From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 03:39:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19579; Tue, 1 Aug 95 03:39:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18371; Tue, 1 Aug 95 03:33:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18365; Tue, 1 Aug 95 03:33:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdEbL-00038EC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 03:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tetsuo@grove.ufl.edu (Vinod Vijay Tandon) Subject: How do I move the cursor word by word (not by characters)? Date: 1 Aug 1995 06:11:44 GMT Message-Id: <3vkgj0$sqh@cutter.clas.ufl.edu> Status: O X-Status: I was just wondering, How can i move my cursor word by word when composing a mail message? I think the editor that pine uses is pico im not sure ( It resembles it a whole lot) Im tired of looking like a fool try to get from part of a sentece to the next, tapping that button like a madman. Incedently in case anyone else wants to know.. to get to the end of the sentence tpye ctrl-e to get to the beggining of the sentence type ctrl-a much like most editors thanks vinny From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 04:14:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20665; Tue, 1 Aug 95 04:14:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19020; Tue, 1 Aug 95 04:08:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19014; Tue, 1 Aug 95 04:08:02 -0700 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0sdFCt-000s9tC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 13:09 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Tue, 1 Aug 95 13:07 MESZ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 13:07:50 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Joswig X-Sender: michaelj@paddington Reply-To: michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE To: BJ Adkins Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: folder.lock problem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hmm, do you have a directory /mail and do you have write permissions on it? try "touch /mail/tryit" if you get the same error again you either have to create /mail and check your permission or check your config. BTW on UNIX mail is kept in /var/spool/mail or /var/mail, I've never seen /mail? Ciao, Michael J On Mon, 31 Jul 1995, BJ Adkins wrote: > Whenever I open or close a folder I get the error > message "Error creating /mail/XXX.lock: no such file or > directory. Is there a setting I need to check > somewhere? > > -- > BJ Adkins > PACCOM Technician, University of Hawaii > (808) 956-5335 > adkins@Hawaii.Edu > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i Comment: PGP Signed with PineSign 2.0 iQB1AwUBMB4K+xWxHCTRfN4BAQFSEgL+O2NCafW+CHgGRXmqIvbOfrFC12HDUSVG MFoKvpGPuxteze9M2+C5hCOMiS7t40xw0Ew0V7DhmsU/Tabyc9r4r9MRQGFlUjcc 91hvspj/HYgYJxjBEdIzTJqp7N5XBF5x =NvgT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE Tel. (040) 651 56 25 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 05:59:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22778; Tue, 1 Aug 95 05:59:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13703; Tue, 1 Aug 95 05:54:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13697; Tue, 1 Aug 95 05:54:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdGnl-00038CC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 05:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gweisz@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Gideon Weisz) Subject: Re: how use external filter? Date: 1 Aug 1995 06:41:51 -0600 Message-Id: <3vl7ef$h67@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: <3vfvrg$j9c@nyx10.cs.du.edu> <3vhllf$i18@netnews.upenn.edu> Status: O X-Status: Thanks to Timothy Cheney, but part of the problem here is that the pipe command doesn't seem to be recognized, because it is part of an "old-growth" config option according to the man page, but i don't see it as an option in the standard .pinerc, so i'm kind of lost here. or, maybe i haven't used the pipe at the right place? maybe that helps define where i am lost? thanks, gideon Timothy P. Cheney (tcheney@lexis.pop.upenn.edu) wrote: : The pipe command will allow you to cause a received message to be used : as standard input of a program like a filter. : For composing messages, you can use an alternate editor. Look : for one that will allow you to define a macro that accomplishes what : you want to do. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 07:21:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24688; Tue, 1 Aug 95 07:21:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21519; Tue, 1 Aug 95 07:14:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21513; Tue, 1 Aug 95 07:14:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdI0s-00038BC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 07:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pickerin@phoenix.sas.muohio.edu (Robert A. Pickering Jr.) Subject: Re: Sending a message to all PINE users. Date: 1 Aug 1995 13:37:34 GMT Message-Id: <3vlamu$4hm5@rose.muohio.edu> References: <3vbjsk$17a@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Status: RO X-Status: Try 'man wall' Jeffback (jeffback@aol.com) wrote: : We are running PINE on a SCO UNIX 486 computer. Is there any way to send : a message to all of our 90 users at once. : I've seen a message sent from a "SUPERUSER" that appeared to send a : message to all users but I cannot get it to work on our system. : Anybody have any ideas??? : -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 10:48:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03445; Tue, 1 Aug 95 10:48:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18804; Tue, 1 Aug 95 10:44:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18798; Tue, 1 Aug 95 10:44:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdLKm-00038BC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 10:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccurtis@ee.fit.edu (Christopher W. Curtis) Subject: PINE 3.91 & MIME [?] Message-Id: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 15:22:21 GMT Status: O X-Status: Greetings, I received I multi-part MIME message, in around 60 parts (each part being about 30k in length). The headers appear as: (Full headers on) >>>---------------------------------------------------------<<< [message 1] Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 01 Aug 95 02:09:36 -0600 From: xxxx To: "Christopher Curtis" [...] X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: message/partial; charset="US-ASCII"; id="A.PARTIAL.MESSAGE.ID.0041.807257898"; number=1 [ Part 1: "Included Message" ] MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 01 Aug 95 02:09:36 -0600 From: xxxx To: "Christopher Curtis" , [...] X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: multipart/mixed; charset="US-ASCII"; boundary="PART.BOUNDARY.0041.807257846" > THIS IS A MESSAGE IN 'MIME' FORMAT. Your mail reader does not support MIME. > You may not be able to read some parts of this message. --PART.BOUNDARY.0041.807257846 Content-ID: <41_68_1_807257378> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: (the message went here) ------------------------------- [user id] --PART.BOUNDARY.0041.807257846 Content-ID: <41_68_1_807257713> Content-Type: application/octet-stream Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: (octet stream) >>>---------------------------------------------------------<<< [message 2] Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 01 Aug 95 02:09:36 -0600 From: xxxxx To: "Christopher Curtis" , [...] X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: message/partial; charset="US-ASCII"; id="A.PARTIAL.MESSAGE.ID.0041.807257898"; number=2 [ Part 1: "Included Message" ] 3yfbWJKvwA9PkQlBfsd/wfcF+b4WopJ9jvou2bf/T/NVsm+Q64ulvu+MT/KfkH2V5Hdxku9l (etcetera to message 6x). >>>---------------------------------------------------------<<< I was wondering if this is 'normal', an extension added to UltiMail, or if Pine simply does not support multipart messages. If the last, will Pine (4.00?) support it? -- T | Christopher Curtis | Those who would sacrifice | O E | Sun Lab System Administrator | liberty for security | S A | Florida Institute of Technology | deserve neither. | / M | Melbourne, Florida N|N -Benjamin Franklin | 2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 13:54:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11529; Tue, 1 Aug 95 13:54:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00990; Tue, 1 Aug 95 13:47:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00984; Tue, 1 Aug 95 13:47:06 -0700 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0sdOFB-000s9SC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 22:48 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Tue, 1 Aug 95 22:46 MESZ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 22:46:56 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Joswig X-Sender: michaelj@paddington Reply-To: michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE To: "Christopher W. Curtis" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE 3.91 & MIME [?] In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: As the Technical Notes states does PINE 3.91 not support multipart Messages Sorry, Michael Joswig PS: The Statement reads "currently not supported" so there IS hope ;-) On Tue, 1 Aug 1995, Christopher W. Curtis wrote: > Greetings, > [ Many lines deleted] > From: xxxxx > To: "Christopher Curtis" , > [...] > X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center > Content-Type: message/partial; charset="US-ASCII"; > id="A.PARTIAL.MESSAGE.ID.0041.807257898"; > number=2 > > > [ Part 1: "Included Message" ] > > 3yfbWJKvwA9PkQlBfsd/wfcF+b4WopJ9jvou2bf/T/NVsm+Q64ulvu+MT/KfkH2V5Hdxku9l > (etcetera to message 6x). > > >>>---------------------------------------------------------<<< > > I was wondering if this is 'normal', an extension added to > UltiMail, or if Pine simply does not support multipart messages. > > If the last, will Pine (4.00?) support it? > -- > T | Christopher Curtis | Those who would sacrifice | O > E | Sun Lab System Administrator | liberty for security | S > A | Florida Institute of Technology | deserve neither. | / > M | Melbourne, Florida N|N -Benjamin Franklin | 2 > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE Tel. (040) 651 56 25 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 14:47:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13866; Tue, 1 Aug 95 14:47:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02299; Tue, 1 Aug 95 14:43:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from universe.net.Hawaii.Edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02293; Tue, 1 Aug 95 14:43:24 -0700 Received: by universe.net.hawaii.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id LAA06722; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 11:41:07 -1000 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 11:41:07 -1000 (HST) From: BJ Adkins To: michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: folder.lock problem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I got it...seems that the example in the .pinerc file shows mail/[] but changing it to /mail/[] works ok. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,+ +, , BJ Adkins, UH Networks Voice: (808) 956-5335 , , PACCOM Network Technician ''' Fax: (808) 956-9399 , , University of Hawaii (o o) Pager: 299-4323 , , --ooO--(_)--Ooo-- e-mail: adkins@Hawaii.Edu , +,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,+ On Tue, 1 Aug 1995, Michael Joswig wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hmm, > > do you have a directory /mail and do you have write permissions on it? > > try "touch /mail/tryit" if you get the same error again you either have to create /mail and > check your permission or check your config. > > BTW on UNIX mail is kept in /var/spool/mail or /var/mail, I've never seen /mail? > > Ciao, > Michael J > > > > > On Mon, 31 Jul 1995, BJ Adkins wrote: > > > Whenever I open or close a folder I get the error > > message "Error creating /mail/XXX.lock: no such file or > > directory. Is there a setting I need to check > > somewhere? > > > > -- > > BJ Adkins > > PACCOM Technician, University of Hawaii > > (808) 956-5335 > > adkins@Hawaii.Edu > > > > > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.2i > Comment: PGP Signed with PineSign 2.0 > > iQB1AwUBMB4K+xWxHCTRfN4BAQFSEgL+O2NCafW+CHgGRXmqIvbOfrFC12HDUSVG > MFoKvpGPuxteze9M2+C5hCOMiS7t40xw0Ew0V7DhmsU/Tabyc9r4r9MRQGFlUjcc > 91hvspj/HYgYJxjBEdIzTJqp7N5XBF5x > =NvgT > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > ================================================================ > Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE > Tel. (040) 651 56 25 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 15:04:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14484; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:04:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02680; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:00:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02674; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:00:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdPKI-00038BC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 14:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: .mailcap and Pine Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 14:43:38 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3vlsuc$9sb@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3vlsuc$9sb@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Status: O X-Status: Pine interprets the .mailcap file itself and does not use metamail. Pine does honor the MAILCAPS environment variable to specify a new path. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 1 Aug 1995, Rodney Mach wrote: > Date: 1 Aug 1995 18:48:44 GMT > From: Rodney Mach > Newgroups: comp.mail.mime > Subject: .mailcap and Pine > > I have noticed using pine 3.91 that pine uses a .mailcap files > and use this information to spawn external viewers etc instead > My question is is pine interpreting this file, or is it using > metamail to handle the MIME viewing. Also, how can I tell pine > to use a different file, or perhaps specify a different location of > the .mailcap file ? The man page that I have does not mention the word > .mailcap, and very briefly discusses MIME. I looked through the .pinerc > and did not see any options pertaining to this, besides setting up an > image viewer. My .mailcap that I use is : > > > # This is a simple example mailcap file. > # Lines starting with '#' are comments. > > # This maps all types of audio data (audio/basic, audio/x-aiff, > # etc.) to the viewer 'showaudio'. Note that '%s' means 'put the > # datafile name here when the viewer is executed'. > audio/*; /usr/demo/SOUND/soundtool %s > > # This maps all types of images (image/gif, image/jpeg, etc.) > # to the viewer 'xv'. > # image/*; /usr/caen/bin/xv %s > > # This maps MPEG video data to the viewer 'mpeg_play'. > video/mpeg; mpeg_play %s > > # This maps all types of video *other than MPEG* to the viewer > # 'genericmovie'. > video/*; xanim %s > > application/postscript; ghostview %s > application/x-dvi; xdvi %s > > application/x-Wingz; %lWingz %f > > > Also, if you are able to answer my questions, could you please include > where you found the information. Please send any responses to: > rmach@engin.umich.edu > > Thanks, > > Rod Mach > rmach@engin.umich.edu > http://www.engin.umich.edu > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 15:10:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14729; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:10:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02903; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:07:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02893; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:07:47 -0700 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA19061; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 15:07:41 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 15:07:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE 3.91 & MIME [?] In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > > > > [ Part 1: "Included Message" ] > > > > 3yfbWJKvwA9PkQlBfsd/wfcF+b4WopJ9jvou2bf/T/NVsm+Q64ulvu+MT/KfkH2V5Hdxku9l > > (etcetera to message 6x). > > > > >>>---------------------------------------------------------<<< > > > > I was wondering if this is 'normal', an extension added to > > UltiMail, or if Pine simply does not support multipart messages. Your ULTIMAIL correspondant can set the size of message to a LARGE number like 10 Mb, and then it won't get split. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/---------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 15:33:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15670; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:33:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24920; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:30:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24914; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:30:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdPnd-00038BC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: suresh@cs.Stanford.EDU (Suresh Venkatasubramanian) Subject: Re: How do I move the cursor word by word (not by characters)? Date: 1 Aug 1995 18:10:28 GMT Message-Id: <3vlqmk$puo@Radon.Stanford.EDU> References: <3vkgj0$sqh@cutter.clas.ufl.edu> Status: RO X-Status: Vinod Vijay Tandon (tetsuo@grove.ufl.edu) wrote: : I was just wondering, How can i move my cursor word by word when : composing a mail message? I think the editor that pine uses is pico im : not sure ( It resembles it a whole lot) : Im tired of looking like a fool try to get from part of a sentece : to the next, tapping that button like a madman. : Incedently in case anyone else wants to know.. : to get to the end of the sentence tpye : ctrl-e : to get to the beggining of the sentence type : ctrl-a : much like most editors : thanks : vinny You can use Ctrl-SPACE to move forward a word. I don't know how to go backwards though. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 15:33:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15697; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:33:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03393; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:30:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03387; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:30:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdPnj-00038CC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmach@srvr1.engin.umich.edu (Rodney Mach) Subject: .mailcap and Pine Date: 1 Aug 1995 18:51:05 GMT Message-Id: <3vlt2p$9vc@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Status: O X-Status: have noticed using pine 3.91 that pine uses a .mailcap files and use this information to spawn external viewers etc instead My question is is pine interpreting this file, or is it using metamail to handle the MIME viewing. Also, how can I tell pine to use a different file, or perhaps specify a different location of the .mailcap file ? The man page that I have does not mention the word .mailcap, and very briefly discusses MIME. I looked through the .pinerc and did not see any options pertaining to this, besides setting up an image viewer. My .mailcap that I use is : # This is a simple example mailcap file. # Lines starting with '#' are comments. # This maps all types of audio data (audio/basic, audio/x-aiff, # etc.) to the viewer 'showaudio'. Note that '%s' means 'put the # datafile name here when the viewer is executed'. audio/*; /usr/demo/SOUND/soundtool %s # This maps all types of images (image/gif, image/jpeg, etc.) # to the viewer 'xv'. # image/*; /usr/caen/bin/xv %s # This maps MPEG video data to the viewer 'mpeg_play'. video/mpeg; mpeg_play %s # This maps all types of video *other than MPEG* to the viewer # 'genericmovie'. video/*; xanim %s application/postscript; ghostview %s application/x-dvi; xdvi %s application/x-Wingz; %lWingz %f Also, if you are able to answer my questions, could you please include where you found the information. Please send any responses to: rmach@engin.umich.edu Thanks, Rod Mach rmach@engin.umich.edu http://www.engin.umich.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 15:35:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15781; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:35:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24928; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:30:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24922; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:30:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdPnm-00038EC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sammie5555@aol.com Date: 1 Aug 1995 22:09:54 GMT Message-Id: Subject: cmsg cancel <950801172238_128061471@aol.com> Control: cancel <950801172238_128061471@aol.com> Status: O X-Status: Spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 17:05:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19517; Tue, 1 Aug 95 17:05:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05393; Tue, 1 Aug 95 17:00:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05387; Tue, 1 Aug 95 17:00:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdRD9-00038CC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 16:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gweisz@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Gideon Weisz) Subject: Re: how use external filter? Date: 1 Aug 1995 17:42:30 -0600 Message-Id: <3vme56$i7p@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: <3vfvrg$j9c@nyx10.cs.du.edu> <3vhllf$i18@netnews.upenn.edu> <3vl7ef$h67@nyx10.cs.du.edu> Status: O X-Status: this is a followup to the question about how to use an external filter in PINE. it has been suggested that using a pipe symbol could handle incoming messages. however, i have tried this with three different internet service providers that i use, with these results: Provider A: PINE 3.91 -- both in the index to Inbox, and when looking at the message text itself, i get the same result when i type in the pipe: i get Command "|" not defined for this screen ... Provider B: PINE 3.89 -- exactly the same as with provider A Provider C: PINE 3.07 -- again i get a refusal, but the message is Piping message into UNIX command not implemented yet So, i submit, there is more to this story than meets the eye when one just looks at the manpage. does anyone know what might be going on? thanks, gideon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 17:33:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20619; Tue, 1 Aug 95 17:33:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27229; Tue, 1 Aug 95 17:20:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27223; Tue, 1 Aug 95 17:20:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdRUg-00038BC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 17:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lisa frost Subject: DELETING OR CONTROL CANCEL WITH PINE? Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 17:09:06 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: How can I send out a control cancel, or delete on a message posted to a newsgroup with PINE? I have tried though TIN, but it is incompatible when initially posted through PINE. () () () () () () () () The quality of mercy is not stained, It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven Upon the place beneath: It is twice blessed; 'Tis mightiest in the mighties; it becomes The throned monarch better than his crown... It is an attribute to God himself, and earthly power doth then show liketh God's When mercy seasons justice. - WS - From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 18:42:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22281; Tue, 1 Aug 95 18:42:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28341; Tue, 1 Aug 95 18:39:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pandora.senecac.on.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28335; Tue, 1 Aug 95 18:39:30 -0700 Received: by pandora.senecac.on.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA19069; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 21:37:23 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 21:37:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Kevin Hanit To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: help Kevin Hanit From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 19:43:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23292; Tue, 1 Aug 95 19:43:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07895; Tue, 1 Aug 95 19:30:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07889; Tue, 1 Aug 95 19:30:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdTVS-00038BC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 19:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rfonger@times.net Subject: DOS 4.xx communications? Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 19:26:18 GMT Message-Id: Status: RO X-Status: We have a staffer with an old 286 640k at home who wants to be able to get his pine mail from our Unix box at work. Does anyone know of shareware or freeware he can use for communications? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 00:36:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28670; Wed, 2 Aug 95 00:36:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02203; Wed, 2 Aug 95 00:31:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02197; Wed, 2 Aug 95 00:31:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdYCW-00038BC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 00:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jpyne@midland.co.nz (Jonathan Pyne) Subject: Stop users from changing config Date: 2 Aug 1995 02:42:40 GMT Message-Id: <3vmon0$n6s@news.midland.co.nz> Status: O X-Status: Does anyone know how to configure Pine so that the Setup option is disabled so users cant go fiddling with all the settings. I know that you have a pine.conf.fixed file in /usr/local/lib to set defaults that cant be overridden, but it would be nice to disable this setup option altogether. Some of our computer users are kind of prone to mucking around. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Jonathan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 01:05:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29510; Wed, 2 Aug 95 01:05:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12269; Wed, 2 Aug 95 01:01:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12263; Wed, 2 Aug 95 01:01:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdYi7-00038BC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 00:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jpyne@midland.co.nz (Jonathan Pyne) Subject: Re: PINE and POP3 question Date: 2 Aug 1995 02:49:06 GMT Message-Id: <3vmp33$n6s@news.midland.co.nz> References: <3vcts7$6dg@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Status: O X-Status: Marcus Kraemer (kraemer@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE) wrote: > Hi! > I am using Eudora for Windows 1.4.4 at home and PINE 3.91 on my mainframe > account. When being at home I read my mail on the mainframe account using the > POP3 protocol. How do I configure PINE that mail, read using Eudora is no > longer listed as new? What I do not want is to delete the mail on the server > (i.e. mainframe account). > Thanks for your help, > Marcus I have the same kind of setup here at work. I know there is an option under the special/switches menu called "Leave mail on sever" - this should stop Eudora from deleting the mail as it retrieves it. later Jonathan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 01:57:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00804; Wed, 2 Aug 95 01:57:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03247; Wed, 2 Aug 95 01:53:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03235; Wed, 2 Aug 95 01:52:40 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA14243; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:47:42 +0200 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 10:47:42 +0200 (METDST) From: Vladimir Solnicky =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: Gideon Weisz Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: how use external filter? In-Reply-To: <3vme56$i7p@nyx10.cs.du.edu> Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Acknowledge-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: On 1 Aug 1995, Gideon Weisz wrote: > this is a followup to the question about how to use an external filter > in PINE. it has been suggested that using a pipe symbol could > handle incoming messages. however, > Provider A: PINE 3.91 -- both in the index to Inbox, and when > looking at the message text itself, i get the same result > when i type in the pipe: i get > Command "|" not defined for this screen ... > > So, i submit, there is more to this story than meets the eye > when one just looks at the manpage. does anyone know what might > be going on? In pine 3.91 (provider A) go to the main menu, then to the Set up screen, then to the Config screen, find the line with the text `enable-unix-pipe-cmd' and set it on (using the key X). If this is not possible, then your provider disabled it and ask him to allow this command for you. In every case, having enabled it you can use the pipe command. Hope this helps, V. S. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz ftp.utia.cas.cz http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-{en|cz|ce}.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 03:23:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02464; Wed, 2 Aug 95 03:23:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04109; Wed, 2 Aug 95 03:21:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04103; Wed, 2 Aug 95 03:21:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdau4-00038EC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 03:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dannyc@leeds.ac.uk (Danny Cox) Subject: connecting to imap daemons not using Pine Message-Id: <1995Aug2.093922.29392@leeds.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 10:39:22 +0100 (BST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Dear all, this is probably not the right place (sorry) so I'll make it brief. We run cc:Mail here and would like to be able to continue to do so. Can anyone tell me how to persuade (if we can) cc:Mail to access an imap daemon ? Or at least point me in the right direction. Thanks, Danny From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 03:46:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02925; Wed, 2 Aug 95 03:46:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14450; Wed, 2 Aug 95 03:41:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from popb-f.gsfc.nasa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14444; Wed, 2 Aug 95 03:41:37 -0700 Received: from pplourd.fdd.gsfc.nasa (fdf-int-sser.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.132.16]) by popb.gsfc.nasa.gov (8.6.10/8.6.12) with SMTP id GAA25526; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 06:41:31 -0400 Message-Id: <199508021041.GAA25526@popb.gsfc.nasa.gov> X-Sender: pplourd@internet.fdd.gsfc.nasa X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 02 Aug 1995 06:41:29 -0400 To: dannyc@leeds.ac.uk (Danny Cox), pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Plourd Subject: Re: connecting to imap daemons not using Pine Status: O X-Status: We are in the process of transitioning from cc:mail to POP and imap. Other than using the Link to SMTP from cc:Mail I do not think cc:Mail can use either the POP or Imap protocols directly. What we have done for our transition is set up a SMTP gateway into the POP server so that users can mail cc:Mail messages and POP messages easily. But it still does not let cc:Mail directly use either POP or imap. At 10:39 AM 8/2/95 +0100, Danny Cox wrote: >Dear all, > this is probably not the right place (sorry) so I'll make it brief. We run >cc:Mail here and would like to be able to continue to do so. Can anyone tell >me how to persuade (if we can) cc:Mail to access an imap daemon ? Or at least >point me in the right direction. > >Thanks, >Danny > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Peter Plourd/RMS Technologies, Inc. peter.plourd@gsfc.nasa.gov NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Code 551 301-286-3316 Work Greenbelt, MD 20771 301-344-8700 FAX 301-454-6037 Beeper From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 04:46:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04702; Wed, 2 Aug 95 04:46:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15379; Wed, 2 Aug 95 04:41:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15373; Wed, 2 Aug 95 04:41:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdc7M-00038BC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 04:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: steevess@saturn.net (Scott Steeves) Subject: Getting mail using SMTP Date: 2 Aug 1995 11:25:34 GMT Message-Id: <3vnnbe$hcb@titan.saturn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O X-Status: I have Linux set up on my machine and I connect to my ISP using a SLIP connection. I have attempted to configure pine to get my mail from my ISP using SMTP. However, whenever I attempt to get my mail, I get a message stating that the connection was refused. I have no problems sending mail out using SMTP, but I'm not allowed to check my mailbox. This initially appears to be a problem with the username and password, but I've tried a few things around this. My username and password on the Linux machine are the same as on my provider, but that doesn't help. If anyone has any ideas or suggestions, I'd appreciate them. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 06:13:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07048; Wed, 2 Aug 95 06:13:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06108; Wed, 2 Aug 95 06:07:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from popb-f.gsfc.nasa.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06102; Wed, 2 Aug 95 06:07:56 -0700 Received: from pplourd.fdd.gsfc.nasa (fdf-int-sser.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.132.16]) by popb.gsfc.nasa.gov (8.6.10/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA28897; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:06:24 -0400 Message-Id: <199508021306.JAA28897@popb.gsfc.nasa.gov> X-Sender: pplourd@internet.fdd.gsfc.nasa X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 02 Aug 1995 09:07:00 -0400 To: steevess@saturn.net (Scott Steeves), pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Plourd Subject: Re: Getting mail using SMTP Status: O X-Status: We use Pine to connect to a remote server that runs the IMAP daemon. This works by putting the address of the remote server in the inbox field. I can send you a sample config if you want. At 11:25 AM 8/2/95 GMT, Scott Steeves wrote: > I have Linux set up on my machine and I connect to my ISP using a SLIP >connection. I have attempted to configure pine to get my mail from my >ISP using SMTP. However, whenever I attempt to get my mail, I get a >message stating that the connection was refused. I have no problems >sending mail out using SMTP, but I'm not allowed to check my mailbox. > This initially appears to be a problem with the username and password, >but I've tried a few things around this. My username and password on the >Linux machine are the same as on my provider, but that doesn't help. > > If anyone has any ideas or suggestions, I'd appreciate them. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Peter Plourd/RMS Technologies, Inc. peter.plourd@gsfc.nasa.gov NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Code 551 301-286-3316 Work Greenbelt, MD 20771 301-344-8700 FAX 301-454-6037 Beeper From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 06:37:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07601; Wed, 2 Aug 95 06:37:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06389; Wed, 2 Aug 95 06:33:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dmog10.bell.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06383; Wed, 2 Aug 95 06:33:22 -0700 Received: from dmoc61.on.bell.ca by dmog10.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA03557; Wed, 2 Aug 95 09:32:50 -0400 Received: from huhc06.ON.Bell.Ca by dmoc61.on.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA15784; Wed, 2 Aug 95 09:32:42 -0400 Received: by huhc06 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22736; Wed, 2 Aug 95 09:32:41 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:32:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Violette" Reply-To: jviolett@on.bell.ca To: Pine Info Subject: Pine icon for xterm Message-Id: Organization: Bell Canada Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This doesn't really belong here but ... I want to specify an icon for Pine running in an Xterm on HP-UX but can't find a command line option or Xresource to set for this. hpterm has a command line option but doesn't run pine very well (highlighting is broken). Also does anybody have a neat Pine icon bitmap? -- | John R. Violette | Software Development | | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 07:54:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10287; Wed, 2 Aug 95 07:54:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07570; Wed, 2 Aug 95 07:51:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from AZTEC.LIB.UTK.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07564; Wed, 2 Aug 95 07:51:12 -0700 Received: by aztec.lib.utk.edu (5.x/2.8s-UTK) id AA29971; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 10:50:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 10:50:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Patrick To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: extended characters in pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: We have someone here who wants to enter special foreign language=20 characters into email messages. I've search Sun's answerbook high and low,= =20 and I can't figure out how someone using a Windows telnet client to=20 access their UNIX account can use their PC keyboard to enter, for=20 example, one of these: =E0 =F1 Sure, I can do it on this here Sun keyboard, but how about a telnet=20 session from Windows? Thanks, -bob ~~~ bobpatrick@utk.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 09:44:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16091; Wed, 2 Aug 95 09:44:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20741; Wed, 2 Aug 95 09:36:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from actcom.co.il by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20699; Wed, 2 Aug 95 09:35:23 -0700 Received: from galtronics.UUCP by actcom.co.il with UUCPgaltronics (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id MAA28846; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 12:46:18 +0300 (rfc931-sender: uucp@localhost) Received: by aviion.galtronics.co.il (5.4R2.10/ACTCOM-GALTRONICS-S-1.0) id AA25410; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 12:16:49 GMT Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 12:16:49 +0000 (GMT) From: Aladdin Khamis Subject: gcc debugger? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Apparently-To: IMAP@cac.washington.edu Apparently-To: c-client@cac.washington.edu Apparently-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Where can I get the best updated gcc debugger? Thanks Al From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 10:10:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17144; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:10:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21301; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:03:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21295; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:03:06 -0700 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0sdhE0-000sEpC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 19:04 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Wed, 2 Aug 95 19:02 MESZ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 19:02:51 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Joswig X-Sender: michaelj@paddington Reply-To: michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE To: "John R. Violette" Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: Pine icon for xterm In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There are two icons in the Pine distribution (at least in my one ;-) BTW I'm using a shelltool on my Sun with one of these icons. Isn't there an equivalent on HP? Ciao, Michael Joswig On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, John R. Violette wrote: > This doesn't really belong here but ... > I want to specify an icon for Pine running in an Xterm on HP-UX but > can't find a command line option or Xresource to set for this. hpterm has > a command line option but doesn't run pine very well (highlighting is > broken). Also does anybody have a neat Pine icon bitmap? > -- > | John R. Violette | Software Development | > | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | > | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | > > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE Tel. (040) 651 56 25 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 10:39:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18104; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:39:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11184; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:34:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11178; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:34:25 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28172; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:34:13 -0700 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "John R. Violette" Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: Pine icon for xterm In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-2070695894-807384840=:24987" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-2070695894-807384840=:24987 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have the following in my .Xdefaults: Mwm*Pine*iconImage: /usr/users/dlm/.xbm/pine.xbm I took this from a previous Pine-Info posting, but I don't remember who it was from... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, John R. Violette wrote: > Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:32:41 -0400 (EDT) > From: John R. Violette > To: Pine Info > Subject: Pine icon for xterm > > This doesn't really belong here but ... > I want to specify an icon for Pine running in an Xterm on HP-UX but > can't find a command line option or Xresource to set for this. hpterm has > a command line option but doesn't run pine very well (highlighting is > broken). Also does anybody have a neat Pine icon bitmap? > -- > | John R. Violette | Software Development | > | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | > | Ontario Ops. 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Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:54:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11530; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:46:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11524; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:46:09 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28594; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:46:04 -0700 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 10:45:03 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jonathan Pyne Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Stop users from changing config In-Reply-To: <3vmon0$n6s@news.midland.co.nz> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You can add "disable-config-cmd" to the feature-list in pine.conf.fixed to turn off the Setup/Config screen for all users.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 2 Aug 1995, Jonathan Pyne wrote: > Date: 2 Aug 1995 02:42:40 GMT > From: Jonathan Pyne > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Stop users from changing config > > Does anyone know how to configure Pine so that the Setup > option is disabled so users cant go fiddling with all the > settings. I know that you have a pine.conf.fixed file in > /usr/local/lib to set defaults that cant be overridden, but > it would be nice to disable this setup option altogether. > Some of our computer users are kind of prone to mucking > around. > Any help would be appreciated. > Thanks > Jonathan > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 11:13:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19409; Wed, 2 Aug 95 11:13:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11900; Wed, 2 Aug 95 11:06:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dmog10.bell.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11894; Wed, 2 Aug 95 11:05:58 -0700 Received: from dmoc61.on.bell.ca by dmog10.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA09076; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:05:44 -0400 Received: from huhc06.ON.Bell.Ca by dmoc61.on.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA19584; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:05:37 -0400 Received: by huhc06 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23942; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:05:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 14:05:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Violette" Reply-To: jviolett@on.bell.ca To: Pine Info Subject: pine.conf.fixed location Message-Id: Organization: Bell Canada Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can one change the default location of pine.conf.fixed in the same way as pine.conf with a command line option of -P? I can't seem to make it look anywhere but /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed. The -P works fine for changing /usr/local/lib/pine.conf but it will still look for pine.conf.fixed in /usr/local/lib even though pine.conf has been changed with the -P option. Version 3.91 HP-UX 9.01. -- | John R. Violette | Software Development | | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 11:42:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20494; Wed, 2 Aug 95 11:42:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23699; Wed, 2 Aug 95 11:40:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23693; Wed, 2 Aug 95 11:39:58 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00660; Wed, 2 Aug 95 11:39:26 -0700 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:39:21 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "John R. Violette" Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: pine.conf.fixed location In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII No, the location of pine.conf.fixed is not changeable from the command line, since that would defeat the purpose of it! ;) |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, John R. Violette wrote: > Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 14:05:35 -0400 (EDT) > From: John R. Violette > To: Pine Info > Subject: pine.conf.fixed location > > Can one change the default location of pine.conf.fixed in the same way as > pine.conf with a command line option of -P? I can't seem to make it look > anywhere but /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed. The -P works fine for > changing /usr/local/lib/pine.conf but it will still look for > pine.conf.fixed in /usr/local/lib even though pine.conf has been changed > with the -P option. Version 3.91 HP-UX 9.01. > -- > | John R. Violette | Software Development | > | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | > | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 12:29:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22057; Wed, 2 Aug 95 12:29:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24574; Wed, 2 Aug 95 12:25:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24568; Wed, 2 Aug 95 12:25:08 -0700 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id NAA24284 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 13:24:54 -0600 Received: from gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (maldridg@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.12]) by gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA97956 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 13:24:54 -0600 Received: by gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9) id NAA83135; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 13:24:52 -0600 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 13:24:52 -0600 (MDT) From: Lea Andrellan X-Sender: maldridg@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: DOS 4.xx communications? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 31 Jul 1995 rfonger@times.net wrote: > We have a staffer with an old 286 640k at home who > wants to be able to get his pine mail from our > Unix box at work. Does anyone know of shareware or > freeware he can use for communications? I don't know offhand if any of the following are shareware or freeware, so please don't quote me on that part, but...I'm assuming a 2400 baud modem with the above setup, since I don't think he'll be able to connect at any higher a speed. A vt100 communications software package like MS-Kermit, QuickLink, ProComm, or ComIT should work just fine for him. I was on the same setup, with a 2400 baud modem, for three years, connecting to our Unix server here using MSKermit. If he tries this arrangement or something similar, and is having problems, feel free to e-mail me off-list and I'll see if I can troubleshoot for you... Lea ---------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; CWIS WWW/gopher admin; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) . (D)inner not ready: (A)bort (R)etry (P)izza ---------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 14:12:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26309; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:12:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27058; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:08:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27052; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:08:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdkwh-00038BC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aors@engsoc.carleton.ca (Prince Ali) Subject: help on simultaneous mailing and posting Message-Id: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 19:50:49 GMT I can't seem to post messages that I want posted on some newsgroups at the same time Could anybody tell me the way I should configure the address of the newsgroup so that it does reach the destination and doesn't end up in my mailbox again. Thanks in advance, -- ___________________________________________________________________________ You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. (Bart Simpson) ___________________________________________________________________________ Ali O. Ors aors@chat.carleton.ca Electrical Engineering aors@engsoc.carleton.ca Carleton Uni. cb260@freenet.carleton.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 14:31:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26985; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:31:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16217; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:28:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16205; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:28:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdlKN-00038CC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gweisz@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Gideon Weisz) Subject: Re: how use external filter? Date: 2 Aug 1995 15:00:39 -0600 Message-Id: <3vop1n$62e@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: <3vfvrg$j9c@nyx10.cs.du.edu> <3vhllf$i18@netnews.upenn.edu> <3vl7ef$h67@nyx10.cs.du.edu> <3vme56$i7p@nyx10.cs.du.edu> thanks to a czech angel, whose name i do not have handy at the moment, i've found out that the way to get piping, at least in recent PINE, is either to go to Setup in main menu, and then to config, or, if that doesn't give you the appropriate options, then there is a place (there was in my case) in .pinerc to ask for it. thanks to everyone who tried to assist with this! gideon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 14:39:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27219; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:39:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27668; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:38:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27662; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:38:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdlTL-00038EC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dwg5400@u.washington.edu (Dale Gombert) Subject: Is there a stand-alone MIME decoder available? Date: 2 Aug 1995 17:45:41 GMT Message-Id: <3vodk5$og6@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Many of our users find pine to be a fine product, but many more people in the world don't use it. So we have problems with binary attachments not being decodable by recipients. Can we send them a stand-alone MIME decoder, or how do we tell pine to use uuencoding instead of MIME? -- Dale Gombert, dwg5400@saul.u.washington.edu | No good deed goes unpunished. All expressed opinions are my own. | Is this sig short enough? Finger me to see a few days' space history and upcoming celestial events. ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 14:51:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27649; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:51:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16579; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:48:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16573; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:48:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdlaK-00038HC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: DOS 4.xx communications? Date: 2 Aug 1995 21:27:32 GMT Message-Id: <3voqk4$o6@grape.epix.net> References: Lea Andrellan (Marianne.Aldridge@UAlberta.CA) wrote: : On Mon, 31 Jul 1995 rfonger@times.net wrote: : > We have a staffer with an old 286 640k at home who : > wants to be able to get his pine mail from our : > Unix box at work. Does anyone know of shareware or : > freeware he can use for communications? : I don't know offhand if any of the following are shareware or freeware, : so please don't quote me on that part, but...I'm assuming a 2400 baud : modem with the above setup, since I don't think he'll be able to connect : at any higher a speed. A vt100 communications software package like : MS-Kermit, QuickLink, ProComm, or ComIT should work just fine for him. I : was on the same setup, with a 2400 baud modem, for three years, : connecting to our Unix server here using MSKermit. If he tries this : arrangement or something similar, and is having problems, feel free to : e-mail me off-list and I'll see if I can troubleshoot for you... : Lea I also have a 286 with a 2400 modem and it works just fine (but of course ssllloooooowww) using Windows Terminal v3.0 as the communication software. You have to run through the (S)ettings menu first. Hope this helps. E-mail me or followup post if any problems getting it working. ... PS this post is NOT made with that, I only use the antique computer when the kid has this one tied up. G'Day. /\ /~~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\/\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\| Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH /_/__\/_/___/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|__ Hope this gets thru, we're having one hell of a thunderstorm right now. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 15:40:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00107; Wed, 2 Aug 95 15:40:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29000; Wed, 2 Aug 95 15:38:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28994; Wed, 2 Aug 95 15:38:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdmMr-00038BC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 15:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rschirme@spd.dsccc.com (Joe Schirmer) Subject: Re: Pine icon for xterm Date: 2 Aug 1995 18:45:00 GMT Message-Id: <3voh3c$li5@sun001.spd.dsccc.com> References: If your HP-UX is using Vue, try editing your X resources: Vuewm*pine*iconImage: filename.bmp That way when you start up pine as follows: xterm -e pine & It should pick up the resource name of pine and use the above resource. In article , John R. Violette wrote: >This doesn't really belong here but ... >I want to specify an icon for Pine running in an Xterm on HP-UX but >can't find a command line option or Xresource to set for this. hpterm has >a command line option but doesn't run pine very well (highlighting is >broken). Also does anybody have a neat Pine icon bitmap? -- Joe Schirmer Internet: rschirme@spd.dsccc.com Software Development Engineer DSC Communications Corporation **** Standard disclaimer (RE: 03-09-03 section II paragraph 3) **** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 16:37:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02835; Wed, 2 Aug 95 16:37:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18955; Wed, 2 Aug 95 16:33:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18949; Wed, 2 Aug 95 16:33:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdnFJ-00038CC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 16:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bonnie Subject: Adding Symbols Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 19:08:40 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII HI.. I'm wondering if there is a way to add symbols in the text when composing in Pine. (ie: Copyright a circle with a "c" in it.) Thanks. Bonnie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bonnie Crandall author of PANIC BUSTER, Learn to Conquer Panic Attacks and Agoraphobia. A self-help manual/workbook. Apply your faith to the problem of fear. For information email bcrand@epix.net. The American Express Card is always welcome. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 17:18:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04697; Wed, 2 Aug 95 17:18:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20072; Wed, 2 Aug 95 17:16:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rocoto.aug.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20066; Wed, 2 Aug 95 17:16:20 -0700 Received: (from plardner@localhost) by rocoto.aug.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id UAA10115; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 20:16:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 20:16:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Lardner X-Sender: plardner@rocoto To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: ASCII Characters in Pico Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Any thoughts on why I am not able to display all of the ASCII charaters=20 in Pico? With alt-160 I can display =A0, but when I want an e with the=20 same accent (alt-130) Pico responds "unknown command". Any assistance=20 will be appreciated. Peter From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 19:05:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06779; Wed, 2 Aug 95 19:05:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21404; Wed, 2 Aug 95 19:03:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21398; Wed, 2 Aug 95 19:03:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdpcD-00038EC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 19:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mmcnama@ibm.net Subject: Re: Pine for AIX Date: 3 Aug 1995 00:29:50 GMT Message-Id: <3vp59u$civ@news-s01.ca.us.ibm.net> References: <3vb28r$6f2@manaslu.mos.com.np> In <3vb28r$6f2@manaslu.mos.com.np>, sanjib@chulu.mos.com.np (sanjib ) writes: >Hello, > >Would me most obliged if someone there could please tell me where >I can find Pine for AIX (3.2.x or 4.1.x). > aixpdslib.seas.ucla.edu is an excellent AIX ftp site... in /pub/pine/RISC/.... -Michael From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 19:06:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06823; Wed, 2 Aug 95 19:06:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03353; Wed, 2 Aug 95 19:03:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03347; Wed, 2 Aug 95 19:03:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdpcB-00038BC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 19:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mmcnama@ibm.net Subject: Re: Help: connect to imapd is slow Date: 3 Aug 1995 00:25:50 GMT Message-Id: <3vp52e$civ@news-s01.ca.us.ibm.net> References: In , jviolett@on.bell.ca ("John R. Violette") writes: >When I set my inbox to be on a remote IMAP server, it takes >about 30 seconds to get prompted for my password. This seemed kind >of long so I tried it with mtest which is the c-client test >program. It still took 30 seconds. Then I tried a telnet to port >143 and that is immediate. Is this delay normal when you first >start up pine. > >I have pine 3.91 on HP-UX 9.01 series 715. The imapd is running >on hpux 9.01 also on a 730. Any help would be appreciated as I >could not find the answer in the FAQ or anywhere else. I have experienced the same 30+ second delay running PINE on IBM RS/6000 Workstation.. I've built the executable over and over trying to tune and optimizing it... Interesting enough, these workstation are all NFS mounting their home and applications directories for a single superserver, if I perform a POP or IMAP to a standalone system, it only takes 5 seconds... go figure... Workstation are all running AIX v3.2.5 and standalone is running the latest and greatest AIX v4.1 -Michael From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 21:06:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08998; Wed, 2 Aug 95 21:06:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05026; Wed, 2 Aug 95 21:04:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05020; Wed, 2 Aug 95 21:04:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdrTk-00038BC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 21:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wilcoxb@cs.colorado.edu (Bryce Wilcox) Subject: Can I get input to the process which is on the end of the pipe? Date: 3 Aug 1995 01:34:22 GMT Message-Id: <3vp92u$mea@lace.Colorado.EDU> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I have written a script which I want to pipe my mail to. Unfortunately when this script wants to read from stdin, Pine won't let it! Is there anyway I can convince Pine to let my script have stdin unfiltered for a little while? Thanks! Bryce -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Auto-signing with Bryce's Auto-PGP v1.0 beta iQCVAwUBMCAnd/WZSllhfG25AQGVrgP/csK+RRHafbOneocUEoo3J/v3iuxEiuOn /y0TCRLA2+dtYm0Y7EFY7dLo8Fas1Iq+MswcGa5GOmhgP4FW7zcrwmZ+Ecr2ex4O zVB6Odrx2m6LaieqjhLRHHzz6yzfwx7ZdVcPpWrAgz9/ySyG0wf92CCUfwpR5A3g Duxl4NwBlcA= =Nt9U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 23:41:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11957; Wed, 2 Aug 95 23:41:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24812; Wed, 2 Aug 95 23:39:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24806; Wed, 2 Aug 95 23:39:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdtrK-00038RC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 23:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu (Dean Pentcheff) Subject: Re: Sorting Mail using Procmail Date: 3 Aug 1995 02:14:33 -0400 Message-Id: <3vppg9$3d1@tbone.biol.sc.edu> References: <3vjp02$e04@vcc7.vcc.bc.ca> rross@lang1.langara.bc.ca (Ron Ross) writes: >Nischal Sheth (nsheth@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu) wrote: [deleted] >: Even though I created the folder IN.testing in the "Incoming Message Folders", >: any mail with "test" in the subject goes into a folder called IN.testing in >: the Folder-Collection (mail/[]). As a result I cannot step thru all new >: mail using the TAB key. Any ideas as to what I am doing wrong? > You need to create your incoming message folders in a different >directory than your folder collection. Try something like: [deleted] Actually, you can put your incoming mail folders wherever you wish. The trick is that you have to specify the inboxes using path names relative to your login directory. Here's a sample section from a .pinerc: # List of incoming msg folders besides INBOX, e.g. ={host2}inbox, {host3}inbox # Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-host-name}folder-path incoming-folders="netinstruct" mail/IN.netinstruct, "crust-l" mail/IN.crust-l, "mar-facil-l" mail/IN.mar-facil-l -Dean -- N. Dean Pentcheff Biological Sciences, Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29208 (803-777-3936) Internet addresses: pentcheff@acm.org or dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu WWW link: home page From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 02:43:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15346; Thu, 3 Aug 95 02:43:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09776; Thu, 3 Aug 95 02:40:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09770; Thu, 3 Aug 95 02:40:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdwgv-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 02:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aors@engsoc.carleton.ca (Prince Ali) Control: cancel Subject: cancel Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 06:51:20 GMT Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 02:45:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15388; Thu, 3 Aug 95 02:45:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26915; Thu, 3 Aug 95 02:41:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26909; Thu, 3 Aug 95 02:40:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdwh9-00038CC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 02:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aors@engsoc.carleton.ca (Prince Ali) Control: cancel Subject: cancel Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 06:53:31 GMT Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 05:20:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19157; Thu, 3 Aug 95 05:20:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12064; Thu, 3 Aug 95 05:15:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12058; Thu, 3 Aug 95 05:15:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdz7X-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 05:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Thomas A. Bond" Subject: Re: Pine icon for xterm Date: 3 Aug 1995 12:05:48 GMT Message-Id: <3vqe2s$r7t@murphy.servtech.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I'm looking for a pine icon fox X. Can someone mail me one. Thanks! Tom Bond +=============================================================+ || || || What the world needs today ! || || || || // || || // // ///// // // // // || || // // // // // // /// || || ///// // // // ///// // // || || || || The choice of a smarter generation ! || || || +=============================================================+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 06:26:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20145; Thu, 3 Aug 95 06:26:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29564; Thu, 3 Aug 95 06:19:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29552; Thu, 3 Aug 95 06:19:31 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id JAA22550 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 09:19:30 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA32738 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 09:19:28 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA05761; Thu, 3 Aug 95 09:18:07 EDT Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 09:18:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: 3.92 questions Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My apologies of I missed this in dicussions about 3.92 functionality, but will Pine fix/enhance the operation of ^C/N options for sending and printing? Specifically, when printing (Y) option ^C would cancel and N would prompt for a different destination/printer command. For sending, ^C would offer cancel *message* (with confirm), while N would simply cancel the send. Right now it seems that the duplicate functionality of ^C and N in these (and other?) operations could be eliminated and operation enhanced if changed. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 08:15:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22587; Thu, 3 Aug 95 08:15:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01250; Thu, 3 Aug 95 08:10:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01244; Thu, 3 Aug 95 08:10:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0se1rL-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 08:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David McChristie <76042.2664@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Compiling PINE on SVR4 Date: 3 Aug 1995 14:21:25 GMT Message-Id: <3vqm15$9i4$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> I am having a problem compiling PINE on a Uniys SVR4 system. IMAP and PICO compile fine. PICO runs great. As soon as PINE starts to comile I get an error from make. The error is as follows: *** Error 1 (bu21) The compiling stops there. If i try to compile some of the files manually no object files are created. If anyone has any ideas I would be grateful. Thanks DaveM. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 08:59:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24405; Thu, 3 Aug 95 08:59:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15411; Thu, 3 Aug 95 08:45:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15405; Thu, 3 Aug 95 08:45:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0se2Oq-00038CC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 08:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ronald Wahl Subject: Re: DELETING OR CONTROL CANCEL WITH PINE? Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 14:02:05 +0200 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 1 Aug 1995, lisa frost wrote: > How can I send out a control cancel, or delete > on a message posted to a newsgroup with > PINE? Subject : cmsg cancel Ron. +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Ronald Wahl rwa@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de | | >> PGP key available by finger << http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~row | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | PGP fingerprint: 9D 4A 66 7C A9 9F 6A 5F 90 45 D5 0C DF E5 CB 71 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 09:00:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24470; Thu, 3 Aug 95 09:00:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15632; Thu, 3 Aug 95 08:55:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15626; Thu, 3 Aug 95 08:55:21 -0700 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id JAA27978 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 09:55:17 -0600 Received: from gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (smihelci@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.12]) by gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA34548 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 09:55:11 -0600 Received: by gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9) id JAA43854; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 09:55:15 -0600 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 09:55:15 -0600 (MDT) From: Sonja Mihelcic X-Sender: smihelci@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To Whom it May Concern: Sorry to bother you with this but I asked at the Help Desk and I would like to see if you have an alternative answer to this question. The problem is: whenever I send an e-mail message outside of Canada, the other party doesn't get it. For example, I sent about 8 messages to a friend in the U.K. and he only received one. I have no problems sending messages within Canada though. I know the addresses are correct because I don't get it rejected by the U of A after I send it. Hopefully you can give me a solution to this problem. Thankyou for your time. Sonja Mihelcic From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 10:08:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28507; Thu, 3 Aug 95 10:08:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03822; Thu, 3 Aug 95 10:03:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03815; Thu, 3 Aug 95 10:03:35 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08271; Thu, 3 Aug 95 10:03:26 -0700 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 10:03:22 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Bryce Wilcox Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Can I get input to the process which is on the end of the pipe? In-Reply-To: <3vp92u$mea@lace.Colorado.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This will be available in Pine 3.92... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 3 Aug 1995, Bryce Wilcox wrote: > Date: 3 Aug 1995 01:34:22 GMT > From: Bryce Wilcox > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Can I get input to the process which is on the end of the pipe? > > > I have written a script which I want to pipe my mail to. Unfortunately when > this script wants to read from stdin, Pine won't let it! Is there anyway > I can convince Pine to let my script have stdin unfiltered for a little > while? > > > Thanks! > > > Bryce > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 10:25:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29257; Thu, 3 Aug 95 10:25:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17936; Thu, 3 Aug 95 10:21:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17928; Thu, 3 Aug 95 10:21:33 -0700 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id LAA03502 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 11:21:25 -0600 Received: from gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca (maldridg@gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.10]) by gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA27263 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 11:21:21 -0600 Received: by gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9) id LAA79021; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 11:21:24 -0600 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 11:21:24 -0600 (MDT) From: Lea Andrellan X-Sender: maldridg@gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 3 Aug 1995, Sonja Mihelcic wrote: > Sorry to bother you with this but I asked at the Help Desk and I > would like to see if you have an alternative answer to this question. > The problem is: whenever I send an e-mail message outside of Canada, the > other party doesn't get it. For example, I sent about 8 messages to a > friend in the U.K. and he only received one. I have no problems sending > messages within Canada though. I know the addresses are correct > because I don't get it > rejected by the U of A after I send it. Hopefully you can give me a > solution to this problem. Thankyou for your time. Sonja, the problem appears to be at the receiving end (lsi-logic.co.uk). Currently, the site looks to be down. I've sent you e-mail under separate cover; please check your INBOX. Marianne ---------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; CWIS WWW/gopher admin; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) ---------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 12:15:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05056; Thu, 3 Aug 95 12:15:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06583; Thu, 3 Aug 95 12:11:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06577; Thu, 3 Aug 95 12:11:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0se5c1-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 12:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dennis Lai Subject: Some dreaming questions about PINE's future...... Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 11:58:06 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi!! Hi!!! Windows 95 is almost here and is there any plan that someone will port the PC-PINE to Win32 api??? or is it possible to write a gateway to MAPI so Win95's exchange client can retrieve IMAP mail directly into private exchange folder???? (Well, it's certainly Great for Bill) and does it hard to write a IMAP daemon for Window NT??? --  ----*<@  * I never believe that a truly pretty *  | flower can be bought from a store... |  * but one that I have "planted" myself. *  | And among them, the most beautiful one, |  * will be the one we "planted" together...... * 7.17.95 ^_^ Dennis Lai, Lovely Dachshund of U of W From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 14:30:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11115; Thu, 3 Aug 95 14:30:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09325; Thu, 3 Aug 95 14:26:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09319; Thu, 3 Aug 95 14:26:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0se7lt-00038CC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 14:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dwg5400@u.washington.edu (Dale Gombert) Subject: cmsg cancel <3vodk5$og6@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Control: cancel <3vodk5$og6@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Date: 3 Aug 1995 19:08:54 GMT Message-Id: <3vr6s6$3ht@nntp5.u.washington.edu> <3vodk5$og6@nntp5.u.washington.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- Dale Gombert, dwg5400@saul.u.washington.edu | No good deed goes unpunished. All expressed opinions are my own. | Is this sig short enough? Finger me to see a few days' space history and upcoming celestial events. ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 14:38:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11568; Thu, 3 Aug 95 14:38:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24444; Thu, 3 Aug 95 14:36:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24438; Thu, 3 Aug 95 14:36:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0se7uf-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 14:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: camanyag@sp10edc1.nswses.navy.mil (Jonathan R Camanyag) Subject: V3.91: default-fcc="", doesn't work properly? Date: 3 Aug 1995 19:30:41 GMT Message-Id: <3vr851$fum@suned1a.nswses.navy.mil> Has anybody experienced this same problem... that if you want to suppress fcc, then specify "" at the 'default-fcc' field and Pine (supposedly) won't write an fcc. It seems to me that Pine creates a "" folder and stil fcc's when it shouldn't. Jonathan -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- email: camanyag@nswses.navy.mil UUCP: suned1!camanyag@elroy.JPL.Nasa.Gov sun!suntzu!suned1!camanyag From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 15:04:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12637; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:04:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10079; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:01:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aldebaran.oac.uci.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10073; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:01:23 -0700 Received: by aldebaran.oac.uci.edu id AA08392 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine ); Thu, 3 Aug 1995 15:01:22 -0700 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 15:01:22 -0700 (PDT) From: John Nguyen To: pine Subject: Text File in Header Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a text file with a long list of email addresses. Is there any way to put this file at the To: section of the header? I tried to cut/paste the addresses from the text file into to To: section of the header, but the addresses overflowed into the Attchmnt: and Subject: sections of the header. I really don't want to retype all these addresses into my address book. /////////////////////////////////// /// John Nguyen /// /// eaeg337@ea.oac.uci.edu /// /// School of Engineering /// /////////////////////////////////// From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 15:26:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13723; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:26:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10608; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:21:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10602; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:21:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0se8cs-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Help: connect to imapd is slow Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 15:03:02 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3vp52e$civ@news-s01.ca.us.ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3vp52e$civ@news-s01.ca.us.ibm.net> Your server system is almost certainly set up so that the command: rsh imapserver /etc/rimapd (where "imapserver" is the name of your IMAP server) hangs instead of returning an immediate rejection (e.g. "Permission denied"). This is often caused by TCP wrappers and or gateway filters, and is exacerbated by a bug in rsh which causes TCP or IP level rejections to be ignored. To work around this, specify the port number explicitly in the mailbox name: {imapserver:143}inbox This will cancel the rsh attempt. On 3 Aug 1995 mmcnama@ibm.net wrote: > In , jviolett@on.bell.ca ("John R. Violette") writes: > >When I set my inbox to be on a remote IMAP server, it takes > >about 30 seconds to get prompted for my password. This seemed kind > >of long so I tried it with mtest which is the c-client test > >program. It still took 30 seconds. Then I tried a telnet to port > >143 and that is immediate. Is this delay normal when you first > >start up pine. > > > >I have pine 3.91 on HP-UX 9.01 series 715. The imapd is running > >on hpux 9.01 also on a 730. Any help would be appreciated as I > >could not find the answer in the FAQ or anywhere else. > > I have experienced the same 30+ second delay running PINE on > IBM RS/6000 Workstation.. I've built the executable over and over > trying to tune and optimizing it... > > Interesting enough, these workstation are all NFS mounting their > home and applications directories for a single superserver, if I > perform a POP or IMAP to a standalone system, it only takes 5 > seconds... go figure... > > Workstation are all running AIX v3.2.5 and standalone is running > the latest and greatest AIX v4.1 > > -Michael > > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 15:53:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14617; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:53:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25861; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:31:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25855; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:31:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0se8li-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: snevel@crl.com (Simeon Nevel) Subject: ? on how to add header to msg Date: 3 Aug 1995 20:10:50 GMT Message-Id: <3vraga$at8@nntp.crl.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I have been experimenting with the anon.penet.fi anonymous mailer for posting to usenet I've been able to sucessfully post to alt.test and misc.test. But.... In order to post to an existing thread (without breaking the thread) I need to be able to add an Xref: header to my message before it goes off to penet. How can I add a header (not defined when I use CRTL-r while in the header)? adTHANKSvance Simeon - -- snevel@crl.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* A rabbit is just an angel with big ears *-* PGP Key-id x'C9EFCB75' Print: F52E9C76B162CCB262A39F8A87B040C0 >SIG-ONLY< x'048D45C5' 303AA2AA875C2556AD5A24669C817541 >>SECURE<< Finger me at for PGP key(s) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMCEtMSY623zJ78t1AQHhMgP+LX5sR5M41qmaBwHAnWYVMF6OuuPfZGq5 o4mEQjkBqMECL/aW1ZR25KkSgzkcWDKC3lwh3FR66h4lSeVjN/5/EYr9P38kJm7G pPKFHOb2kwlqSoL07/tr7qGhJERqQ4GUe/XjU49uuHvv9CTkjP2NzjV9ztnPt1ZR g0twyGW2rfU= =tXd1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 16:19:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15831; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:19:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26525; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:02:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26519; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:02:44 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23820; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:01:32 -0700 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 16:01:26 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jonathan R Camanyag Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: V3.91: default-fcc="", doesn't work properly? In-Reply-To: <3vr851$fum@suned1a.nswses.navy.mil> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The problem is that if you specify "" in the Setup/Config screen, Pine quotes it and uses it, i.e. if you look in your .pinerc file, you will see default-fcc="""" To actually set an empty value in the Setup/Config screen, press 'a' to Add, then immediately press RETURN. Pine 3.92 will look for the special case of "" and treat it as a NULL entry... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 3 Aug 1995, Jonathan R Camanyag wrote: > Date: 3 Aug 1995 19:30:41 GMT > From: Jonathan R Camanyag > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: V3.91: default-fcc="", doesn't work properly? > > Has anybody experienced this same problem... > > that if you want to suppress fcc, then specify "" at the 'default-fcc' > field and Pine (supposedly) won't write an fcc. It seems to me that Pine > creates a "" folder and stil fcc's when it shouldn't. > > Jonathan > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > email: camanyag@nswses.navy.mil > UUCP: suned1!camanyag@elroy.JPL.Nasa.Gov > sun!suntzu!suned1!camanyag > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 16:45:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16689; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:45:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27553; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:41:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27541; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:41:44 -0700 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0se9va-000sFuC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 01:43 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Fri, 4 Aug 95 01:41 MESZ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 01:41:21 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Joswig X-Sender: michaelj@paddington Reply-To: michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE To: Simeon Nevel Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ? on how to add header to msg In-Reply-To: <3vraga$at8@nntp.crl.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi Simeon, goto Setup/Config and Add to "customized-hdrs" your Xref, that should work. Ciao, Michael Joswig On 3 Aug 1995, Simeon Nevel wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > I have been experimenting with the anon.penet.fi anonymous mailer for > posting to usenet > > I've been able to sucessfully post to alt.test and misc.test. > > > But.... > > In order to post to an existing thread (without breaking the thread) I > need to be able to add an Xref: header to my message before it goes off > to penet. > > How can I add a header (not defined when I use CRTL-r while in the header)? > > adTHANKSvance > > Simeon > > - -- > snevel@crl.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* A rabbit is just an angel with big ears *-* > PGP Key-id x'C9EFCB75' Print: F52E9C76B162CCB262A39F8A87B040C0 >SIG-ONLY< > x'048D45C5' 303AA2AA875C2556AD5A24669C817541 >>SECURE<< > Finger me at for PGP key(s) > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.2 > > iQCVAwUBMCEtMSY623zJ78t1AQHhMgP+LX5sR5M41qmaBwHAnWYVMF6OuuPfZGq5 > o4mEQjkBqMECL/aW1ZR25KkSgzkcWDKC3lwh3FR66h4lSeVjN/5/EYr9P38kJm7G > pPKFHOb2kwlqSoL07/tr7qGhJERqQ4GUe/XjU49uuHvv9CTkjP2NzjV9ztnPt1ZR > g0twyGW2rfU= > =tXd1 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i Comment: PGP Signed with PineSign 2.0 iQB1AwUBMCFelhWxHCTRfN4BAQGtwgL9Eh9geGY1F5QA9ZOZwkbO7M1pqqAv1MMK E+2JJ195YC6Lw7mZUPwavDcQ1mn9kPy0Tr9dB/g1CLb4AczjhKJ45+dS+brBW4/3 gIsOZZNWPjs4USRdbUMtBCYO2NUsZmqG =PtJH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE Tel. (040) 651 56 25 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 16:45:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16691; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:45:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12259; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:41:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12253; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:41:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0se9pR-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kruise@rs6a.wln.com (kruise) Subject: Problem with Pico and Cntl-X Date: 3 Aug 1995 22:58:59 GMT Message-Id: <3vrkbj$gtp@calliope.wln.com> When using pico with MS-Terminal or kermit I find that I can't exit pico. It's keeps telling me unknown command. However, when I use pico from withine Pine to compose a message I have no problem. Any ideas? Randy Kreuziger kruise@wln.com or kreuzrsk@dfw.wa.gov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 16:54:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17158; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:54:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27788; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:51:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27782; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:51:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0se9yO-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin MacNeil Subject: Re: DOS 4.xx communications? Date: 3 Aug 1995 23:24:36 GMT Message-Id: <3vrlrk$os5@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> References: >On Mon, 31 Jul 1995 rfonger@times.net wrote: >> We have a staffer with an old 286 640k at home who >> wants to be able to get his pine mail from our >> Unix box at work. Does anyone know of shareware or >> freeware he can use for communications? Marianne.Aldridge@UAlberta.CA (Lea Andrellan) writes: >I don't know offhand if any of the following are shareware or freeware, >so please don't quote me on that part, but...I'm assuming a 2400 baud >modem with the above setup, since I don't think he'll be able to connect >at any higher a speed. A vt100 communications software package like >MS-Kermit, QuickLink, ProComm, or ComIT should work just fine for him. I >was on the same setup, with a 2400 baud modem, for three years, >connecting to our Unix server here using MSKermit. If he tries this >arrangement or something similar, and is having problems, feel free to >e-mail me off-list and I'll see if I can troubleshoot for you... Well, I'm posting this from a 286 at 14.4 (57.6 line speed), so I have to disagree about not being able to connect above 2400b. For the record, I'm using vt100 and Procomm/dos 2.01, but almost anything will work. I've also used telemate 4.20, which is excellent -- particularly if you want to stay away from expensive commercial products. To answer the question about downloading mail: It can be done, but it's not easy to set up from scratch. First, you have to make sure that uqwk (available at ftp.gte.com) is installed on the host unix machine, and then you need a dos program that can read your downloaded mail and news. I use yarn (available at ftp.coast.net/simtel/msdos/offline) and I strongly recommend it. Yarn works with whatever text editor you happen to choose, and it also has built-in hooks for the pgp encryption program, if that's important. Also, I've found the olmenu script (available via ftp at america.net/pub/users/kgrisham) to be invaluable for setting things up on the unix end. Hope this helps. -- Kevin MacNeil \ Memorial University of Newfoundland kmacneil@morgan.ucs.mun.ca / English & Philosophy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 17:02:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17464; Thu, 3 Aug 95 17:02:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12598; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:56:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12591; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:56:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seA46-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: snevel@crl.com (Simeon Nevel) Subject: Re: ? on how to add header to msg Date: 3 Aug 1995 20:28:13 GMT Message-Id: <3vrbgt$bej@nntp.crl.com> References: <3vraga$at8@nntp.crl.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Simeon Nevel (snevel@crl.com) wrote: : : In order to post to an existing thread (without breaking the thread) I : need to be able to add an Xref: header to my message before it goes off : to penet. : : How can I add a header (not defined when I use CRTL-r while in the header)? Never mind, I found the answer under Setup, Configuration, Default Headers... I just added Xref: there, and like magic an Xref: header showed up when I hit CTRL-r Thanks anyway... Simeon - -- snevel@crl.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* A rabbit is just an angel with big ears *-* PGP Key-id x'C9EFCB75' Print: F52E9C76B162CCB262A39F8A87B040C0 >SIG-ONLY< x'048D45C5' 303AA2AA875C2556AD5A24669C817541 >>SECURE<< Finger me at for PGP key(s) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMCExViY623zJ78t1AQGBFAP9HNxM9+DL7kkp/WVBqEbsXZCU1VY6DD+1 IKZg36XXTZQGoKYJajI5FQTOCwnHojAhqpBp/d2Tqhay3sw2xlWmXWLQfRw7e/00 Oa4EyaELXxWuB+Pa5GVw2cyyIKo7aoYc1xAX3CCx5EoV+XEri/KnxdAFvFNdUeo0 /l5ghSSNfSQ= =Nl9z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 17:45:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19326; Thu, 3 Aug 95 17:45:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29027; Thu, 3 Aug 95 17:41:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29021; Thu, 3 Aug 95 17:41:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seAoC-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 17:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: L9NQC@qcvaxa.acc.qc.edu (EEE) Subject: Extra lines? Date: 3 Aug 1995 20:31:23 GMT Message-Id: <3vrbmr$1cu2@news.cuny.edu> I am using PINE on vms. For some time I've been having difficulty send messages to servers. It seems that PINE adds a blank line to the begining of the message b4 sending it out. The server recquires any command be on the first line. Is any of this true? Is there anything I can do about it? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 18:55:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20965; Thu, 3 Aug 95 18:55:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14334; Thu, 3 Aug 95 18:52:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14328; Thu, 3 Aug 95 18:52:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seBsH-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 18:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jwhite@materials.com (John L. White) Subject: Re: Some dreaming questions about PINE's future...... Date: 3 Aug 1995 22:12:43 GMT Message-Id: <3vrhkr$gal@allnews.infi.net> References: In article , Dennis Lai says: >and does it hard to write a IMAP daemon for Window NT??? I would greatly appreciate anyone who can solve this problem for me. I am using Windows NT for everything (but mail) and like it very much. But, I have not been able to find any IMAP Daemons that will run on NT. Thus, if I want to use Pine, which I like very much, we have to install a Unix box just for this purpose. Microsoft does not yet support Internet mail on NT (???). But, you can get a DOS Daemon (the name escapes me) that requires a dedicated box to run. I don't want this either. I just want to use PC Pine to access an IMAP Daemon running on our NT Gateway box... If anyone has found a solution to this problem please clue me in... Thanks, From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 20:39:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22759; Thu, 3 Aug 95 20:39:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01575; Thu, 3 Aug 95 20:37:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01569; Thu, 3 Aug 95 20:37:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seDZ8-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 20:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynch.94@osu.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: Re: pine and "userdb" in sendmail 8.6.12 Date: 3 Aug 1995 23:15:54 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3r00da$8f2@ocean.CAM.ORG> One option you have for this problem is to have sendmail take care of this quirk of pine. (I got the following info on comp.mail.sendmail from Bjart Kvarme). In your /etc/sendmail.cf file, add the following line before the rulesets. (I put mine right after the line saying "Kdequote dequote" and before the "Special Macros" section"): # Define our userdb file for pine rewrites Kuserdb btree -o /etc/userdb.db Then, add the following ruleset #1. (I put mine right after Ruleset 0): ################################################## ### Ruleset 1, rewrite sender header & envelope ## ################################################## #Thanks to Bjart Kvarme S1 R$- < @ $=w . > $* $: $1 < @ $2 . > $3 ?? $1 username@localhost ? R$+ ?? $+ $: $1 ?? $(userdb $2 : mailname $: @ $) R$+ ?? @ $@ $1 Not found R$+ ?? $+ $>3 $2 Found, rewrite #NOTE ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ # Use Tab Characters Use Tab Characters in these regions # to make three columns (the line with "mailname" only has 2 columns). This is how mine is set up and it works great without having to alter pine's code. Also, if you have a "SLIP" or "PPP" connection, another good thing to do in the /etc/sendmail.cf file is to move the line for the nameserver lookup in ruleset 96 to the bottom of the ruleset so that your local mail can be delivered even when you don't have a connection to a nameserver. The key two lines to move to the bottom of the ruleset are: # pass to name server to make hostname canonical R$* < @ $* $~P > $* $: $1 < @ $[ $2 $3 $] > $4 Hope this helps. Jerry On 5 Jun 1995, Phillip Vandry wrote: > Otmar Stahl writes: > > >I recently set up sendmail 8.6.12 on HP-UX. My idea was to use the > >"userdb" feature to replace my unix login name with first_name.last_name > >for outgoing mail using the "mailname" entry in the sendmail user data > >base. This in fact works with mailx and elm, but unfortunately not with > >pine, my favourite mailer. In outgoing mail, the unix login name takes > >preference over the entry in the user data base, although pine is set up > >to use sendmail. Since elm uses the sendmail user data base, it looks like > >a set-up problem with pine. > > It's because PINE generates a From: header while the other MUA's don't. > This is exactly why I think it shouldn't. That's why I used the following > patches to prevent it from doing so. It's not a perfect solution, but > it suited our needs very well. > > Users can still change the from address if ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM is defined, > but it cannot be done through the personal-name field. > [SNIP] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 20:53:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23059; Thu, 3 Aug 95 20:53:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15677; Thu, 3 Aug 95 20:52:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15671; Thu, 3 Aug 95 20:52:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seDjB-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 20:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: llb@bga.com (Larry L. Buickel) Subject: What is the .addressbook.lu file? Date: 4 Aug 1995 03:11:39 GMT Message-Id: <3vs35b$5mv@giga.bga.com> I found it in my home directory - what is it and can I get rid of it? Thanks ... -- *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= Writing DCE apps in Austin, TX *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Larry L. Buickel | llb@getinc.com | Help keep the Information Graphic Examp!e | Super Highway free of litter! Technologies, Inc. | Don't Mess With CyberTexas ... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 22:55:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25559; Thu, 3 Aug 95 22:55:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03595; Thu, 3 Aug 95 22:52:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03589; Thu, 3 Aug 95 22:52:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seFfU-00038CC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 22:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: llb@bga.com (Larry L. Buickel) Subject: What is the max usable entry count in a distribution list? Date: 4 Aug 1995 04:58:53 GMT Message-Id: <3vs9ed$9lb@giga.bga.com> I want to create a distribution list with about 500 people on it. Will this work alright? I think I have "decoded" the addressbook format, but is there any kind of import tool that will allow me mass import them? Is there actually any documentation on the addressbook format, especially distribution lists? Thanks ... -- *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= Writing DCE apps in Austin, TX *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Larry L. Buickel | llb@getinc.com | Help keep the Information Graphic Examp!e | Super Highway free of litter! Technologies, Inc. | Don't Mess With CyberTexas ... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 23:55:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26354; Thu, 3 Aug 95 23:55:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17663; Thu, 3 Aug 95 23:52:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17657; Thu, 3 Aug 95 23:52:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seGc8-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 23:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: llb@bga.com (Larry L. Buickel) Subject: Add Reply-To: header in 3.89?? Date: 4 Aug 1995 06:39:34 GMT Message-Id: <3vsfb6$csj@giga.bga.com> Is there any way to add a Reply-To: header for outgoing mail in Pine 3.89? I've tried to add it via the customized headers option in the .pinerc, but there weren't any examples in the file (sure could use some!) and my experiments didn't result in compositions that had the field in it. I checked the FAQ at washington.??? and the other places that I could find on the Web searching thru Yahoo. If there is another good source of info, please let me that too. Thanks ... -- *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= Writing DCE apps in Austin, TX *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Larry L. Buickel | llb@getinc.com | Help keep the Information Graphic Examp!e | Super Highway free of litter! Technologies, Inc. | Don't Mess With CyberTexas ... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 06:09:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04151; Fri, 4 Aug 95 06:09:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09280; Fri, 4 Aug 95 06:02:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09274; Fri, 4 Aug 95 06:02:10 -0700 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0seMQ0-000sFyC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 15:04 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Fri, 4 Aug 95 15:01 MESZ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 15:01:45 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Joswig X-Sender: michaelj@paddington Reply-To: michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE To: "Larry L. Buickel" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: What is the .addressbook.lu file? In-Reply-To: <3vs35b$5mv@giga.bga.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The .lu file is a LookUp-file for PINE. It's ment for faster access to your adressbook. It's good to have it! Ciao, Michael Joswig On 4 Aug 1995, Larry L. Buickel wrote: > I found it in my home directory - what is it and can I get rid of it? > Thanks ... > > -- > *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= Writing DCE apps in Austin, TX *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* > Larry L. Buickel | > llb@getinc.com | Help keep the Information > Graphic Examp!e | Super Highway free of litter! > Technologies, Inc. | Don't Mess With CyberTexas ... > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE Tel. (040) 651 56 25 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 07:29:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05642; Fri, 4 Aug 95 07:29:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22566; Fri, 4 Aug 95 07:26:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rocoto.aug.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22560; Fri, 4 Aug 95 07:26:16 -0700 Received: (from plardner@localhost) by rocoto.aug.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA10799; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 10:26:19 -0400 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 10:26:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Lardner X-Sender: plardner@rocoto To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: ASCII Characters in Pico Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Any thoughts on why I am not able to display all of the ASCII charaters=20 in Pico? With alt-160 I can display =A0, but when I want an e with the=20 same accent (alt-130) Pico responds "unknown command". Any assistance=20 will be appreciated. Peter From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 08:25:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07148; Fri, 4 Aug 95 08:25:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11483; Fri, 4 Aug 95 08:18:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11477; Fri, 4 Aug 95 08:18:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seOTq-00038HC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 08:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: What is the .addressbook.lu file? Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 11:06:37 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3vs35b$5mv@giga.bga.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3vs35b$5mv@giga.bga.com> On 4 Aug 1995, Larry L. Buickel wrote: | I found it in my home directory - what is it and can I get rid of it? | Thanks ... It is a file Pine builds automatically for its own internal operations with your address book. Hang on to it. It makes Pine more efficient. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 08:36:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07649; Fri, 4 Aug 95 08:36:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23414; Fri, 4 Aug 95 08:29:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23408; Fri, 4 Aug 95 08:29:45 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18401; Fri, 4 Aug 95 08:29:40 -0700 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 08:29:37 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Larry L. Buickel" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Add Reply-To: header in 3.89?? In-Reply-To: <3vsfb6$csj@giga.bga.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine 3.89 didn't have any way to add a Reply-To: or other custom headers. The current Pine 3.91 release does... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 4 Aug 1995, Larry L. Buickel wrote: > Date: 4 Aug 1995 06:39:34 GMT > From: Larry L. Buickel > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Add Reply-To: header in 3.89?? > > Is there any way to add a Reply-To: header for outgoing mail > in Pine 3.89? I've tried to add it via the customized headers > option in the .pinerc, but there weren't any examples in the > file (sure could use some!) and my experiments didn't result > in compositions that had the field in it. I checked the FAQ > at washington.??? and the other places that I could find on > the Web searching thru Yahoo. If there is another good source > of info, please let me that too. Thanks ... > > -- > *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= Writing DCE apps in Austin, TX *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* > Larry L. Buickel | > llb@getinc.com | Help keep the Information > Graphic Examp!e | Super Highway free of litter! > Technologies, Inc. | Don't Mess With CyberTexas ... > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 09:23:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10207; Fri, 4 Aug 95 09:23:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24627; Fri, 4 Aug 95 09:18:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24621; Fri, 4 Aug 95 09:18:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sePRa-00038BC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 09:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rob Wood Subject: COOKBOOK pine on NT pc's Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 11:18:08 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does there exist a description of how to implement pine on pc's? I am using it on SUN's and it is working well. I would like to try it on some PC users to see if I could get out of the dual-mail management business. I would like a 1-2-3 step-by-step document that has been used by someone else. I think since I have NT on all my PC's and thus they all have tcp/ip this should be an easy job, but I do not have a lot of time to devote to it. Can anyone help? Rob Wood rob@ontos.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 10:34:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12999; Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:34:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14840; Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:29:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14834; Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:29:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seQXb-00038HC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kmacneil@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kevin MacNeil) Subject: cmsg cancel <3vrlrk$os5@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Control: cancel <3vrlrk$os5@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Date: 4 Aug 1995 16:17:21 GMT Message-Id: <3vth6h$kj7@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> cancel <3vrlrk$os5@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> in newsgroup comp.mail.pine This article was cancelled from within NN version 6.5.0 #6 (NOV) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 10:48:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13728; Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:48:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26380; Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:44:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26374; Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:44:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seQkk-00038BC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: snevel@crl.com (Simeon Nevel) Subject: Re: PINE: multiple recipients, but NOT all named? Date: 4 Aug 1995 17:39:35 GMT Message-Id: <3vtm0n$2ia@nntp.crl.com> References: <3vtlca$deq@huron.eel.ufl.edu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- David J. Campbell Jr. (dc@freenet.ufl.edu) wrote: : can I use PINE to make a mailing list, in order to send the same Email to : multiple recipients withOUT the names of all the recipients appearing in : the To or Cc header? : : How would I do this? When your cursor is in the headers, hit CTRL-R (^r), this will display the "expanded" or "rich" headers... Bcc: should now appear. Just place the addresses in the Bcc: instead of the To: or Cc: area - -- snevel@crl.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* A rabbit is just an angel with big ears *-* PGP Key-id x'C9EFCB75' Print: F52E9C76B162CCB262A39F8A87B040C0 >SIG-ONLY< x'048D45C5' 303AA2AA875C2556AD5A24669C817541 >>SECURE<< Finger me at for PGP key(s) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMCJbTiY623zJ78t1AQE0egP+I3jVakt2FlL+w1+nZ7YPyuLBi7VboEIC oX/hLpveDMtV11m43Za5/7/KzHp+SEMbrwA5ZKpW2UmOx7/NdOWtWvjFhTAjM+61 7/lCcfxoA/EVu2eghALTPSKcvofEUbShhHmGxAUGRMtLaaqFpoD69GEuELzux/5+ kNPLYrFcWYQ= =TdqJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 11:02:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14338; Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:02:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15637; Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:59:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15631; Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:59:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seR1D-00038BC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tonyw8@aol.com (TonyW8) Subject: PC Pine & Passwords Date: 4 Aug 1995 13:42:09 -0400 Message-Id: <3vtm5h$1l0@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Since PC-Pine does not support allowing users to change password, I was wondering how most are handling this? I was thinking of having the users telnet to the imap server and have the login program run passwd for them (they will not be doing anything else on the imap server). Other possibilities? Tony Wyland Computing Services Messiah College wyland@mcis.messiah.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 11:11:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14756; Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:11:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26841; Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:09:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26835; Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:09:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seRAL-00038BC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dc@freenet.ufl.edu (David J. Campbell Jr.) Subject: PINE: multiple recipients, but NOT all named? Date: 4 Aug 1995 17:28:42 GMT Message-Id: <3vtlca$deq@huron.eel.ufl.edu> can I use PINE to make a mailing list, in order to send the same Email to multiple recipients withOUT the names of all the recipients appearing in the To or Cc header? How would I do this? can someone give me a clue? I don't have one.... -- "Full quotebacks" of all our text, and private replies to my Usenet posts are both appreciated! -=- My "standby address" (rarely used) is dc@dkmail.dkeep.com, & fax is 904 376-9929 (24 hr/7 days), in Gainesville, north central Florida. Where are you located? Thank you! David From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 11:26:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15521; Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:26:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27139; Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:23:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27133; Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:23:30 -0700 Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-4 #2001) id <01HTO99VV5R88ZEUUC@INNOSOFT.COM>; Fri, 04 Aug 1995 11:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 04 Aug 1995 11:23:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Portia Shao Subject: Re: Some dreaming questions about PINE's future...... In-Reply-To: <3vrhkr$gal@allnews.infi.net> To: "John L. White" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT On Thu, 3 Aug 1995, John L. White wrote: > In article , Dennis Lai says: > > >and does it hard to write a IMAP daemon for Window NT??? > > I would greatly appreciate anyone who can solve this problem for me. > I am using Windows NT for everything (but mail) and like it very much. > But, I have not been able to find any IMAP Daemons that will run on NT. IMAP Daemons serve out mail files on the server, what mail files are you think about? Microsoft Mail? cc:Mail? none of these PC mail files are in such a format that 3rd parties are welcome to manipulate (Lotus has been know to change their format when someone found out what the file looks like). Or are you thinking of using some kind of UNIX mail format on NT? That can probably be done, but I don't believe anyone has such a product. > Thus, if I want to use Pine, which I like very much, we have to install > a Unix box just for this purpose. Microsoft does not yet support > Internet mail on NT (???). But, you can get a DOS Daemon (the name > escapes me) that requires a dedicated box to run. I don't want this > either. I just want to use PC Pine to access an IMAP Daemon running on > our NT Gateway box... If anyone has found a solution to this problem > please clue me in... > > Thanks, > +-----POP3's "Leave mail on server" is for the birds ----------------+ | | | /portia portia@innosoft.com | | Innosoft International Inc. (818)919-3600 voice, (818)919-3614 fax| | 1050 East Garvey Ave South, West Covina, CA 91790 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 11:28:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15656; Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:28:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16263; Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:24:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16257; Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:24:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seRPj-00038BC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vecsey@course1.harvard.edu (Lester Vecsey) Subject: PGP - Integrated, Behind the scenes Date: 4 Aug 1995 17:45:11 GMT Message-Id: <3vtmb7$6eb@decaxp.harvard.edu> Any hopes of including PGP support in PINE? mkpgp works ok, but it would be REALLY nice if PGP could be integrated in pine as well as MIME support is for attachments. i.e., every message you type in pine would be automatically signed by your secret key and messages sent to you would automatically be checked for validity, and decrypted on the fly without you even knowing it. Imagine all the new people that would be using pgp if it was as simple as that. -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 16:04:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26685; Fri, 4 Aug 95 16:04:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02532; Fri, 4 Aug 95 15:59:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02523; Fri, 4 Aug 95 15:59:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seVfv-00038BC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 15:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "David S. Spillers" Subject: Need help on local news Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 16:09:57 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I need help in setting up my box to allow local newsgroups, ie, local forums. No matter how I try to configure the pine.conf file I cannot get the right formula to allow for newsgroups to exist on my server. Any ideas? I have been working with the tech-notes and cannot figure out an appropriate system. Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 17:26:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29623; Fri, 4 Aug 95 17:26:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24363; Fri, 4 Aug 95 17:25:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24357; Fri, 4 Aug 95 17:25:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seX0D-00038BC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 17:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gmangum@umich.edu (Gene Mangum) Subject: Re: Help: connect to imapd is slow Date: Fri, 04 Aug 1995 19:53 ET Message-Id: <19950804195303.gmangum@mangum3.ann-arbor.mi.us> References: <3vp52e$civ@news-s01.ca.us.ibm.net> In Article "Mark Crispin " says: > Your server system is almost certainly set up so that the command: > rsh imapserver /etc/rimapd > (where "imapserver" is the name of your IMAP server) hangs instead of > returning an immediate rejection (e.g. "Permission denied"). [Stuff Deleted] > To work around this, specify the port number explicitly in the mailbox > name: > {imapserver:143}inbox > This will cancel the rsh attempt. [Stuff Deleted] I have this on all lines in my .pinerc which reference the server, and I still get the rsh when I list folders (the "L" command). Any way to fix this? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 18:27:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00756; Fri, 4 Aug 95 18:27:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04675; Fri, 4 Aug 95 18:25:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04663; Fri, 4 Aug 95 18:25:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seXxT-00038BC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 18:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: llgoff@vms.ucc.okstate.edu (Lorraine L. Goff) Subject: pine doesn't see remote server Date: 4 Aug 1995 23:28:39 GMT Message-Id: <3vuaf7$ug6@bubba.ucc.okstate.edu> I am running OpenVMS 6.1, DEC TCP/IP 3.2 (soon to be 3.3), and PMDF 5.0, and am trying to get Pine 3.91 beta 5 (from Israel) to see a remote mail server supporting imap, pop3, and pop. It only sees the local mail box. The problem is, is that I want mail to only be received and sent through the remote server (ideally, disabling VMS mail). One other note, the setup I am shooting for is to be used only by our student population. Faculty and staff will still be able to send/receive mail locally. Any suggestions for the setup? (Also, it seems our Ultrix admin is having a similar problem.) Lorraine L. Goff, CDRP VMS System Manager LLGOFF@okway.okstate.edu Comp. & Info. Services phone: 405/744-6301 fax: 405/744-7562 113 Math Sciences, Oklahoma State University, Stillwater, OK 74078-0606 *** Life in the fast lane is difficult for turtles. *** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 19:44:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02200; Fri, 4 Aug 95 19:44:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26178; Fri, 4 Aug 95 19:40:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26172; Fri, 4 Aug 95 19:40:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seZ7s-00038BC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 19:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Chris G. Walter" Subject: IMAP..Connection refused Date: 5 Aug 1995 02:21:22 GMT Message-Id: <3vukj2$lie@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to read a remote inbox from my Linux machine. I am using PPP to make the connection to the mail server. I get error messages such as: server, 143:connection refused How do I start to debug this problem? How do I verify that IMAP is running on the mail server? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 23:16:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05470; Fri, 4 Aug 95 23:16:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07505; Fri, 4 Aug 95 23:10:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07499; Fri, 4 Aug 95 23:10:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0secQ0-00038IC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 23:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stevedav@netcom.com (Steve Davidson) Subject: Common mail groupware software Message-Id: Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 05:30:21 GMT Can someone please direct me to MAIL or MESSAGING software that allows a group of people to share a single mail queue. I'd need simple message locking so that when one person is read/responding to mail, others see the lock and cannot respond to the same message. Freeware or commercial software will do. Thank you. --------======= * =======-------- Steven Davidson stevedav@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 5 00:29:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06428; Sat, 5 Aug 95 00:29:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29700; Sat, 5 Aug 95 00:26:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29694; Sat, 5 Aug 95 00:26:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sedZx-00038IC; Sat, 5 Aug 95 00:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: IMAP..Connection refused Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 23:15:04 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3vukj2$lie@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3vukj2$lie@nntp5.u.washington.edu> This message means that the server system is not running an IMAP server. "Connection refused" means that you tried to connect to a TCP port (143 is the assigned port for IMAP) that has no server listening. So, the first step to debug the problem is to negotiate with the server system's management to run an IMAP server. On 5 Aug 1995, Chris G. Walter wrote: > I am trying to read a remote inbox from my Linux machine. > I am using PPP to make the connection to the mail server. > I get error messages such as: > > server, 143:connection refused > > How do I start to debug this problem? > How do I verify that IMAP is running on the > mail server? -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 5 00:41:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06697; Sat, 5 Aug 95 00:41:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08248; Sat, 5 Aug 95 00:30:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08242; Sat, 5 Aug 95 00:30:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sedcX-00038IC; Sat, 5 Aug 95 00:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lpat@unixg.ubc.ca (Lois Patterson) Subject: Using one nickname for a group of people? Date: 5 Aug 1995 00:16:29 -0700 Message-Id: <3vv5sd$q2d@interchg.ubc.ca> Is there some way that I can send email through Pine to a group of people, just by putting one nickname in the To: field? There is something like this on my AdvanceMail at work, I think (called a distribution list) Thanks, Lois lpat@unixg.ubc.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 5 01:09:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07433; Sat, 5 Aug 95 01:09:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00373; Sat, 5 Aug 95 01:06:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00367; Sat, 5 Aug 95 01:05:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seeDo-00038IC; Sat, 5 Aug 95 01:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gunnar Anzinger Subject: Patch for 8-bit-characters Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 01:34:15 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello! A few month ago someone posted a little patch for PINE 3.91 to this newsgroup. This patch allowed to send 8-bit-characters instead of MIME-quoted-printable. I applied the patch to the source of PINE and recompiled it. The patch worked fine since then. But unfortunately I lost the source of the patch as well as the binary due to a harddisk crash a few weeks ago. If the originator of this patch or someone else who saved it, reads this article, it would be nice if he could mail it to me or post it again to this newsgroup. Bye, Gunnar ---------------------------------------------------------------- Gunnar Anzinger | Telefon: +49-89-5328327 Maistrasse 63 | E-Mail: anzinger@guug.de D-80337 Muenchen | WWW: http://home.pages.de/~anzinger/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 5 01:27:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07816; Sat, 5 Aug 95 01:27:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08822; Sat, 5 Aug 95 01:26:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08814; Sat, 5 Aug 95 01:26:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seeV1-00038IC; Sat, 5 Aug 95 01:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: saken@cyberspace.com (Scott Kenney) Subject: Reading MH folders, How? Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 08:15:38 GMT Message-Id: The help files say that prepending #mh/ to a folder name designates it as an MH style folder. I've tried ever combination I can think of and can't get this to work. I don't want to pack my MH folders, I'd like to be able if possible to read them directly from PINE. If someone can tell me how to make this work I'd be deeply thankfull. E-mail me directly and I'll sumarise. -- scott kenney * saken@cyberspace.com * freebsd hacker * toriphile veteran of the psychic wars * charter member ael fanclub * geek nomad of the time streams * orgonaut * agent of fortune * pita * pigtailed * disgruntled postal employee * blood red game player From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 5 08:27:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14658; Sat, 5 Aug 95 08:27:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05748; Sat, 5 Aug 95 08:23:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05742; Sat, 5 Aug 95 08:23:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sekz0-00038IC; Sat, 5 Aug 95 08:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: david Subject: Re: Q: BinHex - whato do with it Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 20:05:59 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 25 Jul 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > "BinHex" is a binary-to-text encoding for Apple Macintosh files. Correct, and BinHex 4.0 has been adopted as a MIME type: application/mac-binhex4.0 What folks are asking is, can PINE detect attachments of this type and automatically "de-binhex" 'em (in the same way that base64 encoded attachments are decoded). > So your easiest route is to save the attachment to a file, take it to an > Apple Macintosh and feed it to an unpacking program such as "StuffIt > Expander". No way! I've had success saving attachments to a file then manually running mcvert to de-binhex the file (followed by a dd to strip off the 128-byte Mac header if I wanted to get at the file straight away); having to "take it to an Apple Macintosh" is just nowhere near the "easiest route", especially when someone is sending me a plain text file, or a GIF image that I subsequently want to manipulate under UNIX. "Okay," I hear, "why don't you just make do with mcvert?" Partly because it's cumbersome, partly because it's *easier* to have the decoding of BinHex4.0 files built into PINE (perhaps an option during compile-time) for when you're getting PINE up and running on a new machine (os or platform - quite common 'round here). No need for *encoding*, just *decoding*. Not too much, surely? :-) > There are also deBinHexers available for DOS and UNIX, but you may well > find that the deBinHex'd file is a compressed archive (eg, a StuffIt > archive) that needs further processing. StuffIt Expander will do it all. No way - whilst "archives" are often sent around as binhex files, often Mac mailers encode single files in binhex, which is real annoying when you read your mail on a UNIX box, want to process that single file on that same UNIX box, but need to go through some extra step first. Obviously, if the decoded file is a compressed or self-extracting archive, then taking it to a Mac is necessary - but what about everything else? :-( Just as doco exists covering QP and base64 encoding, doco also exists covering BinHex4.0; surely it wouldn't be too difficult to add it in at some stage (decoding only)? Hmmm .. might poke around with 3.91 later... Cheers.. dave From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 5 09:05:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15267; Sat, 5 Aug 95 09:05:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13177; Sat, 5 Aug 95 09:02:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13171; Sat, 5 Aug 95 09:02:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0selcz-00038IC; Sat, 5 Aug 95 08:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Brian D. Uhreen" Subject: I want to download my attachments... Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 09:42:23 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-2002600785-807609460=:68774" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-2002600785-807609460=:68774 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Hej, The problem is that I would like to DOWNLOAD my mail from Pine to my local system. (Currently Pine is running on my provider). More importantly I would like to be able to download any attachments in the mail. When I try to issue a sz -u - via either the printer assignments or a unix pipe command I get a screen that has the zmodem autorecive call but with some ??? is it (see below) Is this a problem on my part or is it Pine. sz: 1 file requested: - Sending in Batch Mode **?B00000000000000 ??????????? Any help would be appreciated. Brian Uhreen bduhreen@freenet.calgary.ab.ca |Att planera ar att grundlagga en spanning or Brian Uhreen 907 19th St NE |Att foru at sin plan i livet ar att Calgary Alberta, |vidnakthalla denna spanning Canada | Peter Hoeg --0-2002600785-807609460=:68774-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 5 10:53:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16926; Sat, 5 Aug 95 10:53:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07381; Sat, 5 Aug 95 10:47:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07375; Sat, 5 Aug 95 10:47:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0senGO-00038IC; Sat, 5 Aug 95 10:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Brian D. Uhreen" Subject: Swedish characters Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 11:24:22 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE hej, =09Could someone tell me how I could configure lynx and/or the Pine mailer so they will show the swedish characters proporly. I have my computer set to swedish and I would like to be able to see an A (and a with two dots on it) and the rest when ppl write to me The letters "a" with a dot, "a" with two dots and "o" with two dots looks like this if I type them, first a capital and then a small one they are in the order as above: =C5=E5 =C4=E4 =D6=F6=20 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^< I would like them to show up as the actual letter=20 rather than (for ex) a '*' or a 'A'. =09Brian bduhreen@freenet.calgary.ab.ca |Att planera ar att grundlagga en spannin= g or Brian Uhreen 907 19th St NE |Att foru at sin plan i livet ar att Calgary Alberta, |vidnakthalla denna spanning Canada | Peter Hoeg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 5 13:00:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19130; Sat, 5 Aug 95 13:00:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15370; Sat, 5 Aug 95 12:47:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15364; Sat, 5 Aug 95 12:47:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sep98-00038IC; Sat, 5 Aug 95 12:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccurtis@ee.fit.edu (Christopher W. Curtis) Subject: Re: PINE: multiple recipients, but NOT all named? Message-Id: References: <3vtlca$deq@huron.eel.ufl.edu> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 18:35:11 GMT In <3vtlca$deq@huron.eel.ufl.edu> dc@freenet.ufl.edu (David J. Campbell Jr.) writes: >can I use PINE to make a mailing list, in order to send the same Email to >multiple recipients withOUT the names of all the recipients appearing in >the To or Cc header? The method would be to send the mail to nobody or yourself, and then to Bcc it to the list. You can access Bcc in PINE by hitting -R in the message headers section. -- T | Christopher Curtis | Those who would sacrifice | O E | Sun Lab System Administrator | liberty for security | S A | Florida Institute of Technology | deserve neither. | / M | Melbourne, Florida N|N -Benjamin Franklin | 2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 5 18:01:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24100; Sat, 5 Aug 95 18:01:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12509; Sat, 5 Aug 95 17:54:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12503; Sat, 5 Aug 95 17:54:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0setxO-00038IC; Sat, 5 Aug 95 17:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Srihari Gopal Subject: [Q] Decoding binary posts using PINE newsreader? Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 12:24:19 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello: How does one decode uuencoded multi-part binary files posted on the newsgroups using PINE??? Is there an easier way than to save each file and then manually do the uudecoding?? SG From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 5 18:19:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24427; Sat, 5 Aug 95 18:19:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18583; Sat, 5 Aug 95 18:13:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18577; Sat, 5 Aug 95 18:13:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seuFT-00038QC; Sat, 5 Aug 95 18:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Using one nickname for a group of people? Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 21:09:44 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3vv5sd$q2d@interchg.ubc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3vv5sd$q2d@interchg.ubc.ca> On 5 Aug 1995, Lois Patterson wrote: | Is there some way that I can send email through Pine to a group of | people, just by putting one nickname in the To: field? There is | something like this on my AdvanceMail at work, I think (called a | distribution list) | | Thanks, | | Lois | lpat@unixg.ubc.ca Yup. From the Pine Main Menu, go into the Addressbook function. Type a question mark to get the help screens, which explain about setting up distribution lists. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 6 05:33:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05383; Sun, 6 Aug 95 05:33:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20713; Sun, 6 Aug 95 05:27:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20707; Sun, 6 Aug 95 05:27:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sf4i6-00038IC; Sun, 6 Aug 95 05:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ferret@fluffy.seqeb.gov.au (Graeme Wightman) Subject: Re: Swedish characters Message-Id: References: Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 12:15:16 GMT Brian D. Uhreen wrote... > > >hej, >=09Could someone tell me how I could configure lynx and/or the Pine >mailer so they will show the swedish characters proporly. I have my >computer set to swedish and I would like to be able to see an A (and a >with two dots on it) and the rest when ppl write to me > I've been trying out a Windows based MUA thats works just fine with Pine folders and IMAP daemon. It called EMBLA from ICL ProSystems AB in Sweden. I bet it handles Swedish characters, it even comes in two flavours - English and Swedish. You can get a demo version from http://www.pro.icl.se/ -- Graeme Wightman - System Support ____ Email:ferret@alfalfa.seqeb.gov.au SEQEB, GPO Box 1461, (/ .. \) Fax: +61 7 2217556 Brisbane 4001 AUSTRALIA \__,_/ Phone:+61 7 2234150 / ^/ <<< GOD is REAL ... unless declared INTEGER. >>> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 6 12:36:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11299; Sun, 6 Aug 95 12:36:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25606; Sun, 6 Aug 95 12:29:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25600; Sun, 6 Aug 95 12:29:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfBIi-00038IC; Sun, 6 Aug 95 12:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ats@eliot42.wustl.edu (Alan Shutko) Subject: Re: PINE: multiple recipients, but NOT all named? Date: 6 Aug 1995 19:25:14 GMT Message-Id: <4034uq$cgq@newsreader.wustl.edu> References: <3vtlca$deq@huron.eel.ufl.edu> Christopher W. Curtis (ccurtis@ee.fit.edu) wrote: > In <3vtlca$deq@huron.eel.ufl.edu> dc@freenet.ufl.edu (David J. Campbell Jr.) writes: > >can I use PINE to make a mailing list, in order to send the same Email to > >multiple recipients withOUT the names of all the recipients appearing in > >the To or Cc header? > The method would be to send the mail to nobody or yourself, and then to > Bcc it to the list. You can access Bcc in PINE by hitting -R in > the message headers section. You should always have at least one address (even invalid) in the To: or Cc: headers. If you don't, sendmail will add Apparently-To: headers for some number of the recipients. You don't see these headers in pine, but you do in other mailer. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 6 13:12:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12054; Sun, 6 Aug 95 13:12:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29220; Sun, 6 Aug 95 13:06:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29214; Sun, 6 Aug 95 13:06:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfBny-00038gC; Sun, 6 Aug 95 12:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nofear@eden.com (NOFEAR) Subject: Re: PINE: multiple recipients, but NOT all named? Date: 6 Aug 1995 19:37:59 GMT Message-Id: <4035mo$gdh@boris.eden.com> References: <3vtlca$deq@huron.eel.ufl.edu> I am not sure but if you find out please post it to the newsgroup. I have been looking at the pine manual but did not find anything out about it. I know that you can make a list in the address book. It is kinda of a mailing list but you need to make the list yourself. David J. Campbell Jr. (dc@freenet.ufl.edu) wrote: : can I use PINE to make a mailing list, in order to send the same Email to : multiple recipients withOUT the names of all the recipients appearing in : the To or Cc header? : How would I do this? : can someone give me a clue? I don't have one.... : -- : "Full quotebacks" of all our text, and private replies to my Usenet posts : are both appreciated! -=- My "standby address" (rarely used) is : dc@dkmail.dkeep.com, & fax is 904 376-9929 (24 hr/7 days), in Gainesville, : north central Florida. Where are you located? Thank you! David -- *!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*! Don't let your fears stand in the way of your dreams! A champion is someone who gets up even when they can't. - NO FEAR! *!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 6 13:35:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12393; Sun, 6 Aug 95 13:35:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26361; Sun, 6 Aug 95 13:30:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26355; Sun, 6 Aug 95 13:30:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfCK9-00038OC; Sun, 6 Aug 95 13:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hamjavar@unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar) Subject: imap env. , monitor remote mbox Date: 6 Aug 1995 13:56:01 -0600 Message-Id: <4036oh$si8@lacerta.unm.edu> hello: is there any flavor of xbiff out there that can be useful in environments where imap is used (to access remote mailboxes ...) ? Farid Hamjavar hamjavar@unm.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 7 02:27:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25214; Mon, 7 Aug 95 02:27:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06138; Mon, 7 Aug 95 02:21:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06132; Mon, 7 Aug 95 02:21:09 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 7 Aug 1995 10:19:59 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA13330; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 10:20:27 +0100 Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 10:20:26 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk To: Nancy McGough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Need a newsreader easier than PINE!!!???!! In-Reply-To: <3vb6sa$rcd@news1.wolfe.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just in case anyone is interested in doing this, you may like to take a look at my "hyperactive" utility which creates indexed Web pages listing newsgroups. It's fairly configurable, along with some sneaky features that allow you, for example, to sort local newsgroups to the top of the list and, if your server keeps such a file, a list of recently created newsgroups. You can see our newsgroup index at: http://www.york.ac.uk/ServerSupport/UsenetNews/ and find the software and description at: http://www.york.ac.uk/ftparchive/WWW/utils/hyperactive/ Hyperactive is written using Perl 4. I have had reports it doesn't work properly under Perl 5, but have yet to try it out to see. (I'll shut up now, as this seems to have wandered off Pine altogether -- Sorry!) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 28 Jul 1995, Nancy McGough wrote: > I'd say that either Pine or Lynx (with the `news:' URL) are the > easiest. How about if you create a Web page with a list of > the newsgroups linked using the `news:' URL and then give people > a choice of using either Pine of Lynx to participate in the > newsgroups? > > Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 7 03:40:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26697; Mon, 7 Aug 95 03:40:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08323; Mon, 7 Aug 95 03:32:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08317; Mon, 7 Aug 95 03:32:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfPSg-00038IC; Mon, 7 Aug 95 03:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: djohnson@cix.compulink.co.uk ("David Johnson") Subject: Re: Getting mail using SMTP Message-Id: References: <3vnnbe$hcb@titan.saturn.net> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 10:29:37 GMT In article <3vnnbe$hcb@titan.saturn.net> steevess@saturn.net (Scott Steeves) writes: > I have Linux set up on my machine and I connect to my ISP using a SLIP >connection. I have attempted to configure pine to get my mail from my >ISP using SMTP. However, whenever I attempt to get my mail, I get a >message stating that the connection was refused. I have no problems >sending mail out using SMTP, but I'm not allowed to check my mailbox. If your ISP is providing mail by means of SMTP you don't have a mailbox, on the server machine, like you would with POP3 or IMAP. What is required is that when you connect to the ISP you have a SMTP daemon running on you machine when you connect. The ISP should then when it detects that you have connected to the system send you the mail that is waiting for you. These mail messages will be deposited in mailboxes on you local machine, depending on how the SMTP daemon has been configured. You can then read the mail using pine looking at the local mailboxes. > This initially appears to be a problem with the username and password, >but I've tried a few things around this. My username and password on the >Linux machine are the same as on my provider, but that doesn't help. Nope its nothing to do with that, pine with be attempting to connect to the IMAPD (or POP3) port and I suspect that there is not a server running on either port so it is giving connection refused as a result. Hope this helps Dave -- ======================================================================== | djohnson@cix.compulink.co.uk | I think I gone insane, | | David Johnson | I can't remember my name | ======================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 7 06:26:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00251; Mon, 7 Aug 95 06:26:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09081; Mon, 7 Aug 95 06:17:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09075; Mon, 7 Aug 95 06:17:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfS1w-00038IC; Mon, 7 Aug 95 06:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: smitha@worf.netins.net (Warren/Andy Smith) Subject: forwarding?!help Date: 7 Aug 1995 13:13:14 GMT Message-Id: <4053ha$7ju@insosf1.netins.net> How can you get pine to forward incoming mail from one server to a differant address... - Andy SMith From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 7 07:41:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01620; Mon, 7 Aug 95 07:41:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10964; Mon, 7 Aug 95 07:32:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10958; Mon, 7 Aug 95 07:32:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfT9u-00038IC; Mon, 7 Aug 95 07:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "W. Weia (zeus)" Subject: Re: Pine for AIX Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 15:40:35 +0200 Message-Id: References: <3vb28r$6f2@manaslu.mos.com.np> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3vb28r$6f2@manaslu.mos.com.np> ftp://forte.mathematik.uni-bremen.de/pub/unix/mailing/pine-3.91.tar.gz From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 7 09:16:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05470; Mon, 7 Aug 95 09:16:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12464; Mon, 7 Aug 95 09:01:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giga.sct.ub.es by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12458; Mon, 7 Aug 95 09:01:43 -0700 Received: (from yves@localhost) by giga.sct.ub.es (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA32096; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 18:24:23 GMT Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 18:24:23 +0000 From: Yves Maniette Subject: screen editor bug? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Alex del Giorgio , Pau Gorostiza Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear all, I am having sometimes some difficulties with pine, due to, apparently screen editor problems. What is most surprising is that the problem is rather erratic... I am trying to explain the symptoms: - on MAIN screen, if one tries to move with up-down arrow, the screen text goes up one line each time. Hence I end up not knowing where I am. the problem can be cured a bit, by typing L (for example) and then M again, to get back a nearly neat main screen. But anyway, when arriving in the main, it lacks the last line containing the short commands (Send, Justify...) - In the same way, the messages cannot be read clearly, because they are printed on the screen up to the end, and then I can't get back to the top (I get the message "already at start of message") I would like to know if you already experienced this kind of bug, and what can be done in order to fix it. What I less understand is that the bug is erratic, and that it happens on several computers (I guess all) in the center. (we have a Unix station, to which are connected the PCs. It seems that the problem only arises when working from the PCs). Sincerely, ------------- Yves MANIETTE tel (34 3) 402 1695 fax (34 3) 402 1398 Unitat ESCA-TEM Serveis Cientifico-Tecnics Universitat de Barcelona Carrer Lluis Sole i Sabaris 08028 BARCELONA Espana From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 7 09:31:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06080; Mon, 7 Aug 95 09:31:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12580; Mon, 7 Aug 95 09:22:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12574; Mon, 7 Aug 95 09:22:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfUsp-00038IC; Mon, 7 Aug 95 09:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vecsey@course3.harvard.edu (Lester Vecsey) Subject: VT100/ANSi Colors - Extended ASCII Date: 7 Aug 1995 15:36:42 GMT Message-Id: <405bua$2gj@decaxp.harvard.edu> How about implementing some color schemes in an uncoming release of PINE? Also, what about Extended ASCII characters? I know they display fine through dial-ins (modem), but I have yet to find a telnet program that displays 8bit characters... -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 7 09:47:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06965; Mon, 7 Aug 95 09:47:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13554; Mon, 7 Aug 95 09:42:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13548; Mon, 7 Aug 95 09:42:38 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id MAA14319; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 12:36:52 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id MAA04841; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 12:36:50 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA11671; Mon, 7 Aug 95 12:35:29 EDT Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 12:35:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Yves Maniette Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Alex del Giorgio , Pau Gorostiza Subject: Re: screen editor bug? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 7 Aug 1995, Yves Maniette wrote: > > Dear all, > > I am having sometimes some difficulties with pine, due to, apparently > screen editor problems. What is most surprising is that the problem is > rather erratic... > > > I would like to know if you already experienced this kind of bug, and > what can be done in order to fix it. What I less understand is that the > bug is erratic, and that it happens on several computers (I guess all) in > the center. > > (we have a Unix station, to which are connected the PCs. It seems that > the problem only arises when working from the PCs). > Yves, I had a similar problem with my communications software. I fixed this by disabling the status and menu lines. Pine uses 24 lines. Because my communications software was using two lines for status and menu, I had only 23 lines for Pine and the display jumped back and forth as I scrolled. What software are you using to connect to the Unix server? Is it giving you at least 24 lines for your remote session? Good luck, Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 7 12:12:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12939; Mon, 7 Aug 95 12:12:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16693; Mon, 7 Aug 95 12:08:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16685; Mon, 7 Aug 95 12:08:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfXTT-00038IC; Mon, 7 Aug 95 12:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dickens@jeff.ibg.ljo.dec.com (Jeff Dickens) Subject: another PINE & Eudora question Date: 7 Aug 1995 18:08:41 GMT Message-Id: <405kr9$2vh@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> Hi. Eudora says that they are "compatible with UNIX mail and .mailrc files". But I find that in a Eudora .mbx file, messages are separated by "", where in Unix (PINE) files messages are separated by "". Consequently, PINE can't read mail files created by Eudora. I found that if I just strip out the extra s it works fine. Is there any way to change PINE's idea of what the inter-message seperator should be ? Thanks in advance, -Jeff From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 7 15:36:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23056; Mon, 7 Aug 95 15:36:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21784; Mon, 7 Aug 95 15:33:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21777; Mon, 7 Aug 95 15:33:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfagx-00038IC; Mon, 7 Aug 95 15:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: xxs@epsilon.com (Xiaobo Shao) Subject: block or bounce Message-Id: Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 21:13:57 GMT How to set pine to block /bouce back mail from a specific address? Thanks! xiaobo -- Xiaobo Shao what i said is what I said From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 7 16:37:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26561; Mon, 7 Aug 95 16:37:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24958; Mon, 7 Aug 95 16:33:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24952; Mon, 7 Aug 95 16:33:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfbev-00038LC; Mon, 7 Aug 95 16:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tknab@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Terry Knab) Subject: Re: forwarding?!help Date: 7 Aug 1995 17:10:05 -0600 Message-Id: <4066gd$n8b@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: <4053ha$7ju@insosf1.netins.net> Warren/Andy Smith (smitha@worf.netins.net) wrote: : How can you get pine to forward incoming mail from one server to a : differant address... : - Andy SMith In Unix, create a file with a name of .forward with the address you want it to go to as the only line, in VAX its set forward """
""" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 7 17:20:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29003; Mon, 7 Aug 95 17:20:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25269; Mon, 7 Aug 95 17:15:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25263; Mon, 7 Aug 95 17:15:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfcHw-00038BC; Mon, 7 Aug 95 17:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stprabhu@newstand.syr.edu () Subject: How can I parse a mail ? Date: 7 Aug 1995 23:50:15 GMT Message-Id: <4068rn$cfs@newstand.syr.edu> Hi, I am trying to write an email server, and need to parse the header info. I tried looking into the RFC822 specs, but I figured that there must be some code lying around considering the number of server programs. If any of you could please drect me to some source for the code, or email me a rudimentary parser I would greatly appreciate yor help. Thanks Shashi Please email the replies to me. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 7 21:28:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04847; Mon, 7 Aug 95 21:28:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00857; Mon, 7 Aug 95 21:26:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00851; Mon, 7 Aug 95 21:26:31 -0700 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id WAA17567 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 22:26:25 -0600 Received: (from maldridg@localhost) by gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA62620; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 22:26:25 -0600 Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 22:26:24 -0600 (MDT) From: Lea Andrellan X-Sender: maldridg@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: DOS 4.xx communications? In-Reply-To: <3voqk4$o6@grape.epix.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 2 Aug 1995, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: > I also have a 286 with a 2400 modem and it works just fine (but of course > ssllloooooowww) using Windows Terminal v3.0 as the communication software. > You have to run through the (S)ettings menu first. Hope this helps. > E-mail me or followup post if any problems getting it working. ... PS > this post is NOT made with that, I only use the antique computer when the > kid has this one tied up. G'Day. Just a note: I won't disagree with the idea of using Windows Terminal ( or any other comm software designed to run under Windows); the reason I didn't suggest any Windows-driven software, though, is because through working at the Helpdesk here I've seen many many clients experience problems of various shapes and sizes when running standard vt100 comm software under Windows (including Windows Terminal), and in 90% of cases, shutting down Windows and running the comm software from the DOS prompt eliminated the problem. This is not to say that I haven't also seen some clients running vt100 comm software successfully in a Windows environment, just that the number who had problems is significantly high. Windows 3.1 does not seem to handle communications well in a fairly wide variety of circumstances. Lea From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 06:56:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17035; Tue, 8 Aug 95 06:56:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08397; Tue, 8 Aug 95 06:50:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08391; Tue, 8 Aug 95 06:50:39 -0700 Received: by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA16418; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 09:48:50 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 09:48:49 -0400 (EDT) From: BRENT WAYNE BEASLEY To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: readonly Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 255 I was reading a file and accidently hit ALT-C. The next thing I knew my INBOX had (READONLY) beside it, and when I quit and restarted pine, it said something about a lock. Now I can't delete any files in my inbox. What happened and how do I fix it? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 08:16:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19302; Tue, 8 Aug 95 08:16:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05872; Tue, 8 Aug 95 08:11:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dmog10.bell.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05866; Tue, 8 Aug 95 08:11:44 -0700 Received: from dmoc61.on.bell.ca by dmog10.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA29380; Tue, 8 Aug 95 11:11:37 -0400 Received: from huhc06.ON.Bell.Ca by dmoc61.on.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA29967; Tue, 8 Aug 95 11:11:33 -0400 Received: by huhc06 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19251; Tue, 8 Aug 95 11:11:35 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 11:11:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Violette" Reply-To: jviolett@on.bell.ca To: Pine Info Subject: Function keys in xterm don't work Message-Id: Organization: Bell Canada Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have Pine 3.91 running in an HP-UX 9.01 xterm, and if I invoke pine -k, I get the function key menu at the bottom but when I press any function key I get a '[Command "D" not defined for this screen. Use F1 for help]' error in the status line. Do I need a special X Resource file for this to work so that the function keys are mapped and if so does anybody out there have such a file. Thanks. -- | John R. Violette | Software Development | | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 08:59:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20946; Tue, 8 Aug 95 08:59:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10764; Tue, 8 Aug 95 08:55:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10758; Tue, 8 Aug 95 08:55:00 -0700 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id JAA01549 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 09:54:54 -0600 Received: from gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (maldridg@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.12]) by gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA45370 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 09:54:52 -0600 Received: by gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9) id JAA40133; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 09:54:52 -0600 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 09:54:52 -0600 (MDT) From: Lea Andrellan X-Sender: maldridg@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: forwarding?!help In-Reply-To: <4053ha$7ju@insosf1.netins.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 7 Aug 1995, Warren/Andy Smith wrote: > How can you get pine to forward incoming mail from one server to a > differant address... If you're on a Unix machine, this needs to be set at your home directory, not from Pine... Create a file in your home directory called .forward . Contents should consist of a single line, that line being the complete e-mail address of where you want to forward your mail... Save the file; your incoming mail should then be forwarded to the new location... NOTE: If your system uses AFS, the following commands need to be issued at the system prompt: cd ~yourid /usr/afsws/bin/fs sa . system:anyuser rl Lea From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 10:08:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24107; Tue, 8 Aug 95 10:08:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12354; Tue, 8 Aug 95 10:04:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giga.sct.ub.es by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12344; Tue, 8 Aug 95 10:04:41 -0700 Received: (from yves@localhost) by giga.sct.ub.es (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA00213; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 19:26:59 GMT Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 19:26:59 +0000 From: Yves Maniette Subject: Re: screen editor bug? To: Don Sugarman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Alex del Giorgio Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Yves, > I had a similar problem with my communications software. I fixed this by > disabling the status and menu lines. > > Pine uses 24 lines. Because my communications software was using two > lines for status and menu, I had only 23 lines for Pine and the display > jumped back and forth as I scrolled. my screen does have 25 lines, one being used by the system. therfore it does remain 24 lines for pine. right now it works perfectly, but this morning it did not. I am getting crazy... > > What software are you using to connect to the Unix server? Is it giving > you at least 24 lines for your remote session? I am calling a program called ethdrv to load the ethernet driver then I can type telnet myhost. Yes I do have 24 lines, so I feel the bug is hidden somewhere else. Thank you for your help anyway Yves MANIETTE From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 12:15:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00714; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:15:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15670; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:13:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15664; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:13:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfu3k-00038BC; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ujmf@sunyit.edu (Jon M. Feduccia) Subject: Compiling PINE Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 18:42:42 GMT I have downloaded the most recent version of PINE, and cannot get this program to compile. I am trying to compile on a Sparc 10 running Solaris 2.4. I have tried using the "makefile.sol" and "makefile.sv4" with no luck. The errors I keep seeing are identifier redeclared in "stdlib.h" and "unistd.h". I also noticed that in the makefile.sol that it doesn't use the c compiler that came with solaris. Are there any known compilation problems with solaris??? P.S. pico, imapd, and mtest all compiled fine. Thankyou, ujmf@sunyit.edu feducciaj@rl.af.mil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 12:17:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00772; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:17:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15702; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:14:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15696; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:14:09 -0700 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0sfu8J-000sCFC; Tue, 8 Aug 95 21:16 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Tue, 8 Aug 95 21:13 MESZ Received: from paddington (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paddington (8.7.Beta.11/8.7.Beta.11) with SMTP id VAA00903; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 21:13:28 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 21:13:21 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Joswig X-Sender: michaelj@paddington Reply-To: michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE To: Yves Maniette Cc: Don Sugarman , pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Alex del Giorgio Subject: Re: screen editor bug? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yves, sorry, I didn't recall your first message, but do you use your telnet in a window? If so: Do you have a slider at one side for scrolling? I've had such a combination on a Sun and the slider interacted with PINE. In some sessions I had this problem. Now I'm using a window without a slider and all is well Ciao, Michael Joswig On Tue, 8 Aug 1995, Yves Maniette wrote: > > > > Yves, > > I had a similar problem with my communications software. I fixed this by > > disabling the status and menu lines. > > > > Pine uses 24 lines. Because my communications software was using two > > lines for status and menu, I had only 23 lines for Pine and the display > > jumped back and forth as I scrolled. > > my screen does have 25 lines, one being used by the system. therfore it > does remain 24 lines for pine. right now it works perfectly, but this > morning it did not. I am getting crazy... > > > > > What software are you using to connect to the Unix server? Is it giving > > you at least 24 lines for your remote session? > > I am calling a program called ethdrv to load the ethernet driver then I > can type telnet myhost. Yes I do have 24 lines, so I feel the bug is > hidden somewhere else. > > Thank you for your help anyway > > Yves MANIETTE > > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE Tel. (040) 651 56 25 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 12:35:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01523; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:35:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11044; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:31:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11038; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:31:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfuMN-00038BC; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rgm@thorin.hw.stratus.com (Richard Meitzler) Subject: PC-Pine - Packet Drivers communication problems Date: 8 Aug 1995 19:09:57 GMT Message-Id: <408cq5$atl@transfer.stratus.com> Hi, I am having some problems with getting PC-Pine to work correctly with the packet drivers. I am trying to use the 'slipper' slip driver. I got the connection working correctly because I can use the NCSA telnet software and talk to whoever I want to, but I can not get PC-Pine to work correctly with it. I verified that the imap server is working correctly because I tried running pine from Linux (on the same system) and it worked just fine. Heres what I did and what happened. I set my CONFIGTEL environment variable to point to my config.tel file that came with the NCSA telnet stuff. I ran PC-Pine. It comes up into the main menu and asks for a INBOX to open. I type in '{my_remote_system}/usr/spool/mail/MAILBOX'. When I hit enter on this (and answer the question if I want it in the pinerc file), the transmit light on the modem comes on almost continuous, and a few blinks come back (via the recieve light), and it sits this way forever. It never succeds in opening the mailbox, and I have to reboot to try again. (can not ^C or ^BREAK out of it). Does anyone have any suggestions on where to go from here? Am I doing something wrong?? Any responses would be greatly appreciated, either via email or via this news group. Thanks, Rick -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Richard Meitzler, Stratus Computer, Marlboro, MA rgm@hw.stratus.com -or- Richard_Meitzler@vos.stratus.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 12:51:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02026; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:51:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16376; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:46:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16370; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:46:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfuZv-00038BC; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: badwine@netcom.com (Ken Malvino) Subject: uploading to pine Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 19:05:27 GMT I have a question that I can not figure out. I have a shell account with netcom. I am trying to upload a file from my computer to my directory at netcom. I don't know how to do this funtion. Please help. Email directly to badwine@netcom.com TIA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 12:55:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02138; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:55:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11406; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:51:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11400; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:51:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfuem-00038BC; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kraemer@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (Marcus Kraemer) Subject: Re: PINE and POP3 question Date: 8 Aug 1995 16:15:41 GMT Message-Id: <4082jd$ku2@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> References: <3vcts7$6dg@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> <3vmp33$n6s@news.midland.co.nz> Jonathan Pyne (jpyne@midland.co.nz) wrote: : Marcus Kraemer (kraemer@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE) wrote: : > Hi! : > I am using Eudora for Windows 1.4.4 at home and PINE 3.91 on my mainframe : > account. When being at home I read my mail on the mainframe account using the : > POP3 protocol. How do I configure PINE that mail, read using Eudora is no : > longer listed as new? What I do not want is to delete the mail on the server : > (i.e. mainframe account). : > Thanks for your help, : > Marcus : I have the same kind of setup here at work. I know there is an option under : the special/switches menu called "Leave mail on sever" - this should stop : Eudora from deleting the mail as it retrieves it. : later : Jonathan : Thanks for the answer, but this is not what I want. I have set the switch to leave read mail on the server. But the mail is not marked as already read. It is still listed as new -> next time I use Eudora it downloads the "new" mails again... Marcus =========================================================================== Marcus Kraemer kraemer@uni-mainz.de Am blauen Garten 21 55246 Mainz-Kostheim Germany PGP 2.6 public key: finger kraemer@vzdmzy.zdv.uni-mainz.de phone: +49-6134-23537 http://www.uni-mainz.de/~kraemer/homepage.html =========================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 12:59:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02379; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:59:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16612; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:58:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16606; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:58:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfukH-00038BC; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vpilarin@unix.gsusa.org (Vasilios L. Pilarinos) Subject: Re: DOS 4.xx communications? Date: 8 Aug 1995 16:29:42 GMT Message-Id: <4083dm$t4h@news2.noc.netcom.net> References: ...( rfonger@times.net ) wrote: [rf] We have a staffer with an old 286 640k at home who wants to be able [rf] to get his pine mail from our Unix box at work. Does anyone know of [rf] shareware or freeware he can use for communications? You can find many different communication software that _should_ run on that kind of setup. Off the top of my head, you might try looking for it at any simtel mirrored site. ftp:oak.oakland.edu/pub/simtel/msdos/telix/tlx322-*.zip /qmodem/qm46td-*.zip I have gotten both these software to work with my 286/10 at home with 1 meg of RAM. Hope this helps. Let us know how it worked out. -- Vasilios L. Pilarinos -- Network Administrator, Girl Scouts of the USA. E-mail: vpilarin@unix.gsusa.org, vpilarin@gsusa.org Voice: 1-212-852-6581 ---( All opinions are my own. )----( http://www.gsusa.org/~vpilarin/ )--- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 16:55:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12523; Tue, 8 Aug 95 16:55:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16246; Tue, 8 Aug 95 16:50:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16240; Tue, 8 Aug 95 16:50:55 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 9 Aug 95 07:48:43 +0800 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 07:48:42 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "Jon M. Feduccia" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Compiling PINE In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 8 Aug 1995, Jon M. Feduccia wrote: > I have downloaded the most recent version of PINE, and cannot get this > program to compile. I am trying to compile on a Sparc 10 running Solaris > 2.4. I have tried using the "makefile.sol" and "makefile.sv4" with no luck. > The errors I keep seeing are identifier redeclared in "stdlib.h" and > "unistd.h". I also noticed that in the makefile.sol that it doesn't use > the c compiler that came with solaris. Are there any known compilation > problems with solaris??? > > P.S. pico, imapd, and mtest all compiled fine. I've compiled on Solaris 2.4. You should check/do the following: 1. Ensure that /usr/opt/SUNWspro/bin appears in your path before /usr/ucb. 2. Ensure that the LD_LIBRARY_PATH does *not* included /usr/ucb/lib. 3. In the makefile.sol in pine add -Dconst= to the CFLAGS definition. 4. Then do the build. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 17:46:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14425; Tue, 8 Aug 95 17:46:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17134; Tue, 8 Aug 95 17:42:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ucsu.Colorado.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17128; Tue, 8 Aug 95 17:42:37 -0700 Received: (from tvelasco@localhost) by ucsu.colorado.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12/CNS-3.6) id SAA17126; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 18:42:34 -0600 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 18:42:34 -0600 (MDT) From: VELASCO ARNEZ TITO To: Pine-info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 17:54:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14759; Tue, 8 Aug 95 17:54:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23597; Tue, 8 Aug 95 17:52:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23591; Tue, 8 Aug 95 17:52:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfzKz-00038BC; Tue, 8 Aug 95 17:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tknab@nyx.cs.du.edu (Terry Knab) Subject: Re: Compiling PINE Date: 8 Aug 1995 18:09:54 -0600 Message-Id: <408uci$jq0@nyx.cs.du.edu> References: Jon M. Feduccia (ujmf@sunyit.edu) wrote: : I have downloaded the most recent version of PINE, and cannot get this : program to compile. I am trying to compile on a Sparc 10 running Solaris : 2.4. I have tried using the "makefile.sol" and "makefile.sv4" with no luck. : The errors I keep seeing are identifier redeclared in "stdlib.h" and : "unistd.h". I also noticed that in the makefile.sol that it doesn't use : the c compiler that came with solaris. Are there any known compilation : problems with solaris??? Have you tried to use the GCC compiler?? Terry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 18:32:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15872; Tue, 8 Aug 95 18:32:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17739; Tue, 8 Aug 95 18:28:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17733; Tue, 8 Aug 95 18:28:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfzt4-00038BC; Tue, 8 Aug 95 18:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Vayser Subject: Re: Add Reply-To: header in 3.89?? Date: 9 Aug 1995 00:53:51 GMT Message-Id: <4090uv$b84@frodo.smartlink.net> References: <3vsfb6$csj@giga.bga.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller) wrote: > >Pine 3.89 didn't have any way to add a Reply-To: or other custom >headers. >The current Pine 3.91 release does... I figured out how to do it - by adding the value to customized headers, but is there any way to make the value of the reply-to header default, so I don't have to add my address to that field every time. TIA Mike Vayser -- Migre.v Shine on...--------------------... migre.v@vayser.com http://smartdocs.com/~migre.v migre.v@smartlink.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 18:50:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16245; Tue, 8 Aug 95 18:50:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24466; Tue, 8 Aug 95 18:47:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24460; Tue, 8 Aug 95 18:47:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sg0D5-00038EC; Tue, 8 Aug 95 18:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wolfe@teleport.com ("Alpine" and BarbaraW) Subject: error in pine? Date: 8 Aug 1995 18:37:55 -0700 Message-Id: <4093hj$bc6@linda.teleport.com> I was mailing out mail to a bunch of folks in one letter and got a message that said; sh: bus error ANyone know what that means and if the mail got thru, at my end here it gave every indication it was successful, but... -- Dog welfare page; http://www.teleport.com/~wolfe/dog.welfare.html St Bernard web page; http://www.teleport.com/~wolfe/saints/stbernard.html +=)=============- Computer services and Web page construction -===========(=+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 19:23:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17013; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:23:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25010; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:20:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from galadriel.dfw.wa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25004; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:19:59 -0700 Received: from galadriel (localhost.dfw.wa.gov) by galadriel.dfw.wa.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11164; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:20:20 PDT Message-Id: <9508090220.AA11164@galadriel.dfw.wa.gov> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 95 19:20:20 -0700 From: Kathleen House X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: DOS attachments in Unix Pine X-Url: http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/pine-info/95.01/msg00698.html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Can DOS documents be attached directly to Pine email's in Unix? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 19:25:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17066; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:25:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25052; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:24:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from galadriel.dfw.wa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25046; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:23:58 -0700 Received: by galadriel.dfw.wa.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13094; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:24:26 PDT Date: Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:24:26 PDT From: housekmh@dfw.wa.gov (Kathleen House) Message-Id: <9508090224.AA13094@galadriel.dfw.wa.gov> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: DOS attachments to Unix Pine email messages Can DOS ASCII documents be attached directly to email messages sent via Pine from Unix? Or must all attachments be on Unix (via ftp, Kermit, etc) before they can be sent? Any help is greatly appreciated. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 19:28:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17127; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:28:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25074; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:26:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from galadriel.dfw.wa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25068; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:26:10 -0700 Received: by galadriel.dfw.wa.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14122; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:26:38 PDT Date: Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:26:38 PDT From: housekmh@dfw.wa.gov (Kathleen House) Message-Id: <9508090226.AA14122@galadriel.dfw.wa.gov> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: DOS attachments to Pine Hi, I just sent the message about attaching DOS documents to email messages, but forgot to include my name and address. Here it is: Kathleen House housekmh@dfw.wa.gov Thanks again! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 19:47:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17648; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:47:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25437; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:45:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from galadriel.dfw.wa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25431; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:45:41 -0700 Received: by galadriel.dfw.wa.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23324; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:46:08 PDT Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 19:46:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Kathleen House X-Sender: housekmh@galadriel To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: DOS attachments Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can DOS ASCII documents be attached directly to email messages sent via Pine from Unix? Or must all attachments be on Unix (via ftp, Kermit, etc) before they can be sent? Any help is greatly appreciated. Kathleen House housekmh@dfw.wa.gov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 20:36:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18517; Tue, 8 Aug 95 20:36:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19246; Tue, 8 Aug 95 20:32:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19240; Tue, 8 Aug 95 20:32:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sg1q5-00038BC; Tue, 8 Aug 95 20:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Clark Subject: Questions about .forward Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 22:19:00 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi 1. I have setup .forward with receiving address, but mail is not forwarded. 2. Playing around with procmail and .forward to sort messages (as described in FAQs) also does not work. My mail seems to disappear. Any obvious (or not so obvious) suggestions? I'm on Alpha with OSF/1 using Pine as mail program. I believe PMDF (?) is earlier part of mail delivery. Thanks Jim **************************************************************************** James M. Clark (204) 786-9313 Department of Psychology (204) 786-1824 Fax University of Winnipeg clark@uwinnipeg.ca Winnipeg, Manitoba R3B 2E9 4L02A CANADA **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 22:43:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21232; Tue, 8 Aug 95 22:43:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28029; Tue, 8 Aug 95 22:38:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28023; Tue, 8 Aug 95 22:38:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sg3pe-00038EC; Tue, 8 Aug 95 22:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jernegan@case.cyberspace.com (Jeff L Jernegan) Subject: mailing lists Date: 8 Aug 1995 22:10:15 -0700 Message-Id: <409fvn$j6t@case.cyberspace.com> I've been lurking watching for an answer to an oft-asked question: How do you import a list of internet addresses into a Pine Addressbook "distribution list" without retyping them all? Come on, _SOMEONE_ must have the answer...! Thanks! ------------- Jeff Jernegan ------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 00:32:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23285; Wed, 9 Aug 95 00:32:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21745; Wed, 9 Aug 95 00:08:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21739; Wed, 9 Aug 95 00:08:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sg5Ev-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 00:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ferry Winarta Subject: IMAPD on SCO3.2v4.2 Date: 8 Aug 1995 23:10:34 GMT Message-Id: <408qta$2ar@mippet.ci.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've just tried to use PC pine to connect to my mail server (which use PINE 3.91). It failed to login, with message BAD Login. When I tried to use root as username, it works fine. My mail server using sendmail (instead of mmdf) and C2 security features from SCO. I wonder whether these cause the problem. I try to use either root and NOLUID in /etc/inetd.conf for imapd, and try to use different combinations of owner and group for imapd. Is there anyone could give me any suggestions or know where I could find any FAQ for imapd. Thanks and Regards Ferry Winarta From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 01:16:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24752; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:16:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00262; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:12:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00256; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:12:04 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 9 Aug 1995 09:11:14 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA01346; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 09:12:01 +0100 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 09:12:00 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk To: Alpine and BarbaraW Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: error in pine? In-Reply-To: <4093hj$bc6@linda.teleport.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It means your computer is using a broken version of the "sendmail" system program, and should get the latest version. The background... A(nother) security hole was discovered in the "sendmail" mail delivery system and a fixed version was released. Unfortunately it broke another area, causing sendmail (not Pine) to core dump when sending to more than a number of people (I think it was 20-ish). The problem is fixed in the 8.6.12 release of sendmail. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 8 Aug 1995, Alpine and BarbaraW wrote: > I was mailing out mail to a bunch of folks in one letter and got a > message that said; > > sh: bus error > > ANyone know what that means and if the mail got thru, at my end here it > gave every indication it was successful, but... > -- > Dog welfare page; http://www.teleport.com/~wolfe/dog.welfare.html > St Bernard web page; http://www.teleport.com/~wolfe/saints/stbernard.html > +=)=============- Computer services and Web page construction -===========(=+ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 01:23:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24910; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:23:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22506; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:18:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22500; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:18:33 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 9 Aug 1995 09:17:34 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA01717; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 09:18:20 +0100 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 09:18:20 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk To: Kathleen House Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: DOS attachments to Unix Pine email messages In-Reply-To: <9508090224.AA13094@galadriel.dfw.wa.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pause and think carefully for a moment ... [I'm assuming you're using the UNIX version of Pine by running a terminal emulator on your micro to connect to and login to a UNIX computer..] You are logged in to UNIX, using UNIX commands, using files stored on the UNIX computer's disk. Forgetting about Pine for a moment, can you see any of the files on your micro's own hard disk directly from UNIX? Or do you have to transfer (Kermit/whatever) them to UNIX first? If you can't "see" your micro's own files from UNIX (and, unless you're running some really funny setup you won't be able to) then Pine (which is just another UNIX program) won't be able to see them either. So in order to attach a file to a message sent using *UNIX* Pine does indeed require the file to be accessible (usually stored on) the UNIX computer. If you use the PC a lot you may like to think about getting hold over the PC/Windows version of Pine to use instead? (Saves logging in to UNIX and *can* then send PC files (as it's running on the PC). Can also send UNIX files if (and only if) the UNIX filestore is mounted (perhaps over PC-NFS or equivalent) on the PC.) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 8 Aug 1995, Kathleen House wrote: > Can DOS ASCII documents be attached directly to email messages sent via > Pine from Unix? Or must all attachments be on Unix (via ftp, Kermit, etc) > before they can be sent? > Any help is greatly appreciated. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 01:31:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25435; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:31:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00496; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:28:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00490; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:28:24 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 9 Aug 1995 09:27:32 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA02258; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 09:28:18 +0100 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 09:28:18 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk To: Jeff L Jernegan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: mailing lists In-Reply-To: <409fvn$j6t@case.cyberspace.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I did it by using Pine to create a minimal addressbook containing a couple of single entries, and a couple of distribution list entries. Then I looked at the resulting ".addressbook" file in my UNIX home directory and guessed the format of the file. (It is *very* straightforward!) Then, because I only had relatively few addresses in my previous mail utility's list, took a copy of the file and edited it into the right form. For more I'd have probably knocked up a little script to do it. You don't say what mailer your previous address book is for, but if it's Elm then there is already a conversion script available called something like "elm2pine". (Perhaps someone can say where to find it? I did a quick check of ftp.cac.washington.edu, but couldn't spot it) There's also a shell script within the Pine distribution for converting .mailrc addresses into a Pine addressbook: contrib/utils/brk2pine.sh Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 8 Aug 1995, Jeff L Jernegan wrote: > I've been lurking watching for an answer to an oft-asked question: > > How do you import a list of internet addresses into a Pine Addressbook > "distribution list" without retyping them all? > > Come on, _SOMEONE_ must have the answer...! > > Thanks! > > ------------- > Jeff Jernegan > ------------- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 01:59:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25829; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:59:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AB00857; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:49:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00851; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:49:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sg6ml-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dyrdal@uci.agh.edu.pl (Krzysztof Dyrdal) Subject: PINE and PGP - possible ?? Date: 9 Aug 1995 10:38:56 +0200 Message-Id: <409s70$cjt@galaxy.uci.agh.edu.pl> Hi, Is there any easy trick to combine (automatic use) pine ond PGP encryption-decyuption of messages (pipe or sth else) ??? If anybody managed to use it in such a way - please - any suggestion would be appreciated. Chris From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 04:41:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29853; Wed, 9 Aug 95 04:41:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24751; Wed, 9 Aug 95 04:35:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24745; Wed, 9 Aug 95 04:35:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sg9K9-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 04:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: farrache@cc.in2p3.fr (Gilles Farrache) Subject: Any FAQ about Pine ? Date: 9 Aug 1995 11:15:28 GMT Message-Id: <40a5cg$4vn@ccpnws.in2p3.fr> is there a FAQ about Pine ? And if where is it possible to retrieve it ? Gilles Farrache From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 05:03:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00740; Wed, 9 Aug 95 05:03:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03502; Wed, 9 Aug 95 04:59:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03496; Wed, 9 Aug 95 04:59:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sg9ks-00038EC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 04:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Shell escape problem Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 12:47:06 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I normally access pine via telnet to a SUN unix system, which is in the middle of a Solaris1 (4.1.3) to Solaris2 (2.3) conversion. I have just converted myself to logging on to the Solaris 2 side, and have noticed a problem with shell escape (^-Z). The escape itself usually works fine, and I can happily obey commands, but when exiting the escape (using the fg command) Pine exits back to the shell prompt. A little while later a message appears:- Pine finished. Error reading from terminal: I/O error (Sometimes, just trying to escape with ^-Z causes pine to drop out, and this time there is no "explanatory" message). I suspect that one of the stty settings may be wrong, though they are the same as for the Solaris 1 system, where shell escape works fine. Any advice? The stty settings are:- speed 38400 baud; -parity swtch = ; brkint -inpck -istrip icrnl -ixany imaxbel onlcr tab3 echo echoe echok echoctl echoke iexten ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 06:35:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02501; Wed, 9 Aug 95 06:35:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25886; Wed, 9 Aug 95 06:29:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25880; Wed, 9 Aug 95 06:29:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgB9j-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 06:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cdh@worf.MR.Net (Chris D. Halverson) Subject: Multiple personal names? Date: 08 Aug 1995 10:43:17 -0500 Message-Id: Is it possible to have more than one personal name (not the correct term?) so that the "+" will show in the Index if it's to me, but not my "real" email address? For example, my login name is cdh, but my published address for our company (and what is on my business cards) is chalverson. I also have chrish, halverson, etc. I would like Pine to be able to recognize those addresses as coming to me so that the "+" would show in the index (and so it would not ask if I want to reply to all recipients). Is this possible? If so, how? Thanks for any responses. Chris From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 07:29:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04864; Wed, 9 Aug 95 07:29:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05627; Wed, 9 Aug 95 07:24:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05621; Wed, 9 Aug 95 07:24:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgC0J-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 07:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynch.94@OSU.EDU (Jerry Lynch) Subject: TO: in FROM line not for newsgroups? Date: 9 Aug 1995 09:59:20 -0400 Message-Id: I like the feature of pine that mail with your FROM address is listed as "TO: user@address". This is especially helpful in the "sent-mail" folder. However, this does not seem to work for news posts? Is there a way to have a similar feature where posts would look like "TO: newsgroup"? Thanks. Jerry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 10:17:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12336; Wed, 9 Aug 95 10:17:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29991; Wed, 9 Aug 95 10:14:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29985; Wed, 9 Aug 95 10:14:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgEgg-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 10:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Pritchard Subject: Compiling PINE on BSDI Date: 9 Aug 1995 17:10:36 GMT Message-Id: <40aq6c$emn@insosf1.netins.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am attempting to build PINE on my BSDI box. I tried it on two different versions and received this same error. Could you help me out? Thanks Making Pine. rm -f os.h ln -s osdep/os-bsd.h os.h /cmplhlp2.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.h cc -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"BSD\" -c addrbook.c In file included from headers.h:72, from addrbook.c:65: os.h:200: conflicting types for `fpos_t' /usr/include/stdio.h:74: previous declaration of `fpos_t' *** Error code 1 Stop. Links to executables are in bin directory: size: bin/pine: No such file or directory text data bss dec hex 348160 16384 34432 398976 61680 bin/mtest 360448 16384 41620 418452 66294 bin/imapd 188416 12288 7780 208484 32e64 bin/pico Done # -- John Pritchard Catalyst Solutions pritchj@siouxlan.com http://www.siouxlan.com 712-258-2771 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 10:37:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12967; Wed, 9 Aug 95 10:37:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10080; Wed, 9 Aug 95 10:35:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dmog10.bell.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10074; Wed, 9 Aug 95 10:35:12 -0700 Received: from dmoc61.on.bell.ca by dmog10.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA25297; Wed, 9 Aug 95 13:34:50 -0400 Received: from huhc06.ON.Bell.Ca by dmoc61.on.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA23948; Wed, 9 Aug 95 13:34:41 -0400 Received: by huhc06 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA01497; Wed, 9 Aug 95 13:34:39 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 11:11:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Violette" Reply-To: jviolett@on.bell.ca To: Pine Info Subject: Function keys in xterm don't work Message-Id: Organization: Bell Canada Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 13:34:35 -0400 (EDT) Resent-From: "John R. Violette" Resent-To: Pine Info Resent-Message-Id: I have Pine 3.91 running in an HP-UX 9.01 xterm, and if I invoke pine -k, I get the function key menu at the bottom but when I press any function key I get a '[Command "D" not defined for this screen. Use F1 for help]' error in the status line. Do I need a special X Resource file for this to work so that the function keys are mapped and if so does anybody out there have such a file. Thanks. -- | John R. Violette | Software Development | | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 11:32:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15553; Wed, 9 Aug 95 11:32:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11413; Wed, 9 Aug 95 11:29:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dmog10.bell.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11407; Wed, 9 Aug 95 11:29:46 -0700 Received: from dmoc61.on.bell.ca by dmog10.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA26311; Wed, 9 Aug 95 14:29:36 -0400 Received: from huhc06.ON.Bell.Ca by dmoc61.on.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA24568; Wed, 9 Aug 95 14:29:33 -0400 Received: by huhc06 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA01659; Wed, 9 Aug 95 14:29:31 -0400 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 14:29:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Violette" Reply-To: jviolett@on.bell.ca To: Pine Info Subject: Pine, ispell integration Message-Id: Organization: Bell Canada Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If anybody is interested I have integrated ispell into Pine as the primary spell checker (CTRL-T) using the suggestion in the FAQ that to make ispell work you define your alternate editor as ispell and then use the CTRL-_ key binding to invoke the spell checker. What I did was strip down the function alt_editor() and call it ispell() and change the binding of CTRL-T to call ispell(). I then defined the SPELLER as isepll and took out a couple of things. So far it will only compile as ispell - you don't have a choice during the make between ispell and spell. Now you can have both an alternate editor and ispell and the user doesn't have to know how to invoke ispell. If there is enough interest I will make the diffs into a patch and post it somewhere (suggestions ?) for anyone else who wants it. BTW my system is HP-UX 9.01 7xx but it should work with any UNIX. It also works with the pico editor stand alone, as this is where the code was located. -- | John R. Violette | Software Development | | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 11:32:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15593; Wed, 9 Aug 95 11:32:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11422; Wed, 9 Aug 95 11:29:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11415; Wed, 9 Aug 95 11:29:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgFp5-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 11:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: iyan@valleynet.com (Iyan Reed) Subject: attachment problem Date: 8 Aug 1995 23:29:54 -0700 Message-Id: <409kl2$h7u@sierra.valleynet.com> Whenever I try to include an attachment with my mail I get this message when I try to send: [ERROR positioning in /usr/home/iyan/mail/att8.7.95 : Invalid argument] and my attachments never are.....attached! Any pine or unix experts out there have any idea to the remedy? Thanks mucho; iyan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 13:11:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20020; Wed, 9 Aug 95 13:11:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04070; Wed, 9 Aug 95 13:08:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04064; Wed, 9 Aug 95 13:08:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgHJ1-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 13:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: larry@austin.ibm.com () Subject: Re: Add Reply-To: header in 3.89?? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 19:09:28 GMT References: <3vsfb6$csj@giga.bga.com> <4090uv$b84@frodo.smartlink.net> This works for me: customized-hdrs=Reply-to:llb@getinc.com I just added the value on the RHS of the ":" and pine seems to read and parse it just fine. I've also added subsequent headers by using a "," with no spaces around it and no spaces in the header or default value. I don't haven't ever tried assigning default values that contain spaces. -- ==================== Austin LAN Security SWAT Team ==================== Larry L. Buickel | Any opinions expressed do not represent T/L 793-0944 | those of the IBM Corporation. IBM: larry@austin.ibm.com | << IBM Corporation From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 13:27:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20749; Wed, 9 Aug 95 13:27:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14273; Wed, 9 Aug 95 13:25:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14267; Wed, 9 Aug 95 13:25:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgHe3-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 13:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynch.94@osu.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: TO: in FROM line not for newsgroups? Date: 9 Aug 1995 13:59:44 -0400 Message-Id: I like the feature of pine that mail with your FROM address is listed as "TO: user@address". This is especially helpful in the "sent-mail" folder. However, this does not seem to work for news posts? Is there a way to have a similar feature where posts would look like "TO: newsgroup"? Thanks. Jerry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 14:49:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23866; Wed, 9 Aug 95 14:49:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05988; Wed, 9 Aug 95 14:46:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05982; Wed, 9 Aug 95 14:46:25 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08196; Wed, 9 Aug 95 14:46:21 -0700 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 14:46:14 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Chris D. Halverson" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Multiple personal names? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This will be available in Pine 3.92... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 8 Aug 1995, Chris D. Halverson wrote: > Date: 08 Aug 1995 10:43:17 -0500 > From: Chris D. Halverson > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Multiple personal names? > > Is it possible to have more than one personal name (not the correct > term?) so that the "+" will show in the Index if it's to me, but not > my "real" email address? For example, my login name is cdh, but my > published address for our company (and what is on my business cards) > is chalverson. I also have chrish, halverson, etc. I would like Pine > to be able to recognize those addresses as coming to me so that the > "+" would show in the index (and so it would not ask if I want to > reply to all recipients). > > Is this possible? If so, how? Thanks for any responses. > > Chris > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 15:04:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24573; Wed, 9 Aug 95 15:04:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06259; Wed, 9 Aug 95 15:00:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06253; Wed, 9 Aug 95 15:00:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgJ6p-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 14:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: prw1@cornell.edu (Paul R. Weber) Subject: HELP!! IDA sendmail and PINE/defuct processes Date: Wed, 09 Aug 1995 15:36:39 -0500 Message-Id: We are using IDA sendmail, dated 3/24/94 (I don't know the verion number), on an HP running 9.01. We have installed PINE 3.91 and pop/imap mail. Sendmail is creating, over time, a large number of defunct sendmail processes some how related to imapd. These processes fill the process table and kill the server. Does anyone have any idea how I can fix this problem. Right now I have a cron job killing and starting sendmail every 15 min. to clean out the process table. Thanks for your help! Paul R. Weber prw1@cornell.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 15:45:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26159; Wed, 9 Aug 95 15:45:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17436; Wed, 9 Aug 95 15:42:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from starbase1.htls.lib.il.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17428; Wed, 9 Aug 95 15:42:05 -0700 Received: (from wakko@localhost) by starbase1.htls.lib.il.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA16249; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 17:32:54 -0500 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 17:32:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Wakko Warner-System Administrator-AKA Ron Chesko To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: INN 1.4 and pine 3.91 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello All! I'm having a problem getting INN and Pine to work together. I think that I have everything set right but whenever I try to read my newsgroups thru pine I get either not articles exist (which I know they do thru using trn) or articles that say "no text..." (which I also know to be wrong thru trn). Any help would be greatly appreciated. System specs Sparc Solaris 2.4 w/recommended patches INN 1.4 with patches Pine 3.91 nntp-server=news.htls.lib.il.us <----this is my newsserver news-collections= <-----have tried multiple configs including: News *[*] News *{news.htls.lib.il.us/nntp}[*] and the default setting which is similar to above. TIA, Ron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Chesko, CNA *"cannot find the comfort in this world...victims in Decker at Large * demand for public show...a truant finds home, and * a wish to hold on to...coming up a which-way sign, * all good truants must decide...truants move on, * cannot stay long, some die just to live..." #include * -Pearl Jam "Immortality" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 18:19:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02732; Wed, 9 Aug 95 18:19:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10133; Wed, 9 Aug 95 18:15:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10127; Wed, 9 Aug 95 18:15:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgM9e-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 18:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: overlord@tao.kuai.se (Mattias Ahnberg) Subject: Questions!? Date: 10 Aug 1995 01:06:25 GMT Message-Id: <40bm2i$ibt@fizban.solace.mh.se> I have a couple of questions to ask concerning Pine. (I'm using v3.91) * Is there a FAQ available? If there is, where can it be found? * Is there some way you can make pine "sort out" messages from one or several adresses, and put them in a folder different than INBOX? Would be very handy when u're participating in several mailing lists and everything gets messed in the inbox. Thanks for your time, and I hope someone knows the answers to theese questions! -- [-AHNBERG-] Friendly Mailwriter From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 20:43:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05577; Wed, 9 Aug 95 20:43:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22702; Wed, 9 Aug 95 20:41:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22696; Wed, 9 Aug 95 20:41:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgOT9-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 20:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccurtis@ee.fit.edu (Christopher W. Curtis) Subject: Re: PINE: multiple recipients, but NOT all named? Message-Id: References: <3vtlca$deq@huron.eel.ufl.edu> <4034uq$cgq@newsreader.wustl.edu> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 21:32:37 GMT In <4034uq$cgq@newsreader.wustl.edu> ats@hubert.wustl.edu (Alan Shutko) writes: >Christopher W. Curtis (ccurtis@ee.fit.edu) wrote: >> In <3vtlca$deq@huron.eel.ufl.edu> dc@freenet.ufl.edu (David J. Campbell Jr.) writes: >> >can I use PINE to make a mailing list, in order to send the same Email to >> >multiple recipients withOUT the names of all the recipients appearing in >> >the To or Cc header? >> The method would be to send the mail to nobody or yourself, and then to >> Bcc it to the list. You can access Bcc in PINE by hitting -R in >> the message headers section. >You should always have at least one address (even invalid) in the To: or Cc: >headers. If you don't, sendmail will add Apparently-To: headers for >some number of the recipients. You don't see these headers in pine, >but you do in other mailer. Uhm, I thought that's what I said: To: nobody Cc: Bcc: (list) Sub: Nobody will be able to see each other -- T | Christopher Curtis | Those who would sacrifice | O E | Sun Lab System Administrator | liberty for security | S A | Florida Institute of Technology | deserve neither. | / M | Melbourne, Florida N|N -Benjamin Franklin | 2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 21:55:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06959; Wed, 9 Aug 95 21:55:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12564; Wed, 9 Aug 95 21:52:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12558; Wed, 9 Aug 95 21:52:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgPVv-00038EC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 21:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: IMAPD on SCO Open Server 3.2v4.2 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 21:25:55 -0700 Message-Id: References: <40beg2$md8@mippet.ci.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <40beg2$md8@mippet.ci.com.au> I am very confused by this report. imapd does not use the root password; in fact, it is impossible to log into imapd as root or any other UID 0 user name. In order for imapd to process logins, it must be run by inetd with the following access: 1) it must be able to read passwords (whether from /etc/passwd or from a shadow password file) 2) it must be able to execute the setuid() and setgid() calls. This usually means that imapd needs to be run as root by inetd. imapd will discard its root access as part of the login process, so there is no security problem by doing this. On 9 Aug 1995, Ferry Winarta wrote: > I try to use pc pine to connect to our mail server (using pine 3.91), via > imap2 port. > > It only works by using root password. > > We are using C2 security features from SCO. This will run imapd with > NOLUID (set in /etc/inetd.conf). > > Is there anybody ever set this up, or have any idea for me to be tried. > > Thanks and Best Regards > > ferryw > > NB: I've posted the same subjects yesterday, but I couldn't find it > today. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 23:04:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08083; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:04:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24542; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:01:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24536; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:01:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgQbs-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 22:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stanislav shalunov Subject: Re: PINE and PGP - possible ?? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 00:31:43 -0500 Message-Id: References: <409s70$cjt@galaxy.uci.agh.edu.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <409s70$cjt@galaxy.uci.agh.edu.pl> On 9 Aug 1995, Krzysztof Dyrdal wrote: > Hi, > Is there any easy trick to combine (automatic use) pine ond PGP > encryption-decyuption of messages (pipe or sth else) ??? > If anybody managed to use it in such a way - please - any suggestion would be > appreciated. > > Chris Yes, there is a nice script (using alternate editor hook). To obtain it send message to slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu with Subject: mkpgp Stanislav Shalunov URL: http://www.math.wisc.edu/~shalunov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 23:07:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08146; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:07:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13311; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:01:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13305; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:01:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgQcE-00038EC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 22:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stanislav shalunov Subject: Several alternate editors Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 00:37:26 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A while ago script was posted that allowed using of several alternate editors; if somebody has it or remembers exect date of that post, please tell me. Thank you very much. Stanislav Shalunov URL: http://www.math.wisc.edu/~shalunov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 23:16:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08413; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:16:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24710; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:11:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24704; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:11:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgQnL-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Any FAQ about Pine ? Date: 10 Aug 1995 05:34:39 GMT Message-Id: <40c5pf$qbh@grape.epix.net> References: <40a5cg$4vn@ccpnws.in2p3.fr> Gilles Farrache (farrache@cc.in2p3.fr) wrote: : is there a FAQ about Pine ? And if where is it possible to retrieve it ? : Gilles Farrache try http://www.cac.washington.edu:1180/pine/ Not only the FAQ, but lottsa other good stuff ... Hope this helps ... G'Day ... sorry ... Bon Nuit ... /\ /~~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\/\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\| Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH /_/__\/_/___/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|__ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 23:40:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08804; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:40:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13847; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:37:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13841; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:37:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgR9a-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ferry Winarta Subject: IMAPD on SCO Open Server 3.2v4.2 Date: 9 Aug 1995 22:57:06 GMT Message-Id: <40beg2$md8@mippet.ci.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I try to use pc pine to connect to our mail server (using pine 3.91), via imap2 port. It only works by using root password. We are using C2 security features from SCO. This will run imapd with NOLUID (set in /etc/inetd.conf). Is there anybody ever set this up, or have any idea for me to be tried. Thanks and Best Regards ferryw NB: I've posted the same subjects yesterday, but I couldn't find it today. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 05:51:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17112; Thu, 10 Aug 95 05:51:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29900; Thu, 10 Aug 95 05:42:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29894; Thu, 10 Aug 95 05:42:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgWtP-00038BC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 05:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Baruch David Kaufman Subject: Re: Questions about .forward Date: 10 Aug 1995 12:14:15 GMT Message-Id: <40ct6n$8ki@cnn.cc.biu.ac.il> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SeJim Clark wrote: >Hi > >1. I have setup .forward with receiving address, but mail is not forwarded. > >2. Playing around with procmail and .forward to sort messages (as >described in FAQs) also does not work. My mail seems to disappear. > >Any obvious (or not so obvious) suggestions? I'm on Alpha with OSF/1 Have you set your the permission of .forward to 711 using chmod? This is necessary to allow others (including software) to access the file for forwarding information. >using Pine as mail program. I believe PMDF (?) is earlier part of mail >delivery. > -- ................................................................... Baruch David Kaufman . mail: kaufmb@cc.biu.ac.il . HAVE A . Bar Ilan University . tel : 972-3-531-8781 . WONDERFUL . Computer Center . fax : 972-3-534-4446 . DAY . Israel........................................................... . From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 06:16:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17687; Thu, 10 Aug 95 06:16:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00455; Thu, 10 Aug 95 06:12:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from starbase1.htls.lib.il.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00449; Thu, 10 Aug 95 06:12:27 -0700 Received: (from wakko@localhost) by starbase1.htls.lib.il.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA22969; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 08:03:08 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 08:03:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Wakko Warner-System Administrator-AKA Ron Chesko To: Mattias Ahnberg Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Questions!? In-Reply-To: <40bm2i$ibt@fizban.solace.mh.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 10 Aug 1995, Mattias Ahnberg wrote: > I have a couple of questions to ask concerning Pine. (I'm using v3.91) > > * Is there a FAQ available? If there is, where can it be found? http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ > > * Is there some way you can make pine "sort out" messages from one or > several adresses, and put them in a folder different than INBOX? Would > be very handy when u're participating in several mailing lists and > everything gets messed in the inbox. Pine will allow you to create the folders to do this but won't actually do the sorting. You have to use a program like procmail or filter. Filter usually comes with the elm distribution and procmail you can get from ftp://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/packages/procmail > [-AHNBERG-] Friendly Mailwriter ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ It's nice to know that there are still some Friendly Mailwriters left in this world. Ron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Chesko, CNA *"cannot find the comfort in this world...victims in Decker at Large * demand for public show...a truant finds home, and * a wish to hold on to...coming up a which-way sign, * all good truants must decide...truants move on, * cannot stay long, some die just to live..." #include * -Pearl Jam "Immortality" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 06:22:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17796; Thu, 10 Aug 95 06:22:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18323; Thu, 10 Aug 95 06:17:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18317; Thu, 10 Aug 95 06:17:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgXRK-00038KC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 06:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andy Behrens Subject: Verifying addresses before sending Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 14:31:50 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Over 99% of the mail messages sent by our users are intra-domain: from one site in our company's domain to another. Because our logins are centrally administered, we know authoritatively whether a mailing address in our own domain is valid. It would be really nice for our users if Pine could check these addresses *before* the message is sent. If they have to wait for the mail system to send them a "not deliverable" notice, they may not catch a mis-typed address until the next time they check their mail. Even worse, if the typo is on a Cc: address, then every reply to their message will also generate an error. (We'd have no trouble writing the program that actually does the verification; all we need is for Pine to be able to connect to it. Almost any interface would work for us: running a program, connecting to a network port, issuing a Sendmail VRFY command, ....) Is anything like this planned for a future release? Andy -- Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. (Anne Herbert) Andy Behrens Burlington Coat Factory, Schoolhouse Lane, Etna, N.H. 03750 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 07:41:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19553; Thu, 10 Aug 95 07:41:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01638; Thu, 10 Aug 95 07:36:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cosmail5.ctd.ornl.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01632; Thu, 10 Aug 95 07:36:55 -0700 Received: from [128.219.128.57] (baloo.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.128.57]) by cosmail5.ctd.ornl.gov (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA08288 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 10:36:45 -0400 X-Sender: jnm@cosmail1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 10:36:46 -0400 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jamey Maze Subject: nulls in spool file, Pine ignores message We're having a problem periodically where sendmail writes a message to a spool file where the From line is preceeded with a series of nulls. This causes Pine to not see the beginning of the new message so it gets lost at the end of the previous message. The UCB mail program handles it okay and just opening and saving the spool file with mail will remove the nulls. Is this problem known and, if so, is there a fix? Much appreciated! PS: I've not been following pine-info lately. I apologize if this issue has been dealt with earlier. -- Jamey Maze TEL: (615)574-6355 FAX: (615)574-8922 Lockheed Martin Energy Systems / Oak Ridge National Laboratory P.O. Box 2008, MS-6394 / White Oak Road / Oak Ridge, TN 37831 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 10:46:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26742; Thu, 10 Aug 95 10:46:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05988; Thu, 10 Aug 95 10:43:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05980; Thu, 10 Aug 95 10:42:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgbYa-00038BC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 10:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: br00031@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu Subject: Print to "attached ascii problem" Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 13:11:13 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi: When I print mail that is longer than a single page test is always lost. How do I set the print margins to fix this, or is there another solution. thanksfor the help. Karen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 12:47:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03198; Thu, 10 Aug 95 12:47:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25731; Thu, 10 Aug 95 12:43:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25725; Thu, 10 Aug 95 12:43:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgdS1-00038BC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 12:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gildas PERROT Subject: REPOST : Pine 3.91 and 'From:' without hostname Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 11:18:10 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I am using Pine 3.91 since 1 year and I still have a problem I can solve. It's about 'From:' field in outgoing mail. This one contains the hostname of my mail exchanger, 'Pinuche' : login@Pinuche.grbb.polymtl.ca. I would like to get just the domainame : login@grbb.polymtl.ca. I have correctly configured my sendmail.cf on my hosts in order to remove hostname from 'From:' when using 'mail' or 'Mail' but with pine, I still have this problem. However, I have the lines in pine.conf : user-domain=grbb.polymtl.ca use-only-domain-name=no I tried to use : user-domain= use-only-domain-name=yes but with no more success. I checked that my .pinerc doesn't have another configuration. Any idea about this problem ? Thanks in advance for your help. Gildas. # Gildas PERROT, Associe de recherche # Ecole Polytechnique # Institut de Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 14:07:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06502; Thu, 10 Aug 95 14:07:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10756; Thu, 10 Aug 95 14:03:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10750; Thu, 10 Aug 95 14:03:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgegP-00038BC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 13:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: Can I disable .pine-debug files? Date: 10 Aug 1995 14:47:11 -0500 Message-Id: <40dnnv$lh1@mindy.cs.utexas.edu> References: [ larry@austin.ibm.com wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] -> I'd like to disable the .pine-debug? file generation. Is there any -> way to do that vi pine or the .pinerc? Thanks ... Start up PINE with "pine -d0". Ananda -- Ananda M. Kar |(H)458-9754 | URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/ananda/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 15:32:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10647; Thu, 10 Aug 95 15:32:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29254; Thu, 10 Aug 95 15:28:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29248; Thu, 10 Aug 95 15:28:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgg28-00038BC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 15:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: larry@austin.ibm.com () Subject: Can I disable .pine-debug files? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 17:20:16 GMT I'd like to disable the .pine-debug? file generation. Is there any way to do that vi pine or the .pinerc? Thanks ... -- ==================== Austin LAN Security SWAT Team ==================== Larry L. Buickel | Any opinions expressed do not represent T/L 793-0944 | those of the IBM Corporation. IBM: larry@austin.ibm.com | << IBM Corporation From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 15:32:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10673; Thu, 10 Aug 95 15:32:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12906; Thu, 10 Aug 95 15:28:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12899; Thu, 10 Aug 95 15:28:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgg2H-00038EC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 15:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: klm@nist.gov (Kenneth Manheimer) Subject: [Unix Pine 3.91] save: "Unable to append mail to file" Date: 10 Aug 1995 14:00:40 -0400 Message-Id: Howdy. I use pine for previewing and quick-handling of my email deluge, and a more automatable email interface (emacs vm) for systematic foldering, folder perusal, etc. (Work dynamics as they are, i wind up using pine predominantly.) My problem is that pine more-than-occasionally rejects vm folders for saves. Now, vm is supposed to be rfc822 compliaint, but even if it's not perfectly so, i wish pine would let me append rfc822-formed messages in a file when i wish to do so! (I realize that i can use 'export', but it loses information. And besides, it doesn't do completion - i hope that's being corrected in the next release! - which makes the foldering process much more clunky...) So i request relaxation of the constraints on folder type for saves - require existence of the folder, and some basic mail-folder characteristics requirements, but don't be so stringent that mail-like folders are rejected. And btw, any word about when some patches and/or a new version might appear? I took a quick look at the code, but couldn't even locate significant portions of the "Unable to append mail to file" message, to find the relevant code to make the change myself. (And what i could track down did not look trivial...) ken ken.manheimer@nist.gov, 301 975-3539 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 18:16:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17502; Thu, 10 Aug 95 18:16:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02494; Thu, 10 Aug 95 18:13:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02488; Thu, 10 Aug 95 18:13:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgicH-00038BC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 18:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: IMAPD on SCO Open Server 3.2v4.2 Date: 10 Aug 1995 19:42:10 GMT Message-Id: <40dnei$ijg@tristram.edc.org> References: <40beg2$md8@mippet.ci.com.au> Ferry Winarta (ferryw@softplus.com.au) wrote: : I try to use pc pine to connect to our mail server (using pine 3.91), via : imap2 port. : It only works by using root password. : We are using C2 security features from SCO. This will run imapd with : NOLUID (set in /etc/inetd.conf). I believe that C2 uses Shadow passwords. As far as I've ever seen, Pine won't use Shadow passwords on SCO. This may not be the problem, but it seems likely to me. Try telnetting into the IMAP port and having the dialog by hand, so you can see the errors directly. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 19:31:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18981; Thu, 10 Aug 95 19:31:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17487; Thu, 10 Aug 95 19:29:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17481; Thu, 10 Aug 95 19:29:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgjoL-00038EC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 19:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ron@devi.rtvf.nwu.edu (Ron Small) Subject: Re: TO: in FROM line not for newsgroups? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 21:01:48 -0500 Message-Id: References: In article , lynch.94@osu.edu (Jerry Lynch) wrote: > I like the feature of pine that mail with your FROM address is listed as > "TO: user@address". This is especially helpful in the "sent-mail" > folder. However, this does not seem to work for news posts? Is there a > way to have a similar feature where posts would look like "TO: newsgroup"? > > Thanks. > > Jerry When I send mail to a listserv that I am subscribed to, my posts are not identified by my name. The FROM line just says To:idm@hyperreal.com. When I send messages to individuals, it identifies me accurately in the FROM line. I'm not sure which pine setup file to change to fix this problem. Any help will be appreciated. Regards, ____________________________________________________________________ Ron Small Rational Graphics Inc. Chicago, USA "Let's Start What We Came In The Room To Do" ____________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 22:12:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21994; Thu, 10 Aug 95 22:12:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05195; Thu, 10 Aug 95 22:09:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05189; Thu, 10 Aug 95 22:09:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgmIN-00038BC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 22:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: nulls in spool file, Pine ignores message Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 16:50:38 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: We believe that this problem will be fixed in Pine 3.92. If you are in a hurry, you can get the very latest ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap-3.6.BETA.tar.Z and rebuild Pine 3.92 using the IMAP 3.6 beta toolkit instead of the IMAP 3.5 that was distributed with Pine 3.91. Don't use the IMAP 4 alpha toolkit; Pine doesn't build with it yet. I just put in code from the IMAP 4 alpha toolkit into the IMAP 3.6 beta toolkit that should nuke the last vestiges of this problem. Previous versions of the IMAP 3.6 beta toolkit fixed most occurances, but there was still a hole through which a few insects should slip through. On 10 Aug 1995, Jamey Maze wrote: > We're having a problem periodically where sendmail writes a message to a > spool file where the From line is preceeded with a series of nulls. This > causes Pine to not see the beginning of the new message so it gets lost at > the end of the previous message. The UCB mail program handles it okay and > just opening and saving the spool file with mail will remove the nulls. Is > this problem known and, if so, is there a fix? Much appreciated! > > PS: I've not been following pine-info lately. I apologize if this issue has > been dealt with earlier. > > > > -- > Jamey Maze TEL: (615)574-6355 FAX: (615)574-8922 > Lockheed Martin Energy Systems / Oak Ridge National Laboratory > P.O. Box 2008, MS-6394 / White Oak Road / Oak Ridge, TN 37831 > > > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 22:22:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22146; Thu, 10 Aug 95 22:22:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19873; Thu, 10 Aug 95 22:19:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19865; Thu, 10 Aug 95 22:19:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgmS1-00038IC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 22:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hgoldste@bbs.mpcs.com (Howard Goldstein) Subject: BUG? 3.91 bounce destination ignored, goes back to Reply-to: address Date: 11 Aug 1995 05:53:21 GMT Message-Id: <40er8h$c8b@ddi2.digital.net> My subject says it all, but it isn't consistent. Messages from one mailing list in particular (not a listserv) never bounce to where I send them; rather, they embarrasingly go back to the list! If someone would like to take a look at a few offending message header samples I'll be happy to email them. From a capture buffer, not a bounce, of that you can be sure ;-) (3.91 linux built from the jen-u-wine sources) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 22:27:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22281; Thu, 10 Aug 95 22:27:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05341; Thu, 10 Aug 95 22:24:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05335; Thu, 10 Aug 95 22:24:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgmWB-00038BC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 22:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: [Unix Pine 3.91] save: "Unable to append mail to file" Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 17:02:58 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: That error message indicates that you attempted to append a message to a file that is not in any recognized mail box file format. The format of mail box files is not specified by any RFC, and more likely than not emacs vm has its own ideosyncratic format that is not known to Pine. Since Pine does not know what format the mail box file is in, it does not know what format in which to write the message. You would probably be very upset if Pine were to write a message to an executable binary file, or to a shell script, because you mistyped a name. You'd also be upset if Pine were to write a message to a vm mail box file using some other mail box format (meaning that vm wouldn't recognize it as a message). I hope that you now recognize that a "relaxation of the constrains of folder type for saves" is not what you want. If you want to write to an arbitrary file, the command to use is Export; if you want to write to vm folders, you either need to tell vm to use the standard Unix mail box format or you need to write a c-client driver to support the vm format. A typical c-client driver is pine3.91/imap/ANSI/c-client/bezerk.[ch] You basically need to copy this code, change all occurances of the string "bezerk" to "vm", then change the code to read/write vm format instead of Unix format. Not for the faint-hearted. On 10 Aug 1995, Kenneth Manheimer wrote: > Howdy. > > I use pine for previewing and quick-handling of my email deluge, and a > more automatable email interface (emacs vm) for systematic foldering, > folder perusal, etc. (Work dynamics as they are, i wind up using pine > predominantly.) My problem is that pine more-than-occasionally > rejects vm folders for saves. > > Now, vm is supposed to be rfc822 compliaint, but even if it's not > perfectly so, i wish pine would let me append rfc822-formed messages > in a file when i wish to do so! (I realize that i can use 'export', > but it loses information. And besides, it doesn't do completion - i > hope that's being corrected in the next release! - which makes the > foldering process much more clunky...) So i request relaxation of the > constraints on folder type for saves - require existence of the > folder, and some basic mail-folder characteristics requirements, but > don't be so stringent that mail-like folders are rejected. > > And btw, any word about when some patches and/or a new version might > appear? I took a quick look at the code, but couldn't even locate > significant portions of the "Unable to append mail to file" message, > to find the relevant code to make the change myself. (And what i > could track down did not look trivial...) > > ken > ken.manheimer@nist.gov, 301 975-3539 > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 23:18:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23185; Thu, 10 Aug 95 23:18:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20597; Thu, 10 Aug 95 23:14:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20591; Thu, 10 Aug 95 23:14:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgnLs-00038BC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 23:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vecsey@course2.harvard.edu (Lester Vecsey) Subject: PINE 3.92 - [PGP] - When!? Date: 11 Aug 1995 01:11:51 GMT Message-Id: <40eaon$8pa@decaxp.harvard.edu> So when will PINE 3.92 be released and how seamless will the PGP be integrated into it? -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 02:47:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27144; Fri, 11 Aug 95 02:47:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23236; Fri, 11 Aug 95 02:43:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from goggins.bath.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23230; Fri, 11 Aug 95 02:43:09 -0700 Received: from bath.ac.uk (actually host mary.bath.ac.uk) by goggins.bath.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 11 Aug 1995 10:40:34 +0100 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 10:40:29 +0100 (BST) From: mickey To: Gildas PERROT Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: REPOST : Pine 3.91 and 'From:' without hostname In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Gildas, go to the Setup (press S on the Main Menu page) and then Configuration (press C). If the second line down says: user-domain = Then this is a sys-admin defined value and you cannot change it even if you change the .pinerc file. Having said that, I have just glanced up at your "From :" and it says: From: Gildas PERROT How are you seeing if the "Pinuche" is still being added, by sending mail to yourself? Try sendiing it to a friend instead. Mickey --------------------------------------------- | Two wrongs don't make a right, | | but three lefts do. | --------------------------------------------- On Thu, 10 Aug 1995, Gildas PERROT wrote: > Hi, > > I am using Pine 3.91 since 1 year and I still have a problem I can > solve. It's about 'From:' field in outgoing mail. This one contains > the hostname of my mail exchanger, 'Pinuche' : > login@Pinuche.grbb.polymtl.ca. I would like to get just the domainame > : login@grbb.polymtl.ca. I have correctly configured my sendmail.cf on > my hosts in order to remove hostname from 'From:' when using 'mail' or > 'Mail' but with pine, I still have this problem. However, I have the > lines in pine.conf : > > user-domain=grbb.polymtl.ca > use-only-domain-name=no > > I tried to use : > user-domain= > use-only-domain-name=yes > > but with no more success. I checked that my .pinerc doesn't have > another configuration. > > Any idea about this problem ? > > Thanks in advance for your help. Gildas. > > # Gildas PERROT, Associe de recherche # Ecole Polytechnique > # Institut de Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o > # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ > # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 03:11:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27829; Fri, 11 Aug 95 03:11:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08389; Fri, 11 Aug 95 03:07:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08383; Fri, 11 Aug 95 03:07:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgqu4-00038BC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 03:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jonathan Butterworth Subject: Problems with a large (80 address) distribution list Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 11:36:36 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I have been using pine for a while now, including using short distribution lists - I've been very impressed with the reliability. However, when I try to use a new distribution list I have, with 80 addresses on it, the mail does not get sent and I get no error messages. In .pine-debug1 the mail is flagged "SUCCESSFUL", but in the sendmail log there is just the line sendmail locked which looks bad. Unfortunately there's noone here with the expertise to go any further into the problem. (Incidentally the problem is not with any of the addresses on the list. When I break it up into 5 smaller lists, they work fine) Many thanks for any help or clues, Cheers, Jon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan M. Butterworth Tel:(+49)(40) 8998 2009 Fax:(+49)(40)8998 3092 Room 124 (Building 1b) ZEUS, DESY, Notkestr.85, Hamburg 22603 Pennsylvania State University http://zow00.desy.de:8000/~butterwo/TOP.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 04:26:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29733; Fri, 11 Aug 95 04:26:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24782; Fri, 11 Aug 95 04:22:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24776; Fri, 11 Aug 95 04:22:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgs55-00038BC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 04:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Clark Subject: Separate Local and Remote News possible? Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 06:14:44 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Is it possible in Pine to have a remote news feed for newsgroups and a local site for local groups? If so I would appreciate hearing from someone with such a setup about what is required on the local site and how users should configure Pine. Take care Jim **************************************************************************** James M. Clark (204) 786-9313 Department of Psychology (204) 786-1824 Fax University of Winnipeg clark@uwinnipeg.ca Winnipeg, Manitoba R3B 2E9 4L02A CANADA **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 06:31:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02132; Fri, 11 Aug 95 06:31:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10521; Fri, 11 Aug 95 06:25:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10515; Fri, 11 Aug 95 06:25:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgu2O-00038EC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 06:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nsheth@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu (Nischal Sheth) Subject: Prevent bell/beep sound Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 11:24:56 GMT Is there any way (other than improving my memory & typing) to prevent a beep sound when I press an invalid key. Thanks, Nischal. -- Nischal Sheth Phone: +1 (602) 967-8843 Email: nsheth@asu.edu WWW : http://enuxsa.eas.asu.edu/~nsheth Pmail: 950 S. Terrace Rd, #C-250, Tempe, AZ-85281 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 08:31:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04941; Fri, 11 Aug 95 08:31:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28200; Fri, 11 Aug 95 08:23:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28194; Fri, 11 Aug 95 08:23:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgvpI-00038BC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 08:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gdoucett@pX1.stfx.ca (Gary Doucette) Subject: PC-Pine won't follow nearest IP gateway? Date: 11 Aug 95 15:02:07 GMT Message-Id: We've setup PC-PINE v3.91 for DOS Packet Drivers on a Novell server which services many students on several IP subnets attached to a cisco router. The problem is that from areas not on the same subnet as the Novell Server a connection can't be made to the UNIX system which is the IMAP Server. I think the Nearest IP Gateway is the problem. We use NCSA Telnet with one CONFIG.TEL, but PC-PINE seems to want the gateway to point to the correct subnet instead of ARPing for an address. Any ideas? I have not read the FAQ. Is there one, and where is it? How does the TCP in Pine handle Nearest gateway addresses? Many Thanks, Gary _________________________________________________________ Gary Doucette gdoucett@stfx.ca Network Manager St. Francis Xavier University Antigonish, NS, CANADA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 09:48:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08867; Fri, 11 Aug 95 09:48:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13816; Fri, 11 Aug 95 09:41:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13810; Fri, 11 Aug 95 09:41:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgx66-00038BC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 09:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vecsey@course2.harvard.edu (Lester Vecsey) Subject: PINE - Stupid delays, removing them! Date: 11 Aug 1995 16:03:47 GMT Message-Id: <40fv13$eic@decaxp.harvard.edu> How do I remove the delay going into the in-box, and doing certain operations? I found nothing referring to it in .pinerc -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 09:56:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09308; Fri, 11 Aug 95 09:56:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00503; Fri, 11 Aug 95 09:51:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00497; Fri, 11 Aug 95 09:51:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgxII-00038BC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 09:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: csmjb@isdnlin.mtsu.edu (Mark J. Bailey) Subject: Pine 3.91 for SCO (WITH NO TCP/IP) Date: 11 Aug 1995 10:31:57 -0500 Message-Id: hi has anyone built Pine 3.91 (or just a bit prior) for SCO unix that has no TCPIP? Like the SCO Unix 3.2v4.1? Ie, I need PINE/PICO that uses c-client for /usr/spool/mail/XXXX and MMDF ONLY. please email replies! Thanks, Mark From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 10:10:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10186; Fri, 11 Aug 95 10:10:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14323; Fri, 11 Aug 95 10:06:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14317; Fri, 11 Aug 95 10:06:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgxT5-00038BC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 10:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rolfe@ibm.net (Rolfe Tessem) Subject: Are these headers going to cause problems? Date: 11 Aug 1995 15:35:25 GMT Message-Id: <40ftbu$ajj@daffy.ldp.com> I can't seem to get our domain name appended to the X-Sender: line, and it also doesn't appear in the Message-ID:, as you can see below. The From: line is fine, and sendmail seems to be behaving itself with all other mail clients on the system. This is Pine 3.91 on a Next. Are either of these going to cause problems, or is this strictly a cosmetic issue? Any hints greatly appreciated. --- Received: from rosebud.ldp.com (rosebud.ldp.com [149.90.1.3]) by daffy.ldp.com (8.6.5/8.6.4.287) with ESMTP id LAA11187 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 11:17:27 -0400 Received: from localhost (rolfe@localhost) by rosebud.ldp.com (8.6.5/8.6.4.788743) id LAA15789; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 11:15:20 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 11:15:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Rolfe Tessem X-Sender: rolfe@rosebud ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ To: rolfe@ldp.com Subject: test test test Message-ID: ^^^^^^^^ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -- Rolfe Tessem | Lucky Duck Productions, Inc rolfe@ldp.com | 96 Morton Street (212) 463-0029 | New York, NY 10014 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 10:40:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11609; Fri, 11 Aug 95 10:40:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01575; Fri, 11 Aug 95 10:36:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01569; Fri, 11 Aug 95 10:36:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgxxQ-00038BC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 10:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dab@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (Doug Brandon) Subject: Pine startup question Date: 11 Aug 1995 09:17:20 -0700 Message-Id: <40fvqg$t69@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> I just got done compiling pine 3.91 on HP-UX using gcc and it behaves a little differently than the version on my internet service provider. The ISP copy startup and goes to the main menu, while my freshly compiled version immediately goes to the INBOX folder. How can I get pine to go to the main menu upon startup? Doug -- /*--------------------------------------------------------------------*/ Doug Brandon http://www.kaiwan.com/~dab dab@kaiwan.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 11:00:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12671; Fri, 11 Aug 95 11:00:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15340; Fri, 11 Aug 95 10:56:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15334; Fri, 11 Aug 95 10:56:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgyJV-00038EC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 10:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: modrall@swcp.com (Modrall Law Firm) Subject: Help: Need and SMTP to MHS gateway Date: 11 Aug 1995 16:49:00 GMT Message-Id: <40g1ls$bqe@sloth.swcp.com> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 11:24:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13635; Fri, 11 Aug 95 11:24:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02714; Fri, 11 Aug 95 11:21:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02707; Fri, 11 Aug 95 11:21:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgye2-00038BC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 11:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Common mail groupware software Date: 11 Aug 95 17:36:57 GMT Message-Id: References: stevedav@netcom.com (Steve Davidson) writes: >Can someone please direct me to MAIL or MESSAGING software >that allows a group of people to share a single mail queue. >I'd need simple message locking so that when one person is read/responding >to mail, others see the lock and cannot respond to the same message. "Locking" is so non-trivial that I suggest to either set up a mailing list or create a local newsgroup. You could also make the mail folder available as a web page but then everybody *could* read it. Oh, well. Anyway, if you're only *reading* from the same folder then there should be no problem. YOu only need locking if new mail will be put into the folder. Sven Cc: stevedav@netcom.com (Steve Davidson) -- ELM - the screen oriented mail program. Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm ELM versions: Latest release: ELM 2.4 PL24 || ELM 2.5 is still in alpha The "ELM Pages" - all about ELM on the World Wide Web: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ [950801] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 12:45:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17083; Fri, 11 Aug 95 12:45:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17291; Fri, 11 Aug 95 12:37:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dmog10.bell.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17285; Fri, 11 Aug 95 12:37:19 -0700 Received: from dmoc61.on.bell.ca by dmog10.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA12412; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:36:45 -0400 Received: from huhc06.ON.Bell.Ca by dmoc61.on.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA09496; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:36:41 -0400 Received: by huhc06 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19093; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:36:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 15:36:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Violette" Reply-To: jviolett@on.bell.ca To: Pine Info Subject: Re: Function keys in xterm don't work In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: Bell Canada Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dumb question! It was in the Pine Technical Notes page 46. But now I have the problem that when I do use function keys, and I go into the setup menu, the F4 (Newpassword) and F5 (Config) choices beep at me with no error message, but the others work (Update Cancel Printer and Help) all work with the function keys. Also F4 and F5 seem to work everywhere else. Pine 3.91 HPUX 9.01 7XX. Thanks for any help. On Tue, 8 Aug 1995, John R. Violette wrote: > I have Pine 3.91 running in an HP-UX 9.01 xterm, and if I invoke pine -k, I > get the function key menu at the bottom but when I press any function key > I get a '[Command "D" not defined for this screen. Use F1 for help]' > error in the status line. Do I need a special X Resource file for this to > work so that the function keys are mapped and if so does anybody out > there have such a file. > -- | John R. Violette | Software Development | | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 15:17:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23707; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:17:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20549; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:14:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20543; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:14:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sh2G3-00038EC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: joewo@sierra.net (joewo) Subject: FREE AGENT READER HELP Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 21:53:04 GMT Message-Id: <40gjes$a97@jobes.sierra.net> HI i have the FREE AGENT newsreader system and it is quite easy...and seems to have all of the basics put on an icon bar. i have used it for a week now and love it...just one question though...in looking over the newsgroups it seems the system saves the articles in my computer's harddrive. i wish to purge them but every time i do what seems to be the most logical way to do this...clck on the purge articles option i go back and see all of the old articles when i want to only see the new unread articles. any idea how to solve my little problem??? joe in chiCO CA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 15:33:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24216; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:33:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20892; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:31:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20886; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:31:36 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28817; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:31:23 -0700 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 15:31:17 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jim Clark Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Separate Local and Remote News possible? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You could have two news-collections, one local and one remote. As long as there is no overlap in the newsgroup names you should not have any problem... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 11 Aug 1995, Jim Clark wrote: > Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 06:14:44 -0500 > From: Jim Clark > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Separate Local and Remote News possible? > > Hi > > Is it possible in Pine to have a remote news feed for newsgroups and a > local site for local groups? If so I would appreciate hearing from > someone with such a setup about what is required on the local site and > how users should configure Pine. > > Take care > Jim > > **************************************************************************** > James M. Clark (204) 786-9313 > Department of Psychology (204) 786-1824 Fax > University of Winnipeg clark@uwinnipeg.ca > Winnipeg, Manitoba R3B 2E9 4L02A > CANADA > **************************************************************************** > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 15:44:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24687; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:44:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08772; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:41:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08766; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:41:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sh2ln-00038EC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dboldt@usgs.gov (David Boldt) Subject: auto-login and IMAP Message-Id: <1995Aug11.221743.716@rsg1.er.usgs.gov> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 22:17:43 GMT I am running pine on a Linux system. is there anywhere i can store the userid and password so that i will not be prompted for them? -- --david boldt From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 15:45:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24738; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:45:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21146; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:42:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from agora.ualr.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21140; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:42:37 -0700 Received: (from dspiller@localhost) by agora.ualr.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA14069; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 17:19:00 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 17:18:59 -0500 (CDT) From: "David S. Spillers" Reply-To: Daniel Spillers , "David S. Spillers" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: HELP: Cannot post to local newsgroup Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Problem: We have the pine.conf* files set up with an NNTP-SERVER and then various news collections. One of those news collections is for a news host other than our NNTP-SERVER (our NNTP-SERVER happens to be a remote machine, while the aforementioned news collection is set to our local machine). Now, when we subscribe to one of the newsgroups in the "local" collection, everything is fine. It sees the proper list. However, once an attempt is made to POST to this "local" newsgroup, an error message that looks something like 'ERROR 441: Unable to post to newsgroup "(null)"' is sent to us and the post fails. We want to be able to read AND post from/to _both_ servers, and were wondering if anyone could explain what the problem is. Possible Troubleshooting: We have examined our local "inn" and "innd" programs to see if they are configured properly. As far as we know, they are, but they might not be. We might have confliction between pine.conf and pine.conf.fixed, although we were very careful. Does Pine allow you to post/read from more than one server? Please help us with this. Thank you, David S. Spillers Daniel Spillers From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 18:54:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00360; Fri, 11 Aug 95 18:54:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23915; Fri, 11 Aug 95 18:52:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23909; Fri, 11 Aug 95 18:52:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sh5fv-00038BC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 18:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pickerin@phoenix.sas.muohio.edu (Robert A. Pickering Jr.) Subject: Re: PGP - Integrated, Behind the scenes Message-Id: <40goll$etb@rose.muohio.edu> Date: 11 Aug 1995 23:21:25 GMT References: <3vtmb7$6eb@decaxp.harvard.edu> And imagine all the sleep I'd loose knowing that anyone with access to my account (by cracking my password or with privledge) could send mail authenticated as me, and decrypt all my mail sent to me (and probably all the files I encrypted if it's integrated well). No thanks. I would support something that allowed me to specify if I wanted it signed, then asked for my passphrase. I would support something that verfied signatures on signed mail received by me and told me it was valid. But, I don't want anything signing things automatically, or decrypting automatically, that just causes it to loose it's significance. Actually, a collegue of mine here wrote some shell scripts and a .forward filter that will perform all of this automatically, without the use of mkpgp. -Rob Lester Vecsey (vecsey@course1.harvard.edu) wrote: : Any hopes of including PGP support in PINE? mkpgp works ok, but it would : be REALLY nice if PGP could be integrated in pine as well as MIME support : is for attachments. i.e., every message you type in pine would be : automatically signed by your secret key and messages sent to you would : automatically be checked for validity, and decrypted on the fly without : you even knowing it. Imagine all the new people that would be using pgp : if it was as simple as that. : -- -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 21:45:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03490; Fri, 11 Aug 95 21:45:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25644; Fri, 11 Aug 95 21:42:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25638; Fri, 11 Aug 95 21:42:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sh8NB-00038EC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 21:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: teal@netcom.com (TEAL@netcom.com) Subject: Question about "Bcc" in Version 3.89 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 1995 02:03:03 GMT I recently sent an e-mail to eleven people. To avoid revealing their addresses, I addressed the message to myself and "Bcc'ed" everyone else. I also Bcc'ed myself, as I usually do when I send an important message. However, I received only one message in my mailbox. I never received the Bcc I sent myself. Shouldn't I have received two copies of the message? Your e-mail response is appreciated. Thanks. --Jodi From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 22:30:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04546; Fri, 11 Aug 95 22:30:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14907; Fri, 11 Aug 95 22:24:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14901; Fri, 11 Aug 95 22:24:58 -0700 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id XAA22376 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 23:24:55 -0600 Received: from gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca (maldridg@gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.125.10]) by gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA81541 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 23:24:44 -0600 Received: by gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9) id XAA56596; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 23:24:28 -0600 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 23:24:28 -0600 (MDT) From: Lea Andrellan X-Sender: maldridg@gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: Swedish characters In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Sat, 5 Aug 1995, Brian D. Uhreen wrote: > =09Could someone tell me how I could configure lynx and/or the Pine > mailer so they will show the swedish characters proporly. I have my > computer set to swedish and I would like to be able to see an A (and a > with two dots on it) and the rest when ppl write to me >=20 > The letters "a" with a dot, "a" with two dots and "o" with two dots > looks like this if I type them, first a capital and then a small one > they are in the order as above: > =C5=E5 =C4=E4 =D6=F6=20 >=20 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^< I would like them to show up as the actual letter=20 > rather than (for ex) a '*' or a 'A'. See if the following is of any help to you: To see a list of all available language sets on gpu, type =20 locale -a at the gpu sustem prompt. =20 Modify .pinerc to include the proper ISO-nnnn-n string in the=20 character-set option. Then put the following in the bottom of your .cshrc file: setenv LANG xx_xx ie setenv LANG sv_SE Then logout and log back in. Then either find an article in the desired=20 language to display, or create a piece of mail to yourself and try to=20 look at it. We've successfully used the above method here for both the French and=20 Swedish language sets, so far... Lea ---------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; CWIS WWW/gopher admin; Helpde= sk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) ..Mommy, what does FORMATTING DRIVE C: mean?... ---------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 23:42:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05572; Fri, 11 Aug 95 23:42:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15707; Fri, 11 Aug 95 23:37:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15701; Fri, 11 Aug 95 23:37:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shAAe-00038EC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 23:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Are these headers going to cause problems? Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 23:16:08 -0700 Message-Id: References: <40ftbu$ajj@daffy.ldp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <40ftbu$ajj@daffy.ldp.com> Your /etc/hosts.txt -- or, since you are on a NeXT, your NetInfo database -- is incorrectly configured. Look at the entry for the local host. You will see that "rosebud" appears before "rosebud.ldp.com". You need to reverse the order so that the full name appears first. On 11 Aug 1995, Rolfe Tessem wrote: > I can't seem to get our domain name appended to the X-Sender: line, and > it also doesn't appear in the Message-ID:, as you can see below. > > The From: line is fine, and sendmail seems to be behaving itself with > all other mail clients on the system. This is Pine 3.91 on a Next. > > Are either of these going to cause problems, or is this strictly a > cosmetic issue? > > Any hints greatly appreciated. > --- > Received: from rosebud.ldp.com (rosebud.ldp.com [149.90.1.3]) by daffy.ldp.com (8.6.5/8.6.4.287) with ESMTP id LAA11187 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 11:17:27 -0400 > Received: from localhost (rolfe@localhost) by rosebud.ldp.com (8.6.5/8.6.4.788743) id LAA15789; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 11:15:20 -0400 > Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 11:15:19 -0400 (EDT) > From: Rolfe Tessem > X-Sender: rolfe@rosebud > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > To: rolfe@ldp.com > Subject: test test test > Message-ID: > ^^^^^^^^ > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > -- > Rolfe Tessem | Lucky Duck Productions, Inc > rolfe@ldp.com | 96 Morton Street > (212) 463-0029 | New York, NY 10014 > > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 23:43:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05617; Fri, 11 Aug 95 23:43:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26740; Fri, 11 Aug 95 23:37:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26734; Fri, 11 Aug 95 23:37:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shAAf-00038HC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 23:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Are these headers going to cause problems? Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 23:18:19 -0700 Message-Id: References: <40ftbu$ajj@daffy.ldp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <40ftbu$ajj@daffy.ldp.com> On 11 Aug 1995, Rolfe Tessem wrote: > Are either of these going to cause problems, or is this strictly a > cosmetic issue? PS: I forgot to answer this. It is strictly a cosmetic issue. The X-Sender header is not an official header, and is not subject to any rules. The rules for the Message-ID header specify that the token to the right of the "@" be a what RFC-822 calls a "domain". This has misled some people into thinking that a fully-qualified name must be specified, but in reality it a since word without any dots is valid. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 12 01:29:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07706; Sat, 12 Aug 95 01:29:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17103; Sat, 12 Aug 95 01:28:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17097; Sat, 12 Aug 95 01:28:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shBtX-00038EC; Sat, 12 Aug 95 01:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rahul Dhesi Subject: Re: Are these headers going to cause problems? Date: 12 Aug 1995 08:02:00 GMT Message-Id: <40hn5o$t99@bug.rahul.net> References: <40ftbu$ajj@daffy.ldp.com> In Mark Crispin writes: >The rules for the Message-ID header specify that the token to the right of >the "@" be a what RFC-822 calls a "domain". This has misled some people >into thinking that a fully-qualified name must be specified, but in >reality it a since word without any dots is valid. Some of the the allegedly misled people were actually wondering how one can ensure the required uniqueness of a Message-ID that has a simple hostname on the right of the @ sign instead of a fully qualified domain name. -- Rahul Dhesi "please ignore Dhesi" -- Mark Crispin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 12 04:33:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11441; Sat, 12 Aug 95 04:33:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29967; Sat, 12 Aug 95 04:31:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29961; Sat, 12 Aug 95 04:31:19 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 12 Aug 95 19:29:04 +0800 Date: Sat, 12 Aug 1995 19:29:04 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Rahul Dhesi Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Are these headers going to cause problems? In-Reply-To: <40hn5o$t99@bug.rahul.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Aug 1995, Rahul Dhesi wrote: > In Mark Crispin writes: > > >The rules for the Message-ID header specify that the token to the right of > >the "@" be a what RFC-822 calls a "domain". This has misled some people > >into thinking that a fully-qualified name must be specified, but in > >reality it a since word without any dots is valid. > > Some of the the allegedly misled people were actually wondering how one > can ensure the required uniqueness of a Message-ID that has a simple > hostname on the right of the @ sign instead of a fully qualified domain > name. To quote RFC-822 4.6.1. MESSAGE-ID / RESENT-MESSAGE-ID This field contains a unique identifier (the local-part address unit) which refers to THIS version of THIS message. The uniqueness of the message identifier is guaranteed by the host which generates it. This identifier is intended to be machine readable and not necessarily meaningful to humans. A message identifier pertains to exactly one instantiation of a particular message; subsequent revisions to the message should each receive new message identifiers. unquote. It says *nothing* about world uniqueness. Note also the phrase "refers to *THIS* version of *THIS* message". In never states anything about *ALL* messages. Indeed, later in the RFC this example is given: Message-ID: <4231.629.XYzi-What@Other-Host> I would think this should clear up any misunderstanding. Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 12 06:20:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12899; Sat, 12 Aug 95 06:20:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00984; Sat, 12 Aug 95 06:18:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00978; Sat, 12 Aug 95 06:18:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shGPF-00038EC; Sat, 12 Aug 95 06:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynch.94@osu.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: Re: Pine startup question Date: 12 Aug 1995 09:13:28 -0400 Message-Id: References: <40fvqg$t69@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> Doug, From the Main Menu, choose Setup, Config. Then go to the line that says "initial-keystroke-list" and set that equal to "m". That should do it. Jerry On 11 Aug 1995, Doug Brandon wrote: > I just got done compiling pine 3.91 on HP-UX using gcc and it behaves > a little differently than the version on my internet service provider. > The ISP copy startup and goes to the main menu, while my freshly > compiled version immediately goes to the INBOX folder. How can I get > pine to go to the main menu upon startup? > Doug > /*--------------------------------------------------------------------*/ > Doug Brandon http://www.kaiwan.com/~dab dab@kaiwan.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 12 08:37:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14637; Sat, 12 Aug 95 08:37:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22411; Sat, 12 Aug 95 08:34:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22405; Sat, 12 Aug 95 08:34:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shIWR-00038HC; Sat, 12 Aug 95 08:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rahul Dhesi Subject: Re: Are these headers going to cause problems? Date: 12 Aug 1995 15:19:32 GMT Message-Id: <40igq4$2t3@bug.rahul.net> References: <40hn5o$t99@bug.rahul.net> In Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com (Ed Greshko) writes: > To quote RFC-822 > It says *nothing* about world uniqueness. I believe that the BNF, which includes the line: msg-id = "<" addr-spec ">" ; Unique message id settles the issue. 1. The comment 'Unique message id' is clear. 2. It is clearly the intent of RFC822 that any message crossing domain boundaries should use a sufficiently qualified domain name in the addr-spec. I see no exception to this rule for message-ids. -- Rahul Dhesi "please ignore Dhesi" -- Mark Crispin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 12 09:10:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15110; Sat, 12 Aug 95 09:10:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02480; Sat, 12 Aug 95 09:09:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02474; Sat, 12 Aug 95 09:09:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shJ5k-00038EC; Sat, 12 Aug 95 09:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mwarchut@scully.oit.umass.edu (Michael Warchut) Subject: Why do I get this error??? Date: 12 Aug 1995 15:36:29 GMT Message-Id: <40ihpt$aj7@nic.umass.edu> Problems restoring permissions of folder /var/spool/mail/brad! -- *---------------------------------------------------* | Michael W. Warchut Voice: 413-545-2036 | | Senior Technician Fax : 413-545-2418 | | PC Maintenance Lab You breakem I fixem | | University of Mass 50% of the time!! | *---------------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 12 18:38:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23925; Sat, 12 Aug 95 18:38:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29684; Sat, 12 Aug 95 18:35:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29678; Sat, 12 Aug 95 18:35:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shRsj-00038DC; Sat, 12 Aug 95 18:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy) Subject: Pine vs Elm Date: 13 Aug 1995 02:12:43 +0100 Message-Id: <40jjib$k6s@bell.maths.tcd.ie> I have to choose between elm and pine for a large (180) freshman class next year. What are the merits and demerits of these rivals ? Neither seems to come with very good documentation. [I'd prefer something in texinfo format, given a choice.] Is there any independent documentation available? What are the relative usages of the two ? Are both reasonably certain to survive ? Any and all opinions gratefully received. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 12 23:42:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29448; Sat, 12 Aug 95 23:42:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11116; Sat, 12 Aug 95 23:41:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11110; Sat, 12 Aug 95 23:41:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shWi9-00038EC; Sat, 12 Aug 95 23:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stanley Tomshinsky Subject: NNTP newsgrps Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 07:49:25 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I am new to Pine. I didn't figure out how to read the newsgroups on Pine...I have .newsrc and a NNTP setup on an Amiga, but when I open I can't get the newsgroups listing or anything...in fact I am reading newsgroups from AmigaMosaic....Stan :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: :: :: stom@galactica.it :: :: :: :: Stanley Tomshinsky via Fiori Chiari 20 Milano 20121 Italia :: :: :: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 01:21:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01546; Sun, 13 Aug 95 01:21:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04833; Sun, 13 Aug 95 01:17:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04827; Sun, 13 Aug 95 01:17:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shY9l-00038DC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 01:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Pollak Subject: Re: NNTP newsgrps Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 04:06:15 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 13 Aug 1995, Stanley Tomshinsky wrote: > Hello, I am new to Pine. I didn't figure out how to read the newsgroups > on Pine...I have .newsrc and a NNTP setup on an Amiga, but when I open > I can't get the newsgroups listing or anything...in fact I am reading > newsgroups from AmigaMosaic....Stan Stan, you need to put the NNTP setup in the PINE Config file. At the Main Menu, hit S for Setup and C for Config. Then put the name of your news server where it says NNTP-Server. (If you don't know what it is, ask your system administrator.) And while you're in the config file, you might as well make and X where it says "enable expanded view of folders" and "enable aggregate commands," both of which will save you time when you use Pine as a newsreader. __________________________________________________________________________ Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 04:35:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05292; Sun, 13 Aug 95 04:35:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14112; Sun, 13 Aug 95 04:31:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14106; Sun, 13 Aug 95 04:31:36 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 13 Aug 95 19:29:17 +0800 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 19:29:17 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Rahul Dhesi Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Are these headers going to cause problems? In-Reply-To: <40igq4$2t3@bug.rahul.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Aug 1995, Rahul Dhesi wrote: > I believe that the BNF, which includes the line: > > msg-id = "<" addr-spec ">" ; Unique message id > > settles the issue. Sure.....if you don't read and understand the rest of the RFC. Anyway, this is not a pine issue, more like an ietf-822 issue ....so off pine list. I wouldn't have put this on the pine list either...but my direct message from yesterday is still in the output queue. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 08:22:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08326; Sun, 13 Aug 95 08:22:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16158; Sun, 13 Aug 95 08:17:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16152; Sun, 13 Aug 95 08:17:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sheiw-00038DC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 08:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Elizabeth Malekzadeh Subject: Re: Pine vs Elm Date: 13 Aug 1995 14:24:37 GMT Message-Id: <40l1v5$dr3@nyheter.chalmers.se> References: <40jjib$k6s@bell.maths.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have to choose between elm and pine for a large (180) freshman class next year. What are the merits and demerits of these rivals ? Neither seems to come with very good documentation. [I'd prefer something in texinfo format, given a choice.] Is there any independent documentation available? What are the relative usages of the two ? Are both reasonably certain to survive ? Any and all opinions gratefully received. -------------------- Personally, I prefer pine! I've been using both for quite a while and IMHO it's much easier to use pine. However, using elm, you can (for example) "read" MIME attachments without down loading the stuff.. with pine you have to write it in a file first. Hard to say which one is better... both have their positive and negative sides! -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%THOUGHT OF THE WEEK%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Life %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% must be lived forwards, %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% but %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% can only be understood backwards. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% "SOREN KIERKEGAARD" %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 08:36:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08575; Sun, 13 Aug 95 08:36:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16265; Sun, 13 Aug 95 08:30:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lightlink.satcom.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16259; Sun, 13 Aug 95 08:30:37 -0700 Received: (from jsheldon@localhost) by lightlink.satcom.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA21509; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 08:40:07 -0700 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 08:40:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Jon Sheldon To: Stanley Tomshinsky Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: NNTP newsgrps In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 13 Aug 1995, Stanley Tomshinsky wrote: > Hello, I am new to Pine. I didn't figure out how to read the newsgroups > on Pine...I have .newsrc and a NNTP setup on an Amiga, but when I open > I can't get the newsgroups listing or anything...in fact I am reading > newsgroups from AmigaMosaic....Stan I just got my setup right. Try putting an X in the block. [X] news-approximates-new-status [X] news-post-without-validation [X] news-read-in-newsrc-order Good luck. BTW, what kind of Amiga are you on and where can I get a copy of AmigaMosaic? Jon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 08:37:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08615; Sun, 13 Aug 95 08:37:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10034; Sun, 13 Aug 95 08:32:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10028; Sun, 13 Aug 95 08:32:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shezJ-00038DC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 08:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Arthur H. Johnson" Subject: highlight problem Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 11:02:23 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I use Pine 3.91 (or try to) with 2 different servers. The one from which I am sending this is a freenet, and I have no problems with Pine here. The other is a relatively new commercial server, and when I use Pine on it everything is highlighted, and I can't tell where I am. The system administrator claims that the problem is at my end, but I'm quite sure it isn't for 3 reasons. One is that Pine works great from my other server. Two is that the problem appears on 2 different comm programs I've tried. Three is that the same problem occurs regardless of whether I'm using my computer at home or the one at the office. You may wonder why I don't just use the freenet all the time, but I get a busy signal about 95% of the time when I try to connect. I am going to be using e-mail for business purposes and I need to have both a reliable connection and an e-mail program (preferably Pine) which works right. Please send responses by mail. I'll read them at 2 a.m. when I'm able to connect. Art Johnson afn19689@freenet.ufl.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 09:07:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09152; Sun, 13 Aug 95 09:07:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16587; Sun, 13 Aug 95 09:02:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16581; Sun, 13 Aug 95 09:02:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shfQ2-00038DC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 08:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ralphs@halcyon.halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) Subject: Re: Pine vs Elm Date: 13 Aug 1995 15:22:24 GMT Message-Id: <40l5bg$7oa@news1.halcyon.com> References: <40jjib$k6s@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <40l1v5$dr3@nyheter.chalmers.se> Elizabeth Malekzadeh writes: >I have to choose between elm and pine >for a large (180) freshman class next year. >What are the merits and demerits of these rivals ? Use whichever one is easier to support. I have found that pine is better than elm for neophytes, as they usually need to be retrained after taking a lunch break. Besides, Pine Is Neo-logistically Elm. -- Northwest Nexus, Inc. - Professional Internet Services ISDN -- don't take SLOW for an answer! info@nwnexus.wa.com, finger info@halcyon.com, or: +1 206 455 3505 voice From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 09:08:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09185; Sun, 13 Aug 95 09:08:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10448; Sun, 13 Aug 95 09:02:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10442; Sun, 13 Aug 95 09:02:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shfT1-00038HC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 09:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ivan.szanto@dataware.hu Subject: IMAP & sun-mailtool Date: 13 Aug 1995 17:55:14 +0200 Message-Id: <40l792$9k6@helka.iif.hu> I use both IMAP & sun-mailtool. Sometimes when I receive a message sent with mailtool and I read it with IMAP, it will be separated in 2 or more parts. For example when I forward a message with mailtool, the message will contain the following 3 lines (approx): ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From sztaki!FlashBack.com!flash Tue Feb 7 16:09 MET 1995 IMAP will cut the message into 2 messages, though with mailtool I could read the message as one. The problem is more annoying, because after only visiting (and not reading) the message with IMAP, mailtool becomes also unable to read the message correctly. I think, mailtool uses one of the headers Content-Length or X-Lines, to recognize, that this is one message, rather than two. Is this a known compatibility problem? Is there a fix for it? I tried Keith Moore's sun-to-mime program to resolve this problem, but it didn't work. thanx a lot for any answer in advance, Ivan Szanto ivan.szanto@dataware.hu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 10:35:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10587; Sun, 13 Aug 95 10:35:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17415; Sun, 13 Aug 95 10:27:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17409; Sun, 13 Aug 95 10:27:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shgnh-00038DC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 10:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hurtta@dionysos.fmi.fi (Kari E. Hurtta) Subject: Re: IMAP & sun-mailtool Date: 13 Aug 1995 16:52:07 GMT Message-Id: <40lajn$ott@kronos.fmi.fi> References: <40l792$9k6@helka.iif.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Article <40l792$9k6@helka.iif.hu> of "ivan.szanto" [ Added comp.mail.misc as receiver. Followups to comp.mail.misc ] ivan.szanto@dataware.hu writes in comp.mail.{pine,mime}: »I use both IMAP & sun-mailtool. Sometimes when I receive a message »sent with mailtool and I read it with IMAP, it will be separated in »2 or more parts. »For example when I forward a message with mailtool, the message will »contain the following 3 lines (approx): »----- Begin Included Message ----- » »From sztaki!FlashBack.com!flash Tue Feb 7 16:09 MET 1995 »IMAP will cut the message into 2 messages, though with mailtool »I could read the message as one. The problem is more annoying, »because after only visiting (and not reading) the message with »IMAP, mailtool becomes also unable to read the message correctly. »I think, mailtool uses one of the headers Content-Length or »X-Lines, to recognize, that this is one message, rather than two. »Is this a known compatibility problem? Is there a fix for it? Your IMAP server don't support that mailbox format where "From " -lines are not escaped. Instead there is Content-Length -header, which tells lenght of body of mail in mailbox in bytes. Yes, you have compatibility problem between your local mailer and IMAP server. (Your local mailer does actual delivery to mailbox.) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 11:46:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11566; Sun, 13 Aug 95 11:46:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12234; Sun, 13 Aug 95 11:32:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12222; Sun, 13 Aug 95 11:32:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shhmt-00038DC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 11:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ken Manheimer Subject: Re: [Unix Pine 3.91] save: "Unable to append mail to file" Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 14:18:51 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > I (ken) had written: > > Howdy. > > > > I use pine for previewing and quick-handling of my email deluge, and a > > more automatable email interface (emacs vm) for systematic foldering, > > folder perusal, etc. (Work dynamics as they are, i wind up using pine > > predominantly.) My problem is that pine more-than-occasionally > > rejects vm folders for saves. On Thu, 10 Aug 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > That error message indicates that you attempted to append a message to a > file that is not in any recognized mail box file format. The format of > mail box files is not specified by any RFC, and more likely than not emacs > vm has its own ideosyncratic format that is not known to Pine. No, as i tried to say, pine accepts the majority of folder i create using pine. However, it does not accept a few, and those few totally disrupt my efforts to do my "foldering" from pine. Morever, those few that it rejects are readable using, eg, Unix mail, and maybe even Pine itself! > You would probably be very upset if Pine were to write a message to an > executable binary file, or to a shell script, because you mistyped a name. > You'd also be upset if Pine were to write a message to a vm mail box file > using some other mail box format (meaning that vm wouldn't recognize it as > a message). I realized that, which is why i was asking for relaxation, and not elimination, of the constraints! If you like, i can try to create, and post, a small mail folder which pine rejects for foldering, but which, eg unix mail *and* pine accept for reading as mail folders. > I hope that you now recognize that a "relaxation of the constrains of > folder type for saves" is not what you want. Rather, i think you misapprehended what i was requesting! I was aware of the usefulness of rejecting unrelated folders! > If you want to write to an arbitrary file, the command to use is Export; I'm surprised you missed when i said: > > in a file when i wish to do so! (I realize that i can use 'export', > > but it loses information. And besides, it doesn't do completion - i > > hope that's being corrected in the next release! - which makes the > > foldering process much more clunky...) So i request relaxation of the (Also, i mentioned that i was curious about the prospects for another release - any word on that?) ken ken.manheimer@nist.gov, 301 975-3539 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 15:46:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15293; Sun, 13 Aug 95 15:46:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15177; Sun, 13 Aug 95 15:43:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15171; Sun, 13 Aug 95 15:43:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shlhU-00038EC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 15:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stom@galactica.it Subject: Re:NNTP newsgrps Date: Sun, 13 Aug 95 23:46:40 GMT+1 Message-Id: <19950813.7BEB160.15622@stom.galactica.it> References: > Hello, I am new to Pine. I didn't figure out how to read the newsgroups > on Pine...I have .newsrc and a NNTP setup on an Amiga, but when I open > I can't get the newsgroups listing or anything...in fact I am reading > newsgroups from AmigaMosaic....Stan Well I did get the newsgroup reading going. Reading the instuctions... and the help.guide is fine...GOOD PROGAM........Stan :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: :: :: stom@galactica.it :: :: :: :: Stanley Tomshinsky via Fiori Chiari 20 Milano 20121 Italia :: :: :: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 17:01:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16782; Sun, 13 Aug 95 17:01:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21148; Sun, 13 Aug 95 16:58:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21142; Sun, 13 Aug 95 16:58:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shmrg-00038UC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 16:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pjh@mccc.edu (Pete HOLSBERG) Subject: Posting A Mail Message Message-Id: Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 23:36:06 GMT Is there any way in pine to post a mail message to a Usenet Newsgroup rather than exporting it and then posting the contents of the resulting file? Thanks, Pete From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 17:46:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17602; Sun, 13 Aug 95 17:46:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16667; Sun, 13 Aug 95 17:43:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16661; Sun, 13 Aug 95 17:43:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shnbb-00038YC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 17:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rock-Man Subject: Saved Messages Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 20:21:50 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to know how to change the subject of a message. Also how to put two or more different messages into one. Any help would be great. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rock Wigger wiggers@river.it.gvsu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 18:47:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18510; Sun, 13 Aug 95 18:47:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22130; Sun, 13 Aug 95 18:43:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22124; Sun, 13 Aug 95 18:43:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shoY6-00038cC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 18:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeff McLellan Subject: Pine & Procmail Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 21:24:54 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've read that Procmail can be used as a delivery filter with Pine. I've found Procmail but can do nothing with it. I have decompressed it but now all I have is a 660KB(+/-) "Procmail" file. I've looked for help files at several WWW locations but all I find mentions the fact that Procmail can be used with Pine...but none explain how to set it up in my UNIX home directory...basicly I have no clue on what to do with it or how to set it up. If anyone can offer me directions to resources or help files (or just a clue) - I'll greatly appreciate it. Thank you, ------------------------------- |Jeff McLellan |"I distrust the incommunicable; it is |a.k.a.: atticus@mainelink.net |the source of all violence" - Sartre | : scout@server.nlbbs.com | ------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 20:55:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20593; Sun, 13 Aug 95 20:55:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18928; Sun, 13 Aug 95 20:53:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18922; Sun, 13 Aug 95 20:53:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shqWu-00038lC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 20:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vecsey@course2.harvard.edu (Lester Vecsey) Subject: [PGP] - New Version of PINE Date: 14 Aug 1995 03:22:38 GMT Message-Id: <40mfhu$duv@decaxp.harvard.edu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Instead of just adding a system call to the pgp program from within PINE (the new version that is, 3.92?) it would be really nice if there was an option during compilation to fully integrate PGP into the PINE program. This way PGP encryption would be done completely in the background, and the keys etc signatures could be parsed out on the fly and not be displayed at all by default. In this way PGP would appear completely transparent. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP Signed with TinSign 1.1 iQCVAwUBMC7CBVMwpZR/o0fhAQECUAQA27vfoOslfFRxjGd813Gt/Fz8PeP7q/vK DM7MfEWBEvhwI4E1iCoK0deP8xcE1Fdtdbgtj/BLviqaNR/eWyWC4po1SLj1Dlq/ HmQa6fcm0dXXax0zHoApGQFRJv1IOsFo0YZHDAGLDAWmI9rfYg1JfPs4xE4gdak5 yjuVE5CfbwU= =ZbRb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 21:41:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21511; Sun, 13 Aug 95 21:41:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23927; Sun, 13 Aug 95 21:38:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23921; Sun, 13 Aug 95 21:38:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shrIM-00038nC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 21:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hywel@ksc.au.ac.th (Hywel Phillips) Subject: Word-wrap? Date: 14 Aug 1995 04:23:44 GMT Message-Id: <40mj4g$d33@abac.au.ac.th> Does anyone know whether it is possible to change the number of columns - some of my mails get messed up by other systems - I'd like to get it down to around 65 or so. Thanks for any help. -- Hywel Phillips Digital Creation email: hywel@ksc.au.ac.th From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 22:10:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22148; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:10:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20080; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:08:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20074; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:08:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shrgx-00038nC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: How to send a MIME mail? Date: 14 Aug 1995 04:49:08 GMT Message-Id: <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Hi, I am new to the pine, so lots of stuff there I am not familiar, especially the MIME part. Can anybody tell me how to send a variety of MIME mail instead of just "Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN", for example, can I send a "text/html" mail, so that when others read this mail, it will automatically pop up a mosaic or netscape browser to let others read the mail contents? Thanks in advance! -- I believe a leaf of grass is no less than the journeywork of the stars, And the pismire is equally perfect, and a grain of sand, ... lark@cs.iastate.edu lark@iastate.edu http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~lark/homepage.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |Z|h|e|n|g|,|L|i| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -- -- I believe a leaf of grass is no less than the journeywork of the stars, And the pismire is equally perfect, and a grain of sand, ... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 22:29:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22447; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:29:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24436; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:27:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jumbo.ntplx.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24430; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:27:45 -0700 Received: from quoin1.UUCP by ntplx.net (4.1/NETPLEX-2.0.2) id AA23324; Mon, 14 Aug 95 01:26:19 EDT Received: by quoin1.quoininc.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shrwQ-000HuAC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 01:20 EDT Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 01:20:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: Hywel Phillips Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Word-wrap? In-Reply-To: <40mj4g$d33@abac.au.ac.th> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 14 Aug 1995, Hywel Phillips wrote: > Does anyone know whether it is possible to change the number of > columns - some of my mails get messed up by other systems - Currently not possible in pine-3.91 but will supposedly be available in the next release. An alternative is to use the alternate editor feature and use an editor where you can control the number of columns. Works like a charm. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jean Pierre LeJacq Quoin, Inc Suite 200 North local voice: +1.203.295.0874 124 Mount Auburn Street voice: +1.617.576.5885 Cambridge, MA 02138-5700 fax: +1.617.576.5876 U.S.A. Internet: jplejacq@quoininc.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 22:30:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22488; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:30:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24466; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:28:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24460; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:28:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shs0k-00038tC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@popeye.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 05:00:29 GMT Message-Id: <40ml9d$bu8@news.iastate.edu> <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 22:30:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22505; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:30:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24482; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:29:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24476; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:29:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shs0Q-00038sC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@popeye.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 05:00:09 GMT Message-Id: <40ml8p$bsr@news.iastate.edu> <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 22:31:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22535; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:31:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24474; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:29:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24468; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:29:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shs0O-00038qC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@popeye.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 04:58:16 GMT Message-Id: <40ml58$br6@news.iastate.edu> <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- -- I believe a leaf of grass is no less than the journeywork of the stars, And the pismire is equally perfect, and a grain of sand, ... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 22:31:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22578; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:31:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20334; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:29:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20326; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:29:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shs0P-00038rC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@popeye.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 04:59:38 GMT Message-Id: <40ml7q$brj@news.iastate.edu> <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 22:32:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22610; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:32:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20302; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:28:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20296; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:28:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shs0M-00038oC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@popeye.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 04:52:54 GMT Message-Id: <40mkr6$bpb@news.iastate.edu> <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- -- I believe a leaf of grass is no less than the journeywork of the stars, And the pismire is equally perfect, and a grain of sand, ... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 22:40:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22718; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:40:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20443; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:38:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20437; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:38:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shsA1-00038oC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: How to send a MIME mail? Date: 14 Aug 1995 05:02:15 GMT Message-Id: <40mlcn$bui@news.iastate.edu> Hi, I am new to the pine, so lots of stuff there I am not familiar, especially the MIME part. Can anybody tell me how to send a variety of MIME mail instead of just "Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN", for example, can I send a "text/html" mail, so that when others read this mail, it will automatically pop up a mosaic or netscape browser to let others read the mail contents? Thanks in advance! -- lark@cs.iastate.edu lark@iastate.edu http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~lark/homepage.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 22:40:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22723; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:40:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20475; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:39:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20448; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:39:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shsB6-00038rC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@popeye.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 05:03:14 GMT Message-Id: <40mlei$buq@news.iastate.edu> <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 22:43:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22804; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:43:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24589; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:39:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24583; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:38:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shsAW-00038qC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@popeye.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 05:03:03 GMT Message-Id: <40mle7$bup@news.iastate.edu> <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 22:50:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22993; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:50:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24662; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:46:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ksc.au.ac.th by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24656; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:45:51 -0700 Received: by ksc.au.ac.th (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA14313; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:43:17 +0700 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:43:16 +0700 (TST) From: Hywel Phillips To: Jean Pierre LeJacq Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Word-wrap? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote: > > Does anyone know whether it is possible to change the number of > > columns - some of my mails get messed up by other systems - > > Currently not possible in pine-3.91 but will supposedly be available > in the next release. > > An alternative is to use the alternate editor feature and use an > editor where you can control the number of columns. Works like a > charm. Thanks, any suggestions as to an editor ? Hywel Phillips Digital Creation email: hywel@ksc.au.ac.th From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 23:14:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23506; Sun, 13 Aug 95 23:14:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24984; Sun, 13 Aug 95 23:11:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ngriffin.itc.gu.edu.au by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24972; Sun, 13 Aug 95 23:10:47 -0700 Received: from chimaera.itc.gu.edu.au (seanv@chimaera.itc.gu.edu.au [132.234.28.11]) by ngriffin.itc.gu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA19756; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:09:57 +1000 Received: (from seanv@localhost) by chimaera.itc.gu.edu.au (8.6.10/8.6.10) id QAA03835; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:09:14 +1000 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:09:14 +1000 Message-Id: <199508140609.QAA03835@chimaera.itc.gu.edu.au> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Sherry Lake , Steve Holstead , Terry Gray , Chip Old , Frank Yao , Andrew Bennett From: Sean Vickery Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia Subject: Runaway Pine bug solved, patch included Keywords: pine, runaway, bug, poll [If you reply or followup to this, could you please Cc: me as I read neither pine-info nor comp.mail.pine.] Fellow Pine users, After some frustrating months of tracking down runaway Pine processes each day and killing them by hand, I decided to find and fix the cause of the problem in the Pine sources. Some debugging revealed that the hanging Pines are doing a tight loop in read_with_timeout(). The logic in this function is slightly awry; it does not cater for read(terminal) returning zero bytes. My patch is at the end of this message; it's a one-line fix. Not one Pine has run away since I patched them a week ago. Before I patched Pine, I was getting about one runaway Pine per day per machine on average. I saw the problem only with Pine 3.91. Pine 3.89, which we still use on some of our machines, has never runaway on us. Pine 3.91 was running away on both Solaris 2.3 and 2.4. If there are any Pine developers reading this, perhaps you could fix the bug in the next release of Pine. Cheers for now, Sean. -- Sean Vickery Ph: +61 (0)7 3875 6410 Systems Programmer Information Services Griffith University =================================================================== RCS file: /opt/cvs/pd/pine/pine/ttyin.c,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 retrieving revision 1.2 diff -c -r1.1.1.1 -r1.2 *** 1.1.1.1 1995/01/13 00:16:30 --- 1.2 1995/08/14 05:57:29 *************** *** 1,5 **** #if !defined(lint) && !defined(DOS) ! static char rcsid[] = "$Id: ttyin.c,v 4.56 1994/10/11 22:53:43 mikes Exp $"; #endif /*---------------------------------------------------------------------- --- 1,5 ---- #if !defined(lint) && !defined(DOS) ! static char rcsid[] = "$Id: ttyin.c,v 1.1.1.1 1995/01/13 00:16:30 seanv Exp $"; #endif /*---------------------------------------------------------------------- *************** *** 389,395 **** dprint(1, (debugfile, "\n\n** Error reading from tty : %s\n\n", error_description(errno))); ! if(errno == EINTR) return(NO_OP_COMMAND); if(ps_global->inbox_stream != NULL){ --- 389,395 ---- dprint(1, (debugfile, "\n\n** Error reading from tty : %s\n\n", error_description(errno))); ! if(res < 0 && errno == EINTR) return(NO_OP_COMMAND); if(ps_global->inbox_stream != NULL){ -- Sean Vickery Ph: +61 (0)7 3875 6410 Systems Programmer Information Services Griffith University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 23:37:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23898; Sun, 13 Aug 95 23:37:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25239; Sun, 13 Aug 95 23:34:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25233; Sun, 13 Aug 95 23:34:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sht2Z-00038sC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 23:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pickerin@phoenix.sas.muohio.edu (Robert A. Pickering Jr.) Subject: Re: PINE 3.92 - [PGP] - When!? Message-Id: <40m86i$5q1k@rose.muohio.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 01:17:06 GMT References: <40eaon$8pa@decaxp.harvard.edu> Well, I mentioned this before, but I hope the integration isn't too seamless. The problem with seamless integration is that it causes one to loose all the benefits of having a pass phrase in the first place. Digital signatures are only meaningful if you can guarantee that the person sending the message is the person who signed it. If I have a program that automatically signs my mail, then if I leave my terminal unattended or if someone guesses my password to my account (something that is limited to 8 characters on my Unix account) then I'm hosed. All they have to do is send mail, and poof, my signature appears. That's not the functionality I'm looking for. And if it automatically decrypts items that are encrypted with my public key. That's even worse. Just my $0.02 worth. I'll now get off my soapbox. You may return to your regularily scheduled program. -Rob Lester Vecsey (vecsey@course2.harvard.edu) wrote: : So when will PINE 3.92 be released and how seamless will the PGP be : integrated into it? : -- -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 23:52:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24108; Sun, 13 Aug 95 23:52:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21392; Sun, 13 Aug 95 23:49:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21386; Sun, 13 Aug 95 23:49:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shtGu-000390C; Sun, 13 Aug 95 23:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sean Vickery Subject: Runaway Pine bug solved, patch included Date: 14 Aug 1995 06:09:11 GMT Message-Id: <40mpa7$j8c@ngriffin.itc.gu.edu.au> [If you reply or followup to this, could you please Cc: me as I read neither pine-info nor comp.mail.pine.] Fellow Pine users, After some frustrating months of tracking down runaway Pine processes each day and killing them by hand, I decided to find and fix the cause of the problem in the Pine sources. Some debugging revealed that the hanging Pines are doing a tight loop in read_with_timeout(). The logic in this function is slightly awry; it does not cater for read(terminal) returning zero bytes. My patch is at the end of this message; it's a one-line fix. Not one Pine has run away since I patched them a week ago. Before I patched Pine, I was getting about one runaway Pine per day per machine on average. I saw the problem only with Pine 3.91. Pine 3.89, which we still use on some of our machines, has never runaway on us. Pine 3.91 was running away on both Solaris 2.3 and 2.4. If there are any Pine developers reading this, perhaps you could fix the bug in the next release of Pine. Cheers for now, Sean. -- Sean Vickery Ph: +61 (0)7 3875 6410 Systems Programmer Information Services Griffith University =================================================================== RCS file: /opt/cvs/pd/pine/pine/ttyin.c,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 retrieving revision 1.2 diff -c -r1.1.1.1 -r1.2 *** 1.1.1.1 1995/01/13 00:16:30 --- 1.2 1995/08/14 05:57:29 *************** *** 1,5 **** #if !defined(lint) && !defined(DOS) ! static char rcsid[] = "$Id: ttyin.c,v 4.56 1994/10/11 22:53:43 mikes Exp $"; #endif /*---------------------------------------------------------------------- --- 1,5 ---- #if !defined(lint) && !defined(DOS) ! static char rcsid[] = "$Id: ttyin.c,v 1.1.1.1 1995/01/13 00:16:30 seanv Exp $"; #endif /*---------------------------------------------------------------------- *************** *** 389,395 **** dprint(1, (debugfile, "\n\n** Error reading from tty : %s\n\n", error_description(errno))); ! if(errno == EINTR) return(NO_OP_COMMAND); if(ps_global->inbox_stream != NULL){ --- 389,395 ---- dprint(1, (debugfile, "\n\n** Error reading from tty : %s\n\n", error_description(errno))); ! if(res < 0 && errno == EINTR) return(NO_OP_COMMAND); if(ps_global->inbox_stream != NULL){ -- Sean Vickery Ph: +61 (0)7 3875 6410 Systems Programmer Information Services Griffith University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 02:18:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26835; Mon, 14 Aug 95 02:18:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26965; Mon, 14 Aug 95 02:14:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26959; Mon, 14 Aug 95 02:14:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shvXd-00039DC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 02:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vecsey@course2.harvard.edu (Lester Vecsey) Subject: pico - text tab/space cleanup Date: 14 Aug 1995 08:39:23 GMT Message-Id: <40n23r$i4j@decaxp.harvard.edu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Is there a way to run a text tab/space cleanup operation? This function would go through and optimize the file by replacing spaces with tabs, packing them in... Also, is there an option to set the tab size when you view a document with tabs in it? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP Signed with TinSign 1.1 iQCVAwUBMC8MVlMwpZR/o0fhAQFHugQAue+1LKod6wsJPnRYwepjFFFUN3QfiR3w Kl+2WlnIKwg5DsZ5xv4KJgJqLsZloXqKwC+oqzr2DoI5SbBKyAq6eJNrQpFv8brh DLB8leYsMJSxgNmKn4rqQ8Ck4Bdrus420G3DaYNDDCFGeU4hZQeUEIXYN43ukn7M 80QqJRw/YTk= =ZkH8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 05:05:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00439; Mon, 14 Aug 95 05:05:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25383; Mon, 14 Aug 95 05:01:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25377; Mon, 14 Aug 95 05:01:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shyAk-00039GC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 04:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: srb@cuci.nl (Stephen R. van den Berg) Subject: Re: Pine & Procmail Date: 14 Aug 1995 11:19:57 GMT Message-Id: <40nbgt$ts1@hera.cuci.nl> References: Jeff McLellan wrote: >I've read that Procmail can be used as a delivery filter with Pine. I've >found Procmail but can do nothing with it. I have decompressed it but now >all I have is a 660KB(+/-) "Procmail" file. You probably hold in your hands now something that is commonly known as a "tar" file ("man tar" for details). >mentions the fact that Procmail can be used with Pine...but none explain >how to set it up in my UNIX home directory...basicly I have no clue on >what to do with it or how to set it up. To unpack this tar file, you could use something like: tar xvf procmail.tar Once you've done that, start reading the README and INSTALL files. -- Sincerely, srb@cuci.nl Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless). E Pluribus Unix. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 05:26:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00827; Mon, 14 Aug 95 05:26:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28841; Mon, 14 Aug 95 05:16:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28835; Mon, 14 Aug 95 05:16:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shyJv-00039HC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 05:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zxmgg01@hp17.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Giedke) Subject: Q: Auto-Reply Date: 14 Aug 1995 11:27:04 GMT Message-Id: <40nbu8$fce@newsserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de> If I will be unable to check my email for a couple of weeks - is there a way to tell pine to respond to every mail I receive with a short note, saying how long I don't read my mail? Thanks for your help. Geza Giedke From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 06:05:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01452; Mon, 14 Aug 95 06:05:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25910; Mon, 14 Aug 95 05:48:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25904; Mon, 14 Aug 95 05:48:38 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA21042; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:48:33 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id IAA27605; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:48:32 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA05928; Mon, 14 Aug 95 08:47:10 EDT Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:47:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Giedke Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Q: Auto-Reply In-Reply-To: <40nbu8$fce@newsserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 14 Aug 1995, Giedke wrote: > If I will be unable to check my email for a couple of weeks - is there a way to tell > pine to respond to every mail I receive with a short note, saying how long I don't read > my mail? > No, but you can tell Unix to do that with a .vaction file HOWEVER! Please don't do this, I believe every message you get from the pine-info list will result in a message to the list that you are on vacation, which will result in a message to the list that you are on vacation, which will result in a message to the list that you are on vacation, which will result in a message to the list that you are on vacation, which will result in a message to the list that you are on vacation, which will result in a message to the list that you are on .... Or you could unsubscribe from the list while you are away and then set up your vacation message. Have a good vacation. Regards, Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 06:20:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01670; Mon, 14 Aug 95 06:20:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29376; Mon, 14 Aug 95 06:16:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29370; Mon, 14 Aug 95 06:16:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shzJa-00039QC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 06:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ambrose@ix.netcom.com Subject: Need help with PICO on a RS/6000 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:46:28 GMT Message-Id: <40ngen$k0p@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> How do I get PICO to run on a RS/6000? I have an existing unix account on a SUN machine. Do I need the source and somehow compile it on the RS/6000? Thanks. Tony ambrose@ix.netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 06:21:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01703; Mon, 14 Aug 95 06:21:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26236; Mon, 14 Aug 95 06:16:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26230; Mon, 14 Aug 95 06:16:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shzDI-00039NC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 06:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ambrose@ix.netcom.com Subject: ignore - test Date: 14 Aug 1995 12:36:27 GMT Message-Id: <40ng0b$la7@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ignore From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 07:53:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03741; Mon, 14 Aug 95 07:53:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27581; Mon, 14 Aug 95 07:46:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27575; Mon, 14 Aug 95 07:46:55 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 14 Aug 95 22:44:39 +0800 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 22:44:38 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Don Sugarman Cc: Giedke , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Q: Auto-Reply In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, Don Sugarman wrote: > > On 14 Aug 1995, Giedke wrote: > > > If I will be unable to check my email for a couple of weeks - is there a way to tell > > pine to respond to every mail I receive with a short note, saying how long I don't read > > my mail? > > > No, but you can tell Unix to do that with a .vaction file > > HOWEVER! Please don't do this, I believe every message you get from > the pine-info list will result in a message to the list that you are on > vacation, which will result in a message to the list that you are on > vacation, which will result in a message to the list that you are on > vacation, which will result in a message to the list that you are on > vacation, which will result in a message to the list that you are on > vacation, which will result in a message to the list that you are on Looking at the man page for vacation: No message is sent if the To: or the Cc: line does not list the user to whom the original message was sent or one of a number of aliases for them, if the initial From line includes the string -REQUEST@, or if a Precedence: bulk or Precedence: junk line is included in the header. On good lists, pine being one of them, your name will not appear in the To: or Cc: which should prevent vacation messages going to the list. In addition, vacation will keep track of who it sent a notification to and will not send another notification until a predetermined time interval has expired. So, it is generally safe to use vacation without unsubscribing to the many lists for which you have subscriptions. Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 07:54:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03791; Mon, 14 Aug 95 07:54:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27658; Mon, 14 Aug 95 07:51:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27652; Mon, 14 Aug 95 07:51:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si0pD-00039QC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 07:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tcheney@stable.pop.upenn.edu (Timothy P. Cheney) Subject: Re: Need help with PICO on a RS/6000 Date: 14 Aug 1995 14:18:32 GMT Message-Id: <40nlvo$nas@netnews.upenn.edu> References: <40ngen$k0p@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> ambrose@ix.netcom.com wrote: : How do I get PICO to run on a RS/6000? I have an existing unix : account on a SUN machine. Do I need the source and somehow compile it : on the RS/6000? Thanks. : Tony : ambrose@ix.netcom.com Check ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu for precompiled pine/pico for AIX. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | tcheney@pop.upenn.edu | | Timothy P. Cheney (215) 898-3197 | | Population Studies Center | | 239 McNeil/6298 | | University of Pennsylvania | | Philadelphia, PA 19104 | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 09:29:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08010; Mon, 14 Aug 95 09:29:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29923; Mon, 14 Aug 95 09:26:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29917; Mon, 14 Aug 95 09:25:58 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA01732; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:25:56 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id MAA23635; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:25:54 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA08190; Mon, 14 Aug 95 12:24:33 EDT Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:24:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Ed Greshko Cc: Giedke , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Q: Auto-Reply In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, Don Sugarman wrote: > < S N I P > > > > > So, it is generally safe to use vacation without unsubscribing > to the many lists for which you have subscriptions. > Thanks, Ed. I've been afraid to use .vacation, since I've seen some vacation messages distributed through a couple of lists. Those vacationers must be using a substandard mailer. Don From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 10:04:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10002; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:04:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00901; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:00:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00895; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:00:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si2kW-00038TC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 09:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Q: Auto-Reply Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:24:45 -0400 Message-Id: References: <40nbu8$fce@newsserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 14 Aug 1995, Don Sugarman wrote: | On 14 Aug 1995, Giedke wrote: | | > If I will be unable to check my email for a couple of weeks - is there a way to tell | > pine to respond to every mail I receive with a short note, saying how long I don't read | > my mail? | > | No, but you can tell Unix to do that with a .vaction file | | HOWEVER! Please don't do this, I believe every message you get from | the pine-info list will result in a message to the list that you are on | vacation, which will result in a message to the list that you are on | [...] | Or you could unsubscribe from the list while you are away and then set up | your vacation message. [...] An alternative, if it is available to you, is to use procmail. You can set up filtering recipes which will ignore any postings from mailing lists and only send a vacation message to what is left. You can fine tune it to any degree desired. If formail is also installed on your system (this assumes you are using Unix, by the way), you can even set things up so that any given sender receives only one vacation notification. However, I must admit that using procmail is not entirely trivial. This whole queston is not really a Pine question at all, but it, as well as incoming mail filtering questions, comes up so often that I think it would be helpful if a FAQ could be posted periodically to deal with them. (No, I am not in a position to write such a FAQ -- I currently have other irons in the fire.) Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 10:04:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10072; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:04:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03477; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:00:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03471; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:00:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si2ka-00039cC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 09:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stanley Tomshinsky Subject: Headers? Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 15:54:02 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I changed my localhost back to "localhost" on a TIA to see if I can get a message to news groups...EMail worked anyway...so if this goes through look at header. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: :: :: stom@galactica.it :: :: :: :: Stanley Tomshinsky via Fiori Chiari 20 Milano 20121 Italia :: :: :: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 10:04:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10091; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:04:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03511; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:01:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03505; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:01:45 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23755; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:01:23 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 10:01:20 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "TEAL@netcom.com" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Question about "Bcc" in Version 3.89 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Most Mail Transports are smart enough to realize that your address was listed twice and only deliver one copy, so this is expected behavior... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 12 Aug 1995, TEAL@netcom.com wrote: > Date: Sat, 12 Aug 1995 02:03:03 GMT > From: TEAL@netcom.com > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Question about "Bcc" in Version 3.89 > > I recently sent an e-mail to eleven people. To avoid revealing their > addresses, I addressed the message to myself and "Bcc'ed" everyone else. > I also Bcc'ed myself, as I usually do when I send an important message. > However, I received only one message in my mailbox. I never received the > Bcc I sent myself. Shouldn't I have received two copies of the message? > Your e-mail response is appreciated. Thanks. > > --Jodi > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 10:05:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10184; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:05:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03485; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:00:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03479; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:00:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si2kX-00039bC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 09:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Posting A Mail Message Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:27:02 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 13 Aug 1995, Pete HOLSBERG wrote: | Is there any way in pine to post a mail message to a Usenet | Newsgroup rather than exporting it and then posting the | contents of the resulting file? | | Thanks, | Pete What version of Pine are you using? I post directly to Usenet newsgroups all the time directly from the 'compose' or 'reply' functions with Pine 3.91. I think this capability may not have been present in earlier versions of Pine. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 10:17:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10755; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:17:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03844; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:12:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03838; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:12:25 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24032; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:12:23 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 10:12:19 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Elizabeth Malekzadeh Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine vs Elm In-Reply-To: <40l1v5$dr3@nyheter.chalmers.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 13 Aug 1995, Elizabeth Malekzadeh wrote: > I've been using both for quite a while and IMHO it's much easier to use > pine. However, using elm, you can (for example) "read" MIME attachments > without down loading the stuff.. with pine you have to write it in a > file first. Hard to say which one is better... both have their positive > and negative sides! > Huh? Pine should be able to read any almost valid MIME attachment without downloading. What kind of attachments are you having trouble with? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 10:21:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10917; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:21:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03943; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:17:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03937; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:17:04 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24178; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:16:56 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 10:16:53 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Arthur H. Johnson" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: highlight problem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have seen this problem when the TERM environment variable was set to a broken driver on a Linux box. Changing to something else "fixed" the problem... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 13 Aug 1995, Arthur H. Johnson wrote: > Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 11:02:23 -0400 > From: Arthur H. Johnson > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: highlight problem > > I use Pine 3.91 (or try to) with 2 different servers. The one from which > I am sending this is a freenet, and I have no problems with Pine here. > The other is a relatively new commercial server, and when I use Pine on > it everything is highlighted, and I can't tell where I am. > > The system administrator claims that the problem is at my end, but I'm > quite sure it isn't for 3 reasons. One is that Pine works great from my > other server. Two is that the problem appears on 2 different comm > programs I've tried. Three is that the same problem occurs regardless of > whether I'm using my computer at home or the one at the office. > > You may wonder why I don't just use the freenet all the time, but I get a > busy signal about 95% of the time when I try to connect. I am going to be > using e-mail for business purposes and I need to have both a reliable > connection and an e-mail program (preferably Pine) which works right. > > Please send responses by mail. I'll read them at 2 a.m. when I'm able to > connect. > > Art Johnson > afn19689@freenet.ufl.edu > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 10:23:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11169; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:23:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01418; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:20:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01412; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:20:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si37p-00038TC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hywel@ksc.au.ac.th (Hywel Phillips) Subject: Word-wrap!!! Date: 14 Aug 1995 16:49:08 GMT Message-Id: <40nuq4$sqm@abac.au.ac.th> My apologies for asking a question that has already been answered. My most recently received post in this group is seven days old. Thanks for your immediate help ! -- Hywel Phillips Digital Creation email: hywel@ksc.au.ac.th From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 10:27:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11512; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:27:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04033; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:20:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04027; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:20:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si37q-00039bC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: db479394@oak.cats.ohiou.edu () Subject: Does SlipKnot work with PINE???? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:53:08 GMT thanks in advance! -- Darren T. Biggs----- db479394@oak.cats.ohiou There are Visions that are Dreams and Dreams that are Reality the Visionary is one who has the Dream and Achieves it. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 10:39:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12242; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:39:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04483; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:35:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04477; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:35:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si3Np-00039gC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@stimpy.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 16:36:18 GMT Message-Id: <40nu22$db@news.iastate.edu> <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 10:40:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12348; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:40:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01835; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:35:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01829; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:35:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si3No-00039fC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@stimpy.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 16:36:08 GMT Message-Id: <40nu1o$d9@news.iastate.edu> <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. 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From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 10:46:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12584; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:46:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04491; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:35:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04485; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:35:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si3Nq-00039iC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@stimpy.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 16:36:53 GMT Message-Id: <40nu35$dh@news.iastate.edu> <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 10:51:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12846; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:51:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01851; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:35:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01845; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:35:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si3Nr-00039jC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@stimpy.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 16:36:58 GMT Message-Id: <40nu3a$di@news.iastate.edu> <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 11:02:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13164; Mon, 14 Aug 95 11:02:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04784; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:50:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04777; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:50:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si3c9-00039gC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Frank R Prina Subject: SURNAME PRINA Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:18:00 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am looking for other family members around the world. The earliest reference I have is that my Grandfather, Ludovico, or Lodovico, PRINA was one of the sculptors who worked with Bartholdi in Paris on the Statue of Liberty and that he came to the U.S.A. 1884-1886 to assist in its erection and construction. He returned to Italy to bring his wife Angelina CRAVELLO Prina to the U.S.A. to live. I believe he was either born or at one time lived in Veglia, IT. and there is reason to believe he was also associated with Lyon, probably France. My Grandmother Angelina was born and raised in Biela, IT, 18 Km from the Great St Bernard Pass between Italy and France. If anyone named PRINA is ralated to a PRINA who worked on the Statue of Liberty we are related also. If your name is not PRINA but you know someone named PRINA, please ask if they know if any of their relatives worked with Bartholdi. I believe that fact would be of sufficient interest for families to remember and pass on to the next generation. He also had 5, 6 or 7 statues of his own work erected in Northern Italy. I have no information about my Grandmother prior to her my childhood, which would be in the early 1930's. Any help? Frank R Prina, 119 Woodward Avenue, Springville, NY, 14141, USA. frprina@buffnet.net.usa.na From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 12:50:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17847; Mon, 14 Aug 95 12:50:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04636; Mon, 14 Aug 95 12:45:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04630; Mon, 14 Aug 95 12:45:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si5Oc-00039fC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 12:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Pete HOLSBERG Subject: Re: Posting A Mail Message Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 19:33:42 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: Mime-Version: 1.0 On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Sun, 13 Aug 1995, Pete HOLSBERG wrote: > > | Is there any way in pine to post a mail message to a Usenet > | Newsgroup rather than exporting it and then posting the > | contents of the resulting file? > | > | Thanks, > | Pete > > What version of Pine are you using? I post directly to > Usenet newsgroups all the time directly from the > 'compose' or 'reply' functions with Pine 3.91. I think > this capability may not have been present in earlier > versions of Pine. 3.91 but we must be configured differently. If I reply to a mail message, it asks if there are both "From" and "Reply-To", but "help" says that it wants a legitimate e-mail address in the "To". How do you get around that?? Pete From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 13:32:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20176; Mon, 14 Aug 95 13:32:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08085; Mon, 14 Aug 95 13:26:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08079; Mon, 14 Aug 95 13:26:42 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00492; Mon, 14 Aug 95 13:26:36 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:26:29 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Ken Manheimer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Unix Pine 3.91] save: "Unable to append mail to file" In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 13 Aug 1995, Ken Manheimer wrote: > Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 14:18:51 -0400 > From: Ken Manheimer > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: [Unix Pine 3.91] save: "Unable to append mail to file" > > > I realized that, which is why i was asking for relaxation, and not > elimination, of the constraints! If you like, i can try to create, and > post, a small mail folder which pine rejects for foldering, but which, eg > unix mail *and* pine accept for reading as mail folders. > That would be very helpful. Please send it as an attachment so we are sure to see the right bits ;) > (Also, i mentioned that i was curious about the prospects for another > release - any word on that?) > Pine 3.92 is coming, but we don't have a timetable for it yet... --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 15:03:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24990; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:03:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10305; Mon, 14 Aug 95 14:57:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from coil-ether.nist.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10299; Mon, 14 Aug 95 14:57:24 -0700 Received: by coil.nist.gov (4.1/SMI-3.2-del.7-klm.4) id AA11061; Mon, 14 Aug 95 17:57:23 EDT Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 17:57:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Manheimer Reply-To: ken.manheimer@NIST.gov To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Unix Pine 3.91] save: "Unable to append mail to file" In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1900044792-1750862685-808437442=:10817" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1900044792-1750862685-808437442=:10817 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, David L Miller wrote: > On Sun, 13 Aug 1995, Ken Manheimer wrote: > > > I realized that, which is why i was asking for relaxation, and not > > elimination, of the constraints! If you like, i can try to create, and > > post, a small mail folder which pine rejects for foldering, but which, eg > > unix mail *and* pine accept for reading as mail folders. > > That would be very helpful. Please send it as an attachment so we are > sure to see the right bits ;) Thanks. I've tracked the offending format down - pine requires the date number on the first line of the file to occupy two spaces, even when it's a single digit date. (Most mail folder-ers pad the date with a space, but one that i used at least in 1992 did not, causing my problem.) The attachment contains an example of this. SunOS 4 bin/mail and ucb/mail, and SunOS 5 mailx, all accept it without blinking. I do recommend relaxing the pine mailbox criterion, to at least allow this variance, and even more. Personally, i expect that just requiring a leading "From " at the very beginning of the file would be sufficient to weed out the non-mail files, particularly if there actually is no formal standard for unix-mail format files - i suspect that's a commonly used criterion. > > (Also, i mentioned that i was curious about the prospects for another > > release - any word on that?) > > > > Pine 3.92 is coming, but we don't have a timetable for it yet... Cool. (I presume the export command will be getting completion, and i'd also like to suggest having the expunge-confirmation come *before* the quit confirmation, when exiting with `no-quit-without-confirm' set.) Thanks for taking a look at this. ken ken.manheimer@nist.gov, 301 975-3539 --1900044792-1750862685-808437442=:10817 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=pinecant Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: RnJvbSBrbG1AbmlzdC5nb3YgRnJpIERlYyAyIDEzOjI0OjI0IDE5OTQNCkZy b206IE1lIDxrbG1AbmlzdC5nb3Y+DQpUbzoga2xtQGNtZS5uaXN0Lmdvdg0K U3ViamVjdDogUmU6IFtVbml4IFBpbmUgMy45MV0gc2F2ZTogIlVuYWJsZSB0 byBhcHBlbmQgbWFpbCB0byBmaWxlIg0KRGF0ZTogRnJpLCAyIERlYyA5NCAx MzoyNDoyNA0KDQpQaW5lIGRvZXMgbm90IGFjY2VwdCBzaW5nbGUtZGlnaXQg ZGF0ZSBudW1iZXJzIG9uIHRoZSBpbml0aWFsIG1haWxib3gNCidGcm9tICcg bGluZSwgd2hpbGUsIGVnLCBVbml4IG1haWwgZG9lcy4NCg0Ka2VuDQo= --1900044792-1750862685-808437442=:10817-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 15:24:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25965; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:24:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10747; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:21:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10741; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:21:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si7oM-00039pC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pakp@nicanor.acu.edu (Peter Pak) Subject: changing inbox Date: 14 Aug 1995 20:59:29 GMT Message-Id: <40odfh$sd3@nicolas.acu.edu> Is there a way that you can set the system mailbox so that users get their mail in their home directories? I am not talking jsut about pine (I can set that through the conf files), but also ipop and imap. I have tried setting the SYSTEM_MBOX (?) in the c-client/osdep.h file, but it does not seem to work. How do I do this? Or where do I look? I have looked through the documentation, but maybe I just missed it. TIA Peter Pak From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 15:49:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27152; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:49:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08967; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:46:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08961; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:46:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si8GA-00039sC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stanley Tomshinsky Subject: INBOX Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:08:25 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Maybe I should ask my netserver galactica.it, but they are on vacation. And they give Eudora to all...and I am running Amiga.......Well I left inbox-path "inbox" so as not to connect right away...since when I try {192.106.152.1}inbox I get a 192.106.152.1,143 doesn't accept the con- nection...Now I get my mail QWKed to me and that is okay for now. Galactica.it is a PC bbs and they use ms dos & windows software to give you an idea...What is the usual mail procedure SMTP which I have installed with my NNTP?...is the 143 indicating that...I also have Pop3 installed. Is my "{192.106.152.1}inbox" OK. Also Galactica connects use to SLIP via TIA...and I found out that to have NNTP work on pine, I had to keep my localhost name "localhost". And that is why I put user-domain with my email address so it would be somewhere in the header. If anyone could help me I would greatly appreciate it...Have a good summer to all............Stan user-domain : stom@galactica.it smtp-server : 192.106.152.1 nntp-server : 192.106.152.1 inbox-path : inbox incoming-folders : {192.106.152.1}inbox :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: :: :: stom@galactica.it :: :: :: :: Stanley Tomshinsky via Fiori Chiari 20 Milano 20121 Italia :: :: :: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 16:01:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27771; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:01:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09240; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:58:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09234; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:58:24 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10925; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:58:05 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 15:58:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray Reply-To: Terry Gray To: Sven Guckes , stevedav@netcom.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Common mail groupware software In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Steve, Sven: I don't know of any mail software that prevents replies to messages currently being viewed or replied-to, however, it is possible to quickly notify others that a message has been replied-to or deleted by using a mailbox format that permits concurrent updates of message status flags. If you combine such a mailbox format with an IMAP daemon, you can make changes in message status visible to all the concurrent users, on potentially different platforms. There is still a potential race condition where two people can begin replying to the same message nearly simultaneously, but it is still much better than having no idea what the other people are doing. Concurrent access to a mailbox by multiple users is one of the strenghths of IMAP, but you have to use a mailbox format that is amenable to this functionality. In addition, you could consider modifying an IMAP client to use IMAP message flags in a way that would simulate advisory locking for purposes of a Reply function. Either the Cyrus IMAP server from CMU or the UW IMAP server using TENEX format mailboxes will fill the bill (although the TENEX format prohibits expunging unless there is only one user, but flag --message status-- updates, e.g. Deleted or Answered, may be made by multiple users concurrently, and IMAPd will notify every user agent of any changes.) Putting the locking burden on imapd allows you to use any IMAP clients on any platforms. Alternatively, you can have everyone run Pine on a single machine and again use TENEX as the mailbox format. -teg On 11 Aug 1995, Sven Guckes wrote: > stevedav@netcom.com (Steve Davidson) writes: > >Can someone please direct me to MAIL or MESSAGING software > >that allows a group of people to share a single mail queue. > >I'd need simple message locking so that when one person is read/responding > >to mail, others see the lock and cannot respond to the same message. > > "Locking" is so non-trivial that I suggest to either set up a mailing list > or create a local newsgroup. You could also make the mail folder available > as a web page but then everybody *could* read it. Oh, well. > Anyway, if you're only *reading* from the same folder then there should be no > problem. YOu only need locking if new mail will be put into the folder. > > Sven > > Cc: stevedav@netcom.com (Steve Davidson) > > -- > ELM - the screen oriented mail program. Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm > ELM versions: Latest release: ELM 2.4 PL24 || ELM 2.5 is still in alpha > The "ELM Pages" - all about ELM on the World Wide Web: > http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ [950801] > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 16:04:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27923; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:04:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11683; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:01:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11677; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:01:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si8ME-00039rC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@shazam.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 22:03:29 GMT Message-Id: <40oh7h$997@news.iastate.edu> <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 16:04:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27925; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:04:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09346; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:01:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09340; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:01:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si8MF-00039sC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@shazam.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 22:03:38 GMT Message-Id: <40oh7q$999@news.iastate.edu> <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 16:04:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27988; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:04:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11691; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:01:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11685; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:01:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si8MF-00039tC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 22:07:17 GMT Message-Id: <40ohel$9ac@news.iastate.edu> cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> in newsgroup comp.mail.pine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 16:05:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28071; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:05:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09354; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:01:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09348; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:01:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si8MG-00039uC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 22:07:38 GMT Message-Id: <40ohfa$9ah@news.iastate.edu> cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> in newsgroup comp.mail.pine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 17:22:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01671; Mon, 14 Aug 95 17:22:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13416; Mon, 14 Aug 95 17:16:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13410; Mon, 14 Aug 95 17:16:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si9fH-00039vC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 17:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Posting A Mail Message Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 19:48:23 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, Pete HOLSBERG wrote: | On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, Paul O Bartlett wrote: | | > On Sun, 13 Aug 1995, Pete HOLSBERG wrote: | > | > | Is there any way in pine to post a mail message to a Usenet | > | Newsgroup rather than exporting it and then posting the | > | contents of the resulting file? | > | | > | Thanks, | > | Pete | > | > What version of Pine are you using? I post directly to | > Usenet newsgroups all the time directly from the | > 'compose' or 'reply' functions with Pine 3.91. I think | > this capability may not have been present in earlier | > versions of Pine. | | 3.91 but we must be configured differently. If I reply to a | mail message, it asks if there are both "From" and | "Reply-To", but "help" says that it wants a legitimate | e-mail address in the "To". | | How do you get around that?? | | Pete Are you trying to post to a newsgroup via email? To post directly, put the cursor anywhere in the header and press Ctrl-R, for "rich headers." That should display a field for newsgroups. Of course, the computer system you are on must be configured properly to make use of that feature. (That's a system administration function I admit I am not an expert on.) If you are replying to a newsgroup post in a newsgroup folder, Pine should ask you if you want to reply to the newsgroup. If you say that you do, it will fill in the newsgroups field for you. If you are replying to an email, rather than a newsgroup posting, maybe I'm not sure just what the problem is. Newsgroups and mailing lists are not actually the same thing. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 19:06:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03978; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:06:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14834; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:01:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14828; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:01:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siBBR-0003A0C; Mon, 14 Aug 95 18:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: changing inbox Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 18:14:34 -0700 Message-Id: References: <40odfh$sd3@nicolas.acu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <40odfh$sd3@nicolas.acu.edu> On 14 Aug 1995, Peter Pak wrote: > Is there a way that you can set the system mailbox so that users get their > mail in their home directories? I am not talking jsut about pine (I can > set that through the conf files), but also ipop and imap. I have tried > setting the SYSTEM_MBOX (?) in the c-client/osdep.h file, but it does not > seem to work. How do I do this? Or where do I look? I have looked > through the documentation, but maybe I just missed it. TIA Are you talking about having mail delivered to the home directory? Pine does not deliver mail. If you are talking about recognizing a file on the home directory as INBOX, modify the routine env_init() in c-client/env_unix.c -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 19:10:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04092; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:10:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12891; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:01:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12885; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:01:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siBBQ-00039zC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 18:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: [Unix Pine 3.91] save: "Unable to append mail to file" Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 18:10:23 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 13 Aug 1995, Ken Manheimer wrote: > > That error message indicates that you attempted to append a message to a > > file that is not in any recognized mail box file format. The format of > > mail box files is not specified by any RFC, and more likely than not emacs > > vm has its own ideosyncratic format that is not known to Pine. > No, as i tried to say, pine accepts the majority of folder i create using > pine. However, it does not accept a few, and those few totally disrupt > my efforts to do my "foldering" from pine. Morever, those few that it > rejects are readable using, eg, Unix mail, and maybe even Pine itself! Let me try again. Internally, Pine has a series of tests in which it classifies files by what format they are. Once the file has been classified by type, operations performed on the file are handled by specific code (called "drivers") for each type. For example, there is a "get message header by message number" function, which is different for each type. One of the functions is "append additional message to this file". That error message is generated when you call the "append" function for a file of type "arbitrary text". You can do certain other things with a file of type "arbitrary text". You can open it in Pine, in which case it will appear as a single message with a pseudo-header containing the file author and create date for its "From" and "Date" headers. But you can not append to such files. > If you like, i can try to create, and > post, a small mail folder which pine rejects for foldering, but which, eg > unix mail *and* pine accept for reading as mail folders. Please do. I will be happy to analyze it. But please be sure that you are actually reading it as a mail box file, and not as an arbitrary file. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 19:48:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04895; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:48:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15352; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:47:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15346; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:47:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siC0c-0003A1C; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Does SlipKnot work with PINE???? Date: 15 Aug 1995 02:31:33 GMT Message-Id: <40p0u5$hl3@grape.epix.net> References: db479394@oak.cats.ohiou.edu wrote: ... Nothing, but the header was 'Does SlipKnot work with PINE????' : thanks in advance! Yes, SlipKnot works just fine with PINE ... email or post if you need any help. G'Day. /\ /~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 19:50:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04946; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:50:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13601; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:47:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13595; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:46:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siBwU-00039yC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Word-wrap? Date: 15 Aug 1995 02:25:11 GMT Message-Id: <40p0i7$hl3@grape.epix.net> References: <40mj4g$d33@abac.au.ac.th> Hywel Phillips (hywel@ksc.au.ac.th) wrote: : Does anyone know whether it is possible to change the number of : columns - some of my mails get messed up by other systems - : I'd like to get it down to around 65 or so. : Thanks for any help. OK now don't laugh, because I have read the other posts about 'alternative editors' and such, and IMHO yes pine (actually pico) doesn't support it, your terminal program might ... I'm using Windowz terminal ... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ... excuse me I fell asleep there for a minute ... Uuhhhh ... anyway, you can set it to word wrap outgoing text (mine is to to column 70, but the default is 79 which is NFG) ... anyway where was I ... Oh yes, Check your communications software, maybe that can do it? Hope this helps ... only my 895 cents worth (plus tax) G'Day /\ /~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 15 01:50:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12555; Tue, 15 Aug 95 01:50:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18393; Tue, 15 Aug 95 01:47:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18387; Tue, 15 Aug 95 01:47:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siHdX-0003AbC; Tue, 15 Aug 95 01:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bradleb1@cq-pan.cqu.edu.au (Bradley Bristow-Stagg) Subject: Securing PINE Date: 15 Aug 1995 08:23:42 GMT Message-Id: <40plie$pjq@janus.cqu.edu.au> Greetins, My name is Brad J B Bristow-Stagg and I am a sys admin at the Central Queensland University for CQ-PAN. We are thinking of using PINE as our new mail reader. Currently all users have a menu a/c (none but admin have bash a/c's). I was wondering if someone could either point me in the direction of where in the source code that I have to change so that users can't read in any other file other than the .sig specified in the .pinerc, and also if there are any other things I have to take into consideration. My thanks for your time. I would ask that all replies are send via e-mail as I don't get much time to check news. Once again my thanks.. Brad J B Bristow-Stagg CQ-PAN Systems Administrator. -- /---------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Bradley J B Bristow-Stagg | IRC/MUD : Shanor | | B. Information Technology | E-Mail : bradleb1@cq-pan.cqu.edu.au | | Central Queensland University | Or : bristowb@topaz.cqu.edu.au | \---------------------------------------------------------------------/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 15 01:54:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12612; Tue, 15 Aug 95 01:54:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19543; Tue, 15 Aug 95 01:47:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19537; Tue, 15 Aug 95 01:47:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siHdX-0003AcC; Tue, 15 Aug 95 01:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cdh@worf.MR.Net (Chris D. Halverson) Subject: Re: PINE 3.92 - [PGP] - When!? Date: 14 Aug 1995 10:06:15 -0500 Message-Id: References: <40eaon$8pa@decaxp.harvard.edu> <40m86i$5q1k@rose.muohio.edu> In-Reply-To: pickerin@phoenix.sas.muohio.edu's message of 14 Aug 1995 01:17:06 >>>>> "Robert" == Robert A Pickering writes: In article <40m86i$5q1k@rose.muohio.edu> pickerin@phoenix.sas.muohio.edu (Robert A. Pickering Jr.) writes: Robert> Well, I mentioned this before, but I hope the integration Robert> isn't too seamless. I have to agree here. I do want some sort of integration, but it _has_ to ask me my pass phrase to sign/decrypt/etc. messages. Like Robert said, if it does it all automatically, why bother using it? The key point here is integration, I don't want to have to rely on using alternative-editors to use PGP. I want it to be a keystroke (much like the ME versions of elm), but I do not want it taking any actions automatically. Just my thoughts on this... Chris -- Chris D. Halverson | Network Engineer Minnesota Regional Network | Voice: (612) 342-2838 511 11th Avenue South, Box 212 | Email: cdh@MR.Net Minneapolis, MN 55415 | WWW: http://www.MR.Net/~cdh/ PGP signed/encrypted mail accepted, finger for PGP public key From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 15 02:36:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13278; Tue, 15 Aug 95 02:36:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18764; Tue, 15 Aug 95 02:17:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18758; Tue, 15 Aug 95 02:17:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siI2n-0003AbC; Tue, 15 Aug 95 02:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeff McLellan Subject: Filtering FAQ (Pine info) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 04:32:57 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Following is the Filtering FAQ...which is very useful to Pine users and relevent to this group. It should be posted weekly. I'll be willing to throw it up weekly unless some subscribers to this group disagree, otherwise kill file the sucker if you don't like it. (Do a 'http://www.webcrawler.com search for Procmail and you'll find additional stuff) Here it goes: ************** Current Hypertext Version: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html _____________________________________________________ ________| |________ \ | FILTERING MAIL FAQ | / \ | Copyright (c) 1994, 1995 Nancy McGough and others | / / |_____________________________________________________| \ /___________) (__________\ TABLE OF CONTENTS 0.0 Preliminaries 0.1 Getting the Latest Version of this FAQ 0.1.1 Hypertext 0.1.2 Plain Text 0.2 Terminology 0.3 Notation 1.0 Mail Folder Strategies 1.1 Naming Incoming Mail Folders 1.2 Reading Incoming Mail Folders 2.0 Procmail 2.1 Setting Up Procmail 2.1.1 Is Procmail on Your System? 2.1.2 Setting Up Procmail for Testing 2.1.3 Testing 2.1.4 Setting Up Procmail to Filter Mailing List Messages 2.2 Troubleshooting Procmail 2.2.1 General Strategies 2.2.2 Alternate .forward files 2.3 Explanation of Test Recipe 2.4 Tracking Your Incoming Mail 2.5 Procmail References 3.0 Mailagent 3.1 Setting Up Mailagent 3.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail 3.3 How Safe Mailagent Processing Is? 3.4 Locking Under Mailagent 3.5 Folder Types Supported 3.6 Mailagent References 4.0 Filter 4.1 Setting up Filter 4.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail 4.3 Filter References 5.0 Mailer and Newsreader References 6.0 Contributors 6.1 Acknowledgements 6.2 Contributing to this FAQ 7.0 Copyright Notice ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:00:00 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.0 Preliminaries Q: How can I have my incoming mailing-list messages automatically put into appropriate folders? This is one of the most frequently asked questions about email. This FAQ provides basic instructions for Unix users to set up either procmail, mailagent, or elm's filter to filter incoming mailing-list messages. If you have a choice, I recommend procmail which is powerful, robust, and is actively developed and supported. All these mail processors can also be set up to filter other types of incoming messages, send automated replies, etc. For instructions see the relevant references listed below. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:00:10 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.1 Getting the Latest Version of this FAQ If this FAQ is over a couple months old, there may be an updated version. Please get the latest hypertext or plain text version from one of the places listed below. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:00:11 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.1.1 Hypertext The best way to read this FAQ (and most other FAQs too) is to view the hypertext version using a Web browser such as Cello, Lynx, Mosaic, Netscape, OmniWeb, SpiderWoman or WinWeb. This will allow you to easily jump: * between subjects in the FAQ * to any Uniform Resource Locator (URL) in the FAQ * to an Internet Request For Comments document (RFC) * to some manual pages This, and all FAQs that are crossposted to news.answers, are available at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/top.html This particular FAQ is at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:00:12 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.1.2 Plain Text The plain text version is regularly posted to comp.mail.misc, comp.mail.elm, comp.mail.pine, comp.answers, and news.answers. It's in digest format which means that you may be able to use your newsreader to easily move between digest items (e.g., nn uses G% to burst a digest and trn uses ^G to jump to the next digest item). The FAQ is also available through: Anonymous FTP: ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering_mail_faq.txt ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq Email: Send mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu containing the following: send usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq UUCP: uunet!/archive/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq Hard Copy: A printed version of this FAQ is in Chapter 25 of the book "Internet Secrets" by John R. Levine and Carol Baroudi; published 1995 by IDG Books; ISBN 1-56884-452-2. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:00:20 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.2 Terminology Term Meaning ==== ======= mailer or MUA Mail user agent such as pine or elm pico PIne COmposer - a user friendly editor reader Mailer, newsreader, or Web browser that can read mail folders regular expression Text that can include "wild cards" (such as . to match any single character); used for searching ^x Press the Ctrl key and then, while holding down the Ctrl key, press the x key ~ or $HOME Your home directory. You can always get to your home directory by typing `cd'. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:00:30 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.3 Notation Notation Meaning ======== ======= TextName placeholder; replace with appropriate text placeholder; replace with appropriate text without the angle brackets `text' text you type but without the quotes "text" text you type including the double quotes 'text' text you type including the single quotes [Key] press the key, e.g., [Space], [Enter], or [Tab] ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:01:00 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 1.0 Mail Folder Strategies It is a good idea to come up with a system for naming and reading your mail folders. With a good system, you will have an easier time managing the hundreds (or thousands!) of messages you will receive. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:01:10 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 1.1 Naming Incoming Mail Folders For my incoming mail folders I use names that start with `IN'. For example, I put mail sent to the procmail mailing list into a folder named IN.procmail. This way when all my folders are listed alphabetically the incoming folders are together and near the top. They are near the top because Unix is case sensitive and upper case letters come before lower case letters in an ascii sort. Of course, you can use any names you like for your mail folders! ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:01:20 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 1.2 Reading Incoming Mail Folders Here are some instructions for opening a mail folder that's in the default folder directory for some mailers and newsreaders. Default Folder Reader Directory Command line command From within reader ====== ============== ==================== ================== elm ~/Mail elm -f =folder c =folder pine ~/mail pine -if folder G folder mail ~/mail mail -f /path/folder nn ~/News nn +folder G +folder (Please send me information for other mailers and newsreaders.) Pine has an incoming-folder variable which you can use to list your incoming folders in a separate section of your folder list (to view your folder list in Pine, type `L'). Setting this variable also allows you to use the Tab key to step through all new messages in all your incoming folders. For more information see the question "How can I filter messages into different incoming folders?" in the Pine FAQ: http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/usage.html#filter IMPORTANT NOTE ============== If you are going to be editing your incoming mail folder, e.g., deleting messages, then your filtering program and your folder reader should use locking schemes that work together. Otherwise, if mail is delivered at the same time that you are deleting a message your folder may be corrupted. To learn more about locking see the question "What is folder locking and how does it work?" in the Pine FAQ. This is useful to read even if you don't use Pine as your mailer. http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/faq/errors.html#locking Most mailers, such as pine and elm, use lock a file named `folder.lock' to lock the folder named `folder'. Note that nn does not lock folders so you probably don't want to use nn to delete messages in a folder that is receiving incoming messages. (Please send me info about locking in other mailers and newsreaders.) For more information about specific mailers and newsreaders, see the relevant documentation, such as man pages and Web pages. Some pointers to documentation are listed in section 5.0. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:00 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.0 Procmail Procmail is a powerful mail processor that can be used to process your mail messages either as they arrive or after they are in a mail folder. To find out how to process an existing mail folder see the NOTES section of the procmail(1) man page. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:10 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.1 Setting Up Procmail To set up and test procmail, follow the ten steps given in sections 2.1.1 through 2.1.4 below. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:11 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.1.1 Is Procmail on Your System? 1] To find out if procmail is on your system and what the full path to it is, type one of the following commands: Shell Command ===== ======= csh which procmail sh or ksh type procmail various whereis procmail various where procmail Make a note of the full path to procmail because this is needed in step 5b below. You can find out the version by typing: procmail -v The latest released version, as of 15 April 1995, is 3.10. Version 3.11 should be out soon. If your system doesn't have procmail or doesn't have the latest version, you may want to ask your system administrator to install it. The procmail package of tools is at: ftp://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz If your sys admin isn't able to do this, use a different mail processor like mailagent (described in section 3 of this FAQ) or filter (described in section 4). ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:12 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.1.2 Setting Up Procmail for Testing 2a] Create ~/.procmailrc. cd pico .procmailrc NOTE: Throughout this article I use pico for editing files. Replace `pico' with your editor. 2b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.procmailrc. Note that lines that begin with # are comments and are ignored by procmail. #Set on when debugging VERBOSE=off #Replace `mail' with your mail directory (Pine uses mail, Elm uses Mail) MAILDIR=$HOME/mail #Directory for storing procmail log and rc files PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.testing INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.maillists 3] Create the directory where you will store your procmail log and rc files (this is $PMDIR that you set above). cd mkdir .procmail 4a] Create an rc (run commands) file for testing: cd .procmail pico rc.testing 4b] Enter the following in ~/.procmail/rc.testing: :0: * ^Subject:.*test IN.testing Note that the first line contains a zero (0), not the letter "oh". For now, don't worry about the meaning of this recipe. It is explained in 2.3 "Explanation of Test Recipe." 5a] Create a ~/.forward file by typing the following. (Pico's -w flag tells pico not to auto wrap lines.) cd pico -w .forward 5b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.forward: "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/local/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #nancym" == IMPORTANT NOTES == * Make sure you include all the quotes, both double (") and single ('). * The vertical bar (|) is a pipe. * Replace /usr/local/bin with the correct path for procmail (see step 1). * Replace `nancym' with your userid. You need to put your userid in your .forward so that it will be different than any other .forward file on your system. * Do NOT use ~ or environment variables, like $HOME, in your .forward file. If procmail resides below your home directory write out the *full* path. 5c] On many systems you need to make your .forward world readable and your home directory world searchable in order for the mail transport agent to "see" it. To do this type: cd chmod 644 .forward chmod a+x . ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:13 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.1.3 Testing 6] Send yourself two test messages: one with `test' in the subject and one without `test' in the subject. 7] Start your mailer (pine, elm, etc.) and check that the messages were delivered correctly. The one with `test' in the subject should be in the folder $MAILDIR/IN.testing and the one without `test' in the subject should be in your inbox. If these were not delivered correctly, see section 2.2 on "Troubleshooting Procmail" section below. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:14 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.1.4 Setting Up Procmail to Filter Mailing List Messages 8a] Once you have successfully tested procmail in steps 6 and 7, create rc.maillists for filtering incoming mailing-list messages into mail folders. cd cd .procmail pico rc.maillists 8b] In rc.maillists, create a recipe, like the two example recipes below, for each of your mailing lists. :0: * ^TOwww-talk IN.www-talk :0: * ^TOprocmail IN.procmail The first recipe filters the www-talk mailing list and the second recipe filters the procmail mailing lists. The meaning of the first recipe is as follows: Notation Meaning ======== ======= :0 Begin a recipe : Use a lock file * Begin a condition ^TO Match ``To:'' ``Cc:'' or other synonyms for To at the beginning of a line, followed by any or no characters, followed by.... www-talk ``www-talk'' IN.www-talk If successful match, put in folder $MAILDIR/IN.www-talk IMPORTANT NOTES =============== * ^TO is not a normal regular expression; it is a special procmail expression that is designed to catch any destination specification. For details, see the MISCELLANEOUS section of the procmailrc(5) man pages. * Do not put a space between the caret (^) and the word `TO' in `^TO'. * Do not put a space between the `^TO' and the text that you are matching on; it must be `^TOtext'. * Both letters in `TO' must be capitalized. 9] Repeat steps 6 and 7 to make sure that things are still working. 10] Comment out the rc.testing line in you .procmailrc file so that it looks like this: VERBOSE=off MAILDIR=$HOME/mail PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log # INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.testing INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.maillists NOTE: Leaving the rc.testing line in your .procmailrc file is useful for future testing. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:20 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.2 Troubleshooting Procmail If messages are not delivered correctly, here are steps you can use to try to solve the problem. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:21 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.2.1 General Strategies 1] Look at your $LOGFILE (~/.procmail/log) to see if you can determine what the problem is. 2] Check these three files for typos: ~/.forward ~/.procmailrc ~/.procmail/rc.testing 3] Check the file and directory permissions of your .forward (set in 5c in "Setting up Procmail for Testing" above). Type... In order to... ------- -------------- cd Go to your home directory. ls -l .forward Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r-- ls -ld . Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each (i.e., drwx--x--x, drwxr-xr-x, drwxr-x--x, drwx--xr-x are each acceptable.) 4] If the above three steps do not locate the problem edit your ~/.procmailrc so that it contains: VERBOSE=on Test procmail by following steps 6 and 7 again. Look at your $LOGFILE (which will contain verbose messages) to see if you can now determine what the problem is. If you are still having problems see the next section on "Alternate .forward Files." After you get procmail to work, you probably will want to set VERBOSE back to off. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:22 GMT From: "Stephen R. van den Berg" Subject: 2.2.2 Alternate .forward files If the .forward template in 5b above doesn't work the following alternatives might be helpful: In a perfect world: "|exec /usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym" In an almost perfect world: "|exec /usr/local/bin/procmail USER=nancym" In another world: "|IFS=' ';exec /usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym" In a different world: "|IFS=' ';exec /usr/local/bin/procmail USER=nancym" In a smrsh world: "|/usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym" These formats can be tried in different combinations, the leading "| can be tried as |" instead, or vice versa. NOTE ==== If your system uses procmail as its local delivery agent, you do not need a .forward file; simply having a .procmailrc files suffices. To find out if procmail is the local delivery agent, ask your system administrator. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:30 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.3 Explanation of Test Recipe The recipe you used for testing is: :0: * ^Subject:.*test IN.testing The meaning of this recipe is: Notation Meaning ======== ======= :0 Begin a recipe : Use a lock file * Begin a condition ^ Match the beginning of a line followed by.... Subject: ``Subject:'' followed by.... . any character (.) followed by.... * 0 or more of preceding character (any character in this case) followed by.... test ``test'' IN.testing If successful match, put in folder $MAILDIR/IN.testing ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:40 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.4 Tracking Your Incoming Mail You can use mailstat, a useful script that is part of the procmail package, to check your procmail log file. Check to see if it is on your system by typing either `which mailstat' or `type mailstat'. If it's on your system type: mailstat $HOME/.procmail/log This displays a concise version of your log file and moves your log file to log.old. You may want to put the above line in your .login so that each time you log in you will see a listing of how many messages you've received since the last time you ran mailstat, and what folders these messages were delivered to. You can get a mailstat listing of log.old by using the -o flag: mailstat -o $HOME/.procmail/log If mailstat is not on your system ask your system administrator to install it. The script is located with all the other procmail tools (see 2.1.1 above for the ftp location). ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:50 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.5 Procmail References Man Pages: procmail(1) - autonomous mail processor procmailrc(5) - procmail rc file procmailex(5) - procmail rc file examples procmailsc(5) - procmail weighted scoring techique egrep(1) - search file for regular expression (procmail uses egrep-style regular exprssions along with some of its own expressions like ^TO) formail(1) - mail reformatter sendmail(8) - send mail over the internet Newsgroup: comp.mail.misc Mailing List: procmail@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subscribe to the procmail mailing list by sending mail: To: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: subscribe Procmail Archives: Get a list of files available at the procmail mail server by sending mail: To: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: archive ls Get Best of the Procmail mailing list by sending mail (you'll need gzip and a MIME-decoder to unpack it): To: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: archive get best_of_procmail_list* ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:03:00 GMT From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.0 Mailagent Mailagent is a powerful mail processing package that can be used to process your mail messages, either at arrival time via a .forward hook or later on while they are already saved in a mail folder. Mailagent is written in Perl and hence has all the advantages of being interpreted, i.e. it is easy to enhance dynamically and to customize. This version of the FAQ describes the basics of setting up mailagent to process incoming mail messages from within a .forward. To find out about the more advanced features of mailagent, please refer to the mailagent(1) manual page. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:03:10 GMT From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.1 Setting Up Mailagent 1] First, make sure mailagent is available on your system. The easiest way to do this is to run: mailagent -V which will print the mailagent version if it is available, or the shell will issue an error message "mailagent: not found" or something like it. 2a] Now you need to understand the MTA (Mail Transport Agent, the program that delivers the mail; usually, sendmail) will NOT deliver to mailagent directly, rather to an intermediate (small) filter program. Two versions are available: shell or C -- refer to the mailagent(1) manpage to choose, but I recommend you use the C version first, and move to the shell version if you can't run a binary from your .forward file. 2b] Locate the filter program (it will be filter or filter.sh depending on whether you choose the C or the shell version respectively) under some directory like /usr/local/lib/mailagent. From now on, we'll assume we use the C filter and that it is located under /usr/local/lib/mailagent. 3] Copy the file /usr/local/lib/mailagent/mailagent.cf as ~/.mailagent and edit it to configure your system correctly. You will see two distinct sections in that file and you need to set-up properly the first one, the "Configuration section". If you have a version of mailagent that is recent enough (at least 3.0 PL32) then you can create an initial configuration very easily and quickly by running the following command: mailagent -I which will set-up an almost ready-to-use ~/.mailagent file. All you need to do at this point is go through its configuration section to make sure mailagent made the right choices... The minimal set of variables that MUST be correctly set (i.e. for which you cannot rely on the default set in the file) are (# introduces comment in a shell-like manner, which run up to the end of the line): home: # Your HOME directory, as reported by "echo $HOME", usually. path: # Path to be used to locate mailagent and perl, at least. p_xxx: # Path to be appended to "path" above when running on machine "xxx". user: # Your login name. name: # Your name. level: # Logging level. I recommend you raise it to 20 for testing. The mail folder directory is ~/Mail by default, but it can be changed only from within your rule file by putting maildir = ~/mail; at its top, for instance, to make it ~/mail. The rule file is defined as the "rules" parameter, and is set to ~/.rules by default. 4] Ensure the directories configured in your ~/.mailagent under "logdir" and "spool" and "queue" do exist. If you use the standard setting, this requires the following commands: cd mkdir var cd var mkdir log mailagent cd mailagent mkdir queue 5a] Create a rule file (named ~/.rules by default) for testing: cd vi .rules 5b] Enter the following in ~/.rules Subject: /test/ { SAVE testing }; The meaning of that rule should be pretty obvious: If we receive a mail whose subject line contains the word "test", then we save that mail in a folder named "testing", under the default folder directory (~/Mail). 5c] Create a ~/.forward file as follows: "|exec /usr/local/lib/mailagent/filter >> /export/home/ram/.bak 2>&1" The meaning of that line is the following: every mail should be piped (hence the leading "|" character) onto the filter program, and any output from that program (i.e. errors) are appended to some file in your home directory, with stderr following stdout (2>&1) in traditional sh syntax. == IMPORTANT NOTES == * Your .forward is always processed by sh, regardless of your login shell. * Replace /export/home/ram with your proper login directory full path. That's a part that makes your .forward unique (for zealous optimizing sendmail that are dead wrong about optimizing!) and that can save you a lot of trouble if anything goes wrong! Just look at your ~/.bak! * Replace /usr/local/lib/mailagent/filter with the proper filter path on your machine. 5d] Note that on many systems, you need to ensure your .forward will be readable by everybody, and that your home directory has the "x" bit set for everybody (i.e. can be part of a lookup path) so that sendmail can see and parse your .forward file. To ensure this, type: cd chmod a+r .forward chmod a+x . 6] Send yourself two test messages: one with "test" in the subject, and one without "test" in the subject. 7a] Checkout your ~/.bak file: it should be empty! 7b] Checkout your ~/var/log/agentlog file to see what really happened to your messages. Watch out for any ERROR or WARNING logs. This assumes you have left at least the default logging level (9) in the ~/.mailagent file (the "level" variable). But for testing, that level should be raised to 20 to help you diagnose what's going on. 7c] Look out in ~/Mail/testing. You should find there the message whose Subject line contained the word "test". Then make sure the other message has been delivered to your regular mailbox. (Since no match occurred in your rule file, the mail is left in your mailbox by default). 7d] TROUBLESHOOTING * If your mail was not properly delivered, please make sure your rule file and configuration file are correct by issuing the following command: mailagent -d * If the previous command does not output the single rule you should have put in ~/.rules, then please make sure step 3 and 4 above were correctly performed (those being the crucial steps ensuring a proper configuration). * Check the ~/.bak file for error messages. * Check for typos in any of these files: ~/.forward ~/.mailagent ~/.rules * Check the file and directory permissions of your .forward (set in step 5c above). Type... In order to... ------- -------------- cd Go to your home directory. ls -l .forward Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r-- ls -ld . Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each (i.e., drwx--x--x, drwxr-xr-x, drwxr-x--x, drwx--xr-x). * If none of the previous hints helped you identify problem, and you can't figure it out from the output in ~/.bak or in the ~/var/log/agentlog file (or whatever file you have configured for logging within your ~/.mailagent file, variables "log" and "logdir"), then make sure your mail is not waiting in the MTA's queue: this might be the case if the agentlog file is empty. If you are using sendmail as MTA, you can run: /usr/lib/sendmail -bp to print out the queue. * As a last resort, please look at the mailagent(1) manual page under the section "Testing Your Installation" for more tips and things to look at. 8] Once you have successfully tested mailagent in steps 6 and 7 above, you're on! Mailagent is ready to process your mail. All you have to do is extend the ~/.rules file to add more rules. For instance: To Cc: www-talk { SAVE www-talk }; To Cc: agent-users { SAVE agent-users }; Those two rules filter the two mailing lists www-talk and agent-users into their respective folders, whether the mailing list address appear in the To OR Cc header. Since rules are not qualified as a pattern match (contrary to our test above), they match on logins in the address, i.e. they will match things like www-talk@chip.com or chip!www-talk, or a plain simple www-talk if this is a local alias. (This implicit matching on logins works only for some selectors like To, Cc or From which are know to contain addresses). If you wish to sort on patterns appearing in the Subject of messages for instance, then you must use a pattern matching syntax, as in: Subject: /star trek/ { SAVE star-trek; }; to save in a folder "star-trek" all the messages whose subject contains the words "star trek". Case matters, but keep on reading... 9] As an advanced topic, since mailagent is written in Perl, you have all the power of Perl's regular expressions at your disposal. Which means you can write things like this: To Cc: agent-users { REJECT AGENT }; Subject: /^\w*subscribe/i { DELETE }; * { UNIQUE -a; SAVE agent }; The second lines makes use of that perl extended regular expression syntax: \w matches an alphanumeric character plus "_", while the trailing "i" option requests a case-insensitive match. You also note you have a real automaton at your disposal. You can enter a special state (AGENT in our example) and continue parsing by only scanning for rules tagged by this mode. The first match stops the automaton, unless you REJECT to continue processing. When not restricted by a mode list, a rule is always taken into account. For example, assuming the automaton is in the state "NEWS", it will not consider rules tagged , as in the above example. The automaton begins in mode "INITIAL". The "UNIQUE -a" action followed by a SAVE ensures only one copy per Message-ID will ever end-up in your agent folder -- no duplicates! Also note you can have more than one action per rule, and that the last one uses '*' to match anything, i.e. its action part between {} will always be executed in AGENT mode, when reached by the automaton. Also, since in Perl regular expression syntax, \b matches a word-boundary and \s any space or tab character, we can write our Star Trek message sorting into a much more robust form: Subject: /\bstar\s+trek\b/i { SAVE star-trek; }; (\s+ matches one or more white spaces, while \s* would match zero or more, see the Perl manual page for a complete description of regular expressions.) which will match on various subject strings like "Last Star Trek season" or "I am addicted to Star trek", but not on "Tristar treks" -- whatever that means :-) All in all, the filtering automaton syntax is pretty much intuitive and easy to read. You have to learn which actions are possible and what they mean, naturally. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:03:20 GMT From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail If you are curious about what mailagent does to your mail, you have two options: * Look at your "agentlog" file, with a log level set to 9. * Get a summary of all the actions performed by running: mailagent -summary This last option is only possible if you have initialized the statistics gathering process by creating a ~/var/mailagent/mailagent.st file (under the default setting from ~/.mailagent). You will get a clear picture of your processing, by seeing which rule match, how often, in which state, etc... You will also know how many times you SAVE or DELETE messages for instance. Actually, mailagent statistics are triggered by a simple mailagent -s command, the letters given after in the {u,m,a,r,y} set being options that alter the output given by the command. * Look at the ~/.bak occasionally to make sure no error is pending... ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:03:30 GMT From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.3 How Safe Mailagent Processing Is? As soon as the filter program has taken a hold on your message, you can rest assured the mail will get filtered one way or the other. If filter can't queue your mail, it will exit with an exit status of 75, that status being recognized by "sendmail" as a "deliver later on" hint, in which case the mail message will safely wait in sendmail's queue. So if filter gets your message, it immediately forks and exits with a 0 status for sendmail, letting it know its work is finished and releasing it to save resources. It then calls mailagent on the queued message (in mailagent's private queue) to actually process the message. Only after successful processing will mailagent delete the queued message. Hence, under an heavily loaded system, the worst that could happen would be a duplicate processing of a message, or a bounce back when sendmail cannot fork and exec the filter program from your .forward. Under catastrophic conditions, filter or mailagent will simply dump the message on stdout, for ~/.bak to catch, preceded by the reason why processing was aborted. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:03:40 GMT From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.4 Locking Under Mailagent By default, mailagent proceeds with a fixed locking scheme (.lock extension) plus flock() if asked to do so at Configure time. However, mailagent provides support for NFS-secure locks and also can use non-standard locking procedures, configurable from within ~/.mailagent (variables "nfslock" and "mboxlock"). However, it cannot support locking on a rule basis (yet!). The author is willing to raise the priority of that item if one comes up with a legitimate need for that feature that could not be worked-around by a PERL escape. ;-) ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:03:50 GMT From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.5 Folder Types Supported Mailagent can deliver mail to plain UNIX folders (also known as "mbox format"), to MMDF folders, to MH folders (with unseen sequence update built-in and using locks, not like rcvstore which does not!) or to directories (ala MH, but without unseen sequence support and with alternate naming possible). It also supports delivery to folders with the "x" bit set, in which case mailagent interprets those as being hooks. It either pipes the message to the "program" or further interprets the hook to do more processing. See the manual page mailagent(1) under the section "MAIL HOOKS" for more details. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:03:60 GMT From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.6 Mailagent References Man Pages mailagent(1) - reference manual page (about 47 pages troff'ed). perl(1) - reference manual for Perl sendmail(8) - send mail over the Internet Examples: agent/examples/rules - a commented rule file sample, from the distribution source tree. Newsgroup: comp.mail.misc Mailing List: agent-users@foretune.co.jp Subscribe to the list by sending mail: To: majordomo@foretune.co.jp subscribe agent-users Mailagent archives: FTP://ftp.foretune.co.jp/pub/network/mail/mailagent EMAIL: Send mail to the author's mailagent: To: ram@hptnos02.grenoble.hp.com Subject: Command @SH maildist - mailagent - ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:04:00 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 4.0 Filter Filter is part of the Elm package of tools. Note that you can use filter to filter your incoming mail even if you are not using Elm to read your mail. IMPORTANT NOTE ============== If your system has both procmail and filter installed then you should use procmail which is *much* more robust and powerful than filter. This recommendation is almost universal; even the developers of Elm and Filter recommend procmail over filter. IT IS POSSIBLE TO LOSE MAIL MESSAGES WHEN USING FILTER; this is rare but it has happened. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:04:10 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 4.1 Setting up Filter Followup-To: comp.mail.elm 1] Find out if filter is on your system and what the full path to it is. If you are using the C shell (csh) type: which filter Or, if you are using the Korn shell (ksh) or the Bourne shell (sh) type: type filter If neither ``which'' nor ``type'' are on your system try ``where'' and ``whereis''. If your system doesn't have filter ask your system administrator to install it; or even better ask her to install procmail. 2] Note the full path of your home directory by typing: cd pwd 3a] Create ~/.elm/filter-rules. (Note that throughout this article I use pico for editing files. Replace ``pico'' with your editor.) cd mkdir .elm cd .elm pico filter-rules 3b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.elm/filter-rules if (subject contains "test") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.testing" Replace /j/nancym with your home directory path (see step 2). Replace /Mail with the name of the directory where your mail folders are stored. Pine and Berkeley Mail use /mail (lower case m) and Elm uses /Mail (upper case M). 4] To see what the filter rule will do type the following at your Unix prompt: filter -r 5a] Create a ~/.forward file by typing the following. (Pico's -w flag tells pico not to auto wrap lines.) cd pico -w .forward 5b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.forward: "|/usr/local/bin/filter -o /j/nancym/.elm/filter-errors" == IMPORTANT NOTES == * Make sure you include the quotes ("). * The vertical bar (|) is a pipe. * Replace /usr/local/bin with the correct path for filter (see step 1). * Replace /j/nancym with your home directory (see step 2). * Do NOT expect environment variables, like $HOME, to work in your .forward file. * Do NOT expect ~ to mean your home directory in the .forward file. 5c] Note that on many systems you need to make your .forward is world readable and your home directory world searchable in order for the mail transport agent to "see" it. To do this type: cd chmod 644 .forward chmod a+x . 6] Send yourself two test messages: one with ``test'' in the subject and one without ``test'' in the subject. 7a] Start your mailer (pine, elm, etc.) and check that the messages were delivered correctly. The one with ``test'' in the subject should be in the folder IN.testing and the one without ``test'' in the subject should be in your inbox. If these were delivered correctly go on to step 8. 7b] TROUBLESHOOTING * If the two messages were not delivered correctly look at your ~/.elm/filter-errors to see if you can determine what the problem is. * Check these two files for typos: ~/.forward ~/.elm/filter-rules * Check the file and directory permissions of your .forward (set in 5c above). Type... In order to... ------- -------------- cd Go to your home directory. ls -l .forward Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r-- ls -ld . Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each (i.e., drwx--x--x, drwxr-xr-x, drwxr-x--x, drwx--xr-x). * If none of these turn up the problem edit your ~/.forward so that filter will be verbose with it's output (use the -vo flag). "|/usr/local/bin/filter -vo /j/nancym/.elm/filter-errors" And repeat steps 6 and 7. After you get filter to work you will probably want to change the ``-vo'' flag back to ``-o''. 8] After you have successfully tested filter in steps 6 and 7, edit ~/.elm/filter-rules so that it contains a modified version of the following: # if (subject contains "test") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.testing" if (to contains "www-talk") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.www-talk" if (to contains "hopos-l") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.hopos" Replace /j/nancym with your home directory path and /Mail with the name of your mail directory. Replace the mailing list string (e.g., "www-talk") and the name of the mail folder (e.g., IN.www-talk) with text for your mailing lists. Note that ``to contains...'' means either the To or Cc header contains... Rather than deleting the test line, it's useful to just turn it into a comment (by preceding it with #) so that you can easily use it for future testing. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:04:20 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 4.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail Followup-To: comp.mail.elm You can get a short summary of filter's activity by typing: filter -s For a longer summary type: filter -S Or you can look at the log file itself, ~/.elm/filterlog. You should regularly look at ~/.elm/filter-errors to make sure things are working. You can automatically check filter-errors each time you log in by putting the following in your .login: tail ~/.elm/filter-errors Also you probably want to regularly delete filterlog and filter-errors so they don't fill up your disk space. To get a summary of the filter log and clear it type: filter -cs ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:04:30 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 4.3 Filter References Followup-To: comp.mail.elm Web Pages: http://www.myxa.com/elm.html http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/elm.filter.html FAQs: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/elm/top.html Man Pages: filter(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:05:00 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 5.0 Mailer and Newsreader References PINE ==== Web Pages: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ FAQ: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/faq/ ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/faq Man Pages: pine(1), pico(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.pine (linked to Pine mailing list) Mailing List: pine-info@cac.washington.edu (linked to Pine newsgroup) Subscribe to the pine-info mailing list by sending mail to: majordomo@cac.washington.edu With... subscribe pine-info in the body of the message. ELM === Web Pages: http://www.myxa.com/elm.html http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ FAQs: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/elm/top.html Man Pages: elm(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm Emacs Mail Mode =============== Newsgroups: gnus.emacs.help and comp.emacs FAQ: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/GNU-Emacs-FAQ/part5/faq.html MH == FAQ: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mh-faq/top.html Man Pages: mh(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.mh MAIL ==== Man Pages: mail(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.misc NN == Web Pages: http://www.best.com/~ii/internet/nn/ FAQs: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/nn-faq/top.html Man Pages: nn(1) Newsgroup: news.software.nn (Please send me pointers to other mailer and newsreader references and let me know what newsreaders can read mail folders.) ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 6.0 Contributors This FAQ, like many others, is a collaborative effort. I learned a lot of the information in newsgroups and mailing lists, especially: comp.mail.* procmail mailing list Also, lots of people have mailed me information and I've tried to acknowledge them below. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:06:10 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 6.1 Acknowledgements Thanks to these people who sent suggestions: David L. Miller Cookie Monster Jim Showalter David W. Tamkin Rick Troxel Stephen R. van den Berg Syd Weinstein Special thanks to: Thomas A. Fine for setting up and maintaining the hypertext archive of FAQs. Congratulations to him for winning O'Reilly and Associates' "The Best of the Net" award! Please let me know if I've left you, or anyone else, out of this list. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:06:20 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 6.2 Contributing to this FAQ If you have any corrections, suggestions, or new digest items to contribute to this FAQ please send them to faq-editor@ii.com. If your reader understands the following URL, you can use it to send me mail: mailto:faq-editor@ii.com. Things I'm especially interested in are: * a comparison of mail filtering tools * what newsreaders can read mail folders * instructions for opening a specific folder in various readers * lock scheme and files used by various readers * other Unix filtering tools, like deliver * filtering tools for other operating systems like the Mac and DOS/Windows ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:07:00 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 7.0 Copyright Notice This FAQ is Copyright (c) 1994, 1995 Nancy McGough, except sections 2.2.2 and 3.0 through 3.6 which are Copyright (c) 1994, 1995 by the authors named in those sections. No portion of this work may be sold or put to commercial use without express written consent of the authors. This restriction covers publication in any form, or distribution by any method, which permits this work to be visually perceived, either directly or with the aid of any machine or device. Permission is granted to republish or redistribute this article in its entirety for noncommercial use if this copyright notice is not removed or altered. End of Filtering Mail Digest **************************** -- /\_/\ @..@ /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) http://www.halcyon.com/nancym/ ( o.o ) > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < ------------------------------- |Jeff McLellan |"I distrust the incommunicable; it is |a.k.a.: atticus@mainelink.net |the source of all violence" - Sartre | : scout@server.nlbbs.com |"Look out...behind you...I mean YOU" ------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 15 07:58:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19642; Tue, 15 Aug 95 07:58:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23605; Tue, 15 Aug 95 07:53:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23599; Tue, 15 Aug 95 07:53:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siNJo-0003AzC; Tue, 15 Aug 95 07:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: prw1@cornell.edu (Paul R. Weber) Subject: xbiff and pine Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 10:35:56 -0500 Message-Id: Is there a program like xbiff/biff that can be used with pine? Thanks! Paul R. Weber prw1@cornell.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 15 09:02:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22488; Tue, 15 Aug 95 09:02:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24573; Tue, 15 Aug 95 08:48:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24565; Tue, 15 Aug 95 08:48:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siOCQ-0003B1C; Tue, 15 Aug 95 08:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ken Manheimer Subject: Re: [Unix Pine 3.91] save: "Unable to append mail to file" Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 10:49:37 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1900044792-1933314124-808497214=:8339" In-Reply-To: Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1900044792-1933314124-808497214=:8339 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > On Sun, 13 Aug 1995, Ken Manheimer wrote: > > > That error message indicates that you attempted to append a message to a > > > file that is not in any recognized mail box file format. The format of > > > mail box files is not specified by any RFC, and more likely than not emacs > > > vm has its own ideosyncratic format that is not known to Pine. > > > > No, as i tried to say, pine accepts the majority of folder i create using > > pine. However, it does not accept a few, and those few totally disrupt Darn. That was supposed to be, "... pine accepts the majority of folders i create using *vm*." The point is that there is some small discrepancy in some otherwise mbox-conforming folders which other mail browsers accept, both for foldering and browsing, but which pine rejects. > Let me try again. > > [More elaborate explanation of why it is proper for pine to reject non- > mbox "arbitrary text" files.] I have been trying to say that i don't mean to suggest accepting arbitrary text files! Rather, there is some minor discrepancy in some folders which causes pine to reject it. > > If you like, i can try to create, and > > post, a small mail folder which pine rejects for foldering, but which, eg > > unix mail *and* pine accept for reading as mail folders. > > Please do. I will be happy to analyze it. But please be sure that you > are actually reading it as a mail box file, and not as an arbitrary file. > > -- Mark -- As it happens, David Miller also responded, asking for the sample, and in tracking down a valid, minimalist sample i identified the problem. Pine requires the date number on the first line of the file to occupy two spaces, even when it's a single digit date. (Most mail folder-ers pad the date with a space, but one that i used, at least in 1992, which is the date of an offending message i found, did not, causing my problem.) The attachment contains an example of this, as a single-entry mbox file. SunOS 4 bin/mail and ucb/mail, and SunOS 5 mailx (and vm), all accept it as an mbox-format file (displaying the sender and subject in the header summary, etc) without hesitation. Add a space before the date number, and pine then accepts it as an mbox, also. I think it would be sufficient and proper to impose a weaker criterion for distinguishing mbox-format files, though i guess you have to consider the other contingencies for the file-type "driver". Ideally, however, i think having "From " as the first characters in the file would be sufficient. You're probably just as likely to encounter a false positive from a file that has an excerpt of the first line from a valid mbox file as you are to encounter a non-mbox file that happens to start with "From ". You could always add the constraint that the last non-blank character of the first line be a digit, and eliminate almost all of the latter type of false positives, and still not exclude mbox files produced by slightly aberrant mail folder-ers... ken ken.manheimer@nist.gov, 301 975-3539 --1900044792-1933314124-808497214=:8339 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=pinecant Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Minimal example of rejected mbox format RnJvbSBrbG1AbmlzdC5nb3YgRnJpIERlYyAyIDEzOjI0OjI0IDE5OTkNCkZy b206IE1lIDxrbG1AbmlzdC5nb3Y+DQpUbzoga2xtQGNtZS5uaXN0Lmdvdg0K U3ViamVjdDogUmU6IFtVbml4IFBpbmUgMy45MV0gc2F2ZTogIlVuYWJsZSB0 byBhcHBlbmQgbWFpbCB0byBmaWxlIg0KRGF0ZTogRnJpLCAyIERlYyA5OSAx MzoyNDoyNA0KDQpQaW5lIGRvZXMgbm90IGFjY2VwdCBzaW5nbGUtZGlnaXQg ZGF0ZSBudW1iZXJzIG9uIHRoZSBpbml0aWFsIG1haWxib3gNCidGcm9tICcg bGluZSwgd2hpbGUsIGVnLCBVbml4IG1haWwgZG9lcy4NCg0Ka2VuDQo= --1900044792-1933314124-808497214=:8339-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 15 09:11:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23642; Tue, 15 Aug 95 09:11:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25323; Tue, 15 Aug 95 09:04:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25317; Tue, 15 Aug 95 09:04:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siOO6-0003B4C; Tue, 15 Aug 95 08:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: smithm28@atlas.co.uk (Mark Smtih) Subject: Receipt of message arrival with TCPIP??? Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:45:11 Message-Id: Hi there, I am sorry, but I'm probably the 1 millionth guy to ask this: (I'm sorry but I couldn't find any FAQ) Is there a possibilty, just as with the X.400 message handling, to be acknowledged that the person you have sent an email to, has received or has read it. Cheers, Mark From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 15 09:22:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24255; Tue, 15 Aug 95 09:22:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25807; Tue, 15 Aug 95 09:19:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25801; Tue, 15 Aug 95 09:19:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siOcZ-0003B3C; Tue, 15 Aug 95 09:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Securing PINE Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 11:48:19 -0400 Message-Id: References: <40plie$pjq@janus.cqu.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <40plie$pjq@janus.cqu.edu.au> On 15 Aug 1995, Bradley Bristow-Stagg wrote (excerpted): | I was wondering if someone could either point me in the | direction of where in the source code that I have to change so that users | can't read in any other file other than the .sig specified in the .pinerc, | and also if there are any other things I have to take into consideration. Although I do not have the source code at hand, it seems to me that you would have to disable completely the Ctrl-R function which allows a user to read in any external file into the body of a composed message. This is a very useful function. Why are you advocating disallowing it? Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 15 09:24:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24377; Tue, 15 Aug 95 09:24:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25625; Tue, 15 Aug 95 09:19:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25619; Tue, 15 Aug 95 09:19:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siOca-0003B6C; Tue, 15 Aug 95 09:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Keith Shomper Subject: Pine for SGI's (Irix 5.3) Date: 15 Aug 1995 15:49:41 GMT Message-Id: <40qfml$22g@blackbird.afit.af.mil> In the pine FAQ, I see the following: Pine has been compiled on other UNIX platforms (4.3 Berkeley UNIX, DEC OSF/1 V1.2A, Dynix/PTX V1.4.0, VAX Ultrix 4.1, A/UX 3.0, BSD/386 Gamma 4.1, Convex, Dynix 3.0 and 3.1 on Sequent Symmetry, Interactive Systems Corporation UNIX, Silicon Graphics IRIS with IRIX 4.0.1, SCO Unix, System V release 4) as well. Anything new with Silicon Graphics on IRIX 5.3? Send me an email if you have a good pointer. Thanks. Keith A. Shomper Asst Prof of Comp Sci Air Force Institute of Technology From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 15 11:27:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29411; Tue, 15 Aug 95 11:27:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28220; Tue, 15 Aug 95 11:19:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28214; Tue, 15 Aug 95 11:19:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siQZ5-0003B9C; Tue, 15 Aug 95 11:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vecsey@course2.harvard.edu (Lester Vecsey) Subject: PINE and Multiple Accounts Date: 15 Aug 1995 16:27:03 GMT Message-Id: <40qhsn$3jb@decaxp.harvard.edu> As a system administrator I find myself logging into various accounts (news, feedback, webmaster, etc..) using 'su', or launching a new telnet window. Is there anyway to load ONE copy of Pine and switch between the different mailbox's from within it? -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 15 13:02:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03059; Tue, 15 Aug 95 13:02:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00154; Tue, 15 Aug 95 12:54:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00147; Tue, 15 Aug 95 12:54:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siRze-0003BDC; Tue, 15 Aug 95 12:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bonnie Subject: Curser Movement Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 13:28:07 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Can anyone tell me how to place my curser at the end of a document easily. I have a rather large document that I have to add on to the end of each week. It takes forever to get there by using Control V. Thanks. Bonnie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bonnie Crandall author of PANIC BUSTER, Learn to Conquer Panic Attacks and Agoraphobia. A self-help manual/workbook. Apply your faith to the problem of fear. For information email bcrand@epix.net. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 15 15:58:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11184; Tue, 15 Aug 95 15:58:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05230; Tue, 15 Aug 95 15:53:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05224; Tue, 15 Aug 95 15:53:16 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18539; Tue, 15 Aug 95 15:53:07 -0700 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:53:02 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Stanley Tomshinsky Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: INBOX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, Stanley Tomshinsky wrote: > Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:08:25 +0000 > From: Stanley Tomshinsky > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: INBOX > > Maybe I should ask my netserver galactica.it, but they are on vacation. > And they give Eudora to all...and I am running Amiga.......Well I left > inbox-path "inbox" so as not to connect right away...since when I try > {192.106.152.1}inbox I get a 192.106.152.1,143 doesn't accept the con- > nection...Now I get my mail QWKed to me and that is okay for now. > Pine is trying to open an IMAP connection to your server, 192.106.152.1, aka galactica.galactica.it, and it is apparently not running IMAP. > Galactica.it is a PC bbs and they use ms dos & windows software to > give you an idea...What is the usual mail procedure SMTP which I > have installed with my NNTP?...is the 143 indicating that...I also > have Pop3 installed. Is my "{192.106.152.1}inbox" OK. Also Galactica > connects use to SLIP via TIA...and I found out that to have NNTP > work on pine, I had to keep my localhost name "localhost". > I'm not sure if the Amiga port includes the experimental POP driver. If it does, try "{192.106.152.1/pop3}inbox". > And that is why I put user-domain with my email address so it would > be somewhere in the header. > > If anyone could help me I would greatly appreciate it...Have a good > summer to all............Stan > > user-domain : stom@galactica.it ^^^^^ This is incorrect. The user-domain should be set to _only_ the part after the '@', e.g. "galactica.it". |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 15 16:40:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14003; Tue, 15 Aug 95 16:40:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04706; Tue, 15 Aug 95 16:35:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04700; Tue, 15 Aug 95 16:35:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siVRh-0003BOC; Tue, 15 Aug 95 16:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mar94@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (mary ann rapp) Subject: Re: Receipt of message arrival with TCPIP??? Date: 15 Aug 1995 23:11:11 GMT Message-Id: <40r9if$7se@cronkite.seas.gwu.edu> References: Mark Smtih (smithm28@atlas.co.uk) wrote: : Hi there, : I am sorry, but I'm probably the 1 millionth guy to ask this: : (I'm sorry but I couldn't find any FAQ) : Is there a possibilty, just as with the X.400 message handling, to be : acknowledged that the person you have sent an email to, has received or : has read it. : Cheers, : Mark I've wondered the same thing too! I have been relying on the N before the number of the message, but when you print yourself a hard copy (control Y) the N disappears. Where can I find out what time the person read it? Mary Ann Rapp From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 15 17:23:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15814; Tue, 15 Aug 95 17:23:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07607; Tue, 15 Aug 95 17:20:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07601; Tue, 15 Aug 95 17:20:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siWBh-0003BTC; Tue, 15 Aug 95 17:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mental@indirect.com (Kevin C. Dorff) Subject: Re: PINE 3.92 - [PGP] - When!? Message-Id: References: <40eaon$8pa@decaxp.harvard.edu> <40m86i$5q1k@rose.muohio.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 22:01:13 GMT How about you press a key and it asks for passphrase and THEN signs the letter. How about you read the message, notice it is encrypted and you ask it to decrypt the message and it asks for passphrase and THEN decrypts the letter. BUT, all of these should be options INSIDE the mailer. Kevin pickerin@phoenix.sas.muohio.edu (Robert A. Pickering Jr.) wrote: >Well, I mentioned this before, but I hope the integration isn't too >seamless. >The problem with seamless integration is that it causes one to loose >all the benefits of having a pass phrase in the first place. >Digital signatures are only meaningful if you can guarantee that >the person sending the message is the person who signed it. If I have >a program that automatically signs my mail, then if I leave my terminal >unattended or if someone guesses my password to my account (something that >is limited to 8 characters on my Unix account) then I'm hosed. All they >have to do is send mail, and poof, my signature appears. >That's not the functionality I'm looking for. And if it automatically >decrypts items that are encrypted with my public key. That's even worse. >Just my $0.02 worth. I'll now get off my soapbox. You may return >to your regularily scheduled program. >: So when will PINE 3.92 be released and how seamless will the PGP be >: integrated into it? >: -- >-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 15 18:12:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17263; Tue, 15 Aug 95 18:12:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08444; Tue, 15 Aug 95 18:11:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gravity.fly.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08438; Tue, 15 Aug 95 18:11:11 -0700 Received: (from walls@localhost) by gravity.fly.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA26631; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 21:11:06 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 21:11:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Chana Shvonne Williford To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII could yo PLEASE tell me how to get a file into the pine database so that i can send it to another member? i only have an email account on fly.net... ~Chana Shvonne Williford From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 16 01:54:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26901; Wed, 16 Aug 95 01:54:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11691; Wed, 16 Aug 95 01:45:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11679; Wed, 16 Aug 95 01:45:35 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:44:02 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA01112; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:44:48 +0100 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:44:48 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Bonnie Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Curser Movement In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The ^W command (WhereIs) lets you search for given text. It also can be followed by ^Y (to take you to the last line) or ^Y (to take you to the first line). Summary: Last line: ^W ^V First line: ^W ^Y Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 15 Aug 1995, Bonnie wrote: > Hi, > > > Can anyone tell me how to place my curser at the end of a document easily. > > I have a rather large document that I have to add on to the end of each > week. It takes forever to get there by using Control V. > > Thanks. > > Bonnie > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Bonnie Crandall author of PANIC BUSTER, Learn to Conquer Panic > Attacks and Agoraphobia. A self-help manual/workbook. Apply your faith to > the problem of fear. For information email bcrand@epix.net. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 16 02:46:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27854; Wed, 16 Aug 95 02:46:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12102; Wed, 16 Aug 95 02:31:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12090; Wed, 16 Aug 95 02:31:23 -0700 Received: from work6c.rhrz.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 16 Aug 95 11:31:27 MEZ Received: by work6c.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA15125; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 11:26:00 +0200 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 11:26:00 +0200 (MES) From: Wolf Kammer To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PICO 2.5 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To whom it may concern: I am testing PICO 2.5. I agree completely that it is an easy to use editor for UNIX (as is PINE for news and mail). But I have the following problems: 1) The keybord blocks when I try to enter German umlauts into text. But if I load a text which contains already umlauts I can search and find them with ^w and delete them with ^d (so the keyboard does not block the input field for ^w when entering a German umlaut). What can be done for entering German umlauts into the text ? For recommendation of the product to our users this is a decisive point. 2) I hav no success with operations of selected text, that is to mark selected text at all. Is it Ctrl-caret or double caret ? Thank you for answering these questions, Wolf Kammer From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 16 06:27:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03298; Wed, 16 Aug 95 06:27:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14672; Wed, 16 Aug 95 06:22:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14666; Wed, 16 Aug 95 06:22:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siiJc-0003CRC; Wed, 16 Aug 95 06:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andy Behrens Subject: Re: IMAP & sun-mailtool Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:23:58 -0400 Message-Id: References: <40l792$9k6@helka.iif.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <40l792$9k6@helka.iif.hu> On 13 Aug 1995 ivan.szanto@dataware.hu wrote: > I use both IMAP & sun-mailtool. Sometimes when I receive a message > sent with mailtool and I read it with IMAP, it will be separated in > 2 or more parts. . . . . . > Is this a known compatibility problem? Is there a fix for it? > I tried Keith Moore's sun-to-mime program to resolve this problem, > but it didn't work. The problem is that Sun has chosen a slightly non-standard format for their mailboxes. Instead of just marking the beginning of a new message with a line beginning with "From ", they use the "From " line together with the character-count contained in the Content-Length: line. Because Sun uses this format, they allow mail messages that contain "From " as the first 5 characters on a line. Sun-supplied mail readers (like Mailtool) know that these lines are part of the message, but other programs (like Pine) do not. Fortunately, the solution is simple. If, as I suspect, you're on a Solaris system, just edit the /etc/mail/sendmail.cf file and change the line Mlocal, P=/bin/mail, F=flsSDFMmnP, S=10, R=20, A=mail -d $u to Mlocal, P=/bin/mail, F=EflsSDFMmnP, S=10, R=20, A=mail -d $u The F=E flag tells sendmail to replace "From" with ">From" when delivering mail to a user on your machine. Andy -- Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. (Anne Herbert) Andy Behrens Burlington Coat Factory, Schoolhouse Lane, Etna, N.H. 03750 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 16 06:44:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03763; Wed, 16 Aug 95 06:44:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18666; Wed, 16 Aug 95 06:37:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18654; Wed, 16 Aug 95 06:37:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siiYp-0003CMC; Wed, 16 Aug 95 06:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@e4315555.slip.cc.uq.edu.au (System Adminstrator) Subject: Re: Can I disable .pine-debug files? Date: 16 Aug 1995 13:01:54 GMT Message-Id: <40sq82$nc5@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au> References: <40dnnv$lh1@mindy.cs.utexas.edu> In article <40dnnv$lh1@mindy.cs.utexas.edu>, ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) writes: >[ larry@austin.ibm.com wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] > >-> I'd like to disable the .pine-debug? file generation. Is there any >-> way to do that vi pine or the .pinerc? Thanks ... > > Start up PINE with "pine -d0". Or you can recompile... there's an option for default debug levels somewhere... in the /pine source directory in on of the two files Makefile.xxx OR os-xxx.c where xxx represents your build architecture. Have fun. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 16 07:02:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04344; Wed, 16 Aug 95 07:02:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15098; Wed, 16 Aug 95 06:57:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15092; Wed, 16 Aug 95 06:57:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siisc-0003CRC; Wed, 16 Aug 95 06:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@e4315555.slip.cc.uq.edu.au (System Adminstrator) Subject: Pine and NetBSD ??? Date: 16 Aug 1995 13:14:52 GMT Message-Id: <40sr0c$nc5@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au> I've been trying for some time to get Pine built on my NetBSD system. My first problem was that I was trying to "build bsd" because it seemed the closest thing to my system. Now I now that there's a NetBSD port, accessable by "build neb", but it's undocumented :( It takes about an hour to build everything on my system, and boy was I kicking myself after I'd tried the bsd makefiles about 5 times. Anyway, "build neb" seems to work. However, when I run Pine, it starts up normally, and all is well... until it tries to get configuration settings from either pine.conf or .pinerc. It simply cannot read data. I've traced the whole procedure with ktrace/kdump, and it seems that Pine is finding the files, setting a lock on them, opening them and reading 0 bytes :( WHY??? Can anyone suggest anything? TIA. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 16 07:37:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05886; Wed, 16 Aug 95 07:37:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15699; Wed, 16 Aug 95 07:31:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cosmail1.ctd.ornl.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15693; Wed, 16 Aug 95 07:31:51 -0700 Received: from [128.219.128.57] (baloo.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.128.57]) by cosmail1.ctd.ornl.gov (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id KAA19296; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:31:14 -0400 X-Sender: jnm@cosmail1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:31:16 -0400 To: mental@indirect.com (Kevin C. Dorff), pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jamey Maze Subject: Re: PINE 3.92 - [PGP] - When!? At 6:01 PM 8/15/95, Kevin C. Dorff wrote: >How about you press a key and it asks for passphrase and THEN signs >the letter. > >How about you read the message, notice it is encrypted and you ask it >to decrypt the message and it asks for passphrase and THEN decrypts >the letter. > >BUT, all of these should be options INSIDE the mailer. Personally, I'd prefer to only have to enter my passphrase once during a session. If I quit and restart Pine, then I'd enter it again. On multiuser systems at my site, we have a daemon that automatically logs you out if you've been inactive for more than 15 minutes. For folks with workstations or PCs, we strongly recommend users run a password-protected screen saver so that if someone tries to break into their machine, hopefully they'll have to reboot to defeat the screen saver and then any in-memory passphrase would be lost. Maybe there could be an option for Pine to not save the passphrase for those who are not comfortable with that sort of operation. -- Jamey Maze Lockheed Martin Energy Systems Oak Ridge National Laboratory From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 16 08:57:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09214; Wed, 16 Aug 95 08:57:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21670; Wed, 16 Aug 95 08:50:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21664; Wed, 16 Aug 95 08:50:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sikd0-0003CWC; Wed, 16 Aug 95 08:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ghelmer@ivory.dsu.edu (Guy Helmer) Subject: Pine 3.91 occasional freezes on startup on OSF/1 and FreeBSD Date: 16 Aug 1995 10:13:04 -0500 Message-Id: <40t1u0$kr@ivory.dsu.edu> Has anyone found a solution for Pine 3.91's occasional freezes upon startup on DEC Alpha OSF/1 (aka Digital UNIX) and FreeBSD? When this problem occurs, pine is stuck in some sort of loop, using as much CPU time as it can get, and it has apparently changed the terminal settings so ^C won't kill it. Nothing short of a "kill -9 " from another login session can kill pine when it's stuck this way. If there are any known patches, I'd sure appreciate it if anyone could share a URL to them. Thanks, Guy Helmer -- Guy Helmer, Dakota State University Computing Services - ghelmer@alpha.dsu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 16 12:22:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18323; Wed, 16 Aug 95 12:22:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22199; Wed, 16 Aug 95 12:19:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22193; Wed, 16 Aug 95 12:19:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sinv0-0003CeC; Wed, 16 Aug 95 12:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kadow@komondor.cig.mot.com (Kevin Kadow) Subject: Re: Securing PINE Date: 16 Aug 1995 18:40:26 GMT Message-Id: <40te2q$bnr@newdelph.cig.mot.com> References: <40plie$pjq@janus.cqu.edu.au> In article , Paul O Bartlett wrote: >On 15 Aug 1995, Bradley Bristow-Stagg wrote (excerpted): >| I was wondering if someone could either point me in the >| direction of where in the source code that I have to change so that users >| can't read in any other file other than the .sig specified in the .pinerc, >| and also if there are any other things I have to take into consideration. My personal preference is to have a single version of the binary that behaves different depending on whether it's invoked as 'pine' or 'rpine', I've modified Elm to support this behavior. Some things to be taken into account: * Subshells * Preferences settings for editor,spellcheck, paginator, etc. * Any function that uses system(),popen(), or execv(). * Load/Include from file (only allow from files user owns) * Save to file (a thorny issue) > Although I do not have the source code at hand, it seems to me that >you would have to disable completely the Ctrl-R function which allows a >user to read in any external file into the body of a composed message. >This is a very useful function. Why are you advocating disallowing it? The same reasoning as applies to my crippled ELM (relm). It's better to offer user's with restricted access a crippled version of a good mail user agent than to take one of the only two other options: 1. Don't give them any mail access at all 2. Write an agent from scratch than only includes certain functions. I've designed several systems intended as a BBS, where the majority of users MUST not be able to load external files, open subshells, or pipe messages to commands. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 16 12:56:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19502; Wed, 16 Aug 95 12:56:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27469; Wed, 16 Aug 95 12:53:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27463; Wed, 16 Aug 95 12:53:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sioVF-0003CiC; Wed, 16 Aug 95 12:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: redwood@halcyon.com (Aaron Delwiche) Subject: Stripping Headers from Multiple Messages Date: 16 Aug 1995 18:57:03 GMT Message-Id: <40tf1v$qo4@news1.halcyon.com> Using Pine, is it possible to remove the lengthy headers that are attached to e-mail messages? I subscribe to a busy listserv, and would like to export all of my messages to a single text file -- *minus* most of the headers. (It would be nice to keep the date/subject/author lines). I'm working on a Word macro that will remove the obnoxious headers, but have a feeling that I may be re-inventing the wheel. Is there an easier way to do this? Thanks, Aaron Delwiche From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 16 13:00:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19734; Wed, 16 Aug 95 13:00:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27650; Wed, 16 Aug 95 12:58:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dmog10.bell.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27624; Wed, 16 Aug 95 12:58:39 -0700 Received: from dmoc61.on.bell.ca by dmog10.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA16536; Wed, 16 Aug 95 15:58:04 -0400 Received: from huhc06.ON.Bell.Ca by dmoc61.on.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA13374; Wed, 16 Aug 95 15:58:02 -0400 Received: by huhc06 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04298; Wed, 16 Aug 95 15:58:01 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 15:58:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Violette" Reply-To: jviolett@on.bell.ca To: Pine Info Subject: Pine doesn't tag .mpg file as Video. Message-Id: Organization: Bell Canada Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When I send an mpeg for example Mars.mpg from Pine to myself, it encodes it as type File, but when I send it from another mailer, it arrives as type video. I can just view it by pressing return, but with the one Pine send I have to save it first and then view it. Is there any way to configure Pine to recognize mpegs when it encodes MIME mail? I can successfully encode .au .jpg .ps files from Pine, and would like to be able to send mpegs as video. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. -- | John R. Violette | Software Development | | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 16 13:02:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19790; Wed, 16 Aug 95 13:02:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27643; Wed, 16 Aug 95 12:58:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27637; Wed, 16 Aug 95 12:58:42 -0700 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id NAA25547 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:58:38 -0600 Received: from gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (maldridg@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.125.12]) by gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA92978 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:58:38 -0600 Received: by gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9) id NAA162156; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:58:37 -0600 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:58:37 -0600 (MDT) From: Lea Andrellan X-Sender: maldridg@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: PICO 2.5 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 16 Aug 1995, Wolf Kammer wrote: > 1) The keybord blocks when I try to enter German umlauts into text. But if > I load a text which contains already umlauts I can search and find them > with ^w and delete them with ^d (so the keyboard does not block the > input field for ^w when entering a German umlaut). What can be done for > entering German umlauts into the text ? For recommendation of the product > to our users this is a decisive point. See if the following is of any help to you: To see a list of all available language sets on gpu, type locale -a at the gpu sustem prompt. Should be one in there for the German character set. Modify .pinerc to include the proper ISO-nnnn-n string in the character-set option. Then put the following in the bottom of your .cshrc file: setenv LANG xx_xx ie setend LANG Fr_CA Then logout and log back in. Then either find an article in the desired language to display, or create a piece of mail to yourself and try to look at it. > 2) I hav no success with operations of selected text, that is to mark > selected text at all. Is it Ctrl-caret or double caret ? CTRL-CARET ie CTRL-SHIFT-6 Lea ---------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; CWIS WWW/gopher admin; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) . (D)inner not ready: (A)bort (R)etry (P)izza ---------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 16 13:29:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21116; Wed, 16 Aug 95 13:29:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23557; Wed, 16 Aug 95 13:23:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23551; Wed, 16 Aug 95 13:23:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sioum-0003CmC; Wed, 16 Aug 95 13:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cfday@ibm.net Subject: sco xenix Date: 16 Aug 1995 19:25:48 GMT Message-Id: <40tgns$27ap@news-s02.ny.us.ibm.net> Does anyone in this newsgroup know where I can get Pine/Pico compiled for SCO Xenix 2.3.3 or earlier. Would appreciate a post or e-mail. Thanks Charlie Day From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 16 20:49:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04527; Wed, 16 Aug 95 20:49:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01529; Wed, 16 Aug 95 20:45:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01521; Wed, 16 Aug 95 20:45:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sivqQ-0003DDC; Wed, 16 Aug 95 20:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: P.Irvine@syd.dwt.csiro.au Subject: Sorting mail in incoming folders Message-Id: Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 23:34:23 GMT I use Pine with multiple incoming folders with mail from mailing lists put into their own folder using a filter. What I would like to do is to have the mail in the alternative folders sorted differently from the mail in INBOX. eg. I would like to have mailing lists sorted with the "O" sort which sorts by subject and date so it is like a threaded News listing. I can only find provision to apply one sort criteria which applies to all incoming mail. Phil Irvine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 16 20:58:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04756; Wed, 16 Aug 95 20:58:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07057; Wed, 16 Aug 95 20:55:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07051; Wed, 16 Aug 95 20:55:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sivun-0003DDC; Wed, 16 Aug 95 20:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stanley Tomshinsky Subject: Re: Can I disable .pine-debug files? Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 02:46:21 +0000 Message-Id: References: <40dnnv$lh1@mindy.cs.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <40dnnv$lh1@mindy.cs.utexas.edu> On 10 Aug 1995, Ananda M. Kar wrote: > [ larry@austin.ibm.com wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] > > -> I'd like to disable the .pine-debug? file generation. Is there any > -> way to do that vi pine or the .pinerc? Thanks ... > > Start up PINE with "pine -d0". > > Ananda > > -- > Ananda M. Kar |(H)458-9754 | URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/ananda/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated > Thank you for this helpful advice..............Stan :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: :: :: stom@galactica.it :: :: :: :: Stanley Tomshinsky via Fiori Chiari 20 Milano 20121 Italia :: :: :: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 16 21:34:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05452; Wed, 16 Aug 95 21:34:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02044; Wed, 16 Aug 95 21:30:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02037; Wed, 16 Aug 95 21:30:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siwVI-0003DDC; Wed, 16 Aug 95 21:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cdh@worf.MR.Net (Chris D. Halverson) Subject: Re: PINE 3.92 - [PGP] - When!? Date: 16 Aug 1995 10:48:19 -0500 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: jnm@ornl.gov's message of 16 Aug 1995 07:38:21 -0700 >>>>> "Jamey" == Jamey Maze writes: In article jnm@ornl.gov (Jamey Maze) writes: Jamey> Personally, I'd prefer to only have to enter my passphrase Jamey> once during a session. If I quit and restart Pine, then I'd Jamey> enter it again. The problem then is, where does Pine keep the pass phrase? If it's in memory or a tmp file, then it's available to anybody on the system. This is not a good thing. I have my own workstation here, I use Pine via IMAP to read my mail. None of the other engineers here have to ever get on my machine (they all have their own), but I still wouldn't feel comfortable having my pass phrase sticking around all day (I leave my Pine session up from about 8am-5pm). Jamey> Maybe there could be an option for Pine to not save the Jamey> passphrase for those who are not comfortable with that sort of Jamey> operation. If so, it should default to not keeping it and then have some sort of timeout (say 30mins) that it will drop the phrase. By keeping the phrase around, it defeats the purpose of having one in the first place, at least on a multi-user system as people don't have to log in to your console to get to the machine. Environment variables are no better protected. I want PGP/Pine to be easy to use, but I don't want to give up the functionality of PGP by having Pine be too "smart", ie. keeping pass phrases, auto-signing/decrypting messages, etc. It should always prompt for a pass phrase. -- Chris D. Halverson | Network Engineer Minnesota Regional Network | Voice: (612) 342-2838 511 11th Avenue South, Box 212 | Email: cdh@MR.Net Minneapolis, MN 55415 | WWW: http://www.MR.Net/~cdh/ PGP signed/encrypted mail accepted, finger for PGP public key From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 17 03:51:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12603; Thu, 17 Aug 95 03:51:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05902; Thu, 17 Aug 95 03:46:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05896; Thu, 17 Aug 95 03:46:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sj2P1-0003DjC; Thu, 17 Aug 95 03:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andreas@wup.de (Andreas Klemm) Subject: Re: INN 1.4 and pine 3.91 Date: 17 Aug 1995 09:52:51 GMT Message-Id: <40v3hj$mdc@wup-gate.wup.de> References: Wakko Warner-System Administrator-AKA Ron Chesko (wakko@starbase1.htls.lib.il.us) wrote: : Hello All! : I'm having a problem getting INN and Pine to work together. I think that : I have everything set right but whenever I try to read my newsgroups thru : pine I get either not articles exist (which I know they do thru using : trn) or articles that say "no text..." (which I also know to be wrong : thru trn). Any help would be greatly appreciated. : System specs : Sparc Solaris 2.4 w/recommended patches : INN 1.4 with patches : Pine 3.91 : nntp-server=news.htls.lib.il.us <----this is my newsserver : news-collections= <-----have tried multiple configs : including: : News *[*] : News *{news.htls.lib.il.us/nntp}[*] : and the default setting which is : similar to above. No problem here ... you are configuring something wrong ... RTFM. -- andreas@wup.de /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ - Support Unix - From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 17 03:52:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12636; Thu, 17 Aug 95 03:52:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12259; Thu, 17 Aug 95 03:46:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12253; Thu, 17 Aug 95 03:46:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sj2P0-0003DiC; Thu, 17 Aug 95 03:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andreas@wup.de (Andreas Klemm) Subject: Re: Pine vs Elm Date: 17 Aug 1995 09:50:55 GMT Message-Id: <40v3dv$mdc@wup-gate.wup.de> References: <40jjib$k6s@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <40l1v5$dr3@nyheter.chalmers.se> Elizabeth Malekzadeh (umunk.GUN.de!kitten) wrote: : I have to choose between elm and pine : for a large (180) freshman class next year. : What are the merits and demerits of these rivals ? : Neither seems to come with very good documentation. Seems to me that you never got the whole sources ... Speaking for elm I can say, that it comes with a nice and complete documentation... All you need is nroff/groff to format the manuals... Using elm and pine is mainly a matter of taste and functionality. I personally prefer elm with PGP patches applied, because I like the feature of mail encryption. Additionaly I dislike pine's automatically conversion of special characters into quoted printable (or whatever name that encoding has). Many other mail recipients don't have a mailer handy, that can decode quoted printable. You can't turn off this feature 'til pine 3.91. I's suggest starting with elm, it has a fine documentation and is really smart and easy to use. Start with a low user level, so your course isn't stressed by too many options in the option menue ... Andreas /// -- andreas@wup.de /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ - Support Unix - From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 17 07:58:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17896; Thu, 17 Aug 95 07:58:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08805; Thu, 17 Aug 95 07:51:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from AZTEC.LIB.UTK.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08799; Thu, 17 Aug 95 07:51:28 -0700 Received: by aztec.lib.utk.edu (5.x/2.8s-UTK) id AA19699; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:50:26 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:50:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Patrick To: pine-info Subject: included messages Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When I want to respond to a message, and press R, it asks: Include original message in Reply? When I say yes to that, the inclusion looks like: On Thu, 17 Aug 1995, so-and-so wrote: > But I have seen other messages with different inclusion messages than "On Date, so-and-so wrote:". I know that I can just ^K over this and write something else, but I wonder if there's a way to change the format of this message, so that it automatically says something different.... ~~~ bobpatrick@utk.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 17 07:58:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17922; Thu, 17 Aug 95 07:58:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08794; Thu, 17 Aug 95 07:51:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from news.pacifier.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08787; Thu, 17 Aug 95 07:51:22 -0700 Received: from bart by news.pacifier.com with uucp for cac.washington.edu!pine-info (Linux Smail3.1.29.1 #30) id m0sj6I4-0009BeC; Thu, 17 Aug 95 07:51 PDT From: Dave Hansen X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Desperately need help Date: Thu, 17 Aug 95 7:50:56 PDT Message-Id: <9508170750.aa25159@bart.wfsg.com> Hi. New to this list but seeking help. We have been using pine on our SCO UNIX machine for about 6 months. All of the sudden, messages created in pine don't go anywhere. They look like normal, even get copied into "sent-mail" but they never really go anywhere. MMDF is our mail system (sorry) and with loggin turned on high, there's not a trace of activity in MMDF. The native mail program works fine and pine can receive mail without problem. Our version of pine is 3.91 and was received pre-compiled so I didn't have the source. I've seen this mail list mention a debug switch, -d, but this has NO effect on my pine. I think it was compiled without this switch(I really don't know.) Can someone please help me? I'm looking for some way to effectively trace down where the failure is. I'm sure it's probably just a permission setting on a directory that has been set wrong. We did install two operating system patches from SCO very near to the beginning of our problem. We're not able to remove the patches for testing and this is a production machine so we have a lot of unhappy mail senders. I did download the sources with the intention of building and looking for debugging information, but the sources won't build. Too many fatal errors in the build ("./build sco") Please help! -Dave Hansen dave@wfsg.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 17 08:21:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19025; Thu, 17 Aug 95 08:21:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09327; Thu, 17 Aug 95 08:16:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09319; Thu, 17 Aug 95 08:16:33 -0700 Received: from zodiac.unl.ac.uk by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08441; Thu, 17 Aug 95 08:16:31 -0700 Received: by zodiac.unl.ac.uk (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA03126; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:13:12 +0100 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:13:10 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford Wesley Fulford 91705162 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: IMAP connection time Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII An IMAP server has recently been setup on the Universities central VAX VMS system. I have changed the pine configuration on our unix boxes to do additional mail collections from LABEL {host}inbox It works fine except the connection time is unacceptably long (32seconds - 7 minutes). Telnet connections by comparison take under 1 second so I don't think I can blame the network. We dont use IMAP on the UNIX subnet so I've nothing to compare this too. Does anyone know what the problem is and how to cure it. Clifford W Fulford UNIX development University of North London e-mail Clifford@zodiac.unl.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 17 08:58:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20660; Thu, 17 Aug 95 08:58:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17095; Thu, 17 Aug 95 08:52:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17089; Thu, 17 Aug 95 08:52:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sj7Al-0003DwC; Thu, 17 Aug 95 08:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dickens@jeff.ibg.ljo.dec.com (Jeff Dickens) Subject: eudora and pine folder interoperability Date: 17 Aug 1995 15:05:54 GMT Message-Id: <40vlsi$2ev@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> Hi. Eudora says that they are "compatible with UNIX mail and .mailrc files". But I find that in a Eudora .mbx file, messages are separated by "", where in Unix (PINE) files messages are separated by "". Consequently, PINE can't read mail files created by Eudora. I found that if I just strip out the extra s it works fine. Is there any way to change PINE's idea of what the inter-message seperator should be ? Any other way to get PINE and Eudora to look at the same set of folders ? Thanks in advance, -Jeff From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 17 09:36:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22595; Thu, 17 Aug 95 09:36:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11100; Thu, 17 Aug 95 09:32:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11094; Thu, 17 Aug 95 09:32:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sj7l9-0003DwC; Thu, 17 Aug 95 09:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Wealth of Info on PINE Available Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:11:19 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A wealth of information on Pine is available to users with a browser for the World Wide Web. I am listing four URLs (Uniform Resource Locators) below. The first one is especially valuable, as it comes from the Pine Information Center at the University of Washington, the developers and maintainers of Pine. The second gets you to (among other things) information on how to filter (redistribute) incoming mail on Unix (R) systems. Answers to many questions of the "how do I do this" sort may be found in these Web pages. However, because I did not write any of them, I cannot vouch for the accuracy, completeness, consistency, or timeliness of any of the information in them. URL: http://www.cac.washington.edu:1180/pine/ URL: http://www.best.com/~ii/internet/mail+news.html URL: http://www.udel.edu/eileen/subject/communication/pine/pine-index.html URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/creations Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 17 09:37:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22661; Thu, 17 Aug 95 09:37:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18122; Thu, 17 Aug 95 09:32:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18116; Thu, 17 Aug 95 09:32:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sj7lA-0003DyC; Thu, 17 Aug 95 09:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Re: PINE 3.92 - [PGP] - When!? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:34:51 -0600 References: <40eaon$8pa@decaxp.harvard.edu> <40m86i$5q1k@rose.muohio.edu> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 14 Aug 1995, Chris D. Halverson wrote: | | >>>>> "Robert" == Robert A Pickering writes: | In article <40m86i$5q1k@rose.muohio.edu> pickerin@phoenix.sas.muohio.edu (Robert A. Pickering Jr.) writes: | | | Robert> Well, I mentioned this before, but I hope the integration | Robert> isn't too seamless. | | I have to agree here. I do want some sort of integration, but it _has_ | to ask me my pass phrase to sign/decrypt/etc. messages. Like Robert | said, if it does it all automatically, why bother using it? | All Pine really needs is a pipe command (from the editor) and user programmable "hot keys." Originally dedicated to nothing in particular (hint, hint), the hot keys could be programmed to pipe the messages to PGP with the proper options (by the end user). | The key point here is integration, I don't want to have to rely on | using alternative-editors to use PGP. I want it to be a keystroke | (much like the ME versions of elm), but I do not want it taking any | actions automatically. | I dunno, when mkpgp is properly configured, it's not much more hassle than ordinary Pine. @:o) | Just my thoughts on this... | | Chris | -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp1.1.4, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMDMNJuBu0383Om6dAQH6SgQAkOf/Tzs2cx9OIKE++DLoSMle0b7gzi7M gWY9y75RyC4y155hvBm9CGJpV+I2zG3TjaxoUgyTMxmB7VTNqmQMCKEUTXWoA9Fi 0qi3iRJo6tHKXltK03/SAsLaxgr+KZhD5nCnUst5gg8pwAnCzThxf3w9TmUIk1SB +gKO03qmt20= =I6Yr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka 49860926614586AF "The strongest reason for the people to retain their 54105BA338FBF0FB right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 17 11:20:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27268; Thu, 17 Aug 95 11:20:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21024; Thu, 17 Aug 95 11:15:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21018; Thu, 17 Aug 95 11:15:42 -0700 Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-5 #2001) id <01HU6ES5W2WW8ZFZ3T@INNOSOFT.COM>; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:15:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Portia Shao Subject: Re: IMAP connection time In-Reply-To: To: Clifford Wesley Fulford 91705162 Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT On Thu, 17 Aug 1995, Clifford Wesley Fulford 91705162 wrote: > An IMAP server has recently been setup on the Universities central > VAX VMS system. I have changed the pine configuration on our unix whose IMAP server is being used on the VMS system? can you find out if it is PMDF? if it not, then what I say here may not apply. (you can try telnet to port 143 of the server and see if the banner contain the word PMDF) there are several reasons why the connection may take a while to establish, the CPU power of the system, is it a slow system? is it an Alpha or a VAX 780? makes a big difference. How many users are usually on the system can also have some effect. if CPU is not the problem, how many messages you have in the folder to be opened, do you have hundreds or thousands or just a few dozen? it would take a longer time to open a larger folder (or folder with big messages). how much memory is on the system, is the system short on memory? messages are read into memory by the imap server. disk speed, is your mail file residing on a fast disk or a slow disk or is the disk fragmented? is the server configured to have a small or large working set? > boxes to do additional mail collections from > LABEL {host}inbox > It works fine except the connection time is unacceptably long (32seconds > - 7 minutes). Telnet connections by comparison take under 1 second > so I don't think I can blame the network. 7 minutes seem like a very unresonable time unless you have some really huge folders. It took me 21 seconds to open a folder with 1382 messages, some of them very large, on a moderately busy VAXstation 4000/90. > > We dont use IMAP on the UNIX subnet so I've nothing to compare this too. > > Does anyone know what the problem is and how to cure it. > Clifford W Fulford > UNIX development > University of North London > e-mail Clifford@zodiac.unl.ac.uk > > +-----POP3's "Leave mail on server" is for the birds ----------------+ | | | /portia portia@innosoft.com | | Innosoft International Inc. (818)919-3600 voice, (818)919-3614 fax| | 1050 East Garvey Ave South, West Covina, CA 91790 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 05:48:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29443; Fri, 18 Aug 95 05:48:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29508; Fri, 18 Aug 95 05:38:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [204.248.155.1] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29502; Fri, 18 Aug 95 05:38:27 -0700 Received: by linknet.net; (5.65/1.1.8.2/20Apr95-1203PM) id AA04635; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 07:39:58 -0500 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 07:39:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Newsom Shows To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug (ID 1L4BW): (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1334272091-808667609=:31644" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1334272091-808667609=:31644 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: I forgot to mention in the original letter that I use amiga dos v.3.1 also I have used snoop-dos to try to trap this error or its origin and have had no luck with this either. Please help if you can!! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:53:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Newsom Shows To: Pine Developers Subject: Bug (ID 1L4BW): Sir; I am writing to request help or ideas of what I can do to use Pine on my system. I am composing this note on the Pine of my Local Server System (Linknet.net). I have an Amiga 3000 and a US Robotics 28.8 modem. Pine worked fine on my system for about two weeks then suddenly I began to get an error message when I try to use Pine from my system [1] Obsolete ixemul.library syscall number used. [2]Relink program with current ixemul crt0.o and libc.a. then the shell that PINE is in freezes, not the computer mind you, just the shell. It happens when it starts up and asks me to login and for my password. Right after I enter my password and hit return it freezes. This problem started after I upgraded my EmPlant emmulator board software. I do not know that they are related but am just trying to tell you what the last installation was. Pine version = 3.91 ixemul.library version = 41.1 Please suggest something I can do to fix this, I deleted Pine and ixemul.library and restored them from tape, this did not work either. My E-mail address is bulldog@linknet.net in case you happen to have an idea for me to try. Thank You very much!!! --0-1334272091-808667609=:31644 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = bulldog, full = Newsom Shows home = /usr/users/bulldog home_dir= /usr/users/bulldog hostname= linknet.net localdom= net userdom= NULL maildom= linknet.net cur_cntxt= mail/[] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= /usr/spool/mail/bulldog msgmap: tot=3, cur=3, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival inbox is mail_stream term type=vt100, ttyname=/dev/ttyp2, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Newsom Shows user-id : bulldog inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : mail/[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 95.8 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/usr/users/bulldog/.pinerc) ======= last-time-prune-ques : 95.8 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd no-enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface no-signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys --0-1334272091-808667609=:31644 Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-ID: Content-Description: Problem Message (3 of 3) Received: from orion.alaska.edu by linknet.net; (5.65/1.1.8.2/20Apr95-1203PM) id AA16131; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 16:02:33 -0500 Received: from UA.ORION.ALASKA.EDU by VMS.ACAD2.ALASKA.EDU (PMDF V4.3-13 #8269) id <01HTWQBR6Q0095NG3B@VMS.ACAD2.ALASKA.EDU>; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 12:57:34 -0800 Received: with PMDF-MR; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 12:57:32 -0800 Mr-Received: by mta ORION; Relayed; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 12:57:32 -0800 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 12:57:32 -0800 From: Kelli J Shows To: bulldog@LINKNET.NET Message-Id: <01HTWQBRO4XI95NG3B@UA.ORION.ALASKA.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X400-Mts-Identifier: [;23752101805991/5134014@ORION] Hop-Count: 1 Subject: Re: computers Hey daddy! I have to be writing a Final today so this will be short but sweet! :) Joe has a friend that sells computers in his sqadrin. His friend can get me a IBM with 12 mega.of ram with audio, viedo, fax/modem, cd rom, bla, bla, bla, with a printer and lots of applications (writing) for 2200. He is an individual seller and fixes his computers that he sells for free if there is problems. If I wanted to only spend 2,000 I would get 8 mega. of ram., which for two hundred more I can brag to ole' pops on how fast my computer is. I also like the fact that I can get all the extra programs. But before I get it, I will look around at prices and tell you exactly what is in the package. Plus, If I get an IBM we can share applications and you could possibly teach me about the computer....right...Don't worry I will be a causious buyer, and if you think its too much for what I need, thaink about me having this for another 10 years of my life and 2,000 will be worth the money.... love you always prune!! ps. Katie's computer is as good as stripped, she barly has a writing program, plus the school of business uses IBM in their courses; so her computer is out. --0-1334272091-808667609=:31644-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 07:04:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01212; Fri, 18 Aug 95 07:04:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10873; Fri, 18 Aug 95 06:58:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dmog10.bell.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10867; Fri, 18 Aug 95 06:58:33 -0700 Received: from dmoc61.on.bell.ca by dmog10.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA23346; Fri, 18 Aug 95 09:58:09 -0400 Received: from huhc06.ON.Bell.Ca by dmoc61.on.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA01035; Fri, 18 Aug 95 09:58:04 -0400 Received: by huhc06 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17716; Fri, 18 Aug 95 09:58:02 -0400 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 09:58:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Violette" Reply-To: jviolett@on.bell.ca To: Clifford Wesley Fulford 91705162 Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP connection time In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: Bell Canada Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 17 Aug 1995, Clifford Wesley Fulford 91705162 wrote: > An IMAP server has recently been setup on the Universities central > VAX VMS system. I have changed the pine configuration on our unix > boxes to do additional mail collections from > LABEL {host}inbox Use LABEL {host:143}inbox. By default, Pine uses rsh to try to login to the IMAP server and if it can't get in it will then prompt for username and password. The delay is probably because your IMAP server doesn't have rsh enabled due to security, and it is timing out after about 30 seconds. I had the same problem and couldn't find host:port documented. 143 is the socket the the IMAP server listens on. Specifying this tells it to connect directly to the socket without trying to use rsh first. > It works fine except the connection time is unacceptably long (32seconds > - 7 minutes). Telnet connections by comparison take under 1 second > so I don't think I can blame the network. > > We dont use IMAP on the UNIX subnet so I've nothing to compare this too. > > Does anyone know what the problem is and how to cure it. > Clifford W Fulford > UNIX development > University of North London > e-mail Clifford@zodiac.unl.ac.uk > | John R. Violette | Software Development | | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 08:35:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03942; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:35:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12711; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:32:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12705; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:32:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjINy-0003EiC; Thu, 17 Aug 95 20:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy) Subject: Re: Pine vs Elm Date: 18 Aug 1995 04:21:47 +0100 Message-Id: <41110b$gd2@bell.maths.tcd.ie> References: <40jjib$k6s@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <40l1v5$dr3@nyheter.chalmers.se> <40v3dv$mdc@wup-gate.wup.de> andreas@wup.de (Andreas Klemm) writes: >: Neither seems to come with very good documentation. >Speaking for elm I can say, that it comes with a nice and >complete documentation... All you need is nroff/groff to >format the manuals... Just to explain -- I made the original comment -- I'm afraid I regard nroff as obsolete, and don't consider documentation in this format to be adequate. Maybe that is a very unusual perception. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 08:40:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04207; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:40:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01900; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:31:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01894; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:31:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjGEC-0003ESC; Thu, 17 Aug 95 18:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Thorvald Natvig Subject: Changing the FROm: line on outgoing mail? Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 23:54:04 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there ia way in Pine 3.91 to change the From: line on outgoing mail? Adding it as a customized headre want do, and changing the from: line is certainly easier for the reciever than having a reply-to line. If not in Pine, can I change my Sendmail config to do it? Ohm in case it doesn't work: Rply-to: xeno@mix.hsv.no From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 08:40:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04233; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:40:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12683; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:31:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12677; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:31:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjG12-0003ERC; Thu, 17 Aug 95 18:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wileyc@moscow.com (Christopher Wiles) Subject: Re: PINE 3.92 - [PGP] - When!? Date: 17 Aug 1995 22:08:15 GMT Message-Id: <410ekf$eab@whale.moscow.com> References: <40eaon$8pa@decaxp.harvard.edu> <40m86i$5q1k@rose.muohio.edu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Kevin C. Dorff (mental@indirect.com) wrote: > How about you press a key and it asks for passphrase and THEN signs > the letter. This is trivial to implement. I've a patch (not ready for prime-time yet) that handles public- and private-key encryption, signing, and decryption in pico. However, the way I'm doing it compromises one's passphrase in a multiuser environment (the passphrase will appear on a process list). I need to spend an hour or so and find a good workaround for this. > How about you read the message, notice it is encrypted and you ask it > to decrypt the message and it asks for passphrase and THEN decrypts > the letter. This one is a little harder to implement -- I'm still working on it. I can make this patch available to interested parties when I'm finished (probably by the end of this weekend). - -- Chris (wileyc@moscow.com) PGP mail preferred -- Finger for PGP public key "This does not mean that all the practitioners of modern art or modern politics are men who betrayed their own intelligence: most of them had nothing to betray." -- Ayn Rand, "Altruism as Appeasement" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMDO+ns0RgB9irmjdAQFFhQQAuwr/Vx014HWAIWY20MKdxMvOAWPqWPVQ pxW/8xp4M1dzFyxzh0cxq7q3ftZbVnm01EwOeS1atCp43Ff4DY7sg7LFyvhaLnQH BFz9VJnAwkh+3ET44rKeUlhMKwom+hq3KtPCGgcbkqiJocoEI/fxGoQcHKSeheYQ CE3L9mhPW6Q= =Rjdq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 08:42:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04347; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:42:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02045; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:35:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02039; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:35:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjKBw-0003FbC; Thu, 17 Aug 95 22:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kmsh@public.sta.net.cn (KMSH) Subject: Get Mail Date: 18 Aug 1995 05:17:54 GMT Message-Id: <4117q2$dfi@info.sta.net.cn> Subject: Get Mail Newsgroups: comp.mail.smail Organization: Shanghai Post & Telecommunication Summary: Keywords: Now I start to use Internet. I have receive a lot of mail and other files in my host machine. I can only read these messages in the host machine. Would you please tell me how I can retrieve these files from the host machine to my own computer. Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 08:43:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04408; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:43:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02147; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:39:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02141; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:39:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjRjh-0003GLC; Fri, 18 Aug 95 06:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gras Regis Subject: Pine and uudecode Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 09:58:22 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any way to visualize a uuencoded message with pine ? Thanks for any help. *---------------------------------------------------------------------------* * Regis Gras | Tel (33) 76 82 62 60 * * Laboratoire CEPHAG | ou (33) 76 82 64 26 * * ENSIEG, Rue de la Houille Blanche BP 46 | Fax (33) 76 82 63 84 * * 38402 Saint Martin d'Heres CEDEX, France | e-mail gras@cephag.observ-gr.fr* *---------------------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 08:44:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04450; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:44:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02167; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:39:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02161; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:39:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjSgh-0003GVC; Fri, 18 Aug 95 07:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Abraham Gutman Subject: [Q:] Attachements Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 07:04:44 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When I "attach" a file in 3.91, the file is actually becoming part of the body of the message. What I would like is for that attachment to "realy" be one. I have received messages with attachements into my box. I have not found the right combination in the setup to achieve this. Any hints? Thanks, Abraham From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 08:45:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04545; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:45:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12936; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:39:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12930; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:39:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjS13-0003GNC; Fri, 18 Aug 95 07:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: russell@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz (Russell Fulton) Subject: Re: Pine vs Elm Date: 18 Aug 1995 08:53:05 GMT Message-Id: <411kdh$mfi@net.auckland.ac.nz> References: <40jjib$k6s@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <40l1v5$dr3@nyheter.chalmers.se> <40v3dv$mdc@wup-gate.wup.de> <41110b$gd2@bell.maths.tcd.ie> tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy) writes: >andreas@wup.de (Andreas Klemm) writes: >>: Neither seems to come with very good documentation. >>Speaking for elm I can say, that it comes with a nice and >>complete documentation... All you need is nroff/groff to >>format the manuals... >Just to explain -- I made the original comment -- >I'm afraid I regard nroff as obsolete, >and don't consider documentation in this format >to be adequate. Why does it matter how the documentation is marked up so long as you can easily print it? Personally I agree that *roff is an abomination but no long as no one asks me to use it to write my documentations I don't care if others choose to. It does have the unparalled advantage that it is available on most UNIX systems. Complaining about Elm's documentaion because it is marked up using *roff is a bit like saying that the wine is no good because the bottle is covered with dust and cobwebs. Cheers, Russell. -- Russell Fulton, Computer Center, University of Auckland, New Zealand. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 08:47:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04611; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:47:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12948; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:39:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12942; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:39:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjSOM-0003GSC; Fri, 18 Aug 95 07:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tftfm@aurora.alaska.edu (Tom McGrane) Subject: Suppressing Fcc in Unix Pine Date: 18 Aug 1995 07:37:14 GMT Message-Id: <411fva$8tu@news.alaska.edu> How do you stop Unix Pine from saving a copy of every message sent into the Fcc folder? Help in setup/config says to use "" as the "default Fcc folder name. but that just causes a folder called "" to be created. Thanks. -- Tom McGrane KUAC FM/TV University of Alaska Fairbanks TFTFM@AURORA.ALASKA.EDU From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 08:47:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04708; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:47:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12928; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:39:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12922; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:39:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjRjh-0003GKC; Fri, 18 Aug 95 06:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: reccmo@unidhp1.uni-c.dk (Christian Mondrup) Subject: Re: Changing the FROm: line on outgoing mail? Date: 18 Aug 1995 07:34:35 GMT Message-Id: <411fqb$psq@news.uni-c.dk> References: Thorvald Natvig (xeno@mix.hsv.no) wrote: : Is there ia way in Pine 3.91 to change the From: line on outgoing mail? : Adding it as a customized headre want do, and changing the from: line is : certainly easier for the reciever than having a reply-to line. : If not in Pine, can I change my Sendmail config to do it? : Ohm in case it doesn't work: Rply-to: xeno@mix.hsv.no The method to do this is described in Pine Technical Notes, Section 7. Find the distribution file pine3.91/pine/osdep/os-xxx.h and remove the commentary char from the line: #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM /* comment out to not allow changing From */ and then recompile pine. Then you may set up your mail headers including From: from within the Pine setup menu. -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Christian Mondrup + + UNI-C Aarhus, Danish Computing Centre for Research and Education. + + Olof Palmes Alle 38, DK 8200 Aarhus N. + + + + Phone: +45 86 78 44 44 + + Telefax: +45 86 78 44 55 + + E-Mail: Christian.Mondrup@uni-c.dk + + + + Opinions expressed are mine and do not reflect those of my employer. + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 08:51:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04849; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:51:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02195; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:40:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02189; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:40:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjT2t-000393C; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mark_keintz@pop.upenn.edu Subject: Re: Pine vs Elm Date: Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:17:30 Message-Id: <4120fc$ado@netnews.upenn.edu> References: <40jjib$k6s@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <40l1v5$dr3@nyheter.chalmers.se> > I have to choose betwwen elm and pine > for a large (180) freshman class next year. > > What are the merits and demerits of these rivals ? Among other activities, my group supports e-mail on PC's and UNIX systems for about 70 users (faculty, staff, and graduate students). On the UNIX system, which accounts for about 95% of all our groups e-mail, both elm and pine are available. Virtually all our users chose pine, primarily because it is easier to learn. Even a few users who were already familiar with elm on another campus system moved to pine once we set up our system about four years ago. At that time, the following elements made pine the choice: - Far easier addressbook manipulation. It was (and is) well integrated into the pine system, it was full-screen, and generally very easy to update and modify. - Far easier folder manipulation. Again, it was full screen, and again the ability to manipulate folders, was far superior to the version of elm we used at that time. - Easier access to, and better self-documentation of the configuration file. - Pine could read, and post to, newsgroups then. To the best of my knowledge, elm couldn't. Features that the current version of pine has that are important to us include: - MIME - IMAP (as we begin to shift the locus of our mail user agents to the desktop). mark keintz Computer Core Director Population Studies Center mark_keintz@pop.upenn.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 08:55:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05151; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:55:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13222; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:52:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13215; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:52:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjTf8-00038MC; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nick Harrison Subject: what is mkpgp Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 09:53:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: References: <40eaon$8pa@decaxp.harvard.edu> <40m86i$5q1k@rose.muohio.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Many people seem to be advocating using mkpgp until pgp is integrated into pine. What is mkpgp and where can it be found? Thanks =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= = Emacs, more than an editor. | harrisoc@lurch.winthop.edu = = Its a way of life | = =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 09:11:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06580; Fri, 18 Aug 95 09:11:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03119; Fri, 18 Aug 95 09:08:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03113; Fri, 18 Aug 95 09:08:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjTuP-00038EC; Fri, 18 Aug 95 09:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Arley Carter Subject: Pine 3.91 & Cyrus Imap Mail Server Date: 18 Aug 1995 14:24:58 GMT Message-Id: <4127rq$p57@server2.ols.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying trying to use Pine as a client to Carnegy Mellon's Cyrus IMAP4 mail server (version 1.3). I am running into some anomalies doing this. I would appreciate mail from anyone who has experience on this subject. Gory details will follow if requested. :-) Thanks. -arc Arley Carter Tradewinds Technologies, Inc ac@hawk.twinds.com || Technology is great, when it works! || From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 10:03:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08846; Fri, 18 Aug 95 10:03:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15084; Fri, 18 Aug 95 10:01:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15076; Fri, 18 Aug 95 10:01:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjUjA-00038EC; Fri, 18 Aug 95 09:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tim Simpson Subject: Building Pine 3.91 on an ICL DRS6000 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 16:33:23 GMT Message-Id: <602322167wnr@cddc.demon.co.uk> Has anyone built pine 3.91 on an ICL DRS6000. I am using the makefile makefile.sv4 but as I soon as I try and make pine it fails with a fatal error. here is an extract from the build # cd pine # make -f makefile.sv4 cc -DSV4 -O -DSYSTYPE=\"SV4\" -c addrbook.c "/usr/include/stdlib.h", line 94: identifier redeclared: system "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 121: identifier redeclared: rename "addrbook.c", line 7465: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast *** Error code 1 (bu21) make: fatal error. has anybody got any ideas as to what the problem is ? -- best wishes Tim _______________________________________________________________________ Tim Simpson Dundee City Council Scotland Email tim@cddc.demon.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1382 434164 http://metro.turnpike.net/tim/index.html All views expressed are my own not my employers From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 10:36:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10085; Fri, 18 Aug 95 10:36:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04752; Fri, 18 Aug 95 10:31:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04746; Fri, 18 Aug 95 10:31:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjVDM-00038EC; Fri, 18 Aug 95 10:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: klm@nist.gov (Kenneth Manheimer) Subject: [Unix Pine 3.91] Selection of message headers in regular display? Date: 18 Aug 1995 12:57:14 -0400 Message-Id: Howdy. I've got another feature request. It stems from wanting to see the 'X-organization:' header line in my regular message display. Ie, not have to switch to full-headers to see this non-standard (but typically present) header line. More generally, i think it would be worthwhile to enable the user to specify optional headers which they would like to have included among the select set. I looked through the code a bit, and it appears that the brief-header- mode is restricted to a small, hard-coded selection of standard header lines. (c-client/rfc822.c:rfc822_header() and pine/mailview.c:format_envelope() seem to be the relevant routines.) Is there any way, currently, that i can extend that list at the user level? If not, are there any plans to make this more user configurable? I'd certainly like to be able to see the X-Organization: line, when it is present, and i think there will be other, similar needs. Thanks. ken ken.manheimer@nist.gov, 301 975-3539 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 10:40:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10261; Fri, 18 Aug 95 10:40:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16042; Fri, 18 Aug 95 10:36:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16036; Fri, 18 Aug 95 10:36:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjVHO-00038EC; Fri, 18 Aug 95 10:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynch.94@osu.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: Re: Changing the FROm: line on outgoing mail? Date: 18 Aug 1995 12:44:27 -0400 Message-Id: References: You can have pine change the FROM line as a customized header IF that functionality is compiled into pine. The file you need to change is: pine3.91/pine/osdep/os-xxx.h Just change the flag ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM and recompile. Or, you can have sendmail do this by using the sendmail USERDB option. However, for the USERDB option to work with pine, a little more work is involved than what the sendmail docs describe, since sendmail expects mail to be changed by the database to be of the from "FROM: user" instead of pine's default of "FROM: user@localhost". Maybe 3.92 will have a configuration option to fix this? (HOPEFULLY!) But until then, you can do the following: Compile sendmail with Berkley's USERDB option defined. (If your running Linux, you can get a precompiled binary from lss.afit.af.mil:/pub/Linux/system/Mail/delivery/sendmail-8.6.12b-bin.tgz) Replace your existing sendmail and makemap binaries with the new ones. Then follow the instructions included in that to set it up with the USERDB feature, or, follow the below from the FAQ: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * How do I rewrite my From: lines to read ``First_Last@My.Domain''? There are a couple of ways of doing this. This describes using the "user database" code. This is still experimental, and was intended for a different purpose -- however, it does work with a bit of care. It does require that you have the Berkeley "db" package installed (it won't work with DBM). First, create your input file. This should have lines like: loginname:mailname First_Last First_Last:maildrop loginname Install it in (say) /etc/userdb. Create the database: makemap btree /etc/userdb.db < /etc/userdb ---------------------------------------------------------------------- In your /etc/sendmail.cf file, add the following line before the rulesets. (I put mine right after the line saying "Kdequote dequote" and before the "Special Macros" section"): # Define our userdb file for pine rewrites Kuserdb btree -o /etc/userdb.db Then, add the following ruleset #1. (I put mine right after Ruleset 0): ################################################## ### Ruleset 1, rewrite sender header & envelope ## ################################################## #Thanks to Bjart Kvarme S1 R$- < @ $=w . > $* $: $1 < @ $2 . > $3 ?? $1 username@localhost ? R$+ ?? $+ $: $1 ?? $(userdb $2 : mailname $: @ $) R$+ ?? @ $@ $1 Not found R$+ ?? $+ $>3 $2 Found, rewrite #NOTE ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ # Use Tab Characters Use Tab Characters in these regions # to make three columns (the line with "mailname" only has 2 columns). This is how mine is set up and it works great without having to alter pine's code. Also, if you have a "SLIP" or "PPP" connection, another good thing to do in the /etc/sendmail.cf file is to move the line for the nameserver lookup in ruleset 96 to the bottom of the ruleset so that your local mail can be delivered even when you don't have a connection to a nameserver. The key two lines to move to the bottom of the ruleset are: # pass to name server to make hostname canonical R$* < @ $* $~P > $* $: $1 < @ $[ $2 $3 $] > $4 Obviously, recompiling pine would be the easiest solution. The benefit of fixing up sendmail to do this is that your mail will always have the correct from line regardless of which mailer you use (pine, elm, mh). Another plus is that your sent-mail folder will continue to say "TO: whomever" instead of just filling the from column with your name. Hope this helps. Jerry On Thu, 17 Aug 1995, Thorvald Natvig wrote: > Is there ia way in Pine 3.91 to change the From: line on outgoing mail? > Adding it as a customized headre want do, and changing the from: line is > certainly easier for the reciever than having a reply-to line. > If not in Pine, can I change my Sendmail config to do it? > > Ohm in case it doesn't work: Rply-to: xeno@mix.hsv.no From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 12:24:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14813; Fri, 18 Aug 95 12:24:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06866; Fri, 18 Aug 95 12:16:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06860; Fri, 18 Aug 95 12:16:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjWpv-00038EC; Fri, 18 Aug 95 12:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cusgcbs@alpha.oac.ucla.edu (Chris Stromsoe) Subject: changes from 3.89 to 3.91 (help) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 11:31:03 Message-Id: Hello, We were successfully using Pine 3.89 and the .pinerc user-id= command to spoof mail so that it looked like it all came from one account. We recently upgraded to Pine 3.91 and the .pinerc user-id= command is no longer working, so the mail that is replied to is being sent to incorrect accounts. We have several users responding to the mail, and it needs to appear as if it is all coming from one single account. Thanks... Chris From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 12:24:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14827; Fri, 18 Aug 95 12:24:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18400; Fri, 18 Aug 95 12:16:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18394; Fri, 18 Aug 95 12:16:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjWpx-00038HC; Fri, 18 Aug 95 12:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sburn@smbtech.com Subject: Pine does not write debug file Date: 18 Aug 1995 02:56:56 GMT Message-Id: <410vho$nnq@news.znet.net> I have a strange problem with Pine not being able to write its debug file when prompted. Using "pine -d9 user@address" or "pine -d 9 user@address" will start Pine, but no debug files are written. I believe that the default location is to the user's home directory. I've looked there and on the whole filesystem for .pine-debugX, with no luck. I can't find anything in the pine.conf that controls how the debug file are written. The rest of Pine works great. any ideas ? **************************************************** *** Steve M. Burnett sburn@smbtech.com *** **************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 14:54:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20954; Fri, 18 Aug 95 14:54:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10124; Fri, 18 Aug 95 14:47:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10118; Fri, 18 Aug 95 14:47:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjZCI-00038EC; Fri, 18 Aug 95 14:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: FAQ Message-Id: <95230.171027GMCGREG@wvnvm.wvnet.edu> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 17:10:27 EDT References: Sorry to clog things up with such as this, but: Could someone tell me where I could locate a PINE FAQ? I've been trying to run PINE on my VAX account and none of my commands are working properly (through my dial-up connection using Procomm Plus on a PC). I'd like to try to look at some docs and figure out why. Went to ftp.cac.washington.edu but pine-info would not download because it is a "plain" file. Don't understand.... Thanks Gordon GMCGREGOR@AOL.COM From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 15:24:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22481; Fri, 18 Aug 95 15:24:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22680; Fri, 18 Aug 95 15:17:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22674; Fri, 18 Aug 95 15:17:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjZfM-00038EC; Fri, 18 Aug 95 15:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stuart Pearce <102110.3553@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Help! with System V R3 on NCR Tower Date: 18 Aug 1995 21:51:04 GMT Message-Id: <413208$apc$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com> I'm trying to 'build sv4' for PINE 3.91 on a NCR Tower 32 model 400 which is a 6-7 year old system running AT7T System V Release 3.0. I have a few questions which hopefully someone can answer. - Is there an 'old' version of PINE that ran under SVR3? - In 3.91 is there a 'preferred' build that should be selected, ie 'build sco' to run under SVR3? - Are there other 'free' mail frontends more suited to SVR3? - Is this a lost cause? Thanks, Stuart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 15:48:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24120; Fri, 18 Aug 95 15:48:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23351; Fri, 18 Aug 95 15:39:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23345; Fri, 18 Aug 95 15:39:52 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24532; Fri, 18 Aug 95 15:39:50 -0700 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:39:45 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: GMCGREG@wvnvm.wvnet.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: FAQ In-Reply-To: <95230.171027GMCGREG@wvnvm.wvnet.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The Pine FAQ is available in several forms. If you are using Pine (or other IMAP client) on a system connected to the Internet, you can read it as a folder-collection adding a folder-collections entry of "Pine FAQ" *{pine.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/faq/[] in the Setup/Config screen or your .pinerc file. It is also available via anonymous ftp in ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/faq.mbox and in the Pine Information Center, http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine You can also send a message to pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu which will send you a copy via email. --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 18 Aug 1995 GMCGREG@wvnvm.wvnet.edu wrote: > Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 17:10:27 EDT > From: GMCGREG@wvnvm.wvnet.edu > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: FAQ > > Sorry to clog things up with such as this, but: > Could someone tell me where I could locate a PINE > FAQ? I've been trying to run PINE on my VAX account > and none of my commands are working properly (through > my dial-up connection using Procomm Plus on a PC). I'd > like to try to look at some docs and figure out why. > Went to ftp.cac.washington.edu but pine-info would > not download because it is a "plain" file. Don't > understand.... > > Thanks > Gordon > GMCGREGOR@AOL.COM > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 15:52:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24450; Fri, 18 Aug 95 15:52:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11511; Fri, 18 Aug 95 15:45:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11505; Fri, 18 Aug 95 15:45:34 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24725; Fri, 18 Aug 95 15:45:31 -0700 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:45:28 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: sburn@smbtech.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine does not write debug file In-Reply-To: <410vho$nnq@news.znet.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It sounds like you have a version of Pine with debugging tyurned off at compile time... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 18 Aug 1995 sburn@smbtech.com wrote: > Date: 18 Aug 1995 02:56:56 GMT > From: sburn@smbtech.com > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Pine does not write debug file > > I have a strange problem with Pine not being able to write its debug file > when prompted. Using "pine -d9 user@address" or "pine -d 9 user@address" > will start Pine, but no debug files are written. I believe that the > default location is to the user's home directory. I've looked there and > on the whole filesystem for .pine-debugX, with no luck. I can't find > anything in the pine.conf that controls how the debug file are written. > The rest of Pine works great. any ideas ? > > **************************************************** > *** Steve M. Burnett sburn@smbtech.com *** > **************************************************** > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 15:54:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24570; Fri, 18 Aug 95 15:54:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11569; Fri, 18 Aug 95 15:47:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11563; Fri, 18 Aug 95 15:47:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sja9e-00038EC; Fri, 18 Aug 95 15:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stanley Tomshinsky Subject: Cc Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 23:31:54 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I sent the following, but in my sent-mail there was only one message, how, when, or if the others in Cc: are sent? From stom@galactica.it Fri Aug 18 22:39:30 1995 Status: O X-Status: Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 22:39:04 +0000 () From: Stanley Tomshinsky X-Sender: stom@localhost To: espgb2@ra.msstate.edu cc: sb@theory.lcs.mit.edu, rst@ai.mit.edu, l.turin@ucl.ac.uk, bpassero@rle.mit.edu, webmaster@mit.edu, reading-room@lcs.mit.edu Subject: Marconi Centennial Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE And while I am at it can anyone tell me if Pine.AMI.3.91 (Amiga) has the experimental POP driver. Galactica isn't running IMAP "yet" and before I get POP service, which is extra; I want to know how I can handle incoming mail. I do have popd (pop3) installed and a program called AmiPOP which connects to netserver and could download mail to UUMail:stom. Will Pine recognize this mail, if I can't get:"{192.106.152.1/pop3}inbox" to work? It is really a pleasure to work with Pine and I hope to use it fully in the future.............Stan PS..and how does one set the GMT? stom@galactica.it ------------------------------------------------------------ Stanley Tomshinsky via Fiori Chiari 20 Milano 20121 Italia From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 16:08:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25376; Fri, 18 Aug 95 16:08:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23860; Fri, 18 Aug 95 16:02:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23854; Fri, 18 Aug 95 16:02:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjaOi-00038EC; Fri, 18 Aug 95 16:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: l102245@cliffy.lfwc.lockheed.com (Brookshire JT) Subject: n Date: 18 Aug 1995 22:33:30 GMT Message-Id: <4134fq$c43@cliffy.lfwc.lockheed.com> How do you spellcheck a composed message? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 16:33:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26272; Fri, 18 Aug 95 16:33:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12470; Fri, 18 Aug 95 16:30:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12464; Fri, 18 Aug 95 16:30:19 -0700 Received: from zodiac.unl.ac.uk by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14631; Fri, 18 Aug 95 16:30:18 -0700 Received: by zodiac.unl.ac.uk (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA10450; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 00:26:53 +0100 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 00:26:53 +0100 From: cwf@zodiac.unl.ac.uk (Clifford) Message-Id: <9508182326.AA10450@zodiac.unl.ac.uk> To: jviolett@on.bell.ca Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP connection time >> An IMAP server has recently been setup on the Universities central >> VAX VMS system. I have changed the pine configuration on our unix >> boxes to do additional mail collections from >> LABEL {host}inbox > >Use LABEL {host:143}inbox. By default, Pine uses rsh to try to login to >the IMAP server and if it can't get in it will then prompt for username >and password. The delay is probably because your IMAP server doesn't >have rsh enabled due to security, and it is timing out after about 30 >seconds. I had the same problem and couldn't find host:port documented. >143 is the socket the the IMAP server listens on. Specifying this tells >it to connect directly to the socket without trying to use rsh first. > >| John R. Violette | Software Development | > > Thanks John that was it. Clifford W Fulford University of North London CLMS-UNIX development E-mail: Clifford@zodiac.unl.ac.uk Clifford@compulink.co.uk C.Fulford@unl.ac.uk Telephone: 0171-607-2789 x 7314. Home 0181-986-5239 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 17:18:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28309; Fri, 18 Aug 95 17:18:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25619; Fri, 18 Aug 95 17:15:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25613; Fri, 18 Aug 95 17:15:31 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 19 Aug 95 08:13:14 +0800 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 08:13:13 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Tim Simpson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Building Pine 3.91 on an ICL DRS6000 In-Reply-To: <602322167wnr@cddc.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 18 Aug 1995, Tim Simpson wrote: > > Has anyone built pine 3.91 on an ICL DRS6000. > > I am using the makefile makefile.sv4 > > but as I soon as I try and make pine it fails with a fatal error. > > here is an extract from the build > > # cd pine > # make -f makefile.sv4 > cc -DSV4 -O -DSYSTYPE=\"SV4\" -c addrbook.c > "/usr/include/stdlib.h", line 94: identifier redeclared: system > "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 121: identifier redeclared: rename > "addrbook.c", line 7465: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI > C; use explicit cast > > *** Error code 1 (bu21) > > make: fatal error. > > has anybody got any ideas as to what the problem is ? Try adding -Dconst= to the CFLAGS= line of the makefile. A similar error occurs when building for Solaris and this fixes it. Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 18:19:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00486; Fri, 18 Aug 95 18:19:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14414; Fri, 18 Aug 95 18:17:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14408; Fri, 18 Aug 95 18:17:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjcUP-00038EC; Fri, 18 Aug 95 18:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Suppressing Fcc in Unix Pine Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 20:50:14 -0400 Message-Id: References: <411fva$8tu@news.alaska.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <411fva$8tu@news.alaska.edu> On 18 Aug 1995, Tom McGrane wrote: | How do you stop Unix Pine from saving a copy of every message sent into | the Fcc folder? | | Help in setup/config says to use "" as the "default Fcc folder name. but | that just causes a folder called "" to be created. Normally I save my outgoing mail in some folder or other, but when I do NOT want to save some one particular message, I put the cursor on the Fcc: line in the header and press Ctrl-K and then . On Un*x Pine 3.91, at least, it works just fine. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 18:23:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00689; Fri, 18 Aug 95 18:23:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26732; Fri, 18 Aug 95 18:22:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26726; Fri, 18 Aug 95 18:22:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjcZP-00038MC; Fri, 18 Aug 95 18:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Re: Pine and uudecode Message-Id: Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 19:58:13 -0600 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 18 Aug 1995, Gras Regis wrote: | | Is there any way to visualize a uuencoded message with pine ? | Thanks for any help. | I'm not sure what you mean, but send blank email to slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu with Subject: help for some (Unix) uu[en,de]code support. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp1.1.4, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMDTweuBu0383Om6dAQFtXwQA19fDM+6pWkpN5IwtwrVwQW/SLJNLIO4/ 3onLqtNIZ+d0QbQDLz+dtAn1Oc1n2+Kp2D/sUsGq+Z62uvHvKOXGSinV+EyiMUdU Gjmd91R9cTGyTLdWQsUkRlY3PZ/eeICZ1dF4yD+afS383k1w4awgDfKzh5uFXz2T OtBiJA40fyw= =FLD1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka 49860926614586AF "The strongest reason for the people to retain their 54105BA338FBF0FB right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 18:29:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00806; Fri, 18 Aug 95 18:29:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14525; Fri, 18 Aug 95 18:27:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14519; Fri, 18 Aug 95 18:27:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjcbc-00038OC; Fri, 18 Aug 95 18:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Re: what is mkpgp Message-Id: Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 20:05:20 -0600 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 18 Aug 1995, Nick Harrison wrote: | Date: Fri, 18 AUG 1995 09:53:40 -0400 (EDT) | From: Nick Harrison | Newgroups: comp.mail.pine | Subject: what is mkpgp | | Many people seem to be advocating using mkpgp until pgp is integrated | into pine. What is mkpgp and where can it be found? | mkpgp is a c-shell script which serves as a liaison for the Pine mailer/news reader and pgp. It features: external editor of your choice, external spell checker of your choice, encryption (with or without signing), signing (with or without encryption), encrypted attachments selected via browser, effortless public key additions from e-mail, decryption & signature verification, effortless encrypted attachment extraction, and more... To get mkpgp, send blank e-mail to slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu with Subject: mkpgp A signed, ascii-armored message should show up in you mailbox within the hour. Process the message with "pgp -p" to produce mkpgp.message. Read mkpgp.message. (You can add my keys with finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka before you process the message if you want to check the signature.) To receive updates, send blank e-mail to slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu with Subject: addtomkpgplist mkpgp will show up each time the modification date changes. | Thanks | | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | = Emacs, more than an editor. | harrisoc@lurch.winthop.edu = | = Its a way of life | = | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | You might prefer to run emacs as an alt-editor, and use MailCrypt: Mailcrypt is an Emacs lisp package which provides a simple interface to cryptographic functions with PGP. It was written by Patrick LoPresti (patl@lcs.mit.edu) and Jin Choi (jin@atype.com). The latest version of Mailcrypt is always (?) available through the Mailcrypt home page at `http://cag-www.lcs.mit.edu/mailcrypt/'. An FTP mirror is at `ftp://cag.lcs.mit.edu/pub/patl/'. To install the Mailcrypt package on your system, follow the directions in the file `INSTALL'. To hook Mailcrypt into your mail and news browsers, follow the directions in the "Installation" section of the Mailcrypt manual. If you don't know how to use the Emacs Info browser, you should learn; type `C-h i' and poke around. You can read the Info version of the Mailcrypt manual by doing `C-u C-h i' on the file `mailcrypt.info'. Or read the HTML version of the manual which is directly accessible from the Mailcrypt home page. To automatically be informed of improvements to Mailcrypt, add yourself to the (very low volume) Mailcrypt announcement list. Send Email to mc-announce-request@cag.lcs.mit.edu with a request to be added. Send all bug reports and comments to the authors. And most of all, enjoy! - Patrick LoPresti (patl@lcs.mit.edu) and Jin Choi (jin@atype.com) Thu Jun 22 19:58:35 1995 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp1.1.4, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMDTu5+Bu0383Om6dAQHQ2gP+OeXbBHu8BxMnCyE4ILTRWZyF0UBGjfqO a4SrXoFsIn5WzI/4RPjaryqdk5TQ2k4634I2CpZ5CQS3O2dT3ynS0Cdj7/ICJAdm cUoT+hTwTog4N1iMzUWZyaM0hEgz09+BYltxzWlrHVKaVBoR+eoplgIcWGRfEWAr lr1s01gxOWU= =Qdtz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka 49860926614586AF "The strongest reason for the people to retain their 54105BA338FBF0FB right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 18 20:12:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02273; Fri, 18 Aug 95 20:12:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15623; Fri, 18 Aug 95 20:10:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15617; Fri, 18 Aug 95 20:10:26 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 19 Aug 95 11:08:08 +0800 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 11:08:07 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and uudecode In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 18 Aug 1995, J. Kelly Cunningham wrote: > On Fri, 18 Aug 1995, Gras Regis wrote: > > | > | Is there any way to visualize a uuencoded message with pine ? > | Thanks for any help. > | > > I'm not sure what you mean, but send blank email to I believe he is asking if pine can decode a uuencoded file. The answer is , yes. Simply pipe "|" the message to uudecode. Make sure the | command is enabled in the configuration Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 19 05:45:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13033; Sat, 19 Aug 95 05:45:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05290; Sat, 19 Aug 95 05:42:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from galactica.galactica.it by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05284; Sat, 19 Aug 95 05:41:59 -0700 Received: from localhost (slip@[151.99.164.2]) by galactica.galactica.it (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA07980 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 14:27:53 +0200 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 14:39:32 +0000 () From: Stanley Tomshinsky X-Sender: stom@localhost To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Various Questions Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ** I sent the following, but in my sent-mail there was only one message, how, when, or if the others in Cc: are sent? From stom@galactica.it Fri Aug 18 22:39:30 1995 Status: O X-Status: Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 22:39:04 +0000 () From: Stanley Tomshinsky X-Sender: stom@localhost To: pgb2@ra.msstate.edu cc: sb@theory.lcs.mit.edu, rst@ai.mit.edu, l.turin@ucl.ac.uk, bpassero@rle.mit.edu, webmaster@mit.edu, reading-room@lcs.mit.edu Subject: Marconi Centennial Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE ** And while I am at it can anyone tell me if Pine.AMI.3.91 has the experimental POP driver. Galactica isn't running IMAP "yet" and before I get POP service, which is extra; I want to know how I can handle incoming mail. ** I do have popd (pop3) installed and a program called AmiPOP which connects to netserver and could download mail to UUMail:stom, which I designated as INBOX. Will Pine recognize this as mail or give me an INBOX (Read Only), which wouldn't be the end of the world because I could respond anyway...only the subject becomes INBOX etc...I did set incoming-folders: {192.106.152.1/pop3}inbox...and hope if I get an affermative to the "pop driver" question everything will be simp- lified. ** How can I set the GMT instead of "+0000 ()"? For the timebeing I get my mail QWKed to me. It is really a pleasure to work with Pine and I hope to use it fully in the future.............Stan Debug output of the Pine program (at debug level 2). Version 3.91 Sat Aug 19 13:39:57 1995 reading_pinerc "pine:pine.conf" Read 5325 characters: reading_pinerc "AmiTCP:.pinerc" Read 6277 characters: ======= Current_val options set ======= user-domain : galactica.it smtp-server : 192.106.152.1 nntp-server : 192.106.152.1 inbox-path : AmiTCP:UUMail/stom incoming-folders : {192.106.152.1/pop3}inbox folder-collections : AmiTCP:UUMail/[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail read-message-folder : AmiTCP:UUMail/to-read signature-file : UULIB:.signature address-book : .addressbook feature-list : signature-at-bottom : save-will-quote-leading-froms : old-growth : news-post-without-validation : enable-tab-completion : enable-aggregate-command-set : auto-open-next-unread : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : include-text-in-reply : news-approximates-new-status : news-read-in-newsrc-order : enable-full-header-cmd : compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm : no-quit-without-confirm : no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd : use-current-dir : enable-mail-check-cue : auto-move-read-msgs saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last editor : TTX:ttx image-viewer : A:ShowGIF use-only-domain-name : No printer : lpr -Plp_mfcf personal-print-comma : lpr -Plp_mfcf standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 95.8 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (AmiTCP:.pinerc) ======= personal-name : Stanley Tomshinsky user-domain : galactica.it smtp-server : 192.106.152.1 nntp-server : 192.106.152.1 inbox-path : AmiTCP:UUMail/stom incoming-folders : {192.106.152.1/pop3}inbox folder-collections : AmiTCP:UUMail/[] read-message-folder : AmiTCP:UUMail/to-read signature-file : UULIB:.signature feature-list : signature-at-bottom : save-will-quote-leading-froms : old-growth : news-post-without-validation : enable-tab-completion : enable-aggregate-command-set : auto-open-next-unread : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : include-text-in-reply : news-approximates-new-status : news-read-in-newsrc-order : enable-full-header-cmd : compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm : no-quit-without-confirm : no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd : use-current-dir : enable-mail-check-cue : auto-move-read-msgs saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder editor : TTX:ttx image-viewer : A:ShowGIF use-only-domain-name : No printer : lpr -Plp_mfcf personal-print-comma : lpr -Plp_mfcf last-time-prune-ques : 95.8 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (pine:pine.conf) ======= user-domain : galactica.it smtp-server : 192.106.152.1 nntp-server : 192.106.152.1 inbox-path : AmiTCP:UUMail/stom incoming-folders : {192.106.152.1/pop3}inbox folder-collections : AmiTCP:UUMail/[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : UULIB:.signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last editor : TTX:ttx image-viewer : A:showGIF use-only-domain-name : no printer : /pine/lpr personal-print-comma : /pine/lpr standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link auto-move-read-msgs auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly enable-bounce-cmd enable-flag-cmd enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue enable-suspend enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply include-text-in-reply news-approximates-new-status news-post-without-validation news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom use-current-dir no-use-function-keys Userid: stom Fullname: "Stanley Tomshinsky" User domain name being used "galactica.it" Local Domain name being used "localhost" Host name being used "localhost" Mail Domain name being used (by c-client too)"galactica.it" Context AmiTCP:UUMail/[] type: LOCAL new win size -----<41 77>------ Terminal type: amiga Context [] type: LOCAL Context AmiTCP:UUMail/[] type: LOCAL Context *{192.106.152.1/nntp}[] type: REMOTE BBOARD OLDTECH About to open folder "INBOX" inbox: "INBOX" Opened folder "AmiTCP:UUMail/stom" with 0 messages Sorting by Arrival - mailcap_free - ---- MAIN_MENU_SCREEN ---- new win size -----<41 77>------ new win size -----<26 77>------ ---- QUIT SCREEN ---- Want_to read: RETURN (13) expunge and close mail stream "AmiTCP:UUMail/stom" about to end_tty_driver - completely_done_with_adrbks - - mailcap_free - stom@galactica.it ------------------------------------------------------------ Stanley Tomshinsky via Fiori Chiari 20 Milano 20121 Italia From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 19 07:16:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14155; Sat, 19 Aug 95 07:16:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06348; Sat, 19 Aug 95 07:14:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06342; Sat, 19 Aug 95 07:14:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjodt-00038DC; Sat, 19 Aug 95 07:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bsaffo01@cad.vmss.gmeds.com (Brian Safford) Subject: Common addressbook between PC-Pine and Unix Pine Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 13:36:33 GMT Message-Id: Is there a way to share a personal address book between PC-Pine and Unix? I get file permission errors on the Unix file when I configure PC-Pine ( {mailhost}addrbook ) Thanks in advance, Brian Safford +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Brian H. Safford Senior Systems Engineer Electronic Data Systems | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Cadillac World Headquarters GM Technical Center Warren, MI 48090 | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 19 08:55:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15513; Sat, 19 Aug 95 08:55:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23259; Sat, 19 Aug 95 08:49:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23253; Sat, 19 Aug 95 08:49:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjq5S-00038DC; Sat, 19 Aug 95 08:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pjh@mccc.edu (Pete HOLSBERG) Subject: Re: Posting A Mail Message Message-Id: Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 14:58:21 GMT References: Paul O Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) wrote: : Are you trying to post to a newsgroup via email? To : post directly, put the cursor anywhere in the header and : press Ctrl-R, for "rich headers." That should display a : field for newsgroups. YES!!! Thanks a lot. I didn't see that when I looked for help on-line. Pete From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 19 09:51:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16388; Sat, 19 Aug 95 09:51:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08156; Sat, 19 Aug 95 09:49:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08150; Sat, 19 Aug 95 09:49:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjr1s-00038DC; Sat, 19 Aug 95 09:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mbm@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Malcolm Mladenovic) Subject: Re: Building Pine 3.91 on an ICL DRS6000 Message-Id: References: <602322167wnr@cddc.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 15:59:24 GMT In article <602322167wnr@cddc.demon.co.uk> tim@cddc.demon.co.uk writes: ># make -f makefile.sv4 > cc -DSV4 -O -DSYSTYPE=\"SV4\" -c addrbook.c > "/usr/include/stdlib.h", line 94: identifier redeclared: system > "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 121: identifier redeclared: rename > >has anybody got any ideas as to what the problem is ? In my experience this is usually caused by the program having declarations for these functions that do not match the prototype in the system header files. Try grep'ing for them in the .h files and/or the addrbook.c file itself. (I've never built pine myself so I can't be very sure about this.) -Malcolm [usual disclaimer applies - I do not speak for my employer] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 19 10:34:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17389; Sat, 19 Aug 95 10:34:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24303; Sat, 19 Aug 95 10:32:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from saul3.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24297; Sat, 19 Aug 95 10:32:18 -0700 Received: by saul3.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30170; Sat, 19 Aug 95 10:32:17 -0700 X-Sender: wrs@saul3.u.washington.edu Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 10:32:17 -0700 (PDT) From: wrs To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On my PowerBook 160 screen I cannot see the menu at the bottom of the Pine page unless I change the screen size from 24 to 22. Any way to get around having to change it every time? Thanks. wrs From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 19 11:21:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18536; Sat, 19 Aug 95 11:21:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24993; Sat, 19 Aug 95 11:19:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24987; Sat, 19 Aug 95 11:19:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjsSW-00038DC; Sat, 19 Aug 95 11:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: Re: How to send a MIME mail? Date: 19 Aug 95 17:24:28 GMT Message-Id: References: <40mlcn$bui@news.iastate.edu> lark@cs.iastate.edu writes: >Can anybody tell me how to send a variety of MIME mail instead of >just "Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN", for example, can I send a "text/html" >mail, so that when others read this mail, it will automatically pop up >a mosaic or netscape browser to let others read the mail contents? Pine can't send MIME mail. The "exmh" does it perfectly. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 19 11:28:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18638; Sat, 19 Aug 95 11:28:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09612; Sat, 19 Aug 95 11:25:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09606; Sat, 19 Aug 95 11:25:35 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01470; Sat, 19 Aug 95 11:25:31 -0700 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 11:25:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Who Knows Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to send a MIME mail? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Pine can't send MIME mail. > The "exmh" does it perfectly. Excuse me? Pine has supported MIME since before exmh existed. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 19 11:47:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18938; Sat, 19 Aug 95 11:47:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09847; Sat, 19 Aug 95 11:44:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09841; Sat, 19 Aug 95 11:44:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjsor-00038DC; Sat, 19 Aug 95 11:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eeggert@nwlink.com (Eric) Subject: Building Pine 3.91 on MachTen platform. Help Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 11:08:40 -0700 Message-Id: I have been unsuccessful with building Pine. I'm attempting to build pine 3.91 on my PB165C running MachTen 2.2. Below is the error I get when attempting to build Pine -- # build bsd make args are "CC=cc" c-client: File exists imapd: File exists Making c-client library, mtest and imapd build: /home/root/Pine/pine3.91/imap: bad directory Is bsd the correct platform to use with the build command? Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 19 11:47:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18944; Sat, 19 Aug 95 11:47:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25245; Sat, 19 Aug 95 11:44:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25239; Sat, 19 Aug 95 11:44:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjsqr-00038HC; Sat, 19 Aug 95 11:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mary Beth Moore Subject: Re: [PGP] - New Version of PINE Date: 19 Aug 1995 17:42:54 GMT Message-Id: <4157qu$56c@thrush.sover.net> References: <40mfhu$duv@decaxp.harvard.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dr. Schumacher, Did you get my mail regarding the proposal? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 19 14:00:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20880; Sat, 19 Aug 95 14:00:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11303; Sat, 19 Aug 95 13:49:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11297; Sat, 19 Aug 95 13:49:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjumO-00038DC; Sat, 19 Aug 95 13:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stanley Tomshinsky Subject: Re: NNTP newsgrps Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 21:35:45 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 13 Aug 1995, Jon Sheldon wrote: > > > On Sun, 13 Aug 1995, Stanley Tomshinsky wrote: > > > Hello, I am new to Pine. I didn't figure out how to read the newsgroups > > on Pine...I have .newsrc and a NNTP setup on an Amiga, but when I open > > I can't get the newsgroups listing or anything...in fact I am reading > > newsgroups from AmigaMosaic....Stan > > I just got my setup right. Try putting an X in the block. > > [X] news-approximates-new-status > [X] news-post-without-validation > [X] news-read-in-newsrc-order > > Good luck. > > > BTW, what kind of Amiga are you on and where can I get a copy of AmigaMosaic? > > Jon > > I am running an A3000 with picassoII...you can find the new AMosaic at ftp: max.physics.sunysb.edu /pub/amiga/amosaic....there the 2.0pre... Best Wishes and thanks... stom@galactica.it ------------------------------------------------------------ Stanley Tomshinsky via Fiori Chiari 20 Milano 20121 Italia From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 19 14:35:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21376; Sat, 19 Aug 95 14:35:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11704; Sat, 19 Aug 95 14:23:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cs.iastate.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11698; Sat, 19 Aug 95 14:23:44 -0700 Received: from popeye.cs.iastate.edu (popeye.cs.iastate.edu [129.186.3.4]) by cs.iastate.edu (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA22619; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 16:23:42 -0500 Received: (lark@localhost) by popeye.cs.iastate.edu (8.6.10/8.6.9) id QAA01137; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 16:23:41 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 16:23:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Who Knows To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to send a MIME mail? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > Pine can't send MIME mail. > > The "exmh" does it perfectly. > Pine has supported MIME since before exmh existed. > May be I didn't understand it correctly, I just assumed this because nobody can answer my question, AND in the main page it says: Pine's message composer does not have integral multimedia capability...... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 19 14:36:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21431; Sat, 19 Aug 95 14:36:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26721; Sat, 19 Aug 95 14:26:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Kitten.mcs.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26715; Sat, 19 Aug 95 14:26:14 -0700 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA11041; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 16:26:04 -0500 Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Sat, 19 Aug 95 16:26 CDT Received: by mercury.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Sat, 19 Aug 95 16:26 CDT Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 16:26:01 -0500 (CDT) From: John F Harold Subject: Re: Suppressing Fcc in Unix Pine To: Paul O Bartlett Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 18 Aug 1995, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On 18 Aug 1995, Tom McGrane wrote: > > | How do you stop Unix Pine from saving a copy of every message sent into > | the Fcc folder? > | > | Help in setup/config says to use "" as the "default Fcc folder name. but > | that just causes a folder called "" to be created. > > Normally I save my outgoing mail in some folder or other, but when I > do NOT want to save some one particular message, I put the cursor on the > Fcc: line in the header and press Ctrl-K and then . On Un*x Pine > 3.91, at least, it works just fine. > > Paul > -------------------------------------------------- > Paul O. Bartlett > P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. > Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key > -------------------------------------------------- > > > That option seems to work well on version 3.89 which I am using on a dial up service. John ---------------------------------------------------------------------- John F. Harold Internet: jfharold@mcs.com N9BUX Fax: 312-922-4993 Chicago, IL ********************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 19 15:00:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21792; Sat, 19 Aug 95 15:00:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27026; Sat, 19 Aug 95 14:50:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27020; Sat, 19 Aug 95 14:50:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjvgp-00038DC; Sat, 19 Aug 95 14:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: 19 Aug 1995 21:26:23 GMT Message-Id: <415ktv$q2j@news.iastate.edu> cancel in newsgroup comp.mail.pine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 19 15:30:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22410; Sat, 19 Aug 95 15:30:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12428; Sat, 19 Aug 95 15:20:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12422; Sat, 19 Aug 95 15:20:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjwA8-00038MC; Sat, 19 Aug 95 15:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: johnbach@net (Restrict) Date: 19 Aug 1995 21:54:47 GMT Message-Id: Subject: cmsg cancel <415lum$6ma@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Control: cancel <415lum$6ma@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 19 20:25:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27770; Sat, 19 Aug 95 20:25:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00844; Sat, 19 Aug 95 20:12:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00838; Sat, 19 Aug 95 20:12:48 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06548; Sat, 19 Aug 95 20:12:44 -0700 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 20:12:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Who Knows Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to send a MIME mail? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Multimedia/wysiwig composing and MIME encoding/labelling are two independent concepts. You can have either one without the other. Using MIME encoding, Pine allows you to attach any type of file and deliver it without corruption. -teg On Sat, 19 Aug 1995, Who Knows wrote: > > > > > > Pine can't send MIME mail. > > > The "exmh" does it perfectly. > > > Pine has supported MIME since before exmh existed. > > > > May be I didn't understand it correctly, I just assumed this because nobody > can answer my question, AND in the main page it says: > Pine's message composer does not have integral multimedia capability...... > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 20 09:01:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10446; Sun, 20 Aug 95 09:01:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08549; Sun, 20 Aug 95 08:57:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08543; Sun, 20 Aug 95 08:57:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skCgj-00038DC; Sun, 20 Aug 95 08:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: netrom@find2.dbc.bib.dk (Morten Holmqvist) Subject: sleep? SLEEP?!?!?!?! Date: 20 Aug 95 15:38:54 GMT Message-Id: I've just found out why pine takes so long to startup and close down. It is not because it is waiting for mailbox-access. It is not because my machine is slow. It is not because it is cracking passwords. It is not because it is calculating mandelbrots. It is not because it ... No!! It is because it is sleep()ing! Maybe it was an idea to make a no-sleep variable. Or only display important messages (It's the reversed oneline-messages that has a min-display-time attached to it). Disabling (setting min-display-time to 0) 5 of the messages changed pine's startup+closedown time from 7 to 2 seconds. So now it is just as fast as elm. Now I just have to find out how to redesign the key-mapping.... Morten... -- -- Name: Morten Holmqvist |\ v /| Danish Email: netrom@find2.dbc.bib.dk || || Library Phone: (+45) 44 97 40 00 - 455 ||_-.-_|| Center From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 20 09:55:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11438; Sun, 20 Aug 95 09:55:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26455; Sun, 20 Aug 95 09:52:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26449; Sun, 20 Aug 95 09:52:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skDZ6-00038DC; Sun, 20 Aug 95 09:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Wealth of Info on PINE Available Date: 20 Aug 1995 16:44:28 GMT Message-Id: <417opc$fs7@news1.wolfe.net> References: Paul O Bartlett writes: >URL: http://www.best.com/~ii/internet/mail+news.html Please don't use the above URL - I've changed it to: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/internet/pine.html which is mirrored at: http://www.best.com/~ii/internet/pine.html Thanks, Nancy -- Nancy McGough Primary Web: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ Infinite Ink Mirror Web: http://www.best.com/~ii/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 20 10:15:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11706; Sun, 20 Aug 95 10:15:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09289; Sun, 20 Aug 95 10:12:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09283; Sun, 20 Aug 95 10:12:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skDr7-00038DC; Sun, 20 Aug 95 10:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Pine & Procmail Date: 20 Aug 1995 16:32:20 GMT Message-Id: <417o2k$fgh@news1.wolfe.net> References: <40nbgt$ts1@hera.cuci.nl> srb@cuci.nl (Stephen R. van den Berg) writes: >To unpack this tar file, you could use something like: > > tar xvf procmail.tar > >Once you've done that, start reading the README and INSTALL files. And after you've installed procmail you can find out lots of info about using it at my Mail Filtering and Robots page: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/internet/mailbots.html Good luck, Nancy -- Nancy McGough Primary Web: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ Infinite Ink Mirror Web: http://www.best.com/~ii/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 20 10:15:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11733; Sun, 20 Aug 95 10:15:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26726; Sun, 20 Aug 95 10:12:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26720; Sun, 20 Aug 95 10:12:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skDtm-00038HC; Sun, 20 Aug 95 10:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Filtering FAQ (Pine info) Date: 20 Aug 1995 16:40:37 GMT Message-Id: <417oi5$fmn@news1.wolfe.net> References: Jeff McLellan writes: >Following is the Filtering FAQ...which is very useful to Pine users and >relevent to this group. > >It should be posted weekly. I'll be willing to throw it up weekly unless >some subscribers to this group disagree, otherwise kill file the sucker if >you don't like it. I'll start posting it again regularly soon. I haven't posted it lately because I want to do some updates, including updating its URL, which is now: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/samples.html#fmf And also include a pointer to my Mail Filtering and Robots page, which is at: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/internet/mailbots.html -Nancy -- Nancy McGough Primary Web: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ Infinite Ink Mirror Web: http://www.best.com/~ii/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 20 14:11:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16154; Sun, 20 Aug 95 14:11:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11854; Sun, 20 Aug 95 13:57:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11848; Sun, 20 Aug 95 13:57:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skHO6-00038DC; Sun, 20 Aug 95 13:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy) Subject: Re: Pine vs Elm Date: 20 Aug 1995 21:33:34 +0100 Message-Id: <41866u$o58@bell.maths.tcd.ie> References: <40jjib$k6s@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <40l1v5$dr3@nyheter.chalmers.se> <40v3dv$mdc@wup-gate.wup.de> <41110b$gd2@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <411kdh$mfi@net.auckland.ac.nz> russell@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz (Russell Fulton) writes: >>Just to explain -- I made the original comment -- >>I'm afraid I regard nroff as obsolete, >>and don't consider documentation in this format >>to be adequate. >Why does it matter how the documentation is marked up so long as you can >easily print it? I explained that my comment was personal, and quite likely does not apply to others. In brief, I want to distribute the documents to 250 users, and I don't have a high-quality nroff/troff to PostScript driver on my system. I did in fact print out the elm and pine documents on my Linux box. I didn't think either set of documents was very good. Just my opinion. I would have preferred documentation in LaTeX or texinfo format. Just my preference. Incidentally, I received about a dozen replies, 10--2 in favour of pine, nearly always on the grounds that it was easier for beginners. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 20 18:34:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20667; Sun, 20 Aug 95 18:34:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03109; Sun, 20 Aug 95 18:28:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03103; Sun, 20 Aug 95 18:28:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skLcp-00038DC; Sun, 20 Aug 95 18:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: .addressbook -> .mailrc Message-Id: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 1995 19:21:31 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone have a script to translate a Pine .addressbook into a .mailrc format? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 21 04:19:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01270; Mon, 21 Aug 95 04:19:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20649; Mon, 21 Aug 95 04:14:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20643; Mon, 21 Aug 95 04:14:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skUkB-00038OC; Mon, 21 Aug 95 04:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Building Pine 3.91 on MachTen platform. Help Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 01:20:48 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: The correct platform for MachTen is "mct". The "bsd" port is for vanilla 4.3 BSD systems, such as on a VAX... >From that error message, however, it doesn't look like you fetched the Pine distribution correctly. What commands did you use to unpack Pine from the pine.tar.Z file? On Sat, 19 Aug 1995, Eric wrote: > I have been unsuccessful with building Pine. I'm attempting to build pine > 3.91 on my PB165C running MachTen 2.2. > > Below is the error I get when attempting to build Pine -- > > # build bsd > make args are "CC=cc" > > c-client: File exists > imapd: File exists > Making c-client library, mtest and imapd > build: /home/root/Pine/pine3.91/imap: bad directory > > > Is bsd the correct platform to use with the build command? > > Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks. > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 21 04:21:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01427; Mon, 21 Aug 95 04:21:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10816; Mon, 21 Aug 95 04:19:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10810; Mon, 21 Aug 95 04:19:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skUnS-00038QC; Mon, 21 Aug 95 04:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vjl@netcom.com (Vince LaMonica) Subject: Re: Word-wrap? Message-Id: References: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 08:28:56 GMT Hywel Phillips (hywel@ksc.au.ac.th) really typed: { On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote: { > > Does anyone know whether it is possible to change the number of { > > columns - some of my mails get messed up by other systems - { > { > Currently not possible in pine-3.91 but will supposedly be available { > in the next release. { > { > An alternative is to use the alternate editor feature and use an { > editor where you can control the number of columns. Works like a { > charm. { Thanks, any suggestions as to an editor ? `joe' is a *great* text editor that is simple like `pico', but as powerful as `vi'..I use it as the alternate editor and it works great...It's available for UNIX, but I doubt it's available for MS-DOS. -- vjl@netcom.com "Only Amiga makes it possible" Vince LaMonica A2HD/040/16F/2S/2C/540/14.4/1DD/1084S/A2320/4008/3.1OS From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 21 05:23:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03162; Mon, 21 Aug 95 05:23:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21322; Mon, 21 Aug 95 05:19:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21316; Mon, 21 Aug 95 05:19:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skVg4-00038MC; Mon, 21 Aug 95 05:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gras Regis Subject: elm aliases --> Pine .addressbook Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 13:41:21 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone have a script to translate a elm adressbook (aliases) into a pine adressbook (.adressbook) format ? Thanks. *---------------------------------------------------------------------------* * Regis Gras | Tel (33) 76 82 62 60 * * Laboratoire CEPHAG | ou (33) 76 82 64 26 * * ENSIEG, Rue de la Houille Blanche BP 46 | Fax (33) 76 82 63 84 * * 38402 Saint Martin d'Heres CEDEX, France | e-mail gras@cephag.observ-gr.fr* *---------------------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 21 05:52:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03622; Mon, 21 Aug 95 05:52:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11879; Mon, 21 Aug 95 05:49:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from AZTEC.LIB.UTK.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11873; Mon, 21 Aug 95 05:49:09 -0700 Received: by aztec.lib.utk.edu (5.x/2.8s-UTK) id AA19011; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 08:48:10 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 08:48:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Patrick To: pine-info Subject: printing from pine over phone lines Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here's a quoted message from someone having trouble. Any ideas? "I am having a consistent problem with Pine at home. Each time that I try to print messages of any length (over 2 or 3 Pine screens worth), my printout is not complete. I am using the "Y" command to print entire documents since I can no longer scroll back through the buffer highlighting the specific text that I want to print. I have tried other VersaTerm options such as saving stream, etc., but the saved text has all manner of codes at the start of lines and repeated text (Pine seems to repeat the last line or so from the previous screen at the top of the next screen)." Thanks, bob ~~~ bobpatrick@utk.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 21 06:06:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03904; Mon, 21 Aug 95 06:06:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12042; Mon, 21 Aug 95 06:03:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12036; Mon, 21 Aug 95 06:03:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skWRj-00038MC; Mon, 21 Aug 95 05:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tim Simpson Subject: Re: Building Pine 3.91 on an ICL DRS6000 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 10:35:44 GMT Message-Id: <704137963wnr@cddc.demon.co.uk> References: <602322167wnr@cddc.demon.co.uk> Thanks to all who replied. Solution was to add -Dconst= to the definition of the CFLAGS line it then compiles easily -- best wishes Tim _______________________________________________________________________ Tim Simpson Dundee City Council Scotland Email tim@cddc.demon.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1382 434164 http://metro.turnpike.net/tim/index.html All views expressed are my own not my employers From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 21 08:08:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06403; Mon, 21 Aug 95 08:08:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13773; Mon, 21 Aug 95 08:00:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13765; Mon, 21 Aug 95 08:00:10 -0700 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id JAA09298 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 09:00:04 -0600 Received: from gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (maldridg@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.125.12]) by gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA131932 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 09:00:07 -0600 Received: by gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9) id JAA54477; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 09:00:06 -0600 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 08:59:41 -0600 (MDT) From: Lea Andrellan X-Sender: maldridg@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: printing from pine over phone lines In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 21 Aug 1995, Bob Patrick wrote: > Here's a quoted message from someone having trouble. Any ideas? > > "I am having a consistent problem with Pine at home. Each time that I try > to print messages of any length (over 2 or 3 Pine screens worth), my > printout is not complete. I am using the "Y" command to print entire > documents since I can no longer scroll back through the buffer > highlighting the specific text that I want to print. I have tried other > VersaTerm options such as saving stream, etc., but the saved text has all > manner of codes at the start of lines and repeated text (Pine seems to > repeat the last line or so from the previous screen at the top of the next > screen)." The following is from the Pine 3.91 Help pages, and it's helped a few of our users experiencing similar problems to Bob's: --- start insert ------ CONTROL KEYS NOT USED BY PINE: Most commands in Pine are single letters, with --we hope-- some mnemonic value, but in places where Pine is expecting text input, e.g. in the composer or at prompts for file/folder names, control keys must be used for editing and navigation functions. Pine has used nearly all the control keys available. There are, however, certain control keys that are reserved by other programs or for technical reasons. Pine does not use any of these keys: Ctrl-S Used by Unix as "stop output" Ctrl-Q Used by Unix as "resume output" Ctrl-] Often used by Telnet as escape key Ctrl-\ Often used by Unix as "Abort" ESC Conflicts with sequences used for arrow keys Note: by default, Pine treats Ctrl-S or Ctrl-Q (sometimes known as XOFF and XON), as normal characters, even though Pine does not use them. However, the printer, modem, or communication software you are using may be configured for "software flow control" which means that XON/XOFF must be treated as special characters by the operating system. If you see messages such as "^X not defined for this screen", or if messages printed via the "attached-to-ansi" option are missing pieces, then your system is probably using software flow control. In this case you will need to set the "preserve-start-stop-characters" feature. If you *do* set this feature, be advised that if you accidentally hit a Ctrl-S, Pine will mysteriously freeze up with no warning. In this case, try typing a Ctrl-Q and see if that puts things right. ----- end insert ----- Lea ---------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; CWIS WWW/gopher admin; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) . (D)inner not ready: (A)bort (R)etry (P)izza ---------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 21 08:33:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07709; Mon, 21 Aug 95 08:33:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24041; Mon, 21 Aug 95 08:29:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24035; Mon, 21 Aug 95 08:29:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skYgv-00038MC; Mon, 21 Aug 95 08:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmbill@fairfax2.laser.net () Subject: imap and news Date: 21 Aug 1995 14:02:44 GMT Message-Id: <41a3m4$j4m@news.laser.net> How do I set up pine to recieve news from a remote server? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 21 09:27:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10660; Mon, 21 Aug 95 09:27:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25511; Mon, 21 Aug 95 09:20:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25505; Mon, 21 Aug 95 09:20:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skZUn-00038SC; Mon, 21 Aug 95 09:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: twells@netcom.com (Tabor J. Wells) Subject: Bug in pine v3.91? (included output -- long) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 15:21:21 GMT On a system I help admin on, one of our users received the following message: ---BEGIN INCLUDED OUTPUT--- Continue postponed composition (answering "No" won't erase it)? Yes Y [Yes] ^C Cancel N No Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". Exiting pine. Attempting to save debug file to /home/bstearns/.pine-crash ---END INCLUDED OUTPUT--- I'll include the .pine-crash file below, but I'm wondering if anyone can tell me what happened and if it's a setup problem on my end, what I should do to fix it. TIA Tabor twells@netcom.com ---BEGIN .pine-crash--- Debug output of the Pine program (at debug level 2). Version 3.91 Fri Aug 18 08:02:48 1995 reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf" Open failed: No such file or directory reading_pinerc "/home/bstearns/.pinerc" Read 8803 characters: reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed" Open failed: No such file or directory ======= Current_val options set ======= inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : mail/[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 95.8 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/home/bstearns/.pinerc) ======= folder-collections : mail/[] last-time-prune-ques : 95.8 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd no-enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface no-signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys Userid: bstearns Fullname: "Barry T. Stearns" User domain name being used "" Local Domain name being used "nesl.edu" Host name being used "lib.nesl.edu" Mail Domain name being used (by c-client too)"lib.nesl.edu" Context mail/[] type: LOCAL new win size -----<24 87>------ Terminal type: vt100 Context mail/[] type: LOCAL About to open folder "INBOX" inbox: "INBOX" Opened folder "/var/spool/mail/bstearns" with 193 messages Sorting by Arrival IMAP 8:2 8/18 mm_log babble: Find of mailbox outside context: /home/bstearns/.pine-interrupted-mail - mailcap_free - ---- MAIN_MENU_SCREEN ---- ---- MAIL INDEX ---- ---- INDEX MANAGER ---- ----- MAIL VIEW ----- done. done. IMAP 8:5 8/18 mm_log ERROR: Can't open mailbox mail/TCYH: no such mailbox IMAP mm_notify NIL : /var/spool/mail/bstearns : [TRYCREATE] Must create mailbox before copy Want_to read: y (121) done. done. done. done. IMAP 8:7 8/18 mm_log ERROR: Can't open mailbox mail/tcyh: no such mailbox IMAP mm_notify NIL : /var/spool/mail/bstearns : [TRYCREATE] Must create mailbox before copy Want_to read: n (110) FAILED save of msg-id <<9508161739.AA04149@us4rmc.pko.dec.com>> done. done. done. - mc_init - mailcap: process_file: /home/bstearns/.mailcap mailcap: process_file: /etc/mailcap done. done. done. done. done. IMAP 8:12 8/18 mm_log babble: Check completed done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. IMAP 8:21 8/18 mm_log babble: Check completed done. done. done. done. done. Want_to read: n (110) Want_to read: n (110) - build_address - -- init_addrbooks(Closed, 0, 0, 1) -- - adrbk_open(.addressbook) - Address book .addressbook (.addressbook) opened with 6 items - adrbk_lookup_by_addr(0004543648@mcimail.com) (in /home/bstearns/.addressbook) - === send called === ---- COMPOSER ---- new win size -----<24 87>------ === calling sendmail === done. Send SUCCESSFUL. To: 0004543648@mcimail.com Subject: Re: Student Budget for printing/usage Message ID: done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. IMAP 8:29 8/18 mm_log babble: Check completed done. done. done. done. ---- MAIL INDEX ---- ---- INDEX MANAGER ---- ----- MAIL VIEW ----- done. ---- MAIL INDEX ---- ---- INDEX MANAGER ---- IMAP 8:32 8/18 mm_log parse: Junk at end of address: @reach.com IMAP 8:32 8/18 mm_log parse: Junk at end of address: @reach.com (Michael Beaird -- The Michie Company - Charlottesville) ----- MAIL VIEW ----- done. - mailcap_free - ---- COMPOSE SCREEN (not in pico yet) ---- IMAP 8:34 8/18 mm_log babble: Find of mailbox outside context: /home/bstearns/.pine-interrupted-mail Want_to read: n (110) === send called === ---- COMPOSER ---- - build_address - - adrbk_lookup_by_addr(llne-request@hulaw1.harvard.edu) (in /home/bstearns/.addressbook) - - build_address - new win size -----<24 87>------ ----- MAIL VIEW ----- done. IMAP 8:36 8/18 mm_log babble: Check completed done. done. - mailcap_free - ---- COMPOSE SCREEN (not in pico yet) ---- IMAP 8:37 8/18 mm_log babble: Find of mailbox outside context: /home/bstearns/.pine-interrupted-mail Want_to read: y (121) about to end_tty_driver Pine Panic: Received abort signal save_debug_on_crash: Version 3.91: debug level 2 : Fri Aug 18 08:37:37 1995 Attempting to save debug file to /home/bstearns/.pine-crash ---END .pine-crash--- -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Tabor J. Wells twells@netcom.com|"All those moments will be lost in time Asst Syst. Specialist twells@nesl.edu| like tears in rain. Time to die." #include | -from the movie Blade Runner _____________________________________|________________________________________ Opinions expressed in the above message are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer, The New England School of Law From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 21 09:54:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11861; Mon, 21 Aug 95 09:54:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16994; Mon, 21 Aug 95 09:51:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16988; Mon, 21 Aug 95 09:51:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skZuz-00038OC; Mon, 21 Aug 95 09:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lcotta@systemy.it (Luca Cotta Ramusino) Subject: Is there a version of pine for Windows? Date: Sun, 20 Aug 1995 20:38:28 GMT Message-Id: <4186o6$b5k@hyppy.systemy.it> Hi, I'm using Eudora 1.4.4 at the moment, but since I am writing a book on Internet tools, I would like to give a good picture of what's available. Do you know whether anyone has ported pine to either Windows, NT or Windows 95? I know about elm, but the Windows version is crufty (sorry, developers, but it is). Thanks for your help. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 21 11:47:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17414; Mon, 21 Aug 95 11:47:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28766; Mon, 21 Aug 95 11:44:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28760; Mon, 21 Aug 95 11:44:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skbnT-00038MC; Mon, 21 Aug 95 11:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: alex.schuilenburg@ukonline.co.uk Subject: POP3 Support Date: 21 Aug 1995 12:32:25 GMT Message-Id: <419ucp$92p@bell.ukonline.co.uk> Does anyone know if there are any plans to put POP3 support into pine? Alex From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 21 11:47:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17446; Mon, 21 Aug 95 11:47:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19706; Mon, 21 Aug 95 11:42:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19700; Mon, 21 Aug 95 11:42:55 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29510; Mon, 21 Aug 95 11:42:49 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 11:42:46 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Brian Safford Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Common addressbook between PC-Pine and Unix Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine does not currently support remote addressbooks, unless you have some external file sharing mechanism, e.g. NFS, SMB... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 19 Aug 1995, Brian Safford wrote: > Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 13:36:33 GMT > From: Brian Safford > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Common addressbook between PC-Pine and Unix Pine > > Is there a way to share a personal address book between PC-Pine and Unix? I > get file permission errors on the Unix file when I configure PC-Pine ( > {mailhost}addrbook ) > > Thanks in advance, > Brian Safford > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Brian H. Safford Senior Systems Engineer Electronic Data Systems | > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Cadillac World Headquarters GM Technical Center Warren, MI 48090 | > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 21 11:54:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17765; Mon, 21 Aug 95 11:54:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19884; Mon, 21 Aug 95 11:49:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19878; Mon, 21 Aug 95 11:49:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skbuG-00038OC; Mon, 21 Aug 95 11:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barto@valis.worldgate.edmonton.ab.ca (Bart Oleksy) Subject: Re: sco xenix Date: 21 Aug 1995 11:02:40 -0600 Message-Id: <41ae7g$j36@valis.worldgate.edmonton.ab.ca> References: <40tgns$27ap@news-s02.ny.us.ibm.net> cfday@ibm.net writes: >Does anyone in this newsgroup know where I can get Pine/Pico compiled >for SCO Xenix 2.3.3 or earlier. Would appreciate a post or e-mail. > Thanks > Charlie Day I had a similar question about Samba on SCO, and was directed to ftp.celestial.com (/pub/sco-ports/xenix, I think). Have a look there for compiled binaries of various programs. I would think that if they don't have it, it doesn't exist! Well, almost...anyway, good luck. Bart, Edmonton AB Canada barto@nait.ab.ca -- barto@worldgate.edmonton.ab.ca or barto@nait.ab.ca -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WorldGate Internet Access Telnet, FTP, IRC, WWW, News, Email (403)444-7685 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 21 12:08:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18408; Mon, 21 Aug 95 12:08:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20219; Mon, 21 Aug 95 12:04:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20213; Mon, 21 Aug 95 12:04:49 -0700 Received: by math.uwaterloo.ca id <77135-3>; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 15:04:26 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 15:04:22 -0400 From: Jeff Shepherd To: Stanley Tomshinsky Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Various Questions In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 19 Aug 1995, Stanley Tomshinsky wrote: > ** I sent the following, but in my sent-mail there was only one > message, how, when, or if the others in Cc: are sent? > > From stom@galactica.it Fri Aug 18 22:39:30 1995 > Status: O > X-Status: > Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 22:39:04 +0000 () > From: Stanley Tomshinsky > X-Sender: stom@localhost > To: pgb2@ra.msstate.edu > cc: sb@theory.lcs.mit.edu, rst@ai.mit.edu, l.turin@ucl.ac.uk, > bpassero@rle.mit.edu, webmaster@mit.edu, reading-room@lcs.mit.edu > Subject: Marconi Centennial > Message-ID: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE > > > ** And while I am at it can anyone tell me if Pine.AMI.3.91 > has the experimental POP driver. Galactica isn't running IMAP > "yet" and before I get POP service, which is extra; I want to > know how I can handle incoming mail. > > ** I do have popd (pop3) installed and a program called AmiPOP which > connects to netserver and could download mail to UUMail:stom, which > I designated as INBOX. Will Pine recognize this as mail or give me > an INBOX (Read Only), which wouldn't be the end of the world because There is no need for a pop3 daemon if all you are doing is connecting to a mail server to read mail. The daemon is used when other people connect to your computer to fetch their mail. Pine does it own negociation of the POP protocol. Amiga Pine does cooperate well with AmiPOP. This is one of the new features I implemented. > I could respond anyway...only the subject becomes INBOX etc...I did > set incoming-folders: {192.106.152.1/pop3}inbox...and hope if I get > an affermative to the "pop driver" question everything will be simp- > lified. > ** How can I set the GMT instead of "+0000 ()"? You need to set the TZ variable. Eg for EDT (4 hours before GMT) you would type "setenv TZ EDT-4" (The Amiga seems to have this backwards). Other timezones are similar. > For the timebeing I get my mail QWKed to me. > > It is really a pleasure to work with Pine and I hope to use it > fully in the future.............Stan > [Debug deleted] jsshephe@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca http://www.undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca/~jsshephe The world is coming to an end! Repent and return those library books. Finger me for my PGP public key. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 21 13:19:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21797; Mon, 21 Aug 95 13:19:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00975; Mon, 21 Aug 95 13:14:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00969; Mon, 21 Aug 95 13:14:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skdBt-00038OC; Mon, 21 Aug 95 13:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Scott Stanley Subject: Disabeling MIME Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 13:05:42 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just moved up to pine 3.91 from a much older version (pre MIME capabilities) and I am having some problems with attaching files. Pine is MIMEing all attached files whether they are binary or plain text. I don't know whether it is supposed to do this or not. It makes sense on binary files, but not on plain text. My problem is that most of the people I know do not use pine. So, I can not attach any text files to my mail since pine MIMEs them. Is there any way to shut off the MIME abilities of pine? I guess my other option is convince everyone else to use pine, but they seem to be set in their ways... Scott Stanley sstanley@ucsd.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 21 13:47:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22895; Mon, 21 Aug 95 13:47:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22723; Mon, 21 Aug 95 13:44:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22717; Mon, 21 Aug 95 13:44:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skdda-00038MC; Mon, 21 Aug 95 13:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Randy Jay Yarger Subject: Pine 3.91 inserts "=20" at end of line? Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 16:04:07 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I'm using Pine 3.91 on a black NeXT 3.2 and I've noticed that when mail send from my machine is read on certain mailers (generic 'mail', mail programs on IBM mainframes and VAX machines) sometimes the characters =20 appear at the end of lines. This only happens sometimes and I've not found a pattern yet. I assume this is some type of control code or something. Has anyone else seen this, and is there a way to make it stop? Thanks, Randy Jay Yarger | Department of Physics, Michigan State University randy@hs1.hst.msu.edu | http://hs1.hst.msu.edu/randy/randy.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 21 14:50:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26418; Mon, 21 Aug 95 14:50:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03028; Mon, 21 Aug 95 14:44:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03022; Mon, 21 Aug 95 14:44:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skeZr-00038MC; Mon, 21 Aug 95 14:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "H. Marc Kneppers" Subject: Re: Pine and uudecode Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 15:25:50 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 18 Aug 1995, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Fri, 18 Aug 1995, J. Kelly Cunningham wrote: > > On Fri, 18 Aug 1995, Gras Regis wrote: > > | > > | Is there any way to visualize a uuencoded message with pine ? > > | Thanks for any help. > > I'm not sure what you mean, but send blank email to > I believe he is asking if pine can decode a uuencoded file. > > The answer is , yes. Simply pipe "|" the message to uudecode. > Make sure the | command is enabled in the configuration > > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce You can also use wincode if you are using PC-Pine. It hooks right into pine and will encode and decode as well as zip. It will also call up the viewer on the fly (i.e. Word Perfect, Lotus, whatever) ftp site is: www.biz-op.com Marc - Marc Kneppers knepperm@cuug.ab.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 21 15:38:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28890; Mon, 21 Aug 95 15:38:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25447; Mon, 21 Aug 95 15:32:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from news.pacifier.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25441; Mon, 21 Aug 95 15:32:26 -0700 Received: from bart by news.pacifier.com with uucp for cac.washington.edu!pine-info (Linux Smail3.1.29.1 #30) id m0skfOL-0009BuC; Mon, 21 Aug 95 15:32 PDT Received: from bart.wfsg.com by bart.wfsg.com id aa26453; 21 Aug 95 15:19 PDT Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 15:19:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Hansen Reply-To: dave@wfsg.com To: Pine Info List Subject: Eudora's creations Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks to those who helped me with my "pine stopped sending mail" problem. The system's default smtp server was no longer and I had to specify a server in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf. Everyone is happy now. I have alwasy been bugged by the fact that pine displays mail created by Eudora as being dated "xxx -1". Is there a reason for this? I've looked at the headers (rich headers on) and don't see a date field. Is this Eudora's fault? Does anyone know how to make Eudora send a date header? Looking for clues... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dave "I just do phones and computers" Hansen dave@wfsg.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 21 15:54:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29779; Mon, 21 Aug 95 15:54:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25835; Mon, 21 Aug 95 15:49:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25829; Mon, 21 Aug 95 15:49:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skfbc-00038MC; Mon, 21 Aug 95 15:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hewitt@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (dawn hewitt) Subject: Sorting by "arrival" is not intuitive Date: 21 Aug 1995 22:31:28 GMT Message-Id: <41b1g0$6o6@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> I work at the UCS Support Center at Indiana University. A user wishes to sort his messages by "arrival" date/time, and not "date" (i.e., date/time sent). Pine's online help says that "arrival" sorts by the date the message arrived in one's mailbox. What that seems to mean is that it sorts based on the time a message is moved into a specific folder. Example: Set sort order to "arrival". Move a rather old message into a folder which contains newer messages. The old message will appear at the bottom of the list, as though it arrived recently. In fact, it *did* arrive recently into that folder. Is it possible to sort based on the date/time that a message arrived on one's account, regardless of which folder the message is moved to? Are there others out there frustrated (and misled) by this behavior? Thanks. --dawn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 21 16:25:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01119; Mon, 21 Aug 95 16:25:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05226; Mon, 21 Aug 95 16:19:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05220; Mon, 21 Aug 95 16:19:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skg3s-00038MC; Mon, 21 Aug 95 16:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Pine vs Elm Date: 21 Aug 1995 22:56:26 GMT Message-Id: <41b2uq$job@news1.wolfe.net> References: <40jjib$k6s@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <40l1v5$dr3@nyheter.chalmers.se> <40v3dv$mdc@wup-gate.wup.de> <41110b$gd2@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <411kdh$mfi@net.auckland.ac.nz> <41866u$o58@bell.maths.tcd.ie> tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy) writes: >Incidentally, I received about a dozen replies, >10--2 in favour of pine, >nearly always on the grounds that it was easier for beginners. Add my vote for Pine, but for the reason that it's more powerful than Elm. I used Elm for years but as soon as Pine 3.91 was released I jumped ship (tree) for Pine! Nancy -- Nancy McGough Primary Web: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ Infinite Ink Mirror Web: http://www.best.com/~ii/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 21 16:36:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01729; Mon, 21 Aug 95 16:36:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05513; Mon, 21 Aug 95 16:32:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from unicorn.it.wsu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05507; Mon, 21 Aug 95 16:32:33 -0700 Received: by unicorn.it.wsu.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/11Jan95-0459PM) id AA30909; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 16:32:33 -0700 From: WhatEverYouWantToBe Message-Id: <9508212332.AA30909@unicorn.it.wsu.edu> Subject: pine to ISP mail server To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 16:32:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 296 Hi, Can someone tell me how to set up Pine such that I can read and send mail through my Internet service provider (ISP) SMTP mail server ?? I can change the INBOX path, but how do i exchange my user ID and password to my ISP mail server ? I want to use it from my UNIX host, SUNOS.... Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 21 18:48:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06342; Mon, 21 Aug 95 18:48:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29657; Mon, 21 Aug 95 18:43:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from panix2.panix.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29651; Mon, 21 Aug 95 18:43:08 -0700 Received: (from wlinden@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.6.12/8.6.12+PanixU1.1) id VAA08964; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 21:22:28 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 21:22:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Will Linden To: Bob Patrick Cc: pine-info Subject: Re: printing from pine over phone lines In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have similar problems sometimes...it seems to be connected with the length of the file, and the printer having consequent problems keeping up with the "download". Can your friend handle the matter by using the E(xport) function to create a separate file, and downloading that for later printing? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 21 19:23:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07153; Mon, 21 Aug 95 19:23:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00342; Mon, 21 Aug 95 19:20:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00336; Mon, 21 Aug 95 19:20:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skiua-00038MC; Mon, 21 Aug 95 19:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andreas@wup.de (Andreas Klemm) Subject: Re: Pine vs Elm Date: 21 Aug 1995 14:28:54 GMT Message-Id: <41a576$4a3@wup-gate.wup.de> References: <40jjib$k6s@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <40l1v5$dr3@nyheter.chalmers.se> <40v3dv$mdc@wup-gate.wup.de> <41110b$gd2@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <411kdh$mfi@net.auckland.ac.nz> Russell Fulton (russell@ccu1.auckland.ac.nz) wrote: : tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy) writes: : >andreas@wup.de (Andreas Klemm) writes: : >>: Neither seems to come with very good documentation. : >>Speaking for elm I can say, that it comes with a nice and : >>complete documentation... All you need is nroff/groff to : >>format the manuals... : >Just to explain -- I made the original comment -- : >I'm afraid I regard nroff as obsolete, : >and don't consider documentation in this format : >to be adequate. : Why does it matter how the documentation is marked up so long as you can : easily print it? Personally I agree that *roff is an abomination but no : long as no one asks me to use it to write my documentations I don't care : if others choose to. It does have the unparalled advantage that it is : available on most UNIX systems. : Complaining about Elm's documentaion because it is marked up using *roff : is a bit like saying that the wine is no good because the bottle is : covered with dust and cobwebs. nroff might be relatively old, but it's _source_... I think I don't have to explain the advantages, to have documentation source available .... Using groff -Tps you can easily produce Postscript output if you need. But as Russel already stated out, you _can_ print the docu and read it after that. The printed document is nicely formatted, that counts ! -- andreas@wup.de /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ - Support Unix - From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 21 19:48:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07576; Mon, 21 Aug 95 19:48:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08809; Mon, 21 Aug 95 19:45:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08803; Mon, 21 Aug 95 19:45:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skjHZ-00038MC; Mon, 21 Aug 95 19:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: s11976@net2.hkbu.edu.hk (Wong Pui Ming) Subject: signature on top when reply Date: 22 Aug 1995 02:07:37 GMT Message-Id: <41be59$13k0@ctsc.hkbc.hk> We are running pine under DEC OSF/1. When replying to a mail (and choose include original message), pine will put my signature on top of the original message. This is a nuisance as the signature should be at the bottom. How can I make pine do otherwise ___ ___ L_|_ _|_J ( -O> Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14664; Tue, 22 Aug 95 01:19:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05356; Tue, 22 Aug 95 01:15:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05350; Tue, 22 Aug 95 01:15:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skoTt-00038QC; Tue, 22 Aug 95 01:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Wil Rodriguez Subject: How to disable users' ability to use config Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 23:54:38 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I read the FAQ, but I couldn't figure out how to set pine.conf.fixed so that users could not make _any_ alterations via the setup|config options. Also, since most users will be logging in remotely, I would like to totally disable printing. Is that possible through the fixed config file? Thanks! wil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 04:55:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22082; Tue, 22 Aug 95 04:55:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15385; Tue, 22 Aug 95 04:46:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15379; Tue, 22 Aug 95 04:46:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skrjm-00038OC; Tue, 22 Aug 95 04:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: walton@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com (Tim Walton) Subject: Including mutiple mails during compose... Date: 22 Aug 1995 10:37:16 GMT Message-Id: <41cc0s$53v@alpha.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com> Dear all, I've read the help , but i cant see a straightforward way of including several mail files within a compose session: By this i mean: how can i include the text of mails i have received , in a message i am composing , but without using the cut/paste buffer. Its a common feature in mny other mail tools , but not pine it seems. Any pointers appreciated, Regards,Tim. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 07:43:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25046; Tue, 22 Aug 95 07:43:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17376; Tue, 22 Aug 95 07:40:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17364; Tue, 22 Aug 95 07:40:09 -0700 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0skuWl-000sCJC; Tue, 22 Aug 95 16:42 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Tue, 22 Aug 95 16:39 MESZ Received: from paddington (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paddington (8.7.Beta.11/8.7.Beta.11) with SMTP id QAA04565; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 16:39:50 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Joswig Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 16:39:49 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: Wil Rodriguez Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to disable users' ability to use config In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Wil, have tou tried to put the print commands (printer and personal-print-command) in there, pointing to any shellscript that does not print but notify the user that printing is disabled? Ciao, Michael Joswig On Mon, 21 Aug 1995, Wil Rodriguez wrote: > > I read the FAQ, but I couldn't figure out how to set pine.conf.fixed so > that users could not make _any_ alterations via the setup|config options. > > Also, since most users will be logging in remotely, I would like to > totally disable printing. Is that possible through the fixed config file? > > Thanks! > > wil > > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE Tel. (040) 651 56 25 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 08:17:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26392; Tue, 22 Aug 95 08:17:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17858; Tue, 22 Aug 95 08:10:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from AZTEC.LIB.UTK.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17852; Tue, 22 Aug 95 08:10:22 -0700 Received: by aztec.lib.utk.edu (5.x/2.8s-UTK) id AA08837; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 11:09:19 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 11:09:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Patrick To: Will Linden Cc: pine-info Subject: Re: printing from pine over phone lines In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 21 Aug 1995, Will Linden wrote: > I have similar problems sometimes...it seems to be connected with the > length of the file, and the printer having consequent problems keeping up > with the "download". > Can your friend handle the matter by using the E(xport) function to > create a separate file, and downloading that for later printing? Sure, that's an option. I was hoping there would be a setting somewhere that would smooth the receipt of the information pine is sending (although admittedly I haven't tried *everything*). Versaterm generally has no problem printing from pine otherwise, so I suppose the problem might be related to the phone line transmission somehow. Although this problem didn't occur when Versaterm was used over the same phone lines to print from allin1 on a VAX... -bob ~~~ bobpatrick@utk.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 08:46:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27697; Tue, 22 Aug 95 08:46:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18413; Tue, 22 Aug 95 08:39:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cyborg.stc.housing.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18407; Tue, 22 Aug 95 08:39:55 -0700 Received: (from wilrod@localhost) by cyborg.stc.housing.washington.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA01927; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 08:38:01 GMT Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 08:38:01 +0000 ( ) From: Wil Rodriguez To: Michael Joswig Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to disable users' ability to use config In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 22 Aug 1995, Michael Joswig wrote: > Hi Wil, > > have tou tried to put the print commands (printer and personal-print-command) in there, > pointing to any shellscript that does not print but notify the user that printing is disabled? > > Ciao, > Michael Joswig > > > > On Mon, 21 Aug 1995, Wil Rodriguez wrote: > > > > > Also, since most users will be logging in remotely, I would like to > > totally disable printing. Is that possible through the fixed config file? > > > > Thanks! > > > > wil I'm thinking of gettint the source and recompiling Pine with the print (and other options) totally disabled. Wil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 09:22:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29556; Tue, 22 Aug 95 09:22:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13190; Tue, 22 Aug 95 09:14:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from unicorn.it.wsu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13182; Tue, 22 Aug 95 09:14:08 -0700 Received: by unicorn.it.wsu.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/11Jan95-0459PM) id AA00093; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 09:14:07 -0700 From: WhatEverYouWantToBe Message-Id: <9508221614.AA00093@unicorn.it.wsu.edu> Subject: Pine to SMTP server of ISP To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 09:14:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 242 Hi all, Can someone tell me how to connect pine to a Internet service provider's SMTP mail server ? There is a POP account in there. I know how to change the INBOX but how can I exchange my USR ID and password to the mail server? Thanks, From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 09:29:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29930; Tue, 22 Aug 95 09:29:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19489; Tue, 22 Aug 95 09:24:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19483; Tue, 22 Aug 95 09:24:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skvze-00038OC; Tue, 22 Aug 95 09:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Including mutiple mails during compose... Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 11:58:59 -0400 Message-Id: References: <41cc0s$53v@alpha.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <41cc0s$53v@alpha.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com> On 22 Aug 1995, Tim Walton wrote (excerpted): | By this i mean: how can i include the text of mails i have received , in a message | i am composing , but without using the cut/paste buffer. | Its a common feature in mny other mail tools , but not pine it seems. To the best of my knowledge, no current version of Pine allows you to do what you want WITHOUT using export/readfile. Personally, I think this is a design shortcoming of an otherwise fine product. Export/readfile can simply be a pain, but there is currently no way around it, so far as I know. (Pine Development Team, are you listening?) Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 09:56:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01163; Tue, 22 Aug 95 09:56:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14096; Tue, 22 Aug 95 09:53:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14088; Tue, 22 Aug 95 09:53:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skwQw-00038MC; Tue, 22 Aug 95 09:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kurt@shivasys.com (Kurt) Subject: Pine for Local news only Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 16:33:09 GMT Message-Id: <41d07p$701@news.paonline.com> Do I need NNTP to use Pine for local-only newsgroup reading & posting? Does anyone have some advice about using Pine in this way? We don't need USENET or any outside news source, in fact, our machine is not connected to any network. Kurt Risser Snider Bolt & Screw, Inc. Louisville, KY From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 10:36:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02505; Tue, 22 Aug 95 10:36:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20831; Tue, 22 Aug 95 10:32:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from news.pacifier.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20825; Tue, 22 Aug 95 10:32:52 -0700 Received: from bart by news.pacifier.com with uucp for cac.washington.edu!pine-info (Linux Smail3.1.29.1 #30) id m0skxC3-0009BbC; Tue, 22 Aug 95 10:32 PDT Received: from bart.wfsg.com by bart.wfsg.com id aa28230; 22 Aug 95 10:26 PDT Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 10:26:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Hansen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: sleep? SLEEP?!?!?!?! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I tried to implement this "min-display-time" but cannot see any difference. Is there a certain place in .pinerc that this line should be inserted? > > Maybe it was an idea to make a no-sleep variable. > Or only display important messages (It's the reversed oneline-messages > that has a min-display-time attached to it). > Disabling (setting min-display-time to 0) 5 of the messages changed > pine's startup+closedown time from 7 to 2 seconds. So now it is just > as fast as elm. > > Now I just have to find out how to redesign the key-mapping.... > > Morten... > -- > -- > Name: Morten Holmqvist |\ v /| Danish > Email: netrom@find2.dbc.bib.dk || || Library > Phone: (+45) 44 97 40 00 - 455 ||_-.-_|| Center ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dave "I just do phones and computers" Hansen dave@wfsg.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 10:49:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03200; Tue, 22 Aug 95 10:49:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15314; Tue, 22 Aug 95 10:47:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from news.pacifier.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15308; Tue, 22 Aug 95 10:47:37 -0700 Received: from bart by news.pacifier.com with uucp for cac.washington.edu!pine-info (Linux Smail3.1.29.1 #30) id m0skxQK-0009BeC; Tue, 22 Aug 95 10:47 PDT Received: from bart.wfsg.com by bart.wfsg.com id aa29463; 22 Aug 95 10:39 PDT Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 10:39:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Hansen To: Pine Info List Subject: New mail Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any keycommand (other than expunge) that will force pine to go look for new mail in the INBOX. I know of new mail arriving (message at top of terminal) before pine figures it out. If I go to the inbox and eXpunge deleted messages, it will re-read INBOX. But I also have to read that there is nothing to expunge. Not too bad, but I'd rather discover a "re-read INBOX" command key. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dave "I just do phones and computers" Hansen dave@wfsg.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 11:00:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03554; Tue, 22 Aug 95 11:00:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21367; Tue, 22 Aug 95 10:56:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21361; Tue, 22 Aug 95 10:56:18 -0700 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0skxad-000sC5C; Tue, 22 Aug 95 19:58 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Tue, 22 Aug 95 19:56 MESZ Received: from paddington (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paddington (8.7.Beta.11/8.7.Beta.11) with SMTP id TAA05201; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 19:56:11 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Joswig Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 19:56:06 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: Dave Hansen Cc: Pine Info List Subject: Re: New mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dave, if you move your cursor PAST the last mail PINE will look for new mails. (There is another trick which I've forgotten) Ciao, Michael J. On Tue, 22 Aug 1995, Dave Hansen wrote: > Is there any keycommand (other than expunge) that will force pine to go > look for new mail in the INBOX. I know of new mail arriving (message at > top of terminal) before pine figures it out. If I go to the inbox and > eXpunge deleted messages, it will re-read INBOX. But I also have to read > that there is nothing to expunge. Not too bad, but I'd rather discover a > "re-read INBOX" command key. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Dave "I just do phones and computers" Hansen > dave@wfsg.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE Tel. (040) 651 56 25 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 11:58:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05777; Tue, 22 Aug 95 11:58:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22436; Tue, 22 Aug 95 11:53:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22430; Tue, 22 Aug 95 11:53:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skyMA-00038MC; Tue, 22 Aug 95 11:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dlegate@rsa.csuhayward.edu (Dan LeGate) Subject: BINHEX decoding??? Date: 22 Aug 1995 18:36:37 GMT Message-Id: <41d83l$d35@nic-nac.CSU.net> Those of you who use a BinHex decoder for unix, what decoder are you using? Are there different kinds? If there are different BinHex formats, do they handle all those formats? I assume once you install your decoder, in a mailer like pine, you simply (V)iew the attachment then (|)Pipe it to the decoder. Is that right? Thanks for any help or information you can provide. Dan LeGate From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 12:20:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06529; Tue, 22 Aug 95 12:20:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17273; Tue, 22 Aug 95 12:15:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha.dickinson.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17266; Tue, 22 Aug 95 12:15:45 -0700 Received: by alpha.dickinson.edu; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/09May95-0313PM) id AA15854; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 15:15:44 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 15:15:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Newcomer To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Passthru printing Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We're experiencing problems with printing to an attached printer. We use a DEC Alpha (Digital Unix v3.2a) and Pine 3.91. It only happens on connections through our terminal servers (which have done this type of thing for years and years) and the message will occasionally just quit printing after a page or so. Has anyone else on an Alpha run into this type of situation? Please respond to me directly as I'm not yet a member of the list. Thanks in advance. ================================================================================ Don Newcomer Dickinson College newcomer@dickinson.edu P.O. Box 1773 newcomer@dickinsn.bitnet Carlisle, PA 17013 "If God is your co-pilot, switch seats!" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 12:27:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06822; Tue, 22 Aug 95 12:27:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17503; Tue, 22 Aug 95 12:23:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dmog10.bell.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17497; Tue, 22 Aug 95 12:23:50 -0700 Received: from dmoc61.on.bell.ca by dmog10.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA06696; Tue, 22 Aug 95 15:23:19 -0400 Received: from huhc06.ON.Bell.Ca by dmoc61.on.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA13960; Tue, 22 Aug 95 15:23:15 -0400 Received: by huhc06 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18053; Tue, 22 Aug 95 15:23:14 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 15:23:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Violette" Reply-To: jviolett@on.bell.ca To: Michael Joswig Cc: Dave Hansen , Pine Info List Subject: Re: New mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: Bell Canada Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 22 Aug 1995, Michael Joswig wrote: > Dave, > > if you move your cursor PAST the last mail PINE will look for new mails. (There is another > trick which I've forgotten) Control L (^L) will force a check. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 12:55:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07985; Tue, 22 Aug 95 12:55:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18161; Tue, 22 Aug 95 12:52:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from condor.CC.UMontreal.CA by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18155; Tue, 22 Aug 95 12:52:20 -0700 Received: from mars.IRCM.UMontreal.CA (mars.IRCM.UMontreal.CA [132.204.106.34]) by condor.CC.UMontreal.CA with SMTP id PAA15208 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6 for ); Tue, 22 Aug 1995 15:50:54 -0400 Received: from terre.IRCM.UMontreal.CA by mars.IRCM.UMontreal.CA (5.x/5.17) id AA11111; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 15:51:39 -0400 Received: by terre.IRCM.UMontreal.CA (SMI-8.6/5.17) id TAA23626; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 19:51:38 GMT Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 15:51:34 -0400 (EDT) From: SI-Johanne Duhaime X-Sender: duhaimj@terre To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: tab in pine or pico Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Good morning Is it possible to set a tab in pine or pico? Let say I want to enter text always at the same column. Tank you Johanne Duhaime IRCM Duhaimj@ircm.umontreal.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 13:23:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09779; Tue, 22 Aug 95 13:23:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24548; Tue, 22 Aug 95 13:20:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24540; Tue, 22 Aug 95 13:20:39 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07490; Tue, 22 Aug 95 13:19:47 -0700 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 13:19:44 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Tim Walton , Paul O Bartlett Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Including mutiple mails during compose... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If you have the "enable-aggregate-cmd-set" feature selected in the Setup/Config screen, you can select several messages, then use "ar" (apply reply) or "af" (apply forward) to reply to, or forward, all of them and include the text. Then edit the message and/or headers to suit your needs... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 22 Aug 1995, Tim Walton wrote: > Date: 22 Aug 1995 10:37:16 GMT > From: Tim Walton > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Including mutiple mails during compose... > > Dear all, > > I've read the help , but i cant see a straightforward way of including several > mail files within a compose session: > By this i mean: how can i include the text of mails i have received , in a message > i am composing , but without using the cut/paste buffer. > Its a common feature in mny other mail tools , but not pine it seems. > Any pointers appreciated, > Regards,Tim. > > > > On Tue, 22 Aug 1995, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 11:58:59 -0400 > From: Paul O Bartlett > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Including mutiple mails during compose... > > On 22 Aug 1995, Tim Walton wrote (excerpted): > > | By this i mean: how can i include the text of mails i have received , in a message > | i am composing , but without using the cut/paste buffer. > | Its a common feature in mny other mail tools , but not pine it seems. > > To the best of my knowledge, no current version of Pine allows you to > do what you want WITHOUT using export/readfile. Personally, I think this > is a design shortcoming of an otherwise fine product. Export/readfile can > simply be a pain, but there is currently no way around it, so far as I > know. (Pine Development Team, are you listening?) > > Paul > -------------------------------------------------- > Paul O. Bartlett > P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. > Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key > -------------------------------------------------- > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 13:27:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09982; Tue, 22 Aug 95 13:27:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19129; Tue, 22 Aug 95 13:25:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19123; Tue, 22 Aug 95 13:25:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0skziM-00038SC; Tue, 22 Aug 95 13:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Delgado Subject: building PINE on DG AV9500 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 12:56:11 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Has anyone successfully built Pine on a DB AV9500? I first had problems with the utime work-around, "fixed" it but now when I use "R"eply, I core dumps: any ideas?! Help, I've fallen and can't get up! :) Thanks in advance for any help. -- Dave From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 15:26:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15325; Tue, 22 Aug 95 15:26:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27234; Tue, 22 Aug 95 15:22:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27222; Tue, 22 Aug 95 15:22:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sl1hs-00038DC; Tue, 22 Aug 95 15:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert L Lovely Subject: Uh... What? Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 15:15:36 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, If this is the wrong place to pose (post) this question please forgive me. Will someone please tell me how to use my anon password. If you give an example (please do), use "alpha" as my password...... No, it is not, I am practically totally computer illiterate, but I am not entirely stupid. Thanx in advance for taking the time, Bob. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 15:35:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15622; Tue, 22 Aug 95 15:35:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22211; Tue, 22 Aug 95 15:32:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22205; Tue, 22 Aug 95 15:32:06 -0700 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA12847; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 15:31:43 -0700 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 15:31:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" To: David Delgado Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: building PINE on DG AV9500 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 22 Aug 1995, David Delgado wrote: > Has anyone successfully built Pine on a DB AV9500? I first had problems > with the utime work-around, "fixed" it but now when I use "R"eply, I core > dumps: any ideas?! You should be able to "build d-g" B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/---------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 16:20:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17433; Tue, 22 Aug 95 16:20:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23281; Tue, 22 Aug 95 16:17:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23275; Tue, 22 Aug 95 16:17:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sl2VU-00038DC; Tue, 22 Aug 95 16:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mrcpu@schizo.cdsnet.net (Jaye Mathisen) Subject: Pine for an ATT PC based SVR4.3 box, with no net? Date: 22 Aug 1995 23:02:05 GMT Message-Id: <41dnld$ri0@news.cdsnet.net> I have a client that needs pine working on an AT&T Unix box on a PC. They don't have a and gethostent() type things that pine wants. Is there some way to get around this completely, ie, no networking stuff at all, just use it as a mailer? I can always bash the code I guess and fake something up, but I'd rather not. let me know. Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 16:50:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18700; Tue, 22 Aug 95 16:50:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24003; Tue, 22 Aug 95 16:46:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23997; Tue, 22 Aug 95 16:46:39 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15963; Tue, 22 Aug 95 16:46:39 -0700 Message-Id: <9508222346.AA15963@shiva1.cac.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 95 16:35:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Where is the latest Pine FAQ? Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 16:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: The most up-to-date version of the Pine FAQ can be found at any of these places: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/faq/ ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/faq.mbox mailto:pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu It may also be accessed in Pine as a folder-collection by adding *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] to your "folder-collections" list in the Setup/Config screen (Pine 3.90 and higher) or in your .pinerc file (Pine 3.85 and higher). Pine and Pico are registered trademarks of the University of Washington. Copyright 1995 by the University of Washington. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 18:03:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21556; Tue, 22 Aug 95 18:03:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00269; Tue, 22 Aug 95 17:57:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00263; Tue, 22 Aug 95 17:57:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sl459-00038DC; Tue, 22 Aug 95 17:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Pine Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) Date: 22 Aug 1995 23:15:59 GMT Message-Id: <41doff$qsr@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/DIGEST; BOUNDARY="----------------------------" Archive-name: mail/pine-faq ------------------------------ Content-Description: Where is the latest FAQ? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Where is the latest FAQ? The most up-to-date version of this FAQ can be found at any of these places: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/faq/ ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/faq mailto:pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu Last updated: 940106 Current release: Pine 3.91, Pico 2.5 Pine and Pico are registered trademarks of the University of Washington. Copyright 1995 by the University of Washington. ------------------------------ Content-Description: What is Pine? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What is Pine? Pine(tm) --a Program for Internet News & Email-- is a tool for reading, sending, and managing electronic messages. It was designed specifically with novice computer users in mind, but can be tailored to accommodate the needs of power users as well. Pine uses Internet message protocols (e.g. RFC822, SMTP, MIME, IMAP, and NNTP) and runs on Unix, MS-DOS, and MS Windows. The guiding principles for Pine's user-interface were: careful limitation of features, one-character mnemonic commands, always-present command menus, immediate user feedback, and high tolerance for user mistakes. It is intended that Pine can be learned by exploration rather than reading manuals. It has the ability to perform full screen editing of messages, include and extract attachments (such as Word or Excel files), and other advanced message system features. Pine uses IMAP for accessing message folders on remote computers and MIME for sending multimedia or other binary files as attachments to normal messages. ------------------------------ Content-Description: What is MIME? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What is MIME? MIME (RFC1521) stands for "Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions". It is an Internet standard which allows transfer of binary files (word-processing documents, spreadsheets, images, sounds, etc) between any compliant mailers. You can get technical information about MIME from the RFC. Ongoing discussion on MIME takes place in the newsgroup comp.mail.mime. There is also a Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) list that is posted regularly to comp.mail.mime, comp.answers and news.answers. If you have a Web browser you can access it through: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/bngusenet/comp/mail/mime/top.html ------------------------------ Content-Description: What is IMAP? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What is IMAP? IMAP stands for "Internet Message Access Protocol". An IMAP client program on any platform at any location on the Internet can access email folders on an IMAP server. While the messages appear to be local, they reside on the server until the client explicitly moves or deletes them. The IMAP protocol is a functional (but incompatible) superset of POP. A principal advantage of IMAP over POP is that it permits using more than one computer to access your mail. Using multiple computers with POP typically results in your mail ending up scattered across all of those computers. Another key advantage is IMAP's ability to selectively access parts of messages, e.g. you don't have to wait for a 2MB audio attachment to be retrieved until you specifically ask for it. This is a big win over low-speed (e.g. dialup) connections. For a detailed comparison of IMAP and POP, see the paper "Comparing Two Approaches to Remote Mailbox Access: IMAP vs. POP." It is available from: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.vs.pop IMAP is what allows Pine (or any other IMAP client) to access email on a remote mail server, usually one that is shared (central or departmental). The current IMAP4 Proposed Standard is described in RFC1730. Additional information is included in RFC1731, RFC1732, and RFC1733. ------------------------------ Content-Description: How can I get a copy of Pine? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How can I get a copy of Pine? Pine is available via anonymous ftp from the pine directory of ftp.cac.washington.edu. ------------------------------ Content-Description: What documentation is available? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What documentation is available? The Pine program itself includes extensive online help. Additional documentation may be found via anonymous FTP or via World-Wide-Web at the following locations: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine The following contributed documentation is also available: http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/creations/ca_pine_guide.html http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/creations/PineIntroduction http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/creations/PineIntermediate If you have documentation that you would like to share, please mail pine@cac.washington.edu a pointer to them and we'll include it here. ------------------------------ Content-Description: What mailing lists and newsgroups are there dealing with Pine? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What mailing lists and newsgroups are there dealing with Pine? The "comp.mail.pine" newsgroup is devoted to Pine. It is bi-directionally gatewayed to the "pine-info" mailing list described below. The following mailing lists deal with Pine and related topics: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Pine-Info is a mailing list for the email program Pine. The mailing list includes discussion of Pine features, bugs, tricks, etc. Often technical and installation questions appear on the list. New releases, fixes and version of Pine are announced on the pine-info mailing list. For official announcements only, you may wish to see pine-announce instead of this list. To subscribe to pine-info, send a message to majordomo@cac.washington.edu with subscribe pine-info in the body of the message. Owners of this mailing list can be contacted at owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu. Pine-Announce@cac.washington.edu Pine-Announce is a announcement list for the email program Pine. When new Pine products are released and old ones updated, a message goes out to this group describing the development. It is a very low volume list and includes no discussion whatsoever. NOTE: All messages to this list are automatically forwarded to pine-info, so it is not necessary to subscribe to both lists! To subscribe to pine-announce, send a message to majordomo@cac.washington.edu with subscribe pine-announce in the body of the message. Owners of this mailing list can be contacted at owner-pine-announce@cac.washington.edu. IMAP@CAC.Washington.EDU This is the official mailing list for the IETF IMAP working group and other interested parties. Discussion of the evolving IMAP standard and related issues is conducted on this list. To subscribe to IMAP, send a message to imap-request@cac.washington.edu. C-Client@CAC.Washington.EDU This list is for discussion of the C-Client library which is used by Pine and various other mail and IMAP clients and servers. To subscribe to C-Client, send any message to c-client-request@cac.washington.edu. ------------------------------ Content-Description: How many sites use Pine? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How many sites use Pine? Based on the number of people getting copies of Pine and its documentation, we know for sure that Pine is used at over 12,000 sites in 60 different countries. We do not have any way to count the exact number of sites using Pine or the total number of users, but we estimate that well over one million people use Pine right now (12/94). People are still jumping on the Pine bandwagon -- about 4,000 new users each day -- so any guess about the number of people who use Pine today will surely be too small tomorrow. ------------------------------ Content-Description: Can we use Pine source code in commercial products? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Can we use Pine source code in commercial products? Pine and C-client source code is copyright by the University of Washington, however it may be used without fee to the University of Washington, even for commercial purposes, subject to the terms of the copyright notice in the code. If you want to use Pine code in commercial products, you must retain the indication of UW trademark and copyright and we ask that you also "explicitly and conspiciously" indicate that there is no business relationship of any kind between you and the University of Washington. Note that the copyright restrictions may not be the same in all versions of the code, but the general information above pertains to all versions of Pine up to and including the current 3.91 release. A related issue concerns use of the name Pine... "Pine and Pico are registered trademarks of the University of Washington. No commercial use of these trademarks may be made without prior written permission of the University of Washington." If you have any doubts about what you need to do to use Pine commercially, write to the Pine Development Team and ask. ------------------------------ Content-Description: How do I send a message to lots people without showing all the names? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How do I send a message to lots people without showing all the names? Put addresses and/or list from your address book in the Bcc: (blind carbon copy) header field. You will see all the names and addresses as you compose the message, but they are erased before arriving in other people's INBOXes. The Bcc: header is not displayed automatically in the default Pine configuration, so you may need to use the rich headers command (Ctrl-R) while the cursor is in the header to expose it. ------------------------------ Content-Description: How can I have a signature automatically appended to my mail messages? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How can I have a signature automatically appended to my mail messages? Using your favorite text editor (e.g. Pico), create a file in your home directory called .signature containing the text you want appended to each message. PC-Pine users should put their signatures in the file \PINE\PINE.SIG. For more details see Nancy McGough's Signature and Finger FAQ. The hypertext version is at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/signature_finger_faq/faq.html The plain text version is at: ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/signature_finger_faq ------------------------------ Content-Description: How can I filter messages into different incoming folders? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team , Nancy McGough Subject: How can I filter messages into different incoming folders? Pine does not do delivery filtering. That function is done by other programs, such as "procmail" or "filter" or "deliver" or "mailagent." Once you have set-up your delivery filtering, e.g. via the "procmail" program, then you will have new mail arriving in several different mailboxes/folders, in addition to your INBOX. So then the question becomes, how do you access those new "incoming message" folders that your favorite delivery filter program has created? One solution is to just access them the same way you access your other mail folders. If they are in your default folder directory (usually $HOME/mail) then just type L to list your folders and select the folder you'd like to view. If they are in a different directory, for example $HOME/mail/IN, add that directory to your folder-collections by putting this into your .pinerc: folder-collections=mail/[], mail/IN/[], And then when you list your folders by typing L the mail/IN directory will be in your list. Another solution is to use Pine's incoming-folders variable. With this method you can use the Tab key to tab through new messages in all your incoming folders. When you are at the last new message in one incoming folder pressing the Tab key will move you to the next incoming folder with a new message. Here is part of a sample .pinerc for setting up incoming folders: incoming-folders=Art151 {warhol.art.nowhere.edu}IN/art151, Art-L {warhol.art.nowhere.edu}IN/Art-L, Old-Student-Acct {fozzie.elsewhere.edu}INBOX In this case, the pinerc entries presume that your delivery filtering program has been configured to put mail relating to the Art151 class into the folder "IN/art151" and mail relating to the Art-L mailing list into "IN/Art-L". >From the Folders List screen, you can then easily access those folders. Eventually we will have a way to indicate which of these may have new mail waiting for you, so that you don't forget that you have more than one place to look for new mail. For a more detailed treatment of filtering, see the Filtering Mail FAQ and the Procmail FAQ. The hypertext version of these are available at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/procmail-faq/faq.html The plain text versions are available at: ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering_mail_faq ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/procmail_faq ------------------------------ Content-Description: How do I define my own headers like Reply-To and Organization? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: Nancy McGough Subject: How do I define my own headers like Reply-To and Organization? In Pine 3.90, and later versions, you can set Reply-To, Organization, and other headers using the customized-hdrs variable. 1. From the Main Menu type s for Setup 2. Type c for Configuration 3. To change the value of the customized-hdrs variable: a) To use the Where command type: w b) At the prompt type: customized-hdrs c) To Add a value type: a d) At the prompt type: Organization: Your Organization Name e) Repeat steps c and d for other headers such ast Reply-To Note that Pine understands environment variables so you can use lines like the following (if the variables are set): Organization: $ORGANIZATION Reply-To: $REPLYTO While reading a message that you've received you can view all headers by typing h. If h does not work you need to go to your configuration menu and set the enable-full-header-cmd variable. While composing a message you can view all the headers by placing the cursor in the header region and typing ^R (view rich headers). Customized headers are not available in Pine 3.89 and earlier. ------------------------------ Content-Description: Can I use Pine non-interactively, e.g., in a shell script? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Can I use Pine non-interactively, e.g., in a shell script? This is not currently possible. If it were possible you could use Pine, and your Pine addressbook, to mail people from within a shell script, at the end of a pipeline, etc. ------------------------------ Content-Description: When I get new mail, xbiff lets me know about it, but pine doesn't know about it. Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: When I get new mail, xbiff lets me know about it, but pine doesn't know about it. There are currently two ways to force a new mail check. * Press `Ctrl-L' (Refresh Display). * At the last message in a folder, press 'N' 4-5 times. ------------------------------ Content-Description: How can I read a ROT13 encoded message? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How can I read a ROT13 encoded message? When viewing the message, use the '|' (Pipe) command and give it the following: tr '[A-Za-z]' '[N-ZA-Mn-za-m]' You could also write a script, maybe called unrot, that does this and then pipe the message to the script. In order for the pipe command to work you need to be using Pine 3.90 or higher and have the enable-unix-pipe-cmd variable set. ------------------------------ Content-Description: Can I eliminate the @host.domain from local addresses? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Can I eliminate the @host.domain from local addresses? This is not a new idea. It's a very old idea, in fact, and just about everyone who has ever dealt with email has had it at one time or another. Regretably, it has come to be recognized as a bad idea. Here's why: An email address without a host name is not syntactically valid according to RFC822. Now, it is true that RFC822 only specifies what must be done in messages which are transmitted over the network, and that strictly local messages are not under RFC822's dictates. This means that there are two formats of email, one that conforms to RFC822 and one that does not. Careful efforts must be made to ensure that the non-conforming mail format never escapes the local system onto the network. Twenty years' of experience has shown that it is impossible to guarantee that the non-conforming format does not escape into the network, even in the face of traps to catch such messages on their way out and convert them to RFC822 conforming format. Indeed, such traps have often contributed additional problems on their own. The non-conforming format is ambiguous as to what host is intended. Although the off-the-cuff solution (and the one that everyone implements) is ``use the local host'', numerous examples have occurred in which this leads to wrong behavior. For example, it may be the ``local mail center'' instead of the ``local machine which is a single-user workstation''. Or, if a one of the non-conforming messages escaped on to the network, it's some remote system and we have no idea at all what system that may be! There's no way for the mail reader to tell; a human may infer from context but often does so by using information that is not available to the program. The Pine team has spent long (and at times heated) meetings reviewing this issue, before coming to the conclusion (as other email groups have independently done) that it's a no-win situation. The policy of the email development community for 15 years (since the RFC733 discussions) has been to exterminate the non-conforming format by not implementing it in modern mail tools. It may be feasible to implement a feature in a future version of Pine that would suppress the display of the local host name in email addresses. That is, the host name would still be in the file on disk, but would not show up on the screen. We'll consider it, but we have a large list of very high priority tasks which must be done first. ------------------------------ Content-Description: How can I use the 'ispell' spell-check program in pine and pico? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Return-Path: Received: via tmail for dlm+pine; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 17:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13049; Thu, 17 Aug 95 17:44:07 -0700 Received: from saul6.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21340; Thu, 17 Aug 95 17:44:06 -0700 Received: by saul6.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29103; Thu, 17 Aug 95 17:44:05 -0700 X-Sender: mramey@saul6.u.washington.edu Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 17:44:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Ramey To: Pine FAQ Inbox Subject: How can I use the 'ispell' spell-check program in pine and pico? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Why use Ispell with Pine (and Pico)? ------------------------------------ - it allows you to add words to a private dictionary so that your name (technical words, etc.) will not be reported as errors; - it offers correct spellings for misspelled words, and you can select one of the offered alternatives by pressing a single key; - it spell checks the document from top to bottom (rather than jumping around in alphabetical order) so you can anticipate the next words to be checked; - because it checks from top to bottom, you can stop the program after checking your reply (at the top) without checking the message you are replying to. How do I use Ispell with Pine (after it is installed) ? ------------------------------------------------------- After you have installed Ispell in pine, when you are entering a message into the pine composer and the cursor is in the "Message Text" area of the screen, you can press ^_ (Control-underscore), to check the spelling of your message. The message header cannot be spell-checked. Inside the ispell program, you can press the following keys: ? Help for ispell space Accept the word - this time only A Accept the word - for the rest of the file (message) I Accept the word - and Insert it in your private dictionary 0-9 Replace the word with one of the suggested alternatives R Replace the word completely (then you enter the replacement) Q Quit checking this file - corrections will be saved X Exit immediately - corrections will be lost If the spell check halts and you see "(INTERRUPT)" in the upper-left corner of the screen, just press the to continue. Generally when this happens, the spell check is complete. See 'man ispell' for more information on the ispell program. How do I install Ispell in Pine ? --------------------------------- There are a couple ways to use Ispell within Pine; method #1 is usually all you need to do. It's very easy; just follow the instructions below. PINE -- METHOD #1: Set your alternate-editor to ispell, then you can press ^_ (Control-underscore) in the composer to invoke ispell. To do this, follow these steps (press the "key" in each step): - Check to be sure that the ispell program is installed on your system, and use the correct directory path; at the unix prompt, enter the command: 'which ispell'. The following instructions assume output from this command was '/usr/local/bin/ispell'. - start the 'pine' program - from the "M"ain-Menu of pine - press "S"etup - then "C"onfig - then "W"hereIs and enter 'editor' (without the ' marks) and press - press "W"hereIs and until you find the line: editor = - press "A"dd-Value, and enter '/usr/local/bin/ispell' (without 's) and press - you should now see: editor = /usr/local/bin/ispell - if so, press "E"xit-Config, and you are done! You can still press ^T to use the standard pine spell-checking program (which will -not- use your personal dictionary, and will not offer suggestions for correct spelling). PINE -- METHOD #2: Pine already checks the SPELL environment variable to locate the spell checking program, so you can create the following script and name it 'spell': #!/bin/sh ispell -l To make ^T in pine use 'ispell' and your private dictionary: - make the above script file 'spell' in your home directory - make it executable: 'chmod u+x spell' - set the environment variable SPELL: 'setenv SPELL $HOME/spell' (include this command in your .profile, .cshrc or .login file) Now, when you press ^T in pine, you will execute the ispell program, and it will recognize words stored in your private dictionary. The screen display will look like pine is using the standard spell-checking program, except words will be checked from top to bottom in the message, rather than in alphabetical sequence. This method does not allow you to Insert words into your private dictionary. However, this might be useful with a central script file (setenv SPELL ...) and a central private dictionary (ispell -p ...) to provide a common private dictionary for an entire workgroup. The manager could add items to the private dictionary; other people could use the private dictionary (^T), but they could not change it. PICO: To use ispell with pico (the stand-alone editor): - implement the 'ispell' program via ^T (CTRL-T) (using the script file) in addition to implementing it via ^_ (CTRL-_) (using pine "S"etup, "C"onfiguration as described above). Use ^T in pico to use the ispell program and your private dictionary (but without the ability to add words to the dictionary). You cannot use ^_ in pico; it is an "Unknown Command". You can use ^T-ispell in pine also, but why bother when ^_ works better. [MRamey] ------------------------------ Content-Description: Why doesn't "attached-to-ansi" printing work? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Why doesn't "attached-to-ansi" printing work? So-called "attached-to-ansi" printing relies on the communication software you are using to interpret certain special characater sequences that tell it to divert the incoming stream of characters to your printer, and then back to your screen. Perhaps 99% of "pine printing problems" are either due to PC or Mac communications software that doesn't understand ANSI escape sequences for printing, *or* (in the dialin case) softare flow- control problems. We didn't understand how big a problem software flow control was until 3.90 came out... we changed pine to intercept flow control characters so that users would not see Pine "wedge" mysteriously if a mis-type or noise generated a control-S, but that did bad things when printers, modems, or comm software was depending on s/w flow control. So in 3.91 we added the "preserve-start-stop-characters" feature, so that Pine could be configured to respect s/w flow control characters (if the operating system did) for those folks who needed them. Enabling this feature should make Pine 3.91 behave the same way as earlier versions. Then we discovered that some operating systems don't enable software flow control by default. So in 3.92, the "preserve-start-stop-characters" feature will do more than simply "not ignoring" them, it will try to force the OS to pay attention to them. So here's the sequence of things to try if you have pine printing problems: 1. CHECK FOR SOFTWARE FLOW-CONTROL PROBLEMS: A. Try enabling "preserve-start-stop-characters" <- requires 3.91 B. If that doesn't help, verify that the OS is enabling s/w flow control; if it isn't, you can either change that in a global .login script, or as a worst case, wrap pine in a script that does it. By the way, on our AIX systems, we had to execute "stty -ixon" followed by "stty ixon" --no one here knows why the first stty is needed. (Note that explicitly enabling s/w flow control in the OS will not be needed in 3.92). C. If neither of the above apply, double-check that you actually have *some* kind of flow control enabled on your system, either hardware or software. 2. CHECK YOUR COMM SOFTWARE FOR ANSI PRINTING CAPABILITY A. After ruling out s/w flow control problems, if printing still doesn't work, the odds are that the PC or Mac comm s/w is at fault. I don't know how to determine this other than via trial-and-error and word-of-mouth. B. The "ansiprt" utility included in the pine distribution can also be used for testing. It simply sends the specified text file to user's terminal device, bracketed with the ANSI escape sequences for print diversion. This is just what Pine does as well (although some versions of ansiprt offer a few options not available via Pine.) 3. POSSIBLE OTHER PRINTING PROBLEMS A. Printing via Pine's "attached-to-ansi" facility to a postscript-only printer. Pine does not yet have the ability to encapsulate text into postscript, ala "enscript", so the custom print option using enscript and ansiprt will be needed in that case. B. Other printer-specific configuration problems. For example, whether or not the printer needs a trailing formfeed to eject the last page, or a control-D, or non-Unix newline conventions, etc. Many of these problem will also require using the custom print command option and "ansiprt". ------------------------------ Content-Description: What PC comm software works with the "Print to ANSI" print option? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What PC comm software works with the "Print to ANSI" print option? The attached-to-ansi option works on most PC communication packages. In particular, Kermit, NCSA Telnet, and WinQVT have been tested. Brent Blumenstein reports "It works in under OS/2 using IBM's TCP/IP for OS/2 telnet capabilities (provided you have updated to the latest corrective service diskettes - readily available). I do this using both a token ring network connection and SLIP from home." Ryan reports "Works great with QmodemPro for DOS." Ben Cacace reports "I'm using ProComm Plus for Windows ver 1.02: I can print E-Mail if it is *not* a large memo (memos of 48K or larger give me a ProComm error message)." Nancy McGough reports "It works with Delrina's WinComm. Other packages will be listed as reports come in. Please send reports to pine@cac.washington.edu. IMPORTANT NOTE ============== If you have a postscript printer and you are printing from a MS Windows Comm program you need to use a non-postscript printer driver. ------------------------------ Content-Description: What Mac comm software works with the "Print to ANSI" print option? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What Mac comm software works with the "Print to ANSI" print option? The UW modified versions of Kermit and NCSA Telnet are known to work with the attached-to-ansi print option. Versaterm Pro is also reported to work. Other packages will be listed as reports come in. Please send reports to pine@cac.washington.edu. ------------------------------ Content-Description: What Amiga comm software works with the "Print to ANSI" print option? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: David Miller Subject: What Amiga comm software works with the "Print to ANSI" print option? David Miller reports "Term 3.2 starts printing, but misses the sequence to stop printing. Term 4.1 printing is garbled." Other packages will be listed as reports come in. Please send reports to pine@cac.washington.edu. ------------------------------ Content-Description: How do I read News with Pine? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How do I read News with Pine? Beginning with version 3.91, it is usually sufficient to set the nntp-server variable, via the Setup/Config menu. This will automatically define a default news-collection. In case the default is not appropriate for your site, the following details may help... Three ways to access news via Pine: 1. Via NNTP. Your .newsrc file must be on the machine where Pine is running. Assuming news is stored on the machine news.nowhere.edu, a typical .pinerc entry would be: news-collections = News *{news.nowhere.edu/nntp}[*] Note that if the nntp-server variable is set, your news-collections will default to NNTP access from that same server. 2. Via IMAP. Your .newsrc file must be on the machine where news is stored. Assuming news is stored on the machine news.nowhere.edu, a typical .pinerc entry would be: news-collections = News *{news.nowhere.edu}[*] 3. Local News. If news is stored on the same machine you run Pine on, you can specify: news-collections = News *[*] The advantage of IMAP newsreading is that the same .newsrc can be used for both Unix Pine and PC-Pine. The disadvantage is that you must have an account on the machine that stores the news and runs the NNTP server. ------------------------------ Content-Description: Can I post news with Pine? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Can I post news with Pine? Versions of Pine prior to Pine 3.90 do not support posting. In Pine 3.90 and later you can enter a list of newsgroups on the Newsgrps: header to post a message. If the Newsgrps: header is not displayed when you are composing you can view it by putting your cursor in the header and typing ^R to view rich headers. ------------------------------ Content-Description: Why does Pine encode text attachments? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Why does Pine encode text attachments? Pine uses MIME's Base64 encoding for *all* attachments, including text, in order to assure that they are not modified in transit. The goal is make sure that sending file attachments in Pine is as dependable as using FTP. Although it may seem like encoding is unnecessary for files that are plain text, certain email gateway, trasport, and delivery agents pose a threat to the integrity of even text files (much less binary files). For example, long lines may be wrapped, trailing spaces deleted, tabs turned into spaces, lines beginning with "From " modified, etc. Pmay there are actually several potential sources of corruption ------------------------------ Content-Description: How can someone without Pine decipher an attachment? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How can someone without Pine decipher an attachment? Pine uses the MIME Internet standard for attaching files to email messages. Any MIME-capable mailer should be able to understand Pine's attachments. If you use Pine's attachment feature, your recipient needs to have either a MIME-capable mail reader or software that can decode MIME. Fortunately, these are not hard to find. The major proprietary mail vendors have committed to MIME support, but some of their upgraded products are some months away. One freely-available program which can decipher a MIME attachment is munpack from Carnegie Mellon. It is available at: ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu//pub/mpack ------------------------------ Content-Description: How can I send a text file without it being encoded? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How can I send a text file without it being encoded? This is easily done by using Pine's "file inclusion" key (Control-R). Instead of entering the file name on the Attchmnt header line, move the cursor to the bottom of your messaage, and press Control-R, then enter the name of the text file. It will be included at the end of your message without any encoding (unless the file contains 8bit or binary characters, in which case the entire message becomes subject to MIME encoding rules.) ------------------------------ Content-Description: Why does Pine use Base64 instead of UUENCODE? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Why does Pine use Base64 instead of UUENCODE? Pine uses the Internet MIME (Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions) standard for all attachments. MIME uses "Base64" encoding rather than uuencode, because uuencode uses characters that are transformed by some email gateways, and there are also several incompatible versions of uuencode. However, if needed, you can certainly uuencode a file outside of Pine, then use the Composer's Ctrl-R (file inclusion) command to insert the uuencoded file into the message. ------------------------------ Content-Description: How do I convert a Sun Mailtool attachment to MIME format? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Return-Path: Received: via tmail for dlm; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 17:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15324; Tue, 15 Aug 95 17:06:27 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07287; Tue, 15 Aug 95 17:06:26 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21890; Tue, 15 Aug 95 17:06:25 -0700 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 17:06:22 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller Reply-To: David L Miller To: David L Miller Subject: How do I convert a Sun Mailtool attachment to MIME format? Message-Id: Return-Receipt-To: David L Miller Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Keith Moore has written a Perl conversion script to convert Mailtool to MIME. The Perl script and C conversion are available in ftp://cs.utk.edu/pub/MIME/sun-to-mime.perl.Z ftp://cs.utk.edu/pub/MIME/sun-to-mime.c.Z The following is from ftp://cs.utk.edu/pub/MIME/sun-to-mime.README This is a simple filter that takes Sun OpenWindows 3 messages as input, and produces MIME messages as output. It's written in perl, so you need perl installed to run it. As shipped, the perl program may call uudecode to undo the effects of uuencoded files, and uuencode to convert binary files to base64 (!). It calls "zcat" to uncompress files. Finally, it needs a program to convert Sun raster files to some other format (like GIF) that MIME supports. As supplied, it uses the "convert" program (part of ImageMagick) to do this, but some other program or set of programs (like the pbm stuff: "rasttopnm | ppmtogif") will also work. Just change the line that calls "convert" to use whatever you have. If you are using MH 6.8 or later with MIME support, put this in your .mhn-profile file (or wherever $MHN points): mhn-show-x-sun-attachment/: sun-to-mime.perl | mhn -file - -show If you are using metamail, put this in your .mailcap file: x-sun-attachment; sun-to-mime.perl < %s | metamail -T ; needsterminal Enjoy! Keith Moore moore@cs.utk.edu ------------------------------ Content-Description: If I postpone a Reply, Pine never marks it as answered. Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: If I postpone a Reply, Pine never marks it as answered. This is a known limitation of the current release of Pine. When you postpone a composition, Pine does not have any way to keep track of which message was being replied to (or that it was a reply at all). This limitation will be removed in a future release. ------------------------------ Content-Description: "Folder Format Invalidated (consult an expert), aborted" Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: "Folder Format Invalidated (consult an expert), aborted" The message "Folder Format Invalidated (consult an expert), aborted" means that Pine was reading your mail folder, and at the point in which it expected a start-of-message header line, it found something else. The ``format invalidated'' condition can happen in one of three ways: 1. bad data exists at the beginning of the folder. 2. data was appended to the folder after Pine initially read it, and the new data did not begin with a start-of-message-header. 3. the folder was modified without Pine being aware of it. All three problems are generally caused by software external to Pine. Condition (1) can be determined by whether or not the problem repeats itself after restarting Pine. If restarting Pine does not make the problem go away, then you need to look at the actual file for the folder and see what is wrong with the very first line. In particular, make sure that there are no blank lines at the beginning of the file and that the first character of the folder file is a capital ``F'' , the second an ``r'', the third an ``o'', etc. In the case of an INBOX, you may want to rename the folder so that new mail can be delivered while repairs on the corrupt folder are being done. Condition (2) may be caused by a mail delivery process (e.g. /bin/mail) which writes some characters other than ``From '' at the beginning of the new data. Condition (3) is caused by another program manipulating the mail folder without following the normal folder locking protocols. This is a general problem on UNIX. Conditions (2) and (3) have also been known to occur when accessing folders via NFS, if the information returned by the stat() and read() system calls do not correspond with each other as a result of NFS attribute caching. Restarting Pine on that folder always clears conditions (2) and (3). If the problem is chronic, it may be worth an investigation to determine its cause. Usually, it is due to the misbehavior of some external software. The reason why Pine gives up with conditions (2) and (3) is that it does not want to risk damaging user data by guessing what is right. Pine never writes to the folder unless it is absolutely sure it knows what it is doing. There are some steps which can be taken to reduce the risk of these conditions coming up. Some of these steps may require the assistance of your system adminstrator (or whomever it was that built and installed Pine on your system): 1. Use IMAP instead of NFS to access remote folders. Problems with locking over NFS are perhaps the single most important cause of user difficulties. Using IMAP eliminates this class of problem. 2. Consider enabling the mbox driver in Pine. If the mbox driver is enabled, mail is transferred from the /usr/spool/mail mail into a file called mbox in your home directory, if mbox exists. The home directory mbox file is then your INBOX. This has the advantage that Pine and the mail delivery system are less often in contention for the INBOX, and never both trying to update it. Pine only empties the /usr/spool/mail file, it never tries updating it. 3. Be careful not to run other programs that modify your folders while you are running Pine. Such programs may change the folder out from under Pine, and lead Pine to conclude that there is a problem with its view of the file. ------------------------------ Content-Description: What is folder locking and how does it work? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What is folder locking and how does it work? Locks are used by Pine and other mail programs to prevent damage from occurring to the mail file when multiple programs try to write to the file at the same time. Because there are many different schemes of mail file locking used on UNIX, Pine implements all of them. The result is a lot of complexity. There are several reasons why locking needs to be done: 1. If you want to read the mail file, you want to make sure that no other process will modify the mail file while you are reading it. 2. If you want to write to the mail file, you want to make sure that no other process is accessing the mail file while you are writing it. 3. If you have the mail file open, you want to make sure that no other process can alter any of the internal contents of the mail file that you have read, but it is OK if another process appends new data to the mail file. 4. If you want to alter any of the internal contents of the mail file, you want to make sure that no other process has the mail file open. There are several mechanisms of locking: * The creation of a file which has the same name as the mail file, but with a suffix of ".lock" (for example, this lock for /usr/spool/mail/isma is named /usr/spool/mail/isma.lock). This file accomplishes locks (1) and (2) above. This is an exclusive lock. * The use of an flock() with LOCK_SH on the mail file. This accomplishes lock (1), and prevents lock (2). Multiple processes can do this. * The use of an flock() with LOCK_EX on the mail file. This accomplishes lock (2), and prevents lock (1). This is an exclusive lock. * The use of an flock() with LOCK_EX on a file on /tmp. The file name used depends upon the version of Pine. This accomplishes locks (3) and (4). This is an exclusive lock. On SVR4-based systems, the lockf() subroutine or fcntl() system call it used instead of flock(). It is rumored that this creates a kind of lock file as well, but this has not been directly verified. _NOTE: flock() on BSD systems does not work over NFS, so only the most basic .lock file locking -- locks (1) and (2) happen over NFS. On SVR4 systems, fcntl() locking attempts to work over NFS, but there are known problems in the rpc.lockd daemon which have caused hangs if an application beats on the mechanism too much (and Pine beats on it). All of the above mechanisms work reliably over IMAP connections._ ------------------------------ Content-Description: What happens when two Pine sessions access the same mailbox at the same time? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What happens when two Pine sessions access the same mailbox at the same time? This varies depending on what format your folders are stored in. With the default Berkeley format, the last session to open a folder will get full access to the folder and the previous session(s) will be changed to read-only access. When a folder is read-only, you will not see any further updates to that folder until it is reopened with full access. Currently the INBOX cannot be reopened without exiting and restarting Pine. With the Tenex format, any number of sessions can simultaneously have full access to a folder, with the exception that expunging is disabled. See "What is a Tenex mailbox and why should I use it?" for more information. ------------------------------ Content-Description: Why did I get the message "locked, override in _XXX_ sec"? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Why did I get the message "locked, override in _XXX_ sec"? The message "locked, will override in _xxx_ seconds" occurs when Pine has discovered that some other mail program claims to be accessing your mail folder (i.e. _folder_.lock exists). This is a very low-level lock used by programs such as the system mailer in delivering mail, and by certain programs such as mail, elm, babyl, mm, etc. Supposedly, this lock is only to be acquired and held for a very short period of time (less than a second). It starts with 285 seconds, retries every second, and issues that message every 15 seconds. The total period of time, 5 minutes, is the time that it will keep on trying before it concludes that the lock is false -- that is, that whatever program locked the folder forgot to unlock it (perhaps it crashed) -- and Pine will go ahead and claim the lock for itself. This is not due to a conflict between two copies of Pine, since Pine interlocks against itself in a higher-level fashion. _NOTE: On some systems with 14 character filename limits, attempting to open a folder with a 14 character name (e.g. saved-messages) will trigger this sequence. Folder names should be limited to 9 characters or less on those systems._ ------------------------------ Content-Description: Why doesn't Pine recognize Content-Length header field? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Why doesn't Pine recognize Content-Length header field? It would be a significant detriment to the performance of the Berkeley format mailbox parsing code, as well as to Pine's behavior on normal systems which do not use the Content-Length: header, if any attempt were made to implement Content-Length:. There are many serious technical problems with the Content-Length: header, and we do not recommend its use. Furthermore, we recommend that a mail delivery agent such as our sendit or tmail tool be used that applies smart quoting, as opposed to the ordinary BSD /bin/mail quoting of all lines that begin with "From ". We have installed such tools on all of our systems. For example, one problem is that a system whose mailer does not implement Content-Length: will also not enforce its validity should that header appear. This offers significant potential for mischief. Another problem is that Berkeley format mailbox files which use the Content-Length: header can not be edited with an editor such as emacs or vi without invalidating the Content-Length: field. If this problem is not a consideration at your site, we recommend the use of the tenex format (mail.txt), which is also length tagged but in a much more efficient fashion. >From our perspective, these problems outweigh any possible benefit of supporting Content-Length: in Berkeley format mailbox files. At the present time there are no plans to do so. ------------------------------ Content-Description: How do I "paste" an address from the addressbook into the text of a message? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How do I "paste" an address from the addressbook into the text of a message? Pine does not currently support this directly, but here is a work-around: 1. Move the cursor to the Cc: line. 2. Enter the nickname or press Ctrl-T to search the addressbook and select the entry. 3. Use Ctrl-K to delete that address from the Cc: line. 4. Move the cursor where you want it in the body of the message. 5. Press Ctrl-U to insert the address. This is a round-about way to get the job done, but it works... ------------------------------ Content-Description: How do I convert Berkeley Mail aliases to Pine Addressbook? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How do I convert Berkeley Mail aliases to Pine Addressbook? The Pine source distribution includes a shell script to do this in the contrib/utils directory. It is called brk2pine.sh. ------------------------------ Content-Description: How do I convert Elm aliases to Pine Addressbook? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: Klaus Wacker Subject: How do I convert Elm aliases to Pine Addressbook? Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="+++++" --+++++ Content-Description: How do I convert Elm aliases to Pine Addressbook? I wrote my own perl script, which I claim digests everything elm accepts and converts it into something pine accepts. Please tell me if you find otherwise. I intend to use this script regularly to keep system-wide aliases and addressbooks in synch. It is archived at: http://www.Physik.Uni-Dortmund.DE/wacker/elm-to-pine A copy is below. --+++++ Content-Description: elm-to-pine: Convert elm aliases file to Pine Addressbook Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="elm-to-pine" #!/usr/local/bin/perl # # elm-to-pine: Convert elm aliases file to pine address book # Author: Klaus Wacker (wacker@Physik.Uni-Dortmund.DE) # # Usage e.g. # elm-to-pine ~/.elm/aliases.text >~/.addressbook # # get a line, combining continuation lines # that start with whitespace # (taken from the perl man page and modified) sub get_line { return 0 if eof(); $thisline = $lookahead; line: while ($lookahead = <>) { if ($lookahead =~ /^[ \t]/) { $thisline .= $lookahead; } else { last line; } } $thisline; } $lookahead = <>; # get first line while ($_ = do get_line()) { next if /^\#/; # Skip comments chop; s/\t/ /g; # Lets not get confused by any tabs in the file ($nicks,$name,$address)=split(/ *= */,$_,3); @nick=split(/ *, */,$nicks); ($fullname,$remark)=split(/ *, */,$name,2); $fullname =~ s/;/,/; # Lastname[;,] Firstname if ($address =~ /,/ ) {$address="(".$address.")";} # Its a list foreach $nicki (@nick) { # Pine doesn't allow multiple nicknames printf "%s\t%s\t%s\t\t%s\n", $nicki, $fullname, $address, $remark; $address = $nick[0]; # Let additional nicks point to the first one } } --+++++-- ------------------------------ Content-Description: Can Kerberos or AFS authentication be used with Pine? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Can Kerberos or AFS authentication be used with Pine? Not yet, but Kerberos support is planned for a future release of Pine. If you have access to Kerberos or AFS compatible IMAP clients already, the following information may be useful. The current version of imapd does not support AFS or Kerberos authentication. However, the routine which validates authentication is designed as a drop-in module, to allow you to replace with alternative authentication schemes such as AFS, Kerberos, S/Key, etc. This routine is server_login(). Depending upon which version of c-client you have, it is either in the os__xxx_.c (where _xxx_ is the name of your port) or it is in a file named log__yyy_.c which is included by the os_xxx.c file. The log__yyy_.c is usually log_std.c (std for "standard UNIX"), but it may be log_sv4.c (SVR4) or a couple of other variants. This file only contains that one routine, so it should be a simple matter to modify that file and rebuild imapd. ------------------------------ Content-Description: Can PC-Pine be used with a POP server? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Can PC-Pine be used with a POP server? No. Neither Pine nor PC-Pine currently support POP's offline mail model (wherein pending mail is pulled from the mail server to the local machine and deleted from the server). However, it is likely that this model will be supported, with a choice of either IMAP or POP as the access protocol, in a future release. ------------------------------ Content-Description: What is a Tenex mailbox and why should I use it? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What is a Tenex mailbox and why should I use it? Using the Tenex format for INBOXes allows multiple sessions (or mulitple users, subject to the usual access controls) to have *almost* full Read-Write access to the INBOX. The only limitation on full RW access is that if there are multiple sessions at a given moment, no one can do an Expunge. However, message state changes (e.g. marking a msg as deleted) *can* be done, and this state is preserved across sessions. If an explicit Expunge command fails, it will say so and tell you that the mailbox is in use by another process. When there is only one session left using that mailbox, expunge will resume working again. In contrast: the normal Berkeley style folders can have only one RW client at a time, so _given the current software_ the latest session steals the RW lock away from any previous session, with the earlier session becoming RO. NOTE: Mailbox format for INBOX is a function of the mail transfer agent (sendmail, tmail), not the mail user agent (Pine), so this is a decision for sys/mail admins, not for regular Pine users. ------------------------------ Content-Description: Where does Pine look for configuration information? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Where does Pine look for configuration information? In Unix and PC Pine 3.90 and higher, the Release Notes (Press "R" on the Main Menu) contain a section on Configuration, including default file names and environment variables. Almost all personal configuration can be accomplished through the Setup (S) command on the main menu. Unix Pine uses three configuration files: a system-wide defaults file, a system-wide non-overridable settings file and a personal coniguration file. If you need to generate a "blank" copy of the system wide configuration files, run "pine -conf > /usr/local/lib". If, for some reason, you need to generate a blank personal configuration file, run "pine -P pinerc.blank". ------------------------------ Content-Description: How do I make Pine work with my older terminal? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How do I make Pine work with my older terminal? Pine does not support some older terminals (e.g. tvi925, WYSE-60) very well. Some problems can be overcome with a proper termcap entry, but others, such as handling cursor keys, do not have a good solution. ------------------------------ Content-Description: How do I configure Pine to not leave mail in /usr/spool/mail? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How do I configure Pine to not leave mail in /usr/spool/mail? You have several options: 1. Leave inbox in /usr/spool/mail, but turn on the Pine option to prompt users to move read messages to a folder in their home directory upon exiting Pine. 2. Modify your mail delivery program to deliver mail directly into the user's home directory, and specify that inbox-path in your global pine.conf (See the "tmail" program on ftp.cac.washington.edu for an example.) 3. "touch mail.txt" in each home directory, which will cause Pine (upon startup) to pull mail from /usr/spool/mail into ~/mail.txt -- however, mail.txt will be a Tenex-format, rather than Berkeley mail format folder (faster, but non-standard). 4. Link in the "mbox" driver when you build Pine. This driver will (upon Pine startup) pull mail from /usr/spool/mail into ~/mbox, which will be a Bky-format folder. ------------------------------ Content-Description: To what platforms has Pine been ported? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: To what platforms has Pine been ported? The Pine distribution includes binaries for AIX 3.2 (on RS/6000), HP/UX 9.0, Linux 1.1, NeXTStep (on NeXT hardware), SunOS 4.1 (on SPARCStations), Solaris 2.2, Ultrix 4.1 and 4.2 (on DECStations), MS-DOS (PC-Pine) and MS-Windows (PC-Pine for Windows). PC-Pine is available for the following TCP/IP stacks: FTP's PC/TCP, University of Waterloo's WATTCP stack with packet drivers, Novell's LAN Workplace, Sun's PC/NFS, and Winsock. Pine has been compiled on other UNIX platforms (4.3 Berkeley UNIX, DEC OSF/1 V1.2A, Dynix/PTX V1.4.0, VAX Ultrix 4.1, A/UX 3.0, BSD/386 Gamma 4.1, Convex, Dynix 3.0 and 3.1 on Sequent Symmetry, Interactive Systems Corporation UNIX, Silicon Graphics IRIS with IRIX 4.0.1, SCO Unix, System V release 4) as well. ------------------------------ Content-Description: Pine 3.89 on an IBM RS/6000 running AIX 3.2.3 crashes every time I try to open a folder. Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Pine 3.89 on an IBM RS/6000 running AIX 3.2.3 crashes every time I try to open a folder. Some AIX distributions apparently include a compiler that does not correctly compile certain constructs used in Pine 3.89 and earlier. We think that Pine 3.90 works around the problems but it is difficult for us to confirm this since there is considerable variation among AIX systems. We have also not been able to identify a particular version or patch of AIX or the compiler that is the culprit. ------------------------------ Content-Description: I cannot compile under SCO unix, why not? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: Gunther Anderson Subject: I cannot compile under SCO unix, why not? Pine has been tested and compiles just fine on a suitably equipped SCO Unix 3.2.4, and probably works on the whole 3.2 series (testing has not been as extensive). It handles both MMDF and sendmail mailboxes without needing recompilation. It should be sufficient just to unpack the source tree and run "sh build sco" at the top level. You need to own the complete Development System, and the Developer's Versions of the other packages. Pine will not compile without TCP/IP support. The most common problem is when people own the Development System, but keep getting missing header files (netbd.h is one) in their builds. This is a common problem on SCO systems because of the great fragmentation SCO enjoys in the marketing of system components. It is easy to get confused about just what you've bought. And in this case, haven't bought. What you need is the "Developer's Version" of the TCP/IP product. The normal version just supports the TCP/IP protocol, but doesn't include tools (including header files) to compile TCP/IP-specific programs. Alas, the only remedies available to you are to pick up a pre-compiled version (mine is on odi.cwc.whecn.edu, ftp.celestial.com has their own, which prefers Bezerk mailboxes, though it supports MMDF too), or to buy the Developer's Version of TCP/IP. If you intend to do any serious compiling of Internet- available programs, I'd recommend the latter, though many of the most useful ones are available precompiled on other FTP sites. ------------------------------ Content-Description: Why should I use the builtin Bug Report command? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Why should I use the builtin Bug Report command? Using the built-in Bug Report command (B on the Main Menu or any Help screen) is useful because it will automatically include configuration information that may be essential to determining the cause of the problem you are experiencing. It also gives you the opportunity to conveniently include the current message as an attachment in case you believe that the problem is specific to that message. ------------------------------ Content-Description: Why does the Bug Report Screen come up when I didn't ask for it? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Why does the Bug Report Screen come up when I didn't ask for it? We don't know yet. ------------------------------ Content-Description: I have found a bug in Pine 3.05. Could you please fix it? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: I have found a bug in Pine 3.05. Could you please fix it? When a bug is identified in an old release, there is a very strong possibility that the associated code has been re-written to the point that a fix will not apply to the current release. Hence, if we can't reproduce the problem in the current version, our standard response will be to ask you to upgrade. ------------------------------ Content-Description: What are the current versions of Pine and related software? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What are the current versions of Pine and related software? The current version of Pine is 3.91. The current version of Pico is 2.5. ------------------------------ Content-Description: What is new in this version of Pine? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What is new in this version of Pine? These are the changes and improvements since Pine 3.89: * Finished all the "Not implemented yet" commands: + Bounce (Remail) + Flag (Set message status) + Pipe (Pipe msg to external cmd; Unix only) + Select,Apply,Zoom (Aggregate operations) + Setup/Config (Pinerc configuration screen) * News posting * News subscription/unsubscription * Multiple address books * Postpone multiple messages * Customizable headers for Composer * Mailcap support * Improved support for multiple incoming message folders * enable-alternate-editor-implicitly feature (except for editing headers) * All .pinerc features now settable from command line * Way to control which options are user-configurable (Unix only) * Way to have Save *not* implicitly delete * Way to use current-working-directory for Export, Read File, etc. * A _preliminary_ version of PC-Pine for Windows/Winsock (but not OS/2) ------------------------------ Content-Description: When is the next release of Pine (tentatively) scheduled? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: When is the next release of Pine (tentatively) scheduled? We don't know right now. 3.92 is under active development, but no dates yet. Besides, our track-record on meeting projected release schedules is terrible, so you shouldn't believe any dates we are foolish enough to suggest anyway. ------------------------------ Content-Description: What new features will future releases of Pine include? Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 95 15:40:48 -0800 From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What new features will future releases of Pine include? The list for 3.92 is not frozen yet. This release will have a number of bug fixes, but it will also introduce several new features. Some of the things we know will be there include: o Fix for some pine.conf variables not working (e.g. local bug address). o Delete flag will no longer be preserved on Save. o Bky mbox format performance bug fixed. o Reply prompt will change if there is a Newsgroups header present. o Improvements in software flow-control handling. o Improvements in bug report command. o Ability to specify an alternative to the sendmail MTA. o Support for negotiating 8BITMIME with an ESMTP server. o Mouse support for use with X terminals. o Pull-down command menus in the Windows version. o Feature to disable capture of pipe command output. o Ability to use mailcap viewer for attachments of type TEXT. o Support for .mime.types file to specify attachment types. After 3.92 is released, here are a few of the things that we plan to work on: * Additional MIME support, esp. controlling file TYPING * PEM and/or PGP support * External directory services access * Kerberos support * RFC1522 header encoding for 8bit character sets * Location independence of support files * Offline support * Hierarchy support (awaits IMAP4) * Answered flag not set if reply is postponed (awaits IMAP4) * Faster detection of folders with Recent messages (awaits IMAP4) * Faster fetching of headers (awaits IMAP4) * Determination of which flags are permanent (awaits IMAP4) -------------------------------- -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 18:15:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21827; Tue, 22 Aug 95 18:15:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25717; Tue, 22 Aug 95 18:12:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25711; Tue, 22 Aug 95 18:12:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sl4KM-00038DC; Tue, 22 Aug 95 18:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: deamar@eskimo.com (Dean Martineau) Subject: Pine 3.91 macro capability? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 23:58:30 GMT Is there some way, either using some unknown Unix command or a Pine shortcut I haven't figured out, to define macros within Pi8ne 3.91? I want to be able to automate the 'aggregate' commands if possible. Dean Martineau deamar@eskimo.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 18:20:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21993; Tue, 22 Aug 95 18:20:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00566; Tue, 22 Aug 95 18:17:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00560; Tue, 22 Aug 95 18:17:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sl4QB-00038HC; Tue, 22 Aug 95 18:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: john@colosys.net (John Campbell) Subject: piane with wyse50 terminals Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 15:40:41 UNDEFINED Message-Id: we're currently running pine 3.91 on an alpha running osf. does anyone know a way to configure pine to run on a wyse 50 terminal? john campbell tripath network pathfinder library system grand junction, colorado john@colosys.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 20:46:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24778; Tue, 22 Aug 95 20:46:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27814; Tue, 22 Aug 95 20:43:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27808; Tue, 22 Aug 95 20:43:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sl6fJ-00038HC; Tue, 22 Aug 95 20:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: RMB Subject: pine confused by some headers Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 23:26:00 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When someone (who uses elm) forwards a message to me, pine (3.91, Solaris 2.4) presents the message as two separate messages, rather than a single message with a forwarded section included. Pine's index displays the first message as being from my friend. However this message is empty. The index displays the 2nd message with no "from" address, and with a date of "xxx -1". Instead of a "from", it just puts a "To: bobb@hsph2" in the index. And, when I read the 2nd message, and turn on rich headers, the only headers appearing are To: and Subject:. No From or Date headers. My question is, who is misbehaving, elm or pine? Is there a workaround for this situation? I've included here the contents of a forwarded message from my friend. (I've added the "> " line prefixes) ==== begin included text ============================================== > From joe@somehost.harvard.eduTue Aug 22 23:09:47 1995 > Date: Mon, 21 Aug 95 13:28:46 EDT > From: Joe User > To: Robert Byers > Subject: How to use UUDECODE (fwd) > > Forwarded message: > From the-concourse-on-highTue Aug 22 23:09:51 1995 > To: icf@hsph2.harvard.edu > Subject: dis izza test, mon. > > Dear Madams/Sirs: > This is a test message, please ignore. > Thanks in advance, -Bob Byers Harvard School of Public Health Boston, MA 02115 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 21:16:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25591; Tue, 22 Aug 95 21:16:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02619; Tue, 22 Aug 95 21:13:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02613; Tue, 22 Aug 95 21:13:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sl7AP-00038DC; Tue, 22 Aug 95 21:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: geoffrey@hunter.its.utas.edu.au (Geoffrey Day) Subject: Re: BINHEX decoding??? Date: 23 Aug 1995 03:54:58 GMT Message-Id: <41e8qj$458@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au> References: <41d83l$d35@nic-nac.CSU.net> dlegate@rsa.csuhayward.edu (Dan LeGate) writes: >Those of you who use a BinHex decoder for unix, what decoder are you >using? Are there different kinds? If there are different BinHex >formats, do they handle all those formats? I assume once you install >your decoder, in a mailer like pine, you simply (V)iew the attachment >then (|)Pipe it to the decoder. Is that right? Thanks for any help or >information you can provide. I use a program called mcvert, handles all bin hexed documents I've seen so far Yes I can pipe to it from pine. -- Geoffrey Day Email : Geoff.Day@its.utas.edu.au Systems Programmer Ph : (002) 20 7415 I.T.S. University of Tasmania From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 22 23:56:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28821; Tue, 22 Aug 95 23:56:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00474; Tue, 22 Aug 95 23:53:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00468; Tue, 22 Aug 95 23:53:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sl9dA-00038DC; Tue, 22 Aug 95 23:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Pal, Biro" Subject: Newbie, Pine with Unix cron ??? Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 06:03:01 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a UNIX slip connection to a server, where my post arrives. I read them with pine (super), but Iwould like to get them from the server on my local computer daily started with cron (no interactive). How can I loose the problem ??? (UUCP service is extra money) Thanks Pal Biro +----------------------------------------------------------+ | Pal Biro | E-mail : boss@corvex.hu | | Corvex Ltd. | | | Noszlopy u. 1. 604. | Voice : (36)1-262-7099 | | H-1103 Budapest | Fax : (36)1-261-7466 | | Hungary | | +----------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 23 06:21:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10104; Wed, 23 Aug 95 06:21:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08942; Wed, 23 Aug 95 06:14:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08936; Wed, 23 Aug 95 06:14:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slFcT-00038HC; Wed, 23 Aug 95 06:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Rollins Subject: An Amiga Port? < Was: Re: INBOX > Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 08:59:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 15 Aug 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > I'm not sure if the Amiga port includes the experimental POP driver. If > it does, try "{192.106.152.1/pop3}inbox". > Is there really an Amiga version of Pine available? If so, then what are the system requirements, and how do I go about getting a copy? Thanks in advance, for any advise! Mike Rollins mjr@conan.ids.net Speaking only for myself. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 23 06:49:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10947; Wed, 23 Aug 95 06:49:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06112; Wed, 23 Aug 95 06:44:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06106; Wed, 23 Aug 95 06:44:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slG32-00038DC; Wed, 23 Aug 95 06:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Rollins Subject: Reply to, and followup lines? Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 09:24:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Since I am not a system administrator, there is no way for me to reboot the Pine program as implemented at my site. Are there any other ways for me to reconfigure Pine, so that it is possible for me to insert either reply-to or follow-up lines in my messages when needed? Any advise is most welcome! Mike Rollins mjr@conan.ids.net Speaking only for myself. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 23 07:19:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11632; Wed, 23 Aug 95 07:19:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09733; Wed, 23 Aug 95 07:14:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09727; Wed, 23 Aug 95 07:14:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slGWe-00038HC; Wed, 23 Aug 95 07:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca (Brian Hampson) Subject: Re: Running on DG/UX Date: 22 Aug 1995 13:54:53 Message-Id: References: <41bhm5$5s0@saucer.inet-serv.com> In <41bhm5$5s0@saucer.inet-serv.com>, jpirner@inet-serv.com writes: >Will Pine 3.91 work on a Data General 8500 AViion running >DG/UX v.5.4R3.10? If so what driver is required? Works perfectly well...I believe the build is: build d-g --- B. Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca System Administrator, Analytical Service Labs, Vancouver BC, Canada Specialists in Environmental Chemistry +604-253-4188 http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/ * They're _MY_ opinions.... nobody else wants them! * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 23 07:51:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12514; Wed, 23 Aug 95 07:51:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10141; Wed, 23 Aug 95 07:45:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10135; Wed, 23 Aug 95 07:45:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slH2R-00038HC; Wed, 23 Aug 95 07:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andreas@wup.de (Andreas Klemm) Subject: Re: Pine vs Elm Date: 23 Aug 1995 12:24:09 GMT Message-Id: <41f6l9$9sa@wup-gate.wup.de> References: <40jjib$k6s@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <40l1v5$dr3@nyheter.chalmers.se> <40v3dv$mdc@wup-gate.wup.de> <41110b$gd2@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <411kdh$mfi@net.auckland.ac.nz> <41866u$o58@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <41b2uq$job@news1.wolfe.net> Nancy McGough (nancym@ii.com) wrote: : tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy) writes: : >Incidentally, I received about a dozen replies, : >10--2 in favour of pine, : >nearly always on the grounds that it was easier for beginners. : Add my vote for Pine, but for the reason that it's more : powerful than Elm. I used Elm for years but as soon as : Pine 3.91 was released I jumped ship (tree) for Pine! I'd agree, if pine had - pgp support - a switch to turn off encoding mails with quoted_printable - better command handling. I'm much faster with elm. - the feature "alias current message" But you are generally right. Pine is a nice mailer ... But elm is a nice mailer, too ;-) -- andreas@wup.de /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ - Support Unix - From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 23 08:02:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12767; Wed, 23 Aug 95 08:02:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07277; Wed, 23 Aug 95 07:56:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dmog10.bell.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07271; Wed, 23 Aug 95 07:56:19 -0700 Received: from dmoc61.on.bell.ca by dmog10.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA23030; Wed, 23 Aug 95 10:56:11 -0400 Received: from huhc06.ON.Bell.Ca by dmoc61.on.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA01565; Wed, 23 Aug 95 10:56:08 -0400 Received: by huhc06 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25491; Wed, 23 Aug 95 10:56:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 10:56:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Violette" Reply-To: jviolett@on.bell.ca To: Mike Rollins Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply to, and followup lines? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: Bell Canada Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 23 Aug 1995, Mike Rollins wrote: > > Since I am not a system administrator, there is no > way for me to reboot the Pine program as implemented at my > site. Are there any other ways for me to reconfigure Pine, > so that it is possible for me to insert either reply-to or > follow-up lines in my messages when needed? Any advise is > most welcome! > > Mike Rollins > mjr@conan.ids.net > Speaking only for myself. > Go to the Main Menu and choose Setup. Then choose Config. Go to the Customized Headers and Select A to add one of the form 'Reply-To: mjr@conan.ids.net'. This will work for Pine 3.91 but I don't know about earlier versions. -- | John R. Violette | Software Development | | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 23 09:32:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16876; Wed, 23 Aug 95 09:32:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09490; Wed, 23 Aug 95 09:29:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [192.131.246.207] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09484; Wed, 23 Aug 95 09:29:20 -0700 Received: from belrs.belcan.com by SYSH.BELCAN.COM via Pony Express SMTP with TCP (v9.5.0-moe002); Wed, 23 Aug 95 12:27:28 EST Received: by belrs.belcan.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.04) id AA40998; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 12:30:37 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 12:30:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Thom Scott To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: NOTIFICATION OF NEW MAIL Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a feature available in Pine which will notify you of the arrival of newly received mail while you are working in another program. i.e. something which would pop-up on the screen to tell you that mail has arrived so that a user would know that they should stop and check their messages. If Pine does not offer this is there something else that does? ****************************************************************************** * Thom Scott --- MIS Belcan Staffing Services Cincinnati, Ohio * ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 23 10:19:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19422; Wed, 23 Aug 95 10:19:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10622; Wed, 23 Aug 95 10:15:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10616; Wed, 23 Aug 95 10:15:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slJNj-00038DC; Wed, 23 Aug 95 10:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) Subject: Re: printing from pine over phone lines Date: 23 Aug 1995 16:49:35 GMT Message-Id: <41fm6v$e8j@tadpole.fc.hp.com> References: Bob Patrick (bob@aztec.lib.utk.edu) wrote: : Here's a quoted message from someone having trouble. Any ideas? : "I am having a consistent problem with Pine at home. Each time that I try : to print messages of any length (over 2 or 3 Pine screens worth), my : printout is not complete. I am using the "Y" command to print entire : documents since I can no longer scroll back through the buffer : highlighting the specific text that I want to print. I have tried other : VersaTerm options such as saving stream, etc., but the saved text has all : manner of codes at the start of lines and repeated text (Pine seems to : repeat the last line or so from the previous screen at the top of the next : screen)." QUICK AND DIRTY WORK-AROUND: Use your communications software facility for printing (Alt-l for ProComm Plus) to dump each screen to the printer. One disadvantage is that you get two lines printed twice at each screen break (with some menu text intermixed). A double-deep work around would be to save the file to a temporary file, leave pine, and use the printing facility in combination with "cat" or some equivalent viewing facility. P.S. I would like to be able to use the "Y" command as well at home -- or on site for that matter. -- + DAVID MULLANEY Email: mullaney@fc.hp.com (970) 229-7629 + + Mailstop #99, Loctn. 1UN5 -*- fax 2838 + + > Software Engineer -- Ignition/UDL/OSSD /\/\/\ + + > Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, Colorado _-/\^^/ \ + From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 23 10:49:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21159; Wed, 23 Aug 95 10:49:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13899; Wed, 23 Aug 95 10:45:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13893; Wed, 23 Aug 95 10:45:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slJo1-00038DC; Wed, 23 Aug 95 10:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Delgado Subject: Re: building PINE on DG AV9500 Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 10:28:22 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 22 Aug 1995, Brian P. Hampson wrote: > > > Has anyone successfully built Pine on a DB AV9500? I first had problems > > with the utime work-around, "fixed" it but now when I use "R"eply, I core > > dumps: any ideas?! > > You should be able to "build d-g" I did do that, that's how I was able to get a core dump via running pine. Actually, I had to add an include () to c-client/os_d-g.h to get the thing to compile. At any rate, the point I'm at is I have pine, pico, imapd and mtest all compiled but I'm getting the mentioned error. any ideas? -- Dave From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 23 10:59:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21600; Wed, 23 Aug 95 10:59:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11689; Wed, 23 Aug 95 10:52:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11681; Wed, 23 Aug 95 10:52:32 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09736; Wed, 23 Aug 95 10:52:29 -0700 Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 10:52:25 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Mike Rollins Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: An Amiga Port? < Was: Re: INBOX > In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII See http://math.uwaterloo.ca:80/~jsshephe/ or contact Jeff Shepherd --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 23 Aug 1995, Mike Rollins wrote: > Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 08:59:20 -0400 (EDT) > From: Mike Rollins > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: An Amiga Port? < Was: Re: INBOX > > > > On 15 Aug 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > > > I'm not sure if the Amiga port includes the experimental POP driver. If > > it does, try "{192.106.152.1/pop3}inbox". > > > > Is there really an Amiga version of Pine available? > If so, then what are the system requirements, and how do I > go about getting a copy? Thanks in advance, for any advise! > > Mike Rollins > mjr@conan.ids.net > Speaking only for myself. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 23 11:01:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21651; Wed, 23 Aug 95 11:01:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14164; Wed, 23 Aug 95 10:56:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14158; Wed, 23 Aug 95 10:56:36 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09908; Wed, 23 Aug 95 10:56:29 -0700 Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 10:56:24 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "John R. Violette" Cc: Mike Rollins , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply to, and followup lines? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 23 Aug 1995, John R. Violette wrote: > Go to the Main Menu and choose Setup. Then choose Config. Go to the > Customized Headers and Select A to add one of the form > 'Reply-To: mjr@conan.ids.net'. > > This will work for Pine 3.91 but I don't know about earlier versions. > It'll work in 3.90 too, but note that Pine 3.90 has some serious addressbook bugs (you can lose the whole thing) and anyone still using it should convince their sysadmins to upgrade ASAP... --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 23 11:27:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23034; Wed, 23 Aug 95 11:27:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12536; Wed, 23 Aug 95 11:25:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12530; Wed, 23 Aug 95 11:25:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slKQw-00038DC; Wed, 23 Aug 95 11:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ajay@unison.com (Ajay Lunawat) Subject: Re: BINHEX decoding??? Message-Id: <1995Aug23.163959.2797@unison.com> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 16:39:59 GMT References: <41d83l$d35@nic-nac.CSU.net> In article <41d83l$d35@nic-nac.CSU.net>, dlegate@rsa.csuhayward.edu (Dan LeGate) writes: |> Those of you who use a BinHex decoder for unix, what decoder are you |> using? Are there different kinds? If there are different BinHex |> formats, do they handle all those formats? I assume once you install |> your decoder, in a mailer like pine, you simply (V)iew the attachment |> then (|)Pipe it to the decoder. Is that right? Thanks for any help or |> information you can provide. |> I am actually looking for BinHex decoder. Could you tell me if ther is any free available? I would also like to get information how to integrate with my mail reader. I currenty use mailtoo. Thanks for all your help. Ajay |> Dan LeGate From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 23 11:28:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23060; Wed, 23 Aug 95 11:28:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14816; Wed, 23 Aug 95 11:25:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14810; Wed, 23 Aug 95 11:25:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slKQw-00038HC; Wed, 23 Aug 95 11:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Where is the latest Pine FAQ? Date: 23 Aug 1995 18:05:23 GMT Message-Id: <41fql3$64o@news1.wolfe.net> References: <9508222346.AA15963@shiva1.cac.washington.edu> pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu (The Pine Development Team) writes: >It may also be accessed in Pine as a folder-collection by adding > > *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] > >to your "folder-collections" list in the Setup/Config screen (Pine 3.90 >and higher) or in your .pinerc file (Pine 3.85 and higher). This is very cool - thanks for telling us about this! It would be great if the Pine FAQ were also regularly crossposted to comp.mail.pine,comp.answers,news.answers so that it would get archived on all the FAQ archive servers like rtfm.mit.edu, etc. FYI, I have lots of info about FAQ archives at: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/internet/faqs.html Thanks, Nancy -- Nancy McGough Primary Web: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ Infinite Ink Mirror Web: http://www.best.com/~ii/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 23 11:48:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23936; Wed, 23 Aug 95 11:48:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13060; Wed, 23 Aug 95 11:45:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13052; Wed, 23 Aug 95 11:45:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slKm9-00038DC; Wed, 23 Aug 95 11:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Vaishali Goradia Subject: reading forwarded mime file Date: 23 Aug 1995 17:50:34 GMT Message-Id: <41fppa$jin@spruce.citicorp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm new to pine and have a question about MIME files. How do I read a MIMEd file that was attached in the original email but when forwarded to me, sent as text? It's an msword doc that I've tried to save and read in word but it only shows MIME. thanks shali From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 23 13:00:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26465; Wed, 23 Aug 95 13:00:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16617; Wed, 23 Aug 95 12:55:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16611; Wed, 23 Aug 95 12:55:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slLsS-00038DC; Wed, 23 Aug 95 12:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bob@hobbes.dtcc.edu (Bob Rahe) Subject: Re: Can I disable .pine-debug files? Date: 23 Aug 1995 19:32:19 GMT Message-Id: <41fvo3$djp@hopi.dtcc.edu> References: <40dnnv$lh1@mindy.cs.utexas.edu> <40sq82$nc5@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au> In article <40sq82$nc5@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au>, System Adminstrator wrote: >In article <40dnnv$lh1@mindy.cs.utexas.edu>, > ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) writes: >>[ larry@austin.ibm.com wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] >> >>-> I'd like to disable the .pine-debug? file generation. Is there any >>-> way to do that vi pine or the .pinerc? Thanks ... >> >> Start up PINE with "pine -d0". > >Or you can recompile... there's an option for default debug levels >somewhere... in the /pine source directory in on of the two files > Makefile.xxx >OR > os-xxx.c > >where xxx represents your build architecture. Have fun. It's in the Makefile - take out the "-DDEBUG". -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Bob Rahe, Delaware Tech&Comm Coll.| "It is a very great poverty to decide | |Computer Center, Dover, Delaware |that a child must die that you may live| |Internet: bob@hobbes.dtcc.edu |as you wish." Mother Theresa | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 23 13:49:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28840; Wed, 23 Aug 95 13:49:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15946; Wed, 23 Aug 95 13:45:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15935; Wed, 23 Aug 95 13:45:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slMdS-00038DC; Wed, 23 Aug 95 13:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: males@wotangate.micro.ti.com (Mike Ales) Subject: folders being loaded read-only Message-Id: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 19:41:38 GMT I just pulled the latest Pine release for Windows from www.washington.edu. I'm off to a real good start, but for some strange reason all of the Mail-folders that I am able to generate indexes for come up read-only. So I cannot delete messages, etc. The mail-folder is local to the PC, I am just trying to get setup for an off-line reader at this point. Any clues would be greatly appreciated. -- Thanks and Regards, Mike Ales males@wotangate.sc.ti.com These opinions are of course just my own. I do not let my employer speak for me and I will not speak for them, unless paid to do so, by my employer. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 23 14:51:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01673; Wed, 23 Aug 95 14:51:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19089; Wed, 23 Aug 95 14:46:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19083; Wed, 23 Aug 95 14:46:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slNbj-00038DC; Wed, 23 Aug 95 14:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Subject: Re: NOTIFICATION OF NEW MAIL Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 16:00:58 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: try adding biff y to your .login file or other configuration file that will do something like what you are asking for. TjL On 23 Aug 1995, Thom Scott wrote: > > Is there a feature available in Pine which will notify you of the arrival > of newly received mail while you are working in another program. i.e. > something which would pop-up on the screen to tell you that mail has > arrived so that a user would know that they should stop and check their > messages. If Pine does not offer this is there something else that does? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 23 15:08:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02574; Wed, 23 Aug 95 15:08:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19495; Wed, 23 Aug 95 15:05:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19489; Wed, 23 Aug 95 15:05:04 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19228; Wed, 23 Aug 95 15:05:03 -0700 Message-Id: <9508232205.AA19228@shiva1.cac.washington.edu> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 15:00:30 -0700 (PDT) From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How do I submit a question (and answer) for the Pine FAQ? Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 15:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: To submit a question and answer to the Pine Development Team for inclusion in the Pine Frequently Asked Questions lists: - Send it as a message to pine+faq@cac.washington.edu. - The Subject: line should consist of the question, exactly as it should appear in the FAQ. - The body of the message should be the answer, exactly as it should appear in the text FAQ. - Comments not part of the question and answer should be sent in a separate message. If you do not want to be credited in the FAQ, please tell us in a separate message so we can remove your name. - Make the answer as generic as possible. + Avoid references to specific versions of Pine in the question and answer. + Avoid terminology, references, directory paths, etc, that are specific to one platform, installation or site. - If possible, references to sources of software, additional documentation, etc, should be in the form of a URL pointing to the primary source. - URLs should be placed on a separate line and indented from the text. The Pine Team will evaluate the question and answer for accuracy, clarity, and appropriateness. Digest, text, and HTML forms of the FAQ are generated automatically from the message. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 23 15:14:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03149; Wed, 23 Aug 95 15:14:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18205; Wed, 23 Aug 95 15:11:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18199; Wed, 23 Aug 95 15:11:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slO0X-00038DC; Wed, 23 Aug 95 15:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy) Subject: Re: Pine vs Elm Date: 23 Aug 1995 22:59:31 +0100 Message-Id: <41g8c3$m4f@bell.maths.tcd.ie> References: <40jjib$k6s@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <40l1v5$dr3@nyheter.chalmers.se> <40v3dv$mdc@wup-gate.wup.de> <41110b$gd2@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <411kdh$mfi@net.auckland.ac.nz> <41a576$4a3@wup-gate.wup.de> andreas@wup.de (Andreas Klemm) writes: >nroff might be relatively old, but it's _source_... >I think I don't have to explain the advantages, to have >documentation source available .... Using Linux I am probably spoiled, but I expect programs to come with .texi manual, for printing with TeX or viewing with info. I can't argue with someone who likes nroff. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 23 17:28:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09509; Wed, 23 Aug 95 17:28:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22703; Wed, 23 Aug 95 17:25:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ids.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22697; Wed, 23 Aug 95 17:25:53 -0700 Received: from conan.ids.net by ids.net with SMTP; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 20:22:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 20:21:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Rollins To: David L Miller Cc: "John R. Violette" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply to, and followup lines? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 23 Aug 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Aug 1995, John R. Violette wrote: > > > Go to the Main Menu and choose Setup. Then choose Config. Go to the > > Customized Headers and Select A to add one of the form > > 'Reply-To: mjr@conan.ids.net'. > > > > This will work for Pine 3.91 but I don't know about earlier versions. > > > > It'll work in 3.90 too, but note that Pine 3.90 has some serious > addressbook bugs (you can lose the whole thing) and anyone still using > it should convince their sysadmins to upgrade ASAP... > Dear People: Appended below, is my first attempt to insert a "reply-to" line as suggested. I also attempted to insert such a line without any sort of quotes, plus with two "`" marks, and with two regular quote marks. All of these efforts were unsuccessful. Even if I had experienced success, such a procedure would not be the best for me, because it would not permit me to easily use a "reply-to" line only on some of my E-Mail. Thank you anyway, for trying to assist me with this problem. Sincerely, Mike Rollins mjr@conan.ids.net > From mjr@conan.ids.net > Received: from ids.net (ids.net [155.212.1.2]) by conan.ids.net > (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA03940 for ; > Wed, 23 Aug 1995 14:01:55 -0400 > Received: from conan.ids.net by ids.net with SMTP; > Wed, 23 Aug 1995 14:02:44 -0400 (EDT) > Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 14:01:53 -0400 (EDT) > From: Mike Rollins > To: mjr@conan.ids.net > Subject: Testing what happens with this > Message-ID: > 'Reply-to: mjr@conan.ids.net' > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > Will this "reply-To line work? > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 23 19:20:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12615; Wed, 23 Aug 95 19:20:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24201; Wed, 23 Aug 95 19:16:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24195; Wed, 23 Aug 95 19:16:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slRmd-00038DC; Wed, 23 Aug 95 19:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ken Gross Subject: ///PINE 3.91/UNIX Shell ??\\\ Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 01:17:12 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 1. What can I set in Pine to notify my UNIX shell when mail arrives? 2. How can I find out (from my UNIX shell) if the Pine program is up and running correctly on my system without actually invoking it? I am running: tcsh 6.04.00 (Cornell) 93/07/03 (bsd386) options 8b,nls,dl,al Thanx in advance. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ken Gross Free-lance Technical Writer "Quality is free." --Philip B. Crosby ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 23 20:27:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14361; Wed, 23 Aug 95 20:27:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24919; Wed, 23 Aug 95 20:16:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from avocado.wustl.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24913; Wed, 23 Aug 95 20:16:01 -0700 Received: by avocado.wustl.edu (NX5.67e/NeXT-3.0-SLT/GHC) id AA03182; Wed, 23 Aug 95 22:15:59 -0500 Message-Id: <9508232205.AA19228@shiva1.cac.washington.edu> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 15:00:30 -0700 (PDT) From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How do I submit a question (and answer) for the Pine FAQ? Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 15:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Apparently-To: Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 22:15:51 -0500 (CDT) Resent-From: Hussain Chinoy Resent-To: lab-list@wugate Resent-Message-Id: To submit a question and answer to the Pine Development Team for inclusion in the Pine Frequently Asked Questions lists: - Send it as a message to pine+faq@cac.washington.edu. - The Subject: line should consist of the question, exactly as it should appear in the FAQ. - The body of the message should be the answer, exactly as it should appear in the text FAQ. - Comments not part of the question and answer should be sent in a separate message. If you do not want to be credited in the FAQ, please tell us in a separate message so we can remove your name. - Make the answer as generic as possible. + Avoid references to specific versions of Pine in the question and answer. + Avoid terminology, references, directory paths, etc, that are specific to one platform, installation or site. - If possible, references to sources of software, additional documentation, etc, should be in the form of a URL pointing to the primary source. - URLs should be placed on a separate line and indented from the text. The Pine Team will evaluate the question and answer for accuracy, clarity, and appropriateness. Digest, text, and HTML forms of the FAQ are generated automatically from the message. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 23 22:10:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16891; Wed, 23 Aug 95 22:10:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26025; Wed, 23 Aug 95 22:06:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26019; Wed, 23 Aug 95 22:06:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slUQO-00038DC; Wed, 23 Aug 95 22:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ken Gross Subject: Re: NOTIFICATION OF NEW MAIL Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 21:44:23 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 23 Aug 1995, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > try adding > biff y > to your .login file or other configuration file > that will do something like what you are asking for. > > TjL This did not solve my problem. All it did was cause the error 'mesg: /dev/tty directory not found' when I logged into my tcsh. I don't know if Thom is running in a tcsh or not, so can't say definitavely if the 'biff y' trick will work for him. (Would another shell work better? Say a bash or a ksh?) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ken Gross All comments made WADR (With All Due Respect) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > On 23 Aug 1995, Thom Scott wrote: > > > > Is there a feature available in Pine which will notify you of the arrival > > of newly received mail while you are working in another program. i.e. > > something which would pop-up on the screen to tell you that mail has > > arrived so that a user would know that they should stop and check their > > messages. If Pine does not offer this is there something else that does? > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 23 23:41:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18652; Wed, 23 Aug 95 23:41:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27275; Wed, 23 Aug 95 23:37:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from actcom.co.il by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27261; Wed, 23 Aug 95 23:36:59 -0700 Received: from galtronics.UUCP by actcom.co.il with UUCPgaltronics (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id JAA00561 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 09:14:16 +0300 (rfc931-sender: uucp@localhost) Received: by aviion.galtronics.co.il (5.4R2.10/ACTCOM-GALTRONICS-S-1.0) id AA14945; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 15:46:11 GMT Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 15:46:11 +0000 (GMT) From: Aladdin Khamis To: PINE-INFO Subject: two acounts Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How can you set up your account to automatically send a copy of all your incoming mail to a different account, but not forwarding, I need the messages to be in both accounts, kinda like automatic bouncing without the need to issue the bounce command. Aladdin Khamis Information Systems Department Galtronics Ltd. P.O.Box 1589 Tiberias 14115 Tel: 972-6-732-111 Ext.299 Fax: 972-6-732-037 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 24 00:47:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19858; Thu, 24 Aug 95 00:47:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27996; Thu, 24 Aug 95 00:41:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27988; Thu, 24 Aug 95 00:41:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slWuw-00038DC; Thu, 24 Aug 95 00:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cdh@worf.MR.Net (Chris D. Halverson) Subject: Re: ///PINE 3.91/UNIX Shell ??\\\ Date: 23 Aug 1995 21:13:04 -0500 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: Ken Gross's message of Wed, 23 Aug 1995 01:17:12 -0700 >>>>> "Ken" == Ken Gross writes: In article Ken Gross writes: Ken> 1. What can I set in Pine to notify my UNIX shell when mail Ken> arrives? 2. How can I find out (from my UNIX shell) if the Pine Ken> program is up and running correctly on my system without Ken> actually invoking it? 1. You can't. But, since you mentioned that you're using tcsh, put the follwoing in your .tcshrc file: set tperiod=3 alias periodic frm -n or whatever your prefered "frm" command is. Check out tcsh(1). 2. Use "ps". Try "ps -augx | grep pine" if you're on a BSD'ish system. Once again, check ps(1). Chris -- Chris D. Halverson | Network Engineer Minnesota Regional Network | Voice: (612) 342-2838 511 11th Avenue South, Box 212 | Email: cdh@MR.Net Minneapolis, MN 55415 | WWW: http://www.MR.Net/~cdh/ PGP signed/encrypted mail accepted, finger for PGP public key From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 24 05:17:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26077; Thu, 24 Aug 95 05:17:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01719; Thu, 24 Aug 95 05:12:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01713; Thu, 24 Aug 95 05:12:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slb8H-00038DC; Thu, 24 Aug 95 05:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chdemgt@state.systems.sa.gov.au Subject: Re: PINE and Multiple Accounts Message-Id: <1995Aug24.200137.28083@state.systems.sa.gov.au> Date: 24 Aug 95 20:01:36 +0930 References: <40qhsn$3jb@decaxp.harvard.edu> In article <40qhsn$3jb@decaxp.harvard.edu>, vecsey@course2.harvard.edu (Lester Vecsey) writes: > As a system administrator I find myself logging into various accounts > (news, feedback, webmaster, etc..) using 'su', or launching a new telnet > window. Is there anyway to load ONE copy of Pine and switch between the > different mailbox's from within it? You should have /usr/lib/aliases which is probably well commented. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 24 06:21:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27236; Thu, 24 Aug 95 06:21:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01638; Thu, 24 Aug 95 06:12:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01632; Thu, 24 Aug 95 06:12:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slc4N-00038HC; Thu, 24 Aug 95 06:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: advise10@rorqual.cc.metu.edu.tr (hasan basri akirmak) Subject: Using vi in pine [Q] Date: 13 Aug 1995 18:41:48 GMT Message-Id: <40lh1c$mu6@mogan.cc.metu.edu.tr> My setting the editor value in setup did not work. How can I use vi thenr? Please reply with mail. -- Hasan Basri AKIRMAK ---------------------------------- MIDDLE EAST TECHNICAL UNIVERSITY Computer Engineering Student E-mail: akirmak@ceng.metu.edu.tr ----------------------------------- ----------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 24 07:05:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28060; Thu, 24 Aug 95 07:05:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02116; Thu, 24 Aug 95 07:00:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02110; Thu, 24 Aug 95 07:00:12 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 24 Aug 95 21:57:49 +0800 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 21:57:48 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Wong Pui Ming Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: signature on top when reply In-Reply-To: <41be59$13k0@ctsc.hkbc.hk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 22 Aug 1995, Wong Pui Ming wrote: > We are running pine under DEC OSF/1. When replying to a mail (and > choose include original message), pine will put my signature on > top of the original message. This is a nuisance as the signature should > be at the bottom. How can I make pine do otherwise Well....the signature *should* be where you want it. It is a configuration option....at least at pine 3.91. Go the config screens and find the place you need to check. You may even find some other interesting options. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 24 08:35:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01528; Thu, 24 Aug 95 08:35:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04824; Thu, 24 Aug 95 08:31:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dcdsv0.fnal.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04818; Thu, 24 Aug 95 08:31:21 -0700 Received: by dcdsv0.fnal.gov via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA06093; Thu, 24 Aug 95 10:31:14 -0500 Message-Id: <9508241531.AA06093@dcdsv0.fnal.gov> To: "Timothy J. Luoma" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, cmoseber@dcdsv0.fnal.gov Subject: Re: NOTIFICATION OF NEW MAIL In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 23 Aug 1995 16:00:58 CDT." Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 10:31:13 CDT From: Clyde Moseberry biff y sets your user execute permission to ACTIVE OR 1 on tty to check your tty status type ls -l `tty` if biff doesn't reside on your system, try setting the user execute permission manually with chmod u+x `tty` to get really COOL (with subject and sender included) notification, see if rcvtty is on your system -- if it's available set it up in a .forward file -- run a man page on rcvtty for details -- look at the references at your leisure too; rcvtty require u+x on tty. you can also use mesg y to get but that allows other intrusions into your sessions that you might not want -- such as talk and write from group and public levels MOSEBERRY > try adding > biff y > to your .login file or other configuration file > that will do something like what you are asking for. > > TjL > > > On 23 Aug 1995, Thom Scott wrote: > > > > Is there a feature available in Pine which will notify you of the arrival > > of newly received mail while you are working in another program. i.e. > > something which would pop-up on the screen to tell you that mail has > > arrived so that a user would know that they should stop and check their > > messages. If Pine does not offer this is there something else that does? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 24 09:08:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03866; Thu, 24 Aug 95 09:08:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05614; Thu, 24 Aug 95 09:02:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05608; Thu, 24 Aug 95 09:02:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slehc-00038DC; Thu, 24 Aug 95 09:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: imi@intr.net (Sanjay Patel) Subject: Having trouble setting the user-domain Date: 24 Aug 1995 14:56:52 GMT Message-Id: <41i3vk$7rd@eddie.intr.net> HI, I am trying to set the user domain on our host to something other than our hostname for a particular user. i.e. the hostname for our box is imi.intr.net, and I have aliased the box as akos.com in the sendmail.cf and named.host files. I have set the user domain variable in the .pinerc to akos.com when this user sends mail from pine, the from line contains imi.intr.net, and I want it to be akos.com. What else am i missing?? I have read thru all the docs i have and I can't find anything else on this. If I change the user name in the pinerc, that seems to work, though. thanks, for any help sanjay spatel@imi.intr.net OR imi@intr.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 24 09:48:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06083; Thu, 24 Aug 95 09:48:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06843; Thu, 24 Aug 95 09:42:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from inet1.dtrd.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06821; Thu, 24 Aug 95 09:41:52 -0700 Received: (from nuucp@localhost) by inet1.dtrd.de (8.6.11/8.6.10) with UUCP id SAA01901; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 18:40:55 +0200 Received: from sun51.fz.telekom.de (sun51.fz.telekom.de [192.166.56.95]) by sunshine.fz.telekom.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA02877; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 18:40:22 +0200 Received: by sun51.fz.telekom.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22395; Thu, 24 Aug 95 18:42:27 +0200 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 18:42:27 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ralf Widera Reply-To: widera@fz.telekom.de To: Clyde Moseberry Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: NOTIFICATION OF NEW MAIL In-Reply-To: <9508241531.AA06093@dcdsv0.fnal.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > biff y sets your user execute permission to ACTIVE OR 1 on tty > to check your tty status type > > ls -l `tty` > > if biff doesn't reside on your system, try setting the user execute > permission manually with > > chmod u+x `tty` biff y or chmod u+x `tty` does not work. I always get something like: /dev/ttyp1: Not owner ls -l `tty` results in crw-rw-rw- 1 root 20, 1 Aug 24 18:36 /dev/ttyp1 What can I do? -raw --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralf Widera, FZ 211b | Email: widera@fz.telekom.de | Deutsche Telekom AG | phone: +49 6151 83 3855 | o Forschungs- und Technologiezentrum | FAX : +49 6151 83 4066 | /\/ Postfach 10 00 03 | ~ ~~ \__ /_/ D-64276 Darmstadt, Germany | ~~ ~~ / ~ ~~ --- If con is the opposite of pro, is congress the opposite of progress? -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 24 10:52:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08747; Thu, 24 Aug 95 10:52:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06899; Thu, 24 Aug 95 10:48:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06887; Thu, 24 Aug 95 10:48:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slgLf-00038DC; Thu, 24 Aug 95 10:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mabzug1@umbc.edu (Mordechai T. Abzug) Subject: Re: two acounts Date: 24 Aug 1995 17:10:53 GMT Message-Id: <41ibqt$mf3@news.umbc.edu> References: Aladdin Khamis (khamis@aviion.galtronics.co.il) wrote: : How can you set up your account to automatically send a copy of all your : incoming mail to a different account, but not forwarding, I need the : messages to be in both accounts, kinda like automatic bouncing without the : need to issue the bounce command. See procmail(1) in your system man pages. -- -Mordechai T. Abzug Homepage: http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mabzug1 send email to: mabzug1@umbc.edu If God wanted us to do Hex, we'd have 16 fingers. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 24 10:56:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08865; Thu, 24 Aug 95 10:56:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07036; Thu, 24 Aug 95 10:53:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07030; Thu, 24 Aug 95 10:53:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slgSG-00038OC; Thu, 24 Aug 95 10:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Subject: Re: NOTIFICATION OF NEW MAIL Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 12:02:04 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I believe there also exists a program called 'newmail' and its counterpart 'wnewmail' (they were on my system [precompiled] when I acquired it, so I can't help with any source code) that way be worth checking into archie. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu NeXT 3.2 m68k Just another convert to the Z-Shell "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." *+*+* MIME or ASCII Mail only !!!! *+*+*+*+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 24 10:56:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08897; Thu, 24 Aug 95 10:56:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08572; Thu, 24 Aug 95 10:53:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08566; Thu, 24 Aug 95 10:53:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slgSG-00038MC; Thu, 24 Aug 95 10:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Subject: Re: two acounts Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 12:06:04 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > > How can you set up your account to automatically send a copy of all your > incoming mail to a different account, but not forwarding, I need the > messages to be in both accounts, kinda like automatic bouncing without the > need to issue the bounce command. I believe this can be accompished with the .forward file, where you put both the current address and the address you want the copy sent to, in a format something like this: me@someother.address.com \me@righthere.mymachine.com but that may not be exactly the right syntax (let me say that if it were the right syntax, I'd be surprised) but it is close TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu NeXT 3.2 m68k Just another convert to the Z-Shell "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." *+*+* MIME or ASCII Mail only !!!! *+*+*+*+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 24 12:00:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12103; Thu, 24 Aug 95 12:00:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10198; Thu, 24 Aug 95 11:58:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10192; Thu, 24 Aug 95 11:58:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slhT5-00038DC; Thu, 24 Aug 95 11:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Subject: replying/posting to news Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 12:10:08 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII in PINE 3.91 can I: - respond to a message posted to a newsgroup without sending an email copy to the author - choose to respond to the author and the newsgroup, and then when asked for confirmation, decide to only send it to the author, and not post it? if so, please say how. if I am being unlcear, please let me know TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu NeXT 3.2 m68k Just another convert to the Z-Shell "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." *+*+* MIME or ASCII Mail only !!!! *+*+*+*+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 24 12:45:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14419; Thu, 24 Aug 95 12:45:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09704; Thu, 24 Aug 95 12:43:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09696; Thu, 24 Aug 95 12:43:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sli9H-00038DC; Thu, 24 Aug 95 12:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lou3@netcom.com (Louis Lesko) Subject: Re: Pine vs Elm Message-Id: References: <40jjib$k6s@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <40l1v5$dr3@nyheter.chalmers.se> <40v3dv$mdc@wup-gate.wup.de> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 19:02:58 GMT I started on pine, real easy for the beginner. But as I became more familiar with unix, I found elm to be more powerful and much more customizable for individual tastes. Another thing I like about elm over pine is that its fast. Quick in, quick out. I think this is one of those arguments thats doomed to a circular existence. Both programs have an equal amount of pro's and cons. Elm seems to be more compatible with other unix programs which is a big bonus. Pine offers news reading capabilities, but the programs set up as newsreader only do a superior job. Cheers, -- LOU- Generally speaking, things have gone about as far as they can possibly go when things have got about as bad as they reasonably get. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 24 13:21:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16257; Thu, 24 Aug 95 13:21:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10572; Thu, 24 Aug 95 13:16:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10566; Thu, 24 Aug 95 13:16:57 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19981; Thu, 24 Aug 95 13:16:47 -0700 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 13:16:44 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Mike Rollins Cc: "John R. Violette" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply to, and followup lines? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here is a clip from the Setup/Config for one of my accounts: customized-hdrs = Reply-To: This makes the header available if you press ^R in the composer (with the cursor in the headers) but does not include it in the outgoing message unless you type in a value... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 23 Aug 1995, Mike Rollins wrote: > Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 20:21:50 -0400 (EDT) > From: Mike Rollins > To: David L Miller > Cc: "John R. Violette" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Reply to, and followup lines? > > > On Wed, 23 Aug 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > > > On Wed, 23 Aug 1995, John R. Violette wrote: > > > > > Go to the Main Menu and choose Setup. Then choose Config. Go to the > > > Customized Headers and Select A to add one of the form > > > 'Reply-To: mjr@conan.ids.net'. > > > > > > This will work for Pine 3.91 but I don't know about earlier versions. > > > > > > > It'll work in 3.90 too, but note that Pine 3.90 has some serious > > addressbook bugs (you can lose the whole thing) and anyone still using > > it should convince their sysadmins to upgrade ASAP... > > > > Dear People: > > > Appended below, is my first attempt to insert a "reply-to" > line as suggested. I also attempted to insert such a line without > any sort of quotes, plus with two "`" marks, and with two regular > quote marks. All of these efforts were unsuccessful. Even if I > had experienced success, such a procedure would not be the best > for me, because it would not permit me to easily use a "reply-to" > line only on some of my E-Mail. Thank you anyway, for trying to > assist me with this problem. > > > Sincerely, > > Mike Rollins > > mjr@conan.ids.net > > > > > From mjr@conan.ids.net > > Received: from ids.net (ids.net [155.212.1.2]) by conan.ids.net > > (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA03940 for ; > > Wed, 23 Aug 1995 14:01:55 -0400 > > Received: from conan.ids.net by ids.net with SMTP; > > Wed, 23 Aug 1995 14:02:44 -0400 (EDT) > > Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 14:01:53 -0400 (EDT) > > From: Mike Rollins > > To: mjr@conan.ids.net > > Subject: Testing what happens with this > > Message-ID: > > 'Reply-to: mjr@conan.ids.net' > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > > > > Will this "reply-To line work? > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 24 13:22:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16328; Thu, 24 Aug 95 13:22:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12149; Thu, 24 Aug 95 13:18:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12143; Thu, 24 Aug 95 13:18:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slies-00038HC; Thu, 24 Aug 95 13:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: two acounts Date: 24 Aug 1995 19:54:06 GMT Message-Id: <41ilcu$5eq@news1.wolfe.net> References: "Timothy J. Luoma" writes: >> How can you set up your account to automatically send a copy of all your >> incoming mail to a different account, but not forwarding, I need the >> messages to be in both accounts, kinda like automatic bouncing without the >> need to issue the bounce command. > >I believe this can be accompished with the .forward file, where you put >both the current address and the address you want the copy sent to, in a >format something like this: > >me@someother.address.com >\me@righthere.mymachine.com I think all you need to do is put this in your .forward \me@someother.address.com The backslash means to save a copy at the current address. Note that on some systems you need to also do: chmod a+r .forward chmod a+x $HOME Good luck, Nancy -- Nancy McGough Primary Web: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ Infinite Ink Mirror Web: http://www.best.com/~ii/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 24 13:40:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17117; Thu, 24 Aug 95 13:40:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10868; Thu, 24 Aug 95 13:34:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dcdsv0.fnal.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10862; Thu, 24 Aug 95 13:34:21 -0700 Received: by dcdsv0.fnal.gov via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA14942; Thu, 24 Aug 95 15:34:05 -0500 Message-Id: <9508242034.AA14942@dcdsv0.fnal.gov> To: widera@fz.telekom.de Cc: cmoseber@dcdsv0.fnal.gov, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: NOTIFICATION OF NEW MAIL Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 15:34:05 CDT From: Clyde Moseberry > biff y or chmod u+x `tty` does not work. I always get something like: > /dev/ttyp1: Not owner it seems you don't have chmod permission; contact your local system administrator to grant permission ... but read on first! > ls -l `tty` results in > crw-rw-rw- 1 root 20, 1 Aug 24 18:36 /dev/ttyp1 > What can I do? > -raw this permission state actually should be sufficient for notification via rcvtty -- this looks like a mesg y setting, which simply sets write permission active everywhere have you determined if you have rcvtty? if so, try: \widera@fz.telekom.de, "| /usr/local/lib/mh/rcvtty -biff" in a .forward file at your root level on fz. all punctuation (\ , ") *IS* significant; you *don't* need biff to work on your machine for usage of the biff option in this syntax > --- If con is the opposite of pro, is congress the opposite of progress? -- I like that. MOSEBERRY From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 24 14:31:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20432; Thu, 24 Aug 95 14:31:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13851; Thu, 24 Aug 95 14:26:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from inet1.dtrd.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13845; Thu, 24 Aug 95 14:26:00 -0700 Received: (from nuucp@localhost) by inet1.dtrd.de (8.6.11/8.6.10) with UUCP id XAA03057; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 23:25:57 +0200 Received: from sun51.fz.telekom.de (sun51.fz.telekom.de [192.166.56.95]) by sunshine.fz.telekom.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA03451; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 23:19:37 +0200 Received: by sun51.fz.telekom.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22523; Thu, 24 Aug 95 23:21:43 +0200 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 23:21:42 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ralf Widera Reply-To: widera@fz.telekom.de To: Clyde Moseberry Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: NOTIFICATION OF NEW MAIL In-Reply-To: <9508242034.AA14942@dcdsv0.fnal.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 24 Aug 1995, Clyde Moseberry wrote: > > biff y or chmod u+x `tty` does not work. I always get something like: > > /dev/ttyp1: Not owner > > it seems you don't have chmod permission; contact your local system > administrator to grant permission ... but read on first! > > > ls -l `tty` results in > > crw-rw-rw- 1 root 20, 1 Aug 24 18:36 /dev/ttyp1 > > this permission state actually should be sufficient for notification via > rcvtty -- this looks like a mesg y setting, which simply sets write > permission active everywhere unfortunately I do not have rcvtty. Is it worth to download it from somewhere? In this case: where from ? How should the permissions on /dev/ttyp1 be set so that biff y is possible? TIA -raw --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralf Widera, FZ 211b | Email: widera@fz.telekom.de | Deutsche Telekom AG | phone: +49 6151 83 3855 | o Forschungs- und Technologiezentrum | FAX : +49 6151 83 4066 | /\/ Postfach 10 00 03 | ~ ~~ \__ /_/ D-64276 Darmstadt, Germany | ~~ ~~ / ~ ~~ -----------------Gossip: The only thing that travels faster than e-mail.-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 24 14:51:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21204; Thu, 24 Aug 95 14:51:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12498; Thu, 24 Aug 95 14:45:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12492; Thu, 24 Aug 95 14:45:23 -0700 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0slk6R-000sCCC; Thu, 24 Aug 95 23:46 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Thu, 24 Aug 95 23:43 MESZ Received: from paddington (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paddington (8.7.Beta.11/8.7.Beta.11) with SMTP id XAA00609; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 23:01:44 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Joswig Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 23:01:43 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: hasan basri akirmak Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using vi in pine [Q] In-Reply-To: <40lh1c$mu6@mogan.cc.metu.edu.tr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hasan, you have to call the editor explicit with (Oh no, I've forgotten the Shortcut!) Anyway, it seems to me you want to use vi every time so you can choose Setup from Main Menu, goto Config and there you can set the following two features ON: enable-alternate-editor-cmd and enable-alternate-editor-implicitly Then every time you move your cursor into the Message Text vi will be called. Have fun! Michael Joswig On 13 Aug 1995, hasan basri akirmak wrote: > My setting the editor value in setup did not work. > How can I use vi thenr? > Please reply with mail. > > -- > > Hasan Basri AKIRMAK > ---------------------------------- > MIDDLE EAST TECHNICAL UNIVERSITY > Computer Engineering Student > > E-mail: akirmak@ceng.metu.edu.tr > ----------------------------------- > ----------------------------------- > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 24 16:55:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26662; Thu, 24 Aug 95 16:55:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15120; Thu, 24 Aug 95 16:53:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15114; Thu, 24 Aug 95 16:53:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slm5I-00038DC; Thu, 24 Aug 95 16:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vader@deathstar.gov (The Dark Lord Of The Sith) Subject: PINE for the mac? Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 18:27:52 -0400 Message-Id: Hello, Do you know of any plans for a version of Pine to be ported to the Mac? It seems odd that it's out there for all of the other major OS's, but still not for the Mac. Thanks in advance for the help -- winthroa@cleo.bc.edu "Après moi, le déluge" -- Louis XV From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 24 17:07:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27690; Thu, 24 Aug 95 17:07:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17319; Thu, 24 Aug 95 17:03:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17312; Thu, 24 Aug 95 17:03:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slmAc-00038DC; Thu, 24 Aug 95 16:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: randal@HERCULES.CS.UREGINA.CA (Dee Jay Randall) Subject: Re: ///PINE 3.91/UNIX Shell ??\\\ Date: 24 Aug 95 22:47:27 GMT Message-Id: References: Ken Gross writes: >1. What can I set in Pine to notify my UNIX shell when mail arrives? >2. How can I find out (from my UNIX shell) if the Pine program is > up and running correctly on my system without actually invoking it? >I am running: >tcsh 6.04.00 (Cornell) 93/07/03 (bsd386) options 8b,nls,dl,al >Thanx in advance. This is for SUN, but try putting 'biff y' in your .login file. Check if 'biff' exists by reading the man page: 'man biff' or by typing 'which biff' which will tell you where biff is running from. To tell if pine is running type: 'ps | grep pine' 'ps' tells you what processes you have running and 'grep pine' shows only lines that have 'pine' in them. Dee Jay Randall _-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_ randal@cs.uregina.ca | | { } The best players make everyone look good. { } _-__-_ ouch, { } -unknown { } > < that hurt | | __) chomp (____________ ~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 24 17:51:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29508; Thu, 24 Aug 95 17:51:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16236; Thu, 24 Aug 95 17:48:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16230; Thu, 24 Aug 95 17:48:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slmsC-00038DC; Thu, 24 Aug 95 17:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brad@azathoth.ops.aol.com (Brad Knowles) Subject: Re: ///PINE 3.91/UNIX Shell ??\\\ Date: 24 Aug 1995 23:08:30 GMT Message-Id: <41j0pe$5on@wcnews01.ops.aol.com> References: In comp.mail.sendmail (article ), Ken Gross (candk@also.hooked.net) wrote: > 1. What can I set in Pine to notify my UNIX shell when mail arrives? > 2. How can I find out (from my UNIX shell) if the Pine program is > up and running correctly on my system without actually invoking it? This is a Mail User Agent issue, and belongs on comp.mail.pine. -- Brad Knowles, Internet Mail Systems Administrator BKnowles@aol.net comp.mail.sendmail FAQ Maintainer brad@his.com The comp.mail.sendmail FAQ is located at: The views expressed herein are the property and responsibility of the author, and unless stated otherwise, do not necessarily represent the official position of of America Online, Inc., or anyone else. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 24 19:09:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02201; Thu, 24 Aug 95 19:09:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19605; Thu, 24 Aug 95 19:04:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19599; Thu, 24 Aug 95 19:03:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slo51-00038DC; Thu, 24 Aug 95 19:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nancy@Wolfe.NET (Nancy McGough) Subject: cmsg cancel <41ilcu$5eq@news1.wolfe.net> Control: cancel <41ilcu$5eq@news1.wolfe.net> Date: 25 Aug 1995 01:25:14 GMT Message-Id: <41j8pq$c5d@news1.wolfe.net> cancel <41ilcu$5eq@news1.wolfe.net> in newsgroup comp.mail.pine This article was cancelled from within NN version 6.5.0 #5 (NOV) -- Nancy McGough Primary Web: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ Infinite Ink Mirror Web: http://www.best.com/~ii/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 24 23:13:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07722; Thu, 24 Aug 95 23:13:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23247; Thu, 24 Aug 95 23:08:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23241; Thu, 24 Aug 95 23:08:50 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07425; Thu, 24 Aug 95 23:08:50 -0700 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 23:08:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Common addressbook between PC-Pine and Unix Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 21 Aug 1995, David L Miller wrote: > Pine does not currently support remote addressbooks, unless you have > some external file sharing mechanism, e.g. NFS, SMB... and even then it doesn't work correctly if you are trying to share between a PC and Unix. Should in next version, though (still using NFS, SMB, ...). Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 25 01:11:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10053; Fri, 25 Aug 95 01:11:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24662; Fri, 25 Aug 95 01:04:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24656; Fri, 25 Aug 95 01:04:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sltfy-00038DC; Fri, 25 Aug 95 00:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: s11976@net2.hkbu.edu.hk (Wong Pui Ming) Subject: Newbie:steps to send pgp encry. mail Date: 25 Aug 1995 06:05:23 GMT Message-Id: <41jp73$jq4@ctsc.hkbc.hk> I know nothing about sending encrypted email (not to mention PGP encrypted mail). So can someone outline the steps I need to take to send PGP encrypted email. Maybe sone specific questions will help too: 1. What other software do I need to run besides the elm and pine we run on the unix machine 2. What is the PGP public key ? How and where to put in with the mail ? 3. What versions of elm or pine must I use ? -- ___ ___ L_|_ _|_J ( -O> Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11903; Fri, 25 Aug 95 02:50:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22641; Fri, 25 Aug 95 02:44:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22635; Fri, 25 Aug 95 02:44:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slvF7-00038DC; Fri, 25 Aug 95 02:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bruce@rpl.regina.sk.ca (Bruce Welch) Subject: Re: NOTIFICATION OF NEW MAIL Date: 25 Aug 1995 08:08:28 GMT Message-Id: <41k0ds$8ei@tomcat.sasknet.sk.ca> References: <9508241531.AA06093@dcdsv0.fnal.gov> In article , Ralf Widera wrote: : :biff y or chmod u+x `tty` does not work. I always get something like: :/dev/ttyp1: Not owner : :ls -l `tty` results in :crw-rw-rw- 1 root 20, 1 Aug 24 18:36 /dev/ttyp1 : :What can I do? : Avoid the whole mess, put "wnewmail &" into your .login file. I use wnewmail -i10 & to check for mail every 10 seconds - runs quietly in the background and kills itself when I logoff. -- this signature being renovated ... excuse the mess From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 25 06:38:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17081; Fri, 25 Aug 95 06:38:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25031; Fri, 25 Aug 95 06:31:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha.loyno.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25025; Fri, 25 Aug 95 06:31:00 -0700 Received: by alpha.loyno.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/22Jul94-0234PM) id AA04717; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 10:32:21 +0200 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 10:32:21 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mary Aplin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Disabling printing of help files Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like my users NOT to be able to print the help file. Is there a way to do this? (Pine 3.91) Thanks, Mary Aplin Loyola University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 25 07:26:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18172; Fri, 25 Aug 95 07:26:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25588; Fri, 25 Aug 95 07:21:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dcdsv0.fnal.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25576; Fri, 25 Aug 95 07:21:22 -0700 Received: by dcdsv0.fnal.gov via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA09548; Fri, 25 Aug 95 09:21:15 -0500 Message-Id: <9508251421.AA09548@dcdsv0.fnal.gov> To: widera@fz.telekom.de Cc: cmoseber@dcdsv0.fnal.gov, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: NOTIFICATION OF NEW MAIL Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 09:21:15 CDT From: Clyde Moseberry > unfortunately I do not have rcvtty. Is it worth to download it from > somewhere? In this case: where from ? I believe rcvtty to be a standard part of the standard UNIX mail handling mh, set, but I am not an admin at my node so I don't know for sure or where to find it -- but my best guess is that it is likely on your system somewhere or at least reasonably easy to get -- contact your local admin, raise a little hell already -- users can't (and shouldn't!) do everything! %+) O'Reilly & Associates has a text out "MH & xmh" that is *reilly* good (if they steal that this documents that I'm due a royalty) ISBN 1-56592-027-9 it really is the bible on MH and xmh (the X Windows front end to MH) O'Reilly's Germany contact nodes: phone 49-228-970240 in Bonn email gerd@orade.ora.com Their Web page was voted Best of 94: http://gnn.com/ora (plaintext version: gopher.ora.com) Online book ordering: order@ora.com Example files from O'Reilly texts: ftp.uu.net cd published/oreilly > How should the permissions on /dev/ttyp1 be set so that biff y is possible? > TIA just as long as the user permission r-w-x is set to active chmod u+x `tty` it doesn't matter what any of the other settings are MOSEBERRY From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 25 07:26:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18183; Fri, 25 Aug 95 07:26:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29487; Fri, 25 Aug 95 07:19:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.bridgeway.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29479; Fri, 25 Aug 95 07:19:14 -0700 Received: from server.bridgeway.com (server.bridgeway.com [204.57.180.3]) by server.bridgeway.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA27441; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 07:19:46 -0700 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 07:19:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Le To: The Dark Lord Of The Sith Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE for the mac? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Yes, I'm waiting for the Macintosh version also. How about a Power Mac=20 version? Yeah! On Thu, 24 Aug 1995, The Dark Lord Of The Sith wrote: > Hello, >=20 > Do you know of any plans for a version of Pine to be ported to the Mac?= =20 > It seems odd that it's out there for all of the other major OS's, but > still not for the Mac. >=20 > Thanks in advance for the help >=20 > --=20 > winthroa@cleo.bc.edu >=20 > "Apr=E8s moi, le d=E9luge" -- Louis XV >=20 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 25 07:30:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18302; Fri, 25 Aug 95 07:30:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29587; Fri, 25 Aug 95 07:25:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29581; Fri, 25 Aug 95 07:25:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0slzgD-00038VC; Fri, 25 Aug 95 07:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Newbie:steps to send pgp encry. mail Date: 25 Aug 95 13:32:31 GMT Message-Id: References: <41jp73$jq4@ctsc.hkbc.hk> s11976@net2.hkbu.edu.hk (Wong Pui Ming) writes: >I know nothing about sending encrypted email (not to mention PGP mail). >So can someone outline the steps I need to take to send PGP encrypted email. I am trying to answer this on page http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/elm.pgp.html It's still just a draft, so I welcome all hints for more info. I have stored some URLs about PGP somewhere which I will add RSN. >Maybe sone specific questions will help too: >1. What other software do I need to run besides the elm and pine we run on > the unix machine? Well, "pgp" for one thing. For now, please take a look at alt.security.pgp and the FAQs therein. >2. What is the PGP public key ? How and where to put in with the mail ? PGP is a "public key crypto system", meaning that you can publish your "public key" (a data set) for others to encrypt mail for you which you will be able to read (decrypt) with your "secret key". >3. What versions of elm or pine must I use ? If you just use the PGP scripts (morepgp, mailpgp) then any version of ELM will do. However, you need "perl" as they were written in perl. There is a set of patches for ELM2.4PL24 written by Michael Elkins which add PGP support to ELM. More info on that from the above mentiones page. There are links to Michael's www pages, too. Sven Cc: s11976@net2.hkbu.edu.hk (Wong Pui Ming) -- ELM - the screen oriented mail program. Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm ELM versions: Latest release: ELM 2.4 PL24 || Latest alpha: ELM 2.5PL06 The "ELM Pages" - all about ELM on the World Wide Web: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ [950823] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 25 07:53:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19001; Fri, 25 Aug 95 07:53:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25953; Fri, 25 Aug 95 07:50:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25947; Fri, 25 Aug 95 07:50:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sm00x-00038ZC; Fri, 25 Aug 95 07:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: billr@elmer.tsc.com (Bill Roberts) Subject: Re: Newbie:steps to send pgp encry. mail Date: 25 Aug 1995 09:02:28 -0500 Message-Id: <41kl5k$d0j@elmer.tsc.com> References: <41jp73$jq4@ctsc.hkbc.hk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In article <41jp73$jq4@ctsc.hkbc.hk>, Wong Pui Ming wrote: >I know nothing about sending encrypted email (not to mention PGP >encrypted mail). So can someone outline the steps I need to take to >send PGP encrypted email. First recommendation, buy the book _PGP: Pretty Good Privacy_ by Simson Garfinkel, published by O'Reilly. I would find it hard to believe that it is not available in Hong Kong, at least at some of the bigger bookstores or at the college book store. Phil Zimmerman also has a book out published by MIT Press, but I can't remember the title. The Garfinkel book is pretty much the standard text on PGP. >Maybe sone specific questions will help too: >1. What other software do I need to run besides the elm and pine we >run on the unix machine Obviously, PGP, and an editor. There is a version of elm that combines an interface to PGP with it. When you are ready to send a message, in addition to the usual choices of send, edit, and forget it, you are also given a choice pgp. If you choose pgp, you can encrypt, sign, or both. The encrypt has a problem in that if the address does not exactly match the key owner, it can't find the key. For example, my key is owned by billr@tsc.com. If you had this key in your public ring, and tried to encrypt a reply to this message, the mailer wouldn't find it, since our mailer attaches the machine name to the from line, and my address is billr@elmer.tsc.com. But for the most part the elm/PGP combo is handy. Also useful if you use emacs is mailcrypt. With mailcrypt, you can encrypt your files (messages) from within emacs. But all you really need is a mail program, editor, and pgp. >2. What is the PGP public key ? How and where to put in with the mail ? The public key is the key is the key that you let anyone have to send you messages. There is no attempt to keep it secret. Here is my key: - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQBtAy9t1tgAAAEDALtPwQ7n5gHHiZkpPzUPwXiYz2LLpvirqvFC8iiiE3xG6Wk6 Dd6wBqPNYwYmz8Cy1AAu1UMMwoLSPKsxiugnGmQmUHSYGpikkqp9uS1l4tJUXPXv 8Q6ga+mLT9tWsA2pWQAFEbQcQmlsbCBSb2JlcnRzIDxiaWxsckB0c2MuY29tPg== =Glx4 - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- You can use the above key to verify my signature to this message, check my fingerprint, or send me an encrypted message. The issue of whether I am really the Bill Roberts who works at TSC, or an imposter stealing his mail is another issue entirely. (I am, I swear it). >3. What versions of elm or pine must I use ? Any version that works for you. I would recommend that when you encrypt something, though, you use "ASCII armor" and set text mode. Some mailers (maybe one along the path of your message) don't like non-ASCII characters in messages. text mode provides protection for different text files. Best bet, get the book and read it. Then try using PGP to send and receive both plain text, signed messages (like this one) or encrypted messages. Hope this helps. (n for next message, return for signatures) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.3, an Emacs/PGP interface iQB1AwUBMD3Xp4tP21awDalZAQHLfgMApCVYlWFvtvY8x29MY9PDwYsNKSKSr1BF P6CJ9s9/FZfTmkIGl4B3wNL+JSTURciUMAkp37ChAxSX/g9qM49mmPo+3TYSVkaY t0AwItCl30WaYbpi1psVIWxn08DTryZ5 =NOj3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Bill Roberts - | Usual employers disclaimer on what I say. Technology Service Corp | I reserve the right to change my opinion in (812) 336-7576 x 134 | mid sentence http://www.tsc.com/css | Key fingerprint = 12 8B 28 01 DC AE 10 31 08 0B 49 CD 65 02 3C D9 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 25 09:35:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23515; Fri, 25 Aug 95 09:35:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02378; Fri, 25 Aug 95 09:30:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02372; Fri, 25 Aug 95 09:30:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sm1dd-00038DC; Fri, 25 Aug 95 09:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: replying/posting to news Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 11:44:00 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 24 Aug 1995, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: | in PINE 3.91 can I: | | - respond to a message posted to a newsgroup without sending an email | copy to the author Simply press 'R' for reply. Pine should ask you whether to reply to the newsgroup. If you say yes, you can additionally reply to the author at the same time by putting the cursor in the header and pressing Ctrl-R for Rich Headers in order to fill in the To: field. If you don't use the Ctr;-R technique, your reply will go only to the newsgroup. | - choose to respond to the author and the newsgroup, and then when asked | for confirmation, decide to only send it to the author, and not post it? Again, before you send it, put the cursor in the header and press Ctr-R for Rich Headers. You can manipulate the Newsgroups: and To: fields to your heart's content. Then send it. | [...] Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 25 11:18:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27735; Fri, 25 Aug 95 11:18:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00169; Fri, 25 Aug 95 11:15:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00163; Fri, 25 Aug 95 11:15:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sm3HK-00038DC; Fri, 25 Aug 95 11:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ws@xivic.bo.open.de (Wolfgang Schelongowski) Subject: Re: Where is the latest Pine FAQ? Date: 25 Aug 1995 18:03:17 +0200 Message-Id: <41ks85$f3j@xivic.bo.open.de> References: <9508222346.AA15963@shiva1.cac.washington.edu> <41fql3$64o@news1.wolfe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In <41fql3$64o@news1.wolfe.net> Nancy McGough writes: ... >It would be great if the Pine FAQ were also regularly crossposted >to comp.mail.pine,comp.answers,news.answers so that it would get >archived on all the FAQ archive servers like rtfm.mit.edu, etc. >From my archive: Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine,comp.mail.misc,news.software.readers,news.newusers.questions,comp.answers,news.answers Subject: Pine Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) Date: 22 Aug 1995 23:15:59 GMT ^^^^^^^^^^^ Message-ID: <41doff$qsr@nntp5.u.washington.edu> ... Archive-name: mail/pine-faq However, this seems to be the first time this FAQ was posted in news.answers. -- Wolfgang Schelongowski ws@xivic.bo.open.de Ye have made of my Father's house a suite of offices. -- A god complains in: Tom Holt, Odds and Gods From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 25 13:00:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02427; Fri, 25 Aug 95 13:00:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07098; Fri, 25 Aug 95 12:51:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07092; Fri, 25 Aug 95 12:51:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sm4jI-00038DC; Fri, 25 Aug 95 12:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jef@netcom.com (Jef Poskanzer) Subject: Does pine read all the mail into memory? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 19:08:07 GMT I don't use pine myself, haven't done more than browse through the man page. I'm a sysadmin on a public access system where it's installed. One of our users has a 17meg mail file (he likes mailing lists), and I've noticed that when he fires up pine he gets a ~25meg process, we run out of memory and start swapping, and system performance goes to hell. Is pine really reading the whole mail file into memory? Is there a way to configure it to not do this? --- Jef Jef Poskanzer jef@acme.com jef@river.org http://www.river.org/~jef/ "Trust is good, but control is better." -- Feliks Dzerzhinski From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 25 14:05:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05029; Fri, 25 Aug 95 14:05:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08766; Fri, 25 Aug 95 14:02:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08760; Fri, 25 Aug 95 14:02:19 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA05724; Fri, 25 Aug 95 23:00:16 +0200 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 23:00:15 +0200 (METDST) From: Vladimir Solnicky =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: Keith Shomper Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine for SGI's (Irix 5.3) In-Reply-To: <40qfml$22g@blackbird.afit.af.mil> Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Acknowledge-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On 15 Aug 1995, Keith Shomper wrote: > Anything new with Silicon Graphics on IRIX 5.3? Send me an email if > you have a good pointer. Thanks. I think it should be on ftp.utia.cas.cz in /pub/unix/unix-binary/... (I do not remember the tail of the path). Check it. It works fine under Irix 5.3. Now I've looked on the sever and found its ..../SGI-indy/pine3.91.tare.gz. Hope this helps. V. S. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz ftp.utia.cas.cz http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-{en|cz|ce}.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 25 14:33:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06044; Fri, 25 Aug 95 14:33:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04141; Fri, 25 Aug 95 14:31:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04135; Fri, 25 Aug 95 14:31:15 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27908; Fri, 25 Aug 95 14:31:02 -0700 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 14:30:57 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jef Poskanzer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Does pine read all the mail into memory? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 25 Aug 1995, Jef Poskanzer wrote: > Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 19:08:07 GMT > From: Jef Poskanzer > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Does pine read all the mail into memory? > > I don't use pine myself, haven't done more than browse through > the man page. I'm a sysadmin on a public access system where it's > installed. One of our users has a 17meg mail file (he likes mailing > lists), and I've noticed that when he fires up pine he gets a ~25meg > process, we run out of memory and start swapping, and system performance > goes to hell. > > Is pine really reading the whole mail file into memory? Is there > a way to configure it to not do this? When using the default Berkeley (bezerk) mailbox format, Pine does indeed read the entire folder into memory. This can be avoided by switching to a format, such as Tenex, that only keeps an index in memory. See the Pine Technical Notes for more information. They can be found in the doc directory of the source distribution or at ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/tech-notes.txt |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 25 15:19:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08187; Fri, 25 Aug 95 15:19:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05109; Fri, 25 Aug 95 15:16:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05103; Fri, 25 Aug 95 15:16:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sm6zx-00038DC; Fri, 25 Aug 95 15:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mfsak@nmsu.edu (Ashwani Kumar) Subject: Latest Pine version? Date: 25 Aug 1995 20:59:43 GMT Message-Id: <41ldjv$det@bubba.NMSU.Edu> Hi... I am trying to find out if the latest Pine version is version 3.91? Is there any new version out there?. Thanks for any help... Ashwani. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 25 15:25:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08479; Fri, 25 Aug 95 15:25:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10578; Fri, 25 Aug 95 15:21:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10572; Fri, 25 Aug 95 15:21:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sm75X-00038HC; Fri, 25 Aug 95 15:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dc@freenet.ufl.edu (David J. Campbell Jr.) Subject: CrossPosting in PINE to More Than 3 Groups - Possible?? Date: 25 Aug 1995 21:45:05 GMT Message-Id: <41lg91$oe8@huron.eel.ufl.edu> would you please tell me how to crosspost to more than, say, four newsgroups in PINE? (I tried the "control R" command and pasting in my (6 or 8 newsgroups groups long list) under newsgroups, to no avail....) I sometimes need to post the same item to more than three or four groups - I can already post to three or so with no problem, but even when I use "control R" I can't manage to post to more than three newsgroups. What's the PINE "crosspost to" command? If it's totally impossible in PINE, can I use TIN to accomplish the samne goal of posting the same post to, say, six or eight groups at once? Thanks for your help! David -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 25 15:42:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09205; Fri, 25 Aug 95 15:42:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10955; Fri, 25 Aug 95 15:40:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10949; Fri, 25 Aug 95 15:40:21 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29909; Fri, 25 Aug 95 15:40:11 -0700 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 15:40:07 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "David J. Campbell Jr." Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: CrossPosting in PINE to More Than 3 Groups - Possible?? In-Reply-To: <41lg91$oe8@huron.eel.ufl.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine doesn't have any limit to the number of groups you can post to... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 25 Aug 1995, David J. Campbell Jr. wrote: > Date: 25 Aug 1995 21:45:05 GMT > From: David J. Campbell Jr. > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: CrossPosting in PINE to More Than 3 Groups - Possible?? > > would you please tell me how to crosspost to more than, say, four > newsgroups in PINE? > > (I tried the "control R" command and pasting in my (6 or 8 newsgroups groups > long list) under newsgroups, to no avail....) > > I sometimes need to post the same item to more than three or four groups - > I can already post to three or so with no problem, but even when I use > "control R" I can't manage to post to more than three newsgroups. What's > the PINE "crosspost to" command? If it's totally impossible in PINE, can I > use TIN to accomplish the samne goal of posting the same post to, say, six > or eight groups at once? > > Thanks for your help! > > David > > -- > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 25 16:00:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09865; Fri, 25 Aug 95 16:00:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05840; Fri, 25 Aug 95 15:56:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05834; Fri, 25 Aug 95 15:56:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sm7cI-00038DC; Fri, 25 Aug 95 15:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Does pine read all the mail into memory? Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 15:21:59 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 25 Aug 1995, David L Miller wrote: > On Fri, 25 Aug 1995, Jef Poskanzer wrote: > > Is pine really reading the whole mail file into memory? Is there > > a way to configure it to not do this? > When using the default Berkeley (bezerk) mailbox format, Pine does > indeed read the entire folder into memory. This can be avoided by > switching to a format, such as Tenex, that only keeps an index in > memory. To elaborate on David's answer, in the standard Unix mailbox format (what the Pine source code calls "bezerk" for hysterical reasons), various overhead data (such as message status flags, unique identifiers, etc.) are stored in additional header lines in the header of the message. These are variable-width fields, and aren't present at all when a message is initially delivered. In order to update this data, there is a Scylla vs. Charybdis decision: Scylla: copy the mail file to a scratch file, then copy back with the update Charybdis: read the mail file into an in-memory snapshot, then dump out updates as necessary The reason why you can't just overwrite is that messages may grow when their status changes. Many mailers choose to fall into the clutches of 6-headed Sylla. Well, here at UW we have disk quotas and users who are regularly at the edge of their quota, so Pine chose the whirlpool of Charybdis instead. This works well with ordinary student users, but as you noted it does fall apart with a 17-megabyte godzilla mailbox. The Tenex format mentioned by David uses pre-allocated fixed-width fields, so editing in place with random-access update-mode I/O can work. Thus, it only needs to keep an index in memory. However, even this has hazards; update mode I/O doesn't work well over NFS. However, if you use IMAP for remote access and avoid NFS, you don't have this problem; and Tenex format does work very well with large mail files. Apologies to those who are not up on Greek mythology. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 25 21:50:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18765; Fri, 25 Aug 95 21:50:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16871; Fri, 25 Aug 95 21:47:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16865; Fri, 25 Aug 95 21:47:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0smD4L-00038DC; Fri, 25 Aug 95 21:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: asabaker@netcom.com (GiSH) Subject: MkPgP with pine Message-Id: Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 03:57:10 GMT ok well i have gotten mkpgp and pine to work together. i can encode files and decode messages recieved. but i still cant get it to attach my pub ring and say --PgP signed messag-- l8r GiSH -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 25 22:15:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19388; Fri, 25 Aug 95 22:15:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17291; Fri, 25 Aug 95 22:13:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ids.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17285; Fri, 25 Aug 95 22:13:05 -0700 Received: from conan.ids.net by ids.net with SMTP; Sat, 26 Aug 1995 1:10:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 01:09:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Rollins Reply-To: "Michael J. Rollins" To: David L Miller Cc: "John R. Violette" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply to, and followup lines? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Mr. Miller: Great! Your suggestion seems to work! Please send me a reply via my World account - it will be autoforwarded to this one - in order to test this. Thanks! BTW, is there also a way for me to add in a followup line on the same "Customized Headers =" line? If so, then please do let me know how. Thanks again! Sincerely, Mike Rollins mjr@conan.ids.net Speaking only for myself. On Thu, 24 Aug 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > Here is a clip from the Setup/Config for one of my accounts: > > customized-hdrs = Reply-To: > > This makes the header available if you press ^R in the composer (with > the cursor in the headers) but does not include it in the outgoing > message unless you type in a value... > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Wed, 23 Aug 1995, Mike Rollins wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 20:21:50 -0400 (EDT) > > From: Mike Rollins > > To: David L Miller > > Cc: "John R. Violette" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > Subject: Re: Reply to, and followup lines? > > > > > > On Wed, 23 Aug 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 23 Aug 1995, John R. Violette wrote: > > > > > > > Go to the Main Menu and choose Setup. Then choose Config. Go to the > > > > Customized Headers and Select A to add one of the form > > > > 'Reply-To: mjr@conan.ids.net'. > > > > > > > > This will work for Pine 3.91 but I don't know about earlier versions. > > > > > > > > > > It'll work in 3.90 too, but note that Pine 3.90 has some serious > > > addressbook bugs (you can lose the whole thing) and anyone still using > > > it should convince their sysadmins to upgrade ASAP... > > > > > > > Dear People: > > > > > > Appended below, is my first attempt to insert a "reply-to" > > line as suggested. I also attempted to insert such a line without > > any sort of quotes, plus with two "`" marks, and with two regular > > quote marks. All of these efforts were unsuccessful. Even if I > > had experienced success, such a procedure would not be the best > > for me, because it would not permit me to easily use a "reply-to" > > line only on some of my E-Mail. Thank you anyway, for trying to > > assist me with this problem. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Mike Rollins > > > > mjr@conan.ids.net > > > > > > > > > From mjr@conan.ids.net > > > Received: from ids.net (ids.net [155.212.1.2]) by conan.ids.net > > > (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA03940 for ; > > > Wed, 23 Aug 1995 14:01:55 -0400 > > > Received: from conan.ids.net by ids.net with SMTP; > > > Wed, 23 Aug 1995 14:02:44 -0400 (EDT) > > > Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 14:01:53 -0400 (EDT) > > > From: Mike Rollins > > > To: mjr@conan.ids.net > > > Subject: Testing what happens with this > > > Message-ID: > > > 'Reply-to: mjr@conan.ids.net' > > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > > > > > > > Will this "reply-To line work? > > > > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 25 22:42:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20147; Fri, 25 Aug 95 22:42:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10890; Fri, 25 Aug 95 22:38:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Athena.McRCIM.McGill.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10884; Fri, 25 Aug 95 22:38:48 -0700 Received: from Chart.McRCIM.McGill.EDU by Athena.McRCIM.McGill.EDU (8.6.10) with ESMTP id <199508260538.BAA21461@Athena.McRCIM.McGill.EDU>; Sat, 26 Aug 1995 01:38:46 -0400 Received: from noether.UUCP by Chart.McRCIM.McGill.EDU with UUCP (8.6.10//ident-1.0) id BAA28960; Sat, 26 Aug 1995 01:38:46 -0400 Received: by noether.nyongwa.montreal.qc.ca (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0smCG4-0000UGC; Fri, 25 Aug 95 23:50 EDT Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 23:50:11 -0400 (EDT) From: denis stgeorges To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 26 07:15:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00626; Sat, 26 Aug 95 07:15:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15913; Sat, 26 Aug 95 07:10:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from perseus.peganet.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15907; Sat, 26 Aug 95 07:10:39 -0700 Received: from peg1-ts11.peganet.com (peg1-ts11.peganet.com [204.77.74.211]) by perseus.peganet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA03231 for ; Sat, 26 Aug 1995 10:09:43 -0500 Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 10:09:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199508261509.KAA03231@perseus.peganet.com> X-Sender: rsalazar@peganet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rsalazar@peganet.com (Ruben Dario Salazar) Subject: unsubscribe X-Mailer: ============================================================ "The Peoples Network for those with a Passion to Succeed" 800-871-MORE ( Toll-Free Information) (941) 339-9235 (Recorded Information) URL= http://www.shore.net/~adfx/513.html / Email= rsalazar@peganet.com ============================================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 26 15:47:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08369; Sat, 26 Aug 95 15:47:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00254; Sat, 26 Aug 95 15:44:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00248; Sat, 26 Aug 95 15:44:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0smTx6-00038DC; Sat, 26 Aug 95 15:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: keithr@primenet.com (Keith Rowland) Subject: Re: POP3 Support Date: 26 Aug 1995 19:19:07 GMT Message-Id: <41ns3b$76d@nnrp3.primenet.com> References: <419ucp$92p@bell.ukonline.co.uk> As you may recall, alex.schuilenburg@ukonline.co.uk posted this: > Does anyone know if there are any plans to put POP3 > support into pine? Under Linux, I use a program called popmail to get my mail from my ISP via POP3 and put it into a file on my local system. Then I use PINE to get and read it from there. I am sure it is available for other unixes. Maybe this is what you need. Best Regards, Keith... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for an easy flat-file database manager for Linux? Try SS-File Database Manager for Linux - http://www.primenet.com/~keithr/ssfile/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 26 16:27:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08854; Sat, 26 Aug 95 16:27:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21054; Sat, 26 Aug 95 16:25:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21048; Sat, 26 Aug 95 16:25:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0smUXu-00038DC; Sat, 26 Aug 95 16:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) Subject: editing mail Date: 26 Aug 1995 21:24:02 GMT Message-Id: <41o3di$lfq@nnrp1.primenet.com> Is there a way I can edit *within Pine* an existing email received? I subscribe to various listerv digests and upon reading, I would like to be able to edit out from the digest that which I don't want to keep. I've tried various approaches, all seem a workaround or kludgy rather than a direct command to call up an editor within Pine on the existing email. Suggestions? Bob From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 26 17:26:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09570; Sat, 26 Aug 95 17:26:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01335; Sat, 26 Aug 95 17:24:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01329; Sat, 26 Aug 95 17:24:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0smVUk-00038DC; Sat, 26 Aug 95 17:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harvey Loria Subject: How do I delete exported files? Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 17:51:44 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When using pine, I type E to export files, then I download them. Now, how do I delete the files that have been exported? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 26 22:47:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14161; Sat, 26 Aug 95 22:47:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24508; Sat, 26 Aug 95 22:44:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24502; Sat, 26 Aug 95 22:44:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0smaV5-00038DC; Sat, 26 Aug 95 22:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: How do I delete exported files? Date: 27 Aug 1995 05:04:14 GMT Message-Id: <41ouce$1qf@grape.epix.net> References: Harvey Loria (hloria@freenet.calgary.ab.ca) wrote: : When using pine, I type E to export files, then I download them. Now, how : do I delete the files that have been exported? Go back to the PINE folder (inbox or sent-mail or saved-messages or whatevever) and (D)elete them. (E)xporting does not delete the mail message from pine, it copies it to your home directory on your server. Now when you say yer' downloading them I assume you're on a pc dialed into a unix server, and the download puts it on your pc's harddrive ??? If so, you have one further step ... delete the Exported file from your home (or mail?) directory on your unix server. ReReading this, I realise it's probably confusing, so post a (f)ollowup or feel free to e-mail me if you need more help. I do DOS & Windowzzz, but apples are kinda fruity. Really, it's not that difficult but ya gotta be more specific about your hardware, software, connection, etc. G'Day. /\ /~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 26 22:52:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14225; Sat, 26 Aug 95 22:52:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24555; Sat, 26 Aug 95 22:49:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24549; Sat, 26 Aug 95 22:49:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0smaZy-00038MC; Sat, 26 Aug 95 22:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccpsm@mucc.mahidol.ac.th (Prem Sumetpong - CC) Subject: pine locking mechanism Date: 26 Aug 1995 16:21:41 GMT Message-Id: <41nhml$d0n@mars.mahidol.ac.th> hello ! we use nfs mounted mailboxes and procmail as teh local delivery agent. I read that to enable lossless mail handling, MTA and MUA should have same locking (at least one) mechanism. My procmail is set to only dot locking. How do I do same for pine ?? my system is a DGUX Thankyou Prem From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 26 22:52:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14241; Sat, 26 Aug 95 22:52:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05109; Sat, 26 Aug 95 22:49:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05103; Sat, 26 Aug 95 22:49:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0smaZy-00038HC; Sat, 26 Aug 95 22:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: weave@hopi.dtcc.edu (Ken Weaverling) Subject: Re: Running on DG/UX Date: 27 Aug 1995 00:18:07 -0400 Message-Id: <41orlv$qc5@hopi.dtcc.edu> References: <41bhm5$5s0@saucer.inet-serv.com> In article <41bhm5$5s0@saucer.inet-serv.com>, wrote: >Will Pine 3.91 work on a Data General 8500 AViion running >DG/UX v.5.4R3.10? If so what driver is required? Yes build d-g You may have to add #include to the os-d-g.c file (from my own memory, been a while) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 27 00:02:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15268; Sun, 27 Aug 95 00:02:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05885; Sun, 27 Aug 95 00:00:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from homer15.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05879; Sun, 27 Aug 95 00:00:15 -0700 Received: by homer15.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA36511; Sun, 27 Aug 95 00:00:12 -0700 X-Sender: dlm@homer15.u.washington.edu Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 00:00:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "David L. Miller" To: "Michael J. Rollins" Cc: David L Miller , "John R. Violette" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply to, and followup lines? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The basic procedure is the same for any header you want to add.... -- David L. Miller /|\ Not everything that can be counted counts; dlm@u.washington.edu < + > and not everything counts that can be \|/ counted. -- A. Einstein On Sat, 26 Aug 1995, Mike Rollins wrote: > Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 01:09:55 -0400 (EDT) > From: Mike Rollins > To: David L Miller > Cc: "John R. Violette" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Reply to, and followup lines? > > > > > Dear Mr. Miller: > > > Great! Your suggestion seems to work! Please send me > a reply via my World account - it will be autoforwarded to this > one - in order to test this. Thanks! > > BTW, is there also a way for me to add in a followup > line on the same "Customized Headers =" line? If so, then > please do let me know how. Thanks again! > > > Sincerely, > > Mike Rollins > mjr@conan.ids.net > Speaking only for myself. > > > On Thu, 24 Aug 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > > > Here is a clip from the Setup/Config for one of my accounts: > > > > customized-hdrs = Reply-To: > > > > This makes the header available if you press ^R in the composer (with > > the cursor in the headers) but does not include it in the outgoing > > message unless you type in a value... > > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > > > On Wed, 23 Aug 1995, Mike Rollins wrote: > > > > > Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 20:21:50 -0400 (EDT) > > > From: Mike Rollins > > > To: David L Miller > > > Cc: "John R. Violette" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > > Subject: Re: Reply to, and followup lines? > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 23 Aug 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, 23 Aug 1995, John R. Violette wrote: > > > > > > > > > Go to the Main Menu and choose Setup. Then choose Config. Go to the > > > > > Customized Headers and Select A to add one of the form > > > > > 'Reply-To: mjr@conan.ids.net'. > > > > > > > > > > This will work for Pine 3.91 but I don't know about earlier versions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > It'll work in 3.90 too, but note that Pine 3.90 has some serious > > > > addressbook bugs (you can lose the whole thing) and anyone still using > > > > it should convince their sysadmins to upgrade ASAP... > > > > > > > > > > Dear People: > > > > > > > > > Appended below, is my first attempt to insert a "reply-to" > > > line as suggested. I also attempted to insert such a line without > > > any sort of quotes, plus with two "`" marks, and with two regular > > > quote marks. All of these efforts were unsuccessful. Even if I > > > had experienced success, such a procedure would not be the best > > > for me, because it would not permit me to easily use a "reply-to" > > > line only on some of my E-Mail. Thank you anyway, for trying to > > > assist me with this problem. > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Mike Rollins > > > > > > mjr@conan.ids.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > From mjr@conan.ids.net > > > > Received: from ids.net (ids.net [155.212.1.2]) by conan.ids.net > > > > (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA03940 for ; > > > > Wed, 23 Aug 1995 14:01:55 -0400 > > > > Received: from conan.ids.net by ids.net with SMTP; > > > > Wed, 23 Aug 1995 14:02:44 -0400 (EDT) > > > > Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 14:01:53 -0400 (EDT) > > > > From: Mike Rollins > > > > To: mjr@conan.ids.net > > > > Subject: Testing what happens with this > > > > Message-ID: > > > > 'Reply-to: mjr@conan.ids.net' > > > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > > > > > > > > > > Will this "reply-To line work? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 27 04:02:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19985; Sun, 27 Aug 95 04:02:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08656; Sun, 27 Aug 95 04:00:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08648; Sun, 27 Aug 95 04:00:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0smfPv-00038DC; Sun, 27 Aug 95 03:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mzeip@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu (Lippman) Subject: no space on device? Date: 27 Aug 95 10:11:51 GMT Message-Id: Greetings, Pine on my linux system is giving me the error upon start-up that it can't write /home/username/.pinerc: no space on device. I have not quotas enabled, and can write to the drive just fine (actually, pine is dumping a pinerc23809 file in my directory everytime I run pine). It just started doing this; the only change I've made to the system is that I reconfigured sendmail. Any idea what's up? Thanks, David Lippman, mzeip@cc.wwu.edu, iscs@az.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 27 05:18:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22098; Sun, 27 Aug 95 05:18:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28415; Sun, 27 Aug 95 05:15:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28409; Sun, 27 Aug 95 05:15:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0smgbY-00038DC; Sun, 27 Aug 95 05:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sfh@cais.com (Bobby Booey) Subject: PINE 3.91...freezing up! Date: 27 Aug 1995 11:01:32 GMT Message-Id: <41pjac$u6c@zippy.cais.net> Help! Everytime I hit a wrong command key in Pine 3.91 it freezes up and is impossible to get out of! Something in my config needs changed. Any help is greatly appreciated, Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 27 05:57:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22702; Sun, 27 Aug 95 05:57:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28751; Sun, 27 Aug 95 05:55:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from galactica.galactica.it by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28745; Sun, 27 Aug 95 05:55:00 -0700 Received: from localhost (slip@[151.99.164.2]) by galactica.galactica.it (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA07934; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 14:43:32 +0200 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 14:51:53 +0000 () From: Stanley Tomshinsky X-Sender: stom@localhost To: Bobby Booey Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE 3.91...freezing up! In-Reply-To: <41pjac$u6c@zippy.cais.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 27 Aug 1995, Bobby Booey wrote: > Help! > > Everytime I hit a wrong command key in Pine 3.91 it > freezes up and is impossible to get out of! > Something in my config needs changed. > Any help is greatly appreciated, Thanks. It happens to me sometimes that 3.91 freezes...when I try to delete from an external folder and get a "cannot access". I don't know if it is the fault of Pine or my provider? http://www.galactica.it/on_the_way/indice-i.html stom@galactica.it -------------------------------------------------------------------- Stanley Tomshinsky via Fiori Chiari 20 Milano 20121 Italia From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 27 06:28:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22988; Sun, 27 Aug 95 06:28:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10529; Sun, 27 Aug 95 06:25:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10523; Sun, 27 Aug 95 06:25:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0smhfJ-00038DC; Sun, 27 Aug 95 06:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jcw@skyking.com (J.C. Webber III) Subject: Re: Pine vs Elm Message-Id: <1995Aug27.103134.26626@skyking.com> References: <40jjib$k6s@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <40l1v5$dr3@nyheter.chalmers.se> <40v3dv$mdc@wup-gate.wup.de> <41110b$gd2@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <411kdh$mfi@net.auckland.ac.nz> <41866u$o58@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <41b2uq$job@news1.wolfe.net> <41f6l9$9sa@wup-gate.wup.de> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 10:31:34 GMT In <41f6l9$9sa@wup-gate.wup.de> andreas@wup.de (Andreas Klemm) writes: >I'd agree, if pine had > - pgp support > - a switch to turn off encoding mails with quoted_printable > - better command handling. I'm much faster with elm. > - the feature "alias current message" I've checked the FM, but I can't find a reverence to "alias current message". What command invokes this feature and what does it accomplish? Why would someone want to alias a message? What does it mean to alias a message? thx... -- J.C. Webber III jcw@mti.sgi.com (work) jcw@jumper.mti.sgi.com (home) "Comparing Dos to UNIX is like comparing a mix-master to a chef's kitchen" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 27 13:29:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29073; Sun, 27 Aug 95 13:29:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02914; Sun, 27 Aug 95 13:22:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02908; Sun, 27 Aug 95 13:22:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0smo8P-00038OC; Sun, 27 Aug 95 13:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roeberr@ksu.ksu.edu (Rodney B. Roeber) Subject: ATT 3B2 RISC port available? Date: 27 Aug 1995 14:40:37 -0500 Message-Id: <41qhnl$r2u@abc.ksu.ksu.edu> I've tried installing Pine using the sv4 makefile but get an error. The error states an incompatible declaration for gethostid in c-client/osdep.h line 84. This line delcares: long gethostid(). I can't find where this would be a problem. Can anyone provide a working makefile or at least pointers on where to go from here? PICO seemed to compile fine but I have not used it yet. Thanks. Rod From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 27 15:21:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01020; Sun, 27 Aug 95 15:21:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16518; Sun, 27 Aug 95 15:18:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16512; Sun, 27 Aug 95 15:18:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0smpvN-00038OC; Sun, 27 Aug 95 15:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: qq11@liverpool.ac.uk (Alan Thew) Subject: Re: IMAP & sun-mailtool Message-Id: References: <40l792$9k6@helka.iif.hu> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 12:32:05 GMT According to Andy Behrens : >On 13 Aug 1995 ivan.szanto@dataware.hu wrote: >> I use both IMAP & sun-mailtool. Sometimes when I receive a message >> sent with mailtool and I read it with IMAP, it will be separated in >> 2 or more parts. > . . . . . >> Is this a known compatibility problem? Is there a fix for it? >> I tried Keith Moore's sun-to-mime program to resolve this problem, >> but it didn't work. > >The problem is that Sun has chosen a slightly non-standard format for >their mailboxes. Instead of just marking the beginning of a new >message with a line beginning with "From ", they use the "From " line >together with the character-count contained in the Content-Length: >line. > >Because Sun uses this format, they allow mail messages that contain >"From " as the first 5 characters on a line. Sun-supplied mail readers >(like Mailtool) know that these lines are part of the message, but >other programs (like Pine) do not. > >Fortunately, the solution is simple. If, as I suspect, you're on a >Solaris system, just edit the /etc/mail/sendmail.cf file and change the >line > > Mlocal, P=/bin/mail, F=flsSDFMmnP, S=10, R=20, A=mail -d $u >to > Mlocal, P=/bin/mail, F=EflsSDFMmnP, S=10, R=20, A=mail -d $u > What does mailtool do now since the content-length will have changed? Is there any effect at all? Thanks. -- Alan Thew alan.thew@liv.ac.uk ...!uknet!liv!alan.thew Tel: +44 151 794-4497 University of Liverpool, Computing Services Fax: +44 151 794-4442 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 27 17:06:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02511; Sun, 27 Aug 95 17:06:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04980; Sun, 27 Aug 95 17:03:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04972; Sun, 27 Aug 95 17:03:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0smrdV-00038OC; Sun, 27 Aug 95 17:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: helpme95@ix.netcom.com Message-Id: <-41pn0f$btl@ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> Control: cancel <41pn0f$btl@ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <41pn0f$btl@ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 22:50:05 GMT cancel <41pn0f$btl@ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 27 22:21:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07564; Sun, 27 Aug 95 22:21:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21666; Sun, 27 Aug 95 22:15:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21660; Sun, 27 Aug 95 22:15:22 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 28 Aug 95 13:12:54 +0800 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 13:12:54 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Pine Info Subject: Response to Worldtalk Comparison (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I was a pleasure meeting you in Melbourne. Below is the text of the document we discussed. If you have any questions, just let me know. Hope to see you at the next AOEMA metting. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:23:55 -0500 From: Grant M. Erickson To: MHSales@cdc.com Subject: Response to Worldtalk Comparison TO: MHSales FROM: Grant Erickson DATE: August 16, 1995 SUBJECT: Response to Worldtalk Comparison SUMMARY: -------- The Worldtalk fax contains a mixture of distortions and some inaccurate statements. CDS will respond to both comments made about CDS and comments made about Worldtalk where applicable. It is our business practice not to degrade another vendor's solution, but point out the advantages of CDS's solution. Independent reviews of CDS's Messaging Solution indicate CDS leads the industry with high quality, standards-based technology and implementations. DISCUSSION: ----------- On Monday, August 11, 1995 we received a fax from a potential Control Data client comparing Mail*Hub and Worldtalk. This comparison was originally generated by Worldtalk Corporation and given to the client during a competitive bid process. What follows in the first subsection is a verbatim copy of that comparison. In the second subsection, Control Data responds to the comparison. Worldtalk's Comparison ---------------------- CONTROL DATA SYSTEMS AND WORLDTALK COMPARISON Product vs. Services: CDS: Mostly services. CDS services are required for an extended length of time. WT: Mostly product. X.400 Standard: CDS: ISODE, not very flexible o Limited routing capabilities o Slow WT: HP X.400 o Commercial implementation o Native Stack (OSI and RFC1006 over TCP/IP) X.500: CDS: QUIPU o Lack of 93 support o Non Commercial implementation o Weak on security o Non scalable (Database is loaded in memory) WT: ICL with Worldtalk Extensions o Commercial Implementation o Scalable (Multi Database support) o Strong on Security and Access Control o 1993 Support Customization Requirements: CDS: Heavy, results in unavoidable dependence on CDS services WT: Light ELECTRONIC MAIL GATEWAYS Addressing: CDS: CDS's gateways do not provide full transparency to the end user. Addressing is not native. User will notice a difference in addressing when sending mail to recipients behind the Mail*Hub switch. The address reflects the address form necessary on the recipient's mail system. WT: Worldtalk's Address Manager and Directory Synchronization guarantee full address transparency to end users. Users only see aliases which conforms to both the addressing format of their native mail systems and the naming standard for their implementation. The presence of Worldtalk is hidden from end users. Address Resolution: CDS: CDS gateways use X.500 directly to resolve LAN Addressing to X.400 or SMTP. LAN addressing is not Hierarchical and resolving these addresses requires a slow operation, a Yellow Page search with base object root in X.500. WT: Worldtalk uses a Cache Directory exported from X.500 and indexed on X.400 O/R Names and LAN Addresses. This guarantees fast response times for address resolution. Attachments: CDS: Attachment [sic] are not always fully preserved. WT: Worldtalk preserves all attachments and preserves names and attributes. FTAM Body Part: CDS: Does not support. Any File Attribute Preservation is proprietary and therefore is NOT interoperable with other X.400 implementations. WT: Fully supported. File Attribute Preservation is end-tend with other systems that support the FTAM Body Part. In addition, Worldtalk can downgrade Body Part 15 attachments to Body Part 14, enabling users connected to a 1984 based MTA to receive attachments even if they were originally encoded in Body Part 15 Throughput: CDS: End-to-end CDS is 40% slower. WT: Benchmarks at greater than 5,000 messages per hour. Gateway Technology: CDS: Utilizes technology from a variety of sources WT: Tightly and uniformly integrated technology from one source. DIRECTORY SYNCHRONIZATION Productization: CDS: Directory Synchronization is not fully productized. Makes extensive use of shell scripts. Significant customization is REQUIRED after the installation of Directory Synchronization gateways. WT: Robust, fully productized with default configuration for ease of installation and implementation. Management: CDS: Difficult as it requires manually editing shell scripts and configuration files. WT: Worldtalk Directory Synchronization is managed entirely from one central management utility. Profile Mapping Rules: CDS: Directory Synchronization mapping rules are not flexible and require significant customization. WT: Worldtalk provides very flexible mapping rules that are fully productized. Scheduling: CDS: Directory Synchronization relies on UNIX scheduling (Cron). WT: Directory Synchronization fully integrated into product. Directory Filter CDS: Limited, provided via shell scripts. WT: Import and Export filtering, configurable individually for each Directory Synchronization Unit. Complete control of flow of information. Reporting: CDS: Limited, provided via shell scripts. WT: Report creates report every time synchronization is run. Full and incremental synchronization: CDS: Full synchronization only. Incremental synchronization is not supported from Mail*Hub to mail systems. WT: Worldtalk provides full synchronization, incremental synchronization, and resynchronization. Transaction Log: CDS: None WT: Fully supported Naming Conventions: CDS: Limited WT: Fully flexible due to strong Address Management cc:Mail: CDS: All users behind Mail*Hub appear all in the same location. This means that the locality of the recipient is not preserved. WT: Worldtalk supports the registration of Downstream Post Offices as native cc:Mail Post Offices. All other mail system Post Offices appear as native cc:Mail post offices to all cc:Mail users. Lotus Notes: CDS: CDS only supports a single Name and Address Book. WT: Worldtalk supports alternate Name and Address Books, including the creation of new Name and Address Books for users behind the Worldtalk Switch. QuickMail: CDS: Does not support QuickMail Directory Synchronization. WT: QuickMail Directory Synchronization fully supported. Microsoft Mail for PC Networks: CDS: Synchronizes with standard template only. WT: Synchronizes standard and customized templates. X.500 OPEN DIRECTORY SERVICES Underlying Database: CDS: The CDS X.500 database is currently loaded to Memory. There is no support for a commercial database or a relational database. This means that the product is not scalable and is not reliable. Processes can't share the database. WT: Worldtalk provides a relational database under X.500 and works with SQL based commercial databases as well. 1993 Shadowing: CDS: CDS does not support shadowing based on the 1993 DISP standard. Support is not scheduled till [sic] the second Quarter of 1996. WT: Worldtalk fully supports 1993 shadowing and replication based on the DISP standard. Interoperability has been conducted with the only other vendor that fully supports DISP (Nexor) X.509: Security and Authentication: CDS: Does not support WT: Fully supported DSA Scalability: CDS: Limited due to the fact that DSA is stored in memory, 50,000 practical limit. WT: The DSA has been used with around 200,000 entries, and shows no signs of limitation. Performance: CDS: Slow WT: Worldtalk's DSA is orders of magnitude faster than CDS on the same platform for the same operations and size of the database. Attribute search on same machine and database size: CDS: 4.8 seconds WT: 0.7 seconds Schema: CDS: Altered to add aliases for address resolution. The aliases are relevant to local mail servers and have no importance at the global level. WT: Default provided, user customizable. Administration: CDS: Edit files (Local management) WT: Windows Management Tool (Local and Remote Management) Control Data's Response ----------------------- GENERAL Product vs. Services: Control Data is a solutions provider. We offer the software, Mail*Hub; the hardware, Sun SPARC, HP 9000, IBM RS/6000, Sun on Intel, and Windows NT (future), and finally we offer the services and support. Worldtalk recently has attempted to portray themselves as integrators rather than gateway sellers in public relations material. X.400 Standard: Mail*Hub's X.400 is not ISODE based. It is an in-house developed technology that is fully 1992 revision compliant and offers performance in the tens of thousands of messages per hour. Mail*Hub also supports OSI over TCP/IP as dictated by RFC1006. In addition to compliance with these standards, our X.400 is compliant with RFC1801 which defines how X.400 should utilize X.500 for routing services. To the best of our knowledge, Worldtalk's X.400 backbone is only a 1988 revision and offers no RFC1801 compliance. X.500: Although Mail*Hub's X.500 was originally derived from ISODE QUIPU, it has been almost totally rewritten into a commercial product. The 1993 revision product is being developed entirely in-house. 1993 extensions are currently implemented in Mail*Hub v3.0 to be released in 4Q95. The X.500 directory is memory based and very fast and scalable. The University of Minnesota DSA has been at 150,000+ entries for over 3 years and the CGDS DSA is running with 250,000 entries. CDS has over 2.5M total users with that number growing every day. Worldtalk's X.500 product just began shipping recently. CDS's X.500 product has been market-proven for over four years. Customization Requirements: The beauty of Control Data's solution is our ability to customize. Mail*Hub is offered in a default configuration. From there, the client dictates what level of customization needs to be performed. This customization may be done by the client, by a third-party, or by Control Data's systems-integrators. E-MAIL GATEWAYS Addressing: Control Data's addressing is completely transparent. Mail*Hub utilizes X.400 preferred O/R names to map LAN-specific and non-unique addresses to enterprise wide LAN-style addresses. For example, to a MS Mail user all recipients look like MS Mail-style addresses, and to a SMTP user all recipients look like RFC821-style addresses. Address Resolution: Although CDS's LAN addressing scheme is not hierarchical, by storing LAN addresses as X.500 aliases and utilizing several levels of information caching, search times in the sub-second range have been attained. Searches do not have to occur at the base object root in X.500. Attachments: CDS fully supports binary attachments. The Document Conversion Manager (DCM) converts between X.400 attachments and MIME, audio formats, image formats, between character sets, downgrades X.400 from '92 to '88 to '84, and it converts among MacOS and DOS/Windows file formats via KEYpak translators. These translations are completely transparent to the user. In addition the DCM allows users to specify preferred conversion formats, therefore the recipient of the attachment is not bound to the format of the sender. In all cases, CDS high-speed gateways do preserve attachments between email systems. FTAM Body Part: X.400 FTAM Body Parts will be fully supported with Mail*Hub v3.0 in 4Q95. Compatibility with '88 and '84 X.400 sites will be maintained by automatic downgrades via integration with the DCM Throughput: Worldtalk's comment that CDS is "40% slower" is given without any benchmark specifications. Mail*Hub production installations have exhibited throughput of 20,000 messages per hour or greater. Benchmark environments have shown several times that performance. Gateway Technology: All Control Data gateways are designed in-house with the exception of our QuickMail gateway (Mail*Link from StarNine) and the SNADS engine from Linkage. The QuickMail gateway is being replaced with a CDS Gateway in 4Q95. Worldtalk offers no in-house support for IBM PROFS or SNADS or DEC's ALL-IN-1. These gateway's are only available from third-party vendors. DIRECTORY SYNCHRONIZATION Productization: The Mail*Hub suite is a professional, commercial product available in a default configuration. All aspects of Mail*Hub may be customized as dictated by the customer. This allows ease of integration with the customer's existing systems. This feature positively differentiates Mail*Hub from other products in its class. The use of PERL scripts allows customers to easily implement their own customizations if they so choose. Management: CDS offers a very robust set of management features. First, the Advanced Operations Manager (AOM) provides a central, GUI-based interface for the administration of the entire Mail*Hub suite. Directory synchronization procedures can be performed within AOM. Second, a majority of all configuration information is stored within the X.500 directory. Also of mention is Mail*Hub's interoperability with SNMP, HP OpenView, SunNet Manager and MADMAN-MIB. Again, scripts and configuration files are an integral part of the customization process. Intelligent defaults often make customization of these files unnecessary. Profile Mapping Rules: The highly customizable nature of CDS's directory synchronization greatly enhances flexibility. Nearly any field in a third-party mailer can be mapped to Mail*Hub. Reporting: Mail*Hub unquestionably supports reporting of directory synchronization events and errors. Full and incremental synchronization: Both full and incremental synchronization are supported between Mail*Hub and its supported mail systems. Worldtalk's use of the term "resynchronization" is arbitrary and is meaningless without a context. Transaction Log: Mail*Hub unquestionably supports transaction logs. We are running a number of managed services for large customers that produce very large transaction logs. Naming Conventions: Mail*Hub supports whatever naming conventions the customer deems necessary. Because LAN names and other mail aliases are stored in the X.500 directory, it is a simple matter to add or change an address name. cc:Mail: Worldtalk supports a more hierarchical LAN addressing scheme, however Mail*Hub's implementation has proven to be very efficient and equally capable. Mail*Hub has been used successfully in very large cc:Mail environments such as Unilever's 30,000+ users. Lotus Notes: Mail*Hub can add and update users in a single pre-existing Name and Address book. In addition, Mail*Hub can export to multiple Name and Address books. It is true that Mail*Hub does not currently support the creation of new Name and Address Books. QuickMail: Mail*Hub fully supports QuickMail directory synchronization. Microsoft Mail for PC Networks: Mail*Hub fully supports standard and customized synchronization templates. X.500 OPEN DIRECTORY SERVICES Underlying Database: Mail*Hub's memory-based directory structure is reliable, scalable, and performance oriented. Production environments such as the University of Minnesota (150,000+ entries for 3+ years), Unilever with 50,000 entries and growing to 300,000 and a CGDS DSA with 250,000 entries prove that Mail*Hub's directory is reliable and scales well. The directory is also fully distributed, so multiple DSAs can share directory information. 1993 Shadowing: Mail*Hub supports Quipu-based shadowing in the current 1988 version. 1993 DISP support will be included in Mail*Hub v3.0 to be released 4Q95. X.509 Security and Authentication: Mail*Hub supports Quipu-based access controls in the current 1988 revision and 1993 standards-based support will be included in Mail*Hub v3.0. Mail*Hub currently supports and will continue to support X.509 certifications and authentication. DSA Scalability: A Mail*Hub production environment is currently running 200,000+ entries. Performance and Attribute search on same machine and database size: Worldtalk characterizes the Mail*Hub DSA as "slow" and claims their DSA is "orders of magnitude faster than CDS". However, their numbers support a difference of only 6.6x. In actuality, the Mail*Hub DSA supports 15-25 search operations per second, making Worldtalk 10.5x to 17.5x slower than Mail*Hub with respect to their stated time. Schema: Schema addition is a supported feature of X.500. By adding and storing address and routing information in the directory structure, Control Data is utilizing the directory to its fullest extent. Administration: Nearly 100% of all configuration information is maintained within the X.500 directory structure. The distributed nature of the directory allows for both centralized and/or distributed configuration and management. Management is available through a powerful, GUI-based Advanced Operations Manager. Directory tools such as osilookup, aXess500, and xlookup are all GUI-based. In addition, interoperability exists with SNMP and the HP OpenView management system. CONCLUSION: ----------- None of the accusations that have been made by Worldtalk are grounded in hard facts. Their comments on our support for Lotus' cc:Mail and Notes are the only items with even a thread of truth. Many of the accusations that have been made here appear to be due to competitive pressures Worldtalk has been experiencing with the CDS Messaging Solution. Again, our business practice is to point out CDS advantages and let independent analysts compare, in a non-competitive fashion, technology and delivery solutions between companies. ----- Control Data Systems, Inc. Grant M. Erickson Electronic Commerce, ARH293 gme1@cdsmail.cdc.com Mail*Hub Marketing (612)-482-4866 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 27 23:06:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08489; Sun, 27 Aug 95 23:06:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08776; Sun, 27 Aug 95 23:04:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08770; Sun, 27 Aug 95 23:04:07 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 28 Aug 95 14:01:31 +0800 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 14:01:31 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Pine Info Subject: Apology..... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, It seems my fingers are a bit too fast and I sent a message to the pine mailing list that obviously should have gone elsewhere. Since I sent it to the mailing list I don't know if there is a way it can be canceled from the comp.mail.pine newsgroup. If anyone knows how and can...please cancle it. Again, sorry for the error in sending. Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 28 02:52:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12785; Mon, 28 Aug 95 02:52:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25024; Mon, 28 Aug 95 02:48:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25018; Mon, 28 Aug 95 02:48:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sn0kz-00038OC; Mon, 28 Aug 95 02:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: krok@nostromo.fact.rhein-ruhr.de (Matthias Krok) Subject: Base64 decoder ??? Message-Id: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 10:26:24 GMT Hi ! Can anyone mail me the ftp-path to a unix-source for a decoder that decodes the base64-format ? doesn't need to be a complete program, just a code, that I can compiler under Linux. A DOS executable would also be good. Please mail me, because I'm not sure if this thread belongs in this newsgroup. (Dunno a better one) Thanx in advance. -- in diesem Sinne... Matthias PGP-Key available ! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ___ Why drink and drive Diese Nachricht besteht zu 100% aus when you can //// chlorfrei gebleichten, recyclebaren, (`-') smoke and fly ? 0(o o)0 gluecklichen Elektronen. -=-"-"-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-oOO-=(_)=-OOo-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-V+49-211-752754- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 28 04:24:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14938; Mon, 28 Aug 95 04:24:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11973; Mon, 28 Aug 95 04:19:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11967; Mon, 28 Aug 95 04:19:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sn29c-00038OC; Mon, 28 Aug 95 04:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tim Simpson Subject: Can pine thread news items correctly Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 11:44:48 GMT Message-Id: <280697411wnr@cddc.demon.co.uk> Hello, Sorry if this is a FAQ but when using pine to read news can it be setup to correctly thread news items ? -- best wishes Tim _______________________________________________________________________ Tim Simpson Dundee City Council Scotland Email tim@cddc.demon.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1382 434164 http://metro.turnpike.net/tim/index.html All views expressed are my own not my employers From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 28 09:31:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24308; Mon, 28 Aug 95 09:31:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01359; Mon, 28 Aug 95 09:15:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01353; Mon, 28 Aug 95 09:15:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sn6nb-00038MC; Mon, 28 Aug 95 09:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Can pine thread news items correctly Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 11:59:21 -0400 Message-Id: References: <280697411wnr@cddc.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <280697411wnr@cddc.demon.co.uk> On Mon, 28 Aug 1995, Tim Simpson wrote: | Hello, | Sorry if this is a FAQ but when using pine to read news can it be | setup to correctly thread news items ? | [...] If you are using Pine 3.91, from the Main Menu go into Setup and Configuration. Scroll down several screens to sort-key. There are various options there for how things are sorted when you see them. Experiment with some of those. OrderedSubject might give things by thread order. (The help screens should say.) Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 28 11:20:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29668; Mon, 28 Aug 95 11:20:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18730; Mon, 28 Aug 95 11:15:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18724; Mon, 28 Aug 95 11:15:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sn8gV-00038OC; Mon, 28 Aug 95 11:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Pine vs Elm Date: 28 Aug 95 17:39:30 GMT Message-Id: References: <40jjib$k6s@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <40l1v5$dr3@nyheter.chalmers.se> <40v3dv$mdc@wup-gate.wup.de> <41110b$gd2@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <411kdh$mfi@net.auckland.ac.nz> <41866u$o58@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <41b2uq$job@news1.wolfe.net> <41f6l9$9sa@wup-gate.wup.de> <1995Aug27.103134.26626@skyking.com> jcw@skyking.com (J.C. Webber III) writes: >I've checked the FM, but I can't find a reverence to "alias current message". >What command invokes this feature and what does it accomplish? >Why would someone want to alias a message? >What does it mean to alias a message? Well, it actually means "create an alias of the return address of the current mail". This is bound to "a a". The first "a" goes to the "Alias Menu", the second aliases the (return address of the) curent mail. This is described on the "ELM Alias FAQ" page: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/elm.alias.faq.html Sven Cc: jcw@skyking.com (J.C. Webber III) -- ELM - the screen oriented mail program. Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm ELM versions: Latest release: ELM 2.4 PL24 || Latest alpha: ELM 2.5a06 The "ELM Pages" - all about ELM on the World Wide Web: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ [950825] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 28 11:58:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01577; Mon, 28 Aug 95 11:58:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05062; Mon, 28 Aug 95 11:54:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05056; Mon, 28 Aug 95 11:54:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sn9GE-00038MC; Mon, 28 Aug 95 11:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdulaney@crl.com (John Dulaney) Subject: I come to you with Pine trouble... Date: 28 Aug 1995 18:10:58 GMT Message-Id: <41t0ri$qsm@nntp.crl.com> [ Article crossposted from crl.general ] [ Author was John Dulaney ] [ Posted on 28 Aug 1995 18:09:44 GMT ] Since Friday Pine : 1) Can't call up 344 E-mail, only the day's latest. 2) Won't allow me to reply. 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Cancel ? OOPSYesOOPSOOPS[Message cancell ed] PINE 3.91 MESSAGE TEXT Folder: INBOX Message 5 of 44 ALL Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 14:17:30 -0700 When I can cancel it reports something like: Can't open mail; too many open files I saved my .mailbox and at the prompt hit: Mail (with the cap M) It seemed to read that days E-mail, scrolling up. At the end I exited. Still it didn't work. I then saved my .pinerc, deleted .pinerc and reloaded .pinerc (making sure its ".pinerc" not _pinerc). Still the same. Using Elm it shows, also, just the days E-mail, not the 344 odd "lost". Trying to send in Elm doesn't produced at "sent mail" report and afterwards I don't get the proper flag it was sent, just an blank. CRL has tried to help but now seem stuck. HELP! John -- FREE SHAREWARE: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ DEEP DISCOUNT Soft-Hardware & Video: http://www.crl.com/~jdulaney/logic.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ DEEP DISCOUNT Air/Cruises On-Line: http://www.crl.com/~jdulaney/travmind.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ DULANEY FAMILY WEB PAGE - Italy, Photos, Art, Novels, Poetry, Children's Stories, Links to other Web Pages, Oddities, Nonsense and always growing: http://www.crl.com/~jdulaney/dulaney.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 28 12:25:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02593; Mon, 28 Aug 95 12:25:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20089; Mon, 28 Aug 95 12:18:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from news.pacifier.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20083; Mon, 28 Aug 95 12:18:19 -0700 Received: from bart by news.pacifier.com with uucp for cac.washington.edu!pine-info (Linux Smail3.1.29.1 #30) id m0sn9hc-0009BeC; Mon, 28 Aug 95 12:18 PDT Received: from bart.wfsg.com by bart.wfsg.com id aa22725; 28 Aug 95 12:10 PDT Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:10:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Hansen To: Pine Info List Subject: min-display-time Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I never heard back on this. Does anyone know how or if this keyword is supposed to work? I thought it was supposed to govern how long those messages are displayed on the bottom of the screen. You know the messages I'm talking about, the messages that tell you what you already know but it still gives you PLENTY of time to read??? (Just funnin') Really, I'd like to know where to put this in the .pinerc to make it work. I have added it to .pinerc but pine seems to wish it into the cornfield. Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dave "I just do phones and computers" Hansen dave@wfsg.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 28 12:31:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02773; Mon, 28 Aug 95 12:31:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20304; Mon, 28 Aug 95 12:29:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20298; Mon, 28 Aug 95 12:29:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sn9q7-00038HC; Mon, 28 Aug 95 12:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vgoradia@gftpd-mail.citicorp.com (Vaishali Goradia) Subject: can't read mimed text Date: 28 Aug 1995 18:17:37 GMT Message-Id: <41t181$dn5@spruce.citicorp.com> I'm new to pine and realize that an attached mimed doc can be saved and read using word, etc. But I have an email that sent a word doc as part of text, not attached. Therefore, part of the email msg is the mimed word doc. I've tried to save it and read it in word but that doesn't work. Is there any way I can extract it to view the doc? I've even tried to send it to myself as an attached doc but it attaches it as text, not as an application/file. thanks! -shali From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 28 12:45:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03683; Mon, 28 Aug 95 12:45:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06114; Mon, 28 Aug 95 12:42:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06108; Mon, 28 Aug 95 12:42:25 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14261; Mon, 28 Aug 95 12:42:23 -0700 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:42:19 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Dave Hansen Cc: Pine Info List Subject: Re: min-display-time In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I believe you are referring to a _source_ change someone suggested, not a .pinerc configuration change... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 28 Aug 1995, Dave Hansen wrote: > Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:10:38 -0700 (PDT) > From: Dave Hansen > To: Pine Info List > Subject: min-display-time > > I never heard back on this. Does anyone know how or if this keyword is > supposed to work? I thought it was supposed to govern how long those > messages are displayed on the bottom of the screen. You know the > messages I'm talking about, the messages that tell you what you already > know but it still gives you PLENTY of time to read??? (Just funnin') > > Really, I'd like to know where to put this in the .pinerc to make it > work. I have added it to .pinerc but pine seems to wish it into the > cornfield. > > Thanks. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Dave "I just do phones and computers" Hansen > dave@wfsg.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 28 12:53:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04260; Mon, 28 Aug 95 12:53:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06316; Mon, 28 Aug 95 12:49:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06310; Mon, 28 Aug 95 12:49:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snA52-00038DC; Mon, 28 Aug 95 12:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Subject: Re: Can pine thread news items correctly Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 13:55:37 -0400 Message-Id: References: <280697411wnr@cddc.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: OrderedSubj is what I use, and I consider that proper threading. It still prompts me on whether I want to _really_ post or not, so I'm still looking for help on that one. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma NeXT 3.2 m68k MIME, and NeXTMail OK Another convert to the Z-Shell "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." "I see your WinDows(tm) and I want to paint them black...." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 28 13:13:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05699; Mon, 28 Aug 95 13:13:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21239; Mon, 28 Aug 95 13:09:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21233; Mon, 28 Aug 95 13:09:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snAM2-00038DC; Mon, 28 Aug 95 13:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jas937@alfonso.usask.ca (Jason Anthony Stadnyk) Subject: Trying to change NNTP server with Pine... Date: 28 Aug 1995 19:32:26 GMT Message-Id: <41t5ka$c4q@tribune.usask.ca> Hi, I'm trying to get a different nntp newsserver using the nntp function in pine. It always says permission denied. How can I overcome this, and are there any nntp sites that will allow outside users. Thanx -- ----------------------------------------------------------- "Life is funny, sad, loveable, and everything else believeable. To bad they left out realistic and problematic." -Jason Stadnyk [Forward of: Those Crazy Days] ----------------------------------------------------------- Jason Stadnyk: ab376@broadway.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca jas937@alfresco.usask.ca ----------------------------------------------------------- http://broadway.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab376 / ------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 28 14:22:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09145; Mon, 28 Aug 95 14:22:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08611; Mon, 28 Aug 95 14:19:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08605; Mon, 28 Aug 95 14:19:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snBaN-00038DC; Mon, 28 Aug 95 14:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: krok@nostromo.fact.rhein-ruhr.de (Matthias Krok) Subject: Base64 decoder ??? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 19:29:40 GMT Hi ! Can anyone mail me the ftp-path to a unix-source for a decoder that decodes the base64-format ? doesn't need to be a complete program, just a code, that I can compiler under Linux. A DOS executable would also be good. Please mail me, because I'm not sure if this thread belongs in this newsgroup. (Dunno a better one) Thanx in advance. -- in diesem Sinne... Matthias PGP-Key available ! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ___ Why drink and drive Diese Nachricht besteht zu 100% aus when you can //// chlorfrei gebleichten, recyclebaren, (`-') smoke and fly ? 0(o o)0 gluecklichen Elektronen. -=-"-"-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-oOO-=(_)=-OOo-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-V+49-211-752754- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 28 15:01:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10803; Mon, 28 Aug 95 15:01:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23415; Mon, 28 Aug 95 14:49:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23409; Mon, 28 Aug 95 14:49:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snC0f-00038DC; Mon, 28 Aug 95 14:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stevin@u.washington.edu Subject: Other IMAP mail clients Date: 28 Aug 1995 21:23:05 GMT Message-Id: <41tc3p$g9o@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Does anyone know if there are any other IMAP mail clients in existance, or at least in development? Any info would be great Steve From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 28 15:52:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12906; Mon, 28 Aug 95 15:52:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10618; Mon, 28 Aug 95 15:49:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10612; Mon, 28 Aug 95 15:49:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snCrR-00038DC; Mon, 28 Aug 95 15:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mfoley@infinet.com (Mark Foley) Subject: MIME Question Date: 28 Aug 1995 22:12:47 GMT Message-Id: <41tf0v$8vn@horus.infinet.com> I just jumped into this newsgroup, so if a FAQ exists for this question, please let me know. I have set up pine for one of our users. Everything works. When she attaches binary files, they get MIME'd. The typical recipients don't have MIME or pine, but are on a Unix (Linux) system. Is there a command line program which decodes MIME files like uuencode/uudecode? I haven't been able to locate anything in the man pages or searching for mime* commands. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please email response even if you post a reply. Thanks - Mark Foley From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 28 15:52:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12944; Mon, 28 Aug 95 15:52:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24705; Mon, 28 Aug 95 15:49:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24699; Mon, 28 Aug 95 15:49:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snCuW-00038HC; Mon, 28 Aug 95 15:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Other IMAP mail clients Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 15:19:20 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <41tc3p$g9o@nntp5.u.washington.edu> On 28 Aug 1995 stevin@u.washington.edu wrote: > Does anyone know if there are any other IMAP mail clients in existance, or at > least in development? See ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.software From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 28 16:13:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13829; Mon, 28 Aug 95 16:13:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25288; Mon, 28 Aug 95 16:10:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25282; Mon, 28 Aug 95 16:10:51 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23929; Mon, 28 Aug 95 16:10:48 -0700 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 16:10:44 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Mark Foley Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: MIME Question In-Reply-To: <41tf0v$8vn@horus.infinet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The mpack program from CMU works very much like uuencode. It is available at ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/mpack/mpack-1.5-src.tar.Z |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 28 Aug 1995, Mark Foley wrote: > Date: 28 Aug 1995 22:12:47 GMT > From: Mark Foley > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: MIME Question > > > I just jumped into this newsgroup, so if a FAQ exists for this question, > please let me know. > > I have set up pine for one of our users. Everything works. When she > attaches binary files, they get MIME'd. The typical recipients don't > have MIME or pine, but are on a Unix (Linux) system. Is there a command > line program which decodes MIME files like uuencode/uudecode? I haven't > been able to locate anything in the man pages or searching for mime* > commands. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please email response even if you > post a reply. > > Thanks - Mark Foley > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 28 16:49:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15774; Mon, 28 Aug 95 16:49:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12057; Mon, 28 Aug 95 16:45:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12051; Mon, 28 Aug 95 16:45:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snDqJ-00038DC; Mon, 28 Aug 95 16:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Pine vs Elm Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 19:27:49 -0400 Message-Id: References: <40jjib$k6s@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <40l1v5$dr3@nyheter.chalmers.se> <40v3dv$mdc@wup-gate.wup.de> <41110b$gd2@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <411kdh$mfi@net.auckland.ac.nz> <41866u$o58@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <41b2uq$job@news1.wolfe.net> <41f6l9$9sa@wup-gate.wup.de> <1995Aug27.103134.26626@skyking.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 28 Aug 1995, Sven Guckes wrote (excerpted): | Well, it actually means | "create an alias of the return address of the current mail". To do this in Pine (at least, what I think you are wanting), press T when viewing a message to "T"ake the address into the addressbook. Pine will prompt you for the nickname you want to use and will give you the opportunity (if you want) to modify the fullname and the email address. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 28 17:23:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17427; Mon, 28 Aug 95 17:23:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12961; Mon, 28 Aug 95 17:20:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12955; Mon, 28 Aug 95 17:20:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snEK8-00038HC; Mon, 28 Aug 95 17:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ez055079@betty.ucdavis.edu (Elizabeth Mills) Subject: How Can I *&^%$@#-list Someone's Mail? Date: 28 Aug 1995 22:34:25 GMT Message-Id: <41tg9h$do4@mark.ucdavis.edu> is it possible to automatically bounce messages from a particular sender? i don't particularly want to receive mail from certain person and i'd like to just bounce it back to them w/ some sort of "your mail is being refused" message. i can't find anything in the pine program that does this. is there a way thru pine? or do i have to write a unix script to do the deed... let me know, please. email me at: eamills@ucdavis.edu -Beth ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>< "i said that i'd be good...but people love it when i'm bad." -Prince ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>< Bethie!!!, brat at large, can be reached at: eamills@betty.ucdavis.edu or ez055079@betty.ucdavis.edu **email me crap and i'll probably post it somewhere you wouldn't like** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 28 17:28:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17506; Mon, 28 Aug 95 17:28:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26883; Mon, 28 Aug 95 17:25:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26877; Mon, 28 Aug 95 17:25:02 -0700 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA01996; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 17:24:52 -0700 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 17:24:51 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" To: Mark Crispin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Other IMAP mail clients In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 28 Aug 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > On 28 Aug 1995 stevin@u.washington.edu wrote: > > Does anyone know if there are any other IMAP mail clients in existance, or at > > least in development? > > See ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.software The ATISMAIL is up to: ftp://oak.oakland.edu/SimTel/win3/winsock/atisml04.zip not 03 If anyone wants to make the change. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/---------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 28 18:32:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19259; Mon, 28 Aug 95 18:32:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27713; Mon, 28 Aug 95 18:30:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27707; Mon, 28 Aug 95 18:30:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snFNo-00038DC; Mon, 28 Aug 95 18:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dr@clark.net (David Richards) Subject: POPMail over the Web? Date: 28 Aug 1995 21:02:40 -0400 Message-Id: <41tovg$8ea@clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I recall running across a package that would allow the reading, writing and updating of a POPmail mailbox through a HTML interface. Is this package publically available anywhere? It seems that it would be fairly trivial to implement a program that would accept HTTP requests with authorization (username/password), use them to connect to a POPMail server, and return the results. Proper handling of MIME messages would be a plus. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 28 18:48:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19583; Mon, 28 Aug 95 18:48:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27900; Mon, 28 Aug 95 18:46:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.Hawaii.Edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27894; Mon, 28 Aug 95 18:46:40 -0700 Received: from uhunix4.its.Hawaii.Edu ([128.171.44.54]) by relay1.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <11355(4)>; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 15:45:15 -1000 Received: by uhunix4.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu id <215268>; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 15:44:33 -1000 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 15:44:33 -1000 From: Lee Ann M Lee To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Cutting text using NCSA telnet (Mac) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1915918321-626882377-809639189=:14973" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1915918321-626882377-809639189=:14973 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: We are using NCSA Telnet 2.6 for the Mac to login to sunos and solaris servers to access pine. When Cntl-^ is pressed, the number 6 appears on the screen, we don't get the "Mark Text" message. When I access pine through rlogin on a Sun workstaion the Cntl-^ key sequence works great. Does anyone know how to get the Cntl-^ key sequence to be recognized as Mark Text by pine? or should I be sending this message to NCSA? Thank you for your time. -Lee Ann M. Lee, UH ITS --1915918321-626882377-809639189=:14973-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 28 20:22:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21709; Mon, 28 Aug 95 20:22:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15791; Mon, 28 Aug 95 20:20:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15785; Mon, 28 Aug 95 20:20:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snHCr-00038DC; Mon, 28 Aug 95 20:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: craftman@iglou.iglou.com (Richard D. Meadows) Subject: Return Receipt w/PINE Message-Id: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 02:02:46 GMT I just grabbed the FAQ and this probably answered in it, but, on the off chance it isn't.... Can I put a line in my mail so that I get a note back saying the recipent has gotten the mail or opened the mail? Thanks Richard -- I'll Give Up The Internet -- When They Pry The Keyboard From My Cold Dead Fingers. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 28 22:53:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25069; Mon, 28 Aug 95 22:53:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00820; Mon, 28 Aug 95 22:50:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00814; Mon, 28 Aug 95 22:50:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snJV3-00038DC; Mon, 28 Aug 95 22:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: u9107543@muss.cis.mcmaster.ca () Subject: multiple user names Date: 28 Aug 1995 00:47:03 -0400 Message-Id: <41rho7$dnv@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA> How can I configure PINE to prompt me when I start it up to enter a user name? (my sister uses my account occasionally, and its a bit of a pain editing .pinerc all the time) I am sure this is possible, since a friend of mine had this set up in PINE. He has since lost the account, and he never did give me the copy of his .pinerc file I requested. He has no clue how it was set up either (I was like that when he got it, and was never the type to figure out how things work.) In any case, I'd appreciate any help with this. Thanks. -- _ _ _ THE \| |___ _ _ _ __ __ _| | A tear of petrol, is in your eye | .` / _ \ '_| ' \/ _` | | The handbrake, penetrates your thigh |_|\_\___/_| |_|_|_\__,_|_| Quick, lets make love, before you die From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 28 23:48:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26290; Mon, 28 Aug 95 23:48:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18892; Mon, 28 Aug 95 23:45:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18886; Mon, 28 Aug 95 23:45:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snKQK-00038DC; Mon, 28 Aug 95 23:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mlieberg@vespucci.iquest.com (Marlaina Lieberg) Subject: Pine & Usenet Mail, etc. Date: 29 Aug 1995 01:09:03 -0500 Message-Id: <41uatv$3mt@vespucci.iquest.com> I'd like to know if Pine can be used to read Usenet newsgroups and if so, how do I configure it? Also, I am a blind user, using a text-to-speech conversion package. Pine seems to haul the system cursor around the screen after each Pine command. This causes my screen access software to read the screen to me over and over. Is there a way to configure Pine so that it is more interactive with the system cursor as it really exists? For instance, if I am in the index feature, and I D msg 4, I will hear that I have deleted msg 4 before I her that I am on msg 5. If I am quoting a msg in a reply, I will hear, as I type my new reply, the quoted parts over and over. If I cursor down through the screen to edit, I will have to hit my next line then my key whhich reads my current line because the Pine cursor and the system cursor seem to meld at this point and my speech *thinks* we are on the previous line. It has been explained to me by my sys op that Pine grabs the keyboard and treats the machine of the user like a dumb terminal. My terminal has to stay smart@!! got any ideas? Thanks!! Touch And Know! If you can mail it, we can Braille it! Converting print-to-Braille, that all may Touch and Know! E-Mail mlieberg@iquest.com. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 29 02:15:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29514; Tue, 29 Aug 95 02:15:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03098; Tue, 29 Aug 95 02:13:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03092; Tue, 29 Aug 95 02:13:07 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 29 Aug 1995 10:12:05 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA20858; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 10:13:11 +0100 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 10:13:10 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Kenneth Manheimer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Unix Pine 3.91] Selection of message headers in regular display? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I think you'll find that Pine 3.91 already can do what you want through its normal Setup Configuration screen. In particular the variable "customized-hdrs" can be used to add custom heeaders such as "X-Organization:" along with, if you wish, a default value for each. However in order to see these headers or change their value you must use the Ctrl/R (Rich Header) command when composing your message. However there is also a variable called "default-composer-hdrs". This lists the headers you wish to be shown by default when composing a message (ie, the "normal" ones you see without having to type Ctrl/R). You can quite happily set up a list here to specify the headers you want shown as standard. Note that this list *overrides* the standard set, so if you want them to appear you must include them in your list. See the on-line help for this variable for details. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 18 Aug 1995, Kenneth Manheimer wrote: > Howdy. I've got another feature request. It stems from wanting to > see the 'X-organization:' header line in my regular message display. > Ie, not have to switch to full-headers to see this non-standard (but > typically present) header line. More generally, i think it would be > worthwhile to enable the user to specify optional headers which they > would like to have included among the select set. > > I looked through the code a bit, and it appears that the brief-header- > mode is restricted to a small, hard-coded selection of standard header > lines. (c-client/rfc822.c:rfc822_header() and > pine/mailview.c:format_envelope() seem to be the relevant routines.) > > Is there any way, currently, that i can extend that list at > the user level? If not, are there any plans to make this more user > configurable? I'd certainly like to be able to see the > X-Organization: line, when it is present, and i think there will be > other, similar needs. > > Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 29 02:23:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29602; Tue, 29 Aug 95 02:23:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03147; Tue, 29 Aug 95 02:19:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03141; Tue, 29 Aug 95 02:18:59 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 29 Aug 1995 10:18:01 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA21282; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 10:19:04 +0100 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 10:19:04 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Wil Rodriguez Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to disable users' ability to use config In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There are four very useful variables that can only be set in the systemwide "fixed" configuration file: disable-config-screen Prevents access to the configuration screen. disable-password-cmd Prevents people changing their password. disable-update-cmd Disables the "Update" command (useful for UNIX systems) disable-kblock-cmd Disables the "keyboard lock" feature of Pine. You may want to try some/all of them. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 21 Aug 1995, Wil Rodriguez wrote: > I read the FAQ, but I couldn't figure out how to set pine.conf.fixed so > that users could not make _any_ alterations via the setup|config options. > > Thanks! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 29 02:31:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29763; Tue, 29 Aug 95 02:31:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03230; Tue, 29 Aug 95 02:29:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03224; Tue, 29 Aug 95 02:29:16 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 29 Aug 1995 10:27:23 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA21808; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 10:28:28 +0100 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 10:28:28 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Lee Ann M Lee Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Cutting text using NCSA telnet (Mac) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thr problem lies not with Pine, but with the configuration of your Mac and NCSA Telnet. If I recall correctly you will probably find a "fixed controls" ("fc") keyboard file included with NCSA Telnet. If you install this in your System file and select it using the "Keyboard" control panel you will then be able to type the more obscure control sequences properly. Having done this you will find that Ctrl/Shift/6 generates the required Ctrl/^ just fine. (^ is Shift/6) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 28 Aug 1995, Lee Ann M Lee wrote: > We are using NCSA Telnet 2.6 for the Mac to login to sunos and solaris > servers to access pine. When Cntl-^ is pressed, the number 6 appears on > the screen, we don't get the "Mark Text" message. When I access pine > through rlogin on a Sun workstaion the Cntl-^ key sequence works great. > > Does anyone know how to get the Cntl-^ key sequence to be recognized as > Mark Text by pine? or should I be sending this message to NCSA? > > Thank you for your time. > > -Lee Ann M. Lee, UH ITS From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 29 04:03:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01630; Tue, 29 Aug 95 04:03:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22107; Tue, 29 Aug 95 04:00:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22101; Tue, 29 Aug 95 04:00:17 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 29 Aug 1995 11:59:11 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id LAA28235; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 11:59:52 +0100 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 11:59:52 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: mime/types file format query Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I realise this question is not (yet) directly relevant to Pine (Mailcap and/or mime.types support coming in a future release?), but in the hope that someone can help... >From various packages in the past I understood the format of entries in a mime.types file to look something like this: application/postscript .ai .ps .eps However we have justed installed WebForce (Netscape, WebMagic, etc) on our SGI systems and I have found that the mime.types file it installed looks like this: #--Netscape Communications Corporation MIME Information # Do not delete the above line. It is used to identify the file type. type=application/octet-stream exts=bin,exe icon=binary.xbm type=application/oda exts=oda type=application/pdf exts=pdf type=application/postscript exts=ai,eps,ps icon=text.xbm type=application/rtf exts=rtf Is the former simply a cut down version of the latter? Is the latter a newer/more fully specified version of the former? Do programs other an Netscape understand both formats? Does Netscape 1.1S understand the former? What about the forthocoming Pine? Basically, which should I be using? -- They look so different! Thanks for any advice you can give! Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 29 05:01:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03344; Tue, 29 Aug 95 05:01:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04841; Tue, 29 Aug 95 04:56:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04835; Tue, 29 Aug 95 04:56:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snPD6-00038HC; Tue, 29 Aug 95 04:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) Subject: Re: Return Receipt w/PINE Date: 29 Aug 1995 10:10:24 GMT Message-Id: <41up2g$i2s@nnrp3.primenet.com> References: Richard D. Meadows (craftman@iglou.iglou.com) wrote: >I just grabbed the FAQ and this probably answered in it, but, on the off >chance it isn't.... I don't understand that statement. Why post before checing the faq you have in front of you? >Can I put a line in my mail so that I get a note back saying the recipent >has gotten the mail or opened the mail? You can put lines (two) in your custom headers for return-receipts but consider a few things: Very few services send back return receipts. The receipt doesn't acknowledge anything other than the mail reached the service, not the recipient, and I'm not aware of any that acknowledge when the mail was read (though maybe an internal network setup might). Some services charge for Internet email usage so by auto requesting a return receipt, you may be causing the recipient to pay extra money so you could get a receipt (actually I believe any such service merely ignores return receipt requests via Internet anyway). In your pine configuration file, you'd add: customized-hdrs = Return-Receipt-To: Read-Receipt-To: Then when writing the email, execute Rich Headers (I think it's Ctrl-R on the menu) and fill in both of these fields with your email address or the email address you'd want the return receipt to go to. Remember, few services support this, and best be sure if the service does support it they don't charge extra for email lest you'll cause your recepient some additional charges. Bob From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 29 06:16:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04998; Tue, 29 Aug 95 06:16:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05694; Tue, 29 Aug 95 06:12:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05688; Tue, 29 Aug 95 06:12:17 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15918; Tue, 29 Aug 95 06:12:14 -0700 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 06:12:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: u9107543@muss.cis.mcmaster.ca Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: multiple user names In-Reply-To: <41rho7$dnv@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I believe that if the .pinerc entry "user-id" has the value of the null string, as opposed to no value at all, Pine will prompt each time. If you edit the pinerc directly, the null string is represented by a pair of double quotes. If you use the config screen, you can "Add" then hit RETURN immediately. Warning: this info is from memory from a long time ago... -teg On 28 Aug 1995 u9107543@muss.cis.mcmaster.ca wrote: > How can I configure PINE to prompt me when I start it up to enter a user > name? (my sister uses my account occasionally, and its a bit of a pain > editing .pinerc all the time) I am sure this is possible, since a friend > of mine had this set up in PINE. He has since lost the account, and he > never did give me the copy of his .pinerc file I requested. He has no > clue how it was set up either (I was like that when he got it, and was > never the type to figure out how things work.) > > In any case, I'd appreciate any help with this. Thanks. > -- > _ _ _ > THE \| |___ _ _ _ __ __ _| | A tear of petrol, is in your eye > | .` / _ \ '_| ' \/ _` | | The handbrake, penetrates your thigh > |_|\_\___/_| |_|_|_\__,_|_| Quick, lets make love, before you die > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 29 06:46:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05595; Tue, 29 Aug 95 06:46:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24383; Tue, 29 Aug 95 06:40:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha.loyno.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24377; Tue, 29 Aug 95 06:40:22 -0700 Received: by alpha.loyno.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/22Jul94-0234PM) id AA08273; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 10:41:47 +0200 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 10:41:46 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mary Aplin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How to disable users' ability to use config In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII While we're on the subject, is there a way to disable the users ability to print the help file? Thanks, Mary Aplin Loyola University, New Orleans On Tue, 29 Aug 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > There are four very useful variables that can only be set in the > systemwide "fixed" configuration file: > > disable-config-screen Prevents access to the configuration screen. > disable-password-cmd Prevents people changing their password. > disable-update-cmd Disables the "Update" command (useful for UNIX systems) > disable-kblock-cmd Disables the "keyboard lock" feature of Pine. > > You may want to try some/all of them. > > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > On Mon, 21 Aug 1995, Wil Rodriguez wrote: > > > I read the FAQ, but I couldn't figure out how to set pine.conf.fixed so > > that users could not make _any_ alterations via the setup|config options. > > > > Thanks! > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 29 07:28:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06244; Tue, 29 Aug 95 07:28:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24990; Tue, 29 Aug 95 07:21:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24984; Tue, 29 Aug 95 07:21:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snRUl-00038DC; Tue, 29 Aug 95 07:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: d1temp@dtek.chalmers.se (Michael Tempsch) Subject: Re: Base64 decoder ??? Date: 29 Aug 1995 13:56:04 GMT Message-Id: <41v69k$3i8@nyheter.chalmers.se> References: krok@nostromo.fact.rhein-ruhr.de (Matthias Krok) writes: >Hi ! >Can anyone mail me the ftp-path to a unix-source for a decoder that decodes >the base64-format ? doesn't need to be a complete program, just a code, that >I can compiler under Linux. A DOS executable would also be good. >Please mail me, because I'm not sure if this thread belongs in this >newsgroup. (Dunno a better one) >Thanx in advance. Check out http://www.uni-frankfurt.de/~fp/uudeview/ or ftp diane.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de directory /pub/dist/frank where uudeview-0.4.11.tar.gz is Unix sourcecode uudvd04d.zip is the DOS binary uudvw04d.zip is the Windows binary A very nice program that does Base64, UU and XX in both DOS/Windows and Unix and both directions... -- | "Walk softly and carry a megawatt laser" | | Michael Tempsch member of Ballistic Wizards, TIP#088, TDGP#20 | | E: d1temp@dtek.chalmers.se Snail: Hedeforsv 35A, 443 61 STENKULLEN | | Home: +46 30213300 Mobile: +46 707202820 Beeper: +46 740128507 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 29 07:57:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06952; Tue, 29 Aug 95 07:57:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06811; Tue, 29 Aug 95 07:51:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06805; Tue, 29 Aug 95 07:51:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snRxR-00038DC; Tue, 29 Aug 95 07:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ty@tortola.usgcc.odu.edu (Ty Cage Warren) Subject: Confirmation of receipt Date: 29 Aug 1995 13:27:45 GMT Message-Id: <41v4kh$3v3@maui.cc.odu.edu> Is there a way to send e-mail with Pine 3.91 so that I'll get a confirmation that the message was received? Thanks for the help. Ty From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 29 08:05:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07166; Tue, 29 Aug 95 08:05:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25644; Tue, 29 Aug 95 08:01:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from coil-ether.nist.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25638; Tue, 29 Aug 95 08:01:14 -0700 Received: by coil.nist.gov (4.1/SMI-3.2-del.7-klm.4) id AA00929; Tue, 29 Aug 95 11:00:30 EDT Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 11:00:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Manheimer Reply-To: ken.manheimer@NIST.gov To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Unix Pine 3.91] Selection of message headers in regular display? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > On 18 Aug 1995, I wrote: > > > Howdy. I've got another feature request. It stems from wanting to > > see the 'X-organization:' header line in my regular message display. > > Ie, not have to switch to full-headers to see this non-standard (but > > typically present) header line. More generally, i think it would be On Tue, 29 Aug 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > I think you'll find that Pine 3.91 already can do what you want through > its normal Setup Configuration screen. > > In particular the variable "customized-hdrs" can be used to add custom > [...] > message. > > However there is also a variable called "default-composer-hdrs". This > lists the headers you wish to be shown by default when composing a > message (ie, the "normal" ones you see without having to type Ctrl/R). Thanks for the suggestion, but customized-hdrs and default-composer-hdrs affect message composition (and, in fact, i already employ them for this purpose). I was concerned in my query with message reading. I still haven't found any options that enable me to designate additional headers for the non-"full-headers" mode display. I suspect such options need to be added... ken ken.manheimer@nist.gov, 301 975-3539 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 29 09:33:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10913; Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:33:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27687; Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:28:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27681; Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:28:18 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14801; Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:28:01 -0700 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: ken.manheimer@NIST.gov Cc: Mike Brudenell , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Unix Pine 3.91] Selection of message headers in regular display? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 29 Aug 1995, Ken Manheimer wrote: > > I still haven't found any options that enable me to designate > additional headers for the non-"full-headers" mode display. I > suspect such options need to be added... > Pine 3.91 does not have that option, but Pine 3.92 will... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 29 09:42:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11201; Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:42:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27985; Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:39:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhub.acsu.buffalo.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27979; Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:39:23 -0700 Received: from orichalc.acsu.buffalo.edu (br@orichalc.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.7.22]) by mailhub (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id MAA23393; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 12:34:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 12:34:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Pulp-Fiction To: Mike Brudenell Cc: Wil Rodriguez , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to disable users' ability to use config In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi is there a way to filter files, from say this listserv, into a pine mail folder, which i created called pine. Im sure ppl have asked this Q a million times, sorry about that. We have Unix,Solaris 2.3 (system V), and pine 3.91. There is a utility called proamail i think, that should do the job, but i have no idea. Any ideas, are appreciated Thanks in advance Love, Peace & Respect Jaz ........ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 29 10:04:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11986; Tue, 29 Aug 95 10:04:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09629; Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:58:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhub.acsu.buffalo.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09623; Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:58:29 -0700 Received: from orichalc.acsu.buffalo.edu (br@orichalc.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.7.22]) by mailhub (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id MAA25221; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 12:58:21 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 12:58:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Pulp-Fiction To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Filter files 4 pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi is there a way to filter files, from say this listserv, into a pine mail folder, which i created called pine. Im sure ppl have asked this Q a million times, sorry about that. We have Unix,Solaris 2.3 (system V), and pine 3.91. There is a utility called proamail i think, that should do the job, but i have no idea. Any ideas, are appreciated Thanks in advance Love, Peace & Respect Jaz ........ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 29 10:26:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12611; Tue, 29 Aug 95 10:26:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29074; Tue, 29 Aug 95 10:22:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29068; Tue, 29 Aug 95 10:22:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snULc-00038HC; Tue, 29 Aug 95 10:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fred Firestine Subject: Help - reverse alias lookup Date: 29 Aug 1995 13:42:32 GMT Message-Id: <41v5g8$d5u@hprisc00.hazeltine.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, We recently added reverse alias lookup to our sendmail configuration. This feature substitutes the alias for the user id in the From: field (for instance, frf7789@hazeltine.com becomes firestine@hazeltine.com). Elm seems to have adjusted well to this change without any adjustments on our part. Messages sent with Pine continue to have the userid in the From: field rather than the alias. I have looked through the documentation without finding any way to modify the From: field, other than a Reply-To: custom header. Am I missing something? Thanks, Fred ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Fred Firestine | Hazeltine Corporation firestine@hazeltine.com | Greenlawn, NY ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 29 10:37:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12921; Tue, 29 Aug 95 10:37:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10468; Tue, 29 Aug 95 10:33:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10460; Tue, 29 Aug 95 10:33:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snUTb-00038DC; Tue, 29 Aug 95 10:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccamach1@osf1.gmu.edu (Christian D Camacho) Subject: Re: PINE for IRIX 4(?) Date: 29 Aug 1995 16:12:07 GMT Message-Id: <41ve8n$uc1@portal.gmu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ktinga! (ktinga@argo.unm.edu) wrote: : Hello. : I am trying to find a compiled version of PINE for IRIX. The SGI : I intend on installing it on is on an Indigo 2. Odd as it sounds, the : department got hold of a SGI powerhouse without a compiler of any sort. I'm having the same problem. I got the source code off ftp.cac.washington.edu but found that there was no version for Irix 5.4 for our Indy workstations. I could probably compile it here if you find me the source code available for Irix. I also need Pico, vi is killing me. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 29 11:04:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14181; Tue, 29 Aug 95 11:04:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30000; Tue, 29 Aug 95 11:00:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hertz.njit.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29994; Tue, 29 Aug 95 11:00:55 -0700 Received: (from asb6490@localhost) by hertz.njit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA29714; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 14:00:53 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 14:00:52 -0400 (EDT) From: aneil s butani ee stnt To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: REG: E-MAIL LIST Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Sir, Please E-Mail me an international E-Mail address list especially of India, BOMBAY if possible at your earliest. I want to communicate with my brother in India and I cannot get through to their system abd I keep receiving Rejection Notices from the Postmaster. I have also E-Mailed the Postmaster( mcimail.com ) for the rectification of the problem but there was no reply. Please acknowledge the receipt of this mail and expecting a positive reply. Thanks a lot. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 29 11:25:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15310; Tue, 29 Aug 95 11:25:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00630; Tue, 29 Aug 95 11:22:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00624; Tue, 29 Aug 95 11:22:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snVG7-00038OC; Tue, 29 Aug 95 11:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maor@celsiustech.se Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 inserts Date: 29 Aug 1995 14:17:25 MET Message-Id: <41v0e0$mb5@world.celsiustech.se> References: I'm using Pine 3.91 on a black NeXT 3.2 and I've noticed that when mail > send from my machine is read on certain mailers (generic 'mail', mail > programs on IBM mainframes and VAX machines) sometimes the characters > =20 appear at the end of lines. This only happens sometimes and I've not > found a pattern yet. The =XX looks as a mimecoded character, and 20 hex is the same as a space. Have you maybe written a space-character, at the end of some line(s) ? /Mats From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 29 11:43:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16087; Tue, 29 Aug 95 11:43:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00907; Tue, 29 Aug 95 11:33:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from coil-ether.nist.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00900; Tue, 29 Aug 95 11:33:29 -0700 Received: by coil.nist.gov (4.1/SMI-3.2-del.7-klm.4) id AA02330; Tue, 29 Aug 95 14:10:03 EDT Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 14:10:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Manheimer Reply-To: ken.manheimer@NIST.gov To: David L Miller Cc: ken.manheimer@NIST.GOV, Mike Brudenell , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Unix Pine 3.91] Selection of message headers in regular display? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 29 Aug 1995, David L Miller wrote: > On Tue, 29 Aug 1995, Ken Manheimer wrote: > > I still haven't found any options that enable me to designate > > additional headers for the non-"full-headers" mode display. I > > suspect such options need to be added... > Pine 3.91 does not have that option, but Pine 3.92 will... Yay! Thanks... ken ken.manheimer@nist.gov, 301 975-3539 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 29 13:57:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22668; Tue, 29 Aug 95 13:57:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14669; Tue, 29 Aug 95 13:52:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14663; Tue, 29 Aug 95 13:52:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snXUN-00038MC; Tue, 29 Aug 95 13:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ben T. Feese" Subject: Re: Can pine thread news items correctly Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 15:19:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: References: <280697411wnr@cddc.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 28 Aug 1995, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > OrderedSubj is what I use, and I consider that proper threading. ==snip==snip==snip==snip==snip==snip==snip==snip==snip==snip==snip==snip==snip== OrderSubj is what I use too, and it is better than nothing. But, because it orders all messages with a given subject according to the time in which they were *received*locally*, rather than in terms of the (universal, GMT) time at which they were *transmitted*, often the ordering is jumbled and makes it it difficult to make sense of the thread. (i.e. responses precede the originating message of the thread). btf From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 29 14:58:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25541; Tue, 29 Aug 95 14:58:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05565; Tue, 29 Aug 95 14:53:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from opus.csd.uwm.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05559; Tue, 29 Aug 95 14:53:01 -0700 Received: (dave@localhost) by opus.csd.uwm.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id QAA21889; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 16:52:57 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 16:52:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Dave Rasmussen To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Disabling news window? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a group of users that are using some weird 3270 card in their machines to communicate with our unix systems and have some weird cursor control problem (they tell me) when I set the global pine.conf file to have an nntp server defined. A dirty way around this I've found is to put some gibberish in the news-collections variable in their personal .pinerc files, which makes the news group part of the screen vanish entirely. But pine also complains about this unintelligible stuff at startup. Is there anything I can set in a users .pinerc file that makes pine not list news collections, or even the lower half of the news collection screen, if the global file has a server defined? Dave Rasmussen - Information & Media Technologies (ex-CSD) Client Services Internet: dave@csd.uwm.edu Phone: 414-229-5133 2m HAM Radio: N9REJ USmail: Box 413 Bol213, Milwaukee, WI 53201 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 29 15:55:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28419; Tue, 29 Aug 95 15:55:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07097; Tue, 29 Aug 95 15:52:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07091; Tue, 29 Aug 95 15:52:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snZRN-00038DC; Tue, 29 Aug 95 15:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Subject: Re: How to disable users' ability to use config Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 16:45:47 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: procmail is the tool you want: [ begin .procmailrc ] PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail LOGFILE=$HOME/.procmail.log :0: * ^From: UniqueString pine [end .procmailrc] change UniqueString to something which appears in the "From:" or "From" line (whichever you specify right before UniqueString) procmail is very smart. If it can't figure out what to do with something, it leaves it alone. ymmv, sar, etc etc TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma NeXT 3.2 m68k luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu ASCII, MIME, and NeXTMail OK Just another convert to the Z-Shell Avoid DOS at all costs. "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." On 29 Aug 1995, Pulp-Fiction wrote: > Date: 29 AUG 1995 09:42:38 -0700 > From: Pulp-Fiction > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: How to disable users' ability to use config > > Hi is there a way to filter files, from say this listserv, into a pine > mail folder, which i created called pine. Im sure ppl have asked this Q a > million times, sorry about that. > We have Unix,Solaris 2.3 (system V), and pine 3.91. There is a utility > called proamail i think, that should do the job, but i have no idea. Any > ideas, are appreciated > Thanks in advance > > Love, Peace & Respect Jaz ........ > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 29 20:42:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08330; Tue, 29 Aug 95 20:42:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21993; Tue, 29 Aug 95 20:38:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21987; Tue, 29 Aug 95 20:38:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sndwR-00038DC; Tue, 29 Aug 95 20:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lllarsen@shore.net (Larry Larsen) Subject: Pine and number pad Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 22:42:19 GMT Message-Id: <420cpi$r37@shore.shore.net> We installed Pine on an RS6000 with AIX 4.13? After using Pine or Pico, the number pad does not function. This is in vt100 emulation mode on Wyse terminals, pc's. Any suggestions? It is necessary to logout and re-set the terminals. thanks, larry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 29 22:52:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10760; Tue, 29 Aug 95 22:52:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13903; Tue, 29 Aug 95 22:48:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13897; Tue, 29 Aug 95 22:48:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snfrO-00038DC; Tue, 29 Aug 95 22:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: How Can I *&^%$@#-list Someone's Mail? Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 22:44:49 -0400 Message-Id: References: <41tg9h$do4@mark.ucdavis.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <41tg9h$do4@mark.ucdavis.edu> On 28 Aug 1995, Elizabeth Mills wrote: | is it possible to automatically bounce messages from a particular sender? | i don't particularly want to receive mail from certain person and i'd | like to just bounce it back to them w/ some sort of "your mail is being | refused" message. [...] Pine by itself will not do this. If you are on a Un*x(-like) system, you can use a mail preprocessor like procmail to do mail filtering: take action on mail from the particular sender and dump everything else, by default, into your mailbox (or however you wnat to set it up). For information on mail filtering, including procmail: URL: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 29 23:07:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11066; Tue, 29 Aug 95 23:07:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23586; Tue, 29 Aug 95 23:05:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23566; Tue, 29 Aug 95 23:05:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sng66-00038DC; Tue, 29 Aug 95 22:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Elaine Cheslow Subject: Problem with ^C Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 23:11:27 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just got a PowerMac 7500 and now can't get ^C to work. I was using a Mac LCIII and had no problem. Can anyone advise me what to do? Thanks. Elaine Cheslow Bethesda-Chevy Chase High School Bethesda, Maryland From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 30 06:03:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22722; Wed, 30 Aug 95 06:03:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28597; Wed, 30 Aug 95 05:59:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from actcom.co.il by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28591; Wed, 30 Aug 95 05:58:54 -0700 Received: from galtronics.UUCP by actcom.co.il with UUCPgaltronics (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id PAA10482 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 15:40:31 +0300 (rfc931-sender: uucp@localhost) Received: by aviion.galtronics.co.il (5.4R2.10/ACTCOM-GALTRONICS-S-1.0) id AA22834; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 15:20:16 GMT Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 15:20:15 +0000 (GMT) From: Aladdin Khamis To: PINE-INFO Subject: can't connect to linux 143? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When I try access a folder that is setting on my Linux server I get an error like what you see in the subject field. And then I get another error message saying: "Can't access server". I have imap, SMTP, pop, pop3 all set up properly, in fact I can access a folder from inside Linux, but can't do the opposite. This is not clear to me, is there anybody that had a similar situation? Aladdin Khamis Information Systems Department Galtronics Ltd. P.O.Box 1589 Tiberias 14115 Tel: 972-6-732-111 Ext.299 Fax: 972-6-732-037 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 30 08:09:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25475; Wed, 30 Aug 95 08:09:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22087; Wed, 30 Aug 95 08:01:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.bridgeway.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22073; Wed, 30 Aug 95 08:01:53 -0700 Received: from server.bridgeway.com (server.bridgeway.com [204.57.180.3]) by server.bridgeway.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA07990; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 08:02:25 -0700 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 08:02:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Le To: Elaine Cheslow Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problem with ^C In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Are you using Telnet to access pine on a Unix box? If so, go into Sessions -> Setup Keys and the dialog box should be self explanatory... How's your new Power Mac PCI doing? ================================================================== Andrew Le support@server.bridgeway.com Bridgeway Corporation 206-881-4270 Bridging the Gap in Network Mgt. 206-861-1774 fax ================================================================== On Tue, 29 Aug 1995, Elaine Cheslow wrote: > I just got a PowerMac 7500 and now can't get ^C to work. I was using a > Mac LCIII and had no problem. Can anyone advise me what to do? Thanks. > > Elaine Cheslow > Bethesda-Chevy Chase High School > Bethesda, Maryland > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 30 09:03:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27283; Wed, 30 Aug 95 09:03:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23424; Wed, 30 Aug 95 09:00:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23418; Wed, 30 Aug 95 09:00:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snpPL-00038DC; Wed, 30 Aug 95 08:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rick Bill Subject: pine and attachments Date: Wed, 30 Aug 95 10:50:22 PDT Message-Id: <421tas$56c@news.laser.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm having problems with pine when adding attachments. The error message I get is: error positioning /path of file I am running imap and pop on the mail server. Any ideas? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 30 09:04:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27354; Wed, 30 Aug 95 09:04:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01255; Wed, 30 Aug 95 09:00:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01249; Wed, 30 Aug 95 09:00:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snpPM-00038HC; Wed, 30 Aug 95 08:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Subject: seeing all headers when posting mail Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 09:39:16 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII several people told me that I can simply edit the header fields when composing a mail message which is also a post. can anyone explain to me how I do this? I only see the newsgroup, attachment and Subject lines. Thanks TjL From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 30 11:37:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03913; Wed, 30 Aug 95 11:37:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04645; Wed, 30 Aug 95 11:33:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04637; Wed, 30 Aug 95 11:33:36 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21810; Wed, 30 Aug 95 11:33:25 -0700 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 11:33:22 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Aladdin Khamis Cc: PINE-INFO Subject: Re: can't connect to linux 143? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What is the _exact_ error message? Can you telnet to port 143 on the server and get a one-line IMAP banner? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Aladdin Khamis wrote: > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 15:20:15 +0000 (GMT) > From: Aladdin Khamis > To: PINE-INFO > Subject: can't connect to linux 143? > > When I try access a folder that is setting on my Linux server I get an > error like what you see in the subject field. And then I get another > error message saying: "Can't access server". > I have imap, SMTP, pop, pop3 all set up properly, in fact I can access a > folder from inside Linux, but can't do the opposite. This is not clear > to me, is there anybody that had a similar situation? > > > > > Aladdin Khamis Information Systems Department > Galtronics Ltd. P.O.Box 1589 Tiberias 14115 > Tel: 972-6-732-111 Ext.299 Fax: 972-6-732-037 > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 30 11:56:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04716; Wed, 30 Aug 95 11:56:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27620; Wed, 30 Aug 95 11:50:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Berthy.grbb.polymtl.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27614; Wed, 30 Aug 95 11:50:40 -0700 Received: by Berthy.grbb.polymtl.ca (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id OAA06743; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 14:52:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 14:52:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Gildas PERROT To: Pine Developers , dlm@cac.washington.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug (ID 3X126): REPOST: From: header not well generated by Pine 3.91 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-2066787322-2056635183-809808726=:6662" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---2066787322-2056635183-809808726=:6662 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I am using Pine 3.91 since 1 year and I still have a problem I can solve. It's about 'From:' field in outgoing mail. This one contains the hostname of my mail exchanger, 'Pinuche' : login@Pinuche.grbb.polymtl.ca. I would like to get just the domainame : login@grbb.polymtl.ca. I have correctly configured my sendmail.cf on my hosts in order to remove hostname from 'From:' when using 'mail' or 'Mail' but with pine, I still have this problem. However, I have the lines in pine.conf : user-domain=grbb.polymtl.ca use-only-domain-name=no I tried to use : user-domain= use-only-domain-name=yes but with no more success. I checked that my .pinerc doesn't have another configuration. I ask SGI technical support, and they also receive my email with a wrong "From:" header. They said that 'From:' is generated by 'pine' and not by 'sendmail'. They suggested me to force pine not to generate the 'From:' or to force pine to generate a 'From:' header with username and domainame by modifying the sources. Any idea how to do that ? Gildas. # Gildas PERROT, Associe de recherche # Ecole Polytechnique # Institut de Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) # Gildas PERROT, http://www.grbb.polymtl.ca/~perrot/gildas.html # Ecole Polytechnique, Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) ---2066787322-2056635183-809808726=:6662 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; name="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = perrot, full = Gildas PERROT home = /Berthy/people/perrot home_dir= /Berthy/people/perrot hostname= Berthy.grbb.polymtl.ca localdom= grbb.polymtl.ca userdom= grbb.polymtl.ca maildom= grbb.polymtl.ca cur_cntxt= /Berthy/people/perrot/Mail/[] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= /var/mail/perrot msgmap: tot=2, cur=1, del=1, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival inbox is mail_stream term type=xterm, ttyname=/dev/ttyq2, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Gildas PERROT user-id : perrot user-domain : grbb.polymtl.ca nntp-server : news.polymtl.ca inbox-path : /var/mail/perrot folder-collections : /Berthy/people/perrot/Mail/[] news-collections : *{news.polymtl.ca/nntp}[] default-fcc : "" postponed-folder : /Berthy/people/perrot/POST mail-directory : mail read-message-folder : /Berthy/people/perrot/Mail/RECEIVED signature-file : /Berthy/people/perrot/.signature global-address-book : /disk3/lib/addressbook address-book : .addressbook feature-list : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : expanded-view-of-folders : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : enable-tab-completion : save-will-advance : delete-skips-deleted : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-alternate-editor-implicitly : compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm : delete-skips-deleted : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-tab-completion : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expanded-view-of-folders : save-will-advance : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : news-post-without-validation saved-msg-name-rule : by-sender fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last character-set : ISO-8859-1 editor : /disk3/system/shell/emnw image-viewer : /disk3/bin/xv use-only-domain-name : no printer : recode Latin-1:flat | lp -depson personal-print-comma : recode Latin-1:flat | lp -depson standard-printer : lp last-time-prune-ques : 95.8 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/Berthy/people/perrot/.pinerc) ======= user-domain : grbb.polymtl.ca feature-list : enable-alternate-editor-implicitly : compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm : delete-skips-deleted : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-tab-completion : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expanded-view-of-folders : save-will-advance : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : news-post-without-validation editor : /disk3/system/shell/emnw use-only-domain-name : no printer : recode Latin-1:flat | lp -depson personal-print-comma : recode Latin-1:flat | lp -depson last-time-prune-ques : 95.8 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= user-domain : grbb.polymtl.ca nntp-server : news.polymtl.ca inbox-path : /var/mail/$USER folder-collections : ~/Mail/[] default-fcc : "" postponed-folder : ~/POST mail-directory : mail read-message-folder : ~/Mail/RECEIVED signature-file : ~/.signature global-address-book : /disk3/lib/addressbook address-book : .addressbook feature-list : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : expanded-view-of-folders : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : enable-tab-completion : save-will-advance : delete-skips-deleted : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut saved-msg-name-rule : by-sender fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last character-set : ISO-8859-1 editor : /disk3/bin/emacs image-viewer : /disk3/bin/xv use-only-domain-name : no printer : lp -depson personal-print-comma : lp -depson standard-printer : lp bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-enable-aggregate-command-set enable-alternate-editor-cmd enable-alternate-editor-implicitly enable-bounce-cmd enable-flag-cmd enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd expanded-view-of-addressbooks expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface no-signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys ---2066787322-2056635183-809808726=:6662-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 30 12:11:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05282; Wed, 30 Aug 95 12:11:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05412; Wed, 30 Aug 95 12:08:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05406; Wed, 30 Aug 95 12:08:02 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22950; Wed, 30 Aug 95 12:07:57 -0700 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 12:07:52 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller Reply-To: David L Miller To: Gildas PERROT Cc: Pine Developers , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Bug (ID 3X126): REPOST: From: header not well generated by Pine 3.91 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1107895355-809809672=:18085" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1107895355-809809672=:18085 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Your message arrived here with the address you want in the From: header, as shown below. Either configuration you listed will generate this address. I don't know where the header is getting re-written, but it is leaving Pine correctly. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Gildas PERROT wrote: > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 14:52:06 -0400 (EDT) > From: Gildas PERROT > To: Pine Developers , dlm@cac.washington.edu, > pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Bug (ID 3X126): REPOST: From: header not well generated by Pine 3.91 > > Hi, > > I am using Pine 3.91 since 1 year and I still have a problem I can > solve. It's about 'From:' field in outgoing mail. This one contains > the hostname of my mail exchanger, 'Pinuche' : > login@Pinuche.grbb.polymtl.ca. I would like to get just the domainame > : login@grbb.polymtl.ca. I have correctly configured my sendmail.cf on > my hosts in order to remove hostname from 'From:' when using 'mail' or > 'Mail' but with pine, I still have this problem. However, I have the > lines in pine.conf : > > user-domain=grbb.polymtl.ca > use-only-domain-name=no > > I tried to use : > user-domain= > use-only-domain-name=yes > > but with no more success. I checked that my .pinerc doesn't have > another configuration. > > I ask SGI technical support, and they also receive my email with a > wrong "From:" header. They said that 'From:' is generated by 'pine' > and not by 'sendmail'. They suggested me to force pine not to generate > the 'From:' or to force pine to generate a 'From:' header with > username and domainame by modifying the sources. > > Any idea how to do that ? Gildas. > > # Gildas PERROT, Associe de recherche # Ecole Polytechnique > # Institut de Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o > # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ > # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) > > > > > # Gildas PERROT, http://www.grbb.polymtl.ca/~perrot/gildas.html > # Ecole Polytechnique, Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o > # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ > # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) > --0-1107895355-809809672=:18085 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = perrot, full = Gildas PERROT home = /Berthy/people/perrot home_dir= /Berthy/people/perrot hostname= Berthy.grbb.polymtl.ca localdom= grbb.polymtl.ca userdom= grbb.polymtl.ca maildom= grbb.polymtl.ca cur_cntxt= /Berthy/people/perrot/Mail/[] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= /var/mail/perrot msgmap: tot=2, cur=1, del=1, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival inbox is mail_stream term type=xterm, ttyname=/dev/ttyq2, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Gildas PERROT user-id : perrot user-domain : grbb.polymtl.ca nntp-server : news.polymtl.ca inbox-path : /var/mail/perrot folder-collections : /Berthy/people/perrot/Mail/[] news-collections : *{news.polymtl.ca/nntp}[] default-fcc : "" postponed-folder : /Berthy/people/perrot/POST mail-directory : mail read-message-folder : /Berthy/people/perrot/Mail/RECEIVED signature-file : /Berthy/people/perrot/.signature global-address-book : /disk3/lib/addressbook address-book : .addressbook feature-list : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : expanded-view-of-folders : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : enable-tab-completion : save-will-advance : delete-skips-deleted : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-alternate-editor-implicitly : compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm : delete-skips-deleted : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-tab-completion : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expanded-view-of-folders : save-will-advance : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : news-post-without-validation saved-msg-name-rule : by-sender fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last character-set : ISO-8859-1 editor : /disk3/system/shell/emnw image-viewer : /disk3/bin/xv use-only-domain-name : no printer : recode Latin-1:flat | lp -depson personal-print-comma : recode Latin-1:flat | lp -depson standard-printer : lp last-time-prune-ques : 95.8 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/Berthy/people/perrot/.pinerc) ======= user-domain : grbb.polymtl.ca feature-list : enable-alternate-editor-implicitly : compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm : delete-skips-deleted : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-tab-completion : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expanded-view-of-folders : save-will-advance : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : news-post-without-validation editor : /disk3/system/shell/emnw use-only-domain-name : no printer : recode Latin-1:flat | lp -depson personal-print-comma : recode Latin-1:flat | lp -depson last-time-prune-ques : 95.8 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= user-domain : grbb.polymtl.ca nntp-server : news.polymtl.ca inbox-path : /var/mail/$USER folder-collections : ~/Mail/[] default-fcc : "" postponed-folder : ~/POST mail-directory : mail read-message-folder : ~/Mail/RECEIVED signature-file : ~/.signature global-address-book : /disk3/lib/addressbook address-book : .addressbook feature-list : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : expanded-view-of-folders : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : enable-tab-completion : save-will-advance : delete-skips-deleted : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut saved-msg-name-rule : by-sender fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last character-set : ISO-8859-1 editor : /disk3/bin/emacs image-viewer : /disk3/bin/xv use-only-domain-name : no printer : lp -depson personal-print-comma : lp -depson standard-printer : lp bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-enable-aggregate-command-set enable-alternate-editor-cmd enable-alternate-editor-implicitly enable-bounce-cmd enable-flag-cmd enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd expanded-view-of-addressbooks expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface no-signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys --0-1107895355-809809672=:18085-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 30 12:21:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05689; Wed, 30 Aug 95 12:21:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28281; Wed, 30 Aug 95 12:19:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Berthy.grbb.polymtl.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28245; Wed, 30 Aug 95 12:18:58 -0700 Received: by Berthy.grbb.polymtl.ca (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id PAA06912; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 15:20:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 15:20:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Gildas PERROT To: David L Miller Cc: Pine Developers , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Bug (ID 3X126): REPOST: From: header not well generated by Pine 3.91 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, No. Pine is defining the 'From:' header with 'Pinuche' in it and I don't want this. As I said, SGI tech support and my recipient (my account in another university) are receiving a 'From:' header with 'Pinuche' in it. As far as I know, you are really the only one receiving my 'From:' header correctly. Furthermore, 'Mail' utility which uses 'sendmail' to generate 'From:' header doesn't create this problem. Finally, SGI tech support said me that they could see by the position of the wrong 'From:' header (I think they received my email with 2 'From:' headers) that this one was created by Pine. Maybe the best thing is to not define 'From:' in Pine and leave sendmail doing that. Do you know how to modify sources to do that ? Thanks in advance. Gildas. # Gildas PERROT, http://www.grbb.polymtl.ca/~perrot/gildas.html # Ecole Polytechnique, Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > Your message arrived here with the address you want in the From: > header, as shown below. Either configuration you listed will generate > this address. I don't know where the header is getting re-written, > but it is leaving Pine correctly. > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Gildas PERROT wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 14:52:06 -0400 (EDT) > > From: Gildas PERROT > > To: Pine Developers , dlm@cac.washington.edu, > > pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > Subject: Bug (ID 3X126): REPOST: From: header not well generated by Pine 3.91 > > > > Hi, > > > > I am using Pine 3.91 since 1 year and I still have a problem I can > > solve. It's about 'From:' field in outgoing mail. This one contains > > the hostname of my mail exchanger, 'Pinuche' : > > login@Pinuche.grbb.polymtl.ca. I would like to get just the domainame > > : login@grbb.polymtl.ca. I have correctly configured my sendmail.cf on > > my hosts in order to remove hostname from 'From:' when using 'mail' or > > 'Mail' but with pine, I still have this problem. However, I have the > > lines in pine.conf : > > > > user-domain=grbb.polymtl.ca > > use-only-domain-name=no > > > > I tried to use : > > user-domain= > > use-only-domain-name=yes > > > > but with no more success. I checked that my .pinerc doesn't have > > another configuration. > > > > I ask SGI technical support, and they also receive my email with a > > wrong "From:" header. They said that 'From:' is generated by 'pine' > > and not by 'sendmail'. They suggested me to force pine not to generate > > the 'From:' or to force pine to generate a 'From:' header with > > username and domainame by modifying the sources. > > > > Any idea how to do that ? Gildas. > > > > # Gildas PERROT, Associe de recherche # Ecole Polytechnique > > # Institut de Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o > > # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ > > # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) > > > > > > > > > > # Gildas PERROT, http://www.grbb.polymtl.ca/~perrot/gildas.html > > # Ecole Polytechnique, Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o > > # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ > > # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 30 13:03:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07393; Wed, 30 Aug 95 13:03:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06272; Wed, 30 Aug 95 13:00:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06266; Wed, 30 Aug 95 12:59:48 -0700 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0sntKq-000sBqC; Wed, 30 Aug 95 22:02 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Wed, 30 Aug 95 21:59 MESZ Received: from paddington (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paddington (8.7.Beta.11/8.7.Beta.11) with SMTP id VAA00972; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 21:59:24 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Joswig Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 21:59:19 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: Gildas PERROT Cc: David L Miller , Pine Developers , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Bug (ID 3X126): REPOST: From: header not well generated by Pine 3.91 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Gildas, wy don't you try to use "Reply-To:
" in the "Customized-hdrs"? That will workaround the problem. Ciao, Michael Joswig On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Gildas PERROT wrote: > Hi, > > No. Pine is defining the 'From:' header with 'Pinuche' in it and I > don't want this. As I said, SGI tech support and my recipient (my > account in another university) are receiving a 'From:' header with > 'Pinuche' in it. As far as I know, you are really the only one > receiving my 'From:' header correctly. Furthermore, 'Mail' utility > which uses 'sendmail' to generate 'From:' header doesn't create this > problem. Finally, SGI tech support said me that they could see by the > position of the wrong 'From:' header (I think they received my email > with 2 'From:' headers) that this one was created by Pine. > > Maybe the best thing is to not define 'From:' in Pine and leave > sendmail doing that. Do you know how to modify sources to do that ? > > Thanks in advance. Gildas. > > # Gildas PERROT, http://www.grbb.polymtl.ca/~perrot/gildas.html > # Ecole Polytechnique, Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o > # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ > # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) > > On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > Your message arrived here with the address you want in the From: > > header, as shown below. Either configuration you listed will generate > > this address. I don't know where the header is getting re-written, > > but it is leaving Pine correctly. > > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > > > On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Gildas PERROT wrote: > > > > > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 14:52:06 -0400 (EDT) > > > From: Gildas PERROT > > > To: Pine Developers , dlm@cac.washington.edu, > > > pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > > Subject: Bug (ID 3X126): REPOST: From: header not well generated by Pine 3.91 > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am using Pine 3.91 since 1 year and I still have a problem I can > > > solve. It's about 'From:' field in outgoing mail. This one contains > > > the hostname of my mail exchanger, 'Pinuche' : > > > login@Pinuche.grbb.polymtl.ca. I would like to get just the domainame > > > : login@grbb.polymtl.ca. I have correctly configured my sendmail.cf on > > > my hosts in order to remove hostname from 'From:' when using 'mail' or > > > 'Mail' but with pine, I still have this problem. However, I have the > > > lines in pine.conf : > > > > > > user-domain=grbb.polymtl.ca > > > use-only-domain-name=no > > > > > > I tried to use : > > > user-domain= > > > use-only-domain-name=yes > > > > > > but with no more success. I checked that my .pinerc doesn't have > > > another configuration. > > > > > > I ask SGI technical support, and they also receive my email with a > > > wrong "From:" header. They said that 'From:' is generated by 'pine' > > > and not by 'sendmail'. They suggested me to force pine not to generate > > > the 'From:' or to force pine to generate a 'From:' header with > > > username and domainame by modifying the sources. > > > > > > Any idea how to do that ? Gildas. > > > > > > # Gildas PERROT, Associe de recherche # Ecole Polytechnique > > > # Institut de Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o > > > # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ > > > # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # Gildas PERROT, http://www.grbb.polymtl.ca/~perrot/gildas.html > > > # Ecole Polytechnique, Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o > > > # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ > > > # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) > > > > > > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 30 13:04:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07534; Wed, 30 Aug 95 13:04:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29135; Wed, 30 Aug 95 13:02:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29129; Wed, 30 Aug 95 13:02:06 -0700 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0sntNA-000sBmC; Wed, 30 Aug 95 22:04 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Wed, 30 Aug 95 22:02 MESZ Received: from paddington (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paddington (8.7.Beta.11/8.7.Beta.11) with SMTP id WAA00984 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 22:02:02 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Joswig Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 22:02:01 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: Pine-Info Mailinglist Subject: May I ask for a feature in Pine 3.92 or later? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi everyone, when reading emails which are more than one page long i would like to see the Subject-Field in the top of my Screen. All I see is "MESSAGE TEXT". Is there any chance to get it in one of the next releases of PINE? (Or: Is it already there and I haven't ssen it? I'm surte I read all of the Tech Notes ;-) Ciao, Michael Joswig ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 30 13:14:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08158; Wed, 30 Aug 95 13:14:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29459; Wed, 30 Aug 95 13:08:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Berthy.grbb.polymtl.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29453; Wed, 30 Aug 95 13:08:29 -0700 Received: by Berthy.grbb.polymtl.ca (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id QAA07150; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 16:09:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 16:09:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Gildas PERROT To: Michael Joswig Cc: David L Miller , Pine Developers , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Bug (ID 3X126): REPOST: From: header not well generated by Pine 3.91 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi and thanks for your answer. I don't need "Reply-To:
" to workaround the problem since even if the email address contains a hostname in it, email arrives to the right place. However, I don't want to see a hostname in my "From:" header. Gildas. # Gildas PERROT, http://www.grbb.polymtl.ca/~perrot/gildas.html # Ecole Polytechnique, Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Michael Joswig wrote: > Gildas, > > wy don't you try to use "Reply-To:
" in the "Customized-hdrs"? That will workaround > the problem. > > Ciao, > Michael Joswig > > On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Gildas PERROT wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > No. Pine is defining the 'From:' header with 'Pinuche' in it and I > > don't want this. As I said, SGI tech support and my recipient (my > > account in another university) are receiving a 'From:' header with > > 'Pinuche' in it. As far as I know, you are really the only one > > receiving my 'From:' header correctly. Furthermore, 'Mail' utility > > which uses 'sendmail' to generate 'From:' header doesn't create this > > problem. Finally, SGI tech support said me that they could see by the > > position of the wrong 'From:' header (I think they received my email > > with 2 'From:' headers) that this one was created by Pine. > > > > Maybe the best thing is to not define 'From:' in Pine and leave > > sendmail doing that. Do you know how to modify sources to do that ? > > > > Thanks in advance. Gildas. > > > > # Gildas PERROT, http://www.grbb.polymtl.ca/~perrot/gildas.html > > # Ecole Polytechnique, Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o > > # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ > > # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) > > > > On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > > > > Your message arrived here with the address you want in the From: > > > header, as shown below. Either configuration you listed will generate > > > this address. I don't know where the header is getting re-written, > > > but it is leaving Pine correctly. > > > > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > > > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > > > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > > > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > > > > > On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Gildas PERROT wrote: > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 14:52:06 -0400 (EDT) > > > > From: Gildas PERROT > > > > To: Pine Developers , dlm@cac.washington.edu, > > > > pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > > > Subject: Bug (ID 3X126): REPOST: From: header not well generated by Pine 3.91 > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I am using Pine 3.91 since 1 year and I still have a problem I can > > > > solve. It's about 'From:' field in outgoing mail. This one contains > > > > the hostname of my mail exchanger, 'Pinuche' : > > > > login@Pinuche.grbb.polymtl.ca. I would like to get just the domainame > > > > : login@grbb.polymtl.ca. I have correctly configured my sendmail.cf on > > > > my hosts in order to remove hostname from 'From:' when using 'mail' or > > > > 'Mail' but with pine, I still have this problem. However, I have the > > > > lines in pine.conf : > > > > > > > > user-domain=grbb.polymtl.ca > > > > use-only-domain-name=no > > > > > > > > I tried to use : > > > > user-domain= > > > > use-only-domain-name=yes > > > > > > > > but with no more success. I checked that my .pinerc doesn't have > > > > another configuration. > > > > > > > > I ask SGI technical support, and they also receive my email with a > > > > wrong "From:" header. They said that 'From:' is generated by 'pine' > > > > and not by 'sendmail'. They suggested me to force pine not to generate > > > > the 'From:' or to force pine to generate a 'From:' header with > > > > username and domainame by modifying the sources. > > > > > > > > Any idea how to do that ? Gildas. > > > > > > > > # Gildas PERROT, Associe de recherche # Ecole Polytechnique > > > > # Institut de Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o > > > > # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ > > > > # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # Gildas PERROT, http://www.grbb.polymtl.ca/~perrot/gildas.html > > > > # Ecole Polytechnique, Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o > > > > # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ > > > > # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================================ > Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 30 13:58:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10094; Wed, 30 Aug 95 13:58:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00594; Wed, 30 Aug 95 13:55:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00588; Wed, 30 Aug 95 13:55:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snu5L-00038HC; Wed, 30 Aug 95 13:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Subject: the strangest thing I've ever seen Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 14:25:35 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 1) using kermit, I connect to my school (Novell network), I login and select, 'telnet' to get to my mail account at capitalist.princeton.edu 2) I begin to read my mail and news through pine. 3) at some point, usually while composing a message, something happens (sorry, that's all I can say. Nothing visisble hapens, but obviously something is happening) and all of a sudden I lose the ability to type. that's not even the weird part. Whatever character/key I press, it starts printing out OLD keystrokes from much earlier in the session (always from the same session). I get to see everything I typed, all over again, and when it finishes, it just hangs there like a program in WinDows running on only 8MB RAM and never comes back. eventually I get logged out for being inactive (nothing I can input) and then in 15 minutes (time set by my novell network to punish idle connectors) I can login again and everything is fine for a few days, maybe a week. Sounds to be like some type of buffer is being kept and it is getting confused and rather than taking input it is giving output, but I don't really know. Anyone have a guess as to what's going on? I'm using a hayes-like modem with flow control. if that helps. Thanks Tjl -- Timothy J. Luoma NeXT 3.2 m68k luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu ASCII, MIME, and NeXTMail OK Just another convert to the Z-Shell Avoid DOS at all costs. "If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 30 14:13:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10850; Wed, 30 Aug 95 14:13:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07907; Wed, 30 Aug 95 14:07:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dcdsv0.fnal.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07901; Wed, 30 Aug 95 14:07:10 -0700 Received: by dcdsv0.fnal.gov via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA24440; Wed, 30 Aug 95 16:07:08 -0500 Message-Id: <9508302107.AA24440@dcdsv0.fnal.gov> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: NOTIFICATION OF NEW MAIL Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 16:07:08 CDT From: Clyde Moseberry > > to get really COOL (with subject and sender included) notification, > > see if rcvtty is on your system -- if it's available set it up in a > > .forward file -- run a man page on rcvtty for details -- look at the > > references at your leisure too; rcvtty require u+x on tty. > > Hey, MOSEBERRY! Thanks for the advice. I'll try it. why do I recognize that "!"? > You sound knowledgable about these things; can you answer another > question I have? To wit: If I own a posting on a newsgroup that has no > moderator, can I delete that posting? Not just hide it from myself, but > actually get rid of the sucker? don't know -- I've been using (really road testing) pine for exactly three days -- it was by sheer coincidence that I was also working on a mail notification issue at my work site -- advanced features? -- give me a couple more hours %+) MOSEBERRY From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 30 14:27:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11476; Wed, 30 Aug 95 14:27:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01170; Wed, 30 Aug 95 14:17:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01164; Wed, 30 Aug 95 14:17:49 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11993; Wed, 30 Aug 95 14:17:44 -0700 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 14:17:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Gildas PERROT Cc: David L Miller , Pine Developers , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Bug (ID 3X126): REPOST: From: header not well generated by Pine 3.91 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Gildas, My goodness, you do seem sure of yourself! But I'm equally sure that you are wrong: you have not substantiated the claim that "Pine is defining the 'From:' header with 'Pinuche' in it" I say that because in previous correspondence with us you've confirmed that the messages Pine stores in your sentmail folder have the *correct* From: address. This means that the problem is not in Pine, but outside. Also, it is a fact that Pine does not send a different From: to different recipients, so if some recipients are seeing one From: address and others are seeing another, it is guaranteed that some software outside of Pine is modifying the header in one of those cases. The fact that messages from "mail" do not exhibit the problem is a red-herring, since "mail" relies on sendmail to create the From: line, and the fact that sendmail creates From: lines as you want them says nothing about what it does with pre-existing From: lines. I guess you believe that the messages we see here in Seattle with the correct From: address are somehow modified by our own sendmail to make them look correct? Alas, for as long as you believe the SGI tech support person, you will be on an endless quest. -teg On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Gildas PERROT wrote: > Hi, > > No. Pine is defining the 'From:' header with 'Pinuche' in it and I > don't want this. As I said, SGI tech support and my recipient (my > account in another university) are receiving a 'From:' header with > 'Pinuche' in it. As far as I know, you are really the only one > receiving my 'From:' header correctly. Furthermore, 'Mail' utility > which uses 'sendmail' to generate 'From:' header doesn't create this > problem. Finally, SGI tech support said me that they could see by the > position of the wrong 'From:' header (I think they received my email > with 2 'From:' headers) that this one was created by Pine. > > Maybe the best thing is to not define 'From:' in Pine and leave > sendmail doing that. Do you know how to modify sources to do that ? > > Thanks in advance. Gildas. > > # Gildas PERROT, http://www.grbb.polymtl.ca/~perrot/gildas.html > # Ecole Polytechnique, Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o > # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ > # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) > > On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > Your message arrived here with the address you want in the From: > > header, as shown below. Either configuration you listed will generate > > this address. I don't know where the header is getting re-written, > > but it is leaving Pine correctly. > > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > > > On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Gildas PERROT wrote: > > > > > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 14:52:06 -0400 (EDT) > > > From: Gildas PERROT > > > To: Pine Developers , dlm@cac.washington.edu, > > > pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > > Subject: Bug (ID 3X126): REPOST: From: header not well generated by Pine 3.91 > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am using Pine 3.91 since 1 year and I still have a problem I can > > > solve. It's about 'From:' field in outgoing mail. This one contains > > > the hostname of my mail exchanger, 'Pinuche' : > > > login@Pinuche.grbb.polymtl.ca. I would like to get just the domainame > > > : login@grbb.polymtl.ca. I have correctly configured my sendmail.cf on > > > my hosts in order to remove hostname from 'From:' when using 'mail' or > > > 'Mail' but with pine, I still have this problem. However, I have the > > > lines in pine.conf : > > > > > > user-domain=grbb.polymtl.ca > > > use-only-domain-name=no > > > > > > I tried to use : > > > user-domain= > > > use-only-domain-name=yes > > > > > > but with no more success. I checked that my .pinerc doesn't have > > > another configuration. > > > > > > I ask SGI technical support, and they also receive my email with a > > > wrong "From:" header. They said that 'From:' is generated by 'pine' > > > and not by 'sendmail'. They suggested me to force pine not to generate > > > the 'From:' or to force pine to generate a 'From:' header with > > > username and domainame by modifying the sources. > > > > > > Any idea how to do that ? Gildas. > > > > > > # Gildas PERROT, Associe de recherche # Ecole Polytechnique > > > # Institut de Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o > > > # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ > > > # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # Gildas PERROT, http://www.grbb.polymtl.ca/~perrot/gildas.html > > > # Ecole Polytechnique, Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o > > > # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ > > > # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 30 14:30:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11766; Wed, 30 Aug 95 14:30:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01420; Wed, 30 Aug 95 14:27:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Berthy.grbb.polymtl.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01412; Wed, 30 Aug 95 14:27:10 -0700 Received: by Berthy.grbb.polymtl.ca (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id RAA07437; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 17:28:39 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 17:28:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Gildas PERROT To: Terry Gray Cc: David L Miller , Pine Developers , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Bug (ID 3X126): REPOST: From: header not well generated by Pine 3.91 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII OK, OK. I believe you Terry ;-) Seriously, why don't force pine to not generate the From: header and leave sendmail doing the job since it seems to do it correctly for Mail ? Gildas. # Gildas PERROT, http://www.grbb.polymtl.ca/~perrot/gildas.html # Ecole Polytechnique, Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Terry Gray wrote: > Gildas, > My goodness, you do seem sure of yourself! But I'm equally sure that you > are wrong: you have not substantiated the claim that "Pine is defining the > 'From:' header with 'Pinuche' in it" > > I say that because in previous correspondence with us you've confirmed > that the messages Pine stores in your sentmail folder have the *correct* > From: address. This means that the problem is not in Pine, but outside. > > Also, it is a fact that Pine does not send a different From: to different > recipients, so if some recipients are seeing one From: address and others > are seeing another, it is guaranteed that some software outside of Pine is > modifying the header in one of those cases. > > The fact that messages from "mail" do not exhibit the problem is a > red-herring, since "mail" relies on sendmail to create the From: line, > and the fact that sendmail creates From: lines as you want them says > nothing about what it does with pre-existing From: lines. > > I guess you believe that the messages we see here in Seattle with the > correct From: address are somehow modified by our own sendmail to make > them look correct? Alas, for as long as you believe the SGI tech support > person, you will be on an endless quest. > > -teg > > On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Gildas PERROT wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > No. Pine is defining the 'From:' header with 'Pinuche' in it and I > > don't want this. As I said, SGI tech support and my recipient (my > > account in another university) are receiving a 'From:' header with > > 'Pinuche' in it. As far as I know, you are really the only one > > receiving my 'From:' header correctly. Furthermore, 'Mail' utility > > which uses 'sendmail' to generate 'From:' header doesn't create this > > problem. Finally, SGI tech support said me that they could see by the > > position of the wrong 'From:' header (I think they received my email > > with 2 'From:' headers) that this one was created by Pine. > > > > Maybe the best thing is to not define 'From:' in Pine and leave > > sendmail doing that. Do you know how to modify sources to do that ? > > > > Thanks in advance. Gildas. > > > > # Gildas PERROT, http://www.grbb.polymtl.ca/~perrot/gildas.html > > # Ecole Polytechnique, Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o > > # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ > > # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) > > > > On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > > > > Your message arrived here with the address you want in the From: > > > header, as shown below. Either configuration you listed will generate > > > this address. I don't know where the header is getting re-written, > > > but it is leaving Pine correctly. > > > > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > > > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > > > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > > > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > > > > > On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Gildas PERROT wrote: > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 14:52:06 -0400 (EDT) > > > > From: Gildas PERROT > > > > To: Pine Developers , dlm@cac.washington.edu, > > > > pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > > > Subject: Bug (ID 3X126): REPOST: From: header not well generated by Pine 3.91 > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I am using Pine 3.91 since 1 year and I still have a problem I can > > > > solve. It's about 'From:' field in outgoing mail. This one contains > > > > the hostname of my mail exchanger, 'Pinuche' : > > > > login@Pinuche.grbb.polymtl.ca. I would like to get just the domainame > > > > : login@grbb.polymtl.ca. I have correctly configured my sendmail.cf on > > > > my hosts in order to remove hostname from 'From:' when using 'mail' or > > > > 'Mail' but with pine, I still have this problem. However, I have the > > > > lines in pine.conf : > > > > > > > > user-domain=grbb.polymtl.ca > > > > use-only-domain-name=no > > > > > > > > I tried to use : > > > > user-domain= > > > > use-only-domain-name=yes > > > > > > > > but with no more success. I checked that my .pinerc doesn't have > > > > another configuration. > > > > > > > > I ask SGI technical support, and they also receive my email with a > > > > wrong "From:" header. They said that 'From:' is generated by 'pine' > > > > and not by 'sendmail'. They suggested me to force pine not to generate > > > > the 'From:' or to force pine to generate a 'From:' header with > > > > username and domainame by modifying the sources. > > > > > > > > Any idea how to do that ? Gildas. > > > > > > > > # Gildas PERROT, Associe de recherche # Ecole Polytechnique > > > > # Institut de Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o > > > > # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ > > > > # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # Gildas PERROT, http://www.grbb.polymtl.ca/~perrot/gildas.html > > > > # Ecole Polytechnique, Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o > > > > # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ > > > > # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) > > > > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 30 14:38:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12235; Wed, 30 Aug 95 14:38:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01726; Wed, 30 Aug 95 14:35:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01720; Wed, 30 Aug 95 14:35:17 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17337; Wed, 30 Aug 95 14:35:09 -0700 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 14:35:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Gildas PERROT Cc: David L Miller , Pine Developers , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Bug (ID 3X126): REPOST: From: header not well generated by Pine 3.91 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Because it is entirely correct for the MUA to create the From: header, and it is entirely incorrect for the MTA to change it! (And I can assure you that there are lots of places where the sendmail config would *not* put in the correct From: address!) -teg On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Gildas PERROT wrote: > OK, OK. I believe you Terry ;-) > > Seriously, why don't force pine to not generate the From: header and > leave sendmail doing the job since it seems to do it correctly for > Mail ? > > Gildas. > > # Gildas PERROT, http://www.grbb.polymtl.ca/~perrot/gildas.html > # Ecole Polytechnique, Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o > # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ > # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) > > On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Terry Gray wrote: > > > Gildas, > > My goodness, you do seem sure of yourself! But I'm equally sure that you > > are wrong: you have not substantiated the claim that "Pine is defining the > > 'From:' header with 'Pinuche' in it" > > > > I say that because in previous correspondence with us you've confirmed > > that the messages Pine stores in your sentmail folder have the *correct* > > From: address. This means that the problem is not in Pine, but outside. > > > > Also, it is a fact that Pine does not send a different From: to different > > recipients, so if some recipients are seeing one From: address and others > > are seeing another, it is guaranteed that some software outside of Pine is > > modifying the header in one of those cases. > > > > The fact that messages from "mail" do not exhibit the problem is a > > red-herring, since "mail" relies on sendmail to create the From: line, > > and the fact that sendmail creates From: lines as you want them says > > nothing about what it does with pre-existing From: lines. > > > > I guess you believe that the messages we see here in Seattle with the > > correct From: address are somehow modified by our own sendmail to make > > them look correct? Alas, for as long as you believe the SGI tech support > > person, you will be on an endless quest. > > > > -teg > > > > On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Gildas PERROT wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > No. Pine is defining the 'From:' header with 'Pinuche' in it and I > > > don't want this. As I said, SGI tech support and my recipient (my > > > account in another university) are receiving a 'From:' header with > > > 'Pinuche' in it. As far as I know, you are really the only one > > > receiving my 'From:' header correctly. Furthermore, 'Mail' utility > > > which uses 'sendmail' to generate 'From:' header doesn't create this > > > problem. Finally, SGI tech support said me that they could see by the > > > position of the wrong 'From:' header (I think they received my email > > > with 2 'From:' headers) that this one was created by Pine. > > > > > > Maybe the best thing is to not define 'From:' in Pine and leave > > > sendmail doing that. Do you know how to modify sources to do that ? > > > > > > Thanks in advance. Gildas. > > > > > > # Gildas PERROT, http://www.grbb.polymtl.ca/~perrot/gildas.html > > > # Ecole Polytechnique, Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o > > > # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ > > > # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) > > > > > > On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Your message arrived here with the address you want in the From: > > > > header, as shown below. Either configuration you listed will generate > > > > this address. I don't know where the header is getting re-written, > > > > but it is leaving Pine correctly. > > > > > > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > > > > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > > > > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > > > > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > > > > > > > On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Gildas PERROT wrote: > > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 14:52:06 -0400 (EDT) > > > > > From: Gildas PERROT > > > > > To: Pine Developers , dlm@cac.washington.edu, > > > > > pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > > > > Subject: Bug (ID 3X126): REPOST: From: header not well generated by Pine 3.91 > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I am using Pine 3.91 since 1 year and I still have a problem I can > > > > > solve. It's about 'From:' field in outgoing mail. This one contains > > > > > the hostname of my mail exchanger, 'Pinuche' : > > > > > login@Pinuche.grbb.polymtl.ca. I would like to get just the domainame > > > > > : login@grbb.polymtl.ca. I have correctly configured my sendmail.cf on > > > > > my hosts in order to remove hostname from 'From:' when using 'mail' or > > > > > 'Mail' but with pine, I still have this problem. However, I have the > > > > > lines in pine.conf : > > > > > > > > > > user-domain=grbb.polymtl.ca > > > > > use-only-domain-name=no > > > > > > > > > > I tried to use : > > > > > user-domain= > > > > > use-only-domain-name=yes > > > > > > > > > > but with no more success. I checked that my .pinerc doesn't have > > > > > another configuration. > > > > > > > > > > I ask SGI technical support, and they also receive my email with a > > > > > wrong "From:" header. They said that 'From:' is generated by 'pine' > > > > > and not by 'sendmail'. They suggested me to force pine not to generate > > > > > the 'From:' or to force pine to generate a 'From:' header with > > > > > username and domainame by modifying the sources. > > > > > > > > > > Any idea how to do that ? Gildas. > > > > > > > > > > # Gildas PERROT, Associe de recherche # Ecole Polytechnique > > > > > # Institut de Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o > > > > > # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ > > > > > # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # Gildas PERROT, http://www.grbb.polymtl.ca/~perrot/gildas.html > > > > > # Ecole Polytechnique, Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o > > > > > # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ > > > > > # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 30 15:52:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15376; Wed, 30 Aug 95 15:52:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03559; Wed, 30 Aug 95 15:48:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from news.pacifier.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03553; Wed, 30 Aug 95 15:48:28 -0700 Received: from bart by news.pacifier.com with uucp for cac.washington.edu!pine-info (Linux Smail3.1.29.1 #30) id m0snvvw-0009BbC; Wed, 30 Aug 95 15:48 PDT Received: from bart.wfsg.com by bart.wfsg.com id aa00984; 30 Aug 95 15:41 PDT Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 15:41:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Hansen To: Pine Info List Subject: .forward file Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This doesn't exactly fit into the realm of Pine but I'm getting no answers from SCO so I'll ask you people. My MMDF mail handler (Please, no hissing) _seems_ to support a .forward file but SCO offers no documentation for it's use. I pay for tech support but the support department seems to choose to not support the .forward file and suggested some workarounds using .maildelivery (which I DO use.) But I feel like I'd still like to know how and what the .forward file is used for. Maybe some docs (man page) from another UNIX? (Unless restricted, of course) Thanks in advance. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dave Hansen Wilshire Financial Services Group dave@wfsg.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 30 16:27:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17185; Wed, 30 Aug 95 16:27:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04410; Wed, 30 Aug 95 16:26:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04404; Wed, 30 Aug 95 16:26:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snwRH-00038HC; Wed, 30 Aug 95 16:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cmr4@Ra.MsState.Edu (Christopher M Ruffin) Subject: auto-saving messages Date: 30 Aug 1995 17:49:33 -0500 Message-Id: <422ptt$jkj@Ra.MsState.Edu> I liked the way plain ol unix mail saved the messages that you read automagically in ~/mbox. It kept the ones you haven't read in the system mailbox. Can pine do this? C Ruffin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 30 16:28:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17225; Wed, 30 Aug 95 16:28:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10863; Wed, 30 Aug 95 16:26:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10857; Wed, 30 Aug 95 16:25:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snwQS-00038DC; Wed, 30 Aug 95 16:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rahul Dhesi Subject: Re: Bug (ID 3X126): REPOST: From: header not well generated by Pine 3.91 Date: 30 Aug 1995 23:07:40 GMT Message-Id: <422qvs$n7l@bug.rahul.net> References: In gray@cac.washington.edu (Terry Gray) writes: >Because it is entirely correct for the MUA to create the From: header, and >it is entirely incorrect for the MTA to change it! Correctness is a very dangerous goal to pursue. Correctness is not a well-defined property for such things as mail user agents (MUAs). Unlike mathematics, where we can claim that a proof is 'correct', we cannot in general make such an assertion for MUAs. Rather than asking "Is it correct?" for mail software, we should ask, "Does it work?" The latter is an answerable question. The former is meaningless for most mail software and leads to nothing but flame wars. Those who are thinking of RFC-conformance are advised to ask "Does it conform to RFC-xxx?" rather than "Is it correct?" The former is an answerable question. The latter, as emphasized above, leads to nothing but flame wars. Here are two common ways of defining correctness for an MUA. 1. An MUA is 'correct' if it works as expected in its intended environment. 2. An MUA is 'correct' if it behaves in accordance with RFCs chosen as applicable by the software developer. People who use the concept of 'correctness' for mail software seldom specify which definition of correctness they are using. Thus we have arguments at cross-purposes between users (who normally use definition 1) and software developers (who often use definition 2). It might not be easy to satisfiy both criteria at the same time, but one should certainly try. Attempting to satisfy only one of these two defnitions of correctness while ignoring the other is probably unwise. Going back to the quoted text: >Because it is entirely correct for the MUA to create the From: header, and >it is entirely incorrect for the MTA to change it! The RFC I am thinking of -- RFC822 -- does not separately talk about the MUA and MTA. The dividing line between MUA and MTA varies in different environments. No RFC can safely make any assumption about where this dividing line lies. Let's see what RFC822 says: 4.4.1. FROM / RESENT-FROM This field contains the identity of the person(s) who wished this message to be sent. The message-creation process should default this field to be a single, authenticated machine address, indicating the AGENT (person, system or process) entering the message. If this is not done, the "Sender" field MUST be present. If the "From" field IS defaulted this way, the "Sender" field is optional... RFC822 is vague about who creates the From: field. It talks about 'The message-creation process'. It is quite permissible and possible for the MTA to play the rule of MUA, as in the following command given at the UNIX shell prompt: % sendmail mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU please ignore Dhesi ^D The above violates no RFC, because no RFC tells us what the MUA, or MTA, or MUA+MTA combination, looks like. All we can say is that *before* the message is transported, the From: field 'should' exist, and that if the From: field does not exist, then Sender: must exist. So, I would rephrase the quoted text as: 1. It is entirely correct for the MUA and initial MTA, acting as a cooperating entities, to create the From: header. As a corollary, it is entirely correct for the MUA to create a From: header and for the initial MTA to change it, provided both entities act in cooperation and the final result is usable for replies in accordance with RFC822. 2. It is entirely correct for the MUA to create the From: header if it is the intention of the administrators of the specific environment that the MUA do so or be permitted to do so. 3. It is entirely incorrect for an MUA to create a From: header if it is the intention of the administrators of the specific environment that the initial MTA do so and not the MUA. >...there are lots of places where the sendmail config would *not* put in >the correct From: address!) There are probably very few such places, but I'm sure there are some. They would correspond to item 2 above. It would be unwise to assume that all 'places' correspond to item 2. -- Rahul Dhesi "please ignore Dhesi" -- Mark Crispin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 30 18:10:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21311; Wed, 30 Aug 95 18:10:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12758; Wed, 30 Aug 95 18:06:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12752; Wed, 30 Aug 95 18:06:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0snxxb-00038DC; Wed, 30 Aug 95 17:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brobbins@eden.pls.com (Bert Robbins) Subject: Re: the strangest thing I've ever seen Message-Id: <1995Aug30.235429.7597@pls.com> References: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 23:54:29 GMT Timothy J. Luoma (luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu) wrote: : 1) using kermit, I connect to my school (Novell network), I login and : select, 'telnet' to get to my mail account at capitalist.princeton.edu : 2) I begin to read my mail and news through pine. : 3) at some point, usually while composing a message, something happens : (sorry, that's all I can say. Nothing visisble hapens, but obviously : something is happening) and all of a sudden I lose the ability to type. : that's not even the weird part. : Whatever character/key I press, it starts printing out OLD keystrokes : from much earlier in the session (always from the same session). I get : to see everything I typed, all over again, and when it finishes, it just : hangs there like a program in WinDows running on only 8MB RAM and never : comes back. : eventually I get logged out for being inactive (nothing I can input) and : then in 15 minutes (time set by my novell network to punish idle : connectors) I can login again and everything is fine for a few days, : maybe a week. : Sounds to be like some type of buffer is being kept and it is getting : confused and rather than taking input it is giving output, but I don't : really know. : Anyone have a guess as to what's going on? : I'm using a hayes-like modem with flow control. if that helps. I can only think of two things. 1) Use hardware flow control, DSRCTS. 2) Do you have call wiating on your phone line? If you do then you should insert "*70" prior to the number you dial. Bert From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 30 21:00:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25819; Wed, 30 Aug 95 21:00:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14842; Wed, 30 Aug 95 20:56:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14836; Wed, 30 Aug 95 20:56:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0so0bE-00038DC; Wed, 30 Aug 95 20:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: minotaur@union4.su.swin.edu.au (Paul Cowan) Subject: Help Wanted: sigs Date: 31 Aug 1995 02:13:46 GMT Message-Id: <4235sq$5be@lucy.swin.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a quick question, which has probably been asked a million times before, but here goes: Does anyone know of an easy way to randomize the .signature used for each message in UNIX Pine 3.91? Thanks in advance. -- Paul Cowan minotaur@union4.swin.edu.au "Life seems tragic to us only because we're ivolved in it. To the gods, it is just a particularly violent comedy." -- Robert Anton Wilson *The Widow's Son* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 00:12:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00459; Thu, 31 Aug 95 00:12:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12186; Thu, 31 Aug 95 00:08:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12180; Thu, 31 Aug 95 00:08:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0so3h2-00038DC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 00:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mikeshlz@u.washington.edu (Michael Scholz) Subject: Re: PINE for IRIX 4(?) Date: 31 Aug 1995 06:24:39 GMT Message-Id: <423kj7$62b@nntp5.u.washington.edu> References: <41ve8n$uc1@portal.gmu.edu> cac is supposed to have it, but if you have an ftp site you want me to put it on, no prob. -- Michael Scholz (206) 522-0874 University of Washington junior mikeshlz@u.washington.edu Alias | Wavefront intern mike_scholz@alias.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 00:38:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00989; Thu, 31 Aug 95 00:38:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17623; Thu, 31 Aug 95 00:34:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from iris.pef.zcu.cz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17600; Thu, 31 Aug 95 00:33:24 -0700 Received: by iris.pef.zcu.cz id AA08724 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 31 Aug 1995 09:33:19 GMT Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 09:32:48 +0000 (GMT) From: Jiri Toman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: wrong gid (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear gentlemans, using pine3.91 are created queue files with right UID but bad GID (GID= owner's group). Right GID should be GID=mail. Could you advise me. I use SGI(OS iris 5.3) mail server. Thank you. Yours sincerely Toman Jiri ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Jiri Toman e-mail: toman@pef.zcu.cz Department of Computing address: PeF-ZCU and Instructial Technologies Klatovska 51 Faculty of Education 30619 Pilsen University of West Bohemia The Czech Republic tel: +42 19 270253 (Klatovska 51) (+42 19 226536 (Jungmannova 2)) fax: +42 19 276180, +42 19 35522 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 01:27:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02207; Thu, 31 Aug 95 01:27:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13157; Thu, 31 Aug 95 01:21:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13151; Thu, 31 Aug 95 01:20:45 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 31 Aug 1995 09:19:51 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA17631; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 09:20:36 +0100 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 09:20:36 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Jiri Toman Cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: wrong gid (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine doesn't actually enter the message into the spool area (/var/spool/mqueue on IRIX), but instead simply pipes it into sendmail. So there might be a problem with your sendmail protection. Can you do an: ls -l /usr/lib/sendmail It should look something like this I think: -rwsr-xr-x 1 root sys 297016 Jun 14 10:22 /usr/lib/sendmail Note the "rws" at the start of the protections. This gives sendmail "set uid" mode: it can perform operations as if it were running as the uid who owns the file (root in this case). Also check that sendmail is owned by "root" and gorpu "sys". If these are incorrect you will need to get a Systems Guru to fix them as it requires the special privileges of the root username. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 31 Aug 1995, Jiri Toman wrote: > Dear gentlemans, > using pine3.91 are created queue files with right UID but bad GID (GID= > owner's group). Right GID should be GID=mail. > Could you advise me. I use SGI(OS iris 5.3) mail server. > Thank you. > Yours sincerely Toman Jiri > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Ing. Jiri Toman e-mail: toman@pef.zcu.cz > Department of Computing address: PeF-ZCU > and Instructial Technologies Klatovska 51 > Faculty of Education 30619 Pilsen > University of West Bohemia The Czech Republic > tel: +42 19 270253 (Klatovska 51) > (+42 19 226536 (Jungmannova 2)) > fax: +42 19 276180, +42 19 35522 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 01:27:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02209; Thu, 31 Aug 95 01:27:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18196; Thu, 31 Aug 95 01:23:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18190; Thu, 31 Aug 95 01:23:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0so4t2-00038DC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 01:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cdh@worf.MR.Net (Chris D. Halverson) Subject: Re: .forward file Date: 30 Aug 1995 21:02:08 -0500 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: dave@wfsg.com's message of 30 Aug 1995 15:53:03 -0700 >>>>> "Dave" == Dave Hansen writes: In article dave@wfsg.com (Dave Hansen) writes: Dave> My MMDF mail handler (Please, no hissing) _seems_ to support a Dave> .forward file but SCO offers no documentation for it's use. I Dave> pay for tech support but the support department seems to choose Dave> to not support the .forward file and suggested some workarounds Dave> using .maildelivery (which I DO use.) But I feel like I'd Dave> still like to know how and what the .forward file is used for. Dave> Maybe some docs (man page) from another UNIX? (Unless Dave> restricted, of course) Basically a forward file is used to (surprise) forward mail to another account. It usually contains an email address, to which the MDA will forward the mail to. Alternately, a .forward file can be used to call an external program, such as procmail such as: "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/local/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #cdh" >From aliases(4) on a Solaris 2.4 machine: Automatic Forwarding When an alias (or address) is resolved to the name of a user on the local host, sendmail(1M) checks for a ~/.forward file, owned by the intended recipient, in that user's home directory, and with universal read access. This file can contain one or more addresses or aliases as described above, each of which is sent a copy of the user's mail. Care must be taken to avoid creating addressing loops in the ~/.forward file. When forwarding mail between machines, be sure that the destination machine does not return the mail to the sender through the operation of any YP aliases. Oth- erwise, copies of the message may ``bounce.'' Usually, the solution is to change the YP alias to direct mail to the proper destination. A backslash before a username inhibits further aliasing. For instance, to invoke the vacation program, user js creates a ~/.forward file that contains the line: \js, "|/usr/ucb/vacation js" so that one copy of the message is sent to the user, and another is piped into the vacation program. Hope this helps. Chris -- Chris D. Halverson | Network Engineer Minnesota Regional Network | Voice: (612) 342-2838 511 11th Avenue South, Box 212 | Email: cdh@MR.Net Minneapolis, MN 55415 | WWW: http://www.MR.Net/~cdh/ PGP signed/encrypted mail accepted, finger for PGP public key From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 05:58:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08252; Thu, 31 Aug 95 05:58:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16708; Thu, 31 Aug 95 05:43:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16702; Thu, 31 Aug 95 05:43:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0so8yD-00038DC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 05:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: auto-saving messages Date: 31 Aug 1995 07:11:17 -0500 Message-Id: <9508311214.AA27371@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> References: <422ptt$jkj@Ra.MsState.Edu> In article <422ptt$jkj@Ra.MsState.Edu>, you (Christopher M Ruffin) write: |> |> I liked the way plain ol unix mail saved the messages that you read |> automagically in ~/mbox. It kept the ones you haven't read in the |> system mailbox. Can pine do this? I am not sure I liked the way /usr/ucb/mail does this (actually I do not like /usr/ucb/mail at all), but you can customize pine to do something similar. Here we arrange as a default that all messages in the user inbox are moved to a default user's place if not moved elsewhere (this is to avoid the inbox on a spool filesystem with limited space get cluttered). I personally disabled this feature, since I'm keeping my inbox "ordered" (I like to archive all read mails by project, or delete useless ones, but keep in inbox those which are "in evidence"). Look at your .pinerc or pine.conf file, I see that mine has no-auto-move-read-msgs in the feature list, while our system default has auto-move-read-msgs. Also I keep read-message-folder equated to "" (the null string) while the system default has a filename there. Pine Technical Doc should explain all about this. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 06:50:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09462; Thu, 31 Aug 95 06:50:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17600; Thu, 31 Aug 95 06:44:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17594; Thu, 31 Aug 95 06:44:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0so9tk-00038RC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 06:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ken Shaffer Subject: pine not using full screen? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 13:09:15 GMT Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Here's a weird problem I'm having: Pine is not using the full screen available though LINES and TERM set correctly. Details: I use my computer at home to log in to a mainframe at work which contains the pine executable. My comm software is emulating a vt100 using 42 lines. I log in, set TERM=vt100, export it, set LINES=42, export it. I suppose by now you realize the mainframe is running unix. "vi" works like a charm, so therefore I'm convinced it's not the emulator, or mainframe settings. Also "less" also works correctly with these settings. Any help is greatly appreciated. -- Ken Shaffer (kshaffer@encore.com) Encore Computer Corporation (305) 587-2900, ext. 5053 FAX: (305) 797-5807 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 06:51:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09494; Thu, 31 Aug 95 06:51:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21547; Thu, 31 Aug 95 06:44:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21541; Thu, 31 Aug 95 06:44:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0so9tk-00038QC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 06:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: seeing all headers when posting mail Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 09:29:51 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: | several people told me that I can simply edit the header fields when | composing a mail message which is also a post. | can anyone explain to me how I do this? I only see the newsgroup, | attachment and Subject lines. Place the cursor anywhere in the header and press Ctrl-R for "rich headers." This will display all headers you (or Pine by default) have defined. You may then edit to your heart's content. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 07:57:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11684; Thu, 31 Aug 95 07:57:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18791; Thu, 31 Aug 95 07:52:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18785; Thu, 31 Aug 95 07:52:52 -0700 Received: from zodiac.unl.ac.uk by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02249; Thu, 31 Aug 95 07:52:49 -0700 Received: by zodiac.unl.ac.uk (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA12272; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 15:54:11 +0100 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 15:54:11 +0100 From: cwf@zodiac.unl.ac.uk (Clifford) Message-Id: <9508311454.AA12272@zodiac.unl.ac.uk> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: message shrank We have an IMAP server on a VAX (VMS). I connect using pine from a SUN box (solaris 2.4). When I try to save a message (to a local folder) as like as not I get [Message to save shrank! (#msgno: n_bytes --> n1_bytes)] And nothing is saved. Fingles law applies. It doesn't happen every time, only when its really important. Any ideas/fixes? Clifford W Fulford University of North London CLMS-UNIX development E-mail: Clifford@zodiac.unl.ac.uk Clifford@compulink.co.uk C.Fulford@unl.ac.uk Telephone: 0171-607-2789 x 7314. Home 0181-986-5239 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 08:24:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12925; Thu, 31 Aug 95 08:24:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23032; Thu, 31 Aug 95 08:15:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23025; Thu, 31 Aug 95 08:15:13 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 31 Aug 95 23:12:45 +0800 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 23:12:44 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Christopher M Ruffin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: auto-saving messages In-Reply-To: <422ptt$jkj@Ra.MsState.Edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 30 Aug 1995, Christopher M Ruffin wrote: > I liked the way plain ol unix mail saved the messages that you read > automagically in ~/mbox. It kept the ones you haven't read in the > system mailbox. Can pine do this? Once again going to the config screens and reading the *help* available will reveal amazing things...... OPTION: Read-Message-Folder By virtue of specifying a folder name here, Pine will be configured to save all messages which you have read during a session into the designated "read messages" folder. This allows you to more easily distinguish between your really new email (in your INBOX) and those which you have already read. Depending on how you define the "auto-move-read-messages" setting in the "feature-list", you may or may not be asked when you quit Pine if you want read messages to be moved to this folder. In either case, moving the messages means they will be deleted from your INBOX. Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 08:48:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14142; Thu, 31 Aug 95 08:48:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20086; Thu, 31 Aug 95 08:43:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20080; Thu, 31 Aug 95 08:43:40 -0700 Received: by watsun.cc.columbia.edu id AA13827 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 31 Aug 1995 11:43:32 -0400 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 95 11:43:26 EDT From: Joe Brennan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: message shrank In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 31 Aug 1995 15:54:11 +0100 Message-Id: > [Message to save shrank! (#msgno: n_bytes --> n1_bytes)] > > And nothing is saved. > > Fingles law applies. It doesn't happen every time, only when its really > important. > Any ideas/fixes? When we see it (rarely), the message has control-M characters in it. Now that I noticed this, I've verified it every time, maybe 5 times. The messages originate on PCs and get inserted with both control-J and control-M at end of line, non-unix-style. Try replacing the control-M's with something else by editing mbox. Careful, if you use mtext format, to do a one-for-one replacement of the characters; sed might be good. For mbox format, just delete them. Comments from the pine team would be welcome of course. Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York brennan@columbia.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 08:53:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14384; Thu, 31 Aug 95 08:53:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20233; Thu, 31 Aug 95 08:49:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20227; Thu, 31 Aug 95 08:49:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soBoT-00038HC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 08:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pmiller@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Patrick Miller) Subject: UNIX Pine printing through ANSI_PRINTER attached to vt100 terminal Date: 31 Aug 1995 08:46:28 -0600 Message-Id: <424i04$4ug@nyx10.cs.du.edu> Can someone pull out the code which sends the print command to the printer... I am wanting to compile it as a standalone program... I don't have enough of a quota to view the HUGE pine source files (even in tmp) thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 08:53:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14418; Thu, 31 Aug 95 08:53:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23827; Thu, 31 Aug 95 08:49:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23821; Thu, 31 Aug 95 08:49:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soBoQ-00038DC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 08:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ambrose@ix.netcom.com Subject: pico problems with help and directories Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 14:53:46 GMT Message-Id: <424i7u$1lm@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> There's a problem when you press ^G. The help is only printed on the top line of the page. How do I get pico to use a person home directory when you go to files instead of the root? I'm looking for a file and I press on a directory. I press 'Y' to enter and pico says 'File not found: "directoryname". It works if I do it again. I pressed parent directory once and pico didn't go there. How do I change the directory to the root? "/" didn't work. Thanks. Tony ambrose@ix.netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 09:05:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15310; Thu, 31 Aug 95 09:05:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24031; Thu, 31 Aug 95 08:59:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24025; Thu, 31 Aug 95 08:59:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soC1H-00038DC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 08:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Delgado Subject: Re: building PINE on DG AV9500 Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 10:28:22 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 22 Aug 1995, Brian P. Hampson wrote: > > > Has anyone successfully built Pine on a DB AV9500? I first had problems > > with the utime work-around, "fixed" it but now when I use "R"eply, I core > > dumps: any ideas?! > > You should be able to "build d-g" I did do that, that's how I was able to get a core dump via running pine. Actually, I had to add an include () to c-client/os_d-g.h to get the thing to compile. At any rate, the point I'm at is I have pine, pico, imapd and mtest all compiled but I'm getting the mentioned error. any ideas? -- Dave From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 09:45:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17035; Thu, 31 Aug 95 09:45:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24960; Thu, 31 Aug 95 09:37:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24948; Thu, 31 Aug 95 09:37:45 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 31 Aug 1995 17:36:18 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id RAA13979; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 17:36:42 +0100 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 17:36:42 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Patrick Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: UNIX Pine printing through ANSI_PRINTER attached to vt100 terminal In-Reply-To: <424i04$4ug@nyx10.cs.du.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Assuming you have the Pine 3.91 source distribution anywhere you will find the program you require already written (it is VERY simple!) in: contrib/utils/ansiprt.c If you have the compressed tar archive but don't have the quota to unpack it all you can unpack just this one file using a command something like this: zcat pine3.91.tar.Z | tar xvf - pine3.91/contrib/utils/ansiprt.c You may have to play around to get it exactly right; I'm at the end of the day here and tiredly heading home! Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 31 Aug 1995, Patrick Miller wrote: > > Can someone pull out the code which sends the print command to the > printer... I am wanting to compile it as a standalone program... > > > I don't have enough of a quota to view the HUGE pine source files (even in > tmp) > > > thanks > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 10:10:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18299; Thu, 31 Aug 95 10:10:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22091; Thu, 31 Aug 95 10:04:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22083; Thu, 31 Aug 95 10:04:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soCzM-00038DC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 10:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eks@vki68.aar-vki.dk (Eigil Krogh Sorensen) Subject: Problem: Pine opens ProgramManager on Quit Date: 31 Aug 1995 16:11:12 GMT Message-Id: <424mv0$iie@krone.daimi.aau.dk> When I Quit pine it opens the Windows Program Manager. I don't want that. What can I do to avoid it ? Thanks in advance -- Eigil Krogh Sorensen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- VKI ! ! Water Quality Institute !Phone: !E-mail: Science Park Aarhus ! +45 86 20 20 00 or ! 10, Gustav Wieds Vej ! +45 86 20 20 11 local 2114 ! eks@aar-vki.dk DK-8000 Aarhus C !Fax: ! DENMARK. ! +45 86 19 75 11 ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 10:24:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18749; Thu, 31 Aug 95 10:24:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25880; Thu, 31 Aug 95 10:19:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25872; Thu, 31 Aug 95 10:19:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soDEw-00038DC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 10:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Reinhard Philipp Subject: Help with compiling pine on SGI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <1995Aug31.133302.9314@rhrk.uni-kl.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 13:33:02 GMT As I tried to compile pine on an SGI Indy arunning IRIX 5.3 by saying "build sgi", I got the following Error Messages: ld: Unresolved: fatal *** Error code 1 (bu21) *** Error code 1 (bu21) *** Error code 1 (bu21) *** Error code 1 (bu21) Has anyone ever built pine on SGI and/or encountered a similar problem? If necessary, I can send the full compiler output. Thanks in advance Reinhard -- Reinhard Philipp \ Telefon +49-631-205-2968 Fachbereich Chemie \ Fax +49-631-205-3419 Universitaet Kaiserslautern \ Telex 45 627 unikl d D-67653 Kaiserslautern (Germany) \ E-Mail philipp@chemie.uni-kl.de From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 11:08:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20511; Thu, 31 Aug 95 11:08:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26690; Thu, 31 Aug 95 11:03:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26684; Thu, 31 Aug 95 11:03:57 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25246; Thu, 31 Aug 95 11:03:48 -0700 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 11:03:43 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Ken Shaffer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine not using full screen? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I haven't seen the Encore port of Pine, but most Unix ports of Pine consult the terminal device directly via an ioctl and don't consult environment variables. If you can't do an "stty rows xx" on your system, you should ask whomever did the Encore port to make the necessary changes... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 31 Aug 1995, Ken Shaffer wrote: > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 13:09:15 GMT > From: Ken Shaffer > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: pine not using full screen? > > Here's a weird problem I'm having: > > Pine is not using the full screen available though LINES and TERM set > correctly. > > Details: > > I use my computer at home to log in to a mainframe at work which contains > the pine executable. My comm software is emulating a vt100 using 42 lines. > I log in, set TERM=vt100, export it, set LINES=42, export it. I suppose > by now you realize the mainframe is running unix. "vi" works like a charm, > so therefore I'm convinced it's not the emulator, or mainframe settings. > Also "less" also works correctly with these settings. > > Any help is greatly appreciated. > > -- > Ken Shaffer (kshaffer@encore.com) > Encore Computer Corporation > (305) 587-2900, ext. 5053 > FAX: (305) 797-5807 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 11:30:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21402; Thu, 31 Aug 95 11:30:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23840; Thu, 31 Aug 95 11:24:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23834; Thu, 31 Aug 95 11:24:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soEHY-00038HC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 11:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roxendal@sunrise.alpinet.net (Bjorn Roxendal) Subject: Slowdown Date: 31 Aug 1995 12:43:36 -0500 Message-Id: It seems that Sending Mail (regular Email) is very slow since I started to use Pine for Newsgroups. Any solutions to this? Perhaps using a separate newsreader (my provider doesn't have anything else installed, though). Bjorn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 11:46:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22011; Thu, 31 Aug 95 11:46:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24250; Thu, 31 Aug 95 11:42:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24243; Thu, 31 Aug 95 11:42:30 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27145; Thu, 31 Aug 95 11:42:17 -0700 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 11:42:11 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Bjorn Roxendal Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Slowdown In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Bjorn, Simply having Pine configured to access newsgroups should not affect the speed of sending mail. Is it possible that your system is more heavily loaded than before? Sometimes a relatively small increase in system load can have a dramatic effect on performance... Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 31 Aug 1995, Bjorn Roxendal wrote: > Date: 31 Aug 1995 12:43:36 -0500 > From: Bjorn Roxendal > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Slowdown > > It seems that Sending Mail (regular Email) is very slow since I started > to use Pine for Newsgroups. Any solutions to this? Perhaps using a > separate newsreader (my provider doesn't have anything else installed, > though). > > Bjorn > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 13:49:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27554; Thu, 31 Aug 95 13:49:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29813; Thu, 31 Aug 95 13:44:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29806; Thu, 31 Aug 95 13:44:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soGR7-00038DC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 13:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lemson@penguin.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Subject: locking Date: 31 Aug 1995 20:16:38 GMT Message-Id: <4255b6$75p@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> I'm having a severe locking problem with Pine. Our mail spool directories are NFS mounted to 3 clients: Solaris 2.4 and AIX 4.1 machines. Whenever anyone runs pine on a client, it creates a .lock file and the Pine session hangs. It says "Opening INBOX" and the .lock file has the current time as a timestamp. Can anyone point me in the right direction? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 14:25:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28993; Thu, 31 Aug 95 14:25:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27593; Thu, 31 Aug 95 14:16:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27587; Thu, 31 Aug 95 14:16:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soGvW-00038VC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 14:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lemson@penguin.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) Subject: Pine on Solaris Date: 31 Aug 1995 20:54:35 GMT Message-Id: <4257ib$c5a@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> What's the official "best way" to compile Pine 3.91 on Solaris? For some reason (I am not sure why, it has been so long), I have been using gcc. What do other people use? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 15:23:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01533; Thu, 31 Aug 95 15:23:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01731; Thu, 31 Aug 95 15:19:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01725; Thu, 31 Aug 95 15:19:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soHug-00038DC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 15:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fwatkins@hyperlogic.com (Fred A Watkins) Subject: Re: Base64 decoder ??? Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 22:53:46 GMT Message-Id: <4205rh$efg@watt.electriciti.com> References: krok@nostromo.fact.rhein-ruhr.de (Matthias Krok) wrote: >Hi ! >Can anyone mail me the ftp-path to a unix-source for a decoder that decodes >the base64-format ? doesn't need to be a complete program, just a code, that >I can compiler under Linux. A DOS executable would also be good. I'd like to know the answer to this also. Please post. Fred fwatkins@hyperlogic.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 15:33:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02050; Thu, 31 Aug 95 15:33:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01910; Thu, 31 Aug 95 15:30:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01904; Thu, 31 Aug 95 15:30:32 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04632; Thu, 31 Aug 95 15:30:30 -0700 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 15:30:27 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Fred A Watkins Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Base64 decoder ??? In-Reply-To: <4205rh$efg@watt.electriciti.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/mpack/ |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 29 Aug 1995, Fred A Watkins wrote: > Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 22:53:46 GMT > From: Fred A Watkins > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Base64 decoder ??? > > krok@nostromo.fact.rhein-ruhr.de (Matthias Krok) wrote: > > >Hi ! > > >Can anyone mail me the ftp-path to a unix-source for a decoder that decodes > >the base64-format ? doesn't need to be a complete program, just a code, that > >I can compiler under Linux. A DOS executable would also be good. > > I'd like to know the answer to this also. Please post. > > Fred > fwatkins@hyperlogic.com > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 16:23:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03973; Thu, 31 Aug 95 16:23:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00442; Thu, 31 Aug 95 16:20:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00436; Thu, 31 Aug 95 16:20:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soIpA-00038DC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 16:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Abraham Gutman Subject: Multiple Fcc's Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 18:18:54 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Although at times it may be a waste of disk space, I would like the ability to have multiple Fcc's for a single message. I can't get 3.91 to accept it. Is there a way? Thanks, Abraham From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 16:31:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04404; Thu, 31 Aug 95 16:31:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02957; Thu, 31 Aug 95 16:30:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02951; Thu, 31 Aug 95 16:30:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soJ0K-00038DC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 16:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ajay@unison.com (Ajay Lunawat) Subject: Re: BINHEX decoding??? Message-Id: <1995Aug23.163959.2797@unison.com> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 16:39:59 GMT References: <41d83l$d35@nic-nac.CSU.net> In article <41d83l$d35@nic-nac.CSU.net>, dlegate@rsa.csuhayward.edu (Dan LeGate) writes: |> Those of you who use a BinHex decoder for unix, what decoder are you |> using? Are there different kinds? If there are different BinHex |> formats, do they handle all those formats? I assume once you install |> your decoder, in a mailer like pine, you simply (V)iew the attachment |> then (|)Pipe it to the decoder. Is that right? Thanks for any help or |> information you can provide. |> I am actually looking for BinHex decoder. Could you tell me if ther is any free available? I would also like to get information how to integrate with my mail reader. I currenty use mailtoo. Thanks for all your help. Ajay |> Dan LeGate From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 19:23:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11461; Thu, 31 Aug 95 19:23:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05806; Thu, 31 Aug 95 19:19:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05800; Thu, 31 Aug 95 19:19:41 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA09228 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 22:19:39 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id WAA16910 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 22:19:39 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA19862; Thu, 31 Aug 95 22:18:19 EDT Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 22:18:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: UCSD POC? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've seen some postings from someone apparently involved with PINE administration at UCSD on this list. If you see this message, would you please contact me via email. I have a contact at UCSD who may be in need of PINE. Thanks Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 20:39:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13417; Thu, 31 Aug 95 20:39:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05091; Thu, 31 Aug 95 20:35:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05085; Thu, 31 Aug 95 20:35:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soMpI-00038CC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 20:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ray McAllister Subject: Printing from PINE? Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 19:31:48 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, I set my pine setup to allow printing from pine using the first choice "Printing with ASCII" or some such. The Shift Y seems to start the process but no printing results. Can someone p[lease tell me what I have done wrong? TIA Ray McAllister, Prof (Emeritus) Ocean Eng., FAU, Boca Raton, FL 33064 Diving Dinosaur, Geologist/Oceanographer/Ocean Engineer, 43 years SCUBA mcallist@gate.net (305) 426-0808, Author Diving Locations, Boynton/Dania From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 21:08:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14078; Thu, 31 Aug 95 21:08:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07086; Thu, 31 Aug 95 21:05:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07080; Thu, 31 Aug 95 21:05:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soNI4-00038CC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 21:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chrisl@www.tcet.unt.edu (Chris Lambright) Subject: Mail loops back...why? Date: 1 Sep 1995 01:28:23 GMT Message-Id: <425njn$pln@hermes.acs.unt.edu> -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= chrisl@www.tcet.unt.edu "Onward through the fog!!" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=>*<*>*<=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 21:19:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14282; Thu, 31 Aug 95 21:19:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05730; Thu, 31 Aug 95 21:15:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05724; Thu, 31 Aug 95 21:15:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soNS8-00038CC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 21:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rfr1@ix.netcom.com (Rich Ruggiero) Subject: Connecting to Pine Date: 1 Sep 1995 01:24:54 GMT Message-Id: <425nd6$8mu@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> I have a UNix pine account that I access through a termserver at my company. I would like to connect over the internet with a client such as Pc-pine. I am using netcom as the ISP provider. Necruiser is capable of running winsock clients, but I can't seem to get PC-PIne to operate. If anyone can help, it would be most appreciated. Thanks Rich From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 21:19:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14315; Thu, 31 Aug 95 21:19:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07220; Thu, 31 Aug 95 21:15:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07214; Thu, 31 Aug 95 21:15:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soNS8-00038DC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 21:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rfr1@ix.netcom.com (Rich Ruggiero) Subject: Offline reader for pine Date: 1 Sep 1995 01:25:49 GMT Message-Id: <425net$aka@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Does anyone know if an off line mail reader exists for pine? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 21:24:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14428; Thu, 31 Aug 95 21:24:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05818; Thu, 31 Aug 95 21:20:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05812; Thu, 31 Aug 95 21:20:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soNYO-00038CC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 21:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: solf@dns.city-net.com (Robert Solfanelli) Subject: Automatic replies? Date: 1 Sep 1995 03:50:49 GMT Message-Id: <425vup$4kh@dns.city-net.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Would someone please tell me if there is a way to configure Pine to automatically reply to all incoming messages? I will be changing email addresses and would like to have Pine automatically notify everyone who emails me. Also, does Pine have a built in forwarding configuration that I can activate? Please reply directly to me if possible, or to this group otherwise. Thanks. -Bob solf@dns.city-net.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 21:42:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14857; Thu, 31 Aug 95 21:42:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07485; Thu, 31 Aug 95 21:40:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07479; Thu, 31 Aug 95 21:40:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soNtM-00038CC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 21:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mabzug1@umbc.edu (Mordechai T. Abzug) Subject: Re: UNIX Pine printing through ANSI_PRINTER attached to vt100 terminal Date: 1 Sep 1995 04:00:42 GMT Message-Id: <4260ha$eoi@news.umbc.edu> References: <424i04$4ug@nyx10.cs.du.edu> Patrick Miller (pmiller@nyx10.cs.du.edu) wrote: : Can someone pull out the code which sends the print command to the : printer... I am wanting to compile it as a standalone program... I know what you mean; did something similar. You might want to generalize it and include many ANSI codes, since lots are useful. Printer-on is "\033[5i", ie, ESC followed by left-bracket followed by 5i. Printer-off is "\033[4i". -- -Mordechai T. Abzug Homepage: http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mabzug1 send email to: mabzug1@umbc.edu Spell chequers dew knot work write. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 22:04:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15426; Thu, 31 Aug 95 22:04:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06412; Thu, 31 Aug 95 22:00:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06406; Thu, 31 Aug 95 22:00:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soOBp-00038HC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 21:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: locking Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 20:26:50 -0700 Message-Id: References: <4255b6$75p@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4255b6$75p@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> On 31 Aug 1995, David Lemson wrote: > I'm having a severe locking problem with Pine. Our mail spool > directories are NFS mounted to 3 clients: Solaris 2.4 and AIX 4.1 > machines. Whenever anyone runs pine on a client, it creates a > .lock file and the Pine session hangs. It says "Opening > INBOX" and the .lock file has the current time as a timestamp. > Can anyone point me in the right direction? Almost certainly, the problem is not the lock files, but rather the infamous lockd/statd daemons which are invoked by fcntl() locking. It is not a Pine bug; rather, Pine NFS access on SVR4 tickles an operating system bug. Scream at SUN and IBM for providing broken software. I am responding to your similar bug report to pine@cac.washington.edu under separate cover, and will include a documentation file which describes the locking problem. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 22:04:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15437; Thu, 31 Aug 95 22:04:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06404; Thu, 31 Aug 95 22:00:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06398; Thu, 31 Aug 95 22:00:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soOBo-00038CC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 21:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tomc@pinn.net (Tom Cole) Subject: exporting a message/w gif BACK INTO pine Date: 1 Sep 1995 03:13:41 GMT Message-Id: <425tp5$l9r@everest.pinn.net> Hello, I may not be looking too far ahead into this but, I kept (exported) a email message with a gif attachment which went into the home directory by default. Am using PINE 3.91. I did not bother to separate out the gif beforehand ;'( And naturally, looking at it online or downloading it you see what just pertains to the text message. My ? ---- Short of bringing it back in as an attachment and possibly resending it back to moi', what can be done to parse the gif from the text? Or is that the only way? TIA, Thomas S. Cole "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" INTERNET ADDRESS: tomc@pinn.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 22:05:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15465; Thu, 31 Aug 95 22:05:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07740; Thu, 31 Aug 95 22:00:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07732; Thu, 31 Aug 95 22:00:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soOBo-00038DC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 21:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: message shrank Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 20:21:43 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Yes, this is a known bug that will be fixed in Pine 3.92. If you substitute the imap-3.5 toolkit with the imap-3.6.BETA toolkit and rebuild Pine and imapd you'll get the fix; otherwise just wait until Pine 3.92 comes out. The bug is that the calculation of the "RFC 822 size" (the size of the message in RFC 822 format using CR LF newlines) was a guesstimate (Unix size + # of newlines) in the older version, and the calculation didn't do the right thing with CR LF newlines. The newer version handles CR LF newlines that are already in the message, and doesn't count them twice. The question is; how did those CR's get in the file, since sendmail is supposed to suppress them. Was NFS used from the PC? On 31 Aug 1995, Joe Brennan wrote: > > [Message to save shrank! (#msgno: n_bytes --> n1_bytes)] > > > > And nothing is saved. > > > > Fingles law applies. It doesn't happen every time, only when its really > > important. > > Any ideas/fixes? > > > When we see it (rarely), the message has control-M characters in it. > Now that I noticed this, I've verified it every time, maybe 5 times. > The messages originate on PCs and get inserted with both control-J and > control-M at end of line, non-unix-style. > > Try replacing the control-M's with something else by editing mbox. > Careful, if you use mtext format, to do a one-for-one replacement of > the characters; sed might be good. For mbox format, just delete them. > > Comments from the pine team would be welcome of course. > > Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems > Columbia University in the City of New York > brennan@columbia.edu > > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 22:40:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16608; Thu, 31 Aug 95 22:40:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08288; Thu, 31 Aug 95 22:35:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08282; Thu, 31 Aug 95 22:35:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soOhY-00038CC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 22:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rchauhan@mcs.csuhayward.edu (DARSHANA) Subject: HELP: Vacation EMAIL?? Date: 31 Aug 1995 20:00:24 -0700 Message-Id: <425t08$pg8@lizzy.mcs.csuhayward.edu> Hello everyone, I would like to know how to set up pine to send out vacation email automatically when you receive an email. thanks, and please send responses to rchauhan@mcs.csuhayward.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 22:54:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16910; Thu, 31 Aug 95 22:54:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07305; Thu, 31 Aug 95 22:50:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07299; Thu, 31 Aug 95 22:50:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soOw8-00038CC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 22:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine on Solaris Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 21:07:14 -0700 Message-Id: References: <4257ib$c5a@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4257ib$c5a@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> On 31 Aug 1995, David Lemson wrote: > What's the official "best way" to compile Pine 3.91 on Solaris? For > some reason (I am not sure why, it has been so long), I have been > using gcc. What do other people use? The official way is with SUN's compiler, and that is what the sol part is designed for. As many people have noticed, the sol port does not build using gcc without substantial modification. About 90% of the sol port are specific details for the native Solaris compiler, only about 10% is for the Solaris operating system. However, there *will* be a gso (GNU Solaris) port, either in Pine 3.92 or a future version, and this will become the recommended and supported version. We too have grown weary of SUN's shenanigans with its C compiler, and may drop support for the native Solaris compiler entirely (in other words, *require* gcc). -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 31 23:23:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17438; Thu, 31 Aug 95 23:23:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08753; Thu, 31 Aug 95 23:21:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08747; Thu, 31 Aug 95 23:20:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0soPQR-00038CC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 23:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Help Wanted: sigs Date: 1 Sep 1995 05:30:06 GMT Message-Id: <4265ou$qm7@grape.epix.net> References: <4235sq$5be@lucy.swin.edu.au> Paul Cowan (minotaur@union4.su.swin.edu.au) wrote: : Just a quick question, which has probably been asked a million times : before, but here goes: : Does anyone know of an easy way to randomize the .signature used for each : message in UNIX Pine 3.91? : Paul Cowan minotaur@union4.swin.edu.au Nope ... cannot be done ... but here's a workaround ... make filenames sig1 sig2 sig3 sigpaul sigsex sigmino ... whatever ... then ^R it in after yer' message ... G'Day ... here comes filename ds3 (that's Dad's 3-line signature) ... Tallyho ! /\ /~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____