@freenet.calgary.ab.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 18 20:25:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01886; Mon, 18 Mar 96 20:25:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27342; Mon, 18 Mar 96 20:21:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27336; Mon, 18 Mar 96 20:21:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tystz-00038FC; Mon, 18 Mar 96 20:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joe Klein Subject: Re: About the "Return-Receipt-To:" custom header Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 08:19:20 +0200 Message-Id: References: <4hr081$kam@crl14.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Not necessarily; it depends on the target system. When I sent messages to my sister-in-law with the Return-Receipt field, I got back a response when she accessed the message. Something like user foobar accessed your message at Jan 5 8:05 AM. This seem to be exception, but it does exist. Joe On Sun, 10 Mar 1996, Eric wrote: > On 8 Mar 1996, Mark Tangard wrote: > > > Does it send the return receipt when the message ARRIVES at the > > addressee's mailbox, or when it gets READ? > > "ARRIVES". > Returning a receipt when an e-mail gets READ is considered by some > people an intrusion of privacy. > "Why do I have to tell you whehter I've read your e-mail?!!" ;-) > > Hope this helps. > > Eric > > ,-----------------------------------------------------------. > | Eric Tse Just An Occasional Net-Surfer | > | jyetse@uwaterloo.ca IRC / WebChat Nickname : NeonCity | > `---- http://www.undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca/~jyetse/ ----' > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 18 20:52:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02390; Mon, 18 Mar 96 20:52:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09143; Mon, 18 Mar 96 20:46:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09137; Mon, 18 Mar 96 20:46:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tytGI-00038FC; Mon, 18 Mar 96 20:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: ^L on a NeXT In-Reply-To: jdelany@fermat.foe.calpoly.edu's message of 14 Mar 1996 13: 51:55 -0800 Message-Id: References: <9603142136.AA22929@fermat.foe.calpoly.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 18:44:09 GMT In article <9603142136.AA22929@fermat.foe.calpoly.edu> jdelany@fermat.foe.calpoly.edu (Jim Delany) writes: I'm running Pine 3.88 under NeXTSTEP 3.0 on a NeXTstation. The only problem I've encountered is in fetching new mail before Pine does it's regular update every 2.5 minutes. The documentation says that this can be done by either (a) going to the bottom of the index and hitting N five times (this works) or (b) using CONTROL-L. Well, ^L DOES refresh the screen, as expected, but it doesn't update the index. Feature (b) was introduced in version 3.90. Upgrade, and you'll have it. Regards, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4824 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 18 22:33:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03912; Mon, 18 Mar 96 22:33:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10436; Mon, 18 Mar 96 22:28:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jeffco.k12.co.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10430; Mon, 18 Mar 96 22:28:57 -0800 Received: from 204.98.1.219 ([204.98.1.219]) by jeffco.k12.co.us (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA11988 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 23:27:24 -0700 Message-Id: <314DF25F.7B5D@jeffco.k12.co.us> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 23:31:43 +0000 From: Sally Vaughan X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Has my mail been read????? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How can I tell if a e-mail message I have sent through pine has been read by the person I sent it to???? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 18 23:20:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04803; Mon, 18 Mar 96 23:20:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11125; Mon, 18 Mar 96 23:17:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11119; Mon, 18 Mar 96 23:17:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyvdc-00038TC; Mon, 18 Mar 96 23:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rupfold@white.lambton.on.ca (Rod Upfold) Subject: Zip files Date: 18 Mar 1996 13:13:25 -0500 Message-Id: <4ik945$gvi@white.lambton.on.ca> I was sent a HTML offline freeware through the Email.....it looks very interesting. What do I do with it.... Thank you Rod Upfold -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 18 23:22:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04841; Mon, 18 Mar 96 23:22:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29690; Mon, 18 Mar 96 23:17:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29684; Mon, 18 Mar 96 23:17:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tyvcM-00038FC; Mon, 18 Mar 96 23:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Seth Rogovoy Subject: Add folder-collections? Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 19:06:38 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In three months using PINE, I've amassed about 60 different folders for saved messages. Right now, they are all housed in the original default "Folders-collection'' folder list. Is it possible to subdivide my "Folders-collection" into 5 or 10 different "folders collections"? For example, there would be one complete folder-collection for messages to relatives called "Family", with separate folders for each person. Perhaps another for some of my favorite newsgroup postings called "Newsgroup", divided by topic. Another folder-collection would be for professional correspondence, with separate folders for each business contact. And so on. How can I create these additional Folder-collections? How can I name them? And Can I transfer messages from one folder-collection into another? ***************************************** Seth Rogovoy rogovoy@berkshire.net http://www.berkshireweb.com/rogovoy music news, interviews, reviews, et. al. ***************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 01:30:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07589; Tue, 19 Mar 96 01:30:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01316; Tue, 19 Mar 96 01:27:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01310; Tue, 19 Mar 96 01:26:53 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:24:01 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA20230; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:25:07 GMT Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:25:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Jennifer DeSimone Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: changing actual order of a folder In-Reply-To: <314D2C71.7DCF@ling.ucsd.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII CAUTION: ------- This method should work on folders other than the INBOX. It _may_ not work on the INBOX, and _won't_ work for Usenet News groups. To be 100% safe you should make a backup of your folder before doing this technique (although I haven't lost any messages yet doing it, but have never run out of disk space part way through either!:-) PREPARATION: ----------- The following assumes you are using Pine 3.91, and also have the "enable-aggregate-command-set" option selected in the Setup Configuration screen (S then C from the Main Menu). If you don't, you will need to do this first. METHOD: ------ 1. Open the folder you wish to sort. 2. $ ... Sort the folder ($ then the sort method). 3. ; A Select all the messages in the folder. 4. A S foldername Apply a Save to the selected messages, and save them back into the same folder. 5. ^L Check that the messages appear in the folder: each should now be there twice - once as the old message, marked for Delete, once as the newly saved message. 6. X Expunge the deleted messages from the folder. NOTE: ---- This has sorted the actual order in which the messages are stored in your folder. Thus if you now display the folder sorted by "arrival" (actually the order in which the messages appear in the folder) you'll get an index of all your messages in the order you want, quickly. However if you leave the folder set to sort "by " I suspect you won't see much, if any, speed improvement as Pine still needs to check through the folder to see if it needs re-ordering according to the selected sort method. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 18 Mar 1996, Jennifer DeSimone wrote: > Hi. Does anyone know of a way to permanently change the order of > the messages in a a folder? Because I changed the way my messages > are sorted and saved, everytime I open my folders, Pine has to take > a few moments to sort. Is there a way to sort my messages and then > SAVE them in that order so it doesn't have to sort every time I open > the folder? > > Thanks. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 01:46:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07834; Tue, 19 Mar 96 01:46:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12935; Tue, 19 Mar 96 01:43:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12929; Tue, 19 Mar 96 01:43:01 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:38:08 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA22112; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:39:15 GMT Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:39:15 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Sally Vaughan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Has my mail been read????? In-Reply-To: <314DF25F.7B5D@jeffco.k12.co.us> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You could contact them and ask them! Seriously, there are mechanisms to *request* a message be sent back to you automatically when your message is delivered and/or read. However whether these requests are actually honoured depends on whether: * The mail delivery software (for delivery receipt requests) or mail reading software (for read receipt requests) actually supports the feature, and * Whether the feature is enabled or not by the System Administrator/user. Pine 3.91, for example, does not include support for automatic acknowledgement of messages that have been read. (Some people, including myself, consider such automatic notification an invasion of my privacy ... why should my software tell you when I've read your message?!) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 18 Mar 1996, Sally Vaughan wrote: > How can I tell if a e-mail message I have sent through pine has been > read by the person I sent it to???? > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 04:19:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11357; Tue, 19 Mar 96 04:19:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03480; Tue, 19 Mar 96 04:12:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03474; Tue, 19 Mar 96 04:12:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tz0CT-00038FC; Tue, 19 Mar 96 04:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Distribution Lists Show All Names Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 18:13:51 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 16 Mar 1996, Edgar Lynk wrote: > I want to send the same message to each address in a > distribution list (created with the "S" command), but > don't wan't _all_ the addresses listed in the "To:" > field of every message. Just want one. Is there a > way of accomplishing this? Probably the simplest way is to put *yourself* in the To: field and the distribution list in the Bcc: field (use Rich Headers if you need to). Then all the list recipients will only see his/her own address when the mail actually arrives. (You need to put something in the To: field to protect yourself from some mailers.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 04:32:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11692; Tue, 19 Mar 96 04:32:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14925; Tue, 19 Mar 96 04:22:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14919; Tue, 19 Mar 96 04:22:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tz0PW-00038FC; Tue, 19 Mar 96 04:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: g053200@spdsjw.gteds.gtenet.com (Stephen J. Weihman) Subject: Re: Add folder-collections? Date: 18 Mar 1996 22:32:46 GMT Message-Id: <4ikoae$871@ceylon.gte.com> References: In article , Seth Rogovoy writes: >In three months using PINE, I've amassed about 60 different folders for >saved messages. Right now, they are all housed in the original default >"Folders-collection'' folder list. > >Is it possible to subdivide my "Folders-collection" into 5 or 10 >different "folders collections"? Certainly is. Go to Setup/Config from the Pine main menu. There is a listing for folder-collections. Simply put the directories you want there. >For example, there would be one complete folder-collection for >messages to relatives called "Family", with separate folders for each person. Using your example above, the folder-collections list would be: folder-collections = mail/[] mail/Family/[] >How can I create these additional Folder-collections? How can I name >them? And Can I transfer messages from one folder-collection into another? Simply create a directory, and copy any existing folders to that directory. Then add the directory to your folder-collections as above. A sample of my folder collections is below: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Incoming Message Folders -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- INBOX -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Folder-collection ** Default for Saves ** (Local) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- sent-mail READBOX SeOS banyan cc3 ccds diskfull golf hpux10 i installs myrick oserv r readbox s2 sd status tcs tip -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Folder-collection (Local) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- READBOX-apr-1995 READBOX-dec-1995 READBOX-feb-1995 READBOX-feb-1996 READBOX-jan-1996 READBOX-jul-1995 READBOX-jun-1995 READBOX-mar-1995 READBOX-may-1995 READBOX-nov-1995 READBOX-oct-1995 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Folder-collection (Local) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- installs-apr-1995 installs-aug-1995 installs-dec-1995 installs-feb-1996 installs-jan-1996 installs-jul-1995 installs-may-1995 installs-oct-1995 installs-sep-1995 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Folder-collection (Local) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- sent-mail-apr-1995 sent-mail-aug-1995 sent-mail-dec-1995 sent-mail-feb-1996 sent-mail-jan-1996 sent-mail-jul-1995 sent-mail-jun-1995 sent-mail-mar-1995 sent-mail-may-1995 sent-mail-nov-1995 sent-mail-oct-1995 sent-mail-sep-1995 -- Ideas are not responsible for their followers. -- ------------------------------------------------------- -- Stephen J. Weihman -*- GTE Data Services -- ------------------------------------------------------- -- The opinions expressed herein are entirely my -- -- own, and are not necessarily those of GTE. -- ------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 07:26:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15140; Tue, 19 Mar 96 07:26:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05957; Tue, 19 Mar 96 07:19:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha4.curtin.edu.au by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05947; Tue, 19 Mar 96 07:18:59 -0800 Received: from alpha2.curtin.edu.au by alpha2.curtin.edu.au (PMDF V5.0-4 #7809) id <01I2JGQ9ZD7KEY8PS1@alpha2.curtin.edu.au> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 23:19:18 +0000 (WST) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 23:19:18 +0000 (WST) From: Ultimate ShaqMan To: Pine info Team Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT when u r using the address book distribution list (to a group of members) can you put the names of those members down ?? COz. at the moment, I can only write the name of the group and the adresses down... thanks.. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 09:23:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19109; Tue, 19 Mar 96 09:23:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08175; Tue, 19 Mar 96 09:03:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08163; Tue, 19 Mar 96 09:03:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tz4jc-00038TC; Tue, 19 Mar 96 08:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jac@junior.wariat.org (Jack Zupan) Subject: Disabling new message announcement Date: 18 Mar 1996 17:55:55 GMT Message-Id: <4ik83b$qf3@wariat.wariat.org> I've searched the help files and can't find this addressed: how can I disable the beep and announcement of a newly received message? - Jack ~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~'~ o/~ "Music is God's voice" )Jack Zupan )jac@apk.net - Brian Wilson - ) Keet (^,^) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 10:43:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22218; Tue, 19 Mar 96 10:43:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22035; Tue, 19 Mar 96 10:35:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20684; Tue, 19 Mar 96 09:43:33 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20678; Tue, 19 Mar 96 09:43:28 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25057; Tue, 19 Mar 96 09:43:27 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:43:26 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Seibel To: Pine Announcement Distribution Subject: Pine and PC-Pine 3.92 now available Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System version 3.92. This release represents an evolutionary step forward in Pine functionality. Nearly every facet of Pine's behavior has been improved in one way or another. In the interest of brevity, the full list of changes and enhancements isn't included here, but some of the main improvements are: o Optional message filtering hooks (can be used for PGP integration) o Extensive address and list management improvements o Additional printing capabilities o Improved MIME and non-ascii support (mime.types, 1522, 8BITMIME) o Improved PC-Pine for Windows (GUI amenities & 32bit version) o Some modest performance improvements o Many new personal-preference options and command improvements o Hooks for integral file transfer between desktop computer & Unix Pine o Builtin signature editor o Improved user feedback when Pine is busy or waiting A more detailed list can be found in the built-in release notes ("R" off the Main Menu). Even more information can be found via: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine and: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs Please bear in mind the following caveat: While we believe this version is reasonably stable, we consider it a "beta" code release. It has been exposed to limited testing, but has yet to be proven in a production environment. Pine version 3.92 source is available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz PC-Pine in available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine and precompiled binaries for the various systems we have direct access to are available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed We'd like to thank the countless many who have taken the time to send us valuable bug reports and suggestions, and welcome any comments you may have regarding this release. We hope you find Pine 3.92 useful! Sincerely, The Pine Development Team From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 12:02:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25642; Tue, 19 Mar 96 12:02:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24223; Tue, 19 Mar 96 11:51:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from voskovec.radio.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24217; Tue, 19 Mar 96 11:51:40 -0800 Received: from voskovec.radio.cz (voskovec.radio.cz [194.108.168.3]) by voskovec.radio.cz (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA21329; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 20:51:47 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 20:51:47 +0100 (MET) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= Reply-To: Barry.Bouwsma@tuke.sk To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, csinfo-l@earn.cvut.cz Subject: Re: Pine and PC-Pine 3.92 now available In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 19 Mar 1996, Michael Seibel wrote: > This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System > version 3.92. [...] > Pine version 3.92 source is available in: > > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z > and > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz My apologies in advance for this lengthy posting, which I am crossposting in English to the Czech/Slovak discussion group, when a short notice would probably have been more than adequate... This new release of Pine is being unofficially mirrored for the benefit of users in the Czech Republic, and in Slovakia, and in locations which are a quick hop away when you don't want to struggle to get the program from its original source at ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z or in GNU zipped form as pine.tar.gz. Users in CZ can find most of the Pine release available from ftp://ftp.radio.cz/mail/pine This will include the source and binaries as found on the Washington server. There are also parts of the IMAP archive from here and from CMU available for people who want to make use of the IMAP capabilities of Pine. However, there is no guarantee that the IMAP utilities available are as up-to-date as they are on the servers from which they were obtained. Please be patient if the entire release is not yet available -- the connection from here is slow and heavily-used, which is why I make this mirror available. Users in SK may use this FTP server, or may find it easier to obtain this release from Kosice at ftp://ftp.tuke.sk/pub/barry.bouwsma/pine (no, I didn't set this up.) However, from this server, you will probably only find the source code in gzipped form, docs, the PC-Pine versions, and gzipped Linux binaries. The original distribution is of course at ftp.cac.washington.edu, and users are advised to turn to this server for the most authoritative versions of Pine. I will PGP-sign those files which I have made available, but this should not be taken as proof that the files are authentic -- instead a trusted user should obtain the releases from Washington and verify that the copies I have made available have not been altered from the official copies. My PGP public key can be found by fingering barryb@ccsun.tuke.sk . Note that I have no connection with the Pine authors, and am merely providing this mirror, as well as my dubious claim that the programs have not been tampered with, as a courtesy for users in this part of the world who would rather not suffer through the hideously slow (when successful) FTP transfers one is lucky to have by day. I am also making available a binary for SGI, compiled on IRIX5.3, for users who want to place these binaries in /usr/local/bin or some similar appropriate place. This will be on the radio.cz FTP site. You will have to wait for an inst'able release to be provided from elsewhere. You may probably want to get the SGI binary from elsewhere anyway to be sure that the version you run e-mails your password to someone else and not to me. (1/2 :-) The remainder of this announcement is being posted only to pine-info, which is available as comp.mail.pine . However, because it will be several days until this post is seen here via Usenet, I am making this personal announcement available from the radio.cz FTP server as /mail/pine/zpravy . Barry Bouwsma, Radio Praha for public PGP key From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 12:33:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26528; Tue, 19 Mar 96 12:33:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13453; Tue, 19 Mar 96 12:24:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from maze.vsc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13447; Tue, 19 Mar 96 12:24:26 -0800 Received: from localhost by maze.vsc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/27Sep94-0126PM) id AA11771; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 15:24:58 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 15:24:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael H. Martel" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Different UserNames on Different IMAP servers. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings! I just downloaded Pine 3.92 and compiled it and it works great! Great job everyone! I noticed in the Release notes it says that I can now have different usernames on different IMAP servers. However I can't seem to get this to work. I have my incoming folders setup as : {host.domain.com}INBOX, so on and so forth. How do I tell Pine what Username to use ? Thanks for such a great product! Michael ------------------------------o--------------------------------- Michael H. Martel | Vermont State Colleges michael@maze.vsc.edu | Technical Support Specialist http://www.vsc.edu/~michael | PH:802-241-2535 FX:802-241-3363 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 12:44:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26952; Tue, 19 Mar 96 12:44:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25128; Tue, 19 Mar 96 12:32:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from maze.vsc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25122; Tue, 19 Mar 96 12:32:49 -0800 Received: from localhost by maze.vsc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/27Sep94-0126PM) id AA11902; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 15:33:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 15:33:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael H. Martel" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine 3.92 handles IMAP logins differently than 3.91. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings! I downloaded Pine 3.92 today and have been extremely impressed! However I have found something that is different, that I can't find mention of in the documentation. I did a build osf on my machine and go Pine compiled and running. I entered Pine and all worked well. I pressed to switch through my folders, and it prompts me for my username and password on the first of 4 IMAP hosts. Fine. I enter them and it Pine dutifully checks my email on those hosts. Then it searches my local folders (Pine and Procmail make a powerfull combination!) and returns me to my INBOX. Great! About 5 minutes later, I press again, and Pine goes and prompts me for my Username on two of the four IMAP servers. Whoa. 3.91 always remembered the Username and password for the session (until I exited Pine). Is this a feature of the new ability to have the .pinerc contain the username automatically ? Or is it just me ? Thanks! Michael ------------------------------o--------------------------------- Michael H. Martel | Vermont State Colleges michael@maze.vsc.edu | Technical Support Specialist http://www.vsc.edu/~michael | PH:802-241-2535 FX:802-241-3363 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 13:02:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27560; Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:02:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14061; Tue, 19 Mar 96 12:51:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14055; Tue, 19 Mar 96 12:51:44 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24293; Tue, 19 Mar 96 12:51:21 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 12:51:19 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: "Michael H. Martel" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Different UserNames on Different IMAP servers. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To specify a different username on the remote server, use {host.domain.com/user=somebody}INBOX |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 19 Mar 1996, Michael H. Martel wrote: > Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 15:24:58 -0500 (EST) > From: "Michael H. Martel" > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Different UserNames on Different IMAP servers. > Message-ID: > > > Greetings! > > I just downloaded Pine 3.92 and compiled it and it works great! Great job > everyone! > > I noticed in the Release notes it says that I can now have different > usernames on different IMAP servers. However I can't seem to get this to > work. I have my incoming folders setup as : > > {host.domain.com}INBOX, > so on and so forth. > > How do I tell Pine what Username to use ? > > Thanks for such a great product! > > Michael > > ------------------------------o--------------------------------- > Michael H. Martel | Vermont State Colleges > michael@maze.vsc.edu | Technical Support Specialist > http://www.vsc.edu/~michael | PH:802-241-2535 FX:802-241-3363 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 13:10:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28297; Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:10:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25665; Tue, 19 Mar 96 12:54:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25659; Tue, 19 Mar 96 12:54:56 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24410; Tue, 19 Mar 96 12:54:54 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 12:54:52 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Dean Radojevich Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: formatting In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is that the complete error message? Is it possible you are over-quota or otherwise out of disk space? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 18 Mar 1996, Dean Radojevich wrote: > Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 19:40:42 -0700 (MST) > From: Dean Radojevich > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Cc: dradojev@freenet.calgary.ab.ca > Subject: formatting > Message-ID: > Organization: Calgary Free-Net > > To whom it may concern: > Lately I had some dificulties to download files from my mailbox. > After specifying where to save the file, overwritting it and pressing Y > for printing I am getting the following message: > formatting error: error writting pipe: error writting attachment to > "/u/dradojev/... > What shall I do to overcome this problem ?; everything worked fine until > a few days ago. > Regards,Dean Radojevic > dradojev@freenet.calgary.ab.ca > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 13:23:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28981; Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:23:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26338; Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:17:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26332; Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:17:21 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24944; Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:17:12 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 13:17:11 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: jnassis@shiva.Hunter.CUNY.EDU Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: accidental deletion In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 18 Mar 1996 jnassis@shiva.Hunter.CUNY.EDU wrote: > I deleted my read-messages file and now i don't know if it is at all > possible to get the stuff back. If there is a way, please tell me how to > do this. > Ask your system administrator. It may be possible to retreive the file from a system backup. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 13:24:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29038; Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:24:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26346; Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:17:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from maze.vsc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26340; Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:17:27 -0800 Received: from localhost by maze.vsc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/27Sep94-0126PM) id AA12157; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 16:18:01 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 16:18:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael H. Martel" To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Different UserNames on Different IMAP servers. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 19 Mar 1996, David L Miller wrote: > To specify a different username on the remote server, use > > {host.domain.com/user=somebody}INBOX Thanks! That also fixes the problem I was seeing with the passwords being forgotten! Michael ------------------------------o--------------------------------- Michael H. Martel | Vermont State Colleges michael@maze.vsc.edu | Technical Support Specialist http://www.vsc.edu/~michael | PH:802-241-2535 FX:802-241-3363 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 13:26:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29133; Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:26:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26275; Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:14:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26267; Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:14:39 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24864; Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:14:33 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 13:14:31 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Jack Zupan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Disabling new message announcement In-Reply-To: <4ik83b$qf3@wariat.wariat.org> Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 18 Mar 1996, Jack Zupan wrote: > I've searched the help files and can't find this addressed: how can I > disable the beep and announcement of a newly received message? > In Pine 3.92, you can select the quell-status-message-beeping feature and/or set mail-check-interval to 0 to disable new mail checking entirely. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 13:30:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29391; Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:30:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26107; Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:08:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26101; Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:08:53 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24765; Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:08:50 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 13:08:47 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: David Slater Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Z in pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 18 Mar 1996, David Slater wrote: > > I have two questions regarding unix pine, the first is: How do I disable > the suspend (^z) command in unix pine. My users get hung, and besides > they have no need for suspending processes. > To completely disable suspend for all users, set feature-list=no-enable-suspend in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed. --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 13:58:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00888; Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:58:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15439; Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:47:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15433; Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:47:29 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26047; Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:47:19 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 13:47:18 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Daniel Green Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How do I Download GIF with ZTerm? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 17 Mar 1996, Daniel Green wrote: > I am using PINE 3.91 (UNIX) from my MAC with ZTerm 1.0b3. I am unable to > save non-text (e.g., images) to my hard drive. How do I do this with > "message body" or "attachments"? > If you have the current Pine 3.92 release, go to the Setup/Config screen and set the "download-command" to the command to download a file, e.g. "sz". Then the Export command and SaveAttachment commands will have a "^V" option to download the message/attachment directly to your computer. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 14:13:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01535; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:13:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27626; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:03:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27620; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:03:14 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26657; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:02:56 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 14:02:55 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: "Mr.Root" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: re Pine and POP3 & ISO-8859-X In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 16 Mar 1996, Mr.Root wrote: > Alternatively, an alternate editor which is aware of the > bi-directionality could be used instead of pico when typing in ISO-8859-6 > or -8. As far as I know, pico doesn't work so well with bidi text, though > it will give you no problems when you are properly configured for any of > the other ISO 8859 subsets. > There is a "Hebrew Pine" floating around that does support bi-directional editing. The necessary patches have not been incorporated into Pine, but we do plan to do something similar at some point... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 14:13:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01571; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:13:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15671; Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:55:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15665; Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:55:37 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26395; Tue, 19 Mar 96 13:55:33 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 13:55:31 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Steve Lowe Cc: Pine Information List Subject: Re: New Feature Request In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 17 Mar 1996, Steve Lowe wrote: > > I thought I would add my feature request. > > Where I previously worked, we had the capability to do an on-the-spot > query against a whois file to determine userids. We had about 6000+ > users so sometimes it was impossible to keep your addressbook up to date. > > It would be nice to have that kind of query ability to build a list of > userids. > We are planning to add some form of directory service support in Pine 4.something, but in the mean time you could set up a cron script to build a global-addressbook that Pine could use. 6000 entries should be quite manageable by Pine... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 14:21:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01978; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:21:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27872; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:12:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27866; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:12:24 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27094; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:12:00 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 14:11:58 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Carl Kim Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Sending copy to yourself? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 15 Mar 1996, Carl Kim wrote: > > Hello! > > I was wondering how I could configure Pine to automagically send me a copy > of any message that I had composed. I looked into the config menu but could > not find out how. > In the config menu, check the settings of fcc-name-rule and default-fcc. Those variables determine where to save a copy of outgoing messages. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 14:35:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02572; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:35:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16462; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:28:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16449; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:28:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tz9qH-00038TC; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: steck@acm.org (Paul A. Steckler) Subject: SOFT> WinBiff 3.3c available Message-Id: Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 12:39:15 GMT WinBiff 3.3 c has been released, and is available at ftp://ftp.tucows.com/tucows/wnbff33c.zip On CompuServe, look for WNBFF33C.ZIP in the NOVUSER forum. The WinBiff home page is http://www.pacengr.com/winbiff/winbiff.htm. WinBiff is an email notification program that works with a number of different mail agents, including Pegasus Mail, Eudora for Windows, cc:Mail, MS Mail, and new in this release, MS Exchange. WinBiff also is a POP3 and IMAP client under WinSock. This update fixes a couple of small bugs. -- Paul From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 14:37:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02696; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:37:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28269; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:28:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28263; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:28:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tz9q2-00038FC; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nevin Kapur Subject: Re: Sending copy to yourself? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <314DA3E1.46BF@bhairav.ee.iitb.ernet.in> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 17:56:49 GMT Carl Kim wrote: > > Hello! > > I was wondering how I could configure Pine to automagically send me a copy > of any message that I had composed. I looked into the config menu but could > not find out how. > > Thanks! > > -- > -------------------------------------- > > We've secretly replaced the Enterprise's Dilithium Crystals > with new Folger's Crystals. Let's see if they notice .... > > You could add your email address to the header Cc: in "Default Headers" in the Config Menu Nevin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 14:45:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03034; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:45:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28389; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:33:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28377; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:33:10 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27958; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:33:02 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 14:32:59 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Woertz+Rampf Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to change bugs-address? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 12 Mar 1996, Woertz+Rampf wrote: > Hi! > > I would like to know if it is possible to change the bugs-adress, > bugs-fullname... > from the default "Pine Developers > into the address of my local system-administrator. > > I tried to do this before by adding it into the pine.conf but it doesn't > work . > This is a known bug in the base Pine 3.91 release. You need either the init.c patch for Pine 3.91 (see the Setup/Updates screen) or the current Pine 3.92 release. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 14:59:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03547; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:59:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28971; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:50:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28965; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:50:39 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28438; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:50:19 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 14:50:17 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Ray Vermey Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: compiling (dutch) Pine in Linux In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It kind of looks like the pine/os-lnx.c didn't get constructed for some reason. Try a "build clean" and watch for errors making the os-lnx.c file... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Mar 1996, Ray Vermey wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I am trying to compile Pine on Linux 1.2.13 ELF and get the following errors > when linking Pine: > > > init.o(.text+0x76cc): undefined reference to `rename_file' > init.o(.text+0x76f9): undefined reference to `build_path' > mailcap.o(.text+0x57): undefined reference to `build_path' > mailcap.o(.text+0x4e8): undefined reference to `read_file' > mailcmd.o(.text+0x64ae): undefined reference to `filter_filename' > mailcmd.o(.text+0x651a): undefined reference to `fnexpand' > mailcmd.o(.text+0x65fb): undefined reference to `build_path' > mailcmd.o(.text+0x662a): undefined reference to `can_access' > mailcmd.o(.text+0x67c8): undefined reference to `error_description' > mailcmd.o(.text+0x6c1c): undefined reference to `error_description' > mailcmd.o(.text+0x6c5f): undefined reference to `error_description' > mailcmd.o(.text+0x79ca): undefined reference to `expand_foldername' > mailcmd.o(.text+0x7fae): undefined reference to `expand_foldername' > mailcmd.o(.text+0xa242): undefined reference to `open_system_pipe' > mailcmd.o(.text+0xa415): undefined reference to `close_system_pipe' > mailcmd.o(.text+0xa42c): undefined reference to > `display_system_pipe_output' > mailindx.o(.text+0xc91): undefined reference to `have_job_control' > mailpart.o(.text+0xe71): undefined reference to `have_job_control' > mailpart.o(.text+0x193c): undefined reference to `filter_filename' > mailpart.o(.text+0x19aa): undefined reference to `fnexpand' > mailpart.o(.text+0x1a8b): undefined reference to `build_path' > mailpart.o(.text+0x1aea): undefined reference to `can_access' > mailpart.o(.text+0x1c2b): undefined reference to `error_description' > mailpart.o(.text+0x1e97): undefined reference to `mime_can_display' > mailpart.o(.text+0x2023): undefined reference to `temp_nam' > > etc etc... > > Does anyone know what this means ???? > > When linking Pico I got this error: > > ar ru libpico.a attach.o ansi.o basic.o bind.o browse.o buffer.o composer.o > display.o file.o fileio.o line.o osdep.o pico.o random.o region.o search.o > spell.o tcap.o window.o word.o > ar: libpico.a is not an archive > make: *** [libpico.a] Error 1 > > There was an old libpico.a in the pico/ dir so I removed it and then Pico com- > piled ok... > It did mention however: > > bfd assertion fail /opt/release/pub/bin/binutils/bfd/elfcode.h:4716 > bfd assertion fail /opt/release/pub/bin/binutils/bfd/elf32-i386.c:624 > > But in generated an executable.. > > Any help here would be very much appreciated! > > Thanx > > Ray > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 15:07:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03994; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:07:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29335; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:01:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29329; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:01:35 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28820; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:01:11 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 15:01:09 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Shel Bercovich Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE Sent-mail listings In-Reply-To: <1996Mar7.093829@iss101.b400.cbe.ab.ca> Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 7 Mar 1996, Shel Bercovich wrote: > Hi all, > Didn't get an answer to this question in an earlier post, so will try it again: > > How does one change the To: identification in PINE's sent-mail folder. Right > now, PINE displays my email address in the listings. I want it to display the > e-mail addresses of the addressees. There is obviously something in the > .pinerec or in the setup but can't seem to identify the correct item to change. > Please help! :-) In the current Pine 3.92 release, you can set alt-addresses in the Setup/Config screen so that Pine can match your address(es). |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 15:08:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04026; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:08:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29255; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:59:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29247; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:59:30 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28758; Tue, 19 Mar 96 14:58:21 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 14:58:19 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Dimakopoulos Panagiotis Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine is a MIME news reader? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 7 Mar 1996, Dimakopoulos Panagiotis wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to read news groups which have 8-bit chars inside > (greek characters). However the news articles arrive in 8-bit encoding > and not in MIME. With a configuration with some tools that I have set > I have managed to send MIME messages to news groups but when I try to > read them with pine then I see the original MIME article unencoded. > > So my question is if pine as a news reader can post and read > MIME UseNet news articles. > Pine, as distributed by UW, does support MIME news reading and posting. However, I noticed that you are running a modified version of Pine, which may have different behavior. Check with the author of whatever patches you are using for details. BTW, the current Pine 3.92 release has a feature that allows you to post 8-bit text, thus avoiding Quoted-Printable encoding in newsgroups that don't like MIME..... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 15:23:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04642; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:23:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29913; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:16:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29905; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:16:08 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29203; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:15:37 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 15:15:35 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Clifford Wesley Fulford , "Aaron M. Scarisbrick" , Peter Whittaker , Paul L Schumann , Bill Jenuwine Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Spell checking with pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Geek: GCS/E d-(+) s+:++> a C++$@ UU++$/B++++/L$/A$/H$/O$/S$ P+>++ L-(+$) E>++ W+>++ N++ K?> !w O?>+ M+@ V PS+ PE-(+) Y+ PGP++ t++ 5++ H+() R+++() tv--- b++ DI+++ D-- G e+++>++++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+>+++ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 8 Mar 1996, Paul L Schumann wrote: > Bill Jenuwine (wjenuwin@ed8200.ped.pto.ford.com) wrote: > : So if by default, Pine uses the simple Unix spell checker, how can I > : change this default AND/OR specify my own alternate dictionary for words > : not found in the main dictionary list. > > Most Unix systems have a program called ispell, which is a good, > interactive spell checker program that allows one to add words to a > custom dictionary. The only "trick" is to get Pine to use ispell. > In the current Pine 3.92 release, you cna go to the Setup/Config screen and set speller=ispell |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 15:27:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04798; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:27:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18143; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:21:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18137; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:21:55 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29439; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:21:53 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 15:21:51 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: dclark@luna.cybercom.net Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: The pine reply function -- help In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 7 Mar 1996 dclark@luna.cybercom.net wrote: > Is there any way of configuring pine so it does not insert ">"'s at the > beginning of every line in a replied-to message? > In the current Pine 3.92 release, go to the Setup/Config screen and set reply-indent-string="" |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 15:30:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04905; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:30:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18233; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:24:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18227; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:24:42 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29555; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:24:34 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 15:24:32 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Aaron Aw Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using Pine with Elm Filter In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 7 Mar 1996, Aaron Aw wrote: > Hi! I've just tried out using Pine with the Elm filter program. So far it > works ok.. I just have a question about having several inboxes.. I've > enabled the "enable-incoming-folders" function and created another folder > called "Pine" to store my incoming mailing list emails. > > The elm filter program that i'm using contains a rule to save any > incoming email with the 'to' header containing 'pine-info' to a folder > called "Pine" > > However when I checked my folders, I found that there's another "Pine" > folder created in the > > Folder-collection ** Default for Saves ** > > section. Hence I have 2 "Pine" folders... one in the incoming and another > in the folder-collection. Can anyone help/advise so that the incoming > email will be processed and sent to the "Pine" folder in the incoming > section. Thanks for your help > >From your description, you actually only have one "Pine" folder. Pine is just showing it to you in two different lists... --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 15:41:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05462; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:41:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18434; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:30:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18428; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:30:41 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29630; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:30:22 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 15:30:20 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: John Margaritsanakis Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Question. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, John Margaritsanakis wrote: > > Is there any way to have Pine run a program/scipt/whatever every > time a new e-mail is to be composed? > In the new Pine 3.92 release, you can set up "sending-filters" in the Setup/Config screen. Pine will then prompt you to pass the composed message through one of the listed filters before sending it out. Getting that to do what you want is left as an exercise ;-) |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 15:43:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05573; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:43:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00632; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:35:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00626; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:35:07 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29721; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:34:57 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 15:34:54 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Michiel Perdeck Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pico Sources In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 5 Mar 1996, Michiel Perdeck wrote: > Where can I find the source code for Pico so that I can recompile them > for my Olivetti Unix platform? > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine3.92.tar.Z |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 15:46:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05825; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:46:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00590; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:34:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00580; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:34:37 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29705; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:34:18 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 15:34:15 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Michiel Perdeck Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to both Post and Mail? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 5 Mar 1996, Michiel Perdeck wrote: > I noticed tha many people seem to both post a folowup message in a > newsgroup and send the same message by mail. How can I do that using Tin, > Pine and Pico? > In Pine 3.92, you are given the option to post, reply by e-mail, or both post and reply. This is different from, and hopefully more clear than, the old Pine 3.91 behavior. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 15:54:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06262; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:54:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19182; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:48:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19176; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:48:11 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00505; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:47:59 -0800 Newsgroups: alt.security.pgp Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 15:47:43 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Yazz Atlas Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Looking for PGP Pine In-Reply-To: <4h7d5b$j05@college.antioch.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 1 Mar 1996, Yazz Atlas wrote: > I'm looking for PGP Pine. Anybody know where to download the newest > version of it? I'm using PGP Elm right now but not enough. Would love > to use a Pine version instead. > The new Pine 3.92 release doesn't include integrated PGP support, but it can be implemented fairly easily using the "display-filters" and "sending-filters" features. I would be suprised if scripts don't start showing up soon... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 15:55:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06320; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:55:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19334; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:52:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19327; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:52:13 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00616; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:51:26 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 15:51:24 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: "Timothy J. Luoma" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: NeXTMail... any chance PINE will learn it? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 29 Feb 1996, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > I was just hoping/wondering if PINE would ever learn how to read > NeXTMail. I don't get much, but when I do it is quite a hassle to unpack > it by hand. > > I know there probably isn't a great need/demand for this, but it would be > nice. All it would really need to be was something which would uudecode, > find the uudecoded file, and untar/uncompress it. > I'm not that familiar with NeXTMail, but if the message has a well-defined string that you could key on, you could write a "display-filter" script to handle the decoding... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 15:58:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06417; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:58:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19367; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:53:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19361; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:53:42 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00656; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:52:58 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 15:52:57 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: "Timothy J. Luoma" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: NeXTMail... any chance PINE will learn it? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 19 Mar 1996, David L Miller wrote: > On Thu, 29 Feb 1996, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > > > > I was just hoping/wondering if PINE would ever learn how to read > > NeXTMail. I don't get much, but when I do it is quite a hassle to unpack > > it by hand. > > > > I know there probably isn't a great need/demand for this, but it would be > > nice. All it would really need to be was something which would uudecode, > > find the uudecoded file, and untar/uncompress it. > > > > I'm not that familiar with NeXTMail, but if the message has a > well-defined string that you could key on, you could write a > "display-filters" script to handle the decoding... > I should have mentioned that "display-filters" are a new feature of Pine 3.92... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 16:02:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06564; Tue, 19 Mar 96 16:02:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19465; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:58:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19459; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:58:09 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00768; Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:58:06 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 15:58:03 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Jack Hunter Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Quoted text Question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 28 Feb 1996, Jack Hunter wrote: > Is there anyway to change the prefixed > in front of quoted text to : > I have used this for quite awhile in YARN and would like to use it in Pine. > Thank you for any help. > In the new Pine 3.92 release, you can set "reply-indent-string" in the Setup/Config screen... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 16:06:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06814; Tue, 19 Mar 96 16:06:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19523; Tue, 19 Mar 96 16:00:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19517; Tue, 19 Mar 96 16:00:22 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00824; Tue, 19 Mar 96 16:00:19 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 16:00:17 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Steve Holstead Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: abort on .pine-interrupted-mail In-Reply-To: <4h062r$1bre@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 28 Feb 1996, Steve Holstead wrote: > I am running PINE 3.91 on AIX4.1.3. I have discovered a problem with pine > and was wondering if you have heard of this problem: > > > The problem arises when I find myself with a .pine-interrupted-mail file > that has a 0 bytecount. As normal the startup process checks to see if > the interrupted file exists. A message is then issued suggesting I > Compose the interrupted message. When I reply y, pine aborts. > > I can make this happen simply by touching .pine-interrupted-mail and > starting pine etc. > This bug is fixed in the current Pine 3.92 release. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 16:19:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07485; Tue, 19 Mar 96 16:19:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01747; Tue, 19 Mar 96 16:09:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01738; Tue, 19 Mar 96 16:08:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzBOF-00038FC; Tue, 19 Mar 96 16:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Has my mail been read????? Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 07:55:46 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4ilkev$sn6@rain.psg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4ilkev$sn6@rain.psg.com> On 18 Mar 1996, Sally Vaughan wrote: : How can I tell if a e-mail message I have sent through pine has been : read by the person I sent it to???? In general, you can't. Sorry. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 16:46:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09202; Tue, 19 Mar 96 16:46:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20853; Tue, 19 Mar 96 16:39:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gore.navisoft.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20847; Tue, 19 Mar 96 16:39:27 -0800 Received: (from robin@localhost) by navisoft.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id QAA01598; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 16:39:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 16:39:26 -0800 (PST) From: Robin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: auto bounce... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I see the "Bounce" command but that looks like it is "per message". How do I do a temporary auto-bounce (of all messages) -- for example to forward all mail going to my office to my home e-mail address while I am working at home. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 17:38:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11971; Tue, 19 Mar 96 17:38:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22383; Tue, 19 Mar 96 17:34:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22377; Tue, 19 Mar 96 17:34:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzCi4-00038FC; Tue, 19 Mar 96 17:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ckk@uchicago.edu (Chris Koenigsberg) Subject: Re: Content-length header val and embedded From lines Message-Id: <4ikpij$6s9@ornette.uchicago.edu> References: Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 22:54:11 GMT I thought about this over the weekend, I felt like maybe I was too rude to the guy from Sun who initially asked how to make Pine/imapd honor Content-Length: headers. Anyway, I thought about how to "do it right" and here's the proposal, for the only possible way to "do it right". The biggest problem with Content-Length as an Internet (rfc822) HEADER is that it really doesn't belong there at all. Mail Transfer Agents have no business computing and updating a content length HEADER, although there IS an ESMTP extension to indicate message length. Existing Mail User Agents freely muck with certain selected headers (X-Status for example) and have no obligation to respect/update a Content Length among the HEADERS. Instead, your stored content length belongs as an attribute only of a message SEPARATOR LINE as stored in a local mailbox file, to be STRIPPED OFF before transmission. (similar to how the initial Unix From line is only used as a separator in the mailbox, and is stripped off before transmission) You are trying to add a new feature to the existing, well established mbox file format, a feature (fixed length which must be computed and stored/updated in Content-Length header) which contradicts a basic mbox assumption (free format of headers/text, can be added/changed arbitrarily subject to rfc 822/1123 restrictions, after initial From line). SO, here's the proposal: you will have to define yet another mailbox file format, call it "clmbox". Write a new driver for imapd/c-client, based on the mbox driver. Change the local mail delivery agent and the mail applications on your system (Solaris, presumably) so they all understand the new format and all respect/preserve its main attribute: Each message in the new clmbox mailbox format would START with a single separator line, perhaps in this format: "Content-Length [n bytes] From [usual From line stuff]". Thus the imapd and c-client would still be able to determine the mailbox format from reading the first line of the file, as they do now. Note that imapd/c-client already HAVE at least one fixed-length format, namely the "mtext/tenex" format, in which a message begins with a line that starts with a MM-DD-YY (or YYYY?) date, followed by octal flag bytes, including the content length. The mtx c-client/imapd driver respects this content length, recomputing it as necessary when rewriting a message to a mailbox file. It makes sense to have this computed number appear in the initial out of band separator line, AT THE BEGINNING of the message it refers to..... rather than a header stuck randomly somewhere in the middle of the Internet rfc822 header set.... So what would you gain from introducing a new clmbox mailbox format, instead of just using mtext/tenex? Good question. Maybe Solaris should adopt the mtext/tenex format as its native mailbox format, if you really really need to have a computed content length for a Solaris mail user agent? On the other hand, remember that mtext/tenex mailbox handling involves actions which are not reliable when the mailbox is accessed via NFS... Chris Koenigsberg ckk@uchicago.edu, ckk@pobox.com http://www2.uchicago.edu/ns-acs/ckk/index.html (also http://www.pobox.com/~ckk) U. of Chicago Academic Computing Services postmaster From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 17:40:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12066; Tue, 19 Mar 96 17:40:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04246; Tue, 19 Mar 96 17:34:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04240; Tue, 19 Mar 96 17:34:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzCjg-00038TC; Tue, 19 Mar 96 17:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dgd@nebula.is.rpslmc.edu (Daniel G. Drumm) Subject: Re: Z in pine Date: 20 Mar 1996 00:12:45 GMT Message-Id: <4iniht$hje@nebula.is.rpslmc.edu> References: David Slater (dslater@ocln.org) wrote: : I have two questions regarding unix pine, the first is: How do I disable : the suspend (^z) command in unix pine. My users get hung, and besides : they have no need for suspending processes. jobs fg : The other question is: I have a file that I want to to use as an email : template. I thought I would just tell my users to us the ^r to pull up : the template. The problem is that with permissions such as they are on my : machine, I would have to create a copy for each user's home dir. Does : anyone have a good solution? put it in /tmp : Thanks in advance. : David Slater, Network Administrator dslater@ocln.org : Old Colony Library Network phone 617-828-9764 : Canton MA 02021 fax 617-828-6458 -- -- Daniel G. Drumm - ddrumm@is.rpslmc.edu System Administrator - Network Analyst Information Services - 1700 W. Van Buren Suite 374 Rush Presbyterian - St. Luke's Medical Center Chicago, IL 60612 - (312) 942-5000 Ext. 2-1551 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 20:18:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15607; Tue, 19 Mar 96 20:18:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24792; Tue, 19 Mar 96 20:14:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24786; Tue, 19 Mar 96 20:14:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzFGN-00038TC; Tue, 19 Mar 96 20:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ken21@cus.cam.ac.uk (Keir Novik) Subject: Saving messages to addressbook Fcc folder Date: 17 Mar 1996 15:24:10 GMT Message-Id: <4ihaqq$c0q@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Pine allows you to edit an addressbook's Fcc field, which specifies the folder to which a message will be automatically saved. However, this occurs only when you send a message to that person. Is there any way to set this up to save a message received from that person? I know the saved-msg-name-rule can be set to save the message automatically by the name of the sender, but that creates too many folders for my preference. -- Keir E. Novik Theory of Condensed Matter, Physics Department, Cambridge University, UK From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 20:24:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15761; Tue, 19 Mar 96 20:24:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06806; Tue, 19 Mar 96 20:19:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06800; Tue, 19 Mar 96 20:19:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzFJR-00038FC; Tue, 19 Mar 96 20:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joe Morlan Subject: Newsgroup subject line length Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 15:45:59 -0800 Message-Id: <4ikskb$k66@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anybody know if there is a way to make PINE display the entire subject line of newsgroup headers in a listing of articles? Many of the binary groups seem to have very long subject lines and the only way I can read them is to display the whole the message. This can be very time consuming if the "text" is very long. I was hoping there was a setting that would allow the full 80 columns of the subject field to be viewed without calling up the whole message. Also does anybody know the correct syntax to pipe a binary article to sz for download directly to my terminal without having to export and exit PINE first? Thanks in advance for any help. ---------- Joe Morlan San Francisco, CA jmorlan@slip.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 22:13:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17635; Tue, 19 Mar 96 22:13:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26285; Tue, 19 Mar 96 22:07:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26279; Tue, 19 Mar 96 22:07:08 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08918; Tue, 19 Mar 96 22:07:05 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 22:07:03 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Keir Novik Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Saving messages to addressbook Fcc folder In-Reply-To: <4ihaqq$c0q@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 17 Mar 1996, Keir Novik wrote: > Pine allows you to edit an addressbook's Fcc field, which specifies > the folder to which a message will be automatically saved. However, > this occurs only when you send a message to that person. Is there any > way to set this up to save a message received from that person? > > I know the saved-msg-name-rule can be set to save the message > automatically by the name of the sender, but that creates too many > folders for my preference. > Pine 3.92 has several variations of saved-msg-name-rule that use the Fcc... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 19 22:14:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17666; Tue, 19 Mar 96 22:14:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08238; Tue, 19 Mar 96 22:10:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08232; Tue, 19 Mar 96 22:10:50 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08974; Tue, 19 Mar 96 22:10:48 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 22:10:46 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Joe Morlan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Newsgroup subject line length In-Reply-To: <4ikskb$k66@slip.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 18 Mar 1996, Joe Morlan wrote: > Does anybody know if there is a way to make PINE display the entire > subject line of newsgroup headers in a listing of articles? Many of the > binary groups seem to have very long subject lines and the only way I can > read them is to display the whole the message. This can be very time > consuming if the "text" is very long. I was hoping there was a setting > that would allow the full 80 columns of the subject field to be viewed > without calling up the whole message. > If you have access to Pine 3.92, you might experiment with the index-format in the Setup/Config screen to see if you can come up with something better for you. > Also does anybody know the correct syntax to pipe a binary article to sz > for download directly to my terminal without having to export and exit > PINE first? > In Pine 3.92, set "download-command=sz" in the Setup/Config screen. Neither of these features are available in Pine 3.91 or earlier. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 03:37:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25560; Wed, 20 Mar 96 03:37:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00618; Wed, 20 Mar 96 03:30:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00612; Wed, 20 Mar 96 03:30:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzM4B-00038xC; Wed, 20 Mar 96 03:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: evelyn@cc.wwu.edu (Evelyn Albrecht) Subject: New-month prune response Date: 19 Mar 1996 15:21:36 -0800 Message-Id: <4infi0$hoo@henson.cc.wwu.edu> What should happen when you answer "no" to the question "Move sent-mail to 'sent-mail-prev-month'?" Our local documentation says that the messages in sent-mail will be purged, but that's not my experience. I've searched all the documentation I can find for the answer to this, with no luck. -- |Evelyn Albrecht Ph: (360) 650-3239 | |Academic Computing Services Internet: evelyn@henson.cc.wwu.edu | |Western Washington Univ. | |Bellingham, WA 98225-9094 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 03:51:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25856; Wed, 20 Mar 96 03:51:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00841; Wed, 20 Mar 96 03:46:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from colossus.barclays.co.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00833; Wed, 20 Mar 96 03:46:28 -0800 Received: from bognor.barclays.co.uk by colossus.barclays.co.uk with local SMTP (PP) id <12374-0@colossus.barclays.co.uk>; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 11:46:12 +0000 Received: from clacton.barclays.co.uk by bognor.barclays.co.uk with BarclayNet SMTP (PP) id <06528-0@bognor.barclays.co.uk>; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 11:46:09 +0000 Received: by clacton.barclays.co.uk (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/USST-2.0) id AA50403; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 11:42:01 GMT Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 11:41:59 +0000 (GMT) From: martini To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Sending mail from machine X as if I were logged into machine Y Message-Id: Organisation: Barclays Technology Services Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I have a problem... Our sys admin prevents the sending of mail to the 'outside world', unless logged into machine Y. I do most of my work from a workstation - machine X. Is it possible for pine to rewrite the sending header to make my mail look as if it has been sent from machine Y. I think you can do this with the sendmail configuration file, but can it be done from pine. If not - I will settle for some help on changing my sendmail.cf. martini. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ian Martin ---> E-mail : Ian.Martin@barclays.co.uk Barclays Bank PLC, AIO : MARTIN,IL1 Unix Systems Support Team, Phone : +44 (0)1565 614736 Radbroke Hall, Fax : +44 (0)1565 654473 Knutsford, Cheshire. WA16 9EU ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 04:02:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26064; Wed, 20 Mar 96 04:02:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12759; Wed, 20 Mar 96 03:51:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12753; Wed, 20 Mar 96 03:51:03 -0800 Received: from taski by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA10053 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Wed, 20 Mar 1996 11:41:58 +0100 Received: from localhost (bruin@localhost) by pori (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA30977; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 11:31:30 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: pori: bruin owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 11:31:29 +0100 (MET) From: Kees de Bruin X-Sender: bruin@pori Reply-To: Kees de Bruin To: Pine Info mailing list Subject: Compilation of Pine 3.92 for Linux/ELF Message-Id: X-Mail-Reader: Pine version 3.92 on Linux/ELF X-Attribution: KdB Organization: Tasking Software B.V. The Netherlands Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1329513575-1996286610-827317889=:30889" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---1329513575-1996286610-827317889=:30889 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, to compile the source code for Linux running kernel 1.3.59 I had to make some changes to the sources (see attached file). These had to do with changing some of the compiler and linker flags, and the definition of the variable errno in many of the source files. This variable should not be defined by any program, just include for the definition. Kind regards, Kees de Bruin _ | | __ .-. .-. 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Margaritsanakis X-Sender: imarga@cscf15 To: David L Miller Cc: John Margaritsanakis , pine-info%cac.washington.edu@seralph6.essex.ac.uk Subject: Re: Question. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 19 Mar 1996, David L Miller wrote: > On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, John Margaritsanakis wrote: > > > > > Is there any way to have Pine run a program/scipt/whatever every > > time a new e-mail is to be composed? > > > > In the new Pine 3.92 release, you can set up "sending-filters" in the > Setup/Config screen. Pine will then prompt you to pass the composed > message through one of the listed filters before sending it out. > Getting that to do what you want is left as an exercise ;-) > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > Hehe, seems only thing I have to do now is wait for the university admins to install the new version of Pine... :) /-------------------------------------\ /-------------------------------------\ |PGP: 490A7B8678843A8B01388E4DF0E6B652 | "And when we meet again my hand | |PGP Key on WWW and Key Servers. | shall hold a Silmaril from the Iron | | John Margaritsanakis | Crown; for you have not looked the | | Department of Computer Science | last upon Beren son of Barahir." | | Essex University, UK. | The Silmarillion | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Check out http://cswww2.essex.ac.uk/users/imarga/ | \-------------------------------------/ \-------------------------------------/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 04:59:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28227; Wed, 20 Mar 96 04:59:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13636; Wed, 20 Mar 96 04:40:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13630; Wed, 20 Mar 96 04:40:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzNBJ-000392C; Wed, 20 Mar 96 04:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nevin Kapur Subject: Re: changing actual order of a folder In-Reply-To: <314D2C71.7DCF@ling.ucsd.edu> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <314D2C71.7DCF@ling.ucsd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 04:02:29 GMT On Mon, 18 Mar 1996, Jennifer DeSimone wrote: > Hi. Does anyone know of a way to permanently change the order of > the messages in a a folder? Because I changed the way my messages > are sorted and saved, everytime I open my folders, Pine has to take > a few moments to sort. Is there a way to sort my messages and then > SAVE them in that order so it doesn't have to sort every time I open > the folder? > > Thanks. > > There is a sort-key option in the configure menu. Choose the option that you want. Nevin. -- Nevin Kapur * Electrical Engineering * Indian Institute of Technology-Bombay http://ee.iitb.ernet.in/~nevin, nevin@ee.iitb.ernet.in From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 06:28:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00367; Wed, 20 Mar 96 06:28:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03114; Wed, 20 Mar 96 06:20:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03108; Wed, 20 Mar 96 06:20:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzOjX-000398C; Wed, 20 Mar 96 06:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: flavell@v2.ph.gla.ac.uk (Alan J. Flavell) Subject: Re: VAX/VMS installation help needed Message-Id: References: <960306121346.b8@splab.cas.neu.edu> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 23:48:47 GMT In article <960306121346.b8@splab.cas.neu.edu>, JOEHECK@splab.cas.neu.edu writes: >I have a Microvax II running VAX/VMS 5.4-2 and Multinet 3.2(i think that's >the version). I cannot find any vms files on the washington machine, unless >they are in the .Z file. If so, then how do I unpack that file? Or am I >missing something along the way? Washington does not support the VAX/VMS platform. There are (AFAIK) a couple of commercial ports to VAX/VMS; there is (I know - I run it) also a free port, by Yehavi Bourvine at HUJI in Israel. To read my notes about the latter, try here. http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7Eflavell/ you'll find an appropriate pointer to the software too. best regards -- Alan "The squash ladder is now up and running" - departmental notice From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 07:09:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01446; Wed, 20 Mar 96 07:09:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15614; Wed, 20 Mar 96 07:00:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15608; Wed, 20 Mar 96 07:00:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzPM8-00038FC; Wed, 20 Mar 96 06:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nxa585@bham.ac.uk (N Ambrose) Subject: POP and Pine again!!! Date: 20 Mar 1996 13:21:15 GMT Message-Id: <4ip0ob$69n@sun4.bham.ac.uk> Hi, I posted a while back asking about how to set up Pine to get mail from a POP server, and nobody replied ;( so i thought that i'd pester you all until some nice caring person helped me out of my misery!!!!! I have read how to set it up a long while ago and now cannot remember where... any help most gratefully accepted! thanks in advance neil ;-) -- N.Ambrose@bham.ac.uk Department of Biomedical Science and Ethics The Medical School The University of Brimingham Edgbaston Birimingham B15 2TT 0121 414 5390 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 07:26:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01925; Wed, 20 Mar 96 07:26:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03888; Wed, 20 Mar 96 07:13:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from slam.aar-vki.dk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03876; Wed, 20 Mar 96 07:13:15 -0800 Received: from ekspc1.aar-vki.dk by slam.aar-vki.dk id aa05926; 20 Mar 96 16:13 MET Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 16:13:12 -0800 (PST) From: Eigil Krogh Sorensen To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: URGENT: (Can't login to ftp server) Re: Pine and PC-Pine 3.92 now available (fwd) X-Sender: eks@slam.aar-vki.dk Message-Id: Organization: Water Quality Institute Science Park Aarhus. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When I try to fetch the new pine 3.92 I can't login to the ftp server. Here is what happens: (username) ftp 331 Guest login ok, send ident as password. Password: 530 User ftp: can't change directory to /ftp/world. Login failed. ftp> Can that be fixed ? -- Eigil Krogh Sorensen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- VKI ! ! Water Quality Institute !Phone: !E-mail: Science Park Aarhus ! +45 86 20 20 00 or ! 10, Gustav Wieds Vej ! +45 86 20 20 11 local 2114 ! eks@aar-vki.dk DK-8000 Aarhus C !Fax: ! DENMARK. ! +45 86 19 75 11 ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 07:41:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02323; Wed, 20 Mar 96 07:41:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16156; Wed, 20 Mar 96 07:32:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from main.sorosis.ro by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16144; Wed, 20 Mar 96 07:32:26 -0800 Received: from linux.infoiasi.ro (lucarom@linux.infoiasi.ro [193.226.30.145]) by main.sorosis.ro (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id RAA14432 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 17:27:11 +0200 Received: (from lucarom@localhost) by linux.infoiasi.ro (8.6.12.1/ModCCC-8.6.12) id QAA01676; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 16:31:47 GMT Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 16:31:46 +0000 (GMT) From: LUCA Romeo To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i realy need help From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 08:03:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02983; Wed, 20 Mar 96 08:03:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04596; Wed, 20 Mar 96 07:51:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Farstar.secapl.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04578; Wed, 20 Mar 96 07:50:45 -0800 Received: from Cookie.secapl.com (Cookie.secapl.com [192.108.247.19]) by Farstar (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA111988 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 09:49:08 -0600 Received: by Cookie.secapl.com id AA291712 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 20 Mar 1996 09:52:27 -0600 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 09:52:27 -0600 (CST) From: Carla Golden To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: [400 No space left on device writing history file -- throttling In-Reply-To: <4dllr0$klq@guava.epix.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am not sure if I sent this out allready, but how do I fix this? [ ** Empty List ** Select Here to Try Re-Expanding ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [400 No space left on device writing history file -- throttling] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 08:27:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04194; Wed, 20 Mar 96 08:27:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05236; Wed, 20 Mar 96 08:20:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05230; Wed, 20 Mar 96 08:20:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzQYC-00038FC; Wed, 20 Mar 96 08:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: timr@crl.com (Tim Rice) Subject: Re: how do i get pine? Date: 19 Mar 1996 10:01:20 -0800 Message-Id: <4imspg$lsv@crl9.crl.com> References: <4i57b6$4a@pegasus.rutgers.edu> ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine James Bond (spartan@pegasus.rutgers.edu) wrote: : uh.. am I posting this right? I've never posted something before! : I want to know where I can get pine software? Thanks!! -- ----- Tim Rice Multitalents 707 887-1469 tim@trr.metro.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 09:10:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06486; Wed, 20 Mar 96 09:10:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06337; Wed, 20 Mar 96 09:02:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from slam.aar-vki.dk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06324; Wed, 20 Mar 96 09:02:13 -0800 Received: from ekspc1.aar-vki.dk by slam.aar-vki.dk id aa06157; 20 Mar 96 18:02 MET Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 18:02:08 -0800 (PST) From: Eigil Krogh Sorensen To: Tim Rice Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: how do i get pine? X-Sender: eks@slam.aar-vki.dk In-Reply-To: <4imspg$lsv@crl9.crl.com> Message-Id: Organization: Water Quality Institute Science Park Aarhus. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Problem is that when I try to fetch the new pine 3.92 I can't login to the ftp server ftp.cac.washington.edu. Here is what happens: (username) ftp 331 Guest login ok, send ident as password. Password: 530 User ftp: can't change directory to /ftp/world. Login failed. ftp> On 19 Mar 1996, Tim Rice wrote: > ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine > > James Bond (spartan@pegasus.rutgers.edu) wrote: > : uh.. am I posting this right? I've never posted something before! > : I want to know where I can get pine software? Thanks!! > > > -- > ----- > Tim Rice Multitalents 707 887-1469 > tim@trr.metro.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 09:15:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06668; Wed, 20 Mar 96 09:15:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18522; Wed, 20 Mar 96 09:05:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18514; Wed, 20 Mar 96 09:05:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzRFu-00038FC; Wed, 20 Mar 96 09:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu (Ashok Aiyar) Subject: Re: Compilation of Pine 3.92 for Linux/ELF Date: 20 Mar 1996 15:10:30 GMT Message-Id: References: On 20 Mar 1996 03:57:03 -0800, Kees de Bruin wrote: >to compile the source code for Linux running kernel 1.3.59 I had to make >some changes to the sources (see attached file). These had to do with >changing some of the compiler and linker flags, and the definition of the >variable errno in many of the source files. This variable should not be >defined by any program, just include for the definition. This patch fixes the linker errors, but does not resolve the problem I have with sending mail via Pine. Unless I have an smtp server defined in either ~/.pinerc or in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf, Pine 3.92 gives an error and will not send mail on two Linux boxes that I have tried it on. On these same systems Pine 3.91 works perfectly, without an smtp server defined in the Pine configuration files (i.e it is able to use /usr/lib/sendmail) ...... Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. Department of Oncology aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison tel: (608) 262-6697 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 09:35:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07564; Wed, 20 Mar 96 09:35:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19022; Wed, 20 Mar 96 09:23:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Farstar.secapl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19012; Wed, 20 Mar 96 09:23:22 -0800 Received: from fozzie.secapl.com (Fozzie.secapl.com [192.131.46.3]) by Farstar (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA133384 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 11:21:52 -0600 Received: by fozzie.secapl.com id AA65767 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 20 Mar 1996 12:24:00 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 12:24:00 -0500 (EST) From: Tony Iannotti To: Carla Golden Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [400 No space left on device writing history file -- throttling In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The NNTP server is at fault, contact your Systems people. On Wed, 20 Mar 1996, Carla Golden wrote: > I am not sure if I sent this out allready, but how do I fix this? > > > [ ** Empty List ** Select Here to Try Re-Expanding ] > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > [400 No space left on device writing history file -- throttling] > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 09:40:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07758; Wed, 20 Mar 96 09:40:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07216; Wed, 20 Mar 96 09:31:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07210; Wed, 20 Mar 96 09:31:20 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA17213 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 18:30:35 +0100 Received: from localhost (bor@localhost) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA09385 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:30:31 +0300 (MOW) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:30:29 +0300 (MOW) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsmx1 Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Pine mailing list Subject: sendmail-path and 8bit in Pine 3.92 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, folks! Just got Pine 3.92 - looks very promising!! Much thanks for good work done! But two questions: 1. I cannot find sendmail-path parameter in Config screen. Is it intentional? Should I always edit .pinerc to get it? 2. It is now possible to send 8bit plain text over SMTP channel. What about local sendmail? Can I specify 8BITMIME body type and tell Pine to just pass 8 bit over? To put it other way - how do I send 8 bit text with local MTA? Thanks in advance greetings Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 09:52:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08172; Wed, 20 Mar 96 09:52:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07524; Wed, 20 Mar 96 09:46:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from comoro.yorku.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07518; Wed, 20 Mar 96 09:46:41 -0800 Received: from aquarius.ccs.yorku.ca (aquarius.ccs.yorku.ca [130.63.237.165]) by comoro.yorku.ca (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id MAA27201 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 12:46:40 -0500 Received: (from avalon@localhost) by aquarius.ccs.yorku.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA21939 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 12:46:39 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 12:46:39 -0500 From: "Avalon Johnson Unix Team" Message-Id: <9603201246.ZM21937@aquarius.ccs.yorku.ca> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 15sep94) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine aborting when one tries to include a file in the compose screen Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii We have the following somewhat strange setup on our machines A novell netware server which is running as an NFS server (don't ask) exporting home directories for about 3000 users. 4 Sparc Ultras running Solaris 5.5 that NFS mounts these home directories, as well as other home directories from dedicated NFS servers. (We had 5 RS6000 running AIX3.2.5 which with the same setup exhibited the same behavior). Users run zmail from NCD as well as pine 3.9.1 on these servers with the following problems occuring for the users whose home directories are mounted from the Novell server, who have a large number of files in the current directory (> 50), and who run pine: User goes to the compose screen starts to compose a message and then decides to include a file, they do ^r^t and immediately pine crashes with the following error: Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". the .pine-crash files has the following: Pine Panic: Received abort signal The same home directory with the same files mounted from the dedicated NFS servers do not exhibit this problem. I was told that on the vax pine used to behave like this also. Please note that pine 3.9.2 also does the same thing but zmail does not. Does anyone know a possible cause for this ? -- Avalon Johnson Usenet: avalon@yorku.ca Computing & Communications Services York University. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind." - Joseph Conrad. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 10:38:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10743; Wed, 20 Mar 96 10:38:59 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08747; Wed, 20 Mar 96 10:31:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08741; Wed, 20 Mar 96 10:31:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzSbt-00038FC; Wed, 20 Mar 96 10:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: macvsog@mercury.gaianet.net (Leroy Brown) Subject: Printing with Pine Date: 20 Mar 1996 17:14:37 GMT Message-Id: <4ipedt$rth@tribune.cris.com> I'm using pine 3.91 through a unix shell account and I want to know if it is possible to print to the screen instead of a printer? If so, how do I configure the printer setup? Thank You From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 11:39:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14112; Wed, 20 Mar 96 11:39:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22405; Wed, 20 Mar 96 11:21:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22399; Wed, 20 Mar 96 11:21:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzTOk-00038TC; Wed, 20 Mar 96 11:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= Subject: Comments about the 3.92 release... Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 20:57:39 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII [continued from my response to the general announcement:] Features of this new release of Pine which may be of special interest to users in CZ/SK, as well as to users anywhere, include... * Support for 8BITMIME ESMTP dialog, when configured to do this and when talking to a SMTP server which supports this, such as BSD Sendmail 8.7.*. This means that instead of always sending text with non-ASCII characters as QUOTED-PRINTABLE (or quoted-unreadable :-), you have the possibility to send your message with 8-bit characters when the recipient announces support for 8BITMIME. * Support for RFC1522 headers, which will allow your name to look as ugly as my name does here, and permit you to use your native character set in e-mail and news headers. * Support for 8-bit NNTP transfer for news articles. Earlier this month, the central Czech news server appears to have been retired and replaced by one running more up-to-date code, and for the first time, it's possible to read news originating outside of CZ and SK with 8-bit data intact, although with still a several day delay. This will mean that you can also send newsposts this way -- while a little bit controversial, it is a widely- accepted practice. * A way to enter 8-bit characters, even if the keyboard drivers do not allow one to do so directly, by ESC-ESC-decimalcode for the desired char. * One can now configure the DELETE key on many keyboards to perform a forward-character-deletion, as one may know it from the PC keyboard. * Support for external programs to be called when displaying or sending a message. One possible use of this is to provide a translation from and to the Windows code page 1250 which is widely used in CZ/SK, to make those characters which differ from the recommended ISO-8859-2 Internet on-the- wire character set match with Micro$oft's idea of that character set, in a manner similar to the ISO_TO_CP and CP_TO_ISO tables which PC-Pine can use to translate ISO-8859-2 to and from CP852 or Kamenicky or whatever. I have not verified this for the final release, but the source code for the preliminary releases looked like it did not make use of these tables when one was using Pine on a Windows machine. * Support for a mime-types file to permit labelling of MIME attachments in mail sent, beyond those types supported in previous releases of Pine. * Support for the mouse under the X-Windows system when configured for this, as well as support for new mail notification in an X icon. Mouse support can also be enabled for the standalone Pico editor as ``pico -m''. The appearance of Pine will still be the same character-based program, but one will now be able to click on the names of commands to execute them, or select messages this way, plus select and paste text. Note that you need to use the shift key along with the mouse buttons for selecting and pasting text. * Too many more to list here. These are some of the more significant features of this new release, and present Pine users will also see improvements in the way it operates. You are advised to look to the release notes for a broader overview of all that is new, improved, or fixed from the previous releases. Here are some notes of general interest I have from working with the pre-releases that have led up to this final product which is tantalizingly close to you: There are a number of new options, such as the mouse support. You should probably run this new Pine, read the mildly overwhelming Release notes which are available from the Main menu, as well as being found in the docs/ directory of the FTP server and mirrors, and then go directly to the configuration screen. There you can select the options you wish to be available to you -- at any point, you should use ^G to Get help about a particular option. When you've selected all the options which are appealing to you, you should exit and save the configuration options, then I suggest you quit and restart Pine. If you don't, there seem to be some options which do not completely take effect. Starting fresh seems to correct this. If you want to take advantage of the X support, you will need to run Pine in an xterm, and one way to do this is to create an alias for pine, which starts an xterm running Pine, with the font to match your charset. As noted, the external program hooks could be used to provide a quick translation from the over-the-wire character set to that which is in use locally for the display, and to convert back to the over-the-wire character set. This has obvious applications for the Windoze code page used in central and eastern Europe, which has slight differences from the desired ISO-8859-2 charset. The disadvantage is that this conversion is only in effect for the message body and does not include the headers. At least Pine will get the charset tagging in the headers correct, unlike certain commercial products, if you have your charset value specified properly. I would have preferred a more general expansion of the DOS Pine ISO_TO_CP principle to also handle Windows (if not also Unix where some Windows-based telnet application is in use), but since Nyetscape blew off the CE Windows users also, I'm happy there are these hooks, even though many users will likely want to make use of the hooks for messages with particular strings, like -----BEGIN ... One might be able to use these external program hooks to echo the xterm escape sequence which can be used to dynamically change the font used in the display to match messages received in different character sets. I have not experimented with this yet. It appears from my work with the final pre-release that at least for some platforms, there may be difficulties in displaying certain characters in some character sets, which have printable characters in positions where the ISO 8859 series of character sets do not. Users who stick to, say, ISO-8859-2, will not have problems. However, users who want to support the Windows CE code page may have difficulties, as may users who would work with MIME character sets such as KOI8-R. If this turns out to be a problem, I have confidence that the Pine authors will be able to make a fix available for this in reasonably short notice. Not that I want to speak for them, but people who have worked with them in getting this new release out to you know they are very responsive to this sort of problem. To take proper advantage of the ESMTP 8BITMIME support, you must set up Pine as an SMTP client -- that is, to set the value of the SMTP server to be some machine, probably your mailhub or mailhost. If this machine is running a mailer such as Sendmail 8.7.5 which announces 8BITMIME support, then your message can be transferred as an 8-bit message. If you are running an old version of Sendmail, such as 8.6.13 or some IDA variant or even 4.1 (ack), you will probably want to obtain and install the latest sendmail, which should not be terribly difficult, or any of several other mailers which also have 8BITMIME support. Of course, this is a job for the administrator of your system if you are only the end user. The .mime.types file which Pine expects to see must be in the format content-typeextension[extensions...] like application/x-foo foo bar baz which matches the Mosaic mime-types file. However, it seems that Netscape makes use of a .mime.types file, should you happen to copy it to your own directory for use, with a format type=(content-type)[encoding]exts=(extensions- comma-separated)[icon=some-bitmap] Pine cannot yet parse this, though it should be a simple matter to write code to handle this or any other extant mime-types file and contribute it to who would be happy to incorporate it into the next release. As an alternative, if you have such a .mime-types file, you can use your favorite editor to gut the ``type='' and ``exts='' and convert any commas to whitespace. Pine should be happy with the file that results, even if Netscape may barf. The next Pine release should rationalize this somewhat -- there wasn't time to cram it into this release. The ESC-ESC-decimal means of entering an 8-bit character, when there is no easy way to enter it directly from the keyboard, works well when you know what the decimal number representation of the character you desire happens to be. This will probably require a table of the commonly used characters from your language and their decimal equivalents in the character set you happen to use. For example, I know that the u-diaeresis (or German u with umlaut) has decimal position 252 in both the common Latin-1 (ISO-8859-1) encoding, as well as in the ISO-8859-2 which is more likely to be used in this country. So if I'm sending messages to my banker friends in Switzerland and want to impress them by putting a couple dots atop their city's name, I would use the sequence of keystrokes... Z-ESC-ESC-2-5-2-r-i-c-h ... if I don't have a keyboard with the character I want immediately available. Of course, you may need to find a reference which lists all the characters which are available in your selected character set, so that you know the decimal codes for the position of each. Never fear, there are such things available on the Net for you. One of the worst, based on something I found several years ago and to which I added additional character sets, can be retrieved as ftp://ftp.radio.cz/charsets/iso8859 This is a rather lengthy text file, and the original was written in German, and I added to it and never got around to cleaning it up or even adding more to it to reflect additional ISO8859 character sets. However, in this, you will find a table of all the characters in a particular subset of 8859, plus the hexadecimal and decimal codes for the position of each described character in the table. From this, you should be able to create a list of any character which you need to type and its corresponding decimal number. Do not trust this table for too much else -- while most of it is reliable, it is work which used to be in progress but was put on the back burner and the heat turned way down. My congratulations and thanks to all on the Pine Team for providing still another release of Pine, which is easy enough for almost anyone to use, yet powerful enough for advanced users, and includes built-in support for MIME and 8-bit handling, making it useful for not only the intended Univ of Washington community, but for users throughout the world. Sigh... Fun's over. Now back to Real Work... Barry Bouwsma, Radio Prahahaha Beer and Chocolate Tester for public PGP key http://www.radio.cz/~beery From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 11:49:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14521; Wed, 20 Mar 96 11:49:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10726; Wed, 20 Mar 96 11:41:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10720; Wed, 20 Mar 96 11:41:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzThB-00038FC; Wed, 20 Mar 96 11:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: James Shattuck Subject: Q: How to make messages read-only? Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 09:43:40 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I download mail from home on Netscape 2.0 as well as read it from school, and there is already a file in my inbox that the IMAP server uses that is read-only. How can I make other messages that I receive read-only? Thanks ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ James Alan Shattuck Computer Science Major Disabled Student Services - High Tech Center CSU, Chico 898-5959 DSS Home Page: http://www.csuchico.edu/dss/ Born: 9/3/63 Adopted: 7/71 as Anthony Douglas, San Francisco, Ca Searching for Birth Family Adoption Home Page: http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~progman/adoption ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 12:16:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15437; Wed, 20 Mar 96 12:16:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23493; Wed, 20 Mar 96 12:01:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23487; Wed, 20 Mar 96 12:01:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzU24-00038FC; Wed, 20 Mar 96 11:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dave@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dave Rasmussen) Subject: ucbmail bug under osf? Date: 20 Mar 1996 18:32:14 GMT Message-Id: <4ipive$gs9@uwm.edu> There seems to be a bug in ucbmail under Digital UNIX V3.2C Worksystem Software (Rev. 148) that messes up cc lines generated from a previous pine generated message that has <>'s in the name portion next to someone's address. Does DEC have a replacement for this or? A sample of the symptoms are shown below: >From helpdesk@csd.uwm.edu Wed Mar 20 11:01:07 1996 >From: Helpdesk Consultant >Message-Id: <199603201700.LAA02085@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> >To: helpdesk@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu, js@csd.uwm.edu >Subject: Re: help >Cc: , Schmoe@csd.uwm.edu > >Is your terminal plugged in? > > >>Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 10:46:56 -0600 (CST) >>From: Joe Schmoe >> >> >>When I turn on my terminal nothing happens. What is wrong? -- Dave Rasmussen - Information & Media Technologies (ex-CSD) Client Services Internet: dave@csd.uwm.edu Phone: 414-229-5133 2m HAM Radio: N9REJ USmail: Box 413 Bol213, Milwaukee, WI 53201 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 12:18:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15558; Wed, 20 Mar 96 12:18:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11003; Wed, 20 Mar 96 11:52:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10903; Wed, 20 Mar 96 11:47:58 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA23480 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:47:30 +0100 Received: from localhost (bor@localhost) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA09940; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 22:47:06 +0300 (MOW) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 22:47:04 +0300 (MOW) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsmx1 Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Pine Developers Cc: Pine mailing list Subject: Bug (ID DJ577): Fcc is computed incorrectly if using mail-box format of address Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-33463914-827350823=:9565" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-33463914-827350823=:9565 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: The problem: Pine 3.92 seems to have a (minor?) bug in computing Fcc for a given address. If I use a mail-box format of To: address (just the address without angle brackets, e.g. pine-info@cac.washington.edu) Fcc is ALWAYS set to sent-mail, though fcc-name-rule is set to "by-recipient". If I use route-address (e.g. ), the Fcc is correctly set to pine-info. To reproduce: start Pine; set fcc-name-rule to "by-recipient"; go to Compose; give any address in the To: field, press RETURN; you won't get Fcc header. If you look into it with ^R you will see just sent-mail. now cancel composer and start once again; give the same address in angle brackets - you correctly get Fcc set to user name. I checked it with Pine 3.91 - it works correctly there. The same problem with address book entries. If address is given without angle brackets, Fcc: is always set to sent-mail. the configuration I use is almost the same as with Pine 3.91 - a couple of features changed against default values. Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---559023410-33463914-827350823=:9565 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data Pine built Wed Mar 20 19:32:42 MOW 1996 on host: itsmx1 ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = bor, full = home = /home/bor home_dir= /home/bor hostname= itsmx1 localdom= itsmx1 userdom= itsmx1.mow.sni.de maildom= itsmx1.mow.sni.de cur_cntxt= [] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= /var/mail/bor msgmap: tot=1, cur=1, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=OrderedSubj inbox is mail_stream term type=97801, ttyname=/dev/pts/0, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Andrej Borsenkow user-id : bor user-domain : itsmx1.mow.sni.de nntp-server : news.sni.de inbox-path : INBOX incoming-folders : "SendMail" .Mail/NEWS/comp.mail.sendmail : "SAMBA" .Mail/samba : "meshhelp" .Mail/meshhelp : "Pine" .Mail/pine-info : "Perl/announce" .Mail/NEWS/comp.lang.perl.announce : "Win95NetBugs" .Mail/win95netbugs folder-collections : .Mail/[] news-collections : *{news.sni.de/nntp}[] default-fcc : sent-mail default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .elm/rsignature address-book : .sni : .addressbook feature-list : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-incoming-folders : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : signature-at-bottom : enable-flag-cmd : enable-aggregate-command-set : delete-skips-deleted : news-post-without-validation : save-will-advance : news-approximates-new-status : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation : enable-8bit-nntp-posting : reply-always-uses-reply-to : tab-visits-next-new-message-only initial-keystroke-li : i customized-hdrs : Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de saved-msg-name-rule : by-from fcc-name-rule : by-recipient sort-key : OrderedSubj addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last character-set : iso-8859-1 composer-wrap-column : 74 reply-indent-string : > use-only-domain-name : no printer : rsh itsmx2 lpr -ws=G203 -pb2 -mar=10 personal-print-comma : rsh itsmx2 lpr -ws=G203 -pb2 -mar=10 standard-printer : lp last-time-prune-ques : 96.3 last-version-used : 3.92 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu suggest-fullname : Pine Developers suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu local-fullname : Local Support local-address : postmaster kblock-passwd-count : 1 viewer-overlap : 2 status-message-delay : 0 mail-check-interval : 150 elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/home/bor/.pinerc) ======= personal-name : Andrej Borsenkow user-domain : itsmx1.mow.sni.de nntp-server : news.sni.de inbox-path : INBOX incoming-folders : "SendMail" .Mail/NEWS/comp.mail.sendmail : "SAMBA" .Mail/samba : "meshhelp" .Mail/meshhelp : "Pine" .Mail/pine-info : "Perl/announce" .Mail/NEWS/comp.lang.perl.announce : "Win95NetBugs" .Mail/win95netbugs folder-collections : .Mail/[] signature-file : .elm/rsignature address-book : .sni : .addressbook feature-list : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-incoming-folders : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : signature-at-bottom : enable-flag-cmd : enable-aggregate-command-set : delete-skips-deleted : news-post-without-validation : save-will-advance : news-approximates-new-status : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation : enable-8bit-nntp-posting : reply-always-uses-reply-to : tab-visits-next-new-message-only initial-keystroke-li : i customized-hdrs : Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de saved-msg-name-rule : by-from fcc-name-rule : by-recipient sort-key : OrderedSubj character-set : iso-8859-1 printer : rsh itsmx2 lpr -ws=G203 -pb2 -mar=10 personal-print-comma : rsh itsmx2 lpr -ws=G203 -pb2 -mar=10 last-time-prune-ques : 96.3 last-version-used : 3.92 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last composer-wrap-column : 74 reply-indent-string : > use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lp bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu suggest-fullname : Pine Developers suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu local-fullname : Local Support local-address : postmaster kblock-passwd-count : 1 viewer-overlap : 2 status-message-delay : 0 mail-check-interval : 150 elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-allow-talk no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-auto-zoom-after-select no-auto-unzoom-after-apply no-compose-cut-from-cursor no-compose-maps-delete-key-to-ctrl-d no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-send-offers-first-filter no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-keymenu no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-disable-signature-edit-cmd enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation enable-8bit-nntp-posting enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-cruise-mode no-enable-cruise-mode-delete no-enable-dot-files no-enable-dot-folders enable-flag-cmd no-enable-flag-screen-implicitly enable-full-header-cmd enable-incoming-folders enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-mouse-in-xterm no-enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon enable-suspend enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-enable-verbose-smtp-posting no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-fcc-on-bounce no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply news-approximates-new-status news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-pass-control-characters-as-is no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt no-print-index-enabled no-print-formfeed-between-messages no-quell-dead-letter-on-cancel no-quell-lock-failure-warnings no-quell-status-message-beeping no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm reply-always-uses-reply-to no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-cursor no-show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-single-column-folder-list tab-visits-next-new-message-only no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys no-use-sender-not-x-sender no-use-subshell-for-suspend ========== Latest keystrokes ========== B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) d (0x0064) y (0x0079) x (0x0078) c (0x0063) c (0x0063) c (0x0063) c (0x0063) c (0x0063) c (0x0063) c (0x0063) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) RETURN (0x000d) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) RETURN (0x000d) m (0x006d) a (0x0061) RETURN (0x000d) RETURN (0x000d) RETURN (0x000d) RETURN (0x000d) ^R (0x0012) ^X (0x0018) e (0x0065) y (0x0079) c (0x0063) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) RETURN (0x000d) RETURN (0x000d) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) RETURN (0x000d) RETURN (0x000d) RETURN (0x000d) RETURN (0x000d) RETURN (0x000d) y (0x0079) ^C (0x0003) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) RETURN (0x000d) RETURN (0x000d) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) RETURN (0x000d) RETURN (0x000d) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) RETURN (0x000d) ESC (0x001b) ] (0x005d) RETURN (0x000d) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) RETURN (0x000d) RETURN (0x000d) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) RETURN (0x000d) RETURN (0x000d) RETURN (0x000d) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) RETURN (0x000d) RETURN (0x000d) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) RETURN (0x000d) RETURN (0x000d) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) RETURN (0x000d) RETURN (0x000d) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) RETURN (0x000d) y (0x0079) ^C (0x0003) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) c (0x0063) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) c (0x0063) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) RETURN (0x000d) e (0x0065) ^R (0x0012) e (0x0065) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) c (0x0063) o (0x006f) o (0x006f) o (0x006f) o (0x006f) m (0x006d) o (0x006f) b (0x0062) (0x0020) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) (0x0020) (0x0020) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) RETURN (0x000d) ---559023410-33463914-827350823=:9565-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 12:36:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16186; Wed, 20 Mar 96 12:36:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24281; Wed, 20 Mar 96 12:29:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24274; Wed, 20 Mar 96 12:29:01 -0800 Received: (sfl7fl@localhost) by scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (8.6.11/8.6.5) id PAA21940; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 15:21:10 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 15:21:03 -0500 (EST) From: john neuman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII set pine-info digest From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 13:20:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18691; Wed, 20 Mar 96 13:20:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12532; Wed, 20 Mar 96 12:51:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12526; Wed, 20 Mar 96 12:51:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzUmr-00038FC; Wed, 20 Mar 96 12:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cx163@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Morton Lee Cohen) Subject: Re: URGENT: Can't login to ftp server ftp.cac.washington.edu Date: 20 Mar 1996 18:36:38 GMT Message-Id: <4ipj7m$ql7@freenet-news.carleton.ca> References: <315010F6.59B3@aar-vki.dk> Eigil Krogh Sorensen (eks@aar-vki.dk) writes: > When I try to fetch the new pine 3.92 I can't login to the ftp > server. Here is what happens: > > (username) ftp > 331 Guest login ok, send ident as password. > Password: > 530 User ftp: can't change directory to /ftp/world. > Login failed. > ftp> > > > Can that be fixed ? > > -- > -- Eigil Krogh Sorensen > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > VKI ! ! > Water Quality Institute !Phone: !E-mail: > Science Park Aarhus ! +45 86 20 20 00 or ! > 10, Gustav Wieds Vej ! +45 86 20 20 11 local 2114 ! > eks@aar-vki.dk > DK-8000 Aarhus C !Fax: ! > DENMARK. ! +45 86 19 75 11 ! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Eigil, In your example, you didn't send your ID as your password. You need to send, Password: eks@aar-vk1.dk That's why the login: failed. -- Morton Lee Cohen --- E-Mail cx163@freenet.carleton.ca Resume' : Creator of "I Dream of Jeannie" and Creator and Developer of "XUXA" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 14:17:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20968; Wed, 20 Mar 96 14:17:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27126; Wed, 20 Mar 96 14:10:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25804; Wed, 20 Mar 96 13:22:15 -0800 Received: from alcor.Concordia.CA by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25798; Wed, 20 Mar 96 13:22:13 -0800 Received: (from ali_kha@localhost) by alcor.concordia.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA13570; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 16:22:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 16:22:06 -0500 (EST) From: Kochisse To: UW Robot Cc: Pine Announcement Distribution Subject: Re: Pine and PC-Pine 3.92 now available In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 19 Mar 1996, UW Robot wrote: > This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System > version 3.92. This release represents an evolutionary step forward in > Pine functionality. Nearly every facet of Pine's behavior has been > improved in one way or another. > > In the interest of brevity, the full list of changes and enhancements > isn't included here, but some of the main improvements are: > > o Optional message filtering hooks (can be used for PGP integration) > o Extensive address and list management improvements > o Additional printing capabilities > o Improved MIME and non-ascii support (mime.types, 1522, 8BITMIME) > o Improved PC-Pine for Windows (GUI amenities & 32bit version) > o Some modest performance improvements > o Many new personal-preference options and command improvements > o Hooks for integral file transfer between desktop computer & Unix Pine > o Builtin signature editor > o Improved user feedback when Pine is busy or waiting > > A more detailed list can be found in the built-in release notes ("R" off > the Main Menu). Even more information can be found via: > > http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine > and: > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs > > Please bear in mind the following caveat: While we believe this version > is reasonably stable, we consider it a "beta" code release. It has been > exposed to limited testing, but has yet to be proven in a production > environment. > > Pine version 3.92 source is available in: > > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z > and > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz > > PC-Pine in available in: > > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine > > and precompiled binaries for the various systems we have direct access to > are available in: > > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin > and > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed > > We'd like to thank the countless many who have taken the time to send us > valuable bug reports and suggestions, and welcome any comments you may > have regarding this release. We hope you find Pine 3.92 useful! > > Sincerely, > > The Pine Development Team > > I can't get your damn mail out of my mail box. I also lost all access to my previous mail. HELP!!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 16:23:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26000; Wed, 20 Mar 96 16:23:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00655; Wed, 20 Mar 96 16:19:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from stpaul.stpaul.lib.mn.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00649; Wed, 20 Mar 96 16:19:25 -0800 Received: by stpaul.lib.mn.us (5.65/1.35) id AA05994; Wed, 20 Mar 96 18:10:13 -0600 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 18:10:12 -0600 (CST) From: Marjorie Ross To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Mail: Invalid Permissions Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We are running Pine (Unix) on a Sequent S81. We add and delete users via the DYNIX/ptx software. We have a problem when we delete a user and then try to add the same user back into the system. The problem is that after the user has been added back to the system they get this message when they log in: "mail: Invalid permissions". No mail ever gets to their inbox however it does show up in /usr/mail/(userid). Does anyone know what our problem is? Marge Ross - Data Processing Center marger@stpaul.lib.mn.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 16:57:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27208; Wed, 20 Mar 96 16:57:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18822; Wed, 20 Mar 96 16:54:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18816; Wed, 20 Mar 96 16:54:34 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10004; Wed, 20 Mar 96 16:54:30 -0800 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 16:54:28 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Morton Lee Cohen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: URGENT: Can't login to ftp server ftp.cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <4ipj7m$ql7@freenet-news.carleton.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 20 Mar 1996, Morton Lee Cohen wrote: > > In your example, you didn't send your ID as your password. You need > to send, Password: eks@aar-vk1.dk > > That's why the login: failed. No, there actually was a problem with the FTP server this morning. That problem has now been fixed. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 17:04:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27746; Wed, 20 Mar 96 17:04:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18971; Wed, 20 Mar 96 17:00:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18965; Wed, 20 Mar 96 17:00:54 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10401; Wed, 20 Mar 96 17:00:25 -0800 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 17:00:23 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Marjorie Ross Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Mail: Invalid Permissions In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 20 Mar 1996, Marjorie Ross wrote: > We are running Pine (Unix) on a Sequent S81. We add and delete users via > the DYNIX/ptx software. We have a problem when we delete a user and then > try to add the same user back into the system. The problem is that after > the user has been added back to the system they get this message when > they log in: "mail: Invalid permissions". No mail ever gets to their > inbox however it does show up in /usr/mail/(userid). Does anyone know > what our problem is? > When you delete the user, does /usr/mail/(userid) get deleted? If not, the user may have a different UID when you re-create the account, while the mail spool is still owned by the old UID... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 17:19:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28613; Wed, 20 Mar 96 17:19:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02032; Wed, 20 Mar 96 17:11:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02024; Wed, 20 Mar 96 17:11:00 -0800 Received: from srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca by freenet.calgary.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA21070; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 18:07:31 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 18:07:31 -0700 (MST) From: Dean Radojevich To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: formatting In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: Calgary Free-Net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII David,that is all what I can see on the monitor; who could I know if I am out of disk space or over-quota and what shall I do in that case...there is no local Pine support here in Calgary?!. Thanks in advance, Regards Dean Mar-20-96 dradojev@freenet.calgary.ab.ca On Tue, 19 Mar 1996, David L Miller wrote: > > Is that the complete error message? Is it possible you are over-quota > or otherwise out of disk space? > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Mon, 18 Mar 1996, Dean Radojevich wrote: > > > Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 19:40:42 -0700 (MST) > > From: Dean Radojevich > > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > Cc: dradojev@freenet.calgary.ab.ca > > Subject: formatting > > Message-ID: > > Organization: Calgary Free-Net > > > > To whom it may concern: > > Lately I had some dificulties to download files from my mailbox. > > After specifying where to save the file, overwritting it and pressing Y > > for printing I am getting the following message: > > formatting error: error writting pipe: error writting attachment to > > "/u/dradojev/... > > What shall I do to overcome this problem ?; everything worked fine until > > a few days ago. > > Regards,Dean Radojevic > > dradojev@freenet.calgary.ab.ca > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 17:42:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29240; Wed, 20 Mar 96 17:42:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02421; Wed, 20 Mar 96 17:31:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02415; Wed, 20 Mar 96 17:31:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzZ9c-00038FC; Wed, 20 Mar 96 17:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: support Subject: [Q] Mark a read mail unread (new) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 19:11:51 -0500 Message-Id: <31509EC7.13335498@libhitech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been using standard unix 'mail' for a long time. At times I would just see the listing and read the mail and quit using 'x'. The mails would not be marked read. Is it possible in pine to read the mail and still have 'N' next to the message? -- Regards, support@libhitech.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- libHiTech.a - The Exclusive Electronic Computer Book Club (15-25% Discount) info@libhitech.com For automatic mailing of Club information and catalog. (please NO inquiries as this is an auto-reply server) support@libhitech.com For general questions and requests. order@libhitech.com For book orders. URL - http://www.libhitech.com libHiTech.a c/o Fountain Head, Inc., P.O. Box 136 Lake Hiawatha NJ 07034-0001 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 18:34:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00468; Wed, 20 Mar 96 18:34:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20626; Wed, 20 Mar 96 18:32:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20620; Wed, 20 Mar 96 18:32:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tza99-00038FC; Wed, 20 Mar 96 18:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: Is there a Pine for XWindows? Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 18:59:40 +0100 Message-Id: <9603191759.AA18266@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> In article <4ibot0$d7u@pravda.aa.msen.com>, you write: |> |> Subject says it. I don't ever recall seeing anything about an XPine, does |> it exist? Don't know whjat you exactly mean. I usually run Pine in a dedicated dxterm (and other people here do it in a dedicated xterm) window, and that's all what I need. (I've even seen posted a way to have a particular icon for that window, but I haven't kept sicne it doesn't work with dxterm) This for me it's all what I'd like to have by Pine under X. If you want anything more or different don't think so, but I won't consider it a "desirable" feature. (I'd like the same user interface when locally on my workstation console, and when elsewhere logged in remotely) -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- For more info : http://www.ifctr.mi.cnr.it/~lucio/personal.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 18:38:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00598; Wed, 20 Mar 96 18:38:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03341; Wed, 20 Mar 96 18:32:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03335; Wed, 20 Mar 96 18:32:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tza99-00038TC; Wed, 20 Mar 96 18:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: unclebob@ripco.com (Uncle Bob) Subject: Re: Sending copy to yourself? Date: 19 Mar 1996 18:40:39 GMT Message-Id: <4imv37$h7n@gail.ripco.com> References: Carl Kim (ck30@crux3.cit.cornell.edu) wrote: : Hello! : I was wondering how I could configure Pine to automagically send me a copy : of any message that I had composed. I looked into the config menu but could : not find out how. : Thanks! Why bother? Your outgoing posts are saved to the "sent-mail" folder automatically. -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Uncle Bob..............unclebob@ripco.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 20 23:31:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06258; Wed, 20 Mar 96 23:31:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24613; Wed, 20 Mar 96 23:27:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24607; Wed, 20 Mar 96 23:27:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzejN-00038FC; Wed, 20 Mar 96 23:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= Subject: Re: IMAP logins and usernames Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 22:41:39 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 19 Mar 1996, "Michael H. Martel" wrote: > Subject: Different UserNames on Different IMAP servers. > I noticed in the Release notes it says that I can now have different > usernames on different IMAP servers. However I can't seem to get this to > work. I have my incoming folders setup as : > {host.domain.com}INBOX, > so on and so forth. > How do I tell Pine what Username to use ? The specification to use would be: {imap.host/user=name} > Subject: Pine 3.92 handles IMAP logins differently than 3.91. > folders, and it prompts me for my username and password on the first of 4 > IMAP hosts. Fine. I enter them and it Pine dutifully checks my email on > those hosts. Then it searches my local folders (Pine and Procmail make a > powerfull combination!) and returns me to my INBOX. Great! > About 5 minutes later, I press again, and Pine goes and prompts me > for my Username on two of the four IMAP servers. You need to specify the usernames as outlined above for this to work. This allows people to have multiple IMAP logins on the same host. > Whoa. 3.91 always > remembered the Username and password for the session (until I exited > Pine). This meant that as soon as you logged in as one user to the host, you could not log in as another user on the same host without some sophisticated hacks. Now you can, at the expense of having to specify your username in the .pinerc to keep it in memory. Barry Bouwsma Radio Praha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 01:06:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07950; Thu, 21 Mar 96 01:06:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08430; Thu, 21 Mar 96 01:02:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08424; Thu, 21 Mar 96 01:02:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzgBp-00038FC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 00:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jwilleke@macalstr.edu (Jonathan C. Willeke) Subject: Mail-forwarding? Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:14:07 GMT Message-Id: <4iq3h0$72@mckinley.cit.macalstr.edu> I was hoping there'd be an FAQ on the subject, and maybe there is, but its location is not obvious. Can someone tell me how to get PINE to forward all mail from one account to another? Specifically, I have an account with a freenet that uses PINE, and I want to forward all that mail to a college account until I graduate in May. Thanks. --Jon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 01:23:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08332; Thu, 21 Mar 96 01:23:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25921; Thu, 21 Mar 96 01:17:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25915; Thu, 21 Mar 96 01:17:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzgRm-00038FC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 01:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Yin Subject: colors??? Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 01:59:03 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hey, anybody know how to make/get colors in pine, or if it isn't possible in tcsh or other shells? possible to have more then one color also? thanks for any help. .-------------------------------------------------------------------------. | Mike Yin | e-mail to: m-yin@students.uiuc.edu | | | : m-yin@meibm6.cen.uiuc.edu | | | homepage: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~m-yin | `-------------------------------------------------------------------------' From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 02:21:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09514; Thu, 21 Mar 96 02:21:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09276; Thu, 21 Mar 96 02:15:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09270; Thu, 21 Mar 96 02:15:49 -0800 Received: from taski by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA22500 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Thu, 21 Mar 1996 10:37:00 +0100 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 09:13:52 +0100 (MET) From: Kees de Bruin X-Sender: bruin@pori Reply-To: Kees de Bruin To: Pine Info mailing list Cc: Ashok Aiyar Subject: Re: Compilation of Pine 3.92 for Linux/ELF In-Reply-To: <199603201509.PAA24258@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu> Message-Id: X-Mail-Reader: Pine version 3.92 on Linux/ELF X-Attribution: KdB Organization: Tasking Software B.V. The Netherlands Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII [ Courtesy copy send to author -KdB ] Apologies if this message (or something alike) appears twice. I had some problems with Pine (as outlined below). On Wed, 20 Mar 1996, Ashok Aiyar wrote: > On 20 Mar 1996 03:57:03 -0800, Kees de Bruin wrote: > >to compile the source code for Linux running kernel 1.3.59 I had to make > >some changes to the sources (see attached file). These had to do with > >changing some of the compiler and linker flags, and the definition of the > >variable errno in many of the source files. This variable should not be > >defined by any program, just include for the definition. > > This patch fixes the linker errors, but does not resolve the problem > I have with sending mail via Pine. Unless I have an smtp server > defined in either ~/.pinerc or in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf, Pine 3.92 > gives an error and will not send mail on two Linux boxes that I have > tried it on. > > On these same systems Pine 3.91 works perfectly, without an smtp server > defined in the Pine configuration files (i.e it is able to use > /usr/lib/sendmail) ...... I have also noticed this, but sometimes it all works without any problem, but it can also hang the sendmail process. I now let Pine talk directly to the SMTP port on our mail/news server and I don't have any problems (yet). Regards, Kees. _ | | __ .-. .-. Kees de Bruin Tasking Software BV __________ | |/ / _| | | |_ |________## | ( / _ | | _ \ bruin@tasking.nl +31-33-4 55 85 84 |______#### |_|\_\ \___| |___/ fax: +31-33-4 55 00 33 |____###### |__######## Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are |########## From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 02:55:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10173; Thu, 21 Mar 96 02:55:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09592; Thu, 21 Mar 96 02:44:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09580; Thu, 21 Mar 96 02:44:43 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 21 Mar 1996 10:38:12 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA11650; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 10:39:33 GMT Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 10:39:33 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: support Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Q] Mark a read mail unread (new) In-Reply-To: <31509EC7.13335498@libhitech.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reading a message within Pine automatically changes its "N" flag to space (ie, read). When you quit out of Pine these changes are _always_ written to your mailbox; there is no "x" command equivalent to exit without updating. You can achieve what you want in either of two ways: 1) Change the flag back to "N" after reading the message. To do this you must first enable the "flag" command; from Pine's main menu go to the Setup Configuration screen (S then C) and look down the list for the "enable-flag-cmd" feature. Make sure this is enabled. Return to your message then use the flag command to set the status flag back to "N": * N Voila! 2) Open your INBOX read-only. This prevents _anything_ from being changed (ie, status flags ... also prevents you deleting messages though!) Do this by starting Pine with the "-o" command line option. Thus to go straight into the INBOX's index screen but in read-only mode the command would be: pine -oi Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 20 Mar 1996, support wrote: > I have been using standard unix 'mail' for a long time. At times I would just > see the listing and read the mail and quit using 'x'. The mails would not be > marked read. > > Is it possible in pine to read the mail and still have 'N' next to the message? > -- > > Regards, > support@libhitech.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > libHiTech.a - The Exclusive Electronic Computer Book Club (15-25% Discount) > > info@libhitech.com For automatic mailing of Club information and catalog. > (please NO inquiries as this is an auto-reply server) > support@libhitech.com For general questions and requests. > order@libhitech.com For book orders. > > URL - http://www.libhitech.com > > libHiTech.a c/o Fountain Head, Inc., P.O. Box 136 Lake Hiawatha NJ 07034-0001 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 04:37:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13239; Thu, 21 Mar 96 04:37:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10969; Thu, 21 Mar 96 04:33:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10963; Thu, 21 Mar 96 04:33:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzjXa-00038FC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 04:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eigil Krogh Sorensen Subject: URGENT: Can't login to ftp server ftp.cac.washington.edu Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 15:06:46 +0100 Message-Id: <315010F6.59B3@aar-vki.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I try to fetch the new pine 3.92 I can't login to the ftp server. Here is what happens: (username) ftp 331 Guest login ok, send ident as password. Password: 530 User ftp: can't change directory to /ftp/world. Login failed. ftp> Can that be fixed ? -- -- Eigil Krogh Sorensen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- VKI ! ! Water Quality Institute !Phone: !E-mail: Science Park Aarhus ! +45 86 20 20 00 or ! 10, Gustav Wieds Vej ! +45 86 20 20 11 local 2114 ! eks@aar-vki.dk DK-8000 Aarhus C !Fax: ! DENMARK. ! +45 86 19 75 11 ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 05:11:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14138; Thu, 21 Mar 96 05:11:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28830; Thu, 21 Mar 96 05:08:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28824; Thu, 21 Mar 96 05:08:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzk1G-00038FC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 05:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cx163@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Morton Lee Cohen) Subject: Re: How to both Post and Mail? Date: 20 Mar 1996 08:00:52 GMT Message-Id: <4iodvk$cn9@freenet-news.carleton.ca> References: David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) writes: > On Tue, 5 Mar 1996, Michiel Perdeck wrote: > >> I noticed tha many people seem to both post a folowup message in a >> newsgroup and send the same message by mail. How can I do that using Tin, >> Pine and Pico? >> > > In Pine 3.92, you are given the option to post, reply by e-mail, or > both post and reply. This is different from, and hopefully more clear > than, the old Pine 3.91 behavior. > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > Hi David, Questions: 1.) In PINE, the new version, can I as the user go directly to a message by keying the number of the message? Old 3.91 version, this wasn't possible. 2.) Is PINE, able to run on a home computer not tied to any servers, for the express purpose of downloading messages and replying OFFLINE and saving the replies in a postpone-messages folder and uploading them to your server and mailing the messages one at a time from the postpone-messages folder. 3.) Is there available to users of the PINE mail system, to download mail folders from the Freenet site let's say and do the above with PINE or another OFFLINE mail reader. 4.) Does PINE run under MS-DOS? -- Morton Lee Cohen --- E-Mail cx163@freenet.carleton.ca Resume' : Creator of "I Dream of Jeannie" and Creator and Developer of "XUXA" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 05:33:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14509; Thu, 21 Mar 96 05:33:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11638; Thu, 21 Mar 96 05:24:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ebv.oncology.wisc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11632; Thu, 21 Mar 96 05:24:04 -0800 Received: from localhost (aiyar@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ebv.oncology.wisc.edu (8.7.5+aaa/EBV-1.1) with SMTP id NAA26566; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 13:22:49 GMT Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 07:22:45 -0600 (CST) From: Ashok Aiyar To: Kees de Bruin Cc: Pine Info mailing list Subject: Re: Compilation of Pine 3.92 for Linux/ELF In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 21 Mar 1996, Kees de Bruin wrote: > > On these same systems Pine 3.91 works perfectly, without an smtp server > > defined in the Pine configuration files (i.e it is able to use > > /usr/lib/sendmail) ...... > >I have also noticed this, but sometimes it all works without any problem, >but it can also hang the sendmail process. I now let Pine talk directly to >the SMTP port on our mail/news server and I don't have any problems (yet). Thank you for your reply. I have decided to do exactly the same. However I do think that this is a bug in Pine 3.92 relative to 3.91 .... perhaps the developers can look into it at some point of time. Cheers, Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. Department of Oncology aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison tel: (608) 262-6697 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 06:35:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15748; Thu, 21 Mar 96 06:35:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12392; Thu, 21 Mar 96 06:28:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12386; Thu, 21 Mar 96 06:28:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzlKv-00038UC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 06:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sharpes International Subject: PINE on ICL DRS6000 Date: 20 Mar 1996 10:50:56 GMT Message-Id: <4ionug$r3e@soap.news.pipex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anybody sucessfully implemented Pine on an ICL DRS 6000 using M5, M15 and M303 vids ? Please email as I am having some difficulty receiving news. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 06:56:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16184; Thu, 21 Mar 96 06:56:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12672; Thu, 21 Mar 96 06:48:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Princeton.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12666; Thu, 21 Mar 96 06:48:38 -0800 Received: from cedman.remote.Princeton.EDU by Princeton.EDU (5.65b/2.124/princeton) id AA08686; Thu, 21 Mar 96 09:48:34 -0500 Received: from capitalist.princeton.edu by capitalist.princeton.edu (8.6.12/1.115) id JAA12786; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 09:48:30 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 09:48:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: NeXTMail... any chance PINE will learn it? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 19 Mar 1996, David L Miller wrote: > I'm not that familiar with NeXTMail, but if the message has a > well-defined string that you could key on, you could write a > "display-filter" script to handle the decoding... I don't know what a 'display-filter' script is, or how to write one. a 'well-defined string' is also a term I do not know. There is a unique header line for each NeXTMail message. The message itself will be simply uuencoded after being tar'd and compressed (the message will be message.tar.Z, then message.tar.Z is uuencoded and mailed). Does that help any? Thanks for the response... TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma NeXT Info Available via email on: PPP under NeXTStep, swapfiles, swapdisks, hidden dwrites, NeXTStep tricks and shortcuts, NeXTStep FAQ, and more... For details, send message with subject 'send info' From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 08:03:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18298; Thu, 21 Mar 96 08:03:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13787; Thu, 21 Mar 96 07:49:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [199.0.71.15] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13781; Thu, 21 Mar 96 07:49:21 -0800 Received: from joannes.rounder.com (joannes.rounder.com [199.0.71.105]) by rounder.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA06861 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 10:50:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 10:36:57 -0500 () From: "Jo Anne T. Spreen" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: message alert Message-Id: X-Sender: joannes@rounder.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We are running PC-Pine v. 3.92 on our system. I was wondering if there is a way to disable the message alert (you know, where it tells you that there are so many new messages and who the most recent one is from). I would appreciate any help you can give. Thanks. Jo Anne @ Rounder Records From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 10:55:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26739; Thu, 21 Mar 96 10:55:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06166; Thu, 21 Mar 96 10:45:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from h141-206-15-110.ATTGIS.COM by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06157; Thu, 21 Mar 96 10:44:57 -0800 Received: from hostsw7.ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.COM by mailhost.ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12987; Thu, 21 Mar 96 10:43:51 PST Received: from localhost by hostsw7.ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14229; Thu, 21 Mar 96 10:43:49 PST Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 10:43:49 -0800 (PST) From: Steven Feinholz X-Sender: sf3@hostsw7 Reply-To: Steven Feinholz To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PINE (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am forwarding a question from a coworker concerning a long delay when sending email using Pine 3.92. _____________________________________________________________________ ==== AT&T GIS | Steven Feinholz | VOICEplus: 427-5945 =--=== N | Client Software | Phone: (310) 524-5945 =--=== C | 100 N. Sepulveda Blvd. | FAX: (310) 524-5515 ==== R | El Segundo, Ca 90245 | sf3@ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.com _____________________________________________________________________ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 08:00:16 -0800 (PST) From: Gary Jones To: Steven Feinholz Subject: PINE I haven't read the detail of the PINE changes yet, so perhaps this is known. Or perhaps it has nothing to do with PINE. But quite often when sending an Email with the new version, there is a rather long delay (a "Sending 0%" message appears on the screen. AFter a minute, things start moving again and everything is normal. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 10:58:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26872; Thu, 21 Mar 96 10:58:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18802; Thu, 21 Mar 96 10:48:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18796; Thu, 21 Mar 96 10:48:49 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28386; Thu, 21 Mar 96 10:48:36 -0800 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 10:48:34 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: "Jo Anne T. Spreen" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: message alert In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 21 Mar 1996, Jo Anne T. Spreen wrote: > We are running PC-Pine v. 3.92 on our system. I was wondering if there is > a way to disable the message alert (you know, where it tells you that > there are so many new messages and who the most recent one is from). > > I would appreciate any help you can give. > You can completely disable the new-mail check by setting mail-check-interval=0 in the Setup/Config screen. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 12:08:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00159; Thu, 21 Mar 96 12:08:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07846; Thu, 21 Mar 96 11:53:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07840; Thu, 21 Mar 96 11:53:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzqOS-00038FC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 11:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: huffy@Walden.mo.net (Huffy) Subject: incoming mail Date: 21 Mar 1996 13:21:56 GMT Message-Id: <4irl5k$7h9@Twain.MO.NET> Hi!! Could somebody please send me some info on how to fix certain incoming mail to go into certain folders instead of all my mail going into my inbox. The reason I'm asking is that I'm sub to bunches of listserv email list and I don't want them all coming into my inbox. Can this be done? Thanks Chris Huffy@mo.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 12:08:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00185; Thu, 21 Mar 96 12:08:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20458; Thu, 21 Mar 96 11:53:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20452; Thu, 21 Mar 96 11:53:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzqPB-00038TC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 11:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hogeweg@CRI.LeidenUniv.NL (Dick Hogeweg) Subject: Re: Different UserNames on Different IMAP servers. Date: Thu, 21 Mar 96 13:33:20 GMT Message-Id: <4irlse$kph@highway.leidenuniv.nl> References: In article , dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller) wrote: > >To specify a different username on the remote server, use > > {host.domain.com/user=somebody}INBOX > > >On Tue, 19 Mar 1996, Michael H. Martel wrote: > >> >> I just downloaded Pine 3.92 and compiled it and it works great! Great job >> everyone! >> >> I noticed in the Release notes it says that I can now have different >> usernames on different IMAP servers. However I can't seem to get this to >> work. I have my incoming folders setup as : >> >> {host.domain.com}INBOX, >> so on and so forth. >> >> How do I tell Pine what Username to use ? >> >> Thanks for such a great product! This feature would have been very nice but why does it not work for PC-Pine? Kind regards, Dick Hogeweg Email: D.J.Hogeweg@CRI.LeidenUniv.NL CRI, instituut voor telecommunicatie _______ en computerdienstverlening | Postbus 9512, 2300 RA Leiden Rijks Universiteit Leiden | tel. 071-276900, fax 071-276967 | | | | | | | - Met vriendelijke groeten, Dick Hogeweg tel: (071-27)6913 Email: D.J.Hogeweg@CRI.LeidenUniv.NL CRI, instituut voor telecommunicatie _______ en computerdienstverlening | Postbus 9512, 2300 RA Leiden Rijks Universiteit Leiden | tel. 071-276900, fax 071-276967 | | | | | | | - From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 12:31:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02106; Thu, 21 Mar 96 12:31:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08559; Thu, 21 Mar 96 12:19:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08551; Thu, 21 Mar 96 12:18:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzqnc-00038TC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 12:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: snabb@niksula.hut.fi (Janne Snabb) Subject: PGP interface for Pine 3.92? Date: 21 Mar 96 18:37:38 GMT Message-Id: If I understand correctly, the new version of pine (3.92) has all the necessary hooks to make a smooth PGP interface. Has anyone done it already or planning to do it soon? (I'm trying to avoid re-inventing the wheel. :-) -- Janne Snabb snabb@niksula.hut.fi From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 12:41:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03721; Thu, 21 Mar 96 12:41:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21543; Thu, 21 Mar 96 12:29:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21537; Thu, 21 Mar 96 12:28:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzqvD-00038TC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 12:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Can mail be blocked? Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 20:12:53 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4ikr2n$aht@daily-planet.execpc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4ikr2n$aht@daily-planet.execpc.com> On Mon, 18 Mar 1996, dennis m. wrote: > Is it possible to block mail from certain domains. If so, how and do you do it > with pine or somewhere in your shell. Pine as such does not have this capability. Because you refer to "your shell," I presume you are using some kind of Unix system. In that case, you can use procmail or filter to preprocess mail to reject incoming mail according to criteria you specify (such as a specific domain). Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 12:41:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03774; Thu, 21 Mar 96 12:41:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22262; Thu, 21 Mar 96 12:36:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from duke.usask.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22256; Thu, 21 Mar 96 12:36:01 -0800 Received: by duke.usask.ca; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/30Oct95-0242PM) id AA05714; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:35:59 -0600 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:35:59 -0600 (CST) From: "Greg W. Pittman" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe it has been great From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 14:42:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08865; Thu, 21 Mar 96 14:42:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12552; Thu, 21 Mar 96 14:34:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12546; Thu, 21 Mar 96 14:34:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzssI-00038UC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 14:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: richw@yank.kitchener.on.ca (Rich Wales) Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 on BSDI ? Date: 21 Mar 1996 17:19:05 -0500 Message-Id: <19960321215317.richw@yank.kitchener.on.ca> References: jason@webmaster.net (Jason R. Mastaler) wrote: Has anyone been able to build the Pine 3.92 distribution under BSD/OS 2.0? One of the supported build target platforms is "bsi" (BSDi BSD/386), but an attempted build fails on my BSD/OS machine badly. Any hints, or patches I should know about? Thanks. I managed to get Pine 3.92 to build under BSD/OS 2.01 and 2.1 just now, after making several minor changes (see below). I no longer have access to a BSDI 1.x system, but my recollection (from earlier build efforts) is that the changes I made here were =not= needed for that older system. Since there are still lots of people out there running BSDI 1.x, the best solution may be for Pine to support two tar- gets (one for 1.x, another for 2.x). Rich Wales http://yank.kitchener.on.ca/~richw/ ======================================================================== *** 1.1 1996/03/21 21:11:45 --- pico/os_unix.c 1996/03/21 21:26:16 *************** *** 1313,1319 **** errstr(err) int err; { ! #ifndef neb extern char *sys_errlist[]; #endif extern int sys_nerr; --- 1313,1319 ---- errstr(err) int err; { ! #if !defined(neb) && !defined(BSDI) extern char *sys_errlist[]; #endif extern int sys_nerr; *** 1.1 1996/03/21 21:20:58 --- pico/os_unix.h 1996/03/21 21:26:19 *************** *** 100,106 **** /* * type qsort() expects */ ! #if defined(nxt) || defined(neb) #define QSType void #define QcompType const void #else --- 100,106 ---- /* * type qsort() expects */ ! #if defined(nxt) || defined(neb) || defined(BSDI) #define QSType void #define QcompType const void #else *** 1.1 1996/03/21 21:38:59 --- pine/osdep/os-bsi.ic 1996/03/21 21:39:25 *************** *** 1,5 **** ; ! ; NeXT os-nxt.ic file for building os-nxt.c. ; ; Boilerplate header. include(header) --- 1,5 ---- ; ! ; NeXT os-bsi.ic file for building os-bsi.c. ; ; Boilerplate header. include(header) *************** *** 91,97 **** ; called err_desc.dos is the same except that it doesn't declare the ; variable sys_errlist[], which is already declared. There ; is also a version called err_desc.hom which is unused. ! include(err_desc) ; There are six functions in this include. They are get_system_login, ; get_system_fullname, get_system_homedir, get_system_passwd, gcos_name, --- 91,97 ---- ; called err_desc.dos is the same except that it doesn't declare the ; variable sys_errlist[], which is already declared. There ; is also a version called err_desc.hom which is unused. ! include(err_desc.dos) ; There are six functions in this include. They are get_system_login, ; get_system_fullname, get_system_homedir, get_system_passwd, gcos_name, *** 1.1 1996/03/21 21:14:33 --- imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile 1996/03/21 21:14:48 *************** *** 110,116 **** bsi: # BSD/i386 $(MAKE) mtest OS=$@ EXTRADRIVERS="$(EXTRADRIVERS)" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto MAILSPOOL=/var/mail \ ! ACTIVEFILE"/usr/lib/news/active NEWSSPOOL=/usr/spool/news \ RSHPATH=/usr/bin/rsh CFLAGS="-g -O -pipe -DNFSKLUDGE $(EXTRACFLAGS)" cvx: # Convex --- 110,116 ---- bsi: # BSD/i386 $(MAKE) mtest OS=$@ EXTRADRIVERS="$(EXTRADRIVERS)" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto MAILSPOOL=/var/mail \ ! ACTIVEFILE=/usr/lib/news/active NEWSSPOOL=/usr/spool/news \ RSHPATH=/usr/bin/rsh CFLAGS="-g -O -pipe -DNFSKLUDGE $(EXTRACFLAGS)" cvx: # Convex ======================================================================== Rich Wales http://yank.kitchener.on.ca/~richw/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 15:34:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10381; Thu, 21 Mar 96 15:34:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26610; Thu, 21 Mar 96 15:29:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26604; Thu, 21 Mar 96 15:29:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tztlJ-00038UC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 15:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andreas@knobel.gun.de (Andreas Klemm) Subject: mirrors for pine would be fine Date: 21 Mar 1996 21:11:57 GMT Message-Id: <4isgmt$18e@knobel.gun.de> It's nearly impossible to get pine 3.92 from your ftp server. It's totally overcrowded. You should have organized some mirrors before the announcement ! Or please do it now. -- andreas@knobel.gun.de /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ $$ Support Unix - aklemm@wup.de $$ pgp p-key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html >>> powered by <<< ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz >>> FreeBSD <<< "Ich bleibe bei der Aussage und trotze den Flames. :-)" Ulli Horlacher 02/96 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 15:38:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10486; Thu, 21 Mar 96 15:38:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14014; Thu, 21 Mar 96 15:34:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14008; Thu, 21 Mar 96 15:34:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tztnk-00038UC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 15:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thadley@cvmbs2.vetmed.colostate.edu (Thom Hadley) Subject: Problem with PC Pine 3.92 Date: 21 Mar 1996 15:36:05 GMT Message-Id: <4irt15$sis@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> This is most likely my stupidity but when I am using the PC-PINE 3.92 product under Windows95 and trying to connect to an AIX 3.2.5 box I get the following message vth.colostate.edu connection refused. I have the inbox setting in the configuation file as: {cvmbs2.vetmed.colostate.edu}INBOX. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance. ************************************************************************ Thom Hadley Voice: (970) 491-3439 College of Veterinary Medicine Fax: (970) 491-5413 and Biomedical Sciences Email: thadley@vetmed.colostate.edu Budget and Finance Office Room 101A Physiology Colorado State University Fort Collins, Colorado 80523 ************************************************************************ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 17:02:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13883; Thu, 21 Mar 96 17:02:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28919; Thu, 21 Mar 96 16:59:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28913; Thu, 21 Mar 96 16:59:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzvAb-00038FC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 16:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: masi Subject: SCO Binaries for 3.92 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:58:31 -0800 Message-Id: <31520947.2ABD@teleport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone know of a pine 3.92 binary for SCO? I've got release 3.2, version 4.1, but anything close would be fine. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 17:02:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13885; Thu, 21 Mar 96 17:02:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16171; Thu, 21 Mar 96 16:59:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16165; Thu, 21 Mar 96 16:59:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzvAc-00038TC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 16:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: masi Subject: SCO Binaries for 3.92 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:58:42 -0800 Message-Id: <31520952.5EE6@teleport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone know of a pine 3.92 binary for SCO? I've got release 3.2, version 4.1, but anything close would be fine. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 17:12:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15153; Thu, 21 Mar 96 17:12:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16651; Thu, 21 Mar 96 17:09:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16645; Thu, 21 Mar 96 17:09:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzvJe-00038TC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 17:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: masi Subject: SCO Binaries for 3.92 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:59:23 -0800 Message-Id: <3152097B.5E88@teleport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone know of a pine 3.92 binary for SCO? I've got release 3.2, version 4.1, but anything close would be fine. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 17:13:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15191; Thu, 21 Mar 96 17:13:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29466; Thu, 21 Mar 96 17:09:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29456; Thu, 21 Mar 96 17:09:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzvJd-00038FC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 17:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: masi Subject: SCO Binaries for 3.92 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:59:31 -0800 Message-Id: <31520983.464A@teleport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone know of a pine 3.92 binary for SCO? I've got release 3.2, version 4.1, but anything close would be fine. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 17:15:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15265; Thu, 21 Mar 96 17:15:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29474; Thu, 21 Mar 96 17:09:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29468; Thu, 21 Mar 96 17:09:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzvJe-00038UC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 17:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: masi Subject: SCO Binaries for 3.92 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:59:02 -0800 Message-Id: <31520966.4785@teleport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone know of a pine 3.92 binary for SCO? I've got release 3.2, version 4.1, but anything close would be fine. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 18:23:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01106; Thu, 21 Mar 96 18:23:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00850; Thu, 21 Mar 96 18:19:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00844; Thu, 21 Mar 96 18:19:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzwQw-00038TC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 18:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cmorrone@gilb5.gilb.udel.edu (Christopher Morrone) Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 and Linux problems Date: 21 Mar 1996 06:20:43 GMT Message-Id: <4iqsfr$5v2@news.udel.edu> References: Ashok Aiyar (aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu) wrote: : Has anyone been able to successfully run Pine 3.92 under Linux? You could just get the bin instead of compiling it. The bin's are ELF, and work fine for me (kernel 1.3.68). Of course if you have special options you need to compile in, I haven't been much help... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Dolly Parton: I'm your biggest fan! What do you say to that? Brain: I'd say puberty was inordinately kind to you. -- Bubba Bo Bob Brain -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 19:10:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01790; Thu, 21 Mar 96 19:10:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17696; Thu, 21 Mar 96 18:09:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17689; Thu, 21 Mar 96 18:09:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzwHn-00038FC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 18:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jason@webmaster.net (Jason R. Mastaler) Subject: Pine 3.92 on BSDI ? Date: 20 Mar 1996 14:46:11 -0500 Message-Id: Has anyone been able to build the Pine 3.92 distribution under BSD/OS 2.0? One of the supported build target platforms is "bsi" (BSDi BSD/386), but an attempted build fails on my BSD/OS machine badly. Any hints, or patches I should know about? Thanks. -- Jason R. Mastaler jason@webmaster.net Cadmus Interactive http://www.CADMUS-I.COM/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 19:59:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03189; Thu, 21 Mar 96 19:59:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19003; Thu, 21 Mar 96 19:49:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18997; Thu, 21 Mar 96 19:49:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzxoH-00038FC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 19:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu (Ashok Aiyar) Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 and Linux problems Date: 21 Mar 1996 17:38:35 GMT Message-Id: References: <4iqsfr$5v2@news.udel.edu> On 21 Mar 1996 06:20:43 GMT, Christopher Morrone wrote: >Ashok Aiyar (aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu) wrote: >: Has anyone been able to successfully run Pine 3.92 under Linux? > >You could just get the bin instead of compiling it. The bin's are ELF, >and work fine for me (kernel 1.3.68). Of course if you have special >options you need to compile in, I haven't been much help... > The precompiled Pine binary does the exact same thing. The problems are not unique to my system, but seem to occur on other systems running sendmail-8.7.x. I am going to test the new Pine with Sendmail-8.6.x next ...... Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. Department of Oncology aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison tel: (608) 262-6697 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 21:50:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05246; Thu, 21 Mar 96 21:50:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03422; Thu, 21 Mar 96 21:45:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03416; Thu, 21 Mar 96 21:45:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzzau-00038UC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 21:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ben Norwood Subject: Re: Specific E-Mail to specific folders question Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 15:07:43 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Note: following information is based on the Uni of Wales Aberystwyth's OSF system. On 16 Mar 1996, Steven wrote: > I was wondering if there's a way to get specific E-Mail (like >this mailing list for example) in seperate folders? Please post/mail >with answers and thanks in advance for any help. > Pine cannot automatically sort email into folders on delivery. However, it is possible to edit a file called .mailfilter to automatically send files to different folders as follows: if (!delivered && $(from)==/abc@cde.fgh/) { unixfile "mail/abc"; } This places mail from abc@cde.fgh into the folder abc if (!delivered && $(from)==/zyx@vwu.tsr/) { delivered=TRUE; } Delete-on-delivery : you will NOT recieve any mail from zyx@vwu.tsr if (!delivered) { unixfile "mail/INBOX"; } This places any remaining mail into the inbox. Hope this helps. _ http://www.aber.ac.uk/~bdn5 "If thou hast gathered nothing | \ |\ | bdn5@aber.ac.uk in thy youth, how canst thou |-< | \ | UWA Biology Undergrad find anything in thine age?" |_/ en | \| orwood Ecclesiasticus 25:3 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 21:53:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05302; Thu, 21 Mar 96 21:53:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03456; Thu, 21 Mar 96 21:46:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03450; Thu, 21 Mar 96 21:46:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzzdn-00038YC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 21:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ben Norwood Subject: Re: Save me from myself? Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 15:25:13 +0000 Message-Id: References: <4iknhj$fc7@newsreader.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4iknhj$fc7@newsreader.wustl.edu> On 18 Mar 1996, Lori Fox wrote: > I have too often "replied" to a group when I really meant to >reply to an individual. (I know that pine asks me if I want to send it >to a different address or to all recipients and that I have to say "yes" >if I do, but I repeatedly find that my fingers are working faster than my >mind.) Is there any way to disable these functions so I have to manually >*add* a cc if I want to send the document to a group? I would be >grateful (and my many correspondents would be really grateful) if you >could suggest a solution. > Upgrade to version 3.92 It asks you: Followup to newsgroups, Reply by email to author, or Both? And you have to press F, R, or B Pressing Y will just produce an error message. Hope this helps. _ http://www.aber.ac.uk/~bdn5 "If thou hast gathered nothing | \ |\ | bdn5@aber.ac.uk in thy youth, how canst thou |-< | \ | UWA Biology Undergrad find anything in thine age?" |_/ en | \| orwood Ecclesiasticus 25:3 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 21:53:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05328; Thu, 21 Mar 96 21:53:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03448; Thu, 21 Mar 96 21:46:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03442; Thu, 21 Mar 96 21:46:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzzcl-00038FC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 21:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ben Norwood Subject: Re: Need help: can PINE reject letters from A sender? Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 15:16:38 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 17 Mar 1996, Christopher Steven Williams wrote: >Can PINE reject letters from specific senders. Is this a procmail >problem? If it is, I would really appreciate some info on the matter. > >Thanks! > On the Uni of Wales Aberystwyth's OSF systems, there is a file called .mailfilter in the mail direcotry which serves as an on-delivery sorting device. if (!delivered && $(from)==/abc@def.ghi/) { delivered=TRUE; } Add this to your .mailfilter (if you have one) and you will NOT recieve any mails from abc@def.ghi Obviously you can edit the address. And whilst you're in the .mailfilter, if you want to sort incoming mail into different folders: if (!delivered && $(from)==/zyx@wvu.tsr/) { unixfile "mail/zyx"; } This will put mail from zyx@wvu.tsr into folder zyx if (!delivered) { unixfile "mail/INBOX"; } Keep this, this tells all other mail to go into the inbox. _ http://www.aber.ac.uk/~bdn5 "If thou hast gathered nothing | \ |\ | bdn5@aber.ac.uk in thy youth, how canst thou |-< | \ | UWA Biology Undergrad find anything in thine age?" |_/ en | \| orwood Ecclesiasticus 25:3 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 21:54:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05363; Thu, 21 Mar 96 21:54:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20372; Thu, 21 Mar 96 21:46:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20366; Thu, 21 Mar 96 21:46:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzzbe-00038WC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 21:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ben Norwood Subject: Re: Using MH folders - how? Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 15:00:31 +0000 Message-Id: References: <4i40d7$2ms@kuikka.inet.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 17 Mar 1996, Simon Bennett wrote: >: It works except that I can't get pine to read ~/Mail/inbox (MH's "inbox") > >Unless PINE's got a new feature I don't know about, it can't read the MH style >messages (which are stored in separate files) - you can however convert MH >"folders" into mail style files which can be read by pine/elm/mailx etc.. The >easiest way is to use packmbox.sh which comes in the MH 6.8 ditribution. > >If you end up hating PINE you can always go back to MH by re inc'ing the PINE >files back into MH "folders". > At UWA (Uni of Wales Aberystwyth) the 'supported mail programs' use mh, but until demand is sufficient and the Pine development team include mh support, Pine users here are stuck with having to use pine's own folder system. No doubt it will be the same with your system. _ http://www.aber.ac.uk/~bdn5 "If thou hast gathered nothing | \ |\ | bdn5@aber.ac.uk in thy youth, how canst thou |-< | \ | UWA Biology Undergrad find anything in thine age?" |_/ en | \| orwood Ecclesiasticus 25:3 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 21:58:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05471; Thu, 21 Mar 96 21:58:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20383; Thu, 21 Mar 96 21:46:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20377; Thu, 21 Mar 96 21:46:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tzzdn-00038XC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 21:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ben Norwood Subject: Re: ^L on a NeXT Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 15:23:10 +0000 Message-Id: References: <9603142136.AA22929@fermat.foe.calpoly.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 18 Mar 1996, Rick Troxel wrote: > Well, ^L DOES refresh the screen, as expected, but it doesn't update > the index. > >Feature (b) was introduced in version 3.90. Upgrade, and you'll have >it. > Better still, grab version 3.92 :) _ http://www.aber.ac.uk/~bdn5 "If thou hast gathered nothing | \ |\ | bdn5@aber.ac.uk in thy youth, how canst thou |-< | \ | UWA Biology Undergrad find anything in thine age?" |_/ en | \| orwood Ecclesiasticus 25:3 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 22:23:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06066; Thu, 21 Mar 96 22:23:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20858; Thu, 21 Mar 96 22:20:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20846; Thu, 21 Mar 96 22:20:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u00Bd-00038TC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 22:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: POP and Pine again!!! Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 21:17:14 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4ip0ob$69n@sun4.bham.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 21 Mar 1996, Mihai T. LAZARESCU wrote: > In .pinerc define under folder-collections: > > "Description string" {pop3_hostname.domain/pop3}/path_to_inbox ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The "/path_to_inbox" part is wrong. Anything other than "inbox" here will be rejected. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 22:23:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06078; Thu, 21 Mar 96 22:23:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03911; Thu, 21 Mar 96 22:20:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03905; Thu, 21 Mar 96 22:20:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u00Bf-00038UC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 22:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: NeXTMail... any chance PINE will learn it? Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 21:15:27 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 21 Mar 1996, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > On Tue, 19 Mar 1996, David L Miller wrote: > > I'm not that familiar with NeXTMail, but if the message has a > > well-defined string that you could key on, you could write a > > "display-filter" script to handle the decoding... > I don't know what a 'display-filter' script is, or how to write one. > > a 'well-defined string' is also a term I do not know. There is a unique > header line for each NeXTMail message. The message itself will be simply > uuencoded after being tar'd and compressed (the message will be > message.tar.Z, then message.tar.Z is uuencoded and mailed). > > Does that help any? The basic answer to your message is that no, there are no plans to support NeXTmail now or in the future. Even NeXT has abandoned this format in favor of MIME. NeXTmail has a serious security problem due to its use of uudecode and tar; you need "safe" versions of these. Newer releases of Mail.app from NeXT contains "safe" copies of both programs, after (as a demonstration to prove the magnitude of the problem) I put together a piece of evil NeXTmail that cracks any system which has a user foolish enough to read the message. NeXTmail also requires a RTF decoder. Or rather, a NeXT RTF decoder; every vendor's RTF is different. You can pipe the message body to a shell script that will uudecode and untar it, then execute an RTF viewer. The new display-filter capability in Pine 3.92 permits doing this automatically; read the documentation on display-filter and any good Unix text on how to write shell scripts. I must say, though, anybody who opens a NeXTmail format message automatically without any security checks is a much braver man than I. I must *emphasize* that the security problem described above is very real, especially on real NEXTSTEP systems. We're talking email virus, folks. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 22:40:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06425; Thu, 21 Mar 96 22:40:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04113; Thu, 21 Mar 96 22:35:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04107; Thu, 21 Mar 96 22:35:18 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03370; Thu, 21 Mar 96 22:35:12 -0800 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 22:35:11 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Ben Norwood Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using MH folders - how? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 21 Mar 1996, Ben Norwood wrote: > On Sun, 17 Mar 1996, Simon Bennett wrote: > > >: It works except that I can't get pine to read ~/Mail/inbox (MH's "inbox") > > > >Unless PINE's got a new feature I don't know about, it can't read the MH style > >messages (which are stored in separate files) - you can however convert MH > >"folders" into mail style files which can be read by pine/elm/mailx etc.. The > >easiest way is to use packmbox.sh which comes in the MH 6.8 ditribution. > > > >If you end up hating PINE you can always go back to MH by re inc'ing the PINE > >files back into MH "folders". > > > > At UWA (Uni of Wales Aberystwyth) the 'supported mail programs' use mh, > but until demand is sufficient and the Pine development team include mh > support, Pine users here are stuck with having to use pine's own folder > system. No doubt it will be the same with your system. > Pine has included MH support since at least Pine 3.90. The MH INBOX can be specified with inbox-path=#MHINBOX And your other folders in ~/Mail/ can be referenced with folder-collections=#MH/[] Sub-folders are a bit tricker; you need to specify them as separate collections, e.g. for the folders in ~/Mail/foo/, specify folder-collections=#MH/foo/[] Putting the whole hierarchy in one collection will probably be available in about Pine 4.1 (maybe even 4.0). |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 23:52:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07604; Thu, 21 Mar 96 23:52:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21944; Thu, 21 Mar 96 23:50:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21938; Thu, 21 Mar 96 23:50:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u01Yc-00038FC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 23:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ben Norwood Subject: To: heading Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 16:04:18 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How come my copy of Pine 3.92 keeps putting To: comp.mail.pine in the sender name area of the folder list instead of my 'full name' (Ben Norwood)? _ http://www.aber.ac.uk/~bdn5 "If thou hast gathered nothing | \ |\ | bdn5@aber.ac.uk in thy youth, how canst thou |-< | \ | UWA Biology Undergrad find anything in thine age?" |_/ en | \| orwood Ecclesiasticus 25:3 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 21 23:52:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07642; Thu, 21 Mar 96 23:52:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05018; Thu, 21 Mar 96 23:50:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05012; Thu, 21 Mar 96 23:50:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u01ZR-00038TC; Thu, 21 Mar 96 23:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: 3.92 suggestion Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 22:24:30 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In pine 3.92 (IRIX 4.05) there is a handly little spinning ASCII "clock" which tells you when there are delays accessing files. I like this feature since it lets you know that pine hasn't crashed as it waits for minutes on end for an NNTP server to respond. However, I find it even more frustrating to know that the program is still running, but I still can't do anything. I would like to be able to hit a key or key combo to tell the program to stop whatever it is doing that is taking so long and let me go try something else. Ian Ollmann From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 00:33:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08338; Fri, 22 Mar 96 00:33:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22453; Fri, 22 Mar 96 00:30:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22447; Fri, 22 Mar 96 00:30:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u02C0-00038FC; Fri, 22 Mar 96 00:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sireesha@marlin.utmb.edu (Sireesha Mandava) Subject: More than one addressbook? Date: 21 Mar 1996 19:04:24 GMT Message-Id: <4is97p$9oi@atlantis.utmb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Is there a way to select an addressbook of your choice. I would like to create a central address with all the addresses and then the users will create their own address book. What I would like to do give a choice to switch between these two address books. Thanks, Sireesha Mandava University of Texas Medical Branch sireesha.mandava@utmb.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 00:33:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08397; Fri, 22 Mar 96 00:33:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05466; Fri, 22 Mar 96 00:30:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05460; Fri, 22 Mar 96 00:30:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u02C2-00038TC; Fri, 22 Mar 96 00:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mihai T. LAZARESCU" Subject: Re: POP and Pine again!!! Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 18:17:19 +0000 Message-Id: References: <4ip0ob$69n@sun4.bham.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4ip0ob$69n@sun4.bham.ac.uk> In .pinerc define under folder-collections: "Description string" {pop3_hostname.domain/pop3}/path_to_inbox Good luck! Mihai -- Mihai Teodor LAZARESCU Ph.D. student Voice: + 39 (0)11 564 5128 | Polytechnic of Turin Fax : + 39 (0)11 564 4134 | Electronics & Communic. Department email: lazarescu@polito.it | Corso Duca degli Abruzzi, 24 http://ccmserv.polito.it/mihai/ | 10129 TORINO, ITALY On 20 Mar 1996, N Ambrose wrote: > Hi, > > I posted a while back asking about how to set up Pine to get mail from a POP server, and nobody replied ;( so i thought that i'd pester you all until some nice caring person helped me out of my misery!!!!! I have read how to set it up a long while ago a nd now cannot remember where... any help most gratefully accepted! > > thanks in advance > > neil ;-) > > -- > N.Ambrose@bham.ac.uk > Department of Biomedical Science and Ethics > The Medical School > The University of Brimingham > Edgbaston > Birimingham > B15 2TT > 0121 414 5390 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 01:01:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08912; Fri, 22 Mar 96 01:01:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05776; Fri, 22 Mar 96 00:57:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hermes.dur.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05770; Fri, 22 Mar 96 00:57:01 -0800 Received: from venus by hermes.dur.ac.uk id (8.6.12/ for dur.ac.uk) with SMTP; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:53:20 GMT Received: from hercules by venus id ; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:53:18 GMT Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:52:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Barry Cornelius To: Janne Snabb Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PGP interface for Pine 3.92? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 21 Mar 1996, Janne Snabb wrote: > If I understand correctly, the new version of pine (3.92) has all > the necessary hooks to make a smooth PGP interface. Has anyone done > it already or planning to do it soon? In order to add a digital signature to my outgoing messages, I have set sending-filters to be: /usr/local/bin/pgp -fats I have also added: compose-send-offers-first-filter to the feature-list variable: this bit is optional. In order to run pgp on messages that I view (i.e., other people's messages), I have set display-filters variable to be: _LEADING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----")_ /usr/local/bin/pgp Although I am happy with the outgoing bit, I would like more control over the display-filters: (a) it's difficult to see what pgp is telling me --- it leaves the screen too quickly, (b) it would be nice to be able to toggle display-filtering on and off. Having said that, these hooks in Pine 3.92 that enable me to do digital signatures a lot easier are great. How are other people enabling Pine 3.92 for PGP? - -- Barry Cornelius Telephone: (0191 or +44 191) 374 4717 Applications Division, IT Service, IT Service Office: 374 2892 Science Site, University of Durham, Fax: 374 3741 Durham, DH1 3LE, UK E-mail: Barry.Cornelius@durham.ac.uk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMVJqcaGgSldA40uVAQEtrwP/WQcF19sUz5FF+GvTwIBwdVoljV4QiEsV CTkzPbmONl243X9E2hDOaKqDIBtDM/yyDPQZM6itC37LeSngNC+z7DSkGhcP8kT1 GYpVvpdEt1NMKQWmAOTq1XIX6Z52jrdBTAmxAMcnMGUtuYWwLmF3sTbY7oNqf6qc 3G0UnO5zvcc= =BklP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 01:13:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09298; Fri, 22 Mar 96 01:13:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22921; Fri, 22 Mar 96 01:10:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22913; Fri, 22 Mar 96 01:10:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u02pA-00038FC; Fri, 22 Mar 96 01:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= Subject: Re: Removing Attachments? Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 23:52:59 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE In-Reply-To: On Thu, 21 Mar 1996, Jason Mount wrote: > I would like to archive all my correspondance, but I often send and > recieve large binary files. I would like to be able to remove the > attachments from my messages before I archive them. Export the message. Only the text parts of the message which Pine displays will appear in the exported file. If you are using Pine's non-IMAP default, or an Elm-compatible variant of that, for your saved message folders, Export the messages to something like Mail/archive or mail/archive (replace archive with the name of your choice) If you have need for full headers, enable them with ``h'' before you Export the message. Any attachments will be noted in the exported message, but will not be there. For an IMAP configuration where you do not see your saved mail folders directly, you will have to add a folder collection which points to the local file where you have exported all the messages to your configuration. When you Export, you'll no doubt want to Append and not Overwrite. But I think you'd figure that out after your first dozen or so mistakes ;-) Barry Bouwsma Radio Praha, =C8esk=FD Rozhlas 7 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 03:40:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11958; Fri, 22 Mar 96 03:40:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08009; Fri, 22 Mar 96 03:35:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08003; Fri, 22 Mar 96 03:35:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u054Z-00038FC; Fri, 22 Mar 96 03:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu (Ashok Aiyar) Subject: Pine 3.92 and Linux problems Date: 20 Mar 1996 03:32:13 GMT Message-Id: Has anyone been able to successfully run Pine 3.92 under Linux? Pine 3.92 seems to compile fine on my computers, but I am unable to send mail - it quits with an error. The same thing happens when I try the precompiled 3.92 binaries available on ftp.cac.washington.edu The systems I have tried are: kernel-1.3.70 gcc 2.7.0 libc 5.0.9 sendmail 8.7.5 and kernel 1.2.13 gcc 2.7.2 libc 5.2.18 sendmail 8.7.3 In both cases I created new global pine configurations using (pine -conf >/usr/local/lib/pine.conf), and tried Pine with and without the default global configuration. In contrast Pine 3.91 works fine on both of these systems that I have tried it on. Any help would be much appreciated! Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. Department of Oncology aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison tel: (608) 262-6697 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 04:00:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12309; Fri, 22 Mar 96 04:00:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25298; Fri, 22 Mar 96 03:55:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25292; Fri, 22 Mar 96 03:55:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u05QP-00038FC; Fri, 22 Mar 96 03:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jason Mount Subject: Removing Attachments? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 20:31:10 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Hi, I would like to archive all my correspondance, but I often send and recieve large binary files. I would like to be able to remove the attachments from my messages before I archive them. I have searched through the FAQ's for information reguarding a way to remove attachments, but I haven't found one yet. I have been manualy deleting the encoded attachments and changing the content type in the header, but this is *very* slow. Can any one help me? Thank you, Jason ************************************ Jason Mount e-mail: jmount@beta.tricity.wsu.edu Web Page: http://www.tricity.wsu.edu/~jmount/ ************************************ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 04:00:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12317; Fri, 22 Mar 96 04:00:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08327; Fri, 22 Mar 96 03:55:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08321; Fri, 22 Mar 96 03:55:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u05QQ-00038TC; Fri, 22 Mar 96 03:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dgolden@sfsu.edu (Dave) Subject: .forward question Date: Thu, 21 Mar 96 18:28:04 GMT Message-Id: <4is75h$e5b@news.csus.edu> Can one use the .forward file to forward a message and keep it in the local inbox mailbox. Or perhaps have it filed in a different mailbox after it has been forwarded? d From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 04:03:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12452; Fri, 22 Mar 96 04:03:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25306; Fri, 22 Mar 96 03:55:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25300; Fri, 22 Mar 96 03:55:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u05QR-00038UC; Fri, 22 Mar 96 03:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andreas Muck Subject: Re: Save me from myself? Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 21:33:55 +0100 Message-Id: <3151BD33.CB1864E@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de> References: <4iknhj$fc7@newsreader.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Simon Bennett wrote: > > Lori Fox (lef@wuacn.wustl.edu) wrote: > : I have too often "replied" to a group when I really meant to > : reply to an individual. (I know that pine asks me if I want to send it > : to a different address or to all recipients and that I have to say "yes" > : if I do, but I repeatedly find that my fingers are working faster than my > : mind.) Is there any way to disable these functions so I have to manually > : *add* a cc if I want to send the document to a group? I would be > : grateful (and my many correspondents would be really grateful) if you > : could suggest a solution. Well, if you don't want to read news with pine (and I don't see why you would prefer pine to say tin...) remove the nntp server in your setup, or define an unexsistend one, or put an empty value in. Hope this helps. Andi -- Linux, the choice of a GNU generation. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 05:04:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14478; Fri, 22 Mar 96 05:04:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09537; Fri, 22 Mar 96 04:55:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09531; Fri, 22 Mar 96 04:55:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u06L3-00038FC; Fri, 22 Mar 96 04:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: carly@clark.net (Carly Rothman) Subject: Re: New-month prune response Date: 20 Mar 1996 03:34:09 GMT Message-Id: <4inubh$t32@clarknet.clark.net> References: <4infi0$hoo@henson.cc.wwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In my experience, it does not create the new folder and keeps the sent mail in the sent-mail folder and continues to add sent messages to the list. ...Carly... Evelyn Albrecht (evelyn@cc.wwu.edu) wrote: : What should happen when you answer "no" to the question "Move sent-mail : to 'sent-mail-prev-month'?" Our local documentation says that the messages : in sent-mail will be purged, but that's not my experience. I've searched : all the documentation I can find for the answer to this, with no luck. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 08:47:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20653; Fri, 22 Mar 96 08:47:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00885; Fri, 22 Mar 96 08:31:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00879; Fri, 22 Mar 96 08:31:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u09gK-00038FC; Fri, 22 Mar 96 08:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hobbs@uofport.edu (Eric A. Hobbs) Subject: Pine wishlist? Date: 21 Mar 1996 11:54:03 -0800 Message-Id: <4isc4r$iv@wally.uofport.edu> Hi, Say, how about adding something to Pine so it doesn't load your entire INBOX into memory? I think Elm doesn't do that. That's my biggest complaint with Pine is that it's a system killer if you've got a bunch of people with big INBOXes. --Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric A. Hobbs (hobbs@uofport.edu) - -- ---=- -===-====(-: UNIX System Manager, University of Portland :-o===-==--=--- -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 09:21:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23411; Fri, 22 Mar 96 09:21:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16234; Fri, 22 Mar 96 09:11:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16228; Fri, 22 Mar 96 09:11:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0AJ3-00038FC; Fri, 22 Mar 96 09:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "MAS Inc." Subject: Re: SCO Binaries for 3.92 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:57:13 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3152097B.5E88@teleport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3152097B.5E88@teleport.com> Sorry for the multiple posts. Netscape's newsreader is a little buggy. Pine is much better! ---MAS Inc. email: masi@teleport.com 15050 SW Koll Parkway, Suite C web: http://www.teleport.com/~masi Beaverton, OR 97006 phone: (503) 641-6200 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 09:22:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23501; Fri, 22 Mar 96 09:22:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03170; Fri, 22 Mar 96 09:16:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03164; Fri, 22 Mar 96 09:16:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0APx-00038FC; Fri, 22 Mar 96 09:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kenjo@santafe.wv.tek.com (Kenneth M Johnson) Subject: what are mtest and pilot? Date: 22 Mar 1996 17:04:45 GMT Message-Id: <4iumjd$qdb@gazette.wv.tek.com> I want to know what all the components of pine are. pine - duh pico - pine editor imapd - for remote newsgroup reading mtest - ??? pilot - ??? So what are mtest and pilot? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 09:38:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24214; Fri, 22 Mar 96 09:38:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03398; Fri, 22 Mar 96 09:20:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hermes.cti.gr by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03380; Fri, 22 Mar 96 09:20:15 -0800 Received: from localhost (dimakop@localhost) by hermes.cti.gr (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA12325; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 19:17:26 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: hermes.cti.gr: dimakop owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 19:17:25 +0200 (EET) From: Dimakopoulos Panagiotis To: David L Miller Cc: Dimakopoulos Panagiotis , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine is a MIME news reader? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 19 Mar 1996, David L Miller wrote: > > On Thu, 7 Mar 1996, Dimakopoulos Panagiotis wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I am trying to read news groups which have 8-bit chars inside > > (greek characters). However the news articles arrive in 8-bit encoding > > and not in MIME. With a configuration with some tools that I have set > > I have managed to send MIME messages to news groups but when I try to > > read them with pine then I see the original MIME article unencoded. > > > > So my question is if pine as a news reader can post and read > > MIME UseNet news articles. > > > > Pine, as distributed by UW, does support MIME news reading and > posting. However, I noticed that you are running a modified version > of Pine, which may have different behavior. Check with the author of > whatever patches you are using for details. > > BTW, the current Pine 3.92 release has a feature that allows you to > post 8-bit text, thus avoiding Quoted-Printable encoding in newsgroups > that don't like MIME..... > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > I have to insist on my original posting even with the new pine 3.92. When I do news posting either the [ ] enable-8bit-nntp-posting is set or not there is the strange situation where the news article arrives on the nntp server with the Subject encoded in MIME (rfc1522) and the body in 8bit text. Of course I have checked that the data arrives in this form by vi'ing the file which keeps the article on the nntp server where the news for out Net is kept. Could you please tell me if I am missing something? Thank you, ------------------------------------------------------ | Panos Dimakopoulos dimakop@cti.gr | | COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY INSTITUTE | | P.O. Box 1122 | | 261 10 Patras, Greece | | Tel (+30) 61 992061, 994317 Fax (+30) 61 993973 | ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 09:38:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24251; Fri, 22 Mar 96 09:38:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16826; Fri, 22 Mar 96 09:26:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu2.psi.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16816; Fri, 22 Mar 96 09:26:53 -0800 Received: by uu2.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA04869 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 96 12:18:10 -0500 Received: by progressive.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA14561; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:59:17 -0800 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:59:16 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Howard X-Sender: todd@Ra To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine for SCO UNIX? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-1903590565-827513956=:14074" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-1903590565-827513956=:14074 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there or will there be a release of Pine for SCO UNIX? Versions 3.2, or 4.2 or V5? Thanks in advance, Todd Howard ``` Phone: 206/820-0360 todd@progressive.com (0-0) Fax: 206/820-2637 ---------------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo------------------------------ Progressive Computer Systems, Inc. Home of SeeMore :-) ---559023410-1903590565-827513956=:14074-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 11:43:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01562; Fri, 22 Mar 96 11:43:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20256; Fri, 22 Mar 96 11:36:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20250; Fri, 22 Mar 96 11:36:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0CdH-00038FC; Fri, 22 Mar 96 11:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pd@erredfs1.er.att.com (Paul E. Davidson) Subject: Pop[123] Date: 21 Mar 1996 21:10:38 GMT Message-Id: <4isgke$rs@nntpa.cb.att.com> Does anyone know where I can get a POP[23] server for SUN OS 4.? Help -- ******************************************************************************** Paul .---- - - _ _ _ _ _ . . ( ,----- - - ______________________ ___________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 11:46:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01884; Fri, 22 Mar 96 11:46:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07476; Fri, 22 Mar 96 11:41:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07470; Fri, 22 Mar 96 11:41:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0Cde-00038TC; Fri, 22 Mar 96 11:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mihai T. LAZARESCU" Subject: Re: POP and Pine again!!! (errata) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 21:36:58 +0000 Message-Id: References: <4ip0ob$69n@sun4.bham.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 21 Mar 1996, Mihai T. LAZARESCU wrote: > In .pinerc define under folder-collections: > > "Description string" {pop3_hostname.domain/pop3}/path_to_inbox > > Good luck! > > Mihai I apologize for the mistake. The above should read: /|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/| In .pinerc define under incoming-folders: "Description string" {pop3_hostname.domain/pop3} /|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/|/| Hope it helps. It works for me. Mihai -- Mihai Teodor LAZARESCU Ph.D. student Voice: + 39 (0)11 564 5128 | Polytechnic of Turin Fax : + 39 (0)11 564 4134 | Electronics & Communic. Department email: lazarescu@polito.it | Corso Duca degli Abruzzi, 24 http://ccmserv.polito.it/mihai/ | 10129 TORINO, ITALY From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 11:55:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02253; Fri, 22 Mar 96 11:55:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20592; Fri, 22 Mar 96 11:46:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20586; Fri, 22 Mar 96 11:46:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0ClJ-00038FC; Fri, 22 Mar 96 11:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Pine wishlist? In-Reply-To: hobbs@uofport.edu's message of 21 Mar 1996 11: 54:03 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4isc4r$iv@wally.uofport.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 18:00:32 GMT In article <4isc4r$iv@wally.uofport.edu> hobbs@uofport.edu (Eric A. Hobbs) writes: Say, how about adding something to Pine so it doesn't load your entire INBOX into memory? If you switch to Tenex format by touching a mail.txt file in your home directory, your wish will be granted. Regards, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4824 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 12:53:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04602; Fri, 22 Mar 96 12:53:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08939; Fri, 22 Mar 96 12:41:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08933; Fri, 22 Mar 96 12:41:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0Ddm-00038FC; Fri, 22 Mar 96 12:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ctorlins@crl.com (Christoph Torlinsky) Subject: Solaris 2.5 and pine3.92 Date: 20 Mar 1996 21:50:13 -0800 Message-Id: <4iqqml$jpg@crl.crl.com> Hello, I have the following question. I compiled pine 3.92 on solairs 25. with gcc.it works fine, but when I start up I get the following message : [Incomplete maildomain "rrose".] Return address in mail you send may be incorrect what gives...what do I need to cure this?> I am using snemdial.mx no uucp mail From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 13:45:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07391; Fri, 22 Mar 96 13:45:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10606; Fri, 22 Mar 96 13:37:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10600; Fri, 22 Mar 96 13:37:27 -0800 Received: (sfl7fl@localhost) by scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (8.6.11/8.6.5) id QAA09096; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 16:29:22 -0500 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 16:29:21 -0500 (EST) From: john neuman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 14:23:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09398; Fri, 22 Mar 96 14:23:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24697; Fri, 22 Mar 96 14:17:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24691; Fri, 22 Mar 96 14:17:42 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24823; Fri, 22 Mar 96 14:16:26 -0800 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 14:16:24 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Ben Norwood Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: To: heading In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 21 Mar 1996, Ben Norwood wrote: > > How come my copy of Pine 3.92 keeps putting To: comp.mail.pine in the > sender name area of the folder list instead of my 'full name' (Ben > Norwood)? > Since the message is From: you, Pine assumes (by default) that the more useful information is who you sent it To:. You can change this in Pine 3.92 by setting the index-format in the Setup/Config screen. Read the Help text carefully before changing this though!!! |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 14:34:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10256; Fri, 22 Mar 96 14:34:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12018; Fri, 22 Mar 96 14:27:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12012; Fri, 22 Mar 96 14:27:58 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25171; Fri, 22 Mar 96 14:27:56 -0800 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 14:27:54 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: "Paul E. Davidson" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pop[123] In-Reply-To: <4isgke$rs@nntpa.cb.att.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 21 Mar 1996, Paul E. Davidson wrote: > > Does anyone know where I can get a POP[23] server > for SUN OS 4.? > There are POP2 and POP3 servers included in the UW IMAP toolkit, ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.tar.Z |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 14:35:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10419; Fri, 22 Mar 96 14:35:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12166; Fri, 22 Mar 96 14:31:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12160; Fri, 22 Mar 96 14:31:41 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25317; Fri, 22 Mar 96 14:30:55 -0800 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 14:30:53 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Ian Russell Ollmann Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: 3.92 suggestion In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 21 Mar 1996, Ian Russell Ollmann wrote: > > In pine 3.92 (IRIX 4.05) there is a handly little spinning ASCII "clock" > which tells you when there are delays accessing files. I like this feature > since it lets you know that pine hasn't crashed as it waits for minutes on > end for an NNTP server to respond. However, I find it even more > frustrating to know that the program is still running, but I still can't > do anything. I would like to be able to hit a key or key combo to tell the > program to stop whatever it is doing that is taking so long and let me go > try something else. > There are some places where we haven't found a feasible and/or portable way to interrupt whatever Pine is working on. But in many places, you can press ^C to interrupt a long process... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 14:46:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11164; Fri, 22 Mar 96 14:46:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25391; Fri, 22 Mar 96 14:37:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25385; Fri, 22 Mar 96 14:37:39 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25522; Fri, 22 Mar 96 14:37:30 -0800 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 14:37:28 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Kenneth M Johnson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: what are mtest and pilot? In-Reply-To: <4iumjd$qdb@gazette.wv.tek.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 22 Mar 1996, Kenneth M Johnson wrote: > > I want to know what all the components of pine are. > > > pine - duh > pico - pine editor > imapd - for remote newsgroup reading Actually, imapd is an IMAP server for remote folder access. Configure this if you want to access folders from another machine. > mtest - ??? This is basically a little diagnostic program for IMAP. It doesn't have much value for users... > pilot - ??? PIne's Lister Of Things. It is basically the file browser from pine/pico stripped out for use as a file browser. This is Pilot's first public release, so let us know what you think! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 14:55:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11683; Fri, 22 Mar 96 14:55:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12789; Fri, 22 Mar 96 14:50:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pine.nasc.mass.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12783; Fri, 22 Mar 96 14:49:59 -0800 Received: by nasc.mass.edu (8.6.10/SMI-4.1) id WAA13190; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 22:51:07 GMT Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 17:51:07 -0500 (EST) From: Ellen Downey To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe pine *********************** Ellen K. Downey 413-662-5555 tel Dir. Administrative Services 413-662-5010 fax North Adams State College EDowney@NASC.Mass.edu North Adams MA 01247 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 15:35:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14277; Fri, 22 Mar 96 15:35:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27080; Fri, 22 Mar 96 15:32:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27074; Fri, 22 Mar 96 15:32:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0GG6-00038FC; Fri, 22 Mar 96 15:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bmyki Subject: tagging files in pine for deletion/exporting Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 21:25:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII can someone please give me explicit instructions on tagging files in a newsgroup index for another action [i.e. deleting, exporting, etc] thanks bmyki From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 20:58:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23372; Fri, 22 Mar 96 20:58:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02928; Fri, 22 Mar 96 20:53:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from homer27.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02922; Fri, 22 Mar 96 20:53:40 -0800 Received: from localhost by homer27.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA82763; Fri, 22 Mar 96 20:53:39 -0800 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 20:53:39 -0800 (PST) From: "K. Sotol" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug Report Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Pine People, I do believe there's something wrong with my Pine account. For some reason I can't get into my inbox folder. Instead of opening the folder, I get this message: [[closed] IMAP connection broken (server response)] Needless to say, this is a less than satisfactory response. Please tell me what's wrong. Please tell me how to fix it. Waiting anxiously for your response, The remains of ksotol From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 22:26:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24726; Fri, 22 Mar 96 22:26:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21011; Fri, 22 Mar 96 22:23:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21005; Fri, 22 Mar 96 22:23:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0MhW-00038FC; Fri, 22 Mar 96 22:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ben Norwood Subject: Re: Sending copy to yourself? Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:52:07 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 15 Mar 1996, Carl Kim wrote: > >Hello! > >I was wondering how I could configure Pine to automagically send me a copy >of any message that I had composed. I looked into the config menu but could >not find out how. > >Thanks! > You can save outgoing messages into a folder: look in config and you should see this: default-fcc = Press A, then type in sent-mail Press RETURN and all outgoing mail should be saved to a folder called sent-mail. OK? _ http://www.aber.ac.uk/~bdn5 "If thou hast gathered nothing | \ |\ | bdn5@aber.ac.uk in thy youth, how canst thou |-< | \ | UWA Biology Undergrad find anything in thine age?" |_/ en | \| orwood Ecclesiasticus 25:3 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 22 22:27:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24752; Fri, 22 Mar 96 22:27:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04153; Fri, 22 Mar 96 22:23:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04147; Fri, 22 Mar 96 22:23:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0MhW-00038TC; Fri, 22 Mar 96 22:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ben Norwood Subject: Control characters in messages Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 15:30:17 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I don't know if this occurs in version 3.92 (which I've just obtained), but when using version 3.91 occasionally on send it would set the content-transfer-encoding to QUOTED PRINTABLE which meant that on other newsreaders some characters eg. the UK pound sign and carriage returns appears as =03 and =20 respectively. Does this happen in version 3.92? If so, is there any way of setting the content-transfer-encoding to 7bit? _ http://www.aber.ac.uk/~bdn5 "If thou hast gathered nothing | \ |\ | bdn5@aber.ac.uk in thy youth, how canst thou |-< | \ | UWA Biology Undergrad find anything in thine age?" |_/ en | \| orwood Ecclesiasticus 25:3 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 01:03:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27234; Sat, 23 Mar 96 01:03:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22849; Sat, 23 Mar 96 01:01:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rps.nwsc.k12.ar.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22843; Sat, 23 Mar 96 01:01:51 -0800 Received: (from mcol@localhost) by rps.nwsc.k12.ar.us (8.6.12/8.6.9) id DAA11529; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 03:05:49 -0600 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 03:05:47 -0600 (CST) From: "Marian S. Colclasure" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: subscribe In-Reply-To: <199603230800.CAA11455@rps.nwsc.k12.ar.us> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII subscribe pine-info@cac.washington.edu gburnore@databasix.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 02:40:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29218; Sat, 23 Mar 96 02:40:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24009; Sat, 23 Mar 96 02:38:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24003; Sat, 23 Mar 96 02:38:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0Qhc-00038FC; Sat, 23 Mar 96 02:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine wishlist? Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 21:06:21 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4isc4r$iv@wally.uofport.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4isc4r$iv@wally.uofport.edu> On 21 Mar 1996, Eric A. Hobbs wrote: > Say, how about adding something to Pine so it doesn't load your entire > INBOX into memory? I think Elm doesn't do that. That's my biggest complaint > with Pine is that it's a system killer if you've got a bunch of people > with big INBOXes. Please read the Pine Technical Notes, in which it discusses different mailbox formats and their implications on memory. It is not possible to update in place a folder in standard Unix mbox format or MMDF format due to the way that status information is written in these formats. In certain other formats (mtx, tenex, mh) supported by Pine, it is possible. If Pine can not update in place, there are two implementation choices: 1) use a scratch file 2) keep an in-memory snapshot of the entire folder At the time the Unix mbox format code was written, our users tended to be on the very brink of their disk quotas. They could not afford to have a scratch file. On the other hand, the machines in question had memory to spare. The in-memory snapshot can be very fast; in particular, text searches (;T command) are instantaneous. On our systems, we have been moving towards tenex format on black-box IMAP servers and away from mbox format. Tenex (and mtx) format is memory-cheap and reasonably fast (with the exception of ;T searches). We *are* considering offering support for the scratch file technique in a future version of Pine, because there are systems such as yours where disk is cheap and memory is dear. I can't give any timeline yet; we tend to give higher priority to fixing bugs and missing functionality, and less towards changing working code that doesn't affect us or our users. But I can tell you that it is seriously on our list now. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 02:55:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29415; Sat, 23 Mar 96 02:55:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07197; Sat, 23 Mar 96 02:53:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07191; Sat, 23 Mar 96 02:53:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0QuO-00038FC; Sat, 23 Mar 96 02:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jessica Perry Hekman Subject: pine sans beep? Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 15:58:39 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any way to convince pine to *not* beep at me when I get new mail? Thanks for any help -- Jessica From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 03:06:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29695; Sat, 23 Mar 96 03:06:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24243; Sat, 23 Mar 96 03:03:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24237; Sat, 23 Mar 96 03:03:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0R4L-00038FC; Sat, 23 Mar 96 03:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: Pine and PC-Pine 3.92 now available Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 22:20:55 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hooray!! Ian From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 05:33:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03308; Sat, 23 Mar 96 05:33:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09227; Sat, 23 Mar 96 05:31:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09221; Sat, 23 Mar 96 05:31:12 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA06059 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:30:51 +0100 Received: from localhost (bor@localhost) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA24382; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:30:36 +0300 (MOW) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:30:34 +0300 (MOW) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsmx1 Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Pine Developers Cc: Pine mailing list Subject: Re: Bug (ID DJ577): Fcc is computed incorrectly if using mail-box format of address In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-851401618-827587834=:24367" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-851401618-827587834=:24367 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, all! Here is the reason for the problem. The problem description once more: if I enter the To: address in mbox format (foo@bar.com), and fcc-name-rule rule is set to by-recipient, then fcc is not correctly set; it retains the default-fcc value. If the same address is entered in route-addr form (), the fcc is correctly set to "foo". Reason: after user entered the To: address, the address is passed through build_address () function for possible rewriting/expansion. It is done in call_builder () function in pico/composer.c The problem was, if the address was not changed, call_builder didn't try to compute new fcc. It is opposed to Pine 3.91, where fcc was ALWAYS computed unconditionally. Because build_address changes route-addr to mbox ( -> foo@bar.com) the fcc was computed in this case; mbox format was not changed at all. I don't know, why the behavior was changed. If it is only for optimization, it is a clear bug. Probably, there are some othe reasons - I don't know. I attach small patch to pico/composer.c; it just reverts to Pine 3.91 scheme to uncoditionally recompute fcc. I tried modified Pine and it seems to work so far ;-) The original behaviour was rather frustrating to me. greetings ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---559023410-851401618-827587834=:24367 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="composer.c.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Diff for pico/composer.c for Fcc problem LS0tIGNvbXBvc2VyLmMub3JnCVNhdCBNYXIgMjMgMTY6MDY6MDggMTk5Ng0K KysrIGNvbXBvc2VyLmMJU2F0IE1hciAyMyAxNjowNzozMyAxOTk2DQpAQCAt MjcwOCw2ICsyNzA4LDcgQEANCiAJICAgIGxpbmUgPSBlbnRyeS0+aGRfdGV4 dDsNCiAJICAgIEluaXRFbnRyeVRleHQocywgZW50cnkpOwkJLyogYXJyYW5n ZSBuZXcgb25lICovDQogCSAgICB6b3RlbnRyeShsaW5lKTsgCQkJLyogYmxh c3Qgb2xkIGxpc3QgbydlbnRyaWVzICovDQorICAgICAgICB9DQoNCiAJICAg IC8qIG9ubHkgbG9vayBhdCB0aGlzIGlmIHNidWYgd2FzIGNoYW5nZWQgKi8N CiAJICAgIGlmKGhlYWRhcmcpew0KQEAgLTI3MjksNyArMjczMCw5IEBADQog CQkgICAgfQ0KIAkJfQ0KIAkgICAgfQ0KKy8qDQogCX0NCisqLw0KDQogICAg ICAgICByZXR2YWwgPSAxOw0KICAgICB9DQo= ---559023410-851401618-827587834=:24367-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 05:47:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03510; Sat, 23 Mar 96 05:47:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26125; Sat, 23 Mar 96 05:45:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26119; Sat, 23 Mar 96 05:45:42 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA06317 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:45:21 +0100 Received: from localhost (bor@localhost) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA24428; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:45:09 +0300 (MOW) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:45:07 +0300 (MOW) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsmx1 Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Pine Developers , Pine mailing list Subject: Problem when compiling Pine 3.92 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all! I have seen strange problem when compiling Pine 3.92. There is a structure "headerentry" defined in pico/pico.h. It is used in two places; in pine/addrbook.c and pine/send.c. In both cases a static array of structure headerentry is defined and initialized. The problem was, two elements were omitted when intializing the structure. I recall, that some compilers allow it and just silently zap remain with zeroes; my compiler barks :-( I include the structure definition and example of intializing: =============== structure form pico/pico.h ================== struct headerentry { char *prompt; char *name; #if defined(DOS) || defined(HELPFILE) short help; #else char **help; #endif int prlen; int maxlen; char **realaddr; int (*builder)(); /* Function to verify/canonicalize val */ struct headerentry *affected_entry, *next_affected; /* entry builder's 4th arg affects */ char *(*selector)(); /* Browser for possible values */ char *key_label; /* Key label for key to call browser */ unsigned display_it:1; /* field is to be displayed by default */ unsigned break_on_comma:1; /* Field breaks on commas */ unsigned is_attach:1; /* Special case field for attachments */ unsigned rich_header:1; /* Field is part of rich header */ unsigned only_file_chars:1; /* Field is a file name */ unsigned single_space:1; /* Crush multiple spaces into one */ unsigned sticky:1; /* Can't change this via affected_entry*/ unsigned dirty:1; /* We've changed this entry */ unsigned start_here:1; /* begin composer on first on lit */ #ifdef KS_OSDATAVAR KS_OSDATAVAR /* Port-Specific keymenu data */ #endif struct hdr_line *hd_text; }; ================== use of it in pine/send.c ===================== /* this is for initializing the fixed header elements in pine_send() */ /* prompt::name::help::prlen::maxlen::realaddr:: builder::affected_entry::next_affected::selector::key_label:: display_it::break_on_comma::is_attach::rich_header::only_file_chars:: single_space::sticky::hd_text */ static struct headerentry he_template[]={ {"From : ", "From", h_composer_from, 10, 0, NULL, build_address, NULL, NULL, addr_book_compose, "To AddrBk", 0, 1, 0, 1, 0, 1, 0, KS_TOADDRBOOK}, {"Reply-To: ", "Reply To", h_composer_reply_to, 10, 0, NULL, build_address, NULL, NULL, addr_book_compose, "To AddrBk", 0, 1, 0, 1, 0, 1, 0, KS_TOADDRBOOK}, ... skipped ... ========================================================= As you see, two elements (dirty and start_here) are not initializes; moreover, they are not even mentioned in comments. Also, it looks strange with KS_OSDATAVAR and hdr_line fields; probably, they also should be intialized conditionally. Have anybody also seen it? Probably, I got some wrong distribution - I picked it up from mirror site in Germany, not form ftp.cac.washington.edu? thanks in advance ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 05:56:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03608; Sat, 23 Mar 96 05:56:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26206; Sat, 23 Mar 96 05:55:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26200; Sat, 23 Mar 96 05:55:22 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA06402 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:55:01 +0100 Received: from localhost (bor@localhost) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA24485 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:54:58 +0300 (MOW) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:54:57 +0300 (MOW) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsmx1 Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Pine mailing list Subject: Tool to add message to Tenex folder? (was: Re: Pine wishlist?) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 21 Mar 1996, Mark Crispin wrote: > > On our systems, we have been moving towards tenex format on black-box IMAP > servers and away from mbox format. Tenex (and mtx) format is memory-cheap > and reasonably fast (with the exception of ;T searches). > The problem with Tenex is, it is not supported by most MTAs. I checked your imap-utils, and there is a implementation for Tenex local mailer, but it replaces COMPLETELY the normal one. The implications are: system mbox should be in Tenex format; I cannot use any filter such as procmail/ELM filter. Is there any simple tool available, which just takes message and appends it to Tenex folder in correct format? Such one, as could be used with procmail. Many people are using procmail anyway; it is very simple to pipe message to additional program; procmail also cares about proper locking, so such program could be made really very simple. It would provide for system-wide mbox, while allowing to use Tenex for personal folders (which for me take up most of the traffic anyway). thanks in advance ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 06:21:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03874; Sat, 23 Mar 96 06:21:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09682; Sat, 23 Mar 96 06:19:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09676; Sat, 23 Mar 96 06:19:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0U96-00038TC; Sat, 23 Mar 96 06:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Using MH folders - how? Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 00:01:30 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4i40d7$2ms@kuikka.inet.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine supports MH folders and has done so for some time. The MH inbox is accessed as #mhinbox. Other folders are accessed as #mh/foo (for ~/Mail/foo), etc. On Thu, 21 Mar 1996, Ben Norwood wrote: > On Sun, 17 Mar 1996, Simon Bennett wrote: > > >: It works except that I can't get pine to read ~/Mail/inbox (MH's "inbox") > > > >Unless PINE's got a new feature I don't know about, it can't read the MH style > >messages (which are stored in separate files) - you can however convert MH > >"folders" into mail style files which can be read by pine/elm/mailx etc.. The > >easiest way is to use packmbox.sh which comes in the MH 6.8 ditribution. > > > >If you end up hating PINE you can always go back to MH by re inc'ing the PINE > >files back into MH "folders". > > > > At UWA (Uni of Wales Aberystwyth) the 'supported mail programs' use mh, > but until demand is sufficient and the Pine development team include mh > support, Pine users here are stuck with having to use pine's own folder > system. No doubt it will be the same with your system. > > > _ http://www.aber.ac.uk/~bdn5 "If thou hast gathered nothing > | \ |\ | bdn5@aber.ac.uk in thy youth, how canst thou > |-< | \ | UWA Biology Undergrad find anything in thine age?" > |_/ en | \| orwood Ecclesiasticus 25:3 > > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 06:22:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03912; Sat, 23 Mar 96 06:22:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26445; Sat, 23 Mar 96 06:19:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26439; Sat, 23 Mar 96 06:19:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0U8E-00038FC; Sat, 23 Mar 96 06:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "D. Jones" Subject: Making email list?!? Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 23:27:53 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can anyone tell me how to make an email list from my address book without have to manually place in each name. Is there a way to set a variable that holds on the addresses currently in the address book? Please help. This is truly becoming a pain in the butt. D- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 06:32:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04024; Sat, 23 Mar 96 06:32:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26550; Sat, 23 Mar 96 06:30:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-11.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26542; Sat, 23 Mar 96 06:30:18 -0800 Received: from localhost by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 23 Mar 96 22:29:40 +0800 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 22:29:39 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Jessica Perry Hekman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine sans beep? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 22 Mar 1996, Jessica Perry Hekman wrote: > Is there any way to convince pine to *not* beep at me when I get new mail? > Get pine3.92, it has: [ ] quell-status-message-beeping or cut the wires on your PC's speaker. :-) :-) Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 06:43:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04238; Sat, 23 Mar 96 06:43:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09853; Sat, 23 Mar 96 06:35:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [199.0.71.15] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09847; Sat, 23 Mar 96 06:35:34 -0800 Received: from joannes.rounder.com (joannes.rounder.com [199.0.71.105]) by rounder.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA14311; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 09:38:04 -0500 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 09:23:14 -0500 () From: "Jo Anne T. Spreen" Reply-To: "Jo Anne T. Spreen" To: Jessica Perry Hekman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine sans beep? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Sender: joannes@rounder.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 22 Mar 1996, Jessica Perry Hekman wrote: > Is there any way to convince pine to *not* beep at me when I get new mail? > > Thanks for any help -- > > Jessica > > If you go to Setup/Config from the main menu, there is a feature setting... quell-status-message-beeping If you set this then you won't get the beep, but the status messages will still appear... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 06:57:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04480; Sat, 23 Mar 96 06:57:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10061; Sat, 23 Mar 96 06:55:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ccn.cs.dal.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10055; Sat, 23 Mar 96 06:55:13 -0800 Received: by ccn.cs.dal.ca id <11571(1)>; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 10:55:14 -0400 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 10:55:12 -0400 From: "Marsha C. Holmes" To: Mark Crispin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using MH folders - how? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 22 Mar 1996, Mark Crispin wrote: > Pine supports MH folders and has done so for some time. Could someone tell me what "MH" stands for (other than Marsha Holmes!!) Thanks! Marsha *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Marsha C. Holmes |\ __ /.| (`\ ac573@ccn.cs.dal.ca _ .| o o |_ ) ) ----------------------(((---(((------------- Homepage: http://www.ccn.cs.dal.ca/~ac573/Profile.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Member of HTML Writers Guild - http://www.synet.net/hwg/hwg-main.html *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 09:21:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06524; Sat, 23 Mar 96 09:21:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11798; Sat, 23 Mar 96 09:17:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alf.uccs.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11792; Sat, 23 Mar 96 09:17:03 -0800 Received: (from jtautges@localhost) by alf.uccs.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA04452; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 10:17:30 -0700 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 10:17:28 -0700 (MST) From: EXCALIBUR To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Kill Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there anyway to kill or block incoming mail from a specific address? Somehow my address has been caught in an endless loop from the same address and I am getting thousands od long letters. I am un able to contact the source address of these letters. So can I simply block mail from that address somehow? Thanks J Tautges From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 10:22:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07759; Sat, 23 Mar 96 10:22:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29253; Sat, 23 Mar 96 10:19:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29247; Sat, 23 Mar 96 10:19:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0XrK-00038FC; Sat, 23 Mar 96 10:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Shay Cohen Subject: signature Date: 23 Mar 1996 17:53:13 GMT Message-Id: <4j1dq9$brj@post.tau.ac.il> Hi everybody! I got an annoying problem with pine.. when I reply to a message, it places my signature BEFORE the quoted message, instead of in the end of it. can it be fixed? Please e-mail me.. Shay Cohen, shay@aquanet.co.il From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 13:20:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10614; Sat, 23 Mar 96 13:20:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14903; Sat, 23 Mar 96 13:15:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14897; Sat, 23 Mar 96 13:15:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0ae5-00038FC; Sat, 23 Mar 96 13:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: temeemi Subject: encrypting mail Date: 22 Mar 1996 22:43:41 GMT Message-Id: <4ivaet$6o9@voyager.iii.org.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How can I encrypt my mail in Pine? I've heard of the "crypt" command, but I don't know how to use it with Pine. Please email me your suggestions. Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 13:43:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10910; Sat, 23 Mar 96 13:43:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01771; Sat, 23 Mar 96 13:40:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01765; Sat, 23 Mar 96 13:40:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0b2T-00038TC; Sat, 23 Mar 96 13:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roland@spinnaker.rhein.de (Roland Rosenfeld) Subject: PGP filter for pine 3.92 Date: 21 Mar 1996 19:55:51 +0100 Message-Id: <4is8nn$4h8@spinnaker.rhein.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi! I'm looking for some _good_ filters for using PGP in pine 3.92. At the moment I use this first attempt, but this isn't optimal: ------------------- pgpencrypt ----------------------------- #!/bin/sh # # 21.03.96 Roland Rosenfeld # pgp -feast $* ------------------- pgpencrypt ----------------------------- ------------------- pgpsign -------------------------------- #!/bin/sh # # 21.03.96 Roland Rosenfeld # pgp -fast ------------------- pgpsign -------------------------------- ------------------- pgpdecode ------------------------------ #!/bin/sh # # 21.03.96 Roland Rosenfeld # trap "rm -f /tmp/pgpdecode.???.$$; exit" 0 1 2 15 (pgp -f > /tmp/pgpdecode.txt.$$) 2>&1 | tee /tmp/pgpdecode.pgp.$$ 1>&2 sed -e 's/^/| /' /tmp/pgpdecode.pgp.$$ echo -e "\n" cat /tmp/pgpdecode.txt.$$ ------------------- pgpdecode ------------------------------ These scripts are configured in .pinerc as: ------------------- .pinerc -------------------------------- # This variable takes a list of programs that message text is piped into # after MIME decoding, prior to display. display-filters="-----BEGIN PGP" /home/roland/bin/pgpdecode # This defines a program that message text is piped into before MIME # encoding, prior to sending sending-filters=/home/roland/bin/pgpsign, /home/roland/bin/pgpencrypt _RECIPIENTS_ ------------------- .pinerc -------------------------------- Or the same in the setup part of pine. Any better ideas? Ciao Roland -- * Internet: roland@spinnaker.rhein.de * Fido: 2:2450/30.1 * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 16:04:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12784; Sat, 23 Mar 96 16:04:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16728; Sat, 23 Mar 96 16:00:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16722; Sat, 23 Mar 96 16:00:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0dCy-00038FC; Sat, 23 Mar 96 15:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chester Paul S'groi Subject: Re: Transferring address books to new provider Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:53:07 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4j19iq$ph4@shellx.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4j19iq$ph4@shellx.best.com> On 23 Mar 1996, Meyer Boswell Books Inc. wrote: > I am transferring my Internet account from one service provider (Netcom) > to another (Best). Is there a way to save and transfer over my long and > carefully constructed address book at Netcom, so I don't have to start > all over at Best? Well, one way that I have done just this on both UNIX and VMS-based operating systems was to use the FTP (File Transfer Protocal) to transfer the .addressbook file from the old account to one's new account. If your new or old account does not allow direct Internet access, try downloading your .addressbook file from your old account to a floppy disk and uploading it to your new account. > Also, I have begun a new address book at Best. Is there anyway to append > the Netcom address book to it, rather than subbing in the Netcom for the > Best? I would rather not lose the new one at Best if I don't have to. > Joe Luttrell This depends a lot upon the operating system of your new account. If you were on a UNIX system, rename your new .addressbook file to something like .addressbook_new, transfer/upload your old .addressbook from your old account and cat the two files together as .addressbook Or, you could simply invoke the pico editor on addressbook_new, go to the very bottom of the file by pressing the ^ (Control) and V keys at the same time and when you are at the bottom, press ^R and append .addressbook to the end. Then, press ^O and save the file as .addressbook Of course, please be very mindful when doing this so as not to wipe everything out. Also, please note that there may be other ways of doing what you want depending upon your specifc OS (Operating System) and computer experience. :) NAME: Chester Paul S'groi (Pax Christi) OCCUPATION: Student of Religious Studies & Academic Computing Support Staff E-MAIL: cps1@axe.humboldt.edu, cps1@sorrel.humboldt.edu, HOME PAGE: http://www.humboldt.edu/~cps1, nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~csgroi ADDRESS: Post Office Box 4346 - Arcata, CA 95518-4346 U.S.A. WORK PHONE: (707) 826 - 4484 HOME PHONE: (707) 822 - 1234 SAYING: "Curiosity may have killed the cat but a cat has nine lives!" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 17:08:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13839; Sat, 23 Mar 96 17:08:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04037; Sat, 23 Mar 96 17:05:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04031; Sat, 23 Mar 96 17:05:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0eBt-00038FC; Sat, 23 Mar 96 17:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Kill Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 19:14:00 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 23 Mar 1996, EXCALIBUR wrote: > Is there anyway to kill or block incoming mail from a specific address? > Somehow my address has been caught in an endless loop from the same > address and I am getting thousands od long letters. I am un able to > contact the source address of these letters. So can I simply block mail > from that address somehow? Pine as such has no killfile or message blocking capability (unless it's in the brand-new version 3.92, which I don't have yet). You have to use some program which preprocesses the mail before Pine gets hold of it. On Unix systems, possibly the two most commonly used programs are procmail and filter. (If you are on Unix and have a Web browser, you can start from my home page and thread your way into Nancy McGough's pages on mail filtering.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 17:35:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14417; Sat, 23 Mar 96 17:35:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17808; Sat, 23 Mar 96 17:30:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17802; Sat, 23 Mar 96 17:30:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0ec4-00038FC; Sat, 23 Mar 96 17:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sholstea@gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca (Steve Holstead) Subject: Missing Makefile in 3.92 Date: 20 Mar 1996 23:35:56 GMT Message-Id: <4iq4os$cq6@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> I have just attempted to *build* an a32 flavor of pine 3.92. The build process takes me into the imap/ANSI/c-client directory and then issues a make a32 The problem is that there is no makefile. Therefore that target nor any other target will be made. This means that pine will not get *made* either because of c-client dependencies. Doe anyone know where I might get this makefile? -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Holstead University of Alberta Steve.Holstead@ualberta.ca Computer and Network Services Tel.: (403) 492-4854 System Software Group Fax.: (403) 492-1729 #154 General Services Building Edmonton, Alberta T6G-2H1 C A N A D A From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 18:59:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15768; Sat, 23 Mar 96 18:59:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05411; Sat, 23 Mar 96 18:56:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05405; Sat, 23 Mar 96 18:56:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0fvp-00038FC; Sat, 23 Mar 96 18:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kbass@radix.net (Ken Bass) Subject: Re: Q: PGP support in Pine Date: 24 Mar 1996 01:37:40 GMT Message-Id: References: <4j0dl5$63k@tbone.biol.sc.edu> On 23 Mar 1996 03:44:21 -0500, Dean Pentcheff wrote: : kravietz@pipeta.chemia.pk.edu.pl (Pawel Krawczyk) writes: : >Will ever Pine have support for PGP? I mean internal support, not : >patches like mkpgp. : : The most recently released version (3.92) has an excellent set of hooks : for PGP support I have adapted the following series of scripts to do : the job. They were posted here a couple of days ago (the original : author's name and address is in the scripts). They make it very, very : painless to use PGP: : : pgp -fast Hi, I added the above line to my setup but get the following: Pretty Good Privacy(tm) 2.6.2 - Public-key encryption for the masses. (c) 1990-1994 Philip Zimmermann, Phil's Pretty Good Software. 11 Oct 94 Uses the RSAREF(tm) Toolkit, which is copyright RSA Data Security, Inc. Distributed by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Export of this software may be restricted by the U.S. government. Current time: 1996/03/24 01:26 GMT You specified no user ID to select your secret key, so the default user ID and key will be the most recently added key on your secret keyring. You need a pass phrase to unlock your RSA secret key. Key for user ID "Ken Bass " Enter pass phrase: cannot open tty, using stdin Unable to get terminal characteristics: ioctl: Invalid argument I am using linux, pine 3.92, and pgp 2.6.2. ---Ken From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 19:53:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16433; Sat, 23 Mar 96 19:53:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05961; Sat, 23 Mar 96 19:51:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05955; Sat, 23 Mar 96 19:51:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0gnv-00038TC; Sat, 23 Mar 96 19:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hynek Med Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 and Linux problems Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 13:16:39 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4iqsfr$5v2@news.udel.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 21 Mar 1996, Ashok Aiyar wrote: > The precompiled Pine binary does the exact same thing. The problems > are not unique to my system, but seem to occur on other systems > running sendmail-8.7.x. I am going to test the new Pine with > Sendmail-8.6.x next ...... I have same problems on sendmail 8.6.12, kernel 1.2.13, both with the pre-compiled and myself-compiled version, on both Linuxes I tried. It cannot send mail, because of unability to access my sent-mail folder, if I do a "list folders" it just says: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Folder-collection ** Default for Saves ** (Local) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ ** Empty List ** Select Here to Try Re-Expanding ] Adding folders is no help. (I vaguely remember pine saying something like "can't create mail/sent-mail, already exists - can this be a cause? Perhaps, but it behaves the same with a new user without mail subdirectory..) Of course I cannot access my saved-messages, either. It also behaves weird with two news-collections of mine.. On the other hand, remote folder collections work well. So? Hynek -- Hynek Med, xmedh02@manes.vse.cz From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 19:53:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16438; Sat, 23 Mar 96 19:53:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19528; Sat, 23 Mar 96 19:51:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19522; Sat, 23 Mar 96 19:51:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0gnv-00038FC; Sat, 23 Mar 96 19:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: a little help Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 07:57:31 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 21 Mar 1996, Wanda Robinson wrote: > Hello, I have only been using pine since February and feel very lost. My > provider does not provide much information on how to use pine, what info. > that is provided is very confusing to me a non-tec type person,can any > one out there offer any help with: > using Windows 95 and pine (printing e-mail) > FTP > Telnet > lynx > creating a signature line. > If no one can help might you recommend a good book? > Wanda First, FTP, Telnet, and lynx have nothing to do with Pine. Creating a signature file depends on what operating system you are using, which you did not specify, although your reference to Windows 95 would make me guess PC-Pine. Unfortunately I am not knowledgeable on using Pine other than under Unix, so I can't help you there. As for a good book, I am not yet aware of any book dedicated to Pine as such, because Pine as such is supposed to be relatively easy to use with its online Help screens. (Again, some of your questions have nothing to do with Pine, and how you would use them depends in part on your operating system.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 21:40:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17870; Sat, 23 Mar 96 21:40:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20749; Sat, 23 Mar 96 21:37:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20743; Sat, 23 Mar 96 21:37:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0iRR-00038WC; Sat, 23 Mar 96 21:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jeffers@redrose.net (David Jeffers) Subject: Pine 3.92 Date: 22 Mar 1996 14:43:37 GMT Message-Id: <4iueap$uk9@lily.redrose.net> Does anyone know if Pine 3.92 works with the Linux 1.2.13 kernel? I couldn't get it to compile -had two errors I haven't been able to track down. I used the "lnx" build and Pico and Pilot compiled just fine. Anyone? -- Linux 1.2.13 ---------------------------------- Email Politics Hub From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 21:41:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17910; Sat, 23 Mar 96 21:41:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07174; Sat, 23 Mar 96 21:36:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07168; Sat, 23 Mar 96 21:36:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0iRQ-00038TC; Sat, 23 Mar 96 21:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: caron@jade.jouy.inra.fr (Christophe Caron) Subject: Pine 3.92 and user root : update .pinerc ? bug ? Date: 22 Mar 1996 13:24:04 GMT Message-Id: <4iu9lk$4h5@saphir.jouy.inra.fr> Hi, On HP/UX and Solaris 2.4 with pine 3.92 when user root uses pine , i have [Error saving configuration in file "/.pinerc": No such file or directory] when pine try to update /.pinerc. I have try to create a null file /.pinerc or to copy my .pinerc under / , without any success. Whith chmod 666 on /.pinerc it's the same. Any idea Thanks in advance -- ========================================================= = Christophe Caron Unite Informatique de Jouy = = I.N.R.A. Domaine de Vilvert = = 78352 Jouy-en-Josas email : caron@jouy.inra.fr = ========================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 21:41:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17935; Sat, 23 Mar 96 21:41:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20721; Sat, 23 Mar 96 21:36:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20715; Sat, 23 Mar 96 21:36:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0iRQ-00038FC; Sat, 23 Mar 96 21:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jimmy Wan Subject: IMAP Folder Problems Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:53:23 -0800 Message-Id: <3152DB03.41C5@engin.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm having some problems getting my folders to work correctly. Apparently, I have only my INBOX on the mail server, and all of my folders are located in my Unix account space in the mail directory. Is there a workaround to be able to access these folders? As it stands right now, I can only access them if I am using Unix Pine. Jimmy Wan University of Michigan-Computer Engineering Turtle Beach Maui Page http://www-personal.umich.edu/~vecna/maui.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 21:41:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17960; Sat, 23 Mar 96 21:41:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20733; Sat, 23 Mar 96 21:37:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20723; Sat, 23 Mar 96 21:36:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0iRQ-00038UC; Sat, 23 Mar 96 21:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edwin@cs.ruu.nl (Edwin Kremer) Subject: Re: PGP interface for Pine 3.92? Date: 22 Mar 1996 13:02:13 GMT Message-Id: <4iu8cl$amq@krant.cs.ruu.nl> References: In Barry.Cornelius@durham.ac.uk (Barry Cornelius) writes: | Although I am happy with the outgoing bit, I would like more control over | the display-filters: (a) it's difficult to see what pgp is telling me --- Indeed. It's redraws the screen before you can even check if it got a good signature or not. However, if you exit your (shell/perl) script that does the display filter with a non-zero value, it will trigger a harmless display filter error in Pine, that has a nice side effect of not clearing the screen until you hit Other than that, I've just started with 3.92 (and only installed on one of our many architectures). Compliment to the Pine developers! I'm still not completely sure what exactly changed since 3.91, but I like it. Good job! best regards, --[ Edwin ]-- -- Edwin H. Kremer, systems- and network administrator. Dept. of Computer Science, Utrecht University, The Netherlands [WHOIS: ehk3] -------------------- http://www.cs.ruu.nl/people/edwin/ ----------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 21:42:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17991; Sat, 23 Mar 96 21:42:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07190; Sat, 23 Mar 96 21:37:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07184; Sat, 23 Mar 96 21:37:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0iRR-00038VC; Sat, 23 Mar 96 21:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pegboy@gti.net ( ) Subject: Re: Question. Date: 22 Mar 1996 14:11:26 GMT Message-Id: <4iucee$g2h@gti.gti.net> References: : Hehe, seems only thing I have to do now is wait for the university : admins to install the new version of Pine... :) : *l* Same here... is there anything the new Pine _doesn't_ do? ;) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 21:59:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18179; Sat, 23 Mar 96 21:59:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07378; Sat, 23 Mar 96 21:56:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07372; Sat, 23 Mar 96 21:56:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0ik3-00038TC; Sat, 23 Mar 96 21:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chuck McCullough Subject: Changing default "From" line ? Message-Id: <1996Mar8.033743.10479@oasis.enmu.edu> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 03:37:43 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Is there a way to change the Pine configuration to use a different return e-mail address "username" (i.e.,username@domain...)?? This is needed when an alias e-mail domain is used. Thanks! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 22:57:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19084; Sat, 23 Mar 96 22:57:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07999; Sat, 23 Mar 96 22:54:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07993; Sat, 23 Mar 96 22:54:29 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09715; Sat, 23 Mar 96 22:54:25 -0800 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 22:54:24 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Andrej Borsenkow Cc: Pine Developers , Pine mailing list Subject: Re: Bug (ID DJ577): Fcc is computed incorrectly if using mail-box format of address In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Your fix is reasonable but re-introduces the bug we were trying to fix when we changed it a couple weeks ago. That bug has to do with what pops up in the fcc line when you enter a list in the To line. There will be a more comprehensive and hopefully correct fix in 3.93. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Sat, 23 Mar 1996, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > I don't know, why the behavior was changed. If it is only for > optimization, it is a clear bug. Probably, there are some othe reasons - I > don't know. > > I attach small patch to pico/composer.c; it just reverts to Pine 3.91 > scheme to uncoditionally recompute fcc. > > I tried modified Pine and it seems to work so far ;-) The original > behaviour was rather frustrating to me. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 23 23:09:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19380; Sat, 23 Mar 96 23:09:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21675; Sat, 23 Mar 96 23:05:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21669; Sat, 23 Mar 96 23:05:15 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09840; Sat, 23 Mar 96 23:05:10 -0800 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 23:05:10 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Andrej Borsenkow Cc: Pine Developers , Pine mailing list Subject: Re: Problem when compiling Pine 3.92 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII No, the version you got is the same as the one from our site and it is indeed a bug. Thanks for noticing it. It will be fixed in 3.93. If you just want to edit to make your compiler happy, initialize those two variables to zero everywhere (which is what 3.93 will do). Thanks. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle > As you see, two elements (dirty and start_here) are not initializes; > moreover, they are not even mentioned in comments. Also, it looks strange > with KS_OSDATAVAR and hdr_line fields; probably, they also should be > intialized conditionally. > > Have anybody also seen it? Probably, I got some wrong distribution - I > picked it up from mirror site in Germany, not form ftp.cac.washington.edu? > > thanks in advance > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 > SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 > > NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 24 00:14:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20423; Sun, 24 Mar 96 00:14:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22427; Sun, 24 Mar 96 00:12:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22421; Sun, 24 Mar 96 00:12:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0ksK-00038FC; Sun, 24 Mar 96 00:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: g053200@spdsjw.gteds.gtenet.com (Stephen J. Weihman) Subject: Re: More than one addressbook? Date: 22 Mar 1996 15:46:46 GMT Message-Id: <4iui16$g4u@ceylon.gte.com> References: <4is97p$9oi@atlantis.utmb.edu> In article <4is97p$9oi@atlantis.utmb.edu>, sireesha@marlin.utmb.edu (Sireesha Mandava) writes: > Is there a way to select an addressbook of your choice. I would like to >create a central address with all the addresses and then the users will create >their own address book. What I would like to do give a choice to switch >between these two address books. With Pine, you can set up a global addressbook, which users will not be able to edit. This is in addition to their personal addressbook. Pine doesn't really let you switch between the two, on an either-or basis. Instead, it uses the combination of the two. Regardless of whether an an address is in the global or personal addressbook, Pine will find it. If you want to bring up an addressbook, you *can* however select either to list. To use the global addressbook, go into Setup/Config, and find the entry for global-address-book. One thing to remember, this list should be a personal addressbook (so that it can be edited) for the administrator that is charged with keeping the book up to date. -- Pedestrians: The quick or the dead. -- ------------------------------------------------------- -- Stephen J. Weihman -*- GTE Data Services -- ------------------------------------------------------- -- The opinions expressed herein are entirely my -- -- own, and are not necessarily those of GTE. -- ------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 24 00:17:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20490; Sun, 24 Mar 96 00:17:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08865; Sun, 24 Mar 96 00:12:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08859; Sun, 24 Mar 96 00:12:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0ksf-00038UC; Sun, 24 Mar 96 00:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kravietz@pipeta.chemia.pk.edu.pl (Pawel Krawczyk) Subject: Q: PGP support in Pine Message-Id: Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 15:59:24 GMT Will ever Pine have support for PGP? I mean internal support, not patches like mkpgp. -- Pawel Krawczyk, FidoNet: 2:486/18.4 email: kravietz@pipeta.chemia.pk.edu.pl Location: Cracow, Poland, PGP key available on finger From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 24 00:18:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20522; Sun, 24 Mar 96 00:18:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22406; Sun, 24 Mar 96 00:12:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22400; Sun, 24 Mar 96 00:12:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0ksc-00038TC; Sun, 24 Mar 96 00:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: knut@sdm.de (Knut Landmark) Subject: Re: PGP interface for Pine 3.92? Date: 22 Mar 1996 15:54:50 GMT Message-Id: <4iuiga$44o@sunti1.sdm.de> References: Barry Cornelius (Barry.Cornelius@durham.ac.uk) wrote: : In order to add a digital signature to my outgoing messages, I have set : sending-filters to be: : /usr/local/bin/pgp -fats : : ... : : How are other people enabling Pine 3.92 for PGP? After adding two filters like the above one I noticed that I could not see which one I was using because of the missing parameters. So I wrote two shell scripts that just call pgp with -fast or -feast. Now I can see the names of the scripts. I think it would be better to have entries like this: "PGP encrypt" /usr/local/bin/pgp -feast "PGP sign" /usr/local/bin/pgp -fast Pine could show only the quoted string. This would make it very easy to distinguish the different filters. Comments? Knut Knut C. Landmark |s |d &|m | software design & management GmbH&Co. KG Projekt DATEV-VV | | | | Finanzinformationssysteme, Bereich FID | | | | Thomas-Dehler-Str. 27, 81737 Muenchen Knut.Landmark@sdm.de | | | | Tel: +49 89 63812-448(0) Fax: -490 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 24 02:30:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23434; Sun, 24 Mar 96 02:30:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24033; Sun, 24 Mar 96 02:27:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24027; Sun, 24 Mar 96 02:27:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0mzE-00038TC; Sun, 24 Mar 96 02:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: millar@isc.upenn.edu (Dave Millar) Subject: Pine and S/MIME or PGP/MIME Date: 22 Mar 1996 18:11:30 GMT Message-Id: or MOSS. Anyone know of any plans for Pine to support any of the email security standards that the Internet Mail Consortium (http://www.imc.org/) is trying to reconcile? Dave Millar -- __________________________________________________________ Dave Millar University Information Security Officer University of Pennsylvania For security matters: security@isc.upenn.edu (Read by Data Admin. Staff) Other matters: millar@pobox.upenn.edu voice: (215) 898-2172 PGP Fingerprint: 28 FB 09 DC C7 96 C2 53 1A B8 BE 3B 73 32 46 4C For PGP Public key: http://www.upenn.edu/security-privacy/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 24 02:31:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23497; Sun, 24 Mar 96 02:31:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10243; Sun, 24 Mar 96 02:27:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10237; Sun, 24 Mar 96 02:27:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0mzB-00038FC; Sun, 24 Mar 96 02:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: trulsonj@clem.mscd.edu (Jon Trulson) Subject: Pine 3.92 mail sending problems? Date: 22 Mar 1996 17:02:06 GMT Message-Id: <4iumee$h9d@clem.mscd.edu> I downloaded the Pine 3.92 source and compiled it on my DU box (OSF/1), it seems to work except when sending mail... As soon as I try to send mail, it immediately returns an Error, but does not tell me what that error is. Nor is there any indication of an error in the pine-debug files. I went into the source and noticed that the options passed to sendmail are different that the pine 3.91 version we have. I changed the options to be the same as out pine 3.91, but now all it does is hang, with 'Sending %0' on the screen. I then have to manually kill it from another xterm. Anyone else seen this problem? -- -- Jon Trulson Inet: (work) trulsonj@clem.mscd.edu Systems Programmer II : (home) jon@radscan.com Information Technology, Metropolitan State College of Denver, Colorado Patent Pending FREE MARS! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 24 04:05:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25393; Sun, 24 Mar 96 04:05:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11218; Sun, 24 Mar 96 04:02:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11212; Sun, 24 Mar 96 04:02:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0oRp-00038FC; Sun, 24 Mar 96 03:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brownwm@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (William G. S. Brown) Subject: Select (?) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 16:42:48 GMT I'd like to select a group of messages for a common action (e.g. Save, Delete etc) then, once selected, apply the common action. My help screen seems to imply that the ";" can be used for Select and A for action. This can't be right because Pine tells me that ";" is not allowed on the screen that shows the folder contents. Any ideas? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 24 04:34:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26100; Sun, 24 Mar 96 04:34:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25611; Sun, 24 Mar 96 04:32:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25605; Sun, 24 Mar 96 04:32:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0owp-00038FC; Sun, 24 Mar 96 04:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wsyoung@igate.iohk.com (YOUNG Wo Sang) Subject: received notify Date: 24 Mar 1996 12:26:34 GMT Message-Id: <4j3f1q$e7j@ibridge.iohk.com> hello how are you? Is it possible? I want to have notification automatically when my client & friends have read the mail. -- Sang _______________________________________________________________________ | Young Wo Sang | Certified Netware Engineer wsyoung@iohk.com | http://www.iohk.com/UserPages/wsyoung wsyoung@gti.com.hk | Hong Kong | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 24 04:50:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26491; Sun, 24 Mar 96 04:50:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11866; Sun, 24 Mar 96 04:47:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11860; Sun, 24 Mar 96 04:47:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0pA6-00038FC; Sun, 24 Mar 96 04:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Elaine Sue Parrish Subject: need help with project Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 06:07:28 -0600 Message-Id: References: <4isc4r$iv@wally.uofport.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4isc4r$iv@wally.uofport.edu> Please help me with my Thesis project. (At the end of this message, there are some questions.) I am a post-grad student at Mississippi State University. Last May I earned my Master's degree in Technology. This summer I, hopefully, will get my Ed.S. The Technology department at State offers a program that is applicable to business/industry or education, depending on the electives chosen. The program is an overview of the many facets of technology today. Courses include Networking, Telecommunications (Internet), Lab Management, Planing for Technology programs, Multi-Media (incorporating Audio, Video, text, graphics, animation, and clipart), Design and Evaluation of Software, Emerging Technologies, Repair and Maintenance, and software applications Microsoft Works, Compel, HyperCard, PageMaker, CorelDraw, and PowerPoint. *NOTE*: There is no programming in this department and it is not part of, nor associated with, the Computer Science Department. The point of my project is to collect job information about positions in the public or private sector that are available to persons with this education. These job titles do not have to be positions that are currently vacant. The idea here is to create a database of the kinds of jobs that are out there. If you are interested, you may check out my homepage which is dedicated to this project. There are links to my Resume, the computer applications that I use, my personal computer-related library, and an overview of the course descriptions. http://www2.msstate.edu/~esp1/index.html or (for all the homepages at Mississippi State University, mine included) http://www.msstate.edu/local_users.html (no "2") All questions below are optional; but I would appreciate as much information as you will share with me. Job Title: Brief Description: Company: Brief Description: City, State: jobs of this kind in company: entry level salary: Comments: Your Name: City, State: Thank you for your time and for your assistance. Elaine Parrish ***************************************************************************** Elaine S. Parrish "What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not esp1@ra.msstate.edu yet been discovered."- Emerson(1803-1882) (that's: esp one) Starkville, Mississippi ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "One man with courage makes a majority." Andrew Jackson (1767-1845) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Genealogy Buff-ette: Surnames (anytime, anywhere): [esp. Arkansas, Texas]: Parrish \ Bowen \ Doroden \ Hamilton \ Chappell [esp. Missouri {Stoddard Co}]: Douglas \ Henson \ Pirtle; Purtell \ Livingston; Levingston \ Malone \ Shrader; Schrader; Schreader \ Moore ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "A sharp tongue is the only edge tool that grows keener with constant use." - Washington Irving (1783-1859) ***************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 24 05:02:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26635; Sun, 24 Mar 96 05:02:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12003; Sun, 24 Mar 96 05:00:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ix.ix.netcom.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11935; Sun, 24 Mar 96 04:53:23 -0800 Received: from [206.163.115.179] by ix.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id DAA06039; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 03:53:07 -0800 X-Sender: astill@aksi.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Reply-To: please.respond.via.fax.or.smail@fax.number.shown.or.smail.address.shown.thank.you Approved: moderator X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 00:57:28 +0800 To: lucy22@track.uwra.ac.au From: lucy22@track.uwra.ac.au (Lucy Whitten) Subject: ===>> FREE 1 yr. Magazine Sub sent worldwide- 272+ Popular USA Titles -----> NOTE: Please first read my note which appears below the "Request for more info Form." Then, to get more info, just fill out the "Request for More Info" form completely and *FAX* or *SMAIL* it back to the company. You will get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of the info request form below. IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR THOSE FAXING IN THEIR REPLY: Please make sure you return *only* the below form and *no part* of this message other than the actual form below. If you do not know how to cut and paste the below form onto a fresh clean blank page for faxing, then you may re-type the below form, as long as you copy it line for line *exactly.* This is necessary in order for them to be able to process the tremendous number of replies that they get daily. Your fax goes directly onto their 4.2 gigabyte computer hard drive, not paper, and all incoming fax calls are set-up to be *auto-terminated* if your fax: 1. has a cover page; 2. is more than one page 3. does not begin with the "cut here/begin" line from the below form 4. does not end with the "cut here/end" line from the below form. 5. has any handwritten info. on it (info must must be filled out *only* with your computer keyboard or typewriter keyboard). This last provision re: no handwriting on the form applies to requests sent in via smail also. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ NOTE: Their fax line is open 24 hrs. per day / 7 days per week. If you have trouble getting through to their fax, or do not have a fax machine at work or at home, just drop the below form to them via smail (airmail or first class mail). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ *------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------* REQUEST FOR MORE INFO: please return *only* this section (with no cover page) via 1-page fax to: 718-967-1550 in the USA or via smail (first class mail or airmail) to: Magazine Club Inquiry Center Att. FREE Catalogue-by-email Dept. PO Box 990 Staten Island NY 10312-0990 Sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged. If you do not have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you until you do have one. If you saw this message, then you should have one. :) ---> SORRY, BUT NO HANDWRITTEN FORMS WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED. MUST BE TYPED-OUT ON YOUR COMPUTER OR TYPEWRITER. <--- Name: Internet email address: Smail home address: City-State-Zip: Country: Work Tel. #: Work Fax #: Home Tel. #: Home Fax #: How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of the internet that you saw us mentioned in): Referral by: Lucy Whitten. 032296-l Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store: Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail: Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you: Catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"): *------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------* Catalogue Format Options: 1. 19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total). 2. For more advanced computer users: attached text file ~525K - you must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to open it with your word processor. If in doubt, don't ask for this version. This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1 and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how to deal with this option. 3. For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea), ~133K. Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed. You just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands (unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as you still have to know how to deal with an attached file. It will cut your download time by 75%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. 4. For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with Stuffit(tm), ~114K. Can be decompressed by any computer user who has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files. This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your download time by 78%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. Hi fellow 'netters, My name is Lucy Whitten and I recently started using a magazine subscription club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them. They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country on a subscription basis. As for computer magazines from the USA, they more of a selection than I ever knew even existed. They have magazines for most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles. Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their competitors and even the publishers themselves. This is their price guarantee. Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines. On some titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge. They feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas. In the USA, people buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes or hours. They are so cheap in the USA! Well, this company would like to make it the same way for their overseas members. They are also cheaper than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the publishers themselves! This is their price guarantee. Around one-half their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language. Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and cut-out all the middlemen. They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student. I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my part-time software business! Please fill out the above form and carefully follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail. They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet. They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it. They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I haved moved from one country to another. They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA. They will give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular USA titles they sell. They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have clients in around 45 or 46 countries now. Outside the USA there is a charge for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie subs) that varies from magazine to magazine. I have found their staff to be very friendly and courteous. They even helped me with an address change when I moved from one country to another. The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members" (even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts as a new member. When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes he has one of his assistants call. He is kind of quirky sometimes - he insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!), but you can place future orders (after your first order) via E-mail. He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know just as much as he does about this magazine stuff. If you live overseas, he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long distance rates are cheaper then. He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing members and he does virtually no advertising. When I got set-up, they had a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately when you call. ) I think they are able to get back to prospective new members the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased their staff. I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above form to them, that is the way to get started! They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell. They then send you email that outlines how his club works and the list of free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what he sells; and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly, no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and answer all your questions. Once you get in, you'll love them. I do. Sincerely, Lucy Whitten ps. please forward a copy of this message to all your friends on the net who you think might be interested in it! It is a great deal! If you join and then they join after you, you will earn a free 1 yr. subscription for each new person you get to join after you join! If you exceed 25 referrals, they let you use them to give away as gifts, for Christmas, Chanukah or any other occasion. Please be kind enough to mention my name when you join. I will then get a free magazine for a year for referring you. Thank you. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 24 05:14:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27042; Sun, 24 Mar 96 05:14:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26094; Sun, 24 Mar 96 05:12:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26088; Sun, 24 Mar 96 05:12:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0pWg-00038FC; Sun, 24 Mar 96 05:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andreas@knobel.gun.de (Andreas Klemm) Subject: Re: Q: PGP support in Pine Date: 24 Mar 1996 11:15:34 GMT Message-Id: <4j3asm$f2@knobel.gun.de> References: <4j0dl5$63k@tbone.biol.sc.edu> In article <4j0dl5$63k@tbone.biol.sc.edu>, dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu (Dean Pentcheff) writes: >kravietz@pipeta.chemia.pk.edu.pl (Pawel Krawczyk) writes: >>Will ever Pine have support for PGP? I mean internal support, not >>patches like mkpgp. > >The most recently released version (3.92) has an excellent set of hooks >for PGP support I have adapted the following series of scripts to do >the job. They were posted here a couple of days ago (the original >author's name and address is in the scripts). They make it very, very >painless to use PGP: > > >---------- pgpdecode --------- >#!/bin/sh ># 21.03.96 Roland Rosenfeld >trap "rm -f /home/dean/.tmp/pgpdecode.???.$$; exit" 0 1 2 15 >(pgp -f > /home/dean/.tmp/pgpdecode.txt.$$) 2>&1 | tee /home/dean/.tmp/pgpdecode.pgp.$$ 1>&2 >sed -e 's/^/| /' /home/dean/.tmp/pgpdecode.pgp.$$ >echo " " >cat /home/dean/.tmp/pgpdecode.txt.$$ I'd suggest the following solution for pgpdecode. Everything will be written to /tmp, so this script is suitable for everyone on a multiuser system and to secure the temp-files in /tmp, the umask will be set, so that the permissions are secure (rw-------). #! /bin/sh # 21.03.96 Roland Rosenfeld # # Sun Mar 24 12:01:21 MET 1996 Andreas Klemm # The tmp files in the original version were world readable for # the short time of unpacking, setting suitable umask prevents this # umask 077 trap "rm -f /tmp/pgpdecode.???.$$; exit" 0 1 2 15 (pgp -f > /tmp/pgpdecode.txt.$$) 2>&1 | tee /tmp/pgpdecode.pgp.$$ 1>&2 sed -e 's/^/| /' /tmp/pgpdecode.pgp.$$ echo " " cat /tmp/pgpdecode.txt.$$ -- andreas@knobel.gun.de /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ $$ Support Unix - aklemm@wup.de $$ pgp p-key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html >>> powered by <<< ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz >>> FreeBSD <<< "Ich bleibe bei der Aussage und trotze den Flames. :-)" Ulli Horlacher 02/96 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 24 05:34:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27345; Sun, 24 Mar 96 05:34:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12367; Sun, 24 Mar 96 05:32:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12361; Sun, 24 Mar 96 05:32:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0psx-00038FC; Sun, 24 Mar 96 05:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu (Ashok Aiyar) Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 mail sending problems? Date: 22 Mar 1996 18:57:13 GMT Message-Id: References: <4iumee$h9d@clem.mscd.edu> On 22 Mar 1996 17:02:06 GMT, Jon Trulson wrote: > I downloaded the Pine 3.92 source and compiled it on my DU box >(OSF/1), it seems to work except when sending mail... As soon as I try to >send mail, it immediately returns an Error, but does not tell me what that >error is. Nor is there any indication of an error in the pine-debug files. >I went into the source and noticed that the options passed to sendmail are >different that the pine 3.91 version we have. I changed the options to be >the same as out pine 3.91, but now all it does is hang, with 'Sending %0' on >the screen. I then have to manually kill it from another xterm. Yes! I have seen this exact same problem on on two different different Linux boxes (one running sendmail-8.7.3, and the other running sendmail-8.7.5). On both computers, if I switch to sendmail-8.6.13, the "Error" is no longer returned when I try to send mail using Pine, and the mail is sent okay. On both computers, Pine 3.91 worked fine with sendmail-8.7.x. Finally, as an interim solution, if I create a global pine configuration file (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) and edit the line "smtp-server=" to read as "smtp-server=localhost", Pine 3.92 sends mail okay even with sendmail-8.7.x. I would be interested in learning if you can duplicate any of the observations I have made on OSF/1, and if the workaround mentioned above works. Cheers, Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. Department of Oncology aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison tel: (608) 262-6697 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 24 06:29:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27918; Sun, 24 Mar 96 06:29:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26727; Sun, 24 Mar 96 06:17:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26721; Sun, 24 Mar 96 06:17:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0qYR-00038TC; Sun, 24 Mar 96 06:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucy22@track.uwra.ac.au (Lucy Whitten) Message-Id: Control: cancel <4j3h4a$ndj@rain.psg.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <4j3h4a$ndj@rain.psg.com> Date: 24 Mar 1996 13:08:54 GMT Cancelled by jem@xpat.com. 827672934 KEV Original Subject was: ===>> FREE 1 yr. Magazine Sub sent worldwide- 272+ Popular USA Titles From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 24 07:01:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28392; Sun, 24 Mar 96 07:01:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13104; Sun, 24 Mar 96 06:47:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13098; Sun, 24 Mar 96 06:47:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0r3F-00038FC; Sun, 24 Mar 96 06:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucy22@track.uwra.ac.au (Lucy Whitten) Message-Id: Control: cancel <4j3icm$o0e@rain.psg.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <4j3icm$o0e@rain.psg.com> Date: 24 Mar 1996 13:30:46 GMT Cancelled by jem@xpat.com. 827674246 KEV Original Subject was: ===>> FREE 1 yr. Magazine Sub sent worldwide- 272+ Popular USA Titles From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 24 07:41:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28971; Sun, 24 Mar 96 07:41:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13509; Sun, 24 Mar 96 07:28:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from epos.easynet.co.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13503; Sun, 24 Mar 96 07:28:44 -0800 Received: (from clive@localhost) by epos.easynet.co.uk (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA00537; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 15:27:05 GMT Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 15:27:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Clive Messer To: Ashok Aiyar Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 mail sending problems? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 22 Mar 1996, Ashok Aiyar wrote: > On 22 Mar 1996 17:02:06 GMT, Jon Trulson wrote: > > I downloaded the Pine 3.92 source and compiled it on my DU box > >(OSF/1), it seems to work except when sending mail... As soon as I try to > >send mail, it immediately returns an Error, but does not tell me what that > >error is. Nor is there any indication of an error in the pine-debug files. > >I went into the source and noticed that the options passed to sendmail are > >different that the pine 3.91 version we have. I changed the options to be > >the same as out pine 3.91, but now all it does is hang, with 'Sending %0' on > >the screen. I then have to manually kill it from another xterm. > > Yes! I have seen this exact same problem on on two different > different Linux boxes (one running sendmail-8.7.3, and the other > running sendmail-8.7.5). Same noted here with Linux/sendmail-8.7.5. > Finally, as an interim solution, if I create a global pine > configuration file (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) and edit the > line "smtp-server=" to read as "smtp-server=localhost", Pine 3.92 > sends mail okay even with sendmail-8.7.x. Or add to pine/osdep/os-lnx.h..... #define DF_SENDMAIL_PATH "/usr/sbin/sendmail -oi -oem -t" ... to return to 3.91 behaviour. Clive. -- C Messer. Epos Systems. UK. | | "I pressed her thigh and death smiled." | Jim Morrison. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 24 08:14:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29403; Sun, 24 Mar 96 08:14:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13863; Sun, 24 Mar 96 08:03:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13857; Sun, 24 Mar 96 08:03:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0sCG-00038VC; Sun, 24 Mar 96 07:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dana Brewer Subject: Problem with Pine 3.92 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 06:44:29 -0800 Message-Id: <3152BCCD.671C@nav.cc.tx.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm having a strange problem with Pine 3.92 for AIX that I can't quite figure out. It works great for all users except root. Under the root id, it says that it can't write the configuration to /.pinerc because the file doesn't exist. But it does! I've checked the permissions, owner, group, etc... and everything looks fine. Any one else have this problem? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 24 08:14:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29404; Sun, 24 Mar 96 08:14:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27814; Sun, 24 Mar 96 08:03:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27808; Sun, 24 Mar 96 08:03:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0sCG-00038WC; Sun, 24 Mar 96 07:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ezra Van Everbroeck Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 and Linux problems Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 23:01:42 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4iqsfr$5v2@news.udel.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 22 Mar 1996, Hynek Med wrote: > On 21 Mar 1996, Ashok Aiyar wrote: > > > The precompiled Pine binary does the exact same thing. The problems > > are not unique to my system, but seem to occur on other systems > > running sendmail-8.7.x. I am going to test the new Pine with > > Sendmail-8.6.x next ...... > > I have same problems on sendmail 8.6.12, kernel 1.2.13, both with the > pre-compiled and myself-compiled version, on both Linuxes I tried. I am afraid that I don't know what's causing your problems, but Pine 3.92 (self-compiled on this 1.2.13 machine) works fine with my sendmail 8.7.5. Have you checked the permissions of the relevant files and directories? Or tried increasing the debugging level of sendmail? Good luck, Ezra Ezra Van Everbroeck - - Centre for Computational Linguistics 1972 - - Mbuji-Mayi - -- - ezra@ccl.kuleuven.ac.be - K.U.Leuven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 24 08:14:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29416; Sun, 24 Mar 96 08:14:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13855; Sun, 24 Mar 96 08:03:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13849; Sun, 24 Mar 96 08:03:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0sBv-00038TC; Sun, 24 Mar 96 07:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Melusky" Subject: Re: a little help Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 14:23:04 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hi Wanda, I have Windows 95 too. I print email from home all the time. What specific questions do you have. Since I'm at the UW (where PINE was born) I have access to lots of help desk folks, so ask away one at a time, OK? J. __o _`\<,_ (*)/ (*) http://weber.u.washington.edu/~whatfer/jonjen.html __o `'`'``'``'`'~\_ email:whatfer@u.washington.edu _`\<,_ HomeSweetHome \ finger:we have a .plan (*)/ (*) Jon & Jenny \ __o ___/~`'`'`'` \ _`\<,_ _/(\"/)```~. SEATTLE WA USA \_ (*)/ (*) / o o ( ( )_ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~````'`'`'`'`'`''~~~~ >O<- ~ "~ On 21 Mar 1996, Wanda Robinson wrote: > Hello, I have only been using pine since February and feel very lost. My > provider does not provide much information on how to use pine, what info. > that is provided is very confusing to me a non-tec type person,can any > one out there offer any help with: > using Windows 95 and pine (printing e-mail) > FTP > Telnet > lynx > creating a signature line. > If no one can help might you recommend a good book? > Wanda > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 24 08:15:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29491; Sun, 24 Mar 96 08:15:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27798; Sun, 24 Mar 96 08:03:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27792; Sun, 24 Mar 96 08:03:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0sBu-00038FC; Sun, 24 Mar 96 07:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Melusky" Subject: Re: Select (?) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 14:16:52 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hi William, __o _`\<,_ (*)/ (*) http://weber.u.washington.edu/~whatfer/jonjen.html __o `'`'``'``'`'~\_ email:whatfer@u.washington.edu _`\<,_ HomeSweetHome \ finger:we have a .plan (*)/ (*) Jon & Jenny \ __o ___/~`'`'`'` \ _`\<,_ _/(\"/)```~. SEATTLE WA USA \_ (*)/ (*) / o o ( ( )_ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~````'`'`'`'`'`''~~~~ >O<- ~ "~ > I'd like to select a group of messages for a common action (e.g. Save, Delete > etc) then, once selected, apply the common action. My help screen seems to > imply that the ";" can be used for Select and A for action. This can't be > right because Pine tells me that ";" is not allowed on the screen that > shows the folder contents. > Any ideas? Thanks. > What do you see at the top of the screen where you are trying the ";"? I see "FOLDER INDEX" and the ";" & "A" commands work fine for me. I just now tried it in inbox index and a usenet index folder. Jon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 24 08:16:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29499; Sun, 24 Mar 96 08:16:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27806; Sun, 24 Mar 96 08:03:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27800; Sun, 24 Mar 96 08:03:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0sBx-00038UC; Sun, 24 Mar 96 07:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rasheed Baqai Subject: Pine-PC Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 14:07:36 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just a quick question that I lookeed up at washington.edu, but I just wanted to clarify it to make sure I got it right. Unix Pine has message folders that save all the messages together into one file. Now, does PC pine do the same thing so that I could simply copy those files onto my PC and Pine would understand them the equally? Rasheed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 24 12:17:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03667; Sun, 24 Mar 96 12:17:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16869; Sun, 24 Mar 96 12:13:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16863; Sun, 24 Mar 96 12:13:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u0w76-00038FC; Sun, 24 Mar 96 12:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dharsee Moez Subject: Lost my PINE Inbox Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <3153230F.63AD@cdf.toronto.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 22:00:47 GMT Hi. Recently I ran, for the first time, the Netscape 2.0 Mail program. Since then, my Pine Inbox would update with new messages. Netscape created a directory, "nsmail", in which it stores the Netscape inbox, called "Inbox". It also has the file "..PINE", which is the PINE Inbox the last time it was updated. Anyway, I changed the inbox path in PINE to nsmail/Inbox; but now, in PINE, new messages only appear once I've already opened them in Netscape, not otherwise. What can I do to restore the INBOX in PINE?? I'm using a Sun SparcStation and PINE 3.90. Thanks in advance. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MOEZ A. DHARSEE, g5Moez@CDF.Toronto.Edu, Moez@Maritz.Com It's all fun and games until University of Toronto, St-George Campus somebody gets hurt... Computer Science/Human Biology, 3rd Year Undergrad then it's a sport! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 24 17:54:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09234; Sun, 24 Mar 96 17:54:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04961; Sun, 24 Mar 96 17:49:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04955; Sun, 24 Mar 96 17:49:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u11Nq-00038TC; Sun, 24 Mar 96 17:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Harris Subject: Re: Has my mail been read????? Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 17:00:53 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4ilkev$sn6@rain.psg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Use the UNIX Finger utility with the -l option and your target's e-mail address as an argument as follows: finger -l Finger gives you information as to whether or not your target is logged in, when he was last logged in, when he last read his mail and when he received the last e-mail, if any, and some other information as well. Note that if your target's system administrator has disabled the finger utility, you will not be able to determine if your target has received your message or not. John On Tue, 19 Mar 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On 18 Mar 1996, Sally Vaughan wrote: > > : How can I tell if a e-mail message I have sent through pine has been > : read by the person I sent it to???? > > In general, you can't. Sorry. > > Paul > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA > Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key > Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 24 23:55:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14851; Sun, 24 Mar 96 23:55:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09212; Sun, 24 Mar 96 23:53:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from stalin.ts.umu.se by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09206; Sun, 24 Mar 96 23:52:59 -0800 Received: from stalin.ts.umu.se by ts.umu.se with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #7) id m0u175F-0003jFC; Mon, 25 Mar 96 08:52 MET Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 08:52:57 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Arvendal Reply-To: Mats Arvendal To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PGP filter for pine 3.92 In-Reply-To: <4is8nn$4h8@spinnaker.rhein.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 21 Mar 1996, Roland Rosenfeld wrote: [...] > These scripts are configured in .pinerc as: > > ------------------- .pinerc -------------------------------- [...] > # This defines a program that message text is piped into before MIME > # encoding, prior to sending > sending-filters=/home/roland/bin/pgpsign, > /home/roland/bin/pgpencrypt _RECIPIENTS_ > Any better ideas? > Roland You could add your own emailaddress to sending-filters, this way you can read the copy in the sent-mail folder. sending-filters=/home/roland/bin/pgpsign, /home/roland/bin/pgpencrypt roland@spinnaker.rhein.de _RECIPIENTS_ /Mats From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 01:33:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17160; Mon, 25 Mar 96 01:33:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10310; Mon, 25 Mar 96 01:25:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10304; Mon, 25 Mar 96 01:25:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u18TF-00038FC; Mon, 25 Mar 96 01:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Deon de Villiers Subject: Problem with Pico editor Date: 25 Mar 1996 09:21:06 GMT Message-Id: <4j5oi2$pob@newnews.iafrica.com> Hi All I have recently downloaded and compiled the pico editor. It is just what I was looking for - nice and easy for new users. I have two issues I would like some help on. 1. The help tells me that Ctrl-^ is used to select text. I cannot seem to get this right 2. How does one overtype characters (ie. vi's replace mode). Thanks Deon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 02:23:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17805; Mon, 25 Mar 96 02:23:59 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26718; Mon, 25 Mar 96 02:20:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26712; Mon, 25 Mar 96 02:20:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u19Li-00038FC; Mon, 25 Mar 96 02:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: apattser@mozart.inet.co.th (Apatt) Subject: Re: Eudora Nicknames to Pine Address Book? Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 04:09:26 GMT Message-Id: <4ivtm7$2sj@senior.nectec.or.th> References: jml@primenet.com (Jack M. LaPedis) wrote: >Is there an easy way to convert/export the Mac Eudora 'Nicknames' to a >Pine 'Address Book'? There's a program which can be downloaded from http://www.interguru.com that is supposed to do this conversion, have not tried it muself (I have no need for such a conversion). \_ |\ `\~-._| \ `\ ~\ ) \- // ,,.--(_ ("""'^. Best regards ;;( ,___, ,/~`\; ;' )/>/ '--, Apatt | `\ |" " " " From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 02:25:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17857; Mon, 25 Mar 96 02:25:59 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26726; Mon, 25 Mar 96 02:20:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26720; Mon, 25 Mar 96 02:20:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u19Lj-00038UC; Mon, 25 Mar 96 02:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Melusky" Subject: Re: Question. Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 22:44:27 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4iucee$g2h@gti.gti.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4iucee$g2h@gti.gti.net> On 22 Mar 1996 pegboy@gti.net wrote: > : Hehe, seems only thing I have to do now is wait for the university > : admins to install the new version of Pine... :) > > *l* Same here... is there anything the new Pine _doesn't_ do? ;) > Sometimes the new Pine _doesn't_ remember where my INBOX is. It works fine now but I wasn't fiddlin' with nuttin' when it freaked and fixed itself. J __o _`\<,_ (*)/ (*) http://weber.u.washington.edu/~whatfer/jonjen.html __o `'`'``'``'`'~\_ email:whatfer@u.washington.edu _`\<,_ HomeSweetHome \ finger:we have a .plan (*)/ (*) Jon & Jenny \ __o ___/~`'`'`'` \ _`\<,_ _/(\"/)```~. SEATTLE WA USA \_ (*)/ (*) / o o ( ( )_ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~````'`'`'`'`'`''~~~~ >O<- ~ "~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 02:26:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17959; Mon, 25 Mar 96 02:26:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10918; Mon, 25 Mar 96 02:20:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10912; Mon, 25 Mar 96 02:20:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u19Li-00038TC; Mon, 25 Mar 96 02:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ctorlins@crl.com (Christoph Torlinsky) Subject: pine 3.92 does not get it Date: 22 Mar 1996 22:39:22 -0800 Message-Id: <4j06aq$hpi@crl7.crl.com> My pine 3.92 does not get the masquerading that is that in my sendmail.cf all my outgoing mail has the histname only instead of the domainname that is supposed to be used from the sendmail.cf...anyhow, if someone can tell me how to rememdy this so all my outgoing mail looks right thanks -chris From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 02:55:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27712; Mon, 25 Mar 96 02:55:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27866; Mon, 25 Mar 96 02:46:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27850; Mon, 25 Mar 96 02:46:12 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 25 Mar 1996 10:43:37 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA11446; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 10:44:51 GMT Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 10:44:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "William G. S. Brown" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Select (?) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The Select (;), Apply (A) and Zoom (Z) command are not available by default; you must enable them before you can use them. Go to the Setup Configuration screen (S then C from the Main Menu) and check the "enable-aggregate-command-set" feature. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 22 Mar 1996, William G. S. Brown wrote: > I'd like to select a group of messages for a common action (e.g. Save, Delete > etc) then, once selected, apply the common action. My help screen seems to > imply that the ";" can be used for Select and A for action. This can't be > right because Pine tells me that ";" is not allowed on the screen that > shows the folder contents. > > Any ideas? Thanks. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 03:25:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07949; Mon, 25 Mar 96 03:25:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13903; Mon, 25 Mar 96 03:20:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13897; Mon, 25 Mar 96 03:20:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1AGg-00038FC; Mon, 25 Mar 96 03:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cudaf@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Alan Robiette) Subject: Filters in Pine 3.92 Date: 25 Mar 1996 11:05:50 -0000 Message-Id: <4j5ume$pmc@crocus.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone managed to get the new filter options to work in Pine 3.92 yet? I can't seem to get either the display or the sending filter to do anything. I guess it's just my failure to understand the syntax required in .pinerc to set them up, but if someone could post an example I'd really appreciate it. TIA, Alan ============================================================================== Alan Robiette, IT Services Dept, University of Warwick, Coventry CV4 7AL, UK Phone +44-1203-524459 Fax +44-1203-523267 Email From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 03:51:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16641; Mon, 25 Mar 96 03:51:20 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14971; Mon, 25 Mar 96 03:40:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14965; Mon, 25 Mar 96 03:40:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1Aaa-00038TC; Mon, 25 Mar 96 03:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: weyers@sugra.desy.de (Peter J. Weyers) Subject: Re: PGP filter for pine 3.92 Date: 25 Mar 1996 10:10:51 GMT Message-Id: <4j5rfb$j2r@dscomsa.desy.de> References: <4is8nn$4h8@spinnaker.rhein.de> Mats Arvendal (mats@ts.umu.se) wrote: : You could add your own emailaddress to sending-filters, this way you can : read the copy in the sent-mail folder. either you could enable encrypt-to-self in the PGP config.txt. Gives the same result Peter ____________ ------- | | ---------------------------------------------------- | H E R A | Peter J. Weyers | ___---| |___--- |||| DESY -F15- Geb. 62 Phone: +40-8998-3561 ___--- -- |||| Notkestrasse 85 Fax : -8998-2950(expected) ----------[ ]-------| D - 22603 Hamburg -8994-4306(not " ) | -- B | '____________' http://sugra.desy.de/user/weyers/home.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 03:55:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18130; Mon, 25 Mar 96 03:55:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00803; Mon, 25 Mar 96 03:40:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00795; Mon, 25 Mar 96 03:40:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1Aad-00038UC; Mon, 25 Mar 96 03:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: weyers@sugra.desy.de (Peter J. Weyers) Subject: Re: Problem with Pico editor Date: 25 Mar 1996 10:14:09 GMT Message-Id: <4j5rlh$j2r@dscomsa.desy.de> References: <4j5oi2$pob@newnews.iafrica.com> Deon de Villiers (tsunix@iafrica.com) wrote: : Hi All : I have recently downloaded and compiled the pico editor. It is just : what I was looking for - nice and easy for new users. : I have two issues I would like some help on. : 1. The help tells me that Ctrl-^ is used to select text. I cannot : seem to get this right Maybe the character is caught by your Terminals(server). You could type <^> instead of . (Works with any control character in pico) : 2. How does one overtype characters (ie. vi's replace mode). Don't know, I believe you can't. Peter ____________ ------- | | ---------------------------------------------------- | H E R A | Peter J. Weyers | ___---| |___--- |||| DESY -F15- Geb. 62 Phone: +40-8998-3561 ___--- -- |||| Notkestrasse 85 Fax : -8998-2950(expected) ----------[ ]-------| D - 22603 Hamburg -8994-4306(not " ) | -- B | '____________' http://sugra.desy.de/user/weyers/home.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 03:58:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18889; Mon, 25 Mar 96 03:58:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14983; Mon, 25 Mar 96 03:40:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14977; Mon, 25 Mar 96 03:40:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1Aae-00038VC; Mon, 25 Mar 96 03:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kravietz@pipeta.chemia.pk.edu.pl (Pawel Krawczyk) Subject: Re: Q: PGP support in Pine Message-Id: References: <4j0dl5$63k@tbone.biol.sc.edu> <4j3asm$f2@knobel.gun.de> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:32:38 GMT Andreas Klemm (andreas@knobel.gun.de) wrote: : I'd suggest the following solution for pgpdecode. Everything : will be written to /tmp, so this script is suitable for everyone : on a multiuser system and to secure the temp-files in /tmp, : the umask will be set, so that the permissions are secure : (rw-------). : umask 077 : trap "rm -f /tmp/pgpdecode.???.$$; exit" 0 1 2 15 : (pgp -f > /tmp/pgpdecode.txt.$$) 2>&1 | tee /tmp/pgpdecode.pgp.$$ 1>&2 : sed -e 's/^/| /' /tmp/pgpdecode.pgp.$$ : echo " " : cat /tmp/pgpdecode.txt.$$ Using $HOME/tmp would be probably safer, and more logical. This is the directory usually defined as TEMP in .pgprc. -- Pawel Krawczyk, FidoNet: 2:486/18.4 email: kravietz@pipeta.chemia.pk.edu.pl Location: Cracow, Poland, PGP key available on finger From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 03:58:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18996; Mon, 25 Mar 96 03:58:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00789; Mon, 25 Mar 96 03:40:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00783; Mon, 25 Mar 96 03:40:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1Aaa-00038FC; Mon, 25 Mar 96 03:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: weyers@sugra.desy.de (Peter J. Weyers) Subject: Re: Mail-forwarding? Date: 25 Mar 1996 10:06:16 GMT Message-Id: <4j5r6o$j2r@dscomsa.desy.de> References: <4iq3h0$72@mckinley.cit.macalstr.edu> <4j4itq$t2g@shellx.best.com> Meyer Boswell Books Inc. (meyerbos@shellx.best.com) wrote: : After you do what is below, then how do you tell people who are writing : you at the old address that you have a new one, I mean, automatically? On UNIX systems, have a look at "man vacation". Peter ____________ ------- | | ---------------------------------------------------- | H E R A | Peter J. Weyers | ___---| |___--- |||| DESY -F15- Geb. 62 Phone: +40-8998-3561 ___--- -- |||| Notkestrasse 85 Fax : -8998-2950(expected) ----------[ ]-------| D - 22603 Hamburg -8994-4306(not " ) | -- B | '____________' http://sugra.desy.de/user/weyers/home.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 04:28:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28861; Mon, 25 Mar 96 04:28:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03102; Mon, 25 Mar 96 04:22:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from epos.easynet.co.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03088; Mon, 25 Mar 96 04:22:14 -0800 Received: (from clive@localhost) by epos.easynet.co.uk (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA03506; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 04:06:34 GMT Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 04:06:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Clive Messer To: Ezra Van Everbroeck Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 and Linux problems In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 22 Mar 1996, Ezra Van Everbroeck wrote: > On Fri, 22 Mar 1996, Hynek Med wrote: > > > On 21 Mar 1996, Ashok Aiyar wrote: > > > > > The precompiled Pine binary does the exact same thing. The problems > > > are not unique to my system, but seem to occur on other systems > > > running sendmail-8.7.x. I am going to test the new Pine with > > > Sendmail-8.6.x next ...... > > > > I have same problems on sendmail 8.6.12, kernel 1.2.13, both with the > > pre-compiled and myself-compiled version, on both Linuxes I tried. > > I am afraid that I don't know what's causing your problems, but Pine 3.92 > (self-compiled on this 1.2.13 machine) works fine with my sendmail 8.7.5. > Have you checked the permissions of the relevant files and directories? Or > tried increasing the debugging level of sendmail? It's not a problem with permissions. ;-) The following from Linux 1.3.77, libc-5.3.7, sendmail-8.6.5 ...... Mar 25 03:33:38 epos sendmail[3180]: DAA03180: from=root, size=426, class=0, pri=426, nrcpts=0, msgid=, relay=root@localhost Mar 25 03:33:38 epos sendmail[3180]: DAA03180: DAB03180: postmaster notify: root... Recipient names must be specified Mar 25 03:33:38 epos sendmail[3182]: DAB03180: to=root, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, stat=Sent 03165 >>> 220 epos.easynet.co.uk ESMTP Sendmail 8.7.5/8.7.3; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 03:31:44 GMT 03165 <<< HELO epos.easynet.co.uk 03165 >>> 250 epos.easynet.co.uk Hello root@epos.easynet.co.uk [193.131.249.152], pleased to meet you 03165 <<< RSET 03165 >>> 250 Reset state 03165 <<< MAIL FROM: 03167 >>> 250 ... Sender ok 03167 <<< [EOF] 03167 >>> 421 epos.easynet.co.uk Lost input channel from root@epos.easynet.co.uk [193.131.249.152] I'm afraid my C skills are not upto much. Anyone care to look at the code ???? Clive. -- C Messer. Epos Systems. UK. | | "I pressed her thigh and death smiled." | Jim Morrison. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 05:07:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12115; Mon, 25 Mar 96 05:07:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05001; Mon, 25 Mar 96 04:58:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hermes.dur.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04989; Mon, 25 Mar 96 04:57:48 -0800 Received: from venus by hermes.dur.ac.uk id (8.6.12/ for dur.ac.uk) with SMTP; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 12:57:37 GMT Received: from hercules by venus id ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 12:57:36 GMT Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 12:57:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Barry Cornelius To: Alan Robiette Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Filters in Pine 3.92 In-Reply-To: <4j5ume$pmc@crocus.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 25 Mar 1996, Alan Robiette wrote: > Has anyone managed to get the new filter options to work in Pine 3.92 > yet? I can't seem to get either the display or the sending filter to > do anything. I guess it's just my failure to understand the syntax > required in .pinerc to set them up, but if someone could post an example > I'd really appreciate it. I have: display-filters=_LEADING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----")_ /usr/local/bin/pgp sending-filters=/usr/local/bin/pgp -fats - -- Barry Cornelius Telephone: (0191 or +44 191) 374 4717 Applications Division, IT Service, IT Service Office: 374 2892 Science Site, University of Durham, Fax: 374 3741 Durham, DH1 3LE, UK E-mail: Barry.Cornelius@durham.ac.uk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMVaYNKGgSldA40uVAQErAwP9EKx0uuAZpEr858+Qka9taS45GwmjbHLS XmVFUBsYADC7udW8A26hO8qzm30r570bf2w5WMuApdgd4PegjxHylN8UjU6GM8kl uj5zaISdHIreDOiGptJo/yhN1cVF/a93AIVYUQ2XZJK55F3ae7IeA3QboIBTqJEJ SoIouHOgIKU= =oFlR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 07:40:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29102; Mon, 25 Mar 96 07:40:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12830; Mon, 25 Mar 96 07:30:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12824; Mon, 25 Mar 96 07:30:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1EAV-00038TC; Mon, 25 Mar 96 07:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lfasano@foreigner (Ing. Luis Antonio Fasano B.) Subject: USERDB & PINE Date: 23 Mar 1996 17:42:58 GMT Message-Id: <4j1d72$1gf@news.mty.itesm.mx> Well i have this problem with the userdb database. I have some declarations as this one lfasano:mailname Luis_Fasano@campus.mty.itesm.mx my problem is that whenever i send a mail using the mail command or with elm, the replacement is done, but when i send a mail using pine it is not. IS there anyway to modificate the rule or database to make these change even if sending through pine??? Is there any definition in pinerc which may help with this??? I've read the manuals and havent found anything about it. Any pointer???? Thanks in advance Luis pd. BTW Im doing the database using the makemap btree command... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 07:40:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29156; Mon, 25 Mar 96 07:40:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27038; Mon, 25 Mar 96 07:30:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27032; Mon, 25 Mar 96 07:30:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1EDu-00038UC; Mon, 25 Mar 96 07:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: meyerbos@shellx.best.com (Meyer Boswell Books Inc.) Subject: Transferring address books to new provider Date: 23 Mar 1996 08:40:58 -0800 Message-Id: <4j19iq$ph4@shellx.best.com> I am transferring my Internet account from one service provider (Netcom) to another (Best). Is there a way to save and transfer over my long and carefully constructed address book at Netcom, so I don't have to start all over at Best? Also, I have begun a new address book at Best. Is there anyway to append the Netcom address book to it, rather than subbing in the Netcom for the Best? I would rather not lose the new one at Best if I don't have to. Many thanks, Joe Luttrell From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 08:24:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12608; Mon, 25 Mar 96 08:24:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29571; Mon, 25 Mar 96 08:13:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from homer25.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29565; Mon, 25 Mar 96 08:13:55 -0800 Received: from localhost by homer25.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA34484; Mon, 25 Mar 96 08:13:54 -0800 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 08:13:54 -0800 (PST) From: Joseph Heim To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: control-c problem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When in the middle of responding to a message, I am unable to get the ^C option to work with the 3.92a version of PINE. Therefore, I am unable to "get out of" a message to which I have decided not to respond. This option worked previously. Professor Joseph A. Heim Voice: (206) 543-2308 Industrial Engineering, Box 352650 FAX: (206) 685-3072 University of Washington, Seattle WA 98195-2650 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 08:37:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16675; Mon, 25 Mar 96 08:37:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15968; Mon, 25 Mar 96 08:26:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15954; Mon, 25 Mar 96 08:26:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1F1o-00038FC; Mon, 25 Mar 96 08:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: weyers@sugra.desy.de (Peter J. Weyers) Subject: Re: PGP interface for Pine 3.92? Date: 23 Mar 1996 17:13:27 GMT Message-Id: <4j1bfo$h5q@dscomsa.desy.de> References: <4iuiga$44o@sunti1.sdm.de> : I think it would be better to have entries like this: : "PGP encrypt" /usr/local/bin/pgp -feast : "PGP sign" /usr/local/bin/pgp -fast : Pine could show only the quoted string. This would make it very easy to : distinguish the different filters. : Comments? I totaly agree. I think, writing scripts to distingish the filter-action is a workaround, not a solution. Peter ____________ ------- | | ---------------------------------------------------- | H E R A | Peter J. Weyers | ___---| |___--- |||| DESY -F15- Geb. 62 Phone: +40-8998-3561 ___--- -- |||| Notkestrasse 85 Fax : -8998-2950(expected) ----------[ ]-------| D - 22603 Hamburg -8994-4306(not " ) | -- B | '____________' http://sugra.desy.de/user/weyers/home.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 08:39:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17525; Mon, 25 Mar 96 08:39:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00364; Mon, 25 Mar 96 08:26:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00358; Mon, 25 Mar 96 08:26:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1F4K-00038UC; Mon, 25 Mar 96 08:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fredr@rivertown.net (Fred Ringel) Subject: Re: Mail-forwarding? Message-Id: References: <4iq3h0$72@mckinley.cit.macalstr.edu> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 23:04:13 GMT On Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:14:07 GMT, Jonathan C. Willeke shared the bits and bytes to sput as follows: : I was hoping there'd be an FAQ on the subject, and maybe there is, : but its location is not obvious. Can someone tell me how to get PINE : to forward all mail from one account to another? Specifically, I have : an account with a freenet that uses PINE, and I want to forward all : that mail to a college account until I graduate in May. Thanks. : --Jon Gee, I thought I had posted on this one already. Simply put a ".forward" account in your home directory with the new e-mail address in it. Don't forget the "." in front of the name of the file. Fred ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Fred B. Ringel Rivertown.Net Systems Administrator P.O. Box 532 and General Fixer-upper Hastings, New York 10706 Voice/Support: 914.478.2885 Data: 914-478-4988 Westchester's Rivertown's Full Service Flat-Rate Internet Access Provider From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 08:58:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23480; Mon, 25 Mar 96 08:58:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01890; Mon, 25 Mar 96 08:48:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hermes.cti.gr by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01794; Mon, 25 Mar 96 08:47:25 -0800 Received: (from dimakop@localhost) by hermes.cti.gr (8.7.4/8.7.3) id SAA23715; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:45:10 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:45:10 +0200 (EET) From: Dimakopoulos Panagiotis To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Attachment comment cannot have 8bit chars Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-1483920592-827772019=:23667" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-1483920592-827772019=:23667 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Pine 3.92 does not seem to be able to handle 8 bit characters in the attachment comment. When the comment includes 8 bit chars (for instance greek chars of the ISO-8859-7 char set) they arrive destroyed (I think they arrive with their eighth bit stripped) at the other end no matter if 8 bit or MIME encoding has been requested from the configuration menu. Thank you, ------------------------------------------------------ | Panos Dimakopoulos dimakop@cti.gr | | COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY INSTITUTE | | P.O. Box 1122 | | 261 10 Patras, Greece | | Tel (+30) 61 992061, 994317 Fax (+30) 61 993973 | ------------------------------------------------------ ---559023410-1483920592-827772019=:23667-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 09:34:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03433; Mon, 25 Mar 96 09:34:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19488; Mon, 25 Mar 96 09:21:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hermes.dur.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19470; Mon, 25 Mar 96 09:21:21 -0800 Received: from venus by hermes.dur.ac.uk id (8.6.12/ for dur.ac.uk) with SMTP; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 17:21:18 GMT Received: from hercules by venus id ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 17:21:17 GMT Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 17:20:59 +0000 (GMT) From: Barry Cornelius To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: LONG: Some other documentation on Pine 3.92 (and Pico 2.6) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- 1. Introduction Last Tuesday, new versions of Pine (3.92) and Pico (2.6) were released by the Pine Development Team at the University of Washington. Since it has been 17 months since the Pine Development Team have released a new version of Pine, numerous changes have appeared. However, there are few changes that affect the "novice user". Most of the changes are additional bells-and-whistles for so-called "power users". Full details of these changes are given in Pine 3.92's Release Notes (which are available by pressing R from the main menu of Pine 3.92). You can also get a lot of useful information by pressing the ? key whilst browsing through Pine's Configuration Screen. The remainder of this message contains part of a document that I originally prepared for internal consumption at the University of Durham. I have sent it to this mailing list just in case it is of interest to others. It essentially contains my personal view of the most useful changes, and how they may be used. The message is subdivided as follows: 2. Controlling the way in which Pine displays information 3. Additional facilities whilst composing messages 4. Improvements in printing messages 5. Changes to Usenet News 6. Additional facilities for aggregate commands 7. Facilities that can be used in the X Window System 8. Some other new facilities I hope that it does not contain any errors. Let me know if you find some. 2. Controlling the way in which Pine displays information 2.1 Displaying MIME attachments Given an attachment containing some file, Pine uses mime-types files to map from the file's extension to a content-type and mailcap files to map from the content-type to a viewer. You can therefore use these two facilities to start a viewer (e.g., xv) automatically if the attachment has a certain file extension (e.g., jpeg). Pine has standard locations for the mime-types and mailcap files: for example, any user can use configure their own viewers using the files ~/.mime.types and ~/.mailcap. 2.2 Displaying information in an addressbook In Pine 3.92, you can control the layout of the addressbook by the changing the value of the addressbook-formats variable. Its default setting is: NICKNAME FULLNAME ADDRESS An addressbook also has a COMMENT and an FCC field. If you add additional information in the COMMENT field of each addressbook entry, then you could get this information displayed by setting this variable to: NICKNAME FULLNAME(25) ADDRESS COMMENT 2.3 Displaying the index of a folder In Pine 3.92, you can control the layout of the index of a folder by the changing the value of the index-format variable. Its default setting is: STATUS MSGNO DATE FROMORTO(33%) SIZE SUBJECT(67%) 3. Additional facilities whilst composing messages 3.1 Controlling the column at which Pine's composer wraps lines In Pine 3.92, you can set the column at which Pine's composer wraps long lines. This is done by setting the composer-wrap-column variable. 3.2 Giving ^K the same meaning as in emacs (and elsewhere) In Pine 3.91, pressing ^K means delete the contents of the current line (unless a "mark" has been set). In 3.92, you can configure Pine to delete from the cursor position to the end of the current line (as is done in emacs and elsewhere). You do this by adding: compose-cut-from-cursor to the feature-list variable. The emacs-effect only seems to work in the body of the message: it has its old effect in the headers of a message and when using the new version of Pico (Pico 2.6) in stand-alone mode. 3.3 Composing a message with 8-bit characters In Pine 3.92, when composing a message you can type in an 8-bit character by typing the 5 characters ESC ESC d d d, where ESC is the escape key and the "d d d" are three decimal digits for the character. For example, if the resulting message is viewed on an ISO-8859-1 device, then the meaning of the three decimal digit values 231 to 235 are c-cedilla, e-grave, e-acute, e-circumflex and e-umlaut. This facility is also available in the new version of Pico (Pico 2.6). 3.4 Editing your .signature file from within Pine In Pine 3.92, you can edit the file containing your signature by pressing S followed by S from the main menu. 4. Improvements in printing messages 4.1 Setting up your own print commands In Pine, the Select Printer screen is obtained by pressing S followed by P from the main menu. In 3.91, there were three printing methods: attached-to-ansi, the standard Unix print command (lp) or a personal print command. And you used either 1, 2 or 3 to select the default printing method. With 3.92, there is an attached-to-ansi-no-formfeed as well as attached-to-ansi, and you can add as many personal printing commands as you wish. If you want to add a new personal printing method, move the cursor so that "Personally selected print command" is highlighted and then press A. Pine then asks you for the printer name. This need not be a "printer name": it is really a name to identify this printing method. So, it can be any name: it can indeed be the name of a printer, some nickname for the printing method (e.g., "twoup" or "upstairs"), or it can be left empty. Terminate the "printer name" with the Enter key. It will then ask you to enter the command to be used for this printing method (followed by Enter). This may be any Unix command or the special commands attached-to-ansi or attached-to-ansi-no-formfeed. You can repeat this A command as often as you wish, and in this way you build up a list of personal printing methods. In order to select the default printing method, you don't use 1, 2 or 3 as in Pine 3.91: instead you use the cursor-moving keys to highlight the method and then press the S key. If your default is one of the personal printing methods, then when you issue the Y command (to print), it will ask you whether you want to print using this method. However, in the menu at the bottom of the screen, as well as "Y Yes" and "N No" you will also see ^P and ^N. If you decline by pressing ^P or ^N instead of Y, it will display the previous/next printing method in your list of personal printing methods, and you will now be given an opportunity to print using this printing method. Normally, it will prompt you with the "printer name": however, if, when configuring your list of personal printing methods, you entered an empty "printer name", then it will prompt you with the actual Unix command that will be used. For this reason, you may find it helpful to have empty "printer names". 4.2 Choosing the Unix command line when you come to print In Pine 3.92, you can add: print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt to the feature-list variable, and when you issue the Y command (to print) the menu at the bottom of the screen will have an additional choice "C CustomPrint" besides "Y Yes" and "N No". If you press C, you can type in any Unix command (to print the message). 5. Changes to Usenet News 5.1 Replying to an article of a newsgroup In Pine 3.92, using R to reply to an article of a newsgroup asks you to press F to follow-up to the newsgroup, R to reply to the author of the article, or B to do both. This is clearer than the method used in Pine 3.91. 5.2 Finding out which articles are new If you would like Pine 3.92 to mark more-or-less recent new articles of a Usenet News newsgroups, then add: news-approximates-new-status to the feature-list variable. Note that this is an approximation, and not an exact record of which messages you have not seen. 6. Additional facilities for aggregate commands 6.1 A short-cut for tagging the current message and moving to the next In Pine 3.91, when in the index of a folder, a ; followed by C followed by cursor-down done repeatedly will "tag" consecutive messages. In 3.92, this three character sequence can be done by just pressing the : key. Note: both ; and : are illegal unless you have added enable-aggregate-command-set to the feature-list variable. 6.2 Printing messages that have been tagged In Pine 3.91, after using the ; command to tag some messages, you can use the apply command to do a command to each of the tagged messages. One of the possibilities is to print the set of messages. If you do this, the messages will be printed without any formfeed between the messages. In 3.92, if you want a formfeed between messages, then add: print-formfeed-between-messages to the feature-list variable. 7. Facilities that can be used in the X Window System 7.1 Using the mouse to select In Pine 3.92, you can add: enable-mouse-in-xterm to the feature-list variable. You will then be able to use the mouse for some purposes if you are using Pine in an xterm window (but not in CDE's dtterm window). In particular, when you have a folder-index displayed you can select a message using the mouse, and when composing a message you can use the mouse to say where on the screen you want to type. 7.2 Finding out what new mail has arrived In Pine 3.92, you can add: enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon to the feature-list variable and, if you iconise an xterm window containing a Pine session, then the icon will be altered if new mail arrives. 8. Some other new facilities 8.1 Finding out what commands you have executed In Pine 3.92, the main menu has a J command (meaning "journal") that enables you to see what commands you have executed. This may prove useful when trying to solve a user's problem. 8.2 Controlling where Pine saves messages In Pine 3.92, there is a saved-msg-name-rule that determines the default folder name for Pine's S ("save") command. You can choose between default-folder, last-folder-used, by-from, by-sender, by-recipient, by-nick-of-from, by-nick-of-sender, by-nick-of-recip, by-fcc-of-from, by-fcc-of-sender, or by-fcc-of-recip. The default is default-folder which means using the saved-messages folder. By-from falls back to by-sender if there is no from, and vice versa for by-sender. By-recipient will use the newsgroup name if it was posted to a newsgroup. The by-nick... forms are like the same forms without the by-nick except that the resulting address is looked up in the user's address books and if it is found, the nickname for that entry is used. The by-fcc... forms act in a similar way except that the fcc from the address books is used instead. 8.3 Using PGP with Pine In Pine 3.92, in order to add a digital signature to outgoing messages, you can set sending-filters to be: /usr/local/bin/pgp -fats You can also add: compose-send-offers-first-filter to the feature-list variable if you wish. In order to run pgp on messages that you are viewing (i.e., other people's messages), you can set display-filters variable to be: _LEADING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----")_ /usr/local/bin/pgp Although I am happy with the outgoing bit, I would like more control over the display-filters: (a) it's difficult to see what pgp is telling me --- it leaves the screen too quickly, (b) it would be nice to be able to toggle display-filtering on and off. Having said that, these hooks in 3.92 that enable digital signatures to be done a lot easier are very useful. 8.4 Determining whether a message has been sent by you Pine 3.92 has an alt-addresses variable. This variable can be set to other e-mail addresses which identify the current user in addition to something like dxy3abc@altair.dur.ac.uk. At Durham, this will be something like A.B.Customer@durham.ac.uk and A.B.Customer@dur.ac.uk. - From Pine 3.05 to Pine 3.91, we made local modifications to the source of Pine that involved the use of a file called ~/.pinerc_extra to store these additional e-mail addresses. So, in Pine 3.92, all this code can be removed and the alt-addresses variable used instead. So Durham's startup script for Pine now sets up an environment variable that is used by Pine's pine.conf file to set up the alt-addresses variable. - -- Barry Cornelius Telephone: (0191 or +44 191) 374 4717 Applications Division, IT Service, IT Service Office: 374 2892 Science Site, University of Durham, Fax: 374 3741 Durham, DH1 3LE, UK E-mail: Barry.Cornelius@durham.ac.uk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMVbWAKGgSldA40uVAQExDQP/XkinSEaHNm04IctRBbshWH98sU+bHsAX ilsQ/u2ZUzNiM6gbIhXYjCjg3BKUQ1LcjEQzXLEBhh64v+Dj/Hk9agnyVa+e7kDv jqe42sOa4NfFZG3i98srzmJgsQxpAEvCtSheH2UY5edgX/BZhNzyeCeZfKCNPVVr 5vdD8NzqKYU= =yuhD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 09:38:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03586; Mon, 25 Mar 96 09:38:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04304; Mon, 25 Mar 96 09:26:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hermes.cti.gr by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04262; Mon, 25 Mar 96 09:26:09 -0800 Received: (from dimakop@localhost) by hermes.cti.gr (8.7.4/8.7.3) id TAA23804; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 19:23:39 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 19:23:38 +0200 (EET) From: Dimakopoulos Panagiotis To: Pine Developers Cc: Komninos Thodoros , Siahos Giannis , theodor@cti.gr, Stathakopoulos Giorgos , Pan.Dimakopoulos@cti.gr, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Sug (ID Q26RT): Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-1141662977-827774618=:23667" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-1141662977-827774618=:23667 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I do not think that pine 3.92 handles properly messages with 8 bit chars which are supposed to be part of a specific char set such as ISO-8859-7 (greek chars) which I used for my experiments. The point is that when we choose to set on or off the two configuration options [ ] enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation [ ] enable-8bit-nntp-posting from the setup menu the encodings do not follow the encodings implied by the above settings in all the configurations. To tell such cases more precisely I have dome experiments where: 1. I have tried to post a news article with greek chars both on the subject and in the body. When an nntp server is not specified then pine uses the "inews" utility which knows where to post the article. In this case, no matter what was the setting of enable-8bit-nntp-posting the message arrived encoded in MIME on the host which collects the news postings for our LAN. Certainly that was not a problem of the local configuration because I used inews manually and it DID post an 8bit article to the server by keeping the 8 bits both in the body and in the subject. 2. As a follow-up of the previous experiment I set the nntp-server from the configuration menu and I repeated the same procedure. In that case the message encoding was following the [ ] enable-8bit-nntp-posting value but only for the body and not for the Subject which arrived MIME encoded all the time. 3. Also when there is no smtp-server (which keeps the name of the mail relay) defined then the mail arrives always MIME encoded no matter whether [ ] enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation is set or not. Definitely it is not because of the flags the sendmail is called by pine with. My personal view is that when we ask for an 8 bit transmission the message should arrive at the final host in 8 bits no matter if a mail relay intervenes in the journey or not. I had a look in the code and I realised that indeed the F_ENABLE_8BIT flag is not checked for all cases of transmission. As an attempt to prove to myself that the problem was inside pine I made some modifications to the code (only in file send.c) which I am including as an attachment to this mail. And this seemms to work fine for all the above cases that I have talked about before. I am not issuing this as an official patch - I just send it to you as a possible help for the points where further encoding or encoding prevention is necessary. I hope I have not misunderstood something for all the above behaviour. Thank you, ------------------------------------------------------ | Panos Dimakopoulos dimakop@cti.gr | | COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY INSTITUTE | | P.O. 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unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 10:17:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05403; Mon, 25 Mar 96 10:17:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21291; Mon, 25 Mar 96 10:09:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mach1.wlu.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21283; Mon, 25 Mar 96 10:09:39 -0800 Received: by mach1.wlu.ca (5.65/1.35) id AA20617; Mon, 25 Mar 96 13:08:20 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 13:08:18 -0500 (EST) From: Neal Santin u Subject: Taking CC's into a list. To: pine info list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it possible to take the addresses in the CC field (when receiving a message) and create a distribution list from it? (I've only been able to export the message and then import the header into the .addressbook and make some small layout changes, I was hoping there was an easier way) Please reply to me as I dont check the list too often, Thank you. Neal ---- Sant2240@mach1.wlu.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 10:37:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06721; Mon, 25 Mar 96 10:37:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21524; Mon, 25 Mar 96 10:19:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from onyx.arts.kuleuven.ac.be by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21512; Mon, 25 Mar 96 10:18:49 -0800 Received: from localhost (ezra@localhost) by onyx.arts.kuleuven.ac.be (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id TAA01071; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 19:17:44 +0100 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 19:17:43 +0100 (GMT+0100) From: Ezra Van Everbroeck To: Clive Messer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 and Linux problems In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Address: Ierse-Predikherenstraat 81; B-3000 Leuven; BELGIUM X-Message: Legolandimiinnikuuvutimmaa ilaa? X-Translation: You've been to Legoland - haven't you? Organization: Faculty of Arts - K.U. Leuven Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 25 Mar 1996, Clive Messer wrote: > > Have you checked the permissions of the relevant files and directories? Or > > tried increasing the debugging level of sendmail? > > It's not a problem with permissions. ;-) > > The following from Linux 1.3.77, libc-5.3.7, sendmail-8.6.5 ...... [snip] I don't know whether this will also solve your problem, but I got another reply which says: From: Ashok Aiyar Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 and Linux problems |Thank you for your message. I sat down and debugged the sendmail |session ... and figured it out. I do not run stock sendmail, but |a slightly modified version that does telnet detects (telnet to |ebv.oncology.wisc.edu, port 25 to see what I mean), and had to |modify my code marginally. Since Pine 3.91 sends mail by using |"sendmail -t -oi -oem", while Pine 3.92 uses "sendmail -bs -odb -oem", |this problem manifested only with Pine 3.92. You don't happen to be running a modified version of sendmail as well? Cheers, Ezra Ezra Van Everbroeck - - Centre for Computational Linguistics 1972 - - Mbuji-Mayi - -- - ezra@ccl.kuleuven.ac.be - K.U.Leuven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 11:09:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08250; Mon, 25 Mar 96 11:09:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22793; Mon, 25 Mar 96 11:01:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22787; Mon, 25 Mar 96 11:01:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1HSF-00038FC; Mon, 25 Mar 96 10:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "MAS Inc." Subject: Re: [Q] "-->" in Index Why? Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 10:52:10 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3154AF95.74A4@aar-vki.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3154AF95.74A4@aar-vki.dk> I don't have Pine 3.92 for Win95, but in Unix Pine 3.91 to turn on highlighting of selected headers, go into Setup, choose Config, and check the feature "show-selected-in-boldface." But I will defer to a more knowledgeable person. ---MAS Inc. email: masi@teleport.com 15050 SW Koll Parkway, Suite C web: http://www.teleport.com/~masi Beaverton, OR 97006 phone: (503) 641-6200 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 11:50:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10391; Mon, 25 Mar 96 11:50:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24140; Mon, 25 Mar 96 11:46:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24134; Mon, 25 Mar 96 11:46:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1IBR-00038TC; Mon, 25 Mar 96 11:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: leich@papin.HRZ.Uni-Marburg.DE (Steffen Leich) Subject: Imapd and shadow-passwords Date: 25 Mar 1996 13:22:55 GMT Message-Id: <4j66nf$kcr@surz03fi.HRZ.Uni-Marburg.DE> Hi, does anyone have a solution for using the imap-system along with a shadowed Linux (1.2.13 / Slackware 3.0)? Thanks Steffen -- _____________________________________________________ Steffen Leich Universitaet Marburg leich@mailer.uni-marburg.de leich@wiwi.uni-marburg.de http://www.wiwi.uni-marburg.de/perl.exe?scripts/sl.pl From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 11:56:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10728; Mon, 25 Mar 96 11:56:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08894; Mon, 25 Mar 96 11:46:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08888; Mon, 25 Mar 96 11:46:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1IBR-00038FC; Mon, 25 Mar 96 11:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schmitz@ro.coma.sbg.ac.at (Peter Schmitzberger) Subject: Re: Select (?) Date: 25 Mar 1996 14:05:01 GMT Message-Id: <4j696d$vo@dwst13.wst.edvz.sbg.ac.at> References: William G. S. Brown (brownwm@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu) wrote: > I'd like to select a group of messages for a common action (e.g. Save, Delete > etc) then, once selected, apply the common action. My help screen seems to > imply that the ";" can be used for Select and A for action. This can't be > right because Pine tells me that ";" is not allowed on the screen that > shows the folder contents. > > Any ideas? Thanks. enter Setup -> Configuration and select enable-aggregate-command-set from the feature-list. Peter -- | Peter Schmitzberger, Univ. of Salzburg, Austria | R I S T + + | | http://www.coma.sbg.ac.at/~schmitz/ | schmitz@coma.sbg.ac.at | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 13:07:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14523; Mon, 25 Mar 96 13:07:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10850; Mon, 25 Mar 96 13:01:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10844; Mon, 25 Mar 96 13:01:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1JLT-00038FC; Mon, 25 Mar 96 12:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: minam@netvision.net.il Subject: Trouble Quiting & Deleting marked Msgs Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 22:14:35 -0800 Message-Id: <3154E84B.6F0A@netvision.net.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When trying to delete and expunge messages from pine/windows the screen seems to freeze up and then a minute late the telephone line disconnects. The pinedebug file says "Pine 25F7 did not call "WSACleanup." Can anyone help? Many thanks in advance. Eliezer minam@netvision.net.il From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 13:34:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15769; Mon, 25 Mar 96 13:34:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27075; Mon, 25 Mar 96 13:21:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27061; Mon, 25 Mar 96 13:21:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1JhT-00038FC; Mon, 25 Mar 96 13:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu (Dean Pentcheff) Subject: Re: Q: PGP support in Pine Date: 23 Mar 1996 03:44:21 -0500 Message-Id: <4j0dl5$63k@tbone.biol.sc.edu> References: kravietz@pipeta.chemia.pk.edu.pl (Pawel Krawczyk) writes: >Will ever Pine have support for PGP? I mean internal support, not >patches like mkpgp. The most recently released version (3.92) has an excellent set of hooks for PGP support I have adapted the following series of scripts to do the job. They were posted here a couple of days ago (the original author's name and address is in the scripts). They make it very, very painless to use PGP: ---------- pgpdecode --------- #!/bin/sh # 21.03.96 Roland Rosenfeld trap "rm -f /home/dean/.tmp/pgpdecode.???.$$; exit" 0 1 2 15 (pgp -f > /home/dean/.tmp/pgpdecode.txt.$$) 2>&1 | tee /home/dean/.tmp/pgpdecode.pgp.$$ 1>&2 sed -e 's/^/| /' /home/dean/.tmp/pgpdecode.pgp.$$ echo " " cat /home/dean/.tmp/pgpdecode.txt.$$ ---------- pgpencrypt --------- #!/bin/sh # 21.03.96 Roland Rosenfeld pgp -feast $* ---------- pgpsign --------- #!/bin/sh # 21.03.96 Roland Rosenfeld pgp -fast ---------- .pinerc --------- # List of features; see Pine's Setup/options menu for the current set. # e.g. feature-list= select-without-confirm, signature-at-bottom # Default condition for all of the features is no-. feature-list=compose-send-offers-first-filter # This variable takes a list of programs that message text is piped into # after MIME decoding, prior to display. display-filters="-----BEGIN PGP" /home/dean/bin/pgpdecode # This defines a program that message text is piped into before MIME # encoding, prior to sending sending-filters=/home/dean/bin/pgpsign, /home/dean/bin/pgpencrypt _RECIPIENTS_ -- N. Dean Pentcheff WWW: http://tbone.biol.sc.edu/~dean/ Biological Sciences, Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29208 (803-777-3936) PGP ID=768/22A1A015 Keyprint=2D 53 87 53 72 4A F2 83 A0 BF CB C0 D1 0E 76 C0 Get PGP keys and information with the command: "finger dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 13:56:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16624; Mon, 25 Mar 96 13:56:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12463; Mon, 25 Mar 96 13:51:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12457; Mon, 25 Mar 96 13:51:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1K7g-00038TC; Mon, 25 Mar 96 13:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stock@acsu.buffalo.edu (Matthew D Stock) Subject: news authentication in 3.92 Date: 25 Mar 1996 20:20:25 GMT Message-Id: <4j6v69$gen@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu> At long last, pine has authentication support, which means that it may not be used as a newsreader at our site. Unfortunately, I can't seem to get it to function. From what I can tell by browsing the code, if pine notices a 480 response from the server, it should prompt me for a username and password to use to authenticate myself. This doesn't seem to happen, and I get the "480 Authentication required" message on the screen. I wasn't able to find any documentation on how to get this to work. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks, -Matt From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 14:05:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17055; Mon, 25 Mar 96 14:05:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28173; Mon, 25 Mar 96 14:01:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28167; Mon, 25 Mar 96 14:01:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1KKM-00038FC; Mon, 25 Mar 96 14:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Nugent Subject: Pine-OS/2 3.92 uploaded to hobbes.nmsu.edu Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:54:15 GMT pine392.zip has been uploaded to hobbes.nmsu.edu:/incoming. This is a port of the UNIX Pine mailer to OS/2 2.x and Warp 3.x. Included are many fixes for the previous binary release for OS/2 (3.91) and a large number of enhancements and additions. To those who helped test the beta version and submitted reports, thank you for your time and trouble. -- David Nugent, Microsystems Technical Support Unique Computing Pty Limited, Melbourne, Australia PC/LAN/UNIX Communications Software Development From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 14:52:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19230; Mon, 25 Mar 96 14:52:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29380; Mon, 25 Mar 96 14:48:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29374; Mon, 25 Mar 96 14:48:33 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06968; Mon, 25 Mar 96 14:47:37 -0800 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 14:47:37 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Christophe Caron , =?iso-8859-1?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= Cc: Pine News Group Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 and user root : update .pinerc ? bug ? In-Reply-To: <4iu9lk$4h5@saphir.jouy.inra.fr> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-329687705-827794057=:6703" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-329687705-827794057=:6703 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes, this is a bug. I've attached a context diff for those who'd like to fix it in the source, and, of course, it will be fixed in 3.93. The bug doesn't happen on all systems, so if you haven't seen it, don't worry about fixing it. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On 22 Mar 1996, Christophe Caron wrote: > Hi, > > On HP/UX and Solaris 2.4 with pine 3.92 > > when user root uses pine , i have > [Error saving configuration in file "/.pinerc": No such file or directory] > > when pine try to update /.pinerc. --0-329687705-827794057=:6703 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=x Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: diff for pine/osdep/tempnam KioqIHRlbXBuYW0uZGlzdAlNb24gTWFyIDI1IDE0OjQxOjE4IDE5OTYNCi0t LSB0ZW1wbmFtLm5ldwlNb24gTWFyIDI1IDE0OjQxOjQzIDE5OTYNCioqKioq KioqKioqKioqKg0KKioqIDExMywxMTkgKioqKg0KICAJZm9yIChzdGFydCA9 ICsrdHJ2OyB0cnYgPiBhcyAmJiAqdHJ2ICE9ICcvJzsgLS10cnYpOw0KICAJ aWYgKCp0cnYgPT0gJy8nKSB7DQogIAkJKnRydiA9ICdcMCc7DQohIAkJaWYg KHN0YXQoYXMsICZzYnVmKSB8fCAhKHNidWYuc3RfbW9kZSAmIFNfSUZESVIp KQ0KICAJCQlyZXR1cm4oMCk7DQogIAkJKnRydiA9ICcvJzsNCiAgCX0NCi0t LSAxMTMsMTIwIC0tLS0NCiAgCWZvciAoc3RhcnQgPSArK3RydjsgdHJ2ID4g YXMgJiYgKnRydiAhPSAnLyc7IC0tdHJ2KTsNCiAgCWlmICgqdHJ2ID09ICcv Jykgew0KICAJCSp0cnYgPSAnXDAnOw0KISAJCWlmIChzdGF0KGFzPT10cnYg PyAiLyIgOiBhcywgJnNidWYpDQohIAkJICAgIHx8ICEoc2J1Zi5zdF9tb2Rl ICYgU19JRkRJUikpDQogIAkJCXJldHVybigwKTsNCiAgCQkqdHJ2ID0gJy8n Ow0KICAJfQ0K --0-329687705-827794057=:6703-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 17:03:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24782; Mon, 25 Mar 96 17:03:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17212; Mon, 25 Mar 96 16:55:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from epos.easynet.co.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17206; Mon, 25 Mar 96 16:55:23 -0800 Received: (from clive@localhost) by epos.easynet.co.uk (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA01960; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 00:55:01 GMT Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 00:55:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Clive Messer To: Ezra Van Everbroeck Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 and Linux problems In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 25 Mar 1996, Ezra Van Everbroeck wrote: > On Mon, 25 Mar 1996, Clive Messer wrote: > >>> Have you checked the permissions of the relevant files and directories? Or >>> tried increasing the debugging level of sendmail? >> >> It's not a problem with permissions. ;-) >> >> The following from Linux 1.3.77, libc-5.3.7, sendmail-8.6.5 ...... > > [snip] > > I don't know whether this will also solve your problem, but I got another > reply which says: > > From: Ashok Aiyar > Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 and Linux problems > > |Thank you for your message. I sat down and debugged the sendmail > |session ... and figured it out. I do not run stock sendmail, but > |a slightly modified version that does telnet detects (telnet to > |ebv.oncology.wisc.edu, port 25 to see what I mean), and had to > |modify my code marginally. Since Pine 3.91 sends mail by using > |"sendmail -t -oi -oem", while Pine 3.92 uses "sendmail -bs -odb -oem", > |this problem manifested only with Pine 3.92. > > You don't happen to be running a modified version of sendmail as well? No, it's not modified in any way. I'd guess at a problem with pine and the beta libc I'm using resulting in the premature EOF ? It needs someone proficient in 'C' to debug it and unfortunately I'm not that person. ;-) Clive. -- C Messer. Epos Systems. UK. | | "I pressed her thigh and death smiled." | Jim Morrison. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 17:09:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25690; Mon, 25 Mar 96 17:09:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17668; Mon, 25 Mar 96 17:07:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17660; Mon, 25 Mar 96 17:07:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1NDM-00038TC; Mon, 25 Mar 96 17:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roland@spinnaker.rhein.de (Roland Rosenfeld) Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 Date: 22 Mar 1996 23:19:12 +0100 Message-Id: <4iv910$6gq@spinnaker.rhein.de> References: <4iueap$uk9@lily.redrose.net> In article <4iueap$uk9@lily.redrose.net> David Jeffers wrote: > Does anyone know if Pine 3.92 works with the Linux 1.2.13 kernel? I > couldn't get it to compile -had two errors I haven't been able to > track down. I used the "lnx" build and Pico and Pilot compiled just > fine. I had no problems compiling pine 3.92 under Linux 1.2.13 with gcc 2.7.0 and libc 5.0.9. I changed pico/makefile.lnx, pine/makefile.lnx and imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile to use -O2 instead of -g. Ciao Roland -- * Internet: roland@spinnaker.rhein.de * Fido: 2:2450/30.1 * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 17:35:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26630; Mon, 25 Mar 96 17:35:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03740; Mon, 25 Mar 96 17:32:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03734; Mon, 25 Mar 96 17:32:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1NaR-00038FC; Mon, 25 Mar 96 17:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: akn@io.com (Jupiter) Subject: Forwarding masss mail Date: 21 Mar 1996 01:30:03 GMT Message-Id: <4iqber$eoe@nntp-1.io.com> -- +----------------------------------------*------------------------------------+ |Adrian K. Noland HN/USN ////$)\\\ "And just think, last |akn@io.com (| week I was sewing up a |rth1akn@rth10.med.navy.mil |) chicken leg" -me +----------------------------------------!------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 17:37:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26690; Mon, 25 Mar 96 17:37:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03776; Mon, 25 Mar 96 17:34:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from admin.aurora.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03770; Mon, 25 Mar 96 17:34:38 -0800 Received: by admin.aurora.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA09460; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 19:37:59 -0600 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 19:37:58 -0600 (CST) From: Steve Lowe To: Pine Information List Cc: David L Miller Subject: Pine 3.92 Aborts Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Problem -- Pine 3.92 aborts when attempting to edit a partially completed entry in your addressbook. Entered Pine from command pine392 -i Hit M for Main Menu then A for AddressBook then W to get to my line The line I go to is a PARTIAL address listing - previously I had entered the "Nickname" - but under the "Fullname" and "Address" I had entered nothing, and saved off. None the less, the line is now highlighted, but with ONLY a NickName showing. When I hit the "V" for View/Edit this line what I get (everytime) is AN ABORT saying: Problem detected: "Received Abort Signal" Pine Exiting Pine392: 15842 Floating Exception (Core Dump) System returns me to the ULTRIX level. Core dump is present in my home directory. THE BUG: Either it shouldn't allow me to save off without all the lines filled in on the address book line OR it should be able to allow me to come back in and EDIT those empty lines with the rest of the new data. So, not sure which module is at fault, but because it's letting me do something unexpected, I do get an ABORT each and every time. Thanks in advance. -- Steve Lowe Aurora University slowe@admin.aurora.edu 708 844 5290 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 17:52:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27008; Mon, 25 Mar 96 17:52:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18318; Mon, 25 Mar 96 17:42:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18312; Mon, 25 Mar 96 17:42:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1NkJ-00038FC; Mon, 25 Mar 96 17:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Pine 3.92 and ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM Date: 25 Mar 1996 07:11:53 -0800 Message-Id: References: I'm looking forward to using the new Pine - thanks for providing a great tool for all of the Internet! When I ask my sys admins to install it, do I need to ask them to uncomment this line: #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM Or has this feature changed in any way, e.g., default is to allow changing from or the line above has changed in some way? What is the name of the file it's in? Thanks much, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Mar 25 22:07:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02044; Mon, 25 Mar 96 22:07:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07411; Mon, 25 Mar 96 22:02:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07405; Mon, 25 Mar 96 22:02:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1Rnb-00038FC; Mon, 25 Mar 96 22:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thadley@cvmbs2.vetmed.colostate.edu (Thom Hadley) Subject: Problem with PC Pine 3.92 Date: 26 Mar 1996 04:13:58 GMT Message-Id: <4j7qu6$2mci@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Can anyone help me. I am trying to run PC PINE and my IMAP server is returning "Can't connect to joshua 143 (Refused)" Thanks in advance. Thom Hadley thadley@vetmed.colostate.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 00:40:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04636; Tue, 26 Mar 96 00:40:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09457; Tue, 26 Mar 96 00:38:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09451; Tue, 26 Mar 96 00:38:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1UG3-00038TC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 00:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ivo.welch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Subject: reply-to? Date: 25 Mar 1996 17:22:56 GMT Message-Id: <4j6kpg$10s@risc.agsm.ucla.edu> I am trying to decide which command line mailer to use on my linux system. The problem is that the machine is not turned on most of the time, so I want a "reply-to" address that is a machine that is turned on most of the time. I cannot find this simple header in my .pinerc or in the options setup. Is there a way to set it up? (Please respond to me by email, too. Our news server is rather flaky and articles are very short-lived.) Regards, /ivo welch -- Ivo Welch ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu Assoc Prof of Finance Anderson GSM at UCLA 110 Westwood Plaza, Box 951481, LA CA 90095-1481 UCLA AGSM Finance Faculty Homepage: HTTP://next.agsm.ucla.edu/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 00:41:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04661; Tue, 26 Mar 96 00:41:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23855; Tue, 26 Mar 96 00:38:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23849; Tue, 26 Mar 96 00:38:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1UG3-00038FC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 00:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "D. Jones" Subject: PLEASE HELP!!! Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:10:53 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4j06aq$hpi@crl7.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4j06aq$hpi@crl7.crl.com> It's becoming a real pain in the butt when I want to email something to my entire address book and I have to systematically type in every entry. Is there a way to setup an electronic mailing list. like I type in the name of the list and the message is sent to everyone that is on the list? Someone please help!!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 01:21:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05639; Tue, 26 Mar 96 01:21:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24313; Tue, 26 Mar 96 01:17:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24307; Tue, 26 Mar 96 01:17:40 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:15:39 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA18695; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:17:03 GMT Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:17:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Ivo Welch Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: reply-to? In-Reply-To: <4j6kpg$10s@risc.agsm.ucla.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Go into the Setup Configuration screen (S then C from the Main Menu). Look down the list of options for "customized-headers". Add the additional header(s) you wish to set up, including any default value. For example: Reply-to: Ivo Welch Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 25 Mar 1996, Ivo Welch wrote: > > I am trying to decide which command line mailer to use on my linux system. > The problem is that the machine is not turned on most of the time, so I > want a "reply-to" address that is a machine that is turned on most of the > time. > > I cannot find this simple header in my .pinerc or in the options setup. Is > there a way to set it up? (Please respond to me by email, too. Our news > server is rather flaky and articles are very short-lived.) > > Regards, > > /ivo welch > > -- > Ivo Welch ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu > Assoc Prof of Finance Anderson GSM at UCLA > 110 Westwood Plaza, Box 951481, LA CA 90095-1481 > UCLA AGSM Finance Faculty Homepage: HTTP://next.agsm.ucla.edu/ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 03:07:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07926; Tue, 26 Mar 96 03:07:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25331; Tue, 26 Mar 96 02:45:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hermes.dur.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25319; Tue, 26 Mar 96 02:45:08 -0800 Received: from venus by hermes.dur.ac.uk id (8.6.12/ for dur.ac.uk) with SMTP; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:44:35 GMT Received: from hercules by venus id ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:44:35 GMT Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:44:16 +0000 (GMT) From: Barry Cornelius To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: disabling features of Pine 3.92 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Pine is currently the recommended mailer at the University of Durham. However, there are certain features of Pine that we would prefer our users not to set. We do this by having a /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed file that contains: feature-list=disable-password-cmd, disable-update-cmd, disable-keyboard-lock-cmd, no-enable-verbose-smtp-posting sendmail-path= smtp-server= user-domain= use-only-domain-name= - -- Barry Cornelius Telephone: (0191 or +44 191) 374 4717 Applications Division, IT Service, IT Service Office: 374 2892 Science Site, University of Durham, Fax: 374 3741 Durham, DH1 3LE, UK E-mail: Barry.Cornelius@durham.ac.uk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMVfKhqGgSldA40uVAQERzAP/cYLyk0Ltr8nUkLt9/02I/yv6MBVUpmOD M2GEE3xhiLQ6EZCFOKVGeWxWySGMkdsvGxj0VxRy9YOb9P0YdAhjKvfeFEwbD60m iyz4YSOkNEjUbmZYSd5MJZR97Et9wNE1srS4NhLlaG+JZZv4kPBUObXF+SXEDsyv GbtVZVvSSq8= =o5Vt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 03:24:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08332; Tue, 26 Mar 96 03:24:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11348; Tue, 26 Mar 96 03:15:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11336; Tue, 26 Mar 96 03:15:39 -0800 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id aa17890; 26 Mar 96 11:09 GMT Received: from esscomp.demon.co.uk ([158.152.10.158]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa24113; 26 Mar 96 11:03 GMT Received: from ccmail by essential.co.uk (PMDF V5.0-3 #12581) id <01I2SJ0DSZXC000HEI@essential.co.uk> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:02:02 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:36 +0000 (GMT) From: kam.purewal@essential.co.uk Subject: Pine 4 Unisys To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <01I2SJ0M2NLM000HEI@essential.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi, I am trying to obtain Pine for a Unisys system. Looking through Washington Universities ftp site I see that pine runs on a bunch of Unix systems, but their is no port to Unisys. Although the source code is available we do not have the technical experience and hardware to be able to port it to Unisys. Has anyone out there carried out the changes to the code or is able to make the changes, and if so who do I speak to ? thanks in advance, Kam +------------------------------------------------------------+ | Kam Purewal email: Kam.Purewal@essential.co.uk | | Techinical Support | | | | Essential Computing Tel : +44 (0)1275 343199 | | PO Box 49 Fax : +44 (0)1275 340977 | | Burstead Court | | Hill Road | | Clevedon | | Avon BS21 7NB | +------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 04:16:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10310; Tue, 26 Mar 96 04:16:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26136; Tue, 26 Mar 96 03:53:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-11.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26130; Tue, 26 Mar 96 03:53:55 -0800 Received: from localhost by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 26 Mar 96 19:53:11 +0800 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 19:53:11 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Ivo Welch Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: reply-to? In-Reply-To: <4j6kpg$10s@risc.agsm.ucla.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 25 Mar 1996, Ivo Welch wrote: > I am trying to decide which command line mailer to use on my linux system. > The problem is that the machine is not turned on most of the time, so I > want a "reply-to" address that is a machine that is turned on most of the > time. > > I cannot find this simple header in my .pinerc or in the options setup. Is > there a way to set it up? (Please respond to me by email, too. Our news > server is rather flaky and articles are very short-lived.) Using pine3.92 (or 3.91) right? In the options add the "Reply-To: " in the "Customized Headers" option. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 04:51:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11034; Tue, 26 Mar 96 04:51:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12506; Tue, 26 Mar 96 04:38:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12500; Tue, 26 Mar 96 04:38:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1XxP-00038FC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 04:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 and Linux problems In-Reply-To: clive@epos.easynet.co.uk's message of 25 Mar 1996 04: 37:49 -0800 Message-Id: References: Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:17:19 GMT In article clive@epos.easynet.co.uk (Clive Messer) writes: It's not a problem with permissions. ;-) The following from Linux 1.3.77, libc-5.3.7, sendmail-8.6.5 ...... Mar 25 03:33:38 epos sendmail[3180]: DAA03180: from=root, size=426, class=0, pri=426, nrcpts=0, msgid=, relay=root@localhost Mar 25 03:33:38 epos sendmail[3180]: DAA03180: DAB03180: postmaster notify: root... Recipient names must be specified Mar 25 03:33:38 epos sendmail[3182]: DAB03180: to=root, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, stat=Sent 03165 >>> 220 epos.easynet.co.uk ESMTP Sendmail 8.7.5/8.7.3; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 03:31:44 GMT 03165 <<< HELO epos.easynet.co.uk 03165 >>> 250 epos.easynet.co.uk Hello root@epos.easynet.co.uk [193.131.249.152], pleased to meet you 03165 <<< RSET 03165 >>> 250 Reset state 03165 <<< MAIL FROM: 03167 >>> 250 ... Sender ok 03167 <<< [EOF] 03167 >>> 421 epos.easynet.co.uk Lost input channel from root@epos.easynet.co.uk [193.131.249.152] This sounds like a sendmail problem to me (possibly an error in the Mlocal definition in sendmail.cf). Do you get the same behavior using the Unix mail (or Mail) program? Regards, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/435-2983 http://www.access.digex.net/%7Erobjen/dc-sage/bios/rick_troxel/ /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 05:09:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11466; Tue, 26 Mar 96 05:09:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27148; Tue, 26 Mar 96 05:03:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27142; Tue, 26 Mar 96 05:03:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1YOh-00038FC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 05:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Russell_Schulz@locutus.ofB.ORG (Russell Schulz) Subject: Re: Looking for pine faq Message-Id: <960324.205356.3G3.rnr.w164w@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 20:53:56 -0700 References: <4hc61u$f7t@spectator.cris.com> ftilley@indirect.com (Felix E. Tilley) writes: > The pine mailer has its own newsgroup. I don't visit it very often, so > I don't know if there is an FAQ. it does, but the return address it gives (I had corrections to make) goes to a program which mails you the FAQ again (it's not tiny) and then discards your mail. I've recommended they change that. -- Russell_Schulz@locutus.ofB.ORG Shad 86c From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 05:10:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11504; Tue, 26 Mar 96 05:10:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12828; Tue, 26 Mar 96 05:03:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12822; Tue, 26 Mar 96 05:03:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1YOk-00038TC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 05:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ben Norwood Subject: Crossposting Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:24:02 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it possible for Pine to stop cross-posted newsgroup articles appearing in the lists for all the newsgroups its been cross-posted to? ie. if you've read the article in one newsgroup, you don't see it appearing in all the others. I've been told by someone who doesn't use Pine that most newsreaders should be able to deduce either from the message-id or Xref: line whether its seen an article before. Can Pine do this? If so, how can the feature be enabled? _ http://www.aber.ac.uk/~bdn5 "If thou hast gathered nothing | \ |\ | bdn5@aber.ac.uk in thy youth, how canst thou |-< | \ | UWA Biology Undergrad find anything in thine age?" |_/ en | \| orwood Ecclesiasticus 25:3 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 09:02:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17434; Tue, 26 Mar 96 09:02:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16484; Tue, 26 Mar 96 08:54:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16478; Tue, 26 Mar 96 08:54:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1byc-00038TC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 08:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 and user root : update .pinerc ? bug ? Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 06:54:36 +0200 Message-Id: References: <4iu9lk$4h5@saphir.jouy.inra.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 25 Mar 1996, Steve Hubert wrote: > Yes, this is a bug. I've attached a context diff for those who'd like to > fix it in the source, and, of course, it will be fixed in 3.93. I have applied this patch and recompiled the binary for SGI IRIX5.3, and this is available, with PGP signature, from... ftp://ftp.radio.cz/mail/pine/unix-bin/pine-bin.sgi or compressed, ftp://ftp.radio.cz/mail/pine/unix-bin-compressed/pine-bin.sgi.gz or ....Z ...in case anyone has need to run this particular bugfix on their SGI. PGP public key can be found with finger barryb@ccsun.tuke.sk . Barry Bouwsma, Radio PraHAW!! HAW!@! HAW!1! I GET IT!!@@!@ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 09:02:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17460; Tue, 26 Mar 96 09:02:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00941; Tue, 26 Mar 96 08:49:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00935; Tue, 26 Mar 96 08:49:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1bsh-00038TC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 08:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fred Ringel Subject: Re: Mail-forwarding? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <4iq3h0$72@mckinley.cit.macalstr.edu> <4j4itq$t2g@shellx.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4j4itq$t2g@shellx.best.com> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 02:47:38 GMT On 24 Mar 1996, Meyer Boswell Books Inc. wrote: > > After you do what is below, then how do you tell people who are writing > you at the old address that you have a new one, I mean, automatically? > > Also, can the .forward file be created in PICO? And is the only line in > it just your new address? > > Many thanks, > > Joe Luttrell Automatically? I don't know. They can find out if they are technically adept at using sendmail by telneting to the correct port and expanding the address (I believe). You can create it in PICO, and the only line is your new address. Just make sure the file is named properly and test it before relying on it. People sort of think this is magic, but it really a *very* old Unix trick. Fred ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Fred B. Ringel Rivertown.Net Systems Administrator P.O. Box 532 and General Fixer-upper Hastings, New York 10706 Voice/Support: 914.478.2885 Data: 914-478-4988 Westchester's Rivertown's Full Service Flat-Rate Internet Access Provider From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 10:00:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20155; Tue, 26 Mar 96 10:00:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17961; Tue, 26 Mar 96 09:48:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17949; Tue, 26 Mar 96 09:48:42 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA17198 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 18:48:08 +0100 Received: from localhost (bor@localhost) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA14657; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:48:02 +0300 (MOW) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:48:01 +0300 (MOW) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsmx1 Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: "Ing. Luis Antonio Fasano B." Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: USERDB & PINE In-Reply-To: <4j1d72$1gf@news.mty.itesm.mx> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 23 Mar 1996, Ing. Luis Antonio Fasano B. wrote: > Well i have this problem with the userdb database. > > I have some declarations as this one > > lfasano:mailname Luis_Fasano@campus.mty.itesm.mx > > my problem is that whenever i send a mail using the mail command or with elm, the replacement is done, but when i send a mail using pine it is not. > > IS there anyway to modificate the rule or database to make these change even if sending through pine??? > Is there any definition in pinerc which may help with this??? > > I've read the manuals and havent found anything about it. > > Any pointer???? > > Thanks in advance The following applies to sendmail 8.7.x - I didn't check 8.6.x for it. sendmail rewrites the From: header using UDB *only* if envelope sender as determined by sendmail is the same, as header sender. In case of local mail, the envelope sender from sendmail point of view is always just user, without domain qualification. It means, that header sender *must* be just plain user for UDB rewriting to take place. Basically there are several possibilities: 1. modify Pine to put just plain user in From: header. It seems to be not impossible but must be done carefully. 2. modify sendmail to uconditionally use UDB for header rewriting. There is already code for it, but it is under #ifdef MAYBENEXTRELEASE. You could try to remove #ifdef and look, if it works. In this case you will have to put user@FQDN in UDB in addition to plain user. 3. modify sendmail.cf: resolve all local mail to user@FQDN, and strip FQDN in local mailer rules. It seems to be possible, and should work; but I never did try it. You will need user@FQDN in this case also. Also in this case you lose UDB for elm :-( It seems to be basically sendmail problem (for me). Probably, sometimes #ifdef MAYBENEXTRELEASE will be removed in oficial distribution of sendmail. hope it helps ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 10:02:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20243; Tue, 26 Mar 96 10:02:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02470; Tue, 26 Mar 96 09:49:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02464; Tue, 26 Mar 96 09:49:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1cpe-00038FC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 09:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hfan@leland.stanford.edu Subject: help needed Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 19:07:42 +0000 Message-Id: <3156EEFE.2A24@leland.stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am using Mail now but I want to start using Pine. My question is: How do I transfer my old folders I established when I use Mail to Pine? Thank you for your help. Hongran Fan, Ph.D. Stanford University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 10:05:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20396; Tue, 26 Mar 96 10:05:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18078; Tue, 26 Mar 96 09:54:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18072; Tue, 26 Mar 96 09:54:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1crr-00038FC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 09:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@guava.epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: [Q] Mark a read mail unread (new) Date: 22 Mar 1996 06:31:49 GMT Message-Id: <4ithgl$7af@guava.epix.net> References: <31509EC7.13335498@libhitech.com> support (support@libhitech.com) wrote: : Is it possible in pine to read the mail and still have 'N' next to the message? Yup, * (shift + 8) then n ... now, why do ya want to do this ... who's mail are you reading?? ... only a thought ... G'Day From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 10:31:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21180; Tue, 26 Mar 96 10:31:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03247; Tue, 26 Mar 96 10:24:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from torcon.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03237; Tue, 26 Mar 96 10:24:12 -0800 Received: from tdch.torcon.com (tdch.torcon.com [205.207.142.50]) by torcon.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA07966 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 13:23:20 -0500 Received: (from mvelema@localhost) by tdch.torcon.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id NAA07780; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 13:30:21 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 13:30:20 -0500 (EST) From: mvelema To: pine institute Subject: program Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII nice e-mail program From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 11:20:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22898; Tue, 26 Mar 96 11:20:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04061; Tue, 26 Mar 96 11:04:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04055; Tue, 26 Mar 96 11:04:13 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29422; Tue, 26 Mar 96 11:03:54 -0800 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:03:37 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Nancy McGough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 and ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Nancy, This has not changed... so yes, you'll need to uncomment and recompile. -teg On 25 Mar 1996, Nancy McGough wrote: > I'm looking forward to using the new Pine - thanks for providing a > great tool for all of the Internet! When I ask my sys admins to > install it, do I need to ask them to uncomment this line: > > #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM > > Or has this feature changed in any way, e.g., default is to allow > changing from or the line above has changed in some way? What is > the name of the file it's in? > > Thanks much, > Nancy > > -- > <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< > @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ > (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) > ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 11:30:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23744; Tue, 26 Mar 96 11:30:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04449; Tue, 26 Mar 96 11:19:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04443; Tue, 26 Mar 96 11:19:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1eEy-00038FC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 11:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kjell@bellatrix-le2.tdb.uu.se (Kjell Hvgstrvm) Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 and user root : update .pinerc ? bug ? Date: 24 Mar 1996 11:49:05 GMT Message-Id: <4j3crh$gu0@columba.udac.uu.se> References: <4iu9lk$4h5@saphir.jouy.inra.fr> <4j0a2q$d24@ccpnws.in2p3.fr> In article <4j0a2q$d24@ccpnws.in2p3.fr>, Bernard MERLANT wrote: >Christophe Caron (caron@jade.jouy.inra.fr) wrote: > >: Hi, >: On HP/UX and Solaris 2.4 with pine 3.92 >: when user root uses pine , i have >: [Error saving configuration in file "/.pinerc": No such file or directory] > > I have the same behaviour on my system ( HP/UX 9.03 ) It's a problem with creating the name for the temporary file which is used to for the new .pinerc before changing the name. The problem is in _gettemp (pine/osdep/tempnam) and after a build placed in pine/os.c. Pine generates a temporary file name like "/home/user/pinercXXXXXX" there the X's gets replaced by the process ID. In the code part below "as" is the temporary name under construction and "trv" is a pointer in that string placed just before the X which at this point is replaced with PID. This code is part of a check to see if the directory is writable. This routine stats "/home/user" in the example above which is ok, but if you are root (have / as home directory), the temporary file will be "/pinercXXXXXX", which gives a stat on "", which is not ok /* * check for write permission on target directory; if you have * six X's and you can't write the directory, this will run for * a *very* long time. */ for (start = ++trv; trv > as && *trv != '/'; --trv); if (*trv == '/') { *trv = '\0'; if (stat(as, &sbuf) || !(sbuf.st_mode & S_IFDIR)) return(0); *trv = '/'; } I have not tested this carefully but I think it will solve the problem: *** tempnam.orig Sun Mar 24 12:41:03 1996 --- tempnam Sun Mar 24 12:43:13 1996 *************** *** 112,117 **** --- 112,119 ---- */ for (start = ++trv; trv > as && *trv != '/'; --trv); if (*trv == '/') { + if (as == trv) + trv++; *trv = '\0'; if (stat(as, &sbuf) || !(sbuf.st_mode & S_IFDIR)) return(0); /Kjell From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 11:42:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24458; Tue, 26 Mar 96 11:42:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20985; Tue, 26 Mar 96 11:37:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from maze.vsc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20971; Tue, 26 Mar 96 11:37:03 -0800 Received: from localhost by maze.vsc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/27Sep94-0126PM) id AA11807; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 14:37:37 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 14:37:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael H. Martel" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello! Using Pine 3.92 on Dec Unix, I get the following message every time that reply to a message: [Can't create .addressbook.lu, using temp file] The file does not exist, it does not ahve any odd rights etc. The .lu file was fine when I used 3.91, and then after the upgrade I started to get this. Thoughts ? Thanks! Michael ------------------------------o--------------------------------- Michael H. Martel | Vermont State Colleges michael@maze.vsc.edu | Technical Support Specialist http://www.vsc.edu/~michael | PH:802-241-2535 FX:802-241-3363 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 11:53:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25288; Tue, 26 Mar 96 11:53:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21175; Tue, 26 Mar 96 11:44:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21169; Tue, 26 Mar 96 11:44:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1edo-00038TC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 11:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: frickson@gibbon.com (John C. Frickson) Subject: Re: Imapd and shadow-passwords Date: 25 Mar 1996 21:23:33 GMT Message-Id: <4j72sl$cdb@blackice.winternet.com> References: <4j66nf$kcr@surz03fi.HRZ.Uni-Marburg.DE> In <4j66nf$kcr@surz03fi.HRZ.Uni-Marburg.DE>, leich@papin.HRZ.Uni-Marburg.DE (Steffen Leich) writes: >Hi, >does anyone have a solution for using the imap-system along with a shadowed >Linux (1.2.13 / Slackware 3.0)? If I remember right, I changed two files. imap/ANSI/c-client/LDFLAGS: -lshadow imap/ANSI/c-client/os_lnx.h add the following line: #define crypt pw_encrypt -- John C. Frickson | http://www.gibbon.com/ | * OS/2 * Linux * Gibbon Computer Products | ftp://ftp.gibbon.com | PGP Fingerprint: 9864 Palm St. NW | Phone: +1 612 754 6557 | FD743D4E209DFC26 Coon Rapids, MN 55433 | VISA/MasterCard/AmEx | 371905C7B52B36E9 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 12:10:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25956; Tue, 26 Mar 96 12:10:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05589; Tue, 26 Mar 96 11:59:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05583; Tue, 26 Mar 96 11:59:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1esM-00038FC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 11:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fjherna@ibm.net (Javier Hernandez) Subject: How to put Reply-to Pine Linux Date: 26 Mar 1996 11:16:21 GMT Message-Id: <4j8jm5$3mmc@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Hi All, Can anyone explain me how can I put a ReplyTo header to Pine? I was not able to find out how to do it. I checked .pinerc but I did not find any reference to it. thanks -- --------------oOo-------------------- Javi fjherna@ibm.net fj.chicha@p48.europa3.encomix.com Valencia, SPAIN  From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 12:32:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27034; Tue, 26 Mar 96 12:32:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22083; Tue, 26 Mar 96 12:17:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [199.0.71.15] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22077; Tue, 26 Mar 96 12:17:29 -0800 Received: from jimc.rounder.com ([199.0.71.182]) by rounder.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA28785; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 15:21:21 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 14:53:39 -0500 () From: Jim Cappucci To: "Michael H. Martel" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Sender: jimc@rounder.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm getting the same thing with PC-Pine (groups.lu) Any ideas, anyone? > Hello! > > Using Pine 3.92 on Dec Unix, I get the following message every time that > reply to a message: > > [Can't create .addressbook.lu, using temp file] > > The file does not exist, it does not ahve any odd rights etc. The .lu > file was fine when I used 3.91, and then after the upgrade I started to > get this. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 12:56:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28236; Tue, 26 Mar 96 12:56:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23007; Tue, 26 Mar 96 12:46:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aurore.cbl.cees.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23001; Tue, 26 Mar 96 12:46:02 -0800 Received: from aurore.cbl.cees.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by aurore.cbl.cees.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA05878 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 15:45:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199603262045.PAA05878@aurore.cbl.cees.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Spell checker for WinPine 3.92? Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 15:45:50 -0500 From: Larry Lentner Does anyone have any recommendations for a good spell checker for PCPine for Windows 3.92? Thanks in advance, Larry Lentner UMCEES/CBL Computer Center larry@cbl.cees.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 13:07:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29453; Tue, 26 Mar 96 13:07:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07071; Tue, 26 Mar 96 12:57:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07065; Tue, 26 Mar 96 12:57:20 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26412; Tue, 26 Mar 96 12:54:35 -0800 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:54:33 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Thom Hadley Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problem with PC Pine 3.92 In-Reply-To: <4j7qu6$2mci@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 21 Mar 1996, Thom Hadley wrote: > This is most likely my stupidity but when I am using the PC-PINE 3.92 product > under Windows95 and trying to connect to an AIX 3.2.5 box I get the following > message vth.colostate.edu connection refused. I have the inbox setting in the > configuation file as: {cvmbs2.vetmed.colostate.edu}INBOX. Can anyone help? > Host cvmbs2.vetmed.colostate.edu does not appear to be running an IMAP server... On 26 Mar 1996, Thom Hadley wrote: > Can anyone help me. I am trying to run PC PINE and my IMAP server is > returning "Can't connect to joshua 143 (Refused)" > Yup, that's the error message you get when the server doesn't have IMAP configured. You will need to convince your system administrator to configure IMAP to run PC-Pine... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 13:31:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00681; Tue, 26 Mar 96 13:31:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23905; Tue, 26 Mar 96 13:14:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23899; Tue, 26 Mar 96 13:14:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1g0z-00038TC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 13:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: adorabl@en.com Subject: Pine config. for windows 3.1 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 23:34:03 -0800 Message-Id: <31579DEB.660B@en.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I get the following message when I try to compose new mail on my newly downloaded pine 3.92 for windows 3.1. "Can't send message without an open remote folder" What does that mean? I am using a local server PPP with "winsock trumpet". Can anyone help me with this? Sam From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 13:52:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01741; Tue, 26 Mar 96 13:52:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08263; Tue, 26 Mar 96 13:34:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08257; Tue, 26 Mar 96 13:34:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1gJV-00038TC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 13:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bm71569@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca (Jamie Royer) Subject: Bug? OS/2 Pine 3.92 Message-Id: <1996Mar25.202327.7809@venus.gov.bc.ca> Date: 25 Mar 96 20:23:22 PST I just tried Pine 3.92 for OS/2 and I have a problem. I run Pine, it attempts to open my inbox and prompts for username and password. I enter it. It opens my inbox. I then press "L" (folder List) and it prompts for username and password. I pick a folder, it asks for username and password, etc. This was not happening with Pine 3.91 (pine391a.zip). 3.91 asks once and I can cruise through all files. Is there a solution? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jamie Royer Tel: (604) 775-2879 Senior Programmer Fax: (604) 775-2880 GAEA Management & Consulting Ltd. E-Mail: jroyer@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca Burnaby, BC, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- My opinions may be wrong, but at least they're my own. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 13:58:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02177; Tue, 26 Mar 96 13:58:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24845; Tue, 26 Mar 96 13:49:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24838; Tue, 26 Mar 96 13:49:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1gaH-00038FC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 13:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= Subject: Re: IMAP Folder Problems Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 07:13:45 +0200 Message-Id: References: <3152DB03.41C5@engin.umich.edu> <1996Mar25.200302.7807@venus.gov.bc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1996Mar25.200302.7807@venus.gov.bc.ca> On 25 Mar 1996, Jamie Royer wrote: > Here is what I have: > inbox-path={themis.ag.gov.bc.ca}INBOX > folder-collections={themis.ag.gov.bc.ca}/home/bm71569/mail/[] > I'm currently having problems with having to continuously logon. > Look at INBOX, logon, look at Folders, logon, etc. This will probably become a Frequently Asked Question. To keep from having to enter your login, specify your username in every folder collection. That is, {themis.ag.gov.bc.ca} will become... {themis.ag.gov.bc.ca/user=bm71569} After you do this, you will no longer need to enter your login for each folder you access. Note that this specification is incompatible with 3.91. The point behind this is to allow you to access different folders as different logins on the same host, which was previously impossible. So, if you were to share folders with someone (as we have a common mailbox for radio mail here), every user would be able to view the messages in these folders as themselves, as well as seeing their own mail. (Maybe 3.93 will have an option to let you specify that the same login is to be used with the same hostname at all times? Just a thought...) Barry Bouwsma, Radio Praha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 14:07:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02629; Tue, 26 Mar 96 14:07:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08940; Tue, 26 Mar 96 14:01:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from argo.hks.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08928; Tue, 26 Mar 96 14:01:10 -0800 Received: from polaris.hks.com (polaris.hks.com [192.101.199.59]) by argo.hks.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id RAA19150 for <@hks.com:pine-info@cac.washington.edu>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:01:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by polaris.hks.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for id RAA01113; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:01:05 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:01:05 -0500 (EST) From: David Andre To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII help David Andre Why are headphones marked with a 'L' and 'R'? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 15:33:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06666; Tue, 26 Mar 96 15:33:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11243; Tue, 26 Mar 96 15:29:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11237; Tue, 26 Mar 96 15:29:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1i8h-00038FC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 15:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bm71569@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca (Jamie Royer) Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP!!! Message-Id: <1996Mar25.160432.7802@venus.gov.bc.ca> Date: 25 Mar 96 16:04:32 PST References: <4j06aq$hpi@crl7.crl.com> "D. Jones" writes: >It's becoming a real pain in the butt when I want to email something to my >entire address book and I have to systematically type in every entry. Is >there a way to setup an electronic mailing list. like I type in the name >of the list and the message is sent to everyone that is on the list? >Someone please help!!! > In the address book use "S - CreateList" and "Z - AddToList". There may be some limits to the number of names that can be contained in a list. On a unix computer there is also a system wide alias file "/etc/aliases" that can contain aliases for individuals and groups. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jamie Royer Tel: (604) 775-2879 Senior Programmer Fax: (604) 775-2880 GAEA Management & Consulting Ltd. E-Mail: jroyer@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca Burnaby, BC, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- My opinions may be wrong, but at least they're my own. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 15:47:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07426; Tue, 26 Mar 96 15:47:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27826; Tue, 26 Mar 96 15:39:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27820; Tue, 26 Mar 96 15:39:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1iHa-00038FC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 15:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fuzzy@ASARian.org (Fuzzy) Subject: pine 3.92 and usenet Date: 26 Mar 1996 17:04:45 -0500 Message-Id: <4j9plt$5im@ASARian.org> I have both a local news spool for about 20 newsgroups, and an nntp server to read the rest of full feed that our ISP carries. we see one can enter path to .newsrc, but since we have 2 different spools (the remote nntp one and local /usr/spool/news one, we need 2 different .newsrc's, (to keep the article numbwers for each spool correct in the .newsrc. we do this with tin/rtin by using a -f option and addressing an alternet .newsrc when using local spool. how do we do this with pine 3.92's new options? Fuzzy -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 16:43:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09541; Tue, 26 Mar 96 16:43:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13187; Tue, 26 Mar 96 16:40:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13181; Tue, 26 Mar 96 16:39:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1jCf-00038FC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 16:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Melusky" Subject: Hyperterminal printing Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 15:14:47 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Q&A: Date: 3/96 Question: Why doesn't the "attached-to-ansi" printing work with my communication software. (Hyperterminal) Answer: The only supported software communication packages that include the "attached-to-ansi" function are Kermit, EWAN Telnet and NCSA Telnet. Kermit is located on ftp.cac.washington.edu: Directory for the Mac version: /world/kermit/mac Directory for the DOS version: /world/kermit/msdos The UW Dial IP program is located on ftp.cac.washington.edu; Directory for Windows: /uw/dial-ip/win Directory for Macs: /uw/dial-ip/mac I think a few people wanted this info. If it doesn't work then I give up! Yarg! ciao, J. __o _`\<,_ (*)/ (*) http://weber.u.washington.edu/~whatfer/jonjen.html __o `'`'``'``'`'~\_ email:whatfer@u.washington.edu _`\<,_ HomeSweetHome \ Hobbys:Mt Bikes, Volleyball (*)/ (*) Jon & Jenny \ __o ___/~`'`'`'` \ _`\<,_ _/(\"/)```~. SEATTLE WA USA \_ (*)/ (*) / o o ( ( )_ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~````'`'`'`'`'`''~~~~ >O<- ~ "~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 17:24:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11917; Tue, 26 Mar 96 17:24:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00843; Tue, 26 Mar 96 17:20:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00837; Tue, 26 Mar 96 17:20:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1jqJ-00038VC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 17:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mihai T. LAZARESCU" Subject: Re: Mark and paste in pine 3.92 (errata) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 20:50:36 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 23 Mar 1996, Mihai T. LAZARESCU wrote: > Another annoying behavior on the same topic is that the marked text gets > lost (from the marked text buffer, not only as highlight on the window) > if pine window is refreshed (^L), after a ** operation completion (folder > update?) or if switching to another message. Brief: after any operation > that changes/updates pine window. This is not the normal behavior of > xterm window without pine running in it. Ignore it. I discovered it's fixed in 3.92. Great! Mihai L. -- Mihai Teodor LAZARESCU Ph.D. student Voice: + 39 (0)11 564 5128 | Polytechnic of Turin Fax : + 39 (0)11 564 4134 | Electronics & Communic. Department email: lazarescu@polito.it | Corso Duca degli Abruzzi, 24 http://ccmserv.polito.it/mihai/ | 10129 TORINO, ITALY From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 17:24:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11949; Tue, 26 Mar 96 17:24:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00835; Tue, 26 Mar 96 17:20:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00829; Tue, 26 Mar 96 17:20:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1jpn-00038TC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 17:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mihai T. LAZARESCU" Subject: Re: 3.92 list scrolling slow Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 19:30:24 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 23 Mar 1996, Ian Russell Ollmann wrote: > You can use ^v instead, but it > is an awkward key combo. feature-list=assume-slow-link doesn't revert the > scrolling behavior to what it was in 3.91. It seems like it should. > > Ian Ollmann You can use the very handy space bar to go a page down and `-' (minus) to go one page up. Mihai L. -- Mihai Teodor LAZARESCU Ph.D. student Voice: + 39 (0)11 564 5128 | Polytechnic of Turin Fax : + 39 (0)11 564 4134 | Electronics & Communic. Department email: lazarescu@polito.it | Corso Duca degli Abruzzi, 24 http://ccmserv.polito.it/mihai/ | 10129 TORINO, ITALY From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 17:24:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11974; Tue, 26 Mar 96 17:24:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14320; Tue, 26 Mar 96 17:20:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14314; Tue, 26 Mar 96 17:20:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1jpn-00038UC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 17:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mihai T. LAZARESCU" Subject: Mark and paste in pine 3.92 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 19:42:01 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Not actually a bug, merely a misfunction. When enabling the mouse control in xterm it seems impossible to use the X Window text mark and paste. Actually the text cannot be marked anymore. I don't know if it is possible to made mouse sensible only the meaningful regions of the xterm window (those displaying pine commands) while leaving the text part behaving the normal way. Another annoying behavior on the same topic is that the marked text gets lost (from the marked text buffer, not only as highlight on the window) if pine window is refreshed (^L), after a ** operation completion (folder update?) or if switching to another message. Brief: after any operation that changes/updates pine window. This is not the normal behavior of xterm window without pine running in it. Great product anyway!! Mihai L. -- Mihai Teodor LAZARESCU Ph.D. student Voice: + 39 (0)11 564 5128 | Polytechnic of Turin Fax : + 39 (0)11 564 4134 | Electronics & Communic. Department email: lazarescu@polito.it | Corso Duca degli Abruzzi, 24 http://ccmserv.polito.it/mihai/ | 10129 TORINO, ITALY From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 17:44:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12511; Tue, 26 Mar 96 17:44:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14787; Tue, 26 Mar 96 17:40:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14781; Tue, 26 Mar 96 17:40:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1k9S-00038FC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 17:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: adorabl@en.com Subject: Pine config Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 01:32:38 -0800 Message-Id: <3157B9B6.5AC3@en.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I try to compose mail on pine for windows 3.1, I get thye following message right above the menu: "Can't send message without an open remote folder." Sam From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 18:15:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13314; Tue, 26 Mar 96 18:15:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01807; Tue, 26 Mar 96 18:10:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01801; Tue, 26 Mar 96 18:10:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1kfb-00038WC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 18:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Problem with Pico editor Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 08:30:40 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4j5oi2$pob@newnews.iafrica.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4j5oi2$pob@newnews.iafrica.com> On 25 Mar 1996, Deon de Villiers wrote: > I have recently downloaded and compiled the pico editor. It is just > what I was looking for - nice and easy for new users. > > I have two issues I would like some help on. > > 1. The help tells me that Ctrl-^ is used to select text. I cannot > seem to get this right You may need to check what characters your terminal or PC or Mac is actually sending out. On some keyboards, with the ^ above the 6, you might need to be sure to press the shift key. Another approach is to use the key sequence ESC ESC ^ > 2. How does one overtype characters (ie. vi's replace mode). Probably you can't. I don't think Pico and the Pine composer have an overtype mode. For my own use, I have replaced them (in Pine via the alternate-editor feature) with jpico, a configuration of the JOE editor which looks and feels a lot like a superset of Pico with added features. jpico can toggle back and forth between insert and overtype modes. (You can also set margins, even if you have not yet upgraded to the new Pine 3.92., and do other things, all the while maintaining a lot of the look and feel of Pico.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 19:17:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14828; Tue, 26 Mar 96 19:17:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16416; Tue, 26 Mar 96 19:06:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-11.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16410; Tue, 26 Mar 96 19:06:03 -0800 Received: from localhost by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 27 Mar 96 07:47:31 +0800 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 07:47:30 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: Javier Hernandez Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to put Reply-to Pine Linux In-Reply-To: <4j8jm5$3mmc@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 26 Mar 1996, Javier Hernandez wrote: > Can anyone explain me how can I put a ReplyTo header to > Pine? > I was not able to find out how to do it. I checked .pinerc > but I did not find any reference to it. In a recent reply..... On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > > I cannot find this simple header in my .pinerc or in the options setup. Is > > there a way to set it up? (Please respond to me by email, too. Our news > > server is rather flaky and articles are very short-lived.) > > Using pine3.92 (or 3.91) right? > > In the options add the "Reply-To: " in the "Customized Headers" > option. Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 19:39:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15227; Tue, 26 Mar 96 19:39:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16851; Tue, 26 Mar 96 19:35:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16845; Tue, 26 Mar 96 19:35:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1m0w-00038UC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 19:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bm71569@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca (Jamie Royer) Subject: Future Pine enhancement suggestion Message-Id: <1996Mar25.171438.7804@venus.gov.bc.ca> Date: 25 Mar 96 17:14:38 PST Would it be possible to allow keys to be remapped? I believe I have seen responses saying it must be system independent. What if a supplementary program converted a text file to a binary file? Here is a suggestion: Create terminal definition files in the form: [xterm] ; Left side : Name of key (excluding control keys). ; Right side: Key sequence associated/generated by the key. Tab=\011 Return=\015 Backspace=^H Esc=\e Left=\e[D F1=\e[11~ [Pine] ; Left side : an internal code used by Pine. ; Right side: a short name assigned to the internal code. 1000=Show Keys 1001=Help 2000=Send Mail [Pine-xterm] ; Map Pine key (left side) to terminal key (right side). Show Keys=^K Send Mail=^X Mark=^^ Mark=Esc Esc ^ Right=Right When the user presses "Show Keys", they see a context-sensitive help screen. If window cannot fit on screen, allow scrolling: +-+---------------------------------------------------------------+ |^| Show Keys ^K Send Mail ^X | +-+ Mark ^^ Help F1 | | | Esc Esc ^ Refresh ^L | | | Justify ^J PrevPage - | +-+ Left Left Right Right | |v| < etc > < etc > | +-+---------------------------------------------------------------+ Advantages are: - Portability is maintained. - Language independent (more or less). - Keys can be re-mapped to work with more terminals. - Keys can be re-mapped to be similar to other products. - Keys can be removed from the map if sys admin wants to disable them. - Terminal definitions can be shared between applications (Pilot, Pine, Pico). To improve speed, this key map could be "compiled" into structures that Pine could read using C binary read. These files could be placed in a Pine search path. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jamie Royer Tel: (604) 775-2879 Senior Programmer Fax: (604) 775-2880 GAEA Management & Consulting Ltd. E-Mail: jroyer@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca Burnaby, BC, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- My opinions may be wrong, but at least they're my own. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 19:40:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15266; Tue, 26 Mar 96 19:40:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03305; Tue, 26 Mar 96 19:35:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03299; Tue, 26 Mar 96 19:35:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1m0w-00038TC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 19:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bm71569@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca (Jamie Royer) Subject: Compiling Pine on DG/UX 4.11 Message-Id: <1996Mar25.162325.7803@venus.gov.bc.ca> Date: 25 Mar 96 16:23:25 PST I have compiled Pine 3.92 on ("uname -a"): dgux themis.ag.gov.bc.ca R4.11 generic AViiON mc88110 To do so, I had to change 4 files. DG/UX 4.11 has resolved the problem with "utime". I have included the "diff" output so "patch" could be used to apply the changes. ==================================================================== Directory: ..../pine3.92/imap/ANSI/c-client ==================================================================== -------------------------------------------------------------------- diff Makefile.orig Makefile - Deleting "-Dconst=" removes the warning messages like: /usr/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' -------------------------------------------------------------------- 127c127 < CFLAGS="-g -Dconst= -DNFSKLUDGE $(EXTRACFLAGS)" RANLIB=true --- > CFLAGS="-g -DNFSKLUDGE $(EXTRACFLAGS)" RANLIB=true -------------------------------------------------------------------- diff os_d-g.c.orig os_d-g.c - "crypt" now defined in "unistd.h". - "setpgrp" doesn't take parameters, "setpgrp2" does. - "utimbuf" now of the form "time_t[2]". -------------------------------------------------------------------- 53c53 < char *crypt (char *key,char *salt); --- > /* char *crypt (char *key,char *salt); */ 54a55 > #define setpgrp setpgrp2 77a79 > /* 81c83 < times.actime = timep[0]; /* copy the portable values */ --- > times.actime = timep[0]; /o copy the portable values o/ 83c85 < /* zap the D-G incompatible values */ --- > /o zap the D-G incompatible values o/ 85c87 < return utime (file,×); /* now call D-G's routine */ --- > return utime (file,×); /o now call D-G's routine o/ 86a89 > */ -------------------------------------------------------------------- diff os_d-g.h.orig os_d-g.h - "utimbuf" now of the form "time_t[2]". -------------------------------------------------------------------- 51,52c51,52 < #define utime portable_utime < int portable_utime (char *file,time_t timep[2]); --- > /* #define utime portable_utime */ > /* int portable_utime (char *file,time_t timep[2]); */ ==================================================================== Directory: ..../pine3.92/pine ==================================================================== -------------------------------------------------------------------- diff makefile.d-g.orig makefile.d-g - Delete "-Dconst=" removes the warning messages like: /usr/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' -------------------------------------------------------------------- 61c61 < STDCFLAGS= -Dconst= -DSV4 -DSYSTYPE=\"D-G\" -DMOUSE --- > STDCFLAGS= -DSV4 -DSYSTYPE=\"D-G\" -DMOUSE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jamie Royer Tel: (604) 775-2879 Senior Programmer Fax: (604) 775-2880 GAEA Management & Consulting Ltd. E-Mail: jroyer@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca Burnaby, BC, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- My opinions may be wrong, but at least they're my own. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 19:40:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15297; Tue, 26 Mar 96 19:40:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03313; Tue, 26 Mar 96 19:35:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03307; Tue, 26 Mar 96 19:35:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1m0x-00038VC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 19:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bm71569@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca (Jamie Royer) Subject: Re: Making email list?!? Message-Id: <1996Mar25.172317.7805@venus.gov.bc.ca> Date: 25 Mar 96 17:23:16 PST References: "D. Jones" writes: >Can anyone tell me how to make an email list from my address book without >have to manually place in each name. Is there a way to set a variable >that holds on the addresses currently in the address book? Please help. >This is truly becoming a pain in the butt. > >D- The address book is a simple text file. You can modify it directly. Backup ".addressbook" and ".addressbook.lu". WARNING: Watch out for text editors that convert tabs to spaces.
e.g. Jamie Royer, Jamie jroyer@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca is IS Department (Jamie,Rob,Vern) Not the ultimate solution, but it may save some time. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jamie Royer Tel: (604) 775-2879 Senior Programmer Fax: (604) 775-2880 GAEA Management & Consulting Ltd. E-Mail: jroyer@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca Burnaby, BC, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- My opinions may be wrong, but at least they're my own. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 19:42:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15388; Tue, 26 Mar 96 19:42:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16843; Tue, 26 Mar 96 19:35:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16837; Tue, 26 Mar 96 19:35:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1m0N-00038FC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 19:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vilhuber@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Jan Vilhuber) Subject: PGP filter and enclosures Date: 26 Mar 1996 00:47:27 GMT Message-Id: <4j7eqv$64s@peabody.colorado.edu> I get the impression that when signing a message (haven't tried encryption), the signature only covers the text part of the email, not the enclosure(s). I just tried it (to myself) and the PGP lines (the ones with the dashes) seem to be around the message body sans enclosure. Is this true? This is somewhat undesireable... P.S. I'm using the scripts posted on here recently. They work well otherwise! Thanks! jan vilhuber@cs.colorado.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 19:57:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15715; Tue, 26 Mar 96 19:57:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03612; Tue, 26 Mar 96 19:55:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-11.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03606; Tue, 26 Mar 96 19:55:00 -0800 Received: from localhost by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 27 Mar 96 11:54:06 +0800 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 11:54:05 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: "Mihai T. LAZARESCU" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Mark and paste in pine 3.92 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 23 Mar 1996, Mihai T. LAZARESCU wrote: > Not actually a bug, merely a misfunction. > > When enabling the mouse control in xterm it seems impossible to use the > X Window text mark and paste. Actually the text cannot be marked anymore. *Not True* Simply use the shift+M1 to mark and shift+M2 to paste.... Please read help associated with functions..... FEATURE: enable-mouse-in-xterm This feature controls whether or not an X terminal mouse can be used with Pine. If set, and the $DISPLAY variable indicates that an X terminal is being used, the left mouse button on the mouse can be used to select text or commands. Note: if this feature is set, the behavior of xterm cut-and-paste is also modified. It is necessary to hold the shift key down while clicking left or middle mouse buttons for the normal xterm cut/paste operations. Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 20:30:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16456; Tue, 26 Mar 96 20:30:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17597; Tue, 26 Mar 96 20:25:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17591; Tue, 26 Mar 96 20:25:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1mk5-00038FC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 20:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ben Norwood Subject: Re: Kill Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 15:50:21 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 23 Mar 1996, EXCALIBUR wrote: :Is there anyway to kill or block incoming mail from a specific address? :Somehow my address has been caught in an endless loop from the same :address and I am getting thousands od long letters. I am un able to :contact the source address of these letters. So can I simply block mail :from that address somehow? Its impossible within Pine itself, but it is possible to block mail within the system. I don't know if this method will work with your system, but on the system at Aberystwtyh University, you can create/edit a file called .mailfilter, which is located in the directory before 'mail': For your purposes create the following lines: if (!delivered && $(from)==/abc@def.ghi.jk/) { delivered=TRUE; } Blocks all mail from abc@def.ghi.jk if (!delivered) { unixfile "mail/INBOX"; } Tells where to stick mail from any other address. _ http://www.aber.ac.uk/~bdn5 "If thou hast gathered nothing | \ |\ | bdn5@aber.ac.uk in thy youth, how canst thou |-< | \ | UWA Biology Undergrad find anything in thine age?" |_/ en | \| orwood Ecclesiasticus 25:3 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 21:14:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17449; Tue, 26 Mar 96 21:14:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18287; Tue, 26 Mar 96 21:10:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-11.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18281; Tue, 26 Mar 96 21:09:53 -0800 Received: from localhost by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 27 Mar 96 13:09:12 +0800 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 13:09:11 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Jan Vilhuber Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PGP filter and enclosures In-Reply-To: <4j7eqv$64s@peabody.colorado.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 26 Mar 1996, Jan Vilhuber wrote: > I get the impression that when signing a message (haven't tried > encryption), the signature only covers the text part of the email, not > the enclosure(s). I just tried it (to myself) and the PGP lines (the ones > with the dashes) seem to be around the message body sans enclosure. > > Is this true? This is somewhat undesireable... > > P.S. I'm using the scripts posted on here recently. They work well > otherwise! Thanks! Yes, it is true. Actually, it is desireable from a security standpoint. Each attachment should be signed as a seperate act. The reason being that if it were not then detaching the item from the message would destroy the ability to verify the signature. This is especially true when you are attaching documents from more than one source. Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 21:39:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17903; Tue, 26 Mar 96 21:39:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04915; Tue, 26 Mar 96 21:35:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04908; Tue, 26 Mar 96 21:35:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1nrn-00038FC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 21:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ming Subject: Sorting incoming mail Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:30:47 EST Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was wondering if someone could help me in setting up a mail sorter for my incoming mail. I know that it can be done, but I can't seem to get it to get it set up properly. Thanks in advance. Ming 200 Elliott Hall MIami University 10285 Gentlewind Dr. Oxford, Ohio 45056 Cincinnati, Ohio 45242 513.529.3982 513.791.7236 Mailto: erlee@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu WWW: Http://miavx1.acs.muohio.edu/~erlee "...it could be better to lie back in the tall weeds and procrastinate." -stephen king- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 22:36:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19083; Tue, 26 Mar 96 22:36:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05822; Tue, 26 Mar 96 22:32:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05816; Tue, 26 Mar 96 22:32:36 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08227; Tue, 26 Mar 96 22:32:32 -0800 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 22:32:32 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Steve Lowe Cc: Pine Information List Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 Aborts In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thank you, It will be fixed in maintenance release 3.93. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Mon, 25 Mar 1996, Steve Lowe wrote: > Problem -- Pine 3.92 aborts when attempting to edit a partially completed > entry in your addressbook. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 23:42:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20096; Tue, 26 Mar 96 23:42:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20436; Tue, 26 Mar 96 23:35:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20430; Tue, 26 Mar 96 23:35:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1phr-00038TC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 23:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vulpine@gold.mv.net (Tod T. Fox) Subject: Pine and Layers Message-Id: Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 05:12:29 GMT I've just started using Layers on my shell account and it doesn't seem to work well with pine. I can open it and look at my mail but if I leave it open it won't update. Other programs(tin, tinyfugue, etc.) will let me know when mail arrives, but it won't show up unless I quit and return or expunge some messages. Is there a way to fix this? an option or something in setup? Tod -- 'the wind is a Lady with bright slender eyes(who moves)at sunset and * who- -the hills without * Join the CDA suit! http://www.cdt.org/ciec/ * touches any reason.' -e.e. cummings *vulpine@gold.mv.net* *Temperance@Urban Legends (Staff)* Vulpine@SocioPoltical Ramifications (Staff)* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Mar 26 23:48:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20310; Tue, 26 Mar 96 23:48:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06730; Tue, 26 Mar 96 23:45:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06724; Tue, 26 Mar 96 23:45:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1puo-00038VC; Tue, 26 Mar 96 23:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Penn Subject: PC-PINE configuration woes Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 22:31:37 -0800 Message-Id: <3158E0C9.6ED9@crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Help!! I'm trying to install PC-PINE. I've extracted the archive, and placed it into its own directory. When I run pine.exe it asks me where my inbox is stored. I provide a path to my local inbox, and save it in the pinerc file. Pine then beeps at me and tells me that no such folder exists! I've checked the spelling, case (not that case should matter on a PC), and pathname. All are correct. I've tried it both with and without "inbox" on the end of the path... I've tried it with and without a leading C:... I've tried putting my inbox in the root of C:... All to no avail. Pine hates me. It won't read my mailbox. I really want to use this program can anyone help? -- Eric Penn STUPID's three rules to life: stupid@crl.com Stick with what you're good at, http://www.crl.com/~stupid/ Learn from your mistakes, and "stoo" When in doubt, act stupid! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 02:09:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24193; Wed, 27 Mar 96 02:09:03 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22419; Wed, 27 Mar 96 02:06:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22413; Wed, 27 Mar 96 02:06:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1s5v-00038FC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 02:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: weyers@sugra.desy.de (Peter J. Weyers) Subject: Re: Tin & signature file Date: 27 Mar 1996 08:41:45 GMT Message-Id: <4jav09$s2h@dscomsa.desy.de> References: <4ifd4g$20u@white.lambton.on.ca> <4iijoj$25k@fu-berlin.de> <4jah29$4bkm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Javier Hernandez (fjherna@ibm.net) wrote: : Can anyone of you tell me how I can do to put the signature file at : the end of the message because when I choose to reply with the content As it was state some days ago: Set the signature-at-bottom option in the setup menu. Peter ____________ ------- | | ---------------------------------------------------- | H E R A | Peter J. Weyers | ___---| |___--- |||| DESY -F15- Geb. 62 Phone: +40-8998-3561 ___--- -- |||| Notkestrasse 85 Fax : -8998-2950(expected) ----------[ ]-------| D - 22603 Hamburg -8994-4306(not " ) | -- B | '____________' http://sugra.desy.de/user/weyers/home.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 02:18:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24622; Wed, 27 Mar 96 02:18:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22600; Wed, 27 Mar 96 02:15:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22594; Wed, 27 Mar 96 02:15:06 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 27 Mar 1996 10:12:25 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA05416; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 10:13:32 GMT Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 10:13:32 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: DearOldDad Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Q] Mark a read mail unread (new) In-Reply-To: <4ithgl$7af@guava.epix.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The following is indeed true, but you may also need to enable the "*" command first of all ... it is not available by default. Go to the Main Menu, then type S followed by C to get to the Setup Configuration screen. Look down the list for "enable-flag-command" (or similar, I forget the exact name) and check it. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 22 Mar 1996, DearOldDad wrote: > support (support@libhitech.com) wrote: > : Is it possible in pine to read the mail and still have 'N' next to the message? > > Yup, * (shift + 8) then n ... now, why do ya want to do this ... who's > mail are you reading?? ... only a thought ... G'Day > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 02:27:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25106; Wed, 27 Mar 96 02:27:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08866; Wed, 27 Mar 96 02:19:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.NL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08852; Wed, 27 Mar 96 02:19:10 -0800 Received: from taski by ns.NL.net via EUnet id AA10962 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Wed, 27 Mar 1996 10:40:42 +0100 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 09:33:40 +0100 (MET) From: Kees de Bruin X-Sender: bruin@pori Reply-To: Kees de Bruin To: Pine Info mailing list Subject: New feature: Fcc determination using Fcc field in address book? Message-Id: X-Mail-Reader: Pine version 3.92 on Linux/ELF X-Attribution: KdB Organization: Tasking Software B.V. The Netherlands Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When I select an address from the address book and this address has an Fcc defined, this Fcc is not used in the Fcc header of the mail message being composed. For example, if I want to sent mail to this list, I want all mail to be stored in my folder for Pine. Problem is that I can only define a single Fcc ("sent-mail") or extract the correct Fcc from the address, but in many situations, I don't want to use the generated Fcc, but the Fcc I define in the address book. However, when I want to save a message to a folder, Pine can take the Fcc from the address book and use this as the destination folder. It would be nice if this also applies to the composed messages. Kees. _ | | __ .-. .-. Kees de Bruin Tasking Software BV __________ | |/ / _| | | |_ |________## | ( / _ | | _ \ bruin@tasking.nl +31-33-4 55 85 84 |______#### |_|\_\ \___| |___/ fax: +31-33-4 55 00 33 |____###### |__######## After all is said and done, more is said than done |########## From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 02:30:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25368; Wed, 27 Mar 96 02:30:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09015; Wed, 27 Mar 96 02:27:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from maze.vsc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09009; Wed, 27 Mar 96 02:27:41 -0800 Received: from localhost by maze.vsc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/27Sep94-0126PM) id AA14653; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 05:28:18 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 05:28:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael H. Martel" To: Steve Lowe Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, Steve Lowe wrote: > > Using Pine 3.92 on Dec Unix, I get the following message every time that > > I reply to a message: > > > > [Can't create .addressbook.lu, using temp file] > > > I noticed the same error except it occurs on the globaladdressbook.lu > file. Thanks for the info. I verified a few things and found out that I'm getting this message because of a global addressbook that I don't have rights to update. Thanks! Michael ------------------------------o--------------------------------- Michael H. Martel | Vermont State Colleges michael@maze.vsc.edu | Technical Support Specialist http://www.vsc.edu/~michael | PH:802-241-2535 FX:802-241-3363 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 02:53:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26441; Wed, 27 Mar 96 02:53:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23182; Wed, 27 Mar 96 02:47:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from elysium.uwa.edu.au by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23176; Wed, 27 Mar 96 02:47:19 -0800 Received: from tartarus.uwa.edu.au (dbuckr@tartarus.uwa.edu.au [130.95.128.3]) by elysium.uwa.edu.au (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA03943 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 18:49:45 +0800 (WST) Received: from localhost (dbuckr@localhost) by tartarus.uwa.edu.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA31016 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 18:47:02 +0800 (WST) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 18:47:02 +0800 (WST) From: David Rogers To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: importing test files Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please help - i have recieved a document written in Word but imported thru pine - but now i can't read it. I've tried saving it to my home directory but then I don't know how to get into that! Ta From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 03:14:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27205; Wed, 27 Mar 96 03:14:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23561; Wed, 27 Mar 96 03:11:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23555; Wed, 27 Mar 96 03:11:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1t73-00038VC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 03:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= Subject: Re: Mail-forwarding? Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 06:19:46 +0200 Message-Id: References: <4iq3h0$72@mckinley.cit.macalstr.edu> <4j4itq$t2g@shellx.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, Fred Ringel wrote: > > After you do what is below, then how do you tell people who are writing > > you at the old address that you have a new one, I mean, automatically? > > > Automatically? I don't know. They can find out if they are > technically adept at using sendmail by telneting to the correct port and > expanding the address (I believe). ...Only if they think to do so. One possibility, if your site is running the latest sendmail, is to use the REDIRECT feature, which can be used to mail a message back to the sender telling them to send the mail to your new address. Your System Administrator will need to set this up. Barry Bouwsma Radio Praha, Czech it out From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 03:15:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27254; Wed, 27 Mar 96 03:15:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23553; Wed, 27 Mar 96 03:11:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23547; Wed, 27 Mar 96 03:11:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1t71-00038TC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 03:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bm71569@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca (Jamie Royer) Subject: Re: IMAP Folder Problems Message-Id: <1996Mar25.200302.7807@venus.gov.bc.ca> Date: 25 Mar 96 20:03:02 PST References: <3152DB03.41C5@engin.umich.edu> Jimmy Wan writes: >I'm having some problems getting my folders to work correctly. >Apparently, I have only my INBOX on the mail server, and all of my >folders are located in my Unix account space in the mail directory. >Is there a workaround to be able to access these folders? As it >stands right now, I can only access them if I am using Unix Pine. > >Jimmy Wan University of Michigan-Computer Engineering >Turtle Beach Maui Page http://www-personal.umich.edu/~vecna/maui.html Here is what I have: inbox-path={themis.ag.gov.bc.ca}INBOX folder-collections={themis.ag.gov.bc.ca}/home/bm71569/mail/[] I'm currently having problems with having to continuously logon. Look at INBOX, logon, look at Folders, logon, etc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jamie Royer Tel: (604) 775-2879 Senior Programmer Fax: (604) 775-2880 GAEA Management & Consulting Ltd. E-Mail: jroyer@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca Burnaby, BC, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- My opinions may be wrong, but at least they're my own. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 03:15:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27287; Wed, 27 Mar 96 03:15:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09850; Wed, 27 Mar 96 03:11:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09844; Wed, 27 Mar 96 03:11:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1t71-00038FC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 03:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bm71569@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca (Jamie Royer) Subject: Re: Problem with PC Pine 3.92 Message-Id: <1996Mar25.195449.7806@venus.gov.bc.ca> Date: 25 Mar 96 19:54:49 PST References: <4irt15$sis@yuma.acns.colostate.edu> thadley@cvmbs2.vetmed.colostate.edu (Thom Hadley) writes: > This is most likely my stupidity but when I am using the PC-PINE 3.92 > product under Windows95 and trying to connect to an AIX 3.2.5 box I > get the following message vth.colostate.edu connection refused. I > have the inbox setting in the configuation file as: > {cvmbs2.vetmed.colostate.edu}INBOX. Can anyone help? Are you using imapd or POP? Looking at your inbox setting, you are trying to use imapd (it is the default). If you are using imapd, is it running on the AIX machine? See "technotes.txt" for information. If you are using POP, your inbox setting should be: {cvmbs2.vetmed.colostate.edu/pop3}INBOX ^^^^^ Don't ask me what needs to be running on AIX to make POP work. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jamie Royer Tel: (604) 775-2879 Senior Programmer Fax: (604) 775-2880 GAEA Management & Consulting Ltd. E-Mail: jroyer@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca Burnaby, BC, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- My opinions may be wrong, but at least they're my own. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 03:18:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27358; Wed, 27 Mar 96 03:18:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09858; Wed, 27 Mar 96 03:11:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09852; Wed, 27 Mar 96 03:11:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1t72-00038UC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 03:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bm71569@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca (Jamie Royer) Subject: Re: Pine-PC Message-Id: <1996Mar25.200754.7808@venus.gov.bc.ca> Date: 25 Mar 96 20:07:51 PST References: Rasheed Baqai writes: > Just a quick question that I lookeed up at washington.edu, but I just > wanted to clarify it to make sure I got it right. > > Unix Pine has message folders that save all the messages together > into one file. Now, does PC pine do the same thing so that I could > simply copy those files onto my PC and Pine would understand them the > equally? I read a message in this group earlier today that said the Unix and PC files are in different formats. It said to "save" (or copy?) messages from the Unix folder to a PC folder using built-in Pine functions. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jamie Royer Tel: (604) 775-2879 Senior Programmer Fax: (604) 775-2880 GAEA Management & Consulting Ltd. E-Mail: jroyer@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca Burnaby, BC, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- My opinions may be wrong, but at least they're my own. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 03:30:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27638; Wed, 27 Mar 96 03:30:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10009; Wed, 27 Mar 96 03:26:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10003; Wed, 27 Mar 96 03:26:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1tM3-00038FC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 03:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dag Kristian Rognlien Subject: Folders Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 16:31:48 +0100 Message-Id: <31580DE4.41C6@pvv.unit.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I use both netscape and pine to read my mail, and I have some questions about setting up folders in pine. First I wonder if pine can get the mail in $MAIL at startup and automaticly putting it in another folder. Second how can I get Pine to accept a file that already exist as a folder third can I share the same folders in netscape as in pine If there is a faq that can solve my problem please tell me. Thanks for anny information -- /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~/~~\ | Dag Kristian Rognlien |____| | | | E-Mail: dagr@pvv.utni.no | | WWW: http://www.stud.unit.no/~dagr | | | /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~/ | \_________________________________________\__/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 04:25:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29652; Wed, 27 Mar 96 04:25:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24563; Wed, 27 Mar 96 04:21:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24557; Wed, 27 Mar 96 04:21:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1uCV-00038TC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 04:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tr42@mucc.mahidol.ac.th (Internet training) Subject: New test Date: 27 Mar 1996 07:20:04 GMT Message-Id: <4jaq74$c18@mars.mahidol.ac.th> n +++ ps:internet.test Hello everyone From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 05:09:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00811; Wed, 27 Mar 96 05:09:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24991; Wed, 27 Mar 96 05:01:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24985; Wed, 27 Mar 96 05:01:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1une-00038TC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 04:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@guava.epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Tin & signature file Date: 26 Mar 1996 13:17:24 GMT Message-Id: <4j8qp4$m34@guava.epix.net> References: <4ifd4g$20u@white.lambton.on.ca> <4iijoj$25k@fu-berlin.de> Sven Guckes (guckes@math.fu-berlin.de) wrote: : rupfold@white.lambton.on.ca (Rod Upfold) writes: : >Does the "Tin" news reader not like "Pico" signature files : Why should tin look at the setup used by pine? : Why should pine look at the setup used by tin? : Why don't you setup both tin and pine to use the same signature file? : Why don't you RTFM? What Sven is trying to say (although not very tactfully) is that PINE and TIN are 2 different programs. PICO on the other hand is a word processor (actually an editor) that PINE uses by default (although you can change that). It makes no difference what 'editor' you use to make your .signature file with (you could make it with pico, vi, any other editor), what matters is that the 'program' you are using be told to look for a file, where to look for it, and to attach it, and where to attach it, and maybe even when to attach it. Hope this helps. BYE. (sig follows) /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/___/_email_dad@epix.net_|_____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 05:10:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00839; Wed, 27 Mar 96 05:10:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11379; Wed, 27 Mar 96 05:01:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11373; Wed, 27 Mar 96 05:01:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1umR-00038FC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 04:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chester Paul S'groi Subject: Re: How to get pine to forward full header when forwarding mesg? Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 16:33:39 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 26 Mar 1996, Jie Gao wrote: > When I forward mesg from pine, it chops header information to just "date: > from: subject". How can I get it forward the full header? > > Thanks in advance. Do you mean that pine will not display the entire header when forwarding messages or that it somehow loses the forwarding information in the process of forwarding mail? Have you tried pressing the 'h' key while examining a forwarded message? Just a thought... NAME: Chester Paul S'groi (Pax Christi) OCCUPATION: Student of Religious Studies & Academic Computing Support Staff E-MAIL: cps1@axe.humboldt.edu, cps1@sorrel.humboldt.edu, HOME PAGE: http://www.humboldt.edu/~cps1, nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~csgroi ADDRESS: Post Office Box 4346 - Arcata, CA 95518-4346 U.S.A. WORK PHONE: (707) 826 - 4484 HOME PHONE: (707) 822 - 1234 SAYING: "Curiosity may have killed the cat but a cat has nine lives!" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 05:11:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00895; Wed, 27 Mar 96 05:11:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11457; Wed, 27 Mar 96 05:06:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11451; Wed, 27 Mar 96 05:06:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1usG-00038FC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 05:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@guava.epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: incoming mail Date: 26 Mar 1996 13:40:27 GMT Message-Id: <4j8s4b$m34@guava.epix.net> References: <4irl5k$7h9@Twain.MO.NET> Huffy (huffy@Walden.mo.net) wrote: : Hi!! Could somebody please send me some info on how to fix certain : incoming mail to go into certain folders instead of all my mail going : into my inbox. The reason I'm asking is that I'm sub to bunches of : listserv email list and I don't want them all coming into my inbox. Can : this be done? Thanks : Chris Yes, but ... not with PINE alone (at least not with 3.91, dunno about 3.92 but I don't think so from what I have read) ... you need a mail filtering program such as PROCMAIL (there are others). BYE. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 05:26:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01153; Wed, 27 Mar 96 05:26:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25173; Wed, 27 Mar 96 05:16:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25167; Wed, 27 Mar 96 05:16:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1v2m-00038FC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 05:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Nugent Subject: Re: Problem with Pico editor Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <4j5oi2$pob@newnews.iafrica.com> <4j5rlh$j2r@dscomsa.desy.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4j5rlh$j2r@dscomsa.desy.de> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 07:39:35 GMT On 25 Mar 1996, Peter J. Weyers wrote: >: I have recently downloaded and compiled the pico editor. It is just >: what I was looking for - nice and easy for new users. > >: I have two issues I would like some help on. > >: 1. The help tells me that Ctrl-^ is used to select text. I cannot >: seem to get this right > >Maybe the character is caught by your Terminals(server). You could type > <^> instead of . (Works with any control character in >pico) Sometimes Shift-Ctrl-^ works, or just ^6 (ie. unshifted). Depends on how the platform handles the keyboard. David Nugent, Microsystems Technical Support Unique Computing Pty Limited, Melbourne, Australia PC/LAN/UNIX Communications Software Development From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 05:26:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01186; Wed, 27 Mar 96 05:26:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11560; Wed, 27 Mar 96 05:16:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11554; Wed, 27 Mar 96 05:16:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1v2m-00038TC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 05:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: James Shattuck Subject: Q: How to make messages read-only? Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 20:40:43 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I download mail from home on Netscape 2.01 as well as read it from school, and there is already a file in my inbox that the IMAP server uses that is read-only. How can I make other messages that I receive read-only? Thanks ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ James Alan Shattuck Computer Science Major Disabled Student Services - High Tech Center CSU, Chico 898-5959 DSS Home Page: http://www.csuchico.edu/dss/ Born: 9/3/63 Adopted: 7/71 as Anthony Douglas, San Francisco, Ca Searching for Birth Family Adoption Home Page: http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~progman/adoption ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 06:39:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02957; Wed, 27 Mar 96 06:39:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26226; Wed, 27 Mar 96 06:33:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from torcon.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26220; Wed, 27 Mar 96 06:33:31 -0800 Received: from tdch.torcon.com (tdch.torcon.com [205.207.142.50]) by torcon.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id JAA05404 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 09:32:41 -0500 Received: (from mvelema@localhost) by tdch.torcon.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id JAA13831; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 09:39:45 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 09:39:43 -0500 (EST) From: mvelema To: pine institute Subject: credit Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII can you send me some e-mail to prove to my teacher that i can use this program (pine) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 06:44:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03186; Wed, 27 Mar 96 06:44:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12566; Wed, 27 Mar 96 06:37:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from maze.vsc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12560; Wed, 27 Mar 96 06:37:46 -0800 Received: from localhost by maze.vsc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/27Sep94-0126PM) id AA15515; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 09:38:23 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 09:38:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael H. Martel" Reply-To: "Michael H. Martel" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Behavioral Change in TAB/enable-incoming-folders option ? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings! I have Pine3.92 running on an DEC OSF box. In my .pinerc, and in the main menu config, I have enabled the enable-incoming-folders feature. I then have a moderate size list of incoming mail folders (about 30) that I have procmail filter mail to. This all worked fine under Pine3.91, and it still works, kind of in 3.92. In Pine3.91 when I was in my main INBOX and press TAB, it would then cycle through my incoming folder collection. This collection includes four IMAP servers, which I use the new /user= feature with, and about 26 (or so) local folders. Pine3.91 would check each folder, and then stop on the next folder that had messages that I had not seen (Note that I do distinguish between the NEW and SEEN flags, so I know it's normal for Pine to skip folders that have NEW messages). When I press TAB in Pine3.92, all is great, while I am going through the remote IMAP mail boxes. HOWEVER, when I get to the first local folder that has new mail, Pine displays the new mail and then continues checking the next folder, the one after that and so on! If Pine then finds another folder with new mail in it, I am jumped into that folder and Pine then continues to search again, until it finds no more folders (Pine3.91 used to prompt to return to the INBOX at this time). It then leaves me in the last folder I was in. Has anyone seen this before ? Thanks! Michael ------------------------------o--------------------------------- Michael H. Martel | Vermont State Colleges michael@maze.vsc.edu | Technical Support Specialist http://www.vsc.edu/~michael | PH:802-241-2535 FX:802-241-3363 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 07:05:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03662; Wed, 27 Mar 96 07:05:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12942; Wed, 27 Mar 96 07:02:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from admin.aurora.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12936; Wed, 27 Mar 96 07:02:48 -0800 Received: by admin.aurora.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA24765; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 09:06:08 -0600 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 09:06:06 -0600 (CST) From: Steve Lowe To: Steve Hubert Cc: Pine Information List Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 Aborts In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Steve -- Question -- Has Pine 3.92 been officially released? Or are we still testing? Should I wait for 3.93 for my user community or go with Pine 3.92? TIA. -- Steve Lowe Aurora University slowe@admin.aurora.edu 708 844 5290 On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, Steve Hubert wrote: > Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 22:32:32 -0800 (PST) > From: Steve Hubert > To: Steve Lowe > Cc: Pine Information List > Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 Aborts > > Thank you, > It will be fixed in maintenance release 3.93. > > Steve Hubert > Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle > > > On Mon, 25 Mar 1996, Steve Lowe wrote: > > > Problem -- Pine 3.92 aborts when attempting to edit a partially completed > > entry in your addressbook. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 07:07:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03776; Wed, 27 Mar 96 07:07:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26692; Wed, 27 Mar 96 07:01:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26680; Wed, 27 Mar 96 07:01:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1whl-00038FC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 07:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Sergey A. Nikolaev" Subject: enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 15:58:59 +0300 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi. I set up the enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation option, but pine 3.92 persist on MIME encoding. MTA on our IRIX is sendmail 8.6.9. If I send an e-mail message in russian using mail program it goes fine without MIME encoding or 8th bit striping. I tried to start sendmail with 8BITMIME option, but this didn't help. Does anybody know how to handle it? Thanks. Sergey A. Nikolaev nikolaev@pnpi.spb.ru Computer Systems Department phone: 007-812-71-463-56 at St. Petersburg's Nuclear fax: 007-812-71-462-56 Physics Institute From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 07:10:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03943; Wed, 27 Mar 96 07:10:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13018; Wed, 27 Mar 96 07:06:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13012; Wed, 27 Mar 96 07:06:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1wlx-00038FC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 07:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bdearden@utk.edu (Boyd Dearden) Subject: Pine 3.92 Message- Mailbox Internal Data Date: 26 Mar 1996 17:19:38 GMT Message-Id: <4j98va$gb6@gaia.ns.utk.edu> Have install Pine 3.92 on AIX machines as well as IMAP and POP3d. Everything works fine. When I pop to AIX machine the following message is left in the Pine inbox. From: Mailer-Deamon Subject: Don't Delete This Message -- Mailbox internal Data. This message contains status for IMAP and POP servers. What does this message mean? What happens if a user deletes it? Boyd Dearden Stat. & Comp. Serv. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 08:34:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06462; Wed, 27 Mar 96 08:34:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28298; Wed, 27 Mar 96 08:26:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28290; Wed, 27 Mar 96 08:26:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1y04-00038FC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 08:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chester Paul S'groi Subject: Re: help Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:24:24 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 26 Mar 1996, David Andre wrote: > help > > > > David Andre Why are headphones marked with a 'L' and 'R'? > So you can tell your left gonad from your right gonad. NAME: Chester Paul S'groi (Pax Christi) OCCUPATION: Student of Religious Studies & Academic Computing Support Staff E-MAIL: cps1@axe.humboldt.edu, cps1@sorrel.humboldt.edu, HOME PAGE: http://www.humboldt.edu/~cps1, nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~csgroi ADDRESS: Post Office Box 4346 - Arcata, CA 95518-4346 U.S.A. WORK PHONE: (707) 826 - 4484 HOME PHONE: (707) 822 - 1234 SAYING: "Curiosity may have killed the cat but a cat has nine lives!" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 08:38:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06674; Wed, 27 Mar 96 08:38:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28398; Wed, 27 Mar 96 08:30:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Farstar.secapl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28392; Wed, 27 Mar 96 08:30:49 -0800 Received: from fozzie.secapl.com (Fozzie.secapl.com [192.131.46.3]) by Farstar (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA71642; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 10:28:47 -0600 Received: from localhost by fozzie.secapl.com with SMTP id AA180596 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 27 Mar 1996 11:31:26 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 11:31:24 -0500 (EST) From: Tony Iannotti Reply-To: Tony Iannotti To: Jamie Royer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problem with PC Pine 3.92 In-Reply-To: <1996Mar25.195449.7806@venus.gov.bc.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 25 Mar 1996, Jamie Royer wrote: > If you are using POP, your inbox setting should be: > {cvmbs2.vetmed.colostate.edu/pop3}INBOX > ^^^^^ > Don't ask me what needs to be running on AIX to make POP work. Qualcomm's popper works well. They have a selection and links at: http://www.qualcomm.com/ProdTech/quest/techsupport/techsup.html#hostreq From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 09:40:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09689; Wed, 27 Mar 96 09:40:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16335; Wed, 27 Mar 96 09:32:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16329; Wed, 27 Mar 96 09:32:35 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19913; Wed, 27 Mar 96 09:32:30 -0800 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 09:32:30 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Steve Lowe Cc: Pine Information List Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 Aborts In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Steve -- > > Question -- Has Pine 3.92 been officially released? Or are we still > testing? Should I wait for 3.93 for my user community or go with Pine > 3.92? > > TIA. > > -- Steve Lowe > Aurora University slowe@admin.aurora.edu > 708 844 5290 Pine 3.92 has definitely been released, but of course we are still testing :-). Whether or not you want to go with 3.92 in production or not depends on how much of a risk taker you are. The plan is to have 3.93 be more solid than 3.92. It will be a mostly bug-fix release. However, some of the bugs are logic bugs that are requiring some significant rewriting, so there's no guarantee that 3.93 will be more stable than 3.92, just an expectation that it will be. We are using 3.92 in production on the Univ. of Washington central computing systems. There are some known bugs (like the one you reported). Steve Hubert From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 09:45:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09872; Wed, 27 Mar 96 09:45:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00198; Wed, 27 Mar 96 09:29:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00168; Wed, 27 Mar 96 09:28:34 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id SAA21140; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 18:26:10 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 18:26:09 +0100 (MET) From: Vladimir Solnicky =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=28Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD=29?= Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=3D=3FISO-8859-2=3FQ=3FVladim=3DEDr_Solnick=3DFD=3F=3D?= To: "Sergey A. Nikolaev" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DATIA_AV_=C8R=3B_Pod_vod=E1renskou_v=EC=BE=ED?= =?ISO-8859-2?Q?_4=3B_182_08__Praha_8-Libe=F2=3B_Czech_Rep?= =?ISO-8859-2?Q?ublic?= Acknowledge-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Organizace: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_AV_=C8?= =?ISO-8859-2?Q?R_=28=DATIA=29?= Transport-Options: /delivery /return Read-Receipt-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Return-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, Sergey A. Nikolaev wrote: > Hi. I set up the enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation option, but pine 3.92 > persist on MIME encoding. MTA on our IRIX is sendmail 8.6.9. > If I send an e-mail message in russian using mail program it goes fine > without MIME encoding or 8th bit striping. I tried to start sendmail wi= th > 8BITMIME option, but this didn't help. Sendmail 8.6.* does not support 8BITMIME. You need a newer version (I think the newest and stable enough is 8.7.5--we are runnig it here for some time). In fact, version 8.6.9 have some serious security bugs so there are also security reasons to upgrade. Having upgraded you have to set the pine `smtp-server' variable to the machine running this new sendmail (`localhost' is enough for sendmail running on the same machine. But it is necessary to set up the mailertable using smtp8 mailer for all domains being 8bit clean and using older sendmails (not 8.7.*) and important to install new sendmail wherever possible. Hope it helps. V. S. | | Bc. Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD (US-ASCII: Vladimir Solnicky) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 6884677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz ftp.utia.cas.cz http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-en.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 09:54:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10245; Wed, 27 Mar 96 09:54:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00565; Wed, 27 Mar 96 09:45:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00559; Wed, 27 Mar 96 09:45:49 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20132; Wed, 27 Mar 96 09:45:48 -0800 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 09:45:47 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Pine News Group Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is exactly right, and is unavoidable unless everyone is using 3.92. Once the majority of the users are using 3.92, the administrator ought to remake that .lu file and then the message will go away. In the meantime, if some people are using 3.91 and some are using 3.92, one or the other group will have to see this message, because the format of the .lu file changed between 3.91 and 3.92. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Michael H. Martel wrote: > On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, Steve Lowe wrote: > > > > > Using Pine 3.92 on Dec Unix, I get the following message every time that > > > I reply to a message: > > > > > > [Can't create .addressbook.lu, using temp file] > > > Thanks for the info. I verified a few things and found out that I'm > getting this message because of a global addressbook that I don't have > rights to update. Thanks! > > Michael From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 09:57:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10399; Wed, 27 Mar 96 09:57:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16641; Wed, 27 Mar 96 09:43:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16635; Wed, 27 Mar 96 09:43:30 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20081; Wed, 27 Mar 96 09:42:29 -0800 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 09:42:28 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Kees de Bruin Cc: Pine Info mailing list Subject: Re: New feature: Fcc determination using Fcc field in address book? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Kees de Bruin wrote: > However, when I want to save a message to a folder, Pine can take the Fcc > from the address book and use this as the destination folder. It would be > nice if this also applies to the composed messages. > > Kees. That's how it's supposed to work. The fcc from the address book should always override any fcc-rule that you may have set. If it's not working, there may be a bug we need to fix. If you can tell us exactly what keystrokes you go through to get this to happen, that would help. One possible confusing point: If you go into the composer and then use ^T to select an address for the To field, the fcc won't show up until you move out of the To field. Thanks. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 09:59:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10559; Wed, 27 Mar 96 09:59:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16605; Wed, 27 Mar 96 09:41:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16599; Wed, 27 Mar 96 09:41:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1zCU-00038FC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 09:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: richw@yank.kitchener.on.ca (Rich Wales) Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 mail sending problems? Date: 27 Mar 1996 11:17:47 -0500 Message-Id: <19960327160409.richw@yank.kitchener.on.ca> References: <4iumee$h9d@clem.mscd.edu> aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu (Ashok Aiyar) wrote: Yes! I have seen this exact same problem on on two different different Linux boxes (one running sendmail- 8.7.3, and the other running sendmail-8.7.5). The problem may have something to do with the Sendmail command Pine is using to send the mail. I ran into the following two snags when I first tried to bring up Pine 3.92 on a BSD/OS (BSDI) 2.01 system: (1) Sendmail on this system is /usr/sbin/sendmail. Pine was trying to invoke the nonexistent /usr/lib/sendmail, obviously without success. If Ashok's Linux system doesn't have a /usr/lib/sendmail, I suppose this could account for his problem. (2) I examined my personal ".pinerc" file and included Sendmail's true path name as follows: sendmail-path=/usr/sbin/sendmail However, mail still bounced, albeit in a slightly different way. Pine didn't give me any errors, but everything I tried to send wound up in my ~/dead.letter file. It turns out that if you use a "sendmail-path" value, you must give not only the path name to Sendmail, but also the command line argu- ments to be used when calling Sendmail. The following configuration line seemed to work fine: sendmail-path=/usr/sbin/sendmail -oi -oem -t In the end, since it happens that I have sysadmin-level control over the system in question, I became superuser and created a symbolic link from /usr/lib/sendmail to /usr/sbin/sendmail. Presumably, I could have gone into pine/osdep/os-bsi.h and changed the "#define SENDMAIL" to use the correct path (i.e., /usr/sbin/sendmail). Since setting up this link and commenting out the "sendmail-path" line, I can send mail without diffi- culty using Pine 3.92. Rich Wales http://yank.kitchener.on.ca/~richw/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 10:15:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11047; Wed, 27 Mar 96 10:15:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00992; Wed, 27 Mar 96 10:02:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00986; Wed, 27 Mar 96 10:02:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u1zUS-00038TC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 09:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dominic@cs.ust.hk (Dominic Lai) Subject: Re: Content-Type: application/pgp - how to decode? Date: 25 Mar 1996 05:47:23 GMT Message-Id: <4j5c1b$srt@ustsu10.ust.hk> References: <4j0fp3$1lg@spinnaker.rhein.de> <4j59bq$srt@ustsu10.ust.hk> Roland Rosenfeld (roland@spinnaker.rhein.de) wrote: : I got some mail with "Content-Type: application/pgp" in the header. : Pine does not want to show this directly but Pine thinks that this is : a MIME attachment. : So I added the Line : application/pgp; /usr/local/bin/pgp : to mailcap but this does not seem to work :-( : What am I doing wrong? Yes, this attachment type header is generated by ELM ME version. I had been looking at the source code for 2 days and finally get a quite rude solution. Disclaimer: I do not guarantee that it works 100% correctly. Use at your own risk... :^) 1. at the file mailview.c, in pine directory, locate the portion "user_viewer = 0;" in the function void describe_mime(body, prefix, ...) 2. add the following code after the "use_viewer = 0" : /* modified by dominic@cs.ust.hk, to treat application/pgp as text/plain */ /* this is for elm-me, which produces application/pgp */ if (body->type == TYPEAPPLICATION) { if (!strucmp(body->subtype, "pgp")) { body->type = TYPETEXT; strcpy(body->subtype, "plain"); } /* this is for elm-pgp, which produces application/X-pgp-message */ else if (!strucmp(body->subtype, "X-pgp-message")) { body->type = TYPETEXT; strcpy(body->subtype, "plain"); } } 3. recompile the pine source tree My point on this hacking is to force application/pgp to be readed as text/plain, so as to allow pine to proceed running the display filter. By the way, thanks for your display filter scripts on PGP. :^) Dominic -- . Lai Chi-Yuen Dominic . dominic@cs.ust.hk Technician, Department of Computer Science ...................... The Hong Kong University of . Office : Room 4202 Science & Technology . Phone : 2358-7005 Home Page : http://www.cs.ust.hk/~dominic PGP Key is available at the URL: http://swissnet.ai.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=dominic@cs.ust.hk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 11:21:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14211; Wed, 27 Mar 96 11:21:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02928; Wed, 27 Mar 96 11:09:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nic.smsu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02922; Wed, 27 Mar 96 11:09:06 -0800 Received: from localhost by nic.smsu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA97987; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 13:09:00 -0600 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 13:09:00 -0600 (CST) From: Tomb Walter E To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Problem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, my name is Eric Tomb, and I have had some problems with the new pine configuration. Every time I write a message to someone, it tells me that my file is too large or that it can't copy my message to sent-mail. Also, at the bottom of the screen, it says "Error closing file" I've typed a couple of long messages, only to have them erased because I didn't have enough space or something. I never had this problem before, is there something that can be done? Thank you, Eric Tomb wet223s@nic.smsu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 11:55:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15921; Wed, 27 Mar 96 11:55:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20221; Wed, 27 Mar 96 11:47:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20215; Wed, 27 Mar 96 11:47:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u21At-00038FC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 11:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fuzzy@ASARian.org (Fuzzy) Subject: local news with pine? Date: 26 Mar 1996 09:19:43 -0500 Message-Id: <4j8udv$p6n@ASARian.org> we have both a locally spooled usenet, (for a few newsgroups), and a NNTP/NNRP host to use for other newsgroups not stored locally. we'd like to be able to use the local news spool to read/post those newsgroups we do carry, and to use NNTP to access the remote newsserver for those we do not carry. 3.91 doesn't seem to have an easy way to define 2 news sites, 1 via nntp the other via local reads (from newsspool). obviously the sets of newsgroups will have differnet local article numbers, but we were unable to find how to tell pine to use an alternate .newsrc file (.newsrc is setup with the article numbers from the remote newsserver, .lnewsrc is setup with local article numbers. tin has a option to use an alternate .newsrc file so we can handle this there ok. how do we define an alternate .newsrc for pine to use seperate from the .newsrc that is used when accessing the remote newsserver? thanks again... Fuzzy sysadmin, asarian.org -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 12:07:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16513; Wed, 27 Mar 96 12:07:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04450; Wed, 27 Mar 96 11:57:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04444; Wed, 27 Mar 96 11:57:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u21Ir-00038TC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 11:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= Subject: Re: enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 19:56:55 +0200 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, Sergey A. Nikolaev wrote: > Hi. I set up the enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation option, but pine 3.92 > persist on MIME encoding. MTA on our IRIX is sendmail 8.6.9. BSD Sendmail only started to advertise 8BITMIME starting from 8.7 -- the latest release is 8.7.5. In order for Pine to pass the message as C-T-E: 8BIT to the sendmail program, you must be speaking with some ESMTP server which supports 8BITMIME (one of many ESMTP options). Because your 8.6.9 sendmail cannot claim 8BITMIME (talk to it with EHLO to see what it supports), Pine resorts to doing the MIME conversion itself. If you have a compiler for your SGI, you can obtain the 8.7.5 source and compile and install. If you do not, you may have more difficulty locating a pre-compiled version. There are more than a half-dozen other MTAs I have encountered which speak 8BITMIME, including the zmailer from Finland, PMDF, some HP sendmail, the Emil package which has been added to sendmail 8.6 in Scandinavian countries, and certain MTAs which lay claim to 8BITMIME without understanding what it means. For a review of the latter, I refer you to comp.mail.mime (crossposted to .sendmail). You may encounter ``problems'' in the .ru and .su domains when sending your 8BITMIME message to others -- this has been recently discussed to death in those groups I mention. Barry Bouwsma, Radio Praha 8BITMIMEr From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 15:08:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24675; Wed, 27 Mar 96 15:08:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26669; Wed, 27 Mar 96 15:02:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26663; Wed, 27 Mar 96 15:02:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u24DH-00038FC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 15:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca (Brian Hampson) Subject: 3.92 for DG Date: 27 Mar 1996 13:15:33 Message-Id: Has anyone tried 3.92 on DG/UX Aviion? Any problems? things to watch for? B. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/---------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 15:52:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26530; Wed, 27 Mar 96 15:52:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28263; Wed, 27 Mar 96 15:46:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28250; Wed, 27 Mar 96 15:46:34 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28982; Wed, 27 Mar 96 15:46:10 -0800 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 15:46:06 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Jamie Royer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine-PC In-Reply-To: <1996Mar25.200754.7808@venus.gov.bc.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 25 Mar 1996, Jamie Royer wrote: > Rasheed Baqai writes: > > Just a quick question that I lookeed up at washington.edu, but I just > > wanted to clarify it to make sure I got it right. > > > > Unix Pine has message folders that save all the messages together > > into one file. Now, does PC pine do the same thing so that I could > > simply copy those files onto my PC and Pine would understand them the > > equally? > > I read a message in this group earlier today that said the Unix and PC > files are in different formats. It said to "save" (or copy?) messages > from the Unix folder to a PC folder using built-in Pine functions. > The default formats are indeed different, but PC-Pine should be able to _read_ a folder written in the default Berkeley Unix format. PC-Pine can only write it's default MTX format. Going the other way, Unix Pine can read and write PC-Pine MTX folders. --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 15:57:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26750; Wed, 27 Mar 96 15:57:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12168; Wed, 27 Mar 96 15:52:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12161; Wed, 27 Mar 96 15:52:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u24yV-00038FC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 15:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Finding 3.92 in UK Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 17:11:25 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I'm sorry to ask this. I have looked around, but with no success. Is pine 3.92 avialable in or near the UK. My ftp attempts to Washington (Seattle?, Spokane?) have all ended up poorly. - -jeff - -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ /** Note: I will be away from my mail from March 29 thought April 9 **/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv Comment: Processed by mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAgUBMVl2qRu6nIqxqP+5AQG8MgP+Kd/gLcVPQVAOq87rDq4G/mdDVrRMeLj1 xusuQ5pCYk74jeXCkeOEsCvrDAQ3a+fULKRTKsRoRpzB14OyMWAtRd+P8WdRl2Th HZdWYZVyTLDvkvliEpEhXO46FFAhsGTxAU+XokOA+7IJ68VqKJ76dOXuzigImdnJ tzMQtroS8m8= =xO2b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 16:15:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27861; Wed, 27 Mar 96 16:15:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29215; Wed, 27 Mar 96 16:12:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.crl.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29207; Wed, 27 Mar 96 16:12:27 -0800 Received: from w95.crl.com (crl2.crl.com) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA03382 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:03:43 -0800 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960328000718.0068e3e4@mail.crl.com> X-Sender: stupid@mail.crl.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:07:18 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Penn Subject: Need help setting up PC-PINE Help!! I'm trying to install PC-PINE. I've extracted the archive, and placed it into its own directory. When I run pine.exe it asks me where my inbox is stored. I provide a path to my local inbox, and save it in the pinerc file. Pine then beeps at me and tells me that no such folder exists! The line in pinerc reads: inbox-path=C:\PROGRAM FILES\INTERNET ACCESSORIES\INBOX which is a valid pathname. I've checked the spelling, case (not that case should matter on a PC), and pathname. All are correct. I've tried it both with and without "inbox" on the end of the path... I've tried it with and without a leading C:... I've tried putting my inbox in the root of C:... I tried putting in the old-style short names for the long directory names... All to no avail. I have also tried adding a remote mailbox with the format incoming-folders={mail.crl.com/pop3}INBOX This gets me an error message that I have an "invalid remote specification". I don't see how it is incorrect, but apparantly it is. Pine hates me. It won't read my INBOX locally, nor remotely. I really want to use this program. Pine may hate me, but I hate Eudora! Can anyone help? -- Eric Penn STUPID's three rules to life: stupid@crl.com Stick with what you're good at, http://www.crl.com/~stupid/ Learn from your mistakes, and "stoo" When in doubt, act stupid! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 16:31:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28696; Wed, 27 Mar 96 16:31:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29761; Wed, 27 Mar 96 16:27:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29755; Wed, 27 Mar 96 16:27:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u25WI-00038FC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 16:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@David.lcv.es (Javier Hernandez) Subject: How send postpone mail Pine Date: 27 Mar 1996 12:30:56 GMT Message-Id: <4jbce0$4ise@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Hi All, I did used yesterday the option in the menu (when composing a message or replying) that is called Postpone. Does anyone how I can send those messages ? I did try to find any command that deals with that but I was not able to find it. I have notice that a folder called postponed-messages was created but I do not know how to handle it. thanks -- --------------oOo-------------------- Javi fjherna@ibm.net fj.chicha@p48.europa3.encomix.com Valencia, SPAIN  From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 18:25:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03350; Wed, 27 Mar 96 18:25:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15952; Wed, 27 Mar 96 18:07:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15946; Wed, 27 Mar 96 18:07:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u275R-00038FC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 18:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ginty@salve3.salve.edu (Gerry Ginty) Subject: Problem with Pine over SLIP Date: 27 Mar 1996 19:05:26 GMT Message-Id: <4jc3hm$lcp@unix72.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Pine is unable to locate mail host. Pine returns a message saying that it is unable to connect to host. I am using Trumpet Winsock and dial into a host and engage TIA. >From there, I attempt to connect to the mail host on the same network. There is nothing wrong with the Winsock configuration because I use Trumpet Winsock in conjunction with TIA to connect to a wide range of TCP/IP application. Please e-mail me at ginty@salve5.salve.edu Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 21:19:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06799; Wed, 27 Mar 96 21:19:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05095; Wed, 27 Mar 96 21:13:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05089; Wed, 27 Mar 96 21:13:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2A0m-00038FC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 21:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kathy@fred.net (Kathy Bilton) Subject: Re: Mail-forwarding? Date: 26 Mar 1996 14:00:41 GMT Message-Id: <4j8ta9$dr5@dec-alpha.fred.net> References: <4iq3h0$72@mckinley.cit.macalstr.edu> : On Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:14:07 GMT, Jonathan C. Willeke shared the bits and bytes to sput as follows: : : I was hoping there'd be an FAQ on the subject, and maybe there is, : : but its location is not obvious. Can someone tell me how to get PINE : : to forward all mail from one account to another? Specifically, I have : : an account with a freenet that uses PINE, and I want to forward all : : that mail to a college account until I graduate in May. Thanks. : : Gee, I thought I had posted on this one already. Simply put a : ".forward" account in your home directory with the new e-mail address : in it. Don't forget the "." in front of the name of the file. The problem here is that on most freenets, one often does not have direct access to one's home directory. To have your mail forwarded on most freenets, go to the post office where you should find an option that says something about mail forwarding. Through this, you will be able to create a .forward file. You just won't have any indication that that is the name of the file you are creating... You will just be asked to type in the address to which you want the mail forwarded. --Kathy Bilton http://www.fred.net/kathy/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 21:51:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07807; Wed, 27 Mar 96 21:51:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19191; Wed, 27 Mar 96 21:48:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19185; Wed, 27 Mar 96 21:48:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2AW2-00038TC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 21:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eigil Krogh Sorenen Subject: [Q] "-->" in Index Why? Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 03:12:37 +0100 Message-Id: <3154AF95.74A4@aar-vki.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why do I have the sign "-->" instead of highlighted lines in the left margin of the Index ? I don't want the "--->" How do I configure Pine 3.92 Win95 to highlight the selected line instead ? -- -- Eigil Krogh Sorensen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- VKI ! ! Water Quality Institute !Phone: !E-mail: Science Park Aarhus ! +45 86 20 20 00 or ! 10, Gustav Wieds Vej ! +45 86 20 20 11 local 2114 ! eks@aar-vki.dk DK-8000 Aarhus C !Fax: ! DENMARK. ! +45 86 19 75 11 ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 22:03:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08217; Wed, 27 Mar 96 22:03:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19412; Wed, 27 Mar 96 21:59:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sulu.biostat.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19406; Wed, 27 Mar 96 21:59:16 -0800 Received: from localhost by sulu.biostat.washington.edu (8.7.1/UW-NDC Revision: 2.23  id VAA27106; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 21:59:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 21:59:14 -0800 (PST) From: Michael X-Sender: levitz@sulu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Dave Fetrow Subject: PINE 3.92 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yesterday an automatic change to PINE occurred. Here are some of the problems experienced. While PINE is invoked, new messages are not signaled or registered. They are only detected after exiting PINE and seeing immediately that there are new msgs in the mail spool. New msgs are tagged 'N' to signal they are unread. After reading them the 'N' tags are removed. After exiting PINE and reentering, the previously read msgs are again tagged with 'N'. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 27 22:20:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08748; Wed, 27 Mar 96 22:20:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19708; Wed, 27 Mar 96 22:16:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-11.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19702; Wed, 27 Mar 96 22:16:08 -0800 Received: from localhost by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 28 Mar 96 14:15:13 +0800 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 14:15:12 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Eigil Krogh Sorenen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Q] "-->" in Index Why? In-Reply-To: <3154AF95.74A4@aar-vki.dk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 24 Mar 1996, Eigil Krogh Sorenen wrote: > Why do I have the sign "-->" instead of highlighted lines in the left > margin of the Index ? I don't want the "--->" How do I configure Pine > 3.92 Win95 to highlight the selected line instead ? In UNIX pine you disable: [ ] assume-slow-link But there may be other things that are causing pine to "think" you are on a slow link. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 00:08:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10353; Thu, 28 Mar 96 00:08:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21045; Thu, 28 Mar 96 00:04:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21039; Thu, 28 Mar 96 00:04:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2Cdf-00038TC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 00:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brian Duggan Subject: Blind Carbon Copy Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:22:45 -0330 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII using PINE 3.91 is there any way to Blind Carbon Copy to individuals. I regularly mail to a distribution list of 100 and all the addresses get sent with the message (which is often only a couple of lines long. It gets tedious paging through a hundred CC addresses to get the message. Thanks Brian bduggan@ganymede.cs.mun.ca or bduggan@morgan.ucs.mun.ca or bduggan@inseine.ifmt.nf.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 00:10:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10428; Thu, 28 Mar 96 00:10:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07430; Thu, 28 Mar 96 00:00:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07424; Wed, 27 Mar 96 23:59:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2CZ8-00038UC; Wed, 27 Mar 96 23:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: agill@babbage.csee.usf.edu (Adrian Gill (CS)) Subject: NewMail appears on Icon Date: 23 Mar 1996 19:53:13 GMT Message-Id: <4j1kr9$9i5@mother.usf.edu> hello there, I want to know how can I get the icons or incoming newmail on the windows95 desktop? Adrian From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 00:19:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10574; Thu, 28 Mar 96 00:19:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07573; Thu, 28 Mar 96 00:10:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07567; Thu, 28 Mar 96 00:10:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2CjB-00038TC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 00:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: c113408@black.missouri.edu (Ray Harder) Subject: pine 3.92 a beta release?? Date: 27 Mar 1996 15:20:15 GMT Message-Id: <4jbmbf$11s0@news.missouri.edu> the announce stated that pine 3.92 is a "beta" release -- their words, not mine. my question is: if i am running a pine production shop, should i move from pine 3.91 or wait for the full release. any time estimates. just looking for some guidance... ray harder From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 00:40:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11018; Thu, 28 Mar 96 00:40:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07884; Thu, 28 Mar 96 00:37:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-11.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07872; Thu, 28 Mar 96 00:37:06 -0800 Received: from localhost by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 28 Mar 96 16:36:14 +0800 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 16:36:13 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Brian Duggan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Blind Carbon Copy In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 23 Mar 1996, Brian Duggan wrote: > using PINE 3.91 is there any way to Blind Carbon Copy to individuals. I > regularly mail to a distribution list of 100 and all the addresses get > sent with the message (which is often only a couple of lines long. It > gets tedious paging through a hundred CC addresses to get the message. > Yes, there is. When you are in the address portion you can use Ctrl-R and the Bc: will appear. However, you may want to go to 3.92 since it has a nice new feature call Lcc: Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 00:48:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11129; Thu, 28 Mar 96 00:48:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21514; Thu, 28 Mar 96 00:43:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.NL.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21508; Thu, 28 Mar 96 00:43:43 -0800 Received: from taski by ns.NL.net via EUnet id AA20074 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Thu, 28 Mar 1996 09:11:16 +0100 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 07:45:20 +0100 (MET) From: Kees de Bruin X-Sender: bruin@pori Reply-To: Kees de Bruin To: Steve Hubert Cc: Pine Info mailing list Subject: Re: New feature: Fcc determination using Fcc field in address book? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mail-Reader: Pine version 3.92 on Linux/ELF X-Attribution: KdB Organization: Tasking Software B.V. The Netherlands Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Steve Hubert wrote: > On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Kees de Bruin wrote: > > > However, when I want to save a message to a folder, Pine can take the Fcc > > from the address book and use this as the destination folder. It would be > > nice if this also applies to the composed messages. > > > > Kees. > > That's how it's supposed to work. The fcc from the address book should > always override any fcc-rule that you may have set. If it's not working, > there may be a bug we need to fix. If you can tell us exactly what > keystrokes you go through to get this to happen, that would help. > > One possible confusing point: If you go into the composer and then use ^T > to select an address for the To field, the fcc won't show up until you > move out of the To field. Thanks. > I have found the problem: it was me ;-) I now set the configuration to use the default Fcc. Now I get the Fcc from the address book (if available) and otherwise the default Fcc. Kees. _ | | __ .-. .-. Kees de Bruin Tasking Software BV __________ | |/ / _| | | |_ |________## | ( / _ | | _ \ bruin@tasking.nl +31-33-4 55 85 84 |______#### |_|\_\ \___| |___/ fax: +31-33-4 55 00 33 |____###### |__######## The young think they are immortal, and are determined to |########## prove otherwise Larry Wall From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 00:59:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11332; Thu, 28 Mar 96 00:59:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21656; Thu, 28 Mar 96 00:55:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21650; Thu, 28 Mar 96 00:55:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2DPR-00038TC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 00:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eigil Krogh Sorenen Subject: [Q] imapd for Win. NT ? Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 21:16:13 +0100 Message-Id: <31545C0D.3CED@aar-vki.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Until now we have used SCO UNIX as mailserver running imapd. We are now thinking on changing to Windows NT. For that reason I'd very much like to know if a imapd version exists for Win. NT and if at all Win NT can be used as server for pine ? Thanks in advance -- -- Eigil Krogh Sorensen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- VKI ! ! Water Quality Institute !Phone: !E-mail: Science Park Aarhus ! +45 86 20 20 00 or ! 10, Gustav Wieds Vej ! +45 86 20 20 11 local 2114 ! eks@aar-vki.dk DK-8000 Aarhus C !Fax: ! DENMARK. ! +45 86 19 75 11 ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 01:15:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11883; Thu, 28 Mar 96 01:15:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08309; Thu, 28 Mar 96 01:12:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from slam.aar-vki.dk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08303; Thu, 28 Mar 96 01:12:57 -0800 Received: from vkipc26.aar-vki.dk by slam.aar-vki.dk id aa06214; 28 Mar 96 10:12 MET Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 10:11:58 +0100 () From: Eigil Krogh Sorensen To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Q] "-->" in Index Why? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: Water Quality Institute Science Park Aarhus. X-Sender: eks@slam.aar-vki.dk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks very much for your help ! - Eigil On Thu, 28 Mar 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Sun, 24 Mar 1996, Eigil Krogh Sorenen wrote: > > > Why do I have the sign "-->" instead of highlighted lines in the left > > margin of the Index ? I don't want the "--->" How do I configure Pine > > 3.92 Win95 to highlight the selected line instead ? > > In UNIX pine you disable: > > [ ] assume-slow-link > > But there may be other things that are causing pine to "think" you > are on a slow link. > > Ed > > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 01:27:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12060; Thu, 28 Mar 96 01:27:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22091; Thu, 28 Mar 96 01:25:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22085; Thu, 28 Mar 96 01:25:04 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 28 Mar 1996 09:22:30 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA23635; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 09:23:56 GMT Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 09:23:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Javier Hernandez Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How send postpone mail Pine In-Reply-To: <4jbce0$4ise@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just use the "C" command to start composing a message as usual. Before starting a new message Compose checks if any messages are currently postponed and offers you the chance to resume one of them. This is explained in the on-line help built in to the Compose Message screen (just type ^G when composing a message and look through the help for information about Postpone). Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 27 Mar 1996, Javier Hernandez wrote: > Hi All, > I did used yesterday the option in the menu (when > composing a message or replying) that is called > Postpone. > Does anyone how I can send those messages ? I did > try to find any command that deals with that but > I was not able to find it. > I have notice that a folder called postponed-messages > was created but I do not know how to handle it. > thanks > > -- > --------------oOo-------------------- > Javi > fjherna@ibm.net > fj.chicha@p48.europa3.encomix.com > Valencia, SPAIN > >  > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 02:01:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12809; Thu, 28 Mar 96 02:01:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08783; Thu, 28 Mar 96 01:53:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08777; Thu, 28 Mar 96 01:53:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2ELd-00038FC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 01:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jon@radscan.com (Jon Trulson) Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 mail sending problems? Date: 23 Mar 1996 21:13:33 GMT Message-Id: <4j1pht$j27@natasha.rmii.com> References: <4iumee$h9d@clem.mscd.edu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Ashok Aiyar (aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu) wrote: : On 22 Mar 1996 17:02:06 GMT, Jon Trulson wrote: : > I downloaded the Pine 3.92 source and compiled it on my DU box : >(OSF/1), it seems to work except when sending mail... As soon as I try to : >send mail, it immediately returns an Error, but does not tell me what that : >error is. Nor is there any indication of an error in the pine-debug files. : >I went into the source and noticed that the options passed to sendmail are : >different that the pine 3.91 version we have. I changed the options to be : >the same as out pine 3.91, but now all it does is hang, with 'Sending %0' on : >the screen. I then have to manually kill it from another xterm. : : Yes! I have seen this exact same problem on on two different : different Linux boxes (one running sendmail-8.7.3, and the other : running sendmail-8.7.5). [...] : Finally, as an interim solution, if I create a global pine : configuration file (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) and edit the : line "smtp-server=" to read as "smtp-server=localhost", Pine 3.92 : sends mail okay even with sendmail-8.7.x. : : I would be interested in learning if you can duplicate any of : the observations I have made on OSF/1, and if the workaround : mentioned above works. That did work... That is: setting smtp-server to 'localhost'. I compiled it on my unixware 2.03 box at home and had the exact same sending problem. Setting smtp-server to localhost worked there as well. This seems to be a (so far) workable solution on both the machines I've tried it on (Digital Unix (OSF/1) 3.2d and Unixware 2.03). : Cheers, : Ashok : -- : Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. : Department of Oncology aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu : Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison tel: (608) 262-6697 : - -- Jon Trulson jon@radscan.com Patent Pending - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzCuhFAAAAEEALD2lrLtr9R9SXQTU3YzmNHK8dn6Og+iFQMwdhNwpyG3g8V2 44xsCN3aCqENY/GHpGa/v+/PDCzBkacfdeIl9B5APRR0TXyiRbrnHASv1uAMVnVa KA8v9fuqIiOeSCpvpmJ1gcqDPv7TePTIjNCtVJRGfTaRwonwhSdnRfYurufRAAUR tB1Kb24gVHJ1bHNvbiA8am9uQHJhZHNjYW4uY29tPg== =MKC2 - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMVRpmCdnRfYurufRAQFfBQQAmDc+bf0pz+jXMNPq2BbuybJ8k0VAvnPO oTXhd15U6FM7MrcmmNDa9grtHvBBxuW1yUcwcSr0QAlkT/aRUUyodlpyR0wak/kR KwqSQJX+4OL/MulGIHWpm9ZuMx0KWiIOWNIxxgJzbehPAs3QLckEGwKlKmnc/BgZ kZ739ezu5SQ= =WKGL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 02:19:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13099; Thu, 28 Mar 96 02:19:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22635; Thu, 28 Mar 96 02:13:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22623; Thu, 28 Mar 96 02:13:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2EiI-00038FC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 02:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rod Upfold Subject: Re: Tin & signature file Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 13:27:54 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4ifd4g$20u@white.lambton.on.ca> <4iijoj$25k@fu-berlin.de> <4j8qp4$m34@guava.epix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4j8qp4$m34@guava.epix.net> Thank you for the information about my problem with "Tin" and signature file. Thanks again... Rod Upfold Audiovisual Department Lambton College P.O. Box 969 Sarnia, Ontario Canada N7T 7K4 Phone: 1-519-542-7751 : Ext. 282 Fax : 1-519-542-6667 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 02:20:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13131; Thu, 28 Mar 96 02:20:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22643; Thu, 28 Mar 96 02:14:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22637; Thu, 28 Mar 96 02:14:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2EiJ-00038UC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 02:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bm71569@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca (Jamie Royer) Subject: Re: IMAP Folder Problems Message-Id: <1996Mar26.110920.7818@venus.gov.bc.ca> Date: 26 Mar 96 11:09:20 PST References: <3152DB03.41C5@engin.umich.edu> <1996Mar25.200302.7807@venus.gov.bc.ca> =?ISO-8859-2?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= writes: >On 25 Mar 1996, Jamie Royer wrote: > >> Here is what I have: >> inbox-path={themis.ag.gov.bc.ca}INBOX >> folder-collections={themis.ag.gov.bc.ca}/home/bm71569/mail/[] >> I'm currently having problems with having to continuously logon. >> Look at INBOX, logon, look at Folders, logon, etc. > > This will probably become a Frequently Asked Question. > >To keep from having to enter your login, specify your username in every >folder collection. That is, >{themis.ag.gov.bc.ca} will become... >{themis.ag.gov.bc.ca/user=bm71569} > >After you do this, you will no longer need to enter your login for each >folder you access. [snip] Thanks. Part of my problem was also that my "userid" config option was set to "jroyer" and not my login "bm71569". Once I changed this and added "Reply-to" in my "customized-hdrs", I can change between folders - logging in only once. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jamie Royer Tel: (604) 775-2879 Senior Programmer Fax: (604) 775-2880 GAEA Management & Consulting Ltd. E-Mail: jroyer@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca Burnaby, BC, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- My opinions may be wrong, but at least they're my own. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 02:21:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13168; Thu, 28 Mar 96 02:21:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09066; Thu, 28 Mar 96 02:18:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09060; Thu, 28 Mar 96 02:18:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2EiK-00038VC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 02:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bm71569@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca (Jamie Royer) Subject: Re: How to put Reply-to Pine Linux Message-Id: <1996Mar26.111911.7820@venus.gov.bc.ca> Date: 26 Mar 96 11:19:11 PST References: <4j8jm5$3mmc@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> fjherna@ibm.net (Javier Hernandez) writes: >Hi All, >Can anyone explain me how can I put a ReplyTo header to >Pine? In Setup Configuration, add to "customized-hdrs": Reply-to: name@site.domain ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jamie Royer Tel: (604) 775-2879 Senior Programmer Fax: (604) 775-2880 GAEA Management & Consulting Ltd. E-Mail: jroyer@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca Burnaby, BC, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- My opinions may be wrong, but at least they're my own. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 02:22:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13193; Thu, 28 Mar 96 02:22:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09015; Thu, 28 Mar 96 02:13:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09009; Thu, 28 Mar 96 02:13:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2EiI-00038TC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 02:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Simon Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 and ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 19:27:11 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 25 Mar 1996, Nancy McGough wrote: > I'm looking forward to using the new Pine - thanks for providing a great > tool for all of the Internet! When I ask my sys admins to install it, do I > need to ask them to uncomment this line: > > #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM Yes, you need to uncomment that line if you want to be able to change your personal name on outgoing e-mails. > Or has this feature changed in any way, e.g., default is to allow changing > from or the line above has changed in some way? What is the name of the > file it's in? The default is still not to allow changing from. It's in pine/osdep/os-xxx.h, where xxx is the abbreviation for your operating system (e.g. osf). The only thing I've found that's changed is that... it doesn't work! Pine appears to let me change my name, but when I send a message out, whatever I put as my personal name, it always says "From: Simon <_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _~~ _}\ \( _ ) # E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk # \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(,_(,)' # Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk # <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>, _>, # URL: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ # From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 02:22:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13218; Thu, 28 Mar 96 02:22:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22708; Thu, 28 Mar 96 02:19:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22702; Thu, 28 Mar 96 02:18:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2EiK-00038WC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 02:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bm71569@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca (Jamie Royer) Subject: Re: Pine config. for windows 3.1 Message-Id: <1996Mar26.111625.7819@venus.gov.bc.ca> Date: 26 Mar 96 11:16:25 PST References: <31579DEB.660B@en.com> adorabl@en.com writes: >I get the following message when I try to compose new mail on my newly >downloaded pine 3.92 for windows 3.1. > >"Can't send message without an open remote folder" > >What does that mean? I am using a local server PPP with "winsock >trumpet". > >Can anyone help me with this? I got this message this morning. From the Main Menu, I pressed "I" for index, then "C" for compose. I could then compose a message. Don't ask me why. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jamie Royer Tel: (604) 775-2879 Senior Programmer Fax: (604) 775-2880 GAEA Management & Consulting Ltd. E-Mail: jroyer@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca Burnaby, BC, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- My opinions may be wrong, but at least they're my own. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 03:14:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14075; Thu, 28 Mar 96 03:14:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23286; Thu, 28 Mar 96 03:10:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from athena.bournemouth.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23280; Thu, 28 Mar 96 03:10:10 -0800 Received: by athena.bournemouth.ac.uk (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id LAA26190; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 11:08:53 GMT Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 11:02:13 +0000 From: Sunil Chamund To: Nico van der Horn Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Signature In-Reply-To: Message-Id: -100000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Sir, I have seen in the set up menu that there is some file for a signature but can you tell me how I can actually make one that will go at the end of all my messages? Thanks, Sunil Chamund. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 03:19:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14204; Thu, 28 Mar 96 03:19:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23354; Thu, 28 Mar 96 03:15:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from teco01a.teco.uni-karlsruhe.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23348; Thu, 28 Mar 96 03:15:51 -0800 Received: from teco01a by teco01a.teco.uni-karlsruhe.de (8.7.4) id MAA08406; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 12:14:28 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 12:14:28 +0100 (MET) From: Gerhard Heijenga X-Sender: heijenga@teco01a To: Eigil Krogh Sorenen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Q] imapd for Win. NT ? In-Reply-To: <31545C0D.3CED@aar-vki.dk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You can find the imapd-server for Windows NT at the University of Washington ftp.cac.washington.edu. But you must make some changes in the source code depending on what smtp-server for windows you are using. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Gerhard Heijenga eMail: heijenga@teco.uni-karlsruhe.de Veilchenstr. 9 76131 Karlsruhe Tel./Fax: 0721-617906 On Sat, 23 Mar 1996, Eigil Krogh Sorenen wrote: > Until now we have used SCO UNIX as mailserver running imapd. > > We are now thinking on changing to Windows NT. For that reason I'd very > much like to know if a imapd version exists for Win. NT and if at all > Win NT can be used as server for pine ? > > Thanks in advance > > -- > -- Eigil Krogh Sorensen > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > VKI ! ! > Water Quality Institute !Phone: !E-mail: > Science Park Aarhus ! +45 86 20 20 00 or ! > 10, Gustav Wieds Vej ! +45 86 20 20 11 local 2114 ! > eks@aar-vki.dk > DK-8000 Aarhus C !Fax: ! > DENMARK. ! +45 86 19 75 11 ! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 03:38:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14612; Thu, 28 Mar 96 03:38:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09892; Thu, 28 Mar 96 03:34:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09886; Thu, 28 Mar 96 03:34:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2FtY-00038FC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 03:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Martin Hamilton Subject: Re: Finding 3.92 in UK Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 09:15:28 GMT References: Jeffrey Goldberg writes: > I'm sorry to ask this. I have looked around, but with no success. > > Is pine 3.92 avialable in or near the UK. My ftp attempts to Washington > (Seattle?, Spokane?) have all ended up poorly. I have a copy of the source - put it up for FTP at ftp://ftp.net.lut.ac.uk/martin/pine3.92.tar.gz Toodle pip! Martin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 04:54:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16737; Thu, 28 Mar 96 04:54:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24573; Thu, 28 Mar 96 04:49:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24567; Thu, 28 Mar 96 04:49:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2H6c-00038FC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 04:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "B.R.PICKUP" Subject: Can Mail be used to affect the reader's program's character interpretation? Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 23:26:45 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have been sent a mail message that when you scroll down it it changes the characters on the screen into gibberish ... this is obviously a non harmful prank, but I was wondering if I could do something similar but non destructive ... can anyone tell me how it's done? Ben Pickup Still a Law Student at University of Hertfordshire (B.R.PICKUP@herts.ac.uk) ********************* In the twinkling of an eye ******************* * ** ** *** * * * It can never be bought, * * * * *** * * *** * * *** * * * * Can never be sold, ** *** ** * * ** * * * * *** * * * It's the greatest love story ** *** ** * * * * * *** * * * *** * * * * That's ever been told! ** *** ** * * ** * * * * * ** ** * * Is free and yet, ** ** * * *** * ********************* Cost a life. ******************* Do You Have It? Do You Want It? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 05:42:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17664; Thu, 28 Mar 96 05:42:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11600; Thu, 28 Mar 96 05:37:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from steele.ohsu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11594; Thu, 28 Mar 96 05:37:23 -0800 Received: by steele.ohsu.EDU (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA15221; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 05:37:16 -0800 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 05:37:16 -0800 (PST) From: Rosze Barrington X-Sender: barringt@steele To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a way to set up Pine so that I have two folders. One which would receive messages specifically addressed to me and the other folder for all messages incoming from listserver's, etc? Rosze Barrington barringt@ohsu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 05:49:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17819; Thu, 28 Mar 96 05:49:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25232; Thu, 28 Mar 96 05:44:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sulu.biostat.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25226; Thu, 28 Mar 96 05:44:40 -0800 Received: from localhost by sulu.biostat.washington.edu (8.7.1/UW-NDC Revision: 2.23  id FAA28009; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 05:44:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 05:44:38 -0800 (PST) From: Michael X-Sender: levitz@sulu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: More bugs Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Following yesterday's msg to whichever group writes PINE, I found I am unable to delete messages. A script comes up saying everything is READ-ONLY. Another bug is that my SENT-MAIL box has messages that are all addressed to me, i.e., the original recipient's names have been removed and replaced by my name. These bugs are becoming serious. I would like to get the old version of PINE (before 3.92) running again if possible as I never experienced any problems with it. Michael Levitz From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 06:47:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18758; Thu, 28 Mar 96 06:47:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25893; Thu, 28 Mar 96 06:39:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25887; Thu, 28 Mar 96 06:39:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2Ipm-00038VC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 06:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Can someone help me with filter? Date: 28 Mar 1996 12:39:30 GMT Message-Id: <4je1a2$bov@fu-berlin.de> References: <4i2kfo$jlp@earth.superlink.net> >Warren or Tony Lieuallen (marvin@superlink.net) wrote: >> I tried looking at the man page, but I can't figure it out. >> Can someone give me example syntax (for the rule file) to move messages with >> certain text in the subject to a specified folder? simonb@wormald.com.au (Simon Bennett) writes: >Try comp.mail.elm... It's *full* of filter posts :) There is a special page about ELM's "filter": http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/elm.filter.html Sven Cc: Warren or Tony Lieuallen (marvin@superlink.net) simonb@wormald.com.au (Simon Bennett) -- [960328] ELM - the "Easy Learn Mail" program. Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm For more info see the "ELM Pages": http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ Latest ELM release: ELM2.4PL25 [951204] patch25 fixes security bug *only* Latest ELM alpha: ELM2.5a09 [960314] ELM testers please check this! Latest ELMME+ patch: ELM2.4ME+PL14 [960326] ELMME+ is based on ELM2.4PL24ME8b+ Latest ELMPGP patch: ELMPGP6 [95????] "Supported". From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 06:47:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18766; Thu, 28 Mar 96 06:47:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12445; Thu, 28 Mar 96 06:39:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12438; Thu, 28 Mar 96 06:39:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2Ipm-00038UC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 06:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Can Mail be used to affect the reader's program's character interpretation? Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 07:32:45 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, B.R.PICKUP wrote: > I have been sent a mail message that when you scroll down it it changes > the characters on the screen into gibberish ... this is obviously a non > harmful prank, but I was wondering if I could do something similar but > non destructive ... can anyone tell me how it's done? It is probably not a wise or courteous idea to try this sort of thing, even if others do it. What happens when you put supposed control characters in a mail message all depends on the recipient's terminal hardware and software, which you, the sender, have no control over and may well not even know. It might might a harmless prank or it could cause a recipient a lot of noxious problems. Please don't do it. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 06:47:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18793; Thu, 28 Mar 96 06:47:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12453; Thu, 28 Mar 96 06:39:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12447; Thu, 28 Mar 96 06:39:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2Ipn-00038WC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 06:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: .forward question Date: 28 Mar 1996 13:00:57 GMT Message-Id: <4je2i9$cfc@fu-berlin.de> References: <4is75h$e5b@news.csus.edu> dgolden@sfsu.edu (Dave) writes: >Can one use the .forward file to forward a message and keep it in the local >inbox mailbox. Yes: Put both the forward address and you own address into the .forward and a backslash before your own local address to prevent recursion. Example: \guckes,user@domain >Or perhaps have it filed in a different mailbox after it has been forwarded? Filing must be done via a filter program. (I think) Thus you'd have to install a filter and set up the rules for it. Take a look at ELM's filter - it allows rules which read thus: if (from = address) then save ~/newmail/IN.mailing.list Info is on page http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/elm.filter.html Sven Cc: dgolden@sfsu.edu (Dave) -- [960328] ELM - the "Easy Learn Mail" program. Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm For more info see the "ELM Pages": http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ Latest ELM release: ELM2.4PL25 [951204] patch25 fixes security bug *only* Latest ELM alpha: ELM2.5a09 [960314] ELM testers please check this! Latest ELMME+ patch: ELM2.4ME+PL14 [960326] ELMME+ is based on ELM2.4PL24ME8b+ Latest ELMPGP patch: ELMPGP6 [95????] "Supported". From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 07:41:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20329; Thu, 28 Mar 96 07:41:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13241; Thu, 28 Mar 96 07:30:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13235; Thu, 28 Mar 96 07:30:16 -0800 Received: (from brennan@localhost) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA12157 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 10:30:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 10:30:11 EST From: Joe Brennan Subject: Re: Can Mail be used to affect the reader's program's character interpretation? In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 28 Mar 1996 07:32:45 -0500 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: I'm surprised that Pine makes a special case of passing the escape through (see ttyout.c, stanza on if(ch == '\033'), in 3.91). At Columbia we found we had to modify Pine and a few others to display character "?" for escape, in response to repeated user problems with terminals locking up or being set to weird displays. In Pine, if the escape is in the From or Subject lines, user cannot even see the index of messages because of the screen disruption. Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York brennan@columbia.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 07:53:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20531; Thu, 28 Mar 96 07:53:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13395; Thu, 28 Mar 96 07:35:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rec03.pnpi.spb.ru by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13387; Thu, 28 Mar 96 07:35:36 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rec03.pnpi.spb.ru (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA02771; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 15:29:52 GMT Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 18:29:50 +0300 (MSK) From: "Sergey A. Nikolaev" Reply-To: "Sergey A. Nikolaev" To: Vladimir Solnicky =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=28Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD=29?= Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Vladimir Solnicky [ISO-8859-2] (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD= ) wrote: > On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, Sergey A. Nikolaev wrote: > > > Hi. I set up the enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation option, but pine 3.92 > > persist on MIME encoding. MTA on our IRIX is sendmail 8.6.9. > > If I send an e-mail message in russian using mail program it goes fin= e > > without MIME encoding or 8th bit striping. I tried to start sendmail = with > > 8BITMIME option, but this didn't help. > > Sendmail 8.6.* does not support 8BITMIME. You need a newer version (I > think the newest and stable enough is 8.7.5--we are runnig it here for > some time). In fact, version 8.6.9 have some serious security bugs so > there are also security reasons to upgrade. Having upgraded you have to > set the pine `smtp-server' variable to the machine running this new > sendmail (`localhost' is enough for sendmail running on the same machin= e. > But it is necessary to set up the mailertable using smtp8 mailer for al= l > domains being 8bit clean and using older sendmails (not 8.7.*) and > important to install new sendmail wherever possible. > But sendmail-8.6.9 manual claims to know 8BITMIME and so does the postscript document from the doc/op directory in sendmail's distribution. I cann't say that I understand everything about terms 8BITMIME, ESMTP, "Eight-bit clean", but what I can say for sure is that 8-bit mail message= s sent with the "mail" program or sendmail (on command line) go fine between our two our systems, one of them running sendmail-8.6.9, the othe= r sendmail-8.6.12. No seven bit stripping or MIME encoding occurs. But when I use pine it always do MIME encoding on 8-bit text. Why wouldn't pine 3.92 just pass on 8bit messages to sendmail? Anyway I have just installed sendmail-8.7.5 on my IRIX 5.3 and set localhost as a smtp server, but still pine does MIME encoding. What have = I missed? Thanks. Sergey A. Nikolaev nikolaev@pnpi.spb.ru Computer Systems Department phone: 007-812-71-463-56 at St. Petersburg's Nuclear fax: 007-812-71-462-56 Physics Institute From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 09:27:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24491; Thu, 28 Mar 96 09:27:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29163; Thu, 28 Mar 96 09:04:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29155; Thu, 28 Mar 96 09:04:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2L3I-00038FC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 09:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: omok@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Otto Mok) Subject: Standard man pages? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 22:43:34 GMT I was wondering if there exist any standard man pages exist for pine for Unix... Thanks in advance. Otto out! -- =============================================================================== Otto Mok (omok@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca) 3A Computer Science with Elec. Eng. Elec. and Combinatorics & Optimization University of Waterloo From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 09:32:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24788; Thu, 28 Mar 96 09:32:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29648; Thu, 28 Mar 96 09:21:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29642; Thu, 28 Mar 96 09:21:15 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16221; Thu, 28 Mar 96 09:21:14 -0800 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 09:21:13 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert Reply-To: Steve Hubert To: Pine Info mailing list Subject: Re: New feature: Fcc determination using Fcc field in address book? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just want to try to prevent some possible confusion about this. It shouldn't matter which fcc-name-rule you select in the Setup/Config screen. In all cases, an explicit fcc defined in your address book should override whatever the fcc-name-rule comes up with. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Thu, 28 Mar 1996, Kees de Bruin wrote: > > That's how it's supposed to work. The fcc from the address book should > > always override any fcc-rule that you may have set. If it's not working, > > there may be a bug we need to fix. If you can tell us exactly what > > keystrokes you go through to get this to happen, that would help. > > I have found the problem: it was me ;-) I now set the configuration to use > the default Fcc. Now I get the Fcc from the address book (if available) > and otherwise the default Fcc. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 10:01:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26068; Thu, 28 Mar 96 10:01:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16930; Thu, 28 Mar 96 09:52:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16918; Thu, 28 Mar 96 09:52:50 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 28 Mar 1996 17:50:22 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id RAA06667; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 17:51:41 GMT Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 17:51:40 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Joe Brennan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Can Mail be used to affect the reader's program's character interpretation? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine 3.92 defaults to suppressing this for "certain control characters", under the control of a new configuration variable. Here's the extract from the on-line help: FEATURE: pass-control-characters-as-is This feature controls how certain characters contained in messages are displayed. If set, all characters in a message will be sent to the screen. Normally, control characters are automatically suppressed in order to avoid inadvertently changing terminal setup parameters. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 28 Mar 1996, Joe Brennan wrote: > > I'm surprised that Pine makes a special case of passing the escape > through (see ttyout.c, stanza on if(ch == '\033'), in 3.91). > > At Columbia we found we had to modify Pine and a few others to display > character "?" for escape, in response to repeated user problems with > terminals locking up or being set to weird displays. In Pine, if the > escape is in the From or Subject lines, user cannot even see the index > of messages because of the screen disruption. > > Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems > Columbia University in the City of New York > brennan@columbia.edu > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 10:04:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26217; Thu, 28 Mar 96 10:04:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00671; Thu, 28 Mar 96 09:56:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pine.nasc.mass.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00665; Thu, 28 Mar 96 09:56:07 -0800 Received: by nasc.mass.edu (8.6.10/SMI-4.1) id RAA03601; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 17:57:20 GMT Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 12:57:20 -0500 (EST) From: Travis Cephus To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe ***************************************************************** *Travis Cephus 413-662-5433 (phone) * *Office of Student Life 413-662-5170 (fax) * *North Adams State College TCEPHUS@NASC.MASS.EDU * *North Adams, MA 01246 * ***************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 10:35:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27184; Thu, 28 Mar 96 10:35:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17940; Thu, 28 Mar 96 10:29:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17934; Thu, 28 Mar 96 10:29:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2MRR-00038FC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 10:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dan Szkola Subject: USE_QUOTAS Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 11:08:43 -0600 Message-Id: <315AC79B.1B38@tanis.cso.niu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What does the compile-time option USE_QUOTAS do? It states that if it is enabled, quotas will be checked on startup. We have a quota set for incoming mail, so do I need this? Does pine do some kind of notification of its own if you enable this? -- ------------ Dan Szkola Systems Programmer Northern Illinois University Oh what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say 'Nee' at will to old ladies --Roger the Shrubber From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 10:47:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27706; Thu, 28 Mar 96 10:47:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01485; Thu, 28 Mar 96 10:26:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hoss.vgi.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01471; Thu, 28 Mar 96 10:25:45 -0800 Received: from norm.vgi.com ([1.0.2.101]) by vgi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08853; Thu, 28 Mar 96 12:47:48 EST Received: from hawkeye by norm.vgi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15765; Thu, 28 Mar 96 12:47:44 EST X-Received: from hawkeye by norm.vgi.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15752; Thu, 28 Mar 96 12:46:34 EST Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 12:47:50 -0500 (EST) From: Alex Lewin X-Sender: lewin@hawkeye Reply-To: Alex Lewin To: Alex Lewin Cc: Jim Champeaux Subject: Bug (ID 7J7DP): pine doesn't like mailbox files beginning with blank line Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="2000007175-33463914-828035270=:2499" Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 12:48:56 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Alex Lewin Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --2000007175-33463914-828035270=:2499 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If I take an otherwise-kosher mailbox file with several messages in it, prepend a blank line, and run pine on it, pine will not recognize that there's more than one message--instead, it shows one message, whose name is the same as the name of the mailbox file, and whose contents are the contents of the entire file. (Is this pine's way of indicating that the mailbox file is corrupt?) mailx doesn't have a problem with files beginning with blank lines. Thanks Alex --2000007175-33463914-828035270=:2499 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; name="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data Pine built Tue Mar 19 19:07:34 EST 1996 on host: hawkeye ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = lewin, full = Alex Lewin home = /ah/lewin home_dir= /ah/lewin hostname= hawkeye localdom= hawkeye userdom= vgi.com maildom= vgi.com cur_cntxt= {vgi-mailhost}mail/[] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= {norm}INBOX msgmap: tot=138, cur=137, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival inbox is mail_stream term type=xterm, ttyname=/dev/pty/ttyq6, size=40x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Alex Lewin user-id : lewin user-domain : vgi.com smtp-server : vgi-mailhost inbox-path : {vgi-mailhost}INBOX folder-collections : {vgi-mailhost}mail/[] : {vgi-mailhost}/local/mail/archive/[] default-fcc : /ah/lewin/mail/Out default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : /ah/lewin/mail/postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : /ah/lewin/.pine-addressbook feature-list : old-growth : signature-at-bottom : delete-skips-deleted : expanded-view-of-folders : enable-mail-check-cue : save-will-quote-leading-froms : save-will-advance : show-selected-in-boldface : include-attachments-in-reply : auto-zoom-after-select : compose-cut-from-cursor : enable-dot-folders : enable-flag-screen-implicitly : print-formfeed-between-messages initial-keystroke-li : i customized-hdrs : Reply-To: lewin@vgi.com : Return-Receipt-To: : X-Anon-To: : Precedence: : References: saved-msg-name-rule : by-sender fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : Arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last editor : emacs-for-mail -nw composer-wrap-column : 74 reply-indent-string : > image-viewer : xv use-only-domain-name : no printer : a2ps -t4 -nn -p | lpr personal-print-comma : with banner [] banner printed for lewin; while read li; do echo done | a2ps -t4 -nn -p | lp' personal-print-categ : 2 standard-printer : a2ps -t4 -nn -p | lpr last-time-prune-ques : 112.10 last-version-used : 3.92 bugs-fullname : Alex Lewin bugs-address : lewin@vgi.com suggest-fullname : Pine Developers suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu local-fullname : Local Support local-address : postmaster kblock-passwd-count : 1 viewer-overlap : 2 status-message-delay : 0 mail-check-interval : 150 elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/ah/lewin/.pinerc) ======= personal-name : Alex Lewin inbox-path : {vgi-mailhost}INBOX folder-collections : {vgi-mailhost}mail/[] : {vgi-mailhost}/local/mail/archive/[] default-fcc : ~/mail/Out postponed-folder : ~/mail/postponed-msgs address-book : ~/.pine-addressbook feature-list : enable-mail-check-cue : save-will-quote-leading-froms : save-will-advance : show-selected-in-boldface : include-attachments-in-reply : auto-zoom-after-select : compose-cut-from-cursor : enable-dot-folders : enable-flag-screen-implicitly : print-formfeed-between-messages initial-keystroke-li : i customized-hdrs : Reply-To: lewin@vgi.com : Return-Receipt-To: : X-Anon-To: : Precedence: : References: saved-msg-name-rule : by-sender sort-key : Arrival editor : emacs-for-mail -nw image-viewer : xv printer : a2ps -t4 -nn -p | lpr personal-print-comma : with banner [] banner printed for lewin; while read li; do echo $li; done | a2ps -t4 -nn -p | lp' personal-print-categ : 2 last-time-prune-ques : 112.10 last-version-used : 3.92 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= user-domain : vgi.com smtp-server : vgi-mailhost inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : My-Mail mail/[] : Group-Archives /net/norm/local/mail/archive/[] default-fcc : sent-mail default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .pine-addressbook feature-list : old-growth : signature-at-bottom : delete-skips-deleted : expanded-view-of-folders initial-keystroke-li : i customized-hdrs : Priority : Return-Receipt-To : Reply-To saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last editor : /usr/local/gnu/bin/emacs -nw composer-wrap-column : 74 reply-indent-string : > image-viewer : xv use-only-domain-name : no printer : a2ps -t4 -nn -p | lpr standard-printer : a2ps -t4 -nn -p | lpr bugs-fullname : Alex Lewin bugs-address : lewin@vgi.com suggest-fullname : Pine Developers suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu local-fullname : Local Support local-address : postmaster kblock-passwd-count : 1 viewer-overlap : 2 status-message-delay : 0 mail-check-interval : 150 elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-allow-talk no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread auto-zoom-after-select no-auto-unzoom-after-apply compose-cut-from-cursor no-compose-maps-delete-key-to-ctrl-d no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-send-offers-first-filter no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-keymenu no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-disable-signature-edit-cmd no-enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation no-enable-8bit-nntp-posting enable-aggregate-command-set enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-cruise-mode no-enable-cruise-mode-delete no-enable-dot-files enable-dot-folders enable-flag-cmd enable-flag-screen-implicitly enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-mouse-in-xterm no-enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon enable-suspend enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-enable-verbose-smtp-posting no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-fcc-on-bounce include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-pass-control-characters-as-is no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt no-print-index-enabled print-formfeed-between-messages no-quell-dead-letter-on-cancel no-quell-lock-failure-warnings no-quell-status-message-beeping no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file quit-without-confirm no-reply-always-uses-reply-to save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-cursor show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-single-column-folder-list no-tab-visits-next-new-message-only no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys no-use-sender-not-x-sender no-use-subshell-for-suspend ========== Latest keystrokes ========== RETURN (0x000d) h (0x0068) h (0x0068) e (0x0065) l (0x006c) i (0x0069) b (0x0062) e (0x0065) b (0x0062) RETURN (0x000d) (0x0020) RETURN (0x000d) i (0x0069) i (0x0069) ? (0x003f) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) e (0x0065) m (0x006d) ESC (0x001b) O (0x004f) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) O (0x004f) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) O (0x004f) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) O (0x004f) A (0x0041) o (0x006f) j (0x006a) e (0x0065) o (0x006f) o (0x006f) o (0x006f) o (0x006f) ESC (0x001b) O (0x004f) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) O (0x004f) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) O (0x004f) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) O (0x004f) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) O (0x004f) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) O (0x004f) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) O (0x004f) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) O (0x004f) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) O (0x004f) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) O (0x004f) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) O (0x004f) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) O (0x004f) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) O (0x004f) A (0x0041) b (0x0062) ESC (0x001b) O (0x004f) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) O (0x004f) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) O (0x004f) A (0x0041) RETURN (0x000d) --2000007175-33463914-828035270=:2499-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 11:13:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28963; Thu, 28 Mar 96 11:13:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02469; Thu, 28 Mar 96 10:59:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02463; Thu, 28 Mar 96 10:59:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2Mu8-00038FC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 10:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP!!! Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 14:47:12 +0000 Message-Id: References: <4j06aq$hpi@crl7.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 25 Mar 1996, D. Jones wrote: > > It's becoming a real pain in the butt when I want to email something to my > entire address book and I have to systematically type in every entry. Is > there a way to setup an electronic mailing list. like I type in the name > of the list and the message is sent to everyone that is on the list? > Someone please help!!! > Yes, set up a list. I suggest you go to the addressbook (M A) and then type ? to get addressbook help data. Look for information on lists. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 1223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 11:53:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01163; Thu, 28 Mar 96 11:53:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20164; Thu, 28 Mar 96 11:44:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20158; Thu, 28 Mar 96 11:44:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2NcA-00038WC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 11:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "A.H.Gerstma" Message-Id: Control: cancel <315A9336.34C0@telebyte.nl> Subject: cmsg cancel <315A9336.34C0@telebyte.nl> Date: 28 Mar 1996 13:38:39 GMT Cancelled by jem@xpat.com. 828020319 MMF2 This posting is spam - thousands of these have been posted. This posting is also a chain-letter. Chain-letters via Usenet may illegal. See: http://www.usps.gov/websites/depart/inspect/chainlet.htm Original Subject was: Uudecode me ... if you dare >>>>>>>> cash.txt (1/1) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 12:11:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02052; Thu, 28 Mar 96 12:11:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04341; Thu, 28 Mar 96 12:00:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04329; Thu, 28 Mar 96 11:59:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2Nmw-00038FC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 11:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stupid@crl.com (Eric Penn) Subject: Re: PC-PINE configuration woes Date: 28 Mar 1996 18:08:01 GMT Message-Id: <4jeki1$fi4@nntp.crl.com> References: <3158E0C9.6ED9@crl.com> <4jd6qb$8er@freenet-news.carleton.ca> On 28 Mar 1996 05:07:23 GMT, Morton Lee Cohen wrote: Thanks for the reply, Morton! > Until you receive mail, after PC-PINE is installed, you will not >have a folder. In fact, if you read mail using another mail reader, first >like the Freeport Mail System on Freenets, all incoming mail is read into >your mailbox folder and your INBOX is deleted by that mail reader. So, if >you use PC-PINE after you accessed your mail, thru the FREENET Mail System, >before you use PC-PINE, you will receive, error after warning error, that >the INBOX doesn't exist. > > PC-PINE, when used first, doesn't delete the INBOX Folder. It >remains, but empty, if configured to copy mail, once quitting PC-PINE to >your mailbox folder and deleting the newer mail. > From my understanding, PC-PINE doesn't run on Home Computers, not >attached to a INTERNET Mail Server, at this time. If you are installing >PC-PINE to read your Mail OFFLINE and upload your replies in a >postponed-Messages folder. Obviously I'm missing something simple here. My INBOX exists -prior- to installing PC-PINE. I currently have about 50-60 incoming email messages in my INBOX. This is a local berkeley mailbox format file in a valid folder, created by a POP3 client external to PC-PINE. I also have a duplicate INBOX in the same exact format (with the same exact contentes) on my POP3 mailserver at mail.crl.com. I am attached to a POP3 mailserver. In my pinerc, I have defined a inbox inbox-path=C:\PROGRAM FILES\INTERNET ACCESSORIES\INBOX and incoming-folders={mail.crl.com/pop3}.mailbox PC-PINE tells me that the pre-existant INBOX at the path specifified does not exist (even though it does), and then tells me that my remote specification is invalid (even though it is not). What am I doing wrong? -- Eric Penn STUPID's three rules to life: stupid@crl.com Stick with what you're good at, http://www.crl.com/~stupid/ Learn from your mistakes, and "stoo" When in doubt, act stupid! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 13:56:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06822; Thu, 28 Mar 96 13:56:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23230; Thu, 28 Mar 96 13:45:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23224; Thu, 28 Mar 96 13:45:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2PRi-00038FC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 13:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fjherna@ibm.net (Javier Hernandez) Subject: Re: Tin & signature file Date: 27 Mar 1996 04:43:53 GMT Message-Id: <4jah29$4bkm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> References: <4ifd4g$20u@white.lambton.on.ca> <4iijoj$25k@fu-berlin.de> In article , Rod Upfold writes: >Thank you for the information about my problem with "Tin" and signature file. > >Thanks again... Hi All, Can anyone of you tell me how I can do to put the signature file at the end of the message because when I choose to reply with the content of the other message I got the signature at the beginning of my message and the text of the other message after the signature. thanks, -- --------------oOo-------------------- Javi fjherna@ibm.net fj.chicha@p48.europa3.encomix.com Valencia, SPAIN  From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 15:06:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09785; Thu, 28 Mar 96 15:06:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09182; Thu, 28 Mar 96 14:50:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09175; Thu, 28 Mar 96 14:50:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2QVL-00038FC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 14:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chuck Foster Subject: PCPine for Win95: select option Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 21:22:29 +0000 Message-Id: <315B0315.1AB3@pipex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I've just been trying out PCPine when I suddenly discovered I couldn't select a group of messages in a folder with this version, even though the help says I can. Neither is the 'a' command. I don't think I need to configure it in Setup do I? Also, double clicking on a folder does not always open it; sometimes it opens the most recently opened one instead. However, all in all I am impressed! The mouse coordination certainly pushes it ahead of the unix version in those terms (but then I like clicking mouse buttons :-)) C. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 15:31:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11018; Thu, 28 Mar 96 15:31:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10270; Thu, 28 Mar 96 15:22:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10264; Thu, 28 Mar 96 15:22:17 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01297; Thu, 28 Mar 96 15:22:14 -0800 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 15:22:11 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Jamie Royer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Future Pine enhancement suggestion In-Reply-To: <1996Mar25.171438.7804@venus.gov.bc.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 25 Mar 1996, Jamie Royer wrote: > Would it be possible to allow keys to be remapped? I believe I have > seen responses saying it must be system independent. What if a > supplementary program converted a text file to a binary file? Here > is a suggestion: > >From experience with other applications, we have come to the conclusion that keyboard remapping is far too much of a support problem to be worth the small gain in functionality and convenience. I have not seen any arguments yet to sway my opinion... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 15:53:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11850; Thu, 28 Mar 96 15:53:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26749; Thu, 28 Mar 96 15:45:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26741; Thu, 28 Mar 96 15:45:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2RIl-00038FC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 15:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: snabb@niksula.hut.fi (Janne Snabb) Subject: Re: Content-Type: application/pgp - how to decode? Date: 28 Mar 96 18:12:43 GMT Message-Id: References: <4j0fp3$1lg@spinnaker.rhein.de> <4j59bq$srt@ustsu10.ust.hk> <4j5c1b$srt@ustsu10.ust.hk> Roland Rosenfeld (roland@spinnaker.rhein.de) wrote: : I got some mail with "Content-Type: application/pgp" in the header. : Pine does not want to show this directly but Pine thinks that this is : a MIME attachment. dominic@cs.ust.hk (Dominic Lai) writes: [...] >3. recompile the pine source tree >My point on this hacking is to force application/pgp to be readed >as text/plain, so as to allow pine to proceed running the display >filter. I think hacking pine source code and recompiling it is a little ugly solution and not necessarily applicaple in large sites. I have solved the problem with receiving mail written with Elm PGP interfaces by adding the following three lines at the beginning of my .procmailrc: :0 Hfhw * ^Content-Type:.*application/(x-pgp-message|pgp) | formail -i "Content-Type: text/plain" This changes Content-Type header to indicate just text/plain type message so that pine is able to display it. Of course you have to have procmail (with formail) installed. -- Janne Snabb snabb@niksula.hut.fi From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 16:24:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13079; Thu, 28 Mar 96 16:24:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11873; Thu, 28 Mar 96 16:20:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11867; Thu, 28 Mar 96 16:20:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2Rsc-00038FC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 16:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eigil Krogh Sorenen Subject: [Q] Pine 3.92 and special characters error ? Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 21:30:33 +0100 Message-Id: <315AF6E9.683C@aar-vki.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We are using both PC-Pine and UNIX Pine ver. 3.92. In the PC-Pine we have a problem. When we type in some sharacters (e.g \ or @ or ....) then after these characters pine(pico) shifts to a new line each time we press Space. To stop this behaviour we have to press CTRL-L. This means that each time we type in e.g. \ we also have to type in CTRL-L. The UNIX version of pine/pico doesn't have this error. It isn't a new error. PC-Pine 3.92 also had it. -- -- Eigil Krogh Sorensen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- VKI ! ! Water Quality Institute !Phone: !E-mail: Science Park Aarhus ! +45 86 20 20 00 or ! 10, Gustav Wieds Vej ! +45 86 20 20 11 local 2114 ! eks@aar-vki.dk DK-8000 Aarhus C !Fax: ! DENMARK. ! +45 86 19 75 11 ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 16:36:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13438; Thu, 28 Mar 96 16:36:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28115; Thu, 28 Mar 96 16:29:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from davinci.netaxis.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28103; Thu, 28 Mar 96 16:29:19 -0800 Received: from localhost (omtemp@localhost) by davinci.netaxis.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA12878 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 19:28:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 19:28:52 -0500 (EST) From: omega temp To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Local non-interneted VMS VAX system wants intereact with a I'net server Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My question is... I am on a VAX VMS system using dumb VT terminal using VAX VMS mail. Is there any software package that will allow my Vax to connect to my internet service who offers Pine or ELM or UNIX mail? I need a software package that will allow me to send and recieve my internet mail from my VMS MAILBOX. Thank you for taking the time R Scott Barrett From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 16:38:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13573; Thu, 28 Mar 96 16:38:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12135; Thu, 28 Mar 96 16:31:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-11.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12129; Thu, 28 Mar 96 16:31:34 -0800 Received: from localhost by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 29 Mar 96 08:30:46 +0800 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 08:30:46 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Javier Hernandez Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Tin & signature file In-Reply-To: <4jah29$4bkm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 27 Mar 1996, Javier Hernandez wrote: > In article , > Rod Upfold writes: > >Thank you for the information about my problem with "Tin" and signature file. > > > >Thanks again... > Hi All, > Can anyone of you tell me how I can do to put the signature file at > the end of the message because when I choose to reply with the content > of the other message I got the signature at the beginning of my message > and the text of the other message after the signature. > thanks, Ah, try: [X] signature-at-bottom in the config. Another wise thing to do would be to go to setup/config and read thru all of the features. I've also found the release notes to be of interest. Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 16:41:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13672; Thu, 28 Mar 96 16:41:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28311; Thu, 28 Mar 96 16:35:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-11.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28305; Thu, 28 Mar 96 16:35:38 -0800 Received: from localhost by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 29 Mar 96 08:34:58 +0800 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 08:34:58 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "B.R.PICKUP" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Can Mail be used to affect the reader's program's character interpretation? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, B.R.PICKUP wrote: > I have been sent a mail message that when you scroll down it it changes > the characters on the screen into gibberish ... this is obviously a non > harmful prank, but I was wondering if I could do something similar but > non destructive ... can anyone tell me how it's done? One thing you can try, since April 1st is coming, is to sneak up behind someone's terminal and with a pair of metal scissors cut the power wires to their monitor. It is sure to bring excitement into everyones' lives. :-) Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 18:23:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17753; Thu, 28 Mar 96 18:23:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00680; Thu, 28 Mar 96 18:16:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00674; Thu, 28 Mar 96 18:16:30 -0800 Received: from bart.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15253; Thu, 28 Mar 96 18:16:29 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by bart.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03048; Thu, 28 Mar 96 18:16:28 -0800 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 18:16:28 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Chuck Foster Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PCPine for Win95: select option In-Reply-To: <315B0315.1AB3@pipex.net> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > I've just been trying out PCPine when I suddenly discovered I couldn't > select a group of messages in a folder with this version, even though > the help says I can. Neither is the 'a' command. I don't think I need to > configure it in Setup do I? Yup, you do. Look for "enable-aggregate-cmds" or something similar. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 19:42:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19311; Thu, 28 Mar 96 19:42:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01946; Thu, 28 Mar 96 19:35:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01940; Thu, 28 Mar 96 19:35:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2Utx-00038FC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 19:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jeffb@mcguckin.com (Jeff) Subject: Pine with Wyse 50 emulation Message-Id: <31d7cc$a2a32.6f@news.net1comm.com> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 17:42:50 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Hello there, I'm hoping that someone else has found a solution to using Pine with Wyse 50/50+ emulation. If you have, please send me an email. My problem is getting the arrow keys mapped as arrow keys instead of sending control characters. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jeff From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 20:01:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19642; Thu, 28 Mar 96 20:01:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15512; Thu, 28 Mar 96 19:35:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15506; Thu, 28 Mar 96 19:35:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2Utx-00038TC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 19:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andrew J Pardoe Subject: Re: To: heading Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 09:07:34 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Just noticed: this setting isn't for posting, it's for reading. That is, if you log in on someone else's account and look at the newsgroup index it has your name in it. If you look at it from your account it says "To: comp.mail.pine". Weird, but doable. On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Jeff Volkman wrote: > > On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Jeff Volkman wrote: > > On 22 Mar 1996, David L Miller wrote: > > > On Thu, 21 Mar 1996, Ben Norwood wrote: > > > > > > > How come my copy of Pine 3.92 keeps putting To: comp.mail.pine in the > > > > sender name area of the folder list instead of my 'full name' (Ben > > > > Norwood)? > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 20:15:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19910; Thu, 28 Mar 96 20:15:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02503; Thu, 28 Mar 96 20:10:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02497; Thu, 28 Mar 96 20:10:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2VUA-00038FC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 20:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ben Norwood Subject: Crossposting Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 13:58:34 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it possible for Pine to stop cross-posted newsgroup articles appearing in the lists for all the newsgroups its been cross-posted to? ie. if you've read the article in one newsgroup, you don't see it appearing in all the others. I've been told by someone who doesn't use Pine that most newsreaders should be able to deduce either from the message-id or Xref: line whether its seen an article before. Can Pine do this? If so, how can the feature be enabled? _ http://www.aber.ac.uk/~bdn5 "If thou hast gathered nothing | \ |\ | bdn5@aber.ac.uk in thy youth, how canst thou |-< | \ | UWA Biology Undergrad find anything in thine age?" |_/ en | \| orwood Ecclesiasticus 25:3 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 21:26:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21665; Thu, 28 Mar 96 21:26:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17020; Thu, 28 Mar 96 21:21:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17014; Thu, 28 Mar 96 21:21:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2WZP-00038FC; Thu, 28 Mar 96 21:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= Subject: Re: Can Mail be used to affect the reader's program's character Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 06:04:29 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 28 Mar 1996, Joe Brennan wrote: > I'm surprised that Pine makes a special case of passing the escape > through (see ttyout.c, stanza on if(ch == '\033'), in 3.91). I'm guessing the reason for this is to handle charset switching for ISO-2022-based MIME charsets which make use of an ESC sequence for altering the user's display. This would be one example of a constructive use of special characters to affect the user's display. To the poser of the original question, so you want a constructive assignment to make use of this principle? Get a pencil and paper. Look through the man pages for X, or reference books (O'Reilly), and make note of the sequence of characters which can be used to change the font used by an xterm. My memory tells me that a ^G is used in it, but I have no reference at hand. Read the Pine3.92 notes on display filters. Pay attention to the CHARSET parameter. Write a simple program which outputs to the display, one of several control sequences to change the font used in the Pine xterm, depending on the charset of the message to be displayed. For extra credit, allow the user to specify the mapping from a charset value to a desired font, and determine whether the user is using an xterm Pine or not (won't work if Pine is not in an xterm). There. How's that for something constructive? I'm sure there will be a lot of Pine users who will be very happy to use your manipulation of the characters displayed on the screen. Like me. I'm too laz^H^H^Hbusy to write something like this myself. > At Columbia we found we had to modify Pine and a few others to display > character "?" for escape, in response to repeated user problems with > terminals locking up or being set to weird displays. On 28 Mar 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Pine 3.92 defaults to suppressing this for "certain control characters", > under the control of a new configuration variable. From the limited testing I've done on the limited platforms available to me, it seems that 3.92's idea of ``certain control characters'' also includes most or all of the range of 8th-bit-set ISO control characters; that is, 128 through 159 decimal, =80 through =9F in MIME Q-P (hex). Will these characters perform the same mischief as their corresponding 7-bit control characters (0-31 decimal) when passed to the terminal? As it turns out, these characters are printing characters in some registered MIME character sets, including the PC-based KOI8-R (Russian Cyrillic) and VISCII (Vietnamese). What I have been seeing by default with characters in this range are that they are replaced by the ``?'' character. This may also extend to the PC versions of Pine which use DOS code pages which are notorious for using this range of characters as printing characters. The Pine authors are aware of these problems and some other limitations on use of 8-bit characters, and I confess that I have not thoroughly examined the results of all settings on the display that results, nor whether the user's charset value affects the behavior of Pine in any way. These will not affect the majority of Pine users in the US or in western Europe (PC-Pine a possible exception), but may be of concern to Russian and other users. The question I ponder is whether it's appropriate to treat by default those characters 128-159 as control characters, which is presumably safer for displays, or as printing characters in the default, which would accommodate non-ISO-8859-based MIME character sets without requiring the user to configure anything. Barry Bouwsma Radio Praha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 28 23:39:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23887; Thu, 28 Mar 96 23:39:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18598; Thu, 28 Mar 96 23:32:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhub.hkstar.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18592; Thu, 28 Mar 96 23:32:46 -0800 Received: from venus131.hkstar.com (venus131.hkstar.com [202.82.48.131]) by mailhub.hkstar.com (8.7.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA03844 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 15:32:43 +0800 (HKT) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 15:32:43 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: <199603290732.PAA03844@mailhub.hkstar.com> X-Sender: calvin88@mail.hkstar.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Calvin Subject: Problem! Hello ! I'm Calvin! I don't want to continue to receive your news message. My email address is calvin88@hkstar.com Thank you very much Sincerely, Calvin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 00:56:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25223; Fri, 29 Mar 96 00:56:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06247; Fri, 29 Mar 96 00:53:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sangam.ncst.ernet.in by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06235; Fri, 29 Mar 96 00:52:10 -0800 Received: from iucaa.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by sangam.ncst.ernet.in (8.6.12/8.6.6) with UUCP id OAA07608 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 14:24:33 +0530 Received: from unipune.ernet.in by iucaa (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21340; Fri, 29 Mar 96 11:32:49+050 Received: from physics.unipune.ernet.in by unipune.ernet.in (5.0/SMI-SVR4.1.0) id AA27793; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 11:20:09 +0500 Received: by physics.unipune.ernet.in (5.0/SMI-SVR4.1.0) id AA11058; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 11:28:01 +0500 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 11:28:01 +0500 From: ashish@physics.unipune.ernet.in (Ashish S. Nadkarni (CVD)) Message-Id: <9603291628.AA11058@physics.unipune.ernet.in> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine-debug messages Content-Length: 475 respected, i have installed the solaris executable version of pine 3.91 on our machine.whenever any user uses pine 4 files by the names of pine-debug-* get created and generally eat up space.however this does not happen on linux pine3.91. could you please let me know why this happens and whether it can be fixed ie stop creating those files? ashish nadkarni scanning tunneling microscopy lab dept.of physics university of pune,pune,INDIA. ashish@physics.unipune.ernet.in From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 01:14:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25640; Fri, 29 Mar 96 01:14:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06420; Fri, 29 Mar 96 01:06:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06414; Fri, 29 Mar 96 01:06:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2a6J-00038TC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 01:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: henker@waigel.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Steffan Henke) Subject: Authentication-Warning 3.92 Date: 28 Mar 1996 01:27:04 GMT Message-Id: <4jcpt8$f01@kohl.informatik.uni-bremen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit When sending mail with 3.92 as a normal user, I get the line X-Authentication-Warning: informatik.uni-bremen.de:henker owned process doing -bs in the complete header of the sent mail. I do not understand the reason for adding the line. When sending mail as root, it is not added. Any help ? Regards, Steffan -- ... Our continuing mission: To seek out knowledge of C, to explore strange UNIX commands, and to boldly code where no one has man page 4. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 01:18:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25739; Fri, 29 Mar 96 01:18:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19823; Fri, 29 Mar 96 01:11:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19817; Fri, 29 Mar 96 01:11:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2a9j-00038FC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 01:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bm71569@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca (Jamie Royer) Subject: Re: 3.92 for DG Message-Id: <1996Mar27.164619.7833@venus.gov.bc.ca> Date: 27 Mar 96 16:46:19 PST References: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca (Brian Hampson) writes: > Has anyone tried 3.92 on DG/UX Aviion? Any problems? things to > watch for? We are on ("uname -a"): dgux themis.ag.gov.bc.ca R4.11 generic AViiON mc88110 I got it compiled and posted a message here on the changes that I made to 4 files. The new version of DG/UX has made changes to C libraries making the compile easy. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jamie Royer Tel: (604) 775-2879 Senior Programmer Fax: (604) 775-2880 GAEA Management & Consulting Ltd. E-Mail: jroyer@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca Burnaby, BC, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- My opinions may be wrong, but at least they're my own. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 01:21:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25801; Fri, 29 Mar 96 01:21:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19889; Fri, 29 Mar 96 01:16:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19883; Fri, 29 Mar 96 01:16:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2aHJ-00038TC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 01:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynch.94@osu.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: Re: USERDB & PINE Date: 28 Mar 1996 00:34:58 GMT Message-Id: References: <4j1d72$1gf@news.mty.itesm.mx> ========= Here is my attempt at writing a "FAQ-like" description of how I got the USERDB to work with pine. This is now in the Sendmail FAQ (Maybe this should go in PINE FAQ also?). I encourage you to post a request to comp.mail.sendmail for the USERDB to handle FQDNs. BTW. I'm using sendmail 8.6.12. ------------------------------------------------------------------- * How do I get the user database (userdb) to work with Pine. The basic incompatibility with Pine and the user database option is in how Pine writes From addresses in the header. Most MUAs write the From address as "From: user", while Pine, for reasons given in its documentation, write the From address as "From: user@FQDN" (FQDN=fully qualified domain name). Because of this difference, the user database does not rewrite pine headers. One solution to this problem is to make the following change in /etc/sendmail.cf after you have the user database option installed and working with other MUAs: In the "local info" section, add the following: # Define our userdb file for pine rewrites Kuserdb btree -o /etc/userdb.db After ruleset 0, add the following as ruleset 1: ################################################## ### Ruleset 1, rewrite sender header & envelope ## ################################################## #Thanks to Bjart Kvarme S1 R$- < @ $=w . > $* $: $1 < @ $2 . > $3 ?? $1 username@localhost ? R$+ ?? $+ $: $1 ?? $(userdb $2 : mailname $: @ $) R$+ ?? @ $@ $1 Not found R$+ ?? $+ $>3 $2 Found, rewrite #NOTE ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ # Use Tab Characters Use Tab Characters in these regions # to make three columns (the line with "mailname" only has 2 columns). Now the user database should re-write messages sent with Pine. If this still does not work for you, try adding the following to either the system wide pine.conf, pine.conf.fixed, or your personal .pinerc: user-domain=localhost This has been known to help solve the problem for some people. ** The drawback of setting the user-domain is Pine 3.92 gives you error messages since localhost is not a FQDN...but if you just ignore the warnings, things should work. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Any thanks for the above should be sent to: Bjart Kvarme who was kind enough to post this solution a while back. =========== On 23 Mar 1996 17:42:58 GMT, Ing. Luis Antonio Fasano B. wrote: >Well i have this problem with the userdb database. >I have some declarations as this one >lfasano:mailname Luis_Fasano@campus.mty.itesm.mx >my problem is that whenever i send a mail using the mail command or with elm, the replacement is done, but when i send a mail using pine it is not. >IS there anyway to modificate the rule or database to make these change even if sending through pine??? >Is there any definition in pinerc which may help with this??? >I've read the manuals and havent found anything about it. >Any pointer???? >Thanks in advance >Luis >pd. BTW Im doing the database using the makemap btree command... -- Jerry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 01:26:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25871; Fri, 29 Mar 96 01:26:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06577; Fri, 29 Mar 96 01:16:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06565; Fri, 29 Mar 96 01:16:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2aHJ-00038FC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 01:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynch.94@osu.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: Re: pine 3.92 does not get it Date: 27 Mar 1996 23:26:32 GMT Message-Id: References: <4j06aq$hpi@crl7.crl.com> The following is something I've posted before: ========= Here is my attempt at writing a "FAQ-like" description of how I got the USERDB to work with pine. I sent this to the Sendmail FAQ, but it hasn't been added since I last checked. I'm using an older version of sendmail (8.6.12 I think), so there are no guarantees. I would encourage you to post a "feature request" or the likes to comp.mail.sendmail about this. ------------------------------------------------------------------- * How do I get the user database (userdb) to work with Pine. The basic incompatibility with Pine and the user database option is in how Pine writes From addresses in the header. Most MUAs write the From address as "From: user", while Pine, for reasons given in its documentation, write the From address as "From: user@FQDN" (FQDN=fully qualified domain name). Because of this difference, the user database does not rewrite pine headers. One solution to this problem is to make the following change in /etc/sendmail.cf after you have the user database option installed and working with other MUAs: In the "local info" section, add the following: # Define our userdb file for pine rewrites Kuserdb btree -o /etc/userdb.db After ruleset 0, add the following as ruleset 1: ################################################## ### Ruleset 1, rewrite sender header & envelope ## ################################################## #Thanks to Bjart Kvarme S1 R$- < @ $=w . > $* $: $1 < @ $2 . > $3 ?? $1 username@localhost ? R$+ ?? $+ $: $1 ?? $(userdb $2 : mailname $: @ $) R$+ ?? @ $@ $1 Not found R$+ ?? $+ $>3 $2 Found, rewrite #NOTE ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ # Use Tab Characters Use Tab Characters in these regions # to make three columns (the line with "mailname" only has 2 columns). Now the user database should re-write messages sent with Pine. If this still does not work for you, try adding the following to either the system wide pine.conf, pine.conf.fixed, or your personal .pinerc: user-domain=localhost This has been known to help solve the problem for some people. ** The drawback of this is Pine 3.92 gives you error messages since localhost is not a FQDN...but if you just ignore the warnings, things still work. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Any thanks for the above should be sent to: Bjart Kvarme who was kind enough to post this solution a while back. On 22 Mar 1996 22:39:22 -0800, Christoph Torlinsky wrote: > My pine 3.92 does not get the masquerading that is that in my sendmail.cf > all my outgoing mail has the histname only instead of the domainname > that is supposed to be used from the sendmail.cf...anyhow, if someone > can tell me how to rememdy this so all my outgoing mail looks right > > thanks > > > -chris > -- Jerry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 01:30:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26313; Fri, 29 Mar 96 01:30:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19897; Fri, 29 Mar 96 01:16:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19881; Fri, 29 Mar 96 01:16:30 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id KAA03507; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 10:11:26 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 10:11:25 +0100 (MET) From: Vladimir Solnicky =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=28Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD=29?= Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: "Sergey A. Nikolaev" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DATIA_AV_=C8R=3B_Pod_vod=E1renskou_v=EC=BE=ED?= =?ISO-8859-2?Q?_4=3B_182_08__Praha_8-Libe=F2=3B_Czech_Rep?= =?ISO-8859-2?Q?ublic?= Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Organizace: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_AV_=C8?= =?ISO-8859-2?Q?R_=28=DATIA=29?= X-Chameleon-Return-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 28 Mar 1996, Sergey A. Nikolaev wrote: > Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rec03.pnpi.spb.ru (= 8.7.5/8.6.9) > with ESMTP id PAA02771; Thu, 28 Mar 1996 15:29:52 GMT I think from this it works well (from pine). I think the problem is in a different place as eplaned later in this letter > On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, [ISO-8859-2] Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD wrote: > > > On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, Sergey A. Nikolaev wrote: > > > > > Hi. I set up the enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation option, but pine 3.9= 2 > > > persist on MIME encoding. MTA on our IRIX is sendmail 8.6.9. > > > If I send an e-mail message in russian using mail program it goes f= ine > > > without MIME encoding or 8th bit striping. I tried to start sendmai= l with > > > 8BITMIME option, but this didn't help. > > > > Sendmail 8.6.* does not support 8BITMIME. You need a newer version (I > > think the newest and stable enough is 8.7.5--we are runnig it here fo= r > > some time). In fact, version 8.6.9 have some serious security bugs so > > there are also security reasons to upgrade. Having upgraded you have = to > > set the pine `smtp-server' variable to the machine running this new > > sendmail (`localhost' is enough for sendmail running on the same mach= ine. > > But it is necessary to set up the mailertable using smtp8 mailer for = all > > domains being 8bit clean and using older sendmails (not 8.7.*) and > > important to install new sendmail wherever possible. > > > But sendmail-8.6.9 manual claims to know 8BITMIME and so does the > postscript document from the doc/op directory in sendmail's distributio= n. Maybe it does (I had never has it) but the sendmail program (version 8.6.9) does _not_ say it about itself via ESMTP protocol--thus pine does not know the sendmail _is_ 8BITMIME. > I cann't say that I understand everything about terms 8BITMIME, ESMTP, > "Eight-bit clean", but what I can say for sure is that 8-bit mail messa= ges 8-bit-cleans means the program never strips off the 8th bit of any byte. ESMTP is an extension of the SMTP protocol for mail exchnge and allows some non-standard thinks (strictly said sendaing 8bit text is illegal in SMTP). 8BITMIME means the program is able to handle 8bit MIME Content-Transfer-Encoding: and is able to encode it to some 7bit MIME encoding if the recepient does not have (and claim!) this ability, too. This is my opinion, not the cited RFC! > sent with the "mail" program or sendmail (on command line) go fine > between our two our systems, one of them running sendmail-8.6.9, the ot= her > sendmail-8.6.12. No seven bit stripping or MIME encoding occurs. This depends on configuration of both sendmails so you cannot be sure (sendaing mail) it will always be O.K. > But when I use pine it always do MIME encoding on 8-bit text. > Why wouldn't pine 3.92 just pass on 8bit messages to sendmail? Because the Pine Team likes conforming standards (and sending 8bit data t= o programs not claiming themselves to be 8BITMIME does not conform RFC) and because it is their program and they can do in it what they like :-) > Anyway I have just installed sendmail-8.7.5 on my IRIX 5.3 and set > localhost as a smtp server, but still pine does MIME encoding. What hav= e I > missed? (I suppose enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation option is set) If you send mail to a user on the same computer? If so, I cannot help you (and it should probably be a bug in Pine). If the user is on another computer, then MIME Quoted-Printable encoding may be done by sendmail itself (and Pine sands it 8bit) in cases when the recepient's sendmail is not 8BITMIME (i. e. older then 8.7.*) and smtp8 mailer is _not_ used. Thus check that: 1) All recepients' sendmails are 8BITMIME compliant (8.7.*) and when ther= e computers you cannot change the version 2) Change the sendmail.cf file to allow the mailertable lookup (you probably need sendmail compiled with the -DNEWDB compiling option) and pu= t all domains with such 8bit-clean but not 8BITMIME sendmails it this file (very dangerous solution is put there the whole domain .ru and .su and change it only for subdomains not using 8-bit-cleans sendmails). Details are in the sendmail (i think) cf/cf/README or cf/README manuals. Hope it helps V. S. P. S. You may send me a testing letter containing 8bit data as I have an 8BITMIME sendmail to address (vs@site.cas.cz). Then I will reply you if i= t comes 8bit or QP encoded. | | Bc. Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD (US-ASCII: Vladimir Solnicky) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 6884677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz ftp.utia.cas.cz http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-en.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 01:46:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26555; Fri, 29 Mar 96 01:46:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06877; Fri, 29 Mar 96 01:41:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06871; Fri, 29 Mar 96 01:41:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2aeD-00038FC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 01:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccpsm@mucc.mahidol.ac.th (Prem Sumetpong - CC) Subject: reading news with pine3.92 Date: 23 Mar 1996 06:48:58 GMT Message-Id: <4j06sq$3iu@mars.mahidol.ac.th> after i compiled 3.92 version, i no longer can read news using pine. no config changes at all. I get resource temporarily unavailable. I however, can still read news using tin (news spool is on the news server not the local machine) prem From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 02:27:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27167; Fri, 29 Mar 96 02:27:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20647; Fri, 29 Mar 96 02:21:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20641; Fri, 29 Mar 96 02:21:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2bFL-00038FC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 02:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sk22@chelsea.ios.com (Shirley Koda) Subject: Read only folder. Date: 28 Mar 1996 06:36:50 GMT Message-Id: <4jdc22$oth@news2.ios.com> For some reason, my inbox folder has been set to read-only. I don't know if I did this by accident or if my provider did this. How do I change this so that I can erase all of my unwanted messages. Thanks in advance for any help. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 03:22:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28088; Fri, 29 Mar 96 03:22:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21255; Fri, 29 Mar 96 03:18:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-11.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21249; Fri, 29 Mar 96 03:17:55 -0800 Received: from localhost by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 29 Mar 96 19:17:13 +0800 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 19:17:12 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "Ashish S. Nadkarni (CVD)" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine-debug messages In-Reply-To: <9603291628.AA11058@physics.unipune.ernet.in> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 29 Mar 1996, Ashish S. Nadkarni (CVD) wrote: > i have installed the solaris executable version of pine 3.91 on our machine.whenever any user uses pine 4 files by the names of pine-debug-* get created and generally eat up space.however this does not happen on linux pine3.91. > could you please let me know why this happens and whether it can be fixed ie stop creating those files? You can start pine with -d0 and no debug files will be produced. The alternative is to recompile with the appropriate changes. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 03:31:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28348; Fri, 29 Mar 96 03:31:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07968; Fri, 29 Mar 96 03:21:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07962; Fri, 29 Mar 96 03:21:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2cAj-00038FC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 03:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bob Burge Subject: lcc: ? Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 14:29:26 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What does it stand for? Bob From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 03:56:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28806; Fri, 29 Mar 96 03:56:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21616; Fri, 29 Mar 96 03:51:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21610; Fri, 29 Mar 96 03:51:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2cgl-00038FC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 03:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: weave@apache.dtcc.edu (Ken Weaverling) Subject: cmsg cancel <4jep2v$i24@apache.dtcc.edu> Control: cancel <4jep2v$i24@apache.dtcc.edu> Date: 28 Mar 1996 15:08:14 -0500 Message-Id: <4jerje$jgk@apache.dtcc.edu> <4jep2v$i24@apache.dtcc.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- Ken Weaverling, Delaware Tech weave@hopi.dtcc.edu (WHOIS: KJW) finger me for PGP and home page info. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 04:35:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00311; Fri, 29 Mar 96 04:35:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08856; Fri, 29 Mar 96 04:26:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08850; Fri, 29 Mar 96 04:26:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2dDW-00038FC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 04:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeff Volkman Subject: Re: To: heading Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 14:59:12 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 22 Mar 1996, David L Miller wrote: > On Thu, 21 Mar 1996, Ben Norwood wrote: > > > How come my copy of Pine 3.92 keeps putting To: comp.mail.pine in the > > sender name area of the folder list instead of my 'full name' (Ben > > Norwood)? > > > > Since the message is From: you, Pine assumes (by default) that the > more useful information is who you sent it To:. You can change this > in Pine 3.92 by setting the index-format in the Setup/Config screen. > Read the Help text carefully before changing this though!!! I've been having the same problem. I've looked at the Help text you mention, but didn't understand how this applied to the problem. Could you tell us more (like what do we do to get the defaults back the way they were before 3.92)? Thanks Jeff Volkman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 06:50:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02935; Fri, 29 Mar 96 06:50:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23782; Fri, 29 Mar 96 06:41:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23760; Fri, 29 Mar 96 06:40:10 -0800 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (bduggan@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA11037; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 11:08:20 -0330 Received: (bduggan@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA26878; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 11:08:19 -0330 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 11:08:19 -0330 (NST) From: Brian Duggan X-Sender: bduggan@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Blind Carbon Copy In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ed, Thanks for the info. Brian From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 08:48:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06826; Fri, 29 Mar 96 08:48:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12749; Fri, 29 Mar 96 08:37:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12743; Fri, 29 Mar 96 08:37:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2h98-00038VC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 08:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chuck Foster Subject: Re: PCPine for Win95: select option Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 21:27:23 +0000 Message-Id: <315B043B.7179@pipex.net> References: <315B0315.1AB3@pipex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Urgh! Forget I spoke!!! A few seconds later I remember which option it is! (serves me right for starting from scratch again instead of using my unix pierc for reference!!!) Sorry for the disturbance! C. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 10:43:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13558; Fri, 29 Mar 96 10:43:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28748; Fri, 29 Mar 96 10:28:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.NL.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28738; Fri, 29 Mar 96 10:28:13 -0800 Received: from ciint by ns.NL.net via EUnet id AA10245 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Fri, 29 Mar 1996 18:40:15 +0100 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa06298; 29 Mar 96 18:18 WET Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 18:17:25 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering Reply-To: Richard Gering To: Jeff Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine with Wyse 50 emulation In-Reply-To: <31d7cc$a2a32.6f@news.net1comm.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 29 Mar 1996, Jeff wrote: > Hello there, > > I'm hoping that someone else has found a solution to using Pine with Wyse > 50/50+ emulation. If you have, please send me an email. My problem is getting > the arrow keys mapped as arrow keys instead of sending control characters. > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. Getting your arrow keys to work is relatively easy if you follow these steps: 1. Make sure you have the new Pine 3.92. This is the first release of Pine that will allow you to use the termcap/terminfo files; a necessity to get your Wyse 50 to work. 2. Edit the files pine/makefile. and pico/makefile. to include "-DTERMCAP_WINS" at the line defining STDCFLAGS. On my SCO system, this now looks like: STDCFLAGS= -DSCO -DSYSTYPE=\"SCO\" -DMOUSE -DTERMCAP_WINS 3. Recompile Pine & Pico. Because the makefiles do not check if they were modified themselves, you will need to force a rebuild. The easiest way to do this is to run "build clean". Alternatively, you can manually remove the following files: pico/osdep.o pico/tcap.o or pico/tinfo.o pine/ttyout.o 4. Execute "build " 5. Enjoy your newly built Pine! It needs to be said that you can no longer use certain ctrl-key combinations to activate function from pine and/or pico. For example, Ctrl-K (Cut Text) will now do a cursor-up, since that is the code being sent by the cursor-up key from a Wyse 50. To cut text, you should press ESC-ESC-k instead. Just keep in mind that any control key combination can be replaced by pressing escape twice, followed by the key you would normally press with the control key. Feel free to contact me if you require further assistance. Good luck! Best regards, - Richard Gering. P.S. I've actually composed this message using a Wyse 50 emulation. Due to the limitations described above, it's not quite like working on the ANSI based terminals I normally use, but it does work. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | Computer programmers don't byte, | | Computer Industries International | they just nibble a bit. (unknown) | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 11:28:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15700; Fri, 29 Mar 96 11:28:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00585; Fri, 29 Mar 96 11:22:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00579; Fri, 29 Mar 96 11:22:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2jjp-00038TC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 11:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eigil Krogh Sorenen Subject: Re: Finding 3.92 in UK Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 04:27:38 +0100 Message-Id: <315B58AA.51E8@aar-vki.dk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What version of pine 3.92 do you need ? UNIX, Windows3.x or Win95 I can put them on our anonymous ftp if you want. It is slam.aar.vki.dk (130.225.8.239) login as ftp or anonymous. You can try if you can reach the ftp site and let me know which of the pine versions you want Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > I'm sorry to ask this. I have looked around, but with no success. > > Is pine 3.92 avialable in or near the UK. My ftp attempts to Washington > (Seattle?, Spokane?) have all ended up poorly. > > - -jeff > > - -- > Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 > Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 > J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ > /** Note: I will be away from my mail from March 29 thought April 9 **/ > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.3i > Charset: noconv > Comment: Processed by mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface. > > iQCVAgUBMVl2qRu6nIqxqP+5AQG8MgP+Kd/gLcVPQVAOq87rDq4G/mdDVrRMeLj1 > xusuQ5pCYk74jeXCkeOEsCvrDAQ3a+fULKRTKsRoRpzB14OyMWAtRd+P8WdRl2Th > HZdWYZVyTLDvkvliEpEhXO46FFAhsGTxAU+XokOA+7IJ68VqKJ76dOXuzigImdnJ > tzMQtroS8m8= > =xO2b > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- -- Eigil Krogh Sorensen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- VKI ! ! Water Quality Institute !Phone: !E-mail: Science Park Aarhus ! +45 86 20 20 00 or ! 10, Gustav Wieds Vej ! +45 86 20 20 11 local 2114 ! eks@aar-vki.dk DK-8000 Aarhus C !Fax: ! DENMARK. ! +45 86 19 75 11 ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 12:15:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18180; Fri, 29 Mar 96 12:15:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18408; Fri, 29 Mar 96 12:07:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18402; Fri, 29 Mar 96 12:07:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2kPW-00038FC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 12:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: surfboy@mail.cycor.ca (me) Date: 29 Mar 1996 15:56:10 GMT Message-Id: Subject: cmsg cancel <4jgdjn$f39@storm.cycor.ca> Control: cancel <4jgdjn$f39@storm.cycor.ca> 011-592-FOR-SEX spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Original Subject: **Instantly bill OVER 90 COUNTRIES with VIAWEB.** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 12:39:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19427; Fri, 29 Mar 96 12:39:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02593; Fri, 29 Mar 96 12:32:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02587; Fri, 29 Mar 96 12:32:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2kom-00038FC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 12:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: weyers@sugra.desy.de (Peter J. Weyers) Subject: Re: PGP interface for Pine 3.92? Date: 29 Mar 1996 18:30:12 GMT Message-Id: <4jha7k$j46@dscomsa.desy.de> References: <4j7sb4$4sd@dialin115.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Paul Seelig (pseelig@dialin115.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE) wrote: : too! So you have to include the following entries with desired parameters: : /usr/local/bin/pgp -fast _RECIPIENTS_ : /usr/local/bin/pgpencrypt -feast _RECIPIENTS_ : This way there is no need for quoted strings! But you depend on your sysop. Well, you could make ~/bin/pgpencrypt a link, but both are dirty solutions to my feeling. Peter From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 13:56:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22997; Fri, 29 Mar 96 13:56:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21184; Fri, 29 Mar 96 13:43:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21178; Fri, 29 Mar 96 13:43:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2lsZ-00038FC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 13:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bg364@freenet.uchsc.edu (Gretchin Lair) Subject: saving lost postponed messages Date: 29 Mar 1996 20:04:00 GMT Message-Id: <4jhfng$gk5@tali.UCHSC.edu> i'm running pine 3.91 on a unix osf/1 system. i was writing on a previously postponed message when my computer seriously froze and i had no choice but to turn it off. i was hoping that even if pine hadn't saved the new stuff i had been writing that seesion, that since it was a previously postponed message, that it would still be postponed, from the point it had been postponed before. (boy, does that sound complicated ;) ) however, it's completely disappeared! i am in despair. is there a unix file somewhere that pine saves dead stuff in that i can retrieve? even better (and i know this may not fit in this discussion) the shell i was running when it crashed still shows up when i use "ps" (as does pine)-- is there _any_ way i can get back into that inactive shell, save the message & get back out? or is there a way to use "kill" so that, during cleanup, it saves the postponed message? pleasepleaseplease help me! it was a big message. thanks much in advance. gl. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 13:57:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23022; Fri, 29 Mar 96 13:57:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04678; Fri, 29 Mar 96 13:48:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha.loyno.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04672; Fri, 29 Mar 96 13:48:47 -0800 Received: by alpha.loyno.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/22Jul94-0234PM) id AA11830; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 09:52:38 -0600 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 09:52:37 -0600 (CST) From: Mary Aplin To: pine Subject: printer skips a page under OSF Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello Everyone -- I'm running Pine on an DEC Alpha 3300 under OSF v2.0. My system printer is a DEC LG06 Line Printer, which is attached to a DECServer 250. This printer is also used via the DECServer by a MicroVAX 3100. Whenever Pine users print messages that are longer than one page, the printer almost always skips a blank page between page one and page three of the message. Pine is the only application in which this occurs. If I print from the unix prompt, or from any other appllication on my system, everything prints fine. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Mary Aplin Loyola University New Orleans From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 14:43:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25358; Fri, 29 Mar 96 14:43:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06017; Fri, 29 Mar 96 14:38:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06011; Fri, 29 Mar 96 14:38:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2mm9-00038FC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 14:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: colliejd@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu (John Collier) Subject: Re: This Mailing List Makes Sense! Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 15:15:18 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4jbscc$lqd@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA> In article <4jbscc$lqd@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA>, nobody@somewhere.com wrote: > PLEASE READ THIS ENTIRE MESSAGE: > > FACT: Bad things go away. > PROOF: 8 track tapes, Acne > > FACT: Good things stay with us. > PROOF: Computers, Cars, Elvis > PLEASE READ THIS ENTIRE MESSAGE: FACT: Bad things stay with us. PROOF: Chain letters, pyramid schemes, the people who promote them. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 16:55:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01176; Fri, 29 Mar 96 16:55:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25945; Fri, 29 Mar 96 16:48:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25939; Fri, 29 Mar 96 16:48:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2olc-00038FC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 16:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "C. Ainslie" Subject: Pasting Apostrophes Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 06:01:42 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am experimenting with copying and pasting from my word processor (MS Word 7.0 for Windows 95) to e-mail. It is working okay except for one small problem. Apostrophes don't copy and paste. All other characters, shifted and unshifted work but not '. (" works.) I tried copying and pasting from both Wordpad and Notepad and the apostrophes copy and paste fine there. So, the problem is a peculiarity between Word 7.0 and Pine. If anyone has a suggestion, please let me know. Thanks, Chuck Ainslie From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 17:07:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02278; Fri, 29 Mar 96 17:07:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09878; Fri, 29 Mar 96 17:03:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09871; Fri, 29 Mar 96 17:03:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2p2f-00038TC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 17:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Select (?) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 08:26:42 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 22 Mar 1996, William G. S. Brown wrote: > I'd like to select a group of messages for a common action (e.g. Save, Delete > etc) then, once selected, apply the common action. My help screen seems to > imply that the ";" can be used for Select and A for action. This can't be > right because Pine tells me that ";" is not allowed on the screen that > shows the folder contents. Have you turned on enable-aggregate-command-set in your Configuration? If you haven't, ';' probably won't work. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 17:39:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03077; Fri, 29 Mar 96 17:39:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10604; Fri, 29 Mar 96 17:33:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10598; Fri, 29 Mar 96 17:33:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2pTV-00038TC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 17:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eigil Krogh Sorenen Subject: [Q] Pine as default mailer in Win95 ? Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 21:39:34 +0100 Message-Id: <315AF906.188A@aar-vki.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is it possible to configure Windows95 so that Pine becomes the Default e-mailer ? When I e.g. am using the Windows95 Internet Explorer and want to send an e-mail to an address on a web page then the MS Exchange is automatically started. I dn't want to use that, because I'm using imap and have all my saved e-mail folders on one e-mail server and use this foldercollection from different computers. The MS-exchange-email can't save e-mails to these folders or read them or share adressbooks. I take it that it isn't at all possible to get MS-exchange to use imap ? -- -- Eigil Krogh Sorensen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- VKI ! ! Water Quality Institute !Phone: !E-mail: Science Park Aarhus ! +45 86 20 20 00 or ! 10, Gustav Wieds Vej ! +45 86 20 20 11 local 2114 ! eks@aar-vki.dk DK-8000 Aarhus C !Fax: ! DENMARK. ! +45 86 19 75 11 ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 17:41:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03116; Fri, 29 Mar 96 17:41:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27158; Fri, 29 Mar 96 17:33:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27152; Fri, 29 Mar 96 17:33:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2pTB-00038FC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 17:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bryon@jove.acs.unt.edu (Bryon Sutherland) Subject: Please help me turn off this "feature" Date: 28 Mar 1996 23:13:59 GMT Message-Id: <4jf6fn$js6@hermes.acs.unt.edu> There is one feature of Pine that I absolutely hate, hopefully someone will know how to turn it off. When I receive a message that is a response from something I posted to usenet, occasionally Pine wants to send my reply to that message to usenet, not to the person who sent the mail to me. I then have to cancel my letter and start over. I *never* want to post a response in e-mail to usenet. -- http://www.master.net/bryon/ It's a brave new web From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 17:43:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03195; Fri, 29 Mar 96 17:43:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27166; Fri, 29 Mar 96 17:33:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27160; Fri, 29 Mar 96 17:33:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2pTW-00038UC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 17:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Delgado Subject: Re: Pine with Wyse 50 emulation Date: 28 Mar 1996 14:23:02 -0700 Message-Id: References: <31d7cc$a2a32.6f@news.net1comm.com> In-Reply-To: <31d7cc$a2a32.6f@news.net1comm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 29 Mar 1996, Jeff wrote: > Hello there, > > I'm hoping that someone else has found a solution to using Pine with Wyse > 50/50+ emulation. If you have, please send me an email. My problem is getting > the arrow keys mapped as arrow keys instead of sending control characters. > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. Totally dependent on your Wyse 50 emulation software. Your solutions can vary. You need to elaborate more about your environment to offer any viable solutions. -- Dave From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 18:10:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04009; Fri, 29 Mar 96 18:10:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27697; Fri, 29 Mar 96 18:03:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kuhub.cc.ukans.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27691; Fri, 29 Mar 96 18:03:51 -0800 Received: from KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU by KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU (PMDF V5.0-5 #13311) id <01I2X8TDF0B48XBCVK@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 20:03:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 20:03:49 -0600 (CST) From: tleckron@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU Subject: info on internet To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I was wondering if I could get some info on how to use unix. the only command I know is pine. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 18:27:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04403; Fri, 29 Mar 96 18:27:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11288; Fri, 29 Mar 96 18:18:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11282; Fri, 29 Mar 96 18:18:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2qC7-00038FC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 18:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: unger@raindrop.seaslug.org (Thomas Unger) Subject: Re: PCPine for Win95: select option Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 17:42:27 GMT Message-Id: References: <315B0315.1AB3@pipex.net> In article <315B0315.1AB3@pipex.net>, Chuck Foster wrote: >Hi, >Also, double clicking on a folder does not always open it; sometimes it >opens the most recently opened one instead. Yea, this is a bug. If you miss the folder name by a little and double click on an in-active area then wpine will open the _currently_ selected folder, probably the most recently opened one. Tom Unger From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 20:06:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06485; Fri, 29 Mar 96 20:06:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29141; Fri, 29 Mar 96 19:58:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29135; Fri, 29 Mar 96 19:58:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2rnP-00038FC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 19:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michel Jouvin Subject: Another improvement suggestion for a future release Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:01:24 +0100 Message-Id: <315BFB44.41C6@lal.in2p3.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The new feature 'print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt' is very usefull. It would be very nice to have the same option for spelling. Here, we use ispell but frequently need to swith from 1 language to another. Going through the Setup menu is not very easy for normal users... It would be much easier with a feature similar to custom print promt. Michel -- ************************************************************** * Michel Jouvin Email : jouvin@lal.in2p3.fr * * LAL / CNRS * * Bat. 200 Tel : +33 1 64468932 * * 91405 Orsay Cedex Fax : +33 1 69079404 * * FRANCE * ************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 22:16:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08604; Fri, 29 Mar 96 22:16:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14214; Fri, 29 Mar 96 22:08:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14208; Fri, 29 Mar 96 22:08:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2tn1-00038FC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 22:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aezekiel@unm.edu (Aaron Ezekiel, CIRT - Univ. of NewMexico) Subject: Re: Problem with PC Pine 3.92 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 21:40:00 GMT Message-Id: <4jhlhj$kq2@lynx.unm.edu> References: <4j7qu6$2mci@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller) wrote: ...skipped... >Host cvmbs2.vetmed.colostate.edu does not appear to be running an IMAP >server... >On 26 Mar 1996, Thom Hadley wrote: >> Can anyone help me. I am trying to run PC PINE and my IMAP server is >> returning "Can't connect to joshua 143 (Refused)" >> >Yup, that's the error message you get when the server doesn't have >IMAP configured. You will need to convince your system administrator >to configure IMAP to run PC-Pine... A related problem we had until someone had an extra cup of coffee one morning was that, even after we had a big PC-Pine installation, the Unix systems folk still expected everyone to be running Pine on Unix, where an rsh was done to make the connection to our mail server, rather than listening on port 143. The result was that, even though the daemon to listen on port 143 was turned ojn, it had been done manually and didn't amke it into the standard places to automatically initiate on re-boot. So each time the mail server was downed, the port 143 listener wasn't there when it came back up. A good stiff cup of coffee and repeatedly fixing the same problem enough times fixed this system problem. It's really a matter of the vantage point of the sys admins. ___________ Aaron Ezekiel, Senior Analyst CIRT - Information Resource Center University of New Mexico 2701 Campus Blvd., #138 Albuquerque, NM 87131 ph: 505-277-8052 email: aezekiel@unm.edu fax: 505-277-8101 WWW URL: http://www.unm.edu/~aezekiel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 23:47:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09843; Fri, 29 Mar 96 23:47:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15185; Fri, 29 Mar 96 23:44:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15179; Fri, 29 Mar 96 23:44:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2vFu-00038TC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 23:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bm11455@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca (Jason Baker) Subject: Re: Content-Type: application/pgp - how to decode? Message-Id: <1996Mar28.171844.7844@venus.gov.bc.ca> Date: 28 Mar 96 17:18:44 PST References: snabb@niksula.hut.fi (Janne Snabb) writes: >dominic@cs.ust.hk (Dominic Lai) writes: > >[...] > >>3. recompile the pine source tree > >>My point on this hacking is to force application/pgp to be readed >>as text/plain, so as to allow pine to proceed running the display >>filter. > >I think hacking pine source code and recompiling it is a little >ugly solution and not necessarily applicaple in large sites. [...] >This changes Content-Type header to indicate just text/plain type >message so that pine is able to display it. Of course you have to >have procmail (with formail) installed. The only problem with this approach is that the user gets hit with the attachment menu, and has to hit a few more keystrokes to get it to display. I figure that's no big deal, but others have expressed differing opinions. :) I'd say that if you've got the access, then recompiling the pine source is the optimum way to do it, just remember that you'll increase your workload come next patch/version. >Janne Snabb Jason -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- jbaker@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca | To err is human; to really Systems Administrator, Information Systems | bugger things up requires BC Family Maintenance Enforcement Program | the root password. print unpack("u","92G5S\=\"!A;F]T:&5R(\'!E Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09845; Fri, 29 Mar 96 23:47:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01842; Fri, 29 Mar 96 23:44:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01836; Fri, 29 Mar 96 23:44:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2vFu-00038UC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 23:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: 3.92 bug? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 14:22:24 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- When I pipe a message, the reverse video in the upper left (around PINE 3.92) gets replaced by the text that first occupied that spot. A ^L fixes it. This is on an '040 Motorola NeXTstation. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.b, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMVqgieBu0383Om6dAQGRVAP/as8I4L068JYgO38NfCo2ZnlycAmRfH+0 TdbZvltaii0U7qRBwpkr+gmEemPkLDf5BMCDNpjSt8np+wKYl7STEcvkiBWlq5uI pvb6zkJqudfe2zDI4yoMo5NEXMF0RvIx+wwk3J1iIPGJm6U7BggezCItcFtauitQ ggJHQa967vo= =fDFJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka 49860926614586AF "The strongest reason for the people to retain their 54105BA338FBF0FB right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 23:47:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09865; Fri, 29 Mar 96 23:47:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01850; Fri, 29 Mar 96 23:44:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01844; Fri, 29 Mar 96 23:44:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2vFw-00038WC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 23:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= Subject: Re: enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 03:37:55 +0200 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT In-Reply-To: On 28 Mar 1996, "Sergey A. Nikolaev" wrote: > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-5 (Just curious -- does 8859-5 see much use in .ru/.su ? I was under the impression that KOI8-R was almost the only MIME charset seeing widespread use...) > what I can say for sure is that 8-bit mail messages > sent with the "mail" program or sendmail (on command line) go fine > between our two our systems, one of them running sendmail-8.6.9, the other > sendmail-8.6.12. No seven bit stripping or MIME encoding occurs. What you see here is what is commonly referred to as ``JustSend8'', which is the only thing non-MIME programs can do to pass non-ASCII data, with the result that you pray it arrives intact. Sometimes it doesn't. > Why wouldn't pine 3.92 just pass on 8bit messages to sendmail? > Anyway I have just installed sendmail-8.7.5 on my IRIX 5.3 and set > localhost as a smtp server, but still pine does MIME encoding. What have I > missed? At the risk of distracting myself even more from the daily drudgery of work, I will volunteer to receive your mail to verify that you are sending it 8BITMIME, or to identify the machines which prevent this from happening. Both my mailbox hosts speak 8BITMIME properly, so you can address a sample 8-bit mail message to or . This offer also goes for anyone else who thinks they have problems with Pine and 8-bit mail, but please spare me from being fired for unproductivity by first verifying your Pine is configured to negotiate 8-bit ESMTP, and that you are talking to 8.7 sendmail or equivalent. Even if I can get your mail with all 8 bits intact and cause everyone else here to turn white as I switch the display font to a giant Cyrillic font ;-) , this doesn't mean that all your recipients will. As Vladimír noted, you will probably want to modify your sendmail so that it delivers to all .ru and .su machines with JustSend8 so others don't complain about unreadable MIME, while I suggest you be conservative and follow the 8BITMIME spec when sending to other domains which are more likely to suffer 8th-bit stripping. But this is only a workaround for the real solution which is to encourage as many people as possible to upgrade to an 8.7 sendmail or comparable MTA with 8BITMIME support. Barry Bouwsma Radio Pravda From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 23:48:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09919; Fri, 29 Mar 96 23:48:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15193; Fri, 29 Mar 96 23:44:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15187; Fri, 29 Mar 96 23:44:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2vFv-00038VC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 23:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= Subject: Re: Please help me turn off this "feature" Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 04:04:20 +0200 Message-Id: References: <4jf6fn$js6@hermes.acs.unt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4jf6fn$js6@hermes.acs.unt.edu> On 28 Mar 1996, Bryon Sutherland wrote: > There is one feature of Pine that I absolutely hate, hopefully someone > will know how to turn it off. Upgrade to 3.92... > When I receive a message that is a response from something I posted to > usenet, occasionally Pine wants to send my reply to that message to > usenet, not to the person who sent the mail to me. In 3.92, if a message arrives in your mail such as this one, Pine will see that it's both posted to Usenet and sent to you by mail, so it's entirely appropriate to continue this meaningless debate in public should you choose. However, otherwise, if Pine cannot tell for sure that the mail is also posted to news, it will assume it isn't. It's also a bit more clear when you choose to reply, because you will be asked if you want to Reply to the author (the default if I remember), or only Follow-up to news, or do Both (as a courtesy, for example, if, as is the case in this country, incoming news is nine days delayed from the time it is posted, sheesh, or if the news server manages to lose half the articles it should have). > I then have to cancel > my letter and start over. Not necessarily -- if you aren't able to use 3.92 right away, go to the headers, ^Kill the Newsgroups: header, and put the e-mail address in the To: header. Ugly if you don't have the e-mail address handy, I guess, but still 3.92 is worth the upgrade to eliminate this need. > I *never* want to post a response in e-mail to > usenet. Never? A bit strong. I can think of times you might, such as in response to this message which is both mailed and posted to news, should you reply to the e-mail copy before seeing the news copy... Barry Bouwsma Radio Praha Troublemaker From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Mar 29 23:48:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09933; Fri, 29 Mar 96 23:48:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01834; Fri, 29 Mar 96 23:44:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01828; Fri, 29 Mar 96 23:44:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2vFu-00038FC; Fri, 29 Mar 96 23:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= Subject: Re: .forward question Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 03:14:55 +0200 Message-Id: References: <4is75h$e5b@news.csus.edu> <4je2i9$cfc@fu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4je2i9$cfc@fu-berlin.de> On 28 Mar 1996, Sven Guckes wrote: > >Or perhaps have it filed in a different mailbox after it has been forwarded? > Filing must be done via a filter program. (I think) Not necessarily... Here's a dot-forward file we got: "|/usr/local/bin/filter -o /home/BoZo/.elm/filter-errors" /usr/people/BoZo/archive/received The result is that for this user, ~/archive/received is a massive flat mail file which the Berzerkeley drivers in Pine or IMAPd can read (albeit much more slowly than an alternate format file). The end result is that the filter program decides how to deal with mail, but no matter what happens to that mail as a result, we still have a copy which can be retrieved for later reference. Barry Bouwsma, chief BoZo Radio PrAHA! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 30 00:57:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11031; Sat, 30 Mar 96 00:57:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16076; Sat, 30 Mar 96 00:54:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16070; Sat, 30 Mar 96 00:54:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2wQ6-00038FC; Sat, 30 Mar 96 00:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: trow@access4.digex.net (Sue Trowbridge) Subject: Personal and mailing list mail no longer indicated in 3.92 Date: 29 Mar 1996 11:27:21 -0500 Message-Id: <4jh319$6m3@access4.digex.net> One of my favorite things about pine was the way it put a "+" sign next to my personal messages. I subscribe to four fairly high traffic mailing lists, and it was nice when I was in a hurry to be able to go through my inbox and read only my personal mail. I was dismayed to note that in the new version of pine, this feature is no longer available. If there is a way to get it back, please let me know. Thanks. --Sue Trowbridge +++ trow@access.digex.net +++ www.interbridge.com You need to watch more TV. How else can you be plugged into a cultural zeitgeist defined by unattainable desires and unrealistic expectations? --Joe Mallon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 30 03:05:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13189; Sat, 30 Mar 96 03:05:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03937; Sat, 30 Mar 96 03:02:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailserver3.tiac.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03931; Sat, 30 Mar 96 03:01:58 -0800 Received: from mailserver2.tiac.net (mailserver2.tiac.net [199.0.65.231]) by mailserver3.tiac.net (8.6.12/8.7.4) with ESMTP id GAA08998 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 06:03:11 -0500 Received: from ops.tiac.net (ebaker@ops.tiac.net [206.119.4.207]) by mailserver2.tiac.net (8.6.12/8.7.4) with SMTP id GAA23566 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 06:03:10 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 06:01:19 -0500 (EST) From: Ed Baker To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine mailing list? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi I was just wondering if there was a problem with the mailimg list. I was receiving a number of very helpfull messages everyday, but don't seem to have received any for about 4 days now. Thanks -E ************************************************************* * Ed Baker Operations Adminstrator * * E-mail:ebaker@tiac.net * * The Internet Access Company, Bedford, MA (617) 276-7200 * * mail info@tiac.net for TIAC's pricing and services * ************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 30 03:28:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13639; Sat, 30 Mar 96 03:28:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04183; Sat, 30 Mar 96 03:25:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailserver3.tiac.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04177; Sat, 30 Mar 96 03:25:45 -0800 Received: from mailserver1.tiac.net (mailserver1.tiac.net [199.0.65.232]) by mailserver3.tiac.net (8.6.12/8.7.4) with ESMTP id GAA09845 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 06:26:58 -0500 Received: from ops.tiac.net (ebaker@ops.tiac.net [206.119.4.207]) by mailserver1.tiac.net (8.6.12/8.7.4) with SMTP id GAA21230 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 06:27:18 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 06:25:09 -0500 (EST) From: Ed Baker To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine mailing list? (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ************************************************************* * Ed Baker Operations Adminstrator * * E-mail:ebaker@tiac.net * * The Internet Access Company, Bedford, MA (617) 276-7200 * * mail info@tiac.net for TIAC's pricing and services * ************************************************************* ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 06:01:19 -0500 (EST) From: Ed Baker To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine mailing list? Hi I was just wondering if there was a problem with the mailimg list. I was receiving a number of very helpfull messages everyday, but don't seem to have received any for about 4 days now. Thanks -E ************************************************************* * Ed Baker Operations Adminstrator * * E-mail:ebaker@tiac.net * * The Internet Access Company, Bedford, MA (617) 276-7200 * * mail info@tiac.net for TIAC's pricing and services * ************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 30 04:23:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15184; Sat, 30 Mar 96 04:23:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04893; Sat, 30 Mar 96 04:19:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04887; Sat, 30 Mar 96 04:19:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2zca-00038FC; Sat, 30 Mar 96 04:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: izzy@izzy.com (Michael Israeli) Subject: Re: pine.conf? Date: 29 Mar 1996 18:20:46 GMT Message-Id: <4jh9lu$cfb@wolf.misty.com> References: <4jg0s6$l49@crl10.crl.com> Christoph Torlinsky (ctorlins@crl.com) wrote: : without sounding tooo lame, what does a system wide pine.conf look : like? I want all my users to use the same domain foroutbound mail.. Mine is included below. But basically as far as I know, you can put anything that would usually go in the .pinerc file into the system wide /usr/local/lib/pine.conf file. # /usr/local/lib/pine.conf -- system wide pine configuration # # Values here affect all pine users unless they've overidden the values # in their .pinerc files. A copy of this file with current comments may # be obtained by running "pine -conf". It will be printed to standard output. # # For a variable to be unset its value must be null/blank. This is not the # same as the value of "empty string", which can be used to effectively # "unset" a variable that has a default or previously assigned value. # To set a variable to the empty string its value should be "". # Switch variables are set to either "yes" or "no", and default to "no". # Except for feature-list items, which are additive, values set in the # .pinerc file replace those in pine.conf, and those in pine.conf.fixed # over-ride all others. Features can be over-ridden in .pinerc or # pine.conf.fixed by pre-pending the feature name with "no-". # # (These comments are automatically inserted.) # Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail. user-domain= izzy.com # List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail. smtp-server= # NNTP server for posting news. Also sets news-collections for news reading. nntp-server= news.izzy.com # If "user-domain" not set, strips hostname in FROM address. (Unix only) use-only-domain-name= # The system wide standard printer standard-printer= # Set the default spell checker to ispell speller=ispell - Izzy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 30 04:38:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15385; Sat, 30 Mar 96 04:38:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18428; Sat, 30 Mar 96 04:34:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18422; Sat, 30 Mar 96 04:34:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u2znU-00038FC; Sat, 30 Mar 96 04:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cx163@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Morton Lee Cohen) Subject: Re: PC-PINE configuration woes Date: 29 Mar 1996 06:12:14 GMT Message-Id: <4jfuvu$7v3@freenet-news.carleton.ca> References: <3158E0C9.6ED9@crl.com> <4jd6qb$8er@freenet-news.carleton.ca> <4jeki1$fi4@nntp.crl.com> Eric Penn (stupid@crl.com) writes: > On 28 Mar 1996 05:07:23 GMT, Morton Lee Cohen wrote: > > Thanks for the reply, Morton! > >> Until you receive mail, after PC-PINE is installed, you will not >>have a folder. In fact, if you read mail using another mail reader, first >>like the Freeport Mail System on Freenets, all incoming mail is read into >>your mailbox folder and your INBOX is deleted by that mail reader. So, if >>you use PC-PINE after you accessed your mail, thru the FREENET Mail System, >>before you use PC-PINE, you will receive, error after warning error, that >>the INBOX doesn't exist. >> >> PC-PINE, when used first, doesn't delete the INBOX Folder. It >>remains, but empty, if configured to copy mail, once quitting PC-PINE to >>your mailbox folder and deleting the newer mail. > >> From my understanding, PC-PINE doesn't run on Home Computers, not >>attached to a INTERNET Mail Server, at this time. If you are installing >>PC-PINE to read your Mail OFFLINE and upload your replies in a >>postponed-Messages folder. > > Obviously I'm missing something simple here. > > My INBOX exists -prior- to installing PC-PINE. I currently have about 50-60 > incoming email messages in my INBOX. This is a local berkeley mailbox format > file in a valid folder, created by a POP3 client external to PC-PINE. I also > have a duplicate INBOX in the same exact format (with the same exact > contentes) on my POP3 mailserver at mail.crl.com. > > I am attached to a POP3 mailserver. In my pinerc, I have defined a inbox > > inbox-path=C:\PROGRAM FILES\INTERNET ACCESSORIES\INBOX > > and > > incoming-folders={mail.crl.com/pop3}.mailbox > > PC-PINE tells me that the pre-existant INBOX at the path specifified does not > exist (even though it does), and then tells me that my remote specification is > invalid (even though it is not). > > What am I doing wrong? > > -- > Eric Penn STUPID's three rules to life: > stupid@crl.com Stick with what you're good at, > http://www.crl.com/~stupid/ Learn from your mistakes, and > "stoo" When in doubt, act stupid! > Hi Eric, If you posted the above inbox=path statement exactly as you have it listed in the configuration file, can you tell me, if spaces can exist in the path statement. Under MS-DOS, which I'm using at home, version 5.0, the space is considered to be an illegal character. Would not the PINE program just see the following: inbox-path=C:\PROGRAM ? You wrote: inbox-path=C:\PROGRAM FILES\INTERNET ACCESSORIES\INBOX If Unix allows longer directory names, shouldn't you have an underline character between PROGRAM_FILES and INTERNET_ACCESSORIES instead of a space? example: inbox-path=C:\PROGRAM_FILES\INTERNET_ACCESSORIES\INBOX I am not familiar with Unix as I am with MS-DOS, but would not the same rules apply for illegal characters in the path? -- Morton Lee Cohen --- E-Mail cx163@freenet.carleton.ca Resume' : Creator of "I Dream of Jeannie" and Creator and Developer of "XUXA" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 30 08:12:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18569; Sat, 30 Mar 96 08:12:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20617; Sat, 30 Mar 96 08:09:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20611; Sat, 30 Mar 96 08:09:03 -0800 Received: from bart.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28229; Sat, 30 Mar 96 08:09:02 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by bart.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20579; Sat, 30 Mar 96 08:09:01 -0800 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 08:09:01 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Sue Trowbridge Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Personal and mailing list mail no longer indicated in 3.92 In-Reply-To: <4jh319$6m3@access4.digex.net> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sue, The feature did not go away (i.e. it works fine for me.) If you could send me the "From: " header line from one of your outgoing messages, as it exists in your sent-mail folder, and the "To: " header line from one of the messages that *should* have a "+" but doesn't, I might be able to help. -teg On 29 Mar 1996, Sue Trowbridge wrote: > One of my favorite things about pine was the way it put a "+" sign next to > my personal messages. I subscribe to four fairly high traffic mailing > lists, and it was nice when I was in a hurry to be able to go through my > inbox and read only my personal mail. I was dismayed to note that in the > new version of pine, this feature is no longer available. If there is a > way to get it back, please let me know. Thanks. > > --Sue Trowbridge +++ trow@access.digex.net +++ www.interbridge.com > You need to watch more TV. How else can you be plugged into a cultural > zeitgeist defined by unattainable desires and unrealistic expectations? > --Joe Mallon > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 30 08:30:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18777; Sat, 30 Mar 96 08:30:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07389; Sat, 30 Mar 96 08:26:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from admin.aurora.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07383; Sat, 30 Mar 96 08:26:28 -0800 Received: by admin.aurora.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA14060; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 10:29:50 -0600 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 10:29:50 -0600 (CST) From: Steve Lowe To: Pine Information List Subject: Observation Sending Mail 3.92 Ultrix Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Maybe my eyes are playing tricks. But, I believe the screen refreshes it twice when you send (CTRL-X) a message after composition. On the second refresh, you then get the prompt that the message has been sent. Has anyone observed this problem? -- Steve Lowe Aurora University slowe@admin.aurora.edu 708 844 5290 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 30 08:53:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19171; Sat, 30 Mar 96 08:53:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07700; Sat, 30 Mar 96 08:50:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07694; Sat, 30 Mar 96 08:50:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u33p1-00038FC; Sat, 30 Mar 96 08:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= Subject: Re: saving lost postponed messages Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:54:17 +0200 Message-Id: References: <4jhfng$gk5@tali.UCHSC.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4jhfng$gk5@tali.UCHSC.edu> On 29 Mar 1996, Gretchin Lair wrote: > i'm running pine 3.91 on a unix osf/1 system. i was writing on a > previously postponed message when my computer seriously froze and i had no > choice but to turn it off. The newest Pine, 3.92, has a number of improvements with respect to saving interrupted messages. In your case, this Pine will checkpoint the message you are composing every 200 keystrokes, so if your computer gets seriously hosed, you can usually recover from the #pico... file. Normally a message under composition which somehow gets interrupted is saved to an interrupted message folder, and then next time you restart Pine, it will detect that such a message exists and prompt you whether you want to continue composing the message. This isn't foolproof, though. In spite of the best efforts of the Pine authors, I was in the process of sending a composition when my 3.92 Pine got stuck (for reasons which are now clear to me), and because Pine did not expect to get stuck at this point, there were no checkpointed files and no way for me to recover the message by normal means. What I've learned to do in cases where Pine has frozen on me at points where I know I will not be able to recover my composition, is to kill the Pine session with a signal that will cause it to create a core dump file. Then I analyze this core file to try to recover as much of my composition as possible. Sometimes I have had success, and other times it hasn't been so easy. This is somewhat a last resort for me, but I've had to do it more often than I like to think about. > better (and i know this may not fit in this discussion) the shell i was > running when it crashed still shows up when i use "ps" (as does pine)-- is > there _any_ way i can get back into that inactive shell, save the message & > get back out? or is there a way to use "kill" so that, during cleanup, it > saves the postponed message? Ideally, when your inactive Pine is sent a signal, it will write the interrupted mail file. Perhaps someone else will know what signal you can give this Pine session. Then you cross your fingers and hope it works. If you know you can get core dump files, then you can use this technique, only if you are willing to do a lot of work to recover the message. However, the improvements in checkpointing and perhaps better signal handling (the authors could say definitively) make it worth upgrading to 3.92, the solution to everything but acne.... Barry Bouwsma, Radio Praha Toblerone Tester From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 30 08:56:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19266; Sat, 30 Mar 96 08:56:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07716; Sat, 30 Mar 96 08:51:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07710; Sat, 30 Mar 96 08:51:25 -0800 Received: from bart.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28551; Sat, 30 Mar 96 08:51:24 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by bart.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20873; Sat, 30 Mar 96 08:51:23 -0800 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 08:51:22 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Morton Lee Cohen , stupid@crl.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC-PINE configuration woes In-Reply-To: <4jfuvu$7v3@freenet-news.carleton.ca> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Eric, Morton: I'm not sure if this is a complete solution, but try putting quotes around the DOS path name that has spaces in it. Also note that even if you succeed in accessing a local copy of the Unix-style mailbox, PC-Pine can only open it READ-ONLY. Also, the remote inbox-path spec is not correct for POP. Drop the ".mailbox" or change that part to "inbox". -teg On 29 Mar 1996, Morton Lee Cohen wrote: > > Eric Penn (stupid@crl.com) writes: > > On 28 Mar 1996 05:07:23 GMT, Morton Lee Cohen wrote: > > > > Thanks for the reply, Morton! > > > >> Until you receive mail, after PC-PINE is installed, you will not > >>have a folder. In fact, if you read mail using another mail reader, first > >>like the Freeport Mail System on Freenets, all incoming mail is read into > >>your mailbox folder and your INBOX is deleted by that mail reader. So, if > >>you use PC-PINE after you accessed your mail, thru the FREENET Mail System, > >>before you use PC-PINE, you will receive, error after warning error, that > >>the INBOX doesn't exist. > >> > >> PC-PINE, when used first, doesn't delete the INBOX Folder. It > >>remains, but empty, if configured to copy mail, once quitting PC-PINE to > >>your mailbox folder and deleting the newer mail. > > > >> From my understanding, PC-PINE doesn't run on Home Computers, not > >>attached to a INTERNET Mail Server, at this time. If you are installing > >>PC-PINE to read your Mail OFFLINE and upload your replies in a > >>postponed-Messages folder. > > > > Obviously I'm missing something simple here. > > > > My INBOX exists -prior- to installing PC-PINE. I currently have about 50-60 > > incoming email messages in my INBOX. This is a local berkeley mailbox format > > file in a valid folder, created by a POP3 client external to PC-PINE. I also > > have a duplicate INBOX in the same exact format (with the same exact > > contentes) on my POP3 mailserver at mail.crl.com. > > > > I am attached to a POP3 mailserver. In my pinerc, I have defined a inbox > > > > inbox-path=C:\PROGRAM FILES\INTERNET ACCESSORIES\INBOX > > > > and > > > > incoming-folders={mail.crl.com/pop3}.mailbox > > > > PC-PINE tells me that the pre-existant INBOX at the path specifified does not > > exist (even though it does), and then tells me that my remote specification is > > invalid (even though it is not). > > > > What am I doing wrong? > > > > -- > > Eric Penn STUPID's three rules to life: > > stupid@crl.com Stick with what you're good at, > > http://www.crl.com/~stupid/ Learn from your mistakes, and > > "stoo" When in doubt, act stupid! > > > > Hi Eric, > > If you posted the above inbox=path statement exactly as you have it > listed in the configuration file, can you tell me, if spaces can exist in > the path statement. Under MS-DOS, which I'm using at home, version 5.0, the > space is considered to be an illegal character. > > Would not the PINE program just see the following: > > inbox-path=C:\PROGRAM ? > > You wrote: > inbox-path=C:\PROGRAM FILES\INTERNET ACCESSORIES\INBOX > > If Unix allows longer directory names, shouldn't you have an > underline character between PROGRAM_FILES and INTERNET_ACCESSORIES instead > of a space? > > example: > inbox-path=C:\PROGRAM_FILES\INTERNET_ACCESSORIES\INBOX > > I am not familiar with Unix as I am with MS-DOS, but would not the > same rules apply for illegal characters in the path? > -- > Morton Lee Cohen --- E-Mail cx163@freenet.carleton.ca > Resume' : Creator of "I Dream of Jeannie" and > Creator and Developer of "XUXA" > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 30 11:26:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22048; Sat, 30 Mar 96 11:26:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22926; Sat, 30 Mar 96 11:20:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22920; Sat, 30 Mar 96 11:20:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u369M-00038FC; Sat, 30 Mar 96 11:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: homeboy@temple.edu Subject: Re: Accessing remote news servers Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 22:53:56 GMT Message-Id: <315c69cb.5496894@ersatz.ocis.temple.edu> References: <4gsvph$rtn@rain.psg.com> On 26 Feb 1996 10:56:49 -0800, (Kim Scarborough) wrote: >This suggestion from Nevin causes me to get a message saying "502 You >have no permission to talk. Goodbye." when I try to get a list of >expanded folders. Can anyone help? > > >---------------- UUencoded Attachment, Cut Here --------------- >begin 666 news1 >M_U=00TP````!"@```````/O_!0`R```````&``@```!"````"``"````2@`` >M````````````````````````````"`!\`'@``````,,,PT9R;VTZ("`@("#$ >M#,1.979I;B!+87!UM;VXN961U(BD*PPS#5&\Z("`@("`@(,0,Q'!I;F4M:6YF;T!C86,N=V%S:&EN >M9W1O;BYE9'4*PPS#1&%T93H@("`@(,0,Q$UO;F1A>2P@1F5BM(#$Y.38@("`R.C$Y(&%M"L,,PU-U8FIE8W0Z("#$#,1293H@06-C97-S:6YG >M(&YE=W-GM($ED(SH@.30Q-"D*"D]N($UO;BP@,C8@1F5B(#$Y.38L($YE=FEN($MA<'5R >M('=R;W1E.@H*6W-I;G!="CX@"CX@/B`@("!(;W<@9&\@22!C;VYF:6=UM=&AIM:71H(`H^(#X@=&AE(")N97=S+6-O;&QE8W1I;VYS(B!S971T:6YG+"!W:&EC >M:"!)(&AA=F5N)W0@;65SM(%!L96%S92!R97-P;VYD('1O(&UE('!EM;VXG="!S=6)S8W)I8F4@=&\@=&AIM"@I3;W)R>2P@:70@M97)V97(O;FYT<'U;70H*3F5V:6XN"@I^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^ >M?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^ >M?GY^?GY^?GX)"DYE=FEN($MA<'5R('P@16QE8W1R:6-A;"!%;F=I;F5EM9R!\($EN9&EA;B!);G-T:71U=&4@;V8-5&5C:&YO;&]G>2U";VUB87D)"B!) >M3E1%4DY%5"`@("`):'1T<#HO+V5E+FEI=&(N97)N970N:6XO?FYE=FEN('P@ >M;F5V:6Y`964N:6ET8BYEM($=AM,#0Y+DEN9&EA(`H@(%!(3TY%"0DV,C@@,3`Y,2P@-C(T(#`R-S()(`I^?GY^ >M?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^ >@?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GY^?GX)"@H*"@I^ >` >end >----------------- End of Attachment, Cut Here ----------------- sure, it's not a public news server ,it's private and you have no business connected to it. any non-public news server will generate that message to you From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 30 12:16:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22987; Sat, 30 Mar 96 12:16:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10194; Sat, 30 Mar 96 12:10:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10186; Sat, 30 Mar 96 12:10:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u36tz-00038FC; Sat, 30 Mar 96 12:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ctorlins@crl.com (Christoph Torlinsky) Subject: pine.conf? Date: 28 Mar 1996 22:44:22 -0800 Message-Id: <4jg0s6$l49@crl10.crl.com> without sounding tooo lame, what does a system wide pine.conf look like? I want all my users to use the same domain foroutbound mail.. thanks Lil chris From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 30 16:18:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27174; Sat, 30 Mar 96 16:18:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12986; Sat, 30 Mar 96 16:06:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12974; Sat, 30 Mar 96 16:06:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u3Ace-00038TC; Sat, 30 Mar 96 16:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pseelig@dialin115.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (Paul Seelig) Subject: Re: PGP interface for Pine 3.92? Date: 26 Mar 1996 04:37:56 GMT Message-Id: <4j7sb4$4sd@dialin115.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> References: >After adding two filters like the above one I noticed that I could not >see which one I was using because of the missing parameters. So I wrote >two shell scripts that just call pgp with -fast or -feast. Now I can see >the names of the scripts. > This would have been very much easier by making a symlink called 'pgpencrypt' to 'pgp' in /usr/local/bin. This way you can see the difference pretty easy too! So you have to include the following entries with desired parameters: /usr/local/bin/pgp -fast _RECIPIENTS_ /usr/local/bin/pgpencrypt -feast _RECIPIENTS_ >Pine could show only the quoted string. This would make it very easy to >distinguish the different filters. > This way there is no need for quoted strings! Paul *8^) -- @..@ Paul Seelig @..@ (----) Jakob-Steffan-Str.39/1103 D-55122 Mainz/Germany (----) ( >__< ) pseelig@goofy.zdv.uni-mainz.de ( >__< ) ^^ ~~ ^^ http://www.uni-mainz.de/~pseelig ^^ ~~ ^^ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 30 16:18:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27212; Sat, 30 Mar 96 16:18:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26592; Sat, 30 Mar 96 16:06:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26586; Sat, 30 Mar 96 16:06:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u3Ace-00038FC; Sat, 30 Mar 96 16:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dpf@afn.org (David P. Fraleigh) Subject: can I slow PINE down? Date: 29 Mar 1996 10:09:53 GMT Message-Id: <4jgcth$oj3@huron.eel.ufl.edu> I recently bought a new (for me faster 14,400) modem... It is a pleasure to use. Being able to access things more quickly is great. However I am having problems using PINE that I didn't have before... It is just that when I type I am getting occasional problems with untyped characters showing up in the text... and difficulty moving the cursor back and forth in the text... etc. etc. It is very frustrating... I even pulled this modem out (Zoltrix 14,4000 wanting to smash it with a hammer) and switched back to my 2400 one... but I have grown used to the speed of the faster one... My question is the following...[ Are the problems that I am having related to the modems higher speed... Are modems more sensitive to line noise or glitches as they get faster (in the same way that faster cars are harder to control)... And if that is the case can I somehow setup PINE to do its stuff at 2400 baud while allowing my other internet viewing to proceed at a faster pace?... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 30 17:09:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28094; Sat, 30 Mar 96 17:09:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27140; Sat, 30 Mar 96 16:56:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27134; Sat, 30 Mar 96 16:56:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u3BNp-00038FC; Sat, 30 Mar 96 16:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu (Ashok Aiyar) Subject: Re: Pine problems Date: 30 Mar 1996 03:05:57 GMT Message-Id: References: On Sat, 30 Mar 1996 02:23:30 GMT, Phoenix wrote: >Or could someone send me the actual pine file that gives 3.89 the >options screen. I don't have that either. It says that the options screen >is not available yet and I have had the account for over 3 months! Can >someone please help?! There is no "additional" file that gives Pine 3.89 the options screen. You can enable whatever options 3.89 had by directly editing your ~/.pinerc file. >Plus does anyone know the name of the file pine uses to generate an autoreply? Pine doesn't do auto-replies. If procmail is installed on your providers system, you can use procmail to filter you incoming mail, generate auto-replies and a myriad of other things. Use "man procmailex" or "man 5 procmailex" to get more information on procmail filtering. I would recommend your talking with your provider to install a newer version of Pine, perhaps 3.91 or 3.92, as well as a mail filtering system. Later, Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar Department of Oncology aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison tel: (608) 262-6697 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 30 18:42:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29382; Sat, 30 Mar 96 18:42:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14690; Sat, 30 Mar 96 18:31:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14684; Sat, 30 Mar 96 18:31:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u3CtQ-00038FC; Sat, 30 Mar 96 18:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= Subject: Re: pine-debug messages Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 14:24:17 +0200 Message-Id: References: <9603291628.AA11058@physics.unipune.ernet.in> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 29 Mar 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Fri, 29 Mar 1996, Ashish S. Nadkarni (CVD) wrote: > > i have installed the solaris executable version of pine 3.91 on our ma$ > > could you please let me know why this happens and whether it can be fi$ You may want to break your text at around 70 characters, because not everyone can see every word of your long lines. On this subject, a new feature of Pine lets you ^Justify the text to which you are responding and it will reformat the quoted text to fit into short lines, more or less... I didn't do it because I have an attitude and a point to make. :-) > You can start pine with -d0 and no debug files will be produced. > The alternative is to recompile with the appropriate changes. If you compile disabling debugging, then you will never get the debug files no matter how you start Pine. This has caused me much hair loss trying to figure out the source of problems that the debug files might have been able to help -- until 3.92, the SGI Pines were compiled by default with debugging disabled. Better, from a SysAdmin point of view, is to alias pine to pine -d0 (don't write debug files). Then if one has need to make use of debug files, there are two options -- Start pine as \pine (enables default debugging)... another possibility is, which is undocumented but useful: from the Main menu screen, typing a number sets the debugging level to the number you type. So, if you want to reproduce a bug you've found and get detailed information about what happens, go to the Main menu, type 9 (or similar), and then recreate the bug. The debug file will have the needed detail at that point. These debug files are harmless, they are rotated so you have no more than four at any given time, and they can be invaluable when you have problems, so unless you really are short on diskspace, I suggest you not recompile Pine to disable debugging. Barry Bouwsma, convicted of Pine debuggery Radio Praha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 30 19:11:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29887; Sat, 30 Mar 96 19:11:20 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28684; Sat, 30 Mar 96 19:01:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28678; Sat, 30 Mar 96 19:01:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u3DLl-00038FC; Sat, 30 Mar 96 18:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: ipop3d from imap distribution. Is if a full implementation? Date: 30 Mar 96 19:52:29 GMT Message-Id: Even though I think it is entirely reasonable to insist that people login to the main terminal server on campus and run pine to receive email, more and more of them want to be able to access their mail with pop3, using either the win95 mail program, eudora, or netscape. To that end I installed the ipop[23]d's today. When I try to access a test mailbox using ns2 for solaris over a dialup network connection, and I have the "leave mail on server" box checked on netscape, I get the following error message: The POP3 server does not support UIDL, which netscape mail needs to implement the "Leave on Server".... If I turn off the option in netscape, pop wants to move all the mail to the client machine. I know imapd would work more the way I want it, but users are not interested in running PC-Pine, they insist on the above apps. Is netscape misreporting this deficiency in ipop3d, or do I need to find a different pop daemon for my solaris mailhost. Thank you for any information/insight. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 30 20:50:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01270; Sat, 30 Mar 96 20:50:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16011; Sat, 30 Mar 96 20:33:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16005; Sat, 30 Mar 96 20:33:00 -0800 Received: from bart.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04392; Sat, 30 Mar 96 20:33:00 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by bart.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25755; Sat, 30 Mar 96 20:32:59 -0800 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 20:32:58 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: "R. Stewart Ellis" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ipop3d from imap distribution. Is if a full implementation? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Stew, The imapd and ipop*d that are shipped with the Pine 3.92 (and earlier) distributions are based on the version 3 c-client libraries, which predate the recent addition of UIDL to the POP spec. For POP UIDL support, you need the ipop*d stuff from: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap-4.BETA.tar.Z -teg On 30 Mar 1996, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > Even though I think it is entirely reasonable to insist that people login to > the main terminal server on campus and run pine to receive email, more and > more of them want to be able to access their mail with pop3, using either > the win95 mail program, eudora, or netscape. To that end I installed the > ipop[23]d's today. When I try to access a test mailbox using ns2 for > solaris over a dialup network connection, and I have the "leave mail on > server" box checked on netscape, I get the following error message: > > The POP3 server does not support UIDL, which netscape mail needs to > implement the "Leave on Server".... > > If I turn off the option in netscape, pop wants to move all the mail to the > client machine. I know imapd would work more the way I want it, but users > are not interested in running PC-Pine, they insist on the above apps. > > Is netscape misreporting this deficiency in ipop3d, or do I need to find a > different pop daemon for my solaris mailhost. > > Thank you for any information/insight. > > > > -- > R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ > Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ > Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / > Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 30 21:01:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01424; Sat, 30 Mar 96 21:01:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29918; Sat, 30 Mar 96 20:50:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29912; Sat, 30 Mar 96 20:50:13 -0800 Received: from bart.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04526; Sat, 30 Mar 96 20:50:12 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by bart.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25886; Sat, 30 Mar 96 20:50:11 -0800 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 20:50:11 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Eigil Krogh Sorenen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Q] Pine as default mailer in Win95 ? In-Reply-To: <315AF906.188A@aar-vki.dk> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > I take it that it isn't at all possible to get MS-exchange to use imap ? Not yet, but I expect there to be an IMAP driver for MAPI (and therefore the Exchange client) sometime later this year. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Mar 30 22:15:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02636; Sat, 30 Mar 96 22:15:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17209; Sat, 30 Mar 96 22:06:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aruba.CCIT.Arizona.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17201; Sat, 30 Mar 96 22:06:52 -0800 Received: (from yontaek@localhost) by aruba.ccit.arizona.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA116563; Sat, 30 Mar 1996 23:08:14 -0700 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 23:08:14 -0700 (MST) From: Choi X-Sender: yontaek@aruba.ccit.arizona.edu To: pine listserv Subject: opening folder Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This might be a too easy question, yet I can't figure it out. A friend of mine uses VAX pine, and he can't open any folder. So he can't even come into the INBOX. It used to work well. Before it was stucked, he sent an undeliverable message and got a talk message, which he couldn't answer, if these are related with the folder problem. Any help? Yontaek From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 31 01:33:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05792; Sun, 31 Mar 96 01:33:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19247; Sun, 31 Mar 96 01:27:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19241; Sun, 31 Mar 96 01:27:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u3JN1-00038FC; Sun, 31 Mar 96 01:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pegboy@gti.net ( ) Subject: Re: How send postpone mail Pine Date: 29 Mar 1996 14:23:22 GMT Message-Id: <4jgror$a6d@gti.gti.net> References: <4jbce0$4ise@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> I assume you hit ^O to postpone it... then, from the main menu, hit C)ompose, the Y)es to continue it and mail it away as you would any other mail...:) Javier Hernandez (root@David.lcv.es) wrote: : Hi All, : I did used yesterday the option in the menu (when : composing a message or replying) that is called : Postpone. : Does anyone how I can send those messages ? I did : try to find any command that deals with that but : I was not able to find it. : I have notice that a folder called postponed-messages : was created but I do not know how to handle it. : thanks : -- : --------------oOo-------------------- : Javi : fjherna@ibm.net : fj.chicha@p48.europa3.encomix.com : Valencia, SPAIN :  From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 31 01:33:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05817; Sun, 31 Mar 96 01:33:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02996; Sun, 31 Mar 96 01:27:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02990; Sun, 31 Mar 96 01:27:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u3JN1-00038TC; Sun, 31 Mar 96 01:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: command line args to start pine viewing news group list? Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 10:51:23 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What's the best command line arguments to use to start pine and have it present me my list of news groups? Note that I often have multiple sessions of pine going, including one that's viewing my inbox, so I want to make sure that whenever I open up a pine session for news reading it does not access my inbox (or any other folder) and lock it up and make it read only. Thanks for any tips, Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 31 01:34:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05854; Sun, 31 Mar 96 01:34:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19258; Sun, 31 Mar 96 01:27:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19249; Sun, 31 Mar 96 01:27:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u3JNR-00038UC; Sun, 31 Mar 96 01:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pollarda@Hawaii.Edu (Art Pollard) Subject: W: Script to randomize .signature files Message-Id: Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 02:49:37 GMT I am looking for a script which I can include in my .login file which will randomly choose a file out of a specified directory and copy it over the current .signature file. This would of course create a new .signature file each time I logged in. Is there such a script out there? I know that some programs do it automaticly but, I would like a general script that I can run that will make it work for both my newsreader and mailreader. Any help would be greatly appreciated, Thanks, -Art From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 31 03:03:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06910; Sun, 31 Mar 96 03:03:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03848; Sun, 31 Mar 96 02:57:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03842; Sun, 31 Mar 96 02:57:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u3KoT-00038FC; Sun, 31 Mar 96 02:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Seth Rogovoy Subject: Multiple Incoming Folders Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:32:15 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do I create additional folders for incoming mail, other than my main inbox. Specifically, I would like to create a separate folder for messages coming from high-volume mailing list. Sorrry. This is probably a FAQ. But I can't find the answer anywhere else, at least not in enough detail to figure out how to do it. Also, I would greatly appreciate it if in addition to posting the message here you could privately e-mail it, as my newsgroup accesshas been severely spotty, up and down, in the last week. Thanks in advance, ***************************************** Seth Rogovoy rogovoy@berkshire.net http://www.berkshireweb.com/rogovoy music news, interviews, reviews, et. al. ***************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 31 04:20:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08570; Sun, 31 Mar 96 04:20:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04772; Sun, 31 Mar 96 04:14:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sangam.ncst.ernet.in by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04766; Sun, 31 Mar 96 04:14:09 -0800 Received: from iucaa.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by sangam.ncst.ernet.in (8.6.12/8.6.6) with UUCP id RAA29759 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:46:57 +0530 Received: from unipune.ernet.in by iucaa (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27740; Sun, 31 Mar 96 17:18:13+050 Received: from physics.unipune.ernet.in by unipune.ernet.in (5.0/SMI-SVR4.1.0) id AA02112; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:05:29 +0500 Received: by physics.unipune.ernet.in (5.0/SMI-SVR4.1.0) id AA01767; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:13:23 +0500 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:13:21 -0500 (GMT) From: "Ashish S. Nadkarni" X-Sender: ashish@physics To: Pine Information Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 964 dear sir, could you please let me know whether pine supports auto reply or whether i need to install an auto reply/filtering system.i have heard of procmail but i do not know where to get it from.any suggestions? thanks ashish ______________________________________________________________________ | | | ASHISH S. NADKARNI ashish@physics.unipune.ernet.in | |----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Scanning Tunneling Microscopy Lab,|res address: | | DEPARTMENT OF PHYSICS, |21/2A,Jagdishnagar, | | UNIVERSITY OF PUNE, |Ganeshkhind Road, | | INDIA. |Aundh,Pune-411007 | | |Maharashtra,India. | |______________________________________________________________________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 31 04:57:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09155; Sun, 31 Mar 96 04:57:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21378; Sun, 31 Mar 96 04:50:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hermes.cti.gr by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21369; Sun, 31 Mar 96 04:50:14 -0800 Received: (from dimakop@localhost) by hermes.cti.gr (8.7.4/8.7.3) id PAA03491; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 15:46:20 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 15:46:20 +0300 (EET DST) From: Dimakopoulos Panagiotis To: "Ashish S. Nadkarni" Cc: Pine Information Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 31 Mar 1996, Ashish S. Nadkarni wrote: > dear sir, > could you please let me know whether pine supports auto reply or > whether i need to install an auto reply/filtering system.i have heard of > procmail but i do not know where to get it from.any suggestions? > thanks > ashish > > ______________________________________________________________________ > | | > | ASHISH S. NADKARNI ashish@physics.unipune.ernet.in | > |----------------------------------------------------------------------| > | Scanning Tunneling Microscopy Lab,|res address: | > | DEPARTMENT OF PHYSICS, |21/2A,Jagdishnagar, | > | UNIVERSITY OF PUNE, |Ganeshkhind Road, | > | INDIA. |Aundh,Pune-411007 | > | |Maharashtra,India. | > |______________________________________________________________________| > > > Package procmail from ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de will do what you are asking for. Pine can work quite well with this. Regards, ------------------------------------------------------ | Panos Dimakopoulos dimakop@cti.gr | | COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY INSTITUTE | | P.O. Box 1122 | | 261 10 Patras, Greece | | Tel (+30) 61 992061, 994317 Fax (+30) 61 993973 | ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 31 05:24:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09592; Sun, 31 Mar 96 05:24:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21644; Sun, 31 Mar 96 05:17:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21638; Sun, 31 Mar 96 05:17:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u3Mxi-00038FC; Sun, 31 Mar 96 05:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Christopher W. Curtis" Subject: Future Enhancement Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 05:11:04 GMT Whoops ... guess I missed the deadline for Pine 3.92, but I just thought of it now! I sent a group of attachments to a colleague that totalled about 2.5 MB, and sending took just shy of forever ... would it be possible (if it hasn't been done already) to make the sending of mail a thread so that the UI can be free up? Should be a simple vfork() call, but I don't know how PINE was originally designed. DOS users can suffer their non-threading OS. :) rgds, -- Christopher Curtis, Sun SysAdmin - http://www.ee.fit.edu/users/ccurtis Florida Institute of Technology - telnet bofh.engr.wisc.edu 666 Melbourne, Florida USA - Member, Team OS/2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 31 05:43:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09866; Sun, 31 Mar 96 05:43:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05578; Sun, 31 Mar 96 05:37:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05572; Sun, 31 Mar 96 05:37:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u3NK0-00038FC; Sun, 31 Mar 96 05:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cx163@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Morton Lee Cohen) Subject: PINE Wish Feature Date: 28 Mar 1996 04:40:02 GMT Message-Id: <4jd572$7tc@freenet-news.carleton.ca> Hi All, I would like to see PINE have a feature that allows the ability to attach a Subject Line to use with the Address book entry. This feature would be useful for game players, like E-Mail Chess game players to use the Compose command, which then entering their opponent's nickname from the address book entry, it would automatically fill in the Subject line, then the sender can tab down to the text area and read the file uploaded to the board or freenet into the message area, then the user can send the move off. Now to use the same Subject line, one can just type the subject in, or find the previous move received from their opponent and use the reply function. Just a wish to make writing a reply in E-Mail games, faster. :) -- Morton Lee Cohen --- E-Mail cx163@freenet.carleton.ca Resume' : Creator of "I Dream of Jeannie" and Creator and Developer of "XUXA" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 31 06:39:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10514; Sun, 31 Mar 96 06:39:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22357; Sun, 31 Mar 96 06:32:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22351; Sun, 31 Mar 96 06:32:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u3OA3-00038FC; Sun, 31 Mar 96 06:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nsrfg@aurora.alaska.edu (Ramon Gandia) Subject: Re: Problem with Pico editor Date: 30 Mar 1996 08:07:33 GMT Message-Id: <4jiq45$j6j@news.alaska.edu> References: <4j5oi2$pob@newnews.iafrica.com> <4jf9jk$q1a@pioneer.uspto.gov> In Pico I mark text starting with control-caret or maybe its control-6. Nothing seems to happen; but when I move my cursor down, the text gets highlighted a line at a time. When I get to where I want to finish, I hit control-k adn the highlighted text dissaperars. In every case I've come across people having "Unix problems", the fault is generally that they are using a PC with vt-100 emulation. I looked long and hard for a vt-100 emulator that was easy to use and bug-free. For instance, most won't print out of Pico or Pine. PC-VT is my DOS terminal program, you can get it from the Simtel 20 CD ROM set. Ramon. Nome, Alaska. +25F, clear, calm. sdildine@pioneer.uspto.gov wrote: : Deon de Villiers (tsunix@iafrica.com) wrote: : : Hi All : : : : I have recently downloaded and compiled the pico editor. It is just : : what I was looking for - nice and easy for new users. : : : : I have two issues I would like some help on. : : : : 1. The help tells me that Ctrl-^ is used to select text. I cannot : : seem to get this right : Hold down the control, the shift and the white 6 (the one at the top of the : keyboard, not the grey one) all at the same time. : -- : sdildine@uspto.gov http://cpcug.org/user/2bunnys : The Patent Office won't tell me what they think, so I can't tell you. : If You are squeamish, Don't prod the beach rubble - Sappho of Lesbos From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 31 06:40:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10540; Sun, 31 Mar 96 06:40:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22373; Sun, 31 Mar 96 06:33:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aruba.CCIT.Arizona.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22367; Sun, 31 Mar 96 06:33:43 -0800 Received: (from yontaek@localhost) by aruba.ccit.arizona.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA112348; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 07:35:23 -0700 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 07:35:22 -0700 (MST) From: Choi X-Sender: yontaek@aruba.ccit.arizona.edu To: Marianne.Aldridge@UAlberta.CA Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: opening folder (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thank you for your interest. He is a real novice at pine. I am a little older novice. I don't know what AFS is, yet he uses a normal and typical system prompt. I cannot find anything else wrong except these: when I press "i" at the pine main menu screen, it does not change and say "Folder Closed" and after coming to all folder lists and placing the cursor on INBOX, when I press ENTER, it doesn't change and say "Folder Closed" and when I press "d" for delete, it doesn't work. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 00:14:34 -0700 (MST) From: Lea To: Choi Subject: Re: opening folder On Sat, 30 Mar 1996, Choi wrote: > This might be a too easy question, yet I can't figure it out. > A friend of mine uses VAX pine, and he can't open any folder. So he > can't even come into the INBOX. It used to work well. Before it was > stucked, he sent an undeliverable message and got a talk message, which he > couldn't answer, if these are related with the folder problem. Tell me exactly what happens when he logs into his account. Are they running AFS on his system? is he getting a different system prompt than normal? Besides no folder access, is there anything else that isn't working the way it usually does? Lea ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) http://www.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/tutor/Tutorials.html http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/Wiz/Wizard ..'But I didn't *mean* to be brave - it just sort of happened when I panicked...'... -Piglet ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 31 09:41:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13319; Sun, 31 Mar 96 09:41:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24278; Sun, 31 Mar 96 09:31:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [199.0.71.15] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24272; Sun, 31 Mar 96 09:31:56 -0800 Received: from jimc.rounder.com ([199.0.71.182]) by rounder.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA17184 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:38:44 -0500 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:09:21 -0500 () From: Jim Cappucci To: Pine Info List Subject: PC-Pine: opening addressbooks Message-Id: X-Sender: jimc@rounder.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In PC-Pine 3.92, I'm getting a "Can't create filename.lu" error every time I try to access an addressbook named anything other than c:\pine\addrbook. The files are being opened, but every time each user goes into pine, they get error messages. Here's an excerpt from a recent pinecrsh file: - adrbk_open(C:\pine\addrbook) - Address book addrbook (C:\pine\addrbook) opened with 19 items - adrbk_open(f:\public\pine\groups) - Can't create "f:\public\pine\groups.lu", change name of addrbook "f:\public\pine\groups" so that it doesn't have a "." in it. Using temp file for now. trying tmpfile C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\a3a36877 Lookup file C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\a3a36877 doesn't exist, creating C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\a3a36877 is not valid, rebuilding Address book GROUPS (f:\public\pine\groups) opened with 25 items Right now, I'm the only one in email. Groups.lu doesn't already exist. I have permission to write to that directory. I've tried renaming it c:\groups, c:\addbook, groups, addbook.... always the same error. I can open the default addrbook as local or global, but can't open anything else local or global, old or new, without that error. This error didn't occur with 3.91. Any ideas? -jim jimc@rounder.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 31 10:57:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14487; Sun, 31 Mar 96 10:57:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25225; Sun, 31 Mar 96 10:51:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [206.39.25.36] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25219; Sun, 31 Mar 96 10:51:16 -0800 Received: (from palmer@localhost) by bhn47fsb.1ad.army.mil (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA00900; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:51:58 +0100 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:51:44 +0100 (GMT+0100) From: palmer michael To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Excuse me, but I am in need of some help and you are my next step. I have two problems that are absolutely mind-boggling to me, maybe not to you, but wanted to voice them and ask for some guidance. First, and foremost, how can I send a simple file via email from any given drive, such as a:, b:, c:, and ect... Second, unfortunately I haven't been able to send any email to this address "johnny-chittum@kh.com". Is there anything you can do from your end to see what the mixup is. If you can, please respond to my cloudy confusion. Thanks, Shane Chittum From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 31 11:50:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15605; Sun, 31 Mar 96 11:50:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09537; Sun, 31 Mar 96 11:43:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09531; Sun, 31 Mar 96 11:43:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u3Sxc-00038FC; Sun, 31 Mar 96 11:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: h9052993@asterix.wu-wien.ac.at (markus lenotti) Subject: Turn off PINE Sender:-field writing Date: 29 Mar 1996 16:39:19 GMT Message-Id: <4jh3nn$236@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at> Hi all, I am running LINUX with sendmail 8.6.2. Mail ist delivered via a PPP-link to my university. At the university my name is h9052993@asterix.wu-wien.ac.at (real), at home I am mad@r2d2.. (virtual domain). Whenever I use pine, it composes the Sender: - field to mad@r2d2... I have allready spent lots of time to persuade sendmail to masquerade as h9052993@asterix..., but pine always encloses the hardcoded adress (done in sendmail.cf, works with elm) and appends the virtual address. The result is Sender: "h9052993@asterix.wu-wien.ac.at " mad@r2d2.wu-wien.ac.at which is complete rubbish. Did already rtfm for pine, but didn't find the right config option. Thanks in advance Markus Lenotti From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 31 12:09:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15878; Sun, 31 Mar 96 12:09:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09779; Sun, 31 Mar 96 12:03:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dcdsv0.fnal.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09773; Sun, 31 Mar 96 12:03:24 -0800 Received: from localhost by dcdsv0.fnal.gov via SMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/940406.SGI) for id OAA07514; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 14:03:23 -0600 Message-Id: <199603312003.OAA07514@dcdsv0.fnal.gov> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Unix Introductory Information Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 14:03:22 CST From: Clyde Moseberry For whomever needed Unix introductory information. The University of Missouri has an online Web Unix course and book references at: http://musie.phlab.missouri.edu/IntroToUnix/unix-tutor/index.html The Table of Contents (each item a hyperlink) is: Basic Unix Concepts and Skills 1.1. What is Unix? 1.2. Connecting to a Local Unix System 1.3. Unix Windowing Facilities 1.4. Entering Unix Commands 1.5. Sources of Information About Unix 1.6. Electronic Mail with Pine Unix Files 2.1. Remote Login and Dialup 2.2. Unix File Concepts 2.3. Editing Files 2.4. File Security 2.5. File Copying, Backup, and Transfer 2.6. Printing Unix Utilities and Applications 3.1. Frequently-Asked Questions--and Answers! 3.2. Unix and the Internet 3.3. Unix Utilities 3.4. Some Frequently-Used Applications 3.5. Unix Shells and Shell Scripts Sections 2 and 3 above appear to be under construction. What has been done with section 1 is commendable and very promising. C. V. Moseberry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 31 13:12:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16991; Sun, 31 Mar 96 13:12:20 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10473; Sun, 31 Mar 96 13:02:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from the-college.iwctx.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10461; Sun, 31 Mar 96 13:02:15 -0800 Received: by the-college.iwctx.edu (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04586; Sun, 31 Mar 96 15:04:18 -0600 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 15:04:17 -0600 (CST) From: Seth Anderson To: Art Pollard Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: W: Script to randomize .signature files In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 29 Mar 1996, Art Pollard wrote: > I am looking for a script which I can include in my .login file > which will randomly choose a file out of a specified directory > and copy it over the current .signature file. This would of course > create a new .signature file each time I logged in. Once you find it (if it exits), please let me know... Also, as a suggestion for future addition, PINE might be compatible with multiple signature files. Even the allowance of specific signature files to specified addresses... I use three signature files now: (1) for person-to-person (same site) E-Mail, (2) for person-to-person (off-site) E-Mail, and (3) for person-to-group (mailing list) messages... Thankx... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 31 13:20:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17220; Sun, 31 Mar 96 13:20:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26982; Sun, 31 Mar 96 13:08:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26976; Sun, 31 Mar 96 13:08:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u3UKw-00038FC; Sun, 31 Mar 96 13:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Charles Cooper Subject: pine 3.92 problems Next3.2 Intel Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 05:55:03 -0800 Message-Id: <315E8EB6.2C83@halcyon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I compiled and installed pine 3.92 on a Next Intel version 3.2 and am finding that it operates significantly slower than 3.91 and it appears to be causing my swap file to grow significantly. Any ideas? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 31 13:34:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17394; Sun, 31 Mar 96 13:34:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10821; Sun, 31 Mar 96 13:28:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10815; Sun, 31 Mar 96 13:28:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u3Ufg-00038TC; Sun, 31 Mar 96 13:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gaojeng@durras.anu.edu.au (Jie Gao) Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: 26 Mar 1996 23:29:07 GMT Message-Id: <4j9uk3$hvi@manuel.anu.edu.au> cancel in newsgroup comp.mail.pine -- Gao, Jie From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 31 20:39:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25153; Sun, 31 Mar 96 20:39:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02541; Sun, 31 Mar 96 20:34:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02535; Sun, 31 Mar 96 20:34:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u3bJ2-00038FC; Sun, 31 Mar 96 20:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Col. Brewster" Subject: Printing to screen with pine Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:46:01 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it possible to print messages to the screen using pine 3.91? Viewing a message screen by screen is too slow for me. Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 31 22:17:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26952; Sun, 31 Mar 96 22:17:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17360; Sun, 31 Mar 96 22:04:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17354; Sun, 31 Mar 96 22:04:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u3cig-00038FC; Sun, 31 Mar 96 22:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bm71569@devel.themis.ag.gov.bc.ca (Jamie Royer) Subject: Re: Personal and mailing list mail no longer indicated in 3.92 Message-Id: <1996Mar31.153603.7852@venus.gov.bc.ca> Date: 31 Mar 96 15:36:03 PST References: <4jh319$6m3@access4.digex.net> trow@access4.digex.net (Sue Trowbridge) writes: > One of my favorite things about pine was the way it put a "+" sign > next to my personal messages. Could it be you need to define "alt-addresses" in setup configuration? I have an alias "jroyer", when I receive mail under the alias I see a "+". If I remove the alias from setup, I don't see the "+". Note that if you add the alias, any already received messages won't adjust to show the "+". BUT, if you delete and undelete the message after changing setup, the "+" appears. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jamie Royer Tel: (604) 775-2879 Senior Programmer Fax: (604) 775-2880 GAEA Management & Consulting Ltd. E-Mail: jroyer@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca Burnaby, BC, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- My opinions may be wrong, but at least they're my own. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Mar 31 23:16:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27847; Sun, 31 Mar 96 23:16:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04488; Sun, 31 Mar 96 23:09:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.03/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04482; Sun, 31 Mar 96 23:09:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u3dhs-00038FC; Sun, 31 Mar 96 23:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Finn Hybjerg Hansen Subject: Re: what are mtest and pilot? Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 09:31:25 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4iumjd$qdb@gazette.wv.tek.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 22 Mar 1996, David L Miller wrote: dlm> > pilot - ??? dlm> dlm> PIne's Lister Of Things. It is basically the file browser from dlm> pine/pico stripped out for use as a file browser. This is Pilot's dlm> first public release, so let us know what you think! Quick, easy and simple, but I can't see/edit my .files :-( Regards from Finn in Denmark ----------------------------------- --------------------------------------- Name : Finn Hybjerg Hansen | Aalborg University Email : fhh@kom.auc.dk | Institute of Electronic Systems Phone : +45 98 15 85 22 | Department of Communication Technology Direct: +45 98 15 42 11 - 4807 | Fredrik Bajers Vej 7A (Room A1-203) Fax : +45 98 15 67 40 | DK-9220 Aalborg Oest ,,, WWW : http://www.kom.auc.dk/~fhh | DENMARK (o o) ----------------------------------- ------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo----